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TODAY IS TUESDAY, MAY 7TH, 2024.
[1. CALL TO ORDER NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this regular meeting, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for discussion and consultation with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]
THIS IS THE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING.I AM CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND GIVING NOTICE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT AT THIS REGULAR MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY'S ATTORNEYS FOR LEGAL ADVICE ON ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA.
CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL? COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I WOULD. PLEASE STAND IF YOU'RE ABLE.
COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE, OUR MISSION STATEMENT.
THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR, OUR LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
THESE LANDS, STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS, BORDER MOUNTAINS SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.
WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.
WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE AS HOME.
THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC.
[4. OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC Open Call to the Public enables the public to address the Council about an item that is not on the prepared agenda. Comments relating to items that are on the agenda will be taken at the time that the item is discussed. Open Call to the Public appears on the agenda twice, at the beginning and at the end. The total time allotted for the first Open Call to the Public is 30 minutes; any additional comments will be held until the second Open Call to the Public. If you wish to address the Council in person at today's meeting, please complete a comment card and submit it to the recording clerk as soon as possible. Your name will be called when it is your turn to speak. You may address the Council up to three times throughout the meeting, including comments made during Open Call to the Public and Public Comment. Please limit your remarks to three minutes per item to allow everyone an opportunity to speak. At the discretion of the Chair, ten or more persons present at the meeting and wishing to speak may appoint a representative who may have no more than fifteen minutes to speak.]
THIS ENABLES THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ABOUT AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE PREPARED AGENDA.OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC APPEARS ON THE AGENDA TWICE AT THE BEGINNING AND AT THE END.
THE TOTAL TIME ALLOTTED FOR THE FIRST OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC IS 30 MINUTES.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS WILL BE HELD UNTIL THE SECOND OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC.
YOUR NAME WILL BE CALLED WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN TO SPEAK.
YOU MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL UP TO THREE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE MEETING.
ALL RIGHT. THANKS A LOT, MAYOR DAGGETT, VICE MAYOR AUSTIN ASLAN, CITY COUNCIL, STAFF, THE CROWD WELCOMED CITIZENS. I JUST WANTED TO READ A PASSAGE FROM MY FAVORITE BOOK, THE CONSTITUTION.
I'VE READ IT BEFORE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL REMINDED OF IT.
CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF, OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, OR OF THE PRESS, OR THE RIGHT TO PEOPLE PEACEFULLY, TO ASSEMBLE AND TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR A REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES, AND I'M HERE TO READ A STORY OF A MAN WHO VIOLATED THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND WANTED TO ESTABLISH A THEOCRACY IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE RELIGION HE FOUNDED IS FOLLOWED BY THE PRESENT DAY BY MILLIONS OF GLOBAL ADHERENTS AND SEVERAL CHURCHES, THE LARGEST OF WHICH IS THE CHURCH OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, THE LDS CHURCH. BORN IN SHARON, VERMONT ON DECEMBER 23RD, 1805, SMITH REPORTED EXPERIENCING A SERIES OF VISIONS.
IN 1823, HE SAID HE WAS VISITED BY AN ANGEL, MORONI, WHO DIRECTED HIM TO A BURIED BOOK OF GOLDEN PLATES INSCRIBED WITH A JUDEO-CHRISTIAN HISTORY OF AN ANCIENT AMERICAN CIVILIZATION.
MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH WERE LATER CALLED LATTER DAY SAINTS OR MORMONS.
SMITH AND HIS FOLLOWERS ESTABLISHED A NEW [INAUDIBLE] IN NAUVOO, ILLINOIS, OF WHICH HE WAS THE SPIRITUAL AND POLITICAL LEADER IN 1844, WHEN THE NAUVOO EXPOSITOR, IT'S LIKE A NEWSPAPER, CRITICIZED SMITH'S POWER TO CREATE A THEOCRACY AND HIS PRACTICE OF POLYGAMY, SMITH AND THE NAUVOO CITY COUNC IL ORDERED THE DESTRUCTION OF ITS PRINTING PRESS, INFLAMING ANTI-MORMON SENTIMENT.
HIS LAST WORDS WERE A FREEMASON'S DISTRESS SIGNAL.
IN THE WORDS OF KANYE WEST, NO ONE MAN SHOULD HAVE ALL THAT POWER.
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THOMAS JEFFERSON, MY FAVORITE PRESIDENT, PEACE BE UNTO HIM, STATED ERECTING THE WALL OF SEPARATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL TO A FREE SOCIETY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.STARDUST MATTER, AND I JUST WANT TO PLUG A SMALL BUSINESS.
I'LL BE EATING AT THE HAWAIIAN BARBECUE RESTAURANT AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK, WE CAN GO THERE, AND I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS $2 BILL.
I WOULD PASS IT AROUND, BUT I KNOW YOU GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS MIGHT TAKE IT.
JUST KIDDING, BUT HAVE A GOOD DAY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEMBERS, MAYOR STAFF.
I JUST WANT TO COME EXPRESS SOME GRATITUDE.
FIRST OFF, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
YOU'RE HERE EVERY WEEK MAKING BIG DECISIONS FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
I'D LIKE TO THANK STAFF AND WHOEVER IT WAS THAT WORKED ON GETTING THE FUNDING FOR THE GRANT TO IMPROVE BUTLER FOR BICYCLES, AS WELL AS YOUR DECISION TO DROP THE SPEED LIMIT. THAT WAS VERY NICE, AND ALSO JUST ANY OTHER THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE DOCKET TO IMPROVE WALKABILITY AND BIKEABILITY IN THIS TOWN? WE'RE STILL SMALL ENOUGH GEOGRAPHICALLY THAT IT IMPACTS A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I'M THANKFUL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT EVERYBODY DOES HERE.
SOMETIMES I WISH THAT I COULD FACE THE, THE STAFF AND NOT JUST THE COUNCILMEMBERS, BECAUSE I THINK NOT ONLY DO THEY DESERVE A LOT OF THANKS FOR THEIR WORK, BUT ALSO SOMETIMES THEY DESERVE SOME OF THE PLEAS FROM US AS PUBLIC CITIZENS, AND THAT'S WHERE I GET TO THE SENSE THAT I HEAR A LOT.
I READ A LOT. I READ THE ATMP, THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, THE DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENT PLAN THE REGIONAL PLAN WENT TO THE ADOT SAFETY IMPROVEMENT MEETING, AND ALL OF THEM ARE ASKING FOR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS AND HOW WE MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER, HOW OUR PEDESTRIANS STILL DYING, HOW OUR BICYCLISTS STILL DYING ON THESE STREETS, AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THOSE STATISTICS INVOLVE CARS.
THEY INVOLVE MOTOR VEHICLES CRASHING INTO EACH OTHER, CRASHING INTO OTHER PEOPLE, CRASHING INTO STATIONARY OBJECTS, AND SO WE NEED TO THINK IN THE SENSE THAT WE CAN AT TIMES AND SHOULD BE PLANNING TO NOT ONLY SLOW DOWN VEHICLES, BUT SOMETIMES INCONVENIENCE THEM.
WE'RE NEVER GOING TO MODE SHIFT.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU HOPEFULLY CAN BIKE TO COUNCIL.
IF YOU CAN'T, DO YOU TAKE THE BUS? DO YOU CARPOOL WITH ONE ANOTHER? DO YOU USE RIDESHARE? DO YOU WALK? DO YOU SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR THE 30% OF THE CITIZENS OF FLAGSTAFF WHO CAN'T OWN A CAR AND WHAT THAT MEANS? AND MAYBE YOU CAN ENCOURAGE YOUR ENTIRE STAFF TO HAVE AN EMPTY PARKING LOT WHERE EVERYBODY TOOK THE BUS BECAUSE THERE'S A BUS STOP RIGHT OUTSIDE CITY COUNC IL, AND IF THERE'S NOT A BUS AT THE END OF CITY COUNCIL FOR YOU, WAS THAT A PROBLEM ON YOU FOR NOT BRINGING YOUR CAR? OR IS THAT A PROBLEM ON OUR SERVICES THAT WE SHOULD BE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE TIME? BECAUSE FOR THE LAST 70 YEARS, WE'VE PRODUCED AND WE ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE THINGS AS FAST AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN FOR CARS AND AS SAFE AS THEY CAN FOR CARS, AND EVERYTHING ELSE GETS LEFT IN THE DUST.
IF YOU WALK OUT INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND YOU LOOK ON EITHER SIDE OF WHICH WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GO, WHAT IS IT INVITING PEOPLE TO DO? IT'S INVITING THEM TO DRIVE.
IT'S NOT INVITING THEM TO WALK.
IT'S NOT INVITING THEM TO BIKE.
SO BE INVITATIONAL FOR ALL ROAD USERS.
[A. Proclamation: Municipal Clerks Week]
FOR THE PROCLAMATION THAT WE ARE READING AT THE AT THAT TIME, PLEASE COME DOWN AND JOIN US.THE FIRST UP IS MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK AND THEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEEK AND THEN BIKE MONTH.
OKAY, SO IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO READ THE PROCLAMATION FOR THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK.
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THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK IS THE OLDEST AMONG PUBLIC SERVANTS, AND WHEREAS THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK PROVIDES THE PROFESSIONAL LINK BETWEEN THE CITIZENS, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BODIES AND AGENCIES OF GOVERNMENT, AND AT OTHER LEVELS, AND WHEREAS, PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS HAVE PLEDGED TO BE TO BE EVER MINDFUL OF THEIR NEUTRALITY, IMPARTIALITY, RENDERING EQUAL SERVICE TO ALL, WHEREAS THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK SERVES AS THE INFORMATION CENTER ON FUNCTIONS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY, WHEREAS PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS CONTINUALLY STRIVE TO IMPROVE THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE AFFAIRS OF THE OFFICE.PROVINCIAL, COUNTY AND INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS.
MUNICIPAL. I CAN'T EVEN TALK MUNICIPAL CLERKS NOW.
THEREFORE, ON BEHALF OF BECKY DAGGETT, MAYOR OF MAYOR OF FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA DO RECOGNIZE THE WEEK OF MAY 5TH THROUGH THE 11TH, 2024 AS PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK AND FURTHER EXTEND APPRECIATION TO OUR PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS AND TO ALL THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS FOR THE VITAL SERVICE THEY PERFORM AND THEIR EXEMPLARY DEDICATION TO THE COMMUNITIES THEY REPRESENT.
JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR THE RECOGNITION.
WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE, IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, TO HAVE A GREAT MUNICIPAL CLERK TEAM.
WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO NOT ONLY SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH WE LIVE, AND WE TAKE A GREAT HONOR IN THAT, BUT TO SERVE THIS ORGANIZATION AND TO SERVE THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE RECOGNITION AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
[B. Proclamation: Economic Development Week]
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEEK? WE'RE ALL HERE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEEK.MAYOR, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ONLINE THAT HAVE SHOWN.
THANK YOU. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEEK IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK EVERYONE AND ALL BUSINESSES THAT CHOOSE FLAGSTAFF THE CITY OF INNOVATION TO BE THEIR HOME.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEEK PROVIDES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONALS A PLATFORM TO SHOWCASE THEIR COMMUNITY, TO SHOWCASE TO THEIR COMMUNITY THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE TO THEIR LOCAL ECONOMY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRACTITIONERS WORK TO CREATE RESILIENT COMMUNITIES WITH RESILIENT ECONOMIES.
CITY OF FLAGSTAFF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RELY UPON AREA PARTNERS AS CRITICAL TEAM MEMBERS WITH WHOM SUPPORT, TRUST, PRODUCTIVITY AND INTEGRITY ARE FOSTERED EVERY DAY.
THE NETWORK OF PARTNERS ENHANCES THE FLAGSTAFF EXPERIENCE FOR ALL.
WE MAY ACKNOWLEDGE A FEW OF OUR TREMENDOUS PARTNERS, INCLUDING THE ECONOMIC COLLABORATIVE OF NORTHERN ARIZONA, MOONSHOT, COCONINO COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE CITY OF WINSLOW, THE CITY OF PAGE, NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY, COCONINO COMMUNITY COLLEGE, THE GREATER FLAGSTAFF CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER, AND THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, BECKY DAGGETT, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 6TH, 2024 THROUGH MAY 10TH, 2024 AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEEK.
YOU WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE OF THE SCREEN? SO THANK YOU ALL, AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? YES. THANK YOU.
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CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE BBB FUNDED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.WE COULD NOT DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT ANY OF YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
[C. Proclamation: Bike Month]
COME ON DOWN.BIKE WEEEK. WHEREAS BICYCLING REPRESENTS ONE OF THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE, CLEAN, EFFICIENT, ECONOMIC AND HEALTHY FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION, AND THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND FLAGSTAFF BIKING ORGANIZATION RECOGNIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF A BICYCLE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY, AND BIKE MONTH RAISES PUBLIC AWARENESS ABOUT THE NEED TO IMPROVE BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE COMMUNITY TO ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO COMMUTE BY BICYCLE AND WHEREAS BICYCLING IMPROVES AIR QUALITY, REDUCES GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, AND SUPPORTS FLAGSTAFF'S CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS, AND WHEREAS, BICYCLING ENHANCES MOBILITY AND HELPS MANAGE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, AND BICYCLING IS AN EXCELLENT LOW IMPACT AEROBIC ACTIVITY THAT IMPROVES HEALTH AND REDUCES STRESS, AND WHEREAS RIDING A BICYCLE HELPS ALL OF US TO CONNECT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND FEEL A SENSE OF PLACE.
NOW THEREFORE, I, ON BEHALF OF MAYOR BECKY DAGGETT.
DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 2024 AS BIKE MONTH IN FLAGSTAFF.
WHO WANTS TO SPEAK? I'LL GIVE YOU THE PROCLAMATION.
I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF FBO, AND WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR CITY PARTNERS, CITY STAFF IN PARTICULAR, MARTIN INCE AND LEADERSHIP. IT'S BEEN A GREAT PLEASURE WORKING WITH THE CITY ON A NUMBER OF CITY EFFORTS, AND ALONG WITH TRAIL BUILDING AND OUR PARTNERS AT THE COUNTY AND AT THE FOREST SERVICE. SO I'M GOING TO PASS THE MIC TO JOLENE, WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT BIKE MONTH.
SO PLEASE LOG YOUR RIDE FOR THE CHALLENGE.
THE WHOLE MONTH LONG WE HAVE GREAT RAFFLE PRIZES FROM OUR BUSINESSES IN TOWN.
GO TO OUR WEBSITE FLAGSTAFFBIKING.ORG FOR ALL OUR EVENTS, TOO.
TOMORROW IS A BIG DAY WITH BIKE TO SCHOOL DAY AND THE CRITICAL MASS RIDE WITH ICE CREAM SOCIAL AT SEACREST IN THE AFTERNOON AND THEN WE HAVE NEXT WEDNESDAY BIKE TO BREAKFAST.
SO PLEASE COME OUT AND HELP AND HAVE FUN AND RIDE YOUR BIKE.
ENJOY FLAGSTAFF IN YOUR COMMUNITY ON TWO WHEELS.
SO CHEERS TO FLAGSTAFF ENJOY RIDING AND ESPECIALLY AS VICE MAYOR ASLAN SAID IT'S A STRESS RELIEVER, SO IF YOU'RE FEELING STRESSED, GET ON YOUR BIKE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE OUR COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS.
[6. COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS]
I WILL START WITH COUNCILMEMBER MATTHEWS.WEEK OR SO AGO, WE HAD OUR MOUNTAIN LINE MEETING WITH OUR BUDGET REVIEW IN MOUNTAIN LINE.
CAPITAL BUDGET IS JUST OVER $70 MILLION, AND IT INCLUDES TWO MORE REPLACEMENTS FOR ELECTRIC BUSSES.
COMPLETION OF PHASE ONE OF OUR DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER.
COMPLETION OF THE INTERIM CONNECTION CENTER.
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ALSO, THE SMART BILL TO EDIT ELIGIBLE ENTITLES TO INCLUDE TRANSIT AGENCIES.TRANSIT AGENCIES HAS PASSED AND BEEN SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS.
AT THIS TIME, I DON'T HAVE ANY LIAISON REPORTS.
MAYOR. THERE WERE TWO COMMISSION MEETINGS DURING OUR BUDGET RETREAT LAST WEEK.
I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THEM IN PERSON, BUT I DO HAVE SOME UPDATES FOR YOU.
FOR TOURISM, THE MAJOR COMPONENT OF THE MEETING WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WATER RATE STUDY.
SO ERIN YOUNG WAS ON HAND TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE THINGS, JUST PART OF THE CITY'S ONGOING OUTREACH TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND HAS A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN.
THERE WERE ALSO JUST SOME PRETTY STANDARD REPORTS FROM LOWELL OBSERVATORY AND FROM OUR DIRECTOR AND STAFF ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS GOING ON AROUND TOWN FOR SUSTAINABILITY.
THE COMMISSION APPOINTED AMY WOLKOWINSKY AS THE NEW CHAIR AND MARY METZGER AS THE NEW VICE CHAIR, AND THE COMMISSION ALSO BEGAN WORKING THROUGH AN EQUITY ASSESSMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUSTAINABILITY GRANT PROGRAM, AND THAT ASSESSMENT IS A TOOL DESIGNED TO HELP IDENTIFY, IDENTIFY AREAS OF STRENGTH AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVING EQUITY IN THEIR WORK. THERE WAS ALSO A COCONINO PLATEAU WATER ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING THAT I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU, MAYOR, AND THE VICE MAYOR AND I AND A TEAM OF STAFF PEOPLE WENT BACK TO WASHINGTON, D.C.
LAST WEEK, AND WE MET WITH SENATORS SINEMA, CONGRESSMAN GALLEGOS, AND OTHERS AND A LOT OF STAFF PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT CONTINUED FUNDING FOR OUR IMPORTANT PROJECTS LIKE RIO DE FLAG FLOOD CONTROL FOREST RESTORATION, ETC..
IN MY OPINION, THE MEETINGS WENT VERY WELL AND IT WAS PRETTY INTENSE.
ONE MEETING AFTER DOT, DOT, DOT DOT, BUT I THINK IT WAS PRODUCTIVE USE OF OUR TIME.
SO I AM ATTENDING A NACTO CONFERENCE.
IT'S A CONFERENCE THAT FOCUSES ON MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION.
ADAM, IF YOU'RE STILL THERE, I KNOW YOU'D BE JEALOUS.
I JUST MET WITH THE BLOOMBERG FOUNDATION AND HAD A CHANCE TO LEARN FROM OTHER CITIES ON PROJECTS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN CHESHIRE, AND IT WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME LESSONS THAT THEY'VE LEARNED, AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT.
IT'S KICKING OFF HERE SOON, SO THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN, AND AN UPDATE ON MOUNTAIN LINE.
THE CDL TRAINING AND TESTING FACILITY IS COMPLETE.
VERY EXCITED ON THAT, AND THE RIBBON CUTTING IS HAPPENING THIS MONTH AND MOUNTAIN LINE AND NAU HAVE ALREADY BEGUN USING THE DRIVER TRAINING AND A QUICK REMINDER THAT THERE IS A SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION A WEEK FROM THURSDAY 3 TO 5 HERE IN THE CHAMBERS REGARDING THE WATER RATE STUDY.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.
YOU FORGOT TO MENTION SOMETHING.
MY APOLOGIES TO MY COLLEAGUES IN THE INDIGENOUS COMMISSION.
WE HAD A VERY RARE IN-PERSON MEETING.
WE USUALLY DO OURS VIA TEAMS, BUT WE MET AT THE FUTURE INDIGENOUS CULTURAL CENTER.
WE HAD LUNCH SERVED AND EVERYONE.
IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE, SO I JUST WANTED TO REPORT THAT.
[A. Consideration of Appointments: Commission on Inclusion and Adaptive Living STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Make one appointment to a term expiring March 2025.]
WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE COMMISSION ON INCLUSION AND ADAPTIVE LIVING, AND I BELIEVE IT'S YOU.THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE APPLICANTS THAT WE HAD.
JUST ALL OF THEM WERE SO QUALIFIED.
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NOMINATE LAURA SMITH AS THE NEWEST COMMISSIONER FOR THE COMMISSION ON INCLUSION AND ADAPTIVE LIVING.IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
NOW WE'RE MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, LIQUOR LICENSE, PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[A. Consideration and Action on Liquor License Application: Lauren Kay Merrett, "Grand Canyon Spirits," 928 Fort Valley Road, Series 07 (Beer and Wine Bar), Owner Transfer. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Forward the application to the State with a recommendation for approval; Forward the application to the State with a recommendation for denial based on the testimony received at the public hearing and/or other factors.]
FIRST I AM GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE HAVE STAFF HERE TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE TWO APPLICATIONS, AND THEN I'LL TAKE COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS IS FOR A SERIES SEVEN BEER AND WINE BAR LICENSE AT GRAND CANYON SPIRITS, LOCATED AT 982 NORTH VALLEY FORT VALLEY ROAD, FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA. THE APPLICATION WAS FILED BY LAUREN KAY MERRITT, WHO IS THE AGENT.
KETAN KUMAR PATEL, [INAUDIBLE] PATEL, CHIRAG [INAUDIBLE] PATEL, DEVANG KUMAR PATEL, [INAUDIBLE] PATEL, VISHAL KUMAR PATEL AND VISHAL KUMAR WHO ARE THE CONTROLLING PERSONS.
I FOUND EVIDENCE THAT THE APPLICANTS HAD TAKEN THE MANDATORY LIQUOR LICENSE TRAINING.
A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BUSINESS WAS INVITED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR POLICE OFFICER.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING PLANNING AND ZONING ISSUES, AND I JUST WONDER, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION OR A COMMENT AND THEN MAYBE SOME QUESTIONS AFTER THAT? HELLO, ALAXANDRA PUCCIARELLI, CURRENT PLANNING MANAGER.
I CAN SHARE THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME ABOUT THIS LOCATION, BUT IT WAS DISCOVERED BY STAFF THAT THE BAR WAS IN EXISTENCE.
THAT HAS NEVER COME THROUGH OUR REVIEW PROCESS.
THE OWNER WAS MADE AWARE THAT IT WAS IN VIOLATION AND GIVEN THE STEPS THAT HE NEEDS TO TAKE TO GET THAT RESOLVED. THE OWNER DID COME IN FOR A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING WHERE, AGAIN, THOSE STEPS WERE OUTLINED MOST LIKELY A CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW, AND THEN WE'RE OPTIMISTIC WE CAN MOVE THEM INTO BUILDING PERMIT.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED AN APPLICATION AT THIS POINT FOR THAT CONCEPT PLAN.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY? YES. HELLO, EVERYONE.
IT'S MIKE PATEL WITH GRAND CANYON SPIRITS.
YEAH [INAUDIBLE] OF GETTING THE APPLICATION IN, BUT IT'S HARD TO GET ANY CONCEPT CONCEPT PLAN GOING.
I'VE CONTACTED MORE THAN FIVE DIFFERENT EITHER DRAFTSMEN, ARCHITECTS, OR WHATNOT.
AGAIN, WE WERE NOT AWARE WHEN WE, BUT THE BUSINESS THAT SHE HAD NOT PROPER LICENSES ANYWAYS, WE JUST ARE WANTING TO CONTINUE DOING THE BAR BUSINESS ONCE THE PROCESS IS COMPLETE AND APPROVED.
SO YEAH, WE'RE STILL IN PROCESS OF GETTING THIS CONCEPT PLAN THROUGH ONE OF THE APPROVED DRAFTSMAN OR ARCHITECT OR WHOEVER WE COULD FIND, BUT NO ONE HAS GONE BACK TO US JUST YET.
HENCE, THE APPLICATION WAS NOT SUBMITTED.
VICE MAYOR, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH. I'M CURIOUS IF AN EXTENSION IS A VIABLE OPTION.
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GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.STACEY FOBAR, YOUR DEPUTY CITY CLERK.
THE STATE OF ARIZONA ONLY GIVES THE LOCAL GOVERNING BOARD 60 DAYS TO REVIEW AND RECOMMEND LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATIONS, AND TODAY IS ACTUALLY THE 60TH DAY.
SO WE HAVE PUSHED IT OUT AS FAR AS WE CAN.
WE INFORMED THE APPLICANT ONCE WE RECEIVED THE FIRST REPORT, THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH THEIR CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW, AND THAT WE MOVED THE APPLICATION AS FAR BACK AS WE COULD.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS DUE BY 5:00 PM.
YEAH. I HAD SPOKE TO THE AGENT WHO WORKS CLOSELY WITH STATE AND ALL THEY SAID IS EXTENSION WOULD BE THE BEST OPTION. STATE HAS NO PLAY IN STOPPING ME TO HAVE THIS BAR.
IT'S JUST THE CITY'S YOU KNOW IT'S AT THE CITY'S MERCY RIGHT NOW.
WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, THAT'S ALL.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF WE DO RECOMMEND DENIAL THIS EVENING, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE APPLICATION WILL GO TO THE STATE WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNING BOARD, AND THE STATE WILL SCHEDULE A HEARING TO BE HELD IN THE FUTURE.
THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND CITY STAFF WORK TOGETHER TO DECIDE THAT PERHAPS THE BEST OPTION WOULD BE TO HAVE THAT HEARING, SINCE THE APPLICANT DID NOT WITHDRAW THEIR APPLICATION AND IF THE PROCESS IS DONE BY THEN, THEN WE WOULD CHANGE OUR POSITION AS THE CITY.
ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
NOW I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
THANK YOU. MAYOR, ARE YOU SURE? I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ESTABLISHMENT GETTING THEIR LIQUOR LICENSES.
THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, ITEM EIGHT A AND EIGHT B.
HOWEVER CONSIDERING THAT THERE'S SOME PLANNING AND ZONING SHORTCOMINGS THAT NEED TO GET RESOLVED, I WILL MAKE A MOTION.
I HEREBY MOVE THAT WE FORWARD THE APPLICATION TO THE STATE WITH A RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WILL BE SUPPORTIVE ONCE THEIR PLANNING AND ZONING PAPERWORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED PROPERLY.
IS THERE A SECOND? I HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
IS THAT FOR THE BEER AND WINE BAR ONLY, OR FOR BOTH THE BEER AND WINE BAR AND THE LIQUOR STORE? SO IN OTHER WORDS, ITEM A AND B OR JUST A.
WELL, MY MOTION WAS FOR BOTH, BUT I GUESS I BELIEVE THE DISCREPANCY WOULD APPLY TO BOTH.
IS THAT CORRECT? COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY IT WOULD NOT.
WE COULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL FOR SERIES NINE AND APPROVAL OR DENIAL FOR THE SERIES SEVEN.
SO THEY ARE BEING TAKEN AS TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. SO WHICH ONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH PLANNING AND ZONING? SERIES SEVEN. WHICH IS ITEM A.
ITEM A? IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY ITEM A IS THE ONE THAT HAS THE DISCREPANCY.
THE BAR IS A NEW USE IN THE EXISTING RETAIL LIQUOR STORE, WHICH IS LEGIT.
SO, MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW MY PREVIOUS MOTION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT ITEM EIGHT A BE FORWARDED TO THE STATE WITH RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND DO EIGHT B SEPARATELY.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THANK YOU, AND NOW B.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION?
[B. Consideration and Action on Liquor License Application: Lauren Kay Merrett, "Grand Canyon Spirits," 928 Fort Valley Road, Series 09 (Liquor Store), Owner Transfer. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Forward the application to the State with a recommendation for approval; Forward the application to the State with a recommendation for denial based on the testimony received at the public hearing and/or other factors.]
THANK YOU. MAYOR, I MOVE THAT ITEM EIGHT B BE FORWARDED TO THE STATE BOARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. NO, I JUST I HAD A CLARIFYING QUESTION BECAUSE SINCE THEY'RE BEING TAKEN SEPARATELY, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A SEPARATE PRESENTATION ON EIGHT B OR IF THERE WERE ANY DEROGATORY MARKS THAT WERE FOUND ON THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY HEARD ON THAT YET. YEAH, SO I CAN ANSWER THAT.[00:35:02]
THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS FOR THE OWNER TRANSFER LIQUOR LICENSE FOR A SERIES NINE LIQUOR STORE LICENSE AT GRAND CANYON SPIRITS AT 982 NORTH FORT VALLEY ROAD IN FLAGSTAFF.SO, MAYOR, IF I MAY, YOU WOULD NEED TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM EIGHT B THEN.
I'M REOPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND PLEASE PROCEED.
OKAY. THE NEXT IS FOR AN OWNER TRANSFER LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION.
APPLICATION WAS FILED BY LAUREN KAY MERRITT, WHO IS THE AGENT, KETAN KUMAR PATEL, [INAUDIBLE] PATEL, CHIRAG [INAUDIBLE] PATEL, DEVANG KUMAR PATEL, [INAUDIBLE] PATEL, VISHAL KUMAR PATEL AND VIPUL KUMAR WHO ARE ALL LISTED AS THE CONTROLLING PERSONS, AND IN MY INVESTIGATION, I DISCOVERED NO DEROGATORY RECORDS ON THE APPLICANTS AND NO CURRENT OR HISTORICAL LIQUOR VIOLATIONS ON THE BUSINESS, AND I FOUND EVIDENCE THE APPLICANTS HAD TAKEN THE MANDATORY LIQUOR LICENSE TRAINING.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE, AND JUST TO RESTATE WHAT YOU STATED EARLIER, THERE ARE NO PLANNING ISSUES AROUND EIGHT B AROUND THE SERIES NINE APPLICATION.
THANK YOU, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES. NO, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR AT LEAST GETTING THAT PART SORTED OUT AND HAVE THE RETAIL LOCATION APPROVED.
SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
SO I NEED TO REMAKE THE MOTION.
IS THAT CORRECT, MR. ATTORNEY? THAT IS CORRECT.
OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM EIGHT B, AND BY THAT I MEAN FORWARD THE APPLICATION TO THE STATE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. I'LL SECOND.
SORRY. WE HAVE SECOND SQUARED.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[9. CONSENT AGENDA All matters under Consent Agenda are considered by the City Council to be routine. Unless a member of City Council expresses a desire at the meeting to remove an item from the Consent Agenda for discussion, the Consent Agenda will be enacted by one motion approving the recommendations listed on the agenda. Unless otherwise indicated, expenditures approved by Council are budgeted items. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve the Consent Agenda as posted.]
UNLESS A MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL EXPRESSES A DESIRE AT THE MEETING TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION, THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION APPROVING THE RECOMMENDATIONS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.UNLESS OTHERWISE INDICATED, EXPENDITURES APPROVED BY COUNCIL ARE BUDGETED ITEMS. COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY ITEM THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION? SEEING NONE.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MAYOR, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS POSTED.
A SECOND? I SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE.
MOVING DOWN TO TEN A, ROUTINE ITEMS.
[A. Consideration and Adoption of Ordinance No. 2024-14: An ordinance of the City Council of the City of Flagstaff, ratifying the grants of easements and real property; and formally accepting grants of easements and real property; providing for severability, authority for clerical corrections, and establishing an effective date. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Read Ordinance No. 2024-14 by title only for the final time City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2024-14 by title only (if approved above) Adopt Ordinance No. 2024-14 ]
FIRST TEN A, CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-14, AND THIS IS OUR SECOND TIME.SO COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ALL RIGHT. THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO READ THE ORDINANCE BY TITLE FOR THE FINAL TIME.
WE READ ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-14 BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FINAL TIME.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? CITY CLERK? AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, RATIFYING THE GRANT AND RESERVATION OF EASEMENTS, AND FORMALLY ACCEPTING DEDICATIONS AND DONATIONS OF EASEMENTS AND REAL PROPERTY INTERESTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AUTHORITY FOR CLERICAL CORRECTIONS AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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THANK YOU.CAN I AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK ON THIS GETTING US TO THIS POINT.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-14.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND ANY DISCUSSION.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, MOVING DOWN REGULAR AGENDA ITEM 11 A CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-15.
[A. Consideration and Adoption of Ordinance No. 2024-15: An ordinance amending the Flagstaff City Code, Chapter 1-14, Personnel System, by amending the Employee Handbook of Regulations, Section 1-50-010 Holiday Leave; providing for repeal of conflicting ordinances, severability, authority for clerical correction, and establishing an effective date. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: At the May 7, 2024 Council Meeting: 1) Read Ordinance No. 2024-15 by title only for the first time 2) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2024-15 by title only (if approved above) At the May 21, 2024 Council Meeting: 3) Read Ordinance No. 2024-15 by title only for the final time 4) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2024-15 by title only (if approved above) 5) Adopt Ordinance No. 2024-15]
SO WE ARE READING THIS ORDINANCE BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND.STAFF. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO PRESENT TO US? MAYOR, WE'VE GOT JENNIFER CAPUTO ONLINE WHO I BELIEVE WILL BE SPEAKING TO THIS ITEM.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JENNIFER CAPUTO, AND I'M THE INTERIM DEPUTY HR DIRECTOR HERE TO TALK TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT AN UPDATE TO ONE OF OUR HANDBOOK POLICIES.
THIS IS REGARDING OUR HOLIDAY LEAVE POLICY, AND IF YOU'LL RECALL, EARLIER IN THE YEAR, YOU DID APPROVE TWO NEW HOLIDAYS, JUNETEENTH ON JUNE 19TH OF EACH YEAR, AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY, WHICH WOULD BE THE SECOND MONDAY IN OCTOBER OF EACH YEAR, AND WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY IS TO JUST INCLUDE THOSE TWO HOLIDAYS IN OUR CURRENT HANDBOOK.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MAYOR, I WILL MOVE TO READ ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-15 BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FIRST TIME.
THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CITY CLERK.
SECTION 1-50-010 HOLIDAY LEAVE PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, SEVERABILITY, AUTHORITY FOR CLERICAL CORRECTIONS AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU.
[B. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2024-21: A resolution approving settlement of the City’s attorney fees in City of Flagstaff v. State of Arizona, et. al., Case No.: CV2021-011210 in the Maricopa County Superior Court relating to Flagstaff’s local minimum wage and its alleged impacts on agencies of the State of Arizona operating in Flagstaff. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Read Resolution No. 2024-21 by title only City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2024-21 by title only (if approved above) Adopt Resolution No. 2024-21]
SETTLEMENT OF THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S FEES IN CITY OF FLAGSTAFF V STATE OF ARIZONA.CITY ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO TELL US? BRIEFLY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THANK YOU. STERLING SOLOMON, CITY ATTORNEY.
THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF VERSUS THE STATE OF ARIZONA CASE HAS GONE THROUGH THE COURTS, AND AS RECOMMENDED, I WOULD REITERATE AGAIN THAT YOU APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT OF THE ATTORNEY'S FEES IN THAT CASE AS PRESENTED HERE IN THIS RESOLUTION.
ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE READ RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-21 BY TITLE ONLY.
I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZING SETTLEMENT OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S FEES IN CITY OF FLAGSTAFF V STATE OF ARIZONA, ET AL RELATING TO FLAGSTAFF'S LOCAL MINIMUM WAGE AND ITS ALLEGED IMPACTS ON AGENCIES OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA OPERATING IN FLAGSTAFF.
THANK YOU. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT.
MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-21.
A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. WE ARE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 12 DISCUSSION ITEM POST WILDFIRE FLOODING UPDATE, AND
[A. Post-wildfire Flooding Update STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: For information only.]
FOR EVERYONE'S INFORMATION, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK BEFORE ITEM NUMBER 13.[00:45:24]
ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.GOOD TO SEE YOU. I'M JULIE WITH PEAK ENGINEERING SUPPORTING THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND THE DELIVERY OF THE SPRUCE WASH PROJECTS, ALONG WITH DOZENS AND DOZENS OF OTHERS, AND YOU'VE GOT A GREAT TEAM HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OR THIS AFTERNOON.
ED SCHENK, STORM WATER DIRECTOR.
YOU'LL HEAR FROM ED, I HAVE JOE LOVERICH WITH J.E.
SO WE'RE GOING TO COVER AN UPDATE ON SPRUCE WASH AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO SCHULTZ CREEK.
ALL RIGHT. SO AS A REMINDER FOR THE FIRST PART FOR THE MUSEUM FLOOD AREA, THAT'S 2019 FIVE YEARS NOW AND THAT IMPACTS THE SPRUCE WASH CORRIDOR.
SO THIS IS PARADISE, GRANDVIEW AND THE SUNNYSIDE NEIGHBORHOODS.
IN 2022, WE HAD THE PIPELINE FIRE.
SO PRIMARILY THE FLAGSTAFF NEIGHBORHOOD OF COCONINO ESTATES.
SO STARTING WITH SPRUCE WASH, WE HAD TO DEFINITELY JUGGLE THE SCHEDULE A LITTLE BIT.
SO AS MUCH AS WE WANTED TO START DOWNSTREAM AND WORK OUR WAY UPSTREAM, WHEN THAT PROJECT GOT SHIFTED, WE HAD TO RETHINK THINGS AND WE HAD TO ACCELERATE DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT TO REDUCE THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC LOCALLY.
SO THIS IS AN UPDATED CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE.
IT HAS ONLY BEEN A YEAR AND A HALF.
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. SINCE PROPOSITION 441 PASSED AND THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH WORK DONE.
WE STILL HAVE DESIGN THAT IS ONGOING.
UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW IS THE GRANDVIEW STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND THE LINDA VISTA CROSSING PROJECT, AND A PORTION OF THE CHANNEL. ALSO, WEDGE UTILITIES AND STORM DRAIN ARE SCHEDULED TO START HERE VERY SOON, WHICH IS WHY THE LINDA VISTA AREA IS CLOSED.
NEXT YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT A CONTINUATION OF THAT WEDGE UTILITIES AND STORM DRAIN.
WE NEED TO TIE THOSE TWO PROJECTS TOGETHER FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL, AND THEN WE LOOK INTO 2026.
THAT'S WHEN WE'RE KIND OF AT THE VERY DOWNSTREAM END TOWARDS THE KILLIP REGIONAL DETENTION BASINS, AND LOOKING AT THE ARROYO SECO TO DORTHA CHANNEL AND THE KILLIP INLET AND OUTLET. ALL RIGHT, SO I KNOW YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS MAP, SO WE'LL JUST DO A QUICK WALK THROUGH ON EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS.
SO CURRENT CONDITION ON GRANDVIEW.
ACTUALLY, THIS IS NO LONGER THE CURRENT CONDITION ON GRANDVIEW.
IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY RECENTLY, MUCH OF THIS HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED AND CREWS ARE WORKING ON INSTALLATION OF NEW CURB AND GUTTER, AND THEY'RE STARTING ON THE PAVEMENT SECTION. SO THAT NEW GEOMETRY WE IT'S AN INVERTED CROWN ROAD.
THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A PRETTY BIG IMPACT FOR FOLKS THIS YEAR.
OUR GOAL HERE IS TO PAVE THIS OUT JULY 2ND, JULY 3RD.
SO WE HAVE GONE TO A ROLLED CURB ALL ALONG GRANDVIEW.
IT'S A MODIFIED TYPE ROLL CURB.
IT'S A COUPLE INCHES TALLER FOR CAPACITY FOR DRAINAGE, AND WE DID THIS TO MAINTAIN THAT, THAT CAPACITY IN THE ROADWAY, BUT ALSO TO LESSEN THE IMPACTS INTO EVERYONE'S FRONT YARDS AND TO BE ABLE TO ALSO MAINTAIN THEIR CURRENT PARKING CONFIGURATION IN NEEDS.
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SO I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT CHANGE, AND THAT WAS VETTED THROUGH OUR TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND A LOT OF STUDY WENT INTO MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DRIVE BY AND CHECK IT OUT.THEY'RE DOING GREAT WORK AND IT'S REALLY FUN TO SEE THIS HAPPENING.
RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL AND VERY PATIENT.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE MOVE TO THE WEDGE DETENTION BASIN.
A PORTION OF THIS WORK HAS STARTED.
I KNOW THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT FOR VICE MAYOR.
WE'VE GOT THE TREES AROUND IT.
THEN WE HAVE THE LINDA VISTA CROSSING.
THESE PIPES ARE COMING OUT AND A NEW BOX STRUCTURE IS GOING THROUGH.
YOU CAN SEE THAT SQUARE OFF TO THE RIGHT.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE WHEREVER IT'S VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC WAY.
THEN, AS WE'RE MOVING A LITTLE BIT DOWNSTREAM, LINDA VISTA TO CEDAR CHANNEL.
THIS IS WORK YOU'LL BEGIN TO SEE HERE PRETTY SOON AS WELL.
A PORTION OF THAT CHANNEL WILL BE SORT OF AN ARTICULATED CONCRETE BLOCK MAT, WITH THE IDEA THAT THE VOIDS IN THAT MAT MAYBE SOME VEGETATION CAN GO THROUGH THAT WILL BE ON THE UPPER PORTION OF THE CHANNEL.
THE LOWER PORTION OF THE CHANNEL WILL BE CONCRETE.
WE'VE MET WITH MANY OF THESE HOMEOWNERS AND TALKED ABOUT THEIR IMPACTS TO THEIR BACKYARDS AND WORKED WITH THEM AND AGAIN, THEY'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT AND ACCEPTING AND EXCITED TO SEE THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD.
SO WE MOVED TO THE CEDAR AVENUE CROSSING.
WE'VE GOT A BOX THERE, AND IN THE FUTURE WE'RE GOING TO WIDEN THAT BOX, CONVEY MORE OF THAT FLOOD WATER AND AGAIN, THAT FOOT TYPE RAIL TO IMPROVE THE ESTHETICS. MOVING FURTHER DOWNSTREAM, WE HAVE THE ARROYO SECO TO DORTHA CHANNEL.
THIS PICKS UP WHERE THE DORTHA BOX CROSSING WAS INSTALLED NOT TOO LONG AGO, AND ONE THING THAT WE'VE BEEN WHERE WE'RE HEADED NOW IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE SOME OF THAT EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO WE'VE BEEN MODIFYING THE DESIGN.
THIS IS IN 2026 IS THE PLAN TO FINISH THIS PIECE, AND THEN WE HAVE THE INLET, AND SO THIS IS ALL TIED WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS AT PONDEROSA PARK AND HOW WE SEND SOME OF THAT FLOW TO KILLIP REGIONAL DETENTION BASIN, AND THEN KEEP SOME OF THAT FLOW IN THE 60 INCH PIPE THAT GOES DOWN SPRUCE AND TOWARDS ROUTE 66.
HERE'S THAT PIECE THROUGH PONDEROSA PARK.
WE CALL THAT THE KILLIP BASINS INLET.
THIS IS AN ARMY CORPS FUNDED PROJECT.
AND ED SCHENK FOR PULLING THAT TOGETHER AND ADDING SOME FUNDING TO OUR PROJECT THAT WAS MUCH NEEDED.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT'S FLOOD CONTROL PROJECT, BUT THERE ARE WAYS TO DO THAT TO MAINTAIN THE USE OF THAT PARK, AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT COMMUNITY AMENITY, AND THEN AT THE VERY END, WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER OUTLET STRUCTURE FROM KILLIP BASIN AND LET IT TAKE IT OUT TO THROUGH A PIPE TO THE UNDERGROUND PORTION OF THE WEST STREET WASH.
SO CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS RIGHT NOW I KNOW IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR FOLKS.
I KNOW INITIALLY THAT FIRST WEEK OR SO WAS ALWAYS PRETTY TOUGH.
WE'VE HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH FUSD.
WE HAVE AN EMAIL LISTSERV THAT WE DO NOTIFICATIONS, HAD SOME CALLS FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO TRAFFIC CONTROL IN THE AREA, WHICH WE'VE DONE. SO WE'RE WORKING HARD TO LESSEN THE IMPACT TO RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA, BUT WE JUST, YOU KNOW, ASK THEM TO HANG IN THERE.
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SO THAT'LL BE ABOUT A YEAR, AND WE'LL GET THAT DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S PLANNED FOR ABOUT A YEAR THAT PORTION OF LINDA VISTA WILL BE CLOSED. ALL RIGHT, AND THEN COMING THIS THURSDAY, THERE WILL BE REDUCED PRESSURE, WATER PRESSURE TO A HANDFUL OF RESIDENTS OR TO MANY RESIDENTS ON APPALACHIAN FOREST HEIGHTS AREA, AND BETA PR HAS GONE DOOR TO DOOR LAST WEEK AND DID DOOR HANGERS FOR ALL OF THESE FOLKS.THIS HAPPENS ON THURSDAY DURING BUSINESS HOURS.
IT'S ONE DAY ONLY, BUT WE NEED TO DO SOME SYSTEM UPGRADES THERE, AND SO FOLKS WILL JUST HAVE REDUCED PRESSURE, BUT THEY WILL STILL HAVE WATER, AND HOPEFULLY ALL THOSE DOOR HANGERS DIDN'T BLOW AWAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO NOW I'M EXCITED TO SHARE WHAT LOOK LIKE AFTER THIS GREAT INVESTMENT.
I'M JOE WITH JE FULLER, AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME SOME PICTURES HERE TO GIVE A REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE PROJECTS.
SO YOU HAVE THREE PICTURES ON THE SCREEN HERE.
THE ONE ON THE LEFT, IT SAYS EXISTING.
SO THIS SHOWS THE PINKS YELLOWS ORANGES TO THE REDS.
THOSE ARE ALL DECREASES IN DEPTH, AND THEN THE PURPLES AND THE BLUES ARE INCREASES IN DEPTH.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THESE PROJECTS ARE REALLY GOING TO ACT AFTER THEY ARE IMPLEMENTED AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S INCREASES WHERE WE WANT THEM, WHERE THEY'RE CHANNELIZED, WHERE THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND THERE'S DECREASES WHERE WE WANT THE DECREASES WHERE WE'RE BENEFITING THE HOUSES AND BUSINESSES THROUGH THE AREA.
SO YOU CAN SEE GRANDVIEW AREA IS VERY CLEANED UP, IF YOU WILL, IN THIS WHERE WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF WATER TO THE WEDGE, A LOT OF CAPACITY IN THE CHANNEL ACROSS LINDA VISTA AND THEN DOWN TO CEDAR, AND THAT INTROVERTED CROWN THEN PROVIDES A LOT OF CAPACITY IN THE ROADWAY IN THE EVENT THAT, IN THE EVENT OVERTOPS LINDA VISTA.
MOVING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWNSTREAM.
SAME CONFIGURATION ON THESE PICTURES.
THERE'S A FEW DESIGN ITERATIONS STILL HAPPENING, LIKE JULIE SAID, ON THE LOWER PORTION OF THE CHANNEL SOUTH OF DORTHA, BUT WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF WATER INCREASE IN DEPTH IN THE CHANNEL WHERE WE WANT IT, AND OVERALL, FROM MAIN STREET THROUGH ROSE STREET, SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS DECREASE IN POTENTIAL WATER DEPTHS AND WHAT THAT MEANS, ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU'RE HAVING A DECREASE IN WATER DEPTHS, YOU'RE ALMOST HAVING A DECREASE IN PROBABILITY THAT WATER IS GOING TO GET TO THOSE PLACES BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LARGER STORM TO IMPACT THEM.
SO YOU MOVE FURTHER DOWNSTREAM TO KILLIP AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE PINKS THESE ARE ALL WATER DECREASES FROM THIRD TO FIRST STREET OVER TO MAIN AND A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE IN DEPTH THAT HAPPENS IN THE KILLIP DETENTION BASINS AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S NEEDED THIS ADDITIONAL OUTLET IN THE KILLIP DETENTION BASINS OVER TO WEST STREET.
SO IT'S A BIG BALANCING ACT OF MAKING SURE THE WATER IS GOING WHERE WE NEED IT TO, MAKING SURE THE BENEFITS ARE WHERE WE NEED IT TO BE, AND AGAIN, THIS INLET CONFIGURATION THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT HERE THAT'S INFLUX RIGHT NOW DEPENDING ON A COUPLE OF DESIGN CHALLENGES WE'RE WORKING THROUGH.
ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT TOO, IS JUST FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR AND ED WILL GET TO THIS IN THE SANDBAGGING IS JUST BY IMPLEMENTING THE GRANDVIEW ROAD RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, YOU HAVE A BIG IMPACT JUST BECAUSE OF THAT BECAUSE BY INVERTING THE CROWN, YOU'RE YOU'RE ALLOWING MORE WATER TO FLOW DOWN THE CENTER OF THE ROAD, NOT THE YARDS, WHICH ALLOWS A DECREASE DEPTH IN PEOPLE'S FRONT YARDS AND AGAINST THEIR HOUSES.
SO THIS IS THE RESULTS EXISTING, PROPOSED AND CHANGED.
SO ALL THE YELLOWS AND PINKS ARE DEPTH DECREASES, WHICH HELPS PEOPLE WITH THEIR SANDBAGGING THIS UPCOMING YEAR, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ED.
THANK YOU, JOE. SO JUST TO PICK UP WHERE JOE LEFT OFF, WE DID HAVE A MEETING, A COMMUNITY MEETING EARLIER THIS SPRING WHERE WE COMMUNICATED SOME OF THIS INFORMATION TO FOR THE SPRUCE WASH PROJECTS.
SO, AS MENTIONED, THE BIGGEST CHANGE FOR SHORT TERM MITIGATION.
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SO YOUR SANDBAGS AND BARRIERS FOR SPRUCE WASH IS FOR GRANDVIEW, AND THAT INTERIM CONDITION WILL BE VALID FOR ABOUT 1 OR 2 YEARS AS WE COMPLETE THE REST OF THE PROJECTS. THE REST OF THE PROJECTS DO NEED TO COME ONLINE BEFORE WE SEE THAT SUBSTANTIAL FLOOD MITIGATION BENEFIT, BUT RIGHT NOW, WE DO SEE A FLOOD MITIGATION BENEFIT FOR GRANDVIEW ITSELF.SO WE DO HAVE THAT INTERIM CONDITION MAP, THE ONE THAT JOE JUST SHOWED THAT IS ACTUALLY ON OUR WEBSITE, THE MUSEUM FLOOD PROJECTS WEBSITE AND THOSE IF YOU NEED ASSESSMENTS, IF YOU NEED AN ENGINEERING ASSESSMENT FOR THAT TO HELP PUTTING IN NEW SANDBAGS RESIDENTS CAN CALL THAT CALL CENTER NUMBER.
SO IT'S THAT SAME CALL CENTER NUMBER THAT'S BEEN UP FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW THAT (928)Â 213-2102 FOR RESIDENTS SOUTH OF GRANDVIEW, OUR EXISTING MODEL STILL, IS THE SAME FOR SANDBAGS AND FOR BARRIER AND WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FROM MUSEUM FIRE, SO WE SPENT THE FIRST HALF OF THIS TALK TALKING ABOUT MUSEUM FIRE 2019, AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE OVER TO THE 2022 PIPELINE FIRE AND SCHULTZ CREEK.
WE HAVE A SYSTEM OF IMPROVEMENTS.
RIGHT NOW IT'S A LITTLE OVER $7 MILLION CURRENTLY FULLY FUNDED BY STATE BILL 1720, AND IT WILL PROVIDE SUBSTANTIAL FLOOD RELIEF TO THE COCONINO ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE WAY DOWN INTO THE DOWNTOWN, AND WE EXPECT THAT TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE BEFORE MONSOONS THIS YEAR.
WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD AT IT.
SO AGAIN, THIS PROJECT STARTS NEAR THAT ACE BUILDING ON HIGHWAY 180.
THEN DUAL BOX CULVERTS UNDER HIGHWAY 180 NEAR FIRE STATION NUMBER FIVE AND GRAND CANYON TRUST, AND THEN IT OUTLETS RIGHT PAST GRAND CANYON TRUST WHERE WE HAVE A LARGER CHANNEL OR ALLUVIAL FAN INTO THE RIO DE FLAG.
OUR PARTNERS ON THIS, WE HAVE MULTIPLE PARTNERS JUST LIKE ALL THE PROJECTS.
SO OUR DESIGNER IS ARDURA, SWI-ARDURA.
BANICKI CONSTRUCTION IS OUR CMAR, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE OTHER GOVERNMENTAL PARTNERS, INCLUDING COCONINO COUNTY AND ADOT, AND THEN ALSO OF THE HUGE THANK YOU TO THE STATE LEGISLATOR FOR PROVIDING THE $8.99 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS FOR DETENTION BASIN REGIONAL DETENTION BASIN MAINTENANCE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND ON THESE PICTURES YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE THE PRECAST CONCRETE ELEMENTS.
SO, ON THAT RIGHT HAND PHOTO THAT IS ACTUALLY PLACING THOSE DOWN IN THE HOLE.
IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO WATCH AND ALSO QUITE DAUNTING WITH THE LARGE SAFETY THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR TRENCH CONTROL, AND WITH THAT, I'LL PUNT IT BACK TO JOE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE MODELING FOR SCHULTZ CREEK.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, QUICK FOR MY PIECE.
AGAIN, THE SAME FORMAT ON THESE MAPS EXISTING, PROPOSED AND CHANGED, AND THE DYNAMICS HERE IS THAT WHEN SCHULTZ CREEK OVERTOPS ONTO HIGHWAY 180, WE'VE TALKED THROUGH THIS IN EXCESS BEFORE IT.
IT WANTS TO GO ALONG THE ROAD.
IN DOING SO, IT SITS IN COCONINO ESTATES; IT'S A DISH.
THAT'S WHERE THE EXISTING PIPE IS RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE FUNCTIONING ANYMORE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE REPLACED WITH THE BLACK SOLID LINE ACROSS HIGHWAY 180 RIGHT BETWEEN THE FIRE STATION NORTH OF THE FIRE STATION AND SO THE CHANGES YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LITTLE BIT INCREASE IN DEPTH IN THE RIO WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE AND A MAJOR DECREASE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE SYSTEM. IT REALLY FOR THE TWO INCH STORM EVENT BETWEEN THE DETENTION BASINS UP ON SCHULTZ PASS RD AND THIS IMPROVEMENT IT REALLY
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DRIES OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM SCHULTZ CREEK.DOWNSTREAM, I APOLOGIZE, THIS IS A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, AND I BUT WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, ON MEADE, THAT WAS A BIG PUDDLE--MORE THAN A PUDDLE, BUT WATER PONDS THERE, VERY WELL--ALONG [INAUDIBLE], ALONG FORT VALLEY ROAD, DOWN TALKINGTON, ALL OF THAT WATER IS REALLY PUSHED OVER TO THE RIO.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SEEING THESE LONG EXTENDING BENEFITS ALL THE WAY DOWN.
ALL THE WAY DOWN REALLY TO THORPE PARK AND THE FRANCES SHORT POND, AND AGAIN I'LL PASS IT TO ED AND I'LL KEEP THIS THIS SLIDE SHORT.
NOW, ONCE WE HAVE THAT COMPLETE JULY 1ST, WE'LL BE WORKING.
SO THERE WILL BE A PROGRAM OF SOME LEVEL.
WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MUCH TO ASSIST WITH REMOVING SANDBAGS FROM THE COCONINO ESTATES AREA.
WE'RE TALKING TWO YEARS AFTER THE FIRE, WE WILL HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY REMOVED THE FLOOD RISK, THE POST-WILDFIRE FLOOD RISK FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS REALLY LAUDABLE TO THE ENTIRE TEAM OUT THERE THAT'S BEEN WORKING THIS AND IT'S A VERY, VERY LARGE TEAM.
FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO REMOVE THEIR SANDBAGS BEFOREHAND, AGAIN, WE DO NOT RECOMMEND THAT, BUT IF THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO ARE ITCHING IF THEY HAVE CLEAN SANDBAGS, WE RECOMMEND MOVING THOSE TO THORPE PARK, WHERE WE HAVE THE AZTEC YARD, SO THAT FOLKS WHO DO NEED SANDBAGS CAN REUSE THOSE SANDBAGS FOR DAMAGED ONES.
AGAIN, WE WILL ROLL OUT A PROGRAM AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT INTERNALLY OF WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.
SO MOVING THAT FORWARD, WE WILL HAVE SOME INFORMATION PROBABLY IN THE NEXT MONTH.
SO WE'RE FAST MOVING IN THE BACKGROUND.
MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS, DANIEL KELLY, CITY MANAGER.
SO LIKE ED SAYS, I'M JUST GOING TO TALK REAL BRIEFLY ABOUT OUR PRE-SEASON PREPARATIONS.
SO JUNE 14TH, WE'RE GOING TO TEST THE MUSEUM SIRENS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE REAL WEATHER.
WE ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO GO TO THE COCONINO COUNTY WEBSITE, FORWARD SLASH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, LOOK UP WHAT ZONE YOU LIVE IN, FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THE ZONE AND THEN WHILE YOU'RE THERE, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, SIGN UP FOR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS.
IT DOES NEED TO BE RENEWED ANNUALLY.
THE CITY HAS AND ITS PARTNERS HAVE DONE FANTASTIC WORK, AS YOU KNOW, ON FLOOD MITIGATION EFFORTS, AND THEREFORE, THE CITY RESIDENTS GET A 25% DISCOUNT AUTOMATICALLY APPLIED TO THEIR INSURANCE PREMIUM, AND I WILL PASS IT OVER TO JENNA.
MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
I'M REPRESENTING THE CLIMATE SECTION IN THE FLAGSTAFF SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE.
I'M HONORED TO BE PRESENTING ALONGSIDE SO MANY EXPERTS AND COLLEAGUES FROM ACROSS THE CITY, AND ALTHOUGH I CANNOT TAKE ANY CREDIT FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT, I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE TO SHARE INFORMATION ON A SMALL GRANT PROGRAM AIMED AT SAFEGUARDING FLAGSTAFF HOMES FROM FLOOD DAMAGE. FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS, BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS AND RENTERS, ARE ENCOURAGED TO APPLY FOR A GRANT OF UP TO $5,000 PER HOUSEHOLD THROUGH THE CITY'S FLOOD PREVENTION GRANT PROGRAM.
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EXPENSES. CURRENTLY, GRANT FUNDING CAN BE USED FOR SEVERAL ESSENTIAL FLOOD PREVENTION TECHNIQUES FOR YOUR HOME.THIS INCLUDES FLOOD GATES, SO FLOOD GATES ARE HARD BARRIERS DESIGNED TO PREVENT WATER SEEPAGE THROUGH THE WINDOWS OR DOORS OF YOUR HOME.
THEY'RE A LIGHTWEIGHT AND EFFECTIVE SOLUTION.
THEY CAN BE PERMANENT OR TEMPORARY, SO YOU CAN QUICKLY SET THEM UP WHEN NEEDED.
THEY'RE USEFUL, EASY AND LIGHT.
ANOTHER OPTION THROUGH THE GRANT IS SEALANTS.
SO THESE ARE THIS IS PARTICULARLY FOR HOMES CONSTRUCTED OF CINDERBLOCK WALLS OR SLAB FOUNDATIONS, AND SEALANTS CAN REALLY SERVE AS A GOOD LINE OF DEFENSE FOR WATER INFILTRATION FOR THOSE SPECIFIC TYPES OF HOMES, AND THEY CAN BE APPLIED THROUGH PAINTING OR SPRAYING TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL PROTECTION. THE LAST OPTION IS A TEMPORARY FLOOD BARRIER, AND SO THIS IS FOR SITUATIONS WHEN FLOODING MIGHT THREATEN A LARGER AREA OF YOUR HOME.
THEY HAVE A LONGER LIFESPAN AND CAN BE DEPLOYED MUCH FASTER FOR AN EASIER MEANS OF FLOOD PROTECTION.
SO APPLYING FOR THE FLOOD PREVENTION GRANT IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND HOPEFULLY ACCESSIBLE.
IT TAKES MOST PEOPLE LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES TO APPLY.
YOU CAN UTILIZE OUR ONLINE APPLICATION PORTAL, WHICH IS THAT FIRST LINK ON THE SLIDE.
IT'S FLAGSTAFF.AZ.GOV BACKSLASH FLOOD PROOF.
WE HAVE PAPER COPIES THERE AND CAN ALSO HELP YOU APPLY.
APPLICATIONS ARE OPEN RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE PROCESSING THEM ON A ROLLING BASIS, SUBJECT TO AVAILABLE FUNDING.
SO WE ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS WHO ARE AT RISK FOR FLOODING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT THEIR HOMES. ON OUR WEBSITE, YOU CAN ALSO FIND A TON OF INFORMATION ON MATERIALS.
WE HAVE PICTURES OF ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MATERIALS.
YOU CAN SET UP APPOINTMENTS WITH ANY OF US TO ASK QUESTIONS.
SO REALLY WE WANT THIS PROGRAM TO BE YOU KNOW, EASY AND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET OUT, YOU KNOW, HELP INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO MORE IN DEPTH OUTREACH, SIMILAR TO HOW WE DID LAST YEAR OF GOING DOOR TO DOOR. WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOME MAILERS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY WITH THE HELP FROM OUR FRIENDS OVER IN STORM WATER, GETTING THOSE MAILING LISTS AND EVEN SOME HOPEFULLY FUN EVENTS WHERE WE CAN SHOW SOME OF THESE WAYS THAT YOU CAN PROTECT YOUR HOME FROM FLOODING.
AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR THAT.
WE WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE.
WHAT IS THE WEB ADDRESS? IF PEOPLE WANT TO PERUSE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS? THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT WEB ADDRESSES.
IT'S A FEW BACKSLASHES THERE, BUT YOU CAN GET TO IT FROM THE STORM WATER PAGE.
GREAT. SARAH LANGLEY POSTED FLAGSTAFF AZ.GOV BACKSLASH PIPELINE WEST.
I KNEW SHE WAS ON IT, AND CAN YOU RECONFIRM THE WATER PRESSURE ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOVE GRANDVIEW? IT'S THIS THURSDAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE LOWERED.
8 TO 5. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND SINCE I'M STANDING UP HERE, MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, ONE IMPORTANT THING I FAILED TO MENTION IS THAT ALTHOUGH WE HAVE IN THE SPIRIT OF BIKE MONTH, ALTHOUGH LINDA VISTA IS CLOSED, IT IS STILL OPEN TO BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS, AND THAT WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT CONSTRUCTION.
SO FOLKS WANTING TO DO BIKE TO WORK WEEK OR BIKE TO SCHOOL, THEY CAN STILL USE THAT CORRIDOR.
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WONDERFUL. THANK YOU.THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL, I WANT TO THANK ALL WHO PRESENTED AND ALSO THE MANY PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE WORK BEHIND THE PRESENTATIONS. I WANT TO THANK JENNA WITH SUSTAINABILITY FOR UPDATING ON THE GRANT PROGRAM, WHICH IS A GREAT PROGRAM, AND I THINK SUSTAINABILITY MIGHT ALSO BE ABLE TO ONCE AGAIN PLAY ANOTHER ROLE IN THIS.
MY SUGGESTION TO ED SCHENCK AND THE TEAM ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER POSSIBLE PROGRAMS FOR REMOVAL OF THE SANDBAGS. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM TO BE SANCTIONED BY THE CITY, AND SUSTAINABILITY HELPS US OVERSEE THOSE VOLUNTEER EVENTS.
SO KEEP THAT IN MIND, AND, IN FACT, PUT ME ON THAT LIST.
I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY WHERE WE CAN GO OUT AND START REMOVING THE SANDBAGS.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT CITYWIDE, BUT SPECIFIC TO 1 OR 2 NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE LAST COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS, IS AGAIN, ANOTHER COMPLIMENT TO THE TEAM, AND I'LL CALL OUT, JULIE LEAD, BUT THERE ARE OTHERS, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE SCENES COUNCIL YOU GET AND MAYOR, YOU GET THE NICE UPDATES HERE, BUT BEHIND THE SCENES, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING ESPECIALLY OUTREACH TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS GET AIR TIME WITH YOU, BUT TRUST ME WHEN I SAY IT IS HAPPENING.
I CAN THINK OF MULTIPLE OCCASIONS WHERE NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY IN THE VICINITY OF LINDA VISTA AND GRANDVIEW, HAVE ASKED FOR INFORMATION RELATED TO EASEMENTS RELATED TO PROPERTY BOUNDARIES RELATED TO SANDBAGS, THE WHOLE SPECTRUM OF TOPICS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND PARDON ME JULIE AND THE TEAM HAS BEEN VERY GRACIOUS WITH THEIR TIME IN MEETING THE NEIGHBORS OUT THERE AND HAVING ONE ON ONE DISCUSSIONS AND WALKING THEM THROUGH THESE DETAILS. SO THE CITY IS SO WELL REPRESENTED HERE, AND I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND OUR APPRECIATION FOR THAT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.
THANK YOU. THIS QUESTION WAS FOR JENNA.
JENNA. I WAS LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE FOR THE GRANT PROGRAM AND NOTICED THE SECTION WHERE IT SAYS TO STAY TUNED FOR GRANT WORKSHOPS OR SCHEDULED OFFICE HOURS.
DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF WHEN THOSE ARE ARE STARTING OR HAVE THEY STARTED ALREADY? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER THEY HAVE NOT STARTED YET.
WE ARE HOPING THAT WE CAN GET SOME SCHEDULED WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK.
WE ARE GRATEFUL TO HAVE A WONDERFUL AMERICORPS MEMBER IN OUR OFFICE WHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE HEPA PROGRAM AND GOT HUNDREDS OF APPLICANTS IN THEIR WRAPPING THAT UP, AND HE'S GOING TO JOIN ME IN HOSTING SOME OF THOSE WORKSHOPS.
COUNCIL. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
I DON'T SEE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
ALL OF YOU, AND I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T SEE YOU HARDLY AT ALL ANYMORE.
WE'LL TRY TO KEEP THE FLOODING AWAY, AND THEN YOU WON'T SEE ME EVEN LESS, BUT WE'LL SEE.
OKAY, AND JUST TO RESTATE WHAT I SAID PREVIOUSLY, FOR ANYONE WHO WASN'T HERE AND DIDN'T HEAR IT BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 13, WHICH IS THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK.
SO NOW WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12 B DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION ON THE AIRPORT.
[B. Discussion and Possible Direction on the Flagstaff Pulliam Airport Air Carrier Incentive Policy STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Discussion and possible direction]
AIR CARRIER INCENTIVE POLICY.HEIDI HANSON, ECONOMIC VITALITY DIRECTOR.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU REALIZE TODAY IS A DIALOG.
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EXCITING. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE DO HAVE ONE CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING SOME UPDATES TO THAT POLICY TO BETTER REFLECT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE INDUSTRY AND POSITION, AS WELL AS WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER AIR CARRIERS ABOUT POTENTIAL NEW AIR SERVICE AT THE FLAGSTAFF.
I'M GOING TO START TODAY BY GOING OVER A BACKGROUND OF AIR SERVICE AT FLAGSTAFF.
SO AMERICAN'S PREDECESSOR, US AIRWAYS, PREVIOUSLY OPERATED A FLAGSTAFF WITH 50 SEAT REGIONAL JETS.
THOSE ARE SMALLER THAN THE 70 SEAT REGIONAL JETS THEY CURRENTLY USE.
BEFORE THAT, IF YOU GO BACK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, WE DID HAVE HORIZON FLIGHTS ON A 76 SEAT TURBOPROP AIRCRAFT THAT FLEW TO LA AND OR PRESCOTT FOR A TIME, BUT THAT WAS NOT A DAILY FLIGHT, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT IT WAS A LARGER AIRCRAFT THAT WAS MORE LIKE A WEEKLY SERVICE.
WE DID HAVE, IF YOU GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK IN THE EARLY OR LATE 90S AND EARLY 2000, WE DID HAVE SERVICE WITH US AIR ON 30 TO 40 SEAT TURBOPROP AIRCRAFT THAT WERE DAILY TO PHOENIX SKY HARBOR.
SO THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE THAT POINTS TOWARD THE STATE OF THE INDUSTRY.
SO IF YOU LOOK BACK OVER THAT HISTORY FROM THE LATE 90S TO TODAY, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS WHAT THEY CALL UP GAUGING MEANING THE AIRCRAFT SIZE IS GETTING LARGER AND THE FREQUENCY OF FLIGHTS IS SCALING BACK.
YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE SEEING FIVE AIRCRAFT ON A 70 SEAT PLANE GOING ON THAT SAME ROUTE.
SO PART OF THAT, WE SAW A LOT OF AIRLINE EMPLOYEES, INCLUDING PILOTS AND OTHER AIRCREW, WERE FURLOUGHED OR TOOK EARLY RETIREMENTS, AND WE'VE SEEN NOW THAT THE AIR TRAVEL INDUSTRY IS REBOUNDED, AIRLINES ARE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE RESTAFFING THOSE PILOTS.
SO AT THIS POINT THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF REGIONAL AIRCRAFT SHUTTERED IN STORAGE.
THAT NUMBER IS COMING DOWN AS PILOTS ARE BEING ADDED, ALTHOUGH WE ARE STILL SEEING SOME LAGGING RESULTS FROM THAT, AND ALSO SOME DELAYS IN AIRCRAFT DELIVERIES THAT HAVE AFFECTED KIND OF A TRICKLE DOWN THROUGH ALL THEIR ROUTES.
CLAIRE HARPER IS GOING TO BE GOING GOING TO BE PRESENTING TO YOU IN A LITTLE BIT SOME UPDATED VERSIONS OF OUR AIR CARRIER INCENTIVE POLICY, BUT SHE'S BEEN LEADING OUR AIR SERVICE ATTRACTION EFFORTS AND INCLUDES GOING TO AIRPORT ROUNDTABLE CONFERENCES, WHERE WE GET TO MEET WITH DIFFERENT AIR CARRIERS AND FIND OUT WHAT THEIR OUTLOOK LOOKS LIKE.
WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR IN CITIES AND AIRPORTS AS PARTNERS AND LEADING TO THINGS LIKE, WHAT KIND OF INCENTIVES SHOULD WE BE, INCLUDING IN OUR POLICY? ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE LATER THIS MONTH ATTENDING AN AIR SERVICE DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE WHERE WE GET TO MEET WITH INDIVIDUAL AIRLINES TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT FLAGSTAFF HAS TO OFFER AND HOW OUR ROUTE CAN FIT IN THEIR SERVICE.
WE'VE ALSO UPDATED OUR PASSENGER DEMAND ANALYSIS, WHICH IS A STUDY THAT WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO DO TO SHOW WHICH AIRPORTS, WHICH ROUTES PEOPLE ARE ULTIMATELY COMING FROM TO GET TO FLAGSTAFF AND WHERE PEOPLE FROM FLAGSTAFF ARE ULTIMATELY GOING WHEN THEY TRAVEL.
NOW, AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS AN UPDATE TO AN EXISTING POLICY.
THE PREVIOUS AIR CARRIER INCENTIVE POLICY WAS ADOPTED IN 2019 OR WAS WRITTEN IN 2019, I SHOULD SAY, AND THAT POLICY INCLUDED WAIVING OF LANDING FEES FOR UP TO 12 MONTHS. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE STILL INCLUDE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT, BUT WITH A FEW ADDITIONS.
NOW THIS COMES BACK TO MAYBE THE QUESTION OF WHY.
WHY ARE WE BRINGING THIS TODAY? WHY ARE WE TAKING THE TIME TO UPDATE THIS POLICY? AND THE BIG THING TO REMEMBER IS, FIRST OFF, TRAVEL OPPORTUNITIES FOR BOTH OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR VISITORS COMING TO FLAGSTAFF IS REALLY AN OVERALL BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND THE REGION OF BRINGING IN TOURISTS, BRINGING IN OTHER VISITORS AND GIVING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS OF THE REGION TO BE ABLE TO TRAVEL ELSEWHERE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DO GET DIRECT FUNDING FROM AIR CARRIERS WHEN THEY LEASE SPACE AND OPERATE AT THE AIRPORT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE GET LEASES FROM THOSE AIR CARRIERS FOR THE SPACE THEY USE HERE AT THE AIRPORT TERMINAL BUILDING.
BUT WE ALSO GET A LOT OF INDIRECT FUNDING FROM AIR SERVICE TO THE AIRPORT.
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WE ALSO GET PARKING REVENUE.SO THE MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE FLYING OUT OF FLAGSTAFF, THE MORE PEOPLE WE HAVE PARKING AT OUR PARKING LOTS AND THE ASSOCIATED REVENUE ALONG WITH THAT, IN ADDITION TO THINGS LIKE CAR RENTAL REVENUE. SO IF PEOPLE ARE RENTING CARS FROM FLAGSTAFF THROUGH OUR AGREEMENTS WITH THE CAR RENTAL COMPANIES, WE DO SEE A PERCENTAGE OF THAT AS WELL.
SO THERE ARE BOTH INDIRECT AND DIRECT WAYS THAT WE GET REVENUE FROM OUR AIRLINE PARTNERS.
NOW AN EMPLOYMENT IS A PAYING PASSENGER DEPARTING ON A COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT.
THOSE ARE BOTH THINGS CLAIRE IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN OUR SET OF POLICY IN JUST A FEW MINUTES HERE.
NOW. NEXT, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR TRENDS WITHIN PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN.
SO HERE'S THE GRAPH. LOOKING BACK TO 2016, SHOWING WHERE PAYMENTS HAVE GONE OVER THE YEARS.
SO YOU CAN SEE FROM 2016 TO 2018, WE HELD PRETTY STEADY BETWEEN ABOUT 67,000 AND THE LOW 70,000.
RANGE NOW IN 2019 WAS WHEN WE ADDED THAT SERVICE TO DENVER.
NOW, OF COURSE, IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT, WE HAD TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE COVID PANDEMIC, WHICH DROPPED US BACK INTO THE MID 60,000 FOR 2020 BEFORE REBOUNDING TO ABOUT 117,000IN 2021.
SO STILL A STRONG YEAR THERE IN 2023.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST FULL YEAR WE HAD SINCE THAT UNITED SERVICE LEFT.
SO 2023, DESPITE UNITED LEAVING, WAS STILL BUSIER THAN EVERY YEAR BEFORE 2019.
THIS YEAR OUR PAYMENTS ARE TRACKING PRETTY CLOSELY WITH 2023, SO WE EXPECT THEM TO BE SIMILAR TO THE NUMBERS WE SAW LAST YEAR, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE BIG TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS GRAPH FOR ME IS THAT OUR REGION, THE FLAGSTAFF AIRPORT, THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, HAD THE NEED FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL SEATS.
SO WHEN WE HAVE THOSE FLIGHTS THERE, WE WERE FILLING THEM, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS SHOWN IN THOSE 2019 AND 2021 YEARS, WHICH GOES BACK TO OUR EFFORTS TO ATTRACT ADDITIONAL AIR SERVICE TO FLAGSTAFF.
WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CLAIRE HARPER, WHO'S GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROPOSED INCENTIVES AND THE DETAILS OF OUR PROPOSED AIR CARRIER INCENTIVE POLICY. THANKS, BRIAN.
GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CLAIRE HARPER, AIRPORT COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER.
SO AIRPORTS OF ALL SIZES USE AIR CARRIER INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT NEW SERVICE.
WHEN CREATING OUR POLICY, WE BENCHMARKED OUR PROPOSED POLICY WITH OTHER SIMILAR SIZED REGIONAL AIRPORTS, FINDING THAT AIRPORTS OUR SIZE TYPICALLY WAIVE FEES FOR TWO YEARS AND INCLUDE MARKETING FUNDS LIKE OUR POLICY DOES.
THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION PUBLISHED NEW AIR CARRIER INCENTIVE POLICY GUIDANCE IN DECEMBER OF 2023, AND OUR POLICY REFLECTS THESE UPDATES, AND OUR INCENTIVES ARE AVAILABLE TO BOTH NEW CARRIERS STARTING SERVICE AND TO OUR INCUMBENT CARRIER IF THEY WISH TO ADD A NEW ROUTE, AND AMERICAN AIRLINES IS OUR INCUMBENT CARRIER CURRENTLY OFFERING SERVICE TO PHOENIX AND DALLAS, FORT WORTH AND ANY OTHER AIRLINE WOULD BE A NEW CARRIER, AND THEN WE HAVE THREE SCENARIOS WHERE THE INCENTIVES WOULD BE OFFERED.
THE FIRST IS A NEW CARRIER ADDING SERVICE MORE THAN FOUR DAYS PER WEEK.
THE SECOND IS A NEW CARRIER ADDING SERVICE THREE DAYS OR LESS PER WEEK, AND THEN THE FINAL IS OUR INCUMBENT CARRIER ADDING A NEW ROUTE.
MOVING ON TO THE INCENTIVES FOR OUR NEW CARRIER FOR ADDING SERVICE FOR MORE THAN FOUR DAYS PER WEEK.
SO IF A NEW CARRIER IS LOOKING TO ADD SERVICE MORE THAN FOUR TIMES PER WEEK, WE WOULD WAIVE LANDING FEES, OFFICE, TICKET COUNTER AND GATE RENT FOR 24 MONTHS, AND THEN WE WOULD OFFER UP TO 75,000 IN MARKETING ASSISTANCE FUNDS, AND DURING OUR RECENT CONVERSATIONS WITH AIRLINES, THEY'VE EMPHASIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF MARKETING FUNDS AND INCENTIVE POLICIES.
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MARKETING FUNDS ARE NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT SEATS ARE FILLED AND THAT THE ROUTE CONTINUES TO BE SUCCESSFUL, AND HERE YOU'LL SEE SOME EXAMPLES OF CURRENT MARKETING FOR THE AIRPORT AND OUR ROUTES.MOVING ON TO A NEW CARRIER, ADDING SERVICE THREE TIMES A WEEK OR LESS.
YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE TIERED INCENTIVES BASED ON LEVEL OF SERVICE, AND WE DID THIS BECAUSE WE WANTED OUR POLICY TO APPEAL TO ALL CARRIERS, WHICH MAY INCLUDE THOSE INTERESTED IN INITIALLY OFFERING LESS THAN DAILY SERVICE WITH POTENTIAL TO EXPAND SERVICE BASED ON DEMAND.
SO THE INCENTIVES FOR NEW SERVICE ONE DAY PER WEEK WOULD BE A 25% WAIVER OF AIRPORT FEES, AND THEN WE WOULD OFFER UP TO $22,500 IN MARKETING ASSISTANCE FUNDS FOR THE FIRST 24 MONTHS.
FOR NEW SERVICE TWO DAYS PER WEEK, WE WOULD WAIVE AIRPORT FEES BY 50%, AND WE WOULD OFFER UP TO 3700 $500 AVAILABLE IN MARKETING ASSISTANCE FUNDS FOR THE FIRST 24 MONTHS.
FOR SERVICE THREE DAYS PER WEEK, IT WOULD BE A 75% WAIVER OF AIRPORT FEES, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE UP TO $56,250 AVAILABLE FOR MARKETING FUNDS TO USE FOR THAT FIRST 24 MONTHS, AND THEN OUR FINAL SCENARIO IS AN INCUMBENT CARRIER ADDING A NEW ROUTE.
SO THAT WOULD BE AMERICAN AIRLINES ADDING A NEW ROUTE OR DESTINATION, AND THAT INCENTIVE WOULD BE WAIVING LANDING FEES FOR THE NEW ROUTE ONLY FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS, AND THEN WE WOULD PUT $10,000 IN MARKETING ASSISTANT FUNDS TOWARDS THE NEW DESTINATION OR ROUTE.
NOW I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO BRIAN.
THANKS, CLAIRE. SO AS CLAIRE MENTIONED, WE TRIED TO DO IS UPDATE THIS POLICY IN A WAY THAT RESPONDS TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY, SPECIFICALLY THOSE SERVICES OR THOSE AIR CARRIERS THAT MIGHT BE LOOKING AT LESS THAN DAILY SERVICE IN A WAY THAT'S TIERED TO INCENTIVIZE MORE SERVICE, BUT ALSO NOT SHUT THE DOOR ON AIR CARRIERS THAT MIGHT HAVE LESS. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, OUR PREVIOUS AIR CARRIER INCENTIVE POLICY WAS RELATIVELY SHORT AND WAS FOCUSED MAINLY ON WAIVING THOSE FEES FOR NEW ENTRANT CARRIERS, NO MATTER WHAT THE THEIR SERVICE FREQUENCY WAS.
SO TODAY WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OPEN DISCUSSION, SEE IF WE HAVE ANY FEEDBACK, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE IDEAS WE PUT FORTH HERE.
DEPENDING ON WHAT WE HEAR FROM FROM THIS GROUP, WE WILL FINALIZE AND PUBLISH THAT POLICY, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO PRESENT TO POTENTIAL AIR CARRIERS AS WE MOVE INTO DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT POTENTIAL SERVICE OF FLAGSTAFF.
THANK YOU, BRIAN, AND THANK YOU, CLAIRE.
WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.
THANK YOU, BRIAN, CLAIRE AND HEIDI.
THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY FEEDBACK AND IT'S NOT A CONCERN.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT IMPACT DO THESE INCENTIVES AND THE PURSUIT OF ADDITIONAL ENPLANEMENTS AND SO FORTH HAVE ON POTENTIAL TICKETING PRICING? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S ALWAYS KIND OF BEEN A CONCERN FOR FLYING OUT OF FLAGSTAFF IS JUST THE RATE OF TICKETS BASED ON BEING A SMALLER MUNICIPAL AIRPORT. DOES THIS HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THAT? YOU KNOW, THE AIR CARRIER TICKET PRICING IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S ALMOST LIKE A MAGIC EIGHT BALL SOMETIMES, LIKE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY IT'S DOING AND WHY IT SHAKES OUT THE WAY IT DOES CAN BE CHALLENGING, BUT I DO THINK THE ONE THING THAT WE'VE SEEN, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THE FAA ENCOURAGES AIRPORTS TO ENCOURAGE COMPETITION, IS THAT THE MORE COMPETITION YOU HAVE AT ANY ONE FACILITY, THE MORE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE PRICES COME DOWN.
AND SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TRADITIONALLY SEEN IN THE PAST KIND OF ACROSS THE INDUSTRY, WHICH IS IF YOU CAN GET MORE THAN ONE CARRIER TO PLACE POTENTIALLY EVEN MORE THAN TWO YOU START TO SEE WHEN PEOPLE HAVE MORE OPTIONS TO GET TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
GENERALLY THEY START TO DRIVE DOWN PRICES OR INCREASE FREQUENCY IN ORDER TO COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER.
SO THAT'S A KIND OF A GENERAL STATEMENT.
I THINK IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING TO SAY BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME OTHER FACTORS THAT GO INTO IT.
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILMEMBER MATTHEWS.
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NEED FOR SOME OF THE AIRLINES THAT WERE TRYING TO ATTRACT IS THERE ANY IMPROVEMENTS WE NEED TO DO TO OUR RUNWAYS TO SUPPORT DIFFERENT AIRBUSES AND PLANES? YEAH. GREAT QUESTION.FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE OPERATING REGIONAL JETS.
NOW, THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.
FOR EXAMPLE, SOME AIR CARRIERS DON'T HAVE A REGIONAL ROUTE.
I'LL USE SOUTHWEST AS AN EXAMPLE.
THEIR PART OF THEIR BUSINESS MODEL IS THEY USE A SINGULAR SINGLE AIRCRAFT FLEET.
OUR, OUR AIRPORT CAN GENERALLY ACCOMMODATE THOSE AIRCRAFT DEPENDING ON THE CONFIGURATION.
SO ANYTIME WE GET A REQUEST FOR A LARGER THAN OUR TYPICAL AIRCRAFT TO COME IN, WE ANALYZE OUR PAVEMENT STRENGTH VERSUS THE WHEEL LOADING THAT PARTICULAR AIRCRAFT PUTS ON OUR FACILITIES, AND TO DATE SOME AIRCRAFT OF A LARGER SIZE MIGHT REQUIRE SOME WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE OUT OF THE REALM OF WHAT THESE AIR CARRIERS WOULD BE OPERATING IN.
OUR BIGGEST NEED FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, IS ACTUALLY INSIDE THE TERMINAL FACILITIES.
SO RIGHT NOW, OUR BIGGEST LIMITING FACTOR IS THE CAPACITY OF SEATS IN OUR HOLD ROOM.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF 2 OR 3 AIRCRAFT SHOW UP AT THE SAME TIME, HOW CAN THAT ACCOMMODATE THAT? SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 210 TO 215 SEATS IN OUR PASSENGER HOLDING AREA.
SO. SO YOU ADDED ONE OF OUR REGIONAL JETS.
YOU COULD VERY EASILY OVER PUT THAT ROOM OVER CAPACITY.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE APPLIED FOR SOME GRANT FUNDING FOR.
SO FAR, WE'VE NOT BEEN AS SUCCESSFUL IN RECEIVING ANY GRANT FUNDING THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO EXPAND THAT HOLD ROOM, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING INTO, I THINK, FROM ENABLING THE AIRPORT TO HANDLE ANY OF THE PROSPECTIVE CARRIERS WE'RE TALKING TO.
WE'RE IN A REALLY GOOD PLACE FOR MOST OF THE FOR REALLY ALL THE REGIONAL CARRIERS.
WE START TO GET INTO THE MAINLINE ONES.
THANK YOU, AND THEN MY COMMENT WAS THAT I'M VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF THIS INCENTIVE.
I'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO DIFFERENT CITIES IN THE PAST THAT WERE OFFERING NOT FOR AIRPORTS, BUT DIFFERENT INCENTIVES TO HELP THEIR ECONOMIC GROWTH AND VITALITY AND, AND JUST EXPANDING US TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO AIRLINES FLYING IN WOULD HELP OUR CITY AS A WHOLE AND OUR TRAVEL, AS WELL AS CITIZENS OF FLAGSTAFF.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, AND I'LL GIVE A THUMBS UP TO IT RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
IS THERE A LENGTH OF TIME THAT WE ASK THE AIRLINES TO GUARANTEE TO STAY IN FLAGSTAFF IN EXCHANGE FOR AN INCENTIVE? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, MAYOR.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. SO CLAIRE AND HEIDI CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, BUT I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT WE ARE NOT ADDING A LENGTH OF TIME REQUIRED FOR THEM TO STAY IN FLAGSTAFF, PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF THE VOLATILITY WE'RE SEEING IN THE AIRCRAFT INDUSTRY.
ONE OF THE OR IN THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY SPECIFICALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE SEEING IS THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT ARE VERY MUCH IN FLUX, AND SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET THEM TO SIGN ON TO A LEASE TO COME OPERATE IN AN AIRPORT IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO FULFILL THAT LEASE.
SO TO DATE, WE HAVE NOT PROPOSED ADDING A LENGTH OF TIME TO IT, THOUGH WE HAVE ADDED A A A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF BENEFIT BASED ON TIME. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF AN AIR CARRIER CAME HERE AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A LEASE FOR A YEAR AND THEN LEFT FOR SIX MONTHS AND WANTED TO COME RIGHT BACK, THAT WOULD BE PROHIBITED. I THINK THERE'S A 20 IT'S EITHER A 24 OR 36 MONTH PROHIBITION ON TAKING THOSE INCENTIVES AGAIN IF THEY'VE TERMINATED SERVICE.
CLEAR, HEIDI. DID I MISS ANYTHING THERE? YOU DID A GREAT JOB, BRIAN.
MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT WHEN BARNEY HELMICK, OUR PREVIOUS AIRPORT DIRECTOR, AND I WERE WORKING ON SECURING AIR SERVICE BEFORE, AND WE WERE LUCKY IN GETTING UNITED, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE DOING WERE TRYING TO GET A DIFFERENT ROUTE.
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DO WAS NOT GET SOMEBODY THAT WANTED TO FLY THE SAME ROUTE AT DIFFERENT TIMES, BUT TO GO IN A DIRECTION THAT, YOU KNOW WE NEEDED FOR CONNECTION, YOU KNOW, THE EAST COAST, THINGS LIKE THAT.SO PART OF WHAT WE DO IS IF THE ROUTE IS, IS WHAT WE NEED, THE INCENTIVES MAKE EVEN MORE SENSE.
SO THAT'S WHAT CLAIRE AND BRIAN WILL BE WORKING ON WHEN THEY GO TO JUMP START, WHICH IS A HUGE SPEED DATING CONFERENCE THAT WOULD BLOW YOUR MIND IF YOU WERE THERE, BUT THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT BEING SPECIFIC ON THE CONNECTIONS THAT WE NEED SO THAT THE INCENTIVES MAKE THAT MUCH MORE SENSE.
I DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE UPDATE AND FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK TO SECURE A SECOND AIRLINE.
ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE MOVE INTO ITEM NUMBER 13, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK.
SO LET'S SAY, WELL, 12, 11 MINUTES, LET'S SAY 450.
OKAY. WE ARE READY TO GET STARTED.
WE ARE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 13.
[13. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS After discussion and upon agreement by three members of the Council, an item will be moved to a regularly-scheduled Council meeting. The City Council will take public comment on Items 13A and 13B together at the beginning of this section.]
A AND B FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS, AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON BOTH OF THESE AT THE SAME TIME.SO I AM GOING TO INVITE THE APPLICANT OF THE SECOND PETITION UP, AND HE HAS INDICATED THAT HE HAS TEN PEOPLE HERE WITH HIM WHO HAVE AGREED NOT TO SPEAK ON THEIR OWN IN ORDER TO HAVE MORE TIME FOR THE APPLICANT. SO I'M GOING TO GIVE TEN MINUTES AND I APOLOGIZE.
I AM DEFINITELY GOING TO GET THIS LAST NAME WRONG, DOCTOR JOHN.
WELL, AND THEN EVERYONE WHO HAS SIGNED ON WITH HIM.
WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND UP? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
BEFORE I START, MAY I REQUEST THE FULL 15 MINUTES JUST TO MAKE SURE I FINISH? I DON'T THINK I'LL TAKE THAT LONG, BUT COULD I ASK FOR THAT? CERTAINLY. ALL RIGHT.
OKAY. GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS AND MAYOR DOCTOR JOHN VARGAS AND I AM A FLAGSTAFF RESIDENT.
THEY USE WORDS LIKE NEVER AGAIN, WHICH REFERENCE TO THE HOLOCAUST.
THINKING IT IS SMART PROPAGANDA.
SO IF I ASKED YOU IF WE SHOULD DISCUSS IF KIDNAPING SHOULD BE OKAY TO DISCUSS OR MURDER OR RAPE OR TORTURE, WOULD THESE BE OKAY TO DISCUSS TO DISCUSSION, MAKING ALL OF THEM LEGAL OR ACCEPTABLE? ALL OF WHICH HAPPEN IN AN EXTREME, VIOLENT AND CRUEL WAYS ON OCTOBER 7TH.
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PUNISH THOSE THAT DID THIS TO YOU.
USUALLY, THEY SAY, MOSTLY WOMEN AND CHILDREN THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED IN GAZA BY ISRAEL IN THIS WAR.
INTERESTINGLY, HOW THEY DO NOT SEPARATE THE TERRORISTS OF HAMAS FROM THE CIVILIANS IN THESE NUMBERS.
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ALTHOUGH SOME MAY NOT BELIEVE IT.DO YOU? DOCTOR PHIL SAID IT VERY WELL.
NO YOU DON'T. NO YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO LOOK AT ANYTHING ELSE TO KNOW.
WHAT HAPPENED ON OCTOBER 7TH WAS EVIL AND WRONG, BUT LET US TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HISTORY.
SINCE I HAVE I HAVE THE TIME THANKS TO EVERYBODY GIVING ME THAT.
SO THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT 1948, WHICH MORE ACCURATELY, ACCURATELY WOULD BE 1947, BUT WHILE WE ONLY GOING BACK THAT FAR, IF WE SHOULD LOOK AT HISTORY, WE SHOULD GO FURTHER BACK.
I'M JUST GOING TO GO VERY QUICKLY THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF IT.
TO 1200 BC, THE CANAANITE EMPIRE.
THERE'S NO PALESTINIAN STATE 1200 BC TO 1004 BC.
JUDGES PERIOD NO PALESTINIAN STATE 1004 BC TO 586 BC.
THE KINGDOM OF ISRAEL OR JUDEA AND SAMARIA AGAIN.
NO PALESTINIAN STATE 586 BC TO 332 BC THE PERSIAN EMPIRE.
THE HELLENISTIC EMPIRE, THAT IS ALEXANDER THE GREAT.
167 BC TO 63 BC WAS THE HASMONEAN EMPIRE AGAIN NO PALESTINIAN STATE, AND THEN 63 BC TO 324 AD WAS THE ROMAN EMPIRE THAT WAS INITIALLY GENERAL POMPEII, STILL NO PALESTINIAN STATE, AND SO ON AND SO ON UNTIL MORE.
I'M GOING TO JUMP AHEAD A LITTLE BIT.
1516 80 TO 1917 AD WAS THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE AND, AS I SAID, 1917 AD.
NO PALESTINIAN STATE 1917 80 TO 1948.
I COULD JUST SAY IT THAT WAY NOW.
BRITISH MANDATE STILL NO PALESTINIAN STATE.
ALSO, THE FIRST TEMPLE JEW JEWISH ISRAELI TEMPLE WAS BUILT IN 1957 BC BY KING SOLOMON AND DESTROYED IN 586 BC BY NEBUCHADNEZZAR, THE KING OF BABYLON.
THE SECOND TEMPLE WAS BUILT BETWEEN 538 BC TO 350 BC.
WE CAN'T BE EXACTLY SURE EXACTLY WHEN, AND IT WAS DESTROYED IN 70 A.D..
AL-AQSA MOSQUE THAT SITS RIGHT NOW ON TABLE ON TEMPLE MOUNT WAS BUILT AT 685 TO 715 AD AFTER ALL OF THAT, DURING ALL THESE PERIODS, AFTER MANY JEWS WERE FORCIBLY REMOVED FROM THEIR LAND, MANY REMAINED AND MANY RETURNED.
THROUGH THE AGES THEY HAVE BEEN.
THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN JEWS IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL, EVEN WHEN IT WAS COLONIZED IN 1948 OR 47, WHEN ACCURATELY, WE SIMPLY OFFICIALLY GOT OUR STATEHOOD BACK, AND YET WE ARE ACCUSED OF BEING THE COLONIZERS.
HOW CAN JEWS HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THEIR ANCESTRAL LAND THAT HAS ALWAYS HAD JEWS IN IT? LET'S LOOK AT VERY RECENT HISTORY.
1947. THERE WAS THE UN PARTITION PLAN.
THE JEWS JUST BASICALLY GOT INTO THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
IN JUNE OF 1948, ARAB ARMIES SURROUNDING ISRAEL INVADE AND ATTACK IN JULY OF 1948.
ISRAEL ISRAELI ARMY COUNTERATTACKS EGYPT, JORDAN, LEBANON AND SYRIA THAT ATTACKED IT.
IN 1967 WE KNOW OF THE SIX-DAY WAR, WHERE THE WEST BANK AND GAZA STRIP AND THE SINAI PENINSULA WERE TAKEN IN THE FIRST FOUR DAYS, AND THE GOLAN HEIGHTS IN THE LAST TWO DAYS OF THE WAR.
IN 1982, THE SINAI PENINSULA WAS RETURNED TO EGYPT UNDER A PEACE TREATY.
JORDAN REFUSED TO TAKE BACK THE WEST BANK, WHICH HAD PREVIOUSLY CONTROLLED NOT PALESTINIANS.
JORDAN AND EGYPT REFUSED TO TAKE BACK THE GAZA STRIP, WHICH THEY ORIGINALLY CONTROLLED.
ISRAEL OFFERED THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE LAND MANY TIMES AND WERE REJECTED EVERY SINGLE TIME.
ISRAEL LEFT THE GAZA STRIP IN 2005 AND HOPE OF ALLOWING A TWO STATE SOLUTION.
IN 2006, THE TERRORIST GROUP HAMAS WAS ELECTED.
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ELECTED IN GAZA, ELECTED THE SAME PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR OCTOBER 7TH AND MANY OTHER TERRORIST ATTACKS.SINCE THEY WERE ELECTED, THERE WERE THERE HAVE BEEN NO ELECTIONS.
AS TO TODAY, WE ARE SEEING MORE VIOLENCE AGAINST JEWS AND AMERICANS IN OUR OWN COUNTRY.
THE PRO-PALESTINIAN SUPPORTERS TEAR DOWN AMERICAN FLAGS, BURN THEM AND DEFACE THEM.
THEY ATTACK PEOPLE WHO DO NOT STAND WITH THEM.
THEY HAVE BEEN DENYING JEWISH STUDENTS ACCESS TO CLASSES AT UNIVERSITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY BY FORCE, JUST LIKE THE NAZIS DID, AND I HAVE PICTURES OF THAT. SO YOU CAN HAVE A LOOK IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO APPROACH ME LATER ON.
LOCALLY, THEY SHOUT SLOGANS WHICH CALL FOR ACTUAL GENOCIDE TO MURDER ALL JEWS.
THEY SHOUT, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR REPEATING THIS TO OUR POLICE OFFICERS OVER HERE, BUT THEY SHOUT, PIGS! GO HOME TO THE POLICE, TO THE POLICE OFFICERS AND THE COUNTY SHERIFFS, THE SAME POLICE AND SHERIFFS THAT SERVE AND PROTECT PEOPLE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.
THEY WERE EXERCISING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT LAST WEEK.
IRONIC TO ENJOY THE FREEDOMS IN THE COUNTRY YOU HATE.
THE FREEDOMS THEY WOULD NOT HAVE UNDER A REGIME THEY WANT.
BUT LET ME TRY EDUCATE SOME OF THEM IF THEY ARE WATCHING OR IF THEY HEAR.
YOU WERE TOLD TO LEAVE THE UNIVERSITY GROUNDS BY 2200 HOURS OR 10 P.M., AND YOU DID NOT.
DISTURBING THE PEACE IS A CRIME YOU DO NOT NEED.
YOU DO NOT GET TO INFRINGE ON SOMEONE ELSE'S RIGHTS.
SHOUTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND NOT LETTING STUDENTS AND OTHER RESIDENTS SLEEP IS A CRIME.
THE POLICE AND SHERIFFS DID AN EXCEPTIONAL A PROFESSIONAL JOB THAT EVENING AND EVERY OTHER DAY AND NIGHT SINCE WITH DEALING WITH ALL OF THESE, AND BY THE WAY, THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE. I'M NOT A LAWYER, SO DON'T USE IT THAT WAY.
IN ADDITION TO WHAT I SAID BEFORE, THIS WILL FURTHER DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY.
I WANT TO I WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT I HAVE NOT CALLED ANYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY EVIL.
I ONLY SPOKE TO THEIR ACTIONS AND WORDS.
PEOPLE CAN DO WRONG AND MAKE MISTAKES AND IT DOES NOT MAKE THEM EVIL.
YOUNG KIDS LEARN THIS WHEN THEY MAKE MISTAKES.
THAT DOES. DOES THAT MAKE THEM EVIL? NO. THE YOUNG KIDS IN GAZA THAT ARE BEING TAUGHT HATE AND TO MURDER JEWS.
ARE THEY EVIL? NO, THIS IS CHILD ABUSE.
I'VE HAD A FEW SHORT DISCUSSIONS WITH LOCAL MEMBERS FROM THE PRO-PALESTINIAN SIDE.
I'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM SINCE THEN AND GOT NO RESPONSE.
THEY'RE BEING TOLD TO USE MASKS AND HIDE WHO THEY ARE.
I WILL ASK THEM HERE AND NOW TO CONSIDER THIS.
THERE ARE TWO WAYS FORWARD THROUGH DISCUSSION OR THROUGH MORE VIOLENCE.
I KNOW WHICH OPTION I'D PREFER, AND I'LL LEAVE THE DECISION WITH THEM AS TO WHAT FUTURE THEY WANT.
ALL RIGHT. AS WE MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT, I LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE WHEN WE HAVE HEATED ISSUES WITH A LOT OF REALLY STRONG PASSIONS ON BOTH SIDES THAT WE.
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WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM ALL OF YOU, AND WE WANT EVERY PERSON WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK TO US TO FEEL SAFE IN DOING SO, AND THUS I ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM ANY OUTWARD SIGN OR NOISE OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO WHAT ANYONE WHO APPROACHES US TO SPEAK IS SAYING.SO NEXT UP, WE HAVE RABBI DOVID SHAPIRO.
HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
TODAY, I STAND BEFORE YOU NOT MERELY TO ADVOCATE FOR THE SUPPORT OF ISRAEL, BUT THE CHALLENGE US ALL TO TRULY UNDERSTAND THE STARK CONTRAST BETWEEN THE BEAUTY OF ISRAEL AND THE DARKNESS, EVIL AND BARBARISM OF HAMAS.
ISRAEL IS A VIBRANT DEMOCRACY IN A REGION RIFE WITH TURMOIL.
ISRAEL EMBODIES THE VALUES OF DEMOCRACY, FREEDOM AND HUMAN RIGHTS THAT WE HOLD DEAR.
YET DO WE TRULY APPRECIATE THE BEAUTY AND SIGNIFICANCE OF ISRAEL AND MISS THE CHAOS OF CONFLICT? IN CONTRAST, HAMAS, A DESIGNATED TERRORIST ORGANIZATION BY NUMEROUS NATIONS, INCLUDING THE US.
REPRESENTS THE EPITOME OF DARKNESS AND EVIL.
DO WE FULLY COMPREHEND THE DEPTHS OF HAMAS DEPRAVITY AND ITS RELENTLESS PURSUIT OF DESTRUCTION? HISTORY HAS SHOWN US THAT THE DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES CONSEQUENCES OF SILENCE IN THE FACE OF EVIL.
THE WORLD REMAINS SILENT AS THE NAZI PARTY ROSE TO POWER IN EUROPE, AS A RACIST INCITEMENT SPREAD, AND AS THE ASHES OF MILLIONS OF MILLIONS DARKENED THE SKIES OF THE CONTINENT.
JUST AS THE WORLD WAS SILENT IN THE PAST.
THERE ARE VOICES THAT ADVOCATE FOR SILENCE, OR WORSE, TO SUPPORT HAMAS'S REIGN OF TERROR BY CALLING FOR A CEASE FIRE THAT WILL ONLY EMBOLDEN THE TERRORISTS, BUT WE CANNOT ALLOW HISTORY TO REPEAT ITSELF.
WE CANNOT ALLOW BEAUTY, THE BEAUTY OF ISRAEL, TO BE OVERSHADOWED BY THE DARKNESS OF HAMAS.
DESPITE THE TEMPTATIONS OF INDIFFERENCE, WE MUST CONTINUE TO RAISE OUR VOICES AGAINST INJUSTICE.
LET US NOT BE REMEMBERED AS THE GENERATION THAT REMAINS SILENT, OR WORSE, ADVOCATING FOR EVIL.
LET US BE THE VOICES OF CONSCIENCE, THE GUARDIANS OF TRUTH, AND THE CHAMPIONS OF JUSTICE, AND I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT INNOCENT CHILDREN. WHAT? WHERE IS YOUR COMPASSION FOR THE INNOCENT CHILDREN IN GAZA? WHERE IS YOUR COMPASSION FOR THE INNOCENT CHILDREN IN ISRAEL? IF YOU DEMAND A CEASE FIRE TODAY, IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO BE STANDING IN THE SAME PLACE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT STAND UP FOR EVIL.
YOU STOOD BEHIND THE TERRORISTS AND MADE SURE THAT ISRAEL CANNOT FINISH ITS JOB.
WHAT IT HAS TO DO IF YOU DON'T CUT OFF THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE, IT WILL COME BACK TO BITE YOU.
THAT IS WHAT ISRAEL IS FACED WITH, AND IF YOU HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME FACING THAT MORAL CLARITY, YOU HAVE TO LOOK WITHIN YOURSELF TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DO YOU TRULY STAND FOR? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, DOCTOR EMILY DAVALOS.
I AM SPEAKING AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND ONLY REPRESENT MYSELF.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF FLAGSTAFF FOR 25 YEARS.
I SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.
I DO NOT SUPPORT MCCARTHY'S RESOLUTION.
THAT DOES NOT COME FROM THE COMMUNITY AND IS MISGUIDED ON SEVERAL POINTS.
I ALSO DO NOT SUPPORT AN ERRONEOUS RESOLUTION THAT DISREGARDS INTERNATIONAL LAW.
ISRAEL HAS NO RIGHT TO COMMIT GENOCIDE UNDER THE GUISE OF SELF-DEFENSE.
PLEASE BASE YOUR DECISION ON INTERNATIONAL LAW AND NOT RELIGIOUS BOOKS AND MYTHOLOGY.
YESTERDAY, MAY 6TH, HAMAS ACCEPTED A CEASE FIRE PROPOSAL.
CARPET BOMBING OF CITIES, TOWNS, VILLAGES OR OTHER AREAS CONTAINING A CONCENTRATION OF PROTECTED CIVILIANS HAS BEEN CONSIDERED A WAR CRIME SINCE 1977 THROUGH ARTICLE 51 OF PROTOCOL ONE OF THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS.
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THEY CALL IT MOWING THE LAWN.SINCE AT LEAST 2004, THE ICJ RECOGNIZED ISRAEL AS THE OCCUPYING POWER.
THEY CAN TURN OFF A PEOPLE'S ACCESS TO WATER AND FOOD.
THEY ARE CLEARLY AN OCCUPYING ENTITY.
ISRAEL'S INVOCATION OF THE PRINCIPLE OF SELF-DEFENSE AS AN OCCUPYING POWER IS ILLEGITIMATE AND MUST BE COUNTERED WITH A CLEAR RESPONSE ROOTED IN INTERNATIONAL LAW, THE SAME INTERNATIONAL LAW THAT IT SYSTEMATICALLY BREACHES WITH CONTEMPT, IT HAS THE AUDACITY TO INVOKE WHEN IT DEEMS IT BENEFICIAL TO ITSELF.
ISRAEL, THE OCCUPYING POWER, CANNOT INVOKE ITS SO-CALLED RIGHT TO SELF-DEFENSE TO JUSTIFY THE USE OF EXCESSIVE MILITARY FORCE AGAINST THE BESIEGED PALESTINIAN CIVILIZATION. CIVILIAN POPULATION.
POPULATION IN THE OCCUPIED GAZA STRIP, AS REAFFIRMED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL IN ITS RESOLUTION 1860 2009, THE GAZA STRIP IS AN INTEGRAL, INTEGRAL PART OF THE OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY, INCLUDING EAST JERUSALEM, OCCUPIED BY ISRAEL SINCE 1967.
ISRAEL REMAINS THE OCCUPYING POWER AND IS THUS BOUND BY THE RELEVANT PROVISIONS OF THE FOURTH GENEVA CONVENTION AND ALL OTHER RELEVANT PROVISIONS OF INTERNATIONAL LAW, INCLUDING UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTIONS.
ISRAEL DOES NOT RECOGNIZE PALESTINE AS A STATE.
THERE IS A LEGAL BASIS FOR THE ARMED RESISTANCE THAT TOOK PLACE ON OCTOBER 7TH UNDER PROTOCOL ONE OF THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS, BASED ON THE PRINCIPLE OF SELF-DETERMINATION FOR ALL PEOPLES UNDER FOREIGN AND COLONIAL RULE.
PALESTINIANS HAVE A RIGHT TO ARMED RESISTANCE.
THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER COLONIAL RULE OF ISRAEL SINCE AT LEAST THE NAKBA OF 1947.
UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW, OCCUPYING FORCES HAVE NO RIGHT TO SELF DEFENSE.
TAKE A STAND AGAINST GENOCIDE.
THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE DEBORAH BLOCK.
I AM NEITHER JEWISH NOR ARAB, ISRAELI OR PALESTINIAN, BUT I AM HUMAN, AS ARE THEY.
I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT DEFENSE FOR SELF OR OTHERS IN THE FACE OF AGGRESSION IS SOMETIMES REQUIRED, AS IT WAS IN WORLD WAR TWO, AS IT IS IN UKRAINE, BUT THERE IS ALSO A POINT AT WHICH SELF DEFENSE IS OVERCOME BY VENGEANCE.
VENGEANCE DOES NOT BRING PEACE.
VENGEANCE DOES NOT BRING SECURITY.
DID OUR COUNTRY'S RESPONSE TO 911 BRING PEACE AND SECURITY? NO. IT BROUGHT THE BIRTH OF ISIS OUT OF AL QAEDA AND THE RETURN OF THE TALIBAN TO AFGHANISTAN.
MORE HATRED, MORE VIOLENCE, MORE OTHERING.
THERE IS TRAUMA, FEAR, HATRED AND THE DESIRE FOR REVENGE.
TO HEAR JEWISH ISRAELI POLITICIANS, OTHER PALESTINIANS AS VERMIN WHEN THE EXISTENCE OF THEIR NATION IS ROOTED IN THEIR MURDER AS A PEOPLE CAST AS VERMIN IS BEYOND HEARTBREAKING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY MOVE TOWARD PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE, BUT IT IS THE ONLY SOLUTION.
BOTH ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS DESERVE TO LIVE FREE LIVES.
RADICAL RELIGIOSITY IN BOTH ISRAEL AND PALESTINE MAKE THIS IMPOSSIBLE.
BOTH ANTI-SEMITISM AND ISLAMOPHOBIA ARE POISON.
THERE HAS BEEN SEVEN MONTHS OF SUSTAINED VIOLENCE, INCLUDING THE DESTRUCTION OF PALESTINIAN INFRASTRUCTURE, HOSPITALS AND UNIVERSITIES, TO COMBAT A HIDEOUS IDEOLOGY WHICH INITIATED AN ATTACK ON ISRAEL ON OCTOBER 7TH.
THERE IS NO HUMANITARIAN ZONE IN GAZA.
THERE IS ONLY DEATH BY BULLET, BY BOMB, BY DISEASE OR BY STARVATION.
NETANYAHU HAS NOT MADE RELEASE OF THE HOSTAGES A PRIORITY.
IT IS HIS OWN SKIN HE IS SAVING BY FOMENTING MORE HATRED.
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THE KILLING MUST STOP.WILL WE CHOOSE DEMOCRACY OR WILL WE CHOOSE ILLIBERALISM? THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
MARILYN WISEMAN, AND THEN FREDERICA HALL.
AS A JEW WHOSE GRANDPARENTS LOST MOST OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS IN EUROPE, I HAVE TAKEN THE PHRASE NEVER AGAIN VERY SERIOUSLY MY WHOLE LIFE, BUT I DON'T ONLY APPLY THAT PHRASE TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE, AS BIDEN DID TODAY.
I RECOGNIZE THAT THE CREATION OF ISRAEL, WHICH WAS TO BE A REFUGE FOR PERSECUTED JEWS AND SURVIVORS OF THE HOLOCAUST, WAS ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, THE CAUSE OF THE DESTRUCTION OF THE COMMUNITIES AND LIVES OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE WHO LIVED ON THOSE LANDS FOR CENTURIES.
FOR DECADES. SINCE THEN, THE RIGHTS OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FLAGRANTLY VIOLATED IN ISRAEL AND THE OCCUPIED TERRITORIES, AND MOSTLY DIMINISHED AND IGNORED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
SINCE THE WAR, IN THE KILLING OF 34,000 PEOPLE IN GAZA, ALONG WITH THE DESTRUCTION OF THEIR CITIES AND RETRIBUTION FOR THE MURDERS IN ISRAEL BY HAMAS ON OCTOBER 7TH, WE REALLY CAN NO LONGER IGNORE THE TRAGEDY THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON THERE FOR 75 YEARS.
WE HAVE TO CONFRONT OUR CULPABILITY HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
WE PROVIDE THE BOMBS AND WEAPONS THAT ENABLE THIS DESTRUCTION.
BIDEN ALSO SAID TODAY THAT WE HAVE FORGOTTEN OCTOBER 7TH.
IT'S INCUMBENT ON US HERE IN THE U.S.
TO JOIN WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD, AND URGE OUR GOVERNMENT AND IMMEDIATELY CALL FOR AND FACILITATE A PERMANENT CEASE FIRE AND STOP THIS SENSELESS KILLING. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, FREDERICA HALL AND THEN LAURA FRANKE.
GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL AND THE REST OF EVERYONE.
WHEN GREED HAS BEEN STEADILY DESTROYING OUR DEMOCRACY AND OUR EARTH'S ECOSYSTEMS, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE TO THE DEAD? TO THE ORPHANS, THE BEREAVED, MOTHERS AND FATHERS, THE SISTERS AND BROTHERS AND FRIENDS, THE HOMELESS, AND ALL OF THOSE SUFFERING FROM THE GREED THAT CREATES WAR.
WHAT DIFFERENCE WHETHER THE MAD DESTRUCTION IS WROUGHT UNDER THE NAME OF TOTALITARIANISM, OR THE HOLY NAME, OR LIBERTY OR DEMOCRACY? ALL WAR IS WRONG.
IT'S THE GREATEST FAILURE OF HUMANITY.
VIOLENT EXPLOITATION NEVER BRINGS SUCCESS.
IT ONLY BRINGS MORE WAR AND MORE SUFFERING.
FREEDOM WON THROUGH BLOODSHED OR FRAUD, PROPAGANDA OR LIES IS NO FREEDOM AT ALL.
IT ONLY BREEDS VIOLENCE AND MORE SUFFERING.
THERE IS NO WINNING PEACE WITH WAR.
IT NEVER HAS DONE THAT, AND IT NEVER WILL.
THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET TO PEACE IS THROUGH PEACEFUL MEANS.
THERE IS NO PEACE THROUGH OPPRESSION, RACISM, CLASSISM, ANTI-SEMITISM AND ISLAMOPHOBIA.
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SO I CAN'T SAY THAT WORD CORRECTLY.FOR THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS WE HAVE BEEN AT WAR.
OUR HISTORY DROWNS IN THE BLOOD OF WAR.
IT'S ABOUT TIME WE LEARN TO STOP.
FOR PROFIT WAR IS DESTROYING ANY CHANCE.
WE AS ONE WHOLE WORLD, ONE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAVE OURSELVES FROM CLIMATE DISASTER.
WE JOINTLY CREATED THIS DIFFICULTY.
THERE IS NO ESCAPE FROM THIS TRUTH.
WAR HAS NEVER AND WILL NEVER BRING PEACE.
HUMANITY'S NEVER ENDING WAR IS SUICIDAL.
INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE WAS CREATED SO THAT WE WOULD NEVER HAVE ANOTHER HOLOCAUST, BUT THE DANGEROUS AND SHAMEFUL, WILLFUL DISREGARD OF THE FINDINGS OF THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE ARE OPENING THE FREDERICA TO OUR WORLD HELL.
THANK YOU, LAURA FRANK AND THEN KYLE NOWICKI.
I LIVE IN SUNNYSIDE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA.
AGAIN, I'M GOING TO BRING YOU SOME WORDS FROM MY FRIENDS JOHN RUNNING, SUE BENNETT, PHOTOGRAPHERS HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, WHERE THEY HAVE PHOTOGRAPHED IN PALESTINE AND SURROUNDING AREAS.
THE BOOK IS FROM I AM PALESTINE.
TODAY. TODAY, AMERICA STANDS NEARLY ALONE IN THE WORLD IN A WHOLESALE SUPPORT OF ISRAEL POLICIES AND A CONTINUAL DENIAL OF LEGITIMATE NEEDS OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.
WHY? WE DO NOT ACCEPT THE NOTION THE WESTERN WORLD CAN SOMEHOW MAKE UP FOR THE HOLOCAUST BY GIVING PALESTINIANS TO THE JEWS, AND IN DOING MAKE REFUGEES OF 4 MILLION PALESTINIANS.
WE PROTESTED CONTINUED AMERICAN SUBSIDIZATION OF ISRAELI GOVERNMENT POLICY OF ATTACK.
OCCUPY ANNEX AND CRY FOR PEACE.
AFTERWARDS WE ARBOR THE IDEA OF AMERICAN MADE PHANTOMS. ARE BEING USED TO DROP AMERICAN MADE PHOSPHORUS AND CLUSTER BOMBS ON PEOPLE LIVING IN REFUGEE CAMPS.
PIT PITCHERS ALONE CANNOT BRING CHANGE, AND WE'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF PITCHERS LATELY.
THE PREMISE OF OUR WORK REMAINS UNCHANGED.
PEOPLE NEED A PERMANENT HOME IN THEIR ORIGINAL HOMELAND, AND NOW I ASK FOR A PERMANENT CEASEFIRE.
IF YOU CAN, PLEASE TAKE ACTION AND PASS THE PERMANENT CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION.
I'M HERE TODAY AS THE CO-EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ARIZONA STUDENTS ASSOCIATION, WHERE THE LARGEST UNDERGRADUATE STUDENT ASSOCIATION IN THE STATE AND REPRESENT HALF A MILLION STUDENTS. OUR STUDENTS HAVE MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO US THAT WE NEED TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
I ACTUALLY TOOK THE LAST WEEK OFF TO GO TO FLORIDA.
I THOUGHT NOW FINALS WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD WEEK TO TAKE OFF FOR STUDENT ACTIVISM.
WHAT HAPPENED NOW? LAST WEEK, I WAS ABLE TO WATCH THE LIVE STREAM IN PHOENIX AND A LUMBERJACK DID A GREAT JOB.
SJP WAS ON ONE SIDE AND I GOT TO LIKE, SEE THE OTHER STREAM FROM AN OLD PROFESSOR, SO I FELT LIKE I WAS THERE EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T, AND WHAT THE FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE NIU POLICE DEPARTMENT DID TO THOSE STUDENTS WAS DISGUSTING, AND IT MAKES ME SICK.
THE CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION IS AN EASY WHATEVER.
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YOU NEED TO MEET WITH PRESIDENT CRUZ AND STUDENT LEADERS WHO WERE ARRESTED AND TALK TO THEM.THIS SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING IN YOUR CITY.
I WISH I TOOK MORE TIME TO WRITE THIS DOWN PROPERLY, BUT.
PAST THE CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION AND THEN DO MORE.
DON KELLER AND THEN KELLEN KELLEY.
EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
IN THE SIX WEEKS SINCE THE COUNCIL FIRST HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC.
THE WORLD CONTINUES TO BE SHOCKED BY THE LEVEL AND INTENSITY OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION IN GAZA.
THE MOST IDEALISTIC AMONG US YOUNG STUDENTS, YOUNGER STUDENTS ARE EXPRESSING THEIR SHOCK AND OUTRAGE, EVEN IN THE FACE OF THE OLDER ESTABLISHMENT'S DETERMINATION TO SUPPRESS AND RATIONALIZE IT IN GAZA.
TWO THIRDS OF ALL THESE ARE WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
WITH VIRTUALLY ALL INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION DESTROYED, ENTIRE LARGE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN FLATTENED, 146 JOURNALISTS KILLED, MAJOR HOSPITALS AND HEALTH SUPPORT SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN DESTROYED, WITH FAMINE AND DISEASE WIDESPREAD, NECESSARY AID ABSENT OR WHOLLY INADEQUATE.
THE ISRAELI MILITARY ITSELF HAS LOST 612 MEMBERS SINCE OCTOBER 7TH.
CHIEF AMONG THESE, BESIDES APPARENTLY SHOOTING EVERYTHING THAT MOVES IN LARGE AREAS AND DROPPING TWO TON BOMBS ON RESIDENTIAL COMPLEXES IS THE ISRAELI ACCEPTANCE OF 15 TO 20 CIVILIAN CASUALTIES FOR A SINGLE TARGETED HAMAS MEMBER, WHETHER AN ACTUAL COMBATANT OR NOT.
THIS HAS RESULTED IN DEATH, THE DEATH OF ENTIRE EXTENDED FAMILIES AND NEIGHBORS.
IS THIS THE FUTURE OF WAR? THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO DEFEND A COUNTRY.
OUR OWN POLITICIANS AND INDUSTRIES ARE COMPLICIT.
IN PARTICULAR FOR AMERICANS AT THIS TIME, IT MUST BE ASSERTED THAT IF YOUR LOGIC SAYS THAT SUPPORTING PALESTINIAN RIGHTS IS ANTI-SEMITIC, THERE IS SOMETHING VERY WRONG WITH YOUR PREMISES AND ASSUMPTIONS, THE QUESTION SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE ASKED DO PALESTINIAN LIVES MATTER? THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
THANK YOU, CALLAHAN, AND MY APOLOGIES.
KELLY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KAINOA KELLY.
THERE'S BAD HANDWRITING, I GUESS.
AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING INCLUDING THE ADOPTION OF A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION A FEW WEEKS AGO THE COUNCIL SPOKE ON HOW SURPRISED, IMPRESSED, AND GLAD THEY WERE THAT IT WAS A CALM AND RESPECTFUL DISCUSSION.
DESPITE THE MEDIA'S BEST ATTEMPTS TO MISREPRESENT THOSE WHO OPPOSE ISRAEL'S ACTIONS IN GAZA, WE ARE A PEACEFUL MOVEMENT CALLING FOR THE END TO MASS BLOODSHED AND COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT OF THE PALESTINIANS, AND ANYONE WHO SPEAKS WITH HATE IN THEIR HEART IS INTENTIONALLY MISREPRESENTING US OR OPPORTUNISTIC AND OPPORTUNISTIC ACTOR.
WE KNOW WHO WE ARE, AND WE ARE STEADFAST IN OUR CONVICTIONS.
I ALSO THINK THERE MAY BE SOME CONFUSION AMONG THE COUNCIL AS TO WHY THIS IS AN ISSUE BEING BROUGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT HERE TO CHANGE ANYBODY'S MINDS ON ANYTHING.
I DON'T THINK IT WORKS LIKE THAT.
YOU HAVE ENOUGH STATISTICS AND HISTORY BOOKS AVAILABLE TO YOU, AND THERE'S NO EXPECTATION THAT A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION PASSED BY THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, IS GOING TO END THIS BLOODSHED, ESPECIALLY ON THE EVE FOLLOWING ISRAEL'S REJECTION OF A CEASE FIRE AGREEMENT, BUT WE HAVE CALLED AND WRITTEN LETTERS TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES. WE'VE SPOKEN TO OUR FAMILY, FRIENDS, OUR COLLEAGUES.
WE HAVE PEACEFULLY PROTESTED, AND SOME OF US HAVE BEEN ARRESTED FOR DOING SO.
AND THERE ARE NOT MANY AVENUES LEFT FOR US.
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MEMBERS, FAMILIES WHO ARE LIVING IN TENTS IN GAZA.WE ARE ASKING YOU TO FOLLOW THE 100 PLUS MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION LIKE ATLANTA, CHICAGO, MINNEAPOLIS, ALBANY, AKRON, SEATTLE, CHARLOTTESVILLE, CINCINNATI, SAINT LOUIS, AND THE LIST GOES ON.
I BELIEVE THE CITY COUNCIL BEGINS EVERY MEETING WITH THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
AT LEAST IT'S WRITTEN INTO THE AGENDA AND BAKED INTO THAT IS THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE HISTORY OF GENOCIDE AND OCCUPATION COMMITTED AGAINST NATIVE AMERICANS, AND I, YOU KNOW, IF NOTHING CHANGES SOON, I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE IN A FEW DECADES THOSE SAME LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENTS BEING GIVEN IN ISRAEL, AND WHEN OUR WORDS AND LETTERS AND CRIES AND PROTESTS ARE VINDICATED BY THE LENS OF HISTORY IN DECADES TO COME, BUT I'M NOT HERE FOR VINDICATION.
THANK YOU. LINDSAY FALKENBURG AND FAYEZ.
CITY COUNCIL. IT'S MY FIRST TIME SPEAKING AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, SO A LITTLE NERVOUS.
I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE ARGUMENTS ALREADY MADE AROUND WHY YOU SHOULD PASS A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION.
I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND YOU THAT YOU ARE REPRESENTATIVES.
I WAKE UP EVERY MORNING FEELING SO POWERLESS IN THIS SITUATION, AND WE ELECT YOU TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR US, BUT WE ALSO ELECT YOU SO THAT YOU CAN BE OUR VOICE. YOU HAVE MORE POWER THAN I DO IN THIS SITUATION.
I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE, LIKE, THE POWER ON A BIG NATIONAL GLOBAL SCALE, BUT YOU HAVE MORE POWER IN FLAGSTAFF THAN I DO, AND I SEE THAT YOU ARE IN A REALLY HARD SITUATION. YOU HAVE CONSTITUENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE WHO ARE ASKING YOU TO MAKE A DECISION, AND THAT HAS TO BE SO HARD, AND SO I KNOW THAT MEANS THAT YOU MUST BE HAVING TO LOOK REALLY INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF YOU TO DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, AND THAT'S I DON'T ENVY YOU THAT CHALLENGE, BUT I, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL LOOK AT THIS SITUATION TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY AND LISTEN REALLY CAREFULLY, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL USE YOUR POWER AND YOUR VOICE TO CALL FOR A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION TODAY.
I HOPE YOU LIFT UP THE VOICES OF YOUNG PEOPLE ON THE NIU CAMPUS WHO HAVE RISKED THEIR FUTURES IN ORDER TO TRY TO MAKE AS POWERFUL A STATEMENT AS THEY COULD ABOUT THE WRONG THAT THEY SEE IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.
AND, YEAH, I JUST, I, I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF HEARTS BREAKING IN THIS SITUATION, WAKING UP EVERY SINGLE DAY FEELING LIKE THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS, AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, AND I KNOW LAST TIME, DEBORAH HARRIS, I HEARD YOU SAY, LET'S HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS, LET'S BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
I WOULD BE THERE FOR THAT, AND I THINK THAT THIS CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION IS ALSO INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW IS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD, AND I ASK YOU TO USE YOUR VOICES TO UPLIFT MINE.
FAYEZ. DALIA AND ERIC DESCHEENIE.
GOOD EVENING. AS AMERICANS, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT STOPPING THE WAR BECAUSE EVERY BULLET, EVERY PUMP, EVERY PLANE THAT THE.
SO IT'S A WAR BY PROXY FOR US, AND WE ARE ASHAMED TO HAVE THAT KIND OF WAR IN OUR NAME.
THIS WAR SHOULD BE STOPPED, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME ZIONISTS HERE TRYING TO.
ASK FOR A RESOLUTION TO BE PASSED FOR ISRAEL.
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TRYING TO MAKE THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE SUBMIT TO THEIR WILL, AND AS IF THIS IS A CRYING WOLF ALL THE TIME, IT IS THOSE PEOPLE WHO ALWAYS THINK THEY ARE VICTIM.AND THEY ARE PERPETRATING THE MOST HEINOUS CRIME EVER SEEN IN OUR LIFE.
BY THE WAY, THESE CRIMES HAVE BEEN GOING FOR MORE THAN 75 YEARS.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, BEFORE WE KNOW WHO CONTROL THE MEDIA, AND YOU COULDN'T READ IT, WE COULDN'T SEE IT. NOW, EVERY ONE OF US CONTROL THE MEDIA AND WE SEE EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF OUR EYES.
AS ONE PROFESSOR ONCE SAID IT, IN THE UNITED STATES, WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE OTHER SIDE UNLESS WE CROSS THE ATLANTIC. ONCE WE'RE IN THE ATLANTIC, WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT HERE WE'RE LOCKED.
WE HAVE TO STOP THIS, AND WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR JUSTICE AND NOT TO HAVE DOUBLE STANDARDS.
JUSTICE FOR WHITE PEOPLE, AND WHEN IT COMES TO BROWN PEOPLE, THERE IS NO JUSTICE.
JUSTICE HAS TO BE FOR EVERYBODY, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DALIA. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR AFFORDING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK.
MY NAME IS ERIC DESCHEENIE, FORMER MEMBER OF THE ARIZONA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
CITIZEN OF FLAGSTAFF, FATHER, SON, RELATIVE, AMONG OTHER THINGS.
I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE NATIVE COMMUNITIES HERE.
ON INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY, OCTOBER 14TH, 2019, AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHAT I HAD TO SAY THAT DAY, AND THE BIGGER PICTURE, OF COURSE, IS INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY IS TO COUNTER COLUMBUS DAY, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR A LOT OF COMMENTS, A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY AND ELSEWHERE ABOUT GENOCIDE, GENOCIDE, GENOCIDE.
WELL, WHEN YOU HEAR THAT AS A NATIVE PERSON, IT IMMEDIATELY RINGS A BELL, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL EXPERIENCING THE ILL EFFECTS OF GENOCIDE BY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO EITHER, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I GAVE MY SPEECH, THERE WAS A PART IN THERE THAT HAD ABOUT 5 OR 6 PARAGRAPHS THAT WENT INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY WITH INDIGENOUS PEOPLES PRESENT WOULDN'T BE INDIGENOUS.
ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT TODAY AND YOU FAST FORWARD TO NOW AND I SAY THE SAME THING, INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY, WHICH IS EVERY DAY, INCLUDING TODAY WOULDN'T BE WITH INDIGENOUS PEOPLES PRESENT LIKE MYSELF, WOULDN'T BE INDIGENOUS IF I DIDN'T SIT HERE AND SAY.
GOSH, THERE THERE IS A RIGHT THING TO DO GIVEN THE HISTORY OF WHERE WE STAND.
THERE IS A RIGHT THING TO DO GIVEN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES.
THERE IS A RIGHT THING TO DO, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN MURDERED AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM, 70%, GIVE OR TAKE, ARE INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
ALL OF THAT RINGS IN OUR EARS, OUR BEING INDIGENOUS PEOPLES RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY INDIAN COUNTRY.
THERE ARE 22 FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBES IN ARIZONA.
WELL OVER 500, NEARLY 600 ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
THAT'S NOT A DIFFICULT THING TO DO, AND SO 2019 I STAND HERE AGAIN 2024, AND I'M SIMPLY GOING TO SAY PASS THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
YOU CAN REWRITE HISTORY REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
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SHANI. HELLO.I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIMING, OF COURSE, TO SAY THAT A COUNTRY THAT IS KILLING OVER 34,000 PEOPLE SINCE OCTOBER THE 7TH AND INJURED OVER 78,000 PEOPLE, AND RIGHT NOW, AS WE SPEAK.
GAZA IS CUT INTO ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
EACH SECTION THEY KEPT ON SAYING, GO SOUTH, GO SOUTH.
SO TO SAY THAT SOMEBODY HAS A RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF, THIS IS NOT DEFENDING YOURSELF.
SO TO SAY THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
THIS IS NOT DEFENDING YOURSELF.
THIS IS. GENOCIDAL, YOU KNOW, AS A THERE'S OVER 100 JOURNALISTS HAVE BEEN KILLED.
ALMOST 80% OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED ARE CHILDREN AND FEMALES.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S CONSIDERED DEFENDING YOURSELF.
YOU KNOW, A CEASE FIRE WOULD BE GREAT, OF COURSE.
SO WE COULD ADD THAT WITH OTHER CITIES.
NOTHING ELSE TO ADD ONTO THAT.
THREE SCHNEE AND PETER VARDAS.
HONORABLE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MY PEOPLE AND A FAIR RESOLUTION TO THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN CONFLICT.
THERE HAS BEEN A JEWISH PRESENCE IN THE LAND KNOWN TODAY AS ISRAEL FOR OVER 4000 YEARS.
WE ARE INDIGENOUS TO THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
THE NAME PALESTINE WAS GIVEN TO ISRAEL 2000 YEARS AGO BY THE ROMANS IN AN ACT OF CULTURAL GENOCIDE.
THE RE CREATION OF ISRAEL WAS FORGED AMIDST ARAB ANTIPATHY TOWARD THE JEWISH PEOPLE THAT EXISTED PRIOR TO MAY 1948, WHEN ISRAEL DECLARED ITS INDEPENDENCE AFTER A UN VOTE THAT WAS IN FAVOR OF STATEHOOD FOR ISRAEL.
YET FIVE ARAB COUNTRIES ATTACKED THE FLEDGLING NATION FOUNDED AS A NATIONAL HOME FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE, INCLUDING REFUGEES FROM THE HOLOCAUST. FACTS MATTER.
PEACE PLANS HAVE CONTINUALLY BEEN REFUSED BY THE ARABS AND THE PEOPLE GROUP, WHO BEGAN TO IDENTIFY AS PALESTINIANS WITH NATIONALIST ASPIRATIONS.
IN 1967, AT THE BEHEST OF THE PLO, A TERRORIST GROUP FORMED IN 1964 BY YASSER ARAFAT.
YET, PRIOR TO 1968, THE PLO MADE NO CLAIM TO THE WEST BANK OR GAZA.
IT WAS FORMED FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA.
BOTH THE PLO AND HAMAS HAVE NEVER BEEN COMMITTED TO PEACE, ONLY DESTRUCTION.
ON OCTOBER 7TH, HAMAS, ALONG WITH PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS RAISED ON AN IDEOLOGY OF HATRED, BREACHED ISRAEL'S SECURITY FENCE IN SOUTHERN ISRAEL AND COMMITTED UNSPEAKABLE ATROCITIES.
ISRAEL ACTED OUT OF DEFENSE AS A SOVEREIGN NATION WITH THE GOAL OF ELIMINATING HAMAS.
THIS IS STRATEGICALLY CHALLENGING BECAUSE HAMAS BUILT AN UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE GAZA WAR IS AGAINST HAMAS, NOT THE PALESTINIANS.
THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL, THE DEATHS OF ISRAELIS AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
AS STATED IN THEIR 1985 CHARTER.
WE SAW THIS DEMONSTRATED IN HORRIFIC DETAIL ON OCTOBER 7TH.
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JUSTICE MATTERS.ONLY THEN CAN THE RIGHT OF SELF-DETERMINATION FOR THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE COME INTO FULL FRUITION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PETER FIRDAUS AND THEN TYLER LAWHEAD.
FRIENDS, COMRADES, COUNCILMEMBERS.
THEY SPOKE HERE ABOUT CEASEFIRE QUITE A LOT.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE WORD OF PEACE SO FAR.
THEY ARE CHANTING FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA.
NOT INCLUDING ISRAEL HAS TO BE ONLY PALESTINE.
THIS IS ANTI-SEMITIC AND CALL FOR GENOCIDE OF ALL THE PEOPLE, ALL THE JEWS LIVING IN ISRAEL DISGUISING INTO THE SO-CALLED PEACEFUL PROTEST, BUT THEY GASLIGHT.
ALL OVER AND LIE ALL OVER IN ALL THEIR STATEMENTS.
HAMAS IS A GENOCIDAL ORGANIZATION.
THEY STATED IT AND COMMITS ALL POSSIBLE DESPICABLE CRIMES, BUT THEY BLAME THEM ON ISRAEL.
ISRAEL COMMITS GENOCIDE ACCORDING TO THEM, WITH NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER.
THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST WITH INDEPENDENT JUDICIARY THAT DOES HANDLE ANY POSSIBLE.
UNLAWFUL ACTS THAT ARE COMMITTED DURING WAR OR NOT.
THEY ARE NOT GENUINE AND HONEST PEOPLE FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE.
THEY ARE SOCIAL SUPREMACISTS AND FASCISTS, SOCIAL SUPREMACISTS BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT THEIR VALUES ARE SUPERIOR TO OTHER PEOPLE'S VALUE, OUR OWN VALUES AND FASCISTS BECAUSE THEY PLACE THE GROUP AND COLLECTIVE ABOVE ALL THE INDIVIDUALS FREE PALESTINE FROM HAMAS.
TYLER LAWHEAD AND THEN ADAM SHIMONI.
I'M HEARING A LOT FROM BOTH SIDES ABOUT HAMAS, THIS, ISRAEL THIS, AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND SOMEBODY WHO'S WHO'S NEW TO THIS TOPIC, IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT THIS IS THIS ISSUE REALLY JUST BRINGS TO LIGHT A LARGER ISSUE, WHICH IS SYSTEMICALLY HOW POISONED OUR COUNTRY RUNS, OUR SO-CALLED DEMOCRACY, AND I THINK THESE CITIZENS HERE ARE THE ONES WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF A CEASE FIRE, ARE JUST TIRED OF GIVING OUR TAX MONEY TO FUND INTENTIONAL MURDER AND GENOCIDE FROM ONE STATE ONTO ANOTHER.
PEOPLE. YOU CAN ARGUE ABOUT HISTORICAL CONTEXT, BUT THE CONTEXT IS CLEAR.
IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT THE STATE OF ISRAEL, NOT THE JEWISH PEOPLE, ARE INTENDING TO WIPE OUT A CULTURE, BUT THIS MOVEMENT, THE REASON WHY THERE'S SO MANY STUDENTS PROTESTING IS NOT ABOUT RIGHT OR WRONG, OR THIS OR THAT, OR GETTING HAMAS OR ISRAEL.
IT'S ABOUT LOVE. I REALLY BELIEVE IT'S A MESSAGE OF LOVE ABOUT OUR COMMITMENT TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON HUMAN RIGHTS AND DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM FOR ALL PEOPLE. THAT CONTRADICTS RIGHT NOW WITH THE SYSTEMIC WAY THAT THE US IS SET UP ECONOMICALLY WITH OUR MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.
WE ARE LIVING IN A IN A CONTRADICTION, AND THIS MOVEMENT IS ABOUT SPREADING LOVE AND PROMOTING PEOPLE'S RIGHTS AND THE RIGHT FOR THEM TO BE FREE AND TO BE THEMSELVES WITHOUT BEING OCCUPIED AND MILITARIZED.
I KNOW THAT WE ARE JUST A SMALL CITY, BUT WE CAN JOIN THE RANKS OF OTHER SMALL CITIES LIKE NOGALES, SOUTH TOTHEN AND REALLY MAKING A STATEMENT TO THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, DO NOT WANT THIS TO CONTINUE, AND IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO ACT IN CONTRARY AND ACT COMPLICITY WITH GENOCIDE AND MURDER OF PALESTINIAN JOURNALISTS OF ALL 12 UNIVERSITIES OF HOUSING UNITS, IT'S CLEAR THAT THE US IS SUPPORTING THIS, AND IT'S CLEAR THAT THE PEOPLE DO NOT SUPPORT THIS.
YOU ALL, AS A CITY COUNCIL, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY GREAT HAPPEN TO STAND UP FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND DEMOCRACY, WHICH IS WHAT OUR CONSTITUTION AND OUR COUNTRY HAS CLAIMED TO BE ABOUT FOR 200 YEARS.
I REALLY BELIEVE CITY COUNCIL IS THE WAY WE CAN MAKE CHANGE.
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS VERY CONVOLUTED.
SO I URGE YOU ALL PLEASE TO CONSIDER VOTING AND PASSING THIS RESOLUTION.
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ADAM SHIMONI AND THEN LORENZO GOMEZ.THE CURRENT LEADERSHIP IN ISRAEL.
TO ME, IS IS THE MOST PROBLEMATIC THAT WE'VE SEEN IN A LONG, LONG TIME, AND FOR THEM TO BE AT THE HELM OF THIS SITUATION, THIS HORRENDOUS OCCURRENCE THAT OCCURRED ON OCTOBER 7TH IN THE RESPONSE THAT ISRAEL'S GOING TO TAKE IS EXTREMELY CONCERNING AND PROBLEMATIC, AND HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY A NIGHTMARE OVER THE DECADES, I'VE WITNESSED WARS IN ISRAEL WITH GAZA AND ISSUES WITHIN THE WEST BANK FIRSTHAND, AND I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED WHY THE APPROACH WE WERE TAKING WAS THE APPROACH WE WERE TAKING AS THE COUNTRY OF ISRAEL.
I ALWAYS FELT THAT TOO MANY LIVES WERE BEING KILLED, AND WE WERE NEVER REALLY PLANTING SEEDS OF PEACE TO PROMOTE A FUTURE THAT COULD BE ONE OF WHICH EVERYONE FEELS RESPECTED, WELCOMED AND AT HOME.
PRIOR TO OCTOBER 7TH, THE DESTRUCTION AND THE KILLING AND THE VIOLENCE IN THE WEST BANK WAS GETTING TO A POINT THAT WAS INTOLERABLE, AND MY FATHER AND I OFTEN WOULD TALK ABOUT HOW SOMETHING HORRENDOUS IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO ISRAEL SOON.
OCTOBER 7TH HAPPENED, AND THAT INCIDENT WAS A REALITY, ONE THAT I'M VERY PERSONALLY IMPACTED BY AND KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL HOPING AND PRAYING THAT THE HOSTAGES ARE ALIVE AND WILL ONE DAY BE BROUGHT HOME.
IN MY OPINION, GOAL OF ELIMINATING HAMAS IS NOT POSSIBLE.
I KEEP SENDING VIDEOS OF KIDS WHO HAVE LOST THEIR PARENTS TO MY FAMILY MEMBERS SAYING.
THERE ARE HAMAS RECRUITS IN TEN YEARS.
IF THE GOAL IS TO ELIMINATE HAMAS, YOU KNOW, WHY NOT JUST WIPE THEM ALL OUT? AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE SEEN WAY TOO MUCH DEATH AND INCLUDING THE INVADING INVASION OF RAFAH, WHICH SADDENS ME, BOTH IN HOPES FOR THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE AND OUT OF HOPES FOR THE HOSTAGES AND THEIR WELL-BEING.
IN CLOSING, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AS AMERICANS WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS, AND IF PASSING A RESOLUTION PUTS PRESSURE ON THOSE WHO LEAD OUR STATES AND OUR NATION, THEN PASS THAT RESOLUTION AND PUT SOME PRESSURE ON THOSE ABOVE US, BECAUSE WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY AND THE DEFUNDING OF THIS WAR AND A CEASE FIRE NOW.
THANK YOU, LORENZO GOMEZ AND THEN ZACHARY RODRIGUEZ.
I'M AN NIU ALUM, AND I'M A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER HERE.
TODAY. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE PETITION FOR CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION, INTRODUCED BY AN AMAZING COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE WHO WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO BE ON THE SIDE OF HUMANITY AND COMPASSION.
AS OF TODAY, OVER 40,000 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED AS A RESULT OF THE WAR ON THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.
THIS INCLUDES ALL OF THE INNOCENT PEOPLE LOST ON OCTOBER 7TH.
UP UNTIL NOW, THIS IS NO LONGER ABOUT RELIGION.
THIS IS ABOUT LAND OWNERSHIP AND EXERTION OF POWER.
AS WE SIT HERE PROVIDING LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENTS AND REMEMBERING THE BLOODY HISTORY OF INDIGENOUS TRIBES, IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE LINK BETWEEN THAT STRUGGLE AND THE ONE IN GAZA ARE SO SIMILAR.
I'D RATHER NOT FOCUS ON THE LONG HISTORY OF PALESTINIAN RESISTANCE AND THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT, BUT RATHER WHY IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE AS A CITY DECIDE TO TAKE OUR OWN POSITION ON IT. NOW, AS A COUNCIL, YOU ARE THE MOST REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNING BODY IN REGARD TO THE PEOPLE OF FLAGSTAFF.
WE HAVE ENTRUSTED YOU TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR NEEDS AND WANTS AS OUR AS A COMMUNITY.
FOR THIS REASON, THE MANY MEETINGS I HAVE SAT THROUGH WITH FEDERAL AND STATE LEGISLATORS ACROSS MULTIPLE STATES HAVE TAUGHT ME THAT ONLY PEOPLE OF SUFFICIENT STANDING, WHICH IS YOU ALL HAVE A LARGE ENOUGH TO SAY TO SWAY HIGHER GOVERNING BODIES.
THIS IS WHY WE NEED YOU RIGHT NOW.
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ONE THAT WILL ALLOW FOR GENUINE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RESOLUTION TO ETHNIC CLEANSING, MISUNDERSTOOD BOUNDARIES OF RELIGION, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF HUMAN LIFE IN ALL CAPACITIES.THEY HAVE STOOD WITH US AT STANDING ROCK, TURTLE ISLAND, AND EVEN HERE IN THE PLACE WE CALL HOME.
IT IS TO CALL FOR PEACE DISPLAYED BY THEIR COMMITMENT TO THEIR CAUSE AND THEIR DESIRE TO AFFIRM IN THEIR OWN WORDS THAT THE SUN SHINES ON ALL OF US, ZIONISTS AND PALESTINIANS ALIKE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ZACHARY RODRIGUEZ.
I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS AS SHORT AND SIMPLE AS I CAN MAKE IT.
WHAT HAPPENED ON TUESDAY NIGHT AT ANY AND WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING ACROSS THE NATION WAS ABSOLUTELY ABHORRENT AND DISPROPORTIONATE TO A PEACEFUL PROTEST WHERE PEOPLE WERE LAUGHING, SHARING STORIES, SINGING AND DANCING.
NOT ONCE DID THE FACULTY REACH OUT TO THE FACULTY OF THE COLLEGE.
REACH OUT TO THE STUDENTS UNTIL, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, ROUGHLY FOUR HOURS UNTIL THE CURFEW, WHICH THEY PASSED ON A PURE HEARSAY RATHER THAN ON PAPER FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, PALESTINE WILL BE FREE IS A STATEMENT THAT HAS BEEN SHOUTED FROM THE ROOFTOPS AS A MESSAGE OF PEACE, AND NOT ONE OF VIOLENCE.
WHAT IS THERE ABOUT ISRAEL TO FREE? THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE PASS A CEASE FIRE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE ONLINE COMMENTER.
JANET, YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
JANET, YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MAYOR, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
WE'LL ASK JANET TO SEND HER COMMENTS TO THE PUBLIC.
COMMENT, EMAIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE ARE GOING TO TURN IT INWARD AND HAVE COUNCIL HAVE A DISCUSSION AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THE TWO PETITIONS.
FIRST, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION AND COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY RESOLUTION, AND WHEN WE'RE FINISHED WITH THAT, THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE COUNCIL INDICATE WHETHER THEY DESIRE TO HAVE THE SECOND PETITION MOVED FORWARD FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, AND BEFORE.
IT'S CHALLENGING TO ALWAYS BE ARTICULATE UP HERE IN FRONT OF.
SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS CALLED US, WRITTEN TO US AND HAS SHOWN UP TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS ENORMOUS ISSUE.
YOUR HUMANITY AND PASSION IS INSPIRING.
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AND IT REALLY.THOSE OF YOU WHO MENTIONED THAT WE'RE THE CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE, AND THAT IS WHAT I THINK IS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THINGS ABOUT THIS FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND THE CITY COUNCIL, WHERE YOU CAN SPEAK DIRECTLY TO US ANY TIME YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
THERE ARE SOME PLACES AROUND THE WORLD WHERE YOU CAN'T HAVE THESE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS, AND IF YOU CAN'T SPEAK YOUR MIND AND TALK TO ONE ANOTHER, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU HAVE AN ENGAGED COMMUNITY WHO EMPATHIZES WITH EACH OTHER AND IS WILLING TO HEAR EACH OTHER OUT.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME, AND I SAY THIS EVERY TIME WE HAVE A YOU KNOW, A DISCUSSION.
THAT'S TENDS TO BE FULL OF PASSION.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY FEEL SAFE, FEEL RESPECTED AND FEEL HEARD, AND ALTHOUGH AS A CITIZEN OF THE WORLD, I'M HEARTBROKEN BY THE PAIN AND ANGUISH THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT.
THIS BODY WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY WE SERVE.
AND THEREFORE, I WON'T SUPPORT EITHER OF THESE RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE BEFORE US.
I KNOW YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'VE BEEN TO ISRAEL TWICE.
I'VE STUDIED THE HISTORY OF THAT REGION, BUT BEFORE I GET INTO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY.
THAT MUCH OF MY FAMILY COMES FROM IRELAND.
I SEE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN IRELAND THE MIDEAST.
BRITAIN INVADED IRELAND OVER 400 YEARS AGO.
FIGHTING WENT ON UNTIL A TWO STATE SOLUTION WAS ACCEPTED.
NO ONE IS COMPLETELY HAPPY THAT IRELAND WAS DIVIDED INTO BRITISH CONTROLLED NORTHERN IRELAND THE INDEPENDENT REPUBLIC OF IRELAND, BUT PEACE IS HELD FOR OVER A QUARTER CENTURY NOW.
ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIANS MUST AGREE TO A TWO STATE SOLUTION.
BOTH SIDES MUST STAND AGAINST ALL VIOLENCE.
I HOPE THAT OUR PRESIDENT CAN CONVINCE THE COMPETING SIDES THAT THESE TWO THINGS MUST HAPPEN.
RIGHT, WRONG OR INDIFFERENT? IF THESE GOALS ARE NOT REALIZED, WE WILL EXPERIENCE A MILLENNIUM OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.
THERE HAS BEEN A PLETHORA OF DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE BEFORE AND TONIGHT.
PREDOMINANTLY, THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN THAT THE BLAME IS ONE SIDE OR BLAME IS THE OTHER SIDE.
I SUGGEST A DIFFERENT APPROACH.
FOR THE SAKE OF WORLD PEACE, I WILL CONSIDER SUPPORTING A RESOLUTION, BUT ONLY IF IT IS RATIONAL AND DOES NOT SUPPORT ONE SIDE AGAINST THE OTHER.
HEAR WHAT SOME OF YOU HAVE READ ALREADY.
IS MY RESOLUTION MY PROPOSED RESOLUTION? THIS IS A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL CALLING FOR A JUST RESOLUTION TO THE PALESTINIAN-ISRAELI CONFLICT.
WHEREAS THE HAMAS ATTACKS ON ISRAEL KILLED OVER 1000 ISRAELIS AND TOOK HUNDREDS OF HOSTAGES.
WHEREAS THE ISRAELI ATTACK ON GAZA GAZA HAS KILLED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PALESTINIANS.
TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT.
WHEREAS THE WAR HAS LED TO MASSIVE DESTRUCTION AND HEALTH ISSUES, INCLUDING STARVATION.
WHEREAS BOTH SIDES WILL TRY TO, QUOTE, PUSH EACH OTHER INTO THE SEA.
WHEREAS EVERY TIME A PALESTINIAN IS KILLED.
IT MOTIVATES MORE TERRORISTS EVERY TIME AN ISRAELI IS KILLED.
WHEREAS INJUSTICE IS A GREAT MOTIVATOR.
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WHEREAS THERE IS ACUTE DANGER THAT THE CONFLICT IS SPREADING TO THE BROADER MIDEAST AND BEYOND, AS EVIDENCED BY THE RECENT ATTACKS ON AND FROM LEBANON.WHEREAS A TWO STATE SOLUTION HAS LED TO PEACE IN OTHER COUNTRIES, FOR INSTANCE BETWEEN THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND NORTHERN IRELAND, EVEN THOUGH NEITHER SIDE COULD CLAIM A CLEAR WIN.
WHEREAS ORGANIZATIONS LIKE ULTIMATE PEACE HAVE SHOWN THAT YOUNG PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SEPARATE BUT PARALLEL REALITIES CAN CREATE PATHWAYS FOR A BRIGHTER AND MORE EQUITABLE FUTURE TOGETHER, AND FINALLY, WHEREAS IF THESE ISSUES ARE NOT ADDRESSED IN AN ACCEPTABLE MANNER, THE VIOLENCE WILL CONTINUE FOREVERMORE.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL AS FOLLOWS.
THE COUNCIL URGES THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO HELP NEGOTIATE AN ISRAELI GAZA CEASEFIRE.
RETURN OF THE HOSTAGES AND A PEACEFUL, LONG TERM SOLUTION TO THE WAR.
A SOLUTION THAT INCLUDES A TWO STATE SOLUTION WHERE PALESTINIANS AND ISRAELIS AGREE TO BORDERS, WHERE ALL SIDES CAN LIVE IN PEACE, AND WHERE ALL SIDES AGREE TO ASSAIL VIOLENCE.
COUNCILMEMBER MATTHEWS THANK YOU, MAYOR JIM.
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR CAMPAIGN FOR US SENATE, AND I ONLY WISH I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
I'LL THINK ABOUT IT. I ONLY WISH THE TIME THAT YOU SPENT ON THAT WAS INSTEAD OF SPENT ON OUR WATER RATE STUDY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO REALLY IMPACT OUR CITIZENRY IN THE COMING WEEKS.
THIS IS ONE OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS THAT OUR COMMUNITY FEELS SAFE TO COME AND SPEAK WHAT'S ON THEIR HEART, EVEN IF IT'S STUFF THAT IS GOING ON NATIONALLY OR GLOBALLY, THINGS THAT WE DO NOT INFLUENCE. I'M NOT ONE TO FOLLOW OTHER CITIES JUST BECAUSE THEY DID.
WE WERE SWORN IN AND VOTED IN TO REPRESENT OUR CITY AND TALK ABOUT THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON, A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IN YOUR POCKETBOOK AND IN YOUR HOUSE HOLD.
WE VOTE ON WATER RATES AND TRASH RATES AND STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO US AT THIS LEVEL. THERE IS A STRUCTURE OF GOVERNMENT.
I'M FOR ONE WILL SEND LETTERS AND EMAILS TO STATE AND US OFFICIALS ON MATTERS THAT THEY VOTE ON.
ONE OF THE SPEAKERS TONIGHT SAID IT'S OUR JOB, AND I AGREE TO ADVOCATE ADVOCATE FOR LOCAL NEEDS AND WANTS, AND THAT'S CORRECT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE JUST ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE WANTING ONE THING HERE.
WE IT WE DON'T ALWAYS GET IT ALL RIGHT, AND WE CAN'T ALWAYS MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, AND THIS IS ONE SUBJECT THAT THE ONLY THING THAT IT DOES IS.
CAUSED DIVISION IN AN ALREADY VERY DIVISIVE SOCIETY.
WE'VE GOT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS COMING UP THIS YEAR, AND I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT MORE OF THINGS THAT WE COULD ALL GET VERY EMOTIONAL ABOUT, AND WE'LL WANT CITY COUNCIL TO DO A RESOLUTION WHICH JUST CREATES DIVISION.
IT DOESN'T MOVE THE NEEDLE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I THINK ALL OF US AS HUMAN CITIZENS WANT PEACE ALL OVER THE WORLD, AND THE ATROCITIES GOING ON IN ISRAEL AND OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD ARE AWFUL.
I CAN'T STOP IT, THOUGH, AND MAKING A STATEMENT ONLY DIVIDES OUR COUNTRY.
I'VE DRIVEN THROUGH BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITIES THAT LOOK LIKE THE WEST COAST OF SANTA BARBARA THAT ARE ARAB MUSLIM ARAB COMMUNITY LIVE IN PEACE AND HARMONY, PROSPERITY.
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I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT ALL THE HISTORY BETWEEN PALESTINE AND ISRAEL.I KNOW THAT SO MUCH OF IT IS FUELED BY POLITICIANS AND PEOPLE THAT DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT EITHER SIDE, AND I FEEL MY HEART BREAKS FOR THE INNOCENT PALESTINIANS AND THE INNOCENT ISRAELIS THAT ARE CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS HORRIFIC TRAGEDY, AND I HOPE AND PRAY THAT OUR PRESIDENT AND OUR GOVERNMENT ELECTED OFFICIALS STEP UP AND ASSIST IN A FAIR AND EQUITABLE CEASE FIRE, BUT IT'S NOT AT OUR LEVEL, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT THE MAYOR SAID.
SHE SAID IT MORE ELOQUENTLY, ELOQUENTLY THAN I DID.
I, I WANT TO STOP ALL THE PETITIONS TONIGHT.
I'LL BE VOTING NO ON ALL OF THEM, BECAUSE WE DO.
WE CAN GET WRAPPED UP IN THESE GLOBAL ISSUES, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF LOCAL ISSUES TO FOCUS ON, AND IT'S OUR JOB TO FOCUS ON THOSE ISSUES, AND I'M THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE A PLATFORM FOR ALL OF YOU TO COME SPEAK, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR JUST REALLY SHARING YOUR HEARTS AND YOUR PASSIONS, AND I HEAR YOU ON BOTH SIDES, BUT I WON'T BE MOVING FORWARD WITH NONE OF THE PETITIONS OR COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY'S RESOLUTION.
I WANT TO THANK THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SHARED YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR FEARS WITH ME, WHO HAVE PROVIDED ME WITH RESOURCES AND LEARNING TOOLS, AND WHO HAVE ADDED IMMENSELY TO MY OWN THOUGHTS AND CONSIDERATIONS, BOTH FOR OUR CONVERSATION TONIGHT AND THOSE I'M HAVING BEYOND THESE HALLS.
I KNOW THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE NOT EASY.
THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE NOT EASY FOR US HERE ON THE DAIS.
THEY'RE NOT EASY FOR OUR CITY OR OUR STAFF.
I HAVE AGONIZED OVER THIS MATTER OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, AS WE HAVE SEEN THE SITUATION IN GAZA BECOME A MATTER OF GLOBAL, THEN NATIONAL AND NOW LOCAL AGONY AND DISCOURSE. I SAY THAT I AGONIZE OVER IT BECAUSE IT IS AGONIZING.
THE MORE I INVEST IN LEARNING THE HISTORIES OF CONFLICT IN THE REGION AND THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ITS LOCAL IMPACTS TO OUR FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY AND CITIZENS, THE MORE I'M WEIGHED BY THE MAGNITUDE OF IT ALL.
BUT ONE THING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME IN MY READING HAS BEEN THIS THE WEIGHT OF JUSTICE AND INJUSTICE IS IMMENSE, AND ITS IMMEASURABLE TO CARRY THE WEIGHT OF THE WHOLE WORLD, ITS WARS AND ITS WRONGS IS UNBEARABLE, BUT SO IS THE WEIGHT OF SILENCE IN THE FACE OF OPPRESSION.
ONE THING I KNOW AND CAN SAY WITH CERTAINTY IS THAT THE ANSWER TO THESE QUESTIONS AND THIS WEIGHT IS NOT INDIFFERENCE, BUT OPPOSITION, BECAUSE SILENCE IN THESE TIMES, INDIFFERENCE TO WHAT IS HAPPENING IS, IN MY MIND GREATER AND SO MUCH HEAVIER TO BEAR THAN THE LIBERATION OF STATING IN UNISON AND UNION WITH ALL THOSE WHO STAND ON THE SIDE OF FREEDOM, JUSTICE AND PEACE, THAT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
WHAT'S NOT CLEAR IS WHAT THAT REFUSAL TO REMAIN SILENT LOOKS LIKE.
CALLS FOR A CEASE FIRE AND AN END TO CONFLICT HAVE BEEN COMPLICATED AND UNSATISFACTORY.
THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN WEIGHED DOWN BY THE CONFLATION OF POLITICS AND POLICIES WITH PEOPLE, WITH THE COMBINING OF CONVERSATIONS OF ISRAEL, OF PALESTINE AND THEIR NEIGHBORS OF OCCUPATION, AND WITH CONVERSATIONS OF FREE SPEECH AND SELF-DETERMINATION IN THE UNITED STATES, CLASHING AND COMPETING INTERESTS THAT DO NOT SEEM TO ALWAYS HAVE THE HEART OF THE MATTER.
THE HUMAN LIVES CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE IN MIND.
AND WHAT I FEAR MOST BEYOND THE HISTORICAL LENS THAT WILL BE PLACED ON PRESENT DAY COMPLACENCY AND SILENCE, IS THE SAME LENS THAT WILL BE APPLIED IF WE MAKE A CHOICE THAT DOES NOT ADD TO THE CONVERSATION, BUT INSTEAD ONLY ADDS TO THE NOISE.
WHEN WE OPEN THESE MEETINGS, WE SPEAK A LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT RECOGNIZES THE TRADITIONAL STEWARDSHIP OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, THEIR HISTORIES, THEIR SOVEREIGNTY, AND THEIR RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION.
THIS CALLS TO MIND FOR ME TWO FAILINGS IN ON OUR PART AS AN AMERICAN SOCIETY AND GOVERNMENT SYSTEM.
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FIRST, IT REFLECTS WHAT I SEE AS OUR FAILING TO RECOGNIZE THE COMPLEX FACT IN THE CONVERSATION AROUND GAZA AND THE ATROCITIES HAPPENING IN THAT LAND, THAT IT IS A. THAT THIS CONVERSATION IS ALSO A MATTER OF ACKNOWLEDGING SIMILAR RIGHTS TO SOVEREIGNTY AND SELF-DETERMINATION, AND SECOND, THAT WE HAVE FAILED BOTH IN OUR ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF WHAT HAPPENS ON THE LANDS WE OCCUPY AND IN OUR SUPPORT OF THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE FORMED OVER TIME WITH ISRAEL.I THINK BACK ON THE LONG HISTORY OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND ISRAEL, WHAT PRESIDENT JOHN F KENNEDY REFERRED TO AS OUR SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP THAT HAS SHIFTED AND EVOLVED OVER TIME.
ALL PRESUMABLY FROM THE CONSISTENT GOAL OF REACHING EVENTUAL PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
IN THAT VISION OF SUPPORT FOR PEACE, WE AS A NATION HAVE CONFLATED PARTNERSHIP IN SECURING A REGION AND SEEKING PEACE IN THAT REGION TO TURNING A BLIND EYE TO ACTIONS ON BEHALF OF A STATE THAT DID NOT ALIGN WITH THAT VISION.
WHAT WE HAVE SOUGHT IN TERMS OF SECURING THE MIDDLE EAST, AND WHAT WE HAVE DESCRIBED AS EFFORTS TOWARDS PEACE, HAS TOO OFTEN FAILED TO MEANINGFULLY ADVANCE PEACE FOR THE PEOPLE AND RECOGNIZE NOT ONLY THE COMPLEXITIES OF RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN PEOPLES IN THE REGION, BUT ALSO OUR INABILITY TO TRULY SPEAK INTO OR ADDRESS THEM AS OUTSIDER INFLUENCERS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN EFFECTIVELY WORK TOWARD THE GOAL OF PEACE, THE SUPPORT OF A VIABLE TWO STATE SOLUTION TO ADVANCE HUMAN RIGHTS AND SOCIAL JUSTICE, AND THE REDRESS OF OUR OWN SHORTCOMINGS IN OUR NATIONS ATTEMPTS TO INFLUENCE THESE MATTERS THROUGH A RESOLUTION THAT CANNOT EFFECTIVELY CAPTURE THOSE COMPLEXITIES THAT CALL, I BELIEVE, IS AN INDEPENDENT ONE.
I BELIEVE WE ALL, AS INDIVIDUALS AND AS A COMMUNITY, HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ADD OUR VOICES TO THE CALL FOR PEACE AND A TWO STATE SOLUTION THAT WOULD END THE ATROCITIES BEING SUFFERED BY THE PEOPLE.
WHAT I DO BELIEVE WE CAN SPEAK TO COLLECTIVELY IS A CALL FOR US AS A COMMUNITY TO DO BETTER.
WHAT STATES AND NATIONS HAVE FAILED TO DO AT ALL? AS I SHARED IN RECENT THOUGHTS ON THE WAR IN GAZA AND LEGISLATION THAT WAS MOVING FORWARD TO COMBAT ANTI-SEMITISM IN OUR OWN NATION, WE CAN RECOGNIZE THE RIGHTS OF JEWISH PEOPLE TO SELF-DETERMINATION WITHOUT DENYING THE RIGHT OF PALESTINIANS TO THE SAME.
WE CAN DENOUNCE THE ACTIONS OF A STATE WITHOUT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST OR HATING ITS PEOPLE.
SUPPORT MUCH OF THE LANGUAGE OF THE RESOLUTION PROPOSED BY COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY.
I HAVE ADDED, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO USE MY VOICE TO SPEAK FOR PEACE, OPPOSITION TO GENOCIDE AND HOSTAGE TAKING, AND THE LEVERAGING OF HUMAN LIVES FOR POLITICAL GAINS.
I HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO STAND AGAINST INJUSTICE AND ADVOCATE FOR A BETTER FUTURE.
I HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO CALL FOR ACCOUNTABILITY AMONG OUR STATE AND NATIONAL LEADERS WHEN IT COMES TO HOW WE MUST DEFEND HUMAN RIGHTS, AND HOW THOSE WITH THE POWER TO CONTROL OUR INTERESTS AND INVESTMENTS CANNOT LEVERAGE THOSE THROUGH SILENCE OR COMPLACENCE, BECAUSE TO SPEAK UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT IS DEEMED, QUOTE, TOO COSTLY.
I HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO STAND WITH THOSE CALLING FOR CHANGE, DEMONSTRATING AGAINST COMPLACENCY AND INJUSTICE, AND WALK BESIDES THOSE WHO MARCH FOR AWARENESS AND ACT OF SUPPORT OF WHAT IS RIGHT.
TO MY JEWISH BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND THE BROADER JEWISH COMMUNITY OF FLAGSTAFF, I STAND WITH YOU TO MY PALESTINIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND THE BROADER PALESTINIAN COMMUNITY OF FLAGSTAFF, I STAND WITH YOU TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE STANDING IN OPPOSITION TO WAR AND HATE AND GENOCIDE AND INJUSTICE, AND TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE STANDING AGAINST THE SAME, AND TO ALL WHO STAND ON THE SIDE OF PEACE AND THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF LIFE AND LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I HAVE, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO STAND WITH YOU, AND ALL I CAN DO IS BEG YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND THE FORGIVENESS OF THOSE WHO CANNOT SUPPORT WHERE I STAND TONIGHT, ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN AGREE ON THE BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT PEACE.
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QUITE HONESTLY, IT'S SO COMPLEX, I DON'T FEEL LIKE.I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING TO WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING THAT HAS SO MANY LAYERS AND HISTORY, AND I WANT TO THANK THAT COMMUNITY MEMBER FOR GIVING ME THE INFORMATION.
I DO NOT WANT TO FURTHER DIVISIVENESS AND FLAGSTAFF.
HOWEVER, I DO SUPPORT AN OPEN CONVERSATION FROM ALL SIDES.
IT WAS A GREAT TERM, AND I DO SUPPORT A FUTURE OF PEACE.
LIKE I SAY, I DO, I LIKE I APPRECIATE EVERYONE AND YOUR THOUGHTS TONIGHT, BUT IT'S MY JOB TO REPRESENT OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY, AND SUPPORTING ONE PETITION AND NOT THE OTHER WOULD NOT BE.
FOSTERING THAT MISSION THAT WE HAVE.
SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING EITHER OF THE PETITIONS THAT ARE PUT FORTH TONIGHT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL UP HERE.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE, FOR YOUR INCREDIBLY THOUGHTFUL AND WELL ARTICULATED COMMENTS.
WHAT HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLY RESPECTFUL AND ADMIRABLE SHARING OF FEELINGS AND POSITIONS.
FOR ME, ABOVE ALL ELSE, I PRAY FOR PEACE.
I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT PEACE REQUIRES COURAGE, AND IT REQUIRES COURAGE FROM EVERYONE WHO HAS ENDURED AN INJUSTICE OR EXPERIENCED EVIL, AND IN WAR.
EVERYONE CAUGHT UP IN IT HAS ENDURED INJUSTICE AND EVIL.
THOSE WHO SUFFER NEED THE COURAGE TO STOP THE FIGHTING.
IF THE CYCLE OF SUFFERING IS TO EVER CEASE.
STOP! AND WHY? I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS SUPPORTING SOME SORT OF CALL FOR A CEASE FIRE TONIGHT, AND WHY? I APPLAUD COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY FOR DRAFTING HIS OWN LANGUAGE THAT CATERS MORE SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO SAY AND ADVOCATE FOR UP HERE, RATHER THAN BECOMING THE MOUTHPIECE OR THE VOICE OF ANOTHER ENTITY.
ALL THAT SAID, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS I SIT UP HERE AND I, YOU KNOW, I COME TO THESE CONCLUSIONS FROM A POSITION OF IMMENSE PRIVILEGE. I WAS A PROFESSIONAL COMMUNITY ORGANIZER FOR OVER A DECADE, AND ONE OF MY CLOSEST OPERATING PRINCIPLES IS, ONLY THOSE WHO AREN'T CLOSE TO A PROBLEM CAN AFFORD TO PHILOSOPHIZE ABOUT THEM.
SO IF I'M GOING TO REMAIN CONSISTENT IN MY LOGIC, I NEED TO RECOGNIZE I'M SOMEONE WHO'S UP HERE PHILOSOPHIZING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS VERY REAL AND VERY PAINFUL AND VERY CLOSE TO OTHERS.
I COULD TALK ABOUT THIS ALL EVENING, AND I WOULD NEVER BE DOING ANYTHING MORE THAN PHILOSOPHIZING.
THE SECOND I START TO BREAK DOWN THE INS AND OUTS OF THE VARIOUS POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TONIGHT.
I BEGAN TO BETRAY THE RECOGNITION THAT THIS ISN'T MY STRUGGLE.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO REST ON HERE TONIGHT MYSELF IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN ATTEST TO IN MY CAPACITY AS A COUNCIL PERSON UP HERE, AND THAT IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE IN OR OUT OF OUR LANE BY PROVIDING A PLATFORM FOR THIS CONVERSATION TO HAPPEN.
THIS CONVERSATION IS IMPORTANT.
IT CLEARLY MATTERS TO MANY MEMBERS OF OUR FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY.
I AM PROUD TO PROVIDE AN ARENA WHERE THESE CONVERSATIONS CAN OCCUR RESPECTFULLY, SAFELY, AND IN AN ORDERLY MANNER WHERE THE DIALOG CAN FEEL, I DON'T KNOW, SOMEHOW OFFICIAL.
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I DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT MUCH, BUT IT'S SOMETHING.WAS DOCTOR. THAT SAID, THERE ARE TWO WAYS FORWARD WITH THIS.
THERE IS DISCUSSION OR THERE IS VIOLENCE.
THAT'S WHERE I'D LIKE TO LEAVE THINGS FOR NOW.
I'M GETTING A SENSE FROM THE ROOM THAT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE FORWARDING EITHER RESOLUTION AT THIS TIME, BUT I, I WANT TO SAY ABOVE ALL ELSE, I PRAY FOR PEACE, AND I'M PROUD OF THE ROLE THAT I'VE PLAYED UP HERE, WHAT SMALL ROLE IT IS TO DO MY PART IN OUR COMMUNITY, TO ALLOW FOR THESE CONVERSATIONS TO HAPPEN, AND TO ALLOW FOR HEALING TO OCCUR.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS.
I DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE THAT HAS COME OUT TONIGHT.
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT ALREADY.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN, AND THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.
IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BUT WE CAN'T SOLVE IT FROM HERE, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO IF YOU'RE PALESTINIAN AND YOU'RE HURTING, WE WANT TO HELP YOU HEAL IN WHATEVER WAY WE CAN.
IF YOU'RE ISRAELI, JEWISH AND YOU'RE HURTING, WE WANT TO HELP YOU HEAL.
ABOUT WHAT? ISRAEL WILL DO WHAT PALESTINIANS WOULD DO WITH WITH WHAT HAMAS IS DOING.
WE CAN'T CONTROL THEM, BUT WE CAN CONTROL THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE CAN BE CARING AND SUPPORTIVE AND LOVING AND RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER, AND SO, YES, I DO GET EMOTIONAL ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS, AND THIS IS ONE I HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT.
I DON'T I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS MATTER.
I READ, BUT I DON'T, BUT I'M NOT AN EXPERT.
MANY OF YOU ARE MUCH MORE OF AN EXPERT THAN I AM, AND SO WHAT I AM GOING TO ASK PEOPLE TO DO IS I'M GOING TO ASK US AS A COMMUNITY, IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE COULD REACH OUT TO SOMEONE, NOT EVERYBODY, BUT TO SOMEONE, JUST ONE PERSON, AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM WITH THAT HEALING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
I HAVE NO CLUE, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THOSE WHO I KNOW ARE A PART OF THIS CONFLICT, AND I WILL BE TRYING TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT I CAN AS A HUMAN BEING, TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR YOU, AND SO WITH THAT, I WON'T BE MOVING EITHER ONE OF THESE FORWARD.
YES, IF I MAY, BEFORE YOU SPEAK, BECAUSE THE ITEMS ARE COMBINED UNDER 13, ITEM A IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE BECAUSE WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE TWO RESOLUTIONS ARE ACTUALLY BEING CONSIDERED HERE TONIGHT BY COUNCIL, AND THOSE REQUIRE A MOTION.
ITEM B, UNDER OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE, ONLY REQUIRES WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE THREE COUNCILMEMBERS WILLING TO MOVE THE PETITION FORWARD TO A WORK SESSION LATER.
IF THERE IS NO MOTION, IT DIES, OR IF THERE'S A MOTION AND NO SECOND IT DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND, IF THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND, THEN A CALL FOR A VOTE, AND THEN YOU COULD MOVE ON TO ITEM B.
SO YOU'RE SAYING EMOTION FOR EITHER THE MCCARTHY RESOLUTION OR THE CITIZEN SUBMITTED RESOLUTION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION ON BOTH.
NO. JUST CALL FOR A MOTION ON EITHER.
OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION ON EITHER? I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE MCCARTHY RESOLUTION BE PASSED BY COUNCIL, AND I ACCEPT THAT THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO GO NOWHERE, BUT.
MISS HOUSE, I PARTICULARLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND I THINK IF.
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THIS, WE'RE GOING A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.WE COULD DO SOME EDITS TO MINE.
MAKE IT BETTER, AND, MR. ASLIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
ANYWAY, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND MR. MCCARTHY'S MOTION. ANY DISCUSSION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I. I OPPOSED I, I I.
SO, MAYOR, IF I COULD CLARIFY.
YES, PLEASE. THOSE I VOTES ON THE QUESTION OF OPPOSED.
OKAY. MOVING ON TO BE THE FAIR.
ARE THERE THREE COUNCILMEMBERS WHO WISH TO ADVANCE THIS TO A FUTURE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. THERE ARE NOT.
SO IT WILL NOT BE MOVED FORWARD.
ALL RIGHT. WE ARE READY TO CONTINUE WITH THE REST OF THE MEETING.
ITEM NUMBER 14 IS AN OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC.
[14. OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC]
FIRST UP, WE HAVE STEVEN YOUNG.IT LOOKS LIKE PERHAPS MR. YOUNG HAS LEFT.
THANKS A LOT. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, STAFF, CITIZENS.
I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT YOU GUYS DO A REALLY GOOD JOB.
SEE, I WANTED TO SAY THAT ALL THE TIME.
YES. STIRLING SOLOMON. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
AND THAT INCLUDES THE RIGHT TO RELIGIOUS SPEECH.
FOR THE RECORD, THE PROPER NAME OF THE CHURCH IS THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, AND WITH ALL THE RESPECT THAT I GIVE TO THE PROPER NAME FOR OTHER RELIGIONS, I WOULD JUST ASK FOR THE SAME RESPECT TO BE GIVEN TO THE CHURCH THAT I BELONG TO.
OKAY. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS TWO FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS.
[15. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS TO/FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL, AND STAFF, AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS]
I'LL START WITH COUNCILMEMBER MATTHEWS.I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS.
WHEN I WAS NOT FEELING WELL, AND I JUST ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE AN AMAZING FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE HAVE AN AMAZING EMT PEOPLE IN OUR CITY.
UNFORTUNATELY, I HAD TO USE THEIR SERVICES LAST WEEK AND I COULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN BETTER HANDS, AND SO I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THEM PERSONALLY.
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THEY WERE SO KIND, SO RESPECTFUL.I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THEM AND HOW COMFORTABLE THEY MADE ME FEEL.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
VICE MAYOR. I'M GLAD YOU'RE WELL, AND UP AND AT THEM.
I WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THE GREAT DIALOG TONIGHT AND THE THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATION.
I CONTINUE TO LEARN SO MUCH FROM EVERYONE ON THE DAIS.
I HOPE YOUR ELEVATOR GETS FIXED.
MISS CLEO'S TEA PARTY WAS AN AMAZING SUCCESS.
WE HAD LOTS OF FUN, LOTS OF GREAT RAFFLE.
YOU ALL NEED TO PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR.
THE LAST SUNDAY IN APRIL, AND I WAS JOINED BY TWO OF MY FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS AND THEY HAD A GREAT TIME, AND SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
ALL RIGHT. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
LAST WEEK AS WAS MENTIONED, VICE MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER, MCCARTHY, CITY MANAGER, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND CHRISTINE CAMERON WENT TO DC FOR OUR ANNUAL LOBBYING AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP OUR PROJECTS ON TRACK.
PRIOR TO THAT, I WENT WITH THE US CONFERENCE OF MAYORS TO LOBBY SPECIFICALLY ON HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING ISSUES, AND IT WAS PRETTY REMARKABLE TO SEE 50 MAYORS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY ADVOCATING FOR THE SAME THING, WHICH WAS ADDITIONAL VOUCHERS AND RELAXING SOME REGULATIONS THAT SOMETIMES PREVENT VETERANS FROM BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THESE VOUCHERS, AND IT WAS JUST VERY POWERFUL, AND WE HAD TWO STRAIGHT DAYS OF MEETINGS FROM SEVEN IN THE MORNING UNTIL WE WOULD MEET AFTER WE WERE UP ON THE HILL OR IN THE WHITE HOUSE, AND I WAS JUST I FELT VERY PRIVILEGED TO BE THERE.
SATURDAY IS TRAIN DAY AT 10 A.M.
AT THE VISITOR CENTER, AND I REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO PUT THIS ON THEIR CALENDARS.
THE COMMUNITY WATER RATES DROP IN AT THE AQUAPLEX FROM 11 TO 2, AND IT IS ON SATURDAY, MAY 18TH, AND ALSO THERE IS A RATE CALCULATOR WHERE YOU CAN LOOK UP HOW MUCH WHAT YOUR WATER RATES ARE LIKELY TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE, AND IT'S CLEAN WATER FLAGSTAFF.COM.
SO PLEASE COME TO THAT MEETING AND TALK TO STAFF ABOUT THIS ISSUE THAT IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO EVERY RESIDENT OF FLAGSTAFF.
I SAID THAT YOU WERE THERE, TOO, RIGHT? IN D.C.. YES.
WHEN I LOOKED AT YOU, I THOUGHT.
DID I SAY CITY MANAGER? OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
THIS WAS THERE WERE SOME VERY PROFOUND THINGS SAID TONIGHT FROM AUDIENCE MEMBERS AND FROM PEOPLE UP ON THIS DAIS, AND I APPRECIATE IT AND APPRECIATE YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
SO WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.