Jun 28, 2022 City Council Work Session

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE EVERYONE, REALLY APPRECIATE IT,

[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this work session, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]

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>> MAYOR DEASY.

>> HERE.

>> VICE MAYOR SWEET.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER, ASLAN.

COUNCILMEMBER ASLAN.

COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.

COUNCILMEMBER SALAS.

COUNCILMEMBER SALAS. MAYOR, I SEE BOTH COUNCILMEMBER ASLAN AND COUNCILMEMBER SALAS ON OUR ONLINE MEETING, JUST FOR YOUR NOTING.

>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE QUORUM REGARDLESS, I'M SURE THEY'RE ABOUT TO POP RIGHT ON HERE SO WE CAN MOVE RIGHT AHEAD.

>> VICE MAYOR, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE.

>> [NOISE] THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY, OUR MISSION STATEMENT, PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU, AND I'LL TAKE THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT THIS EVENING.

THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THIS AREA'S INDIGENOUS NATIONS AND ORIGINAL STEWARDS.

THESE LANDS STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS, BORDER MOUNTAINS SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.

WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.

WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE AS HOME.

[4. Public Participation Public Participation enables the public to address the council about items that are not on the prepared agenda. Public Participation appears on the agenda twice, at the beginning and at the end of the work session. You may speak at one or the other, but not both. Anyone wishing to comment at the meeting is asked to fill out a speaker card and submit it to the recording clerk. When the item comes up on the agenda, your name will be called. You may address the Council up to three times throughout the meeting, including comments made during Public Participation. Please limit your remarks to three minutes per item to allow everyone to have an opportunity to speak. At the discretion of the Chair, ten or more persons present at the meeting and wishing to speak may appoint a representative who may have no more than fifteen minutes to speak.]

I DO HAVE CHERYL WALGREEN. YOU'D LIKE TO COME AND CHAT?

>>THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

YOU WILL HAVE TO EXCUSE MY APPEARANCE TODAY, BUT I HAVE BEEN CLEANING OUT CITY DRAINAGE DITCHES TODAY.

I LIVE AT 615 WEST CHERRY AVENUE AND I HAVE A CITY EASEMENT DRAINAGE RUNNING THROUGH MY PROPERTY, WHICH I PAY SOMEONE TO CLEAN TWICE A YEAR TO KEEP THE WATER FLOWING.

MY ISSUE IS THE HOUSE BEHIND ME IS A RENTAL AND HAS NOT BEEN OCCUPIED FOR A YEAR AND THAT MAKES A PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DEBRIS IN THEIR DRAINAGE DITCH, WHICH WHEN WE HAVE A BIG RAIN EVENT LIKE WE RECENTLY DID, ALL OF THAT GETS JAMMED UP INTO THE STREET DRAINAGE AND NO WATER CAN FLOW, WHICH BACKS UP ONTO MY PROPERTY, THREATENING MY PROPERTY AND FLOODS OUR ENTIRE STREET, THREATENING SEVERAL OTHER HOUSES.

I HAVE SPOKEN WITH CHRIS PALMER FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS ASKING TO HAVE THIS PROBLEM SOLVED.

HE HAS, I BELIEVE, CITED TO PEOPLE THAT OWN THAT PROPERTY BEHIND ME, BUT TO NO AVAIL.

I HAVE PERSONALLY TRESPASSED AND PULLED OUT A 100 FEET OF HOSE, A WHEELCHAIR, A WALKER, BRANCHES, UNBELIEVABLE STUFF TO ALLOW THE WATER TO FLOW THROUGH THERE.

NOW, I HAVE ASKED IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR A REGULAR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM THAT I COULD BE ON THAT LIST SO THAT THESE DITCHES COULD BE CLEANED OUT IN MAY BEFORE WE HAVE THE BIG RAIN EVENTS.

I WAS TOLD THAT THERE IS NO REGULAR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FOR THE CITY, WHICH I WAS QUITE SURPRISED TO HEAR.

WE ALL DO REGULAR MAINTENANCE ON OUR HOMES AND CARS SO SURELY THE CITY MUST HAVE SOME KIND OF REGULAR MAINTENANCE.

I HAVE BEEN SPENDING MY OWN TIME, LABOR, EFFORT, SWEAT, AND MONEY TO CLEAN UP THESE DITCHES.

PAUL, YOU CAME TO MY DOOR ASKING FOR ME TO VOTE FOR YOU AGAIN.

NOW, I AM ASKING YOU FOR HELP WITH THIS ISSUE, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AND LOOKING INTO THIS.

I WAS TOLD BY CHRIS THAT I'M ON THE LIST TO GET

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I HAVE CLEANED IT AGAIN MYSELF, AND AS I SAY, I'M TRESPASSING ON THIS PROPERTY, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE OR THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOODS SUFFERS.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE SOME HELP WITH THIS MATTER AND I THANK YOU [NOISE] FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, CHERYL AND SHAWN IF YOU COULD GET CHERYL'S CONTACT INFORMATION SO WE CAN HELP ADDRESS THIS ISSUE I'D APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. THERE IS AN INDIVIDUAL ON LINE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE KAYLA RIGNEY ONLINE.

KAYLA, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF.

>> HI. I'M SPEAKING ALONG THE SAME LINES.

I'VE LIVED IN FLAGSTAFF SINCE 1990, AT THE SAME ADDRESS.

MY HOUSE IS NEVER FLOODED.

I'VE NEVER PRESENTED A FLOOD CLAIM, I'VE NEVER EVEN HAD AN INSURANCE CLAIM.

MY HOUSE BACKS A DRAINAGE AND IT'S ACTUALLY MAINTAINED TO FEMA STANDARDS.

IN 2020, MY INSURANCE PREMIUM WAS $456 A YEAR.

IN 2022, I DECIDED THAT I WAS GOING TO CARRY INSURANCE AGAIN, I HAD TO STOP INSURANCE DURING COVID JUST BECAUSE PRICES WENT UP, I WANTED TO CARRY IT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

I DOWNLOADED THE FIRMETTE MAP FROM A COCONINO COUNTY'S WEBSITE.

MY ADDRESS IS PINNED IN ZONE X, WHICH IS LOW-RISK, NO RISK.

WHEN I GO TO GET FLOOD INSURANCE THIS YEAR, FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES ONLY, FEMA HAS PUT MY HOUSE IN HIGH RISK.

I GO TO THE CITY OF FLAG, I CONTACT ED SCHENK, WONDERFUL, GAVE ME A FLOOD ZONE DETERMINATION USING FEMA'S SAME INFORMATION I'M ZONE X. I'M LOW-RISK TO NO RISK SO I CAN'T EVEN GET SAND BAGS TO PROTECT MY HOUSE BUT THE FLOOD INSURANCE THAT FEMA'S DECIDED I NEEDED TO PAY, THE LOWEST I CAN PAY IS 3,300 A YEAR AND FEMA RECOMMEND 6,300 A YEAR.

IT'S GONE FROM $456 UP TO 6,300 WITH NO FLOODING, NO CHANGES, MY HOUSE HASN'T MOVED, THE DRAINAGE HASN'T MOVED, THE RIO DE FLAG HASN'T MOVED, AND THE CITY USES FEMA'S FIRMETTE MAPS TO DETERMINE THAT I AM ZONE X, AND FEMA IS DETERMINING THAT I AM IN HIGH-RISK ONLY FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES ONLY.

I REALLY NEED HELP AND YOU HAVE MY EMAIL ALONG WITH ALL OF MY PROOFS.

KAYLA RIGNEY IS MY LEGAL DBA.

I CAN'T USE MY BIRTH NAME BECAUSE I WAS STALKED AND I CAN'T SAY MY ADDRESS OUT LOUD BUT YOU HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION.

THE SAD THING IS THAT THIS ISSUE AFFECTS 62 OTHER UNITS WHERE I LIVE.

IT'S NOT JUST ME WITH THIS INSANE RAISED INSURANCE RATE FOR NO REASON.

IF THE CITY OF FLAG AND FEMA SAY THAT I AM ZONE X FOR FLOOD ZONE DETERMINATION, THAT'S WHAT I SHOULD BE FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES TOO.

I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING [NOISE] TO ME AND IF YOU NEED TO CONTACT ME IT'S ALL IN THE INFORMATION IN MY EMAIL.

>> THANK YOU. [NOISE] I DO BELIEVE THAT WAS THE LAST PARTICIPANT FROM ONLINE, JUST TO CONFIRM.

>> YES MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU. THEN WE'RE DOWN TO JUNE ITEM 5,

[5. Review of Draft Agenda for the July 5, 2022 City Council Meeting Citizens wishing to speak on agenda items not specifically called out by the City Council may submit a speaker card for their items of interest to the recording clerk.]

ANY CONCERNS COUNCIL, QUESTIONS? MCCARTHY'S GOOD.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING ONLINE.

WITH THAT, WE CAN MOVE RIGHT ALONG.

WE'RE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 6 OUR PROCLAMATION FOR FLAGSTAFF ROTARY,

[6. Proclamation: Flagstaff Rotary 100th Anniversary]

COUNCIL, IF WE WANT TO GO UP FRONT AND EVERYONE WANT TO COME ON UP, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE THAT BARRIER RIGHT THERE, BUT [LAUGHTER] JUST GETS IN THE WAY.

[BACKGROUND]

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THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

NOW, THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS GRATEFUL FOR THE TREMENDOUS VALUE OF CIVIC ENGAGEMENT BY RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF SUPPORTS THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF FOR IT'S LONG AND LASTING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE BETTERMENT OF OUR CITIZENS.

THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF ACKNOWLEDGES THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF WAS CHARTERED IN 1921, MARKING 2021-22 AS THE CLUB'S MOMENTOUS CENTENNIAL ROTARY YEAR.

THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF RECOGNIZES THE COUNTLESS HOURS SPENT IN VOLUNTEERING BY THOUSANDS OF LOCAL ROTARIANS TO PROVIDE FLAGSTAFF AN IMPRESSIVE 100 CONSECUTIVE YEARS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE.

THEREFORE, I, PAUL, DC, MAYOR OF FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, DO HEREBY COMMEND THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENTS, AND OFFER OUR HEARTFELT GRATITUDE FOR IT'S ENDURING AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO SERVICE ABOVE SELF FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I DON'T KNOW WHO WANTS TO START.

>> I'LL START. [NOISE]

>> IF YOU WANT TO COME THIS WAY MIGHT BE A LITTLE EASIER.

[NOISE].

>> FIRST OFF.

>> IF YOU WANT TO.

>> GRAB THAT FOR YOU SO PEOPLE ONLINE CAN HEAR YOU AS WELL.

>> YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER, AND STAFF.

MY NAME IS ERIC WOLVERTON.

I'M A PAST PRESIDENT OF THE FLAGSTAFF ROTARY CLUB.

I'VE BEEN IN THE CLUB FOR 16 YEARS, AND EACH MEMBER HERE IS GOING TO JUST MENTION A MOMENTOUS OCCASION FOR US.

BUT IT SHOULD ALSO BE RECOGNIZED THAT EVERY SINGLE MONTH WE HAVE A MINIMUM OF ONE SERVICE PROJECT OR MORE TO HELP SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY OF FLAGSTAFF, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT WITH OUR MEMBERSHIP, AND WE ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO ADDING TO OUR MEMBERSHIP.

HOPEFULLY, SOME OF THESE THINGS WILL INTRIGUE YOU TO JOIN OUR EFFORTS.

WAY, WAY BACK ON DECEMBER 1ST, 1921, A GROUP OF 22 OF FLAGSTAFF'S BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS CHARTED THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF.

OVER THE YEARS, MANY OF FLAGSTAFF'S MOVERS AND SHAKERS WERE ROTARIANS WITH PROMINENT NAMES SUCH AS BABBITT, SCHWEITZER, KNOWLES, WILSON, MCCOY, FONTSKI, AND MANY MORE.

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>> I'M LARRY WHITE, A 20-YEAR ROTARIAN, 19 OF THOSE YEARS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND A YEAR HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

SINCE 1921, THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF HAS CONTRIBUTED TIME AND/OR MONEY TO OVER 100 LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS AND EVENTS, SERVING A VERY BROAD RANGE OF THE COMMUNITY NEEDS IN TWO PAGES AND THEY'RE LISTED IN THE SILVER PROGRAM THAT THE COUNCIL HAS. THANK YOU.

>> HELLO. I'M KIMBERLY BETTY HURU WITH COCONINO COMMUNITY COLLEGE, AND A 15-YEAR MEMBER OF ROTARY IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PLACES, INCLUDING FLAGSTAFF FOR FIVE YEARS NOW.

THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF HAS CONTRIBUTED MUCH TO OUR BELOVED BUFFALO PARK.

IN 1997, OUR CLUB BUILT A LARGE PICNIC RAMADA, WHICH WE LOVINGLY REFER TO AS THE ROTARY RAMADA.

A FEW YEARS LATER WE INSTALLED THE PAVERS EXTENDING THE FOOTPRINT FOR PICNICS AND OTHER EVENTS, AND EVERY TIME I GO TO THE PARK, I SEE THE RAMADA BEING USED BY MYRIAD LOCALS AND VISITORS.

THEN, IN 2008 AND 09, THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF INVESTED OVER $100,000, AND MORE THAN A 1,000 VOLUNTEER HOURS IN BUFFALO PARK.

WE MADE SIGNIFICANT RENOVATIONS TO THE ENTRANCE WAY, INSTALLED MISSING WOODEN GATES, REPLENISHED THE PLANT BEDS, INSTALLED TO NEW BENCHES MADE OUT OF 100 PERCENT RECYCLED MATERIALS,

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WE'VE PATCHED AND PAINTED THE BIG BROWN BUFFALO IN THE FRONT SEVERAL TIMES.

>> HELLO. I'M DELON LOPSON A LONG-TIME HOTELIER IN FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA.

I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE ROTARY CLUB FOR MORE THAN 16 YEARS.

IN OUR PROJECT MORE RECENTLY, THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF CONTRIBUTED SEVERAL 100 HOURS VOLUNTEERING AT THE FRANCIS SALT POND.

PARTNERING WITH THE CITY PARKS DEPARTMENT, WE BUILD THE OUTDOOR CLASSROOM, AMPHITHEATER, LANDSCAPE IT.

WE ALSO CLEANED UP AND RENOVATED THE INDOOR CLASSROOM IN THE OLD LOG CABIN.

ONCE A YEAR, WE DO SOME READING AND CLEAN UP THERE. THANK YOU.

>> HI. I'M MEREDITH PATSY, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, FIRE, THE FLAGSTAFF INTERNATIONAL RELIEF EFFORT, BEEN A MEMBER OF ROTARY SINCE 2011, FIRST IN MONGOLIA AND THEN HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF HAS CONTRIBUTED OVER $211,000 TO THE ROTARY FOUNDATION FOR INTERNATIONAL PROJECTS IN MEXICO, TANZANIA, BANGLADESH, AND MONGOLIA.

WE ARE ALSO THE CURRENT PARTNER FOR HEPATITIS-FREE MONGOLIA PHASE 1 AND 2, A PROJECT SPANNING MORE THAN SEVEN YEARS.

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>> HI. MY NAME IS STEVE SEDIVANTIS.

I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THIS ROTARY CLUB FOR ONE YEAR.

BURBERRY CARES ABOUT LOCAL YOUNG PEOPLE.

THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF HAS GIVEN NUMEROUS SCHOLARSHIPS TO LOCAL HIGH SCHOOLERS AND TO COCONINO COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS.

WE OFTEN HOSTED A STUDENT OF THE MONTH.

ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE SPONSORED SEVERAL INTERNATIONAL YOUTHS EXCHANGE.

BUT ROTARY ALSO CARES ABOUT LOCAL OLDER PEOPLE TOO.

OVER THE YEARS, THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF HAS HELPED DELIVER MEALS TO HOMEBOUND SENIORS, PACKED FOOD BOXES, HUNG HOLIDAY LIGHTS, AND ASSISTED WITH HOME MAINTENANCE, INCLUDING ONE TIME WE EVEN BEEN PAINTED THE WRONG HOUSE.

[LAUGHTER].

>> IT'S NOT A JOKE. [LAUGHTER]

>> I'M PAUL WAGNER. I'VE BEEN A ROTARIAN FOR 11 YEARS.

THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF IS CURRENTLY THE LEAD CLUB ON A $300,000 EXPENSIVE PROJECT TO PROVIDE CLEAN WATER AND SANITATION ON THE NAVAJO RESERVATION.

WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, ALMOST 70 HOMES BELONGING TO OUR FELLOW AMERICANS LIVING ON THE RAYS, WILL HAVE RUNNING WATER AND ELECTRICITY INSIDE THEIR HOMES FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME.

>> I'M CHRIS, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT THEATRICALS THEATER COMPANY AND A ROTARIAN FOR 21 YEARS.

THE ROTARY CLUB FLAGSTAFF SUPPORTS OUR LOCAL ECONOMY IN LOTS OF WAYS.

OVER THE YEARS WE'VE HELD OUR BIWEEKLY LUNCHES, SPECIAL EVENTS, AND NUMEROUS SOCIALS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES AT BUSINESSES AROUND THE CITY, AND OVER ALL THAT TIME, WE HAVE DEFINITELY HAD AN IMPACT ON THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY.

ALSO, THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF HAS HELPED SPAWN 12 OTHER CLUBS THROUGHOUT NORTHERN ARIZONA.

THEY COME TO US, THEY GET SPONSORED, AND WE HAVE SPREAD THE WORD OF COMMUNITY SERVICE, NOT JUST THROUGHOUT FLAGSTAFF, BUT THROUGHOUT ALL OF NORTHERN ARIZONA.

>> THANK YOU ALL. I'M BRINGING UP THE REAR SO YOU CAN EXHALE SHORTLY.

MY NAME IS TANIA WATSON.

I'M THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF, FOR HOW MANY HOURS? JUST A FEW MORE.

[LAUGHTER] A FEW MORE SECONDS, COMING QUICKLY, OUR YEAR RUNS JULY 1 THROUGH JUNE 30TH.

MOST RECENTLY, WE CREATED A LARGE MURAL, 20-FOOT BY 30-FOOT, JUST A COUPLE OF BLOCKS FROM HERE AND THE REAR OF PEACE SURPLUS.

WE UNVEILED THIS JUST LAST MONTH AND MAYOR WAS THERE.

THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING.

IT'S TITLED VOLUNTEERISM, A PATHWAY TO PEACE, AND IT ENSHRINES SOME OF ROTARY'S CORE VALUES, AS WELL AS SOME BELOVED ASPECTS OF FLAGSTAFF THAT WE ALL CARE ABOUT, LIKE MOUNTAINS, TREES, WIND, AND WILDFLOWERS, AND IT COMMEMORATES OUR VERY SPECIAL CENTENNIAL YEAR.

THIS MURAL IS IN LINE WITH THE CITY'S ALLEY ACTIVATION INITIATIVE, AND WAS PARTIALLY FUNDED WITH A GRANT FROM THE CITY'S BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ART COMMISSION BPACK.

YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD OF THAT.

PLEASE, WALK BY THE MURAL AGAIN, JUST SPITTING DISTANCE FROM HERE,

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NOW, ALSO IN OUR CLUBS LONG PAST, WE HAVE OFTEN HAD CITY OFFICIALS AND STAFF MEMBERS.

AS CLUB MEMBERS, SOME OF THE MORE RECENT ONES WERE STACY BUTTON AND CARL EBERHARD, WHICH I'M SURE FAMILIAR NAMES TO SOME OF YOU.

WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT LIAISON AGAIN.

IT'S ALWAYS PROVEN TO BE A WIN-WIN RELATIONSHIP.

LASTLY, AS OUR VISIBILITY GROWS, WE WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE OUR MEMBERSHIP AND OUR REACH.

THE ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CITY LEADERSHIP CONSIDER US A GO-TO ORGANIZATION WHENEVER YOU NEED A VIBRANT, STEADFAST, CIVIC, PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP THAT PRODUCES REAL RESULTS, ONLY SOME OF WHICH YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT TODAY.

ROTARIANS ARE PEOPLE OF ACTION.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CAN WE GET A QUICK PICTURE? WE COME BACK THIS WAY.

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>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE. I'LL JUST MENTION THAT COUNCILMEMBER SALAS ONLINE HAS SAID, "HAPPY 100TH ANNIVERSARY ROTARY CLUB OF FLAGSTAFF.

MUCH GRATITUDE FOR ALL THE CLUBS CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR BELOVED FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY." THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SALAS.

WITH THAT, WE'RE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 7, CITY MANAGER REPORT.

[7. City Manager Report Information Only]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL.

THIS REPORT AND I'LL JUST TOUCH ON A FEW TIDBITS HERE, BUT IT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY A MONTHLY REPORT FROM OUR IT DIVISION.

THEN WE GET TO CELEBRATE A FEW WORK ANNIVERSARIES.

I'LL START WITH THE MANAGERS REPORT.

WE'VE BEEN ATTENDING SOME CEREMONIES INVOLVING RETIREMENTS WITH OUR FLAGSTAFF FIRE DEPARTMENT PAT STASKIE WAS LAST WEEK, JUNE 24TH, RIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL OUTSIDE WHEN THE AMERICAN FLAG WAS LOWERED AND PRESENTED TO HIM BY HIS SON BY THE WAY.

IT WAS AN AMAZING AND VERY HEARTFELT CEREMONY.

WE ARE HAPPY FOR PAT STASKIE AND HIS FAMILY ON HIS WELL-DESERVED RETIREMENT.

THERE ARE RETIREMENTS THIS WEEK ALSO SHANNON AND I ATTENDED ONE YESTERDAY AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE TOMORROW.

LOOK FOR THOSE SUMMARIES IN THE NEXT MANAGERS REPORT, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO CALL THEM OUT.

BUT THEY'RE WONDERFUL CEREMONIES AND WELL ATTENDED.

WE'RE SORRY TO SEE OUR COLLEAGUES MOVING ON TO RETIREMENT, BUT WE'RE HAPPY FOR THEM.

VERY WELL-DESERVED RETIREMENTS.

ON JUNE 18TH, WE HAD YET ANOTHER CITY VOLUNTEERS DAY.

VERY SUCCESSFUL, QUITE A TURNOUT, BOTH MORNING AND AFTERNOON.

MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE.

WE KNOCKED OFF A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT DAY IN THE SUNNYSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS ANOTHER EVENT LAST WEEK I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND, BUT I HEARD IT WAS ALSO A SUCCESSFUL.

THEN STAY TUNED WE'LL BE CONTINUING WITH ANOTHER VOLUNTEER DAY IN EARLY JULY AS WE ENDEAVOR TO HELP THOSE NEED A LITTLE ASSISTANCE WITH THEIR SAND BAGS, REFRESHING THE SAND BAGS, [NOISE] PARDON ME, AND GETTING PEOPLE READY FOR THE MONSOON SEASON.

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WE HAD A WONDERFUL JUNETEENTH EVENT THAT SPANNED THE WEEKEND I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY ALONG WITH OUR CHIEF OF STAFF, AND ALONG WITH COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE, THE JUNETEENTH GALA AT THE HIGH COUNTRY CONFERENCE ROOM.

IT WAS WONDERFUL.

THE EVENING WAS BEAUTIFULLY ORCHESTRATED AND AS PART OF THE LIVED BLACK EXPERIENCE, THE FESTIVITIES AND EVENTS INCLUDED A DINNER, A SKIT, NUMEROUS AWARDS, CULTURAL DRESS, WHICH WAS FASCINATING.

A LOT OF ROLE-PLAYING AND VERY MEANINGFUL NARRATIVES.

THIS WAS A GREAT EVENT.

I WANT TO TAKE PAUSE HERE AND NOTE THERE WERE SOME AWARDS GIVEN OUT AND THE CITY COUNCIL WAS PRESENTED WITH AN AWARD.

IT LOOKS LIKE THIS, AND IT'S THE WILSON RIALS AWARD FOR EXEMPLARY LEADERSHIP IN ADVANCING DIVERSITY, EQUITY, JUSTICE, AND EMPOWERMENT.

VERY WELL-DESERVED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOUR EFFORTS TO SUPPORT THE LIVED BLACK EXPERIENCE PROJECT, THE ADOPTION OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND RELATED SO WAY TO GO, COUNCIL, YOU WERE WELL REPRESENTED AT THAT EVENT AND THE RECIPIENT OF THIS NICE AWARD, AND I'LL MAKE SURE YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE THIS.

ONTO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I NOTED A FEW RETIREMENTS.

I WILL ALSO MENTIONED THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TRAINING AND SHIP CRUISE COMPLETING THE ANNUAL TRAINING, WHO'S TRAINING? SOME PHOTOS IN THE REPORT FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT.

A LOT OF COMMUNITY EDUCATIONAL EVENTS.

SO MANY, I'M NOT GOING TO NAME THEM, BUT THEY ARE IN THEIR REPORT.

THANK YOU TO OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY IN ALL OF THESE OUTREACH PROGRAMS. I THINK I'LL MOVE ON TO HUMAN RESOURCES AND RISK MANAGEMENT.

NOTING, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY, I THINK A TREND IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

WE ARE CURRENTLY RECRUITING FOR 82 VACANCIES IN THIS CITY ORGANIZATION.

THAT NUMBER WAS A BIT HIGHER LAST TIME I MADE REFERENCE TO IT.

HOPEFULLY IT IS A TRAJECTORY THAT WILL CONTINUE.

WE DO HAVE SOME PROFESSIONAL SERVICES NOW HELPING US WITH OUR RECRUITMENT.

STAY TUNED AS THINGS SEEM TO BE IN PLAY.

MOVING ON TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THERE'S BEEN SOME, OF COURSE, INCREASED PRESENCE WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS.

THANK YOU TO THE OFFICERS WHO ARE HELPING OUT AS MUCH AS YOU'RE ABLE TO WITH ON-SITE PRESENCE IN THE SCHOOLS.

MUCH APPRECIATED.

OFFICER JOHN CASTANEDA RECEIVED OFFICER OF THE YEAR FROM THE MOTHERS AGAINST DRUNK DRIVING FOR HIS EFFORTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, OFFICER, FOR YOUR DUTIES.

ALSO, WE ATTENDED SOME CEREMONY AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHERE THERE WERE A FEW ACKNOWLEDGMENTS MADE AND SOME BADGING CEREMONIES WHICH ARE ALWAYS WONDERFUL TO ATTEND.

CONGRATULATIONS TO DEPUTY CHIEF SCOTT MANSFIELD ON GRADUATING FROM THE FBI NATIONAL ACADEMY.

WE SPOKE TO THAT LAST TIME.

THERE'S A NICE PICTURE OF HIM IN THE REPORT AT HIS GRADUATION CEREMONY.

LAURIE SPENCER RECEIVED THE 2021 VALERIE HERNANDEZ MEMORIAL AWARD FOR CIVILIAN OF THE YEAR.

CONGRATULATIONS LAURIE.

OFFICER MATT SCHMIDT WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE 2021 OFFICER, POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICER OF THE YEAR FOR HIS MANY CONTRIBUTIONS, CONGRATULATIONS TO OFFICER SCHMIDT AND DETECTIVE JARED WITASICK, WHO ALSO SERVES ON OUR BUDGET TEAM.

HE WAS RECOGNIZED BY MICHAEL OLIVER, PRESIDENT OF THE FLAGSTAFF LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION FOR HIS EFFORTS.

CONGRATULATIONS, DETECTIVE.

I MAY HAVE MISSED A FEW AWARDS, BUT YOU HAVE THOSE PICTURES AND AWARDS LISTED IN YOUR REPORT.

SOME NICE UPDATES FROM OUR PROS DEPARTMENT WHICH HAS PARTNERED WITH SUSTAINABILITY AND OTHERS TOWARD THE COMPOSTING PROGRAM.

GREAT, GREAT PROJECT

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS.

SOME INVASIVE WEED ERADICATION PROGRAMS AND ONTO PUBLIC WORKS AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CJ TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE WITH IT.

THE STREET STRIPING CREWS, IN THE REPORT IT SAYS STREETS STRIPPING CREWS THAT IS DEFINITELY A TYPO.

THE STRIPING CREWS ARE OUT MAKING IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF THE GOOD WORK AND IT'S BEGINNING TO BE EVIDENCED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT WORK AND I THINK I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT AND CJ CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE WITH IT?

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CJ PERRY IT DIRECTOR JUST GOING TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF QUICK HIGHLIGHTS FROM OUR MONTHLY REPORT.

SO PUT THIS ON THE SCREEN ALSO SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF IT.

AS IT SUPPORTS INTERNAL SERVICES A LOT OF OUR MONTHLY REPORT IS DESIGNED WITH THAT IN MIND.

WITH THAT ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE HAVE IS A TECH TIP BY BRENDAN ROSS.

THIS IS JUST A LITTLE TIP THAT WE LIKE TO GIVE TO EMPLOYEES ON HOW TO DO THEIR JOB A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENTLY, LITTLE BETTER.

SO THIS IS ABOUT HOW TO TURN EMAILS INTO REMINDERS SO THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW UP ON THINGS THAT YOU MAY NOT BE PREPARED TO ACT ON IMMEDIATELY BUT YOU CAN SET YOURSELF UP FOR A REMINDER A LITTLE BIT IN THE FUTURE.

SO HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN IMPLEMENT IN YOUR DAY-TO-DAY.

ALSO WANTED TO SPOTLIGHT PAUL SANTANA AS OUR STAFF SPOTLIGHT FOR THE MONTH.

HE'S OUR DEPUTY IT DIRECTOR AND PAUL REALLY JUST HELPS KEEP THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF IT RUNNING.

WITHOUT PAUL I THINK WE WOULD ALL BE IN A WORLD OF HURT.

YOU ALL KNOW PAUL AND YOU ALL SEEN HIM AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR HIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE TEAM.

ANOTHER THING REAL QUICK I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, I'M JUST GOING TO JUMP DOWN TO OUR HELP DESK, REALLY PROUD OF THIS TEAM.

WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE OF TICKETS ABOUT 73 PERCENT, YET WE STILL MAINTAIN A CUSTOMER SATISFACTION RATING OF 100 PERCENT AWESOME SATISFACTION RATING FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS.

SO THEY CONTINUE TO DO AMAZING WORK DESPITE THE INCREASED WORKLOAD.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND OTHER THINGS IN THIS THAT I'LL LET YOU GUYS LOOK AT AT YOUR LEISURE. I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.

>> THANK YOU CJ [NOISE]

>> THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT? OTHERWISE WE CAN CELEBRATE SOME WORK ANNIVERSARIES HERE.

>> I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING ONLINE SO YEAH LET'S PROCEED ACCORDINGLY.

[NOISE]

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, SHANNON ANDERSON SENIOR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY OR JUNE WORK ANNIVERSARIES AND THERE'S QUITE A FEW THIS MONTH AND NEXT MONTH.

SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED TO SHARE THESE WITH YOU.

FOR OUR FIVE-YEAR ANNIVERSARIES WE'VE GOT TIMOTHY IN OUR WATER SURFACES.

HE'S ONE OF OUR MULTI-SKILLED WORKERS.

WE ALSO HAVE ANGELINA TSO ONE OF OUR RECREATION LEADER, ONE'S STILL WORKING IN PROSE, VICTORIA ST CLAIR SHE'S BUILDING PLANS EXAMINER PART OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ADAM ONE OF OUR IT ADMINISTRATORS PART OF CJ'S TEAM.

JEREMIAH ADAMS IS ONE OF OUR FACILITY MAINTENANCE EMPLOYEES IN PUBLIC WORKS, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN HIM AROUND CITY HALL.

HE'S PROBABLY YOUR GO-TO GUY, RIGHT [LAUGHTER]? I SEE LOTS OF HEADS NODDING, PATRICK ST. CLAIR ONE OF OUR PLANNING DEVELOPMENT MANAGERS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND DAWN WHO YOU MAY HAVE SPOKEN TO, SHE'S OUR PAYROLL COORDINATOR UP IN MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

MOVING ON TO 15-YEAR ANNIVERSARIES AMANDA TADDER, IS A LIBRARY SPECIALIST AND THEN TO OUR 25 YEARS PLUS, FIRST IS EARL GUTIERREZ.

HE'S BEEN WITH OUR ORGANIZATION FOR 26 YEARS NOW.

YOU'LL SEE A THEME HERE AS WE TALK ABOUT ARE FEW EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE THIS MONTH THAT 25 YEARS PLUS.

HIS DEDICATION TO THE DEPARTMENT AND CITIZENS SHOWS HIS GREAT ATTITUDE EVERY DAY.

HIS VALUES SHINE THROUGH IN HIS COMMITMENT TO PHYSICAL FITNESS, HIS LOVE FOR HIS FAMILY AND HIS PASSION FOR HUNTING AND FISHING WHICH PROVIDES FOOD FOR HIS FAMILY.

EVERY YEAR THE DEPARTMENT HOLDS AND ADOPT THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS TOY DRIVE AND EARL IS A BIG PART OF THAT SUCCESS.

HE FINDS FAMILIES IN NEEDS AND HE HELPS WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE CHRISTMAS GIFTS.

HE'S A TRUE BLESSING TO DEPARTMENT AND OUR CITY OF FLAGSTAFF TEAM.

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HE'S BEEN WITH US FOR 27 YEARS THIS MONTH.

HE'S A CAPTAIN AND HE'S ALSO A MEMBER OF THE SPECIAL OPERATIONS TEAM.

HE HAS SERVED AS THE LEAD INSTRUCTOR FOR THE ENGINEERED DRIVING TRAINING AND ALSO SAT ON THE PANEL FOR THE COMPENSATION STUDY, WHICH YOU HEARD A LOT ABOUT DURING OUR APRIL BUDGET RETREAT.

AS A RESULT OF HIS HARD WORK AND INVOLVEMENT THREE OF HIS PEERS WERE NOMINATED AND ALSO WON THE CITY MANAGER ASPEN AWARD FOR THE COMMUNICATION THEY DID THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS IN 2021.

WHEN HE'S AWAY FROM THE DEPARTMENT HE ALSO ENJOYS HUNTING AND HAS BEEN A HUNTING GUIDE FOR MANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE LEARNING TO HUNT SUCCESSFULLY.

ONE OF THE QUOTES THE TEAM PROVIDED FOR US AS HE'S ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THOUGHTFUL LEADERS.

HIS ENGAGEMENT AND LEADERSHIP HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THE FLAGSTAFF FIRE DEPARTMENT TEAM SUCCESS.

SO CONGRATS TO TODD.

RAY I KNOW HE WAS ON WITH US EARLIER BUT THEY GOT CALLED OUT TO AN EMERGENCY SO HE HAD TO STEP OFF.

YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THAT IN THE CHAT.

BUT MR. GONZO IS CELEBRATING 36 YEARS.

CONGRATULATIONS TO RAY THIS IS AMAZING.

HE AND SOME OF HIS PEERS HERE THIS WEEK HAVE BEEN RETIRING AND WE'VE BEEN CELEBRATING THAT AS WELL.

RAY'S CURRENTLY A CAPTAIN, A HAZMAT TECHNICIAN AND A TECHNICAL RESCUE TECHNICIAN AND HE WORKS AT OUR STATION 4.

HE HAS SERVED AS OUR PHOTOGRAPHER CAPTURING SPECIAL MOMENTS LIKE NEW RECRUIT GRADUATIONS, PROMOTIONS AND RETIREMENT CEREMONIES.

HE SPENDS TIME WITH HIS WIFE, KIDS AND GRANDKIDS AS YOU CAN USUALLY FIND HIM AT THE LAKE THIS TIME OF YEAR.

SO HE'LL BE RETIRING AGAIN THE END OF THIS MONTH AND WE'RE GOING TO DEFINITELY MISS RAY AS WELL AS MANY AS HIS PEERS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.

THANKS FOR GIVING US A MOMENT TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF OUR GREAT MEMBERS OF TEAM FLAGSTAFF AND WE'LL BE BACK WITH YOU JULY 5TH TO CELEBRATE JULY.

ACTUALLY GO ON BREAK.

>> THANK YOU, SHANNON AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF THOSE WHO'VE BEEN HIGHLIGHTED TODAY.

I MEAN, 36 YEARS THAT IS JUST AMAZING LEVEL OF DEDICATION WE HAVE IN SO MANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT WITH THAT WE'RE READY TO MOVE ALONG WITH THE AGENDA TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8,

[8. Care Unit Update Provide an update to City Council on the operations of the care unit.]

[NOISE] COOL SHIRT.

>> THANK YOU [LAUGHTER].

>> PRESENT THERE IT IS.

>> WELL, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING US BE HERE.

MY NAME IS MIKE FELT, A CAPTAIN FOR FLIGHT STAFF, FIRE DEPARTMENT WHO'S OVERSEEING THE STARTUP OF THE CARES UNIT.

>> I'M BRIAN GUEST DIRECTOR OF NORTHERN ARIZONA CRISIS SERVICES FOR TERROS HEALTH AND STILL OVERSEEING THE MENTAL HEALTH PART OF THE CARE UNIT.

>> WE'RE HERE TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON THE SUCCESS OF OUR UNIT THIS FAR.

WE GO THROUGH THE POWERPOINT HERE.

JUST AS A UNIT OVERVIEW, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, IT'S STAFFED WITH A TEAM THAT CONSISTS OF BOTH THE TERRORIST SOCIAL WORKER AND A FLIGHT STAFF, OUR DEPARTMENT, EMT, WHO USE BOTH OF THEIR SKILL SETS TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF CARE TO ASSIST WITH OUR COMMUNITY STABILIZATION.

WE DO THIS WITH THE CARE UNIT SO FAR IN MANY WAYS.

WE PROVIDE CARE TO OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION.

WE PROVIDE SERVICE TO SUICIDAL AND MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE.

WE'VE CREATED AN OMEGA CALL DISPATCH, WHICH HITS THE LOWER ACUITY CALLS.

WHICH THEN MAKES ARE ALL RISKS UNITS MORE AVAILABLE FOR THE HIGHER ACUITY CALLS.

WE RUN OFF OF A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PARAMETERS AND STATISTICAL PARAMETERS THAT WE REALLY HAVE SEEN WORKING.

ONE OF THEM HERE ON THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS IF WE CAN PROVIDE A PERSON'S NEED, IT'LL DECREASE IN 911 CALL FOR UP TO 72 HOURS.

WE'VE REALLY BEEN SEEING THAT WITH THE UNIT THIS FAR.

A SIMPLE NEAT AS WE'RE UNSEEN AND WE CAN ASK SOMEBODY, "HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR YOU, WHAT DO YOU NEED?" SOMEONE JUST SAY IT'S SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A SHOWER AND WE CAN TAKE THEM TO THE SHELTER FOR A SHOWER.

IT STABILIZES THAT PERSON AND GETS THEM OUT OF THE 911 SYSTEM UP FOR 72 HOURS.

SO FAR WE'VE BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE MARCH 28TH.

THUS FAR, WE'VE HAD ABOUT 346 DISPATCHES THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE OUR PUBLIC CONTACTS.

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ABOUT 82 PERCENT OF OUR CALLS ARE FOR INTOXICANTS OR INTOXICATED INDIVIDUALS.

ABOUT THREE PERCENT WE'VE DONE FOR SUICIDES.

FIVE PERCENT, WE'VE JUST CONNECTED TO OTHER RESOURCES.

EIGHT PERCENT HAS BEEN UPGRADES TO MEDICAL, TWO PERCENT HAS BEEN ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH CALLS.

WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IS WE'VE SEEN AS THE UNIT IS WORKING, ABOUT 84 PERCENT OF OUR CALLS HAVE BEEN FIRST CONTACT BASE, WHICH MEANS WE'RE DOING OUR JOBS AS WE SHOULD.

AS WE'RE APPROACHING INDIVIDUALS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION TO FULFILL A NEED TO HELP THEM OUT IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN.

WITH THIS, WE CAN SEE HERE WITH THIS GRAPH THAT 84 PERCENT OF OUR CLIENTS ARE A FIRST CONTACT BASIS, WHICH MEANS WE'RE DOING OUR JOB.

SEEING THE SAME PERSON WITHIN THE LAST 24 HOURS, IT'S BEEN ONLY FIVE PERCENT, WITHIN THE LAST WEEK HAS BEEN ONLY SIX PERCENT.

WITHIN THE LAST MONTH IS ONLY FIVE PERCENT.

WE'VE BEEN DOING VERY, VERY WELL.

THE OUTCOMES ONCE WE'VE ACTUALLY RAN ON THE INDIVIDUALS.

ABOUT 38 PERCENT OF THEM, WE'VE LEFT THEM IN THE SAME LOCATION.

THAT JUST SHOWS THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT RESOURCES THAT WE NEED ON OUR VAN.

WE CAN STABILIZE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS A WAY BETTER POSITIVE OUTCOME.

WE JUST COME UP WITH A SOLUTION ON SEEING THAT WE CAN FULFILL A NEED.

ABOUT 16 PERCENT WE HAVE GIVEN RIDES OR A WARM HAND-OFF TO THE SHELTER.

ABOUT ONE PERCENT WE'VE UPGRADED TO A FULL TERRORISTS MOBILE TEAM WE'RE VERY PROUD OF ARE ONLY 1 PERCENT OF ESCALATION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

A BIG PART OF THE UNIT WAS TO TAKE THE STRAIN OFF OF THE POLICE OFFICERS AND WE'RE PROVING IT HERE.

FIVE PERCENT WE'VE HAD VOLUNTARY PSYCHIATRIC, HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE, TWO PERCENT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES DROP-OFFS.

ABOUT 20 PERCENT WE'VE HAD CANCELED CALLS, AND ABOUT 17 PERCENT WE'VE ESCALATED TO A MEDICAL CALL.

IT'S A PRETTY LOW NUMBER AND THAT MEANS THAT OUR OMEGA DISPATCH IS WORKING THROUGH DISPATCH.

SOME POINTS TO TAKE HOME.

WE AVERAGE AROUND 4-8 OMEGA CALLS A DAY WITH MULTIPLE PUBLIC CONTACTS, USUALLY AROUND 10-20.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE A LARGE STRAIN OFF THE ALL-RISK UNITS WITH ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF TREATMENT WITH THE GOALS OF FULFILLING A CLIENT'S NEEDS TO LESSEN THE CHANCE OF A 911 CALL.

IT CAN BE AS SIMPLE AS JUST REPOSITIONING SOMEBODY SO THAT THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THEY'RE HAVING AN EMERGENCY WHERE 911 NEEDS TO BE CALLED.

AGAIN, THE UPGRADED PD RESPONSE IS ONLY ONE PERCENT.

WITH THIS, WITH SOME OF OUR MISSIONS, WE JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME OF THE CALLS THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED SO FAR.

ON THE REDUCING EXPOSURE, DEATH, SO ON DURING OUR PUBLIC OUTREACHES AS WE WERE DRIVING AROUND TOWN, THE CARE UNIT CAME ACROSS A MAN THAT WAS POSITIONED VERY STRANGELY BETWEEN A WALL AND ELECTRICAL BOX.

THEY MADE CONTACT WITH HIM AND FOUND THAT HE WAS HAVING A REAL EMERGENCY.

HE WAS ALTERED UNCONSCIOUS, HAD SIGNS OF RESPIRATORY DISTRESS.

WE WERE ABLE TO UPGRADE.

THE EMT STEPPED IN, DID HIS JOB VERY, VERY, VERY WELL.

THEY UPGRADED THE RESPONSE, WHICH WE CALL IT DELTA RESPONSE.

IT BROUGHT A FIRE TRUCK AND AN AMBULANCE LIGHTS AND SIRENS, AND THEY GOT HIM THE LEVEL OF CARE THAT HE NEEDED.

THE PARAMEDICS OUT WERE ON SCENE, STATED IF THE CARE UNIT WOULD NOT HAVE FOUND HIM AS PROMPTLY, HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE PERISHED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE THE VEHICLE VERSUS TRAIN.

WE WERE ABLE TO ASSIST THE FLIGHT STAFF, POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS WITH THE SUICIDAL SUBJECT WHO WAS THREATENING BY MEANS OF TRAIN.

THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE MENTAL HEALTH CARE FOR THE SUBJECT AND ALSO APPROPRIATE RESOURCES FOR HIS MENTAL HEALTH FREEING UP THE OFFICERS QUICKLY.

WE ALSO EXPERIENCED THIS WITH AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WE HAD AT DANNY'S WHERE THE CARE UNIT WAS WITH THIS PERSON AND IT TOOK TWO AND A HALF HOURS TO FULFILL HER NEEDS.

WE GOT HER THE CARE THAT SHE NEEDED AND IT ALSO FREED UP THE OFFICERS AS WELL FOR THE TWO-AND-A-HALF-HOUR PERIOD THERE.

WE'VE BEEN REDUCING THE STREAM ON EMS. ONE OF THOSE CALLS WE CAN DO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THERE WAS A FEMALE IN TOWN.

SHE WAS ON CRUTCHES AND SHE WAS MOVING VERY, VERY SLOWLY, LIKE ONE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WITHIN AN HOUR.

THAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE A 911 CALL.

SOMEONE WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED FOR HER.

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THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT HER NEED WAS.

HER NEED WAS TO GO TO A STORAGE FACILITY BECAUSE HER BACKPACK WAS STOLEN AND THE KEYS FOR HER STORAGE UNIT WAS IN THERE AND SHE WAS AFRAID SHE WAS GOING TO LOSE EVERYTHING.

THE CARE UNIT SIMPLY GAVE HER A RIDE TO THE STORAGE, ASSISTED HER WITH HER LOCK, AND THEN BROUGHT HER BACK AND SHE WAS GOOD TO GO FOR THE DAY.

WE'VE BEEN REALLY WORKING WITH COLLABORATING WITH THE FLAGSTAFF SHELTER SERVICES, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REALLY INCREASE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

WE'VE CREATED WHAT WE CALL BASICALLY A WARM HANDOFF WITH THEM WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO CALL.

WE TELL THEM WHO WERE COMING WITH WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

THEY'VE BEEN WORKING VERY WELL TO FULFILL THOSE NEEDS.

IT CAN BE AS SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A SHOWER, SLEEPING SITUATIONS, CLOTHING, AND THEN THE LONG-TERM HOUSING SOLUTIONS.

THE FLAGSTAFF SHELTER SERVICES JUST PURCHASED THE, IT'S CALLED THE CROWN NOW.

THEY JUST PURCHASED THE CROWN.

WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY CALL THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE HAVE A PERSON WHO WE THINK FITS THE PROFILE TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO THEIR PROGRAM AND THE LONG-TERM HOUSING WHICH THEY INCLUDE WRAP-UP SOLUTIONS THERE.

IT'S THAT LONG-TERM CARE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE GUIDANCE CENTER.

WE'VE BEEN CREATING CHECK SHEETS TO GO INTO THE GUIDANCE CENTER TO REDUCE 911 CALLS AFTER THEY'D BEEN WORKING WITH THE FLIGHT STAFF SHELTER SERVICES TO COME EVERY TUESDAY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THERE THAT WOULD WANT TO GET INTO A DETOX PROGRAM? WE'VE BEEN HANDING OUT BUS PASSES.

THE BUS PASSES HAVE REALLY REDUCED OUR EMS CALLS.

IF OUR COMMUNITY CAN TRAVEL AROUND THROUGH THE CITY, IT REALLY DOES REDUCE THE STRAIN ON OUR EMS SYSTEM.

THE FLAGSTAFF FAMILY FOOD BANK HAS BEEN PROVIDING SANDWICHES AND DRINKS.

THE SALVATION ARMY FOR CLOTHING.

WE HAD AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE KEPT SEEING MULTIPLE TIMES ON THE EMS SIDE, SHE HAD BEEN DRINKING HEAVILY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF A FAMILY DEATH, BUT WAS NOT INEBRIATED ENOUGH THAT SHE NEEDED EMS CARE, BUT SHE COMPLAINED A FOOT PAIN.

IT WAS SIX OR SEVEN TIMES THAT SHE WAS UP AT THE HOSPITAL.

WE NOTICED THAT SHE WAS WEARING SLIPPERS.

WHILE WE ARE ON SCENE, WE'RE ABLE TO GO TO THE SALVATION ARMY.

WE GOT HER A GREAT PAIR OF SHOES.

SHE WENT UP TO THE HOSPITAL ONE TIME, CAME OUT WITH THE NEW SHOES AND WE SAW HER ONE MORE TIME IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN SHE WAS ABLE TO GET BACK IN LINE AGAIN.

WE ALSO CREATED A GREAT PAMPHLET THAT PROVIDES ALL OF THE CITY RESOURCES.

THIS POWERPOINT IS ABOUT A WEEK OLD, BUT WE'VE BEEN REALLY WORKING ON ARE REDUCING OF OFFICER INVOLVEMENT DURING SUICIDAL CALLS.

WE'VE NAILED THAT DOWN WITH A BETTER DISPATCH SYSTEM.

WE ALSO HAD AN OUTREACH WITH THE FLIGHT STAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF OUR SERVICES AND HOW TO USE US IN A PRETTY GOOD TRAINING WITH THEM.

IT'S INCREASED OUR CALLS GREATLY.

INSTEAD OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BEING THE TAXI SERVICE, WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE CALLS AWAY FROM PD AND FREE THEM UP A LOT FASTER IN THAT SIDE TO.

WE'VE CONTINUING COLLABORATION WITH OTHER CITY IDENTITIES.

WE JUST MADE REALLY GOOD FRIENDS WITH A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION CALLED HOPE LIVES.

THEY PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO FELONS WITHIN THE CITY.

WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO USE THEIR RESOURCES WITH A CLIENT OF OURS.

THEY ARE ABLE TO GIVE THEM HOUSING.

THEY STARTED THEM WITH A JOB, AND IT'S BEEN PRETTY GREAT SO FAR.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO CONTINUE TO TRACK SITUATIONAL BASE DATA TO PROVIDE SOLUTIONS TO ALL THE UNIQUE SITUATIONS THAT WE COME ALONG.

SO FAR, WE'VE SEEN THAT IT'S BEEN A VERY POSITIVE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY AND IS SHOWN ITS SUCCESS THROUGH VISIBLE COMMUNITY STABILIZATION.

WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE STATISTICS AND YOU DIVIDE THAT OUT, IT ONLY SHOWS THAT WE RUN ABOUT FOUR CALLS A DAY.

IT'S VERY HARD TO SHOW STATISTICALLY HOW IT'S WORKING.

BUT REALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IS OUR COMMUNITY IS DISRUPTED FOR AT LEAST TWO DAYS.

WE RUN A BUNCH OF OMEGA CALLS.

WE HAVE TEN TO 20 PUBLIC CONTACTS THROUGHOUT THE DAY, AND WE CAN REALLY FEEL THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS UNSTABLE.

THEN AFTER THOSE TWO DAYS AFTER DOING OUR JOBS, THE CITY GOES SILENT FOR 3-5.

WE DON'T FIND ANYBODY TO MAKE PUBLIC CONTACTS WITH OMEGA CALLS DROP REALLY LOW.

THAT'S HOW WE'RE REALLY JUDGING OUR SUCCESS

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DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? THIS IS AWESOME. LET ME JUST SAY, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENTIRE TEAM IN MAKING THIS SUCH A SUCCESS SO QUICKLY, THIS WAS REALLY DIFFICULT FOR YOU ALL TO GET OFF THE GROUND SO QUICKLY.

I'M JUST REALLY IMPRESSED ALSO WITH OUR DISPATCH THAT WE'RE ABLE TO FILTER THESE TYPES OF CALLS APPROPRIATELY BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE BEEN IN THOSE MEETINGS GIVING EXAMPLES OF WHERE'S THE LINE GO ON THIS VERY GRAY AREA? BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS IS WORKING AND IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MCCARTHY? YES, I AGREE. IT'S A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM. THANKS FOR THE GOOD WORK.

MY QUESTION IS, IF WE SEE SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS HELP, WHERE DID WE CALL? DO WE DO 911? YES, SIR. SO 911 IS STILL THE BEST OPTION.

AS IT GOES THROUGH IT'LL GO THROUGH BASICALLY A ROLODEX CARD.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND THEY'RE GOING TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE AND SEND THE BEST RESOURCE.

THE CARE UNIT IS INCLUDED IN THAT IT WOULD JUST FALL ALONG THAT LOWER ACUITY CALL TO WHERE WE CAN COME OUT AND PROVIDE SERVICE TO THEM.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SYSTEM BECAUSE IF THERE WERE SOMETHING LIKE ALTERNATE PHONE NUMBER, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO USE, THEY WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, SO THAT'S GOOD PLANNING. THANK YOU.

YES.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MCCARTHY, COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU, GUYS SO MUCH.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

I THINK I'VE STATED IN THE PAST HOW IMPORTANT MENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IS TO ME PERSONALLY, TO SEE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU'RE MAKING IN THAT AREA IS ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE INFORMATIONAL BROCHURE OR PAMPHLET THAT YOU SAID YOU HAD CREATED WITH ALL OF THE COMMUNITY RESOURCES, HOW IS THAT ACCESS TO OR WHERE IS THAT ACCESSIBLE FOR HIM? ACTUALLY, IT WAS MADE BY THE CITY.

THEY HAD A COMMUNITY RESOURCE PACKET THAT CAME OUT ON AN EMAIL AND IT WAS AN EASY ONE FOR US TO GRAB.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE COPIES OF IT WITHIN THE UNIT ITSELF.

WHEN WE CAN PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, THEN WE'LL HAND THE PAMPHLET OUT AS WE'RE ON SCENE WITH INDIVIDUAL.

COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE] HASSAN.

THANK YOU. WHILE YOU GUYS, MY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE ENTIRE TERRORISTS HEALTH TEAM LIKES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CITY LEADERSHIP.

I SEE SOME AWARDS COMING THE WAY OF MANY FOLKS.

I WANT TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN FIRST RESPONDER.

I WORKED WITH LIFELINE AMBULANCE FOR A LONG TIME AS AN EMT AND DID A LOT OF BLS AND ALS CALLS.

MY FATHER'S A FIREFIGHTER, MY BROTHER'S A FIREFIGHTER, I KNOW HOW STRESSED OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE.

DAY-IN, DAY-OUT DEALING WITH CALLS THAT THEY DON'T FEEL ARE UNDER THEIR PURVIEW.

THEY'RE NOT PREPARED TO INVEST THE TIME OR THE RIGHT SOLUTIONS INTO DEALING WITH THESE MATTERS.

FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, LAUNDRY LIST OF SUCCESSES IN THE SHORT TIME THAT YOU'VE BEEN OPERATIONAL.

FIRST RESPONDERS AND EMERGENCY CARE PROFESSIONALS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, ALL OVER THE NATION SHOULD BE TAKING NOTE OF THE AMAZING DIFFERENCE THAT YOU GUYS ARE MAKING.

I KNOW THAT I TRUMP IT THIS PROGRAM.

I'M VERY PROUD OF IT. I'M VERY PROUD OF YOU GUYS.

I TALK IT UP EVERYWHERE I GO INTO EVERYONE I CAN, ESPECIALLY FIRST RESPONDERS AND FOLKS IN THE EMS INDUSTRY.

I HOPE EVERYONE ELSE IS TALKING THIS UP TOO.

THE WORK NEEDS TO GET OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, AS VIGOROUSLY AS POSSIBLE AND THIS APPROACH, THIS PROGRAM NEEDS TO GROW.

IT NEEDS TO GET FUNDING FROM ALL LEVELS, AND IT JUST NEEDS TO BECOME SOMETHING THAT'S A NATURAL PART OF OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE ECOSYSTEM NATIONWIDE.

YOU GUYS ARE HERE ON THE GROUND LEVEL.

TAKE GOOD NOTES.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WONDER HOW THIS ALL GOT STARTED, HOW IT WORKED TO BEGIN WITH, LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION.

WHAT YOU JUST SHARED WITH US IS SO UNBELIEVABLY EXCITING AND YOU'RE BEING VERY UNDERSTATED ABOUT IT.

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THIS IS REALLY EXCITING STUFF.

CONGRATULATIONS.

YOU SHOULD FEEL PROUD.

THANK YOU FOR BEING OUT THERE AND CONTINUE OUT THERE DOING ALL THIS GOOD WORK AND BE SAFE.

THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE CLIENTELE THAT YOU HAVE SERVICED UP TO THIS POINT FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AND THE CARE THAT YOU BRING TO YOUR TASK. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING SUCH A BIG DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU TO OUR PARTNERS, TO PREVIOUS COUNCILS, THE CURRENT COUNCIL LEADERSHIP.

THIS IS AN AMAZING UPDATE.

I AM WONDERING.

WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE SUCCESS AND OF COURSE, I WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT.

BUT WHAT ARE SOME CHALLENGES THAT YOU MIGHT SEE COMING DOWN THE PIPE AS WE CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM?

>> THANK YOU. YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED I'VE LET CAPTAIN PHELPS DO MOST OF THE TALKING TODAY.

THAT'S BECAUSE THIS COULD BE HIS LAST TIME PRESENTING ABOUT THE CARE UNIT AT THE CITY COUNCIL.

HE'S BEEN IN A TEMPORARY POSITION AS THE LEAD OF THIS UNIT ON THE FIRESIDE.

THERE ISN'T ACTUALLY A PERMANENT POSITION FOR THAT.

SO HE'LL BE TRANSITIONING BACK OUT INTO THE FIELD.

THERE WON'T BE A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT LEADER OF THE CARE UNIT ON THE FLAGSTAFF FIRESIDE.

ONE THING THAT I THINK IS WORTH CONSIDERING IS THERE BEING A PERMANENT POSITION ON THE FIRESIDE AS A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT LEADER, COORDINATOR OF THE CARE UNIT.

FOR TERROS, I THINK DO A GOOD JOB OF OVERSEEING THE UNIT AND THE MENTAL HEALTH SIDE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE CREDENTIALS TO HAVE OVERSIGHT FOR THE EMTS, AND SO THEY'LL STILL GET OVERSIGHT THROUGH THE VARIOUS CAPTAINS AND BATTALION CHIEFS AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT TO HAVE A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN REALLY INVALUABLE AS WE'VE BEEN BUILDING AND REFINING THE PROGRAM.

>> THANK YOU AND I'M SAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE LEAVING THE PROGRAM.

I AGAIN, HAVE HEARD NOTHING BUT WONDERFUL THINGS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE WITH THAT.

>> YES, THANK YOU. I GO BACK ON THE FIRE ENGINE TOMORROW.

IT'D BE MY FIRST TIME BACK AS WELL.

>> WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION WHERE IN THESE BUDGET SESSIONS, WE'VE DISCUSSED EXPANDING THE PROGRAM, GETTING MORE FUNDING ALLOCATION TOWARDS IT.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS OF, HEY, AT A PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST, HEY, MAYBE WE SHOULD EXTEND HOURS.

I KNOW IT'S EARLY ON, BUT WE ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT DECIDING ON NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

IN TERMS OF AN EXPANSION, WHERE DO YOU SEE OUR NEEDS ASIDE FROM HAVING A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT ON FIRE, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE US BE EXPANDING THIS I.E THE HOURS OR ANOTHER UNIT DURING THOSE TIMES SO THAT WE SEE THE PEAK COUPLE OF DAYS A WEEK? JUST WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS.

>> YEAH, I THINK IT'S STILL EARLY ON AND I THINK AS WE GET MORE DATA AND ARE ABLE TO COMPARE OUR DATA WITH 9/11 DISPATCHED DATA WILL GET A CLEARER PICTURE.

BUT I THINK JUST ANECDOTALLY, THERE'S DEFINITELY A NEED POTENTIALLY FOR THE UNIT TO OPERATE LATER IN THE DAY.

AS OF NOW ARE 1-1-10 HOUR UNIT WORKS 09:00 AM TO 07:00 PM.

I THINK WE SEE THAT THERE IS POTENTIAL NEED FOR HOURS BEYOND 07:00 PM.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE DEFINITELY ONE PLACE TO START.

THEN THE OTHER THING THAT AS CAPTAIN PHELPS PRESENTED WITH SOME OF HIS NUMBERS AND THIS IDEA THAT WE CAN STABILIZE THE COMMUNITY FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME JUST WITH OUR BRIEF INTERACTIONS.

THERE ARE TIMES WHEN A PERSON MIGHT NEED MORE FOLLOW UP AND WITH THE WAY WE'RE STAFFED AS A SINGLE FIRST RESPONDER TYPE UNIT, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO KEEP TRACK OF AND FOLLOW UP WITH SOME OF THE HIGHER NEEDS PEOPLE THAT WE SEE.

A POSITION THAT COULD HAVE THAT ROLE IS ALSO, I THINK, SOMETHING THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT FOR THE FUTURE.

>> EXCELLENT, I APPRECIATE THE INPUT ON THAT.

WITH THAT, I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING ELSE ONLINE.

THANK YOU AGAIN, THIS IS MUSIC TO OUR EARS.

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>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

>> WITH THAT, WE ARE AT 4:30.

KEEP PRESSING ON TO AGENDA ITEM 9,

[9. Museum Flooding and Spruce Wash updates Information only.]

[LAUGHTER] JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, AFTER THIS, WE WILL TAKE A BIT OF A BREAK BEFORE MOVING ON TO THE PIPELINE FIRE FLOODING ISSUE.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.

I APPRECIATE THE TIME AGAIN TO COME TO YOU AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH MUSEUM.

WITH ALL THE THINGS MOVING IN THIS DAY AND AGE, MUSEUM IS STILL A TOP PRIORITY FOR US AND WE'RE STILL PUSHING FORWARD ON ALL THE MITIGATION EFFORTS TO ENSURE THAT AS MANY PEOPLE OR AS PROTECTED AS POSSIBLE, MOVING INTO THIS MONSOON SEASON WHICH HAS ALREADY STARTED AND WE'LL HIT THAT HERE IN JUST A MOMENT.

AS WE GO THROUGH TODAY'S AGENDA, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW ITEMS ON HERE.

YOU ALL SEE THAT WE HAVE SOME EDUCATIONAL PIECES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN HERE TODAY.

WE HAVE OUR MONSOON FORECAST FROM BRIAN KAMOWSKI WITH THE WEATHER SERVICE.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR NORMAL UPDATES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT WE'VE PREVIOUSLY GIVEN AND JUST TO TELL YOU WHERE WE ARE, HOW CLOSE WE ARE ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AS WE MOVE INTO OUR MONSOON SEASON.

WE'RE A LITTLE BIT EARLY, SO I'M HOPING BRIAN IS ON WITH US.

IF NOT, I'LL HAVE TO SHOOT THEM A QUICK TEXT, BUT HE'LL GIVE US OUR MONSOON UPDATE IF HE JOINS US HERE.

MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT. WE'LL GET CAUGHT UP HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

BUT WITH THAT SAID, WE CAN GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE AND I'LL HIT ON THE AGENDA ITEM REAL QUICK.

MOST IMPORTANTLY THAT YOU'LL SEE ON HERE IS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OVERVIEW.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TODAY IS TO REALLY, BEFORE YOU ALL GO INTO YOUR SPRING OR SUMMER SESSIONS HERE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE YOU A GOOD UPDATE OF EXPECTATIONS THAT WE HAVE.

THE QUESTIONS THAT WE MIGHT BE COMING TO YOU WITH THIS SUMMER IF WE WERE TO SEE AN EVENT, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE INTEGRATION IS OF COUNCIL OR WE CALL THE POLICY LEVEL DECISION-MAKERS INTO THE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM AND WHAT THAT INTEGRATION LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY KEY PIECE.

OUR FIRE CHIEF IS GOING TO LEAD THAT EFFORT.

HE'S TRULY AN EXPERT IN THIS WORLD AND UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS AND HOW THAT INTEGRATION SHOULD HAPPEN.

AS WELL AS STACEY BRECHLER-KNAGGS WHO'S GOING TO SUPPORT THAT.

WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT PIECE OF IT TODAY AND THAT WILL TAKE A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME.

THAT WILL COME RIGHT AFTER OUR MONSOON UPDATE.

HOWEVER, IF BRIAN'S RUNNING A LITTLE BIT LATE, WE MIGHT JUMP AHEAD ON THE AGENDA. IF YOU DON'T MIND.

>> YES, PLEASE.

>> I WILL DO THAT. WE'LL START WITH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT UPDATES.

WE'LL PUSH FORWARD AND WE'LL COME BACK TO OUR MONSOON FORECASTS FOR THE SEASON. OH, THERE HE IS.

JUST IN TIME. SORRY, BRIAN, I APOLOGIZE TO DO THIS TO YOU, BUT I DO THANK YOU FOR JUMPING ON QUICKLY.

WE'VE JUST GOT TO THAT POINT IN THE AGENDA WHERE WE HAVE YOUR PRESENTATION UP AND READY.

>> ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YEAH, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, AS MOST PEOPLE KNOW, OUR MISSION IS TO SERVE AS THE AUTHORITATIVE SOURCE OF WEATHER DATA FORECASTS AND WARNINGS FOR THE PROTECTION OF LIVES AND PROPERTY OVER NORTHERN ARIZONA.

YEAH, ABOUT 22 DEDICATED PROFESSIONALS OUT THERE IN BELMONT IN OUR OFFICE.

IN THE OFFICE WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO OR THREE METEOROLOGISTS ON STAFF 24/7, ALWAYS WATCHING THE WEATHER, ALWAYS SEEING HOW WE CAN HELP AND HOW WE CAN SERVE.

WE REALLY DO HAVE A GREAT HISTORY OF THE WEATHER SERVICE IN FLAGSTAFF, OF WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY IN PROVIDING THOSE CRITICAL FORECASTS, ALERTS, OUTLOOK TO THE COMMUNITY.

JUST THE ACTIONS WHICH OCCURRED THIS PAST WEEKEND WERE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE 2022 MONSOON SEASON BEGAN EARLY, ABOUT TWO WEEKS EARLY.

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WE'RE SEEING A CHANGE WITH THE RAPIDLY DIMINISHING FIRE RISK THAT WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR, EVOLVING INTO THE TRADITIONAL MONSOON THREATS OF DAILY STORMS, LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN, IT'S A THREAT AND FLOODING.

WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN THE PICTURE IS JUST RAINFALL TOTALS THROUGH YESTERDAY SHOWING THE WONDER ALMOST TWO INCHES AND THE NORTHERN PART OF THE CITY, THE REST OF THE CITY, ABOUT A HALF INCH TO AN INCH IS AS WELL AHEAD AND NORMAL.

IN JUNE WE AVERAGED ABOUT ONE TO TWO-TENTHS ON AVERAGE.

WE'RE WAY AHEAD OF NORMAL WITH HOW THE MONSOON IS STARTED THIS YEAR.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WHERE ARE WE HEADED THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS? WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT TYPICAL EBB AND FLOW OF THE MONSOON OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS WE'RE GOING TO BE WETTER.

TOMORROW AND THURSDAY WE SHOULD SEE A WIDESPREAD AND RAIN ACROSS THE AREA AND OF COURSE, AN ENHANCED THREAT OF FLOOD OVER THE BURN SCARS.

WE'RE GOING TO ROLL INTO A DRIER PERIOD LATE IN THE WEEKEND AND INTO NEXT WEEK AND THEN IT'S GOING TO TURN AROUND AGAIN AS WE SEE THAT IT DOES.

BUT OVERALL, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WHERE WE'RE HEADED IS THAT THE MONSOON IS A WHOLE, IS LEANING TOWARD AN ABOVE NORMAL MONSOON.

IF WE TAKE THE JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER PERIOD.

WITH THIS WILL BE THE ENHANCED THREAT OF FLOODING WITH THE TYPICAL MONSOON STORMS THAT WE SEE OVER OUR BURN SCARS.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE CITY, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE COUNTY IN ALERTING THE PUBLIC FOR ANY FLOOD SITUATIONS THAT DO ARISE.

THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THAT'S MY LAST SLIDE.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME REGARDING MONSOON SEASON? I'M NOT SEEING ANY.

THANK YOU, SO PLEASE PROCEED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THAT, AND THANK YOU, BRIAN.

THEIR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE WEATHER SERVICE HAS BEEN NOT JUST A SEASONAL DISASTER ONE, BUT ALL SEASONS, IF YOU WILL.

WINTER IS VITAL FOR US, SO HUGE THANK YOU TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND EVERYTHING YOU-ALL DO.

WITH THAT I WILL HAND OVER TO, [OVERLAPPING] SORRY ABOUT THAT, BRIAN.

I'LL HAND IT OVER TO CHIEF GUYARD TO KICK US OFF FOR THE NEXT PIECE.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

JUST A BIT OF A RAPID-FIRE DELIVERY ON EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

PARTICULARLY HOPEFULLY ADDRESS QUESTIONS AND OR CONCERNS.

WHAT IS THE MAYOR AND OR COUNCIL MEMBERS' ROLE IN THESE TYPES OF EMERGENCY? HOPEFULLY WE'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.

I'LL TELL YOU THAT WITH RESPECT TO THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FUNCTION, YOUR BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE ADOPTED FOR NEXT YEAR HAS GOT SOME VERY IMPORTANT ENHANCEMENTS FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CITY IN FLAGSTAFF.

THERE IS A GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR THAT IN OUR WORLD IS ALSO VERY TIED TO THE RECOVERY EFFORT AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND WE'LL GO OVER SOME OF THOSE CONCEPTS.

BUT RECOVERY IS A BIG PIECE OF THAT.

HOW DO WE RESTORE THE COMMUNITY POST-DISASTER TO THE NEW NORMAL AND THE RESTORATION OF NOT ONLY MUNICIPAL SERVICES, BUT QUALITY OF LIFE IN THAT COMMUNITY? THE ADDITION OF THAT POSITION, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ALSO UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF STACEY BK, WE WILL ALSO BE PUTTING IN THE COMMUNITIES FIRST FULL-TIME EMERGENCY MANAGER.

IT IS AMAZING NEWS.

I WON'T QUANTIFY IT WITH A DESCRIPTION, BUT IT'S TIME AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT CAPABILITY COMING TO THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

AS WE TAKE A QUICK LOOK, JUST A REMINDER, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR US.

THESE DISASTERS, THEY START LOCALLY.

THEY TYPICALLY ARE AN EVENT AND IT COULD BE MULTI JURISDICTIONAL.

IT COULD BE A SINGLE JURISDICTIONAL INCIDENT.

BUT FOR INSTANCE, THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING ABOUT FLOODING ARE CLEARLY MULTI JURISDICTIONAL, UNINCORPORATED, INCORPORATED AREAS.

WE HAVE A SENSE OF THE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AND WE NEED A FRAMEWORK TO DO THAT WITHIN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

BUT AS YOU SEE, WE'VE GOT LOCAL RESPONSE.

THEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REACH OUT IN OUR REGION, THE GREATER FLAGSTAFF REGION.

EXAMPLES OF THAT AND YOU ALL HAVE SUPPORTED THE CREATION OF AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENTS.

OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION HAS AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER GOVERNMENTAL PUBLIC WORKS ENTITIES.

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THAT'S THE FIRST PLACE THAT THAT AID COMES.

WE ALSO HAVE A STATE RESPONSE AND THEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REQUEST ASSISTANCE FROM OTHER STATES.

SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL AND YOU MAY HAVE APPROVED THE COMPACT OF GAVE US THE ABILITY TO SHARE RESOURCES ACROSS STATE LINES.

THEN CERTAINLY THE FEDERAL RESPONSE, AND ALWAYS YOU'VE HEARD THAT IN YOUR INTERACTIONS WHERE YOU HAVE APPROVED A DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY.

MANY TIMES THOSE DECLARATIONS ARE TO ADDRESS THE LACK OF RESOURCES, BUT THEY ARE ALSO TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ACCESSING FEDERAL FUNDS THAT CAN BE USED ON A LOCAL LEVEL TO BEGIN TO RECOVER.

IT'S VERY INTEGRATED.

IT'S VERY UPWARDS.

IN OUR PARTICULAR CASE, WE GO TO THE COUNTY AND OUR FIRST STOP IS TO REQUEST ASSISTANCE AND DECLARE EMERGENCIES TO THE COUNTY, AND IT'S BY DESIGN A LARGER NATIONAL SYSTEM.

JUST A REMINDER SO MUCH OF THIS, I'VE BEEN DOING A LITTLE BIT OF THIS WHEN I BECAME EMERGENCY MANAGER WAS PROBABLY IN 1986 AND WE DIDN'T CALL THEM, THEN WE CALLED THEM CIVIL DEFENSE DIRECTORS.

I HAVE A WHOLE CLOSET FULL OF PAMPHLETS TO TEACH YOU HOW TO BUILD A BACKYARD BOMB SHELTER.

[LAUGHTER] BUT THAT EVOLVED TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, CERTAINLY POST 9/11.

WE SAW HOMELAND SECURITY AND ENROLLED INTO THAT.

QUITE HONESTLY, THE BEGINNING OF A LOT OF INTERDISCIPLINARY COOPERATION THAT PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001 SIMPLY DID NOT EXIST.

WE HAVE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THAT LANDSCAPE.

BUT THE PRIMARY AUTHORITY GIVEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR IS CLEARLY DEFINED IN STATE STATUTE AND THEN ALMOST REPLICATED WORD FOR WORD IN CITY CODE.

IT'S BEEN THAT ROUGHLY SAME LANGUAGE.

I'LL SAY SINCE AT LEAST 1986 BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN I FIRST READ IT.

THAT'S WHERE YOUR AUTHORITY COMES FROM THAT DEFINES THE RESPONSIBILITY.

WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE ELEMENTS OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

THIS IS A CLASSIC VIEW OF PREPAREDNESS, RESPONSE, MITIGATION, AND RECOVERY.

IT'S JUST REALLY SUPER IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE IN THAT BUSINESS EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR.

IN THE CONTEXT OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE, YOU HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, A FIRE DEPARTMENT, A CARE UNIT THAT GOES OUT AND TRIES TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES EVERY DAY.

WITH RESPECT TO THE PREPAREDNESS ELEMENTS, YOU MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ADOPTING A MULTI JURISDICTION OR HAZARD MITIGATION PROGRAM, I SHOULD SAY.

YOU'RE IN THAT BUSINESS ALL THE TIME.

SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE IN THE TIME OF A DISASTER THAT IT'S ALL NEW.

IT CAN, BECAUSE IT CAN BE RAPIDLY UNFOLDING.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THIS EXAMPLE HERE THAT YOUR CITY, TEAM FLAGSTAFF IS INVOLVED IN EVERY ASPECT OF THIS ALL THE TIME AND THIS ACTUALLY SHOULD BE UPDATED.

OUR PROS DIVISION, CLEARLY A PART OF THAT EFFORT AS WELL.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING CONTEXT TO THE CONTINUUM OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

IT IS NOT JUST WHEN THERE IS WATER RUNNING THROUGH OUR STREETS OR SMOKE IN THE AIR IMPACTING US AND GIVING US CONCERNS ABOUT WHERE THAT MIGHT GO.

IN THE FRAMEWORK OF HOW THESE EMERGENCIES ARE, HOW THEY ARE MANAGED, I THINK ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT CAME OUT, ONE OF THE FINDINGS OF SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001 WAS THERE WAS NO COMMON NATIONAL FRAMEWORK FOR INCIDENT MANAGEMENT.

IN THE AFTERMATH OF THAT, WE NOW HAVE THE NATIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, NIMS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD IT CALLED.

THIS SYSTEM IS THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM.

IT PROVIDES US WITH A COMMON VOCABULARY NOMENCLATURE SO THAT AS WE TALK UP TO THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, TO OTHER FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS OUTSIDE OUR REGION, WE'VE GOT A COMMON FRAMEWORK SO THAT WE HAVE BETTER COMMUNICATION ABOUT WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE, AND OR HOW CAN WE HELP YOU MEET YOUR NEEDS.

RESOURCES ARE TYPED IN

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TO SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF THAT.

WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHO DOES WHAT SLIDE HERE, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS ESSENTIALLY THE ELEMENT OF THE COMMAND AND CONTROL OF AN EOC.

IT IS ALSO THE SAME STRUCTURE THAT'S USED.

MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT I'M HERE WITH TODAY ARE PART OF THE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF THAT IS PREPARED AND CONTINUING TO PREPARE FOR FLOOD EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.

THEY WILL USE THE SAME STRUCTURE.

FIRES IN THE FOREST AND IN THE CITY, SAME STRUCTURE.

WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THIS IS THE UNIFORM STANDARDIZED STRUCTURE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS AN INCIDENT COMMANDER.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S AN OPERATIONS SECTION.

I'LL DISTINGUISH A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IN EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTERS AND PARTICULARLY HOW IT INTERACTS WITH COUNCILS IN JUST A MOMENT.

BUT THE PLANNING SECTION, THAT PIECE THAT BRINGS IN INFORMATION, DEVELOPS OBJECTIVES, AND CONTINUES TO CREATE PLANS FOR THE OPERATIONAL PERIOD FOR THE INCIDENT AND OR EVENT IS A BIG PART OF WHAT KEEPS US ON TRACK.

LOGISTICS RESOURCES ARE HUGE IN CONTEXTS OF, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE DIFFICULT GETTING A HOLD OF A JERSEY BARRIER IN NORTHERN ARIZONA RIGHT NOW.

SAND BAGS, WE WERE IN MEETINGS.

THAT COORDINATION OF RESOURCES TO ACQUIRE WHAT IS NEEDED BASED ON THE TYPE OF EMERGENCY, THAT'S A LOGISTICAL FUNCTION.

THEN CERTAINLY FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION.

LOCAL GOVERNMENTS BY DEFINITION HAVE CONSTRAINTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE AMOUNT OF REVENUES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND BUDGETS AVAILABLE.

THE FINANCE SECTION IT HELPS US KEEP TRACK OF COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH RESPONDING.

THEY ALSO PROVIDE VITAL INFORMATION THAT HELPS US FOR GETTING RECOVERY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND HIGHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.

THIS STRUCTURE IS VERY CONSISTENTLY APPLIED WHETHER IT'S IN AN INCIDENT COMMAND POST AT A SINGLE JURISDICTION FLYER, WHETHER IT'S A MULTI JURISDICTIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM IN PLACE, OR WHETHER IT'S A CITY, A COUNTY, OR A JOINT CITY COUNTY EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

THAT'S THE STRUCTURE THAT YOU SHOULD ANTICIPATE SEEING.

THE ROLE OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

WE HAVE SOME DIFFERENCES UNDER A DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY VERSUS NOT IN A DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY.

IF WE DON'T HAVE A DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY, THE COUNCIL SOMEWHAT FUNCTIONS THE WAY YOU DO NOW.

BUSINESS MEETINGS, POSTED PROPER PUBLIC MEETINGS, DECISION-MAKING AS THE BODY.

UNDER A DECLARATION, WE SEE THE MAYOR TO EXPEDITE DECISION-MAKING AND EXPEDITE THE GOVERNANCE IS GIVEN SPECIAL POWERS.

YOU SEE THAT HERE IN THIS SLIDE HERE, THE ABILITY TO DECLARE EMERGENCIES.

DURING THE EMERGENCY BY PROCLAMATION YOU SEE A LIST AND THOSE VERY TRADITIONAL BEEN IN STATUTE FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.

THE CITY COUNCIL WHERE YOU SEE THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES I'LL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO DURING WAR, SUSPEND PROCUREMENT.

THAT'S HOW OLD SOME OF THIS LANGUAGE IS.

IT IS LITERALLY COLD WAR-ERA LANGUAGE THAT LIVES CONTINUING IN OUR STATE STATUTES.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ROLES DURING AN ACTUAL DECLARATION.

WHAT I REALLY WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE POLICY GROUP.

IF YOUR PROFESSIONAL EMERGENCY MANAGERS NEED GUIDANCE FROM YOU, THEN YOU WILL BE ASKED TO COME TOGETHER IN A POLICY GROUP AND IT WILL BE THE BODY.

I KNOW EVEN THOUGH DURING THE COVID, I KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A DECLARATION AND WE HAD A MAYOR THAT WAS ACTING UNDERNEATH HER MAYORAL POWERS THAT MAYOR CHOSE TO ENGAGE THE COUNCIL FOR MANY OF THE POLICY DISCUSSIONS THAT TOOK PLACE.

THIS POLICY GROUP WILL GET TOGETHER AND ESTABLISH POLICY MISSION,

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I WILL TELL YOU THAT MOST OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGERS BEHIND ME HAVE CLARITY.

WE HAVE A CLEAR MISSION, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR ROLE IS, BUT EVERY NOW AND THEN, WE NEED TO CONSULT WITH THE POLICYMAKERS.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IS ASSIST THE PUBLIC AND WHEN WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY OR DISASTER IN OUR COMMUNITY, ONE OF THE BIG DEAL ITEMS THAT WE CAN DO TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY IS GOOD INFORMATION AND DIRECTION ABOUT THE EMERGENCY AND KNOW WHAT IS OCCURRING AND WHAT THEY CAN DO TO BE RESILIENT DURING THAT EMERGENCY.

IT'S REALLY ONE OF THE BIG PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE CAN ENGAGE IN IS THE COLLECTION OF INFORMATION AND WE CAN ASK CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, EACH OF YOU AS A CONSTITUENT BODY, AND OUR DESIRE IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH TIMELY FACTUAL INFORMATION AT THE RIGHT TIME, GETTING TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

I'LL JUST SAY THAT THERE ARE EXAMPLES IN THE STUDY OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WHERE COMMUNITIES GOT A LITTLE SIDEWAYS AND THEY GAVE OUT INCONSISTENT MESSAGES OR INCORRECT MESSAGES TO THE CONSTITUENTS OF THAT JURISDICTION.

I'VE BEEN ON SOME PHONE CALLS WITH THE MAYOR MORE THAN ONCE.

[LAUGHTER] CAN I SAY THIS OUT LOUD? THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS AND WE WELCOME THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S SO VITALLY IMPORTANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY GET GOOD INFORMATION.

SOMETIMES WE CAN BE VERY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE'RE STILL VETTING IT IN SOMETHING CALLED THE JOINT INFORMATION CENTER.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS BUT ONCE WE HAVE THAT MESSAGE, THE ASSISTANCE OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND HELPING US GET THAT MESSAGE OUT IS A GREAT WAY TO STAY INCLUDED AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE WORD OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO GET YOU THAT INFORMATION AS FAST AS WE CAN AND TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT CAN BE SHARED.

SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE AS THE MAYOR KNOWS, I CAN BE VERY FRUSTRATING OR WE CAN BE FRUSTRATING OR BY, USUALLY, IT'S ABOUT TIMING.

WE KNOW THAT THAT IS A BIG ROLE FOR THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO HELP US DO THAT AND TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT.

HERE'S A REALLY INTERESTING SLIDE AND IT SHOWS THE IMPORTANCE AND ALL THE WORK THAT GOES INTO IT DURING THE TUNNEL FIRE AND DURING FLOOD EVENTS YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A JIC, A JOINT INFORMATION CENTER REFERENCED OFTEN.

FOR INSTANCE, ON THE TUNNEL FIRE, PIPELINE FIRE MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS WERE ALL IN.

WE'VE GOT THE FOREST SERVICE.

WE HAVE THE IMT WITH THEIR OWN PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE.

DO WE HAVE THE CITY WITH OUR OWN PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER? WE HAVE THE COUNTY.

THE JOINT INFORMATION CENTER IS THAT PLACE WHERE THAT INFORMATION IS ALL PROCESSED AND THOSE THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF THE MESSAGE INCIDENT COMMANDER ON THE FIRE, THEY'RE VERY MUCH TIED INTO THE IMPORTANT MESSAGE THAT SHOULD GO OUT.

JUST A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF THAT WAS DURING THE TUNNEL FIRE WE WERE WORKING IN THE SUMMIT FIRE MEDICAL DISTRICT.

IT WAS 12 MINUTES BETWEEN THE RADIO ORDER AND THE GOAL ORDER.

GOOD INFORMATION AND INFORMATION THAT IS NOT NEEDED AT THAT TIME WAS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS GOOD INFORMATION.

PEOPLE NEEDED THAT VITAL INFORMATION IN THAT MOMENT.

THE JIC BECOMES EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR US TO MANAGE THAT TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.

JUST ANOTHER ELEMENT OF HOW THESE LOOK.

WE ALL CONTINUE TO HAVE OUR OWN PIOS BUT THE WORK WAS DONE WITH THE JIC.

I THINK THAT'S A SIMPLE MESSAGE THERE.

THAT HIGHLY COORDINATED RESPONSE TAKES PLACE.

IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER PIECE, THIS IS ONE OF THE TWO REALLY BIG DEAL ITEMS THAT EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER IS GOING TO UNDERTAKE, THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION PIECE TO ASSIST OUR CITIZENS.

THE OTHER PIECE IS THE COORDINATION AND THE ATTAINMENT OF RESOURCES.

SOMETIMES THAT COMES ONCE WE'VE EXHAUSTED OUR LOCAL CAPABILITY AND WILL ENGAGE ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE PROCESS OF HELPING US IDENTIFY RESOURCES THROUGH THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER FUNCTION.

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I WILL TELL YOU THAT STACEY BK IS WORKING NOW WITH OUR COUNTERPARTS AT THE COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO TRY TO SCHEDULE A TIME FOR, I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT A HALF-DAY TRAINING SESSION FOR EXECUTIVE LEADERS SUCH AS YOURSELF, WHERE WE REALLY SPEND A LITTLE TIME AND DO A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE EXECUTIVE LEADERS ROLE IN DISASTERS AND EMERGENCIES.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRY TO GET THAT SCHEDULED.

WE HOPE YOU CAN PARTICIPATE.

I THINK IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS, I THINK IT WILL GO A GREAT WAY TOWARDS GIVING YOU CONFIDENCE WITH RESPECT TO YOUR ROLE DURING AN EMERGENCY.

DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?

>> ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL?

>> THANK YOU.

>> [OVERLAPPING] I WILL CHECK ONLINE HERE.

NO, NOTHING ONLINE. STEVE?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS STEPHEN THOMPSON.

I'M THE VOLUNTEER AND EVENT COORDINATOR FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION.

MYSELF, MARISSA MALLOY, AND AMY HAGEN HAVE BEEN PART OF THE VOLUNTEER GROUP, PART OF THIS WHOLE STRUCTURE.

OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO, WE HAVE HOSTED FOUR DIFFERENT VOLUNTEER DAYS IN SUPPORT OF PROTECTING THE HOMES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN FLOOD AREA.

STARTING OFF IN MAY, WE HAD A DEBRIS CLEAN-UP TO HELP PREVENT POTENTIAL FLOODING IN SOME AREAS.

THEN JUNE 4TH, JUNE 18TH, AND THIS PAST SATURDAY, JUNE 25TH, WE HAD SANDBAGGING EVENTS WHERE WE WERE GOING OUT WITH VOLUNTEERS, PLACING SANDBAGS AROUND HOMES, AND PROTECTING THOSE COMMUNITIES.

OVER THE COURSE OF ALL FOUR EVENTS, WE HAVE HAD OVER 200 VOLUNTEERS ACCUMULATING ALMOST 900 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE TIME WHICH IS REALLY IMPRESSIVE.

OVER THAT TIME, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HELP AROUND 35 INDIVIDUAL HOMES AND SETTING THEM UP FOR SUCCESS FOR THE ONCOMING MONSOONS.

WE DO HAVE ONE FINAL VOLUNTEER DAY COMING UP ON JULY 9TH AND WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO REGISTER IN ADVANCE FOR THAT.

THE MORE HANDS FOR THESE EVENTS, THE BETTER.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS SLIDE, THIS IMAGE, HAVING A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS, A LOT OF HANDS, MAKES FOR LIGHT WORK.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO'S COME OUT AND VOLUNTEERED FOR THESE EVENTS AND ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO JOIN US AS WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I DON'T SEE ANY THIS TIME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL BRANDI SUDA, CITY'S FINANCE DIRECTOR.

JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON OUR MUSEUM FLOODING FINANCIAL FOCUS GROUP.

WE HAVE CONTINUED TO MEET REGULARLY TO DISCUSS THE FINANCIAL RESOURCE NEEDS FOR BOTH PRE- MONSOON ACTIVITY AND FLOOD RESPONSE ACTIVITIES.

REGARDING OUR PRE-MONSOON ACTIVITIES, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED UP TO $400,000 IN PREPARATORY COST NEEDS.

THIS INCLUDES COSTS SUCH AS AND RELATED TO OUR VOLUNTEER EVENTS, SANDBAGS MITIGATION EFFORTS AS WELL AS THE SIREN SYSTEM.

THE STORMWATER FUND IS THE GREATEST IMPACTED FUND BY THESE COSTS.

RELATED TO FLOOD RESPONSE ACTIVITIES, WHICH INCLUDES, AND AS RELATED TO POTENTIAL ACTION AND COST DURING A FLOOD EVENT OR EVENTS THIS SUMMER, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED BETWEEN 426,000 AND OUR RECENT UPDATED ESTIMATE OF JUST OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN COSTS.

THESE ESTIMATES DO NOT INCLUDE ANY DAMAGE COST OR REPAIRS DUE TO FLOODING, BUT INCLUDE COSTS RELATED TO STRAIGHT CLEAN UP, DEBRIS REMOVAL, AND SANDBAG EFFORTS.

WITH THAT I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU. I'M NOT SEEING ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU.

>> I'LL TURN IT OVER TO SAM.

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>> THANK YOU, BRANDI. YES, SHE DID REMOVE MY P CARDS, SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT AT THIS POINT.

[LAUGHTER] WITH THAT, WE ALSO WANT TO NOTE SOME OF THE FUNDING WE FOUND OUTSIDE OF OUR INTERNAL FUNDING, WHICH WAS THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND FORESTRY MANAGEMENT FUNDING.

MANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE PURCHASED WE'VE REMOVED FROM THIS LIST AS WE'VE UPDATED AND THEY'VE COME IN.

MANY OF THEM ARE BEING USED TO DATE.

THE PICTURE HERE IN THE BOTTOM CORNER IS ONE THAT WE TOOK OFF THE INTERNET.

HOWEVER, OUR SANDBAGGER DID SHOW UP TODAY, SO VERY EXCITING NEWS THERE.

IT WILL BE UP AND RUNNING TOMORROW.

VERY GOOD NEWS THERE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU'LL SEE IN GREEN, WE HAVE ADDED TO SOME OF OUR REQUESTS.

WITH THE ADDITION OF A NEW FIRE COMES NEW IMPACTS.

THOSE IMPACTS ARE REQUIRING SOME FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND DFFM DOES QUALIFY OR THESE IMPACTS DO QUALIFY FOR THEIR FUNDING.

WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL ITEMS THROUGH THERE, AND AS WE GET MORE WE'LL UPDATE YOU.

WE'LL KEEP THAT SEPARATE BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS.

I SEE CHRISTINE ON AND I'LL HAND IT OVER TO HER.

>> THANKS, SAM. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M CHRISTINE CAMERON, PROJECT MANAGER WITH CITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

THE LARGE CONCRETE BOX CULVERT ACROSS THE DORTHA IS COMPLETE, ALONG WITH THE INLET AND THE OUTLET STRUCTURES FOR THE BOX.

THE SHOCK CREEK CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS FROM CEDAR TO DORTHA ARE ALSO COMPLETE.

THE PRIMARY DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS ARE NOW WRAPPING UP FOR THE PROJECT AND WE ARE READY TO TAKE WATER.

WE'VE SEEN SOME WATER COME THROUGH AND EVERYTHING IS OPERATING FINE.

TIFFANY CONSTRUCTION WILL BE COMPLETING THE SURFACE IMPROVEMENTS ON DORTHA AVENUE OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

THIS INCLUDES CONCRETE SIDEWALK, CURB AND GUTTER, ASPHALT STREET SURFACE, IN ADDITION TO REINSTALLING SOME PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE DISTURBED LIKE FENCING AND PARKING AREAS.

THE BARRIERS ON DORTHA ARE ANTICIPATED TO STAY IN PLACE UNTIL THE PROJECT IS FULLY COMPLETE.

WE HOPE TO OPEN THE STREET BACK-UP SOON, WHEN WE ARE CLOSED OUT.

I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO SAM. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, CHRISTINE. I APPRECIATE IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY REALIZES THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT AND TIME THAT IT TOOK TO GET THAT PROJECT DONE IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME OR TO THE POINT IT'S AT, BUT A HUGE THANK YOU TO CHRISTINE AND EVERYBODY WHO SUPPORTED THAT.

QUICK UPDATE ON PONDEROSA, AND THIS WILL BE THE LAST UPDATE FOR PONDEROSA PARK.

IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THE LANDSCAPE HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.

IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PROUD OF.

IT'S JUST WHAT HAD TO HAPPEN FOR THE SAFETY OF NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA AND THE CHILDREN, BUT TO REDUCE THE ADDITIONAL IMPACTS TO THE KILLIP DETENTION BASIN.

RIGHT NOW THE PARK IS, IN A SENSE, JUST A DIRT FIELD AND IT IS PREPPED AND READY FOR WHATEVER FLOWS MAY COME THROUGH THERE THIS YEAR THAT WILL WIND UP IN THE KILLIP DETENTION BASINS.

NEW BARRIER HAS BEEN PLACED IN THAT PARK TO ENSURE A LITTLE EXTRA PROTECTION AND GUIDANCE FOR THAT WATER AS IT COMES THROUGH TO FUNNEL IT INTO THE INLET FOR THE KILLIP STRUCTURES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T TEAR UP ANYTHING ELSE IN THAT AREA AND THAT IT ALL WORKS PROPERLY.

FROM HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE LUCINDA ANDREANI ON WITH US.

I KNOW THAT SHE HAD COUNTY PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT FOR THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT. PERFECT, NO WORRIES.

JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON THESE, THEIR PROJECTS UP ON FOREST AND WITHIN MOUNT ELDEN ESTATES HAVE COME TO AN END.

I DROVE UP THERE EARLIER THIS WEEK, AND THE MOUNT ELDEN ESTATES PROJECT, IT IS READY FOR WHATEVER IMPACTS IT MAY OR MAY NOT SEE.

THE ON FOREST PROJECTS, THAT WE'LL HAVE TO GET THE FINAL CONFIRMATION ON THAT.

HOWEVER, THEY WERE AT THE VERY END OF THAT PROJECT, I BELIEVE IT IS COMPLETED.

BUT I'LL HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL CLEAR ON THAT.

THESE ARE TWO VERY KEY PROJECTS FOR SEDIMENT REDUCTION AND FOR STABILIZATION OF THAT CHANNEL TO ENSURE THAT HOPEFULLY WE REDUCE IMPACTS FURTHER DOWN INTO THE CITY JURISDICTION WITH THESE.

SO TRULY A GREAT PARTNERSHIP AND GREAT WORK COMPLETED HERE.

WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO SARAH, PROBABLY OUR MOST IMPORTANT PIECE.

>> THANK YOU, SAM, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SARAH LANGLEY, PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIRECTOR.

BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE COMMUNICATIONS EFFORTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST MONTH OF JUNE.

AS STEVEN MENTIONED, THE HARD WORK CONTINUES ON THE VOLUNTEER DAYS, SO A BIG THANKS TO OUR FRIENDS IN SUSTAINABILITY PROS AND PUBLIC WORKS FOR MAKING THAT A SUCCESS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING ON THOSE.

WE ALSO PUT OUT A COMMUNICATIONS PIECE TO LET RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THE FLOOD RISK REMAINS VERY REAL.

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THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT THE CASE.

YOU DEFINITELY NEED TO KEEP YOUR SANDBAGS IN PLACE.

THE THREAT OF FLOODING REMAINS REALLY REAL.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS WILL HELP BUT THEY WILL NOT SOLVE EVERYTHING.

VERY IMPORTANT TO STAY ALERT DURING THIS MONSOON SEASON AND KEEP ALL OF YOUR EMERGENCY MITIGATIONS IN PLACE.

ANOTHER BIG THING WE DID WAS SUCCESSFUL TESTING OF THE SIRENS SYSTEMS. BIG THANKS TO THE COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM ON THE CITY SIDE.

SOME OF YOU CAME OUT FOR THAT, SO THANKS FOR MAKING THAT.

WE GOT SOME GREAT FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS.

I KNOW EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DID ADJUST THE VOLUME A LITTLE BIT AFTER THAT, SO SOME FINE TUNING TAKING PLACE THERE.

ALSO KEY WITH THE SIREN SYSTEMS IS TO NOTE THAT THAT IS A SUPPLEMENTARY OR COMPLIMENTARY NOTICING SYSTEM.

STILL VERY IMPORTANT TO SIGN UP FOR EMERGENCY ALERTS FROM THE COUNTY, AND THOSE ARE THOSE TEXT MESSAGES THAT YOU'LL RECEIVE.

LOOKING FORWARD, WE HAVE, OF COURSE ONE LAST VOLUNTEER EVENT.

WE'LL BE MESSAGING ON THAT, AND THEN WE ARE ALSO PREPARED TO MESSAGE IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO GET A FLOOD EVENT THIS YEAR OR MULTIPLE FLOOD EVENTS, WE'LL BE READY FOR THOSE.

I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

MAYOR, I'LL PASS IT BACK OVER TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS OR PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GO TO COUNSEL, I'D LIKE TO TAKE PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS.

DON, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME ON UP, DON RODRIGUEZ.

[NOISE]

>> I COULDN'T PUSH THE BUTTON.

MAYOR, DC, VICE MAYOR SWEET, COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND EVERYONE THAT CAME TODAY IN THE AUDIENCE.

SIX NEW FAMILIES HAVE MOVED INTO OUR BLOCK THIS SUMMER.

POST INFORMATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT HOW THEY CAN GET AN ON-SITE ASSESSMENT.

SEND OUT ANOTHER REMINDER ABOUT REGISTERING FOR ALERTS AND INCLUDE INFORMATION ON HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE GET THEM AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T.

IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE WILL BE LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE AFFECTED MORE THAN OTHERS, START ALL EFFORTS WITH THOSE PEOPLE.

MANY ELDERLY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO REQUEST HELP.

THERE ARE STILL MEETINGS BEING HELD WITHOUT BEING POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

ALSO WHEN THERE IS ANY TYPE OF EVENTS LIKE THESE, POST THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE PERSON IN CHARGE THAT DAY.

LAST MONTH THERE WAS A MAJOR GAS LEAK BEHIND THE HOUSE.

OUR STREET HAD VARIOUS GROUPS OF DIFFERENT SUBCONTRACTORS AND SO MANY UNISOURCE VEHICLES.

THERE WERE POLICE, AMBULANCES, AND FIRE, NO ONE EVER TOOK THE LEAD.

TODAY THEY HAD A CRANE, EVERY HEAVY MACHINERY, BUT NO ROAD CLOSED SIGNS.

THIS IS A PLEA FOR HELP WE NEED TRAFFIC CONTROL DESPERATELY.

EVEN THOUGH THE STREET NAME CHANGES FROM GRANDVIEW TO MAINE, THE WATER DOESN'T STOP AT GRANDVIEW IT KEEPS GOING.

GRANDVIEW HAS TWO ROAD CLOSED SIGNS AND MAINE HAS ZERO.

DURING THE FLOODS, IT WOULD BE FUN TO POST A SIGN THAT SAYS OPEN TO PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, BRING YOUR OWN SHOVEL AND ASK ROTARY CLUB, RTC ALSO VOLUNTEERS, FOR HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC.

EVERYONE PLAYS EVERYONE.

PLACES THAT HAVE NEVER FLOODED BEFORE ARE NOW FLOODING, RESOURCES ARE LIMITED.

ALL THE HELP REAL THAT FLAG RESIDENTS HAVE HAD IN THE PAST ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO ANYONE ANYMORE.

FLOOD EQUITY INCLUDES BYLAW AS WE HEARD EARLIER, EACH HOMEOWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR PROPERTY, AND THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DRAINS.

WE SHOULDN'T COUNT ON THE CITY TO DO EVERYTHING FOR US.

ALL ROADS SHOULD HAVE TRASH RACKS OVER DRAINS SO THAT EACH NEIGHBORHOOD IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR OWN DEBRIS THAT DOESN'T GO DOWNHILL.

JERSEY BARRIERS. CHIEF, HOW DO YOU GET MORE JERSEY BARRIERS? USE THEM WISELY. THEY SHOULD ONLY BE USED AT HOMES WHERE LIVES ARE IN DANGER, LIKE THE CORNER OF LINDA VISTA.

AT APARTMENTS, OR TRAILERS WITH MORE THAN TWO UNITS ON A PROPERTY AND AT SCHOOLS.

EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD DEAL WITH THEIR OWN WATER LOAD AND THE CITY SHOULD NEVER DAM UP AREAS LIKE CUL-DE-SACS AND DIVERT EXTRA WATER AT AN INCREASED FLOW RATE INTO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.

NEIGHBORS, WHY ARE YOU BLAMING EACH OTHER WHEN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE POTENTIALLY UNDERWATER.

HAVE BEEN LAST YEAR, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS YEAR.

BECAUSE ENTIRE STREETS ARE STILL ILLEGALLY CLOSED OFF WITH TREE BARRIERS.

LIKE AT DOROTHY, THERE IS FENCING THERE, SO IT'S LIKE DOUBLE-DIPPING.

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BUT IT NEEDS TO BE FAIR AND IT NEEDS TO BE TRANSPARENT.

LIKE CHIEF SAID, LET'S JUST TRY TO GET BETTER.

WE NEED STRONG LEADERSHIP, CONTINUE TO BE BRAVE, AND PRESS FORWARD.

WE HAVE CAPABLE PEOPLE, ACCEPT THEIR HELP. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, DON. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?

>> NO MAYOR, WE DO NOT.

>> THANK YOU. THEN WITH THAT THANK YOU, DON.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, CLARIFICATIONS, ANYTHING NEEDED REGARDING THE PRESENTATION? COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY.

>> [NOISE] EARLIER TONIGHT, WE HEARD A COMMENT FROM A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WAS NOTING THAT WE HAVE WASHES, DRAINAGE DITCHES THAT ARE FULL OF DEBRIS, BRANCHES, WALKERS, [LAUGHTER] I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE, ICE CHEST, MAYBE.

ANYWAY, THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY CITY PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE WASHES, THE ONLY PURPOSE OF WHICH IS TO CONVEY WATER AWAY, ARE KEPT CLEAN SO THAT THEY CAN DO THEIR JOB BECAUSE IF THEY CLOG UP, THEN THEY CAN'T FLOW WATER? YOU GET THE GIST OF IT.

>> [LAUGHTER] YEAH. THANK YOU. I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THAT AS BEST YOU CAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, EDGE SHANK, STORMWATER MANAGER.

WE DO HAVE A STORMWATER MAINTENANCE PROGRAM HERE WITHIN THE CITY THAT IS DELEGATED TO CLEANING ABOUT 26.2 MILES OF FEMA RECOGNIZE CHANNELS, AS WELL AS OVER 100 MILES OF SMALL MINOR DITCHES, SWALES, DEPRESSIONS, ETC, THAT WE HAVE MAPPED OUT AND THAT ARE WITHIN CITY-OWNED PARCELS, CITY EASEMENT, CITY RIGHT OF WAY.

NOW, I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE WE ARE RESTRICTED TO CITY-OWNED PARCELS, CITY EASEMENTS, CITY RIGHT OF WAY.

IF IT IS A PRIVATE PARCEL OR A PRIVATE AREA THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT LANGUAGE TO GET INTO, IT GETS A LITTLE TRICKIER ON WHAT WE CAN MAINTAIN.

THE AREA THAT'S MENTIONED, IN YOUR DOWNTOWN, THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT ARE CITY-OWNED, CITY EASEMENT, CITY MAINTAINED THROUGH ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

PART OF THAT 26.2 MILES, ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE RIO OBVIOUSLY.

OUR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM DOES HAVE A BUDGET OBVIOUSLY.

WE DO HAVE TWO WATER SERVICE OPERATORS THAT ARE TASKED FOR THOSE 26 MILES.

WE DO CALL UPON OUR OTHER DIVISIONS AND SECTIONS AS NEEDED FOR HELP BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, TWO PEOPLE IS A LITTLE LOW FOR THAT STRETCH OF AREA.

FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POST-FIRE EVENTS, WE CAN REACH OUT FOR MORE RESOURCES.

AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED, WE WORKED THROUGH THE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM.

WE ARE DOING THAT FOR CLEANUP AND FOR CLEAN OUT FOR AREAS.

IT SHOULD BE MENTIONED THAT IT'S VERY HARD NOT TO GET NOT ONLY FOR BARRIER, IT'S NOT ONLY HARD TO GET BARRIER IN NORTHERN ARIZONA RIGHT NOW, IT'S ALSO VERY HARD TO GET CONSERVATION CREWS AND TO GET THE RESOURCES THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.

BUT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT WE DO HAVE A WORK ORDER SYSTEM FOR CLEANING OUT THOSE DITCHES, FOR CLEANING OUT THOSE CHANNELS.

IT SHOULD BE ALSO NOTED THAT OBVIOUSLY THERE MAY BE IMPLICATIONS TO DRAINAGE IF YOU HAVE SOME DEBRIS WITHIN THE CHANNEL.

BUT FOR SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR MUSEUM FIRE AND SHORTLY FOR PIPELINE FIRE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF WATER.

FOR BOTH FIRE AREAS AND BURN SCARS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEVERAL MAGNITUDES, SEVERAL TIMES HIGHER AMOUNT OF FLOW THAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO SEE OFF THESE WATERSHEDS.

A LOT OF THE ISSUES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THROUGH MUSEUM FIRE AND THAT WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THROUGH THE PIPELINE FIRE IN THE NEXT CONVERSATION, ARE REALLY DUE TO A HUGE AMOUNT OF NEW WATER THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE DUE TO THOSE COMPROMISED WATERSHEDS.

A LOT OF THE FLOODING THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT A VOLUME OF WATER, IT'S MUCH LARGER THAN BEFORE, AND A PEAK FLOW.

THAT WAVE, IF YOU WILL, IT'S NOT REALLY A WAVE.

THE HIGH AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE FOR THAT FIRST FLUSH THAT, CAUSES THE FLOODING.

DEBRIS, VEGETATION, ETC, THAT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE CAUSE OF A LOT OF THIS FLOODING.

THE CAUSE IS A HIGH RAINFALL EVENT AND ALSO A COMPROMISED WATERSHED.

DID THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION OR I CAN GO INTO MORE DETAILS?

>> WELL, I THINK SO. YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE HAVING THESE VERY UNUSUAL WATER EVENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE A COMPROMISED FOREST THAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER BEFORE TO KEEP THESE CHANNELS OPEN.

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I'M JUST ENCOURAGING THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IT.

IF IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, I GUESS IN SOME CASES, IT'S STILL A CONVEYANCE OF A STREAM BED IN EFFECT.

WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT SOMEHOW.

IT'S MAYBE, WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS OR I WOULD THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT WE COULD BE A LITTLE MORE ASSERTIVE ABOUT IT IF WE NEED TO BE.

THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THIS ANYWAY.

THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.

I THINK YOU BASICALLY ANSWERED IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK.

THIS HAS BEEN A HERCULEAN EFFORT TO BE ABLE TO GET THE DORSAL INLET COMPLETED AND SEEING ALL THE PROGRESS SINCE LAST MONSOON SEASON.

IT'S JUST AMAZING. I KNOW WE GOT A LOT MORE HERCULINE TASKS AHEAD TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS SAFE AND FEEL SAFE.

I JUST REALLY AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF TEAM FLAGSTAFF AND ALL OF OUR PARTNERS ASSOCIATED TO GETTING THESE PROJECTS COMPLETED AND UNDERWAY. THANK YOU.

WITH THAT, IT IS 5:20 AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A 15-MINUTE BREAK SO 5:33, WE CAN START BACK UP.

[BACKGROUND] RIGHT LET'S GET STARTED BACK UP HERE AGAIN.

WE ARE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10,

[10. Pipeline Fire West Flood Risk Update Presentation and Update]

YOU KICKING US OFF ED?

>> YES [OVERLAPPING]

>>ARE YOU GOING TO HERE? [LAUGHTER]

>>I GUESS I'LL KICK IT OFF.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR STICKING AROUND THIS LATE.

ED SCHENK STILL WANT TO MENTION AGAIN, WE HAVE SAM BECKETT HERE, WHOSE IS INSTANT MANAGEMENT.

WHAT IS YOUR NAME? CHIEF?

>> SURE.

>> INSTANT MANAGER CHIEF, AS WELL AS THE STREETS SECTION SUPERVISOR.

WE ARE GOING TO GIVE TODAY A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE PIPELINE FIRE FOR THE CITY SECTION OF IT.

AS MOST OF YOU WELL KNOW, WE DID HAVE ROUGHLY 26,000 ACRE FIRE OF PIPELINE, LITTLE LESS THAN 2,000 ACRES OF THAT BURNED INTO WATERSHEDS THAT DIRECTLY FEED INTO THE CITY.

THAT WOULD BE THE SCHULTZ CREEK WATERSHED, AS WELL AS WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE CHIMNEY WATERSHED THAT DRAINS BOTH ON DRAIN TO THE RIO TO FLAG.

WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER SOME OF THE FLOOD MODELING THAT WAS DONE TODAY OR DONE RECENTLY BY J.E FULLER HYDROLOGY, WHO WORKED WITH BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY ON FLOOD HYDROLOGY AND FLOOD MODELING.

NOT FOR PIPELINE, BUT ALSO FOR THE TUNNEL FIRE BEFORE THAT MUSEUM FIRE IN 2019, AND THE 2010 SCHULTZ FIRE AS WELL AS MANY OTHER FIRES THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHWEST.

WE HAVE JOE LOVERICH HERE TODAY WHO'LL BE SPEAKING ON THAT.

SOME OF THE FLOOD MODELING IS VERY NEW.

WE'VE HAD SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF IT IN THE LAST WEEK, WEEK AND A HALF.

DEFINITELY BEEN WORKING AT MARATHON SPEED HERE PUTTING SOME VERY LONG HOURS, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR FLOOD RISK IS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND WE WILL TOUCH ON MAJOR TOPICS TODAY.

I'M SURE THERE'LL BE A GOOD DISCUSSION AS WELL AS SOME GOOD QUESTIONS.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JOE IF HE'S READY.

>>HI, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JOE LOVERICH.

I'M A J.E FULLER.

WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO TONIGHT IS TO TAKE YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE STEPS OF HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING OUR ANALYSIS TO DATE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT.

LIKE I HAD SAID, THIS IS VERY NEW MODELING.

WE STARTED THE AFTERNOON WHEN THE FIRE STARTED AND WE'VE BEEN GOING EVER SINCE.

WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT WITH FLOOD MODELING? IT'S DETERMINING THE INCREASED FLOOD RISK DUE TO THE DOWNSTREAM AREAS, DUE TO THE HEAT EFFECTS ON THE SOIL, HOW THE FIRE CHANGE THE PROPERTIES OF THE SOIL THAT CREATES MORE RUNOFF TO THE DOWNSTREAM AREAS.

THE WAY THIS GOES IN A FIRE SITUATION LIKE THIS IS WE HAVE PRELIMINARY FLOOD MODELING RIGHT OFF THE BAT BASED ON FIRE FOOTPRINTS, AND ASSUMPTIONS MADE ABOUT WHAT THE POTENTIAL BURN SEVERITY COULD BE.

BURNED SEVERITY MAPS DON'T COME OUT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AFTER A FIRE STARTS.

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THERE'S A DIVIDE IT SCHULTZ TANK, SCHULTZ CREEK WATERSHED AND THE CHIMNEY WATERSHED.

THEY FEED DOWN TO CHESHIRE MUSEUM DOWN TOWARDS 180.

THAT'S A COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT MODEL FROM THE EAST SIDE.

SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TO DO, WE HAD TO MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS ON BURNS SEVERITY FROM THE GET-GO.

BASED ON THAT, YOU CAN BEGIN TO DO SOME INITIAL MITIGATION AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE THAT FLOOD RISK IS DOWNSTREAM.

THEN WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT AND THIS CAME OUT ON SATURDAY IS WE HAVE THE BURN SEVERITY MAPS PRODUCED BY THE BAER TEAMS, THE BURNED AREA EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAMS WITH THE US FOREST SERVICE.

THIS IS A RAPID ASSESSMENT OF THE SOIL BURN SEVERITY IN THE WATERSHED, WHICH DRIVES THE INCREASED WATER.

BASED ON THAT, WE RERUN OUR MODELS TO PREDICT THE WAY WE THINK A STORM COULD AFFECT THE WATERSHEDS, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

THE MODELS YOU'LL SEE ARE HOT OFF THE PRESS.

THEY'RE VERY NEW.

THERE'S ALWAYS REFINEMENTS BEING DONE IN THEM SINCE THIS IS A VERY FAST-PACED PROCESS AND SO THEY AREN'T FINAL BY ANY MEANS, BUT THEY DO GIVE A PRETTY GOOD PREDICTION OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN GIVEN A CERTAIN STORM IN THE WATERSHED.

NEXT. AM I DRIVING IT?

>> YOU ARE DRIVING IT.

>> TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE THIS LIES IN RELATION TO OTHER THINGS, IS, THIS IS A 3D VIEW OF THE WEST SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN.

YOU CAN SEE THE MUSEUM FIRE IN THE ORANGE POLYGON.

IT FEEDS DOWN TOWARDS THE SUNNYSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU SEE ALL OF THE WATERSHEDS, THE BLUE LINES ARE DELINEATING WATERSHEDS.

THOSE WATERSHEDS IN THE UPPER PART OF THE SCREEN, THOSE ALL FEED OFF TO THE EAST THROUGH TIMBERLINE DONI PARK.

WHAT I'M TALKING TO YOU ABOUT TONIGHT ARE THESE TWO BLUE LINES THAT COME DOWN TOWARDS CHESHIRE, THE ONE IS SCHULTZ CREEK AND ONE IS JIMMY SPRINGS.

WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THAT THESE TWO WATERSHEDS, THE SCHULTZ CREEK WATERSHED WAS A LITTLE BIT IMPACTED BY THE MUSEUM FIRE, NOT SIGNIFICANTLY, BUT THERE IS A LITTLE BIT IN IT, AND THESE ARE INDEPENDENT FROM THE WATERSHEDS THAT WERE BURNT IN THE 19 MUSEUM FIRE.

THERE'S A BREAK THERE.

SOME STATS OF THESE TWO WATERSHEDS, THE CHIMNEY WATERSHED AND THE SCHULTZ CREEK WATERSHED, CHIMNEY HAD ABOUT 34 PERCENT BURNED, SCHULTZ CREEK HAD ABOUT 29 PERCENT BURNED.

THEN THE OTHER PERCENTAGES ARE HOW MUCH OF THE WATERSHED IS EITHER HIGH SEVERITY, MODERATE, LOW, OR VERY LOW, OR NO FIRE.

THE CONCERNING ASPECTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE BURN SEVERITY IS SHOWN IN THE RED AND THE YELLOW IS THE MODERATE AND HIGH BURN SEVERITY.

THOSE ARE THE DRIVERS IN WHAT HAPPENS DOWNSTREAM.

THERE'S SIGNIFICANT AREAS ESPECIALLY THE SCHULTZ CREEK WATERSHED THAT ARE MODERATE OR HIGH.

THIS IS A ZOOMED IN PICTURE OF THE FIRE.

YOU CAN SEE, TO ORIENT YOU, IT'S A LITTLE GRAINY, BUT ABOUT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PICTURE IS WHERE FRIEDLAND PRAIRIE ROAD COMES AND HITS THE WEATHERFORD ROAD IF YOU KNOW THE AREA, AND SCHULTZ TANK IS ON THE VERY RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THAT LITTLE BLOB WHERE SCHULTZ TANK IS.

ALL THIS WATER FLOWS DOWNSTREAM AND WHAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN IS HOW IT'S POTENTIALLY GOING TO IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THESE ARE VERY GENERALLY COMPLACENT WATERSHEDS.

YOU CAN HAVE A BIG STORM ON THEM AND NOT MUCH HAPPENS.

BUT IN A POST FIRE WORLD, YOU HAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WATER THAT COMES DOWN,

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THE CHIMNEY WATERSHED COMES IN, FLOWS DOWN TOWARDS 180 AT THE CULVERT THAT WAS OVER TOPPED AND THE ROAD WAS BLOCKED LAST SUMMER, RIGHT UPSTREAM OF CHESHIRE.

THAT WATER AS IT COMES DOWN, IT CAN SPREAD PRETTY WIDE.

THERE'S SOME HOMES POTENTIALLY IMPACTED THERE.

THAT'S ALL IN THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY LINE IS RIGHT ON HIGHWAY 180 AT THAT POINT.

ONCE THAT WATER COMES DOWN INTO CHESHIRE, IT HITS THE RIO TO FLAG.

WHEN IT HITS THE RIO TO FLAG, THERE'S QUITE A BIT A CONVEYANCE IN THE RIO TO FLAG.

IT'S A REGIONAL DRAINAGE.

THERE'S ALSO A SECONDARY CHANNEL CALLED THE PEEK VIEW CHANNEL, WHICH COMES DOWN PARALLEL TO PEEK VIEW STREETS.

WITHIN THE CITY IN THIS PORTION, IT'S NOT LOOKING LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF FLOOD RISK, THOUGH.

THERE ARE SOME CAUTIONARY NOTES WITH THAT IN THAT THIS WATER WHEN IT COMES OFF, IT'S NOT CLEAR WATER AS WE ALL KNOW.

THE DEBRIS, THE SEDIMENT, ROCKS THEY CAN COME DOWN, CAN QUICKLY CHANGE THE COURSE OF HOW THESE STREAMS ARE FLOWING.

WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WITH THIS IS TRYING TO PREDICT WORST-CASE WHERE THE WATER MAY GO.

THESE MAPS ARE BEING USED BY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO HELP UNDERSTAND.

WE ZOOM OVER TO SCHULTZ CREEK ON THE RIGHT.

SCHULTZ CREEK COMES DOWN, CROSSES AMOUNT ON THE LOOKOUT ROAD, RIGHT PAST THE Y.

AT THAT POINT, WE AREN'T SEEING REALLY ANY PROPERTIES IMPACTED BY IT.

THAT LEADS ON DOWN FURTHER TO ONE OF THE MORE IMPACTED AREAS.

ONE THING TO POINT OUT IS THIS WHOLE MIDDLE PART OF THE MAP IS INTERESTING TOPOGRAPHY BECAUSE YOU HAVE THESE TWO WATERSHEDS THAT SPLIT IN THE MIDDLE PORTION THAT FEEDS DOWN TOWARDS MAGDALENA, TOWARDS SCHULTZ-PASS ROAD.

BASICALLY BETWEEN MAGDALENA AND THE Y ON SCHULTZ-PASS ROAD, DON'T HAVE ANY FIRE EFFECTS.

THE FIRE WAS NOT IN THOSE WATERSHEDS.

THE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT IS THAT WHEN THIS RUNOFF GETS DOWN TO THE RIO TO FLAG, THE RIO TO FLAG IS A REGIONAL WATERCOURSE.

WE AREN'T MODELING THE RAINFALL OVER THE ENTIRE 50 SQUARE MILE WATERSHED FOR THIS TYPE OF MONSOONAL TYPE STORM THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN.

UNCERTAINTY IN THE MODEL INCREASES ONCE YOU HIT THE RIO TO FLAG BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER WATERSHEDS THAT FEED IN FROM THE SOUTH, FROM FORT VALLEY AND HOW STORMS HAVE TRACKED ACROSS THAT BEFORE THEY GET INTO THE WATERSHEDS THAT WE'RE MODELING.

THAT'S A HUGE VARIABLE.

THAT NEEDS TO BE UNDERSTOOD WHEN INTERPRETING FLOOD RISK ALONG THE RIO TO FLAG.

WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS SCHULTZ CREEK AS IT COMES DOWN TOWARDS FORT VALLEY ROAD.

RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THE FIRE STATION.

IF YOU'D ALL KNOW WHERE THAT IS ON FORT VALLEY ROAD, THAT'S WHERE SCHULTZ CREEK COMES DOWN.

IT HAS A VERY SMALL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COULD TAKE IT OVER TO THE RIO.

THAT WATER SPREADS AT THAT POINT.

IT SPREADS OVER TOPS HIGHWAY 180 AND ENDS UP HAVING THE POTENTIAL TO FLOW THROUGH STEVANNA AND INTO THE UPPER END OF COCONINO STATES AS IT'S TRYING TO GET TO THE RIO.

WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE IS, YOU HAVE A LOT OF SHEET FLOW, YOU HAVE A LOT OF SHALLOW FLOW.

THAT DOESN'T HAVE A GREAT CONVEYANCE TO GET TO THE RIO TO FLAG CHANNEL.

AS YOU MOVE ON DOWNSTREAM, TAKE THE FIRST MAP IN THE CENTER AND THEN FURTHER DOWNSTREAM AS THE MAP TO THE RIGHT.

AS YOU GO DOWNSTREAM FROM THIS WATERSHED THAT'S CONTRIBUTING THE RIO TO FLAG HAS ENOUGH CAPACITY IN IT.

BUT LIKE I WAS SAYING, IT'S HARD FOR THAT WATER RUNOFF TO GET TO THE RIO.

THE EASIEST PATH FOR THAT WATER TO TAKE IS DOWN THE STREETS.

UNLESS THERE'S DIVERSIONS TO GET THAT WATER IN THE RIO UPSTREAM,

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ONCE YOU HIT MEAD, AGAIN, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE TO CARRY THAT WATER.

THE INCREASED FLOWS ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE RIO.

THAT'S WHEN YOU MAY HAVE SOME BACKING UP AND HEADING FURTHER DOWN NAVAJO.

NOW, LIKE WHAT I SAID, THE FURTHER DOWN YOU TRACK THIS MODEL, THE MORE THE UNCERTAINTY INCREASES.

BECAUSE HOW THIS WATER FLOWS DOWN IS A LOT DUE TO THE VOLUME OF THE STORM.

IT COULD BE A SHORTER DURATION STORM, IT COULD BE A LONGER.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS FOR A TWO-INCH 45-MINUTE STORM EVENT.

THIS IS THE MODELING THAT WAS USED ON MUSEUM AND THIS IS REALLY BASED ON RAINFALL THAT HAS BEEN MONITORED ENGAGED OVER THE SCHULTZ FIRE FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS TO SHOW THE STORMS THAT WE'VE SEEN CAUSE SIZABLE FLOOD EVENTS.

THIS IS THE DOWNSTREAM END OF WHAT WE'RE MODELING AT THIS POINT.

RIO TO FLAG, LIKE I SAID, IT'S THIS REGIONAL WATERCOURSE.

AS YOU TAKE THIS RISK FURTHER DOWNSTREAM, WE HAVE NOT TRACKED TO THIS ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH THE CITY YET.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE A LOT MORE DISCUSSIONS TO DO ABOUT WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S THE LIMIT OF WHAT I HAVE TO SHOW AT THIS POINT.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR WHAT HAVE YOU?

>> [NOISE] THANK YOU, COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS TIME? WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT WE'LL SAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS UNTIL THE VERY END OF THE PRESENTATION. COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY?

>> COULD YOU NAME SOME OF THE STREETS THAT ARE ON THIS MAP BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY READ THEM FROM HERE.

IT'S MY OLD EYES.

>> I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

YOU SEE THE RIO TO FLAG, IT'S GOT THE PURPLE.

NAVAJO DRIVE IS RIGHT ADJACENT TO IT.

ON THE EAST SIDE, THEN THERE'S TALKINGTON, THIS THE MAIN NORTH-SOUTH DRIVE.

MEAD IS THE EAST-WEST ROAD THAT IS DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM THIRD OF THE SCREEN.

>> IF YOU COULD USE A POINTER.

[OVERLAPPING].

>> MEAD IS RIGHT HERE. TALKINGTON IS RIGHT HERE.

LANTERN DOWN TO THE DITCH POOL IS RIGHT HERE.

CRESCENT IS OVER HERE.

>> WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE STREET AT THE BOTTOM THAT GOES EAST-WEST?

>> THAT'S MEAD RIGHT HERE.

>> THE ONE JUST THE WALK SOUTH OF THAT IS WHAT?

>> THIS IS MURRAY. THAT'S WHERE THIS IMAGE STARTS.

MURRAY TRANSITIONS INTO NAVAJO AS THAT GOES DOWN TOWARDS BEAL AND WHITING HERE.

KUTCH IS RIGHT HERE.

>> ON THE RIGHT SIDE, IS THAT NAVAJO THAT'S GOING EAST- WEST?

>> NO. BEAL IS GOING EAST-WEST, RIGHT HERE.

>> BEAL. THEN, I THINK THAT TURNS INTO NAVAJO, ISN'T IT?

>> NAVAJO IS GOING NORTH AND SOUTH.

>> BUT THERE'S TWO NAVAJOS.

ONE IS NORTH-SOUTH AND ONE GOES EAST-WEST?

>> YEAH. THAT'S FOR THE SOUTH.

FORT VALLEY ROAD IS RIGHT HERE.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

>> FORT VALLEY IS OVER HERE.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, JOE. MOVING A LITTLE BIT DOWNSTREAM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE GET FAIRLY OFTEN IS, HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THE RIO DE FLAG AS WE MOVE DOWNSTREAM? AS JOE MENTIONED, THIS IS A REGIONAL WAR, OF COURSE, IT HAS OVER 57 SQUARE MILES OF DRAINAGE AREA, SO THE FURTHER WE MOVE AWAY FROM THAT FIRE SCAR, THE MORE UNCERTAINTY WE HAVE AS WE MODEL IT OUT.

BECAUSE NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REGIONAL STORM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT STORMS THAN WE USUALLY SEE IN THESE MONSOON MICROBURSTS.

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TO GIVE SOME IDEA, ROUGHLY THE AMOUNT OF BURN THAT WE HAVE IN THE RIO DE FLAG WATERSHED IS WELL LESS THAN 10 PERCENT, I'D SAY IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND THE FIVE PERCENT RANGE.

AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE DOWN THROUGH THE CITY, WE HAVE LESS AND LESS IMPACT OF THE FLOWS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF SCHULTZ CREEK OR THE CHIMNEY SPRINGS WATERSHED.

WE'VE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS AMONG THE ENGINEERS, THE HYDROLOGISTS, PLANNERS, AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE, BUT AT LEAST AT THE PRELIMINARY LEVEL, WE'RE A LITTLE UNCERTAIN OF HOW TO MODEL THAT FLOOD RISK THROUGH DOWNTOWN AND SOUTHSIDE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE ASSUMPTIONS AS WE MOVE DOWN.

THAT TWO-INCH RAIN EVENT AND 45 MINUTES THAT NO LONGER REALLY HOLDS TRUE, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN REALLY USE FOR A MORE REGIONAL-LEVEL FLOOD EVENT.

FOR EXAMPLE, ON SUNDAY, THERE WAS SOME LOCALIZED FLOODING IN THE DOWNTOWN SOUTHSIDE AREA.

THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH PIPELINE FIRE, HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MUSEUM FIRE, THAT WAS A TWO-INCH RAIN EVENT IN ABOUT HALF AN HOUR OBSERVATORY MESA.

AS A LARGE MICROBURST ON A COMPLETELY UNBURNED AREA AND WE'VE GOT LOCALIZED FLOODING, SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE GO FURTHER DOWNSTREAM.

AT THE MOMENT WHAT THE CITY IS RECOMMENDING, IS THAT ANYBODY THAT IS WITHIN THE 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN WHICH THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN THAT WAS MAPPED IN 2010 FOR THE MAJORITY PART, WHICH IS IN BLUE ON THIS MAP, OR IF YOU'RE IN THE FEMA OF 500-YEAR FLOODPLAIN, WHICH IS MARKED IN ORANGE, WE HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET FLOOD INSURANCE JUST AS A BACKUP.

WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS MITIGATION.

WHAT ARE WE DOING IN TERMS OF SHORT-TERM MITIGATION? RIGHT NOW, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED QUITE A BIT ON THAT AREA ON YOUR HIGHWAY 180.

AS JOE MENTIONED, SCHULTZ CREEK MOSTLY STAYS OR THE FLOW MOSTLY STAYS THAN SCHULTZ CREEK, UNTIL YOU GET DOWN TO THAT CULVERT NEAR FIRE STATION NUMBER 5.

THEN WE HAVE THIS BACKWATER EFFECT WHERE THE CULVERT QUICKLY BECOMES OVERWHELMED AND WE START HAVING THAT SHEET FLOW THAT JOE MENTIONED THAT DOES GO THROUGH COCONUT IN THE UNITED STATES, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT EMERGENCY MITIGATION OPTIONS IN THIS AREA OF THE MAP THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ITERATIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLEXITY TO IT BASED ON PRIVATE LANDOWNERS, ALSO THE MITIGATION TYPES AND THE MODEL AS IT CHANGES.

THE MODEL YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, AS JOE MENTIONED, IS IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT FRESH OFF THE PRESS, WE'VE ONLY HAD THIS FOR A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

IT HAS CHANGED AS WE GET BETTER DATA, IT HAS AS THE MODEL GETS MORE REFINED, SO WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT JUST SO YOU KNOW, OUR HOPE IS THAT WE CAN DO SOME SHORT-TERM EMERGENCY MITIGATION MEASURES IN THIS AREA TO HOPEFULLY, DRASTICALLY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SHEET FLOW THAT WE SEE THROUGH COCONINO ESTATES, SO THAT WE CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF MITIGATION THAT'S NEEDED THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

WITH THAT, I MENTIONED SOME OF THE MITIGATION THAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT.

POTENTIALLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT BARRIER, COULD BE A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS THAT COULD WORK, WE ARE REACHING OUT TO BOTH OUR COUNTY PARTNERS AS WELL AS STATE AND FEDERAL, AND THAT NATIONWIDE PRIVATE FOLKS TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES AND MITIGATION STRATEGIES FOR SOMETHING THIS COMPLEX.

WITH THAT, WE MOVE TO THE SANDBAG SECTION.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE APPRECIATE THE TIME HERE TODAY.

I GET HIT ON SOME REALLY GOOD PIECES HERE AND JOE HIT ON, PROBABLY THE BETTER SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE.

A BIG PIECE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, YES, IS THE POTENTIAL FOR THE SHORT-TERM MITIGATIONS AND BARRIER WAS MENTIONED.

WHILE THAT WOULD BE IDEAL, IT'S HARD TO COME BY, SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE'VE GOT SOME AVENUES, AND HONESTLY, WE WERE ABLE TO SHIFT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE HAD IN BACKSTOP OUT TO 180, AND WE'RE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A DOT, AND HONESTLY, MANY OF THE DIFFERENT LANDOWNERS IN THAT AREA TO TRY AND GET MITIGATION IN PLACE.

AGAIN, THE GOAL HERE IS TO STREAMLINE THAT WATER INTO THE RIO DE FLAG WITHOUT ALLOWING IT TO GET THROUGH THE COMMUNITY FIRST, SO MANY ITEMS IN PLAY THERE.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SANDBAG RECOMMENDATIONS, ONE OF THE PIECES THAT WE WANT TO NOTE IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT AS THESE MODELING MAPS COME OUT, WE'LL GET THEM POSTED ONTO THE CITY'S WEBSITE ONCE WE HAVE A REFINED VERSION, AND WE RECOMMEND THAT ANYBODY WHO SEES THEIR HOME IN POTENTIALLY AN IMPACTED AREA PROTECTS THE HOME.

THE GOAL BEHIND THAT IS PROTECTING YOUR DOORWAYS, WINDOWS, VENTS, WHATEVER YOU MIGHT HAVE OR WATER COULD GET UNDER THE HOME, THAT'S THE BIGGEST IMPACT HERE.

AGAIN, WE KEEP USING THE TERM SHEET FLOW.

THIS IS A MUCH DIFFERENT EVENT THAN WHAT WE'VE SEEN EVEN IN SOME OF THE OTHER LOCAL EVENTS WHERE WE HAVE THAT HIGHER VELOCITY WATER,

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DOORWAYS, WINDOWS IF YOU HAVE BASEMENTS AND THE ACCESS INTO THAT BASEMENT, SANDBAG MITIGATIONS ARE ALWAYS RECOMMENDED FOR THAT AND THAT IS THE PIECE THAT WILL BE PUSHING OUT AND WORKING THROUGH TO TRY AND SUPPORT THAT.

WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS WHO HAVE BEEN OUT AND TALKED WITH SEVERAL OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE IN A HIGHER IMPACT AREA AND THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

IF YOU DO MEET WITH ONE OF OUR EITHER CONTRACTED ENGINEERS, AND ONE OF OUR CITY STAFF, THEY WILL MAKE SURE THEY GET YOU ALL THE DATA YOU NEED TO MAKE THE MOST INFORMED DECISION ON BEHALF OF YOUR OWN PROPERTY.

MANY OF THE PLACES WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT BARRIERS, THAT'D BE SOMETHING THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS WHERE WE ACTUALLY COME IN AND WE'LL HAVE CONTRACTORS PLACE THE EMERGENCY MITIGATIONS FOR THOSE RESIDENTS IF NEEDED IN THOSE AREAS, OTHER THAN THAT, IT WILL BE SIMPLY ASKING RESIDENTS TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER.

MUCH LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH MUSEUM, IS GETTING PEOPLE OUT THERE TO HELP BUILD SANDBAGS FOR EACH OTHER, BUILD SANDBAGS FOR YOUR HOME AND TRY AND GET THEM OUT THERE, AND WE'LL GET INTO THE LOCATIONS OF SOME SANDBAGS SELF-FILL SITES.

WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED FOR WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE PIPELINE WEST.

THE SANDBAG RECOMMENDATIONS, AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE BOTTOM THERE DOWNTOWN AREN'T QUITE AVAILABLE YET.

HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO TELL PEOPLE RIGHT NOW IF YOU WERE OUT SUNDAY AND YOU RECEIVED WATER AND YOU LIVE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, YOU'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO CONSIDER SANDBAGS AT THIS POINT.

I THINK THAT'S A FAIR ASSUMPTION AT THIS POINT, HOWEVER, WE CAN'T CONFIRM MOST OF THAT, BUT WE KNOW FOR MANY OF US WHO HAVE LIVED HERE A LONG TIME WHERE THAT WATER FLOWS TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

ONE OF THOSE IS JUST, YOU MIGHT SEE A HIGHER FREQUENCY OF THAT NOW, PROTECT YOUR HOME AND THAT'S THE GOAL MOVING FORWARD.

LET'S MOVE ON HERE.

THESE ARE THE TWO SELF-FILL SANDBAG LOCATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED.

THEY WERE ESTABLISHED AS OF FRIDAY LAST WEEK, A HUGE THANK YOU TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM WHO WENT OUT AND GOT THIS DONE IN A VERY RAPID TIME FRAME.

THOUGH A PICTURE ON YOUR LEFT IS AT THE VERY NORTH END OF AZTEC, OVER BY THE SPORTS COMPLEX, THE SOFTBALL FIELDS FOR ANY OF THE LOCALS AROUND HERE, SO THIS WOULD BE THE BACK WAY INTO THERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE FIELDS.

THE OTHER LOCATION IS GOING TO BE OUT OFF OF SCHULTZ PASS ROAD AND MOUNTAIN BELT AND LOOKOUT ROAD, THAT'S WHY MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE HAVE RECREATED IN THAT AREA.

YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE A TON OF SENDERS OUT THERE, EMPTY SANDBAGS, CELL FIELD STATIONS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED, THERE SHOULD BE A SHOVELS AT EACH SITE AND THOSE ARE OPEN FOR ANYBODY WHO FEELS AS IF THEY NEED SANDBAGS, AND AS THESE MODELS COME OUT AND AS PEOPLE GO THROUGH THE SLIDES AND THE PACKETS FROM TODAY, IF YOU SEE YOUR HOME IDENTIFIED IN THEIR, THE RECOMMENDATION IS PROTECTION OF THE HOME, AND THESE ARE THE LOCATIONS THAT WE CAN GET THOSE RESOURCES OUT TO THE RESIDENTS.

EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS, MUCH WE'VE DONE WITH EVERY INCIDENT, EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS WILL BE A VITAL PIECE OF THIS.

HAVING SAID THAT, THEY ONLY WORK IF YOU REGISTER FOR THEM.

IPAWS ALERTS ARE VERY SENSITIVE ALERT, SO IPAWS IS THE INTEGRATED PUBLIC ALERT WARNING SYSTEM.

IT IS AN OPTION THAT IS MORE LIKE THE AMBER ALERTS THAT PEOPLE GET.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO OPT INTO THAT.

IT CAN BE DRIVEN THROUGH THE CELL PHONE TOWERS THAT YOU'RE CLOSEST TO AND YOU WILL GET THAT ALERT WHETHER YOU'VE OPT-IN OR NOT.

HOWEVER, THAT IS A FEMALE-MANAGED SYSTEM OR THE COUNTY HAS AUTHORIZATION TO USE.

THE BEST WAY TO GET NOTIFICATIONS IS TO REGISTER FOR THE SYSTEM.

IF YOU LIVE ANYWHERE WITHIN THE CHESHIRE COMMUNITIES, COCONINO ESTATES, COYOTE SPRINGS, AND ANASAZI RIDGE ANYWHERE ALONG THAT NORTHERN PIECE OF 180, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO JUST REGISTER FOR THE NOTIFICATIONS IF NOTHING ELSE, TO HAVE THE INFORMATION, TO KNOW IF YOU CAN DRIVE INTO TOWN THAT DAY IF 180 IS NOT IMPACTED SO WE'RE NOT CAUSING ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND ADOC CREWS WILL BE OUT THERE WORKING.

ALL OF THE ALERT SYSTEM, LIKE YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE COUNTY IS A VERY CONFIDENTIAL SYSTEM.

YOU HAVE ALL THE DATA THAT GOES IN THERE, STAYS IN THAT SYSTEM.

YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT SO IT'S A VERY GOOD SYSTEM TO GET GOOD INFORMATION FROM AND HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT POTENTIAL IMPACTS MIGHT COME TO YOUR AREA AND THIS SYSTEM IS RECOMMENDED FOR ANYBODY.

MOST OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE ARE THE ALERTS AND THE MESSAGING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT IS BASICALLY A SHELTER IN PLACE.

WE DON'T SEE WATER HERE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE NEED FOR MASSIVE EVACUATIONS THAT IS USUALLY THE FIRST THING WE DON'T WANT TO DO WHEN A FLOOD EVENT IS PUT PEOPLE OUT IN THE WATERS.

THE GOAL IS TO PROTECT YOUR HOMES, MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SAFE ENOUGH TO BUILD A SHELTER IN PLACE.

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IF WE DO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE EVACUATIONS, IT'S A WHOLE ANOTHER PROCESS AND THAT IS NOT A PIECE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AT THIS POINT SO THE EXPECTATION IS IF WE HAVE WATER, PLEASE STAY HOME.

IF YOU LIVE IN CHESHIRE AND YOU ARE NOT AFFECTED BY THE WATER AND WE SEE WATER ON 180, PLEASE STAY HOME.

DON'T ADD TO THE BURDEN OF TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD.

THESE EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS WILL BE VITAL IN NOTIFYING EVERYBODY IN A TIMELY FASHION OF WHAT IMPACTS WE MAY OR MAY NOT SEE MOVING FORWARD.

WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PIECE OF IT.

I'M GOING TO HAND THIS BACK OVER TO ED TO TALK ABOUT THE RAIN GAUGES AND NOTIFICATIONS.

THANK YOU, SAM. I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH.

SAM'S LAST SLIDE.

I'M REALLY THAT, THE COCONINO EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM IS PREMIER.

THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD BE HITTING.

YOU MAY ALSO BE SEEING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALERTS.

THOSE ARE TEND TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE REGIONAL IN NATURE.

ALSO VERY GOOD TO PAY ATTENTION TO.

THIS SLIDE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT I CALL IT YOUR DO-IT-YOURSELF IF YOU WILL.

I DON'T RECOMMEND IT AS A DO-IT-YOURSELF FOR EMERGENCY ALERTS.

IT'S NOT WORTH MEANT FOR THIS IS IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT REAL-TIME RAIN OR STREAM GAUGE DATA, WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.

YOU CAN GO TO THAT WEBSITE ON THE LEFT.

ALSO, IF YOU WANNA GET EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS, YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR WHATEVER GAUGES YOU WANT, WHETHER IT'S IN THE POST-FIRE BURN AREA OR WHETHER IT'S SOMEWHERE ELSE IN ANOTHER SECTION OF THE COUNTY OR CITY ON THAT RIGHT.

NOW, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EMAIL NOTIFICATION.

IF YOU GET ONE INCH OF RAIN AND WITHIN ONE HOUR.

AGAIN, THESE DO NOT REPLACE OR IN ANY WAY SUPPLEMENT WHAT THOSE EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS ARE.

THIS IS MORE IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING FOR INFORMATION FOR YOURSELF AT THAT POINT.

WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE ON TO SARAH.

THANKS, ED, AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SARAH LANGLEY AGAIN, PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIRECTOR.

I JUST WANTED TO HIT ON THE FLOOD INSURANCE MESSAGE A BIT MORE.

AS ED MENTIONED, WE ARE RECOMMENDING FLOOD INSURANCE FOR ANYONE WHO'S CURRENTLY IN A FEMA FLOOD PLAIN IN THE IMPACTED WATERSHEDS.

WE DO HAVE A MAILER GOING OUT TO THOSE PROPERTIES.

IT SHOULD BE DELIVERED AROUND THE END OF THIS WEEK, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DO REACH EVERYONE WITH THAT MESSAGE.

RESIDENTS CAN VISIT FEMA.GOV/FLOOD-INSURANCE FOR MORE INFORMATION YOU CAN ALSO TALK TO WHOEVER SELLS YOU YOUR HOME INSURANCE OR YOUR CAR INSURANCE, RENTER'S INSURANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE MAIN MESSAGE IS, FLOOD INSURANCE IS GENERALLY SEPARATE FROM YOUR EXISTING POLICY.

WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 30-DAY WAITING PERIOD FOR FLOOD INSURANCE AND THE POTENTIAL OF WAIVING THAT DUE TO A WILDFIRE.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT WAIVER IS A FEMA DECISION.

THAT'S THE CITY IS NOT INVOLVED IN THAT.

THE COUNTY IS NOT INVOLVED IN THAT.

THAT'S A FEMA DECISION AND IT'S MADE AT THE TIME OF A CLAIM SO IT IS A VENT DEPENDENT.

DURING A 30-DAY WAITING PERIOD, YOUR PROPERTY IS FLOODED DUE TO A RANDOM MONSOON STORM, THAT'S NOT GOING TO QUALIFY FOR A WAIVER.

HOWEVER, IF THE FLOODING THAT IMPACTED YOUR PROPERTY IS DUE TO OR RELATED TO POST-WILDFIRE CONDITIONS ON FEDERAL LANDS, AND THE POLICY HAS BEEN PURCHASED WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE WILDFIRE CONTAINMENT DATE, YOU MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE WAIVER OF 30 DAYS.

JUST TO NOTE, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT 90 PERCENT CONTAINMENT WITH A PIPELINE FIRE, SO WE DON'T YET HAVE A CONTAINMENT DATE, SO I'M STILL A GREAT TIME TO PURCHASE FLOOD INSURANCE BUT THAT IS A FEMA DECISION AND IF RESIDENTS HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT WAIVER, THEY CAN ASK THEIR INSURANCE AGENTS TO REACH OUT TO FEMA FOR MORE INFORMATION.

NEXT SLIDE SO JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON COMMUNICATIONS RELATED TO AS WE'RE CALLING PIPELINE FIRE WEST.

WE'VE STOOD UP A PRELIMINARY WEBSITE, FLAGSTAFF.AZ.GOVPIPELINEWEST.

YOU CAN VISIT THAT, ON THAT WEBSITE WE'VE SET UP A FORM SO YOU CAN ENTER YOUR NAME AND YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND WE WILL ADD YOU TO OUR LIST OF RESIDENTS SO THAT WE CAN SEND OUT EMAIL UPDATES TO YOU.

THOSE AREN'T EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS THERE MORE.

WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE'RE HAVING A COUNCIL UPDATE, WILL LET YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE REVISED FLOOD MAPS, WILL LET YOU KNOW ABOUT SANDBAGS, THINGS LIKE THAT SO IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT AND YOU'RE CURIOUS TO GET UPDATES, PLEASE GO TO THAT WEBSITE AND SIGN UP TO GET ON OUR LIST AND THEN LASTLY, IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION OR MAYBE YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE MEDIA, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SHOOT ME AN EMAIL RIGHT THERE ON SCREEN, SARAH.LANGLEY@FLAGSTAFFAZ.GOV.

WE'LL LIKELY BE PUTTING TOGETHER A FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS DOCUMENT, AND WE'LL DISTRIBUTE THAT WIDELY SO WE CAN MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED.

THAT'S IT FROM ME. WE DON'T HAVE A LAST SLIDE,

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THANK YOU, SARAH. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND WE DO HAVE OKSANA DREXLER? SHE MAY HAVE STEPPED OUT OR LEFT MAYOR.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE? NO MAYOR, IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT WE DO.

WELL, I'LL HOLD ONTO THIS CARD IF YOU SEE HERE THEN WE CAN HAVE JUMP IN.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE'LL SEE IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PRESENTATION.

WELL, WITH THAT, WE CAN JUST MOVE RIGHT ALONG HERE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE. THIS IS AGENDA ITEM 11,

[11. Fiber Update and Smart Cities Discussion To provide an update on our Fiber project rollout and get some input regarding alternative ideas for bringing fiber to our community. Additionally, staff would like Council input on Smart City initiatives for future planning.]

WELL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M CJ PERRY, YOUR IT DIRECTOR.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN REALLY QUICK.

WELL, YOU CAN SEE THAT. APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME PRESENT FROM MY OFFICE.

I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF INTERACTIVE DEMOS AS PART OF THIS, AND THE TECHNOLOGY IN MY OFFICE IT'S JUST A LITTLE EASIER TO WORK WITH TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

TODAY I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A FIBER UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR FIBER PROJECTS IN GENERAL.

AS WELL AS GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION REGARDING SOME SMART CITY INITIATIVES AND GET SOME COUNSEL THOUGHTS AND IDEAS AND DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE FIBER UPDATE.

AWESOME SLIDE HERE, WE HAVE DESIGNATED ABOUT $3 MILLION, A LITTLE OVER $3 MILLION TOWARDS OUR FIBER PROJECTS.

WE ALSO HAVE GRANT CAPACITY OF OVER $16 MILLION.

THIS IS REALLY EXCITING, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING SOME PROJECTS STARTED.

I'VE GOT AN UPDATE ON THAT IN A FUTURE SLIDE.

BUT THE ONE THING I DID WANT TO MENTION IS UNFORTUNATELY WITH RISING CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THIS MONEY DOESN'T GO QUITE AS FAR AS IT USED TO.

WE'RE STILL AIMING TO MAXIMIZE OUR INVESTMENT, BUT I DO YOU HAVE TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD ON THE REALITY OF INFLATION ON OUR ABILITY TO CONSTRUCT SOME OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT WE DO HAVE A DECENT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO WORK WITH TO REALLY GOOD SOME OF THESE PROJECTS UP AND MOVING.

I ALSO WANTED TO JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN REGARDS TO FIBER.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'RE TRYING TO MEET OUR INTERNAL NEEDS.

WE NEED TO CONNECT OUR FACILITIES WITH FIBER, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOBS APPROPRIATELY.

WE HAVE SOME SMART CITY INITIATIVES WHICH I'M GOING TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT THAT ALL RELY ON FIBER AND GOOD CONNECTIVITY.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALWAYS WORK TO MEET OUR COMMUNITY PARTNER NEEDS, COCONINO COUNTY, NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY, FUSD.

WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

I MEET WITH THESE FOLKS QUARTERLY TO TALK ABOUT JUST BROADBAND ISSUES.

WE HAVE A LOT OF COORDINATION BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND WHAT SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

ADDITIONALLY, WE WANT TO MEET THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR USING THIS INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP BRING ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR HOMES AND BUSINESSES.

REDUCE SOME OF THE COSTS OF FIBER BUILDUPS FOR THE INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, WE'RE NOT HERE TO NECESSARILY COMPETE DIRECTLY WITH THE INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS.

OUR CURRENT STRATEGY IS TO BUILD SOME OF THE CONDUIT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE CAN ALLOW OTHER ISPS TO COME IN AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'RE NOT PROVIDING FIBER DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE'S HOMES, OR BUSINESSES WITH OUR CURRENT STRATEGY.

I ALSO WANT TO DEFINE SOME OF OUR TOOLS AND PROVIDE UPDATES AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE UTILIZING SOME OF THESE TOOLS.

AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE GOT ABOUT $3 MILLION OF DIRECT FUNDING FOR THIS.

I WANTED TO PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE ON SOME OF OUR ACTIVE PROJECTS.

SOME OF THIS IS SO RECENT THAT I WAS DOING SIDEWALKS AND COORDINATING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS AS RECENTLY AS THIS MORNING.

WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING TOWARDS A PROJECT TO CONNECT CITY HALL DOWN TO THE VISITOR CENTER.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOWN TO CONNECT TO OUR FIBER ON BUTLER, AS WELL AS INTERCONNECT US WITH ANY USE FIBER NETWORK.

THIS PROJECT GOT PUT ON HOLD WHEN SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST INCREASED TO THE POINT WHERE THEY EXCEEDED OUR BUDGETED AMOUNT, BUT WE'RE NOW WORKING ON GETTING THIS PROJECT BACK ON TRACK AND GETTING IT MOVING FORWARD.

SOME OTHER TOOLS WE HAVE ARE OUR GRANTS.

GRANTS ARE A WAY THAT WE CAN MAXIMIZE OUR INVESTMENT.

AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE ABOUT $16 MILLION WORTH OF GRANT CAPACITY AND

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CAPITAL PROJECT COORDINATION WE TRY TO USE CAPITAL PROJECTS AS A WAY TO GET FIBER INFRASTRUCTURE AT A LOWER COST.

WE ALREADY HAVE A HOLE OPEN IT'S MUCH CHEAPER TO SIMPLY ADD CONDUIT TO THAT PROJECT.

THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IT DOES ALSO INCREASE THE COST OF THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS.

GENERALLY, IT'S STILL WORTH IT, BUT WE OFTEN HAVE TO HAVE INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ON HOW IMPORTANT CONDUIT IS AS PART OF A PARTICULAR PROJECT DUE TO THE INCREASED COST.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT BROADBAND MASTER PLAN TO HELP WITH SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND DECIDE WHICH CAPITAL PROJECTS MAKE SENSE TO ADD THE INCREASED COSTS.

THE BROADBAND MASTER PLAN YOU CAN FIND @BROADBAND.FLAGSTAFF.AZ.GOV.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME GREAT EXAMPLES OF WHERE THIS WAS SUCCESSFUL.

THE FOURTH STREET BRIDGE REPLACEMENT, WE GOT CONDUIT AS PART OF THAT.

SOME OF THE BUTLER WIDENING PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING UP WHERE WE HAVE CONDUIT AND SOME OF THOSE DESIGNS, THERE'S SOME WATER SERVICES PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING UP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW CONDUIT CAN BE A PART OF THOSE PROJECTS AS WELL.

IT'S A GREAT WAY TO HELP BUILD THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AT A LOWER COST.

OTHER TOOLS WE HAVE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY, WE HAVE PERMITTING PROCESS.

WE HAVE WAYS TO INCENTIVE ISPS TO SERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE HAVE EXISTING CITY INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE EXISTING CONDUIT, EVEN THINGS LIKE ABANDON WATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND ABANDON PIPES THAT WE CAN UTILIZE IF THEY'RE USEFUL TO PUT CONDUIT IN OR FIBER IN AS PART OF THOSE.

AND AS PART OF SOME OF THAT EXISTING CITY INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET REVENUES BACK AS FAR AS LEASING IT.

JUST A REMINDER OF SOME OF THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE.

OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS, OR SO WE'VE LEARNED SOME LESSONS.

I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH A LOT OF ISPS WHO HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN FLAGSTAFF, WE'RE OPEN TO TALKING WITH ANYONE.

WE WANT MORE COMPETITION, MORE BROADBAND, MORE FIBER THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'VE ALSO BEEN LOOKING AT APPLYING FOR GRANTS.

WE'VE ALL HEARD ABOUT SOME OF THE THE MAJOR FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH AND BROADBAND'S A BIG PIECE OF SOME OF THOSE.

RECENTLY, THE ARIZONA COMMERCE AUTHORITY HAD A $10 MILLION GRANT THAT WE WERE VERY INTERESTED IN APPLYING FOR.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAD A STIPULATION THAT IT REQUIRED A PARTNERSHIP WITH AN ACTIVE ISP.

WE COULD NOT APPLY FOR THAT GRANT BY OURSELVES.

WE HAD TO PARTNER WITH AN ISP FOR THAT.

LUCKILY, THERE WAS AN ISP THAT REACHED OUT TO US AND SAID THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN APPLYING FOR THAT GRANT AND ASKED US ABOUT A PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY.

WE DO HAVE SOME RULES THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO PROCURE A PARTNERSHIP LIKE THAT.

BUT WE EXPRESS TO THEM THAT SHOULD THEY GET THE GRANT, WE'D BE INTERESTED IN HAVING FURTHER CONVERSATIONS AS PART OF THAT AND WE WILL BE VERY OPEN TO THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

WE STILL HAVE NOT HEARD BACK ON THAT ON WHETHER THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THAT GRANT YET.

I WAS TOLD WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HEAR BACK BY THE MIDDLE OF JUNE AND WE STILL HAVE NOT HEARD BACK.

WE'RE STARTING TO PUSH ON PEOPLE TO GIVE US SOME UPDATES ON THAT, BUT I HOPEFULLY WE'LL HEAR BACK SOON IN REGARDS TO THAT.

SOME OF THE FEDERAL GRANTS REGARDING INFRASTRUCTURE, A LOT OF THEM HAVE SIMILAR REQUIREMENTS.

A LOT OF THEM HAVE STIPULATIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF SERVICE TO X NUMBER OF HOMES IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR SOME OF THESE FEDERAL GRANTS.

AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED AS PART OF OUR STRATEGY, WE'RE NOT HERE TO COMPETE WITH THE ISPS IN PROVIDING THAT SERVICE DIRECTLY TO THE HOME.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DOES PUT SOME LIMITS AS TO HOW WE CAN APPLY FOR SOME OF THOSE GRANTS.

NOW THERE ARE SOME GRANTS OUT THERE THAT WE QUALIFY FOR DIRECTLY, BUT THEY'RE OFTEN SMALLER, SOME OF THEM HAVE CAVEATS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'RE OPEN AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, BUT SOME OF THE BIGGER GRANTS THAT WE WERE HOPING FOR DEFINITELY HAVE SOME STIPULATIONS ON THEM.

IN SOME CASES WE JUST WON'T QUALIFY FOR APPLYING FOR THEM.

NOW, WE STARTED TO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER.

I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH A LOT OF STAFF INTERNALLY ON HOW CAN WE STILL BE SUCCESSFUL? WE STILL WANT TO PROVIDE BROADBAND FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF JUST THOUGHTS AND IDEAS AND IN POTENTIAL PIVOTS.

THE FIRST SLIDE JUST STATE, WE CAN CONTINUE AS IS, WE CAN JUST CONTINUE EXACTLY WITH HOW WE'RE GOING.

WE CAN CONTINUE TO USE CITY RESOURCES TO BUILD OUT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.

STILL USE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND WE WILL BUILD OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY BUT IT'S MORE ON THE LONG GAME.

WE'RE GOING TO STILL LOOK FOR WHAT GRANTS ARE OUT THERE, BUT WILL MISS SOME OF THE BIGGER GRANTS THAT HAVE SOME OF THESE STIPULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

IT'S STILL A GOOD LONG-TERM PLAN.

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BUT WE ALSO HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT, WELL, WHAT IF WE PIVOTED? THIS IS WHERE I WANT TO GET JUST COUNCIL THOUGHTS ON THIS.

JUST TO SEE WHERE YOU ARE ON THIS STRATEGY AND SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN US TALKING ABOUT AND PURSUING.

THAT IS GOING THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO ACTUALLY FIND AN ISP WHO IS AN OFFICIAL PARTNER OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

TO WORK WITH THEM, UTILIZING SOME OF OUR FUNDS AS MAYBE INCENTIVE TO BRING THEM INTO FLAGSTAFF.

I'VE HAD A LOT OF COMPANIES CAN COME IN AND THEY LOOK AT THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION IN FLAGSTAFF, WE HAVE A LOT OF ROCK AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS GO UP.

MAYBE IF WE CAN PROVIDE SOME PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY, UTILIZING SOME OF THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE TO ENTICE THEM TO COME TO FLAGSTAFF.

BUT ALSO AS SOME OF THAT PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM TO COME TO FLAGSTAFF.

WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE SOME INCENTIVES, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF WITH FIBER ON ALL OF THOSE ROUTES.

THERE ARE SOME PROS HERE THAT A LOT OF THE COMPANIES THAT I'VE TALKED TO, THEY HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT FORWARD A LOT OF THE CAPITAL COSTS IN ORDER TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

IT ALSO GIVES US THAT PARTNER, IF WE WANT TO APPLY FOR SOME OF THESE BIGGER GRANTS, WE JUST HAVE THAT PARTNER ALREADY IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN QUALIFY FOR THOSE GRANTS.

WE'RE PROMOTING EACH OTHER.

THEY'RE APPLYING FOR THE GRANT BASED OFF OF BEING AN ISP AND WE'RE PROVIDING THE PARTNERSHIP, THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND ALL OF THAT.

THE DOWNSIDES TO IT IS, THEY'RE A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT IS LOOKING TO BUILD FIBER AND FLAGSTAFF.

WE'RE GIVEN UP ON SOME OF THOSE FUTURE REVENUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE FIBER PROVIDERS IS TAKING THE LEAD ON THAT.

BUT IT IS A WAY WHERE WE COULD GET SOME CITY OWNED FIBER AS PART OF THAT PARTNERSHIP PROCESS.

SIMILARLY, THE GRANT FUNDS WILL GO TO THE ISP TO HELP THEM BUILD RATHER THAN OURS.

SO IT'S A THING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT INTERNALLY.

THIS IS REALLY JUST A HIGH LEVEL.

IS COUNCIL OPEN TO THIS DISCUSSION? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN US PIVOTING ON AND USING SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES FOR THAT OR WOULD YOU LIKE US TO STICK WITH THE CURRENT PATH? AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT IF WE GO OUT FOR SOME PUBLIC PROCUREMENT AND WE DON'T FIND A PARTNER, THERE ISN'T A PARTNER THAT'S REALLY INTERESTED IN AND SOMEHOW GIVING THE CITY FIBER ALONG ALL THESE ROUTES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE CAN ALWAYS FALL BACK TO JUST CONTINUING HOW WE'RE DOING IT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT OPEN CONVERSATION WITH A COUNCIL ABOUT THAT GIVEN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN LEARNING REGARDING THESE GRANTS GOING FORWARD.

SO DEPOSIT HERE BEFORE WE GO INTO THE SMART CITIES DISCUSSION AND OPEN UP THIS TOPIC AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR BACK FROM COUNCIL ON WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.

>> THANK YOU CJ. COUNCIL, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS?

>> THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

IF WE GO WITH OPTION 2, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE REVENUES LOOK LIKE THAT WE WOULD BE GIVING UP?

>> I DON'T HAVE THOSE EXACT NUMBERS RIGHT NOW, I COULD PROBABLY PROVIDE SOME FOLLOW-UP.

WHEN I'VE LOOKED INTO WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE GETTING FROM A REVENUE PERSPECTIVE FROM LEASING OUT THERE CONDUIT.

I'LL SAY IT'S REALLY ALL OVER THE BOARD.

ON THIS ONE, I HAVE NOT FOUND CONSISTENCY.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN A LEASING OUT CONDUIT TO COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WHICH A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS DO IT AT A REDUCED RATE VERSUS ISPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE OTHER THING IS, A LOT OF IT'S A TIMING ISSUE.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE TODAY TO REALLY LEASE AND SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE US 5-10 YEARS TO EVEN GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN START TO BUILD THOSE REVENUES, AT LEAST AT THE CURRENT RATE.

THERE IS THAT LAG TIME AS WELL.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE A LOT OF THIS DISCUSSION IS.

ARE WE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO REALLY MAXIMIZE SOME OF THE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COMING UP TODAY AND TRYING TO GET FIBER TO OUR COMMUNITY QUICKLY GIVING UP SOME OF THOSE THINGS OR ARE WE LOOKING AT 10 YEARS FROM NOW, WHATEVER THOSE LEASE RATES WOULD BE EVEN TEN YEARS FROM NOW COMPARED TO TODAY.

>> THANK YOU CJ.

>> VICE MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE? HONESTLY, WE NEED TO MAXIMIZE THE DOLLARS THAT WE CAN RECEIVE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE AND ECA.

AT THIS POINT, THERE IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE OUT THERE.

IDEALLY, I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE THE CITY BUILDING THESE OUT, BE ABLE TO LEASE IT BACK, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN OPEN NETWORK AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT TRADING ONE MONOPOLY

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INFLATION AIN'T GOING DOWN FOLKS AND THE COSTS ARE ONLY GOING TO KEEP GOING UP AND UP AND UP.

I WOULD RATHER BE ABLE TO GET SOME MATCHING DOLLARS AND GET SOME SHOVELS IN THE GROUND QUICKER THAN TO WAIT UNTIL ONE DAY WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PURSUE THE CONTINUING BUILDING AS IS.

WHERE MY THOUGHTS ARE, I DON'T SEE THESE AS MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE EITHER.

WE NEED TO SEE WHAT ISPS ARE THERE, WHO'S GOING TO GIVE US THE BEST DEAL, I KNOW WE HAVE A HALF A DOZEN OR MORE THAT ARE INTERESTED SO LET'S FIND THE BEST PARTNER WE CAN AND PURSUE THAT FRONT AND WHAT WE CAN DO FOR MATCHING DOLLARS THERE.

BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN PROJECTS I FEEL WE NEED TO CONTINUE BUILDING AS IS, SUCH AS CONNECTING CITY HALL TO AN AU AND OUR BUTLER FIBER.

THAT SEEMS LIKE WE JUST HAVE TO DO THAT WITHOUT ISPS.

THERE'S SOME CRITICAL PROJECTS I FEEL WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH AT THE SAME TIME.

ANYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS? COUNCIL MEMBERS, [INAUDIBLE]?

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I'M IN IN SYNC AND WHAT YOU JUST STATED BUT A 2.0 VERSION.

IF WE COULD DEVELOP A STRATEGY THAT COMBINES OPTION 1 AND 2.

OPTION 2 IS PRIMARILY FOR EXPLORATORY IN WHAT ARE THE BEST PRACTICES IN TERMS OF PURSUING A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH AN INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER, WHERE THE CITY CAN SHARE COST AND AT THE SAME TIME OR EVENTUALLY COULD ALSO SHARE WITH REVENUE.

COST-SHARING AND COST RECOVERY AS WELL AS FUTURE REVENUE GENERATION.

IF THE CITY EMBARKS ON A PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP WITH AN INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER.

BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MAYOR, WE CAN EXHAUST ALL ENERGY, SEEKING GRANTS, OBTAINING GRANTS FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL ENTITIES.

BUT I THINK WE ALSO NEED A PRIVATE PARTNER COULD IT BE JUST ONE OR CAN IT BE MORE THAN ONE ISP? A LOT OF THE RESEARCH AND STUDIES AND OPTIONS THAT CAN BE EXPLORED OUT THERE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE] OTHERS? COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY.

>> I WONDER IF WE SHOULD HAVE ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS.

THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS COULD BE FAIRLY FAR-REACHING.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE DO THAT TONIGHT, BUT I THINK THAT IT WOULD MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA SCHEDULING EXECUTIVE SESSION SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY.

YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO PUT ON THE LIST FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IN THE INTERIM THOUGH, I DO THINK WE NEED TO SEND OUT, THERE WOULD BE AN RFP REQUEST FOR RFI, REQUEST FOR INFORMATION OF WHAT PROPOSALS CERTAIN ISPS MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE MORE FORMALIZED TO WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH US.

BUT THOUGHTS ON THAT CITY MANAGER CJ? LET'S START THE BALL ROLLING IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT FOR THAT POSSIBILITY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME, BUT WE CAN REACH OUT WITH OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM AND START PUTTING A SOLICITATION TOGETHER.

>> EXCELLENT.

MAYBE ONE THAT'S MORE OPEN-ENDED SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE AND WHAT POSSIBILITIES THERE ARE BECAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS AND DIFFERENT METHODS IN WHICH THEY DIG TO COMPLETE DIFFERENT ISPS PROJECTS.

LET'S GET THE BEST DEAL WE CAN GET FOR THE CITY.

I SEE NODDING HEADS, SO I THINK WE DO HAVE ENOUGH FOR DIRECTION TOWARDS THAT PURPOSE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCIL. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE FUN PART OF THE DISCUSSION 2.

SMART CITIES.

I DID A PRESENTATION A LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR AGO,

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A LOT OF THAT WAS TIED INTO THE FIBER DISCUSSION BECAUSE FIBER DOES CREATE THAT UNDERLYING INFRASTRUCTURE TO ENABLE SOME OF THESE SMART CITY INITIATIVES.

WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION, TAKE IT TO THE NEXT STEP AND START TO INCORPORATE SOME OF COUNCIL'S THOUGHTS AND IDEAS INTO OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING GOING FORWARD.

FIRST OFF, I'M GOING TO REHASH A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT I DID LAST TIME AND EXPLAIN WHAT IS A SMART CITY.

IF YOU GOOGLE, WHAT IS A SMART CITY, YOU WILL GET A THOUSAND DIFFERENT ANSWERS AND THEY'RE PROBABLY ALL CORRECT.

I'M GOING TO JUST WALK YOU THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT A SMART CITY COULD BE AND THEN I'M GOING TO BRING THE CONVERSATION IN AS TO HOW WE WANT TO DEFINE A SMART CITY FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

THERE'S FOUR HIGH-LEVEL TOPICS THAT I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH.

AGAIN, YOU CAN GOOGLE THIS AND YOU CAN GET A LOT OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIZATIONS, BUT THIS IS HOW IT MADE SENSE IN MY MIND SO THIS IS HOW I'M PRESENTING IT.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH TECHNOLOGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU JUST A LITTLE COUPLE OF DEMOS.

THIS IS A DEMO FROM MY COMPANY CALLED VIVACITY LABS.

I DON'T KNOW IF VIVACITY LABS IS SPECIFICALLY GOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THEY HAD A GREAT WEBSITE THAT CAN HELP DEMONSTRATE WHAT I'M TRYING TO SHOW.

I'M GOING TO BRING THAT UP ONTO THE SCREEN JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SMART CITY INFRASTRUCTURE CAN DO.

THIS BASICALLY TAKES CAMERA INFRASTRUCTURE, A LOT OF THE THING LIKE TRAFFIC CAMERAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE IN PLACE TODAY AND OVERLAYS IT WITH SOME SMART CITY ASPECTS TO IT.

WHAT YOU CAN DO IS WITH THESE CAMERAS, YOU CAN IDENTIFY THINGS LIKE IS THAT A CYCLIST GOING BY? IS THAT A TRUCK GOING BY? IS THAT A BUS GOING BY? IS THERE A PEDESTRIAN GOING BY? THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT PROVIDES A LOT OF INTERESTING ASPECTS TO THIS, IS IT PROVIDES A LOT OF MORE REAL-TIME DATA OF WHAT IS HAPPENING ON OUR ROADS AND WHAT IS HAPPENING ON SOME OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AS WE'RE GOING ALONG.

WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE BARRIERS AND CYCLISTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHAT YOU CAN UTILIZE THIS FOR IS YOU CAN UTILIZE THE CAMERAS REAL-TIME TO GO, WHEN WE MAKE THIS LITTLE CHANGE, MAYBE TO SOME OF THOSE BARRIERS, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT CYCLISTS AS WE GO? WHEN WE LOOK AT BUSES, ARE WE UTILIZING THIS INFRASTRUCTURE TO GIVE BUSES PRIORITIES AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE SIGNALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? YOU CAN EVEN UTILIZE IT TO DO THINGS LIKE MEASUREMENTS TO GO, WE IMPLEMENTED BARRIERS, DOES THAT SEPARATE THE VEHICLES FROM THE CYCLISTS MORE SO AFTER WE PUT IN THE BARRIERS VERSUS BEFORE? IT JUST GIVES US A LOT MORE DATA AND A LOT MORE OPTIONS TO LOOK THROUGH AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS.

A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THIS, ANOTHER DEMO THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW UP IS THE CITY OF PORTLAND HAS THIS OPEN DATA PORTAL ABOUT THEIR RIDERSHIP.

WHAT THEY SHOW HERE IS YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT COLORS OF WHERE THEIR CYCLISTS ARE GOING THROUGHOUT THEIR COMMUNITY.

NOW PORTLAND OBVIOUSLY HAS A LOT OF CYCLISTS AND A LOT OF GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THAT.

BUT YOU CAN LITERALLY GO THROUGH THIS AND BE, IN Q1 OF '21, LET'S LOOK AT WHAT THEIR RIDERSHIP WAS LIKE AND SO WE CAN SEE ROUGHLY WHAT IT WAS LIKE Q1 OF '21 AND THEN IF WE GO TO Q1 OF '22, WE CAN LOOK AT HOW IT HAS GROWN, HOW THEIR CYCLING HAS GROWN OVER THE PAST YEAR.

OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO IS GO, IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THINGS LIKE FALL AND WINTER AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU CAN WATCH HOW CYCLING GROWS OR SHRINKS.

ALL OF THAT IS MADE POSSIBLE BY HAVING THE SENSORS THAT BASICALLY ALLOW US TO REAL-TIME SEE WHAT CYCLING IS GOING THROUGH, WHAT TRAFFIC IS GOING THROUGH, HOW OUR BUSES ARE GOING THROUGH.

WE CAN UTILIZE THE SAME TECHNOLOGY FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND PROVIDE A LOT OF THIS DATA TO COUNCIL WHEN WE'RE MAKING SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS.

SOME OTHER GREAT EXAMPLES OF INFRASTRUCTURE, COVID TESTING SENSORS IN SEWERS.

WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST. AIR QUALITY SENSORS.

WE'VE GOT OUR CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE PUTTING AIR QUALITY SENSORS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY TO GO, WHAT'S THE AIR QUALITY LIFE TODAY? ARE WE MAKING PROGRESS OR ARE THINGS GETTING WORSE? THINGS LIKE THAT. HOW DOES THE AIR QUALITY CHANGE OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR? SMART FACILITIES, THINGS LIKE SMART LIGHTING OR HVAC,

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THINGS LIKE SMART PARKING SENSORS.

THIS CAN BE EITHER SOMETHING LIKE A SENSOR THAT ACTUALLY IS ON THE PARKING SPOT BELOW THAT SENSES IF THERE'S A CAR THERE OR NOT AND SO YOU CAN RESERVE A SPOT.

IF YOU HAVEN'T PAID FOR PARKING, IT CAN ALERT OUR PARK FLAGSTAFF TO ISSUE TICKETS FOR THAT.

OR WE CAN USE THE CAMERA INFRASTRUCTURE AND LOOK AT AREAS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY WHERE THERE'S PARKING AND USE THE CAMERAS TO SENSE IF THERE'S PARKING THERE AS WELL OR IF THEY'VE PAID FOR PARKING.

ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK IS FAIRLY SELF-EXPLANATORY.

AS ELECTRIC VEHICLES GROW, WE CAN IMPROVE ON THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

I MENTIONED SMART TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

WE CAN INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WITH SMART TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

THINGS LIKE BUS PRIORITY, THINGS LIKE PEDESTRIAN PARK PRIORITY, THINGS LIKE CHANGING OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS BASED ON WHEN IT'S NYU GRADUATION VERSUS ANY OTHER DAY OF THE WEEK TO HELP TRAFFIC FLOWS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, AND EVEN JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT THOSE TRAFFIC FLOWS DO AS PART OF SOME OF THOSE BIGGER EVENTS.

YOU SAW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH FLOOD AND FIRE WARNINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WE'RE COLLECTING RAIN DATA AND INCORPORATING THOSE IN INTERESTING WAYS AND ALARM SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE THIS TECHNOLOGY INTO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT IT PURELY FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE PERSPECTIVE OF THINGS LIKE CAMERAS, THINGS LIKE SENSORS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THE BENEFIT'S REALLY IS JUST GETTING MORE DATA REAL-TIME AT A FASTER PACE.

WHAT IT TAKES TO REALLY SUCCEED IN THIS IS A LOT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT, A LOT OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE PUT IN PLACE.

WE'RE ALREADY WORKING TOWARDS THAT WITH SOME OF THE FIBER THAT'S NEEDED TO CONNECT A LOT OF THOSE THINGS, BUT THEN OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, LIKE SIGNALS, LIKE CAMERAS, EVEN IN OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE NEXT DEMO I WANTED TO QUICKLY SHOW ABOUT IS DATA TRANSPARENCY.

I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU ANOTHER DEMO FOR WHAT THE CITY OF CHICAGO HAS DONE.

THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE.

THIS IS JUST A MAP OF CHICAGO.

ON THE RIGHT HERE, THIS IS JUST A LITTLE SEARCH AREA AND YOU CAN ADD A DATASET.

THIS IS LOTS OF DIFFERENT DATASETS THAT THEY HAVE ACROSS THE CITY OF CHICAGO THAT THEY PUT ON THIS PUBLIC FACING MAP.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO LOOK AT REAL QUICK, I'M GOING TO LOOK AT TRAFFIC CRASHES.

WE'RE GOING TO SORT THIS BY CRASH DATE.

LET'S SEE ANYTHING THAT SAY AFTER OCTOBER 1ST OF LAST YEAR.

THEN LET'S ADD ANOTHER THING.

I WANT TO LOOK AT IF THE WEATHER CONDITION EQUALS SNOW.

I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT CRASHES HAPPENED WHEN THERE WAS SNOW ON THE GROUND.

NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA.

THIS IS ALL ANONYMIZED DATA SO IT DOESN'T SAY WHO WAS IN THE CRASH, BUT IT JUST SAYS A CRASH HAPPENED AT THIS LOCATION WHILE IT WAS SNOWING IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO.

YOU CAN LOOK AROUND THE MAP.

UP IN THIS AREA, YOU CAN SEE A CLUSTER OF CRASHES IN THIS AREA.

WE CAN LOOK ALONG THIS ROAD.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CLUSTER OF CRASHES ALONG THIS ROAD.

WE CAN USE THAT JUST TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS.

WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF CRASHES IN A PARTICULAR AREA DURING A SNOW EVENT.

THEN MAYBE YOU COUPLE THIS WITH SAY SOME OF THE CAMERA INFRASTRUCTURE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, WHERE YOU CAN USE THE CAMERAS TO MEASURE HOW MUCH SNOW IS ON THAT ROAD.

WHEN DID THE PLOWS COMBINE LAST? IF WE START TO NOTICE TRENDS WHERE AT THIS INTERSECTION WHEN THE PLOWS HAVEN'T COME BY OFTEN, WE GET A LOT OF CRASHES.

MAYBE WE CHANGED THE WAY THAT WE DO SOME OF THE PLOWING TO PRIORITIZE THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION OR THAT PARTICULAR ROAD BASED ON CRASH DATA.

YOU CAN OVERLAY A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF INFORMATION WHEN WE HAVE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT DATASETS TO WORK OFF OF AND PROVIDE INFORMATION TO STAFF AND TO COUNCIL JUST TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS.

THE OTHER THING WE CAN DO WITH THIS DATA IS WE CAN PROVIDE IT TO LIKE NAU, TO RESEARCHERS TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION REGARDING WAYS TO IMPROVE THE SEA AND THINGS LIKE THAT OR JUST FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES AS WELL.

THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT SMART CITY LOOKS LIKE TO CHICAGO.

THE BENEFITS OF THIS IS WE HAVE MORE DATA TO MAKE MORE INFORMED DECISIONS.

THERE'S SOME ONGOING COST IN COLLECTING ALL THIS DATA AND PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

ANOTHER ONE, THIS IS ONE THAT IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION I DID THAT I SHOWED OFF.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE DEMO IN DETAIL, BUT CITIZEN INTERACTION.

THIS WAS AN EXAMPLE SMARTPHONE APP THAT I THREW TOGETHER JUST TO SHOW OFF THINGS THAT ARE POSSIBLE.

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A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE TRY TO COLLECT INFORMATION, WE'RE COLLECTING INFORMATION OBVIOUSLY FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT A PARTICULAR TOPIC.

BUT IF WE COULD SEND OUT A SURVEY TO EVERYONE WHO HAS THIS ON THEIR SMARTPHONE APP BECAUSE THEY'RE USING IT TO PAY THEIR WATER BILL, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COLLECT A LOT MORE DATA AND A LOT MORE INFORMATION AS WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PROJECTS GOING FORWARD.

IT JUST MAKES IT A STREAMLINED EXPERIENCE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IF I HAD AN UNLIMITED BUDGET AND I HAD ALL MY DREAMS, I COULD SEE THREE DIFFERENT APPS FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

WE HAVE A VISIT FLAGSTAFF APP WHERE YOUR VISITORS AND YOU'RE TRYING TO DRAW THEM TO OUR VARIOUS BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS, AND DIFFERENT THINGS TO DO IN FLAGSTAFF.

I CAN SEE A LIVE FLAGSTAFF WHERE IT'S LIKE PAYING YOUR WATER BILL.

YOU LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

IT CAN CONNECT YOU WITH OTHER GROUPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO REALLY BUILD THOSE COMMUNITY TIES.

UNLIKE A WORK FLAGSTAFF WHERE WE'RE TALKING MORE THINGS LIKE BUSINESSES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THAT BUSINESS ONE-STOP-SHOP TYPE OF SCENARIOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WE CAN REALLY STREAMLINE SOME OF THOSE PROCESSES.

THIS IS AGAIN, JUST IDEAS AND THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO REALLY STREAMLINE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE MAIN THING WITH THIS ONE IS IT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST COSTING THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

BUT THE BENEFITS ARE OBVIOUSLY GREAT.

THERE'S A MORE ENGAGED COMMUNITY AND MORE ENGAGEMENT AMONG THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE AND WORK HERE.

WHAT ELSE IS SMART CITY? STAFF EFFICIENCY.

I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ISN'T SO SHINY AND ALL OF THAT STUFF BUT REALLY WHEN WE FOCUS ON STAFF EFFICIENCY, WHEN WE FOCUS ON GIVING THE STAFF THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS QUICKER, MEET THE COMMUNITY NEEDS QUICKER, WE LOWER OUR INTERNAL COSTS SO THAT WE HAVE MORE BUDGET AVAILABLE FOR OTHER THINGS AND WE JUST SIMPLY PROVIDE BETTER SERVICES AT FASTER SPEEDS TO THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT HAS BEEN REALLY FOCUSING ON INTERNALLY AS PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN SO FAR IS REALLY THAT STAFF EFFICIENCY OF HOW CAN WE PROVIDE OUR STAFF THE TOOLS IN ORDER THAT THEY CAN DO THEIR JOBS BETTER.

I WANT TO NOW SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING ALREADY JUST TO SHOW YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING.

LET ME MOVE OVER TO THAT.

WE HAVE OUR OWN GIS OPEN DATA PORTAL.

SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAW FROM CHICAGO, BUT MAYBE NOT QUITE THE BUDGET THAT THE CITY OF CHICAGO HAS.

BUT HONESTLY, I THINK OUR GIS TEAM DOES A GREAT JOB OF PRESENTING OUR DATA AND PROVIDING AS MUCH DATA AS WE CAN VERY EASILY.

IF YOU GO TO GIS.FLAGSTAFFAZ.GOV, IT'LL BRING YOU TO THIS AND THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT LITTLE APPS THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT.

ONE OF THE INTERESTING ONES IS OUR REGIONAL PLAN.

THIS ONE HAS A LOT OF REALLY INTERESTING THINGS ON IT.

IT'S VERY INTERACTIVE.

IT PROVIDES A LOT OF MAPS THAT SHOW A LOT OF DIFFERENT DATA AS PART OF THE REGIONAL PLAN, JUST A GREAT WAY TO PRESENT DATA TO THE COMMUNITY.

ANOTHER ONE THAT I FIND REALLY INTERESTING IS OUR TRASH AND RECYCLING SCHEDULING APP.

THIS ONE IS PRETTY SIMPLE.

YOU PUT IN A ADDRESS, SO WE'LL PUT IT IN 211 WEST ASPEN THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW AND IT WILL FIND YOU ON THE MAP AND IT'LL SAY THAT YOUR TRASH PICKUP IS ON MONDAY.

YOU'RE RECYCLING PICKUP IS ON THURSDAY.

HERE'S A LIST OF RECYCLABLE ITEMS. HERE'S YOUR BULKY TRASH COLLECTION WEEKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT PROVIDES A LOT OF INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS, HEY, WHEN IS MY TRASH PICKUP DAY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ADDITIONALLY, AT THE VERY TOP OF THIS, WE HAVE AN AREA THAT'S CALLED THE OPEN DATA DOWNLOADS.

THIS IS JUST PROVIDING LITERALLY GIS DATA TO ANYONE WHO NEEDS IT.

SOMETIMES IT'S A CONTRACTOR WHO NEEDS A LITTLE MORE GIS DATA.

SOMETIMES IT'S A RESEARCHER WHO WANTS GIS DATA.

SOMETIMES IT'S SHARING BETWEEN COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE PROVIDE ALL OF THIS DATA THAT'S OPEN AND PUBLIC.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME DATA LIKE OUR CRITICAL WATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE DON'T PROVIDE FREELY AND OPEN.

WE HAVE A LOT MORE SECURITY AROUND THAT, BUT FOR SOME OF THE DATA THAT'S JUST OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD.

I WANT TO SHOW YOU TWO MORE QUICK DEMOS AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE DISCUSSION.

THESE ARE VIDEOS, SO PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THE AUDIO DOES NOT COME ACROSS, I SHOULD BE SHARING MY AUDIO BUT THESE ARE SOME VERY INTERESTING DEMOS.

THESE WERE CREATED BY OUR GIS TEAM.

ROB SPHERE ACTUALLY NARRATED THIS AND DID ALL THE VIDEO EDITING FOR THIS SO IT'S A BIG SHOUT OUT TO ROB SPHERE BUT HERE'S SOME INTERESTING THINGS.

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>> A PIECE OF SMART CITY TECHNOLOGY IS THE USE OF DRONES, WHICH THE CITY PURCHASED AND BEGAN UTILIZING TWO YEARS AGO.

HERE ARE A COUPLE OF PIECES OF THE DRONE EQUIPMENT WE USE; THE VEHICLE, THE BASE STATION, AND THE MOBILE GROUND CONTROL POINTS.

WITH THIS EQUIPMENT, WE FOUND THAT WE CAN GET WITHIN INCHES OF THE TRUE GROUND LOCATION.

THE DRONE IS USEFUL FOR SOME THINGS THAT WE ALL THINK ABOUT WITH DRONES, LIKE CAPTURE VIDEO FOOTAGE OR PHOTOGRAPHY.

HERE'S THE DEMOLITION OF THE FOURTH STREET OVERPASS.

THEN HERE'S SOME STILL IMAGERY OF THE AQUA PLUG SOLAR RAYS FOR INSPECTION OR EXHIBITS AND PRESENTATION.

HERE'S SOME TRAUMATIC VIDEO OF THE FLOODING FROM LAST SUMMER.

JEREMY DIGAIDO HAPPENED TO BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME TO CAPTURE THIS FLOOD FOOTAGE.

THE FLOODING EVENTS HIGHLIGHTED ANOTHER USE FOR THE DRONE.

THIS FLOODING VIDEO ALONG THE SCHWEITZER WASH FOOT'S TRAIL RIGHT ABOVE FOXCONN PARK, MOVED A LOT OF DEBRIS AND SOIL AROUND, CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE AND THE DRAINAGE AREA.

WE CAN FLY THE DRONE AT AREAS OF INTERESTS LIKE THIS.

THROUGH A PROCESS CALLED PHOTOGRAMMETRY, WE CAN DETECT THE ELEVATION OF THE LANDSCAPE.

IN AN AREA LIKE THIS WHERE WE HAVE PRE AND POST FLOODING ELEVATIONS FROM THE DRONE, WE CAN DETERMINE THE EXTENT OF THE CHANGES.

IN THIS SERIES OF IMAGES, THE RED COLOR IN THE FLOOD PLAIN ARE AREAS OF ELEVATION LOSS OR EROSION AND THE GREEN COLORS ARE AREAS OF ELEVATION GAIN OR DEPOSITION.

THIS TYPE OF ANALYSIS IS USEFUL IN HOW THIS WASHING MIGHT NEED TO BE RESTORED IN ORDER TO REBUILD PROPER DRAINAGE THROUGH THE STREAM CHANNEL.

A SIMILAR EXAMPLE IS HOW WE'RE UTILIZING A DRONE AT THE LANDFILL.

THIS VIDEO TAKES US OUT TO THE SANDER LAKES WHEREAS CITY STAFF LIVES AND PROCESSES OF DRONE MISSION QUARTERLY.

THIS REGULATORY MEASURE HELPS US UNDERSTAND HOW FAST THE LANDFILLS REACHING CAPACITY, AS SHOWN IN THIS VISUALIZATION OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JULY 2019 LANDFILL HEIGHTS AND THE JUNE 2021 LANDFILL HEIGHTS.

WE CAN ALSO USE THE DRONE AND DRONE MODELING FOR CITY PLANNING.

THIS AREA WAS FLOWN AFTER THE FLOODS OF 2021 TO CAPTURE THE FLOOD IMPACTS OFF [INAUDIBLE] IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CONTEXT OF PLANNING.

AS WE EXPLORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE AREA LOOKS LIKE.

NOW SAY THIS BUILDING WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT A FIVE STORY ADDITION.

WHAT MIGHT THAT MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK LIKE AND HOW MIGHT THAT CHANGE IF YOU SHARED ACROSS THE CITY? THESE EXAMPLES, BY THE WAY, WERE ALL SHOWN INSIDE A WEB BROWSER SO THERE IS NO NEED FOR SPECIALIZED SOFTWARE TO VIEW THESE THINGS.

OF COURSE, THIS IS A THEORETICAL EXAMPLE, BUT IF WE HAD THIS 3D MODELING CITYWIDE, WE CAN START VISUALIZING WHAT LARGE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD LOOK LIKE IN TOWN.

LIKE THE LARGE STUDENT HOUSING BUILDINGS, OR WHAT THE 4TH STREET OVERPASS WOULD REALLY LOOK LIKE.

TO TAKE THE SMART CITY USES STEP FURTHER, THESE 3D MODELS COULD EVENTUALLY BE USED AS AN AUGMENTED REALITY APPLICATIONS, WHICH WOULD GIVE THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY START SEEING SOME OF THESE PLANNING INITIATIVES IN THE FIELD.

>> I'VE GOT ONE MORE FOR YOU AS WELL.

>> ONE QUESTION I GET A LOT AS A CITY EMPLOYEE IS, WHAT'S THAT THAT'S BEING BUILT OVER THERE? WELL, CITIZENS SEE A BUILDING GOING UP OR ONE BEING TORN DOWN, THEY'RE CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY AROUND THEM AND WANT EASY ACCESS TO INFORMATION.

THE GIS TEAM AND IT IN THE CITY ENGINEERING DIVISIONS HAVE PARTNERED TO ADDRESS THESE QUESTIONS.

THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS BUT WILL HELP PROVIDE BOTH CITIZENS ANSWERS AND STREAMLINE INTERNAL PROCESSES OF WHERE AND HOW PROJECT DATA IS BEING KEPT AND HOW IT'S REPORTED.

A WEB APPLICATION HAS BEEN BUILT AND IT'S ACCESSIBLE FROM ANY WEB BROWSER THAT CAN BE USED TO EXPLORE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, GET UPDATES, AND EXPLORE THE PROJECT'S BUDGET.

HERE'S THE WEBSITE HOSTED BY THE CITY.

WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OF PUBLIC PROJECTS AND DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING OR PRIVATE PROJECTS CAN BE SEEN IN FILTER.

BY SELECTING A PROJECT FROM THE LIST ON THE LEFT OR PANNING AND ZOOMING THE MAP TO SELECT A PROJECT, A USER CAN SEE A DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT, SEE PICTURES OF DIFFERENT PHASES OF THE CONSTRUCTION, GET PROJECT UPDATES AND THE PROJECT BUDGETS.

PROJECT UPDATES ARE EASILY ENTERED BY CITY STAFF IN ANOTHER SIMPLE WEB APPLICATION.

THE PROJECT MANAGERS IT'S YOUR MILESTONES AND UPLOAD PICTURES.

THIS SAME DATASET FEEDS INTO REPORTS THAT CAN BE GENERATED WITHIN A WEB APPLICATION, STREAMLINING PRINTED REPORTING.

ALL THIS DATA LIVES IN ONE CENTRAL DATABASE, MINIMIZING THE NEED TO RE-ENTER DATA IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS, WHICH ALLOWS THE CHANCE OF INTRODUCING DATA ENTRY ERROR.

ANOTHER FEATURE OF THIS APPLICATION IS THAT IT WORKS JUST AS EASILY ON MOBILE DEVICES AND CAN GENERATE AND USE QR CODES.

THE QR CODES FROM THE APP CAN BE PRINTED AND PLACED ON SIGNAGE, DUE TO PROJECT LOCATION.

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OR THE APP CAN FIND YOUR LOCATION SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S NEARBY.

>> I REALLY LIKE THAT LAST ONE IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE IT DOES A LOT OF THINGS.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT MEETS THE CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT THING, YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE STREET, WHAT IS THIS, WHAT'S THIS BIG HOLE IN THE GROUND? YOU SEE A QR CODE, YOU SCAN IT, YOU CAN FIND OUT WHAT IT IS.

IT PROVIDES STAFF EFFICIENCIES.

YOU SAW SOME OF THE AUTOMATIC BUILDING OF REPORTS.

IT PROVIDES A LOT OF DATA THAT WE CAN THEN LOOK AT OVER TIME, WHETHER IT'S FROM BUDGETS OR HOW LONG PROJECT TAKES OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'RE REALLY ENCAPSULATING A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT IDEAS USING SOME OF THE EXISTING TOOLS THAT WE HAVE.

NOW AGAIN, THAT ONE'S A WORK IN PROGRESS, IT'S NOT DONE, WE'RE NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME WITH IT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT RGIS TEAM IS WORKING TO BUILD OUT AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DEFINE WHAT IS A SMART CITY? WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM A SMART CITY? THE NEXT STEPS AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS? IT'S TO ALIGN IT WITH OUR IT STRATEGIC PLAN.

IN THE FALL, IT GOES THROUGH A LOT OF OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING.

WE TALKED TO A LOT OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS, WE'VE SENT OUT STAFF SURVEYS AS FAR AS THINGS THAT WE CAN DO BETTER.

WE REALLY WANT TO INCORPORATE COUNCIL'S THOUGHTS ARE AND IDEAS REGARDING THIS INTO OUR IT STRATEGIC PLAN.

I'M GOING TO PULL THAT UP REAL QUICK.

AS PART OF OUR IT STRATEGIC PLAN, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.

IT'S REALLY LARGE.

IT HAS A LOT OF GREAT DATA THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE DOING WELL, WHERE WE NEED IMPROVEMENT ON ALL THINGS IN THIS.

BUT THERE'S A SECTION HERE CALLED MOONSHOT IDEAS.

THIS IS REALLY COMES ACTUALLY FROM CITY MANAGER CLIFTON.

HE IS REALLY JUST CHALLENGE US TO REALLY THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, BE FORWARD THINKING, REALLY LOOK ON HOW WE CAN FULLY EMBRACE TECHNOLOGY AND INCORPORATE IT INTO ALL THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF WHAT THE CITY DOES.

LAST YEAR THESE WERE SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT WE JUST CAME UP WITH IN-HOUSE, JUST IT GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS OURSELVES.

THE SMART CITY APP, AGAIN, SOMETHING I SHOWED OFF, WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING.

PRIVATE CITY LTE, BASICALLY, CELL PHONE SERVICE, IF YOU WILL, BUT MORE WITH A FOCUS ON CONNECTING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHEN WE CAN'T RUN FIBER TO SOMETHING, WE RUN FIBER TO ONE OF THESE TOWERS AND THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE A BROADER SERVICE OR WE CAN EVEN PROVIDE SOME LOW-COST INTERNET TO CERTAIN COMMUNITIES OR CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS AS WELL.

THOSE ARE IDEAS THAT WE HAVE.

YOU SAW SOME OF THE 3D CITY IDEAS WHERE WE CAN TAKE 3D MODELS OF WHAT'S BEING BUILT, PUT IT ON A 3D MODEL OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE OF THE CITY AND VISUALIZE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE SPACE.

DOES IT BLOCK THE PEAKS? HOW BIG IS THIS BUILDING? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? THINGS LIKE THAT TO REALLY VISUALIZE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, AS WELL AS JUST THE CENTRALIZED DATA WAREHOUSING, JUST PROVIDING MORE DATA, MORE INFORMATION AND EASIER TOOLS FOR US TO WORK WITH.

AS WE REFINE THIS, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR SOME OF THAT COUNCIL INTERACTION, THAT COUNCIL DIRECTION. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE? WHAT DOES SMART CITY MEAN TO YOU? WE'RE ASKING, WHAT IS THE SMART CITY? THE ANSWER IS, WHAT DO YOU WANT IT TO BE? THIS LAST SLIDE IS TO FRAME THE DISCUSSION.

IT HELPS JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF STRUCTURE TO WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT.

I WANT TO EXPRESS THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT SMART CITY SOLUTIONS.

I THINK PROVIDED IN AN EASILY DIGESTIBLE WAY CAN REALLY PUSH SOME OF OUR OTHER INITIATIVES THROUGHOUT THE CITY INTO OVERDRIVE.

HOWEVER, THAT BEING SAID, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF IT.

BY DEFINITION, I'M A LITTLE BIT OF A NERD AND I DEFAULT TO SOLVING EVERY PROBLEM WITH TECHNOLOGY.

SOME OF THESE ITEMS ARE EXPENSIVE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIORITIES ACROSS THE CITY.

A SMART CITY INITIATIVE SHOULD ENHANCE WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, BUT NOT COMPETE WITH THE SAME BUDGET DOLLARS THAT COULD OTHERWISE BE PUT TO MANY OF OUR CITY PRIORITIES.

THE CITY MANAGER HAS ALREADY DEMONSTRATED OUR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION.

WE HAVE A HOUSING EMERGENCY, WE HAVE A CLIMATE EMERGENCY.

WELL, SMART CITY INITIATIVES CAN DIRECTLY IMPACT AND SUPPORT THESE AREAS, GOING IN HALFWAY OFTEN LEADS TO MEDIOCRE RESULTS AND WASTED RESOURCES.

THIS TENDS TO BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU REALLY NEED TO GO ALL-IN FOR SUCCESSFUL RESULTS.

I WOULD MUCH RATHER COUNCIL SAY, NOT RIGHT NOW,

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BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING HERE THAT EXCITES YOU, KNOW THAT I'M EXCITED TO PUSH FORWARD AND INTEGRATE THIS INTO OUR LONG-TERM PLANNING.

THIS SLIDE, LET ME JUST WALK YOU THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT.

I HAVE SOME IDEAS, SOME THOUGHTS ON WHERE COUNCIL MIGHT LAND ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.

DO YOU WANT TO INVEST IN A TARGETED AREA? MAYBE WE TALK ABOUT THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND WE WANT TO FOCUS SOLUTIONS DIRECTLY TO CLIMATE ACTION.

MAYBE THERE'S SOME OF THESE OTHER AREAS THAT I WENT OVER, TECHNOLOGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE, DATA TRANSPARENCY, CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT, STAFF EFFICIENCY.

IS THERE SOMETHING THAT REALLY RESONATES WITH YOU FROM A COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE? IS THERE SOMETHING WHERE MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE FOCUSED AND A LITTLE MORE TARGETED IN A SPECIFIC AREA? IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHAT WE WOULD PROBABLY DO IS TAKE SOME OF THAT, KEEP COMING BACK TO COUNCIL START FOCUSING AND REALLY INCORPORATING SOME OF THIS INTO THE IT STRATEGIC PLAN.

MAYBE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS IS, "LET'S JUST KEEP THE CURRENT COURSE FOR NOW.

MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS MORE LATER." KNOW THAT STAFF IS STILL LOOKING AT THESE SOLUTIONS AS PART OF OUR EVERYDAY WORK.

I WORK WITH THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, WE'RE LOOKING AT SMART CITY THINGS FOR SIGNALS.

I WORK WITH WATER SERVICES, THEY'RE LOOKING AT SMART CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AS PART OF OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE STILL DOING THIS, BUT WE'RE ALL JUST DOING IT AS WE GO RATHER THAN A COORDINATED SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATION.

OR MAYBE YOU GO, "I'M ALL IN, I WANT TO BE ALL SMART CITY ALL THE TIME.

THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER." IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE STILL NEED TO START TO FOCUS.

AT THAT POINT, I WOULD START TO LOOK AT MAYBE A STANDALONE SMART CITY STRATEGIC PLAN.

I ONLY REALLY WANT TO GO DOWN THIS PATH IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL AS A WHOLE IS REALLY GOING WHOLE ABOUT.

I'VE MET WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT DEVELOPED THIS SMART CITY STRATEGIC PLANS FOR THE CITY OF SCOTTSDALE AND THE CITY OF MESA, AND SO I HAVE CONTACTS ON WHERE WE CAN TAKE THIS IN A FUTURE DIRECTION.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT ALL OF THIS TIME AND THIS ENERGY FOR A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT MIGHT JUST SIT ON THE SHELF.

IF COUNCIL IS REALLY GOING WHOLE ABOUT THIS, WE CAN REALLY PUSH FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT I WANT TO SEE WHERE ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON SMART CITY INITIATIVES? WHAT DOES RESONATE WITH YOU? IS THIS THE CONVERSATION FOR TODAY OR IS THIS A CONVERSATION FOR MAYBE TWO YEARS FROM NOW? WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO STOP TALKING.

I'VE GOT MY NOTEPAD AND MY PENCIL.

GREAT FOR AN IT GUY TO HAVE ANALOG STUFF TO TAKE NOTES, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.

>> THANK YOU, CJ, GREAT PRESENTATION.

COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE MY THOUGHTS ARE GOING TO BE. COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY.

>> I FOUND THAT EVERYTHING WE JUST HEARD WAS INTERESTING AND SOME OF IT WOULD BE USEFUL.

THIS IDEA THAT YOU'RE ALL IN OR NOTHING, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

I THINK WE SHOULD PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT THINGS WE WANT TO DO AND DO THEM RATIONALLY.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DOING ALL OF THIS, I WROTE DOWN FRAZIER, A LOT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT.

I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ARE PRACTICAL AND USEFUL.

BUT JUST TO SAY, CARTE BLANCHE, GO AHEAD AND MAKE US INTO A SMART CITY FOR THE SAKE OF BEING A SMART CITY IS NOT NECESSARILY PRUDENT.

I THINK WE NEED A BALANCED APPROACH.

THAT'S MY INITIAL THOUGHTS.

>> COUNCILMAN ROSLYN.

>> MAYOR MAY RESPOND REAL QUICK.

>> OH, YEAH. FOR SURE.

>> YEAH, AND REALLY THE COMMENT ABOUT ALL-IN, IT MIGHT BE ALL IN ON ONE SMALL THING.

I DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN ALL IN ON EVERYTHING THAT I SHOWED OFF TODAY.

I JUST MEAN REALLY TAKING THAT FOCUS.

IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY RESONATES, EVEN IF IT'S JUST ONE SMALL THING, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PUT A LOT OF ENERGY AND A LOT OF EFFORT INTO AND REALLY GO ALL THE WAY.

I'VE SEEN WHERE SOME OF THE SMART CITY, WHERE THEY GO, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO JUST CHECK THE SMART CITY BOX, AND IT USUALLY DOESN'T SERVE THE INTERESTS OF THE COMMUNITY VERY WELL OR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN ALL IN, MEANING FOR ALL OF IT.

BUT EVEN IF THERE'S ONLY ONE OR TWO THINGS THAT RESONATE, LET'S REALLY PRIORITIZE THOSE THINGS.

>> YES. COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY.

>> FOR INSTANCE, COORDINATED STOPLIGHTS.

I THINK THERE'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT ALREADY WHERE WE SYNCHRONIZE THE STOPLIGHTS.

I HATE IT WHEN I GET TO A STOPLIGHT, GO UP TO TWO BLOCKS AND I GET A RED LIGHT.

IT'S LIKE CAN THESE BE COORDINATED, AND THE IDEA THAT

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THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF GIS, WHICH FOR THE CROWD STANDS FOR GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SERVICES.

IS THAT THE RIGHT SERVICES? GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION ANYWAY, AND BASICALLY IT'S ELECTRONIC MAPPING, WHICH IS VERY HANDY FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, SO OBVIOUSLY WE SHOULD CONTINUE IN THAT.

BUT JUST AS CARTE BLANCHE SAY, YEAH, LET'S DO ALL THESE THINGS.

NO, I WOULDN'T GO THERE.

>> COUNCILMAN ROSLYN.

>> YEAH. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR ALL THE CJ.

REALLY EXCITING CONVERSATION.

I'M VERY GUNG-HO ABOUT THIS.

I THINK WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY INCORPORATE SMART CITY OF PURCHASE.

I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO DO IT IN EVERY WAY CAN.

I APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND WANTING TO START OFF SURGICALLY AND GO ALL-IN ON CERTAIN TARGETED ASPECTS.

I AM INTERESTED IN TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT.

I THINK THAT'D BE A SMART WAY TO START.

I THINK IT SENDS A GOOD SIGNAL UNINTENDED TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE TAKING OUR MODALITY CONVERSATIONS AND REALLY TRYING TO BRING TECHNOLOGY IN THE LATEST AND GREATEST AND DATA MANAGEMENT INTO THIS PROCESS AS WE RE-IMAGINE OUR CITY FOR NOT JUST CARS, BUT FOR OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION AS WELL.

I WOULD BE ABLE TO START THERE.

I'M HESITANT TO PULL THE LEVER ALL THE WAY ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW THERE MIGHT BE OTHER THINGS THAT I WOULD REALLY GRAVITATE TOWARDS THAT ARE ON MY RADAR RIGHT NOW.

BUT JUST KNOW CJ AND LEADERSHIP THAT WHEN IT COMES TO EARLY ADOPTION OF TECHNOLOGIES AND NEW WAYS OF DOING THINGS AND GETTING DATA, FARMING DATA AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT DATA IS GETTING BACK OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND USEFUL, INTERESTING INTERFACES THAT PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY AND BETTER INFORMATION AND BETTER DECISION-MAKING, NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY BUT FOR THE RESIDENTS.

I'M ALL FOR IT. THESE ARE INVESTMENTS THAT ARE NEVER CONVENIENT TO MAKE, AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIORITIES RIGHT NOW AND FOR LACK OF A BETTER PHRASE, WE'RE PUTTING OUT A LOT OF SPOT FIRES.

BUT I WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY INVESTED AND GUNG-HO ABOUT GOING ALL-IN ON SMART CITY APPROACHES.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ROSLYN. VICE MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT GOOGLED WHAT IS A SMART CITY, AND WE COVER JUST A FEW ASPECTS OF WHAT IT COULD BE.

THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING.

I'M ONE OF THOSE WHERE I'M DEFINITELY ALL IN.

I DO SEE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE OUR TIME.

IT MAY NOT HAPPEN TODAY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THIS CONVERSATION GOING.

WHEN IT SAYS INVEST MORE ALL AROUND, THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE SURE WHERE THE MOST IMPACT IS? I DON'T.

ALL OF THE TARGETED AREAS INTERESTS ME.

SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SMART CITIES STRATEGIC PLAN EVEN IF IT CAN'T HAPPEN TODAY.

I KNOW WE'RE ALL STRETCHED IN, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL OF THE INFORMATION, IT WAS A FANTASTIC PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER [INAUDIBLE].

>> THANK YOU. THANKS, CJ.

ALL OF THIS WAS FANTASTIC INFORMATION AND VERY VERY EXCITING.

SO FOR ME, I SAW A LOT OF OVERLAP AND POTENTIAL FOR PARTNERSHIP IN ESPECIALLY THE AREAS OF DATA TRANSPARENCY, CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT, AND STAFF EFFICIENCY.

I THINK A LOT OF WHAT YOU POINTED TO AND EVEN SOME OF THE FEATURE PROJECTS THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING LIKE THE APP AND SOME OF THE FURTHER ENGAGEMENT OF THE GIS SYSTEM.

WE'RE REALLY TARGETING AND HONING IN ON THOSE AREAS AND THAT REALLY EXCITED ME.

I'M DEFINITELY ALL IN ON THOSE AREAS.

I DO WANT TO SEE THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN WHAT'S CURRENTLY HAPPENING AND WHAT'S POTENTIAL FOR THE FUTURE, AND DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR FUTURE IMPLEMENTATION RATHER THAN NECESSARILY GOING ALL-IN RIGHT NOW,

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BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE SMART CITY TECHNOLOGY COMING TO FLAGSTAFF.

BEYOND THAT, I JUST HAD A SIDE QUESTION.

ARE WE CUTTING THE CONVERSATION ON MICRO TRENCHING? I SAW THAT IN AN EARLIER PRESENTATION AND I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON IT, BUT IT'S NOT THERE NOW.

>> YES. I WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BRING A LITTLE BIT OF A PRIMER ON MICRO TRENCHING BECAUSE SOME OF THE ISPS THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN ART AND I WANTED TO GET COUNCIL INPUT ON IT.

BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS BASICALLY WAIT UNTIL IF AN ISP, IF THAT'S THEIR PRIMARY FOCUS OF HOW THEY DEPLOY FIBER, THAN WE WOULD BRING THAT CONVERSATION BACK TO COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.

STAFF IS STILL EXPLORING IT IN-HOUSE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PROS AND THE CONS, AND THERE'S LOTS OF BOTH, THERE'S LOTS OF PROS AND LOTS OF CONS, AND SO WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE EXPLORATION, BUT RATHER THAN TAKE UP THE TIME FOR SOMETHING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT EVER OCCUR, WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY JUST WEIGHT AND IF IT'S AS PART OF THAT SUM, THAT RFP PROCESS IF ONE OF THE PROPOSALS IS MICRO TRENCHING, WE WOULD THEN BRING THAT CONVERSATION MORE TOTALITY TO COUNCIL.

>> THANK YOU.

>> CAN WE GET A 30 SECONDS ON MICRO TRENCHING?

>> THE 30-SECOND VERSION IS THEY BASICALLY TAKE A BLADE AND CUT A TWO-INCH HOLE ABOUT 18 INCHES DOWN AND PUT FIBER BASICALLY RIGHT IN THE GROUND.

IT'S A LOW-COST WAY TO DO IT SO THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION THOUGH AND I CAN PROVIDE SOME LINKS TO SOME GREAT INFORMATION VIA EMAIL IF YOU PREFER.

>> IT'S KIND OF WHAT I FIGURED.

>> EXCELLENT. WELL, THEN I'LL JUST SAY THAT I'M ALL IN WITH THIS.

WE NEED TO GET A PLAN IN ORDER THOUGH AND I'M STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF STARTING A STANDALONE SMART CITY STRATEGIC PLAN SO THAT WAY WE ARE MOVING FORWARD IN A STRATEGIC MANNER [LAUGHTER] AND ENSURING THAT THIS IS GETTING THE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AND INPUT FROM CITY OFFICIALS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE LARGEST IMPACT AND BANG FOR OUR BUCK IS GOING TO BE.

TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT THOUGH IS KEY AND THOUGH WE ARE GOING TO NEED SOME HEAVY BROADBAND INVESTMENT TO REALLY START THAT UP.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL FOR OUR DECISION-MAKING AT THE DAIS AS YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT, HOW ARE WE? WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO RETHINK OUR ROADS AND RETHINK HOW WE ARE PRIORITIZING BIKE-PED AND AS WE START TO REDESIGN AND RETHINK THESE THINGS AND IMPLEMENT THEM, IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT TO HAVE THAT EVALUATION TOOL THAT WILL HELP US AS A COUNCIL BODY AND AS A CITY TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, FOR OUR DOLLARS AND CENTS.

THIS CREATES AN EVALUATION PROCESS WITH HARD DATA THAT ALSO HELPS US EXPLAIN OUR STORY FROM COUNCIL ON WHY WE'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE KNOW WE ARE RE-EVALUATING CONTINUOUSLY TO ENSURE WE'RE REACHING THE OUTCOMES WE WANT.

THIS HAS A LOT OF POWER BEHIND IT, AND THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

THERE'S MORE THINGS THAT WEREN'T EVEN MENTIONED, LIKE SENSORS ON COMMERCIAL GARBAGE CANS, SO WE'RE NOT WASTING TIME GOING TO GARBAGE CANS THAT MAY ONLY BE 1/4 FULL OR ONES THAT ARE OVERFLOWING BY THE TIME WE GET THERE, WE HAVE SENSORS THAT CAN TELL US WHEN TO PICK THEM UP.

OR DIGITIZING OUR WATER METERS, FOR EXAMPLE, I HAD A FRIEND WHO WAS OUT OF TOWN FOR TWO WEEKS, AND RIGHT AT THE START THEIR PIPES BROKE AND THEIR UPSTAIRS BATHROOM, AND THEY STILL HAVE NOT GOTTEN THEIR KITCHEN FIXED AFTER SEVEN MONTHS NOW.

THESE ARE THE THINGS, DIGITIZING WATER METERS, BOOP, AN ALERT ON YOUR PHONE SAYING, HEY, YOUR WATER USAGE HAS GONE CRAZY THE LAST 12 HOURS, WHAT'S GOING ON? THEN THAT COULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED TO THE INDIVIDUAL, WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN SOMEONE TO SHUT OFF THAT WATER TEMPORARILY AND FIGURE IT OUT SO THE WHOLE HOUSE WAS NOT RUINED.

THERE'S SO MANY SPIN-OFF BENEFITS DIGITIZING WATER METERS.

I'LL JUST STOP THERE, I'M SORRY, I GET GOT TO THIS STUFF TOO.

[LAUGHTER] WE HAVE A LONG ROAD TO GO FOR IT AND I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME DIRECTION HERE FROM COUNCIL THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE A STANDALONE SMART CITY STRATEGIC PLAN.

I DO KNOW WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT COULD HELP WITH THAT, WHO HAS BEEN HELPING WITH MACY'S OR SCOTTSDALE STRATEGIC PLAN.

LET'S GET THAT IN ORDER TO GET THAT BALL ROLLING SO THAT WAY WE

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>> YEAH, AND I ALSO SUPPORT DOING A PLAN BUT YOU MENTIONED THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME PRIORITIZATION IN THERE AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT.

>> THAT I THINK WILL COME TO FRUIT TO BEAR WITH THE SMART CITY STRATEGIC PLAN.

LOOKING AT HOW OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE IT, THEY'VE HAD OUTSIDE INDIVIDUALS COME IN, MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, MEET WITH OUR PARTNERS LIKE NAU, FUSD HERE AND SEE WHAT'S GOING TO WORK WELL FOR ALL OF US AND WE CAN COLLABORATE FOR THE SMART CITY TYPES OF INITIATIVES BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND A LOT OF GEEKS IN THOSE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES WHO WILL ALSO BE HELPFUL IN SEEING THESE THINGS TO FRUITION.

I THINK THIS WOULD BE A COUNCILMEMBER SALAS.

SORRY, I HAVE THE THING UP FOR SEASON CUES, SO I'M APOLOGIZE, I WAS LOOKING AT THE CHAT BOX. COUNCILMEMBER SALAS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO VOCALIZE MY PERSPECTIVE.

YES, I'M ALL IN ON A STANDALONE SMART CITY STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT ALSO KEEPING IN MIND AND ALSO EXPLORING THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CREATING SYNERGIES.

THE SMART CITY STRATEGIC PLAN COULD BE IN SYNC AND SYNERGIZE WITH THE ONGOING PROCESS, WITH THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING PROCESS WITH METRO PLAN, AS WELL AS OUR OF COURSE, OVERALL, HOW IT WILL BE ALIGNED WITH OUR REGIONAL PLANNING UPDATE.

I BELIEVE THE EQUINA IS ALSO EMBARKING ON A STRATEGIC PLAN.

THIS IS A PIVOTAL PERIOD NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, BUT FOR THE REGION TO BE LOOK FORWARD WITH OUR MOONSHOT IDEAS AS WELL.

ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO INFRASTRUCTURE, SEE HOW IT RELATES TO YES, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT AND ALSO TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AS WELL AS HOW WE FOLLOWED IN OUR OTHER PLANS, SUCH AS THE TENURE HOUSING PLAN AND THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN THAT ARE IN PLACE, SO UPWARD AND FORWARD. THANK YOU, CJ.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN SALAS.

>> THANK YOU SALAS, I REALLY APPRECIATE.

>> SORRY, DO AHEAD SIR. [LAUGHTER]

>> THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION, FEEL FREE.

I JUST WANTED TO SUMMARIZE WHAT I THINK I'VE HEARD JUST TO MAKE SURE.

>> YEAH, GO AHEAD.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S BROAD SUPPORT TO EXPLORE WHAT THE STAND-ALONE SMART CITY STRATEGIC PLAN LOOKS LIKE.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF ALSO SUPPORTS TO REALLY LOOK INTO SOME OF THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT STUFF AND HOW THAT SEEMS TO BE A TOP PRIORITY AROUND THE BOARD.

I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS AROUND SYNERGY COLLABORATION AND SO YEAH, DEFINITELY IT'S PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE PRIORITIZE AS MAKING SURE IT ENHANCES A LOT OF THE OTHER PLANS AND JUST BUILDS UPON WHAT SOME OF THOSE PLANS ARE.

WE WILL START TO INCORPORATE THIS FEEDBACK INTO OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY, IT'LL BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO START TO LOOK LIKE.

>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU CJ, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

WITH THAT, I THINK IT MIGHT BE TIME FOR A SHORT BREAK, NOT A LONG ONE.

LET'S DO SEVEN MINUTES, SO 7:25 JUST LET'S MAKE IT A QUICK ONE AND BE BACK HERE.

[NOISE] SEVEN MINUTES AND 22.

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[03:32:25]

[BACKGROUND] ARE WE ALL UP IN LIVE-STREAMING?

>> MAYOR, WE ARE GOOD TO GO.

>> EXCELLENT. WE'RE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 12,

[12. JWP Extension, Phase I and II - Proposed Alignments Council approval on final alignment, alternative or original, for JWP Extension, Phase I and II - Proposed Alignments to continue a 30% design and begin the planning process.]

[NOISE] TAKE US AWAY.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION TO DO AN UPDATE TO JWP AS WELL AS SEEK COUNCIL DIRECTION ON A FINAL ALIGNMENT.

ON THE CONTEXT MAP, WE HAVE A GREEN CIRCLE HERE.

IT ENCOMPASSES APPROXIMATELY THE 2,200 ACRE REGION OF LAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WILL BE SERVICED BY THIS ROAD.

IT CURRENTLY ENDS AT THE EASTERN EXTENT TO JOHN WESLEY POWELL, JUST NORTH OF PINE CANYON, JUST EAST OF LONE TREE.

IN THE NORTH, IT ENDS ON THE EAST SIDE OF CANYON DEL RIO, JUST SOUTH OF BUTLER AVENUE.

THIS IS THE UPDATED STAKEHOLDER MAP.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT IN HERE. THERE WE GO.

THAT WILL BE IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, ARE THE SMALLER PARCEL PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE LARGE PARCEL PROPERTY OWNERS.

WITHIN THIS WHITE BOUNDING BOX ARE THE SMALL PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNERS, AND THE ORANGE ARE THE CITY PARCELS, WHEREAS THE GREEN PARCELS ARE COUNTY PARCELS.

AGAIN, HERE YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW LINE, WHICH IS THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.

THEN THIS SALMON-COLORED LINE IS THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER IN THE COMING SLIDES.

BUT JUST FOR CONTEXT, THIS MAP IS IN THIS PRESENTATION A COUPLE OF TIMES AND WE HAVE IT AT THE END TOO AND I THINK WE'LL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT SO PEOPLE CAN REFER TO IT AS WELL.

BRIEFLY, I JUST WANT TO GO OVER TO THE TEAM.

THIS WAS SHARED BACK IN OCTOBER OF '21.

WE'VE WORKED WITH NO LESS THAN 10 CITY DEPARTMENTS.

GREAT TEAM, BRILLIANT, TALENTED PEOPLE I GET THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH.

COMMUNITY SERVICE PARTNERS THAT ARE CLOSING IN ON ABOUT 10 AS WELL.

IT'S WONDERFUL REACHING OUT TO THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE THAT SERVE OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE A KEY INTEREST IN THIS NEW ROADWAY, THIS CORRIDOR THAT WE'LL BE CONSTRUCTING.

PEAK ENGINEERING IS OUR DESIGN ENGINEERING CONSULTANT AND THEY HAVE JOINED US HERE TONIGHT.

THEY HAVE FOUR SUB-CONSULTANTS THAT THEY SEEK IN VARIOUS FIELDS OF EXPERTISE AS WELL AS PART OF THE CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.

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THIS IS DISCUSSED IN THE FLAGSTAFF REGIONAL PLAN, THE 2030.

THIS IS SHOWED UP IN ABOUT THE YEAR 2000.

IT'S CURRENTLY SHOWED IN MAP 25.

FEAR NOT THAT THIS SLIDE IS ACTUALLY ENLARGED ON THE NEXT SLIDE, SO DON'T WORRY, YOU CAN'T SEE IT BUT THE RED AREA, KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE REFERRING TO THAT ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

AGAIN, THIS WAS APPROVED IN 2018 IN NOVEMBER AS PART OF PROPOSITION 419.

THAT INCLUDED FUNDING FOR 40 PERCENT OF THE JOHN WESLEY POWELL CORRIDOR, FOR THE NEW ROADWAY, THE BIKE AND PED IMPROVEMENTS ALONG WITH THAT ROADWAY AS WELL.

I WANT TO NOTE TOO, THAT CURRENTLY IN DESIGN, WE WOULD BE STARTING WITH A TWO LANE ROAD WITH A CENTER TURN LANE WHENEVER IT IS NEEDED, AS WELL AS A FOOTS TRAIL ON THE EAST SIDE OR THE SOUTH SIDE, AND THEN A SIDEWALK ON THE WEST OR THE NORTH SIDE, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE IN THE CORRIDOR.

CURRENTLY IN DESIGN, THERE'S ALSO ON STREET BIKE LANES.

AGAIN, THIS IS VERY EARLY IN THE DESIGN.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN FLEXIBLY DESIGN AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT THE CITY WOULD SEEK RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR A FULL BUILD-OUT, WHICH WOULD BE A FOUR LANE ROAD.

BUT I WANT TO CAVEAT THAT WITH THE FACT THAT A FOUR LANE ROAD MAY BE DECADES AWAY AND THERE MAY NEVER BE A NEED FOR A FOUR LANE ROAD.

WE'RE STARTING WITH A TWO LANE ROAD AND THEN SEEING HOW CAPACITY GOES AS THE YEARS GO ON.

I WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT POINT.

AGAIN AS PROMISED, THIS IS THE ENLARGED ROADWAY FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION MAP.

I ENLARGE THE LEGEND BECAUSE I KNOW IT CAN BE CHALLENGING TO READ.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS A FUTURE MINOR ARTERIAL.

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT SHOWN HERE IN BLUE.

THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE PIECES OF THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT SHOWN HERE IN YELLOW, AND THEN IT GOES UP TO HEROLD RANCH ROAD HERE AS WELL.

WE WOULD BE DEVIATING FROM THAT GOING ACROSS CANYON DEL RIO'S LAND, BUT REJOINING THAT ON THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT SHOWN.

I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE PLANNING TEAM AND BECAUSE THIS IS A FUTURE CORRIDOR, THERE IS NO REASON TO AMEND THE REGIONAL PLAN JUST TO CHANGE THE ALIGNMENT AS LONG AS THE NECESSARY CONNECTIONS ARE MADE.

I WANTED TO VERIFY THAT WITH THE PLANNING TEAM BEFORE AND I SAID THAT, BUT THAT IS A KEY COMPONENT THAT I WANTED TO SHARE IN THIS AS WELL.

THEN A LATE ADD THAT WE HAD TODAY WAS THE ARIZONA NATIONAL SCENIC TRAIL.

THAT DOES GO THROUGH THIS AREA AS WELL.

I WANT TO REACH OUT AND EXTEND MY APPRECIATION TO PEAK ENGINEERING THAT PULLED THIS EXHIBIT TOGETHER JUST TODAY.

EXISTING AND I HAVE A CAVEAT FOR THIS SLIDE TOO, THAT THE PROPOSED ALIGNMENT THAT'S SHOWING HERE IS ONLY PROPOSED BY THE DESIGN TEAM.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROPERTY RIGHTS TO THIS LINE.

WE HAVE NOT GONE OUTSIDE OF THE DESIGN TEAM AT THIS POINT.

IT'S SIMPLY, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS AREA, THE GOAL OF A NATIONAL SCENIC TRAIL IS TO EMBRACE THE NATURAL SCENIC ENVIRONMENT.

IF THERE'S HOUSES GOING TO BE DEVELOPED OR DEVELOPMENT COMING ALONG IN EXISTING TRAIL, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REMAIN THAT COPACETIC EXPERIENCE OF A NATURE EXPERIENCE ALONG AND NATIONAL SCENIC TRAIL.

WHAT WE'VE DONE AS A TEAM IS WE'VE GONE FORWARD WITH A PROPOSED ALIGNMENT THAT FOLLOWS THE DRAINAGE OF THE RIO DE FLAG.

THAT HAS A LOT OF COMPONENTS THAT CAN FLEX AN EBB AND FLOW.

BUT I WANTED TO SHARE THAT THOUGH IT'S LABELED PROPOSED, THAT IS PROPOSED BY OUR TEAM INTERNALLY, NOT EXTERNALLY.

WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH SOME OF THE ENTITIES THAT THAT WOULD BE RAN BY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE APPROVAL FROM THOSE ENTITIES.

ALSO I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON FOCUSED PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.

WE'RE CALLING IT FOCUSED PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING WITH THE PARCEL OWNERS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THESE ALIGNMENTS FIRST BEFORE WE GO COMMUNITY-WIDE.

THAT WAS PART OF THE PHASE I PROCESS, WAS REACHING OUT TO THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WERE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY AN ALIGNMENT COMING THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE WERE HERE IN OCTOBER OF 2020, WITH THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK.

WE PRESENTED THAT WITH COUNCIL.

WE CAME BACK AND WE DID THE SAME SIMILAR PRESENTATION, I SHOULD SAY, TO THE SMALL PARCEL PROPERTY OWNERS IN JANUARY OF 2021.

AFTER THAT, WE MET WITH APPROXIMATELY ABOUT A DOZEN PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.

PEAK ENGINEERING CREATED EXHIBITS THAT'S SHOWING THE FOOTPRINT OF AT THE TIME OF FOUR LANE ROAD, THE FULL BUILD-OUT OF RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THOSE PARCELS THAT WERE IMPACTED ALONG THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.

THEN WE ARE BACK AGAIN IN OCTOBER OF 21, WE GAVE A BRIEF UPDATE.

WE ASKED FOR CHANGE ORDER 4, WHICH COUNCIL GRACIOUSLY APPROVED. THANK YOU.

THAT ALLOWED US TO LOOK AT AN ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT.

THERE WAS A UNANIMOUS CONSENT AT THAT POINT FROM COUNCIL TO PURSUE INVESTIGATING AND ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE 4TH STREET CORRIDOR OF THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.

THAT POINT WE STARTED TO ENGAGE WITH A LARGE PARCEL PROPERTY OWNERS IN

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THAT MEETING CULMINATED IN MAY LAST MONTH WITH A CORPORATE MEETING WITH A LARGE PARCEL PROPERTY OWNERS, WHERE WE SAT DOWN AND REALLY CAME TO A CONSENSUS OF WHAT WOULD WORK ACROSS THEIR PARCELS.

THEY CAME TO US AND WE LOOKED AT ENGINEERING FEASIBILITY, AND WE CAME UP WITH A SALMON-LINE THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP TONIGHT.

THEN WE SENT OUT A PROJECT UPDATE TO THE SMALL PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNERS IN MAY.

WE ALSO UPDATED THE PROJECT WEBSITE.

THEN IN JUNE, WE SENT OUT ANOTHER UPDATE TO THE SMALL PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNERS ENCOURAGING THEM TO SHOW UP AND MAKE COMMENTS.

VIRTUALLY IN PERSON AND VIA EMAIL, HAD A GREAT TURNOUT.

IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL EMAILING WITH A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS HERE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND APPRECIATE THEIR TIME AND WAITING TONIGHT TO SPEAK.

I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT WHEN WE WERE HERE IN OCTOBER OF 21, WE PRESENTED THE CONCEPT OF THESE BOOKENDS.

WE HAD THIS GREEN LINE THAT WAS THE FURTHEST WEST OR NORTH AND WE HAD THE BLUE LINE WHICH WAS THE SOUTH OR THE EASTERN EXTENT.

AT THAT POINT, BASED ON WHAT WE KNEW, WE SHARED THAT THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT WILL MOST LIKELY FALL SOMEWHERE IN THIS ZONE BETWEEN THESE TWO LINES.

AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE LARGE PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNERS LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION FEASIBILITY AND DESIGN, SOME OF THESE LARGE PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNERS ARE IN THE MIDDLE BEGINNING MASTER PLANNING AND DESIGNING.

SOME OF THEM ARE A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG THAN OTHERS, BUT BY HUGGING FURTHER OVER ON THEIR BOUNDARY OF THE EASTERN BOUNDARY, IT GIVES THEM THAT FLEXIBILITY TO COME UP WITH A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND NOT COMMIT THE LAND FURTHER WEST ON THEIR PROPERTIES.

AS WITH ANY DECISION, THERE'S SOME PLUSES AND SOME MINUSES.

WE JUST WANTED TO ENCAPSULATE SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE LOOKING AT TONIGHT AND THERE'LL BE COMMENTS SHARED TONIGHT AS WELL.

I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT COUNCIL AGAIN, THE DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO US LAST OCTOBER TO LOOK AT AN ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT APART FROM THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.

IN MAY OF 2021, THERE WAS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY OF PARTNERSHIP WITH A LARGE PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNERS AND THAT PARTNERSHIP COULD ACTUALLY RESULT IN EXPEDITIOUSLY CONSTRUCTING A ROADWAY, SO THAT IS A PLUS TO HAVING A ROADWAY COME THROUGH THIS AREA.

THERE'S ALSO BECAUSE OF THAT CONSENSUS, THE LARGE PARCEL PROPERTY OWNER, THAT RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION IS MOST LIKELY TO GO QUICKER.

MD HAVE A GREATER SUPPORT FOR THAT, AS WELL AS CONSIDERATION FOR ACCESS TO THE NAU, ABOR PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH AND BRIGHTON ON THE NORTH, AS WELL AS ALL THE 107 SMALL PARCEL PROPERTY OWNERS HERE THAT WOULD NOT RECEIVE AN IMPROVED ROAD THAT WOULD BE ACCESSING THEIR PROPERTY FROM THE EXISTING HEROLD RANCH ROAD.

THE LAST BULLET POINT THERE IS ACCESS TO UNDEVELOPED LAND.

CLEARLY, YOU'D HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO UNDEVELOPED LAND IN AN ALTERNATIVE ROAD.

NEXT STEPS. DEPENDING ON THE DECISION THAT'S MADE HERE TONIGHT, WE WOULD REVISE THE LAND-USE FRAMEWORK IF WE WERE GOING TO PURSUE AN ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT.

THAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE ALREADY ON THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.

THEN THERE COULD POTENTIALLY ALSO BE THE INCLUSION OF A FINAL DESIGN ON EITHER ALIGNMENT BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT IS CURRENTLY AT 30 PERCENT DESIGN.

OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH PEAK TAKES US THROUGH 30 PERCENT DESIGN OF AN ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT AND THAT DESIGN IS PROBABLY AROUND 15-20 PERCENT AS IT STANDS NOW SO THERE'S STILL SOME MORE WORK TO GET THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT UP TO A 30 PERCENT DESIGN.

THEN CONTINUE OUR MEETINGS WITH A SMALL PARCEL OF LAND AND LARGE PARCEL PROPERTY OWNERS GOING INTO THIS SUMMER, THIS FALL, AND BEYOND.

WITH THAT, I CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND MY GRATITUDE TO THOSE THAT SHOWED UP AND HAVE EMAILED AND HAVE WAITED PATIENTLY, AND I'LL RELINQUISH THE FLOOR.

LET ME ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS IN DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WITH THAT,

[14. Public Participation]

WE'LL START WITH THOSE WHO'VE BEEN SITTING HERE PATIENTLY AND THEN WE'LL GO TO ELECTRONIC THEREAFTER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

MY APOLOGIES IF I MISPRONOUNCE NAMES.

WE'LL START WITH KEN CUTLICK.

>> THANK YOU. IT'S CUTLICK.

>> THANK YOU.

>> IT'S HARD TO PRONOUNCE.

MY NAME IS KEN CUTLICK.

OBVIOUSLY, I'VE BEEN IN FLAGSTAFF HERE FOR 30 YEARS OUT IN THAT FORESTDALE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY WERE JUST REFLECTING UPON.

TWENTY YEARS AGO, I BUILT MY HOUSE AT 4701 EAST MONROE

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I AM HERE BECAUSE I THINK THIS TOPIC IS SO CRITICAL FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M HERE FOR REALLY TWO REASONS: SAFETY AND FAIRNESS.

I THINK I NEED TO POINT OUT THAT THESE ARE THE BIGGEST ISSUES WITH THE NEW ALIGNMENT AS OPPOSED TO THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.

THE NEW ALIGNMENT IS JUST FRANKLY, JUST NOT FAIR, AND IT'S NOT SAFE.

ON THE ORIGINAL 4TH STREET CONNECTION APPROVED BY THE VOTERS AND MYSELF IN PROPOSITION 409 IS NEEDED TO MAKE A SAFE, RELIABLE CONNECTION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN FORESTDALE.

DOZENS OF TIMES IN THE 30 YEARS I'VE BEEN OUT ON MY ROAD, HAVE WE NOT HAD ACCESS TO OUR OWN HOME BECAUSE OF FLOODS? ON REAL THROUGH THE REAL FLAG.

WE'VE HAD SNOW CONDITIONS BLOCKING THE ROAD.

ALL THINGS WRECKS ON THE ROAD, JACKKNIFE, DOUBLE-WIDE TRAILERS, AND IT'S JUST NOT A SAFE ROAD.

WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF 4TH STREET COMING THROUGH HERE, THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT THAT LAND 25 YEARS AGO.

IT'S A ONE-WAY IN AND OUT.

IT'S NOT SAFE FOR OUR KIDS, OUR ELDERLY PARENTS, AND ALL THE FOLKS WHO LIVE FULL-TIME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE NEW FIRES THAT WAS OUTLINED TODAY WILL MAKE FLOODING AN EVEN BIGGER ISSUE DOWN HEROLD RANCH ROAD BECAUSE THE RIO DE FLAG IS GOING TO FLOOD.

IT'S GOING TO FLOOD EVEN MORE OFTEN NOW.

THIS SHOULD BE PART OF THE EMERGENCY PLAN THAT THEY JUST SPOKE OF FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN FORESTDALE.

FAIRNESS IS MY SECOND ISSUE.

THE FORCE DOING ALIGNMENT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR YEARS.

WHEN I MOVED OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I KNEW ABOUT THE 4TH STREET ALIGNMENT AND THE MASTER PLAN NOW HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR 25 YEARS.

THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN AWARE OF THIS PROJECT ONLY RECENTLY DUE TO NEW ARRIVALS ON 4TH STREET, PRIMARILY, OUR FRIENDS WHO LIVE ON 4TH STREET, IT HAS BEEN CITED TO SPEND MORE MONEY TO EXPLORE THIS NEW ALIGNMENT TO THE WEST.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS NEW ALIGNED WOULD NOT HAVE A CONNECTION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR YEARS IF IT EVER DOES.

THEREFORE, WE'LL BE DEALING WITH THE FLOODS, THE SNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH SINCE I MOVED OUT THERE 30 YEARS AGO, WITH NO PROMISE OF A POTENTIAL ROAD INTO OUR FORESTDALE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH DOZENS UPON DOZENS OF FAMILIES IN THERE AND GROWING EVERY DAY.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT TRAGEDY AND I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU AGAIN. COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.

>> THANK YOU, KEVIN. YOU PREFER WHAT'S LABELED AS THE YELLOW ROUTE, I'LL CALL IT.

>> THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.

>> YEAH. JUST FOR CURIOSITY, CAN YOU TELL ME APPROXIMATELY WHERE YOUR HOME IS ON THAT MAP?

>> IT'S ON MONROE STREET.

>> NO. I DON'T KNOW THE STREETS.

I'VE DRIVEN OUT THERE BUT I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW IT.

>> YES SO OFF A BUTLER, YOU TAKE HEROLD RANCH ROAD.

DAVE, CAN YOU HELP ME? I'M NOT SURE I COULD REALLY IDENTIFY THE GREEN SECTIONS ARE THOSE THE CITY SECTIONS?

>> THAT ONE IS COUNTY. [INAUDIBLE] MONROE.

>> SALMON MONROE.

>> THOSE ARE HERE.

>> MY HOUSE IS RIGHT ABOUT HERE ON MONROE.

>> RIGHT NOW, THAT'S A DIRT ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. ALPHA BUTLER HEROLD RANCH ROAD GOES THROUGH THE RIO DE FLAG, AND UP A VERY STEEP HILL TO GET TO SOUTH 4TH STREET, THE TOP OF SOUTH 4TH STREET, THEN THAT GOES DOWN SOUTH 4TH STREET GOES SOUTH OBVIOUSLY, AND THEN MONROE GOES TO THE EAST OFF OF THERE.

>> ALL RIGHT, SO YOU'RE HOPING THAT THAT CAN BECOME A PAVED, BETTER QUALITY, MODERN ROAD.

>> A CONNECTION LIKE IT WAS PROMISED 30 YEARS AGO.

>> I APPRECIATE YOUR EXTRA TIME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, JIM.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT INDIVIDUAL IS RYAN SOUTHWORTH.

>> MR. MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS RYAN SOUTHWORTH.

I'M AN EMERGENCY ROOM PHYSICIAN, ALSO AN AIR FORCE OFFICER.

MY PROPERTY IS OVER AT 2050 SOUTH RIVER VALLEY ROAD.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST STATE THAT RIGHT THERE.

IT'S RIGHT ALONG THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT THIS.

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH KEN ON THIS.

THIS HAS BEEN WELL-KNOWN ON THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT FOR A LONG TIME.

I WAS INVOLVED WITH ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS AND I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH ALL THE CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE REACHED OUT TO US AS PROPERTY OWNERS, HOMEOWNERS OUT THERE.

IT'S BEEN GREAT AS FAR AS THAT HAS BEEN CONCERNED.

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AS YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE LARGEST HERDS OF ELK ACTUALLY GRAZE IN THE RIVER VALLEY ROAD AND ACTUALLY COME UP THROUGH THE SOUTH SIDE RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY ALONG THE RIO DE FLAG.

THE RIO DE FLAG ACTUALLY RUNS RIGHT THROUGH MY FRONT YARD AND I'VE COUNTED UP TO 160 ELK INSIDE MY FRONT YARD BEFORE AND THEY WERE JUST THERE YESTERDAY, LITERALLY WANDERING THROUGH.

THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT, I WOULD BE AGAINST EVEN THOUGH IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE A NICE PAVED ROAD RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR PLACE, BUT I COULDN'T SUPPORT THAT.

THERE'S TOO MUCH WILDLIFE AT STAKE OUT THERE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

IT'S ESPECIALLY DISTURBING TO ME THAT AFTER 30 YEARS, LIKE HE SAID, THIS ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT AND EVERYBODY HAS BEEN DISCUSSING IT AND I EVEN HAD CONCERNS ABOUT MY WELL-WATERED BECAUSE BEING COUNTY WERE IN COCONINO COUNTY ALONG THOSE GREEN LINES THERE.

WE WERE ON WELL-WATERED.

WE'RE NOT ON CITY WATER AND WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT TO US.

PEAK ENGINEERING, THEY HAD SOME GOOD MEETINGS WITH US AND I THANK THEM FOR THEIR SUPPORT IN THAT TOO AND THEY PUT MY CONCERNS TO REST ABOUT THE WELL WATER THERE.

WITH THIS NEW ALIGNMENT, I HAVEN'T SEEN AN IMPACT REPORT.

THIS HAPPENED LITERALLY, WE WERE MADE KNOWN ABOUT THIS 12 DAYS AGO.

WE'VE HAD 30 YEARS OF ONE THING AND THEN SUDDENLY LIKE A BAIT AND SWITCH WHERE WE'RE LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO REDO THIS AND IT'S GOING TO GO RIGHT HERE AND WE'RE LIKE, WAIT A SECOND, WHAT ARE THE WILDLIFE IMPACT REPORTS? WHAT'S THE WATER QUALITY? LIKE YOU'RE BUILDING IT RIGHT THROUGH THE LOWEST PART OF THE FLOODPLAIN.

I JUST CAN'T SEE THAT BEING REASONABLE AT ALL, ESPECIALLY WITH 12 DAYS WHEN THIS HAS BEEN EXPRESSED FOR 30 YEARS.

AGAIN, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE TIME.

I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN THIS.

I DON'T NEED TO TAKE ALL YOUR TIME BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE GUYS HAVE HAD A LONG DAY AS WELL AS I'VE HAD A LONG DAY.

BUT THE ONLY OTHER THING I GOT TO SAY IS ALSO AS AN EMS PHYSICIAN EARLIER, THE NIMS STUFF, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

I KNOW THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY REALLY IMPORTANT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS BEING AN EMS PHYSICIAN AND TRAINING OUR AIR FORCE OFFICERS ON SOME OF THESE DISASTER RESPONSE.

GOT 10 SECONDS LEFT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, BUT PLEASE THE SALMON, THE ROAD.

THAT'S BAD. THE ORIGINAL, THAT'S GOOD.

>> THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. [LAUGHTER].

>> I LIKE THE SALMON.

>> NATALIE WEISMAN.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS NATALIE WEISMAN.

I LIVE ON RIVER VALLEY.

I WAS ACTUALLY BORN AND RAISED IN THAT VALLEY AND HAVE LIVED THERE MY WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE.

THAT ROAD PRETTY MUCH MEANS WHAT IT SAYS, RIVER VALLEY ROAD.

THERE'S A RIVER THAT RUNS STRAIGHT THROUGH THAT VALLEY, AND THAT ROAD SOMETIMES IT'S THERE, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT THERE DUE TO THE FLOODING.

AS HE MENTIONED, RIVER VALLEY, THE PORTION OF THE ROAD FOR THAT ALTERNATIVE ROUTE GOES THROUGH THE LOWEST POINT, THE SHALLOW POINT OF THE RIVER VALLEY OF THE RIO DE FLAG, RIGHT THERE IS PROBABLY ONLY AT MAX THREE FEET.

WHEN WE GET OUR MONSOONS THAT COME RIPPING INTO THE VALLEY, EVEN WITHOUT ALL THE FIRES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE FLOODING, THAT FIELD TURNS INTO A LAKE TO THE POINT THAT WE CAN'T EVEN GET TO OUR HOUSE.

WE HAVE KAYAKED ON THAT.

WE'VE ENTERED TUBE ON IT BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SUCH A LARGE QUANTITY OF WATER THAT LIVES IN THAT VALLEY ALONG WITH THE WILDLIFE THAT RELIES ON THAT SOURCE OF WATER.

THERE IS HUNDREDS OF ELK THAT CALL THAT VALLEY HOME AND IT'S YEAR-ROUND.

THEY DON'T MIGRATE, THEY BREED THERE, THEY RAISE THEIR CALVES AND THEY DON'T LEAVE.

ALONG WITH WE HAVE BALD EAGLES, RED TAIL HAWKS, BADGERS, PRAIRIE DOGS, COYOTES, FOX, MULE DEER.

THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT SPECIES THAT CALL THAT VALLEY HOME ALONG WITH ME.

THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT GOES STRAIGHT THROUGH THAT FLOOD ZONE.

IF YOU GUYS LOOK AT YOUR E-MAIL, I ACTUALLY SENT YOU GUYS A PRESENTATION WITH PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS TO DOCUMENT THE FLOODING AND THE WILDLIFE THAT LIVES THERE IN THE VALLEY.

IN THE LAST PART OF THAT PRESENTATION IS THE DOCUMENTATION OF FLOODING IN THE EXACT AREA WHERE THAT ALIGNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO GO, THE ALTERNATE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS COMPLETELY UNDERWATER.

IT'S NOT JUST A FEW FEET, IT'S HUNDREDS OF FEET.

THAT WHOLE ENTIRE FIELD TURNS INTO A LAKE.

IF YOU GUYS PULL THAT UP, IT GOT SENT TO YOUR E-MAIL.

I WISH THAT I COULD PRESENT IT TO YOU GUYS NOW.

BUT IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE OF THAT ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT BECAUSE IT GOES STRAIGHT THROUGH A FLOOD ZONE WHERE THE ORIGINAL ONE, YOU COULD COMPLETELY AVOID FLOODING IN GENERAL AND RISKING ALL OF THE ENDANGERMENT OF THE WILDLIFE LIVING IN THAT AREA. THANK YOU.

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>> THANK YOU. JAMES NEWBURY.

>> YES, I'M JAMES NEWBURY.

I OWN 1850 SOUTH RIVER VALLEY ROAD.

I WANT TO KNOW WHY WE CAME UP OR THE CITY CAME UP WITH THIS ALTERNATIVE ROUTE? I'M ASKING A QUESTION.

>> WELL, I CAN ANSWER THAT.

WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BACK IN OCTOBER, AND A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS WERE VERY CONCERNED WITH THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY WE'D BE TAKING OFF OF THE SMALL PLOT OWNERS' LAND BECAUSE WE WILL BE HAVING TO DECLARE EMINENT DOMAIN AND TAKE LARGE CHUNKS OF SOME PEOPLE'S LAND TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT THROUGH.

AT THAT TIME WE WERE IN DISCUSSIONS TO SEE WHAT OTHER ALTERNATIVES MIGHT EXIST.

>> WELL, THEY KNEW WHEN THEY BOUGHT THAT LAND THAT THIS WAS PROPOSED.

PROP 419 WAS VOTED FOR THROUGH 4TH STREET.

I THINK THERE'S A LEGAL ARGUMENT TO BE MADE FOR YOU GUYS TO CHANGE IT AFTER THE VOTERS HAVE APPROVED 4TH STREET.

THE OTHER THING WAS TERRIBLE.

I GOT THIS LETTER ON THURSDAY.

BEFORE THEN, THEY TALK ABOUT HOW THEY TALKED TO PROPERTY OWNERS.

I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ON THE RIVER VALLEY THAT THEY TALKED TO ABOUT THIS NEW ALIGNMENT.

THURSDAY, AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT? I MEAN, I'M SORRY, BUT I'M MAD.

YOU DIDN'T GIVE US ANY TIME.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDIES OR NOTHING.

I THINK THE CITY REALLY NEEDS TO STICK WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. DAVE CHEBIN.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

DAVE CHEBIN, A LONGTIME FLAGSTAFF RESIDENT IN [INAUDIBLE] GRADUATE AND A HOMEOWNER ON SOUTH RIVER VALLEY ROAD SINCE 1995.

OWNER OF TWO PARCELS AND THE OTHER TWO PARCELS BEING IN THE FAMILY ESTATE, WHICH I JUST RECENTLY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE COUNTY AND DIVIDING, WHERE THOSE TWO USED TO BE ONE, FOUR, AND A HALF, WITH THE GOAL OF GIVING EACH ONE OF THESE PARCELS TO CHILDREN THAT WERE BORN AND RAISED HERE ON THESE SAME PROPERTIES.

CHILDREN THAT ARE RESIDENTS OF FLAGSTAFF, THAT HAVE JOBS IN FLAGSTAFF, ONE BEING A PUBLIC SERVANT, A COP, A POLICE OFFICER OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, ALL WITH DREAMS OF LIVING RIGHT HERE, NOT NEXT TO THIS ROAD.

THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE WITH THE TWO PLANS IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT, ONE, LIKE JIM SAID, JUST LEARNING ABOUT THE ALTERNATE PLAN WITHIN THE LAST 10 DAYS, WHICH I NEVER EVEN RECEIVED ANY MAIL.

>> I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON RESIDENTS, WHEREAS THERE ARE ALTERNATE PLANS AVAILABLE THAT THE ROAD COULD BE PUT IN AREAS WHERE THERE ARE NOT ANY EXISTING HOMES OR EXISTING FAMILIES.

WHERE IF THE ROAD WERE BUILT FIRST IN OTHER LOCATIONS, THEN THEY KNOW THAT THAT ROAD IS THEIR FIRST.

WE'RE HERE, YOU'RE IMPACTING PEOPLE'S LIVES WHO'VE BEEN THERE SINCE, MYSELF, 1995, OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN THAT.

MUCH OF THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT, PRIOR TO SMART CITY INVOLVE FLOODING.

YOU'RE BUILDING A ROAD IN A FLOOD ZONE.

JUST LIKE THE OTHER RESIDENTS HAVE INDICATED, IT FLOODS THERE.

WE ALL HAVE VIDEO OF IT.

DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME TO BUILD A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THROUGH A FLOOD ZONE WITHOUT, LIKE JIM MENTIONED, SOME IMPACT STUDIES TO HAVE THIS THROWN IN OUR FACE IN 10 DAYS, MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL TO ME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. JUST TO CLARIFY, ARE YOU IN SUPPORT OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OR ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU DON'T LIKE EITHER ONE?

>> WELL, IF I COULD SHOW YOU WHICH I FEEL SHOULD BE DONE, THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT, IN MY OPINION, WOULD BRING THE ROAD WEST OF GIBSON AND EAST OF SYMMETRY HOMES WHERE THERE'S NO FAMILIES IMPACTED.

NOW, YOU'VE GOT A PLAN.

THIS SECTION THROUGH CANYON DEL RIO HAS BEEN PLANNED AND PLOTTED FOR YEARS.

JUST LIKE THIS SOUTH 4TH STREET EXTENSION HAS BEEN, LIKE JIM MENTIONED, 25, 30 YEARS.

CANYON DEL RIO IS FLOODED, AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS SUBDIVISION OR AN ALTERNATE PLAN SHOWS THAT GOING THROUGH THAT SUBDIVISION.

ALSO MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL TO ME.

IF IN FACT, YOU END UP DOING THAT,

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I DON'T WANT THE MEANS ARE CONSTRUCTION LIES, WHETHER THAT'S CULVERTS OR WHETHER THAT'S A BRIDGE, I DON'T KNOW. I'VE NEVER SEEN.

BUT EITHER WAY, WHETHER YOU CROSS HERE OR HERE, YOU'RE STILL GOING OVER THE RIO DE FLAG.

HERE YOU IMPACT NO EXISTING HOMES.

THIS ROUTE IMPACTS EXISTING HOMES, THIS ROUTE IMPACTS EXISTING HOMES AND FAMILIES.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.

>> JOAN ABBOTT?

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MAYOR.

[NOISE] I DID OWE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID HERE.

HEROLD RANCH ROAD IS REALLY DANGEROUS IN THE WINTERTIME.

PEOPLE PARK THEIR CARS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND I'D GUESS THEY WALK THROUGH THE WATER TO GET HOME.

BUT IT IS A TRAFFIC HAZARD WHEN PEOPLE CAN'T GET THROUGH THAT RIVER AND HAVING AN ALTERNATIVE WAY.

I AM IN FAVOR OF THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT BECAUSE THERE'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THAT TERRIBLE ROAD THAT MAYBE YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

BUT IT OFTEN, I MEAN, SOME YEARS IT'LL FLOOD FOUR OR FIVE TIMES, THEN WE'LL GO TWO OR THREE YEARS WITHOUT FLOODING.

BUT IT HAS FLOODED AN AVERAGE OF ONCE A YEAR OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED OUT THERE.

I LIVE ON RIVER VALLEY ROAD, AND I OWN TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY.

ONE IS IN THE CITY, SO I'M ONE OF THE LITTLE LONG RECTANGULAR, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.

I OWN THIS PIECE HERE AND THEN MY HOME IS RIGHT HERE.

I HAVE BUILT MY BACKYARD, WHICH WOULD BE 50 FEET.

IT APPEARS TO BE 50-100 FEET FROM THIS MASSIVE ROAD.

I BUILT IT AS MY OWN PERSONAL PARADISE.

I DO SHARE IT, I HAVE MEMORIAL SERVICES THERE AND HOSPICE CARE.

PEOPLE COME TO HAVE RELAXATION THERE.

THIS IS A HUGE RIPARIAN AREA AND ANIMAL CORRIDOR.

THE WILDLIFE IS OUTRAGEOUS BACK IN HERE, SO IT'D BE A HUGE IMPACT ON THE ANIMALS.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

THERE IS AN ENDANGERED SPECIES OR IT'S CONSIDERED A SENSITIVE PLANT ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES THAT WHICH IS THE ARIZONA CLEMATIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED HERE, THAT YOU'VE HAD AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT.

WE'RE ALL SHOCKED THAT YOU WOULD DO THIS SO QUICKLY.

I JUST WANT TO ALSO ADD THAT I HAPPEN TO HAVE HEARD, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE, THAT THE OWNER OF PEAK DESIGN HAPPENS TO LIVE ON 4TH STREET.

WE'RE ALL WONDERING WHY IT'S SUDDENLY CHANGED.

WHY YOU SUDDENLY CHANGE THE PLAN THAT WE BOUGHT, I COULD HAVE BOUGHT ON 4TH STREET.

I KNEW ABOUT IT, SO I BUILT MY LITTLE WONDERLAND AS FAR AWAY FROM 4TH STREET TRAFFIC SOUND AS I COULD BE, AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE 20 FEET AWAY FROM WHERE I RELAX.

[NOISE] I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THE NEW ALIGNMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ORIGINAL ONES STUCK WITH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> OH, AND I WANTED TO COMMENT.

THE TERM SMART CITY IS ONE THAT MAKES USE OF ROADS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE.

THEY PUT ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RIPARIAN AREA.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS MAKE THE ONE YOU ALREADY HAVE BETTER.

>> THANK YOU JOAN [APPLAUSE]. RICK NATENBERG.

>> MR. MAYOR, MS. VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I AM RICK NATENBERG.

I LIVE AT 2150 SOUTH RIVER VALLEY ROAD.

I'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY OUT THERE SINCE 1981.

SEEN A FEW CHANGES.

IN 2018, THE VOTERS DID APPROVE 419.

IT WAS A SPECIFIC ALIGNMENT.

IT EVEN HAD AN ATTACHMENT ON THE PROPOSITION SHOWING THE ALIGNMENT AT THE TIME.

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LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID, THIS NEW ALIGNMENT SEEMS TO BE JAMMED THROUGH PRETTY QUICKLY.

THERE WAS COMMON NOW IT'S THAT 4TH STREET WAS GOING TO BE HOOKED UP WITH THE EXTENSION OF J.W.

POWELL PRIOR TO 2018, BUT EVEN IF YOU JUST LOOK AT 2018, THERE WERE 12 PARCEL PURCHASES FROM 2018 ALONG THE 4TH STREET ALIGNMENT.

THAT'S 12 PARCELS OUT OF 19 TOTAL PARCELS ON THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.

THOSE OWNERS, IF THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE.

IF THEY DID DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN THE ALIGNMENT WAS COMING DOWN 4TH STREET.

THEY EITHER SHRUGGED IT OFF OR THEY THOUGHT WE WILL WAIT, AND MAYBE AS IT GETS CLOSER, TRY AND PRESSURE THE COUNCIL INTO CHANGING THE ALIGNMENT AFTER THE FACT.

IT DOES SEEM AS THOUGH THESE 19 CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY OWNERS WAITED UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE TO GO ON AND EXERCISE THEIR OPINION.

I WOULD SAY FOR MR. PETERSON, HE ONLY SHOWED THE PROS ON THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT, AND NOTHING HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE FLOODING.

THIS IS NOT A FLOODPLAIN.

THIS IS A FLOODWAY.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTROLS WHAT IS ALLOWED IN FLOOD-WAYS AND IN FACT, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED ANY WATER OBSTACLES.

WE'RE TALKING A BRIDGE.

MR. PETERSON SAID IT WOULD SAVE MONEY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BRIDGE, 300 FEET OF FLOOD-WAY, AND THEN CLIMBING THE ESCARPMENT OF LITTLE AMERICA'S LAND ON THE EAST SIDE.

TO ME, THAT SEEMS AN ADDITIONAL UNNECESSARY EXPENSE AND LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, WHAT'S THE HURRY WITH THIS THING? WHY DID IT GET JAMMED THROUGH IN EIGHT MONTHS AFTER ALL THESE YEARS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU RICK. MAURICE FESSLER.

>> MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M MAURICE FESSLER.

I LIVE ON 701 SOUTH 4TH STREET.

I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN 2001.

ACTUALLY LET ME BACKUP.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATE-NIGHT EMAIL IF YOU GOT IT LAST NIGHT.

WHEN I SAID IN AN E-MAIL THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST THAT I'VE REALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS, EVEN THOUGH I'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR SINCE 2001.

ANYTHING THAT MR. PETERSON'S TEAM HAS DONE, BUT IT'S TAKEN THERE HAS BEEN SOME, [NOISE] WE'LL CALL IT GLITCH AND I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS.

I HAVEN'T HAD A ONE-ON-ONE.

I HAVEN'T HAD ANY INFORMATION GIVEN TO ME.

I'VE BEEN INVITED IN THE OPEN HOUSES, ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS SO.

LIKE I SAID, I BOUGHT IN 2001, I TOOK THE REGIONAL PLAN AT THAT TIME, I LOOKED AT IT, I STUDIED IT.

I LOOKED AT THE ROAD.

I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THE ROAD WAS COMING THROUGH.

I PLANNED EVERYTHING THAT I WAS DOING WHEN I BUILT MY HOUSE BY HAND, BASED ON THAT ROAD COMING THROUGH.

I BUILT MY HOUSE 400 FEET OFF THE ROAD, INTENDING FOR THE ROAD TO COME THROUGH.

EVERY DECISION THAT I'VE MADE ON THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN WAITING FOR THAT ROAD, WAITING TO GET SERVICES FROM THE CITY, WAITING TO GET A PAVED ROAD, WATER SEWER OR WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE.

SHE TALKED ABOUT A SMART CITY.

IT'S A DUMB CITY OUT THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

I BARELY HAVE DIAL-UP SPEED OUT THERE.

WE'RE NEVER GOING TO HAVE FIBER.

I'M AN IT GUY SO I GEEKED OUT WHEN CJ WAS TALKING ABOUT IT. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO SEE THAT.

THE OTHER THING, WE PAY CITY TAXES, WE GET NO SERVICES.

IF THIS NEW ALIGNMENT GOES THROUGH, THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING FOR WHAT WE PAY.

I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH EVERY ITEM ON MY EMAIL THAT I SENT YOU GUYS BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU GUYS COULD READ IT BEFORE MAKING A DECISION.

THE THINGS THAT I'M HOPING TO GET OUT OF THIS TODAY, IS ONE, THAT WE STAY WITH A LONG-TERM PLAN THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN BUILDING TOWARDS, WE'VE BEEN PLANNING TOWARDS.

IT'S BEEN IN THE PLAN, IT'S BEEN VOTED ON,

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I SUGGEST THAT WE POSTPONE OF THE VOTE TONIGHT AND WAIT UNTIL ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT EVERYBODY'S BROUGHT UP HAS BEEN STUDIED.

THE FLOODS, THE WILDLIFE, ALL OF THAT STUFF HASN'T BEEN STUDIED AS FAR AS I KNOW.

I HAVEN'T HEARD IT ANYWHERE AND I THINK SOMEBODY ELSE SAID, IT FEELS LIKE THIS HAS BEEN PUSHED THROUGH.

THE FIRST THING I SAW WHEN WE WERE DOING THE CHANGE ORDER, WHEN I WATCHED THE VIDEO THE OTHER DAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING $115,000 AND ADDING 540 DAYS.

WE'RE 200 DAYS INTO THAT 540 AND NOW WE'RE MAKING A FINAL DECISION.

DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [NOISE]

>> THANK YOU MAURICE. ED FARNAM.

>> THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ED FARNAM.

I OWN ACTUALLY TWO PROPERTIES DOWN THERE, WE DID A SPLIT.

I BOUGHT THESE PROPERTIES IN 1994, IT WAS ONE PROPERTY THEN, 28 YEARS I BUILT OUR HOUSE PERSONALLY IN 2001, 2002, AND BACK IN '94.

SINCE THEN WE'VE ALWAYS HEARD ABOUT THIS 4TH STREET EXTENSION GOING THROUGH AND I PLANNED ON IT, EMBRACED IT, AND LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

I'VE RIDDEN MY MOUNTAIN BIKE ON THE ENTIRE ROUTE MANY, MANY TIMES.

IT'S A FANTASTIC, BEAUTIFUL ROUTE, IT'S HIGH GROUND.

IT HAS ONLY, AS FAR AS I KNOW, ONE SIGNIFICANT BRIDGE DOWN NEAR BUTLER.

I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD SAYING I'M STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT, THE YELLOW ROUTE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. KYLE MAYCUMBER.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

I WAS BACK HERE IN OCTOBER LAST YEAR. MY NAME IS KYLE.

I LIVE WITH MY WIFE AND KIDS ON THIS CORNER PARCEL.

IT IS ON THAT TREACHEROUSLY STEEP ROAD THAT EVERYBODY IS REFERRING TO.

THAT HILL RUNS RIGHT NEXT TO MY PROPERTY.

THERE ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE IN THE DITCH.

[NOISE] I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE WINTER PULLING PEOPLE OUT.

I GUESS I'M SAYING THAT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT EVERYBODY HERE HAS A PERSONAL STAKE IN THE GAME.

EVERYBODY HERE IS FEELING VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS, AND THEY SHOULD.

PEOPLE THAT ARE REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT ARE OWNERS OF PERSONAL PROPERTY.

WHAT HAPPENS TO THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTY IS VERY MEANINGFUL AND IMPACTFUL.

I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS TO ACKNOWLEDGE IN THE FIRST PLACE, THE FACT THAT THERE WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION AND A REVIEW OF THE PLAN TO CONSIDER ALTERNATE OPTIONS IS COMMENDABLE, THAT PEOPLE AREN'T RAILROADED OR RAMRODDED AND JUST IGNORED WITH THEIR CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO PERSONAL PROPERTY.

THAT'S VERY COMMENDABLE.

EVEN DAVID PETERSON'S PRESENTATION EARLY ON WITH REGARD TO THE PROPOSED REPROPOSAL, WHERE HE REFERRED TO THEM AS BOOKENDS, THAT ALIGNMENT WOULD AVOID A LOT OF THOSE PROPERTIES IN THE RIVER VALLEY THERE.

I THINK ALSO THERE'S BEEN OTHER GOOD ARGUMENTS MADE WITH REGARD TO THE FACT THAT THIS VOTE DOES SEEM A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE, AND MAYBE WE HAVE ARRIVED AT A CONCLUSION.

I THINK ANOTHER JUST VERY SURPRISING HAPPY THING IS THAT THE LARGE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE CONSIDERING ALTERNATIVES TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

THAT'S VERY CONSIDERATE AND IT MAY BE FINANCIALLY MOTIVATED, BUT THAT'S BUSINESS, AND THEY'RE PEOPLE TOO.

I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, AND I WOULD ASK PLEASE THAT WE DO TAKE THE TIME THAT WAS VOTED ON IN OCTOBER, THAT WE DO SPEND THE MONEY THAT WAS VOTED ON IN OCTOBER, AND CONTINUE THIS INVESTIGATION AND SEE IF IT HAPPENED ONCE, MAYBE THERE IS A BETTER SOLUTION, ONE MORE REVISIT TO THE AGENDA BEFORE IT IS ACTED ON.

I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, KYLE. COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, ARE YOU SUPPORTING THE YELLOW ROUTE, THE SALMON ROUTE, OR ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE MAY BE LOOK AT A THIRD ALTERNATIVE ROUTE?

>> THE UNFORTUNATE NATURE OF THIS IS THAT IT PITS NEIGHBOR AGAINST NEIGHBOR.

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THE ROAD THAT IS PROPOSED, WE ARE TOLD IN NON-UNCERTAIN TERMS IN JANUARY OF 2021 THAT IT WILL BE EVENTUALLY FOUR LANES, THAT IT WILL TAKE OVER 110 FEET AND 55 OF THAT WILL COME OUT OF MY YARD.

I'M LOSING OVER A QUARTER OF MY PROPERTY.

THE ROAD, AS IT'S BEEN DESIGNED, WILL BE SOME 30 FEET ABOVE MY FRONT DOOR AND MY GARAGE, INSTEAD OF CUTTING OUT THE HILL IN FRONT OF IT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS.

WE'VE BEEN TOLD REPEATEDLY THAT IT'S TOO COSTLY TO TIE INTO THE WATER AND THE SEWER AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO COME THROUGH MY PROPERTY, THAT MY PROPERTY WILL BE TAKEN FROM ME IF IT ISN'T SOLD.

THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO CITY SERVICES, THAT THE COST OF DOWNSIZING A PIPE TO A PRIVATE RESIDENCE SERVICE IS TOO COSTLY FOR EACH OF THOSE PARCELS.

I'M LOOKING AT LOSING PROPERTY, NOT GETTING CITY SERVICES, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY'S ROAD IS RUNNING RIGHT THROUGH MY PROPERTY.

THERE'S A LOT TO DISCUSS.

THERE'S A LOT TO TALK OVER.

I DON'T WANT TO VOTE IN FAVOR, I DON'T WANT TO THROW MY WEIGHT IN FAVOR OF THE ORANGE ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT BECAUSE OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO MEAN FOR MY NEIGHBORS WHO ARE ESTABLISHED THERE AND THIS WASN'T PART OF THEIR PLAN.

BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THAT THE ORANGE ALIGNMENT IF WE DON'T FIND A DIFFERENT SOLUTION, I UNDERSTAND LOOKING AT THIS PLAN THAT THAT ORANGE ALIGNMENT, THAT NEW ALIGNMENT IS GOING TO BE FAR CHEAPER, FAR FASTER TO BUILD AND PUT THROUGH THAN THE YELLOW ONE.

THEN I'LL FIGHT. I'M GOING TO FIGHT.

WHATEVER IT'S WORTH, WHATEVER IT GETS ME, I'M GOING TO FIGHT.

MY SUGGESTION TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION POINTEDLY AFTER BEATING AROUND THE BUSH IS THAT WE DO EXPLORE THE BOOKENDS PROPOSAL THAT WAS GIVEN TO US IN OCTOBER, THAT THERE WAS ROUTE 1, ROUTE 2 OPTION.

I UNDERSTAND THAT COULD BE DIFFICULT FOR SYMMETRY AND LITTLE AMERICA TO ARRIVE AT A CONCLUSION THAT'S FAVORABLE FOR THEM FINANCIALLY ALSO BUT A THIRD OPTION IS TO MOVE THAT ROAD FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RIVER VALLEY.

AS FAR AS WILDLIFE, IF YOU PUT THE ROAD IN THE RED, YOU PUT THE ROAD IN THE YELLOW, ALL THOSE ELK ARE GOING AWAY NO MATTER WHAT.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER.

>> JOANNE MILLER.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE-MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JOANNE MILLER.

I LIVE ON 2100 SOUTH RIVER VALLEY ROAD.

MY HUSBAND BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY WHILE GETTING HIS DEGREE AT NAU IN 1978, WHEN THEY FIRST WERE DIVIDING UP THE HISTORICAL HEROLD RANCH, AND HE MET FELIX HAROLD.

HE WAS TOLD THEN THAT 4TH STREET WOULD IN THE FUTURE BE CONNECTING BEHIND THE HEROLD RANCH AND THAT IT WILL BE CONNECTING TO THE AIRPORT AT LAKE MARY ROAD.

I MOVED TO FLAGSTAFF IN 1975 AND MOVED TO RIVER VALLEY IN 1983.

I NAMED THE ROAD RIVER VALLEY WITH MY NEIGHBOR AT THE TIME, BECKY PERL IN 1990.

THAT AREA 4TH STREET WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WAS FOREST SERVICE UNTIL THE CITY DID A LAND SWAP.

WHEN THEY PUT THAT ROAD IN THROUGH THERE, THE 4TH STREET THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I WAS TOLD THAT THE CITY'S PLAN WAS TO EXTEND 4TH STREET THROUGH THERE.

HOMEOWNERS WHO BOUGHT THERE WERE AWARE THAT THAT ROAD WAS PLANNED AS AN ARTERIAL ROAD.

THE RIO DE FLAG IS A RIPARIAN AREA.

I HAVE COUNTED OVER 180 ELK IN THERE AT ONE TIME.

THEY OUT-GRAZE AND PASS THROUGH THERE REGULARLY.

THEY HAVE BEEN GRAZING IN THAT VALLEY BEFORE THERE WAS A FLAGSTAFF YEAR-AROUND.

THE GEESE MIGRATE AND LIVE THERE DURING THE WINTER.

EAGLES, HAWKS, OSPREY HUNT IN THE VALLEY.

LATELY, BLUE HERONS HAVE BEEN RETURNING.

WHEN I FIRST MOVED THERE, THERE WERE WILD TURKEYS.

THEY'RE NO LONGER THERE, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN FOR 30 YEARS.

THE ALTERNATIVE PROPOSED JW POWELL BOULEVARD IS IN A FLOOD ZONE.

SINCE THE CITY HAS BEEN GROWING AND WATER RUNOFF HAS INCREASED,

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WHEN I FIRST MOVED OUT THERE, IT ONLY FLOODED IN THE SPRING, NOW IT FLOODS WHENEVER WE GET A GOOD RAIN AND SNOW MELT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THE WATER IS KNEE-HIGH, MY FRONT YARD TURNS INTO A LAKE.

WHEN MY KIDS WERE YOUNG, I HAD TO BACKPACK THEM OUT, TAKE MY BOAT, CROSS THE RIVER, GET ON THE ROAD TO TAKE THEM TO SCHOOL.

AS FLAG CONTINUES TO GROW, THIS AREA IS GOING TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN.

IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER TO PRESERVE THIS AREA, HAVE IT BE A GREEN ZONE FOR THE PUBLIC TO ENJOY.

PROPOSING TO BUILD A ROAD UP SIX FEET AND PUT A CULVERT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE RIO DE FLAG RIPARIAN AREA FOREVER.

>> THANK YOU, JOANNE. JUST TO CONFIRM, YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE ORIGINAL PATH?

>> YES. I'VE BEEN TOLD MANY TIMES IT'S BEEN IN THE PLAN FOR PROBABLY 40 YEARS, SO YES.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. PETER BERGER.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS APPRECIATE YOU HAVING ME HERE TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS PETER BERGER, I'M PRESIDENT OF SYMMETRY COMPANIES.

WE DID ACQUIRE THE STATE TRUST LAND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CAPSTONE HOMES FROM THE STATE LAND AUCTION BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2020.

WE ARE ALSO THE DEVELOPER OF PINE CANYON AND THE OWNER OF THE PINE CANYON CLUB AND I THINK OUR EFFORTS HERE AND FIRST, LET ME START BY SAYING, I DON'T ENVY YOUR POSITION AND I CERTAINLY HEAR A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND TRYING TO FIND THE BEST ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION FOR JOHN WESLEY POWELL.

SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS WITH JOINT LANDOWNERS, THE REAL EFFORT WAS TO ULTIMATELY MAYBE FIND COMMON MINDED LANDOWNERS THAT WE ARE OKAY PROVIDING RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WOULDN'T TAKE AWAY OR REQUIRE CONDEMNATION FROM OTHER MEMBERS, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT MR. MAYOR AT THE BEGINNING, THAT'S WHAT STIMULATED THAT.

I THINK THERE'S A REALLY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY WHERE YOU DO HAVE A CONSENSUS OF LARGER LANDOWNERS THAT WOULD SUPPORT THIS ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT THAT WORKS, I THINK IT'S ALSO AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION TO MAYBE POINT OUT WHERE THE ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT IS GOING A LITTLE BIT MORE NORTH-SOUTH, THAT WAS ALSO PROPOSED TO BE A COLLECTOR ROADS, SO IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS PUTTING A ROAD WHERE A ROAD WASN'T GOING TO BE, IT'S JUST A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT RIGHT AWAY SECTION FOR JOHN WESLEY POWELL VERSUS A COLLECTOR ROAD AND I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHETHER JOHN WESLEY GOES THROUGH THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT OR THE PROPOSED ALIGNMENT, IT STILL CROSSES THE RIO TO FLAG SO I THINK ALL THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, A WILDLIFE CROSSING OF THE RIO TO FLAG ARE ALL IMPORTANT AND OBVIOUSLY NEED TO BE HANDLED VERY CAREFULLY WITH THE RIGHT STUDIES AND ALL THAT AND I THINK THE COMMITMENT THERE IS FOR ALL THAT, SO IT'S NOT LIKE PADDING A CROSSING, IT WOULDN'T BE THERE IF IT WASN'T THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENTS SO DON'T ENVY YOUR POSITION, I SUPPORT THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT, I THINK IT'S UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THAT HOPEFULLY WE WON'T BE TALKING ABOUT 30 YEARS FROM NOW.

THIS ROAD EVENTUALLY GOING IN, I THINK THERE'S A COMMON AGREEMENT AMONGST WHETHER IT'S JUNIPER POINT SUPPORT SYMMETRY, GIBSON, NAU, LITTLE AMERICA, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM BUT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATION IN CANYON DEL RIO THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT THIS ALIGNMENT THAT WILL ALLOW THIS TO GET IN.

I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR SAFETY CONCERNS TO GET THE CONNECTIVITY FOR CIRCULATION, FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

ALSO THINK, AS YOU LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND GETTING THESE ROADS AND FOR THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT AS THE COMMUNITY GROWS.

INFLATIONARY COSTS SO TIMING, IT'S BEEN ON THE MAP FOR QUITE A WHILE BUT IT DOES THE SOONER THE ROAD COULD GET IN, I THINK THE COMMUNITY GETS THE BENEFIT AND I DO CERTAINLY WANT TO LISTEN TO THE NEIGHBORS TOO AND THEIR CONCERNS, SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY HAS A QUESTION.

YEAH, YOU'RE DONE MCCARTHY.

>> WAS THAT FOR ME? [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

I'LL PROBABLY TALK TO STAFF ABOUT THIS LITTLE LATER WHEN IT BECOMES APPROPRIATE.

WOULD YOU BE OPEN-MINDED ABOUT IT OR DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT A ROUTE THAT WOULD BE TO THE WEST OF BOTH OF THE ROUTES THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE MAP? SOMETHING THAT MIGHT GO THROUGH CEMETERIES LAND, MAYBE GO NORTH OF THE GIBSON PIECE.

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>> WE DID STUDY THAT, I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT.

WE HAVE STAY, WE'VE DONE HIGH LEVEL STUDIES FROM A LAND PLANNING PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.

THE OTHER TWO ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENTS, I THINK WE SAW THAT MAYBE MOVED A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE WEST, I BELIEVE THERE.

FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THOSE CREATE REAL DEVELOPMENT CHALLENGES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT TOPO CHALLENGES, SOME OF THE CROSSING WHEN WE STUDIED IT, WE FEEL LIKE THIS ALIGNMENT OR SOME SLIGHT VERSION OF THIS REALLY MAKES THE MOST SENSE FROM HOW YOU IMPACT WHERE YOU CROSS THE RIO DEL FLAG AND THE FUTURE PLANNING AT THE 400, SO WE SUPPORT THIS, BUT WE WEREN'T IN SUPPORT OF THOSE OTHER TWO ALIGNMENTS.

>> THE OTHER TWO ALIGNMENTS ARE PROBLEMATIC FOR US.

>> IT IS YES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER?

>> THANK YOU.

>> BRIAN RETUM.

>> BRIAN RETUM WITH CAPSTONE HOMES, I ALSO OWN CANYON DEL RIO, PARTNERS AT SYMMETRY AND THEN AT JUNIPER POINT ALSO.

WHEN WE WERE FIRST PRESENTED THIS CANYON DEL RIO WASN'T PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

CANYON DEL RIO AS BEEN SAID, WAS PLANNED IN THE '80S AND THE CITY NEVER LOOKED AT IT AS THE ABILITY TO CROSS CANYON DEL RIO.

AFTER I PURCHASED CANYON DEL RIO, THE CITY CAME TO US AND SAID, "HEY, WE HAVE SOME REAL IMPACTS ON FORESTRY SOUTH.

COULD WE GO THROUGH CANYON DEL RIO? WE HAVE A PLAT LIKE WAS STATED.

WE HAVE OUR ZONING WHERE DEVELOPING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

OUT OF ANY PARCEL UP THERE THAT'S IMPACTED, I THINK CANYON DEL RIO HAS IMPACTED THE MOST." WE LOOKED AT IT AND REALLY STUDIED WHAT THE REGIONAL PLAN SHOWED AND WE NOTICED THAT THE REGIONAL PLAN SHOWED A COLLECTOR ALONG THE NORTH-SOUTH ALIGNMENT WEST OF RIVER VALLEY RIGHT THERE, SO IT SHOWED A CROSSING THERE AND IT SHOWED A CROSSING TO THE WEST AS A COLLECTOR AND THEN IT SHOWED HEROLD RANCH ROAD CROSSING AND IT SHOWED THE CROSSING ON THE BRIGHTON PROPERTY WHERE ON THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT, WE HAVE STUDIED WILDLIFE, WE STUDIED DRAINAGE, FLOODING, EVERYTHING.

I THINK THAT WHAT'S LOST IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT THE CITY DID THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE LOOKED AT IS I DON'T THINK IT'S A ZERO SOME GAME WHERE WE'RE SAYING, "HEY, CANYON DEL RIO IS OKAY, AND IT'S COME TO TERMS WITH JOHN WESLEY POWELL CROSSING IT AND ACCOMMODATING THAT." BRIGHTON STILL NEEDS ACCESS TO PROPERTY.

THEY'RE STILL GOING TO NEED A PAVED ROAD TO THEIR PROPERTY AND THE MULTIPLE OWNERS ON THE 427 ARE STILL GOING TO NEED A PAVED ROAD, BUT IT'S A LOT EASIER TO GET A LOCAL PAVED ROAD TO SERVE THOSE 107 PARCELS IN THERE THAN A MINOR ARTERIAL UP AND DOWN THE ESCARPMENT ON THE 4TH STREET SOUTH ALIGNMENT.

BY DOING THIS ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT, WE ARE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE TRAFFIC SCHEME THAT ALLOWED, STILL PAVED ACCESS AND EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE BUILT AND SAFE ACCESS, NOT HEROLD RANCH ROAD ACCESS ACROSS THE RIO TO THE MULTIPLE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT STILL COMES OFF AT CANYON DEL RIO AND IT GOES TO BRIGHTON AND REPLACING THE COLLECTOR THAT HAD TO HAPPEN THERE ON THE ALIGNMENT, THE NORTH-SOUTH ALIGNMENT WITH THE ARTERIAL BECAUSE LITTLE AMERICA ON THE SYMMETRY COMPANIES GIBSON ACTUALLY HAS THE PROPERTY TO GIVE FOR THAT ARTERIAL STREET SECTION, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A ZERO-SUM GAME WITH ALL THE OWNERS IN HERE.

OBVIOUSLY, LIKE PETER SAID, THERE'S A HUGE TOPO PROBLEM CROSSING ON THE MORE WESTERLY CROSSINGS THAT WHEN WE STUDY THOSE.

ACTUALLY ON THE FLOOD-WAY WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING IT IS THE MOST NARROW CROSSING ON THE FLOOD-WAY IN THAT SECTION UNTIL YOU CROSS A 100' CANYON CLOSER TO [INAUDIBLE] SO THAT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT, I THINK THERE'S OBVIOUSLY WE CAN MASSAGE ALONG THERE TO LESSEN THE IMPACT BUT WE SUPPORT

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>> SORRY, IT'S ALREADY WELL OVER.

I WANT TO HEAR IT OUT, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S JUST THREE MINUTES PER PARTICIPANT.

APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTARY.

>> YOU BET.

>> THANKS.

>> KRISTI MCAMBER.

>> I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO MOVE THE MAP.

IT'S STILL OUR PROPERTY.

I'M KRISTI MCAMBER. THANK YOU FOR HEARING US. MY HUSBAND IS KYLE.

MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE SAVED FOR YEARS TO BUILD OUR HOME AND WE'VE PERFORMED 70 PERCENT OF THE CONSTRUCTION OURSELVES AND WE DID THAT FOR OUR CHILDREN.

THEY HAVE A SAFE PLACE RIGHT NOW TO DRIVE DOWN THE DRIVEWAY ON THEIR BIKES.

IN THE WINTERTIME YOU'LL OFTEN SEE US SLIDING DOWN BECAUSE IT'S PERFECT FOR SLIDING, NOT NECESSARY FOR DRIVING, BUT PERFECT FOR SLIDING.

>> CAN YOU MOVE CLOSER TO THE MIC PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU. SHOULD I REPEAT ALL THAT? I'LL BE FAST.

MY HUSBAND AND I SAVED FOR YEARS TO BUILD OUR HOUSE.

WE'VE BUILD 70 PERCENT OF IT OURSELVES.

WE BUILT FOR OUR KIDS.

YOU'LL OFTEN SEE THEM DRIVING DOWN THE DRIVEWAY ON THEIR BIKES OR SLIDING IN THE WINTERTIME.

PERFECT FOR SLIDING, NOT FOR DRIVING.

ANYHOW, THE REASON WE DID IT IS FOR SAFETY.

MY CONCERN IS THAT IF WE HAVE A COMPLEX, MULTI-LENGTH THOROUGHFARE RUNNING THERE AND MY CHILDREN'S FRONT YARD, THEIR SAFETY IS NOW AT RISK.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WITH FAMILIES, I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER HOW YOU MIGHT FEEL IN A SIMILAR SITUATION.

MY MOST IMPORTANT JOB AS A MOM IS THE SAFETY OF MY KIDS.

I DON'T WANT TO PICK AN ALIGNMENT.

OBVIOUSLY, THE YELLOW ONE TAKES AN ACRE OF MY PROPERTY AND THE SAFETY OF MY CHILDREN.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE I KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU GUYS FEEL.

IT'S A VERY HEART WRENCHING DECISION AND I DON'T WANT TO PIN THAT ON YOU.

I WOULD OBVIOUSLY PICK AN ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT OUT OF THEM.

I KNOW MAYBE IT'S NOT FEASIBLE, BUT I AM HERE FOR YOU GUYS AND I HEARD YOU AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

>> THANK YOU CHRISTIE. CHRISTINA TALLEY.

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I'M CHRISTINA TALLEY AND I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO KYLE AND CHRISTIE, RIGHT THERE ON SOUTH 4TH STREET.

YOUR COLLECTIVE WISDOM IN LEADERSHIP RESULTED IN ADDITIONAL FUNDS BEING ALLOCATED TO INVESTIGATING ALTERNATIVE ROUTES.

THERE WERE GOOD REASONS FOR DOING SO BACK THEN AND THOSE REASONS ARE STILL VALID.

I BELIEVE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM HAS BROUGHT UP REALLY REALLY GOOD POINTS.

THE IMPACT TO EXISTING HOMEOWNERS IS HUGE AND IN SOME CASES CAN BE DEVASTATING TO PRIVATE PROPERTY AND FAMILIES.

WILDLIFE ISSUE IS A REAL ONE FOR ANY ALIGNMENT.

THERE IS ELK THROUGH THERE AND THE BUILDING IS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY, ROAD OR NOT, THE HOUSES ARE GOING TO CLEAR OUT THE WILDLIFE EVENTUALLY.

IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT WE SHOULD HAVE ALL BEEN AWARE, THOSE OF US THAT HAVE HOUSES ON 4TH STREET OF THE ROAD COMING THROUGH AND WE WERE BUT NOT THE LARGE ARTERIAL THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED, 45-MILE AN HOUR FOUR-LANE ROAD THAT WAS NOT PRESENTED TO ME WHEN I BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY.

IF THERE'S A WAY TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO EXISTING HOMES AND ROUTE THE ROAD THROUGH UNDEVELOPED LAND INSTEAD, I URGE YOU TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THAT.

IT SEEMS TO MAKE MORE SENSE TO PUT IT IN THE ROAD FIRS, BUILD HOUSES AROUND IT, THAN TO TRY TO RETROFIT A ROAD THROUGH AN EXISTING, ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU CHRISTINA. ANDREW RICHARDSON.

>> I'M HOPING MY VOICE DOESN'T CRACK FROM SITTING THERE FOR FOUR HOURS NOT SAYING ANYTHING.

BUT THANK YOU MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS ANDREW RICHARDSON AND I LIVE ON SOUTH 4TH STREET WITH MY WIFE, OUR EIGHT-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER AND SOME PET CHICKENS.

I THINK THIS IS US RIGHT HERE ACROSS FROM THE MAYCUMBERS AND JUST UP FROM CHRIS TALLEY.

LAST FALL I SPOKE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING IN FAVOR OF CONSIDERING ALTERNATIVE ROUTES FOR THE JW POWELL EXTENSION.

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WE ALSO HAD HUGE SAFETY CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH A LOT OF HIGH-SPEED VEHICLE TRAFFIC RUNNING RIGHT PAST OUR HOUSE AND ALSO ISSUES OF SUSTAINABILITY AND CHALLENGES OF FLAGSTAFF MEETING ITS CLIMATE ACTION PLAN OBJECTIVES INCLUDING REDUCED GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.

I'M AN ECOLOGIST AND ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST AND I UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS OF THE RIVER VALLEY ROAD RESIDENTS.

I LOVE THE BIRDS AND THE LARGE MAMMALS WE REGULARLY SEE.

I HATE TO THINK WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE HERDS OF ELK, WHICH WE SEE AT OUR HOUSE TOO, THOUGH, THEY'RE NOT JUST DOWN IN THE VALLEY.

I HATE TO THINK WHAT WOULD HAPPENED TO THOSE ELK IF A ROAD LIKE THIS IS BUILT.

TO BE HONEST, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS ROAD NOT BE BUILT AT ALL ALONG ANY ALIGNMENT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT MY NEIGHBORS ON SOUTH 4TH STREET, ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF DO NOT WANT TO GIVE UP OUR LAND, OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY, SO THAT THIS MAJOR ROAD CAN BE BUILT ALONG THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.

IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME WHY A ROAD THAT WILL BRING A HUGE FINANCIAL WINDFALL TO DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE FORCED THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MOSTLY DOESN'T WANT IT THERE, A STONE'S THROW, TENS OF FEET FROM OUR FRONT DOORS.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT MY NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH RIGHT THERE, DARREN SMITH, I THINK THAT HE'S GOING TO HAVE A 20-FOOT RETAINING WALL IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE AND SOMETHING LIKE 20 FEET FROM HIS DOORSTEP TO THE EDGE OF THE ROAD.

SO IT REALLY IS A STONE'S THROW THAT THIS ROAD IT'LL BE VERY DISRUPTIVE TO OUR LIFE.

I UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS TO THE RIVER VALLEY ROAD COMMUNITY OF THIS ALIGNMENT, BUT WE WOULD FACE SIMILAR IMPACTS OURSELVES.

I AGREE WITH THE IDEA OF DESIGNING THE ROAD IN A WAY THAT HOUSES CAN BE BUILT AROUND IT RATHER THAN THE ROAD GOING RIGHT THROUGH EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS.

I THINK IT'S WORTH EXPLORING ADDITIONAL ROUTES, AS KYLE SUGGESTED, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT DOES NOT PIT NEIGHBOR AGAINST NEIGHBOR.

I HAVE NEVER MET MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON RIVER ROAD BUT IT MAKES ME REALLY SAD TO HEAR IT HAS TO GO HERE, IT HAS TO GO ON YOUR LAND OR IT HAS TO GO TO YOUR LAND.

I THINK WE ALL SHARE SIMILAR CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THOSE ECOSYSTEMS. IT'S NOT LIKE PUTTING THE ROAD HERE VERSUS HERE REALLY SOLVES A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS.

THAT SAID, OUT OF MY OWN PERSONAL INTEREST, I WOULD VOTE FOR THE ALTERNATIVE, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT A EVEN BETTER ALTERNATIVE MIGHT STILL BE FOUND.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

>> THANK YOU, ANDREW. JONATHAN SOUTHWORTH.

>> HELLO.

MY NAME IS JONATHAN SOUTHWORTH.

I'M THE SON OF RYAN SOUTHWORTH WHO SPOKE EARLIER TODAY.

FULL TRANSPARENCY, I ORIGINALLY WAS GOING TO COME HERE AND SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.

NOW, HAVING HEARD EVERYONE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES, I THINK THAT WE NEED MORE TIME, MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

BECAUSE ONLY HAVING 12 DAYS AND HAVING EVERYONE RUSH HERE IN THAT TIME HAS NOT GIVEN US TIME TO RESEARCH, HAS NOT GIVEN US TIME TO TALK TO EACH OTHER BEFOREHAND, AND IT'S REALLY SAD TO SEE US JUST BE HERE ARGUING.

NOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN REASONS WHY I THINK THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THAT SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT THERE, NAMELY THAT, FOR 40 YEARS SOME PAVED ROAD HAS BEEN PROMISED THERE, AND SOME PEOPLE ARE DEPENDING ON THAT.

BUT THE FOUR-WAY, IT SEEMS PERHAPS EXCESSIVE IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA.

ALTERNATIVELY, THE SALMON ROUTE, AS PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE HAVE SAID, IS IN A FLOOD ZONE.

WE APPRECIATE THE EXPERTISE AND RESEARCH HAS BEEN PUT INTO THAT, BUT IT DOES NOT SEEM PRACTICAL AS A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE FACING FROM OUR PERSPECTIVES.

IN BOTH CASES, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS PROTECTS AND ENHANCES THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL, WHICH IS PART OF THE MISSION OF US ALL BEING MET HERE TODAY.

ADDITIONALLY, BUILDING IT THROUGH SO MUCH NATURE WOULD DESTROY THE UNIQUE CHARACTER OF FLAGSTAFF.

I KNOW THAT HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE COME THROUGH THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY FOR HIKING AND BIKING AND SEEING THE ELK, AND HAVING THAT DISAPPEAR BECAUSE OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT IS A SERIOUS CON THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.

ADDITIONALLY, I THINK THAT THE 12 DAYS THAT THE SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS WERE GIVEN TO KNOW ABOUT THIS ALTERNATE ROUTE IS NOT TRANSPARENT.

IT'S A TOUGH PROBLEM TO SOLVE AND I EMPATHIZE WITH EVERYONE HERE,

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>> THANK YOU, JONATHAN.

JENNIFER [INAUDIBLE].

>> HELLO. I WAS NOT PLANNING ON SPEAKING BUT YOU ALL INSPIRED ME, SO THANK YOU.

[LAUGHTER] IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION.

I DO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ACTUALLY.

THAT'S PART OF WHY I'M SPEAKING IS BECAUSE ON THE MAP WHAT I'VE SEEN PRESENTED, I HAVE ONE MAJOR QUESTION WITH THE POTENTIAL ALTERNATE ROUTE, THE SALMON ROUTE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, WOULD THERE BE ANY EXTENSION TO CONNECT OR BYPASS THE RIVER FOR ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT LIVE IN THE SMALL PARCEL OFF OF THAT ALTERNATE PLAN? DAVID, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S BEEN ANSWERED. CAN I ASK THAT?

>> YEAH. I'M FOR IT.

>> USE THE MOUSE.

>> YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?

>> YEAH, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THE IDEA OF COLLECTORS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE TEAM, AND THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF COLLECTORS BEING IN THE NETWORK, BUT WHAT THE CAVEAT TO THAT IS, IS THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR A COLLECTOR.

A COLLECTOR IS A SMALLER ROAD THAT WOULD BE SERVICING.

LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, WE BUILT THE SALMON LINE, AT SOMEDAY DOWN THE ROAD LATER WE MIGHT BUILD A PAVED ROAD THAT WOULD BE THE YELLOW LINE, A SMALLER ROAD, A COLLECTOR ROAD, NOT IN OUR MAIN MINOR ARTERIAL. IS THAT FAIR, JEFF?

>> YEAH. THANK YOU. I JUST NEEDED CLARIFICATION ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NEVER BEEN POINTED OUT ON ANY OF THIS PRESENTATION.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS ABOUT SAFETY.

HAVING LIVED DOWN ON MONROE STREET FOR 22 YEARS AND APPRECIATING WHAT EVERYONE HAS SAID AND EXACTLY WHAT THE LAST FEW PEOPLE HAVE SAID, THE AWKWARDNESS OF PITTING NEIGHBOR AGAINST NEIGHBOR TO MAKE THIS VOTE.

MY CONCERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN SAFETY.

I WAS GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT THE EMERGENCY ROOM PHYSICIAN THAT LIVES BACK HERE.

I'VE HAD SO MANY ENCOUNTERS OF DANGEROUS SITUATIONS.

WE'VE HAD FLOODS WHERE AS A NURSE AT THE HOSPITAL IN THE ER, I'VE HAD TO CARE FOR PEOPLE WHO MADE THE DECISION TO TRAVERSE THE RIVER AND ENDED UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM, HYPOTHERMIC.

YEARS AGO THIS HAS HAPPENED DURING FIRE EVACUATION, IT'S NOT SAFE GETTING OUT OF WHERE WE LIVE.

MY NUMBER 1 CONCERN IS SAFETY FOR US TO EXIT AND ENTER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A CONCERN.

ESSENTIALLY, I HAD THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BYPASS OR THE CONNECTOR, AS HE'S SAYING, BECAUSE THAT MIGHT ADDRESS SOME OF THAT.

THE OTHER CONCERN IS ABOUT THE TIMELINE WHEN EVERYONE HAS SAID.

YES, THERE WAS AN AWARENESS A YEAR AGO WITH THE OCTOBER, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS COMMUNICATED EFFECTIVELY TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS AS IF CERTAIN PEOPLE KNEW AND PRESENTED AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW.

THEN THIS MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENT WITH THIS RIVER VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD HAVING 12 DAYS NOTICE DOES NOT SEEM NEARLY ENOUGH AS WELL.

AS EVERYONE IS RECENTLY SAYING, MORE TIME.

LET'S LOOK AT ALL OF THE OPTIONS BECAUSE EVERYONE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR FAMILY, AND THEIR KIDS, AND THEIR PROPERTY.

THE CONCERNS ARE EMOTIONAL.

EVERYONE FEELS REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE BEST FOR THEIR OWN SITUATION, AND CERTAINLY WE NEED MORE TIME.

IT SEEMS TO ME MY ORIGINAL THOUGHT HAS ALWAYS BEEN KNOWING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL PLAN AS A CONNECTOR FROM 4TH STREET TO SOUTH 4TH STREET, AND THAT HAS BEEN IN THE MASTER PLAN, WE DID SEE THAT YEARS AGO.

THAT WOULD BE MY VOTE.

HOWEVER, I CARE ABOUT MY NEIGHBORS AND EVERYONE'S CONCERNS HERE, SO THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE WILL GO TO ONLINE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. OUR FIRST PUBLIC PARTICIPANT IS PETER BIRCH.

PETER, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND TURN ON YOUR CAMERA IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

>> THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?

>> YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

MY FAMILY OWNS THE PROPERTY THAT'S DESIGNATED AS BRIGHTON IN THE MAP, JUST EAST OF CANYON DEL RIO, [NOISE] ALONG THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.

WE'VE OWNED THAT SINCE, I BELIEVE ABOUT 2003, SO JUST SHY OF 20 YEARS.

IT'S VACANT LAND, 57 ACRES.

A LOT OF IT IS IN THE FLOOD WAY, AND WE KNEW THAT WHEN WE BOUGHT IT.

WE KNEW ABOUT THIS ALIGNMENT WHEN WE BOUGHT IT AND WE'VE

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OBVIOUSLY, CANYON DEL RIO, LIKE YOU SAID, IT WAS PLANNED IN THE 80S AND IT'S JUST NOW GETTING UNDERWAY.

SEEMED VERY OBVIOUSLY THINGS HAPPEN SLOWLY AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN FOR ASKING FOR MORE TIME, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THAT'S ALWAYS THE SOLUTION BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS PEOPLE ON EITHER SIDE.

IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME THAT YOU WOULD NOT IMPACT THE SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS AND GO THROUGH LARGER PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO GIVE THE RIGHT OF WAY.

I UNDERSTAND ALL THE CONCERNS, BUT LOOKING IT FROM A MACRO LEVEL, FROM THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

I AM IN FAVOR OF THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT PUBLIC PARTICIPANT.

>> MAYOR, OUR NEXT PUBLIC PARTICIPANT IS ED SHAW.

ED, IF YOU COULD PLEASE GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND TURN ON YOUR CAMERA IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON THIS CONTENTIOUS ISSUE.

AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, KATHY AND I LIVE IN THE FOREST FAILED NEIGHBORHOOD ON ASH LANE.

THAT'S THE COUNTY PARCEL TO THE EAST OF THE 4TH STREET ROAD THERE.

TO BE HONEST, NEITHER ONE OF THESE PROPOSALS IS DIRECTLY IN OUR BACKYARD.

THAT BEING SAID, I DID PROVIDE WRITTEN RESPONSE IN SUPPORT OF THE ALTERNATIVE PLAN.

AFTER HEARING THE VARIOUS FEEDBACK TONIGHT, MAYBE I WOULD CHARACTERIZE THAT MORE AS SUPPORTING AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN.

I WOULD SAY THAT IN THE 30 YEARS THAT WE'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE FORESTRY ALIGNMENT HAS BEEN ON THE TABLE SINCE DAY ONE AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED.

BACK THEN, FOREST STREET WAS A TWO-LANE ROAD.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF JW PAUL EXISTED BACK THEN, MAYBE A DRIVEWAY TO THAT RURAL PROPERTY BACK THERE.

I THINK THE ASSUMPTIONS WERE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT 4TH STREET ALIGNMENT.

TODAY, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH A FOUR-LANE ARTERIAL TRUNK ROUTE IS A VERY DIVIDING FEATURE THAT WOULD RUN THROUGH THE CENTER OF THIS RURAL PROPERTY.

THAT'S REALLY WHERE MY BIGGEST RUB IS, IS THAT 40 MILES AN HOUR, WHETHER IT'S TWO LANES OR FOUR LANES, IT'S CONSIDERED AN ARTERIAL.

IT'LL BE A TRUCK ROUTE, MAJOR TRUCKING ROUTE BETWEEN THE AIRPORT AND THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, TRAVELED BETWEEN THE EAST SIDE OF THE TOWN AND THE NEW HOSPITAL WHEN THAT'S BUILT.

IF THAT RUNS ALONG THE FOURTH STREET ALIGNMENT, THERE WILL BE MANY NEIGHBORS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THERE ARE DRIVEWAYS, MERGE DIRECTLY ONTO THAT MAJOR ARTERIAL.

I DON'T SEE TOO MANY EXAMPLES OF THAT AROUND AS I LOOK AT WHAT WE CONSIDER OTHER ARTERIOLES IN FLAGSTAFF.

YOU DON'T HAVE DRIVEWAYS JUST MERGING DIRECTLY ON THE BUTLER IN TOO MANY PLACES OR 89 OR EVEN JW POWELL FOR THAT MATTER.

THAT SAFETY ASPECT IS REALLY WHAT HAS ME CONCERNED FOR THE FOUR-STEP NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE DIVISION OF RUNNING SUCH A HIGH-SPEED ROADWAY THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF WHAT'S REALLY A RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THESE HOUSES, ROADS, OR DIRT, THE DRIVEWAYS ARE GRAVEL, FOR HAULING OR WATER, FOR RAISING HORSES AND FARMING, AND JUST HAVING SUCH A MAJOR ARTERIAL BISECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD I THINK IS BAD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S FOR THAT REASON THAT I REALLY VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE ALTERNATIVE PLAN.

MAYBE TODAY IT WOULD CHARACTERIZE THAT IS IN FAVOR OF AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN BECAUSE THEY DO AGREE WITH WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID.

IT'S A LOT EASIER TO BUILD THE ROAD FIRST AND THEN HAVE PEOPLE SURROUND THE EXISTING ROADWAY.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO BURDEN MY NEIGHBORS DOWN ON RIVER VALLEY ROAD WITH IT ANY MORE THAN THE PEOPLE ON 4TH STREET WITH IT.

>> THANK YOU. YES.

>> GIVEN A CHOICE OF TWO EVILS, I WILL CHOOSE THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT.

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>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> NEXT PUBLIC PARTICIPANT, PLEASE.

>> MAYOR, WE HAVE AN ATTENDEE LABELED FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL, YOU MAY AT THIS TIME.

>> HI, MY NAME IS RUTH NELLA BOROFSKY.

I LIVE IN THE FOREST STALE SUBDIVISION.

I'M ACTUALLY ON THE CORNER OF ASHLAND AND FORESTDALE.

I AM IN FAVOR OF THE ORIGINAL ROUTE THAT THEY HAD PLANNED.

WE HAVE KNOWN THAT THIS IS GOING TO COME THROUGH I'M SORRY, MY NEIGHBORS ABOVE ME HAVE BUILT THEIR HOME SO CLOSE TO THE ROAD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS.

BUT I HAVE MOVED OUT THERE FOR 40 YEARS.

THE ROAD IN AND OUT, WHETHER IT'D BE THE SUMMER OR WINTER IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.

I LIVED UP THERE WHEN FLAG STAFF HAVE THE MAJOR FLOODING IN RIO AND WE WERE HOME FOR A WEEK BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET TO TOWN.

WE DEFINITELY NEED ACCESS IN RURAL SUBDIVISION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT PUBLIC PARTICIPANT.

>> MAYOR, I DO HAVE THREE OTHER PEOPLE ONLINE, BUT THEY HAVE NOT INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

>> WELL, WITH THAT, WE CAN TURN IT INTERNAL WITH COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.

>> MAYOR, I DO HAVE A JIM HILL FROM LITTLE AMERICA WHO JUST RAISED HIS HAND.

>> YEAH. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> GIVE ME JUST A QUICK MOMENT.

>> JIM, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

>> GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

>> YES, PLEASE PROCEED.

>> GREETINGS ALL. SORRY FOR STRUGGLING WITH THE TECHNOLOGY A LITTLE BIT HERE.

IT'S NICE TO BE WITH YOU.

MY NAME IS JIM HILL.

I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT FOR GRAND AMERICA HOTELS AND RESORTS.

THAT'S THE PARENT COMPANY OF LITTLE AMERICA.

I'VE BEEN WORKING ON BEHALF OF THE HOLDING FAMILY AND THE OWNERSHIP RELATIVE TO THE OTHER LARGE LANDOWNERS.

ANYWAY, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I APPRECIATE HAVING THIS TIME.

I APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT HERE AND HEARING ALL THE CONCERNS.

I WANTED TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE SALMON ALIGNMENT.

WITH THEN AGAIN, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH [INAUDIBLE], PETER BERGER ARE SOME OF THE CITY STAFF AND OTHERS TO CONSIDER THAT.

IT DOES GO I THINK ROUGHLY ALONG A COLLECTOR ROAD ALIGNMENT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS PLAN.

WE DON'T HAVE LIKE IMMEDIATE DEVELOPMENT NEEDS OR A SENSE OF URGENCY ON IT, BUT WE DO WANT TO BE HERE, TRY TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.

ALSO, I THINK [INAUDIBLE] BROUGHT UP THE NOTION OF A MORE WESTERLY ALIGNMENT.

WE'RE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

I THINK JUST SOMEWHAT EVERYONE EXPRESSING CONCERN ABOUT NOT BEING WILD, ABOUT RUNNING A RELATIVELY HIGH-SPEED, LARGE ROAD THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THEIR PROPERTY.

I THINK AT A MACRO LEVEL WE SHARE A SIMILAR CONCERN.

THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD TO SAY.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF IT'S HELPFUL.

>> THANK YOU, JIM. I APPRECIATE IT.

ANY OTHER PARTICIPANTS?

>> MAYOR, WE DO HAVE ONE MORE THAT HASN'T INDICATED THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

DARREN SMITH, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE AND YOU MAY ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

>> YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR LISTENING TO ME.

MY NAME IS DARREN SMITH.

I OWN THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF 4TH STREET IN [INAUDIBLE].

OUR PROPERTY HERE WOULD BE IMPACTED PRETTY DRASTICALLY FROM THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AND I WAS AWARE OF IT AND TOLD BY THE CITY AT THE TIME THAT IT WOULD BE COMING THROUGH.

ALTHOUGH I WAS TOLD IT WOULD BE A MUCH SMALLER ROAD THAN WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING AND I REALIZED THAT IT'S GOING TO START OFF SMALL AND EVENTUALLY EXPAND OR MAYBE THE FORELANDS AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT IS THE FACT THAT IT BE ABOUT 45 FEET OFF OF MY FRONT DOOR AND THERE'D BE ABOUT A 12-FOOT HIGH RETAINING WALL FROM THERE.

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ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BEST SOLUTION IS.

THAT'S YOUR GUISES, I GUESS, JOB TO FIGURE OUT.

THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT TO ME IS A NO GO CONSIDERING THAT IT PUTS A HIGHWAY 45 FEET OFF OF MY FRONT DOOR.

I WOULD BE VOTING FOR ANY SORT OF AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE COMPARED TO THE ORIGINAL ONE.

>> THANK YOU, DARREN. IS THAT OUR LAST PUBLIC PARTICIPANT?

>> MAYOR, THAT WAS THE LAST PERSON ONLINE WHO HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

>> WE HAVE ONE MORE CARD HERE, VICKY SHEPHERD.

>> THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY LAST MOMENT WHEN I GOT THE NERVE TO DO THIS.

I DON'T SPEAK WELL IN PUBLIC.

HOWEVER, I CAME WANTING TO VOTE FOR THE ALTERNATIVE BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO ED SHAW IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTY.

WHEN WE MOVE THERE IN '95, WE KNEW THERE WAS A ROAD COMING THROUGH SOME DAY.

WE HAD NO IDEA THAT IT WOULD BE THIS LARGE.

A TWO LANE ROAD WAS ALL THAT WAS ENVISIONED AT THAT TIME.

JW POWELL DID NOT EXIST AT THAT TIME.

I HONESTLY THOUGHT WELL, AND THEY WERE TELLING US IT WOULD BE A LOT OF YEARS AND I THOUGHT, WELL, THEN THE AMBULANCE CAN GET TO US BY THEN IT'LL BE OKAY.

BUT THIS IS NOT OKAY TO GO THROUGH THE FOURTH STREET.

I'M SORRY, THE PEOPLE THAT MOVE THERE DIDN'T GET ANY BETTER INFORMATION THAN WE DID.

BUT I THINK THE CITIES CHANGED WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BE DOING THROUGH THERE.

OR ALL THESE REAL ESTATE PEOPLE HAVE LIED TO ALL OF US DURING ALL THIS TIME, WHICH MIGHT BE A PROBLEM.

NOW WE MOVE IT OVER TO.

>> SORRY, COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC A LITTLE BETTER?

>> I'M SORRY.

>> NO PROBLEM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE CAN HEAR.

>> NOW WE MOVE TO THE ALTERNATE WHICH I CAME READY TO VOTE FOR AND BECAUSE IT'S FURTHER FROM MY HOUSE, I'LL HAVE LESS IMPACT.

WELL, THAT'S A NICE SELFISH THING TO THINK.

BUT I KNOW THAT THE WISEMANS HAVE LIVED THERE FOREVER.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT ALL THAT SECTION AT THE END OF THAT ROAD, BECAUSE IT'S A NO TRESPASSING ROAD BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF TRAFFIC.

IT'S THEIR SANCTUARY.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE RIO COMES DOWN AND FLOODS AND HAS THIS PLANE WHERE ALL THE WILDLIFE GET NOURISHMENT FROM.

THEY'VE GOT TO AVOID THE FREEWAY.

THEY GO THERE AND THEN CROSS DOWN INTO THE LOWER ELEVATIONS WHEN THEY NEED TO.

THIS IS FLAGSTAFF.

FLAGSTAFF IS FOR NATURE, AND FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, AND FOR KEEPING CLEAN AIR.

I'M LEARNING NOW THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS WHY WE'RE HAVING TO GIVE THIS UP IN THIS LITTLE NICHE OF FLAGSTAFF.

FOURTH STREET ITSELF IS IN A LITTLE VALLEY.

[LAUGHTER] YES, WE'RE NOT ALL POOR, BUT WE ALL LIVE WITHOUT THE SERVICES THAT OTHER PEOPLE LIVE WITH.

WE HAUL OUR WATER OR WE HAVE IT HAULED TO US.

I SEE A PLAN THAT COULD GO UP THROUGH CEMETERY ABOVE GIBSON AND YES, CROSSED THE RIO AT SOME POINT AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED THERE ALL THOSE YEARS ACROSS THE CANYON DEL RIO AND THEN GO UP HEROLD RANCH.

WHY CAN'T WE DO THAT? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VICKY. [APPLAUSE]. WITH THAT, WE'RE DONE WITH THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SECTION.

I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS HERE OF STAFF.

BUT WANT TO HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBERS OPEN IT UP IF THEY'D LIKE.

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>> WELL, EARLY ON THIS EVENING SOMEONE SAYS, WHY ARE WE HERE? WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE? THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE A FEW MONTHS AGO, WHENEVER IT WAS, WE HAD A WHOLE ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE THAT SAYS THEY COULDN'T HANDLE THE ORIGINAL ROUTE, THE YELLOW ROUTE.

FOR THE REASONS WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT.

IT'S A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THEY DON'T WANT A FOUR LANE ROAD GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THEIR PROPERTY.

I PRESUME THAT LIMITING THIS TO A TWO-LANE ROAD IS OFF THE TABLE, BECAUSE EVENTUALLY WHATEVER ROUTE WE CHOOSE WILL NEED FOUR LANES AT SOME POINT.

I GUESS I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WILDLIFE IMPACT IF WE GO WITH THE SALMON-COLORED ROUTES.

I GUESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, WELL, ARE THE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS GOING THROUGH THIS AREA AND SAY WE DID NOT DO THAT SALMON CORRIDOR? I PRESUMED THAT IT WOULD BE DEVELOPED AND IT WOULD IMPACT THE WILDLIFE.

CAN SOMEONE ON STAFF ANSWER THAT? MISTER KNOW-IT-ALL? [LAUGHTER].

>> NO.

>> I MEAN THAT AS A COMPLIMENT.

>> I HAVE KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE OF THAT TEAM THAT I INTRODUCED EARLIER, SO I'M ONE SMALL COG, I CAN SAY THAT IN THE 30 PERCENT DESIGN, WE DID HAVE MET WITH NATION EXPERTS WITH ARIZONA GAME AND FISH, THEY HAVE SUPPLIED COLOR DATA AND IT RESOUNDS EXACTLY WITH WHAT YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT.

IT'S AN IMPRESSIVE AMOUNT OF WILDLIFE THAT'S IN THIS AREA.

WE'VE DISCUSSED UNDERPASSES, WILDLIFE FENCING.

WE'VE HAD EXHAUSTIVE CONVERSATIONS ON THAT.

WE ARE AGAIN IN 30 PERCENT DESIGNS.

WE HAVE PLANS TO CONTINUE ENGAGING THEM AND LOOKING AT WILDLIFE.

NO MORE ACCURATE DATA THAN WHAT'S PRESENTED HERE BY THESE PERSONAL MEMBERS THAT SEE THEM EVERY DAY.

IT'S ONE THING TO LOOK AT COLOR DATA, WHICH IS VALID.

I'M NOT DISCREDITING ARIZONA GAME AND FISH.

THEY HAVE WONDERFUL DATA, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED FURTHER AS WE GO FURTHER ALONG AND DESIGN.

AGAIN, WE'RE AT THE 30 PERCENT DESIGN LEVEL WITH THE ORIGINAL, THE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT WE HAVE CONTRACTED GO TO 30 PERCENT DESIGN ABOUT ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT AS WELL.

IN THE SCOPE OF THAT, THERE WAS NATURAL RESOURCE PROTECTION WHICH ENCOMPASSED, I BELIEVE, SOME WILDLIFE COMPONENT, BUT THERE IS NO FUNDING IN THERE YET OR ASKED FOR WILDLIFE STUDIES.

DOES THAT HELP COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY?

>> YES. IF WE DIDN'T BUILD THE SALMON ROUTE.