Aug 24, 2022 Planning and Zoning

[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the Commission and to the general public that, at this regular meeting, the Commission may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]

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OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD.

SO THE LET'S SEE, THE AUGUST 24TH, 2022 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PUBLIC MEETING IS CALLED ORDER AND LET'S HAVE THE ROLL CALL.

[2. Roll Call NOTE: One or more Commission Members may be in attendance telephonically or by other technological means. MARIE JONES, CHAIR CAROLE MANDINO, VICE CHAIR DR. RICARDO GUTHRIE BOB HARRIS, III MARY NORTON DR. ALEX MARTINEZ LLOYD PAUL ]

HERE'S THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION AT THIS TIME.

ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY SUBJECT WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION.

THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON THIS DAY.

DUE TO OPEN MEETING LAWS, THE COMMISSION CANNOT DISCUSS OR ACT ON ITEMS PRESENTED DURING THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

SO IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY.

SO THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS JULY 27.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Approval of the minutes from the regular meeting on July 27, 2022.]

THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.

THIS IS MARY NORTON.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MINUTES, ANY CHANGES OR NOTES ON THAT? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES.

PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SO THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

AND NEXT, WE HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING ITEM.

[A. PZ-15-00115-23: Adora - Phase 2 at Timber Sky Preliminary Plat Capstone Homes requests Preliminary Plat approval for Adora - Phase 2 at Timber Sky located at 2760 S Vega Street, a 39 lot single-family subdivision on 7.15 acres in the Medium-Density Residential (MR) Zone. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Staff recommends the Planning and Zoning Commission, in accordance with the findings presented in this report, forward the Preliminary Plat to the City Council with a recommendation of approval.]

GOOD MORNING. CHAIRWOMAN JONES, GENEVIEVE PEARTHREE HERE, I'M PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF BEN MEJIA.

HE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I KNOW THE APPLICANT WAS HAVING TROUBLE JOINING, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO.

ALEX, COULD YOU SEND JOHN SUTHERLAND THE LINK TO THE MEETING JUST TO MAKE SURE HE HAS THAT? I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED AND HOPEFULLY HE'LL COME ON.

YES, I'LL DO THAT.

AND I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT BOB JOINED US.

SO AND GENEVIEVE, IT'S AFTERNOON NOT MORNING.

OH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT IS MORE BEEN A CRAZY DAY.

YES, CORRECT. OKAY.

SO GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.

LET ME SHARE MY PRESENTATION.

OKAY. SO THIS IS FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL REQUEST.

THIS IS FOR ADORA PHASE TWO AT TIMBER SKY.

AGAIN GENEVIEVE PEARTHREE, SENIOR PLANNER.

AND I'LL BE PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF THE [INAUDIBLE] SO THIS REQUEST IS FROM CAPSTONE HOMES.

IT IS FOR PRELIMINARY PLOT APPROVAL OF ADORA PHASE TWO AT TIMBER SKY SUBDIVISION, AND THAT IS LOCATED AT 2760 SOUTH VEGA STREET. THIS SUBDIVISION PROPOSES 39 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ON 7.15 ACRES, AND IT IS IN THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONE.

IT ALSO HAS A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY FOR RPO AND STAFF APPROVED OR ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY PLOT CONDITIONS ON JULY SEVEN, 2022, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY.

SO TIMBER, UH THIS SUBDIVISION IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE TIMBER SKY MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS JUST WEST OF [INAUDIBLE] MOUNTAIN ROAD AND JUST NORTH OF I-40.

SO THIS SUBDIVISION IS PART OF THAT LARGER TIMBER SKY MASTER PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AND ANNEXATION WERE APPROVED IN 2016, AND TIMBER SKY PROPOSES A MAXIMUM OF 1300 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

AND THIS IS PART OF PHASE TWO OF TIMBER SKY DEVELOPMENT.

AND IT'S THAT BLOCK THREE B, WHICH IS RIGHT OVER HERE.

RIGHT THERE. SO HERE IS WHAT THE LOTS ARE PROPOSED TO LOOK LIKE.

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IT'S ALSO CREATING TWO NEW STREAMS. THIS IS THE RESOURCE PROTECTION AND LANDSCAPING PLAN.

SO IT SHOWS NEW TREES ALONG THE NEW STREETS AS WELL AS NEW TREES AS WELL AS WHAT RESOURCE PROTECTION TREES ARE GOING TO BE SAVED VERSUS REMOVED. AND AS DISCUSSED IN THE STAFF REPORT, SO THIS ITEM OF FIRE DID GO THROUGH HERE.

SO THERE AREN'T THAT MANY EXISTING TREES, BUT THERE ARE A FEW ONES IN RED WILL BE REMOVED, THE ONES IN GREEN WILL BE PRESERVED.

THE WAY THAT TIMBER SKY IS BEING DEVELOPED IS THE NATURAL RESOURCE PROTECTION IS BEING AVERAGED ACROSS ALL OF THE SUBDIVISIONS.

THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT BELOW WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY SET FOR THIS BLOCK, BUT IT'S BEING UPDATED AS THE SITES DEVELOP, SO OVER THE OVERALL PROTECTION RATE WILL BE MET AS THE OTHER SITES.

THE OTHER PARTS OF TIMBER SKY.

NOW LET'S DISCUSS THIS STAFF REPORT AS WELL.

YOU CAN SEE [INAUDIBLE] SO MOVING FORWARD, THERE'S THREE REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR SUBDIVISION PLAT APPROVAL.

THE FIRST ONE IS CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING CODE.

THAT'S TITLE TEN, THE CITY CODE.

THE SECOND IS CONFORMANCE WITH THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS.

THAT'S TITLE 13 AND CITY CODE, AND THE THIRD IS CONFORMANCE WITH THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS, AND THAT'S TITLE 11 OF THE FLAT TAX CITY CODE.

SO WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE IN DETAIL, STARTING WITH THE ZONING CODE, TITLE TEN.

SO ONE PART OF IT IS HAS TO BE THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS AS WELL AS THE T FOUR AND TWO ZONE STANDARDS.

SO THIS SUBDIVISION, AS DISCUSSED IN THE STAFF REPORT, IS DOING A PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO THEY HAVE TO MEET THE DENSITY OF THE MR ZONE STANDARDS, BUT THE BUILDING FORM AND PLACEMENT STANDARDS OF T FOUR AND TWO ZONES.

SO THAT'S THE PLAN, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT MECHANISM AND THE ZONING CODE.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS USING TO DEVELOP.

SO IT IS WITHIN THE DENSITY OF THE MR ZONE, THE RANGE IS FOUR IS TO MINIMUM AND 14 MAXIMUM UNITS PER ACRE.

THIS IS PROPOSING 5.4 UNITS PER ACRE.

PRIOR TO RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION FOR DEDICATING THIS ROAD AND 7.06 UNITS PER ACRE AFTER THOSE RULES ARE DEDICATED.

SO EITHER WAY IT'S WITHIN THAT RANGE.

SO THEY'RE GOOD. THEY'RE LOT DESIGN AND RESOURCE PROTECTION.

SO THE LOTS ARE BEING DESIGNED TO MEET RESOURCE PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS USING A SPECIFIC BUILDING ENVELOPE.

SO THERE ARE SOME LOTS THAT HAVE KIND OF A UNIQUE DEVELOPABLE AREA IN ORDER TO PRESERVE TREES.

AND THEY'RE ALSO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.

SO FOR A LOT SIZES, THE PLAN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT MECHANISM DOES ALLOW FOR SMALLER LOT SIZES, WHICH IS EMPLOYING A LOT OF SIZES RANGE FROM 4500 SQUARE FEET TO ABOUT 8000 SQUARE FEET.

AND THE TYPICAL LOT DIMENSIONS ARE ABOUT 50 FEET TO 90 FEET, 50 FEET WIDE AND 90 FEET DEEP.

AND THE ZONING CODE DOES ALLOW CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THESE LOT SIZES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, BUT THAT ARE ALLOWED WITH THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT MECHANISM.

AND THEN I MENTIONED THAT THE HOUSES HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE P FOUR AND TWO MINIMUM SETBACKS THAT'S FIVE FEET IN THE FRONT AND THREE FEET ON THE SIDES AND REAR IN THOSE BUILDING ENVELOPES. SO EACH LOT HAS A BUILDING ENVELOPE THAT SHOWS WHAT CAN BE OR WHERE THE WHAT CAN BE DISTURBED.

SO WHERE THE HOUSES CAN BE PLACED.

AND THAT MAKES SURE THAT THE PLOT IS MEETING ALL THOSE STANDARDS.

SO OTHER STANDARDS IN THE ZONING CODE THAT ARE RELEVANT TO THIS CASE WOULD BE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL RESOURCES.

SO THE ORIGINAL TIMBER SKY REZONING AND ANNEXATION APPLICATION INCLUDED CULTURAL RESEARCH STUDIES THAT WAS COMPLETED WITHOUT ORIGINAL APPROVAL BACK IN 2016. SO THEY DIDN'T NEED TO DO ANOTHER ONE FOR THIS SPECIFIC PLAT FOR PARKS, OPEN SPACE, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FACILITIES.

SO THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS IN THE LARGER TIMBER SKY DEVELOPMENT TO PROVIDE OPEN SPACE AND AMENITY AREAS.

THERE'S A COMMUNITY CENTER, PARK, PICKLEBALL, COURTS, ETC.

THAT WOULD PROVIDE IN THE LARGER TIMBER SKY MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY.

SO THAT MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT.

AND THEN THERE ARE SIDEWALKS OBVIOUSLY THROUGHOUT THE SUBDIVISION AS WELL.

SO THE NEXT SET OF FINDINGS IS THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS.

SO THAT'S TITLE 13.

SO AS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT REVIEW, THERE'S A PUBLIC SYSTEM ANALYSIS THAT HAS TO HAPPEN, SO THAT IS CONDUCTED TO CONFIRM PRELIMINARY COMPLIANCE WITH THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS.

THIS WILL BE CONFIRMED WHEN THIS PROJECT GOES TO CIVIL PLAN REVIEW, AND THAT HAPPENS AFTER PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL AND THAT'S WHEN THE DETAILS ARE IRONED OUT.

BUT THE POINT WITH PRELIMINARY PLAT IS JUST TO MAKE SURE GENERALLY THAT THINGS ARE MEETING THOSE ENGINEERING STANDARDS AND THEY ARE AND THAT'S WHY THE PLAT IS HERE TODAY IN P&Z. SO THE FIRST PART OF THAT PUBLIC SYSTEMS ANALYSIS IS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF THE LARGER TIMBER SKY DEVELOPMENT

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SO TRAFFIC STAFF ALREADY HAS ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT TRAFFIC.

THEY DIDN'T NEED ANOTHER ONE FOR THIS SPECIFIC SUBDIVISION, BUT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THAT ORIGINAL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

MOVING ON.

THERE'S SOME WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE MADE AS PART OF THIS SUBDIVISION.

SO NEW EIGHT INCH WATER LINE AS WELL AS A NEW EIGHT INCH SEWER LINE AND THEN FOR STORMWATER.

SO THERE'S REGIONAL KIND OF LARGER SCALE ATTENTION PROVIDED FOR THE ENTIRE TIMBER SKY DEVELOPMENT.

SO ALSO THE ON LOT LOW DEVELOPMENT BASIN.

SO BASICALLY HAVING MANY STORMWATER RETENTION BASINS ON EACH LOT.

SO THAT'S HOW TIMBER SKY IS DEVELOPING AND THAT IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LARGER TIMBER SKY MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

SO THE LAST CATEGORY OF FINDINGS IS COMPLIANCE WITH CHAPTER 11-20, WHICH IS THE SUBDIVISION AND LAND SPLIT REGULATION.

SO THIS SETS OUT PRELIMINARY PLAT PROCEDURES AS WELL AS THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS.

THEY'VE MET ALL OF THOSE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

THE SECOND PART IS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENTS.

THOSE ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE PUBLIC SYSTEMS ANALYSIS.

SO THE WATER, WASTEWATER, STORMWATER AND TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT I JUST DISCUSSED.

SO THE SUBDIVISION IS MEETING THOSE REQUIREMENTS AS IDENTIFIED IN THOSE.

NOW THESE. AND THEN THE THIRD PART OF THE CONFORMANCE OF CHAPTER 11-20 IS THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS.

SO THAT SETS OUT STANDARDS FOR LOT DESIGN, STREET DESIGN, EASEMENT DESIGN AND BLOCK DESIGN.

AND THIS SUBDIVISION DOES CONFORM WITH THOSE THAT'S DISCUSSED IN DETAIL IN THIS DRAFT REPORT.

SO I WON'T GO INTO IT TOO MUCH HERE.

ANYWAY, SO IT DOES MEET THOSE STANDARDS.

SO IN SUMMARY PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION SHALL FIND THAT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF CITY CODE.

SO THE FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL, WHICH IS TITLE TEN, THE FLAGSTAFF ZONING CODE, TITLE 11, THE GENERAL PLANS AND SUBDIVISIONS, IS SPECIFICALLY THE PART THAT TALKS ABOUT SUBDIVISIONS AS WELL AS TITLE 13 IS CITY CODE, WHICH IS THE ENGINEERING PLAN AND SPECIFICATION.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BASED ON THE REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL FOR THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

SO THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE IN MY PRESENTATION.

BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M ALSO AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GENEVIEVE.

MR. SUTHERLAND, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR PROJECT? YEAH. NO, ACTUALLY, GENEVIEVE SUMMARIZED IT PRETTY WELL.

IT'S A PARCEL WITHIN.

TIMBER SKY. IT'S ADJACENT TO THE PARCEL OR BLOCK THREE A THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE HOMES BEING CONSTRUCTED THERE.

SO IT'S KIND OF A CONTINUATION OF THAT PART OF TIMBER SKY, NOT NECESSARILY THOSE HOMES IN PARTICULAR.

BUT YEAH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OF ME, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PRESENTATION PREPARED FOR IT, BUT ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ASK, I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER.

OKAY. THANKS. DO WE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? THIS PROJECT. COMMISSIONER NORTON.

THANKS, COMMISSIONER JONES.

I ALWAYS HAVE QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS PROBABLY FOR GENEVIEVE.

I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD TOUCH A LITTLE BIT IN EXPLANATION ABOUT THE NATURAL RESOURCES THAT ARE COMING IN JUST UNDER THE REQUIREMENT.

I UNDERSTAND THERE THEY'RE TRUING UP AT THE CIVIL PLAN REVIEW AND THE SHORTAGES ARE ABSORBED BY OTHER TRACKS.

HOWEVER, I'VE KIND OF NOTICED IN SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US FOR TIMBER SKY.

EVERYTHING'S BEEN SLIGHTLY UNDER.

IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THE CHARTS ON PAGE SIX WERE REALLY HELPFUL AND I WAS WONDERING, IS THAT INFORMATION AND THOSE NUMBERS AND THE OVERSIGHT, IS THAT ULTIMATELY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO FOLLOW THOSE NUMBERS AND SORT OF WHERE'S THE ASSURANCE THAT IN THE END, THE REQUIRED 47 AND A HALF PERCENT RESOURCE PROTECTION HAS BEEN ACHIEVED?

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MY UNDERSTANDING AND I HAVEN'T BEEN WORKING ON TIMBER SKY [INAUDIBLE], BUT I'LL GIVE YOU MY BEST UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS IN THAT IT'S JUST THAT, YES, THE PLANNERS ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS THE CLASS COME IN AND MAKING SURE THAT THINGS ARE BEING UPDATED.

THAT'S ABOUT THE BEST I CAN TELL YOU.

I DON'T KNOW IF ALEX HAS ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THAT OR JOHN, BUT I KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS PLANNING STAFF JUST IN GENERAL, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT GOES FROM ONE PLAT TO ANOTHER THAT WE WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO UPDATE ANYTHING AND JUST MAKE SURE THINGS ARE ON TRACK.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE GENERAL APPROACH SPECIFICALLY FOR TIMBER SKY.

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING BEING DIFFERENT THAN THAT.

BUT THAT'S THE BEST I CAN TELL YOU.

OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU FOR JUST EXPANDING ON THAT.

AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION, I GUESS THIS WOULD BE FOR JOHN SUTHERLAND, MORE OF OUT OF INTEREST.

SO SINCE THIS BLOCK THREE B IS A REMAINDER AND CONNECTED TO THREE A, WHICH WAS THE MANDALAY MOSAIC COMMUNITY, IS THERE ANY EFFORT OR THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT WOULD BE SOME SORT OF ARCHITECTURAL CONTINUITY? OR WILL THIS BLOCK OF CAPSTONE ZADORA LOOK LIKE A SEPARATE COMMUNITY WITHIN THE TRACK? AND MAYBE, MAYBE COULD YOU EXPAND ON THE PRODUCT TO I WAS INTERESTED JUST WHAT THE PRODUCT LOOKS LIKE THE GARAGE SIZE, THE DRIVEWAYS, THE ACCESS. IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE THE DESCRIPTION OF THE FRONT LOADING AND THE PORCH AREAS THAT WERE ILLUSTRATED.

SO HAD QUESTIONS ON THAT? SURE. I THINK THE EASIEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT IS THE HOMES THAT WE WOULD BE WE WOULD BUILD WOULD BE MORE SIMILAR TO THE HOMES THAT WE BUILT IN BLOCK EIGHT.

IT'S NOT SIMILAR SIZING, BUT SIMILAR ARCHITECTURE.

LET'S SAY IF YOU CAN PICTURE WHERE THAT'S AT, IT'S THE PARCEL WITHIN TIMBER SKY THAT'S CLOSEST TO ROUTE 66.

SOME OF THOSE LOTS BACK TOWARDS ROUTE 66.

SO IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM THE EXISTING HOMES ON THREE A AND MORE IN THE STYLE OF WHAT CAPSTONE HAS BUILT WITHIN TIMBER SKY SO FAR.

IT'S KIND OF A I THINK THE DESCRIPTION WE USE IS A MOUNTAIN MODERN TYPE THING.

SO I GUESS THAT'S THE EASIEST GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF IT, OF THE TYPE OF PRODUCT.

SO IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT MOSAIC IS BUILDING.

OKAY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DRIVEWAY AND THE GARAGE SITUATIONS FOR FOR THAT PRODUCT, THE WAY THAT THE BUILDING ENVELOPE WAS SORT OF LAID OUT ON THE LOTS? YEAH.

AND THAT'S NOT FULLY DEVELOPED YET.

AS FAR AS ON THE PRODUCT SIDE OF HOW THOSE GARAGES AND DRIVEWAYS WOULD WOULD APPEAR.

WE HAVE BUILT PROPERTIES IN THE PAST ON THIS SIZE LOTS WITHIN FLAGSTAFF, BUT IT WOULD BE A MODIFICATION, LET'S SAY, OF THOSE DESIGNS.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE FRENCH FRONT PORCH WOULD BE A BIG COMPONENT OF THAT AS WELL.

BUT THE VARIATION IN THE GARAGE DOOR SETBACK HAS NOT BEEN TOTALLY DETERMINED YET AS FAR AS THE OFFSET FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND THE PORCH AND ALL THAT.

BUT THAT WAS KIND OF THE IDEA THERE TO HAVE YOU KNOW SOME RELIEF OFF OF THE FRONT, FROM THE FRONT OF THE PORCH TO THE GARAGE FACE.

OKAY. IS THERE, WILL THERE BE ENOUGH ROOM FOR DRIVEWAY PARKING? YEAH I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE ULTIMATE END PRODUCT THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE.

AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

WE'RE BELIEVING THAT THERE WILL BE.

THERE'S A PRETTY BIG LOT COVERAGE THAT'S AVAILABLE THERE, BUT THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE RESOURCE PROTECTION PLAN OR THE TREE SURVEY, BASICALLY THAT'S IN THE PRE PLAT SOME OF THOSE LOTS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KIND OF GET CREATIVE TO TRY TO AVOID IMPACTING THOSE TREES SO YOU'LL SEE SOME

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SO YEAH, AS YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE BLUE LINES ON THE MAP, THAT'S THAT'S UP RIGHT NOW.

THAT WAS KIND OF THE REASON.

SO BY DOING THAT, MAY AFFECT OBVIOUSLY THE FRONT SETBACK OR THE FRONT LOOK OF SOME OF THOSE HOMES.

IF YOU LOOK AT LIKE LOT 15, FOR INSTANCE, IT'S GOT KIND OF A UNIQUE STEP IN THE BUILDING ENVELOPE.

SO SOME OF THEM WILL BE SPECIFIC TO THE LOT THAT THE RESOURCES ARE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DICTATING HOW THE HOUSE WILL HAVE TO BE LAID OUT IN THERE.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE.

YOU KNOW, CONTIGUOUS OR, YOU KNOW, THE SAME DESIGN ON EVERY LOT.

THOSE RESOURCES WILL CREATE SOME VARIETY IN THERE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY.

NO. THANKS FOR ADDRESSING THAT.

I WAS A LITTLE PUZZLED BY THAT AS WELL AS I AS I LOOKED AT THAT.

AND I WAS JUST CONCERNED, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, BEING MEDIUM DENSITY AND, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A PARKING GARAGE, PARKING DRIVEWAY PARKING FOR THESE RESIDENTS? AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY GREAT PRODUCT AND SMALLER PRODUCT, MUCH NEEDED PRODUCT.

SO THAT WAS EXCITING.

BUT I WAS ALSO KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

I KNOW LIKE OVER IN PRESIDIO WHERE THINGS ARE PRETTY DENSE IN THERE, THEY HAVE A LOT OF PARKING ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN I JUST, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOPE THAT MAYBE AS CC&RS ARE DEVELOPED, THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME OCCUPANCY RESTRICTIONS AND MAYBE A RESTRICTION ON SHORT TERM RENTALS JUST SO THAT THEY COULD ADDRESS THOSE SORTS OF PARKING ISSUES AND CAR ISSUES AND THAT THE TYPES OF HOME BUYERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REALLY EXCITED BY THIS PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, YOUNG FAMILIES AND FULL TIME RESIDENTS WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A CHANCE TO TO BUY ONE OF THESE HOMES.

I KNOW WHERE I'M AT IN OUR CC&RS.

IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET CARS CHANGED WITH CURRENT LEGISLATION IN RECENT COURT CASES.

AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THOSE DEFINITIONS INTO ACCOUNT WITH INTENSIVE INTENT OF USAGE RIGHT FROM THE START WHEN THEY WRITE THOSE.

SO THAT'S JUST MY $0.02 ON THAT.

BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR THE DESCRIPTION AND LISTENING TO MY COMMENTS.

YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY MORE? ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. I'D LIKE TO.

AND ALSO, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AT THIS POINT ON THIS PROJECT? I'LL LOOK AT THE.

LIST OF PEOPLE IF THERE'S A HAND-RAISED.

I DON'T SEE ANY.

YOU DON'T SEE ANYBODY.

SO I ASSUME THERE ARE NONE.

AND SO WE WOULD BE READY FOR A MOTION THAT THIS AT THIS POINT, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS CASE.

I CAN MAKE A MOTION.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER NORTON.

LET'S SEE. I MOVE TO ARE WE APPROVING? LET ME SEE. ARE WE MOVING THIS FORWARD? I MOVE TO APPROVE PZ1500115-23.

ADORA PHASE TWO TIMBER SKY PRELIMINARY PLAT ACCORDING TO THE FINDINGS.

OKAY. WE WOULD BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

OKAY. RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. I'M SORRY.

DID YOU LIST THE CASE NUMBER? I DID. OKAY, GREAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER MANDINO, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SO THIS MOTION PASSES.

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SO IT'S A SHORT MEETING.

DO WE HAVE ANY MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS, EITHER FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OR TO THE COMMISSIONERS FROM STAFF? NONE FROM STAFF.

OKAY. WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I THINK WE'RE READY TO ADJOURN THE VERY SHORT MEETING.

SHORT AND SWEET. THANK YOU.

THANKS YOU EVERYONE.

YEP. SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS.

THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT. GOOD NIGHT.

GOOD NIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.