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ALL RIGHT. IT IS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 11, 2022.
[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this work session, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]
OUR CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION CALLING TO ORDER.NOTICE THE PUBLIC THAT WE MAY A COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LEGAL ADVICE ON ANY OF THE AGENDIZED ITEMS. ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS, WILL YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE? THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, OUR MISSION STATEMENT.
THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN OUR LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
THESE LANDS STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS, BORDER MOUNTAINS SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.
WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.
WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE AS HOME.
THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING ONLINE AT THIS TIME.
SO WE'RE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE.
[5. Review of Draft Agenda for the October 18, 2022 City Council Meeting Citizens wishing to speak on agenda items not specifically called out by the City Council may submit a speaker card for their items of interest to the recording clerk.]
REVIEW OF DRAFT AGENDA FOR THE OCTOBER 18, 2022 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS ANY ABOUT THAT? OH, BUT I AM SEEING A YELLOW FLAG IN THE BACK FOR AN ONLINE COMMENT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.
YES, MAYOR, I HAVE MICHELLE JAMES.
MICHELLE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MICHELLE. MICHELLE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? MICHELLE. MICHELLE, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOU OFF THIS PRESENTER AND REDO IT AND SEE IF THAT HELPS.
MS.. JAMES, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF? YES, THANK YOU.
FOR ASSISTING ME AND GETTING ON HERE.
I DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I'M PULLING UP HERE RIGHT NOW.
SO MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FRIENDS OF FLAGSTAFF FUTURE.
I'M HERE TODAY TO REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL SLOW DOWN AND APPROVE THE APPROVAL.
SLOW DOWN THE APPROVAL PROCESS TIMELINE AS PROPOSED BY NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTH CARE AT THE SEPTEMBER 29TH COUNCIL RETREAT, THIS NAH PROPOSED TIMELINE SEEKS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVAL IN NOVEMBER AND FIVE FINAL COUNCIL APPROVAL BY DECEMBER 13TH OF THIS YEAR.
AT THE COUNCIL RETREAT, MANY OF YOU EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE NAH PROPOSED RUSH TIMELINE.
THESE INCLUDE COMMITMENTS BY NAH ON ISSUES SUCH AS TRANSPORTATION, ROADWAY DESIGN, INTERSECTION DESIGN, PUBLIC TRANSIT, FIRE SERVICE AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT THE EXISTING CAMPUS. ADDITIONAL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE THE NEED FOR A TRAVEL DEMAND MANAGEMENT PLAN, ADDRESSING THE CLIMATE AND HOUSING EMERGENCIES, ADHERING TO THE CLIMATE NEUTRALITY PLAN, PROVIDING RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND COMPLIANCE WITH DARK SKY REGULATIONS.
IT WAS CLEAR AT THE PUBLIC MEETING HELD BY NAH VIA ZOOM LAST NIGHT THAT THE PUBLIC HAS MANY OF THE SAME CONCERNS RELATED TO MITIGATION MEASURES THAT CITY STAFF HAVE IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING MORE INFORMATION AND WRITTEN COMMITMENTS FROM NAH.
F-CUBED FEELS THAT MANY OF THE QUESTIONS RAISED AT LAST NIGHT'S PUBLIC MEETING WERE INADEQUATELY ANSWERED, AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED AT THIS MEETING WAS MISLEADING. FOR EXAMPLE, A WRITTEN SLIDE IN THE NAH PRESENTATION SAID THAT THE PROJECT HAD BEEN GIVEN THE GO AHEAD BY THE FLAGSTAFF SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT.
AS WE ALL KNOW, THIS IS UNTRUE.
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NOW ABOUT HOW THIS PROJECT WILL DEVELOP IN THE YEARS TO COME.OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS TO WEIGH THE PROJECT IMPACTS, DISCUSS THEIR CONCERNS, GET DETAILED ANSWERS TO THEIR QUESTIONS, AND ENSURE THAT MITIGATION MEASURES ARE WELL THOUGHT OUT AND INCLUDED IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE LONG TERM IMPACTS ON FLAGSTAFF ARE TOO IMPORTANT.
THE MULTIPLE ISSUES I'VE MENTIONED HERE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED ADEQUATELY BEFORE A REZONING APPROVAL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MICHELLE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S A LAST COMMENT.
THANK YOU. THEN WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, OCTOBER WORK ANNIVERSARIES.
[6. October Work Anniversaries Recognize employees who are celebrating their work anniversaries in October]
THE CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL. GOOD AFTERNOON.I THINK SHANNON ANDERSON IS GOING TO LEAD US IN THIS VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.
SHANNON, ARE YOU READY? HA! IN PERSON.
SHANNON ANDERSON I FEEL EXCITED.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL SHANNON ANDERSON.
I'VE GOT A PRESENTATION FOR YOU TODAY TO SHARE OUR OCTOBER WORKAVERSARIES.
SO STARTING WITH OUR FIVE YEAR ANNIVERSARIES, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE, MATTHEW SEDILLO WORKING IN OUR STREETS OPERATIONS TEAM AND JEREMY DEGEYTER, WHO WORKS FOR AS A PROJECT MANAGER IN CITY ENGINEERING, ARE SOME OF OUR FIVE YEAR RECIPIENTS THIS MONTH.
WE ALSO HAVE MICHAEL STAUDER, WHO ALSO WORKS IN STREETS AND APRIL WEBB, WHO WORKS IN OUR POLICE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER AS A SUPERVISOR.
MOVING ON TO OUR TEN YEAR ANNIVERSARIES, WE'VE GOT FELICIA CARILLO.
SHE'S ONE OF OUR RECREATION LEADERS IN PROS.
OUR VERY OWN BRANDI SUDA, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, AND CAROLYN OLGUIN, WHO IS A LIBRARY PAGE.
AND THEN PATRICK BROWN, WHO'S IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM, IN CASE YOU WANT TO GIVE HIM A AIR HIGH FIVE CELEBRATING 15 YEARS PURCHASING DIRECTOR AND THEN OUR 25 YEAR PLUS TO KICK US OFF.
MARTIN IS CELEBRATING HIS 25 YEARS.
HE CAME TO FLAGSTAFF FROM THE MIDWEST VIA CHICAGO.
HE'S BEEN A WONDERFUL AND VERSATILE COWORKER OVER HIS WINDING PATH THROUGH THE CITY.
HE SERVED IN THE ROLE OF THE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNER FOR THE FMPO.
HE HIT HIS STRIDE PROFESSIONALLY.
AND ALL THINGS ALTERNATIVE MODES ARE HIS TRUE PASSION.
WHILE AT THE FMPO, HE CELEBRATED THE COMPLETION OF THE 50TH MILE OF THE FUTS TRAILS AND THE PLANNING AND ULTIMATE CONSTRUCTION OF MULTIPLE FUTS TRAILS SUCH AS ARIZONA TRAIL OF MCMILLAN MESA AND THE MATT KELLY BRIDGE OVER CEDAR AVENUE.
IN 2019, HE TRANSITIONED BACK TO THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, AND THIS IS WHEN HE JOINED CITY ENGINEERING AS ONE OF THE FIRST MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNERS AS PART OF THAT GROUP. HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN DEVELOPING THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE PLANS THAT BECAME PART OF PROPOSITION 419.
WITH THIS SUCCESS, THE BALLOT ENSURED THAT THE CITY CONTINUES TO HAVE RELIABLE SOURCE OF FUNDING TO IMPLEMENT THE 20 YEAR PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE PROGRAMS. LATELY MARTIN'S BEEN FOCUSING HIS TIME ON THE, TO COMPLETE THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
I WAS LOOKING ON THE SCREEN TO SEE IF YOU WERE UP THERE.
IT'S THE PRICE IS RIGHT. THANK YOU, SHANNON.
MY WIFE, DONNA AND I CAME HERE FROM CHICAGO 25 YEARS AGO.
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AND TO MAKE A SHORT STORY LONG.25 YEARS HAVE COME AND GONE, AND WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION AT THIS POINT OF OF LEAVING HERE.
AND I TEND TO THINK IT'S THE LATTER.
THIS REALLY IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LOTS OF CHALLENGES, BUT WE HAVE A TON OF OPPORTUNITIES TOO, THERE'S THERE'S A HUGE UPSIDE, AND I THINK IT'S UNLIKELY THAT YOU'LL HAVE ME FOR ANOTHER 25 YEARS. BUT WHATEVER TIME WE HAVE LEFT, I HOPE I CAN BE PART OF CONTRIBUTING TO MAKING THIS COMMUNITY MOVE FORWARD.
ALL RIGHT. SO NEXT WE HAVE BOBBY.
HE STARTED WITH US IN OCTOBER OF 97.
HE MOVED FROM THE ROLE OF FIREFIGHTER TO ENGINEER IN 2001 AND THEN ON TO CAPTAIN IN 2008.
HE'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THE FLAGSTAFF FIRE DEPARTMENT'S SENIOR LEADERS.
SO OUR NEXT EMPLOYEE, RALPH RALPH HERNANDEZ, HE STARTED WORK FOR THE CITY AGAIN 25 YEARS AGO.
WE HAVE QUITE A FEW HITTING THEIR 25 MARK THIS MONTH.
RALPH WORKS IN WASTEWATER COLLECTIONS AS A MAINTENANCE WORKER AND HE STARTED WORKING ON HIS 80 CU WASTEWATER COLLECTION CERTIFICATION AND HAS ACHIEVED THAT THROUGH A GRADE FOUR.
THAT COULD BE A GOOD TRIVIA GAME.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE FUN. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO RALPH ON YOUR 25 YEARS.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE HE WASN'T IN THE ROOM WITH US.
AND THE NEXT WILL HAVE LIEUTENANT DA.
HE STARTED WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN OCTOBER OF 96.
SO 26 YEARS CELEBRATING WITH THE CITY.
HE SPENT SEVERAL YEARS IN PATROL, SERVED AS ONE OF OUR FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS.
WE REFER TO THEM AS FTO'S AND ALSO PHLEBOTOMY OFFICER.
HE WAS ALSO SERVING ON THE STATE GANG TASK FORCE AT THE TIME.
HE TRANSFERRED TO CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS IN 2005 AND PROMOTED TO SERGEANT IN 2012.
HE THEN MOVED ON TO LIEUTENANT, MOST RECENTLY IN 2021.
TODAY, OFFICER RYAN DARR SERVES AS THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION SECTION.
HE SERVES AS AN EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBER FOR VICTIM WITNESS SERVICES, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FATALITY REVIEW BOARD, AS WELL AS THE CRIME FREE MULTI HOUSING PROGRAM. HE HAS SEVERAL COMMENDATIONS IN HIS FILE FOR HIS SERVICE, AND HE'S ALSO RECEIVED ONE OF OUR CITY MANAGER'S EXCELLENCE AWARDS.
SO CONGRATULATION TO RYAN ON HIS 26 YEARS HERE WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.
[APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT. WE ALSO HAVE ERIC CAPUTO.
HE'S ONE OF OUR BATTALION CHIEFS WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
HE ACTUALLY STARTED WITH THE FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY VERY COMMON, BUT WORKED WITH THEM AS AN EVIDENCE TECHNICIAN, THEN A POLICE OFFICER.
AND THEN IN THE CORPORAL DETECTIVE ROLE, HE MOVED OVER TO THE FLAGSTAFF FIRE DEPARTMENT AS A FIREFIGHTER IN 2001, PROMOTED TO AN ENGINEER WITH THAT WORKGROUP IN 2008 ONTO CAPTAIN IN 2011, AND MOST RECENTLY HE BECAME A BATTALION CHIEF IN 2018.
ERIC HAS SERVED AS A MEMBER OF THE SWAT EMT.
I BELIEVE ERIC SAID HE WAS GOING TO BE HERE TODAY JUST TAKING A LOOK.
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HE MAY HAVE BEEN CALLED OUT.WELL, CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. CAPUTO. [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN MARTHA.
THIS IS SOME OF THE INFORMATION THEY'VE SHARED WITH US ABOUT MARTHA, HER VERSATILITY AND ADOPTION TO MEET THE MANY CHALLENGES OVER HER 32 YEARS AT THE COUNTY CORRECTIONAL FACILITY LIBRARY.
THAT'S A LONG TERM EMPLOYMENT, DEFINITELY.
SHE ALSO ENSURES ACQUISITIONS ARE PROVIDED TO INMATES IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SHE'S COURTEOUS, PATIENT AND RESPECTFUL, BOTH WITH INMATES AND PRISON AUTHORITIES.
SHE'S BILINGUAL WITH A FLUENCY IN SPANISH, WHICH IS HELPFUL WHEN TRANSLATIONS ARE REQUESTED WITH THE SPANISH SPEAKING INMATES INVOLVING ACCESS TO THOSE LIBRARY MATERIALS. SHE RESOLVES MATTERS WITH THE COOL AND CALM DEMEANOR AND IS ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP WITH TASKS THAT ARISE, INCLUDING SORTING OUT MATERIALS COMING BACK FROM INMATE SHAKEDOWNS.
ARE YOU WITH US ONLINE? YES, I AM. HI, MARTHA.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS TO COUNSEL? WELL, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S 32 YEARS, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS, MARTHA.
SO THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.
WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT MONTH.
WITH THAT, WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, OUR CITY MANAGER REPORT.
[7. City Manager Report Information Only]
WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS, BUT I'LL WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE REPORT FOR THOSE.THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL? YEAH, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
THESE REPORTS GENERALLY DON'T GARNER PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE THAT.
SO WITH RESPECT TO THE REPORT, JUST A FEW TIDBITS, AS WE ALWAYS DO, AND IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, I WANT TO GIVE SOME PROPS HERE TO OUR FIREFIGHTERS WHO HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING SEVERAL PUBLIC EDUCATION EVENTS.
A COUPLE OF NICE PHOTOS FOR YOU TO ENJOY WITH OUR FIRE PERSONNEL, WORKING WITH THE YOUNG STUDENTS EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS WITH RESPECT TO OUR.
POLICE DEPARTMENT. I WILL NOTE AGAIN PARTICIPATION IN OUTREACH AND EDUCATION.
SERGEANT BROCKMAN HELPING OUT WITH THE DRIVER'S ED PROGRAM AT COCONINO HIGH SCHOOL.
ALSO, ASSISTANCE WITH THE OCTOBERFEST EVENT IN THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS.
THANK YOU TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU TO CHIEF MUSSELMAN AND THE TEAM FOR HELPING OUT IN THE TOWN HALL FORUM THAT OCCURRED LAST THURSDAY ON THE VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC OF NOISE OR POTENTIAL NOISE ORDINANCE.
MOVING ON TO PUBLIC WORKS SOME SOME ODDS AND ENDS THERE, BUT I WILL POINT OUT ONGOING PROGRESS WITH RESPECT TO THE REPLACEMENT OF OUR STREETLIGHTS. THANK YOU TO THE STREET LIGHTING TEAM AND A COUPLE OF NICE PHOTOS FOR YOU TO ENJOY ON THE VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT UPSTREAM. WE CALL THIS THE SCHULTZ CREEK BASINS.
THIS HAS BEEN JUST A WONDERFUL PROJECT IN TERMS OF EVERYTHING COMING TOGETHER.
LAND OWNERSHIP BEING HELD BY THE CITY.
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THE LOCATION BEING JUST RIGHT, JUST SUITABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE INTENDED PURPOSE OF DETENTION OF FLOODWATERS, WHICH IS WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT NOW, OF COURSE, THAN IT WAS.THIS DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE PIPELINE FIRE AND THE RESULTING BURN SCAR.
THE PROJECT IS WELL UNDERWAY AND IN FACT WE'LL SEE COMPLETION, WE THINK, THIS MONTH.
SO JUST A GREAT STORY AND A WORK IN PROGRESS.
THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT.
WE HAD A GOOD ALLIANCE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS AT THAT MEETING.
WE TALKED ABOUT BALLOT MEASURES, FLOODING UPDATES AND A DISCUSSION ABOUT RECRUITMENT, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, AN IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR ALL OF US THESE DAYS. SOME TIME AGO ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, BUT IT DID NOT MAKE MY LAST REPORT.
I, SHANNON AND I ATTENDED THAT.
YOU HAVE SOME NICE IMAGES TO ENJOY IN THE REPORT.
SPECIFIC ACKNOWLEDGMENT TO BATTALION CHIEF KYLE DENHAM.
EARL CALLANDER, WHO WAS PROMOTED TO THE RANK OF BATTALION CHIEF ASSIGNED TO TRAINING.
AND CHRIS FENNELL, WHO WAS HIRED TO THE RANK OF DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF OF OPERATIONS.
WE HAVE AN UPCOMING CITY COUNTY MEETING ON OCTOBER 17TH.
WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT FLOODING AND BALLOT MEASURES.
ALSO, A REGIONAL PLAN UPDATE AND RELATED TOPICS.
AN UPDATE JUST ON SOMETHING THAT WE CALLED OUT FOR DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND THAT IS THE CITY LIAISON OR APPOINTMENT APPOINTMENT AS A CITY LIAISON TO THE HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE ORGANIZATION TO THAT BOARD.
RECRUITMENTS. AN OFFER HAS BEEN MADE AND ACCEPTED BY OUR NEW CITY ENGINEER.
STAY TUNED AS WE WILL BE POSTING THAT NAME AND PHOTO UPCOMING.
HIS START DATE WILL BE OCTOBER 31ST.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO DIVISION LEADERS STARTING WITH US ON OCTOBER 31ST.
COUNCIL, YOU'LL BE SEEING SOME NEW FACES SOON, SO HELP IS ON THE WAY AND THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
WHAT ELSE? IN A KONA MEETING ON THE FIFTH, A WATER CONFERENCE THAT IS CURRENTLY TAKING PLACE, THE CITY IS BEING WELL REPRESENTED BY MR. BRAD HILL. OTHERS ARE THERE AS WELL.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WITH RESPECT TO MY REPORT, THANK YOU TO VICE MAYOR SUITE AND A COUPLE OF NICE PHOTOS OF THE LASAGNA THAT WAS ENJOYED WITH MANY OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES ON OCTOBER 5TH BETWEEN SHIFTS.
IT WAS A WONDERFUL EVENT AND I THINK GREATLY APPRECIATED.
OKAY. THAT'S IT FOR MY REPORT.
IF WE CAN TURN THIS OVER TO OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS TEAM FOR THEIR MONTHLY UPDATE.
VICE MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS ELI REISNER, CITY OF FLAGSTAFF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT MANAGER, SENIOR LEAD HERE TO GO OVER THE CAPITAL PROJECTS MONTHLY UPDATE FOR AUGUST 22 OR TO REPORT COMPLETED BY STAFF IN EARLY SEPTEMBER AND INCLUDE INCLUDES UPDATES FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST.
THANK YOU. SORRY, JUST ONE SEC.
OKAY. CAN TRY TO RESHARE IT HERE, IF THAT'LL HELP.
THAT'S. TO EVERYONE ON THE ONLINE MEETING.
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WE APOLOGIZE. WE STEPPED OUT, SO WE STOPPED AND RESTARTED THE MEETING.ELI, COULD YOU GO AHEAD AND RESHARE? YEAH. I ALREADY. SO FOR THE FIRST PROJECT IS OUR BOULDER POINT UNIVERSITY TRAFFIC CALMING NUMBER 13 ON THE MAP. THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION APPROVED DESIGNS FOR TRAFFIC CIRCLES IN THE BOULDER POINT NEIGHBORHOOD AND TWO LOCATIONS ON UNIVERSITY AVENUE AT THE MAJESTIC ROAD AND TOM [INAUDIBLE] INTERSECTIONS ON JUNE 1ST, 2022.
THE NEXT PROJECT IS SPRUCE WASH CEDAR TO DORTHA AND DORTHA INLET.
THIS RESULTED IN CLEANUP AND REMOVAL OF FLOOD DEBRIS, REWORKING ABC AT CURB LOCATIONS AND POTENTIALLY OVER SATURATING AND FURTHER DESTABILIZING THE ALREADY UNSTABLE SEPARATE SOILS BELOW THE ROADWAY AREA.
EVEN PRIOR TO THE FLOODING EVENTS, BOTH PROJECTS REQUIRED SIGNIFICANT ROADWAY UPGRADE STABILIZATION ON ALL RECONSTRUCTED STREETS WITHIN THE PROJECTS PRIOR TO ASPHALT PAVING. PAVING PORTIONS OF THESE PROJECTS HAS SINCE OCCURRED IN SEPTEMBER ON THE NAVAJO DRIVE FROM BIEL TO MURRAY PORTION OF THE PHASE ONE PROJECT AND ON CRESCENT DRIVE FROM MEAD TO TARKINGTON PORTION OF THE PHASE TWO PROJECT AND IS SCHEDULED TO OCCUR AT THE END OF OCTOBER FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE NAVAJO TARKINGTON AND TARKINGTON SIDE STREETS PORTIONS OF THE PHASE TWO PROJECT.
THE CITY HAS PARTNERED WITH ADOT, BNSF, RAILWAY MOUNTAIN LINE, AMTRAK AND THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR THE OVERALL DOWNTOWN MILE PROJECT AND ARE PROJECTS THAT INCLUDE THE RIO DE FLAG FLOOD CONTROL PROJECT, WHICH I'LL BE GOING OVER BRIEFLY THE RIO DE FLAG PEDESTRIAN TUNNEL PROJECT, THE LONE TREE OVERPASS PROJECT, WHICH I WILL ALSO BE GOING OVER.
THE FLORENCE. WELL, THE FLORENCE THE WALNUT PEDESTRIAN UNDERPASS PROJECT, THE MELTON BRIDGE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND THE MOUNTAIN LION DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER PROJECT.
IN MAY 2022, THE CITY APPLIED FOR A MULTIMODAL PROGRAM DISCRETIONARY GRANT THROUGH US .INFRARURALPROGRAM FOR THE DOWNTOWN MALL PROJECT.
ON SEPTEMBER 12, THE CITY RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF THE GRANT AWARD IN THE AMOUNT OF $32.5 MILLION.
WITH THAT FUNDING SECURED, THE DOWNTOWN MALL PROJECT IS NOW FUNDED AND WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF AWARD FOR THE DESIGN SERVICES CONTRACT THAT WILL BE PRESENTED BEFORE COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 18TH.
THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE RIO DE FLAG FLOOD CONTROL PROJECT NUMBER 16 ON THE MAP.
THE PURPOSE OF THE RIO DE FLAG FLOOD CONTROL PROJECT IS TO REMOVE THE HAZARDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE 100 YEAR STORM EVENT, WHICH INCLUDE PROPERTY DAMAGE, LIFE SAFETY CONCERNS AND COMMUNITY ECONOMIC IMPACTS.
FROM RESEARCH CONDUCTED BY THE ARMY CORP.
IT WAS DETERMINED THAT A SIGNIFICANT FLOOD WOULD DAMAGE APPROXIMATELY 1500 STRUCTURES VALUED AT OVER $916 MILLION AND CAUSE $93 MILLION IN ECONOMIC DAMAGES FOR A TOTAL IMPACT OF OVER $1 BILLION.
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WORK CONTINUED ON THIS PROJECT IN AUGUST TO REFINE THE DESIGN AND THE REAL ESTATE DOCUMENTS.THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE LONE TREE OVERPASS PROJECT NUMBER TEN ON THE MAP.
THE LONE TREE OVERPASS PROJECT WILL PROVIDE A GRADE SEPARATED CROSSING OVER THE FUTURE RIO DE FLAG DRAINAGE AND BNSF RAILWAY CORRIDOR FROM BUTLER AVENUE TO ROUTE 66.
WORK CONTINUED IN AUGUST ON THE PROJECT DESIGN IN ANTICIPATION OF THE 60% DESIGN SUBMITTAL SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 26, WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN RECEIVED.
ON AUGUST 24TH AND 25TH, THE CITY HELD AN ALL AGENCY WORKSHOP IN FLAGSTAFF TO REVIEW PROJECT DESIGN AND DISCUSS COORDINATION OF THE LONE TREE OVERPASS AND THE RIO DE FLAG PROJECTS.
THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE LIBRARY ENTRANCE PROJECT, WHICH IS NUMBER 11 ON THE MAP.
CONSTRUCTION IS CURRENTLY ONGOING WITH COMPLETION ESTIMATED FOR THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.
THE NEXT AND LAST PROJECT IS PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS AT BUTLER, BEAVER AND BUTLER, SAN FRANCISCO.
WSP HAS BEEN AWARDED A DESIGN CONTRACT FOR A 15% LEVEL DESIGN FEASIBILITY STUDY.
THIS CONCLUDES THE CAPITAL PROJECTS MONTHLY UPDATE FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST.
WE'LL BE BACK AT COUNCIL IN EARLY NOVEMBER WITH PROJECT UPDATES FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER.
THOSE COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
CANCEL. COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.
ELI. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND COMMENTS.
SO IN REGARDS TO THE ROUNDABOUTS THAT YOU MENTIONED, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S AN EMPHASIS BEING PLACED ON ADDRESSING THE BIKE LANE CONCERNS AND THAT THEY'RE NOT OVERLAPPING WITH THE CAR LANE LIKE THEY CURRENTLY ARE.
AND IN REGARDS TO THE UNIVERSITY OF HULA ROUNDABOUT.
THERE WAS A VALUATION MENTIONED THAT WAS DONE IN ON SEPTEMBER 8TH.
ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE VALUATION THAT WAS DONE AND ANY OF THE NUMBERS THAT WERE GIVEN? LAST WE HEARD WAS, I THINK BEFORE OUR BREAK, TREVOR SPOKE ABOUT THE VALUATION PROCESS, THAT THE COST WAS GOING TO BE DRAMATICALLY LESS THAN WHAT WE WERE BEING QUOTED. AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME NUMBERS TO SHARE.
SO, ARE YOU SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE BOULDER POINT TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECTS OR UNIVERSITY ROUNDABOUT? OH, OKAY. SO THE THE BEULAH UNIVERSITY ROUNDABOUT PROJECT.
SO WHAT WE DID BACK IN JUNE, WE GAVE AN UPDATE TO COUNCIL.
WE ARE CURRENTLY EXPLORING VALUE ENGINEERING IDEAS.
WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT EFFORT.
OUR PLAN IS TO FINISH THAT UP IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND THEN WE WILL INCORPORATE THOSE CHANGES INTO THE GNP, WHICH WILL BE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL SOMETIME IN DECEMBER IN ORDER TO MEET OUR SCHEDULE TO START CONSTRUCTION IN THE SPRING OF 2023. OKAY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STILL ON THAT SAME TRACK.
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VALUE ENGINEERING IDEAS AND WE WILL WE WILL BRING THAT FORWARD.AND LASTLY, THE RIGHT SIZING EFFORT ON FREMONT TO GO FROM FOUR LANES TO TWO LANES.
IS THAT A CONVERSATION THAT IS.
DOES ANYONE KNOW THE TIMELINE? DOES THAT GO BACK BEFORE THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND DOES THAT COME TO THE COUNCIL AT SOME POINT? SO, YOUR HONOR, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI THAT IS A A PROJECT THAT TRANSPORTATION HAS BEEN UNDERTAKING.
AND I'M HOPING JEFF BAUMAN MIGHT BE EITHER ONLINE OR IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO HELP CLARIFY AND MAYBE GIVE SOME MORE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. ARE YOU IN LINE? YEAH, I'M HERE. THANKS, TREVOR.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
JEFF BAUMAN, CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND INTERIM.
CITY ENGINEER. YEAH, THE FREMONT BOULEVARD.
YEAH, WE COULD CALL IT RIGHTSIZING OR LANE DIET.
IT'S ACTUALLY A TRADITIONAL LANE DIET GOING FROM FOUR LANES TO THREE.
THAT'S THE DEFINITION, ACTUALLY, OF A LANE DIET.
WE WERE THAT PROJECT CAME THROUGH CITY STAFF LATE IN CALENDAR YEAR 21 AND WAS SCHEDULED.
WE COLLECTED DATA AND WAS SCHEDULED WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY OF 22.
AND THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION GAVE US DIRECTION OR RECOMMENDATION TO RESTRIPE THAT ROAD.
WE HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF PUBLIC CITIZENS, MANY OF THE SAME THAT HAVE BEEN EMAILING THIS WEEK AND GAVE US DIRECTION TO RESTRICT THE ROAD WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OR RESTRICTING PLAN AND TRYING TO FIND FUNDING FOR THAT OR A WAY TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO ANOTHER PROJECT LIKE A SUMMER PAVING PROGRAM NEXT SUMMER.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE PLANS.
TYPICALLY THE WAY THIS WORKS IS THE COMMISSION GIVES US THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND WE GO DO IT AND AFTER IT'S DONE, WE COLLECT DATA, WE NOTIFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE FIND OUT IF IT WORKED OR NOT.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC INTEREST AND I'M SORTING THROUGH ALL THE EMAILS.
IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE THAT PROJECT COME BEFORE COUNCIL BEFORE WE MOVE AHEAD WITH THE PLAN? I'M SURE THERE COULD BE.
YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MECHANISM WOULD BE, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOW.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY WE COULDN'T DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO HUDDLE ON AND TALK ABOUT, JUST GIVEN MAYOR AND COUNCIL, GIVEN THE SCHOOL AND THE PARK AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CONCERNS OF THE PEDESTRIANS AND THE FAMILIES AND THE EMAILS WE'VE RECEIVED, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.
THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER FOR THE THUMBS UP.
THANK YOU, JEFF. AND THANK YOU, TREVOR AND ELI.
WITH THAT. I'M NOT SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE ON TO SUSTAINABILITY.
YES, I'LL HOLD THAT AFTER THE FULL CITY MANAGER REPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS, SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR.
THERE ARE SIX NEW STALLS AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC USE AND SIMILAR TO OTHER CITY SITED ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING LOCATIONS, THERE CURRENTLY IS NO FEE FOR THE USE AT THIS TIME.
I'M EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER COLLABORATION, THE CLIMATE RESILIENCE PROJECT, WHICH IS A COLLABORATIVE INITIATIVE BETWEEN THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE AND THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.
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THAT'S A HARD WORD, COLLABORATIVELY LEARN AND DISCUSS CLIMATE IMPACTS AND VULNERABILITIES AND FLAGSTAFF.AND WE HAD ABOUT 30 COMMUNITY MEMBERS PARTICIPATE IN THIS FACILITATED DISCUSSION.
AND THERE WAS A NICE WRITE UP IN THE DAILY SUN THAT IS HYPERLINKED IN THEIR REPORT.
SUSTAINABILITY ALSO LAUNCHED AND I JUST SCROLL DOWN JUST A BIT BECAUSE I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, BUT WE LAUNCHED OUR SUSTAINABLE MINDED BUSINESS PROGRAM AND THIS IS A FREE RESOURCE AND CONSULTATION PROGRAM THAT WILL HELP BUSINESSES CONSERVE RESOURCES AND SAVE MONEY.
AND OUR FIRST PHASE OF THE PROGRAM REALLY IS FOCUSING ON SHORT TERM RENTALS.
SO WE'VE CREATED RESOURCE GUIDES NOT ONLY FOR VISITORS WHO ARE COMING TO FLAGSTAFF AND STAYING IN SHORT TERM RENTALS, BUT ALSO FOR THE PROPERTY MANAGERS OR OWNERS. SO THE LINK TO THOSE GUIDES ARE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK.
AND I JUST WANT TO HAVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE TOURISM COMMISSION AS WELL AS OUR BUSINESS ADVISORY GROUP WHO HELPED VET THIS INITIATIVE WITH OUR TEAM. ALL RIGHT.
NOW FOCUSING ON CLIMATE ACTION SPECIFICALLY, WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO CONTINUE OUR WORK WITH THE YOUTH CLIMATE ADVISORY GROUP AND THEY ARE UNDERWAY, VERY ENERGETIC AND MAKING BIG PLANS TO RECRUIT MORE STUDENTS AND THEY ARE PLANNING A FALL EVENT AND CREATING EDUCATIONAL PRESENTATIONS ON CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, TARGET AREAS AND WORKING IN WITHIN THEIR SCHOOLS ON CLIMATE ACTION PLANS.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTNERSHIP AND OUR CONTINUED COLLABORATION WITH FUSD AND AGAIN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR FRIENDS AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY. WE ARE HOSTING A YOUTH CLIMATE BOOK CLUB AND THIS IS STARTING THIS MONTH IN OCTOBER.
AND THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUTH TO READ AND DISCUSS BOOKS.
I JUST WANT TO PICK UP A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS HERE.
WE ARE ALSO WORKING TO CREATE REVISIONS TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN WE HAD MENTIONED TO COUNCIL LAST TIME WE WERE UP IN FRONT OF YOU WITH AN INFORMATIONAL UPDATE THAT WE WOULD BE BRINGING FORWARD REVISIONS TO MERGE THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THIS COUNCIL WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN.
SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BRING IN MORE TARGET AREAS AND MAKE THOSE TWO ADOPTED PLANS MORE SEAMLESS.
AND MOVING ON DOWN TO COMMUNITY STEWARDS AND REALLY EXCITED TO.
BUT SONOMA, WHO HAD BEEN OUR STREAM STEWARDS COORDINATOR THROUGH THE AMERICORPS VISTA PROGRAM, SONOMA BOYNTON, HAS ACCEPTED A SECOND TERM WITH US AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH WATER SERVICES AND STORMWATER TO BRING PROGRAMING TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND THIS IS IN COLLABORATION ALSO WITH FRIENDS OF THE RIO, OUR SEPTEMBER LITTER CLEANUPS.
YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE SLIDE DECK THAT WE HAD 193 VOLUNTEERS IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER WHO DEDICATED MORE THAN 350 HOURS OF THEIR TIME TO PICK UP LITTER IN OUR COMMUNITY AND COLLECTING OVER 25 BAGS OF TRASH AND ALMOST TEN BAGS OF RECYCLING.
AND FOR THE FIRST TIME INCLUDED THIS IS A LATE EDITION BUT IS ON THE SCREEN HERE ARE ENGAGE IN POWER AND ELEVATE GRANT, WHICH WAS AWARDED TO CATS COMMUNITY ACTION TEAM, HAD STARTED THE LITTER CLEANUPS.
AND AS A REMINDER, THIS PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO EMPOWER INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS OR THREATENED POTENTIALLY BY HOMELESSNESS TO EARN A LIVING WAGE AND ASSIST US IN PICKING UP LITTER IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO THAT'S LAUNCHED THIS MONTH.
AND WE HAD 16 VOLUNTEERS WHO'VE WORKED A TOTAL OF 29 HOURS PICKING UP 28 BAGS OF TRASH AND 13 BAGS OF RECYCLING AND INCLUDED AS A PHOTO OF OUR PARTICIPANTS THIS MONTH AND SCROLLING DOWN INTO FOOD SYSTEMS. THE SUSTAINABLE FLAG SERIES PREPARING YOUR GARDEN FOR WINTER WORKSHOP WAS HELD AT THE BONITO COMMUNITY GARDEN IN MID SEPTEMBER, AND WE PARTNERED WITH BIRDS AND
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NATIVE AMERICANS FOR COMMUNITY ACTION AND WE HAD ABOUT 20 COMMUNITY MEMBERS PARTICIPATE IN THAT WORKSHOP.WE ALSO CO-HOSTED A FRUIT GLEANING EVENT WITH FLAGSTAFF FOOD WEEK IN MID-SEPTEMBER IN COCONINO ESTATES AND COMMUNITIES COLLECTED COMMUNITY MEMBERS COLLECTED OVER £60 OF APPLES WHICH WERE THEN DONATED AND OFFER TO VOLUNTEERS IN OUR MATERIAL MANAGEMENT'S FOCUS AREAS.
OUR EXPERT COMPOSTING CERTIFICATION PROGRAM LAUNCHED IN EARLY SEPTEMBER, AND THIS IS A FREE PROGRAM.
AND I THINK I WILL JUST JUMP ON DOWN TO UPCOMING EVENTS.
I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN GAVE A COMMISSION UPDATE FOR US.
WE HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS COMING UP IN OCTOBER, AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT OUR FALL FESTIVAL ON OCTOBER 15TH, AND THIS IS REALLY OUR APPRECIATION TO OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AS WELL AS OUR VOLUNTEERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
STACY FOBAR WAS KIND ENOUGH TO POST A POTENTIAL MEETING QUORUM.
QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, NICOLE.
I JUST WONDERED WHAT WAS THE STATUS ON THE EQUITY ADVISORY GROUP OR IS THAT STILL BEING ADVERTISED AS DO YOU NEED HELP WITH ADVERTISING THAT OR WHERE'S THAT AT RIGHT NOW? WE HAVE THANK YOU FOR ASKING COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.
SO WE HOPE TO HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU NEXT MONTH.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
THANK YOU, AARON. THANK YOU, NICOLE.
ARE THERE ANY UPDATES ON THE YOUTH COMMISSION THAT YOU ALL WERE WORKING ON? WELL. SO THAT HAS REALLY.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI THAT HAS REALLY EVOLVED INTO THE YOUTH ADVISORY GROUP AND AFTER DISCUSSION INTERNALLY DUE TO THE RESTRICTIONS, IF YOU WILL, IN THE FORMAL COMMISSION PROCESS AND WORKING WITH YOUNG ADULTS, WE FELT THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE A LESS RESTRICTIVE PROCESS.
SO THAT'S OUR YOUTH ADVISORY GROUP REALLY HAS TAKEN THAT ROLE AND YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM THEM.
VERY GOOD. AND THEN SECONDLY, WITH THE PARTNERSHIP WITH CATS, WITH THE CLEAN UP, DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE ABLE TO PAY THE INDIVIDUALS WITH CASH OR IS IT DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS? COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
BUT THAT WAS WHAT OUR HOPE WAS.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE KATZ PROGRAM WILL BE EARNING MINIMUM WAGE.
AND THAT IS COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS NICOLE, COME BACK, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
AND I'M GLAD MISS STACEY [INAUDIBLE] IS IN THE ROOM.
JUST. JUST SHARING SOME INFORMATION THAT I GATHERED FROM THE RURAL TRANSPORTATION SUMMIT.
LAST MONTH IS FOR THE ARIZONA EV PLAN.
YES. SO BETWEEN THIS MONTH AND DECEMBER, THERE WILL BE LIKE STATEWIDE OUTREACH HOW TO SPEND THE $76.5 MILLION TO INSTALL HIGH EFFICIENT EV CHARGING STATIONS ACROSS THE STATE.
WHAT I'VE GATHERED SO FAR IS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT INSTALLING EVERY 50 MILES.
AND IN THE PRESENTATION BY MR. ED STYLINGS OF THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION OFFICE IN PHENIX.
SO THERE'S ONE IN MONTHS, MARK.
AND THEN THE NEXT STOP WILL BE TWIN ARROWS.
AND I KIND OF HAD LIKE SIDE CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF OUR ADOT LEADERS.
WHY DID YOU SKIP FLAGSTAFF? LIKE, WELL, FLAGSTAFF HAS ALREADY SOME CHARGING STATIONS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A HIGH EFFICIENT CHARGING STATION.
SO WHAT THEIR INTENTION IS BECAUSE IT'S TO PARTNER WITH PRIVATE INVESTORS AND DEVELOPERS, KIND OF MAXIMIZE AN EXISTING, LET'S SAY, A GASOLINE STATION OR A TRUCK STOP.
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AND SO AT LEAST BE INVOLVED WITH THAT OUTREACH OUTREACH PROCESS AND SEE IF WE COULD BRING SOME OF THOSE HIGH EFFICIENT CHARGING STATIONS HERE BECAUSE KIND OF MAKE A STRONG CASE.WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU DRIVE THROUGH FLAGSTAFF ON THE WAY TO THE GRAND CANYON AND.
YES, SO SO THAT'S THE AND THE EMAIL IS A-Z EV PLAN AT A-Z, DOT, DOT GOV.
AND THEN FOR ALSO LOOKING INTO SOME GRANT OPPORTUNITIES WITH AND THIS MAY ALSO BE BE INTERSPERSED WITH OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN THAT'S UP FOR APPROVAL SOON IS THE THE TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY PROGRAM WHICH ACTUALLY HIGHLY ENCOURAGED LOCAL PARTICIPATION.
IT'S 11.8 MILLION IN GRANT OPPORTUNITIES A YEAR.
AND OF COURSE THE LET'S KIND OF PAY ATTENTION TO SOME GUIDELINES AND POTENTIAL NOTICE OF FUNDING ABILITY FOR THE.
NEIGHBORHOOD EQUITY AND ACCESS GRANTS.
3 BILLION THAT HAS STRONG COMPONENT FOR DROUGHT AND CLIMATE.
AND I KNOW WE ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE IN TRYING TO BRING STATE AND FEDERAL DOLLARS TO ALL OF OUR LOCAL PROGRAMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS.
AND IF I MAY JUST ADD, REGARDING THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN THROUGH, AND WE ARE VERY MUCH KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT AND VOICING OUR PREFERENCES, BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING CLOSELY WITH APS TO SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES CAN BE CULTIVATED THERE.
THEN THE LAST ONE IS THE RECONNECTING COMMUNITY PILOT GRANTS.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
HI, NICOLE. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS AT THE AIRPORT.
SO IS THERE A LIMIT OF HOW LONG YOU CAN PARK THERE? I MEAN, IF I HAVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND I'M GOING TO SEATTLE FOR A WEEK, CAN I LEAVE MY CAR THERE FOR A WEEK? THAT WOULDN'T SEEM GOOD.
CORRECT. CORRECT. SO IT'S ONLY LIKE YOU CHARGE IT AND THEN MOVE IT.
YES. AND THIS IS GOING TO TAKE EDUCATION.
THERE IS SIGNAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'VE THOUGHT IT THROUGH.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS AT THIS POINT.
WE HAVE IN PERSON SASHA STORTS.
HELLO MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY.
I'M A RESIDENT OF THE CHESHIRE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MOM TO A SMALL KID.
BUT RIGHT NOW SHE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE A TEENAGER BEFORE.
I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE SPEED WITH WHICH FOLKS GO THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS WAS DONE AND IT SHOWED THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF SPEEDING THAT WAS HAPPENING.
AND AS WAS REFERENCED, THERE WAS A TRAFFIC COMMISSION MEETING WHERE STRIPING WAS DISCUSSED.
ALSO, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED INCLUDED BRINGING SOME DESIGN OPTIONS BACK TO THE COMMISSION, AS WELL AS ENGAGING RESIDENTS IN A BIT OF A MINI PLANNING PROCESS. AND I'M HERE TODAY, YOU KNOW WE JUST WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THAT VIDEO AND I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE ARE CONFUSED ABOUT HOW WE CAN ENGAGE IN THIS AND WE REALLY CARE ABOUT GETTING IT RIGHT.
THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS WE HAVE WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN OF THE DESIGN FOR THE RESTRIPING THAT'S IN THE THE REPORT THAT YOU ALL HAVE, EVERYTHING FROM THE PLACEMENT OF THE BIKE LINES, LANES BEING NEXT TO THE ROAD INSTEAD OF NEXT TO THE SIDEWALK, TO THE SIDE OF THE STREET THAT THE PARKING IS ON TO THE WIDTH OF THE LANES THEMSELVES.
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THIS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.MY OTHER REALLY BIG CONCERN IS THAT RESTRIPING FROM WHAT'S NOW A FOUR LANE ROAD, SOMETHING THAT IS BIGGER THAN MANY AREAS OF 180 DOWN TO THREE LANES, ONE IN EACH DIRECTION, PLUS A CENTER TURN LANE JUST ISN'T GOING TO SLOW FOLKS DOWN ENOUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS DRIVE THE WAY THEY FEEL.
AND SO WE REALLY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS AT THE PARK AND DOING A RESTRIPING PROJECT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FEEL THAT THAT WON'T CHANGE HOW PEOPLE BEHAVE IN THE CROSSWALK.
I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF NEAR-MISSES WHILE I WAS IN THAT CROSSWALK OF ALMOST BEING HIT WITH MY FAMILY, AND SO I JUST REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RESTRIPING PAIRED WITH CROSSWALK PROTECTIONS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A CENTER LANE INVOLVED IN THIS DESIGN.
WE NEED SOME KIND OF PROTECTION AROUND THE CROSSWALK SO THAT IF THERE IS A DRIVER THAT'S YIELDING TO PEDESTRIANS, SOMEBODY ELSE CAN'T PASS THEM AND PLOW RIGHT INTO PEDESTRIANS IN THAT CROSSWALK.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SASHA.
AND WE DO HAVE ONE ONLINE PARTICIPANT.
YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL I HAVE.
AUDREY MAY GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS ME OR COUNSEL.
HELLO THERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. PLEASE PROCEED.
GREAT. HELLO MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR TAKING MY PUBLIC COMMENT.
I ALSO WANT TO COMMENT ON THE SAME FREMONT RESTRIPING PROJECT THAT SASHA JUST MENTIONED.
I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF THE CHESHIRE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'M CONCERNED THAT THE CURRENT PLAN OF DIETING THE ROAD FROM A TWO DIRECTIONAL FOUR LANE ROAD TO A THREE OR TWO DIRECTIONS IN THAT ONE CENTER TERRAIN LANE IS SOMEWHAT INAPPROPRIATE WHEN ADDRESSING THE SPEEDING SOLUTION.
IF PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WE KNOW THEY ARE FROM THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE, THAT CENTER TURN LANE REALLY JUST ALLOWS PEOPLE TO MOVE OUT OF THE WAY OF SPEEDING VEHICLES AND LET THE DIRECTIONAL TRAFFIC CONTINUE MOVING UNIMPEDED.
AND SO I TAKE SOME ISSUE WITH THE PROPOSED SOLUTION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THE ISSUE OF THE THE CARS SPEEDING BY.
IN THE SCHEMATIC THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE REPORT.
IT ALSO REFERENCES A PARKING LANE, WHICH I THINK IS VERY NEEDED.
I LIVE IN THE TOWNHOMES JUST BEHIND FALAH.
SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT PARKING LANE EXISTS ON THE EAST SIDE OF FREMONT BOULEVARD, AT LEAST BETWEEN THE HIGH SCHOOL OR FALAH AND THE PARK WHERE PEOPLE ARE ALSO PARKING AND I ELIMINATING HOPEFULLY THAT CENTER TURN LANE AND JUST HAVING TWO DIRECTIONS OF TRAFFIC LANES. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE BIKE LANES WIDENED.
I THINK THAT'S A PLACE WHERE THIS COULD REALLY BE A WIN WIN WIN SITUATION FOR TEAM FLAGSTAFF, FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
IT SEEMED TO ME FROM BEING AT THE FEBRUARY 2ND TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT AND ENERGY AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD SUGGESTED IS MAYBE PAINTING THAT CROSSWALK, SPRUCING IT UP WITH VEGETATION, PLANTERS, THINGS TO MAKE IT MORE OBVIOUS.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT CROSSWALK ALSO GET THE KIND OF ATTENTION THAT THE CROSSWALK ON BUTLER BY THE HIGH COUNTRY CONFERENCE CENTER AND A [INAUDIBLE] WITH THE FLASHING LIGHTS, THE BIG PEDESTRIAN SIGNS AND OR SOME TEXTURIZATION AND PAINT LIKE WE'RE SEEING IN THE CENTER OF ASPEN STREET IN BETWEEN LEROUX AND SAN FRANCISCO.
YEAH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR 3 MINUTES.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS? NO. THAT ALL FOR TODAY.
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PED SAFETY NEED TO BE ASSESSED FOR THIS MATTER.I'M NOT CERTAIN, THOUGH, THAT THE NEEDS COME DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL RIGHT AWAY, BUT RATHER GET MORE INPUT FROM THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF ON WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE, AS WELL AS WITH THE INPUT OF THE COMMUNITY ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
AND I WOULD LIKE US TO TAKE A FURTHER ASSESSMENT, GET THE COMMUNITY INPUT BEFORE IT DOES, IF IT DOES COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR THAT.
SO MY INPUT IS I THINK THIS SHOULD GO BACK TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, GET A REASSESSMENT FROM CITY STAFF TO SEE WITH THE INPUT OF THE COMMUNITY, TO SEE WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR FITTING FOR THAT STRETCH OF ROAD FOR BIKE PED SAFETY.
COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
AND I THINK A SUGGESTION I WOULD MAKE AT THAT MEETING AND I'M THERE AS LIAISON, SO I'LL BE THERE, IS THAT THE CROSSWALKS THAT ARE THERE WOULD BE LIKE AN ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE SO THAT A PERSON, CHILDREN, ADULTS, WHATEVER, CAN WALK HALFWAY ACROSS AND THEN FEEL SAFE IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN WAIT TIL THE TRAFFIC STOPS COMING THE OTHER WAY.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ONLY HAVE TO MAKE IT HALFWAY ACROSS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE IT ALL THE WAY ACROSS, WHICH I THINK WILL MAKE THEM FEEL SAFER AND ACTUALLY WILL BE SAFER. BUT IN SUMMARY, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD AS THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THIS.
THANK YOU. Q COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, I'M SEEING NODDED HEADS OFF.
LET'S GET A REASSESSMENT FROM THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INPUT.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, THANK YOU COUNCIL, AND THANK YOU TO OUR PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES THE REPORT.
I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THOSE WHO HAVE HAD INPUT IN THIS REPORT.
IF I HOPE COUNCIL AGREES WITH ME AND WHEN I NOTE THAT THE QUALITY OF THE MONTHLY REPORTS HAS REALLY ASCENDED AND A SIMILAR COMMENT WITH OUR WORK ANNIVERSARIES THAT WHEN I'M GOING TO GIVE SPECIFIC CREDIT TO SHANNON ANDERSON IN THE FOLKS IN H.R.
THESE ANNIVERSARIES ARE WONDERFUL TO TO WITNESS HERE.
AND THE MONTHLY REPORTS THAT ARE NOW APPENDED TO THE MANAGERS REPORT SIMILAR COMMENTS.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WITH THAT, WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, OUR POST WILDFIRE FLOODING UPDATE.
[8. Post-wildfire Flooding Update For information only. ]
ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.WE'RE GOING TO HEAR SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT MUSEUM.
SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GET IT KICKED OFF.
SAM BECKETT, SECTION DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
I KNOW MANY OF YOU WERE OUT THERE AND SAW THOSE IMPACTS FIRSTHAND, BUT WE'LL DISCUSS THOSE TODAY.
SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
FEASIBILITY PHASE TWO, WHICH SPECIFICALLY FOR MUSEUM AND THEN AS WELL AS PROP FOUR FOR ONE PIPELINE.
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THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, ALL TIE BACK TO OUR BEAUTIFUL MOUNTAIN RANGES AND PEOPLE JUST BEING NEGLIGENT.AT THE END OF THE DAY, SO JUST ALWAYS A REMINDER TO BE SAFE AND BE CAUTIOUS OUT THERE.
AND AGAIN, TOWARDS THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN, YOU SEE THE 2022 PIPELINE FIRE.
FOR MUSEUM FLOOD AREA IN PARTICULAR.
WITH THAT SAID, WE DIDN'T SEE THE NUMBERS LIKE WE SAW PREVIOUSLY.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THESE CHARTS HERE AS FAR AS OUR MAXIMUM TOTALS AND OUR INTENSITY READINGS IN THOSE AREAS, THE NUMBERS WERE A LITTLE OFF COMPARED TO WHAT WE SAW LAST YEAR, AND WE DIDN'T SEE THOSE LONG INTENSE STORMS LIKE WE SAW.
AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A GOOD FOUNDATION MOVING FORWARD.
BUT AGAIN, WE JUST DIDN'T SEE THE IMPACTS LIKE WE SAW THOSE SAME RAINSTORMS OVER THAT EXACT REGION.
AND SO IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT HERE MITIGATION MEASURES WERE PUT IN PLACE.
THERE WAS A TON OF GOOD WORK PUT IN UP THERE THAT DID HELP MITIGATE A TON OF THE WATERSHED.
HOWEVER, THERE IS SEVERAL AREAS THAT AREN'T THERE YET.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE PROJECTS.
SO RAINFALL INTENSITIES FOR THE THIS IS FOR THE DATE RANGE HERE OF JUNE 29.
FOR PIPELINE EAST [INAUDIBLE] IS MUSEUM SOUTH AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE RAINFALL INTENSITIES.
WHILE IMPACTFUL, WE JUST DIDN'T SEE WHAT WE WE THOUGHT WE WOULD SEE.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE DEAL WITH MORE OFTEN THAN NOT.
WE SAW THAT FOR TWO YEARS PRECEDING THE FIRE IN THE MUSEUM AREA.
AS WE ROLL INTO WINTER, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE SHORT TERM MITIGATIONS CAN BE A BURDEN FOR MANY.
AND WE HAVE SEEN THIS TRIED AND TESTED IN THESE WATERSHEDS.
SO WE DO ASK THAT RESIDENTS LEAVE THEIR SHORT TERM MITIGATIONS IN PLACE, YET UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THE BIGGER MITIGATIONS LIKE CONCRETE BARRIER, REALLY DO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR RESIDENTS TO MOVE ON THEIR ON THEIR OWN.
SO THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS SPECIFICALLY IN THE MUSEUM AREA TO HELP REMOVE SOME OF THOSE CONCRETE BARRIERS SO THEY COULD HAVE BETTER ACCESS THROUGH THE WINTERTIME AND WITH THEM UNDERSTANDING THAT IT DOES LEAVE THEM AT A POTENTIAL RISK WITHOUT THOSE BEING IN PLACE, BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT AT SOME POINT YOU DO HAVE TO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD AND GET PEOPLE TO A BETTER STATE OF NORMALCY.
AND AGAIN AS WINTER PREPARATIONS COME AROUND OUR ASKED OUR IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO GET RID OF YOUR SANDBAGS AND AGAIN IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING BY ANY MEANS BUT FOR THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO PLEASE CONTACT US VIA OUR CALL CENTER LINE WHICH IS 928213 2020 102 AND WE WILL PROVIDE PALLETS.
IN DOING SO, IT HELPS US REUSE AND NOT WASTE AS MANY SANDBAGS.
SO IF THERE'S ANY THAT CAN BE REUSED, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO STOCKPILE THEM.
UNDERSTANDING MANY OF THE BAGS HAVE DEGRADED AND THEY WON'T SURVIVE THAT SECOND MOVE.
BUT WE ARE TRYING TO GIVE THAT OPTION OUT THERE FOR ANYBODY LOOKING FOR IT.
THIS ONE HERE IS THE WEST TRIBUTARY.
WE DID SEE SOME RAINS IN THE AREA AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE FLOWS THAT CAME THROUGH THERE.
IT DID EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.
IT SPREAD OUT THE WATER FLOW, IT REDUCED IMPACTS TO THE AREA.
SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE A PICTURE OF IT YET, BUT THE NEW NORTH FANS, WHICH WILL BE A HUGE PIECE OF THE MITIGATION AND A MAJORITY OF THE WATER, THAT PROJECT SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY NOVEMBER, AND THAT IS A COUNTY PROJECT.
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THEY'VE DONE A BUNCH OF PHENOMENAL WORK ON THAT.I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL ADMINISTRATOR IS ON BOARD WITH US VIRTUALLY TONIGHT.
IF SO, MAYBE SHE COULD SPEAK TO THIS.
AND UNDERSTANDING. THEY ALSO HAD A BOARD MEETING TONIGHT.
AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN HIT ON THIS AND GIVE US SOME BETTER PROGRESS UPDATES.
NOW, THAT POTENTIAL IS STILL THERE.
THIS WILL BE ANOTHER IMPORTANT PROJECT TO HELP REDUCE WATER FLOWS, REDUCE SEDIMENT, AND HOPEFULLY ALLOW THE STORMWATER SYSTEM THAT'S THERE TO BETTER ABSORB THE IMPACTS AS IT COMES IN.
UNDERSTANDING THAT THE AMOUNT OF WATER COMING OUT OF THE FOREST, ONCE WE SEE AN EVENT AT THE SAME MAGNITUDE LIKE WE SAW LAST YEAR, WILL MOST LIKELY WELL, WELL, ALMOST INDEFINITELY OVERRUN THE SYSTEM THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE.
BUT AGAIN, HOPEFULLY LESS SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS MOVING FORWARD IS THE GOAL.
THE PARKWAY BASINS HAVE ACTUALLY MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS.
OUR HOPE IS TO HAVE ALL OF THE UTILITIES RELOCATED.
AGAIN, THESE WILL BE VERY, VERY IMPACTFUL.
THEY WILL BE THE LAST DITCH EFFORT, IF YOU WILL, TO REDUCE SEDIMENT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE CITY STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT FIRST LINDA VISTA CROSSING.
SO THESE BASINS WILL BE JUST ABOVE THAT.
THIS ONE HERE IS THE FEASIBILITY PHASE TWO STUDY.
THERE IS STILL A TON OF POTENTIAL TO COME OUT OF THESE WATERSHEDS.
WE STILL HAVE CHANNELS IN PLACES, WE DIDN'T HAVE CHANNELS BEFORE.
SO AS WE WORK THROUGH PROJECTS LIKE THE PARKWAY BASINS, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER ITEMS LISTED ON HERE, LIKE THE GRAND VIEW IMPROVEMENTS, THE WEST CEDAR BASIN DEVELOPMENT, THE LINDA VISTA AND CEDAR AVENUE CROSSINGS, CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS AND THE ROYAL CIRCLE MODIFICATIONS.
NOW, ALL OF THE WORK WE DID, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WILL STILL WIND UP DOWN AT KILLAM, WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SAFELY GET THAT WATER, MOVE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY AND REDUCE THOSE IMPACTS TO THE RESIDENTS.
THAT'S WHAT FEASIBILITY STUDY PHASE TWO DOES.
AND THAT IS REALLY KEY FOR US MOVING FORWARD TO UNDERSTAND HOW DO WE GET ALL OF THAT WATER OUT OF THE COMMUNITY YET THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. IT'S A TOUGH ONE TO FIGURE OUT AND BUT WE'VE MADE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD PROGRESS HERE, AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE DOWN THAT AVENUE MOVING FORWARD.
PART OF THE STUDY HAS BEEN GOING BACK AND MODELING ALL OF THE CURRENT PROJECTS.
SO THEY'VE ADDED ALL OF THE PROJECTS SUCH AS EXTENSION BASINS, THE WEST TRIBUTARY.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT ADDING THE NEW NORTH FANS INTO THAT, AS WELL AS THE ALLUVIAL FANS ABOVE PARADISE TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE IMPACTS WILL BE AND WHERE DO WE NEED TO MITIGATE AND THEN PRIORITIZE THOSE PROJECTS BASED ON OBVIOUSLY LIFE SAFETY AND THE HIGHEST THREAT TO RESIDENTS WITHIN THE AREA. THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS WALK THROUGH IN THESE PROCESSES FROM ENGINEERING TO EVERY POSSIBLE ASPECT WE COULD LOOK AT FOR IMPACTS IN THE REGION.
AS WE GET CLOSER ON THESE PROJECTS, WE WILL BE WORKING TO MAKE SURE WE EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THESE ARE, HOW THEY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY, HOW THEY BENEFIT THE COMMUNITIES, AND WHAT OUR END GOAL IS WITH THE COMPLETION OF THESE PROJECTS.
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PART OF THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IS TIED TO PROP 441, THESE PROJECTS WILL FUND A SERIES OF PROJECTS TO INCREASE THE STORM WATER CAPACITY IN THE SPRUCE WASH, INCLUDING CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS FROM PARADISE TO KILL DETENTION BASINS.THE PROJECTS WE JUST DISCUSSED CONTINUE IMPROVEMENTS TOWARDS ROUTE 66.
THESE COSTS ARE NOT A SMALL COST AND FRANKLY, THIS NUMBER HERE IS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER.
BUT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS WHAT WE NEED TO GET TO THAT END GOAL.
AND SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO GET COMPLETED HERE SHORTLY.
WITH THAT SAID, ON HALLOWEEN, WE'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING A SPRUCE WASH PROJECT DELIVERY SUMMIT.
AND PART OF THAT IS GOING TO BE UNDERSTANDING IF WE FIND THE FUNDS AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET FUNDED FOR THESE PROJECTS, HOW DO WE DELIVER THEM ALL IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, AS YOU ALL PROBABLY HEAR, AND YOU SAW FROM OUR ENGINEERING TEAM HERE TODAY, THERE ARE MASSIVE PROJECTS HAPPENING AROUND THE CITY, ALL OF WHICH ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AND NEED TO BE DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION.
YET OUR RESOURCES IN THIS REGION ARE LIMITED.
SO HAVING THIS SUMMIT IS KEY TO BETTER PRIORITIZE AND STRATEGICALLY PLAN OUT OUR ATTACK ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS BEYOND JUST OUR FEASIBILITY STUDIES HERE AND SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON WITHIN THE PIPELINE WEST AREA.
THE GOAL HERE IS TO NOT REDUCE SERVICE FROM ONE PROJECT TO COMPLETE ANOTHER.
BUT HOW DO WE GET IT ALL DONE IN THAT SHORT TIME FRAME? SO REALLY EXCITED.
THAT WILL JUMP OVER TO PIPELINE.
PIPELINE IS UNFORTUNATELY WHERE WE SAW THE BULK OF OUR IMPACTS THIS YEAR.
SO, AGAIN, HERE ARE SOME OF THE STORM IMPACTS.
THE STORMS ARE SO UNPREDICTABLE ANYMORE.
SO HERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF THOSE STORMS THAT WE SAW IMPACTS FROM AND WHAT THOSE RAIN TOTALS WERE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHILE THIS ONE ISN'T HIGHLIGHTED, THIS IS AN IMPRESSIVE ONE TO NOTE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES WE SAW ON THE EAST SIDE.
THANKS. THAT WAS A NICE INTRODUCTION.
SO, STACEY BK, STACEY BRECHLER-KNAGGS, GRANTS CONTRACTS, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.
SO INNER BASIN PIPELINE, A LOT OF YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS PIPELINE.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK SUPER HISTORY.
OBVIOUSLY, THE PIPELINE WAS DAMAGED IN THE SCHULTZ FIRE IN 2010 AND 28 LOCATIONS.
IT TOOK TWO YEARS TO REPAIR THAT.
IT TOOK US FIVE YEARS TO CLOSE THAT DISASTER RECOVERY EVENT.
IT'S A VERY LONG TERM PROCESS WHEN WE GET INTO THESE RECOVERY EFFORTS.
WE CREATED AN HISTORICAL BOOKLET.
AARON YOUNG SPENT SOME TIME AND CREATED A REALLY NICE BOOKLET.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THAT, PLEASE EMAIL ME.
IT'S GOT A LOT OF HISTORY ABOUT FLAGSTAFF AND THEM TAKING THE PIPE AND THE MULES UP THE INNER BASIN AND DOING THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF CLAY PIPE TO CONCRETE TO DUCTILE IRON.
THAT PROJECT ACTUALLY WON A STATE AWARD AND A NATIONAL AWARD.
I ACTUALLY FLEW TO TORONTO WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND FOR A DAY FLEW TO CANADA.
IT WAS A QUICK TRIP, BUT WON A NATIONAL AWARD.
SO A LOT OF HISTORY UP THERE ON THE BASIN.
I ACTUALLY CO-MANAGED IT WITH OUR WATER SERVICES PROJECT MANAGER.
THE SPRING WATER CAN PEAK UP AS HIGH AS 2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
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THE DESIGN CAPACITY OF THE NORTH RESERVOIR FILTRATION PLAN IS THE INNER BASIN WATER IS TREATED IS 4 MILLION GALLONS A DAY AND OVERALL THE INNER BASIN WATER CAN ACCOUNT FOR AT LEAST 20% DAILY POTABLE WATER DEMAND DURING THE PEAK SUMMER MONTHS.AND WHY I AM SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE THE PIPELINE IS DAMAGED.
WE ARE NOT RECEIVING ANY WATER, SO WE'RE LOSING QUITE A BIT OF CAPACITY AND WATER THAT WE NEED, RIGHT NOW THE INNER BASIN WATER LINE DAMAGED IN NEW LOCATIONS ABOVE LOCKETT MEADOW AND SCHULTZ CREEK.
SO IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT MAP, THE 28 LOCATIONS, IT STARTED JUST AFTER WINDY POINT, I DON'T HAVE A POINTER, BUT I THINK HERE IS WHERE WE HAD THE 28 LOCATIONS AND THEN GO DOWN.
BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED IS WE HAVE SEEN NEW DAMAGE UP ABOVE HERE AND DURING THE PIPELINE WEST, THIS WAS ONE OF WHAT WE CALL OUR VALUES AT RISK WAS THE INNER BASIN.
WE SAW WE HAD PUT IN TIMBER WALLS TO SAY BECAUSE WE HAD SO MUCH DOWNED TREES BACK IN 2010 WHEN WE WERE UP THERE, WE ENDED UP USING SOME OF THE DOWNED LOGS TO CREATE TIMBER WALLS.
THEY ACTUALLY BURNED DURING THIS LAST PIPELINE, WEST FIRE.
WE HAD A LOT OF ROAD DAMAGE, A LOT OF THE GABIAN WALLS AND WHERE WE ENCAPSULATED THE PIPE AND PUT CONCRETE OVER IT ACTUALLY WAS OKAY AS SAVED.
WE HAD SOME DRONE FOOTAGE THAT WAS DONE BY DAVID AND JEREMY AND CAPITAL, AND WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT A LOT OF THAT DRONE FOOTAGE AND SEE WHERE SOME OF IT WAS SAVED, SOME OF THE ROADS WERE WASHED OUT AND THE TIMBER WALLS.
WE MET WITH OUR WE HAD JACOBS ENGINEERING COME UP AND THEY SPENT A DAY WITH US FOR FREE.
WE NEED TO GET UP THERE AND GET A LITTLE BETTER ESTIMATE.
AND WE'LL GO UP WITH THE FOREST SERVICE IN OUR WILD LAND FIRE TEAM AND OUR CAPITAL ENGINEERS AND GET UP THERE AND SEE IF WE CAN GET A LITTLE BETTER IDEA OF THE DAMAGE.
WE WENT AHEAD AND MET WITH DEMA AND THEY WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE FOOTAGE.
THEY AGREED THIS IS AN EMERGENCY.
WE WENT THROUGH THEIR EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT PROCESS INTERNALLY WITH CITY STAFF AND WITH THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR AND WERE APPROVED FOR EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT FOR THE PROJECT. SO WE CAN TECHNICALLY GO BACK TO THE SAME RECORD OF ENGINEER WITH JACOBS AND THE CONTRACTOR IF WE CHOOSE TO DO THAT. BUT WHAT IS A GOOD THING IS WE CAN MOVE PRETTY FAST, HOPEFULLY HERE AS SOON AS THE WEATHER KIND OF CHANGES. AND I DIDN'T EXPECT RAIN TODAY.
DID ANYBODY? [INAUDIBLE] AT CITY HALL? AND I LOOKED AT MY WINDOW, IT WAS HAILING.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE 20 ACRE SEDIMENT AND DETENTION BASINS.
THINGS ARE GOING GREAT UP THERE.
I'VE BEEN OUT THERE EVERY WEEK.
I KNOW ADAM'S ON THE LINE IF WE HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT PROJECT IS GOING REALLY WELL.
THEY'RE OUT THERE LOOKING AT THE PROJECTS AND VERY PLEASED WITH IT.
WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE DOWNSTREAM CHANNEL STABILIZATION FUNDED WITH NRCS.
SO WORKING ON THAT, THE BOX CULVERT, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCEPT PLANS THAT WILL BE PRESENTED BY CWI TODAY FOR IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN EIGHT RIGHT OF WAY AND OUTSIDE OF ADOT RIGHT AWAY WE'RE WORKING WITH ADOT HEAVILY ON THE PROTECT FORMULA FUNDS THAT ARE POTENTIAL THERE WITH ADOT.
I'VE HAD SOME NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS.
THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE PACKAGE.
THEY HAVE THE FORMULA FUNDS AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DISPERSE THAT.
SO EITHER BE THROUGH THAT PROTECT FORMULA FUND OR ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE.
AND THEN THIS IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SHOWS A PHOTO OF THE BASINS.
OF COURSE, YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THE 20 ACRE CITY OWNED PARCEL THAT WE TOOK.
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WE'RE INCORPORATING TRAIL ACCESS, TRAILHEAD, PARKING, HISTORIC INTERPRETATION AND LANDSCAPING.WE'RE LOOKING AND WORKING WITH A POTENTIAL BUDGET ADJUSTMENT OR SCOPE CHANGE WITH NRCS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A FENCE IN THERE, A ACCESS CONTROL FENCE, AND SOME GATES TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT APPROVED JUST TO KIND OF CORNER OFF THAT AREA AND SO THAT WE HAVE PROTECTION FOR ANY VEHICLES TRYING TO GET IN THERE. WE'RE ON TRACK TO COMPLETE APPROXIMATELY THE END OF THE MONTH ON THE 26TH AND CONTINUING STABILIZATION, THE CONCRETE HEAD WALLS AND THE OVERFLOW WHERE STRUCTURES.
IT'S LOOKING AMAZING OUT THERE.
IF YOU HAVE A GUN OUT THERE, PLEASE DO SO.
I KNOW ADAM'S OUT THERE EVERY DAY, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS A SITE VISIT, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU JOIN ME.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO SAM.
THANK YOU, STACY. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IS A MASSIVE PROJECT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THAT PICTURE RIGHT THERE.
THAT IS NOT A SMALL PIECE OF LAND.
THE FACT THAT WE HAD THIS OPTION AND THAT ALL OF THE STARS ALIGNED AND THAT EVERYBODY WAS ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND TO GET THIS PROJECT DELIVERED IN THE TIMEFRAME THEY DID. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL EVER SEE THAT AGAIN IN THAT TIME FRAME, BUT GOOD WORK.
NOW WATER IS STILL GOING TO COME OUT OF THOSE BASINS.
THAT'S A LOT OF WATER. 56 ACRE FEET OF WATER, I BELIEVE, OR 56.
YEAH, RIGHT. 56 ACRE FEET OF WATER.
SO I'M CONFIRMING WITH MY CREW HERE A LOT OF WATER STILL GOING TO MAKE ITS WAY DOWN TO HIGHWAY 180.
NOW, THAT'S WHERE IT GETS TRICKY.
WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS WE'VE GOT TO WORK THROUGH.
WE'VE GOT SOME PRIVATE PROPERTY.
WE'VE GOT TO WORK THROUGH A TON OF UTILITIES AND SOME FUNDING ISSUES.
SO THIS IS WHERE THESE PROJECT CONVERSATIONS HAVE LED US DOWN TO IS GETTING ALL THAT WATER THAT'S GOING TO BUILD UP THERE IN THOSE BASINS AND HOW DO WE SAFELY GET IT ACROSS 180 AND OUT OF THE COMMUNITY? SO A TON OF DESIGN IDEAS HAVE COME OUT OF THIS.
WE HAVE NARROWED IT DOWN TO TWO IDEAS.
I'LL LET STEPHEN IRWIN FROM SWI SPEAK TO THOSE HERE IN JUST A MINUTE AS HE HAS BEEN JUST KEY IN TRYING TO GET THESE DESIGNS COMPLETED AND FUNCTIONAL AND FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE WORK WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS TO GET IT COMPLETED.
BOTH CONCEPTS ALLOW FOR 950 CFS, WHICH WOULD FULLY CONTAIN THE FLOW FROM THE OUTPUT OF WHAT THE BASINS WILL DO FROM A 100 YEAR STORM EVENT.
WITH THAT. IT GETS A LITTLE TECHNICAL AND THAT'S WHERE YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR ME SPEAK.
SO I'M GOING TO LET STEPHEN TALK TO THAT AND TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AND THE TWO VIABLE OPTIONS.
THANK YOU, SAM. MAYOR COUNCIL.
AS SAM MENTIONED, WE'VE WORKED THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WITH CITY STAFF, ADOT, COUNTY STAFF.
AND THEN IT TURNS TO THE SOUTH AND THEN THIS IS UNDERSIZED BASED ON THE POST WILDFIRE FLOW RATES.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, INSTEAD OF TAKING THIS TO THE SOUTH AND THEN THROUGH THE EXISTING STORM DRAIN, WE LOOKED AT NARROWED IT DOWN TO THESE TWO OPTIONS. THIS FIRST OPTION YOU'LL SEE IS A DOUBLE BARREL.
IT'S TWO EIGHT FOOT BY FIVE FOOT BOX CULVERTS.
IT GOES ACROSS 180, CLIPS THE GRAND CANYON TRUST DRIVEWAY PARKING LOT, AND THEN IT GETS ON TO THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT, CITY OF FLAGSTAFF PROPERTY. FROM HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE BOX ENDS AND STORMWATER WILL DISCHARGE INTO AN OPEN CHANNEL.
IT GOES OPEN CHANNEL THROUGH THIS OUTWOOD FAMILY TRUST PARCEL.
SO WE NEED TO GET THAT WATER UNDER THEIR ACCESS BACK INTO THE RIO DE FLAG.
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HERE'S THE RIO DE FLAG RUNS MORE OR LESS NORTH SOUTH IN THIS AREA.BACK TO I'LL SHOW YOU THE FIRST OPTION ON THIS SLIDE.
THIS IS THE EXISTING INLET TO THE EXISTING BOX CULVERT THAT RUNS DIAGONAL ACROSS HIGHWAY 80.
WHAT WE LOOKED AT ON THIS ONE WAS MORE OF A STRAIGHT SHOT ROUTE TO THE RIO DE FLAG.
IT WILL REQUIRE SOME REGRADING ON THIS MUSEUM OF NORTHERN ARIZONA PARCEL.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A STRAIGHT SHOT FROM SCHULTZ CREEK ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE RIO DE FLAG.
FROM WHAT WE CAN TELL, WE HAVEN'T DONE AN IN-DEPTH UTILITY INVESTIGATION YET.
THERE SHOULD BE LESS UTILITY CONFLICTS.
AND THIS IS A MAIN HIGHWAY IN OUR AREA FOR LOCAL AND PEOPLE PASSING THROUGH TOWN.
SO IF WE CAN GET THIS STRAIGHT SHOT AS OPPOSED TO A DIAGONAL CROSSING IMPACTS AND CLOSURES TO HIGHWAY 180 ARE MINIMIZED FROM 180 AS OPPOSED TO THE OPTION ONE, THIS WILL STAY UNDERGROUND TO EIGHT BY FIVE BOX CULVERTS THROUGH THE CHURCH SCHOOL PARKING LOT, THROUGH THEIR FIELD HERE.
SO PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD AS OPPOSED TO CROSSING THIS DIRECTION, AND THEN THIS IS A COUNTY ISLAND.
SO YOU HAVE CITY, COUNTY, ADOT.
UM. WE DO QUESTIONS NOW OR AT THE END.
ONE MORE. OKAY, SO WE PUT TOGETHER THIS DECISION MATRIX.
SO HOW MANY PROPERTY OWNERS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM HAS MORE PROPERTY OWNERS THAN THE OTHER.
WE'VE GOT THIS COLOR CODED LEGEND DOWN HERE SIMILAR TO A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
NEXT, WE HAVE CONSTRUCT ABILITY.
OPTION ONE IS A DIAGONAL CROSSING MORE IMPACTS TO HIGHWAY 180.
TRAFFIC IMPACTS COULD POTENTIALLY BE A LONGER DURATION OF CONSTRUCTION.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT.
SO WHAT I'M GATHERING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION FROM MULTIPLE OWNERS, THE ONE PART ON THE RUBRIC THAT I'M WONDERING ABOUT IS TIME.
SO WOULD THE OPTION TWO BE FEASIBLY MORE LIKELY TO OCCUR MORE QUICKLY THAN OPTION ONE? SURE. SO AT THIS POINT, WORKING WITH THE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS, MOST LIKELY OPTION ONE, WHICH WOULD WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE, IT WOULD FOLLOW THE CURRENT PATH.
IT'S GOING TO BE A TOUGH HURDLE.
AND BECAUSE THAT PROPERTY OWNER ISN'T WITHIN CITY LIMITS, IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE CHALLENGING.
WE KIND OF HAVE TO WORK THIRD PARTY TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE MAKE ALL OF THAT ALIGN.
SO THAT ONE THERE IS IS WHILE PROBABLY THE.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE THE MOST EFFICIENT OPTION MOVING FORWARD.
SO AS THEY WENT THROUGH, THEY STARTED WITH TEN DIFFERENT DESIGNS.
WHAT ARE ALL OF THE POTENTIAL CONCEPTS THAT COULD COME TOGETHER? THESE CAME DOWN TO THE TWO MOST VIABLE OPTIONS AND AGAIN, THEY EACH COME WITH THEIR OWN COMPLEXITY.
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BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH HERE.EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. AND I'LL JUST NOTE THAT WITH OPTION TWO, IT MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER PRICE TAG, BUT DOING IT SOONER HELPS NOT JUST TO PROTECT RESIDENTS SOONER, BUT WITH THE INFLATIONARY COSTS FOR CONSTRUCTION WOULD POTENTIALLY EVEN BE CHEAPER IF IT GOES A FULL YEAR.
ADDITIONALLY, A FULL CONSTRUCTION SEASON TO GET COMPLETED.
SO AS WE LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI. THANK YOU, MAYOR, STEPHEN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
YOU WORK ON THIS WITH THE TEAM.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE OPTION ONE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE IDEAL OPTION IF IT WASN'T FOR THE COMPLEXITIES.
IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH THIS WAS, AS SAM SAID, WE HAD MULTIPLE DIFFERENT ITERATIONS AND THEN WITH EACH CONCEPT, THOSE ALSO HAD ITERATIONS. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WE LOOKED AT YOU CAN SEE THIS CHANNEL HERE.
WE TRIED TO KEEP IT ON ONE PROPERTY.
WE LOOKED AT WHAT IS THERE A WAY TO LESSEN THE BURDEN AND STRADDLE THE PROPERTY LINE? SO WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF THOSE.
AT FIRST THIS WAS THE PREFERRED OPTION UNTIL WE STARTED LOOKING MORE OF THE DETAILS OF NOT JUST THE BOTTOM LINE, WHAT IS THE COST, COUNTY VERSUS CITY LIMITS CLOSURES TO 180.
THAT'S HUGE, REDUCING THOSE CLOSURES.
SO YEAH, I WOULD SAY OPTION ONE WAS PREFERRED AT ONE POINT.
AND CAN YOU JUST ORIENT ME WITH OPTION TWO? IS THAT NOT 180 AS WELL? YES. YES, IT IS.
OPTION ONE COMES OFF THROUGH THIS SIDE HERE.
AND THEN OPTION TWO, WE WOULD DO SOME CHANNEL GRADING.
TO KIND OF REROUTE THAT CHANNEL AND GET A MORE STRAIGHT SHOT THROUGH THE LUTHERAN CHURCH PARCEL.
BUT IF YOU ALL DECIDE OPTION TWO'S THE BEST APPROACH, I FULLY SUPPORT WHICHEVER ONE WE CHOOSE.
THANK YOU. ONE OTHER THING THAT WAS JUST POINTED OUT WITH.
OPTION TWO, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO.
SLOW DOWN, AS WE'RE ALL SEEING FROM THE FLOODING IN THIS AREA.
GETTING WATER TO TURN 90 DEGREES IS AN IDEAL.
WE'LL SEE. AND FINAL DESIGN, BUT THAT'S TO ARMOR THAT SLOPE FROM GETTING HIT WITH THOSE FLOODWATERS.
AND THAT LEADS ME TO MY LAST QUESTION THAT I FORGOT A SECOND AGO.
BUT WHAT IS THE IMPACT TO THE REAL THE FLAG AND DOWNSTREAM? CAN YOU JUST WALK US THROUGH WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, CHANNELING THIS MUCH WATER DOWN IT? SURE. SO THAT KIND OF GOES BACK TO.
BUT YOU HAVE DIFFERENT TRIBUTARIES, SO THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THIS TRIBUTARY.
CONTRIBUTING TO SCHULTZ CREEK.
FLOODING, FLASH FLOODING AT THE SAME TIME AS THE MAIN RIO DE FLAG CHANNEL.
IT'S POSSIBLE, I HAVE TO SAY THAT EMPHASIZE THAT IT IS POSSIBLE.
BUT IN THE MODELS THAT JAY FULLER IS WORKING ON, I DON'T KNOW IF JOE'S ON, BUT WHEN IT'S JUST SCHULTZ CREEK FLOODING, THIS IS ABLE TO STAY WITHIN THE CHANNEL, THE FLAG CHANNEL.
THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS BIT BEFORE WE CONTINUE? COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR FOR THE VERY INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION.
IT SAYS OPTION PROVIDES NO ADVERSE IMPACT TO DOWNSTREAM PROPERTIES.
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AND THAT'S KIND OF SPELLED OUT IN THE MATRIX WITH THE COLOR CODED.AND IT DID NOT SAY SO ON OPTION ONE.
SO DOES IT MEAN THAT OPTION ONE WILL LIKELY AVE ADVERSE IMPACT TO DOWNSTREAM PROPERTIES? SO WHAT THAT MEANS WITH ADVERSE IMPACTS IN ANY STORM WATER DRAINAGE DESIGN.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE MUSEUM WITH THAT MODELING OF WE'RE MODELING ALL OF THESE PROJECTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE PUTTING ALL OUR WATER UNDER THE KILL UP DETENTION BASIN.
IF THAT OVERFLOWS, WHERE DOES IT GO AND DOES IT SEND MORE WATER SOMEWHERE WHERE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO GO? SO WITH THIS OPTION TOO, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WHEN THIS CULVERT GETS OVERWHELMED? THERE'S TWO THINGS HAPPENING.
IT OVER TOPS ON A HIGHWAY 180.
AND UNTIL IT REACHES A LARGE ENOUGH STORM EVENT, MOST OF IT WILL STAY ON THIS EAST SIDE OF HIGHWAY 180 AND CONTINUE SOUTH, AND THEN IT'LL START OVERTOPPING 180.
SO THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF OUR PROBLEMS WE'VE BEEN SEEING.
SO WITH THIS OPTION TOO, I WOULD SAY BOTH OPTIONS.
ON THE ADVERSE IMPACT, IT'S STILL WILL OVERTOP ONTO 180 AND ON CERTAIN STORM EVENTS WILL FLOW OVER 180.
WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OPTION TWO IS WE CAN CHOKE DOWN.
AND WHEN I SAY CHOKE DOWN, WE ANALYZE WHAT THAT DOWNSTREAM INFRASTRUCTURE CAN CONVEY AND WE CHOKE DOWN THIS EXISTING BOX CULVERT TO WHERE NO MORE THAN WHAT THAT DOWNSTREAM INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS BY NO ADVERSE IMPACT.
FOLLOW UP. IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU MENTIONED OPTION TWO, OF COURSE IT HAS LESS IMPACT ON UTILITY AND IMPACT TO TRAFFIC AND HIGHWAY 180 CLOSURE OF DURING CONSTRUCTION. AND IT'S, AS YOU MENTIONED, COMPLETELY UNDERGROUND ON 180, THAT'S OPTION TWO IS OPTION ONE ABOVE GROUND? SO OPTION ONE IS UNDERGROUND UNDER 180, AND THEN IT GOES TRANSITIONS TO AN OPEN CHANNEL.
SO IT'LL BE ON THE SAME BOX SIZED BOX CULVERT TO EIGHT BY FIVES UNDER 180, EXCEPT OPTION ONE TRANSITIONS TO AN OPEN CHANNEL.
WHEREAS OPTION TWO, YOU COULD SEE IT STAYS IN A BOX CULVERT THE WHOLE WAY.
SO I UNDERSTAND OPTION TWO WILL LIKELY BE MORE EXPENSIVE BUT LESS IMPACTFUL TO PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND IT'S ALL WITHIN CITY LIMITS.
OPTION ONE WOULD PROBABLY BE CHEAPER BUT HAS MORE IMPACT WITH MULTIPLE PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND OF COURSE, IT'S THE DIAGONAL DESIGN.
SO IN IN YOUR INTERACTION IN MEETINGS WITH ADOT ENGINEERS DO, DID THEY SPECIFY A SPECIFIC PREFERENCE WHICH OPTION? THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF BOTH OPTIONS.
THEY DO LIKE OPTION TWO FROM IMPACT PERSPECTIVE.
IF YOU GO WALK AROUND, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A OVERHEAD ELECTRIC POLE HERE WHERE IT GOES UNDERGROUND.
AND WE'RE ASSUMING THIS IS WHAT FEEDS MULTIPLE PROPERTIES.
SO WE'RE NOT 100% SURE WHAT'S IN THAT AREA.
SO IF WE CAN STAY OUT OF THAT AREA, THAT'D BE BENEFICIAL.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE WON'T ENCOUNTER ANYTHING ON OPTION TWO.
HAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT FUNDING WITH ADOT? SO WE HAVE DONE PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATES FOR THESE TWO OPTIONS AND WE'VE SPLIT IT INTO COSTS WITHIN THE ADOT RIGHT AWAY VERSUS OUTSIDE RIGHT AWAY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE PURSUING FUNDING.
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SAM MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT.SO ADOT'S LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS AT THIS POINT.
THEY LOOKED AT SOME AT THEIR EMERGENCY FUNDING, HOWEVER, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DAMAGE TO HIGHWAY 180, IT WASN'T ELIGIBLE FOR THEIR EMERGENCY FUNDING LIKE WE SAW OUT ON HIGHWAY 89. HOWEVER, THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT ALL THE VIABLE OPTIONS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO HELP SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
BUT AGAIN, THEY'VE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS SO FAR.
THIS IS ONE OF THEIR MAIN ARTERIALS HEADING NORTH OUT OF TOWN, GETTING UP TOWARDS THE GRAND CANYON.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THAT WATER CONVEYED UNDER THE ROADWAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. MAY I JUST OFFER A COMMENT, MR. MAYOR? I'M HERE TO BE THE KIND OF AND I BROUGHT THIS UP ALREADY TO THE STATE TRANSPORTATION BOARD AND ADOT DIRECTOR HALEY KOSKI.
SO I'LL BE MAKING NOISE IN A NICE WAY TO OUR PARTNERS WITH ADOT ABOUT PRIORITIZING FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT.
I THINK WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE PRESENTATION.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, STEPHEN.
APPRECIATE IT. AND AGAIN, AS WE WORKED WITH THE MUSEUM SIDE OF THE HOUSE, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PIPELINE SIDE OF THE HOUSE WITH RESIDENTS TO HELP THEM GAIN ACCESS BACK INTO THEIR PROPERTIES THROUGH THE WINTERTIME WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S ALWAYS A RISK POTENTIAL.
SO EVERYBODY SAYS, WELL, IT'S WINTERTIME.
WE DON'T GET FLOODING IN THE WINTER TIME.
NOT NECESSARILY. I THINK MOST OF YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THOSE IMPACTS.
SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH RESIDENTS ACTUALLY TODAY, THEY WENT OUT AND REMOVED 40 PALLETS OF.
RESIDENT FILLED PALLETS OF SANDBAGS TODAY OFF OF STEVANNA WAY TO HELP THOSE RESIDENTS OUT.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO REUSE SOME OF THOSE SANDBAGS AND HELP WITH NEXT YEAR'S.
SAME THING WITH CONCRETE BARRIER REMOVAL.
AND THEN ALL OF THIS REALLY LINES UP FOR WINTER PREPARATIONS AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND HOW IS SNOW GOING TO IMPACT SOME OF THESE AREAS? BUT THIS ONE HERE, ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT UPDATES, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO BRANDY, WHO HAS BEEN OUR FINANCE SECTION CHIEF ON OUR IMT THIS YEAR AND JUST BEEN PHENOMENAL.
SO I WANT TO THANK HER FOR ALL OF HER WORK AND LET HER UPDATE.
SO THIS NEXT SLIDE JUST PROVIDES A BRIEF COST UPDATE RELATED TO PIPELINE WEST.
SO SINCE OUR LAST PRESENTATION, THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGE TO THE PRESEASON MITIGATION COST RELATED TO BOTH MUSEUM AND PIPELINE AT $471,000. THE COST ESTIMATE RELATED TO FLOOD RESPONSE HAS BEEN UPDATED TO 351,000, BASED ON OUR LATEST PROJECTIONS NOW THAT THE MONSOON SEASON IS COMING TO AN END.
ALSO, THERE IS NO UPDATE OR CHANGE RELATED TO THE ESTIMATE FOR PRIVATE DAMAGE AT 95,500.
THE WATER CONTROL FACILITY COST ESTIMATE HAS BEEN UPDATED TO $15.2 MILLION, WHICH INCLUDES THE INNER BASIN WATERLINE, THE RIO CHANNEL.
HIGHWAY 180 CULVERT, AS WELL AS FRANCES SHORT POND.
WORKING WITH ADOT IS WORKING ON IDENTIFYING FUNDING OR FINDING FUNDING FOR THE HIGHWAY 180 CULVERT.
AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE NO CHANGE ON THE GRANT MATCH OR DESIGN COSTS RELATED TO THE SHULTZ CREEK BASIN PROJECT AND THE RELATED NATURAL RESOURCE CONSERVATION SERVICE EMERGENCY WATERSHED PROTECTION GRANT.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO SARAH.
THANKS, BRANDI, AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
SARAH LANGLEY, PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIRECTOR.
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SO THE SBA LOANS, HOPEFULLY EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THESE BY NOW.BUT FOR THOSE IN THE PIPELINE WEST AREA SPECIFICALLY, THERE ARE LOW INTEREST LOANS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AVAILABLE, NOT ONLY TO BUSINESSES, AS YOU MIGHT THINK IT BEING AN SBA PROGRAM, BUT IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE TO HOMEOWNERS AND TO RENTERS.
AND SO THERE IS LOAN MONEY AVAILABLE FOR IF YOUR HOME WAS DAMAGED OR IF YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY WAS DAMAGED INSIDE OR OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOME BECAUSE OF FLOODING DURING JULY 23RD THROUGH AUGUST 28TH OF THIS YEAR.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE SBA'S PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER, LOUISE PORTER, WHO WAS ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY STATIONED IN FLAGSTAFF UP UNTIL THE END OF LAST WEEK TO MEET WITH RESIDENTS AND HELP GET THE WORD OUT JOINTLY WITH THE SBA AND WITH THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL AS NEWS RELEASES AND E NEWSLETTERS.
WE ALSO SEND A PHYSICAL FLIER TO EVERYONE IN THE PIPELINE WEST AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE ON THE SCREEN IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH.
SO MAIN MESSAGE IS NOVEMBER 18TH IS THE DEADLINE FOR RESIDENTS TO APPLY FOR A PHYSICAL DAMAGE LOAN.
AND THAT WEBSITE LINK IS ON THE SLIDE.
AND THEN FOR OUR COMMUNICATIONS EFFORTS, OF COURSE, THEY CONTINUE OUTSIDE OF MONSOON SEASON.
WE CONTINUE TO SEND OUT OUR NEWSLETTERS AND RESPOND TO INQUIRIES FROM RESIDENTS WEEKLY.
JUST AS A REMINDER FOR ANYONE IN THE MUSEUM FLOOD AREA WHO MAY BE LISTENING.
I THINK THAT'S TWO MONDAYS FROM NOW, 6 P.M.
THAT MEETING WILL FOCUS ON THE DIFFERENT LONG TERM MITIGATION PLANS THAT WE HAVE.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, JUST ANOTHER REMINDER FOR RESIDENTS IN THE PIPELINE WEST AREA.
THEY CAN GO TO FLAGSTAFF DOT GOV SLASH PIPELINE WEST FOR MORE INFORMATION.
MAYOR, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC PARTICIPANT, SO I WOULD LIKE TO CALL STEVE PERK AND THEN WE CAN HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL.
ME AND THREE OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BUILT SIX WALLS AT OUR EXPENSE.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO GET REIMBURSED.
WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT OURSELVES.
WE'D APPRECIATE IT IF WE GET MORE THAN ONE TO VISIT TO PICK UP PALLETS A WEEK.
AS THE STREET GUY SAID AND DID DO.
NOW WE HAVE OVER 20 PALLETS ON THE STREET AND SIX NEIGHBORS LOOKING TO GET RID OF SOME SANDBAGS.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE RUNNING SHORT ON TIME BEFORE NOVEMBER 1ST.
THANK YOU. NOW, MY WIFE AND I AND ANOTHER NEIGHBOR VOLUNTEERED TO LET WATER GO THROUGH OUR PROPERTY THIS SUMMER.
IT'S NOT GOING TO DO IT AGAIN.
AS I MENTIONED, WE BUILT A WALL AND MY NEIGHBOR BUILT A WALL.
BUT WE'RE COMING HERE AND I'VE COME NUMEROUS TIMES.
I SENT AN EMAIL OUT TO THE COUNCIL, GOT NO RESPONSE SEPTEMBER 8TH.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE BEHIND US AND THE PEOPLE DOWN IN COCONINO.
THE SENIOR COUNTY ENGINEER CORRECTED ME.
IT'S 30 YEARS YOU'VE BEEN IN VIOLATION WITH THE COUNTY AT THAT BUBBLER.
AND NOW IT CAME TO REST THAT IT CAUSES A GOOD DEAL OF FLOODING.
WE DID THE ONE EYED HERE LOOKING FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
WE'RE LOOKING HERE FOR YOU TO SOLVE AND FIX YOUR VIOLATION.
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I CONTACTED THE CITY VIA CODE VIOLATION ON SEPTEMBER 22ND THAT'S BEEN BURIED.I'M HEARING CRICKETS, MUCH LIKE THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE COUNCIL.
THIS IS YOUR VIOLATION, YOU KNOW, KNOWN ABOUT IT FOR OVER 16 YEARS.
I HOPE SOME LEADERSHIP WILL SHOW UP.
IF NOT, I HOPE THERE'S SOME CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP AND THIS COMING ELECTION.
YOU KNOW, I WASN'T HERE 16 YEARS AGO.
AND SOMETIMES IT DOES TAKE CATASTROPHIC EVENTS FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THAT PROBLEMS EXIST.
IN THIS CASE, SOMEBODY BURNING TOILET PAPER THAT LED TO A CATASTROPHIC FIRE THAT LED TO WATER GOING THROUGH THAT BUBBLER THAT NOBODY COULD HAVE, NOBODY WAS EXPECTING BEFORE.
BUT I'M HOPING THAT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION TODAY, YOU SEE HOW MUCH DESIGN, HOW MUCH COORDINATION IS HAPPENING TO TRY TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM, TO TRY TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE ARE FIGURING OUT EVERY WAY POSSIBLE TO COME UP WITH OVER $5 MILLION NEEDED TO PROTECT THIS AREA AND ENSURE THAT WATER ISN'T COMING OUT OF THE BUBBLER LIKE IT WAS BEFORE.
AND THIS DOES TAKE A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF WORK IS BEING DONE AND A LOT OF LEADERSHIP, WHETHER IT BE THE ENGINEERS OR THOSE OF US WHO ARE PUSHING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT TO SEE THIS THROUGH.
A FIRE THAT BURNED OVER 22,000 ACRES.
I UNDERSTAND NOBODY EXPECTED THAT.
MY WIFE BOUGHT A HOUSE IN A FLOOD ZONE.
AND NOBODY EXPECTED THIS SEQUENCE OF EVENTS.
HIS ENGINEERS, YOUR CITY ENGINEERS ED SCHENCK.
HE'S NOT HAVE THIS PROJECT TO FIX.
IT'S NOT ANYWHERE IN YOUR PROJECTS TO FIX THE BUBBLER OKAY.
YOU'VE GOT ACCESS TO A DRAINAGE DIRECTLY TO THE RIO BEHIND THREE OF MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.
YOU HAVE TONS OF MONEY THAT YOU COULD SPEND.
IT WILL TAKE LESS THAN A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST.
BUT I KNOW. I KNOW HOW TO READ YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
YOU'VE GOT THE MONEY TO FUND THIS, AND YOU.
IT'S NOT IN ANY OF YOUR PROJECTS.
YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED MY NEIGHBORS.
YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED THE POOR PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENTS WHO DON'T HAVE A VOICE.
BUT THAT IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF PROPERTY ACQUISITION.
IT DOESN'T TOUCH THE BUBBLER, DOES IT, STEVE? THAT IS OPTION ONE DOES NOT TOUCH THE BUBBLER DOES IT? EASEMENT THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO RIGHT NOW? THAT IS PART OF THE EASEMENT.
BUT THAT EASEMENT IS NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO CHANNEL THAT MUCH.
I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT ABOUT SOLVING THE FLOODING PROBLEM.
AND HE HAS TO GO THROUGH AND I'M GREAT.
BUT I ALSO KNOW AND YOU KNOW, THAT STORMWATER WAS PUT UP ON THE STORMWATER PEOPLE TO DO THAT IN 25.
THIS IS A THIS IS SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE REGARDLESS.
THIS ISN'T SOLVING THE PROBLEM.
THE BASIN IS LONG TERM PROJECT AND JUST FIX THE BUBBLER.
YOU CAN'T GO FROM LARGE TO SMALL ANYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY FOR OVER 100 YEARS.
THANK YOU STEPHEN. COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO SPEAK TO US.
I JUST WANTED TO MENTION I DID READ YOUR EMAILS AND I DIDN'T I DID NOT RESPOND BECAUSE I BELIEVE BECAUSE OF LEGAL CONCERNS, I THINK WE'VE BEEN YOU KNOW, IT'S A SENSITIVE LINE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT I'M HAPPY TO SET UP A MEETING WITH YOU.
AND IF YOU STICK AROUND, WE CAN TALK.
AND SO I'LL GIVE YOU MY CONTACT INFORMATION AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH THIS.
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AT A RECENT BUDGET RETREAT, I DID ASK STAFF, I BELIEVE IT WAS GARY MILLER WITH OUR TEAM IF THIS WAS BEING ADDRESSED.BUT IS THERE ANYONE FROM STAFF THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO WHAT HE WAS REFERENCING OR WAS IT BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS THIS THE OPTIONS, THE TWO OPTIONS? SO, STEVEN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND I LOVE TO CHAT WITH YOU MORE IN SOME ONE ON ONES AND AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO TO FIND THE RIGHT APPROACH.
ALL RIGHT. IS THAT THE ONLY PUBLIC PARTICIPANT ON ONLINE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? I'M NOT SEEING ANY AT THIS TIME.
SO AT THIS POINT, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR A BREAK.
COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY AGREES.
BUT THEN, ALL RIGHT, WE ARE BACK AT IT FOR OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL LEGISLATION.
[9. Short Term Rental Legislation Update Staff is seeking direction from Council on the future regulation of short-term rentals]
UPDATE OUR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.MS. LANGLEY. THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
SO BACK AGAIN WITH A DIFFERENT TOPIC TODAY.
THEN WE WILL DISCUSS A NEW PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT PASSED AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE THIS SPRING, SENATE BILL 1168, WHICH GIVES CITIES SOME ADDITIONAL TOOLS TO REGULATE STRS.
SO 30 DAYS IS REALLY KIND OF THE DETERMINING CUT OFF FOR SHORT TERM, SHORT VERSUS LONG TERM RENTALS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON HERE, THEY CAN BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND THEN KIND OF LOOKING AT THE LEGISLATIVE SITUATION.
SO THE ARIZONA LEGISLATURE HAS GIVEN THIS TOPIC QUITE A BIT OF ATTENTION IN RECENT YEARS.
THE LANDSCAPE REALLY SHIFTED BACK IN 2016 WHEN SENATE BILL 1350 WAS PASSED.
THAT BILL BASICALLY BARRED CITIES AND OTHER POLITICAL JURISDICTIONS FROM PROHIBITING OR RESTRICTING SHORT TERM RENTALS BASED ON THEIR CLASSIFICATION OR HOW THEY WERE USED OR OCCUPIED.
BUT CITIES DID RETAIN THE ABILITY TO VERY NARROWLY REGULATE HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES.
AND THEN THREE YEARS LATER, IN 2019, ANOTHER SHORT TERM RENTALS BILL.
HOUSE BILL 2672 WAS PASSED, AND THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM CITIES AND A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS WHO WERE BEING IMPACTED BY SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO 2672 INTRODUCED A NEW PROVISION TO ALLOW MUNICIPALITIES TO REQUIRE THE OWNER OF SHORT TERM RENTALS TO PROVIDE A CONTACT CONTACT INFORMATION.
THAT WAY, THERE COULD BE SOMEONE TO RESPOND IN THE CASE OF COMPLAINTS.
AND IT ALSO OUTLINED SOME PENALTIES FOR VERIFIED VIOLATIONS.
BUT CITIES WERE STILL VERY LIMITED IN HOW THEY COULD REGULATE SHORT TERM RENTALS.
SO COMING TO THE CURRENT DAY EARLIER THIS YEAR, SENATE BILL 1168 PASSED AS A COMPROMISE BETWEEN MUNICIPALITIES AND THE SHORT TERM RENTALS INDUSTRY. AND IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES, ANYA IS GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THIS BILL ENTAILS.
BUT JUST SOME KEY FEATURES ARE THAT IT ALLOWS GOVERNMENTS TO ESTABLISH A REGULATORY LICENSE OR A PERMIT IN ORDER TO OPERATE A SHORT TERM RENTAL WITHIN CITY LIMITS. AND IT IMPORTANTLY OUTLINES THE ALLOWABLE CRITERIA FOR WHEN A GOVERNMENT CAN DENY OR REVOKE THAT PERMIT.
THERE'S A VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA FOR WHEN YOU CAN DO THAT IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO HAVE A LICENSE.
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RENTALS IN A COMMUNITY OR IN A SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD.SO WITH THAT, I WILL PASS IT OVER TO JESSICA HULEATT TO TALK ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS IN FLAGSTAFF.
THANK YOU. HEY, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
JESSICA HULEATT, I'M YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE MANAGER, AND OUR TEAM HANDLES THE REGISTRATION OF EMERGENCY CONTACT INFORMATION FOR IDENTIFIED SHORT TERM RENTALS. SO THE SLIDE ON SCREEN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE IDENTIFIED ADVERTISEMENTS FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS IN FLAGSTAFF.
OF THIS, 636 ARE REGISTERED WITH US AND THIS REPRESENTS ABOUT 2.8% OF ALL RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
IN COMPARISON, WE'VE LEARNED THAT VALLEY CITIES AVERAGE ABOUT 1 TO 2% OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH IN SEDONA IS CLOSER TO 10%.
SO WE LAUNCHED OUR REGISTRATION PROCESS COINCIDING WITH THE CITY ORDINANCE IN JANUARY OF 2021.
SO IT'S BEEN GOING ON ABOUT TWO YEARS.
IT DOES COST US ABOUT 25,000 ANNUALLY FOR THE SOFTWARE.
AND WE DO THIS ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
I'LL NOW PASS IT ON TO ANYA, WHO'S GOING TO DISCUSS THE CURRENT REGULATIONS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
FIRST, I'LL INTRODUCE YOU TO THE CITY'S CURRENT REGULATIONS.
THEY BECAME EFFECTIVE IN JANUARY OF 2021.
THEY'RE LOCATED IN OUR CITY CODE CHAPTER 312.
THEY PARALLEL THE STATE LAW AS IT WAS BEFORE IT WAS AMENDED THIS YEAR.
IT REQUIRES THE ANNUAL REGISTRATION, WHICH IS FREE.
AND AGAIN, THE OWNER OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL HAS TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY CONTACT INFORMATION.
UNLAWFUL USES OF SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE PROHIBITED, AND I'LL SET THAT OUT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
THE OWNER HAS TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF OUR CITY CODES BUILDING CODE, LITTER, NOISE, TRASH ORDINANCES.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A PROVISION IN OUR CODE THAT REQUIRES THAT ANY ADVERTISEMENT FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL INCLUDE THE TRANSACTION PRIVILEGE TAXES, LICENSE NUMBER FOR THAT RENTAL SO WE CAN COLLECT LOCAL TAXES FROM THE GROSS REVENUE.
FINALLY, WE HAVE SOME CIVIL PENALTIES AND THE CITY'S CIVIL PENALTY IS SET AT 500.
SO HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN'T DO IN A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
ANY NON RESIDENTIAL USE, YOU CAN'T HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT THAT WOULD OTHERWISE REQUIRE A PERMIT.
YOU CAN'T HAVE RETAIL RESTAURANTS, BANQUET SPACE OR OTHER SIMILAR USE, WHICH IS NOT REALLY DEFINED.
OTHER USES THAT ARE PROHIBITED ARE HOUSING SEX OFFENDERS OPERATING OR MAINTAINING A SOBER LIVING HOME SELLING ILLEGAL DRUGS, LIQUOR CONTROL OR PORNOGRAPHY, OBSCENITY NUDE OR TOPLESS DANCING? AND SO NOW WE HAVE REGGIE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT CODE COMPLIANCE.
OH, WELL. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
MINE IS GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF.
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THE WAY WE RECEIVE COMPLAINTS AND CODE COMPLIANCE IS THERE IS THE ONLINE INCIDENT REPORTING FORM SO CITIZENS CAN GO TO THE LODGING REP'S FORUM AND DO AN ONLINE COMPLAINT.THE HOTLINE WILL THEN ALERT US.
YOU GIVE OR TAKE A FEW COMPLAINTS.
BUT I ALSO RECEIVE PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS TO THE TUNE OF 20 TO 25 DURING THAT FISCAL YEAR.
SO STAYS RIGHT AROUND THE SAME.
THE MAJORITY OF THE COMPLAINTS ARE LISTED THERE NOISE COMPLAINTS, LITTER COMPLAINTS, OCCUPANCY COMPLAINTS, PARTY COMPLAINTS, PARKING ISSUES.
UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF THE PARKING ISSUES END UP GOING TO PD BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PARKED ALL OVER THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE PARKED ON THE STREET AND SO THEY'RE TAKING UP SPACE IN THE STREET AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS LEGAL TO PARK ON THE STREET.
SO THOSE ARE THE MAJORITY OF THE COMPLAINTS WE GET.
WE DO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS, WHEN WE DO RECEIVE A COMPLAINT.
THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET THERE AFTER WE RECEIVE THE COMPLAINT, GET TO THE PROPERTY WHILE THE RESIDENTS ARE STILL THERE, THEN WE CAN ADDRESS THE PROBLEM RIGHT AWAY. IF NOT, WE HAVE TO TRY TO TRACK DOWN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND NOTIFY THEM.
AND BY THEN USUALLY THE PROBLEM'S BEEN RECTIFIED ANYWAY.
SO IT'S KIND OF A FINE LINE ON WHETHER WE ACTUALLY GET THERE.
AND AS AN ACTIVE VIOLATION TAKING PLACE, WE ALSO WORK CLOSELY WITH PD.
PD DOES MOST OF THE NOISE COMPLAINTS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE USUALLY AFTER OURS.
WE'RE NOT HERE, SO WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND THAT THEY CALL PD.
PD DOES SHOW UP AND THEY ADDRESS THOSE NOISE ISSUES.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IN THE CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT DEALING WITH ALL THESE COMPLAINTS.
SO OF THESE ABOUT 60 OR SO COMPLAINTS A YEAR, HOW MANY ARE THE SAME PROPERTIES? SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS MULTI VIOLATION, TIERED VIOLATION, IS THIS PRETTY PROLIFERATE OR IS IT VERY CONCENTRATED? IT'S PRETTY CONCENTRATED.
IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A LOT OF THE SAME PROPERTIES.
THEY MAY SAY ON A SATURDAY NIGHT THEY GET A GROUP THAT STAYS UNTIL TUESDAY.
THOSE BUT THOSE ARE THE COMPLAINTS.
BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD A PROLIFERATION OF THE SAME PROPERTY BEING COMPLAINED ABOUT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD TO KNOW.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, I BELIEVE, HAS A QUESTION AS WELL.
YEAH. REGGIE, DON'T GO AWAY TOO QUICKLY.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, REGGIE.
SO GIVEN THE NEW LAW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THIS NEW OPPORTUNITY WITH THE NEW REGULATIONS THAT THE STATE HAS GRANTED US THE ABILITY TO REGULATE. OF THE COMPLAINTS YOU'VE SEEN WHETHER THIS PAST YEAR.
WOULD YOU SAY? FIVE OF THEM QUALIFY FOR YOU KNOW VIOLATION CAUSES ZERO.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY SMALL NUMBER, AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY.
IS THAT TRUE? IS THAT TRUE THROUGH YOUR PERSPECTIVE? THAT IS, AGAIN, WE GET THE COMPLAINTS, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THE COMPLAINTS ARE ACTUAL VIOLATIONS.
AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE THING THAT WE HAVE TO DETERMINE AND DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THAT.
SO TALKING ABOUT WHAT, WHERE SHORT TERM RENTALS FALL IN THE ZONING CODE.
SO REALLY, WITH THE CURRENT STATUTES AS THEY ARE, SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE ALLOWED IN ALL ZONES WHERE RESIDENTIAL UNITS EXIST AND WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT GO THROUGH ALL OF THE ZONING CATEGORIES.
WE HAVE LEGAL NON-CONFORMING RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND INDUSTRIAL ZONES.
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SO ANYWHERE THAT THERE IS A LEGAL AND I WILL SAY LEGAL RESIDENTIAL UNIT, BECAUSE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE A SHORT TERM RENTAL POPS UP AND SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE DON'T CONSIDER TO BE A LEGAL RESIDENTIAL UNIT, THOSE ARE ALLOWED BY RATE, ALL OF SO THE USE SHORT TERM RENTAL IS NOT A LISTED USE IN THE ZONING CODE, IT'S WHAT RENTAL, IT'S WHAT RESIDENTIAL UNIT IS PERMITTED.SO IN MOST INSTANCES YOU'VE SEEN THAT THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
SO THAT'S THE USE THAT FALLS UNDER THE CODE.
SO WHEN WE DO REGULATIONS IN TERMS OF IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO APPLY TO SHORT TERM RENTAL, YOU'RE GOING TO END UP APPLYING IT TO ALL OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THAT CATEGORY.
FOR EXAMPLE, ALL RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.
SO SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE ALLOWED.
THAT'S JUST A CLEANUP THAT HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED IN THE ZONING CODE.
SO RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND YOU'RE ALLOWED AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, THE CODE WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN THAT YOU IT WAS INTENDED SO THAT YOU COULD RENT OUT THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
AND THE WAY THE CODE IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN IS YOU COULD RENT OUT EITHER YOU COULD RENT OUT THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE AND LIVE IN THE ADU, OR YOU COULD RENT OUT THE ADU AND LIVE IN THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
SO WITH THE LAST ROUND OF AMENDMENTS THAT WAS MADE TO SHORT TERM RENTALS, WE INCLUDED ANOTHER PROVISION AND IT'S BUILT AN INCENTIVE TO NOT HAVE SHORT TERM RENTALS AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT CAN BE AN ISSUE.
YOU CAN GO THE ROUTE OF YOU LIVE IN ONE AND YOU RENT ONE, OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RENT BOTH UNITS, BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH OUR HOUSING INVENTORY. AS LONG AS YOU COMMIT THAT NEITHER OF THEM WILL BE SHORT TERM RENTALS, YOU CAN RUN BOTH OF THEM.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'LL BE HEARING ABOUT IN TERMS OF SHORT TERM RENTALS.
COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY. WELL, MAYBE I'M NOT PAYING ATTENTION, BUT THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
I THOUGHT THAT WE COULD NOT CONTROL IF SOMEONE RENTS THEIR PROPERTY OUT AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
SO IF THEY HAVE A HOUSE, THEY CAN RENT IT OUT AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
IF THEY HAVE AN ADU, THEY CAN RENT IT OUT AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
THAT.. ISN'T THAT IN CONFLICT TO THE STATE LAW? NO. ONE OF THE UNITS HAD TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED.
ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE PROVIDED AN INCENTIVE.
THEY ARE LIMITED IN SIZE AND SQUARE FOOTAGE.
WE EXEMPT THEM FROM GETTING A SEPARATE WATER METER SO THEY ARE TIED TO THE PRINCIPAL DWELLING.
SO ONLY ONE OF THE UNITS CAN BE RENTED, WHETHER LONG TERM OR SHORT TERM.
AND THAT'S NOT A CONFLICT WITH THE STATE LAW.
I TAKE IT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME? CORRECT. THAT IS HOW THE CODE WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN.
IT'S HOW MANY ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT CODES ARE WRITTEN.
A COVENANT IS RECORDED AT THE TIME THAT THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS ESTABLISHED, AND THAT COVENANT THEN CARRIES ON ON ALL FUTURE TITLE REPORTS AND IT DETAILS.
IT'S RESTRICTED THAT ONLY ONE UNIT COULD BE RENTED.
SO THIS NEXT TIME AROUND WE JUST GOT CREATIVE OK.
WE'LL LET YOU RENT BOTH UNITS, BUT NEITHER CAN BE SHORT TERM.
SO YOU HAVE A CHOICE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO A SHORT TERM RENTAL, YOU CAN ONLY RENT ONE.
IF YOU CAN COMMIT TO LONG TERM RENTAL, WILL LET YOU RENT BOTH.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE RECENT STATUTE, THERE ARE, THERE'S TERMINOLOGY AND DISCUSSION ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS AND EVENTS THAT HAPPEN WITHIN THESE PROPERTIES.
SO SOMETIMES THE PROPERTY, A SHORT TERM SINGLE FAMILY HOME, SHORT TERM RENTAL IS RENTED FOR THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A WEDDING OR A PARTY OR I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST OF EVENTS THAT OCCUR WITHIN THESE PROPERTIES.
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SO THE TEMPORARY USE PERMIT PROCESS DOES ALLOW FOR SPECIAL EVENTS IN ALL KINDS OF ZONING DISTRICTS, AND THEY'RE SET PROCESS THAT GOES THAT THESE GO THROUGH.AND IT'S GOT A FAIRLY OLD DEFINITION.
IT STILL TALKS ABOUT BEING LIKE A GRANGE HALL.
WE ALSO INCLUDED RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS UNDER NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING LOCATIONS.
IT WAS A WAY TO TRY TO NOT CALL OUT CHURCHES AND RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS SEPARATELY.
WE BECAUSE OF CERTAIN STATE LEGISLATION THAT'S ALSO BEEN ADOPTED IN REGARDS TO RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS, WE'VE NOW CALLED THEM BACK OUT AS A SEPARATE USE AS WELL. SO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING FACILITY USE COULD PROBABLY BE UPDATED AS WELL.
AND THE CITY JUST AS A NOTE THAT THE CITY CAN'T REQUIRE DEVELOPERS TO PROVIDE CARS THAT PROHIBIT SHORT TERM RENTALS. WE DO KNOW THAT COMMUNITIES CAN, THROUGH THEIR HOAS, CREATE RESTRICTIONS ON SHORT TERM RENTALS.
THERE ARE SOME THERE'S A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD IN PHENIX, I BELIEVE, THAT'S GONE THROUGH AND CREATED A NEW HOA JUST FOR THIS PURPOSE OF REGULATING OR PROHIBITING SHORT TERM RENTALS. WE DO OFTEN WORK WITH DEVELOPERS.
IT IS SOMETHING WE DISCUSS WITH THEM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS.
AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DEVELOPERS WHO HAVE DONE THAT AND THERE ARE SEVERAL SUBDIVISIONS ALREADY THAT HAVE DONE IT OR HAVE TRIED TO CHANGE THEIR CC&RS TO DO SUCH A THING. AND WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OVER.
THAT WAS GREAT. TO CLARIFY THAT OUR ZONING DOESN'T REGULATE SHORT TERM RENTALS.
IT'S JUST OUR CITY CODE WHICH CONFORMS WITH LAW.
SO THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU ALLOWED TO DO NOW UNDER THE NEW LAW, WHICH WENT INTO EFFECT IN SEPTEMBER.
WE CAN ALSO REQUIRE PAYMENT OF A LICENSE FEE OF UP TO $250, WHICH WOULD HELP COVER SOME OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS FOR KEEPING TRACK OF THESE AND CODE COMPLIANCE.
AGAIN, WE'RE ALLOWED TO REQUEST EMERGENCY CONTACT INFORMATION.
FOR SOME REASON, THE LEGISLATURE FELT LIKE WE NEED TO CHECK WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL FIRST.
IF WE IF WE WANT TO ASK FOR EMERGENCY CONTACT INFORMATION, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
AND WE CAN CHARGE UP TO $1,000 CIVIL PENALTY IF THE OWNER FAILS TO PROVIDE THAT EMERGENCY CONTACT INFORMATION WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER WE'VE ASKED FOR IT. THE IT'S NOW REQUIRED TO SHOW THAT THE OWNER HAS A TRANSACTION PRIVILEGE TEXT LICENSE, WHICH IS A GOOD CHANGE.
AND THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE CLAUSES.
YOU CAN REQUIRE THE OWNER TO AGREE TO COMPLY WITH ALL LAWS.
SO IF THE CITY GIVES DIRECTION OR YOU THE COUNCIL GIVES DIRECTION THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE A LICENSING SYSTEM AND WE ADOPT THAT ANY LICENSE NEEDS TO BE ISSUED OR DENIED WITHIN SEVEN BUSINESS DAYS.
THERE IS A REFERENCE TO THIS STATUTE.
ARS 9-835 OUR CITY ALREADY COMPLIES WITH THAT.
SO THE LEGISLATION ALSO PROVIDES GROUNDS FOR DENIAL OF A LICENSE.
THOSE INCLUDE FAILURE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, PROVIDING FALSE INFORMATION.
YOU DIDN'T PAY THE LICENSE FEE.
SORRY, I'M JUST GOING TO READ THIS.
IN DEATH OR SERIOUS INJURY OR USE OF A DEADLY WEAPON IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
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SO IF YOU WANTED TO DO BACKGROUND CHECKS, THAT WOULD BE A CITY EXPENSE AND THE CITY WOULD NEED TO DO THAT.ALL RIGHT. I FIGURED OUT HOW TO MOVE THE PAGES ALONG.
I THINK MOST NEIGHBORS DO KNOW WHEN THERE'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL NEXT TO THEM, BUT THE CITY COULD REQUIRE THE OWNER TO PROVIDE NOTICE ALONG WITH THE EMERGENCY CONTACT INFORMATION.
AND THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR NEIGHBORS TO HAVE.
THE LAW ALSO DISCUSSES ADVERTISEMENTS, BACKGROUND, OTHER KINDS OF BACKGROUND CHECKS AND INSURANCE.
THEN THE CITY MAY NOW REQUIRE ADS TO LIST OUR LOCAL SHORT TERM RENTAL LICENSE NUMBER.
BUT THE BOOKING GUEST IS NOT NECESSARILY WHO ENDS UP STAYING AT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL.
SO. I WANT TO TALK NOW ABOUT VIOLATIONS, BECAUSE VIOLATIONS ARE WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER IMPOSE A CIVIL PENALTY OR TO SUSPEND A LICENSE.
SO THE STATUTE DEFINES THE VIOLATION AS A VERIFIED VIOLATION, WHICH MEANS A FINAL DECISION ADJUDICATION OF GUILT, WHICH WOULD BE IN COURT OR CIVIL RESPONSIBILITY, WHICH COULD BE THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING PROCESS.
AFTER ALL, THE APPEALS ARE EXHAUSTED.
THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A PROCESS THAT IT WENT THROUGH AND THEN IT WAS A FINAL DECISION.
SO, I MEAN, IF THE OWNER SAID, YES, I ADMIT THAT WAS A CODE VIOLATION, THAT COULD BE POSSIBLY A FINAL ADJUDICATION. BUT OTHERWISE THERE IS AN APPEALS PROCESS THAT WOULD NEED TO RUN THROUGH THAT.
SO HERE THE STATE LEGISLATURE DECIDED WHAT PENALTIES WE COULD CHARGE FOR VIOLATIONS.
AND EACH OF THESE HAVE TO OCCUR WITHIN ONE YEAR.
SO IT'S $500 FOR FIRST VIOLATION, UP TO 1000 FOR TWO VIOLATIONS, $3,500 FOR THREE VIOLATIONS WITHIN A YEAR. AND THEN THEY SAID OR YOU COULD CHARGE WHATEVER THE HIGHER AMOUNT IS IF IT'S ONE NIGHT RENT, TWO NIGHTS RENT OR THREE NIGHTS RENT, I GUESS IN PARADISE VALLEY AND PLACES LIKE THAT, THEY CAN HAVE SOME PRETTY EXPENSIVE RENT.
AND SO THEY FELT LIKE THIS WAS AN INCENTIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT VIOLATIONS DIDN'T OCCUR.
HOWEVER, THIS IS THE LOOPHOLE.
THAT ONLY COUNTS AS ONE FOR ONE VIOLATION FOR THE FOR PURPOSES OF PENALTIES AND LICENSE SUSPENSIONS.
SO KIND OF CONVOLUTED SYSTEM HERE.
AND AND HERE LISTING OUT THE GROUNDS FOR LICENSE SUSPENSION.
THERE NEED TO BE THREE VERIFIED VIOLATIONS WITHIN ONE YEAR, AND THEY CAN'T BE RELATED TO ANYTHING ESTHETIC TRASH, LITTER, PARKING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
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IF THE OWNER HAS DONE SOMETHING REALLY BAD, LIKE HE'S COMMITTED A FELONY IN OR NEAR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, HE'S HIS CONDUCT HAS ALLOWED SERIOUS PHYSICAL INJURY OR WRONGFUL DEATH AT A SHORT TERM RENTAL, OR HE'S KNOWINGLY ALLOWED A SEX OFFENDER, ALL THOSE SEX RELATED ACTIVITIES TO OCCUR OR FOR SOBER LIVING HOME OR THE OWNER HAS KNOWINGLY ALLOWED A SPECIAL EVENT THAT WOULD OTHERWISE REQUIRE PERMIT TO OCCUR ON THE PRESENCE.PREMISES OR ALLOWED A RETAIL RESTAURANT BANQUET SPACE OR SIMILARLY USE.
IN OTHER WORDS, HE'S ALLOWED AND OR HE OR SHE OR IT OWNER COULD BE AN IT HAS ALLOWED AN UNLAWFUL USE TO OCCUR AT THE PREMISES KNOWINGLY. YOU GOT ALL THAT? I KNOW IT'S A LOT.
OK. I'M GOING TO TURN THIS SLIDE BACK TO TIFFANY.
SO WE AS A GROUP TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHAT WE COULD ACTUALLY DO WITHIN THE ZONING CODE.
WE WERE ALL REALLY EXCITED THAT MAYBE THIS LEGISLATIVE ROUND THAT WE GOT BACK SOME ABILITY TO REGULATE SHORT TERM RENTALS THROUGH THE ZONING CODE.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO WITHIN THE ZONING CODE TO ASSIST WITH THE THE CITY CODE SECTIONS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE WOULD BE TO DEFINE WHAT A SPECIAL EVENT WOULD BE IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, A ONE TIME EVENT IS NOTHING.
WHEN YOU'RE A NEIGHBOR, YOU HAVE A PARTY.
YOU GO OVER AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE HAVING A PARTY.
COME ON OVER. THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS HAPPEN WITH A SHORT TERM RENTAL TYPE SITUATION.
I JUST BARGE OVER AND GO TO THEIR EVENT ANYWAY.
SO WE COULD LOOK AT DEFINING SPECIAL EVENTS.
WE COULD REGULATE THEM THROUGH TEMPORARY USE PERMITS.
SPECIAL EVENTS COULD BE AN EVENT WHERE AN ADMISSION IS CHARGED.
I MEAN, CERTAINLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED, ESPECIALLY AT MAYBE I DON'T WANT TO CALL OUT ANY PARTICULAR USE, BUT MAYBE A PARTY WHERE A COVER FEE IS CHARGED TO ATTEND BECAUSE MAYBE A BAND'S PLAYING OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
A SPECIAL EVENT COULD ALSO BE WITH A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
NOT THE EASIEST THING TO REGULATE.
WE'RE NOT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND IT'S NOT AS IF WE COULD REALLY GO TO THE EVENT AND COUNT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, ARE THERE, IS THERE THE OCCASIONAL TIME WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN AND GETS A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT FOR A WEDDING? THERE IS, IT'S VERY RARE.
BUT YOU COULD SEE HOW OVER TIME A SERIES OF EVENTS COULD BECOME DRAINING ON A NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE COULD ALSO REQUIRE A PERMIT FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AND THE RESIDENTIAL ZONES.
SO USE OF A SHORT TERM RESIDENTIAL, THE USE OF A SHORT TERM RENTAL FOR A SPECIAL EVENT WHICH WOULD OTHERWISE REQUIRE A PERMIT IS UNLAWFUL. SO WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME OTHER VERY DIFFERENT PERMIT, NOT THE TEMPORARY USE PERMIT.
SO IF WE CAME UP WITH AN EVENT CENTER, SOMETHING THAT WAS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN COMMERCIAL ZONES AND WAS CLEARLY NOT PERMITTED WITHIN A SHORT TERM RENTAL, SO A SHORT TERM RENTAL WAS BEING USED IN A WAY THAT IT WOULD MEET THE DEFINITION OF THAT EVENT CENTER.
THEN WE COULD ALSO FIND A CLEAR VIOLATION IN THAT REGARD.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS ALONG THE WAY, LIKE PARKING AND THE ZONING CODE.
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WE'D HAVE TO SET THEM FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL UNITS.AND THAT'S WHERE IT GETS TOUGH.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A QUICK COMMENT AS WE DO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS TOPIC, JUST TO KEEP ENFORCEMENT IN MIND, WHICH I KNOW WE ARE, BUT WHEN WE PRESENT TO COUNCIL, MAYBE JUST ALWAYS THROUGH THE LENS OF ENFORCEMENT, IF THIS IS ADDITIONAL WORK, IF IT'S LESS WORK, SAYING I JUST WANT TO KEEP OUR LIMITED ENFORCEMENT ABILITIES IN MIND.
THANK YOU. WELL STATED, COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI.
ALL RIGHT, SO, DAN, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COCONINO COUNTY, WHAT THEY'RE KIND OF PLANNING ON THEIR END AND HOW WE CAN COORDINATE? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, DAN FULLER, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'VE HAD A PUBLIC DISCUSSION YET WITH THE FULL BOARD, BUT I WAS IN A MEETING THIS MORNING WITH TWO BOARD MEMBERS AND SOME STAFF, AND I THINK WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, I BELIEVE, IS SOME KIND OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT.
THEY DON'T DO BUSINESS LICENSING EVIDENTLY IN COCONINO COUNTY, WE WOULD PROBABLY CALL IT A LICENSE.
THAT'S ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS UP THERE, BUT I THINK THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING IT AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT AND THEN VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS OUTLINED TODAY, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'VE ACTUALLY MADE ANY PROPOSAL FOR A FORMAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM OR ANYTHING , BUT I THINK IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT OUR STAFF HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
IS THAT HELPFUL? SOMEWHAT, I GUESS, SINCE THEY HAVEN'T GONE PUBLIC, IT MIGHT BE HARD TO DISCUSS, BUT I JUST URGE COUNCIL IN FUTURE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE COORDINATE WITH THE COUNTY SO THAT IF ONE HOUSE ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET IS VIOLATING SOMETHING, THEY HAVE THE SAME CONSEQUENCES AS THE HOUSE ON THE CITY SIDE.
THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS THAT MAKE SENSE NOT ONLY FOR OUR RESIDENTS BUT FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE RENTING THESE PROPERTIES AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED, AND THERE SHOULD BE LESS CONFUSION IF WE HAVE THE SAME REQUIREMENTS.
SO AS WE COORDINATE, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF LET'S JUST FOLLOW WHAT THE COUNTY DOES IT.
SO LET'S COORDINATE IN GOOD FAITH, BUT AS THE CITY LIMITS IS FACING A LOT MORE ISSUES THAN, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW, WILLIAMS THEN WE SHOULD DEFER TO OUR OWN JUDGMENT AS WELL.
WITH THAT, I DO HAVE A FEW POINTS, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER SALAS.
I'M CURIOUS TO FIND OUT WHAT OTHER CITIES AND TOWNS IN THE STATE ARE MULLING OVER OR HAVE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED AND HAVE ADOPTED AND IMPLEMENTED SO FAR.
THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER SALAS.
THAT'S DONE AND IT'S AVAILABLE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT IF WE RECEIVE DIRECTION TO AMEND OUR CITY CODE TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE REGISTRATION SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TO MORE OF A LICENSING SYSTEM.
SO THERE IS A MODEL FORM OF ORDINANCE OUT THERE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT GOODYEAR AND MESA HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED ORDINANCES THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT JANUARY 1ST OF 2023, AND I BELIEVE SCOTTSDALE MAY HAVE ADOPTED THEIRS AS WELL, AND ALSO TO GO INTO EFFECT IN JANUARY.
THE OTHER CITIES ARE STILL WORKING, WORKING TOWARDS.
SO DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF THE KIND OF THE SALIENT POINTS OF THE ORDINANCES THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED OR WORKING THROUGH? BASICALLY, I THINK CITIES ARE TRYING TO REGULATE TO THE EXTENT THEY CAN, SOME OF THE PENALTY CLAUSES WHICH ARE MORE COMPLEX.
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I DID NOTICE IN MESA'S ORDINANCE, THEY JUST SET IT AT 1000, 2000, 3000.THEY DON'T WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S ONE NIGHT'S RENT OR TWO NIGHTS RENT OR THAT'S JUST LIKE THERE GOES TO COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI COMMENT ABOUT TRYING TO SIMPLIFY ENFORCEMENT.
CITY MANAGER, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER SALAS.
I KNOW YOUR QUESTION WAS FOCUSED ON THE STATE OF ARIZONA, BUT I'D LIKE TO SHARE WHAT WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN COLORADO, WHICH IS NO DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE DEALING WITH THE STR ISSUES.
SO PREVALENT ISSUE IN MANY STATES.
OF COURSE, IN COLORADO, JUST TO STATE WITH ACCURACY, THERE'S MUCH LESS PREEMPTION.
SO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WERE FREE TO DO A LOT MORE TO REGULATE.
IN FACT, IN SOME OF THE MORE EXTREME EXAMPLES, THERE WERE CAPS PLACED ON THE NUMBER OF STR'S ZONING REGULATIONS TO RESTRICT THEM AND SO FORTH.
SO EVEN WITH THAT MORE RELAXED ENVIRONMENT FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT RESTRICTION, I DON'T MIND SHARING WITH YOU THAT WHAT SEEMED TO BE A VERY SUCCESSFUL MODEL AND PREVALENTLY USED WAS THAT OF LICENSING IN ONE COMMUNITY THAT I DID SERVE , LICENSING WAS PUT INTO PLACE AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS OF DISCUSSION BY THE TOWN COUNCIL AND PROPERLY VETTED THROUGH THE MANY REALTOR ASSOCIATIONS AND LODGING ASSOCIATIONS AND SO FORTH.
SO THE MATTER WAS A HOT TOPIC.
LICENSING WAS DEEMED TO BE AN APPROACH THAT WOULD REQUIRE MINIMAL STAFFING RESOURCES SOMEWHAT IN RESPONSE TO COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI COMMENT ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND EXCEPT HERE, WE'RE TALKING ADMINISTRATIVE STAFFING.
I THINK WE HEARD AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESENTATION AND WHAT AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION IT WAS THAT OUR CURRENT THIRD PARTY PROVIDER LODGING REPS CAN EASILY INTEGRATE A LICENSING ADMINISTRATION INTO THE PRODUCT THAT THEY USE TO MONITOR OUR STRS. THAT IS EXTREMELY CONVENIENT IF WE CAN AVOID HAVING TO HIRE STAFF PEOPLE TO OVERSEE A NEW PROGRAM.
THAT'S A BIG DEAL FOR FOR THE ORGANIZATION.
SO I'M NOT HERE NECESSARILY TO ADVOCATE FOR LICENSING, BUT I THINK KIND OF IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, AT LEAST IN ANOTHER STATE WHERE THIS HAS BEEN DEALT WITH SIMILARLY TO HOW IT'S BEING DEALT WITH NOW IN ARIZONA, LICENSING WAS WAS DEEMED TO BE A MODEL THAT HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS TO IT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT EDIFIED INFORMATION, MR. CITY MANAGER. SO IN YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH OTHER WITH OTHER STATE, DID THEIR ORDINANCE OR POLICY ON SHORT TERM RENTALS REQUIRE OTHER INSPECTION LIKE A FIRE INSPECTION.
I'M JUST THINKING BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE OPERATING, EVEN JUST LIKE AN EIGHT ROOM MOTEL, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH FIRE INSPECTION, BUILDING INSPECTION, ADA COMPLIANCE, HEALTH AND SAFETY WITH THE COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND THEN IF YOU'RE SERVING FOOD, THERE'S ANOTHER OR BREAKFAST OR EVEN JUST CONTINENTAL BREAKFAST, THERE'S ANOTHER LAYER OF INSPECTION. SO WERE THOSE [INAUDIBLE] AND THE SHORT TERM RENTALS POLICIES OR ORDINANCES? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
THEY WERE VERY SALIENT ISSUES IN ALL THE JURISDICTIONS.
PROBABLY TOPPING THE LIST WAS FIRE CODE COMPLIANCE FOR SAFETY REASONS, OBVIOUSLY.
IT WAS A TOPIC OF A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN THE JURISDICTION THAT I WAS MAKING REFERENCE TO, AND IN THE END, THE COUNCIL, AFTER VERY THOUGHTFUL DELIBERATION, DECIDED NOT TO ALLOW OR MANDATE, IT'S ALWAYS ALLOWED, BUT NOT TO MANDATE ONSITE INSPECTIONS.
THEY CAN OCCUR IF THERE'S ENOUGH COMPLAINTS AND THERE ARE INTERNAL MECHANISMS BY WHICH THOSE THOSE INSPECTIONS CAN CAN COME ABOUT IF THERE ARE TRUE LIFE SAFETY CONCERNS , BUT THAT REALLY THE TOPIC WAS, WAS IT GOING TO BE A PREREQUISITE TO A LICENSE AND THE COUNCIL DECIDED NO, THEY WERE NOT GOING TO GO THAT FAR
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WITH IT. THEY DID REQUIRE THAT THOSE SEEKING.A LICENSE TO SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT SAYING THAT THE PROPERTY TO BE SUBJECT TO STRS WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODES , AND THAT'S AS FAR AS THE COUNCIL WENT WITH THAT.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT COULD OCCUR IN ARIZONA.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS WOULD WOULD BE.
THANK YOU. WELL, I SUPPORT A LICENSING SYSTEM.
I THINK THIS IS GOOD NOT JUST FOR THE IDEA OF ANY PENALIZATIONS, BUT IT HELPS US WITH OUR TAX RECORDS AND ENSURING THAT WE ARE GETTING THE PROPER TAXES FROM THESE AS WE'RE STILL NOT CAPTURING 100% OF THE STRS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE CITY, AND THIS PROVIDES AN INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO SIGN UP AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COLLECTING THE APPROPRIATE TAXES, JUST LIKE THE LODGING INDUSTRY IS DOING FOR MOTELS AND HOTELS AND IS REQUIRED TO DO.
I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION REGARDING THE LICENSING COSTS.
IS THAT ANNUAL OR A ONE TIME LICENSE? MAYOR DEASY THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
THE STATUTE IS SILENT ON HOW LONG THE LICENSE TERM CAN BE.
HOWEVER, THERE IS A REFERENCE IN THERE THAT A LICENSE CAN BE DENIED AFTER.
SO I THINK THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS THAT A LICENSE IS ANNUAL AND THAT IS HOW THE OTHER CITIES TO COUNCILMEMBER SALAS THIS QUESTION IS REGULATING, IS THAT A LICENSE WILL BE ANNUAL.
SO IF A LICENSES ANNUAL, THE LICENSE FEE WILL BE ANNUAL ALSO, AND OF COURSE, WHENEVER WE ADOPT A LICENSE FEE, WE HAVE TO DO THE WEBSITE NOTICE WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DATA TO SUPPORT THE LICENSE FEE, BUT OF COURSE WE CAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT CODE COMPLIANCE TIME AND THE STR LODGING [INAUDIBLE] SOFTWARE COST, WHICH IS LIKE 25,000 A YEAR AS WELL AS OTHER STAFF TIME.
THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE HAVING A LICENSING COST WHERE ALREADY? I MEAN, WE'RE DROPPING 25 GRAND A YEAR JUST TO TRACK THIS SITUATION, AND IN ADDITION, ENFORCEMENT COSTS, ETC., FOR 60 ENTITIES A YEAR. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO THEY SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THAT [INAUDIBLE] THAT SECTOR, IN TERMS OF THE NOTIFYING EMERGENCY CONTACT INFORMATION TO NEIGHBORS OR LETTING THEM KNOW A SHORT TERM RENTALS, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING, ESPECIALLY BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT CONTACT INFORMATION WILL ALLOW US POTENTIALLY FOR NEIGHBORS TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION WITHOUT THE NEED FOR CODE COMPLIANCE OR THE POLICE HAVING TO SHOW UP POTENTIALLY IN TERMS OF THE BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR BOOKING GUESTS, I THINK THAT IS UNNECESSARY AND EASILY AVERTED BY ANYONE WHO WANTS TO GET A FRIEND TO DO IT RATHER THAN THEMSELVES.
UNNECESSARY TIME AND EXPENSE FOR US TO HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THE LIABILITY INSURANCE.
IF, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEBODY IS IN CITY LIMITS HAVING A BONFIRE DURING FIRE SEASON AND BURNS DOWN THE NEIGHBORS HOUSE, YES, I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT.
I LIKE THE SIMPLICITY OF NOT HAVING TO CALCULATE THE RENT AMOUNT.
LET'S JUST DO THE STRAIGHT PENALTY AT THE CAP OF WHAT IS ALREADY STATED IN THE STATE LAW AND LEAGUE OF CITIES AND TOWNS RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN WITH THIS SPECIAL EVENT, I'M SAYING NO.
I MEAN, WE'RE IF WE HAVE TO DO THIS ACROSS THE BOARD, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? A CAP OF 25 AND BREAK UP MY KID'S BIRTHDAY PARTY? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY WHEN IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT IF COUNCILMEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT IN, BUT I THINK THAT'S ALSO GOING TO ADD A LAYER TO ADDED TIME FOR ENFORCEMENT AND CALCULATING WHETHER THAT'S HAPPENING OR NOT AND HAVING TO DOCUMENT IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY GET MESSY EVEN IF THEY ARE DOING A CLEAR ADMISSIONS FEE.
SO I'M SUGGESTING NO NEW DEFINITION FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
SO HOPEFULLY I GOT ALL THAT, BUT YES, THE LICENSES AND I WON'T GO THROUGH IT AGAIN.
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I JUST WENT THROUGH IT. COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI.THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU.
I THINK I'M EVERYTHING YOU SAID, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS COUNCILMEMBER SALAS, I WAS THINKING ABOUT YOU AND COST RECOVERY AND MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS SET UP TO BE A NET ZERO COST RECOVERY PROGRAM.
IS THAT FLEXIBLE MONEY THAT THE CITY CAN USE TO PAY FOR THAT STR SOFTWARE AND WHATNOT? COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI, ALL FEES THAT THE CITY CHARGES HAVE TO BE REASONABLY RELATED TO YOUR COSTS OF REGULATION.
THE LICENSE FEE COULD HELP PAY FOR CODE COMPLIANCE.
THE LICENSE FEE COULD HELP PAY FOR.
I GUESS, STAFF TIME ON ANY KIND OF LICENSE, SUSPENSION OR HEARING PROCESS.
I KNOW ONE, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR OWN HEARING OFFICER INTERNALLY AND WE HIRED SOMEONE, FOR INSTANCE, AND THEY WERE COSTS RELATED TO THAT AND WE COULD TRACK THAT, WE COULD SHOW THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL COST THAT WE'D BUILD INTO OUR OUR LICENSE FEE.
I THINK REGGIE CAN USE A I WON'T EVEN SAY IT, BUT A NEW MEMBER TO YOUR TEAM TO HELP OUT.
HOW ABOUT THAT? I DO WANT TO TAKE A QUICK STEP BACK, COUNSEL, AND JUST SAY THAT I WENT TO THAT HOUSING COMMITTEE MEETING THAT AND COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY YOU WERE THERE WITH THE STATE COMMITTEE THAT THEY HAD PUT TOGETHER WITH THE LEGISLATURE, AND WHEN I COMMENTED ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS, I BELIEVE WAS TO MY COMMENT, THEY RESPONDED AND SAID, WELL, DID YOU SEE WHAT WE'VE JUST PASSED? DID YOU SEE THE NEW REGULATION? AND I WAS REALLY HOPEFUL THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO ALLOW US SOME SOME POWER HERE.
I'M LOOKING AT TODD MADEKSZA, OUR STATE LOBBYIST, AND I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THIS IS REALLY NOT HITTING THE MARK AT ALL IN MY OPINION, AND I HAVE A FEELING THAT COUNCIL AGREES WITH ME BECAUSE MY ISSUE IS THE QUANTITY AND THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS THE QUANTITY AT ALL.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF OUR STATE COMMUNICATION, AND I'M SURE THEY'LL HEAR IT FROM A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS REALLY NOT DOING A WHOLE LOT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALLOWING US TO LICENSE AND THEN POTENTIALLY ADD A FEW EXTRA THINGS, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY GO FAR.
I ALSO THINK IT SHOULD BE A STRAIGHT AMOUNT.
IT SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING WE GENERATE.
I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LICENSING.
I THINK THIS WOULD BE GOOD, AND TO CITY MANAGERS COMMENTS.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT, AND I DO WONDER IF THERE'S A GOOD MODEL IN COLORADO THAT WE CAN KIND OF COMPARE AND LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, AND SEE WHERE THAT OVERLAPS WITH THE OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IN GENERATING AND CRAFTING THIS OBVIOUSLY, THROUGH THE LENS OF WHAT WE'RE GRANTED TO DO, BUT IT'D BE GOOD TO LOOK AT A COMMUNITY THAT'S REALLY THOUGHT THIS THROUGH, PUT TIME INTO IT, HAS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND REALLY IS THE MODEL IN COLORADO, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
WELL, THANK YOU. I THINK WHILE IT WAS CONVENIENT TO REFERENCE WHAT HAPPENED IN COLORADO SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE QUESTION ABOUT LICENSING, I WOULD STOP SHORT OF RECOMMENDING THAT WE USE IT AS A MODEL HERE IN ARIZONA.
I THINK WE NEED TO FOLLOW OUR OWN STATE LEGISLATION AND WHAT THE DO'S AND DON'TS ARE, AND WE HAVE A LEAGUE NOW THAT HAS PRODUCED A MODEL ORDINANCE AND THAT IS PROBABLY A REALLY GOOD STARTING PLACE FOR ALL THIS.
I'M JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS COUNCIL DIRECTION TO START LOOKING AT EVENTS AND WHATNOT, I WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT COLORADO AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE DONE BECAUSE I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK WE SHOULD, BUT HOPEFULLY THE MAJORITY I THINK, FEELS SIMILARLY.
SO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI.
WE'LL GO COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY THEN COUNCILMEMBER ASLAN AND THEN VICE MAYOR.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M VERY GLAD TO HEAR THAT THERE'S NOW A LAW SAYING THAT WE MUST FOLLOW THE LAW.
ALL RIGHT, ON A MORE SERIOUS TONE, SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE BASICALLY HOTELS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
SO I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION IN.
DO THEY PAY A TAX ON THESE RENTAL FEES THE SAME AS YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE A HOTEL?
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IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'D BE THE SALES TAX PLUS THE 2% BBB.YES, AND THE ONLINE LODGING OPERATOR PLATFORM COLLECTS THAT TAX.
ALL RIGHT, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I ALSO NOTED WITH INTEREST MS. SALAS' COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOTELS ARE REQUIRED TO MEET ADA, HEALTH CARE, HEALTH CODES, ETC., AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY UNFAIR COMPETITION BECAUSE THE SHORT TERM RENTALS, THEY GET OUT OF ALL THAT STUFF.
SO THEY'RE REALLY COMPETING UNFAIRLY WITH HOTELS AND MOTELS.
EDITORIAL COMMENT AS FAR AS AN ANNUAL LICENSE, I THINK WE SHOULD REQUIRE THAT, AND THE FEES SHOULD BE COMMENSURATE WITH WHAT OUR ACTUAL COSTS ARE.
AS FAR AS FREE REGISTRATION LIKE WE DO NOW.
I WOULD SAY NO, IT SHOULD BE UNDER THE LICENSE AND THERE SHOULD BE A FEE FOR IT.
I DO THINK IT'S GOOD THAT THE NEIGHBORS GET THE CONTACT INFORMATION IN CASE THERE IS A PROBLEM, BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S EASIER FOR THE NEIGHBOR TO CALL THE PERSON THAN IT IS TO CALL THE POLICE OR CODE ENFORCEMENT OR WHATEVER.
JUST A QUICK NOTE ON SPECIAL EVENTS.
I WAS IN COLLEGE IN THE LATE SIXTIES AND EARLY SEVENTIES, AND WE HAD A VERY COMMON THING AND THEY WERE CALLED HOUSE PARTIES OR OPEN HOUSES, AND WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD GO TO A PERSON'S HOUSE, WE GO IN THEIR BACKYARD.
NOW, I DON'T THINK THAT GOES ON MUCH NOW, BUT IT COULD.
SO I JUST KIND OF MENTION THAT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING NOW ON SPECIAL EVENTS , BUT IF SITUATIONS CHANGE AND THEY GO BACK TO THE WAY THEY WERE WHILE I WAS IN COLLEGE A LONG TIME AGO, THEN WE MIGHT RECONSIDER THAT.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO BACKGROUND CHECKS.
I THINK THAT'S ONEROUS AND PROBABLY WON'T YIELD A LOT OF SORTING OUT OF BAD PROBLEMS ANYWAY , AND INSURANCE.
I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT WE SHOULD REQUIRE INSURANCE AND WE WENT OVER AN AWFUL LOT TONIGHT.
I MAY HAVE MISSED A COUPLE, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ASK ME.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY HEAD'S AT ON THIS.
AGAIN, THESE ARE HOTELS IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY.
I DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENT ABOUT THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT AND ACCESS FOR DISABLED PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES TO TO ALSO USE SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND I THINK MAYBE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE TAKEN UP AT THE LEGISLATURE AND CONSIDERED.
I ALSO WANTED TO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION FROM COUNCILMEMBERS ON THE DIRECTION AS TO BACKGROUND CHECKS.
SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT KINDS THAT COULD OCCUR.
ONE WOULD BE THE CITY DOES A BACKGROUND CHECK ON THE OWNER OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, AND THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE THE OWNER DOES THE SEXUAL OFFENDER BACKGROUND CHECK ON THE BOOKING GUEST? WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE ANY BACKGROUND CHECKS.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT ARE PERMITTED.
ONE ON THE OWNER, AND THEN THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO DO AND PAY FOR.
OR THE ONE ON THE BOOKING GUEST, WHICH AGAIN, IS NOT NECESSARILY WHO ENDS UP STAYING AT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY COULD REQUIRE THE OWNER TO DO.
I'LL GO BACK TO THE TWO COUNCILMEMBERS AND THEN WE CAN, IN MY OPINION, ONE GUY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO ANY BACKGROUND CHECKS. HOWEVER, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF WHEN SOMEONE'S BOOKING THAT THEY ARE NOTIFIED THAT NO SEXUAL OFFENDERS ARE ALLOWED AND THAT THEY BE NOTIFIED OF THAT, BUT THAT WE DON'T GO TO THE EXTRA EXPENSE OF OF ACTUALLY CHECKING IT OUT.
WE'LL TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT, IN OTHER WORDS, IN MY OPINION.
I'M GOING TO BACKTRACK TO SHIMONI HERE.
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THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL BE QUICK.SO YEAH, I ALSO AM LEANING TOWARDS NO BACKGROUND CHECKS AT ALL.
WE DON'T DO THAT WITH OUR TPT LICENSING, DO WE? NO. OKAY, SO, YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT HERE.
I'D BE CURIOUS IF THEY DID THAT IN COLORADO, BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE'RE EVEN HEADING IN THAT DIRECTION, AND THEN, COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY, I'M NOT TOO SURE I FULLY UNDERSTOOD YOUR LAST PART OF YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT BEING NOTIFIED.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T BE A FELON OR WHATEVER IT IS TO RENT THE PROPERTY AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL? WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE LAW SAYS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO NOTIFY THE OWNERS AND THE RENTERS WHAT OF WHAT THE LAW IS AND THEN NOT GO TO THE EXPENSE OF ACTUALLY VERIFYING IT, TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT.
AGAIN I'M IN AGREEMENT AS STATED.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
I THINK WE'RE HAVING THE WRONG CONVERSATION HERE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
IT'S AGENDIZED, SO LET'S DO IT.
THIS STUFF IS HAPPENING AT THE LEGISLATURE.
I'M NOT HERE TO MICROMANAGE THE AIRBNB INDUSTRY.
I THINK THEY DO A GOOD ENOUGH JOB OF THAT ON THEIR OWN AND THE ENTIRE SHORT TERM RENTAL APPARATUS EXPERIMENT, IF YOU WILL, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS STILL SETTLING INTO ITS LONG TERM EXISTENCE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD PRACTICES OUT THERE.
WE DON'T NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
THEY CAN DO THAT ON THEIR OWN.
THERE'S A LOT OF SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO ROOT OUT BAD PLAYERS, BAD RENTERS, BAD HOSTS, BAD GUESTS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IN FLAGSTAFF.
WHEN I THINK OF SHORT TERM RENTALS AS COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI ALLUDED TO, IT'S ABOUT THE VOLUME.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CONDUCT OR THE BEHAVIOR THAT'S HAPPENING.
AS WITH ANYTHING IN LIFE, THERE'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOME SPOT FIRES AND PROBLEM ISSUES WE HAVE TO PUT OUT AND UNFORTUNATE MOMENTS OR EVENTS OR, YOU KNOW, RANDOM INTRODUCTION OF BAD FAITH ACTORS INTO THE SYSTEM, BUT I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT WE HAVE THAT KIND OF PROBLEM HERE.
YES, THERE ARE COMPLAINTS, AND I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO RESIDENTS WHO ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE WAY THAT GUESTS ARE COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT BEING GOOD.
GUESTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT'S FOR US TO REGULATE.
I THINK THAT'S THAT REGULATION HAPPENS WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
IF IF THINGS GET OUT OF CONTROL.
SO THAT'S GREAT, AND JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR, I'M HERE TO BRING CONSENSUS AND DIRECTION TO WHAT THE OTHER THREE FOLKS ON COUNCIL HAVE ALREADY STATED, PRETTY MUCH FOR EVERY BULLET POINT.
SO I THINK THAT'S THAT PROVIDES DIRECTION ON ALMOST EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT HOW DO WE INCENTIVIZE SHORT TERM RENTERS TO RENT LONG TERM TO OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE IN NEED OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THAT'S THE CONVERSATION I'D RATHER BE HAVING, AND OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO MICROMANAGE THE PROCESS, AND I WILL TELL YOU FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. SO A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO, BUT WE DISCOVERED AIRBNB AND WE USED IT FOR OUR OWN HOME.
MY FAMILY AND I WOULD ACTUALLY VACATE THE PREMISES TO ALLOW A GUEST TO COME ONTO OUR PROPERTY AND.
I THINK THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT AND SPIRIT OF WHAT AIRBNB WAS, AND IT QUICKLY TURNED INTO SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, IT WAS SO I'VE HAD A LIMITED EXPERIENCE WITH THAT.
IT'S INTERESTING, WHEN YOU LIVE IN THE HOME, YOU'RE INVITING STRANGERS INTO YOUR HOME.
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YOU'RE TRUSTING THEM TO NOT RIFLE THROUGH SENSITIVE AREAS, YOU'RE TRUSTING THEM TO LEAVE YOUR CARPET INTACT AND ANY NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS, NOT LEAVE THE FIREPLACE ON ALL NIGHT LONG OR ALL WEEK, YOU KNOW, FOR HOWEVER LONG IT IS, AND IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE.WHAT I HAD TROUBLE WITH IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'M BEING TOTALLY HONEST WITH YOU GUYS HERE, WE WOULD HAVE GUESTS OF COLOR COME TO STAY AT HER HOUSE AND WE WOULD GET COMPLAINTS.
THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD GET COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORS STARTING TO BE NERVOUS ABOUT WHO'S COMING AND GOING FROM OUR PROPERTY, AND THAT WAS REALLY DISGUSTING AND DISAPPOINTING TO ME. IF WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT REGULATION AND HOW TO KEEP THIS PROCESS ABOVE BOARD, I WOULD RECOMMEND ADDING SOME SORT OF COMPONENT TO REALLY EMPHASIZE THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND EQUITY OF THIS PROCESS.
NEIGHBORS CAN'T JUST BE COMPLAINING BECAUSE SHORT TERM RENTERS ARE DON'T LOOK LIKE THEY DO.
IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW, I'M MORE INTERESTED IN GETTING OUR RESIDENTS INTO LONG TERM STABLE HOUSING AND HOW WE CAN INCENTIVIZE THAT.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ASLAN.
YOU BROUGHT UP SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS, AND I DO AGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
FOR ME, THE MAYOR CHECKED OFF ALL MY MY CHECK MARKS, AND I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH EVERYTHING, SO YOU CAN PUT ME DOWN FOR THAT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST REINSTATE THAT.
I THINK WORKING WITH THE COUNTY IN THE UNIFORMITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL, AND I THINK BACKGROUND CHECK, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.
COUNCILMEMBER SALAS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR PUTTING ALL OF THIS INFORMATION FOR US TO KIND OF DIGEST AND DISCERN WHAT IS BEST FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF THE ENTIRE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF KIND OF LET ME BACKTRACK A BIT.
SO THE EARLY SLIDES, WE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR 887 UNIQUE PROPERTIES, AND 636 REGISTERED.
SO I AM GUESSING THOSE REGISTERED AS SHORT TERM RENTALS HAVE TPT LICENSES AND THEY PAY THE 2.281% TRANSACTION FEE [INAUDIBLE] CORRECT.
COUNCILMEMBER SALAS THEY SHOULD BE PAYING TRANSACTION TAX.
SO THAT MEANS WE HAVE ABOUT 251 UNREGULATED SHORT TERM RENTAL UNITS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN REGISTERED AND WHO HAVE NOT BEEN PAYING AT 2.31% TPT TAX.
ALSO, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS, WHETHER REGISTERED OR UNREGISTERED, DO NOT PAY THE CITY THE 2% BED BOARD AND BEVERAGE TAX.
I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THEY ARE NOT A HOTEL, AND THE THAT EXTRA 2% IS FOR HOTELS.
YES, SO JUST KIND OF DOING THE MATH HERE.
SO WE HAVE 887 UNITS NOT PAYING THE 2% BBB TAX THAT GOES TO FUND LAW ENFORCEMENT, PARKS AND RECREATION, LIBRARY, ARTS AND SCIENCES, BEAUTIFICATION, PUBLIC ARTS, OPEN SPACE TRAILS AND NATURAL AREAS.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE REGULATE SHORT TERM RENTALS.
WE ALREADY HAVE THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO USE IT TO TO GUIDE US AND ALSO HAVE THE LEAGUE OF CITIES MODEL A SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.
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SO I'M FOR LICENSING AND MOVING FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE AND AGREE WITH WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED SO FAR EXCEPT FOR THE BACKGROUND CHECK, AND NO, NOT INTERESTED IN THE TEMPORARY USE PERMIT FOR SPECIAL EVENTS IN ALL RESIDENTIAL AREAS.SO LET'S FOCUS ON THE SHORT TERM RENTAL LICENSES AND THEN REALLY BELIEVE THAT YES, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS HOUSING, AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT.
IN REGULATING SHORT TERM RENTALS, IF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS OF SHORT TERM RENTAL UNITS MAY LIKELY RENT THEIR PROPERTIES TO FAMILIES ON A LONG TERM BASIS, THEN THAT WILL ADD TO OUR HOUSING UNITS, BUT I DO, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE SURE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS SHORT TERM RENTALS AS ELOQUENTLY ARTICULATED BY COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY, THESE ARE MOTELS , BUT NOT GOING THROUGH THE INSPECTION AND THE LICENSING AND NOT PAYING THE TPT AND THE BBB TAX REVENUE THAT THE CITY COLLECTS FROM ALL LEGITIMATE HOTELS AND MOTELS IN TOWN.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO ON TOO LONG BECAUSE I THINK MOST OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY HAS BEEN STATED.
MY ONLY THING THAT I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AND EMPHASIZE IN THIS IS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT SB 1168 IS REALLY AN INDUSTRY BASED PIECE OF LEGISLATION, NOT NECESSARILY COMMUNITY BASED PIECE OF LEGISLATION, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US IF WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE LICENSURE PROCESS TO COMMUNICATE TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT, THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO, BECAUSE REALLY WHAT THIS SETS US UP TO BE DOING IS TO BE PERMITTING THE PROBLEM.
AND THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THE IDEA OF THE LICENSE.
I'M FULLY ON BOARD WITH THE COUNCIL DIRECTION TO PURSUE LICENSING, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO OUR COMMUNITY WHY WE'RE PURSUING THAT, THE REVENUE THAT IT GENERATES FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WE WILL CONTINUE WITH EFFORTS TO MITIGATE COMMUNITY CONCERNS, BUT NOT SO THAT IT COMES ACROSS AS NOW WE ARE ALLOWING MORE AND MORE OF THESE SHORT TERM RENTALS TO ENTER THE COMMUNITIES WHEN THAT'S REALLY THE COMMUNITY CONCERN.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.
COUNCILMEMBER ASLAN HAS A QUESTION.
YEAH. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE VERY CLEARLY STATED A VERY CRITICAL POINT YOU MADE THERE.
I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND MORE LOGISTICALLY.
SO WHEN WE START WHEN WE ENGAGE IN THIS PERMITTING PROCESS, DO POTENTIAL HOSTS GOING ONTO A PLATFORM LIKE VRBO OR AIRBNB, ARE THEY PROMPTED TO FILL OUT A PERMIT AND GET THAT DONE BEFORE THEIR LISTING GOES ONLINE? OR HOW DOES HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, I'D RATHER SEE IT BE A STOPGAP WHERE THEY CAN'T MOVE FORWARD UNTIL AFTER WE'VE CHECKED A BOX FOR THEM.
COUNCILMEMBER ASLAN SO CURRENTLY THE LAW SAYS BEFORE OFFERING TO RENT, NOT EVEN JUST RENTING, BEFORE OFFERING TO RENT YOU NEED TO REGISTER.
HOWEVER, THIS NEW STATE LAW SAYS THAT WE CAN'T CHARGE ANY PENALTY FOR THEM FAILING TO LICENSE UNTIL WE'VE GIVEN THEM AT LEAST 30 DAYS NOTICE, AND THEN THEY'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO LICENSE, BUT TECHNICALLY, I SUPPOSE IF THEY WEREN'T LICENSED AND THEY WENT AHEAD AND RENTED, WE COULD TRY TO GET AN INJUNCTION, BUT THE REALITY
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IS WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T SPEND OUR WHEELS DOING THAT.WELL, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON, BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THE PRIMARY BENEFIT OF GETTING THIS IS JUST THE WHOLE CONCEPT THAT THE HOST HAS TO JUMP THROUGH A HOOP.
OTHERWISE, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ON THE HONOR SYSTEM AND IT DOESN'T.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST CREATING RED TAPE AND REGULATIONS WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONCERN THAT COUNCILMEMBER HAS JUST BROUGHT UP OF THE PERCEPTION THAT WE'RE JUST WE'RE SUDDENLY IN THE BUSINESS OF GREEN LIGHTING THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT.
SO THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
JUST SOMETHING ELSE TO MULL OVER AND CONSIDER, IT WOULD BE REALLY NEAT IF THESE AGENCIES, THESE PROVIDERS WOULDN'T ALLOW THE PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD UNTIL THE CORRECT PAPERWORK WAS DOWNLOADED OR A SCREENSHOT WAS ACQUIRED.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI.
THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS TOPIC, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THESE SHORT TERM RENTALS IN TOWN ALREADY HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT, RIGHT? EVERYTHING THEY'RE DOING IS LEGAL, I BELIEVE, AND SO WE'RE JUST ADDING A FINER PROCESS TO THAT GREEN LIGHT THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE , BUT YEAH, I HEAR YOU COUNCILMEMBER AS THEY COME TO MY HOUSE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD, WHICH IS KIND OF GOING TO COUNCILMEMBER ASLAN'S POINT, WHICH IS NOT REALLY ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, SO I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A NOTE OF THIS AND HOPEFULLY PLANT A SEED FOR A FUTURE DISCUSSION, BUT SEDONA CITY COUNCIL APPROVED TO ALLOCATE $240,000 TO THE NEW RENT LOCAL PROGRAM IN HOPES SHORT TERM RENTAL OWNERS WILL INSTEAD LEASE THEIR UNITS TO OR PROPERTIES TO LOCAL WORKERS.
SO I THINK THAT'S A BUDGET CONVERSATION, BUT MAYBE EVEN A COUNCIL DISCUSSION BEFORE THE BUDGET CONVERSATION TO SEE IF THERE'S INTEREST IN DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR AND DIVING DEEPER INTO WHAT SEDONA IS DOING.
I JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
AS WE DO THE LICENSING SYSTEM, SINCE WE DO NOT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING ALL THE TAXES THAT WE EXPECTING FROM THIS IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN BACKTRACK AND MAKE A LICENSE DEPENDENT ON PAYING THEIR TAXES THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE WITH THEIR SHORT TERM RENTALS ALL ALONG.
MAYOR DEASY, COUNCILMEMBER SALAS, IT OCCURS TO ME THAT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF WE DO A CCR COUNCIL COMMUNICATION REPORT DISCUSSING TAXATION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS.
I'M NOT PREPARED TONIGHT TO REALLY GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION THAT YOU DESERVE, AND SO I'D LIKE TO EITHER PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION THROUGH OUR CITY MANAGER OR THROUGH A CCR SO WE CAN DISCUSS HOW SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE TAXED VERSUS HOTELS , IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU.
OF COURSE. YEAH. OKAY, AND THEN I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE SECOND PART? OH, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WITH THIS LICENSING SYSTEM, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO MAKE IT, FOR EXAMPLE, CONTINGENT ON THEM PAYING THEIR TAXES THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE AS SHORT TERM RENTALS ALL ALONG? WE WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION ON A PER TAXPAYER BASIS. THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE DOES ALL THE LOCAL TAX ADMINISTRATION AND COLLECTION.
SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY ABLE TO PINPOINT THAT.
HOWEVER, THEIR ADVERTISEMENTS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE TPT LICENSE NUMBER, AND CERTAINLY I'M NOT SURE IF JESSICA IS STILL ON THE LINE OR IF RICK TADDER WERE HERE, HE COULD HELP US A LITTLE BETTER TOO, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN COORDINATE OUR INFORMATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE. FOR INSTANCE, HERE'S OUR LIST OF WHAT WE HAVE DOING BUSINESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE CAN ASK DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE.
ARE THESE TPT LICENSE NUMBERS REMITTING TAXES? DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? GOTCHA, SO IT WOULD BE AFTER THE LICENSE, THOUGH.
WE CAN HAVE AN ACCOUNTABILITY MECHANISM.
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I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE IS A WAY TO RECOUP THE COSTS SINCE WE NOW ARE OR WOULD POTENTIALLY BE REQUIRING THESE LICENSES BUT THAT COULD BE I MEAN, WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION ON THIS QUITE A BIT AND WE HAVE CONSENSUS MOVING FORWARD.SO I WON'T BELABOR THAT JUST IF THERE IS A WAY OF DOING SO, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE THING FOR US TO TRACK DOWN AND DO. YEP.
THANK YOU. OKAY, I HEAR THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PREPARE A REPORT FOR COUNCIL ABOUT TAXATION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS VERSUS HOTELS, ETC., AND I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THE 2% BBB TAX IS NOT BEING CHARGED TO SHORT TERM RENTALS.
I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE COULD CHANGE THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THEY SHOULD BE PAYING IT, AND HONESTLY, I'M NOT ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
YOU SAID YOU'D RESEARCH IT AND WRITE US A REPORT AT A LATER DATE.
SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND SHORT-TERM RENTAL VS HOTEL TAXATION.
WHEN YOU DO THAT REPORT, I'M JUST ASKING THAT YOU ALSO INCLUDE A DISCUSSION ON HOW WE COULD GET THEM TO PAY THE FULL TAX, JUST LIKE AS IF THEY WERE A HOTEL, THE REGULAR TAX AND THE BBB, AND I MEAN, NOT TO GET INTO THE MINUTIA ON THIS, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE BBB TAXES, IT SPECIFIES WHAT THINGS GET TAXED THAT 2%, BUT NEXT TIME THAT'S UP OR SOMETHING, WE COULD CHANGE THAT.
YEAH, I DO. I CAN TELL YOU THAT OUR EXTRA 2% BBB IS IN THE HOTEL AND THE RESTAURANT CLASSIFICATIONS.
THE CITY'S NEVER ADOPTED AN OPTION UNDER THE MODEL CITY TAX CODE CALLED THE TRANSIENT LODGING PROVISION OF THE CODE. THE HOTELS IS SECTION 445 OF THE MODEL CITY TAX CODE.
TRANSIENT LODGING IS 447, AND WE I THINK SHORT TERM RENTALS PROBABLY FALL WITHIN TRANSIENT LODGING, BUT I REALLY DO WANT TO SPEND THE TIME TO DO A PROPER REPORT TO YOU AND ALSO EXPLAIN, FOR INSTANCE, THE NUANCES LIKE OUR ONLINE TRAVEL COMPANIES THAT LIKE EXPEDIA AND SO FORTH THEY PAY UNDER THE HOTEL CLASSIFICATION.
THEY HAVE TO PAY TAX ON THEIR COMMISSION, WHATEVER IT IS, 30%.
THEY DON'T PAY TAX UNDER -447.
SO IF YOU MOVE THE 2% OUT OF THE HOTEL AND INTO THE 447, YOU MIGHT LOSE THE ONLINE LODGING OPERATOR TAX REVENUE, AND THIS IS GETTING WAY BEYOND THE SCOPE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DELVE INTO IT AND JUST GIVE YOU THE CORRECT INFORMATION.
THANK YOU, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, HEIDI HANSEN, PLEASE. MAYOR.
HEIDI HANSEN, INTERIM DEPUTY MANAGER.
I JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT THAT WE WILL BE GOING BACK TO THE VOTERS AND HOPEFULLY 2024 ON THE BBB TO EXTEND IT BECAUSE IT EXPIRES IN 2028, AND IF AFTER [INAUDIBLE] SOME RESEARCH AND IF WE FIND THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE THE SHORT TERM RENTALS, THAT'S PROBABLY A REALLY GREAT PLACE TO DO THAT.
JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN, INFORMATIONAL UPDATE ON BIG SHIFT CONCEPTS.
[10. Informational update on Big Shift concepts An informational update and direction.]
TAKE US AWAY, NICOLE.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR.
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THROUGH THE FAIR PROCESS, WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION REGARDING THE CITY'S ENGINEERING STANDARDS AS IT RELATES TO SPEED LIMITS AND DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS OF ROADWAYS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE VISION ZERO APPROACH AND ADJUSTING VALUES PRIORITIES TO SERVE PEDESTRIANS FIRST CYCLISTS SECOND PUBLIC TRANSIT FOLLOWED BY CAR SHARE, TAXI, AND THEN LASTLY, PRIVATE PERSONAL VEHICLES.WE WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH AN UPDATE ON THE BIG SHIFT, BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT COULD BE TOOLS THAT FLAGSTAFF USES TO USHER IN THE BIG SHIFT.
I DO WANT TO PRESS PAUSE FOR A SECOND AND LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE ADDED ONE SLIDE TO THE SLIDE DECK SO YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT IN YOUR COUNCIL PACKET AND THAT WILL BE SLIDE NUMBER 38. SO IT WILL BE LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.
OUR PRESENTATION IS BROKEN DOWN INTO THREE SECTIONS.
THE THIRD SECTION WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN MOTION FOR THE BIG SHIFT .
COUNCIL, THE PRESENTATION IS DENSE WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION.
OUR INTENT IS TO PROVIDE ENOUGH INFORMATION, BUT NOT TO OVERWHELM YOU WITH CONCEPTS AND PRINCIPLES BECAUSE WE WILL BE SEEKING DIRECTION FROM YOU AT THE END OF SECTIONS ONE AND TWO, STAFF WILL PAUSE TO DISCUSS AND SEEK DIRECTION.
THE BIGGEST SHIFT IS CRITICAL TO ACHIEVING OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS, SUPPORTING THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, WHICH WILL BE BEFORE YOU NEXT WEEK , AND NUMEROUS COMMITMENTS TO BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT.
THE BIG SHIFT IS NOT ONE ACTION.
IT IS NOT ONE POLICY AND IT IS NOT ONE PROGRAM.
WHAT IT IS, IS A CONSTANT, CONSTANTLY EVOLVING FRAMEWORK WHICH REQUIRES BOLD ACTION, BOLD DECISIONS, ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT, ACTIVE LISTENING, FUNDING AND STAFFING.
I INVITE YOU TO CONSIDER THE CONCEPTS DISCUSSED THIS EVENING AS INGREDIENTS TO THE BIG SHIFT RECIPE, AND WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAND THE PRESENTATION OVER TO JEFF BAUMAN.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.
JEFF BAUMAN, CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND INTERIM CITY ENGINEER.
I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH MY VOICE A BIT.
I DON'T HAVE COVID. I CHECKED BUT STRUGGLING WITH MY VOICE A BIT.
SO THIS IS MY GIFT WHEN I GOT TO THE PODIUM, SOME CLOROX WIPES.
SO SEE IF WE MAKE IT THROUGH TONIGHT.
I'VE GOT COUGH DROPS IN MY POCKET AND CLOROX WIPES HERE.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS A BRAND NEW ITEM, THE ANNUAL CRASH REPORT WE CREATED.
IT'S ABOUT A 20 PAGE DOCUMENT.
SO BASICALLY IT'S FIVE YEARS OF CRASH DATA SO WE CAN SEE TRENDS.
SO I THINK WE HIGHLIGHTED FLASHING YELLOW ARROWS.
I THINK WE AND THEN WE HIGHLIGHTED SOME LEFT TURN PHASING CHANGES WE DID OUT AT MARKETPLACE AND 89, AND THEN WE ALSO IDENTIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO WORK ON OVER THE NEXT YEAR IN THAT CRASH REPORT.
ALSO, THE REGIONAL STRATEGIC TRANSPORTATION SAFETY PLAN IS A PLAN THAT'S UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS.
MY NOTES SAY THAT 2018 WAS THE LAST TIME WE COMPLETED THAT.
THAT'S A METRO PLAN AFTER LAST TIME THEY DID IT WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER MPO.
THERE WAS A COUPLE OF MPOS AND COGS THAT DID THIS TOGETHER, AND ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT OR THAT PLAN FOR US WAS IDENTIFYING THESE REGIONAL PROBLEM AREAS AND IDENTIFYING PROJECTS THAT MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR CERTAIN GRANT PROGRAMS LIKE HSIP.
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SOMETHING WE RECENTLY CONTRIBUTED TO WAS JUST COMPLETED LAST CALENDAR YEAR, THE ADOT STATE HIGHWAY RAIL GRADE CROSSING ACTION PLAN.SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT WAS STATEWIDE, BUT SOME HIGHLIGHTS FOR US WERE AT IDENTIFIED THE COTTAGE AVENUE SPUR CROSSING AS AN ACTIVE CROSSING WHEN IT ACTUALLY WASN'T, AND WE WERE ABLE TO INITIATE ACTION WITH ARIZONA CORPORATION COMMISSION TO GET THAT CLOSED.
THAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING TOMORROW.
HOPEFULLY IT'S ON THEIR CONSENT AGENDA.
SO WE'RE HOPEFUL. IT ALSO IDENTIFIED SOME PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUES WE HAD AT OUR SAN FRANCISCO AND BEAVER CROSSINGS, AND WE'VE INCORPORATED SOME PEDESTRIAN GATES AND SOME OTHER STRATEGIES IN THAT DOWNTOWN MILE GRANT APPLICATION.
SO JUST LITTLE TIDBITS SOMETIMES COME OUT OF THESE PLANS THAT CAN BE HELPFUL FOR US.
OPERATION LIFESAVER MANY OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD OF OPERATION LIFESAVER.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE TRAINERS.
THE PROGRAM HAS GONE PRETTY QUIET WITH COVID, BUT I SUSPECT IT'LL START COMING BACK, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THERE'S SOME CITY EMPLOYEES, THEY'RE BOTH IN TRANSPORTATION AND THEY CAN GO OUT. YOU GET THE LITTLE YELLOW KEYCHAINS AND YOU GO TO SCHOOLS AND TALK TO KIDS ABOUT CROSSING SAFETY.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO BUT HASN'T BEEN REAL ACTIVE WITH COVID.
SORRY, I GOT TO TOUCH THE MOUSE.
SAFE STREETS FOR ALL, GRANT SS4A, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S ALSO A METRO PLAN INITIATIVE.
SO WE'RE HOPEFUL A NEW PROGRAM, YOU NEVER KNOW HOW THOSE GRANTS WILL GO, AND THE NEXT TWO ARE THE CRASH MODIFICATION FACTOR, CMF AND THE HIGHWAY SAFETY MANUAL AND THOSE WORK TOGETHER.
SO CRASH MODIFICATION FACTORS ARE GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
IF WE HAVE A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION AND WE'RE SEEING 100 CRASHES A YEAR, THAT'S NOT A REAL NUMBER AT ALL, BUT WE'RE SEEING 100 CRASHES A YEAR, AND THE CRASH MODIFICATION FACTOR FOR CONVERTING THAT TO A ROUNDABOUT MIGHT BE LIKE A 0.7.
SO IT WOULD BE YOU'D SEE 70% LESS CRASHES.
THEY HAVE ONE STAR, TWO STAR, FOUR STAR.
IT HELPS US IDENTIFY MITIGATION.
HIGHWAY SAFETY MANUAL WORKS WITH THAT.
YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THESE PROJECTS.
WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL OVER THE YEARS.
IT'S BEEN A PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE A WHILE.
ADOT ADMINISTERS IT SO WHEN THEY HAVE A CALL FOR PROJECTS WE APPLY IT IS FEDERAL MONEY.
YOU'LL RECOGNIZE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ROUNDABOUTS HAVE REALLY GOOD CRASH MODIFICATION FACTORS SO THEY TEND TO HAVE REALLY GOOD BENEFIT TO COST RATIOS, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS ALL ABOUT.
THAT'S THE BENEFIT COST RATIO.
SO FOURTH/CEDAR/LOCKETT, TURQUOISE AND SWITZER CANYON ROUNDABOUTS ASSIGNED REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, WE DID THAT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, SO WE REPLACED EVERY SIGN IN THE CITY TO UPGRADE THEM TO BETTER RETRO REFLECTIVITY TO MEET NEW FEDERAL STANDARDS, COUNT DOWN PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS WERE PART OF THE PROGRAM.
SO THAT WAS THERMOPLASTIC AND EPOXY.
SO THOSE HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD, REALLY GOOD PROGRAMS FOR US.
HERE'S JUST A BRIEF QUICK PICTURE, AND THESE THESE GRAPHS OR TABLES CAME OUT OF THE ANNUAL CRASH REPORT, AND THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF HOW MANY SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES ON THE RIGHT AND HOW MANY FATAL CRASHES ON THE LEFT THAT WE ARE.
THIS IS OUR RECORD IN FLAGSTAFF.
SO THIS INCLUDES THE ADOT ROUTES, THE CITY ROUTES.
YOU CAN SEE WE BROKE OUT INTERSTATE FROM SURFACE STREETS, BUT THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TYPICALLY TRYING TO ADDRESS WITH THESE SAFETY PROGRAMS IS THOSE FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES.
THERE ARE CERTAINLY OTHER CRASH TYPES.
THE SMALLER POSSIBLE INJURY, NO INJURIES, PROPERTY DAMAGE-ONLYS.
ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND THE KIND OF THE TREND.
THIS IS ALSO COMING OUT OF THE ANNUAL CRASH REPORT.
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SO THESE ARE FATALITIES OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, AND THIS IS VULNERABLE ROAD USERS REPRESENT ABOUT 43%. SO BIKES ARE 8% AND PEDESTRIANS ARE 35, AND THEN THE TWO MIDDLE CATEGORIES ARE VEHICLES.SO TWO OR MORE VEHICLES OR VEHICLES COLLIDING WITH EACH OTHER.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE KNOW.
SO HERE'S THREE ROAD TO ZERO VISION ZERO AND TOWARDS ZERO DEATHS, AND I'LL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL ON EACH OF THEM, BUT ROAD TO ZERO IS BASICALLY A 2018 REPORT AND HAS A BUNCH OF STRATEGIES AND YOU PICK STRATEGIES AND YOU DEVELOP YOUR SAFETY PLAN FOR YOUR COMMUNITY BASED ON THOSE STRATEGIES THAT THEY'VE ESTABLISHED TOWARDS ZERO DEATH DEATHS IS VERY SIMILAR.
IT'S A 2014 REPORT AND IT'S KIND OF THE SAME IDEA.
SO THAT'S THE THREE THAT WE HAVE KIND OF TAKEN A LOOK AT.
FIRST ONE AGAIN, ROAD TO ZERO THREE MAIN INITIATIVES, DOUBLE DOWN ON WHAT WORKS, ADVANCED LIFE SAVING TECHNOLOGIES IN THE VEHICLES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND PRIORITIZE SAFETY BY ADOPTING A SAFE SYSTEMS APPROACH.
SO THEIR FIRST THING IS SAFER PEOPLE.
THEY WANT EDUCATED AND RESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR OF THE PEOPLE.
SO THAT'S FOR PEDESTRIANS AND DRIVERS AND CYCLISTS.
SAFER ROADS, WHICH IS ABOUT ROADWAY DESIGN AND MITIGATING HUMAN MISTAKES.
SO YOU'RE MITIGATING SPEEDS OR MANAGING SPEEDS APPROPRIATE TO THE CONTEXT OF THE ROAD.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER AND THEN POST CRASH CARE.
SO IT'S A FAIRLY COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH.
OBVIOUSLY INVOLVES A LOT MORE THAN JUST THE ENGINEERING DIVISION OR THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
SO THAT'S THE ROAD TO ZERO, AND AGAIN, IT'S A COALITION.
IT'S FREE TO JOIN, AND THEY ALSO LOOK AT SELF-DRIVING CARS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO THEY'RE VERY COMPREHENSIVE.
HERE'S WHAT THE BRANDING LOOKS LIKE.
AGAIN, IT'S A COALITION NONPROFIT AND IT'S MANAGED BY THE NATIONAL SAFETY COUNCIL.
HERE'S THE VISION ZERO NETWORK, WHICH SEEMS TO BE FAIRLY POPULAR.
SO YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH A FAIRLY COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS TO CREATE YOUR ACTION PLAN, AND HERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN SAMPLE ACTION PLANS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN TO MANAGE SPEEDS AGAIN, APPROPRIATE FOR THE FACILITY TYPES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
SO. YOU NEED TO ENGAGE MANY DEPARTMENTS PUBLIC HEALTH, TRANSPORTATION, POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN HAS TO HAVE CLEAR OBJECTIVES AND A SCHEDULE TO ACHIEVE THOSE OBJECTIVES.
YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE THE MAYOR PUBLICLY COMMITTED.
SO THAT MAY BE A RESOLUTION PROBABLY, AND A CLEAR GOAL.
THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT, CLEAR GOAL OF ELIMINATING TRAFFIC FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES.
SO TWO ZERO IS THE VISION ZERO.
AGAIN, IT'S A NONPROFIT, COLLABORATIVE CAMPAIGN.
THIS ONE IS A NATIONAL STRATEGY RECOGNIZED BY AASHTO, AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THERE'S SIX KEY EMPHASIS AREAS, VERY SIMILAR TO THE ROAD TO ZERO APPROACH COMPREHENSIVE AND INCLUDES VEHICLES, INFRASTRUCTURE, DRIVERS, [INAUDIBLE] USERS, EMERGENCY SERVICES.
HERE'S AN EXAMPLE WE LOVE TO LOOK AND YOU'LL FIND THAT WE LOVE TO LOOK AT BOULDER AND PORTLAND.
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THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY OUR PEERS.THEY DO LOTS OF GOOD THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO EMULATE.
SO WE LOOKED AT THE CITY OF BOULDER HERE AND IN 2014 THEY ADOPTED VISION ZERO GOALS.
THEY WANTED TO PROACTIVELY APPLY FOR HSIP FUNDING.
THEY WANTED TO MONITOR CRASHES ACROSS THE CITY TO IDENTIFY IMPROVEMENT AREAS, WHICH KIND OF IS WHAT WE'VE STARTED TO DO WITH OUR ANNUAL CRASH REPORT, AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS STATED GOAL OF ELIMINATING ALL TRAFFIC FATALITIES.
FIVE YEARS LATER, THEY CREATED THEIR ACTION PLAN.
SO THAT WAS IN 2019 AND THAT'S WHEN THEY BECAME A VISION ZERO CITY.
SO THEY PROBABLY DID THE RESOLUTION BY THE MAYOR OR THE COUNCIL, AND HERE'S A COUPLE OF STRATEGIES THAT WE PICKED UP OUT OF THEIR PLAN THAT WE THOUGHT WERE JUST JUST WOULD BE INTERESTING. SO THEY EXPANDED THEIR RED LIGHT CAMERA PROGRAM.
SO THEY DO A LOT OF RED LIGHT CAMERA RUNNING THERE.
THIS CAN BE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND THEN LEADING PEDESTRIAN INTERVALS.
SO THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF THEIR ACTION PLAN STRATEGIES.
THERE ARE ACTUALLY QUITE A NUMBER IN THEIR PLAN, BUT THOSE ARE A COUPLE WE HIGHLIGHTED, AND IN KEEPING WITH WHAT CITY OF BOULDER HAS BEEN DOING, WE CALLED AND TALK TO THEM A BIT AND SENT SOME EMAILS AND THEY SAID ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY IS DEVOTED TO THEIR VISION ZERO PROJECTS.
SO THIS COULD BE GOING OUT TO A SIGNAL THAT LEADING PEDESTRIAN INTERVAL, FOR AN EXAMPLE, COULD BE GOING OUT TO A SIGNAL, AND RETROFITTING AN EXISTING SIGNAL COULD BE A NUMBER OF THINGS, BUT THEY SPEND ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT REALLY THREW US OFF.
THESE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE KIND OF BLEW US AWAY.
WE DO HAVE A VACANT POSITION, SO WE'RE LIKE TO COMPARE TO THEIR TEN.
THERE ARE SOME REASONS WHY THEY'RE ABLE TO DO SO MANY COOL THINGS AND HAVE A GREAT WEBSITE.
YOU CAN SEE THE REST OF THESE.
SO THAT WAS PRETTY INTERESTING.
SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY ACTIVE RECENTLY AS PART OF THEIR KEY CORRIDORS MASTERPLAN.
SO THAT PLAN LIKE TOOK, I DON'T KNOW, BELL ROAD AND LOOKED AT ALL THE CRASHES DOWN BELL ROAD AND THEN CAME UP WITH STRATEGIES FOR INDIVIDUAL INTERSECTIONS AND THE CORRIDOR ITSELF. SO A VERY, VERY DETAILED PLAN AS PART OF THIS CORRIDORS MASTER PLAN, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HERE THEY APPROVED VISION ZERO GOALS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, AND THEY'RE HOPING TO GET THEIR ACTION PLAN DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR AND THEN THEY WILL APPLY OR CALL THEMSELVES.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF YOU APPLY OR YOU JUST CALL YOURSELF A VISION ZERO CITY, BUT THAT'S THEIR GOAL, IS TO GET TO VISION ZERO SOMETIME IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS OR EARLY NEXT CALENDAR YEAR. SO, THOSE ARE KIND OF THE THREE TYPES OF SAFETY INITIATIVES OR THREE EXAMPLES OF SAFETY INITIATIVES AND KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING, AND THE QUESTION WITH THE FAIR ITEM, THE QUESTION TONIGHT IS DID YOU SEE ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN US SPENDING SOME MORE TIME ON THIS ITEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT A REASONABLE TIMELINE WOULD BE TO CREATE A SAFETY ACTION PLAN? IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO TAKE STAFFING AND RESOURCES CONSULTANTS.
I DON'T QUITE KNOW HOW THESE OTHER CITIES HAVE PUT THESE TOGETHER, BUT I SUSPECT IT'S A CONSULTANT EFFORT AND THERE'S SOME STAFFING SUPPORT AND THINGS LIKE VISION ZERO ARE KIND OF FOREVER. IT'S A PROGRAM, YOU'RE CREATING A NEW SAFETY PROGRAM.
THEY NEED TO BE SUPPORTED CONTINUOUSLY.
SO POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES IS SOMETHING WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT.
THERE COULD BE A GRANT OUT THERE.
SO, I WANTED TO PAUSE HERE ON THE SAFETY TOPIC BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT.
I DON'T THINK SHIMONI WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS AT ALL.
SO WE'LL GO TO THE REST OF COUNCIL.
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IF YOU'D LIKE TO [INAUDIBLE] [CHUCKLING].NO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JEFF, AND THANK YOU.
NICOLE AND JENNY AND MARTIN AND MARTIN'S NINE OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT WORK WITH HIM.
RIGHT. MARTIN, WE NEED TO BUILD YOUR TEAM.
OH, MY GOSH. TEN FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AT BOULDER, AND YOU'RE A TEAM OF ONE AND YOU'RE NOT KICKING AND SCREAMING EVERY DAY FOR SUPPORT? WE'LL GET THERE, RIGHT, BUT JEFF, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION THUS FAR.
I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO TALK ABOUT.
I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO EXPLORE THE OTHER OPTIONS WITH SAFETY.
I THINK VISION ZERO, COUNCIL, IS OUR BEST APPROACH.
YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY LEAD WITH THE VISION ZERO, KIND OF LIKE ON THEIR ARM BADGE, QUITE FRANKLY.
THEY'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT BEING A VISION ZERO COMMUNITY, BUT IT IS A BIG COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY.
LIKE, AS YOU CAN TELL, THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE BUDGET.
SO I THINK IT'S REALLY HELPING US GET TO OUR CLIMATE GOALS WHILE ALSO DOING EMBARKING ON A NEW PATH THAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO BE PROUD OF AS A COMMUNITY. SO I WOULD ADVISE OR HOPE THAT TO RECOMMEND THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER GOING DOWN THE PATH OF VISION ZERO AND LOOKING INTO SOME OF THOSE COSTS TO BE DISCUSSED MAYBE AT THIS UPCOMING BUDGET CYCLE AND BEGIN THAT JOURNEY AS A COMMUNITY.
I'M BEYOND EXCITED AND I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT MY COLLEAGUES THINK.
THANK YOU. MAYOR, I'M SO SORRY.
ONE LAST QUICK QUESTION FOR JEFF.
JEFF, WITH FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING SUPPORT, I'M LEARNING RECENTLY THAT YOU NEED TO BE A VISION ZERO COMMUNITY TO RECEIVE SOME OF THE GRANT FUNDING AROUND SAFETY.
DO YOU KNOW IF THAT GRANT FUNDING IS ALSO AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE THOSE OTHER TWO ZERO SAFETY--WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? CERTIFICATIONS.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, AND YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT I THINK AT THE RETREAT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO UNCOVER ANY INFORMATION THAT SAYS YOU NEED TO BE A VISION ZERO CITY TO APPLY FOR GRANTS OR TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR GRANTS.
IF YOU HAVE LINKS OR [INAUDIBLE] SEND IT.
WHO'S HERE? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I HAD A RECENT TALK WITH DAVE WESSEL, AND HE DID CONFIRM THAT MY COMMENT WAS ACCURATE FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE WILL LOOK FURTHER INTO IT AND FIND OUT, BUT I THINK THAT ALSO PLAYS INTO THIS DECISION COUNCIL.
COUNCILMEMBER SHIMONI. COUNCILMEMBER SALAS.
MAY I OFFER A COMMENT? BASED ON MY KIND OF JUST INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE IIJA AND MANY MEETINGS I'VE ATTENDED BETWEEN COUNCIL AND METRO PLAN. [INAUDIBLE] THERE ARE FOUR KIND OF INTERWOVEN PRINCIPLES OF THE IIJA OR BIL OR THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND JOBS ACT.
IT'S NUMBER ONE IS SAFETY, AND THEN NUMBER TWO IS MODERNIZATION.
NUMBER THREE IS CLIMATE, AND NUMBER THREE IS EQUITY.
WHEN IT COMES TO I REMEMBER HAVING THIS DISCUSSION WITH METRO PLAN BOARD WAY BACK WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO SORT THROUGH ALL THE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND THE SAFETY WHICH IS THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL GRANT PROGRAM, AND I BELIEVE METRO PLAN HAS SUBMITTED [INAUDIBLE] FOR IT.
WE HAD DISCUSSED ABOUT HAVING ONE OF THE CRITERIA IS ABOUT HAVING AN UPDATED REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY PLAN, AND ALSO I MEAN AND A RESILIENT, RESILIENT RESILIENCY PLAN MAY ALSO BE HELPFUL ON OTHER GRANTS, BUT IT HAS BEEN
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DISCUSSED, AND WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, THE SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL GRANTS WILL FUND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SAFETY ACTION PLANS AND PROJECT THAT PROMOTES SAFETY, REDUCE TRAFFIC FATALITIES AND SUPPORT VISION ZERO INITIATIVES.IN FACT, THE LAW ACTUALLY SPELL OUT VISION ZERO INITIATIVES.
SO MY QUESTION IS, I AM INTERESTED IN PUTTING TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ACTION PLAN, BUT ADDING A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE COMPARING OUR CITY TO BOULDER AND PORTLAND EVEN PHOENIX WAS MENTIONED BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND THAT FLAGSTAFF IS WHERE TWO INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS, MAJOR HIGHWAYS CONVERGE.
SO HAVE A KIND OF MORE BROADER REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO THE REGIONAL SAFETY, TRANSPORTATION SAFETY PLANNING, AND I RECALL IN THE MEETING OF THE METRO PLAN, NACOG WAS LEADING THAT EFFORT FOR THE REGIONAL SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SALAS.
YEAH, I'M DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN PURSUING THIS, AND JUST AS YOU WERE TALKING, I WAS TAKING A MOMENT TO LOOK THROUGH BOULDER'S WEBSITE ON THEIR VISION ZERO AND SEEING THE GRANTS AND PROGRAMS AND PLANS THAT THEY'VE PUT INTO PLACE.
IT'S VERY EXTENSIVE, AND THEY LIST AT THE END OF THEIR VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN, ALL OF THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN IT, AND SO IT'S CLEARLY IT TAKES A LOT OF PARTNERSHIP NOT ONLY WITHIN THE CITY, BUT I THINK WHAT'S REALLY EXCITING TO ME IS THEIR DEVELOPMENT OF A VISION ZERO COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP THAT INCLUDED AND IT JUST LISTS OUT COMMUNITY CYCLISTS FOR COMMUNITY SHARED PATHS BOULDER, BOULDER WALKS, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT KIND OF COMMUNITY FOCUSED GROUPS THAT I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS ADVANCE IS SO MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS A COMMUNITY AND VERY MUCH INSPIRES THAT LEVEL OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT, JUST ENGAGEMENT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF ALL OF THIS IN THE EDUCATION THAT IT BRINGS TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN THIS.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.
HEY, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THIS AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I AM ALSO VERY INTERESTED AND I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS CONVERSATION, SO IT'S EXCITING. THANK YOU.
I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN, I THINK THIS MAY REQUIRE SOME MORE CITY FUNDING.
AND THEN WHAT I'VE LEARNED TO WORKING WITH METRO PLAN AND WITH MOUNTAIN LINE IS THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY OUT THERE THAT WE CAN BRING IN TO PUSH FORWARD OUR GOALS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK OF SEVERAL PEOPLE GETTING KILLED OUT ON OUR STREETS AND PEOPLE GETTING INJURED, IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN REDUCE THAT, I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT.
WELL, I'M ABSOLUTELY SUPPORTIVE.
THE TWO OF THE MAJOR FUNCTIONS OF ANY CITY GOVERNMENT IS PUBLIC SAFETY AND ROADS.
SO THIS FITS INTO THE VERY ESSENCE OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS A CITY GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT PEOPLE AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR ROADS ARE SAFE AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE WHO ARE CROSSING OR DRIVING OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
SO, YES, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT, BUT ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO THEM DUCATS.
SO WHEREVER WE CAN FIND OUTSIDE MONEY TO HELP WITH THE DESIGNS, I KNOW OUR TEAM WILL BE ABLE TO BE ON THAT AND WE CAN START ASSESSING THIS MORE THOROUGHLY AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE EMPLOYEE WISE AS WE GO INTO THIS BUDGET CYCLE.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI. QUICK FOLLOW UP.
TWO THINGS BOULDER COULD USE, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOULDER.
FOR ONE THERE AT 108,000 PEOPLE, SO NOT SO MUCH BIGGER THAN US, BUT DEFINITELY A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.
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THEY ADOPTED THEIR VISION ZERO PLAN OR THEY STARTED THEIR VISION ZERO JOURNEY IN 2014.ARE WE GOING TO BE AT 108 IN EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW? POSSIBLY. RIGHT.
SO WE'RE KIND OF RIGHT ON TRACK IF WE'RE KIND OF COMPARING OURSELVES TO BOULDER.
AND THEN SECONDLY, I DID HEAR SOME OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS TALK ABOUT VISION ZERO SPECIFICALLY.
BUT JEFF, DO YOU NEED US TO GO AROUND AND DO A THUMBS UP FOR VISION ZERO SPECIFICALLY, OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE DIRECTION TO PURSUE THAT? I THINK WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO EXPLORE VISION ZERO AS THE PRIMARY.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
READY FOR NUMBER TWO? NUMBER TWO.
SO THIS IS ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARDS AND NOT ACTUALLY ALL OF THESE APPLY AS ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARDS, BUT WE'LL GO WITH THAT HEADING BECAUSE IT'S A NICE WAY TO PUT THIS THROUGH. SO THIS IS THE OUTLINE.
THE REQUEST WAS TO TALK ABOUT LEVEL OF SERVICE AND LEVEL OF SERVICE EXCEPTION AREAS, VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED AND THESE KIND OF WORKED THEMSELVES INTO THE TIA PROCESS OR THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS PROCESS.
SO THIS IS THE DESIGN SPEED OF OUR ROADWAYS COMING OUT OF THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS.
AND I'LL GO THROUGH ALL THESE IN DETAIL, OF COURSE.
AND THEN MODE PRIORITIZATION, WHICH IS ACTUALLY HOUSED CURRENTLY IN THE REGIONAL PLAN.
AND I'LL SHARE A COUPLE OF SLIDES FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
LEVEL OF SERVICE. SO IT'S A PERFORMANCE MEASURE.
SO THERE ARE LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS FOR ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT FACILITY TYPES.
AND WE OF COURSE KNOW A IS GOOD OR THE BEST OR MAYBE IT'S NOT GOOD.
I DON'T KNOW. AND F IS THE WORST.
HERE'S WHAT THE TABLE LOOKS LIKE FOR SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS.
SO THAT'S ONE SPECIFIC THING AND A THROUGH F AND OUR AVERAGE CONTROL DELAYS.
SO THAT'S ON AVERAGE HOW MANY SECONDS OF DELAY PER VEHICLE.
SO LESS THAN TEN IS A AND IT'S GENERALLY DESCRIBED AS FREE FLOW CONDITIONS.
SO D, C, B OR A IN OUR SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION AND IN ALL OF THE STANDARDS.
BUT HERE'S MY KIND OF CHEAP SLIDE WITH JUST WORDS.
I DON'T HAVE THE COOL GRAPHICS THAT HE HAS, BUT VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED ARE SIMPLY HOW FAR A VEHICLE TRAVELS, RIGHT? IT'S ONE VEHICLE DRIVES FIVE MILES.
THIS IS MAYBE JUMPING AHEAD A LITTLE BIT, BUT ALTERNATIVE MITIGATION STRATEGIES.
THEY HAVE ZONES WHERE THEY SAY, WE DON'T WANT 100, WE WANT 80.
WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO GO AS BIG AS IT WOULD TYPICALLY BE.
AND SO HOW WOULD YOU MITIGATE FROM 180? AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT DO.
YOU MIGHT REQUIRE ENHANCED TRANSIT.
YOU MIGHT REQUIRE THE DEVELOPMENT TO CHARGE FOR PARKING, EXPANDED CAR SHARE.
THERE COULD BE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
SOME OF THOSE FALL INTO THESE KINDS OF STRATEGIES WHERE THEY COULD BE MORE INFRASTRUCTURE BASED AND SOME COULD FALL INTO THE TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT TEAM STRATEGIES.
SO HERE'S THE GRAPHIC THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE.
WE SHOWED THIS BACK IN JANUARY.
I THINK SETH PRESENTED THIS SLIDE.
THESE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES OR STRATEGIES TO HELP REDUCE VMT WHEN YOU'RE, JUST TO REDUCE VMT. SO YOU CAN SEE THE FOUR ON THE LEFT ARE KIND OF ALL LAND USE TYPE THINGS.
THINK LIKE A SUBWAY RUNNING THROUGH A BUILDING.
IT COULD BE DONE WITH BUSSES, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S A REAL HIGH LEVEL TRANSIT.
PRICED PARKING STREET CONNECTIVITY.
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THESE ARE THE MAXIMUM LEVELS.SORRY, JENNY, I HAD TO POINT THAT ONE OUT.
WE WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN SOMEDAY.
THEN, OF COURSE, THERE'S A WHOLE SPECTRUM OF THINGS THAT THAT CAN HELP REDUCE VMT.
THIS IS A REALLY SIMPLIFIED GRAPHIC THAT WE FOUND AS WE WERE PUTTING THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER TO KIND OF DESCRIBE THIS VMT MITIGATION OR IF YOU'RE ROLLING VMT INTO YOUR MITIGATION STRATEGY.
SO THE TOP ONE IS YOUR TYPICAL APPROACH.
SO YOU HAVE THE ROAD ON THE LEFT THAT'S WORKING, ITS FREE FLOW CONDITIONS.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU BUILD SOMETHING AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MITIGATION FOR THE ROAD.
YOU CAN SEE THE ROAD GETS VERY FULL.
BUT THIS IS REALLY SIMPLIFIED.
WE'RE GOING TO ADD SOME LANES AND THEN OUT IN THE FUTURE, THOSE LANES WILL FILL UP.
EVENTUALLY THERE'LL BE MORE DEVELOPMENT OCCUR.
THERE JUST BE MORE, THERE'LL BE MORE CARS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE ROAD WILL FILL UP AGAIN.
THERE'S NO MITIGATION INITIALLY.
AND THEN YOUR MITIGATION IN THIS CASE IS YOU'RE ADDING BUSSES TO THE NETWORK.
SO THE IDEA IS YOU WOULDN'T EXPAND THE ROAD.
YOU JUST ADD A LOT OF BUSSES TO PICK UP ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE TRIPS THAT NEED TO OCCUR.
OF COURSE, IN A WELL ROUNDED PROGRAM, YOU DO LOTS OF THINGS.
YOU WOULDN'T JUST DO THE BUSSES, BUT THIS IS THIS SIMPLIFIED EXAMPLE.
AND THEN IN FUTURE CONDITIONS, YOU STILL WOULDN'T WIDEN THE ROAD.
SO THAT IS ONE OF THE VMT TYPE STRATEGIES.
THAT'S A POTENTIAL HERE, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ASKING IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN EXPLORING.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THESE TWO COMBINED, BUT OFTEN I THINK THEY ARE GETTING COMBINED.
SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE FROM SCOTTSDALE.
SO THEY CREATED THIS AS PART OF THEIR TRANSPORTATION ACTION PLAN IN 2022.
SO IT'S HOT OFF THE PRESS AND BASICALLY MOST ALL OF THE CITY IS LEVEL SERVICE D LIKE WE ARE HERE.
IT'S THIS DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY ROOM FOR IT.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT FOR CHARACTER REASONS.
THERE COULD BE A BUNCH OF REASONS.
SOME OF THEM ARE ARE LISTED HERE.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE, WELL YOU WILL HAVE MORE CONGESTION.
AND YOU MAY HAVE SOME DIVERSION.
SO YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL WITH THIS.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO GO, YEAH, LET'S MAKE THAT ONE AND THAT ONE.
SO THEY DESIGNATED ACTIVITY CORES AND URBAN ROADWAYS.
SO THEY HAVE A MAP WITH THESE CERTAIN AREAS.
SO INTERESTING, SOMEONE IN ARIZONA HAS DONE THIS.
TYPICALLY, THIS HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED IN THE PAST WITH REALLY LARGE CITIES, BOSTON, NEW YORK, KIND OF PLACES DOWNTOWN WHERE YOU'RE PROVIDING LOTS OF SIDEWALKS, COULD BE PROVIDING BIKING OPPORTUNITIES.
BUT THE SUBWAY SYSTEM AND THINGS LIKE THAT PROVIDES THAT ALTERNATIVE MODE THAT'S VERY VIABLE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF [INAUDIBLE] LOS.
I'LL KEEP GOING AND AND WE'LL HAVE A PAUSE, BUT NOT YET, IF THAT'S OKAY.
SO, THERE'S KIND OF FOUR WAYS TO THINK ABOUT SPEED.
AND ONE, OPERATING SPEED IS WHAT THE VEHICLES ARE DOING ON THE STREET.
DESIGN SPEED IS WHAT YOU HAVE DESIGNED THE FACILITY TO HANDLE.
SO WE WANT ALL OF THEM TO BE THE SAME.
USUALLY IT'S TEN. SO THEY PROBABLY BUILT IT AT 80 OR 85, AND NOW IT'S POSTED AT 75.
AND THAT WAS KIND OF A FACTOR OF SAFETY.
AND THAT'S HOW RURAL HIGHWAY DESIGN WORKS.
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THAT'S HOW THE ENGINEERING ANALYSIS IS DONE PER STATE LAWS.SO THAT'S SPEEDS AND KIND OF HOW THEY HOW THEY WORK TOGETHER.
DESIGN OF SPEEDS IS SUPER COMPLICATED.
THERE IS A BUNCH OF FACTORS AND WE LISTED MANY HERE, BUT THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, BUT SOME OF THE BIG ONES WE TRY TO HIGHLIGHT FIRST, WHICH IS HOW CURVY IS THE ROAD AND HOW TIGHT ARE THOSE CURVES.
VERTICAL CURVES ARE YOUR HILLS, YOUR CREST AND YOUR SAGS.
THOSE CONTROL SPEEDS REALLY WELL.
ROAD FUNCTION AND PURPOSE HAS A BIG PART BECAUSE THERE'S AND THAT'S KIND OF A BROAD CATEGORY.
CONTEXT AND FUNCTION HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE SPEEDS THAT WE'LL SEE OUT ON THOSE STREETS.
NOT MUCH PAVEMENT CONDITIONS, DRIVEWAY DENSITIES JUST ON AND ON.
YOU CAN MEASURE IT, BUT IT'S FAIRLY IMPERCEPTIBLE.
THEY WENT BACK OUT AND MEASURED THEM AND THERE WAS NO CHANGE AT ALL ACROSS THE CITY.
A LITTLE SURPRISING, BUT NOT NOT REALLY.
SO HERE'S HOW THIS ALL COMES TOGETHER IN THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS.
AND THEN FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT IS THE MAJOR ARTERIALS.
THOSE ARE TYPICALLY THE EIGHT ROUTES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO RESIDENTIAL LOCAL STREETS ON THE FAR RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE THESE ARE ALL URBAN AGAIN, ALL THE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS OF ROAD.
AND ONCE YOU PICK THAT SPEED, THEN THERE'S A NUMBER OF CRITERIA THAT FALL BELOW THAT.
SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS THAT WE'RE ASKING TONIGHT AND WE'LL ASK IT LATER.
BUT HERE'S A KIND OF A PREVIEW AS.
DO WE WANT TO ADJUST THIS TABLE? DO WE THINK THAT MINOR ARTERIALS SHOULDN'T BE DESIGNED FOR 40? BECAUSE IF THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR 40, THEY'RE LIKELY TO OPERATE AT 40.
AND THIS IS A TABLE OUT OF THE REGIONAL PLAN.
SO THIS IS NOT IN THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS, BUT THERE'S A SERIES OF TABLES.
AND I'LL JUST JUMP TO THIS ONE, AND THIS IS THE SUBURBAN AND RURAL TABLE.
SO THE TOP IS THE SUBURBAN, THE LOWER IS THE RURAL.
SO WE HAVE SUBURBAN ACTIVITY CENTERS.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE USE TYPE AND LEVEL OF SERVICE.
AND SO BASICALLY WHAT WE WROTE ON THE FAR RIGHT IS KIND OF THE STORY.
THE TABLES ARE USED TO DETERMINE WHICH FEATURES TO ENHANCE WHEN RIGHT OF WAY IS SCARCE.
SO WE HAVE OUR TYPICAL CROSS SECTIONS FOR ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
BUT WHEN WE GET IN A PINCH AND WE CAN'T FIT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO LOOK AT THIS TABLE TO FIGURE OUT KIND OF HOW WE PRIORITIZE THE LIMITED SPACE THAT'S AVAILABLE.
THESE ALSO HELP US IN DEVELOPING OUR ROADWAY CROSS SECTION.
WE HAVE A FURNISHING STRIP BECAUSE IT'S AN URBAN AREA AND THERE'S TYPICALLY ON STREET PARKING.
SO THAT'S HOW AN URBAN STREET IS LAID OUT.
AND THAT'S KIND OF BASED ON THIS.
THIS IS HOW MODE PRIORITIZATION IS BUILT INTO OUR REGIONAL PLAN AND ENGINEERING STANDARDS TODAY.
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HERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY TO LOOK AT IT.AND AGAIN, WE'LL GO TO PORTLAND WITH THIS KIND OF UPSIDE DOWN TRIANGLE.
SO THIS IS THEIR GENERAL HIERARCHY.
AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE EXPLAINS HOW THEY IMPLEMENT THAT.
HIGHER ON THE LIST. SO YOU CAN'T MAKE CHANGES THAT MAKE IT WORSE FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE SOME USERS ON PARALLEL STREETS.
A LOT EASIER TO DO IN PORTLAND WITH A GRID THAN IT IS IN FLAGSTAFF.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY PARALLEL STREETS.
LAND USE AND SYSTEM PLANS, NETWORK FUNCTIONALITY FOR ALL MODES, OTHER STREET FUNCTIONS AND COMPLETE STREET POLICIES ARE MAINTAINED SO THAT TRIANGLE DOESN'T MESS UP YOUR BROADER PLANNING OBJECTIVES OR THE CONTINUITY OF ARTERIAL STREETS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THE LAST ONE POLICY BASED RATIONALE IS PROVIDED IF MODES LOWER IN THE ORDER LIST ARE PRIORITIZED SO THE TRIANGLE ISN'T ABSOLUTE, THERE'S GOING TO BE REASONS OR TIMES WHEN THINGS NEED TO BE SHUFFLED AROUND.
SO. IN A NUTSHELL HOW PORTLAND IS DOING THEIR PRIORITIZATION.
THIS IS THE ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION MAP.
JUST TO REMIND YOU, WE HAVE A HIERARCHY IN FLAGSTAFF OF DIFFERENT ROADS.
GREEN IS THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM.
BLUE ARE THE MAJOR, I'M SORRY, I'LL GO TO RED FIRST.
AND THEN WE, THE CITY, TYPICALLY HAS THE BLUE, WHICH ARE THE MINOR ARTERIAL ROUTES AND INTERSTATES.
MAJOR ARTERIALS AND MINOR ARTERIALS, OF COURSE, ARE FOR MOVING TYPICALLY MOVING PEOPLE LONG DISTANCES, MOVING THEM THROUGH THE REGION, ACROSS THE REGION, SOMETIMES NOT EVEN STOPPING IN THE REGION.
BUT TYPICALLY FOR THOSE FACILITIES IS MOVING VEHICLES, MOVING PEOPLE LONGER DISTANCES.
LESS DRIVEWAYS, LESS INTERACTION, HIGHER SPEEDS.
THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC EXPECTS.
THAT'S HOW WE BUILD THOSE FACILITIES.
THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, WE'RE MOVING DOWN THE LIST.
MAGENTA IS MAJOR COLLECTORS AND THE YELLOW IS THE MINOR COLLECTORS.
LOCAL STREETS ARE NOT SHOWN ON THIS MAP.
WE DON'T MAP THOSE. BUT OF COURSE, LOCAL STREETS ARE THE OPPOSITE OF THE ARTERIALS.
WE WANT LOW SPEEDS, LOW VOLUMES, LOTS AND LOTS OF DRIVEWAYS, JUST UNFETTERED ACCESS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE SPECTRUM OF THE HIERARCHY OF ROADS.
SO THAT'S WHAT OUR MAP LOOKS LIKE.
NOT AND SO SPEEDS FOLLOW THOSE HIERARCHIES.
FOR THE MOST PART, WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS.
OTHER CITIES DO IT THE SAME WAY.
AND IT'S BROKEN. THIS IS BOTH.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S BOTH THE HIERARCHY OF ROADS AND THE SPEED LIMITS.
SO CITY OF BOULDER LOOKS LIKE THEY DO THEIR PRINCIPAL ARTERIALS, 35, 40 AND 45.
WE HAVE TWO ROADS THAT ARE MODERATELY RURAL, THAT HAVE 45, BUT ALL OF OURS WOULD BE 35 OR 40, TYPICALLY MINOR ARTERIALS, 25 TO 35, WHICH WOULD BE THE SAME BANDING THAT WE USE COLLECTORS.
ALSO 25 TO 30 WOULD BE THE SAME BANDING THAT WE USE.
PORTLAND'S IS VERY BUSY AND HERE'S THAT AMAZING GRID THAT CAN DO ALL SORTS OF THINGS FOR YOU.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE A SIMILAR HIERARCHY WITH MAJOR STREETS AT 45 THERE.
THEY USE KIND OF A DIFFERENT TERMINOLOGY.
SO AGAIN, EVEN THESE FAIRLY URBAN GRIDDED CITIES STILL HAVE A FAIRLY.
FAIRLY ROBUST HIERARCHY OF DIFFERENT STREET TYPES AND DIFFERENT ROADWAY SPEEDS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
THAT WAS NUMBER TWO, AGAIN, HAS ABOUT FOUR PARTS.
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I FEEL LIKE I'M TRYING TO GO KIND OF FAST BECAUSE THERE'S STILL ANOTHER PART TO GO.BUT THE FIRST QUESTION IS, DOES THE CITY COUNCIL WANT US TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE VMT AS A PERFORMANCE MEASURE FOR FUTURE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYZES? SO ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN GET TO THIS POINT IS YOU NEED TO HAVE A REGIONAL MODEL THAT CAN DO VMT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, BUT METRO PLAN IS CREATING THAT NOW THROUGH THEIR RTP UPDATES.
CALIFORNIA HAD A, I FORGET HOW THEY CALL THEIR STATE LAWS, BUT THEY PASSED THE STATE LAW TO ADD VMT, TO REQUIRE VMT AS PART OF THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FOR THE TIA PROCESS AND MANY AND SO ALL CITIES ARE REQUIRED TO DO VMT AND I THINK THEY'RE ON YEAR SEVEN OR SO OF IMPLEMENTING.
IT'S TAKEN THEM THAT LONG TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THIS.
AND MOST CITIES DO THEIR TRADITIONAL PROCESS WITH LEVEL OF SERVICE AND ADD ON VMT TO THE PROCESS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS IS LONG AND SLOW AND COMPLICATED.
SO, JUST BE AWARE IT HAS BENEFITS, BUT IT DEFINITELY ADDS ANOTHER STEP.
SECOND QUESTION IS ARE WE INTERESTED IN DOING THE MODELING AND DOING THE ANALYSIS TO SEE IF SOME LEVEL OF SERVICE EXCEPTION ZONES WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO THE CITY COUNCIL? SO THIS WOULD BE LIKELY.
I DON'T I DON'T HAVE IT'S NOT PREDETERMINED WE HAVE DONE ANY OF THE WORK, BUT LIKELY SOME AREA AROUND THE DOWNTOWN CORE WOULD BE MY EXPECTATION WHERE WE SAY LEVEL OF SERVICE D IS NOT REQUIRED. WE WOULD ALLOW DEVELOPMENT TO GO TO LEVEL OF SERVICE E OR WE WOULD BUILD TO E.
SO I THINK MOST CITIES I DON'T KNOW, I THINK MOST ARE GOING TO E.
STANDARD DESIGN SPEEDS FOR FUTURE ROADWAY PLANNING.
DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE TABLES? I SHOWED YOU THE URBAN TABLE.
THERE'S ALSO A SUBURBAN TABLE AND A RURAL TABLE.
DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE AND REDUCE SOME SPEEDS OR RAISE SPEEDS? BUT I ASSUME IT'S REDUCED SPEEDS IS THE QUESTION.
AND THE FOURTH ITEM IS THE REGIONAL PLAN.
THERE'S POTENTIAL TO UPDATE THOSE TABLES THROUGH AN AMENDMENT PROCESS.
UH, ALL RIGHT, WHO WANTS TO JUMP IN? OTHER THAN SHIMONI? JUST KIDDING. I MEAN, I'LL JUMP IN IF I WANT TO, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD GOAL TO TRY TO REDUCE VEHICLES MILES TRAVELED. BUT I ALSO REALIZE THAT IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO ACCOMPLISH.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.
I THINK LAND USE PLANS HAVE MORE IMPACT ON VMT THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
BUT THE VERY NATURE OF LAND USE PLANS IS IT EVOLVES OVER MANY, MANY YEARS, OVER DECADES.
SO I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE TO HAVE IT AS A GOAL, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE MAJOR CHANGES IN THAT RIGHT OFF THE BAT, YOU KNOW? AND AS FAR AS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE EXCEPTIONS, I THINK IN CERTAIN AREAS LIKE DOWNTOWN THAT MIGHT MAKE THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE.
AND THEN DESIGN STANDARDS FOR FUTURE ROADWAYS.
I WHEN I READ THIS PACKET, THE MOST INTERESTING THING TO ME WAS WHEN BOWLER CHANGED THE SPEED LIMIT TO 20 MILES AN HOUR FROM 25 AND IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
SO I GUESS ON NUMBER THREE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULD MAKE ROADS NARROWER OR PUT MORE CURVES IN THEM ON PURPOSE OR WHAT? WHAT DO YOU THINK MIGHT COME OUT OF NUMBER THREE IF WE DECIDED TO DO THAT? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
SO NUMBER THREE IS THE DESIGN SPEED.
SO IT WASN'T IT WASN'T IMPACTING EXISTING STREETS.
SO I THINK BASED ON THE TABLE, IT WOULD BE, I THINK THAT ARTERIAL.
SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE, WOULD 35 BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR AN ARTERIAL?
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WELL, IT MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE, BUT I GUESS THE QUESTION IS HOW WOULD YOU ACCOMPLISH THAT? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE WITH SIGNS.IT HAS TO BE DONE WITH WIDTH OF THE ROAD OR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE NATURE OF THAT ROAD.
IT'S NOT LIKE A STRAIGHT THROUGH.
SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING GOAL.
BUT AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT'S LIKE, BOOM, YOU'RE GOING TO FLIP A SWITCH AND THEN IT'S DONE.
IT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
BUT I TAKE IT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A GRAIN OF SALT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CITY ON CERTAIN FRIDAYS IS DOWN AT LEVEL OF SERVICE.
F NOW, I RECENTLY WAS UP BY THE NORTH END OF HUMPHREYS AND THERE WERE SOME HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK.
AND WHEN I GOT TO ASPEN, THEY WERE RIGHT NEXT TO MY CAR.
WELL, ACTUALLY, THAT'S HUMPHREYS.
BUT SOMETIMES IN MILTON AND HUMPHREYS, YOU COULD LITERALLY WALK FASTER THAN YOU CAN DRIVE.
IT'S LIKE, WHAT NOW ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS? SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
HOW'S THAT FOR A NON DEFINITIVE ANSWER? COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI AND COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS.
I CAN'T HELP IT. I HAVE TO JUMP IN.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
BUT FOR FOUR YEARS, I REMEMBER TALKING TO LEADERSHIP AT THE CITY SAYING, ARE WE MOVING PEOPLE OR MOVING CARS? AND SO VMT, IT REALLY KIND OF CHANGES FLIPS THE SCRIPT FROM LEVELS OF SERVICE WHERE YOU REALLY FOCUS ON CARS AND SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE MOVING PEOPLE, HOW DO WE BEST MOVE PEOPLE? AND THAT'S THE HOLISTIC APPROACH THAT I THINK WE AS A CITY NEED TO TAKE.
AND TO, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE CONGESTION, YOU KNOW, I THINK VMT GIVES US MORE TOOLS TO ADDRESS THAT CONGESTION THAN JUST BUILDING MORE LANES, BECAUSE I THINK VMT IN THE END MIGHT TAKE LONGER IN THE PROCESS.
RIGHT? BUT IN THE END, IT WILL ALSO SAVE THE CITY A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE INSTEAD OF JUST BUILDING MORE ROADS THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN AND JUST MORE CONCRETE, WE'RE THINKING CREATIVELY OUTSIDE THE BOX.
AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY GOING TO RESULT IN A SMALLER FOOTPRINT OF CONCRETE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE BETTER FOR THE BUDGET, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND TOO.
I THINK IT BENEFITS OUR COMMUNITY TREMENDOUSLY ON LEVELS OF SERVICE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE NOT JUST FOCUS IN ON DOWNTOWN, BUT REALLY I'M THINKING SOUTHSIDE, I'M THINKING ABOUT BUTLER, I'M THINKING ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE ARE CROSSING THE ROAD.
ONE SLIDE THAT WASN'T IN THIS PRESENTATION, MAYBE IT'S YET TO COME, BUT I'LL JUST VERBALIZE IT.
WHAT I WAS HOPING WAS GOING TO BE PRESENTED WITH A PEDESTRIAN INTERSECTING WITH A CAR MOVING 40 MILES AN HOUR, WHICH IS QUITE A FEW OF OUR ROADWAYS, HAS AN 85% CHANCE OF FATALITY.
SO THINKING ABOUT THE VISION ZERO CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IN ADJUSTING OUR CHART AND OUR SPEED ALLOCATIONS WILL RESULT IN A HIGHER CHANCE OF LIFE OF SURVIVAL IF AND WHEN A CRASH OCCURS.
THAT'S WHERE I WANT US TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY.
AND IF YOU RECALL BACK WITH THE BICYCLE PARTY GROUP'S PETITION THAT THEY BROUGHT FORWARD TO US A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO OR A YEAR AGO, AT THIS POINT, THEY ASKED FOR US TO ADDRESS THOSE SPEED LIMIT ON BUTLER.
AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE REALLY ALLOWED TO BECAUSE OF THIS CHART TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
SO ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT WE HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH OUR SPEEDS AND HAVE MORE OF A RANGE RATHER THAN OKAY AT THIS TYPE OF ROAD CLASSIFICATION IS 40, IF IT'S THIS TYPE IS 35, BUT MAYBE GIVE US A A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY AS COUNCIL TO SAY, HEY, MAYBE THAT ROAD SHOULD BE 30 VERSUS 35 OR 40 BECAUSE IT DOES CROSS BY WORD.
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SO THAT'S WHERE MY MIND IS AT WHEN WE HAVE THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION.COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY? THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
BUT IT'S ONLY A YEAR ONE AFTER THEY CHANGE THE SCIENCE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT THE KIDS WHO ARE GROWING UP NEXT GENERATION.
AND I THINK THOSE STEPS ARE VALID, RIGHT.
IF WE WERE TO ADOPT THAT FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL, IF WE WERE TO ADOPT THAT CHART, HOW WOULD THAT OVERLAY ON THE CHART THAT WE HAVE AT THE REGIONAL PLAN AND THE VISION ZERO? HOW DOES THAT OVERLAY WITH THAT CHART? AND SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S TALK ABOUT DOING THAT AS PART OF THE NEXT REGIONAL PLAN UPDATE, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION AT HAND.
ARE WE PRIORITIZING A CENTER TURN LANE OR A MEDIAN OR AN ADDITIONAL BUFFERED BIKE LANE? YOU KNOW, AND THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE BASED OFF OF THE PRIORITIZATION IN THAT REGIONAL PLAN CHART.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT SLIDE ABOUT HOW PORTLAND ADDRESSES THIS.
I THINK THAT THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL THE TOPICS ON THIS SECTION.
THANK YOU. THE COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND THANK YOU, MR. BAUMAN, FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
LET ME START BY SAYING I BELIEVE THAT TRANSPORTATION SAFETY AND EFFICIENCY ARE VERY INTERESTING, INTRINSIC TO A THRIVING COMMUNITY AND RESILIENT ECONOMY.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH WITH METRO PLAN AND EVEN WITH THAT ROLE IN THE STATEWIDE RURAL TRANSPORTATION ADVOCACY COUNCIL.
BEFORE WE DELVE INTO FURTHER DISCUSSING THIS ITEM, IT'S KIND OF, LET ME JUST SHARE SOME SOME FACTS.
IN THE 2021 FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY SURVEY, TRANSPORTATION WAS IDENTIFIED AS TOP PRIORITY TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE AND AUTOMOBILE TRANSPORTATION IS HIGHEST PRIORITY, WITH 69% OF THE RESPONDENTS.
61% OF FLAGSTAFF WORKFORCE DRIVE TO WORK.
FLAGSTAFF ATTRACTS 6 MILLION VISITORS A YEAR.
FROM OUR TRIBAL NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE ON THE RESERVATIONS, DRIVE TO FLAGSTAFF FOR WORK, FOR AND FOR GOODS AND SERVICES WITH RESPECT TO THE VMT.
AS MR. BOWMAN HAS MENTIONED, METRO PLAN IS ACTUALLY UPDATING THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO SET THE REGIONAL MODEL FOR VMT. AND I THINK THAT THAT THAT MODELING IS IMPORTANT AND NOT FOR THE CITY NOT TO DO ITS OWN.
VMT, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE, WHAT WE HAVE VOTER APPROVED LONE TREE OVERPASS AND J.W.
AND I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME PRESENTATIONS BY THE METRO PLANT SOON.
AND I'VE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE PRESENTATION, THE ONWARD PLAN OF THE METRO PLAN.
STRIDE FORWARD INCREASES VEHICLES MILE TRAVELED BY 460,000 MILES A DAY BY 2030.
I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT TRANSPORTATION STRATEGIES MUST ENCOMPASS COMMUNITY DESIGN TO EXPAND URBANIZED AREAS, INCREASE DENSITY AND CONNECT MORE STREETS, WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY HAS MENTIONED HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH LAND USE.
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AND THIS HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH A BROADER LOOK OF OUR REGIONAL PLAN, WHICH IS ALSO CURRENTLY BEING UPDATED.SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I BELIEVE ALL OF THESE POINTS NEED TO BE INTERSPERSED WITH CURRENT PUBLIC PROCESS THROUGH THE METRO PLAN, FORWARD PLANNING AND OUR REGIONAL PLANNING, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
ALSO, KEEP IN MIND, WHILE WE IDENTIFY THESE MODELS, BOULDER.
WE ALSO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE MAJOR ARTERIALS IN OUR CITY ARE NOT EVEN MANAGED BY THE CITY.
THEY ARE MANAGED BY THE STATE.
SO, OF COURSE, ADA HAS THEIR LEVEL OF STANDARDS AND ALSO ENGINEERING STANDARDS WHICH ARE NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED STANDARDS. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
AND I HAVE TO NOTE THAT WE COULD NOT, I MEAN, WE CAN REDUCE THE SPEED LIMITS AND STUFF, BUT WE COULD NOT LEGISLATE OR CONTROL DISTRACTED DRIVING OR DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE OR IN MY CASE, MANY TIMES I HAVE SEEN PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS WHO ARE NOT EVEN LOOKING CROSSING THE STREET.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE FLASHERS AT NIGHT.
JUST KIND OF LIKE MY PERSONAL NOTE HERE.
SO WITH YOUR QUESTION, MR. BOWMAN, CAN YOU PLEASE RETURN TO THE? YES, I'M VERY MUCH INTERESTED INTO THE ENGINEERING DESIGN STARTUP, BUT THEY ALL HAVE TO BE INTERSPERSED WITH METRO PLANS RIGHT FORWARD AS IT'S DOING THE VMT MODELING.
AND I BELIEVE ALSO WITH THE METRO PLAN STRAIGHT FORWARD, IT EVEN HAS THE TRAVEL DEMAND STRATEGIES THAT PROMOTE WORK FROM HOME, RIDE SHARING, LESS DRIVING AND OF COURSE DOUBLE THE TRANSIT QUADRUPLED THE BIKE INDUSTRY AND FACILITIES. WHAT HAPPENED? OKAY, SO.
YEAH. SO AND THEN, OF COURSE, ALL OF THIS DISCUSSION NEEDS TO TO BE INCLUDED IN THE REGIONAL PLAN UPDATE.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY? YEAH, JUST TO COME BACK TO DESIGN SPEEDS A LITTLE BIT.
A COUPLE OF POINTS. ONE IS I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO ACROSS TOWN AT 40 OR 50 MILES AN HOUR.
YOU KNOW, 35 MILES AN HOUR IS GREAT.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE SPEED LIMIT WERE 35, PEOPLE WOULD GO 40.
YOU'RE FARTHER APART FOR SAFETY REASONS.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING 20, YOU'RE NOT MOVING.
SO 40 IS LIKE AN OPTIMUM SPEED TO MOVE THE MOST CARS DOWN STREET PER UNIT TIME.
IN MY OPINION. THE COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL WEIGH IN HERE.
I AM THINKING OF ONE IN PARTICULAR ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE OUR VMT FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
THEN ON THE LESS EXCEPTIONS, YES, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ENDEAVOR AS WE UPDATE THE REGIONAL PLAN. AND IN TERMS OF THE SPEEDS, THIS DOES SAY SPECIFICALLY STANDARD DESIGNED SPEEDS RATHER THAN THE STATED SPEEDS, BECAUSE I DIDN'T HOMEWORK TOO, ON THIS, NOT JUST WITH BOULDER, BUT THIS IS NATIONALLY.
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PEOPLE AREN'T ABIDING BY SIGNS UNLESS THEY'RE FLASHING WITH RADAR.RADAR SPEED SIGNS DO WORK AND DECREASES BY LIKE TEN 20% SPEEDS.
NOT WE'RE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO DO 40.
IT CAN BE A RANGE 35 TO 40 OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
AND I THINK THAT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE THINKING OF J.W.
POWELL, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENTS THERE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO WANT PEOPLE TO PROBABLY TO BE SLOWING DOWN IN AREAS THAT MAY BE A HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL COMPARED TO AN R-1 FOR GOING SPEEDS OR WHERE PEDESTRIANS MIGHT BE ACTUALLY CROSSING THE STREET AS OPPOSED TO A COUPLE OF MILES WHERE THERE MAY NOT BE ANYONE REALLY CROSSING THE STREET.
SO I'M SAYING I'M GOOD WITH THE VARIABLE SPEEDS ON THAT FOR THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND YES, PUTTING THIS INTO THE REGIONAL PLAN WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
AS WE KNOW THE WE DON'T CONTROL ALL THEM STREETS SO.
ALL RIGHT, THERE'S MY TWO CENTS.
NEXT? THANK YOU. SO I AM DEFINITELY A YES ON ONE THROUGH THREE.
AND, YOU KNOW, JUST A THOUGHT.
I REMEMBER DOING A MEETING WITH SOME OF THE STAFF IN PORTLAND, AND WE DID TALK A LOT ABOUT THE INVERTED PYRAMID, AND I THINK THAT'S JUST A MIND SHIFT.
EVEN IF WE CAN'T DO ALL OF THAT ALL OF THE TIME HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.
IT DOES. IT REALLY CHANGED MY IDEA OF PROJECTS.
AND I JUST WOULD RECOMMEND EVERYONE TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT AND USE IT FOR THE FUTURE.
COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN? I'LL BE BRIEF. I'M A YES FOR ONE THROUGH THREE.
AND I KNOW THAT MILES AND DAVID ARE WATCHING US, OR THEY WILL WATCH IT.
AND I JUST HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN METRO PLAN'S ABILITY TO BIKE AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME HERE.
AND AND WE BRING THIS MANDATE TO THEM BY BEING ON THEIR BOARD AS WELL.
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SYNERGY, WHICH IS WHERE THAT CAME UP A LOT AT OUR PREVIOUS METRO PLANNING MEETING AND JUST GOOD COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND METRO PLAN ON THIS AND A DOT.
AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS, FOR ALL THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL THAT YOU BRING TO THAT AND FOR THE ADVOCACY THAT YOU TAKE TO THE STATE CAPITAL ALL THE TIME AND AGAIN.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI, I HOPE YOU'RE FEELING GOOD TONIGHT.
THIS IS A BIG PART OF YOUR LEGACY.
COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
YES, I'M IN AGREEMENT ON ONE THROUGH THREE.
I'M NOT GOING TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN JUST SAID, BUT I DO THINK I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE SEEKING DIRECTION ON THE POTENTIAL REGIONAL PLAN CHANGES BETWEEN WHETHER WE THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE AMENDMENTS NOW OR INCORPORATION INTO THE REGIONAL PLAN.
UPDATE WAS THAT. THE QUESTION THERE.
THE QUESTION WAS, WERE YOU INTERESTED IN THIS TOPIC? AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF OPTIONS AND HOW TO PURSUE THAT.
EXCUSE ME. SO FOR ME, I THINK I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING IT AS PART OF INCORPORATION INTO THE REGIONAL PLAN UPDATE RATHER THAN WORKING THROUGH AMENDMENTS NOW, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE JUST MADE.
BUT I THINK BY INCORPORATING IT INTO THE REGIONAL PLAN UPDATE THAT ALLOWS FOR THE MORE COLLABORATIVE PROCESS WITH METRO PLAN AND AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME STAKE IN SOME OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS.
I THINK WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO PROCEED.
I'VE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO USE WIPES.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THREE CHEERS TO JEFF FOR GETTING THROUGH THAT.
I'M GOING AROUND THIS OUT WITH A DISCUSSION ON ONGOING WORK TOWARDS THE BIG SHIFT.
AND SO THIS IS THE NEW SLIDE IN YOUR PACKET.
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MARCH THAT REALLY TALKED ABOUT TRANSFORMING TRANSFORMATION.IT TALKED ABOUT THE BIG SHIFT AND THERE'S A LOT HERE, AND I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO READ IT ALL.
BUT THE MAIN MESSAGE IS THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING.
THERE'S A LOT THAT'S IN PROGRESS AND THERE IS MUCH WORK TO BE DONE.
SO THOSE THINGS ARE COMPLETED, ARE IN PROGRESS, RIGHT? AND SO I'M GOING TO GET INTO THOSE AND WE'LL GET INTO THOSE DETAILS.
AND THE BROADER MESSAGE HERE IS THAT THERE'S MUCH MORE WORK TO COME.
IT IS TURNING A BIG, BIG SHIFT.
IT WILL TAKE REALLY DEEP WORK ON OUR SYSTEMS AND OUR PROCESSES.
THE DEEP WORK THAT YOU ALL WERE JUST DISCUSSING ABOUT AND THAT JEFF BROUGHT TO YOU TONIGHT.
RIGHT? AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS ABOUT HOW WE THINK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
IT'S ABOUT HOW WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.
RIGHT. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC, RIGHT.
HOW MIGHT WE CHANGE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN SOME WAYS, CHANGING EXPECTATIONS, RIGHT.
ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECT FROM OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
AND THAT REALLY IS IN THIS SORT OF PHASE FOUR AND BEYOND HERE.
WHAT I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW, THOUGH, IS THE IN-PROGRESS THING.
SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT A CITY CODE ANALYSIS PROJECT, AN UPDATE ON OUR PARTNERSHIP WORK WITH METRO PLAN, AND THEN A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE STRIDE FORWARD REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
THE CODE ANALYSIS PROJECT WILL LOOK AT OUR CITY CODES AND ANALYZE HOW THEY HELP ACHIEVE BOTH HOUSING GOALS AND HOW WE ACHIEVE THE GOALS OF THE TEN YEAR HOUSING PLAN AND THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.
WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO BE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT WITH OUR PARTNERS IN HOUSING, AS WELL AS OUR PLANNING STAFF LED BY MICHELLE MCNULTY, AS WELL AS JEFF AND HIS TEAM IN ENGINEERING. AND WE'RE BRINGING IN FOLKS FROM ECONOMIC VITALITY, WATER SERVICES AND MORE.
WE'VE WORKED THIS SUMMER TO BUILD A SCOPE OF WORK FOR THIS PROJECT, AND THIS WILL BE PREPARED.
SORRY, WE'VE BEGUN PUSHING THE SCOPE INTO A FORMAL RESCUE, WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS IN PROCUREMENT.
AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO PAIR THESE TWO PROJECTS TOGETHER TO WORK ACROSS DIVISIONS, TO SAY WITH OUR EXISTING CODES, WITH WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, WHAT ARE BARRIERS TO ACHIEVING OUR BROADER COMMUNITY GOALS IN HOUSING, IN SUSTAINABILITY AND BEYOND.
RIGHT. AND SO THIS ANALYSIS WILL DO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT RELATED CODES REALLY LINE BY LINE TO SEE HOW CODES MIGHT BE CHANGED TO SUPPORT HOUSING SUSTAINABILITY AND MORE FOR CLIMATE. SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THREE OF OUR GOALS.
AND THIS IS REALLY GOING TO RESULT IN TWO THINGS.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR THOSE BECAUSE THAT WILL LEAD TO A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE CHANGE OUR CODES FOR THE BETTER, AND THEN WE'LL ACTUALLY TEST THOSE CODES ON PROJECTS AND FLAGSTAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY REALLY WORK.
SO THIS IS A MULTIYEAR PROJECT, BUT WE ARE STARTING THERE'S A LOT OF INTERNAL STAFF WORK GOING ON.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE BIG SHIFT REALLY INVOLVES HOW WE THINK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, RIGHT? IT RELATES TO THE CONVERSATIONS YOU ALL JUST HAD.
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AND SO IN MAY WE GOT 30 TRANSPORTATION RELATED STAFF, SO PLANNING STAFF AS WELL FROM THE CITY, FROM METRO PLAN, MOUNTAIN LION, THE COUNTY AND NEW IN THE ROOM. AND WE BROUGHT IN NATIONAL EXPERTS.THIS WORKSHOP WAS DONE THROUGH THE MINI GRANT THAT WE'VE MENTIONED BEFORE THAT WE.
RECEIVED FROM METRO PLAN, AND THIS WORKSHOP WAS IN DEEP PARTNERSHIP WITH METRO PLAN.
AND WHAT'S REALLY EXCITING IS THAT WE CAME BACK WITH REAL RESULTS.
I DON'T EXPECT ANYONE TO READ THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU IT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY OUR FACILITATORS WHO ARE THE SAME FOLKS WORKING ON THE STRIDE FORWARD REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN, AND IT JUST ILLUSTRATES THE WIDE RANGE OF CONVERSATION AND HOW MUCH WE COULD TAKE AWAY FROM IT.
NEXT, WE'VE GOT SOME MORE PROGRESS TO TALK ABOUT.
AND WHAT WE LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THE BIG SHIFT IS THAT IT WILL TAKE EVERYONE.
THE NICE THING ABOUT THAT IS THAT WE GET TO CELEBRATE EVERYONE.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, MAYBE FOR THE DOWNTOWN MILE PROJECT.
THE DOWNTOWN MILE PROJECT IS A PART OF THE BIG SHIFT, RIGHT? IT PRIORITIZES MOVING PEOPLE ACROSS REALLY BIG BARRIERS, RIGHT? IT'S A REALLY, REALLY COOL EXAMPLE OF THIS CITY TAKING BIG STEPS TO MOVE PEOPLE AND PRIORITIZE THEIR MOVEMENT.
RIGHT. IT DOES A LOT OF OTHER THINGS, TOO, RIGHT? AND WE'RE SO EXCITED ABOUT IT.
BUT I THINK IT REALLY KIND OF SETS A NEW STEP FORWARD BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH CLEAR ALIGNMENT.
THE FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION PRIORITIES HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH WALKABILITY, RIGHT? WITH CLIMATE, WITH EQUITY, ETC..
RIGHT. AND SO THIS THAT CLEAR ALIGNMENT IS JUST SO EXCITING FOR US TO SEE.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THAT TEAM AND REALLY ALL OF TEAM FLAGSTAFF IN TERMS OF UPCOMING WORK ON THE BIG SHIFT, AS WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WILL COME TO COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER AND REPRESENTS THE POLICY KIND OF SUPPORT FOR SO MANY BIG SHIFT CONCEPTS. THE NEXT THING IS WE HAVE TWO REALLY EXCITING PROJECTS AND THEY REALLY RELATE TO EVERYTHING YOU ALL JUST DISCUSSED.
AND SO THE FIRST PROJECT IS THE WORK TO INTEGRATE VMT INTO OUR TRANSPORTATION MODELING AND ANALYSIS.
AND SO THAT WILL BRING IT INTO THE STRIDE FORWARD RTP PROCESS.
AND THIS IS JUST REALLY IMPORTANT, AND I'M KIND OF REPEATING A LITTLE BIT WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T USE VMT AS A METRIC IN OUR TRANSPORTATION DECISIONS, RIGHT? BUT VMT IS ONE OF THE MOST KEY METRICS OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.
WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT JUST ELECTRIC VEHICLES, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN AND REDUCE OUR VMT.
AND SO A LOT OF OTHER CITIES HAVE ALSO STARTED USING VMT AS A METRIC TO LOOK AT LESS.
YEAH, WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS OF TRAFFIC, BUT MORE IF WE HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT RIGHT? AND SO WHAT THIS PROJECT WILL DO, IT WILL SAY WHEN WE HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT OR WHEN WE HAVE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT VMT? HOW MANY MORE CARS DOES THAT PUT ON THE ROAD AND HOW MANY MORE MILES DOES THAT NEED TO BE DRIVEN? SOME DEVELOPMENTS MAY HAVE REALLY HIGH IMPACTS, SOME MAY NOT.
RIGHT. AND HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT THOSE TWO DEVELOPMENTS DIFFERENTLY? RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY ARE REALLY DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THEIR IMPACT.
SO WE ARE SO EXCITED FOR METRO PLAN SUPPORT AND PARTNERSHIP HERE.
THE NEXT PROJECT IS PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
IT'S KIND OF JUST THE THIRD LEG OF THIS STOOL OF WE NEED THE DATA, RIGHT? AND WHEN WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS, WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP US KNOW IF WE'RE GETTING IT RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT'S A BIG QUESTION BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS WORK BEFORE NECESSARILY IN THIS CONTEXT OF VMT.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THINGS BEING IN LOCKSTEP.
SO THESE THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD.
THEY ARE BECAUSE THEY'RE TIED TO THE RTP.
WE WILL BE WORKING ON THEM IN WINTER AND SPRING OF THIS YEAR.
AND SO WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU ALL AROUND THAT TIME ON HOW THESE THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD.
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CONSIDERING HOW WE WILL MEET OUR TRANSPORTATION RELATED GOALS IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.AND IT IS SO DEEPLY EXCITING TO US.
I GO BY MILES BECAUSE IT'S SHORT FOR VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED.
AND I DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ORGANIZATION, AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT METRO PLAN HAS WITH THE CITY IS VERY CLOSE AND IT'S NOT A MATTER OF METRO PLAN PROVIDING INFORMATION AND THE CITY ACTS ON IT OR VICE VERSA.
WE REALLY CREATE THIS TOGETHER AND FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY FOR CHAIRING THE METRO PLAN BOARD COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS FOR SERVING ON THE METRO PLAN BOARD AND THE ARTEK BOARD, AND ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER AZLAN WHO'S ON THE BOARD. YOU TALKED ABOUT A LOT TONIGHT, AND THE STRIDE FORWARD PLAN IS METRO PLANS, EFFORT TO LOOK FORWARD 25 YEARS AND CREATE.
AND THIS IS THE MISSION OF METRO PLAN TO CREATE THE FINEST TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IN THE COUNTRY.
OF COURSE, THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE FINEST TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IN THE COUNTRY? IT DEPENDS WHO YOU ASK.
THERE ARE TWO THINGS IN THE STRIDE FORWARD PLAN.
AND THE OTHER IS THE UPWARD PLAN THAT WOULD REACH FOR MAINTAINING VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED.
IT WOULD TRY TO KEEP THOSE VEHICLE MILES MILES TRAVELED DOWN.
SO WE'RE STILL FINE TUNING THAT PLAN.
WE'RE DOING A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT AND WE'LL BE BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
I'D LIKE TO SAY ONE OTHER THING THAT'S NOT ON MY TALKING POINTS, BUT IT OCCURS TO ME AS I LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT AND I THINK PERHAPS IT AMPLIFIES SOMETHING JEFF SHARED AND COUNCIL MEMBER SUITE POINTED OUT.
I ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR, THOUGH, THAT I AM AGNOSTIC ON WHAT YOU DECIDE.
I'M NOT HERE TO SAY INVERT THE PYRAMID.
I'M HERE TO SAY THAT WE WILL DESIGN WORK, TO DESIGN THE KIND OF PLAN THAT THIS COMMUNITY WANTS.
AND IT'S JUST IT'S A PROCESS, OF COURSE, TO KEEP FIGURING THAT OUT.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS JUST JUST FOR CLARITY AND FOR THE PUBLIC INFORMATION, MR. MALAS, COULD YOU JUST KIND OF SCOPE OUT THE THE, THE COVERAGE OF METRO PLAN IN TERMS OF THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING BOUNDARIES? SCOPE OUT THE BOUNDARY OF METRO PLAN TO DESCRIBE TO PEOPLE.
YES. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND WE DEFINE THAT AS SOUTH TO SOLVE THE CASINO VILLAGE AND THEN DON'T PARK TO BELMONT.
SO WE REALLY ARE WITHIN THE MORE URBANIZED AREA.
WE DON'T EXTEND VERY MUCH FARTHER INTO THE COUNTY.
I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE DIRECTION WE'VE BEEN SEEKING.
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WE APPRECIATE THE DIRECTION.AS FOR NEXT STEPS, WE WILL BE PUTTING OUR WE WILL REGROUP INTERNALLY TO SET SOME DATES TO GET ITEMS ON THE WORKING CALENDAR.
WE WILL COME BACK WITH THE TIMELINES, STAFFING NEEDS, FUNDING NEEDS, POTENTIAL RESOURCES, FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THE GREAT RESOURCES COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS BROUGHT FORWARD AND LOTS OF LOTS OF WORK AHEAD.
WITH THAT, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI. QUICK QUESTION THINKING, NICOLE.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU, COUNSEL.
DO YOU KNOW IF IF HIRING STAFF WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE WERE ALLOCATED ARE BEING ALLOCATED TO OVERSEE LIKE BIKE PED PROJECTS? I'M THINKING ABOUT MARTIN HERE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE DOWNTOWN MILE GRANT FUNDING COULD COULD PROVIDE? IS STAFF SUPPORT? I WOULD LOVE TO DEFER TO MARTIN OR JEFF ON THAT.
STACEY BE GAME OR STACEY PICK.
WHO'S NOT HERE. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER EITHER.
IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL GRANT APPLICATION.
OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK CREATIVELY AS TO HOW TO.
YEAH. MARTIN, WE WERE CLOSE, BUT WE'LL GET IT NEXT TIME.
AND THEN MY OTHER COMMENT IS, YOU KNOW, MILES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
AND WE SO APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH METRO PLAN.
AND MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES WHO ARE ARE REALLY INVOLVED IN REALLY HANDS ON WITH METRO.
AND I SO APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND EFFORTS WITH THAT PARTNER AGENCY.
YOU ALL DO SUCH IMPORTANT WORK FOR OUR REGION AND WITH THESE TOPICS OF CAPITAL FOR THE CITY.
SO THANK YOU. IT MEANS A LOT TO ME.
I DO SEE WE HAVE A COMMENTS ONLINE, SO I'M GOING TO HOLD MY CLOSING STATEMENT UNTIL THEN.
THANK YOU. I WILL GO TO THE COMMENT.
TYLER, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS IS TYLER DENHAM.
FIRST OFF, I APOLOGIZE IF THE AUDIO IS BAD.
CURRENTLY TRAVELING OUTSIDE OF FLAGSTAFF ON A BUSINESS TRIP.
I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE PART OF THE BIG SHIFT AND AFTER LOOKING OVER THE CITY STAFF'S PRESENTATION, I THINK THE BEST WAY TO SUPPORT IT IS WITH CHANGES TO OUR ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARDS AND LAND USE.
YOU SEEM TO BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE POLICY LOVERS AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A VERY INTERESTING EXAMPLE OF THIS IN THE PRESENTATION I THINK YOU SAW IN BOULDER, COLORADO, WHEN THEY REDUCED THE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS BY FIVE MILES PER HOUR, TRAFFIC SPEED WAS UNAFFECTED.
TO REDUCE TRAFFIC SPEED, THEY HAD TO CHANGE THE DESIGN OF THE ROAD, HOW IT'S PHYSICALLY BUILT.
A NICE, CLEAR ILLUSTRATION OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REAL AND MERELY DECORATIVE CHANGES.
I ALSO HAVE A THOUGHT TO SHARE ON POTENTIAL HESITANCY TO EMBRACE THE BIG SHIFT.
I THINK A LOT OF HESITANCY IS MOTIVATED BY A VIEW THAT THE STATUS QUO BALANCE OF TRANSPORTATION MODES IS NATURAL, BUT THAT'S MISTAKEN. THERE'S NOTHING NATURAL ABOUT AMERICANS GENERATING 16,000 VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED PER CAPITA, WHILE THE BRITISH GENERATE ONLY 7000 OR ABOUT AMERICANS DYING INTO TRAFFIC FATALITIES AT A RATE OF 13 PER 100,000 RESIDENTS.
WHILE IN JAPAN, IT'S ONLY FOUR.
IT'S DICTATED BY THE CHOICES OF POLICYMAKERS LIKE YOURSELF.
SO THERE IS NO NATURAL THERE'S ONLY CHOICES.
AND KEEPING THE STATUS QUO IS AS MUCH AN INTENTIONAL CHOICE AS EMBRACING CHANGE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
PAUL BAYER WANTED TO GIVE COMMENT BUT HAD THE DROP OFF.
HE SAID HE EMAILED HIS COMMENTS INSTEAD.
AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THOSE IF YOU GET THE CHANCE.
THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
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THANK YOU, TYLER. BUT.I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE TEAM.
CITY MANAGER. CLIFTON MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
SO I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT WHERE WE ARE HEADING AND WHERE WE'RE AT AS A CITY.
THIS IS ABOUT, I THINK, LIKE THREE YEARS OF FARES PUT INTO ONE AGENDA ITEM OF SO SO THIS WAS A LOT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF TO SEEING THIS AGENDA ITEM THROUGH.
THERE'S A LOT ON THIS AND I THINK WE COVERED A LOT OF GROUND REALLY EFFICIENTLY.
SO THANK YOU STAFF, FOR SETTING THAT UP SO SMOOTH.
I THINK ALTHOUGH METRO PLAN IS LEADING ON MANY OF THESE TOPICS AND I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT, HAVING COUNCIL GIVE CLEAR SUPPORT AND DIRECTION ON THESE POINTS, I THINK WILL HELP STAFF TREMENDOUSLY AND GIVE STAFF THAT DIRECTION THAT THEY NEED TO REALLY SEE THESE IDEAS THROUGH AND NOT JUST ON PAPER BUT IN ACTION.
SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR COUNCIL TAKING THE TIME TO DO THAT.
AND I JUST WANTED TO END WITH I REMEMBER MY FIRST MEETING WITH WITH JEFF, RICK BARRETT AND MARTIN, AND WE MET FOR AN HOUR IN THE UPSTAIRS MEETING ROOM, AND 5 HOURS LATER JEFF COMES OUT AND MARTIN AND I ARE STILL TALKING AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
AND JEFF GOES, DID YOU GUYS FIGURE IT OUT YET? AND WE SAID, YES, WE'RE ON OUR WAY.
AND IN THREE YEARS LATER, I REALLY DO FEEL LIKE WE ARE ON OUR WAY.
SO JUST A FUN REFLECTION POINT.
I'M JUST BEYOND GRATEFUL AND AND VERY EXCITED.
THANK YOU. AND HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
EXCELLENT. ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, NICOLE.
WITH THAT, WE ARE DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 12 INFORMATIONAL ITEMS, TOO, FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER. MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FOR ITEM NUMBER 11.
SO, AGENDA ITEM 12 INFORMATIONAL ITEMS. WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.
[12. Informational Items To/From Mayor, Council, and City Manager; future agenda item requests]
THANK YOU. WASN'T QUITE READY.FIRST, I WANTED TO JUST OFFER PRAISE FOR THE INDIGENOUS DAY CELEBRATION.
IT WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING AND DEEPLY INSIGHTFUL.
VERY POWERFUL. AND A STRONG CALL TO ACTION FOR UPLIFTING AND EMPOWERING INDIGENOUS VOICES AND ALSO ACTION IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE SUPPORT OF REALLY AT HEART, INDIGENOUS LIFE AND AND AND CULTURE.
I THINK ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL THINGS THAT THAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS THE STATEMENT FROM ONE OF THE PRESENTERS IN THE MORNING SAYING THAT CURRENT GENERATIONS ARE IN FEAR OF NOT LIVING TO SEE THEMSELVES BECOME ELDERS IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO CALL OUT THAT OCTOBER IS ALSO HOUSING AMERICA MONTH AND GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE HOUSING SECTION STAFF AND ALL THOSE WORKING TO ADVANCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND EQUITABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S IT. COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI.
THANK YOU. I'LL GO THROUGH THIS LIST AS QUICK AS I CAN.
JUST WANT TO GIVE CHIEF MUSSELMAN A SHOUT OUT FOR HOSTING THAT TOWN HALL.
I THOUGHT HE DID A GREAT JOB AND THOSE WHO SHOWED UP IN PERSON.
THANK YOU. I TUNED IN VIRTUALLY.
I SAW SARA AND SAM BOTH THERE FROM CITY STAFF AND OTHERS WHO WERE IN ATTENDANCE.
THAT WAS INCREDIBLE. AND I KNOW DARRELL MARKS HAD A BIG ROLE IN THAT.
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THORP PARCEL ANNEX AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT DISCUSSION THIS WEDNESDAY, TOMORROW AT 8 A.M.THE THE COUNCIL SALARY COMMITTEE IS MEETING AND THEY HAVE BEEN MEETING.
SO THANK YOU TO THOSE SERVING ON THAT COMMITTEE.
AND I'M LOOKING I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THEIR DISCUSSION TOMORROW.
I BELIEVE THEY'LL BE VOTING ON THE PLAN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING TO US, I BELIEVE, SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET IT DONE BEFORE THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE OCCURS OR THE NEXT GROUP GETS SWORN IN.
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT RECOMMENDATION COMING BEFORE US THIS WEDNESDAY.
THE JCC IS MEETING FROM 3 P.M.
AND AGAIN THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, SO PLEASE DO JOIN IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
AND THAT STANDS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE COORDINATING COUNCIL.
AND LASTLY, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE MEETING WITH THE COUNTY ON MONDAY.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH AND HAVE A GREAT GOOD EVENING.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER VICE MAYOR.
THANK YOU. I HAD A LIST OF THINGS I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, BUT ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO SWITCH THINGS UP AND THANK COUNCIL MEMBER SHIMONI FOR HIS LEADERSHIP.
WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE BIG SHIFT, I DIDN'T THINK IT COULD HAPPEN.
AND I JUST REALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT AND LEADERSHIP ON THAT.
THANKS. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
I KNOW. I THINK ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE THERE, ACTUALLY, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
I HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON THAT ISSUE AND I WILL DO A LOT OF WORK ON THAT ISSUE.
THE OTHER THING THAT I DID LAST WEEK IS METRO PLAN HAD A IMPORTANT MEETING AND WE DISCUSSED THE STRIKE FORWARD, A REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN WHICH WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL PRETTY SOON.
SO AND I BELIEVE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION WAS LAST WEEK ALSO.
SO LOTS GOING ON IN TRANSPORTATION.
A LOT OF THAT GOT COVERED AGAIN TONIGHT AND FOR GOOD REASON.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ASLAN.
I'M GOOD. YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS.
JUST ADDING ANOTHER DETAIL TO THE METRO PLAN BOARD MEETING LAST WEEK IN METRO PLAN IS IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING A TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT.
AND THEN SO AND THEN FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING OF METRO PLANS TRIED FORWARD FOR THE NOVEMBER MORE BOARD MEETING OF METRO PLAN.
THE METRO PLAN STRAIGHT FORWARD REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS SCHEDULED TO BE ADOPTED AND THEN OFF ON MONDAY, JUST ECHOING THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THERE WILL BE A JOINT CITY COUNCIL AND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WORK SESSION AT 3:00 MONDAY, OCTOBER 17.
AND I'M STILL GIDDY ABOUT GETTING THAT TO HAPPEN WITH ALL THIS TEAM AFTER SO MANY YEARS.
WE WERE THE ONLY ONES IN ALL OF ARIZONA TO GET AN AWARD AND OUT OF OVER 260 APPLICANTS FEDERALLY.
NATIONWIDE, THEY ONLY GAVE 26 IN FOUR GRANTS OUT.
YES, EVERYONE BROUGHT UP THE DIGITAL INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY.
FORTUNATELY, I WASN'T ABLE TO BE THERE FOR AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO BECAUSE I WAS IN A THREE HOUR SESSION WITH OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS, WITH THE ARIZONA TOWN HALL AND A FEW REGARDING MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE USE AND HOMELESSNESS, WHICH THEY ARE ALSO WILL BE HOLDING ANOTHER ONE IN TEMPE FOR STATEWIDE AND NEXT MONTH, AND WANTED TO BE ON THE MAYOR'S PANEL FOR THAT DISCUSSION ALONGSIDE COREY WOODS.
ANYWAYS, ASIDE FROM THAT, LOOKING FORWARD TO TOMORROW'S FIRST RESPONDERS LUNCHEON.
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MEETING ADJOURNED. OH, CITY MANAGER.DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.