WE ARE READY TO START, THANK YOU, MARIE.
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OK, SO THIS IS THE I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE JANUARY 26TH 2022 PLANNING AND[1. Call to Order]
ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND START WITH A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.[2. Roll Call NOTE: One or more Commission Members may be in attendance telephonically or by other technological means. DAVID ZIMMERMAN, CHAIR MARIE JONES, VICE CHAIR DR. RICARDO GUTHRIE CAROLE MANDINO DR. ALEX MARTINEZ DR. ERIC NOLAN LLOYD PAUL ]
MARIE JONES.SO WE HAVE A QUORUM AND FIRST ITEM IS OR THE ITEM NUMBER THREE IS PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY SUBJECT WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION.
THAT'S NOT SCHEDULED BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON THIS DAY TODAY.
DUE TO OPEN MEETING LAWS, THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR ACT ON THE ITEMS PRESENTED DURING THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON AN ITEM THAT IS ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE WAIT FOR THE CHAIR TO CALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE TIME THE ITEM IS HEARD.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? I DO NOT SEE ANYTHING POPPING UP HERE.
SO THE NEXT ITEM, NUMBER FOUR, IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES, BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Approval of the minutes from the regular meeting on Wednesday, January 12, 2022.]
FOR THAT? THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO.I HAVE A CHANGE TO THE MINUTES.
THE LAST MEETING, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES WAS MOVED BY ERIC NOLAN AND I SECONDED IT INSTEAD OF ME MOVING IT AND ERIC SECONDING IT.
SO I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THAT CHANGE.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? THIS IS COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE], I'LL SECOND.
OK, THANK YOU. SO ANY DISCUSSION BESIDES WHAT CAROLE ALREADY MENTIONED? OTHERWISE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE A VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING SAY AYE.
AYE. AYE.. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SO THAT MOTION PASSES.
NEXT, WE HAVE, UNDER GENERAL BUSINESS, A WORK SESSION FOR TO DISCUSS THE CITY'S PROPOSED
[A. Case No. PZ-21-00282: Request for a worksession with the Planning and Zoning Commission to discuss the City's proposed amendment to the Zoning Code to modify the existing Residential Sustainable Building Standards (Section 10-30.70). STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Does the Planning and Zoning Commission have any recommeded modifications or considerations on the proposed Zoning Code Text Amendment?]
AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING CODE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SUSTAINABLE BUILDING STANDARDS.SO I ASSUME WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THAT, TIFFANY.
YES, WE DO. AND TONIGHT I AM SHARING THIS PRESENTATION WITH JENNY NEEMAN FROM OUR SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION.
I'M JUST SORT OF FILLING IN AND AND TAKING SOME OF THESE ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS THROUGH THE PROCESS SORT OF ON AN INTERIM BASIS.
I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT SLIDESHOW GO.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN I CAN SEE IT, AND THEN HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT TO.
THERE WE GO. CAN YOU ALL SEE MY SCREEN NOW? YES, WE GOT IT.
SO TONIGHT WE ARE HOLDING A WORK SESSION BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THIS WILL BE FOLLOWED UP WITH A PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT WILL BE FEBRUARY 9TH.
SO AT THE FEBRUARY 9TH MEETING, YOU WILL BE MAKING YOU'LL TAKE FORMAL ACTION ON THIS AMENDMENT. BUT TONIGHT IT'S JUST A WORK SESSION, A TIME FOR US TO DISCUSS WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS.
TAKE ANY OF YOUR FEEDBACK AND BASICALLY MAKE ANY NECESSARY CHANGES THAT YOU SEE AS IMPORTANT TO THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT.
THIS AMENDMENT IS IMPORTANT TO A PARTICULAR CASE RIGHT NOW THAT IS MOVING TO BUILDING PERMIT, SO IT IS A HIGH PRIORITY ITEM TO SEE MOVE FORWARD.
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SO THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO ZONING CODE SECTION 10 30 70 RESIDENTIAL SUSTAINABLE BUILDING STANDARDS. THIS IS OKEY DOKEY SCREEN MOVE.THERE WE GO. SO THIS IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO EXISTING STANDARDS.
AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE BIG CHANGES, THE AMENDMENT REMOVES WHAT IS CURRENTLY CALLED THE HOME ENERGY RATING SYSTEM.
OR, YOU KNOW, THE LINGO AROUND THE OFFICE IS THE HERS STANDARD.
THERE'S A HERS 50 ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDARD WITHIN THE CURRENT ZONING CODE THAT BASICALLY ALLOWS A DENSITY BONUS.
SO STAFF IS PROPOSING TO CHANGE OUT THE HER STANDARD WITH BASICALLY MORE UPDATED, MORE USEFUL TYPES OF STANDARDS AND CERTIFICATIONS.
SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO REPLACE THE HERS WITH AN ALL ELECTRIC, ENERGY EFFICIENT BUILDING AND BUILDINGS THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED TO COMPLY WITH THE U.S.
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY'S ENERGY STAR WATER SENSE AND OR THE INDOOR AIR PLUS CERTIFICATIONS. IN ADDITION, WE ARE INCORPORATING ELECTRIC VEHICLE SUPPLY EQUIPMENT PROVISIONS. WE ARE ALSO REVISING WASTE REDUCTION REQUIREMENTS AND ALLOWING THE PLANNING DIRECTOR TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH ANY PROPERTY OWNER THAT COMPLIES WITH THESE STANDARDS TO INCREASE THEIR RESIDENTIAL BY RESIDENTIAL DENSITY BY 25 PERCENT.
SO LET'S GO THROUGH THAT AMENDMENT IN REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE CODE, WE ARE AGAIN UPDATING THE PURPOSE BECAUSE THE PURPOSE DOES REFERENCE AND RELY ON THAT HERS 50 STANDARD.
SO WE ARE REMOVING THE REFERENCE AND BASICALLY PROVIDING JUST UPDATED INFORMATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS PARTICULAR DIVISION.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF DENSITY BONUSES, AGAIN REMOVING THE HERS AND REPLACING IT WITH OTHER PROVISIONS. BUT THE 25 PERCENT IS CURRENTLY ALREADY IN PLACE.
AGAIN, IT IS MEETING A HERS 50 THAT GETS YOU THAT STANDARD AND YOU CAN YOU'LL SEE HERE SHORTLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND JENNY, IF AT ANY TIME I CAN'T SEE MY SCREEN, I CAN'T SEE THE CHAT. SO JENNY, IF I GET ANY OF THIS WRONG, PLEASE, PLEASE JUMP IN.
WILL DO, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
SO HERE IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IN TERMS OF THE MINIMUM STANDARDS.
THE MINIMUM STANDARDS COVER WATER RESOURCE PROTECTION PROVISIONS, TRANSPORTATION AND AIR QUALITY PROVISIONS, WASTE REDUCTION MANAGEMENT AND ALSO ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
IN TERMS OF THE WATER RESOURCE PROTECTION PROVISIONS THERE, THESE PROVISIONS PRIMARILY REMAIN THE SAME. HOWEVER, THEY'RE UPDATED TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE BUILDINGS WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR JUST MAKING IT MORE SPECIFIC.
AND WE'RE JUST CLARIFYING VERSUS LITTLE TYPOGRAPHICAL OR MORE LANGUAGE BASED CHANGES RATHER THAN ANYTHING SUBSTANTIVE.
IN TERMS OF TRANSPORTATION AND AIR QUALITY PROVISIONS, THESE WILL NOW REQUIRE A DEVELOPMENT TO BE LOCATED WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF A TRANSIT STOP OR ACCOMMODATE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING IN ORDER TO OBTAIN THIS TWENTY FIVE PERCENT DENSITY BONUS.
IN TERMS OF WASTE REDUCTION AND MANAGEMENT PROVISIONS.
THEY'VE BEEN REVISED TO INCORPORATE MATERIALS MANAGEMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS A CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THESE PLANS HAVE TO BE PREPARED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CHECKLISTS AND STANDARDS FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION.
THEY ALSO HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR OR THEIR DESIGNEE.
AND AGAIN, THE LAST ONE IS ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROVISIONS, WHICH NOW INCLUDES THREE OPTIONS IN PLACE OF THE FORMER HERS 50.
SO A DEVELOPER MAY CHOOSE ANY ONE OF THESE OPTIONS.
THEY CAN GO ALL ELECTRIC, THEY CAN DO ALL ELECTRIC, ENERGY EFFICIENT BUILDING, OR THEY CAN DO ALL ELECTRIC BUILDING THAT EARNS TRIPLE CERTIFICATION FOR ENERGY, WATER AND AIR QUALITY. AND IN TERMS OF THE RESIDENTIAL SUSTAINABLE BUILDING AGREEMENT, THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO ALLOW THE PLANNING DIRECTOR TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH A PROPERTY OWNER TO COMPLY WITH THE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS TO OBTAIN A DENSITY BONUS.
IT'S NOT REALLY A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT IT IS A SEPARATE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD ACCOMPANY THAT DENSITY BONUS TO ENSURE THAT THE PROPERTY THROUGH TIME MAINTAINS AND MEETS THE STANDARDS FOR WHICH IT ACHIEVE THAT DENSITY BONUS.
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AND LASTLY, THERE IS A NEW DEFINITION PLACED IN THE CODE THAT DEFINES ELECTRIC VEHICLE SUPPLY EQUIPMENT.JENNY, DO YOU MIND IF I HAND THE MIC OVER TO YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN? NO, NOT AT ALL.
THANKS. OK, YOU CAN HEAR ME GREAT.
THANKS COMMISSION MEMBERS AND CHAIR.
I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT REALLY QUICKLY.
THIS AMENDMENT WILL ALIGN REALLY NICELY, ACTUALLY WITH A NUMBER OF OUR TARGET AREAS, AS WELL AS THEIR DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND EACH ONE OF THOSE.
AND SO THE FIRST THREE ARE HERE.
THE EQUITY ONE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN MOST, JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THESE AMENDMENTS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP US.
THE HOUSING AMENDMENTS GET MOVED, YOU KNOW, MOVE THOSE FORWARD.
THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS THAT THE HOUSING INCENTIVE AND THE SUSTAINABILITY INCENTIVE KIND OF CONFLICT AND SO THIS ACTUALLY WILL HELP US IN THAT WAY.
AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FROM AN EQUITY STANDPOINT, DECREASE DEPENDENCE ON CARS.
THIS SPEAKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS AND LOCATING NEAR TRANSIT.
ELECTRIC MOBILITY IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO LOCATE NEAR TRANSIT, WE ASK THAT YOU HAVE EV CHARGERS. TIFFANY, WOULD YOU MIND GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE? THANK YOU.
CLEAN ELECTRICITY, SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LESS CLEAR CUT, BUT SOME OF THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY ITEMS CAN BE PAIRED WITH CLEAN ELECTRICITY TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE INCENTIVE BUILDING.
FUEL SWITCHING IS A PRETTY IMPORTANT ONE IN THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE NEW BUILDINGS TO RELY ON THE ELECTRIC GRID AND THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL FOR OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS.
REDUCE BUILDING ENERGY, USE THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY REQUIREMENTS, MOVE US FURTHER, HELP US HAVE THIS BE A STRONGER INCENTIVE AND THEN SUSTAINABLE CONSUMPTION AND WASTE MANAGEMENT THAT ALIGNS WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AS WELL.
SO WE JUST SAW A LOT OF ALIGNMENT HERE, AND IT WAS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SAY YES, THAT'S WHAT THESE INCENTIVES ARE FOR RIGHT THERE TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE GOALS IN WAYS THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY ON A CODE LEVEL OR WE'RE NOT READY TO.
THANK YOU, TIFFANY. THANKS, JENNY.
SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, I JUST WANTED TO COVER REALLY QUICKLY WHAT THE FINDINGS ARE GOING TO BE FOR THE ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENT WHEN YOU ALL REVIEW THIS ON FEBRUARY 9TH AND THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT DOES HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT AND CONFORM WITH THE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE GENERAL PLAN, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, OUR REGIONAL PLAN.
THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS NOT DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST, HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE OR WELFARE OF THE CITY, AND THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS INTERNALLY CONSISTENT WITH OTHER APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF THE ZONING CODE.
AND STAFF BELIEVES THAT WE'RE GOING TO MEET ALL OF THESE FINDINGS AND WE WILL BE PREPARED TO GO THROUGH THE FINDING MORE FINDINGS AND MORE DETAIL ON FEBRUARY 9TH.
AND SO NOW JUST REALLY WANT TO OPEN AT THIS TOPIC UP FOR QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS BETWEEN STAFF AND THE COMMISSION.
I KNOW, YOU KNOW, JENNY IS IS SUCH THE EXPERT THAT I RELY ON.
SHE'S BEEN SO FUNDAMENTAL IN MAKING THIS A SUCCESSFUL CODE AMENDMENT.
SO, YEAH, WE'RE BOTH HERE TO TRY TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND I HOPE THAT THIS HELPS FURTHER SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMISSION AS WELL.
WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO STOP SHARING MY SCREEN SO I CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE REST OF THE MEETING. THANK YOU, TIFFANY AND JENNY, FOR THE PRESENTATION, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? ERIC? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, TIFFANY AND JENNY.
THE QUESTION THAT POPPED UP IN MY THINKING IS THAT ACTUALLY, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN BRING UP WHAT THE THREE ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS ARE OUTSIDE OF HERS50? IT HELPS IF I UNMUTE MYSELF.
SURE, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO SHARING MY STORY.
GREAT, THANKS. SO I LIKE HOW THIS IS GETTING AFTER THAT, LIKE JENNY WAS MENTIONING THE THING BETWEEN SUSTAINABILITY AND HOUSING BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE TRICKIEST WATERS TO NAVIGATE.
AND WHAT I'M WONDERING IS, SINCE THIS IS TIED TO A DENSITY BONUS, WOULD IT IN ESSENCE CANCEL OUT WHATEVER CARBON WOULD BE SAVED BECAUSE YOU'RE BRINGING MORE PEOPLE AND I GET IT FITS IN WITH LIKE A QUARTER OF A MILE OF A TRANSIT STOP.
BUT I GUESS I STILL SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE DRIVING.
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SO I'M JUST WONDERING, LIKE, HOW DO YOU GAUGE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A GROSS SAVINGS? SURE, I AM HAPPY TO SPEAK TO THAT.THANKS FOR THE QUESTION, COMMISSIONER NOLAN, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES. OH.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME, I'M SORRY [INAUDIBLE] MESSING AROUND WITH HEADPHONES IN A [INAUDIBLE].
THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH, SO ERIC.
WE ARE NOT ACTUALLY CLAIMING THE WE HAVE NOT DONE THE EMISSIONS CALCULATION AND THOSE WOULD BE DIFFERENT ON EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? HAS VERY, VERY DIFFERENT EMISSIONS CALCULATION BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING BASED ON WHERE IT IS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY CLAIMING THAT THIS IS GOING TO LEAD TO AN EMISSIONS REDUCTION OF A CERTAIN MAGNITUDE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS, RIGHT, AND ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, WHAT WE CAN DO IS CONTROL WHAT WE CAN CONTROL, RIGHT? WE CAN LOOK AT THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY OF THE BUILDINGS, ET CETERA.
FROM A MORE PEOPLE PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WE THAT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY BLACK AND WHITE, RIGHT? THIS COULD BE MORE PEOPLE THAT CAN LIVE IN FLAGSTAFF INSTEAD OF [INAUDIBLE] PARK, RIGHT, OR INSTEAD OF WINSLOW AND WILLIAMS. AND SO THAT MAY ACTUALLY LEAD TO LOWER GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS ON A REGIONAL OR GLOBAL LEVEL, RIGHT? IT CAN GET REALLY DANGEROUS.
IF YOU KNOW WE SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T HAVE ANY MORE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE OUR EMISSIONS GROW. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AT THAT BIGGER REGIONAL LEVEL, EVEN IF THAT'S NOT WHERE OUR POLICY CONTROL IS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
DOES THAT HELP ANSWER THE QUESTION? YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING, BECAUSE I'VE LOOKED AT A FEW DIFFERENT MODELS, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. I KNOW THIS IS TRICKY WATERS AND THE WORK THAT YOU ALL IN SUSTAINABILITY HAVE DONE TO KEEP COMING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO UPDATE MODELS, IT SEEMS EVERY YEAR.
BUT YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE OVERALL REDUCE CARBON EMISSIONS AND THE DENSITY BONUS? YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE A LOT OF BENEFITS IN THAT.
LIKE YOU WERE MENTIONING, IF PEOPLE ARE FURTHER AWAY AND THEY'RE COMING IN, THEN THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENT DYNAMIC ALTOGETHER.
SO YES, IT DOES ANSWER MY QUESTION.
THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THESE.
I'M HAPPY TO SEE THESE AMENDMENTS COMING FORWARD AND I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THERE WAS SOME WORDING. I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS HAVING TO DO WITH MAKING AN AGREEMENT, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR MAKING AN AGREEMENT WITH A PROJECT AND HOW AS THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD IN YEARS PAST, WHETHER THEY'RE SORT OF STICKING TO THEIR END OF THE DEAL IN ORDER TO BECAUSE THEY HAVE RECEIVED THAT DENSITY BONUS.
CAN YOU GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON HOW THAT WORKS IN TERMS OF LIKE ENFORCEMENT? HOW DO YOU HOW IS THAT? HOW DO YOU CHECK UP ON PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUILT AND ARE OPERATING? SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A PERFECT SYSTEM, BUT CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WE DO OUR BEST AS PEOPLE COME IN FOR PERMITS TO WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS. BUT IF WE WERE TO UNDERSTAND OR FIND THAT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO A PROPERTY, FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN, IF THEY WERE ALL ELECTRIC AND THEY CAME IN FOR A GAS PERMIT, THAT THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A TRIGGER.
SO THERE'S WAYS FOR US TO SORT OF IDENTIFY THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE UNDER THESE AGREEMENTS. YOU KNOW, ENFORCEMENT IS AS GOOD AS THE DOCUMENT.
WE HAVE THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE WRITTEN.
WE HAVE PROBABLY THE BEST ATTORNEY EVER.
SO I EXPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ACE OF AN AGREEMENT WRITTEN.
WE HAVE NOT YET WRITTEN THAT DOCUMENT OR THAT TEMPLATE.
AND PROBABLY AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE ALSO PROBABLY NEED TO IMPLEMENT MORE POLICY AND PROCEDURE ON OUR END AS WELL IN TERMS OF HOW WE IMPLEMENT THIS.
AND SO WE ALWAYS LIKE TO WRAP UP A ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO INTERNALLY DO THAT.
AND I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ALL OF THOSE ANSWERS RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE ONLY EVER HAD A COUPLE OF PROJECTS FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THIS WITH THIS DENSITY BONUS. IN THE PAST, IT WAS SO SIMPLE.
AND CURRENTLY, IT'S BEEN FAIRLY SIMPLE TO GET THIS DENSITY BONUS BY ONLY MEETING THOSE STANDARDS THAT I WAS ABLE TO JUST DOCUMENT A FILE THAT THEY'VE HAD THEIR TEST FOR THE
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HURST STANDARD RATING AND THEN PRETTY MUCH CALL IT GOOD.AND I MEAN, WE DO KEEP FAIRLY DETAILED PROPERTY RECORDS ON MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, SO HOPE THAT I HOPE THAT HELPS ANSWER THE QUESTION.
IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS WE'RE OPEN TO IMPROVING ANY OF THIS LANGUAGE, IF YOU SEE THAT'S NECESSARY.
OK, THANKS, TIFFANY, I GUESS THAT'S JUST, THAT'S ALWAYS THE BIG QUESTION IS HOW YOU FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT.
AND ALSO, I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO THINK ABOUT IT AND IF ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY IDEAS ON THAT, IT'S PROBABLY NOT AS BIG AN ISSUE ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, LIKE IT'S HARD TO PICTURE SOMEBODY GOING BACK TO GAS WHEN THEY'VE ALREADY BUILT FOR ELECTRIC.
BUT I KNOW THAT IN SOME CASES, DENSITY BONUSES FOR THINGS LIKE PARKING AND SO FORTH HAVE NOT ALL. YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE BEEN HARD TO JUST TO ENFORCE AS PROJECTS CHANGE HANDS. AND SO, YEAH, IF THERE ARE ANY IDEAS ON THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH SOME COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS? SO I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT I DID RECEIVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FROM A FORMER COMMISSIONER, DAVID CARPENTER, WHO IS ALSO A LOCAL DEVELOPER.
HE ACTUALLY PLAYED A BIG HAND IN WRITING THESE ORIGINAL TEXT AMENDMENTS, AND HE WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.
HE THOUGHT IT WAS A VAST IMPROVEMENT, AND HE WAS ALSO ENCOURAGING US TO FURTHER THIS AND INCLUDE IT FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PASS ALONG THOSE COMMENTS.
AND MARIE, I'M GOING TO PUT MY BRAIN TO THE ISSUE OF ENFORCEMENT AND TRY TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU ON FEBRUARY 9TH.
SO THIS IS THIS IS ALL JUST FOR A RESIDENTIAL.
I SHOULDN'T SAY JUST FOR RESIDENTIAL, BUT.
DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS A PLAN MOVING FORWARD AT SOME POINT TO APPLY THESE STANDARDS TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT? WHY NOT? SO, I MEAN, IN THE ZONING CODE, IT'S JUST IN TERMS OF A DENSITY BONUS AND UNITS THAT REALLY APPLIES MOSTLY TO RESIDENTIAL.
AND OF COURSE, THIS INCORPORATES MIXED USE, WHICH HAS SOME ELEMENT OF COMMERCIAL.
BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME OTHER OR SOME OTHER INCENTIVE, I GUESS, BUT I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY WORTH THE EFFORT TO SUPPORT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND MOVE THOSE IDEAS FORWARD.
I MEAN, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS WE WANT TO SEE ON DEVELOPMENT CASES.
WE COULD INCENTIVIZE THOSE THROUGH SOME OTHER MEANS.
THAT'S TRUE. RIGHT, I CAN SEE THAT.
OK. ARE THERE ANY OTHER, I GUESS, I'LL ASK FOR IF THERE'S ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M LOOKING AT THE PARTICIPANT LIST AND THERE'S NOT VERY MANY OF US HERE, SO I DON'T SEE ANYBODY, BUT IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS OTHER THAN THAT ONE.
HOW CAN YOU RAISE YOUR HAND OR LET ME KNOW.
OK, SO THIS IS JUST A WORK SESSION, SO WE'LL BE SEEING THIS AGAIN IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
AND THERE'S NOTHING FOR US TO DO HERE TODAY.
YOU CAN ALL, WE CAN ALL PUT OUR THINKING CAPS ON AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY MODIFICATIONS WE'D LIKE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
SO THAT'S THAT LEAVES US WITH MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS TO AND FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS.
[6. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS TO/FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS]
SO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING FOR STAFF.YEAH, I SENT AN EMAIL TO STAFF EARLIER TODAY JUST LETTING EVERYONE KNOW THAT MY TERM ON P AND Z HAS EXPIRED AND I WILL BE PUTTING P AND Z DOWN.
SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE, JUST WORKING WITH EVERYBODY OVER THE YEARS ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES UP IN FRONT OF OUR COMMISSION HAS BEEN A REALLY GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME IN TERMS OF LOCAL GOVERNANCE AND COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION AND THE WHOLE NINE.
SO I JUST REALLY WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME AND SEND US SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO
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CHAIRPERSON ZIMMERMAN AND CHAIRPERSON WHEELER MARGO WHEELER FOR JUST GIVING ME A SENSE OF DECORUM AND PROFESSIONALISM.IT'S BEEN REALLY NICE, SO I'VE LOVED WORKING WITH EVERYBODY AND HEARING YOUR FEEDBACK.
THANKS, ERIC AND ALEX, I THINK YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT, TOO.
YES. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ERIC FOR HIS SERVICE, AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO OUR JOBS WITHOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU VOLUNTEERING, AND IT'S REALLY APPRECIATED AND IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THANK YOU, ERIC AND ALL THE BEST TO YOU.
AND IN THAT SAME VEIN, WE'LL BE SEEING SOME CHANGES COMING.
WE HAVE NEW COMMISSIONER APPOINTMENTS ON FEBRUARY 1ST.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO TO COUNCIL, SO WE'LL HAVE HOPEFULLY IF ALL GOES WELL, WE'LL HAVE SOME, SOME NEW MEMBERS.
DAVID ZIMMERMAN IS OUR CURRENT CHAIR, BUT HIS HE'S SERVED FOR AT LEAST TWO FULL TERMS, SO HE'S CAN'T REAPPLY AT THIS POINT.
SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR A NEW CHAIR.
I'M GOING TO PUT THAT ON THE ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR US TO DISCUSS, BUT I WANT TO MENTION IT NOW SORT OF INFORMALLY SO THAT YOU CAN START THINKING ABOUT IF YOU HAVE THE DESIRE TO BE A CHAIR OR ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES YOU THINK WOULD MAKE AN EXCELLENT CHAIR.
START THINKING ABOUT ABOUT THAT.
YES, I WANT TO THANK ERIN ERIC FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE P AND Z, AND THIS COULD BE MY LAST MEETING TOO. MY TIME IS UP, BUT I HAVE REAPPLIED, SO I'LL HAVE TO WAIT TILL TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON FEBRUARY 1ST.
AND BUT ERIC, THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, VOICING YOUR OPINION AND LETTING US KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF WASTE MANAGEMENT AND SUCH BECAUSE BEFORE JOINING THE COMMISSION, WHILE I WAS AWARE OF IT, YOU CERTAINLY BROUGHT MY AWARENESS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CAROLE, AND THANK YOU, ALEX.
AND I WOULD ECHO THE SAME THING, ERIC, IT'S REALLY BEEN GREAT TO HAVE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THE COMMISSION AND TO I THINK YOU'VE HAD A WONDERFUL WAY OF BRINGING FORWARD SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF VALUES AND HOW THEY WORK IN IMPRACTICAL WAYS WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY DECIDING ON CASES.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS AS A COMMISSIONER.
THANKS, GARY. I APPRECIATE YOU TOO.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF TO COMMISSION? I JUST WANT TO MENTION COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ HARASSED ME ABOUT HE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET TOGETHER, SO I AM STILL PLANNING SOME SORT OF COMMISSIONER MINGLE EVENT.
DON'T WORRY, I'M GOING TO HARASS YOU TO COME EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE COMMISSION ANYMORE. BUT JUST THE WAY THINGS ARE RIGHT NOW AND HOW COLD IT IS OUTSIDE.
I JUST THOUGHT WE MIGHT GIVE IT A LITTLE A FEW MORE WEEKS.
SO BEAR WITH ME AND WE'LL DO SOMETHING FUN EVENTUALLY.
OK, GREAT, YEAH, I'D BE NICE TO BE A LITTLE BIT WARMER AND ALSO HAVE THIS COVID WIND DOWN A LITTLE BIT. SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE CAN ADJOURN 4:30.
THAT'S GOT TO BE SOME KIND OF RECORD.
THANKS.
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