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YOU CAN GO WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the Commission and to the general public that, at this regular meeting, the Commission may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]
LET'S START WITH THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.[2. Roll Call NOTE: One or more Commission Members may be in attendance telephonically or by other technological means. MARIE JONES, CHAIR CAROLE MANDINO, VICE CHAIR DR. RICARDO GUTHRIE MARY NORTON DR. ALEX MARTINEZ BOB HARRIS III LLOYD PAUL ]
RICARDO GUTHRIE, BOB HARRIS AND ALEX MARTINEZ ARE ALL EXCUSED.SO I SEE THAT WE HAVE THE NOTICE THE OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THERE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE READ OUT OR FOR THE PUBLIC? NO, THAT'S ALWAYS ON THERE.
IT'S JUST IT'S JUST A NOTICE THAT WE HAVE TO POST FOR PUBLIC PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, BUT.
I GUESS I NEVER NOTICED IT BEFORE.
THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED BEFORE THE COMMISSION TODAY.
TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON AN ITEM THAT IS ON THE AGENDA.
PLEASE WAIT FOR THE CHAIR TO CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED.
NEXT, WE WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS MAY 25TH.
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Approval of the minutes from the meetings on Wednesday, May 25 and June 8, 2022.]
ACTUALLY, THE LAST TWO MEETINGS, MAY 25TH AND JUNE 8TH.AS YOU RECALL, MAY 25TH WAS THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE HAD THE PLANNING IT WASN'T AN EXECUTIVE.
I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM MAY 25TH, 2022 AS WRITTEN.
THIS IS MARY NORTON. I'LL SECOND THAT.
OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE CONTINUE? SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THOSE MINUTES.
ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE READY FOR THE JUNE 8TH MINUTES.
I CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 8TH.
THANK YOU. THIS IS COMMISSIONER PAUL, I'LL SECOND.
OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AYE, AYE.
NEXT, WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[A. PZ-22-00074: Noble Herb’s request for a Zoning Code Text Amendment to modify the existing Marijuana Dispensary hours. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Staff recommends the Planning and Zoning Commission, in accordance with this report, find that the required findings of the Zoning Code have been met, and that the Planning and Zoning Commission make a recommendation to the City Council for approval of the Zoning Code Text Amendment. ]
[B. PZ-22-00089: City’s request for a Zoning Code Text Amendment to modify the existing Marijuana Dispensary land use and Specific to Use provisions for Marijuana Establishments to address Proposition 207 – Smart and Safe Arizona Act (recreational use of marijuana) that was approved by the Arizona voters in November 2020 and the recent issuance of social equity licenses. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Staff recommends the Planning and Zoning Commission, in accordance with this report, find that the required findings of the Zoning Code have been met, and that the Planning and Zoning Commission make a recommendation to the City Council for approval of the Zoning Code Text Amendment.]
FIRST ITEM PZ-22-00074 REQUEST FOR ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR NOBLE HERB.GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS TIFFANY ANTLE.
CAN YOU SEE MY PRESENTATION? YES. PERFECT.
SO I WILL BE PRESENTING TWO SEPARATE CASES TONIGHT.
WE'VE DISCUSSED THEM PREVIOUSLY IN THE SAME WORK SESSION.
I HAVE THEM ALL IN THE SAME PRESENTATION TONIGHT, BUT I'VE BUILT IN RECOMMENDATIONS AND INTO EACH ONE OF THESE, SO THEY WILL REQUIRE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET FORWARD.
THE FIRST THE FIRST CASE WE HAVE TONIGHT IS PZ 22-00074, WHICH IS A REQUEST FROM NOBLE HERB TO EXTEND THE MARIJUANA DISPENSARY HOURS OF OPERATION.
RIGHT NOW, THE ZONING CODE LIMITS HOURS OF OPERATION FOR MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES FROM 8 A.M.
TO 7 P.M., AND THE REQUEST IS TO EXTEND THAT FROM 8 A.M.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE EXTENT OF THIS AMENDMENT.
IT'S JUST SIMPLY CHANGING THAT.
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SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS.WE'VE HAD A WORK SESSION WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
WE HAD SOME FAIRLY GOOD DISCUSSION, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING DEFINITIVE IN WAY OF DECISIONS IN TERMS OF WHERE WE WERE LEANING.
SO TONIGHT YOU ARE SEEING STAFF RECOMMENDING EXACTLY AS THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED ON THE 10 P.M..
SO HERE ARE THE FINDINGS FOR ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENT AND I'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE.
THE FIRST FINDING IS THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH AND CONFORMS TO THE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND ANY APPLICABLE SPECIFIC PLAN. THE AMENDMENTS PURPOSE IS TO EXTEND THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR MARIJUANA SALES TO ALIGN WITH OTHER SIMILAR USES IN THE COMMUNITY, SUCH AS PHARMACIES. THIS AMENDMENT IS SUPPORTED BY GOALS AND POLICIES WITHIN THE REGIONAL PLAN, INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING.
VERY RARELY DO WE SEE ANYTHING RELATED TO GOALS AND POLICIES IN RELATION TO OURS SPECIFICALLY.
BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT BEST MATCHED THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH INCLUDES VERY VARIETY AND FLEXIBILITY IN LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS. REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS SUPPORT THE START OF RETENTION AND EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESS ENTERPRISES AND AGAIN, NOBLE HERB IS AN EXISTING BUSINESS INSIDE THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.
THEY ARE A DUAL LICENSED FACILITY, SO THEY ARE BOTH A NONPROFIT MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY AS AND AS WELL AS HAVING RECREATIONAL SALES. SO, PAULA, FINDING NUMBER TWO IS, IS THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST, HEALTH AND SAFETY, CONVENIENCE OR WELFARE OF THE CITY. AND IN THE PAST, I BELIEVE THAT I'VE DISCUSSED THAT I DID REACH OUT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN REGARDS TO THE EXTENSION OF HOURS.
NO CONCERNS WERE SUBMITTED AS THERE ARE OTHER SIMILAR BUSINESSES WITH SIMILAR HOURS.
A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PROVISIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN INCORPORATED SPECIFICALLY INTO MARIJUANA OPERATIONS, ZONING CODE STANDARDS PERTAINING TO THE SECURITY OF THESE SITES. SO MOST OF THESE SITES ARE SECURED IN WAYS THAT OTHER FACILITIES ARE NOT.
THESE INCLUDE EVEN HOW THEY DISPOSE OF REMNANTS AND BYPRODUCTS, AS WELL AS PROHIBITION OF ONSITE CONSUMPTION, EMISSIONS OF DUST FUMES, VAPOR SMOKE AND ODORS.
AND AGAIN, THEY HAVE FAIRLY STRONG SECURITY STANDARDS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE.
SO STAFF WAS ABLE TO MAKE THE FINDING NUMBER TWO.
AND THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT IS, IT UTILIZES THE EXISTING FORMAT, IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH OTHER ZONING CODE PROVISIONS, AND IT STICKS WITH THE PURPOSE OF KEEPING A CONTEMPORARY SET OF LAND USE AND REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE STRAIGHTFORWARD, USABLE AND EASILY UNDERSTOOD.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIRED FINDINGS, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENT PZ 22-00074 MARIJUANA DISPENSARY.
AND I'VE ADDED IN THIS RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT BECAUSE THAT'S THE NEXT TEXT AMENDMENT.
I'M HAPPY TO PAUSE HERE BEFORE MOVING FORWARD TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AND ALLOW THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A DECISION ON THIS ITEM IF YOU SO CHOOSE.
OKAY. I SEE COMMISSIONER MANDINO, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED? YES. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
WHILE THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD BY NOBLE HERB, WILL OTHER DISPENSARIES BE NOTIFIED THAT THIS THIS CHANGE HAS HAPPENED? WE HAVE ONE OTHER DISPENSARY RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.
THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER NORTON.
THANK YOU. I'VE ACTUALLY GIVEN THIS A LOT OF THOUGHT.
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AND I LISTENED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION WHERE THIS PRESENTATION WAS MADE TO THEM AND THEIR COMMENTS.AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS AND IT'S IN FINDING ONE IS THE ALIGNMENT WITH PHARMACIES.
SO I KIND OF DID A LITTLE MORE LOOKING INTO THAT ASPECT OF IT AS FAR AS SORT OF THE DEFINITION OF THE PHARMACY, IS IT ACTUALLY THE PHARMACY STORE OR IS IT THE PHARMACY COUNTER WHERE MEDICATIONS AND DRUGS ARE DISPENSED? AND IN OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, THE TWO WALMARTS, THE TWO WALGREENS, THE TWO CVS AND THE SAFEWAY PHARMACIES, THEIR STORES ARE OPEN TILL 10 AND 11 AT NIGHT, BUT THEIR PHARMACY COUNTERS ARE ONLY OPEN UNTIL 7 OR8 AT NIGHT. AND EVEN EARLIER ON THE WEEKENDS.
ONLY WALGREENS HAS THEIR PHARMACY COUNTER OPEN UNTIL 10 P.M..
SO I WAS TAKING ISSUE, I GUESS, WITH THE IDEA OF EXTENDING THE HOURS OF DISPENSARIES TO ALIGN WITH PHARMACIES AND ALSO TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT ONCE THIS IS CHANGED, IT WILL AFFECT NOT ONLY THE DUAL THE DUAL LICENSED DISPENSARIES, BUT IT WILL AFFECT DOWN THE LINE THE RECREATIONAL ONLY THE SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES THAT MAY COME BEFORE US. SO THAT THAT CONCERNED ME WHILE I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE TO ANYBODY, PARTICULARLY THOSE WITH A MEDICAL CARD THAT MAY NEED TO VISIT THE DISPENSARIES LATER IN THE EVENING, IT IS GOING TO.
TAKE EFFECT FOR ALL DISPENSARIES.
AND SECONDLY, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE US ALIGN WITH OTHER NORTHERN ARIZONA CITIES, AS WELL AS THE COUNTY DISPENSARY. AND ALL OF THOSE IN SEDONA AND PRESCOTT AND IN THE COUNTY JURISDICTION ARE ONLY OPEN UNTIL 8 P.M..
SO WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW WOULD BE MY INTENTION WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND THAT THIS MOVE FORWARD, BUT WITH THE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION THAT THE HOURS BE REVISED TO NO LATER THAN 8 P.M..
I HAVE THIS IS I HAVE ONE THOUGHT ON THAT.
I THINK THAT THE RESTRICTION ON HOURS FOR DISPENSARIES WOULD BE BY ORDINANCE, WHEREAS I DON'T KNOW IF IF THAT DRUGS THAT PHARMACY COUNTERS ARE RESTRICTED BY ORDINANCE, THAT'S PROBABLY MORE JUST THEIR CHOICE.
DO WE KNOW IF THEY'RE RESTRICTED BY ORDINANCE? THAT IS CORRECT, MARIE.
THERE IS A STANDARD ON MIXED USE BUILDINGS FOR SOME OUR REGULATION, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE DON'T REGULATE SIMILAR RETAIL OPERATIONS.
WE DON'T LIMIT THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS? I JUST WANTED TO REMIND AS WELL THAT THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HAD ANY COMMENTS OR PRESENTATION THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN MAKING.
WELL, WE COULD GO, WELL, OKAY, IF WE WANT TO SEPARATE THOSE.
WE COULD ASK THE APPLICANT TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT ON THIS AT THIS TIME.
THIS IS [INAUDIBLE] PEACOCK FISHER ON BEHALF OF NOBLE HERB.
IS IT OKAY IF I PROCEED? YES, THAT'D BE GREAT.
FIRST, I WANTED TO THANK MS. NORTON FOR HER COMMENTS, BUT I ALSO WANT TO REITERATE THAT THAT THERE IS PHARMACY ACCESS THAT IS AVAILABLE TILL 10 P.M., I THINK, WHEREAS ON THE MEDICAL DISPENSARY SIDE, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE THAT BECAUSE OF THE ORDINANCES.
I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT THAT WHILE THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE LICENSING STRUCTURE, REALLY OUR ASKING BEFORE THE IS COMING BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING REGARDING OUR DUAL
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STATUS WHICH WHICH SERVES MEDICAL PATIENTS THERE.AND WHILE WE HAVE USED OPERATING HOURS AS EXAMPLES OF PHARMACIES, GROCERY STORES, WALGREENS STORES, GYMS, RESTAURANTS, REALLY TO SHOW THE ACCESSIBILITY THAT CUSTOMERS HAVE TO VARIOUS SERVICES AROUND FLAGSTAFF WHEN THEY MIGHT WORK OFF HOURS OR DIFFERENT SHIFTS TO ENSURE THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THINGS.
ALSO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE POINT OF MAKING THE COMPARISON TO OTHER TO NORTHERN ARIZONA.
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT IS WORTH MENTIONING AS YOU FIGURE OUT ACCESS AND MOVING FORWARD.
YOU KNOW, I ALSO THINK THAT WHEN IT COMES TO ACCESSIBILITY, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PUT YOUR SHOES IN PATIENTS THAT HAVE DEBILITATING CONDITIONS, TRYING TO MAKE IT THROUGH, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO OPEN UP THE HOURS.
I'M SURE IF ANY OF YOU HAVE DRIVEN BY SOME OF THE DISPENSARY PARKING LOTS AT CLOSING HOURS, YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY ARE OVERPACKED, OVERFILLED AND IT CREATES A HARD STOP AT THAT TIME.
SO WE ARE ABLE TO HIRE OR HIRE TWO FULL TIME SHIFTS.
AND ALSO IT DOESN'T ALLOW TO SPREAD THAT TRAFFIC CUSTOMER AND TRAFFIC TO THE STORES WITH THAT HARD CLOSE AT 7.
SO IT HAS MULTIFACETED TO REALLY HELP WITH THE EFFICIENCIES AND TRAFFIC AND ACCESS AND JUST APPRECIATE THE APPRECIATE THE PLANNING AND ZONING CONSIDERATION OF THIS AND HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT IS REQUESTED OF THE COMMISSION.
OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANY MORE HANDS RAISED.
SO WHY DON'T WE GO ON TO THE TO THE SECOND RELATED CASE.
SURE. AND I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND AT THIS POINT, SORT OF ADD IN THIS NEW INFORMATION THAT I RECEIVED IN THE LAST TWO DAYS IS THAT THERE IS A NEW HOUSE BILL BEING CONSIDERED BY THE ARIZONA LEGISLATURE.
THIS WOULD COME INTO EFFECT IF IT'S PASSED, IT WOULD LIKELY COME INTO EFFECT OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.
AND IT WOULD BASICALLY MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR THE ENTITIES THAT HAVE RECEIVED THE SOCIAL EQUITY RECREATIONAL ONLY LICENSES TO ALSO OBTAIN THE LICENSE OR THE PERMISSION FOR THE NONPROFIT MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY.
SO IT IS LIKELY IN THE END, AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE, THAT MOST OF THE DISPENSARIES WE SEE WILL BE THE DUAL FACILITIES.
AND I COULDN'T EVEN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND WHY OR EXPLAIN WHY I HAVEN'T.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.
LET'S SEE. WE'VE LOST YOUR VOICE OR I HAVE LOST YOUR VOICE.
TIFFANY, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING.
AM I BACK NOW? YES, YOU'RE BACK.
ALL RIGHT. SO OUR SECOND CASE IS IN REGARDS TO MARIJUANA OPERATIONS AS A WHOLE.
THE PRIMARY PURPOSE IS TO DEAL WITH SINGLE RECREATIONAL SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
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THIS IS PZ 29-00089.AND THIS IS A REQUEST COMING FROM THE CITY ITSELF.
AND THIS IS TO AMEND THE ZONING CODE TO ADDRESS MARIJUANA OPERATIONS IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF BY OBTAINING TERMS AND DEFINITIONS TO INCLUDE THAT SINGLE RECREATIONAL SALES ESTABLISHMENT AND REVISE THE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL MARIJUANA OPERATIONS FORMERLY MARIJUANA ESTABLISHMENTS, IF THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IS APPROVED.
SO THIS IS THE OVERVIEW OF THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.
RIGHT NOW, MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES ARE ONLY ALLOWED IN THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE.
WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING A SLIGHT CHANGE TO THE USES AS THEY'RE LISTED IN OUR INDUSTRIAL ZONES.
SO IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONES WE HAVE THE OFFSITE CULTIVATION LOCATIONS AND MANUFACTURING LOCATIONS.
WE'RE JUST CHANGING THAT TERMINOLOGY FROM LOCATION TO ESTABLISHMENT.
SO HERE IS ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT CHANGE THAT'S COMING ALONG IN THIS AMENDMENT.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO CHANGE THE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT BETWEEN MARIJUANA ESTABLISHMENTS AND IN THIS CASE, FROM 2000 FEET TO 2500 FEET AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH SOME MAPS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE.
SO BASICALLY 2500 FOOT SEPARATION SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE WHAT THIS MEANS.
THIS FIRST MAP IS OUR EXISTING.
SO THIS IS THE 2000 FOOT SEPARATION.
THIS BLUE BUBBLE YOU SEE UP IN THE NORTHERN AREA IS ACTUALLY LOCATED IN THE COUNTY JUST OUT SIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU'LL SEE THE TWO DISPENSARIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY LOCATED INSIDE OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.
SO NOBLE HERB IS CURRENTLY LOCATED IN THE YELLOW CIRCLE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE OTHER DISPENSARY NOW THAT IS LOCATED NEAR THE OTHER SAFEWAY SHOPPING CENTER.
SO THE BLUE BUBBLE NEXT TO THE YELLOW NOBLE HERB IS THEIR NEW LOCATION.
SO IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO DRIVE BY, IT'S THE OLD [INAUDIBLE] RESTAURANT.
THE BUILDING IS SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN IT EVER USED TO BE, SO IT'S DEFINITELY A SIGHT TO SEE.
SO LOTS OF IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THAT 2000 FOOT.
SO THE EXISTING NOBLE HERB SITE IS OUTSIDE.
SO IT'S A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF WHAT OUR BOUNDARIES ARE.
NOW, OF COURSE, REMEMBERING THAT MOST OF THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE FALLS ON THESE MAJOR CORRIDORS.
SO AS YOU SEE THESE BUBBLES, THEY'RE KIND OF FOLLOWING THE MAJOR CORRIDOR LINES.
THE NEXT MAP IS GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE 2500 FOOT SEPARATION LOOKS LIKE.
SO THESE TWO SITES WOULD BE TOO CLOSE.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH OF A LARGER AREA, JUST EVEN THAT 2500 FEET IS.
THE LAST ONE THAT I HAD LOOKED AT WAS THE MILE.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT AS I SHOW YOU THE SEPARATION, THE MAPS GET SORT OF ZOOMED IN.
AND SO YOU'RE SEEING OVERALL OF A LESS OF AN AREA.
BUT JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT A MILE SEPARATION LOOKS LIKE TAKES UP MUCH MORE OF THE CITY WOULD WOULD START TO DRAMATICALLY LIMIT AREAS THAT COULD BE POTENTIAL SO YOU COULD PROBABLY MAYBE I MEAN IF YOU WERE IN THIS CORRIDOR HERE YOU COULD MAYBE FIT INTO DEPENDING UPON ZONING, DEPENDING UPON THOSE SEPARATIONS.
SO WITH THAT, THE REST OF THE CODE AMENDMENT IS BASICALLY WE'RE RENAMING MARIJUANA ESTABLISHMENT MARIJUANA OPERATION AND WE'RE ADDING RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT TO THE DEFINITION TO AVOID CONFLICTS WITH ARIZONA REVISED STATUTES, WE'RE RENAMING MARIJUANA OFFSITE CULTIVATION LOCATION AND MARIJUANA OFFSITE MANUFACTURING LOCATION TO OFFSITE CULTIVATION ESTABLISHMENT AND MARIJUANA OFFSITE MANUFACTURING LOCATION TO BETTER ACTUALLY THAT SHOULD SAY, ESTABLISHMENT TO BETTER ALIGN WITH ARIZONA REVISED STATUTES.
AND THIS WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR THE RECREATIONAL ONLY MARIJUANA SALES.
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SO MARIJUANA RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT WILL INCLUDE A NONPROFIT MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY, A DUAL LICENSED ESTABLISHMENT OR A SINGLE RECREATIONAL RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT.SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AGAIN, THERE ARE THREE FINDINGS.
THE FIRST IS, IS THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
THE FINDING HERE IS VERY SIMPLE, IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS THAT THE AMENDMENT'S PURPOSE, PRIMARY PURPOSE IS TO IMPLEMENT THE CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, TO UPDATE THE ZONING CODE, TO CONFORM WITH THE ISSUANCE OF SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES, AND TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY AND CONFORMANCE WITH THE REGIONAL PLANS, GOALS AND POLICIES.
THEREFORE, THE MODIFICATIONS WOULD ALLOW FOR SINGLE RECREATIONAL RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS IN ADDITION TO MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES AND DUAL LICENSED ESTABLISHMENTS, SINCE VERY SIMILAR GOALS AND POLICIES GENERALLY FOUND IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SECTIONS.
AND THEN OF COURSE THE THE SEPARATION, THE MARIJUANA ESTABLISHMENT OPERATIONS CAN ALSO YOU CAN PULL SEVERAL COMPONENTS FROM OUR COMMUNITY CHARACTER SECTION AS WELL.
IT'S TO ASSIST IN ASSURING THAT THE PROPOSED MARIJUANA ESTABLISHMENT LAND USES ARE NOT DETRIMENTAL.
ALL OF THE OTHER SEPARATION STANDARDS REMAIN THE SAME.
IN ADDITION, PROVISIONS ARE ALREADY INCORPORATED PERTAINING TO THE SECURITY, DISPOSAL AND PROHIBITION OF ONSITE CONSUMPTION AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED. AND LASTLY, THE AMENDMENT IS INTERNALLY CONSISTENT, AS IS THE OTHER AMENDMENT.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIRED FINDINGS MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENT PZ 22-00089 MARIJUANA OPERATIONS AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
THANK YOU. I SEE COMMISSIONER MANDINO.
TO REFRESH ALL THIS IN MY MIND.
CURRENTLY IT'S AT 2000 FEET AND WE'RE SAYING 2500 FEET.
THAT'S CORRECT. WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPANDING THAT SEPARATION DISTANCE SO IN EXPANDING THAT THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT MUCH HARDER FOR THESE SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES TO BE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH HARDER.
SO IT MAY REDUCE A COUPLE OF SITES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT THE INTENTION IS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.
RIGHT. AND SO THAT 500 FEET, YOU THINK WILL MAINTAIN A HEALTHY I MEAN, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY WE'RE DOING THAT, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S THAT THOSE SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES ARE THEN GOING TO BE MORE LIMITED AND HARDER FOR THEM TO LOCATE IN A COMMUNITY SUCH AS OURS.
AND IF THE INTENT OF LEGISLATION IS TO HAVE MORE SOCIAL EQUITY, WE'RE ACTUALLY BY PASSING AND LIMITING IT OR PASSING THIS TO GO OUT TO 2500 SQUARE FEET INSTEAD OF 2000 OR 2500 FEET INSTEAD OF 2000, IT WILL LIMIT.
IT LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF SPACE FOR THESE SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES.
WOULD YOU SAY THAT WAS CORRECT? YES. AND AND THAT THE INTENT OF THE LEGISLATION IS TO ALLOW FOR MORE SOCIAL EQUITY.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO WE'RE I DON'T SEE WHERE THIS IS TO ME A HEALTH AND
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SAFETY ISSUE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT 500 FEET, IT JUST LIMITS WHERE PEOPLE CAN SELL OR OPEN ANOTHER BUSINESS.AND WE'RE LIMITING THAT AND THEN NOT OPENING SPACE FOR OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE SOCIAL EQUITY.
CORRECT. THE ADDITIONAL SEPARATION WOULD REDUCE POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF RECREATION OR WOULD REDUCE THE POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SALES ESTABLISHMENTS POSSIBLE.
RIGHT. AND WHY WAS CITY STAFF BRINGING THIS FORWARD? I MEAN, WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT TO BRING THE CHANGE FROM 2000 TO 2500? WHAT ARE THE HEALTH ISSUES THAT YOU SEE BY LIMITING MORE SOCIAL EQUITY? SURE. SO STAFF BROUGHT THIS FORWARD AS A POTENTIAL AMENDMENT AT THE WORK SESSION AND AFTER DISCUSSION.
AND AGAIN, WE DID NOT BUILD A FULL CONSENSUS WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BUT THEN FOLLOWED UP AS WELL WITH THE WORK SESSION WITH CITY COUNCIL JUST TRYING TO GARNER WHERE THE.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAD DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL OF EVEN GOING TOWARDS A MILE.
THAT'S WHY I SHOWED THE MILE MAP.
THE CITY COUNCIL ASKED ME TO COME BACK SPECIFICALLY WITH MAPS, BUT I DID GO AHEAD AND MAKE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION THIS TIME AROUND BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING TIME FRAME. I DID NEED TO DO THAT.
AND SO THAT WAS BASICALLY TRYING TO BUILD OFF OF SORT OF THE CONSENSUS OR SOME OF THE INPUT I RECEIVED FROM BOTH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS PUTTING A LIMIT.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S BECAUSE OF SAFETY AND HEALTH, BUT I DON'T SEE WHY THAT 500 FEET IS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
AND I THINK IT WILL LIMIT THE SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES TO BE WHERE THEY CAN BE LOCATED.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR PROVIDING THE MAPS THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED AND TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT THE EFFECT WOULD BE. I WAS GLAD TO SEE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE 2500 FEET.
MY CONCERN WAS THAT WE DON'T END UP WITH A DISPENSARY ON EVERY CORNER IN OUR LIMITED CORRIDOR OF HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS WAS EXPLAINED, WAS PRETTY MUCH MILTON AND ROUTE 66, WHICH THEREFORE MIGHT ALSO LESSEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER BUSINESSES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE ZONED AREAS.
SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE 2500 FEET.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE NOT ONLY TO ALLOW THE DISPENSARIES TO COME INTO TOWN AND BE APPROPRIATELY DISTANCED TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL SPACE FOR OTHER BUSINESSES TO ENCOURAGE THEM.
AND JUST AS A GENERAL IN TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITY.
SO THAT'S THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
THANKS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PAUL.
I WILL PROBABLY BE ECHOING SOME OF ALL OF THIS.
BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT THE 2500 FOOT KIND OF COMPROMISE, WHICH I THINK IS A REALLY GOOD WAY TO PUT THAT ON THIS, PROVIDES A REASONABLE LEVEL OF DENSITY FOR ONE SPECIFIC TYPE OF BUSINESS.
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LOOKING AT THE MAPS WERE ACTUALLY QUITE HELPFUL WITH THIS AS WELL, ESPECIALLY JUST TO GIVE SOME SCALE TO EXISTING BUSINESSES HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.THIS WOULD NOT BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2000 OR 2500 FEET WOULD NOT BE CRUCIAL IN MY GENERAL SUPPORT FOR THE TEXT AS WRITTEN.
BUT 25,000 OR EXCUSE ME, 2500, ROUGHLY A HALF MILE BETWEEN SEEMS REASONABLE AND THE THE POINT FOR ALLOWING A DIVERSITY OF BUSINESS TYPES AND USES WITHIN THAT AREA, NOT HAVING ONE TYPOLOGY KIND OF CROWDING OTHERS OUT, I THINK IS A REASONABLE POINT AS WELL.
THANK YOU. CAROLE, IS THAT YOUR HAND AGAIN OR IS THAT SO I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE THINKING OF THIS AS A COMPROMISE, BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT 2000 SQUARE FEET OR 2000 FEET. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE COMPROMISING ON.
I KNOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, 2000 TO A MILE, BUT WE'RE AT 2000 RIGHT NOW, WHICH WOULD MEAN ESSENTIALLY SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, AT 2000 FEET, SOMEBODY COULD COME IN AND BUY THE OLD OR RENT THE OLD NOBLE HERB DISPENSARY WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY LOCATED. THEY COULD COME IN AND DO THAT AT 2000 FEET, BUT AT 2500 FEET, THEY COULD NOT.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND YOU KNOW, TO ME, THEY'RE NOT ON.
WE HAVE LIMITED AVAILABILITY AND THEY CAN'T BE AVAILABLE ON EVERY CORNER.
SO TO ME, IT'S THAT SOCIAL EQUITY PART THAT WE'RE REALLY LIMITING.
AND THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, AS I WAS, I WAS RAISED BY PEOPLE WHO OWNED A BUSINESS, A HARDWARE STORE.
BUT WE DON'T LIMIT THAT AND I REALIZE THAT THIS IS A DIFFERENT OPERATION, BUT THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MARIJUANA OPERATIONS, IT'S NOT LIKE A BAR WHERE PEOPLE ARE HAVING SMOKING MARIJUANA OR VAPING OR EATING EDIBLE MARIJUANA ON SITE.
SO I'M NOT REALLY CERTAIN WHAT THE SAFETY ISSUE IS.
I SEE THIS AS LIMITING THE SOCIAL EQUITY.
I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER MANDINO.
I DID WANT TO JUST STRESS THE REASON WHY I AND I DIDN'T SAY THIS WELL ENOUGH, BUT THE REASON WHY WE WERE CONSIDERING INCREASING THE SEPARATION IS BECAUSE WHEN THE CODE WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN, WE WERE LIMITED TO TWO LOCATIONS WITHIN FLAGSTAFF.
BECAUSE THESE SEPARATIONS GO BACK TO WHEN IT WAS ONLY MEDICAL DISPENSARIES THAT WERE ALLOWED.
AND SO THERE WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE ASSURANCES NOT THAT THAT NOT THAT THAT GOES I MEAN, I HEAR EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THAT WAS THE REASON FOR LOOKING AT IT TO SEE IF THAT WAS A NECESSARY. AND THEN I THINK THE STATE LOTTERY IS NOT ISSUING THAT MANY MORE LICENSES.
SO THAT'S ALSO VERY LIMITING AND IF I RECALL, THAT MAY BE THAT ONLY TWO MORE LICENSES COULD BE ALLOWED IN FLAGSTAFF.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO THERE WERE 27 SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES JUST RECENTLY ISSUED.
AND THE WAY THAT THE LICENSES USED TO WORK, THEY WERE LIMITED TO SPECIFIC AREAS.
BUT NOW ONCE YOU HAVE THE DUAL LICENSE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT YOU CAN MOVE ANYWHERE.
SO AS LONG AS YOU'RE MEETING ALL OF THE CODES AND REQUIREMENTS OF THAT MUNICIPALITY.
SO THERE ARE THOSE 27 LICENSES NEW THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT THE PRIMARY POPULATION FOR ARIZONA, BUT I WOULD SUSPECT THAT OVER TIME WE WILL SEE SOME DESIRE FOR NEW FACILITIES IN FLAGSTAFF.
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU.THIS IS INTERESTING DISCUSSION, I THINK, CAROLE, YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT ABOUT EQUITY ON THIS.
WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP, THOUGH, RIGHT NOW, I'M LOOKING AT THE 2000 FOOT MAP AND IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THERE IS NO SPACE ON MILTON BETWEEN THOSE TWO FACILITIES.
FOR A THIRD ONE TO GO IN, EVEN AT 2000 FEET.
AND ALSO, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IF SOMEONE, FOR INSTANCE, DID OCCUPY THE CURRENT NOBEL HERB SITE, IT WOULDN'T. THEY COULDN'T BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN THAT 2000 FOOT BOUNDARY.
THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE VISUALLY.
IF I'M SEEING THIS RIGHT I WAS READING THE MAP THE SAME WAY YOU WERE INITIALLY NUT WHAT YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK FOR IS, IS THAT BLACK DOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CIRCLE.
SORRY. OH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MR. THOMPSON. I THINK IF YOU COULD TURN YOUR CAMERA OFF AND YOUR AND YOUR AUDIO FOR NOW.
NO PROBLEM. CAN I ASK YOU TO PUT THE MAP BACK UP OF THE OF THE 2500 SQUARE FEET AND THE 2000 TO LOOK AT THOSE AGAIN. YEAH.
AND WE COULD IF WE COULD GO OVER HOW YOU'RE READING THAT, TIFFANY, THAT'D BE HELPFUL.
I MEAN, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I KNOW THAT I OUR LAST HEARING I BROUGHT UP THIS SUBJECT OF DISTANCE, AND MAINLY THAT WAS MY CONCERN, THE SAME AS MARY WAS MENTIONING, THAT THE CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE IN SOME COMMUNITIES AND YOU LIKE IN COLORADO, WHERE THERE'S JUST A GAZILLION DISPENSARIES, ONE AFTER ANOTHER, AND AS YOU DRIVE THROUGH TOWN, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE DISPENSARY HEAVEN AND JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
THAT WAS KIND OF MY THINKING ORIGINALLY ABOUT THIS.
I DO THINK, THOUGH, THAT THERE'S MORE TO CONSIDER THAN THAT.
AND COULD YOU SHOW THE 2000 SQUARE FEET? SO IF WE WO HOW SHOULD WE BE READING THIS, TIFFANY? SO IF YOU SEE THE LITTLE SQUARE, THAT'S THE PARCEL WHERE NOBLE HERB IS CURRENTLY HIGHLIGHTED.
THEY FALL OUTSIDE OF THE 2000 FOOT BUFFER AROUND THEIR FACILITY.
OKAY, SO I DID THE EXACT SAME THING.
I ACTUALLY SAID THAT THIS I ACTUALLY SAID THE OPPOSITE AT CITY COUNCIL WHEN I DID THE WORK SESSION.
AND IT TOOK MY BRAIN A MINUTE TO THERE WE GO. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS NEXT MAP, YOU CAN SEE THAT NOW THAT EXISTING NOBLE HERB FALLS WITHIN THE 2000 FOOT BUFFER.
SO NOW THEY'RE CLOSER THAN 2000 FEET OR 2500.
SO THEY'RE THERE AT 2500 FEET THEN? YES. THANK YOU.
SO JUST CAN I ASK ON THE MAP BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE WHAT'S IN BETWEEN.
SO NOW LOOK IN BETWEEN THE TWO BLUE DOTS.
WHAT AREA OF TOWN IS THAT? CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE THAT IS IN BETWEEN? PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT'S THERE IS THE NAU CAMPUS, BUT IN THIS CURVE.
SO THIS IS WHERE CITY HALL IS.
OKAY. AND THEN WHERE THE BLUE DOT IS FOR NOBLE HERB. IGNORE THE YELLOW ONE.
TELL ME WHERE THE THE FURTHEST ON ROUTE 66, THAT IS.
WHAT WHAT IS THERE ON ROUTE 66 THAT YOU CAN IDENTIFY? WE CAN'T EITHER WE CAN'T HEAR YOU OR.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? [INAUDIBLE] OKAY.
SO FOR THIS WHAT WHAT IS AVAILABLE FOR THIS TO THE EAST ON 66 EAST OVER HERE.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING I'M SAYING WHERE THE BLUE DOT ENDS OR THE BLUE CIRCLE ENDS ON ROUTE 66.
WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT SWEITZER CANYON? OH, YES SWEITZER CANYON.
SORRY. AND SO IF LET'S SAY I WAS JUST OVER THERE RECENTLY AND
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VERIZON HAS SHRUNK THEIR BUSINESS.IS VERIZON IN THAT AREA? BECAUSE I CAN SEE.
I BELIEVE THAT VERIZON IS IN THAT BLUE EXISTING.
OKAY. BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY TELL FROM THAT BECAUSE IT CURVES.
I APOLOGIZE [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S WHERE NOBLE HERB CURRENTLY IS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. AND SO THE CURVE WOULD TO ME MEAN THAT SHOPPING CENTER.
IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE OUT, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY.
SO IT MIGHT JUST BE RIGHT HERE.
THANK YOU. YEAH, BUT IF NOBLE HERB FOR EXAMPLE.
OKAY. THEY COULDN'T HAVE TWO STORES WHERE THEY ARE EXISTING AND WHERE THEY'RE OPENING.
IF WE GO TO THE 2500 SQUARE [INAUDIBLE], I DON'T KNOW WHY I KEEP SAYING SQUARE FEET.
IF WE GO TO 2500 SQUARE FEET, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE BOTH LOCATIONS.
BUT I DO BELIEVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM NOBLE HERB ARE ON THE LINE.
I THINK THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR HAND UP AND WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON THIS CONVERSATION.
SO I DO I DO SEE COMMISSIONER PAUL AND COMMISSIONER NORTON, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A COMMENT.
IS THAT DOUGLAS DAILY? IS THAT FROM NOBLE HERB.
YES. THIS IS DOUGLAS DAILY ON THE GENERAL COUNCIL HERE AT NOBLE AIR.
I MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUST GIVE YOU SOME QUICK BACKGROUND HERE ON WHAT EXACTLY IS SOCIAL EQUITY.
SO THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE QUOTE SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES ARE ACTUALLY ACQUIRED BY LARGE MULTISTATE CORPORATIONS, MOSTLY LISTED IN CANADA. THESE ARE NOT YOUR MOM AND POP OPERATIONS.
SO THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THESE TO GO.
SO I THINK IT REALLY BECOMES MORE OF A QUESTION OF WHAT THE CHARACTER OF FLAGSTAFF SHOULD BE.
SO I DO THINK SOME INCREASE IN SEPARATION IS A REASONABLE APPROACH BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS A CONCERN, AT LEAST BY OUR REVIEW OF THE MAPS, THAT FLAGSTAFF COULD EASILY GET 7 TO 10 MORE DISPENSARIES IF IF THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL JUST CHANGING THE LAW WITHOUT ACTUALLY INCREASING ANY OF THE SEPARATIONS.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
I'M NOT SURE WHO CAME UP FIRST MARY OR LLOYD.
WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD WITH MARY AND THEN LLOYD AFTER THAT AFTERWARDS.
THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION OF THE MAPS.
AND IF WE'RE GOING FROM THE DOT IN THE MIDDLE OR THE LOCATION, THAT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE, WHICH ACTUALLY MAKES ME FEEL MORE STRONGLY ABOUT THE 25 FOOT AND 2500 FOOT SEPARATION.
AND I ALSO APPRECIATE MR. DAILY'S COMMENT ABOUT THE SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES IN FLAGSTAFF.
AND YES, THE CHARACTER IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT AND THAT WE PROTECT THAT.
ALSO, IT BRINGS UP ANOTHER QUESTION.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED SHORTLY AFTER THE PASSAGE OF 207 THAT FORBIDS SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES HERE.
AND SO IS THIS NEW? IS WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON OR VOTING TO RECOMMEND TODAY? IS THAT LIFTING THAT ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES BECAUSE NOW WE'RE GOING TO LUMP THEM ALL TOGETHER AND CALL THEM ONE THING.
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THAT CLARIFICATION HELPS.YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, GOING BACK TO THE MAPS, THE KIND OF DIFFERENCE IT SEEMS THAT WE'RE ARGUING OVER HERE IS WHETHER THE SEPARATION, SAY, FOR INSTANCE, BETWEEN THE NEW NOBLE HERB AND THE EXISTING NOBLE HERB AND WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IF I'M SORRY, IT LOOKS LIKE THE MAP HAS GONE AWAY AGAIN NOW, BUT IF THAT COULD COME UP AND WE CAN MAYBE SWITCH BETWEEN THE TWO, IT PRACTICALLY LOOKS LIKE THE DISTANCE OF THE PREVIOUS EXISTING FACILITY MOVING HALFWAY DOWN THE BLOCK WOULD THEN BE ALLOWED OR NOT ALLOWED UNDER KIND OF WHAT WE'RE KIND OF DISCUSSING AND GOING BACK AND FORTH HERE.
I THINK THAT THE TWO BUSINESSES WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW OR A COMPLETE OR EXCUSE ME, SAME BUSINESS, THE FUTURE LOCATION, THE EXISTING LOCATION, I THINK THAT IS AN ABSOLUTELY REASONABLE SEPARATION DISTANCE BETWEEN TWO SIMILAR BUSINESSES.
SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM STAYING WITH THE 2000 FOOT SEPARATION AS CURRENTLY OR AS PREVIOUSLY DRAFTED.
YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2000 AND 2500 FEET, AGAIN, IS NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT PERSONALLY FOR ME, MOVES THE NEEDLE AND ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IN TERMS OF FINAL DECISION FOR SUPPORT ON THIS.
SORRY. SORRY. I'M GOING TO LOWER MINE.
AND THEN THERE'S STILL ROOM ON FURTHER EAST ON ROUTE 66.
THERE'S ROOM UP ALONG FOURTH STREET AREA.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
I DO THINK I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU RAISED THE ISSUE OF THE EQUITY BECAUSE I'VE WONDERED ABOUT THAT, WHETHER THIS IS REALLY YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THESE RULES ARE MADE AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THOSE COVID FUNDS ENDED UP GOING TO PEOPLE WHO REALLY DIDN'T NEED IT IN A LOT OF CASES, AND IT'S JUST GOING TO BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IS IT TRULY EQUITY? HOW IS IT REALLY WORKING? AND SO BUT ANYWAY, I GUESS I FEEL LIKE IT DOESN'T INTERFERE IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY WITH THAT. AND THAT DOES ACHIEVE THE THE IDEA OF KIND OF LIMITING THE PRESENCE OF THEM ALL ALONG OUR MAJOR ROADS.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I STAND ON IT.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION OR THE APPLICANT ON THIS OR THE STAFF? CAN I JUST ASK? SO I HAVEN'T BEEN TO COLORADO SINCE MARIJUANA'S BEEN RECREATIONAL USE IN COLORADO. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU SEE TO ME? THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THAT MIGHT MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO ME.
I'LL JUST SPEAK FROM MY EXPERIENCE I'VE DRIVEN THROUGH RECENTLY AND SOME OF THOSE TOWNS I'M TRUE.
THERE TEND TO BE SMALLER TOWNS THAT I'M DRIVING THROUGH.
THERE WILL BE A WHOLE BUT I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF YOU SEE THEM.
THEY'RE JUST REALLY FREQUENT ALONG THE MAIN ROAD, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH.
SO I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
COMMISSIONER NORTON. I'LL JUST PIGGYBACK ONTO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I VACATION IN COLORADO A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR AND HAVE SINCE, WELL, LONG BEFORE MARIJUANA WAS LEGALIZED IN COLORADO AND SINCE. AND YES, THERE IS A PROLIFERATION OF DISPENSARIES IN EVERY LITTLE STRIP MALL, EVERY CORNER. IT'S NOTICEABLE.
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AND SURE IN SOME OF THOSE LITTLE TOWNS YOU SURE WOULD LIKE TO SEE OTHER BUSINESSES FLOURISHING, NOT JUST THE DISPENSARIES, THAT'S MY TWO CENTS.I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE OTHER CLARIFICATION ALSO.
THERE ALSO IS THE TIME FACTOR THAT'S PRESENT HERE.
AND AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, MOST MAJOR CITIES HAVE HAVE PROHIBITED SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES, HAVE THE BAN IN PLACE, EVEN THE ONES THAT MIGHT BE THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT OPENING THEM UP AT THE VERY BEGINNING STAGES.
SO IT WILL BE MONTHS BEFORE THEY COME ONLINE.
SO THERE IS A CONCERN, AS FLAGSTAFF BEING THE FIRST MAJOR CITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, IS THAT WHERE ARE THESE 27 OPERATIONS GOING TO GO AS SOON AS THEY FIND OUT FLAGSTAFF IS GOING TO BE LIFTING THE PROHIBITION.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO FIND A HOME.
AND THERE'S ALREADY TALK AMONGST THE COMMUNITY THAT FLAGSTAFF IS THE PLACE TO LOOK.
SO I THINK THERE IS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN THAT IF NOTHING IS DONE, THAT YOU WILL SEE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FACILITIES SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN COLORADO SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.
AND I WOULD ALSO ADD, JUST WITH THE TWO FACILITIES WE HAVE IN FLAGSTAFF TODAY, IF YOU INCLUDE THE FACILITY AT THE COUNTY, SO THERE'S THREE IN FLAGSTAFF THAT'S ALREADY ONE OF THE HIGHEST DENSITIES OF MAJOR CITIES THROUGHOUT ALL OF ARIZONA.
AND I THINK THE COMMISSION SHOULD CONSIDER THAT WHEN THEY'RE CONSIDERING THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
YES, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON TO THAT.
I WONDER IF THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE LEGISLATION THAT TIFFANY WAS MENTIONING THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE HOUSE AND BEYOND, THAT WOULD MAKE THOSE SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES DUAL PURPOSES BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD NOT ALLOW THOSE OTHER CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES TO FORBID SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSES BECAUSE THEY'D ALL THEREFORE BE DUAL LICENSES.
SO JUST WANTED TO KIND OF COME FULL CIRCLE ON THAT THOUGHT.
AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT IS, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES WHEN.
YOU KNOW, PLANNING AND ZONING OR CITY COUNCIL IS MAKING CHANGES OR NEW RULES, LAWS, ORDINANCES IS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ALWAYS MAYBE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE FULL RAMIFICATIONS OF IT.
AND I JUST FEEL THAT THIS IS PERHAPS ONE OF THOSE INSTANCES AND IT CONCERNS ME.
THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED.
SO I WOULD GUESS THAT WE'RE READY TO HAVE A MOTION.
THE FIRST IS THE LET'S SEE, WHAT IS IT BE? WE SEE THE P&Z COMMISSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REPORT AND THE AND THE FINDINGS OF THE ZONING CODE.
THAT WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF PZ 2 2-00074. ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENT.
OKAY. WITH THE ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENT.
TO MODIFY THE EXISTING MARIJUANA DISPENSARY HOURS FROM 7:00 P.M.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? THIS IS COMMISSIONER PAUL, I'LL SECOND.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? I'LL JUST ADD IN MY COMMENT THAT I WISHED WE WERE GIVING AN ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION TO THE CLOSING HOURS BEFORE 8 P.M..
I WOULD JUST REMIND YOU TOO THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS FREE TO AMEND.
THIS MOTION HAS BEEN MADE, SO WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT.
BUT IN, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FUTURE YOU WOULD BE WELCOME TO PROPOSE OR MAKE A MOTION THAT WOULD
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INCLUDE THAT AMENDMENT TOO.WELL, WE'LL SEE HOW THE VOTE GOES.
SO, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION.
I GUESS. CAN I CAN I JUST ASK CAN I JUST ASK YOU A PROCEDURAL QUESTION? SO IF I'M NOT IF I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE 10:00 PM.
YES. I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S TRUE.
YOU'D PROBABLY BE ASKED TO WHEN WE WHEN WE ALL VOTE WHEN WE VOTE AFFIRMATIVELY.
IT'S ASSUMED THAT WE'RE AGREEING WITH ALL THE FINDINGS.
SO IF WE IF WE VOTE NEGATIVELY, THEN WE NEED TO STATE WHICH FINDINGS WE CAN'T MAKE.
OKAY. COMMISSIONER MANDINO? YES, I WAS JUST GOING TO STATE THAT THE LAST MEETING I HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT 9:00 PM.
BUT IN REALITY, I DON'T HAVE BETWEEN 9 AND 10 P.M..
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT LAST MEETING I WAS SUGGESTING MAYBE 9:00 PM, BUT I REALLY IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THAT HOUR.
DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO I CAN SUGGEST THAT I AMEND THE MOTION TO SAY 9:00 PM INSTEAD OF 10 P.M..
AND THE SECOND, THE PERSON WHO'S SECONDED HAS TO ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT.
OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT WAS COMMISSIONER PAUL.
THAT MIGHT CHANGE MY PREVIOUSLY, I GUESS DECIDED THOUGHTS.
THAT'S I AGREE TO AMEND MY SECOND.
OKAY. SO NOW OUR NEW MOTION AMENDS THE ORIGINAL MOTION SO THAT THE HOURS PROPOSED ARE I FORGOT WHAT THE OPENING TIME IS [INAUDIBLE].
BUT AT THIS POINT IT SEEMS AS IF IT MAY FOR.
JUST THE LACK OF TO NOT CONFUSE ANYONE, INCLUDING THE MINUTES.
I THINK MAYBE IT MIGHT BE BEST IF YOU WITHDRAW THE MOTION.
OKAY. AND THEN START OVER SINCE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND MAYBE SOME HESITATION ON AMENDING SECONDS, ETC., I THINK THE BEST THING WOULD BE TO WITHDRAW THAT MOTION AND BEGIN AGAIN.
OKAY, SO THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO AND I WILL WITHDRAW THE MOTION IF MY SECOND WILL AGREE.
COMMISSIONER MANDINO THIS IS COMMISSIONER PAUL.
ALL RIGHT, THEN I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL A ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR PZ 22-00074 TO MODIFY THE EXISTING MARIJUANA DISPENSARY HOURS FROM 8 A.M.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REPORT AND WITH ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIRED FINDINGS OF THE ZONING CODE.
OKAY A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
THIS IS MARY NORTON, AND I WILL SECOND THAT.
OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS BECAUSE THIS PUTS ME IN A KIND OF A QUANDARY.
I FEEL LIKE I WAS FINE WITH THE 10 P.M.
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I GUESS I WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT.IF HOW MUCH I MEAN I WOULD I WOULD I'M ALSO FINE WITH 9 IF THAT THAT DOES THE TRICK.
BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT WHETHER OR NOT.
THE 10 P.M. ALLOWS FOR TWO FULL SHIFTS.
BUT IT'S NOT THAT THAT'S THAT'S MY THINKING BEHIND IT.
COMMISSIONER PAUL. I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH MAIRE TO ME, THE ONE HOUR DIFFERENCE CREATING STAFFING AND OPERATIONAL ISSUES IS NOT WORTH IT TO ME.
AND I WILL ALSO BE VOTING NO ON THE BASIS OF THE ORIGINAL TEXT BEING SATISFACTORY TO ME.
OKAY, MARY? YES. SO AS WE'RE PROPOSED RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT A 13 HOUR OPEN.
I DON'T SEE WHY THERE WOULDN'T BE TWO SHIFTS IN A 13 HOUR STORE OPENING, CONSIDERING THAT THERE'S OPENING THE STORE AND CLOSING THE STORE DOWN.
SO I DON'T SEE HOW THE ONE HOUR MAKE OR BREAKS THIS.
AND I STILL DO FEEL STRONGLY THAT THE 8 OR 9 P.M.
IS CLOSER IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE OTHER CITIES NEARBY.
AND WE ARE SMALLER THAN PRESCOTT AS WELL AS THE HOURS THAT THE PHARMACY STORES AND PHARMACY COUNTERS ARE OPEN.
SO THAT'S MY INPUT ON THIS NEGOTIATION WITH REGARD TO ONE HOUR ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
WELL. I DON'T [INAUDIBLE] YOUR HAND AGAIN OR WAS THAT FROM BEFORE? OKAY. YEAH.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT YOU KNOW THE OPEN TILL TEN GIVES THE ABILITY FOR TWO SHIFTS FULL TIME.
9 P.M. CREATES A PROBLEM FOR FULL TIME EMPLOYMENT IT MAKES EVERYONE PART TIME INSTEAD OF FULL TIME.
YOU KNOW, THE DISPENSARIES CAN'T OPEN UNTIL NINE AND SO EVENINGS ARE REALLY THE ISSUE.
EVERYONE HAS TO BE OUT AND DONE IN THE ORDINANCE HOURS.
WELL, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED AND WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND SO WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THAT AND ANYTHING ELSE NEEDS TO HAPPEN AFTER THAT WE'LL KNOW.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION ON THE TABLE PLEASE SAY AYE, AYE.
OKAY. SO WE HAVE KIND OF AN EVEN NUMBER THERE.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT DIDN'T PASS IN THAT WAY.
AND I THINK THAT WE'VE IN OUR COMMENTS, WE'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED OUR OUR VOTES.
SO I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A NEW MOTION.
AND THIS WILL BE TO FROM PZ 22-00074 FOR A ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENT TO MODIFY THE EXISTING MARIJUANA DISPENSARY HOURS FROM 8 A.M.
BE FORWARDED FOR APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL.
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WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SECOND THAT? THIS IS COMMISSIONER PAUL.I'M SORRY. ACCORDING TO THE FINDINGS AND.
AND ACCORDING TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS.
THIS IS COMMISSIONER PAUL SECOND.
YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HALEY WAS SAYING.
IS SHE STILL ON THIS CALL? YEAH, I SEE HER.
BECAUSE OUR OUR HOW HOW IT STANDS NOW.
SORRY, I PROBABLY DIDN'T MAKE THAT CLEAR.
REALLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T OPEN AT THE HOURS THAT WE ALLOW YOU TO OPEN.
YEAH. ANYHOW THAT I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS [INAUDIBLE] MORE HANDS.
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE ALREADY HAD A MOTION FOR THE HOURS ENDING AT 9 P.M.. NOW WE HAVE A MOTION IN AT 10 P.M..
SO IF WE DO NOT, I MEAN, SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO CALL ATTENTION TO THAT IN CASE, IN CASE THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THIS IS SORT OF OUR CHANCE TO VOTE ON THIS A SECOND TIME.
COMMISSIONER MANDINO, IS THAT STILL YOUR NEW HAND? I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
OR DO THEY WAIT AND OPEN AT 9 A.M.? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? I BELIEVE THEY I BELIEVE THEY OPEN AT 9 A.M..
BECAUSE. YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SAYING OPENING AT 9 A.M.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A CONSIDERATION.
SINCE THEY DON'T OPEN AT 8 A.M..
WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD SEE HOW THE VOTE GOES ON THIS.
THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION, RIGHT? I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN.
IS IT THE NUMBER OF HOURS OPEN? I THINK IT'S WHEN THEY MAKE THE SALES.
I MEAN, I'M JUST WONDERING OUT LOUD WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE IS IT A CONCERN THAT THEY'RE OPEN TOO LONG, THAT THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH. I MEAN, I GUESS I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW MORE WHAT THE CONCERN IS THERE.
I GUESS I DON'T REALLY HAVE A CONCERN.
I'LL JUST SAY THAT IF IT'S 8 TILL 10, I DON'T HAVE A CONCERN.
YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN FROM NOBLE HERB WAS THAT THEY CAN'T INSURE TWO SHIFTS WHEN AT 8:00 TO 9 P.M.
THEY COULD INSURE TWO SHIFTS, BUT THEY DON'T OPEN IT.
EIGHT. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS JUST A.
OKAY, BUT TAYLOR HAS ANOTHER COMMENT, SO WHY DON'T YOU JUMP IN THERE? I JUST LOOKED IT UP, AND THE OTHER DISPENSARY OPENS AT 10.
BUT JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, I DID A QUICK SEARCH AND THEY OPEN AT 10.
OKAY. AND I GUESS I JUST HAD ANOTHER COMMENT HERE THAT MY FEELING IS THAT IT'S NOT SO MUCH HOW MANY HOURS IN A DAY YOU'RE OPEN. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE OBJECTION MORE WAS TO HOW LATE THEY'RE OPEN.
AND LATE IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS APPLICANT IS LOOKING FOR ARE LATER HOURS.
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SO. YEAH, SO I'M GOING TO CALL FOR THE VOTE, WHICH.WELL, LET'S DO THAT. SO WE HAVE MOTION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
OKAY. WELL, WE HAVE A MAJORITY VOTE ON THAT.
WOULD YOU LIKE COMMISSIONER NORTON TO JUST TO SPEAK TO THE FINDING THAT YOU CANNOT MAKE? YEAH. NO, I'D BE HAPPY TO.
AND IT KIND OF PIGGYBACKS BETWEEN FINDING ONE, THE INTERPRETATION OF THE ALIGNMENT WITH PHARMACIES, BECAUSE I HAVE A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION OF PHARMACY STORE VERSUS PHARMACY COUNTER WHERE THERE'S THE DISPENSING OF MEDICATIONS.
SO I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO SEEK AN ALIGNMENT WITH THOSE HOURS THAT 8 OR 9:00 PM WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER FIT. AND SO THEREFORE IT SORT OF PIGGYBACKS INTO FINDING TO WITH THE WELFARE SAFETY OF THE CITY, I'D RATHER SEE THAT ALIGNMENT WITH THESE OTHER PHARMACIES, AS WELL AS WITH THE OTHER NORTHERN ARIZONA CITIES, WITH THE COUNTY DISPENSARY THAT'S LOCATED NEARBY, THAT WE'D BE CONSISTENT AND NOT HAVE THINGS OPEN TOO LATE.
SO THOSE WERE THOSE WERE ALL MY FACTORS FOR MY VOTE.
AND I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE SECOND A SECOND MOTION FOR 00089 CASE.
THIS IS SO WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
I CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS ONE.
I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIRED FINDINGS.
THE APPROVAL OF ZONING CODE TEXT AMENDMENT PZ 22-0089 FOR MARIJUANA OPERATIONS AS PRESENTED BY STAFF, WHICH DOES INCLUDE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE 2500 FOOT DISTANCE CHANGE.
AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SECOND THAT MOTION.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE VOTING? OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
SO, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE, AYE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE SAY NAY.
I'M SURE IT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR YOU TOO, BUT I SURE LEARNED A LOT.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS A CHALLENGE.
OH, GREAT. OKAY, SO LET'S DO IT AGAIN.
ALL RIGHT. LET'S DO I LOVE TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY.
SO LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT CASE.
[A. Preliminary Plat PZ-19-00019-07 for Rio Homes Unit 4 Multifamily A request by RP4V, LLC and RP40, LLC for Preliminary Plat approval for Rio Homes Unit 4 Multifamily, a 6-unit multi-family residential townhome subdivision. The 5.1-acre site is located at 1221 East Emma Drive in the MR, Medium Density Residential Zone, and has a Resource Protection Overlay (RPO) zone. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: In accordance with the findings, staff recommends the Planning and Zoning Commission forward the Preliminary Plat to the City Council with a recommendation for approval.]
[B. Preliminary Plat: PZ-19-00019-06 Rio Homes Unit 4 Multifamily Condominiums RP40, LLC and RP4V, LLC request approval of the Preliminary Condominium Plat for Rio Homes Unit 4 Multifamily, a 40-unit multi-family residential condominium subdivision. The 4.11-acre site is located at 1221 E. Emma Drive in the Medium Density Residential (MR) Zone and has a Resource Protection Overlay (RPO) zone. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Staff recommends the Planning and Zoning Commission, in accordance with the findings presented in this report, forward the Preliminary Plat to the City Council with a recommendation for approval.]
GOOD AFTERNOON.THIS IS GENEVIEVE PEARTHREE SENIOR PLANNER AND THE CURRENT PLANNING SECTION.
AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN AND WE CAN GET THIS STARTED.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, I'LL TRY TO DO MY BEST TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THE PURPOSE OF EACH ONE AND WHY WHY IT'S UP FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BUT FEEL FREE TO. YEAH, JUST IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO ASK THEM.
SO. OKAY, SO THIS AGAIN, THIS IS FOR TWO PLATS.
IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THEN IT'S ALSO A CONDOMINIUM PLAT.
I WILL DISCUSS THOSE BOTH IN DETAIL.
AND I ONLY HAVE ONE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, SO WHOOPS, I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS LITTLE BOX DOWN THERE.
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OKAY. SO THE REQUEST IS FROM RP4V LLC AND RP40 LLC.AND THEY'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL AGAIN OF THESE TWO PRELIMINARY PLATS.
AND THEN AND THAT'S THE -07 CASE.
AND THEN THERE'S THE CONDOMINIUM PLOT AND THAT IS THE -06 CASE.
SO BASICALLY THE PURPOSE OF THESE TWO PLOTS TOGETHER IS TO ALLOW 40 NEW MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY AS CONDOMINIUMS. SO RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE ALL OWNED BY THE SAME PERSON.
THAT'S OUR RP4V AND RP40 ENTITY.
SO THAT'S REALLY THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF, A LOT OF INFORMATION PRESENTED HERE.
40 UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL.
THEY'RE ALREADY APPROVED. THEY'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
JUST CAN THEY BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY AS CONDOS.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE PURPOSE OF THESE REQUESTS.
SO AGAIN, THE ADDRESS IS 1221 EAST EMMA DRIVE.
SO THAT IS JUST EAST OF NAU AND JUST NORTH OF I-40.
WE GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER UP VIEW HERE.
THIS IS THE SITE OVER HERE AND THEN WE HAVE THIS ARROYO PARK OVER HERE.
AND THEN HERE'S WHOOPSIES AND THEN HERE'S NAU.
SO THE TOTAL SITE IS 5.1 ACRES.
IT HAS MEDIUM DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY.
IT IS PART OF A LARGER RIO HOMES DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS PLANNED AND APPROVED IN THE MID 2000.
AND IT COVERS MORE PARCEL PARCELS THAN JUST THIS ONE.
SO THIS IS JUST THE RIO HOMES UNIT FOUR SECTION OF THAT LARGER RIO HOMES DEVELOPMENT.
AND THE ORIGINAL RIO HOMES UNIT FOUR PLAT WAS APPROVED IN 2005.
SO IT HAD SOME TOWNHOME TYPE LOTS.
IT HAD A CO-HOUSING KIND OF BUILDING WITH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT UNITS IN IT.
THEY ALL HAVE DETACHED GARAGES.
BUT VERY LITTLE OF THAT ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED.
SO. [INAUDIBLE] SO CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ANOTHER VERSION OF THE PLAN IN 2020 AND 2021, AND THAT MIGHT I MIGHT HAVE ACTUALLY MOVED THAT SLIDE UP IN THE PRESENTATION.
BUT FOR NOW, I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THE ZONING.
SO IT IS MR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONING SO THAT MOST OF THE AREAS AROUND THIS SITE HAVE MR. THERE'S A LITTLE SECTION OF RR SOUTH OF PINE KNOLL AND THEN TO THE WEST IS THE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND THAT'S AT ARROYO PARK.
AND THEN THIS IS WHAT THE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM THE PINE KNOLL AREA.
THERE'S A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT BUILDING SIZES.
THIS ONE IS KIND OF A BUNCH OF BUILDINGS CONNECTED TOGETHER.
AND THIS IS AN ELEVATION FOR ONE OF THE BUILDINGS.
IT'S BUILDING EIGHT THAT WOULD BE NORTH OF THIS BUILDING.
SO YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL THERE TWO STORIES.
AND THIS IS THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS THAT WERE APPROVED WITH BUILDING PERMIT.
AND AGAIN, THEY ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
OKAY. SO HERE'S MY BACKGROUND SLIDE THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
SO I MENTIONED THAT ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT.
ONLY SIX TOWNHOMES WERE CONSTRUCTED ALONG WITH THOSE DETACHED GARAGES, SO COUNCIL APPROVED A FINAL PLAT UPDATE OR ANOTHER FINAL PLAT FOR THE SITE IN OCTOBER 2020.
THIS DID ALSO GO BEFORE P&Z PREVIOUSLY AND THIS WAS IN MAY 27, 2020.
SO BASICALLY THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE UPDATED PLATS FOR THIS SITE.
SO THE FIRST UPDATE WAS THIS ONE THAT WAS APPROVED IN OCTOBER 2020.
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SO WITH THESE SIX EXISTING TOWNHOMES AND 40 NEW UNITS, THE TOTAL UNIT COUNT ON THE SITE IS GOING TO BE 46 UNITS.MOVING TO THE CASES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO TURN THOSE 40 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS INTO CONDOMINIUMS SO THAT THEY CAN EACH BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY SO THAT EACH PERSON WOULD BE ABLE TO OWN THEIR OWN UNIT. HOWEVER, THERE IS THE CURRENT TOWNHOME PLAT WHICH REGULATES THE LAND UNDERNEATH THE CONDO PLAT.
IT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE AMENDED IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THE CONDOMINIUM PLAT TO BE APPROVED.
THAT'S BECAUSE THERE WERE A FEW UNDEVELOPED TOWNHOME LOTS LINES THAT WERE NOT ERASED IN THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ERASED IN ORDER TO ALLOW CONDOS TO BE BUILT ON TOP OF THEM. SO THAT'S ONE THAT'S THE MAIN THING THAT THIS -07 PLAT DOES IS JUST ERASE THOSE TOWNHOME LOTS.
SO THERE'S NO BUILDINGS THERE.
SO THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT THAT -07 PLAT DOES.
AND THE -06 PLAT IS THE PLAT THAT WOULD BE CREATING THOSE CONDO UNITS ON TOP OF THE-07 PLAT.
SO AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING.
SO I'M GOING TO TALK FIRST ABOUT THE CONDO.
EXCUSE ME. GENEVIEVE I HAVE JUST TO CLARIFY.
SO ALL TOGETHER THERE WOULD BE 46 CONDOS.
IS THAT IS THAT TRUE? I BELIEVE THOSE ARE JUST WINDOWS.
I DON'T REMEMBER. I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THEM ARE LOFTS.
BUT EITHER WAY, THEY'RE UNDER THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT.
I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALL TWO STORIES.
AND ACTUALLY WE CAN LOOK IN I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE AIR SPACE OWNERSHIP OF THE UNITS.
WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. BUT I BELIEVE I DON'T I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY LOFTS.
AND EACH. EACH UNIT JUST OCCUPIES ONE STORY, TOO, SO.
FEEL FREE TO JUST JUMP IN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
I'M HAPPY TO CLARIFY, BUT I'LL CONTINUE ON FOR NOW.
SO THIS IS THE CONDOMINIUM PLAT AGAIN.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT WOULD ALLOW THOSE 40 NEW UNITS TO BE SOLD SEPARATELY.
THEY THE UNITS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE CONDOS, THESE DARKER LINES RIGHT HERE.
SO THESE ARE ALL THE CONDO BUILDINGS AS WELL AS HERE, HERE AND HERE.
THESE LIGHTER LINES ARE EXISTING TOWNHOME AND GARAGE LOTS THAT ARE NOT A PART OF THIS PLAT.
THEY'RE A PART OF THE OTHER PLAT.
SO ANYWAY, SO THIS IS THE CONDOMINIUM PLAT, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THAT.
AND THEN I MENTIONED THE AIR SPACE.
SO UNFORTUNATELY IT'S A LITTLE BIT FUZZY, BUT I'LL TRY TO EXPLAIN IT.
SO THESE ARE THE VERTICAL BOUNDARIES OF THE UNITS.
THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE BUILDINGS.
AND THEN THIS ONE'S ACTUALLY MENTIONING THE AIR SPACE.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S CONDUIT IS BASICALLY THE WALLS OF THE INSIDE OF THE UNIT.
SO THE OUTERMOST INTERIOR WALLS OF EACH UNIT IS WHAT IS BEING CONDEMNED IN THIS PLAT.
SO IT'S SHOWING THE WIDTH OF EACH UNIT AS WELL AS THE HEIGHT.
SO AND THIS IS THE SECOND FLOOR UP HERE.
SO THAT'S SHOWING THE DIMENSIONS OF THE THE HEIGHT AND AS WELL AS THE THE WIDTH OF THE UNIT.
AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE BUILDINGS.
BUT THE PLAT INCLUDES THESE DIAGRAMS FOR FOR ALL OF THE UNITS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN THE PLOT.
CAN I ASK YOU TO EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BETTER? SURE. SO THE THIS THE DEAD AIR SPACE IS WHAT I'M NOT.
SO WOULD THAT BE IN BETWEEN THE CONDOS.
SO THAT'S CONSIDERED A COMMON ELEMENT.
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IF THERE WERE COMMON AREAS OF THIS BUILDING OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED.THAT'S BASICALLY OWNED BY THE HOA AND THE HOA IS COMPOSED OF ALL THE OWNERS OF THE CONDO.
SO THEY BASICALLY SHARE IN THE OWNERSHIP OF ALL THE COMMON AREAS.
SO THAT'S REALLY HOW CONDO PLAT WORKS.
AND THEN CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FORMER? YEAH. SO YOU SHOWED WHERE THE PARKING WAS, BUT THEN YOU SHOWED SOME OF THE CONDO UNITS WOULD BE PRETTY FAR AWAY.
SO THESE UNITS ARE GOING TO HAVE PARKING SPACES ON THIS TRACT, BUT IT IS NOT.
THIS TRACT A IS PART OF THE CONDOMINIUM EXCUSE ME, THE TOWNHOME PLAT, NOT THE CONDO PLAT.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE UPDATE OF THIS PLAT.
AND RIGHT NOW IT'S THE SAME OWNER.
SO THEY JUST BASICALLY RECORD AN EASEMENT AND THAT SETTLES THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE PLATS HAVE TO GO TOGETHER.
SO TALKING ABOUT THE AIR SPACE, SO YEAH, THIS IS TYPICAL OF ALL CONDO PLATS.
SO HERE'S THAT SLIDE I MENTIONED THAT I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
SO YEAH, LIMITED COMMON ELEMENTS.
AGAIN, THOSE ARE JUST THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH SPECIFIC UNITS LIKE STAIRS THAT ACCESS ONE UNIT OR PORCHES, DECKS, PARKING SPACES IF APPLICABLE IN ANY OTHER UNITS THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE UNIT BUT NOT ACTUALLY INSIDE OF IT.
AND THEN AGAIN, THE COMMON ELEMENTS ARE SHARED AMONG ALL CONDOMINIUM OWNERS.
SO THAT'S ANY SHARED STAIRWAY OR AREA BETWEEN THE FLOOR PLATES.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT LAND IS FOR OPEN SPACE, RESOURCE PROTECTION, ACCESS, ETC.
AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PLAT.
SO HERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE JUST OF THE CONDO PLAT.
THIS IS A SCREENSHOT, SO IT'S IN THE PLOT THAT YOU'VE ALREADY RECEIVED, BUT IT'S SHOWING THESE.
SO JUST CLARIFYING WHERE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE UNITS ARE.
FOR EVERY UNIT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS PLAT.
OKAY. SO MOVING ON TO THE TOWNHOME PLAT, WE HAVE WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE PURPOSE AGAIN IS TO REMOVE SOME TOWNHOME LOTS, FOR LOTS THAT WERE NEVER DEVELOPED. THOSE ARE THE ONES IN RED RIGHT HERE.
SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST REASON WHY WE HAVE THIS TOWNHOME PLAT BEFORE YOU TODAY, BUT THEN ALSO MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY JUST CLARIFYING ACCESS ON THIS TRACK DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE OWNERS OF THE NEW CONDOS ARE ABLE TO TO PARK IN EXCESS HERE SO WE CAN SEE.
SO THIS IS THE OLD THIS IS HOW THE PLAT CURRENTLY LOOKS.
AND WITH THIS UPDATED TOWNHOME PLAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT.
SO WE SEE THESE LOT LINES THAT WERE HERE, HERE AND HERE IN HERE ARE NO LONGER THERE.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS TOWNHOME IS DOING.
AND SO THEIR COMPLIANCE WITH TITLE 10 OF THE FLAGSTAFF ZONING CODE, THAT TITLE 11, WHICH IS GENERAL PLANS AND SUBDIVISIONS, FOCUSING SPECIFICALLY ON THE SUBDIVISION SECTION AND THEN TITLE 13, WHICH IS THE ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARDS AND SPECIFICATION.
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SO I HAVE STATED IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF REPORT AND I'LL SAY TODAY THAT STAFF DOES FEEL THESE PLATS MEET THESE FINDINGS.I'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THEM AND THEY ARE ELABORATED IN DETAIL IN THAT STAFF REPORT.
SO THAT'S I'LL GO INTO EACH ONE OF THOSE FINDINGS AND I'M HAPPY TO AGAIN ANSWER QUESTIONS AS NEEDED.
SO THE FIRST FINDING IS COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING CODE.
SO THAT'S TITLE 10 OF CITY CODE.
SO PART OF THAT IS MEETING THE ZONING STANDARDS.
SO WE HAVE THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONE STANDARDS.
WE ALLOW DENSITY RANGES 6 TO 9 UNITS.
THE PROPOSED IS IS 9 UNITS PER ACRE.
THE MIXED ZONE ALLOWS A LOT COVERAGE OF UP TO 40%.
THIS DEVELOPMENT ONLY PROPOSING 12%.
AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE PROPOSING THEY'RE AT THE MINIMUM SETBACKS.
AND THEN THE HEIGHT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 35 FEET.
AND THE THE PROPOSED THE TALLEST BUILDING THAT'S PROPOSED IS 34 FEET, 9 INCHES.
SO IT DOES MEET ALL OF THOSE THOSE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONE STANDARDS.
ANOTHER PART OF THE ZONING CODE IS RESOURCE PROTECTION.
SO WE'RE NOT UPDATING IT TODAY.
IT'S JUST A REFERENCE JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT THE RESOURCE PROTECTION STANDARDS ARE STILL BEING MET.
SO ANYWAY, SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOT CHANGING.
THIS STAYS THE SAME FROM THE PLAN THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED.
BUT JUST TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW THAT IT STILL IS MEETING THOSE RESOURCE PROTECTION STANDARDS.
ANOTHER PART OF THE ZONING CODE IS PARKING, LANDSCAPING AND PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE STANDARDS.
SO 87 OR 85 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 87 ARE PROVIDED ACROSS THE DEVELOPMENT.
A LANDSCAPING PLAN WAS APPROVED WITH CIVIL PLANS.
THAT WAS IN JULY 2020, ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO.
AND IT MET THOSE REQUIREMENTS THROUGH NEW AND EXISTING TREES.
AND THERE ARE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS FROM THE UNITS BETWEEN EACH OTHER AND FROM PINE KNOLL AS WELL.
SO CITY STAFF, TRAFFIC STAFF, WATER SERVICES, STAFF AND STORMWATER STAFF REVIEWED THE THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, THE PREVIOUS PLAT UPDATE AS WELL AS THE SITE PLAN, CIVIL PLANS, BUILDING PERMIT AND THEN THESE TWO PLATS THAT ARE UNDER YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY.
SO SOME OF A LOT OF THIS STUFF WAS DECIDED SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN THIS WAS IN SITE PLAN REVIEW.
SO THIS IS JUST A RECAP OF THE SITE PLAN REVIEW.
BASICALLY THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR THE ORIGINAL RIO HOMES DEVELOPMENT.
THERE WAS ONE DONE IN THE MID 2000.
SO BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF UNITS PROPOSED WAS APPROXIMATELY THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED ON THAT SITE, A NEW EXCUSE ME, A NEW TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS NOT REQUIRED.
THE DEVELOPMENT IS TAKING ACCESS OFF OF JEN DRIVE AND EMMA DRIVE.
AND AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE DRIVEWAYS WERE EXPANDED TO ACCOMMODATE FIRE AND TRASH VEHICLES.
SECONDLY, WATER SEWER IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS APPROVED FOR THE ORIGINAL RIO HOMES DEVELOPMENT WATER SERVICES WAIVED REQUIREMENT TO DO ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE WHAT WAS PROPOSED WAS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE THE PREVIOUS WATER SEWER IMPACT ANALYSIS.
SO THEY DIDN'T, DIDN'T NEED TO DO ANOTHER ONE.
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PER CITY CODE.SO THE LAST FINDING FOR APPROVAL IS SUBDIVISION STANDARDS.
SO THAT'S TITLE 10, SPECIFICALLY THE SUBDIVISION AND LAND SPLIT REGULATIONS.
THAT'S THE SECTION OF CITY CODE THAT IS APPLICABLE TO PLATS TO BOTH PLATS.
FOLLOW THE PRELIMINARY PLOT PROCEDURES AND APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
THEY ALSO MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THOSE ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH PUBLIC SYSTEMS ANALYZES.
SO THAT'S WHAT I JUST DISCUSSED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
AND THEN THERE'S A THIRD CATEGORY IN THIS SECTION.
IT'S CALLED SUBDIVISION STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS.
BUT THESE ACTUALLY REALLY ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO THESE PLATS BECAUSE THEY'RE CONDO PLOTS.
SO THOSE ONES AREN'T REALLY APPLICABLE.
BUT I JUST MENTIONED THEM HERE JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS IN THE CODE.
SO THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE IN TERMS OF GOING OVER THE PRESENTATION.
SO I'LL JUST SUMMARIZE BY RESTATING THAT STAFF HAS FOUND BOTH PRELIMINARY PLATS MEET THE REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL AGAIN, WHICH INCLUDE CONFORMANCE WITH CITY CODE TITLE 10, 11 AND 13.
ALL RIGHT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
MY FIRST QUESTION IS IF YOU COULD TOUCH ON.
SO I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE BEDROOM COUNT IS ON THESE CONDOMINIUMS. AND THEN THEREFORE, THAT KIND OF SEGUES INTO A BEDROOM COUNT IS WHAT YOU USE TO DO THE MATH ON THE PARKING SPACES.
WELL SO THERE'S THE EXISTING TOWNHOMES.
AND THOSE WERE PERMITTED UNDER A DIFFERENT CODE.
SO I DON'T CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS WERE AT THAT TIME, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, 15 SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND THEN FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT LOOKS LIKE 70.
73 SPACES ARE REQUIRED OR 72 SPACES.
SO THERE ARE THERE DIVIDED UP BETWEEN THE TWO AREAS AND TRY AND DO THE MATH.
IN MY HEAD IT LOOKS LIKE 22 BEDROOM UNITS.
SO THERE'S ANOTHER FIVE GUEST SPACES.
SO THAT BRINGS THEM DOWN TO 85 AND THEY'RE PROVIDING 87.
AND THEN MY SECOND COMMENT IS, I'M PLEASED TO SEE A PRODUCT OF THIS TYPE CONDOMINIUMS FOR SALE, BECAUSE WE DO NEED MORE OF THIS HOUSING TYPE. IT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE TEN YEAR HOUSING PLAN AS PART OF THE MISSING MIDDLE PRODUCT TYPE.
SO I'M PLEASED TO SEE CONDOMINIUMS COMING TO THE MARKET AND THAT THEY'LL BE FOR SALE FOR OWNERSHIP.
HOWEVER, WHEN YOU HAVE APARTMENTS, THOSE DON'T GET USED FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS, WHEREAS CONDOMINIUMS ARE MORE AFFORDABLE AND OFTENTIMES INVITE, YOU KNOW, INVESTOR PURCHASED SHORT TERM RENTALS, ETC..
SO I WAS WONDERING, YOU KNOW, FOR THE APPLICANT IF IF THERE ARE CCNRS THAT THEY MIGHT CONSIDER LIMITING THE SHORT TERM RENTALS TO MORE THAN 30 DAYS TO GIVE OUR LOCAL FULL TIME RESIDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY OWN ONE OF THESE CONDOMINIUMS JUST IN AN EFFORT TO COMBAT
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OUR IDENTIFIED HOUSING CRISIS, BECAUSE THE APARTMENTS WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN USED FOR.LOCAL RESIDENTS, WHEREAS CONDOMINIUMS ARE GOING TO INVITE OTHER USAGES AND OTHER PURCHASERS.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M PLEASED TO SEE THIS PRODUCT TYPE COME BEFORE US.
FIRST AND THEN WE CAN GET BACK THAT.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND WOULD THEY LIKE TO SPEAK? TELL US SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
YOUR PROJECT OR HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.
BLAKE, ARE YOU AVAILABLE? THERE YOU ARE. HEY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. HI.
THANKS, EVERYBODY, FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR QUESTIONS.
YEAH, WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT WE WERE LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE MONSTROSITIES GOING UP OVER TOWN, AND WE REALLY WANTED TO GO AWAY FROM THAT AND PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE.
TO THE BIG ROWS OF APARTMENTS AND HEAVY DENSITY AND CREATE SOMETHING THAT WAS A LOT MORE, I THINK, FITTING FOR FLAGSTAFF AND BOTH ESTHETICALLY.
AND I THINK WHAT THE MARKET WANTS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL FOLKS HERE ARE AWARE OF THE SITE, BUT IT PROVIDES A LOT OF REALLY NICE TREE LINED VIEWS.
THERE'S A NICE RAVINE THAT GOES BETWEEN JEN DRIVE AND EMMA DRIVE.
THAT IS ALL COMMON AREA AND WE'RE NOT DISTURBING THAT AT ALL.
AND SO WE'VE CREATED A PRODUCT THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.
WE THINK IT LOOKS REALLY GREAT.
AND 1 TO 2 BEDROOMS, I THINK IS A GOOD MARKET FOR FLAGSTAFF, WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO ALSO SHARE A BATHROOM WITH FOUR OTHER STRANGERS.
AND SO THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN RECEIVED PRETTY WELL SO FAR THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN.
AND I THINK I THINK WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT.
WE'RE HAPPY WITH HOW THIS TURNED OUT. OKAY.
I WANTED TO MAYBE I'LL FOLLOW UP ON MARY'S QUESTION OR THOUGHTS ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS. DO YOU HAVE A AND THEN I'LL GET TO YOU, CAROLE.
DO YOU HAVE AN EXISTING HOA OR CONDO ASSOCIATION AT THAT LOCATION? DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL ALL BE ONE CONDO ASSOCIATION FOR ALL PROPERTY? WILL YOU HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT IN SETTING THAT UP, ETC.? SURE. YEAH, GOOD QUESTION.
THERE WILL BE ONE HOA THAT WILL GOVERN THAT ENTIRE COMMUNITY BOTH ON JEN DRIVE AND EMMA DRIVE.
THERE IS CCNRS TO MAINTAIN THE COMMUNITY AND STANDARDS.
WE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY INTENT TO LIMIT THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP, WHETHER IT BE SHORT TERM OR LONG TERM.
AS FAR AS RENTALS, THE MARKET HAS CHANGED SO DRASTICALLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH CONSTRUCTION PRICES GOING OUT, THE ROOF SUPPLY SHORTAGES IN THIS PROJECT TAKING A LOT LONGER.
I THINK A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE IN OUR SAME POSITION HAVE FOLDED AND NOT GONE THROUGH WITH IT.
IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING CONSTRUCTION MARKET, AS I'M SURE A LOT OF YOU KNOW.
AND SO WE WE WE AIM TO SEEK AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY.
HAVING SAID THAT, I'M A LOCAL FLAGSTAFF I HAVE THREE KIDS AND A WIFE AND FAMILY HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.
AND I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT HOUSING IS.
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OURSELVES IN THAT SENSE DUE TO WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH CONSTRUCTION JUST KEEPS GOING UP AND UP AND UP AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT REALLY, REALLY HARD FOR BUILDERS, AND IT ALREADY IS. AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS, WE AIM NOT TO LIMIT THE CCNRS IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT DOES NOT WITHOUT DOES NOT RESTRICT SHORT TERM RENTALS OR ANY RENTALS.SO I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE THE ASSUMPTION, SINCE I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY OF THESE UNITS BEING FOR LOW INCOME, YOU'RE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE THE LOW INCOME ASSISTANCE FOR THESE UNITS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THERE WAS A AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT OF THIS PLAT ORIGINALLY THAT'S BEEN SATISFIED WITH THE PREVIOUS PLATS.
I'M JUST. I KNOW THE MARKET IS CRAZY, SO.
LET'S JUST SAY IF YOU WERE TO SELL THESE TODAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK THESE UNITS MIGHT SELL FOR IN TODAY'S MARKET? I KNOW THEY'RE NOT BUILT YET.
RESPECTFULLY, THAT'S A REALLY TOUGH QUESTION AND IT'S VERY FLUID.
AND I AM NOT IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN ANSWER ON THAT BECAUSE, AGAIN, CONSTRUCTION PRICES ARE RISING AND WE HAVE TO COVER OUR COST.
AND SO THESE THINGS ARE MOVING AS WE BUILD THEM.
AND SO I DON'T MEAN I DON'T INTEND TO I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT I WORKED AT NAU FOR 33 YEARS AND NAU DOESN'T HAVE THE BEST SALARIES.
AND SO I'M HOPING THAT SOME OF THESE UNITS WOULD BE AVAILABLE.
I MEAN, THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY, BUT THEY'RE CLOSE TO NAU.
I KNOW A LOT OF STUDENTS LIVE IN THE APARTMENT PARTS OF THE THE RIO HOMES BUT I WAS MY HOPE IS THAT SOME OF THE NAU PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD THINGS IN THIS TOWN MAY BE ABLE TO AFFORD THESE.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE MARKET AND ALL OF THAT.
AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY PART OF A PLAT APPROVAL, BUT WHEN YOU'RE ASKING TO GO FROM APARTMENTS TO CONDOS, THEN IT DOES KIND OF BECOME A CONSIDERATION OF PRODUCT AND HOW THESE WILL BE SOLD AND WHAT THE INTENTION IS AND ALL OF THAT.
AND I THINK MY CONCERN WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN THEY ARE APARTMENTS, WE ARE ASSURED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS. THAT'S WHO'S RENTING THEM.
AND WHEN YOU START TO PUT THEM UP FOR SALE, YOU KNOW, THEN IT BE THEY BECOME POTENTIAL INVESTMENT PIECES AND OUR LOCAL PEOPLE GET OUTBID TIME AND TIME AGAIN BY INVESTORS THAT WANT TO USE THESE FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS.
I EVEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN SHORT TERM RENTALS.
BUT I THINK CONSIDERING LIMITING THEM TO 30 DAYS OR MORE REALLY, REALLY HELPS OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS TO HAVE A CHANCE.
SO I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER THAT AND CONSIDER THAT COMPROMISE.
THANKS FOR CONSIDERING MY COMMENT.
I ECHO THAT BEFORE WE REBUILD OUR HOUSE.
I, WE WERE IN A CONDO AND THE, THE CONDO ASSOCIATION VOTED TO LIMIT TO 30 DAY RENTALS, WHICH MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
THERE HAD BEEN SOME PROBLEMS BEFORE THAT, AND IT REALLY DID MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
AND OF COURSE, IN A SITUATION LIKE YOURS, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE VOTING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE FIRST BUYERS.
IT'S A QUESTION WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ASKING, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR SPEAKER.
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EXPRESSED. AND MARY, I SEE YOUR HAND AGAIN.YEAH, NO, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON TO THAT BECAUSE I LIVE IN A TOWN HOME.
AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE THOSE INITIAL CCNRS ARE WRITTEN, IT'S VERY HARD NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THEM CHANGED AND REWRITTEN, AMENDED, PASSED.
SO IT BECOMES EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAT THEY BE WRITTEN CORRECTLY AT THE START.
SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD THAT'S WHY I SEEK TO ENCOURAGE ANYBODY THAT COMES BEFORE US WHEN THERE'S AN HOA AND CCNRS THAT THEY PUT THOSE PROVISIONS IN THERE FROM THE START.
I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS. MARY I THINK THAT'S.
OH, YOU KNOW, I NEVER CALLED FOR I JUST REALIZED THAT I NEVER ON THE LAST TWO ISSUES, I NEVER CALLED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH I APOLOGIZE FOR COMPLETELY FORGOT. AND URSULA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE WITH THE APPLICANT OR IF YOU'RE JUST A PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT.
WE DEFINITELY WILL HAVE IF IT IS A PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'LL HEAR THEM NOW.
OKAY. I AM A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
I LIVE IN PINE KNOLL VILLAGE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPOSED PROJECT.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONERS, A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS THAT BROUGHT UP THE THE ISSUE ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS, BECAUSE THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM, NOT ONLY HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, AS YOU'VE PROBABLY READ ABOUT SEDONA AND SCOTTSDALE AND AND AND THE THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.
WE HAVE AN HOA, A IT'S A TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT, AND WE DO NOT ALLOW ANY SHORT TERM RENTALS.
SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AT LEAST LIMIT IT TO A 30 DAY RENTAL.
WHEREAS LIKE I SAY, HERE IN PINE KNOLL VILLAGE, WE DON'T ALLOW THEM AT ALL.
BUT BUT AT LEAST A 30 DAY LIMIT.
IT'S IT'S IT'S JUST BECOME A REAL, REAL PROBLEM HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.
AND ESPECIALLY IN THIS IN THIS AREA, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE HAVE SO MANY APARTMENTS AND IT'S STUDENT HOUSING, HOWEVER MUCH I DIDN'T KNOW WHICH COMMISSIONER SAID, YOU KNOW, THE APARTMENTS PROVIDE HOUSING FOR LOCALS.
IT'S IT'S MOSTLY STUDENTS AND AND IT'S PARTYING AND IT AND IT'S IT MAKES FOR VERY DIFFICULT RELATIONSHIPS WITH WITH NEIGHBORS THAT ARE VERY TRANSIENT AND AND DON'T HAVE THE THE COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS IF THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS WHEN THIS WAS GOING TO BE AN APARTMENT UNIT, IS WHAT IS BEING USED FOR THESE UNITS.
I STILL HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SCREENING AND THE LANDSCAPING BETWEEN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE PINE KNOLL VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS REALLY GOING TO BE INADEQUATE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, AT THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT, THERE'S LOTS OF PARKING IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO PINE VILLAGE AND WITH NO FENCING BEING BEING PROPOSED.
AND I THINK THAT THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPER, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ASKED IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, I STILL THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO ADDRESS.
AND I JUST HAD ONE, ONE QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO THAT PLAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THE PARKING SPACES HAVE TO BE TEN FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT IT SORT OF SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE CLOSER THAN TEN FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, FROM THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
THANK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS, URSULA.
I'M GOING TO INVITE BLAKE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE PERSON ASKED.
[02:00:02]
YEAH. THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, URSULA.THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND GONE ROUND ABOUT AND AND LOOKED FURTHER INTO.
AND AS WE PREVIOUSLY INDICATED TO URSULA IS THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT BENEFITS OTHER THAN BLOCKING.
I THINK THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC GOING GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT ADVANTAGE IS FENCING IS GOING TO REQUIRE THERE.
THIS PARKING LOT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BLOCK, FOR EXAMPLE, CAR LIGHTS COMING IN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THE VIEWS OF THEIR WINDOWS ARE GOING TO BE OVER A FENCE LINE.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS JUST ESTHETICALLY.
IT'S VERY IT LOOKS VERY FLAGSTAFF, VERY NATIVE.
AND TO CONSTRUCT A LARGE WALL BETWEEN OUR TWO PROPERTIES IS, IS, IS NOT OF INTEREST OF US FROM AN ESTHETIC STANDPOINT.
AND ALSO, WE DON'T FEEL THAT THERE'S ENOUGH ADVANTAGES THAT WOULD COME FROM BLOCKING OUR PROPERTY OFF FROM THE OTHER.
THERE'S A REALLY NICE NATURAL LOOK RIGHT NOW.
THEY'VE GOT SOME KIND OF NICE NATURAL FENCING.
IT'S NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL DECORATIVE.
BUT THAT'S THE LOOK THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND.
I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE WORD WALL AS OPPOSED TO FENCE, BECAUSE I WOULD PREFER A WALL JUST FROM THE NOISE OF THAT MANY CARS STARTING UP AND IT COMING AND GOING ALL DAY LONG AND HALF THE NIGHT.
SO IT WOULD AT LEAST BUFFER SOME OF THAT NOISE IF THERE WERE A WALL.
AND AND I DO NOT KNOW, BLAKE, THAT THAT IS THAT ESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO AS IT IS. I GO BY THERE EVERY DAY.
AND SO I WOULD HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU AS TO HOW ESTHETICALLY PLEASING IT IS.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT NATURAL RESOURCES MAP OR PLAN THAT WAS THERE AND THAT GENEVIEVE PROVIDED, AND I WAS COUNTING THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT WERE REMOVED FROM THAT SITE WHEN WHEN THEY WERE PLANNING TO DO THE ORIGINAL RIO HOMES FOR PROJECT THERE.
AND I THINK I COUNTED LIKE 50 TREES THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THAT SITE.
I THINK THEY LEFT ONE ONE TREE.
SO I DO BEG TO DIFFER WITH YOU SOMEWHAT AS TO HOW YOU'RE YOU'RE PAINTING HOW THIS SITE IS CURRENTLY LANDSCAPED, BUT NOT IT'S NOT NATURAL ANYMORE.
I THINK I JUST I JUST WANT TO MENTION AT THIS POINT THAT THE FINDING FOR THIS CASE IS WHETHER IT MEETS THE ZONING CODE THAT OR PART OF THE ZONING CODE THAT APPLIES TO IT.
AND I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE APPLICANT TO HEAR THE COMMENTS AS WELL.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE HE HAS HEARD SOME OF THESE BEFORE, TOO.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THEM UP.
AND SAME WITH THE WITH THE HOA AND THE ISSUES THERE.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN'T VOTE BASED ON THAT.
WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE 30 DAY RENTALS OR NOT, WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND LET THE LET THE APPLICANT KNOW THAT WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
AND COUNCIL CAN HEAR THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL, BECAUSE COUNCIL WILL HEAR THIS CASE.
IS THAT RIGHT GENEVIEVE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES THAT'S CORRECT.
[02:05:01]
THE COUNCIL DATE IS I BELIEVE IT'S JULY 5TH.OKAY. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING FOR THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER.
THEY'LL BE MAKING THEIR CASE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, TOO.
SO I JUST I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.
AND GENEVIEVE, WAS THERE SOMETHING ELSE TOO BECAUSE YOU HAD YOUR HANDS UP BEFORE THEN.
YEAH. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JONES.
YOU COVERED MOST OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO ADD.
SO IT WAS NOT PART OF THE SITE PLAN REVIEW AND THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS ON THAT NORTHERN EDGE OF THIS PROPERTY DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PERIPHERAL BUFFER LANDSCAPING.
SO AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS APPROVED WITH THE WITH A CIVIL PLAN.
SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THIS IS AN APPROVED PROJECT.
AND I DON'T SEE ANY MORE HANDS RAISED FOR DISCUSSION ON THIS.
SO I'M WONDERING IF SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
ACTUALLY, YES, WE HAVE TWO MOTIONS DON'T WE.
YES, THAT'S CORRECT. IF YOU CAN VOTE ON THE -07 PLAT FIRST, I BELIEVE THAT'S FIRST IN THE AGENDA THAT ONE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED BEFORE WE CAN APPROVE THE CONDO PLAT. SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST MOTION TO MAKE.
OKAY. THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT PZ 19 00019-07 TO FOR APPROVAL FOR RIO HOMES UNIT FOUR MULTIFAMILY A SIX UNIT MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOME SUBDIVISION TO THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FINDINGS AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE FORWARD THE PRELIMINARY PLAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL DO YOU NEED THE SITE LOCATION AND THINGS IN THAT.
OKAY. THIS IS COMMISSIONER NORTON.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? OKAY ON THE MOTION THAT WAS JUST MADE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE, AYE.
SO THE NEXT WE'RE READY FOR THE NEXT MOTION.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO TAKE A DIVE.
THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT PZ 19 00019-06 TO BE FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE FINDINGS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FINDINGS OF STAFF.
THIS COMMISSIONER PAUL SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT BEFORE WE VOTE? OKAY, THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SAY AYE, AYE.
AND THAT'S THE END OF OUR PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
I SO WE HAVE ITEMS TO AND FROM.
[7. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS TO/FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS]
I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT I WANTED TO MAKE.I'M GOING TO BE KIND OF OUT OF COMMISSION, SO TO SPEAK, FOR AT LEAST JULY.
I'M GETTING A LONG AWAITED KIDNEY TRANSPLANT.
AND SO I WILL PROBABLY NOT BE VERY CLEAR HEADED FOR A LITTLE WHILE, WHILE I'M IN RECOVERY.
SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT, MARIE.
I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY HARD TO GO THROUGH, BUT CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT SURGERY.
[02:10:04]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.I AM I'M NOT EXACTLY EXCITED, BUT KIND OF EXCITED.
WELL, HOPEFULLY IT'LL EXTEND YOUR LIFE A LONG TIME.
SO AND I'D LIKE TO I ALSO WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT I'M TAKING VACATION FROM THE 1ST OF JULY UNTIL THE 17TH OF JULY.
SO I WILL NOT BE HERE IN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF AUGUST.
I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE BECAUSE I'LL BE BABYSITTING AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN CONTROL KIDS AND TWO LITTLE BOYS AND BEYOND THE CALL AT THE SAME TIME.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR MEETINGS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE, I THINK IS OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING ON THE 10TH OF AUGUST OR THE 3RD OF AUGUST.
IT WOULD IT WOULD BE THE 10TH, RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING THE SECOND.
THE 10TH OF AUGUST THE 10TH AND THE 24TH.
YEAH, I'LL BE AVAILABLE THE 24TH.
BUT THE 10TH I'LL BE IN NEVADA WATCHING TWO LITTLE BOYS THAT I DON'T THINK I'LL HAVE ANY HELP WITH.
I WON'T BE HERE ON THE 6TH OF JULY.
NO, IT WOULD BE THE 13TH AND THE 27TH THE SECOND.
THEN I WON'T BE HERE ON THE 13TH.
BUT I WILL BE HERE ON THE 27TH.
OKAY. ANY OTHER VACATIONS OR ANYTHING.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE COMMISSION? SO CONGRATULATIONS, MARIE.
THANKS. AND OTHER THAN THAT, WE ARE GOOD.
OKAY. SO WISHING YOU WELL, MARIE.
I HOPE EVERYTHING GOES WELL AND YOU HEAL QUICKLY.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.