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UM, YEAH, THAT'S.

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HE'S IN OUR CONFERENCE ROOM, I'LL HAVE TO FIX THAT IN JUST A MINUTE, BUT HE IS HERE.

UM.

[1. Call to Order]

[2. Roll Call NOTE: One or more Commission Members may be in attendance telephonically or by other technological means. DAVID ZIMMERMAN, CHAIR MARIE JONES, VICE CHAIR CAROLE MANDINO DR. ALEX MARTINEZ DR. ERIC NOLAN LLOYD PAUL DR. RICARDO GUTHRIE]

CAROL MANDINO.

HERE, LLOYD PAUL.

UM, DAVID ZIMMERMAN AND RICARDO GUTHRIE ARE BOTH EXCUSED.

YOU.

OK, SO NOT TO INTERRUPT, BUT LLOYD PAUL JUST JOINED, SO I'LL LET HIM SAY THAT HE IS NOW HERE.

PRESENT, SORRY FOR BEING LATE.

NO WORRIES, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ITEM THREE IS PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY SUBJECT WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON THAT DAY DUE TO OPEN MEETING LAWS, THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR ACT ON ITEMS PRESENTED DURING THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON AN ITEM THAT IS ON THE AGENDA.

PLEASE WAIT FOR THE CHAIR TO CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE TIME THE ITEM IS HEARD.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? AND I DON'T HEAR ANY, SO LET'S MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Approval of the minutes from the meeting on Wednesday, November 17, 2021.]

WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THOSE.

MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO AND I MIGHT REMIND EVERYONE TO TURN YOUR CAMERA OFF AND YOUR SOUND OFF IF UNLESS YOU'RE INTENDING TO SPEAK.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS NOVEMBER 17? MARIE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEONE WITH THEIR HAND UP, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS MISSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

OH, I'M SORRY.

OK, I SEE SOMEBODY THAT SAYS PLUS FOUR.

IS THAT INTENDED TO? EMILY YES.

YES.

OK, THANK YOU.

AND FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? YES.

MY NAME IS EMILY MILHORN AND MY ADDRESS IS 16 NORTH BENITO ST.

FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA 86001.

OK, THANK YOU.

MAY WE HAVE YOUR COMMENT, PLEASE.

YES, I WANTED TO SAY THAT I FULLY SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER, THAT WE CERTAINLY NEED MORE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS AND TO MAKE IT SAFE AND CONVENIENT AND EASY FOR ME.

I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU FOR JUST A MINUTE HERE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO THAT IS THAT IS AN AGENDA ITEM.

SO WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENT WHEN THAT AGENDA ITEM IS PRESENTED AND THERE WILL BE A TIME FOR THAT TOO.

OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I JUST JOINED IN AND I HEARD LIKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WAS LIKE, OH, WAIT, OH WAIT.

SO YEAH, YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

I'LL WAIT MY TURN.

OK, THAT'S GREAT.

NO PROBLEM.

OK.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO THE TO SEE IF THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO AND I MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF WEDNESDAY.

NOVEMBER 17, 2021 AS WRITTEN.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER NOLAN, I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

OK.

WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS.

WELL, THEN LET'S VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

AND NOW WE'RE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING STAGE, AND THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS

[A. PZ-21-00094-02: Mountain Line Downtown Connection Center (DCC) A Conditional Use Permit request from Mountain Line to allow for the use of City-owned property as a Passenger Transportation Facility which includes a multiphase development plan including the construction of a new 18,983 square foot structure, bus plaza, civic space, and parking in the Commercial Service (CS) zone, located at 216 W Phoenix Avenue. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: In accordance with the findings presented in this report, staff recommends approval of PZ-21-00094-02 with conditions. ]

THE DCC THAT THE MOUNTAIN LION DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER.

SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS.

SORRY, MARIA, I JUST HAD A SMALL TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.

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HOPEFULLY, YOU CAN HEAR ME AND SEE ME.

TIFFANY ANTOL, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

I'M GOING TO TURN OFF MY CAMERA TO SAVE BANDWIDTH WHILE I POP UP MY PRESENTATION.

PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE IT.

LOOKS LIKE IT'S UP.

PERFECT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.

TONIGHT I AM HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE MOUNTAIN LION DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER.

THE MOUNTAIN LION DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER IS CURRENTLY LOCATED AT 216 WEST PHENIX AVENUE AND IS ESSENTIALLY PROPOSED TO BE REDEVELOPED WITH AN EXPANSION IN THE EXISTING LOCATION.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

WHEN THE INITIAL USE WAS WHEN THE WHEN THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER WAS ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, IT WAS PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE CURRENT ZONING CODE AND THE CURRENT ZONING CODE NOW REQUIRES THAT PASSENGER TRANSPORTATION FACILITY OBTAIN A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES ZONE.

SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY IS PROPOSED IN THREE PHASES, SO THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF CURRENTLY SHARES THIS SPACE.

WE HAVE A STORAGE BUILDING WHERE YOU'LL SEE PHASE ONE LOCATED AND OF COURSE, THE EXISTING SORT OF IT'S THE BEST BAYS THAT EXIST NOW, ALONG WITH CITY PARKING.

AND THIS PARCEL IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE RIO TO FLAG PROJECT.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROJECT IS INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED OVER MULTIPLE PHASES.

PHASE ONE IS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY AND WILL OCCUR FIRST, MAKING SENSE.

PHASE ONE AND THE REST OF THE PROJECT WILL BE DEVELOPED AFTER THE RIO DE FLAG PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME FRAME ON THIS, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE IMMEDIATE, FORESEEABLE FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE BETTER TIME FRAMES.

WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THIS WILL BE UP AND COMING.

BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT PHASE TWO IS DELAYED UNTIL AFTER THE RIO DE FLAG IS COMPLETED, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SHOWS THAT PHASE ONE INCLUDES A NEW EIGHTEEN THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED EIGHTY THREE SQUARE FOOT TWO STORY BUILDING WITH ITS OWN AFFILIATED CIVIC SPACE.

AND THAT PHASE TWO INCLUDES MORE ADDITIONAL CIVIC SPACE, AS WELL AS AN AN ENLARGED BUS PLAZA AREA AND CITY PARKING.

THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS FOR CITY PARKING IN THE FUTURE WHEN THE ENLARGED BUS PLAZA IS DEVELOPED.

THE CITY HAS RESERVED THE ABILITY TO KEEP SURFACE PARKING, AS WELL AS THE POTENTIAL FOR A FUTURE PARKING GARAGE.

SO HERE IS THE PHASE ONE CONCEPT PLAN.

IT IS TO CONSTRUCT THE NEW CONNECTION CENTER BUILDING WITH CIVIC SPACE AND ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT IMPROVEMENTS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PLANET IS AN EIGHTEEN THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED EIGHTY THREE GROSS SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

IT MEETS THE CITY'S SITE PLANNING DESIGN STANDARDS WITH A BUILDING FORWARD DESIGN.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE ON THIS PLATE SITE PLAN THAT MOUNT LINE ANTICIPATES TO BE ABLE TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES ON THE PHENIX AVENUE RIGHT AWAY.

THESE ARE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THEY ARE ALSO SORT OF UNIQUE.

THEY ARE BACK IN SPACES WHICH ARE VERY BENEFICIAL TO BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS IN THE AREA THAT MAY BE ON THE STREET.

THESE TYPES OF PARKING SPACES PROVIDE BETTER ACCESS, AND WAIVER WAS GRANTED FROM OUR ENGINEERING STANDARDS.

TO SPECIFICALLY ALLOW THESE, THESE PARKING SPACES MAY STAY.

THEY MAY ALSO BE ALTERED DEPENDING UPON A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY ADOT FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PHENIX AVENUE AND MILTON ROAD INTERSECTION.

SO HERE ARE THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS FOR THE MOUNTAIN LINE DCC BUILDING.

I'M CALLING THIS STYLE OF BUILDING MOUNTAIN MODERN.

IT'S GOT MODERN ELEVATION LINES, BUT REALLY USING THAT THOSE TRADITIONAL FLAGSTAFF MATERIALS.

SO WE'VE GOT STONE, WE'VE GOT WOOD.

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THERE'S BOARD FORM CONCRETE, LOTS OF WINDOWS ON THE BUILDING.

THE BUILDING IS LOCATED IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, SO IT DOES NEED IT WILL BE BASICALLY USING A COMBINATION OF ELEVATING THE BUILDING ON WHAT IS CALLED THE LARGER SORT OF FOOTPRINT AROUND THE BUILDING IS A PLINTH WHICH IS SUPPORTING THAT LARGER BUILDING, PROVIDING SOME MORE CIVIC AND OPEN SPACE AROUND THE BUILDING.

AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING THAT NEEDS TO BE TREATED WILL BE FLOOD PROOFED.

HERE IS THE ELEVATION THAT YOU'LL SEE FROM MILTON ROAD.

THE BUILDING IS REALLY DESIGNED TO ORIENT ITSELF TOWARDS PHENIX, BUT IT HAS NOT JUST LEFT THE BACKSIDE OF OPERATIONS TO MILTON, IT IS STILL PROVIDING SOME STOREFRONT FRONTAGES.

THIS WILL BE A NICE ADDITION TO THE STREET FRONTAGE ALONG MILTON ROADWAY.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FINDINGS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PASSENGER TRANSPORTATION FACILITY IN THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES ZONE.

SO THE FIRST FINDING IS IF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OBJECTIVES OF THE ZONING CODE.

THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES ZONE IS INTENDED TO BE AN AREA OF THE CITY APPROPRIATE FOR SERVICE INDUSTRIES AND SUPPORT ACTIVITIES NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN VIABLE COMMERCIAL RETAIL TRADE CENTERS AND PASSENGER TRANSPORTATION FACILITY IS JUST THAT IT IS A SERVICE.

LISTED AS BEING APPROPRIATE AS A SUPPORTING ACTIVITY IN THAT COMMERCIAL SERVICES ZONE, AND ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE, THIS IS ALREADY AN EXISTING USE ON SITE.

SO FINDING TOO THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE AND STAFF BELIEVES THAT IS SO LONG AS THE OPERATION AS THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER IS OPERATED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT IT WILL.

IT IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO GENERATE NOISE, SMOKE ORDER, DUST, VIBRATION OR ILLUMINATION THAT THERE'S NO KNOWN HAZARDS AND THAT THERE'S NO UNUSUAL VOLUME OF CHARACTER OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS USE ALREADY DOES EXIST AT THIS LOCATION.

FINDING THREE IS ALL OF THE FINDINGS CRAMMED INTO ONE? IT'S 11 DIFFERENT PIECES, SO LET'S GO THROUGH THEM.

FIRST ONE UP IS ACCESS, TRAFFIC AND CIRCULATION, SO ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROVIDED FROM AN IMPROVED CITY RIGHT OF WAY.

AS THE PROJECT DEVELOPS, IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE MADE TO THE EXISTING EDGE IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING SIDEWAY, SIDEWALK AND PARKWAY, AND THIS INCLUDES MILTON, PHENIX AND PHENIX AS WELL.

SO YOU A BICYCLE ACCESS? I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I DO SEE A COUPLE OF HANDS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT CAN WAIT UNTIL AT THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION, OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ASKED NOW.

DO YOU MIND IF I SEE CAROL? WHILE I THOUGHT I SAW ERIC THAT WENT DOWN? CAROL, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO ASK NOW OR.

WELL, IT WAS.

I WANTED TO GO BACK TO ONE OF THE SLIDES SO EITHER WE CAN GO BACK TO IT LATER.

HOW ABOUT IF WE HOW ABOUT IF WE DO IT LATER AFTER THIS INITIAL PRESENTATION? OK, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ACCESS IS ACHIEVED THROUGH THE EXISTING ROAD NETWORK, BUT THE THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER PLAN, THE PHASE PLAN PHASE TWO SPECIFICALLY DOES INCORPORATE THE FOOTE'S TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH THE PHASE TWO PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, AS A PREVIOUSLY REFERENCED, IS CURRENTLY IN REVIEW FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PHENIX AVENUE MILTON ROAD INTERSECTION.

AND THIS TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS PRIMARILY UNDER REVIEW BY DOT, AS THEY'RE THE JURISTIC, THE THEY'RE THE GROUP WITH JURISDICTION OVER THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.

IN TERMS OF ADEQUACY OF THE SITE, THE CONCEPT PLAN PROVIDED CHOSE THE PROPOSED BUILDING, FLYING WITH ALL OF THE REQUIRED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES ZONE, INCLUDING SETBACKS, BUILDING HEIGHT AND FLOOR AREA RATIO.

THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY SHOWN UNDER 20000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH WOULD NOT REQUIRE CIVIC SPACE.

HOWEVER, ABUNDANT CIVIC SPACE HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR ALL PHASES OF DEVELOPMENT.

DEDICATED OPEN SPACE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED IN A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY.

IN TERMS OF NOISE, LIGHT, VISUAL AND OTHER POLLUTANTS, IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED THAT THE PROPOSED USE WILL CREATE ANY NOISE, VISUAL OR OTHER POLLUTANTS IN THE AREA.

ALL EXTERIOR LIGHTING WILL BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF STRICT OUTDOOR LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH SUPPORTS AND MAINTAINS OUR DESIGNATION AS AN INTERNATIONAL DARK SKY CITY.

IN TERMS OF STYLE AND SITING OF THE STRUCTURE AND RELATIONSHIP TO THE

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SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PROPOSED BUILDING HAS BEEN DESIGNED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SITE PLANNING, DESIGN STANDARDS AND THE ZONING CODE, AND THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS AS WELL.

THE SITE WILL BE LANDSCAPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ZONING CODE.

THE SITE CAN BE ADEQUATELY SERVED BY WATER AND SEWER, AND NO NEW OFF SITE INFRASTRUCTURE IS REQUIRED.

ANY NEW SIGNAGE WILL REQUIRE A SIGN PERMIT AND MUST COMPLY WITH CURRENT CODE, AND ANY NEW OUTDOOR LIGHTING AGAIN WOULD REQUIRE AN OUTDOOR LIGHTING PERMIT.

THERE'S NO FURTHER RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATIONS ANTICIPATED AND THE IMPACTS.

THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY, AND THE BUILDINGS ON SITE ARE CURRENTLY NOT OVER 50 YEARS OF AGE.

IN REGARDS TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, THE APPLICANT WENT WELL ABOVE AND BEYOND IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THEY'VE WORKED HARD TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, BECAUSE OF, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE BETWEEN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND MOUNTAIN LINE AS THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD.

SO THE APPLICANT DID HOLD THREE VIRTUAL MEETINGS ON SEPTEMBER 15 AND SEPTEMBER 30TH TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

A TOTAL OF 27 COMMUNITY MEMBERS PARTICIPATED IN THE VIRTUAL PUBLIC MEETINGS.

IN TOTAL, THEY RECEIVED THIRTY FIVE COMMENTS AND THAT, OF COURSE, WAS UP BY THE TIME A PREPARATION OF THE STAFF SUMMARY AND STAFF HAD RECEIVED ONE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I HAVE TWO EMAILS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION.

I BELIEVE SOME OF THOSE FOLKS MAY BE REPRESENTED AS.

UM.

AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TONIGHT IN THIS MEETING, SO I'LL ASK IF THEY WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND READ THEIR EMAILS OR IF THEY RATHER PRESENT THEM THEMSELVES.

BUT STAFF, THOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT I HAVE BEEN THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED TO DATE HAVE NOT BEEN IN REGARDS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE PASSENGER TRANSPORTATION FACILITY IS AN APPROPRIATE USE.

THEY HAVE BEEN IN REGARDS TO THE CIVIC SPACE AND PARKING AREAS LOCATED ON SITE, WHICH ARE AFFILIATED AND WILL BE CONSTRUCTED WITH THE PASSENGER TRANSPORTATION FACILITY, BUT ARE NOT REALLY THE TOPICS UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORM TO THE PLANS IS PRESENTED WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE NOT OCCUR UNTIL AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT HAS BEEN EXECUTED BY BOTH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND MOUNTAIN LION THAT DETAILS THE TERMS FOR THE USE OF THE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY.

THIS IS THE AGREEMENT THAT WILL OUTLINE FINAL REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING, AS WELL AS EXPECTED CIVIC SPACE LOCATED ON SITE.

ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE DEVELOPER? ONLY BECAUSE OF THE EXECUTED IGA SHALL BE REVIEWED BY THE INTER DIVISION STAFF FOR COMPLIANCE WITH ALL CODES AND REQUIREMENTS.

AND HONESTLY, A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES ARE MADE DUE TO THAT IGA.

THEN WE, OF COURSE, WOULD COME BACK AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

AND LASTLY, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL APPROVE THE ASSOCIATED PARKING DEMAND STUDY PRIOR TO THE SUBMISSION OF BUILDING PERMITS.

THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL AGREE TO PROVIDE THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FOR THE NEW DCC BUILDING WITHIN THE EXISTING AND FUTURE FUTURE PARKING AREAS ON SITE.

ORIGINALLY, WE HAD ANTICIPATED TAKING THAT PARKING DEMAND STUDY TO CITY COUNCIL AFTER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAD HEARD THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DUE TO TIMING CONSTRAINTS AND FULL AGENDAS.

THAT ITEM WAS HEARD LAST NIGHT BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY FOR THE DCC.

AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT PARKING DEMAND STUDY DOES IS IT IT REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF PARKING REQUIRED FOR THE NEW DCC BUILDING.

IN TOTAL, THAT PARKING DEMAND STUDY REDUCES BASICALLY FROM WHAT WOULD WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE BEEN 63 PARKING SPACES TO 15 PARKING SPACES.

THOSE 15 PARKING SPACES WILL BE ACCOMMODATED THROUGH EXISTING PAID PARKING WITHIN THE PARK FLAG INVENTORY.

AND WITH THAT, IF YOU SHOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND I CAN ALSO GO BACK TO SLIDES, I'M GOING TO STOP SHARING FOR A MINUTE SO I CAN SEE.

HOPE SO, SO THANK YOU, I KNOW THAT CAROL, YOUR HAND WAS UP PREVIOUSLY, SO I'LL TAKE YOU FIRST AND THEN ERIC.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS MANDY, I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE, I JUST I WASN'T SURE, AND

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I'M NOT ABLE TO READ THIS TO WHERE IT SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE BACK IN SPACES.

SO IT'S A SLIDE OF WHERE IT SHOWS SOUTH MIDDLETON, THE BUILDING AND PHOENIX AVENUE.

AND I JUST DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PUT YOUR CURSOR ON WHERE THOSE BACK END SPACES WOULD BE.

I SEE SOMETHING THAT SAYS BACKFLOW.

IS THAT THOSE ARE THE ITEMS? OK? AND THOSE WILL BE ANGLED.

THAT IS CORRECT.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND ERIC, DID YOU HAVE A WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION, YOUR HAND WENT DOWN? NO, I AM HERE, THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR MURRAY.

UM, TIFFANY.

SO I'VE BEEN DIGGING IN DEEPER ON THIS ISSUE OF WASTE AND WHAT I'M WONDERING ABOUT ALL NEW BUILDINGS OR EVEN RENOVATED BUILDINGS.

I'M CONSTANTLY THINKING ABOUT HOW MUCH WASTE IS BEING GENERATED.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ESTIMATE ON HOW MUCH WASTE WOULD BE GENERATED OUT OF THIS UPCOMING PROJECT, LIKE OVER A YEAR? I DO NOT.

OK.

SO.

I GUESS WHAT I'M WONDERING IS WITH THE SPACE THAT'S GIVEN AND WITH A DESIGN, THAT'S THERE ALL SIGNS THAT I HAVE SEEN IN THE RECYCLING INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S UP TO DATE IS THAT A LOT OF PLACES ARE STILL HAVING A BIG ISSUE WITH CONTAMINATION.

SO I'M WONDERING IN THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING AND IF NOT THIS ONE, I WILL CERTAINLY BE FUTURE ONES.

WE MAY NEED TO CONSIDER ACTUALLY PUTTING ASIDE MORE SPACE FOR WASTE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEPARATE IT MORE AT THE END USER POINT TO KEEP IT FROM BEING CONTAMINATED.

SO ALL THIS TO SAY.

HAS ANY THOUGHT AT ALL GONE INTO WASTE ON THIS? OR IS IT JUST THE STANDARD? IF THERE'S A SPACE FOR A DUMPSTER, THEN THEY MEET THE CODE.

SO, ERIC, THIS PROJECT IS A LITTLE UNIQUE IN THAT WE ARE COMING FORWARD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ONLY WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN.

THIS PROJECT IS A LITTLE UNIQUE BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING SOURCES AND THE ORDER IN WHICH WE NEED TO PROCESS THIS APPLICATION.

SO IN ORDER FOR CERTAIN STEPS TO HAPPEN, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DOES NEED TO HAPPEN FIRST.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE STILL WE'RE JUST GOING TO START THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS.

THEIR SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING WAS JUST SUBMITTED.

OF COURSE, AS PART OF THAT SITE PLAN APPLICATION, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THE STANDARD MATERIALS MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS THEN REVIEWED BY OUR SUSTAINABILITY STAFF.

SO WE ARE JUST BEGINNING TO START THAT PROCESS, BUT I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WOULD BE WILLING TO ADDRESS ANY ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF RECYCLING ON SITE.

OK.

AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN NOW OR LATER? I'M SORRY.

THE SITE? ARE YOU ASKING? WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT AS WELL.

RIGHT? YEAH.

YES, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND PREPARED TO PRESENT ON THIS CASE AS WELL.

OK, THANKS, STEPHANIE.

I AM I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT NOW OR WAIT CHAIR.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION, NOT FOR STAFF, SO LET'S GO AHEAD WITH YOURS.

THANK YOU, KATE.

WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.

COMMISSION MEMBERS, I'M KATE MORLEY.

I'M THE DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER OF MOUNTAIN LION, AND I WILL TRY TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS AS I GO THROUGH.

BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES UP, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM FOR YOU.

SO LET ME PULL UP MY SCREEN SHARING HERE REAL QUICK.

ALL RIGHT.

ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE MY SCREEN? NOT QUITE.

YEAH, IT IT'S A LITTLE FROZEN ON MY END.

WE.

THE I TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE ISSUES.

YOUR IMAGE IS GONE, BUT THE SCREEN'S BLACK.

OK.

OH, I'D LOVE TO SHARE JUST.

I CAN SEE I HAVE A SPINNING WHEEL IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME FOR A MOMENT.

DEADLY SPINNING WHEEL? I KNOW.

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WELL, I'LL GIVE I'LL GO AHEAD AND START TALKING WHILE MY COMPUTER TRIES TO CATCH UP WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.

CAN YOU JUST EMAIL IT TO ME REALLY QUICK AND THEN I CAN THROW IT UP? WE CAN USE THE SAME ONE FROM YESTERDAY, TIFFANY, IF YOU HAVE THAT.

OK, I'LL GO FIND IT.

OK.

OK.

THEN.

LET'S SEE, THANK YOU, TIFFANY.

SO, LIKE I SAID, I'M KATE MORLEY, I'M THE DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER HERE AT MOUNTAIN LION.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BRING THIS CAPITAL PROJECT IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TODAY.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT.

CAN YOU TRY AGAIN? YES.

BUT IS IT THERE NOW? YES, WE SEE WE SEE SOMETHING.

OH, GREAT, EXCELLENT.

I THINK IT'S WORKING.

ALL RIGHT.

LET ME.

ALL RIGHT.

HAVE YOU BEEN MOVED FORWARD, SO ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU IS OUR VISION FOR THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER.

IT'S OUR NUMBER ONE CAPITAL PROJECT AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME.

ACTUALLY, WE WROTE OUR FIRST GRANT TO EXPAND THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER IN 2017 AND THEN A SECOND GRANT IN 2019, WHEN WE REALIZED THE FULL SCOPE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE WANTED TO ACHIEVE.

BUT IT IS TO DEVELOP A WELCOMING, WARMING, COMMUNITY CENTERED DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER THAT HAS A MULTIMODAL FOCUS AT ITS ESSENCE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NEED FOR THE CONNECTION CENTER.

WE'VE BEEN ON THIS SITE SINCE 2008.

THE CHARTS IN FRONT OF YOU SHOW JUST HOW MUCH WE'VE GROWN SINCE THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

AND WHILE WE'RE REALLY AT MAXIMUM CAPACITY, I THINK AN IMPORTANT POINT HERE IS THAT THE CHART DOESN'T SHOW YOU ABOUT OUR HOPES FOR FUTURE GROWTH.

WE'RE ALREADY AT CURRENT CAPACITY.

WE'D LIKE TO ADD MORE.

WE BELIEVE THAT'S IN LINE WITH ALL THE CLIMATE ACTION PLANS THAT THE CITY HAS, BUT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANY ROOM TO PARK ADDITIONAL BUSSES DOWN ON THIS SITE.

AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO GROW THE TRANSIT SYSTEM AND FLAGSTAFF IN THIS PROJECT IS CRITICAL TO THAT.

WE'VE WORKED HARD ON PUBLIC FEEDBACK, THANKS TO TIFFANY FOR RECOGNIZING THAT IN ADDITION TO 14 PUBLICLY NOTICED MEETINGS WITH THE MOUNTAIN LION BOARD, WHICH ALL MEET THE SAME STANDARDS AS OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL SURVEYS ON THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY FORUM SEEKING FEEDBACK.

WE DEVELOPED A STAKEHOLDERS WORKING GROUP.

I SEE MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE ONLINE WITH US TODAY.

THERE WERE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE, THE CHAMBER AT THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE LA PLAZA VIEJA, NEIGHBORHOOD WRITERS AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND PEOPLE THAT WE CALL OWNERS OF PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT BE THE PARKS AND REC.

AS THE OWNER OF THE CIVIC SPACE OR PARK FLAG, AS THE OWNER OF PARKING.

SO WE'VE BEEN CONVENING AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF THAT GROUP AS WE'VE DESIGNED.

AND SOME OF THE MORE RECENT FEEDBACK WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY FORUM SURVEY THAT WE DID, OR THAT 67 PERCENT OF PEOPLE LIKED THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING, WE'VE STILL MADE SOME IMPROVEMENTS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU SEE.

I'LL SHOW SOME RENDERINGS IN A MOMENT.

AND THEN 78 PERCENT REALLY LIKED THE DESIGN OF THE CIVIC SPACE, WHICH WE THINK IS BOTH OF THOSE NUMBERS REPRESENT REAL POSITIVE NUMBERS TO US AND HOW THE COMMUNITY FEELS ABOUT THE PROJECT.

THE TIFFANY SHARED WITH YOU, THE SITE PLAN ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE 13 BEST BAYS THAT GIVE US SOME ROOM FOR GROWTH.

THERE'S A DROP OFF AREA OR KISS AND RIDE.

WE LIKE TO CALL IT SO THAT PARENTS CAN DROP SOME, PULL OVER SAFELY, DROP A CHILD OFF TO GET ON A BUS, TO GO TO SCHOOL OR DROP ANOTHER SPOUSE OFF TO GO ELSEWHERE, HOPING TO REDUCE TRIPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OVERALL.

WE ARE LOOKING AT OBVIOUSLY AT MOVING OUR ADMINISTRATION AND CUSTOMER SERVICES DOWNTOWN.

RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE DO HAVE TO COME ALL THE WAY OVER TO OUR OFFICES ON CASPER TO ACCESS ANYTHING LIKE PASS SALES.

THIS WILL BE REALLY CONVENIENT TO HAVE THAT DOWNTOWN.

TIFFANY MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE DRAWN IN FOOTE'S PATHS AND TRYING TO HAVE WIDE SIDEWALKS AND MAKE THIS A REALLY A TRULY MULTIMODAL HUB.

IT ALSO HAS CAPACITY FOR TOUR BUSSES OR THE GREYHOUND AND FLEX BUSSES TO ALL CONNECT AND TRULY MAKE THAT MULTIMODAL HUB.

AND YOU SEE CIVIC AMENITIES AND THEN UNDERLYING EVERYTHING HERE.

AND WHAT'S DRIVING A LOT OF THE SITE DESIGN IS ACTUALLY THE RIO DE FLAG PROJECT, WHERE THE CONFLUENCE COMES TOGETHER UNDERNEATH THE BUS BAYS AND PROHIBIT A LOT OF VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.

SO THAT IS A DRIVING FACTOR OF THE SITE DESIGN.

WE'RE EXCITED TO SHARE THE RENDERINGS OF THE BUILDING, WE THINK IT'S LOOKING REALLY GOOD.

THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THE BUS BASE TOWARDS THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING.

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I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE WE'VE WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE COMMISSION ON INCLUSION AND ADAPTIVE LIVING.

THEY REALLY HOPE FOR A UNIVERSAL DESIGN ACCESS INTO THE BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES THAT TIFFANY TALKED ABOUT.

WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE RISE RUN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE IF WE CAN CHANGE THAT THROUGH FINAL DESIGN AND FIND A WAY TO HAVE SOME UNIVERSAL ACCESS TO THE BUILDING.

AND THEN WE'VE WORKED HARD ON WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE FOR MILTON AS WELL, KNOWING THAT IT IS THE ENTRY INTO DOWNTOWN AND IT DOES SERVICE THE BACK OF THE BUILDING BEING THAT OUR FOCUS IS THE CUSTOMERS OF THE BUS CENTER.

BUT WE WORKED HARD WITH A NICE STAIRCASE THERE TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THE FRONT OF A BUILDING INSTEAD OF THE BACK.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE DESIGN.

WE THINK THERE IS SOME GOOD SUPPORT FOR IT.

I'M A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CIVIC SPACE DESIGN, THE IDEA BEING THAT IT WOULD TRANSFER FOR MORE OF A HARD ESCAPE INTO A NATURAL AREA WHERE THE RIO DE FLAG CURRENTLY FLOWS, BUT WILL BECOME MORE OF A SURFACE RUN OFF AREA THAN WHAT IS THERE AFTER THE RIO DE FLAG IS DONE? WE'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT A NICE SPACE, THOUGH, WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY OVERGROWN ACTIVATE THE NATURAL AREA INSTEAD OF JUST LETTING IT GO.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PARKS AND REC TEAM ON DESIGN WHO WOULD MAINTAIN THE SPACE IN THE FUTURE.

A QUICK RENDERING OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

WE WILL.

THIS IS ALL OBVIOUSLY CONCEPT, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO REFINE BOTH WITH THE ARTS COMMISSION THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED SOME FUNDING TOWARDS THE OVERALL PROJECT AND THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY.

UM PARKING HAS BEEN A BIG DISCUSSION OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO BALANCE ALL THE DESIRES FOR THE SITE AND THAT THE BALANCE THAT'S SHOWN IN FRONT OF YOU IS A VERY FAIR BALANCE FOR MEETING COMMUNITY DESIRES.

WE'VE ALSO WORKED HARD TO MAXIMIZE PARK FLAG'S INVENTORY BY SUGGESTING SOME OF THE PARKING REDUCTIONS THAT TIFFANY TALKED ABOUT AND THAT WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL LAST NIGHT.

WE'VE DEVELOPED TDM OR TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT POLICY TO REDUCE TRIPS TO THE SITE.

AND WE'RE WE WILL.

WE HEARD A CONCERN FROM THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR EMPLOYEES TO BE PARKING ON SOUTH SIDE STREETS.

WE'LL WORK WITH PARK FLAG TO MONITOR THAT AS WELL.

ADDITIONALLY, THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WORK OUT OF THIS SITE IS NOT THAT LARGE.

MOST MOUNTAIN LINE EMPLOYEES WILL STILL REPORT TO THE KASBAH OFFICES TO PICK UP AND DROP OFF BUSSES.

THEN THE OTHER DAY, DO MAINTENANCE.

SO WE ALSO THINK WE CAN JUST HAVE REALLY STRONG INTERNAL MESSAGING ABOUT NOT PARKING ON ROADS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

IF PEOPLE DO NEED TO DRIVE TO WORK AND WE WILL PAY TO PARK AND WE FUNDAMENTALLY SUPPORT PAID PARKING PROGRAMS. AND SO WE'LL LIVE BY THAT ETHIC WITH OUR EMPLOYEES AS WELL.

UM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PROJECT SCHEDULE.

TIFFANY TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE ARE SOME UNIQUE CONSTRAINTS WE HAVE TO DO A NEPA ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS FOR THE USE OF THE FTA FUNDS, AND THAT DOES REQUIRE OUR ZONING APPROVALS TO BE IN PLACE, WHICH IS WHY THERE'S KIND OF A FUNNY ORDER TO OPERATIONS HERE.

BUT IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVES THE CUP TONIGHT, THEN WE HOPE TO HAVE SHOVELS IN THE GROUND THIS SUMMER, AT LEAST BY STARTING TO DEMO THE BUILDING THAT'S THERE AND PREPPING SOME SITE WORK.

SO WE THERE'S MORE INFORMATION ONLINE.

WE ALWAYS TAKE COMMENTS AS WE PROCEED THROUGH FINAL DESIGN AS WELL TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONER'S QUESTION ABOUT WASTE REDUCTION.

I THINK WE'RE VERY OPEN TO IDEAS AND SOLUTIONS SINCE WE STILL ARE IN THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

ULTIMATELY, AT THIS POINT, THOUGH, IT'S REALLY A TRANSFER OF USES MORE THAN A NEW USE THAT'S COMING IN.

SO SOME OF OUR USES OVER AT KASBAH ARE MOVING DOWNTOWN, NOT A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE ADMIN DIVISION JUST TO MOVE OF THE ADMIN DIVISION.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING FOR A NET WASTE CHANGE AND HOPEFULLY A REDUCTION.

OVERALL, WE DO WORK HARD ON OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ETHIC HERE.

WATER BOTTLE FILLERS AND WE GOT RID OF PAPER PLATES AT EVENTS AND STUFF.

WE HAVE PLASTIC PLATES FOLLOWING THAT CUBE MODEL THAT'S OUT THERE.

SO YEAH, WE DO WORK HARD AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRY TO REDUCE WASTE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND IF OH, THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR, SO, KATE, YEAH, SO I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THAT THAT THIS IS ON YOUR RADAR AND SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE ALL ARE LOOKING INTO.

WHILE THE MAP WAS UP.

ONE THING THAT I WAS REALIZING, EVEN WITH THE PICTURE IN FRONT OF US, EITHER ONE.

THE BAYS ON WHERE THE BUSSES PULL OUT.

I KNOW AT THE GREYHOUND STATION I'VE TAKEN A LOT OF BUSSES WHERE PEOPLE ARE OBVIOUSLY TRAVELING ALONG A LOT FURTHER CORRIDOR THAT'S MORE REGIONALLY AND THEY REALLY DO NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT TRASH CONTAINERS, ESPECIALLY WHEN PEOPLE HOP ON BUSSES.

I WOULD IMAGINE ON SHORTER TRIPS LIKE THIS, I COMMUTE BY BIKE.

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ON SHORTER COMMUTES LIKE THIS.

I WOULD IMAGINE THIS WOULD STILL BE A DEPOT FOR WASTE.

SO IS THERE ANYTHING TO LOOK AT THE TYPE OF CONTAINERS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE RIGHT WHERE THE BUS BAY IS? SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE GETTING OFF A BUS, THEY GOT THINGS IN THEIR HAND TO THROW AWAY SOMETHING RIGHT THERE FOR THEM? YEAH, WE'LL DEFINITELY PUT CONTAINERS OUT ON SITE.

THEY'RE OUT ON THE PLATFORMS CURRENTLY AS WELL, BUT I THINK CURRENTLY WE JUST HAVE THE ONE TRASH CAN.

I THINK WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT THIS SIDE THAT HAVING RECYCLING AVAILABLE AS WELL.

AND THAT'S A GOOD COMMENT.

OK, THAT SOUNDS PROMISING, THANK YOU.

I THINK YOU ARE I HAVE A QUESTION IT'S ACTUALLY FOR STAFF.

JUST I WANTED TO CLARIFY THE PURPOSE OF OUR OF OUR DECISION TONIGHT.

AS FOR THE CUP AND YOU MADE THAT VERY CLEAR KNOW WHAT THE WHAT THE YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE MAKING THAT DECISION.

BUT YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT A SITE PLAN AND THERE'S I ANTICIPATE THAT A LOT OF THESE COMMENTS, INCLUDING MANY OF MY OWN, WOULD BE ABOUT PARKING IN THE CIVIC SPACE AND BASICALLY ABOUT THE SITE PLAN.

SO I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY BASICALLY THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE COMMENTING ON TONIGHT.

AND ALSO, IF THIS IS SORT OF THE LAST OPPORTUNITY TO BE COMMENTING ON THOSE ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO TIFFANY? I THINK SO, MARIE.

SO AS THE STAFF PERSON ON THIS PARTICULAR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, I'M WORKING IN A SORT OF UNIQUE SETTING, I WORK FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT I'M HERE TO REVIEW THE MOUNTAIN LINE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE CITY, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS GIVEN SPECIFIC DIRECTION IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WANT TO ACHIEVE FROM THE SITE IN REGARDS TO PARKING.

AND IN REGARDS TO CIVIC SPACE.

SO STAFF HAS WORKED WITH MOUNTAIN LINE IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS AND VISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.

SO IN TERMS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE, I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TONIGHT IS FOR THE PASSENGER TRANSPORTATION FACILITY, WHICH DOES INCORPORATE THE CIVIC SPACE AS WELL AS THE FUTURE CITY PARKING.

HOWEVER, THOSE THE CITY PARKING CURRENTLY EXISTS ON SITE AND THERE WAS A FAIRLY GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT AS WELL.

AND THAT'S BEEN DETERMINED AS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ARE OUR CITY NEEDS TO MAINTAIN.

SO WE WORK VERY HARD TO MEET THE NEEDS OF BOTH TO MEET THE IDEALS WITHIN THE SOUTHSIDE PLAN THAT TALKS ABOUT CIVIC SPACE AT THIS LOCATION, AS WELL AS PRESERVING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE RESOURCE THAT IS PARKING.

CERTAINLY, YOU CAN PROVIDE ANY COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK, AND WE CAN BE I CAN WORK TO RELAY THAT TO OUR IT'S SORT OF LIKE A WORKING GROUP AND HOUSE.

I'M NOT REALLY A PART OF IT.

THEY SORT OF KEEP ME OUT OF THE DETAILS IN BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND MOUNTAIN LINE.

I I, AS A STAFF MEMBER LIKELY WON'T BE INVOLVED IN THE IGA EITHER.

AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THE IGA WILL BECOME BEFORE COUNCIL AS WELL IN THE FUTURE.

BUT IN REGARDS TO HOW MUCH CIVIC SPACE OR HOW MANY PARKING SPACES THE CITY NEEDS TO ACQUIRE IS REALLY GOING TO BE AN ISSUE MORE FOR THE LANDLORD THAN IT IS FOR THE APPLICANT HERE TODAY, WHICH IS MOUNTAIN LINE.

SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MARIE? I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE IS.

IF AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC OUTREACH FOR THIS PROJECT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT I HEAR AND I WANT HIM.

I WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK TO THOSE CONCERNS OR WHETHER THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL ARISE AT A DIFFERENT STAGE.

AND I'M THINKING THAT THIS IS THE CHANCE FOR PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

THE ONLY CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THIS IS THAT.

SO THAT'S MY DIRECT QUESTION.

I BELIEVE THE IGA WILL GO BEFORE COUNCIL.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE AS PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.

AND OF COURSE, ANYBODY CAN APPROACH THE CITY COUNCIL AT ANY TIME WITH ANY OF THEIR

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PUBLIC COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK IN REGARDS TO THIS APPLICATION OR THIS PROCESS.

I JUST I GUESS MY ONLY POINT IS AS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AS YOU GO THROUGH THE FINDINGS AND YOU MAKE A DECISION, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I THINK COUNCIL ALWAYS LISTENS TO THESE MEETINGS AND IS LOOKING FOR ALL OF THOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AVENUES, AND I DON'T DISCOURAGE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE FINDINGS BEFORE YOU OR FOR THE PASSENGER TRANSPORTATION FACILITY, WHICH IS IS PRIMARILY THE BUS PLAZA.

YOU KNOW, THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT NIGHT OR THAT MOUNTAIN LINE WILL RECEIVE WILL ASSIST IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT CIVIC SPACE.

BUT THEN THE PARKING WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

SO I, YOU KNOW, IF IT' COMING DOWN TO.

I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IT'S JUST SPEAK TO IT AS YOU AS YOU FEEL YOU NEED TO.

I'M I'M SORT OF AT A LOSS OF WHAT TO TELL YOU, MARIE.

OKAY, GREAT.

NOW I JUST I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT CLARIFIED FOR THE RECORD.

BUT MEANWHILE, I'D LIKE TO ASK, I DON'T SEE OTHER HANDS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS POINT, SO I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

MARIE, REALLY QUICKLY.

I DO HAVE TWO EMAILS THAT I'VE RECEIVED.

ONE WAS FROM MICHELLE JAMES.

AND ONE IS FOR MAURY HERMAN.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF MICHELLE JAMES IS HERE TONIGHT OR IF SHE WANTS US TO READ THIS ONTO THE RECORD.

AND I DO BELIEVE MAURY IS HERE, AND I, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO READ THE EMAIL ONTO THE RECORD, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.

WELL, LET'S ASK THEM THOSE TWO PEOPLE.

I SEE MAURY'S HAND UP FIRST, SO WHY DON'T YOU START WITH WITH MAUREEN? THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING THE TIME FOR THESE COMMENTS.

I'VE WRITTEN ACTUALLY TWICE.

I WROTE A LONGER EMAIL A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND THEN WITH REGARD TO THIS EVENING, I JUST WROTE A VERY SHORT E-MAIL.

BUT.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, OUR FAMILY OWNS THE BEER STREET BREWERY PROPERTY, WHICH INCLUDES FERTILITY AND THE CSA AND AND PARKING AND THE VIABILITY OF THE BUSINESSES THERE ARE QUITE CONCERNING TO US AND THE IMPACT OF THE PARKING.

I ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVE GENERALLY BEEN A PARTICIPANT IN THE SOUTH SIDE DISCUSSIONS AND HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON A NUMBER OF THINGS.

THE FIRST ONE, WHICH WAS JUST A TECHNICAL COMMENT, IS IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WERE BEING ASKED TO MAKE A FINDING THAT THERE WAS NO NOISE OR POLLUTION ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

AND I THINK THERE'S A GOOD TRADE OFF TO HAVE THE TRANSIT CENTER HERE.

BUT ANY TIME YOU'VE GOT A BUS DEPOT, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME NOISE.

AND EVEN WITH ELECTRIC, I ASSUME SOME POLLUTION.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M IN THE.

I WONDER IF IT ISN'T BETTER TO THINK ABOUT A FINDING THAT SAYS, YES, WE'VE CONSIDERED THESE THINGS AND IN THE IN THE TRADE OFF.

THEY'RE ACCEPTABLE, THEN, TO SAY THERE AREN'T ANY, BECAUSE I EXPECT THERE WILL BE.

THE ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS THE LOCATION OF THE CIVIC SPACE RIGHT NEXT TO THE RAILROAD AND WHETHER THERE MIGHT NOT BE A BETTER SPACE FOR THAT.

AND I MADE SOME JUST SOME SUGGESTIONS IN MY LONGER LETTER AS TO HOW TO PURSUE THAT.

I'M WONDERING IF IT WERE ABLE TO FIND A BETTER LOCATION, WHETHER THIS LOCKS IT IN OR IS IT OPEN? I ALSO WOULD WONDER WHETHER WHEN OVER 70 PERCENT OF PEOPLE LIKE THE DESIGN OF THE OPEN SPACE, HOW MANY PEOPLE COMMENTED FAVORABLY ON ITS LOCATION BECAUSE IT FEELS VERY COMPROMISED IN TERMS OF THE NOISE AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THE ACTIVITIES YOU COULD HAVE? THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS HEARING THAT THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT WON'T TAKE PLACE UNTIL THE COMPLETION OF THE REAL PROJECT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT INCLUDES CERTIFICATION OF THE REAL PROJECT BY THE ARMY CORPS, WHICH WOULD EVEN TAKE LONGER.

I'M THINKING THAT 2028 IS SORT OF WHEN THE WHOLE PROCESS IS COMPLETE.

WHAT IS THE INTERIM USE OF THE REST OF THE FACILITY?

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I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'LL BE SOME CONSTRUCTION DISRUPTION.

DOES THE CURRENT PARKING COME BACK DURING THAT INTERIM USE? DOES IT JUST LIE FALLOW? WHAT IS THE PLAN IN THAT REGARD? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY? LET'S SEE, MICHELLE.

HELLO, YES.

I HAVE WRITTEN A LETTER, AND I'D LIKE TO EITHER READ THAT OR HAVE TIFFANY READ IT INTO THE RECORD.

WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND READ IT, BUT I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, IS THERE A REASON WHY WE DID? THE COMMISSIONERS DID NOT RECEIVE THESE LETTERS.

SO I JUST RECEIVED MICHELLE JAMES'S LETTER LAST NIGHT.

SO THAT WAS SHORT TIMING ON THAT.

MAURY, ON THE OTHER HAND, SENT HIS LETTER NOVEMBER 1ST AND I LOST TRACK OF IT BECAUSE IT WAS SO FAR IN ADVANCE OF THIS HEARING.

AND SO THAT'S THE BAD ON MY PART.

SO I HAD INTENDED TO READ HIS LETTER.

OK, THANK YOU.

WELL, MICHELLE, IT'S YOUR PREFERENCE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ IT? YES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU GUYS HAVE NOT SEEN IT.

I SENT IT TO THE THE P AND Z EMAIL THAT WAS LISTED ON THE MOUNTAIN LINE ANNOUNCEMENT, SO I ASSUMED YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE RECEIVED THAT YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

I JUST A QUICK COMMENT, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT FOR BOTH OF THESE FIRST TWO SPEAKER, THESE TWO COMMENTS SINCE THEY DID WRITE LENGTHY LETTERS, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT STICKING DIRECTLY TO THIS THREE MINUTE LIMIT ON THAT SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE THAT AHEAD OF TIME.

THANKS MICHELLE, GO AHEAD.

OK.

FRIENDS OF FLAGSTAFF FUTURE, WHICH I REFER TO AS F-CUBE, SUPPORTS THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER AND THE INCLUSION OF CIVIC SPACE WITHIN ITS DESIGN PLANS, AS PROPOSED BY MOUNTAIN LION.

WE ENCOURAGE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST.

THE DOWNTOWN AREA NEEDS BUS TRANSIT CENTER AND IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT THE LOCATION ON PHOENIX IS THE BEST AND ONLY LOCATION THAT FITS THE REQUIREMENTS.

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION HAS BEEN SHOWN TO INCREASE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PROMOTE AND PROMOTE SUSTAINABLE LIVING.

THESE POSITIVE IMPACTS ARE PRIMARILY FELT BY LOWER INCOME COMMUNITIES, COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND PEOPLE WHO RELY ON TRANSIT AS THEIR MAIN MODE OF TRAVEL.

ACCESS TO QUALITY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION CAN MAKE OR BREAK A PERSON'S CHANCE AT ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL MOBILITY.

F-CUBE IS PLEASED THAT MOUNTAIN LINE HAS INCLUDED CIVIC SPACES, AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE DCC DESIGN.

THE INCLUSION OF CIVIC SPACE ORIGINATES WITH THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS FORMALLY ACCEPTED.

THE SOUTHSIDE COMMUNITY PLAN COMBINES THE THOUGHTS AND NEEDS OF THE SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE CITY HAS AN OBLIGATION TO LISTEN TO WHAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS SAID REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF CIVIC SPACE, BOTH AT THE DCC AND ELSEWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

CIVIC SPACE IS FOUNDATIONAL TO THE HEALTH AND ECONOMY OF HEALTHY COMMUNITIES.

THE ONGOING PANDEMIC HAS EXEMPLIFIED THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE SPACES AND BROUGHT ATTENTION TO THE UNEQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF PARKS AND PUBLIC SPACES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

MANY GENERATIONS OF DISINVESTMENT IN THE SOUTH SIDE AND OTHER BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES HAVE LEFT THESE AREAS WITHOUT ACCESS TO BASIC PUBLIC SPACE AMENITIES.

PUBLIC SPACES ARE FUNDAMENTAL BUILDING BLOCKS OF OUR SOCIAL RESILIENCE AND DEMOCRACY, AND THEY HAVE LONG BEEN THE LAST PRIORITY IN THE U.S.

COMPARED TO OTHER TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE DCC IS UNIQUE IN ITS DESIGN IS AS IT WILL NOT ONLY SERVE THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS OF TRANSPORTATION OF MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT IT ALSO IS DESIGNED TO BE A GREAT PUBLIC SPACE.

GREAT PUBLIC SPACES ARE THOSE PLACES WHERE CELEBRATIONS ARE HELD, SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC EXCHANGES OCCUR, FRIENDS RUN INTO EACH OTHER AND CULTURES MIX.

GREAT TRANSIT HUBS PROVIDE FUNCTIONAL AND BEAUTIFUL WAITING SPACES, ARE EASILY ACCESSIBLE AND SUPPORT THOSE WHO WALK AND CYCLE, SERVE MULTIPLE USES AND FOSTER DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ARE NEIGHBORHOOD ANCHORS THAT INSTILL PRIDE IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE HISTORY OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE DESIGN OF THE DCC TO DATE EXEMPLIFIES THE STRUGGLE BETWEEN THE WAYS FLAGSTAFF HAS ADDRESSED TRANSPORTATION FOR THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS AND THE GOALS THE CITY HAS SET FOR THIS DECADE.

FLAGSTAFF NEEDS TO DESIGN OUR CITY FOR PEOPLE, NOT JUST FOR CARS.

THE CITY HAS SET SIGNIFICANT GOALS IN THE FLAGSTAFF CLIMATE NEUTRALITY PLAN TO REDUCE BY HALF THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED BY 2030.

IN ADDITION, THE CITY'S DRAFT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT PLAN AGGRESSIVELY OUTLINED SPECIFIC INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE FLAGSTAFF NON VEHICULAR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK AND SAFETY TO ENCOURAGE WALKING AND BIKING.

IF WE AS A CITY WANT TO DESIGN CIVIC SPACE, IT SHOULD NOT BE CAR CENTRIC.

EXCESSIVE CAR PARKING IS THE ANTITHESIS OF GOOD PLACEMAKING.

THE CURRENT PLAN FOR THE DCC INCLUDES A FUTURE PARKING LOT ESTIMATED AT 106 PARKING

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SPACES THAT WILL BE BUILT BY THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND MANAGED BY PARK FLAG.

THIS IS A RELATIVELY SMALL REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES CURRENTLY PRESENT AT THIS OFTEN UNDERUSED PARKING LOT.

OPTIMALLY, A PORTION OF THESE PARKING SPACES, AS WELL AS THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT IMMEDIATELY EAST OF THE CIVIC SPACE, WOULD BE CONVERTED TO PUBLIC SPACE IN THE FUTURE.

AS THE CITY LOCATES PARKING OPPORTUNITIES NORTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND OR THE DEMAND FOR PARKING DECREASES, FQ BELIEVES THE PROPOSED DCC CIVIC SPACE SHOULD INCLUDE THE AREA CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY A PARKING LOT LOCATED JUST EAST OF THE CIVIC SPACE ON THE CORNER OF PHENIX AND BEAVER STREET.

THIS CORNER LOCATION WOULD IMPROVE THE FUNCTION AND VISIBILITY OF THE CIVIC SPACE IMMENSELY, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOUNTAIN LIONS DESIGN TEAM PROVIDE A PLAN FOR THE CONVERSION OF THIS CORNER LOT INTO CIVIC SPACE AS PART OF PHASE 2B OF THE DCC CONSTRUCTION.

THE CURRENT DESIGN PROPOSALS PROPOSAL REQUEST A COMPROMISE BETWEEN EXCLUSIVELY REPRESENTS A COMPROMISE BETWEEN PROVIDING A REASONABLY SIZED CIVIC SPACE WITHIN THE SOUTHSIDE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS A REASONABLE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.

THE DESIGN IS NOT PERFECT.

F- CUBE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN THE LARGER CIVIC SPACE AND LESS PARKING.

HOWEVER, THE CURRENT PLAN PROVIDES FOR A CIVIC SPACE OF APPROXIMATELY TWENTY SIX THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED FORTY THREE SQUARE FEET.

THIS IS LARGER THAN HERITAGE SQUARE, WHICH WE ALL KNOW FUNCTIONS AS AN ACTIVE AND IMPORTANT SOCIAL GATHERING PLACE FOR FLAGSTAFF.

F-CUBE ENCOURAGES THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FROM MOUNTAIN LINE FOR THE DCC.

THE CURRENT DCC DESIGN PLAN SETS IN MOTION A VAST IMPROVEMENT FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF BY CREATING A TRANSPORTATION HUB THAT IS FUNCTIONAL AND BEAUTIFUL AND PROVIDES A CIVIC SPACE ON THE SOUTH SIDE THAT IS FULL OF POTENTIAL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? UM EMILY, YOU WERE YOU'D HAD AN EARLIER COMMENT.

ARE YOU STILL INTERESTED IN MAKING ONE? UM, YES, I AM.

AND YOU HEAR ME.

YES.

CAN I BE HEARD? OK? MY COMPUTER FROZE UP THERE FOR A SECOND.

OK.

YES.

MY APOLOGIES ABOUT EARLIER.

I DID WANT TO SAY THAT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I HOPE THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS APPROVED FOR THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER.

I THINK THAT MOUNTAIN LINE HAS WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAKE THIS A SAFE, CONVENIENT, ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND ENGAGING SPACE.

I THINK MY MAJOR CONCERN WITH THIS THAT I'D LIKE IN THE PUBLIC RECORD IS I KNOW THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OR TUNNEL TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER ACROSS, YOU KNOW, MILTON/ROUTE 66.

I KNOW THIS IS THE PURVEY OF ADOT.

IT IS THEIR ROAD.

BUT I REALLY THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE IS CONVENIENT AND SAFE ACCESS TO THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER FOR THE TOWN SITE COMMUNITIES, COCONINO ESTATES, AND DEPENDING WHERE THEY PLACE IT, IT COULD EVEN BE MAKE IT EASIER FOR LA PLAZA VIEJA AS WELL.

SO, YEAH, I REALLY HOPE THAT A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OR TUNNEL IS APPROVED AND IS A PART OF THE PHASE TWO OF THIS PLAN AND HAPPENS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THANKS SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? MARIE I DID RECEIVE ONE MORE EMAIL.

IT JUST CAME IN.

OK, THANKS, IF YOU COULD READ THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS ONE IS FROM.

THE THIS IS FROM TERRI MADEKSZA.

SO THE FLAGSTAFF DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE SUPPORTS TRANSIT, TRANSIT IS A CRITICAL SERVICE FOR DOWNTOWN AND THE BROADER COMMUNITY.

THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER BELONGS DOWNTOWN AND THE PROPOSED SITE IS A GOOD LOCATION.

IT FITS WITH THE DOWNTOWN VISION CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND SOUTHSIDE PLAN.

HOWEVER, THE ISSUE THAT THE FDBA WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS HERE ISN'T ABOUT TRANSIT, IT IS ABOUT OTHER NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE CRITICAL TO THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF DOWNTOWN PUBLIC PARKING.

PARKING IN DOWNTOWN HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR DECADES.

WE DO NOT EVEN HAVE.

WE DO NOT HAVE EVEN A BASELINE OF ADEQUATE SUPPLY, SO MAXIMIZING PARKING AT THE SITE IS CRUCIAL.

IT IS ALSO AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR PARKING.

SURROUNDED BY AN ACTIVE TRAIN BUS CONNECTION CENTER AND THE REO DE FLAG, THE

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DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER IS PART OF THE SOLUTION.

AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS CRITICAL THAT PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE BE IN PLACE TO SERVE EMPLOYEES, VISITORS, CUSTOMERS, AMTRAK RIDERS, ETC.

AND TO SUPPORT THE ECONOMIC HEALTH OF OUR DOWNTOWN.

PARKING IS DIRECTLY LINKED TO ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND SPENDING.

THE 2018 VISITOR INTERCEPT SURVEY REPORTS THAT DOWNTOWN IS THE NUMBER ONE ACTIVITY AND 90 PERCENT OF VISITORS ARRIVE BY CAR.

CUSTOMERS SPEND WHEN THEY CAN PARK AND SUPPORT BUSINESSES PAST VISITORS.

STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT A TYPICAL VISITOR SPENDS ON AVERAGE OF SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX DOLLARS A DAY ON SHOPPING, DINING, ET CETERA.

ADEQUATE PARKING SUPPLY IS A NECESSARY AND IMMEDIATE NEED TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES, AND AN ECONOMICALLY VIABLE DOWNTOWN PARKING AT THE PHOENIX AVENUE LOT IS THE ONLY OPTION FOR OFF SITE PARKING IN THE SOUTH SIDE.

THIS LOT ALSO CURRENTLY HANDLES A VARIETY OF USES SERVING MULTIPLE AUDIENCES, INCLUDING AMTRAK'S 40000 EMBARKMENTS PER YEAR.

EIGHT HUNDRED TOUR BUSSES PER YEAR.

EXTENDED STAY FOR RV AND TRAILER PARKING.

50 EMPLOYEE PARKING PERMITS, OVERNIGHT PARKING DURING THE WINTER.

FLAGSTAFF VISITOR CENTER PARKING THAT SERVES OVER 100000 PER YEAR, AS WELL AS A REGULAR VISITOR AND CUSTOMER PARKING THAT SERVES MILLIONS PER YEAR.

PLEASE NOTE, THE HIGH COST OF EMPLOYEE PARKING PERMITS HAS BEEN GREATLY REDUCED.

$40 PER MONTH TO $10 PER MONTH TO INCENTIVIZE THE PARKING AT PHOENIX AVENUE AND THE NUMBER OF PERMITS SOLD THIS YEAR HAS ALREADY DOUBLED THAT OF THE PAST.

ALTERNATIVE PARKING SOLUTIONS IN THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD DO NOT EXIST, WHICH IN TURN WILL CREATE PRESSURE ON ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS.

PARK FLAG CURRENTLY OFFERS FREE BUS PASSES TO DOWNTOWN EMPLOYEES.

INTERESTED EMPLOYEES ARE ALREADY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT BENEFIT AND LIKELY WON'T INCREASE MUCH AND PARK FLAGS LOCKBOX FUNDS EXIST FOR FUTURE PARKING SOLUTIONS.

HOWEVER, FUNDS NEED TO GROW SIGNIFICANTLY.

POTENTIAL LOCATIONS HAVE NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED, AND THERE IS NO TIMELINE.

I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE PLAN BEING PRESENTED TODAY THAT INCLUDES 100 PARKING SPACES BE SUPPORTED BY THIS COMMISSION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU, TIFFANY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER? I DO SEE MAURY'S HAND, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S FROM BEFORE, BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? I'VE LIKED YOU.

I WAS NOT AWARE WHEN I SPOKE THAT MY LETTER HAD NOT BEEN DISTRIBUTED.

AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PARTS OF IT I'D LIKE TO ASK TO BE DISTRIBUTED.

I THINK THAT THEY OFFER SOME SUGGESTIONS, IF NOT THROUGH THIS MEETING, IN FUTURE MEETINGS.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ THE EMAIL MAURY? THAT WOULD BE, YOU CAN READ THE EMAIL.

THE END OF THE EARLIER ONE I SENT IS REALLY THAT.

THAT'S THE ONE.

YES, THE IDEAS.

SO THAT'S OK.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, MAURY, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THIS, RIGHT? THANK YOU.

FOR MAURY HERMAN, OUR PERSONAL INVOLVEMENT IN THE SOUTH SIDE DATES FROM OUR ACQUISITION ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO, BEAVER STREET BREWERY PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING BUILDINGS THAT OCCUPY MOST OF A BLOCK SOUTH OF THE PROJECT.

THIS PROPERTY INCLUDES THREE RESTAURANTS, SIX OTHER BUSINESSES AND SEVEN RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

DURING RECENT YEARS, WE ALSO PARTICIPATED ACTIVELY IN THE OPPOSITION OF THE HUB PROJECT AND ATTENDED SOME OF THE MEETINGS LEADING UP TO THE SOUTH SIDE PLAN.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE LOST TRACK OF THE PLAN AND MISS THE INCLUSION OF THE CIVIC SPACE IN THE PROJECT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HEATHER DONLON AND KATE MORLEY FROM MOUNTAIN LINE HAVE BEEN OPEN IN THEIR PROJECT PLANS AND THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT LED THEM TO THE CURRENT DESIGN.

WHILE WE ARE SUGGESTING CONSIDERATION OF SOME CHANGES, WE APPRECIATE THE WAY THEY HAVE PROMOTED THEIR PROJECT AND UNDERSTAND THEIR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO DEVELOP A TRANSIT HUB.

WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE ROLE OF BALANCING PUBLIC SPACE AND PARKING.

FIRST, IT'S CLEAR THAT THE SOUTH SIDE HAS BEEN NEGLECTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF CIVIC FACILITIES AND SPACE.

WE STRONGLY SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF A SPACE IN THE SOUTH SIDE FOR ACTIVITIES, PUBLIC GATHERINGS AND EVENTS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE CURRENT MOUNTAIN LINE PROPOSAL PLACES THE PUBLIC SPACE JUST A FEW YARDS FROM THE MAJOR BNSF TRANSCONTINENTAL RAIL LINE AND NOT FAR FROM THE STATE HIGHWAY.

MANY OF THE EVENTS THAT COULD TAKE PLACE IN A CIVIC SPACE, SUCH AS A MUSIC DANCE PERFORMANCE, MEDITATION, FAMILY EVENTS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES, WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE HIGH LEVEL OF NOISE AND AIR POLLUTION GENERATED BY BOTH THE RAILROAD AND THE HIGHWAY.

NAU HAS RECENTLY INDICATED A RENEWED INTEREST IN IMPROVING ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AT THE SAME TIME, THE UNIVERSITY HAS ACQUIRED PROPERTY ON MILTON AND IN THE AREAS CLOSER TO BUTLER BEFORE SETTLING ON THIS POOR LOCATION FOR CIVIC SPACE, I SUGGEST IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO START A DIALOG WITH THE UNIVERSITY ABOUT POTENTIAL COLLABORATION IN A TOWN GOWN CIVIC SPACE.

WHILE IDENTIFYING AN ALTERNATIVE SITE MIGHT BE CHALLENGING, THE USAGE OF

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THE CURRENT SITE WILL BE TOO.

IT IS HARD TO ADVOCATE FOR PARKING, TAKING PRECEDENCE OVER MUCH NEEDED CIVIC SPACE.

HOWEVER, GIVEN THE LIMITATIONS OF THE SPACE DESCRIBED ABOVE, THE FOLLOWING SHOULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED ONE.

THE VIBRANT RESTAURANT AREAS ON BEAVER STREET, PHOENIX AVENUE AND SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO AND SURROUNDING THE MOUNTAIN LINE PROJECT NEED PARKING FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES AND CUSTOMERS.

MOST VISITORS STILL VISIT FLAGSTAFF VIA CAR.

DESPITE OUR RELATIVE SUCCESS IN DEVELOPING BIKES AS COMMUTER VEHICLES, MOST EMPLOYEES STILL NEED STILL COMMUTE BY CAR.

IF WE WANT THIS AREA TO GENERATE JOBS THAT PAY WELL AND REMAIN VIBRANT, PARKING IS A NEEDED ASSET TO THE CITY HAS VERY LIMITED ABILITY TO OBTAIN GRANTS TO BUILD PARKING STRUCTURES.

HOWEVER, AN [INAUDIBLE] OR MOUNTAIN LINE HAS PROVEN VERY ADEPT AT OBTAINING GRANTS AND CAN APPLY FOR GRANTS TO BUILD PARKING STRUCTURES, PROVIDED THE LOTS ARE OPERATED BY THEM IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEIR TRANSIT CENTER.

THREE.

A LARGER PARKING STRUCTURE ON THIS SITE MIGHT BE MORE EFFICIENT TO BUILD THAN TWO SMALLER STRUCTURES, ASSUMING THE MONEY AND SITE COULD BE FOUND FOR THE SECOND STRUCTURE.

FINALLY, THE CURRENT DESIGN WITH AN INEFFICIENT, SINGLE SIDED PARKING LOT ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BEAVER AND PHOENIX MISSES TWO OPPORTUNITIES.

THE BEST USE OF THAT CORNER IS FOR A GATEWAY ART PROJECT, MAKING THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE SOUTH SIDE.

THIS PROJECT DOESN'T NEED TO BE TERRIBLY WIDE.

THE USE OF THE TINY SETBACK AND FACADE OF THE NEW CITY COURTHOUSE ON BEAVER IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE.

IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC ART PROJECT AT THE PROPOSAL IS TO LEAVE A PARKING ROW AND ACCESS AISLE ON THE CORNER.

IT WOULD BE A BETTER USE OF LAND IF THE AISLE SUPPORT IF THE AISLE SUPPORT PARKING ON BOTH SIDES.

OUR PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF NAIPTA HAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PARKING.

WE ARE CURRENTLY INVESTING A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR GROSS RENTALS IN A DIFFICULT ATTEMPT TO PROTECT THE USAGE OF THAT LOT FOR OUR TENANTS AND THEIR CUSTOMERS.

WE ALSO GIVE A GREEN DISCOUNT TO RESIDENTIAL TENANTS WHO DON'T OWN CARS.

AS PARKING BECOMES MORE CONSTRAINED, THE DIFFICULTY OF PROVIDING FOR THE BUSINESSES WE LEASE TO WILL INCREASE, AND OTHER BUSINESSES THAT HAVE NO OFF STREET PARKING WILL BE IN TRUE JEOPARDY.

MANY OF THE BUSINESSES IN SOUTH SIDE HAVE SURVIVED THE PANDEMIC DUE TO THEIR RESOURCEFULNESS AND THE MAJOR GOVERNMENT AID THAT WAS AVAILABLE.

NOTWITHSTANDING APPEARANCES THESE BUSINESSES ARE FRAGILE AND IT IS HIGHLY LIKELY THAT REMOVAL OF A MAJOR PARKING RESOURCE WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON BOTH THE BUSINESSES AND THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH SIDE.

WE'VE PROVIDED SOME REFERENCES BELOW REGARDING NOISE AND AIR QUALITY ISSUES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO HIGHWAYS AND RAIL LINES.

IF THE RESEARCH ON SOUND AND AIR QUALITY AT THE MOUNTAIN LINE SITE HASN'T BEEN DONE, WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT AN ANALYSIS COULD BE HELPFUL.

WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET TO DISCUSS HOW WE AS SOUTHSIDE PROPERTY OWNERS CAN SUPPORT BALANCING THE NEEDS FOR A VIBRANT PUBLIC SPACE, A SAFE AND EFFECTIVE TRANSIT CENTER, AND AN ADEQUATE PUBLIC PARKING IN OUR SOUTHSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.

THANKS, TIFFANY.

IF THERE ARE NO I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS AND RETURN THIS TO THE COMMISSION.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? I MYSELF DO HAVE A COMMENT ON THE SITE PLAN.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT MY ENTHUSIASM FOR THIS PROJECT.

I, I'M I OR MY WILLINGNESS TO VOTE FOR THE CUP FOR THIS PROJECT.

I THINK IT'S A REALLY TERRIFIC PROJECT.

IT'S THE IT'S THE LARGEST PUBLIC PROJECTS WE'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY IT'S BEEN HANDLED BY NATE IN AND I THINK THAT THE THE ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDING TO THE CORNER OF MILTON AND PHOENIX IS REALLY EXCELLENT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CHANGED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, I KNOW, AND THE BUILDING ITSELF IS LOOKING REALLY GREAT.

I'M VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE PUBLIC ART AND ABOUT THE CIVIC SPACE, I DO HAVE ONE CONCERN WHICH DOES HAVE TO DO WITH THE PRIMARILY WHEN I LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN ON THIS, I COUNT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF THE DRAWING IS RELATIVELY ACCURATE, I COUNT SOMETHING LIKE ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN SPACES JUST ON THAT KIND OF EAST TO WEST PARKING STRIP.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PULL UP THAT IMAGE OF THE SITE PLAN, BUT JUST ON THAT EAST TO WEST SECTION, NOT INCLUDING.

THERE ARE 14 SPACES THAT ARE THE SAME EXISTING SPACES THAT ARE EXISTING THERE NOW

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ALONG BEAVER.

AND SO THERE ARE 14 OF THOSE SPACES.

I REALLY WISH THAT WE COULD BE STANDING THERE RIGHT NOW.

I WALKED BY THIS LOCATION FREQUENTLY.

I LIVE RIGHT DOWN HERE AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OF INTEREST IN LOOKING AT THAT ASPHALT THERE.

AND IF THAT CIVIC SPACE, AS HAS BEEN SUGGESTED, COULD DRAW ALL THE WAY OVER TO BEAVER STREET, THAT WOULD THERE WOULD BE ABOUT 14 SPACES LOST, WHICH WOULD STILL LEAVE SOMEWHERE AROUND 118 SPACES.

THAT'S NOT INCLUDING HANDICAPPED SPACES THAT BETWEEN THE THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE RAILROAD.

I THINK IF YOU CAN ENVISION JUST THE NOTION THAT IF THE CIVIC SPACE COULD REACH INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ACTUALLY TOUCH THE STREET, TOUCH THE SIDEWALK, THERE'S A BUS STOP THERE.

THEN IT IS YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT.

WHEREAS RIGHT NOW, WITH THIS PARKING TO THE EAST OF IT, IT'S BLOCKED.

ACTUALLY, AS YOU GET DOWN TOWARDS MACY'S, YOU DON'T SEE THE PARK, YOU SEE PARKING RIGHT THERE.

AND AS ALSO AS ONE OF THE COMMENTERS MENTIONED, THIS IS A PLACE FOR REALLY FOR PUBLIC ART TO POSSIBLY BE.

AND SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE HERE IS THAT WHEN THIS COMES AGAIN TO CITY COUNCIL, THE NEXT TIME THIS IS PRESENTED THAT THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS PLAN, BUT ALSO ONE THAT EXTENDS THE CIVIC SPACE ALL THE WAY OUT TO BEAVER AND ENGAGES THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND RATHER THAN BEING SORT OF HIDDEN BY THAT, SO BY THAT PARKING AREA THAT WOULD CAUSE THE LOSS OF ABOUT 14 SPACES.

UM THE SIZE OF THAT IS ABOUT IT'S PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND I DON'T REALLY KNOW ABOUT SOMEWHERE AROUND THE SIZE OF A RESIDENTIAL LOT IN THE SOUTH SIDE.

AND IT JUST SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT WOULD BE A FAR BETTER DESIGN IN TERMS OF REALLY BEING AN APPROACHABLE CIVIC SPACE.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THE LOSS OF PARKING AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE CITY AND TO HAVE REALLY WORKED HARD TO CONSIDER THE LOSS OF PARKING AND THE NEED FOR PARKING IN FLAGSTAFF.

AND YES, INDEED PEOPLE DO, ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IS, PARKING IS AN IMPORTANT FEATURE, BUT I DON'T THINK PEOPLE COME TO FLAGSTAFF FOR PARKING.

THEY COME FOR THE BEAUTY OF THE PLACE AND FOR THE LIVELINESS OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK FOR JUST FOURTEEN SPACES TO CONNECT THAT CIVIC SPACE INTO THE COMMUNITY, TO REALLY DRIVE IT INTO INTO THE STREET, WHICH IS ONE OF TWO ACCESS AREAS BETWEEN THE NORTH SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE, WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT THE NEXT TIME CITY COUNCIL SEES THIS PLAN, THEY ALSO SEE AN ALTERNATIVE THAT SHOWS THAT SO THAT THEY CAN BE MAKING A DECISION.

A REALISTIC DECISION ON THAT.

THAT'S MY COMMENT ON THE SITE PLAN.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO EITHER MAKE A COMMENT OR MAKE A MOTION? THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PZ-21-00094-220 ONE ZERO ZERO ZERO NINE FOUR TO THE MOUNTAIN LINE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER OR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY AS A PASSENGER TRANSPORTATION FACILITY, WHICH INCLUDES A MULTIPHASE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, INCLUDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW EIGHTEEN THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE SQUARE FOOT STRUCTURE, BUS PLAZA, CIVIC SPACE AND PARKING IN THE COMMERCIAL SERVICE ZONE, LOCATED AT 216 WEST PHOENIX AVENUE AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FINDINGS PRESENTED IN THIS REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

WITH THOSE CONDITIONS.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER PAUL, I'LL SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MARIE.

YES.

WAS THAT DONE? OR YOU CAN ASK THEM.

DID YOU SAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FINDINGS? {INAUDIBLE] YES.

YES.

PERFECT.

WITH THE CONDITIONS, RECOMMENDED BY [INAUDIBLE] OK, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, I'M SORRY, CAN I JUST MAKE A COMMENT? YES.

I THINK TO ME WHEN WE'RE BUILDING THIS TRANSPORTATION CENTER.

TO ME, THE HOPE IS THAT AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT CIVIC SPACE AND PARKING, BUT THE HOPE TO ME IS THAT MORE VISITORS AND MORE RESIDENTS WILL TAKE THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND COME DOWNTOWN AND STILL SPEND THEIR MONEY AND STILL SHOP.

AND THAT EVEN EMPLOYEES COULD POSSIBLY TAKE THE MOUNTAIN LINE AND TO AND FROM WORK SO THAT UM, I THINK IT WILL HELP BE MORE VIBRANT DOWNTOWN WHERE PEOPLE WILL GO TO SHOP BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK IT WILL IMPROVE THE PARKING SITUATION BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL TAKE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

MY ONLY COMMENT? THANK YOU.

AND THIS IS COMMISSIONER NOLAN, IF I CAN ALSO JUST ADD ONE OTHER COMMENT TO THAT.

I'VE ALSO BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS WHEN I THINK ITS PHASE THREE COMES IN FOR THE PARKING STRUCTURE.

NOW, TO CAROL'S POINT, PACKING MORE CARS, WE JUST SEE IN

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A LOT OF WAYS IS REALLY DELETERIOUS TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND CARBON EMISSIONS AND RESOURCE SCARCITY AND EVERYTHING THAT'S INVOLVED WITH THAT.

SO I LIKE HOW WE ARE FOCUSING MORE ON THE MASS TRANSIT.

AND I HAVE A QUESTION MAYBE FOR STAFF.

I DON'T KNOW IF KATE STILL ON THAT CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT IS THERE ANY SORT OF LIKE A LARGER MASTER PLAN THAT WOULD ADDRESS WHERE MAYBE WE HAVE MORE OF A PARKING HUB THAT'S NOT AS CLOSE TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT WITH OUR MASS TRANSIT IMPROVING? IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO CATCH MASS TRANSIT INTO DOWNTOWN FROM A PARKING STRUCTURE THAT'S OFF OF DOWNTOWN, SO IT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT.

WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ANY PLANS FOR PARKING GARAGE SIZE PARK AND RIDES ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN.

BUT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO PARK AND RIDE POTENTIALLY.

AND THEN ONE THING THAT ACTUALLY IS COMING UP AS A NEW TREND IS THE IDEA THAT [INAUDIBLE] RIDE OR THE DROP OFF AREA.

SO IF WE THINK ABOUT AREAS OF THE COUNTY, DONEY PARK, KACHINA VILLAGE, MAYBE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING IN TOGETHER AND THEN THERE'S A SAFE PULL OFF NEXT TO A BUS STOP WHERE THEY CAN DROP PEOPLE OUT OFF AND CONTINUE ON THEIR WAY.

WE TEND TO FIND THAT THE RIDE SHARING PART WAY IS MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TOWN THAN ENOUGH PEOPLE TO PARK SOMEWHERE AND PARK AND RIDE WITH A PARKING GARAGE.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS ANSWER.

IT DOES, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KATE.

THIS IS I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.

I ATTENDED THAT STAKEHOLDERS MEETING, WHICH THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ON ON THE PARKING AND THE CIVIC SPACE AND THE SITE PLAN GENERALLY, WHICH I'D LIKE TO REFER TO HERE.

THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT BEING ABLE ABOUT THE ABILITY TO PRESENT AN ALTERNATIVE PLANS TO COUNCIL THAT WOULD SHOW AN EXPANDED CIVIC SPACE AND SOMEWHAT LESS PARKING.

AND I THINK THAT THE INDICATION WAS THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE TO DO BEFORE THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, BUT THAT IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY AFTER THAT.

CAN WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IS THAT TRUE? DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? YEAH, SO AS TIFFANY MENTIONED, A LOT OF WHAT'S GOING ON OUTSIDE THE TRANSIT USE IS MOUNTAIN LINE'S FOCUS AND THEN THE PARKING AREA AND CIVIC PIECE IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO COLLABORATE ON WHAT THEY WANT, AS THE PROPERTY OWNER, I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD WAY TO FRAME IT.

I THINK MOUNTAIN LINE IS VERY OPEN TO WHAT THOSE OTHER PIECES LOOK LIKE BASED

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ON WHAT THE CITY AND COMMUNITY WANT TO SEE.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING A FINAL DESIGN TEAM AND COULD WORK WITH THEM TO SHOW POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, AS THE CITY, AS THE LANDOWNER IS WILLING TO LOOK AT OTHER THINGS.

SO I THINK, I THINK THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THERE IT WOULD BE WITH A FUTURE DESIGN TEAM, THOUGH.

AND WILL THAT WILL WITH THAT FUTURE DESIGN WORK, WILL THAT INCLUDE PUBLIC PROCESS, PUBLIC INPUT, AS YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR, SO WELL TO DATE? DEFINITELY, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE CIVIC SPACE, WE'RE REALLY COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE SOUTHSIDE COMMUNITY ON THE DETAILS OF THAT DESIGN.

AND SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO ENGAGE THE STAKEHOLDERS GROUP THAT WE'VE HAD.

AND THEN IF THERE'S DESIRE FOR BROADER OUTREACH, DO THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR FLAGSTAFF.

IT'S LITERALLY IN THE HEART OF THE CITY AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DO IT RIGHT AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE CARE YOU'VE TAKEN WITH IT SO FAR.

AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S STILL SOME ISSUES TO BE WORKED OUT AND, YOU KNOW, BE JUST REALLY GOOD TO DO TO MAKE THE BEST POSSIBLE SPACE.

SO ARE THERE ANY MORE COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PRESENTED, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? I'M SORRY.

ANY OPPOSED.

SO THIS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATIONS.

AND FOR THE GOOD DISCUSSION, AND LET'S SEE, I'LL GO BACK TO THE AGENDA HERE.

CONTINUING THE PUBLIC MEETING.

UM.

WE HAVE ITEM B IS FLAGSTAFF REHAB CAMPUS ANNEXATION.

[B. Flagstaff Rehab Campus Annexation PZ-20-00164-03: A request from Flagland LLC to annex approximately 10.06 acres of real property located generally at 7000 North Highway 89. The property is identified as Coconino County Assessor's Parcel Number 301-50-005G. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Staff recommends the Planning and Zoning Commission, in accordance with the findings presented in this report, forward the Annexation application to the City Council with a recommendation for approval with conditions.]

PZ 20-0016403.

DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS? GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER JONES, THIS IS GENEVIEVE PEARTHREE.

I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION, LET ME JUST GO AHEAD AND PULL THAT UP RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT, SO I ASSUME YOU CAN SEE MY SCREEN HOLLER IF YOU CAN'T.

YEAH, SO GENEVIEVE PEARTHREE, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE CURRENT PLANNING SECTION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

THIS I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE FLAGSTAFF REHAB CAMPUS ANNEXATION REQUEST.

THIS REQUEST IS FROM FLAGLAND LLC.

THEY'RE REQUESTING TO ANNEX APPROXIMATELY TEN POINT ZERO SIX ACRES.

THIS PARCEL IS LOCATED AT 7000 NORTH HIGHWAY 89.

IF ANNEXED, THE PROPERTY WILL BE DESIGNATED WITH A HIGHLY COMMERCIAL ZONING AS WELL AS A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY.

FLAGLAND LLC IS THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER, AND THEY ALSO HAVE A CONCURRENT CONCEPT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST, AND THAT'S TO REZONE 1.1 ACRES OF THAT LARGER TEN POINT ZERO SIX ACRE PARCEL THAT WOULD BE FROM HC ZONING WITH THE RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL WITH THE RPO, AND I'LL DISCUSS THAT MORE IN MY PRESENTATION, BUT JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ON THE LAY OF THE LAND.

SO THIS MAP SHOWS WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, AGAIN, THAT'S ON NORTH HIGHWAY 89.

THE AREA IN RED IS THE PROPERTY THAT IS SUBJECT THE SUBJECT OF THE ANNEXATION REQUEST AND THEN THAT LIGHT BLUE AREA IS THAT REZONING REQUEST THAT I WILL BE DISCUSSING IN MY NEXT PRESENTATION.

SO HERE IS THE ZONING AND VICINITY MAP.

WE CAN SEE THAT THE AREA TO THE SOUTH IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S THAT YELLOW ARE ONE SECTION.

THAT'S THE TRAILS AND SUBDIVISION.

THERE'S ALSO SOME COMMERCIAL LAND THAT'S ZONING IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IN COCONINO COUNTY.

THAT'S EVERYTHING TO THE EAST, NORTH AND WEST OF THE SITE.

SO TO THE NORTH ARE SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS, INCLUDING MARY'S CAFE AND CONOCO GAS STATION.

THAT'S THE COCONINO COUNTY CH 10000 ZONE.

TO THE EAST IS NATIONAL FOREST.

COCONINO COUNTY ARE TWO AND A HALF ZONE AND THEN ACROSS 89 ARE A BUNCH OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND THE COCONINO COUNTY CH TEN THOUSAND ZONE.

THE PARCEL IS CURRENTLY VACANT, IT PREVIOUSLY CONTAINED BLUE RIBBON HOMES, WHICH IS A MANUFACTURED HOME DEALERSHIP, AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS COCONINO COUNTY CH 10000 OR COMMERCIAL HEAVY TEN THOUSAND.

THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OVERVIEW, SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO COMBINE IF THE PROPERTY IS ANNEXED, THAT PROPERTY IN RED.

COMBINE THAT WITH THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN BLUE JUST TO THE SOUTH FOR A TWELVE POINT TWO ONE ACRE DEVELOPMENT.

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IT'S THEY'RE PROPOSING TO SUBDIVIDE IT INTO FOUR PARCELS.

TWO OF THE PARCELS WILL CONSIST OF A 174 BED MENTAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE CAMPUS, AND THAT WOULD CONSIST OF A DETOX AND RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT CENTER ON PARCEL ONE AND THEN PARCEL TWO WOULD BE A SOBER LIVING FACILITY.

THEN, PARCELS THREE AND FOUR ARE PROPOSED TO BE FUTURE COMMERCIAL PATHS THAT ARE NOT INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED AT THIS TIME, BUT SET ASIDE FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO HERE'S THIS IS WITH THE CONCEPT PLOT THAT STAFF REVIEWED EARLIER IN MAY OF THIS YEAR AND GAVE A COMPLETE WITH CONDITIONS.

SO JUST THE CONCEPTUALLY THIS LOOKS LIKE IT WORKS NOT A FORMAL APPROVAL YET, BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, THAT'S HOW THEY'RE PROPOSING TO SUBDIVIDE THE DEVELOPMENT SITE.

SO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT PARCEL ONE WOULD BE EIGHT POINT ZERO EIGHT ACRES AND IT WOULD CONTAIN THE REHABILITATION SUBSTANCE TREATMENT CAMPUS.

IT'S PROPOSED TO INCLUDE EIGHT BUILDINGS TOTALING FIFTY ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED EIGHTY SEVEN SQUARE FEET.

THE BUILDINGS ARE PROPOSED TO BE ONE AND TWO STORIES AND CONTAIN 110 BEDS TOTAL.

IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE AN EQUINE THERAPY FACILITY, WHICH WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY USE TO THAT PRIMARY REHABILITATION TREATMENT CAMPUS, AND I WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT MORE IN THE REZONING CASE.

I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS INFORMATION ABOUT THE BUILDINGS IS FOR REFERENCE ONLY THE DEVELOPMENT, LAYOUT AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS WILL BE FORMALLY APPROVED WITH SITE PLAN, AND THAT'S A FUTURE SUBMITTAL THAT WOULD OCCUR AFTER ANNEXATION AND REZONING.

BUT THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED SO FAR.

AS PART OF THEIR CONCEPT PLAN, SO PARCEL TWO WOULD BE TWO POINT SIX NINE ACRES.

IT WOULD INCLUDE THE SOBER LIVING FACILITY, WHICH WOULD CONTAIN THREE BUILDINGS TOTALING ABOUT 14000 SQUARE FEET, ONE TO TWO STORIES EACH AND CONTAIN 64 BEDS.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, PARCELS THREE AND FOUR AGAIN WOULD BE SET ASIDE FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THEY'RE CURRENTLY SHOWN AS RESTAURANTS OR CAFé USES, BUT COULD BE ANYTHING THAT PERMITTED IN THE HC OR HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE AS LONG AS IT MET ALL RELEVANT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

SO HERE IS THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT STAFF GAVE A COMPLETE WITH CONDITIONS TO IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, SO CONCEPT PLAN IS NOT A FORMAL APPROVAL.

AGAIN, IT'S BASICALLY DOES THIS WORK CONCEPTUALLY, FORMAL APPROVAL COMES WITH SITE PLAN AND THAT'LL BE A FUTURE SUBMITTAL, AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THE CONCEPT PLAN GIVES THE GENERAL LAYOUT OF WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS AREA IS PARCEL ONE.

IT CONTAINS MOST OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE TREATMENT CAMPUS.

THIS IS PARCEL TWO, CONTAINING THE SOBER LIVING BUILDINGS, AND THESE ARE PARCELS THREE AND FOUR.

AND AGAIN, A CONCEPT PLAN IS NOT A FORMAL APPROVAL AND THE REHAB FACILITY IS INTENDED.

HOWEVER, AT THIS POINT, IF THE DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T OCCUR AFTER ANNEXATION, THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP SOMETHING ELSE PERMITTED IN THE HC ZONE PENDING STAFF REVIEW.

SO AS PART OF THE APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT ALSO SUBMITTED A RESOURCE PROTECTION, EXCUSE ME, NATURAL RESOURCE PROTECTION PLAN.

THIS IS BECAUSE THE SITE WILL RECEIVE A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY IF THE ANNEXATION REQUEST IS SUCCESSFUL, SO IT MUST MEET MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR COMMERCIAL ZONES.

THAT'S PRESERVING 30 PERCENT OF THE TREE RESOURCES AND 60 PLUS PERCENT OF STEEP SLOPES FOR RESIDENTIAL ZONES.

THAT'S 50 PERCENT OF THE TREE RESOURCES AND 70 PLUS PERCENT OF THE STEEP SLOPES.

THE DEVELOPMENT SITE IS PROTECTING 63 PERCENT OF THE TREES AND 100 PERCENT OF THE STEEP SLOPES, ALL OF WHICH ARE LOCATED OVER HERE.

SO HERE ARE SOME PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND MATERIALS AGAIN, THESE ARE FOR REFERENCE ONLY WILL BE FORMALLY APPROVED WITH SITE PLAN, BUT IT GIVES A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO RIGHT NOW.

SO I BELIEVE THIS IS FOR THE ELEVATION FOR THE PROPOSED ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

WE CAN SEE HERE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO INCORPORATE TRADITIONAL FLAGSTAFF DESIGN TRADITIONS WITH STONE AND TIMBER AND EARTH TONES.

SO YOU KIND OF GET A SENSE OF WHAT THE BUILDINGS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

HERE'S ALSO SOME SAMPLE BUILDING ELEVATIONS, SO ONE OF THEM IS THE SOBER LIVING RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.

ANOTHER ONE IS THE KITCHEN AND DINING BUILDING.

SO LET'S GET A SENSE OF WHAT THESE MIGHT LOOK LIKE AT THIS PROJECT.

SO I MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES WHERE WE ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, SO THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY SUBMITTED A CONCEPT PLAN AND CONCEPT PLOT STAFF HAS REVIEWED THOSE GIVEN BOTH A COMPLETE WITH CONDITIONS WHICH ALLOW THEM TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STEPS, WHICH ARE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT AN ANNEXATION APPLICATION, AS WELL AS THAT CONCURRENT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT APPLICATION, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN MY NEXT PRESENTATION.

SO IF THESE ARE APPROVED BY COUNCIL, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE SITE PLAN APPROVAL.

THE NEXT STEP AFTER THAT NUMBER SIX WOULD BE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THAT'S JUST FOR THE EQUESTRIAN RECREATION FACILITY, AND I'LL DISCUSS THAT MORE SHORTLY.

THEN THEY WOULD SUBMIT CIVIL ENGINEERING PLANS, BUILDING PERMITS, FINAL PLOT, ANY

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OTHER PERMITS.

SO THIS IS JUST A SENSE OF WHERE THEY ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, AND WE'RE ON STEPS THREE AND FOUR TODAY.

SO ANNEXATIONS HAVE THREE FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL, SO THE FIRST ONE IS THAT IT COMPLIES WITH CITY CODE, THAT'S DIVISION 10.20-90.

IT ALSO HAS TO COMPLY WITH ARIZONA REVISED STATUTE 9-471 AND FINALLY MEET THE APPLICABLE GOALS AND POLICIES IN THE FLAGSTAFF REGIONAL PLAN 2020.

FIRST FINDING IS CONFORMANCE WITH CITY CODE, AND AS PART OF THAT, WE HAVE REQUIRED TO DO A PUBLIC SYSTEMS ANALYSIS SO THAT STAFF AND THE APPLICANT SO THIS CONSISTED OF FIVE THINGS SO TRAFFIC OR RIGHT AWAY IMPACT ANALYSIS TO IDENTIFY ANY TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS TO OFFSET THE IMPACTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE SECOND IS A WATER SEWER IMPACT ANALYSIS AND IDENTIFY ANY WATER OR SEWER IMPROVEMENTS.

THE THIRD IS A STORM WATER ANALYSIS TO IDENTIFY ANY STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS, AS WELL AS LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON SCHOOLS AND FIRE PROTECTION.

THE FIRST ONE, THE TRAFFIC RIGHT OF WAY IMPACT, SO A TRAFFIC STATEMENT OR IMPACT STATEMENT WAS PROVIDED BY CIVTECH.

AS PART OF THIS, THEY CALCULATED THE PEAK HOUR TRIPS, AND THEY WERE BASED ON A SIMILAR FACILITY THAT THE APPLICANT OPERATES IN TUCSON, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT THOSE TWO COMMERCIAL PADS AS A RESTAURANT OR A CAFE USE, WHICH IS ON THE HIGHER END OF TRAFFIC AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS WHY THEY CHOSE THAT USE IN THIS ANALYSIS.

SO IT IDENTIFIED 91 PEAK TRIPS IN THE MORNING AND 96 PEAK TRIPS IN THE AFTERNOON, WHICH DID NOT TRIGGER A FULL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

THAT'S A HUNDRED TRIPS IS WHEN THAT'S TRIGGERED.

SO MOST OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WAS CALCULATED OR ESTIMATED IN THIS TRAFFIC STATEMENT WAS ACTUALLY ESTIMATED TO COME FROM THE RESTAURANTS.

THIS IS BECAUSE PATIENTS AND THE REHAB CAMPUS WILL NOT BE USING PERSONAL VEHICLES OR TAKING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

THIS IS BECAUSE ALL OF THEIR TRIPS TO AND FROM THE CAMPUS WILL EITHER BE IN VANS OPERATED BY THE FACILITY OR IN THIRD PARTY PRIVATE VEHICLES.

ALSO NOTE THAT THE CLOSEST BUS STOP IS A QUARTER MILE AWAY.

THAT'S ON CHRISTMAS TREE LANE, AND THE TRAFFIC STATEMENT ANTICIPATES ONLY TWO EMPLOYEES REGULARLY USING PUBLIC TRANSIT.

THIS IS BASED ON SIMILAR TRANSPORTATION PATTERNS IN THE FACILITY IN TUCSON.

SO THE IMPACT STATEMENT IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS TO OFFSET THE IMPACTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO THEY INCLUDE TWO NEW FULL ACCESS DRIVEWAYS AND RIGHT TURN LANES WITH BIKE LANES ON HIGHWAY 89, AS WELL AS A FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPED PARKWAY AND SIX FOOT SIDEWALK.

HOWEVER, HIGHWAY 89 IS ADOT RIGHT OF WAY, AND ADOT WILL PROVIDE FINAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THAT WILL OCCUR IN THE FUTURE WHEN THOSE PLANS ARE CREATED.

SO FOR THE SECOND PUBLIC SYSTEMS ANALYSIS, IT'S THE WATER AND SEWER IMPACT ANALYSIS.

SO THIS ANALYSIS IDENTIFIED THE FACT THAT THE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY FOR THE REGIONAL PLAN, WHICH MEANS THAT IT CAN BE SERVED BY CITY WATER AND SEWER UTILITIES.

IT'S ALSO IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF PRESSURE ZONE B, AND ALL ONSITE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE DESIGNED AND BUILT.

THERE ISN'T ANYTHING IN THE GROUND TODAY, AND THERE AREN'T ANY OFFSITE WATER SEWER IMPROVEMENTS OTHER THAN A REQUIREMENT TO EXTEND A 12 INCH WATER LINE ALONG HIGHWAY 89, AND THAT'S ACROSS THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN FROM THERE, THERE WILL BE SEVERAL CONNECTIONS THAT GO ON TO THE PROPERTY TO SERVICE THE BUILDINGS, A FIRE LINE AND FIRE HYDRANTS.

THEY'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO EXTEND AN EIGHT INCH SEWER LINE ACROSS THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS MORE IN THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY, IT'LL BISECT IT FROM SOUTH TO NORTH AND GO TO THE NORTHEAST BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.

FOR STORM WATER ANALYSIS, THE PROJECT IS IN FEMA FLOOD ZONE X, WHICH MEANS THERE'S A MINIMAL FLOOD HAZARD.

THERE IS A DRAINAGE REPORT SUBMITTED WITH THIS APPLICATION THAT DIVIDED THE SITE INTO THREE DRAINAGE BASINS BY IDENTIFYING EXISTING STORM WATER RUNOFF PATTERNS.

THE OVERALL CONCEPT IS TO DRAIN WATER AWAY FROM THE BUILDINGS, AS WELL AS NOT HAVE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE DRAINAGE THAT ENTERS FROM OR FLOWS TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, IT'LL BE IMPLEMENTING LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A BASIN IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE TO CAPTURE AND METER OUT STORM WATER.

SO AS FOR SCHOOLS AND FIRE PROTECTION, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF THE SUBJECT SITE WILL NOT AFFECT THE LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR FIRE PROTECTION.

THE SITE WILL BE SERVED BY A FIRE STATION THREE AND THAT'S LOCATED AT 4500 EAST PURINA AVENUE.

AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS CONFIRMED THE SITE IS WITHIN THE DESIRED RESPONSE TIME FROM THIS STATION.

MOVING ON TO THE SECOND FINDING, WHICH IS CONFORMANCE WITH ARIZONA REVISED STATUTE 9-471 .

THIS STATUTE SETS THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR PROPERTIES TO ANNEX, SO A TERRITORY MUST BE CONSIDERED TO BE CONTIGUOUS TO EXISTING CITY BOUNDARY TO BE ELIGIBLE TO ANNEX THIS

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PART.

THIS STATE STATUTE ALSO IDENTIFIES REQUIRED PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES FOR CITIES AND TOWNS TO ANNEX PROPERTY, AS WELL AS SETTING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION THAT THEY WILL RECEIVE UPON ANNEXATION.

FIRST, THE PROPERTY IS CONTIGUOUS TO THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, PER THE STATE STATUTE, SO THERE'S THREE CRITERIA THAT APPLY TO THIS CASE.

FIRST, THE TERRITORY MUST BE OWNED BY ONE PERSON, AND IT IS IT'S OWNED BY FLAG LAND LLC.

THE SECOND IS THAT THE CITY AND OR TOWN AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY BOTH AGREE FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE ANNEXED.

IN THIS CASE, FLAG LAND LLC INITIATED THE ANNEXATION REQUEST AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO APPROVE IT VIA ORDINANCE.

THIRD, THE TERRITORY MUST ADJOIN THE EXTERIOR BOUNDARY OF THE ANNEXING CITY OR TOWN FOR AT LEAST 300 FEET.

IN THIS CASE, THE SHARED BOUNDARIES OVER A THOUSAND FEET.

SO THIS PROPERTY IS CONSIDERED TO BE CONTIGUOUS PER STATE LAW AND IS ELIGIBLE TO ANNEX.

THE SECOND PART IS THAT THE ZONING.

ONCE THE PROPERTY IS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, THE INITIAL ZONING CLASSIFICATION, IT CAN'T PERMIT A DENSITY OR USE THAT WAS GREATER THAN WHAT WAS ALLOWED PREVIOUSLY WHEN IT WAS IN COCONINO COUNTY.

SO THE COCONINO COUNTY CH 10000 ZONE, WHICH IS WHAT THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS, ALLOWS ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, CONVALESCENT HOMES AND RESIDENTIAL COLLECTIVE HOMES.

IT ALSO ALLOWS RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL BAKERIES.

THE NEW CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONING THAT THIS WOULD RECEIVE UPON ANNEXATION DOES ALLOW CUSTODIAL CARE USE, AND IT DOES REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT USE.

ONLY OF SHELTER FACILITIES ARE LOCATED WITHIN ONE QUARTER MILE.

AS PART OF CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW, THE APPLICANT DID AN ANALYSIS AND DID NOT FIND ANY.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS WILL BE CONFIRMED WITH SITE PLAN, BUT AT THIS POINT, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO BE NEEDED TO ALLOW FOR THIS USE AT THIS LOCATION IN THE H.S.

ZONE.

IT ALSO PERMITS A RESTAURANT AND CAFé BY RIGHT.

SECONDLY, THE COCONINO COUNTY CH 10000 ZONE HAS A 10000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT SIZE.

THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE AND THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS A 9000 SQUARE FOOT, LOT SIZE, MINIMUM LOT SIZE AND THEN FOR MINIMUM DIMENSIONS FOR COCONINO COUNTY ZONING, IT'S A 50 FOOT LOT WIDTH 100 FOOT LOT DEPTH IN THE CITY AT 60 FOOT LOT WIDTH 100 FOOT LOT DEPTH.

SO THE HC ZONING IN THE CITY IS THE MOST COMPARABLE TO THE COCONINO COUNTY ZONING, AND THUS IT MEETS THIS REQUIREMENT PER STATE LAW AND CITY CODE.

THE THIRD FINDING FOR APPROVAL OF ANNEXATIONS IS THAT THE ANNEXATION CONFORMS WITH THE FLAGSTAFF REGIONAL PLAN 2030 IN ANY APPLICABLE GOALS AND POLICIES.

SO THE FIRST IS THAT THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION SHOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE MAJORITY OF PERSONS OR PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA OR THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL.

SO THIS PROJECT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE TO SERVE NORTHERN ARIZONA.

IT'S ALSO INTENDED TO PROVIDE OR WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE UPON SITE PLAN APPROVAL UPON FORMAL APPROVAL.

IT WOULD PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT ROAD EDGE IMPROVEMENTS, ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, DARK-SKY COMPLIANT LIGHTING AND BUILDING ARCHITECTURE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CITY OF FLAGSTAFF ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS.

ANOTHER GOAL THAT THIS NEEDS TO CONFORM WITH IS THAT FROM THE CITY, FROM THE REGIONAL PLAN, EXCUSE ME, IS THAT UNINCORPORATED PROPERTIES MUST BE ANNEXED PRIOR TO THE PROVISION OF CITY SERVICES OR IF ANNEXATION ISN'T APPROPRIATE, THEN A PRE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT MUST BE EXECUTED.

SO THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL REQUIRE NEW CITY WATER AND SEWER SERVICES, AND THE PROPERTY IS REQUESTING ANNEXATION PRIOR TO THE PROVISION OF THESE SERVICES BECAUSE THE PARCEL IS ELIGIBLE TO ANNEX.

ANOTHER RELEVANT POLICY IS THAT DEVELOPMENT REQUIRING PUBLIC UTILITY SERVICES WILL BE LOCATED WITHIN THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY.

SO THIS PARCEL, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY IN THE WATER SERVICES WATER SEWER IMPACT ANALYSIS IS WITHIN THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY, SO WE CAN SEE THIS IS THE GROWTH BOUNDARY RIGHT HERE AND THIS IS THE PARCEL.

SO IT IS WITHIN THAT GROWTH BOUNDARY AND IS ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE WATER AND SEWER.

FINALLY, THE REGIONAL PLAN REQUIRES ANNEXATIONS TO DEMONSTRATE A FAVORABLE BENEFIT TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, SO THE PROPERTY, BECAUSE IT'S IN COCONINO COUNTY, IS CURRENTLY ASSESSED PROPERTY TAX AT A COUNTY RATE UPON ANNEXATION.

A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX ASSESSED TO THE PARCEL WILL GO TO THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

IT'S MOVING ON TO A SUMMARY OF CITIZEN PARTICIPATION, SO THE APPLICANT DID HOLD A VIRTUAL MEETING VIA ZOOM ON JUNE 30TH IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE STANDARDS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.

CITIZEN PARTICIPATION REPORT WAS PREPARED IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, AND THAT WAS PROVIDED TO TWO MEETING ATTENDEES, BOTH VIA MAIL AS WELL AS VIA EMAIL.

IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS NOTICED PER CITY CODE SECTIONS FOR PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATION.

PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS WERE NOTICED WITHIN 600 FEET OF THE SITE,

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EXCEEDING THE 300 FOOT RADIUS.

IT ALSO WAS NOTICED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW FOR ANNEXATIONS.

STAFF HAS SINCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING STAFF HAS RECEIVED QUESTIONS FROM THREE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ABOUT HOW THE FACILITY WOULD BE DESIGNED AND OPERATED.

HOWEVER, AS OF RIGHT NOW IN THIS PRESENTATION, NO FORMAL COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, SO WE'RE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TODAY ON DECEMBER 8TH.

THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED AS JANUARY 4TH, AND THAT'S A CITY COUNCIL ANNEXATION PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THE ANNEXATION BUT NOT TAKE ACTION.

FOLLOWING THAT, A FIRST READ OF THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE IS SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY 18TH.

A SECOND READ FOR FEBRUARY 1ST AND IF ADOPTED, IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT ON MARCH 3RD, WHICH IS 30 DAYS AFTER THE SECOND READ.

SO GOING BACK TO THE FINDINGS, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SHALL FIND THAT THE ANNEXATION APPLICATION MEETS THE REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL, THE FIRST THAT IT COMPLIES WITH CITY CODE, THE SECOND THAT IT MEETS ARIZONA STATE STATUTES, AND THE THIRD IS THAT IT MEETS ANY APPLICABLE GOALS AND POLICIES IN THE FLAGSTAFF REGIONAL PLAN 2030.

SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR THE ANNEXATION REQUEST TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ENTER INTO THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF CORPORATE LIMITS WITH HIGHLY COMMERCIAL ZONING AND A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY.

SO ALL THAT I HAVE FOR MY PRESENTATION, SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL, AND I BELIEVE THEY'VE ALSO PREPARED A PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, I SEE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

SO THIS MAY BE THE STUPID QUESTION OF THE DAY, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK IT IS THERE AND THIS JUST HAS TO DO, IS THERE A REASON THAT IT'S BETTER TO BE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS RATHER THAN THE COUNTY LIMITS, OR IS IT BECAUSE IT'S THE ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS AND IT'S EASIER TO BUILD ON ONE SIDE THAN THE OTHER, LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO BUILD HALF ON CITY AND HALF ON COUNTY.

IS THAT THE REASON FOR THE ANNEXATION? YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD MIND, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

OK, THANK YOU.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION? MIKE OR MICHELLE OR SOMEONE FROM SWI, YOU READY TO SHARE YOUR PRESENTATION? HI, GENEVIEVE, THIS GUILLERMO CORTEZ WITH SWI ENGINEERING.

OK, I SEE MIKE IS ABOUT TO, OR WAS JOINING THE CALL, IF I CAN ALSO ANSWER MAYBE THAT QUESTION THAT JUST CAME UP AS FAR AS THE EASE OR WHY ON EITHER SIDE.

MOSTLY IT COMES DOWN TO WATER AND SEWER.

WE WERE LOOKING TO GET WATER AND BEING ADJACENT.

YOU HAVE TO ANNEX IN ORDER TO GET WATER AND SEWER SERVICES INTO THE CITY, SO THAT'S THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THE ANNEXATION.

AND WE CAN GO INTO FURTHER DETAIL ON THAT.

THANK YOU, THAT WAS MY ASSUMPTION, BUT I WASN'T CERTAIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NO PROBLEM.

I SEE THAT MIKE AND MICHELLE ARE ON, BUT THEY'RE BOTH MUTED.

SO MIKE OR MICHELLE, CAN YOU HEAR? READY TO SHARE YOUR PRESENTATION? I APOLOGIZE, I WASN'T ABLE TO GET UNMUTED FOR SOME REASON.

THIS IS MICHELLE, I BELIEVE WE DON'T HAVE A VISUAL PRESENTATION, BUT MIKE DID HAVE A PRESENTATION PREPARED.

MIKE, ARE YOU ABLE TO JOIN US? CAN SOMEBODY HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR.

YES.

YES.

OK.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE AMERICA'S REHAB CAMPUSES AND THE FUTURE FLAGSTAFF REHAB CAMPUS.

GOOD EVENING CHAIR, MR. ZIMMERMAN AND VICE CHAIR MARIE JONES AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

I AM THE CEO OF AMERICA'S REHAB CAMPUSES AND WE CURRENTLY ARE OPERATING A TREATMENT CENTER DOWN IN THE TUCSON MARKETPLACE.

WE HAVE HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SUCCESS IN HOW WE HAVE TREATED THIS MAJOR HEROIN AND

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FENTANYL PROBLEM AND ALCOHOL PROBLEM, BUT PRIMARILY THE DRUG AND THE DRUG PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING IN OUR STATE AS THE BORDERS OBVIOUSLY BEEN A BIG PROBLEM AS WELL.

SO WE FOCUS PRIMARILY, I WOULD SAY THAT NINETY FIVE PERCENT OF OUR TREATMENT PATIENTS ARE OUR SERVICE THROUGH OUR THROUGH THE MEDICAID PROGRAM THAT THE STATE OF ARIZONA OFFERS.

AND WE DO OFFER AS WELL ASSISTANCE FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE COMMERCIAL INSURANCES SUCH AS CROSS BLUE SHIELD, UNITED, AETNA, CIGNA, ET CETERA.

WE ALSO WORK WITH THE AGENCIES, THE POLICE, THE FIRE, THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION, TRICARE PROGRAMS, ET CETERA.

WE'RE CURRENTLY TREATING ABOUT 4000 PATIENTS A YEAR.

THE PROGRAM OPENED IN 2017 AND WE RUN.

WHAT IS VERY UNUSUAL IN THE MARKETPLACE IS A FULL CONTINUUM OF CARE PROGRAM.

WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN AND REQUEST HELP AND THEY'RE IN OUR PROGRAM, THEY START OUT IN OUR IN OUR MEDICAL DETOXIFICATION SETTING, WHICH IN THIS CASE WILL BE A SEPARATE BUILDING ON THE CAMPUS.

AND WE WILL HAVE I BELIEVE IT'S APPROXIMATELY 30 BEDS OF MEDICAL DETOX WITH A FULL MEDICAL TEAM, DOCTORS, NURSES, ET CETERA, THAT TAKE THEM THROUGH THE FIRST STEP OF THEIR DETOXIFICATION ONCE THEY'VE DONE THAT.

THEY WILL THEN HAVE THE OPTION TO MOVE ON TO OUR RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM, WHICH WILL HOUSE BASICALLY ADJACENT TO THE THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE DETOX FACILITY THERE.

AND THOSE TWO BUILDINGS WILL BE SEPARATED BETWEEN THE MEN'S BUILDING AND THE WOMEN'S BUILDING, AND THOSE ARE BOTH HOUSED APPROXIMATELY 40 BEDS EACH.

THERE WILL BE A CENTRAL DINING AREA THAT ALSO HAS AN AMENITY FOR THINGS LIKE WORKOUT FACILITY AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT MEETINGS AND GATHERINGS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

ONCE THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM, THEY HAVE THE OPTION AT THAT POINT TO LEAVE THE PROGRAM AND GO INTO THEIR NORMAL DAILY LIVES.

OR THEY CAN CONTINUE ON INTO OUR WHAT WE CALL OUR INTENSIVE OUTPATIENT PROGRAM AND WE OFFER ACCOMMODATE THEM WITH A SOBER LIVING APARTMENT AS WELL.

AND IN THAT SITUATION, WE'VE GOT 60 FOR BEDS AGAIN SEPARATED BETWEEN THE MEN AND THE WOMEN, AND OUR PROGRAM IS FOR PEOPLE FROM THE AGES OF 18 TO 80 OR OR OLDER YEARS OF AGE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER REALLY BEEN A TOP END, BUT WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE IN THERE AS OLD AS 80 YEARS OLD THAT HAVE WANTED TO GET OFF OF THEIR VARIOUS DIFFERENT PAIN MEDS AND THINGS THAT THEY'VE GOT ADDICTED TO.

ON THE SOBER LIVING PROGRAM, THEY CAN STAY IN THAT PROGRAM FOR UPWARDS OF THREE TO SIX MONTHS AND THEY HAVE HOUSING THEY'RE TAUGHT TO IF THEY'RE IN THE YOUNGER OR YOUNGER GROUP OF PATIENTS.

THEY THEY'RE TAUGHT JOB SKILLS, THEY'RE TAUGHT LIVING SKILLS, THEY'RE TAUGHT TO GET RESUMES, THEY'RE TAUGHT OUT OF FINANCE.

WE HELP THEM REENTER SOCIETY IF THEY'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THE LAW OR THEY'VE LOST THEIR CHILDREN.

WE WORK WITH THE ARIZONA.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO ECONOMIC SOCIAL SERVICES TO GET THEIR CHILDREN BACK AND REUNITE THE FAMILIES WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN.

WE WORK VERY CLOSELY AND HAVE A VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD PROGRAM FOR PREGNANT MOMS THAT ARE ADDICTED TO DRUGS OR ALCOHOL AND ARE CURRENTLY PREGNANT AND WANT TO DELIVER THEIR CHILD FREE OF DRUGS, WHICH WE'VE HAD A HUNDRED PERCENT SUCCESS RATIO ON AT THIS POINT.

WE DECIDED TO COME INTO THE FLAGSTAFF MARKETPLACE BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND THAT WE ARE GETTING UP IN NORTHERN ARIZONA.

WE'VE HAD MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE WHO HAVE INQUIRED ABOUT OUR PROPERTY, OUR FACILITY, AND WE DO TRANSPORT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE STATE.

AND BUT THERE IS NOTHING UP IN THE FLAGSTAFF AREA THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND THAT HAS THIS FULL CONTINUUM OF CARE SETTING WHERE THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BASICALLY BE ALMOST LIKE ON A, I CALL IT, A COLLEGE CAMPUS TYPE SETTING WHERE THEY START OUT AS A FRESHMAN IN THEIR DETOX AND MOVE INTO RESIDENTIAL AS A SOPHOMORE.

AND THEN THEY'RE SOBER LIVING BECOMES THEIR THEIR JUNIOR SENIOR GRADUATING

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PROGRAM.

AT THAT POINT, THEY CAN STAY IN OUR OUTPATIENT PROGRAM FOR AS LONG AS THEY LIKE.

AS WE SAID IN OUR PRESENTATION, THESE PEOPLE DO NOT DRIVE TO THE CAMPUS, THEY DON'T DRIVE OFF THE CAMPUS.

THEY ARE ALWAYS MANAGED BY OUR STAFF.

CURRENTLY, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY SEVEN BEDS IN THE TUCSON MARKET, OF WHICH 207 BEDS IS THE RESIDENTIAL MEDICAL DETOX MUCH LARGER AND THE SOBER LIVING IS APPROXIMATELY 60 BEDS.

BUT IN THIS CASE, EVERYBODY IS MANAGED BY OUR TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM, AND AT ANY TIME SOMEONE DISCHARGES FROM THE PROGRAM, THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRANSPORT THEMSELVES OFF THE PROPERTY.

THEY EITHER HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE PICK THEM UP OR WE TRANSPORT THEM BACK TO THEIR HOUSE OR WHEREVER THEY MAY.

PARENTS, FAMILY, FAMILY, FRIENDS, WHEREVER THEY CAME FROM.

THE PROGRAM HAS WORKED EXTREMELY WELL.

WE ARE THE PREFERRED PROVIDER AND PLATINUM PROVIDER FOR UNITED HEALTHCARE, WHO HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE ACCESS PAYERS FOR THE ACCESS PROGRAM HERE IN THE STATE.

WE ALSO ARE WE ARE CONTRACTED WITH WITH CURRENTLY FIVE OF THE SEVEN CONTRACTS AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE OTHER TWO CONTRACTS PRIMARILY ARE PHOENIX AND NORTHERN ARIZONA.

WE ALSO ARE PLANNING THE SAME CAMPUS CONCEPT IN PHOENIX, AND WE BELIEVE THERE'S A REAL DEMAND IN THE PHOENIX MARKET AS WELL.

WE TRANSPORT ABOUT ONE HUNDRED PEOPLE A MONTH.

CURRENTLY, WE'RE TREATING OVER 300 A MONTH AND WE TRANSPORT ABOUT ONE HUNDRED A MONTH FROM THE PHOENIX MARKET DOWN TO THE TUCSON MARKET AND THEN BACK.

WE ALSO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE INDIAN TRIBES AS WE HAVE TRIBAL CONTRACTS AS WELL.

SO, THIS HAS BEEN THIS HAS TAKEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PRESSURE OFF THE HOSPITALS TO SOME MEDICAL CENTER ST.

JOSEPH'S HOSPITAL IN TUCSON AND ALL BEEN VERY, VERY COOPERATIVE AND EXCITED THAT WE HAVE REDUCED THERE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING IN THEIR EMERGENCY ROOMS STRUGGLING WITH THIS FENTANYL ADDICTION PROBLEM OR HEROIN OR ALCOHOLISM SITUATION.

WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE BORDER PATROL AND THE THE PRISON SYSTEMS. WE DO NOT TREAT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE JUST COME OUT OF THE PRISON SYSTEMS, ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE SOME, BUT THEY'RE ALL MANAGED BY THEIR PROBATION OFFICERS.

I WOULD SAY THE AVERAGE AGE CURRENTLY OF OUR OF OUR TREATMENT CENTER IS ABOUT 35 YEARS OF AGE.

WE TREAT APPROXIMATELY 66 PERCENT MALE, 33 THREE PERCENT FEMALE.

WE'VE GOT, WE COME IN HIGH REGARDS WITH ALL OF THEIR IS DIFFERENT ACCREDITATIONS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE OR WISH TO HAVE, WHICH I'LL LET MICHELLE CARRASCO, OUR CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, EXPLAIN THOSE THINGS TO YOU AS WELL.

AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE LINE OF VARIOUS DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER THAT GO ANYWHERE FROM PERSONAL COUNSELING TO CASE MANAGEMENT COUNSELING TO FAMILY COUNSELING TO MUSIC TO EQUESTRIAN PROGRAMS, P.T.S.D, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE IN THE FLAGSTAFF AREA AND COMING INTO YOUR COMMUNITY, WE THINK WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT LOCATION TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE.

WE'VE BEEN VERY WELL ACCEPTED BY THE POLICE.

THE FIRE, WILL LET MICHELLE TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

AND SO WE THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE AN ASSET TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ONE HUNDRED PLUS EMPLOYEES THERE WORKING FOR US, SO WE'LL BRING A WORKFORCE.

WE'LL HIRE PEOPLE IN THE FLAGSTAFF AREA THAT ARE LOOKING FOR WORK.

WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE ARIZONA CONTAINMENT SERVICES SYSTEM, WHICH IS CALLED ACCESS, HAS APPROXIMATELY TWO MILLION MEMBERS IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND GROWING, AND ABOUT 900000 TO A MILLION OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY UTILIZING THOSE SERVICES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE COMMERCIAL INSURANCE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A JOB OR IF THEY HAVE A JOB IT'S VERY LOW PAYING JOB AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE PREMIUMS ON THE COMMERCIAL PLANE.

SO WE HAVE MEDICAL DIRECTORS, WE HAVE NURSES.

I'LL LET MICHELLE GET INTO THAT WITH YOU, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY THE PROGRAM.

IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY MUCH OF A CABIN LOG, VERY TIMBERY KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL FLAVOR.

WE'RE ALSO VERY CONSCIOUS OF THINGS LIKE TRASH REMOVAL.

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WE WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUR OWN DIETARY PROGRAM, AND SO THEREFORE WE DO, WE HAVE BOXED GARDENS ON THE PROPERTY.

WE'LL HAVE A GARDEN THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN, THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN.

SO THEREFORE WE CREATE OUR OWN COMPOST TYPE AREAS WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF ADQ AND WHOEVER ELSE NEEDS TO BE MONITORING THOSE THINGS WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF OUR MEDICAL DISPOSAL IS ALL TRANSPORTED OFF THE PROPERTY.

AND I'LL LET MICHELLE GET INTO THE OTHER VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT WE TRY TO KEEP THE TRASH DOWN TO A MINIMUM AS WELL BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THOSE OBNOXIOUS BIG OLD TRASH DUMPSTERS, EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THEM ON THE PROPERTY.

WE TRY TO KEEP THAT TO A MINIMUM AS WELL.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT VARIOUS DIFFERENT SOLAR OPTIONS.

CURRENTLY, THERE'S A COUPLE BUILDINGS POTENTIALLY THAT WE'RE GOING TO POSSIBLY PUT A SOLAR UNIT ON TO WORK WITH THE SOLAR.

THE BENEFIT OF GREEN ENERGY.

WE'RE WORKING WITH PAUL BUSTAMANTE, OUR ARCHITECT AND THE ENGINEERS, TO DISCUSS HOW WE CAN DO THAT.

ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE A REAL BENEFIT BOTH TO THE THE ENVIRONMENT AND TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH THIS TERRIBLE ADDICTION.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE OVERDOSE DEATHS ARE DRAMATICALLY UP THIS YEAR AND WE'VE GOT A GREAT PROGRAM.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME THAT EITHER COME BACK TO OUR PROGRAM.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT A TWENTY FIVE PERCENT TO 30 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THROUGH OUR PROGRAM WILL COME BACK TO US AGAIN.

WE HAVE A VERY HIGH SUCCESS RATIO, SO WE DO KEEP IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE AND FOLLOW THEIR FOLLOW THEM AS BEST AS WE CAN.

IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO DO BECAUSE MANY TIMES THESE PEOPLE, ONCE THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A PROGRAM, THEY SORT OF DISAPPEAR INTO THE WOODWORK AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND THEM.

BUT BUT WE DO THE BEST WE CAN TO WORK THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER AS MANY OF THE QUESTIONS AS YOU MAY HAVE.

COMMISSIONER NOLAN.

AND I'M SORRY.

YES, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE BEFORE WE GO ON.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THOSE QUESTIONS NOW OR OR FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION? WE HAVE TWO.

I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER NOLAN, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD? SURE.

SO, MIKE, THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH A PRESENTATION.

YES.

WELL, WE'VE GOT MICHELLE'S GOT SOME THINGS.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE BEHAVIORAL ASPECTS OF THE BUSINESS, IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT SIDE OF IT A LITTLE MORE THAN WE CAN ANSWER, OR WE COULD ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE HER GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE CAN ANSWER SOME MORE QUESTIONS IF YOU LIKE COMMISSIONER.

OK, IF THERE'S MORE MATERIAL TO COME, THEN I'LL HOLD OFF AND DEFER TO CAROL FOR NOW.

THANK YOU.

OK.

SO THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO, AND MY ONLY COMMENT IT'S A COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE CITY'S PRESENTATION AND YOUR PRESENTATION THAT JUST TALKED ABOUT MAYBE ONLY TWO PEOPLE TAKING THE BUS TO GET THERE IN A WAY, SORRY, THAT MOUNTAIN LINE STILL ISN'T ON THIS MEETING, BUT I KNOW WITH NAU AND WITH OTHER LARGER UH BUSINESSES THAT MOUNTAIN LINE WORKS TO GET PASSES AVAILABLE TO EMPLOYEES, AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF OR MY COMMENT IS I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD TAKE THAT AVAILABILITY OR WORK WITH MOUNTAIN LINE TO GET SERVICES THERE AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY COULD PUT A BUS STOP ON THAT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD SO PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE TO CROSS A BUSY HIGHWAY.

THAT'S MY ONLY MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING REGARDING THE REGARDING WORKING WITH THE BUS SERVICE, MOUNTAIN LINE BUS SERVICE.

WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND GUILLERMO CAN ALSO MAYBE HIGHLIGHT MORE ON THIS AS WELL.

WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM AND HAVE DISCUSSED GETTING BUS PASSES FOR PEOPLE THAT EITHER WANT TO WORK FOR US.

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BUT THE REASON WE STATED THAT ONLY TWO PEOPLE WOULD USE THE BUS BASED ON OUR TUCSON, WE HAVE A BUS, A BUS STOP CURRENTLY RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR CAMPUS IN TUCSON.

AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IS THAT WE DON'T DISCHARGE PEOPLE OUT ON THEIR OWN.

THEY HAVE TO BE DISCHARGED TO SOMEBODY.

SO THEREFORE, MANY TIMES THERE'S ALWAYS A TRANSPORTATION BEEN ARRANGED FOR THOSE PEOPLE.

BUT THAT BEING SAID THAT WE MAY END UP WITH POTENTIALLY EMPLOYEES THAT WILL WANT TO UTILIZE THE BUS SERVICE IN FLAGSTAFF MORE THAN WE HAVE SEEN THEM UTILIZING IT.

WE ARE CURRENTLY OUT OF ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE EMPLOYEES IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

WE CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE TWO THAT TAKE THE BUS TO THE CAMPUS EVERY DAY, BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT WON'T BE MORE AND WE WILL.

WE ARE DEFINITELY WORKING WITH THE THE MOUNTAIN LINE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM TO ACCOMMODATE.

BUT IF WE WERE TO TRANSPORT SOMEBODY TO A BUS DEPOT, THEY WOULD THEY WOULD BE TRANSPORTED FROM OUR CAMPUS DOWN TO THE CHRISTMAS TREE LANE BUS STOP AND BE PUT ON THAT BUS.

BUT WE WOULD NEVER LET THEM CROSS THE HIGHWAY OR LEAVE ON THEIR OWN TO CROSS THE HIGHWAY.

YES, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I WAS MORE REFERRING TO EMPLOYEES THAT IF EMPLOYEES DIDN'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY COULD TAKE THE BUS AND BE ENCOURAGED TO TAKE THE BUS AND THEN IF BECAUSE THE BUS STOP IS LOCATED ACROSS THE HIGHWAY, IT WOULD BE.

OBVIOUSLY, A SAFETY ISSUE ABOUT CROSSING THERE, BUT ANYHOW, THAT THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING.

THIS IS MICHELE IN REGARDS TO THE BUS STOP, AND I AGREE WE DO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES AND OR TAKE A BUS.

THINGS OF THAT NATURE AT OUR CURRENT CAMPUS, ONE OF THE DILEMMAS THAT WE HAVE ARE OBSTACLES WE HAVE IS BECAUSE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THEM ARE SHIFT WORKER AND THEY'RE COMING IN AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND OR LEAVING AT COMING IN AT MIDNIGHT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S HARDER TO TAKE THE TRANSIT SYSTEM WITH THOSE TYPE, THOSE TYPE OF HOURS.

SO THAT'S BEEN PART AND SOME OF OUR DILEMMAS IN REGARDS TO THAT AND OR STRUGGLES IN GETTING PEOPLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE I'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH TUCSON AND THE CITY OF TUCSON IN REGARDS TO ALTERNATIVE TRAVEL SUCH AS BIKES AND RIDE SHARES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND IT'S NOT AS SUCCESSFUL IN THE SETTING BECAUSE OF THE SHIFT WORKER AND THE 12 HOUR SHIFTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UNDERSTANDABLE.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

MICHELLE, FOR THE RECORD, I NEED YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

OH, IT'S MICHELLE CARRASCO, 6101 EAST PALOMINO LANE, SCOTTSDALE, ARIZONA EIGHT FIVE TWO SIX SIX.

AND YOU'RE WITH AMERICAN REHAB CAMPUS, RIGHT? YES, I AM.

WERE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO MIKE AND WHAT HE WAS SPEAKING OF? I THINK WE I THINK WE LOST ERIC.

HE JUST POPPED OFF.

OH, HERE HE IS.

ERIC, DID YOU STILL HAVE THAT QUESTION? AH, YES I DID.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, MIKE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THAT'S REALLY INFORMATIVE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.

I'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH DRUG ADDICTION IN MY FAMILY AND ANY SERVICE OUT THERE THAT CAN HELP IMPROVE THOSE SITUATIONS, I'M ALL FOR US, SO JUST REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE AND MICHELLE, YOUR WORK AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS IN FLAGSTAFF.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHO YOU'VE WORKED WITH LOCALLY THAT KNOWS WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND CAN JUST KIND OF WELCOME YOU INTO THE PROCESS.

SO THIS IS MICHELLE, I HAVE SPOKEN IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT IN REGARDS TO I HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS SET UP IN PERSON WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT DUE TO COVID, WE HAD TO CANCEL SEVERAL OF THEM AND OTHER MEETINGS AND STUFF, BUT I HAVE I HAVE PERSONALLY SPOKEN TO BOTH ENTITIES IN REGARDS TO IT AND THEIR EXCITEMENT ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY HAD QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO WHO CAN COME, HOW DO THEY ACCEPT? HOW DO WE ACCEPT A CLIENT? YOU KNOW, IS IT 24-7 AND THOSE THINGS?

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SO YEAH, WE'VE BEEN WELCOMED.

SO FAR, IT APPEARS TO BE GRACIOUSLY.

THANKS, AND I COULDN'T TELL MIKE, WHERE YOU ALSO CHIMING IN.

NO, NO, NO ERIC, SEE MICHELLE HAS BEEN MORE INVOLVED IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY CONTACTS AND CONNECTIONS.

WE WE'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT WE'VE KNOWN UP THERE AND WE'VE GOT THE SAME RESPONSE, ERIC, THAT THIS IS THIS IS A REAL NEED THAT THAT IS DESIRABLE AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY.

OK THANK YOU AND GO AHEAD.

WE ALSO SPOKE TO IN THE PREVIOUS HEARING THAT WE HAD THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE SPOKE TO SEVERAL OF THOSE AND THEY ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO STAFFING AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO ADDRESSED A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES ALSO.

OK, THANK YOU, MIKE AND MICHELLE, SO I THINK MY QUESTION MIGHT BE MORE DIRECTED TOWARDS STAFF, THEN I SHOULD KNOW THIS, BUT I DON'T.

I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI WAS BRINGING IN THE CAHOOTS MODEL AND I THOUGHT SOMETHING HAD GONE THROUGH.

I HAVEN'T CHECKED UP ON THAT IN A MINUTE.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK IN TANDEM WITH THIS ORGANIZATION? I DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY.

THAT'S VERY POSSIBLE.

I'D LOVE TO SPEAK TO THEM IN REGARDS TO THAT, TO SEE HOW WE COULD WORK TOGETHER.

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT IT'S A DEFINITE.

GREAT, THANKS, MICHELLE.

HAS ANYONE FROM STAFF, ARE THEY AWARE OF THE PROGRAM I'M REFERRING TO? AH COMMISSIONER NOLAN ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE MODEL? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT'S HANDLING IT, BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.

SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD CONNECT WITH MICHELLE TO INVOLVE THEM IN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT.

YEAH, I HAVE NOT.

THANK YOU FOR ASKING.

I HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THAT, BUT I WILL.

MICHELLE AND MIKE, YOU CAN WE CAN CHAT ABOUT THIS AFTERWARD AND ABSOLUTELY YOU'RE WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO COUNCIL PEOPLE OR OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED WHO ARE WORKING ON THAT.

I KNOW WE'D LOVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND YEAH, DEFINITELY, I'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT PROGRAM, WHAT IT ENTAILS AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND PARTNER UP.

THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING.

AND, MICHELLE, IF YOU REACH OUT TO STAFF ON THIS, IT'S OK IF THEY GIVE YOU MY EMAIL ADDRESS, I CAN ALSO CONNECT YOU WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI AND THE WORK THAT HE'S DONE.

AND I WANT TO SAY COUNCIL DID PASS SOMETHING I JUST DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT.

SO I THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT CONNECTION POINT FOR YOU.

YEAH, FANTASTIC.

I WILL SPEAK WITH GENEVIEVE AND GET YOUR EMAIL, AND I'D LOVE TO START BUILDING THAT PARTNERSHIP AGAIN.

LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE GO INTO THE COMMUNITY WELL ARMED WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE, ALL THE RESOURCES.

SO YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MENTIONING IT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS, MICHELLE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

AND JUST AGAIN, THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THE NAU AMERICORPS PROGRAM HAS A PROGRAM, AND YOU MAY WANT TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT THAT IT'S CALLED.

THERE'S NO I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT IT'S CALLED, BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONTACT THE NEW AMERICORPS PROGRAM.

THEY DO HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE AMERICORPS MEMBERS WORK WITH YOU.

ANYHOW, IT'S JUST AND YOU MAY JUST WANT TO, IN GENERAL, CONTACT AGAIN THE NAU SOCIAL WORK AND PSYCHOLOGY DEPARTMENT.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

I CAN'T WAIT TO DOVE INTO THAT AND GET INTERNS AND AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND START RUNNING OUR INTERN NURSING NURSING PROGRAM AND INTERN LICENSED THERAPISTS OR THERAPISTS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE TO DO IS INTRODUCE THOSE PEOPLE INTO THE PROGRAM AND MENTOR.

WE GET A LOT OF GREAT STAFF THAT WAY AND WE GROW A LOT OF GREAT LEADERSHIP THAT WAY.

I'M VERY BIG ABOUT GROWING OUR LEADERSHIP INTERNALLY AND MENTORING, SO THAT'S ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE FIRST DIRECTIONS I'M DIVING INTO AND WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER

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DOWN THE LINE BECAUSE I CANNOT WAIT TO DO THAT.

AND SO THANK YOU.

THOSE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, MAY BE ATTRACTED TO THE AMERICORPS PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY NOT ONLY EARN UM CREDIT.

THEY CAN ALSO GET A STIPEND FOR, YEAH, VOLUNTEERING WITH YOU.

SO I'M JUST ADVOCATING THAT YOU CONTACT BOTH.

NO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH-HUH.

I'D LIKE TO REACH OUT TO YOU ALSO THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT NEEDS TO BE WITH THAT PROGRAM.

SO I CERTAINLY WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT AND TO BE WITH THE COLLEGE OF SOCIAL AND BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES.

OH, LOVELY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, MICHELLE.

I'M WONDERING IF SO? SO SINCE YOU WORK WITH ACCESS, IF SOMEBODY SHOWS UP WITHOUT INSURANCE, YOU'RE YOU WOULD BE ASSISTING THEM TO APPLY FOR ACCESS TO PAY FOR TREATMENT.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

WE DO THAT AND WE DO ASSIST CLIENTS ENROLLING IN ACCESS.

WE DO THAT RIGHT ON OUR CAMPUS.

OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF YOU KNOW, WE DO GET WALK INS, BUT WE MOST OF OUR CLIENTS ARE.

IT'S A BEEN A PHONE CALL.

IT'S GENERATED AND AN APPOINTMENT IS SET.

AND IF WE FIND OUT THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS, WE KIND OF START THAT PROCEDURE PRIOR TO THAT.

SO WHEN THEY COME IN JUST LIKE A PUSH OF A BUTTON.

BUT YES, WE DO THAT.

WE DO SCHOLARSHIPS FOR CLIENTS ALSO.

I MEAN, THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST GENEROUS THINGS MIKE DID, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE FIRST OPENED IN REGARDS TO THE AMOUNT OF SCHOLARSHIPS THAT WE GAVE OUT TO PEOPLE THAT WE, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T AT THE TIME, CONTRACTED WITH THEIR INSURANCE COMPANIES.

SO WE'RE DEFINITELY HELP WITH THAT.

WE HELP GETTING THEM THERE.

THEIR CARDS, IF THEY QUALIFY FOR THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN THEY ARE DISCHARGED FROM THE CAMPUS, WE'VE BEEN RECOGNIZED BY ALMOST EVERY PAYER AND OR INSURANCE COMPANY THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH IN REGARDS TO OUR DISCHARGE PLANNING THAT PEOPLE HAVE A SOLID PLAN WHEN THEY LEAVE, EVEN IF THEY DECIDE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE.

WE HAVE A PLAN.

AT THE END OF DETOX, AT THE IN THE RESIDENTIAL, AT THE END OF OUTPATIENT, SO WE BUILD IT WHATEVER LEVEL, EVEN IF THEY'RE CONTINUING.

WE CONTINUE TO BUILD IT IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THEY NEED TO LEAVE OR GO HOME FOR WHATEVER REASON.

SO, ABSOLUTELY AND I DID WANT A REAL QUICK ADDRESS THE FACT OF I KNOW YOU WERE ASKING IN REGARDS TO EMPLOYEES USING THE BUS, BUT I WILL MENTION THAT THE ACCESS PAYERS, MEDICAID PAYERS, WE THEY DO PAY FOR RIDES FOR THEIR CLIENTS.

SO WE DO SET THOSE RIDES UP FOR CLIENTS IF THEY HAVE MAYBE POTENTIALLY A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THEY WOULDN'T BE TAKING THE BUS FOR THOSE TYPE OF APPOINTMENTS EITHER.

OK, GREAT.

AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION, DO YOU DO YOU WORK WITH VERY MANY VETERANS? WE DO.

WE DO WORK WITH VETERANS.

WE I WORK WITH WE WORK WITH VETERANS, WE WORK WITH THE TUCSON FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM.

WE'VE DONE MANY FIRE PEAK PERSONNEL IN REGARDS TO TREATMENT, WE'VE DONE POLICE OFFICERS, WE'VE DONE BORDER PATROLS, SO FIRST RESPONDERS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE.

DO A LOT OF AND WE DO SOME SCHOLARSHIP OF THAT POPULATION ALSO.

SO, YEAH, WE DO ACCEPT TRICARE INSURANCE, SO WE ARE CONTRACTED WITH TRICARE.

THANK YOU.

I DON'T SEE ANYMORE COMMISSION QUESTIONS, AND SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ISSUE? AND DON'T SEE ANY OF THOSE, EITHER.

SO WE ARE READY FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AND OR A MOTION.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE UM TO APPROVE PZ-20-00164-04.

AND ACTUALLY, BEFORE I DO THIS, MARIE WAS THERE? DID YOU OPEN THIS UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, THERE WERE NO, NO PUBLIC COMMENT, I JUST I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU OPEN IT TO COMMISSIONERS, BUT NOT PUBLIC COMMENT, SO I'M SORRY.

YOU.

BEFORE YOU GO ON WITH THAT MOTION, CAN I JUST POINT OUT THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING TO CITY COUNCIL, OK, YOU'RE GOING TO FORWARD.

SO IF YOU CAN JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU ADJUST YOUR MOTION ACCORDINGLY.

OK, THANK YOU.

AND COMMISSIONER MANDINO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GENEVIEVE.

I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THIS IS THE DASH 03 ITEM.

04 IS THE NEXT ONE.

DID I OKAY? I'M READING THE WRONG ONE.

YEAH, YOU'RE CORRECT.

SO I TAKE BACK WHAT I SAID, AND I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE FLAGSTAFF REHAB CAMPUS ANNEXATION PZ-20-00164-03.

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ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY TEN POINT SIX, TEN POINT ZERO SIX ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7000 NORTH HIGHWAY EIGHTY NINE WITH IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FINDINGS PRESENTED IN THE REPORT.

AND YEAH, WITH AND WITH THE CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER NOLAN, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I THINK NOT, AND SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANYBODY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

THAT PASSES, AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM, C, IT IS PZ200016404 ALSO THE FLAGSTAFF REHAB CAMPUS.

OK, THANK YOU EVERYONE.

THIS IS GENEVIEVE PEARTHREE AGAIN, I AM PRESENTING NOW THE CONCURRENCE CONCEPT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR THIS PARCEL, AND I'LL JUST GO QUICKLY THROUGH EVERYTHING SINCE YOU'VE HEARD MOST OF IT ALREADY.

SO IT'S THE WRONG.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY 04, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT PROJECT NUMBER, ANYWAY.

FLAGLAND LLC IN THIS CASE, REQUESTS A CONCEPT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT OF 1.1 ACRES, SO THAT IS WITHIN THAT LARGER TEN POINT ZERO SIX ACRE PARCEL THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED WITH THE ANNEXATION REQUEST.

AND THE REZONING REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL WITH THE

[C. PZ-20-00164-04: Flagstaff Rehab Campus A request from Flagland LLC for a Concept Zoning Map Amendment of approximately 1.10 acres of a larger 10.06-acre parcel of real property located generally at 7000 North Highway 89 from from the Highway Commercial (HC) zone with a Resource Protection Overlay (RPO) to the Rural Residential (RR) zone with a Resource Protection Overlay (RPO). STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Staff recommends the Planning and Zoning Commission, in accordance with the findings presented in this report, forward the Concept Zoning Map Amendment application to the City Council with a recommendation for approval with conditions.]

RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING WITH A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS REZONING REQUEST IS TO ALLOW AN EQUINE OR HORSE THERAPY FACILITY.

SO THAT TYPE OF FACILITY IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE, BUT IT IS ALLOWED IN THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONE WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AND THAT WOULD BE A FUTURE SUBMITTAL.

SO BOTH THE ZONING CODE ALLOWS IT IN THE RR ZONE, AS WELL AS THE POLICE CODE OR THE ANIMAL KEEPING REGULATION SECTION SPECIFICALLY, WHICH ALLOWS LARGE LIVESTOCK, INCLUDING HORSES, IN THE RR ZONE.

SO THIS EQUINE THERAPY FACILITY WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE PRIMARY USE, WHICH IS THE REHAB CAMPUS.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS DEPENDENT ON A SUCCESSFUL ANNEXATION.

THAT'S WHY THESE CASES ARE BEING HEARD CONCURRENTLY.

THIS ONE JUST AFTER THE ANNEXATION.

SO AGAIN, THE AREA OF THE REZONING REQUESTS, WE CAN SEE THAT'S IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS.

THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT KINDS.

THE FIRST ONE IS A DIRECT TO ORDINANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN, SO THAT REQUIRES THE APPLICANT TO SUBMIT FULLY DEVELOPED SITE PLANS WITH ALL THE SUPPORTING INFORMATION REQUIRED FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW.

SO THAT'S VERY DETAILED, MUCH MORE DETAILED ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS, BUILDING ELEVATIONS, HOOPS, BUILDING ELEVATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND IN THIS CASE, IN THAT CASE, ONCE A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, THE PROJECT CAN PROCEED DIRECTLY TO CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW.

THE SECOND TYPE OF ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS THE CONCEPT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, WHICH IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TODAY, AND IT ALLOWS THEM TO SUBMIT A CONCEPT PLAN AND THEN PURSUE SITE PLAN APPROVAL AFTER REZONING.

SO I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE'VE GONE THROUGH CONCEPT PLAN.

IT'S NOT A FORMAL APPROVAL, AND THAT MEANS WE HAVEN'T.

STAFF HAS NOT REVIEWED BUILDING HEIGHTS, LANDSCAPE PLANS, OUTDOOR LIGHTING PLAN SIGNAGE OR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WILL HAPPEN WITH FUTURE SUBMITTERS.

AGAIN, JUST THE LAYOUT OF THE SITE, WE CAN SEE THE FOUR PARCELS, WE CAN SEE THE AREA OF THE REZONING REQUEST OVER HERE, WHICH IS WHERE THAT EQUESTRIAN FACILITY WILL BE LOCATED.

SO I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY AN EQUESTRIAN RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS ALLOWED IN THE RR ZONE.

IT DOES REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SO THAT WILL BE A FUTURE SUBMITTAL AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS ARE GRANTED BY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

SO IF THIS AREA IS ANNEXED AND ZONED, AND ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT, YOU WILL BE SEEING THIS AGAIN FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO THEY ARE PROPOSING AN 1800 SQUARE FOOT STABLE WITH THE SEVEN HUNDRED SQUARE

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FOOT PATIO IN ADDITION TO A PASTURE AND PADDOCK AREA.

IT ALSO, AGAIN IS REQUIRED TO MEET RESOURCE PROTECTION STANDARDS, HOWEVER, IN THIS RESIDENTIAL ZONE SECTION HERE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PRESERVE 50 PERCENT OF THE TRUE RESOURCES INSTEAD OF 30, WHICH IS THE REST OF THE SITE OVER HERE.

SO WITHIN THIS AREA, THEY'RE PROTECTING 74 PERCENT OF THE TREE RESOURCES.

AND THERE ARE NO STEEP SLOPES.

SO THEN ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THEY'RE PROTECTING 63 PERCENT OF THE TREE RESOURCES.

SO SECTION SIX THREE DASH ZERO ZERO ONE ZERO ZERO ZERO THREE KEEPING OF LIVESTOCK THAT'S IN THE POLICE CODE I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.

IT ALLOWS LARGE LIVESTOCK, INCLUDING HORSES, IN THE RR ZONE.

AGAIN, THOSE AREN'T ALLOWED IN THE ZONE, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE REQUESTING THE REZONING.

IT ALSO STATES THAT SITES THAT ARE 40000 SQUARE FEET TO SEVENTY THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED NINETY NINE SQUARE FEET ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE UP TO FOUR LARGE LIVESTOCK ANIMALS.

SO ON A ONE POINT ONE ACRE SITE, WHICH IS WHAT THIS RR ZONE SECTION WOULD BE, THE APPLICANT COULD HAVE UP TO FOUR HORSES.

THEY STATED THEY INTEND TO HAVE TWO TO FOUR AS LONG AS THEY CAN ALSO MEET THESE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR PROVIDING 10000 SQUARE FEET OF PASTURE REQUIRED PER ANIMAL, AS WELL AS MEETING SPECIFIC SET BACK REQUIREMENTS.

SO COMPLIANCE WITH THE RELEVANT STANDARDS FOR THE KEEPING OF HORSES WILL BE CONFIRMED WITH SITE PLANS SUBMITTAL.

BUT STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE SITE IS LARGE ENOUGH TO MEET THE INTENT OF THESE STANDARDS, SO THE PUBLIC SYSTEMS ANALYSIS IS ALSO A REQUIREMENT OF A CONCEPT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.

THEY WERE THE SAME AS WHAT WAS CONDUCTED FOR ANNEXATION, SO WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, WATER AND SEWER AND STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH I ALREADY DISCUSSED IN THE ANNEXATION CASE.

THE FIRST FINDING FOR APPROVAL IS THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT MUST BE FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH AND IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND ANY SPECIFIC PLANS.

IF IT'S NOT CONSISTENT, THEN THE PLANS MUST BE UPDATED BEFORE WE CAN CONSIDER THE AMENDMENT.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE NO SPECIFIC PLANS THAT ARE AFFECTING THE SITE, AND STAFF HAS FOUND THAT IT DOES MEET THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

SO THE PROPERTY IS AN AREA IN WHITE, AS IDENTIFIED IN THE REGIONAL PLAN 2030.

THAT MEANS THAT THESE AREAS RETAIN EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS.

SO IN THIS CASE, UPON ANNEXATION, IT WOULD HAVE THE SAME ENTITLEMENTS IT HAD BEFORE, AND THERE'S NO SPECIFIC LAND USE CATEGORY.

IT'S ALSO LOCATED IN A FUTURE RURAL ACTIVITY CENTER, WHICH IS CHARACTERIZED BY LOW DENSITY AND ABUNDANCE OF OPEN SPACES AND AGRICULTURAL USES.

AND IT'S IN A FUTURE RURAL PEDESTRIAN SHED AS WELL, WHICH IS ABOUT A QUARTER MILE RACE RADIUS AROUND THE ACTIVITY CENTER.

THE STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THE OVERALL BUILDING TYPE AND LAND USE PROPOSAL MEET THE INTENT OF THE RURAL FEATURED RURAL ACTIVITY CENTER INTENDED FOR THIS AREA SO MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY IN THE ANNEXATION APPLICATION, IT IS IN THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY AND THE APPLICANT NARRATIVE THAT'S ATTACHED IN THE P&Z PACKET DOES OUTLINE CONFORMANCE WITH THE REGIONAL PLAN.

STAFF ACTUALLY DID NOT IDENTIFY ANY CONFLICTING GOALS OR POLICIES IN THE REGIONAL PLAN OR ANY GOALS OR POLICIES THAT CONFLICT WITH THIS PROJECT.

SO JUST THE SUMMARY THAT THIS PROJECT MEETS GOALS TO PROTECT ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS, PROTECT TREES AND SLOPED AREAS, ALSO IMPLEMENT BEST PRACTICES FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF HORSES TO CONTROL THE SPREAD OF EXOTIC OR INVASIVE WEEDS ASSOCIATED WITH FEED OR OTHER THINGS OF KEEPING.

HORSES ALSO DISCUSSES RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECTS AND RECYCLING.

THE SITE LAYOUT AND BUILDING DESIGN HAS BEEN DESIGNED IN A WAY TO BE CONTEXT SENSITIVE AND INCORPORATE FLAGSTAFF DESIGN TRADITIONS AND ALSO THEIR APPLICANT'S NARRATIVE STATES THAT THEY'LL PROVIDE MORE THAN 100 JOBS, THEREBY FOSTERING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

THE SECOND FINDING IS THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT MUST BE DETERMINED NOT TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST, HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE OR WELFARE OF THE CITY FLAGSTAFF, AND IT WILL ALSO ADD TO THE PUBLIC GOOD AS DESCRIBED IN THE GENERAL PLAN.

THE STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC INTEREST, HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE OR WELFARE, AND STAFF ALSO BELIEVES THAT IT WILL ADD TO THE PUBLIC GOOD.

AS DISCUSSED IN THE DEVELOPERS PROJECT NARRATIVE AND SUMMARIZED BELOW, SO AS MIKE AND MICHELLE MENTIONED, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE A SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT CAMPUS FOR FLAGSTAFF AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES WILL SERVE PATIENTS RANGING FROM 18 TO 80 PLUS YEARS OLD.

IT'S BASED ON THE COMPANY'S EXISTING TREATMENT PROGRAM IN TUCSON, ARIZONA.

ALSO STATED THAT THEY INTEND TO CONSTRUCT A VISUALLY APPEALING PROJECT FOR PEOPLE ENTERING THE CITY LIMITS FROM NORTH HIGHWAY 89.

AND SPECIFICALLY, THE EQUINE THERAPY PROGRAM AIMS TO POSITIVELY CONTRIBUTE TO PATIENT'S COGNITIVE, PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL AND SOCIAL WELL-BEING, ACHIEVE GOALS SET FORTH BY THE CLINICAL TEAM, AND PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT OF LIFE SKILLS TO ACHIEVE PATIENT'S

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EDUCATIONAL, PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL GOALS.

LAST FINDING IS THAT THE SITE MUST BE DETERMINED TO BE PHYSICALLY SUITABLE IN TERMS OF DESIGN, LOCATION, SHAPE, SIZE AND OPERATING CHARACTERISTICS, AND THE PROVISION OF PUBLIC AND EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS, PUBLIC SERVICES AND UTILITIES TO ENSURE THAT THE REQUESTED ZONE DESIGNATION AND THE PROPOSED OR ANTICIPATED USES AND OR DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT ENDANGER, JEOPARDIZE OR OTHERWISE CONSTITUTE A HAZARD TO THE PROPERTY OR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE VICINITY IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED.

[INAUDIBLE] THIS INNER DIVISION STAFF OR IDS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AS PART OF THE CONCEPT PLAN IN THE CONCEPT ZONING MAP APPLICATION AS WELL.

AND IT CONCLUDED THAT THE SITE WAS SUITABLE FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT WAS THAT, COMPLETE WITH CONDITIONS THAT THESE APPLICATIONS RECEIVED AND THE IDEAS TEAM BASED ITS CONCLUSION ON THE REVIEW OF ALL APPLICABLE CODES AND REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL AS THIS IMPACT ANALYZES THAT I DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.

HERE'S A SUMMARY OF THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION THIS IS THE SAME AS WHAT I DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY FOR THE ANNEXATION.

BASICALLY, THE APPLICANT HAS MET THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS PUBLIC HEARING AND NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS AS WELL, AND AGAIN, NO FORMAL COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED TO DATE ABOUT THIS APPLICATION FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE IN THE REZONING PROCESS.

SO WE HAVE TODAY, P AND Z MEETING JANUARY 18TH IS THE SCHEDULE OF THE CITY COUNCIL FIRST READ ORDINANCE, FIRST READ FOR THE REZONING APPLICATION FEBRUARY 1ST AS THE SECOND READ, AND THEN IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT 60 DAYS AFTER THE SECOND READ.

SO 30 DAYS AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE IF BOTH ARE ADOPTED.

SO IN SUMMARY, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED CONCEPT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE REQUIRED FINDINGS.

THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE REQUEST TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING MAP FOR ONE POINT ONE ZERO ACRES FROM THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE, WITH THE RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY TO THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONE, WITH THE RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

NUMBER ONE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SHALL BE DEVELOPED IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN, NATURAL RESOURCE PROTECTION PLAN AND PROJECT NARRATIVE, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE PROPOSED DENSITY INTENSITY IN GENERAL LAYOUT OF THE SITE, GIVEN A COMPLETE WITH CONDITIONS BY THE INNER DIVISION STAFF ON MARCH 16, 2021.

NUMBER TWO, THE PROPOSED EQUESTRIAN RECREATIONAL FACILITY WILL BE AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE PRIMARY CUSTODIAL CARE USE SHOWN, WHICH IS THE REHAB CAMPUS SHOWN IN THE CONCEPT PLAN HAS ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FOUR BED MENTAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT CAMPUS.

B, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHALL OBTAIN A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE EQUESTRIAN RECREATIONAL FACILITY AS REQUIRED BY THE ZONING CODE AS A CONDITION OF SITE PLANNING APPROVAL.

THAT THE PROPOSED, NUMBER FOUR, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHALL MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS IN CITY CODE SECTION SIX ZERO THREE ANIMAL KEEPING FOR THE KEEPING OF HORSES.

NUMBER FIVE, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHALL MEET ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING CODE AND OTHER CITY CODES, ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS.

AND NUMBER SIX, IN THE EVENT THE PROPERTY IS RE-ZONED AND THE DEVELOPER FAILS TO OBTAIN FINAL CIVIL PLAN APPROVAL WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE REZONING ORDINANCE, THEN THE CITY MAY SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PURPOSE OF CAUSING THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY TO REVERT TO THE FORMER CLASSIFICATION OF HIGHWAY, COMMERCIAL OR ZONING WITH A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE STATUTE.

ALL I HAVE FOR MY PRESENTATION, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

MIKE AND MICHELLE ARE ALSO AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER NOLAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GENEVIEVE, SO THIS IS FOR A CONCEPT PLAN, AND I THINK YOU DID BRIEFLY MENTION THAT EARLIER, I JUST DIDN'T CATCH IT BECAUSE I WAS THINKING.

WHEN WILL THE SITE PLAN COME UP FOR APPROVAL, AND IF IT DOES, DOES THAT COME THROUGH P&Z AS WELL? SO SITE PLAN WOULD OCCUR AFTER THE APPROVAL, CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE ANNEXATION AND REZONING, SO THE SITE PLAN IS A STAFF ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.

HOWEVER, THE EQUESTRIAN FACILITY DOES REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SO YOU WILL BE SEEING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL WILL BE CONTINGENT ON THE APPLICANT RECEIVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE THE HORSE FACILITIES, BASICALLY.

OK, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER PAUL.

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THANKS JUST TO COMMENT.

I THINK THAT THIS IS A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO THE OVERALL FACILITY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY RESERVATIONS WITH THIS WHATSOEVER.

SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING TO BE INCLUDED AND MAKE SOMETHING THAT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY EVEN BETTER.

SO THANKS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? IF NOT, THEN TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS PROJECT? AND DON'T SEE ANY.

SO BACK TO THE COMMISSION, WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER PAUL, I MOVE THAT WE FORWARD P Z-20-00164-04 TO THE CITY COUNCIL RECOMMENDING APPROVAL THAT, AS PRESENTED, EVERYTHING IS IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE REQUIRED FINDINGS TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING MAP FOR 1.1 ZERO ACRES FROM THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL H C ZONE WITH A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY TO THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL RR ZONE WITH A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AS OUTLINED IN THE REPORT.

IF I NEED TO READ THROUGH ALL SIX CONDITIONS, I'M HAPPY TO, BUT IF THAT'S SUFFICIENT, THAT'S FINE AS WELL.

I THINK THAT'S FINE, JUST THE CONDITIONS AS LISTED.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO, I SECOND THAT MOTION.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? WELL, THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE SIGNIFY WITH AN AYE.

AYE.

ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? AND THE MOTION CARRIES THANK YOU.

THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM D.

PZ20-00010-0003, IT'S THE PLAZA WAY CONDOS.

[D. PZ-20-00100-03: Plaza Way Condos A Conditional Use Permit request from Miramonte Acquisitions, LLC to establish a Planned Residential Development (PRD) on a portion of lot 10 within the Woodlands Village Unit 1 subdivision. The PRD consists of 40 multi-family residential units on 1.71 acres located at 1580 S Plaza Way within the Highway Commercial (HC) zone. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: In accordance with the findings presented in this report, staff recommends approval of PZ-20-00100-03 with conditions.]

WE'RE READY FOR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS TIFFANY ANTOL, SENIOR PLANNER.

I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE SEEING MY SCREEN.

ANYBODY CAN SEE IT YET? YEP.

YES.

YES.

YAY.

YEAH, LOTS OF RESOUNDING YESES.

SO OH, I NEED TO GET IT TO PRESENT.

THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I AM HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT PLAZA WAY APARTMENT.

SORRY, IT GOES BACK BETWEEN CONDOS AND APARTMENTS.

THE ORIGINAL PROJECT NAME WAS CONDOS, BUT NOW IT IS CALLED APARTMENTS.

SO WITH THAT, LET'S GET STARTED.

SO THIS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 15 80 SOUTH PLAZA WAY.

IT'S THE SITE DEMARCATED WITH THE STAR ON THE MAP TO THE RIGHT, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT 40 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THIS SITE.

THE REQUEST IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON ONE POINT SEVENTY ONE ACRES IN THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE.

SO THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH IS ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OPEN AND IS CURRENTLY VACANT.

ADJACENT TO THAT.

IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE, YOU ESSENTIALLY HAVE A SERIES OF IT'S MORE LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING AND INCLUDES MEDICAL OFFICES AND THE LIKE.

DIRECTLY TO THE WEST, THERE IS A SIMILAR PROPERTY ZONED HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS ALSO VACANT.

THEN BEYOND THAT, YOU ALSO HAVE MIXED OR SORT OF LIKE A MIXED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX THAT CONSISTS OF A MULTITUDE OF DIFFERENT USES.

TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS A PARCEL IN THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONE.

IT IS A CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY.

IT IS ACTUALLY LEGAL, NON-CONFORMING, USED IN THAT ZONE.

AND TO THE EAST YOU HAVE TWO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT ALREADY EXIST.

BOTH ALSO IN THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL ZONE WITH THE ISSUANCE OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS AND JUST TO THE NORTH OF THAT IS A COMMERCIAL.

IT'S A SHOPPING CENTER, IT DOES HAVE SOME RESTAURANT USES, IT HAS MEDICAL OFFICES

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AND OTHER REGULAR OFFICES AS WELL.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

THERE ARE TWO THREE STORY BUILDINGS, SORRY, I GET A LITTLE EXCITED WITH THE 3'S TWO THREE STORY BUILDINGS LOCATED ON THE SITE.

EACH BUILDING HAS 20 UNITS.

THOSE BUILDINGS CONSIST OF STUDIO, ONE AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS.

THE BUILDINGS ARE ALIGNED ON THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO EXISTING COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THIS IS SORT OF THE FLATTER PORTION OF THE LOT.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THEN THE LOT, THE LOT SLOPES DOWN TOWARDS THE WESTERN PORTION.

THE PARKING LOT FOR THE PROJECT IS IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN WE HAVE A LARGER, OPEN SPACE AND RESOURCE PROTECTION AREA THAT ABUTS THAT ADJACENT, UNKNOWN FUTURE DEVELOPERS.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT PARKING.

THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 52 BEDROOMS WITHIN THE 40 UNITS PROPOSED FOR THE SITE.

THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 60 PARKING SPACES PROVIDED ON THE SITE PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PARKING CALCULATIONS PULLED FROM THE SITE PLAN THAT USING JUST ALL OF THE STANDARD CALCULATIONS, A TOTAL OF 71 PARKING SPACES WOULD BE REQUIRED.

THE APPLICANT HAS CHOSEN TO USE SEVERAL OF THE PARKING REDUCTIONS AND INCENTIVES ALLOWED IN THE ZONING CODE.

SOME FOR THE PROVISION OF MOTORCYCLE SPACES.

ANOTHER 10 PERCENT REDUCTION FOR BEING WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF A BUS STOP, AS WELL AS THE PROVISION OF ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES.

ALL OF THOSE INCENTIVES HAVE REDUCED THE TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING SPACES TO 60, WHICH IS WHAT IS PROVIDED ON SITE.

APOLOGIZE FOR THE COUGHING.

SO THESE ARE THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY ARE THREE STORY BUILDINGS.

THEY ARE USING THE APARTMENT BUILDING TYPE BECAUSE THIS IS IN THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE.

THEY DO NEED TO DO THIS AS A PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH REQUIRES THEM TO LOOK BACK TO AND REFLECT ON OUR TRANSECT ZONING STANDARDS.

THEY ARE USING THE T4 INTO ZONING STANDARDS AS WELL AS THE APARTMENT BUILDING TYPE.

YOU CAN SEE ALSO FROM HERE THAT THEY'RE USING COMPLIANT MATERIALS, COLORS AND AND ARTICULATION REQUIREMENTS.

SO LET'S DIG INTO THE FINDINGS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THE FIRST FINDING IS AS IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE OBJECTIVES OF THE ZONING CODE AND THE PURPOSE OF THE SPECIFIC ZONE.

SO THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE DOES TALK ABOUT HOUSING, BUT IT TALKS ABOUT HOUSING PRIMARILY AS PART OF A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

HOWEVER, THE USE PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS PERMITTED IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE, WHICH ALLOWS A 100 PERCENT RESIDENTIAL PROJECT NOT PART OF A MIXED USE WITH THE ISSUANCE OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THE RESIDENTIAL USES ARE ON THE SITE ARE NOT PROPOSED TO BE PART OF MIXED USE, BUT ARE ADJACENT TO OTHER MIXED USES, WHICH CREATES MORE OF A MIXED USE COMMUNITY.

RATHER THAN JUST HAVING MIXED USE ON THIS ONE SITE AND THE USES OUTLINED OR THAT PROPOSED ON THIS SITE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE WOODLANDS VILLAGE SPECIFIC PLAN, WHICH WAS THE SPECIFIC PLAN DEVELOPED WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY REZONED WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY BACK IN THE 90S AND SUBDIVIDED ACCORDINGLY.

SO FINDING TWO IS THE CONDITIONAL USE WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE.

STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THAT THERE'S NOT AN EXPECTATION THAT THIS APARTMENT STRUCTURE WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE.

IT SEEMS TO BE A SITE THAT REALLY SITS WELL FOR RESIDENTIAL.

AND AGAIN, IT SITS NEXT TO TWO EXISTING MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, ALSO WITHIN THE SAME ZONING CATEGORY.

THERE'S NO UNUSUAL VOLUME OR CHARACTER OF TRAFFIC EXPECTED.

THESE TWO BUILDINGS WITH THE 40 UNITS ARE WERE NOT ANTICIPATED, AND WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO PERFORM A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BECAUSE THE AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS WOULD NOT EXCEED THE REQUIREMENT FOR SUCH AN ANALYSIS.

FINDING THREE WILL DIG INTO ALL OF THESE DETAILS FOR ACCESS, TRAFFIC AND CIRCULATION, ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROVIDED FROM SOUTH PLAZA AWAY.

THERE IS PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ACCESS ACHIEVED THROUGH THE EXISTING STREET SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS SOUTH PLAZA, WHICH HAS BOTH SIDEWALKS AND BIKE LANES.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE, THOUGH, THAT SOUTH PLAZA WAY DOES NOT HAVE ANY ON STREET PARKING, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN DRAFTING THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE PERMIT, AND I'LL COVER IN A MINUTE.

LIKE I SAID PREVIOUSLY, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS NOT COMPLETED FOR THIS

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PROJECT BECAUSE THE PROPOSED DENSITY FALLS OUTSIDE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR IMPACT ANALYSIS.

IN TERMS OF ADEQUACY OF THE SITE, THE PROJECT HAS A PROPOSED DENSITY OF 23 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR 10 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND FALLS UNDER THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED DENSITY OF 29.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, 29 UNITS PER ACRE IS PERMITTED BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IS WITHIN AN ACTIVITY CENTER BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY.

NORMALLY, IT WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED 22 UNITS, BUT BECAUSE IT'S IN THAT ACTIVITY, CENTER IT AND IN ADDITION TO BEING IN THE RPO, IT GETS TO GO TO 29 UNITS PER ACRE.

THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THE PROPOSED BUILDING COMPLYING WITH ALL THE REQUIRED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OPTION, INCLUDING THE T4 IN TWO STANDARDS AND THE APARTMENT BUILDING TYPE.

THE SITE PROVIDES THE REQUIRED 15 PERCENT OPEN SPACE, WHICH ALSO OVERLAPS WITH THE RESOURCE PROTECTION.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AS STATED, IS IN THE RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY AND A RESOURCE PROTECTION PLAN HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND RESOURCES WILL BE MAINTAINED ON SITE.

SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE RESOURCE PROTECTION PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN AREA ARE THE SLOPES THAT ARE BEING PRESERVED, AS WELL AS THE TREE RESOURCE RESOURCES TO BE PRESERVED ON SITE BECAUSE THIS IS IN THE HIGHLY COMMERCIAL ZONE.

THEY ONLY NEED TO PRESERVE 30 PERCENT OF THOSE TREE RESOURCES.

SO IN IN THIS CASE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER TO DO THIS PROJECT AND A HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE.

RATHER, IF THEY WERE IN A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OR MEDIUM DENSITY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PRESERVE FAR MORE.

IN TERMS OF NOISE, LIGHT, VISUAL AND OTHER POLLUTANTS, IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL CREATE ANY NOISE, VISUAL OR OTHER POLLUTANTS OTHER THAN WHAT WE WOULD CURRENT WHAT WE WOULD GENERALLY EXPECT FROM ANY DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S NOTHING EXCESSIVE PROPOSED FOR THIS.

OF COURSE, THE OCCUPANTS DRIVE CARS THAT ADDS TO POLLUTANTS.

OF COURSE THERE'S LIGHT.

AND OF COURSE, NOISE IS ALWAYS FOUND WITH ANY PARTICULAR USE, BUT NOTHING IN EXCESS IS ANTICIPATED THAT WOULD CAUSE ALARM FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE PERMIT.

AND AGAIN, ALL OF THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF STRICT OUTDOOR LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS.

THE STYLE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLANNING DESIGN STANDARDS, WE DO HAVE A BUILDING FORWARD DESIGN.

THE PARKING IS LOCATED TO THE SIDE OR REAR OF THE STRUCTURE.

IN THIS CASE, IT'S LOCATED TO THE SIDE, AND THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS.

SO WE HAVE COLORS THAT ARE DARK.

WE HAVE A SIMPLE MATERIAL PALETTE, STONE WOOD, AND THEN THE SITE WILL BE LANDSCAPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING CODE.

PARKING AREAS ARE SCREENED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING CODE.

THIS IS THE LANDSCAPING PLAN.

I WISH IT WAS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, BUT THE LITTLE TINY PIECES OF PARKING AREA THAT ARE SHOWN HERE ARE ALSO SCREENED FROM THE STREET.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ON SITE, IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THOSE MATURE PONDEROSA TREES THAT WILL BE DISTURBED OR PRESERVED, NOT DISTURBED, SORRY PRESERVED ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

THOSE WILL DEFINITELY ADD TO THE SITE WHILE THAT REST OF THAT LANDSCAPING IS MATURING.

THE SITE CAN ADEQUATELY BE SERVED BY WATER AND SEWER, SO NO NEW OFFSITE SITE INFRASTRUCTURE IS REQUIRED.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, ANY NEW SITE SIGNAGE, WE DON'T REALLY EXPECT A LOT AND THESE SIGNAGE FOR APARTMENT COMPLEXES THERE IS VERY LIMITED.

IN GENERAL, IT'S NO MORE THAN SIX SQUARE FEET, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET A SEPARATE SIGN PERMIT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, ANY NEW LIGHTING WILL REQUIRE THE OUTDOOR LIGHTING PERMIT.

SO THERE'S NO FURTHER RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATIONS PROPOSED WITH THIS REQUEST.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE SIDEWALK CURRENTLY IS WITHIN AN EASEMENT LOCATED ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, SO AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN IS SEEN IN MOST SITUATIONS.

MOST OF THE TIME, THE SIDEWALK IS LOCATED WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

IN TERMS OF IMPACT ON RESOURCES, THERE'S NO IMPACTS, CULTURAL RESOURCES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AND THEN A RESOURCE PROTECTION PLAN HAS BEEN PREPARED AND DOES SHOW MAINTAINING THE REQUIRED TREE AND SLOPE RESOURCES ON THE SITE.

IN REGARDS TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, THE APPLICANT HELD ONE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING UTILIZING ZOOM ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 2021.

STAFF DID ATTEND THE PUBLIC MEETING.

THERE WAS ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO ATTENDED, AND THEY PRESENTED CONCERNS ABOUT OVERFLOW PARKING ONTO THEIR INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, AS WELL AS THE NEED FOR FENCING TO

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REDUCE THE POSSIBILITY OF TRESPASS.

SO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, IN LIGHT OF THAT PARTICULAR MEETING, DID WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD.

MEETING STAFF HAS RECEIVED ONE EMAIL ABOUT THIS PROJECT CONCERNING THE DENSITY PROPOSED AND IF THAT COULD BE INCREASED BY REQUEST AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO LET ME GO THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FINDINGS, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVE THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

THE FIRST IS OUR STANDARD THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMPLY WITH THE FORMS, WITH THE PLANS AS PRESENTED WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE SITE PLAN IS APPROVED BY OUR IDS STAFF ON MAY OF THIS YEAR.

ADDITIONALLY, A FENCE BE PROVIDED ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, AS WAS REQUESTED BY THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

THAT ALSO AVOIDS ANY TREE RESOURCES OR SLOPE RESOURCES.

A DETAILED PLAN FOR THIS FENCE SHALL BE PROVIDED IN CONJUNCTION WITH CIVIL PLANS FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND LASTLY, THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL PARTICIPATE IN THE BULK PASS PROGRAM WITH MOUNTAIN LINE TO PROVIDE BUS PASSES TO RESIDENTS FOR A TERM OF FIVE YEARS AFTER THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OF THE PROJECT.

AND THE REASON THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THIS CONDITION IS TWOFOLD.

ONE, BECAUSE OF THE INCENTIVES THAT ARE BEING TAKEN TO REDUCE THE ONSITE PARKING UP TO 11 SPACES AND THAT 10 PERCENT TRANSIT REDUCTION, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE CONCERNS PRESENTED FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.

THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE OVERFLOW PARKING AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO ADJACENT ON STREET PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THINGS LIKE VISITORS TO THE SITE.

SO WITH THAT, IF YOU SHOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER THEM.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER MANDINO? I'M NOT SURE TO ASK THIS QUESTION NOW OR AFTER THE PRESENTATION, BUT I'VE JUST BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO ATTENDED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

I JUST.

I CAN'T FIND USUAL NOTES THAT I SEE, SO.

UM.

I APOLOGIZE, COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

LET ME SHOW YOU ON THE MAP REALLY QUICK.

THE I DON'T HAVE HIS NAME ON THE TIP OF MY TONGUE AND CHARITY WILL PROBABLY HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT LET ME JUST SHOW YOU REALLY QUICK ON THE MAP.

THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT ATTENDED, THAT'S THE BRUCE, AND HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT ATTENDED IS, YES, I'VE SEEN WHAT HIS CONCERN WAS, BUT I WASN'T SURE WHO ATTENDED OR IF HE WAS THE ONLY PERSON WHO ATTENDED THAT MEETING.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE MY MOUSE ON THE SCREEN.

HE OWNS THIS PROPERTY HERE.

OK? AND THAT PROPERTY CURRENTLY IS UNDEVELOPED.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO.

IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH AN INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.

SO WHAT WHAT IS IN WITHIN THAT? THERE'S A MIX OF USES I HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE COMPLEX IN SOME TIME, IT'S IT'S DEFINITELY GOT SOME OFFICE SPACE IN IT.

INDUSTRIAL USES CAN INCLUDE WAREHOUSING.

I DON'T HAVE I DON'T HAVE A LIST OF WHAT'S ALL IN THIS AREA.

OK, THANK YOU.

AND HE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO ATTENDED THE THE PUBLIC MEETING.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OK, THANK YOU.

SORRY, JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, HE ALSO OWNS THE UNDEVELOPED PARCEL THAT IMMEDIATELY ABUTS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, CORRECT? I BELIEVE THAT IS THE CASE AS WELL.

AND AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE PROPERTY.

RIGHT THERE.

OK, THANK YOU.

OK, IF THERE ARE, LET'S SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS.

AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT, AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL.

I'M SORRY, I WAS GETTING LATE FOR ME.

I MISSED IT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

YES, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

WHOOPS, YOUR MUTED.

YOU ARE YOU ARE MUTED.

OK.

COMMISSIONERS, HELLO, MY NAME IS CHARITY LEE, AND I AM THE LAND ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH MIRAMONTE HOMES.

AND YOU ARE CORRECT IT IS GETTING LATE AND I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT TRUTHFULLY, MOST OF MY PRESENTATION IS MORE OF A RECAP OF WHAT TIFFANY JUST PRESENTED.

I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THAT AT YOUR OPTION, OR WE CAN GO THROUGH YOUR QUESTIONS IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

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WOULD ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO SEE THE PRESENTATION OR WOULD YOU JUST LIKE TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER NOLAN, THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR.

HI CHARITY.

MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE RUNNING THEME THAT I'VE BEEN APPROACHING A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS WITH, WHICH IS WASTE AND DESIGN AND WASTE.

I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE OUR CITY CODES ARE AND I KNOW WHERE OUR STANDARDS ARE.

BUT EVEN WITHIN OUR OWN REPORTING, IT'S CLEAR THAT WE ARE NOT HANDLING WASTE.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAVE TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IN THE DESIGN TO POTENTIALLY SET MORE SPACE ASIDE TO WORK WITH THE CITY OR IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN INCORPORATE LATER DOWN THE LINE IN THE PROCESS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.

SO OUR SITE PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED, SO AT THIS TIME, WE WOULDN'T BE INTERESTED IN REDESIGNING THE PROJECT.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT PART OF THE PROJECT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED MATERIALS MANAGEMENT PLAN AND WHAT WE INTEND TO DO IS USE THIS AS AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

AND SO WHEN THEY WHEN THEY SIGN A LEASE AGREEMENT, THEY'LL BE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL MATERIALS.

AND WE'RE WE'RE WILLING TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT.

IF THEY HAVE MATERIALS TO PROVIDE THEM, WE'LL ISSUE THOSE.

IF NOT, WE'LL CERTAINLY OBTAIN AND PROVIDE OUR OWN MATERIALS ON WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE RECYCLED.

ADDITIONALLY, WILL INSTALL SIGNAGE ON THE TRASH BINS WILL HAVE TO DUMPSTERS, SO THERE WILL BE DUAL DUMPSTERS, A SIX YARD DUMPSTER FOR TRASH AND ONE SIX YARD DUMPSTER FOR RECYCLING.

SO WE'LL INSTALL SIGNAGE SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE RECYCLED.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION WHEN IT COMES TO RECYCLING.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE PUT GLASS IN THE CONTAINERS THAT CAN'T BE RECYCLED, SO WE WANT TO HELP TO EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS.

AND THEN ALSO WE'LL PROVIDE INFORMATION ON ADDITIONAL WAYS THAT THEY CAN LEARN AND BE A PART OF WAYS TO RECYCLE BY CONTACTING THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE DOING AND IMPLEMENTING IN OUR MATERIALS MANAGEMENT PLAN.

AS FAR AS THE MANAGEMENT OF THE RENTAL UNITS ITSELF.

OK, I APPRECIATE IT, AND IF THE SITE PLAN IS ALREADY APPROVED, THEN THE CONFLICT THAT I HAVE IS THAT I BELIEVE IT'S FINDING TO BEING DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC WELFARE, AND IT'S ONLY BECAUSE WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A WAY TO RECYCLE RECYCLABLES YET, AND WE'RE PILOTING COMPOSTING EFFORTS AND WE'RE PILOTING SOME OTHER PROGRAMS LOCALLY IN FLAGSTAFF.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE RESULTS ON EXACTLY WHAT'S EFFECTIVE YET.

SO MY CONCERN IS JUST BY THE BARE MINIMUM BEING MET AND BY BARE MINIMUM.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU'RE NOT PUTTING FORTH THE EFFORTS THAT YOU JUST SAID, BUT THAT'S STILL THE BARE MINIMUM COMPARED TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT AND IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE IT IS WHAT IT IS.

SO.

THANK YOU.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO COMMENT, WE, MIRAMONTE IS IS HAPPY TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THAT ARE IMPOSED.

THERE IS A CONCERN WE HAVE, THOUGH, AS FAR AS THE FIVE YEARS, THE FIVE YEARS FOR PROVIDING BUS PASSES.

I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH MOUNTAIN LINE AND IT WILL COST OUR PROJECT APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE LESS THAN $2000 A YEAR TO PROVIDE THE BUS PASSES.

SO OVER FIVE YEARS, THAT'S EIGHTY SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS.

NOW WE'RE WILLING TO PAY THAT AMOUNT.

BUT WHAT WE WOULD PREFER TO DO AND WE WOULD PREFER FOR COMMISSIONERS TO CONSIDER IS TO COMMIT TO TWO YEARS WITH AN OPTION TO EXTEND BECAUSE WE'LL RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM MOUNTAIN LINE ON THE USAGE ON WHO'S ACTUALLY WHAT THE RIDERSHIP IS.

AND IF, LET'S SAY THERE'S ONLY A PERCENTAGE, THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PROVIDE A PASS FOR EVERY BEDROOM, WHICH IS 52.

NOW, LET'S SAY THAT ONLY A FRACTION OF THE THE RESIDENTS ACTUALLY USE THE PASSES.

WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO JUST THROW AWAY MONEY.

WE WOULD RATHER USE THAT MONEY FOR OTHER THINGS, OTHER PROJECTS IN FLAGSTAFF.

AND SO WHAT I PROPOSE IS THAT WE WOULD DO A TWO YEAR COMMITMENT WITH THE OPTION TO EXTEND IF WE SEE THAT THE PROGRAM IS BEING USED IN SUCCESSFUL AND OF COURSE, WITH OUR PROPERTY MANAGER WITH OUR RENTAL MANAGER WILL BE ENCOURAGING THE USAGE OF THAT TO HELP PROMOTE THE BUS PASSES.

BUT THAT WAS ONE THING I WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSIONERS TO CONSIDER AMENDING.

[02:50:10]

COMMISSIONER PAUL, JUST ONE QUESTION ON THAT PROPOSAL, WHAT WOULD BE THE I GUESS IS THERE AN AGREED UPON THRESHOLD FOR WHAT WOULD CONSTITUTE SUCCESSFUL USE OF THE BUS PASSES? YEAH, SO I WAS LOOKING AT THAT TODAY.

A 30 DAY PASS IS FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR, SO I BELIEVE.

LET'S SEE WHAT WAS IT.

I THINK WE NEEDED AT LEAST 12, WHICH I IMAGINE WE WOULD GET, BUT YOU JUST NEVER KNOW.

WE WOULD NEED AT LEAST 12 RIDERS, I BELIEVE FOR THAT TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD CERTAINLY MARKET THIS AS SOMETHING AS A BENEFIT TO OUR RESIDENTS.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE COMMITTED TO SOMETHING IF PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO USE IT.

SORRY, TRYING TO UNMUTE, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

MY QUESTION ABOUT THE BUS PASSES.

ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU? I MEAN, YOU HAVE I'M SUSPECTING THAT THE RENT THE LEASEES WILL TURN OVER QUITE FREQUENTLY, AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A TWO YEAR PERIOD OF LOOKING AT THAT, BUT IS THAT ENOUGH TIME TO SEE? HOW HOW THAT USAGE WILL BE? WELL, SO OUR WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO DO SHORT TERM RENTALS ON THIS PROJECT.

OUR LEASES WOULD BE NO LESS THAN 30 DAYS.

AND SO I THINK IT WOULD GIVE US SOME TIME AS TALKING WITH MOUNTAIN LINE, THEY WOULD PROVIDE BIANNUAL REPORTS TO US.

SO WE SHOULD HAVE AN IDEA OF WHO'S USING THE PASSES.

YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO DO MORE OUTREACH TO INCREASE THE USAGE.

SO I THINK WE'LL HAVE A BETTER INDICATION AFTER TWO YEARS.

AND MOST PEOPLE, I WOULD SAY ON A TYPICAL RENTAL BASIS WOULD PROBABLY BE A YEAR.

AND AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON HOW THAT GOES WITH OUR LEASES ON HOW OFTEN THEY TURN OVER FROM A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULDN'T WANT OUR LEASES TO TURN OVER THAT MUCH BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT A SHORT TERM RENTAL PROJECT, BUT I THINK THE TIME WILL TELL AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME TO KIND OF EVALUATE THE PROGRAM.

WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROGRAM, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO COMMIT WITHOUT KNOWING DATA WELL, WITHOUT HAVING THE DATA TO A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

SO I WOULD HAVE THE GENERAL ASSUMPTION THAT MOST OF YOUR RENTERS WILL BE STUDENTS.

UM.

AND THAT THEY'LL BE GOING TO NAU.

WILL YOU ALSO BE DOING A SURVEY TO SEE IF THEY'RE WALKING OR RIDING THEIR BIKES? I MEAN, THAT MIGHT BE A A AS THE ALTERNATIVE TO THE BUS RIDERSHIP.

ALSO DOING THAT SURVEY TO FIND OUT IF THEY'RE RIDING THEIR BIKE OR WALKING, BECAUSE THAT ALSO WILL REDUCE TRANSPORTATION USAGE.

AND I THINK WHERE IT'S LOCATED, THERE'S ADEQUATE SHOPPING.

GROCERY SHOPPING.

OTHER TYPES OF SHOPPING, RESTAURANTS, FAST FOOD CHAINS TO GO TO.

SO I'M WONDERING IF IF THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR PROCESS AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

THAT THERE COULD BE ALTERNATE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAVEL, BUT THROUGH WALKING AND BIKING, WHICH WE ALL WOULD SUPPORT.

SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY IMPORTANT THING TO ANALYZE AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD TO THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I THINK THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK I MISSPOKE EARLIER.

I'M SORRY, IT'S LATE.

I BELIEVE IT WAS.

I THINK THE BREAK EVEN WAS MAYBE FOUR, MAYBE FOUR PEOPLE THAT WOULD NEED THE PASSES, SO I THINK I SAID 12 AND I MIGHT BE WRONG WITH MY MATH.

FORGIVE ME, IT'S LATE.

SO I THINK IT WAS ABOUT FOUR, ACTUALLY FOR THAT.

SO RECAP THAT THE BREAK EVEN.

[02:55:08]

HOW MANY HOW MANY PASSES ARE STAFF SUGGESTING AND HOW MANY ARE YOU SUGGESTING? I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED NOW, SO I APOLOGIZE.

SO WE WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE 52, WHICH IS ONE PER BEDROOM, AND THAT WOULD CAUSE MIRAMONTE ONE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED FORTY TWO DOLLARS A YEAR AND EIGHTY SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR OR FOR FIVE YEARS.

SO I THINK FOR US TO BREAK, EVEN BECAUSE THEY'RE FOR THE 30 DAY PASS, IS $400 APPROXIMATELY PER YEAR.

WE WOULD NEED A LEASE FOR FOUR RIDERS, WHICH I WOULD ASSUME WE WOULD HAVE.

AND AGAIN, I SAY THAT WE WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE TO EXTEND.

THE PROJECT IS NOT SAYING THAT WE WON'T.

WE JUST WANT TO HAVE THE THE DATA TO PROVE THAT IT'S SUCCESSFUL FIRST.

THANK YOU.

OK, THANK YOU.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS.

SO NOW I'LL ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND DON'T SEE ANY OF THOSE, EITHER.

SO DO WE I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WANT TO TAKE THE APPLICANT UP ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ONE CONDITION, THE FOUR BUS PASSES THAT THAT COULD BE MADE WITH THE MOTION.

AND I'M WONDERING IF SOMEBODY IS READY TO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

YEAH.

CAN I ASK STAFF HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS, IS THAT APPROPRIATE? HI.

SURE.

SURE.

OK.

YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE REALITY ON MY END IS I HAVE NOTHING TO TRIGGER ME IN TWO YEARS.

I MEAN, ONCE THIS PROJECT IS BUILT AND UP RUNNING, I HAVE NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE ME CHECK IN WITH THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO SEE IF FOUR PEOPLE ARE RIDING THE BUS.

BUT WHAT A SCREAMING DEAL, THOUGH, TO GET TO GET 52 BUS PASSES FOR BASICALLY WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE COST OF FOUR.

SO THAT'S I MEAN THAT.

AND MY ONLY CONCERN REALLY AND THE ONLY REASON FOR PUSHING ON THIS IS ONE BECAUSE WE ARE NEAR THE TRANSIT NETWORK AND THAT THERE REALLY ISN'T.

THIS IS A LOCATION WHERE THERE'S NOT ON STREET PARKING, AND THEY'RE TAKING THE TRANSIT INCENTIVE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER PAUL.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN TO WANT TO BE, TO NOT THROW MONEY AWAY.

BUT WITH THAT SAID, THE LEVEL OF FINANCIAL COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE BEING $8700 OVER FIVE YEARS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE PROJECT SEEMS LIKE, I MEAN, DOES IT SEEM LIKE IS ALMOST A ROUNDING ERROR? THE FLIP SIDE OF IT BEING THE POTENTIAL THAT IT ACTUALLY DOES GIVE PEOPLE A LOT OF GOOD REASONS TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE KEEP THE CONDITIONS AS STATED IN THE REPORT.

IF OTHERS FEEL STRONGLY, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO SAY THIS ISN'T LIKE A MAKE OR BREAK IT FOR ME, BUT THAT'S KIND OF MY POSITION.

I WILL I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER PAUL AS WELL.

I ALSO TEND TO AGREE WITH THAT, I DO APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST GREAT TO BE ABLE TO.

I THINK IT IS AN ENCOURAGEMENT TO PEOPLE TO USE PUBLIC TRANSIT TO OFFER THEM PASSES.

SO I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH THAT.

I'M ALSO READY TO MAKE A MOTION.

THAT FOR PZ20-00100-003, THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FINDINGS AND ACCORDING TO THE CONDITION STAFF, RECOMMENDS THAT WE APPROVE THE CUP FOR THE PLAZA WAY CONDOS.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER PAUL, I'LL SECOND.

THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THEN PLEASE SIGNIFY YOUR WITH AN AYE IF YOU IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS

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MOTION.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NO.

AND THE MOTION DOES PASS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, APPRECIATE IT.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND JUST LEAVES ANY

[6. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS TO/FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS]

MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS TO OR FROM COMMISSION.

DO WE HAVE ANY FROM STAFF? NO, NOT AT THIS POINT, THANKS.

THANK YOU, I HAVE I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE STATUS OF MEETING IN PERSON VERSUS MEETING ONLINE FOR THE COMMISSIONS, IF THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AND IN LINE WITH THAT, I KIND OF WONDERED, SOMETIMES IT BUGS ME THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE KIND OF THESE DISEMBODIED VOICES THAT NOBODY SEES.

AND I REALIZED WE COULD PROBABLY JUST TURN ON OUR CAMERAS IF WE WANT TO WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING.

BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, WOULD THE COMMISSIONERS, HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT ? I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE COMMISSIONERS, AND YOU COULD CERTAINLY TURN ON YOUR CAMERAS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING.

WE TEND TO NOT TURN ON OUR CAMERAS UNLESS WE'RE TALKING JUST TO TRY AND SAVE BANDWIDTH AND SOMETIMES THINGS GET LAGGY AND WHATNOT.

MY UNDERSTANDING THE DIRECTION THAT I'VE BEEN GIVEN TO DATE IS THAT COMMISSION SHOULD STILL BE MEETING VIRTUALLY.

WE MAY GET A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

MAYBE IN THE NEW YEAR, WE'LL SEE.

SO CAMERA, NO CAMERA, I GUESS, IS THE ISSUE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO MEET IN PERSON AT THIS POINT.

WAS THERE TALK AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING ABOUT HAVING SOME TYPE OF A GATHERING OR IS THAT NOT ALLOWABLE AS WELL? THERE WAS CONVERSATION OF A POTENTIAL HOLIDAY PARTY.

I'M JUST REALLY BAD AT ORGANIZING THOSE THINGS, BUT I WILL.

I'LL KEEP WORKING ON IT.

AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE, LIKE I'VE SAID, I HAVEN'T MET COMMISSIONER PAUL COULD WALK RIGHT PAST ME.

I COULD TRIP OVER HIM AND NOT KNOW WHO HE WAS.

I HAVEN'T MET HIM IN PERSON.

I THINK I'VE MET MOST OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS IN PERSON.

BUT IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO YOU KNOW, NO, OUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

AGREE.

I'M SORRY, WHAT DID YOU SAY, LLOYD? OH, I JUST SAID LIKEWISE.

YEAH, THEY'RE IN IN THE ATTEMPT TO HELP ALEX, BUT TO BE VERY QUICKLY SO THAT WE CAN LEAVE.

IS THERE A DAY THAT ABSOLUTELY DOESN'T WORK FOR ANYONE? I'LL BE VISITING FAMILY IN CALIFORNIA FOR CHRISTMAS, SO I'LL BE BACK IN FLAGSTAFF ON DECEMBER 29TH.

YOU'RE GONE FROM HERE UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR.

YEAH.

ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU.

I THINK FOR ME, IT WOULD JUST DEPEND ON THE TIME AND DATE, SO THERE'S YOU KNOW.

I'LL TRY AND SEND OUT SOMETHING TO EVERYONE, AND IT MAY TURN INTO KIND OF A NEW YEAR.

YOU KNOW, 2022 MEETING.

YES, TIFFANY'S BIRTHDAY PARTY KIND OF THING.

SOUNDS GOOD SOMETHING.

YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

2022 IS PROBABLY EASIER FOR ME AS WELL.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

OK.

SO I THINK THAT'S IT, WE CAN ADJOURN, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH AND FOR THANK YOU FOR REALLY GOOD COMMENTS AND CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD MEETING.

THANK YOU.

THANKS, STEPH AND EVERYONE.

THANKS.

GOOD NIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.