Jun 14, 2022 City Council Work Session

>> EXCELLENT. TODAY IS JUNE 14TH,

[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this work session, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]

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NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE MAY GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LEGAL ADVICE ON ANY OF THE AGENDIZED ITEMS. ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>> MAYOR DEASY.

>> HERE.

>> VICE MAYOR SWEET.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER ASLAN.

>> PRESENT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER SALAS.

>> PRESENT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI.

>> HERE.

>> VICE MAYOR, WILL YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE.

>> PLEASE STAND.

>> THANK YOU, AND THE MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.

COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE, OUR LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT, PLEASE?

>> IT'S MY HONOR MR. MAYOR.

THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THIS AREA'S INDIGENOUS NATIONS AND ORIGINAL STEWARDS.

THESE LANDS, STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS, BORDER MOUNTAINS SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.

WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.

WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE AS HOME.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.

[4. Public Participation Public Participation enables the public to address the council about items that are not on the prepared agenda. Public Participation appears on the agenda twice, at the beginning and at the end of the work session. You may speak at one or the other, but not both. Anyone wishing to comment at the meeting is asked to fill out a speaker card and submit it to the recording clerk. When the item comes up on the agenda, your name will be called. You may address the Council up to three times throughout the meeting, including comments made during Public Participation. Please limit your remarks to three minutes per item to allow everyone to have an opportunity to speak. At the discretion of the Chair, ten or more persons present at the meeting and wishing to speak may appoint a representative who may have no more than fifteen minutes to speak.]

I DO SEE WE HAVE ONE, JOHN NORMAN.

>> AFTERNOON COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

MY NAME IS JOHN NORMAN.

I'M UNDER WATER COMMISSION AND I JUST WANTED TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE EVENTS RELATING TO THE FIRE.

HOPEFULLY THIS TOPIC WILL COME UP AT THE WATER COMMISSION MEETING THIS THURSDAY.

I'LL JUST READ THIS STATEMENT OF MY EMAIL THAT I SENT TO THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE.

FLAGSTAFF HAS BEEN WATCHING WITH HORROR THE NEW FIRES.

THIS IS HARD TO WATCH.

ALONG WITH ALL THE FOLKS IN DOING THE PARK AT RISK.

THE FIRE HAS NOW BURNED ENOUGH OF SCHULTZ CREEK WATERSHED TO THE TOP OF FREMONT PEAK THAT WE COULD SEE FLOODING ON THE WEST SIDE OF FLAGSTAFF.

THE FIRE HAS ALSO BURNED INTO THE INNER BASIN.

THERE'S A STRONG POSSIBILITY OF MORE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE PEAKS AND INNER BASE AND ALONG WITH THE EAST SIDE OF THE PEAKS, WILL BURN EVEN MORE.

I'LL CUT TO THE CHASE.

DEPENDING UPON THE BURN INTENSITY, WE MAY LOSE INNER BASE AND WATER STRUCTURE DUE TO THE FIRE OR THE FLOODS THAT WILL FOLLOW.

ALSO CHESHIRE, COCONINO ESTATES AND DOWNTOWNS, MAYBE SOUTHSIDE COULD BE AT RISK OF FLOODING IN A FEW DAYS, WEEKS, MONTHS, OR FEW YEARS.

DEPENDS UPON WHAT GOD GIVES US.

WE CAME CLOSE IN JULY IN COCONINO ESTATES TO GETTING A FLOOD.

THERE WAS JUST THAT FAR BELOW THE BRIDGE, AND IF WE'D GOTTEN A LITTLE MORE RAIN THEN IT WOULD HAVE GONE UP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THAT WAS WITHOUT A BURN SCAR.

WITH THE BURN SCAR, I'M REALLY WORRIED.

I'M HOPING THE WATER COMMISSION WILL REVIEW THIS INFORMATION ON THURSDAY AND THE CITY COUNCIL GIVE THIS SOME THOUGHT VERY SOON.

THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU JOHN. MUCH APPRECIATE IT.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION? THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 5,

[5. Review of Draft Agenda for the June 21, 2022 City Council Meeting Citizens wishing to speak on agenda items not specifically called out by the City Council may submit a speaker card for their items of interest to the recording clerk.]

ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? [NOISE] THANK YOU. WITH THAT,

[6. Proclamation: Junteenth]

COUNCIL YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP FRONT, AND MS. HARRIS AS WELL IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME OR YOUR SON.

[NOISE] THANK YOU, KINDLY.

[LAUGHTER] JUNE 19TH 2022, BEST-KNOWN AS JUNETEENTH OR FREEDOM DAY MARKED THE 155TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE ARRIVAL OF UNION GENERAL GORDON GRANGER IN GALVESTON, TEXAS.

WHERE TWO-AND-HALF YEARS AFTER THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, AFRICAN AMERICANS LEARNED OF THE END OF ENSLAVEMENT.

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FROM SEGREGATION TO VOTER DISENFRANCHISEMENT, FROM MASS INCARCERATION TO WRONGFULLY INFLICTED VIOLENCE UPON THE INNOCENT WHO FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM AS CAPTURED BY MEDIA IN SELMA, ALABAMA.

AT THE EDMUND PETTUS BRIDGE OR THE IMAGES OF CHILDREN, NOW PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS WHO IN BIRMINGHAM, AMONG COUNTLESS EXAMPLES, ENDURED THE BITES AND ANGUISH OF UNLEASHED DOGS.

WE MUST COLLECTIVELY STRIVE TO CLOSE GAPS TO THE MEASURABLE DISTANCE, BETWEEN US AND AFFIRM THE PROMISE OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE THAT ALL PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, AND HOLD THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT MUST BE TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS FOR ALL.

MUST REJECT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES TO UNDERSTAND AND LEARN FROM OUR FRANK AND COMPLEX CONVERSATIONS.

JUNETEENTH THROUGH AUGUST 25TH, 2022 WILL SERVE AS BENCHMARKS TO ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUAL AND COLLECTIVE REFLECTION AND TRANSFORMATION.

IT IS THROUGH LEADERSHIP ENCOURAGE THAT WE EACH HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO CONFRONT ENTRENCHMENTS WHICH PERPETUATE INJUSTICE OR THREAT TO AMERICA'S TRUE GREATNESS.

THEREFORE I PAUL DEASY MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, RESPECTFULLY JOIN MUNICIPAL LEADERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN SPIRIT AND SOLIDARITY.

BY PROCLAMATION, I THEREBY ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO HONORS JUNE 19TH THROUGH AUGUST 25TH, 2022 AS A PERIOD OF REFLECTION, CULTURAL AND PUBLIC EDUCATION, ERNEST ASSESSMENT, PLANNING AND COMMITMENT TO END SYSTEMIC RACISM AND ALL FORMS OF DEHUMANIZATION WHICH THREATEN EQUALITY AND FREEDOM FOR ALL.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> SURE. GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU MAYOR DEASY AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS DEBORAH HARRIS I SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE SOUTHSIDE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.

WE ALONG WITH THE COCONINO COUNTY AFRICAN DIASPORA ADVISORY COUNCIL SPONSORED THE JUNETEENTH EVENT ALONG WITH A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THE EVENT IS SATURDAY AT 10 O'CLOCK.

I'M SORRY TO SAY EIGHT O'CLOCK, FROM 10 O'CLOCK TO FOUR O'CLOCK AT THE MURDOCH COMMUNITY CENTER AND YOU'RE ALL INVITED TO COME OUT AND ENJOY THE ENTERTAINMENT.

THIS IS TRULY A FLAGSTAFF EVENT.

WE HAVE BEEN CELEBRATING JUNETEENTH IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF FOR OVER 60 YEARS.

WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AND TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT MAYOR DEASY READ ON THE PROCLAMATION.

WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL OF YOU THERE. IT'S FREE.

WE INTEND IT TO FOREVER BE FREE FOR OUR FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER AS COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[APPLAUSE]

>> DR. GUTHRIE. YES, PLEASE COME ON.

YOU NEED TO COME UP.YOU'RE A BIG PART OF THIS.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THIS IS OUR LOCAL HISTORIAN.

EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT JUNETEENTH IN THE SOUTH SIDE IS DR. GUTHRIE.

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[7. City Manager Report Information Only]

>> THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 7, OUR CITY MANAGER REPORT. CITY MANAGER.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

THIS REPORT INCLUDES A FEW UPDATES AND THEN HAS APPENDED TO IT, A MONTHLY REPORT FROM SUSTAINABILITY AND THE LATEST FROM CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT INCLUDES A MAP.

WITH RESPECT TO THE REPORT AND I WILL CALL ONE ITEM OUT FOR DISCUSSION, THAT'S ITEM 7A, BUT IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER WOULD LIKE TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THE CONTENTS IN THE REPORT, INCLUDING THE HEART OF GOLD AWARDS TO OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, ROBERT BROWN, AND EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT CAROL HARVEY.

EACH RECOGNIZED BY THE COCONINO COUNTY VICTIM WITNESS SERVICES, WHICH IS NOW KNOWN AS NORTHERN ARIZONA VICTIM WITNESS SERVICES.

IT'S AMAZING I COULD READ THAT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES, BUT THOSE TWO EMPLOYEES RECEIVED THE HEART OF GOLD AWARDS FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN ASSISTING VICTIM WITNESSES.

STERLING, YOU MUST FEEL VERY HONORED TO HAVE

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>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I ALSO JUST WANT TO EXTEND APPRECIATION TO ROBERT BROWN SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO BE STEPPING INTO THE ROLE OF ACTING CITY PROSECUTOR, WHICH HE HAS DONE VERY WELL TWICE PREVIOUSLY WHILE SEARCHES WERE ONGOING FOR PREVIOUS CITY PROSECUTORS.

ROBERT AND CAROL ARE JUST ABSOLUTELY INSTRUMENTAL IN KEEPING THE PROSECUTION SECTION GOING.

THESE HEART OF GOLD AWARDS ARE EVIDENCE OF THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ALSO RECIPIENTS OF THIS PRESTIGIOUS AWARD, WE HAVE DETECTIVE JOE GILBERT WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND HE'S ACCOMPANIED BY DETECTIVE TODD MARTINEZ, WHO WAS ALSO AWARDED BOTH, AGAIN, HONORED BY THE VICTIM WITNESSES SERVICE OF NORTHERN ARIZONA FOR THE HEART OF GOLD RECIPIENTS.

CITY OF FLAGSTAFF WAS WELL REPRESENTED IN THESE AWARDS WITH TWO RECIPIENTS OUT OF OUR LEGAL TEAM AND TWO RECIPIENTS OUT OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TEAM.

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL.

ONE LAST TIME I WANT TO TAKE NOTE OF A VERY COOL EVENT THAT OCCURRED ON THURSDAY.

THAT WAS THE VERY NICE AND WELL-ATTENDED SEND-OFF FOR RICK BARRETT WHO IS NOW ON HIS WAY INTO RETIREMENT.

WE WISH HIM THE BEST.

LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS MADE AND SOME SPEECHES AND ACCOLADES AND LOTS OF PATS ON THE BACK, WELL DESERVED.

THE CAPITAL PROJECTS MONTHLY THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR REPORT TONIGHT WILL BE PRESENTED BY JEFF BOWMAN OR TREVOR HENRY.

I'M NOT SURE WHO, BUT ONE OF THOSE GENTLEMEN, I'M SURE WILL BE SPEAKING TO THAT.

A QUICK UPDATE, JUST A PHOTO SHOT AND A QUICK BLURB ON THE BNSF CONFERENCE THAT OCCURRED IN FLAGSTAFF LAST WEEK.

WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SNEAK IN THE DOORS ON THAT AND TOOK A PICTURE OF A PRESENTATION BY CHRISTINE CAMERON TO THE GROUP.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINE, FOR REPRESENTING THE CITY.

SPEAKING OF REPRESENTING THE CITY, WE HAD THE SECOND EVENT FALLING UNDER THE CITY VOLUNTEER DAYS ON JUNE 4TH THAT OCCURRED IN BOTH THE SUNNYSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE GRANDVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE WERE REFRESHING SANDBAGS, A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING, A LOT OF DIRTY WORK.

VERY IMPORTANT GOING BACK TO THE COMMENTS JUST SHARED A SHORT WHILE AGO BY OUR WATER COMMISSIONER.

THESE EFFORTS WILL CONTINUE THIS WEEKEND.

WE HAVE ANOTHER EVENT, JUNE 18TH, SATURDAY.

WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THAT AS WE SPEAK.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY OUT THERE THIS WEEKEND.

I JUST WANT TO THANK THE MANY PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP, CITY EMPLOYEES, THEIR FAMILIES, AND FRIENDS.

IT WAS WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT KIND OF EFFORT TAKING PLACE IN THE STREETS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT NEED A LITTLE BIT OF HELP RIGHT NOW IN PREPARATION OF THE UPCOMING MONSOON SEASON.

SOME PICTURES IN THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT ALONG WITH THE FLYER FOR THIS UPCOMING SATURDAY, JUNE 18TH.

LITTLE TIDBIT IN YOUR REPORT HERE ABOUT THE AIRPORT POND ISSUE GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1990.

I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST.

WE'LL TRY TO DO THIS FROM TIME TO TIME, WALK BACK IN HISTORY.

ALWAYS RELEVANT TO SEE WHERE WE'VE BEEN, TO EXPLAIN WHERE WE ARE.

FINALLY, IF I MAY, THE ITEM I WANTED TO CALL OUT FOR DISCUSSION IS THE WATER-SMART GRANT.

LITTLE BACKDROP TO THIS AND I'M GOING TO DO A LITTLE HANDOFF TO ERIN YOUNG AND OTHERS TO HELP PRESENT ON THIS.

I BELIEVE ERIN HAS A PRESENTATION QUEUED UP.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET ON THIS.

I JUST WANTED TO STATE AT THE OUTSET COMING TO THE COUNCIL WITH THESE MATTERS, WHICH ON THEIR FACE APPEAR TO BE ADMINISTRATIVE, THE SUBMITTAL OF A GRANT, PURSUANT TO EXISTING POLICY, WE KNOW IT'S OF INTEREST TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY SO WE SLATED IT, CALLED IT OUT FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME.

WE DO SO GRATUITOUSLY AS WE WANT IT TO BE A VERY TRANSPARENT PROCESS.

I THINK AFTER ERIN SPEAKS AND AFTER YOU'VE HAD ALL YOUR COMMENTS RECEIVED, WELL, OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE PURSUE THE GRANT APPLICATION.

WE WOULD LIKE YOUR INPUT ON WHETHER TO PROCEED OR NOT.

I THINK IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE, ONE OF TWO WAYS TO GO THERE.

BUT WITH THAT, I'M NOT SURE IF ERIN IS ONLINE OR BEHIND ME IN PERSON.

APPARENTLY, SHE'S BEHIND ME. THANK YOU, ERIN.

>> SOMEONE GO GET HIS GLASSES.

JUST TEASING YOU. [LAUGHTER]

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>> THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER CLIFTON.

ERIN YOUNG, WATER RESOURCES MANAGER FOR WATER SERVICES.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT.

IT IS IMPORTANT WE GET YOUR FEEDBACK SOONER THAN LATER BECAUSE THESE ARE QUITE AN EFFORT TO APPLY FOR.

[NOISE] THE GOAL THIS EVENING IS TO SEEK YOUR SUPPORT TO SUBMIT THIS GRANT TOMORROW BY 4:00 PM.

A FORMAL RESOLUTION IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED WITHIN 30 DAYS OF GRANTS [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT APPLIED FOR ONE OF THESE IN A REALLY LONG TIME, WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THAT CITY MANAGER CLIFTON UNTIL YESTERDAY THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE A RESOLUTION FROM CITY COUNCIL WITHIN 30 DAYS.

DEMONSTRATING A FINANCIAL COMMITMENT IF WE ARE AWARDED THE GRANT, THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY IN A YEAR TO ACCEPT THE AWARD.

THERE ARE TWO MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONSIDER THIS GRANT AND ITS AWARD.

[NOISE] THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT IS THROUGH ACTUALLY THE BUREAU OF RECLAMATION.

THEIR MISSION IS TO MANAGE, DEVELOP, AND PROTECT WATER AND RELATED RESOURCES IN AN ENVIRONMENTALLY AND ECONOMICALLY SOUND MANNER IN THE INTERESTS OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.

THE DROUGHT RESPONSE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE APPLYING UNDER IS CALLED THE DROUGHT RESILIENCY GRANT, LISTS SEVERAL BULLET POINTS ON EXAMPLE PROJECTS, ONE OF THEM BEING RECHARGE AND RECOVERY ACT.

RIGHT AWAY I'M LIKE, OKAY I THINK WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT ALIGN WITH THIS.

OUR 2014 COUNCIL ADOPTED WATER POLICIES, INCLUDES AQUIFER RECHARGE AND RECOVERY AS AN APPROACH TO DROUGHT MITIGATION AMONG OTHER BENEFITS AND ACT FOR RECHARGE AND RECOVERY IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS THROUGH OUR DESIGNATION OF ADEQUATE WATER SUPPLY THROUGH THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES AS A WATER MANAGEMENT TOOL.

WE'LL BE SEEKING WHAT'S CALLED AN UNDERGROUND STORAGE FACILITY PERMIT AND RECOVERY PERMITS THROUGH THE STATE THAT LEGITIMIZES WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR ACTUALLY 20-30 YEARS.

[NOISE] I'D LIKE TO JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE PROJECT.

[NOISE] LET'S SEE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE? YES, YOU CAN SEE MY POINTER.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A MAP OF FLAGSTAFF, AND HERE WE ARE AT CITY HALL.

OUR RIO DE FLAG WATER RECLAMATION PLANT IS IN THE CENTER OF TOWN.

IT DISCHARGES UNUSED RECLAIMED WATER, SO THERE'S A LOT OF VOLUME IN THE WINTER MONTHS AND NOT SO MUCH OF VOLUME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OUR CUSTOMERS ARE TAKING ALL THE WATER WE CAN PRODUCE.

WATER THAT IS UNUSED IS DISCHARGED UNDER I40 TO THE I40 WETLANDS AND WATER FLOWS FOR SEVERAL MILES IN THE RIO DE FLAG.

I'LL JUST SAY LIKE 10 YEARS AGO WHEN [NOISE] I STARTED WORKING HERE, THIS WAS ONE OF MY TASKS WAS TO GET AN UNDERGROUND STORAGE FACILITY PERMIT FOR RECHARGE AND RECOVERY, BUT IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO PROVE WITHIN THAT 2-3-MILE STRETCH THAT AQUIFER RECHARGE WAS OCCURRING.

SINCE THAT TIME, I'VE BEEN COLLECTING DATA TO DEMONSTRATE IF THERE ARE OTHER AREAS IN FLAGSTAFF ACT FOR RECHARGE AND RECOVERY IS FEASIBLE AND 10 YEARS FAST-FORWARD, I'VE COLLECTED A LOT OF DATA, I'VE TALKED WITH ADWR AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SOLID PROJECT.

WE WOULD NEED TO MOVE THE MAJORITY OF DISCHARGE TO TWO NEW LOCATIONS WE'VE IDENTIFIED ALONG LONE TREE ROAD, SINCLAIR WASH AND BOW & ARROW WASH WHERE WE CAN DISCHARGE RECLAIMED WATER WITHIN AREAS WHERE THE GEOLOGY SEEMS TO BE VERY [NOISE] FRACTURED ENOUGH THAT WATER IS GOING DOWN INTO THE AQUIFER WITHIN A DISTANCE THAT WE CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT WITH A NUMBER OF TOOLS, GEOPHYSICS AND GROUNDWATER MODELING.

THIS LOCATION WAS CHOSEN BECAUSE THE RECLAIMED WATER LINE FOLLOWS LONE TREE AND WE HAD TO FIND LOCATIONS WHERE WE ALREADY HAD RECLAIMED WATER AVAILABLE OTHERWISE, THERE'D BE AN ADDED COST OF [NOISE] BUILDING AND RECLAIMED WATER PIPELINE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

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THE OTHER PART OF THE PROJECT IS DRILLING A RECOVERY WELL.

WE'RE PROPOSING CANON DEL RIO AS THE LOCATION.

WE HAVE TWO SITES IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH CANON DEL RIO, I'VE MET WITH THEM.

WE FOUND A LOCATION THAT THERE IS FAVORABLE FOR THEM.

THE WELL IS DOWN GRADIENT ALONG WITH 1,2,3,4,5,6 THE WELL SHOWN IN YELLOW ARE ALL EXISTING WELLS THAT ARE WITHIN THE RECOVERY AREA OF RECHARGE.

WE'D BE ADDING ANOTHER WELL.

[NOISE] THE WELL DRILLING PROJECT OF 4.3 MILLION IS OUR COST SHARE TO RECEIVE 50 PERCENT MATCH FROM THE BUREAU OF RECLAMATION TO INSTALL THESE OUTFALLS.

PART OF THE PROGRAM IS THEY WANT TO SUPPORT PROJECTS THAT ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND, MAYBE WEREN'T PLANNED AND THIS IS DEFINITELY A PROJECT I DO NOT HAVE IN THE BUDGET.

[NOISE] WITH THAT, I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO INVITE THE CHAIR OF OUR WATER COMMISSION, TO SHARE HIS PERSPECTIVE OF THE WATER COMMISSION MEETING THAT WE HAD IN MAY ON THIS TOPIC WHERE I PROVIDED A MUCH LENGTHIER PRESENTATION AND THEY HAD A LOT OF QUESTION AND ANSWER FOR STAFF.

WITH THAT CHAIRMAN [INAUDIBLE], WOULD YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, ERIN AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

I'M A RELATIVELY NEW CHAIRMAN FOR THE GROUP AND IT'S EXCITING TO BE PART OF THE CITY AND THE PLANNING FOR LONG-TERM PLANNING OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH OUR WATER ASSETS AND SEWAGE AND OUR STORM WATER IS VERY INTERESTING TO DEAL WITH AND MANAGE.

I'D SAY WE HAD A VERY ROBUST MEETING AND SOME OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY DISCUSSED ARE THE FOLLOWING.

FIRST OFF, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE RECEIVE THIS GRANT, THIS IS NOT TAKING AWAY MATERIAL RESOURCES AND OTHER AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO NEED SUPPORT AND FOCUS AS WE GO FORWARD, SEWAGE, STORM WATER.

THE FEEDBACK WAS THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND THIS AT THE SAME TIME.

FROM A COMMISSION STANDPOINT, WE'RE MORE INTERESTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE OPTIMIZE THE RECHARGE POSITIONS FOR THEIR EFFICIENCY MORE THAN YOU'LL HEAR SOME LETTERS ABOUT IT'LL BE NICE TO HAVE THE WATER FLOWING THROUGH CERTAIN PARTS OF TOWN.

THAT'S NICE, BUT WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WE'RE VERY EFFICIENT IN TERMS OF WHERE REPLACING THE WATER SO WE GET THE MEASUREMENTS THAT AREA NEEDS AND WE CAN ALSO EFFICIENTLY TEST FOR ARE WE SEEING ANY OTHER POLLUTANTS COMING ALONG.

THIS IS THE KEY THING. LOTS OF DISCUSSION ABOUT CECS.

WHERE ARE THEY? WHAT ARE THEY? DO THEY EXIST? I THINK ONE THING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO FOR OURSELVES IS IDENTIFY THE CEC'S WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT FOR FLAGS TO AFFIRM WITH THE WATER THAT WE'RE SEEING OUT OF THE RECLAIMED WATER AND THEN DEVELOP STANDARDS THAT WE THINK ARE GOOD ENOUGH BECAUSE MOST OF THIS IS NOT REGULATED AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF REALLY SET STANDARDS AT THIS POINT AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL AND STATE, OR COUNTY.

THERE IS DISCUSSION STILL GOING THAT I THINK WOULD NEED TO BE CONCURRENT WITH THIS ABOUT IS THERE A WAY TO POTENTIALLY TREAT THE A PLUS WATER FURTHER IN A COST-EFFECTIVE AND PRODUCTIVE MANNER.

ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES AT THE FLAGSTAFF WATER GROUP ARE LOOKING INTO THAT, ERIN'S TEAM IS LOOKING AT THAT VERY AGGRESSIVELY, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME MORE DATA ON THAT SHORTLY AND TOGETHER WITH THAT, WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN EVEN TRY TO KNOCK THAT DOWN FURTHER.

BUT THE STAGING OF THIS, IN MY MIND IS FIRST YOU WANT TO GET IN LINE [LAUGHTER] AND PUT IN THE GRANT APPLICATION, THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS AND AS ERIN POINTED OUT, WE'VE GOT ANOTHER MILESTONE DATE IN A YEAR TO ACTUALLY ACCEPT THE GROUND OR NOT.

THERE'S SOME WORK TO BE DONE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

THIS THE WAY THAT WE'RE REVIEWING THIS AS THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. [NOISE]

>> MAYOR.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON YOUR FRONT?

>> WELL, I JUST HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE.

>> GO FOR IT.

>>THEN WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

THE WATER COMMISSION DID ENDORSE THE APPLICATION 5:1.

CONCERNS HEARD FROM SEVERAL IN THE COMMUNITY AND ONE COMMISSIONER ARE AROUND WATER QUALITY.

STAFF'S POSITION IS THAT WATER QUALITY IS A PROCESS THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM SMART DROUGHT MANAGEMENT, WATER MANAGEMENT ACTIONS.

WE MEET AND EXCEED THE QUALITY ALREADY OF RECLAIMED WATER.

WE ARE TESTING ADDITIONAL CONSTITUENTS.

WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH TIME.

WE ARE SEEN AS LEADERS AROUND THE STATE IN REUSE FOR THE ADDITIONAL WORK WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND WE WANT TO REMAIN LEADERS.

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LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THE APPLICATION HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FROM THE LIST UP ON THE SCREEN.

ARIZONA GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT, FRIENDS OF THE RIO DE FLAG, NAU, ASU KYL CENTER FOR WATER POLICY, SENATOR SINEMA AND KELLY AND CONGRESSMAN O'HALLERAN.

THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND WATER-RELATED ENTITIES UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF PROJECTS LIKE THIS TO OUR LONG-TERM WATER SUSTAINABILITY.

WITH THAT, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE AS BACKGROUND, AND WE'RE HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GO TO QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS.

WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF CARDS AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THOSE ONLINE. ROBERT VEIN.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS ROBERT VEIN AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE FLAGSTAFF WATER GROUP.

OUR GROUP IS OPPOSED TO THE GRANT PROPOSAL IN ITS PRESENT FORM.

HERE'S WHY. MOST IMPORTANT, IT'S A LONG-TERM HUMAN HEALTH RISK WE SHOULDN'T TAKE.

CHEMICAL CONTAMINANTS AND WASTEWATER COME FROM SUCH THINGS AS PHARMACEUTICALS, PERSONAL CARE PRODUCTS, HERBICIDES AND PESTICIDES, INDUSTRIAL SOLVENTS AND FLAME RETARDANTS.

WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS SUCH AS THOSE IN FLAGSTAFF, FOCUS ON REMOVAL OF BIOLOGICAL CONTAMINANTS AND DO LITTLE TO REMOVE THOSE CHEMICALS.

THE GRANT PROPOSAL IS TO PURPOSELY SEND RECLAIMED WATER ALONG WITH ITS CONTAMINANTS TO THE AQUIFER WHERE IT MAY BE RE-ENTRAINED IN OUR POTABLE WATER SUPPLY THROUGH A NEARBY RECOVERY WELL.

THE STATE WOULD LIKELY APPROVE THE PLAN, BUT WE KNOW THAT REGULATIONS ARE DECADES BEHIND IN PROTECTING THE PUBLIC.

PFAS COMPOUNDS ARE THE LATEST EXAMPLES LIKE DDT AND PERCHLORATE AND GLYPHOSPHATE THAT CAME BEFORE.

HEALTH IMPACTS WERE IGNORED FOR DECADES, AND NOW THE PROPOSED FEDERAL GUIDELINE LIMIT FOR PFAS COMPOUNDS IS 70 PARTS PER TRILLION.

DOES ANYONE THINK THAT PFAS COMPOUNDS ARE THE END OF THE STORY? SECOND, THERE ARE PROCESS ISSUES WITH THE GRANT PROPOSAL.

THE PROJECT IS BEING PROPOSED WHEN PHASE 2 OF THE RECLAIMED WATER MASTER PLAN HAS NOT YET BEGUN.

IF THE CITY IMPLEMENTS A STREAM BED AMENITY, IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO REMOVE IF RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MADE FOR SMARTER USES OF THE WATER.

IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSAL REPUDIATES RESULTS OF THE CITIZENS RECLAIMED WATER STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE FROM PART 1 OF THE RECLAIMED WATER STUDY.

THAT GROUP DEFINED AND RANKED SEVEN WATER SYSTEM VALUES AND PLACED HEALTH AND SAFETY AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.

THEY ALSO RANKED A LIST OF RECLAIMED WATER ALTERNATIVES.

THE TOP THREE ALL INCLUDED ADVANCED TREATMENT, WHICH IS THE KEY ELEMENT MISSING FROM THIS PROPOSAL.

WHILE THE RANKINGS WERE PRELIMINARY, THEY WERE THE MOST IN-DEPTH PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT WATER SURFACES HAS MADE TO DATE.

THIRD, THERE ARE TECHNICAL ISSUES.

HYDROGEOLOGY AT THE PERCOLATION AREA IS UNDER INVESTIGATION.

WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW FILTRATION EFFECTIVENESS AND TRAVEL TIMES TO THE AQUIFER.

FINALLY, THE WATER SMART GRANT REQUIRES 50 PERCENT MATCHING FUNDS FROM THE CITY.

WATER SURFACES IS PROPOSING TO USE A PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED NEW WELL AS THE SOURCE OF THOSE FUNDS.

YOU'VE HEARD SEPARATELY IN BOND PROPOSAL DISCUSSIONS THOUGH, THAT WATER SERVICES HAS URGENT WASTEWATER TREATMENT NEEDS, THAT MAY BE A HIGHER PRIORITY.

NOW, IF DESPITE MY COMMENTS YOU BELIEVE YOU WANT TO PROCEED, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES OR ONE OR MORE OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL DESCRIBE A MODIFICATION TO THE GRANT PROPOSAL THAT WE COULD SUPPORT AND THAT WOULD PLACE FLAGSTAFF IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION ON WATER REUSE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU ROBERT. WARD DAVIS.

>> MY NAME IS WARD DAVIS.

I LIVED IN FLAGSTAFF FOR 18 YEARS.

I'M A CHEMICAL ENGINEER AND A FORMER MEMBER OF THE FLAGSTAFF WATER COMMISSION.

WE WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT THIS WHOLEHEARTEDLY, BUT WE REALLY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CECS THAT WE'RE AGGRAVATING THE SITUATION BY PUTTING IT WHERE MORE OF IT IS GOING TO COME TO US TO DRINK.

WE KNOW THAT THE CECS HAVE BEEN FOUND IN OUR WATER.

IN OUR RECLAIM, THE QUANTITY SEEM SMALL, BUT THE AMOUNTS ARE ENOUGH TO CAUSE SERIOUS ILLNESS OVER YEARS OF EXPOSURE,

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YOU'VE HEARD THAT THE CECS ARE NOT REGULATED AND THAT'S CERTAINLY TRUE.

THERE'S MANY HUNDREDS OF THEM AND THERE'S REALLY NO PRACTICAL WAY OF TESTING FOR THEIR EFFECT ON HUMANS.

THE CONVENTIONAL REGULATIONS JUST DON'T WORK WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO QUANTIFY EACH CONTAMINANT, AND THE NEW METHODS JUST AREN'T READY YET.

NOT HAVING REGULATIONS IS NOT A REASON TO IGNORE THE REMOVAL OF THE CECS.

AS YOU'VE HEARD, THE CECS ARE NOT REMOVED IN A NORMAL TREATMENT PLANT.

NEUROBIOLOGY HAS EVOLVED TO REMOVE THEM.

SO WE WILL EVENTUALLY BE DRINKING MUCH OF THE CECS WE PUT INTO THE AQUIFER.

THE TREATMENT FOR THE REMOVAL OF CECS IS RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE, ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO DIRECT AND INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE.

THIS IS BECAUSE THOSE PROCESSES HAVE TO REMOVE ANY LIVING BIOLOGICAL MATERIAL THAT COULD CAUSE ILLNESSES IN HOURS OR DAYS.

REMOVING THE CECS IS MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE, AND WE BELIEVE A PILOT PROGRAM WOULD COST UNDER A MILLION AND A HALF.

WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THESE FOR YEARS.

THE IPR, THE DPR, AND ESPECIALLY THE TREATMENT FOR RECLAIMED WATER, BECAUSE IT'S UNUSUAL.

OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T DOING THIS REGULARLY.

WE'VE COME UP WITH SOME PLANS.

WE THINK THEY'RE UNDER A MILLION AND A HALF.

JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE, THE WATER SERVICES BUDGET IS 43 MILLION AND THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN IS 161, SO DOING SOMETHING WITH THE CECS SEEM TO MAKE SENSE TO US.

WE THINK THAT SOME FORM OF CEC REMOVAL SHOULD BE INCLUDED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU WARD. GEORGE GLADNICK.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M GEORGE GLADNICK.

I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE FLAGSTAFF WATER GROUP SINCE 2012.

I'M A SCIENTIST.

I HAVE AN EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND IN ANALYTIC INSTRUMENT AND LABORATORY TESTING FIELD AS WELL AS FOUR YEARS WITH US WATER.

SPENT MY LAST 10 YEARS WORKING ON ADVANCED WATER TREATMENT TECHNOLOGIES.

AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM ROB VEIN AND WARD DAVIS ABOUT WHY THE FLAGSTAFF WATER GROUP IS SO CONCERNED ABOUT USING A-PLUS RECLAIMED WATER FOR SEA AQUIFER RECHARGE WITHOUT FURTHER TREATMENT AND WHY WE'RE SO STRONGLY OPPOSED TO IT, THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE IS WHAT ADDITIONAL TREATMENT CAN BE DONE TO COST-EFFECTIVELY PREVENT AQUIFER CONTAMINATION, EVEN THOUGH CURRENT ADEQ A-PLUS RECLAIM REGULATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE IT NOW.

THE FLAGSTAFF WATER GROUP BEGAN INFORMING WATER SERVICES IN THE CITY ABOUT NEW ADVANCED TREATMENT TECHNOLOGIES COMMERCIALLY PROVEN IN THE EU AND ASIA, BUT NOT USED IN THE US OVER FIVE YEARS AGO, WHICH COULD BE EMPLOYED IN PILOT DEMONSTRATIONS TO VALIDATE PERFORMANCE AND COST ADVANTAGES.

THE GOAL IS TO REMOVE AND DESTROY UP TO 99 PERCENT OR MORE OF THE CECS FOUND IN THE CITIES A-PLUS RECLAIMED WASTEWATER BEFORE DISCHARGE WITHOUT USING ANY EXPENSIVE FORWARD OR REVERSE OSMOSIS, MEMBRANE, IPR OR DPR METHODS.

BUT FUNDING HASN'T BEEN AVAILABLE AS YOU ALL KNOW, TO MOVE FORWARD ON ANY OF THIS.

A LOWER COST WAY TO REMOVE AND DESTROY CECS IN WASTEWATER IS TO USE A COMBINATION OF ADVANCED OXIDATION METHODS, OZONE, ELECTROCHEMICAL, UV PLUS GRANULAR ACTIVATED CHARCOAL, DEPENDING ON THE COMPOSITION OF THE CECS PRESENT.

NO ONE TREATMENT TRAIN IS ADEQUATE FOR TREATING ALL WASTEWATER.

PILOTS MUST BE PERFORMED WITH DIFFERENT TREATMENT TECHNOLOGIES.

FIRST, TO DETERMINE WHICH WILL PROVIDE THE BEST OVERALL COST-EFFECTIVE PERFORMANCE.

THIS IS WHY THE FLAGSTAFF WATER GROUP IS ADVOCATING A PILOT OR PILOTS WITH THE NEWEST ADVANCED TREATMENT TECHNOLOGY BE PERFORMED BEFORE THE CITY SELECTS ANY ADVANCED TREATMENT METHOD FOR ALL RECLAIMED WATER BEFORE DISCHARGE FOR ANY USE, IRRIGATION, SNOW MAKING, AQUIFER RECHARGE TO PREVENT THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND HUMAN HEALTH RISKS THEY PRESENT.

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EIGHTY PERCENT OF ALL OUR WATER NOW COMES FROM THE AQUIFER, VERY LITTLE FROM LAKE MARY, AND THIS COULD GET LESS DEPENDING ON THE CLIMATE SITUATIONS.

>> GEORGE, SIR WHAT WERE YOU SAYING?

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION?

>> YOU MAY.

>> WE WOULD LIKE REQUEST TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A FORMAL PROPOSAL TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT THESE ADVANCED TREATMENT TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE'VE RESEARCHED, ALL THE BENEFITS AND THE COSTS INVOLVED, A COPY OF THE PILOT PROGRAM IS BEING GIVEN TO WATER SERVICES NEXT WEEK WITH ALL THE TECHNICAL DETAILS AND COSTS THAT WE'VE DETERMINED.

BUT WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS AND WHAT'S INVOLVED.

THIS CAN'T BE DONE IN THREE MINUTES, OBVIOUSLY.

WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR BACK IF THIS IS POSSIBLE AT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.

>> THANK YOU, GEORGE. I'M VERY INTERESTED ABOUT THE ADVANCED TREATMENT TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

I WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. JOHN NORMAN?

>> I'M SPEAKING AS A MEMBER OF THE FLAG WATER GROUP IN AN INDIVIDUAL IN THIS.

THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

I SUPPORT EVERYTHING MY COLLEAGUES IN THE WATER GROUP HAVE COMMUNICATED TO YOU ALREADY.

BUT I THINK YOUR GRANT PROPOSAL IS GREAT MERIT, AARON.

AQUIFER RECHARGE IS A CRITICAL TOOL IN OUR WATER TOOLKIT TO MAINTAIN AN ADEQUATE WATER SUPPLY FOR THE CITY.

BUT THE ISSUES WITH CHEMICAL CONTAMINATION ARE CRITICAL.

IN MY 30 YEARS MANAGING THE INSTRUCTIONAL LAB PROGRAM FOR THE NTU CHEMISTRY DEPARTMENT, I HAD TO CONSTANTLY ASSESS RISK, AND MODIFY EXPERIMENTS, DROP CHEMICALS, AND OVER THE YEARS, CHEMICALS I THOUGHT WERE SAFE CHANGED, AND I HAD TO MODIFY EXPERIMENTS TO STOP USING THEM.

CHEMICAL KNOWLEDGE ABOUT TOXICITY IS ALWAYS CHANGING AND USUALLY ON THE SIDE OF MORE RISK THAT WE BECOME AWARE OF.

WHAT WE KNOW NOW IS NOT ANYTHING, BUT WE MAY KNOW IN THE FUTURE.

THE PROCESS OF REGULATION IS ABOUT 20, 30, 40 YEARS BEHIND RIGHT NOW.

THOUGH WE ARE MEETING FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATIONS, THE CITY IS TOTALLY LAWFUL IN EVERYTHING THEY ARE DOING.

UNFORTUNATELY, OUR FEDERAL AND STATE GUIDELINES ARE LAGGING FAR BEHIND.

THAT'S WHY DOING ADVANCED TREATMENT ON RECLAIMED WATER IS CRITICAL AND IT CAN BE STAGED.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO IMPLEMENT TREAT ALL THE WATER, YOU CAN TREAT PART OF IT THAT YOU WANTED TO DO AQUIFER RECHARGE WITH, AND THEN STAGE IT UP TO TREAT MORE AND MORE DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH WE CAN AFFORD TO DO.

I WOULD REALLY ASK YOU TO CONSIDER ADVANCED TREATMENT OF THE RECLAIMED WATER FOR CERTAIN USES, ESPECIALLY AQUIFER RECHARGE.

TO QUOTE BRAD HILL, WE KNOW RECHARGE WORKS BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE PASSIVELY FROM A REAL PLANT IN WILDCAT.

WE KNOW IT'S GETTING DOWN THERE BECAUSE WE CAN DETECT VERY LOW LEVELS OF TRACE CONTAMINANTS IN THE AQUIFER RIGHT NOW BELOW THE CITY WELLS.

JUST BE AWARE, IT'S A LONG-TERM PROBLEM, SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE CAN ADDRESS IN THE RATE STUDY ALSO.

KEEP THIS ON YOUR RADAR, IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT.

DPR MAY BE MORE IMPORTANT IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING WITH CLIMATE CHANGE AND OUR WATER RESOURCES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, JOHN. NOW TAKE THE ONLINE PARTICIPANTS.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I HAVE MICHELLE JAMES.

MICHELLE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MICHELLE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF.

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>> HELLO.

>> WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

>> WONDERFUL, I GOT UNMUTED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MICHELLE.

>> MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS MICHELLE JAMES, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FRIENDS OF FLAGSTAFF FUTURE.

FQ WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS SOME CONCERNS RELATED TO THIS GRANT PROPOSAL.

THIS IS GOING TO BE SOME REPEAT OF WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD, BUT I'M GOING TO READ WHAT I'VE WRITTEN HERE.

IN 2020 AND 2021, THE CITY CONVENED THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS COMMITTEE ON RECLAIMED WATER FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF SEEKING CITIZENS' RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE USE OF THE CITY'S RECLAIMED WATER.

THE STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE HAD A GOAL OF MAKING A "RECOMMENDATION ON THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE SUPPLY THAT INCLUDES ANY SUGGESTED UPDATES TO THE 2014 WATER POLICIES AND CITY CODE." THE COMMITTEE WAS CREATED BASED ON THE REQUEST BY COUNCIL TO DISCUSS RECLAIMED WATER OPTIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY.

THE STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE WAS COMPOSED OF 13 COMMUNITY MEMBERS, LED BY CITY STAFF AND FACILITATED BY BROWN AND CALDWELL.

THEY RANKED SEVEN CURRENT AND FUTURE SCENARIOS AS OUTLINED IN THE WATER SERVICE'S FIRST RECLAIMED WATER MASTER PLAN.

THE COMMITTEE'S AQUIFER RECHARGE RECOMMENDATION STRONGLY SUPPORTED ADVANCED TREATMENT OF A PLUS WATER PRIOR TO RELEASE.

THIS RECOMMENDATION WAS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE CONCERNS ABOUT HEALTH AND WATER ISSUES INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL PRESENCE IN RECLAIMED WATER OF CONTAMINANTS OF EMERGING CONCERN AND RUBBER CHEMICALS KNOWN AS PFAS.

HOW IS THE CITY TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE INPUT FROM THIS COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS COMMITTEE WHEN MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT AQUIFER RECHARGE OF RECLAIMED WATER? CONTAMINANTS ARE EMERGING CONCERN AND PFAS CHEMICALS HAVE BEEN FOUND ON OUR RECLAIMED WATER.

A REVIEW OF THE LITERATURE INDICATES THAT STANDARD TREATMENT OF RECLAIMED WATER DOES NOT REMOVE ALL THESE CONTAMINANTS AND CHEMICALS, AND THAT SMALL CONCENTRATION AT THE LEVEL OF PARTS PER TRILLION CAN BE HARMFUL AND IMPACT HUMAN HEALTH NEGATIVELY AS THEY BUILD UP IN THE BODY VIA DRINKING WATER AND OTHER EXPOSURE.

THE CONCERNS RAISED BY THE COMMITTEE ARE JUSTIFIABLE AND NEED TO BE ADDRESSED WHEN CONSIDERING ADDITIONAL AQUIFER RECHARGE EFFORTS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MICHELLE. I ASSUME THAT WAS THE ONE INDIVIDUAL WE HAD ONLINE.

>> WITH THAT, LET'S TURN IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS OF AARON AND OTHERS. COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE CITY MANAGER FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA.

I WILL SAY THAT WE'D HAD PREVIOUS CITY MANAGERS THAT MIGHT HAVE JUST LET THIS SLIP THROUGH.

BUT YOU WERE RESPONSIVE AND I APPRECIATE THAT ATTITUDE OF GETTING CONTROVERSIAL THINGS BEFORE COUNCIL.

OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN SOME NOTES.

I'M GOING TO READ FROM MY NOTES.

LIKE THE FRIENDS OF THE RIO AND LIKE THE AUDUBON SOCIETY, I'M A STRONG SUPPORTER OF GETTING WATER BACK INTO OUR STREAMS. WHILE WORKING ON MY MASTER'S DEGREE, I WORKED ON URBAN WASH CORRIDORS.

I'VE ALSO WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS AMERICAN RIVERS, SO I CARE ABOUT THESE ISSUES.

I'M A STRONG SUPPORTER OF RECHARGING OUR AQUIFERS.

HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, THERE ARE SOME SERIOUS IMPLICATIONS THAT GO BEYOND THE OBVIOUS.

AFTER REVIEWING THE WATER COMMISSION PRESENTATION AND THE MINUTES FROM THAT MEETING, I OFFER SOME COMMENTS.

FIRST OF ALL, AS A COUNCILMEMBER, ONE OF MY PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO ASSURE OUR FUTURE WATER SUPPLY.

THERE ARE TWO PARTS TO THAT RESPONSIBILITY, THE FIRST IS THE QUANTITY OF WATER THAT WE CAN DELIVER.

THE SECOND IS THE QUALITY OF THAT WATER.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSIBLE CONTAMINATION OF THE PART OF THE AQUIFER WHERE WE GET OUR DRINKING WATER.

I REALIZE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PUTTING RECLAIMED WATER INTO THE AQUIFER.

BUT I WILL NOTE THAT THIS PROPOSAL, WILL PUT THE LESS THAN PURE WATER IN A PART OF THE AQUIFER WHERE IT WILL BE MORE LIKELY END UP IN OUR DRINKING WATER VIA A RECOVERY WELL DOWNSTREAM OF THE RECHARGE POINT AT ST. CLAIR WASH.

I REALIZED THAT ARE RECLAIMED WATER IS RATED A-PLUS.

THIS MEANS THAT THE WATER HAS BEEN FILTERED, THE BIOLOGICAL AGENTS ARE NEUTRALIZED, AND THE NITROGEN HAS BEEN REMOVED.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE COMPOUNDS STILL IN THE WATER THAT POTENTIALLY COULD IMPACT THE ASSUMED PURITY.

THESE COMPOUNDS ARE CLASSIFIED AS CONTAMINANTS OF EMERGING CONCERN.

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EVEN IN MINUSCULE CONCENTRATIONS, THESE COMPOUNDS HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO CAUSE SIGNIFICANT REPRODUCTIVE PROBLEMS, AS SHOWN IN, FOR INSTANCE, THE WORK OF NICUS, DR. PROPER.

THESE CHEMICALS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN DIRECTLY ACTING CHEMICALS, THEY ACT LIKE CATALYSTS.

MOST CHEMICALS THAT ACT DIRECTLY CAN BE CONTROLLED IN PARTS PER MILLION OR PARTS PER BILLION.

CHEMICALS THAT ACT AS CATALYSTS MUST BE CONTROLLED MORE RIGOROUSLY IN PARTS PER TRILLION.

MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE STUDIED THIS ISSUE BELIEVE THAT OUR RECLAIMED WATER IS SAFE FOR IRRIGATION AND RELATED PURPOSES.

THAT SAID, WHEN IT COMES TO PRESERVING THE QUALITY OF OUR DRINKING WATER, I SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE A MORE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

THAT IS, WE SHOULD BE VERY PROACTIVE IN PROTECTING THE QUALITY OF OUR DRINKING WATER SUPPLY.

IN SUMMARY, WE SHOULD NOT RISK CONTAMINATION OF OUR DRINKING WATER SOURCE.

CONSIDERING RATIONAL PLANNING, WE ARE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

THIS PROJECT WOULD DEDICATE RECLAIMED WATER BEFORE WE COMPLETE THE RECLAIMED WATER MASTER PLAN, WHICH WE'LL STUDY HOW RECLAIMED WATER SHOULD BE UTILIZED IN THE CITY.

THE PROPOSAL IS ALSO INCONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE RECLAIMED WATER STAKEHOLDERS GROUP, WHICH WAS SPONSORED BY OUR WATER SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

SO IN SUMMARY, CONSIDERING THE SIGNIFICANT NEEDS AT OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT, THE CITY MATCHING FUNDS FOR THE GRANT SHOULD BE BETTER SPENT.

I ALSO QUESTIONED IF THE GRANT APPLICATION COULD BE DIRECTED TO A PROJECT THAT WE REALLY DO NEED.

CONSIDERING THE POTENTIAL RISKS TO THE QUALITY OF OUR DRINKING WATER SOURCE.

THE PROJECT SHOULD NOT BE DONE UNTIL OUR TREATMENT PROCESSES ADDRESS CONTAMINANTS OF EMERGING CONCERN, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY CITY STAFF IS MORE THAN TEN YEARS AWAY.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

>>THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY.

OTHERWISE WANTING TO CHAIRMAN OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS. VICE MAYOR.

>>I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU, AARON, FOR THE PRESENTATION AND WE'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE THE FLAGSTAFF WATER GROUP WITH US.

THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE THE FORMAL PROPOSAL AND LOOK AT THE ADVANCED TREATMENT TECHNOLOGIES.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP BUILDING OUR WATER PORTFOLIO, I GUESS IS THE WAY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT AND THIS IS A GRANT APPLICATION AND I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AND IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO GET THE GRANT.

IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO USE THE GRANT, BUT AT LEAST LET'S UTILIZE WHAT WE HAVE.

THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AROUND THIS AND I'M NOT SAYING THERE ISN'T, BUT THIS IS JUST A STEP AND MAYBE IT'S JUST A STEP TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT LET'S AT LEAST APPLY FOR THE GRANT. THANK YOU.

>>THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

>>COUNCIL MORSELS. COUNCIL MORSELS IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN. GO FIRST.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALL THAT.

ALL THOSE WHO HAVE ENGAGED AND COMMENTED TONIGHT.

AARON, I'M JUST WONDERING, I'M SURE YOU SAW THE EMAIL WE RECEIVED FROM ROBERT BAIN AND COMPANY WITH THE FIVE POINTS ILLUSTRATED.

DO YOU WANT TO QUICKLY OR ARE YOU ABLE TO QUICKLY JUST HIT YOUR THOUGHTS ON EACH TO THOSE POINTS?

>> COUNCILMEMBER [INAUDIBLE] I DID LOOK OVER THE POINTS SENT.

I DON'T HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF ME TO GO ONE BY ONE.

SHOULD I BRING UP THE EMAIL?

>>I CAN SPEAK TO IT.

>>I ACTUALLY HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME TOO, IF YOU WANT ME JUST TO GIVE YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM EACH POINT. WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL?

>>LET'S HAVE CITY MANAGER SPEAK TO IT REAL QUICK AND THEN SUMMARIZING THEM ALL, BOUNCE OFF OF THAT.

>>THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE NOTES IN FRONT OF ME,

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THE ESSENCE OF IT FROM THE WATER GROUP IS IN OPPOSITION TO THE GRANT APPLICATION SUBMITTAL BUT SHOULD IT BE SUBMITTED.

THE REQUEST BY THE WATER GROUP IS TO SEE THE MONEY I BELIEVE THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE ALLOCATED TOWARD A RECOVERY SPENT TOWARD THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR PILOT PROJECT, AS HAS BEEN DESCRIBED TO YOU IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS OF A WHILE AGO, IN THE AREA OF $1.5 MILLION I BELIEVE.

THE REQUEST WAS FOR A COMMITMENT TO THAT EFFECT.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND COMMENT ON THAT, I BELIEVE TONIGHT'S COUNCIL WILL BE PUT IN THE FINAL WRAPS ON OUR BUDGET, SO WE ARE COMMITTED FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR BUT NOT SHORT OF AMENDMENTS TO THE BUDGET, BE ABLE TO SIMPLY DO THAT THIS EVENING AND MORE THOUGHTS AND DISCUSSION NEEDS TO OCCUR.

WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE WEEDS ON THE PROPOSAL, THE ASK IS TO GO FORWARD ON A PILOT PROJECT WITH TECHNOLOGIES THAT AS MENTIONED, HAVE NOT YET BEEN ADOPTED IN THE US AND WE DO NOT TAKE ISSUE WITH THE UNDERLYING INTENTIONS BUT I THINK WE ALL NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF WHATEVER RISKS MAY BE INCURRED BY IMPLEMENTING A TECHNOLOGY THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN PUT INTO PLACE, AT LEAST SANCTIONED BY STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AS HAS BEEN NOTED, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS IN SOME EUROPEAN COUNTRIES.

SO THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF IT IS, IF WE WERE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS TO HAVE THAT AS A REQUIREMENT.

I MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET, THAT I BELIEVE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS HERE.

ONE IS TO GO FORWARD AND THE OTHER IS TO NOT BUT TO QUALIFY GOING FORWARD IN SOME WAY IS PROBABLY NOT PRAGMATIC FORESTS, ESPECIALLY WITH TIMELINES AND SO FORTH.

I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE HAS BEEN CONSIDERABLE EFFORT INTO THIS AT THE STAFF LEVEL, AND I WANT TO THANK AARON AND HER TEAM FOR THAT, WE'RE OKAY WITH COUNCIL DIRECTION IN EITHER WAY.

WE'RE JUST OKAY WITH IT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE SLEEP ON THIS THING IF THE DIRECTION IS TO NOT GO FORWARD.

WE THINK IT'S JUSTIFIABLY IN FRONT OF YOU FOR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT IS GRANT MONEY AND WE'D LIKE TO PURSUE GRANT MONEY BUT I WANT COUNSEL TO KNOW THAT WE'RE AT YOUR PLEASURE ON THIS WHEREVER YOU WANT US TO DO, THANK YOU.

>> JUST WRAP UP MY COMMENTS IT THAT'S OKAY MAYOR AND JUST STATE THAT.

I LIKE COUNSELOR MCCARTHY DO STRUGGLE WITH THIS, I'D LIKE TO SEE US FURTHER INVEST IN THIS PILOT EFFORT TO REMOVE THE ADDITIONAL CCS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY BEFORE WE DO THAT DIRECT INSERT BACK IN AQUIFER TREATMENT INTO OUR RC AQUIFER.

I GUESS I DON'T FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH US MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS GIVEN THE LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WITHOUT HAVING FIRST DOING FURTHER EFFORTS IN REGARDS TO TREATMENT SO THAT'S WHERE I'M UP, I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR WHETHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT AS WELL. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI. COUNCILMEMBER AUSTIN,

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS CONVERSATION.

I'M REALLY GLAD THIS HAS COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR AN UP OR DOWN VOTE FROM THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL.

I HAVE ALREADY LENT MY SUPPORT TO THIS EFFORT THROUGH MY ROLE AS THE CHAIR OF THE COCONINO PLATEAU WATER ADVISORY COUNCIL.

THAT AGENCY ORGANIZATION IS ONE OF THE AGENCIES THAT HAS SIGNED ONTO THIS, I BELIEVE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TENSION THAT THE FLAGSTAFF WATER GROUP IS BRINGING TO THIS.

I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS THAT ARE BEING LIFTED UP BY FRIENDS OF FLAGSTAF'S FUTURE.

I THINK WE SHOULD BE FIRING ON ALL CYLINDERS WITH THIS.

I SEE BOTH HAND HERE.

I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS GRANT APPLICATION AS IS, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE TIMELINE ON THIS.

BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD IGNORE THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BEING PRESENTED WITH.

THEY ARE LEGITIMATE AND THEY ARE COMING FROM A PLACE OF REALLY GOOD FAITH AND I WOULD BE PROUD TO BE A PART OF A FLAGSTAFF TEAM THAT ACKNOWLEDGES CHEMICALS AS AN EMERGING CONCERN AND IS DOING ALL WE CAN TO PREPARE FOR THEM THE BETTER TREAT AGAINST THEM, AND TO BE PLACING OURSELVES IN A GREAT POSITION FOR DIRECT POTABLE REUSE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

I DO NOT THINK THAT THESE TWO THINGS NEED TO BE WORKING AGAINST EACH OTHER,

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BUT AGAIN, I CAN'T STATE IT ENOUGH, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE POINTS OF VIEW THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD OUT OF GREAT CONCERN FOR THE QUALITY AND CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY'S WATER AND THESE ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS AND WE SHOULD BE WORKING FORWARD ON ALL CYLINDERS TO DO THAT.

I'M VERY MUCH ON THE RECORD OVER MY FIRST TERM HERE ON THE COUNCIL IN SUPPORTING USING WATER RECHARGE TO GET THIS SINCLAIR WASH UP AND RUNNING AGAIN.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN INCREDIBLE AMENITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT COULD BECOME A REALLY NICE RIPARIAN CORRIDOR, WONDERFUL SPOT FOR BIRDING, WHICH IS NOT AN AMENITY THAT ANYONE SHOULD SHAKE A STICK AT.

IT'S A VERY, VERY, VERY POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR US.

HAVING A BURNING TRAIL THERE.

THERE'S JUST SO MANY OTHER INCIDENTALS THAT GO INTO THIS THAT ARE REALLY POSITIVE AND IN THE AGGREGATE, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD MAKE THE PERFECT FOR THE POTENTIAL FOR EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES TO GET IN THE WAY OF WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY CAPABLE OF DOING.

EVEN THOUGH AT THE SAME TIME WE CAN BE LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE AND ASPIRATIONALLY TRYING TO MEET THESE OBJECTIVES OF CONCERN AS WELL.

I'LL LEAVE IT THERE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER AUSTIN COUNCIL SALAS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I DULY NOTE THE OPPOSITION AND CONCERNS OF THE WATER GROUP AND THE FRIENDS OF FLAGSTAFF'S FUTURE.

LOOKING AHEAD, I WANT TO GET MORE INFORMATION OF THE PILOT PROJECT THAT THE WATER GROUP HAS ALLUDED TO, AND PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE A FUTURE DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL, SEE IF THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FUND IN TERMS OF BUDGETARY ALLOCATIONS IN THE FUTURE.

THE QUESTION AT HAND TODAY IS, ARE WE IN SUPPORT OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS GRANT APPLICATION? GIVEN THE RESOUNDING SUPPORT FROM THE WATER COMMISSION AND THE MANY COMMUNITY PARTNERS, INCLUDING THE SOUTHSIDE COMMUNITY ACTIONS, FRIENDS ARE FREE OF THE FLAG, THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES, THE COCONINO PLATEAU WATERSHED PARTNERSHIP, DR. WHITMAN FROM NEU AND NATIONAL AUDUBON SOCIETY, AND OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION.

I WOULD UPHOLD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PURSUE THE GRANT APPLICATION AND CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS AROUND WATER QUALITY STANDARDS BEYOND A PLUS SEPARATELY FROM SOUND WATER MANAGEMENT DECISIONS INCLUDED IN THE COUNCIL-ADOPTED 2014 WATER POLICIES.

I WOULD REITERATE THAT I WOULD SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS GRANT APPLICATION, AND I VALUE EVERYONE'S INPUT ON THIS MATTER. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SALAS.

>> I DID HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

IF ELLEN, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUMP BACK ON.

[NOISE] THIS WATER SMART GRANT WAS THIS A YEARLY GRANT OR IS THIS KIND OF A ONE-TIME DEAL RIGHT NOW?

>> THEY'RE FAIRLY FREQUENT.

>> THEY'RE FAIRLY FREQUENT?

>> THE MARCH MIGHT CHANGE, SOME OF THE CRITERIA MIGHT CHANGE, BUT YEAH, THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER ONE, I THINK IN SIX MONTHS OR SOMETHING.

>> OKAY, SO EVEN IF, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DECIDED NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE GET MORE DISCUSSIONS.

THE WORK DONE FOR GRANT APPLICATIONS ISN'T NECESSARILY ALL FOR NOT IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS A ONE-TIME THING THAT WE NEED TO SUBMIT BY TOMORROW.

>> CORRECT. I THINK THE 50 PERCENT MATCH MIGHT BE UNIQUE, THAT THEY'RE PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO IT RIGHT NOW.

BUT YEAH, THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

THE OTHER QUESTION I GUESS IS AGAIN, IF FOR EXAMPLE, WE APPLY, WE GET THE GRANT.

WHEN IS THIS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE STARTING IMPLEMENTATION WHERE WE HAVE TO SIGN THE IGAS AND SO FORTH?

>> THE UNIQUE PART OF BUREAU FUNDED GRANT IS IT DOES REQUIRE

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WE WANT TO KNOW UPFRONT IF WE CAN'T DELAY THAT WATER WELL PROJECT.

THAT IS A CRITICAL PROJECT FOR AVOIDING OUR WATER SHORTAGE AND WATER EMERGENCY.

THE TIMING IS PERFECT TO ALLOW NEPA THAT TIME STILL GET THE WELL DRILLED WITHIN THE TIMING WE NEED AND SEE THESE OUTFALLS CONSTRUCTED.

IT'S A THREE-YEAR GRANT THAT STARTS A YEAR FROM NOW.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> YEAH.

>> WELL, THE INFORMATION PROVIDED I DO HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH MOVING FORWARD THIS WITHOUT DOING ADVANCED TREATMENT OF THAT WATER BEFORE IT GOES INTO OUR AQUIFER.

BUT I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SOME TIME TO GET THROUGH DISCUSSIONS.

THIS IS JUST A GRANT PROPOSAL TODAY, AN APPLICATION THAT'S SOMETHING WE MAY NOT EVEN GET.

I THINK WE HAVE TIME TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, SEE WHAT'S PLAUSIBLE.

GET A WALL HERE TO SEE WHAT'S THE ADVANCED TREATMENTS THAT ARE BEING DONE IN EUROPE.

BECAUSE I'M VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT THIS PILOT PROJECT WHICH I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY A TIME OR TWO.

I'M VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND MAYBE THIS COULD EVEN BE INCORPORATED INTO A PILOT WITH THIS CURRENT PROJECT POTENTIALLY.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO HOLD US UP IN MOVING ALONG WITH IT, AND LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

I DO BELIEVE THAT GIVES US FOUR 1, 2, 3 [OVERLAPPING].

>> I APOLOGIZE, MAYOR, I THINK COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.

HAVE WE HEARD FROM YOU ON THIS TOPIC?

>> YOU HAVE NOT. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER, AND REALLY I DID NOT RAISE MY HAND, SO YOU DIDN'T MISS ME.

[LAUGHTER] HE HAS BEEN PUZZLING OVER THIS AND THINKING ABOUT IT.

I HAVE CONCERNS AS WELL, AND ESPECIALLY HEARING SOME OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD TONIGHT AND SOME OF THE POTENTIAL ISSUES.

THOSE CONCERNS ARE NOT NECESSARILY ABSOLVED IN THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD TONIGHT.

HOWEVER, I BELIEVE WITH THE RESEARCH THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS AND THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS SIMPLY AN APPLICATION AT THIS POINT, IT DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE THE GRANT AND IT DOES NOT, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, PRECLUDE SOME OF THE FURTHER EXAMINATIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED TONIGHT, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF MOVING THE APPLICATION FORWARD WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED THIS EVENING, SO THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE CITY MANAGER.

>> MR. MAYOR, I APOLOGIZE FOR SPEAKING OUT OF TURN JUST TO [OVERLAPPING].

>> NO PROBLEM.

>> I WAS JUST TALLYING MY INPUT AND I THOUGHT WE WERE ONE SHORT.

>> I THINK WE HAVE A SLANT VICE MAYOR MYSELF.

>> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR A THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION AND REST ASSURED THE DIALOGUE WILL CONTINUE.

I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR STAFF IN SAYING THAT WATER QUALITY IS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US.

THE PROCESS AND THE TIMING GETS A LITTLE CLUNKY AT TIMES, BUT THE UNDERLYING OBJECTIVE IS NOT TO BE DISPUTED.

WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MONTHLY REPORTS APPENDED TO THE MANAGER'S REPORT, IF I CAN ASK FOR YOUR AUDIENCE FOR JUST A FEW MORE MINUTES, WE HAVE OUR SUSTAINABILITY REPORT.

I BELIEVE NIKOLA AND TONOPOLIS IS GOING TO WALK US THROUGH THAT IN RAPID SUCCESSION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A CAPITAL PROJECTS UPDATE AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE MANAGER'S REPORT. THANK YOU.

>> THINK SO. THANK YOU.

IS NICOLE ON, THERE WE GO.

>> YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS, SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR.

THANK YOU. I WASN'T SURE IF YOU WERE READY FOR ME JUST YET.

I PROMISE TO BE VERY SUCCINCT.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S A HEFTY AGENDA.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME REALLY EXCITING WORK TO HIGHLIGHT FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY SECTION FROM THE MONTH OF MAY.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, SUSTAINABILITY HAS BEEN COLLABORATING WITH BOULDER COUNTY, COLORADO TO CREATE THE FOUR CORNERS CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL COALITION.

THE COUNCIL MAY RECALL THAT CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL IS A KEY STRATEGY IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

IN FACT, IT MAKES UP MORE THAN 50 PERCENT OF OUR STRATEGIES TO ACHIEVE CARBON NEUTRALITY.

WE HAVE RECEIVED UNSOLICITED MEDIA ATTENTION IN THE MONTH OF MAY.

THE COALITION IS WORKING TO POOL PRIVATE AND PUBLIC RESOURCES TO ACCELERATE CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL.

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JUST REALLY ANNOUNCING OUR EFFORT TO REALLY TRY TO, AS I MENTIONED, POOL PRIVATE AND PUBLIC RESOURCES AND ACTUALLY CREATE BUSINESS INTEREST IN THIS SECTOR.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THE NORTHERN ARIZONA SOLAR CO-OP OR SECOND ROUND, AND I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE 140 INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP FOR ENROLLMENT IN THE RESIDENTIAL SOLAR CO-OP.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS BY THE END OF JULY, WHICH IS WHEN ENROLLMENT CLOSES.

WITH THAT SAID, THE COUNCIL DID HERE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION FROM US DURING THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN QUARTERLY UPDATE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT AGAIN TO THE STAFF FROM THE CITY, THE COUNTY METRO PLAN, NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY, MOUNT LION, AND EVEN ADOT THAT ATTENDED OUR TRANSFORMING TRANSPORTATION WORKSHOP THAT WE HELD IN EARLY MAY.

THIS WAS A HEAVY LIFT FOR SUSTAINABILITY, SPECIFICALLY JENNY NEIMAN AND DAVID WESSEL FROM METRO PLAN TO GET THIS WORKSHOP PUT TOGETHER.

IT'S THE FIRST STEP IN MANY STEPS TO COME.

BUT AS COUNCIL HAS HEARD A LOT FROM STAFF, THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THE BIG SHIFT THAT WE DISCUSSED A LOT IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND REALLY FOCUSING ON THAT TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP THE COUNCIL UPDATED AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SAY COUNCIL HAS HEARD THAT WE HAD A BUNCH OF THIS STUFF POSITIONS APPROVED BY THE CIVIC LEARNING CENTER AND AT ANY NAU, AND WE HAVE HIRED OUR THIRD OF FIVE POSITIONS AND OUR YOUTH CLIMATE, LEADERSHIP VISTA HAS BEEN HIRED.

THEY WILL BE MOVING TWO FLAGSTAFF IN EARLY JULY.

WE WILL DEFINITELY TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE GRACY, TO THE COUNCIL AND TEAM.

BUT THIS POSITION, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE OUR CLOSE PARTNERS AT FLAGSTAFF UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT WHO ARE DRAFTING THEIR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

THIS POSITION WILL BE WORKING SPECIFICALLY WITH FUSD TO HELP THEM SUPPORT CLIMATE ACTION.

SPEAKING OF OUR VISITORS, WE WELCOME SONOMA BOYNTON AS OUR NEW STREAM STEWARD COORDINATOR, AMERICORPS MEMBER, AND THIS IS A SHARED POSITION BETWEEN SUSTAINABILITY AND FRIENDS OF THE RIO.

SOME OF YOU HAVE MET SONOMA AT THE VOLUNTEER EVENTS.

SHE'S BEEN INTEGRAL IN HELPING CITY STAFF GET THESE VOLUNTEER EVENTS COORDINATED FOR THE POST FIRE FLOOD AREA.

SHE'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR COORDINATING AND HELPING TO CREATE THE STREAM STEWARDS PROGRAM.

WE WILL TALK WITH THE COUNCIL A LOT MORE ABOUT THAT AS IT'S BUILDING.

BUT THE STREAM STEWARDS IS A PROGRAM VERY SIMILAR TO COMMUNITY STEWARDS, WHERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN VOLUNTEER TO HELP IMPROVE THE INTEGRITY OF STREAMS IN THE FLEX STUFF AREA.

OUR LITTLE CLEANUPS ARE STILL GROWING STRONG IN TERMS OF A NUMBER OF CLEAN-UPS AND VOLUNTEERS.

IN THE MONTH OF MAY, WE HAD 121 VOLUNTEERS WHO VOLUNTEERED OVER 265 HOURS OF THEIR TIME COLLECTING ON 68 BAGS OF TRASH AND 20 BAGS OF RECYCLING.

OBVIOUSLY, THE WINDS WHICH ARE PROJECTED TO CONTINUE TO STAY VERY AGGRESSIVE AS CLIMATE CHANGE CONTINUES TO HAPPEN.

WIND IS OBVIOUSLY CONTRIBUTING SIGNIFICANTLY TO LITTER IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE ARE WORKING ON A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES TO HELP MITIGATE, IN ADDITION TO VOLUNTEER CLEANUPS, BUT TO HELP MITIGATE AND TRY TO GET ON THE FRONT END OF PREVENTING LITTER THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

OUR FOOD SYSTEMS ARE FREE.

MONTHLY WORKSHOPS THAT ARE COMMUNITY GARDENS CONTINUE.

WE HAD HIGH ALTITUDE GARDENING, POLLINATORS, PEST AND PLANTS WERE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY FOR FREE IN MAY.

WE HOPE TO HAVE SOME EXCITING NEWS FOR THE COUNCIL NEXT MONTH IN OUR FOOD SYSTEMS AREA.

THEN I'M JUST GOING TO WRAP UP WITH OUR MAY DROP-OFF DAY EVENT BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO NOT HAVE TO DRIVE OUT TO THE LANDFILLS HAZARDOUS PRODUCTS CENTER, WHICH IS A FANTASTIC RESOURCE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

BUT WE'VE HEARD MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS THAT PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE TO INTENTIONALLY MAKE A TRIP OUT TO THE LANDFILL.

WE STARTED IN RESPONSE TO THAT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO DOING MINIMAL DROP-OFF EVENTS WITHIN TOWN AND THIS EVENT BROUGHT IN

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HUGE THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS AT SOLID WASTE, SPECIFICALLY THE TEAM AT THE HAZARDOUS PRODUCTS CENTER FOR JOINING US, AND OF COURSE, THE DEA, THE DRUG ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND A NUMBER OF WASTE AND PAPER DISTRIBUTION COMPANIES THAT HELPED US WITH THE EVENT.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, NICOLE ON THE SUSTAINABILITY TEAM.

ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? I DON'T SEE ANY.

WE ARE GOOD TO PROCEED.

>> THANK YOU, NICOLE, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT NICE PRESENTATION.

WRAPPING IT UP TODAY, WE HAVE CAPITAL PROJECTS UPDATES. HI, TREVOR.

>> YOUR HONOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL GOOD AFTERNOON.

TREVOR HENRY, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ENGINEER.

FIRST I JUST WANTED TO SAY AS WELL AS WHAT GREG HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, CITY MANAGER CLIFTON HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, RICK BARRETT RETIRED AND THIS WAS HIS LAST REPORT AND I'M HONORED TO PROVIDE THIS UPDATE FOR YOU AND I KNOW HE'S WATCHING, SO THANK YOU RICK.

HE SAID HE WOULD BE WATCHING ALL OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS GOING FORWARD.

[LAUGHTER] I KNOW HE'S DOING THAT.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE PILOT PROJECT WHICH IS THE SEPARATED BIKE LANES, SO STAFF WILL BE COMING TO YOU LATER TONIGHT TO PRESENT TRAFFIC DATA INPUT FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS, AS WELL AS THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSIONS THAT THEY'VE ATTENDED SO STAY TUNED.

YOU'LL HEAR A GREAT UPDATE ON THAT PROJECT.

WE HAVE THE SPRUCE WASH CEDAR TO TORTHA.

THE PROJECT TEAM CONTINUES TO WORK ON CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS RELATED TO THE CONCRETE BOX CULVERT.

AT THE END OF MAY, THEY BEGAN PLACING THE CONCRETE AND THEY HOPE TO FINISH THAT THROUGH THE REST OF THIS WEEK.

AS WE HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THERE IS SOME SHORTAGES WITH CEMENT SO CONCRETE AVAILABILITY COULD BE LIMITED, BUT THE TEAM IS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO ENSURE THAT THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED BEFORE THE MONSOONS.

BEULAH UNIVERSITY REALIGNMENT, SO THE PROJECT TEAM CONTINUES TO WORK ON THE DESIGN AND WE ARE NOW BEGINNING TO ENGAGE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK SO THAT THEY CAN BEGIN TO REVIEW THE DESIGN.

THE INTENT THERE IS TO GET TO A CONSTRUCTION READY PLAN SET BY THE END OF JULY.

ALL OF THAT IS IN PROCESS TO COME BEFORE YOU AT THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR WHERE THE GMP FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN IN SPRING OF 2023.

ALL OF THAT IS HAPPENING, TALKING DISCUSSIONS, COORDINATIONS HAPPENING IN THE MONTH OF MAY.

WE HAVE THE ROAD REPAIR STREETS SAFETY PROJECTS.

THERE'S TWO OF THEM, ACTUALLY THEY'RE THE LAST TWO OF THIS PROGRAM.

IT IS IN THE COCONINO ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS THE CHERRY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CANYON TERRACE, WHICH IS JUST OFF OF SCHWEITZER CANYON NEAR TURQUOISE.

THE WORK IN COCONINO ESTATES IS PHASE 1 AND 2.

THOSE PROJECTS ARE WRAPPING UP.

WE'RE HOPING TO BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR AND SO THAT IS ALL ROADWAY WORK, EDGE IMPROVEMENTS, NEW UTILITY LINES, SEWER, AND WATER.

THAT'S GOING IN. IN CHERRY HILL AGAIN, SAME SCOPE, SAME ELEMENTS OF WORK THAT WILL BE PROVIDED THERE THAT IS ACTUALLY COMPLETED FOR UTILITIES AND ROADWAY AND THEY DID CONDUCT A FINAL WALK-THROUGH ON JUNE 6TH AND NOW THEY'LL JUST BEGIN TO WRAP UP THE CLOSE-OUT OF THE PROJECT.

THE WORK ON CANYON TERRACE IS COMPLETE AS OF MAY 31ST AND THAT NEXT STEP FOR THEM IS JUST FINAL CLOSE-OUT.

DOWNTOWN MILES SO THIS PROJECT IS A CONGLOMERATION OF FIVE PROJECTS WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, POSSIBLY SIX DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANT TO BREAK THIS UP.

BUT IN A REQUEST FOR STATEMENTS OF QUALIFICATIONS WAS RELEASED FOR THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT AS WELL AS MITIGATION MEASURES RELATED TO BNSF, SO THAT'S OUT THERE.

IT WAS RECEIVED BACK AND NOW THE STAFF IS REVIEWING AND EVALUATING.

STAFF MET WITH BNSF AND AMTRAK TO GO OVER THEIR RAIL IMPROVEMENTS ADJACENT TO THE PLATFORM WHICH IS THERE NEAR THE VISITOR CENTER.

THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION GOING ON THERE CURRENTLY.

STAFF ALSO COORDINATED THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION FOR THEIR FUNDING CONTRIBUTION OF $490,000.

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RIO DE FLAG PROJECTS, SO THIS PROJECT CONTINUES TO PROGRESS WITH COORDINATION AND DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE CITY, THE ARMY CORPS, AND BNSF.

THEY ARE STAKEHOLDERS.

THIS PROJECT, WE MEET WEEKLY, IF NOT DAILY, TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT COMPONENTS, DIFFERENT MEASURES OF HOW THIS PROJECT WILL MOVE FORWARD.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE OVERALL SCHEDULE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ACQUISITIONS.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS PROJECT WILL CROSS AND BE ADJACENT TO THE RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSION GOING ON WITH THIS PROJECT.

AGAIN, IT'S DAILY THAT WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS.

THE OWN TREE OVERPASS PROJECT.

THE STAFF MET WITH BNSF AND THEY TALKED ABOUT THE 30 PERCENT RAIL RELOCATION DESIGN SO THAT'S ONGOING.

THAT WAS ABOUT THE FIRST PART OF MAY THAT THAT HAPPENED.

THE TEAM PRESENTED TO THE CITIES COMMISSION ON INCLUSION AND ADAPTIVE LIVING.

POSITIVE FEEDBACK RECEIVED SO WE'RE JUST PROGRESSING TO GET THE OUTREACH AND TO MEET WITH COMMISSIONS AND WHOEVER WE CAN TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT.

ON MAY 24TH, THE TEAM WAS BEFORE YOU TO PRESENT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY AND THEN ALSO THE ELDON ROAD LOOP CONCEPT.

THAT PROJECT DID RECEIVE SOME FEEDBACK AND THE TEAM IS CONTINUING TO WORK TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION AND JUST BEGIN THE NATURE OF THAT DESIGN.

EAST ROUTE 66 IN EL PASO WATERLINE PROJECT.

THIS IS A WATER SERVICES PROJECT RELATED TO AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN AND FOR THE MONTH OF MAY, THE CONTRACTOR PLACED 2,500 LINEAR FEET OF 12 INCH WATERLINE.

THAT'S JUST A LITTLE OVER 100 FEET A DAY IN THIS AREA SO THAT'S GREAT PROGRESS BEING MADE THERE.

RIGHT NOW THEY'RE GOING TO WORK ON THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS ROADWAY BASE AND PAVEMENT FOR EL PASO ROAD.

THE PROJECT TEAM EXPECTS THIS TO BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF JUNE.

LIBRARY ENTRANCE, WE DID ISSUE A SOLICITATION FOR INVITATIONS FOR BIDS AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE.

WE'RE HOPING TO RECEIVE THAT NEXT WEEK, CLOSE THAT PROCESS, AND THEN BE BEFORE YOU ON JULY 5TH BEFORE YOUR COUNCIL BREAK TO RECOMMEND AN AWARD OF THIS PROJECT AND THEN BEGIN WORKING TOWARDS COMPLETION BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.

LOCKHART 4TH ROUNDABOUT.

ON MAY 31ST, WE WERE BEFORE YOU WITH THE DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS, INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECT ITSELF.

WE DID GO OVER Z CROSSINGS.

WE DID TALK ABOUT RAPID FLASHING BEACONS.

ALL OF THAT IS MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR DESIGN CONSULTANT WHO HAS MANAGED BY ADA.

BUT WE DO TALK WITH THEM BECAUSE WE ARE PART OF THE PROJECT TEAM.

WE ARE PLANNING, GEARING UP, TALKING ABOUT A PUBLIC MEETING THAT WILL OCCUR AT THE LIBRARY THERE AT CCC OFF OF 4TH STREET AND LOCKHART.

WE DID PROMISE TO DO SOME MORE OUTREACH THERE AND SO WE'RE STARTING TO PLAN AND COORDINATE THAT PUBLIC MEETING.

BUTLER 4TH IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD.

WE DID ISSUE A REQUEST FOR STATEMENTS OF QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE DESIGN SERVICE, AND THAT WAS ISSUED ON MAY 20TH AND THAT WILL CLOSE ON JUNE 20TH AND THEN WE WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU AFTER YOUR SUMMER BREAK WITH A RECOMMENDED AWARD TO KEEP THAT PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.

ADA ROUTE 66 BRIDGE REPLACEMENT.

THAT'S THE PROJECT THAT'S OCCURRING OUTSIDE.

THE OVER EXCAVATION AND THE BACKFILL BENEATH THE NEW BRIDGE IS COMPLETE.

THAT WORK WILL SUPPORT THE FUTURE RIO DE FLAG PROJECT.

ONCE IT COMES, THERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO REMOVE THAT MATERIAL AND THEN PLACE THE BOX STRUCTURE UNDERNEATH.

RIGHT NOW THEY'RE REPLACING THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM AS WELL AS REPLACING THE TURF, THE GRASS THAT'S OUT THERE.

THAT'S IN PROGRESS.

ADA IS EXPECTING THAT TO BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF JUNE, AND LASTLY IS THE JOHN WESLEY POWELL PROJECT.

ON JUNE 28TH WE'LL BE BEFORE YOU TO PRESENT THE ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT.

AS YOU HAD REQUESTED ON THAT PARTICULAR NATURE OF CONCEPTS, IDEAS, AND ANY INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE THERE.

WE'RE ALSO BEGINNING TO SEND OUT INFORMATION RELATED TO THE ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT, TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

THEY'LL BEGIN TO SEE THAT INFORMATION GETTING OUT THERE.

WE DO HAVE A PROJECT WEBSITE FOR THE JWP PROJECT.

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IF YOU GO THERE, THERE BE INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN RECEIVE REGARDING ALIGNMENTS, OUTREACHES, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, AND OTHER ASPECTS RELATED TO OUTREACH IN GENERAL.

WITH THAT, I'LL COMPLETE THE UPDATE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? [NOISE]

>> THANK TREVOR. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN SHIMONI.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, TREVOR.

GOOD AFTERNOON TO OUR FORMER CITY ENGINEER, RICK BERRY WHO'S PROBABLY TUNING IN.

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, RICK AGAIN.

THANK YOU, TREVOR, FOR THE UPDATE. A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.

SO JUST GOING BACK TO THE BU-LOW FOR A SECOND.

SO DESIGN IS BASICALLY COMPLETE.

WE HAVEN'T FUNDED 7 MILLIONS, COUNCIL IS GIVING DIRECTION MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M GUESSING THAT THIS IS GOING TO COME IN ABOUT 7 MILLION OVER BUDGET.

TREVOR, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT WITHIN BUDGET, BUT REALISTICALLY SPEAKING, I THINK IT'S STILL COMING IN CLOSER TO 7 MILLION OVER.

WE KNOW THAT A PROTECTED FIVE LANE INTERSECTION COST ABOUT A MILLION AND THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD THE OTHER WEEK ABOUT LONE TREE WITH A FIVE LANE OPTION.

MY QUESTION, GIVEN THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING YOUR CORE VALUES AND BUYING A NEW ENGINEER.

TREVOR, HOW MUCH WILL IT COST FOR US TO DESIGN A PROTECTIVE INTERSECTION HERE AS A PLAN B? WOULD IT BE ABOUT $60,000 IN DESIGN WORK? DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO DO THAT? GIVE COUNCIL OPTIONS WHEN YOU COME BACK TO US WITH MORE OF THOSE EXACT NUMBERS ABOUT THE OVERAGE.

YOUR HONOR, COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI.

I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THE MOMENT.

I WISH WE WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL IS WE WERE GIVEN DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AS IS.

I GUESS THAT'S MAYBE ANOTHER DISCUSSION THAT WE WOULD COME BACK BEFORE YOU IF THAT'S CHANGED BUT, STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING IS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AS IS WHICH FEATURES AROUND ABOUT.

CORRECT, AND I HAD A GOOD TALK WITH OUR ATTORNEY STERLING ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY.

COUNCIL MAYOR, THAT'S CORRECT.

WE DO HAVE DIRECTION THAT WAS ALSO BEFORE WE FOUND OUT THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE $7, $9 MILLION OVER BUDGET, BASICALLY DOUBLING THE COST AND I THINK COUNCILMAN RICARD THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT ALTERNATIVE IS IN THE PAST OR THE DESIRE FOR EXPLORING ALTERNATIVES.

ONE, IT IS AN OVERAGE.

TREVOR, I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY DIRECTION IN REGARDS TO GIVEN THAT IT'S SO MUCH OVER BUDGET.

BUT I'M NOT TOO SURE CITY MANAGER, HOW WE GO ABOUT GETTING THAT COUNCIL DIRECTION THAT MAJORITY.

DO WE EMAIL YOU IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT OR HOW DO WE DO THIS? CITY ATTORNEY WANTS TO JUMP IN HERE, SO KICKER TAMPERS.

WITH RESPECT THE CONVERSATION THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS SHIMONI REFERENCED THE QUESTION WAS, IS THERE A MECHANISM FOR HAVING IT BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL BECAUSE IT CAME IN OVER BUDGET AND MY RESPONSE WAS, WHICH IS TO ALL OF YOU, UNLESS THE COUNCIL CHANGES DIRECTION ON ITS STAFF IS MOVING FORWARD? THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY. CITY MANAGER, AND THEN I MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE. GO AHEAD. SORRY. GO AHEAD.

I APOLOGIZE, COUNCILMEMBER.

I ALSO WANTED TO KNOW BECAUSE I THINK IT'S RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION, BUT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS TEAM IS WORKING ON HIS CCR TO SEND TO COUNSEL WITH DETAILED INFORMATION REGARDING THE BUDGET AND WHERE WE ARE ON THIS AND WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO END UP.

COUNCIL DID ASK FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AND THAT IS FORTHCOMING.

SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION.

COUNCILMEMBER, SHIMONI.

YOU'RE TOTALLY FINE. [OVERLAPPING]. MAYOR AND COUNCIL I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WILL BE INVERSE BY THE TIME WE MEET NEXT, AND THEN WE FIND OUT IT'S GOING TO COST 17 MILLION IN TOTAL.

BUT AT THAT POINT, IT'S STILL IF WE DID GO WITH A PROTECTIVE INTERSECTION OF PLAN B IS STILL MILLION VERSUS ANOTHER 13 MILLION.

BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO SAVE OUR MONEY BEFORE WE GET TOO INVESTED IN THIS.

BUT OUT OF RESPECT THAT WE DO HAVE COUNCIL DIRECTION AND I TOTALLY GET WHY OUR TEAM IS MOVING FORWARD.

JUST TO ME WHEN I SEE IT COMING ALMOST TWICE AS MUCH OR 1.5 I DO HAVE CONCERNS.

BUT I GUESS IF WE DON'T SPEAK UP AS A MAJORITY, IT'S JUST A MINORITY OPINION THAT I'M SHARING.

MOVING ON TO MY OTHER TOPIC.

TREVOR, IN CONCLUSION ON BEULAH, I LOVE FOR US TO EXPLORE A PROTECTED INTERSECTION SIGN.

THING IS REALLY TO GIVE US A PLAN B, $6,$7,$8 MILLION OVER BUDGET.

I THINK IT'S REALISTIC THAT WE HAVE A PLAN B IN OUR BACK POCKET.

IN REGARDS TO BUTLER WIDENING AND THIS IS THE LAST TOPIC I WANT TO HIT UPON REALLY QUICK.

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BROKEN RECORD, BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT OUR PRIORITIES AND I THINK COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO THE DESIGN OF THE ROUNDABOUTS AND WHAT NOT, JUST THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY WHAT ARE OUR CORE VALUES OF THIS PROJECT GOING INTO IT, RATHER THAN DOING IT RE-ACTIVELY LATER.

YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT, TREVOR? YOUR HONOR, COUNTY MEMBER SHIMONI, WHEN WE WERE BEFORE YOU AT THE END OF MARCH, WE DID CONVEY WHAT THE SCOPE OF THE BUTLER FORTH WIDENING PROJECT WOULD BE.

WE DID TALK ABOUT INTERSECTIONS AT FOURTH AND BUTLER AND POTENTIALLY HERALD THE RANCH ROAD AND BUTLER, AND WE DID IDENTIFY A ROUNDABOUT THAT HAD BEEN IN THE WORKS, HAD BEEN TALKED WITH TRANSPORTATION STAFF, AND THAT WAS THE BEST SCENARIO FOR HOW WE WERE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT AND AGAIN, DEPENDING ON HOW WE GO THROUGH THE DESIGN, IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO CHANGE DIRECTION, THAT IS BASICALLY UP TO THE COUNCIL.

IF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, WE CAN GO THERE BUT THE REASON WHY WE CAME BEFORE YOU ON MARCH 29TH WAS JUST TO GET AHEAD OF THIS OF CURRENTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW.

SECOND-GUESSING AND MAYBE LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATE OR A PLAN B BECAUSE STAFF WOULD JUST LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD, GET THE PROJECT AS ENDORSED BY COUNCIL ON MARCH 29TH, AND CONTINUE THAT PROCESS TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS PART OF 419.

THE TRANSPORTATION TAX AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO WHAT WE'VE HEARD TO COMPLETE THIS IMPROVEMENT.

I REMEMBER THAT MEETING HIM WHERE JEREMY AND I QUESTIONED HIM ABOUT THE CORE VALUES, IT WASN'T TOO CLEAR AS TO WHAT WERE THE UNDERLYING CORE VALUES, BUT I KNOW THAT JEREMY HEARD FROM ME THAT WE MAY EXPLORE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

THE SMART OUTCOME IS, WE NEED TO BE EXPLORING AS COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY SAID.

NO, WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS: ROUND ABOUTS, STANDARD INTERSECTIONS, AND PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS.

I'D SAY AS LONG AS WE'RE EXPLORING ROUNDABOUTS, WHICH I'LL BE EXPLORING PROTECTED BECAUSE IT'S TWO DIFFERENT CORE VALUES THAT WE'RE WRESTLING WITH.

BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND I'M SORRY THAT COME OFF LIKE I'M SECOND-GUESSING.

I JUST KNOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH A GROWTH EXPERIENCE AND CHANGING OUR WAYS, SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI.

I WILL JUST NOTE THOUGH THAT A LOT OF THESE DECISIONS HAVE THE DECISIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE, AND ONE OF THE BIG FACTORS THAT WE'RE SEEING AND SO LARGE OF INFLATIONARY COSTS AND A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS, AS WE KEEP GOING BACK TO IT AND WE LOSE A CONSTRUCTION SEASON AND NOW COST OR EVEN HIGHER, THESE DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND OUR STAFF IS WORKING HARD AND I APPRECIATE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE MARCH 29TH FOR BRINGING THE COUNCIL TO THE TABLE, GETTING SOME DIRECTION FROM US FOR MOVING FORWARD AT A VERY EARLY STAGE.

I TRUST THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AWITH THAT. OH, SORRY. COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY.

CITY MANAGER.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT [LAUGHTER] SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS ON THE BEULAH ROUNDABOUT, WE'RE GOING TO GET A REPORT ON COSTS, ETC.

YES.

SO AFTER WE GET THAT, COULD LEAD TO ANOTHER CONVERSATION POTENTIALLY DEPENDING ON HOW COUNCIL FEELS AFTER WE SEE THAT REPORT.

I DO BELIEVE IT WILL HELP INFORM ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS THAT DO OCCUR. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. I CAN WAIT TILL AFTER WE GET THAT REPORT BEFORE I MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? I BELIEVE SO, I JUST CAN'T COMMIT TO WHEN THAT REPORT IS COMING.

I KNOW THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON IT AS WE SPEAK.

PRETTY DAN QUICK, RIGHT? YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? ALL RIGHT.

THEN LET'S MOVE ON HERE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8,

[8. Lived Black Experience Update]

THANK YOU.

WE CAN GO AHEAD [OVERLAPPING].

[01:30:02]

WHAT'S THAT? I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY.

FOR THIS POINT OF ORDER, I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY FOR A COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE TO RECUSE HERSELF BECAUSE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING AND WE'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION.

WE ARE LISTENING TO AN UPDATE.

COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE APPROACHED ME ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY BECAUSE THERE IS PECUNIARY GAIN THAT COULD COME OUT OF DIRECTION, THAT COMES FROM THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT THAT COULD EVENTUALLY BE VOTED ON.

IT'S TECHNICALLY HER CALL TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.

PECUNIARY MEANING FINANCIAL GAIN? POSSIBLE FINANCIAL GAIN, CORRECT.

HI, GUYS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE, EVEN IF IT'S NOT AS DIRECT.

[LAUGHTER] CERTAINLY.

ALL RIGHT.

>> MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CAN I KICK THIS OFF?

>> YES, PLEASE.

>> I WILL INTRODUCE MS. DEB HARRISON, ASK HER TO COME ON UP AND SHARE COMMENTS WITH YOU.

I WANT TO PREFACE THE DISCUSSION.

THIS IS A COMPLICATION ATTRIBUTED TO THE FIRE, BUT WE DID HAVE A PRESENTATION QUEUED UP FOR YOU.

WE DO NOT HAVE IT AT THIS TIME.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK MS. DEB IF SHE WOULD GIVE YOU THE NARRATIVE OF THIS, AND THEN WE CAN FOLLOW THROUGH AT THE STAFF LEVEL AND PRESENT THE PRESENTATION TO YOU, IF THAT'S OKAY. [NOISE]

>> THAT'S FINE.

>> VERY GOOD.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE.

WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER THAT IS COORDINATOR FOR THE LIVE BLACK EXPERIENCED PROJECT AND SHE DID NOT THINK SHE WAS GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THE FIRE, BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT SHE IS AND SO SHE'S NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.

BUT WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION AND I WOULD LIKE FOR HER TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT TO YOU AT A LATER DATE AND TIME.

HOPEFULLY SOMETIME AFTER PROBABLY YOU COME BACK FROM BREAK BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING WITH THE FIRE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT'D BE BEST AND PLEASE [INAUDIBLE] WELL-WISHES AND SAFETY FOR HER AND HER PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT, THEN I'M SUSPECTING, SO WE'LL JUST MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT ITEM AND WE'LL GET A MORE THOROUGH DISCUSSION FOR [OVERLAPPING]

>> YES.

>> THAT EXPERIENCE.

>> ON THE BLACK EXPERIENCE.

THINGS WERE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT JUST AS THEY DID A YEAR AGO.

THIS TIME WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A LITTLE MORE TIME TO GET THAT PRESENTATION FOR YOU.

BUT EVERYTHING IS SET, BUDGETARILY SPEAKING, SO THERE'S NO COMPLICATIONS IN HAVING A LITTLE MORE TIME ON THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THAT SHOULD WORK AND THEN WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, I SUSPECT THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER OF A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSIONS SO LET'S TAKE A LITTLE BREAK.

[NOISE] I'LL HAVE A LITTLE PIT STOP BEFORE WE GO TO THE HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE PRESENTATION AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT DISCUSSION.

LET'S DO 15 MINUTES, SO 4:50 WE WILL RESTART.

THANK YOU. WE'RE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 9, HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE PRESENTATION AND AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT DISCUSSION. MR. DATA.

[9. High Country Humane Presentation and Intergovernmental Agreement Discussion City Council direction on possible funding and amendments to the Intergovernmental Agreement with Coconino County for Animal Sheltering Services.]

>> YES. HELLO MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, RICK TAYLOR, MANAGEMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.

THE ITEM BEING BROUGHT FORWARD YOU IS FROM C MAJOR GREG CLIFTON, THE BUDGET TEAM AND HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE ABOUT THEIR SERVICES AND THEIR FUNDING REQUESTS THEY BROUGHT FORWARD.

ALSO STAFF WILL BE SEEKING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ABOUT AMENDING THE IGA, THE INTER-GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH COCONINO COUNTY AND HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE FOR ANIMAL SHELTER SERVICES.

AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE HAD A DISCUSSION AT THE APRIL BUDGET RETREAT, BRIEF DISCUSSION AND FOR CONSIDERATION ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

AT THAT TIME, WE DID NOT APPROVE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE BUDGET THAT YOU'LL BE PASSING NEXT WEEK.

HOWEVER, BUDGET TEAM HAS STILL BEEN WORKING.

WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING AND [LAUGHTER] WE LOOKED AT THIS TOPIC AND CONVERSATIONS WITHIN.

DEFINITELY WE CAN FIND FUNDING OF 124,500 FOR ONE YEAR OF COMMITMENT FOR THIS INCREASED FUNDING, SO SHOULD COUNCIL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD THAT IS WHERE THE BUDGET TEAM HAS FOUND THE RESOURCES WITHIN OUR CONTINGENCY FUNDS THAT WERE SET ASIDE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THE BUDGET SIDE, AND I WILL HAND IT OVER TO HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE. THAT'S ALL.

>> THANK YOU.

>> [NOISE] MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, MEN AND WOMEN,

[01:35:02]

MY NAME IS MANDY METZGER.

I'M NOT LIZ OLSON, BUT I WILL INTRODUCE HER IN A MOMENT.

FIRST, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US ON TODAY.

WE KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS.

[NOISE] PARTICULARLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT AND PD, AND EOC AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT'S WORKING TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE.

IT IS HORRIFYING AND THERE'S SOME GRATITUDE AND WHAT DO I WANT TO SAY, CALMNESS IN SEEING BUSINESS CONTINUE AS USUAL.

VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.

WE'RE ALSO VERY GRATEFUL FOR OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU AND PARTNERSHIP WITH COCONINO COUNTY.

IT'S MY JOB AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO ASK FOR TWO THINGS AND THEN MAKE A STATEMENT.

ONE IS, PLEASE OUR CONTINUED EFFORTS FOR BUDGET AND WE REALIZE THAT WE'VE HAD A BIG ASK, BUT I THINK LIZ OLSON, OUR DIRECTOR, WILL BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU IN GREAT DETAIL ABOUT THAT.

OUR OTHER ASK WOULD BE THAT AN EXTENDED TERM OF CONTRACT.

WE ASK THAT PRIMARILY SO THAT WE CAN SECURE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, NOT FROM YOU, NOT FROM THE CITY, NOT FROM THE COUNTY, BUT FROM OTHER NGOS AND SPONSORS.

THAT WILL TAKE SOME OF THE HEAT HOPEFULLY OF YOU AS A FUNDER.

WE ALSO NEED A LONGER-TERM CONTRACT BECAUSE MY BUILDING RENOVATIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE OUT THERE ESPECIALLY SO WE CAN HAVE ISOLATION UNIT.

WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF DISEASE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE OUR [INAUDIBLE].

A LONGER-TERM CONTRACT WILL HELP US WITH THAT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, FUNDERS DON'T LIKE TO SAY YOU'RE ONLY IN BUSINESS FOR SIX MORE MONTHS OR A YEAR OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, SO THAT'S THE OTHER CONSIDERATION WE'RE ASKING FOR.

AS WITH MOST YOUNG ORGANIZATIONS, HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE HAS LESSONS TO LEARN ALONG THE WAY.

WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SAY IS HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE IS NO EXCEPTION.

WE KNOW THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO ADDRESSING QUESTIONS, AND CONCERNS, AND IDEAS, AND SOLUTIONS THAT FURTHER A SOLID PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

WE DEFINITELY VALUE OUR RELATIONSHIP AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING.

I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO LIZ OLSON, WHO IS OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND JUST APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND APPRECIATE BEING HERE, SO THANK YOU. [NOISE]

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MANDY. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I'M VERY PROUD AND APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR TIME AND TO BE HERE, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION AND I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING ABLE TO MEET WITH SEVERAL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS PREVIOUS TO THIS, SO I WILL GO THROUGH WHAT I'VE SHARED WITH YOU FOR TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY ON OUR ASK AND WHERE WE ARE.

FOR EVERYONE WATCHING AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE'S TIME.

TO GIVE SOME CLARITY, WE ARE IN A FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 2019 AND 2023 WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND COCONINO COUNTY AS YOUR ANIMAL SHELTER.

WE HAVE SEVERAL CONTRACTUAL SERVICES WHICH INCLUDE ANIMAL INTAKES FROM THE CITY IN THE COUNTY, PET ADOPTIONS ARE REQUIRED UNDER OUR CONTRACT, PUBLIC LOW-COST FOOD BANK, WHICH WE OFFER ONCE A MONTH AS REQUIRED UNDER OUR CONTRACTS, AND PUBLIC EDUCATION FOR SEVERAL PROGRAMS INCLUDING SPAY NEUTER, TRAP NEUTER AND RELEASE THE CAT PROGRAM, VACCINE CLINIC, CITY AND COUNTY ORDINANCES.

THOSE ARE AGAIN, EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS.

ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE HAS PARTICIPATED IN THE INTRODUCTION OF SEVERAL PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW IS A GROWING DEMAND, AND THOSE INCLUDE TNR COMMUNITY FIX AND RELEASE PROGRAM FOR CATS.

WE DO OFFER PUBLIC LOW-COST SPAY NEUTER AT A LIMITED BASIS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF SHELTER ANIMALS WE ARE SEEING THAT WE SQUEEZE THOSE IN AS WHEREVER WE CAN.

WE OFFER A BI-WEEKLY VACCINE CLINIC, PUBLIC LOW COST OF VET CARE FOR RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT CANNOT AFFORD CARE, AND WE RUN A PRETTY ROBUST VOLUNTEER AND FOSTER CARE PROGRAM.

THESE PROGRAMS ARE FUNDED BY HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE TO MEET THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS AND THE SHELTERS NEEDS FOR LOW COST VET CARE AND MANAGING OUR OCCUPANCY.

I DID LIKE TO GIVE A REFERENCE FOR OUR INTAKE GROWTH IN 2020,

[01:40:05]

IN 2021, WE GREW TO 3,553 ANIMALS.

ABOUT 40 PERCENT OF THOSE ARE COMING FROM THE CITY, 55 PERCENT ARE COMING FROM THE COUNTY, AND THERE'S A ROUGHLY FIVE PERCENT THAT COME FROM OUT OF COUNTY.

WE ALSO DO SOME ADDITIONAL SERVICES.

ALL OF THOSE PUBLIC SERVICES I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED ARE BROUGHT INTO THIS SLIDE, WHICH SHOW THAT WE SEE AN ADDITIONAL 7,600 VACCINE CLIENTS, LOW-COST APPOINTMENTS [INAUDIBLE] ALMOST 700 LOW-COST SPAY NEUTER APPOINTMENTS LAST YEAR.

IN TOTAL, THE SHELTERS INTAKE NUMBERS FOR NOT ONLY CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS BUT FOR PUBLIC SERVICES IS GROWING.

WE SAW WITH A SINGLE VETERINARIAN, 11,206 ANIMALS IN MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY LAST YEAR.

[NOISE] WE DO LIKE TO SHARE THAT WITH THAT GROWING INTAKE NUMBER AND THOSE HIGH NUMBERS AND GROWING DEMANDS THAT WE ARE REALLY PROUD TO SAY THAT OUR LIVE/RELEASE RATE, THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SAVE EVERY YEAR CONTINUES TO GROW EVEN AS OUR INTAKE NUMBERS GROW.

IN 2020 OUR LIVE/RELEASE RATE WAS 96.4 PERCENT AND IN 2021, IT WAS 97.8.

WE ARE ON TRACK TO EXCEED THAT NUMBER.

WE'RE AT OVER 98 PERCENT RIGHT NOW IN THE FIRST HALF OF OUR YEAR.

WE CAN'T SAY ENOUGH AND I WILL TRY NOT TO GET EMOTIONAL BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFICULT WEEK, BUT OUR COMMUNITY HAS REALLY STEPPED UP FOR HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE.

WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT THE NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS AND FOSTER FAMILIES THAT HELP OUR ORGANIZATION.

TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW, WE CONTINUE TO GROW COMMUNITY SUPPORT BY GROWING THE NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS THAT WE HAVE, THE NUMBER OF FOSTER VOLUNTEERS WE HAVE, AND THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT WE ARE PUTTING INTO FOSTER CARE.

AS OUR INTAKE NUMBERS GROW, WE ARE ALSO GROWING THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT WE ARE PUTTING INTO FOSTER CARE, AS THE SIZE OF OUR BUILDING IS NOT GROWING.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'D LIKE TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT THAT WE DO HAVE SOME CAPACITY CONCERNS.

IN OUR BUILDING ANNUALLY, WE FEEL THAT AND I DID AN ANALYSIS, I'M SORRY, ON OUR CAPACITY FOR CARE THAT HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE IN THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN CAN HOUSE 2500 ANIMALS ANNUALLY.

THAT'S ROUGHLY 145 ANIMALS IN THE BUILDING.

TO GIVE YOU A REFERENCE, TODAY, WE HAVE 300 ANIMALS IN THE SYSTEM.

THERE ARE NO ANIMALS IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN EVACUATED.

BUT WHEN WE DO GO BACK, WE HAD OVER 180 ANIMALS WHEN WE WENT FOR EVACUATION ON SUNDAY, SO IT IS TIGHT [LAUGHTER].

AS WE SEE, INTAKE NUMBERS GROW, THERE'S MORE AND MORE PRESSURE ON MANAGING THAT CAPACITY FOR CARE.

WE ARE STRUGGLING TO MANAGE DISEASE IN A BUILDING THAT HAS VERY FEW ISOLATION OPTIONS.

WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT MORE HUMANE HOUSING.

OUR BUILDING IS RELATIVELY OLD, 25 YEARS OLD.

WE WOULD LOVE TO PROVIDE DOGS MORE HUMANE HOUSING BY DOING INDOOR/OUTDOOR KENNELS.

ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO VISIT, WHICH IS LOVELY.

ALL OF THOSE KENNELS INDOORS, INCREASED DISEASE AND JUST STRESS ON THE ANIMALS.

WE WOULD LOVE A SEPARATE HOUSING AREA FOR PUPPIES.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE AS YOU SAW, I'M SURE DURING YOUR TOURS AS WELL, WE'RE HOUSING PUPPIES IN THE LOBBY, WHICH CAN BE VERY TIME-CONSUMING TO MANAGE AND JUST DIFFICULT ON STAFF AND ANIMALS.

WE WOULD ALSO LOVE A PLACE FOR SMALL DOG HOUSING.

AS WE DO HAVE A LOT OF SMALL DOGS THAT COME IN.

THE MAJORITY OF OUR ANIMALS ARE LARGER DOGS, NOT SPEAKING OF CATS.

BUT FOR DOG HOUSING, WE DON'T HAVE A SEPARATE AREA.

SO EVERYONE'S MIXED IN, WHICH AGAIN, INCREASES STRESS AND DISEASE.

THE COST PER ANIMAL, WHICH IS A VERY RELIABLE NUMBER FOR OUR MARKET IS ROUGHLY 300 DOLLARS PER ANIMAL.

THAT IS THE COST OF CARE IN A FACILITY OF OUR SIZE AND OUR DEMOGRAPHIC.

RELATED TO DISEASE. IN 2020, WE DID SEE A LOT OF DISEASE 77 PERCENT OF THE ANIMALS THAT CAME IN, WE'RE HAVING TO BE TREATED IN SOME FORM OR FASHION FOR A DISEASE.

THE TOP FIVE DISEASES WE SEE ARE GIARDIA, TICKS, UPPER RESPIRATORY, WHICH IS LIKE A COUGH, PARVO, WHICH IS EXTREMELY CONTAGIOUS AND DEADLY, AND MANGE, AND THAT'S JUST THE TOP FIVE.

WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THOSE NUMBERS AS LAST YEAR, BUT I THINK THAT HAS BEEN A LOT OF HARD WORK ON THE MEDICAL TEAM TO ISOLATE, TO MANAGE PROTOCOLS, AND TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM.

IN 2021, WE DID SEE THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT WERE BEING

[01:45:04]

BUT WE'RE STILL SEEING A HUGE NUMBER OF ANIMALS NOT FIXED, 74 PERCENT IN 2020 AND 2021 HAD TO BE SPAYED OR NEUTERED.

SO OF THAT 2900 AND OF THAT 3500, 75 PERCENT OF THOSE ANIMALS HAD TO BE FIXED BEFORE THEY COULD GO UP FOR ADOPTION.

IT'S A VERY, VERY HIGH NUMBER.

ALMOST TWO-THIRDS OF OUR POPULATION COMES IN NOT SPAYED OR NEUTERED.

THIS IS A SLIDE ABOUT REVENUE, TALKING ABOUT OUR FINANCIALS.

AGAIN, BEING VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN OUR FUNDING AND HOW THAT RELATES TO OUR ASK.

IN 2020, HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE RAISED 673,000 DOLLARS IN PRIVATE FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE DIFFERENTIAL IN OUR CONTRACT AND GENERAL OPERATIONS AT THE SHELTER.

IN 2021 AGAIN, WE ARE GROWING THAT NUMBER.

WE RAISED 855,000 DOLLARS, WHICH IS 50 PERCENT OF OUR OPERATING INCOME.

WE SEPARATE OUT ADOPTION FEES, SO WE RAISED 204,000 DOLLARS LAST YEAR IN ADOPTION FEE INCOME.

THE PORTION OF OUR CONTRACTS WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY SERVING IS PROVIDING 655,000 DOLLARS A YEAR.

THIS NEXT SLIDE AGAIN JUST GIVES YOU A PIE CHART THAT HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE IS RAISING 50 PERCENT OF THE FUNDS TO MEET GENERAL OPERATING COST.

THE CITY AND THE COUNTY'S CONTRACT IS MEETING 38 PERCENT OF THOSE COSTS, AND ADOPTION FEES, AGAIN, WHICH ARE CONSIDERED SEPARATE, ARE PROVIDING ALMOST 12 PERCENT OF THE OPERATING COSTS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF SOLUTIONS.

OUR POPULATION CRISIS IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND COCONINO COUNTY, WE KNOW HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.

WE ARE FEELING A LOT OF PRESSURE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND TO SERVE ALL OF THE ANIMALS THAT COME TO OUR DOOR.

WE HAVE OBSERVED, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT HIGH NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT ARE NOT FIXED AT THAT THE COMMUNITY DESPERATELY NEEDS A LOW-COST SPAY-NEUTER PROGRAM AND LOW-COST VET SERVICES.

WE ARE TRYING DESPERATELY TO MEET ALL OF THOSE NEEDS.

BUT WITH OUR SINGLE VETERINARIAN SEEING ALMOST 12,000 ANIMALS A YEAR, IT HAS BEEN ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC IN ANY FORM THAT WE CAN KEEP CONSISTENT.

WE DO ALMOST 90 SPAY-NEUTER SURGERIES A WEEK AND WE SEE ALMOST 24 FOSTER FAMILIES, PUBLIC VET CLIENTS IN THOSE OTHER TWO DAYS WHERE WE'RE NOT DOING SPAY-NEUTER.

IT IS AN EXTREMELY HIGH VOLUME MEDICAL CLINIC THAT WE RUN FOR A VERY HIGH VOLUME SHELTER.

THE SECOND IS THAT WE KNOW WE NEED BETTER BUILDING SPACE TO MANAGE DISEASE.

WE SEE A VERY HIGH NUMBER OF CONTAGIOUS DISEASE AT HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE FUNDING TO FUND FOR A MEDICAL ISOLATION UNIT WHERE WE CAN EVALUATE AND TREAT SERIOUS CONTAGIOUS MEDICAL CONDITIONS THAT AT THIS TIME ARE BEING TREATED IN AREAS THAT ARE PUBLIC-FACING AND SOMETIMES NOT APPROPRIATE FOR CONTAGIOUS DISEASE MANAGEMENT SUCH AS A BATHROOM OR AN INTAKE EXAM ROOM.

AGAIN, WE WOULD LIKE TO ALSO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR DOGS, INDOOR/OUTDOOR KENNELS, ADOPTION HOUSING FOR SMALL DOGS AND PUPPIES THAT ARE NOT IN THE LOBBY OR IN INAPPROPRIATE AREAS FOR ANIMALS IN OUR BUILDING.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I'VE REALLY APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TODAY AND TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO ALL OF YOU AND PROVIDE YOU A TOUR AND SHARE WHAT WE DO.

WE'RE REALLY THANKFUL FOR OUR PARTNERSHIP.

JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WITH TRANSPARENCY, WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD TOGETHER, AND FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND OUR CONTRACTS.

SO THANK YOU AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> THANK YOU, LIZ. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU'VE BEEN FACING THE LAST 48 HOURS.

THE EVACUATIONS, AND HOW WELL YOU TOOK CARE OF THAT SITUATION IS SO IMPRESSIVE.

TO ANYONE LISTENING OUT THERE, IF YOU EVER WANT TO FOSTER PUPPY, I DID GRAB ONE THE OTHER DAY AT FORT TUT HILL TO TRY TO HELP OUT MY WIFE DID.

SHE WAS LIKE, "WE HAVE TO GET ONE." BUT REGARDLESS, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU STILL ABLE TO COME HERE TODAY AND WE DO VALUE OUR PARTNERSHIP.

WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THAT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION, MY APOLOGIES.

ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO GO WITH PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FIRST AND THEN WE WILL CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU.

[01:50:04]

>> SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE SUSAN AND MARCUS FROM THE CAT SANCTUARY.

>> COUNCIL AND MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.

THE LAST NAME IS MARUE, M-A-R-U-E, SO GET THAT CORRECT.

>> OKAY. SORRY.

>> HAVE YOU READ THE LETTER WE SENT YOU ABOUT A WEEK AGO? HAS THE COUNCIL READ THAT LETTER? IT WAS AN EMAIL.

>> THE CAT SANCTUARY.

>> WAS THAT THE ONE ABOUT CATS GOING IN.

>> IT WAS FROM THE ARK CAT SANCTUARY, YES.

>> YES, I READ THAT.

>> I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF YOU'VE READ IT.

I'VE GOT A LITTLE DEBATE IN MY MIND WHETHER TO REREAD IT OR NOT.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND START IN ON IT.

WE BECOME AWARE THAT HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE IS REQUESTING A LOT OF MONEY ADDITIONALLY FOR THEIR OPERATIONS.

WE HAVE SOME REALLY GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT THIS THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE, AND I'M SHARING IT PUBLICLY AT THIS POINT.

THE CURRENT CONTRACT SPECIFIES THAT HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE SHOULD BE RECEIVING UNWANTED AND STRAY ANIMALS FROM UNINCORPORATED COCONINO COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS.

IT SAYS ALSO, THIS IS QUOTING THE CONTRACT, "NOMINAL FEES MAY BE CHARGED FOR OWNER SURRENDERS BASED ON CIRCUMSTANCES AT THE DISCRETION OF THE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR." IT ALSO STATES THAT HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE SHOULD BE RECEIVING ANIMALS IMPOUNDED BY COUNTY ANIMAL MANAGEMENT OFFICERS AND CITY ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, INCLUDING POLICE OFFICERS, IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR DUTIES 24 HOURS A DAY, AND A PLACE TO HOLD SAID ANIMALS FOR AT LEAST 72 HOURS PER ARS 11-1013.

HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE HAS RECENTLY CHANGED THEIR POLICY RESULTING IN FLAGSTAFF CITY ANIMAL CONTROL NO LONGER PICKING UP STRAY CATS FROM THE PUBLIC UNLESS THEY ARE EITHER PREGNANT OR INJURED.

THIS IS CLEARLY NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CURRENT CONTRACT THEY HOLD WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY FOR ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES.

WE HAVE RECEIVED DIRECT CONFIRMATION OF THIS POLICY CHANGE FROM BOTH THE FLAGSTAFF ANIMAL CONTROL AS WELL AS FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE REGULARLY GET PHONE CALLS FROM PEOPLE WITH FOUND STRAY CATS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TURNED AWAY OR PEOPLE LOOKING FOR HELP FOR LOST CATS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND.

ADDITIONALLY, THEY ARE CHARGING SIGNIFICANT FEES FOR OWNER SURRENDERS NOT THE NOMINAL FEES MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY IN THE CONTRACT.

THEY ALSO TELL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT IF THEY'VE BEEN FEEDING A CAT FOR MORE THAN FIVE DAYS, THEY OWN IT AND HAVE TO TAKE A SURRENDER FEE FOR HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE TO ACCEPT THE CAT.

WE HAVE HERE A DEFINITION OF WHAT NOMINAL IS, OF A PRICE OR AMOUNT OF MONEY, VERY SMALL, FAR BELOW REAL VALUE OR COST.

THIS SHUTS OUT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO NEED TO SURRENDER A CAT AND CAN'T AFFORD THE FEES AND THIS IN TURN INCREASES THE NUMBER OF STRAY CATS ON THE STREET. YEAH, GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU, SUSAN. YOU ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WHICH IS UP?

>> SO I'M JAMMED UP?

>> YES. COUNCILMEMBER, SALAS.

>> HELLO, MS. MARUE.

WHAT IS YOUR REQUEST TO THIS COUNCIL?

>> MY REQUEST IS I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO GIVE THEM MORE MONEY, WHAT I AM AFTER THERE IS NO SPAY NEUTER SERVICES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC OR TO THE OTHER RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS TOWN.

I CITED THAT IN THE LETTER, I TOLD YOU WHAT THE COSTS ARE WHEN YOU GO TO A PRIVATE CLINIC TO DO THIS.

OUR MAXIMUM ADOPTION FEE FOR A KITTEN IS $200.

THE SPAY NEUTER COSTS ARE MORE THAN THAT COST.

HER BUDGET IS 12.5 PERCENT, OUR BUDGET IS 50 PERCENT OF OUR BUDGET IS THE ADOPTION FEES.

ADOPTION FEES ALSO ENSURE THAT AN ADOPTER IS PREPARED TO GIVE SOME LEVEL OF CARE TO THIS ANIMAL AFTER THEY HAVE IT.

MY REQUEST IS IF YOU GIVE THEM MORE MONEY, PLEASE PUT A REQUIREMENT ON THIS.

THEY NEED TO SUPPLY SPAY NEUTER SERVICES FOR THIS COMMUNITY WITHOUT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST PEOPLE LIKE US, WHICH THEY HAVE DONE.

THIS IS PUBLIC FUNDING, IT NEEDS TO BE USED FOR THE PUBLIC.

THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE THING I AM ASKING FOR TODAY IS WE GET THIS FOR THIS TOWN BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE IT AND THERE'S AN EXPLOSION OF THE NUMBER OF CATS OUT THERE ON THE STREET WITH NO HELP.

THE HELP IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN UNLESS WE HAVE SPAY NEUTER.

AS YOU READ MY LETTER, WE HAVE BEEN FOR OVER A YEAR HAVING TO TAKE THESE ANIMALS OUT OF THIS AREA TO GET THE SPAY NEUTERS DONE.

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WE'RE TRYING TO FIND SOURCES TO GET THAT AFFORDABLY ENOUGH SO WE CAN KEEP DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHICH IS ANSWER THE CALLS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE DESPERATE.

WE HAD SOME PEOPLE IN DECEMBER, IT'S JUST ONE OF THE CASES I REMEMBER, TURNED AWAY BY EVERY SHELTER IN NORTHERN ARIZONA.

THEY WERE IN THEIR CAR DRIVING AROUND TRYING TO FIND SOMEBODY TO TAKE THEIR TWO CATS.

FRIDAY NIGHT, NINE O'CLOCK, I ANSWERED THE PHONE AND I FIND OUT THEIR SITUATION.

I'M FULL JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, WE HAVE 250 CATS TO 300 CATS AT THE ARC, I HAVE ANOTHER 150 IN FOSTER, WE'RE FACED WITH THE SAME THING THEY ARE.

WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY TO GO TO TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY.

WE TOLD THE PEOPLE, GO AHEAD, BRING YOUR CATS.

THEY TAKE A WRONG TURN ON I40, THEY HEAD EAST.

THEY CALL ME BACK AND I SAY, STILL GO AHEAD AND COME.

THEY SHOW UP AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.

I TOOK THEIR TWO CATS, I FED THEM DINNER, GAVE THEM SOME GAS MONEY, AND I KEPT THEIR CATS FOR FIVE MONTHS.

THEY CAME BACK IN MAY AND WE'RE SO GRATEFUL.

WE DID NOT CHARGE THEM A FEE BECAUSE THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WE DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY A SURRENDER FEE.

AND THEY'RE DESPERATE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

I WILL DO THIS AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.

THEY LEFT AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND THEN I FINISHED MY NIGHT ROUND.

THAT'S THE WAY MY LIFE IS.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO ASK, BUT WE NEED SPAY NEUTER SERVICES FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN INCLUDING US.

THAT HAS TO BE IN THERE, AND THAT IS MY BOTTOM-LINE.

>> THANK YOU, SUSAN.

>> WE ACTUALLY HAVE IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE AMY SIPS.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. WELL, ALMOST GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS AMY SIPS AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF FLAGSTAFF SINCE 1960.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN MULTIPLE ANIMAL GROUPS, IT'S JUST A PASSION OF MINE.

I'VE ALSO DONE TNR, TRAP NEUTER RETURN FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS, BOTH INDIVIDUALLY AND WITH OTHER GROUPS.

I JUST WANTED TO STATE, WHILE HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE CURRENTLY OFFERS A WONDERFUL PROGRAM TO PAY FOR COMMUNITY CAT SPAY NEUTERS, WHICH IS REALLY NEEDED, THERE'S ALSO A CRITICAL NEED FOR ASSISTANCE FOR PET OWNERS.

HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE ORIGINALLY OFFERED, I UNDERSTAND, A PROGRAM FOR PET OWNERS FOR SPAY NEUTER BUT THAT WAS DISCONTINUED DURING COVID, AND I WASN'T AWARE THAT IT HAD BEEN RESUMED IF IT HAS BEEN.

AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THERE'S CURRENTLY NO LOW COST SPAY NEUTER SERVICES FOR ACTUAL PET OWNERS IN TOWN.

THE CURRENT COST OF SPAY NEUTER SERVICES THROUGH YOUR LOCAL VETERINARIAN, IT'S JUST SO EXPENSIVE FOR A MAJORITY OF THE PET OWNERS, THEY JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT.

I'M ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.

IT WILL GO A LONG WAY IN REDUCING ANIMAL SUFFERING, BUT IT WOULD ALSO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBER OF STRAY ANIMALS NEEDING THE SHELTER SERVICES, WHICH WOULD IN TURN HELP REDUCE COST FOR SHELTERING AND ANIMAL CONTROL.

IF HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE AND THE CITY WOULD FOCUS ON WORKING TOGETHER ON THE CAUSE OF THE PET POPULATION, WHICH IS A LOT OF THESE PET OWNERS NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD GETTING THEIR ANIMALS FIXED INSTEAD, THAT WOULD HELP NOT HAVING TO DO CATCH UP AT THE SHELTER IN THEN, THAT COULD PROVIDE US A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE AT A LOWER COST.

SO I ASK THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN CONTRACTING WITH HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE FOR ANIMAL WELFARE SERVICES TO CONSIDER DESIGNATING A SPECIFIC AMOUNT TO BE SET ASIDE TO FUND LOW COST SPAY NEUTER FOR PET OWNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR BOTH DOGS AND CATS.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, AMY. ALSO, NOW I HAVE MIYA OLSHU.

>> HI, MY NAME IS MAYA HAWKER.

TODAY I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MICHELLE RYAN OF COCONINO HUMANE ASSOCIATION.

IT READS AS FOLLOWS, "DEAR MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE ACCEPT MY PROXY TO READ MY LETTER AS I AM UNABLE TO ATTEND YOUR MEETING DUE TO PROVIDING ANIMAL EVACUATION AND SHELTERING FOR 535 ANIMAL EVACUEES AND MANY OF THEIR OWNERS.

YOU WILL RECEIVE A COPY OF THE FULL LETTER VIA YOUR EMAIL.

AGAIN, DEAR MR. MAYOR AND FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL, COCONINO COUNTY MANAGER, AND COCONINO COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS,

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WE APPRECIATE HOW DIFFICULT IT MUST BE TO MAINTAIN A NEW SHELTER IN A COMMUNITY WHERE COCONINO HUMANE ASSOCIATION, CHA WAS PREVIOUSLY CONTRACTED FOR OVER 50 YEARS.

FOR THE CHA, OUR MISSION IS TO OPERATE A HUMANE AND CARING SHELTER THAT WILL GIVE AID TO UNWANTED, ABANDONED, AND MISTREATED ANIMALS IN FLAGSTAFF AND ACROSS NORTHERN ARIZONA.

WHILE HCH HAS A MISSION TO PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL ANIMAL CARE AND ADOPTION SERVICES, WE BELIEVE IT IS GERMANE TO THE TOPIC OF THE CONTRACT MODIFICATION TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN REPORTED TO US ON THE CURRENT FAILURES TO MEET THE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY.

THE ANIMAL WELFARE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN UNSATISFIED WITH HCH'S INSUFFICIENT AMENITIES AND POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND COCONINO COUNTY.

RESIDENTS ARE BEING FORCED TO TRAVEL BACK-AND-FORTH BETWEEN SHELTERS, BEGGING FOR HELP, AND HAVING REPORTED FEELING LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN PUSHED ASIDE, INSULTED, FELT DISCRIMINATED AGAINST, FORGOTTEN OR JUST PLAIN REFUSED ASSISTANCE BY HCH.

FOR REFERENCE, WE HAVE PROVIDED FIRST-HAND ACCOUNTS WRITTEN BY RESIDENTS.

THOSE ARE IN THE EMAIL SENT TO YOU, SORRY.

AT CHA, OUR STAFF ARE GUIDED BY MORE THAN OUR MISSION.

WE ARE GUIDED BY MORAL AND ETHICAL RESPONSIBILITY TO ASSIST OUR COMMUNITIES, RESIDENTS AND ANIMALS IN NEED.

HOWEVER, THESE SERVICES ARE PART OF THE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN COCONINO COUNTY AND CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE, AS CURRENTLY NAMED THE CITY/COUNTY SHELTER.

CHA AND OTHER LOCAL NON-PROFITS ARE PROVIDING SERVICES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY COUNTY SHELTER BECAUSE HCH EITHER WILL NOT OR CANNOT LIVE UP TO THEIR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.

THIS SEVERELY STRAINS ALL OF OUR RESOURCES.

STRAY ANIMALS HAVE BECOME AN AREA OF CONCERN.

PER COCONINO COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES REQUIREMENTS, ALL STRAY ANIMALS ARE TO BE HOUSED BY HCH.

THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE WITH SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF STRAY ANIMALS BEING REFUSED BY HCH AND REFERRED TO OTHER SHELTERS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

THIS REDIRECTION OF ANIMALS BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN SHELTERS CONSUMES TIME AND RESOURCES BY STAFF AND RESIDENTS, AND CREATES CONFUSION AS TO THE CURRENT LOCATION TO TAKE STRAY ANIMALS.

RECEIVING UNWANTED AND STRAY ANIMALS IS A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION AS IS PROVIDING PUBLIC SPAY NEUTER CLINICS.

MAYBE THIS HAS BEEN UNNOTICED BY OTHERS THAT HCH CLOSED DOWN THEIR PUBLIC SPAY NEUTER CLINICS LAST YEAR.

SINCE 2019, CHA HAS PROVIDED SPAY NEUTER ASSISTANCE." ALREADY I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SKIP TO THE REQUEST.

>> THANK YOU. YES, PLEASE.

>> THE COCONINO HUMANE ASSOCIATION GENUINELY FEELS THAT IT IS TIME FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, COCONINO COUNTY AND HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE TO ENSURE THE SERVICES THAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD PROVIDE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, ARE DONE FOR IT OR PAY OTHER SHELTERS TO TAKE ON THE BURDEN OF THE UNWANTED, ABANDONED, AND MISTREATED ANIMALS FOR THE TIME AND RESOURCES EXPENDED FOR THEIR CARE.

WHICH FOR REFERENCE, THE TOTAL ESTIMATED COST OF HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE CONTRACTED SERVICES THAT CHA ACTUALLY PROVIDED FOR THE LAST FISCAL YEAR IS $343,455.

THE FAILURE TO PROVIDE CONTRACTED SERVICES HAS INCURRED HEAVY BURDEN ON FLAGSTAFF AND COCONINO COUNTY RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS CHA AND OTHER ANIMAL SHELTERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES IN GREATER DEPTH AT A MUTUALLY AGREED UPON TIME AND DATE AND PLACE.

PLEASE CONTACT US BEING MICHELLE RYAN AT YOUR EARLIEST CONVENIENCE. THANK YOU. [NOISE]

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, I DO BELIEVE THAT WAS MY LAST CARD.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING ONLINE.

>> GREAT.

>> ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, LET'S BRING IT TO OUR COUNCIL DISCUSSION FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY. [NOISE].

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL JUST MAKE TWO POINTS.

I DO SUPPORT THE ONE-TIME EXTRA ALLOCATION, WHICH WAS WHAT, 124,500, THAT'S MY FIRST POINT.

I'M SUPPORTING THAT AS A WAY THAT WE CAN HELP BRING THINGS UP TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

I ALSO THINK THAT WE SHOULD DIRECT STAFF TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CONTRACTUAL ISSUES THAT MIGHT INCLUDE A LONGER-TERM CONTRACT.

IT MIGHT INCLUDE SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS WE HEARD TONIGHT.

IT MIGHT INCLUDE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE OF KNOWN INTERESTS TO OUR STAFF MEMBERS.

THOSE ARE MY TWO COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY.

OTHERS? OKAY, THANKS, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU, LIZ, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

WHEN WE MET A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, I DID ASK AND I'M GOING TO ASK AGAIN, WHAT IS YOUR PROCESS FOR GETTING GRANTS?

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>> YES, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE QUESTION.

I ALONG WITH A COMMITTEE OR BOARD MEMBERS, IS IN CHARGE OF GRANT FUNDING.

WE HAVE DOUBLED OUR GRANT FUNDING BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 2020 AND 2021, AND ARE ON TRACK TO EXCEED OUR NUMBER FROM LAST YEAR.

THERE ARE GRANTS AVAILABLE IN ANIMAL WELFARE MOSTLY NATIONALLY.

I FEEL THERE ARE VERY FEW OPTIONS LOCALLY FOR GRANT FUNDING.

A LOT OF PROGRAMS LOCALLY ARE VERY HUMAN-FOCUSED, WHICH IS VERY UNDERSTANDABLE.

VERY FEW ARE AVAILABLE LOCALLY FOR ANIMAL.

WE DO HAVE THE LICENSE PLATE GRANT WITH THE COUNTY OFFERING SPAY NEUTER VOUCHERS TO RESIDENTS, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND THOSE ARE THE MANY OF THE PUBLIC SPAY NEUTER SURGERIES WE DID LAST YEAR.

WAS THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY THROUGH THAT GRANT PROGRAM.

BUT WE ARE ACTIVELY SEEKING GRANTS.

A LOT OF TIMES IT ALSO REQUIRES THE CREATION OF A PROGRAM AND THAT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO MANAGE ON TOP OF THE DAILY DEMANDS BEING SO HIGH.

BUT WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON GRANT FUNDING.

IT IS A PROGRESSIVE EFFORT AND WE ARE GROWING OUR GRANT FUNDING EVERY YEAR.

A LONGER-TERM CONTRACT AGAIN, WILL GIVE US MORE STABILITY TO APPLY FOR BIGGER GRANTS THAT ARE MORE SUSTAINABLE.

WE ARE VERY THANKFUL AGAIN FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR AN EXTENSION ON THE CONTRACT.

NOT ONLY BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE AND VALUE THE PARTNERSHIP AND THIS OPPORTUNITY, BUT AGAIN, IT WILL INCREASE OUR OPPORTUNITY FOR GRANT FUNDING. THANK YOU.

>> VICE MAYOR. OTHERS? COUNCILMEMBER SALAS.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION TO THE CITY MANAGER.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DISCUSSION TODAY IS THE CONTRACT WITH HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE, HOWEVER, BEING MINDFUL OF OTHER NON-PROFITS PROVIDING SERVICES LIKE THE COCONINO HUMANE ASSOCIATION AND THE R4 CATS SANCTUARY.

IS THERE ANY FUNDING AVAILABILITY THROUGH OUR PARTNER WITH UNITED WAY OR, I GUESS, I'M JUST THINKING OUT OF THE BOX HERE.

IS THERE ARE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS OTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS TO TAP INTO FUNDING FROM THE CITY?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION COUNCILMEMBER.

I'M NOT SURE IF THERE IS THROUGH UNITED WAY, BUT IT WOULD BE EASY FOR ME TO FIND OUT.

>> THE FOLLOW UP WILL BE, IS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DOLLARS WE SET ASIDE FOR SOCIAL SERVICES WITH THE LARGER UMBRELLA GENERAL AREA, IS THAT AVAILABLE FOR A GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS? I'M LOOKING AT TATTOO RIGHT THERE, RIGHT BEHIND YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT MR MAYOR.

>> THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTION. I GUESS I'M NOT FOLLOWING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UNITED WAY FUNDING.

WE DID GIVE THEM FUNDING FOR SOME SPECIFIC PURPOSES, FOR SOME DISTRIBUTE, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> [INAUDIBLE] WORK WITH UNITED WAY IN TERMS OF DISTRIBUTING FUNDING FOR LOCAL NON-PROFITS AND, OF COURSE, WITH THE MAYOR'S ITERATION, WE HAVE ARPA FUNDING WITH RESPECT TO ANIMAL'S SHELTER.

IS THAT FUNDING COURSE THROUGH UNITED WAY AS WELL OR IS THERE ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE OTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS TO TAP INTO THIS ARPA FUNDING?

>> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY FUNDING AS PART OF ARPA THAT WAS DESIGNATED FOR ANIMAL SHELTER SERVICES.

>> WE DID HAVE THE 150,000, I BELIEVE IT WAS THAT WAS SET ASIDE FOR GENERAL SOCIAL SERVICES LIKE THE OTHER CATEGORY OF SOCIAL SERVICES AS OPPOSED TO SPECIFICALLY FOOD, SPECIFICALLY SHELTERING.

>> I'LL PHONE A FRIEND AND SEE IF STACEY [INAUDIBLE] IS ON TONIGHT.

I KNOW SHE'S DEALING WITH THE FIRE ISSUE TOO TONIGHT, BUT IF SHE'S AVAILABLE,

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[OVERLAPPING] I'D HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE IF WE ALREADY AWARDED THAT AND IF THEY CAN'T GO TO UNITED WAY. I'VE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

>> OKAY.

>> YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

PLEASE LOOK INTO THAT AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER CATEGORY FOR JUST GENERAL ASSISTANCE TO NON-PROFITS.

>> WE'LL LOOK INTO THOSE CATEGORIES PLEASE, CONSIDERATIONS.

>> THANK YOU. WITH THAT MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A COMMENT.

I DO UNDERSTAND AND OF COURSE, HAVING TOURED THE FACILITY, I DO UNDERSTAND THE INCREASE IN CAPACITY AND VOLUME OF SERVICE HAVE REMARKABLY INCREASED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

BUT THERE'S ALSO GROWING NEEDS OF NOT ONLY FOR PET OWNERS IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, THERE'S NEED FOR A LOW COST SPAY NEUTER SERVICES.

I REMEMBER THREE YEARS AGO WHEN HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE JUST FORM AS A BABY NON-PROFIT.

I REMEMBER SAYING YOU'RE JUST IN YOUR FIRST TWO YEARS OF FORMATION AS A NON-PROFIT, YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE COSTS AND ALL OF THESE GROWING PAINS, AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL MAKE IT TO YOUR FIFTH YEAR MARK, WHICH WHEN WE SEND KIDS TO GO TO KINDERGARTEN, PRESCHOOL.

YOU'RE ON YOUR FOURTH YEAR, GETTING TO FOURTH YEAR.

I ALSO BELIEVE IN OUR STRONG PARTNERSHIP WITH COCONINO COUNTY.

WITH THAT, I WOULD RECOMMEND PARTICIPATING AND WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO ESTABLISH PERFORMANCE MEASURES IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT OF THE CONTRACT AND ADD A LANGUAGE THAT REFLECT THE 124,500 AS A ONETIME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022/23.

A QUICK NOTE ON THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES WILL HAVE TO FOCUS ON DELIVERING CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO SPAY NEUTER SERVICES COUNTY-WIDE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SALAS.

I'LL JUMP IN HERE THEN.

REGARDS TO THE $124,500, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS AS ONETIME FUNDING AS WE WERE USING CONTINGENCY FUNDS FOR THIS PURPOSE SPECIFICALLY.

BUT WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE MORE THOROUGH DISCUSSION ON LONG-TERM FUNDING AT A LATER TIME.

ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THAT THOUGH, IS THAT, I'LL BE FRANK, I THINK WE ALL GOT A BIT OF STICKER SHOCK WHEN THE DOLLAR REQUEST CAME IN, PARTICULARLY SO LATE IN OUR BUDGET PROCESS.

TO MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONTRACT IS THAT THE CITY HAS AN INDIVIDUAL ON THE BOARD, STAFF REPRESENTATION OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

IT WOULD BE FAR BETTER FOR US, I THINK MOVING FORWARD TO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL FROM CITY STAFF BEING ABLE TO KEEP A PULSE ON THE SITUATION, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, AND PARTICULARLY WITH SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN, MAKING SURE WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC DOLLARS.

SECONDLY, IN TERMS OF THE LONGER CONTRACT, I THINK IT'S WORTH CONSIDERATION, BUT THIS IS INTERGOVERNMENTAL ASPECT WITH THE COUNTY, THE CITY.

THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE STILL GOING ON ON WHAT THAT CONTRACT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR MOVING FORWARD.

I WOULD RATHER TAKE IT ONE STEP AT A TIME.

ALLOCATE 124,500, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN BETTER COMMUNICATIONS IN ADDRESSING ANY CONCERNS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A FIVE-YEAR ADDITIONAL CONTRACT.

THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON IT, BUT HAPPY TO HEAR FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, AND I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS THE GRATITUDE THAT I THINK YOU FEEL THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING, AS WELL AS THE OTHER ANIMAL SHELTERING SERVICES AND R CATS SANCTUARY

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PART OF THE CONSIDERATION THAT I THINK WE'RE ALL TAKING TONIGHT IS ENSURING THAT AS WE'RE PUTTING FORTH FUNDS IN THIS PARTNERSHIP, WE ARE BEING REALLY GOOD STEWARDS OF BOTH COMMUNITY FUNDS AND ENSURING THAT THOSE NEEDS ARE BEING MET.

IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE MOVING FORWARD AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO REALLY MAKE SURE I TOOK THE TIME TO EXPRESS THAT GRATITUDE FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND HOPING TO SEE MORE SUPPORT FOR IT GOING FORWARD AND MORE SUPPORT FOR THOSE DIFFERENT NEEDS THAT WERE BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT AS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE SHARED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU. I TOO, WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR COMMUNITY.

THE TWO EVACUATIONS YOU'VE HAD RECENTLY AND HOW YOU HAVE MOVED THROUGH THAT IS JUST PHENOMENAL.

IF I COULD HELP ADOPT EVERY DOG AND CAT FOR YOU, I WOULD.

[LAUGHTER] YOU HAVE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, I SEE HOW HARD YOU ALL WORK AND IT'S NOTICED, SO THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THE PROPOSED ONETIME INCREASE IN THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

I DO BELIEVE THAT HAVING A CITY STAFF PERSON ON YOUR BOARD WOULD HELP FURTHER THE COMMUNICATION SO THAT WE'RE NOT AT THIS POINT, WE CAN PLAN BETTER FOR NEXT TIME.

I SEE OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS A LOT IN THIS AREA AND FROM YOU AND FROM OTHERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO TACKLE THAT, BUT IN A METHODICAL AND PRECISE WAY.

I THINK GETTING SOMEONE ON YOUR BOARD WOULD MAYBE START THAT CONVERSATION GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOU DO AND THAT'S IT.

>> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. COUNCILMAN SHIMONI.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. I THINK COUNCIL AZTLAN WAS AHEAD OF ME.

>> YEAH. IF YOU COULD USE THE CAESAR CUES, IT HELPS ME ORDER IT A LITTLE BETTER, BUT COUNCILMEMBER AZTAN.

>> EITHER WAY IS FINE. I APPRECIATE THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBERS SHIMONI.

I JUST WANTED TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT WAS JUST SAID.

HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE DOES HAVE MY SUPPORT.

YOU ALSO HAVE MY PERSONAL DOLLAR AND I HAVE MANY OF YOUR ANIMALS IN MY HOME.

THAT PARTNERSHIP IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I HIGHLY VALUE AND I THINK THE SERVICE YOU PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY IS INVALUABLE AND QUITE NECESSARY.

[NOISE] I DO WANT TO JUST REITERATE THAT I SHARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE PRESENTED THIS EVENING FROM THE COMMUNITY.

I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOME BETTER SOLUTIONS TO THIS.

REALLY GETTING AT THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM OF WHY WE'RE HAVING STRAY ANIMALS IN OUR COMMUNITY IS ELEMENTAL TO THE LONG-TERM SUCCESS OF THESE EFFORTS AND TO MITIGATING THE INCREDIBLE BURDEN THAT YOU'RE FEELING.

THESE SPAY NEUTER CLINICS NEED TO HAPPEN.

THEY NEED TO BE ACCESSIBLE, I HAD TO DRIVE TO PHOENIX BEFORE TO NEUTER A CAT.

IT'S JUST SO COST-PROHIBITIVE AND IT IS ONE OF THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL THINGS WE CAN DO TO COMBAT UNWANTED STRAY ANIMALS IN THE COMMUNITY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THERE SHOULD BE A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF ANY STRATEGY.

I ALSO THINK IT'S LOW-HANGING FRUIT HERE TO INVITE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF ONTO THE HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE BOARD.

I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT MOVING FORWARD.

I WILL SAY THAT MY SUPPORT TODAY FOR THE ONETIME FUNDING IS A DEFINITE THUMBS UP.

BUT CONTINUED SUPPORT IS CONTINGENT UPON I CONTRIBUTED HUMAN'S ABILITY TO ANSWER TO THAT REQUEST.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING MOVING FORWARD TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE CITY ON THAT BOARD JUST TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ONGOING CONCERNS AND PROVIDE THE PERSPECTIVE AND BASICALLY THE REPRESENTATION FROM TAX DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING ASKED FOR AND UTILIZED.

IN SHORT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR THESE ANIMALS.

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I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME CRITICAL NEEDS THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED FOR.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP AND THE CONTINUED BRAINSTORMING AND RESOURCE AND INFORMATION SHARING AND HORIZONTAL WISDOM SHARING THAT COULD BE GAINED THROUGH BOARD MEMBERSHIP AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT OCCUR. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER AZTAN. COUNCIL SHIMONI.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND HI, EVERYBODY.

BIG THANK YOU TO THE TEAM AT HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING AND BEING WITH THOSE [INAUDIBLE].

THIS ONE REALLY LOW HANGING FRUIT THINGS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MENTIONED THAT I'M GOING TO ECHO IN REGARDS TO BOARD MEMBERSHIP, I THINK COMMUNICATION IS SO CRITICAL FOR OUR PARTNERSHIP MOVING FORWARD.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE EASY WAY TO GET THAT JUMP-STARTED.

I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE TEAM AT THE ARC CAT SANCTUARY AND THOSE WHO EMAILED AND SPOKE UP SOME NIGHTS.

WE NEED TO HEAR FROM YOUR EXPERIENCES AND WE NEED TO HEAR ABOUT THE STRUGGLES AND THAT'S PART OF COMMUNICATION AS WELL.

DO I THINK THAT THAT JUSTIFIES US NOT SUPPORTING HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE? I DON'T.

I THINK WE SHOULD SUPPORT HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE WITH THIS ONETIME FUNDING THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO START WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THESE HURDLES AND STRUGGLES THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS WRESTLING WITH ON THESE TOPICS.

I KNOW DROP-OFFS AND PICKUPS ARE A BIG POINT OF NEED AND ISSUE.

I'LL KEEP IT SHORT AND JUST SAY I SUPPORT THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT THROUGH INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE POOR ANIMALS SHELTERING SERVICES.

I LOOK FORWARD TO BETTER COMMUNICATION MOVING FORWARD AND BETTER COLLABORATION IN ADDRESSING THE SOLUTIONS.

WE REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS SOLUTIONS HERE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI.

WITH THAT, IS THAT SUFFICIENT DIRECTION AT THIS POINT FOR STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD OR IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED FROM US?

>> I BELIEVE WE HAVE SUFFICIENT DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU WILTON. YES, YOU MAY.

>> SORRY. BUT ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT HAVING A LIAISON, WHETHER IT'S STAFF OR A BOARD MEMBER, I THINK RIGHT ON WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLY ON.

I THINK AS WE WERE BUILDING THE BOARD AND CREATING THE SHELTER, IT MAY HAVE GOTTEN LOST THIS LAST YEAR IS CERTAINLY POINTED OUT HOW MUCH WE NEED THAT.

JUST APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.

I THINK I CAN SPEAK SAFELY FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT WE DEFINITELY ARE OPEN TO THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO REASSURE YOU BECAUSE WE SEE COMMUNICATION CHALLENGES AS WELL.

A GOOD THINK TANK IS ALWAYS A BETTER SOLUTION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON IN OUR AGENDA TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10,

[10. Butler and Beaver Pilot Bike Program Updates Staff will present a summary of the Butler and Beaver Pilot Separated Bike Lanes Project report. Transportation has presented this report to the, Bicycle Advisory Committee and the Transportation Commission and have summarized that input. ]

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

JEFF BOWMAN, CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER, AND ACTING CITY ENGINEER.

THIS EVENING HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SEPARATED BIKE LANES AND OUR BUTLER AND BEAVER PILOT BIKE LANE PROGRAMS. [LAUGHTER] HERE WITH ME TONIGHT ARE SAND BECKETT FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND MARTIN LAWRENCE FROM TRANSPORTATION TO A TAG TEAM PRESENTATION.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER TONIGHT, THIS PRESENTATION IS ESSENTIALLY A SUMMARY OF THE PROJECT REPORT THAT MY TEAM PUT TOGETHER OVER THE LAST WEEKS.

I'LL JUST JUMP RIGHT IN.

YOU'LL REMEMBER WE RECEIVED A CITIZEN'S PETITION LAST SUMMER.

IN RESPONSE TO THAT CITIZEN'S PETITION, THE PETITION ASKED FOR SEVERAL DIFFERENT BIKE RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.

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THAT DIRECTION CAME IN JULY OF 21.

THE DIRECTION WAS LET'S GET THESE INSTALLED BEFORE THE SNOW FLIES, SO WE JUST HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

JULY 21, WE GOT DIRECTION AND WE IMMEDIATELY JUMPED IN A TWO-PRONGED APPROACH.

ONE WAS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THIS DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED IN TIME? WHAT TYPES OF DATA COLLECTION, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESSFUL PILOT WHERE WE LEARN A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM BEFORE AND AFTER STUDIES.

A LOT OF WORK, RIGHT, IMMEDIATELY JUMPED IN.

HERE'S WHAT WE DECIDED FOR THE PILOT PROGRAM.

AS I ALREADY MENTIONED, THERE'S TWO PHASES, BUTLER AND BEAVER.

I CAN HEAR NOW. THE PILOT PROGRAM AGAIN IS TWO PHASES, BUTLER AND BEAVER.

HERE'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DECIDED WERE IMPORTANT TO COLLECT BEFORE AND AFTER THESE SEPARATED BIKE FACILITIES WERE INSTALLED.

WE COLLECTED SPEED AND VOLUME DATA, MOSTLY ON BUTLER, BUT WE DID COLLECT SOME DATA ON BEAVER STREET AS WELL.

WE REALIZED WE NEEDED TO COLLECT STAKEHOLDER INPUT AND PUBLIC INPUT.

WE DID A COMMUNITY SURVEY AFTER AND WE'VE BEEN REACHING OUT TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND THE BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS PART OF THE STUDY OR AS PART OF THE PILOT PROGRAM OVER THE WINTER.

JUST IN GENERAL, WE KNEW SNOWSTORMS WOULD BE AN ISSUE OR IT COULD BE AN ISSUE.

WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT THAT SNOW EXPERIENCE WAS AND THEN JUST WHAT GENERAL MAINTENANCE WOULD LOOK LIKE.

WE WANT TO REVIEW CRASHES TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T CREATE ANYTHING THAT WAS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING OUT THERE TODAY ON THOSE STREETS.

THEN FINALLY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY, IS WE WANTED TO DETERMINE OTHER POSSIBLE PHASES OF THE PROGRAM AND NEXT STEPS.

WITH THAT, I TURN IT OVER TO MARTIN FOR A SLIDE OR TWO.

>> YOUR HONOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MARTIN ENDS, MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNER.

[NOISE] SEPARATED BIKE LANES IN DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS HAVE BEEN USED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES FOR ABOUT 10 OR 15 YEARS NOW.

WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A GOOD BODY OF STUDIES AND DATA COMING BACK FROM THOSE EFFORTS TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF HOW THEY WORK AND WHAT WORKS WELL AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK AS WELL.

I'LL JUST HIT A COUPLE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT THAT INFORMATION SHOWS.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, THERE'S MORE DETAIL IN THE REPORT ITSELF INCLUDING SOME OF THE REFERENCES TO THE STUDIES THAT ALL I'LL JUST TOUCH ON.

WE INCLUDE THIS SLIDE AND INCLUDE THIS INFORMATION IN THE REPORT AND IN THIS PRESENTATION TO REMIND US OF WHY WE UNDERTOOK THE PROJECT ON BEAVER AND BUTLER IN THE FIRST PLACE.

EXPERIENCE FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT SEPARATED BIKE LANES ARE PROVIDED INCLUDE MAKING BICYCLING COMFORTABLE FOR MORE PEOPLE.

WE KNOW THAT THE INTERESTED BUT CONCERNS SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION, FOR EXAMPLE, FINDS A LITTLE BIT OF SEPARATION FROM TRAFFIC TO BE MUCH MORE APPEALING AND COMFORTABLE AS POTENTIAL AS A CYCLIST OR WOULD BE CYCLISTS.

IN FACT, IN A NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES WHERE SEPARATED FACILITIES HAVE BEEN INSTALLED, THEY'VE SEEN A CORRESPONDING INCREASE IN RIDERSHIP AMONG BICYCLISTS.

SECOND, SEPARATED LANES CAN BENEFIT ALL ROADWAY USERS.

THEIR SAFETY DATA HERE THAT SUGGESTS THAT THERE MAY BE A REDUCTION IN CRASHES OF ALL TYPES ON STREETS WHERE THERE ARE SEPARATED BIKE LANES.

IN SOME CASES DRIVERS HAVE SHOWN A PREFERENCE OR A HIGHER COMFORT LEVEL WHERE THERE ARE SEPARATED FACILITIES BECAUSE AGAIN, IT PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT OF PHYSICAL SEPARATION AND DISTANCE FROM BICYCLIST, SO THAT COMFORT WORKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT SEPARATION.

THIRD, WE KNOW THAT SEPARATED BIKE LANES ARE PREFERRED BY BICYCLISTS AND WE HAVE SURVEY EVIDENCE FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS EVIDENCE FROM OUR OWN SURVEY.

THAT SHOWS THAT, AGAIN, BICYCLISTS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WOULD BE BICYCLISTS PREFER TO HAVE SOME SEPARATION FROM TRAFFIC.

GENERALLY, THE MORE, THE BETTER, BUT EVEN A SMALL AMOUNT IS BENEFICIAL.

SEPARATED BIKE LANES ARE PART OF AN OVERALL LOW STRESS BIKEWAYS NETWORK FOR FLAGSTAFF, AND HERE THE IMPORTANT WORD IS NETWORK.

WE'RE PLANNING THIS AT CITYWIDE OR SYSTEM OR CORRIDOR LEVEL RATHER THAN JUST FOCUSING ON INDIVIDUAL STREETS OR ROADWAY SEGMENTS.

THEN FINALLY, WE KNOW THAT HAVING A ROBUST BIKEWAYS NETWORK HELPS FLAGSTAFF SUPPORT SOME OF OUR OTHER COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES.

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THIS SLIDE IS INTENDED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT ON WHERE THE PILOT PROJECTS ON BEAVER AND BUTLER FIT INTO OUR LARGER DRAFT PLAN FOR BIKEWAYS AND OVERALL BIKEWAYS PLAN FOR FLAGSTAFF.

THAT PLAN HAS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FEATURES.

FIRST OF ALL, IT'S INTENDED TO BE LOW STRESS.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE WANT IT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE FOR BICYCLISTS OF ALL VARIETIES AND STRIPES, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR ABILITY OR EXPERIENCE OR COMFORT LEVEL IS, WE WANT YOU TO FEEL COMFORTABLE NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE RIDING.

SECOND, IT'S INTENDED TO BE COMPREHENSIVE AND COMPLETE.

WE WANT TO COVER ALL PARTS OF TOWN.

WE WANT TO GIVE ACCESS TO ALL DESTINATIONS IN FLAGSTAFF AND ALL NEIGHBORHOODS.

THIRD, IT'S ORGANIZED INTO A HIERARCHY.

WE HAVE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY ROUTES THAT FORM THE BACKBONE SYSTEM.

IN FACT, ON THAT MAP ON THIS SLIDE, THE PURPLE AND THE DARK BLUE FORM THAT BACKBONE SYSTEM OF PRIMARY AND SECONDARY ROUTES.

FORTH, OUR BIKEWAYS NETWORK IS COMPRISED OF A VARIETY OF FACILITIES, AND THESE CAN VARY IN HOW MUCH SEPARATION OR HOW THEY'RE CONFIGURED ON THE ROADWAY.

IN SOME CASES WHERE STREETS ARE LOW VOLUME AND LOW SPEED, WE CAN USE SHARED FACILITIES AND THIS MIGHT INCLUDE BIKE BOULEVARDS OR BIKE ROUTES.

IT ALSO INCLUDES SHARED LANE MARKINGS THAT WE'VE USED IN A FEW PLACES AROUND TOWN.

WE CONSIDER DEDICATED FACILITIES LIKE BIKE LANES ARE BUFFERED BIKE LANES WHERE BICYCLES TO HAVE THEIR OWN SPACE IN THE STREET, BUT THERE'S STILL APPROXIMATE TO TRAFFIC.

THEN FINALLY, OF COURSE, WE THINK ABOUT SEPARATED FACILITIES WHICH CAN INCLUDE SEPARATED BIKE LANES, AGAIN IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS, AS WELL AS THINGS CALLED CYCLE TRACKS.

THEN OUR OLD STANDBY FOOTS TRAILS, WHICH EXIST IN A LOT OF PLACES ALONG MAJOR STREETS.

THE LAST FEATURE IS THIS CONCEPT OF A TRANSITION FROM BASIC TO ENHANCED FACILITIES.

WE WANTED TO GET SOMETHING IN PLACE IN THE SHORT TERM, EVEN IF THAT SOMETHING ISN'T NECESSARILY THE ULTIMATE OR IDEAL LONG-TERM FACILITY.

THEN AS WE MOVE ALONG, THE CITY CAN WORK INTO MORE ADVANCED FACILITIES AS WE GET FUNDING AND EXPERIENCE AND KNOW-HOW AND THAT THING.

TO GO FROM BASIC TO ENHANCED.

ALONG THOSE LINES, ONE OF THE CONCEPTS WAS GOING FROM AN IDEA OF HAVING BUFFERED BIKE LANES WHERE THE SIMPLY THE STRIPE IS A LITTLE BIT WIDER AND PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT OF HORIZONTAL SEPARATION FROM TRAFFIC.

STARTING WITH THAT, BUT TRANSITIONING INTO SOME FORM OF SEPARATED FACILITY.

THE PILOT PROGRAM ON BUTLER AND BEAVER GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TEST DRIVE THAT CONCEPT AND SEE WHAT WORKED AND WHAT DIDN'T WORK FOR THAT GOING FROM BUFFERED TO ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY SEPARATED BY SOME TYPE OF CURB OR RAILING OR DELINEATED.

WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO JEFF.

>> THANK YOU, MARTIN. I STARTED TO JUMP INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT.

WE RECEIVED COUNCIL DIRECTION IN JULY AND JUMPED INTO DESIGN TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT, THE PILOT TESTS, WHICH I TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.

THEN ALSO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS DESIGN AND GET THIS INSTALLED IN SUCH A SHORT TIMEFRAME BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH, YOU'VE SEEN HOW OUR NORMAL PROCESS WORKS AND IT'S THE RIGHT PROCESS, BUT IT'S JUST A LONG PROCESS.

WE ENDED UP JUST JUMPING INTO THIS AND WE HAD TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS OUT AND MEASURING STREETS AND DOING THE DESIGN INTERNALLY, WHICH SAVED QUITE A BIT OF CALENDAR TIME.

IT TOOK A LOT OF STAFF TIME, BUT IT SAVED A LOT OF CALENDAR TIME.

THEN WE WORKED WITH THE PROCUREMENT FOLKS AND WE WERE ABLE TO USE THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING METHODS.

THAT'S THE JOCK METHOD YOU HEAR SOMETIMES, MUCH, MUCH QUICKER PROCESS.

WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THESE FACILITIES, BOTH BEAVER AND BUTLER INSTALLED BY NOVEMBER.

WE HAD TO TAKE ONE SHORTCUT AND THAT WAS THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS.

ALL OF THE GREEN PAVEMENT MARKINGS COULDN'T BE INSTALLED WITH THEIR TYPICAL THERMOPLASTIC OR EPOXY BECAUSE OF THE TEMPERATURES AND BECAUSE OF TIMING, THE CONTRACTOR JUST COULDN'T GET THEM IN QUICKLY ENOUGH.

THEY WERE PAINTED, AND YOU'LL NOTICE TODAY THAT THE PAINT IS ALMOST COMPLETELY GONE IN MANY LOCATIONS AND THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE REPLACED.

I THINK IT MAY BE NEXT WEEK IF IT'S NOT NEXT WEEK, IT'S THE WEEK AFTER.

WE'RE REALLY CLOSE TO GETTING THOSE REFRESHED.

THOSE PAVEMENT MARKINGS ARE GOOD PAVEMENT MARKINGS AND APPROPRIATE WHETHER WE CONTINUE WITH THIS PILOT PROGRAM OR DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE GOOD MARKETING.

THIS PICTURE JUST HIGHLIGHTS A LITTLE BIT OF THE THINGS THAT WE INSTALLED IN ADDITION TO THE RAISED CURB AND THE RAISED DELINEATORS.

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BECAUSE NOW WHEN YOU'RE RIDING AS A CYCLIST, YOU DON'T HAVE THE BREAKS.

YOU CAN'T LOOK FOR BREAKS AND TRAFFIC TO MERGE ACROSS THE TURN LEFT AS A VEHICLE WOULD.

WHEN YOU'RE IN THE CURB LANE, YOU'RE TYPICALLY GETTING STUCK BEHIND THE CURBS, AND SO THE TWO-STAGE OF LEFT TURN ALLOWS YOU TO MOVE OUT INTO THE INTERSECTION, TURN YOUR BIKE 90 DEGREES, AND THEN GO STRAIGHT AGAIN, WHICH IS A LEFT TURN.

THAT'S THE TWO-STAGE LEFT.

I THINK I COVERED ALL OF THAT SLIDE.

HERE'S SOME PICTURES OF BEFORE AND AFTER.

I THINK MOST PEOPLE HAVE SEEN WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, BUT ON THE LEFT IS BUTLER AVENUE BEFORE CONDITIONING THE TOP AND BUTLER AFTER.

HARD TO TELL THAT THE LANES CHANGE BUT THE LANES DID SHIFT OVER IF YOU WERE IN TOWN WHEN WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED THE PROJECT, WE OBLITERATED ALL THE STRIPING ON BUTLER AND THEN RE-STRIPED AND EVERYTHING MOVED OVER A LITTLE BIT TO CREATE A LITTLE MORE SPACE FOR THE BIKE LANE AND FOR THAT SEPARATED FACILITY.

IN THE MIDDLE YOU CAN SEE IN THE FIELD THOSE ARE PRETTY FRESH PICTURES BECAUSE THAT TWO-STAGE LEFT TURN BOX LOOKS REALLY GOOD.

THE BIKE LANE EXTENSION AS WELL.

THEN THE FINAL IMAGE IS JUST UP BY THE HOSPITAL.

NOTHING TOO SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THIS LOCATION, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT FACILITIES IN PLACE THERE.

GETTING INTO SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE COLLECTED FOR THE PILOT PROGRAM AND THIS SLIDE IN PARTICULAR IS FOR BUTLER AVENUE.

WE COLLECTED SPEEDS ON BUTLER BECAUSE WE WERE INTERESTED IN IF THIS NEW BIKE FACILITY AND THE CHANGING LANE WAYS WAS GOING TO CHANGE OPERATING SPEEDS AND YOU CAN SEE ESSENTIALLY UNCHANGED 34, 35, 36, 35, SO VIRTUALLY THE SAME.

THAT'S WESTBOUND THE TOP LINE AND EASTBOUND THE BOTTOM LINE.

THE NEXT THING, THE OTHER BUTLER AVENUE IS THE BICYCLE VOLUMES.

AGAIN, THESE WERE COLLECTED IN OCTOBER, WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD CYCLING SEASON.

APRIL IS PROBABLY NOT QUITE AS GOOD, BUT IT MET OUR SCHEDULE AND IT'S STILL, OBVIOUSLY THE SNOW'S GONE, IT'S DECENT BUT TENDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT WINDY OR SO.

YOU CAN SEE BICYCLE.

WE HAD HOPED THIS WAS ONE OF THE PILOT ASSUMPTIONS GOING IN IS THAT WE WOULD SEE AN INCREASE IN RIDERSHIP FROM BICYCLES.

IF WE CHECKED AGAIN IN OCTOBER, WE MAY SEE YEAR-TO-YEAR WITH EXACT CONDITIONS, BUT YOU CAN SEE IN APRIL WE DIDN'T REALLY SEE AN INCREASE ON BUTLER AVENUE.

THE FIRST TWO LINES ARE 12 HOURS, SO THE WAY WE COLLECTED THIS DATA IS WE SET OUT, WE HAVE A GOPRO ON A STICK AND WE HIDE IT OUT THERE.

WATCH FOR 12 HOURS.

THEN WE HAVE AN INTERN RUN THROUGH THOSE TO COLLECT ALL OF THE BICYCLE COUNTS.

WE'VE RECENTLY BOUGHT SOME NEW EQUIPMENT SO THAT WE CAN DO THESE COUNTS AUTOMATICALLY WITH ROAD TUBES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY MADE FOR BICYCLES.

WE'VE RECOUNTED BEAVER STREET, AND I'LL MENTION THAT WHEN I GET TO THAT SLIDE, BUT WE'VE RECOUNTED BEAVER STREET WITH SOME BETTER EQUIPMENT.

THAT IS ONE OF THE LIMITATIONS OF THESE BICYCLE COUNTS IS IT'S ONLY ONE DAY.

VEHICLE COUNTS, WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO HAVE OUT FOR A FULL WEEK TO SEE THAT DAILY VARIATION, SMOOTH DATA BIT.

WHILE WE DO SEE A DECREASE HERE, I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED.

I DON T THINK THAT THE BICYCLE FACILITIES ON BUTLER DECREASED BICYCLE RIDERSHIP.

HERE'S WHAT WE COLLECTED ON BEAVER STREET.

I THINK I MIGHT HAVE JUST HAD BEAVER STREET ON OUR LAST SLIDE, BUT THAT WAS BUTLER, OF COURSE.

HERE'S WHAT WE COLLECTED ON BEAVER STREET, OUR BEFORE AND AFTER YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD 77 BICYCLES OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY.

THE AFTER CONDITION WAS 83 IN APRIL, AS I MENTIONED, WE BOUGHT SOME NEW EQUIPMENT AND COLLECTED THESE COUNTS LAST WEEK, WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD WEATHER.

WE SAW 78 ON AVERAGE, SO PRETTY CONSISTENT ON BEAVER STREET.

NO BIG INCREASE OR DECREASE IN BIKE PARTICIPATION.

WE ALSO WANTED TO CHECK CRASHES TYPICALLY FOR ANY PROJECT WE'D WANT TO SEE THREE YEARS OF CRASH DATA.

BUT OF COURSE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT THREE YEARS TO TAKE A LOOK AT CRASHES.

HERE'S NOVEMBER TO MAY.

THESE ARE NOT FULL-YEAR PERIODS BUT THE NOVEMBER TO MAY, LIKE TO LIKE, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT YEARS HERE.

BEAVER STREET, THAT AVERAGE WAS ABOUT, I BELIEVE THE AVERAGE WAS ABOUT EIGHT, AND WE SAW A 10 IN THIS MOST RECENT PERIOD.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE FLUCTUATION, SO THAT'S REALLY NOT CONCERNING.

THE BUTLER AVENUE SECTION, THE AVERAGE WAS 30, IT WAS 29.9.

WE DIDN'T SEE A BIG CHANGE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MAJOR CRASHES ON THESE FACILITIES, NO MAJOR INJURIES OR FATALITIES.

AT THIS POINT AGAIN, IT'S ONLY SIX MONTHS, IT'S NOT THE THREE YEARS WE TYPICALLY WATCH, BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING ANYTHING REALLY GOOD OR BAD AT THIS POINT.

STATUS QUO IS OKAY IN THIS CASE.

THE NEXT PART OF THE REPORT IS WE COLLECTED

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I'M GOING TO LET SAM DO THESE SLIDES BECAUSE THESE ARE THE STREETS SLIDES, AND THEN I'LL GET BACK UP AND TELL YOU WHAT WE LEARNED FROM OTHERS.

[NOISE]

>> I APOLOGIZE, I MISPLACED MY VOICE ON SATURDAY, SO I'M GOING TO USE THIS ONE TONIGHT.

BUT IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE, AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THESE.

WHILE WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF NEUTRAL DATA COMING OUT OF IT SO FAR, I WANT TO BRING UP SOME OF THE IMPACTFUL OPERATIONAL DATA AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THE WORD IMPACTFUL, WHETHER THAT'S GOOD OR BAD, I'LL LET YOU DECIDE THAT.

FOR US, THERE WAS A LOT OF GREAT LEARNING MOMENTS, WE DIDN'T REALIZE THIS STUFF AS WE GOT INTO THIS.

IT WAS REALLY GOOD FOR US TO GET OUT OF THE BOX, SEE HOW WE COULD TRANSITION TO SUPPORT SOMETHING NEW AND WHAT WE TRULY NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AS WE LOOK THROUGH THIS, THIS WAS SIX MONTHS OF DATA.

OUR OVERALL COST WAS ABOUT $66,000.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT PUT US RIGHT AROUND THAT $10,000 A MONTH.

THAT DID INCLUDE SOME SNOW DATA IN THERE AND STREET SWEEPING.

WE DID PURCHASE TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR APPROVING BACK IN JANUARY.

THAT HAS SINCE BEEN DELAYED, WE STILL HAVEN'T SEEN THAT EQUIPMENT.

IT WOULD BE THE ONLY EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE THAT WOULD BE DESIGNED TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'VE BEEN MAKING DUE, WE HAD TO CUT SOME WHEELS DOWN, MAKE THEM A LITTLE SKINNIER ON SOME EQUIPMENT, BUT WE GOT IT IN THERE AND WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE PIECES OF IT.

BUT AGAIN, IT WAS JUST IMPACTFUL ON THE OPERATIONS AS YOU START COUNTING ALL OF THE HOURS PUT INTO THIS AND ALL OF THE DOLLARS PUT INTO IT IN JUST SIX MONTHS.

IT WAS IMPRESSIVE TO SEE ONCE WE PULLED THAT DATA OUT OF OUR SYSTEM.

WE DO USE A SYSTEM CALLED CARTOGRAPH, WE USE IT FOR ALL OF OUR MAINTENANCE PROJECTS IN THE CITY.

WE CAN KEEP TRACK OF THOSE OPERATIONS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE FROM YEAR-TO-YEAR, WHERE WE CAN ENHANCE OUR PROGRAMS, AND WHERE WE'RE FALLING SHORT.

HERE YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE ITEMS HERE.

ONE OF THE KEY ONES, FIRST ONE THERE IS 609 LABOR HOURS IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS, THAT'S 100 HOURS A MONTH.

UNFORTUNATELY, NOT QUITE UP TO THE PAR WE'D LIKE TO SEE.

WHAT YOU'LL FIND WITH MOST OF THE OPERATION STAFF, AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU GOT TO DO RIDE ALONG THIS WINTER AND THAT'S AWESOME, THEY ARE VERY PRIDEFUL IN WHAT THEY DO.

EVERYTHING THEY LEAVE BEHIND, THEIR GOAL IS TO LEAVE IT BETTER THAN WHAT THEY STARTED WITH.

IT'S A COMPETITION BETWEEN THEM TO SEE WHO CAN DO A BETTER JOB.

UNFORTUNATELY, AT A 100 HOURS A MONTH, THERE IS SOME DISAPPOINTMENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE IT UP TO.

MAYBE A BEAUTIFICATION STANDARD, WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT TOO.

REALLY WE'RE IN A STANDPOINT OR A STANDOFF THERE WHERE THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT MORE WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT TO SUPPORT THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE JUST NOT QUITE GETTING THERE WHERE WE WANT TO, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO ENHANCE THAT.

IN THOSE SIX MONTHS, 609 DELINEATORS WERE MAINTAINED.

WHAT WE SAW AND WHAT MANY OF YOU PROBABLY SAW IS MOST OF THE DELINEATORS, THE FIRST ONES WE PUT IN WOULD NOT WITHSTAND AN IMPACT DURING COLD WEATHER.

THEY WOULD SHATTER, THEY WOULD BEND OVER, THEY WOULD NEVER COME BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL STATE, SO WE HAD TO GO IN AND REMOVE THEM.

WHAT WE FOUND IS IF WE JUST TOOK THE DELINEATOR OFF, WHICH WAS BROKEN OR LAYING THERE, WE HAD TO GO IN AND ACTUALLY REMOVE THE BASE FROM THE CURB, OTHERWISE IT LEFT A SHARP OBJECT BEHIND.

WE HAD TO GO THROUGH AND REMOVE EACH ONE.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN WORKING ON THESE CURBS, YOU HAVE TO SET UP A LANE SHIFT JUST BECAUSE IT IS UNSAFE TO HAVE ANYBODY WORKING RIGHT THERE OFF THE EDGE OF THE ROAD, BACK TO TRAFFIC TRYING TO GET THIS DONE.

IT DOES ADD A BIGGER OPERATIONAL ASK WHEN YOU GO OUT JUST TO REMOVE A DELINEATOR.

THE 73 DELINEATORS WERE REPLACED AND 151 DELINEATORS AS WERE ADDED.

THE IMPORTANT PIECE ON THAT WAS WORKING WITH JEFF, WE WERE ABLE TO FIND A MORE RESILIENT DELINEATOR THAT COULD TAKE AN IMPACT.

THEY WEREN'T SEEING THE SAME SHATTERING OUT OF THEM, THEY WOULD BOUNCE BACK.

THEY WERE RECOVERING A LOT BETTER IN OUR UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT HERE.

THOSE HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH.

BIG ONES HERE ARE THE 38 CURBS DAMAGED.

WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF IMPACTS ON THESE CURBS.

I WAS ACTUALLY ASKED BY THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION WHY WE HAVEN'T REPAINTED THEM, AND WHY WE PUT CURBS IN THAT WEREN'T PAINTED.

UNFORTUNATELY, I HAD TO INFORM THEM THAT ALL THE CURBS ARE PAINTED, MANY OF THEM RECEIVED SO MANY IMPACTS THAT THEY DON'T LOOK PAINTED ANYMORE.

WITH THE SINTER DUST, WHICH HAS NOW CHANGED THE SHADING OF THOSE, IT'S JUST CHANGED THE DYNAMIC A LITTLE BIT.

ONE OF THOSE IMPACTFUL PIECES THAT WE'RE LEARNING AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ENHANCE THAT.

NEVER THOUGHT WE'D BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WASH CURBS TO MAKE THEM MORE VISIBLE, BUT IT'S AN IMPACTFUL PIECE.

TWENTY-FOUR CURBS WERE DESTROYED.

WE DID SEE MOST OF THOSE HAPPEN IN THE WINTERTIME.

IMPORTANTLY, TO NOTE, THIS WAS ONE OF OUR LIGHTER WINTERS ON RECORD.

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WE'VE ONLY REPLACED TWO CURBS TO THIS POINT BECAUSE IT IS STILL UNDER CONTRACT AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT CONTRACTOR TO GET BACK IN THERE AND HELP US SUPPORT THE RE-INSTALL OF THOSE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.

>> IT'S IN THAT SLIDE. THANK YOU, SAM, MR. BECKET FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

ZOOMING INTO THE SCREENSHOT OF THAT WORK ORDER, THE LAST COLUMN SAYS OTHER 7,395, IS THAT COST? IS THAT A MONTH PLUG INTO YOUR TOTAL COST?

>> IT DOES.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN SUPPLIES AND OTHER MATERIALS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THIS.

SOME OF THOSE WERE OUR SHOP COST.

WHAT WE FOUND IS WHEN CURBING GOT DESTROYED AND IT WOUND UP IN THE BIKE LANE, THE SNOW MACHINE DID NOT REALIZE IT WAS IN THE BIKE LANE AND IT SUCKED IT INTO THE SNOWBLOWER.

BEING THAT WE ONLY HAD ONE SNOWBLOWER FOR THAT, IT WAS ALMOST CATASTROPHIC FOR THAT.

SOME OF THOSE COSTS WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE IMPACTFUL PICTURES IF YOU WILL.

GOING INTO THIS, FEW OF THE AREAS HAVE BEEN MORE HIGHLY CONCENTRATED FOR IMPACTS.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT THERE, THAT IS ONE OF THE DELINEATORS, THE ORIGINAL STYLE THAT DOES NOT DO WELL WITH IMPACTS.

WHAT WE ASSUME MOST OF THESE WAS POTENTIALLY MIRRORS.

WHILE THE CURB DOES GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BUFFER FOR THE TIRE DEPENDING ON THE VEHICLE, THE MIRRORS DO STICK OUT A LOT FURTHER.

OUR ASSUMPTION WAS THAT.

AFTER THAT, THE CURBING HERE FOR MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE, HAVE JUST BEEN VEHICLE IMPACTS.

THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE WAS AN ENHANCEMENT PIECE THAT WAS ATTEMPTED BETWEEN OUR SIGNS AND MARKINGS GROUP AND GEOFF BELLMAN TO TRY AND ENHANCE VISIBILITY.

HOWEVER, AFTER A FEW IMPACTS, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S ALMOST A DIAMOND-LOOKING TAPE ON THERE.

THAT TAPE WAS A REFLECTIVE TAPE TO TRY AND ENHANCE VISIBILITY, IT DID WORK FOR A SHORT PERIOD.

NOTED ISSUES. ONE WE TALKED ABOUT IT WAS THE ORIGINAL DELINEATORS.

THEY DID NOT HOLD UP AS WELL AS WE THOUGHT THEY WOULD, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE PILOT, SO WE FOUND A BETTER OPTION AND WE GOT THEM HERE, AND SO FAR SO GOOD.

TOP PICTURE, TOP-LEFT IS THE ORIGINAL.

TOP-RIGHT IS THE NEW PLATFORM WE WENT TO.

THE TOP-LEFT IS HERE.

TOP-LEFT IS NOT ONE OF OURS, IT WAS JUST A PICTURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND.

ONE OF THE OTHER NOTED ISSUES WAS NARROW LANES.

I KNOW MANY OF YOU GOT TO RIDE WITH OUR SNOW PLOW OPERATORS THIS PAST WINTER AND THAT'S FANTASTIC.

I HOPE THAT THAT GAVE EVERYONE A PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO BE IN A 10-WHEEL DUMP TRUCK OR A SIX-WHEEL TRUCK PLOWING SNOW.

BY NARROWING THESE ROADS, IN A PERFECT WORLD, IF THE TRUCK COULD RUN PERFECTLY PARALLEL WITH THE CURB WITHOUT TOUCHING IT, WITHIN AN INCH OR TWO, YOU COULD STAY IN YOUR LANE.

BUT IN A SNOW PLOW THAT'S ALMOST UNFEASIBLE.

AT BEST, YOU'RE GOING TO GET WITHIN THAT FOOT RANGE, WHICH PUT US A FOOT AT MINIMUM INTO THE OTHER LANE TO OUR LEFT.

FOR THE MOST PART, OUR SNOW PLOWS, ONE THAT'S PLOWING ONE PORTION OF THE ROAD WHICH WAS CENTERED BETWEEN THE TWO LANES.

BECAUSE AS THEY WERE PLOWING THE BIKE LANES, PART OF THIS PILOT WAS SHIFTING ALL THE SNOW TO THE CENTER OF THE ROAD.

WELL, FOR DRIVER'S SAFETY, WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SHIFTED FAR ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE WEREN'T TRYING TO PASS WHILE WE WERE PUSHING SNOW INTO THAT LANE.

IT WAS AN IMPACTFUL DYNAMIC.

IT WAS A NEW PROCESS FOR SNOW PLOW OPERATIONS, ESPECIALLY ON A ROAD THAT I THINK I WAS LOOKING AT THE DATA AS HE WAS PULLING IT, IT HAD ABOUT 22,000 CARS IN THAT SHORT WINDOW THAT HE WAS PULLING THERE IN A 12-HOUR WINDOW, 22,000 CARS TRAVELING ON THAT ONE ROAD.

WHEN YOU'RE SNOW PLOWING AND YOU'VE GOT THAT MANY CARS TRYING TO GET AROUND YOU, IT MADE FOR A UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR SNOW OPERATORS, AND HONESTLY A REDUCTION IN LANES AND SERVICE ON OUR PART.

FROM THERE, OPERATORS WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND TRY AND CLEAR THE SNOW ALL THE WAY TO THE CENTER OF THE ROAD.

MANY TIMES THAT WAS EASY ENOUGH WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE DIVIDED HIGHWAYS.

MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S THE DIVIDED PLANNER AREAS THERE.

IF REBECCA IS HERE, I HOPE SHE DOESN'T HATE US FOR SOME OF THE DAMAGE WE CAUSED, BUT SHIFTING THAT SNOW ALL THE WAY INTO THOSE MEDIANS WAS DIFFICULT IN SOME CASES, EASIER IN OTHERS.

THE EASY AREAS WERE OUR LEFT-HAND TURN LANES, WHICH WE ALMOST ELIMINATED DURING SNOW SEASON, SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT WAS WHERE WE STACKED THE SNOW.

ONE OF THE REALLY UNIQUE LEARNING MOMENTS OUT OF THAT WAS BECAUSE

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IT WOULD FALL DURING THE DAY, TURN INTO ICE AND CONTINUALLY FREEZE THAT ROAD BEYOND WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING TO SEE.

IT ACTUALLY CAUSED AN UPTAKE OF CINDER OPERATIONS WHERE WE WOUND UP PUTTING ALMOST DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF CINDERS ON THAT ROAD, WHICH THEN FED BACK TO US HAVING TO GO BACK AND PICK UP ALMOST TWICE AS MANY CINDERS WHICH MANY OF THEM AREN'T UP IN THE BIKE LANES, UNFORTUNATELY.

AGAIN, SNOW REMOVAL WAS JUST A BIG ONE FOR US, IT WAS A NEW DYNAMIC.

TO DO SNOW REMOVAL, I KNOW I'M HITTING ON THIS ONE A LOT, BUT IT WAS ONE OF THE MORE IMPACTFUL OPERATIONS FOR US.

WE ACTUALLY HAD TO REMOVE 2-3 DIFFERENT PEOPLE OFF OF THEIR STANDARD ROUTES TO SUPPORT THESE.

WHAT IT WOULD TAKE WOULD BE ONE ITEM ACTUALLY CLEARING THE SNOW OUT OF THE SEPARATED BIKE LANES.

WE HAD TO RETROFIT, WHAT WE CALL SKID STEER, A SMALL CART PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WITH THE SNOW BLOWER ON THE FRONT OF IT TO FIT WITHIN THE BIKE LANES.

FROM THERE, BECAUSE OF SAFETY REASONS, WE HAD TO BASICALLY PACE THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WITH A SNOW PLOW TO SHIFT THE SNOW OVER.

WELL, IN DOING THAT, IT MADE IT EASIER TO TIE IN ANOTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND TO JUST GO AHEAD AND CARRY EVERYTHING AND DO ONE FAIL SWOOP ALL THE WAY TO THE CENTER.

TO DO ALL OF THE BIKE LANES FROM THE TOP OF BEAVER, ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH BUTLER TO DO ONE PASS, IT WAS TAKING 3-3.5 HOURS.

IT WAS REMOVING THREE OPERATORS FROM PRIMARY SNOW ROUTES WITHIN THAT AREA.

AGAIN, IMPACTFUL.

ONE OF THOSE PIECES THAT MOVING FORWARD, OBVIOUSLY, WE'D HAVE TO UP OUR STAFFING TO SUPPORT THIS.

WE'VE ALREADY WORKED ON TRYING TO GET EQUIPMENT IN HERE.

TRYING TO MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES, WE'RE STAFFING AND ADDING THESE THREE ADDITIONAL SNOW ROUTES, WHICH WOULD BE MORE FULL-TIME MOVING FORWARD IF WE KEEP IT, IT'S GOING TO BE THE HARDER PIECE, I THINK, FOR US.

AGAIN, JUST IMPACTFUL LEARNING MOMENTS FOR US, NOT ALL BAD.

REALLY GOOD PIECES CAME OUT OF THAT, BUT IMPACTFUL.

ON THE BOTTOM, THE SNOW BERMS WERE A BIG ONE.

EVEN THOUGH WE PILED THE SNOW IN THE LEFT-HAND TURN LANES, PEOPLE STILL ATTEMPTED TO USE THOSE LANES, WHICH MADE IT DIFFICULT.

AFTER EVERY SNOW EVENT, AFTER THE OPERATORS HAD WORKED MULTIPLE DAYS ON 12-HOUR SHIFTS, WE BROUGHT THEM BACK IN EVERYONE FOR A FULL 12-HOUR SHIFT OVERNIGHT.

THEY HAD TO COME IN WITH ENOUGH TIME TO REMOVE A BUNCH OF THE CINDER BOXES, WHICH ACTUALLY TAKES A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME OUT OF THE SNOW PLOW TRUCKS, PUT THE TOLLGATES BACK ON THEM, GO OUT INTO THE FIELD, TAKE LOADERS OUT IN THE FIELD, LOAD UP THE SNOW, HAUL IT TO OUR SNOW STORAGE AREAS, AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE THE ROADS ACCESSIBLE AND AS MUCH CAPACITY AS WE COULD MOVING FORWARD.

IT DID ADD A LOT TO OUR SNOW OPERATIONS THIS PARTICULAR YEAR.

FROM HERE, WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO SOME OTHER STAKEHOLDER INPUT, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE JUST A MOMENT FOR SCOTT OVERTON JUST TO SPEAK ON THIS.

I KNOW COMING INTO THIS AND HEARING HIS FEEDBACK ON THIS AND COMING IN WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO HEAR AND UNDERSTANDING, THERE WAS A COMMITMENT COMING INTO THIS TO COME INTO IT WITH THAT NEUTRAL MINDSET AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE GOING TO LEARN SOME STUFF OFF OF THIS AND WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

BUT I DON'T HAVE THE ORIGINAL HISTORY OF THIS, WHICH MANY OF YOU KNOW, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE SCOTT A MOMENT TO REALLY SPEAK TO THIS AND GIVE HIS FEEDBACK.

>> NO. THANK YOU, SAM. I APPRECIATE IT AND I'LL COVER SOME OF THE SOLID WASTE SLIDE AS WELL AS IT'S IN PUBLIC WORKS.

I GO BACK AND WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

THIS DID PREDATE SAM'S ARRIVAL AT THE CITY AND REALLY I WAS A PART OF THE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS AND I REMEMBER MAKING A COMMITMENT TO THE COUNCIL INTO COMMUNITY THAT WE WOULD GIVE THIS AN HONEST EFFORT AND NO ONE IN THE GROUP HAD THE ATTITUDE TO UNDERMINE IT OR DO MISCHIEVOUS BEHAVIOR.

I WANT TO GIVE A BIG AMOUNT OF CREDIT TO OUR SIGNS AND MARKETING SUPERVISOR, GREG CREA.

HE REALLY TOOK THIS ONE AS HIS PRIMARY PROJECTS AND FOCUS.

NOT ONLY DOES IT HAVE A LOT OF MARKETING ELEMENTS WITH HIS SMALL TEAM, BUT THE SNOW OPERATIONS PIECE AND SAM TOUCHED ON IT.

IF YOU'VE GOT TO SEE IT, IT WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE TO WATCH HIM TRY TO MANEUVER THIS, BUT GREG SPENT SO MUCH TIME, AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE ALLEYS, OUT OF OUR OFFICE, AND GET THEM INTO A TRACTOR AND HELP SUPPORT THE PROGRAM WHEN WE COULDN'T GET ENOUGH OPERATORS ON THOSE SHIFTS.

BUT I THINK SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE ALSO RECEIVED WAS, AND SAM TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER WAS THE PRIDE IN THE WORKMANSHIP WAS LACKING BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET THERE FAST ENOUGH.

WHEN THE 22,000 CARS CAME DOWN THE ROAD FIRST, THEY JUST BECAME A HIGHER PRIORITY AND IT IS WHAT IT IS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT ELEMENT OF THE BIKE LANE REALLY BECAME MORE DELAYED AND WE DEFINITELY GOT THAT FEEDBACK INTO OUR CALLS AND INTO OUR FEEDBACK FROM THE CITIZENRY.

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BUT WE DID GET WITH OUR SOLID WASTE GROUP.

WE TALKED WITH THEM AS THEY HAD RECYCLE AND TRASH COLLECTIONS ON THIS ROUTE AS WELL.

THE REPORTS WE GOT BACK IN THE FEEDBACK WERE, OF COURSE, THEY CAN'T GET OUT OF A TRAVEL LANE TO TRY TO COLLECT CARTS THAT ARE LOCATED ON THAT STREET.

THEY DID WORK WITH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG EACH OF THE ROUTES TO TRY TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR, MAYBE PLACEMENT OF THE CART'S MOVING THEM AROUND CORNERS, PUTTING THEM IN ALLEYS.

MOST OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE VERY RECEPTIVE AND WERE ABLE TO RELOCATE TO ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS, BUT THERE WERE SOME THAT HAD NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE.

WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A GREAT PLACE TO PUT A RECYCLE OR A CRASH CART OTHER THAN MAYBE ON THE PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE OR TUCKED AS TIGHT AS POSSIBLE INTO THE CURB AND GUTTER.

BUT THAT SOLID WASTE TRUCK CAN ONLY REACH SO FAR TO GRAB A CART THAT MIGHT BE JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT BIKE LANE.

WE DID HAVE ONE INCIDENT WHERE A BICYCLIST, UNFORTUNATELY, WAS JUST SIMPLY KICKING TRASH CANS THROUGHOUT THE BIKE LANE AS THEY WERE TRAVELING THROUGH.

I KNOW THEY WERE FRUSTRATED AND PROBABLY AGGRAVATED BUT UNFORTUNATE THAT IT JUST CREATES MORE DRAMA AND MORE ISSUES FOR OUR OPERATIONS STAFF.

WE DID GET A REPORT FROM A BICYCLIST THAT HIT A TRASH CAN WITH THEIR HANDLEBARS, THEY DIDN'T JUDGE THE DISTANCE FROM HEIGHT PROPERLY AND UNFORTUNATELY DID WIPE OUT A TRASH CAN.

BUT MORE UNFORTUNATELY, THE BICYCLIST, CLEARLY HAD AN INTERACTION REQUESTING A FEW MORE SPACE AT A FEW LOCATIONS.

OH, THIS IS SIMPLY MULTIPLE CANS AT ONE LOCATION, WE GOT TO SPREAD THOSE OUT SO THAT OUR ARM CAN GRAB THAT CRASH CART.

WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO GET SOME MORE SPACE THROUGHOUT A NUMBER OF THESE LOCATIONS WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE SITE.

OUR OPERATORS BUTLER JUST FEELS NARROW, IT IS NARROW.

IT'S NOT A FEEL, IT'S AN ACTUAL EFFECT.

EAST SIDE RESIDENTS DRAGGING TRASH CAN OVER BICYCLE CURB, WE DID HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS ON THE EAST SIDE DIRECTION OF BUTLER THAT WERE REALLY AGITATED BY ALL THAT AND PUT THEIR TRASH CAN IN THE TRAVEL LANES CREATED A DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL ISSUE.

WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE IT WITH THE TRUCK, CLEARLY BUT WE DON'T WANT TRAFFIC MOVING FROM TRAVEL LANE TO TRAVEL LANE TO NAVIGATE TRASH CANS INTO THE STREET.

SAM MENTIONED THIS ON THE PARK SIDE, GREAT PARTNERS WITH AMY HAGEN AND HER GROUP AND HER SUPERVISORS, AND REBECCA'S PROS TEAM, THEY OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT THE MEDIANS, THE PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE DID CAUSE SOME DAMAGE TO THEIR SHRUBS, IRRIGATION, PLANTS, TREES, THEY FIGURED ABOUT $4,000 PER SEASON.

WE CERTAINLY DON'T INTEND TO CAUSE THE DAMAGE, BUT A LOT OF IT IT'S JUST THE SNOW STORAGE ON THE ACTUAL INVESTMENT OF LANDSCAPE.

ONE THAT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED WAS THAT ADDITIONAL CINDER APPLICATION FOR TRACTION CONTROL, ABOUT $2,000 PER SEASON.

OUR ESTIMATE, GET IT OUT OF THAT LANDSCAPE MEDIAN AND MAKE THOSE LOOK PRESENTABLE ONCE AGAIN.

CLEARLY HEAVIER CINDER SEASON, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE EFFECTS THERE, BUT TRACTION CONTROL BECAME A REALLY BIG SIGNIFICANT ISSUE IN PARTICULAR ON BUTLER.

RISK MANAGEMENT REPORTED THEY HAD TWO CLAIMS FILED, FOUR OFFICIAL INQUIRIES, WE CERTAINLY KNOW AND WE HAD CALLS THAT WERE THERE MORE INCIDENTS, BUT THEY WERE NOT NECESSARILY CALLED IN, BUT THAT WAS THEIR OFFICIAL REPORT BACK.

JEFF, I'M GOING TO LET YOU TAKE THESE, YOU HAVE THESE DIRECT CONTEXT.

BUT AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY SINCERE EFFORTS AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR INPUT AND FEEDBACK TONIGHT ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DID PRETTY EXTENSIVE STAKEHOLDER INPUT.

IT WAS BOTH PEOPLE WE THOUGHT WE WANTED TO TALK TO AND THEN JUST TALKED TO ONE GROUP AND THEY GO, "HEY, YOU SHOULD TALK TO THOSE GUYS AS WELL." HERE'S THE POLICE AND FIRE ROUNDUP.

THIS IS MOSTLY OFFICERS, THEIR OBSERVATIONS.

THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY CRASH REPORTS, THIS IS THEIR OBSERVATIONS FROM BEING OUT THERE A LOT MORE THAN MOST OF US ARE.

PLEASE THERE IS MORE INCREASED NEAR MISSES.

THE NARROW LANES DURING THE SNOWSTORMS WERE VERY DANGEROUS AND WHAT THEY DESCRIBED AS WHAT SAM DESCRIBED AS WELL.

WHEN THE LEFT TURN LANE IS BLOCKED, PEOPLE WERE TURNING OUT THROUGH LANES, DOING UNUSUAL THINGS, JUMPING ACROSS THE BERM AND THE MIDDLE.

THEN JUST SOMETIMES, WE DIDN'T HAVE TWO FULL TRAVEL LANES CONSISTENTLY DOWN BUTLER, THESE ARE MOSTLY BUTLER EXPERIENCES.

WE'D HAVE TWO LANES AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO ONE-AND-A-HALF AND BACK TO TWO SO UNCOMFORTABLE IF NOT DANGEROUS DRIVING CONDITIONS.

THEIR THOUGHT IN GENERAL WAS THE DANGEROUS DRIVING CONDITIONS OUTWEIGHED THE SAFETY BENEFITS FOR THE CYCLIST.

AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT WE GOT FOR FEEDBACK FROM POLICE AND FIRE, AND IN THE REPORT THERE'S QUITE A BIT MORE INFORMATION, BUT WE TRIED TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THIS HERE.

THIS ONE WAS REALLY INTERESTING.

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MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE NARROW LANES, BUT MOSTLY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SHOULDER ANYMORE OR WHAT? THE BIKE LANE/SHOULDER.

WHEN THERE WAS CONGESTION, ESPECIALLY ON BUTLER, FIRE ENGINE WOULD COME BUT CARS COULDN'T QUITE FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET OUT OF THE WAY.

WHEN THERE'S A MEDIAN BREAK, THEN GO TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE BUT YOU KNOW WHAT BUTLER LOOKS LIKE IN THE AFTERNOON SOMETIMES.

THAT WAS A REAL ISSUE THAT WE DID NOT EXPECT FOR FIRE RESPONSE AND SO THE SECOND BULLET TALKS ABOUT THAT THERE WAS SOME INCREASED RESPONSE TIMES WHICH WE KNOW ARE REALLY CRITICAL FOR THEM.

AGAIN, NARROWED SNOW LANES, THAT WAS A REALLY COMMON THEME AND THEY OBSERVED CYCLIST SOMETIMES USING THE TRAVEL LANES.

THIS TRASH CARTS IN BIKE LANES CONTINUED TO BE AN ISSUE.

I THINK WHERE WE'VE SETTLED IS THAT THE TRASHCAN NEEDS TO BE AS CLOSE TO THE CURB AS POSSIBLE, BUT SOMETIMES WHEN THE TRUCKS SETS IT BACK DOWN, IT'S NOT PERFECT OR THE WIND BLOWS IT AROUND A LITTLE, ITS A BIT OF AN ISSUE THAT THERE ISN'T A GREAT SOLUTION FOR.

ONE THING THAT WE'VE TALKED TO SOLID WASTE ABOUT IS WHERE WE PUT CANS UP AGAINST THE CURB, MAYBE WE NEED TO REMOVE A COUPLE OF THE PARKING CURBS SO THAT BIKES HAVE AN EASIER WAY TO GET AROUND THE TRASH CARTS, LIKE IT USED TO BE BEFORE WE HAD THE CURBS IN PLACE.

JUST CREATING SOME MORE BREAKS WHERE WE STORE TRASH CARTS.

WE TALKED TO MOUNTAIN LINE AND WE TALKED TO FUSD.

THEY ACTUALLY HAD AN INCIDENT WHERE THEY BUMPED EACH OTHER.

IT WAS JUST MIRRORS, BUT THEIR MIRRORS BUMPED EACH OTHER ON BUTLER, SO THAT WAS INTERESTING.

WE TALKED TO ONE AND THEY SAID YOU SHOULD TALK TO THE OTHER.

TRAVEL LANES ARE NARROW, THEY HAD THE BUMP.

MOUNTAIN LINE AGAIN REPORTED BICYCLISTS DRIVING IN THE TRAVEL LANES DURING SNOW EVENTS.

THERE WAS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS AND OF COURSE THAT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL.

RS ALLOWS YOU AS A CYCLIST, IF THE BICYCLE LANE IS BLOCKED, YOU CAN MOVE OVER TO THE TRAVEL LANE.

THAT'S ACCEPTABLE BUT THAT WAS HAPPENING.

WITNESS DRIVERS RUNNING OVER CURBS, BROKEN DELINEATORS.

IN GENERAL, MOUNTAIN LINE OBVIOUSLY IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT, BUT THEY DID HAVE THESE ISSUES WITH OPERATIONS. I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM ALL.

THEY'RE SIMILAR AND SOMEWHAT EXPECTED FROM SOME OF THESE, LET'S SEE.

COMMUNITY SURVEY, THIS IS MARTIN SLIDE.

WE'RE BACK AND FORTH HERE, BUT MARTIN TOOK THE LEAD ON THE COMMUNITY SURVEY, SO WE'LL LET HIM.

>> THANKS, JEFF. WE DID PUT A SURVEY OUT TO THE COMMUNITY VIA THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY FORUM, WHICH IS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND IT'S OUR ONLINE MEDIUM FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

IT WAS OPEN FOR A SHORT TIME.

YOU CAN SEE ONLY THREE WEEKS FROM MAY 2ND TO MAY 23RD AND WE RECEIVED 602 RESPONSES, WHICH JUDGING FROM OTHER SURVEYS THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE YEARS, IT'S A VERY HIGH RESPONSE RATE.

TYPICALLY, WE'RE IN THE LOW HUNDREDS, 200-300.

THE SURVEY WAS DIVIDED INTO FOUR PARTS.

THE FIRST PART WAS WE ASKED FOR EXPERIENCES WITH THE SEPARATED BIKE LANES AND HERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR A VARIETY OF EXPERIENCES FROM BOTH DRIVERS, BICYCLISTS, AND PEDESTRIANS AS WELL, SO WE WANTED TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE.

THE SECOND PART WAS A FOLLOW-UP WHERE WE ASKED THEIR GENERAL THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ABOUT DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE SEPARATED BIKE LANES.

THIRD PART OF THE SURVEY, WE ASKED THEM TO RATE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BIKE LANES THAT VARIED IN TERMS OF THEIR LEVEL OF SEPARATION FROM TRAFFIC AND THIS WAS A HYPOTHETICAL EXERCISE.

WE SHOWED THEM PICTURES AND DESCRIBED WHAT THE BIKE LANES LOOK LIKE AND ASK THEM TO IMAGINE THEMSELVES BICYCLING ON A FAIRLY BUSY ROAD AND THEN TELL US HOW COMFORTABLE THEY WOULD FEEL.

THEN FINALLY, [NOISE] WE ASKED ABOUT RESPONDENT'S LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE OR COMFORT AS BICYCLISTS.

WE WANTED TO GAUGE WHO FELL INTO THAT CATEGORY THAT I DESCRIBED EARLIER AS INTERESTED BUT CONCERNED AND WHO WERE THE MORE HIGH-LEVEL CYCLISTS AT THE TOP, AND THEN WHO WEREN'T BICYCLIST AT ALL AT THE OTHER END.

THEN WE COULD DIVIDE THE SURVEY OUT BY THOSE TYPES OF CYCLISTS AND SEE IF THE RESPONSES OR THE RESULTS CHANGED IN ANY WAY.

HERE'S SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE SURVEY.

FOR BICYCLISTS, THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THE SEPARATED LANES WAS BOTH EVENLY DIVIDED AND PRETTY HIGHLY POLARIZED.

AN EQUAL NUMBER OF CYCLISTS, THEIR EXPERIENCE WAS VERY POSITIVE AND THE SAME NUMBER SAID THEIR EXPERIENCE WAS VERY NEGATIVE WITH REFERENCE TO THE SEPARATED LANES.

FROM THE DRIVERS' POINT OF VIEW, IT WAS MORE UNIVERSALLY NEGATIVE.

I THINK SOMETHING CLOSE TO HALF OF RESPONDENTS WHO DROVE NEXT TO THE SEPARATED LANES INDICATED THAT THEIR EXPERIENCE WAS VERY NEGATIVE.

WE DID FIND SOME EVIDENCE IN THE SURVEY THAT THE SEPARATED LANES

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SOME OF THE POSITIVES THAT WE HEARD FROM THE SURVEY WERE THAT USERS FELT THAT ENHANCED SAFETY FOR BICYCLISTS, IT PREVENTED VEHICULAR ENCROACHMENT IN THE BIKE LANE.

THERE WAS GENERALLY BETTER ACCOMMODATION AND MORE AWARENESS FOR BICYCLISTS ON THOSE TWO ROUTES.

SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD FROM BICYCLIST INCLUDE MAINTENANCE.

THIS IS REALLY NOTHING NEW FROM WHAT YOU HEARD FROM SOME OF THE PRESENTERS BEFORE.

BUT THE CONCERNS WERE FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE LANES, INCLUDING REMOVAL OF SNOW AND CINDERS.

WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO THE DELINEATORS WHEN THEY FELL OVER, SOMETIMES THEY WOULD FALL INTO THE BIKE LANE, SOMETIMES THEY WOULD FALL INTO THE TRAVEL LINE.

WE HEARD ABOUT THE PRESENCE OF TRASH CANS IN THE BIKE LANES.

THERE WAS A CONCERN WITH VEHICLES TURNING SO PARTICULARLY IN THE CASE OF BUTLER, IT'S A FAIRLY HIGH-SPEED ROADWAY.

WHEN VEHICLES ARE MAKING A TURN FROM THE ROADWAY ONTO A SIDE STREET OR A DRIVEWAY OR TURNING FROM A SIDE STREET OR DRIVEWAY ONTO THE ROADWAY, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO GO PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE TRAFFIC ON THE ROADWAY IS ALREADY MOVING FAIRLY FAST.

FROM A BICYCLIST POINT OF VIEW, THAT MADE THEM FEEL MORE VULNERABLE BECAUSE THERE WERE VEHICLES TURNING ACROSS WITHOUT NECESSARILY PAYING AS MUCH ATTENTION AS THEY SHOULD TO THE BICYCLIST WHO ARE ALREADY IN THE LANE OR THE PEDESTRIANS ON THE SIDEWALK.

THEN FINALLY, WE HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF BICYCLISTS THAT THEY FELT TRAPPED WHERE THERE WAS A BARRIER.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY WANTED TO GET OUT TO MAKE A LEFT TURN OR TO GO AROUND OBSTRUCTIONS, TO GET FREE OF CINDERS OR TO GO AROUND TRASH CANS, THEY REALLY HAD VERY FEW OPTIONS WHEN THE RAILING WAS IN PLACE TO MOVE OUT.

FROM DRIVERS, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD WERE THE [NOISE] NARROWNESS OF THE LANES, SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT MAINTENANCE AND SNOW REMOVAL AND DELINEATORS.

AGAIN, THE SAME ISSUE OF BEING ABLE TO TURN FROM PARTICULARLY BUTLER ONTO SIDE STREETS OR DRIVEWAYS AND THEN FROM SIDE STREETS OR DRIVEWAYS BACK ONTO BUTLER.

WE NEED TO NOTE THAT MANY SURVEY RESPONDENTS EXPRESSED STRONG DISAPPROVAL OF THE SEPARATED LANES, AND I THINK WE'VE INCLUDED THE FULL RESPONSE, SUMMARY OF THE SURVEY AS WELL AS ALL THE RESPONSES.

TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO SURVEYS, I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO ARE REVIEWING THE RESULTS TO GO THROUGH THE COMMENTS BECAUSE IT COULD BE VERY EDUCATIONAL.

IN THIS CASE, THE COMMENTS GO ON FOR MANY PAGES, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SKIM THE RESULTS, MAYBE INSTEAD OF READING THEM ALL.

FINALLY, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IF YOU LOOK THROUGH IT, THERE IS SUPPORT FOR SEPARATED LANES, BOTH FROM SOME OF THE USERS OF THESE TWO PILOT PROJECTS ON BEAVER AND BUTLER, AS WELL AS IN MORE OF A HYPOTHETICAL SENSE.

WE ASKED PEOPLE ABOUT HORIZONTALLY SEPARATING BIKE LANES FROM TRAFFIC THAT IS MOVING THEM PHYSICALLY OFF OF THE ROADWAY.

THERE WAS A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THAT IDEA AND THAT SEPARATION FROM TRAFFIC.

I THINK THAT'S THE END OF THE SURVEY PART, BUT I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO JEFF.

>> HERE'S A COST SUMMARY THIS GOES THROUGH BOTH THE INSTALLATION WHICH ARE THE FIRST COUPLE OF LINES.

THAT THIRD LINE IS WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION COMING BACK IN THE SPRING NOW SUMMER WITH A PERMANENT FINAL PAVEMENT MARKINGS, ALSO ADDITIONAL AND THEN WE GET INTO SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE THINGS THAT SAM HAD MENTIONED.

THE NEW DELINEATORS, THE MAINTENANCE, THE SNOW OPERATIONS, THE SWEEPING OPERATIONS, PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATION AND THAT MEDIAN RESTORATION.

TO DATE WE'RE AT $931,000 ROUGHLY FOR THE PILOT PROGRAM OF THE FIRST SIX MONTHS AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE TOOLKIT PURCHASES SO THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES FOR THE MAINTENANCE, THE SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT.

HERE'S OUR RECOMMENDATIONS SUMMARIZE.

THIS IS THE FIRST PAGE OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE TALKED TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND I'LL SAY THAT OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION HAS CONTINUED TO EVOLVE AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORE, AS WE PRESENTED TO THESE COMMISSIONS AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IF YOU HAD PREVIEWED OUR PRESENTATION, IT'S MODIFIED SLIGHTLY BUT HERE'S WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSIONER WHERE THEY WERE AT.

THEY ARE RECOMMENDING REMOVING THE CURB AND DELINEATORS FROM BUTLER AND TURNING BUTLER INTO A BUFFERED BIKE LANE AND I HAVE SOME IMAGES OF WHAT THE BUFFERED BIKE LANE AS MARTIN MENTIONED IT BUT GENERALLY IT'S THE TRAVELING STAY ABOUT THE WAY THEY ARE.

WE REMOVE THE CURB AND WE ADD A SECOND WHITE LINE ON THE SURFACE SO IT'S A DOUBLE WHITE LINE TREATMENT.

NOT QUITE SURE WHAT WILL GET BECAUSE THE PAVEMENT WIDTH CHANGES QUITE A BIT THROUGHOUT THAT QUARTER BUT IT'S PROBABLY IN,

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THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION WAS SUPPORTIVE OF KEEPING BEAVER STREET THE WAY IT IS BECAUSE MOST OF THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD WAS RELATED TO BUTLER AS PART OF THE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.

THEN BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED KEEPING BUTLER AND BEAVER UP FOR AT LEAST A YEAR.

THEY LIKE TO SEE IT UP THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SUMMER, SEE IF WE COULD GET SOME OF THAT BICYCLE RIDERSHIP UP AND SEE IF SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE CONCERNS START TO ALLEVIATE THEMSELVES.

WE TALKED THROUGH IN MORE DETAIL WITH THE COMMISSIONS SMALL MODIFICATIONS TO THE CURRENT PLACEMENT.

SOME OF THE STARTS AND STOPS, SOME OF THE GARBAGE TRASH CAN THINGS THAT I MENTIONED, A HANDFUL OF CHANGES WE TALKED TO THEM IN DETAIL AND THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE.

THEN HERE'S THE SUMMARY OF STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND IT'S PRETTY LENGTHY AND I DID MODIFY THIS SLIGHTLY IN THAT FIRST BULLET FROM WHEN I SUBMITTED IT A WEEK AGO.

KEEP THE SEPARATED BIKE LANE PILOT PROJECT ON THE ONE-WAY PORTION OF BEAVER STREET, THE TWO-WAY PORTION TENDS TO HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE DESCRIBED ON BUTLER AVENUE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS FOLKS.

KEEP THE BEAVER STREET PORTION OF THE ONE-WAY WHICH IS COLUMBUS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO BUTLER AVENUE ESSENTIALLY AND THEN CONTINUE TO ANALYZE THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONAL IMPACTS OF ADJUSTING THE DELIMITERS AND CURB LIMITS AND CONTINUE TO COLLECT THAT BICYCLE RIDERSHIP INFORMATION.

AS I MENTIONED BEFORE WE HAVE SOME NEW EQUIPMENT SO WE CAN DO THAT MUCH MORE EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY.

THEN FOR BUTLER AVENUE WE'RE RECOMMENDING REMOVING THE PARKING CURBS COMPLETELY FOR THE WHOLE LIMIT OF THE PILOT PROGRAM WHICH IS MILTON TO SAWMILL AND REPLACING THAT WITH A BUFFERED BIKE FACILITY AND AGAIN 18 INCHES IN SOME PLACE IS PROBABLY A 12 INCH BUFFER IN OTHER PLACES WHICH IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH RECOMMENDED PRACTICES.

I THINK IDEALLY YOU GET TO 18 INCHES SO WILL BE A LITTLE UNDER BUT WE GET WHAT WE GET WITH THESE RETROFIT CONDITIONS.

THIS APPROACH IS CONSISTENT, AS MARTIN MENTIONED WITH THE ATMP OR THE MASTER PLAN OF PROGRESSING FROM THESE LESSER FACILITIES, GOING FROM A BIKE LANE TO A BUFFERED BIKE LANE AND EVENTUALLY THE LONG TERM WHEN FUNDING BECAME AVAILABLE OR GRANT FUNDING TO THE HORIZONTALLY SEPARATED, WHICH IS GETTING THE BIKE LANE COMPLETELY BACK OF CURB, THAT'S THE IDEAL CONDITION LONG-TERM.

THEN WE'D ALSO RECOMMEND A THIRD STEP BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PILOT.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO NEXT? WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE LOOK AT EXTENDING THE BUFFERED BIKE LANES ON BUTLER AVENUE FROM SAWMILL ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE INTER-CHAIN OR PONDEROSA PARKWAY.

REMOVING THE CURBS IN THE SECTION FROM MILTON TO SAWMILL ADDING BUFFERED AND THEN BUFFERED ALL THE WAY OUT TO PONDEROSA PARKWAY SO A RACE STRIPE OF THAT FACILITY.

THAT IS THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION THANK YOU, BACK-AND-FORTH AND THEN I DO HAVE AN IMAGE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT BUFFERED BIKE LANES LOOK LIKE.

THESE ARE A COUPLE OF IMAGES FROM, THEY BOTH ACTUALLY WERE PULLED FROM PORTLAND.

YOU CAN SEE THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS REALLY NICE PAVEMENT, A FRESH CONDITION AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS MORE OF A RETROFIT CONDITION IN A CITY, LOOKS LIKE CITY-CENTER.

IT'S INTERESTING THE ONE ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE HAS A BUFFER FROM THE TRAVEL WAY ON THE LEFT AND HAS A BUFFER FROM THE PARKED CARS ON THE RIGHT WHICH IS GOOD PRACTICE FOR DOOR ISSUES.

THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION, MORE LIKE THE LEFT IMAGE FOR BUTLER AVENUE AND THAT IS IT FOR US TONIGHT.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU MR. BELLMAN AND THE TEAM AND WE DO HAVE FIVE PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS ONLINE SO I WILL TAKE THOSE BEFORE WE GO TO COUNCIL.

>> MAYOR I HAVE OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENTER, JOHN DALY, JOHN YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

>> THANK YOU CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL RIGHT?

>> WE CAN HEAR YOU PLEASE PROCEED.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR, THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL AND THANKS [INAUDIBLE] FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

I WON'T SUGARCOAT IT, THIS IS A DISAPPOINTING PRESENTATION.

>> SIR IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO HEAR YOU ACTUALLY IT'S A LITTLE MUFFLED.

WOULD YOU MIND SPEAKING A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIKE IF YOU CAN?

>> HOW'S THAT?

>> SOUNDS A BIT BETTER THANKS.

>> I WAS SAYING THIS IS A DISAPPOINTING PRESENTATION AND IT'S A DISAPPOINTING RECOMMENDATION.

THE OVERALL TERM MAY SOUND LIKE WE AS A CITY ARE ENGAGED IN A BOLD AND GROUND-BREAKING EXPERIMENT TO TRY A SMALL PILOT OF PROTECTED BIKE LANES BUT THE REALITY IS WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE WAY, WAY BEHIND TWO CITIES THAT ALSO EXPERIENCED SNOW.

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I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, OTHER PLACES THAT ARE MAKING IT WORK AND THEY HAVE FOR MANY YEARS.

I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT WORK TOO AND I'LL ALSO DRAW A CONTRAST BETWEEN SOME OF THE DOWNSIDES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.

THE PRESENTATION THROUGH AROUND IN TERMS OF THE DOWNSIDES FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] THERE'RE SAFETY CONCERNS.

BUT I THINK WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IS THAT THERE'S A CONFLATION OF PROPERTY DAMAGE CONCERNS AND SAFETY CONCERNS WHEN TWO BUSES PUT THEIR MIRRORS OR WHEN A PERSON IS DRIVING THE TRACTOR AND THEY ACCIDENTALLY RUN THEIR TIRE INTO ONE OF THOSE CURBS AND CRACKS AROUND.

THAT'S NOT A SAFETY CONCERN THAT'S A MINOR PROPERTY DAMAGE CONCERN.

WHEN YOU DON'T KEEP A VEHICLE GOING 40 MILES AN HOUR ON BUTLER OUT OF THE BIKE PLAN THAT'S A SAFETY CONCERN AND THE CITY IS PROPOSING ROLLING THAT BACK BECAUSE IT'S INCONVENIENT, BECAUSE A MINORITY OF FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS ARE ANGRY THAT THEY CAN'T DRIVE IN THE BIKE LANE ANYMORE AND I THINK THAT'S WRONG.

[NOISE] ALSO TO MAKE ONE FINAL COMMENT RELATED TO THE CURB NEUTRALITY PLAN.

TRANSPORTATION MODE SWITCHING IS ONE OF THE KEY BUILDING BLOCKS OF THE CURB NEUTRALITY PLAN AND THAT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S A LOW-HANGING FRUIT IT'S BECAUSE THE MATH JUST DOES NOT WORK WITHOUT IT.

WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT REMOVING THE VERY SMALL MILEAGE OF PROTECTIVE BIKE LANE THAT WE HAVE, WE SHOULD BE HEARING ABOUT WHAT THE CITY'S PLANS ARE TO ADD MORE TO GROW PROTECTED BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE IN FLAGSTAFF SO THAT WE CAN MEET THOSE GOALS.

I THINK THIS IS VERY DISAPPOINTING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING AND I'LL YIELD THE REMAINING ONE SECOND THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU JOHN. OUR NEXT PUBLIC PARTICIPANT PLEASE?

>> OUR NEXT PUBLIC PARTICIPANT IS MICHELLE JAMES.

MICHELLE YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

>> GREAT THANK YOU. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MY NAME IS MICHELLE JAMES AND I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FRIENDS OF FLAGSTAFF'S FUTURE.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE OUTLINED IN THE CITY'S PRESENTATION REGARDING THE PILOT BIKE LANES ON BUTLER AVENUE AS THOSE SEEM TO BE OF MORE CONCERN THAN THE ONES ON BEAVER.

BUTLER NEEDS TO BE AN ACCESSIBLE AND SAFE TO BICYCLISTS AS IT PROVIDES ACCESS TO ANY NEW STUDENT HOUSING AS WELL AS BUSINESSES IN A GROCERY STORE AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE FLAGSTAFF BIKE WAYS NETWORK.

PROTECTED BIKE LANES ARE THE MEANS TO DO THIS.

THIS IS NECESSARY AS THE BIKE WAYS NETWORK IS PART OF A LARGER PLANT INCREASED BIKE RIDING AND AS A MEANS FOR FLUX STAFF TO IMPLEMENT THE CURB NEUTRALITY PLAN.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING REMOVAL OF THE PROTECTED BIKE LANES ON BUTLER AND CONVERTING THEM INTO BUFFERED LANES WITH NO PHYSICAL BARRIERS.

WHILE THE PILOT PROJECT ON BUTLER HAS HAD ITS ISSUES CREATING BUFFER LANES ON THIS ROAD OF THE STEP BACKWARDS.

I SUGGEST THAT COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF EXPLORE OTHER OPTIONS SUCH AS REDUCING THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT ON BUTLER TO 25 MILES PER HOUR, BETTER MAINTENANCE OF THE BARRIERS, STRENGTHENING OR CHANGING THE MATERIALS USED FOR THE BARRIERS, INCREASED EDUCATION FOR DRIVERS AND THOSE THAT LIVE ON BUTLER AS WELL AS BICYCLISTS.

IN ADDITION TO THESE OPTIONS PLEASE CONSIDER A LONGER-TERM SOLUTIONS SUCH AS ADDING A WIDE RAISED BIKE PATH, A WIDENING OF THE SIDE WALK FOR INSTANCE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, SIMILAR TO THE TRAIL ALONG ROUTE 66.

PLANNING COULD START ON THIS SOON USING PROF FOR $19 IN FUNDING COULD BE SOUGHT FROM OUTSIDE SOURCES TO SUPPLEMENT CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

F CUBE WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY IN LOCATING OUTSIDE FUNDING TO CREATE A SAFE BIKE WAY ALONG BUTLER. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MICHELLE. NEXT UP PUBLIC PARTICIPANT.

>> OUR NEXT ONE IS TRAY ODATO.

TRAY, YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

>> GREETINGS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.

IT GOES DOWN FOR DRE, MOST OF YOU KNOW ME, SURVIVOR OF THE BIKE CRASH ON MAY 28TH.

I ALSO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD KEEP ANY KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE, IT GETS VISIBILITY TO CYCLISTS.

I WILL ECHO MICHELLE'S COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO 25 MILE PER HOUR FOR THE SPEED LIMIT.

I THINK I WATCHED MARTIN SAYS CRASH DATA PRESENTATION AND BUTLER AND SAN FRANCISCO AND BUTLER AND BEAVER INTERSECTIONS

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NOT THE BIKE LANE KEEPING THAT, BUT ALSO MAKING THE INTERSECTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THOSE ACCIDENTS ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

IF YOU MAKE THOSE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE, THAT'S GOING TO BE BETTER FOR EVERYBODY.

THE OTHER PLACE WHERE THE MOST CRASHES HAPPEN, WERE ON MILTON.

WE ALL KNOW TO AVOID MILTON ALTOGETHER.

THAT'S NEVER SAFE OR GOOD FOR CYCLISTS, AS I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR ANY MONEY SPENT ON THAT.

BUT IF YOU COULD REDIRECT TO BUTLER AND BEAVER.

AS MOST PEOPLE HAVE ALSO SPOKEN IN REGARDS TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN CLIMATE EMERGENCY DECLARATION BY THE CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO START GETTING PEOPLE ON BIKES, WE HAVE TO START CONSIDERING PEOPLE IN ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION.

EVERYBODY LOVES TO COMPLAIN ABOUT CONGESTION, FLAGSTAFF, NOBODY LIKES TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

BESIDES CREATE MORE LANES, WHICH INDUCED DEMAND IS ONLY GOING TO PUT MORE CARS ON THE ROAD.

HOW DO WE GET MORE CARS OFF THE ROAD? GIVING PEOPLE OPTIONS.

HOW DO WE GIVE PEOPLE OPTIONS? MAKING IT SAFE AND EDUCATING PEOPLE.

IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO PEOPLE'S MINDS, INTO PEOPLE'S KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING? YOU HAVE TO HAVE EDUCATION AND DISCUSSION.

THERE'S ONLY ONE PROGRAM THAT HAPPENS ONCE A MONTH, THAT'S BIKE TO WORK MONTH.

EVERYBODY PUTS A BAND-AID ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

WHY AREN'T THERE VIDEOS ABOUT HOW TO GET AROUND SAFELY? WHY AREN'T THERE VIDEOS SUPPORTED IN PLACED ON THE CITY WEBSITE ABOUT HOW YOU TRAVEL IN DIFFERENT MODES, WHETHER THAT IS WALKING, WHETHER THAT IS DRIVING, WHETHER THAT IS BIKING, AND MAKING IT SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE THOSE? EDUCATION AND OUTREACH IS THE WAY TO DO THAT.

WE'VE GOT TO GET INTO SCHOOLS WHERE KIDS ARE TURNING 16, TRY TO GET THEM NOT TO BUY A CAR, GET THEM ON A BICYCLE, GET THEM TO WALK, GET THEM TO BUS.

DID YOU HAVE TO HAVE START HAVING THE EDUCATION FORUM AND YOU HAVE TO FUND THAT.

YOU'RE SPENDING A MILLION DOLLARS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT YOU'RE NOT SPENDING ANY MONEY ON OUTREACH.

HOW ARE YOU ACTUALLY GOING TO CHANGE THE MINDS OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRANSPORTING THEMSELVES AND TRYING TO GET THEM TO TRANSPORT THEMSELVES SAFE? MY ADVOCACY IS FOR EDUCATION, DISCUSSION, AND OUTREACH.

PUT SOME DOLLARS THERE.

[NOISE] I KEPT FURTHER THAN PUTTING INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE STREETS.

>> THANK YOU DRE. [INAUDIBLE] NEXT PUBLIC PARTICIPANT, PLEASE.

>> OUR NEXT COMMENTARY IS ANTHONY QUINTON.

ANTHONY, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ANTHONY, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

>> OKAY, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT I HAD MUTE MYSELF.

NOW, CAN YOU HEAR ME ALRIGHT?

>> YEAH. PLEASE PROCEED.

>> COUNSIL AND MAYOR, WE ARE PLEASED THAT THE COUNSEL CHOSE TO IMPLEMENT THE SEPARATED BIKE LANE PILOT PROGRAM AND ARE GRATEFUL TO THE STAFF FOR THEIR EFFORTS AS WELL AS APPARENT AS MUCH WAS LEARNED FROM THIS EXPERIMENT.

BEFORE WE ADDRESS THE ACTUAL ISSUES AT HAND, WE WANT TO STRESS THAT WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY DEDICATED RESOURCES TO SAFE AND EFFECTIVE BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE SHOULD NOT BE DECIDED BY A SEMI-FORMAL ONLINE POLL.

IT IS APT TO REFLECT THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE AVERSE TO CHANGE AND MANY PEOPLE ARE MERELY OPPOSED TO BICYCLING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR INDEFENSIBLE PERSONAL REASONS.

THESE ARE NOT VALID CONCERNS NOR SHOULD THEY BE HUMORED AS SUCH.

WE SUPPORT KEEPING THE CURRENT DESIGN IN PLACE FOR BEAVER AS RECOMMENDED BY CITY STAFF.

BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND, PLEASE.

THE ISSUES AND CONCERNS WITH BUTLER COMMAND NOT A REDUCTION AND SAFETY MEASURES FOR CYCLISTS, BUT RATHER A REDOUBLING OF EFFORTS.

IT IS INTERESTING THAT THE LEVEL OF DAMAGE CAUSED BY THE VEHICLES VEERING INTO THE DELIMITER, EATERS, AND CURVES, THE DESTRUCTION OF THESE INANIMATE OBJECTS SPEAKS TO THE CHALLENGES CYCLISTS FACE DAILY.

IT IS NOT LOST ON US THAT THE CHALLENGE IS EXPRESSED BY STAFF INCLUDED A LACK OF SOLUTIONS WHEN THEY WERE UNABLE TO BLOCK THE BIKE LANES WITH SNOW.

IT IS THE JOB OF THE CITY TO FIND SOLUTIONS FOR ALL MODALITIES INCLUDING BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.

AGAIN THIS ISSUE REQUIRES MORE EFFORT, NOT A BACKWARD STEP.

AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WE DO SUPPORT WOULD BE ELEVATING THE BIKE LANE TO THE GRADE OF THE SIDEWALK, THEREBY CREATING AN APPROXIMATELY TEN FOOT WIDE PAVED URBAN TRAIL ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.

IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THIS PATH BE INTEGRATED WITH CROSSINGS AND KEEPING WITH NECTO AND OTHER GUIDANCE ON THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN.

THIS IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD ADDRESS MANY OF THE CONCERNS WITH ME [INAUDIBLE] WHILE BOLSTERING CYCLIST AND MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY.

IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE IN THE MEANTIME, TO ADDRESS SUCH SPECIFIC CONCERNS

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IT IS APPARENT THAT SOME MOTOR VEHICLE USERS ARE FRUSTRATED THAT THEY'RE UNABLE TO MAINTAIN THE POSTED SPEED LIMITS.

PERHAPS LOWERING SPEED LIMIT TO SOMETHING MORE REASONABLE WE SUGGEST 25 MILES PER HOUR FOR NARROW LANES AND A DENSELY POPULATED AREA IS IN ORDER.

WE DO SUPPORT EXTENDING THE PROJECT TO AT LEAST PONDEROSA PARKWAY.

ADDING SOME PAINT TO THE ROADWAY UNDER THE GUISE OF CREATING QUOTE UNQUOTE BUFFERED BICYCLE LANES IS A STEP BACKWARD FROM THIS DEMONSTRATION PROJECT, AND WE'LL LEAVE BICYCLISTS MORE VULNERABLE TO THE NUMEROUS DISTRACTED DRIVERS USING THE ROADWAY.

THANKS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU, ANTHONY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS? ONE MORE.

>> MAYOR, OUR FINAL PUBLIC COMMENTER IS SAM MAYER.

SAM, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE HAS SAID ON THIS CALL BEFORE ME, THAT REMOVING THE SEPARATED BIKE LANES AND GOING BACK TO BUFFERED WOULD INDEED BE A STEP BACKWARD AND SINCE OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN ELOQUENTLY ABOUT POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE AS MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE RIDING BUTLER AS A COMMUTER EVERY DAY.

WHAT I FOUND NOTABLE FROM THE SURVEY DATA IS THAT DRIVERS EXPRESS CONCERNS ABOUT HOW BADLY DAMAGED THE CURVES HAD BEEN AND HOW QUICKLY DAMAGED THEY ARE.

AS A CYCLIST, I CAN TELL YOU THAT AS I WAS ON MY WAY TO WORK OR TO RUN ERRANDS, WHAT I FELT WAS ABJECT TERROR.

IT IS TERRIFYING TO KNOW THAT MANY DRIVERS ON THE ROAD DO NOT SEE CYCLISTS AS A LEGITIMATE FORM OF TRAFFIC, DO NOT RESPECT PAINTED LINES, AND DON'T EVEN RESPECT SMALL CABS WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO GET WHERE THEY NEED TO GO WITH NO CONCERN FOR OTHER MODALITIES OF TRAVEL.

I CAN UNDERSTAND VERY INTIMATELY THE FRUSTRATIONS EXPRESSED BY BOTH CYCLISTS AND DRIVERS ABOUT THIS PILOT PROJECT.

BUT I AGREE THAT THE SOLUTION SHOULD BE TO PROVIDE MORE SAFETY AND BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE FOR CYCLISTS THAT REDUCES THE POTENTIAL FOR HARMFUL OR EVEN LIFE-THREATENING INTERACTIONS BETWEEN CARS AND BIKES.

A PAINTED BUFFERED BIKE ZONE DOESN'T DO THAT IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY.

I THINK WE'RE ALL AWARE OF THAT.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE'S OFTEN A UNDERCURRENT TO THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SUGGESTS THAT THIS KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS OPTIONAL.

I WOULD LIKE TO STRONGLY SUGGEST TO COUNCIL THAT IT IS NOT.

THE BICYCLE IS THE MOST POPULAR FORM OF TRANSPORTATION IN THE WORLD.

IT IS ACCESSIBLE TO THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE THE MEANS TO OWN CARS OR WHO SHARE CARS WITH OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS.

BY CHOOSING CONTINUALLY TO ELEVATE THE NEEDS OF DRIVERS WHO ARE PEOPLE GENERALLY IN A SPECIFIC CLASS OVER THE NEEDS OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, THE COUNCIL REVEALS ITS CLASS BLINDNESS, AS WELL AS ITS LACK OF TRUE COMMITMENT TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

I WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN YOU RIDE BUTLER EVERY DAY LIKE I DO, YOU SEE SOME PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO ARE AFFLUENT, MIDDLE-CLASS PEOPLE TRYING TO GET TO WORK BECAUSE WE FEEL WE WANT TO MAKE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

BUT I SEE FAR MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE RELIANT ON THEIR BICYCLES, WHO ARE RIDING FROM THE CONSTRUCTION SITE, THE NEW CREDIT UNION STILL WEARING THEIR CONSTRUCTION HELMET, PRESUMABLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY HAVE TO GET HOME.

I URGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE AND THEIR NEEDS AND THEIR SAFETY, AND NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF DRIVERS AND THEIR DESIRE TO GO FAST. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SAM. I DO UNDERSTAND THIS IS OUR LAST PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS, SO WE WILL, AT THIS POINT IT TURNED INTO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION QUESTIONS AND ANYTHING ON THAT. COUNCIL MCCARTHY.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

CONSIDERING THAT IT'S STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, THAT WE GET RID OF THE CURVES AND WHATEVER YOU CALL THOSE LITTLE CANDLE STICK COLUMNS AND REPLACE IT WITH A BUFFERED BIKE LANE, WHERE WOULD THOSE BUFFERED BIKE LANES STRIPES BE WITH RESPECT TO WHERE THE CURVES ARE NOW? WOULD THEY BE CENTERED ON WHERE THE CURVES ARE OR WOULD THEY BE ON THE BIKE LANE SIDE OF THE CURVE OR THE CAR SIDE OF THE CURVE?

>> THANK YOU, JEFF. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. LET ME GO BACK.

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YOU CAN SEE THE CROSS-SECTION.

I CAN SEE IT.

>> STACY.

>> IT'S ON THE CLICK. DO I NEED TO DO SOMETHING HERE?

>> OKAY.

HOLD.

THERE WE GO. IT'S GOING TO POP.

>> THAT'S OKAY IF IT WON'T COME BACK.

THANK YOU. YOU CAN SEE THE CONFIGURATION HERE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE NARROWER SECTIONS.

THIS IS BEAVER STREET SHOWN IN THE IMAGE AND ON THE LEFT SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE YOU CAN SEE THE LANES ARE 10 FEET, EIGHT-AND-A-HALF INCHES, AND THE BIKE LANE MEASURED TO THE MIDDLE ROUGHLY, AND I THINK THAT'S THE MIDDLE.

THAT IS TO THE EDGE OF THE CURB.

THE CURB IS SEVEN INCHES WIDE AND THE STRIPE TODAY IS OFFSET FROM THE CURB ON THE CAR SIDE AN INCH OR TWO.

THAT'S SIX INCHES. EVEN IF WE TOOK THE NEW WHITE STRIPE AND PUT IT RIGHT WHERE THAT CURB IS WE'D END UP WITH A 12 INCH BUFFER.

IF WE MOVE IT INTO THE BIKE LANE A LITTLE BIT WE CAN GET TO THE 18.

>> WHEN YOU SAY THE CURB DO YOU MEAN THESE TEMPORARY CURBS WITH THE POLES ON THEM?

>> CORRECT.

>> OKAY.

>> YEAH. THE VERTICAL CURB, YEAH. SORRY.

>>OKAY.

>> THE TEMPORARY VERTICAL CURB IS ABOUT SEVEN INCHES WIDE AND THE WHITE STRIPE THAT WE INSTALLED WITH THIS LAYOUT IS SIX INCHES WIDE AND IT'S ON THE CAR SIDE OF THE CURB, IS WHERE THE WHITE STRIPE IS.

IN MOST CASES I THINK THAT STRIPE CAN STAY AND THEN THE NEW WHITE STRIPE WILL GO JUST INSIDE OF WHERE THE CURB WAS.

WHERE THE CURB WAS WOULD BE THE GAP, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> I'M NOT QUITE FOLLOWING THIS.

WHEN YOU SAY INSIDE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MEAN TOWARDS THE CENTER LINE OF THE STREET OR IF YOU MEAN TOWARDS THE CURB.

>> ONE MORE TIME.

>> LET ME START ONE MORE TIME AND I'LL SAY IT DIFFERENTLY.

THERE'S THE TRAVELING, AND THEN THERE'S A WHITE STRIPE, AND THEN A VERTICAL CURB.

IF WE REMOVE THE VERTICAL CURB AND THIS IS THE TEMPORARY PARKING CURB, IT'S ABOUT SEVEN INCHES WIDE.

THEN GENERALLY WE HAVE FIVE FEET OR FIVE-AND-A-HALF FEET OF BIKE LANE OF ASPHALT AND THEN ANOTHER FOOT AND A HALF OF GUTTER TO GET TO THE PERMANENT VERTICAL CURB.

THE WHITE STRIPE COULD GO BACK JUST TO THE BIKE LANES SIDE OF THE CURB WHERE WE HAVE ENOUGH BIKE LANE WIDTH AND WE WOULD END UP WITH AN 18 INCH BUFFER, AND STILL A FIVE-FOOT BIKE LANE.

THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST SPACE.

IN SOME PLACES WE WOULD GO WITH A NARROWER BUFFER TO MAINTAIN THE BIKE LANE WIDTH WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT WIDER SECTION.

THE ROAD IT LITERALLY CHANGES MORE THAN A COUPLE OF TIMES A BLOCK.

THERE'S NOT A PERFECT ANSWER FOR WHAT THE DIMENSIONS WOULD BE, BUT WE WOULD GO WITH 12 INCHES AT A MINIMUM AND I THINK WE WOULD BE 18 AT A MAXIMUM FOR THE BUFFER.

>> TO ASK THE QUESTION IN A DIFFERENT WAY, [LAUGHTER] IF YOU DREW A LINE AT THE CAR SIDE OF THIS LITTLE TEMPORARY CURBS, WOULD THE WHITE LINE MOVE TOWARDS WHERE THE CARS ARE ANY MORE THAN IT IS NOW OR WOULD IT ALL BE TAKEN OUT OF THE OTHER SIDE?

>> YES. THAT LINE WOULD STAY WHERE IT IS.

>> ALL RIGHT. THAT ANSWERS IT.

>> [LAUGHTER] SORRY. THAT WAS TOO EASY [LAUGHTER].

>> IT'D BE EASIER IF WE HAD A CHALKBOARD BECAUSE WE COULD DRAW IT.

[LAUGHTER]

>> COUNCIL, ARE THERE QUESTIONS, DISCUSSIONS? YES, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU TO STREETS, PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS, AND OUR COMMUNITY FOR WALKING THROUGH THIS WITH US.

LOTS OF LESSONS LEARNED AND MORE TO GO.

I'M A NEWISH BICYCLE COMMUTER AND I DO USE THE SEPARATED BIKE LANE ON BEAVER.

HONESTLY I WILL SAY I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ON MY BIKE AND I THINK IT HAS PROMOTED ME RIDING IT ALMOST DAILY NOW.

I WAS ASKED WHEN I ATTENDED RICK BARRETT'S RETIREMENT IF I HAD RIDDEN MY ELECTRIC BIKE AND I SAID, "NO, I'M NOT GOING TO RIDE IT ON BUTLER." JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

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I DON'T THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WORKING.

IT'S COSTING, IT'S PROVIDING SAFETY ISSUES, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN JUST SAY LET'S REVERT TO SOMETHING ELSE AND FORGET ABOUT SEPARATED BIKE LANES ON BUTLER.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO ULTIMATELY.

A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN THE PRESENTATION I HAVE WITNESSED AND HAD TO DODGE THE DELINEATORS AS I'M RIDING IN THE BIKE LANE, CINDERS, ETC, SO I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT.

I GUESS MY ONE QUESTION THAT I'VE BEEN HAVING AND JUST RIDING MY BIKE MORE OFTEN, I NOTICED THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND ONE IS THE BICYCLE MARKINGS SO THE GREEN PAINT.

YOU WERE MENTIONING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE REDOING THAT IN THE SUMMER.

IS THAT THROUGHOUT OUR CITY? I REALIZE NOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT MARKING IS.

SOMEONE REFERENCE THIS, IF YOU GO UP SAN FRANCISCO THESE MARKINGS ARE NOT THERE TO LET THE VEHICLE KNOW THAT THAT IS A THREE-BIKE LANE.

WONDERING ON THE GREEN PAINT AND HOW WE BUDGET THAT MOVING FORWARD AND HOW WE KEEP UP WITH THAT.

THIS IS A CHALLENGING CONVERSATION, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT WE TOOK A STEP.

HOW DO WE LEARN LESSONS IF WE DON'T TRY IT? THANK YOU AGAIN TO EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN DILIGENTLY TRYING TO GET THIS THROUGH. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. [OVERLAPPING].

>> OH, I'M SORRY. [LAUGHTER] YEAH, INVITING BAUMANN UP HERE AGAIN.

MY APOLOGIES AND I'LL GET RIGHT TO YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI.

>> I GUESS I WENT ON TOO LONG, BUT THE GREEN MARKINGS, CAN YOU? [LAUGHTER]

>> YEAH, SORRY. WE WERE SO MANY OF US THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, BUT I DID MENTION THE GREEN BUTLER AVENUE AND BEAVER STREET.

SO THOSE WERE PAINTED, WHICH WAS A TEMPORARY INSTALLATION.

WE'VE GOT THE CONTRACTOR LINED UP AND AGAIN IT'S NEXT WEEK OR THE WEEK AFTER.

I THINK IT'S THE 20TH, SO THAT IS NEXT WEEK TO REDO BUTLER AND BEAVER MARKINGS ONLY WITH THE THERMOPLASTIC.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE LINE ITEMS THAT YOU SAW IN THE BUDGET HERE AT ONE OF THE SLIDES.

FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE I MIGHT TURN TO SAM OR SCOTT TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEIR ONGOING MAINTENANCE PROCESS WORKS.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT, JEFF.

HE'S SPOT ON THERE AS FAR AS ONGOING STRIPING.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WORK ON ANNUALLY.

THEY'RE WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW, HOWEVER, THEY ARE SHUTDOWN IN PREPARATION FOR MUSEUM OPERATIONS IN THIS SATURDAY'S EVENT.

WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO SHUT DOWN THE ENTIRE STREETS OPERATIONS, SO NO FUNCTIONAL STANDARD STREETS OPERATIONS ARE HAPPENING THIS WEEK IN SUPPORT OF TRYING TO GET STUFF READY FOR THIS WEEKEND.

BUT NORMALLY, THEY'D BE UP AND RUNNING RIGHT NOW TRYING TO GET THOSE ITEMS PAINTED AND STRIPED.

AS FOR ADDING THESE PIECES HERE, IT WOULD TAKE JEFF TO BASICALLY SIGN OFF ON THAT AS THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

GO THROUGH STUDY AND DO ALL THE PIECES LIKE THAT, AND WE CAN GET THEM IMPLEMENTED.

FRANKLY, WE DON'T HAVE TOO MANY ISSUES WITH THE PAINT WORK ITSELF.

I THINK THEY'RE A REALLY GOOD ENHANCEMENT TO THE PROCESS, AND FRANKLY, WE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO SUPPORT THIS.

I DID LIKE ALL THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD ABOUT PEOPLE SAYING THAT, REALISTICALLY IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, HAVING THE SEPARATED BIKE LANES ON THE STREET LEVEL PROBABLY ISN'T THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.

BUT I THINK THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK REALLY THAT DAWNED ON ME AS THEY WERE SAYING, THAT'S A GOOD FEEDBACK BY THEM.

IN FACT, AS FAR AS THIS GOES, I THINK IT'S A VERY DOABLE OPTION.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY WHO ENGAGE US NOW IN PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO GOT THESE UP AS QUICKLY AS WE DID.

ALTHOUGH THERE HAVE BEEN SOME HICCUPS ALONG THE WAY, I'M GENERALLY VERY PLEASED WITH HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

WE HAD 602 RESPONSES TO OUR SURVEY, AND THROUGHOUT THIS CONVERSATION, I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT MY FOCUS IS ON THAT INTERESTED BUT CONCERNED POPULATION OF WRITERS.

NOT FOLKS LIKE MYSELF WHO ARE WILLING AND ABLE TO RIDE A BIKE AND RISK OUR LIVES SEPARATED BY A THIN STRIP OF PAINTS.

THE VICE MAYOR'S COMMENTS ABOUT RIDING ON BUTLER.

I RIDE ON BUTLER AND IT IS SKETCH.

WHEN YOU GO PAST THE PART WHERE THERE ISN'T ANY MORE BIKE-SEPARATED LANES.

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I LOVE TO SEE US BREAK DOWN THE COST TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS PER VEHICLE MOVEMENT AND LAYOUT THE COMPLAINTS WE HAVE, WITH THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS THE CARS HAVE ON OUR ROADWAYS LIKE WE DID FOR THESE PILOTS.

I THINK THAT'D BE REALLY INTERESTING CONVERSATION THAT WE CAN HAVE AT A LATER DATE.

BUT THE RESULTS FROM THE SURVEY WERE VERY INSIGHTFUL AND I ENJOYED READING THROUGH THE MANY COMMENTS I CAME IN.

SOME OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS FOR ME WERE THE RESPONDENTS WANT SEPARATION AND IDEALLY HORIZONTAL SEPARATION.

OBVIOUSLY WITH FUTURE PROJECTS WE'RE INCLUDING THAT IN DESIGN, WHICH IS WONDERFUL, BUT WHAT THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE TO RETROFIT, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED, AND THAT BRINGS US TO THIS POINT.

BUT PEOPLE WANT SEPARATION.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY A GOOD TAKEAWAY THAT I THOUGHT CAME THROUGH PRETTY CLEAR.

MORE CHOSE TO RIDE WITH THE SEPARATE LANES, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS JUST FOR A SEGMENT AND IT WASN'T A HOLISTIC NETWORK, WE STILL SAW MANY COMMENTS FROM FOLKS SAYING THAT THEY WERE CHOOSING TO RIDE MORE, INCLUDING VICE MAYOR THAN BEFORE, WHICH IS PROOF THAT THIS IS WORKING.

MAINTENANCE WAS A HUGE ISSUE.

SAM AND SCOTT, YOU ALL KNOW TOO WELL AS I DO, THOSE FIRST SNOW CAME IN AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT UNTIL A MONTH OR TWO AFTER WE HAD THE SNOW.

IT WAS EMBARRASSING.

I FELT BAD FOR RIDERS.

I FELT HORRIBLE, KNOWING THAT WE PUT THOSE BIKE LANES OUT, WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEM.

OF COURSE, THE COMMENTS COMING IN ON THE SURVEY WERE SUPER NEGATIVE ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE.

BUT SAM, TO YOUR TEAM'S CREDIT, YOU ALL WORKED HARD, YOU LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES AND I FEEL GOOD GOING INTO NEXT WINTER.

STAFFING IS AN ISSUE, BUT I THINK OUR TEAM WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP SAM, CAN TAKE THIS ON AND REALLY SHOW THE COMMUNITY WHAT A PROPERLY MAINTAINED BIKE CORRIDOR LOOKS LIKE IT MUST HAVE BEEN A FLAGSTAFF.

IT RATED VERY LOW IN THE SURVEY, AND IT WAS EVEN NOTED BY THE RESULTS THAT IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE CITY DID NOT HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT TO SWEEP AND THE BIKE LANES FOR THE DURATION OF THE BIKE OR THE PILOT PERIOD.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, WHEN WE CONSIDER THESE COMMENTS.

WE ALSO HEARD THAT THE LINES ARE TOO THIN.

MOVING FORWARD, COUNCIL, WE NEED 8-10 FOOT LANES MINIMUM BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT AND SIMPLEST WAY TO MAINTAIN THEM.

ELEVATING THAT CURVE TO DO THAT TEN-FOOT PUT SAMPLE SIZE OF THE ROAD, THAT WAS AN IDEA THAT RICK DEREK CAME UP WITH AND I LOVE IT AND I'M CURIOUS TO SEE US EXPLORE THAT PRIOR TO REMOVING THESE LANES ENTIRELY.

WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE TRASH PICKUP AND I KNOW STAFF IS WORKING ON THAT AND I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.

SPACING BETWEEN CURVES TO GIVE THE RIDER THE ABILITY TO WEAVE IN AND OUT IF NEEDED, I THINK MIGHT GO A LONG WAY.

WE DON'T NEED THOSE FLAPS EVERY SINGLE TIME.

I FEEL LIKE WE CAN POTENTIALLY PLAY WITH THE SPACING, SAM.

I GUESS THIS IS MORE OF A COMIC FOR SAM.

I TRUST, SAM YOU AND YOUR TEAM, I KNOW YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH ABOUT THE COLORS AND WHATNOT AND WORKING WITH MOUNTAIN LINE.

I JUST THINK THAT WE CAN KEEP PLAYING WITH THIS TO DIAL IT EVEN MORE.

MERGING POINTS NEED TO BE SIGNED.

ESPECIALLY THE BEAVER HILL GOING DOWN, I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY GOOD COMMENTS WE GOT FROM THE SURVEY ABOUT STAFF.

I'M SURE YOU SAW AND I LOVE TO SEE US WORK ON.

SIGNAGE, WHATNOT BEAVER STREET CORRIDOR, BIKE LANE IS ENDING AND CYCLISTS ARE SUBMERGE INTO THE ROAD, WE NEED BETTER SIGNAGE.

WE NEED MORE EDUCATION AS WE HEARD A LOT FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT AND WE NEED TO HELP THE PUBLIC GET ON BOARD WITH US AND UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORKS.

BUS MOVEMENT NEEDS TO BE BETTER SUPPORTED.

IN REGARDS TO THE DOUBLE LEFT TURN BOX, THEY NEED TO BE LARGER AND SET BACK FROM THE INTERSECTION A BIT MORE.

THEY'RE TOO SMALL AND THEY'RE A LITTLE TOO FAR OUT THERE.

IT'S A LITTLE SKETCH, AND I AGREE WITH THE CONFUSION ABOUT THEM.

BUT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE EDUCATION AS WELL.

THE PETITION THAT WAS TURNED INTO A YEAR AGO TALKED ABOUT REDUCING THE SPEED TO 25, AND I THINK THAT IN REDUCING THE SPEED, JEFF THIS IS A COMMENT FOR YOU, I THINK THAT IF WE DID THAT, I THINK A LOT OF THE CAR COMPLAINTS AND ISSUES AROUND VEHICLE MOVEMENT WOULD BE ADDRESSED AND I'D BE REALLY CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THE PUBLIC RESPONDS TO THAT AS A DRIVER.

PEDESTRIANS EXPRESS POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT THE BIKE LANES.

AS I'M SURE, FOLKS WHO ARE ON COUNCIL WHO REVIEWED THE PACKETS, THEY EXPRESS THAT.

ALTHOUGH THE MAINTENANCE OF THE WALKWAY FOR THE PEDESTRIAN WAS MARKED.

THEY FELT SAFER BECAUSE OF THE FURTHER DISCONNECT FROM THE CAR, BECAUSE OF THE BIKE LANE.

I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT NOTE HERE.

THIS IS A POSITIVE FOR PEDESTRIANS.

I THINK WE NEED A LONGER COUNT PATTERN TO

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OUR SNOW REMOVAL PLAN ISN'T IDEAL.

WE KNEW THIS GOING INTO IT, BUT WE'RE MAKING IT WORK.

AS ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENTER SAID, WHEN WE PUT THE SNOW INTO THE BIKE LANE AND THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY, THAT'S OKAY. NO ISSUE THERE.

WHY? BUT WHEN WE PUT THE SNOW INTO THE CENTER, SUDDENLY HERE'S ALL THESE ISSUES.

AGAIN, WHO ARE WE PRIORITIZING COUNCIL? WHO ARE WE WORKING FOR? I REALLY WANT TO SEE US EXPLORE THE ELEVATED OPTION THAT RICK CAME UP WITH TO BUILD A TWO 10 FOOT PASS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.

I THINK THAT'S A REAL GOOD SOLUTION THAT CHECKS ALL THE BOXES OF THE ISSUES HERE.

AND I'M GOING TO READ THIS REALLY QUICK.

IN THE PACKET IT SAID, GENERAL THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS, SEPARATE BIKE LANES TO HELP CYCLISTS FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AND CAN HELP ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO RIDE.

MORE THAN HALF OF THE RESPONDENTS WHO BICYCLED IN THE SEPARATE LANES REPORTED THAT THE LANES MADE THEM FEEL SOMEWHAT COMFORTABLE OR VERY COMFORTABLE.

FOR THOSE WHO RODE IN THE BIKE LANES, ABOUT 40 PERCENT SAID THEY WERE MORE, SOMEWHAT OR MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BICYCLE ON BUTLER OR BEAVER AS A RESULT OF THESE BIKE LANES.

THEY'RE WORKING. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING THEM.

THERE'S A LEARNING CURVE TO THESE TYPES OF BIG SHIFTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

ATTENTION IS NEEDED BEFORE WE DECIDE TO REMOVE THESE.

SCOTT, YOU MENTIONED AN HONEST EFFORT.

I REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT HONEST EFFORT LAST A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THE CURRENT EFFORT.

THIS ISN'T TRADITION CALLING FOR MANY OF THESE POINTS AND MORE.

HAD NEARLY A THOUSAND SIGNATURES IN JUST OVER A FEW DAYS OF COLLECTING, IF YOU RECALL.

WE HAVE PUBLIC SUPPORT COUNCIL.

OTHER PHASES AND NEXT STEPS, AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD TOWARDS A HOLISTIC CONNECTED NETWORK THAT SERVES ALL POPULATIONS, COUNCIL, THERE'S REALLY FOUR POINTS I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TO SEE IF THERE'S MAJORITY SUPPORT FOR.

THE FIRST ONE IS FALL THROUGH ON THE PETITIONS ASKS OF REDUCING THE SPEED TO 25 MILES AN HOUR.

THERE I KNOW YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THIS AND I LOVE TO SEE US SEE THAT THROUGH.

SECONDLY, EXPAND THESE EFFORTS FURTHER MUCH FURTHER THAN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

FOR THE PETITION CALLS FOR SAN FRANCISCO STREET, FOURTH STREET, [NOISE] MILTON, WHICH WE COULD DO THAT PARALLEL CORRIDOR AND MORE.

LET'S CONTINUE.

NOW IT TAKES US BACKWARDS, LET'S TAKE STEPS FORWARD.

WE NEED A BETTER SIGN MARK TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC WHILE WORKING THROUGH THESE STRUGGLES WITH TRASH.

THAT'S MY THIRD POINT. THEN THE FOURTH ONE IS EXPLORE [INAUDIBLE] SUCH AS THE ELEVATION OF THE BIKE LANE AND CREATING THE TIME FOOT CORRIDOR ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.

THE FACT THAT THESE CURVES AND DELINEATORS ARE GETTING ADDED, REPLACED, AND DESTROYED FURTHER MAKES THE CASE FOR WHY THESE ARE NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT GIVES ME CHILLS WHEN I SEE HOW MUCH DAMAGE THESE CURVES HAVE.

AND I'M GRATEFUL AS A CYCLIST FOR THE SEPARATION [NOISE] AND FOR THE CURVE TAKING THAT BEATING RATHER THAN ME, THE CYCLIST, OR ANY OF MY OTHER PEERS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

IT WILL BE A REAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO SEE THESE LANES REMOVED.

AND I'M REALLY HOPING TO SEE US NOT ONLY FURTHER EMBRACE THESE LANES,BUT CONTINUE FORWARD.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE REST OF YOUR COMMENTS, COUNCIL AND MAYOR, AND I'M REALLY HOPING WE CAN NOT JUST REMOVE THESE, BUT BUILD UPON THIS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI.

I'LL WANT TO GIVE MY TWO SENSE HERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE BUTLER AVENUE IS THAT WE, A, WHEN WERE TALKING COSTS, HAVE OVER $0.5 MILLION OF SUNKEN COSTS INTO THIS PROJECT.

AND ONLY SIX MONTHS OF DATA TO REALLY EVALUATE THEIR EFFICACY.

ONE PIECE OF DATA THAT GOT OVERSHADOWED BY ALL THE OTHER NUMBERS, IS THAT DURING THE STUDY PERIOD, CRASH DATA OBTAINED FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOUND NO FATAL OR SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES REPORTED SINCE THE BARRIERS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED.

THAT WAS PERSONALLY THE MAIN MOTIVE FOR MOST OF US IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

IT'S ABOUT THE SAFETY.

IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT HURT SERIOUSLY ON THAT STRETCH OF ROAD.

NOT TO BELABOR TOO MUCH HERE.

I WILL JUST SAY THAT I PERSONALLY, IN FAVOR OF THE BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEES SUGGESTION TO KEEP BUTLER AND BEAVER FOR

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AS STATED, WE STILL DON'T EVEN HAVE ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT.

WE NEED TO ADD THAT WE'VE ALREADY ORDERED AND PUT TOGETHER TO MAINTAIN THESE.

I THINK PEOPLE'S PERCEPTIONS ONCE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH NOW THIS YEAR AFTER THE EXPERIMENT OF SEEING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO ADJUST.

I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE.

DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME THEY WENT THROUGH A ROUNDABOUT? HOW MANY CIRCLES DID YOU DO BEFORE YOU GOT OUT OF IT? [LAUGHTER] SERIOUSLY, IT'S NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, NEW IDEAS, NEW APPROACHES, TAKES SOME ADJUSTMENT FROM THE PUBLIC.

I'M NOT WILLING TO PULL THOSE CURVES OUT RIGHT NOW WITHOUT MORE DATA, WITHOUT THAT CUSTOMIZATION TO THIS DIFFERENT TYPE OF MODEL.

I WILL SAY THOUGH THAT I'M NOT LOOKING TO EXPAND IT RIGHT NOW EITHER.

LET'S GET MORE DATA FROM WHAT IT IS, AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO INVESTIGATE MORE THE ELEVATED BIKE LANES BECAUSE THAT REALLY SEEMS LIKE THE SOLUTION HERE THAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING FOR RATHER THAN JUST PULLING UP AND MOVING BACKWARDS.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EXPANSION FROM THE CORRIDOR WHERE WE ALREADY PUT THOSE CURVES IN, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE ELEVATED BIKE LANES WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE REST OF THE STRETCH OF BUTLER BETWEEN SAWMILL AND PONDEROSA PARKWAY.

IS THAT FEASIBLE? WHAT WOULD IT COST TO GET THE BICYCLES OFF THE ROAD FOR THAT STRETCH RATHER THAN PULLING CURBS AND DOUBLE PAINT STRIPING? THAT'S WHERE I'M AT AND I THINK THAT TOUCHES ON WHAT COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI WAS LOOKING AT.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SPEED LIMIT POTENTIAL FOR REDUCTION IN THAT STRETCH.

WHAT WOULD THAT TAKE? I KNOW WE HAVE CODES, WE HAVE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS TO DEAL WITH THAT, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE MORE INFORMATION IN THAT PARTICULAR SUGGESTION BEFORE I CAN FULLY SUPPORT OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT.

OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WILL MAKE A CONFESSION AT THE BEGINNING OF MY COMMENTS THAT I AM NOT A BICYCLIST.

THERE ARE REASONS FOR THAT, AND I WON'T GO INTO [LAUGHTER] THEM NOW, BUT I'M ONE OF THOSE PESKY PEOPLE THAT RELIES ON A VEHICLE FOR TRANSPORTATION.

HOWEVER, I KNOW THAT BECAUSE IN LOOKING AT THE SURVEY AND LOOKING AT THESE OPTIONS FOR THESE STRETCHES OF ROADS, AS A MOTORIST, MY RECOMMENDATION IN MY COMMENT AS A CITIZEN WAS TO EXPAND, NOT TO DRAW BACK THESE BIKE LANES.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF NECESSARILY BEING EASY TO NAVIGATE THE ROADWAYS DRIVING ALONGSIDE OF THEM, BUT BECAUSE I FEEL THAT SENSE OF INCREASED SAFETY IN KNOWING THAT THERE'S THAT DISTINCT SEPARATION BETWEEN MYSELF AND SOMEONE WHO IS RIDING THEIR BICYCLE IN THAT LANE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE TO TAKE A ROADWAY WHERE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY FEELING UNSAFE AND REMOVE A STRUCTURE THAT IS INCREASING THE LIKELIHOOD OF SAFETY ON THOSE ROADS.

I KNOW IT'S CHALLENGING.

IT'S ONE OF THE MAIN ROADWAYS THAT I HAVE TO TRAVEL FREQUENTLY.

I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT BOTH AS A BIKER AND AS A MOTORIST.

BUT I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS NOT TO GO BACKWARDS, BUT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MORE EFFECTIVELY GO FORWARD.

I'M DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN PURSUING THAT OPTION OF THE ELEVATED LANE.

THERE'S SO MUCH BENEFIT TO THAT.

NOT LEAST OF ALL [NOISE] IS THE FACT THAT IT SEEMS TO BE A RECOMMENDATION THAT MAKES THOSE WHO ARE RIDING THEIR BICYCLES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR FEEL A LOT SAFER.

IT INCREASES THEIR VISIBILITY.

I BELIEVE WOULD DIMINISH SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE PRESENTED IN THAT AREA.

I FULLY SUPPORT THAT IDEA.

AGAIN, I'LL JUST REITERATE THAT.

AS FAR AS COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI'S RECOMMENDATION OF EXPANDING THE PROGRAM, I WANT TO LOOK TOWARDS THAT AS AN OPTION.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT WOULD BE MY DIRECTION NOW THAT LET'S EXPAND IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT BACK.

I CERTAINLY WANT TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN INCREASE ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT OUR CITY TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE

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THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE. COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. IDEALLY, WE WOULD HAVE REAL SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BICYCLES AND CARS.

ELEVATED BIKE WAYS OR WHATEVER.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PRACTICAL FOR BUTLER BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT IF WE DO IT IN AN IDEALIZED WAY, WE WOULD NEED MORE LAND, WHICH ISN'T READILY AVAILABLE.

THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS WOULD BE VERY SIGNIFICANT [NOISE].

HOWEVER, WHEN WE'RE DOING NEW ROADS LIKE EAST BUTLER OVER BY FOREST STREET, WE'VE PROBABLY DEFINITELY SHOULD DO THAT AND INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE IT'S A NEW ROAD AND IT'S WAY MORE PRACTICAL TO BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING A NEW ROAD COMPARED TO TRY TO RETROFIT A ROAD THROUGH A VERY CROWDED PART OF TOWN.

I'LL GO WITH WHATEVER THE COUNCIL DECIDES.

BUT MY FEELING IS THAT WE SHOULD TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, WHICH MEANS DELETE THE CURBS AND THE DELINEATORS AND TO INSTALL A BUFFERED BIKE LANE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN BUTLER AND THEN LEAVE FURTHER RECOMMENDATION, LEAVE BEAVER THE WAY IT IS. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MCCARTHY.

COUNCILMEMBER [INAUDIBLE].

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, I'M GOING TO PROVIDE A SPACE FOR GRATITUDE AND PROFOUND ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE WORK THAT STAFF AND MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS HAVE PUT INTO THIS PILOT PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE WORK THAT OUR COMMISSIONS HAVE DEDICATED TO PROVIDE INPUT AND EXPERTISE IN TO THIS MATTER.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, FACTS, AND FIGURES.

THE TOTAL COST IS 1,062,294.

I JUST ADDED THAT THE BOBCAT THAT HAVE BEEN ORDERED BUT HAVE NOT BEEN DELIVERED YET, THAT'S FOR SNOW REMOVAL SPECIFIC TO THE TWO BOBCAT SPECIFIC TO REMOVING SNOW ON THE SEPARATED BIKE LANES.

THEN IN TERMS OF BICYCLE VOLUME, THE HIGHEST NUMBER IN BUTLER IS 78, AND THE HIGHEST NUMBER ON BEAVER IS 83.

I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT IT IS NOT COUNCIL'S PURVIEW TO POINT FINGERS OR FINDING MISTAKES.

THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM, IT'S A HUGE LEARNING CURVE AND I TRUST THAT STAFF AND STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN DEVELOPING THIS PILOT PROJECT HAVE DID THEIR UTMOST EXCELLENCE IN DELIVERING THIS PILOT PROJECT.

WHEN IT COMES TO REDUCING SPEED ON BUTLER, THIS CONVERSATION NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH OUR PARTNER ADOT AS IT IMPACTS ADOT'S RIGHT OF WAY AND ADOT'S ROADWAY.

I SAID BUTLER FITS INTO MILTON ROUTE 66 AND I40 AND I17.

AS WE KNOW THAT BUTLER IS A MAJOR ARTILLERY ROADWAY.

WELL, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY IS THAT IDEALLY, AND OF COURSE, AS WE WORK ON OUR FUTURE PROJECTS, AS WE BUILD STREETS AND ROADWAYS, IT IS IDEAL THAT WE DELIVER COMPLETE STREETS WITH SAFE PEDESTRIAN, SEPARATED BICYCLE LANE, AND OF COURSE, A TURNING LANE AND A LANE FOR A TRANSIT ALONG WITH VEHICLE MOVEMENT.

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>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SALAS. COUNCILMEMBER ASLAN.

>> THANK YOU, WOW THIS IS INTERESTING.

FROM MY ACCOUNT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE AT A 3,3 CROSSROADS HERE.

I WAS HOPING TO WEIGH IN A FEW MINUTES AGO, BUT THAT'S FINE.

I DON'T MIND BREAKING THE TIE HERE.

MY SENSIBILITIES SIDE WITH COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI, MAYOR DEASY AND COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE ON THIS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE US PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFORT INTO GATHERING THE DATA WE NEED.

I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'VE ORDERED THAT'S BEEN BACKLOGGED.

I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME FOR THE DRIVING PUBLIC, AND THE RIDING PUBLIC TO SETTLE INTO THE NOVELTY OF THIS PILOT PROGRAM.

I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THAT POINT TOO MUCH.

I DO REALLY ENJOY THE THOUGHT OF EXPLORING ELEVATED ROADWAY OR BIKE LANES THROUGH THERE AS A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION.

BUT I DO WANT TO BACKUP FOR A SECOND AND I JUST WANT TO REALLY APPLAUD CITY STAFF, LEADERSHIP, AND CITY EMPLOYEES WHO JUMPED ON IMPLEMENTING THIS PILOT PROGRAM WITHOUT COMPLAINT AND WITH JUST A REAL CAN-DO ATTITUDE AND A SPIRIT OF CURIOSITY AND WITH THE BEST OF INTENTIONS IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE OUTCOME.

I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT IS FROM CITY STAFF.

OBVIOUSLY I'M SIDING WITH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO THINK WE NEED TO STAY THE COURSE HERE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN ULTIMATELY I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THESE OBSTRUCTIONS AT THESE CURBS AT THE END OF THE PROJECT.

I WANT TO MAINTAIN OBJECTIVITY AND MY RIGHT TO A FINAL DECISION AT THAT TIME BUT I THINK WE NEED TO STAY THE COURSE HERE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, GET MORE DATA, GIVE THE PUBLIC A CHANCE TO SETTLE INTO THIS.

ULTIMATELY WHAT THIS COMES DOWN TO IS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SENTIMENT THAT WHAT WE'RE DISCOVERING HERE IS THAT DRIVERS ON BUTLER ARE NOT TAKING BICYCLE SAFETY INTO THE FOREFRONT OF THEIR MINDS, THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE AS RESPONSIBLE DRIVERS.

THE DAMAGE TO THESE CURBS IS EVIDENCE OF THAT.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE MOVING FORWARD AND NOT SETTLING FOR SOME RETREAT ON THIS.

IT'S VERY NICE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THIS PILOT AND I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING POSITIVE COME OUT OF IT.

THE FACT IS WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

I DON'T THINK RETREATING INTO A STATUS QUO REALLY IS VERY HELPFUL.

I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY AS WELL, THAT IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE IMPLEMENT THE RIGHT DESIGN WHENEVER WE BUILD NEW ROADS FROM HERE ON OUT.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THESE CHALLENGES AND SOLVE THESE PUZZLES LATER ON AND WE DON'T LEAVE THOSE PROBLEMS FOR OTHER COUNCILS TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT.

BUTLER'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT ROUTE FOR BOTH CARS AND CYCLISTS.

WE OWE IT TO FUTURE CYCLISTS AND COMMUTERS OF ALL TYPES TO FIND THE PROPER SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH A CONTINUED LOW LEVEL INVESTMENT IN THIS PILOT PROJECT.

JUST TO STATE THE CAUSE FOR NOW.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN RANSOM, ALSO COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A MAJORITY THAT WANTS TO STAY THE COURSE, SO TO SPEAK AND I ACCEPT THAT.

I HAVE ANOTHER IDEA.

I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER TO THIS IMMEDIATELY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER ROADS AROUND TOWN WHERE WE MIGHT TRY A DIFFERENT ROAD?

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ADD A NEW EXPERIMENT WHERE WE INSTALL BUFFERED BIKE LANES, THE EXPENSE WILL BE PRETTY MINOR, IT'S JUST PAINT.

IT MIGHT GIVE US SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THAT OPTION, OR DO WE HAVE ANY STREETS RIGHT NOW WITH BUFFERED BIKE LANES? IF NOT, MAYBE WE COULD TRY IT.

AGAIN, I DON'T NEED THE ANSWER RIGHT NOW, BUT MAYBE WE COULD TRY A BUFFERED BIKE LANES ON ANOTHER STREET AND SEE WHAT EXPERIENCE WE HAVE. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY.

I LIKE THAT THINKING TO GIVE MORE COMPARATIVE CASES TO.

>> THE WHOLE IDEA HERE IS TO GO OUT AND GET MORE EXPERIENCE, MORE DATA, MORE INFORMATION, AND I THINK THAT WOULD MAYBE ACCOMPLISH THAT.

>> THAT'S WORTHY OF DISCUSSION ON THAT AND ONE THING JUST CAME TO MIND WHEN YOU SAID THAT WAS CEDAR AVENUE, BUT JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE, BAUMANN, IF YOU WANTED TO COME UP.

>> THANKS. I MEAN, WE HAD SUGGESTED BUTLER AVENUE JUST CONTINUING DOING BUFFERED BIKE LANES FROM SAWMILL TO PONDEROSA PARKWAY THAT WE THINK THAT'S VERY FEASIBLE THERE, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT THE MEDIAN.

THAT'D BE MY FIRST SUGGESTION.

I KNOW MARTIN HAS BEEN WORKING ON, AS HE MENTIONED SHORT-TERM PROJECTS, SO HE HAS SOME OTHER IDEAS AS WELL, BUT THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT WE'VE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SHIMONI.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA.

IF WE HAD THE TWO PARALLEL, LET'S SAY WE HAD A PROTECTIVE BIKE LANE AND THEN IT WENT INTO A BUFFERED BIKE LANE.

WE CAN REALLY GET A SENSE FOR WHERE THE COMMUNITY FEELS ABOUT THE TWO, IN A DIFFERENT COMFORT LEVELS.

BUT MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE COMMENTS AND THE SUPPORT FOR THESE BIKE LANES.

I WAS REALLY CONCERNED COMING INTO THIS MEETING, AND THAT WE MIGHT BE REMOVING THE NATURE TODAY.

I'M JUST GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE NOT AND THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM ANOTHER CHANCE.

I HOPE STAFF CAN GET BEHIND THEM AND START BRINGING FORWARD POSITIVE SOLUTIONS TO MAKING THEM BETTER, RATHER THAN GOING BACK TO THE STATUS AS FAR AS OTHERS MENTIONED.

I THINK THERE WAS A MAJORITY FOR A LOT OF THESE POINTS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK NOW REALLY QUICK.

I LOVE TO SEE US ACTUALLY DO SOME BETTER EDUCATION AND THEY'LL, SARAH LANGLEY HAS BEEN WORKING ON VIDEOS, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYTHING HAS BEEN PRODUCED YET.

BOTH VIDEOS AND POSTING, EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ABOUT HOW TO BEST UTILIZE THESE TYPES OF QUARTERS.

I THINK WE NEED BETTER SIGNAGE AGAIN TO IMPROVE COMFORT AND SAFETY.

I LOVE THAT I HEARD MAJORITY SUPPORT FOR EXPLORING THE ELEVATED OPTION.

JEFF, LET'S DO IT.

LET'S FIND OUT SOME DETAILS ON NUMBERS AND GET LOT OF THAT PRODUCT TO BE PART OF THE NEXT CONVERSATION IS.

WAS THAT AN OPTION LOOK LIKE WHAT IS THAT COST? WHAT ARE THE COMPLICATIONS ETC.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A MAJORITY SUPPORT FOR THE SPEED REDUCTION, BUT I'LL REMIND US THAT WAS PART OF A PETITION WITH 1000 SIGNATURES ARE CLOSE TO 1000 SIGNATURES.

SO JEFF, I'D LOVE FOR THAT TO BE PART OF THE FUTURE DISCUSSION AS WELL AS AT LEAST WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE ABOUT REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT TO 25.

BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REAL WIN-WIN FOR THE DRIVERS AND THE CYCLERS.

IF WE DID REDUCE THE SPEED TO 25, ENTER THE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON A PROMISE THAT THIS CONDITION ASKS US TO DO.

THEN IN TERMS OF NEW EXPERIMENTS, FOLKS ARE TALKING ABOUT COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY, I LOVE THAT YOU'RE THINKING AHEAD AND COUNCILMAN HAUS AND OTHERS.

I'LL JUST REMIND YOU ALL THAT WE FUNDED TO DESIGN EFFORTS, ONE ON FOUR STREETS AND ONE ON REORDERING TO BE A PARALLEL TO MILTON.

WE FUNDED THAT THROUGH PLANTING MONEY TO SO THIS NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE DESIGNING THOSE TWO CORRIDORS.

I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST REALLY A MATTER OF PAINTS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE AND POLITICAL WILL.

WE'RE RIGHT ON TRACK TO GETTING THOSE DONE NEXT SNARE, I LOVE YOUR IDEA ABOUT CEDAR, BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT FOURTH AND REWARDING ALREADY FUNDED IN TERMS OF DESIGN WORK. LET'S SEE THAT THROUGH.

THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY EASY, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TO STEPH AND EVERYBODY FOR SUPPORTING THIS AND TAKING THIS TO THAT NEXT LEVEL.

AS A CYCLIST, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE IT AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING SOME BETTER QUALITY MAINTENANCE OF THAT COURT ORDER.

SAM, THANK THE TEAM FOR ME AND THANK YOU, SAM AND SCOTT FOR TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY AND PRIORITIZING US, THE CYCLISTS AND THE PEDESTRIAN, AND NOT JUST THE VEHICLE AND THE MAINTENANCE WE DO ON OUR STREETS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BUSH SHIMONI.

WITHOUT ANY FURTHER COMMENTARY BEFORE WE TAKE A BREAK?

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7:45, BE BACK HERE, 15 MINUTES.

>> WELL, THANK YOU.

WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 11, THE GREATER OBSERVATORY,

[11. Greater Observatory Mesa Area Trail Plan and Public Outreach Commencement To provide City Council with the opportunity to contribute feedback on the draft Greater Observatory Mesa Trail Plan and its accompanying public outreach opportunities.]

TAKE US AWAY ROBERT.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M ROBERT WALLACE AND I WORK AS THE OPEN SPACES SPECIALISTS FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

I'M HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE OBSERVATORY MESA TRIAL PLAN.

I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT SEVERAL PARTNERS THAT HELPED US GET TO THIS POINT ARE HERE WITH US TONIGHT.

IN CASE THE COUNSELOR DOES HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF THEM.

THAT INCLUDES THE AMERICAN CONSERVATION EXPERIENCE, LAW OBSERVATORY, THE COOKING IN ON NATIONAL FOREST, THE OPEN SPACES COMMISSION, AND THE FLAKES TO HAVE TURTLES INITIATIVE.

SO A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL OF THEM TO HELP THEM GET, GET US TO THIS POINT TONIGHT WHERE OUR PRESENTATION MARKS THE BEGINNING OF OUR PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE OBSERVATORY MESA TRIAL PLAN.

THE TOPICS THAT I'LL SPEAK ABOUT TONIGHT DURING THE PRESENTATION IS WHAT LOCATION THE PLAN ADDRESSES, WHY THE PLAN WAS CREATED, HOW THE PLAN WAS CREATED, AND HOW IT ADDRESSES PRESERVATION AND RECREATION.

WHAT THE PLAN PROPOSES AND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE INCLUDING WHEN AND HOW THE PUBLIC CAN TAKE PART IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FINAL VERSION OF THE PLAN.

AN OPPORTUNITY THIS AFTERNOON OR THIS EVENING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK.

WHAT DOSE THE PLAN CONSIST OF? THE OPEN SPACE PROGRAM HAS WORKED WITH PARTNERS TO DEVELOP THE FIRST DRAFT OF WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE GREATER OBSERVATORY MESA DRAFT TRAIL PLAN.

THE PROPOSAL PROVIDES POTENTIAL DIRECTION FOR MANAGING PROPERTY FOR RECREATION AND PRESERVATION.

THE LOCATION OF THE PLAN FOCUSES ON THE CITIES REGIONAL PRESERVE, OBSERVATORY MESA NATURAL AREA.

THAT'S THE AREA IN THE BRIGHT GREEN THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE MAP THERE.

THIS IS THE CITY'S LARGEST OPEN SPACE PRESERVE, AROUND 2,200 ACRES.

IT ALSO OFFERS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, PRIMARILY ADDRESSING LOWELL OBSERVATORY PRIVATE PROPERTY, THE AREA THAT YOU SEE THERE IN BLUE AND A BUDDING COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST, THE DARKER GREEN COLOR THAT YOU SEE IN THE MAP.

AS YOU HOPEFULLY CAN SEE ON THE MAP, THE FOCUS AREA IS THE LOCATION JUST WEST OF WHERE THORPE PARK IS LOCATED.

BECAUSE OF THE OBSERVATORY MESA NATURAL AREA'S LOCATION, IT DOES HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO SERVE NUMEROUS NEIGHBORHOODS.

WHY WAS THIS PLAN CREATED.

IN 2013 VOTER APPROVED FUNDS WERE USED AS A MATCH FOR THE ARIZONA GROWING SMARTER GRANT AND THE CITY THUS OWNS THE OBSERVATORY MESA NATURAL AREA.

BUT BECAUSE GRANT FUNDS WERE UTILIZED TO PURCHASE THE ACREAGE, A GRANT AGREEMENT WAS BESTOWED TO THE ARIZONA STATE PARKS AND BESTOWED THEM A CONSERVATION EASEMENT OVER THE PROPERTY.

THIS REQUIRES THAT THE ACREAGE BE RETAINED FOREVER AS CONSERVATION LAND AND REQUIRES THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF TO PROVIDE THE RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN AND PERMIT ENGAGEMENT IN RECREATIONAL USES OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS PLAN WAS THUS DRAFTED TO SUPPORT THOSE AGREED UPON AGREEMENTS.

FURTHERMORE, THE FLAGSTAFF TRAILS INITIATIVE COMPLETED A PUBLIC SURVEY TO GARNER PUBLIC FEEDBACK ON THE FLAGSTAFF TRAILS TO DEVELOP THEIR BROADER REGIONAL TRAIL STRATEGY.

PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE COMPILED AND EVALUATED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC'S RELATIONSHIP TO THE OUTDOOR RECREATION IN FLAGSTAFF.

OF THE 1700 COMMENTS RECEIVED, 120 OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE ABOUT THE OBSERVATORY MESA AREA.

THOSE WERE DISTILLED BY FDI INTO THE FOLLOWING FIVE RECOMMENDATIONS : TO CONSTRUCT A NEW STACKED LOOP SYSTEM ON THE OBSERVATORY MESA ACCESSIBLE FROM THE DOWNTOWN FLAGSTAFF AND THORPE PARK TO HELP ADDRESS LOCAL DEMAND AND UNAUTHORIZED TRAILS, TO CONNECT FORT VALLEY AND OBSERVATORY MESA TO HELP LINK THE TWO POPULAR AREAS, TO ADOPT UNAUTHORIZED TRAILS ON LOWELL OBSERVATORY PROPERTY AS PART OF THE OBSERVATORY MESA SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT, TO EVALUATE UNAUTHORIZED TRAILS ON OBSERVATORY MESA FOR CLOSURE AND RESTORATION, TO REDUCE IMPACTS AND REDUCE REDUNDANCY, AND TO CONNECT THE FORT VALLEY AREA WITH A FUTS COMMUTER ROUTE ON OBSERVATORY MESA THAT PARTIALLY USES EXISTING ROUTES.

A HIGH LEVEL OF INTEREST IN OBSERVATORY MESA WAS EXPRESSED BY THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THIS IS REFLECTED IN THOSE PRIORITIZED RECOMMENDATIONS BY FDI AND THE PLAN THAT YOU ARE REVIEWING TONIGHT.

OUR FIRST STEP IN DRAFTING THE PROPOSAL WAS TO CONDUCT A CURRENT CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF THE CITY'S PROPERTY.

THE ASSESSMENT INCLUDED ANALYZING EXISTING PARKING ROADS,

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DURING THIS ASSESSMENT, IT DID BECOME APPARENT THAT THE MANAGEMENT OF THE CITY'S OPEN SPACE IS RATHER DIFFICULT TO SEPARATE WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE NEIGHBORING LANDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING USED BY THE PUBLIC FOR RECREATION AND AS ACCESS QUARTERS TO THE OBSERVATORY MESA NATURAL AREA.

THUS, IN ADDITION TO THE OBSERVATORY MESA NATURAL AREA, THE PLAN ALSO MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING PRIVATE LOWELL OBSERVATORY PROPERTY, AND COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST PROPERTY.

AS WE KNOW, LOWELL OBSERVATORY IS PRIVATELY OWNED AND OPERATED AND SECTION 17 WAS DEEDED TO LOWELL IN 1910 BY THE US FOREST SERVICE, AND THOUGH THE PRIMARY MISSION OF LOWELL OBSERVATORY IS TO PURSUE THE STUDY OF ASTRONOMY AND TO PROVIDE ASTRONOMICAL EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THE OBSERVATORY HAS ALWAYS PERMITTED WALKERS AND BIKERS TO ENJOY ITS PROPERTY.

THE OBSERVATORY IS INTERESTED IN RETAINING SUBSTANTIAL UNDEVELOPED SPACE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THEIR CAMPUS AND THE COMMUNITY.

WITH THIS GOAL, LOWELL OBSERVATORY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY TO INCLUDE A LOWELL OBSERVATORY TRAIL SYSTEMS OR LOTS ON THE PRIVATELY OWNED SECTION 17 THAT WOULD COMPLEMENT THE OVERALL PLAN.

THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS PROPOSAL.

JUST FOR CLARITY I'LL STAY HERE THAT BECAUSE OF THE 1910 ACT OF CONGRESS DEEDING SECTION 17 TO LOWELL OBSERVATORY, THE PROPERTY DOES HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON LAND USE TYPES AND LOWELL CANNOT GUARANTEE ANY TRAIL RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS REPORT TO BE PERMANENT IMPROVEMENTS OF THEIR PROPERTY.

HOWEVER, THEY CERTAINLY ARE EXCITED TO BE WORKING WITH US AND ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING THE COMMUNITY'S FEEDBACK ON THIS.

THE COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST 2018 FOREST LAND AND RESOURCE MANAGEMENT PLAN, GENERALLY JUST KNOWN AS THE FOREST PLAN, PROVIDES DIRECTION FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THE FOREST SURROUNDING FLAGSTAFF.

THE FOREST PLAN PROVIDES INTEGRATED MULTI-USE AND SUSTAINABLE YIELD OF GOODS AND SERVICES FROM THE FOREST TO MAXIMIZE THE LONG-TERM NET PUBLIC BENEFITS IN ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND MANNER.

FOLLOWING THE FOREST SERVICE DIRECTIVES, THE COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST IS SUPPORTING THIS PLAN BY REVIEWING THE DRAFT AND POTENTIALLY APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF TRAILS ACROSS JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES.

BECAUSE THIS PLAN LAYS OUT POSSIBLE GOALS FOR BOTH FEDERAL AND PRIVATE PROPERTY IN ADDITION TO CITY PROPERTY AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND START TO SOLIDIFY THE DETAILS OF THIS PLAN WITH PUBLIC INPUT, THE FINAL PLAN WILL STILL REQUIRE SOME CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FLEXIBILITY TO ACCOMMODATE OTHER MANAGEMENT PRIORITIES.

THE AREA CURRENTLY RECEIVES AROUND 20-30,000 VISITORS PER YEAR AND OFFERS A BROAD ARRAY OF RECREATION.

CURRENT USE INCLUDES ONLY 5.8 MILES OF FORMAL TRAIL, PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE CITY'S 2200 ACRES.

ALTHOUGH THE AREA RECEIVES SUBSTANTIAL RECREATION USE DUE TO ITS PROXIMITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND DOWNTOWN AREA, IT DOES HAVE LIMITED TRAILS.

IN ADDITION, THE SITE IS HEAVILY USED BY THE BROADER FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY AS WELL.

THE CURRENT DESIGNATED TRAIL SYSTEM PROVIDES MINIMAL ACCESS TO ONLY TWO OUT OF THE FOUR SECTIONS OWNED BY THE CITY.

AS A RESULT, THE AREA DOES SHOW FACTS OF UNMANAGED RECREATION AND PUBLIC USE, INCLUDING VISIBLE SIGNS OF DETERIORATION AND DEGRADATION, SUCH AS THE PROLIFERATION OF USER-CREATED TRAILS, OFF-ROAD VEHICLE DAMAGE, AND TRAIL WIDTH EXPANSION.

IN 2019 TO 2021, A COMPREHENSIVE SURVEY OF THE AREA IDENTIFIED APPROXIMATELY 15 MILES OF USER-CREATED UNAUTHORIZED TRAILS.

THESE LEGAL TRAILS CREATED REALLY FROM THE DESIRE OF RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES CAN BE HIGHLY IMPACTFUL TO SENSITIVE RESOURCES AND ALSO CAN BE CONFUSING FOR USERS AS WELL.

HERE WE HAVE A MAP THAT SUMMARIZE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE AREA.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE UNAUTHORIZED TRAIL AND ABANDONED ROADS REALLY FORMS A CONVOLUTED NETWORK OF PATHS IN THIS AREA.

AFTER INITIAL CONDITION ANALYSIS WAS COMPLETED, THIS DRAFT PLAN WAS DEVELOPED WITH EXTREME THOUGHT AND CARE.

WE ARE AWARE THAT THIS IS A LOCATION THAT, IT REALLY IS AN AMAZING ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE DO WANT TO BE SURE THAT THE TRIO PROJECT INSURES ITS PROTECTION AND PERPETUITY.

THE PLAN DRAFT ATTEMPTS TO REALLY, TO ACCOMPLISH TWO MAIN THINGS.

TO IDENTIFY STRATEGIES THAT WILL BENEFIT THE PRESERVATION OF THE AREA AND WILDLIFE THAT USE THE LOCATION AND INCORPORATE THOSE STRATEGIES INTO THE DRAFT PROCESS.

TO PROPOSE A TRAIL SYSTEM DESIGN FOR IMPLEMENTATION IN THE OBSERVATORY MESA NATURAL AREA IN ADJACENT PROPERTIES OWNED BY LOWELL OBSERVATORY AND COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST.

DURING OUR ASSESSMENT TO IDENTIFY STRATEGIES FOR PRESERVATION OF THE AREA, WE DID ANALYZE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS,

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WE LOOKED AT SENSITIVE SPECIES, EXAMINED CULTURAL RESOURCES, EVALUATED THE ARIZONA PARKS CONSERVATION EASEMENT REQUIREMENTS, AND OF COURSE OUR OPEN SPACE DIRECTIVES AS WELL.

THEREFORE, THIS DRAFT DOES PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON THE SELECTION OF SUSTAINABLE ALIGNMENTS.

THE NATURALIZATION OF DISTURBED AREAS AND UNAUTHORIZED TRAILS, NOT ADOPTED INTO THE SYSTEM, THAT INCLUDES RESEEDING AND INVASIVE PLANT MANAGEMENT AS WELL.

APPROPRIATE USES OF THE FINAL COMPLETED TRAIL SYSTEM WILL INCLUDE PASSIVE RECREATION, WHICH INCLUDES BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO; WALKING, HIKING, BICYCLING, HORSEBACK RIDING, WILDLIFE VIEWING, EDUCATION, AND PICNICKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE MOTORIZED VEHICLE USE.

WE ALSO TRIED TO AVOID ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE AREAS, INCLUDING NORTHERN GOSHAWK POST FLEDGLING AREAS.

THE WOODY RIDGE WILDLIFE CORRIDOR.

WE PLACED A 500 FOOT BUFFER AROUND SPRINGS, A 250 FOOT BUFFER AROUND STOCK TANKS, AND A 500 FOOT BUFFER AROUND ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES, INCLUDING SITES THAT ARE JUST ISOLATED OCCURRENCES.

WHAT'S PROPOSED IN THE TRIAL SYSTEM INFRASTRUCTURE? IN SUMMARY, THIS DRAFT INCLUDES RECOMMENDED REPAIRS FOR EXISTING DESIGNATED TRAILS, RESTORATION OF ABOUT EIGHT MILES OF UNAUTHORIZED TRAILS, OR RE-NATURALIZATION.

NATURALLY, WE HAVE ABANDONED ROADS.

IT RECOMMENDS AN ADDITION OF ABOUT EIGHT MORE FORMAL ACCESS POINTS, WHICH WILL RESULT IN A TOTAL OF 12 ACCESS POINTS.

HOPEFULLY HELPING THE CITY TO MOVE TOWARDS ACCOMPLISHING THE CITY'S GOAL OF PROVIDING A 10-MINUTE WALKING ACCESS TIME TO OPEN SPACE FOR ALL RESIDENTS.

IT RECOMMENDS APPROXIMATELY 26 MILES OF IDENTIFIED ALIGNMENTS FOR A NATURAL SURFACE SINGLE TRACK TRAIL FOR VARIED RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.

IT MAKES SUGGESTIONS FOR ADA TRAIL ALIGNMENTS.

IT RECOMMENDS ADAPTIVE MOUNTAIN BIKING ROUTES.

IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE INSTALLATION OF TRAIL SIGNAGE FOR THE PURPOSE OF INFORMING USERS OF REGULATIONS AND PROVIDING WAY-FINDING ASSISTANCE.

THEN IT DOES TALK ABOUT ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS IN TWO LOCATIONS, ONE AT THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF FOREST SERVICE ROAD 515, AND A SECOND ALONG ROUTE 66, NEAR WHERE THE PUBLIC WORKS YARD IS CURRENTLY LOCATED.

WITH A BASIC VISITOR AMENITIES SUCH AS RESTROOM AND TRASH SERVICE BEING PROVIDED AT THE ROUTE 66 TRAIL HEAD LOCATION.

FINALLY, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF POTENTIALLY TWO EDUCATIONAL ZONES TO BE CONSIDERED FOR INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE, FOR THE PURPOSE OF INCREASING STUDENT AND ADULT AWARENESS OF ENVIRONMENTAL, CULTURAL, AND HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCES.

THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE DIVIDED UP INTO THREE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES, WITH THE IDEA THAT PRIORITY 1 WILL BE IMPLEMENTED FIRST AND THEN BE FOLLOWED BY PRIORITY 2 AND 3 AS FUNDING IS SECURED.

I'LL JUST FLIP THROUGH THESE MAPS, HERE YOU CAN SEE PRIORITY 1, WHICH IS PRIMARILY LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING TRAILS IN SECTION 8, 17 AND 18.

HERE IS PRIORITY 2, WHICH IS FOCUSING ON SECTION 7 THERE, AND THEN SECTION 12 AND 13.

PRIORITY 3, WHICH IS MAINLY LOOKING AT PROVIDING A CONNECTOR OVER TO THE FORT VALLEY TRAIL SYSTEM.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THE OVERALL PROPOSED SYSTEM THERE, NEXT TO WHAT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS HERE ARE.

WE THINK IT'S DEFINITELY AN IMPROVEMENT.

WE'RE ENCOURAGING THE PUBLIC TO TAKE PART IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FINAL PLAN.

WE DEVELOPED THIS FIRST DRAFT AS A STARTING POINT TO OPEN UP DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY AND OUR PARTNERS SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT PROPERTY IS PRESERVED AND ALSO WHILE OFFERING EXCEPTIONAL RECREATIONAL EXPERIENCES.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE PARTNERS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT WILL HOPEFULLY PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK.

HERE'S OUR TIMELINE AND NEXT STEPS FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD THAT IS OPENING TODAY, AND WE'LL RUN THROUGH JULY 24TH.

IT'S A 40 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

THAT WILL BE COUPLED WITH ONE PUBLIC MEETING HELD HERE ON THE 29TH OF THIS MONTH.

THEN THE PLAN WILL BE TAKEN BACK AND RETOOLED WITH THOSE SUGGESTED REVISIONS.

WE'LL HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, POTENTIALLY FROM AUGUST 8TH THROUGH SEPTEMBER 9TH, ANOTHER 40 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD,

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THEN THE PLAN WILL HAVE FINAL REVISIONS DURING THAT TIME.

THEN WE WILL PRESENT A FINAL PROPOSAL FOR REVIEW BY THE COMMUNITY THAT INCLUDES THOSE COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.

IN SUMMARY, TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC TO CREATE A FINAL PLAN.

THE GOAL OF THE FINAL PLAN IS TO ENSURE THAT RESOURCES ARE PROTECTED, TO ENSURE TRAIL ALIGNMENTS WITH ALL GUIDING DOCUMENTS.

WE WILL PROVIDE PROPOSED ACTIONS FOR FACILITY DEVELOPMENT, NATURALIZATION SIGNAGE AND EDUCATIONAL ZONES.

ONCE THE PLAN IS COMPLETE, WE'LL BEGIN APPLYING FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL SUPPORT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

YOU CAN SEE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT THERE, FOR FIRST MEETING AND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> THANK YOU, ROBIN. COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY.

>> I HAVE ONE SUGGESTION, AND ONE QUESTION.

I GUESS I'LL ASKED THE QUESTION FIRST.

WILL THERE BE SOME TRAILS OR WILL BE BICYCLE PRIMARILY AND MAYBE OTHER TRAILS THAT WILL BE PEDESTRIAN AND NO BICYCLES OR WILL ALL TRAILS ALLOW ALL MODES?

>> AT THIS POINT, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL MODES OF USE AND ALL TRAILS, PASSIVE USE THAT IS.

WE HAVE NOT DESIGNATED IN THIS DRAFT PLAN SPECIFIC TRAILS FOR BIKES OR PEDESTRIANS, BUT THAT COULD BE A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE COULD CONSIDER.

MOST OF THE TRAIL ALIGNMENTS ARE EASY TO MODERATE AS WELL.

I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THE MESA REALLY LENDS ITSELF TO ADVANCED MOUNTAIN BIKING TRAILS.

>> OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

MY SUGGESTION IS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS IN THE PACKET, IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND.

I DO QUITE A BIT OF HIKING UP THERE ACTUALLY.

MAYBE YOU CAN PUT SOME LANDMARKS IN.

LIKE LABEL WHERE THE MARS HILL TRAIL IS, OR LABEL WHERE THE DOG PARK IS SO THAT WHEN I'M JUST LOOKING AT A BUNCH OF LINES ON A MAP THEY MEAN SOMETHING TO ME.

THAT'S A SUGGESTION I HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY. MY APOLOGIES.

WE DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENTER THAT I'LL LIKE TO TAKE BEFORE WE HAVE THE REST OF COUNSEL IN. DEBBIE MCMAHON.

>> HI.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS DEBBIE MCMAHON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR HEARING ME.

I AM THE ON FLAGSTAFF TRAIL INITIATIVE, AND I'M LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW, SO THAT'S GREAT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR FLAGSTAFF TRAIL INITIATIVE, FTI AS WE LIKE TO CALL IT.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY WITH YOUR PARKS, YOUR RECREATION, YOUR FLAGSTAFF URBAN TRAIL SYSTEM AND OF COURSE, THE OPEN SPACE.

FLAGSTAFF TRAIL INITIATIVE IS HERE TO ASSIST THE CITY WITH YOUR PUBLIC SESSIONS CONCERNING THE GREAT OBSERVATORY MESA TRAIL PLAN, AS WITH ANY OF YOUR CITY, PUBLIC OUTREACH SESSIONS CONCERNING THE TRAIL SYSTEM.

FTI VALUES OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, AND WE FULLY SUPPORT THE GREATER OBSERVATORY MESA TRIAL PLAN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, DEBBIE. ALL RIGHT WITH THAT, FURTHER QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? I'M NOT SEEING ANY AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK, ROBERT AND TO THE FLAGSTAFF TRAIL INITIATIVE FOR HELPING OUT THROUGH ALL THIS PROCESS.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANKS VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 12;

[12. Vintage Partners' Proposed 4th Amendment to the Timber Sky Annexation and Development Agreement Discussion and Direction]

>> JUST DO IT MY WAY. OH NO, JUST POP IT.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT, SO I'LL TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.

I DO HAVE SOME INTRODUCTORY BACKGROUND SLIDES.

I WON'T REALLY GO THROUGH THEM TOO MUCH.

JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK THROUGH SOME OF THAT BACKGROUND,

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JUST THAT LITTLE HISTORY, THAT SUMMARY OF WHAT TIMBER SKY IS.

HERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

IT IS A MINIMUM OF 910 DWELLING UNITS WITH A MAXIMUM OF 1656.

WE DID ALL OF THIS WORK WITH COUNCIL BACK IN 2016.

BUT YOU'RE JUST NOW SEEING THE FIRST HOMES OCCUPIED IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE DEVELOPMENT IS BROKEN INTO FOUR PHASES.

HERE ARE THOSE FOUR PHASES.

I WON'T READ THROUGH ALL OF THIS TEXT JUST SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY ARE AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT.

THEN HERE ARE THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PLOTTED.

THIS IS WHERE HOMES ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTED, OR OCCUPIED.

THE REST OF THE LAND IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING PLOTTED OR IN VARIOUS STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT.

I'M JUST GOING TO GO OVER THE PROVISIONS OF THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED.

THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAD PROVISIONS ABOUT BALANCING DENSITIES ACROSS THE ZONING CATEGORIES.

THE NEW PROPOSED AMENDMENT LOOKS AT BALANCING DENSITIES ACROSS THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT STATE.

STAFF DOESN'T SEE ANY ISSUES WITH THIS AS LONG AS THE MAXIMUM IS NOT EXCEEDED ON ANY ONE SITE, IN TERMS OF WHAT IT'S ZONING WOULD ALLOW.

THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BETTER BALANCE AND WORK WITH RESOURCES AS WELL.

THIS IS THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THIS IS WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROVISIONS.

IT'S A 100 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, OWNERSHIP UNITS THAT WOULD GO INTO THE LAND TRUST, SERVING UP TO A 125 PERCENT AMI, AREA MEDIAN INCOME WAS SUBJECT TO AN AFFORDABILITY PLAN.

THE INTENDED LOCATIONS WHERE THE MR AND THE HR ZONES, MEDIUM DENSITY, HIGH DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL.

THE UNITS WERE NOT PLANNED TO BE CLUSTERED, THEY WERE GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED AND THE CITY AGREED TO ADD IN AN INCENTIVE IN REGARDS TO ENGINEERING FEES.

THERE WAS A PENALTY PROVISION IN RELATION TO THOSE ENGINEERING FEES.

HERE'S THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT.

FEELS LIKE WORK IS EVER PRESENT, EVER HAPPENING ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING SECTION WITH THE PROVISIONS FOR A MINIMUM OF 180 AFFORDABLE RENTAL UNITS.

HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN IN RIGHT NOW THAT'S 200, BUT THE APPLICANT WILL GUARANTEE A MINIMUM OF 180 MAYBE, SERVING AN AVERAGE AREA MEDIAN INCOME OF 60 PERCENT FOR A PERIOD OF 30 YEARS.

THERE WOULD BE A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT WOULD BE RECORDED WITH THE CITY AS A THIRD PARTY BENEFICIARY.

A CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE SITE HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.

IT DOES LOOK GOOD. WE'RE NOT SEEING BIG ISSUES WITH THAT CONCEPT PLAN AND AGAIN, THAT CONCEPT PLAN DOES HAVE 200 UNITS.

VINTAGES OBLIGATION WILL BE SATISFIED ONCE THE COVENANT IS RECORDED AND THE CITY ACCEPTS THE ROUGH GRADING CERTIFICATE.

ROUGH GRADING CERTIFICATE, AS A GOOD INDICATION THAT CONSTRUCTION IS DEFINITELY EMINENT.

YOU'VE INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

IN ADDITION, VINTAGE WILL PROVIDE NO LESS THAN THREE ACRES TO HABITAT FOR HUMANITY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AT LEAST 40 UNITS INTENDED FOR OWNERSHIP FOR HOUSEHOLDS WITH AN AVERAGE AREA MEDIAN INCOME OF 100 PERCENT.

THIS WILL BE PART OF HABITATS EXISTING STARTER HOME PROGRAM AND UNITS ARE RESTRICTED FOR AFFORDABILITY AND WILL BE INCLUDED WITHIN THE CITY LAND TRUST PROGRAM.

VINTAGE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SUBDIVIDING THE BLOCK 2 TO CREATE THE 3-ACRE PARCEL, AND IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING ACCESS AND TO STUB UTILITIES TO THE HABITAT PARCEL.

THE DEED IS TO INCLUDE A RATE OF REVERSION CLAUSE IN FAVOR OF THE CITY IF CONSTRUCTION IS NOT COMPLETED IN FIVE YEARS AND THE HABITAT PARCEL WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE TIMBER SKY CC&R'S.

IN ADDITION VINTAGE AGREES THAT THE CITY WILL NOT SIGN A FINAL BLOCK PLAT FOR TRACT ZZ, WHICH IS BASICALLY PHASE 4 AS I SHOWED YOU EARLIER UNTIL THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IS RECORDED ON THE AFFORDABLE RENTAL PROJECT.

THE CITY HAS ACCEPTED A COMPLETE ROUGH GRADING CERTIFICATE, AND THE HABITAT PARCEL HAS BEEN CONVEYED TO HABITAT OR THE ENTITY APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGE.

LAST, THERE IS A SMALL PROVISION TO THE WATER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT REQUIREMENTS.

THIS MEANS DELETING PROVISIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT

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WATER SERVICES HAS AGREED THAT THESE PROVISIONS ARE NO LONGER NECESSARY.

ALL REQUIRED WATER CAPACITY FEES, HOWEVER, WILL BE PAID.

THIS WAS JUST ABOUT A TIMING OF PAYMENTS.

THERE'S ALSO AN ALTERNATIVE PAYMENT SCHEDULE FOR ENGINEERING FEES, SO VINTAGE HAS AGREED TO PAY THE CURRENT ENGINEERING FEES FOR PHASE 4.

HERE ARE THE PENALTIES THAT HAVE BASICALLY BEEN BUILT INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IS A RESTATEMENT BUT PHASE 4 FINAL PLAT WON'T BE SIGNED BY THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF UNTIL A DEED RESTRICTION HAS BEEN RECORDED ON THE AFFORDABLE RENTAL PROJECT.

THE DEVELOPER WILL STILL BE ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD IN TERMS OF GETTING PLOTS AND SITE PLANS MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS, HOWEVER, THOSE PARCELS OF LAND WON'T BE CREATED UNTIL THE CITY SIGNS THE PLAT.

THEN ONCE THE OBLIGATIONS HAVE BEEN SATISFIED BY VINTAGE IS RELEASED FROM THE CURRENT PENALTY OF 1.6 MILLION.

HOWEVER, VINTAGE WILL PAY THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING FEES ON ALL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN PHASE 4.

THE PRACTICAL EFFECT IS THAT VINTAGE WILL PAY ROUGHLY A QUARTER OF THE 1.6 MILLION FEE THROUGH THE PAYMENT OF CURRENT ENGINEERING FEES IN PHASE 4.

THAT IS THE SUM TOTAL OF THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM, BUT I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY IS GOING TO FOLLOW ME AND COVER ALL OF THESE DETAILS AND FOR YOU AS WELL.

>> I HAVE ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION.

IN THE DA, FOURTH AMENDMENT WE HAVE HERE IT SAYS A MINIMUM OF 200 RENTAL UNITS AND NOW I'M SEEING 180.

>> YES AND I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE CAN HANDLE THAT.

YOU WANT TO ANSWER? OKAY.

>> MAYOR COUNCIL, CHRISTINA RUBALCAVA SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

THE DA IS STILL GOING TO SAY 200, BUT THERE IS A PROVISION THAT SAYS AND WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THIS PROVISION SO THE APPLICANT WANTS A PROVISION THAT SAYS THAT WILL BE 200 UNITS.

HOWEVER, IF A CITY CODE PROVISION DOES NOT ALLOW THEM TO BUILD 200 UNITS, THEN THEY WILL GUARANTEE A MINIMUM OF 180.

WE DISAGREE WITH THAT PROVISION BECAUSE WE THINK IN ACTUALITY THERE'S NOTHING IN CITY CODE THAT WOULD EVER REQUIRE THEM TO BUILD LESS THAN 200.

IT JUST MAY MAKE BUILDING 200 MORE EXPENSIVE, SO IT'S A CONFUSING PROVISION.

OUR PREFERENCE IS THAT IT NOT BE INCLUDED, BUT IF IN THE REVISED PROVISION THEY'RE ONLY GUARANTEEING A MINIMUM OF 180, THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK AT.

WHAT COUNCIL'S GETTING IS A MINIMUM 180 UP TO 200, IF IT WORKS.

>> OKAY. BECAUSE LAST WE SPOKE TO IT WAS 200 MINIMUM AND POTENTIALLY 230 WAS WHAT IT WAS REALLY LOOKING LIKE.

THAT'S A LOT OF UNITS DIFFERENCE.

>> WE RECEIVED THAT AT SIX O'CLOCK TONIGHT, SO IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.

EVERYONE'S WORKING HARD TO GET SOMETHING FINAL FOR COUNSEL, BUT I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WILL WANT TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION AS WELL.

>> COOL. SOUNDS GOOD. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I HAVE ONE DOCUMENT HERE IN A DIFFERENT ONE THERE. THANK YOU.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> RIGHT. YEAH, PLEASE COME UP.

>> THANK YOU. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

LINDSAY SCHUBE WITH THE LAW FIRM AT GAMMAGE & BURNHAM, 40 NORTH CENTRAL IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA.

HAPPY TO BE HERE. IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT, SO I WILL AS WELL TRY TO MAKE MY PRESENTATION CONCISE.

I WILL SAY IF WE'VE COME ALL THIS WAY AND WE'RE DOWN TO ONE THING ABOUT LANGUAGE, I THINK WE'RE GOOD AND I WILL EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBERS AND HOW WE GOT THERE.

LINDSAY SHOULD BE WITH ME IS WALTER.

WE ALSO HAVE ERIC FROM HABITAT FOR HUMANITY WHO WILL PRESENT IS PART OF OUR PRESENTATION AS WELL.

HE'LL COME ON RIGHT AT THE END.

AS TIFFANY SHOWED YOU, THESE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT BLOCKS.

THE TWO DEVELOPMENT BLOCKS WE'RE SPEAKING OF SPECIFICALLY TONIGHT IS 1 AND 2 IN ORDER TO FILL THE AFFORDABLE OBLIGATION FOR THIS PROJECT.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE CURRENT DA.

IF WE WALK AWAY TONIGHT, AND WE HAVE NO AGREEMENT, THE OBLIGATION FOR VINTAGE STILL REMAINS 100 UNITS AT 125 PERCENT AMI OR LESS.

THAT'S FAIR. THE AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, AND THE AMENDMENT HAS TAKEN MANY DIFFERENT FORMS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 18 MONTHS.

YOU'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU.

BUT THE LAST ONES SPECIFICALLY THAT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS, LAST TIME I WAS HERE STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU, WE HAD 160 RENTAL UNITS AND 10 LOTS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS OF THE RENTALS VERSUS LONG-TERM HOUSING.

YOU GUYS SAID, "I LIKE IT,

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WE'VE GOT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM COUNCIL TO TALK TO OTHER NON-PROFITS, PERHAPS HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

IT TURNED OUT TO BE A VERY FRUITFUL CONVERSATION.

WE HAD 170 BEFORE, NOW WE'RE AT 240 AND I'LL EXPLAIN THE 10 PERCENT DEVIATION AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US.

AFTER WE LEFT THE COUNCIL HEARING, VICE MAYOR SUITE AND ACTUALLY HAD THE GOOD IDEA, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU CREDIT OF TINY HOUSES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 10 BIG LOTS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK FOR EVERYONE.

BUT CONTINUE TO GIVE.

HOW CAN YOU BE BETTER? WE TOOK THAT TO HEART.

WE WENT TO HABITAT.

WE HADN'T THOUGHT OF THE TINY HOUSE IDEA.

HABITAT GOT VERY EXCITED, AND I'LL LET ERIC SPEAK TO THAT SPECIFICALLY AS TO WHAT HABITAT CAN DO AND WHY THEY'RE AT THE TABLE.

WE'VE MADE A LOT OF GOOD PROGRESS.

WE HAVE GONE FROM 170 TO 240, JUST IN THE SHORT TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN AWAY FROM YOU. NOW WE'RE BACK.

BLOCK 1, AND I'M GOING TO REGURGITATE WHAT TIFFANY SAID, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH IT SUPER QUICKLY.

TWO HUNDRED AFFORDABLE UNITS, THEY ALREADY HAVE THE FOUR PERCENT TAX CREDIT.

I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST TIME.

THEY JUST DID THE NEW TAX CREDIT PROJECTS AND A LOT OF PROJECTS DIDN'T GET IT IN FLAGSTAFF, AND IT WAS EXCEPTIONALLY DISAPPOINTING.

I THINK THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE WAY TO GET 200 RENTAL UNITS TO MARKET WHEN SOME OF THE NINE PERCENT TAX CREDIT PROJECTS THAT THE PEOPLE APPLIED FOR IN FLAGSTAFF, I APOLOGIZE IT'S LATE, DIDN'T GET APPROVED.

SIXTY PERCENT AMI OR LESS, 30-YEAR AFFORDABILITY PERIOD.

CITY HAS THIRD-PARTY BENEFICIARY, AND WE'LL GET ALL THE WAY TO COMPLETE ROUGH GRADING CERTIFICATE.

WHAT IS THE DEVIATION? WE HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN.

MAYOR, TO CORRECT YOU, I DON'T THINK WE EVER HAD 230.

WE WANT TO GET AS MANY AS WE CAN.

ROERS, OUR PARTNER, WANTS AS MANY UNITS AS POSSIBLE.

IT'S BETTER FOR THEM.

THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT IS IN REVIEW WITH PLANNING RIGHT NOW, AND THEY CAN CONFIRM THAT, HAS 200 UNITS.

WE WILL GET AS MANY ON THERE AS POSSIBLE.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE 200 IN HERE.

HERE'S OUR FEAR. AS YOU GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, AND YOU GUYS HAVE ALL HEARD THIS.

FIRE NEEDS SOME THINGS, ENGINEERING NEEDS SOME THINGS.

PLANNING NEEDS SOME THINGS.

THEN YOU START TO HAVE CODE ISSUES.

WE WILL NOT DO ANYTHING TO GET LESS THAN 200 UNITS.

BUT WE DO WANT A BUFFER SO THAT IF BECAUSE OF MANAGING CODE AND MANAGING THE APPROVAL, THE PLAN IN TODAY HAS 200 UNITS.

BUT WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS WHEN ANYONE, WE WANT TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT WITH YOU THAT IF BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS, TOPOGRAPHY, RESOURCES, ALL THOSE THINGS CAUSES US TO LOSE A UNIT, I DON'T WANT THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK BACK AT THE CITY, OR AT THE DEVELOPER AS NOT HAVING DONE WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO.

THE PLAN HAS 200 UNITS.

I'M JUST SAFEGUARDING FOR THOSE, SOMETHING THAT NO ONE CAN FIX.

THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH LEGAL ON, SAYS DEVELOPED CITY AND VINTAGE CITY AND OWNER AGREE TO MAXIMIZE DENSITY AND OPTIMIZE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PARCEL.

THE CURRENT PLAN HAS 200 UNITS, NOT DEVIATING, BUT BOTH WILL USE BEST EFFORTS.

YOU HAVE A COMMITMENT FOR ME, YOU KNOW THAT WE KNOW HOW TO USE THE INCENTIVE THAT WE USED ON THE OTHER CASE, THAT WE WON'T TALK ABOUT.

WHEN IT'S 100 PERCENT AFFORDABLE PROJECT, YOU GUYS HAVE A PROVISION IN YOUR ORDINANCE TO MAKE SOME DEVIATIONS.

I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.

I'M JUST A LAWYER AND I'M NERVOUS.

I DO HAVE IN THERE THAT IF THERE IS A 10 PERCENT DEVIATION, WHICH IS STILL A HIGHER NUMBER THAN WE HAD LAST TIME, WE ARE NOT IN VIOLATION OF OUR AGREEMENT.

THAT'S A MATH EXERCISE. YOU GUYS CAN ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AFTER I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH THE REST.

I PROMISE IT IS SHORT. BLOCK 2, THREE ACRES DONATED TO HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

HUNDRED PERCENT AMI, PROPERTY DEED RESTRICTED AND PLACED IN THE CITY'S COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.

THERE'LL BE THE STARTER HOMES IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE HABITAT'S EXISTING STARTER HOME PROGRAM WITH THE CITY.

WE'LL PROVIDE ACCESS, STUB UTILITIES, ALL THOSE THINGS.

WE'LL AGREE TO WORK IN GOOD FAITH WITH ALL PROPERTY OWNERS IN TERMS OF CROSS ACCESS FOR RETENTION UTILITIES.

SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO ACCESS SOMETHING ON ANOTHER SIDE.

IF IT'S NOT COMPLETED WITHIN FIVE YEARS, PROPERTY REVERTS BACK TO YOU GUYS, AND OR AN ASSIGNEE OF YOUR CHOICE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HABITAT AGREES TO.

ERIC CAN SPEAK TO THAT TONIGHT.

SWI HAS VOLUNTEERED IT'S SERVICES FOR THIS LOADING PLAN.

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[INAUDIBLE] THIS IS THE LAWYER.

I GET NERVOUS. THIS IS 48.

WE'RE HOPEFULLY GOING TO GET 48 LOTS OUT HERE.

I WANT TO GUARANTEE 40, AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE MORE.

THAT'S THE PLAN THAT IT'S ATTACHED HERE TONIGHT.

THIS HAS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE SAW YOU.

WE AGREE TO PAY THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING FEES ON PARCEL 4.

THAT WASN'T ON THE TABLE LAST TIME.

THE CITY ASKED US IF WE WOULD PAY CURRENT FEES ON PHASE 4, AND THAT'LL BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN REVENUE.

TWO IS JUST THE AVERAGING OF DENSITIES.

I THINK TIFFANY COVERED THAT UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THE DELETION OF THE WATER FEES.

AGAIN, ALL WATER FEES ARE PAID.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIMING AND IT'S INAPPROPRIATE.

IT'S NOT NECESSARY ANYMORE.

THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO ERIC.

I APPRECIATE IT'S DUPLICATIVE.

I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN IT, BUT THIS IS WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO.

THE 100 AT 125 PERCENT AMI OR 240.

IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER, WE CAN SAY 220, BUT I DO FEEL COMFORTABLE WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT 200.

I JUST WANT THAT 10 PERCENT DEVIATION IN THERE IN CASE THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH.

YOU ASKED US TO DO BETTER.

WHEN WE CAME WITH THE 170, YOU ASKED US TO LOOK AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES.

WE DID IT. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED.

I THINK THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY. IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.

I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW IN FLAGSTAFF AND HEARTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN AFFECTED BY THE FIRE.

BUT IN TERMS OF OTHER CHALLENGES AND CRISES AND EMERGENCIES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, I REALLY THINK THESE TWO PROJECTS THAT CAN COME TO MARKET RIGHT-OF-WAY REALLY DO HELP SOLVE ANOTHER CRISIS AND EMERGENCY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR 18 MONTHS.

WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.

THIS IS OUR FINAL AND BEST OFFER.

WE FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT IT.

THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT IN NEGOTIATIONS BACK-AND-FORTH, BUT WE'RE REALLY HOPEFUL THAT COUNCIL WILL RECOMMEND THAT WE PROCEED WITH THIS FOR ADOPTION FOR NEXT WEEK.

ERIC WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS ON BEHALF OF HABITAT, AND THEN WE ALL CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FOR ANYONE.

>> CERTAINLY. THANKS, LINDSAY.

THANK YOU MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU, AND YOUR STAFF.

AGAIN, I'M ERIC WOLVERTON, PART OF HABITAT FOR HUMANITY OF NORTHERN ARIZONA.

YOU GUYS HAVE MET ME ONCE OR TWICE.

ACTUALLY, I WAS REALLY GLAD TO SEE FOUR OF YOU YESTERDAY AT OUR GROUNDBREAKING EVENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PARTICIPATING IN OUR PILOT STARTER HOME, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO REALLY CHANGE WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING LOOKS LIKE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW IT IMPACTS THE HOMEOWNER.

I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU FOR WEEKS NOW AT THE BEGINNING OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE A SHARED EQUITY MODEL.

THIS IS WHAT THAT IS.

I WAS ASKED BY MANY OF YOU HERE AT THE DIOCESE, BACK IN APRIL AFTER THE APRIL 12TH MEETING, TO GET A HOLD OF THE FOLKS AT VINTAGE, AND COME UP WITH A NEW PLAN THAT INCORPORATED STARTER HOMES AND THEIR MODEL.

THE GOOD NEWS IS VINTAGE REACHED OUT TO US FIRST.

THEY HEARD YOU. I'M GLAD WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.

THAT CONVERSATION QUICKLY TURNED INTO A SOLUTION FOR VINTAGE AND FOR HABITAT, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, FOR YOUR LOW-INCOME CITIZENS.

THAT SOLUTION IS THE SIMPLE FACT THAT LAND TRUST PROGRAMS ARE VERY HARD FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO WORK WITH, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THE LENDING AS EASILY AS HABITAT CAN, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE PROVIDE THE LENDING.

WE SOLVE A MAJOR CRITICAL PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPING ON LAND TRUST LANDS.

WE ARE THE ONLY SOLUTION.

OTHERWISE, IT TAKES HOMEOWNERS MONTHS AND MONTHS TO FIND A COMMERCIAL LENDER WHO WILL LET THEM BORROW MONEY ON ONLY A HOME, AND NOT THE ACTUAL PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT INCREASES IN VALUE, WHICH IS THE LAND.

WE MET YOUR BENCHMARK.

WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION, AND NOW I'M REALLY PLEASED TO TELL YOU THAT STARTER HOMES ARE NOT ONLY BEING DEVELOPED AND STARTED HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, BUT THE INCITEMENT, AND THIS IS HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

WE CREATED STARTER HOMES.

I HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY THE CITY OF MESA, FLORENCE PAGE, CLARKSDALE, COTTONWOOD, BULLHEAD CITY, AND JUST TODAY, I GOT AN EMAIL FROM PRESCOTT, IN PRESCOTT VALLEY.

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THE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT AND WHAT LINDSAY MENTIONED TO YOU IS THAT THIS PARTNERSHIP COMES WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT LEVERAGES.

I CAN'T DO THIS BY MYSELF.

THERE'S NO WAY THAT HABITAT CAN DO THIS ALONE.

IT GOES THROUGH PARTNERS.

JUST TO LIST A FEW OF THOSE IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

NUMBER 1, FREE LAND, NUMBER 2, FREE ENGINEERING, NUMBER 3, FREE CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT, FREE LABOR BECAUSE OF OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH CCC STUDENTS DEVELOPING OUR HOMES.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, HABITAT IS GOING TO FINANCIALLY INVEST IN OUR LOCAL ECONOMY BY HIRING SUBCONTRACTORS TO FINISH OUT OUR HOMES.

I'M ASKING YOU TO TRUST IN OUR ABILITY TO BUILD THESE HOMES.

OUR ABILITY IS NOT A FINANCIAL BURDEN FOR US.

OUR HARDSHIP IS LAND AND IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

WE JUST FINISHED THIS WEEK OUR SIXTH AND FINAL HOME ON THE ISABELLE PROJECT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

THAT PROJECT TOOK US EIGHT YEARS TO BUILD.

THE REASON WHY IT TOOK SO LONG WAS BECAUSE WE WERE SCARED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY LAND AFTER THAT, AND WHAT AND WHERE WOULD WE BUILD.

WHEN WE WENT TO CITY STAFF AND WE ASKED FOR ANSWERS OR SUPPORT TO THOSE QUESTIONS, WE WERE TOLD WE WERE CUT OFF.

IT WAS TIME TO FIND NEW LAND PARTNERS, WHICH WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY DONE WITH CHURCHES, WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND ALSO AGAIN WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF BY IDENTIFYING THE O'LEARY PROPERTY FOR OUR FIRST TWO STARTER HOMES.

NOW WE HAVE A PRIVATE DEVELOPER THAT COULD CHANGE THE ALGORITHM COMPLETELY.

WHEN HAVE YOU HEARD OF A PRIVATE DEVELOPER REACHING OUT TO A NON-PROFIT LIKE HABITAT, AND SAYING, "PLEASE BUILD FOR US?" THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

THAT'S WHERE DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS CAN GO FURTHER, NOT JUST IN FLAGSTAFF, BUT ACROSS THE GREAT STATE OF ARIZONA AND ACROSS AMERICA.

STARTER HOMES ARE SO IMPACTFUL BY JUST ALLOWING PEOPLE TO SAVE THEIR EQUITY AND CREATE A SAVINGS ACCOUNT.

AFFORDABLE RENTALS DON'T DO THAT.

NOT ONE PERCENT DO YOU TAKE AWAY WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH YOUR RENTAL PROPERTY.

JUST MORE FINANCIAL BURDEN.

WITH STARTER HOMES, YOU GET $10,000 EQUITY SAVINGS EVERY YEAR.

WE'VE EVEN SET IT UP SO THAT WAY PEOPLE CAN'T LIVE THERE FOREVER.

WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO TAKE THEIR WEALTH AND FIND THEIR OWN CONVENTIONAL LOAN AND HOUSE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF AND ENCOURAGE THAT GROWTH.

WE FEEL THAT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, NOT JUST FOR HABITAT.

WE'VE ONLY BUILT 25 HOMES IN ALMOST 30 YEARS.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD 48 HOMES IN FIVE.

WHAT LINDSAY SAID IS CORRECT.

SOMETIMES IT NEEDS TO BE A BUFFER.

WHEN WE GO AND IMPROVE OUR FLOOR WE ALWAYS BUY 10 PERCENT EXTRA BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW.

BUT FOR ME, FROM HABITAT, WE WANT TO BUILD 48 HOMES, AND WE DON'T WANT TO STOP THERE.

IT'S JUST A FIVE-YEAR PLAN AND YOU LOSE NOTHING.

IF HABITAT CAN'T FULFILL ITS COMMITMENT, YOU GET THE LAND BACK.

TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE INVESTORS THAT ARE JUST SO AMAZINGLY ENCOURAGED BY THIS STARTER HOME IDEA, JUST IN THE LAST MONTH ALONE, 30 DAYS, WE GOT A $100,000 GIFT FROM M3F, A FULL HOUSE SPONSORSHIP.

THAT'S MUSIC FESTIVAL AND PHOENIX.

THANKS PHOENIX FOR INVESTING IN US.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN VERY HEAVY TALKS WITH ARIZONA LOTTERY.

THEY'RE SO IMPRESSED THEY WANT TO SPONSOR AN ENTIRE HOME FOR $100,000 AS WELL.

HABITAT OF CENTRAL ARIZONA, WHICH IS BASICALLY ALL OF MARICOPA, IS LOOKING TO EXPAND THEIR PROGRAMS TO INCLUDE STARTER HOMES.

HOW DID THEY INVEST IN THAT? BY GIVING US $100,000 OF THEIR MONEY TO BUILD A HOME HERE FOR THEM TO LEARN OFF OF.

INVESTORS ARE READY TO PUT THEIR MONEY TO WORK FOR

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WE'RE NOT GOING TO HOLD PEOPLE IN POVERTY ANYMORE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THEIR INCREASED PAY AND WAGES AWAY FROM THEM ANYMORE.

WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO SUCCEED WITHIN OUR CITY AND GROW AND PROSPER.

WE LOST A BIG PART OF OUR VIEW THIS WEEK.

WE DON'T HAVE MUCH WITH POVERTY WITH A VIEW.

BUT BY GOODNESS WE CAN GET RID OF THE POVERTY.

WE CAN. WE HAVE TO DO IT TOGETHER IN PARTNERSHIP IN TRUST AND FAITH.

BELIEVE ME, I'M STANDING HERE AFTER 25 YEARS LIVING IN FLAGSTAFF, AND I AM 1,000 PERCENT COMMITTED TO THIS PROJECT AND THE SUCCESS OF IT, AND I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE PARTNERS LIKE VINTAGE, LIKE WESPAC CONSTRUCTION THAT IS WILLING TO DONATE ALL OF THEIR SERVICES ON ALL OF THESE HOMES.

WHY ARE BIG BUSINESSES WILLING TO GIVE UP SO MUCH? BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

I THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, ERIC. WE DO HAVE [NOISE] A FEW PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS I'D LIKE TO TAKE BEFORE WE GO INTO THE MEAT OF THE QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION. TYLER MARK.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

I REALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ERIC FOR PUMPING ME UP RIGHT NOW.

I'M FEELING IT. THAT WAS AWESOME.

MY NAME IS TYLER MARK. I AM A LOCAL RESIDENT FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS.

I ALSO HAPPEN TO BE THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR WESPAC CONSTRUCTION.

WE'RE A LOCAL GENERAL CONTRACTOR BEEN HERE FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS AND HAVE BUILT, IN OUR TIMEFRAME, 1,200 APARTMENTS, 125 HOMES, 24 TOWN HOMES, YOU NAME IT.

DURING OUR TENURE, MYSELF I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD AT HABITAT NOW FOR 11 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CONSTRUCTION COMMITTEE, RIGHTFULLY SO BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE.

BUT OUR WHOLE INTENT AND OUR WHOLE COMMITMENT TO THIS PROGRAM IS BASED OFF OF WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE PAST 11 YEARS.

I FEEL MYSELF SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT'S GOING ON.

I FEEL CONNECTED TO WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND OUR COMPANY AS A WHOLE IS COMMITTED TO FLAGSTAFF IN GENERAL.

FOR US, THE CHALLENGE HAS ALWAYS BEEN, AS ERIC TOUCHED ON, THE LAND.

HOW DO WE GET ENOUGH LAND TO BE PRODUCTIVE? NOW WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SEIZE ON AN OPPORTUNITY THAT VINTAGE HAS PRESENTED TO US AND BE ABLE TO EXECUTE WHAT WE KNOW WE CAN EXECUTE.

WESPAC IS COMMITTED TO BEING A PART OF THIS DEAL.

TYLER MARK IS COMMITTED TO BE A PART OF THIS DEAL AS I HAVE BEEN FOR THE NINE HOMES THAT I'VE BUILT WITH ERIC.

FROM A BOARD PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE A SOLID COMMITTED GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ALL BEHIND THIS PROJECT.

I CAN'T SPEAK INDIVIDUALLY AS TO SOME NUANCES HERE OR THERE, BUT WE DO HAVE A BOARD THAT IS COMMITTED TO THE PROCESS THAT'S COMMITTED TO STARTER HOMES.