[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the Heritage Preservation Commission and to the general public that, at this regular meeting, the Heritage Preservation Commission may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]
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CALL THIS WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 15TH MEETING OF THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF TO ORDER AT FOUR P.M.
ON THE DOT AND WE WILL TAKE ROLL CALL.
[INAUDIBLE] CAN YOU DO A SOUND CHECK? HELLO, EVERYBODY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. THANKS, MARK.
OK, WE'LL MOVE ON TO A PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
WE DO NOT. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS REGULAR
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Approve the minutes of the Heritage Preservation Commission Regular Meeting held November 17, 2021.]
MEETING IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A.I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION FOR NOVEMBER 17TH, 2021.
I'LL SECOND. THAT WAS A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER DALE AND WHO IS THE SECOND ? SORRY, THAT WAS CAITLIN.
OH HEY, CAITLIN. THERE YOU GO, YOU GOT TO CHANGE YOUR LETTERS ON THERE, SO.
AND THAT SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER KELLY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO A PUBLIC HEARING.
[A. Phase 1 Cultural Resource Study & Mitigation for 302 W Oak St Mortuary; Woodshire on Oak PROPERTY INFORMATION: Address: 302 W Oak St Mortuary Assessor's Parcel Number: 11006036E Property Owner: Brookfield Communities Applicant: Philip V Petersen, Brookfield Communities City Staff: Mark Reavis Heritage Preservation Officer REQUESTED ACTION: This is a request by the applicant for review and acceptance of a Phase 1 Cultural Resource Study with mitigation prepared by Envirosystems. RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve with condition the submitted Cultural Resource Study as a Phase 1 Study meeting minimum submission requirements that includes mitigation with finalized mitigation monitored for compliance by the HPO.]
THIS IS ITEM FIVE A, WHICH IS FOR A PHASE ONE CULTURAL RESOURCE STUDY AND MITIGATION FOR 302 WEST OAK STREET MORTUARY, KNOWN AS THE WOOD SHIRE ON OAK.AND MARK, IF YOU'D LIKE TO KICK US OFF.
YEAH, I'LL JUST THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'LL JUST INTRODUCE IT AS IT IS A UNIQUE FACILITY BECAUSE THE HISTORY RUNS FROM IT BEING NOT AT THIS LOCATION, BUT AS BEING THE FIRST MORTUARY SERVICE IN FLAGSTAFF FOLLOWING ITS WAY UP THROUGH A LONG PERIOD OF HISTORY.
CERTAINLY HAS THAT FLAGSTAFF FEELING ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER THAT'S THERE.
THE UNIQUE SITUATION THAT HAPPENED THAT REQUIRED SOME BACK AND FORTH COMMUNICATION WAS THE FACT THAT THE ASBESTOS ABATEMENT TOOK PLACE, WHICH REMOVED THE WINDOWS, WHICH WAS A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT EFFECT UPON THE PROPERTY, AND THAT IN THAT CASE, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO A COMPLETE PHASE TWO [INAUDIBLE] OF THE PROPERTY, AND WE HAD TO SHIFT TO A PHASE ONE CULTURAL RESOURCE STUDY THAT INCLUDED MITIGATION.
THAT'S REALLY IF YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE REPORT, MY STAFF REPORT.
IT COVERS COMMUNICATION, SOME OF THE ISSUES, SOME OF THE COMPLEXITIES.
I COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS PRIOR TO HANDING IT OVER TO THE CONSULTANTS IF THEY WANT TO HAVE ANY COMMENT AND THEN I CAN DO A RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU, MARK. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, THOUGH, IS LEGAL ON THE LINE? TODAY. I HAVE NOT SEEN CHRISTINA JOIN THE MEETING.
DO YOU WANT ME TO SEE IF? I JUST I WANT TO KNOW I HAD.
I DON'T THINK I HAVEN'T GOT AS FAR AS MAKING AN OFFER, BUT I HAD INVESTIGATED PURCHASING THIS PROPERTY MYSELF FOR MY BUSINESS, AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHETHER THAT MEANT I SHOULD RECUSE MYSELF FROM THE DISCUSSION AND DECISION MAKING.
IF THEY'RE NOT HERE, MAYBE WE JUST SAY BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY.
I THINK THAT THAT IS UP TO YOU.
I THINK THAT WE COULD ALSO TAKE A BREAK AND ASK.
I COULD GIVE CHRISTINE A CALL IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE A PAUSE.
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DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT, I MEAN, IF WE JUST IF I JUST RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM, THEN IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, THEN WE'RE WE'RE ERRING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION AND WE CAN CONTINUE.THE WHO'S WHO IS VICE CHAIR AGAIN, EMILY? EMILY IS YES.
EMILY, ARE YOU READY FOR PRIME TIME? ARE WE STILL GOING TO HAVE A QUORUM IF HE RECUSES HIMSELF? YES, WE STILL HAVE FIVE, AND THAT'S STILL A QUORUM.
SURE, I CAN. I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.
SO I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF IN THIS ITEM, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, JUST TO BE BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY. SO EMILY IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE OVER THE REINS.
YES, THAT'S FINE, I JUST COULDN'T FIND THAT UNMUTE BUTTON.
SO YOU'RE IN GOOD HANDS, APPARENTLY.
ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MARK? I HAD ONE WHEN IS THE WHEN WAS THE ASBESTOS ABATEMENT AND THE WINDOWS ALL REMOVED? I'VE NOT QUITE TARGETED WHEN THAT TOOK PLACE.
THE COMPLEXITY WAS THAT THE HOSPITAL WAS IN CHARGE AND THEY PROCEEDED SOMETIME THIS YEAR WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE WINDOWS.
THERE WERE MULTIPLE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE PROPERTY AND THEN THE PROPERTY WAS TRANSFERRED DURING THE MIDDLE OF OF SOME OF THIS DISCUSSION ON THE CULTURAL RESOURCE SURVEY. SO IT GOT TRANSFERRED ALONG THE WAY, AND THAT ALSO CAUSED A FEW ISSUES, BUT.
IT HAD BEEN REVIEWED SEVERAL TIMES WITHIN INTERNALLY AND STAFF AND THE WINDOWS WERE INTACT, AND THEN THE ABATEMENT TOOK PLACE.
AND AGAIN, WE DON'T ISSUE A PERMIT, IT'S A STATE PERMIT PROCESS FOR ASBESTOS ABATEMENT.
SO THAT KIND OF ADDED TO THE CONFUSION, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A NEED FOR THE HOSPITAL TO COMPLY WITH OUR HERITAGE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS.
SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE GAPS THAT TOOK PLACE.
THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, CORRECT? I DID NOT PREPARE A FORMAL PRESENTATION BY ANY MEANS.
THEN WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
SAYING I DID NOT PREPARE A FORMAL PRESENTATION, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A HISTORIC BUILDING AND OBVIOUSLY HAS LOCAL SIGNIFICANCE AND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW,YES? JUST FOR A SECOND. COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOUR NAME, COMPANY AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, FOR THE RECORD? SURE.
I'M VICE PRESIDENT AND CULTURAL RESOURCES DIVISION DIRECTOR WITH ENVIROSYSTEMS MANAGEMENT, AND WE ARE LOCATED LOCATED AT 23 EAST FINE AVENUE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.
THANK YOU. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY THE BUILDING IS LOCALLY SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, IN THE SENSE THAT THERE ARE SOME ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS AND MOST OF THE BODIES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DECEASED, YOU KNOW, DIED IN FLAGSTAFF WENT THERE.
YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING THIS PROJECT AND THE BUILDING HAVE OBVIOUSLY HAD MANY PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, OVER THE COURSE OF THE HISTORY, THERE WAS A LOT OF ADDITIONS REMODELING AND, YOU KNOW, AMONG HAZARDOUS ISSUES LIKE ASBESTOS, AMONG OTHER THINGS.
SO YEAH, THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGING AND CONFUSING PROJECT FOR SOME OF THESE ISSUES. BUT YEAH, I REALLY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD TO IT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, HAS THE [INAUDIBLE], BUT THE BUILDING IS WAS IN PRETTY ROUGH SHAPE. I ACTUALLY LIVED JUST NORTH OF THERE FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
I BELIEVE THE WINDOWS WERE TAKEN OUT AROUND MAY, MAYBE OF THIS YEAR.
AND YEAH, IT'S IT'S PRETTY ROUGH.
SO I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO COME TO SOME RESOLUTION WITH THE MITIGATION BEING THE REPURPOSING OF THE SALT.
PERSONALLY, I'M A FAN OF ADAPTIVE REUSE.
I THINK THAT'S GREAT WHEN THAT CAN HAPPEN.
BUT I THINK THIS WAS BEYOND THE POINT OF SALVAGE.
GIVEN ITS CURRENT CONDITION, IT SEEMS LIKE IT DID.
THERE HAD BEEN QUITE A BIT OF NEGLECT ON THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT, BUT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, THANKS, DAVID.
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ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION? FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN, OR YOU CAN NOTE IT IN THE CHAT.NOT THE QUESTION, BUT THAT YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
I HAVE A QUESTION, VICE COMMISSIONER OR CHAIR, CHAIRWOMAN DALE BOARD, DAVE DAVE, WHEN DOES IT SEEM LIKE THE STOP BEING USED? LIKE YOU SAID, THE PICTURES SHOW IT IN A PRETTY GOOD STATE OF DISREPAIR.
OBVIOUSLY, THE ASBESTOS HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT, THE WINDOWS HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
BUT WHAT WHEN DID IT STOP BEING A MORTUARY? OH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
YEAH, I SHOULD SAY IT WAS ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT WAS IN USE UP THROUGH THE LATE 80S.
YEAH, IT CONTINUE TO BE USED, I THINK, UNTIL THE 90S.
AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT THE LIKE MAYBE THE LATE NINETIES IS WHEN IT WAS NO LONGER SERVING AS A MORTUARY.
OK, THANKS. SEEM TO BE FUNCTIONING AS A RESIDENCE FOR A WHILE, THERE WERE SOME SMALL APARTMENTS UPSTAIRS THAT LOOKED LIKE THEY'D BEEN MORE RECENTLY INHABITED.
BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE WHEN THOSE WERE WHEN THERE WAS ANYONE IN THERE.
AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S CHRIS POPULUS, HE'S A PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR WITH ENVIROSYSTEMS AS WELL. BEYOND THE ASBESTOS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER HAZARDOUS CONCERNS WITH THIS BUILDING? JUST HAVING SERVED AS A MORTUARY, ARE THERE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS AS WELL? I WOULD EXPECT THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY DETAILED RECORD OF THAT, I KNOW THERE WAS A LIKE A PHASE ONE REPORT THAT [INAUDIBLE] DID, AND I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE DETAILS. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S I'M SURE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME TOXIC CHEMICALS IN THE SOIL UNDERNEATH, AMONG OTHER THINGS.
RIGHT? ASBESTOS, LEAD PAINT, YOU KNOW, THE STANDARD ISSUE.
AND GIVEN STRUCTURALLY, THERE'S SOME DANGER TOO LIKE THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING IS DEFINITELY NOT SAFE.
PARTS OF THE FLOOR ARE MISSING AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND THAT REPORT IS APPENDIX A.
OH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARK.
AND THIS GUILLERMO CORTEZ OF SWI ENGINEERING 110 WEST DALE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, SERVING AS A CIVIL ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TO BROOKFIELD COMMUNITIES.
I IF I CAN ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT, I THINK THEY WERE SAYING THAT OVERALL IT LOOKED LIKE THE FLOOR. THE CONCRETE FLOOR WAS PRETTY WELL INTACT, SO THEY DIDN'T EXPECT THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF CHEMICALS THAT WOULD HAVE SEEPED INTO.
BUT AT THE TIME OF REMOVAL, MAYBE TAKING A LOOK AT THE SEWER CONNECTION, THE SEWER LINE, SEE THAT IF THEY HAD BEEN ERODED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IS, I THINK, THE ONLY RECOMMENDATION I REMEMBER READING.
DAVE, CHRIS AND MARK, YOU GUYS TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE RE-USE OF THE STONE, HOW THAT CAME ABOUT, WHAT YOU'RE ENVISIONING.
YEAH. MADAM CHAIRMAN, IT WAS JUST SOME LEVEL OF MITIGATION THAT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT.
MITIGATION HAD TO BE DONE, WE TALKED IT THROUGH THERE ARE LOTS OF ALTERNATIVES.
BUT THIS SEEMED LIKE THE APPROPRIATE ONE, SO THE CONCEPT BEING PRESENTED THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET IS THAT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THAT STONE IS SALVAGED AND BECOMES A FRONTAGE FEATURE.
AND WHAT THOSE SPECIFICS ARE, THEY THREW A CONCEPT OUT, WHICH SEEMS APPROPRIATE, BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH LIMITED TO SOMETHING AT THE FRONT AND THAT IN THE MOTION THAT I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT I MONITOR THAT, THAT IT TAKES PLACE.
GREAT, THANKS. AND JUST TO ADD.
I HAD ALWAYS WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS COMING UP FOR SALE.
I HAD ALWAYS INDICATED BECAUSE OF ITS LONG ESTABLISHED HISTORY AND ITS ARCHITECTURE, I'D ALWAYS SAID THAT THIS IS A PHASE TWO CULTURAL RESOURCE STUDY THAT WAS REQUIRED AND THEN WHEN THE WINDOWS CAME OUT, THAT WAS NO LONGER POSSIBLE.
SO IF THIS MAKES SENSE THAT IT'S A FAIRLY EXTENSIVE REPORT.
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THAT INCLUDES ADDITIONAL PHOTOS, IT DOESN'T HAVE A FULL SET OF PLANS.BUT THE REPORT IS PHASE ONE WITH MITIGATION.
I GUESS I DID ABOUT THE RE-USE OF THE STONE, IT SEEMS. IS IT? IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET MORE SPECIFIC SPECIFICS ABOUT HOW MUCH OF THAT STONE WILL BE REUSED? YOU KNOW, IF IT'S. YOU KNOW, ONE PERCENT, 20 PERCENT, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING, IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET IT MORE? [INAUDIBLE] DID WE, MADAM CHAIRMAN, WERE YOU ABLE TO OPEN THAT CONCEPT? OF THEY HAVE AN ARCHWAY AND SOME STONES.
I DID, YEAH, AND I WAS WONDERING WHAT HOW, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THAT MUCH OF THE PREVIOUS BUILDING.
RIGHT. IT'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT.
AND AGAIN, THAT WAS TALKED THROUGH THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH WAS ABLE TO BE CLEANED AND UTILIZED TO THAT EXTENT.
AND AGAIN, THAT'LL BE IF YOU'RE OK WITH MY RECOMMENDED MOTION THAT I MONITOR THAT PRODUCTION OF THAT FEATURE IN THE FRONT AND THEN IT MEETS THAT KIND OF CONCEPT THAT THEY SHOWED WHETHER EXACTLY LOOKS LIKE THAT.
BUT I WOULD SAY THE PERCENTAGE OF MATERIALS IS PROBABLY WHAT'S BEEN SHOWN THERE.
OK. MARCUS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME BACK TO US OR ARE YOU COMFORTABLE APPROVING THAT ON YOUR OWN? I'M TAKING IT ON MY OWN IF THAT'S OK.
AND THIS GUILLERMO CORTEZ, AGAIN, THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO USE AS MUCH OF IT AS POSSIBLE, IT'LL BE JUST ONE OF THOSE OF ONCE WE STRIP IT ALL OFF OF THERE.
HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE? WHAT DO WE HAVE LEFT? WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING CODE AND MAKE SURE ARCHITECTURALLY WERE ALL GOOD MEETING THEIR CODE.
BUT THE IDEA IS THIS IS A BUNGALOW STYLE DEVELOPMENT PER T4N2.
I THINK IT IS OR SO IN THE CODE.
SO THE IDEA IS TO HAVE KIND OF THAT.
FEATURE THAT MELROSE PLACE FEELING, I GUESS, OF OF THE COURTYARD ALL ALONG, THAT THE FRONTS OF THESE UNITS, SO THE ENTRY MONUMENT'S IMPORTANT TO BROOKFIELD AND SO IS THAT WHOLE STREET FRONTAGE.
SO WE WILL TRY TO USE AS MUCH OF IT AS WE CAN.
MADAM CHAIR, WE DID WE DID TALK ABOUT ALONG THE WAY ARCHITECTURE AND FITTING IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I DO THINK THE BUNGALOW CONCEPT IS THE AREA OF THE HOSPITAL THAT THAT IS A GOOD APPROACH FITTING INTO THAT CURRENT CONTEXT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, MARK YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC MOTION YOU WOULD LIKE US TO MAKE, PHRASING TO USE.
SO ON PAGE TWO, IT'S APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS.
THE SUBMITTED CULTURAL RESOURCE STUDY AS A PHASE ONE STUDY MEETING MINIMUM SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS THAT INCLUDES MITIGATION AS DESCRIBED IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIAL PROVIDED BY SWI WITH FINALIZED MITIGATION MONITORED FOR COMPLIANCE BY THE HPL.
CAN I MOVE TO APPROVE THAT MOTION? I THINK YOU HAVE TO SAY ALL OF.
I HAVE TO SAY ALL THOUGHT WE COULD GET AROUND THAT.
OK, HOLD ON. SARA YOU CAN CORRECT ME, I'VE BEEN CHAIRPERSON FOR 10 MINUTES, SO.
PEOPLE VERY MUCH PREFERS AND SO DOES THE CITY CLERK THAT YOUR MOTION BE MADE EXPLICITLY AND OUT LOUD SO THAT IT'S ACCURATELY CAPTURED.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CAUTION THERE.
[INAUDIBLE] A COUPLE OF DIFFERENCES.
LIKE YOU SAID SWC THAT'S NOT IN THE IS THE ONE THAT IS POSTED IN THE AGENDA.
IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR YOU? THAT. THAT SHOULD BE THE CORRECT ONE IN THE AGENDA.
I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE ABBREVIATED FOR THE JUST FOR THE AGENDA PURPOSES, BUT IF YOU SAY.
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PERM DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED TODAY, THEN.I'M SORRY. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THAT IT IS CORRECT.
THE AGENDA MOTION IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE STAFF REPORT MOTION.
YOU CAN PICK. I JUST SAY MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT IS THAT IT BE SIMILAR TO WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED WITH MONITORING BY MARK THAN MAKE SURE THAT'S JUST A PART OF IT'S CLEAR. RIGHT.
WOULD I BE SAFE TO READ THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND? IT WOULD BE THE BEST.
SO I MOVE TO APPROVE WITH CONDITION.
PHASE ONE CULTURAL RESOURCE STUDY WITH MITIGATION UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF MARK.
AND THEN I KEEP GOING? TO FINALIZE.
OK. AND TO FINALIZE APPROPRIATE MITIGATION BY WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION OFFICER.
IS THAT SUFFICIENT? YEAH. OK. THANK YOU FOR TAKING A RISK ON A FIRST COMPLICATED MOTION.
ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER DAE, IS THAT CORRECT? DEA. SORRY.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER DAE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER DAE AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WEBBER.
AND BEFORE YOU, MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, NOT JUST DO READ THE REPORT, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING THINGS IS THE FACT THAT THE MORTUARY AND THE HEARSES WERE AN AMBULANCE SERVICE AS WELL.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE MORE UNIQUE ASPECTS OF THE MORTUARY'S HISTORY.
YEAH, THAT WAS SUPER INTERESTING.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DAVID, CHRIS AND GUILLERMO AND I GIVE THE POWER BACK TO COMMISSIONER HAYWARD.
WELL, WHAT POWER? THANK YOU EMILY.
GREAT JOB. WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE WINDOW REPLACEMENT FOR THE
[B. Headline Salon Window Replacement - Historic Bikker Building PROPERTY INFORMATION: Address: 113 E Aspen Ave Assessor's Parcel Number: 10121017 Property Owner: Sandra Tann Applicant: Sandra Tann w/ Tesano Contracting City Staff: Mark Reavis, Heritage Preservation Officer REQUESTED ACTION: This is a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness for window and door replacements. RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve a Certificate of Appropriateness for window and door replacements at 113 E Aspen Ave with the condition of working with the HPO to ensure that the window installation includes the appropriate detailing and recreates the upper grill pattern and profiles prior to installation.]
HEADLINE SALON IN THE HISTORIC BAKER BUILDING AT ONE ONE THREE EAST ASPEN AVENUE.AND THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED FROM LAST MONTH.
AND MARK, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S HAPPENED.
YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. IT'S CERTAINLY ONE OF OUR MORE UNIQUE BUILDINGS, A VERY HANDSOME BUILDING.
PRETTY AMAZING THAT IT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1897 AND THAT THEY'RE REMODELING THAT YOU'RE SEEING WITH A DECORATIVE PEBBLE FINISH IS 1915 REMODEL OF THAT BUILDING.
VERY DISTINCTIVE WITH THAT CORNER COLUMN IN THE ARCHWAY OPENING ON AN ALLEY TOWARD THE EAST OF THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND THE SITUATION THAT DELAYED HAVING THIS BE HEARD, WAS THE FACT THAT THE WINDOWS WERE PRE-PURCHASED AND WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS AN INTENT TO COMPLY WITH THE DOWNTOWN DESIGN STANDARDS, SO THEY'VE DONE AS MUCH AS THEY CAN WITH THOSE PRE-PURCHASE WITH A COMMITMENT.
TO THE PRIMARY WINDOWS IN THE FRONT, RECREATING THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE THERE CURRENTLY.
THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE AS AN INTRODUCTION, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THE APPLICANT HAS A POWERPOINT.
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN AND THEN GET TO THE POWERPOINT.
YOU SHOULD BE SEEING MY SCREEN.
HELLO, EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR THIS TESANO CONTRACTING HEADLINE SALON WINDOWS PRESENTATION.
THIS IS THE PHOTO OF THE BUILDING AS IT EXISTS NOW WITH THESE WINDOWS THAT ARE UP FOR DISCUSSION. AS YOU CAN SEE, MARK MENTIONED THESE ARCHES HERE THAT FACE BOTH NORTH AND EAST. HERE'S THE FLOOR PLAN THAT HAS THE WINDOWS LISTED A THROUGH F AND FOR OUR PURPOSES, WINDOWS A AND B ARE OUR PRIMARY WINDOWS.
THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT YOU JUST SAW ON THE OUTSIDE OF THOSE PILLARS.
THIS IS THE WINDOW THAT FACES NORTH TO ASPEN STREET.
SANDRA TAN, THE BUILDING OWNER, FIRST APPROACHED TESANO CONTRACTING AND THAT REMINDS ME I DID NOT INTRODUCE MYSELF, WHICH I WILL DO NOW.
I AM THE OFFICE MANAGER FOR TESANO CONTRACTING.
OUR ADDRESS IS 809 WEST REARDON ROAD SUITE 100-225 HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.
SO SANDRA APPROACHED US IN FEBRUARY BECAUSE OF THE CONDENSATE ON THE INSIDE OF THE WINDOWS THAT WAS CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE WOOD AND THE WALLS THEMSELVES.
THIS IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR AN HISTORICAL BUILDING ESPECIALLY.
THE INTEGRITY OF THE BUILDING ITSELF IS THREATENED IF THE WINDOWS ARE NOT REPLACED PROPERLY AND SOON.
IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE DAMAGE NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED QUICKLY AND COMPETENTLY.
SANDRA WAS PUT IN TOUCH WITH PAUL MALIS, A LONG TIME WINDOW SALESMAN HERE IN TOWN.
THEY WORKED DILIGENTLY TO SELECT WINDOWS THAT WERE AS SIMILAR AS POSSIBLE WHILE STILL MEETING THE NEW ENERGY CODES.
THEN SANDRA AND PAUL BROUGHT TOM PHELAN, THE OWNER OF TESANO CCONTRACTING IN TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY FACET OF THE FAÇADE WOULD BE REPLICATED EXACTLY WHEN REPLACING THESE WINDOWS.
FROM THE QUARTER ROUND BETWEEN THE FRAME AND THE GLASS TO THE STONE AND MORTAR TO KEEPING AS MUCH OF THE EXISTING FRAMES AS POSSIBLE, EACH DETAIL WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE BUILDUP OF THE WINDOW FRAMES IS QUITE EXTENSIVE, IMPLYING THAT THESE WINDOWS HAVE ALL BEEN ALTERED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST.
HOWEVER, THE MATERIALS AND LAYERS OF FRAMING SUGGEST THIS IS NOT IN FACT, ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION. NEVERTHELESS, WE HAVE RECORDED THE EXACT MEASUREMENTS OF EACH PART OF THE SETBACKS WITHIN THE WINDOWS, INCLUDING THE QUARTER ROUND TO BE DUPLICATED PRECISELY AT THE END OF THE PROCESS.
THIS YEAR, THE QUARTER ROUND WILL BE PLACED DIRECTLY ON THE GLASS.
THE RECTANGLE PIECE IN THE THIRD PICTURE IS THE NEW FRAME FROM THE LAST TIME THESE WINDOWS WERE REPLACED.
THE PIECE NEAREST THE OUTLINE NEAREST THE OUTSIDE IS MOST LIKELY THE ORIGINAL FRAME AND WILL BE LEFT IN PLACE OR THE ROT WILL BE CUT OUT AND MATCHED EXACTLY. THIS PERTAINS TO ALL THE WINDOWS, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PRIMARY FRONT TWO WINDOWS. THIS BATHROOM WINDOW HERE FACES THE ALLEY.
IT WILL NOT HAVE THE FULL GRID THAT EXISTS NOW.
WE ARE RETURNING IT TO THE ORIGINAL LOOK WITH A GRID JUST AT THE TOP TO MATCH THE REST OF THE WINDOWS. ON THE ALLEY SIDE OF THE BUILDING, YOU SAW THOSE THAT GRID ON THE THE OTHER WINDOWS ALREADY.
EXISTING GRATES WERE ADDED 20 YEARS AGO AND DONE INCORRECTLY.
WE WILL FIX THAT AT THIS TIME.
WHILE ELIMINATING THE WATER PENETRATION PROBLEM BY REMOVING AND REPLACING ROTTED WOOD IN THE FRAMES AND WALLS THEMSELVES, WE WILL MAINTAIN THE EXISTING FRAMES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THIS WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED BY CUTTING OUT ONLY THE ROTTED SECTIONS AND MATCHING THE REPLACEMENT WOOD EXACTLY.
THE WINDOWS WERE ORDERED SO THAT WE COULD REMOVE THE EXISTING WINDOWS, CUT OUT SECTIONS OF EXISTING FRAMES THAT WERE ROTTEN AND REPLACED, MAINTAIN THE EXISTING POSITION OF THE WINDOWS WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE WALL.
THE SETBACK ON THE INTERIOR AND THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING WILL STAY EXACTLY THE SAME AND MAINTAIN THE ABILITY TO REMOVE AND REPLACE THE THREE QUARTER INCH QUARTER ROUND BETWEEN THE FRAME AND THE GLASS.
THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IN THE WINDOW DESIGN IS TO THE SECONDARY WINDOWS IN THE ALLEY.
TWO OF THOSE WINDOWS WILL HAVE THESE SLIDERS.
THE FRONT TWO PRIMARY WINDOWS WILL HAVE NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
THE WINDOWS HAVE BEEN PAINTED MANY TIMES.
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SANDRA, THE OWNER, WOULD HAVE LIKED TO MAINTAIN THE COLOR THAT SHE HAS ON THE BUILDING NOW, WHICH IS A GRAY BLUE COLOR.THIS COLOR WAS NOT AVAILABLE IN WINDOW MANUFACTURING, SO SHE WENT WITH BLACK.
SHE HAS AGREED TO PAINT ALL THE NEW TRIM BLACK, MOST LIKELY THE ORIGINAL COLOR ON THE BUILDING. WE'RE ALL WORKING DILIGENTLY TO KEEP THE LOOK AND THE FEEL OF THE WINDOWS THE SAME WHILE ACHIEVING THE U-VALUE REQUIRED BY CODE.
ALL FACETS HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, DOCUMENTED AND DUPLICATED TO MATCH.
THE BUILD UP OF FRAMING AROUND THE WINDOWS WILL BE MATCHED AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE.
THE LOOK OF THE BARS ON TOP OF THE WINDOWS A, EXCUSE ME A AND B WILL BE MATCHED BY A LOCAL CABINET MAKER, THE ALUMINUM THRESHOLDS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE WINDOWS RUNNING FROM THE WINDOW FRAME OUT TO THE BRICK WINDOW SILL WILL BE MATCHED BY A LOCAL WELDING SHOP WHO WILL FABRICATE THE IDENTICAL ALUMINUM TRIM OF A 22 GAUGE GALVANIZED STEEL.
THE MASON, WHO HAS DONE A GREAT DEAL OF PAINTING AND MASONRY REPAIR IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, IS READY AND WAITING TO REPOINT THE WINDOW SILLS AND THE FACADES AS NECESSARY AROUND THE NEW WINDOWS. HERE ON THIS SCREEN AND ON THE NEXT SCREEN ARE THE GUIDELINES WE USED THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS WITH YOU.
I'M SURE THAT YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THESE.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT, ACCORDING TO THE U.S.
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, FOR THE REHABILITATION, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE, NUMBER SIX IN PARTICULAR STATES THE DETERIORATED HISTORIC FEATURES WILL BE REPAIRED RATHER THAN REPLACED, WHERE THE SEVERITY OF DETERIORATION REQUIRES REPLACEMENT OF A DISTINCTIVE FEATURE.
THE NEW FEATURE WILL MATCH THE OLD IN DESIGN COLOR, TEXTURE AND, WHERE POSSIBLE, MATERIALS.
REPLACEMENT OF MISSING FEATURES WILL BE SUBSTANTIATED BY DOCUMENTARY AND PHYSICAL EVIDENCE. THIS IS THE CRUX OF OUR PURPOSE AND CONCERN.
THE WINDOWS THEMSELVES ARE CREATING A CONDITION THAT IS DETERIORATING THE WALLS.
WHEN RECTIFIED, THE DETERIORATION WILL BE MITIGATED WHILE MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE BUILDING.
I ALSO HAVE ON A SEPARATE DOCUMENT EACH OF THESE.
EACH OF THESE REQUIREMENTS, EACH OF THESE GUIDELINES.
IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COPY OR HAVE A COPY OF THAT DOCUMENT, I CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE. SANDRA TAN AND TESANO CONTRACTING LLC ARE EXCITED TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PREVENT FUTURE DAMAGE TO SUCH A MARVELOUS TESTAMENT TO FLAGSTAFF UNIQUE HISTORY AND TO CORRECT THE DAMAGE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.
WE ARE CONCERNED THAT IF THIS IS NOT DONE NOW, THE WALLS THEMSELVES ARE GOING TO ROT FROM THE INSIDE DUE TO THE CURRENT STATE OF THE CONDENSATION POURING DOWN THE INTERIOR OF THE EXISTING WINDOWS.
WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO REMOVE ANY ROT WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF INVASION AND REPLACE THE NECESSARY COMPONENTS WHILE MAINTAINING THE CURRENT LOOK AND FEEL OF THE BUILDING WHEN THE WORK IS DONE.
ANYONE WALKING BY WILL HAVE NO IDEA THAT ANYTHING HAS CHANGED, BUT WE WILL HAVE PREVENTED FURTHER DAMAGE TO A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
THAT IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN OUR GOAL AND ONE WE BELIEVE IS PERFECTLY ACHIEVABLE.
THANK YOU. AND NOW I'M GOING TO STOP SHARING.
THERE IT IS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE MANY QUESTIONS FOR EITHER STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? CHAIRMAN HAYWARD, THIS IS COMMISSIONER HORN.
AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR THAT PRESENTATION, IT REALLY HELPS CLARIFY A LOT OF THE DETAILS FROM THE MATERIAL WE WERE PROVIDED AHEAD OF TIME, SO THANK YOU.
I FELT LIKE THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL.
I CAN TAKE OVER, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
MY ONLY QUESTION FOR YOU, MARK, WAS YOU'RE SATISFIED AT THIS POINT THAT THE CHANGES TO THE APPLICANT'S DESIGN MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
YES, I JUST BY CLARIFYING THAT AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS DONE IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD SEE LIKE AN ARCHITECTURAL PRESENTATION.
BUT AGAIN, I REALLY COMMEND VANESSA FOR PULLING THAT TOGETHER IN A POWERPOINT THAT
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ACTUALLY MAKES IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SHOWING WHAT SOME OF OUR SUBMISSIONS COULD BE TO BE A LITTLE MORE CLARIFIED TO TELL A STORY BETTER.SO VANESSA WENT FROM NOT KNOWING A LOT TO KNOWING A WHOLE LOT IN A MATTER OF A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE NOW AND THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, DONE BY A CONTRACTOR WORKING WITH THE OWNER AND A WINDOW MANUFACTURER.
SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD SITUATION IS WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH.
GOOD. THANKS, MARK, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO, I COULD READ THE MOTION OR I COULD JUST REFERENCE IT, AND THEN SOMEBODY COULD READ IT TO SAVE SOME TIME ON PAGE TWO OF THE STAFF REPORT.
DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? NO, I THINK THAT'S OK IF SOMEONE WANTS TO JUST FIND IT AND MAKE THE MOTION, THAT'LL WORK.
IS IT THE ONE IN THE AGENDA? AGAIN, THE BEST ONE IS IN THE STAFF REPORT, YOU CAN CLICK ON IT.
THIS IS COMMISSIONER HORN, AGAIN, I'VE GOT IT.
I MOVE TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR WINDOW AND DOOR REPLACEMENTS AT 113 EAST ASPEN AVENUE WITH THE CONDITION OF WORKING WITH THE HPO TO ENSURE THAT THE WINDOW INSTALLATION INCLUDES THE APPROPRIATE DETAILING AND RECREATES THE UPPER GRILLE PATTERN AND PROFILES PRIOR TO INSTALLATION.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
THAT WAS A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HORN AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER KELLY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. AYE.
ANY ABSTENTIONS? THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TO THE APPLICANT, FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH THE PROCESS AND IN A WORST CASE SCENARIO, HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN NOW PUT EXPERTS IN HISTORIC WINDOW PRESERVATION ON YOUR ON YOUR RESUME.
ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO GENERAL BUSINESS AND REPORTS.
[7. REPORTS]
AND MARK, I THINK, YOU KNOW THE DRILL HERE, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US SOME HIGHLIGHTS, I BELIEVE. SORRY, EXCUSE ME.EXCUSE ME. I BELIEVE, SIR, WE HAD A THE PUBLIC, WAS OVER PUBLIC COMMENT AND IT WAS EMAILED IN WAS ON ONE OF THESE DO WE? DO WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON REPORTS IF THEY'RE NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM? WE USUALLY DO NOT.
SO THE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, EIGHT SIX, WE DID GET AN EMAIL WHERE SOMEONE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT.
WE USUALLY DON'T TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON REPORTS.
I WILL SAY THAT THE REQUEST WAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN HELLO, PLANNING AND ZONING.
SO I'M ALSO GOING TO SHARE IT WITH ALEXANDRA PUCCIARELLI, THE CURRENT PLANNING MANAGER, IN CASE IT WAS MISDIRECTED.
BUT I THINK THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE CLARIFY THAT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM IS A SECTION 106.
WAS A SECTION 106 CONSULTATION.
AND SO WHAT IT'S IN HERE FOR IS THAT IT'S MOVING THROUGH SITE PLAN AND THAT MARK HAS APPROVED IT IN SITE PLAN.
BUT THE REVIEW FROM THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION STANDPOINT WAS DONE BY THE HPO ALMOST A YEAR AGO, AND IT WASN'T AND IT WASN'T A DECISION THAT FELL WITHIN THE AUTHORITY OF THE COMMISSION. MARK, AS OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER, ACTUALLY DOES ALL SECTION 106 REVIEWS, AND HE ONLY REFERS THEM TO THE COMMISSION WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING HE'S SEEKING CLARIFICATION ON.
SO THAT'S JUST A POINT OF ORDER.
I THINK I CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMENT IS ENTERED INTO THE MINUTES IN THE RECORD, BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY MAKING A DECISION ON THAT ITEM TONIGHT, AND THE DECISION, ACTION WAS MADE A LONG TIME AGO OK, AND IT WASN'T ACTUALLY LIKE YOU SAID, I MEAN, IT WASN'T EVEN ADDRESSED TO THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION RIGHT? YEAH, BUT THEY SENT IT TO ME, I ASSUME THEY GOT MY EMAIL OFF OF THE AGENDA.
IT WAS GENERALLY JUST A CONCERN ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE PUBLIC MEETINGS ASSOCIATED WITH
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THE APPROVAL OF A CELL PHONE TOWER.YEAH, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THIS WAS OVER A YEAR AGO, THIS STARTED, SO.
YEAH, IT'S SORT OF A IT'S A REPORT OUT TO YOU, BUT THE DECISION LONG, LONG AGO ESSENTIALLY. YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] IT'S IT'S ON THAT REVIEW.
THERE WAS A FULL CULTURAL RESOURCE STUDY AND AN EVALUATION OF THE VIEW SHEDS.
AND THEIR PRIMARY CONCERN WAS.
IS IT VISIBLE? THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TREE SIZED CELL TOWERS.
IS IT VERY VISIBLE FROM THE MUSEUM FACILITY ITSELF, WHICH WAS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT FEATURE, SO THE MUSEUM PROPERTY IS QUITE LARGE AND IT'S ACROSS THE ROAD FROM THERE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES AROUND THAT AREA.
SO THAT WAS THE DETERMINATION BY THE CONSULTANT THAT IT DID NOT HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT.
WELL, I GUESS THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES WHO PROBABLY WANTED TO TOUCH ON.
DO YOU WANT TO GIVE US INFO ON ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, THERE WERE TWO AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU OPENED THEM UP OR NOT, BUT 112 EAST DALE WAS PRETTY FASCINATING HOW IT TURNED OUT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT. WE REVIEWED IT AND WE LOOKED AT IT, AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS A LOOK THAT WAS CLOSER TO SOME OF THE MORE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THAT HAD THE BRACKETS, IT WAS MORE OF A BUNGALOW STYLE WHEN THEY PULLED OFF THE LAYER OF STUCCO AND THE FERRING THAT WAS ON THIS BUILDING, IT UNCOVERED THESE VENTS.
SO THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT STYLISTIC CHANGE IN THE PROJECT AND THE PEOPLE THAT WERE WORKING ON THE PROJECT SAID WE REALLY SHOULD MAINTAIN WHAT THE ORIGINAL STYLE IS.
SO I WORKED WITH THEM AND I THINK IT TURNED OUT VERY WELL.
AND AGAIN, ONE OF THE GREAT FEATURES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S VERY QUIRKY FLAGSTAFF IS THIS RAILING THAT THEY ALSO PRESERVED, WHICH IS A NICE, UNIQUE FEATURE THAT I THINK EVERYBODY APPRECIATES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
INTERIOR IS REALLY NICE NOW, SO I THINK IT'S A REAL GREAT COMPLIMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL WORTH IT PROVIDING A FAÇADE GRANT FOR THAT PROJECT.
YEAH, THAT LOOKS THAT LOOKS GOOD.
BORROW YOUR TERM, THAT'S A THAT'S A HANDSOME HOUSE NOW, MARK.
THAT'S A REVIEW THAT WE DID AS A FAÇADE GRANT 123 EAST BENTON IN THE HEART OF SOUTH SIDE, REALLY ONE OF THE MORE UNIQUE FLOOR PLANS.
IT'S ONE OF THE WILDEST TRAPEZOIDAL FARMS THAT YOU'VE EVER SEEN.
IT HAD VERY BOXY ALUMINUM WINDOWS IN IT, AND THE WINDOWS THAT WERE SELECTED HAVE MORE OF A PROFILE ARE IN BETTER CONDITION.
THE INSTALLATION WAS DONE VERY PROFESSIONALLY.
SO AGAIN, I THINK THIS ONE WAS IT WAS PRIMARILY JUST THE WINDOWS AND MONITORING HOW THE WINDOWS WENT IN.
THEY HAVE MOVED INTO THEIR HOUSE, SO A HOUSE THAT WAS NOT IN THE BEST OF SHAPE HAS NOW AGAIN A REAL ASSET TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANY OTHER REPORTS? JUST A LOT OF TYPICAL REVIEWS MONITORING WHAT'S GOING ON AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY HERITAGE COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS, EITHER FOR ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES OR HISTORIC RESOURCES. I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY PARTICULAR ONE.
COMMISSIONS GOT ANY, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ASK.
THIS IS COMMISSIONER HORN, AND I HAD A I GUESS, KIND OF A COMMENT ABOUT THE NUMBER FIVE, THE FORTY NINE FIFTY EAST TRAILS END DRIVE THE YARD.
YEAH. ONE THING I NOTICED ON THERE IS THE WHAT THE REPORT REFERS TO IS A ROAD THAT GOES UP. SHEEP HILL IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FIRST SKI JUMPS IN FLAGSTAFF.
IT WAS BUILT IN THE 1930S AND HAD A SKI JUMP AND A SMALL SHELTER AND RESTROOMS, AND WAS CLOSED IN 1935.
DUE TO A FATALITY THAT OCCURRED THERE, AND I GUESS I GUESS I JUST HAD A QUESTION.
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THE REPORT MENTIONS THAT THERE'S HISTORIC.HISTORIC ARTIFACTS ON THE GROUND AND EVIDENCE OF PONDEROSA PINE TREE CUTTING THAT COULD THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND I JUST WONDERED IF IT'S IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO REQUEST ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION INTO THAT.
THERE'S AN ARTICLE IN THE JOURNAL OF ARIZONA HISTORY FROM 2009 THAT DOCUMENTS WHAT WAS AT THE SITE AND KIND OF WHERE IT FALLS IN THE THE HISTORY OF FLAGSTAFF.
ALL THAT. NO, I'M SURE THAT LYNN NEAL WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO AMEND THAT REPORT.
IN FACT, I THINK SHE'D BE REALLY KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT KNOWING THAT INFORMATION.
SO OK. YEAH, I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YEAH, TO ASK HER TO GO BACK AND TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IT DOES SOUND LIKE THERE WERE SOME STRUCTURES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'D BE ANY EVIDENCE LEFT, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE WHAT SHE DESCRIBED COULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT SITE.
OKAY. AND I REALLY DID JUST PUT THE CONCENTRATION ON ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES, RIGHT, BECAUSE OF THAT TRAVEL PATH, AND I REALLY HAD NOT EMPHASIZED ANYTHING IN THE HISTORIC TIME PERIOD. SO WELL, YOU DON'T REALLY EXPECT IT OUT THERE.
SO IT'S KIND OF IT'S KIND OF A SURPRISE.
BUT WHEN I WAS GETTING MY HUSBAND TO HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHERE THE MAP WAS, HE'S LIKE, OH, THAT'S THE SKI RUN.
THAT'S WHERE THE SKI JUMP WAS.
SO I DECIDED I SHOULD FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WAS.
THIS IS WHY WE HAVE QUALIFIED COMMISSIONERS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. OK, WELL, THAT'S EXCITING, IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT SHE DISCOVERS. YEAH.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, AMY. DOES ANYONE ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYONE ELSE? AND WE HAVE ON THE NEXT ITEM, DO WE HAVE ANY MISCELLANEOUS TO OR FROM ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR
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THE COMMISSION? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME, EXCEPT HAPPY HOLIDAYS, EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE THIS YEAR.I'LL JUST ADD THAT I DID DO A LITTLE PRESERVATION BLURB ON [INAUDIBLE] RADIO, SO TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT. THANK YOU, MARK.
YOU HAVE THE MAKINGS OF A RADIO STAR, I'M SURE.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, WONDERFUL, WELL, THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
AND LIKE SARA SAID, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
AND WE WILL ADJOURN BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT AT 4:48 P.M..
HAPPY HOLIDAYS. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
THANKS, EVERY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.