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ALL RIGHT.WELL, THE VIP IS HERE, SO WE WILL START UP.
[1. CALL TO ORDER NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this regular meeting, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]
THIS IS OUR OCTOBER 19, 2021 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING CALLING TO ORDER JUST AS NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LEGAL ADVICE AND DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THE AGENDIZED ITEMS. ROLL CALL, PLEASE.ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE? WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND IF YOU CAN? .
THINK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER AND COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN, WOULD YOU READ OUR MISSION STATEMENT, PLEASE? I'D BE HAPPY TO.
THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.
MAYOR, IF I COULD, PLEASE NOTE, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI HAS JOINED US, HE IS CONNECTED VIRTUALLY.
[4. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION Public Participation enables the public to address the Council about an item that is not on the agenda. Comments relating to items that are on the agenda will be taken at the time that the item is discussed. If you wish to address the Council at tonight's meeting, please complete a comment card and submit it to the recording clerk as soon as possible. Your name will be called when it is your turn to speak. You may address the Council up to three times throughout the meeting, including comments made during Public Participation. Please limit your remarks to three minutes per item to allow everyone an opportunity to speak. At the discretion of the Chair, ten or more persons present at the meeting and wishing to speak may appoint a representative who may have no more than fifteen minutes to speak. ]
WE'RE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PARTICIPANTS HERE.
MS. DEB HARRIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP? I KIND OF DO THIS SO I CAN NOT FOG MY GLASSES UP IF THAT'S OK.
WE'D PREFER IF YOU KEPT IT ON.
YEAH, I'LL TAKE MY GLASSES OFF AND HOPEFULLY I'LL BE ABLE TO READ.
OK, SO DEBORAH HARRIS 25 WEST OAK CREEK TRAIL.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TALKING ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTHSIDE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
JUST FIRST OF ALL, WANT TO HOPE THAT YOU'RE ALL WELL AND I SEE THAT YOU'RE ALL HERE, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU ARE.
ALSO JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE SOUTHSIDE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION BOARD MEETS ON THURSDAY AT SIX P.M.
AT THE MURDOCK COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE ARE ABLE TO SOCIAL DISTANCE.
CDC GUIDELINES WILL BE IN PLACE AND WE WANT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CITY NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING GREEK LIFE ON CAMPUS AND THE FONTAINE STREET PARTY THAT WAS HELD ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER.
AND WE HAVE SOME SPECIFIC CONCERNS, AND WE ALSO WANT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE THERE, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE TO ANNOUNCE THOSE THINGS.
AND SO OUR CONCERN IS, IS THAT WE'RE PAST THE STAGE OF ASKING NOW WE'RE DEMANDING THAT THE CITY DOES SOMETHING ABOUT ISSUES WITH PARTYING AND CITY ORDINANCES RELATED TO THAT, AND ESPECIALLY IN COMMUNITIES LIKE LA PLAZA, SOUTH SIDE AND SUNNY SIDE.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME LATER, AND I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO THIS IS YOUR INVITATION TO THAT MEETING? THANK YOU.
MR. MCCARTHY, BECAUSE IT'S PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO.
I'M GOING TO JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT ANYWAY.
COULD YOU REPEAT? COULD YOU REPEAT THE TIME AND THE DATE? AND IT'S AT THE MURDOCH CENTER? YEAH.
IS THAT THE MURDOCH COMMUNITY CENTER 203 EAST BRENNAN AVENUE? IT'S AT 6:00 P.M.
ANOTHER PUBLIC PARTICIPANT, JENNA WELDON.
MAYOR DEASY, I'M GONNA NEED TO PULL UP A PRESENTATION REAL QUICK.
SO I'M JENNA WELDON OF THE BEAUTIFICATION, ARTS AND SCIENCES PROGRAM.
MY COMMENTS ARE SHOUT OUT FOR THE FIRST OF THE 2021 TRAFFIC SIGNAL CABINET ART REPS.
IT IS ENTITLED KULILA THE ARTIST IS DANA KAMBERG, AND THE INSTALLATION WILL OCCUR IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
THE LOCATION IS THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BUTLER AVENUE AND BEAVER STREET.
BECAUSE OF THE HIGH PROFILE OF THIS CORNER WE TOOK SOME EXTRA STEPS.
WE INCLUDED A COUNCIL MEMBER ON THE SELECTION PANEL AND AFTER THEIR RECOMMENDATION,
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IN ADDITION TO BPAC, WE ALSO TOOK THE DESIGN TO THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION FOR ADDITIONAL OUTREACH.THIS IS WHAT WILL BE ON THE FRONT OF THE TWO CABINETS THAT IS FACING THE INTERSECTION.
THE ARTIST TOOK HER INSPIRATION FROM AN ALI ACKERMANN POEM CALLED KULILA SORRY, I KEEP TRIPPING OVER THAT, WHICH ADDRESSES UNSPOKEN HISTORIES.
THE ARTIST, IN ADDITION TO WORKING AS AN INSTRUCTION ASSISTANT AT THE FLAGSTAFF HIGH SCHOOL, IS A GRADUATE STUDENT OF INTERDISCIPLINARY ART, WHICH INVESTIGATES REPRESENTATION PLUS COMMUNITY ACTION THROUGH ARTISTIC MEANS.
THIS IS THE BACKSIDE OF THE CABINETS.
THROUGH AN OVERHEARD CONVERSATION AT A BUS STOP, THE ARTIST, WHO HAS LIVED HERE FOR A MERE SIX YEARS, REALIZED THAT SHE DID NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE VARIETY OF HISTORIES THAT MAKE UP THIS INCREDIBLE CITY.
SPECIFICALLY, THE CONVERSATION SHE OVERHEARD ADDRESS THE LACK OF REMEMBRANCE OF BLACK HISTORY IN THE CITY AND THEIR RICH CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE LUMBER INDUSTRY.
THUS, HER ART PAYS HOMAGE TO THIS WORK.
AS IT IS, AS STATED ON THE SIDE PANELS OF THE ARTWORK, A HISTORY WORTH KNOWING AND A STORY WORTH TELLING.
WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON AN ADDITION TO THE ARTWORK WITH THE ARIZONA HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
WE HOPE TO GATHER PARTICULARS OF THIS HISTORY ON A WEBSITE PAGE HOSTED BY THE SOCIETY TO WHICH PEOPLE CAN LINK THROUGH A QR CODE STICKER TO BE ADDED LATER THIS YEAR.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND ATTENTION.
THE NEXT PUBLIC PARTICIPANT IS LENA WHELAN.
I AM SO HAPPY TO BE HERE, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AND EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THE PROCLAMATION FOR INDIGENOUS DAY TWO WEEKS AGO.
AND WITH THAT, WE REFLECT OUR RESPECT, THE RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATION.
AND WE DID IT, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR AGASSIZ ROAD THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD URGE THE COUNCIL CHANGE IT TO THE W.C.
RILES AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
SO IN THE PROCLAMATION OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY I AM AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND ALSO AS ICF MEMBER [INAUDIBLE] LIKE.
FEEL THAT WE STILL HAVE COLUMBUS AVENUE IN OUR CITY.
AND THE THING THAT TO REFLECT THAT WE RESPECT THE NATIVE PEOPLE.
WE REALLY WELL, I PERSONALLY, BECAUSE I DON'T REPRESENT ANYBODY SO LIKE I REALLY PROPOSE TO HAVE THAT CHANGE.
I KNOW THAT'S ALREADY IN DISCUSSION FOR A LONG TIME TO CHANGE THAT.
AND I PROPOSE TO HAVE IT TO BECOME LORI PIESTEWA AVENUE IF THAT IS IN PHOENIX, THAT'S PIESTEWA PEAK.
HOW COULD WE NOT HAVE IT HERE.
SO THAT I REALLY HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED IN YOUR DELIBERATION, AND WE.
I THINK WE ALREADY HAD DISCUSSION IN PREVIOUS ONE.
SO I REALLY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THAT THE LAST PUBLIC PARTICIPANT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM? YES, MAYOR.
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS]
WE'RE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETING THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE COUNCIL REGULAR MEETINGS OF FEBRUARY 4TH, 2020, DECEMBER 16TH 2020 THE RETREAT OF DECEMBER 16TH 2020.THE BUDGET RETREAT OF DECEMBER 17TH 2020.
SPECIAL WORK SESSION OF AUGUST 17TH 2021.
SPECIAL MEETING EXECUTIVE SESSION OF AUGUST 24TH SPECIAL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 7, 2021 OF SEPTEMBER 14TH 2021.
THE EXECUTIVE SESSION OF SEPTEMBER 14TH 2021.
SPECIAL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 21, 2021.
SPECIAL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 28TH 2021 AND SPECIAL MEETING OF OCTOBER 5TH 2021.
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AND I'LL JUST SAY I DID CUT OUT LIKE HALF OF THOSE WORDS JUST TO GET THE DATES.[LAUGHTER] YES, LET'S MOTION IT.
I MOVED TO APPROVE BRIEFLY ITEM 5A.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY SECONDED BY MYSELF ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WE ARE DOWN TO THE CITY MANAGER REPORT.
[6. CITY MANAGER REPORT]
CITY MANAGER AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX.THIS REPORT, AS IT DOES ONCE A MONTH, TOUCHES ON SOME WORK ANNIVERSARIES.
I WILL MENTION A FEW OF THEM BRIEFLY AND THEN ASK THAT WE SINGLE OUT A FEW EMPLOYEES WHO DESERVE SPECIAL RECOGNITION BECAUSE OF THEIR TENURE.
WE ARE CELEBRATING WORK ANNIVERSARIES IN THE FIVE YEAR CATEGORY FOR POLICE OFFICER CODY ROBERTS, COURT JUDICIAL SPECIALIST ONE SASHA ASHLEY.
IN THE 10 YEAR CATEGORY, WE HAVE EMRY PENSINGER WITH PUBLIC WORKS, HE'S A SUPERVISOR.
AND IN THE 15 YEAR CATEGORY, WE HAVE JENNIFER SCHABER, CREATIVE SERVICES SPECIALIST, AND KATIE BROWN, FIRE ENGINEER PARAMEDIC, ALSO TIM HARRINGTON, WATER SERVICES MANAGER.
IN THE 20 YEAR CATEGORY, WE HAVE CHRISTINE CAMERON, OUR PROJECT MANAGER SENIOR, AND I THINK WE'LL BE HEARING FROM HER TODAY.
ALSO BENJAMIN JAMES, SOLID WASTE LEADWORKER.
THE THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING SPECIAL ATTENTION TO INCLUDE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF ERIK CAPUTO.
ERIK CAPUTO IS ONE OF OUR THOUGHTFUL LEADERS AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, HE JUST COMPLETED A TWO WEEK DEPUTY CHIEF SHADOW PROGRAM, DEMONSTRATING HIS COMMITMENT TO THE FUTURE LEADERSHIP OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE GREATER FLAGSTAFF REGION.
HIS PARTICIPATION IN THE HONOR GUARD HAS BEEN AN INSTRUMENTAL PART OF OUR ANNUAL SEPTEMBER 11 COMMITMENT TO NEVER FORGET.
WE'VE ENJOYED HAVING ERIK IN THE SHADOW PROGRAM AT THE PUZZLE PALACE, AND HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING BACK TO A SHIFT.
SO WE THANK HIM FOR HIS AMAZING SERVICE TO THE ORGANIZATION AND TO THE COMMUNITY.
I DON'T KNOW OF FIRE BATTALION CHIEF IF YOU'RE WITH US, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO POP UP ON THE SCREEN AND SAY A QUICK HELLO? THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
OK, NEXT AND CONGRATULATIONS TO CHIEF CAPUTO.
NEXT, WE HAVE RYAN DARR, WHO'S SERVING AS AN INTERIM DEPUTY CHIEF AND IS JUST BACK FROM HIS HOLIDAY, SO I THINK HE IS GOING TO BE JOINING US.
RYAN WAS HIRED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN OCTOBER OF 1996, COMPLETED A CRIMINAL JUSTICE DEGREE AT NAU WHILE FINISHING UP AN INTERNSHIP PRIOR TO HIS APPOINTMENT.
AFTER THE ACADEMY, RYAN SPENT SEVERAL YEARS IN PATROL AND SERVED AS A FIELD TRAINING OFFICER.
A NUMBER OF OTHER CREDENTIALS THAT ARE LISTED.
HE OVERSEES OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION SECTION AND IS SERVING AS THE ACTING DEPUTY CHIEF, AS I MENTIONED.
ADDITIONALLY, HE SERVES ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD FOR THE VICTIM WITNESS SERVICES.
SILENT WITNESSES BOARD DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FATALITY REVIEW BOARD, AND HE LEADS OUR HOSTAGE NEGOTIATIONS TEAM AND OTHER CREDENTIALS, AS YOU SEE.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF INTERIM DEPUTY CHIE.
RYAN DARR IS WITH US, BUT IF SO, RYAN, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU AS WELL.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU.
AND THE BEST PART OF BEING HERE FOR 25 YEARS IS YOU USUALLY OUTLAST ALL YOUR CRITICS.
[LAUGHTER] I DON'T THINK I CAN TOP THAT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND I KNOW YOU TOOK EXTRA MEASURE TO DO SO BECAUSE YOU JUST RETURNED FROM CALIFORNIA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
FINALLY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE ARE CELEBRATING A THIRTY ONE YEAR WORK ANNIVERSARY.
WITH MARTHA VILLALOBOS, WHO SERVES AS LIBRARY SPECIALIST.
SHE FIRST CAME TO THE CITY ORGANIZATION ON OCTOBER 16TH, 1990.
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THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS ARE WHAT MARTHA'S COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ABOUT THEIR WONDERFUL COWORKER.MARTHA HAS SHOWN VERSATILITY AND ADAPTATION TO MEET MANY CHALLENGES OVER THE COURSE OF HER 31 YEARS AT THE COUNTY CORRECTIONAL FACILITY LIBRARY.
MARTHA IS COMMITTED TO HER WORK AND IS RESOURCEFUL IN CARRYING OUT HER DAILY DUTIES FOLLOWING THE PROTOCOLS.
AS THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF EMPLOYEE, SHE WORKS AS A TEAM PLAYER WITH HER COUNTERPART, SHARYN TAFOYA, AT THE JAIL LIBRARY.
TOGETHER, THEY MAKE SELECTIONS FOR LIBRARY MATERIALS WHILE WEEDING OUT OUTDATED AND DAMAGED MATERIALS.
THEY ALSO ENSURE THAT ACQUISITIONS ARE PROVIDED TO INMATES IN A TIMELY MANNER.
MARTHA IS COURTEOUS, PATIENT AND RESPECTFUL WITH BOTH INMATES AND PRISON AUTHORITIES.
SHE'S BILINGUAL WITH THE FLUENCY IN THE SPANISH LANGUAGE, WHICH IS HELPFUL.
WHERE IN TRANSLATIONS ARE REQUESTED AMONG SPANISH SPEAKING INMATES INVOLVING ACCESS TO THE LIBRARY AND MATERIALS.
MARTHA RESOLVES MATTERS WITH COOL AND CALM DEMEANOR AND IS ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP WITH TASKS THAT ARISE, INCLUDING SORTING OUT MATERIALS COMING BACK FROM THE INMATES.
DURING THE PANDEMIC, SHE HAS REALLOCATED A PORTION OF HER TIME TO WORK AT THE EAST FLAGSTAFF LIBRARY, HELPING WITH STAFF WITH THE CURBSIDE HOLDS.
THIS HAS BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.
THIS HAS BEEN FORTUITOUS FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY CAN RECEIVE LIBRARY MATERIALS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
MARTHA HAS SHOWN DEDICATION, DEVOTION AND PATIENCE WHILE PROVIDING LIBRARY MATERIALS TO INMATES ALWAYS MAINTAINING HER COMPOSURE AND PROFESSIONALISM.
FROM WILLIAM ASCARZA, AND I HOPE I PRONOUNCE THAT NAME CORRECTLY.
MARTHA IS AN INVALUABLE ASSET TO OUR ORGANIZATION, PERFORMING LIBRARY DUTIES TO AN INMATE POPULATION IN NEED.
MARTHA, YOU MAKE YOUR COLLEAGUES PROUD AND YOU SHINE UPON THIS ORGANIZATION IN THE MOST POSITIVE WAY.
WE HOPE THAT YOU KEEP SMILING AND WE THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF TEAM FLAGSTAFF.
MARTHA, I'M NOT SURE IF MARTHA IS WITH US, BUT IF SO, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE HER POP UP ON THE SCREEN AND SHARE A COMMENT OR TWO.
GOOD AFTERNOON, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME AND SPENDING TIME WITH US AT THE COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE ARE HONORING YOU, MARTHA, AND WE'D LOVE TO HEAR ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SHARE.
I JUST GOT FINISHED READING AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT THE VERY GOOD THINGS THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND ALL I CAN SAY IS THIRTY ONE YEARS DOESN'T SEEM THAT LONG.
AND I SPEND THAT ALL AT THE JAIL AND I KNOW I'M VERY PROUD OF WHAT I DO.
I LOVE HELPING PEOPLE AND I HOPE I AM MAKING A DIFFERENCE WITH THE INMATES.
I ASSURE YOU THAT YOU ARE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND THANKS FOR BEING WITH US AND SHARING YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR FACE WITH US THIS AFTERNOON.
THAT CONCLUDES THE WORK ANNIVERSARIES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER THING THAT WE'D LIKE TO CALL OUT FOR SOME SPECIFIC DISCUSSION, AND THAT CONCERNS THE MUNICIPAL COURT, SPECIFICALLY THE COURTHOUSE, THE NEW COURTHOUSE.
AND I WILL NOT RECITE EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE MANAGER'S REPORT.
BUT I WILL SUMMARIZE BY NOTING THAT THE NEW FLAGSTAFF MUNICIPAL COURT, WHICH IS A THREE STORY, FORTY THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WHICH CAME AT A COST JUST SOUTH OF $20 MILLION DOLLARS, IS A GREEN GLOBES CERTIFIED FACILITY.
THE COURTHOUSE REPLACED A PAIR OF OBSOLETE, FUNCTIONALLY INADEQUATE BUILDINGS, WHICH, BY THE WAY, ARE BEING DEMOED AT THIS MOMENT.
SERVING AS DESIGN BUILD CONTRACTOR KINNEY CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, WHICH WE KNOW AS KCS, WORKED COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND THE ARCHITECT CGL COMPANIES.
DESIGN ENGINEERING SUPPORT WAS PROVIDED BY ENERGY SYSTEMS DESIGN INC, CARUSO TURLEY SCOTT CTS AND SHEPARD WESNITZER.
A LOT OF NAMES THERE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ACCOLADES TO GO AROUND HERE.
THE COURTHOUSE IS THE RECIPIENT OF TWO PRESTIGIOUS AWARDS ARCHITECTURAL AWARDS,
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AND THEY ARE NOTED AND WE HAVE PICTURES OF THEM IN THE MANAGER'S REPORT.IN A SECOND I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM JESSICA CORTES, OUR COURT ADMINISTRATOR, AND THERE'S A QUOTE FROM HER IN THE REPORT.
AND POSSIBLY TO HEAR FROM CHRISTINE CAMERON, WHO HELPED OVERSEE THIS PROJECT.
OF COURSE, WE EXTEND OUR PROPS TO KINNEY CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AND TO THE ENTIRE TEAM, AS I JUST NOTED.
JESSICA, ARE YOU WITH US? YES, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
GREG, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GIVING US A FEW MINUTES TO SPEAK ABOUT THE AWARDS.
AS NOTED IN GREG'S REPORT, THE FLAGSTAFF MUNICIPAL COURT HOUSE RECEIVED THE TWO AWARDS FROM THE ARIZONA MASONRY COUNCIL.
THE FIRST WAS A CITATION AWARD AND THAT'S FOR NONRESIDENTIAL, AND THE SECOND AWARD WAS THE CRAFTSMAN AWARD, ALSO NONRESIDENTIAL.
THE AWARD PROGRAM RECOGNIZES OUTSTANDING MASONRY PROJECTS FEATURING BRICK BLOCK AND STONE, AND THE PROJECT TEAM REALLY APPRECIATES RECOGNITION BY THE ARIZONA MASONRY COUNCIL FOR THE COURTHOUSE PROJECT.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOW TURN IT OVER TO CHRISTINE CAMERON, OUR PROJECT MANAGER.
YEAH, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY WITH HOW IT TURNED OUT, AND WE'RE SO PROUD TO GIVE THIS FACILITY TO THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, THE EXTERIOR FINISHES ARE IN LARGE PART TO THE WORK OF THE DESIGN BUILD TEAM, WHICH WAS GREG MENTIONED OR CITY MANAGER MENTIONED CGL KCS AND THE COURT AND PROSECUTOR STAFF.
I MEAN, THEY TOOK TIME TO GO AND LOOK THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND FOR EXAMPLES OF ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN THAT THAT REALLY COMPLEMENTED THE EXISTING SURROUNDINGS AND PULL ORIGINAL MATERIALS INTO THE DESIGN LIKE THE RED BRICK, THE ACTUAL COLOR OF THE GROUT AND THE RED SANDSTONE.
IT'S BEEN SUPPORTED BY THE PUBLIC, AND WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON ON HOW IT IS NOW THE COMPLETED PROJECT.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL, I THOUGHT THAT YOU AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
ANY COMMENTS OTHERWISE I CAN CONCLUDE MY REPORT HERE IN JUST A SECOND.
THERE'S A FEW MISCELLANEOUS UPDATES, I WILL NOT BE LABOR.
PLEASE SPEND SOME TIME GOING THROUGH THAT AT YOUR LEISURE.
I DO WANT TO SINGLE ONE THING OUT, I WILL NOT TALK ABOUT IT AT LENGTH IS THE PRECURSOR TO, I THINK, A WORK SESSION THAT WILL BE COMING YOUR WAY IN THE WEEKS AHEAD.
WE HAD A NICE MEETING WITH REPS FROM THE USFS.
AND OUR FIRE WATER PROTECTION PROGRAM MANAGER, NEIL CHAPMAN, THAT'S A MOUTHFUL, TO DISCUSS THE 4FRI AND RELATED TOPICS.
THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME GOOD OUTCOMES TO SHOW FOR THAT MEETING.
THEY ARE REFERENCED IN MY REPORT AND THERE'S A LINK THERE THAT WILL GIVE YOU SOME GOOD, HELPFUL INFORMATION.
I INVITE YOU TO READ THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN ARTICULATED CONCERN ABOUT THE CANCELATION OF THAT PROGRAM, BUT FRANKLY, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD NEWS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THAT.
BUT AGAIN, WITHOUT BELABORING, I WOULD INVITE YOU TO GIVE IT A READ AND INFORM YOURSELVES WHEN YOU'RE READY ON THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC.
AND THEN YOU CAN EXPECT AN UPDATE REGARDING OUR FWPP, THE WATERSHED PROTECTION PROGRAM PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE QUEUE NOW AND ON THE NEAR HORIZON.
AND WE WILL TOUCH ON THE 4FRI MATTER AS WELL, AND YOU COULD EXPECT THAT IN THE WEEKS AHEAD, ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR A THOROUGH REPORT, AS USUAL.
THE CITY MANAGER THAT BRINGS US DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, OUR COUNCIL
[7. COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS]
LIAISON REPORTS, AND I WILL GO AROUND.I THINK I DID THIS SIDE OF THE ROOM LAST TIME.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS ANY LIAISON REPORTS.
LAST WEEK I ATTENDED A TWO DAY GATHERING OF BOARDS AND DIRECTORS OF 10 METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS AND COUNCILS OF GOVERNMENTS REPRESENTING METROPOLITAN GREATER FLAGSTAFF, THE RURAL TRANSPORTATION ADVOCACY COUNCIL STRATEGIC ADVANCE, THAT WAS THE FIRST DAY AND THE SECOND DAY WAS DEDICATED TO RURAL TRANSPORTATION SUMMIT, WHERE EACH MPO AND CARB MADE A STRONG CASE OF OUR RESPECTIVE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL STATE FUNDING FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION
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PROJECTS.METRO PLAN SUBMITTED THE PROJECT TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR LONE TREE CORRIDOR, SO THE ADVOCACY IS TOWARD PUTTING TOGETHER AND SUBMITTING A PROPOSED BILL AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE, ASKING A ONE TIME FUNDING FOR 50 MILLION.
AND METRO PLAN WILL RECEIVE TWO POINT SIX MILLION FOR THE LONE TREE PROJECT.
WE ARE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH MANY LEGISLATORS, SPECIFICALLY THE SENATE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE SENATOR PACE AND THE HOUSE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE CHAIR REPRESENTATIVE FRANK CARROLL AND HOUSE MAJORITY WHIP LEO BIASIUCCI.
ALSO INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THE SUMMIT HEARD PRESENTATION FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATOR FOR ARIZONA, THE STATE ENGINEER [INAUDIBLE] HAMMETT, AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM MANY FEDERAL ORGANIZATIONS.
DISCUSSING FUTURE OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO SEEK GRANT FUNDING AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL FOR TRANSPORTATION, FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY, FOR RESILIENCY.
AND TRANSPORTATION EMERGENCY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PRIORITY LIST, I HAVE A COPY HERE AND I WOULD LOVE TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
I THINK AND YESTERDAY, AS THE COUNCIL PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION LIAISON, I ATTENDED ALONG PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE COMMISSION MEETING.
THERE WERE A LOT OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ADVOCATING FOR PICKLEBALL COURTS IN TOWN, AND STAFF HAD PROVIDED AN OVERVIEW ON A POTENTIAL OPTION IN TERMS OF INNOVATION, COLLABORATIVE AND GRANTS, AND THAT CONVERSION WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE.
NOTING THAT OUR PARKS AND REC STAFF PROS NOW PROS HAVE REPURPOSED THE TENNIS COURTS IN PONDEROSA PARK AND HAS NOW TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS.
ALSO, THE PARKS AND RECREATION IS ENGAGING THE PUBLIC FOR THE THORPE PARK ANNEX, WHICH WILL START NEXT MONTH.
COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I AM IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, AT THE INTERNATIONAL DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE, AND I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO GIVING YOU AN UPDATE ON THE WONDERFUL THINGS I LEARN NEXT WEEK.
I ATTENDED THE STATE TRANSPORTATION BOARD LAST FRIDAY VIRTUALLY, AND I MADE A COMMENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND ALSO AS THE CHAIR OF THE METRO PLAN.
AND THE COMMENT I MADE HAD TO DO WITH THE THING THAT MS. SALAS JUST TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE ARTAC PROPOSAL TO GET SOME FUNDING FOR ALL AROUND THE STATE.
BUT OF PARTICULAR INTEREST TO US IS FOR THE LONE TREE CORRIDOR.
SO I DID MAKE THAT COMMENT AND DURING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
THE OTHER THING I'LL MENTION IS THAT I ATTENDED A PANEL DISCUSSION.
I WAS A PANEL MEMBER AT THE FLAGSTAFF LEADERSHIP TRAINING AND STACY FOBAR, OUR INTREPID ASSISTANT CITY CLERK, WAS KIND OF OVERSEEING THAT EVENT AND THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME, STACY.
WE HAD A PRETTY LIVELY DISCUSSION WITH QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS GOING BACK AND FORTH.
AND THEN THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION IS I DID ATTEND THE PEDESTRIAN COMMITTEE MEETING, WHICH IS A SUBGROUP OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS AND OTHER RELATED THINGS.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
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YEAH, EARLIER TODAY, I WAS IN THE DIVERSITY AWARENESS COMMISSION, WHERE WE DISCUSSED THE FAIR ITEM ON INCLUSIVE BATHROOMS SIGNS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MOVE THAT FORWARD AND THEN ALSO THE PRESENTATION REGARDING CLIMATE RESILIENCY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE FROM THE GRADUATE STUDENTS FROM NAU WAS PRESENTED TO THE DIVERSITY AWARENESS COMMISSION, WHICH I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THEY CHOSE THAT FORMAT BECAUSE IT IS CLIMATE RESILIENCY AND IS INEXTRICABLY INTERTWINED WITH HISTORICAL SEGREGATION AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY HIT.SO IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER FORMS AND FORMATS THAT THAT PRESENTATION HAS BEEN PRESENTED.
THEN THAT THAT'S WHAT I GOT FOR THE LIAISON.
LAST WEEK, I HAD MY NORTHERN ARIZONA MUNICIPAL WATER USERS ASSOCIATION MEETING WITH OTHER MUNICIPAL WATER USERS ACROSS NORTHERN ARIZONA, AND THE REASON WHY I MENTIONED THIS IS I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO STAFF MEMBER AARON YOUNG, WHO GAVE A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION TO THE ENTIRE GROUP ABOUT CONSERVATION MEASURES THAT FLAGSTAFF HAS TAKEN AND JUST KIND OF A HISTORY OF SOME OF OUR WATER PROJECTS, AND IT WAS GOOD FOR ME TO HAVE THAT AS A REFRESHER, AND I LEARNED SOME NEW THINGS TOO.
ON THE HOUSING FRONT, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GATHERING PUBLIC COMMENT.
STAFF HAS PRESENTED TO [INAUDIBLE] TO THE NORTHERN ARIZONA ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS, HAD A VIRTUAL MEETING WITH CITY OF FLAGSTAFF COMMISSIONERS TODAY WAS FRIENDS OF FLAGSTAFF FUTURE.
NEXT UP IS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE COCONINO COUNTY CONTINUUM OF CARE.
THE NEXT PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETING IS OCTOBER 27TH, AND THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT THE PLAN.
ASK QUESTIONS, PROVIDE FEEDBACK, AND THERE'S AN ONLINE FORUM WHERE WE ARE ASKING YOU TO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GIVE YOUR INPUT ON THIS PLAN.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US TONIGHT? I DO.
LAST WEEK AND TODAY, I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE ATMP OPEN HOUSES THAT OCCURRED, AND FOR THOSE THAT HAVEN'T ATTENDED ONE, THERE IS ONE MORE.
I BELIEVE NEXT WEDNESDAY, FROM FOUR TO SIX P.M., STAFF DO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THAT WILL BE, I BELIEVE, THE LAST ONE BEFORE IT THEN CONTINUES ON ITS JOURNEY THROUGH ITS PUBLIC REVIEW.
BUT GREAT CONVERSATIONS BEING HAD AND JUST APPRECIATION THE STAFF WHO ARE PUTTING THAT ON.
LAST WEEK, A GROUP OF US WERE ABLE TO TRAVEL DOWN TO VISIT THE MESA, ARIZONA, TEMPLE OF THE OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, AND JUST HAD A WONDERFUL TIME IN THAT EXPERIENCE AND APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO HELPED TO SET THAT UP.
AND THEN LAST FRIDAY, I WAS ABLE TO DO A RIDE ALONG AT OUR FIRE STATION STATION THREE WITH CAPTAIN JOE TOTH, ENGINEER WILL GIANNOLA, FIREFIGHTER JAKE [INAUDIBLE], FIREFIGHTER RILEY REESE AND ENGINEER JASON [INAUDIBLE], AND JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL THOSE INDIVIDUALS FOR HOSTING ME FOR 12 HOURS AND GETTING A REAL INSIDE LOOK AT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY DEAL WITH DAY IN, DAY OUT AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO.
SO THAT WAS A REAL GREAT, INSIGHTFUL EXPERIENCE.
SO THANK YOU TO CHIEF AND SETH WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR HELPING US SET THAT UP.
AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I THERE WAS AN INDIGENOUS COMMISSION LAST WEEK AND I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAD AND SEEING HOW THAT IMPACTS OUR FUTURE DISCUSSIONS AND DECISIONS.
SO THANK YOU TO THE INDIGENOUS COMMISSION.
I WAS OUT OF STATE ON A PERSONAL TRIP THIS PAST WEEK.
THAT BRINGS US THEN DOWN TO OUR COVID 19 UPDATE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
[8. COVID-19 UPDATE]
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M BRINGING UP MY PRESENTATION.[00:35:04]
CAN YOU SEE THAT OK? YES.SO FOR THIS EVENING, I HAVE THE COVID 19 UPDATE.
ROSE TOEHE IS OUT OF TOWN THIS WEEK, SO I WILL BE COVERING THE DATA FROM COCONINO COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AS WELL AS NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTH CARE, IN ADDITION TO THE NAVAJO NATION AND HOPI TRIBE STATISTICS, AND THEN PROVIDING A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE INDIGENOUS NATIONS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING BOTH FOR NAVAJO AND HOPI TRIBES.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR NUMBER OF WEEKLY CASES, WE'RE SEEING THAT WE ARE ON THE SECOND WEEK OF A DOWNWARD TREND, STARTING AT FOUR HUNDRED AND FIVE CASES WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 25TH AND ENDING WITH 353 NEW CASES THIS MOST RECENT WEEK ON OCTOBER 9TH.
LOOKING AT OUR COVID 19 CASES BY GEOGRAPHIC AREA, THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS STILL THE HIGHEST FOR A NUMBER OF NEW CASES, FOLLOWED BY OUR TRIBAL COMMUNITIES.
THE HOSPITALIZATION FOR COCONINO COUNTY RESIDENTS HAS SEEN KIND OF AN UP AND DOWN TICK OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, CERTAINLY SEEING OUR LOWEST NUMBER THIS WEEK OF OCTOBER 9TH THAT WE'VE SEEN IN SOME TIME.
AND OUR LARGEST AGE GROUP BEING HOSPITALIZED DUE TO COVID IS 20 TO 44.
LOOKING AT OUR COVID RELATED DEATHS, THERE HAVE BEEN ZERO REPORTED FOR THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 9TH.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, SOMETIMES THERE CAN BE A FEW WEEK DELAY IN THIS DATA, SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THIS TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS A FEW WEEKS DOWN THE LINE.
FOR INSTANCE, THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 25TH ORIGINALLY HAD REPORTED THAT THERE WERE TWO COVID RELATED DEATHS, AND WE NOW HAVE THREE.
NO CHANGES YET REPORTED FOR THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 2ND.
LOOKING AT OUR COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION RATE, WE CONTINUE TO BE IN HIGH OVERALL.
THAT'S REALLY BEING DRIVEN BY THE NUMBER OF NEW CASES PER 100,000, WHICH IS AT TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE POINT FIVE, AS WELL AS OUR PERCENT OF POSITIVITY IS IN OUR MODERATE CATEGORY AT 6.8 PERCENT, WHICH IS AN INCREASE A SLIGHT INCREASE FROM THE TWO WEEKS PRIOR AT 6.6 PERCENT.
AND THEN OUR PERCENTAGE OF COVID LIKE ILLNESS HAS DECLINED OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS, FROM SEVEN PERCENT TO THE SIX POINT FOUR PERCENT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU.
OUR NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE IN COCONINO COUNTY THAT ARE VACCINATED HAS INCREASED SLIGHTLY, BUT WE ARE SEEING A LOWER NUMBER OF VACCINES BEING PROVIDED EACH WEEK.
TWO WEEKS AGO, WE HAD 59.1 PERCENT OF OUR COMMUNITY VACCINATED AND WE ARE NOW AT 59.7 PERCENT VACCINATION.
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN VACCINATED OR HAS A FRIEND OR A FAMILY MEMBER WHO HAVEN'T BEEN VACCINATED, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO VISIT THE COCONINO COUNTY WEBSITE.
THEY KEEP THAT UP TO DATE WITH THE VARIOUS LOCATIONS THAT YOU CAN RECEIVE A COVID VACCINE.
LOOKING AT OUR VARIANTS, YOU WILL SEE TWO NEW ONES, THE EPSILON, AS WELL AS THE MU.
THOSE ARE VARIANTS THAT ARE BEING MONITORED.
BUT STILL THE ONLY VARIANT OF CONCERN IS OUR DELTA VARIANT.
OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SAMPLES SHOWING A DELTA VARIANT FROM 796 TO THE 1,110 ON THE SCREEN.
LOOKING AT THE NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTH CARE HOSPITAL CENSUS, WE HAVE 33 POSITIVE CASES AND ZERO PENDING CASES.
THEY ARE SHOWING CAPACITY OF 224 HOSPITAL BEDS OUT OF THEIR TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY EIGHT THAT ARE LICENSED.
AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE CRITICAL CARE.
THEY HAVE 41 LICENSED BEDS AND THOSE ARE ALL AVAILABLE.
AND THAT WAS AS OF OCTOBER 15TH.
THE INDIGENOUS NATIONS DATA FOR THE NAVAJO NATION AS OF OCTOBER 14TH, THE NAVAJO NATION REPORTED FOR THE 13 DAY PERIOD SINCE OUR LAST REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU ON OCTOBER 1ST THAT THERE'S BEEN 2405 NEW CONFIRMED COVID CASES FOR NAVAJO NATION.
AND THERE HAS ALSO BEEN AN INCREASE IN OUR COVID RELATED DEATHS OF 16 OVER THIS 13 DAY PERIOD.
IN THE PAST 20 DAYS, THE HOPI TRIBE HAS SEEN 400 EXCUSE ME, 45 NEW CASES,
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GOSH, NOT 400, THAT WOULD BE HORRIBLE, BUT 45 NEW CASES OVER THE LAST 20 DAYS.NAVAJO NATION, THEIR UPDATES INCLUDE THE PUBLIC EMERGENCY ORDERS ARE GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE GATHERING LIMITATIONS IN PLACE.
INDIVIDUALS MUST WEAR A MASK WHILE IN PUBLIC AND THE [INAUDIBLE] IN SCHOOLS ARE STILL COMPLYING WITH THE ORANGE STATUS OF THEIR PLAN.
THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE ARPA FISCAL RECOVERY FUND ALLOCATIONS, WHICH EQUALED 389 MILLION DOLLARS.
OF INTEREST THERE'S 185 MILLION THAT'S CONNECTING HOMES TO ELECTRICITY, SEPTIC AND WATER, AS WELL AS BROADBAND.
THE LAST AND MIDDLE MILES, $12 MILLION DOLLARS WILL BE GOING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, AND THIS WILL BE FOR COVID TESTING EMERGENCY FOOD ASSISTANCE TO HIGH RISK PATIENTS, MEDICAL TRANSPORT FOR COVID PATIENTS, MOBILE MEDICAL UNITS, AS WELL AS PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT.
THERE'S 31 MILLION THAT'S GOING TO THE DIVISION OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR ARTESIAN AND BUSINESS ECONOMIC RELIEF GRANTS TO NAVAJO NATION BUSINESSES.
THERE ARE SIX MILLION THAT'S GOING TO THEIR JUDICIAL BRANCH PROGRAMS AND COURTS, AND THIS IS TO ADDRESS BACKLOG AND TO FACILITATE COURT AND PROGRAM OPERATIONS.
EIGHT MILLION OF THE ARPA FUNDS WILL GO TO PURCHASE HEAVY EQUIPMENT FOR THE CHAPTERS.
THIS INCLUDES BACKHOES, VEHICLES, TRAILERS AND TRACTORS.
THERE'S $2 MILLION THAT'S BEEN SET ASIDE FOR BURIAL ASSISTANCE DUE TO COVID RELATED DEATHS, AND 145 MILLION HAS BEEN RETAINED FOR THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH PROGRAMS AND OFFICES TO IMPLEMENT PROGRAMING.
WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THEIR HEALTH ADVISORY, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THEY ARE NOW SHOWING 33 COMMUNITIES FOR COVID HEALTH ADVISORIES, THIS COMPARED TO 40 IN THE PREVIOUS REPORT, SO WE ARE SEEING A REDUCTION.
MOVING ON TO THE HOPI TRIBE, THEY DID ANNOUNCE THAT SENOM TRANSIT SERVICES RESUMED SCHEDULE BACK AT THE END OF AUGUST, AND THERE ARE TWO STOPS HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.
I'VE LISTED THE SPECIFICS OF WHEN THEY ARRIVE AND WHEN THEY DEPART DAILY.
ALSO INCLUDED IN THEIR UPDATE WAS THAT CUSTOMERS MUST WEAR A MASK AND PASS A TEMPERATURE CHECK TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE TRANSIT SERVICES.
MOVING ON, CONTINUING TO MESSAGE THE IMPORTANCE OF VACCINES FOR EVERYONE AGED JUST 12 OR OLDER, AS WELL AS WEARING MASKS AND WASHING FREQUENTLY OF HANDS.
AND THEN THE LAST PIECE IN THE HOPI TRIBE UPDATE WAS THAT THEY'RE IN THEIR THIRD PART OF PHASED REOPENING, WHICH MEANS THAT FACE MASKING IS REQUIRED INSIDE OF ALL PUBLIC BUILDINGS.
COMMON AREAS AND OUTDOOR LOCATIONS WHEN FOLKS ARE UNABLE TO DISTANCE.
EMPLOYERS MAY RESUME UNRESTRICTED STAFFING OF WORKSITES, AND LASTLY, BUSINESSES MUST BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND PROTECTIONS FOR STAFF.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING IN TODAY'S COVID UPDATE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
THANK YOU, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN.
THIS ISN'T SO MUCH A QUESTION FOR THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, BUT IT'S PROBABLY THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO BRING IT UP.
LAST WEEK DURING TWO FROM, I MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE IDEA OF ALLOWING PUBLIC SPEAKERS TO REMOVE THEIR MASK FOR THE THREE MINUTES DURING THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
I REMAIN COMMITTED TO PURSUING THIS.
I FEEL STRONGLY THAT THAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED, AND IT'S REASONABLE.
AND JUST WONDERING FOR AN UPDATE ON HOW WE DISCUSS THAT OR COME TO AN ARRANGEMENT ABOUT IT.
WE SAW JUST TODAY AND MS. DEB HARRIS WAS HOPING TO TAKE HER MASK OFF SO SHE COULD READ FROM HER PREPARED REMARKS WITHOUT HER GLASSES FOGGING UP, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PARTICULAR HEALTH RISK TO ONE INDIVIDUAL FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS BEING ABLE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES.
BOTH VISUALLY AS WELL AS WITH THEIR VOICE.
YEAH, I WILL JUST STATE THAT THAT'S A CAN OF WORMS. I DON'T CARE TO BE OPENING.
WE DO HAVE A RESTRICTIONS WITHIN THE CITY AND CITY FACILITIES RIGHT NOW BASED ON ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF OUR STAFF AND THE INDIVIDUALS
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WHO COME INTO THIS FACILITY IN GENERAL, AND I FEEL LIKE CREATING EXCEPTIONS IN THAT CASE IS GOING TO OPEN UP A LARGER DISCUSSION ON IF PEOPLE NEED TO BE WEARING THEM WHILE THEY'RE SITTING IN THE CHAIRS.SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A CAN OF WORMS. I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT WHEN THEY'RE AN INDIVIDUAL SPEAKING AT THE MIC, THEY HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THEIR FACES.
BUT ANYWAY, THIS IS MORE OF A PROCESS QUESTION, RATHER THAN TRYING TO GET INTO A DEBATE AT THE CURRENT TIME.
SO JUST CURIOUS ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED WITH THIS.
AND CITY MANAGER IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH THAT.
RESPECTFULLY, WE DID ADVANCE THE SUGGESTION.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT INTERNALLY AND WE DID POLL SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WE WERE JUST LACKING SUPPORT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT.
I WANT TO BE CAREFUL HERE AND NOTING IT WAS GIVEN CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, AND WE TOTALLY RESPECT THE INTENTIONS BEHIND IT, AS YOU HAVE ARTICULATED, IT IS VERY AWKWARD TO PRESENT .
IT'S VERY AWKWARD RIGHT NOW TO TALK WITH THE MASK ON.
IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE ALL YOU KNOW, HAD TO LIVE WITH OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
BUT THE OUTCOME OF ALL THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD COUNCIL MEMBERS IS TO NOT HAVE EXCEPTIONS.
ONE THING I WILL NOTE FOR YOU, AND IT'S PROBABLY A STATEMENT OF THE OBVIOUS IS WE ARE LIVE STREAMED, AND OF COURSE, OUR SPEAKERS ARE VIDEO STREAMED AS WELL, AND SO WE FELT IT WAS A GOOD AND CONSISTENT MESSAGING TO HAVE EVERYBODY WEAR A MASK, ESPECIALLY NOTING THAT WE'RE IN FRONT OF THE CAMERAS.
WELL, THANK YOU, I WAS NOT AWARE OF ANY OF THOSE INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS OR RECEIVED ANY UPDATE ABOUT HOW THAT WENT.
MAYBE WE CAN REVISIT THAT AS SOON AS REASONABLY PRUDENT.
AND I, OF COURSE, I'M VERY RESPECTFUL OF THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY.
WELL, IF IT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE NOW, WE DEFINITELY SHOULD REVISIT IT BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN AND MAYBE A MONTH FROM NOW WE CAN REVISIT IT.
THE OTHER THING IS A FOOTNOTE I'LL MENTION.
I MENTIONED BEFORE I WAS ON A PANEL DISCUSSION WHERE I WAS THE FLAGSTAFF LEADERSHIP TRAINING AND EVERYONE IN THAT ROOM HAD A MASK ON.
HOWEVER, THEY DID ALLOW THE FOUR PANELISTS, MYSELF AND THREE OTHER PEOPLE TO TAKE THEIR MASK OFF DURING THE DISCUSSION.
AND THEN AFTER THE DISCUSSION, WE PUT OUR MASKS BACK ON.
SO I THINK WE CAN BRING IT BACK.
WE'RE PROBABLY NOT READY TO DO IT YET, BUT WE'LL RECONSIDER IN A MONTH OR SO, I WOULD SUGGEST.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, COULD YOU PLEASE GO BACK TO THE SLIDE ON THE NAH HOSPITAL CENSUS? YES, THANK YOU.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THE CRITICAL CARE CAPACITY OF OUR HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW IS AT THE MAXIMUM.
THE BED CAPACITY IS MAXED OUT FOR THE LICENSING.
FORTY ONE OUT OF FORTY ONE BEDS.
OUR HOSPITALS NO LONGER REPORTING STAFFING LEVELS, WHICH HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST AT A CRITICAL SHORTAGE.
THOUGH YOU MAY FEEL THAT IT IS A GOOD THING I DO TOO, THE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN.
WE ARE STILL IN A CRISIS SITUATION FOR THE AMOUNT OF CAPACITY OUR HOSPITAL AND OUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS CAN DO RIGHT NOW IN THIS CITY.
AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, TOO, WE ARE ENTERING RESPIRATORY SEASON, WHICH MEANS THAT MORE PEOPLE WITH INFLUENZA A PERTUSSIS AND OTHER ISSUES WHEN THE HOSPITALS TEND TO BE SPIKING IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
SO I AM URGING EVERYONE TO CONTINUE WITH TAKING THE MITIGATION EFFORTS THAT WE ARE.
IT IS A VERY, VERY SERIOUS SITUATION WHEN WE ARE AT FULL BED CAPACITY IN OUR HOSPITAL.
SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THOSE NUMBERS WHILE WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS CHART IS THAT UNDER CRITICAL CARE IS THAT THERE ARE LICENSED FOR 41 CRITICAL CARE BEDS AND 41 OF THOSE ARE AVAILABLE AND NOT BEING USED.
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IS THAT CORRECT, SHANNON? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYOR DEASY'S UNDERSTANDING MAY BE DIFFERENT.WELL, COULD YOU MAYBE LOOK INTO THAT FOR OUR NEXT UPDATE AND ELABORATE ON THAT? THANK YOU.
JUST SO THAT WE'RE ALL SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE, SO TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU, YEAH, I WOULD LIKE THE CLARIFICATION, BUT THESE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN THE HIGHER THAT NUMBER OF THE BLUE BAR IS NOT THE AVAILABLE BEDS, THAT IS THE NUMBER OF CASES.
THERE'S NOT WE DON'T I MEAN, IT'S NOT ZEROED OUT, BUT THE HOSPITAL IS EMPTY ALL OF A SUDDEN.
SO YES, PLEASE PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION.
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE SEVERITY OF THE SITUATION.
I KNOW WE'RE ALL TIRED OF COVID, WE'RE ALL TIRED OF MASKS, BUT THE THREAT IS REAL AND IT AFFECTS ALL OTHER HEALTH CARE ISSUES THAT OUR CITY FACES.
WHEN YOU CAN'T GET A WHEN IT'S A DELAY TO GET A BED FOR A BROKEN ARM OR ANY OTHER MEDICAL ISSUES THAT AFFECTS THE HEALTH CARE OF THE ENTIRE NETWORK, THE ENTIRE SYSTEM FOR OUR CITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.
ALL RIGHT, I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING, SO WE ARE DOWN TO APPOINTMENTS, AGENDA ITEM
[9. APPOINTMENTS Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for the purpose of discussing or considering employment, assignment, appointment, promotion, demotion, dismissal, salaries, disciplining or resignation of a public officer, appointee, or employee of any public body...., pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(1).]
NUMBER NINE.THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENT FOR OUR SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION.
STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO MAKE TWO APPOINTMENTS TO TERMS EXPIRING OCTOBER 2022 AND TWO APPOINTMENTS TO TERMS EXPIRING OCTOBER 2024.
AND I DO BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS IS THE FIRST FOR NOMINATIONS.
YES, MR. MAYOR, I AM HONORED TO RECOMMEND THE REAPPOINTMENT OF MS. KRISTEN KONKEL.
SERVE ON THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION FOR A TERM EXPIRING OCTOBER 2024.
ALL RIGHT, A MOTION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
NEXT IS COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET FOR THE NEXT APPOINTMENT.
I AM HONORED TO RECOMMEND MARGARET STEIGER TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION FOR THE TERM EXPIRING OCTOBER 2022.
ALL RIGHT, I WILL SECOND THAT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
NEXT IS COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
MAYOR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE 2024 APPOINTMENT, BUT I WAS GOING TO APPOINT APRIL SMITH TO A TWO YEAR TERM EXPIRING IN OCTOBER 2022.
YEAH, WELL, THAT WOULD BE YEAH, THAT WOULD BE ONE YEAR, BUT WE'LL GO WITH THAT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT MOLLY MCCORMICK TO AN APPOINTMENT TO A TERM EXPIRING OCTOBER 2024.
I WILL ENTHUSIASTICALLY SECOND THAT.
ALL RIGHT ENTHUSIASTICALLY SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
WE ARE NOW DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.
[10. LIQUOR LICENSE PUBLIC HEARINGS]
THIS IS THE LIQUOR LICENSE PUBLIC HEARING.I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW AND OPEN IT UP FOR THE STAFF PRESENTATION OR A FEW WORDS.
AND THIS IS SORRY, MY APOLOGIES, THE CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION FOR ANDREA LEWKOWITZ, HIGH COUNTRY MOTOR LODGE AND GENERAL STORE AT A 1000 WEST ROUTE 66 FOR A SERIES 10 NEW LICENSE, WHICH IS BEER AND WINE STORE AND SERIES
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11 HOTEL MOTEL NEW LICENSE.GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR.
RYAN TURLEY WITH THE FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THE LIQUOR LICENSE IN FRONT OF YOU.
I FOUND NO DEROGATORY RECORDS FOR ANY OF THE APPLICANTS OR THE BUSINESS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT IS ON LINE IF THE COUNCIL DOES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
REGARDING THIS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT.
WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO.
GET THE RIGHT WORDING FOR YOU.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO FORWARD THE APPLICATION OF THE STATE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR DAGGETT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ANY OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES WE'RE NOW DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, THIS IS OUR CONSENT ITEMS.
[11. CONSENT ITEMS All matters under Consent Agenda are considered by the City Council to be routine and will be enacted by one motion approving the recommendations listed on the agenda. Unless otherwise indicated, expenditures approved by Council are budgeted items.]
THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF RATIFYING A GRANT AGREEMENT, RATIFYING THE GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND THE U.S.DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION FOR AIRPORT RESCUE GRANT PROGRAM FUNDING FOR OPERATIONAL AND MAINTENANCE EXPENSES DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE FLAGSTAFF PULLIAM AIRPORT.
STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO RATIFY THE GRANT AGREEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF ONE MILLION NINE HUNDRED AND NINETY FOUR THOUSAND AND SIXTY THREE DOLLARS FOR AIRPORT OPERATIONAL AND MAINTENANCE COSTS.
ACTUALLY, MAYOR, JUST A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS AS PRESENTED WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR THIS.
AS WELL AS THE NEXT SUB ITEM B.
DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO ENTERTAIN.
I MOVED TO APPROVE CONSENT, ALL THE CONSENT ITEMS 11 A 11 B FOR APPROVAL.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
YEAH JUST I SUPPORT THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO JUST KIND OF POINT OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE AIRPORT GETS SUBSTANTIAL SUBSIDIES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IN THIS CASE, A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS.
SO WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING, LIKE, SHOULD WE KEEP AMTRAK AN THOSE THINGS, LET'S BEAR IN MIND, IT'S THIS MODE OF TRANSPORTATION IS VERY STRONGLY SUPPORTED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THEREFORE, IT MAKES SOME SENSE TO SUPPORT OTHER TYPES OF MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION AS WELL.
ANYWAY, I DO SUPPORT THIS, THOUGH.
WELL STATED COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
[12. ROUTINE ITEMS]
WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 12 A.THIS IS OUR ROUTINE ITEMS. THIS IS A CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021-18.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY INTERESTS FOR THE BEULAH UNIVERSITY ROADWAY PROJECT, PROVIDING FOR DELEGATION OF AUTHORITIES SEVERABILITY AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO READ ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021-18 BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FINAL TIME.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL BRYCE DOTY, REAL ESTATE MANAGER, NO PRESENTATION TONIGHT, BUT I DO HAVE A QUICK UPDATE ABOUT THIS ITEM FOR THOSE OF YOU WITH BETTER MEMORIES THAN MYSELF THIS ORDINANCE WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL ON THE JULY 6TH MEETING OF THIS YEAR.
WE DELAYED THE SECOND READING TO ALLOW FOR ANY MODIFICATIONS ARISING OUT OF COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION AT THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN DESIGN COMPONENTS.
THAT DISCUSSION HAPPENED TWO WEEKS AGO ON OCTOBER 5TH.
WE NOW FEEL COMFORTABLE PROCEEDING WITH THE DESIGN AND WITH THE AUTHORITY TO ACQUIRE THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] THE SECOND ORDINANCE.
SINCE THAT INITIAL READING, OUR DESIGN CONSULTANTS DID UPDATE 10 LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS ON THIS, SO THE EXHIBIT IS UPDATED TO REFLECT THOSE AND THEY ARE NO LONGER REFERRED TO ON THE MAP.
WE ALSO REMOVED FIVE ACQUISITIONS BECAUSE WE NO LONGER NEEDED THEM FOR THE PROJECT AND THAT THEY WERE ALREADY OR THEY'RE ALREADY OWNED BY THE CITY.
AND THEN WE ADDED TWO ADDITIONAL ACQUISITIONS.
THAT'S BU 13-1, WHICH IS THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR SQUARE FOOT EASEMENT FOR THE BUS STOP.
AND THEN 15-1 IS AN 84 SQUARE FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT.
AND THAT'S ALL THE UPDATES ON THIS ORDINANCE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
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GO FOR IT.I MOVE TO READ ORDINANCE 2021-18 BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FINAL TIME.
A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
VICE MAYOR BEAT YOU TO IT, SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR DAGGETT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, MAYOR, CAN I JUMP IN? YES, SIR.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS MY OPPORTUNITY.
BRYCE I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU OR FOR RICK OR FOR JEFF.
BUT WE'VE HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THOSE THAT ROUNDABOUT SINCE THAT DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
AND BASICALLY, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WOULD ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PLAN THAT ARE MINOR IN SCOPE IMPACT THE DECISIONS WE'RE MAKING TONIGHT.
IF THERE ARE ANY DESIGNS THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS, WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL IN A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE OR THOSE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES.
BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD CHANGE.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH THESE ORDINANCES FOR EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY ACQUISITION.
SO IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL IF THERE ARE MINOR MODIFICATIONS AND WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD ADDITIONAL PROPERTY INTERESTS.
AND I DON'T THINK WHAT I'M LOOKING TO SEE ADJUSTED WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY ACQUISITION IT'S MORE JUST THE SETUP, JUST A LITTLE TWEAKS IN THE SETUP TO MAKE IT MORE FRIENDLY TO THE BIKE AND PET COMMUNITY.
BUT WE CAN DIVE INTO THAT LATER OFFLINE.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T MISSING SOMETHING ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY INTERESTS FOR THE BEULAH UNIVERSITY ROADWAY PROJECT, PROVIDING FOR DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY SEVERABILITY AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I MOVE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE, JUST READ.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY DO I HAVE A SECOND.
SHIMONI, YOU CAN HAVE THE SECOND.
COOL, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
[A. Consideration and Possible Adoption of Resolution No. 2021-44: A resolution authorizing the execution of the First Amendment to the Mill Town Development Agreement between Vintage Partners, LLC and the City of Flagstaff related to the development of approximately 18.11 acres of real property generally located at 1801 South Milton Road. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: 1) Read Resolution No. 2021-44 by title only 2) City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2021-44 by title only (if approved above) 3) Adopt Resolution No. 2021-44]
ANY OPPOSED.THAT CARRIES AGENDA ITEM 13 IS OUR REGULAR AGENDA 13 A IS THE CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-44.
THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE MILL TOWN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN VINTAGE PARTNERS LLC AND THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 18.11 ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 1801 SOUTH MILTON ROAD.
STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO READ RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-44 BY TITLE ONLY.
GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I AM RICK BARRETT, CITY ENGINEER AND ENGINEERING DIRECTOR.
THE ITEM TONIGHT IS, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE MILL TOWN DA AMENDMENT.
SO THIS ITEM VERY GENERALLY DOES ALLOW THE CITY TO TAKE OVER DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE BEULAH EXTENSION.
THE UNIVERSITY REALIGNMENTS, AS WELL AS THE MILTON UNDERPASS OR THE BIKE PED TUNNEL ONE IN THE SAME.
SO THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF ALL THAT HAS BEEN DONE TOGETHER AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
THE ORIGINAL DA ACTUALLY REQUIRES THAT THE DEVELOPER DELIVER THESE PROJECTS.
IT'S JUST BECOME OBVIOUS THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE OVER THIS PROJECT, AND THE DEVELOPER AGREES.
SO HOPEFULLY COUNCIL AGREES WITH THAT AS WELL.
THIS DA AMENDMENT ALSO PROVIDES FOR THE PAYMENT OF THE TUNNEL THAT THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.
SO ALL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PEDESTRIAN TUNNEL OR THE UNDERPASS AS I MENTIONED BEFORE ARE TO BE BORNE BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.
ALL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION THAT IS JUST TO BE INCLUSIVE, SO THE DA ALSO TALKS ABOUT HOW 1.65 MILLION DOLLAR PAYMENTS WILL BE MADE UP FRONT, CALLED THE FIXED PAYMENT AND THAT ANY AMOUNTS DUE FOR THE REST OF THE COST OF THE TUNNEL, INCLUDING, AGAIN, DESIGN AND
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CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE MADE UP TO FIVE YEARS AFTER THE TUNNEL'S COMPLETION AND THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO PROVIDE US A SUBSTITUTE SECURITY IN THE MEANTIME, THAT EQUALS THAT DIFFERENCE.SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT BRIEF UPDATE AND PLEASE KNOW THAT WE HAVE CHRISTINA [INAUDIBLE] AVAILABLE WITH ME TONIGHT, AS WELL AS TIFFANY ANTOL OUR PLANNER ON THE PROJECT.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE FOR YOU TONIGHT.
COUNCIL DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MR. BARRETT.
WITH THAT I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AND THEN AFTER THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT IF WE GOT A SECOND.
SO MY MOTION IS I MOVE TO READ RESOLUTION 2021-44 BY TITLE ONLY.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS.
SO MY COMMENT IS THAT I THINK WHEN THE PRESIDIO CONDOS CAME BEFORE US, THAT WAS A DA MODIFICATION VERY SIMILAR TO THIS, AND I THINK THE LESSON LEARNED THERE WAS THAT WHEN SOMETHING, WHEN APPROPRIATE, THAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DO SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH TO MAKE SURE THAT AFFECTED PARTIES WERE AWARE OF IT.
I BELIEVE THAT IN THIS CASE, THAT WOULD BE UNNECESSARY.
BUT I'M JUST SORT OF REMINDING STAFF TO KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR FUTURE DA REVISIONS.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
WE DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES.
MOVING RIGHT ALONG HERE TO AGENDA ITEM 13 B.
OH SORRY CITY CLERK, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
[LAUGHTER] A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZING THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE MILL TOWN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN VINTAGE PARTNERS LLC AND THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 18.11 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 1801 SOUTH MILTON ROAD AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2021-47.
IS THAT THE CORRECT NUMBER? FORTY FOUR.
SEE, I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE TRYING TO JUMP AHEAD HERE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS.
ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
[B. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2021-47: A resolution approving Binding Waivers of Enforcement for seventy parcels of land located in the City of Flagstaff. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: 1) Read Resolution No. 2021-47 by title only 2) City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2021-47 by title only (if approved above) 3) Adopt Resolution No. 2021-47]
NOW WE'RE ON TO AGENDA 13 B, WHICH IS THE CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-47.A RESOLUTION APPROVING BINDING WAIVERS OF ENFORCEMENT FOR 70 PARCELS OF LAND LOCATED IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.
STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO READ RESOLUTION NUMBER 2021-47 BY TITLE ONLY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CHRISTINA RUBALCAVA, SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, I DO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
SO THIS IS THIS ITEM IS TO RESOLVE 70 PROP 207 CLAIMS THAT WERE FILED WITH THE CITY.
ON NOVEMBER 17TH, 2020, SO NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED ORDINANCE 2020-28, WHICH MADE AMENDMENTS TO THE FLAGSTAFF ZONING CODE, AND THESE AMENDMENTS REGULATED WHAT WE NOW CALL HIGH OCCUPANCY HOUSING AND ADDED THAT LAND USE AND SOME OF THE REGULATIONS THAT WE SEE ARE REQUIRING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR HIGH OCCUPANCY HOUSING, RESTRICTING HIGH OCCUPANCY HOUSING OF FOUR UNITS OR MORE TO THE PEDESTRIAN SHED OF AN ACTIVITY CENTER AND ADDING VARIOUS PARKING, BEDROOM, BATHROOMS AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
DURING THE MONTHS OF JULY, SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, THE CITY RECEIVED PROP 207 CLAIMS ON BEHALF OF 70 PARCELS OF LAND WITHIN THE CITY, AND THE CLAIMS BY THE OWNERS ARE THAT AS THE RESULT OF THE HOH CODE AMENDMENTS, THEIR PROPERTIES LOST A COLLECTIVE $51 MILLION IN
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VALUE.UNDER ARIZONA STATUTES, ARS 12-1134, ALSO REFERRED TO AS PROP 207.
THAT STATUTE PROVIDES THAT IF THE EXISTING RIGHTS TO USE, DIVIDE, SELL OR POSSESS PRIVATE REAL PROPERTY ARE REDUCED BY THE ENACTMENT OR APPLICABILITY OF ANY LAND USE LAW ENACTED AFTER THE DATE THE PROPERTY IS TRANSFERRED TO THE OWNER.
AND SUCH ACTION REDUCES THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.
THEN THE OWNER IS ENTITLED TO JUST COMPENSATION FROM THE STATE OR THE POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE THAT ENACTED THE LAND USE LAW.
AND SO THE PROCESS IS THAT THE LAND OWNER MAKES A WRITTEN DEMAND FOR A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF JUST COMPENSATION TO THE CITY, AND THE CITY HAS 90 DAYS.
THEN TO EITHER PAY THE DEMANDED AMOUNT, AMEND THE LAW PERMANENT OR PERMANENTLY WAIVE ENFORCEMENT OF THE NEW LAND USE LAW ON THE LAND OWNERS PARCEL.
AND THAT LAST PIECE IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS TONIGHT, IF THE CITY DOES NOT ACT, THEN THE LANDOWNER MAY FILE A CLAIM FOR JUST COMPENSATION IN SUPERIOR COURT WITHIN THREE YEARS OF THE DATE THAT THE LAND USE LAW TOOK EFFECT AND JUST COMPENSATION FOR DIMINUTION IN VALUE IS THE REDUCTION IN FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THE PROPERTY RESULTING FROM THE LAND USE LAW, AND IT'S OTHERWISE LOOKED AT AS THE MOST LIKELY PRICE WHICH THE LAND WOULD BRING IF EXPOSED FOR SALE IN THE OPEN MARKET BY A PURCHASER WHO BUYS WITH KNOWLEDGE OF ALL THE USES AND PURPOSES TO WHICH IT IS ADAPTED AND FOR WHICH IT IS CAPABLE.
SO IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL TONIGHT, THEN THE CITY WILL AGREE AND DECLARE THAT THE HOH ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS WILL NOT BE ENFORCED NOR APPLICABLE TO THE ENTIRETY OR ANY PORTION OF THE 70 PROPERTIES THAT ARE LISTED IN THE BINDING WAIVER OF ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT A OF THE RESOLUTION TO THIS AGENDA ITEM.
AND WITH THAT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING OR SEEING ANYTHING, SO I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVE TO READ RESOLUTION 2021-47, FORTY SEVEN BY TITLE ONLY.
YOU HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT.
THAT SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
MOVING RIGHT ALONG HERE, FOLKS.
A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL APPROVING BINDING WAIVERS OF ENFORCEMENT FOR 70 PARCELS OF LAND WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.
I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2021-47.
A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, DO I HAVE A SECOND.
SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR DAGGETT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
[14. DISCUSSION ITEMS]
DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 14, THIS IS OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR THE LONE TREE OVERPASS PROJECT UPDATE.IT TOOK ME BY SURPRISE, I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BREAK FIRST.
SO GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M CHRISTINE CAMERON, PROJECT MANAGER WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS IS OUR PRESENTATION ON THE LONE TREE OVERPASS.
THERE WAS A CONCEPT STUDY THAT WAS PERFORMED IN THE MID 2000S THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND APPROVED IN 2010.
IT WENT THROUGH CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC PROCESS AT THAT TIME, AND IT PROVIDES FOR AN ADDITIONAL NORTH SOUTH CORRIDOR OVER THE RAILROAD IN THE FUTURE RIO DE FLAG ALIGNMENT.
IT ALSO PROVIDES CONGESTION RELIEF IN OUR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, ENHANCES CONNECTIVITY AND CIRCULATION AND INCREASES SAFETY.
IT'S MUCH LIKE OUR FOURTH STREET BRIDGE OVER BNSF CORRIDOR OVER BY THE [INAUDIBLE].
IN 2018 THROUGH PROPOSITION 420.
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WE WERE FUNDED AT SEVENTY THREE MILLION DOLLARS, SO IT WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS.IN FEBRUARY, COUNCIL OF THIS YEAR, COUNCIL AWARDED OH, YES.
IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, COUNCIL AWARDED A DESIGN BILL CONTRACT TO A DESIGN BUILD TEAM THAT INCLUDES AIMS, OUR CONTRACTOR AND WSP, OUR DESIGN CONSULTANT.
AND SINCE THEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THE APPROVED CONCEPT, DATA COLLECTION FOR THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, COORDINATING WORK WITH BNSF RAILWAY, THE ARMY CORPS AND ARDOT, AND WE'VE BEGUN PROPERTY ACQUISITION AND RELOCATIONS.
WITH EARLY DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.
WE'VE ALSO FOCUSED ON ENHANCING AND BUILDING UPON THE CONCEPT FOR BIKE AND PED ACCESSIBILITY AND SAFETY.
IN ADDITION TO THE OVERPASS, A PORTION OF THE LONE TREE CORRIDOR TO THE SOUTH WILL ALSO BE ENHANCED DOWN TO SAWMILL ROAD.
THIS IS TO PROVIDE A CORRIDOR WITH CONSISTENT IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE CORRIDOR FUNDING WAS PASSED AS PART OF PROP 419, ALSO IN 2018.
SO FOR OUR AGENDA TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO DO A PROJECT OVERVIEW, AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO THE DESIGN TEAM FOR DISCUSSION ON THE TRAFFIC DEMAND MODEL, INTERSECTION TYPES, GREENHOUSE GAS ANALYSIS.
AND THEN I'LL BE BACK TO TALK ABOUT PROJECT ESTHETICS.
SO WE HAVE PRESENTED TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, THE STATE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND THE BIKE AND PED ADVISORY COMMITTEES.
WE ALSO HAD A PUBLIC MEETING SEPT.
30 TO TAKE THE PROJECT PUBLIC AND NOW WE ARE.
SO OUR NEXT STEPS AFTER TONIGHT WILL BE TO TAKE THE INPUT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ON THE PRESENTATIONS, ON EARLY DESIGN.
AND WE'LL BE BACK BEFORE YOU, HOPEFULLY IN NOVEMBER TO PRESENT A CONTRACT FOR A SUBSTANTIAL DESIGN COMPLETION.
BUT ONE THING YOU WILL NOT SEE YET IN THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
THAT REPORT IS STILL UNDERGOING REVIEW WITH CITY STAFF AND THAT WILL BE PRESENTED AT A FUTURE MEETING.
AND MEETING TONIGHT ASIDE, FOR MYSELF, WE HAVE GOT RICK BARRETT, OUR CITY ENGINEER, JEFF BAUMAN, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, SARA DECKER, OUR COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING MANAGER WHO IS PRETTY MUCH OUR SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN EXPERT AND SUSTAINABILITY STAFF, IS ALSO JOINING US.
WE ALSO HAVE THE DESIGNER AND THE CONTRACTOR, AND I'LL LET JASON [INAUDIBLE] THE DESIGN LEAD INTRODUCE HIS STAFF.
SO THE VOTER SUPPORTED GOALS OF THE LONE TREE OVERPASS, AGAIN ARE TO PROVIDE CONGESTION RELIEF IN OUR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, ENHANCED CONNECTIVITY AND CIRCULATION.
BUT THIS IS ALSO A COMMUNITY PROJECT THAT HAS A ROLE IN CLIMATE ACTION AND IN BIKE AND PED SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY AND THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN.
AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO A WELL-ROUNDED, ROBUST CONVERSATION TONIGHT.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND JUMP INTO OUR PROJECT OVERVIEW.
SO THIS IS OUR PROJECT MAP IN ORDER TO GET THE WHOLE THING ON ONE PAGE AND AS BIG AS WE COULD GET IT, WE SKEWED IT A LITTLE BIT.
THE RED AND PURPLE SHOW THE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS AREA WITH THE RED BEING ROADWAY AND THE PURPLE BEING OUR OUR BRIDGE AREA.
SO FROM NORTH TO SOUTH, WE'VE GOT THE ROUTE 66 CORRIDOR.
THE ROUTE 66 CORRIDOR AND THERE'LL BE A NEW INTERSECTION WITH ARDOT AT THE NEW LONE TREE IN ROUTE 66 TO THE SOUTH OF THAT WE HAVE THE BNSF RAILWAY CORRIDOR.
THE RAILWAY WOULD ACTUALLY BE LOWERED AND MOVED TO THE SOUTH IN ORDER TO GET THE BRIDGE OVER.
WE'VE GOT IN YELLOW, THE RIO DE FLAG, THE FUTURE ALIGNMENT, WHICH WILL BE AN OPEN CHANNEL IN THIS AREA.
THE ALIGNMENT YOU SEE IN THE GREEN IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE ELDEN CORRIDOR.
IT'S ALSO CALLED THE ELDEN COTTAGE EXTENSION.
AND THIS IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT BRANDON AVENUE WILL NO LONGER GO THROUGH INTO THE INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THESE PEOPLE OVER HERE THAT OWN PARCELS AND OPERATE BUSINESSES ACCESS, THIS ELDEN CORRIDOR WAS WAS APPROVED IN THE CONCEPT STUDY AGAIN IN THE LATE 2000S.
WE ALSO HAVE THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT DESIGNATES SOME OF THIS AREA FOR CIVIC SPACE AND ALSO BIKE AND PED FACILITIES.
SO WE HAVE TWO COMMUNITY PLANS, YOU KNOW, INCLUDED IN THIS GENERAL AREA, AND WE'RE WORKING TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH.
SO THIS AREA WILL BE A ROAD CORRIDOR AND A SEPARATED BIKE AND PED FACILITY.
MOVING FURTHER TO THE SOUTH, WE HAVE BRANNEN AVENUE.
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AND THIS IS A NEW INTERSECTION WITH BRENNAN AND LONE TREE.AND AGAIN, IT DOES NOT CONTINUE ALL THE WAY TO TO THE EAST.
IT'S A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ONLY ON BRANNEN, AND THEN FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING NORTH ON ON LONE TREE, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE A LEFT HAND TURN ONTO BRANNEN BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A MEDIAN IN THE ROADWAY THERE.
AND THEN FURTHER SOUTH, WE'VE GOT BUTLER AVENUE AND LONE TREE ROAD GOES DOWN TO FRANKLIN AVENUE AND SAWMILL.
SO ALL OF THAT AREA IS INCLUDED IN OUR PROJECT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO JUMP DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
FURTHER DOWN IN DETAIL, THIS IS THE AREA THAT'S THE SOUTHERN PORTION, SO THE CORRIDOR PORTION OF THE PROJECT, FROM BUTLER AVENUE TO SAWMILL ROAD.
NAU AND THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, [INAUDIBLE] SAWMILL IS ON THE RIGHT.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A A STREET SECTION THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED FOR THIS AREA.
IT INCLUDES TWO TRAVEL LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
HERE AND HERE, THE FOOT'S ALIGNMENT STAYS ON THE WEST SIDE OF LONE TREE ROAD, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY MODIFIED IN THIS SECTION TO TO BE A 10 FOOT BIKE LANE, DUAL DIRECTION BIKE LANE AND THEN A SEPARATE A FULL SEPARATE SIX FOOT SIDEWALK.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WE HAVE A SINGLE BIKE LANE FACILITY, SIX FOOT NORTHBOUND ONLY AND A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK.
AND SO FROM THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT IN THE CORRIDOR OR IN THE OVERPASS CONCEPT.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY TRIED TO MAKE BIKE IMPROVEMENTS, AND ONE OF THE WAYS IS TO NUMBER ONE, MAKE THE LANES NARROWER FROM A 12 FOOT TO AN 11 FOOT YOU SEE HERE AND PULL THOSE BIKE FACILITIES UP ABOVE THE CURB PAST THE PARKWAY.
SO THERE IS SEPARATION BETWEEN VEHICULAR TRAVEL AND BIKE AND PED TRAVEL.
SO GOING FURTHER NORTH, THIS IS OUR OVERPASS AREA.
FROM BUTLER AVENUE UP TO ROUTE 66.
AGAIN, WE HAVE TWO TRAVEL LANES IN EACH DIRECTION AT 11 FEET AND ON THE OVERPASS SECTION.
THE MAIN DIFFERENCE FROM THIS IN THE SOUTH AREA TO THE SOUTH OF BUTLER IS THAT INSTEAD OF THE PARKWAY, WE HAVE A BARRIER ON THE BRIDGE THAT WE HAVE THE SAME FOOT CONNECTION ON THE WEST END SIDE OF THE ROAD WITH THE 10 FOOT BIKE LANE, THE SAME SIX FOOT SIDEWALK AND THEN THE NORTHBOUND PATH AND THEN THE SIDEWALK ON ON THE EAST SIDE.
AND THESE THE PATHS AND THE SIDEWALKS ARE ACTUALLY LARGER AND WIDER THAN WERE PRESENTED IN THE CONCEPT ALSO.
SO THIS IS THE AREA OF IMPROVEMENT AROUND 66 IN THE GREEN.
WE'VE FINISHED UP THE DRAFT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THEY HAVE THAT FOR REVIEW RIGHT NOW.
THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL GO ABOUT SEVEN HUNDRED TO 800 LINEAR FEET IN EACH DIRECTION TOWARDS ELDEN AND THEN TOWARDS THE EAST.
AND THIS IS TO PROVIDE THE TURN LANES AND [INAUDIBLE].
AND WE ARE CAPITAL DOES HAVE A DESIGN FOR A FUTS ON THE MESA UP TO THE NORTH THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO CONNECT THAT FUTS DOWN INTO THE LONE TREE CORRIDOR.
AND MOST OF OUR WIDENING WILL BE TO THE SOUTH.
AND THAT'S CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND BNSF PROPERTY.
AND AGAIN, WE HAVE A CROSS SECTION ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN.
THIS IS AGAIN ARDOT JURISDICTION, SO WE'RE FOLLOWING THEIR ROAD SECTION WITH THE ADDITION OF NARROWER LANES AT 11 FEET INSTEAD OF THE 12.
THIS AND SHOW THE FLYOVER WE HAVE IT DOESN'T LIKE TO ACT RIGHT IN THE POWERPOINT.
SO I'LL PLAY THIS ONE TIME THROUGH ALL THE WAY, AND THEN I'LL GO BACK THROUGH AND KIND OF PAUSE HERE AND THERE AND SHOW SOME ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT.
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I KNOW IT DOES NEED SOME MUSIC [INAUDIBLE].THEN WE HAVE SOME FLY UNDERS HERE OF THE BRIDGE SHOWING THE RIO.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE ELDEN CORRIDOR AREA.
HERE IN THE RIO DE FLAG AND THEN THE BNSF CORRIDOR AND THEN THE PROPOSED INTERSECTION WITH ROUTE 66.
THE VICE MAYOR HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME HOW TRAFFIC.
HOW PEOPLE DRIVING CARS KNOW WHAT TO DO ONCE THEY HIT 66.
I MEAN, I GET YOU GO LEFT OR YOU GO RIGHT.
BUT IS THERE A LIGHT THERE? IS THERE? THERE WILL BE A LIGHT THERE.
VICE MAYOR, THIS IS AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF OUR FIRST EDITION OF.
I KNOW THIS IS OUR FIRST EDITION OF THE FLYOVER AND A LOT OF THE EXHIBITS THAT YOU SEE, IT DOESN'T HAVE SIGNALIZATION YET SOMETHING AGAIN.
WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL EARLY IN THE PROCESS TO KIND OF SHOW YOU OUR PROGRESS TO DATE.
AND SO YES, THERE WILL BE A LIGHT HERE AT ROUTE 66, YOU KNOW, DIRECTING PEOPLE EAST AND WEST.
THERE WILL NOT BE ANY THROUGH TO THE NORTH.
YOU CAN SEE OUR FUTS TRAIL DROPS DOWN UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE ALSO AND CONTINUES THROUGH.
THIS IS THE AREA AGAIN OF THE ELDEN CORRIDOR AND THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS REQUIRED FOR DETENTION FOR THE PROJECT, BUT WE'VE ALSO HAVE IDEAS OF INTEGRATING THAT INTO FUTURE CIVIC SPACE FOR SOUTH SIDE WHEN THEY ARE READY TO DESIGN AND BUILD THEIR FACILITIES.
I HAVE A QUESTION THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO STOP FOR IT.
IS THERE A REASON THAT MEDIAN IS SO WIDE OR IS THAT JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE EXISTENCE OF TURN LANES AT EITHER INTERSECTION THAT NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THE WIDTH OF THE BRIDGE? MAYOR COUNCIL, EXACTLY, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE TURN LANES.
AND JASON [INAUDIBLE] WILL BE GOING OVER THE THE LAYOUT OF THOSE TURN LANES.
SO AND THAT IS BRANNEN COMING IN, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT MEDIAN I TALKED ABOUT FOR NO LEFT TURNS INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ON BRANNEN.
GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION, I'M GOING TO BRING JASON [INAUDIBLE] UP WITH WSP.
HE IS GOING TO DIG INTO THE MORE TECHNICAL DETAILS OF THE TRAFFIC DEMAND MODEL.
PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL THIS EVENING.
I'M THE DESIGN MANAGER ON THE PROJECT REPRESENTING WSP.
WE DO HAVE A CHRIS KANE, THE PROJECT MANAGER WITH THE AIMS CONSTRUCTION ON THE LINE.
I HAVE SEVERAL DESIGN TEAM MEMBERS, AS WELL AS STANDING BY JOE [INAUDIBLE], OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER WHO DEVELOPED THAT HELPED DEVELOP THE TIAS ONLINE AND FRANK FRYE ROADWAY DESIGN, AND SOPHIE COHEN, WHO'S OUR ECONOMIST FOCUSES ON THE GREENHOUSE GASES THAT WE'LL GET TO LATER.
SUSTAINABILITY YOU GOT QUESTIONS I'M HERE TO SUPPORT, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN ANSWER ANY
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QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.WE'LL START WITH THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL.
THIS MODEL WAS DEVELOPED IN COORDINATION WITH METRO PLAN.
AS CHRISTINE MENTIONED, WE DID HAVE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WE DEVELOPED DURING THIS FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT DURING A SCHEMATIC DESIGN.
THE GOAL WAS TO DETERMINE WHAT THE IMPACTS OF THIS PROJECT WOULD BE ON THE EXISTING TRAFFIC NETWORK, STREET NETWORK AND THE FLAGSTAFF AREA.
AND SO WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH METRO PLAN ON THIS.
MODELING EFFORT AND IMPACT ANALYSIS, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE ON THIS SLIDE IS THE 2026 AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC VOLUMES FOR THE BUILD AND NO BUILD CONDITIONS.
SO THE VOLUMES YOU'RE SEEING HERE IN RED IS THE AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC FOR A NO BUILD CONDITION.
IF LONE TREE WAS NOT BUILT AND THE BLACK NUMBERS ARE IF LONE TREE IS BUILT, THE REASON WE PICK 2026 IS THAT THE ANTICIPATED OPENING YEAR OF LONE TREE.
SO JUST SORT OF WALKING YOU THROUGH THE OPENING YEAR NUMBERS AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS.
CHANGE THE POINTER REAL QUICK.
THE BIG KEY IS YOU CAN SEE ON OPENING YEAR OF THIS PROJECT LONE TREES' PROJECTING BASED ON THE TRAFFIC MODELING TO BE A HIGHLY USED ARTERIAL ROADWAY FOR THE TRAFFIC NETWORK, GETTING ALMOST THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND CARS A DAY.
THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF THE FLAGSTAFF NETWORK IS PRETTY UNIQUE.
YOU HAVE THE BNSF RAILWAY GOING THROUGH SEVERAL NORTH SOUTH STREET NETWORKS.
YOU GOT MILTON BEAVER SAN FRANCISCO AND THEN YOU GOT PONDEROSA.
OF THOSE ONLY MILTON'S GRADE SEPARATED CROSSING.
SO EVERYWHERE ELSE, WHENEVER A TRAIN COMES BY, TRAFFIC HAS TO STOP.
LONE TREE WOULD PROVIDE ANOTHER GRADE SEPARATED CROSSING, MEANING TRAFFICKING GO CONTINUOUS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT A TRAIN IS CROSSING THE CORRIDOR.
AND WE TERM THAT AS A SCREEN LINE FOR OUR WORK.
AND SO BY PROVIDING A SECOND OPTION, YOU'RE PROVIDING AN ATTRACTOR FOR USERS WHO WANT TO CROSS NORTH SOUTH THROUGH THIS CORRIDOR.
SO GENERALLY, MILTON, YOU'RE SEEING A REDUCTION OF ABOUT EIGHT THOUSAND VEHICLES DAILY, YOU'RE PULLING ABOUT SEVEN THOUSAND AND EIGHT THOUSAND VEHICLES OFF OF BEAVER AND SAN FRANCISCO STREET, SO THOSE GET A SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN NORTH SOUTH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
AND YOU'RE GETTING A REDUCTION OF ABOUT SIX THOUSAND VEHICLES PROJECTED FROM PONDEROSA.
TO GET TRAFFIC FROM MILTON OVER TO LONE TREE, YOU'RE GETTING A SMALL INCREASE ON BUTLER ABOUT SIX TO SEVEN THOUSAND.
AS PEOPLE ARE MOVING EAST WEST, YOU'RE ALSO GETTING SOME VOLUMES FROM THE SOUTH.
THIS COLLECTION OF THIRTY SEVEN THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND VEHICLES IS COMING FROM MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS EAST, WEST AND SOUTH.
AND THEN FROM THE DOWNTOWN AREA ALONG MILTON, YOU'RE GETTING A PROJECTED DECREASE AS WELL, WITH A PICKUP IN VOLUMES HEADED EASTBOUND FROM LONE TREE.
SO GENERALLY WHAT YOUR FLOW OF TRAFFIC IS, IT'S COMING FROM EAST, WEST AND SOUTH ATTRACT TO LONE TREE AND THEN YOUR PROJECTED VOLUMES INCREASE TO THE EAST.
BUT GENERALLY, YOUR DOWNTOWN AREA TRAFFIC IS PROJECTED TO GO SOUTH.
SO THAT'S WHAT OUR TRAFFIC MODEL IS SHOWING BASED ON METRO PLAN.
NOW WHEN THIS MODEL WAS BUILT.
WE DID USE METRO PLANS CURRENT MODELING.
WE DID UPDATE THE MODEL FOR SEVERAL LAND USE CHANGES, FOR EXAMPLE, THE HOSPITAL THAT'S BEING RELOCATED.
WE DID INCORPORATE THAT CHANGE INTO OUR MODELS.
WE TRIED TO MAKE IT AS UP TO DATE AS POSSIBLE.
WE ALSO USED A PROGRAM CALLED STREET LIGHT, WHICH USES PHONE USER DATA THAT TRACKS ORIGIN DESTINATION TO SEE WHERE USERS ARE ACTUALLY STARTING AND ENDING THEIR TRIP DESTINATION ORIGIN.
SO WE DID DO SOME CALIBRATION OF THIS MODEL FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROJECT AND THEN CALIBRATED THIS MODEL TO BE AS ACCURATE AS WE CAN WITH THE BEST DATA AND TOOLS WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
THE PLAN HERE THAT CURRENTLY METRO PLANTS BUILT OUT TO YOU CAN START TO SEE THE VOLUMES BASED ON THEIR PROJECTED GROWTH.
DO START TO CATCH UP AND YOU START CATCHING BACK UP BETWEEN LONE TREE AND MILTON.
SO SOME OF THE GAINS AND SHIFTS THAT WE SAW COMING FROM THE REDUCTIONS ON MILTON START TO CATCH BACK UP BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE BALANCING OUT VOLUMES BASED ON GROWTH BETWEEN MILTON AND LONE TREE, BUT YOU'RE STILL SEEING QUITE A BIT OF REDUCTION ON BEAVER AND SAN FRANCISCO STILL HAVE A REDUCTION FROM FOURTEEN THOUSAND PROJECTED TO FOUR THOUSAND AND FIFTEEN THOUSAND TO FOUR THOUSAND.
AND YOU'RE STILL SEEING A REDUCTION OVER ON PONDEROSA OF ABOUT TWENTY THOUSAND VEHICLES A DAY TO NINE THOUSAND.
SO WE'RE SEEING REALLY IS LONE TREES PROVIDING A BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT SEPARATED WITH BNSF, IT'S REALLY BECOMING AN ATTRACTIVE ROUTE FOR USERS HEADED NORTH SOUTH ACROSS FLAGSTAFF.
VICE MAYOR THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
I'M WONDERING WHETHER YOU LOOKED.
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I SEE THESE NUMBERS ON BEAVER AND SAN FRANCISCO, AND I'M WONDERING WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON.I KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON BUSINESSES, BUT.
BY HAVING LIGHTER HAVING FEWER CARS COMING PAST THEIR BUSINESS, DOES THIS ALSO, DO THESE NUMBERS, EQUATE UP NORTH OF 66 AS WELL? SO YOU GUYS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT AN ECONOMIC IMPACT? SO WE HAVE DONE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY AS WELL.
THE DRAFT REPORT IS IN WITH THE CITY FOR REVIEW.
SO WE ARE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS CURRENTLY.
SOME OF THE CONCEPTS WE TALKED ABOUT, THE IMPACT IS WHAT HOW MUCH OF THAT BUSINESS IS DESTINATION BUSINESS.
SO ARE YOU GOING TO THAT BUSINESS BECAUSE THE BUSINESS IS THERE OR IS IT PASS THROUGH BUSINESS? SO THAT'S SOME OF THE DETAILS WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH WITH THAT DRAFT STUDY.
I BELIEVE THE PLAN IS TO PRESENT THAT DATA AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING.
SO WE ARE GOING TO ONCE THAT DRAFT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY THE CITY, WE'LL BE PRESENTING THAT INFORMATION TO COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE.
SO YOU'RE SHOWING SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC ON MILTON.
I PRESUME THAT'S MILTON NORTH OF BUTLER.
WHAT ABOUT MILTON DOWN SOUTH OF BUTLER? IT PROBABLY WON'T BE AS SIGNIFICANT.
SO I'M NOT AS DEEP INTO THE THE TRAFFIC DEMAND MODEL OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS WERE, WE'RE MORE INTO THIS TRAFFIC MODEL.
BUT YOU ADD UP THE TOTALS YOU'RE SEEING HERE, YOU'RE PULLING ABOUT SEVEN THOUSAND VEHICLES FROM MILTON ITSELF, GOING EAST WEST ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
BUT LET ME GO BACK TO THE TWENTY SIXTH YEAR, BUT YOU GET THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND VEHICLES GOING ON TO THE LONE TREE.
SO THAT'S YOU'RE PULLING OTHER VEHICLES FROM THE SOUTHWEST AND SOUTHERN AND SOUTHEASTERN REGIONS TO GET TO THAT THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND VEHICLES.
SO IT'S BEING PULLED REGIONALLY.
WHETHER THEY START ON MILTON AND HEAD TO LONE TREE OR STARTING IN THE NAU AREA TO THE SOUTH AND COME UP, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE ON, WHERE THEY BEGIN THEIR JOURNEY FROM MILTON OVER TO LONE TREE, THEY COULD BE COMING UP OTHER AVENUES, BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND TRY TO GET THAT DATA.
SO IF SOMEBODY'S AT NAU FOR INSTANCE, THEY MAY DECIDE TO GO EAST AND THEN GO UP LONE TREE, WHERE NOW THEY MIGHT GO WEST AND THEN GO UP MELTON.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE CAME IN FROM, SAY, WEST ROUTE 66 AND THEN TO GO OVER TO MILTON AND THEN THEY GO UP AND TURN RIGHT ON BUTLER.
THAT WON'T HELP THE ROUTE 66 AND MILTON INTERSECTION MUCH.
YEAH, WELL, WE ARE SEEING A SLIGHT INCREASE ON BUTLER.
YOU DO SEE THE NUMBERS INCREASE FROM TWENTY ONE TO TWENTY EIGHT.
SO WE ARE SEEING SOME OF THAT MILTON TO LONE TREE MOVEMENT, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE TO MAKE THIS THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND.
SO IF YOU REVISE THIS AGAIN, IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO KIND OF DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN SOUTH OF BUTLER AND NORTH OF BUTLER ON MILTON, BECAUSE IT COULD BE A VERY DIFFERENT STORY.
FROM THE NETWORK MODEL, WE THEN STARTED LOOKING AT THE INTERSECTIONS SPECIFICALLY AT BUTLER AND ROUTE 66.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A VISUALIZATION OF THE VEHICLES PER HOUR, SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT LEVEL OF SERVICE OF THE INTERSECTION.
HOW WELL DOES THIS INTERSECTION WORK BASED ON THE PEAK HOUR VOLUMES FOR THESE INTERSECTIONS? THE PM TRAFFIC, PM TRAFFIC IS THE CONTROLLING INTERSECTION TRAFFIC.
THESE COLOR CODING IS BASED ON THE VOLUME AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHAT THAT VOLUME FROM FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE WOULD RECOMMEND.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM HERE, IF YOU START GREEN, THE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON STUDIES AND DATA FROM FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEERS GREEN WOULD INDICATE A SINGLE LEFT TURN LANE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
AND AS YOU GET TO RED CODING, A DOUBLE LEFT TURN LANE IS LIKELY TO BE RECOMMENDED FOR LEVEL OF SERVICE.
FOR THRU LANES, ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY VEHICLES PER HOUR IS ABOUT YOUR BREAK POINT.
GREEN IS ONE LANE AGAIN, TWO LANES IS RED AND THEN RIGHT TURN LANES.
ANYTHING GREATER THAN THREE HUNDRED VEHICLES PER HOUR WOULD LIKELY RECOMMEND A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE AT THE INTERSECTION.
IT'S ABOUT THREE HUNDRED VEHICLES PER HOURS WHEN THAT BREAK COMES IN.
SO VISUALIZING THOSE NUMBERS UP AT THE INTERSECTION, WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL THAN JUST HAVING WRONG NUMBERS UP HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS AT BUTLER AND LONE TREE.
SO YOU GOT BUTLER GOING LEFT TO RIGHT.
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YOU GOT LONE TREE GOING UP AND DOWN.YOU SEE, THE KEY TAKEAWAYS IS THAT THERE ARE RECOMMENDED RIGHTS AT ALMOST EVERY DIRECTION JUST BASED ON THE PREDICTED VEHICLE TURNING MOVEMENTS.
FOR THE THRU MOVEMENTS COMING NORTHBOUND ON LONE TREE AND EASTBOUND ON BUTLER, TWO LANES ARE RECOMMENDED FOR BOTH DIRECTIONS.
AND THEN WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS THAT BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY THROUGH MOVEMENTS EASTBOUND ON BUTLER, THIS IS THE WESTBOUND LEFT TO SOUTH IS A BORDERLINE TURNING MOVEMENT BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY THROUGHS TO CLEAR THE INTERSECTION FOR WEST TURNS.
THE EARLY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE GO TO A DOUBLE LEFT AT THIS INTERSECTION IS THE BORDERLINE MOVEMENT.
IT'S A YELLOW, SO IT FALLS RIGHT BETWEEN THE DECISION POINT BETWEEN A SINGLE OR A DOUBLE LEFT.
BUT WITH THE GREEN TIMES AND YELLOW TIMES, EVEN IF YOU HAD A PERMISSIVE LEFT TURN WITH YELLOW, YOU HAVE SUCH HEAVY THROUGH MOVEMENTS GOING EASTBOUND THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CLEAR THE LEFT TURN Q WITHOUT A DOUBLE LEFT.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THIS HERE STRIPES IN THE BACKGROUND WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF A DOUBLE LEFT.
BUT WE'RE STILL EVALUATING THESE INTERSECTIONS WE HAVE AT THIS POINT IN OUR INTERSECTION DECISIONS.
WE'VE DONE THE DATA COLLECTION.
WE'VE LOOKED AT THE REGIONAL MODELS AND WHAT THE PREDICTED PEAK VEHICLE HOURS AND WE HAVE TALKED TO STAKEHOLDERS, OBVIOUSLY.
SO WE'RE ALL EARLY IN THE DESIGN, BUT THIS IS CLEARLY WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE POINTING US TO.
SAME WITH SOUTHBOUND LONE TREE TO EASTBOUND.
BASED ON THE VOLUMES, WE ARE RECOMMENDING A DOUBLE LEFT SOUTHBOUND TO EASTBOUND.
SO THOSE ARE THE VOLUMES THAT BUTLER AND LONE TREE.
WE DO HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI ONLINE.
SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES IN TIME BETWEEN THE DOUBLE LEFT AND A SINGLE LEFT FOR SOME OF THESE? I MEAN, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A MINUTE DELAY FOR A VEHICLE OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 15 SECONDS DELAY? CAN YOU SPEAK TO ANY OF THAT? JOE, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? I'M GOING TO TRY TO HAND THIS OVER TO MY TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
JASON, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.
AS IN TERMS OF THE TIME, MAYBE BALLPARK 30 SECONDS DIFFERENCE TO GIVE A NUMBER THERE, IT'D BE MORE.
WOULD IT BE LESS DELAY IF WE HAD THE DOUBLE LEFT THAN IF WE HAD THE SINGLE LEFT? THE SINGLE LEFT WOULD CUE BACK FROM THE INTERSECTION QUITE A WAYS.
SO SOME OF THAT TRADE OFF IN THE QUEUE WOULD BE A REDUCTION IN THE DELAY.
OK, THAT'S HELPFUL, THANK YOU.
AND THEN A QUICK FOLLOW UP, SO JUST TO CONFIRM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 30 SECONDS BETWEEN A SINGLE LEFT HAND AND THE DOUBLE LEFT HAND RIGHT.
AND THEN CAN SOMEONE ALSO SPEAK TO THE INTERSECTION SIZE IN TERMS OF THROUGH THE LENS OF A PEDESTRIAN AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY OF POTENTIAL INCIDENTS AND COLLISIONS AND DEATHS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WE CAN POINT TO? YES, SO COUNCIL MEMBER, WILL WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN THE SLIDES? EXCELLENT.
INTERSECTIONS, I'D LIKE TO GET TO THAT QUESTION WHEN WE SHOW THAT IF YOU'RE OPEN TO THAT.
UM, SO WE DID THE SAME EXERCISE AT ROUTE 66 AND LONE TREE.
WE AGAIN LOOKED AT THE PEAK VEHICLE HOURS AGAIN.
THE PM PEAK CONTROLLED ON THE AM WAS CLOSE AS WELL.
BUT LOOKING AT THE PEAK HOURS, THE EAST BOUND RIGHTS AND THE NORTHBOUND RIGHTS BOTH WARRANTED A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN, OBVIOUSLY COMING UP AT A T INTERSECTION AT LONE TREE, A DEDICATED RIGHT AND DEDICATED LESS ARE EASIER IF YOU DON'T HAVE A THROUGH MOVEMENT TO ALSO CONTEND WITH.
AND WE ALSO HAD HEAVY VOLUMES GOING EASTBOUND, AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE REGIONAL MODEL, THAT'S OUR HEAVIEST VOLUME COMING THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION BASED ON PREDICTED VOLUMES.
AND THAT DOES WARRANT A DOUBLE LANE COMING THROUGH.
THERE WE ARE AT A DECISION POINT BETWEEN A SINGLE LANE AND DOUBLE LANE, BUT AGAIN, AS A REMINDER, THIS IS AN EIGHT ART FACILITY AND THEY HAVE MAINTAINED THAT THEY WILL REQUIRE A DOUBLE THROUGH WESTBOUND AT ALL TIMES FOR THIS INTERSECTION.
THEY WANT NO REDUCTION IN SERVICE THROUGH THEIR CORRIDOR FOR THIS INTERSECTION.
WESTBOUND NORTHBOUND THE WESTBOUND LANES ALSO HAVE HIGH ENOUGH VOLUMES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING A DOUBLE LEFT THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION.
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UM, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE LATER ON, WE WILL ALSO HAVE INTERSECTION LAYOUTS, WE HAVE TWO PROPOSED INTERSECTION TYPES FOR THIS INTERSECTION LATER ON.WE'LL WALK THROUGH THAT AND SOME OF THE PEDESTRIAN AND MULTIMODAL IMPACTS AS WELL LATER ON.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? I'M NOT SEEING ANY, YOU CAN GO AHEAD.
SO INTERSECTION SELECTION, YOU KNOW, EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, WE REALLY WANT TO BE INVOLVED, WE UNDERSTAND THE CITY, COMMUNITIES AND COMMISSION'S CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THESE INTERSECTIONS WILL ULTIMATELY LOOK AT LOOK LIKE IN THE MULTIMODAL IMPACTS AND HOW DO PEDESTRIANS USE THE INTERSECTION? HOW CYCLISTS USE THE INTERSECTION IS NOT JUST THE VEHICLES.
THIS HAS BEEN PART OF THE DESIGN TEAM'S THOUGHT PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING.
THERE IS A NATIONAL CODE THAT YOU'RE SEEING UP ON THE SCREEN THE DON'T GIVE UP AT THE INTERSECTION.
THIS IS A GUIDE ABOUT HOW WE ENHANCE SAFETY AND USABILITY OF INTERSECTIONS FROM A MULTIMODAL USER PERSPECTIVE.
WHEN I SAY MULTIMODAL, I'M REFERRING TO THE PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS WHO USE STREETS AND INTERSECTIONS TO GET AROUND.
SO IT'S RECOGNIZING THE INTERSECTIONS AND ROADWAYS ARE NOT JUST AUTOMOBILE USE USES, IT'S EVERYONE'S USING THESE.
SO THE INTERSECTION ON THE RIGHT, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR LONE TREE, BUT IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOME ENHANCEMENTS THAT COME OUT OF THIS GUIDE FROM THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CITY TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS.
SO BEFORE WE GET TO THE INTERSECTION EXAMPLES THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED FOR THIS PROJECT TO SORT OF WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE GUIDELINES AND EXAMPLES THAT COME FROM THIS GUIDE.
SO THERE ARE SEVERAL OPTIONS THAT THEY RECOMMEND TO ENHANCE USER SAFETY, A LOT OF THESE ARE.
WAYS TO ENHANCE VISIBILITY OF THE BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIAN USERS AT INTERSECTIONS.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A FIGURE STRAIGHT OUT OF THAT.
THAT GUIDELINE, SEVERAL THINGS YOU ARE SEEING HERE IS YOU GET STAGING AREAS WHERE YOU'RE SEPARATING PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS.
AND WE ALL KNOW BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS, USE INTERSECTIONS AND USE ROADWAYS DIFFERENTLY.
SO ONE THING NACTO TALKS ABOUT IS STAGING THEM SEPARATELY, THEY'RE GOING TO ENTER THE SIDEWALKS OR ENTER THE CROSSWALKS AT DIFFERENT SPEEDS.
THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO ENTER AT DIFFERENT TIMES AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S SHOWING HERE IS STAGING AREAS.
ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT COMES OUT OF THIS GUIDE IS TO SET THE STOPPING BARS FURTHER BACK FROM THE INTERSECTION WITH THE GOAL OF ENHANCING VISIBILITY OF THE USERS.
IF WE HAVE A STAGING AREA WHERE USERS CAN BE SEEN AND THE AUTOMOBILE USER CAN SEE THESE PEOPLE CROSSING MORE CLEARLY.
WE'RE NOT CHECKING JUST OFF THEIR LEFT WINDOW, BUT CAN SEE THAT THERE'S PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT.
THEY'RE ABOUT TO ENTER THE INTERSECTION.
THEY'RE MORE AWARE OF THEM AND ARE MORE LIKELY TO YIELD TO THEM.
THERE'S A COLORED CROSSING AND GUIDANCE SIGNING TO HELP USERS THROUGH THESE INTERSECTIONS.
THIS IS ALSO AN EXAMPLE OF PULLING CYCLISTS LIKE WE HAVE HERE, WHERE WE HAVE THE FOOT'S TRAIL AND THE NORTHBOUND BIKE LANE, WHERE WE ACTUALLY PULL THEM OFF THE THE ROADWAY SYSTEM AND GET THEM OFF TO THE SIDE OF THE STREETS AND KEEP THEM INTO THE INTERSECTIONS.
UM, SO THESE ARE SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME FROM THAT, FROM THAT UM, GUIDELINE, THERE'S ALSO THE, WITH THE ROUNDED CORNERS AND THESE ISLANDS, YOU ALSO GIVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR AUTOMOBILES TO POTENTIALLY Q AND YIELD PARTWAY INTO THE INTERSECTION IF THEY HAVE A SECONDARY USER COMING THROUGH AT A SEPARATE TIME.
SO THIS IS A FIGURE WE CONSIDER.
YOU'LL SEE LATER ON HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS INTO THESE INTERSECTIONS.
UM, IN PRACTICE, THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF THESE CONCEPTS YOU CAN SEE HERE, HERE'S A STRIPES STAGING AREA, SO IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE NECESSARILY A CONCRETE OR RAISE ISLAND.
AND THIS IS A STRIPED EXAMPLE, THIS COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR STRAIGHTENING ITS OPERATION SNOW REMOVAL, IF THAT'S A CONCERN, OR THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS TO PAY FOR A RAISED ISLAND.
UM CAN ALSO DO SPECIAL ENHANCED VISIBILITY SIDEWALKS, DIFFERENT TYPES OF SIDEWALKS THAT MAKE IT MORE VISIBLE.
WE TALK ABOUT A NORTHBOUND CYCLIST LANE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.
HAVING THAT CLEARLY SIGN SO USERS KNOW THAT IT'S NORTHBOUND ONLY WOULD HELP MINIMIZE IMPACTS FROM CYCLISTS USING IT THE WRONG WAY.
AND WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT UM, HAVING ISLANDS AND MEDIANS IN ADDITION TO THE STAGING AREAS OUT IN FRONT, IF WE DO HAVE A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE, THIS IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, THIS WOULD BE A STOP CONTROLLED RIGHT TURN LANE TO AGAIN PROTECT THE USERS IF THIS IS AN UNCONTROLLED, CONTINUOUS RIGHT.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS A DECISION WE'RE STILL TALKING IN DESIGN.
IT CAN LEAD TO POTENTIAL IMPACTS IF THIS USER AS A VEHICLE USERS IS EXPECTING
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TO STOP.THEY MAY NOT ALWAYS BE AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL MULTIMODAL USER COMING ACROSS.
AND THEN IF WE HAVE AN ISLAND OUT IN THE STREET, THIS NOW SHORTENS THE DISTANCE OF MULTI MODAL USER BICYCLIST OR PEDESTRIAN HAS TO CROSS INSTEAD OF CROSSING THREE LANES, THEY'RE NOT JUST CROSSING TWO LANES.
ENHANCES SAFETY BY SHORTENING THE CROSSING TIME OF THE ROADWAY.
WIDER MEDIANS PROVIDING A REFUGE AREA OUT IN THE CENTER TURN LANE, SO INSTEAD OF A FOUR OR SIX FOOT MEETING, YOU GO A LITTLE BIT WIDER AND PROVIDE A TRUE REFUGE AREA IF YOU HAVE USERS WHO CAN'T CROSS THE STREET ALL IN ONE SIGNAL PHASE.
AND WE HAVE SEPARATED BIKE LANES, WHICH I KNOW THERE'S DISCUSSIONS OF INSTALLING SOMETHING SIMILAR ALONG BUTLER.
WHERE YOU ACTUALLY PROTECT THE CYCLISTS AND USERS ON THE ROADWAY WHEN YOU'RE NOT SEPARATED OFF THE ROADWAY LIKE WE ARE HERE.
UM, SOME OTHER CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE NOT SHOWING HERE ALSO ENHANCED INTERSECTION SIGNALIZATION TO MAKE DRIVERS AWARE YOU CAN HAVE THE FLASHING BULBS OR HIGH VISIBILITY SIGNAL HEADS JUST TO MAKE DRIVERS AWARE THAT THERE'S A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION COMING UP.
UM, OPTIONS FOR THE VEHICLE USER THAT WE'VE CONSIDERED THIS INTERSECTION OR WHAT'S CALLED AN OFFSET LEFTS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE ARE THREE CONCEPTS, TRADITIONAL INTERSECTION HAS A NEGATIVE OFFSET.
WHAT THIS MEANS IS A USER, AS YOU'RE APPROACHING THE INTERSECTION YOU STORE TO THE RIGHT OF THE MEDIAN, YOUR VISIBILITY FOR ONCOMING TRAFFIC IS BLOCKED BY THE ONCOMING LEFT TURN.
YOU DON'T HAVE HIGH VISIBILITY, SO BY SHIFTING THIS LEFT TURN USER FURTHER AND FURTHER TO THE LEFT, YOU INCREASE VISIBILITY, SO WE'RE MOVING THE MEDIAN.
YOU GET A ZERO OFFSET MAY NOT BE IDEAL FOR MULTIMODAL USERS, THOUGH, BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE LOSING THE REFUGE.
WELL, WHAT IF WE LOOK AT A POSITIVE OFFSET? YOU KEEP THE MEDIAN, BUT NOW YOU SHIFT TO THE LEFT TURN USER ALL THE WAY TO WHERE THEIR DIRECT VISIBILITY IS ONCOMING USERS.
THIS HAS BEEN SHOWN TO REDUCE LEFT TURN TO ONCOMING MOVEMENT COLLISIONS JUST BECAUSE THEIR VISIBILITY IS BETTER.
SO THESE ARE ALL CONCEPTS WE'RE CONSIDERING FOR THESE INTERSECTIONS.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE CONCEPTS WE'VE ASKED FOR FEEDBACK FROM WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE COMMISSIONS AND LOOK FOR CONTINUING FEEDBACK AS WE PRESENT THIS TO MORE AND MORE FOLKS.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, YES, THANK YOU.
SO IN THE THIRD POSITIVE OFFSET, IF THERE IS A CYCLIST AT THAT INTERSECTION THAT WOULD LIKE TO TURN LEFT, WHERE ARE THEY? SO CYCLISTS COULD EITHER ENTER THE STREET AND JOIN INTO THE LEFT TURN LANE LIKE A NORMAL VEHICLE USER.
OR IN THE CASE OF LONE TREE, WHERE THEY'RE OUT ON THE THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, THEY WOULD CROSS IN THE CROSSWALK LIKE THEY NORMALLY WOULD WITH.
YOU KNOW, WITH THE PEDESTRIANS ARE CYCLISTS, AND YOU COULD HAVE A REFUGE ISLAND IN THE MEDIAN AND THEN DO A TWO STAGE CROSSING, OR YOU CAN DO A SINGLE STAGE CROSSING WITH THE TIMING.
SO IT BEHAVES JUST LIKE A NORMAL CROSSING, JUST YOUR MEETING HAS SHIFTED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LEFT TURN USERS.
UM, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE INTERSECTIONS THEMSELVES.
SO THESE ARE RENDERINGS OF THE INTERSECTIONS AT BUTLER AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO ROUTE 66.
SO WE DID CONSIDER SEVERAL INTERSECTION TYPES AT BUTLER AND LONE TREE.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS OUR RECOMMENDED INTERSECTION TYPE FOR BUTLER AND LONE TREE, WHICH IS A TRADITIONAL INTERSECTION.
AS CHRISTINE MENTIONED, WE ARE VERY EARLY ON IN THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE.
SO YOU ARE SEEING THE STRIPING, YOU ARE NOT SEEING THE SIGNALS, BUT THIS IS A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AT MILTON AND BUTLER.
SIMILAR SIZE, SIMILAR VOLUMES.
SO WHAT YOU SEE IN MILTON AND BUTLER TODAY IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WOULD SEE AT OR BUTLER AND LONE TREE.
SO AS YOU PICTURE THIS, TRY TO PICTURE THAT AS A COMPARATIVE INTERSECTION TYPE.
SOME OF THE OTHER INTERSECTIONS WE DID CONSIDER ARE ROUNDABOUTS.
WE ALSO CONSIDERED A MICHIGAN LEFT, WHICH IS WHERE YOU GO THROUGH THE INTERSECTION AND THEN MAKE A U-TURN TO MAKE IT SORT OF AN INDIRECT LEFT.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT DISPLACE LEFT AND RESTRICTED U-TURNS.
THOSE WERE DISCARDED DUE TO POOR OPERATIONS, PLUS IT REQUIRED MORE RIGHT AWAY THAN A TRADITIONAL INTERSECTION.
AND WITH THE BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY ON THIS NORTHEAST CORNER THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE, JUST THE RIGHT OF WAY IMPACTS, WE DISCARDED THOSE IS JUST UNFAVORABLE UNVIABLE FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
SO IF I'M SEEING THIS CORRECTLY, IS THERE A POTENTIAL CYCLIST PEDESTRIAN CONFLICT AT EACH CORNER? SO THIS CURRENTLY IS JUST TO ORIENT YOU.
WE GOT BUTLER GOING LEFT OR RIGHT AND LONE TREE GOING NORTH SOUTH.
THIS IS A LARGE ENOUGH STAGING AREA TO WHERE, AND THIS ISN'T FULLY DEVELOPED
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AGAIN, BUT WE WOULD STAGE THE CYCLISTS AND THE PEDESTRIANS SEPARATELY.THE CYCLISTS WOULD USE THE GREEN MARKED CROSSWALKS.
AND THE PEDESTRIANS USE THE WHITE MARKED CROSSWALKS, SO WE'RE KEEPING OUR CYCLISTS AND OUR PEDESTRIANS SEPARATE, SO THE WAY THERE ARE NO CONFLICTS BETWEEN USER TYPES WHEN YOU CAN SORT OF SEE HERE TO THE RIGHT IS BUTLER BECAUSE CYCLISTS ARE ON STREET ON BUTLER.
THEY WOULD ACTUALLY COME OFF THE STREET OR THEY ACTUALLY STAY ON THE STREET, GOING EAST WEST AND CROSS THE INTERSECTION AS NORMAL.
THERE IS A PROPOSAL IN ONE OF THE LATER SLIDES WHERE WE COULD PULL THEM OFF THE STREET, POTENTIALLY AND STAGE THEM.
ON NORTH SOUTH, THEY WOULD COME UP ON THE FOOTE'S TRAIL OR ON THE NORTHBOUND.
THEY WOULD STAGE HERE AND THEN CROSS ON THE THE GREEN STRIPE SIDEWALK AND THEN CONTINUE ON THE FOOT'S TRAIL.
SO THEY ARE CROSSING AT THE SAME TIME NEARBY EACH OTHER, BUT IN SEPARATE CROSSWALKS.
SO IF A PEDESTRIAN MADE IT HALFWAY ACROSS LIKE HE IN THIS PICTURE, HE COULD MAKE IT ACROSS FOUR LANES.
AND THEN IF THE LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, WERE GETTING READY TO GO RED OR SOMETHING, HE MIGHT JUST STAY THERE IN THE MIDDLE.
IS WITH THAT MEDIAN BE WIDE ENOUGH TO SAY A BICYCLE COULD? YOU KNOW, STAY THERE AND NOT HAVE IT'S.
UH, FRONT OR BACK TIRE, BE HIT BY TRAFFIC.
IN OTHER WORDS, I GUESS I'M SAYING HOW WIDE IS THAT? IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY COULD STOP HALFWAY ACROSS.
THAT'S A LOT OF LANES TO GET ACROSS.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE STILL EVALUATING IS OUR MEDIAN WIDTH FOR BEING A REFUGE ISLAND.
SO WHEN I REFER TO A REFUGEE ISLAND AS ME, A CERTAIN WIDTH TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO FEEL SAFE, STAYING THERE AS WE DEVELOP THE INTERSECTION TYPES FURTHER AND WE LOOK AT PEDESTRIAN TIMING, WE CAN ACTUALLY FIGURE OUT BASED ON SOME INFORMATION WE HAVE IF THEY'RE LIKELY TO CROSS IN ONE PHASE OR MULTIPLE PHASES.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WE APPROACH FINAL DESIGN.
I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING THE POSITIVE OFFSET.
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT SNOW PLOWING OPERATIONS? YEAH, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THE I UNDERSTAND THE BENEFITS OF HAVING THAT POSITIVE OFFSET WITH VISIBILITY, BUT HOW IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT OUR SNOW PLOWING? YEAH.
SO THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE WITH THE CITY.
WE ARE STARTING TO TALK SNOW PLOW OPERATIONS FOR ALL THESE OPTIONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT, AND THERE'S SOME OTHER ONES THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE THE SAME QUESTION.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE STARTING TO EXPLORE AS WE GO FROM SCHEMATIC DESIGN TO FINAL DESIGN.
SO I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER YET.
THERE ARE THERE ARE WAYS TO STRIPE IN THE POSITIVE OFFSETS VERSUS A RAISED MEDIAN.
BUT AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO THE REFUGE ISLAND.
DO YOU FEEL SAFE IN A STRIPE VERSUS A RAISED MEDIAN? MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL WORK THROUGH WITH OUR CITY COUNTERPARTS AS WE DEVELOP FURTHER CONCEPTS OF HOW DO THESE OPERATIONS WORK TOGETHER? EXCELLENT.
AND I WILL SAY THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED A MEDIAN IN THERE, JUST A MATTER OF LOOKING AT THIS LOCATION AND HOW IT AFFECTS SNOW SO.
AND SO THIS IS THE EAGLE EYE VIEW, AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.
SO IF YOU'RE STANDING ON THIS CORNER, THIS IS SORT OF A PEDESTRIAN, LOOK WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
SO YOU'LL SEE THE NORTH SOUTH ON THE EAST SIDE AGAIN, NO MEETINGS, WE WERE RECOMMENDING THE DOUBLE LEFT, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT'S A CONTINUOUS CROSS CROSSING MOVEMENT AND THIS DOES NOT HAVE A REFUGE ISLAND AS WE'RE CURRENTLY SHOWING IT.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT FINAL, THIS IS SCHEMATIC.
YOU DO SEE YOU HAVE THE REFUGE ISLAND ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE NORTHWEST AND ON THE EAST WEST CROSSING.
THAT'S WHAT A PEDESTRIAN VIEWPOINT WOULD BE OF THIS INTERSECTION.
AND AGAIN, NO SIGNALS ARE SHOWN, NO POLLS ARE SHOWN.
WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET, AND DESIGN AND RENDERING IN.
PEDESTRIAN LOOKS LIKE HE'S SCRATCHING HIS HEAD THERE.
IT LOOKS VERY CONFUSING AND INTIMIDATING.
ARE WE OR HAVE WE CONSIDERED OFF GRADE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AT ALL? LIKE A PEDESTRIAN TUNNEL OVERPASS.
HAS THAT EVER BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION? UM.
NOT REALLY YET, WE ARE AN EARLY DESIGN.
I MEAN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO LOOK AT ONE OF US TO LOOK AT, WE COULD.
THERE ARE RIGHT AWAY NEEDS FOR A SEPARATION.
THERE ARE BUDGETARY NEEDS FOR SEPARATION, BUT THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
THIS JUST DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A VERY PEDESTRIAN OR BIKE FRIENDLY INTERSECTION TO ME.
I'M JUST SHARING MY THOUGHTS OUT LOUD IN REAL TIME.
AND JUST ADD SOME THOUGHTS TO THAT, JUST FROM WHAT CHRISTINE SAID, SO
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PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS DO HAVE VERTICAL CLEARANCE ISSUES OF 17 SIX HIGH CEILING TO GET LANDINGS UP, SO THEY DO TEND TO HAVE PRETTY LONG LANDING REQUIREMENTS.SO IF IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE DIRECTED TO LOOK AT, WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT, BUT.
I JUST SPENT THE WEEK IN WASHINGTON, D.C., AS NEVER ONCE IN A CAR AND I NEVER APPROACHED AN INTERSECTION THERE AND HAD SUCH TREPIDATION AS I DO FOR THAT POOR GUY WITH HIS HAT STANDING THERE AT THE CORNER.
NOW AND THEN, THAT'S WHY IT'S THE ONE THING WE WANT TO PRESENT, SO THIS IS THE SAME INTERSECTION WITH SOME OF THOSE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE PULLED FROM THE DON'T GIVE UP ON THE INTERSECTIONS.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS WE'RE ADDING A REFUGE ISLANDS, A LARGE WE'RE PULLING THE RIGHT TURN LANE.
THIS SHORTENS THE CROSSING, AT LEAST ON ONE SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION.
UM, WE'RE PULLING BICYCLISTS OFF THE ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE.
WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT PULLING THEM OFF ON THE SOUTH SIDE AS WELL, BUT WE'RE ONLY SHOWING IT CURRENTLY ON THE NORTH SIDE.
SO THIS IS ONE APPROACH WE CAN USE TO GET THAT FEELING OF TREPIDATION OUT A LITTLE BIT BY SHORTENING THESE CROSSINGS.
SO NOW WE'RE IN THE THREE CROSSINGS POTENTIALLY.
THE DISTANCES ARE A LOT SHORTER, SO YOU HAVE A LOT MORE, A LOT HIGHER FEELING OF SAFETY, BECAUSE YOU'RE INSTEAD OF CROSSING THREE OR FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC, YOU'RE NOW CROSSING JUST ONE AND THEN TWO AND THEN THREE, SO IT'S BROKEN UP.
FOR THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION, WE ARE ONLY SHOWING IT ON THE WEST SIDE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN EXISTING BUILDING ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER.
SO WE'RE LIMITED HERE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THE NORTHWEST CORNER, WE HAVE POTENTIALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE SAME THING BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE POTENTIAL TAKES, WE HAVEN'T FULLY IDENTIFIED WHAT'S GOING ON WITH BOTH OF THESE.
THERE'S TWO PARCELS RIGHT HERE.
SO WE HAVEN'T FULLY TOUCHED THAT CORNER AND THEN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.
WE'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING AT THIS TIME.
BUT WE DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF INTERSECTION ENHANCEMENTS WE CAN DO WITH A FOCUS ON MULTIMODAL USERS.
AND TO BE FAIR, THIS DOES STRIKE ME AS AN IMPROVEMENT ALREADY.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI HAS A QUESTION.
SO I ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE THE INTENTION HERE WITH THIS, WITH THIS ENHANCED DESIGN.
IT DEFINITELY MAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE.
BUT WHEN I ZOOM IN, AM I CORRECT IN COUNTING SEVEN LANES OF TRAFFIC AS SOME OF THESE DIRECTIONS? YOU'RE MAX LANES OF TRAFFIC WOULD BE ON THIS EASTERN LEG, WHICH HAS TWO THROUGHS EASTBOUND, TWO LEFT TURN LANES WESTBOUND, TWO THRU LANES WESTBOUND AND A DEDICATED RIGHT, I BELIEVE WESTBOUND.
SO THAT WOULD BE YOUR SEVEN CORRECT, THE EASTERN LEG.
AND THEN LOOKING TO LOOKING TO THE RIGHT WHERE THAT RIGHT HAND TURN GOES, I ALSO COUNT SEVEN THERE AS WELL, GOING TOWARDS THE UPPER PART OF THE I THINK THAT'S THE NORTHERN END HEADING NORTH.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SEVEN AS WELL FOUR OR FIVE SIX.
THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, SEVEN ON THE NORTH SIDE, YES.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WE'RE NOT SAYING THREE AND FOUR LANES.
YOU KNOW, COUNCIL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIX SEVEN LANES AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY SEVEN LANE INTERSECTIONS IN THE CITY.
WE MIGHT, DO WE DO WE KNOW? PRETTY SURE FOURTH IS THE OTHER BIGGEST, AND THAT'S SIX LANES, I WANT TO SAY IN EACH DIRECTION.
ANYWAYS, WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THIS LATER.
I JUST WAS A LITTLE BIT SHOCKED TO SEE SEVEN LANES.
THANKS, JEFF BOWMAN, CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
FOURTH AND 66 IS SEVEN LANES ON ALL LEGS.
AND HERE'S A VIEW OF THE SAME ONE.
UM, CAN'T QUITE SEE THAT MEDIAN ISLAND.
WE WILL GET A NEW RENDERING, PROBABLY STANDING FROM THE OTHER CORNER.
HOPEFULLY SOON, SO WE'LL GET THAT ADDED LIKELY TO THE WEBSITE SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE SITTING OVER THERE.
UM, SO FOR ROUTE 66 AND LONE TREE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO VIABLE INTERSECTIONS WE IDENTIFIED.
THIS IS A CONVENTIONAL INTERSECTION, SO SAME WHEN I SAY CONVENTIONAL SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION.
AND THEN WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE FLORIDA T.
WE DID ALSO HAVE SOME NON-VIABLE INTERSECTIONS, WE DID CONSIDER A ROUNDABOUT AT THIS LOCATION BASED ON THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC WE ARE BORDERLINE BEFORE A ROUNDABOUT BREAKS DOWN.
AND BECAUSE IT WAS A BORDERLINE FUNCTIONALITY, JUST DO THE VOLUMES, AND BECAUSE IT TOOK SO MUCH ADDITIONAL PROPERTY, IT WAS DISCARDED IN DISCUSSIONS WITH ADOT IS
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NON-VIABLE.SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT SEEING THAT HERE.
UM, BUT THAT DID LEAVE US WITH TWO OF THE FLORIDA T, THE CONVENTIONAL INTERSECTION, THE CONVENTIONAL INTERSECTION WILL BEHAVE IS LIKE A SIMILAR INTERSECTION COMING NORTHBOUND.
YOU HAVE A DOUBLE LEFT, A DOUBLE RIGHT RECOMMENDED.
YOU GOT TO THROUGH EASTBOUND WITH A DEDICATED RIGHT.
AGAIN, WE RECOMMEND THIS BE A SIGNALIZED RIGHT, NOT A CONTINUOUS RIGHT, JUST TO HELP FACILITATE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLIST SAFETY THAT ARE USING THIS CROSSING.
AND YOU HAVE TO THROUGH LEFT WESTBOUND LANES AND A DOUBLE LEFT TO SOUTHBOUND MOVEMENT, THAT'S ITS HOUR BASED ON THE VOLUMES, THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDED LAYOUT.
WE ALSO HAVE A FLORIDA-T, THE WAY THIS BEHAVES DIFFERENTLY THAN A CONVENTIONAL INTERSECTION IS THE WESTBOUND THROUGH MOVEMENTS DON'T STOP.
THEY WOULD RUN CONTINUOUS AND YOUR NORTHBOUND LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS WOULD THEN TURN INTO A MERGE LANE.
SO THERE'S A MEDIAN THAT SEPARATES THE WESTBOUND THROUGH MOVEMENTS WITH THE LEFT TURN NORTHBOUND, THE WESTBOUND MOVEMENT, AND THEY EVENTUALLY MERGE FURTHER TO THE WEST OF THIS INTERSECTION.
UM OPERATIONALLY THIS BEHAVES SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN CONVENTIONAL INTERSECTION.
UM, WESTBOUND WOULD ONLY STOP WHEN THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN THAT ACTIVATES A CROSSING SIGNAL AT THIS LOCATION.
UM, THIS WAS PRESENTED TO ADOT AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
HOWEVER, BASED ON THE DIFFERENT SCORING DATA, IT'S NOT JUST ON LEVEL OF SERVICE, IT'S ALSO ABOUT USABILITY, FAMILIARITY, ABOUT POTENTIAL CONFLICT RESOLUTION.
THE CONVENTIONAL INTERSECTION WAS RATED WITH A HIGHER SCORE OVERALL AFTER THE INTERSECTION ANALYSIS AND WAS PRESENTED AS THE RECOMMENDED INTERSECTION TYPE.
WE JUST GOT OUR COMMENTS BACK LAST WEEK FROM ADOT, AND THEY AGREED WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CONVENTIONAL INTERSECTION OVER THE FLORIDA-T, BUT THESE WERE BOTH PRESENTED.
THE MAIN CONCERNS OF THE FLORIDA-T WERE DRIVER FAMILIARITY WITH THE FLORIDA-T .
IT WOULD BE THE FIRST INTERSECTION OF ITS KIND IN FLAGSTAFF.
UM, ALSO, BECAUSE WESTBOUND TRAFFIC ONLY STOPS WHEN IT'S ACTIVATED BY A PEDESTRIAN.
IT'S INFREQUENT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ON A NORMAL CYCLE, AND IT CAN LEAD TO SOME REAR END COLLISIONS JUST TO THE FREQUENCY OF WHEN IT MIGHT BE TRIGGERED.
YOU ALSO POTENTIALLY LOSE, WELL YOU DO LOSE THE BOTH THE WESTBOUND OR EAST AND WEST CROSSINGS.
YOU CAN'T HAVE AN EAST SIDE CROSSING AT THIS INTERSECTION JUST BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK WITH THE DOUBLE MOVEMENTS OR THE CONTINUOUS MOVEMENT FOR BECAUSE OF THIS, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE [INAUDIBLE] INTERSECTION, BUT DID WANT TO PRESENT BOTH INTERSECTION TYPES TO YOU THIS EVENING.
AND WE DID DEVELOP SCHEMATIC DESIGNS FOR BOTH INTERSECTIONS, SO YOU CAN GET A BETTER IDEA OF HOW IT LOOKS FROM A USER'S PERSPECTIVE, SO THIS IS AN EAGLE EYE OF THE FLORIDA-T.
THIS DOES NOT HAVE ANY OF THE PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS WE WERE SHOWING, BUT ALL THE CONCEPTS WE SHOWED PREVIOUSLY AT BUTLER, SIMILAR CONCEPTS CAN BE APPLIED HERE.
AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS ROUTE 66 IS BEING SHOWN UP AND DOWN IN THIS FIGURE AND THEN YOU GOT LONE TREE COMING IN FROM THE RIGHT.
YOU GOT YOUR WESTBOUND MOVEMENT CONTINUOUS AND YOU CAN IMAGINE YOUR LONE TREE LEFT TURN LANE COMING INTO THIS MERGE LANE HEADED IT OFF THE BOTTOM OF YOUR PICTURE.
PEDESTRIANS WOULD CROSS YOU GOT SEVERAL REFUGE ISLANDS, BUT YOU ARE CROSSING AT THIS POINT SIX LANES THROUGH SEVERAL NARROW MEDIANS GOING BACK TO YOUR REFUGE ISLAND QUESTION.
THE WIDTH OF THESE MEETINGS WILL HAVE TO BE EVALUATED DURING A FINAL DESIGN TO MAKE SURE PEDESTRIAN TIMING AND THE WIDTHS OF THE REFUGE ISLANDS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR USERS.
RIGHT TURN LANES WOULD BE AND THEN THE RIGHT TURN LANES LEFT NORTHBOUND LESS AND WESTBOUND LESS WOULD ALL BE SIGNALIZED.
SO YOU'RE AGAIN NOT SEEING THE SIGNALIZATION.
BUT EVERYTHING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN IS A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION, ONLY THE WESTBOUND WOULD NOT BE SIGNALIZED, EXCEPT FOR THE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVATED.
SO NORTHBOUND PERSON, THERE'S TWO LEFT.
IF YOU'RE GOING NORTH AND WANT TO TURN WEST, THERE'S TWO LANES, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO THAT MERGE IN LANE WOULD HAVE TO BE A DOUBLE LANE TOO.
OH NO, I'M SORRY ON THE FLORIDA- T, WE ONLY HAD A SINGLE LEFT TURN LANE.
BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS OPERATES.
AND JOE, IF YOU'RE STILL ON THE LINE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY WE ONLY HAD A SINGLE LEFT RECOMMENDED FOR FLORIDA-T? YEAH, STILL ON THE LINE.
AND A SINGLE LEFT IS JUST BECAUSE IT'S MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE SIGNAL TIMING THERE.
THERE'D BE MORE GREEN TIME ON THAT MOVEMENT TO ALLOW A SINGLE LANE TO WORK.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THE WESTBOUND TIMING AND YOUR SIGNAL
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PHASING.YOU GET A LONGER LEFT TURN TIMING.
RIGHT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE PREFERRED INTERSECTION TYPE AT THIS POINT.
HERE'S AN EAGLE EYE PERSPECTIVE IF YOU WERE STANDING ON THIS CORNER, THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.
SO YOU'RE SEEING THAT WEST SIDE CROSSING HERE.
YOU'RE SEEING THE RIGHT IN THE RIGHT TURN LANE HERE, THE NARROW REFUGE ISLANDS AT THIS POINT AND THEN THE EAST WEST CROSSING HERE.
THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU'RE SEEING.
I HAVE TO GO TO THE TRADITIONAL INTERSECTION.
YOU ARE SEEING SOME MINOR ENHANCEMENTS, YOU ARE SEEING THIS REFUGE ISLAND HERE SEPARATING THE RIGHT TURN LANE FROM THE THREE MOVEMENTS.
I'LL SEE YOU IN THE BIKE LANE WITH THE COLORED SIDEWALK JUST FOR HIGH VISIBILITY FOR THEM.
UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE SIGNALIZATION, BUT THIS WOULD BEHAVE VERY SIMILAR TO THE BUTLER AND LONE TREE INTERSECTION WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT ONLY IT'S A T INTERSECTION.
AND THEN YOU GOT YOUR ROUTE 66 GOING TOP TO BOTTOM, GET YOUR OWN TREE COMING IN FROM THE RIGHT.
WE ARE SHOWING CROSSWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE INTERSECTION.
ADOT HAS MADE A COMMENT THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR OR THEY MAY NOT WANT CROSSWALKS ON BOTH SIDES.
THAT IS AN ISSUE JUST THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WITH ADOT IF THEY'LL ALLOW CROSSWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS INTERSECTION.
VISIBILITY STANDPOINT, THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IS YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE A BIGGER REFUGE ISLAND WITH THIS CONCEPT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO SQUEEZE IN THAT EXTRA MERGE LANE.
UM, SO YOU GET A LITTLE BIT BIGGER REFUGE ISLAND COMING OFF THIS RIGHT TURN LANE.
SO ONE OTHER THING WE DID LOOK AT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL WAS THE IMPACT OF GREENHOUSE GASES.
UM, WE DID LOOK AT THE IMPACTS ON OPENING YEAR AND THEN PROJECTED OUT TO YEAR 2040, SO I'LL TRY TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE TABLE.
SO THE FIRST COLUMN HERE IS A SUMMATION OF THE TOTAL SAVINGS, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE SEEING A NUMBER NOT IN FRONT OF THE [INAUDIBLE] IT'S A SAVINGS.
BETWEEN THE YEARS, 2026 AND 2040.
SO WITH THE ADDITION OF LONE TREE ROAD, OUR ECONOMISTS IS PREDICTING A SAVINGS OF ALMOST ONE POINT NINE MILLION GALLONS OF FUEL OR SEVENTEEN THOUSAND TONS OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
WHAT THESE PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON, THERE ARE SEVERAL FACTORS THAT GO INTO THESE PROJECTIONS.
THE MAIN THING IS, AS WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, CURRENTLY THERE'S ONLY ONE GRADE SEPARATED CROSSING WITH BNSF.
THIS IS PROVIDING A SECOND GRADE SEPARATED CROSSING.
THE OTHER GRADE SEPARATED CROSSINGS ARE ALL AT GRADE AND HAVE TO STOP, SO ONE OF THE BIG FACTORS IS ONCE WE GET A SECOND GRADE SEPARATION, WE LOSE ALL THAT IDLING TIME WHENEVER A TRAIN COMES BY.
ANOTHER BIG FACTOR IS, AS WE ADD THIS ARTERIAL OF ROADWAY TO THE NETWORK, SPEEDS TEND TO IMPROVE.
CARS OPERATE THEIR MOST EFFICIENTLY BETWEEN 30 AND 45, 50 MILES PER HOUR, SO AS VEHICULAR SPEEDS GENERALLY IMPROVE WITH LESS CONGESTION THROUGH THE ROADWAY NETWORK, YOU GET IMPROVED PERFORMANCE AND YOU GET A REDUCTION IN GREENHOUSE GASES.
ANOTHER COMPONENT THAT WAS INCORPORATED INTO THIS MODEL IS JUST OVERALL VEHICULAR EMISSIONS IMPROVEMENTS, SO THAT'S NOT DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTABLE TO THIS PROJECT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SEEN REGARDLESS OF THE PROJECT, BUT IT WAS BROUGHT IN TO THESE NUMBERS.
THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN COMPONENTS THAT YOU'RE SEEING.
SO THE OPENING YEAR, SO JUST TO GIVE A COMPARISON AND TO SHOW WHERE THESE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM, JUST BASED ON THE IMPROVEMENTS OF HAVING THE SECOND GRADE SEPARATION AND HAVING IMPROVED EFFICIENCY OF THE SPEED OF THROUGH THE NETWORK.
WE ARE PREDICTING AN IMPROVEMENT OF ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY THOUSAND GALLONS OF FUEL A YEAR.
THIS DOES TEND TO FALL OFF BY 2040 TO WHERE WE LOSE ALL THE GAINS BY 2040 AND THIS IS JUST AS THE PROJECTED VOLUME OF TRAFFIC GOES UP.
OUR MODELS WERE BASED ON THE MILTON CORRIDOR STUDY THAT DID HAVE ANNUAL GROWTH.
WE DID NOT HOLD A ZERO GROWTH MODEL FOR TRAFFIC VOLUMES.
AS THE QUARTER AS THE TRAFFIC VOLUME GOES UP, CONGESTION GOES UP AND OUR SPEED SAVINGS TEND TO GO DOWN.
WE START TO LOSE OUR SAVINGS YEAR OVER YEAR, SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THIS 2040 ANNUAL.
BY 2040, WE TEND TO LOSE ANY GAINS WE GOT BY 2026, BUT OVER THIS 14 YEAR PERIOD, SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS ON THE AVERAGE SAVINGS PER YEAR, ONE HUNDRED TWENTY SIX THOUSAND GALLONS OF FUEL.
OR 11 HUNDRED? WE DID ALSO LOOK AT A SCENARIO AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY.
WHAT IF WE REDUCED LONE TREE FROM FOUR LANES TO TWO LANES? SO WE RAN OUR MODEL WITH THAT REDUCTION? WE DON'T GET AS MUCH OF A REDISTRIBUTION OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NETWORK BECAUSE
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NOT AS MANY USERS CAN GO OVER TO LONE TREE TO USE IT.SO WE DON'T GET AS BIG OF A SAVINGS OF SPEED IMPROVEMENTS AND REDUCTION IN CONGESTION AT THE OPENING YEAR.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS OUR SAVINGS AT THE OPENING YEAR GO FROM TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO THOUSAND.
WE ACTUALLY HAD AN INCREASE OF.
WE STILL HAD SOME IMPROVEMENTS 2040.
OVERALL, WE STILL HAD A LESS OVERALL GALLONS REDUCED.
ON THE HORIZON, A YEAR TO 2040, AND WE DID SHOW BY 2047, JUST BY THE TREND DATA, THIS WOULD ALSO BECOME NEGATIVE AND YOU'D LOSE ALL GAINS FROM THE TWO YEAR SCENARIO.
AND EVEN AT 2047, YOU'RE STILL NOT HAVING AS MUCH SAVINGS AS YOU DO WITH THE FOUR LANE SCENARIO.
SO I'LL SORT OF SIT THERE AND SEE YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS.
YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION ON THIS.
DOES THIS INCLUDE THE AMOUNT OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IN THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION? NO, THIS IS JUST..
SO THE YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THE CONCRETE THAT HOW MUCH GAS IT OR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FROM MAKING CONCRETE BUILDING THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE.
SOPHIE, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT.
CONSTRUCTION WAS NOT INCLUDED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR.
OH, YES, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.
YES, QUICK QUESTION ON THIS, I REALLY DO STRUGGLE WITH THE SLIDE FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
I DO APPRECIATE THE INTENT OF TALKING ABOUT THE DATA HERE IN REGARDS TO GREENHOUSE GASES AND IN OUR, YOU KNOW, CARBON NEUTRALITY PLANS.
BUT OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN STATES THAT WE WILL HOLD VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED STEADY AT 2019 LEVELS, EVEN AMIDST COMMUNITY GROWTH.
AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS AT SOME POINT IN THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT ON THE PRESENTATION, CAN WE GET NICOLE OR SOMEONE FROM SUSTAINABILITY TO SPEAK TO THE CONFLICTING, I THINK, MESSAGING THAT I'M HEARING REGARDING 2040 PROJECTED NUMBERS AND THE GOALS OF THE CLIMATE NEUTRALITY PLAN? I THINK THIS SLIDE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, BUT I'LL LET YOU DETERMINE THAT.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, MAYBE WE'LL SAVE THAT FOR THE END.
LET'S GET THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE CAN ADD ON THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, SO.
AND I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO CHRISTINE, AND I'LL WALK THROUGH THE PROJECT ESTHETICS PORTION.
SO AS WE ARE GETTING TO THE END OF THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN, OUR BASE DESIGN, WE ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT PROJECT ESTHETICS FOR THE BRIDGE AND FOR THE LANDSCAPING BEAUTIFICATION ELEMENTS.
THERE ARE SOME AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY ON THE BRIDGE.
ONE OF THEM IS A RAILING TREATMENTS.
THIS TOP SLIDE HERE IS JUST COMING OFF THE BRIDGE, GOING SOUTH WHERE YOU STILL HAVE RAILING ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OVER THE BNSF CORRIDOR.
THIS AREA HERE TO THE RIGHT IS THE FOOTE'S TRAIL THAT GOES UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE.
AGAIN, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY FOR RAILING TREATMENTS.
AND THIS BOTTOM LEFT IS AN EXAMPLE THAT WE DESIGN GROUP, OUR DESIGN CONSULTANTS PROVIDED FOR A PROJECT DOWN SOUTH.
AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AGAIN, WE COULD INTEGRATE INTO THE BRIDGE AS THE MAYOR COUNCIL, THE COMMUNITY KIND OF WEIGHS IN ON THESE ESTHETIC ITEMS. THE OTHER AREA, WE HAVE ARE GATEWAY TREATMENTS.
AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT KIND OF THE BRIDGE AT BUTLER AND ROUTE 66 KIND OF SETS US UP NICELY FOR FOR A GREAT GATEWAY TREATMENT.
MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING AS YOU'RE GOING INTO THE SOUTH SIDE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S TOWER OR OBELISK OR ANY OF THESE IDEAS.
AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF IN THE PRELIMINARY STAGES ON THIS.
THIS WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC AND TO COUNCIL BY OUR DESIGN CONSULTANTS AND BEAUTIFICATION STAFF AND WITH THE GUIDANCE FROM BPAC, BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSION.
AND THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITY FOR WALL TREATMENTS ON THE SIDES OF THE BRIDGES, WHETHER THAT BE A PATTERN OR A RENDERING OR ESTHETIC.
AND WE ALSO HAVE WITH THE LONE TREE PROJECT, WE ARE CONSIDERING THE FUTURE CIVIC SPACE FOR THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY.
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THERE'S AN AREA UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE AT THE ELDEN CORRIDOR THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD AREA TO TARGET FOR FOR SOME IMPROVEMENTS FOR ESTHETICS.AND AGAIN, THERE'S THIS DETENTION AREA HERE THAT COULD BE KIND OF EXPANDED INTO A PARK IN THE AREA, BUT ALSO PROVIDE A CANVAS ON THE BACK WALL FOR SOME ESTHETIC TREATMENT.
I DID GRAB TWO SLIDES OUT OF THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN, THE KIND OF SHOWS SHOWS THE SAME AREA.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING WITH THIS PROJECT IS WE'RE ELIMINATING THESE FILL SLOPES ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BRIDGE, AND THOSE ARE BECOMING RETAINING WALLS.
SO IT'S JUST TO RECAPTURE AS MUCH PROPERTY AS WE CAN IN ORDER TO TO DEDICATE THAT TO FUTURE CIVIC SPACE ONCE THAT IS PROGRAMED AND FUNDED.
AND THIS IS THE EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS THE BASKETBALL COURT WITH THE ALDON LOOP, THE BASKETBALL COURTS WOULDN'T NECESSARILY FIT FULLY UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE.
BUT YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN THE INTENT OF THE SOUTH SIDE'S SOUTHSIDE COMMUNITY PLAN AND PROVIDE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS GENERAL AREA.
SO FOR OUR PATH FORWARD AGAIN, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF PRELIMINARY DESIGN, EARLY DATA COLLECTION.
SINCE FEBRUARY, WE'VE HAD PUBLIC MEETINGS AND OUTREACH.
WE'RE GOING TO BE STEPPING IN TO HOPEFULLY BE BACK HERE IN NOVEMBER WITH A FULL DESIGN CONTRACT AND TAKING YOUR IDEAS AND INTEGRATING THOSE AND KEEP GOING UNTIL DECEMBER OF 2022.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY IN 2023, WE'D BE READY FOR PROJECT CONSTRUCTION.
WE ALSO HAVE A PROJECT WEBSITE, LONE TREE OVERPASS, DOT ORG, AND THIS JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE FIRST SCREEN WHERE YOU HAVE TABS TO LEARN ABOUT THE PROJECT, LEARN ABOUT THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.
WE'VE GOT A VIRTUAL PUBLIC MEETING ROOM.
THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT WAS DONE FOR THE RED FLAG THAT HAS EXHIBIT BOARDS DOCUMENTS POSTED THERE.
WE'VE GOT FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND DOCUMENTS AND THEN CONTACT INFORMATION.
AND WE DO HAVE AN ONLINE SURVEY THROUGH SURVEY MONKEY IN ENGLISH AND IN SPANISH FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TO GO IN AND FILL OUT AND PROVIDE US FEEDBACK, AND MY INFORMATION IS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE WITH MY MY WEB ADDRESS OR MY EMAIL ADDRESS AND MY PHONE NUMBER.
AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION FOR TONIGHT.
EXCELLENT, THANK YOU, COUNSEL.
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AS WELL, SO WE CAN DO THAT FIRST, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY DIRECT QUESTIONS AS OPPOSED TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. WE CAN ADD THAT IN NOW.
YEAH, WE CAN ENTERTAIN THE QUESTIONS FOR SUSTAINABILITY IF YOU LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI THIS TIME.
YEAH, I THINK THIS HAS TO BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THAT.
OK, SO SEE, WE HAVE JODI NEEMAN FROM OUR SUSTAINABILITY.
SO JODI I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IN REGARDS TO SUSTAINABILITY THROUGH THE LENS OF SUSTAINABILITY WHEN LOOKING AT THIS BRIDGE AND THINKING ABOUT IT THROUGH OUR CLIMATE NEUTRALITY PLANS, I GUESS WHAT IS IT OVERLAP WITH WITH THE DOCUMENT AND THE DATA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE? DOES THIS OVERLAP WITH WITH THE PLAN WE NEED A STAKE TO? I JUST KNOW THAT OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN SPEAKS TO 2019 DATA IN TERMS OF VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING QUITE A BIT ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT HERE.
SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST KIND OF SHARE SOME THOUGHTS IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT AT LARGE.
AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RIGHT THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO SUSTAINABILITY AND MEASURING THE PROGRESS AND EFFICIENCY OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO CARBON NEUTRALITY.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, JENNY LUHMAN, CLIMATE PROGRAM MANAGER IN THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
I WILL ATTEMPT TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF PARTS OF IT.
IT WAS A BIT BROAD, BUT SO FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT STEP IN THE SLIDE HERE.
WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE THIS NECESSARILY FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS BEFORE.
AND SO I'LL SAY THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED.
KRISTINA'S BEEN REALLY FANTASTIC ABOUT BRINGING US INTO THIS PROJECT AND
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HELPING US LOOK AT THIS.WE'VE TALKED TO THE CONSULTING TEAM, JASON, THANKS TO YOU AND SOPHIE, YOU KNOW, TO THINK THROUGH THIS.
SO I WANT TO JUST SAY FIRST, THIS IS A REALLY BIG STEP FOR US.
IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE EMISSIONS OF ALL OF OUR ACTIONS ACROSS THE CITY, RIGHT, PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY RELATE TO TRANSPORTATION.
YOU ASKED ABOUT SORT OF HOW THIS RELATES TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.
THIS IS MAINLY IN THE DECREASE DEPENDENCE ON CARS SECTION RIGHT.
SO THAT REALLY COVERS TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE BECAUSE THEY ARE SO CONNECTED TOGETHER.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY MORE CONNECTED ON THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE AS IT'S TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND BUT THE POINT OF THAT SECTION IS REALLY HOW CAN WE DECREASE DEPENDENCE ON CARS FOR EVERYBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT? AND THAT IS REALLY ABOUT INCREASING OPTIONS, RIGHT? WHEN WE CAN DEPEND LESS ON CARS, IT OPENS UP A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYBODY.
SO AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT IS BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONSIDERATION INTO BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS PROJECT AND HOW WE GET THROUGH THESE INTERSECTIONS, HOW WE GET PEOPLE THROUGH THIS ENTIRE CORRIDOR.
ANOTHER PART OF IT IS CAR TRAFFIC, RIGHT OR CAR TRAVEL? AND HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT CAR TRAVEL? HOW DO WE, WHAT TRADE OFFS DO WE HAVE? AND AND THAT, I THINK IS, I THINK, PERHAPS THE NEXT PART OF YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE TRADE OFFS.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE TENSIONS.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE KIND OF ALL STEP BACK RIGHT WHEN WE ADOPTED THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, WE SAID SORT OF THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP.
THERE ARE GOING TO BE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TRADE OFFS.
THERE ARE TENSIONS, OF COURSE, RIGHT BETWEEN THINKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION MOVEMENT THROUGHOUT OUR TOWN BY ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT MODES.
AND SO I THINK THAT THIS SORT OF PROJECT, RIGHT, BRINGS ALL OF THAT TO THE HEAD, RIGHT? WE WERE THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT MODES.
HOW DO WE BALANCE THEM? WHAT ARE THE TRADE OFFS? WHAT ARE WE PUTTING DIFFERENT EFFORTS INTO ETC.? SO, YEAH, I THINK THAT THIS IS CERTAINLY EMBLEMATIC OF THAT AND AND, YOU KNOW, A CONVERSATION WE CERTAINLY EXPECT AND WELCOME AND WE HAVE BEEN REALLY HAPPY TO BE INCLUDED IN BY CRISTINA AND HER TEAM.
SO LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I DIDN'T GET INTO.
I APPRECIATE THAT INSIGHT, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION AND INTENT HERE.
I THINK WE'RE GETTING THERE, BUT I STILL THINK WE HAVE WORK TO DO, BUT I'LL LEAVE MY COMMENTS TO LATER MAYOR AND COUNCIL ANYWAYS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT, WELL, WITH THAT, WE CAN TURN IT OVER TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
AND THEN WE WILL TURN IT BACK FOR A DISCUSSION TO START OUT WITH DAVID HAYWARD.
ONE IS WE OWN ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THAT INTERSECTION.
THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF LONE TREE AND BUTLER VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
WE'VE ALL SEEN WHAT THE FOURTH STREET BRIDGE HAS DONE FOR TRAFFIC AND REVITALIZATION IN OUR TOWN, AND I'M REALLY HOPING THAT THIS WILL DO THE SAME.
SECOND IS AS A MEMBER OF THE STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE THAT HELPED WRITE THE SOUTH SIDE PLAN.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF THAT WAS PROVIDING A PARK FOR THE SOUTH SIDE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN OVERLOOKED FOR FOR TOO MANY YEARS, AND THIS PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
SO I REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
MY SECOND COMMENT IS I SAT THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION AND HAD SORT OF CARTOON DOLLAR SIGNS RUNNING IN FRONT OF MY EYES.
YOU KNOW, WE DID PAY FOR THIS WITH A BOND MEASURE.
THAT BOND MEASURE HAD A DOLLAR FIGURE ON IT.
I, IT WOULD BE THE WORST POSSIBLE SCENARIO IF WE GOT THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING, YOU KNOW, GET TO GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE TWO YEARS FROM NOW AND WE HAVE A OVERPASS THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO BUILD BECAUSE WE'VE ADDED SO MANY BELLS AND WHISTLES TO IT.
SO IT WORRIES ME A LITTLE BIT.
THERE WERE NO DOLLAR FIGURES IN THAT PRESENTATION AT ALL.
THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION OF THE BUDGET.
WE HAVE A BUDGET AND WE DO NEED TO MEET IT.
AND SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THIS THING HAPPENS RIGHT? SO IT DOESN'T STALL OUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
AS A COROLLARY TO THAT AND THE SLIGHTLY MORE DETAIL, I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AS
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A PERSON AT THAT CORNER, I DO NOT BELIEVE THE ELDON STREET EXTENSION IS NECESSARY AND THAT WE NEED THAT ACCESS.BUT THAT'S A LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT I THINK STAFF CAN WORK OUT ON THEIR OWN.
THAT WHOLE AREA OR PARCEL AND ALL OUR NEIGHBORS IS GOING TO CHANGE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR DEASY, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, GOOD TO SEE YOU BE HERE IN PERSON.
I CHAIR THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.
I'M GOING TO TRY TO SUMMARIZE A TWO HOUR LONG MEETING FROM THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST IN LESS THAN THREE MINUTES.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THAT MEETING, AUGUST 11TH, WAS TO REVIEW THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF THE LONE TREE OVERPASS PROJECT, SO ATTENDEES INCLUDED THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEES AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION.
WE ALSO HAD MS. DEB HARRIS FROM THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ASLAN AND MCCARTHY AND CITY STAFF FROM CAPITAL ENGINEERING, TRAFFIC SUSTAINABILITY AND THE LTO DESIGN TEAM.
SO THE MEETING OBJECTIVE WAS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND SEEK INPUT TO THE CATEGORIES AND CRITERIA FOR THOSE INTERSECTION OPTIONS.
SO THE DESIGN TEAM PRESENTED MULTIPLE INTERSECTION DESIGN OPTIONS AND AN EVALUATION MATRIX.
WE TALKED ABOUT SAFETY OPERATIONS RIGHT OF WAY AND COST JUST TO LIST A FEW.
WE WERE NOT ASKED TO SELECT AN INTERSECTION LAYOUT, BUT TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THE WEIGHTING AND THE CRITERIA.
SO HERE ARE SOME GENERAL DESIGN COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD AT THAT COMMISSION MEETING FROM SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION.
THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT TRAFFIC MODELING AND CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS AND HOW TRAFFIC MODELING WILL BE BASED ON TYPICAL PROJECTIONS WITH GROWTH, BUT OPTIONS FOR A SPREAD OF SCENARIOS.
THERE NEEDS TO BE SENSITIVITY OF GOALS AND POLICIES WITH THE TIA.
AND I AM READING BECAUSE I WANTED TO CAPTURE VERBATIM THE INFORMATION THAT I HEARD FROM MS. DEB HARRIS.
WE HEARD SOUTH SIDE HAS AN AWARD WINNING NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND IT IS CRITICAL TO USE THAT MODEL TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD LACKS OPEN SPACE AND PARKS.
WE NEED TO GIVE BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN EXCHANGE FOR PUTTING A ROADWAY THROUGH A FORMERLY SEGREGATED COMMUNITY.
OTHERS EXPRESS THAT SAME SENTIMENT ABOUT THE NEED FOR A COMMUNITY PARK.
THERE'S ALSO A COMMENT REGARDING PROJECT ESTHETICS AND ARCHITECTURE AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE AN AMENITY IN A LANDMARK FEATURE WITH THIS PROJECT.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO DESCRIBE THESE IMPACTS TO DOWNTOWN OR AS THE RESULTS OF THE PROJECT INTO THE PUBLIC.
SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN AS A DRIVER, AS A CYCLIST, AS A PEDESTRIAN? WE NEED TO LOOK AT BIKE AND PED OPERATIONS AT THE PROJECT LIMITS, SO AT OUR TERMINATION POINTS AS PART OF THE SELECTION CRITERIA, AND WE NEED TO MAINTAIN ACCESS FOR ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
SO WE HAD A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC DESIGN COMMENTS, I WANTED TO NOTE THAT PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS.
WE COMMONLY SAY BIKE PED, BIKE PED, BUT WE NEED TO SAY CYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.
AND WE NEED TO PROVIDE EQUAL CONSIDERATION FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WITH SIGHT AND MOBILITY IMPAIRMENTS.
THE FLORIDA-T, AS YOU SAW, APPEARS TO PRIORITIZE TURNING MOVEMENTS FOR VEHICLES AT THE EXPENSE AND DELAY OF PEDESTRIANS, WHICH WAS NOT DESIRED.
THE NEW INTERSECTION DESIGN MAY BE UNFAMILIAR TO PEOPLE AND NEED TO BALANCE SAFETY WITH DRIVER UNFAMILIAR UNFAMILIARITY IN THAT CRITERIA WEIGHTING AND SELECTION.
THERE WAS GREAT ENTHUSIASM FOR ADVANCED SIGNALIZATION FOR CYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.
A BIG ISSUE IS THAT FREE FLOW RIGHT TURN AND THE DESIRE FOR SIGNAL CONTROL FOR THAT RIGHT ON RED TO IMPROVE SAFETY.
THANK YOU, MISS LEID, COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT MEETING? THANK YOU, MAYOR DEASY.
I WAS TRYING TO SPEAK QUICKLY.
THERE WAS MUCH DISCUSSION ON IMPORTANCE OF SNOW REMOVAL AND MAINTENANCE AS WE HAVE A GRADE SEPARATED SPACE FOR CYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE THE SNOW AND MAINTAIN THAT.
OTHERWISE ALL OF THAT WORK THAT WE DO FOR INFRASTRUCTURE ISN'T FUNCTIONING AS WE INTENDED.
THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ON BUDGET AND FEASIBILITY OF SELECTING AN OPTION, AND THERE'S A RECOGNITION THAT BUDGET CAN DRIVE THAT SELECTION.
AND ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, OUR COMMISSION MEETINGS ARE RECORDED AND THAT RECORDING CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE TO YOU.
IT'S ALSO A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO PUT A PLUG IN THAT WE'RE ALWAYS EAGER TO RECEIVE APPLICATIONS FOR THE COMMITTEES AND THOSE COMMISSIONS FOR THOSE WHO ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, THINGS LIKE THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE TIME TO FINISH.
THANK YOU MS. LEID FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND TRIED TO [INAUDIBLE] THE DISCUSSION WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
WHAT IS THE OVERALL RECOMMENDATION OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION REGARDING THIS, THIS
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SCHEMATIC DESIGN THUS FAR? COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS, WE WERE ASKED TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE SELECTION CRITERIA AND THE WEIGHTING TO INFORM THAT PROCESS, BUT WE WERE NOT ASKED TO NECESSARILY RECOMMEND AN INTERSECTION LAYOUT AT THE TIME IT WAS PRESENTED TO US IN AUGUST.SOME OF THOSE DETAILS HADN'T BEEN WORKED OUT THAT YOU SEE HERE THIS EVENING.
THERE WAS I SHOULD ADD, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT A ROUNDABOUT.
THERE WAS NOT ENTHUSIASM FOR PURSUING A ROUNDABOUT AT EITHER LOCATION.
AND THEN THERE WAS THE CONCERN ABOUT THE FLORIDA T.
COULD THE CONCERN ABOUT FLORIDA T INTERSECTION? CERTAINLY COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS.
THE CONCERN, LET'S SEE, IS THAT IT WOULD PRIORITIZE TURNING MOVEMENTS FOR VEHICLES AT THE EXPENSE AND DELAY OF PEDESTRIANS.
ON THAT FLORIDA T MOVEMENT, THAT WAS THE PRIMARY CONCERN THAT THAT I HEARD.
IS THERE ANY? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE TO COUNCIL AS PERTAINING TO THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS JUST PRESENTED TO US TODAY? COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS, I THINK IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THE PROGRESSION SINCE AUGUST, AND I THINK AS A COMMISSION, WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THAT COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION SO WE CAN HAVE A LIVELY DISCUSSION WITH ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS SO THAT THEY CAN EACH WEIGH IN ON THEIR THOUGHTS AND REACTIONS TO THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SAW THIS EVENING.
SO I WANT TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION ON THAT MATTER, BUT I CAN SAY THERE IS ENTHUSIASM FOR SEEING IT AGAIN AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.
THANK YOU, I DO APPRECIATE AND SEND YOU MY GRATEFUL HEART FOR YOUR FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, ALONG WITH FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON THE COMMISSION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU AS WELL.
I THANK YOU MS. LEID FOR COMING.
YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT, IT'S I FEEL STRONGLY THAT THE REFUGE ISLANDS HAVE A LOT OF VALUE.
CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY? DID THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION TALK ABOUT THAT? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? COMMENTS ON THE REFUGE ISLANDS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF DETAIL FOR EACH INTERSECTION DESIGN.
WE GOT A LITTLE FRANKLY, WE GOT A LITTLE BOGGED DOWN IN THE DETAIL AT COMMISSION.
AND IT WAS KIND OF DIFFICULT TO UNBURY OURSELVES FROM THAT.
BUT AS I RECALL, THE CONVERSATION SPECIFIC TO THE PEDESTRIAN REFUGE WAS IN THE CONTEXT OF THOSE RIGHT TURN LANES.
AND AS WE'RE LOOKING AT BUTLER AND LONE TREE SPECIFICALLY, IT WAS THE THE FREE FLOW RIGHT AND HAVING SIGNALIZATION THAT YOU COULD ACTIVATE SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TURN CONTROL AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT FREE FLOW RIGHT.
SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN ISLAND FOR THAT SIGNALIZATION.
SO THAT'S WHAT I RECALL FROM THE MEETING SPECIFIC TO PEDESTRIAN REFUGE AREAS.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU, MS. LEID FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND WORKED ON THIS AS WELL.
GLAD, GLAD THAT YOU'RE COMING FORWARD AND PROVIDING A PUBLIC COMMENT AND THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS WITH YOU.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMITTEE'S CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED IN REGARDS TO PEDESTRIAN WELL-BEING? AND AGAIN, SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO THE NUMBER OF LANES AT THE INTERSECTIONS? WAS WAS THAT A TOPIC OF CONCERN? AND WHAT DID COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT, THAT YOU REMEMBER.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, I DO NOT REMEMBER SPECIFIC DETAILS RELATED TO THE NUMBER OF LANES AND PEDESTRIANS THAT WE HAD A SPECIFIC DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
BUT I THINK TO TO THAT RESPONSE OR TO THAT COMMENT QUESTION, THAT COULD CERTAINLY BE A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION SHOULD THIS BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.
OK, THANK YOU, AND YEAH, I DEFINITELY THINK IT SHOULD COME BACK THROUGH THE
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COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES, AND I WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN THEIR INPUT ON THAT TOPIC.THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, AND THANK YOU, MS. LEID.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE HAVE DEB HARRIS AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THE ONLINE PARTICIPANTS.
YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, IT WAS REALLY GOOD I UNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT, AND THAT'S KIND OF SCARY.
BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF POINTS REGARDING THE PROJECT.
FIRST OF ALL, DEFINITELY WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC SPACE.
AND I WANT TO REITERATE THAT IT'S CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD PUT IN OUR PLAN AND SOMETHING THAT THE CITY PROMISED.
AND SO WHOEVER I MEAN, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE MONEY FROM TO DO IT, WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT.
BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THAT I WANTED TO ALSO FOCUS ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
SO WE'RE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE CARBON EMISSIONS AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT THE THE PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT I REALLY HAVEN'T HEARD IS HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE OUT OF CARS AND WE GET PEOPLE OUT OF CARS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THESE ISSUES BY INCREASING OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION? SO I LIVED IN A LARGE CITY FOR A LONG TIME WITH A KID, AND I DIDN'T HAVE A CAR AND I GOT AROUND GREAT, GROCERY SHOPPING AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE WE HAD GREAT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
HE DOES NOT HAVE A CAR AND HE'S A VIDEOGRAPHER AND HE GETS AROUND GREAT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS SO GOOD.
SO IF WE CAN STOP THINKING SO MUCH ABOUT PUTTING EVERYBODY ON BIKES BECAUSE AT MY AGE, I'M NOT GETTING ON A BIKE SO WE CAN NOT HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND THAT'S GOING TO AT LEAST, I THINK, ADDRESS OF SOME OF THE PROBLEMS, ESPECIALLY THE PROBLEMS WITH HOW MANY LANES OF TRAFFIC WE HAVE.
IF WE CAN GET PEOPLE OUT OF CARS AND GET THEM INTO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OR ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AND SO THE LAST THING THAT I JUST WANT TO SAY IS THAT WE NEED TO ALSO FOCUS ON GETTING THIS MORE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, BUT THEY REALLY HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND I'VE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
SO WE REALLY NEED TO TRY AND MAKE THAT CLEAR TO PEOPLE.
WITH THAT ONLINE, WE HAVE ANTHONY QUINTO.
CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OK? YES, SIR.
I THINK THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED, BUT I DO HAVE THE QUESTION IT.
THE PRESENTATIONS FROM THIS EVENING WILL BE ONLINE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO DIGEST IN THESE.
I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE, I THINK, A LITTLE BIT MORE SUCCINCT COMMENTS, BUT I WILL GIVE A FEW MORE FROM AN OVERVIEW PERSPECTIVE RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PRIORITIZED ALTERNATIVE FOR THIS PLAN.
WHETHER IT'S THAT WOULD BE THE FINAL ONE THAT'S IMPLEMENTED OR NOT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DESIGNERS FOCUS ON [INAUDIBLE].
SO THAT'S ONE THING I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO DRAW ATTENTION TO, MOST OF THESE PROPOSALS AREN'T PRIORITIZING BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS AT ALL.
AND FRANKLY, [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S NOT REALLY BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE OR PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE JUST LOOKS LIKE THAT.
IT FACILITATES MAYBE SOME THINGS, BUT IT DOESN'T FACILITATE, FOR EXAMPLE, CYCLISTS WHO ARE COMFORTABLE IN TRAFFIC MOVING EFFICIENTLY.
SOME OF THESE DESIGN ASPECTS ACTUALLY REQUIRE BIKES TO WAIT FOR SEVERAL SEVERAL INTERSECTION CYCLES, SEVERAL LIGHT CYCLES TO MAKE SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, A LEFT HAND TURN.
WHILE AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO ADD AN EXTRA 30 SECONDS TO THE ABILITY FOR A CAR TO MAKE A TURN.
IF I WAS UNDERSTANDING PART OF THE TURN LANE QUESTIONS FROM EARLIER.
I ADMONISH THE COUNCIL TO SPEND TIME TRULY VISUALIZING USING THESE INTERSECTIONS AS EITHER RIDERS OR PEDESTRIANS REALLY THINK THROUGH WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE TO GET FROM THIS CORNER TO THAT CORNER? HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE? I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THIS STUFF BREAKS DOWN IS IN THESE NICE PRESENTATIONS, AND THE PRESENTATION IS VERY WELL DONE.
BUT THESE THINGS LOOK REALLY GREAT.
BUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY PUT YOUR MIND AROUND, HOW WOULD I NAVIGATE THIS INTERSECTION ON FOOT OR ON A BICYCLE? THEY'RE NOT REALLY THAT GREAT.
THEY'RE REAL SLOW AND REALLY TIME CONSUMING, AND DON'T PRIORITIZE GETTING PEOPLE AROUND UNDER THEIR OWN POWER.
AND THEN THE LAST POINT AND I MADE THIS POINT IN A LETTER TO THE COUNCIL.
BUT THE GREENHOUSE GAS ANALYSIS NEEDS TO ALSO INCORPORATE INDUCED DEMAND
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INTO THESE PROJECTIONS.AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT SCIENCE, BUT I KNOW THAT SCIENCE AND THAT THAT EXISTS.
SO BY PROVIDING THESE ADDITIONAL LANES OF TRAFFIC, THERE IS ANOTHER CONSIDERATION YOU WILL GET.
YOU WILL FACILITATE MORE USE OF MOTOR VEHICLES AND THAT'S NOT BEING INCORPORATED INTO THOSE GHG NUMBERS AND THAT'S POTENTIALLY SUBSTANTIAL.
IT'S AN OLD BIT OF SCIENCE ON THIS, AND THE ENGINEERING GOES BACK TO THE NINETEEN THIRTIES.
SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ONLINE PARTICIPANTS? NO, MAYOR, WE DO NOT.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, WITH THAT, WE CAN TURN IT BACK ON COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A LITTLE BREAK? WE CAN DO IT AFTERWARD OR RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, LET'S LET'S TAKE A FEW MINUTES RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN DIGEST THIS A LITTLE BIT FOR DISCUSSION SINCE IT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION.
ALL RIGHT, WE READY TO GO HERE ? ALL SET? EXCELLENT.
WELL, WITH THAT COUNCIL, WE HAVE YEAH, I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE LONE TREE OVERPASS.
I GUESS I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
I HAVE THREE THINGS, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK.
ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING HOW MANY LANES PEOPLE HAVE TO GO ACROSS.
I THINK IF WE CAN WORK IN SOME REFUGE ISLANDS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY POSITIVE.
THE SECOND THING IS, AND HERE'S THE QUESTION FOR STAFF, HOW ARE WE ON BUDGET? I DIDN'T MEAN I DON'T WANT DETAILS, BUT I MEAN ARE? WE'RE GOING TO BE OK ON BUDGET? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, WE'RE KIND OF IN THE DISCOVERY STAGE OF EVERYONE'S WISH LIST AT THE POINT AT THIS POINT WITH A PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, WE WE HEAR LOUD AND CLEAR.
THE COMMUNITY WANTS, YOU KNOW, THE BEST KIND OF PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLIST FACILITIES.
WE, OUR CONTRACTOR IS WORKING UP THE DRAFT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AT THE MOMENT.
THIS CONVERSATION IS PART OF THOSE NUMBERS.
AND SO WE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE $73 MILLINE AND AND AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE A TRADE OFF ONCE WE KIND OF GET ALL THE IDEAS ON THE TABLE.
ALL RIGHT, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'LL COME BACK TO US ON THAT.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, WE NEED TO DO IT RIGHT.
BUT YEAH, THERE'S THE REALITY OF THE BUDGET.
RIGHT AND THE REAL ESTATE IS REALLY, I MEAN, EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT REAL ESTATE IS DOING IN FLAGSTAFF, THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST UNANTICIPATED COST.
RIGHT? MY LAST QUESTION IS, IF YOU RUN THIS BY MOUNTAIN LINE.
THIS IS I'M KIND OF TYING TO MRS. HARRIS MS. HARRIS'S COMMENT.
SO YOU HAVE COORDINATED WITH MOUNTAIN LINE? WE ARE, AND WE HAVE.
WE HAVE THE DRAFT DESIGN REPORT THAT WAS PUT OUT A WEEK BEFORE LAST, AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED COMMENTS ON THAT BACK TO US.
BUT YES, THEY ARE ONE OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND COMPLETELY COORDINATING.
I AGREE IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND A LOT TO DIGEST.
I THINK I'LL GO BACK AND WATCH IT AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE INTERSECTIONS.
I, YOU KNOW, I PICTURE MYSELF AS SOMEONE WHO HAS ANY KIND OF A MOBILITY ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S SITE OR AGE OR YOU HAVE A STROLLER AND THE INTERSECTIONS LOOK VERY DAUNTING.
AND SO THAT'S MY MAJOR CONCERN.
AND IF WE ARE GOING TO ACHIEVE OUR CARBON GOALS AND IF WE ARE GOING TO DESIGN FOR A MORE ENJOYABLE.
PLACE TO LIVE, IT HAS TO BE ENJOYABLE TO WALK AND BIKE, AND WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT EVERY TRIP ENDS WITH WALKING.
AND SO EVEN IF YOU'RE TAKING TRANSIT, IF YOU'RE IF MOUNTAIN LINE LETS YOU OUT, BUT THEN
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YOU'VE GOT THIS HORRENDOUS INTERSECTION TO GO THROUGH THAT JUST ANYTHING THAT WE PUT IN THE IN THE PATH OF SOMEONE CHOOSING ANOTHER OPTION.IN TERMS OF TRANSPORTATION, I THINK WE'RE MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE WHAT WE'VE SAID THAT WE THAT WE VALUE AND AND WE'RE LOSING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO MEET OUR GOALS AS WELL.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE REAL FOCUS ON THE INTERSECTIONS AND HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT.
EVERYONE, REGARDLESS OF ABILITY, IS ABLE TO GET SAFELY AND AND NOT JUST SAFELY, BUT ENJOY AS ENJOYABLE AS AN INTERSECTION CAN BE.
THANK YOU VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN.
OK, I'VE GOT SEVERAL THOUGHTS HERE.
I'VE WRITTEN SOME OF THEM DOWN.
REALLY GIVE YOU GUYS SOME EARLY FEEDBACK AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE BEFORE US.
I THINK ABOUT THIS VERY MUCH IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND SOME THINGS I'VE SAID IN THE PAST ABOUT REIMAGINING THE WAY TRAFFIC IS GOING TO WORK DOWN THE ROAD.
PUN INTENDED, WHICH WE CAN'T ENTIRELY KNOW, BUT WE WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD THOUGHTS ON THAT.
AND I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE THIS OVERALL TO TO BE BOLD AND TO THINK IN NEW WAYS AND TO USE NEW, NEW WAYS OF THINKING TO CREATE NEW IDEAS HERE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO TO STATE RIGHT OFF THE OFFSET THAT THE VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN.
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WILL PROCEED.
AND I SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE LONE TREE OVERPASS.
I HONESTLY, HONESTLY DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER I VOTED YES OR NO ON THAT BALLOT MEASURE, BUT I REALLY DO SEE THE NEED FOR NEW PATHWAYS THROUGHOUT FLAGSTAFF.
I WANT TO BE MINDFUL TOO, THOUGH, THAT WE CAN'T ROAD BUILD OUR WAY OUT OF CONGESTION.
I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THAT'S A PHILOSOPHY THAT I CARRIED WITH ME INTO THIS ROLE, AND IT'S ONE THAT I'VE HEARD A LOT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS.
I'VE HINTED AT SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE GOING BACK AND FORTH IN THE COMMUNITY WITH RESPECT TO THE JOHN WESLEY POWELL BOULEVARD AND THIS PROJECT.
THERE'S A LOT OF APPREHENSION AND ANXIETY ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE GROW AND THE MINDFULNESS WITH WHICH WE DO IT RIGHT? AT THE SAME CHANCE, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY, I SEE A WAY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT THAT PROCLAIMS OUR COMMUNITY VALUES.
AND PROVIDES NEEDED RELIEF FOR TRAFFIC AT THE SAME TIME.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A VERY INTELLIGENT, VERY SMART, VERY INNOVATIVE GROUP OF ENGINEERS AND THINKERS ON THIS, WHO COULD WHO COULD WEAVE THAT NEEDLE, RIGHT? YOU KNOW THE IN THE SAME WAY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CLIMATE THAT THE PAST IS NO LONGER AN ADEQUATE PREDICTOR OF THE FUTURE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT PHILOSOPHY IN MIND WHEN IT COMES TO THE WAY THAT WE CRUNCH NUMBERS AND PROJECT OUT CONGESTION LEVELS AND CAR TRAFFIC AND AND.
VEHICLE BEHAVIORS IN THE DECADES AHEAD.
AND AND MY CHALLENGE TO ALL OF US AND MY VISION CASTING IS THAT WE DO THIS IN A WAY WHERE WE DICTATE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND FUTURE BEHAVIORS, AND WE DON'T LET OUR CURRENT BEHAVIORS DICTATE US.
ALL THAT SAID, I HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH WHAT I'VE GENERALLY SEEN TONIGHT.
AND THAT'S NOT TO DISPARAGE ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS SO FAR.
WE'RE AT A GREAT STARTING POINT.
VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HIT PAUSE AND HAVE THESE IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS AND TO VOICE GIVE VOICE TO THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.
I FEEL THAT IT'S TOO FOCUSED ON CARS.
I FEEL THAT IT'S TOO MUCH A FUNCTION OF THE BEAST AND NOT ENOUGH OF TAKING THE BULL BY THE HORNS.
SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE OUR PLANNERS TO GO SMALLER ON THIS.
I THINK WE I THINK WE NEED LESS LANES.
I THINK WE SHOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT INTERSECTION WAIT TIMES TO AN EXTENT, RIGHT?
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I MEAN, DON'T SWEAT THE SMALL STUFF.30 SECOND TRADE OFFS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE BROADENING OUR SCOPE OVER, AND I'VE HEARD THIS SAID BEFORE FROM OTHERS, SOME OF OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS AS WELL.
THINK MORE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF PEOPLE ON BIKES OR ON FOOT OR DOWN THE ROAD, PERHAPS ON ELECTRIC SCOOTERS.
WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING ABOUT TOWN THE WAY I SAW EVERYBODY DOING IN D.C.
THERE'S THERE'S NEW WAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE USING OUR MULTIMODAL SYSTEM AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN CHARGE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE DOWN THE ROAD INSTEAD OF JUST APPEASING A PAST NOTION OF THE WAY THINGS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN.
I WANT TO SAY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE ABLE WE NEED TO GO ALL IN ESTHETICALLY.
THIS SHOULD BE A COUNTY WIDE AMENITY.
IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT CAN APPEAR ON POSTCARDS, SOMETHING THAT SPEAKS TO OUR COMMUNITY VALUES.
IT NEEDS TO BE BOLD WITH OUR COMMUNITY SPACE CIVIC SPACE.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN BE VERY.
VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT DESIGN ELEMENTS AND WALL TREATMENTS AND.
RAILING TREATMENTS AND ALL ALL THOSE ASPECTS OF THINGS, WE SHOULD DO THAT.
AND I JUST I WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO TALK ABOUT THE GREENHOUSE ANALYSIS.
I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT THAT WAS DONE.
IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT I'M FAIRLY SKEPTICAL STILL THAT WE'RE TO PUT TOO MUCH INTO THAT.
I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
BUT WHAT I REALLY TOOK AWAY FROM THAT IS THAT 14 YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK AT THE SAME LEVELS OF CONGESTION, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK FOLKS WHO ARE ANXIOUS ABOUT THIS ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
WE'RE JUST FACILITATING MORE TRAFFIC BY BUILDING MORE LANES AND NOT ACTUALLY SOLVING THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HERE TO ADDRESS.
SO BE BOLD, THINK IN NEW WAYS, BE INNOVATIVE.
USE NEW WAYS OF ANALYSIS AND DATA COLLECTION AND IN CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS.
AND LET'S CONTINUE THE PROCESS AND BE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT IT.
I THINK WE CAN ALL GET WHAT WE WANT OUT OF THIS.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A VERY, VERY EXCITING MOMENT FOR US.
THANK YOU, STAFF, SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK.
AND I REALLY DO RESPECT YOU GUYS AND HAVE GREAT FAITH THAT YOU'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH COUNCIL DIRECTION IN MIND.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI OR COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET ONLINE, DID YOU WANT TO CHIME IN AT ALL? YES, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET WAS FIRST.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND I JUST WROTE DOWN A FEW NOTES, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE.
I DO DEFINITELY BELIEVE WE NEED THE STOP CONTROLLED RIGHT TURN LANES, THE SEPARATED BIKE LANES.
THE POSITIVE OFFSET INTERSECTION.
I DO AGREE WITH WHAT HAS BEEN SAID THAT THOSE INTERSECTIONS LOOK AWFULLY DAUNTING TO ME AS WELL.
I AGREE THAT IF WE CAN REDUCE THE LANES, I WOULD.
I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT I'M SURE OUR MULTIMODAL COMMUNITY WOULD AS WELL.
I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE SNOW REMOVAL AND THE MAINTENANCE.
I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT SO THAT WE CAN ENJOY ALL THE DIFFERENT MODES OF TRANSPORTATION THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
THE BEAUTIFICATION ELEMENT DEFINITELY KEEP THAT IN MIND SO THAT IT REFLECTS OUR CITY.
AND THANK YOU FOR CREATING THE WEBSITE, I BELIEVE THAT'S A VERY USEFUL TOOL, AND I WILL HELP PROMOTE THAT ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA AND HOPE THAT COUNCIL CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WE INCLUDED TALK OF A PARK IN THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY.
I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE A GOOD STARTING POINT, BUT A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE AND TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND HAVE NEW VISION WITH IT.
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU CHRISTINE AND JASON AND EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO BRING FORWARD THE BEST PROJECT THAT WE CAN FOR THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY.
AND I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE YOU AND EVERYONE THAT'S WORKED ON
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IT.I THINK YOU ALL HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB, BY THE WAY, I'M AT THE PHOENIX AIRPORT, SO I'M JUST GOING TO TALK THROUGH THE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THE BACKGROUND NOISE, BUT COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
I SAW SLIDES WHERE BIKE LANES WERE BASICALLY EITHER BETWEEN TRAFFIC OR ADJACENT TO TRAFFIC SEPARATED BY A STRIP OF PAINT.
I THINK WE NEED TO FIND DESIGNS THAT ALLOW FOLKS THE OPTION TO EITHER RIDE THAT WAY WITH SOME OF US ARE WILLING TO OR OR TO RIDE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S 60 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION WHOSE I THINK IT'S CONCERNED BUT INTERESTED.
SO SO I THINK WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB ACCOMMODATING THAT POPULATION THAT DOESN'T WANT TO BE ON ON THE ROAD FOR THE MOST PART.
BUT THERE WERE SOME SLIDES THAT DIDN'T DO THAT.
SO I IMPLORE US TO CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT REDUCING TRAFFIC FROM SAN FRANCISCO AND BEAVER.
IF THAT IS THE CASE, WE SHOULD ALSO BE TALKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVES OF TAKING A LANE OR WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE SOONER THAN LATER BEFORE THOSE VOLUMES INCREASE TO THE POINT WHERE WE SAY, OK, NO, LET'S JUST LEAVE THE LANES AS IS, BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY TRAFFIC ON HERE.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE DOWN THAT ROAD SHIFT DISCUSSION WHILE WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.
ARE WE? SO I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME QUESTIONS IN THE HERE, TOO, CHRISTINE.
ARE WE DOING A NEPA ON THIS PROJECT? A COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, WE ARE NOT DOING AN OFFICIAL NEPA, WE ARE DOING ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS OF THE PARCELS THAT WE'RE PURCHASING.
WE'RE DOING ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE LAND, AND WE ARE FOLLOWING THE NEPA PROCESS WITH OUR PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, WHICH IS KIND OF MORE STRENUOUS.
SO BUT WE'RE NOT DOING A FULL NEPA.
I'D BE INTERESTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE IMPACTS ON THE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES AND THE DIFFERENT DESIGN OPTIONS AND HOW THEY RATE, YOU KNOW, BUT WE CAN CIRCLE BACK TO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN SPOKE TO, I HAD THE SAME CONCERNS THAT BY 2040, WE'RE GOING TO FIND OURSELVES BACK AT THE SAME ISSUE WITH THE SAME ISSUE, BUT YET WITH SEVEN LANE INTERSECTIONS.
AND WE'RE THINKING, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? SO I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE UNDERLYING PRINCIPLES AND VALUES OF WHICH THIS PROJECT WAS DESIGNED.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE VALUES AND THE TRADE OFFS, I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THAT MEDIAN WIDTH THAT 26 AND 29 FOOT MEDIAN AT TIMES AND THE COST VERSUS TIME SAVINGS.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO HAVE AND THE COMMUNITY HAS NEEDS TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH VALUE PRIORITIZE IS PRIORITIZED.
DO WE REALLY PRIORITIZE THAT DOUBLE LEFT HAND TURN FOR THE ADDITIONAL TWENTY SIX FEET OF MEDIAN? AND WHAT'S THAT COST? HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IS THAT? YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED A COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY SAID.
START DIVING INTO SOME OF THESE NUMBERS WHEN POSSIBLE OR APPROPRIATE TO BETTER DIGEST AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TRADE OFFS ARE.
I THINK WE NEED A DISCUSSION AROUND VALUES AND TRADE OFFS IN GENERAL.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I LIKE FOR US TO ADDRESS LANE WIDTHS.
THERE'S 12 AND 11 FEET LANE WIDTH AT TIMES, AND I THINK WE CAN BRING THAT DOWN MAYBE TO 10 AND A HALF IS WHAT I THINK IS POSSIBLE.
BUT I THINK THAT THE TIGHTER WE MAKE THAT THE BETTER TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.
I LIKE FOR US TO FIND A WAY TO FUND THAT PARK.
THE PARKS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD WITH THIS THE FUNDING FROM THIS PROJECT.
I HAVE A FEELING THERE'S A WAY TO DO BOTH.
AND THEN LET'S SEE, ALMOST THROUGH MY, MY LIST.
YOU KNOW, MAJOR CONCERNS ABOUT THE INTERSECTIONS AND HOW WE'RE PRIORITIZING THE MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC, LIKE THE PUBLIC COMMENTER SPOKE TO, CAN WE SEE DESIGNS FOR HOW A BICYCLE PRIORITIZED MODEL MIGHT LOOK FOR AN OVERPASS AND THESE PROJECTS IN GENERAL, AND SAME WITH PEDESTRIAN? AND THEN AT LEAST THAT WAY, WE CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT WAYS TO DESIGN THAT BEST SUIT EACH MODE OF TRANS, TRAVEL AND OVERLAY HOW WE WANT TO PRIORITIZE AND WHERE THE VALUES ARE AND FUNDING THESE.
I THINK THAT'D BE REALLY HELPFUL.
WE I THINK JASON SPOKE TO THE EFFICIENCY OF SPEED THROUGH OUR NETWORKS AS A VALUE OF LIKE VEHICLES BEING, YOU KNOW, MOVED.
I THINK THAT'S THE VALUE THAT WE REALLY NEED, THAT WE'RE CHALLENGING TODAY AND REALLY WRESTLING WITH COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY AND STAFF, AND WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH IT.
YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT IS MASSIVE.
TWENTY SIX LANES, OBVIOUSLY PRIORITIZING THE MOVEMENT OF CARS AT THE TOP.
I DO AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS ABOUT INDUCED DEMAND.
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I FEEL LIKE WE'RE PHOENIX-ING FLAG, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S IT'S NOT GOOD AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE A LEADER LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN SAID.YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S LET'S DO THIS.
LET'S SHOW THE STATE AND THE NATION WHAT WE CAN DO IN FLAGSTAFF WHEN IT COMES TO THIS BIG SHIFT THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT.
WE REALLY HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE SIZE OF THE COMMUNITY.
I JUST THINK IN CLOSING, WE NEED TO FIX THIS NOT ONLY FOR LONE TREE, BUT FOR ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.
SO WE REALLY NEED TO EVALUATE WHAT THE VALUES ARE AT THE CORE OF OUR EFFORTS HERE.
AND YOU KNOW, I GUESS TO OUR TEAM, I ASK WHAT'S BROKEN HERE AND HOW DO WE FIX IT? YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE A RUDE QUESTION, BUT WE FUNDAMENTALLY NEED TO CHANGE TO SEE THE CHANGE.
WE START CHANGING THINGS, TO START SEEING DESIGNS THAT COME FORWARD WITH MORE OF A MULTIMODAL VALUE AT ITS ROOT.
I DO WONDER IF A CONSULTANT TO LOOK THROUGH OUR ENGINEERING STANDARDS, DIFFERENT GUIDING DOCUMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, TIAS AND WHATNOT AND OUR SPEED ALLOCATIONS AND OUR ROAD TYPES WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HELP US, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE TOOLS WE NEED TO REALLY BE SUCCESSFUL MOVING FORWARD RATHER THAN HAVING THIS WRESTLING, YOU KNOW, UNCOMFORTABLE DISCUSSION WITH EVERY PROJECT WE'RE INVESTING IN, ANYWAYS.
I KNOW IT'S A LOT, AND I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S NOT WHAT FOLKS WANT TO HEAR, BUT I THINK WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO STILL ON THIS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS.
BUT I GUESS IN CLOSING, CLOSING MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO REALLY IS SEND THIS BACK, SEND STAFF BACK TO GO WORK WITH SUSTAINABILITY, TO WORK WITH OUR OUR TEAM IN MULTIMODAL AND AND REALLY COME BACK WITH A PLAN THAT BETTER BRINGS THOSE VALUES TO THE TOP AND PRIORITIZES THOSE VALUES.
I THINK THAT THEY HAVE THE TOOLS THEY NEED.
WE JUST NEED TO EMPOWER STAFF TO DO THAT.
COUNCIL THANK YOU, CHRISTINE AND JASON AND EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
I'LL BE REITERATING A LOT OF WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IT DOES SEEM RATHER DAUNTING TO BE ABLE TO GO OVER SEVEN LANES OF TRAFFIC IN THAT SITUATION, AND IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD THAT NEXT TIME WE SEE THIS, IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE, OK, IF I AM A BICYCLIST GOING ON THIS ROUTE, WHAT IS GOING TO BE MY EXPERIENCE TRYING TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B SO WE CAN KIND OF GET A VISUAL OF WHAT THE BICYCLISTS EXPERIENCE IS GOING TO BE TO BE ABLE TO GET ACROSS THESE LANES.
WE WITH THE REFUGES WITH WHICH DEFINITELY I AM IN STRONG SUPPORT OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE ON THIS PROJECT.
ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK ON AS COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI HAD STATED THIS JUST THIS DOES CHANGE THE EQUATION FOR SAN FRANCISCO STREET AND BEAVER STREET FOR POTENTIALLY EXPANDING OUR BIKING OPTIONS THERE.
AND WE NEED TO EXPLORE THAT MORE THOROUGHLY AND POTENTIALLY THAT WOULD CREATE A BETTER AND SAFER ROUTE FOR OUR BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS WHO ARE GOING TO USE THOSE ROADS MORE THAN PROBABLY THE LONE TREE OVERPASS IF THEY'RE GOING FROM NAU TO DOWNTOWN TO COCONINO STATES OR WHEREVER ELSE.
SO LET'S TRY TO TAKE A LARGER VIEW OF THIS SITUATION AND IN THAT WE MIGHT BE CREATING MUCH BETTER SITUATION FOR BICYCLISTS TO HAVE THAT AREA AND THEN THE VEHICLES THAT ARE GOING TO BE CONCENTRATING MORE ON THE OVERPASS.
NEXT WE DEFINITELY NEED OUR CIVIC SPACE AND I KNOW THE DISCUSSIONS ARE ALREADY HAPPENING, BUT ABSOLUTELY BEFITTING WITH THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEIR VISION IS FOR THE ART, WHETHER THEY WILL SEE VALUE IN BASKETBALL COURTS OR SOMETHING ELSE, OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
THIS NEEDS TO BE THE BIG, NICE NEW PARK THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WANTING FOR A WHILE ALSO.
YEAH, IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, IF IT DOES COME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COST ESTIMATES FOR HAVING THOSE LARGE MEDIANS AND HAVING THESE LARGE ROADS, BECAUSE THAT IS DEFINITELY PART OF MY CONSIDERATION WITH.
HOW MANY LANES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, POTENTIALLY.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE IDEA OF HAVING THE MULTIPLE TURN LANES.
FOR I MEAN, WE ALSO HAVE TO BE REALISTIC HERE, COUNCIL, WHEN WE WERE TALKING 30 SECONDS AND THEN SITTING IN FRONT OF A LIGHT FOR EVERY VEHICLE MULTIPLIED BY THEIR CARBON
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EMISSIONS FROM SITTING THERE, THAT GOES AGAINST OUR OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLANS TOO.SO WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
30 SECONDS WITH WHAT? FORTY THOUSAND VEHICLES TRAVELING THERE? THAT'S A LOT.
SO LET'S BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND NOT JUST SAY, HEY, WE WANT LESS LANES.
SO ANYWAYS, THOSE ARE MY GENERAL THOUGHTS.
AND ASIDE FROM THAT, I THINK WE'RE YEAH.
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HARD WORK ON THIS AND LOOK FORWARD TO HOW THIS DEVELOPS.
FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR TEAM, FLAGSTAFF FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, AND THAT GRATITUDE ALSO EXTEND TO THE ENTIRE PLANNING TEAM TEAM OF ENGINEERS ON STAFF AND THE CONSULTANTS.
REFRESH THE PURPOSE OF LONE TREE OVERPASS.
IT'S PART OF THE LONE TREE CORRIDOR.
THAT WAS APPROVED BY FLAGSTAFF VOTERS IN 2018 AND THE LONE TREE OVERPASS IS THE MASTERPIECE.
MS. CAMERON MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE 73 MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF LONE TREE OVERPASS.
HOWEVER, THE TOTAL COST OF LONE TREE CORRIDOR'S A HUNDRED AND SIX MILLION, THAT, OF COURSE, COVER COVER THE ZUNI DRIVE TO J.W.
PUEBLO AND, OF COURSE, LONE TREE AND I-40 BRIDGES.
SO THE LONE TREE CORRIDOR SERVES THE NEEDS TO PROVIDE SAFE, GRADED GRADE SEPARATED RAILROAD CROSSING.
ARTILLERY CONNECTION ALTERNATE TO MILTON ROAD.
MISSING PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FACILITIES.
THE LONE TREE CORRIDOR INCLUDES BRIDGE OVER THE RAILROAD, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WIDENING FROM TWO TO FOUR LANES, SIDEWALKS, TRAILS, BIKE LANES.
SO THE LONE TREE BENEFITS FLAGSTAFF AND THE ENTIRE REGION.
IT WILL PROVIDE LESS CONGESTION TO DOWNTOWN, ASSESS THE FUTURE GROWTH AREAS, IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE MOBILITY.
MORE EFFECTIVE EVACUATION ROUTES.
SO JUST KIND OF REFRESHING THE OUR MEMORY WHY FLAGSTAFF VOTERS VOTED FOR PROP 21A.
AND FLAGSTAFF VOTERS DESIRE TO TO TAX THEMSELVES TO FUND THIS PROJECT WAS REVERBERATED IN THE RECENT FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY SERVER SURVEY, WHEREAS.
MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION REMAINS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SPENDING.
TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY AND TRAFFIC AND ROADS.
LAST WEEK I WAS AT THE R-TECH SUMMIT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ASKING OUR STATE LEGISLATORS TO MATCH OUR LOCAL FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND I HEARD FLAGSTAFF FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION ADMINISTRATOR MENTIONED, AND I QUOTE HER.
TRANSPORTATION IS NOT IMPORTANT OR FOR WHAT IT IS.
TRANSPORTATION IS IMPORTANT FOR WHAT IT DOES.
GET PEOPLE WHERE THEY NEED, WHERE THEY NEED TO GO AND CONNECT THEM TO OPPORTUNITIES.
TRANSPORTATION SHAPES AND SUPPORT THE ECONOMY OF COMMUNITIES AND REGION.
SO GOING BACK TO THIS PRESENTATION, I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE THE MINUTIA OF DETAILS.
CONFIDENCE ON OUR TEAM OF EXPERTS.
BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE TEAM TO CONDUCT FURTHER COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND
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ENGAGEMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR COMMISSIONS, AS WELL AS THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND PARTNERS AND STAKEHOLDERS SUCH AS THE BUSINESS SECTOR.I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A PENDING ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY THAT WILL BE PUT FORTH SOON.
KEEPING IN MIND THE CONVERGENCE AND ALIGNMENT OF GOALS OF THE CITY OF OUR PARTNERS, ESPECIALLY WITH WITH BNSF AND ADA, FOR WHICH PART OF THE THE PROJECT THEY WILL BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED.
AND OF COURSE, OUR PARTNERS WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ALSO ALIGNING THIS THIS MASTERPIECE WITH THE OVERALL GOALS OF COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE PREVIOUS THE PREVIOUS PRIORITIES AND PLANS THAT WE HAVE ADOPTED, SUCH AS THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND THE THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS UNDERWAY, AS WELL AS.
WITH THE HOUSING PLAN THAT IS ALSO BEING DEVELOPED.
SO AGAIN, IT'S THE ALIGNMENT AND CONVERGENCE OF OUR MANY GOALS AND PRIORITIES AS A COMMUNITY.
KEEPING IN MIND THAT THIS THIS PROJECT BENEFITS NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT THE ENTIRE REGION.
AND I WOULD ALSO KIND OF ECHO WHAT I HEARD FROM FROM OUR PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF YESTERDAY WHEN WE'RE FACED WITH WITH PROJECTS OF THIS MAGNANIMITY.
WE HAVE TO EMBRACE INNOVATION, COLLABORATION AND HOW WE ALIGN AND CONVERGE OUR GOALS.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS.
WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL OR COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
SO I HEARD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE WE SHOULD MAKE THIS A TWO LANE ROAD INSTEAD OF A FOUR LANE ROAD.
I ONLY OFFER THIS FOR CLARIFICATION.
I BELIEVE THE REFERENCE I HEARD TO TWO LANES.
I THOUGHT I HEARD REFERENCE TO MAYBE REVISITING.
THE PROFILE OF BOTH SAN FRANCISCO AND BEAVER AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, IF TRAFFIC IS GREATLY REDUCED, I AM NOT SURE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT I HEARD A RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT TO SEE LONE TREE CORRIDOR GO FROM FOUR TO TWO LANES.
WELL, THAT'S THE WAY I READ IT, AND I'M NOT SURE AS FAR AS SHOULD WE TAKE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REEVALUATE.
WHAT WE WANT TO HAPPEN ON BEAVER AND SAN FRANCISCO IN THIS AREA, I'M VERY OPEN MINDED ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WORTHWHILE DISCUSSION.
YOU KNOW, I THINK MAYBE SOME OF THE CONFUSION WAS THE WITH THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THAT SHOWED US WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE WITH TWO LANES RATHER THAN THE FOUR.
BUT REALLY, THE ONLY DISCUSSION THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM CUTTING DOWN LANES WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, HAVING ONE LEFT TURN LANE AS OPPOSED TO TWO LEFT TURN LANES WITH SOME MORE REFUGE OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I GATHERED AT LEAST, AND I'M SEEING NODDING HEADS.
I WAS TRYING TO BE VERY SPECIFICALLY NON PRESCRIPTIVE AND JUST WITH GENERAL COURSES OF.
ENCOURAGEMENT AND CHALLENGING TO.
TO CONTINUE OUR DOWNSHIFTING IS TO WHERE FEASIBLE AND WHERE POSSIBLE, AND TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE COULD JUST BE SUBSIDIZING MORE TRAFFIC IF WE IF WE DON'T DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY.
ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ANY OTHER CLARIFICATION NEEDED FROM STAFF? YOU GOOD.
ALL RIGHT, THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 15 A.
[A. Future Agenda Item Request (F.A.I.R.) A Citizens' Petition requesting "the Council's approval of a character overall of the Southside Neighborhood." Council direction.]
THIS IS OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS A CITIZEN'S PETITION REQUESTING THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF A CHARACTER OVERALL OF THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD.AND WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS ONLINE TO PRESENT THIS.
SHAWN GOLIGHTLY AND ANNA [INAUDIBLE].
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YES.GO RIGHT AHEAD, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
HELLO, COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS SHAWN GOLIGHTLY.
APPRECIATE THE TIME TO SPEAK TODAY ON THIS AGENDA ITEM REQUEST.
SO I'D LIKE TO JUST BRIEFLY GIVE A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT'S HOW THIS AGENDA ITEM REQUEST CAME ABOUT.
WHAT IT INVOLVES AND WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY REQUESTING FOR IT.
SO THE REQUEST IS FOR A IS FOR A COUNCIL TO WORK ON A CHARACTER OVERLAY FOR THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY, THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THIS REQUEST CAME ABOUT ORGANICALLY THROUGH A LOT OF NEIGHBORS HERE IN THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY OF WHICH I AM ONE.
I LIVE IN THE SOUTH SIDE WITH MY WIFE, WHO IS ACTUALLY CURRENTLY EXPECTING CHILD AT THE END OF NOVEMBER.
ANNA, WHO IS ALSO HERE TONIGHT, IS MY NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
SHE IS RAISING HER YOUNG CHILD IRIS, AND WE ARE CONNECTED AND FRIENDS WITH A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS WE LIVE WITH IN THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY.
MONTHS BACK, IT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THE WAY DEVELOPMENT WAS PROGRESSING IN THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS HAD THE POTENTIAL TO FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, GET OUT OF CONTROL.
THAT IS TO SEE THE SOUTH SIDE DEVELOPED INTO A PLACE THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE HABITABLE FOR FAMILIES.
AND AS PEOPLE WHO WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BUY HOMES HERE IN THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD MANY YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE, WE HAVE PUT DOWN ROOTS HERE AND WE INTEND TO RAISE OUR FAMILIES HERE.
IRIS, ANNA'S DAUGHTER IS LEARNING TO RIDE A BICYCLE THROUGH THE STREETS, AND AS I SAID, I'M EXPECTING A CHILD MYSELF AND I WOULD LIKE TO VERY MUCH SEE THIS BE THE HOME THAT WE THAT WE CAN MAKE FOR OUR CHILDREN.
AS SOME AS MY NEIGHBORS AND SOME OF THE OTHER FAMILIES IN THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY STARTED BECOMING AWARE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH DEVELOPMENT IN THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY.
WE STARTED GETTING TOGETHER AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE COULD DO AS NEIGHBORS TO TRY AND HAVE SOME INPUT INTO THE WAY THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BEING DEVELOPED.
WE KNOW THAT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
THERE'S NO STOPPING THAT, BUT WE DECIDED THAT WE COULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, GROUP TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO HAVE HAVE A SAY IN THE FUTURE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THE FUTURE OF OUR FAMILIES LIVES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE WORKED WITH SOME PEOPLE, INCLUDING HERITAGE PRESERVATION OFFICER MARK [INAUDIBLE], WHO I BELIEVE IS ALSO IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT TO COME UP WITH AN IDEA OF USING A CHARACTER OVERLAY THAT WOULD TAKE STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES.
BUILT COLLABORATIVELY THROUGH SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORS AND USING THIS CHARACTER OVERLAY TO ESSENTIALLY JUST ENACT SOME KIND OF RESTRAINT ON THE DEGREE TO WHICH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CAN BE DEVELOPED.
SO TO THAT END, WE STARTED HAVING OH OH, COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU WERE, WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE STARTING TO DO OR HOW IT STARTED? YES.
SO WE GOT TOGETHER IN IN GROUPS AND WE STARTED PLANNING MEETINGS, AS YOU KNOW, AS NEIGHBORS DO.
WE INVITED MARK [INAUDIBLE] INTO OUR MEETINGS.
WE STARTED CONCEIVING OF THIS CHARACTER OVERLAY.
AT THIS POINT, WE REACHED OUT TO LOTS OF OTHER NEIGHBORS, INCLUDING THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AND DEB HARRIS, WHO WAS ACTUALLY IN ATTENDANCE THERE AS TONIGHT.
AND FOR ALL THIS, WE KIND OF GARNERED CONSENT IN THE IDEA THAT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE A AN OVERLAY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WHAT I'M REALLY ASKING FOR TONIGHT WITH THIS PETITION THAT HAS BEEN PUT FORWARD IN COUNCIL IS TO REALLY TAKE THIS SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY OVERLAY AND WORK IT INTO THE ACTION PLAN FOR FUTURE MEETINGS.
I THINK COUNCIL WILL AGREE THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF A CHARACTER OVERLAY THAT IS LOOKING FOR A HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND SORT OF JUST QUALITY OF LIFE PRESERVATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY MUCH IN KEEPING WITH THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN.
AND SO I THINK THAT ADOPTING A WORK PLAN FOR THIS CHARACTER OVERLAY FOR THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD BE SOMETHING OF A NO BRAINER FOR THE FOR THE COUNCIL.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AS I SAID, A WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS.
THIS COMMUNITY OVERLAY WORKED INTO COUNCIL'S, YOU KNOW THIS ITEM ADVANCE INTO THE COUNCIL'S FUTURE WORK PLANS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT.
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THE FLOOR IS YOURS.THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TONIGHT, AND I THINK THAT WHAT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT SHAWN HAS ALREADY SAID IS THAT THIS HAS BEEN REALLY A WONDERFUL EFFORT TO BE A PART OF AND IT'S BEEN AN EFFORT THAT HAS HAS KIND OF SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE BLOCKS HERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
AND WE'VE GOTTEN TO TALK TO A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
AND SO I'M SURE YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A LETTER AND THERE'S ALSO A PETITION THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FOLKS SIGN.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THIS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE SORT OF BEEN WAITING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO COME ABOUT.
SO IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE TO BE A PART OF IT.
AND I HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE AND ASKS ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE AND AND THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? I HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.
SO IF WE IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THEN IS THE NEXT DISCUSSION, WHETHER TO HAVE THIS OVERLAY.
IF I MAY, I WOULD SUGGEST IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD, WE PROBABLY SHOULD START THAT DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE WITH THE WORK SESSION AND HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE OVERLAY PROCESS, WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE.
THERE'S A LOT OF NEWNESS TO THIS, SO MAYBE A WORK SESSION WOULD BE A GOOD STARTING POINT.
COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY [INAUDIBLE].
SO I DON'T KNOW IF TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT TO ASK THIS QUESTION OF SARAH DECKER OR IF IT WOULD BE IN THE WORK SESSION.
BUT I GUESS I WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE INTERRELATIONSHIP IS BETWEEN A CHARACTER OVERLAY AND THE SOUTH SIDE PLAN.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
COULD YOU MAYBE JUST SPEAK TO THAT? OH OK, THANK YOU.
MAYOR DEASY AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY THE REST OF COUNCIL.
THE SOUTH SIDE PLAN IDENTIFIES SEVERAL HISTORIC FOCUS AREAS.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OK? [INAUDIBLE] SORRY.
THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN IDENTIFIES SEVERAL HISTORIC FOCUS AREAS ON THE IN THE GOALS AND POLICIES.
THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THEM IS THAT WE WORK ON OVERLAYS AND OTHER ZONING PROTECTIONS FOR THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN PETITIONED FOR TONIGHT IS ONE OF SEVERAL WAYS THAT THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED.
I KNOW DAN SIMON IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE TEAMS MEETING VIRTUALLY IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ZONES AND OTHER THINGS, BUT THAT CAN ALSO WAIT FOR A WORK SESSION.
I WILL SUPPORT THIS [INAUDIBLE] TO MOVE FORWARD TO A FUTURE COUNCIL WORK SESSION.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS.
YES, I THINK THIS IS WORTH WORTHY OF SOME FUTURE DISCUSSION, AT THE VERY LEAST, A WORK SESSION TO SO THAT WE CAN THOROUGHLY UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS, THE TRADE OFFS, HOW IT INTERRELATE WITH OTHER PLANS, THE WHOLE.
YOU KNOW, JUST MAKE US SMART ON THIS.
I SAW THIS AND I JUST I HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS.
TECHNICAL ZONING, HOW IT FITS WITH THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE STICKING BY AND I'M WILLING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
ACTUALLY, I'M PRETTY INTRIGUED BY WHAT THAT ALL MEANS FROM THE MORE TECHNICAL ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE AND HOW WE WHAT WE CAN DO.
SO I AM IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD.
I SEE A NOD FROM VICE MAYOR AND [INAUDIBLE].
ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GOOD TO GO THEN.
AND, SHAWN, CONGRATULATIONS, BY THE WAY, I DIDN'T SAY THAT AFTER YOU SPOKE.
I WAS JUST GOING TO COMMENT THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING IT FORWARD AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.
WELL, THAT WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 15 B, THIS IS A FAIR REQUEST BY COUNCIL
[B. Future Agenda Item Request (F.A.I.R.): A request by Councilmember Shimoni to place on a future agenda a discussion regarding temporary urban camping in parks, along streets/public property, on private property, and in cars. Council direction.]
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MEMBER SHIMONI TO PLACE ON A FUTURE AGENDA A DISCUSSION REGARDING TEMPORARY URBAN CAMPING AND PARKS ALONG STREETS, PUBLIC PROPERTY, ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IN CARS.SO, YES, THE FUNNY THING YOU KNOW ABOUT THESE NEXT TWO FAIR ITEMS, AS YOU KNOW, IS THESE ARE BOTH IDEAS THAT WERE BASED IN EUGENE, OREGON, AND I'M ACTUALLY AT THE AIRPORT ABOUT TO BOARD MY FLIGHT TO EUGENE TO VISIT THESE EFFORTS MYSELF FIRSTHAND AND LEARN FIRSTHAND FROM THOSE INVOLVED.
THE PROS AND CONS WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT WORKING.
BUT THIS FIRST AGENDA ITEM REQUEST IS ABOUT THE TEMPORARY URBAN CAMPING PILOTS.
I BELIEVE THEY ARE THAT EUGENE IS DOING THAT ARE BROKEN UP INTO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, ONE BEING IN PARKS, ONE BEING ALONG STREETS AND PARK PUBLIC PROPERTY AND THEN ONE BEING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THEN THE LAST ONE BEING IN CARS.
AND THEY'RE BASICALLY IDENTIFYING OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND THAT THEY'RE ALLOWING FOR TO COMPLEMENT THEIR THEIR CAMPING BAN THAT IS IN PLACE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND SO I JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS REALLY INTRIGUING THAT THEY WENT AHEAD WITH WITH IDENTIFYING SOLUTIONS THAT I THINK WERE A NICE MIDDLE GROUND WAY TO MOVE US FORWARD.
EVEN WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF ON THIS TOPIC, WHICH I KNOW IS EXTREMELY, YOU KNOW, POLITICAL AND DIVISIVE, AND FOLKS HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS.
I FEEL LIKE THIS MIGHT BE A NICE MODEL FOR US TO CONSIDER AND LOOK INTO AS A COUNCIL BODY.
AND YEAH, I'M CURIOUS IF THERE IS SUPPORT.
AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO VISITING THIS MYSELF FIRSTHAND.
YOU MADE THE CHOICE TO MAKE THIS VERY BROAD.
AND I'M WONDERING WHY THAT WAS.
YOU KNOW, IN MY EXPERIENCE, I WANT TO KEEP THINGS BROAD ENOUGH THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.
NOT TO BE CONSTRAINED BY THE THE LANGUAGE IN THE FAIR.
BUT I DID SPECIFICALLY OUTLINE THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT EUGENE ALSO OUTLINED IN THEIR APPROACH.
SO I DID SPECIFICALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN BASICALLY LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SEE IF ANY OF THAT MAKES SENSE FOR US IN OUR OWN WAYS AND ALSO BE ABLE TO ADD TO THE IDEA, OF COURSE.
DOES THAT HELP? IT DOES, THANKS.
I WILL NOTE THAT CAMPING IS ALLOWED.
UNDER CERTAIN ZONING CONDITIONS LIKE KOA AS CAMPING.
SO THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THE CODE TO ALLOW CAMPING.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, I WOULD JUST RESPOND AND SAY, I AGREE WITH YOU.
THIS IS MORE FOR THE UNSHELTERED POPULATION THAT I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND IS AN AREA OF CONCERN FOR JUST, I THINK A LOT OF US IN THE WAY THAT WE ARE ARE CO-INHABITING THE TOWN OF FLAGSTAFF ANYWAYS.
YEAH, I GUESS THOSE ARE MY RESPONSE TO THAT.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, I WOULD BE OK WITH MOVING THIS FORWARD FOR A DISCUSSION, BUT NOT SAYING HOW I WOULD BE IN THE END ON THE ISSUE.
I JUST KNOW THAT THIS SUMMER WITH THE RAFAEL FIRE, WE WERE SCRAMBLING, MAKING MAKING CALLS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE FOLKS COULD GO WHEN ALL THE NATIONAL FORESTS WERE CLOSED DOWN.
I MEAN, WAL-MART DIDN'T WANT THE INDIVIDUALS IN THEIR LOT, NAU WAS ABLE TO OPEN THEIRS UP FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
BUT I WAS ON THE PHONE CALLS, CALLING CHURCHES, CALLING THE ELKS LODGE, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A PLACE TO GET SOME, JUST SOME LOCATION TO GO WHEN THE FORESTS WERE CLOSED.
SO IN THAT CONTEXT, I CAN SEE SOME VALUE IN THIS DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK WE MIGHT JUST BE THE TWO OF US HERE COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
YEAH I HEAR YOU MY MY CLOSING COMMENT, MAYOR, IF I CAN JUMP IN REALLY QUICK.
IT'S JUST THAT I'VE SEEN THIS, AS YOU KNOW, MY THREE YEARS ON COUNCIL, I'VE SEEN THIS TOPIC COME UP AND FAIL EVERY TIME AND I GET WHY THAT'S THE CASE.
BUT I REALLY FELT LIKE THIS APPROACH WAS THE RIGHT APPROACH TO FIND COMMON
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GROUND AND POTENTIALLY EXPAND OUR SERVICES FOR THE COMMUNITY.BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF CLIMATE REFUGEES FROM TIME TO TIME.
THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING OUT OF THEIR VEHICLES TODAY, AND IT'S A SCRAMBLE.
IT'S NOT A GOOD EXPERIENCE AND WE RARELY HEAR FROM THEM.
WE BASICALLY NEVER HEAR FROM THEM AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.
SO AND GETTING TO KNOW THEM MYSELF, I THINK THAT THEY REALLY ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS IDEA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
BUT IF THERE'S NOT SUPPORT JUST TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, THEN THERE'S NOT SUPPORT AND THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, AND PART OF THAT WOULD BE FOR ME TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT ANY OF THIS TYPE OF ROUTE, IF IT DID GO ON IN THE FUTURE, WOULD HAVE SERVICES AVAILABLE.
AND YEAH, I'D I WOULDN'T WANT A FREE FOR ALL, BASICALLY.
AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE WHAT WHAT THEY NEED FROM RESTROOMS OR ANYTHING ELSE BUT VICE MAYOR.
IF WE I'M OPEN TO HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT HAVING A DEDICATED SPACE WHERE AS THE MAYOR SPELLED OUT WITH SERVICES AND WHATNOT AND ALSO A PLAN FOR NEXT SUMMER, IF THE IF AND WHEN THE FORESTS ARE CLOSED, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN REOPENING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT CAMPING IN PARKS OR ALONG STREETS.
BUT IF IF WE WANT TO FOCUS ON A SPECIFIC LOCATION AND A PLAN FOR WHAT TO DO WHEN THE FORESTS ARE CLOSED.
SEE STERLING GRABBING THE MIC HERE.
SORRY, COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT.
VICE MAYOR, THE WAY THIS AND YOU ASKED WHY IT WAS WORDED SO BROADLY, THE WAY THIS FAIR IS WORDED ISN'T SPECIFIC TO SITUATIONS LIKE THE RAPHAEL FIRE, FOR EXAMPLE.
IT'S VERY BROAD ABOUT URBAN CAMPING IN PARKS, ALONG STREETS AND PUBLIC PROPERTY.
AS A RESULT, IF THERE'S A SEPARATE CONVERSATION THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE ON THAT, IT WOULDN'T BE THROUGH THIS FAIR.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR.
I JUST WANTED TO VOICE SOMETHING THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD THIS EVENING ABOUT THIS, AND THAT IS THAT WHENEVER WE GIVE THE THUMBS UP FROM ONE OF THESE THINGS, IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR STAFF.
THERE'S THERE'S AN INVOLVED PROCESS THAT GETS ROLLING.
AND I KNOW THAT OUR MANAGEMENT AND LEADERSHIP ARE HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER WE ASK THEM TO.
BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AND SOMETHING THAT TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF LEARNING FOR THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL WHEN SEVERAL OF US WERE NEW ON IT.
AND THESE THINGS CAN SNOWBALL AND ADD UP AND REALLY BECOME A LOT OF.
IF WE'RE JUST GIVEN THE GREEN LIGHT TO LET THESE IDEAS MOVE FORWARD OUT OF A SENSE OF.
OF SOLIDARITY WITH EACH OTHER.
THERE REALLY DOES NEED TO BE A FILTER THAT WE APPLY TO THESE THINGS WHERE WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THE CONVERSATION THAT IS THAT IS GOING TO BE FACILITATED AND THE POSSIBLE DIRECTION THAT COMES OUT OF IT.
AND I'M A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED.
I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION.
YOU'RE RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
THIS CONVERSATION HAS COME UP NUMEROUS TIMES OVER THE PAST TWO COUNCILS, AND THIS COMMUNITY IS NOT READY FOR THAT.
AND IT'S I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DEDICATE ADDITIONAL TIME TO VETTING THIS OUT ANY FURTHER UNTIL SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL SHIFTS IN.
THE GENERAL COMMUNITY'S APPETITE FOR THIS SORT OF THING.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN WITH THAT, I DON'T SEE WE HAVE DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT I WILL KICK IT BACK TO YOU HERE COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI FOR ITEM 15C
[C. Future Agenda Item Request (F.A.I.R.): A request by Councilmember Shimoni to place on a future agenda a discussion about Eugene, OR efforts to house their unsheltered through the Square One Villages. Council direction.]
REQUEST BY COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI TO PLACE ON A FUTURE AGENDA A DISCUSSION ABOUT EUGENE, OREGON EFFORTS TO HOUSE THEIR UNSHELTERED THROUGH THE SQUARE ONE VILLAGES.OK, SO I LEARNED ABOUT THE SQUARE ONE VILLAGES A WHILE BACK BY SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION.
AND VICE MAYOR, THIS MIGHT BE MORE UP YOUR ALLEY AND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING FROM THAT LAST AGENDA ITEM IN REGARDS TO A SPECIFIC PLACE IN A SPECIFIC EFFORT.
AND THERE'S A GREAT WEBSITE SQUAREONEVILLAGES.ORG THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN EUGENE.
BUT I BELIEVE IT IS ALL ACROSS THE NATION AND THERE'S NUMEROUS SPOTS
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THAT ARE PROVIDING THIS, AND IT'S A SELF-GOVERNING, TINY HOME COMMUNITY.AND I JUST READ THE I THINK IT'S THEIR MISSION STATEMENT, A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE UNHOUSED THAT PROVIDES STABLE AND SAFE PLACES TO BE THROUGH COST EFFECTIVE APPROACHES FOR TRANSITIONING THE UNHOUSED TO MORE SUSTAINABLE LIVING SITUATIONS.
IT'S A TRANSITIONAL, TINY HOME VILLAGE.
30 UNITS ON ONE ACRE IS WHAT THEY HAVE SET UP.
IT'S BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE 2013.
THE PROGRAM FEE IS $35 A MONTH.
TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THERE MIGHT BE ADDITIONAL FEES, I'M NOT SURE, BUT AGAIN, I AM GOING TO GO OUT AND VISIT THIS MYSELF AND AND SEE MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
I AM UNDERSTANDING, OF COURSE, OF THE FACT THAT THAT WE HAVE COMMUNITY PARTNERS DOING DIFFERENT EFFORTS WITH MOTELS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THIS COULD BE JUST ANOTHER THING TO ADD TO THE LIST.
AND ALSO WITH, YOU KNOW, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, THERE'S STARTER HOMES.
THIS MIGHT JUST BE ANOTHER TOOL IN OUR TOOL CHEST TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS ANOTHER TOPIC I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SINCE I GOT ELECTED IN TERMS OF HOW TO HOW TO BRING THIS FORWARD AND GET SOMETHING GOING.
SO IF THERE IS FOLKS IN SUPPORT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
BUT YEAH, I THINK THIS IS REALLY COOL AND REALLY COOL OPPORTUNITY, AND I DO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC PLACES IN MIND.
VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL IN TERMS OF LOCATIONS THAT THE CITY OWNS.
BUT YEAH, CURIOUS TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS AND IF FOLKS ARE OPEN TO THIS ONE.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
I DON'T THOROUGHLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS, BUT I DO THINK IT IS WORTH THE DISCUSSION.
YOU KNOW WHAT I SHOULD HAVE DONE BEFORE THIS MEETING, AND IT DIDN'T EVEN OCCUR TO ME WHEN I READ THIS IS MAYBE LOOK UP SQUARE ONE VILLAGES AND, YOU KNOW, EDUCATE MYSELF ABOUT WHAT IT IS ON THE WEB.
I THINK MAYBE IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THAT MIGHT BE THE FIRST STEP AS OPPOSED TO INVESTING A LOT OF STAFF TIME ON IT.
SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO GO AT LEAST THAT FAR.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
SO MY FIRST COMMENT IS I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS IF IT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
I'M OPEN TO HAVING, I'M OPEN TO HAVING THE DISCUSSION.
WHAT I DON'T WANT IS FOR US TO BE CREATING NEW PROGRAMS UP HERE, BUT IF IT'S.
I MEAN, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS CONTEMPLATED IN OUR COMMUNITY BY ANY OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, I WOULD FEEL MUCH BETTER.
KNOWING THAT THERE'S SOME SUPPORT FOR IT OUT THERE AND THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS.
I DON'T LIKE TO BE [INAUDIBLE].
WHEN I'M UP HERE, AND THAT'S BECAUSE I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON MUCH OF ANYTHING, BUT I DO CARRY A COMMUNITY VOICE FORWARD.
THIS JUST FEELS A LITTLE BIT TOO PRESCRIPTIVE TO ME.
IT FEELS TOO SPECIFIC, IT FEELS PROGRAMMATIC IN ONE PARTICULAR DIRECTION.
AND I THINK IT'S AN INTRIGUING IDEA.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE MOVING FORWARD WITH WITH SOME OF THE CONCEPTS HERE WITHOUT BRINGING THIS SQUARE ONE VILLAGE MODEL SPECIFICALLY INTO THE PROCESS.
AND MY CONCERN IS THAT OUR STAFF IS GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD RESEARCHING SQUARE ONE VILLAGES.
AND I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS AS A SURGICAL APPROACH THE THE THE CORRECT WAY FORWARD HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, IF YOU'D LIKE TO RESPOND FIRST BEFORE I TURN IT TO SALAS, YOU'RE WELCOME.
IS IT IS THAT OK IF I QUICKLY RESPOND? YES, THAT'S ALRIGHT.
YEAH, COUNCIL MEMBER AS I HEAR YOU AND I AGREE WITH YOU TO AN EXTENT, WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS IS OFTEN IT'S EASY TO START WITH AN EXAMPLE THAT'S SIMILAR AND LEARN ABOUT THAT.
AND BY GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF LEARNING WITH STAFF AND WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE RIGHT APPROACH APPEARS AND WE CAN PIVOT AT THAT POINT AND WORK TOWARDS THE RIGHT APPROACH.
THAT MAYBE IS MORE OF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING, BUT THAT'S DOWN THE LINE.
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WE'RE NOT THERE YET.YOU KNOW, THIS IS SO I IDENTIFIED THIS AS AN EXAMPLE TO TO RESEARCH AND START WITH, BUT I COULD SEE THIS SHIFTING AT SOME POINT, DEPENDING ON COUNCIL DIRECTION IN THE VICE MAYOR'S POINT, COMMUNITY INPUT AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP PARTNER WITH US IN THIS EFFORT SO THAT IT'S NOT ADDITIONAL PROGRAM TO THE CITY.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY MOVING FORWARD.
I JUST THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO START WITH AN EXAMPLE THAT'S WORKING IMPROVED ANYWAYS.
I SHARE THE VICE MAYOR'S AND COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN'S PERSPECTIVES.
I DON'T SUPPORT THIS AS AS A AS FAIR, BUT THIS KIND OF THIS TYPE OF CONVERSATION CAN BE PUT OFF CAN BE DISCUSSED AT THE CURRENT HOUSING PLAN DISCUSSION THAT WE ARE HAVING AS A COMMUNITY BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR FROM OUR PARTNERS.
AND AND, OF COURSE, OUR HOUSING STAFF AND HOUSING COMMISSION AS THEY AS THE COMMUNITY, THE HOUSING STAFF AND THE COMMISSION AND THE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED IN THE IN.
IN DEVELOPING THE HOUSING PLAN, IF THIS IS ONE OF.
THERE ARE MANY OPTIONS SOLUTIONS IN ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS AND THAT THAT WHOLE SPECTRUM CONTINUING CONTINUUM OF SERVICE FROM FROM HOMELESSNESS TO HOMEOWNERSHIP.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE BEST THING TO DO AT THIS POINT WOULD BE TO SEND THIS TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION AND SAY, COULD YOU GUYS TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THIS AND SEE IF IT HAS ANY POTENTIAL AND IF IT WOULD FIT INTO THE BIGGER PICTURE OF WHAT THE HOUSING COMMISSION IS DOING? RATHER THAN US ADDRESSING THIS AS A SPECIFIC IDEA, I MEAN, I'M I'M GOING TO LOOK THIS UP ON THE WEB.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING.
SEND IT TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION AND SEE IF THEY COULD SPEND A LITTLE TIME ON IT.
AND IF THEY CAN CONJURE UP OR IDENTIFY STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN ABSOLUTELY SPONSORING.
WELL, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I MEANT WHEN I SAID, HAVE IT TIE IN TO THE THE BROADER GOALS THAT THE HOUSING COMMISSION HAS.
THERE MAY BE POTENTIAL THERE, I DON'T KNOW.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
I DID GO TO THE WEBSITE AND IT ACTUALLY IS A VERY INFORMATIVE AND BEAUTIFUL WEBSITE, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ALL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND AND I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY THAT THE HOUSING COMMISSION SHOULD BE THE ONES TO INVESTIGATE THIS.
BUT THE WEBSITE IS VERY EASY TO READ.
IT'S GOT PHOTOS, IT HAS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.
WELL, I'LL JUST SAY, I KNOW, I KNOW.
WE'VE CHATTED A COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT THIS SHIMONI, AND I REALLY I REALLY LIKE THIS CONCEPT AND WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT.
I DO THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KICK THE IDEA INTO THE COMMUNITY WITH THE SERVICE PROVIDERS HOLDING THE MEETING HERE IN A WEEK OR TWO TO DISCUSS REALLY HOUSING PRIMARILY AS WELL AS ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THIS DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA AT THIS TIME.
I JUST I THINK IT NEEDS TO START THERE BEFORE WE DEVOTE STAFF TIME TO IT.
SO LET'S KICK THIS TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN OURS.
I JUST WOULD LIKE IT TO START FROM THAT COMMUNITY LEVEL.
WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, GO FIRST THAT'S FINE.
WELL, I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO FORMALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT THE VICE MAYOR IS THE COUNCIL LIAISON TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION.
COULD YOU AT LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE HOUSING COMMISSION OR STAFF ABOUT THAT AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME WAY THEY CAN MAYBE LOOK INTO THIS AND SEE? I HAVE A HUNCH THAT THERE'S SOME GOOD IDEAS HERE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT, SO, YOU KNOW, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS MOVING FORWARD, HOWEVER THAT LOOKS.
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I TOTALLY SUPPORT THE IDEA OF GOING BEFORE A COMMISSION WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH THIS FAIR PROCESS OR THROUGH VICE MAYOR AND THE COMMISSION LEADING IT, YOU KNOW, INTEGRATING THESE IDEAS.I JUST I THINK THAT THERE ARE GREAT THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND GREAT IDEAS, AND HOWEVER WE GO FORWARD IS FINE.
[INAUDIBLE] IS PROVIDING ONE AVENUE FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE FAIR PROCESS, WHICH IS KIND OF A DIRECT WAY TO APPROACH THE TOPIC, BUT MAYBE NOT ALWAYS THE BEST.
SO APPRECIATE THE DIALOG IN THE COMMENTS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO REPORTING BACK TO YOU ALL WHAT I LEARNED FROM BEING THERE ON THE GROUND.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS TO ALL OF OUR ATTENTION IN A PUBLIC FORUM LIKE THIS, AND IT DEFINITELY GAINS.
I CAN SAY FOR ALL OF US AROUND HERE THAT IT DEFINITELY CATCHES OUR EYES.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORTH AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS AND ON A DIFFERENT PLATFORM TO BEGIN WITH.
[16. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS TO/FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL, AND STAFF, AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS]
WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 16 INFORMATIONAL ITEMS, TWO FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS.WHY DON'T WE START ONLINE FOLKS? COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT.
GOOD DISCUSSIONS TODAY, I KNOW THAT WE HAD SOME HARD DISCUSSIONS AND I JUST WANT TO SAY GRATITUDE TO OUR STAFF FOR STICKING WITH IT AND STICKING WITH US AND THE COMMUNITY AND WORKING THROUGH THESE THINGS.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE TOO MUCH TO ADD TONIGHT OTHER THAN THAT.
BUT YEAH, I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A NICE WEEK AND I WILL BE IN RAINY EUGENE RIDING AROUND ON A BICYCLE, WHICH I'M PLANNING TO BUY TONIGHT.
BE WELL AND COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.
ENJOY YOUR TIME ON YOUR TRIP AS WELL AND LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING BACK WITH EVERYBODY SOON.
AND LET'S GO FOR COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN.
I LOOKED AT THE WORKING CALENDAR, AND I DON'T SEE ANY KIND OF PRESENTATION FROM NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTH CARE ON THEIR PROPOSED NEW CAMPUS.
CAN WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THEM? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, VICE MAYOR.
I DID HAVE A MEETING WITH STEVEN [INAUDIBLE] AND THE HE HAS INDICATED THAT HE'S BEEN REACHING OUT TO INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
THERE'S, IN HIS WORDS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO PROVIDE.
BEYOND THAT, I DID SUGGEST THE IDEA OF A FUTURE WORK SESSION THAT IS NOT OFF THE TABLE, BUT HE INDICATED A DESIRE TO MEET INDIVIDUALLY WITH COUNCIL PERSONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY HIM, IF IT LOOKS LIKE SOME HEADS ARE NODDING YES.
BUT THAT WAS MY RESPONSE FROM HIM.
AND YOU ASKED HIM SPECIFICALLY ABOUT COMING TO A WORK SESSION? YES, I WAS ON THE DVA BOARD WHEN HE PRESENTED TO THEM A FEW WEEKS AGO AND I THOUGHT IT WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.
IT ACTUALLY WAS NOT HIM WHO WAS PRESENTING.
BUT YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT A SIMILAR PRESENTATION TO THIS COUNCIL WOULD BE GOOD.
I WILL CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT IF THAT'S THE DESIRE.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE END OF THE DISCUSSION BY ANY MEANS.
I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD ENJOY HAVING A PRESENTATION AND BEING ABLE TO SEE THEIR PLANS AT THIS POINT.
AND I HAVE MET WITH THEM AND I THINK PROBABLY MOST OF US HAVE.
BUT I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD ENJOY IT AS WELL.
ANYTHING ELSE, VICE MAYOR? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
WELL, JUST TO TOUCH ON WHAT THE VICE MAYOR WAS SAYING, I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS A FORUM TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE NEW CAMPUS.
NOW IF THAT'S BEING PROVIDED SOME OTHER WAY, MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE IT HERE.
BUT IF IT'S NOT BEING PROVIDED SOME OTHER WAY TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THEN IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL.
NOT SO MUCH FOR US, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC.
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MAYOR.TOMORROW IS THE EXCHANGE CLUB EVENT HONORING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND THEN ON THURSDAY IS THE DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF ANNUAL TOURISM AND ECONOMIC VITALITY STAKEHOLDERS AND PARTNERS EVENT.
AND THEN FRIDAY IS LEARNING ABOUT AQUIFER TESTING AT FORT TUTHILL WELL, NUMBER TWO.
AND ARDOT BOARD MEETING ON MONDAY.
WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO PUT FORTH THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUEST REGARDING A WORD THIS ACCORDINGLY LATER.
BUT A REBATE PROGRAM FOR SOLAR ON PEOPLE'S HOMES, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN TOWN.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT WAY FOR US TO HELP INCENTIVIZE ALTERNATIVE ENERGY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND TO GET MORE SOLAR PANELS ON HOMES.
SO I'D LIKE TO PUT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUEST FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS A SOLAR POWER REBATE PROGRAM OR ALTERNATIVE ENERGY REBATE PROGRAM, SIMILAR TO THE ONE WE ARE RUNNING FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
ASIDE FROM THAT, THAT ABOUT THAT, YEAH, THAT WAS THE MAIN THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
ALL RIGHT, CITY MANAGER, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US THIS EVENING? I DO NOT THANK YOU, MAYOR, THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.