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>> THANK YOU. WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR FIRST ALL VIRTUAL MEETING IN QUITE AWHILE.

[1. CALL TO ORDER NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this regular meeting, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]

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I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

TODAY IS JANUARY 17TH, 2023.

I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE NOTICE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LEGAL ADVICE IF NEEDED.

CITY CLERK, CAN WE PLEASE HAVE ROLL?

>> MAYOR DAGGETT.

>> HERE.

>> VICE MAYOR ASLAN.

>> PRESENT.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

>> HERE.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE?

>> I WOULD BE HONORED. PLEASE STAND UP ABLE.

>> LET ME GET MY MIC. SOMEONE'S MIC.

SORRY.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET, YOU ARE MUTED.

>> THANK YOU. SORRY. I'M GOING TO START OVER.

THERE WAS AN ECHO ON MY END.

>> THANK YOU, AND MY APOLOGIES.

I HAD MY MICROPHONE ON IN THE VERY BEGINNING, SO I PROBABLY THREW YOU OFF. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US THE CITY'S MISSION STATEMENT? [OVERLAPPING] YOU'RE MUTED.

>> WELCOME BACK TO VIRTUAL EVERYONE.

>> I UNMUTED IT, BUT THEN IT REMUTED ITSELF.

JUST AS I SAID BEFORE, THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, WOULD YOU GIVE US THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT, PLEASE?

>> THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THIS AREA'S INDIGENOUS NATIONS AND ORIGINAL STEWARDS.

THESE LANDS, STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS, BORDER MOUNTAINS SACRED TO THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.

WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.

WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE IS HOME.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS?

>> MAYOR, I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY AT THIS TIME.

>> GREAT, SO WE WILL MOVE DOWN TO NUMBER 5, COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS.

[5. COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS]

LET'S START WITH VICE MAYOR ASLAN.

>> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR.

THIS WEEK, I HAD THE PLEASURE AND PRIVILEGE OF ATTENDING THE TOURISM COMMISSION ANNUAL RETREAT WHERE VARIOUS DEPARTMENT IDEAS WERE DISCUSSED, VARIOUS BUDGETS WERE RAISED.

IT WAS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE COMMISSIONERS AND GET A FEEL FOR THE GROUP.

WE SPENT HALF A DAY TALKING ABOUT ALL THAT DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF DOES AND ALL THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT THE TOURISM COMMISSION TOUCHES UPON, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PRESENTATION THAT IS COMING BEFORE THE BUDGET PROCESS EVENTUALLY, IN WHICH THEY WILL BE COMING FORTH WITH SOME NEW IDEAS OF HOW TO UTILIZE THE EXPENDITURES THAT ARE AFFORDED TO THEM.

I BELIEVE VERY STRONGLY THAT ALL THE MONIES THAT GO INTO TOURISM COMES BACK TO FLAGSTAFF IN TERMS OF RETURN ON INVESTMENT WITH MANY DIVIDENDS, SO IT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION, AND I JUST REALLY GRATEFUL TO BE A PART OF THE TOURISM COMMISSION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING MORE OF THAT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

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LOOKING AT MY CALENDAR HERE, I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.

THE METRO PLAN BOARD MEETING WAS THURSDAY AFTERNOON.

THAT WAS RIGHT AFTER OUR LAST COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT HAS BEEN TOUCHED UPON IN THE PAST WEEK, AND I'M GOING TO LET COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY TOUCH UPON THAT MORE, BUT ONE THING I DID WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON WITH THE COCONINO PLATEAU WATER ADVISORY PARTNERSHIP IS THE RURAL GROUNDWATER WORKING GROUP THAT WE HAVE GOING.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INTERESTING MOVEMENT VERY RAPIDLY HERE.

IN THIS NEW SESSION, WE HAVE A NEW GOVERNOR AND A NEW LEGISLATURE, AND SOME INTERESTING THINGS ARE COMING UP IN TERMS OF HOW WE MANAGE OUR RURAL GROUNDWATER AND THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

I'M NOT GOING TO GET TOO DEEP INTO THE POLICY ON IT.

FIRST OF ALL, I'D GET MYSELF INTO TROUBLE VERY QUICKLY, AND ALSO THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR US TO DO THAT, HOPEFULLY ON THE AGENDA HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR COUNSEL OR WEIGH IN ON A COUPLE OF PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT WILL BE BECOMING BEFORE THE STATE WITH RESPECT TO RURAL GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION, SO STAY TUNED ON THAT.

MADAM MAYOR, I THINK I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.

I THINK THAT'S PLENTY TO DIGEST FOR NOW. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

HOW ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS?

>> I HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND ANY OF THE COMMITTEES THAT I'VE BEEN ASSIGNED TO, SO WE'LL JUST WAIT UNTIL I GET TO ATTEND ONE AND I'LL HAVE A REPORT AT THAT TIME.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THIS EVENING.

QUOTA IS COMING UP TOMORROW AND THE HOUSING COMMISSION IS NEXT WEEK, SO I WILL BRING BACK A REPORT AFTER BOTH OF THOSE MEET. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. LAST WEEK, I DID HAVE A VIRTUAL FIRST TIME MEETING WITH THE INDIGENOUS COMMISSION, AND IT WAS MAINLY JUST INTRODUCTIONS AND IDENTIFY THAT WE DO HAVE TO OPEN SEATS NOW, SO WE'RE SEEKING TO FILL THOSE VACANCIES, AND THEN I MET SEPARATELY WITH ROSE TOEHE JUST TO GET UP TO SPEED ON WHAT THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN FOCUSING ON, WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE, AND WE SHARED SOME GREAT IDEAS AND IT WAS A GREAT FIRST MEETING.

TOMORROW IS MY FIRST TRANSPORTATION WITH NAIPTA MOUNTAIN LINE, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT MEETING AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS MR. ASLAN POINTED OUT, WE HAD A METRO PLAN MEETING ON JANUARY 5TH, AND I DID ATTEND THAT, AND THERE WASN'T A LOT OF EARTH-SHATTERING BUSINESS, IT'S MOSTLY REPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I WILL NOTE THAT THE FEBRUARY MEETING HAS BEEN CANCELED DUE TO A CONFLICT, I BELIEVE WITH A COUNCIL MEETING, THAT'S A RETREAT OR SOMETHING.

BUT ANYWAY, SO THE FEBRUARY MEETING HAS BEEN CANCELED, SO THE MARCH MEETING WILL BE A LONG ONE. WHAT ELSE? I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO APOLOGIZE, I MISSED THE E-SESSION WE HAD LAST WEEK.

I WAS TRAVELING AND I WENT UP TO SEATTLE ON PERSONAL BUSINESS AND I DIDN'T CHECK MY EMAILS LATE IN THAT THURSDAY EVENING, SO I MISSED.

ANYWAY, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. LAST WEEK, BPAC MET AND WE WENT OVER THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN.

THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT PROJECTS IN THE WORKS.

IT WAS VERY EXCITING TO HEAR WHAT YOU ALL WILL BE SEEING SOON, AND A FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR ARTISTS TO SUBMIT APPLICANTS FOR THE TRAFFIC CABINET ART WRAP INITIATIVE, AND YOU CAN GO TO FLAGSTAFF.AZ.GOV FOR MORE INFORMATION.

THE DEADLINE IS FEBRUARY 1ST ON THAT.

LET'S SEE, TOMORROW I'LL BE ATTENDING THE MOUNTAIN LINE BOARD MEETING, AND THURSDAY THERE IS A WATER COMMISSION MEETING AT

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FOUR O'CLOCK THAT I WILL NOT BE ATTENDING BECAUSE OF OUR RETREAT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> I ATTENDED THE ECONA BOARD MEETING, ECONOMIC COLLABORATIVE OF NORTHERN ARIZONA AND ALSO AS THE ALTERNATE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS ON THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COORDINATING COUNCIL.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF THESE MEETINGS COMING UP.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF OTHER THINGS HAPPENING WHERE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ATTEND ALL OF THEM, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING TO ALL OF THEM, SO THANK YOU.

>> MOVING ALONG.

BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 6, I JUST WANT TO CALL ATTENTION TO ITEMS 10C AND 10D ON OUR AGENDA, AND THOSE WILL NOT BE HEARD UNTIL AFTER 7:00 PM, AND IF WE WRAP UP THE REST OF THE AGENDA BEFORE THEN, WE WILL CALL A RECESS AND COME BACK INTO SESSION TO FINISH THOSE.

BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY WILL NOT BE DONE UNTIL AFTER 7:00. EXCUSE ME.

SORRY. I'M CHOKING ON MY WORDS HERE.

MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 6A,

[A. Consideration of Appointments: Tourism Commission. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Make three appointments to terms expiring January 2026.]

CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS, WE HAVE THREE APPOINTMENTS TO MAKE TO THE TOURISM COMMISSION.

STAFF, STACY.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL.

I'M STACY FOBAR, YOUR DEPUTY CITY CLERK.

TODAY, WE HAVE TWO COMMISSIONS UP FOR APPOINTMENT.

THE FIRST, THE TOURISM COMMISSION HAS THREE SEATS AVAILABLE FOR APPOINTMENT.

THERE ARE FIVE APPLICANTS FOR THESE SEATS.

THE SECOND COMMISSION, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS ONE SEAT AVAILABLE FOR APPOINTMENT.

COUNCIL MADE A PREVIOUS APPOINTMENT AT THE JANUARY 3RD MEETING AND POSTPONED THIS APPOINTMENT IN ORDER TO COLLECT MORE APPLICATIONS.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY FOUR APPLICATIONS AVAILABLE FOR THE ONE SEAT.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AS ARE THE STAFF LIAISONS FOR THE COMMISSION.

>> THANK YOU. SINCE I AM FIRST UP, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE REAPPOINT JENNIFER GROGAN, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.

I'M SORRY. I'VE GOT TWO LAPTOPS GOING HERE, TO THE TERM EXPIRING JANUARY 2026.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I WILL SECOND THAT.

>> THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

WELCOME BACK, JENNIFER. THE NEXT STEP, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> I THOUGHT SO. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE FOR A TERM ENDING JANUARY 2026, KAREN LAUGHLIN.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, SWEET.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES.

NEXT STEP, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

>> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MICHAEL MARQUIS, AND SORRY MICHAEL, IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR NAME.

>> WE HAVE A NOMINATION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I SECOND THAT.

>> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SECONDS.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSE?

>> AYE.

>> WELCOME, MICHAEL AND KAREN, AND WELCOME BACK JENNIFER.

NEXT STEP WE HAVE ITEM 6B PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THIS IS VICE MAYOR ASLAN.

>> YES, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PATIENCE WITH THE NOTION OF HOLDING OFF ON THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS, B AND Z IS A VERY IMPORTANT COMMISSION.

I FELT LIKE WE NEEDED A COUPLE OF MORE APPLICATIONS IN THE POOL TO CONSIDER.

WE HAVE SINCE GOTTEN A COUPLE MORE APPLICATIONS.

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I REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE WHO APPLIED.

I HOPE THAT YOU KEEP YOUR APPLICATIONS ON FILE AND IN THE MIX FOR FUTURE OPENINGS.

BUT I'M PREPARED AT THIS POINT TO NOMINATE IRON SHARP TO THE SECOND TERM EXPIRING IN DECEMBER OF 2025.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED?

>> AYE.

>> WE HAVE OUR APPOINTMENT.

NOW WE ARE MOVING DOWN TO LIQUOR LICENSE PUBLIC HEARINGS,

[A. Consideration and Action on Liquor License Application: Jeffrey Craig Miller, "B66 Brunch Brew BBQ," 409 S. San Francisco St., Series 12 (restaurant), New License. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Open the public hearing. Receive citizen input. Close the public hearing. The City Council has the option to: (1) Forward the application to the State with a recommendation for approval; (2) Forward the application to the State with a recommendation for denial based on information from staff, the testimony received at the public hearing and/or other factors.]

ITEMS 7A, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE STAFF HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND TO MAKE A LITTLE PRESENTATION.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, AND IF WE COULD DO TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PRIOR [INAUDIBLE]

>> THAT'S GREAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> IT'S HARD WHEN I CAN'T SEE.

MR. SALOMON STINKEYE.

AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL HAVE STAFF PRESENTATION AND IF THERE'S ANY CITIZEN INPUT, WE'LL TAKE THAT, AND THEN I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OFFICER SAPP, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> I'M BACK. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE IN REFERENCE TO THIS.

AGAIN, I'M SERGEANT SAPP.

I'M HERE TO JUST HELP YOU WITH ANYTHING.

I DID DO AN INVESTIGATION ON THESE FOLKS AND THERE AREN'T ANY DEROGATORY ISSUES REGARDING THOSE INVOLVED.

>> THANK YOU, AND MY APOLOGIES, SERGEANT SAPP.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? STACY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> MAYOR, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

>> THEN I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE A, STERLING, IS IT A MOTION OR IS IT JUST THE RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD THE APPLICATION TO THE STATE.

>> YES, IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE STATE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

>> THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A MOTION?

>> COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

I'LL MOVE TO MOTION TO AFFORD THE APPLICATION TO THE STATE WITH RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE, DO YOU WANT A SECOND?

>> YEAH, I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MILLER.

MOVING ON TO CONSENT ITEMS,

[8. CONSENT ITEMS All matters under Consent Agenda are considered by the City Council to be routine and will be enacted by one motion approving the recommendations listed on the agenda. Unless otherwise indicated, expenditures approved by Council are budgeted items.]

WE CAN TAKE ALL OF THESE AS ONE MOTION UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO PULL OUT A, B, OR C.

>> WE'RE NOT HEARING ANYONE WANTING TO PULL.

I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ALL OF THE CONSENT ITEMS SETS, ITEMS 8A, B, AND C.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY AND COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE OPPOSED, PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

NOW WE ARE DOWN TO ROUTINE ITEMS.

[A. Consideration and Approval of Grant Agreement: Grant Agreement between the City of Flagstaff and the Arizona Department of Forestry and Fire Management for Invasive Plant Grant (State) - Observatory Mesa Invasive Plant Prevention and Control. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve the Grant Agreement #IPG 22S-702 with the Arizona Department of Forestry and Fire Management, for Observatory Mesa Invasive Plant Prevention and Control Grant in the amount of $97,000, with a city match of $11,260 to support the maintenance of the Observatory Mesa Natural Area open space.]

ITEM NUMBER 9A, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A GRANT AGREEMENT, AND I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF.

>> HI, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I JUST PULLED UP SOME SLIDES HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE THOSE.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET IT IN PRESENTATION MODE HERE FOR YOU.

THERE WE GO. I'M ROBERT WALLACE.

I AM WITH THE OPEN SPACE PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

IT'S REALLY GREAT TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO SHARE SOME GOOD NEWS WITH YOU.

I'M HERE TODAY SEEKING AN APPROVAL OF A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OF ARIZONA, THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY AND FIRE MANAGEMENT.

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THIS GRANT WILL ENABLE US TO ACCEPT FUNDS TO COMPLETE INVASIVE PLANT MITIGATION AND RESTORATION WORK IN THE OBSERVATORY MESA NATURAL AREA.

BEFORE I GET INTO THE GRANT SPECIFICS, I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE NICE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT AFTER COMPLETING A STANDARD RECRUITMENT THE OPEN SPACE TEAM IS NOW A PERMANENT TEAM OF TWO.

MY ROLE IS THE OPEN SPACE SUPERVISOR AND THE OPEN SPACE COORDINATOR POSITION MISS SYLVIA STRAUS WAS RECENTLY HIRED TO FILL THAT POSITION AND SHE STARTED ON THE 9TH OF JANUARY, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HER ON BOARD.

WE ALSO ARE IN THE FINAL STEPS OF HIRING A ONE YEAR TEMPORARY GRANT FUNDED POSITION THAT WILL FOCUS ON ENVIRONMENTAL STEAM EDUCATION FOR FLAGSTAFF'S YOUTH.

THIS POSITION WILL PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR UNDER PRIVILEGED YOUTH IN THE FORM OF EDUCATIONAL FIELD TRIPS TO OUR CITIES, OPEN SPACE PROPERTIES.

MISS. SARAH HOLDICH, WHO IS SELECTED FOR THE POSITION IS SCHEDULED TO START WORK ON JANUARY 23RD, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WELCOME HER AS PART OF TEAM FLAGSTAFF.

THESE ADDITIONS IN STAFF COME AT A GREAT TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT TO DO AS WE MOVE INTO THE NEW YEAR.

ONE OF OUR NEW PROJECTS WITH YOUR APPROVAL IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS INVASIVE PLANT GRANT FOR OBSERVATORY MESA.

THE OPEN SPACE PROGRAM MANAGES 3,000 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.

THE OBSERVATORY MESA NATURAL AREAS, THE LARGEST REGIONAL PRESERVE AT 2,200 ACRES.

LAST YEAR, WE WORKED WITH MARIPOSA ECOLOGICAL AND BOTANICAL CONSULTANT TO COMPLETE A THOROUGH INVASIVE WEED SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY.

IT'S THAT SURVEY THAT HAS ENABLED US TO APPLY AND QUALIFY FOR THE STATES INVASIVE PLANT GRANT PROGRAM.

THE GENERAL LOCATION THERE THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE MAP IS JUST TO THE WEST OF THORPE PARK, THE FOUR PARCELS THERE THAT MAKE UP THE OBSERVATORY MESA.

EACH OF THE DIFFERENT COLORS, GREEN, BLUE, AND OTHER COLORED POLYGONS, REPRESENT THE WEED INFESTATIONS THAT WERE MAPPED THROUGHOUT THE PRESERVE.

I'LL PAUSE HERE JUST FOR A SECOND BECAUSE I HOPE TO PREVENT ANY CONFUSION BY SHARING THAT THIS GRANT AGREEMENT IS PART 1 OF A TWO PART PROJECT.

THIS AGREEMENT IS A STATE GRANT THAT WILL FUND PART 1 OF THE PROJECT AT $108,260 AND THE SECOND PORTION OF THE PROJECT WILL BE FUNDED BY A BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW, FEDERAL FUNDS WITH AN ADDITIONAL $11,500.

IN THIS SECOND FEDERAL GRANT AGREEMENT THAT I SPEAK OF WILL LIKELY BE BROUGHT TO COUNSEL IN FEBRUARY, OR EARLY MARCH FOR YOUR REVIEW.

WHAT WILL THIS STATE GRANT ACHIEVE? IT FOCUSES ON THE TWO ADJOINING LOCATIONS, OBSERVATORY MESA, AND THEN THORPE PARK, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO OUR MITIGATING BEADS FOR APPROXIMATELY 74 ACRES FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD.

TREATMENT WILL INCLUDE SCOTCH THISTLE, BOTH THISTLE, MUSK THISTLE, DIFFUSE NAP WEED, FIELD BIND WEED AS WELL AS SOME OTHERS.

IT WILL ALSO LOOK AT RE- VEGETATING 31 ACRES WITH NATIVE SPECIES INCLUDING BLUE GRAMA, SQUIRREL TAIL, ARIZONA FESCUE, AND MUTTON GRASS, AMONG OTHER NATIVE SPECIES.

IT WILL PARTNER WITH NEIGHBORING LAND MANAGERS FROM THE FOREST SERVICE AND LOWELL OBSERVATORY, AND IT WILL RECRUIT VOLUNTEERS FOR MAINTAINING WEEDS AND FOR MONITORING AS WELL.

IT ALSO COMPLETE COMMUNITY EDUCATION IN THE FORM OF WEED WORKSHOPS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC.

WHAT IS THE CITY AGREEING TO? WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR COMPLETING THE ASSIGNED GRANT AGREEMENT THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR YOUR REVIEW.

WE WILL CONTRIBUTE $11,260 FOR MATCH.

THIS INCLUDES AN OPEN SPACE BASED BUDGET ALLOCATION OF 2,500 IN KIND CASH MATCH IN A VOLUNTEER TIME IN KIND MATCH OF $8,760 THAT OUR PROGRAM WILL ORGANIZE.

THIS WILL BRING THE TOTAL PROJECT COST OF THE PART 1 TO $108,260.

WE WILL SUBMIT A DETAILED STATUS QUARTERLY REPORTS THROUGHOUT THE GRANT PERIOD, AND WE WILL SUBMIT THE PROJECT DELIVERABLES AS WELL.

EXCEPT IT AS A SUPPORT CITY GOALS, IT HELPS US MAINTAIN AND EXPAND SERVICE LEVELS FOR THE OPEN SPACE.

IT DOES SUPPORT OUR SECTION GOALS, MAINTAINING AND RESTORING, ENHANCING OUR NATURAL ECOSYSTEM, PROTECTING DIVERSE, HEALTHY WILDLIFE POPULATIONS, MAINTAINING AND DEVELOPING PARTNERSHIPS, PROVIDING COMMUNITY EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND SECURING FUNDS THROUGH GRANTS.

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WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT SUPPORTS ALL SEVEN OF THE PDB PRIORITIES AND IT CONTRIBUTES TO CARBON NEUTRALITY PLANS STRATEGIES AS WELL.

THE TWO OPTIONS THAT I HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING IS TO APPROVE THE GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY AND FIRE MANAGEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $97,000, WITH THE CITY MATCH OF $11,260 TO SUPPORT THE MANAGEMENT OF THE OBSERVATORY MESA NATURAL AREA.

FOR OPTION TWO, TO NOT APPROVE, THUS DECLINING THE GRANT FUNDS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION AND INTERESTS.

IN SUMMARY, THIS GRANT AGREEMENT IS THE PART 1 PART TWO PROJECTS, AND I HOPE TO BE BACK HERE IN FRONT OF YOU IN FEBRUARY TO INFORM YOU ABOUT THAT SECOND SUCCESSFUL GRANT AGREEMENT.

THANKS AGAIN, AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTERS.

I'LL GO STRAIGHT INTO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I SEE THE COUNCIL, MEMBER HOUSE HAS A COMMENT AND EMOTION WHEN APPROPRIATE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND THANK YOU ROBERT, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THIS IS REALLY EXCITING.

JUST GETTING TO WORK WITH THE OPEN SPACES COMMISSION FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, I KNOW THAT THIS IS REALLY ADVANCING SOME GOOD WORK THAT GROUP HAS BEEN WORKING ON AND DEFINITELY ADVANCING SOME MAJOR INITIATIVES FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF PRESERVING OPEN SPACE, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF TOUCHING ON SOME OF OUR OTHER PRIORITIES AS WELL.

I WILL LEAVE MY COMMENTS AT THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I SEE THAT THERE MAY BE OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS I WILL HOLD FOR THOSE. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS HAS A QUESTION.

>> YES. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON WHY YOU IDENTIFIED UNDERPRIVILEGED STUDENTS TO TAKE FIELD TRIPS TO THIS PARTICULAR SPACE? NOT JUST STUDENTS IN GENERAL.

>> WE HAVE EDUCATIONAL GOAL AND PROGRAM THAT'S PART OF OUR MISSION CALLED THE INDIGENOUS YOUTH STEM ACADEMY.

IT WAS FIRST INITIATED TO WORK WITH INDIGENOUS YOUTH TO GET THEM INTERESTED IN THE OUTDOORS AND PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT STEAM-TYPE CAREERS.

IT'S A CONTINUATION OF THAT EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING THAT WILL BE WORKING ON.

>> THEN ARE YOU JUST IDENTIFYING INDIGENOUS YOUTH? ARE YOU IDENTIFYING ANY UNDERPRIVILEGED, ANY STUDENT THAT FITS THAT UNDERPRIVILEGED CATEGORY, HOWEVER, YOU'RE DEFINING THAT.

>> THE WORK INCLUDES UNDERPRIVILEGED WITH A FOCUS ON INDIGENOUS YOUTH.

BUT WE WILL BE WORKING WITH SPECIFIC SCHOOLS THAT ARE TITLE I SCHOOLS WITH THE TEMPORARY ONE YEAR POSITION.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

>> CORRECT. THEN THEREFORE ANY STUDENT THAT'S IN THE TITLE I SCHOOL WOULD BE ABLE TO GO ON THESE FIELD TRIPS. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM.

WE HAVE A PRETTY LIMITED CAPACITY, SO WE RELY ON EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS WE WORK WITH WILLA BEN ENVIRONMENTAL CENTER.

THEY DO PROVIDE WITH SOME FUNDING FROM OUR PROGRAM AND FUNDING FROM OTHER SOURCES AS WELL.

THEY PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERY THIRD GRADE STUDENT TO VISIT OPEN SPACE PROPERTY.

WITH THIS TEMPORARY POSITION, WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT TO INCLUDE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AS WELL.

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE UNLIMITED CAPACITY, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO OFFER THAT TO ALL GRADES, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY TO OFFER THAT TO AS MANY GRADES WE POSSIBLY CAN.

THEN OF COURSE, OUR OPEN SPACE IS OPEN FOR USE IN GENERAL AS WELL FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC SO FAMILIES AND STUDENTS WANT TO GO UP IN THEIR OWN THEY CERTAINLY CAN.

>> BUT YOU'RE NOT REALLY ANSWERING MY QUESTION.

MAYBE WE'RE MISUNDERSTANDING EACH OTHER.

I GUESS MAYBE I CAN ASK THIS ANOTHER WAY.

HOW ARE YOU IDENTIFY UNDERPRIVILEGED STUDENTS TO GO ON THESE FIELD TRIPS?

>> WE ARE PARTNERING WITH TITLE I SCHOOLS TO HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF INDIGENOUS YOUTH.

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>> ONCE YOU IDENTIFY THAT SCHOOL, THEN WE'VE GOT COUPLE HUNDRED KIDS IN EACH SCHOOL.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO IDENTIFY THE STUDENT, THE SPECIFIC STUDENTS SINCE YOU CAN TAKE ALL OF THEM? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PULL OUT?

>> WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH A SPECIFIC GRADE.

FOR INSTANCE, WE PARTNERED WITH THE MEMS AND WE PROVIDED ALL OF THE FIFTH GRADES WITH THE OPTION OF PROVIDING EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING IN A FIELD TRIP.

EVERYBODY IN THAT FIFTH GRADE WOULD BE OFFERED A FIELD TRIP TO ONE OF OUR OPEN SPACE PROPERTIES.

WE INTEND TO EXPAND THAT INTO HIGH SCHOOL IN THAT SAME WAY.

>> THAT'S THE QUESTION I WAS TRYING TO GET. THANK YOU.

>> THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR QUESTION THEN YOUR PATIENCE I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ROBERT.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT YOU ALL AND SUSTAINABILITY HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF WEED ERADICATION AROUND THE COMMUNITY AND WITH EDUCATION, AND THAT ALSO EXCITES ME ABOUT THIS PROJECT TO HELP PEOPLE TO IDENTIFY PLANTS WITHIN THEIR OWN SURROUNDINGS THAT MAYBE WE WANT TO HAVE FEWER OF THOSE WEEDS AND MORE OF THE NATIVE GRASSES AND FLOWERS.

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THIS WORK.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE GRANT AGREEMENT NUMBER IPG22S-702 WITH THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY AND FIRE MANAGEMENT FOR OBSERVATORY MESA INVASIVE PLANT PREVENTION AND CONTROL GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $97,000 WITH A CITY MATCH OF $11,260 TO SUPPORT THE MAINTENANCE OF THE OBSERVATORY MESA NATURAL AREA OPEN SPACE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SUITE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO OPEN SPACE STAFF.

NEXT UP, WE HAVE ITEM 9B CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF PARKING DEMAND STUDY.

[B. Consideration and Approval of Parking Demand Study: Request by the Holy Trinity Catholic Newman Center to approve a Parking Demand Study for a new place of worship building at 520 W. Riordan Rd., subject to the issuance of a Conditional Use Permit. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve the parking demand study with the following conditions: The Newman Center shall work with NAU to secure additional parking spaces on NAU property to account for increases in the size of the congregation in the larger Newman Center building and associated increases in parking demand. The Newman Center shall provide a pedestrian path per City of Flagstaff Zoning Code section 10-30.60.080.A. that connects to the existing pedestrian path located on the adjacent property to the west at 910 S. Milton Rd. (APN 103-04-005B). The Newman Center shall provide a minimum of 12 bicycle parking spaces, as shown on the Concept Plan that city staff deemed Complete with Conditions on November 17, 2022.]

THIS IS A REQUEST BY THE HOLY TRINITY CATHOLIC NEWMAN CENTER TO APPROVE A PARKING DEMAND STUDY FOR A NEW PLACE OF WORSHIP BUILDING AT 520 WEST RIORDAN ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

STAFF, DO WE HAVE?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL GENEVIEVE PERRYTHREE SENIOR PLANNER IN THE CURRENT PLANNING SECTION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION.

I WILL TURN MY CAMERA OFF WHILE I'M PRESENTING.

I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.

I SHARE MY SCREEN.

AGAIN, SO NEWMAN CENTER PARKING DEMAND STUDY.

BEFORE I GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY REQUEST, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WHY YOU'RE SEEING THIS ITEM TODAY.

THE ZONING CODE DOES HAVE A PROVISION TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT APPLICANTS TO REQUEST A REDUCTION FROM THE STANDARD MINIMUM REQUIRED PARKING.

BUT TO DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT A PARKING DEMAND STUDY.

THE STUDY OR PLAN MUST BE PREPARED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ESTABLISHED PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC AND PARKING PRACTICES.

THEY MUST BE PREPARED BY REGISTERING WHO IS LICENSED TO PRACTICE IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

THEN THEY MUST ALSO DOCUMENT HOW ANY REDUCTIONS ARE CALCULATED AND WHAT ASSUMPTIONS THAT THEY UTILIZED IN THE CALCULATIONS.

ANY REQUEST THAT ASKS TO REDUCE PARKING MORE THAN 30 PERCENT OF WHAT THE STANDARD REQUIREMENT IS IN THE ZONING CODE DOES REQUIRE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCILS.

THAT IS WHY I'M HERE TODAY.

THE HOLY TRINITY CATHOLIC NEWMAN CENTER DID PREPARE A PARKING DEMAND STUDY PER THE ZONING CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT I JUST MENTIONED.

THEY ARE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED PARKING FROM 73 SPACES TO 45 SPACES, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 38 PERCENT REDUCTION.

AGAIN THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

AS YOU SAW IN THE ATTACHED PARKING DEMAND STUDY AND STAFF REPORT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ITEM, THE NEWMAN CENTER PROPOSES TO MANAGE PARKING DEMAND IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS,

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WHICH I'LL DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.

THE PHRENOLOGISTS MENTIONED THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT WALKING AND BIKING, CARPOOLING, HAVING ATTENDEES USING THEIR OWN ANY NEW PARKING PASSES, HAVING AN AGREEMENT WITH NAU TO PROVIDE 20 PARKING SPACES ON SUNDAYS IN ADJACENT NAU PARKING LOTS, AND THEN PURCHASING ADDITIONAL DAILY NAU PARKING PASSES AS NEEDED.

I MENTIONED NAU SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE THE NEWMAN CENTER IS RIGHT NEXT TO NAU, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT, AS WELL AS NEXT TO NAU BUILDING AND THERE ARE A LOT OF NAU PARKING LOTS AROUND THE NEWMAN CENTER.

THIS BASICALLY THE PREMISE OF THE PARKING DEMAND STUDIES THAT A LOT OF THE ATTENDEES ARE NAU STUDENTS WHO EITHER HAVE PARKING PASSES OR WHO WALK OR BIKE, THEREFORE THE ON-SITE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IS LESS THAN A TYPICAL PLACE OF WORSHIP.

BUT I'LL GO INTO THAT IN MORE DETAIL THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION.

JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

THERE ISN'T EXISTING 9,800-SQUARE-FOOT NEWMAN'S CENTER BUILDING.

THE NEWMAN CENTER PROPOSES TO DEMOLISH THAT BUILDING AND CONSTRUCT AN APPROXIMATELY 25,500-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING THAT WILL CONTAIN A SANCTUARY, STUDENT CENTER RECTORY, AND ASSEMBLY HALL.

THE US IS A PLACE OF WORSHIP AND THAT IS ALLOWED IN HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE, WHICH IS THE ZONING THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS, BUT THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BECAUSE IT WILL EXCEED 250 SEATS.

CITY STAFF REVIEWED AND ACCEPTED A CONCEPT PLAN APPLICATION FOR THE NEW BUILDING ON NOVEMBER 17TH, 2022.

THE SANCTUARY WOULD HOLD UP TO 413 PEOPLE.

THE PLACE OF WORSHIP IN THE ZONING CODE REQUIRES ONE PARKING SPACE PER 60 SQUARE FEET OF SANCTUARY AREA.

THE PROPOSED SANCTUARY IS ABOUT 4,300 SQUARE FEET, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE 73 SPACES.

I WILL NOTE THAT THE NEWMAN CENTER HAS INDICATED THEY MADE IN THEIR NEXT SITE PLANS, THE MIDDLE, WHICH IS THE STEP AFTER THIS ONE, THEY MAY REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, BUT THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY WAS BASED ON THIS SIZE.

WE'RE GOING WITH THAT. THEY WOULD STILL NEED A DEMANDS STUDY ANYWAY.

THE OUTER PART IS 73 SPACES AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR 45 AT THIS TIME.

HERE'S THE SITE LAYOUT AND CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN THAT STAFF REVIEWED.

I'M SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED PARKING AND AGAIN, THIS IS AT 520 WEST RIORDAN ROAD.

THESE ARE THE CONCEPTUAL BUILDING FLOOR PLANS.

THESE WILL BE FORMALLY REVIEWED WITH THE NEXT SENTIMENTAL SO AGAIN, THAT SITE PLAN, THAT'S THE FORMAL SUBMITTAL WHERE WE REALLY GET INTO THE DETAILS FOR A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL.

WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS CONCEPTUAL.

THIS IS THE FIRST FLOOR SHOWING THE SANCTUARY AND THEN OTHER ACCESSORY USES IN THE BUILDING, THE ASSEMBLY HALL, KITCHEN, RECTORY, ETC.

THEN THIS IS THE SECOND FLOOR SHOWING THE CHOIR LOFT AND OFFICE SPACE.

FOR THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY, THE NEWMAN CENTER COLLECTED QUITE A BIT OF DATA TO SERVE AS A BASIS OF THIS STUDY.

THE NEWMAN CENTER SURVEYED ITS CONGREGATION TO DETERMINE HOW PEOPLE ACTUALLY ATTEND THE NEWMAN CENTER.

HOW THEY TRAVEL TO GET THERE, WHETHER THEY'RE STUDENTS OR NON-STUDENTS AS WELL.

THE NEWMAN CENTER ALSO COUNTED ATTENDANCE AT SUNDAY MASS IN THE EXISTING NEWMAN CENTER BUILDING, AND THEY HAVE DATA FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS FOR THAT.

PRETTY LONG TIMELINE.

THEY ALSO ANALYZED REQUIRED PARKING SPACES.

SEVENTY THREE WOULD BE THE BASE MINIMUM FOR THE STANDARD ZONING CODE REQUIREMENTS COMPARED TO THE RATIO OF STUDENTS VERSUS NON-STUDENTS, AND HOW EACH GROUP GETS TO THE NEWMAN CENTER.

THE PARKING DEMANDS STUDY IDENTIFIED 10 DISTINCT TRANSPORTATION GROUPS.

THE FIRST TWO SETS OF GROUPS ARE STUDENTS AND NON-STUDENTS WHO WALK OR BIKE.

THEN WE HAVE STUDENTS AND NON-STUDENTS WHO CARPOOL BUT HAVING AN NAU PARKING PASS.

THEN THERE ARE STUDENTS AND NON-STUDENT WHO CARPOOL BUT DO NOT HAVE A PARKING PASS, THE NAU.

THEN THERE ARE STUDENTS AND NON-STUDENTS WHO DRIVE ALONE BUT HAVE AN NAU PARKING PASS.

THEN THE LAST SET OF GROUPS ARE STUDENTS AND NON-STUDENTS WHO DRIVE ALONE, BUT DO NOT HAVE AN NAU PARKING PASS.

ONLY THE TWO LINES THAT HAVE AN ASTERIS.

THERE ARE STUDENTS AND NON-STUDENTS WHO DRIVE BUT DO NOT HAVE AN NAU PARKING PASS.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY GROUPS WHO ACTUALLY NEED ON-SITE PARKING.

ALL THE OTHER GROUPS WILL EITHER GET TO THE NEWMAN CENTER THROUGH WALKING AND BIKING OR DRIVING, EITHER ALONE OR CARPOOLING, BUT WITHIN AN NAU PARKING PASS WHICH THEY CAN USE ON THE ADJACENT NAU BLOCKS AND DO NOT NEED TO PARK IN THE NEWMAN CENTER.

THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY FOUND THAT 31 PARKING SPACES ARE NEEDED WHEN NAU IS IN SESSION, AND THAT 44 ARE NEEDED WHEN NAU IS NOT IN SESSION.

THE PARKING DEMAND STATES THAT MORE PARKING IS NEEDED WHEN NAU IS NOT IN SESSION.

THAT'S EITHER IN THE SUMMERTIME OR OVER WINTER BREAK,

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BECAUSE THE PROPORTION OF NON-STUDENTS GOES UP, AND MORE NON-STUDENTS DON'T HAVE NAU PARKING PASSES.

THERE'S A GREATER ON-SITE PARKING DEMAND WHEN NAU IS NOT IN SESSION.

THEY FOUND THAT WHEN NAU IS IN SESSION, ALMOST 60 PERCENT OF ATTENDEES WERE STUDENTS, VERSUS ABOUT 20 PERCENT WHEN NAU IS NOT IN SESSION.

THAT'S BASED ON THE DATA THAT THE NEWMAN CENTER COLLECTED.

THIS IS HOW THE TRANSPORTATION MODES BREAKDOWN WHEN NAU IS IN SESSION.

I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THERE'S 10 THAT ARE ASSUMING THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY IDENTIFIED 10 DISTINCT GROUPS, AND ONLY FOUR OF THOSE GROUPS WOULD REQUIRE ON-SITE PARKING.

THOSE ARE THE GROUPS IN RED.

ANYONE WHO DRIVES EITHER CARPOOLS OR DRIVES ALONE IS A STUDENT OR NON-STUDENT AND DOES NOT HAVE IN NAU PARKING PASS.

THIS IS WHEN NAU IS IN SESSION AND WHEN NAU IS NOT IN SESSION WE CAN SEE ESPECIALLY THAT NON-STUDENTS WHO CARPOOL WITH NO PARKING PASS IN PARTICULAR GOES UP.

THAT IT COINCIDES WITH THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY, FINDING THAT SLIGHTLY MORE ON-SITE PARKING IS NEEDED WHEN NAU IS NOT IN SESSION VERSUS WHEN IT IS IN SESSION.

I'M LOOKING AT THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY AND THE DATA THAT THE NEWMAN CENTER SUPPLIED AS THE BASIS FOR THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY.

STAFF ALSO LOOKED AT THE AVERAGE ATTENDANCE IN THE CURRENT BUILDING AND HOW MUCH PARKING IS NEEDED, AND THEN PROJECTED THAT FOR THE NEW BUILDING.

WHEN NAU IS IN SESSION AND WHEN NAU IS NOT IN SESSION, THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES ACROSS THE TWO-YEAR PERIOD IS ABOUT 27 PERCENT CAPACITY.

IN THE EXISTING BUILDING, THAT EQUATES TO 32 PARKING DEMAND SPACES BEING, EXCUSE ME, 32 PARKING SPACES BEING NEEDED.

THE NEW BUILDING WILL HOUSE ABOUT 27 PERCENT MORE ATTENDEES IN THE SANCTUARY.

IF YOU INCREASE THAT NUMBER BY 27 PERCENT, THE AVERAGE PARKING DEMAND FOR THE NEW BUILDING WOULD BE 41 SPACES BOTH WHEN NAU IS IN SESSION AND OUT OF SESSION.

THAT'S STILL BELOW THE 45 ON-SITE SPACES THAT THE NEWMAN CENTER IS PROPOSING.

AS I MENTIONED, THE NEWMAN CENTER PROPOSES TO MANAGE ON-SITE PARKING THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT STRATEGIES, SINCE THEY ONLY HAVE 45 ON-SITE SPACES.

THEY'RE ALSO WORKING WITH NAU TO DRAFT AN AGREEMENT TO HAVE 20 SUNDAY PARKING PASSES BE AVAILABLE EVERY SUNDAY FOR, I BELIEVE FIVE YEARS IS WHAT THE DURATION OF THE CURRENT AGREEMENT SAYS.

THAT WOULD ALLOW PARISHIONERS TO BE ABLE TO PARK ON THE SLOTS.

I BELIEVE THE NEWMAN CENTER CURRENTLY DOES THIS, BUT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL DAILY NAU PARKING PASSES AS NEEDED TO ALLOW ANYONE WHO DRIVES AND NEEDS MORE PARKING TO BE ABLE TO PARK IN NAU.

I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THAT GOOD PERCENTAGE OF THE CONGREGATION WALKS OR BIKES, ALSO CARPOOLS QUITE A BIT, THE CONGREGATION CARPOOLS PER THAT PARKING DEMANDS STUDY.

THEN A LOT OF ATTENDEES ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN NAU PARKING PASSES TO PARK NEARBY.

IN TERMS OF IMPROVING OR MAKING A DECISION ABOUT THIS PARKING DEMAND STUDY, COUNCIL HAS THREE OPTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE IS THAT CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY WITH CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

OPTION TWO IS CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY WITH ADDITIONAL OR MODIFIED CONDITIONS.

OPTION 3 IS THAT CITY COUNCIL MAY DENY THE PARKING DEMAND SETTING.

STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

NUMBER 1, THAT THE NEWMAN CENTER SHALL WORK WITH NAU TO SECURE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES ON NAU PROPERTY TO ACCOUNT FOR INCREASES IN THE SIZE OF THE CONGREGATION IN THE LARGER NEWMAN CENTER BUILDING, AND ASSOCIATED INCREASES IN PARKING DEMAND.

NUMBER 2, THAT THE NEWMAN CENTER SHALL PROVIDE A PEDESTRIAN PATH PER CITY OF FLAGSTAFF ZONING CODE, SECTION 10 DASH 30 DOT 60 DOT 80 DOT A, THAT CONNECTS TO THE EXISTING PEDESTRIAN PATH LOCATED ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE WEST AT 910 SOUTH MILTON ROAD.

NUMBER 3, THAT THE NEWMAN CENTER SHALL PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF 12 BICYCLE PARKING SPACES AS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN THE CITY STAFF DEEMED TO BE COMPLETE WITH CONDITIONS ON NOVEMBER 17TH, 2022.

THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE FOR MY PRESENTATION.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE OUR REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE NEWMAN CENTER HERE, ALSO REPRESENTATIVES FROM CIVIL TECH WHO PREPARED THE PARKING DEMAND CITIES.

IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, THEY ARE ALSO AVAILABLE.

BUT I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AS STAFF. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH GENEVIEVE.

STACY, WERE YOU ABLE TO GET THE PUBLIC COMMENTER? YES, ONE COMMENT. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE, BUT WE'LL HOLD OFF ON DISCUSSION IF WE COULD UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC COMMENTER.

FIRST WE HAD VICE MAYOR ASLAN HAD A QUESTION.

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MAYOR AND THANK YOU GENEVIEVE.

MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, DO WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE NEWMAN CENTER PRESENT? IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SAID, YES.

IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO COME ON, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS THEM PERSONALLY AND ASK A QUESTION.

FATHER MATT, GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS AFTERNOON.

>> HELLO, CITY COUNCIL. NICE TO BE WITH YOU.

>> MY QUESTION FOR YOU, FIRST OF ALL, MY COMMENT IS, I'M GLAD WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS.

I HOPE COUNCIL WILL BE AMENABLE TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

I THINK WE SHOULD BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE PARKING AROUND THE CITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

I'LL SPEAK MORE TO THAT DURING OUR DISCUSSION PHASE.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FOURTH.

I WONDERED IF YOU WANTED TO COMMENT PERSONALLY, FATHER MATT, ON ANY OF THE PARKING CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE HAD OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS OVER AT THE NEWMAN CENTER.

THEN MY QUESTION FOR YOU, IT'S ABOUT THE BUILDING ITSELF AND THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

WONDERING IF ANY PART OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING IS GOING TO STAY INTACT OR IF IT'S GOING TO BE A TOTAL DEMO AND REBUILD.

I DO SEE SOME HISTORICAL VALUE TO THE ORIGINAL BUILDING STRUCTURE THERE, AND JUST CURIOUS IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SHARE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

>> GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU.

WE'RE FINALIZING OUR ARCHITECTURAL PLANS AND THERE'S SOME PILLARS AND WHATNOT THAT ARE MADE OF LOGS AND TREES THAT REALLY RESONATE WITH FLAGSTAFF.

WE'RE HOPING TO EMULATE SOME OF THAT IN THE NEW BUILDING, AS WELL AS A SOLID BRICK CONSTRUCTION WITH THE NEW DESIGN.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S A LOT OF ENCAPSULATED ASBESTOS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.

IT WAS BUILT IN 1967.

PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO WANT TO TAKE PART OF THAT WITH THEM BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL MEMORIES.

THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY THERE OVER THE LAST 55 PLUS YEARS.

WE WERE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO DO THAT, BUT IN A WAY THAT WE CAN.

IT HAS TO DO WITH THE BUILDING AND THE CONSTRUCTION.

OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH NAU HAS BEEN VERY GOOD OVER THE YEARS.

AT DIFFERENT TIMES THERE MIGHT BE A NEED OR A CONVERSATION ON PARKING.

WE'LL EMAIL PARKING SERVICES AND THEY SAY, HEY, HOW MANY SPACES DO YOU NEED? WE'RE LIKE, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT WE GO OVER TO THE KIOSK AND GET A FEW PARKING PERMITS, AND WE'RE ABLE TO USE THAT.

IT'S BEEN A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OUR BIGGEST DEMAND IS ON SUNDAY WHEN THE LARGE PARKING LOT BEHIND KLEIN LIBRARY IS VIRTUALLY EMPTY.

IT'S BEEN A NICE COLLABORATIVE TO USE THAT PARKING AS NEEDED.

>> THANK YOU FATHER MATT. MAYOR I'LL HOLD OFF ON MY COMMENTS UNTIL AFTER WE'VE HAD PUBLIC INPUT.

>> THANKS VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR NOW AND THEN I MAY HAVE SOME MORE AS WE GO INTO THE CONVERSATION.

BUT I'M JUST WONDERING HOW MUCH PARKING IS AT THE CURRENT BUILDING AS IT IS NOW? ARE WE LOOKING AT AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SPACES THAT CURRENTLY EXIST OR JUST LOOKING TO NOT HAVE TO INCREASE THEM?

>> I CAN ADDRESS THAT.

OUR CURRENT FACILITY HAS 62 SPACES, AND OF THOSE 62, WE ACTUALLY SELL 45 PERMITS TO NAU STUDENTS.

WE USE IT AS A MONEYMAKER THAT WE FOUND THAT WE DON'T NEED ALL THE PARKING THAT WE HAVE.

IT'S A REVENUE SOURCE THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE AS MUCH IN THE FUTURE.

WE'VE GONE FROM 62 DOWN TO 45.

WE COULD STILL SELL SOME SPACES IF WE NEEDED TO OR WANTED TO, BUT THAT COULD ACTUALLY JUST GIVE US MORE PARKING THAN WE NEED.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

STACY, DO YOU STILL HAVE THE COMMENTER ON THE LINE?

>> YES, MAYOR, WE DO.

TYLER DENIM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE, YOU CAN OFFER YOUR COMMENTS TO COUNCIL NOW.

>> HI. THANK YOU, STACY.

I'M A COUNCIL MEMBER [INAUDIBLE] THAT I HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH THE NEWMAN CENTER.

I'M CALLING IN TODAY TO NOTE WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE PEOPLE WHO PREPARED IT, THAT THIS STUDY IS OUT OF SYNC WITH MANY OF THE CITY'S OTHER GOALS.

THE STUDY ASSUMES THAT PARKING DEMAND IS A FIXED VALUE, BUT THAT'S NOT REMOTELY TRUE.

THE MIX OF TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS THAT VISITOR US TO THE NEWMAN CENTER TAKE, IS ITSELF A FUNCTION OF THE SUPPLIER.

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AS THE NEWMAN CENTER BUILDS A LOT OF PARKING SUCH AS DRIVING ALONE IS CONVENIENT, MORE VISITORS WILL DRIVE.

IF THEY BUILD LESS PARKING, SUCH THAT DRIVING ALONE IS INCONVENIENT, MORE VISITORS WILL CARPOOL, WALK, BIKE, AND TAKE THE BUS.

THERE ARE MANY CITY DOCUMENTS LIKE THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, EVEN THE TENURE HOUSING PLAN, AND I'VE HEARD THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE TALK ABOUT THIS OFTEN, THAT ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FLEXIBILITY AND EXPLICITLY STATE THAT MORE CARPOOLING, WALKING, AND BUS RIDERSHIP ARE CITY GOALS, WHICH IS WHY I SAY THAT THIS STUDY IS OUT OF SYNC WITH OTHER CITY GOALS.

WHILE ON THE TOPIC, WHY IS THE CITY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS AT ALL? IF THE NEWMAN CENTER BUILD AN INADEQUATE AMOUNT OF PARKING SUCH THAT IT BECOMES TOO WAY INCONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE TO VISIT AND THEY START LOSING VISITORS, HOW'S THAT ANYONE'S PROBLEM BUT THE NEWMAN CENTER? THE CORE LOCATION ISN'T THE RESIDENCE, [INAUDIBLE] THE DANGER OF OVERFLOW PARKING ANNOYING RESIDENTS.

EVEN IF IT WAS, THE REAL PROBLEM WOULD BE UNREGULATED STREET PARKING NOT THE NEWMAN CENTER.

ASIDE FROM ACQUIRING SOME ADA ACCESSIBLE SPACES, WHY DOES THE CITY NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED IN THE MINUTIAE OF HOW THE NEWMAN CENTER MANAGES ITS PARKING DEMAND? IT SEEMS TO HAVE ALREADY HIT UPON AN EASY OBVIOUS SOLUTION PURCHASING PARKING PARTS.

THERE ARE SOME INADEQUATE PARKING.

I IMAGINE TRYING TO INTERVENE ON THEIR BEHALF.

NOW, I DON'T EXPECT YOU GUYS TO HAVE A LONG INVOLVED DISCUSSION ON PARKING BECAUSE THE SCOPE OF THIS AGENDA IS VERY NARROW, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE IT'S FRUSTRATING TO WATCH THE CITY CARRY ON WITH AN APPROACH THAT IT'S ALREADY DECLARED MISGUIDED IN A BUNCH OF OTHER CITY DOCUMENT.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, TYLER.

I ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT AND STUDY OF NOT ONLY OUR AGENDAS, BUT ALSO ALL OF OUR PLANS.

YOU'RE EXTREMELY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE CITY, SO THANK YOU.

DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS? VICE MAYOR, ASLAN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING?

>> I DO, YEAH.

THANK YOU, TYLER.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING ON AND VOICING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I HAPPEN TO SHARE THEM.

I WANT TO START OFF BY CONTEXTUALLY JUST ADMITTING THAT I AM A NEWMAN CENTER PRODUCT.

I CAME UP THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA, THE DOMINICAN NEWMAN CENTER THERE, WHERE I WAS THE SOCIAL JUSTICE MINISTER FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND ALSO THE STUDENT ACTIVITY COORDINATOR.

I WAS MARRIED AT THE NEWMAN CENTER AND BOTH OF MY SISTER-IN-LAW AND BROTHER-IN-LAW HAD THEIR MARRIAGES CONDUCTED AT NEWMAN CENTERS, ONE IN ASU, AND MOST RECENTLY, STILL ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, MY SISTER-IN-LAW, ESTHER ELLSWORTH BOWERS AND HER HUSBAND WERE MARRIED AT THE NEWMAN CENTER IN FLAGSTAFF, THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I WAS THERE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO FOR CHRISTMAS FEST.

I DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH FINDING PARKING WHATSOEVER EVEN ON CHRISTMAS DAY.

I HIGHLY VALUE THE RESOURCE THAT THE NEWMAN CENTER PROVIDES FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SENSIBILITY THAT IT IS COMING TO THE CITY WITH IN TERMS OF REDUCING PARKING EVEN THOUGH IT COULD BE A LOSS OF REVENUE FOR THEM.

I VERY MUCH ENJOYED TAKING ADVANTAGE OF NEWMAN CENTER PARKING PERMIT WHEN I WAS A STUDENT AT U OF A.

IT WAS A GREAT GREAT ASSET FOR ME AS AN UNDERGRAD.

I IMAGINE THE STUDENTS WHO UTILIZE THOSE PARKING PERMITS HERE ON THE NAU CAMPUS, GET A LOT OF VALUE OUT OF THAT TOO.

THIS IS A FAIRLY SPECIFIC ITEM BUT CONTEXTUALLY, IT'S A VERY PECULIAR, GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE LARGER PARKING CONVERSATION WE SHOULD BE HAVING AS A CITY, ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND ALL OF OUR CLIMATE ACTION GOALS, WITH OR WITHOUT RESPECT TO THE GOING CARBON-NEUTRAL BY 2030.

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IF YOU LAID ALL 2 BILLION PARKING SPOTS TOGETHER IN THE UNITED STATES, THEY WOULD COVER AN AREA ROUGHLY THE SIZE OF CONNECTICUT.

THAT'S 5,500 SQUARE MILES OF PARKING AVAILABLE IN THE UNITED STATES.

I VERY RECENTLY READ AN EXCITING ARTICLE IN A MAJOR NEWSPAPER ABOUT HOW LOTS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE SCRAPPING REQUIREMENTS THAT ONCE MADE CARS THE CENTER OF THE URBAN LANDSCAPE.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE SHOWING LEADERSHIP ON THIS FRONT AS WELL.

AT THE VERY LEAST, WE SHOULD BE JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON AND RETHINKING THE WAY THAT WE MANDATE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

TO ME, THIS COMES BACK TO THE CONCEPT OF INDUCED DEMAND.

WE'RE HAVING LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS AROUND THAT HERE IN THE CITY WITH RESPECT TO OUR ROADWAYS AND HOW WE TREAT CARS VERSUS PEOPLE BEING TRANSPORTED AS OUR MODUS OPERANDI.

WHEN WE OFFER MORE PARKING PERMITS, WE ARE ENCOURAGING MORE PEOPLE TO DRIVE.

I THINK WE CAN ACHIEVE THE OPPOSITE AS WELL.

IF THERE'S LESS PARKING AVAILABLE IN A CITY LIKE FLAGSTAFF, MORE PEOPLE WILL LEAN ON OTHER WAYS TO GET BACK-AND-FORTH AROUND TOWN AS THOSE BECOME AVAILABLE.

IT'S SORT OF A CHICKEN AND EGG THING, BUT WE SHOULD BE INVESTING IN THESE STRATEGIES TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS MORE OFTEN AS THEY'RE ABLE.

MY DAUGHTER IS LOOKING AT LOTS OF COLLEGES RIGHT NOW AND SEVERAL OF THE COLLEGES SHE'S LOOKING INTO ARE BACK EAST, A COUPLE OF THEM ARE IN BOSTON AND THAT AREA.

WE ALREADY KNOW THAT IF SHE WERE TO GO TO SCHOOL IN ONE OF THESE PLACES, SHE HAS A CAR, SHE WOULDN'T BRING IT.

SHE WOULD LEAVE THE CAR OR SELL IT AND EXIST FOR THE FOUR YEARS OR WHATEVER THAT SHE'S ON THAT COLLEGE OR CAMPUS WITHOUT A VEHICLE, USING OTHER WAYS TO GET BACK AND FORTH.

THAT SHOULD BE AN EXPECTATION THAT WE ARE ESTABLISHING OVERTIME HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

IF YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER IS COMING TO NAU, THEY SHOULD LEAVE THEIR CAR AT HOME, BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOING TO BE EASIER AND ACTUALLY MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM TO GET AROUND IN OTHER WAYS.

WE CAN FACILITATE THAT AND HELP SUPPORT THAT WITH OUR DECISIONS ON COUNCIL.

REAL QUICKLY, I DON'T WANT TOO MANY PEOPLE TO GET TOO NERVOUS HERE.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LINGERING OBLIGATIONS WITH RESPECT TO PARKING, AND I JUST WANT TO SPECIFICALLY STATE I DO INTEND TO HONOR THOSE.

WE NEED TO SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT WE WON'T BAIT AND SWITCH REGARDING BOND PROMISES.

I UNDERSTAND THE SENSITIVITIES THERE.

I'M ALSO VERY GRATEFUL THAT OUR LEADERSHIP AND CITY MANAGEMENT SEEMS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ANY CONVERSATION REGARDING PARKING SHOULD INVOLVE A PARKING STRUCTURE AND STRUCTURES THAT ARE REPURPOSEABLE IN THE FUTURE.

THOSE ARE THE STRUCTURES THAT I SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT.

I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT THAT VALUE IS SHARED BY LEADERSHIP.

JUST TO ECHO ONCE MORE WHAT TYLER WAS SAYING, I THINK THE WHOLE PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT SILLY AND OUT OF STEP WITH THE PRINCIPLES OUTLINED IN OUR OTHER CITY DOCUMENTS.

IF WE NEED TO APPROVE THIS STUDY, IF THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THE NEWMAN CENTER TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE ITS PARKING REQUIREMENT, THEN WE SHOULD DEFINITELY APPROVE THAT.

BUT LONG TERM, I DO THINK THIS BEGS THE QUESTION WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT A PROCESS THAT SHOULD BE FIXED.

I THINK IT'S A WASTE OF EVERYONE'S TIME, AND IT CUTS AGAINST A BUNCH OF THE CITY'S GOALS FOR QUESTIONS OF REDUCING PARKING TO HAVE TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL AS A MATTER OF COURSE.

OF COURSE, THERE WILL BE CONTEXTUAL SITUATIONS IN WHICH WE WILL WANT TO BE IN CONTROL OF THAT CONVERSATION AND COME TO A DECISION AS A GROUP, BUT IN GENERAL, MAYBE THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT THE NEXT TIME WE LOOK AT THESE ZONING CODES THAT WE CAN FURTHER FACILITATE A NEW DEFAULT SITUATION IN WHICH PARKING IS NOT VALUED THE WAY IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

WELL SAID, AS ALWAYS.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE, YOU HAVE A COMMENT AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND BEFORE I MAKE MY COMMENT, I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE IF IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GLARING AT ANYONE.

[LAUGHTER] I'VE GOT A PRETTY BAD HEADACHE RIGHT NOW, SO I'M SQUINTING A BIT, BUT I PROMISE I'M NOT GLARING AT YOU THROUGH THE SCREEN.

I WANTED TO JUST, AGAIN,

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THANK THE PRESENTERS AND TYLER FOR HIS COMMENTS.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ALIGNMENT AND AGREEMENT IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING.

THE REASON THAT I ASKED THE QUESTION I DID ABOUT HOW MUCH PARKING IS AT THE CURRENT LOCATION IS I THINK IT'S MOVING IN A VERY POSITIVE DIRECTION TO SEE THAT NOT ONLY DOES THE PARKING STUDY SUGGESTS THAT LESS PARKING IS ACTUALLY NEEDED OR REQUIRED, OR IT COULD BE REQUIRED THAN IS CURRENTLY DICTATED BY CODE, BUT ALSO THAT THE NEWMAN CENTER IS CERTAINLY SHOWING WILLINGNESS TO NOT ONLY REDUCE THAT FOOTPRINT OF THOSE PARKING SPACES, BUT ALSO RETHINK AND RESTRUCTURE THEIR MODEL IN A WAY THAT THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY GIVING UP SOME OF THE REVENUE STREAM THAT THEY WERE GENERATING THROUGH THE SELLING OF PARKING PASSES, OR AT LEAST RESTRUCTURING THAT AND WILLING TO TAKE THAT LOOK IN TERMS OF ADVANCING SOME OF THE CITIES INITIATIVES.

I DEFINITELY AM IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS SHOWING THAT THERE MAY BE ROOM TO RE-EXAMINE SOME OF OUR CODE LANGUAGE OR REQUIREMENTS.

THAT IF WE'RE GOING FROM A REQUIREMENT OF 75 TO AN ACTUAL NEED OF 45, THERE MIGHT BE ROOM TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT CODE IS REQUIRING OR AT LEAST EXERCISE THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE WOULD BE EXERCISING IN THIS CASE.

I'M DEFINITELY LEANING TOWARDS IN FAVOR OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE.

I DO AGREE THAT IT'S OFFERING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REASSESS AND RE-LOOK AT THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT IN WHAT WE'RE STATING AS OUR CITY VALUES AND MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.

BUT THIS CERTAINLY SEEMS TO BE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT CAN WORK IN PRACTICE SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

I DID HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF GENEVIEVE IS STILL ON TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS STATED THAT A SEPARATE DEMAND STUDY WAS PENDING OR WAS STILL NEEDED.

I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT JUST TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THAT DEMAND STUDY AND THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY THAT WAS DONE.

>> YEAH. I THINK YOU MAY BE REFERRING TO THE DRAFT AGREEMENT THAT THE NEWMAN CENTER IS WORKING ON WITH NAU.

THERE'S JUST ONE DEMAND STUDY.

APOLOGIES IF THAT WASN'T CLEAR.

ONE STUDY AND THEY HAVE THE NEWMAN CENTER AND FATHER MATT FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN ON THIS SINCE YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE NEWMAN CENTER CURRENTLY HAS A DRAFT AGREEMENT THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON WITH NAU TO HAVE 20 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES ON NAU PARKING LOTS CLOSE BY, A COUPLE OF BLOCKS, THEY'RE REALLY CLOSE TO THE NEWMAN CENTER THAT THEY'D BE ABLE TO USE EVERY SUNDAY AND I BELIEVE THAT AGREEMENT COVERS A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

THERE'S JUST ONE DEMAND STUDY.

I THINK MAYBE I DID MENTION ALSO THE STAFF LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND LOOKED AT THE AVERAGE ATTENDANCE, AND THAT WASN'T IN THE STUDY THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED, THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE LOOKED AT IN ADDITION, SO I WAS ALSO REFERRING TO THAT.

BUT YEAH, THERE WAS JUST ONE STUDY. THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTION.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE BOTTOM LINE FIRST, I DO SUPPORT THIS DEVIATION FROM THE GENERAL GUIDELINES.

I THINK A VERY GOOD CASE HAS BEEN MADE THAT IT MAKES SENSE IN THIS CASE.

I LIKE THE INCLUSION OF THE PEDESTRIAN PATH.

I'VE WALKED THROUGH THE NEWMAN CENTER PROPERTY AND THERE'S AN UNOFFICIAL WAY TO GET THROUGH ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH I'VE USED MANY TIMES.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE INCREASE WALKABILITY AND GETTING PEOPLE OVER TO MILTON WITHOUT HAVING TO GO WAY AROUND.

AS FAR AS THE PARKING DISCUSSION, I DO THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE THAT WE HAVE A GUIDELINES FOR PARKING AND IT MAY BE RIPE FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION, BUT IN MY OPINION, THIS IS NOT THE VENUE OR THE TIME FOR THAT, SO I WON'T GET INTO THAT.

THERE'S PROS AND CONS ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT.

THAT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE DISCUSSION.

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I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST, I WANTED TO THANK TYLER FOR CALLING IN, AND I DO AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT HE SAID.

I THINK MAYBE IT'S TIME TO REVISIT OUR PARKING AND THAT CONVERSATION IS MEANT FOR ANOTHER TIME.

I ALSO APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE NEWMAN CENTER AND NAU.

I LOVED THAT THERE ARE PARTNERING UP AND THAT NAU IS SUPPORTING OUR GOALS AND THEIR GOALS.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND I ALSO ECHO APPRECIATION FOR TYLER.

I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH HIM AT A FEW OF THE FORUMS AND AM ENCOURAGED TO SEE MORE PEOPLE.

HE GETS A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED AND HE HAS AN INTEREST AND I REALLY APPRECIATE HIM TAKING THE TIME TO REALLY CARE ABOUT OUR CITY AND WHERE IT'S GOING.

I APPRECIATE FATHER MATT, HE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO AND DO A TWO-YEAR STUDY ON THE ACTUAL NEED.

I'M SURE THAT IT WAS PROBABLY MOTIVATED BY WANTING MORE BUILDING SPACE THAN PARKING, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT HE ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH, WE COULD HAVE THIS AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES, BUT WE DON'T REALLY NEED IT AND TO COME AND ASK US TO REDUCE IT.

I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT HIS CONGREGATION AND WHOEVER WORKED BEHIND THAT PUT INTO IT.

I DID WANT TO COMMENT TO SAY THAT I'M A LITTLE CAUTIOUS IN THAT, AND OTHERS HAVE MADE COMMENT TO THIS THAT THIS IS OUR CURRENT PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND DEFINITELY, I'M SURE THIS CONVERSATION WILL COME UP IN THE FUTURE IF WE NEED TO DO SOME MODIFICATIONS.

BUT THIS WEEK WITH THE STORM THAT JUST CAME IN AND PROHIBITED A LOT OF US FROM GOING INTO TOWN AND GOING TO WORK AND JUST GO INTO THE GROCERY STORE BECAUSE OF THE STORM, I ALWAYS WANT TO JUST REMIND EVERYBODY OF THE SEVERE CLIMATE THAT WE DO LIVE IN AND SOMETIMES I DON'T WANT TO SUGGEST SOMETHING OR MOVE FORWARD IN SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE THAT FORGETS THAT DURING THE WINTERTIME, WE CAN ALWAYS USE OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION AND SO I THINK THAT WE ARE IN A UNIQUE AREA WHERE WE HAVE TO ALWAYS STAY SENSITIVE TO OUR CLIMATE AND THERE ARE TIMES WHERE IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO MOVE ABOUT OUR TOWN UNLESS IT'S IN A VEHICLE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS AND I DO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE STAFF AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS REQUEST.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THERE WERE A LOT OF REALLY GREAT POINTS MADE SO I THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY ROBUST DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE OF PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK FATHER MATT AS WELL AND THANK NAU.

I LOVE IT WHEN WE CAN USE AN EXISTING RESOURCE INSTEAD OF BUILDING OUT THAT SAME RESOURCE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT.

I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL AND I TOO, I'M IN SUPPORT.

THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE YOUR MOTION.

>> WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE PARKING DEMAND STUDY, WHICH IMPLIES THAT THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO HAVE LESS PARKING SPACES THAN IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED BY CODE AS IS OUTLINED IN THE PACKET AND WITH THE THREE CONDITIONS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. THAT'S MY MOTION.

>> I'LL SECOND. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> THANK YOU TO BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE AND VICE MAYOR ASLAN, WE HAVE A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION CARRIES.

WE MOVE INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA,

[A. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2023-02: A resolution approving Binding Waivers of Enforcement for five parcels of land located in the City of Flagstaff. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: 1) Read Resolution No. 2023-02 by title only 2) City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2023-02 by title only (if approved above) 3) Adopt Resolution No. 2023-02]

ITEM 10A WHICH IS THE CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-02 A RESOLUTION APPROVING BINDING WAIVERS OF ENFORCEMENT FOR FIVE PARCELS OF LAND LOCATED IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

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>> THANKS SO MUCH, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

CHRISTINA RUBALCAVA, SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY AND I DO HAVE A QUICK PRESENTATION FOR YOU.

TONIGHT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SEVERAL PROP 207 CLAIMS THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED AND THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE BINDING WAIVERS OF ENFORCEMENT.

BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, ON NOVEMBER 17TH, 2020, THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED ORDINANCE 2020-28, WHICH MADE VARIOUS AMENDMENTS OF THE FLAGSTAFF ZONING CODE.

WE REFER TO THOSE PARTICULAR AMENDMENTS AS THE HIGH OCCUPANCY HOUSING OR HOH AMENDMENTS.

AND THOSE CHANGES INCLUDED, AMONG OTHERS, REQUIRING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR HOH RESTRICTING HOH OF FOUR UNITS OR MORE TO THE PEDESTRIAN SHED IF AN ACTIVITY CENTER AND ADDING PARKING, BEDROOM, BATHROOM, AND OTHER HOH REQUIREMENTS.

DURING JUNE THROUGH DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THE CITY RECEIVED PROP 207 CLAIMS ON BEHALF OF FIVE PARCELS OF LAND AND THOSE OWNERS CLAIM THAT AS A RESULT OF THE HOH CODE AMENDMENTS, THEIR PROPERTIES LOST A COLLECTIVE $25 MILLION IN VALUE.

PROP 207 ALSO NOW CODIFIED AS ARS 12-1134 PROVIDES THAT IF THE EXISTING RIGHTS TO USE DIVIDE CELL, OR POSSESS PRIVATE REAL PROPERTY ARE REDUCED BY THE ENACTMENT OR APPLICABILITY OF ANY LAND USE LAW ENACTED AFTER THE DATE THE PROPERTY IS TRANSFERRED AND THAT ACTION REDUCES THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THE PROPERTY THAN THE OWNER IS ENTITLED TO JUST COMPENSATION IN THIS CASE FROM THE CITY THAT ENACTED THE LAND USE LAW.

THE LAND OWNER MUST MAKE A WRITTEN DEMAND FOR A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF JUST COMPENSATION, WHICH HAS BEEN DONE AS I OUTLINED, AND THE CITY THEN HAS 90 DAYS TO EITHER PAY THE CLAIM, AMEND THE LAND USE LAW, OR PERMANENTLY WAVE ENFORCEMENT OF THE NEW LAND USE LAW ON THAT LAND OWNERS PARCEL.

IF THE CITY DOES NOT ACT, THEN THE LANDOWNER MAY FILE A CLAIM FOR JUST COMPENSATION IN SUPERIOR COURT WITHIN THREE YEARS OF THE DATE THE LAND USE LAW TOOK EFFECT.

JUST COMPENSATION THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS THE REDUCTION IN FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AS A RESULT OF THAT LAND USE LAW.

FAIR MARKET VALUE BEING THE MOST LIKELY PRICE WHICH THE LAND WOULD BRING IF EXPOSED FOR SALE IN THE OPEN MARKET UNDER YOUR NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL TONIGHT, THE CITY WILL AGREE AND DECLARE THAT THE HOH ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS WILL NOT BE ENFORCED OR APPLICABLE TO THE ENTIRETY OR ANY PORTION OF THOSE FIVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE BINDING WAIVER OF ENFORCEMENT ATTACHED TO THE STAFF SUMMARY AS EXHIBIT 8 TO THE RESOLUTION.

I AM HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH KRISTINA.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? STACY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> WE DO NOT MAYOR. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I AM NOT SEEING ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> THIS IS JIM MCCARTHY.

I KNOW THAT WE READ RESOLUTIONS 2023-02 BY TITLE ONLY.

>> YOU HAVE A SECOND.

>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

>> I MOVED WE ADOPTED RESOLUTION 2023-02.

I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

KRISTINA PROVIDED ANSWERS TO ME BEFORE THE MEETING. THANK YOU, KRISTINA.

>> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY AND STACY.

>> WE'RE ALL THE SAME TEAM THERE.

>> MAYOR, IF I MIGHT, WE DO NEED TO READ THE RESOLUTION BEFORE WE HAVE THAT MOTION TO ADOPT.

>> YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SORRY.

>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL APPROVING BINDING WAIVERS OF ENFORCEMENT FOR FIVE PARCELS OF LAND WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NOW, I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2023-02.

SORRY, I WAS PREMATURE.

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>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> I SECOND.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED?

>> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER

[B. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2023-01: A resolution for consideration and approval of Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA) between the City of Flagstaff and the Greater Flagstaff Region (GFR) partnering agencies (Summit Fire District, Highlands Fire District, Ponderosa Fire Department, and Pinewood Fire Department) STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: 1) Read Resolution No. 2023-01 by title only 2) City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2023-01 by title only (if approved above) 3) Adopt Resolution No.2023-01]

10B CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-01, A RESOLUTION FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF AN INTER-GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND THE GREATER FLAGSTAFF REGION PARTNERING AGENCIES. STAFF?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

JERRY BILLS, DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF.

THIS ITEM I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE IT.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO APPROVE AN IGA BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE FIRE DISTRICTS OF SUMMIT FIRE AND MEDICAL DISTRICT, THE PINE WOOD FIRE DISTRICT AND THE HIGHLANDS FIRE DISTRICT TO SHARE IN GRANT FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVE, TO SEND 10 OF OUR EMPLOYEES TO TRAINING, TO BECOME INSTRUCTORS, TRAIN THE TRAINERS FOR OUR INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

THIS IS THE SECOND-GENERATION OF THESE FOLKS WERE GOING TO SEND TO THIS CLASS AND THEY'RE REPLACING US, 10 OLD GUYS WHO ARE NO LONGER USEFUL TO DO THAT AS WE'RE ALL BUSY DOING OUR THING.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THE GRANT IS A 90 PERCENT 10 MATCH, WHERE EACH AGENCY WILL SHARE THEIR PIECE OF THAT MATCHED BY HOW MUCH DID THAT 90 PERCENT THEY SPEND IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

THERE'S A LITTLE CHART IN THE BACK THAT SPELLS THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT BUT I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? STACY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> NO, WE DO NOT MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU. I SEE THAT WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE IS READY TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM 10B SO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE READ RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-01 BY TITLE ONLY.

>> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? STACY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-01, BY TITLE ONLY.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL APPROVING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE HIGHLANDS FIRE DISTRICT, PONDEROSA FIRE DEPARTMENT, PINE WOOD FIRE DEPARTMENT, SUMMIT FIRE AND MEDICAL DISTRICT IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF FOR THE ASSISTANCE TO FIREFIGHTERS REGIONAL TRAINING GRANT PROGRAM.

>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT?

>> MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-01, AND I'LL JUST ADD THE COMMENT THAT CHIEF BILLS, YOU'RE STILL AND ALL MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM ARE STILL VERY MUCH NEEDED SO PLEASE KNOW YOU'RE STILL VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE

>> ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THE MOTION CARRIES.

WE ARE GOING TO SKIP ITEMS 10C, AND D, AS I STATED EARLIER, WE'LL COME BACK TO THOSE AFTER 07:00.

LET'S MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS.

[A. Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Introduction and Overview; Establishment of CDBG Council Priorities for Program Years 2023 and 2024 Receive Council direction on CDBG priorities for the next two program years (2023 and 2024).]

ITEM NUMBER 11A, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, INTRODUCTION AND OVERVIEW, AS WELL AS ESTABLISHMENT OF CDBG COUNCIL PRIORITIES FOR PROGRAM YEARS 2023 AND 2024. WELCOME STAFF.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MY NAME IS SARAH DARR FOR THOSE I HAVEN'T MET YET AND I AM PLEASURED FOR SERVING AS YOUR HOUSING DIRECTOR.

I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT AND SINCE WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO INTRODUCE SOME KEY MEMBERS OF HOUSING STAFF HERE YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM TODAY.

JUSTINA COSTA, IF YOU WOULD TURN YOUR CAMERA ON AND GIVE-AWAY.

THERE WE GO. JUSTINA IS ASSISTANT HOUSING DIRECTOR FOR THE HOUSING SECTION SIDE.

YOU'LL MEET STAFF FROM THE OTHER SIDE ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IN THE COMING WEEKS.

THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE AWESOME CHRISTINE PUBLIC WHO WILL BE GIVING YOU THE PRESENTATION

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TODAY CONCERNING CDBG AND ESTABLISHING PRIORITIES.

WE ARE EXCITED TO DO THIS WITH YOU.

WE DO THIS ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS WHEN A NEW COUNCIL IS INSTALLED.

YOUR ACTIONS TODAY WILL ESTABLISH THE PRIORITIES FOR OUR NEXT TWO CDBG CYCLES.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND CHRISTINE TAKE IT AWAY.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, SARAH.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF.

LIKE SARAH SAID, I'M CHRISTINE PUBLIC IN THE HOUSING AND GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CITY HOUSING SECTION.

JUST MAKING SURE EVERYBODY CAN SEE MY SCREEN OKAY.

I CAN'T SEE NODS SO HOPEFULLY, YES.

>> YES. I'M SORRY.

>> I COMPUTER DID A WEIRD THING WHERE I LOST MY CAMERA VIEW OF EVERYBODY.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET STARTED.

THANKS AGAIN FOR HAVING ME THIS AFTERNOON TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THE CITY'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.

I'M PROBABLY GOING TO REFER TO IT FROM HERE ON OUT AS CDBG.

I TRY NOT TO USE TOO MANY ACRONYMS, BUT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM CAN BE A MOUTHFUL.

I'M GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN INTRODUCTION AND OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ELIGIBLE USES OF THE FUNDS.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF OUR MOST RECENT PROJECTS AND LASTLY, AS WE DO EVERY TWO YEARS WITH A NEW COUNCIL, WE'LL ESTABLISH YOUR COUNCIL PRIORITIES FOR CDBG FUNDS FOR THE YEAR 2023 AND 2024 FOR THOSE PROGRAM YEARS.

WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT? IT'S A PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES FUNDING FOR HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES AND IT'S FUNDED THROUGH THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE ALSO KNOW AS HUD.

THE PROGRAM IS MEANT TO SERVE PRIMARILY LOW AND MODERATE-INCOME INDIVIDUALS AND HOUSEHOLDS.

WHY DOES THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF RECEIVE FUNDING OR CONSIDERED AN ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITY, WHICH MEANS THAT WE ARE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE AN ANNUAL ALLOCATION OF FUNDS.

COMMUNITIES ARE ELIGIBLE AFTER THEY HIT THAT 50,000-PERSON POPULATION.

WE'VE BEEN AN ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITY FOR SOME TIME NOW.

OUR ANNUAL ALLOCATION IS BASED ON A FORMULA THAT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION OUR POPULATION, THE AGE OF OUR HOUSING STOCK, AS WELL AS OTHER COMMUNITY-SPECIFIC INFORMATION, IS ALSO IMPACTED BY THE CONGRESSIONAL ALLOCATION TO THE PROGRAM AS A WHOLE, AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITIES IN OUR STATE NATIONWIDE.

FOR EXAMPLE EVERY YEAR, NEW ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITIES ARE CREATED AS POPULATIONS INCREASE.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO KNOW IS THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OR INFLUENCE OVER THIS ALLOCATION FROM HUD.

IT'S ALL DONE ON A FORMULA BASIS.

IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE OUR ANNUAL ALLOCATION, THE CITY MUST SUBMIT OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS TO HUD AT VARIOUS TIMES.

THE FIRST IS OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.

ESSENTIALLY THAT TELLS HUD WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO DO WITH THAT YEAR'S ALLOCATION OF FUNDS.

WE HAVE OUR CAPER THAT'S DUE IN SEPTEMBER, AND THIS TELLS HUD WHAT WE DID WITH THE FUNDS AND WHO WE SERVE, WHO BENEFITED FROM THOSE PROGRAMS. EVERY FIVE YEARS, WE SUBMIT WHAT'S CALLED THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN, AND THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR ASSESSMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS.

THIS DOCUMENT WAS LAST SUBMITTED TO HUD IN 2021, AND IT'S DEFINED FLAGSTAFF SCHOOLS FOR CDBG FUNDS USED FOR THE LAST TWO PROGRAM YEARS AND NOW WE'RE ENTERING OUR THIRD PROGRAM YEAR UNDER THAT CONSOLIDATED PLAN.

THEN OCCASIONALLY WE WILL SUBMIT SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENTS.

THESE ARE DUE WHEN WE NEED TO REALLOCATE FUNDS FROM ONE PROJECT TO ANOTHER.

FOR EXAMPLE WHEN COVID HIT AND WE DECIDED TO END OUR OR PROGRAM BECAUSE IT JUST WASN'T SAFE TO GO INTO HOMES AND WE RE-ALLOCATED THOSE FUNDS TO EVICTION PREVENTION.

WE FILED A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.

WHEN WE DO GET THOSE ONE-TIME FUNDS, WE WILL SUBMIT THOSE.

WHEN WE GET ONE-TIME FUNDS LIKE CDBG-CV FUNDS OR DISASTER RELIEF FUNDS, WE WILL ALSO DO AN AMENDMENT AT THAT TIME.

ESSENTIALLY, THE WAY THAT THE CITY CAN USE THE MONEY IS, AS YOU COUNCIL SEES FIT, AS LONG AS IT'S BASED ON COMMUNITY NEEDS IDENTIFIED IN THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN, THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE AND ONE OR MORE OF THE NATIONAL OBJECTIVES WHICH I WILL EXPLAIN NEXT.

THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF THE CDBG PROGRAM IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF VIABLE URBAN COMMUNITIES THROUGH THE PROVISION OF DECENT HOUSING, A SUITABLE LIVING ENVIRONMENT, AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, ALL OF WHICH MUST SERVE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PERSONS.

THE DEFINITION OF A LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLD IS 80 PERCENT OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR BELOW.

FOR EXAMPLE, A HOUSEHOLD OF FOUR IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF CANNOT MAKE MORE THAN $68,700 A YEAR IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR PROGRAMS HOUSING FUNDED THROUGH THE CDBG PROGRAM.

ALONG WITH MEETING THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE, THE ACTIVITIES MUST ALSO MEET ONE OR MORE OF THESE NATIONAL OBJECTIVES SO THAT EITHER MUST SERVE A LIMITED CLIENTELE VIA HOUSING ACTIVITY,

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PROVIDE AN AREA OF BENEFIT IN A PREDEFINED TARGET NEIGHBORHOOD, OR BE A JOB CREATION OR RETENTION ACTIVITY.

I'LL EXPLAIN THOSE IN MORE DETAIL.

LIMITED CLIENTELE ACTIVITIES BENEFIT LOW TO MODERATE-INCOME PERSONS OR THOSE WHO ARE PRESUMED BY HUD TO BE LOW TO MODERATE-INCOME PERSONS AND THIS IS ALL HUD LANGUAGE.

BUT SOME OF THE POPULATIONS THAT ARE PRESUMED TO BENEFIT INCLUDE SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, DISABLED ADULTS, ABUSED CHILDREN.

YOU CAN SEE THE LIST ON THERE.

AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WE'VE FUNDED UNDER THIS ELIGIBILITY, CDBG-CV FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED TO THE FRONT DOOR FOR COORDINATED ENTRY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

LAST PROGRAM HERE WE ALSO HAD A PUBLIC SERVICE PROGRAM FROM HOMELESS YOUTH CONNECTION.

THEY PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT AND OTHER SERVICES FOR YOUTH EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WHO ARE WORKING TO COMPLETE HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY SERVED 32 YOUTHS LAST YEAR.

HOUSING ACTIVITIES PROVIDE OR IMPROVE PERMANENT RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES WHICH WILL BE OCCUPIED BY LOW TO MODERATE-INCOME PERSONS.

THAT OWNER-OCCUPIED HOUSING REHABILITATION PROGRAM REALLY FITS UNDER THIS CATEGORY.

THAT PROGRAM WAS ORIGINALLY OPERATED BY THE CITY, NOW IT'S ADMINISTERED BY OUR PARTNER HOUSING SOLUTIONS OF NORTHERN ARIZONA.

IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, FUNDS WERE ALSO ALLOCATED TO SHARON MANOR FOR THE CONVERSION OF THEIR CONGREGATE LIVING UNITS INTO INDEPENDENT UNITS, AS WELL AS THE EXPANSION OF FIVE ADDITIONAL APARTMENTS, ALL FOR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

THIS CAN ALSO INCLUDE THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW UNITS, BUT ONLY WHEN UNDERTAKEN BY AN OFFICIAL COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION.

IT'S ALSO IN THE PAST FUNDED DOWN PAYMENT AND CLOSING COSTS ASSISTANCE BUT WE FOUND THAT THE MEDIAN SALES HOME PRICES IN FLAGSTAFF HAVE JUST MADE IT OUT OF REACH FOR FOLKS THAT ARE AT 80 PERCENT OF THE AMI AND SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE CITY HAS DEVELOPED THE COMMUNITY HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT CAN SERVE HOUSEHOLDS UP TO 125 PERCENT ANNUALLY.

THE NEXT IS AREA BENEFIT.

THESE ACTIVITIES MUST BENEFIT ALL RESIDENTS IN A LOW-INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT IS DEFINED BY MORE THAN 50 PERCENT OF THE HOUSEHOLDS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ARE LOW AND MODERATE-INCOME.

IN OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, THE CITY HAS DESIGNATED FOUR TARGET NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE DESIGNATE SUNNYSIDE, SOUTHSIDE, LA PLAZA VIEJA, AND PINE KNOLL.

THESE WERE DESIGNATED DURING THAT PROCESS, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE HIGH CONCENTRATION OF LOW TO MODERATE-INCOME AND MINORITY HOUSEHOLDS, BUT ALSO AS A RESPONSE TO COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

PROJECTS THAT PROVIDE BENEFIT TO ALL HOUSEHOLDS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ARE CONSIDERED ELIGIBLE.

THESE ARE MOST OFTEN NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A PROJECT THAT WAS ALLOCATED FUNDS LAST YEAR, WHICH INCLUDES IMPROVEMENTS TO THE GROUNDS AND THE CREATION OF A PARK AT THE MURDOCH COMMUNITY CENTER.

LA PLAZA VIEJA RECENTLY HAD SOME SIDEWALK AND DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS COMPLETED RIGHT ON CLAY AVENUE.

WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THE FLAGSTAFF FAMILY FOOD CENTER WAS ABLE TO REHABILITATE THEIR RESTROOMS AND THEIR KITCHEN IN THEIR SUNNYSIDE FOOD CENTER.

THE BATHROOMS ARE NOW ADA-ACCESSIBLE, WHICH WAS THE GOAL OF THAT PROJECT.

FUNDS HAVE ALSO BEEN USED IN THE LAST DECADE FOR IMPROVEMENTS AT HAL JENSEN REC CENTER, PLAYGROUND IMPROVEMENTS AT ARROYO AND GUADALUPE PARKS, AND STREET INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN PINE KNOLL AND LA PLAZA VIEJA.

ALSO ELIGIBLE ARE PROJECTS THAT REMOVE ARCHITECTURAL BARRIERS IN PUBLIC SPACES FOR ADA ACCESSIBILITY.

LASTLY, WE HAVE JOB CREATION RETENTION ACTIVITIES.

THESE ACTIVITIES ARE DESIGNED TO CREATE AND RETAIN PERMANENT JOBS FOR LOW TO MODERATE-INCOME PERSONS.

AN ACTIVITY THAT CDBG FUNDED WITH JOB TRAINING AND CREATION AT SHARON'S ATTIC.

WE'VE ALSO ALLOCATED FUNDS FOR JOB TRAINING AND SMALL BUSINESS ASSISTANCE.

THESE ARE ELIGIBLE THROUGH THE LIMITED CLIENTELE NATIONAL OBJECTIVE, BUT THEY CAN ALSO BE ELIGIBLE THROUGH JOB CREATION AND RETENTION ACTIVITIES.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MONEY.

CDBG DOES HAVE TWO FUNDING CAPS.

ONE OF THESE IS A HUD FUNDING CAP.

IT'S 20 PERCENT CAP ON ADMINISTRATION.

THIS GOES FOR BOTH THE CITY AND THE NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WE PARTNER WITH.

WE REFER TO THEM AS SUB-RECIPIENTS.

WE HISTORICALLY HAVE USED 10 PERCENT OF THAT ADMINISTRATION FUNDING FOR ADMIN COSTS, BUT ANOTHER 10 PERCENT FOR INDIRECT COSTS AND AN INDIRECT RATE, IN A NUTSHELL, JUST ALLOWS THE CITY TO COLLECT FOR COST INCURRED TO ADMINISTER FEDERAL OR STATE CONTRACTS.

IT INCLUDES THE FABULOUS LEGAL ASSISTANCE WE RECEIVE, OUR IT, AND THE EFFORTS FROM OUR GRANTS AND OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENTS.

ULTIMATELY, THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE USE OF FUNDS, EVEN IF SPENT BY AN OUTSIDE AGENCY.

WE ARE ALWAYS MONITORING OUR SUB-RECIPIENTS FOR THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT THEY ARE SPENDING ON ADMINISTRATION AS WELL.

THE SECOND CDBG FUNDING CAP IS ON PUBLIC SERVICE ACTIVITIES.

PUBLIC SERVICE ACTIVITIES ARE PROJECTS THAT FUND THE OPERATIONS OF PROGRAMS THAT SERVE LOW AND MODERATE-INCOME PERSONS.

AS WE'RE ALL WELL AWARE

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PUBLIC SERVICE IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

HUD ALLOWS US TO USE 15 PERCENT OF THE CDBG ALLOCATED TO GO TOWARDS THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IN 2022, OUR TOTAL PUBLIC SERVICE ALLOWABLE AMOUNT WAS JUST OVER $90,000.

IN THE PAST, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO AWARD MORE FUNDS TO PUBLIC SERVICE PROJECTS BECAUSE OF WAIVERS PROVIDED BY THE CARES ACT.

THOSE HAVE NOW LAPSED AND ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR OUR NEXT ALLOCATION.

WE ARE STUCK RIGHT AT THAT 15 PERCENT CAP.

IN OUR PROPOSAL PROCESS.

THIS IS THE MOST COMPETITIVE CATEGORY AND SADLY WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF FUNDING AVAILABLE.

SOME PAST PROJECTS IN THIS CATEGORY INCLUDE OPERATIONAL EXPENSES FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, HOMELESS SHELTERS, EVICTION PREVENTION, AND IS ALSO CATEGORIZED UNDER PUBLIC SERVICE.

LASTLY, THERE'S A CRITERIA THAT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF MUST FOLLOW WHEN ADMINISTERING CDBG FUNDS AND THAT'S THAT AT LEAST 70 PERCENT OF CDBG MUST BENEFIT LOW TO MODERATE-INCOME PERSONS.

HISTORICALLY WE'RE REALLY PROUD TO SAY THAT WE'VE ALWAYS USED OUR CDBG FUNDING TO SERVE 100 PERCENT OF LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PERSON AND HOUSEHOLD.

LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW WE DISTRIBUTE OUR ANNUAL ALLOCATION INTO THE COMMUNITY.

WE HOLD AN OPEN PROPOSAL PROCESS CONDUCTED EVERY YEAR AND ALLOWS AGENCIES TO APPLY FOR THE USE OF THESE FUNDS FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE.

THIS YEAR THE PROCESS WILL BEGIN ON FEBRUARY 1ST.

WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING THAT WILL EXPLAIN THE PROCESS AND IT ALLOWS POTENTIAL APPLICANTS TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE.

WE ALSO OFFER TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE MEETINGS ONE-ON-ONE WITH AGENCIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN APPLYING JUST TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THEIR PROJECT AND MAKE SURE IT'S ELIGIBLE BASED ON THESE REALLY INTENSE FEDERAL REGULATIONS.

JUST TO HELP EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STAFF RESPONSIBILITY AND HOW OUR PROPOSAL PROCESS WORKS.

WE RELEASED THE NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABLE AND IT'S AVAILABLE TO ALL AGENCIES.

WE DO THOSE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE MEETINGS, AND THEN ONCE APPLICATIONS ARE SUBMITTED, STAFF WILL ASSESS IF THE PROJECTS ARE ELIGIBLE.

THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE ARE THEN REVIEWED BY A COMMUNITY RANKING COMMITTEE.

EACH MEMBER OF THE RANKING COMMITTEE INDIVIDUALLY SCORES THE PROPOSALS BASED ON HOW THE AGENCY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION AND EACH QUESTION HAS A WEIGHTED SCORING CRITERIA.

THEN THE COMMITTEE MEETING WILL MEET OR THE RANKING COMMITTEE WILL MEET, WILL DISCUSS IN GREAT DETAIL THE RESULTS AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE THEN AVERAGED OUT.

THE RANKING COMMITTEE IS COMPRISED OF BOTH INTERNAL STAFF AS WELL AS EXTERNAL EXPERTS IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, AN INDIVIDUAL, I DON'T KNOW, NOMINATED ISN'T QUITE THE RIGHT WORD, BUT RECOMMENDED BY THE LEAGUE OF NEIGHBORHOODS IN ORDER TO REPRESENT THOSE TARGET NEIGHBORHOOD INDIVIDUALS.

THEN WE BRING THOSE WEIGHTED SCORE PROPOSALS TO COUNSEL FOR A FINAL DECISION.

THIS YEAR WE'LL PRESENT AN APRIL WITH THE WEIGHTED SCORING RESULTS OF EACH PROPOSAL AND THEN YOU GET TO MAKE THE FINAL FUNDING DECISIONS FOR THOSE PROJECTS.

ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE SCORED, WHETHER OR NOT THE PROJECT MEETS ONE OF COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES.

BASICALLY WHETHER OR NOT IT MEETS YOUR COUNCIL PRIORITIES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SET TODAY THE PROJECTS CAN STILL BE AWARDED FUNDING, BUT THAT PRIORITIZATION REALLY PROVIDES EXTRA POINTS.

GRANT HE IS PROPOSING PROJECTS THAT MEET ONE OF THOSE SPECIFIC COUNCIL PRIORITIES WILL BE AHEAD IN THEIR RANGE SCORING.

ONCE COUNCIL SELECTS THIS, YOUR SUB RECIPIENTS WILL ENTER INTO A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE NON-PROFIT OR WHATEVER SORT OF AGENCY, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTRACTUAL REQUIREMENTS.

THEY DO HAVE TO FOLLOW FEDERAL PROCUREMENT.

WE HAVE INSURANCE STANDARDS, PAYMENT PROCEDURES, MONTHLY REPORTING THAT CAN BE REALLY EXTENSIVE, AND WE WILL MONITOR OUR SUB RECIPIENTS THROUGHOUT THE GRANT, AND ONCE WE CLOSE IT OUT, WE DO DO A FULL AUDIT AS WELL.

WE ALSO HAVE FEDERAL OVERLAY STATUTES THAT SUB RECIPIENTS MUST FOLLOW.. AGAIN, THE CITY IS FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING ALL GRANT COMPLIANCE, AND SO WE REALLY WORKED HARD TO HELP AGENCIES UNDERSTAND THESE STATUES AND HELPED TO CREATE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WILL HELP THEM COMPLY.

IT'S A CONSTANT LEARNING PROCESS, BUT WE'RE REALLY THERE TO AID THEM AND MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO CARRY OUT THEIR WORK SUCCESSFULLY.

THE PROPOSAL PROCESS ALSO INCLUDES EXTENSIVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

WE INCLUDE THREE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

AGAIN, THAT ONE-ON-ONE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WITH ANY AGENCIES THAT ARE INTERESTED, AND THEN WE FACILITATE THAT RANKING COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES COMMUNITY EXPERTS IN ADDITION TO INTERNAL STAFF.

WHAT HAS CHANGED IN RECENT YEARS?

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AS YOU CAN SEE, IN 2003, WE RECEIVED OUR HIGHEST ALLOCATION, AND THEN IN 2022, WE RECEIVED JUST A LITTLE OVER $530,000.

WHILE PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENTS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT TO HUD AND SO WE DO A LOT OF DATA COLLECTION.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ANY ACTIVITIES THAT WE FUND THAT THE NON-PROFITS ARE AGENCIES CARRYING THEM OUT, ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT DATA THAT WE THEN REPORT BACK TO HUD.

IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE THE LEVEL OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME THE HOUSEHOLD SERVED OR HAD.

IT INCLUDES WHAT HOUSEHOLDS MIGHT BE HAVE A FEMALE-HEADED HOUSEHOLD, AND THEN RACE AND ETHNICITY REPORTING AS WELL.

THIS CHART DEMONSTRATES THE HISTORICAL ALLOCATIONS WE'VE RECEIVED SINCE THE YEAR 2000.

YOU CAN SEE THE DECLINE DURING THE GREAT RECESSION SLOWLY INCREASING IN 2014, AND WE REALLY HOPE THAT WILL START SEEING A RISE.

AFTER TALKING WITH OUR HUD REPRESENTATIVE, SHE REALLY FEELS THAT THE REASON FOR THE LESSENING OF OUR ANNUAL ALLOCATION LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS TO DO WITH AN INCREASE IN ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITIES, BUT NOT A CORRESPONDING INCREASE IN CONGRESSIONAL ALLOCATION.

THIS SLIDE IS ABOUT HOW THINGS WORKED DURING COVID, WHEN WE RECEIVED THAT ONE TIME CARES ACT FUNDING.

AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE OFFICIALLY SPENT ALL OF THOSE FUNDS.

THAT'S REALLY EXCITING. WE WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE FUNDS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE DURING THE MOST CRUCIAL YEARS.

THEN EVERY FALL, AS I MENTIONED, WE SUBMIT THAT CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE EVALUATION REPORT.

WE CALL IT THE CAPE TO HUD.

IT IDENTIFIES THE GOALS WE'VE MET, THE NUMBER SERVED WITH ACTIVITIES THAT WERE UNDERTAKEN DURING THE PAST PROGRAM YEAR.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A HIGHLIGHT, WE DID FUND A TEXTILE EMPLOYMENT PATHWAY PROGRAM WITH OUR PARTNER THREAD TOGETHER AND THEY HAD THEIR FIRST THREE GRADUATES OF THAT PROGRAM WITHIN THE LAST PROGRAM YEAR.

THEN WE PROVIDE EVICTION PREVENTION FUNDING FOR 39 HOUSEHOLDS.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PLAZA DA, AND ONE OTHER ONE THAT IS PRETTY BIG THAT WE WERE ABLE TO CARRY OUT IS CATHOLIC CHARITIES WAS ABLE TO ACQUIRE A HOME FOR THEIR CLOSING THE GAP PROGRAM.

THAT PROVIDES SIX ADDITIONAL BEDS OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AS I MENTIONED, WE SUBMITTED OUR FIVE-YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN TO HUD IN 2021.

THE CREATION OF THIS DOCUMENT DEMANDED WIDESPREAD COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION.

WE HAD TONS OF PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDER INPUT.

THIS ALSO SHOWS ON HERE YOU CAN SEE THE ACTIVITY, COULD SEE THE PRIORITY LEVEL.

THE PRIORITY LEVELS HIGH AND LOW, THEY DON'T REFLECT THE LACK OF NEED FOR AN ACTIVITY.

IT SIMPLY IDENTIFIES ACTIVITIES THAT ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE ADDRESSED WITH OUR LIMITED CDBG FUNDING.

THE GOALS FOR THE COMP PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED IN 2021 AND THAT'S STILL GOVERN OUR DECISIONS AND OUR FUNDING ALLOCATIONS THROUGH THESE NEXT 3-5 YEARS INCLUDE REVITALIZING NEIGHBORHOODS WITH PUBLIC FACILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, PROVIDING PUBLIC SERVICES AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES TO LMI INDIVIDUALS, ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS WITH SERVICES AND PROGRAMMING, BUT ALSO THE CREATION OF ADDITIONAL SHELTER AND PROVIDING DECENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH HOUSING ACQUISITION, REHAB, AND CONSTRUCTION.

THE PRIORITIES FOR COUNCIL THE PAST TWO YEARS INCLUDED HOUSING, RENTAL, AND HOMEOWNERSHIP, NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION, RESPONDING TO HOMELESSNESS, AND WORKFORCE JOB TRAINING.

SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE FUNDED UNDER EACH PRIORITY DURING THE PAST TWO YEARS INCLUDE AN EVICTION PREVENTION THAT WAS ADMINISTERED BY OUR PARTNER, COCONINO COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.

INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ARE INCLUDED UNDER NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.

THAT INCLUDED CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT IMPROVE THE SIDEWALKS AND DRAINAGE AND LA PLAZA DA HALL, IT INCLUDES THE UPCOMING IMPROVEMENTS AT THE MURDOCH COMMUNITY CENTER.

THEN FOR RESPONDING TO HOMELESSNESS, THERE WAS A LOT OF FUNDING, ESPECIALLY CARES ACT, CDBG RESPONSE FUNDING THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO FLAGSTAFF SHELTER SERVICES AND CATHOLIC CHARITIES FOR THE IMPORTANT WORK THEY DO, PROVIDING SHELTER AND SERVICES, ESPECIALLY WHEN THINGS WERE REALLY DIFFICULT FOR THE POPULATIONS THEY SERVE DURING COVID.

THEN THOSE UNDER HOMELESSNESS, WE ALSO FUNDED THE EXPANSION OF TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AT SHARON MANOR.

THEN LASTLY, FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED FOR WORKFORCE JOB TRAINING FOR THAT SEWING AND TEXTILE EMPLOYMENT PATHWAYS PROGRAM ADMINISTERED BY THREAD TOGETHER.

NOW IS THE TIME WHEN YOU GET TO DECIDE WHAT PRIORITIES YOU'D LIKE TO SET FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

SARAH DARR, HOUSING DIRECTOR AND JUST UNIT COST OF HOUSING, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR ARE ALSO PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY HISTORICAL QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

WE'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE THEM.

THEY'VE BOTH BEEN HERE FOR SO LONG.

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THEY REALLY REMEMBER SO MUCH OF HOW CDBG HAS GROWN AND CHANGED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO ASK HIM THAT.

>> THANK YOU CHRISTINE.

GREAT JOB AS ALWAYS.

I'M WONDERING, BEFORE WE START A DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, STACY?

>> NO, MAYOR, WE DO NOT.

>> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY HAS A COMMENT.

>> WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK THAT THE PRIORITIES WE HAD IN PREVIOUS YEARS WERE GOOD.

I THINK THAT HOUSING, RENTAL AND OWNERSHIP, AND HOMELESSNESS OR ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS SHOULD BE AT THE VERY TOP OF THE LIST IN MY OPINION.

I'M ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION AND WORKFORCE TRAINING BUT I DO THINK THAT THE HOUSING ISSUES ARE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST IN MY OPINION AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. CHRISTINE, I'M WONDERING AND I THINK YOU JUST SAID THIS IN YOUR PRESENTATION, THERE'S SPECIFIC MONEY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IS IT SEPARATE FROM THE HOUSING?

>> NOT SO. THE ONLY CAST OR RULES ABOUT THE FUNDS THAT ARE SET ASIDE IS WE CAN'T GO OVER THAT 20 PERCENT FOR ADMINISTRATION OR THAT 15 PERCENT FOR PUBLIC SERVICES.

BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE CATEGORY. IT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT.

WE'RE NOT KEPT ON HOW MUCH WE SPEND ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, WE'RE ONLY KEPT ON PUBLIC SERVICE PROJECTS.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ONE IS, HAVE THE TARGET NEIGHBORHOODS COME FORWARD WITH APPLICATIONS, PROPOSALS, IDEAS FOR PROJECTS IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, MAYOR.

IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE TARGET NEIGHBORHOODS BY PARTNERING WITH A LIST OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE WERE ABLE TO HOST THE LAST TWO YEARS I BELIEVE, A PUBLIC MEETING IN THE FALL WHERE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE, HOUSEHOLDS, FAMILIES, EVEN BUSINESSES IN THESE TARGET NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ABLE TO COME AND TALK WITH THE CITY ABOUT WHAT THEY SEE IS MORE CRUCIAL NEEDS AND WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE THESE FUNDS GO TO.

WE'VE WORKED WITH MARK REVIS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNER TO BE A LIAISON BETWEEN RESIDENTS IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS.

WE WOULDN'T EXPECT THESE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MANAGE THESE GRANTS.

USUALLY, IF THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT INVOLVE CITY LAND OR THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY THEN THE CITY DEPARTMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE WOULD ADDRESS THAT.

WHEN WE HAD THOSE FUNCTIONAL PARTIES WITHIN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS CAME TO US AND SAID, HEY WE HAVE AN IDEA WITH THIS PROJECT TO BE ELIGIBLE AND THEN FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED.

SAME WITH THE MURDOCH CENTER, THE PROS SECTION, AND THE END MARKER INVEST NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNER WERE SAYING, HEY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

OUR CDBG FUNDS ARE ELIGIBLE AND CAN WE APPLY FOR THOSE? BASICALLY HOW IT WORKS IS IF THERE ARE INTERNAL PROJECTS, WE ASK THAT IT'S NOT A FULL APPLICATION.

WE'RE NOT SCORING THEIR APPLICATIONS, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEING ADMINISTERED BY THE CITY.

WE ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MANAGE THESE FUNDS APPROPRIATELY.

BUT IT DOES GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHO THE PROJECT IS GOING TO IMPACT, WHY IT'S IMPORTANT AND THEN WE BRING THAT TO COUNCIL AS AN OPTION FOR FUNDING TOTALLY ON SCORES WITH THE MAX REQUESTED FROM THAT SECTION.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. I CAN NOT WAIT ON THE CHANGES.

>> NO, IT DOES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE HAS A COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS, I VERY MUCH AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY IN TERMS OF THE PRIORITIZATION HERE.

CERTAINLY WITH THE DECLARED HOUSING EMERGENCY AND THE PARTICULAR NEEDS AND I THINK ALL OF THE TARGETED AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.

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HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS CERTAINLY RISE TO THE TOP AS WELL AS NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION AND I THINK RESILIENCY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT'S COVERED IN NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.

[NOISE] EXCUSE ME.

BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A MAJOR TOPIC I THINK AS WE LOOK AT THE PARALLELS BETWEEN HOUSING NEEDS AND CLIMATE AND SUSTAINABILITY, AND THEN OF COURSE WORKFORCE JOB TRAINING.

I THINK MY ONLY QUESTION IS TOUCHING ON WHAT YOU JUST ASKED, MAYOR.

IT'S JUST MAYBE NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION AS A COMMENT, BUT LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT MAY HAVE IDEAS THAT CAN'T NECESSARILY GET TO THE PUBLIC MEETING OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GETTING THE INFORMATION THEY HAVE ACCESS TO WHEN THERE'S GRANT FUNDING AVAILABLE, WHETHER IT'S TO A DESIGNATED CDBG GRANT RECIPIENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE WORLD GETS BACK INTO THOSE COMMUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THE PROGRAMS THEY KNOW HOW THEY'RE ELIGIBLE OR WHETHER THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A PROGRAM.

I THINK THAT'S JUST VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I THINK WE'VE SEEN THOSE INSTANCES WHERE FUNDING MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR A PROGRAM, BUT PEOPLE IN SOME OF THOSE TARGETED NEIGHBORHOODS JUST MIGHT NOT EVEN BE AWARE THAT IT'S OUT THERE AND ACCESSIBLE TO THEM AND NOT EVERYONE THAT'S IN THOSE AREAS HAS ACCESS TO THE WAYS THAT WE TYPICALLY GET THAT INFORMATION OUT.

FOR POSTING IT TO OUR WEBSITE OR TO SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY JUST MIGHT NOT SEE THAT.

LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN EXPAND THE WAYS THAT FOLKS GET ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE, THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ON OUR APPLICATION IS ABOUT OUTREACH AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE EXPANDED ON THIS YEAR IN OUR APPLICATION IS TO ASK APPLICANTS HOW THEY PLAN TO REACH OUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO LEARN ABOUT THE PROGRAM THAT WAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS HAS A COMMENT.

>> YES. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU CHRISTINE FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, IT'S VERY HELPFUL.

EVEN THOUGH I'VE HEARD SOME OF THIS, IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HEAR IT AGAIN, AND IT JUST FURTHER HELPS MY UNDERSTANDING.

IN FULL DISCLOSURE, I HAVE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT I DO SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND BOARD PRESIDENT FOR THE SOUTHSIDE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS ONE OF THE TARGETED NEIGHBORHOODS.

HOWEVER, I ALSO HAVE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS NOT A PAID POSITION.

IT IS A VOLUNTEER POSITION FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THAT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET ME JUST SAY THAT I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT IN THIS YEAR'S OR THIS UPCOMING PROPOSAL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO OUTREACH TO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS OR DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.

WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE JUST A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS FOR YOU IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME.

>> YES, ABSOLUTELY. I'M TAKING NOTE. THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING DOWN.

>> THE SUGGESTIONS THAT I WOULD MAKE IS THAT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT THE THREE OR FOUR TARGETED NEIGHBORHOODS, THREE OF THEM HAVE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS THE OTHER ONE DOES NOT.

THEY DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ADMINISTER A LARGE FEDERAL GRANT LIKE THAT.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING.

BUT THE SECOND THING IS THAT IN THE SIX YEARS OR THE 12 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WITH SOUTHSIDE, I HAVE NOT KNOWN ANY LARGE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS HAD CDBG FUNDS REACH OUT TO SOUTHSIDE BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO COME THROUGH ME AND THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

MY SUGGESTION IS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN HOW TO WORK SMARTER AND NOT HARDER.

YOU HAVE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

THOSE LARGE ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD PARTNER WITH THOSE SMALL ORGANIZATIONS TO GET THE WORD OUT BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THEM, THEY MOST OF THE TIME KNOW WHO IS IN NEED OF WHAT.

TO ME, THAT WOULD JUST BE A SMARTER,

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NOT HARDER WORK IDEA.

THAT WAY YOU CAN ENSURE THAT AT LEAST A LOT OF YOUR INFORMATION IS GETTING OUT TO THE PEOPLE WHO MAY NEED THE SERVICES THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING.

EVERYONE DOES NOT USE FACEBOOK AND THE INTERNET AND I THINK AS A COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IF WE DID NOT KNOW, WE DO HAVE A DIGITAL DIVIDE EVEN IN FLAGSTAFF.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY FOR INTERNET AND FEED THEIR KIDS SO WE NEED TO THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT HOW WE CONTINUE TO GET THE WORD OUT EVEN IN THIS AGE OF TECHNOLOGY.

I THINK I'LL LEAVE IT RIGHT THERE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK.

>> I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF PARTICIPATING IN AN ONLINE MEETING WITH SECRETARY FUDGE AND HUD STAFF REGARDING CDBG AS WELL AS OTHER FUNDING COMING OUT OF HUD.

SO JUSTINA FROM STAFF JOINED ME.

THANK YOU JUSTINA IF YOU ARE ON THIS CALL.

SHE ALERTED ME TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE TWO NEW ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITIES IN ARIZONA.

WE ASK THE QUESTION OF WHAT WILL THAT DO TO OUR ALLOTMENT HERE? BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T RELEASED THE BUDGET FOR THIS NEXT GO ROUND, THEY SAID THAT THEY WEREN'T SURE AND OF COURSE I PUT IN A PLUG TO PLEASE DON'T DECREASE THE ALLOTMENTS TO ANY OF THE COMMUNITIES.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT.

YOU ALL THIS CDBG IS QUITE SOMETHING TO MANAGE AT THE CITY LEVEL, SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE STAFF FOR ALL THE MOVING PARTS IN THIS, AS WELL AS THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PARTNERING ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING AS WELL AS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I SEE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS HAS A COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST HAD A CLARIFICATION FOR CHRISTINE, AND IT CAME FROM COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

ON THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, WE ARE THE FOUR OF THEM DO HAVE ASSOCIATIONS AND HAVE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, BUT I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING TO ADMINISTER THE REQUIREMENTS ON A CDBG GRANT AND IT'S QUITE AN AWESOME TASK.

IT'S REALLY A LOT OF WORK.

YOU MAY HAVE TOUCHED ON IT AND IT JUST WENT OVER MY HEAD.

IS YOUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH THAT THEY COULD REACH OUT TO WITH THE CITY TO HELP.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS KNOWS A LOT OF THE NEEDS OF HER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND COULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SOUTH SIDE TOO TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT, BUT THEY WOULD NEED HELP IN ADMINISTERING IT IF THEY WERE TO BE GRANTED THAT MONEY.

IS THAT OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE TO THEM? BECAUSE IF IS, UNLESS YOU'RE AN AGENCY THAT JUST MANAGES THESE GOVERNMENT GRANTS ALL THE TIME, IT'S AN OVERWHELMING TASK.

THAT MIGHT BE PREVENTING OTHER ASSOCIATIONS AND GROUPS FROM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS BECAUSE IT'S JUST THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO DO THAT.

>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

ANY OF THE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IS ABSOLUTELY ABLE TO REACH OUT TO A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT HAS EXPERIENCED AND CAPACITY TO MANAGE THESE GRANTS AND ASKED TO PARTNER IF THEY HAVE AN IDEA AND I WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY WILLING TO CHAT WITH THEM AND SAY, HEY, WHY DON'T YOU REACH OUT TO THESE FOLKS? I OFTEN MAKE CONNECTIONS WHERE SOMEONE WILL SAY WE WANT TO APPLY FOR BUSINESS ASSISTANCE AND I'LL SAY, THAT'S GREAT.

HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE COUNTY? THEY HAVE A BIT SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION, MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT RECREATING THE WHEEL HERE.

IN THE SAME WAY, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LINK THEM TO FOLKS WHO MAY BE INTERESTED.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE NON-PROFIT HAS AVAILABLE IN THEIR CAPACITY TO MANAGE ADDITIONAL GRANTS AS FAR AS PROJECTS THAT ARE TRYING TO THINK SO NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CITY WILL CARRY OUT.

WHEN WE HAVE THOSE STREETS IMPROVEMENTS, I THINK WE HAVE BEEN IN CHATS WITH NITA

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ABOUT MAYBE SOME SIDEWALKS THAT COULD USE SOME ACCESSIBILITY, SO THE IMPROVEMENTS AND SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE IF IT IS THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY, IF IT IS IN OUR DOMAIN, WE WOULD MANAGE THAT PROJECT.

WHEREAS IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS THEIR BUS STOP OR THEIR INFRASTRUCTURES AND THEY WOULD REQUEST THOSE FUNDS THEMSELVES AND MANAGE THE CAPACITY FOR THAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS HAS A COMMENT.

>> YES. JUST AS A NOTE OF CLARIFICATION.

WHEN I SPOKE ABOUT WORKING SMARTER AND NOT HARDER, I WAS NOT ALLUDING TO ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS PARTNERING WITH HOW DON'T WANT TO.

WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO, MAYBE I DIDN'T MAKE MYSELF CLEAR IS THAT OFTENTIMES WHEN LARGE ASSOCIATIONS OR LARGE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE PROJECTS, THEY RELY ON CERTAIN TYPES OF INFORMATION.

WHICH MEANS THAT EITHER PUT IT ON THEIR WEBSITE OR THEY PUT IT ON A FACEBOOK, OR SOMEHOW THEY DO IN ELECTRONIC ADVERTISING.

WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS COMING TO THOSE SMALL ORGANIZATIONS, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, AND HAVING THEM HELP YOU PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO GET TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THE HELP THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO THEM.

BECAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT IF YOU'VE GOT A PROGRAM FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE, THEY'RE NOT ON THE INTERNET, MOST OF THEM, NOR ARE THEY ACCESSING THE INTERNET.

I THINK THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO START THINKING SMART ABOUT HOW THEY GET INFORMATION OUT TO PEOPLE WHO NEED THE SERVICES.

OTHERWISE, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET HAS A COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALL OF YOUR WORK ON THIS.

I TOO AGREE THAT HOUSING IS TOP OF THE LIST FOR ME, AND I DO LIKE THE FOUR ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT THOSE STILL REMAIN PRETTY VALID TODAY.

I AM WONDERING YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE'S AN INTRODUCTION MEETING ON FEBRUARY FIRST, DID YOU STATE WHERE THAT MEETING WILL BE LOCATED AT? [OVERLAPPING].

>> NO, YOU'RE FINE. IT'S A VIRTUAL MEETING AND THE LINK CAN BE FOUND ON OUR WEBPAGE.

THAT IS AN EMAIL THAT I ALWAYS SEND OUT TO THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, BUT I WOULD BE GLAD TO SEND IT OUT TO EVERYONE IN THE CITY AS WELL.

THAT'S TO ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN YOUR CONTENT.

>> I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, HOUSE HAS A QUESTION.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. SORRY, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING ABOUT HOW INFORMATION GETS DISSEMINATED, IS THERE ANY ROOM OR CONSIDERATION OF ANOTHER, NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU SHOULD NOT DO THE VIRTUAL MEETING.

BUT JUST HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT SAME INFORMATION GETS OUT TO THE FOLKS THAT CANNOT ATTEND THAT VIRTUAL MEETING?

>> YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

WE ALSO HAVE A MEETING THAT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR FEEDBACK FROM TARGET NEIGHBORHOODS.

IN THE PAST, WE'VE DONE THAT IN PERSON.

I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT IN PERSON AGAIN, IF WE THINK THAT THAT'S THE MOST EFFECTIVE, I HAVEN'T FELT LIKE PEOPLE FELT SAFE COMING OUT, BUT I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO TRY IT AGAIN AND SEE IF IT'S A BETTER TIME FOR THEM TO COME.

WE ALSO MEET ONE-ON-ONE.

THE CONTINUUM OF CARE IS GREAT BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS ARE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THEIR CLIENTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WORK WITH, AND THEIR PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL.

I REALLY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BUILD UP THAT MEETING THAT'S HELD IN THE FALL BECAUSE IT'S WARMER OUT, IT ALLOWS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MEET WITH FOLKS ONE-ON-ONE THAT ARE MORE LIKELY TO COME OUT WHEN THE THINGS ARE WARMER AND IT'S NOT A COLD WINTER MORNING AT 10:00 A.M. AND NOBODY WANTS TO LEAVE THE HOUSE.

THAT IS ONE WAY I'VE BEEN WORKING TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE ABLE TO BE INVOLVED.

MAYBE NOT AT THIS MOMENT, BUT IN THE BROADER CDBG PLANNING AND PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PROCESS.

WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO FEEDBACK AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'LL DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO ALN AGAIN AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL IDEAS OR RECOMMENDATIONS AS WE COME OUT OF OUR COVID STYLE OF MEETING WITH FOLKS.

WE WILL RECORD THE MEETING AS WELL, SO THAT WAY IF FOLKS AREN'T ABLE TO COME DIRECTLY TO THAT MEETING, THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

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>> GREAT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING INTO THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

I KNOW IT'S A LOT AND IT'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF WORK TO EVEN ADMINISTER THIS PROGRAM, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR FLEXIBILITY THERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> PERHAPS THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS WOULD WANT TO INVITE PEOPLE TO A LOCATION WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE MEMBERS OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD COULD JOIN THE TEAMS MEETING WITH A SCREEN OR SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW, I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE.

WHAT I'M HEARING FROM COUNCIL IS THAT HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION ARE ABSOLUTE PRIORITIES.

BUT THAT ALL FOUR OF THESE PRIORITIES, I THINK THAT I'M HEARING THAT WE'D LIKE ALL FOUR TO REMAIN AS OUR PRIORITIES, BUT JUST EMPHASIZING HOUSING.

IF I AM NOT CHARACTERIZING THAT CORRECTLY, COULD SOMEONE CHIME IN?

>> MAYOR DAGGETT, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT REALLY QUICKLY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT HISTORICALLY THE PRIORITIES ARE AS LONG AS IT FITS WITHIN ANY OF THOSE PRIORITIES, IT'S AWARDED THE ADDITIONAL POINTS WE'VE NEVER RANKED THE PRIORITIES BEFORE.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE OPEN TO DOING IF THAT'S COUNCIL DIRECTION.

BUT JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW, ANY PROJECTS THAT COME IN UNDER THESE CATEGORIES WILL GIVE US ADDITIONAL POINTS.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO ZERO IN ON A SPECIFIC ONE, YOU ARE GOING TO WANT TO PICK JUST THAT.

OR LIKE I SAID, IF YOU WANT TO DIRECT US TO RANK THEM AND GIVE DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF POINTS, THAT'S CERTAINLY AN OPTION AS WELL.

WE'VE JUST KEPT IT SIMPLE IN THE PAST.

>> THANK YOU, CHRISTINE.

ARE THERE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AWARDING AN EXTRA POINT OR TWO TO HOUSING VERSUS HAVING EACH OF THESE ITEMS BE OUR COUNCIL PRIORITIES.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY?

>> WELL, I'M AT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, BUT IT'S MY OPINION THAT HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE EMPHASIS THAN THE OTHER TWO.

LET ME JUST TALK ABOUT HOMELESSNESS FOR A MINUTE.

IN THIS TOWN, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE CAMPING IN OUR FOREST OR ON OUR STREETS, AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE POLICY OF THIS CITY.

BUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT SAME COIN IS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE OPTIONS OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE SO THAT THEY DON'T GET FORCED INTO LIVING ON THE STREET OR LIVING IN THE FOREST.

THAT'S MY OPINION, BUT I REALIZE THERE'S 6,000 PEOPLE ON COUNCIL HERE. THANK YOU.

>> I SAID, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

NEXT WE HAVE VICE MAYOR ASLAN HAS A COMMENT.

>> THANKS FOR THE CONVERSATION, EVERYBODY.

NOT TO BE TOO CHEEKY HERE, BUT IN ORDER TO BE A BIT BLUNT, WE HAVE DECLARED A HOUSING CRISIS.

WE HAVEN'T DECLARED A WORKFORCE JOB TRAINING CRISIS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

>> WELL, IT'S CHEEKY, BUT [LAUGHTER] OFTEN.

SORRY, VICE MAYOR, I JUST COULDN'T RESIST.

I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY THAT HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS WOULD BE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE RANK THEM, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE COULD SOLVE OUR HOMELESSNESS OR OUR HOUSING PROBLEM IF WE WERE PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE OR DID I CONFUSE PEOPLE? NO, OKAY.

WE WANT TO STOP PEOPLE FROM BEING HOMELESS.

WE WANT TO GET TO THEM BEFORE THEY GET TO THAT POINT.

BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S JUST BUILDING OUR HOMELESS POPULATION ISSUE.

THAT GOES BACK TO MY ORIGINAL COMMENT REGARDING LARGER ORGANIZATIONS AND GETTING INFORMATION OUT TO PEOPLE AND CATCHING THEM BEFORE THEY DROPPED THROUGH THAT CRACK.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

THE QUESTION LAID OUT BEFORE US IS WHETHER WE WANT TO ASK STAFF TO GIVE

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AN EXTRA POINT TO APPLICATIONS THAT DEAL WITH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS OR WHETHER WE WANT TO JUST GO ON THE RECORD THAT THOSE ARE OUR TOP PRIORITIES, BUT THAT ALL FOUR OF THESE WILL BE RANKED EQUALLY.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE HAS A COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DID SEE SARAH DARR RAISED HER HAND RIGHT BEFORE MY COMMENTS, SHE MIGHT SAY SOMETHING THAT SPEAKS TO WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, BUT I CAN DIFFER AND LET HER GO FIRST.

>> THANK YOU. YES. SARAH ALWAYS HAS SOMETHING WISE TO SAY.

>> THOSE ARE SOME HIGH EXPECTATIONS THERE, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ELIMINATE THE TWO THAT YOU ARE THINKING OF AS LOWER PRIORITIES.

WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE FOUR.

IF THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS YOU WOULD REALLY LIKE TO FOCUS ON, YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ELIMINATE.

PLEASE DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE LIMITED TO FOUR.

BUT OF COURSE WE'RE HAPPY TO FOLLOW YOU THROUGH YOUR DIRECTION, WHETHER WE RANK THEM, WHETHER WE ASSIGN 10 POINTS TO THE TOP TWO AND FIVE POINTS TO THE BOTTOM TWO HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO SO. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU. THAT WAS HELPFUL, SARAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I THINK FOR ME, DEFINITELY HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS ARE THE TOP.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE OTHER TWO DROP-OFF BECAUSE I HONESTLY THINK THAT THEY ARE INTERCONNECTED.

I MAY BE LEANING TOWARDS A PRIORITIZATION WHERE WE MAY BE AWARDING EXTRA POINT FOR ADDRESSING HOUSING OR HOMELESSNESS DIRECTLY.

BUT CERTAINLY WORKFORCE JOB TRAINING AND WORKING TOWARDS STABILITY, THERE IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO PREVENTING SOMEONE FROM BEING ONE PAYCHECK AWAY FROM EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

I SEE IT AS RELATED AND THE SAME WITH NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.

SPEAKING TO THE SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THAT SPEAKS AGAIN DIRECTLY INTO COST OF HOUSING, RISK OF EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

I THINK THAT THEY CAN BOTH EXIST THERE, BUT MAYBE, I SAY SIMPLE SOLUTION.

I KNOW IT CREATES A COMPLICATION FOR THE TEAM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE SIMPLEST THING WOULD BE JUST TO AWARD THAT EXTRA POINT RATHER THAN REDUCING OUR PRIORITIES HERE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE FEEDBACK COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

IF I CAN JUST MAKE A SUGGESTION, I WOULD SUGGEST DOING 10 AND FIVE INSTEAD OF JUST ONE POINT, IT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIGGER IMPACT, I THINK.

BUT AGAIN, YOUR DISCRETION, OF COURSE, OR YOUR DIRECTION.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, SWEET.

>> THANK YOU. GREAT DISCUSSION.

I'M IN AGREEMENT THAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY OF THE FOUR DROP-OFF, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DO THE RANKING AND CHRISTINE IF YOU THINK THAT THE 10 AND FIVE, IF THAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION, I'M WILLING TO GO WITH THAT AS LONG AS WE CAN KEEP THE FOUR ON THERE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. STAFF, IF WE GO IN THIS DIRECTION OF THE ADDITIONAL POINTS, HOWEVER, THAT NEEDS TO WORK OUT IN TERMS OF THE RANKING.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE AS A DIRECTION FOR YOU?

>> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A DIFFERENT DIRECTION TO STAFF? I EVEN GAVE UNMUTE TIME.

I THINK THAT YOU HAVE YOUR DIRECTION AND THANKS AGAIN TO HOUSING STAFF FOR MANAGING THIS VERY BIG PROGRAM AND DOING IT SO WELL.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. YOU TOO. ALL RIGHT.

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NOW, WE ARE MOVING DOWN TO ITEM 11B, WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM UPDATE, AND I SEE THAT WE HAVE STAFF HERE.

HELLO, GENTLEMEN, TO GIVE US THE PRESENTATION.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL.

IT'S NICE TO SEE EVERYONE.

[INAUDIBLE] WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT BATTALION CHIEF.

TODAY MYSELF AND CAPTAIN OF FOREST HEALTH NEIL CHAPMAN ARE EXCITED TO DELIVER A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL DISCUSSING THE ROLE OF FOREST HEALTH WITHIN WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT.

AS WE BEGIN, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN MY CAMERA OFF AS NEIL AND I WILL BE SHARING SOME SLIDES, AND I WILL TURN IT BACK ON AS WE CONCLUDE FOR THE COMMENTS AND QUESTION PORTION.

I'LL TURN THAT OFF NOW AND SHARE THE SCREEN AND WE'LL START OUR PRESENTATION.

CAN EVERYBODY SEE THAT FIRST SLIDE WITH THE PICTURE DEPICTS?

>> YES.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM WITHIN THE FLAGSTAFF FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND REALLY WE'LL TRY TO DO WITHIN THE PRESENTATION IS DEFINE THE PROBLEM OF WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT.

WE'LL DO THAT THROUGH TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FIRE ECOLOGY AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO SOME SOLUTIONS AT THE LANDSCAPE AND PROJECT LEVEL.

WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT IS HOUSED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION SECTION, DEPUTY CHIEF JERRY BILLS OVERSEES COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION.

I'M IN THE ROLE OF WILDFIRE BATTALION CHIEF.

NEIL CHAPMAN IS OBVIOUSLY THE CAPTAIN OF FOREST HEALTH.

THEN DYLAN GUFFEY WHO IS NOT WITH US TONIGHT IS OUR CAPTAIN OF WHAT WE CALL OPERATIONS.

I'LL JUST TOUCH BRIEFLY ON WHAT HE DOES, SINCE THIS PRESENTATION IS RELATED MORE TO FOREST HEALTH.

DYLAN'S PRIMARY FOCUS IS OVERSEEING OUR WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT CREW, CREW 1, AND IMPLEMENTING ON THE GROUND OPERATIONS SUCH AS HAND THINNING, INITIAL ATTACK RESPONSE.

DYLAN DOES A LOT WORKING WITH OUR LINE PERSONNEL OVERSEAS THERE, TRAINING FOR 48 HOUR SHIFT MEMBERS AND THEN DOES A LOT OF OVERSIGHT AND UPDATING FOR EQUIPMENT AND APPARATUS RELATED TO WILDLAND FIRE.

OUR WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, IF WE'RE CONSIDERING OUR MISSION AND VISION, REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS LIVING WITH FIRE AND A FIRE DEPENDENT ECOSYSTEM AND PREPARING THE COMMUNITY RESOURCES TO RECEIVE A NATURALLY OCCURRING AND HUMAN CAUSED WILDLAND FIRE WITHOUT ANY CATASTROPHIC IMPACTS.

WE DO THIS THROUGH ENGAGING IN INITIATIVES AND TACTICS COME INTO COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION EFFORTS.

SOME EXAMPLES OF THESE INCLUDE FWPP, THE FLIGHT STAFF CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, AND MANY MITIGATION AND PREPAREDNESS EFFORTS THROUGH COMMUNITY AND AGENCY PARTNERSHIPS.

WHEN WE REFER TO COMMON TACTICS DESCRIBED HERE IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND BOX IS OUR 70S, WE MEAN WORKING WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BETTER INFORM AND EDUCATE AND ENGINEER A FIRE ADAPTED BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE BUILDING MATERIALS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE CODE.

WE ENFORCE FIRE CODES AND ORDINANCES, WE PROVIDE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES, AND WE ENABLE THE COMMUNITY TO BECOME MORE FIRE ADAPTED.

WE IDENTIFY WILDLAND FIRE AS A PROBLEM, BUT IT'S A PROBLEM WITHOUT A REAL END STATE.

IT'S A PROBLEM THAT REQUIRES, EXCUSE ME, CONSISTENT MITIGATION.

WITH THAT, NEIL CHAPMAN WILL HELP US TO BETTER DEFINE THAT PROBLEM IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES.

>> THANK YOU, PAUL. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

OUR CHALLENGE WITHIN WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT REALLY IS THE SOCIAL, ECONOMIC, AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF UNNATURAL HIGH SEVERITY FOREST FIRE.

SOMETIMES WE THINK OF THESE THREE THINGS AS WHAT WE CALL THE TRIPLE BOTTOM LINE.

2014 COST OF WAITING STUDY BY NAU WA FRANKIE COLLEGE OF BUSINESS, GAVE US SOME COST ESTIMATES FOR SOME PRIORITY AREAS AROUND FLAGSTAFF.

THESE NUMBERS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A FIRE THAT WAS SIMILAR IN SIZE AND INTENSITY TO THE SCHULTZ FIRE.

IF THAT OCCURRED IN THE UPPER RIO DE FLAG WATERSHED, WE'RE LOOKING AT 616 MILLION TO 1.2 BILLION DOLLARS IN COSTS.

THEN THE UPPER LAKE MARY WATERSHED, WE'RE LOOKING AT 106 MILLION TO 271 MILLION DOLLARS IN COSTS.

REALLY WE ALL KNOW THE STORY.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SETTING THE FOUNDATION HERE AS WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING ABOUT FOREST HEALTH.

[OVERLAPPING] HOW WAS OUR FORESTS CHANGED OVER TIME? WELL, THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES WILL SHOW JUST HOW SIGNIFICANTLY OUR STRUCTURE AND PATTERN HAS CHANGED.

STRUCTURE MEANS THE VERTICAL DISTRIBUTION OF TREES.

IF YOU'RE STANDING IN THE FOREST,

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DO YOU SEE BIG TALL TREES? DO YOU SEE SHORT TREES? ARE THERE LADDER FUELS THAT CONNECTS FROM THE GRASSES UP TO THE CANOPY OF TREES? THE PATTERN BASICALLY MEANS THE DISTRIBUTION OF TREES AS IF YOU WERE LOOKING DOWN FROM ABOVE.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS AND YOU CAN SEE THE PATTERN OF TREES, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD CALL THE PATTERN.

THIS REALLY IS A BIG DIFFERENCE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER TIME IN OUR FOREST.

THIS PICTURE HERE IS JUST NORTH OF FLAGSTAFF NEAR KENDRICK PARK, IT'S A SPOT CALLED WALKER LAKE.

THE TOP PHOTO IS FROM 1871 TAKEN BY TIMOTHY O'SULLIVAN AND 2004 ON THE BOTTOM, I BELIEVE THAT'S TAKEN BY NEIL WINTHROP.

THE TOP PHOTO, YOU CAN REALLY SEE THERE WE HAVE AN OPEN CANOPY OF FOREST.

OUR STRUCTURE BASICALLY IS MOSTLY TALL TREES, MOSTLY OLD TREES WITH A FEW LADDER FUELS.

OUR PATTERN WOULD BE TREES AS INDIVIDUALS OR TREES AS GROUPS WITH SPACES IN-BETWEEN.

REALLY, AS YOU LOOK AT THAT TOP PHOTO, THERE'S NO WAY A CROWN FIRE IS GOING TO RUN THROUGH THAT FOREST.

IT'S GOING TO STAY MAYBE IN A SINGLE TREE OR A GROUP OF TREES AND THEN DROP TO THE GROUND.

THIS PHOTO HERE IS A FERN MOUNTAIN ALONG HARTPURY ROAD, FOREST ROAD 151.

ON THE TOP THERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 1880S.

IT'S AN UNKNOWN PHOTOGRAPHER, AND THE BOTTOM 1988, AGAIN TAKEN BY NEIL WINTHROP.

THEN YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE FOREST DENSITY CHANGES.

THIS ONE REALLY DOCUMENTS THAT TRANSITION OF OPEN GRASSLAND TO CLOSED CANOPY FOREST.

THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE HOW IN SOME PLACES IT'S REALLY NOT JUST IN THE FOREST, RESTORE THOSE GRASSLANDS.

HOW DID WE SEE THESE CHANGES OCCURRING? WELL, FIRE SUPPRESSION AND FIRE EXCLUSION.

FIRE SUPPRESSION REFERS TO THE INTENTIONAL MANAGEMENT STRATEGY TO REMOVE NATURAL LIGHTNING CAUSED IGNITIONS.

FIRE EXCLUSION IS THE ELIMINATION OF CULTURAL BURNING FROM THE LANDSCAPE.

SUPPRESSION AND EXCLUSION BASED MANAGEMENT BEGAN IN NORTHERN ARIZONA AROUND 1876.

NATURALLY OCCURRING SOUTHWESTERN PONDEROSA PINE AND DRY MIXED CONIFER FORESTS FORMED AS THE RECEDING ICE AGE TRANSITIONED INTO OUR CURRENT CLIMATE AROUND 12,000 YEARS AGO.

NATURAL FIRE RETURN INTERVALS WERE BASED ON LOW SEVERITY FIRE AND RANGED FROM EVERY 2-10 YEARS.

CONSIDER THAT IT ONLY TOOK ABOUT 120 YEARS OF FIRE SUPPRESSION AND EXCLUSION TO CREATE OUR CURRENT WILDFIRE CRISIS.

THAT AMOUNTS TO LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE LIFETIME OF OUR CURRENT FORESTS AND INDICATES JUST HOW IMPACTFUL GOOD FIRE IS TO THE HEALTH OF OUR FORESTS.

THIS PICTURE SHOWS TREE RINGS AND IT'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS A TREE COOKIE.

THINK OF IT AS A SLICE OUT OF THE STEM OF THE TREE.

WHEN TREE BARK BURNS IN A LOW INTENSITY FIRE, THE TREE SURVIVES, BUT THAT SPECIFIC TREE RING WILL BE LEFT WITH A PERMANENT MARK CALLED THE FIRE SCAR.

THE WHITE NUMBERS ARE DATES OF FIRE SCARS ON THESE TREE RINGS.

FROM 1489-1841, THIS TREE EXPERIENCED AT LEAST 31 FIRES.

A 1984 PAPER BY DIETRICH AND SWETON SURVEYED A SOUTHWESTERN PONDEROSA PINE STAND AND DISCOVERED THE AREA TO HAVE A MEAN FIRE RETURN INTERVAL OF JUST TWO YEARS BETWEEN 1722 AND 1,900.

THE INTENT THERE IS JUST A REALLY TALK ABOUT HOW FREQUENT THESE FORESTS WERE BURNING HISTORICALLY AND THOSE FIRES WERE STAYING ON THE GROUND, AND REALLY JUST A PERFECT ALIGNMENT OF WHAT OUR COMMUNITY COULD LIVE WITH IS THAT FIRE VERSUS THE FIRE THAT WE'RE HAVING NOW.

>> THANK YOU, NEIL, I WILL TAKE THE NEXT SLIDE.

>> EXCUSE ME, SORRY ABOUT THAT LITTLE TECHNICAL ERROR HAD TO WORK THROUGH.

GREAT IMAGES WITH THOSE LAST FEW SLIDES THAT REALLY DOCUMENT THE CHANGES OVER THE LAST 100 PLUS YEARS.

THIS SLIDE HELPS TO ILLUSTRATE SOME CHANGES TO THE PONDEROSA PINE ENVIRONMENT OVER THE LAST 80 YEARS.

WE CAN'T CITE A SOURCE HERE TO TELL EXACTLY WHERE THESE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN, BUT THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THEY ARE IN THE SAME AREA.

STARTING IN THAT LOWER LEFT-HAND CORNER THERE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE ALTERING OF A FOREST STRUCTURE AND THE TIMELINE WITH THIS CORRELATE REALLY WELL TO WHAT WE SAW PREVIOUSLY IN FERN MOUNTAIN.

IN THAT LOWER LEFT-HAND CORNER, THAT PONDEROSA PINE DURING THE EARLY DAYS OF THE TIME PERIOD OF FULL SUPPRESSION AND FIRE EXCLUSION.

THAT PICTURE IS IN 1909.

WE'RE IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF DECADES OF REALLY REMOVING FIRE FROM THE LANDSCAPE.

WORKING IN A DIAGONAL UP TO THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE, THAT IMAGE SHOWING 1948, WE START TO SEE THE IMPACTS OF ROUGHLY 40 YEARS OF FIRE BEING REMOVED FROM THE LANDSCAPE AND A LITTLE BIT OF THAT ENCROACHMENT THAT NEIL'S TALKING ABOUT.

STAYING ALONG THAT SAME LINE, WE'LL GET INTO THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER, AND THIS IS 80 TOTAL YEARS FROM THAT FIRST PICTURE AND YOU CAN SEE JUST HOW DIFFERENT THAT ENVIRONMENT IS.

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WE ATTRIBUTE MOST OF THAT CHANGE TO REMOVING FIRE FROM THE LANDSCAPE AND ALSO REMOVING ANY SORT OF AGRICULTURAL BURNING OR TIMBER HARVESTING THAT WOULD HAVE OCCURRED WITH SOME OF THOSE INDIGENOUS POPULATIONS.

FROM THERE WE'LL GO TO THE UPPER LEFT-HAND CORNER.

THAT PICTURE IS MEANT TO ILLUSTRATE JUST HOW FIRE IS INTENDED TO MOVE THROUGH THE LANDSCAPE.

WE CAN USE THIS IMAGE TO TALK ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF FIRE.

IF WE'RE IN JUNE OR DURING THE SUMMER SEASON, WHICH IS OUR WILDFIRE SEASON AND WE HAVE A RED FLAG DAY, WHICH MEANS HIGH TEMPERATURES, LOW RH, AND HIGH WIND AND WE HAD A FIRE LIKE THIS IN A TREATED AREA OR AN AREA THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS LOWER LEFT-HAND CORNER.

THIS IS A FIRE THAT WE CAN GET STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL WITH.

OUR SHIFT PERSONNEL OR WOODLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT CREW, ALL OF OUR PARTNER FIREFIGHTING AGENCIES, FEDERAL AND STATE AND MUNICIPAL, WE CAN RESPOND TO THIS AND WE CAN DO WHAT'S CALLED A DIRECT ATTACK OR WE CAN GET RIGHT UP ALONG THIS FIRES EDGE USING HAND TOOLS, WATER, CHAINSAWS AND WE CAN FIGHT THIS FIRE.

I THINK IT'S ALSO A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT SOME MISCONCEPTIONS.

FIRE ONLY GOES OUT WITH THE FUNDAMENTAL EFFORTS OF HAND TOOLS AND MIXING SOIL AND WATER IN THE BURNING DEBRIS.

THAT'S A GREAT ILLUSTRATION OF THAT.

THIS IS ALSO A REALLY GOOD PICTURE OF WHAT A GOOD PRESCRIBED FIRE MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

NOW IF WE'RE COMING INTO THE FALL OR WINTER SEASON AND WE DON'T HAVE SNOW ON THE GROUND AND WE HAVE A WEATHER WINDOW, WE CAN MOVE FIRE THROUGH THE ECOSYSTEM AS IT'S INTENDED ALONG THE GROUND.

THE CONTRAST OF THAT IS LOWER RIGHT-HAND PICTURE.

WHEN NEIL MENTIONED A CROWN FIRE, THIS IS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS A CATASTROPHIC IMPACT AND A PONDEROSA PINE FOREST AND STRATEGICALLY AND TACTICALLY, THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO WITH THIS HERE.

WE WOULD BEGIN WHAT WE CALL AN INDIRECT ATTACK.

WE WOULD BE MOVING WAY OUT OF THIS FIRE'S WAY AND DOING WHAT WE CALL PREPPING OTHER RIDGE LINES, PUTTING IN HAND LINES, DOING THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE ONLY OPTION WE WOULD HAVE AT THIS POINT WOULD BE TO PUT MORE FIRE ON THE GROUND HOPEFULLY BACK INTO THIS CROWN FIRE TO REMOVE ANY FUEL BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO GET ANY FURTHER AND EXTEND ITS FIRING PATTERN.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FIRE, BEING LOCAL, THAT MEANS DIFFERENT VEGETATION TYPES REACT DIFFERENTLY TO FIRE.

IN THE GREATER FLAGSTAFF REGION, I THINK WE CULTURALLY INFLUX THAT.

WE USUALLY REFER TO THE ELEVATION HERE AS 7,000 FEET.

BUT THIS SLIDE ILLUSTRATES SOME OF THOSE VEGETATION TYPES THAT WE EXPERIENCED.

IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS AROUND FLAGSTAFF, THE ELEVATION KEEP IT DOWN TO AROUND 6,000 FEET SO WE'LL SEE SOME OF THIS PINYON JUNIPER MOVING UP ALONG 7,000 FEET, WE SEE A LOT OF THE PONDEROSA PINE AND MIXED CONIFER.

WHEN YOU START TO GET UP ON THE TOP OF THE SLOPE OF THE PEACH, YOU'LL START SEEING SOME OF THAT MIXED CONIFER SPECIES, DRY MIX CON, WET MIXED CON.

THEN WE MOVE INTO SPRUCE FIR IN SUBALPINE AND THOSE SPECIES WILL BE UP AROUND THAT 11,000 FOOT TREELINE AREA.

IF YOU'RE UP AT THE ARIZONA SNOWBALL, THAT'S AT THE TOP OF THE PEAKS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE MOST SNOW IMPACT IN THE END OF THAT TREELINE.

THE HISTORY OF FULL SUPPRESSION AND EXCLUSION OF FIRE HAS RESULTED IN AN ECOSYSTEM, MEANING LARGE LANDSCAPE TREATMENT ALLOWING FIRE SUPPRESSION RESOURCES THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TACTICALLY, LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PREVIOUS SLIDE WITH FIRE TO PROTECT PERSONAL AND COMMUNITY RESOURCES, AND GIVEN FIRE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT THOSE CATASTROPHIC IMPACTS.

WE CAN DO THAT WITHIN OUR PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO DO THAT AND RESTORE THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT THROUGH NATURE-BASED SOLUTIONS AND USING TOOLS SUCH AS THINNING, LARGE LANDSCAPE EFFORTS, MECHANICAL AND THEN HEARING CREW LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT WITH CREW 1 AND THEN MOVING FIRE THROUGH THE ECOSYSTEM THAT'S MEANT TO PRESCRIBED FIRE AND WILDFIRE, THAT MEANS PREVIOUSLY PLANNED OBJECTIVES.

WITH THAT, I MOVE IT BACK OVER TO NEIL.

>> THANK YOU, PAUL. GETTING INTO THE FLAGSTAFF WATERSHED PROTECTION PROJECT, THIS MAP SHOWS THE FOOTPRINT.

THE UPPER RIO TO FLAG WATERSHED, THE LIGHT BLUE AREA TOWARDS THE TOP MIDDLE OF THE MAP IS ABOUT 50,000 ACRES.

THE UPPER LAKE MARY WATERSHED DOWN BELOW THAT, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN IS ABOUT 36,000 ACRES.

THE ORIGINAL 2012 FWPP BOND WAS TRANSFORMATIONAL.

IT PASSED WITH 74 PERCENT APPROVAL AND PROVIDED $10 MILLION FOR WILDFIRE RISK REDUCTION TREATMENTS ON ALL LAND JURISDICTIONS.

THAT REALLY WAS UNIQUE AT THE TIME FOR A MUNICIPALITY TO GREEN LIGHT AN EFFORT TO COMMIT LOCAL RESOURCES TO FEDERAL LANDS, STATE LANDS AND BOTH CITY AND COUNTY AND PRIVATE LANDS.

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IT WAS A GAME CHANGER FOR US.

WE CAN ALSO DOCUMENT NOW OVER $40 MILLION THAT'S BEEN LEVERAGED FROM THAT $10 MILLION INVESTMENT.

WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT A CHART AND WE CAN SHOW 4-1 IN DOLLARS THAT HAVE COME IN BASED ON WHAT WE'VE COMMITTED.

THAT REALLY IS AMAZING.

THE INITIAL WORK OF FLAGSTAFF WATERSHED PROTECTION PROJECTS FOCUSED ON THE DRY LAKE HILLS AND INSIDE CITY LIMITS.

AS OF LAST YEAR, WE ARE NOW IMPLEMENTING PROJECTS IN THE MORMON MOUNTAIN AREA AS WELL.

THE OVERALL INTENT IS TO RESTORE THE NATURAL STRUCTURE AND PATTERN ACROSS BOTH OF THESE WATERSHEDS.

ALTHOUGH SIGNIFICANT FEDERAL DOLLARS ARE NOW AVAILABLE THROUGH THE BI-PARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW AND THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, COMPREHENSIVE WILDFIRE RISK REDUCTION REQUIRES LANDSCAPE LEVEL INVESTMENTS AND NOT ENOUGH FUNDING IS AVAILABLE TO MEET EVERY NEED.

PRIORITIES AND FEDERAL FUNDING REQUESTS MUST CONTINUE TO BE COLLABORATIVELY DEVELOPED IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF SERVICE OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS.

HERE'S A SCREENSHOT OF OUR FWPP THINNING TRACKING SHEET.

YOU CAN SEE HERE HOW WE KEEP TRACK OF SPECIFIC PROJECTS, TOTAL ACRES, ACRES COMPLETED.

JUST OVER 54,000 ACRES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR THINNING WITHIN THE FWPP FOOTPRINT.

NEARLY 14,000 ACRES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE UPPER RIO DE FLAG WATERSHED.

THIS IS A FOREST SERVICE MAP OF THINNING PROJECTS, AND IT SHOWS ABOUT 25,000 ACRES THAT ARE CURRENTLY COMMITTED TO WHAT WE WOULD CALL A FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM OF WORK.

THIS MEANS WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS WILL BE OFFERED AS EITHER A TIMBER SALE OR A SERVICE CONTRACT, DEPENDING ON HOW THE ASSESSMENTS COME OUT FOR THOSE ACRES, THE FOREST SERVICE HAS DIFFERENT CONTRACTING MECHANISMS. THIS MEANS ABOUT HALF OF THE ENTIRE WATERSHED IS BEING PREPPED FOR GROUND-BASED MECHANICAL THINNING.

THESE ACRES ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO THE GROWING FOREST RESTORATION PRODUCT UTILIZATION INDUSTRY BASED ON THE WEST SIDE OF NORTHERN ARIZONA'S PONDEROSA PINE FOREST.

A RELIABLE SUPPLY OF GROUND-BASED MECHANICAL ACRES IS THE NUMBER ONE NEED FOR PRIVATE SECTOR BUSINESSES TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THIS WORK, WHICH REDUCES THE PER ACRE COST FOR ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.

THE RED CIRCLE IS THE 1600 ACRE, THE LEROUX PROJECT ANALYSIS AREA.

THIS AREA IS A PRIORITY AS IT COVERS A GAP IN THE NEPA APPROVED ACRES BETWEEN FORT VALLEY AND THE COCINA PEAKS WILDERNESS.

THE LEROUX PROJECTS ANALYSIS ALSO INCLUDES AROUND 900 ACRES THAT ARE TOO STEEP FOR TRADITIONAL GROUND-BASED EQUIPMENT.

THIS ANALYSIS IS GOING THROUGH A SCOPING PERIOD RIGHT NOW.

IT WILL LIKELY BE PUT INTO A PROPER NEPA PROCESS LATER THIS SPRING, IF NOT EARLIER THIS SUMMER.

WE EXPECT ABOUT A YEAR FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS TO TAKE PLACE.

SOMETIME WE'LL HAVE TO GO INTO WRITING PRESCRIPTIONS AND GETTING THOSE APPROVED.

WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A YEAR-AND-A-HALF AND FOR ANY CONTRACTS COULD POSSIBLY BE AWARDED FOR THAT PROJECT AREA.

ALSO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS ANALYSIS PROCESS, WE CANNOT DETERMINE HOW TREATMENTS IN THIS AREA WILL REDUCE WILDFIRE RISK UNTIL AFTER THIS ANALYSIS IS COMPLETE.

WE CAN'T RUN FIRE MODELS UNTIL WE ACTUALLY HAVE TREATMENT PLANS IN PLACE.

WHEN THE NEPA IS COMPLETED AND WE HAVE A DOCUMENTED DESIRED CONDITION, AND THEN WE UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS TO GET TO THAT DESIRED CONDITION, WE CAN START TO RUN SOME OF THESE FIRE MODELS AND EXACTLY UNDERSTAND HOW THESE PROJECTS WILL IMPACT WILDFIRE IN THAT AREA.

STEEP SLOPE PROJECTS ARE INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE, OFTEN EXCEEDING $15,000 PER ACRE.

FWPP HAS COMMITTED OVER $5 MILLION IN THE DRY LAKE HILLS AREA TO THESE TREATMENTS.

WE'VE GOT SOME BACKGROUND IN THIS.

ARIZONA HAS A 25-YEAR TRACK RECORD OF SCIENCE MONITORING AND RESPONSE-BASED EXPERIENCE WHEN IT COMES TO THE EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR TRADITIONAL GROUND-BASED MECHANICAL THINNING.

TREATMENTS ON STEEP SLOPES ARE A RELATIVELY NEW APPROACH IN OUR AREA.

TREATMENT EFFECTIVENESS IS STILL BEING STUDIED.

THE OTHER NEW AREA THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN FWPP IS THE FORT VALLEY EXPERIMENTAL FOREST.

THIS PROJECT COVERS ABOUT 1,250 ACRES AND SHARES OVER 4 MILES OF PROJECT BOUNDARY WITH PRIVATE PROPERTIES IN THE FORT VALLEY AREA.

THIS EXPERIMENTAL FOREST IS MANAGED BY THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN RESEARCH STATION, NOT THE FLAGSTAFF RANGER DISTRICT OF THE COCONINO NATIONAL FORESTS.

ALTHOUGH THIS ADDS AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF ADMINISTRATION TO DEAL WITH, ROCKY MOUNTAIN RESEARCH STATION AND FLAGSTAFF RANGER DISTRICT STAFF ARE WORKING WITH US TO FIND A PATH FORWARD IN THIS AREA.

THEN THE LAKE MARY WATERSHED, 19,000 ACRES HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO A FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM OF WORK.

THE UPPER LAKE MARY WATERSHED, AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT HALF OF THE ENTIRE WATERSHED.

THIS EFFORT INCLUDES THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 2,000 ACRE PAIRED WATERSHED STUDY THAT WILL HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THINNING TREATMENTS IMPACT WATER SUPPLIES TO LAKE MARY.

I THINK THE TAKEAWAY FOR THESE MAPS IS I WANT YOU GUYS TO SEE

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THAT OVER HALF OF THESE WATERSHEDS ARE IN PROGRAMS OF WORK.

THESE PRIORITY AREAS WITHIN FWPP ARE INCREDIBLY WELL COVERED BY THE FLAGSTAFF RANGER DISTRICT.

THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

THIS GOES BACK TO ALMOST 12 YEARS OF COLLABORATIVE PLANNING THAT REALLY HAS GIVEN THE DISTRICT DIRECTION ON THE PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY, AND THESE PROJECTS HAVE TAKEN YEARS TO BOTH PLAN AND PREP AND PUT IN PLACE.

OFFERING TIMBER SALES AND TIMBER CONTRACTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS REALLY HAS TAKEN OVER 10 YEARS TO GET US TO THIS POINT.

LASTLY, WE JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THE ECONOMIC REALITIES OF CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRE.

THIS IS AN ANALYSIS PREPARED BY THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCE AUTHORITY.

THESE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE DATED.

THIS IS A 2019 ANALYSIS.

BUT I THINK IT GIVES US A REALLY GOOD IDEA OF THE IMPACTS OF CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRE.

TYPICALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COSTS RELATED WILDFIRE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIRECT OR INDIRECT.

A DIRECT COST WOULD BE THE COST ASSOCIATED TO SUPPRESSION AND/OR LOSS OF ANY PROPERTY.

INDIRECT COSTS WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE RECREATION AND TOURISM, WHICH IS REPRESENTED HERE IN THIS IMAGE AND ANY ADJUSTMENTS RELATED TO INSURANCE PREMIUMS. THERE ARE MANY MORE EXAMPLES OF BOTH, BUT THOSE ARE TWO THAT ARE REALLY RELATIVE TO OUR PRESENTATION INTO THE CITY.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE, ABOUT $1.3 BILLION IN REVENUE IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ESTIMATED 13 MILLION VISITORS TO THE SIX NATIONAL FORESTS WITHIN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

THIS ISN'T SPECIFIC TO THE COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST UNDER THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

BUT THOSE ARE THE REVENUE DOLLARS THAT ARE BROUGHT INTO THOSE COMMUNITIES JUST FROM RECREATION ALONE.

ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WE GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THOSE ECONOMIC IMPACTS CAN BE, NOT ONLY DUE TO CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRE, BUT JUST FORCED CLOSURES AND FIRE RESTRICTIONS AS THOSE ARE IMPLEMENTED.

THAT'S JUST A BRIEF EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THOSE IMPACTS.

WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CONCLUDE AND OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU BOTH FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION AND LOVELY PHOTO THERE AT THE END.

WELL, FIRST, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> NO, WE DO NOT, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM STAFF? NOT FROM STAFF, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THIS MEETING WITH ME, COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

MAYBE OTHERS WILL COME UP WITH SOME.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY HAS A COMMENT.

>> WELL, JUST REAL BRIEFLY, I JUST REALLY APPRECIATED THE EDUCATION AND VERY GOOD PRESENTATION.

THE COMMUNITY'S BEEN BEHIND THIS AND VERY INTERESTING, VERY PRODUCTIVE.

THANKS FOR THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO.

YOU AND THE WHOLE TEAM. THANK YOU.

>>THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET US PRESENT TONIGHT.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT AND JUST APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND THE EDUCATION.

FOREST HEALTH DEFINITELY IS A MAJOR COMPONENT IN OUR CARBON GOALS.

I'VE READ A LOT OF ARTICLES FROM CALIFORNIA WHO I'M GOING TO GUESS IS THE LEADING STATE IN OUR UNION FOR TRYING TO REACH CARBON NEUTRALITY AND YET TO THE FIRES HAVE SET THEM BACK OVER 19 YEARS.

WE REALLY CAN'T MOVE FORWARD IN ACHIEVING ANY CARBON EMISSION GOALS OF NET-ZERO EMISSIONS IF WE DON'T HAVE GOOD HEALTHY FOR US.

I APPRECIATE THIS EFFORT AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS FOR SURE.

>> GREAT POINTS. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

>> THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE TREATMENTS.

THE LAKE MARY PROJECT OR THE LAKE MARY AREA PROJECT, I UNDERSTAND FROM A SURFACE WATER PROTECTION STANDPOINT WHY THAT THAT'S INCLUDED IN OUR PRIORITIES.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT PROJECT VERSUS SAY MORE WORK INTO DRY HILLS OR FOCUSING MORE UP ON THE PEAKS BEFORE WE GO TO OTHER AREAS.

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CAN YOU ENLIGHTEN ME ON THAT?

>> SURE. WE OBVIOUSLY PRIORITIZE THE DRY LAKE HILLS AND THE PEAKS AND THE UPPER RIO DE FLAG BASED ON THAT COST AVOIDANCE STUDY.

THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON IN THE UPPER LAKE MARY WATERSHED AT THIS POINT IS A TIMBER SALE THAT WAS A TINY BIT OF REVENUE, CAME BACK TO THE FOREST SERVICE.

WE DID NOT HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE THOSE ACRES.

MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING SOME MONEY FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.

THERE'S A READINESS AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION INITIATIVE.

WE'RE GETTING SOME GRANTS FROM THAT ORGANIZATION.

WE'VE GOT THE NAVAL PRECISION OPTICAL INTERFEROMETER OVER THERE ON LAKE MARY ROAD.

THERE'S A LOT OF INTERESTS IN MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN REDUCE WILDFIRE RISKS TO THAT AREA.

THE NATIONAL FOREST FOUNDATION HAS BEEN PUTTING IN SOME FUNDS FOR THAT AREA.

OUR RECENT EFFORT AROUND GETTING THE COMMUNITY PROJECT FUNDING FROM THE FY22 OMNIBUS BILL, THERE WAS A 3.5 MILLION DOLLAR ALLOCATION TO THE CITY AND THAT MONEY IS ALLOCATED FOR THE UPPER LAKE MARY WATERSHED.

BUT CERTAINLY THE PRIORITIES IN NEARLY THE FIRST DECADE NOW AND FWPP REALLY WERE THE DRY LAKE HILLS AND THE UPPER RIO DE FLAG WATERSHED AS A WHOLE.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

BUT WE REALLY DID FOCUS OVER TIME IN RIO DE FLAG AND UPPER LAKE MARY IS A SECONDARY PRIORITY BASED ON THAT COST AVOIDANCE STUDY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND IT DOES ANSWER MY QUESTION.

THE FOCUS IS STILL GOING TO REMAIN UP THERE WHILE ALSO TACKLING THE LAKE MARY WATERSHED.

>> EXACTLY. THE NEW FUNDS THAT HAVE COME TO FWPP OVER THE LAST YEAR THROUGH THE FOREST SERVICE THOUGH, THOSE AREN'T GOING TO THE CITY.

IN THE TALKING POINTS DOCUMENT THAT WAS IN THE AGENDA ITEM, WE CLARIFIED THAT THERE IS ABOUT 11.6 MILLION GUARANTEED IN NOVEMBER OF 2021 OVER FIVE YEARS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE FUNDS GO INTO THE UPPER RIO DE FLAG WATERSHED AS WELL.

A LITTLE OVER ONE MILLION WAS ALLOCATED ALREADY, AND THAT MONEY WENT INTO EXPANDING THE ACREAGE TREATED WITHIN A SERVICE CONTRACT IN THE DRY LAKE HILLS AND FUTURE FUNDS WERE NOT ALLOCATED FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

BUT MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.

WHETHER WE NEED TO FUND THE NEPA FOR THE EXPERIMENTAL FOREST, WHETHER WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHER STEEP SLOPE BAKERS BASED ON THE ANALYSIS FOR THE GROUP PROJECT, WHETHER WE NEED TO LOOK AT SUBSIDIZING THE BIOMASS REMOVAL IN SOME OF THESE KEY AREAS.

THINGS ARE LOOKING REALLY GOOD FOR SAUL LOG OPPORTUNITIES IN NORTHERN ARIZONA RIGHT NOW.

THINGS REALLY AREN'T LOOKING AT WELL FOR US ON THE WEST SIDE HERE FOR BIOMASS REMOVAL.

TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN STRATEGICALLY TREAT THE MOST NUMBER OF ACRES IS REALLY THE WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO AFTER REDUCING RISKS ACROSS THE ENTIRE WATERSHED.

>> WHEN YOU SAY NOT LOOKING GOOD, ARE YOU TALKING THE ECONOMICS OF DEALING WITH SMALL DIAMETER TREES VERSUS BIOMASS?

>> CORRECT. WHEN WE SAY BIOMASS, WE HAVE THE TREE BRANCHES IN THIS TREE TOPS THAT END UP IN A SLASH PILE.

THERE'S ALSO THE RESIDUALS FROM A SAW MILL.

IF YOU'RE CUTTING A LOT OF WOOD, YOU MAKE A LOT OF SAWDUST.

AND REALLY THE ONLY PLACE AT SCALE THAT'S UTILIZING THIS MATERIAL IS IN SNOWFLAKE, ABOUT 130 MILES AWAY.

IT'S REALLY NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE TO BE MOVING OUR MATERIAL OVER THERE AND THEY ONLY CAN VACUUM UP ABOUT 15,000 ACRES WORTH OF FOREST PRODUCTS A YEAR.

AS WE'RE ABLE TO SCALE UP TO CLOSE TO 40,000 ACRES A YEAR OF SOLAR CAPACITY, WE'RE LAGGING IN THAT BIOMASS UTILIZATION CAPACITY.

WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY BOTH WITH SUSTAINABILITY, WITH PUBLIC WORKS IN THE LANDFILL WITH NAU.

WE'VE GOT ALL THESE PARTNERS AT THE TABLE AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE BREAK THROUGH AND BUILD SOME INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE FOREST TO TRY TO UTILIZE THIS MATERIAL.

WE KNOW THAT THIS STUFF IS EITHER GOING TO BURN IN A WILDFIRE, IT'S GOING TO BURN IN A PILE OUT IN THE WOODS OR WE CAN POSSIBLY BURN IT IN A FACILITY WHERE WE GET SOME RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND EMISSIONS CONTROL OUT OF IT.

WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY POWERFUL FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT KNOW A LOT ABOUT THIS WORK.

WE'RE EXCITED WHERE THINGS ARE GOING.

BUT AS OF TODAY, WE DON'T HAVE AN ADD SCALE UTILIZATION OF THIS MATERIAL IN THE FLAGSTAFF AREA.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'M SO GLAD THAT WE HAVE YOU TWO AND THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN A WAY THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? WELL, I THINK THAT'S IT.

WE ALL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> ONE LAST THING I KNOW, SOMEDAY I'M PRETTY SURE THE SNOW IS GOING TO MELT, WE'RE GOING TO SET UP A TOUR, WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU GUYS OUT IN THE WOODS,

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WE'RE GOING TO GO SEE SOME OF THESE OPERATIONS WHEN THEY'RE HAPPENING AND MAKE SURE YOU KEEP AN EYE OUT.

WE'RE GOING TO SET THIS UP FOR SOME TIME THIS SPRING OR SUMMER.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU EVERYONE.

>> MOVING ON DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 12, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS?

>> MAYOR, WE DO NOT.

>> INFORMATIONAL ITEMS 2 FROM THEIR COUNSEL AND STAFF AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS.

[13. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS TO/FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL, AND STAFF, AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS]

LET'S START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANTED TO DO A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO SCOTT OVERTON AND LYLE.

THEY WERE MY SNOW PLOW ANGELS LAST NIGHT AND I GOT TO DO A RIDE ALONG.

IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT FOR ALL OF COUNCIL.

IT GAVE ME SOME KNOWLEDGE FOR WHEN MY CONSTITUENTS TALKED TO ME AND ASKED ME QUESTIONS WHICH HAPPENED FIRST THING THIS MORNING, I COULD ANSWER IT WITH KNOWLEDGE AND HAVING THAT FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE REALLY WAS BENEFICIAL.

I GOT TO SEE MAYOR.

WE PLOWED HER CUL-DE-SAC LAST NIGHT AND SAW SOME OTHER FRIENDS ALONG THE WAY.

IT WAS JUST A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.

THANK YOU AGAIN TO LYLE AND SCOTT.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> MAYOR, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, JUST IMMENSE GRATITUDE FOR THE STREETS CREWS AND EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED IN CLEARING ALL OF THE STREETS AND KEEPING THE COMMUNITY SAFE.

YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A MASSIVE STORM THAT WE JUST SAW AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE PUT INTO CLEARING THE STREETS, KEEPING PEOPLE UPDATED, JUST LETTING US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND TRYING TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN THAT WAY, IT'S DEEPLY IMPACTFUL.

WE'VE SEEN SOME REALLY POWERFUL, I THINK PARTNERSHIPS THROUGH THIS STORM THAT I THINK ARE MAKING A BIG DIFFERENCE IN SHOWING THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE VERY UNITED WHEN THE TIME CALLS FOR IT, AND THIS IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THOSE TIMES, AND SO I'M JUST EXTREMELY GRATEFUL TO EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIS. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

>> YES. I JUST WANT ALL OF US TO JUST BE THANKFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN AND THEN I'M GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A POINT OF PRIVATE PERSONAL PRIVILEGE HERE, AND I'M GOING TO SHOUT OUT TO ONE OF OUR FORMER POLICE OFFICERS HE NOW WORKS FOR NAU, AND HE CAME BY MY HOUSE AND HE SAID, I GOT YOU, AND HE SHOVELED MY WHOLE DRIVEWAY, MY SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY UP, AND HE DID NOT HAVE TO DO THAT.

BUT HE SAID, I GOT YOU, AND I OFFERED HIM MONEY AND HE SAID NO, BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW ME, THAT'S NOT GOING TO STOP ME FROM DOING SOMETHING FOR HIM.

BUT ANYWAY, ERIC GREENWALD, WHEREVER YOU ARE, IF YOU HAPPEN TO EVER BE LISTENING TO THIS, YOU HAVE MY UNDYING GRATITUDE BECAUSE I WAS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, VICE MAYOR.

>> YEAH TWO FAIR ITEMS LAST WEEK, I THINK I'LL TAP THE BRAKES A LITTLE BIT.

NOTHING NEW TO ADD TONIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I'VE BEEN LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW HERE AND WATCHING AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF SNOWFALL ACCUMULATE JUST OVER THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING, AT LEAST UP HERE NEAR THE AIRPORT, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK LEADERSHIP AND MAYOR YOU FOR THE DECISION TO GO ALL VIRTUAL TODAY.

I THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE.

I ALSO GOT A TEXT DURING THE MEETING THAT FUSD IS CANCELING CLASSES AGAIN TOMORROW.

I BELIEVE THAT NAU IS GOING TO BE TOTALLY ONLINE AND NOT IN PERSON TOMORROW AS WELL.

THE SNOW CONTINUES.

THANK YOU TO LEADERSHIP FOR THE WISE DECISIONS AND THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.

I'M GOING TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY DURING THIS RECESS TO GO SHOVEL OUT OF BERM.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

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THANK YOU TO MOUNTAIN LINE AND TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WENT OUT TO THE MURDOCH CENTRE TO TALK ABOUT THE CIVIC SPACE AT THEIR NEW DOWNTOWN CONNECTIONS CENTER, AND OPEN DOORS.

OPEN DOORS AREN'T IN ACTION AT THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH.

THEY OFTEN HAVE REALLY GREAT ART EXHIBITIONS ABOUT TIMELY TOPICS, AND THEY'VE GOT ONE NOW AND IT'S MORE OF A DISCUSSION AND INFORMATION SHARING THAN IT IS AN ART EXHIBITION.

BUT IT'S CALLED ON THE VERGE, THE FLAGSTAFF HOUSING CRISIS, AND IT'S OPEN NOW AND IT GOES UNTIL MARCH 31ST.

THE NEXT TWO FIRST FRIDAYS THERE WILL BE PANEL DISCUSSIONS AND OUR OWN COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON FEBRUARY 3RD, AND ON MARCH 3RD ERIC WILL RETURN FROM HABITAT.

ADRIANA FISHER FROM THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HOUSING PROGRAM MANAGER AND SOMEONE FROM CATHOLIC CHARITIES HOUSING FOR HOPE, TALKING ABOUT THE NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT FOR SENIORS DOWNTOWN.

IF YOU CAN GET TO ONE OF THOSE, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL.

IT'S REALLY WORTHWHILE CONVERSATIONS GOING ON, AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO HABITAT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S NEXT THURSDAY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE HANDING OVER THE KEYS TO THEIR NEW TINY HOME TO THE RESIDENT WHO'S GOING TO BE MOVING IN.

CONGRATS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A FAIR ITEM, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION.

IF WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE IT SCHEDULED.

A DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

HOWEVER, THAT FALLS TO OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT ZONING CODE AND SO FORTH.

STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

>> I DO NOT. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

WE ARE GOING TO RECESS AND WE WILL COME BACK INTO SESSION AT 7:00 PM TO HANDLE THE TWO REMAINING ITEMS UNDER OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

EVERYONE GO SHOVEL, HAVE DINNER, WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, AND I'LL SEE YOU AGAIN AT 7:00 PM.

ALL RIGHT, BYE.

>> ALL RIGHT MAYOR.

IT IS SEVEN O'CLOCK.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, SO YOU CAN GET STARTED AT YOUR PLEASURE.

>> GREAT. WE ARE RESUMING OUR COUNCIL MEETING AND WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS ITEMS 10C AND 10D, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE STAFF READY TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS.

>> YES. MAYOR AND COUNCIL STERLING SOLOMON, YOUR CITY ATTORNEY.

THIS ITEM IS FOR YOU TO RATIFY ACTION OF A PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL BASED ON INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

BUT ESSENTIALLY THAT WAS AUTHORIZATION TO INITIATE LITIGATION.

OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE IT WAS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, I WOULDN'T BE AT LIBERTY TO SHARE ANYMORE THAN THAT.

OTHER THAN TO SAY THIS IS TO RATIFY THAT AUTHORIZATION GIVEN BY A PREVIOUS COUNCIL, AND THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU DO SO. THANK YOU.

>> CAN WE TAKE THEM BOTH AS ONE OR DO WE NEED TO TAKE THEM SEPARATELY? OKAY.

>> RIGHT. I WOULD PREFER THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST THAT YOU TAKE THEM SEPARATELY AND TO DO SO UNDER THE ITEM, THERE'S A STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION.

IT WOULD JUST BE A MOTION TO RATIFY A PREVIOUS CITY COUNCILS INSTRUCTION TO MYSELF IN MY OFFICE TO INITIATE LITIGATION AGAINST DESERT MOUSE MOUNTAIN ENERGY BASED ON INFORMATION PROVIDED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND THEN IN THE NEXT ITEM, IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING WITH RESPECT TO THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION.

>> RIGHT. CAN I GET A MOTION?

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COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS? OH, WAIT, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.

KARA, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I MEAN COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE? DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT?

>> NO, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS GOT IT.

>> ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, I'LL HAVE YOUR MOTION.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. LET'S SEE. WHERE ARE WE AT? I MOVED TO RATIFY A PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL INSTRUCTIONS TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO LITIGATE THEM SORRY, AGAINST DESERT MOUNTAIN ENERGY BASED ON INFORMATION PROVIDED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE A SECOND?

>> I SURE WOULD, I'LL SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION?

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? OKAY THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 10D.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RATIFY?

>> THIS IS COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

>> YES.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RATIFIED.

[LAUGHTER] CAN I GO AHEAD?

>> YES. OH. I MOVE TO RATIFY THE RATIFICATION OF OUR PREVIOUS CITY COUNCILS INSTRUCTION TO CITY I KNOW THAT'S THE WRONG ONE, RIGHT.

>> WE'RE AT THE NEXT ONE.

>> WE'RE ON 10D.

>> IN D TO MOVE TO RATIFY A PREVIOUS CITY COUNCILS INSTRUCTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO INITIATE LITIGATION AGAINST THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION AT ALL BASED ON INFORMATION PROVIDED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> JUST FOR THE RECORD JIM MCCARTHY JOINED THE MEETING AND I'M A AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THAT WRAPS UP EVERYTHING THAT WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS TONIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR RECONVENING SO THAT WE CAN ATTEND TO THOSE TWO ITEMS, AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

>> SORRY I WAS LATE.

>> THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.