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OH. OKAY. NOW WE'RE REALLY READY.

OKAY. DID YOU HEAR HER? YES. OKAY, PERFECT.

[1. Call to Order]

OKAY. SO I'LL CALL THE WEDNESDAY, MARCH 23RD, 2023 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER. CAN WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?

[2. Roll Call NOTE: One or more Commission Members may be in attendance telephonically or by other technological means. MARIE JONES, VICE CHAIR MARY NORTON CAROLE MANDINO DR. RICARDO GUTHRIE DR. ALEX MARTINEZ BOB HARRIS III LLOYD PAUL ]

MARIE JONES.

PRESENT. ALEX MARTINEZ.

HERE. BOB HARRIS.

HERE. RICARDO GUTHRIE.

MARY NORTON.

PRESENT. LLOYD PAUL.

CAROLE MANDINO.

PRESENT. THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE A QUORUM.

CORRECT. OKAY.

THE NEXT ITEM, NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT.

AT THIS TIME, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY SUBJECT WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON THAT DAY.

DUE TO OPEN MEETING LAWS, THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR ACT ON ITEMS PRESENTED DURING THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON AN ITEM THAT IS ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE WAIT FOR THE CHAIR TO CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE TIME THE ITEM IS HEARD.

SO DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? I DON'T HEAR ANYBODY WAITING TO BE HEARD.

SO THE NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Approval of the minutes from the regular meeting on February 23, 2022.]

AND WE'LL NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF, LET ME SEE THE DATE.

THE FEBRUARY 23, 2022 MEETING AS WRITTEN.

THANK YOU. AND I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

DO WE HAVE ANY CHANGES? DISCUSSION, COMMENTS ON THIS? SO I'M NOT HEARING ANYBODY.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING.

OUR FIRST ITEM IS A CONDITIONAL USE.

YES. SORRY, THERE WAS NOT A VOTE.

OH, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T CALL FOR A VOTE.

YES. SO ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

AND IT PASSES.

SO NOW MOVING ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE

[A. Conditional Use Permit PZ-20-00023-04 Shamrock Food Warehouse: A Conditional Use Permit request from Shamrock Food Company to establish an 18,680 square-foot building to be used as a wholesale food store that is open to the public. The proposed use meets the definition of General Retail Business in the Zoning Code, which is permitted in the Light Industrial (LI) Zone with a Conditional Use Permit. The subject property is located at 3611 E Industrial Drive. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: In accordance with the findings presented in this report, staff recommends approval of PZ-20-00023-04 with the following conditions: The development of the site shall substantially conform to the plans as presented with the Conditional Use Permit application and with the Site Plan as approved by the Inter-Division Staff on January 4, 2022. Modifications to the approved site plan shall require additional review by the IDS team. ]

SHAMROCK FOOD WAREHOUSE.

CAN WE HAVE THE STAFF PRESENTATION, PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON.

THIS IS TIFFANY ANTOL.

ARE YOU SEEING MY SCREEN? YES. OKAY.

I'M GOING TO START MY SLIDE SHOW.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I DON'T SEE THAT MY APPLICANT IS HERE YET.

BUT LET'S PROCEED.

AND MAYBE THEY'LL SHOW UP.

SO TODAY I AM HERE TO PRESENT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FROM SHAMROCK FOOD COMPANY TO ESTABLISH AN 18,680 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING TO BE USED AS A WHOLESALE FOOD STORE THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

THE PROPOSED USE MEETS THE DEFINITION OF GENERAL RETAIL BUSINESS IN THE ZONING CODE, WHICH IS PERMITTED IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3611 EAST INDUSTRIAL DRIVE.

SO ON THIS MAP RIGHT HERE, I KNOW THIS ISN'T THE BEST MAP IN THE WORLD.

YOU'LL SEE FANNING DRIVE SORT OF COMES RIGHT INTO THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY.

IT IS THESE TWO PARCELS OF LAND WHICH WILL EVENTUALLY BE COMBINED IN ORDER TO PERMIT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

SO HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

SO WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THE THE OLD BUILDING GETS DEMOLISHED, WHICH WAS BUILT IN THE 1950S AS A GAS STATION AND THEN AN AUTO REPAIR SHOP.

THE EXACT DATE SHAMROCK ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY REALLY ISN'T KNOWN, BUT THEY'VE BEEN IN THE BUILDING PROBABLY SINCE THE EARLY 70S.

THE TRANSPORTATION DIVISION BEGAN WORKING WITH THEIR DAIRY DIVISION AT THIS LOCATION IN 2012, BUT CURRENTLY THE BUILDING IS ABOUT 85% VACANT.

THE BALANCE OF THEIR SPACE CONTAINS THREE OFFICES A CONFERENCE ROOM, A SMALL WORKSPACE USED BY DRIVER FOR RECHARGING, COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT AND SO FORTH.

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AND THERE IS A LIMITED BEVERAGE PRODUCT STORAGE.

THE REGIONAL SHAMROCK FOODS DAIRY DISTRIBUTION DELIVERS PRODUCT TO AND FROM THIS BUILDINGS IN THE MORNING.

AND THEN THESE GOODS ARE IMMEDIATELY TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER TRUCK VIA A CROSS DOCK FUNCTION FOR LOCAL DISTRIBUTION.

SO ESSENTIALLY THIS IS JUST IT OPERATES AS A LIMITED DISTRIBUTION FACILITY FOR SHAMROCK FARMS. THEY WOULD, HOWEVER, LIKE TO REUSE THIS BUILDING AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO REUSE THE BUILDING TO BUILD THIS 18,680 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, WHICH CAN ACCOMMODATE GENERAL RETAIL ON THE OVERALL 1.71 ACRE SITE.

SHAMROCK FOOD SERVICE WAREHOUSE STORES CATER TO THE RESTAURANT AND FOOD SERVICE INDUSTRY.

THEY ARE ALSO OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

THERE'S NO MEMBERSHIP REQUIRED AND ITEMS CAN BE PURCHASED INDIVIDUALLY OR IN BULK.

THEY HAVE REGULAR BUSINESS OPERATING HOURS MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY AND ON SUNDAY AS WELL.

AND THE PRODUCT MIX INCLUDES RESTAURANT SUPPLIES, DRY AND CANNED GOODS, DAIRY, FROZEN FOODS, AND PREPACKAGED MEAT.

ALL THE GOODS ARE SOLD PREPACKAGED.

THERE'S NO ONSITE PREP.

TIFFANY. SO HERE.

YES.

I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT CAN YOU HOLD ON FOR JUST A SECOND? I JUST REALIZED THAT YOUR APPLICANT AND SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THE WRONG LINK.

OH, NO. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT IN THIS MEETING.

GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. I'M GETTING THEM TO THIS MEETING.

SO CAN WE JUST PAUSE FOR JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE? YES. THANK YOU.

PLEASE HOLD. I WILL NOW SING ELEVATOR MUSIC.

I'M KIDDING. I WON'T DO THAT.

BUT I'M GOING TO GO BACK.

I FEEL AS IF I NEED TO ENTERTAIN THE CROWD.

[LAUGHTER] I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY.

WE'LL GET THIS ALL STRAIGHTENED OUT SOON.

IT'S NO PROBLEM.

YOU CAN AUDITION FOR YOUR SINGING AND DANCING.

YOU KNOW, IF I DIDN'T REALLY SING, LIKE, ALL OF THE TIME, I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT IT.

I SING WEIRD THINGS ALL OF THE TIME.

I TOOK VOICE LESSONS AND I CAN'T SING.

I DID, TOO, WHEN I WAS YOUNGER BECAUSE, I DON'T KNOW MY MOM WANTED ME TO BE THE NEXT SHIRLEY TEMPLE TO MAYBE TAKE TAP DANCING AND SINGING LESSONS.

[LAUGHTER] OH, I COULD PICTURE THAT.

HOW ABOUT A LITTLE TAP DANCE? OH, YEAH, I CAN DO IT.

[LAUGHTER] SHE USED TO DO MY HAIR IN RINGLETS, TOO.

THAT'S HILARIOUS.

I'LL BRING PICTURES NEXT TIME.

ALEX LIKES IT WHEN I BRING OUT PICTURES.

OKAY. I'M SORRY ABOUT THIS.

I HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING RIGHT NOW.

THEY SAID THAT IT DIDN'T LET THEM IN OVER HERE.

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SO GIVE THEM JUST A MINUTE TO.

I TOLD THEM I WAS COMING BACK TO THIS MEETING SO I COULD LET THEM IN, BUT I DON'T SEE THEM COMING. [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS ALEX MARTINEZ, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? SURE. WHAT'S UP? OKAY, SO THIS BUILDING WAS PURCHASED WHAT 1950, AND IT WAS A GAS STATION, AUTO REPAIR SHOP. OBVIOUSLY, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY DIDN'T EXIST, BUT DID ANYBODY DO AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY ON THIS PROPERTY? I DON'T KNOW. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

OKAY. THANKS. WILL YOU BE STARTING THE PRESENTATION FROM THE BEGINNING AGAIN.

YES, BUT I'LL GO QUICKER.

WELL, I JUST. I HAD GLANCED DOWN FOR A SECOND.

WHERE YOU SHOWED. WHERE THE LOTS WOULD BE.

AND THEN WHEN I GLANCED OFF UP, IT WAS GONE.

SO I'LL MAKE SURE I GO BACK THROUGH IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I AM NOT SURE WHAT'S HAPPENED.

TIFFANY, GO AHEAD.

I WILL GET THESE TWO PEOPLE IN.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO ALL RIGHTY HERE, LET'S GO BACK TO SHARING THE SCREEN.

A LITTLE REFRESH.

EVERYBODY WANTED TO HEAR SOME OF THIS SPIEL TWICE.

TONIGHT, WE ARE REVIEWING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PZ20 00023-04 FOR THE SHAMROCK FOOD COMPANY. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3611 EAST INDUSTRIAL DRIVE THE WHERE THE WORDS ARE WRITTEN SUBJECT SITE. THESE ARE THE TWO PARCELS RIGHT IN HERE.

SO FANNING DRIVE COMES IN, COMES ACROSS THE RAILROAD AND CONNECTS IT INDUSTRIAL RIGHT ACROSS FROM ONE OF THE TWO PARCELS.

THESE TWO PARCELS WILL BE COMBINED AS PART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT APPROXIMATELY 18 AND A HALF THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT OF BUILDING TO BE USED AS A WHOLESALE FOOD STORE.

BECAUSE THIS USE FALLS UNDER THE GENERAL RETAIL BUSINESS AND THE ZONING CODE, IT IS PERMITTED IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE, WHICH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS SITE IS ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AS IS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ON THAT SIDE OF INDUSTRIAL.

SO THEY HAVE PURSUED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN ORDER TO ALLOW THAT GENERAL RETAIL BUSINESS. SO HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

THE SITE PLAN IS SHOWING WHERE THE EXISTING BUILDING IS.

AND AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY A GAS STATION BUILT IN THE 1950S.

IT IS THOUGHT THAT SHAMROCK TOOK OVER THE SITE IN ABOUT THE SEVENTIES, AND IT'S REALLY USED AS A LOCAL DISTRIBUTION CENTER.

BUT ABOUT 85% OF THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY VACANT.

SO TO THE LEFT IS THE NEW PROPOSED BUILDING THAT WILL BE LOCATED ON SITE.

THIS WILL REMOVE ONE EXISTING OR THIS WILL YOU BASICALLY REMOVE AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT'S LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY, RELOCATE IT TOWARDS THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE THAT TRUCK MOVEMENT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT FEATURE FOR THIS SITE.

AS MOST OF THE RETAIL ON THIS IS MORE OF A RESTAURANT WHOLESALING BUSINESS.

THESE ARE THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS.

IT IS A PRE-ENGINEERED METAL BUILDING WITH ROOF ARTICULATION, STOREFRONT WINDOW DETAILS AND ADDITIONAL MATERIALS AND COMPLIANCE WITH ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.

TYPICALLY, BUILDINGS IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS.

HOWEVER, WHEN A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED, THAT IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS ARE GENERALLY REQUIRED.

SO ADDITIONAL FEATURES HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THIS PRE-ENGINEERED METAL BUILDING TO MAKE IT MEET THOSE STANDARDS, INCLUDING THE ARTICULATION, THE WINDOWS FENESTRATION.

SO UP HERE WHERE YOU SEE THE NORTH ELEVATION, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO FACE THE STREET ON INDUSTRIAL.

THE EAST ELEVATION IS THE ELEVATION THAT YOU'RE BASICALLY SEEING FROM THE PARKING LOT.

THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THESE ELEVATIONS.

I HAVE TO SAY, OF ALL OF THE APPLICANTS THAT I'VE WORKED WITH IN A LONG TIME, THIS TEAM

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WAS GREAT TO WORK WITH.

THE ARCHITECTURE FIRM WAS GREAT.

THE SHAMROCK FOOD FOLKS WERE GREAT.

REALLY, THIS BEING AN INDUSTRIAL SITE, AN AREA SURROUNDED BY OTHER INDUSTRIAL USES.

THEY REALLY DID TRY TO STEP UP AND GO BEYOND JUST CREATING A MINIMALISTIC INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. SO STAFF REALLY APPRECIATED WORKING WITH THIS TEAM.

THEY DEFINITELY WORKED WITH US TO COME UP WITH SOME COMPROMISES FOR THIS BUILDING.

SO THERE ARE THREE FINDINGS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THE FIRST IS THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OBJECTIVES OF THE ZONING CODE AND THE PURPOSE OF THE SPECIFIC ZONE.

THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE APPLIES TO AREAS OF THE CITY THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR CLEAN AND QUIET INDUSTRIES AND PROXIMITY TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING MANUFACTURING, WAREHOUSING AND RELATED USES WITH LIMITED AND SCREENED EXTERIOR STORAGE.

THE LI ZONE ESTABLISHES A TRANSITIONAL AREA BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREAS, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME IT IS APPLIED TO AREAS OF THE CITY AS A FREESTANDING INDUSTRIAL ZONE. AND FOR US IT REALLY IS JUST THAT FREESTANDING INDUSTRIAL ZONE AS WE HAVE VERY FEW LIMITED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONE PROPERTIES.

SO IN TERMS OF THIS FINDING, THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE DOES ALLOW FOR GENERAL RETAIL USES WITH THE GRANTING OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THE LAST TIME YOU SAW SOMETHING SIMILAR WAS FOR THE NEW KOHL'S BUILDING THAT'S LOCATED AT 1600 EAST BUTLER.

THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS PRIMARILY TO PROTECT USES THAT ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE, WHICH MAY BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH GENERAL RETAIL USES AND INDUSTRIAL USE BUILDINGS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO INCORPORATE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS AS WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR RETAIL IN GENERAL SERVICES BUILDING IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONE. SO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WILL MAKE THEM MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

SO STAFF BELIEVES FINDING ONE HAS BEEN MET.

THEY ARE MEETING THE STIPULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS FOR RETAIL BUILDINGS IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE AND STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSED RETAIL USE WILL CONFLICT WITH OTHER INDUSTRIAL USES.

FINDING NUMBER TWO THE CONDITIONAL USE WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE. THIS USE MUST BE OPERATED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PERMIT.

NO ANTICIPATED NOISE, SMOKE, ODOR, DUST, VIBRATION OR ILLUMINATION? NO KNOWN HAZARD OF EXPLOSION, CONTAMINATION, FIRE OR FLOOD, AND NO UNUSUAL VOLUME OR CHARACTER OF TRAFFIC. SO STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE.

TRAFFIC MAY INCREASE A SLIGHT AMOUNT TO THE SITE, KNOWING THAT 85% OF THE EXISTING BUILDING IS VACANT.

BUT A RE-ENERGIZED USE AT THIS LOCATION IS PROBABLY WHAT THIS AREA COULD USE.

SO FINDING NUMBER THREE IS ACTUALLY NINE FINDINGS ALL IN ONE.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY, BUT THAT THE CHARACTERISTICS ARE REASONABLY COMPATIBLE WITH USES PERMITTED IN THE SURROUNDING AREA OF PER OF THE FOLLOWING POINTS.

SO LET'S GO THROUGH THESE.

THE ACCESS, TRAFFIC AND CIRCULATION.

SO ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROVIDED VIA A NEW DRIVEWAY LOCATED TOWARDS THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY ALONG INDUSTRIAL DRIVE.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT TO RELOCATE THAT DRIVEWAY TO BE LESS OF A CONFLICT WITH THE INTERSECTION OF FANNING.

OVERALL, THIS IS GOING TO RESULT IN A BETTER PATTERN OF CIRCULATION ON SITE.

IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR THE APPLICANT IN ORDER TO MAKE THE TRUCK MANEUVERING WORK.

AND SO BUT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT AND NO SIGNIFICANT ONSITE OR OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS ARE REALLY REQUIRED.

THERE IS SOME MINIMAL SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT THAT WILL HAPPEN AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE. BUT EVEN MOST OF THE EDGE IMPROVEMENTS ARE PRESENT.

THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 36 PARKING SPACES PROVIDED FOR THE NEW BUILDING.

THE APPLICANT DID PURSUE A PARKING DEMAND STUDY.

THIS IS A WAY FOR US TO WORK WITH APPLICANTS TO DEVELOP A PARKING STANDARD THAT WORKS BEST FOR THEIR OPERATION.

THIS BEING A WHOLESALE BUSINESS, IS EXPECTED TO HAVE MAYBE A SMALLER CLIENTELE OVERALL.

AND SO THIS PARKING DEMAND STUDY ALLOWED US TO KEEP THAT, BE CREATIVE AND KEEP A GOOD TRUCK MANEUVERING AREA ON THE SITE.

ADEQUACY OF THE SITE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT THE 18,600 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON THE 1.71 ACRE SITE. NEITHER CIVIC SPACE OR OPEN SPACE ARE REQUIRED FOR THE SITE BECAUSE THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING IS LESS THAN 20,000 SQUARE FEET AND ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE ARE MET, INCLUDING FAR LIMITATIONS OF .25.

SORT OF ALLUDING TO IT EARLIER, RETAIL WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE IS LIMITED TO THAT .25 FAR AND THIS BUILDING MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT.

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AGAIN, I THINK THE MOST DIFFICULT COMPONENT OF THE SITE WAS MAKING SURE THAT THE TRUCK MOVEMENT WORK WITH THE LOCATION OF THE DRIVEWAYS IN RELATION TO THAT EXISTING INTERSECTION. SO THE NEXT ONE IS NOISE, LIGHT, VISUAL AND OTHER POLLUTANTS.

AND IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED THAT THE PROPOSED USE WILL CREATE ANY NOISE, VISUAL OR OTHER POLLUTANTS IN THE AREA, AND ALL EXTERIOR LIGHTING WILL BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF. STRICT OUTDOOR LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS.

STYLE AND SITING OF THE STRUCTURE AND RELATIONSHIP TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE PROPOSED BUILDING HAS BEEN DESIGNED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SITE PLANNING DESIGN STANDARDS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE ZONING CODE.

SO YOU HAVE A BUILDING FORWARD DESIGN.

IT HAS GOOD PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO THE SIDEWALK.

THE PARKING IS LOCATED TO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN THAT PARKING AREA IS SCREENED WITH ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

THIS WILL FAR EXCEED SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT IN THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD.

EVEN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH OF THIS SITE IS OLDER AND IS NON-CONFORMING IN TERMS OF MANY OF THE STANDARDS THAT THIS NEW FACILITY WILL MEET IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. AND AS STATED THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS DESIGNED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS OF THE ZONING CODE.

AND IT, OF COURSE, WILL BE VISIBLE.

THAT'S A NOT IT WILL BE VISIBLE FROM THE ADJACENT RIGHT OF WAY.

THE SITE WILL BE LANDSCAPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING CODE.

AND THE LANDSCAPING ALONG INDUSTRIAL HAS BEEN BUMPED UP TO ADEQUATELY SCREEN THE ADJACENT PARKING AREA.

AND THEN IN TERMS OF IMPACT ON PUBLIC UTILITIES, THE SITE CAN BE ADEQUATELY SERVED AND NO NEW OFFSITE INFRASTRUCTURE IS REQUIRED.

MINIMAL NEW IMPERVIOUS SURFACES ARE PROPOSED SIGNAGE AND OUTDOOR LIGHTING.

ANY NEW SIGNAGE WILL REQUIRE A SIGN PERMIT.

ON THE ELEVATIONS, YOU COULD SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO HAVE SIGNAGE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THAT'S GOING TO COMPLY WITH OUR SIGN STANDARDS.

THEY'LL JUST NEED TO PULL THOSE PERMITS AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT.

AND OF COURSE, ANY NEW OUTDOOR LIGHTING WILL REQUIRE AN OUTDOOR LIGHTING PERMIT.

THERE'S NO FURTHER RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATIONS NECESSARY AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION.

AND A CULTURAL RESOURCE REVIEW WAS COMPLETED BY THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION OFFICER IN TERMS OF THE EXISTING BUILDING TO BE DEMOLISHED AND NO ADDITIONAL MITIGATIONS REQUIRED FOR THE SITE. THE SITE IS NOT LOCATED IN A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY.

THERE ARE NO TREE SLOPES OR FLOODPLAIN RESOURCES ON THE SITE.

THE APPLICANT DID REQUEST RELIEF FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND INSTEAD SENT LETTERS TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 600 FEET.

AND TO DATE STAFF.

BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, ALSO, WE HAVE ALL DONE THE NOTIFICATION AS REQUIRED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC IN REGARDS TO THIS APPLICATION.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FINDINGS, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVE THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WITH THE CONDITION YOU SEE RIGHT THERE THAT BASICALLY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE COMPLY WITH THE SITE PLAN APPROVED BY THE INTER-DIVISION STAFF ON JANUARY 4, 2022.

AND IF YOU SHOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER THEM.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOW PRESENT.

AND I'M GOING TO STOP SHARING MY SCREEN.

THANKS, TIFFANY.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER NORTON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.

FIRST, I'LL SAY I LIKE THIS PROJECT VERY MUCH.

I FEEL A RETAIL OFFERING AT THIS FACILITY IS WELCOMED AND MUCH NEEDED, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY POPULAR.

I WAS WANTING TO COMMENT ON IN THE IDS REPORT, THE SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT WAS STRONGLY ENCOURAGING THE ADDITION OF SOLAR PANELS TO THE NEW BUILDING AND THAT WOULD SURELY ADD TO MORE WEIGHT TO FINDING NUMBER THREE.

AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF SHAMROCK WAS OPEN TO THAT SUGGESTION AND ENCOURAGEMENT, IF ANYTHING FURTHER CAME OF THAT? MY SECOND QUESTION WAS MORE ABOUT THE PARKING, AND I DID READ THROUGH THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY BY [INAUDIBLE] TECH, SO THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

I'M NOT SURE THAT I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THE SHORTAGE OF THE TEN PARKING SPACES, ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE TRUCK MANEUVERABILITY ISSUE AND THIS ISN'T EXACTLY A FACILITY THAT FITS INTO SOME OF THE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY.

SO I DID FIND THE THE REVIEW AGAINST THE SHAMROCK FACILITY IN FORT COLLINS, COLORADO,

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HELPFUL. I JUST WASN'T QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH THE JUGGLING OF THE NUMBERS THAT MADE IT ACCEPTABLE, THAT ALLOWED FOR THE REDUCTION BECAUSE OF BICYCLE PARKING AND THE PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF HOW PEOPLE WILL BE SHOPPING HERE IN BULK, THEY PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO GET ON THEIR BIKE WITH THESE PRODUCTS OR ON THE BUS.

SO THAT WAS JUST MY ONLY QUESTION IS I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING.

ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. AND REALLY MY QUESTION WAS IF THEY WERE ENTERTAINING THE IDEA OF THE SOLAR PANELS? THANK YOU. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE APPLICANT IN THE MEETING, HAVE WE? ARE YOU ALL IN NOW? PATRICK MADE IT. YAY, PATRICK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. [LAUGHTER] IF COLBY IS NOT IN, I JUST SENT HIM THE LINK, SO I'M SORRY.

THERE HE IS. OH.

IS THAT COLBY? OKAY.

YAY. THANK YOU.

SO ALL'S YOU'VE MISSED PATRICK AND COLBY IS MY PRESENTATION AND EXPLANATION, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING IN THE STAFF SUMMARY.

BUT A QUESTION WAS JUST ASKED BY COMMISSIONER NORTON BASED ON THE IDS COMMENTS AT SITE PLAN, OUR SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION HAD SUGGESTED THE USE OF SOLAR PANELS.

COMMISSIONER NORTON WAS ASKING IF YOU HAD CONSIDERED THAT AT ALL.

I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK TO SHAMROCK ABOUT.

BUT AT THIS POINT, WE HAVEN'T HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

OKAY. AND THEN.

OH I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. RIGHT.

WE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED IT IN THIS DESIGN.

MANY THANKS.

AND THEN I THINK THE SECOND QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER NORTON, I'M SORRY.

I JUST WANT TO INTERRUPT REALLY FAST, BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET ANYONE'S NAME THAT JUST SPOKE.

SO WHEN YOU SPEAK, I JUST NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AS I CAN KEEP MINUTES, PLEASE. FIRST, THIS IS COLBY VICKERS WITH ERR ARCHITECTURE.

WE'RE AT 808 EAST OSBORN PHOENIX.

WAS THERE SOMEONE THAT SOMEONE ELSE JUST SPOKE TOO? PATRICK? YES.

PATRICK. YEAH.

PATRICK GREINER WITH SHAMROCK FOODS.

AND IT'S 3900 EAST CAMELBACK ROAD PHOENIX, ARIZONA.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES. YEAH.

SO I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY A LITTLE BIT.

SO IN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT, WITH THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY, THE ZONING CODE ALREADY ALLOWS CERTAIN REDUCTIONS.

AND WHILE THE APPLICANT IS INTENDING TO SELL WHOLESALE ITEMS, SOME OF THOSE ITEMS ARE PREPACKAGED. BUT I MEAN, THEY DO, AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME, THEY COULD SELL A RESTAURANT STOVE, WHICH OF COURSE YOU WOULDN'T PURCHASE A STOVE AND THEN BRING THAT HOME ON YOUR BICYCLE OR ON A BUS.

BUT HOWEVER, THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK AT THIS SITE MAY BE USING THOSE PARTICULAR RESOURCES. ADDITIONALLY, IT'S WHEN SOMETHING IS SORT OF A MORE UNIQUE USE THAT DOESN'T FALL WITHIN THE CONFINES OF A REGULAR RETAIL STORE.

IT IS AN APPROPRIATE TOOL TO UTILIZE PARKING COUNTS AND TRAFFIC COUNTS.

THAT PARKING DEMAND STUDY IS REQUIRED TO BE PREPARED BY A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL, AND THE PLANNING DIRECTOR HAD THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE PARKING DEMAND STUDIES THAT EQUATE IN A LESS THAN 30% REDUCTION OVERALL.

ANYTHING ABOVE 30% WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

AND SO IN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT, WE WERE.

THIS WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BETTER ROUTES THAT WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THEIR USE TO ACCOMMODATE THE TRUCK MOVEMENT AND FELT COMFORTABLE THAT THERE WOULD BE ADEQUATE PARKING ON SITE BASED ON THE REGISTERED TRAFFIC ENGINEER WHO PREPARED THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY.

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THANK YOU FOR THE ADDITIONAL DETAILS.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

I THINK COMMISSIONER HARRIS HAD HIS HAND UP FIRST.

OH, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M NOT USED TO THE NAMES YET.

COMMISSIONER HARRIS.

YES. I JUST HAD A QUESTION CLARIFICATION.

IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION THERE THAT MINIMAL IMPERVIOUS SERVICES WERE BEING ADDED, BUT IT APPEARS TO BE A LARGE PARKING LOT.

ARE THERE SPECIAL PROVISIONS FOR STORMWATER RETENTION ON THIS PROJECT OR IN THIS ZONE? YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WELL, MOST OF THE SITE ALREADY IS COVERED, SO WHEN REVIEWING FOR STORMWATER PURPOSES, THAT EXISTING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IS ALREADY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

SO WHILE THEY'RE REMOVING A BUILDING AND RELOCATING, THAT SITE IS ALREADY CONSIDERED MOSTLY IMPERVIOUS NOW.

I SEE. OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE.

OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

SO FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY STAFF FOR THEIR PRESENTATION AND I WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR GETTING ON THIS MEETING REALLY QUICKLY.

I DO WANT TO STATE THAT I LIVE NEARBY, SO I SEE THE SHAMROCK BUILDING ALL THE TIME AND TEARING THAT DOWN IS PROBABLY A REALLY GOOD THING.

BUT I WAS WONDERING IF SHAMROCK HAD LOOKED AT ANY OTHER VACANT PROPERTIES INSTEAD OF BUILDING A NEW PROPERTY AND OR IF SHAMROCK DOES ACTUALLY OWN THAT PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BUILDING THERE.

THIS IS PATRICK.

AND WE DID DO BOTH.

WE LOOKED AT ANOTHER PROPERTY, AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO USE THAT PROPERTY.

AND SO WE'RE USING THE CURRENT PROPERTY WE OWN AND SO TO BETTER DEVELOP OUR BUSINESS.

SO THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF AVAILABLE PROPERTY THAT WE COULD WORK WITH.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

VERY WELCOME. MARY, I SEE YOUR HAND AGAIN.

IS THAT FROM BEFORE OR IS THIS A NEW QUESTION? NO, I THINK IT MUST BE FROM BEFORE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THANKS. OKAY.

SO WE HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT THE APPLICANT ANSWERED, BUT I WONDER IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE THE FLOOR AT ALL FOR ANY FURTHER PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT. NO.

I THINK WE'RE ALL SET FOR NOW, UNLESS ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FOR US AND THIS IS [INAUDIBLE].

OKAY. GREAT.

SO DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS CASE? SO PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND THERE.

AND YEAH, AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING.

SO I THINK WE'RE READY TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS CASE AND DISCUSS IT FURTHER IF NEEDED.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT THE P&Z COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF PZ20-00023-04 TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FINDINGS PRESENTED IN THE REPORT.

AND THE CONDITIONS IN THE REPORT.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER NORTON.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

I JUST NEED TO NOTE THAT THIS CASE DOES NOT GO TO CITY COUNCIL UNLESS IT'S APPEALED.

THEN I RECOMMEND STRIKING THAT IT GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND THAT P&Z APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION WITH THE CONDITIONS AND FINDINGS IN THE REPORT.

DOES COMMISSIONER NORTON HAVE TO SECOND THAT AGAIN?

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THAT WOULD BE PREFERRED, YES.

I WILL SECOND THAT AGAIN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU, TIFFANY, FOR CATCHING THAT.

MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, CAN YOU.

I FEEL LIKE WHEN I WAS FIRST ON THE COMMISSION, IT WAS HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHY SOME THINGS WENT TO WERE BEING RECOMMENDED TO FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND SOMETIMES NOT.

SO CAN YOU SAY ANYTHING MORE ABOUT THE CUP AND WHY THAT DOES NOT GO TO COUNCIL? SURE. SO CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS ARE REALLY THE ONE PERMIT THAT IS AT THE EXCLUSIVE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS ARE REALLY CONSIDERED TO BE A PERMITTED USE IN THE ZONE REQUIRING SOME EXTRA REVIEW AND REQUIREMENTS.

SO BASICALLY THESE CONDITIONAL USES MAY NOT ALWAYS BE APPROPRIATE OR THEY'LL NEED ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS TO MAKE THEM FIT IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS.

SO THAT'S PRIMARILY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS AGREED WITH STAFF THAT THE SITE IS GENERALLY APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPOSED USE.

SO THERE IS AN APPEAL PROCESS.

CITY COUNCIL ITSELF CAN APPEAL THE DECISION OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IF NECESSARY.

SO TOMORROW, COME TOMORROW MORNING, I WILL WAKE UP, I WILL DO A NOTICE OF DECISION.

I WILL SEND THAT OUT TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I WILL ALSO POST THAT NOTICE ON THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF'S WEBSITE SO THAT ANYONE THAT MAY BE INTERESTED OR NOT INTERESTED COULD THEN PURSUE AN APPEAL.

THERE IS A TEN DAY PROCESS FOR WHICH THAT CAN HAPPEN.

THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW INSTANCES WHEN COUNCIL HAS INTERVENED, EITHER AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT OR ON THEIR OWN IN THOSE REVIEWS.

I HOPE THAT HELPS.

YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU.

AND IF ANY OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, PLEASE, LET US KNOW.

SO IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THAT.

I THINK THIS PROJECT LOOKS REALLY GOOD AND I APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION GIVEN TO THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS AND THE WORK THAT STAFF AND THE APPLICANT DID TOGETHER ON THIS.

ALSO ON THE LANDSCAPING, IT SEEMS LIKE A NICE SOLUTION.

AND ALSO ON THE ENTRY, MOVING THE ENTRY IS DEFINITELY AN IMPROVEMENT FOR THE AREA.

THAT'S MY COMMENT ON IT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION ON THIS? COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO AND I JUST WANT A SECOND WHAT YOU SAID, MARIE AND I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT BEFORE YOU DID.

SO THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.

THANKS. OK.

IF THE APPLICANT DIDN'T HEAR, THE CITY SAID YOU WERE GREAT TO WORK WITH AND YOU WENT OVER ABOVE AND BEYOND.

THANK YOU. YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] GLAD THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND MEET TIFFANY AND ALEX IN PERSON AND KIND OF WORK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS.

WE APPRECIATE IT AS WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT WAS PATRICK, RIGHT? SO I THINK IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE ON THE MOTION.

A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.

THAT WASN'T PATRICK.

I THINK PATRICK DOES HAVE A COMMENT.

OH, PATRICK, I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOU THAT JUST SPOKE.

GO AHEAD. NO, I RAISED MY HAND FIRST.

NO, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CITY FOR ALL THE GUIDANCE YOU GAVE US.

IT DEFINITELY, THE EDUCATION WE GOT WHILE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS REALLY MADE IT A LOT EASIER FOR US TO MAKE INTELLIGENT DECISIONS TO WORK FORWARD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE'RE READY TO VOTE ON THE MOTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

AND THAT PASSES.

SO THANK YOU.

AND WITH THAT, WE'RE READY TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM, A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, WHICH IS A

[A. Preliminary Plat PZ-21-00154-01 MMV D3 MMV Devco, LLC requests Preliminary Plat approval for MMV D3 located at 1800 N Gemini Drive, a single-family subdivision on 6.31 acres in the MR (Medium Density Residential) Zone. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Staff recommends the Planning and Zoning Commission, in accordance with the findings presented in this report, forward the Preliminary Plat to the City Council with a recommendation of approval. ]

PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR 1800 NORTH GEMINI DRIVE SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

SO MAY WE HAVE THAT PRESENTATION.

YES. AND I LOVE YOUR WIND CHIMES, BY THE WAY.

THANK YOU. THEY'RE INCREDIBLY NOISY.

SO CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN? ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GET THIS SLIDE SHOW GOING.

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SORRY. I'M TRYING TO MANAGE ALL OF THESE CASES ALL AT ONCE, I THINK I'M DOING OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM MMV DEVCO, LLC FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR THE MMV D3 PARCEL LOCATED AT 1800 NORTH GEMINI DRIVE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

IT WOULD HELP IF I GOT THAT GOING.

ON 6.31 ACRES IN THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONE.

THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION WITH 41 SINGLE FAMILY HOME LOTS ON 6.31 ACRES IN THE MEDIUM DENSITY ZONE WITHIN THE RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY.

THE IDS TEAM, THE INTER-DIVISION STAFF TEAM DID APPROVE THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT ON FEBRUARY 4TH. SO INITIALLY WE HAVE GONE THROUGH CONCEPT, PLAN, REVIEW AND THEN ALSO PRELIMINARY PLAT REVIEW SO FAR ON THIS APPLICATION.

SO WHERE IS THIS SITE? THIS IS IF YOU'VE BEEN UP ON MCMILLAN MESA IN THE LAST COUPLE, SIX MONTHS, TWO YEARS.

THIS WAS THE SITE WHERE ALL OF THE ROCK WAS BEING SORT OF STORED.

IT'S BEEN IT WAS IT HAS BEEN A STOCKPILE LOCATION FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

IT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE IT'S DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE FUTS TRAIL ON THE WEST.

BUT THEN BEYOND THAT, YOU HAVE BASIS SCHOOL.

TO THE NORTH THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE SEEING A TON OF NEW DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING.

WE HAVE A CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY.

YOU RECENTLY SAW A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A NEW HOSPITAL ON THE MESA.

MEDICAL OFFICES, ANOTHER HOSPITAL LOCATION, A GUARDIAN AMBULANCE.

AND, OF COURSE, THIS GREEN AND THIS LITTLE RD PIECE THAT YOU SEE, THEY DON'T ALL OF THIS AREA, IT FALLS WITHIN THE MCMILLAN MESA NATURAL RESOURCE AREA THAT IS PRESERVED OPEN SPACE AND IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

IN 2016, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WAS REZONED FROM RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

AND THE MCMILLAN MESA VILLAGE SPECIFIC PLAN WAS AMENDED TO SUPPORT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION ON THIS SITE.

THIS WAS DONE IN COMBINATION WITH SEVERAL OF THE PROPERTIES ON THE MESA AND INCLUDED THE PARCELS THAT ARE NOW DEVELOPED WITH THE BUNGALOWS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO FOREST AND ALSO ALONG GEMINI.

SO HERE IS THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT AND YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF DETAILS ON HERE BECAUSE THIS IS ZONED MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THIS HAS TO BE THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT NEEDS TO BE A PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND BASICALLY WHAT A PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS, IS UTILIZING OUR FORM BASED CODE STANDARDS TO CREATE AN ENHANCED SINGLE FAMILY HOME DESIGN.

IT'S BASICALLY LOOKING AT FOR A MORE NEO TRADITIONAL OR TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN TO THE BEST EXTENT POSSIBLE ON PARCELS SUCH AS THIS, WHILE ALSO PRESERVING AT LEAST 15% OF THE SITE AS OPEN SPACE.

AND TYPICALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT MR AND HR ZONE PARCELS AND THEY HAVE TO PRESERVE THAT OPEN SPACE, THERE ARE SETBACK AREAS THAT MAY BE USED.

THIS SITE WAS REALLY TIGHT AND TRYING TO GET THE STREET IN, GET IN OUR LI DETENTION, CREATE A MEANINGFUL OPEN SPACE WHICH YOU SEE HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS MEET THE MINIMUM DENSITY REQUIRED BY THE MR ZONE.

SO WE DID A LOT OF SQUEEZE IN HERE TO MAKE THIS WORK.

SO THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES MEET THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONE STANDARDS.

THE DENSITY, THE GROSS DENSITY OF THE PROJECT IS 6.5 UNITS PER ACRE AND THE NET IS 8.25.

SO GROSS IS THE SITE OVERALL AS A WHOLE, THE NET IS MINUS THE NEW ROADWAY THAT WILL NEED TO BE DEVELOPED TO SERVICE THESE NEW LOTS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT'S WITHIN THE MR RANGE OF SIX LOTS, MINIMUM AND NINE LOTS MAXIMUM WHEN A PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY, THE LOT DESIGN IS FOR A PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OPTION TAKEN TO ALLOW BASICALLY LOTS THAT ARE LESS THAN 6000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

AND FOR THAT, EACH OF THESE HOMES, THEY'LL SIT MUCH CLOSER TO THE STREET.

THEY'LL HAVE A DESIGNATED FRONT PORCH OF AT LEAST EIGHT BY TEN.

THE HOUSE NEEDS TO BE DESIGNED SO THAT THE GARAGE DOOR IS NOT THE DOMINANT FEATURE ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

AND WE'VE WORKED HARD WITH THE APPLICANT TO CREATE A BUILDING ENVELOPE THAT WILL HOPEFULLY WORK FOR THEM AND HOPEFULLY WORK FOR US.

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SO THE LOT SIZES ARE SMALLER THAN TYPICALLY REQUIRED IN THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONE THAT'S 6000 SQUARE FEET AND THE SETBACKS ARE ALTERNATIVE SETBACKS.

BOTH OF THESE, AS YOU CAN SEE BELOW, ARE ALLOWED.

CITY COUNCIL CAN APPROVE ALTERNATIVE LOT SIZES AND SETBACKS ON A FINAL PLAT.

THIS WORKS REALLY WELL WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH A SUBDIVISION AS SUBDIVISIONS REALLY BECOME SORT OF THEIR OWN LITTLE INCLUSIVE NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO WHEN THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS DESIGNED AND WORKS TOGETHER AND EVERYBODY'S HAVING THE SAME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, WE FIND THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WORKS WELL, EVEN THOUGH IT DEVIATES FROM THOSE STANDARDS THAT YOU WOULD SEE ON AN INDIVIDUAL LOT IN THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONE.

SO THE REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR SUBDIVISION PLAT ARE COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING CODE, COMPLIANCE WITH THE SUBDIVISION CODE AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT SUBDIVISION PLATS ARE SORT OF MINISTERIAL IN NATURE, MEANING THEY ARE THEY ARE BASICALLY AN EXTENSION OF USING YOUR EXISTING ZONING ENTITLEMENT.

SO THIS IS NOT A ZONING ENTITLEMENT CASE.

IT'S NOT A DISCRETIONARY ITEM.

IT'S BASICALLY A USE OF THE EXISTING ZONING RIGHTS.

AND IN THAT, YOU ASK, WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT THIS? WELL, WE WANT YOU TO CONFIRM AND AGREE WITH THE FINDINGS THAT WE'VE MET, THAT IT MEETS THE STANDARDS OF THE ZONING CODE, THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS. BUT ADDITIONALLY, THIS IS ALSO ABOUT ACCEPTING ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY INTO THE CITY'S NETWORK.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NEED TO ACCEPT THOSE NEW STREET RATES AWAY.

SO THE MOST RELEVANT STANDARDS FOR THE ZONING CODE IN TERMS OF HISTORIC CULTURAL RESOURCES, I'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE FIRST SECTION IN TERMS OF THE STANDARDS OF THE MR DISTRICT AND WHERE WE STICK TO THE CODE AND THE FEW VARIATIONS IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK. THE CULTURAL RESOURCE CLEARANCE WILL BE REQUIRED ON THIS SITE PRIOR TO FINAL PLAT. WE HAVE DELAYED SOME THINGS HERE JUST BECAUSE OF THE SURFACE CONDITIONS AND THE STOCKPILING OF MATERIALS.

IN TERMS OF PARKS, OPEN SPACE, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FACILITIES THE SITE IS WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO BUFFALO PARK, PONDEROSA PARK AND THE CITY-OWNED OPEN SPACE.

IN TERMS OF I MEAN, HAVING ONE OF THESE LOTS WOULD PROBABLY BE THE JACKPOT IN TERMS OF BEING CLOSE TO OPEN SPACE.

THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION ALSO SITS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE FUTS TRAIL AND A CONNECTION HAS BEEN PRESERVED THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION TO THAT FUTS TRAIL, AS ACTUALLY WAS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL OF THE REZONING IN 2016 WHEN THE SITE WAS REZONED.

SO THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION DOES MEET THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS.

WE DID NOT NEED TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR THE SITE BECAUSE ONE WAS COMPLETED IN 2016 OR AN UPDATE TO THE EXISTING TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS COMPLETED IN 2016 WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS REZONED AND ESSENTIALLY DENSITY WAS SORT OF MOVED FROM ONE LOCATION TO ANOTHER IN ORDER TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE.

OVERALL, THE DENSITY AND INTENSITY OF USES ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED WITHIN THE MCMILLAN MESA VILLAGE AREA ARE GOING TO BE LOWER THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T HEAR A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA, AND A BIG PART OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE CHARTER SCHOOL.

CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE EXEMPT FROM ZONING AND SO SOMETIMES WE DO RUN INTO SOME ISSUES.

THERE'S LIMITED THINGS THAT WE CAN REQUIRE AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENTS.

AND SOMETIMES THEY IT RESULTS IN SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC SYSTEMS ANALYSIS, THE AREA HAS ALREADY BEEN DESIGNED WITH WATER AND SEWER. HOWEVER, THIS SITE PROVED TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT.

IT TOOK US A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET THIS ONE THROUGH THE INTER DIVISION STAFF BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT HOW WE WERE GOING TO SEWER THIS PROPERTY.

THE SEWER LINE THAT IS IN GEMINI ALONG THE FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY DEFINITELY COULD BE USED. BUT HOWEVER, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH GRAVITY TO GET TO THAT SEWER LINE.

SO IT WAS GOING TO REQUIRE A LIFT STATION, WHICH THEN WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A MODIFICATION FROM OUR ENGINEERING STANDARDS.

SO THE APPLICANT WORKED HARD.

THEY HAD ORIGINALLY INTENDED GOING THROUGH THE CITY'S PROPERTY TO CONNECT TO THE SEWER LINE AND PONDEROSA PARKWAY, WHICH WOULD GRAVITY THE WAY THAT IT NEEDS TO.

HOWEVER, THE OPEN SPACE AND THE CITIZEN INITIATIVE PROHIBITED ANY USE OF THAT PROPERTY FOR THAT USE. SO THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH BASIS TO ACQUIRE THE REQUIRED EASEMENTS NECESSARY TO SEWER THE PROPERTY IN THAT LOCATION.

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SO I DID TALK ABOUT WATER AND WASTEWATER.

AND OF COURSE, THEY'LL BE NEW LOOPED WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES WITHIN THE ROAD.

BUT THERE WILL BE A SEWER LINE EXTENSION THAT WILL GO OUT TO PONDEROSA PARKWAY.

SO THAT WILL BE A LITTLE UNIQUE.

IN TERMS OF STORMWATER.

THE ONLY THING THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING ON THIS SITE IS A LOCATION.

AND THAT ALSO ADJACENT TO WHERE THAT SEWER LINE WILL COME OUT IN THE SOUTH WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE FUTS, THERE IS A LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT OR LID BASIN, BUT THIS SUBDIVISION FITS WITHIN A LARGER OVERALL MASTER DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS REGIONAL DETENTION.

AND I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER IS PRESENT AND IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THAT REGIONAL DETENTION, YOU KIND OF CAN'T MISS IT AS YOU DRIVE PAST ON FOREST. BUT THEY CAN EXPLAIN MORE IN DETAIL HOW THAT'S MANAGED THROUGHOUT THAT OVERALL MASTER DEVELOPMENT.

SO THIS APPLICATION DID MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PROCEDURES, AS WELL AS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THOSE INCLUDE THE LOT, [INAUDIBLE] STREET DESIGN, THE EASEMENTS AND THE BLOCK.

AND SO AGAIN, THOSE REQUIRED FINDINGS ARE HERE FOR YOUR REVIEW AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BASED ON THE REQUIRED FINDINGS FORWARD THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER THEM.

AND I KNOW THE APPLICANT HAS REPRESENTATIVES HERE THAT CAN ALSO ADDRESS.

I'M NOT SURE IF THEY PREPARED A PRESENTATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU. TIFFANY, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER NORTON.

I'M ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A QUESTION.

[LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] IS REALLY HELPFUL [INAUDIBLE].

SO ONE QUESTION IS FOR, I GUESS, FOR THE APPLICANT.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS, ARE THESE GOING TO BE RENTAL HOMES LIKE THE OTHER BUNGALOWS THAT WERE BUILT BY YOU OR WILL THEY BE SOLD FOR OWNERSHIP? AND THE SECOND PART OF MY QUESTION IS MORE MAYBE FOR STAFF.

I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD MAYBE EXPAND AND EXPLAIN THE NATURAL RESOURCE MENTIONED IN THE ZONING CODE, FINDING.

IT READ THAT THE PARCEL IS LOCATED WITHIN A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY AND THAT A RESOURCE PROTECTION PLAN WAS PREPARED FOR THE ENTIRE MCMILLAN MESA VILLAGE AREA.

SO IN YOUR REPORT, IT READS THAT NO RESOURCES ARE REQUIRED TO BE PRESERVED ON THIS SITE.

IS THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO TREES OR ANYTHING WORTH PRESERVING, OR IS IT IN LIEU OF SOME OTHER AREAS THAT ARE PROTECTED IN THE GREATER AREA? IT'S THE LATTER.

SO, MARY, THIS IS TIFFANY.

IT'S THE LATTER.

THERE ARE THIS SITE'S BEEN PRETTY DISTURBED NOW.

AND I'M NOT SURE THAT I MEAN, IF THERE'S REALLY ANYTHING ON HERE, IT'S PRETTY TINY AT THIS POINT. THERE MAY BE A SPARSE TREE OR TWO, BUT MOST OF THE RESOURCES WERE PRESERVED THROUGHOUT THE LARGER MCMILLAN MESA SUBDIVISION WAY BACK IN 2008 WHEN THAT WAS ALL SUBDIVIDED. SO NOTHING SPECIFIC NEEDED TO BE PRESERVED HERE.

GOT IT. THANK YOU.

AND THEN JUST THE QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT WHAT THEIR INTENTION FOR THE HOUSING PRODUCT IS IF IT'S GOING TO BE RENTAL OR UP FOR HOME OWNERSHIP.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER NORTON.

THIS IS GUILLERMO CORTES WITH SWI ENGINEERING 110 WEST DALE FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA.

AS FAR AS THE OWNERSHIP AND OR RENTAL WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING OWNERSHIP.

NOT A RENTAL PRODUCT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HARRIS.

YES, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD CLARIFY, DOES THE DEVELOPER INTEND TO BUILD ALL OF THESE UNITS OR WILL THE LOTS BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY TO OTHER BUILDERS TO BUILD AS SPECULATIVE HOMES OR CONTRACT HOMES? COMMISSIONER HARRIS, CHAIR JONES, GUILLERMO CORTES AGAIN, THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATIONS WHETHER THESE LOTS COULD BE SOLD TO SOME OF THE SMALLER BUILDERS, BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN QUITE DETERMINED JUST YET.

BUT IT'S LIKELY THAT THEY MAY BUILD IT ON THEIR OWN.

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THE DEVELOPER MAY BUILD THOSE ON THEIR OWN AND SELL THEM.

BUT THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SELLING THESE LOTS TO INDIVIDUAL BUILDERS, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN TOTALLY DETERMINED YET.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER MANDINO, YOU HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION? YES. SO ALONG THOSE LINES ABOUT WHETHER THEY'LL BE BUILT FOR SALE, BUILT BY THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, THEN THIS DOES NOT HAVE ANY BEARING ON HOW I WILL VOTE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT FLAGSTAFF IS IN THIS HOUSING CRISIS WHERE THERE'S NO, HOMES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, RENTALS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, AND THERE SEEMS TO BE A LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR WORKING INDIVIDUALS.

AND I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT WHILE THESE ARE IN A PRIME LOCATION, WHETHER THEY BE WHOEVER THEY'RE BUILT BY, THEY BE BUILT REASONABLY PRICED.

AND THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT.

AGAIN, IT HAS NO BEARING ON HOW I WILL VOTE ON THIS ISSUE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

THIS GUILLERMO? DEFINITELY.

I THINK AS A COMMUNITY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR HOPEFULLY SMALLER LOTS THAT CAN PROVIDE A MORE ATTAINABLE HOME.

AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, I SEE AND I KNOW WE DON'T WANT A PHOENIX, FLAGSTAFF BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN PHOENIX THAT HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR KEEPING PROPERTY PRICES DOWN OR HOUSING PRICES DOWN.

AND THAT'S WHEN I LOOKED AT WHAT WE WERE GIVEN AND HOW THE HOMES MIGHT BE LAID OUT.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE THOSE SLIMMER LOTS WITH HOMES THAT GO DEEP AND THE FRONTS ARE THEY'RE THINNER.

SO I'M HOPING THAT'S HOW THE PRICES OF THESE HOMES MIGHT BE BROUGHT DOWN.

JUST THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HARRIS, I THINK YOUR HAND DID THAT GO UP AGAIN.

THAT'S NOT I HAD A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS.

IS IT DETERMINED THAT THIS SUBDIVISION WOULD BE MANAGED BY AN HOA? AND ARE THERE LANDSCAPE STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE IMPOSED ON EACH OF THESE BUILDING LOTS? COMMISSIONER HARRIS.

I WASN'T SURE IF TIFFANY WOULD TAKE THIS QUESTION ON, BUT YES, WE ARE MEETING THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF STANDARDS FOR LANDSCAPING.

AND THERE WILL BE SOME SORT OF HOA OR CC&R'S THAT WILL HELP MANAGE THAT LANDSCAPING IN COMMON AREAS, OF COURSE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND PARKWAYS.

AND PARKWAYS. THANKS, TIFFANY.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS PROJECT IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE DESIGN ELEMENTS, FOR INSTANCE, THAT THE GARAGE IS NOT BE A PRIMARY VISUAL ELEMENT AND THAT KIND OF THING.

WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR CHECKING UP ON THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT HAPPENS? AND DOES THIS I REALIZE AT THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT LEVEL, WE DON'T SEE THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. AND WILL THIS PROJECT BE ONE THAT DOES COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION AGAIN? THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES.

THIS PROJECT WILL NOT COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION AGAIN.

SO WE GO THROUGH A CONCEPT PLAT FIRST WHICH IS ENTIRELY ADMINISTRATIVE WITH THE APPLICANT. WE THEN GO TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING BEFORE YOU TODAY. THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT WILL MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AND THEN THAT GIVES THE APPLICANT REALLY GOOD ASSURANCE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE EXPENSIVE PART OF THE PROJECT AND THAT'S THEIR CIVIL PLANS.

SO THOSE ARE ALL OF THE ENGINEERING PLANS.

WE WILL WORK THROUGH THAT WITH THE APPLICANT.

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A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE FINAL PLAT THAT'S THAT FINAL DOCUMENT THAT GETS RECORDED. IT'S GOT ALL OF THE FUN REALLY.

WHAT SHOWS ON THE FINAL PLAT IS YOU GET A LOT LESS DETAILED INFORMATION, BUT WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ARE THE DEDICATIONS AND THE DEDICATION LANGUAGE THAT SHOWS ON THAT PLAT.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE'VE GOT TO GET ALL THE [INAUDIBLE] SIGNATURES, BUT REALLY THE PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL GIVES THE COMFORT TO THE DEVELOPER TO REALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR CIVIL PLANS, UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'VE PRETTY MUCH ACHIEVED A SUBSTANTIAL APPROVAL SO THAT THE PRD, THE PLAN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

I AM THE LUCKY LADY WHO WILL GET TO REVIEW EVERY SINGLE BUILDING PERMIT FOR ALL OF THE HOUSES IN HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WILL MEET THE STANDARDS.

THIS APPLICANT, I HAVEN'T DONE THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF PROJECT WITH, BUT OTHERS THAT I HAVE DONE IT WITH ME.

I MEAN, GUILLERMO HAS WORKED ON THIS WITH ME.

THEY CAN ASSURE YOU I HOLD THEM TO EVERY DETAIL.

SO I LIKE ON THIS PROJECT, I'M REVIEWING ALL OF THE BUILDING PERMITS AND TIMBER SKY AS WELL. SO IF YOU EVER JUST THINK I'M JUST HANGING OUT IN THE BACKGROUND, THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING [INAUDIBLE] I'M JUST KIDDING.

I NEVER, EVER THINK THAT.

NO, I KNOW THAT. YOU KNOW, WE CAN COUNT ON YOU, TIFFANY, TO HAVE YOUR EAGLE EYE ON EVERYTHING. BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S HELPFUL TO EXPLAIN TO THE YOU KNOW, JUST TO HAVE AN EXPLANATION OUT THERE OF HOW THIS MOVES FORWARD.

YES. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

YES, THANK YOU.

AND COMMISSIONER NORTON, YOUR HAND IS RAISED.

YES. THANK YOU, TIFFANY, FOR THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.

THAT HELPS IN MY COMMENT HERE, BECAUSE I KNOW WE WERE GETTING A BIT OUT OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED AT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT STAGE, BUT BEING THAT THIS IS THE ONLY TIME THAT THIS WILL COME BEFORE US, I THINK THESE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ARE IMPORTANT.

SO I WANT TO TAG ON TO SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT COMMISSIONER MANDINO MADE ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY AND ALSO THAT IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THERE WOULD BE AN HOA AND CCNR'S, ETC..

SO I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO LIMIT SHORT TERM RENTALS TO 30 DAYS OR MORE WITHIN THOSE CCNR'S TO KEEP IT AFFORDABLE AND KEEP IT HOUSING FOR OUR RESIDENT COMMUNITY HERE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MANDINO YOUR HAND IS UP.

YES. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE COMMENT ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION CITY OF FLAGSTAFF PAGE APPLICATION FOR SUBDIVISION REVIEW IN CASE LEGALLY IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

THE SITE ADDRESS IS SPELLED WRONG.

SO FOR LEGALITIES, YOU MIGHT WANT TO SPELL GEMINI CORRECTLY.

GOOD CATCH, CAROLE.

YOU ALWAYS HAVE YOUR EYE ON THOSE.

YEAH, THAT'S JUST FOR LEGAL PURPOSES.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER MANDINO, FOR THE QUALITY CONTROL.

MUCH APPRECIATED.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO, GUILLERMO, WE'VE HAD QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE AN OFFICIAL PRESENTATION. DO YOU HAVE ONE OR DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD AS THE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, CHAIR JONES.

WE DO NOT HAVE A PREPARED PRESENTATION.

I THINK WE ARE EXCITED OUR DEVELOPER IS EXCITED TO DO THIS PROJECT.

WE BELIEVE IT PROVIDES ANOTHER PRODUCT OTHER THAN 6000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS OR LARGER AS WE HAVE SEEN LATELY. SO I KNOW THE DEVELOPER IS EXCITED ABOUT BUILDING THIS PRODUCT.

THANK YOU. NEXT, THEN.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS CASE? I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST.

I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS GOING UP.

SO I'LL ASSUME THERE ARE NONE.

AND SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION ON THIS CASE.

IF ANYBODY WANTS TO TAKE A STAB.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

I JUST HAD ANOTHER COMMENT.

WAS THERE DID THERE NOT HAVE TO BE PUBLIC NOTICE THAT WENT OUT ABOUT THIS? THAT'S CORRECT. THIS ACTUALLY ISN'T A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SORRY. THAT'S MY MISTAKE.

I CALLED IT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

IT'S OKAY. I MEAN, IF PUBLIC SHOWED UP, WE WOULD I MEAN, IT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION.

BUT GENERALLY IN THE PAST, WE'VE ALWAYS TAKEN COMMENTS AND COUNCIL DOES THE SAME.

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OKAY. GREAT. YES, I SEE.

IT'S UNDER GENERAL BUSINESS, NOT PUBLIC HEARING.

SO THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING.

HOW DO YOU DETERMINE IT'S GENERAL BUSINESS VERSUS PUBLIC HEARING? SO PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS ARE USUALLY DISCRETIONARY ITEMS AND GENERAL OR SUBDIVISION PLOTS GENERALLY FALL ON ROUTINE OR GENERAL AS THEY'RE SIMPLY A YEAH, THEY'RE USING EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS. WE'RE NOT GRANTING THEM ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT THEIR CURRENT ZONING ALLOWS.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU.

SO DISCRETIONARY DOESN'T JUST MEAN ANYTHING THAT COMES BEFORE THE COMMISSION.

IT'S A PARTICULAR KIND OF DISCRETION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR BECAUSE OF HOW IT'S BEING, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER JONES. I'M SORRY.

SOMETHING THAT COME UP [INAUDIBLE] I LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SETBACKS.

WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVE SETBACKS? ARE THEY GOING TO BE UNIFORM OR DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE? OR CAN YOU ENLIGHTEN ME ON THIS? SURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER.

THEY WILL BE UNIFORM THROUGHOUT THE SUBDIVISION, SO ALL HOUSES WILL NEED TO MEET THE SAME SETBACKS. THE FRONT SETBACK WILL BE A MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET AND A MAXIMUM OF 12 FEET.

THE SIDE SETBACK IS A MINIMUM OF THREE FEET.

THE SIDE STREET IS A MINIMUM OF TEN, A MAXIMUM OF 15, AND THE REAR IS A MINIMUM OF THREE.

HOWEVER, ON ALL OF THE LOTS THERE IS A 15 FOOT OPEN SPACE AREA, SO THEY WILL END UP ESSENTIALLY HAVING A 15 FOOT REAR SETBACK.

THANK YOU, TIFFANY. YOU'RE SO VERY WELCOME.

OKAY. CAN WE MAKE ANY? DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS? IF NOT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO IT AS SOON AS I GET TO THE RIGHT PAGE HERE.

SO I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FINDINGS PRESENTED IN THIS REPORT, FORWARD THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL AND THIS IS PRELIMINARY PLAT PZ-21-00154-01 MMV D3.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO AND I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

THANK YOU. ANY MORE DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? LOOKING ACROSS HERE, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

AND THAT MOTION PASSES.

AND WITH THAT, WE'RE READY TO MOVE TO ITEM B, WHICH IS A WORK SESSION.

[B. Zoning Code Text Amendment PZ-21-00045 Development Agreement Notifications: Request for a work session with the Planning and Zoning Commission to discuss the City's proposed amendment to the Zoning Code to modify the existing public notification requirements for Development Agreements (Section 10-20.40.060). STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: The work session with the Planning and Zoning Commission is required as a “Citizen Review Session” in compliance with Section 10-20.50.040 (Procedures) of the Zoning Code and applicable state law. The purpose of the work session is for staff to present an overview of the proposed amendment, to allow interested residents to provide their ideas, suggestions, and concerns, and for the Commission to ask questions, seek clarification, and discuss the amendment, as well as offer alternate suggestions and ideas. The Commission will take no action at this work session. After the work session, staff will revise the proposed amendment. The amendment will then be presented to the Commission at a public hearing for consideration and action. Once a recommendation is received, a public hearing will be scheduled with the City Council. ]

THIS IS A WORK SESSION REGARDING A ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENT, REGARDING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT NOTIFICATIONS, AND WE'RE READY FOR A PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ONE.

HERE I GO AGAIN. ARE YOU TIRED OF ME YET? I JUST WONDER IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WORKING IN YOUR DEPARTMENT? YEAH. WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA.

ALEX OF COURSE SHE WORKS ALL THE TIME.

YEAH, I HAVE A HUGE SUPPORT TEAM.

YOU JUST HAVE TO FORGIVE ANY LIKE TYPOS IN MY PRESENTATIONS, THAT KIND OF THING.

ANYWAY, LET'S GO ON.

SO THIS. [INAUDIBLE] CATCH THOSE.

THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO ZONING CODE SECTION TEN, 10-20.40.060 60, WHICH IS NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

THIS IS A REALLY QUICK ONE.

SO WE DO NEED TO HOLD A WORK SESSION WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

AND OF COURSE, THIS WILL BE COMING TO YOU FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

NORMALLY, WE WOULD SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH YOU GOING OVER THESE ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS. BUT THIS ONE, THIS IS PRETTY SWIFT.

IT'S PRETTY EASY.

SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO AMEND THE ZONING CODE TO REQUIRE PUBLIC NOTICE BE PROVIDED WHEN APPROVING OR REVISING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

WHAT IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, YOU MIGHT ASK? BECAUSE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DOESN'T ACTUALLY REVIEW DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

THEY ARE LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT BETWEEN A PROPERTY OWNER OR A DEVELOPER AND A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, OFTEN INCLUDING TERMS NOT OTHERWISE REQUIRED THROUGH EXISTING REGULATIONS.

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SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS.

IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, WHAT WE PUT IN THEM.

SO WHEN A DEVELOPER AGREES TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THOSE STIPULATIONS WILL GENERALLY BE PROVIDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY TIME AND TIME AGAIN, LIKE THAT WE CAN'T REALLY REQUIRE A DEVELOPER TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED TO REQUEST.

BUT A LOT OF TIMES, TOO, WE SOLIDIFY THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL ITSELF.

THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL OFTEN STIPULATE TO THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

IT WILL OFTEN STIPULATE TO THE TYPE OF DESIGN OR POTENTIALLY EVEN THE USE OF THE PROPERTY. SO THIS IS COMING IN RESPONSE AND WAS REQUESTED BY CITY COUNCIL BASED ON A RECENT CASE THAT CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

IT CAME IT WAS IN THE PRESIDIO NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WAS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON A PARCEL OF LAND IN HC ZONE. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAD ORIGINALLY REQUIRED THAT THE SITE BE USED OR STIPULATED TO THE USE OF A CHURCH.

THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WENT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL.

IT DID GO THROUGH A PUBLIC MEETING, BUT THAT PUBLIC MEETING WAS NOT NOTICED TO THE OVERALL PUBLIC, AND THAT PROVED TO BE A STRUGGLE AND A CONCERN FOR MANY OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS WHO CAME OUT AND WERE OPPOSED TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

AND I THINK IT CAUSED A LOT OF HEARTBURN AND CONCERN FOR THE DEVELOPER AS WELL.

SO WE CAN SEE ON ALL ENDS WHERE REVISING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR APPROVING A NEW DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SHOULD BE NOTICED.

NEW DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE EASY.

THEY'RE GENERALLY RUNNING CONCURRENT WITH PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE REZONING, BUT NOT ALWAYS. AND SO THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

SO ESSENTIALLY THE PROPOSED TEXT IS SIMPLE, THAT BASICALLY THE NOTICE OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, INCLUDING AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING AGREEMENT PRIOR TO CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT NOTICE OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S PUBLIC MEETING SHALL BE PROVIDED PURSUANT TO THE PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENTS OF THIS OTHER SECTION IN THE CODE.

THAT OTHER SECTION OF THE CODE IS HOW WE NOTICE ALL OF OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS AND FOR REZONING CASES AS WELL.

SO THIS IS A GREAT WAY FOR US TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WITH DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS.

AND OVERALL, I THINK IT WILL LEAD TO A SMOOTHER TRANSITION WHEN THINGS LIKE TRACT [INAUDIBLE] PRESIDIO COME UP IN THE FUTURE.

SO IN THE FUTURE YOU'LL HAVE A STAFF SUMMARY THAT GOES THROUGH THE REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR A ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WE NEED TO FIND IT CONFORMS WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.

WE NEED TO FIND THAT IT'S NOT DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST, HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE. AND WE'LL NEED TO FIND THAT THE AMENDMENT IS INTERNALLY CONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE PROVISIONS BY KEEPING THIS TEXT SIMPLE AND REFERRING TO OTHER PROVISIONS OF THE CODE THAT'S GOING TO HELP US BE CONSISTENT.

THIS HELPS US EXPAND PUBLIC NOTIFICATION.

I WILL NOTE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GENERAL PLAN GOALS AND POLICIES THAT ARE REALLY EASILY DEFINABLE TO THIS TOPIC, BUT IT DOESN'T THERE AREN'T REALLY THERE ISN'T REALLY ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR TEXT AMENDMENT.

SO WITH THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS, THIS WILL BE BEFORE YOU ON YOUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED.

IT'S APRIL 13TH, I BELIEVE, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, AND THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

OKAY. THANKS, TIFFANY.

I'M LOOKING. I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS UP, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION.

IT'S LESS IN REGARD TO THE WORDING OF THIS THAN IT IS TO HOW NOTICES ARE MADE AND HOW PEOPLE FIND OUT ABOUT THEM.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE YOU KNOW WHERE THE NOTICE IS POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IS IN CITY HALL IN THE NEWSPAPER.

AND OF COURSE, IF SOMEBODY IS CHECKING THE AGENDAS FOR P&Z OR COUNCIL.

AND I TOOK A LOOK AND I JUST WONDERED BECAUSE I TOOK A LOOK AT THE WEBSITE THINKING, OH, MAYBE THEY'D HAVE A JUST A PLACE WHERE THEY LISTED ON THE WEBSITE IF IT ISN'T TO, YOU KNOW, INVOLVED TO DO IT.

AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT I SAW THAT UNDER PUBLIC POSTING IT LISTS WHERE THINGS ARE POSTED.

THERE'S NO KIND OF LINK THOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO FIND OUT ABOUT IT.

I MIGHT BE MISSING SOMETHING TOO OR MAYBE IT'S JUST TOO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TOO MUCH TO PUT ON ANY KIND OF WEBSITE.

BUT I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE IDEA OF ACCESSIBILITY, HOW PEOPLE FIND OUT ABOUT THESE

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THINGS. I REMEMBER THIS CASE AND PRESIDIO, AND I THINK I REMEMBER I HEARD COMMENTS THAT HOW WOULD I KNOW ABOUT THIS? HOW WOULD I FIND OUT ABOUT THIS? BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT LOOKING THROUGH THE AGENDAS TO SEE WHAT'S UP.

SO I JUST WONDER IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SURE. SO WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO IS THE POSTING OF AGENDAS, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY HOW WE NOTICE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SO THE NOTIFICATION OF PUBLIC HEARINGS INCLUDES BASICALLY A 12 FOOT SIGN THAT'S POSTED ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

AND DEPENDING UPON THE SIZE AND THE CONFIGURATION OF THE PROPERTY, WE'LL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO INCLUDE SIGNAGE IN THE MOST APPROPRIATE LOCATION WHERE IT WILL BE VIEWED BY THE MOST AMOUNT OF PASSER BY'S.

SO IF IT'S A CORNER LOT, SOMETIMES WE'LL DO TWO SIGNS.

BUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF HAS A VERY LARGE, LEGIBLE SIGN THAT'S POSTED ON IT, AND THAT HAS TO BE DONE 15 DAYS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO ANYBODY WHO LIVES WITHIN THE VICINITY WILL GET IT.

IN ADDITION, WE PUT AN AD IN THE NEWSPAPER AGAIN 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND LASTLY, WE AT A MINIMUM REQUIRE ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300 FEET TO RECEIVE A LETTER. THAT LETTER.

SO VERY RARELY DO WE EVER JUST DO THE 300.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN PRESIDIO, WE ENDED UP DOING THE ENTIRE PRESIDIO SUBDIVISION.

MANY TIMES THAT'S THE CASES.

WE WANT MORE PEOPLE TO BE NOTIFIED.

WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE LOST IN THE SHUFFLE.

BUT HERE'S THE TRICK ABOUT THAT, RIGHT? IT IS PROPERTY OWNERS.

THE TENANTS ONLY ARE INVOLVED OR ONLY GENERALLY NOTIFIED IF THE PROPERTY IF THEY LIVE ON THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

SO IF YOU'RE A TENANT ON A SITE THAT'S GOING THROUGH A REDEVELOPMENT OR A REZONING, YOU'LL BE NOTIFIED THEN.

BUT TYPICALLY WE DON'T NOTIFY TENANTS WHO MIGHT SAY, LIVE IN A HOUSE NEXT DOOR.

THE NOTIFICATION IS GOING TO GO TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO ALSO DO THE NEWSPAPER.

AND WHAT WE DON'T TRY, WE DO WE DO THE NEWSPAPER AND WE DO THAT LARGE POSTED SIGN ON SITE. SO WE'VE REALLY IMPROVED OUR REQUIREMENTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND REQUIRED, IN REGARDS TO THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE EXCLUSIVE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING CASES.

THIS TYPE OF NOTIFICATION IS NOT PROVIDED NECESSARILY ON OTHER PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.

DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM LIKE SUBDIVISION PLATS, BUT IN THIS CASE THEY WILL BE NOTICED LIKE THEY'RE ONE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS WHAT THIS AMENDMENT IS ADDRESSING JUST ADDING CHANGES TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS INTO THAT CATEGORY OF THINGS THAT GET NOTICED.

THAT'S CORRECT. THANKS.

COMMISSIONER NORTON. THAT WAS A GREAT EXPLANATION THAT ANSWERED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS.

ADDITIONALLY, IS IT STILL THE SAME 15 DAY PERIOD? YOU MENTIONED THE SIGNAGE THAT GOES UP WHEN THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING.

WOULD IT ALSO BE A 15 YOU WOULD ATTEMPT TO DO A 15 DAY NOTIFICATION ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CHANGE? AND SECONDLY, I SEE A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT ON SOCIAL PLATFORMS, NOT ONLY FACEBOOK FOR THOSE THAT FOLLOW FLAGSTAFF CITY GOVERNMENT AND SOME OF THOSE PAGES, BUT ALSO LIKE ON NEXT DOOR AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

HAS THE CITY STARTED USING THOSE PLATFORMS TO GET THE WORD OUT ON THINGS LIKE THIS AS WELL? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER NORTON.

YES. THE REQUIREMENT THIS PROVISION WILL SEND YOU TO A REQUIREMENT THAT REQUIRES THAT ALL OF THOSE NOTIFICATIONS TO BE PROVIDED 15 DAYS IN ADVANCE.

AND THESE NOTIFICATIONS ARE THEY'RE NOT MADE UP BY US.

THEY ARE ACTUALLY TAKEN AND DERIVED OUT OF STATE LAW, WHICH SO STATE LAW REQUIRES THESE TYPES OF PUBLIC NOTICES FOR REZONING CASES.

IN TERMS OF THE PLATFORMS, THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS WE HAVE FROM TIME TO TIME USE THEM, WE TEND TO USE THEM MORE FOR ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS BECAUSE THERE REALLY IS NOT AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER FOR US TO NOTIFY.

WE TEND TO USE THEM FOR WE'VE USED THEM WHEN WE REZONED OPEN SPACE CASES.

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THEY'RE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I MEAN, THEY'RE A GREAT WAY TO GET INFORMATION.

THEY'RE ALSO A GREAT WAY TO SPREAD MISINFORMATION.

I'VE FOUND AS WELL, I FREQUENT ALL OF THOSE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS JUST TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON ABOUT OUR CASES IN GENERAL, WHAT THE PUBLIC IS BASICALLY SEEING OR THINKING. BUT WE DO TRY IT'S I WILL TELL YOU, IT CAN BE SOMETIMES A LOT TO MANAGE ON OUR END TO TRY TO DO SOCIAL PLATFORMS IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'RE ALREADY WORKING THROUGH ON A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING TO TOO CONTENTIOUS IN A LITTLE WHILE.

AND RIGHT NOW, THE ZONING CODE ISN'T REALLY REQUIRING THE USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE HORIZON AND A TOOL WE NEED TO GET MORE ADEPT AT USING.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

I THINK BACK TO THAT PRESIDIO CASE AND IN THE SENSE THAT SOME OF THOSE FILTERS CAN BE APPLIED ON WHERE YOU'RE REACHING IN NEXT DOOR, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A GOOD AVENUE FOR THAT AND POTENTIALLY FOR FUTURE NOTIFICATIONS.

JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP AND SEE WHERE THINGS WERE WITH THAT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COMMENTS HERE.

I GUESS WE'LL JUST LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS ON OUR AGENDA NEXT TIME.

AND SO WITH THAT, THAT LEAVES US WITH MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS TO AND FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS

[7. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS TO/FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS]

. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ITEMS TO PRESENT TO STAFF.

COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

YEAH, THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS OR IF WE'RE GOING TO STAY ON A VIRTUAL BASIS.

FOR NOW, WE'RE STAYING VIRTUAL.

BUT THERE IS THINGS HERE AT CITY HALL THAT WE MIGHT BE GOING BACK TO IN-PERSON OR MORE LIKELY SOME SORT OF HYBRID, VIRTUAL IN-PERSON COMBINATION THAT REQUIRES PEOPLE LIKE ME TO GET TRAINED ON HOW TO RUN THOSE TYPES OF MEETINGS IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

SO I THINK THAT'S COMING.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY, I THINK AT OUR NEXT MEETING I'D LIKE TO AGENDIZE ELECTING A NEW CHAIR. SO.

SO EVERYONE SHOULD TRY AND MAKE THAT MEETING SO WE CAN DO THAT.

AND AS WELL, THE WEATHER'S STARTING TO GET REALLY NICE.

SO WE SHOULD DEFINITELY WE SHOULD GET TOGETHER.

SO KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR EMAIL FOR THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU.

THAT'S THE END OF OUR MEETING.

SO WE'LL ADJOURN AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

AND ALSO, ALEX, I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO DISMISS YOU.

I KNOW YOU WORK THERE AND WORK REALLY HARD THERE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.