[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the Heritage Preservation Commission and to the general public that, at this regular meeting, the Heritage Preservation Commission may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]
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THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THIS MARCH 16TH MEETING OF THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION.ROLL CALL. DAVID HAYWARD IS EXCUSED.
AT THIS TIME, IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HAS A COMMENT FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED, YOU ARE WELCOME TO TALK.
ALL RIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY.
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Approve the Minutes of the February 16, 2021 Heritage Preservation Commission Meeting.]
SO LET'S MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 16, 2021? I MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 16, 2021.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HORN AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER DEA ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. I OWE THE OPPOSED.
ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
[A. Headline Salon small Facade Grant PROPERTY INFORMATION: Address: 113 E Aspen Ave Assessor's Parcel Number: Property Owner: Sandra Tann Applicant: Tesano Contracting City Staff: MR HPO REQUESTED ACTION: A request for a $900 Facade Grant RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve a facade grant for up to $900 at 113 E Aspen Street with the condition of no adverse effect to the historic character of the building by working with the HPO for compliance.]
WE HAVE OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM FOR THE HEADLINE SUPPORT SALON, SMALL FACADE GRANT.MADAM CHAIRMAN, IF YOU RECALL THIS, WE HAD A FAIRLY LENGTHY DISCUSSION AND A PRESENTATION BY THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE WINDOW REPLACEMENT AT 113 EAST ASPEN AVENUE, AND THEY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WAS REQUIRED FOR HERITAGE COMPLIANCE.
SO WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT ADDITIONAL MILL WORK THAT THEY HAD TO DO ON THE PROJECT.
SO ON A 5050 BASIS FOR OUR FACADE GRANT PROGRAM, PROVIDING $900 TOWARD THAT EFFORT. ON THE PROJECT.
ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT? IF NOT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THE MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM? ANYONE? NO, THAT WAS JUST ME.
SORRY. I FIGURED WE WENT THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT, THE CONTRACTOR, AND IT WAS RATHER THOROUGH.
SO THIS IS SO THIS IS JUST BASICALLY TAKING THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE APPROVED AND APPROVING GRANT FUNDING FOR IT.
CORRECT. JUST FOR THAT ADDITIONAL EXTENSIVE WORK ON THE PRIMARY WINDOWS BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL DIDN'T FIT WITH THE DOWNTOWN REQUIREMENTS.
RIGHT. AND THEN THEY MET THOSE AND DID A PRESENTATION.
OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? I'M NOT SAYING ANY OF THE QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? THIS IS COMMISSIONER DALE MOTION TO APPROVE A FACADE GRANT FOR UP TO $900 AT 113 EAST ASPEN STREET, WITH THE CONDITION OF NO ADVERSE EFFECT TO THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING. BY WORKING WITH THE HPO FOUR COMPLIANCE.
THIS IS COMMISSIONER KELLY ALL SECOND.
RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER DEA AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER KELLY.
THANK YOU. I'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE WORK.
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE'RE MOVING ON TO GENERAL BUSINESS.
[A. Flagstaff Regional Plan Update Scoping and SWOT Analysis Have HPO present Regional Plan Update and HPC participate in the SWOT (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, and Threats)]
AND SARA WE ARE MOVING GENERAL BUSINESS A ON THE FLAGSTAFF REGIONAL PLAN TO NEXT MONTH, CORRECT? VICE CHAIR DALE, WE ARE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT MATERIAL TODAY.THE REASON WE WERE THINKING OF POSTPONING IT WAS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE WOULDN'T HAVE A
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FULL QUORUM LIKE THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE PRETTY TIGHT ON ATTENDANCE TODAY, BUT WE CAN WE COULD GO AHEAD AND DO THE PRESENTATION IF YOU WOULD LIKE, AND WE COULD EITHER START THE SWOT PROCESS OR CONTINUE IT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.I GUESS MY MAIN QUESTION IS IS IT IMPORTANT THAT DAVID OUR CHAIR BE HERE FOR THAT.
PERHAPS WE COULD DO THE PRESENTATION AND THEN NEXT WEEK, NEXT MONTH, COME BACK AND DO THE STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS, ANALYSIS.
AND THAT WAY EVERYONE CAN PARTICIPATE.
BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION IS OPEN UP A DIGITAL WHITEBOARD, WHICH WILL CONSTITUTE AN ELECTRONIC QUORUM OF THE COMMISSION.
SO ONCE WE DO THAT, WE CAN'T WORK ON IT BETWEEN COMMISSION MEETINGS.
WE CAN ONLY WORK ON IT DURING COMMISSION MEETINGS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. SO WE WOULD DO THE PRESENTATION NOW AND WORK ON IT AT THE NEXT MEETING? YES, WE COULD. WE COULD SPLIT IT THAT WAY IF YOU WANTED TO WAIT SO THAT CHAIR HAYWARD COULD ALSO PARTICIPATE.
YEAH. BUT THEN YOU GUYS WOULD BE EVEN MORE PREPARED TO MAYBE HAVE THE DISCUSSION MORE QUICKLY NEXT MONTH.
CAN WE TAKE A VOTE OF THE COMMISSIONERS OR AM I MAKING THIS DECISION? THE COMMISSIONER DALE.
I MEAN OR VICE CHAIR DALE? YES. SORRY, THIS IS COMMISSIONER HORN.
I JUST WANT TO SAY I WOULD SUPPORT DOING THE THE SWOT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
I KNOW I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE A LITTLE MORE TIME JUST TO DIG INTO THE 2030 REGIONAL PLAN BEFORE WE DO THAT. BUT I'D SUPPORT DOING THE PRESENTATION TODAY IF EVERYBODY ELSE WANTED TO. I SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. SO WE WILL DO THE PRESENTATION TODAY AND THEN DO THE ANALYSIS WHITEBOARD WORKSHOP NEXT TIME.
GREAT. LET ME GO AHEAD AND I WILL SHARE THE PRESENTATION.
AND I BELIEVE MARK IS GOING TO ACTUALLY WALK YOU THROUGH THE SLIDES.
IS THAT CORRECT? WHEN GREATNESS IS THRUST UPON YOU.
[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND I'LL CHIME IN IF YOU NEED ME AT ALL.
SO. OKAY. AND YOU'RE ADVANCING THE SLIDES, CORRECT? YES. JUST SAY NEXT SLIDE AND I'LL GO.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE REGIONAL PLAN? TALKING ABOUT THE 2030 PLAN, WHAT IS BEING DONE TO UPDATE THE REGIONAL PLAN? AND WE'RE DELAYING THE SWOT ANALYSIS UNTIL NEXT MEETING.
NEXT. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT A REGIONAL PLAN IS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF A REGIONAL PLAN, IT IS THE TOP OF THIS PYRAMID.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS BASED UPON THE REGIONAL PLAN WHEN SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS HAPPEN PARKS, RECREATION, UTILITIES, TRANSPORTATION.
THEN THOSE SPECIFIC PLANS MOVE ON TO IMPLEMENTATION.
SO IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT THE REGIONAL PLAN DOES REPRESENT GOALS AND POLICIES OF HERITAGE PRESERVATION.
NEXT. SO WHY IS IT REGIONAL? IT INCLUDES CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND AN AREA OF COCONINO COUNTY WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE DO LIVE.
SO IN FLAGSTAFF, IT SERVES AS THE GENERAL PLAN.
IT MUST BE RATIFIED BY THE VOTERS EVERY TEN YEARS.
AND IT SUPPORTS LAND USE DECISIONS, POLICY MAKING, WATER SUPPLY AND AGAIN, TRANSPORTATION. IN COCONINO COUNTY.
IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AND IT PROVIDES A MAP OF AREAS AND PLACES AND TYPES THAT IS FURTHER REFINED BY AREA PLANS. NEXT.
IT IS COMPREHENSIVE AND COMPLEX.
SO WE THINK A LOT ABOUT THE MAPPING, ANYTHING FROM ACTIVITY CENTERS TO TRANSPORTATION ROUTES TO LAND USE.
TWO HISTORIC DISTRICTS, BY THE WAY.
NEXT PLEASE. SO WHAT DID THE PUBLIC WANT FROM THE 2030 PLAN?
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HOLD THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE FOR PUBLICLY DERIVED POLICY OUTCOMES AND GOALS.GUIDE PHYSICAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
ESTABLISH PRIORITIES FOR PUBLIC ACTION, THE DIRECTION FOR COMPLEMENTARY PRIVATE DECISIONS, AND ENCOURAGE PREDICTABLE DECISION MAKING.
NEXT. THE CURRENT REGIONAL PLAN HAS 97 GOALS AND 508 POLICIES, WHICH IS RATHER EXTENSIVE.
THERE'S SOME THOUGHT ABOUT SIMPLIFYING THESE.
THERE'S GENERALIZED LAND USE MAPS THAT CLEARLY IDENTIFY ACTIVITY CENTERS.
IT'S A BASIS FOR TRANSPORTATION MODELING.
AGAIN, THERE'S AN EMPHASIS ON MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION AND ALSO OUR WATER SUPPLY.
NEXT. WHEN WE LOOK AT WHERE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL RESOURCES ARE WITHIN THE CURRENT PLAN, THERE'S OPEN SPACE.
SO OPEN LAND PROTECT BOTH NATURAL AND CULTURAL AND ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES.
KIND OF A SYNOPSIS OF THOSE GOALS AND POLICIES ARE PRESERVE, RESTORE AND REHABILITATE HERITAGE RESOURCES PER KNOWN BENEFITS FOR UNIQUE RESOURCES AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES DESIGNED AS SENSITIVE TO THE HISTORIC RESOURCE AND SITES AND FOR NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING AND URBAN CONSERVATION.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR HEALTHY AND DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
RESPECT TRADITIONAL ELEMENTS OF DESIGN WITH AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE IMPORTANCE OF DOWNTOWN. NEXT.
IT IS LAND USE IS TO BALANCE HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT WITH PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION OF OUR UNIQUE NATURAL AND CULTURAL SETTINGS.
VALUING HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS AS WALKABLE, ADAPTABLE AT THE CORE OF THE COMMUNITY.
NEXT. SO EVEN THOUGH WE'VE PULLED OUT THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT ARE IN THE PLAN, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT THERE IS A RELATIONSHIP TO THESE OTHER ASPECTS OF THE PLAN ALL THE WAY FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, CIVIC SPACES, CLIMATE CHANGE, GATEWAYS, INFILL, LIVE WORK, PLACEMAKING AND TOURISM.
SO. THERE'S A POTENTIAL TO LINK INTO SOME OF THESE OTHER AREAS THAT ARE ALL CALLED OUT IN THE REGIONAL PLAN.
WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW IS PHASE ONE GETTING CURIOUS AND GAINING AN UNDERSTANDING.
SO WE'VE ARE DOING OUTREACH TO OUR VARIOUS COMMISSIONS.
WE'RE COLLECTING THAT INFORMATION AND WE ARE ALSO CURRENTLY WITH THE LAST ITEM, CREATE ART AND EXCITEMENT.
WE HAVE DEVELOPED AND SECURED A ARTIST EDUCATOR TO DEVELOP SIX UNIQUE LITTLE ART BOXES THAT WILL HOPEFULLY GIVE US SOME LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND OUR FOCUSED IN KIND OF A KID LIKE EFFORT TO DISCOVER THINGS WE HAVEN'T DISCOVERED YET.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TESTING THOSE OUT ON FRIDAY AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING ADDITIONAL OUTREACH ON THAT.
WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS OF A REGIONAL PLAN? IT IS COMPLEX AND COMPREHENSIVE, SO PULLING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER IS GOING TO TAKE SEVERAL YEARS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.
AND THAT'S WHERE OUR SMALL LITTLE CORE GROUP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING TEAM IS GOING TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO PULL THAT ALL TOGETHER.
NEXT. DATA ANALYSIS AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO INCLUDE, YOU CAN SEE, IS COMPLICATED.
IT REQUIRES MANAGING THE DATA, LOOKING WITHIN AND BEYOND THE PLAN, CURRENT PLAN, AND
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LOOKING TOWARD PLANNING WITH SENSITIVITY TESTING TO ENSURE LONGEVITY AND FLEXIBILITY OF THE PLAN. AGAIN, MASTER PLANS ARE FLEXIBLE AND THEY ARE A STARTING POINT FOR EVERYTHING.EMERGING ISSUES CERTAINLY CARBON NEUTRALITY, WITH A STRONG EMPHASIS ON BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN. CLIMATE CHANGE.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING.
EQUITY AND INCLUSION, NEW HOUSING AFFORDABILITY STRATEGIES.
I WOULD ALSO ADD ADAPTED FOR USE OF OUR CURRENT HOUSING STOCK.
PUBLIC HEALTH IS IMPORTANT AND CERTAINLY TECHNOLOGICAL CHANGES WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON WHAT IS GOING TO BE DONE AND WHAT WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO.
AND COMMUNICATION, BROADBAND, HOW WE GO INTO THE NEXT DECADES ARE GOING TO BE IMPORTANT ASPECTS. NEXT.
SO, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, TO CALL SARA FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS.
AND ALSO MELISSA SHAW AS THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE, I PROBABLY HOPPED OVER THAT MAP TOO FAST THAT RECTANGLE WAS THE REGION THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
SO. UP NORTH TO SUNSET CRATER AND PAST FORT NAVAJO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE BOUNDARIES NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST THAT WE HAVE.
WE'RE GOING TO HOLD OFF ON THE SWOT ANALYSIS, BUT MAYBE YOU COULD JUST FLIP.
CAN YOU FLIP TO THAT SCREEN? I'LL HAND IT OVER, BUT.
JUST SO YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT SWOT ANALYSIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT.
SURE. SO THE REASON WE ARE GOING TO MANY COMMISSIONS RIGHT NOW AND GOING OVER THIS PRESENTATION IS THAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO AN ANALYSIS WITH YOU THAT RISK ASSESSMENT PEOPLE ARE REALLY FAMILIAR WITH CALLED A SWOT ANALYSIS.
AND WHAT WE WILL DO NEXT TIME IS I WILL INVITE YOU TO COME TO A DIGITAL WHITEBOARD LIKE THIS WHERE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ASSESS THE CURRENT PLAN FOR ITS STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES, AND THEN DESCRIBE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS YOU SEE TO RESOURCES, HERITAGE RESOURCES IN PARTICULAR, BUT MAYBE OTHER ISSUES AS WELL THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN, IN TERMS OF UPDATING THE REGIONAL PLAN.
AND WE'VE BEEN USING THIS TOOL TO GET FEEDBACK FROM, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE COMMISSION NUMBER SIX THAT WE'LL PUT YOU ACTUALLY LATER IN THE ROTATION BY KIND OF WAITING A LITTLE BIT. AND SO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH THE REGIONAL PLAN, PARTICULARLY THE COMMUNITY CHARACTER SECTION AND THE DOWNTOWN AND CENTRAL FLAGSTAFF GOALS AND POLICIES FOR OUR URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
THOSE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THINKING ABOUT OUR HERITAGE PRESERVATION, RESOURCES AND PROGRAM. AND SO THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN EARLY AND HELP US DEFINE THE SCOPE OF OUR REGIONAL PLAN UPDATE.
DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ON THIS PROCESS OR FOR MARK AND I BOTH ON THE PRESENTATION MATERIAL? STOP SHARING. SO, SARA, THIS WILL BE LIKE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC.
NOPE. THIS WILL BE DONE IN THE PUBLIC FORUM.
IT'LL JUST BE YOU ALL PROVIDING THE BASICALLY, LIKE A DISCUSSION, BUT IN A MORE ORGANIZED, FACILITATED WAY AS OPPOSED TO THE MORE OPEN DISCUSSIONS A LOT OF COMMISSIONS HAVE. BUT THIS LETS US TAKE THE SAME KIND OF EXERCISE ACROSS 20 COMMISSIONS AND GET A VERY, SEE HOW MUCH OVERLAP THERE IS, WHAT THINGS COME UP ON MULTIPLE COMMISSION MINDSETS BECAUSE EVERY COMMISSION, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY HAS, HAS A PARTICULAR MISSION AND THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME DISCUSSING HOW THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY WORKS OR ISN'T WORKING AND WHAT CAN BE BETTER ABOUT IT.
AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO GATHER ALL OF THAT AS PART OF THE INITIAL PROJECT SCOPE.
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GREAT. THANKS. MADAM CHAIR, SOME PEOPLE GET A LITTLE AFRAID OF DOING THIS.THIS IS VERY INITIAL COLLECTING, EARLY INFORMATION.
SO WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BE CREATIVE AND JUST STATE WHAT THEY THINK IN THIS ANALYSIS.
IT JUST HELPS US OUT WITH EARLY INFORMATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, CAN WE MOVE ON?
[B. Flagstaff Festival of Science 2022 Gauge interest in the Commission participating in the Flagstaff Festival of Science and ideas for workshops or events that the Commission could host.]
ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO GENERAL BUSINESS NUMBER TWO, THE FLAGSTAFF FESTIVAL OF SCIENCE. GREAT.WE WANTED TO MAKE THE COMMISSION AWARE THAT THE 2022 FESTIVAL OF SCIENCE HAS ANNOUNCED THAT THEIR THEME IS GOING TO BE PYRAMIDS TO THE PEAKS, AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A PARTICULAR FOCUS ON PRESERVATION SCIENCE AND SCIENCE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE PRESERVATION FIELD AS PART OF THEIR KEYNOTE AND MANY OTHER PARTS OF THE FESTIVAL OF SCIENCE AGENDA FOR SEPTEMBER 2022.
SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OR FOR THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION ITSELF TO HOST AN EVENT, A WORKSHOP, A TALK, A TRIP, OR ANOTHER PROGRAM.
THE SUBMITTAL DATE FOR DOING SO WOULD BE JUNE 1ST, 2022.
AND SO LECTURE, THERE'S OPTIONS TO DO LECTURES WHICH SHOULD BE SCHEDULED FROM 4:00 TO 6:30 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, OPEN HOUSES AND FIELD TRIPS AND THEN WORKSHOPS ON MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AFTER 4:00.
THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN SCIENCE IN THE PARK OR IN SCHOOL PRESENTATIONS, WHICH HAS ITS OWN SIGNUP FORM.
BUT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSION TO MEET ONE OF ITS PURPOSES, WHICH IS EDUCATION ON HERITAGE PRESERVATION IN THE COMMUNITY SINCE OUR MISSION AND THE THEME OF THIS YEAR'S FESTIVAL OF SCIENCE ALIGNED SO WELL.
SO WE WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND SEE IF THERE WAS ANY DESIRE TO AGENDIZE, FUTURE DISCUSSIONS ON THAT FOR BRAINSTORMING OR OTHER IDEAS.
BUT IT'S A GREAT WAY YOU GUYS CAN, AS A COMMISSION, OF COURSE, VOLUNTEER TOGETHER.
IF YOU HAD SOMETHING THAT WE WERE DOING, WE WOULD JUST ADVERTISE A QUORUM.
THAT'S IT'S PERFECTLY ALLOWABLE.
SO, YEAH, THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATION AND OUTREACH AND WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION. WE'D LIKE TO DO IT WITH YOU.
I THINK AS STAFF, STAFF COULD SUBMIT A FEW THINGS ON OUR OWN, BUT WE'D LOVE TO KNOW IF THE COMMISSION'S INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING IN DOING THIS ALL TOGETHER.
I THINK IT'D BE COOL IF WE DID SOME WALKING TOURS OF LIKE THE SOUTH SIDE OR THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICTS. I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST, LIKE THEY'VE DONE GEOLOGY TOURS, BUT TO DO LIKE A HISTORIC TOUR I THINK WOULD PROBABLY BE PRETTY POPULAR.
YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO.
I THINK IT WOULD BE NEAT TO ALSO MAYBE DO SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF, YOU KNOW, VISITING SOME OF THE PROJECTS WHERE WE'VE HAD FUNDING FROM THE COMMISSION GO FORWARD AND ASSIST WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ON SOME OF THE BUILDINGS.
IF WE COULD WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO, YOU KNOW, GO OUT AND AROUND AND SEE SOME OF THE WORK ON THE GROUND THAT'S BEEN DONE AND FUNDED BY THE COMMISSION.
YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING, TOO, CHARLIE, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
YEAH, I THINK THAT COULD BE REALLY NEAT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE A LOT OF THESE THINGS, I HAVEN'T SEEN BEYOND SOME PICTURES EITHER, SO.
RIGHT EXACTLY. IN THE FINISHED FORM.
OH, SORRY. I WAS GOING TO SAY, I THINK THAT STAFF COULD ASSIST IF THAT'S YOU KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANT TO KEEP THINKING OF IDEAS, TOO.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO STICK TO ONE.
BUT WE COULD PULL TOGETHER A LIST OF ONES THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTING OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT PARTICULAR KINDS OF SCIENCE AND BRING THAT
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BACK AND SEE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK.YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY.
AND SARA, I THINK WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT PROJECTS THAT WERE FUNDED? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY THAT WOULD SPECIFICALLY HAVE AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY COMPONENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I CAN'T THINK OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE LOOKING AT IT THAT WAY.
WELL, THE MONTE VISTA HAS THE EARTHQUAKE SEISMIC STUFF GOING ON LIKE THEY SEISMICALLY REINFORCED ENTRYWAYS TO THE BUILDING.
WE COULD ALSO PUT TOGETHER LIKE A LITTLE BROCHURE, LIKE FOR ALL THE SIGNS THAT WE DID AND LIKE, GO LOOK AT LIKE THE WHISPERING WINDS.
LIKE, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE HARD TO DO A LIKE WALKING TOUR DOWN THERE BUT WE COULD PUT TOGETHER, LIKE, HERE'S A BUNCH OF THE SIGNS WE APPROVED.
LIKE, YOU CAN GO ON YOUR OWN TOUR.
YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
IF THINGS AREN'T, YOU KNOW, EASILY ACCESSIBLE FOR A WALKING TOUR, COULD WE PUT TOGETHER SOME SORT OF INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, WHERE IF THEY DID THEIR OWN WALKING TOUR, THEY'RE GETTING SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF PAPER'S THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT, BUT OR IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF AUDIO? I DON'T KNOW. THAT MIGHT BE TOO.
THAT MIGHT BE LIKE AIMING REALLY HIGH.
BUT YEAH, IT WOULD BE KIND OF COOL EVEN JUST FOR OUR, YOU KNOW, JUST TO HAVE IT IN AN ARCHIVE SOMEWHERE OF THESE LIKE EXAMPLES WHERE SOMEBODY COULD TAKE THEMSELVES ON THEIR OWN TOUR.
MATERIAL ON THE SCIENCE OF NEON AND WE HAVE WE COULD ALWAYS TIE THAT TO OUR HISTORIC SIGNS. SARA, WASN'T THERE SOMETHING AT SOME POINT ABOUT LIKE AN AUDIO TOUR OF EARLY NASA SITES IN THE CITY? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THAT OR I DON'T REMEMBER EVER HEARING AN OUTCOME ABOUT THAT. I SEEM TO RECALL SOMEONE WORKING ON THAT.
WAS THAT LINKED TO THE FLAGSTAFF FESTIVAL OF SCIENCE? WHAT WAS IT TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THEY DID WHEN IT WAS ASTRONAUT THEMED? YEAH. YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME WORKING WITH THE COMMISSION AND THE PROGRAM, SO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
RIGHT. [LAUGHTER] SO MAYBE IN LIKE TWO MONTHS THAT WOULD BE MAY.
SO ABOUT A MONTH BEFORE THE DUE DATE WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER BRAINSTORMING.
OR YOU GUYS COULD PRESENT US WITH SOME OF THE THINGS YOU CAME UP WITH AND WE COULD DO THE SAME. WE ARE LISTENING.
WE WILL. WE'LL PUT OUR THINKING CAPS ON.
YES. AND WE COULD DEFINITELY AGENDIZE SOME IDEAS FOR THE MAY AGENDA IF ANYBODY THINKS OF ANYTHING REALLY EXCITING FROM THE PRESERVATION SCIENCE STANDPOINT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN THOUGH, PLEASE EMAIL MARK AND I AND WE CAN DIG AROUND AND LOOK AND LOOK FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. I THINK WHAT I HEARD IS LOOK THROUGH OUR GRANTS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY INTERESTING CONSTRUCTION SCIENCE THINGS WE CAN PULL IN AND LIKE HIGHLIGHTING PROJECTS WHERE WE'VE LIKE HELPED WITH THE FOUNDATION WORK OR OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO LEARN.
AND THEN THINK ABOUT OUR HISTORIC SIGNS AND I'LL REACH OUT TO THOSE NEON PRESERVATION FOLKS BECAUSE I BET THEY'VE GOT SOME INTERESTING THINGS ON NEON, WHICH OF COURSE WOULD BE PART OF OUR ROUTE 66 ERA STUFF.
AND THEN LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND IF THERE WAS EVER THAT TOUR OF THE NASA LOCATIONS IN TOWN AND HOW THAT MIGHT BE USABLE.
ANY OTHER THINGS YOU WANT US TO LOOK INTO BEFORE MAY? WE COULD ALSO LOOK INTO TALKING TO LIKE THE MURDOCH CENTER AND DO LIKE A JOINT LIKE TOUR OF THE SOUTH SIDE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND SEE IF THERE'S OTHER GROUPS WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN PARTNERING.
WE CAN REACH OUT TO SOUTH SIDE AS WELL.
AND THERE'S DEFINITELY AN EASY ROUTE FROM CITY HALL TO THE SOUTH SIDE AND PICK UP SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS.
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SO I THINK I HEARD WALKING TOUR AS WELL.ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WE MOVE ON TO REPORTS.
[7. REPORTS]
AND ANY THAT STAND OUT FOR YOU HERE, MARK, YOU'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT? JUST DAY TO DAY CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, ARCHEOLOGICAL MONITORING THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.SO. UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING THAT REALLY STANDS OUT.
IT'S JUST TYPICAL REVIEWS ALONG THE WAY.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ANY OF THOSE?
[8. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS TO/FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS]
MOVING ON TO MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS TO OR FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? SARA. THE ONLY THINGS THAT I HAVE ARE REMINDERS THAT WE STILL HAVE A VACANCY TO FILL.
AND SO IF YOU CAN THINK OF ANYONE WHO WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR THE COMMISSION AND IT'S ONE OF THE POSITIONS THAT COULD BE AN AT LARGE MEMBER.
SO IT CAN REALLY BE ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO I THINK WOULD JUST BE INTERESTED IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
MARK AND I HAVE DONE SOME OUTREACH WITH THE REALTORS ASSOCIATION AND A FEW OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TRYING TO GET SOME INTEREST.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE YET TO SEND ANYONE TO APPOINTMENT.
WE ALSO, I BELIEVE THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE WHO NEED TO APPLY FOR REAPPOINTMENT, INCLUDING COMMISSIONER WEBBER.
SO I WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT LIST WITH WITH STACY, THE CITY CLERK.
AND IF YOU NEED TO APPLY FOR REAPPOINTMENT, I WILL SEND YOU AN EMAIL NEXT WEEK.
OKAY. THAT'D BE GREAT. YES, I'M SURE YOU'RE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO EXPIRED THIS FALL, AND I JUST REALIZED IT LAST MONTH.
SO MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT NOTICING IN THE FALL.
IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT HARD, RIGHT? I THINK OTHER THINGS GOING ON WITH HERITAGE PRESERVATION ARE BASICALLY MICHELLE MCNULTY, WHO'S OUR NEW PLANNING DIRECTOR, IS REVIEWING OUR AGENDAS EVERY MONTH.
AND SO THAT ADDS A LITTLE TIME.
SO I THINK YOU PROBABLY WILL START NOTICING YOU'RE GETTING AGENDAS ON THURSDAYS INSTEAD OF WEDNESDAYS, AS IS TYPICAL.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'VE ADDED ONE ADDITIONAL REVIEW TO OUR PROCESS WHERE SHE'S JUST REVIEWING THE AGENDA OVERALL AND ASKING US QUESTIONS TO HELP INCREASE HER FAMILIARITY WITH WHAT THE COMMISSION IS DOING.
ANY OTHER THINGS TO ADD, MARK? NO, I'M GOOD.
ANYTHING FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS? [INAUDIBLE] I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT CITY COUNCIL WENT BACK IN PERSON.
AND SO I JUST WAS WONDERING IF AND WHEN WE DECIDE TO DO THAT, HOW MUCH NOTICE, JUST SO LIKE FOR PLANNING, DO YOU THINK THAT WE'LL BE GIVEN? I HOPE WE'RE GIVEN ENOUGH NOTICE THAT STAFF HAS TIME TO BE TRAINED IN THE NEW EQUIPMENT IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS FROM THE REENTRY TEAM MOST RECENTLY, IS THAT COMMISSIONS WILL CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE HYBRID MEETINGS.
AND SO WHILE WE WILL GATHER IN CHAMBERS FOR THOSE WHO CAN, YOU WILL STILL BE ABLE TO JOIN REMOTELY. AND SO, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU'RE RUNNING LATE, YOU CAN JOIN REMOTELY AND THEN ARRIVE AT CITY HALL.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME ISSUES OF PARKING TO BE WORKED OUT.
I KNOW ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAD AND WE SENT UP THROUGH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WAS, ARE WE GETTING PARKING PASSES FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONERS? DO YOU HAVE TO ATTEND? DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN PERSON OR IS IT JUST THE CHAIR, THE VICE CHAIR THAT HAS TO BE THERE? WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S BEEN RECENTLY USED BY COUNCIL TO ALLOW FOR HYBRID MEETINGS.
SO WE ARE ALL GOING TO NEED TRAINING ON THAT.
AND SO, YEAH, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I THINK THAT STAFF HAS TO AND WE'VE NOT BEEN GIVEN FULL ANSWERS.
WE'VE DEFINITELY SENT THE MESSAGE UP THE CHAIN TO THE CITY MANAGER THAT WE WANT TO MAKE
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SURE WE DON'T GET RUSHED INTO DOING IT BEFORE WE'RE ACTUALLY READY.SO I ANTICIPATE WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST A MONTH'S NOTICE, BUT WE'RE STILL AWAITING THE NEWS ON THAT. THANK YOU.
UP UNTIL NOW, I WILL ADD THAT THEY HAD STATED THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE COMMISSION MEETINGS IN PERSON UNTIL CITY HALL WAS BACK TO NORMAL HOURS.
I THINK EVEN THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS DISCUSSING PRETTY THOROUGHLY BECAUSE SOME OF OUR COUNTERS ARE NOT FULLY STAFFED ANYMORE.
THEY'VE HAD WE'VE HAD TURNOVER IN A LOT OF POSITIONS, AS HAVE MANY IN THE GREAT RECESSION. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE SERVICES IN THE HOURS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT WANT TO BE OPEN FOR.
SO I KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE IMPORTANT AND IT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT REENTRY.
BUT I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR ANSWER YET.
IF I GET AN EMAIL, THOUGH, FROM THE CITY CLERK WITH A CLEAR ANSWER, I WILL EMAIL IT OUT TO THE COMMISSION. I WON'T WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING TO KEEP YOU UP TO DATE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS? ALL RIGHT, THEN I ADJOURN THIS MEETING OF THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION ON MARCH 16TH AT 4:36 P.M.
BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.