[00:00:02] CALLING THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AND TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 2021, TO [1. CALL TO ORDER NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this regular meeting, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).] ORDER. NO TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LEGAL ADVICE AND DISCUSSION FOR ANY OF THE AGENDA ITEMS. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR DEASY HERE. VICE MAYOR DAGGETT HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS PRESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET HERE. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE? I WOULD BE MY HONOR. LARGELY DUE TO THE FACT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. YOU COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, OUR MISSION STATEMENT, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL. BEFORE WE GET STARTED TODAY, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR. OUR CITY STAFF, FAMILY AND FRIENDS, IF YOU COULD PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS WITH ME FOR A MOMENT. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, IT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOR OUR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, DO WE HAVE ANYONE FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION TODAY? NOT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. WELL, THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE ARE PROCLAMATIONS AND [A. Proclamation: Adult Education and Family Literacy Week] RECOGNITIONS AND STARTING. THIS WOULD BE OUR PROCLAMATION FOR ADULT EDUCATION AND FAMILY LITERACY WEEK. IF SARAH AND DEBBIE, YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP FRONT AND COUNSEL IF WE CAN. YEAH, MOSEY ON FOURTH. IS THIS WHERE YOU WANT US? DO YOU WANT US OVER THERE? ALL RIGHT. PERFECT SWITCHEROO THIS PUPPY OVER HERE. ALL RIGHT. SARAH HAGGAI, AM I SAYING THAT IS THE ARIZONA STATE ADVOCATE FELLOW FOR THE COALITION ON ADULT BASIC EDUCATION AND OUR PROCLAMATION TODAY. MORE THAN FIFTY ONE POINT FOUR MILLION AMERICANS CAN'T READ OR WRITE AT THE MOST BASIC LEVEL, WHILE SEVENTY FIVE POINT ONE MILLION LACK BASIC MATH SKILLS, AS WELL AS THE CREDENTIALS AND SKILLS NECESSARY TO SUCCEED IN POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION. AND EVERY YEAR, ONE AND THREE YOUNG ADULTS DROPS OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL. THE AMERICAN ACTION FORUM ESTIMATES THAT BY 2020, AMERICA WILL BE SHORT, AN ESTIMATED SEVEN POINT FIVE MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR WORKERS ACROSS ALL SKILL LEVELS AND ADULT EDUCATION PROGRAMS CONTRIBUTE TO SOLVING THESE CHALLENGES BY HELPING AMERICANS MOVE ALONG THE CONTINUUM IN THEIR EDUCATIONAL JOURNEY TO ACHIEVE BASIC SKILLS AND GET PREPARED FOR CAREER AND COLLEGE. AND ADULT EDUCATION PROGRAMS AND COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND COMMUNITY CENTERS OFFER LOW COST, HIGH VALUE PROGRAMS THAT UPGRADE THE SKILL SETS OF OUR CITIZENS. CITY OF FLAGSTAFF CELEBRATES ADULT EDUCATION AND LITERACY WEEK AS A PROUD PARTICIPANT IN THE NATIONAL EDUCATE AND ELEVATE CAMPAIGN, WHICH HELPS OUR CITIZENS LEARN ABOUT ALL OF THEIR ADULT EDUCATION OPTIONS TO ATTAIN THEIR PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL GOALS. THEREFORE, I. MAYOR PAUL DEASY, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 19 THROUGH THE TWENTY FIFTH TWENTY TWENTY ONE AS ADULT EDUCATION AND LITERACY WEEK. THANK YOU, SARAH. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO GO. HELLO, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS SARAH HAGGIE. THIS WEEK IS ADULT EDUCATION AND FAMILY LITERACY WEEK. THIS IS THE WEEK THAT WE WANT TO CELEBRATE THE RESILIENCE OF OUR STUDENTS, THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE WORKING ON THEIR HIGH SCHOOL EQUIVALENCY DIPLOMA, AND ALSO THOSE REFUGEES AND IMMIGRANTS WHO WANT TO IMPROVE THEIR ENGLISH AND CONTRIBUTE TO THIS SOCIETY AND BE AN ACTIVE MEMBER. OUR PURPOSE FOR THIS WEEK IS TO GAIN VISIBILITY OF THE GOOD WORK THAT WE ARE DOING AND ALSO WE WANT TO DO AN ADVOCACY WORK TO GET MORE OF THESE SERVICES TO OUR [00:05:05] MEMBERS OF COMMUNITY. I'M HERE WITH DEBBIE. DEBBIE WORKS AT COCONINO COMMUNITY COLLEGE. THEY HAVE AN ADULT BASIC EDUCATION PROGRAM THAT THEY SERVE THE STUDENTS. I JUST PASS IT TO DEBBIE. OK. HI, EVERYONE. I'M GLAD TO BE HERE TODAY, AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT OUR MAYOR AND OUR COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THE WORK THAT WE DO AT THE LEVEL OF HIGH SCHOOL EQUIVALENCY AND ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNERS. THEY WORK SO HARD TO TRY AND GET TO WHERE THEY CAN IMPROVE THEIR LIVES AND HAVE A LIVING WAGE. SO WE OFFER NOT ONLY JUST, UH, CLASSES WITH ENGLISH LANGUAGE OR HELPING THEM LEARN THE ANSWERS FOR THE TEST FOR THE GED TEST. BUT WE ALSO OFFER PROGRAMS THAT HELP THEM LEARN SKILLS AND TRADES THAT THEY CAN GO ON AND BE CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS TO THE SOCIETY. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF EVERYONE'S SUPPORT AND LIKE SARAH SAID, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANT TO KIND OF BUILD SOME AWARENESS THAT WE'RE HERE, WE'RE HELPING PEOPLE AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR FOR SUPPORTING US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [B. Proclamation: Flagstaff Symphony Orchestra 72nd Season] WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER RECOGNITION FOR TODAY OF THE FLAGSTAFF SYMPHONY OF TIM LARRY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME DOWN. CELEBRATING ITS 70 SECOND SEASON, THE FLAGSTAFF SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA IS THE LARGEST AND MOST ACTIVE NONPROFIT PERFORMING ARTS ORGANIZATION IN NORTHERN ARIZONA, AND THE FSO ENRICHES, SERVES AND SHAPES THE REGION'S CULTURAL LIFE AND ACTS AS A POSITIVE DRIVER OF EMPLOYMENT AND TOURISM. AND SINCE 1950, THE FSO IS THRILLED AUDIENCES WITH EXCITING PERFORMANCES AND ENGAGING EDUCATION PROGRAMS LIKE THE CARNEGIE HALL LINK UP PROGRAM AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH INITIATIVES LIKE A FLAG FOURTH. THE FLAGSTAFF SYMPHONY IS COMPRISED OF THE FINEST PROFESSIONAL AND STUDENT MUSICIANS FROM THE REGION WITH A RICH LEGACY OF MUSICAL EXCELLENCE. AND LIKE OTHER FLAGSTAFF CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS, THE FSO HAS BEEN DRAMATICALLY IMPACTED BY THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC. FORCED TO CANCEL 11 LIVE PERFORMANCES AND LOSING SEVENTY NINE PERCENT OF ADMISSION REVENUE LAST SEASON. RESPONDING TO THE PANDEMIC WITH CREATIVITY AND DEDICATION, THE FSO PRODUCED OVER 20 ONLINE VIDEOS, INCLUDING AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL FOR JULY 4TH. TWO OUTDOOR CHAMBER CONCERT IN COLLABORATION WITH LOWELL OBSERVATORY AND THE MUSEUM OF NORTHERN ARIZONA. AND AN ONLINE VERSION OF THE NUTCRACKER BALLET, IN COLLABORATION WITH NEW MUSIC AND DANCE ACADEMY THAT RECEIVED THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE VIOLA AWARD FOR EXCELLENCE IN PERFORMING ARTS. THROUGHOUT THE PAST SEVENTY TWO YEARS, FLAGSTAFF SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA ORCHESTRAS VISION HAS REMAINED THE SAME TO SHARE BEAUTY AND INSPIRED JOY TO CREATE MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCES FOR FAMILIES, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. AND CULTIVATE GENERATIONS OF ARTISTS, EDUCATORS AND LEADERS THROUGH ITS MUSIC EDUCATION PROGRAMS. NOW, THEREFORE, I'M MAYOR PAUL JAY DEASY, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE FLAGSTAFF SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA AS A PRICELESS ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY AND WISH YOU AN AMAZING 70 SECOND SEASON. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. WELL, MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL WERE SO GRATEFUL FOR THIS RECOGNITION, AS YOU HEARD IN THE PROCLAMATION, IT'S BEEN A ROUGH YEAR AND A HALF, NOT JUST FOR THE SYMPHONY, BUT FOR ALL OF OUR CREATIVE ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN FLAGSTAFF. AND FRANKLY, WE WOULDN'T HAVE SURVIVED WITHOUT THE CITY'S HELP THROUGH THE V.V. TAXES THAT YOU PROVIDE, AS WELL AS THROUGH CREATIVE FLAGSTAFF, FORMERLY THE FLAGSTAFF ARTS COUNCIL. AND DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF RECENTLY HELPED US PUT ON THE TRADITIONAL FOURTH OF JULY CONCERT, OUR FIRST LIVE CONCERT SINCE THE PANDEMIC BEGAN, WHICH WAS A TERRIFIC SUCCESS AND WE COULDN'T DO THAT WITHOUT YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. SO WE'RE SO VERY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR SEVENTY TWO YEARS REALLY OF CITY AND FLAGSTAFF SYMPHONY COLLABORATION AND WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE OUR CITY A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PROCLAMATION. [00:10:01] WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. I DID WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE OUR BOARD PRESIDENT HERE, THIS IS TIM DOAT FROM ALLIANCE BANK. TIM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? SURE. THANK YOU, LARRY. AGAIN, JUST IT'S A WONDERFUL COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY. WE'RE HONORED TO BE RECOGNIZED IN THIS WAY. IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, AND WE'RE PROUD TO BE A PART OF THAT CULTURAL ENRICHMENT THAT WE'VE PROVIDED THE CITY AND JUST VERY THANKFUL FOR FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE GETTING OUT OF THE COVID AND COMING BACK TOGETHER AND SOMEWHAT FINDING HEALING THROUGH MUSIC AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I WILL NOTE THE FIRST CONCERT OF THE SEASON IS ON FRIDAY, WHERE BEETHOVEN IS THE YEAH, KEY ASPECT, I'LL BE THERE. YOU SHOULD ALL BE THERE TOO. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, CANCEL. ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, OUR CITY MANAGER [6. CITY MANAGER REPORT] REPORT. CITY MANAGER, TAKE IT AWAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL. THE REPORT THIS TIME IS A LITTLE BIT ON THE BRIEF SIDE, BUT THAT BALANCES OUT THE HEFTY REPORT YOU HAD LAST TIME APPENDED TO THIS REPORT IS THE MONTHLY FROM THE WATER SERVICES DIVISION. YOU'LL NOTE THAT THAT'S AN AUGUST REPORT, AND WE'RE ALWAYS REPORTING A LITTLE BIT AFTER THE FACT SO WE CAN GIVE YOU UPDATES ON THINGS THAT ARE OR HAVE HAPPENED OR ARE HAPPENING IN THIS REPORT, AS WE WILL ENDEAVOR TO DO ONCE A MONTH. WE ARE RECOGNIZING SOME WORK ANNIVERSARIES. AND I WOULD INVITE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE. WE'RE SO PROUD OF OUR MANY EMPLOYEES WHO ARE CELEBRATING SIGNIFICANT TENURE WITH THE CITY IN THE 10 YEAR CATEGORY, NOT TENURE, BUT 10 YEARS. WE HAVE AMY BERRY WITH. SHE'S RECREATION LEADER. CONGRATULATIONS, AMY DOESN'T EVER HURT A POLICE OFFICER. ALSO CELEBRATING 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS. JUAN HUERTA, EQUIPMENT OPERATOR. RICHARD SIDNEY WITH OUR WATER SERVICES, I HOPE I'M GETTING THESE NAMES CORRECT. FORGIVE ME IF I DON'T. ROBERT CUNNINGHAM ALSO WITH WATER SERVICES, ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS CELEBRATING THEIR 15 YEAR ANNIVERSARY AND THEN AND STARTING A NEW FORMAT. HERE, WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL OUT THOSE WHO ARE CELEBRATING SIGNIFICANT WORK ANNIVERSARIES, WHICH COULD BE DEFINED AS, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS OR MORE OF SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY THIS MONTH. WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE DEPUTY CHIEF FRANK HIGGINS WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT OF. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY FRANK. WE ALL KNOW FRANK ON A FIRST NAME BASIS, BUT IT'S NOT OUT OF DISRESPECT TO HIS RANK. FRANK JOINED THE CITY 32 YEARS AGO, AND IN YOUR PACKET YOU HAVE A NICE PHOTO AND A VERY NICE NARRATIVE OF THE MANY, MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT HE HAS HAD AN AMAZING CAREER PATH THAT STARTED OUT A LONG TIME AGO PRIOR TO HIS LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER WITH A TWO ENLISTMENT SERVICE WITH THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS. HE IS A MULTITALENTED MULTI-SKILLED INDIVIDUAL WHO BRINGS TO YOU A SENSE OF HUMOR, HAS A ALWAYS A PERMANENT SMILE ON HIS FACE, HAS SERVED THIS COMMUNITY SO WELL, WAS THE RECIPIENT OF A CITY MANAGER'S AWARD OF EMPLOYEE FOR EMPLOYEE EXCELLENCE, ALONG WITH SOME LIFE SAVING RECOGNITIONS, AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. SO WE'RE SO HONORED TO RECOGNIZE HIM HERE, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE HIM IN THE ROOM TODAY. AND I THOUGHT IF I'M NOT OVERSTEPPING BOUNDARIES HERE, THAT WE MIGHT ASK DEPUTY CHIEF HIGGINS TO COME UP AND SHARE A WORD OR TWO WITH YOU. YES, PLEASE. [00:15:01] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JUST LIKE TO SAY IT'S BEEN A GOOD CAREER, WHICH I'M GOING TO END ON FRIDAY BECAUSE I'M GOING TO RETIRE, SO IT'S BEEN A GOOD ROAD WORK WITH SOME OF THE BEST PEOPLE IN THE STATE, DEFINITELY WORKING FOR THE HARDEST AGENCY IN THE STATE. SO IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE TO SERVE. DEPUTY CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. YOU'RE WELCOME AND YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR. WELL, THAT'S SUBJECTIVE. SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT. I LIKE IT. WE WE ALL WANT TO WISH YOU AND WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS AGAIN. BUT WE WANT TO WISH YOU THE BEST IN THE RETIREMENT AHEAD. WELL DESERVED, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. YEAH. IF IF IT'S OK, I MIGHT ALSO ASK OUR POLICE CHIEF, CHIEF MUSSELMAN, TO COME UP AND MAYBE SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR PERSPECTIVES HE HAS NO, NO. STORIES CHIEF, JUST GOOD STUFF. YEAH, SO FRANK RETIRES THIS FRIDAY WITH OVER THREE DECADES OF SERVICE, HE'S OUTLIVED SEVERAL POLICE CHIEFS AND GIVEN SEVERAL POLICE CHIEFS PLENTY OF GRAY HAIR. A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS TO HIS CAREER INCLUDE DOING A MOTOR ESCORT FOR PRESIDENT CLINTON AND VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE FROM FLAGSTAFF TO THE GRAND CANYON. HE WAS ONE OF THE OFFICERS THAT SWAM OUT INTO THE FLOODED CONTINENTAL GOLF COURSE WHEN IT FLOODED TO SAVE A COUPLE OF KIDS WHO HAD CAPSIZED IN A BOAT. HE SAYS IT WAS A LITTLE COLD THEN, BUT I DON'T KNOW. AND THEN ALSO SOMETHING NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEARTS. FRANK WAS INVOLVED IN THE CAPTURE OF ERIC CLARK, AND ERIC CLARK WAS THE SUSPECT WHO MURDERED OUR OFFICER, JEFF MERRITT'S, SEVERAL YEARS AGO. FRANK'S 32 YEARS OF SERVICE INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM FORENSIC COMPUTER EXAMINERS TO ON THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM BOMB TECHNICIAN, THE AWARDS. HE'S GOT OVER 40 ACCOMMODATIONS AND THANK YOU'S IN HIS FILE. AND WE'RE GOING TO MISS HIM WHEN HE LEAVES US. HIS SARCASTIC SENSE OF HUMOR WILL CERTAINLY BE MISSED, AND HE RETIRES AS THE MOST SENIOR EMPLOYEE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AS OUR DEPUTY CHIEF OVER SUPPORT SERVICES. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY, IF THIS SEEMS LIKE A FORMAT THAT YOU CAN LIVE WITH. WE'D LIKE TO DO THIS ONCE A MONTH, RECOGNIZE ALL THE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE CELEBRATING THE WORK ANNIVERSARIES AND MAYBE EMBARRASS A COUPLE ALONG THE WAY BY HAVING THEM CHAT WITH YOU AND SHARING THEIR COMMENTS. ALSO IN THE REPORT SOME TIDBITS AND UPDATES FROM OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, SOME RESCUE ATTEMPTS OR SUCCESSFUL RESCUE ATTEMPTS. I WILL SAY WE LIKE POINTING THOSE OUT. AN UPDATE FROM HUMAN RESOURCES AND UPDATE FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. PARKS AND REC. AND OPEN SPACE AND EVENTS, WHICH WE CALL PROS. SOME NICE UPDATES THERE, INCLUDING SOME DATA ON TRAIL USAGE. ALSO, A LITTLE BLURB ABOUT SOME COMMUNITY SERVICE WITH CUB SCOUT PACK SEVEN THIRTY SIX AND HELPING OUT UP ON MCMILLAN MESA. SOME UPDATES WITH PUBLIC WORKS DOING SOME VEGETATIVE WORK. AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SAMPLING OF WHAT'S IN THE REPORT. WHAT IS REALLY IMPRESSIVE ALSO IS THE THE AD ON MONTHLY REPORT FROM WATER SERVICES, PROPS TO LISA DEME AND THE TEAM FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. IT'S A NICE UPDATE FOR YOU. AND YOU CAN EXPECT AS WE GO FORWARD TO HAVE THESE UPDATES FROM VARIOUS DIVISIONS LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES. COUNCIL MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME? COUNCIL. SWIMMER SHIMONI, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE AND CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO WAS ACKNOWLEDGED IN THAT REPORT. I JUST WANTED TO JUST EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO BRETT PETERSON WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ENGINEERS FOR ALL OF HIS SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S JUST THAT'S IT FOR NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI. ARE IN WITH THAT, WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS OUR COUNCIL [7. COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS AND INFORMATIONAL ITEMS AND REPORTS FROM COUNCIL AND STAFF] LIAISON REPORTS. HOW ABOUT WE GO BACK IN THE DAY WHEN WE WERE DOING IT ALPHABETICALLY? WE'LL START WITH VICE MAYOR. NOTHING TO REPORT OTHER THAN BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THE 10 YEAR PLAN HOUSING PLAN FROM [00:20:04] THE HOUSING COMMISSION. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT FROM THE PAST WEEK, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MENTION THAT ON FRIDAY, THE THE THE COCONINO PLATEAU WATER ADVISORY COUNCIL IS DOING ITS RETURNING TO ITS ANNUAL FIELD TRIP TWO YEARS AGO. WE DRAFTED THE COLORADO RIVER BETWEEN GLEN CANYON AND LEE'S FERRY. I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE HE JOINED US ON THAT ADVENTURE THIS YEAR. NOT SOMETHING SO ADVENTUROUS, BUT WE ARE GOING TO PAIR AND RANCH FOR THE DAY AND THERE SHOULD BE ABOUT 30 OR 40 PEOPLE ON THIS FIELD TRIP. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY. HER THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST QUICKLY MENTION THAT I TOURED TINKER TOVIA ABOUT A WEEK AGO WITH MY WIFE, AND THAT WAS A VERY REWARDING EXPERIENCE. I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GET OUT THERE THAT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY. AND THEN FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, I SPENT IT PICKETING THE PINES AND HEARD SOME REALLY GOOD MUSIC. SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU, LUCKY COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS. UM, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ARE WE DOING BOTH A LIAISON REPORT AND THE INFORMATIONAL ITEMS? YES. OK, THANK YOU. YES, I'LL COME BACK TO YOU THEN. YEAH. SO FOR THE CONSULTATION REPORT, THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING WAS WAS CANCELED YESTERDAY DUE TO LACK QUORUM AND THE CHAIR, THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION ALSO RESIGNED LAST. FRIDAY. UM, AND THEN ON BEHALF OF THE TOURISM COMMISSION, I ATTENDED THE GROUNDBREAKING OR NOT GROUNDBREAKING RIBBON CUTTING OF THIS PILOT PROGRAM, WHICH IS A PARTNERSHIP OF MODEL BREWING COMPANY INTRODUCING BREWERY IN THE NORTHERN ARIZONA AIR PROGRAM, WHERE STUDENTS ARE BREWING THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY ALE FOR MOTHER ROAD. SO THIS WILL SIGNAL THE THE ADULT PROGRAM THAT WILL BE INTRODUCED NEXT MONTH FOR INTRODUCTION TO SCIENCE AND ALSO SIGNAL NEXT YEAR'S INTEGRATION OF BREWERY IN THE, ERM, DEGREE. SO IT'S. IT'S A VISUAL CONCRETE PARTNERSHIP OF BUSINESS AND ACADEME PRODUCING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FUTURE. IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE, THOUGH, THAT THE CURRENT DIRECTOR FOR FOR CULTURE FOR MOTHERLOAD STARTED HIS CAREER IN THE BREWERY AS AN INTERN. SO EVENTUALLY, THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM WITH THE MICROBREWERIES WILL ALSO BE STRENGTHENED IN THE FUTURE. AND THEN FOR INFORMATION ON ITEM LAST SATURDAY, I HAD THE HONOR TO ATTEND, THEN THE NATIVE AMERICANS FOR COMMUNITY ACTION 50TH CELEBRATION, TWIN ARROWS. ALL IN ORDER TO TO WITNESS AND LISTEN TO THE THE EVOLUTION AND THE HISTORY OF THE ORGANIZATION AND THAT AND HOW IT IS MOVING FORWARD. SO THANK YOU TO ALL THE PARTNERS OF NAKA. THAT'S IT FOR NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, THANK YOU, MAYOR. IN MY UPDATES WILL BE SHORT. I ALSO GOT TO TURN THAT NAKA 50TH ANNIVERSARY EVENT. THAT WAS REALLY A WONDERFUL EVENT, AND THANK YOU ESPECIALLY TO ROSE TOHE WHO HELPED EMCEE THE EVENT. BUT ALSO I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE TRIBAL SUMMIT HEALTH CHOICE EVENT CONFERENCE THAT OCCURRED WITH VICE MAYOR FOR A PORTION OF ONE OF THE DAYS. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WAS REALLY, WELL, JUST A REALLY SUCCESSFUL EVENT ON ALL. AND MAYOR, THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IS IS THAT OUR TOWN HALL, BUT MAYBE YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO IT, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THINKI THINK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER SUITE. THANK YOU. [00:25:01] LET'S SEE, WE HAVE THE FIVE YEAR BACKPACK BUDGET RETREAT HAPPENING OCTOBER 29TH AND THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME TO ATTEND. THE DEADLINE FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION AND ACTION GRANTS THAT IS COMING UP SEPTEMBER TWENTY SEVEN. AND WE REALLY ARE ENCOURAGING THE PUBLIC TO COLLABORATE WITH THE CITY IN BEAUTIFYING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN OUR CITY IN GENERAL, AND A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO ELIZA KREUTZMANN, JANA WELDON AND CRAIG ZENKO. THEY HAVE BEEN AMAZING. THEY HAVE HAD A LOT OF COMPLETED PROJECTS IN THE PAST YEAR AND I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE TO DO A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO THEM AS WELL AS VICE-CHAIR LABAKI. VERY HARDWORKING GROUP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SUITE. VICE MAYOR, YOU HAD ANOTHER THING YOU WANTED DEAD. YES, I HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR THE INFORMATIONAL ITEMS. ON SUNDAY, I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO MEET THE DEPUTY CONSUL GENERAL FOR THE MEXICAN CONSULATE AT THE SUNNY SIDE CELEBRATION. ALSO THE NAKA 50TH ANNIVERSARY GALA AND JUST REMINDING THE PUBLIC THAT NAKA IS HAVING AN OPEN HOUSE THIS THURSDAY FROM FOUR TO SEVEN. AND ANYONE WHO HAS WORKED IN A NONPROFIT KNOWS WHAT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT IT IS TO REACH ONE YEAR OLD, LET ALONE 50 YEARS OLD. I HAD A NICE MEETING WITH A KONA, THE ECONOMIC COLLABORATIVE OF NORTHERN ARIZONA, AND FINALLY JUST REMINDING PEOPLE ABOUT THE FESTIVAL OF SCIENCE. I ATTENDED AN ONLINE PRESENTATION CALLED THE STATE OF THE CLIMATE UPDATES ON CLIMATE SCIENCE, WHICH WAS EXCELLENT, AND YOU CAN VIEW THIS ON THEIR YOUTUBE CHANNEL. SO YOU HAVE THE THE FESTIVAL OF SCIENCE IS ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH, SO YOU'VE STILL GOT TIME TO GET IN ON SOME OF THE GREAT EVENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. WELL, I WILL ADD THAT IN ADDITION TO NATURE'S AMAZING WORK WITH 50 YEARS OF ANNIVERSARY, WE ALSO HAVE THE 48 YEAR ANNIVERSARY FOR THE ASSISTANCE LEAGUE OF FLAGSTAFF THAT THEN ALSO HAS BEEN HELPING TO SERVE SO MANY PROGRAMS IN OUR COMMUNITY FROM PROVIDING OPERATION SCHOOL BELL HELPING WITH CLOTHING AND BOOKS FOR CHILDREN, TO HELPING SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, TO REALLY A LOT OF WORK FOR OUR HOMELESS. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THEY CONTINUE TO DO IN THERE IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE NINE PROGRAMS THAT THEY ARE IN ARE SPEARHEADING FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH 40 YEARS AGO THEY STARTED WITH JUST ONE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI HAD BRIEFLY MENTIONED, THERE IS A SPECIAL WORK SESSION OF COUNCIL ON FRIDAY FROM ONE TO THREE P.M. THAT IS SPECIFIC TO DISCUSSING OUR ALTERNATE RESPONSE SYSTEM, WHICH IS AS MANY KNOW. AS OF JUNE, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IN THE BUDGET 2.3 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS TO FUND A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SPECIALIST AND MEDIC IN A VAN RESPONDING TO CERTAIN 9-1-1 CALLS. AND WE ARE DISCUSSING THE NEXT STEPS FORWARD ON FRIDAY WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS AND OUR COMMUNITY GETTING THE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE WE ARE CREATING A PROGRAM THAT BEST SERVES THE COMMUNITY. SO ONE TO THREE P.M., IT WILL BE AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY AND IN PERSON, BUT I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THAT HERE IN CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS. WITH THAT, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THE JAMES TURRELL, A 44 YEAR RESIDENT OF COCONINO COUNTY AND FLAGSTAFF HAS ONE WHAT IS CONSIDERED THE NOBLE PRIZE FOR SCULPTURE THE PREMIUM IMPERIAL. AND I WANTED TO PROVIDE SPECIAL RECOGNITION FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL'S AMAZING ARTWORK THAT'S DONE IN THIS COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS IN MUSEUMS AROUND THE WORLD AND WHAT AMAZING AWARD THAT THAT THAT WAS AND IS. SO WITH THAT, I GUESS I'LL BACKTRACK TO THE COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS WITH OUR DIVERSITY AWARENESS. THEY ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT OUR OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT BY THE CITY. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN FOR PRESENTING AND PUSHING THAT FORWARD, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE INDIGENOUS COMMISSION, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE IN THAT LANGUAGE AND [00:30:01] WE'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE. MANY OF THESE INITIATIVES FOR THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED IN THESE COMMISSIONS. SO ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, OUR COVID 19 UPDATE. [9. COVID-19 UPDATE] THANK YOU, MAYOR DEASY. I'LL PULL UP THE PRESENTATION. SO THIS EVENING, WE HAVE FOR YOU AN UPDATE ON THE LATEST DATA, AS WELL AS THE INDIGENOUS NATIONS UPDATE FROM ROSE TOHE. WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR WEEKLY CASES, WE ARE SEEING A DECREASE IN THE OVERALL NUMBER OF CASES FROM THE THREE SEVENTY FOUR TO THREE THIRTY FOUR BETWEEN THE WEEK ENDING SEPTEMBER 4TH AND SEPTEMBER 11TH. WE CONTINUE TO SEE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF CASES IN OUR FLAGSTAFF AREA, WE ARE THE BLUE LINE, THEY'RE AT THE TOP, FOLLOWED BY THE TRIBAL COMMUNITIES. WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR HOSPITAL ADMISSIONS, WE ARE SEEING ANOTHER UPTICK IN THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE BEING ADMITTED DUE TO COVID. WE CONTINUE TO SEE OUR LARGEST AGE GROUPS BE SIXTY FIVE AND OLDER AND AGES 20 TO 40 FOR. LOOKING AT OUR HOSPITAL ADMISSIONS FOR FLAGSTAFF MEDICAL CENTER, THIS IS A REPORT THAT'S CREATED BY COCONINO COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES BASED ON DATA THAT THEY RECEIVE THE THURSDAY OF THAT WEEKLY REPORT, SO THEY'RE SHOWING ZERO PERCENT AVAILABILITY FOR COVID PATIENTS. AGAIN, THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE SEE FROM THE LATER CHART FROM FLAGSTAFF MEDICAL CENTER'S WEBSITE, BECAUSE THIS IS LOOKING AT NOT ONLY THE NUMBER OF BEDS, BUT THE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO CARE FOR THOSE BEDS. WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR NUMBER OF COVID DEATHS, WE DID SEE QUITE A PEAK THAT WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 4TH WITH FOUR COVID RELATED DEATHS. BUT WE HAVE HAD ZERO REPORTED FOR THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 11TH. LOOKING AT OUR COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION, WE CONTINUE TO BE IN HIGH SEEING THE TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX POINT ONE PER HUNDRED THOUSAND IS LOWER THAN THE WEEK PRIOR. BUT WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE IN OUR POSITIVITY RATE NOW AT SEVEN POINT THREE FOR THIS WEEK AND FIVE POINT TWO PERCENT FOR THE COVID LIKE ILLNESSES. OUR NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE IN COCONINO COUNTY THAT ARE VACCINATED CONTINUES TO CLIMB, THIS MOST RECENT NUMBER WAS FROM THIS LAST TUESDAY, AND IT WAS AT FIFTY EIGHT POINT ONE PERCENT. OUR COVID VARIANTS, WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEE AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF DELTA VARIANT THAT IS HERE IN COCONINO COUNTY. THE ALPHA VARIANT STAYED STATIC FOR THIS WEEKLY REPORT. THESE SAMPLES ARE STILL FROM THE MONTH OF AUGUST. THEY HAVE NOT TESTED ANY SAMPLES YET FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER. THE NUMBER OF DELTA IS NOW AT FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY NINE SAMPLES. AGAIN, HERE'S THAT CHART FOR FLAGSTAFF MEDICAL CENTER THAT COMES FROM THE NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTH CARE WEBSITE. THEY ARE REPORTING THAT THERE ARE 40 POSITIVE COVID PATIENTS CURRENTLY IN THE CENTER AND THAT ONE IS PENDING. AND THIS DATA WAS AS OF SEPTEMBER 20TH, SO WAS PRIOR TO OR FOLLOWING THE REPORT THAT YOU SAW FROM COCONINO COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. SO I BELIEVE ROSE MAY BE ONLINE ROSE, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT FROM HERE. GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU, SHARON. AND HELLO TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE AUDIENCE AND CITY STAFF. THIS IS THE INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE NAVAJO NATION AS WELL AS HOPI TRIBE AND ACCORDING TO THE NAVAJO NATION HEALTH FACILITIES, THESE ARE THE DATA FOR THE PAST 60 DAYS IN BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 1ST AND SEPTEMBER 16TH. [00:35:02] SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TOTAL AMOUNT TESTED IS STILL PRETTY HIGH AT TWELVE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND THEN THE NEGATIVE CASES AGAIN ARE ALSO SEEM TO BE PRETTY GOOD UP THERE. AS FAR AS TEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED SEVENTY EIGHT, CONFIRMED POSITIVE CASES ARE STILL PRETTY HIGH, AT LEAST IN THIS TIME FRAME, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE LAST 32, WHICH IS 744. SO 44 RECOVERIES ARE STILL ALSO PRETTY HIGH. THE DEATHS ARE AT TWENTY FOUR RIGHT NOW AND THIS IS 16 DAYS, WHICH IS A GOOD, I GUESS, AN INDICATOR FROM THE LAST 30 DAYS, WHICH IS ALSO, I THINK, TEST THAT WAS LIKE TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THEY'RE GOING THERE, TESTING AND TRYING TO GET THE NUMBERS STILL RAMPED UP. AS FAR AS TESTING, I THINK, IS REALLY GOOD. GO AHEAD, SHANNON. THE NEXT SLIDE. THERE MAY BE A DELAY. CAN YOU SEE IT NOW, ROSE? OH, YEAH. OK, GREAT. ALL RIGHT, IN THIS 15 DAYS, HE'LL BE TESTED THE TOTAL AMOUNT AT SEVEN HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX AND THEN NEGATIVE TEST IS THAT TEST AT SIX 60, POSITIVE AT 52 AND HOPI TRIBAL MEMBERS OUT OF THAT NUMBER WERE 51 TRIBAL MEMBERS THAT HAD POSITIVE CASES. SO THOSE ARE ABOUT THE SAME IN THE LAST 30 DAYS AS WELL, CONSIDERING IT'S ONLY 15 DAYS THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, AS FAR AS NAVAJO NATION IS CONCERNED, THE THE SUBJECT OF PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY ORDERS REMAIN THE SAME. THIS IS THE SAFER AT HOME ORDER AND AND THEY SAY IT CAN BE EXTENDED OR CHANGED. THIS ALSO STIPULATES WEARING A MASK IN PUBLIC IN PUBLIC IS STILL CONTINUES TO BE MANDATORY. CURRENTLY, THERE ARE NO DAILY CURFEWS FOR ADULTS. BUSINESSES ON NATION LANDS MUST COMPLY WITH ORANGE STATUS POLICIES AND ALSO REMAIN AT 50 PERCENT OCCUPANCY. THERE'S ALSO A SEPARATE PUBLIC ORDER ORDER DECLARATION FOR ORANGE STATUS RELATIVE TO SCHOOLS. ALL INDIVIDUALS AGED TWO AND OLDER SHALL WEAR MASKS, AND THEN THE HEALTH ADVISORY NOTICE FOR 35 COMMUNITIES INCLUDE THAT ON SEPTEMBER 13, NAVAJO NATION DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH THE ADVISORY NOTICE ISSUED UNCONTROLLED SPREAD OF COVID 19 ADVISORIES FOR 35 COMMUNITIES. AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO NOTING THAT SCHOOLS SERVING THESE COMMUNITIES NEED TO IMPLEMENT LAYERS OF MITIGATION TO MEET THE HIGH LEVEL OF COVID 19 COMMUNITY TRANSMISSIONS IN THESE COMMUNITIES. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE EXTEND POWER LINES TO HOMES IN DEL AND TONALLY, THE PRESS RELEASE. ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, PRESIDENT NEZ WAS REPORTED TO BE JOINED BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND DALE CODE CHAPTER OFFICIALS WHEN HE FINALIZED THIS GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN NAVAJO NATION AND NAVAJO UTILITY AUTHORITY NAVAJO TRIBAL UTILITY AUTHORITY TO EXTEND POWER LINES TO HOMES IN DUNCAN, ARIZONA. THIS PROVIDES A LONG AWAITED ELECTRICITY TO AT LEAST 24 20 FAMILIES, AND UNTIL A NAVAJO NATION DIVISION OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT COLLABORATED TO PROVIDE THIS BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE COMMUNITY OF DUNCAN, AND THAT'S FOR NAVAJO NATION TO HOPI TRIBE. AND THE TESTING OF SAMPLES CONFIRMED THE DELTA AND ALPHA VARIANTS ON SEPTEMBER 13TH, A MESSAGE FROM THE FROM MR ROYCE JENKINS, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH AUTHORITY ON HOPEY, STATED THAT THAT IN A RECENT TESTING, THE HOPI HEALTH CENTER, THE HOPI HEALTH CARE CENTER, HAD TESTED 38 SAMPLES THAT TESTED POSITIVE. AND OF THOSE 38 SAMPLES, 30 OF THEM WERE CONFIRMED TO BE THE DELTA VARIANT AND TWO ARE CONFIRMED TO BE THE ALPHA VARIANT AND THEN CONTINUING TO ENCOURAGE VACCINES AND ALSO RECOMMENDING IMMUNOCOMPROMISED TO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL DOSES OF THE VACCINE. THIS IS ON SEPTEMBER 8TH AGAIN, MR. JENKINS, DIRECTOR OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH AUTHORITY, HE SAID. [00:40:05] HE SAID THAT THE CD IS RECOMMENDING THAT PEOPLE ARE. THE CDC IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MODERATELY TO SEVERELY IMMUNE COMPROMISED. RECEIVE ADDITIONAL DOSES OF THE VACCINE. AND HE JUST SUGGESTED THAT IF YOU FEEL YOU PEOPLE, IF PEOPLE FEEL THEY ARE AT A HIGHER RISK TO CONTACT THEIR PROVIDER AND TO SEE IF THEY FIT A CRITERIA. AND THEN ALSO EVERYONE OVER THE AGE OF 12 IS RECOMMENDED TO GET VACCINATED ON HOPI LANDS AND TO FOR HOPI RESIDENTS TO CONTACT THE HOPI HEALTH CENTER. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ON THE HOPI AND NAVAJO NATION INFORMATION. THANK YOU, SHANNON. BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU, ROSE. SO NOW WE'RE HERE FOR COUNCIL QUESTIONS IN ORDER TO ANSWER ANYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR US. DAGGETT, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND MS. TOHE COUNSEL, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MUCH. WITH THAT BRINGS US DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 10, OUR LIQUOR LICENSE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY [10. LIQUOR LICENSE PUBLIC HEARINGS] IS THE CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION. BRIAN JAMES HOUSTON SQUARE ROOT FOODS TWENTY TWO TWENTY THREE EAST SEVENTH AVENUE SERIES 10. BEER AND WINE STORE. NEW LICENSE STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS NOW BEEN OPENED. DO WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THE INVESTIGATIONS REGARDING THIS? THANK YOU, COUNCIL AND MAYOR RYAN TURLEY FROM THE FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THE APPLICATIONS IN FRONT OF YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AND I'M NOT SAYING ANY FRACTIONS THROUGH THE INVESTIGATION. AND WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK TO THEY HAVE ONLINE OR? MAYOR, WE WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT ON APPLICANTS ONLINE, BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A REQUEST TO SPEAK, THEY SAID THEY ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR ITS STAFF? ALL RIGHT. WELL, WITH THAT EMOTION TO FORD, THE APPLICATION OF THE STATE WITH THE ACTUALLY MAYOR, WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO FORWARD THE APPLICATION OF THE STATE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. DO I HAVE A SECOND OR SECOND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SUITE? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR BY ANY OPPOSED THAT MOTION CARRIES ON TO 10B IS THE CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION. RYAN WHITNER ANDERSON FROM TARGET 16 50 SOUTH MILTON ROAD SERIES NINE LIQUOR STORE ALL SPIRITED SPIRITUS LIQUOR NEW APPLICATION OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ANY INFORMATION FROM STAFF ON THIS REGARD. MAYOR THANK YOU. RYAN TURLEY AGAIN. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS HE HAS THE APPLICANT HAD ANY REQUEST TO SPEAK? NO, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOTION TO FOR THE APPLICATION OF THE STATE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. I HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT SECOND VICE MAYOR DAGGETT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, I. ALL RIGHT. ANY POST THAT MOTION CARRIES? ALL RIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG, HERE WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 11 ARE ROUTINE ITEMS. 11A IS THE RECOGNITION OF BUS ART WINNERS AND RATIFICATION BEAUTIFICATION [A. Recognition of Bus Art Winners and Ratification: Beautification and Public Art Commission recommendations for Bus Art Project on Climate Change and Hope STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Ratify the contracts awarded by the Beautification and Public Arts Commission related to a bus art project on climate change and hope. ] AND PUBLIC ART COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BUS ART PROJECT ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOPE. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO RATIFY THE CONTRACTS AWARDED BY THE BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSION RELATED TO A BUS ART PROJECT ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOPE. THANK YOU, MS. GRISMAN. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I AM ELIZA KREUTZMANN, THE BEAUTIFICATION ARTS AND SCIENCES MANAGER HERE AT THE CITY, AND I AM HERE TODAY TO BRING YOU OUR BUS ART PROJECT FOCUSED ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOPE TO RECOGNIZE THE SELECTED ARTISTS AND FOR THE RATIFICATION OF THE CONTRACTS FOR THE SELECTED ARTISTS. SO FIRST, A BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE PROJECT. THE SPARK FOR THIS PROJECT CAME FROM OUR COMMISSIONS, THE BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ART COMMISSION AND THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION, WHO BROUGHT IT TO STAFF. THIS PROJECT WAS LED BY AN AMERICORPS VISTA MEMBER, SO I WANT TO THANK ERIN KOMOROWSKI FOR HER WORK ON THIS PROJECT. [00:45:01] AND THE REASON WE FOCUSED ON HOPE RATHER THAN MESSAGES OF DESPAIR IS THAT STUDIES SHOW THAT THAT ACTUALLY CREATES MORE PROLONGED ACTION TOWARDS CLIMATE CHANGE AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS WORKED. WE HAD ABOUT 20 APPLICANTS AND FIVE ARTISTS WERE SELECTED BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND MOVED FORWARD FOR APPROVAL BY THE BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ART COMMISSION, AND THESE ARE FOR DISPLAY ON MOUNTAIN LION BUSSES. ARTISTS RECEIVE A SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS FEE FOR THEIR DESIGNS, AND THE ART WILL BE ON DISPLAY FOR ABOUT ONE YEAR. SO NOW I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO RECOGNIZE THE ARTIST BY SHARING THEIR DESIGNS AND A BRIEF BIOGRAPHY OF EACH IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER. SO FIRST, WE HAVE LUKE GILES, LUKE IS A SENIOR AT FLAGSTAFF HIGH SCHOOL. LUKE WRITES IN HIS BIO, I HAVE A TECHNICAL MIND. I LOVE GRAPHIC DESIGN AND I HAVE A BIG SOFT SIDE. THE THINGS THAT MATTER MOST TO ME ARE FINDING LOVE LOVING A JOB THAT I WILL WORK FOR FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE AND CHERISHING THE THINGS THAT I ALREADY HAVE. NEXT UP IS DANA HAMBURG. DANA IS A LOCAL ARTIST BEST KNOWN FOR HER GRAPHIC ILLUSTRATION AND PORTRAITURE WORK. HER WORK HAS BEEN FEATURED IN THE HEART BOX GALLERY HERE IN FLAGSTAFF AND ALSO IN ASLAN SHOW IN SEDONA AND IN CREATE MAGAZINE. DANA WAS INVOLVED IN THE RECENT MURAL FOR SALSA BRAVA OFF OF ROUTE 66. LOOKING AHEAD, SHE INTENDS TO CONTINUE HER WORK IN COMMUNITY BASED PROJECTS AND FURTHER HER PERSONAL EXPLORATION AND UTILIZING PORTRAITURE AS A MEANS OF REPRESENTATION AND ADVOCACY. NATE NEECE IS A PHOTOGRAPHER AND A GRAPHIC DESIGNER FROM ARIZONA WHO GETS HIS INSPIRATION FROM THE NATURAL LANDSCAPES OF THE EARTH. HIS GOAL IS TO CONTINUE EXPLORING LANDSCAPES AROUND THE WORLD, SHOWCASING ONE OF A KIND LOCATIONS AND EMPHASIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING THEM. BEAU ARENAS ORTIZ IS A RECENT HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE WHO WORKS IN THE FIELDS OF GRAPHIC DESIGN AND VISUAL ARTS. HE EARNED CERTIFICATES IN GRAPHIC DESIGN AND ADOBE PHOTOSHOP AT FLAGSTAFF HIGH. HE'S PASSIONATE ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUES AND HOPES TO SPARK CHANGE WITH HIS DESIGNS. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE HAVE CAYLEE. QUICK CAYLEE IS A FLAGSTAFF BASED ARTIST THAT USES A VARIETY OF MEDIUMS TO CREATE WORK BOTH PHYSICAL AND DIGITAL. CAYLEE GRADUATED WITH A DEGREE IN ART EDUCATION IN 2009 FROM NIU AND CURRENTLY TEACHES GRAPHIC DESIGN AT FLAGSTAFF HIGH SCHOOL. AND IN FACT, SOME OF THE STUDENTS SOME OF HER STUDENTS ARE THE ARTIST DEASY SELECTED THIS EVENING. SO FINALLY, TO RECAP TODAY'S ITEM, WE ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO RECOGNIZE THE SELECTED ARTISTS AND TO ASK YOU FOR RATIFICATION OF THE ARTIST CONTRACTS FOR THIS PROJECT BECAUSE AS WE PREPARED FOR THIS ITEM, OUR LEGAL TEAM FELT WE NEEDED THESE TO BE RATIFIED RETROACTIVELY BY COUNCIL. YOU'LL ALSO SEE A FORTHCOMING ITEM FOR AN ORDINANCE CHANGE RELATED TO ARTWORK AND THE BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ART COMMISSION IN THE REGULAR AGENDA ADDRESSING THESE FAIRLY MINOR TECHNICAL CHANGES. THUS, WE NOW ASK YOU FOR YOUR RATIFICATION OF THE ARTIST CONTRACTS AND TO JOIN US IN RECOGNIZING THE SELECTED ARTISTS. SO THANK YOU AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MS. KRETSCHMANN. THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL ART, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE MESSAGE OF HOPE BECAUSE TOO MUCH WE HEAR SO MUCH DESPAIR OVER THE CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUE, AND THESE IMAGES DEFINITELY SPEAK TO THAT MISSION THAT SELECTED THESE INDIVIDUALS FOR THIS FOR THESE AWARDS. SO COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, THANK YOU, MARION, THANK YOU, ELIZA, AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK LUKE DANA, NATE BOE AND KAYLEE FOR THEIR EFFORTS. THIS IS BEAUTIFUL WORK AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THIS ON OUR BUSSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. EXCELLENT. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO RATIFY THE CONTRACTS AWARDED BY THE BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSION RELATED TO A BUS ART PROJECT ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOPE. MAYOR, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT REQUEST FOR THIS. OH MY GOODNESS. YES, WE DO. MY APOLOGIES. GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF THIS ROBIN KESSE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME SPEAK? MY APOLOGIES, I HAVE PAPERS EVERYWHERE UP HERE, I NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE ORGANIZED. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I ACTUALLY WROTE THE WRONG NUMBER ON MY CARD. I ACTUALLY WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE VEHICULAR NOISE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND I THINK I JUST WROTE THE WRONG NUMBER, SO I'LL WAIT FOR THAT TO COME AROUND. OK, NO PROBLEM. SORRY. NO, I'LL I'LL HOLD ON TO THIS AND MAKE SURE I'LL PUT IT OVER HERE. SO I DON'T FORGET THIS THING. I COUNCILWOMAN MCCARTHY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO. SAY THAT THIS IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF SEVERAL COMMISSIONS WORKING TOGETHER, WORKING WITH MOUNTAIN LION, WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS, AND THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACTS. [00:50:02] THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MCCARTHY OF THE MOTION ON THE TABLE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANY POST? THAT MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 11B, OUR UPDATE AND REVIEW WORKING CALENDAR AND [B. Update and Review: Working Calendar and Future Agenda Item Requests] FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS. MS. SALTZBURG. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU TODAY. I'M STACEY SALTZBURG, I'M YOUR CITY CLERK. UM, SO COUNCIL HAS REQUESTED PERIODIC UPDATES ON THE WORKING CALENDAR AND PENDING FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS, SO I'M HERE TODAY TO JUST PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT. SO ON THE SCREEN HERE IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU'LL SEE OUR CURRENT WORKING CALENDAR. I'M NOT GOING TO BORE YOU BY GOING THROUGH EACH ONE OF OUR UPCOMING MEETINGS SPECIFICALLY. BUT YOU WILL NOTE, AS I KIND OF SCROLL THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE SOME VERY FULL AGENDAS COMING OUR WAY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. THERE IS A LOT OF GREAT WORK THAT'S GOING ON WITH STAFF, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING THOSE THINGS TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION. SOME OF THE ITEMS OF NOTE OR INTEREST THAT ARE COMING VERY SOON ARE THE 10 YEAR HOUSING PLAN. WE HAVE AN UPCOMING RETREAT NEXT WEEK ON VARIOUS INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. WE HAVE THE BüLOW UNIVERSITY ROADWAY PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE ARPA DISCUSSION, JUST TO NAME A FEW. BUT THERE IS A LOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW. AND SO IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A MOMENT AS I SCROLL THROUGH THIS, I KNOW IT'S. DIZZY. BUT I WANTED TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, SORRY. OK. WE JUST. ALL RIGHT. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PENDING FAIR ITEMS, BOTH NEW REQUESTS, SO THAT'S THIS NEEDS THREE AND SUPPORT CATEGORY, AS WELL AS SOME THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING FORMULATED AND VETTED BY STAFF. SO THIS IS THAT SEEKING COUNCIL DIRECTION COLUMN THAT YOU SEE HERE. AND WE'RE HOPING TO GET THESE ITEMS BACK TO YOU SOON, BUT THEY YOU KNOW, IT'S TAKING SOME TIME FOR US TO PUT THEM TOGETHER, MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING IN LINE BEFORE WE PRESENT THEM TO YOU. BUT THEY ARE HERE. WE ARE WORKING ON THEM. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON GETTING THESE RECENT FARE REQUESTS BROUGHT FORWARD AT A COUNCIL MEETING TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL AND IF THERE'S SUPPORT FOR A LARGER CONVERSATION. BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF GOING ON RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF BIG PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. SO IT IS TAKING JUST A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. AND SO SORRY, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT POSSIBLE WAYS OF MAYBE COMBINING SOME OF THESE REQUESTS WITH OTHER THINGS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD AS THEY MIGHT BE RELATED. AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN, YOU KNOW, KNOCK A FEW OF THEM OUT AT ONE TIME. UM, SO AT THAT POINT, I'M GOING TO JUST STOP REAL QUICK, SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON KIND OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY PENDING. MAYBE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE COMING UP IN THE FUTURE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THOSE NOW. COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MS. SALTZBURG FOR FOR THIS THOROUGH PRESENTATION. I JUST TRIGGERS WHATEVER HAPPENED TO MY FARE ITEM ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE COST RECOVERY POLICY CITYWIDE. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER. MY APOLOGIES, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE AN ANSWER AS TO WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT. BUT I DO RECALL THAT FAIR. I WILL DO SOME RESEARCH AND GET THAT BACK ON THERE, SO I DO APOLOGIZE, BUT THANK YOU. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CROSSING ALL THOSE T'S AND DOTTING THOSE I'S. SO I WILL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT FOR SURE. THANK YOU, MS. SALTZBURG. THANK YOU. MS. SALTZBURG. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR. CAN YOU HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY CAN SEE THESE AGENDAS? ANY TIME THEY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S COMING UP ON OUR AGENDA? MOST DEFINITELY. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. AND ACTUALLY, THAT WAS MY NEXT NOTE. AFTER QUESTIONS, SO OUR WORKING CALENDAR IS POSTED EVERY FRIDAY AFTERNOON ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. THERE IS A KIND OF COUNCIL MEETING. CITY COUNCIL PAGE THAT HAS A LINK THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO THAT WORKING CALENDAR. THE ONE CAVEAT THAT I PUT OUT THERE IS THAT THIS WORKING CALENDAR LITERALLY CHANGES [00:55:01] MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY. SO WHAT YOU MAY SEE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE MIGHT CHANGE SLIGHTLY WEEK TO WEEK, BUT THAT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR YOU TO SEE ALL OF THE STUFF THAT'S UPCOMING. ANYTHING THAT'S CURRENTLY PENDING AND KIND OF THIS FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUEST SECTION, BUT IT IS FULLY ACCESSIBLE BY THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. MS. SALTZBURG. BECAUSE WE'RE OURSELVES. MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANT I WANT I JUST WANT TO GET IT ON THE RECORD THAT WE GOT A MESSAGE FROM MR. TEDDER, OUR MANAGEMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, THAT THE COST RECOVERY POLICY IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 9TH WORK SESSION. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. SEE, I HAD ALREADY SCHEDULED IT, WHICH IS WHY I TOOK IT OFF THIS LIST. SO THANK YOU, MR. TATTER. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MUCH. THAT BRINGS US DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 12 A.. [A. Consideration and Adoption of Ordinance No. 2021-22: An ordinance of the City Council of the City of Flagstaff clarifying the duties of the Beautification and Public Art Commission, and clarifying that the Procurement Code Manual procedures apply to expenditures for Arts and Sciences and Beautification funds; providing for repeal of conflicting ordinances, severability, and establishing an effective date. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: At the September 21, 2021 Council Meeting: 1) Read Ordinance No. 2021-22 by title only for the first time 2) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2021-22 by title only (if approved above) At the October 5, 2021 Council Meeting: 3) Read Ordinance No. 2021-22 by title only for the final time 4) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2021-22 by title only (if approved above) 5) Adopt Ordinance No. 2021-22] THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH TWENTY TO AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, CLARIFYING THE DUTIES OF THE BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ART COMMISSION AND CLARIFYING THAT THE PROCUREMENT CODE MANUAL PROCEDURES APPLY TO EXPENDITURES FOR ARTS AND SCIENCES AND BEAUTIFICATION FUNDS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, SEVERABILITY AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL STERLING SOLOMON, CITY ATTORNEY ALWAYS AN HONOR TO PRESENT TO YOU. AS ALWAYS, EVEN OUR CITY CLERK GETS AHEAD OF HERSELF. SHE'S SO GOOD AT WHAT SHE DOES THAT SHE DOESN'T KNOW SHE'S ALREADY DONE IT. I, ON THE OTHER HAND, KIND OF CATCH THINGS ON THE BACK END AND TRY TO TO BRING THINGS TO THE COUNCIL FOR CLARIFICATION. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS. ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO IS SIMPLY SOME HOUSEKEEPING, HOUSEKEEPING OR SOME CLEANUP. MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, A SHOUT OUT TO ANYA WINDELL, SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY IN MY OFFICE, WHO, WHILE WORKING WITH EVE STAFF, IDENTIFIED AN INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ART COMMISSIONER BPC ORDINANCE AND THE PROCUREMENT CODE MANUAL. AND TO RECTIFY THIS INCONSISTENCY, ANYA HAS DRAFTED ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO AND WE HAVE IT ON FOR A FIRST READ TONIGHT. IT'S A SLIGHT AMENDMENT THAT BASICALLY BRINGS THOSE TWO CODES TOGETHER THE CITY CODE ON B AND THE PROCUREMENT CODE MANUAL. IT WILL HELP ENSURE THAT SMALL DOLLAR AMOUNT PROJECTS CAN BE PROCESSED EFFICIENTLY, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME GIVING COUNCIL GREATER FLEXIBILITY TO ASK THE BPR COMMISSION FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, INCLUDING SMALL ART PROJECTS THAT ARE BELOW 50 THOUSAND DOLLARS, SUCH AS LANDSCAPING PROJECTS AND THOSE SMALL ART PROJECTS. SO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT PRACTICES. WE JUST NEEDED TO MAKE THAT HOUSEKEEPING AND CLEANUP, AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS THE FIRST READ TONIGHT, THE SECOND READ AND APPROVAL ON OCTOBER 5TH. OF COURSE, SHOUT OUT MAJOR SHOUT OUT TO ELIZA KREUTZMANN, JAN WELDON, DAVID MCINTIRE AND HEIDI HANSEN FROM EVE. THEY DO GREAT WORK AND THE COMMISSION DOES A GREAT WORK BECAUSE OUR STAFF FACILITATES THAT AND THEY'VE BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH THIS ON THIS LITTLE CLEAN UP MATTER AS WELL. THEY'RE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CITY ATTORNEY, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU, SO THE ATTORNEY. GO FOR IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I MOVED THAT WE READ ORDINANCE TWENTY TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FIRST TIME. I WILL PROVIDE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. I. ANY POST? THAT MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. WE JUST THAT, MY GOODNESS. I'M YEAH, I'M STEPPING ON YOUR TOES HERE. PLEASE, CITY CLERK. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, CLARIFYING THE DUTIES OF THE BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ART COMMISSION AND CLARIFYING THAT THE PROCUREMENT CODE MANUAL PROCEDURES APPLY TO EXPENDITURES OF ARTS AND SCIENCES AND BEAUTIFICATION FUNDS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, SEVERABILITY AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MS. SALTZBURG. NOW WE'RE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 12B, WHICH IS THE CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION [B. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2021-43 and Ordinance No. 2021-21: A resolution of the Flagstaff City Council declaring as a public record that certain document filed with the City Clerk and entitled "Nuisance Noise Code Amendments;" and an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Flagstaff, amending the Flagstaff City Code, Title 6, Police Regulations, Chapter 6-08, Noise Control, by adopting by reference that certain document entitled "Nuisance Noise Code Amendments;" providing for penalties, repeal of conflicting ordinances, severability, and establishing an effective date STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: At the September 21, 2021 Council Meeting: 1) Read Resolution No. 2021-43 by title only 2) City Clerk Reads Resolution No. 2021-43 by title only (if approved above) 3) Read Ordinance No. 2021-21 by title only for the first time 4) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2021-21 by title only (if approved above) At the October 2, 2021 Council Meeting: 5) Adopt Resolution No. 2021-43 6) Read Ordinance No. 2021-21 by title only for the final time 7) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2021-21 by title only (if approved above) 8) Adopt Ordinance No. 2021-21] OF RESOLUTION NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE POINT FORTY THREE AND ORDINANCE NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH TWENTY ONE. A RESOLUTION OF FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL DECLARING AS A PUBLIC RECORD THAT CERTAIN DOCUMENT FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK AND ENTITLED NUISANCE NOISE CODE AMENDMENT AND AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, AMENDING THE FLAGSTAFF CITY CODE TITLE SIX POLICE REGULATIONS CHAPTER SIX TO EIGHT NOISE CONTROL BY [01:00:04] ADOPTING A REFERENCE THAT CERTAIN DOCUMENTS ENTITLED NUISANCE NOISE CODE AMENDMENTS PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES, REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, SEVERABILITY AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO READ RESOLUTION NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE DASH 43 BY TITLE ONLY DEPUTY CHIEF. DO NEW MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS A RESULT OF YOUR REQUEST OR DIRECTION ON THE JUNE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING TO DEVELOP A NUISANCE NOISE ORDINANCE WORKING WITH MARIANNE SULLIVAN FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE. LOOKED AT SAMPLE NOISE ORDINANCES FROM QUITE A FEW MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE SAW AN UNDERLYING THEME, AND THEN WE WORKED TOGETHER TO DEVELOP OUR OWN ORDINANCE TO ALONG THE SAME TYPE GUIDELINES THAT OTHER CITIES ARE USING ALREADY. ON TWO SIDES OF IT, WE HAVE THE BUSINESS, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL NOISE ORDINANCE. THEN THERE'S ALSO A SUBSECTION COVERING VEHICLES ON THE BUSINESS, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL SIDE. WE SET NOISE LIMITATIONS IN EACH ZONE, SEPARATELY INCREASING IN THE AMOUNT OF DECIBELS THAT ARE AUTHORIZED DEPENDING FROM RESIDENTIAL BEING THE LOWEST TO INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST ALLOWABLE NOISE LEVELS. THERE WERE ALSO DIFFERENT LIMITATIONS DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF THE DAY OR THE NIGHT IN THESE AREAS IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. IT GOES FROM 45 DECIBELS AT NIGHT TO 55 DECIBELS DURING THE DAY IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONE AS IT GOES FROM 55 TO 65 AND IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS FROM 60 TO 70. THE NOTABLY MEASURED USING METERS AND STANDARDS FROM THE AMERICAN NATIONAL STANDARDS FOR NOISE MEASUREMENT BASED ON THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND NATIONAL BUREAU OF STANDARDS, THESE ARE THOSE TYPE ONE METERS I TALKED ABOUT DURING A PREVIOUS CONVERSATION WITH YOU ON JUNE 1ST, AND THEY WILL BE MEASURED ON AN APPROVED SOUND LEVEL METER THAT SATISFIES THOSE REQUIREMENTS. AND IF WE HAVE A COMPLAINT IN A AREA THAT BORDERS TWO DIFFERENT ZONES, SAY RESIDENTIAL AND A COMMERCIAL ZONE, THE STRICTER REGULATIONS WILL TAKE EFFECT IN THOSE AREAS. AND THEN THE VEHICLE NOISE ORDINANCE IT SPECIFICALLY CARS AND VEHICLES NOISE, AND IT WILL BE BASED ON VEHICLE AND WEIGHT AND SPEED GOING DOWN THE ROAD. AND IT'LL BE BASED ON A DISTANCE OF 50 FEET FROM THE CENTER OF THE ROADWAY LANE. IF THE VEHICLE IS A GW ABOVE 6000 POUNDS DRIVING DOWN THE ROADWAY THIRTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR OR LESS, THEY'LL BE RESTRICTED TO 88 DECIBELS. IF THEY'RE GOING TO EXCESSIVE THIRTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR, THEY'LL BE RESTRICTED TO NINETY TWO DECIBELS. ANY OTHER VEHICLE BELOW THAT WILL BE RESTRICTED TO 82 DECIBELS AT THIRTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR OR LESS, UP TO 86 DECIBELS GOING IN EXCESS OF THIRTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR. THE OPTIONS THE COUNCIL HAS ON THIS IS YOU CAN ADJUST THE TIME RESTRICTIONS WITHIN THE ORDINANCE IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A EARLIER TIME FOR THE EVENING TO TAKE EFFECT OR A LATER TIME. THE LEVELS AS PROPOSED IN THE ORDINANCE, YOU CAN ADJUST THOSE AS YOU SEE FIT DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH AND THEN THE SPEED LIMIT DEMARCATIONS FOR THE VEHICLES CAN BE ADJUSTED UP OR DOWN AS WELL. THE PROPOSED PENALTIES AND THE PROCESS FOR THIS SAME PENALTIES AS CURRENTLY IN THE NUISANCE PARTY ORDINANCE. THERE WILL BE CIVIL FINES. ONLY FIRST OFFENSE WILL BE TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS, A SECOND OFFENSE WITHIN 120 DAYS AS A $500 FINE AND A THIRD OR SUBSEQUENT OFFENSE AFTER THAT WOULD BE A $1000 FINE WITH IT IN THAT HUNDRED DAY PERIOD. AGAIN, THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS. YOU CAN CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF FINES OR THE TIME PERIOD THAT THE OFFENSES OCCUR FOR THE SECOND OR THIRD OFFENSES, AND THEN THE CIVIL HEARING PROCEDURE IN THE CITY COURT THAT CHALLENGED ANY CITATIONS WILL BE SPELLED OUT IN THE ORDINANCE AS WELL. WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT COVER DOESN'T CHANGE ANY OF THE ORDINANCES CURRENTLY IN PLACE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. WE'VE ALREADY GOT A PRETTY ROBUST SPECIAL EVENTS PROCESS THAT IS WORKING VERY WELL FOR THE CITY AND IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE NUISANCE PARTY ORDINANCE THAT IS ALSO IN EFFECT. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, DEPUTY CHIEF. WE DO HAVE A FEW COMMENT CARDS I'D LIKE TO TAKE FIRST MS. CASS, WAS THIS THE CHAIR YOU'RE WANTING TO SPEAK TO RATHER THAN I WILL START WITH YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ROBYN CASS. I WANTED TO JUST COME DOWN TODAY AND SPEAK BRIEFLY ON THIS TOPIC. I'VE BEEN A FLAGSTAFF RESIDENT RESIDENT FOR THIRTY NINE AND A HALF YEARS AND I LIVED JUST A COUPLE OF BLOCKS FROM HERE. UM, I HAVE TO SAY THAT OVER THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS, I'VE NOTICED A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN VEHICULAR NOISE OR NUISANCE NOISE. AND THIS ISN'T THE NORMAL NOISE THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT LIVING IN AN URBAN AREA OF [01:05:03] OF FLAGSTAFF. AND IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY AFFECTED MY LIFESTYLE AND WELL, AS WELL AS LIFESTYLES OF SOME OF MY FRIENDS. AND IN IN IN A PERSONAL WAY, IN A PERSONAL WAY AND IN. UM, NOT VERY OFTEN, BUT HAS AFFECTED MY WELL-BEING. AND SO IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I'M GOING TO BE BUILDING A HOUSE OUTSIDE OF TOWN STARTING IN THE SPRING. BUT I JUST WANTED TO COME DOWN AND COMMENT ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND SUPPORT. FURTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, AND I'M HOPEFUL FOR A RESOLUTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MS. KESSE. UH, I HAVE MICHAEL COLLIER. MARION COUNCIL, THANK YOU. I AM MICHAEL COLLIER, AND I LIVE ON WEST CHERRY AVENUE. THE BANNER THAT OPENS UP YOUR WEB PAGE IS READ BY ADAM SHIMONI STATES THAT THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL. IT SOUNDS GOOD. IF THAT'S TRUE, WHY DO WE TOLERATE UNNECESSARILY LOUD VEHICLES AND FLAGSTAFF STREETS? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SEMIS OR SANTA FE LOCOMOTIVES. I'M NOT ADDRESSING CONSTRUCTION AND INDUSTRIAL NOISE. THERE ARE PLENTY OF TIMES WHEN AMBULANCES OR FIRE ENGINES RUN WITH THEIR SIRENS ON. GOD BLESS THEM. NONE OF THESE ARE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER OUR COMMUNITY'S TOLERANCE FOR UNNECESSARILY LOUD CAR AND PICKUPS. LAST WINTER, I WORKED DOWN SOUTH FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. I WAS AWAKENED AT THREE A.M. BY SCREAMING MOTORCYCLES A QUARTER MILE OR MORE AWAY. THE STREETS I REALIZED HAD BECOME RACE WAYS. IT WASN'T LIKE THAT WHEN I WENT TO SCHOOL THERE IN THE 80S. IF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF TOLERATES THE SAME PROBLEM, WILL OUR FUTURE SOUND ANY BETTER HERE? I'VE TRIED AND FAILED TO UNDERSTAND WHY SOME PEOPLE CHOOSE TO DRIVE OBNOXIOUSLY LOUD VEHICLES. THEY SEEM TO HAVE JUST ONE MESSAGE. LOOK AT ME. LOOK AT ME. INDIVIDUALS DO HAVE A RIGHT TO BE HEARD, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERATE OF EACH OTHER, AND WHEN THIS BASIC CONSIDERATION IS NO LONGER THE NORM, IT'S TIME TO REWRITE THE LAW. I'VE TALKED TO COUNSEL ABOUT THIS ISSUE BEFORE. THANK YOU FOR ASKING THE POLICE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. THEIR SUGGESTED THRESHOLDS FOR ILLEGAL NOISE ARE NOT OUT OF LINE WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES, THOUGH I NOTICE THAT BOISE DOES RESTRICT NOISE TO 92 DECIBELS MEASURED AT 20 FEET, NOT 50 FEET. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE RELIES ON DECIBEL METERING RATHER THAN JUDGING AUDIBLE DISTANCE OR JUST USING COMMON SENSE. PERHAPS PRECISE SOUND MEASUREMENT IS REQUIRED IN A COURTROOM FOR PROSECUTION. I JUST HOPE THAT THE UNWILLINGNESS IN THE MODEST EXPENSE DON'T END UP DISCOURAGING ENFORCEMENT. AS YOU CONSIDER THIS ISSUE TONIGHT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW. HOW MUCH UNNECESSARY NOISE ARE WE WILLING TO TOLERATE BEFORE GIVING UP ON ANOTHER ASPECT OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND FLAGSTAFF? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR COLLIER. I HAVE ROSE HOOK. SORRY, IF I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME. THANKS, EVERYBODY. IT'S REALLY NICE TO FINALLY SEE YOU ALL AGAIN IN PERSON, I THINK. AND THANKS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OFFICER HIGGINS, FOR THE ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER. I. YEAH, I LIVE UP HERE IN TOWNSITE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, I WOULD SAY I HAVE NEVER, EVER HEARD THE KIND OF NOISE WE ARE HEARING. THIS TO CALL IT A NUISANCE IS A MILD EUPHEMISM. IT IS AN ABOMINATION TO OUR LIVES. I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD FROM MANY RESIDENTS. I KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER TOWN, BUT WE KNOW IT BECAUSE WE LIVE RIGHT BY THORPE PARK. AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU IN THE NEXT TWO HOURS, IF WE WERE UP THERE, WE COULD SET OUR WATCHES BY THE FOUR OR FIVE CARS WHO ARE THE MAIN OFFENDERS. I SEE THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY. THERE'S A LITTLE RED CAR, THERE'S A LITTLE WHITE CAR, THERE'S A LITTLE SILVER CAR. I MEAN, I KNOW THEM ALL AND SO DO ALL MY NEIGHBORS. IT'S OUT OF HAND. I HOPE, I HOPE THAT THIS AMENDMENT TO THIS ORDINANCE WILL DO SOMETHING TO HELP. BUT WHAT IT ALL IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT IS ENFORCEMENT. AND IF I CAN TAKE TWO SECONDS TO TELL A LITTLE ANECDOTE, SO I WROTE, RIDE MY BIKE, I'M GOING ACROSS ROUTE 66, I RODE MY BIKE THROUGH A WALK SIGN TO MY BAD FORTUNE. [01:10:01] THERE WAS A POLICEMAN RIGHT BEHIND ME WHO PULLED ME OVER AND SAID, WHY DID YOU RUN THAT RED LIGHT? AND I SAID, WOW, I HAD NO IDEA THE WALK LIGHT WAS ON BY THE. SO LONG STORY SHORT, $200 LATER A SESSION IN TRAFFIC SCHOOL, I LEARNED MY LESSON A HARD WAY. I GUESS IT IS ILLEGAL TO RIDE MY BIKE ON A WALK LIKE I NEVER, EVER DO THAT NOW. SO THE POINT IS WE NEED A DETERRENT. IF YOU WERE UP THERE RIGHT NOW, YOU WOULD GET THESE PEOPLE GOING 50 MILES AN HOUR IN A 25 MILE ZONE ON A ROAD NARROW ROAD THAT'S USED BY BICYCLISTS, WALKERS, KIDS, YOU NAME IT. AND IN MY HEART OF HEARTS, THE HORRIBLE THING I THINK ABOUT IS SOMEBODY GETTING HURT AND HURT BAD. WE DO NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN EVER, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DETERRENT OF A FINE LIKE HE SPELLED OUT JUST FOR SPEEDING AND THEN SAY, HEY, BY THE WAY, DID YOU KNOW ILLEGAL MODIFIED MUFFLERS ARE ILLEGAL IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA? DO A LITTLE EDUCATION AND AND THEN IF WE HAVE THIS ORDINANCE BEHIND US, WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO GET TO THESE PEOPLE AND MAKE EXAMPLES AND JUST SAY, HEY, YOU CANNOT GET AWAY WITH THIS. THIS IS AFFECTING ALL OF US IN A REALLY BAD WAY FOR MANY REASONS, AND IT'S MUCH MORE THAN A NUISANCE. IT'S A SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE TO OK. I GUESS THAT'S IT. I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, RIGHT? BUT YEAH, VICE MAYOR, YOU DO. HI, BECKY. HI, ROSE. I'M WONDERING WHETHER YOU AND DR. COLLIER ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE LEVELS AS OUTLINED IN THIS. WELL, IF THEY WORK, YEAH, I I DON'T HAVE. I MEAN, HE'S GOT A DECIBEL METER. HE GOES THROUGH HIM WITH, I DON'T. AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT 88 OR 92 IS GOING TO SOUND LIKE. IT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE MEAN THAT THEY WOULD GET TO HAVE A BIGGER DECIBEL LEVEL IF THEY'RE SPEEDING, YOU'RE GOING FASTER BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GO FASTER, BECAUSE THEN THEY CAN HEAR IT BETTER. I TOO DON'T KNOW WHAT'S DRIVING THIS, SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. I'M SORRY. I WISH. WHAT I REALLY THINK IS WHATEVER WE HAVE, IT'S GOT TO. THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME TEETH IN IT. THERE'S GOT TO BE A POLICEMAN STATIONED UP THERE ON THORPE AT THIS HOUR OF THE DAY. CATCH HIM, DO SOMETHING AND THEY'LL STOP BECAUSE IT'S EXPENSIVE. YOU KNOW, IT'S EXPENSIVE TO GET A TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLAR TICKET OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. KNOW, I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ARE YOU? WE'RE TAG TEAM IN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S LEGAL, BUT ANYWAY, I CAN'T ANSWER IT DIRECTLY BECAUSE I'M NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH HOW ALL THE DECIBEL STUFF WOULD WORK. COUNCIL MEMBER DAGGETT. I, I I HAVEN'T BEEN ADDRESSED IN YOUR QUESTION. I THOUGHT I WOULD COME UP AND SAY I WENT TO THE VERY MODEST TROUBLE OF BUYING A SOUND METER, NOT JUST A CELL PHONE, BUT A SOUND METER, AND HAVE SPENT SOME TIME RECORDING DECIBEL LEVELS. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I MEASURED A HIGH OF ONE HUNDRED FOUR POINT SEVEN. INTERESTINGLY, THAT WAS ABOUT A 70 YEAR OLD COUPLE IN A CONVERTIBLE FORCE. IT ISN'T JUST YOUR TYPICAL BACKWARD HAT HIGH SCHOOLER, COMMONLY MOTORCYCLES MEASURED, I'M GUESSING, 50 FEET AWAY IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN SLIGHTLY LESS. WE'RE IN THE HIGH NINETIES. I WONDER WHY MOTORCYCLES ARE PUT IN WITH A SIX THOUSAND POUND CATEGORIES BECAUSE I'VE HEARD QUIET MOTORCYCLES TEND TO BE BMW S, BUT I'VE HEARD THEM. I HAD A PERSON ZOOM UP IN DOWNTOWN PARK, HIS BIKE, AND I WALKED UP TO HIM AND I SAID. WHY DID YOU HURT MY EARS BECAUSE IT HURT? AND HE SAID. OH, IT'S FOR SAFETY. AND I SAID, WELL, THEN WHY ARE YOUR TAILPIPES POINTING BACKWARDS? I DON'T BUY IT. YEAH, THERE'S THERE'S TIMES WHEN I RECORDED OVER 92 DECIBELS, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER. I'M LOOKING HARD AT THOSE LEVELS. I NOTICED THAT THE TOWN OF GILBERT AND TEMPE ARE EXACTLY THE SAME NUMBERS, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE NEED TO GO ALONG JUST WITH THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE OTHER TOWNS HAVE ADOPTED THEM. THERE IS A PRECEDENT. YEAH, THAT HELPS. BUT I WOULD USE COMMON SENSE IF IF YOU'RE OUT ON SANTA FE OR SAN FRANCISCO, COMING OUT OF THE UNIVERSITY OR BY HIGH SCHOOL AND YOU'RE HEARING OBJECTIONABLE NOISES AT 80 OR 85 DECIBELS, I WOULD COUNSEL YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION TO WHAT YOU FINALLY DECIDE ON. THANK YOU. [01:15:01] ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR DISCUSSION IN GENERAL. A COUNCILWOMAN MCCARTHY START WITH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO IF WE DON'T SETTLE THIS TONIGHT, YOU MAY HAVE TO DELAY YOUR RETIREMENT. BUT BUT ALL KIDDING ASIDE, I HAVE A SERIOUS QUESTION. HOW ABOUT ENFORCEMENT OF THIS? I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL SQUAD THAT LOOKS FOR NOISE OR AS EACH POLICE OFFICER ARE GOING TO HAVE THE SOUND METER. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT BE VERY UNPRACTICAL TO HAVE TO HAVE A SOUND METER WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS A KID, THEY DIDN'T USE SOUND METERS, BUT I HAD A 57 CHEVY THAT WAS KIND OF HOPPED UP. NOW I GO FOR GAS MILEAGE, BACK THEN I WAS GOING, I WAS JUST I WAS A KID, OK? AND I GOT TICKETS FOR A LOUD MUFFLERS AND SIMILAR TO WHAT THE WOMAN MENTIONED. SO WHAT DID I DO AFTER I GOT THREE TICKETS FOR LOUD MUFFLERS? I WENT UP TO THE CHEVY DEALER AND BOUGHT A FACTORY MUFFLER AND PUT THAT ON, AND THAT QUIETED DOWN MY CAR AND I DID THAT. SO MY QUESTION IS. I'M INTERESTED IN THE PRACTICALITY OF HOW WE ENFORCE THIS ORDINANCE OR WHATEVER. DO WE HAVE TO HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER ON IT WITH A METER OR CAN WE JUST SAY IT'S SORT OF LIKE ONE OF THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES SAID ONCE THAT HE COULD NOT DEFINE PORNOGRAPHY, BUT WHEN HE SAW IT, HE KNEW WHAT IT WAS. AND I THINK IN IN A IN A CASE LIKE THIS, IT'S LIKE IF A IF A CAR IS COMPLETELY OUT OF THE BALLPARK ON NOISE, EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A NUMBER, THERE CAN BE SOME ENFORCEMENT. SO WOULD YOU PLEASE COMMENT TO THAT? THANK YOU. IDEALLY, WHAT I ENVISION IS HAVING ALL MY TRAFFIC UNIT TRAINED AND EQUIPPED WITH THE METERS, SO WHILE THEY'RE WORKING A SPEED ZONE, THEY CAN ALSO PASSIVELY WORK FOR NOISE VIOLATIONS BY HAVING A DECIMAL METER ON. I ALSO ENVISION HAVING MEMBERS OF THE PATROL SQUADS TRAINED IN THIS AS WELL BECAUSE IT CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE BAR NOISE COMPLAINTS THAT WE GET DOWNTOWN AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THE PROBLEM WITH NOT HAVING AN UPPER DECIBEL LIMIT IS IT BECOMES A COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE LAW AND BECOMES OVERLY BROAD. IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE AND IT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO WIN ON APPEAL IF SOMEBODY TRIES TO APPEAL THE DECISION OF THAT. THIS WAY, WE'VE GOT THE DEAD LIMIT. YOU CAN'T EXCEED THIS. WE'VE GOT THE PEOPLE TRAINED AND CERTIFIED IN USE OF THE METERS. WE HAVE A METER THAT MEETS THIS CERTIFICATION LEVEL THAT WE NEED. SO WHEN WE DO ISSUE A CITATION, WE WILL WIN THROUGH PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A CIVIL VIOLATION TO BE VERY HARD TO OVERCOME, WHEREAS IF WE HAVE A SUBJECTIVE RULING, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO PROVE IN COURT. JUST TO ADD TO THAT, IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO PROSECUTE ONE PERSON'S VIEW OF OF SOMETHING THAT IS OFFENSIVE OR A NUISANCE MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE SOMEBODY ELSE'S. AND SO THAT IS WHY HAVING AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD MAKES THINGS EASIER FOR THE OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO CITE, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO NOT ONLY THE VEHICLE NOISE, BUT WE ARE RECEIVING LOTS OF COMPLAINTS WITH REGARD TO SOME BUSINESS NOISE. AND SO BEING ABLE TO GO TO THE BUSINESS AND SAY THIS IS THE LEVEL HERE IT IS, YOU'RE EXCEEDING IT AND GO FROM THERE IS A LOT EASIER FOR ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES ON THE PART OF THE OFFICERS, AS WELL AS IN COURT FOR THE PROSECUTORS OR FOR THE OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE IF THERE ARE CIVIL HEARINGS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO MR. COLLIER'S COMMENTS THAT SOME OF THESE CARS HURT HIS EARS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ANYTHING OVER 85 DB A WILL CAUSE HEARING DAMAGE, PERMANENT HEARING DAMAGE TO YOUR EARS, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S ON A REPEATED BASIS. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. I BELIEVE IT WAS MY FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS THAT BROUGHT THIS TO COUNCIL. AND I DO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. AND AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE'VE STARTED THE PROCESS. UM, I HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS ON THE POLICY SIDE OF THIS. AND ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF IT, JUST FOR BACKGROUND, FOR PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IT. I'M A MECHANICAL ENGINEER. I HAVE A DEGREE IN MECHANICAL ENGINEERING FROM THE U OF A. GO WILDCATS AND AND I ALSO DID MY MASTER'S THESIS. [01:20:08] GO SUN DEVILS ON NOISE ISSUES. SO I HAVE QUITE A BIT OF BACKGROUND NOISE ISSUES. AND ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THIS, I HAVE A LOT OF OF TECHNICAL COMMENTS THAT I'VE STARTED. I HAVEN'T FINISHED THAT PROCESS. FOR INSTANCE, THE DEFINITION OF DECIBELS. IT'S INCORRECT. IT'S CLOSE, BUT IT'S INCORRECT, SO I'VE WRITTEN UP SOME SUGGESTED WORDING THAT WILL CORRECT THAT. UM. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO. LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. WHEN WE SAID THAT WE WANTED STAFF TO BRING THIS BACK TO US, WHAT I ANTICIPATED IS THAT WE'D HAVE A WORK SESSION ON THIS. INSTEAD OF LIKE, WELL, HERE'S HERE'S A DRAFT LAW. APPROVE IT OR NOT. SO I GUESS WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS, ONE IS WE COULD DO A FIRST READ ON THIS TONIGHT AND THEN WORK OUT THE DETAILS BEFORE THE SECOND READ, OR WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A WORK SESSION ON IT. I GUESS MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO HAVE A WORK SESSION ON IT BECAUSE LET'S BE HONEST, THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT AND I THINK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR LEGAL STAFF, WOULD AGREE TO GET YOUR ARMS AROUND THIS ISSUE IN A WAY THAT WILL HOLD UP IN COURT, WHICH IS PRACTICAL FOR THE POLICE, AND THAT WILL IMPROVE THE NOISE SCAPE THE SOUNDSCAPE OF FLAGSTAFF. THAT'S A COMPLICATED AND VERY CHALLENGING ISSUE. THIS IS NOT AN EASY ISSUE. AND I THINK BACK TO WHEN WE DID SOME NOISE ORDINANCE CHANGES FOR WHAT WE ALLOWED AT FESTIVALS AND THINGS LIKE AT THORPE PARK THAT TOOK A LONG TIME AND WE GOT NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON BETWEEN EVENT PRODUCERS AND NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE. AND BUT WE CAME TO A SUCCESSFUL END ON THAT. AND I THINK WE ENDED UP WITH SOMETHING THAT THE PROMOTERS CAN LIVE WITH. AND IMPROVED LIFE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A WORK SESSION ON THIS, AND I WILL PROBABLY SPEND A LOT OF MY OWN PERSONAL TIME ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE TECHNICAL ISSUES AND TRYING TO EVALUATE. JUST THE PRACTICAL SIDE OF IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE A HUNDRED FEET. I THINK IT'S A THERE'S A 50 FEET FROM THE CENTER OF THE LANE. WELL, YOU KNOW, ON MY STREET, THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY IMPRACTICAL. THE SETBACK IN MY FRONT YARD IS ONLY 25 FEET, JUST AS ONE LITTLE EXAMPLE. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE BRING THIS BACK. I'LL BE HONEST, I'M NOT PREPARED TO GIVE. SUBSTANTIVE. QUESTIONS AND DETAILED RESPONSES TONIGHT, MAYBE I SHOULD BE, BUT THE LAST WEEK HAS BEEN VERY BUSY FOR ME AND I HAVEN'T REALLY HAD TIME TO STUDY THIS IN THE DETAIL THAT I THINK I OWE MYSELF AND THAT I OWE THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY. SO I'LL THROW IT OUT TO COUNCIL. I WOULD LIKE TO DELAY THIS DISCUSSION. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, BUT IT IS NOT A CRITICAL ISSUE LIKE WE NEED TO GET IT DONE IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. SO MY PROPOSAL IS THAT WE HAVE A WORK SESSION ON THIS, AND IF THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO COUNCIL, THEN I GUESS WE COULD AT LEAST I THINK STERLING, I THINK I WOULD SAY TABLE IT FOR TWO WEEKS. IS THAT THE PROPER WAY TO PHRASE IT? OR A MOTION TO POSTPONE? YEAH. AND I DON'T WANT TO POSTPONE THIS FOR SIX MONTHS. A FEW WEEKS OR SOMETHING. AND FOR CLARIFICATION, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY AND COUNCIL THIS. THIS ACTUALLY STARTED AS A CITIZENS' PETITION THAT EVOLVED INTO A LARGER DISCUSSION AT WHICH POINT COUNCIL ACTUALLY ASKED FOR AN ORDINANCE TO BE BROUGHT BACK DIRECTLY. I THINK THAT'S THE REASON THERE WASN'T A WORK SESSION. OF COURSE, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TONIGHT AT A FIRST READ, YOU CAN TABLE IT, YOU CAN POSTPONE IT FOR LONGER. I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND YOU DO THAT FOR A LONG PERIOD. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A WORK SESSION AND REQUEST FURTHER DISCUSSION, YOU CAN DO THAT AS WELL. YOU CAN DO IT FIRST. READ AND HAVE MORE DISCUSSION AT THE SECOND READ. ALL THOSE OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU FROM A PROCEDURAL PERSPECTIVE. SO I'LL THROW IT BACK TO THE CITY MANAGER AND TO THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. BUT I'LL BE HONEST, I AM NOT READY TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS, AND I REALLY DO CARE ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND I WANT IT DONE RIGHT. I DON'T. I DON'T WANT TO DO IT HALF-BAKED, SO TO SPEAK, AND THEN FOUND OUT THAT WE [01:25:03] DIDN'T REALLY MAKE ANY PROGRESS OR THAT WE MADE IT MORE COMPLICATED. YOU KNOW, I'LL POINT OUT THAT I DID READ THIS OVER YESTERDAY. I DID READ IT AND STUDY IT TO SOME EXTENT, AND IT DOES REMOVE SOME OF THE EXISTING RULES. AND IN SOME CASES, I THINK THOSE EXISTING RULES MIGHT BE MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT WE'RE COMING UP WITH NOW. SO ANYWAY, A LOT OF QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO STEP BACK AND STUDY THIS. I'LL SHUT UP FOR A LITTLE WHILE. SO, MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, SPEAKING OF QUESTIONS, THE ONE YOU DID ASK WAS THE USE OF THE WORD TABLE. YES, UNDER OUR RULES. THAT MEANS THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS THE NEXT WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK. SO I WOULDN'T USE THE WORD TABLE BECAUSE THEN THAT TURNS THAT WORK SESSION INTO A SPECIAL MEETING AND WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO THERE. SO IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR SORRY, THE MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. SO IF I DID THAT, THAT WOULD BE TWO WEEKS. CORRECT, SO. OR ANOTHER DATE, IF YOU WANTED IT, RIGHT? SO IN FOUR WEEKS, WHATEVER. SO AM I ALONE ON THIS OR DOES THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SOME SYMPATHY FOR POOR OLD JIM SALAS, THE VICE MAYOR, AND THEN TO COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS? I'M FINE WITH POSTPONING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE TIME TO TO THINK ABOUT IT AND JUST AND TALK ABOUT IT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, SO I'M WONDERING WHERE THAT COMES IN TO WHERE WE ARE IN THE DISCUSSION. YOU'RE WELCOME TO ASK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO STAFF, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SHOPS IN TOWN THAT ARE SELLING THESE MUFFLERS TO AUTOMOBILE OWNERS. IS THERE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT? DO WE TALK TO THEM OR OR ARE THEY NOT EVEN INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSION? THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSION. THE INTENT OF THIS IS NOT TO LIMIT SOMEBODY'S ABILITY TO BUY ANYTHING. I CAN GO ONLINE AND BUY HEADLIGHTS, PUT THEM ON MY CAR THAT ARE ILLEGAL IN THE STATE. IT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S JOB TO POINT THAT OUT TO THE PERSON AND HAVE THEM COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. I PERSONALLY DON'T CARE IF THEY BOUGHT THEM, THAT'S ON THEM. I JUST NEED TO CORRECT THE ISSUE IF IT'S IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS. OH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, I I I AM IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING THIS TILL LATER DATE. BUT I DO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO WHICH CAN BE ANSWERED NOW IF STUFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THEM OR THE FUTURE DISCUSSION. FIRST, IS THERE ANY, ANY JURISPRUDENCE? CASES ARE IN TERMS OF EXPERIENCE FROM OTHER CITIES AND TOWNS WHO HAVE HAD SIMILAR NICENESS AND ORDINANCE AND WHAT WERE THE CHALLENGES AND SUCCESSES IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SUCH AN ORDINANCE. SECOND, I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE THE. THE BUDGETARY IMPLICATION, I WOULD PREFER A MORE BUDGETARY IMPACT ANALYSIS, WE COULD SEE THAT THERE'S TRAINING COSTS OF SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE AND RECERTIFICATION CLASS EVERY TWENTY FOUR MONTHS OF THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE FOR POLICE OFFICERS, PLUS THE COST OF THE DECIBEL METERS AND WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY IN THE BUDGET IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. SO LOOKING FORWARD, WHAT? WHAT IS THE LONG TERM BUDGETARY IMPLICATION IN THIS AND ALSO ON THE WORKLOAD OF OUR CURRENT LAW ENFORCEMENT WORKFORCE? MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 30 PERCENT VACANCY? AND JUST THIS EXPERIENCING A RIDE ALONG LAST MONTH, YOU KNOW, I WAS I WAS AHEAD. IT WAS A HUMBLING EXPERIENCE TO SEE OUR POLICE OFFICERS RESPOND TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE POTENTIAL ALL DAY AND EVEN ASSAULT. SO WHEN YOU'RE FACED WITH CALLS LIKE THAT, THE NUISANCE CALL WILL BE OBVIOUSLY. YOU KNOW. IN THE BOTTOM OF THE POLLS, I DO, I DO. I BELIEVE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. I MYSELF HAD A FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR WHO WOULD LOVE TO RAMP UP THAT WHATEVER IT IS THAT MAKES VIOLENCE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND I'LL BE AWAKENED, AND MANY TIMES I [01:30:04] TRY TO GET OUT AND TAKE A PHOTO OR VIDEO OF THE VEHICLE, BUT IT'S GONE. SO I DO. I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS DECISION NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT HAS TO BE IN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE AND ALSO MINDFUL OF OUR EXISTING RESOURCES AND THE BUDGETARY IMPLICATION OF THIS COST EVENTUALLY. THANK YOU. SO WITH REGARD TO YOUR QUESTION ON JURISPRUDENCE, I DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING I CAN DO A MORE EXTENSIVE SEARCH WITH THE OTHER EXISTING ORDINANCES WITHIN THE STATE OF ARIZONA TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC THAT WOULD GIVE US ANY MORE GUIDANCE. AND IN REGARDS TO WORKLOAD. OFFICERS ARE GOING TO THESE CALLS ALREADY. THIS WOULD GIVE US THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THEM SUCCESSFULLY TO HOPEFULLY GET PEOPLE INTO COMPLIANCE. WITHOUT IT, THEN WE'RE BACK TO JUST DOING SUBJECTIVE MEASURES, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO VOLUNTARILY COMPLY WITH WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO, IT REALLY LEAVES US WITHOUT THE TOOLS TO PROPERLY ADDRESS THE ISSUE. AS FAR AS BUDGETARY. LET'S SAY I HAVE 20 OFFICERS EQUIPPED TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. SPREAD THEM OUT WITHOUT WITHOUT THE WITHOUT THE PATROL SQUADS SO THEY CAN DRESS IT. TWENTY FOUR HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. I WOULD ESTIMATE $20000 TO OUTFIT 20 OFFICERS, GET THEM CERTIFIED AND GET THEM A METER, SO ROUGHLY $1000 A HEAD TO DO THIS. AND THAT'S JUST A BALLPARK FIGURE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN. WHERE ARE YOU? THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I WANT TO I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE ELSE ON COUNCIL WHO'S HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK ALREADY. YOU'RE SHARING MY CONCERNS AND YOUR COMMENTS ECHO WHAT I'M THINKING AS WELL. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY I'M FINE WITH PUSHING THIS BACK SO WE CAN HAVE A MORE THOUGHTFUL, DELIBERATIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. BUT AS WE PREPARE FOR THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS. COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT THE SOUND RECORDING EQUIPMENT IS, WHERE IT'S PLACED ON THE VEHICLE, HOW YOU COMPENSATE FOR USING IT INSIDE AS OPPOSED TO NOT BEING IN A VEHICLE? AND MAYBE YOU CAN JUST CLEAR SOME CONFUSION FOR ME, BECAUSE WHAT I'M PICTURING IN MY MIND IS YOUR TYPICAL OFFICER ON PATROL LOOKING FOR SPEEDERS. THEY'RE SITTING IN THEIR DRIVER'S. AH, BUT WINDOWS WOULD GET IN THE WAY OF SOUND RECORDING LEVELS AND JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD JUST WALK ME THROUGH. AN INSTANCE WHERE. THAT'S AN INFRACTION OCCURS AND A RECORDING DEVICE IS USED TO CAPTURE THAT AND RECORD AND MEASURE IT AND HOW THAT WORKS IN DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. UH, BASICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO ADDRESSING VEHICLE NOISE, I WOULD. FOCUS MAINLY ON OUR TRAFFIC UNIT. THESE ARE OUR MOTORCYCLE OFFICERS, SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN AN OPEN AIR VEHICLE. THE METER ITSELF IS A HANDHELD UNIT AND IT'S NOT REALLY A RECORDING UNIT. IT'S A METER. IT JUST IT'S A MEASURING THE PRESSURE WAVE THAT IT'S RECEIVING THAT'S SENSITIVE TO THE HUMAN EAR AND COMES UP WITH A READING. AND IF IT'S A VIOLATION, THE OFFICER HAS REASONABLE SUSPICION TO STOP THAT CAR AND ADDRESS IT. SO HOW DOES THAT WORK IF THE POLICE OFFICER IS INSIDE THE CABIN OF A. VEHICLE ROLL THE WINDOW DOWN. OK. AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE THE SOUND PERFORMANCE. I MEAN, I NOTICE THAT IT'S QUIETER WHEN I'M INSIDE MY VEHICLE THAN WHEN I'M OUTSIDE OF IT. AS LONG AS YOU'RE REMOVING THE OBSTRUCTION THAT SHOULD HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT ON THE AMOUNT OF SOUND REACHING THE OFFICER AND A MAJORITY OF OFFICERS PATROL WITH THE WINDOWS DOWN AS A NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS. WONDERFUL. GREAT. AND THIS IS JUST A IT'S A HANDHELD UNIT. IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE UTILITY BELT NOW OR DO YOU HAVE TO KNOW IT'D BE JUST BE SOMETHING A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT LIKE A RADAR GUN, SOMETHING THAT THEY USE WHEN THEY'RE IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO USE IT? AN OFFICER CAN SET UP A MOTORCYCLE 50 FEET OFF THE TRAVEL PORTION OF THE ROADWAY, 50 FEET OFF THE CENTERLINE AND BE ABLE TO WORK SPEED AND BE ABLE TO GET READINGS FOR VEHICLES FOR SOUND AND HAVE A VIABLE VIOLATION THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED AT THAT TIME. SO THEY HAVE TO ACTIVELY BE LOOKING FOR INFRACTIONS IN ORDER FOR THIS PROCESS TO WORK, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO GET BEING TO THE DEVICE ISN'T GOING TO TURN ITSELF [01:35:06] ON OR NO PROVIDED AN ALERT. OK, THANK YOU. I'M JUST TRYING TO I'M JUST TRYING TO WORK THROUGH EXACTLY THE THE THE PHYSICALITY OF HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL UNDERSTANDING OF THE THE CLUNKY NATURE OF HOW ENFORCEMENT'S GOING TO WORK ON THIS AND JUST TRYING TO CREATE A PICTURE IN MY HEAD. SO I APPRECIATE YOU WALKING ME THROUGH THAT. ALSO, I THINK TO THIS WOULD BE MORE COMPLAINT DRIVEN. SO WHEN WE DO GET COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS THAN OFFICERS CAN GO TO THAT AREA, IT'S SIMILAR TO THEIR SPEEDING IN A PARTICULAR AREA THAN WE KIND OF SATURATE THAT GO TO THAT SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARD TO THE VEHICLE NOISE, WITH REGARD TO BUSINESS NOISE THAT IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE MORE PROBABLY COMPLAINT DRIVEN AND OR DOWNTOWN WALKING BEAT PATROL THINGS LIKE THAT. GOTCHA. WELL, ON THAT NOTE, AND SINCE I STILL HAVE THE MIC, I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION AND THIS IS RELATED TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE'S TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC WHITE CAR, BLUE CAR OR RED CAR SILVER CAR. ARE YOU GUYS AWARE OF THOSE? UM, PERPETRATORS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD. AND ARE YOU ABLE TO GO CHECK THAT OUT? THAT AREA HAS BEEN A COMPLAINT ZONE IN THE PAST, AND IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED BY OUR TRAFFIC UNIT. OUR OFFICERS ARE AWARE OF THE AREA AND THEY'RE OUT THERE AS TIME PERMITS. BUT KEEP IN MIND, WE ARE A CALL DRIVEN AGENCY. WE HAD TO PRIORITIZE THE CALLS BY LIFE SAFETY AND A NOISE COMPLAINT IS GOING TO HOLD LONGER THAN SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO A SAFETY ISSUE INVOLVED. SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET? I DO THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC AND WARRANTS A WORK SESSION, SO I WOULD VOTE FOR THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI? OK, I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUMP IN A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND YOUR WORK ON THIS. THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, AND I DO SUPPORT US MOVING FORWARD WITH A WORK SESSION ON THIS TOPIC BECAUSE I, TOO, HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE COSTS OF DOING ALL THIS AND IF WE HAVE THE BANDWIDTH AND WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE SACRIFICING BY ADDING THIS TO THE LIST OF THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO REGULATE? BUT THAT'S A BIGGER DISCUSSION. BUT QUICK QUESTION WOULD WE BE ABLE TO ADJUST THE LIMITS IF WE WERE TO PASS SOMETHING A YEAR LATER IF WE FOUND OUT IT WASN'T MEETING OUR NEEDS? YES, YOU COULD ALWAYS COME BACK AND AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE ANY SORT OF CHANGES IF THAT IS OCCURRING. OK. AND I WOULD LIKE TO FURTHER EXPLORE IN OUR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS, THE BANDWIDTH CONCERN THAT WE HAVE AT FPD TO ADD THIS TO OUR LIST OF THINGS TO DO BECAUSE AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, IT SOUNDS VERY LABOR INTENSIVE AND I AM SOMEWHAT CONCERNED. I THINK FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, IT WILL BE A LOT EASIER TO ADDRESS. IT'S NOT LIKE WHAT TO CATCH THEM AT THAT PEAK OF THE REVVING OF THEIR ENGINE, YOU KNOW? BUT IF YOU COULD WALK ME THROUGH WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO CATCH SOMEONE LIKE, SOMEONE WHO IS A VIOLATION LIKE, LET'S SAY YOU GET A CALL. THERE WAS A NOISE COMPLAINT ON MY BLOCK. SOMEONE DROVE BY REALLY FAST AND MADE A, YOU KNOW, REAL LOUD NOISE. HOW DO YOU RESPOND? WELL, BASICALLY, THE WAY THE TRAFFIC UNIT HAS BEEN RESPONDING TO ISSUES OF THIS NATURE IS THEY HAVE A TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT ZONE THAT'S ASSIGNED TO ONE OF THE MOTOR OFFICERS. AND HAVING BEEN A MOTOR OFFICER FOR ABOUT 19 YEARS OFF AND ON HOW I WOULD DO IT IF I WAS ENFORCING BOTH SPEED COMPLAINTS AND NOISE COMPLAINTS, I WOULD SET UP THE MOTORCYCLE IN AN AREA THAT IS 50 FEET OFF THE CENTER LINE. SO I KNOW OF WITHIN THE STATUTE FOR ENFORCEMENT OF NOISE VIOLATION. I WOULD SET MY RADAR UP ON THE BIKE WATCHING THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC, AND IF A VEHICLE IS TRAVELING FASTER, IT'S GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT MORE NOISE AND I WOULD BE WATCHING BOTH THE RADAR, WHICH CAN ALERT AT A SPECIFIC SPEED AND WATCHING THE NEEDLE ON THE NOISE METER TO SEE IF I HAVE A VIOLATION OF THE NOISE STATUTE AS WELL. AND NOW I'VE GOT REASONABLE SUSPICION THAT IT STOPPED THE CAR AND ADDRESS IT. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CAUSE MORE WORK BECAUSE I CAN DO BOTH THINGS AT THE SAME TIME. I DON'T SEE THAT REALLY AS AN ISSUE. MY GUYS CAN MULTITASK PRETTY WELL, ESPECIALLY THE MOTOR OFFICERS, IF THEY'RE COORDINATED. OK, THAT'S THAT SOUNDS GOOD. I GUESS MY CONCERN WOULD BE LIKE MORE TO THE BANDWIDTH. GO AHEAD. JUST TO KIND OF ADDRESS. SO, YOU KNOW, IN A SITUATION, IF SOMEBODY CALLS AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, I SAW THIS VIOLATION BY THIS VEHICLE. THE MORE INFORMATION THEY CAN PROVIDE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE BETTER OFF THEY'LL BE IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY INVESTIGATE AND ADDRESS THAT. A WHITE CAR IS NOT GOING TO HELP, SO A LICENSE PLATE NUMBER OR THE WHITE CAR [01:40:03] TRAVELS THIS TIME OF DAY EVERY DAY IN THIS AREA, THEN WE MAY BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THAT AREA TO GET THAT INFORMATION. SO BEING ABLE TO GET FROM THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ALLOW LAW ENFORCEMENT TO FOLLOW UP WITH AS MUCH SPECIFIC INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE IN, YOU KNOW, CITIZENS THEMSELVES MIGHT BE ABLE TO ALSO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE VIOLATING. MR. COLLIER INDICATED HE HAS HIS OWN SOUND METER, SO SOMEBODY, THAT TYPE OF EVIDENCE WOULD STILL BE ADMISSIBLE IN COURT. IF THAT PERSON CAN SAY, I CAN TESTIFY TO THE FACT THAT I HAD THE METER OUT AND THIS IS WHAT IT WAS. THERE MIGHT BE SOME MORE ISSUES WITH REGARD TO REGULATION OF THAT METER. SO IF WE DO HAVE THEM WITH THE PD AND THE OFFICERS, THEY HAVE THE TRAINING, THE QUALITY KIND OF CONTROL MEASURES IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT THEY'VE TESTED THE METER THAT IT MEETS CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE HELPFUL EVIDENCE IN COURT AS WELL. OK, THANK YOU FOR THAT. JUST A COUPLE MORE POINTS REALLY QUICK. WHEN IT COMES BACK, IT'D BE GREAT IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF CIVIL OFFENSE AND THE DIFFERENT COSTS ASSOCIATED IN THE TIMELINE. I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF DISCREPANCIES THERE, AND I'M VERY CURIOUS TO EXPLORE THAT, SPECIFICALLY ON, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY LIKE THE LOWER END OF THE COSTS. SO THIS IS WHAT'S PROPOSED IN THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS NOW. LIKE I SAID, WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE PARTY NUISANCE ORDINANCE AND PUT THAT IN THERE. BUT THE OPTIONS HERE WOULD BE FOR YOU TO CHANGE THESE AMOUNTS TO ANY AMOUNT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THEM TO OR THE NUMBER OF DAYS FOR FIRST SECOND OFFENSE TO ANY NUMBER OF DAYS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHOOSE THEM. YOU KNOW, WE JUST MADE THAT AS A SUGGESTION IN A PROPOSAL BECAUSE WE WERE ASKED TO BRING A DRAFT FORWARD TO YOU. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THIS. AND SO THE OPTIONS THERE FOR COUNSELOR TO CHOOSE WHATEVER MONETARY LIMITS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITHIN THE ORDINANCE AND ANY DAY. AND SO WHEN IT COMES BACK, I'D LIKE TO SEE A FEW OPTIONS IF POSSIBLE. WELL, THERE'S THESE OPTIONS THERE WOULD BE TO MAKE IT HIGHER OR LOWER THAN 250 TO MAKE THE DAYS EITHER, YOU KNOW, SOME 20 OR. I GUESS AND I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH AN EMAIL IF THAT'S PREFERRED WITH MY SPECIFIC REQUEST, BUT I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE MORE OF A RELAXED APPROACH RATHER THAN A FIRST OFFENSE OF 250. I THINK THAT CAN BE REALLY DETRIMENTAL TO SOME. CITY MANAGER? THANK YOU. I WON'T WEIGH IN SUBSTANTIVELY, BUT I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON PROCESS THAT I MIGHT SUGGEST TO THE LAST COMMENT FIRST. I DON'T THINK IT'S REACHING OUT TOO FAR TO SAY THAT IF WE GET TOO LAX ON THE FINES, THAT ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT. AS IT IS NOW, THIS WILL TAKE TIME TO SEE RESULTS. THERE WON'T BE AN IMMEDIATE OUTCOME FROM THIS. IT WILL TAKE TIME AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HARDWARE THAT IS AFFIXED TO PEOPLE'S VEHICLES. SO. OH, YOU KNOW. AND WE ARE ALSO TOUCHING UPON THE SUBJECT OF RESOURCE ALLOCATION, STAFFING AND THE ABILITY TO TRAIN AND GET USEFUL ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE ON THE STREETS. EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WILL TAKE TIME. BUT IF WE START WITH TOO LAX OF A PENALTY SCHEDULE. UM, THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE DETERRENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SO I THINK THAT'S A DISCUSSION WE SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL ON. ANOTHER COMMENT ON THAT IS I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO STRIVE TO BE TO KEEP THIS SIMPLE AND KEEP IT SOMEWHAT CONSISTENT WITH OTHER VIOLATIONS. I DON'T THINK IT SERVES US VERY WELL TO REWRITE THE PENALTY BOOK EVERY TIME WE COME UP WITH A NEW POLICY, BUT RATHER LOOK WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING. LOOK WHAT WE ARE DOING IN OTHER INSTANCES TO HAVE SOME DEGREE OF CONSISTENCY WITH THAT. AS TO WHAT LIES AHEAD, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHETHER THIS SHOULD BE A WORK SESSION OR A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM, AN ACTION ITEM, WHICH IT IS. WE DID RESPOND. STAFF DID RESPOND TO A REQUEST TO BRING FORTH AN ORDINANCE. I THINK IDEALLY WE WOULD ALWAYS START THESE POLICY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE WORK SESSION. THAT STATED, THE DISCUSSION HAS STARTED AND YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING IN FRONT OF YOU TO WORK WITH. AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO URGENCY FOR COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS, SO I THINK THE IDEA OF POSTPONING, AS YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL ADVISED WITH AN ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU MIGHT FURTHER THE DISCUSSION RATHER THAN TAKING A STEP BACK AND HAVING A WORK SESSION WITH NO ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU. SO THERE IS NO URGENCY. YOU CAN KEEP POSTPONING AND KEEP THIS DIALOG GOING AND BECOME MORE AND MORE INFORMED ON THE PROCESS. I VERY MUCH AGREE. I THINK WE ALL AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS MADE THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT AND IT SHOULD BE [01:45:01] APPROACHED VERY CAREFULLY AND METHODICALLY. I DO THINK STAFF IS COMING TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT IS MODELED AFTER WHAT THEY HAVE SEEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. AND I THINK THERE'S WISDOM IN NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL EVERY TIME WE HAVE A NEW POLICY DISCUSSION. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT. I WOULD SUGGEST WE KEEP POSTPONING IT. KEEP THE ORDINANCE ON THE TABLE, RECOGNIZING THAT THERE'S NO URGENCY TO ACT ON IT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY? THANK YOU, I'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. ON THE ISSUE OF FINES, I REMEMBER I GOT A PARKING TICKET A FEW YEARS AGO AND I THINK IT WAS LIKE $70. SO IT'S $250? IS THAT PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH LIKE A SPEEDING VIOLATION OR WHATEVER? OR IT SEEMS HIGH TO ME FOR A FIRST OFFENSE, BUT I JUST WOULD BE INTERESTED IN YOUR COMMENTS. I BELIEVE THAT OTHER ORDINANCES THAT WE LOOKED AT, DIDN'T HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT, THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE TO LOOK AT OUR OWN ORDINANCES HERE WITHIN THE CITY TO KIND OF MIRROR THEM. LIKE WE SAID, THOUGH, THE COUNCIL HAS THE OPTION TO CHOOSE WHATEVER AMOUNTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITHIN THE ORDINANCE FOR ANY POTENTIAL FINES. THE WAY THAT WE HAVE STRUCTURED IT WITH THE PARTY NUISANCE ORDINANCES THAT'S ALL INCLUSIVE OF ANY ADDITIONAL SURCHARGES OR FEES THAT THE STATE KIND OF PUTS ON SO THAT IT'S NOT 250 PLUS THE EXTRA PERCENTAGE THAT THAT INCLUDES THOSE PERCENTAGES TO. I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE LOWEST FINES THAT ARE REALLY OUT THERE ARE ABOUT SAY, WELL, NOT PARKING, BUT IN TERMS OF MOVING VIOLATIONS, YOU KNOW, ARE AROUND THE HUNDRED RANGE, BUT THEN HAVE SOME OF THOSE FEES AND PERCENTAGES TACKED ON TO THEM AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL HERE IS NOT TO HARASS DRIVERS. THE GOAL HERE IS TO QUIET DOWN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I, DOES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, HAVE THE OPTION TO GIVE WARNINGS FOR MAYBE THE FIRST SIX MONTHS AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, TAKING PEOPLE TO THE MAT AND WANTING 250 DOLLARS? I PRESUME THAT'S POSSIBLE. ABSOLUTELY, LIKE WE DO ON THE WINTER PARKING ORDINANCE EVERY YEAR WHEN THAT TAKES EFFECT, WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT WINDOW WHERE WE ISSUED NOTHING BUT WARNINGS TO REEDUCATE THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS A VIOLATION. WE CAN DO THE SAME THING WHEN WE ROLL OUT THIS ORDINANCE. WHATEVER TIME FRAME THAT YOU OR THE CHIEF FEELS IS APPROPRIATE TO GET PEOPLE EDUCATED TO THE NEW ORDINANCE SO THEY COULD TAKE PROACTIVE MEASURES THEMSELVES TO FIX THEIR PROBLEMS ON THEIR OWN. OK. AS FAR AS COST, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION OR MAYBE IT CAN JUST BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY, BUT WE MIGHT BY THREE METERS OR WE MIGHT BY 30 METERS. IT ISN'T LIKE EVERY POLICEMAN ON THE FORCE HAS TO HAVE ONE OF THESE, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHEN THIS DOES COME BACK. COULD WE GET STAFF TO GIVE US JUST A REAL QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT THE ALLOWABLE GOALS ARE THAT WE DECIDED A FEW YEARS AGO ON PARK NOISE? I MEAN, WAS THAT 85 DB AT 50 FEET OR, YOU KNOW, FOR BANDS? THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION THAT IF YOU GUYS COULD DIG THAT OUT, THAT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL. SO I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION IS. DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS, OR IS THIS DISCUSSION KIND OF LEADING TO A CONSENSUS THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH? IF YOU NEED A MOTION, I CAN MAKE A MOTION. YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE COMMENTS FROM VICE MAYOR, AS WELL AS MYSELF, AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE A MOTION IF WE WANT TO POSTPONE IT TO A CERTAIN DATE. OK, I SEE STACEY SHAKING YOUR HEAD. YES. WE HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR. IT'D JUST BE A MOTION TO POSTPONE TO A DATE. YEAH, I'LL YIELD. AND THEN WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE, YOU CAN LET ME KNOW. VICE MAYOR? THANK YOU, MAYOR. IS IT POSSIBLE AND WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO MAKE AN ALLOWANCE AND MAYBE IT'S A JUST A WARNING FOR A VEHICLE THAT'S IN NEED OF REPAIR VERSUS A VEHICLE WHERE THE OWNER HAS PURPOSELY OUTFITTED IT TO BE LOUD? OR DOES THAT JUST CLOUD THE ISSUE AND MAKE IT MORE SUBJECTIVE? TYPICALLY, IN SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE A VEHICLE THAT'S GOT DEFECTIVE EXHAUST, THEY WOULD GET A REPAIR ORDER WHERE THEY'RE GIVEN NOTICE THAT YOU'RE IN VIOLATION. YOU HAVE A SET PERIOD OF TIME TO GET THE VEHICLE REPAIRED AND THEN IF WE HAVE CONTACT WITH THE VEHICLE AGAIN, BUT THEY WOULD BE CITED FOR NOT COMPLYING WITH THE REPAIR ORDER. TYPICALLY, THAT WOULD BE HOW THAT WOULD BE HANDLED, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A, I WOULDN'T SAY SOMEBODY UNDER A NOISE ORDINANCE FOR THAT BECAUSE HE WILL SIMPLY GO TO COURT AND SAY, WELL, MY MUFFLER BLEW OUT WHEN I WAS TWO BLOCKS AWAY. [01:50:01] I WENT TO THE MUFFLER SHOP, GOT IT FIXED AND THERE WAS NO LONGER A VIOLATION, WHICH IS WHY WE HAD THE REPAIR ORDER PROCESS. OK, THANK YOU. FOLLOW UP TO THAT SPECIFIC POINT. YEAH, GO AHEAD. YEAH. BACK WITH MY FIFTY SEVEN CHEVY. REMEMBER THAT I TOOK THE FACTORY MUFFLERS OFF AND PUT GLASS FACTS ON, AND WHEN I GOT TICKETS, THEY GAVE ME A TICKET THAT WAS A REPAIR ORDER AS OPPOSED TO ANYTHING ELSE. JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, I WOULD PREFER TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, NOT AS A WORK SESSION. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE, I'M UP FOR THAT. BUT I THINK GOING TO WORK SESSION WOULD JUST BE GOING BACKWARDS HERE AND WE NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. THE ONE SUGGESTION THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY WITH THIS WAS THAT WE RIGHT NOW HAVE WITH THE MOTOR VEHICLES DEPENDENT ON MILES PER HOUR, AND I WOULD JUST MAKE THE SUGGESTION THAT WE JUST MAKE IT BLANKET TO THE 88 DECIBELS AS OPPOSED TO ALLOWING VEHICLES OVER 35 TO GO TO THE NINETY TWO. BECAUSE MOST OF THESE SITUATIONS ARE HAPPENING IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT THEY'RE THEY SHOULDN'T BE DRIVING MORE THAN TWENTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO THAT WAS JUST ONE SUGGESTION. BUT AS THIS WILL LIKELY BE POSTPONED, GAUGING COUNCIL, I WOULD SUGGEST WITH OUR VERY BUSY SCHEDULE THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT IT MAY BE PUSHED TO THE OCTOBER 19TH COUNCIL MEETING. MR. MAYOR, THE MOTION THAT CAN ALSO BE MADE TO POSTPONE TO A TIME WHEN THE CITY MANAGER FEELS IT'S APPROPRIATE TO BRING IT BACK, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A DEFINITE DATE. OK, THANK YOU. WELL, THEN I'D BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO I HEREBY MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO A DATE FAIRLY SOON, BUT AT THE CONVENIENCE OF THE CITY MANAGER. I'LL SECOND THAT. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THAT WORDING, STERLING? WUNDERBAR. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET. CITY MANAGER, DID YOU WANT TO CHIME IN HERE? JUST FOR A LITTLE DIRECTION? WHAT WOULD COUNCIL BE COMFORTABLE WITH IN TERMS OF SEEING THIS COME BACK? ARE WE? THE MAYOR HAD MENTIONED OCTOBER 19TH, THAT'S SLIGHTLY LESS THAN A MONTH OUT. IS THAT THE TIME FRAME YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT? SO JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. UNLESS WE HAVE OTHER PRESSING ISSUES THAT FOR SOME REASON ARE IS GOING TO MAKE THAT DAY REALLY FILLED UP, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE A REASONABLE TIME IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS OF RATHER HEAVY SCHEDULES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES. AS IT IS 4:55 RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK. WAS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY? NO. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS I JUST WANT TO THANK THE LEGAL STAFF, THE POLICE STAFF, FOR GETTING THIS DISCUSSION GOING AND THE PUBLIC, FOR COMING OUT AND FOR MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS KIND OF TAKING MY CONCERNS SERIOUSLY. SO THANK YOU, EVERYONE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, LET US BE BACK HERE. LET'S DO 19 MINUTES. SO AT 5:15. ALL RIGHT, WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 13, LONE TREE OVERPASS, PROJECT UPDATE. [A. Lone Tree Overpass Project Update STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Present a design update to City Council for the Lone Tree Overpass Project and facilitate discussion. ] CITY MANAGER? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A POSTPONEMENT OF THIS ITEM AND GOING TO OUR LEGAL COUNSEL'S ADVICE EARLIER MAY BE DOING THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S CONVENIENCE. I THINK YOU CAN EXPECT IT TO COME BACK TO YOU FAIRLY SOON. THANK YOU. DO WE NEED A MOTION, STERLING, IN THIS BEHALF? OR SHALL WE JUST POSTPONE? ALL RIGHT, LET'S POSTPONE THIS ITEM. WITH THAT, WE'RE NOW DOWN TO DISCUSSION ITEM 13B, THAT'S THE PUBLIC RELEASE OF DRAFT [B. Public Release of Draft Active Transportation Master Plan STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Information and discussion only; no Council action required] ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN. STAFF, TAKE IT AWAY. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. WELL, MY NAME IS MARTIN INCE, I'M THE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, AND I AM HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF PRESENTATION REGARDING THE PUBLIC RELEASE OF THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN. AND I JUST GOT A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO GO THROUGH. THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TO FAMILIARIZE YOU WITH THE [01:55:05] CONTENTS OF THE PLAN AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE IDEA OF WHAT THE PUBLIC PROCESS WILL BE LEADING UP TO ADOPTION AS WE MOVE FORWARD OVER THE YEARS. THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF CITY PLANS THAT INDICATE, IN A GENERAL SENSE, SUPPORT FOR WALKING AND BIKING, AND THAT STARTS WITH FLAGSTAFF REGIONAL PLAN. ALL OF THOSE PLANS ARE FAIRLY GENERAL IN NATURE AND LACK SOME DETAIL REGARDING ACCOMMODATION FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS, AND THE ATMP IS REALLY INTENDED TO FILL IN THOSE DETAILS AND TO PROVIDE THAT GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION. THIS SLIDE GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE CONTENTS OF THE PLAN, BEGINNING WITH POLICY CONTEXT, GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND APPROACH CURRENT CONDITIONS FOR WALKING AND BIKING. THE GOALS AND POLICIES ARE HIGH LEVEL AND ASPIRATIONAL. STRATEGIES AND ACTIONS ARE MORE DOWN TO EARTH AND ACTION ORIENTED. THE OUTCOMES AND TARGETS ARE WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE OUTCOME OR THE RESULTS TO BE AS WE IMPLEMENT THE PLAN. AND THEN IMPLEMENTATION IS, OF COURSE, HOW WE GET THERE. THE LAST TWO ITEMS ON THIS LIST PLANNING CONSIDERATIONS AND DESIGN GUIDANCE AND PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE ARE SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENTS. THEY WILL BE ROLLED OUT OR INTRODUCED KIND OF AS PART B, PART TWO AND PART THREE OF THE DOCUMENT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. BUT THE ATMP DOES MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING OUR APPROACH TO TRANSPORTATION PLANNING. THIS REFLECTS WHAT IS CALLED AND THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AS THE BIG SHIFT. AND IT INVOLVES A COUPLE OF GUIDING PRINCIPLES TO BE MORE TRANSFORMATIONAL THAN INCREMENTAL TO EMPHASIZE PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES AND DON'T OVERBUILD PER CARS. TAKE A WELL-ROUNDED APPROACH TO TRANSPORTATION. CONSIDER MULTIPLE COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES AND VALUES, AND SOME OF THOSE VALUES MIGHT INCLUDE SUSTAINABILITY, THE ENVIRONMENT, PUBLIC HEALTH AND COMMUNITY CHARACTER. AND THEN FINALLY, WE PURSUE A WIDE RANGE OF SOLUTIONS AND PROVIDE MULTIPLE OPTIONS FOR MOBILITY. SO WHEN PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THEIR TRAVEL CHOICES, NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE MULTIPLE OPTIONS, BUT ALL OF THOSE ARE GOOD AND FEASIBLE AND LEGITIMATE OPTIONS. THE DRAFT PLAN INCLUDES A NUMBER OF GOALS AND POLICIES. THESE PROVIDE HIGH LEVEL ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND SUPPORT FOR WALKING AND BIKING. THEY ARE, THEY BUILD ON THE GOALS AND POLICIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE REGIONAL PLAN, BUT PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAIL AND SPECIFICITY COMPARED TO THE REGIONAL PLAN. STRATEGIES AND ACTIONS ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO PROMOTE WALKING AND BIKING, THE LIST IS FAIRLY LONG IN THE DRAFT DOCUMENT, AND IT'S ORGANIZED AROUND SIX TOPICS INFRASTRUCTURE, MAINTENANCE, SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGEMENT SAFETY. TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE PLANNING AND FINALLY, EVALUATION. ON THE TOPIC OF PET AND BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE PLAN WILL INCLUDE A LIST OF SPECIFIC WALKING AND BIKING PROJECTS. THEY ARE PRIORITIZED. AND COVERED SIDEWALKS, BIKEWAYS PUTS TRAILS, ENHANCE STREET CROSSINGS AND BRIDGES, BRIDGES AND TUNNELS FOR PEDS AND BIKES. THE LIST CREATES A PROGRAM FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS THAT USES THE REVENUES FROM THE TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX AND FROM MOUNTAIN LIONS FIRST LAST MILE GRANT. THOSE TWO ARE THE CURRENTLY THE KNOWN SOURCES OF OF REVENUE FOR WALKING AND BIKING PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. THAT LIST ALSO CAN BE INCORPORATED DIRECTLY INTO THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM . SO WE CAN GO TRANSITION RATHER SEAMLESSLY FROM PLAN TO PROJECT TO PROGRAM, TO DESIGN, TO CONSTRUCTION AND ACTUALLY GET SOME THINGS BUILT WITH THE MONEY WE HAVE AVAILABLE. PLANNING AND DESIGN GUIDANCE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT WALKING AND BIKING EXIST WITHIN A LARGER CONTEXT AND ADDRESSING SOME OF THE THINGS WE DO EITHER AFFECT WALKING AND BIKING OR ARE AFFECTED BY WALKING AND BIKING. WE'VE LISTED THEM IN THE PLAN AT FOUR DIFFERENT LEVELS. IT INCLUDES OUR APPROACH TO TRANSPORTATION PLANNING GENERALLY, WHAT LAND USE AND URBAN FORM LOOK LIKE, THE DESIGN OF STREETS AND INTERSECTIONS. AND THEN FINALLY, THE DETAILS AND HOW WE BUILD AND WHAT OUR PEDESTRIAN OR BICYCLE FACILITIES LOOK LIKE TO MAKE SURE THEY FUNCTION WELL. [02:00:02] A LITTLE BIT ON THE PROCESS, THE SLIDE OUTLINES A GENERAL LIST OF THE STOPS. WE HAVE RELEASED THE DRAFT DOCUMENT TO THE PUBLIC. AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FORTHCOMING REGARDING DESIGN GUIDANCE AND SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE RECOMMENDATIONS. ALL OF THIS PROCESS WILL INCLUDE A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE REGIONAL PLAN, MAINLY THAT THAT ACCOMPLISHES INCLUDING MAPS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE ATMP IN THE REGIONAL PLAN AND AS WELL AS SOME OF THE TEXT. WE ARE GOING OUT FOR A 60 DAY PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD THAT WILL END SOMETIME IN MID-NOVEMBER. AND FOLLOWING THAT PERIOD, THERE WILL BE DETAILED REVIEWS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CITY'S PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE COMMITTEES, TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. AND THEN FINALLY, THERE'S FORMAL APPROVAL BY RESOLUTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PUBLIC REVIEW DURING THE 60 DAY PROCESS, OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT INCLUDE A COMMUNITY SURVEY. THAT SURVEY IS NOW AVAILABLE ONLINE AND LIVE. WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF OPEN HOUSES SCHEDULED, BUT YOU'LL SEE IN A IN A MOMENT A SCHEDULE FOR THAT. WE ARE PLANNING TO MAKE PRESENTATIONS TO A NUMBER OF COMMISSIONS AND STAKEHOLDER GROUPS TO MAKE THEM AWARE AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE IN THE PLAN . FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WE ARE REALLY RELYING ON A ON A MODEL THAT USES GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS TO HELP US GET THE WORD OUT, KIND OF LIKE A LIKE A TELEPHONE TREE MODEL. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS REGARDING WALKING AND BIKING IN THIS PLAN, REALLY DATING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2014. SO WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH WITH THE PUBLIC, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HEARD THEM, THAT WHAT WE HEARD IS REFLECTED IN THE PLAN AND THAT WE GOT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND DETAILS RIGHT. I MENTIONED THERE ARE A SERIES OF OPEN HOUSES, THESE ARE FIVE THAT WILL BE CONDUCTED OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. ALL OF THESE WILL BE ONLINE OR VIRTUAL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE OCTOBER 16TH OPEN HOUSE AT BUSHMASTER PARK. AND THIS IS. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THESE RUNNING DOWN THESE DATES, THE LIST IS INCLUDED ON THE ATMP WEBSITE, WHICH I'LL GIVE YOU IN JUST A MOMENT. I DID MENTION THAT THE COMMUNITY SURVEY IS LIVE. AGAIN, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THIS WEBSITE, AND THERE'S A LINK TO IT ON THE ATMP WEBSITE. COUNCIL CAN PLAY A ROLE IN THIS. THIS SLIDE OUTLINES SOME OF WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR YOU. FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'D LIKE YOUR HELP IN GETTING THE WORD OUT SO ANY OF YOUR CONTACTS OR GROUPS OR ACQUAINTANCES OR WHATEVER ONLINE AND OTHERWISE TO MAKE AWARE THAT THE BOTH OF THE PLAN IS OUT AND THAT THERE'S A SURVEY TO FILL OUT TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK, THAT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED. WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE A DETAILED WORK SESSION AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD. THIS GIVES COUNCIL KIND OF A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC SAID KIND OF REVIEW WHAT THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PRODUCED, AS WELL AS GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE PLAN AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS, WORK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DETAILS. THINK OF OF THAT, PROBABLY IN THE SOMEWHAT AFTER NOVEMBER. SO EITHER LATE, LATE DECEMBER, IF WE CAN FIND A WAY AROUND THE HOLIDAYS OR PROBABLY MORE LIKELY EARLY JANUARY FOR THAT WORK SESSION. AND THEN THE FINAL STEP IS APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL BY RESOLUTION, AND THAT WILL PROBABLY OCCUR, ACCORDING TO THE SCHEDULE, IN EARLY MARCH. SO I MENTIONED THAT WEBSITE. IT IS SIMPLY THE CITY'S WEBSITE, FOLLOWED BY FORWARD SLASH AND ATMP. AND THAT CONCLUDES THIS BRIEF OVERVIEW, BUT I'M AVAILABLE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL? I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO WANT TO TALK. YEAH, YEAH, UM. WOW. MARTIN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND WHAT A IMPORTANT DAY THAT TODAY IS. I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS DAY FOR A LONG TIME, AND I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL WE'RE HERE. SO THANK YOU TO YOUR WORK ON THIS. AND I KNOW WE'RE JUST BEGINNING, BUT I WANTED TO THANK RICK BARRETT AND JEFF BAUMAN AND THE TEAM THAT HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS, ALONG WITH MEMBERS FROM SUSTAINABILITY THAT ARE HELPING OUT WITH THE PUBLIC OUTREACH. AND TO COUNCIL AND LEADERSHIP, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND I'M JUST SO EXCITED THAT THIS IS MOVING FORWARD INTO THE PUBLIC 60 DAY REVIEW. MARTIN, JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO CREATE LIKE A ONE PAGE GRAPHIC THAT SPEAKS TO ALL THE DIFFERENT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND AVENUES OF ENGAGEMENT AND LINKS, QR CODES, YOU NAME [02:05:03] IT, A BUNCH OF BICYCLES ON IT, THAT'D BE REALLY HELPFUL, I THINK, FOR SOCIAL MEDIA AND FOR US TO PASS AROUND. AND THEN WHEN YOU DO REACH OUT TO THE COMMISSIONS, I WAS CURIOUS IF THE DISABILITY AWARENESS COMMISSION WAS ON YOUR LIST? COUNCIL MEMBER, THEY MOST DEFINITELY ARE. I TYPICALLY ATTEND THEIR MONTHLY MEETINGS, SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THEM. OK, GREAT. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. AND THEN LASTLY, YOU JUST WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE I THINK THE BIKEWAYS PORTION OF THE ATMP. YOU SAID THAT THAT WILL BE LIVE AS ALMOST LIKE A PHASE TWO IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS; CORRECT ? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OK, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK IN MY OWN HEAD HOW TO STAGGER AND RESPOND TO COMMENTS, BUT I'M ALMOST THINKING THAT, YEAH, OK, THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN? THANK YOU. MARTIN, THIS IS GREAT AND REALLY EXCITING, I DON'T REMEMBER YOU MENTIONING THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION, MAYBE YOU SAID THAT AND I MISSED IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE THEM IN THE PROCESS YOU MENTIONED. AND THEN I JUST I WOULD LIKE TO SIT HERE IN TENSION FOR A FEW MINUTES AND DISCUSS THIS THROUGH THE LENS OF JOHN WESLEY POWELL BOULEVARD. WE HAVE PROP 419 MONEY THAT HAS TO BE SPENT. IN CERTAIN WAYS, WE HAVE A LOT OF DISCRETION AS A DELIBERATIVE BODY ON HOW WE ON HOW WE SUPPORT THAT. OR HOW WE GET IN THE WAY OF IT. IF JOHN WESLEY POWELL IS GOING TO BE EXTENDED AND OR BUILT OUT OR NOT, HOW IS SOME OF THAT MONEY GOING TO BE SAVED TO INVEST IN THESE OTHER CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE OBJECTIVES? AND WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE PUBLIC'S VOICE IN HELPING TO PRIORITIZE A RE-IMAGINING OF THAT ROAD AND ITS ROLE IN THE COMMUNITY? THOSE ARE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, MARTIN. JUST TO RIFF OFF OF JUST TO THINK OUT A LOT ABOUT. RICK, I HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS FOR YOU AS WELL, I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS, TOO. MAYOR, GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'M RICK BARRETT, CITY ENGINEER. UM, SO I'LL TRY TO REPHRASE THE QUESTION, I THINK IT WAS, YOU DON'T WANT TO BUILD JOHN WESLEY POWELL AND REPURPOSE THAT FUNDING. OR DID I GET THAT WRONG? THAT'S NOT. WELL, WHAT I WANT IS IRRELEVANT. THIS BODY OF SEVEN PEOPLE UP HERE IS GOING TO COME UP WITH A COMPROMISED SOLUTION TO A LOT OF THESE ISSUES. I JUST WANT TO PLAY WITH THE TENSION THAT'S THERE WITH PROP 419 AND HOW WE HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY AND THIS NEW ACT OF TRANSPORTATION, THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE COMING. AND SO, YEAH, CAN YOU JUST THINK OUT LOUD WITH ME FOR A LITTLE BIT AND LET'S WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE SOME OF THE INTRICACIES OF THAT. SO WHAT I KNOW ABOUT JOHN WESLEY POWELL IS THAT IT'S A ROADWAY THAT'S GOING TO CONNECT PINE CANYON TO BUTLER FOURTH INTERSECTION, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS THE ROAD. WELL, THE FOURTH LEG OF THAT INTERSECTION GOES OUT TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY. UM, JUST TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S GOING THROUGH GREEN FIELD, BUT THERE'S A STATE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S BEEN GROWING OUT THAT WAY. WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW THROUGH A PLANNING PROCESS. WE'RE ABOUT TO BE ABLE TO CONCLUDE THE ENGINEERING COMPONENT OF THAT WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, PUTTING PENCIL TO PAPER AND WE'RE FIGURING OUT PHYSICAL DESIGN ALIGNMENTS. WE'VE RECENTLY IDENTIFIED AN ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT THAT CAN AVOID SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT I JUST REFERENCED. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE PURSUING THAT AS AN ALTERNATE AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE HORIZONTAL GEOMETRY, THE VERTICAL GEOMETRY COST ESTIMATES. SO WHEN WE HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW THE DATA, IF YOU WILL, WE'RE THEN GOING TO HAND THE BALL OVER TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND SARA IS GOING TO, [INAUDIBLE], THAT IS, IS GOING TO PROCESS A REGIONAL PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A WHOLE ANOTHER PROCESS IN AND OF ITSELF. SO COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE MANY TOUCHES ON THIS AS WE GO INTO THE FUTURE. [02:10:05] THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, AS YOU'VE SEEN WITH THE ATMP. YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT WHAT I CAN ADD AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO WE HAVE A AGAIN, A BIG PROCESS THAT'S JUST AT ITS, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S AT ITS BEGINNING, WE'VE BEEN WORKING QUITE A WHILE ESTABLISHING THE DATA I JUST MENTIONED. BUT YEAH, WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT THAT WE CAN GET THIS REGIONAL PLAN AMENDMENT. AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE THAT REGIONAL PLAN IN PLACE, IT'S GOING TO ADD SPECIFICITY TO THIS ALIGNMENT THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE REGIONAL PLAN, ACTUALLY. SO THAT'S WHY WE CALL THIS A SPECIFIC PLAN. SO IT'S GOING TO ADD ALL THIS DETAIL. THE COST ESTIMATES, THE HORIZONTAL VERTICAL ALIGNMENT, AND THEN ULTIMATELY, I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT, PREFERRED ALTERNATE IS SELECTED, SO WE CAN NARROW DOWN THOSE OPTIONS. BUT THEN ONCE WE'RE THERE, SO NOW I'M GOING TO BACK INTO THE LANGUAGE FOR 419. THE LANGUAGE FOR 419 WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THAT ROADWAY WAS ONLY GOING TO BE FUNDED BY THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AT A LEVEL OF 40 PERCENT. SO WE ONLY HAVE 40 PERCENT OF THE FUNDING, AND THAT'S IN 2018 DOLLARS THAT WE NEED TO BUILD THIS ROAD AS WE STAND HERE TODAY. SO THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO BUILD A PARTNERSHIP WITH ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT AREA AND CREATE SOME FORM OF A DISTRICT THAT WOULD ALLOW THE 100 PERCENT FUNDING TO COME TO FRUITION AND ALLOW US TO ADVANCE THE WORK. AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHERE YOU WERE GOING, AND I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SPECULATE COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TRANSIT CORRIDORS, WE'VE GOT BIKE AND PET OPPORTUNITIES, NOT TO MENTION THE CONNECTIVITY NECESSARY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR IN THAT GREENFIELD SPACE. THAT I KNOW. YOU KNOW, AND THERE I WILL. I'M NEVER ONE TO HESITATE TO POINT OUT THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS IN THIS COMMUNITY ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH JOHN WESLEY POWELL BOULEVARD AT ALL. AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION. AND THIS IS JUST A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF MENTION THAT THERE'S A LOT OF VOICES OUT THERE READY TO PUT A SHOT ACROSS THE BOW. AND I THINK HAS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE ATMP, WE'RE NOT JUST THINKING THEORETICALLY ABOUT A LOT OF THIS STUFF. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME VERY REAL CONCRETE, PUN INTENDED, DECISIONS THAT COME INTO PLAY FOR VERY SPECIFIC REAL AREAS AROUND TOWN. COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI? JUST A REALLY QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THAT COMMENT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN. I THINK WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM YOUR COMMENTS AND HOPEFULLY I UNDERSTOOD AS WELL. BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT I HEARD IS LIKE, HOW DOES THE ATMP VALUES INTEGRATE INTO OUR PROJECTS? IT'S KIND OF WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM YOUR COMMENTS AND WE'RE WRESTLING WITH THAT. WHERE THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD IS CHALLENGING, IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION. WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPETING VALUES AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO PLEASE ALL AND THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'VE WITNESSED STAFF AND LEADERSHIP WRESTLE WITH THESE THINGS AND MOVE THE NEEDLE EVEN PROACTIVELY BEFORE ADOPTION OF THE ATMP. AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED CONVERSATION ON THIS TOPIC, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE CONTINUING TO WRESTLE WITH TOPICS, AS YOU MENTIONED, RICK, IN TERMS OF LIKE J.W. POWELL AND SO MANY OTHERS, LONE TREE. BUT YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN AND THE ASTUTE REPLY FROM OUR CITY ENGINEER, MR. BARRETT. I JUST WANT TO GIVE SPACE TO RECOGNIZE THAT J.W. POWELL IS ACTUALLY STIPULATED IN THE ORIGINAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN, BLUEPRINT 2040, WHICH WAS DEVELOPED BY MULTIPLE PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY, MAINLY THE COUNTY, THE CITY, ADOT, AND MANY PARTNERS. AND AS WE SPEAK, METRO PLAN IS IN THE PROCESS OF ALSO REVIEWING THAT TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHICH WILL BE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS. UM, ALSO KNOW NOT SO LONG AGO, COUNCIL APPROVED A LETTER REQUEST, WHICH IS [02:15:04] ALSO ECHOED BY METRO PLAN, WHERE WE REQUESTED THROUGH CONGRESSMAN O'HALLORAN AND OUR SENATORS, SINEMA AND KELLY TO INCLUDE J.W. POWELL FUNDING IN THE PROPOSED INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. WHICH IS ALREADY SIGNED INTO LAW. IS IT? IT'S STILL BEING PRETTY CLOSE TO SIGNING INTO LAW. SO, I THINK THE QUESTION AT HAND WOULD BE, HOW CAN WE SYNERGIZE THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN AND ALL OF IT IN SUCH A LEVEL THAT THE VISION AND PURPOSE AND GOALS OF THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN OF THE CITY CAN BE ELEVATED INTO ADVOCACY AT THE METRO PLAN LEVEL, AT THE REGIONAL, AT THE RURAL TRANSPORTATION ADVOCACY COUNCIL LEVEL AND ALSO THROUGH OUR PARTNERS ADOT, WHICH ALSO I WILL RECOGNIZE LATER BECAUSE OF THE EFFORTS THAT WE PROJECT AND PROMOTING BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. SO I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO KIND OF EXPAND THE DISCUSSION IN PUTTING FORTH THE ATMP GOALS INTO OUR REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND OUR ADVOCACY STATEWIDE, ADOT, AND FEDERAL DOLLARS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MR. INCE AND THE WHOLE TEAM, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS, THIS IS REALLY EXCITING. WITH THAT, WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 13C, D ISCUSSION OF LETTER REGARDING FOR RFP CANCELATION. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SARAH LANGLEY, PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIRECTOR. [C. Discussion of Letter Regarding 4FRI RFP Cancellation STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Discussion and possible direction.] ALSO ON THE LINE TONIGHT WE HAVE NEIL CHAPMAN, WILDLAND FOREST HEALTH SUPERVISOR. SO LAST TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 14TH, THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE ANNOUNCED THAT IT WOULD BE CANCELING, OR THAT THEY HAD DECIDED TO CANCEL, THE FOUR FOREST RESTORATION INITIATIVE PHASE TWO REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR RFP. THE FOREST SERVICE NOTED IN THEIR PRESS RELEASE THAT THE RFP REQUIREMENTS WERE NOT ALIGNED WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS, AND ALSO THAT THE PROJECT INVOLVES SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL AND INVESTMENT RISK THAT REMAINED UNRESOLVED AT THIS TIME. SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE REASONING THAT THEY GAVE. AFTER WE LEARNED ABOUT THAT CANCELATION, WE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER TO DRAFT A LETTER TO SEND TO THE FOREST SERVICE, HIGHLIGHTING THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO FOREST RESTORATION AND ALSO OUR DESIRE TO SEE SUCH PROJECTS ADVANCE AND CONTINUE. SO A DRAFT OF THAT LETTER IS INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET, AND WITH THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT THAT LETTER TO THE FOREST SERVICE. SO, AND NEILL'S ON THE LINE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS MYSELF. THANK YOU. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY EDITS TO THE LETTER PROVIDED THAT YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY? THANK YOU, MAYOR. SARAH, GOOD DRAFT. I DO HAVE ONE SUGGESTED EDIT. FIRST PARAGRAPH, LAST LINE REPLACE THE WORD WILDFIRE WITH WILDFIRE AND SUBSEQUENT FLOODING. BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE WILDFIRES THEMSELVES, IT'S THE FLOODING THAT OCCURS AFTER THE WILDFIRES THAT IS CAUSING, AS WE ALREADY KNOW, A LOT OF DAMAGE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE THAT EDIT BEFORE SENDING THE LETTER. THANK YOU. OTHER THAN THAT, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE LETTER. THANK YOU. GOOD SUGGESTION, COUNCILWOMAN MCCARTHY. ANYONE ELSE? COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND THANK YOU, MISS LANGLEY AND MR. CLIFTON FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA. I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS LETTER AS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND ALSO AS A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF THE ECONOMIC COLLABORATIVE OF NORTHERN ARIZONA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, I BELIEVE WE HAVE ENOUGH HEAD NODS TO PROCEED WITH THIS LETTER. SO, ALL RIGHT, LOTS OF THUMBS UP TO DOUBLES. YEAH, RIGHT ON. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THEN THAT BRINGS. THANK YOU, MISS LANGLEY. THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 14. [14. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS After discussion and upon agreement by three members of the Council, an item will be moved to a regularly-scheduled Council meeting.] OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS 14A AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUEST TO [02:20:01] CITIZENS PETITION SEEKING TO DESIGNATE THAT WOODY WAY TRAFFIC IS A ONE WAY STREET WESTBOUND, ONLY ALLOWING FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS. AND DO WE HAVE THE PETITIONER? THANK YOU. OK. MY NAME IS BRYN HALL, I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF FLAGSTAFF, AND I CURRENTLY LIVE AT THE INTERSECTION OF AX HANDLE AND HIGHLAND MESA. MY CITIZEN'S PETITION IS TO CLOSE WOODY WAY TO WESTBOUND TRAFFIC, MAKING A ONE WAY STREET. I FEEL THAT THIS IS THE LEAST INTRUSIVE AND LEAST EXPENSIVE WAY TO MEDIATE THIS SITUATION. AS I STATED IN A PREVIOUS PETITION TO THE COUNCIL, MY FRONT YARD HAS BEEN DRIVEN INTO TWICE WITHIN 14 DAYS. THE STOP SIGN WAS KNOCKED OVER IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, TWICE WITHIN 25 DAYS BY OUT-OF-CONTROL DRIVERS. BOTH OF THESE INCIDENTS HAPPENED IN MARCH OF 2021, AND ALL OF THOSE DRIVERS WERE COMING FROM OR GOING TO PRESIDIO IN THE PINES VIA THE NEW WOODY WAY THAT HAS BEEN OPENED. AX HANDLE AND WOODY WERE DESIGNED BY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TO BE TWENTY SIX FEET WIDE AS A TRAFFIC CALMING FEATURE. WITH THE ROAD BEING ONLY TWENTY FIVE AND A HALF FEET WIDE. IT MAKES IT VERY DANGEROUS FOR SPEEDING CARS TO NAVIGATE THE 90 DEGREE TURN, AS PROVEN BY THE BUS STOP CURB, DOWNED STOP SIGN AND FOUR CARS NEEDING THE ROAD SURFACE IN LESS THAN THREE MONTHS. THE INTERSECTION AT HIGHLAND MESA AND AX HANDLE IS NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE INCREASED VOLUME AND TRAFFIC THAT THE OPENING OF WOODY WAY HAS CREATED. THIS TRAFFIC STUDY DONE IN MAY OF 2021, SHOWED AN 880 PERCENT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC IN FRONT OF MY HOME. GOING FROM 93 CARS A DAY TO 818 CARS A DAY. CURRENTLY, WE'RE FUNNELING A THOUSAND VEHICLES A DAY FROM TWO 42 FOOT WIDE STREETS DOWN TO A TWENTY FIVE AND A HALF FOOT WIDE STREET. MULTIPLE PRESIDIO RESIDENTS HAVE PROVEN THEY CANNOT NAVIGATE THE WIDTH OF THE ROADS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE, CREATING A HAZARD TO PUBLIC SAFETY. PRESIDIO RESIDENTS WILL ARGUE THIS CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC TIME, BUT IF THEY'RE OBEYING TRAFFIC LAWS AND STOPPING AT THE STOP SIGN, IT'S NOT A SHORTCUT AT ALL. MY FIVE AND EIGHT YEAR OLD HAVE TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET TO GET TO THEIR BUS STOP EVERY DAY, AND SO AS A PARENT, IT'S TERRIFYING TO LIVE THERE. PRESIDIO RESIDENTS ALSO ARGUE THAT IT'S A NECESSARY EMERGENCY EXIT. THEY HAVE TWO EXITS FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'VE HAD TWO EXITS FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS HAS TWO EXITS FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A THIRD EXIT FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT I ASK COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT WHEN CONSIDERING THIS AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM IS HOW MANY TIMES WOULD IT BE? I MEAN, HOW MANY TIMES IS IT ACCEPTABLE FOR A CARS TO DRIVE INTO YOUR FRONT YARD WHERE YOUR CHILDREN PLAY? WHERE TONS OF OUR COMMUNITY CHILDREN PLAY? AND I REALLY JUST THINK SHUTTING IT DOWN TO A ONE WAY WOULD DECREASE THAT TRAFFIC AND INCREASE SAFETY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU GUYS FOR LISTENING, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE CITY STAFF HAS A SHORT PRESENTATION ON THIS AS WELL, AND WE WILL TAKE THAT AND THEN I WILL HAVE THE OTHER SPEAKER CARDS AND LET THE OTHER PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS AFTER THAT. PERFECT, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE SANTANA. I'M A TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING PROJECT MANAGER HERE AT THE CITY. I HAVE A QUICK PRESENTATION TO EXPLAIN WHAT CITY STAFF AND THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WITH REGARDS TO THE WOODY WAY CITIZEN PETITION THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. I WILL DISCUSS THE ROLE THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION HAS HAD WITH WOODY WAY AND UNIVERSITY AVENUE TRAFFIC CALMING. THEN I'LL GO OVER SOME BACKGROUND AND HISTORY OF WOODY WAY. WE WILL BRIEFLY GO OVER PREVIOUS TRAFFIC ACCOUNTS THAT THE CITY HAS COLLECTED IN THE AREA, DISCUSS THE CURRENT PILOT PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PLACE ON UNIVERSITY AVENUE. AND FINALLY, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE UPCOMING DISCUSSIONS THAT WE WILL HAVE AT THE NEXT TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION MEETING IN OCTOBER. HERE'S A MAP OF THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN TO ORIENT YOU WITH THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I'LL BE MENTIONING AND WHERE WOODY WAY IS IN CONJUNCTION. BOULDER POINT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE TO THE EAST. PRESIDIO IS A NEIGHBORHOOD HERE TO THE WEST, AND WOODY WAY IS A CONNECTOR ROAD HERE IN BETWEEN THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS. THE CITY HASN'T ADOPTED METHOD FOR DETERMINING IF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD MEETS MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES DUE TO HIGH SPEEDS OR VOLUMES. THE CITY, WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION'S CONCURRENCE, WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE METHODS DEFINED IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF GUIDEBOOK FOR RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT TO DETERMINE IF TRAFFIC CALMING IS NEEDED AND WHAT MEASURES ARE APPLICABLE FOR A GIVEN SITE. WHEN BOULDER POINT WAS DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED, THERE WAS A SMALL ROAD CALLED WOODY WAY, BUILT OFF THE EASTERN END OF THE DEVELOPMENT FOR FUTURE ACCESS TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY NOW KNOWN AS PRESIDIO IN THE PINES. [02:25:01] THE ORIGINAL PRESIDIO TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS PROJECTED THAT PLUS OR MINUS 580 TRIPS WOULD UTILIZE WOODY WAY. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ADDITIONAL BOULDER POINT TRIPS TO OR FROM THE WEST THAT WOULD BE EXPECTED ON TOP OF THE 580 TRIPS. WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY GONE OVER THIS IN DETAIL WITH COUNCIL AND TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION. BUT TO SUMMARIZE, A GATE WAS PLACED ACROSS WOODY WAY TO PREVENT PRESIDIO'S HEAVY CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC FROM GOING THROUGH THE BOULDER POINT NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CITY AGREED TO LEAVE THE GATE IN PLACE UNTIL 90 PERCENT OF THE HOMES IN PRESIDIO HAD BEEN OCCUPIED. AS OF OCTOBER 2019, PRESIDIO WAS ROUGHLY 95 PERCENT BUILT OUT. AND IN APRIL 2020, THE GATE WAS REMOVED BY THE CITY. WE AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE EASY AND GREAT TO CLOSE THIS ROADWAY. BUT THE REGIONAL PLAN, ZONING CODE AND THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS ARE ALL DOCUMENTS THAT ENCOURAGE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS. IT ALLOWS FOR SHORTER TRIPS ALONG WITH PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE CONNECTIVITY. TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING COMMITTED TO PERFORMING BEFORE AND AFTER TRAFFIC VOLUME AND SPEED STUDIES TO DETERMINE IF THERE WERE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS THAT WARRANT TRAFFIC CALMING AS A RESULT OF THE GATE REMOVAL. TRAFFIC COUNTS BEFORE THE GATE WAS REMOVED WERE CONDUCTED AND FALL OF 2019. THE CITY THEN PLANNED ON CONDUCTING AFTER THE GATE WAS REMOVED COUNTS IN FALL OF 2020, RIGHT AFTER COVID STARTED. IT WAS DECIDED THAT WE NEEDED TO WAIT UNTIL SCHOOLS, FUSD AND NAU WERE BACK TO IN-PERSON CLASSES TO TAKE THE AFTER COUNTS BECAUSE OF COURSE, THE DATA WOULD HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY LESS AND NOT ACCURATELY COMPARABLE TO THE BEFORE COUNTS. TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, SKYDANCE DECIDED TO TREAT THE UNIVERSITY AVENUE SPEEDING CONCERN SEPARATE FROM THE WOODY WAY GATE CONCERN. SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A PILOT PROJECT OF TEMPORARY TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES ALONG UNIVERSITY. THE UNIVERSITY PILOT PROJECT IS PROGRESSING NICELY, AND I HAVE SOME IMAGES IN THE UPCOMING SLIDES. FIRST, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE'VE COLLECTED OVER TIME. THIS INCLUDES SEVEN LOCATIONS IN BOULDER POINT, TWO LOCATIONS IN PRESIDIO, AND THEN MOST RECENTLY, WE'VE ADDED THE WOODY WAY. WE'VE HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS AND GONE INTO GREAT DETAIL OF THIS DATA WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND BOTH HOAS. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO AS MORE DATA IS COLLECTED. JUMPING TO SOME OF THE PILOT PROJECTS WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY, HERE IS THE WESTERN END OF OUR PILOT PROJECT. TO ORIENT YOU HERE, IN THE RIGHT CORNER IS A MAP. UNIVERSITY AVENUE IS HERE. THIS IS TOM BACH HERE, AND THIS IS MAJESTIC HERE. WE DECIDED THAT PUTTING A TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICE RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE RESIDENTIAL PART OF UNIVERSITY IS A GOOD WAY TO SEPARATE THE COMMERCIAL AREA FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. WE HAVE USED THESE CANDLESTICKS AS A TEMPORARY MEASURE SO WE CAN STUDY HOW WELL A CENTER ISLAND MEDIAN AND A BUMP OUT REDUCES SPEEDS IN THIS LOCATION. HERE'S AN IMAGE OF THE DEVICE AT GROUND LEVEL. MOVING ON, HERE'S THE EASTERN END OF OUR PILOT PROJECT. WE ALSO PLACED A CENTER ISLAND MEDIAN USING CANDLESTICKS JUST TO THE WEST OF MAJESTIC, SHOWN HERE WITH THE STAR. AND ONCE AGAIN, HERE IS AN IMAGE OF THE DEVICE AT GROUND LEVEL. THE THIRD TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE WE WANTED TO TRY WAS TO PLACE RADAR FEEDBACK SIGNS ALONG UNIVERSITY. TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AGREED THAT WE SHOULD PLACE ONE SIGN AT EACH OF THE STRAIGHTAWAYS. HERE'S WHAT THE WESTBOUND SIGNS LOOK LIKE AND THE OTHER TEMPORARY TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES IN THE BACKGROUND. THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE STUDY IS TO COLLECT TRAVEL ACCOUNTS TO SEE IF THE TEMPORARY TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES HAVE SLOWED SPEEDS. WE HAVE TWO WAYS OF COLLECTING DATA. ONE OF THEM THROUGH THEIR NEW RADAR FEEDBACK SIGNS AND THE OTHER IS OUR TYPICAL WAY OF LAYING OUT THE ROADWAY TUBES. SINCE I'VE COMPLETED THIS POWERPOINT A FEW WEEKS BACK, WE'VE ALREADY COLLECTED THE DATA FROM UNIVERSITY AND WOODY WAY. I LITERALLY PICKED UP THE COUNTERS JUST YESTERDAY. ONCE I HAVE THE TIME TO PROCESS AND ANALYZE THE DATA, I'LL BE LOOKING FOR ANY CHANGES IN SPEEDS OR VOLUMES, HOPING, OF COURSE, THAT THE SPEEDS GO DOWN. THE NEXT TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 6TH, AND WE PLAN TO DISCUSS THE NEW DATA THAT WAS JUST COLLECTED AND DETERMINE THE NEXT STEPS FORWARD. IF THE SPEEDS DO DECREASE, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND THE HOAS TO EITHER MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PILOT PROJECT OR MAKE THE CHANGES PERMANENT. THE WOODY WAY GATE AND UNIVERSITY AVENUE TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECTS ARE ONGOING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, AND THIS IS JUST A SHORT SUMMARY OF WHAT WE HAVE COMPLETED SO FAR. JEFF BAUMAN, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE DURING ANY POINT OF THIS FARE ITEM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. [02:30:06] THANK YOU. WELL, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE SPEAKERS NOW IN THE PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS. WELL, STARTING WITH MELODY BOWLING. PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, I AM A 50 YEAR RESIDENT OF FLAGSTAFF, I'VE WATCHED IT GROW FOR A LOT OF YEARS AND IT, AS MUCH AS I ENJOY A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED AS FAR AS OUR ROADS, OUR STREETS AND OUR SAFETY AS FAR AS OUR ROADS GO IS A CONCERN TO ME. I DON'T LIVE IN BOULDER POINT, BUT MY DAUGHTER AND HER FAMILY, WHICH INCLUDES MY TWO DEAR GRANDCHILDREN, DO. AND SO I'VE DRIVEN THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS FOR A LOT OF YEARS. AS SUCH, IN THE PAST YEAR, I HAVE EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND THE EFFECT OF INCREASED AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC, FROM THE PRESIDIO, THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE OPENING OF THE WOODY WAY. BOULDER POINT STREETS ARE NARROW. WHEN CARS CHOOSE TO PARK ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER, THERE'S ONLY ROOM FOR ONE WAY TRAFFIC AT THAT POINT. AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO PEOPLE WHO ARE PARKING LARGE VEHICLES ON THE ROADS SPECIFICALLY TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC, AND THAT IS ALSO DANGEROUS, BUT IT WORKS. AND THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE. WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC, I'VE HAD TO STOP ABRUPTLY NUMEROUS TIMES WHEN AGGRESSIVE SPEEDING DRIVERS WHO DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO SHARE THE ROAD COME THROUGH THAT ONE WAY WITHOUT LOOKING TO SEE IF SOMEONE IS COMING. I'VE HAD TO ACTUALLY BACK UP TO LET THEM THROUGH. THESE SITUATIONS ARE DEFINITELY INCREASING WITH THE OPENING OF WOODY WAY. SURELY THE STREETS OF BOULDER POINT WERE NOT DESIGNED TO SUPPORT THIS AMOUNT OF INCREASED TRAFFIC. I PERSONALLY WITNESSED CAR AFTER CAR COMING UP HIGHLAND MESA DRIVE IGNORING THE STOP SIGN AT AX HANDLE WAY, AS THEY TURN LEFT TOWARD WOODY WAY INTO THE PRESIDIO. AND IF ANYONE IS WATCHING THEM, THEY MANIFEST THEIR BELLIGERENCE TOWARD THE TRAFFIC SIGN AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND IT THROUGH UNACCEPTABLE HAND GESTURES AND PROFANITY, MANY TIMES WITH NEIGHBORHOOD CHILDREN BEING EXPOSED TO SUCH UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR. IT SEEMS THAT THEY'RE MAKING A STATEMENT THAT ENDS WITH AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL BOULDER RESIDENTS AND ESPECIALLY THEIR CHILDREN, I'M HOPING THAT THE COUNCIL CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THEREFORE, I'M SUPPORTING THIS CURRENT PETITION TO MAKE WOODY WAY A ONE WAY STREET TO AT LEAST REDUCE TRAFFIC FROM THE PRESIDIO BY HALF THROUGH THE BOULDER POINT NEIGHBORHOOD. PLEASE DON'T WAIT TO TAKE ACTION UNTIL SOMEONE IS HURT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. BOWLING. GARRETT HALL? THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION TONIGHT ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE, AND IT IS RIGHT HERE IN THE MISSION STATEMENT TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL. THE OPENING OF THIS ROAD HAS HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON MY QUALITY OF LIFE. I'M TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THE PROCESSES, I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC STUDIES COMPLETED AND THAT EVERYTHING MATTERS AND IT CAN FALL INTO PLACE AND YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH THIS IS IMPACTING PEOPLE. BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE THAN JUST THE NUMBER OF CARS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE NOISE ORDINANCES. THE NOISE THAT COMES FROM THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE UNDER ACCELERATION COMING THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. PEOPLE ARE IN A VERY BIG HURRY. AND THIS HAS IMPACTED OUR ABILITY TO HAVE OUR COMMUNITY TO FORM OUR BONDS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. WHEN PEOPLE COME THROUGH THERE, THEY SAY, WOW, I REALLY FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. I REALLY FEEL BAD FOR YOU. THIS MUST BE AWFUL. AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, IT'S AWFUL. THERE'S NOT A LOT TO DO ABOUT IT. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF BEING RESPONSIVE TO US. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THESE MEN AND WOMEN ARE DOING. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A LOW PRIORITY IN TERMS OF THE HIERARCHY OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT IT IS PUBLIC SAFETY. WHEN THESE PEOPLE COME OUT, THEY DO COME OUT AT 10 O'CLOCK AND STAY FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS UNTIL THEY GET SOMETHING MORE PRESSING THAT THEY NEED TO DO AND THEY DO PULL PEOPLE OVER. BUT THAT'S A DROP IN THE BUCKET BECAUSE PEOPLE COME THROUGH HERE WITH QUITE AN ATTITUDE. AND YOU CAN SEE THESE IN THEIR COMMENTS ONLINE JUST RESPONDING TO OUR EXERCISING OUR [02:35:01] RIGHTS TO BRING THIS TO YOU AS A PETITION. ONE PRESIDIO RESIDENT ON THE NEXT DOOR APP SAYS THIS IS A SHORT STRETCH, TALKING ABOUT WOODY WAY, PEOPLE STILL SNEAK WEST SMILEY EMOJI OR THOMAS STEED SIT ON THERE IN AN OPEN FORUM. PEOPLE WHO STILL GO EAST WHO WOULD PATROL THIS. AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, IS THAT PEOPLE WITH WILLFUL DISREGARD FOR THE LAW THINK THAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO COME THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE IT'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD. I WAS OUT THERE TRYING TO HELP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DO THESE THINGS WITH TAKING PICTURES OF LICENSE PLATES SO I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION AND PASS IT ALONG TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE ACTION ON THESE DRIVERS THAT ARE FREQUENT. AND WHEN I WAS OUT THERE TAKING A PICTURE OF THE LICENSE PLATE, A GUY CAME OUT AND HE ROLLS DOWN HIS WINDOW. HE FLIPPED ME OFF IN FRONT OF MY KIDS AND SAID. I WILL RUN THIS F-ING STOP SIGN EVERY DAY, AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. I CALLED POLICE AND I DID GET A DESCRIPTION AND THEY DID CONTACT HIM. HE DROVE BY 2:00 IN THE MORNING. I WITNESSED HIM COMING THROUGH WITH BLAZING HIS HORN JUST TO DISRUPT OUR LIVES EVEN MORE. THE POLICE SAID DID YOU SEE WHO WAS DRIVING THE CAR? IT'S NIGHTTIME. IT'S TINT. I CAN'T DO THAT. THESE THINGS DON'T HAVE SOLUTIONS. SO MAYBE HE'S RIGHT, MAYBE THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT THAT, BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS SOME REGARD FOR OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND OUR SAFETY, WHICH IS YOUR MISSION. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MY TIME HAS EXPIRED. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. HALL. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FINISH YOUR SPEECH, I'D BE HAPPY TO LET YOU PROCEED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO APPRECIATE THAT. MR. MAYOR, IS THERE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THAT AND DO IT IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS. I HAVE A QUESTION. MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS. MR. HALL? YES. ALL RIGHT, YES, YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND THE LADY, THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN YOUR NAME, BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. SO I UNDERSTAND AND I'VE BEEN IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND ACTUALLY LIVE IN BOULDER POINT FOR THREE YEARS, SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE TRAFFIC THERE, BUT THAT WAS BETWEEN 2006 AND 2008. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU ON STEPS FORWARD. FOCUSING ON THE PILOT PROJECTS THAT STAFF HAS ENGAGED SO FAR, AND WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE PILOT PROJECT AND WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU CAN PROVIDE TO STAFF AND COUNCIL AT THIS POINT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION, WHEN WE HAD THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION MEETING, THE LAST TIME THAT I WAS PRESENT FOR, THEY SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO ISSUES, THE SPEED ON UNIVERSITY AND THE WOODY WAY TRAFFIC INCREASE. SO THEY DID COME UP WITH THIS PLAN. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS PLAN IN 2007. I WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA BOARD FOR BOULDER POINT. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SPEED ON UNIVERSITY BACK THEN AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THESE MEDIANS. THEY DID FINALLY GO IN. WHAT THEY DIDN'T MENTION IN THE PRESENTATION IS THAT THOSE PICTURES SHOW YOU WHERE THE CANDLESTICK MEDIANS ARE. THEY MOVE THOSE ABOUT A FOOT IN BECAUSE THEY KEPT GETTING RUN OVER. WHAT THEY DON'T TELL YOU, IS THAT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS REPORTED THAT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS WERE OUT MOVING, PUTTING THOSE BARRIERS BACK UP AND SOMEBODY CAME THROUGH AND LAID ON THE HORN WHILE THE WORKERS WERE IN THE ROAD. THAT'S THE KIND OF IMPACT THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH THE DISRESPECT AND THE DRIVERS THAT ARE IN A HURRY. I THINK A LOT OF THEM ARE COMMUTING THROUGH TO GET TO GORE. I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH. ALSO, THE CITY STAFF'S PRESENTATION SAID THAT THERE ARE SEPARATE NEIGHBORHOODS IN AN EMAIL BACK TO US, THEY SAID THAT THEY'RE THE SAME NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY DON'T COUNT THAT AS CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, WHICH IS CLEARLY IS BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT DENSITIES OF ZONING AND DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF RESIDENCES. THE IMPACT OF THOSE, THE SPEED AWARENESS SIGNS, THOSE ARE GOOD IF YOU CARE. BUT I THINK THAT PEOPLE HAVE AN IDEA OF RECENTLY THAT I COULD GO FIVE MILES AN HOUR OVER THE SPEED LIMIT AND NOBODY'S GOING TO PULL ME OVER FOR THAT. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT STUFF HAPPENS. THE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES ARE NOWHERE NEAR WHERE THIS INTERSECTION IS. AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THIS 90 DEGREE TURN WHERE STILL 850 PEOPLE COME THROUGH EACH DAY. WE'RE AT THE END OF THAT AND I USED TO THINK, OH MAN, IS THIS GUY GOING TO STOP AT THE STOP SIGN? CURRENTLY, I LOOK AT THEM, I SAY THEY'RE DEFINITELY NOT STOPPING AT THE STOP SIGN. IN FACT, I'M WONDERING IF THEY'RE GOING TO TURN AND THAT COMES STRAIGHT, IT'S POINTED STRAIGHT AT MY HOUSE WHERE MY KIDS PLAY AND I'VE TRIED TO GET INTO THE BACKYARD AND I'VE TRIED TO NOT GET INTO THE FRONT YARD, BUT I STILL HAVE TO WATER MY PLANTS. I STILL HAVE TO PICK UP MY PINE NEEDLES AND WHEN I'M OUT THERE, IT CAUSES [02:40:03] CONSTANT STRESS WHEN I GET HOME FOR A LONG SHIFT WORK. AND PEOPLE TAILGATE ME THE WHOLE WAY DOWN THE HIGHLAND MESA FOR DOING THE SPEED LIMIT, AND THEN I TRY TO GET INTO MY DRIVEWAY AND THEY RUN THE STOP SIGN AND THEY TRY TO PASS ME WHILE I'M TRYING TO MANEUVER. IT IS A VERY STRESSFUL THING BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF KIDS, THERE ARE A LOT OF DOG WALKERS, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON BICYCLES. AND SO THERE'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS OF THINGS AND THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST IN SUCH A HURRY. SO I THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES, I THANK THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION FOR APPROVING THOSE FURTHER DOWN, BUT THEY LIKE THEY SAID THIS IS A SEPARATE ISSUE. I DON'T SEE HOW A 90 DEGREE TURN CAN BE AN IMPROVED UPON BY A CANDLESTICK DELINEATORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO TALKING TO THE POLICE CHIEF, I WAS THANKING HIM FOR WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO WITH ENFORCEMENT ON THAT. AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO ALSO COME UP WITH A MORE ENGINEERING CONTROL SOLUTION RATHER THAN AN ENFORCEMENT SOLUTION, SOMETHING THAT'S A LOT MORE PERMANENT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PROVIDE WAYS TO GET THIS MOVED AHEAD AND LIKE A ONE WAY STREET WOULD NOT IMPACT THE ABILITY OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO MOVE WITHIN THAT. THE EMERGENCY GATE WAS, I DON'T THINK, A BIG DETERRENT TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES. THEY HAD A LOCK BOX KEY ON THERE. THEY COULD STILL OPEN IT UP FOR EMERGENCIES AND EVACUATIONS. AND THAT'S A FREE SOLUTION TO THIS. I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO INFRASTRUCTURE GOING THROUGH THE PACKET OF INFORMATION THERE. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALSO EXAMINE HOW THE STREETS ARE VERY NARROW AND THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC FOR THOSE NARROW STREETS. WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN LEAVE THAT BECAUSE OF HOUSING VALUES AND FLAGSTAFF. OF COURSE, OUR HOUSE HAS GONE UP TOO, BUT THE COMMISSIONS TO MOVE FROM THERE WOULD PUT US IN A FINANCIAL HOLE WE CAN'T LEAVE. SO WE'RE COMING HERE TO PUT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HALL. MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY JUST MAKE A COMMENT TO OUR SPEAKER? PLEASE CONTINUE WORKING WITH OUR STAFF AS WE ADDRESS THIS ISSUE MOVING FORWARD, AND I INVITE YOU ALSO TO ATTEND FUTURE MEETINGS WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND PLEASE WORK WITH US. WE HAVE TO FIND A MEANINGFUL AND IMPACTFUL SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUES. THANK YOU. IF I MAY, WHAT WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT THE APRIL 15TH, 2021, JEFF BAUMAN SAID THAT THERE WAS A 10 PERCENT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC AND WHEN WE GOT THE DATA FROM CITY STAFF, IT WAS MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THERE'S A DISCREPANCY MAYBE OF SILO OF INFORMATION THAT THIS IS A BIG, IMPACTFUL PROBLEM. WHEN WE CAME TO YOU GUYS THE LAST TIME, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT DATA. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. THANK YOU, MR. HALL. COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI? I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE SPEAKER, BUT I'LL COME BACK, MAYBE COME BACK TO ME IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR? OK, WELL, THEN WELL, THANK YOU, MR. HALL, WE'LL TURN THIS INTO THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A VIRTUAL PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL, WE DO HAVE A VIRTUAL PUBLIC COMMENT. OK. I'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT NOW. WE HAVE KAREN WOODS ON THE LINE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE WHEN TURN ON YOUR CAMERA IF YOU'D LIKE. THANK YOU. HELLO. HELLO, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KAREN WOODS. AM I? CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. OK. I LIVE ON THE CORNER OF HIGHLAND MESA AND MAJESTIC. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THE I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. MY HUSBAND AND I BUILT OUR HOME THERE 20 YEARS AGO. AND I WILL SAY THE TRAFFIC HAS NEVER BEEN MORE HORRENDOUS. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE SEVERAL CARS PARKED ON THE STREET. I'M SORRY YOU'RE YOU'RE BREAKING UP A LITTLE BIT, COULD YOU? I'M SORRY WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU ON OUR END HERE. COULD YOU GET CLOSER TO YOUR MICROPHONE AND SEE IF THAT MIGHT HELP? THAT'S WHAT'S. COULD WE SEE ABOUT RECONNECTING THE INDIVIDUAL? YES, MA'AM. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TRY TO GET HER. [02:45:02] YEAH. OK, THANK YOU, YEAH. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DISCONNECT AND RECONNECT AND SEE IF WE CAN HEAR YOU BETTER. AM I CONNECTED? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU. WE CAN HEAR YOU, OK. DO YOU WANT ME TO START GO? YES, IF YOU COULD START OVER, I'D APPRECIATE IT. OK, SO MY NAME IS KAREN WOODS, I LIVE ON THE CORNER OF HIGHLAND MESA AND MAJESTIC. AND THEN THERE. FOR 20 YEARS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE TRAFFIC HAS NEVER BEEN MORE HORRENDOUS. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE SEVERAL CARS, HOWEVER, STREET WHICH ONLY ALLOW. [INAUDIBLE]. MS. WOODS, I'M SORRY, WE'RE HAVING NOW TROUBLE HEARING YOU, WE HEARD THE FIRST PART OF YOUR FIRST 30 SECONDS, BUT IT IS NOT TAKEN. WE ARE. YEAH, IF WE COULD HAVE YOU DEFINITELY EMAIL US TO COUNCIL, THEN WE CAN, WE COULD EVEN. YEAH, READ THIS WHILE WE'RE IN DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TROUBLES WITH THE CONNECTION. DO WE SEND THAT IN THE CHAT, I SAW THAT OK? IT'S SAID COUNCIL@FLAGSTAFFAZ.GOV AND I WILL SEND TO ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS THE ONLY PUBLIC PARTICIPANT WE HAVE ELECTRONICALLY. YES, MAYOR. OK, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OPENING THIS UP TO COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI? THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO BROUGHT THIS FORWARD AND AND EXPRESSED VULNERABILITY IN HONESTY AND HUMILITY IN YOUR COMMENTS. I FEEL FOR YOU ALL. AND THIS IS A TOUGH SITUATION. I THINK WE'RE FACING THIS ISSUE IN A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS RIGHT NOW AROUND THE COMMUNITY. PLACES LIKE LA PLAZA VIEJA FOR MANY YEARS AND JUST IT'S A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING AND PEOPLE LIKE TO DRIVE THEIR CARS AND AT TIMES WE MIGHT OVERBUILT FOR CARS. BUT I'M PROUD TO SAY WE HAVE THIN ROADS HERE, RIGHT, RICK. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I PERSONALLY ADVOCATE FOR BECAUSE OF FORCES THAT TYPE OF SPEED MITIGATION, LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS DESIGN ORIENTED, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO ADDRESS THIS, BUT IT'S ONE WAY THAT I HEAR WORKS. SO YOU BUILD A WORLDWIDE THERE. PEOPLE SPEED IN, NEIGHBORS COMPLAIN. YOU BUILD A THIN. IT CREATES OTHER OBSTACLES, BUT HOPEFULLY HELPS US SLOW FOLKS DOWN. BUT I APPRECIATE THE TRAFFIC CALMING MITIGATIONS THAT WERE DOING THAT WERE PRESENTED UPON BY STAFF. I WONDER WHAT ELSE COULD BE DONE IN A HOLISTIC MANNER TO LOOK AT TRAFFIC CALMING, NOT JUST FOR A PROBLEM LOCATION. YOU'RE DONE. I'M OUT OF TIME. NO MORE TALKING. AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. SO SORRY. OK, I'LL WRAP IT UP. I GET IT. I GET IT. OKAY, I'LL SPEED IT UP AND WRAP IT UP. SO I KNOW THINGS TAKE A WHILE. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING THROUGH THE COMMISSIONS AND THEY'RE WRESTLING WITH IT. THEY'RE THE EXPERTS, NOT ME. THOSE COMMISSIONS KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS AND AND HELP US WRESTLE WITH THESE THINGS. I AM CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THE COMMISSIONS HANDLE IT. I APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY BRINGING IT TO US PROACTIVELY, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO LET IT RUN ITS COURSE THROUGH THE CITY COMMISSIONS FIRST AND SEE WHAT THEY COME UP WITH, AND THEN WE CAN REVISIT IT AS A COUNCIL. I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY ON THIS. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL FEEL, BUT I THINK THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD GIVE THE CHANCE TO WRESTLE WITH IT AND EXPLORE MITIGATIONS TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITIES. AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION IN THE MITIGATIONS THEY'RE EXPLORING CURRENTLY, IF [02:50:04] POSSIBLE, RICK INTO THE COMMISSION'S OPTIONS THAT DON'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT BIKE AND PED WOULD BE A PRIORITY TO ME. I KNOW IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO TO, YOU KNOW, MEET ALL THE NEEDS OF OUR TRANSPORTATION COMMUNITY. BUT IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, MESSAGE TO THE COMMISSIONS WOULD BE WHAT OUR OPTIONS THAT DON'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE BIKE LANE, EVEN IF THERE TECHNICALLY ISN'T A BIKE LANE THERE. BUT ANYWAYS. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, DESIGN VERSUS ENFORCEMENT, ATLAS WAS MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE THESE TYPES OF THINGS, BUT IF WE CAN DESIGN BETTER FOR IT, I THINK ALL WE CAN DO IS ATTEMPT TO MITIGATE. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. AND SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI. COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN? OK, WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M ON YOUR SIDE ON THIS, I'M READY TO SHUT THE GATE. I'M READY FOR THAT. NOT TO BE A METHOD OF TRAVEL FOR VEHICLES ANYMORE. THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT UNIVERSITY AND BOULDER POINT IN GENERAL IS BEING TREATED LIKE A THROUGH STREET FOR ANOTHER VERY BUSY, CROWDED NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO BE A THROUGH STREET. AND IT SHOULDN'T BE OPERATED AS ONE. YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T LIKE TO MICROMANAGE THESE THINGS. I AM NOT A TRAFFIC EXPERT. I AM NOT A CITY STREETS ENGINEER. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE WHO THINK ABOUT THIS FULL TIME AND THEY CAN CONSIDER A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I'LL NEVER EVEN THINK ABOUT. AND I'M ALSO VERY. PROUD OF OUR THE COMMISSIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, AND I FIND IT THE PROCESS OF INVOLVING THOSE COMMISSIONS TO BE SACROSANCT. IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR PROCESS IN OPEN, TRANSPARENT CITY GOVERNMENT. BUT I'VE BEEN THROUGH THERE A NUMBER OF TIMES. I SPENT A FEW HOURS RIGHT ON THAT CORNER AFTER THE LAST CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT WOODY WAY. AND THERE WAS AN OFFICER THERE, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WE HAD A NICE LONG CONVERSATION AS WELL WHILE HE WAS MONITORING THE THE TRAFFIC. I CAN, YOU KNOW, I CAN JUST START TO PUT MYSELF IN YOUR SHOES AND TO APPRECIATE WHAT A NIGHTMARE YOU GUYS ARE EXPERIENCING. AND I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THAT MYSELF ON MY STREET WHEN IT WASN'T AN ISSUE BEFORE. AND I THINK THE CLEAREST, THE CLEAR. I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO. IS SHUT DOWN THAT ROAD. AND THEN WE COULD HAVE A LONGER CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS? THERE ARE OTHER WAYS FOR PRESIDIO. TRAFFIC TO GET INTO TOWN. OTHER APPROPRIATE WAYS, AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT I'M ON YOUR SIDE ON THIS AND I WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE THAT PROBLEM GO AWAY. AND I THINK THE ONLY RIGHT NOW, THE CLEAREST SINGULAR WAY TO MAKE THAT PROBLEM GO AWAY IS TO SHUT THE GATE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. VICE MAYOR? THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I'M SORRY FOR THE WAY SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEHAVED, AND I'M SORRY FOR THE STRESS THAT THIS HAS BROUGHT TO YOU AND ALL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS. WE ALL SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY WHERE WE LIVE AND FEEL SAFE WHERE WE LIVE. SO I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS THAT TO YOU. I TOO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS. I MEAN, MAYBE A SHORT TERM SOLUTION IS SHUTTING IT AND THEN REOPENING IT LATER. I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD LIKE THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION. I MEAN, THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND STAFF TO REALLY DECIDE THAT. AND I THINK WHAT WE HAVE HERE TOO, IS AN EVEN BIGGER PROBLEM THAT WE SEE ALL AROUND TOWN. AND THAT'S ANGRY DRIVERS DRIVING TOO FAST, BEING TOO AGGRESSIVE, NOT THINKING OF POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES OF THE WAY THEY DRIVE AND. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO ABOUT THAT, OTHER THAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS IN [02:55:01] COUNCIL ABOUT PEOPLE NEED TO SLOW DOWN AND PEOPLE NEED TO RESPECT NEIGHBORHOODS AND BEHAVE AS THEY WOULD LIKE PEOPLE TO BEHAVE IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THERE'S THAT. THANKS. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING AND SPEAKING INTO THE ONLINE SPEAKERS AND FOR ALL OF THE EMAILS I DO DRIVE THROUGH BOULDER POINT QUITE OFTEN. AND I WENT TO PRESIDIO YESTERDAY AFTER THINKING LONG AND HARD THAT I NEEDED TO GO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK. I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE BEFORE AND BEEN TO WOODY WAY AND I SEE THE TRAFFIC INCREASING. I GO TO BOULDER POINT EVERY OTHER WEEK AND I HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS AND I HAVE SEEN THE TRAFFIC INCREASE, SO THERE IS NO DOUBT ON THAT. I AM CURIOUS TO SEE IF THE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES HAVE HELPED. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE RESULTS AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT IN YET. THIS IS GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION, BECAUSE IT'S I THINK IT'S MORE INVOLVED THAN JUST YOUR CORNER. I THINK THIS IS THAT WHOLE AREA. AND AGAIN, I JUST APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP AND BRINGING THIS TO US, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE RESULTS ON THE MITIGATION EFFORTS THAT WE ARE HAVING SO FAR. AND PEOPLE DO NEED TO SLOW DOWN. SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD REMINDER FOR ALL OF US. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS FOR NOW. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY? A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I THINK THE NUMBERS OF, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON UNIVERSITY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE ANALYZING THE REPORT WHEN I READ IT YESTERDAY, WAS ON UNIVERSITY IN THE AREA OF THE CANDLESTICKS. WHEN WE OPENED UP WOODY WAY, THAT TRAFFIC WENT UP ONLY ABOUT 10 PERCENT. NOW, OVER ON AX HANDLE, WHERE YOU FOLKS LIVE OR SOME OF YOU, I'M SURE THAT TRAFFIC HAS GONE UP WAY MORE THAN 10 PERCENT. SO I CAN APPRECIATE HOW YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. BUT I GUESS THE MAIN POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS ALL THE DATA MAY BE GOOD. IT'S JUST THAT IT'S TAKEN AT DIFFERENT PLACES 10 PERCENT AT UNIVERSITY AND WAY HIGHER THAN THAT AT JACKSONVILLE. I JUST HAPPEN TO LIVE ONE HOUSE AWAY FROM HIGHLAND MESA IS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND MY NEIGHBOR WHO LIVES RIGHT ON HIGHLAND MESA, IS BEEN COMPLAINING TO ME ABOUT NOISE OF MOTORCYCLES AND HOT CARS GOING THROUGH THERE AND THAT SO THAT IS A REAL ISSUE. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT I WAS AT A COUNCIL MEETING WHEN THEY WERE CONSIDERING THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND AND, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND EVERYTHING ABOUT PRESIDIO. SO THIS IS BEFORE PRESIDIO WAS BUILT. AND COUNCIL HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT SHOULD THIS ROAD BE OPENED OR CLOSED. AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WHICH IS WHAT PROBABLY 10 YEARS AGO, COUNCIL MADE A DECISION THAT IT WOULD STAY CLOSED. AND I WON'T BOTHER YOU WITH ALL THE DETAILS, BUT DURING CONSTRUCTION. AND. THAT WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION WAS ESSENTIALLY DONE, THAT THE ROAD WOULD BE OPENED. SO IN EFFECT, THAT WAS A PROMISE TO THE PEOPLE IN THE PRESIDIO THAT THAT ROAD WOULD BE OPEN AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY TOOK INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THEY BOUGHT HOUSES OVER THERE. SO I'M NOT REALLY TAKING SIDES ON THIS ISSUE. I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE THE COUNCIL ALL OF THE BACKGROUND THAT I AM PERSONALLY AWARE OF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. JUMPING IN HERE TO SAY THAT I FEEL FOR YOU. I MEAN, I WAS RAISING MY YOUNG KIDS, MY BABY BORN IN OUR HOME ON A STREET THAT PEOPLE DRIVE FORTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR ON INTO 25, WHERE I WAS NEVER LET MY KIDS OUT FRONT AND WAS SCARED TO BE SNOW SHOVELING WHILE THEY'RE TWO YEARS OLD, PLAYING ON THE SNOW PILE OF PILES. WITH ME WALKING INTO THE ROAD TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN AND THEN DOING SAME HAND GESTURES AS YOU ALL ARE EXPERIENCING IN THE SAME WORDS. AND THAT'S, THAT IS STRESSFUL AND IT'S BOTHERSOME. BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS, IS THAT IN MY CASE, I KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO BE HAPPENING ON THAT STREET. [03:00:01] AND I DEFINITELY CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS SUCH FRAUGHT FOR YOU ALL AND RAISING YOUR FAMILY AND LIVING IN A SAFE HOME. I WILL PROBABLY BE ECHOING A LOT OF WHAT OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL SAID, WHICH IS THAT SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS. THAT WE THAT THIS NEEDS TO ALSO GO THROUGH COMMISSIONS, THE INDIVIDUALS WHO KNEW FAR BETTER THAN I DO OR WE DO AS A COUNCIL BODY TO SEE WHAT ARE ALL THE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN PURSUE. THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS PROCESS IS PRETTY STRICT. SO IF WE DID MOVE THIS FORWARD TODAY, THE ONLY OPTION WE COULD CONSIDER FOR THAT ROAD WOULD BE TURNING IT ONE WAY. AND THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERN WOULD BE BY PUSHING THIS FORWARD. AND I AM OPEN TO ANY OF THE OPTIONS, WHETHER IT'S EVEN CLOSING THAT ROAD. BUT AS THE FAIR PETITION STATES, THAT WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE WORTH, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CONSIDER THAT AT A FUTURE DISCUSSION IF WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE PETITION AS WORDED. SO I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I STAND, UNLESS OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK UP TO SAYING LET'S PURSUE THIS FORWARD. IT DOES SEEM THAT WE ARE ON A SIMILAR PAGE FOR THIS, BUT I WON'T SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF. QUICK, QUICK QUESTION. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. AFTER THE COMMISSION WERE TO SEE THIS AND WRESTLE WITH THIS FURTHER. DOES THAT COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT ALL IN THE FORM OF AN UPDATE, MAYBE EVEN PART OF A EMAIL UPDATE, PART OF THE[INAUDIBLE] REPORT? I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT HOW THIS LOOKS MOVING FORWARD IF THIS VARIANCE GETS VOTED DOWN? YOUR HONOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, REFER TO THE ENGINEER. IT CERTAINLY CAN, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE, WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN. I WOULD PERSONALLY BE OPEN TO THAT, ALONG WITH OTHER TRAFFIC MITIGATION. WHAT'S THE WORD PILOTS THAT WE'RE EXPLORING. MAYBE IT COULD BE PART OF A PILOT CONVERSATION REGARDING TRAFFIC CALMING MITIGATION, AND THIS COULD BE PART OF THAT. AND THEN IS THERE A TIMELINE AT ALL THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOW THAT LOOKS? WELL, WE'RE MOVING AS TRAFFIC. EXCUSE ME, I DO IT TO TRANSPORTATION STAFF. AS THEY INDICATED, THEY JUST PICKED UP THEIR ACCOUNTS TODAY, AND IT'S CRITICAL FOR US THAT WHEN WE PERFORM COUNTS THAT WE HAVE SCHOOLS IN PLACE, INCLUDING NAU, FUSD, ALL THE ABOVE. SO THAT'S BEEN DONE. WE JUST PICKED UP THE HOSES TODAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE CRUNCHING DATA WITH THE INTENT TO GET IN FRONT OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION FIRST, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER. I THINK THEY SAID THE SIXTH. SO THAT'S OUR SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW. SO DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT TO COUNCIL KNOW AS SOON AS THE CITY MANAGER CAN GET IT ON AGENDA FOR US. GREAT, THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING HOW THOSE COMMISSION MEETINGS GO. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE WILL BE MOVING ON UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THEY WOULD PREFER A SEAT WITH THIS FAIR. AND I'M NOT HEARING IT RIGHT NOW, SO THANK YOU ALL. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK HARD. I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER YOU MAY WANT BECAUSE I WANT THIS SOLVED MYSELF RIGHT AWAY IF I WAS IN YOUR SHOES, BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY KEEP OUR FINGER ON THE PULSE. MOVE IT AS FAST AS WE CAN THROUGH THE RIGHT PROCESSES. SO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, BEFORE WE CLOSE THE ITEM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CLOSURE OF THAT ROAD AS ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS TO THIS. AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT'S BACK ON THE TABLE AS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. I KNOW I WASN'T IN FAVOR OF THAT THE LAST TIME THIS TOPIC CAME UP, BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND I'VE SEEN ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THAT SHOULD BE A VIABLE OPTION FOR US TO CHOOSE FROM. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, WE'VE TAKEN REALLY GOOD NOTES DURING THIS, AND WE'LL LET IT PLAY ITS COURSE THROUGH THE COMMISSION AND YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE IT AGAIN AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE OPTIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THAT BRINGS US DOWN TO OUR AGENDA ITEM 15, WHICH IS OUR CITY COUNCIL [15. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS AND REPORTS FROM COUNCIL AND STAFF, CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. AND I'LL JUST NOTE THAT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY THE FARES. THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL TWO FROM. SO DO WE HAVE, SO RATHER THAN GOING DOWN THE LIST OF EVERYONE, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY FARES FOR TODAY? ALL RIGHT. CITY MANAGER? I DO NOT HAVE A FARE. THAT'S THE SAFE ASSUMPTION MOVING FORWARD AS WELL. I JUST WANTED TO INTERJECT HERE. WE TOOK SOME LIBERTIES HERE AND I WERE ONCE AGAIN LOOKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. WE BIFURCATED WHAT USED TO BE ONE SECTION, ONE AGENDA ITEM, WHICH WAS [03:05:02] INFORMATIONAL TO AND FROM AND REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO WE PUT THE INFORMATIONAL STUFF UP FRONT. COUNCIL INDICATED THEY WANTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS DIALOG TWICE. WE WE KEPT THAT UP FRONT AND IN THE AGENDA AND THEN MOVED THE FAIR PORTION OF THIS TO THE END OF THE AGENDA, GIVING YOU AN OPPORTUNITY. BUT THAT'S THE IDEA HERE, AND WE'D BE LOOKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THAT CITY MANAGER. MY FEEDBACK TO THE COUNCIL AND I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU ALL THINK IS, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT, THE SPIRIT OF WHAT YOU WERE BRINGING UP EARLIER COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY, WHICH I AGREED WITH WHOLEHEARTEDLY, IS SOMETIMES AT THE END OF THE COUNCIL MEETING. I LIKE TO HAVE A CLOSING WORD, A COMMENT TO THE PUBLIC AND COMMENT TO MY COLLEAGUES, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. AND I LIKE FOR US TO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO JUST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT BRIEF MOMENT AT THE END OF A MEETING. SO I GUESS THAT'S MY COMMENT, CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MCCARTHY? I ALSO THINK, AS I SAID BEFORE AND IS MR. SHIMONI JUST SAID THAT JUST A FEW MINUTES TO GO AROUND ONCE AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION DURING THE MEETING TRIGGERS YOUR THOUGHT THAT YOU MAY WANT TO BRING THAT OUT AND DISCUSS IT WITH THE COUNCIL. AND I REALIZE WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT, BUT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, JUST BRING IT UP REAL BRIEFLY. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN? YEAH. I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT. A MOMENT AGO, I FORGOT TO DO THIS, BUT I WANTED TO WISH COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TOMORROW. AND SHE'S SMILING FOR A VERY PARTICULAR REASON. COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS? CAN I START THAT TONE FROM NOW, MR. MAYOR? I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CIRCLE BACK ALSO AT THE END OF THE MEETING TO BECAUSE I ACTUALLY SAVED TWO ITEMS THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY AT THIS POINT BECAUSE I WAS ANTICIPATING A TO AND FRO FOR AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM, WHICH IS REALLY, COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TOMORROW AS WELL. WE HAVE THE SAME BIRTHDAY. ALSO, AND IF I MAY CONTINUE, MR. MAYOR, I WANT TO ALSO TAKE A MOMENT TO FIRST, I WANT TO LIFT UP, AND IF I COULD EXTEND A VIRTUAL HUG TO EVERY MEMBER OF THE FLAGSTAFF. I WOULD DO THAT AND I COULD HUG YOU IN PERSON, I WOULD. SO I WOULD WANT TO LIFT UP EVERY MEMBER OF OUR TEAM FLAGSTAFF, INCLUDING INTERNS AND ALSO VOLUNTEERS AND COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE ALL ARE ACTUALLY PART OF TEAM FLAGSTAFF. YOU KNOW, LOSING ONE OF OURS YESTERDAY. JUST HIT HOME. SO. TAKING THIS MOMENT TO SEND LOVE, COMPASSION, SYMPATHY. AND ALSO, MY HEART GOES OUT AND THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO TO THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF. MR. BRAD PETERSON. YEAH. YEAH, AND PLEASE, I LOVE GIVING HUGS, SO IF YOU SHOW UP AT THE MEETING, I WILL GIVE YOU A HUG. UM. ON A LIGHTER NOTE. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CALL OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO, IF YOU CAN, OUR FLAGSTAFF SHELTER SERVICES NEED SUPPLIES FOR MASS COLD, FLU TABLETS, TOOTHBRUSHES, LAUNDRY, LAUNDRY DETERGENT AND OTHER PERSONAL HYGIENE PRODUCTS. IF YOU HAVE THOSE SUPPLIES TO SHARE, PLEASE DROP THEM OFF AT THE SHELTER ON HUNTINGTON BETWEEN NINE AND 3:00 P.M.. AND LASTLY, I ALSO WANT TO LIFT UP OUR TEAM OF FLAGSTAFF, WHO WERE DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY INVOLVED IN BUILDING THE FOURTH STREET BRIDGE BECAUSE THAT PROJECT RECEIVED AN AWARD. AND IT WAS RECEIVED BY OUR PARTNERS AT THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CATEGORY UNDER THE AMERICAN TRANSPORTATION AWARDS COMPETITION BY WESTERN REGION OF NATIONAL AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF STATE HIGHWAY AND TRANSPORTATION [03:10:04] OFFICIALS. SO THE FOURTH STREET BRIDGE THAT WE OPENED LAST YEAR WAS RECOGNIZED FOR IMPROVING SAFETY FOR DRIVERS, BICYCLES, BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS. AGAIN, IT'S A CONCRETE EXAMPLE OF SYNERGY AND COMMUNITY COLLABORATION PARTNERSHIP WITH CITY 8OT AND OUR OTHER TRANSPORTATION PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, TO CIRCLE BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, DOES SEEM LIKE THAT TO AND FROM, MAYBE WE NEED TO RETURN TO THE VERY END. I DON'T THINK WE NEED, I DON'T THINK WE NEED BOTH, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO SOME ISSUES WITH TWO FROM FOUR SAYING SOMETHING EARLY ON AND THEN HAVING A RESPONSE AVAILABLE FOR OTHERS LATER ON TO. I THINK THERE'S SOME CONCERNS ON THAT REGARD. SO IF WE COULD SAVE IT ALL UP FOR ONE BOUT, IF YOU'D PREFER THAT AT THE END, THAT'S GREAT. IF YOU'D PREFER IT AT THE BEGINNING, THEN THAT'S GREAT TOO. BUT I REALLY FEEL WE SHOULD JUST HAVE ONE. YEAH, AND SOMETIMES IT'S NICE TO HAVE THAT FINAL ENDING THING, I FEEL LIKE, TOO, TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF WRAP UP OUR THOUGHTS AND OUR IDEAS. SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. WE JUST REVERT TO THE OLD, OLD WAY. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI? WITH THESE LIAISON REPORTS IN YOUR MIND STATE AT THE BEGINNING, THEN. THE LIAISON REPORTS COULD STAY AT THE BEGINNING. OK, I CAN GO WITH THAT. THANK YOU. AND THEN WE CAN END BECAUSE THOSE ALSO COULD BE RELATED TO SOME OF THE TOPICS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE DAY. SO, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO EVERYONE? OK. AWESOME. WELL, ANY OTHER THINGS FROM THE CITY MANAGER? HOUSEKEEPING? NO, NOT ON MY OWN, THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, OUR MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.