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[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this work session, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]
LET OUR MAYOR KICK OFF THIS MEETING AND LAUNCH RIGHT INTO BUSINESS. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR.>> GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
[OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] I AM CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL? MAYOR DAGGETT HERE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE? COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY? AND COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE IS SENT ME A MESSAGE SAYING, "FOR ROLL-CALL, MY VOICE SOUNDS A LITTLE BROKEN, BUT I CAN HEAR."
>> GOT YOU. I THOUGHT [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER] COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS WOULD YOU READ ALOUD OUR MISSION STATEMENT.
>> THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, MATTHEWS, WOULD YOU READ THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
>> YES. THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL, HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THIS AREA'S INDIGENOUS NATION AND ORIGINAL STEWARDS.
THESE LANDS, STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS, BORDER MOUNTAINS SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.
WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.
WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE AS HOME.
>> THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER, TAKE IT AWAY.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
HEIDI, CAN YOU CAN JOIN ME FOR JUST A SECOND.
I KNOW HEIDI WANTS TO OFFER UP SOME GRATITUDE HERE.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE FRIDAY MORNING.
WE'RE GOING TO LAUNCH RIGHT INTO BUSINESS THIS MORNING.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY MORE INTRODUCTIONS.
IT'S JUST GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK.
IT WAS A VERY GOOD MEETING YESTERDAY.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT TODAY.
IT'S NOT A FULL DAY TODAY, SO WE PROMISE TO GET YOU OFF EARLY AFTERNOON. HEIDI.
>> IT JUST DAWNED ON ME YESTERDAY WHEN WE WERE GIVING RIGHTLY SO ACCOLADES TO RICK AND RANDY AND HEIDI THAT ALL OF THE ACCOUNTANTS ARE SITTING IN THE ROOM WITH US TODAY.
I DON'T WANT TO EMBARRASS YOU, I THINK YOU SHOULD STAND UP BECAUSE YOU ARE HELPFUL IN THIS WHOLE ENTIRE BUDGET PROCESS AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE LEAN ON YOU A LOT.
IF YOU COULD STAND UP, THE ACCOUNTANTS IN THE ROOM.
>> THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING OUR ENDLESS QUESTIONS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SPREADSHEETS.
[LAUGHTER] CJ, WOULD YOU MIND STANDING FOR ALL OF US? I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE BEST DRESSED INDIVIDUAL IN THE ROOM.
[APPLAUSE] KATIE, ARE YOU READY?
WHEN I WAS JUST STARTING OUT MY CAREER, I WOULD ASK MY GRANDMOTHER, WHAT SHOULD I WEAR? I THINK, IS THIS TOO MUCH? AM I OVERDRESSED? SHE WOULD SAY, "OH HONEY, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING THE BEST DRESSED WOMAN IN THE ROOM." NICE WORK, BEING THE BEST DRESSED.
[LAUGHTER] AS WE GET STARTED, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME THIS MORNING, BUT GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
RICHARD AND I HAD MENTIONED APPRECIATION TO BEING A HUGE PART OF CULTURE AND DEVELOPING RELATIONS.
I HAVE NOT SEEN A GROUP DO THAT SO WELL AND SEAMLESSLY AND BUILT-IN CONSTANTLY AS I HAVE WITH THE STAFF, THE CITY MANAGER, AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE.
IT MATTERS A LOT. WE HAVE DATA ON THAT.
[LAUGHTER] WE HAVE RESEARCHED ON IT. IT MATTERS A LOT.
YOU GUYS DO THAT VERY WELL AND YOU BUILD IT IN SO THAT IT'S NOT THIS CLUNKY.
NOW IT'S TIME FOR APPRECIATIONS. LET'S TAKE OUR TIME.
I JUST REALLY NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU DO THAT VERY WELL, SO PAT YOURSELVES IN THE BACK FOR THAT, ALL OF YOU IN THE ROOM.
THAT BEING SAID, HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF THE TWO WORD CHECK-IN OR UTILIZE THE TWO WORD CHECK-IN? MAYOR, GUYS, WHAT IS IT?
>> YOU GIVE TWO WORDS AT CHECK-IN.
>> AS FAR AS HOW YOU'RE FEELING.
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[LAUGHTER] IT'S THE BEGINNING OF A MEETING AND I JUST CHECKED IN? GOOD. WHY?>> IT'S A WAY TO CENTER YOURSELF IN THIS PLACE AND TO HEAR HOW EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING WITH THAT ALONG [OVERLAPPING]
WHAT MIGHT BE THE VALUE OF THAT? SOMEONE OTHER THAN MAYOR.
WHAT MIGHT BE THE VALUE OF THAT PAIRING THE TWO ARE CHECK-IN OF OTHERS? [BACKGROUND] I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU GUYS HAVE SAID.
>> IT CAN. WHAT IF COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS SAYS STRESSED OUT AND OVERWHELMED? SHE'S JUST BEING HONEST, IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CLUE, ONE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HER THAT DAY.
GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE COMPASSION FOR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE HAPPENING AND HOW SHE MIGHT BE SHOWING UP THAT DAY.
TWO, IT'S A CLUE, MAYBE I WANT JUST CIRCLE BACK WITH HER LATER.
WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT IN THE MOMENT, BUT I MIGHT WANT TO CIRCLE BACK LATER AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
THAT IS A BENEFIT AS WELL BECAUSE IT CAN CLUE US INTO OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE FOLLOWED UP ON.
LET'S JUST DO THE TWO WORD CHECK-IN REAL QUICK.
NOW, THAT BEING SAID, I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY NOT TRUE FOR ANY OF YOU HERE, BUT THERE IS A MISCONCEPTION THAT A LEADER SHOULD ALWAYS BE ON UP AND UP, ALWAYS BE POSITIVE, ALWAYS BE GOOD.
THIS MEETING IS RECORDED AND THERE'S PUBLIC PEOPLE ON THE LINE AND EVERYONE'S GOING TO HEAR, SO I CAN'T SAY HONESTLY WHAT MY TWO WORD CHECK IN IS.
WHILE YOU MIGHT WANT TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE WORDS YOU CHOOSE, I'M GOING TO PUSH BACK AND SAY, HONESTY MATTERS BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE SEE YOU AS A HUMAN BEING, YOU'RE MORE RELATABLE, AND PEOPLE LIKE TO VOTE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE RELATABLE BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND US.
I'M GOING TO SAY I'M ENCOURAGED TO BE HONEST AND BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE WORDS AT THE SAME TIME.
THERE'S TACT AND HONEST AT THE SAME TIME.
LET'S START WITH OUR TWO WORD CHECK-IN.
I AM CURIOUS IF CITY MANAGER WANTS TO GET US STARTED.
CITY MANAGER CLIFTON, WOULD YOU LIKE [INAUDIBLE]
>> SURE. THESE ARE TOTALLY OFF THE CUFF.
THE FIRST ONE ONLY BECAUSE WE JUST ACKNOWLEDGED CJ AND I FEEL I'M IN MY USUAL FRIDAY SLOT CLOSE.
[LAUGHTER] SECOND ONE AND I ALREADY SHARED THIS STORY WITH KATIE IS NON-OBSERVANT.
I WAS DRIVING IN TODAY WONDERING WHY THE HECK EVERYBODY ON THE OTHER LANE WAS PULLED OVER.
THEN REALIZED LOOKING AT MY SIDE VIEW THAT THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER BEHIND ME WITH HIS LIGHTS ON.
[LAUGHTER] I THOUGHT I WAS BEING PULLED OVER.
HE JUST WANTED ME TO GET THE HECK OUT OF THE WAY.
THAT PROBABLY WAS GOING ON FOR WHO KNOWS, 10, 15 MINUTES.
[LAUGHTER] SLOBBY AND NON-OBSERVANT. [LAUGHTER]
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HONEST.
[LAUGHTER] WE'LL COME BACK TO THE VICE MAYOR SO YOU CAN GET CLUED IN ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.
MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO NEXT?
>> GREAT. THANK YOU FOR SHARING. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS?
>> I'M STILL EATING GREAT FOOD.
>> WHEN YOU ASKED THE QUESTION, THERE'S TWO WORDS POPPED INTO MY MIND.
THEY'RE OFF THE RECORD BY THE BAND CALLED PURE PREY LADY AND THE WORDS ARE MAGNIFYING. [LAUGHTER]
>> LET'S SEE. PREOCCUPIED AND, FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WORD, BUT PREOCCUPIED.
MAYBE THAT'S TWO BECAUSE IT'S PRE AND [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]
STACEY, WOULD YOU MIND TELLING US IF COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE HAS TYPED IN ANY TWO WORDS?
>> I LIKE THAT. RUNNING OFF OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE SAID, HEALING AND FRUSTRATED.
MY DAD'S HEART SURGERY WAS RESCHEDULED AGAIN.
IT'S JUST BEEN A LITTLE FRUSTRATING.
BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IF IT'S NOT OKAY, IT'S OKAY TO NOT BE OKAY.
VICE MAYOR, TWO WORDS THAT DESCRIBE HOW YOU'RE DOING TODAY.
>> FOR ME I'M FEELING RUSHED AND CRANKY. [LAUGHTER]
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY.
WE HAD A WHOLE TALK ABOUT HONESTY, SO THANK YOU FOR THE HONESTY.
[4. City Council Budget Retreat STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Presentation and Discussion Regarding FY 2023/2024 Budget]
WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED FOR OUR AGENDA TODAY.[00:10:02]
IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SAM BECKETT AND CJ PERRY AND JENNY NIEMANN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO US ABOUT RESOURCE ALLOCATION AND PRIORITIES.IS THAT RIGHT? OH, SCOTT [INAUDIBLE].
>> WELL, SCOTT, NICE TO SEE YOU.
>> JUST NOW, A LITTLE ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
>> SAM WILL TAKE IT AWAY WHEN I MESS IT UP, SO I APPRECIATE IT. [LAUGHTER]
APPARENTLY, YOU ALREADY MESSED UP.
>> PUBLIC WORKS FRIDAY. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING A PUBLIC WORKS THIS WEEK.
THANKS TO ALL OF YOU IN THE ROOM AS WELL.
WE OF COURSE, LIKE HOSTING AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOU OUT TO SEE WHAT OUR EMPLOYEES DO AND WHAT OUR GROUPS DO.
OF COURSE, WE LIKE THE FACILITY AND IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO LET OUR EMPLOYEES SEE YOU HERE AS WELL AND SEE OTHER DIVISION DIRECTORS AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS THAT THEY RELATE WITH.
ALWAYS GOOD TO BE IN OUR BUILDING, WE APPRECIATE IT.
THIS MORNING, THERE ARE TWO GROUPS I WILL FOCUS ON IN PARTICULAR, BUT I DO HAVE A GROUP OF SUPPORT MEMBERS FROM PUBLIC WORKS THAT CAN HELP YOU FILL IN ANY BLANKS OR QUESTIONS.
FACILITY MAINTENANCE AND FLEET ARE TWO REALLY SIGNIFICANT PROGRAMS WITHIN PUBLIC WORK THAT WE HAVE REALLY FOCUSED SOME ATTENTION ON THE LAST FEW YEARS AND I HAVE TO REPORT THAT WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS.
IT'S ALWAYS SLOWER THAN WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE, BUT WE HAVE RECOGNIZED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT THE RECESSION OF '08 AND '09 REALLY HAS BEEN CATCHING US.
WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO START FOCUSED EFFORTS, AND THIS HAS BEEN A WORK IN PROGRESS, AS I SAID, BUT AS A QUICK REMINDER AND HIGHLIGHT, BUDGET TEAM SAW A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION OF THIS LAST WEEK AS WELL.
FACILITIES MAINTENANCE WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS IN A VERY SMALL TEAM OF 11.5 EMPLOYEES, THEY'RE ALL PICTURE THERE AT THE SIDEWALL LAST WEEK.
WE MAINTAIN JUST OVER A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF CITY-TYPE FACILITIES, WHICH IS ABOUT 100,000 SQUARE FEET PER EMPLOYEE.
TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, THE NEW COURTHOUSE DOWNTOWN IS 40,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR SMALL FACILITIES MAINTENANCE TEAM.
A LOT OF THE FACILITIES DO HAVE SOME SUPPORT FROM OTHER DIVISIONS, SO FOR EXAMPLE WATER SERVICES HANDLES A LOT OF THEIR OWN INTERNAL WORK ON THEIR STRUCTURES, WHICH IS A BIG HELP FOR OUR TEAM.
WE HAVE EXPERTS WITHIN EACH BUILDING BECAUSE WE HAVE POOLS AND ICE RINKS AND REC CENTERS AND AIRPORTS, TYPES OF FACILITIES THAT AREN'T UNIQUE, AND WE GET A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THOSE FOCUS GROUPS.
BUT THE DIVERSITY IS GREAT, AND AS I MENTIONED, THE MILLION SQUARE FEET, WE HAVE EVERYTHING FOR THE 1904 MILLIGAN HOUSE TO A 2020 COURTHOUSE.
ABOUT 120 YEARS WORTH OF INVENTORY THAT IS IN VARIOUS AGE AND CONDITION, 86 HVAC UNITS, 21 BOILERS, 75 ROOFS, OF COURSE, AND THEN WE ALSO HANDLED PROJECT MANAGEMENT, TRYING TO KEEP THESE MAINTAINED, AND WE TRY TO KEEP AT ABOUT TWO DOZEN PROJECTS A YEAR, THAT'S A SWEET SPOT FOR ABOUT 1.5, 2 PROJECT MANAGERS.
LAST YEAR WE SET SOME PRETTY AMBITIOUS GOALS.
WE WERE THANKFUL ENOUGH TO RECEIVE FUNDING FOR A NEW PROJECT MANAGER AND PUBLIC WORKS, THAT INDIVIDUAL JARED, HAS COME ONLINE IN JANUARY, SO HE'S FAIRLY NEW TO OUR ORGANIZATION, BUT NOW HE HAS TEAMED UP WITH ADAM.
MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN OR KNOWN ADAM DOES A LOT OF CIVIL PROJECT MANAGEMENT WORK WITH US.
JARED HAS JOINED UP AND NOW THE TWO OF THEM HAVE STARTED TO WORK MORE CLOSELY WITH OUR LANDFILL PROJECT MANAGER, AND WE'RE TRYING TO COORDINATE MUCH BETTER EFFORTS BETWEEN THE CIVIL WORK THAT WE NEED TO COMPLETE, THE SUPPORT TO OTHER DIVISIONS, AND THEN OF COURSE, MORE VERTICAL WORK IN THE FACILITIES WORLD.
FACILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS A GROUP OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM EVERY BUILDING OR TENANT OR DIVISION AND WE MEET MONTHLY TO TRY TO GO THROUGH AND ORGANIZE THE COLLECTIVE FUNDS, TO ORGANIZE THE WORK PROGRAM, AND TO RECOGNIZE THE NEEDS IN OUR PRIORITY FASHION VERSUS JUST EVERYONE TRYING TO FIX EVERYTHING AT ONE TIME.
WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME SYNERGY IN THAT GROUP, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME EFFORTS OF CO-MINGLING PROJECTS, AND OF COURSE MUCH BETTER FOCUS ON DIRECT DELIVERY AND A STREAMLINED PROCESS THAT PRIORITIZES THOSE PROJECTS.
SECURITY WITHIN SAFE FACILITIES HAS BEEN A BIG TOPIC FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS OR SO.
OUR EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION HAS POINTED OUT CONCERNS OR THOUGHTS OR IMPROVEMENTS.
WE HAVE A SPECIAL SECURITY FOCUS GROUP THAT REALLY DIVES INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF WHAT SECURITY COULD LOOK LIKE, WE'VE GOT GREAT SUPPORT FROM OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT FRIENDS OR IT FRIENDS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT BEST PRACTICES,
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TRAPPINGS, AND ALSO THE PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PIECES AND THOSE ARE THE PIECES OF THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE IS REALLY WORKING HARD TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT WITH THE SUPPORT OF THOSE OTHER FOLKS.THEY MIGHT BE AS SIMPLE AS IMPROVING ENTRYWAYS OR INGRESS AND EGRESS.
YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THE NEW SIGN-IN SHEETS AT CITY HALL.
THOSE ARE ALL COMING OUT OF THAT FOCUS GROUP.
BUT WE'VE GOT SOME BIGGER PICTURE [NOISE] ITEMS COMING.
THERE'S A SECURITY SYSTEM AT CITY HALL.
THERE ARE SOME SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS AND OTHER FACILITIES, SO WE NEED TO START BUDGETING AND START PROGRAMMING IN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
THESE ARE NOT THE MOST INEXPENSIVE SYSTEMS OUR FACILITIES ARE OLDER, THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED TO BE SET UP IN A SECURE FASHION LIKE WE THINK OF TODAY.
WE'RE TRYING TO RETROFIT A FEW OF THOSE FACILITIES TO MAYBE MAKE THEM MORE EASIER TO INSTALL SOME OF THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A CONTINUED FOCUS ON KEEPING OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR PUBLIC SAFE IN THESE FACILITIES AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE CAN DO FROM A FACILITY'S PERSPECTIVE.
PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE HAS SLIPPED IT ALWAYS DOES.
NO FAULT OF ANYONE IS JUST THE EASIEST THING TO LET SLIP.
BUT WE'VE ALSO RECOGNIZED THERE HAS ALSO THE PIECE THAT PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SLIP AT ALL.
BECAUSE NOW PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE HAS TURNED INTO DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, AND SO WE'VE REALLY STARTED TO PUT THAT FOCUS BACK ON PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, TRYING TO INCREASE THOSE PERCENTAGES TO TRY TO BE PROACTIVE AND BE AHEAD OF CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OR MORE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES.
THEN OF COURSE, AS ALWAYS, WE'VE GOT A MUCH GREATER FOCUS ON SUSTAINABILITY, WHETHER IT'S ELECTRIFICATION OF A BOILER EXCHANGE OR CHANGING OUR FIXTURES, WORKING WITH SUSTAINABILITY INTO RESCUE TEAM TO TRY TO FIND EFFICIENCIES IN OUR BUILDINGS, TRYING TO KEEP THAT AS A FOCUS IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT, NOT AS EASY WITH OUR OLDER STRUCTURES, BUT ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT DURING OUR [INAUDIBLE] THIS YEAR A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK ARE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND IS WE'VE APPROACHED THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR.
WE GENERALLY DO NOT HAVE A WORK ORDER OR A MANAGEMENT ASSET SYSTEM IN FACILITIES MAINTENANCE.
WE USE A WORK ORDER SYSTEM OF EMAILS.
IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE, IT'S NOT EFFICIENT, IT'S REALLY BEEN DIFFICULT TO TRACK OUR FACILITIES AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE A MASTER SPREADSHEET THAT WE WORK FROM FOR THE ASSET MANAGEMENT BUT IT'S LITERALLY A SPREADSHEET AND ITS DEPTHS ARE PRETTY DEEP.
WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY TO ORGANIZE THIS, THIS HAS BEEN REALLY ONE OF THE TOP GOALS OF THIS SMALL PROGRAM TO REALLY IMPLEMENT STRONG STRATEGIES TO BE MORE SUCCESSFUL, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT THIS YEAR.
WE'VE ALSO ASKED FOR A COUPLE OF SKILLED TRADE WORKERS.
I WENT BACK TO THE 11.5 PEOPLE THIS YEAR, WE'VE ASKED FOR A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, WERE AWARE THAT A LOT OF THESE ARE GENERAL FUNDED AND THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE TIGHT IN THE FUNDS, BUT WE REALLY DO HAVE A NEED FOR ELECTRICAL TRADE, MECHANICAL TRADE, PLUMBING AND TRADE THAT FOCUSED MORE EXPERIENCED.
MAYBE JOURNEYMAN MIGHT BE A GOOD TERM TYPE TRADES WORKER TO START FOCUSING ON THAT EFFORT WOULD BE HELPFUL, SO WE'VE ASKED FOR A COUPLE OF FOLKS.
BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE AN INCREASED DEMAND FOR SERVICE.
WE KNOW IT IMPROVE SOFTWARE SYSTEM, THE WORK ORDER TRACKING, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE FROM OUR EMPLOYEES THOSE NEEDS TO GET MAINTAINED.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP THAT FTE COUNT PUSH FOR A WHILE UNTIL WE GET CAUGHT UP, AND I THINK WE OWE IT TO YOU TO JUST HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT WITH CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH, SO WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO GET TO THAT PROACTIVE PIECE, AND A COUPLE OF MORE PEOPLE WILL HELP US GET THAT.
THEN LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY INCREASE THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET WITH SOME ONE-TIME FUNDING, WE'RE TYPICALLY ABOUT $250,000 CITYWIDE AND THE OPERATIONS SIDE.
WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST AGAIN WITHOUT A NUMBER NECESSARILY, BUT WE'D LIKE TO SEE AN INCREASE IN OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET.
WHAT I THINK WE'VE DONE WELL, IS ALIGNED WITH THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET, WITH THE HIGHEST PRIORITY IDENTIFIED NEED USING THE FAC AND THEN OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT ABILITY.
THOSE THREE ALL HAVE TO ALIGN AND THAT REQUEST COULD BE IN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, BUT AT THIS POINT, WE'RE TAKING A FEW EXTRA HUNDRED THOUSAND AND WE'RE PUTTING IT TO GOOD USE.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE AS MUCH RESOURCES AS POSSIBLE TO DELIVER, IF YOU GAVE US $10 MILLION, WE'D RUN INTO THE SAME PROBLEM YOU HEARD FROM CAPITAL YESTERDAY, YOU CAN ONLY DELIVER SO MUCH.
I THINK WE WANT TO BE REASONABLE IN THAT ASK AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE BUDGET TEAM, AND YOU ALL AS WE GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO SEE IF IT'S MAYBE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND OR ANOTHER 300,000, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IN AN ONGOING SENSE.
IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE COULD DELIVER.
I BELIEVE THAT'S THE LAST ONE ON FACILITIES.
ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE TO FLEET SERVICES? THINK OF ALL OF OUR ROLLING STOCK, EVERYTHING FROM A LAWNMOWER WITH SMALL WHEELS TO THE AIRPORT, OUR VEHICLES WITH VERY LARGE WHEELS TO ALL OF THE SNOW PLOWS THAT SAM'S TEAMS BREAK.
ANYTHING THAT HAS AN ENGINE OR WHEELS OR A MOTOR,
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A GENERATOR, FLEET SERVICES IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ITEM.WE'RE ALSO DEALING WITH NOT ONLY THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT ITEM BUT THE PROCUREMENT, THE APPEARANCE BUT THINGS YOU WOULD THINK OF.
WHEN YOU HAVE A FLAT TIRE FLEET SERVICES IS GOING TO GET INVOLVED.
THIS SMALL TEAM AS WELL HAS OVER 720 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT IN THE FLEET.
I DO WANT TO MAKE ONE CORRECTION.
IF YOU COULD TAKE YOUR SHARPIE AND JUST CHANGE THIS ON YOUR LAPTOP FOR ME.
WE DO NOT HAVE A $28 MILLION FLEET VALUE.
ANYONE WHO WANT TO TAKE A GUESS WHAT THE REAL NUMBER IS? THAT NUMBER IS NOT CORRECT.
ABOUT $110 MILLION OF FLEET INVENTORY ACROSS ALL FUNDS.
SORRY I WILL APOLOGIZE FOR THAT ERROR.
I THINK THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN OUR SPECULATION HAS MAYBE ONE FINAL SOURCE OF VEHICLES BUT IT'S 109 MILLION SO LOTS OF EQUIPMENT IN THE FLEET.
WE HAVE A ROBUST REPLACEMENT CRITERIA.
THE FLEET MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE IS OUR GROUP THAT REALLY UNDERSTANDS THE FLEET THE BEST AND IT REPRESENTS EVERY VIEWPOINT POSSIBLE.
I THINK IT'S WORKED WELL TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT MILEAGE, AGE, TYPE OF VEHICLE, WHAT IT'S DOING, ITS RELIABILITY AND THEN THE TEAM IS GREAT IF THEY FIND A VEHICLE ISN'T DOING WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO, WHERE IT IS, WHERE ELSE IN THE ORGANIZATION COULD WE USE IT? YOU'LL SEE SOME OLDER VEHICLES IN THE FLEET.
YOU'LL SEE SOME VEHICLES THAT MAYBE LOOK LIKE THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE WORN IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE JUST SIMPLY RE-PURPOSING THEM WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION WHICH HAS BEEN A GREAT USE.
I JUMPED INTO IT BUT THAT'S THAT FLEET MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.
THEY PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS, REALLY STRONG FOCUS ON ELECTRIC VEHICLES OR ELECTRIC OR HYBRID VEHICLES IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
WE'VE TRANSITIONED INTO A FEW OF THOSE VEHICLES CLEARLY SOME CHARGING STATIONS AND I THINK GREG WILL ATTEST IF HE COULD FIND FIVE OR SIX MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES WE WOULD PURCHASE THEM.
OUR DIFFICULTY AT THIS POINT IS SIMPLY FINDING THEM AND SECURING THEM.
GREG COLEMAN REALLY IS HUSTLING THOSE FOR US AS BEST AS POSSIBLE BUT THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF AVAILABILITY IN THAT MARKET AT THIS TIME.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE GENERAL FUND, BACK TO COLOR OF MONEY THE GENERAL FUND HAS ITS OWN FLEET.
THERE ARE ALL THE FLEET TO SUPPORT THAT GENERAL FUND PARTIES AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE PROBABLY MOST IN NEED OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.
ANOTHER WAY TO SAY THIS WITH A FUND OR THE SOLID WASTE FUND, FUND THE VEHICLES IN SAM'S FLEET OR IN EVAN'S FLEET FOR TRASH TRUCKS.
GENERAL FUND, THOSE REGULAR VEHICLES ARE THE MOST IN NEED.
WE CAN FIND RESOURCES WITHIN THOSE OTHER FUNDS AND PLAN OUT WITH THE GROWTH IN THOSE FUNDS.
RIGHT NOW THE APPROPRIATION IS JUST OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
REMEMBER THESE ARE REPLACEMENTS NOT NEW VEHICLES, THIS ARE REPLACEMENTS.
THEN LAST YEAR WE ALSO ADVOCATED AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN RECEIVING SOME MORE FUNDS TO CATCH UP SOME OF OUR AGING FLEET THAT WAS WELCOMED.
WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT WORK TO DO THERE AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO NOT SEE IT SLIP.
WHAT WE'VE RUN INTO THIS YEAR OF COURSE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, DEMANDS.
WE ARE NOW PLACING ORDERS FOR VEHICLES AND TRUCKS 2-3 YEARS OUT IN BUDGET CYCLES MAKING THE FINANCE WORLD VERY DIFFICULT BUT SNOW PLOWS ARE AT LEAST 24 MONTHS OUT RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S SOME THINGS THERE THAT ARE MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO WORK THROUGH.
OUR REQUEST REALLY IS TO THE GENERAL FUND, FLEET WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER 350,000 TO THAT ONGOING OPERATIONAL BUDGET FOR GENERAL FUND TO REALLY CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE THAT WE STAY ON TOP OF THAT REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE AND THAT WOULD BE TO THE FLEET REPLACEMENT SIDE.
ELECTRIC VEHICLES JUST TO POINT OUT NOT ONLY ARE THEY HARD TO GET AND IN IT'S SCARCITY BUT THEY HAVE ALSO INCREASED IN PRICE.
WE HAVE NOT HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH GOVERNMENT CONTRACTING OR CO-OPS NEGOTIATING CHEAPER VALUES SIMPLY THE DEMAND FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES RIGHT NOW IS SO HIGH THAT WE ARE PAYING A PREMIUM.
WHEN WE DO PAY FOR THEM I THINK THERE ARE SOME FUNDS THAT CAN MAYBE USE THAT TO A DEGREE EVEN JUST ONE OR TWO VEHICLES BUT IT REALLY IS A FINANCIAL QUESTION AT SOME POINT AS WELL.
WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOT ONLY CAN WE NOT GET THEM BUT THEY ARE VERY EXPENSIVE SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE PUTTING MONEY TOWARDS THOSE EFFORTS TO KEEP PACE WITH THAT UNTIL WE CAN SEE THAT MARKET SETTLE DOWN A LITTLE.
MR. COLMAN, EVAN, SAM DID I MISS ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE
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SURE I COVERED? YES, MR. COLMAN.>> [INAUDIBLE]. THAT'S $28 MILLION NUMBER.
>> EXCELLENT. AS WE SUSPECTED AND WE DID FIGURE THAT WAS PROBABLY IT THE $28,000,000 NUMBER WAS THE GENERAL FUND FLEET, 109 MILLION IS THE ENTIRE FLEET.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CLEAR ON THAT PIECE. YES COUNCILMAN.
>> ONE THING THAT CAUGHT MY EYE YESTERDAY WAS THE INCREASE IN UTILITY RATES THIS COMING YEAR, AN INCREASE OF POTENTIALLY $175,000 ADDITIONAL TO THIS WE'RE CURRENTLY APPLYING TO THE BUDGET.
WHILE WE WERE BUDGETING AS WE'RE TRANSITIONING TOWARDS MORE ENERGY-EFFICIENT VEHICLES AND ALL ELECTRIC THERE'S THAT UPFRONT COST THAT IS DOUBLED, ARE WE ALSO BUDGETING OR FORECASTING THE ADDITIONAL COST IN OUR UTILITIES?
>> THREE THINGS THERE, ONE, THE BASE INCREASE THAT YOU HEARD OF YESTERDAY IS THE COST OF UTILITY INCREASE.
THE SECOND PIECE THE PURCHASE OF THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES GOING UP IS JUST THE PURCHASE OF THE CAPITAL OF THE ACTUAL VEHICLE.
THE THIRD COMPONENT THAT YOU SPOKE TO IS THE COST OF POWERING THOSE VEHICLES AND I THINK I'D RATHER DEFER THIS ONE TO BOTH GREG AND JENNY BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE WORKING ON THAT BUT WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO IN THAT REGARD BECAUSE THERE IS A REAL COST TO CONTINUING TO CHARGE THESE VEHICLES AND USE THEM IN OUR FLEETS AND THEN AT EACH FUND MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT APPROACH.
I THINK JENNY MIGHT BE BETTER TO ANSWER THAT THAN ME OR AT LEAST MORE DETAIL.
>> THANK YOU, SCOTT. JENNY LIM, CLIMATE PROGRAM MANAGER.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS.
IN TERMS OF JUST FLEET AND FUEL IT'S REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU GO FILL UP AT THE GAS OUTSIDE WE HAVE A WAY TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
IF LET'S SAY PARKFLAG IS CHARGING A VEHICLE, THEY TRY TO GO LIBRARY SOMETIMES, THEY PLUG INTO AN OUTLET THERE.
IT'S ACTUALLY INTO ACCOUNTING.
THERE ARE COST SAVINGS FROM ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE, IT MEANS YOU'RE GETTING FUEL FOR ABOUT $1.50 A GALLON.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT ELECTRICITY RATES ARE MUCH MORE STABLE THAN GAS AND DIESEL RATES OVER TIME.
WE SEE COST SAVINGS THERE BUT WE HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO THAT BECAUSE NOW THAT'S COMING OUT OF APS BILLS IN FOLKS FACILITIES AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AS WE GET MORE EVS ON BOARD THAT WE WILL NEED TO START WORKING THROUGH AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AGAIN, WE DO SEE AN OPERATIONAL SAVINGS BECAUSE OF ELECTRICITY IS A LOT CHEAPER THAN GAS.
THERE'S ALSO CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
EVERY TIME WE HAVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE? THANK YOU.
>> OTHERS BECAUSE I KNOW WE HEAR FROM DIVISIONS THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT PROBABLY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER BECAUSE WE SEE MORE OF THE VEHICLES THEIR ELECTRIC BILLS ARE PULLING UP.
IF YOU HAVE A CHARGING STATION AT YOUR SITE, WE HAVE A COUPLE HERE ON THIS SITE, IT'S GOING TO CHANGE OUR ELECTRIC BILL SO WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO YOU ASSESS THAT TO A VEHICLE VERSUS A FACILITY.
IT'S CERTAINLY ONE WE'RE SEEING MORE NOW THAT WE'RE SEEING FOR VEHICLES IN THE FLEET [OVERLAPPING].
>> HOW MANY CHARGING STATIONS DO WE HAVE IN THE CITY THAT ARE OURS?
>> LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET THIS ONE.
WE HAVE CITY HALL, WHICH ARE A PUBLIC FACING CHARGING STATIONS, THERE'S FOUR THERE.
WE HAVE FOUR AT THE AIRPORT, PUBLIC FACING.
WE GOT TWO AT THE OPTIMAL FLEX, FOUR AT THE AQUA FLEX, PUBLIC FACING.
[LAUGHTER] WE HAVE TWO INSIDE THE FENCE HERE AT PUBLIC WORKS. I THINK THAT'S IT.
>> AT THE VISITOR CENTER AND AROUND THE GARAGE.
>> INSIDE THE FENCE, AT THE LIBRARY, IN THE PARKING GARAGE, ONE.
>> HOW MANY AT THE VISITORS CENTER?
>> [INAUDIBLE] WHICH [INAUDIBLE]
>> ONE AT THE RIO DE FLAG. INSIDE THE FENCE.
>> COURTNEY SAYS SIX AT THE AIRPORT.
>> TWO AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INSIDE THE FENCE.
I WOULD SAY IT'S ABOUT A DOZEN INSIDE THE FENCE AND MAYBE A DOZEN OUTSIDE THE FENCE.
>> YOU NEED TO CAPTURE THAT STATISTIC DOCUMENT.
>> MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE THEN, SO THE PUBLIC FACING ONES, ANYBODY WITH AN ELECTRIC CAR CAN USE THAT?
>> I BELIEVE SO. IT ALSO HAS SOMETHING TO DO.
>> YEAH, SO THOSE ARE 18 INSTALLED AT THOSE FOUR SITES.
ANYBODY WITH AN EV CAN USE THEM.
THEN HOW DID YOU FIGURE OUT HOW DO THEY GET CHARGED? I ONLY KNOW ONE PERSON WHO HAS ELECTRIC VEHICLES,
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BUT SHE HAD A LITTLE CARD OR SOMETHING AND SHE PAID.BUT WE'D USE THAT SAME SYSTEM FOR OUR VEHICLES SO THAT YOU WOULD KNOW WHICH DEPARTMENT THAT THEY CAME FROM? I DON'T KNOW. I'M ASKING, [LAUGHTER] SORRY TO ASK.
>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. I'M GREG COMMON WORK FLEET MANAGER.
ALL THE CITY-OWNED ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND WE DO HAVE ONE PLUG-IN HYBRID, THEY'RE WITHIN OUR CHARGE POINT.
WE HAVE A DASHBOARD THAT IS COMES FROM THE CHARGE, WHICH IS A THIRD PARTY ELECTRIC APPLICATION VENDOR.
WE PARTNERED WITH THEM THROUGH THE ABS GRANTS, AND WITHIN THEM ALL RSTUDIO WHEN VEHICLES ARE IN THERE AND EACH VEHICLE HAS A LITTLE PUMP, LIKE OUR FUELED CARS HAVE A FUEL PUMP.
YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE IN THE CHARGE POINT NETWORK ANYWHERE IN THE NATION WITH THAT VEHICLE, SCAN IT AND USE THEIR ELECTRICITY, AND IF THERE IS A FEE, IT COMES BACK TO FLEET, AND THEN WE PAY IT AND ASSIGN IT BACK TO THE COST OF THAT VEHICLE.
THAT'S HOW THE FUTURE WILL HOLD AS WE ADD TO OUR FLEET AND WE CAN MONITOR IT.
WE CAN MONITOR THOSE VEHICLES THAT WE OWN THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THE NETWORK AS LONG AS THEY'RE USING A CHARGE POINT VENDOR.
>> ALL OF THOSE CARS, IT'S NOT THE SAME ACCOUNT LIKE THOSE LITTLE.
>> THEY'RE SPECIFIC TO THE VEHICLE AND THE VEHICLE IS SPECIFIC TO A PROGRAM.
>> CITY-OWNED VEHICLES. ALL RIGHT.
I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW TO CHARGE IT BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT.
>> THAT WAS AN INVESTMENT AT GREG EARLY BEFORE WHEN WE STARTED THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT TRACKING OUR VEHICLE, AND BEING ABLE TO DO THIS AND THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE.
>> BECAUSE AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO CONNECT ALL THOSE DOTS, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THIS.
>> THEN MY LAST QUESTION, IF IT'S OKAY TO CONTINUE.
YOU TALKED ABOUT THERE'D BE A SHORTAGE OF VEHICLES AND STUFF THAT I KNOW BECAUSE I'VE HEARD PEOPLE COMPLAINING THEY CAN'T GET THEIR ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
IF THEY GET IT, THEY HAVE TO TAKE WHATEVER IS THERE WHEN THEIR NAME COMES UP ON THE LIST.
ARE WE ABLE TO GO IN WITH NAU OR ANY OF THOSE FOLKS TO SEE IF WE ORDER WHOLE BUNCH, CAN WE GET ON THE TOP OF THE LIST OR SOMETHING? I DON'T KNOW.
>> PROBABLY. WE USE DIFFERENT METHODS TO PURCHASE VEHICLES AND WHEN WE USE COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS.
WE REALLY DO ALWAYS TRY TO SEEK A LOCAL DEALER THAT CAN PROVIDE WHAT WE NEED.
WELL, I'M NOT AWARE OF A LOCAL DEALER THAT HAS ANY CO-OPERATIVES, SO THEN WE HAVE TO GET IT.
WE TRIED TO CONSOLIDATE OUR PURCHASES SO WE COULD COME TO A VENDOR WITH A MUCH BIGGER ASK AND HOPEFULLY NEGOTIATE.
FORD OFFERS NO GOVERNMENT DISCOUNTS AT THIS TIME.
CHEVROLET STILL DOES AND THE LATTICE WHICH OWNS THE CHRYSLER BROWN, THEY DO. YOUR IMPORTS.
NO GOVERNMENT DISCOUNTS AND STUFF.
BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
EVERYBODY'S HEARD ABOUT THE CHIP SHORTAGE.
WE'RE GRADUALLY CLIMBING OUT OF IT.
BUT NOW THERE'S A BATTERY SHORTAGE.
MANUFACTURERS CANNOT BUY OR BUILD ENOUGH ELECTRIC BATTERIES, BOTH HYBRID AND HIGH VOLTAGE FOR VEHICLES.
THERE'S A SHORTAGE NOW WITH THAT.
I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF EXAMPLE.
WE RESERVED FIVE SILVERADO EV, 1500S, AND THE MOMENT THAT WE COULD, NOT ORDERED, NOT BOUGHT, JUST RESERVED.
I GOT A CALL OR AN EMAIL FROM GENERAL MOTORS A MONTH AGO.
OPENING PRICE POINT FOR A 1,500 FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE EV, WITH TAX DELIVERED, $83,000.
THAT'S WITH A 350 MILE RANGE, 400 MILE RANGE, 88,000.
WE'VE GOT EIGHT OF THOSE OR FIVE OF THOSE RESERVED.
WE HAVE STILL FIVE FORD LIGHTNINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY ORDERED AND ARE ON THE WAY.
THAT VEHICLES STARTED AT DELIVERED 41,000.
NOW THE PRICE IS WELL OVER 75,000.
THAT'S IN A 18 MONTH TO A 2-YEAR PRICING.
GARBAGE TRUCK. I LOVE TALKING ABOUT GARBAGE TRUCKS.
[LAUGHTER] WE TOOK DELIVERY ON A NEW GARBAGE TRUCK A MONTH AGO THAT
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WE ORDERED 18-20 MONTHS AGO.PRICE TAG WAS $307,000 DELIVERED.
YOU'LL BE ASKED TO APPROVE TWO PURCHASES THAT I'LL BE BRINGING IN MARCH, OUR GARBAGE TRUCKS.
THE PRICE IS $412,000 FOR A GARBAGE TRUCK FOR 18 MONTHS.
OVER $100,000, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
GOOD OLD DIESEL-POWERED GARBAGE TRUCK.
>> I THINK THAT IS SOME OF THE CHALLENGES TRYING TO CONVERT THAT FLEET, TRYING TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, BUT FOR A LOT OF THE FUNDS ACROSS THE CITY, THAT'S ALMOST TWO OR THREE TIMES THE PRICE WE WOULD PAY FOR A TRADITIONAL GASOLINE-POWERED HALFTIME PICKUP SO IT REALLY PUTS THE PRESSURE ON TO FUNDS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO SUPPORT THAT ELECTRIC VEHICLE AT THE PRICE POINT AND THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES WE'RE HAVING. IT'S A TOUGH ONE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY.
>> THANK YOU, SCOTT. I WAS HOPING TO BRING UP A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION, I THINK IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.
A CLARIFYING QUESTION AND THEN A COMMENT.
[NOISE] JUST TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT MORE, IT'S ALREADY BEEN SUSSED OUT A LITTLE BIT HERE BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ELECTRIFYING OUR FLEET, WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT OUR CARS AND TRUCKS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIALIZED VEHICLES WHERE APPROPRIATE AND WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY IS MEETING THE CAPACITY.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THEN I HAVE SOME COMMENTS.
>> YEAH, LET ME START WITH THAT [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU MENTIONED DUMP TRUCKS, [INAUDIBLE] TRUCKS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
>> YEAH, LIGHT-DUTY VEHICLES HAVE BEEN MORE READILY AVAILABLE.
WE SAW A NEED TO TAKE POSSESSION OF THE FIRST ALL-ELECTRIC BOSTON FLAGSTAFF RECENTLY, OR IF IT'S COMING NEXT WEEK.
I KNOW IT'S COMING OR IT'S HERE, BUT BUS TECHNOLOGY IS THERE.
WE'VE LOOKED AT GARBAGE TRUCKS, SAM IS LOOKING AT A SWEEPER THAT'S ALL-ELECTRIC.
THERE'S SOME TECHNOLOGY IN THE MEDIUM REALM AND SOME IN THE HEAVY RANGE, BUT MAN, IT'S VERY SLIM.
EVEN SPEAKING WITH PHOENIX PUBLIC WORKS, THEY HAVE A 300-GARBAGE TRUCK FLEET, THEY'RE GOING TO ORDER ONE ELECTRIC GARBAGE TRUCK AT ABOUT A MILLION FIVE.
SO THAT POINT THERE, I THINK A LOT OF INDUSTRY EXPERTS ARE KEEPING THEIR EYE ON THE HYDROGEN MARKET FOR THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT, THE ELECTRIC FLEET IS JUST NOT THERE YET ON THE HEAVY AND MEDIUM SIDE.
I SAW REBECCA'S HAND GO UP, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I MISSED.
>> I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WE'RE GETTING AN ELECTRIC MOWER AND [INAUDIBLE].
>> YES, THE SMALL EQUIPMENT, THOSE LITTLE THINGS ARE EASIER BUT THE LARGE STUFF, WE'RE A LONG WAYS OFF.
>> WATER SERVICES HAD AN ELECTRIC RIDING MOWER AT THE [INAUDIBLE] FACILITY FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW WITHOUT [INAUDIBLE].
>> RIGHT. WE'RE SEEING BIG DEVELOPMENT ON THE SMALL EQUIPMENT SIDE, BUT THE BIG STUFF YOU'RE THINKING OF AND SPEAKING OF, I THINK WE'RE WAYS OUT STILL AND I THINK A LOT OF INDUSTRY EXPERTS ARE LEANING ON HYDROGEN.
>> I JUST WANTED TO PRY THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT AS CONTEXT FOR THE LARGER CONVERSATION AROUND THE ELECTRIFICATION OF OUR FLEET.
JUST A COUPLE OF [NOISE] COMMENTS WHERE YOU TAKE IT AS DIRECTION WHERE IT'S USEFUL AND APPROPRIATE, I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO KEEP OUR IRON BALL HERE.
THE ELECTRIFICATION OF OUR FLEET IS A TOP PRIORITY OF MINE.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGETS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MORAL DOCUMENT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE'VE PUT OUR PRIORITIES AND HOW WE VALUE THINGS.
THIS IS A MAJOR COMPONENT OF OUR CLIMATE MITIGATION EFFORTS AND CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS.
CONTEXTUALLY, I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE COST OF A DUMP TRUCK.
THERE WERE SOME WHISTLES AROUND THE ROOM AND THEN IN THE NEXT BREATH YOU SAID, THAT WAS ONE OF OUR REGULAR DIESEL-POWERED VEHICLES.
EXPENSES ARE GOOD RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING IS GOING UP IN PRICE.
I JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT IN CONTEXT.
WHILE WE'RE MAKING THESE REALLY IMPORTANT INVESTMENTS IN OUR FLEET ELECTRIFICATION, WE NEED TO REALIZE THAT A LOT OF THOSE INDUCED EXPENSES ARE COMPENSATORY.
JUST TO CLARIFY MY OWN THINKING ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, FIRST THING THIS NEW COUNCIL RECEIVED ON DAY 1 WAS AN INFORMAL PETITION FROM CITIZENS ASKING FOR THE ENTIRE IMMEDIATE ELECTRIFICATION OF OUR FLEET.
WHILE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING AS AN OPENING BID AND JUST KEEPING THE PRESSURE ON, THE PRACTICALITY OF THE REALITY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WE'RE NOT DOING OURSELVES ANY FAVOR BY TOSSING OUT PERFECTLY GOOD VEHICLES AND REPLACING THEM WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES
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BECAUSE THOSE VEHICLES HAVE A LOT OF SHELF-LIFE LEFT ON THEM.WE'RE DOING HARM TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND ADDING TO THE CARBON EQUATION IN OTHER WAYS IF WE'RE GETTING RID OF PERFECTLY GOOD VEHICLES AND REPLACING THEM WITH ELECTRIFIED VEHICLES TOO QUICKLY.
THIS IS A TRANSITION, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING OUT IN TERMS OF LOGISTICS, IN TERMS OF EQUIPMENT, AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT'S A PROCESS THAT IS HAPPENING ABSOLUTELY EVERYWHERE IN EVERY INDUSTRY, IN EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT, IN EVERY STATE GOVERNMENT, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, [NOISE] EVERY BUSINESS ENTERPRISE.
EVERYBODY IS SUPPORTING THE EFFORTS.
COLLECTIVELY, I THINK THESE PRICES ARE VOLATILE RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE VOLATILE WITH EVERYTHING.
IN THE LONG TERM AND IN THE MIDTERM, I THINK THESE THINGS WILL STABILIZE AND WE'LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER SENSE OF WHAT IT MEANS TO OUR CITY POCKETBOOK.
BUT I'M ON THE COUNCIL TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT BALL AND MAKE SURE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS AND WE'RE NOT REACTING TO EVERY FLUCTUATION IN THE MARKET AND THE CONDITIONS OUT THERE. THAT'S WHERE I STAND.
>> WE'RE VERY AWARE AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT OFTEN IN OUR GROUP.
I THINK WE ALWAYS ARE CHECKED A LITTLE BIT WITH OUR OPERATIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES.
I THINK YOU SAID IT WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY THROW OUT A VEHICLE OR A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S WORKING WELL AND MAYBE IS HALFWAY THROUGH ITS LIFE.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT WHAT WE DO.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE THAT FLEET BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE THE OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENT TO FULFILL THE RESPONSIBILITY.
I THINK I MIGHT [INAUDIBLE] PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, THEY'VE REALLY TRIED TO TRY SOME THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TECHNOLOGIES.
WE GO TO THESE TRADE SHOWS AND WE LISTEN TO OUR VENDORS AND AS IT'S MOVING, IT'S GOING TO GET EASIER.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A CHALLENGING MARKET TO GET GOING.
>> ABSOLUTELY. FAIR ENOUGH TO POINT THAT OUT AND TO HAVE THAT SIT THERE ON THE TABLE FOR SURE.
I JUST WANT TO BEAR WITNESS TO AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THE CITY HAS GONE THROUGH GREAT EFFORT AND TAKEN GREAT STRIDES TO ELECTRIFY OUR FLEET AND I THINK WE'RE WELL IN PROGRESS AND I APPLAUD THE EFFORTS OF LEADERSHIP AND THE TEAM FOCUS THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY.
IT'S REALLY EXCITING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHERE IT GOES.
>> IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE LITTLE CAVEAT, THAT 350,000, THAT IS A BIG ASK IN SCOTT SLIDES.
I SEE THAT AS THE WAY TO BRIDGE THAT GAP.
FOR INSTANCE, WE PUT IN $68,000 FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET FOR SOLID WASTE, PICKUP SUPPORT VEHICLES.
NOW THAT'S AN ENTERPRISE FUND, BUT I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE IS THAT 350,000.
WELL, WHEN WE HAVE THESE INSTANCES, WE CAN BRIDGE THAT MONETARY GAP FROM WHAT WE BUDGETED TO WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY BECAUSE OF THE VOLATILITY OF THE MARKET SO WE CAN ASK FOR MONEY.
WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS ALWAYS, BUT MONEY NOT BE THE REASON WHY WE COULDN'T MOVE THAT BUDGET.
>> I JUST WANT TO TIME CHECK FOR A MOMENT, WE HAVE 45 MINUTES FOR THE PRESENTATION ON INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND CARBON NEUTRALITY.
CLEFT, IS THAT GOING TO STILL WORK? OKAY. GREAT. CAN WE STILL HAVE A COMMENT FROM COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY?
>> YEAH, JUST A QUICK COMMENT AND A QUESTION.
MR. [INAUDIBLE] COMMENTS ARE RIGHT ON.
I SUPPORTED ELECTRIFICATION AS A LONG-TERM GOAL, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITH SOME COMMON SENSE AND BALANCE THAT AGAINST BUDGET ISSUES, ETC.
MY QUESTION, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT I BELIEVE SOME OF THESE CHARGING STATIONS THE CITY PUT UP, THERE WAS NO CHARGE FOR THE POWER THAT THEY WAS TRANSFERRING FROM THE STATION TO THE VEHICLE.
MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT STILL TRUE? HOW LONG WOULD THAT LAST [INAUDIBLE]?
YES, AND THIS HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE TOLD COUNCIL AT THE TIME THAT INITIALLY WE WERE GOING TO DO, THESE ARE THE LOWER-TIER TRICKLED STATIONS, THEY'RE NOT THE VERY EXPENSIVE HIGH-CHARGE STATIONS.
THAT WE WERE GOING TO KEEP THOSE FREE TO THE PUBLIC AS AN INTRODUCTORY PROGRAM TO INCENTIVIZE THEIR USAGE AND THAT REMAINS IN PLACE.
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WE'RE NOT YET SEEN THE LEVEL OF USAGE THAT WOULD I THINK PROMPT US TO CHANGE THAT TO A CHARGE FOR ELECTRICITY SITUATION, BUT I THINK THAT'S ON THE HORIZON AND WE'LL KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON IT.I THINK THE INCENTIVIZING OF THAT HAS BEEN WELL RECEIVED.
BUT WE'RE SET UP TO HAVE THOSE BE PAID FOR CHARGE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT?
>> JUST THAT THOSE WERE PROVIDED THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH APS.
EIGHTEEN STATIONS CAME INTO THIS COMMUNITY HIGHLY SUBSIDIZED THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH APS AND SO THAT IS CONTEXT FOR THAT DECISION.
I'LL ALSO SAY THE REASON APS IS DOING THAT IS APS WANTS TO COLLECT DATA ON WHAT ELECTRIC CHARGING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR THE GRID OVERALL, GRID STABILITY.
WE JUST GOT THE LAST ONES INSTALLED THIS FALL AT THE VISITOR CENTER SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO REALLY HAVING A FULL YEAR OF DATA.
RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE FULLY COMPLETE WITH THAT PROGRAM, WE'RE DONE WITH APS TO TAKE CHARGE.
THEY GAVE OUT ALL THE MONEY WHICH WAS GREAT THAT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF WAS ABLE TO DO THAT BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND AS CITY MANAGER SAID, GET THERE BY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IN THE SHORT TERM IT MAKES SENSE.
>> IN THE LONG TERM, YOU CAN'T GIVE AWAY POWER.
>> YOUR ENERGY IS CREDIT-WORTHY.
>> YEAH, WE'RE ENTIRELY WITH YOU AND STAY TUNED ON THAT.
>> WE CALL IT A POWER COMPANY IT'S REALLY NOT.
IT'S AN ENERGY COMPANY. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.
>> ANY MORE COMMENTS? ARE WE READY FOR A PRESENTATION ON INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY? ALL RIGHT [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU, JOE.
>> HI. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.
I'M CJ PERRY, YOUR IT DIRECTOR.
I BELIEVE THAT WE STARTED OFF THE DAY.
THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE EARLY ON REALLY SET THE TONE FOR THE DAY, SO THAT'S WHY I'M DRESSED LIKE THIS.
I HAD [LAUGHTER] TO DECIDE BETWEEN THIS OR A HAWAIIAN T-SHIRT, AND MY WIFE WON.
MY PRESENTATION IS DIVIDED IN TWO PARTS.
ONE, I'M GOING TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FIBER AND BROADBAND AND THEN I'M GOING TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT INFRASTRUCTURE MORE IN GENERAL.
WE REALLY STARTED WORKING ON A FIBER AND BROADBAND MASTER PLAN SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND THROUGH SOME OF THE ARPA FUNDS THAT STACEY BRECHLER TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY AS WELL AS SOME OTHER FUNDING THAT WE'VE DONE FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
WE'VE HAD OVER TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN FUNDING THAT WE GET TO PUT TOWARDS OUR BROADBAND MASTER PLAN.
WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FROM A VARIETY OF ANGLES.
IN THE FALL, WE REALLY DECIDED TO PIVOT WITH THIS.
WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT A LOT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING OUT, AND MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN WORDED IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE NEED TO PARTNER WITH AN ISP.
THEY DON'T REALLY WANT TO GIVE FUNDING TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT DOESN'T HAVE PREVIOUS ISP EXPERIENCE.
WE'RE GOING ALL IN ON THAT AND LOOKING FOR A PARTNER THAT CAN BRING BETTER, CHEAPER, FASTER, BROADBAND TO OUR COMMUNITY WHILE ALSO MEETING THE INTERNAL NEEDS OF THE CITY.
WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER IS FUNDING.
WE HAVE CONDUIT INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF INCENTIVES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO AN ISP TO FURTHER BUILD OUT TO REDUCE THEIR CONSTRUCTION COSTS WHILE ALSO MEETING THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE.
BEFORE I WAS HERE, THERE WAS SOME AGREEMENT.
DO YOU REMEMBER MPG CABLE? MPG CABLE EVENTUALLY GOT BOUGHT OUT BY SUDDENLINK, WHICH GOT BOUGHT OUT BY ALTICE WHICH IS NOW CALLED OPTIMUM OR OPTIMUM PRIME OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW.
THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT NAMES.
BUT BACK IN THE DAY THERE WAS A GREAT AGREEMENT THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE REALLY LOW-COST FIBER TO THE CITY FOR 20 YEARS, AND IN EXCHANGE, THERE ARE SOME FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS.
WELL, 20 YEARS COMES UP AND THEY'VE GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE CORPORATE CHANGES.
OUR PRICE TAG WENT THROUGH THE ROOF, SO WE STARTED LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE MICROWAVE AND OTHER THINGS TO BRIDGE THAT GAP AND KEEP OUR COSTS LOW.
BUT REALLY FIBER IS THE WAY FOR US.
HOW I'M APPROACHING SOME OF THIS IS LOOKING AT FINDING THAT PARTNER, BUT ALSO KEEPING A CITY OWNERSHIP MODEL AS PART OF THAT FOR FIBER DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
I THINK THAT WILL PROTECT OUR INTERESTS WELL BEYOND 20 YEARS AND INTO THE FUTURE.
WE'RE WORKING WITH PURCHASING RIGHT NOW TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT CONTRACT LOOKS LIKE, TRY TO FIND THAT PARTNER.
BUT EITHER WAY, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION.
WE'VE GOT A PO OUT FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.
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WE'RE ACTUALLY COLLABORATING WITH LUMEN ON SOME CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO UNDERNEATH THE RAILROAD, TRYING TO COORDINATE THAT TIMELINE THAT'S ALL IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE REAL PROJECT AS WELL WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO PRIORITIZE OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.A LOT OF THIS ACTUALLY COMES FROM A CYBERSECURITY INITIATIVE.
AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE ARPA FUNDS, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THIS CAME FROM.
IN LOOKING AT THIS FROM A CYBERSECURITY PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE GETTING QUOTES FOR THE REAL WATER PLANT RIGHT NOW IN ORDER TO ADD THAT PLANT TO OUR FIBER NETWORK.
SOME OF THE OTHER PLANTS ARE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY, SO LOOKING WHAT THAT LONG-TERM STRATEGY LOOKS LIKE.
GOT A POLICE STATION AND, OF COURSE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THOSE ARE ALL OUR HIGHER PRIORITY THINGS WE WANT TO CONNECT VIA FIBER AND BROADBAND.
I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE JUST A QUICK UPDATE AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE REGION OUTSIDE OF FLAGSTAFF, BUT THAT AFFECTS FLAGSTAFF.
ADOT. REMEMBER, A YEAR-AND-A-HALF AGO OR SO WITH A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING DOWN I-17, BRINGING FIBER FROM FLAGSTAFF ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PHOENIX.
THEY SHOULD BE STARTING, I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A SPECIFIC UPDATE ON TIMELINE, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING FIBER ALSO FROM FLAGSTAFF TO THE CALIFORNIA BORDER.
THEN I KNOW ON THEIR LONG-TERM MASTER PLAN, THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT IT FROM FLAGSTAFF TO THE NEW MEXICO BORDER.
THAT BRINGS A LOT OF THAT LONG-HAUL FIBER INTO FLAGSTAFF.
APS WAS ALSO CONSTRUCTING A LOOP THAT GOES FROM PHOENIX UP THROUGH PRESCOTT INTO FLAGSTAFF OVER TO WILLIAMS AND HOLBROOK, AND THEN BACK DOWN TO PHOENIX AS WELL.
I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ON THEIR RESOURCES.
THERE'S A PRIVATE COMPANY CALLED ARCADIAN INFRACOM.
ACTUALLY, THEY'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING FIBER FROM DENVER IN SALT LAKE CITY DOWN TO PHOENIX, AND THAT ALL COMES RIGHT THROUGH FLAGSTAFF.
LOTS OF GREAT FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES, LOTS OF EXCITEMENT IN THIS AREA, THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THEM IN NEAR FUTURE.
AS FAR AS BROADBAND GOES JUST FROM A STAFF RECOMMENDATION PERSPECTIVE, THAT LAST BULLET POINT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE, PATIENCE.
THESE THINGS TAKE TIME, THERE'S A LOT OF PLAYERS INVOLVED, A LOT OF WORK INVOLVED.
WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
WE DO STILL THINK THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE IN INCORPORATING CONDUIT INFRASTRUCTURE INTO SOME OF OUR BIG CAPITAL PROJECTS WHERE IT LINES UP WITH OUR BROADBAND MASTER PLAN.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO STRESS TO YOU, WE'RE SEEING THESE INFLATION COSTS, WE'RE SEEING THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS INCREASE IN PRICE.
ADDING CONDUIT ADDS MORE COST TO IT.
REALLY AS A COUNCIL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE AND WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE ADD, ADDS A LITTLE BIT MORE PRICE.
I HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR CAPITAL TEAM, WITH OUR WATER TEAM ALL THE TIME AS FAR AS, DO WE WANT TO GET CONDUIT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT? WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE COST OF THE PROJECT GIVEN OUR EXISTING INFLATION MAY ENSUE? I'M GOING TO PAUSE HERE FOR JUST ONE SECOND BEFORE I GO INTO THE GENERAL IT INFRASTRUCTURE.
ACTUALLY, ONE MORE THING BEFORE I GO TO QUESTIONS ON THIS PART.
THE OTHER THING THAT THIS REALLY TIES INTO IS THIS LAYS THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALSO FOR OUR SMART CITY PLANNING.
I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME COLLABORATING WITH NAU.
I WAS PART OF THEIR SMART CAMPUS INITIATIVE AND GAVE OUR FEEDBACK AS FAR AS FROM A SMART CAMPUS INITIATIVE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE TAKING A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON HOW THEY ARE DOING THINGS.
THERE'S ALSO SOME PARTNERSHIPS WITH ASU THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING TOWARDS AS WELL, JUST TO REALLY START TO FEEL OUT WHAT DOES THE SMART CITY INITIATIVES LOOK LIKE, ALONG WITH JUST LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING.
THOSE THINGS ARE MORE FUTURE THINGS.
THOSE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO BE LOOKING TO.
WE WANT TO BE FORWARD THINKING.
THIS LAYS SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE THOSE THINGS POSSIBLE.
I WANTED TO STOP. REAL QUICK, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT BROADBAND? YEAH.
>> A COMMENT, RATHER. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AS WE TALK ABOUT EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES, AND I THINK THE SMART CITY TOPIC IS TOUCHING ON THAT QUITE A BIT.
YOU AND I HAVE BRAINSTORMED UP FROM TIME TO TIME ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A FUTURIST COME IN AND PRESENT TO COUNCIL AT A WORK SESSION, JUST INFORMATION SHARING.
BUT REALLY IN THE REALM OF, WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE? WHAT SHOULD WE BE THINKING ABOUT? SMART CITY CERTAINLY IS A GOOD TOPIC ON THAT AS WE THINK ABOUT THINGS LIKE NOT JUST THE BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, AUTONOMOUS PARKING, AND A WHOLE ARRAY OF TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE OUT THERE AND COMING QUICKLY.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PUT ON OUR RADAR.
I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING AND INTRIGUING FOR THE COUNCIL AND FRANKLY,
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THE PUBLIC, TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.>> ABSOLUTELY. I REALLY THINK, AGAIN, THAT COLLABORATION WITH ANY NAU AND ASU ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING.
YOU'VE SEEN THE ROBOTS GOING AROUND NAU CAMPUS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY COOL UP AND COMING TECHNOLOGY, AND I'VE REALLY TRIED TO STAY A PRICE TO THAT.
I HAVE ACTUALLY HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH DR. STEVE BURRELL, WHO'S MY COUNTERPART OVER AT NAU ABOUT THIS EXACT TOPIC.
DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING THAT CONVERSATION AGAIN TO COUNCIL IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
IS THAT COORDINATED STOCK PRICE, OR CAN YOU TELL ME?
>> WHAT I'LL SAY IS THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF GETTING A SMART CITY MASTER PLAN.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY DEFINE SMART CITIES, I CAN DEFINE IT TO YOU IN 100 DIFFERENT WAYS, AND I'D PROBABLY BE CORRECT.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES THING.
WHEN WE DEFINE SMART CITIES, WE START BY GOING, WHAT ARE THE COUNCIL INITIATIVES? WHAT DOES THE COMMUNITY WANT? WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY WANTING TO IMPLEMENT? THEN WE DEVELOP A SMART CITY PLAN AROUND THOSE ITEMS BECAUSE WE CAN APPLY TECHNOLOGY TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS, AND IN SOME CASES, IT MAKES SENSE.
IN SOME CASES, WE'RE JUST PUTTING SHINY THINGS OUT THERE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING A NEW SHINY OBJECT.
REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO START TO DO AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS THERE'S ACTUALLY A CONSULTANT THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THAT DID THE SMART CITY MASTER PLAN FOR THE CITY OF MESA, AND I BELIEVE, IT WAS THE CITY OF SCOTTSDALE AS WELL.
I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THEM AS WELL AS OTHER PLAYERS IN THE INDUSTRY TO GO, HELP US WALK THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
SMART CITY HAS A LOT OF DEFINITIONS, BUT WHAT DOES SMART CITY MEAN TO THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF? BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITION FOR YOU TODAY, BUT I CAN GIVE YOU 100 DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF HOW 100 DIFFERENT CITIES DID IT DIFFERENTLY.
I KNOW THAT DOESN'T FULLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT I HOPE IT GETS CLOSE.
>> CJ, WE'D HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS TOWARDS THE END OF LAST TERM?
>> REMIND ME WHAT WE SETTLED ON IN TERMS OF FOCUS.
I THINK PART OF IT WAS THE SMART GRID ON TRAFFIC.
BUT MAYBE YOU CAN DRILL IN A LITTLE CLOSER ON SOME OF THAT.
>> YEAH. THE COUNCIL DIRECTION AT THE TIME WAS TO LOOK AT A SMART CITY MASTER PLAN, AND REALLY GO THROUGH THAT FULL PLANNING PROCESS AND HELP US DEFINE THE SPECIFIC PRIORITIES THAT WE WANT TO GO DOWN.
>> WITH METROPLAN, WE HAD PRESENTATION AT ONE POINT EARLY LAST YEAR ABOUT PEOPLE WHO GO UNDER IN THE AIR THAT WOULD TAKE PEOPLE AROUND.
YOU REMINDED ME OF THAT VERY FAMOUS SIMPSONS EPISODE WHERE THE GUY CAME IN SELLING MONORAIL TO THE FOLKS IN SPRINGFIELD.
ABSOLUTELY. FABULOUS. CLASSIC TELEVISION.
THERE'S A FINE LINE BETWEEN BELLS AND WHISTLES AND [INAUDIBLE] INTELLIGENTLY AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE NEXT GREAT THINGS THAT ARE COMING.
I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC AND VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED AND WHAT'S THAT OTHER METRIC WE LIKE TO THINK ABOUT OR WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM THINKING ABOUT THAT.
[OVERLAPPING] LEVEL OF SERVICE.
THE TIME IT TAKES SITTING ON A LIGHT.
A LOT OF THESE THINGS CAN BE ALLEVIATED THROUGH TECHNOLOGY.
WE'VE SEEN HOW SMART COMMUNICATION BETWEEN DEVICES AND NETWORKS OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS HAS REALLY CHANGED EVERYONE'S LIFE AND THOSE THINGS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND IT WILL HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON A LOT OF OUR BROADER CONVERSATIONS.
I HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO BUDGET FOR SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES NOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A LOCK BOX OR A PIGGY BANK OR THAT THING.
AGAIN TOO, WE'RE SEEING DELAYS IN THE AVAILABILITY OF THESE THINGS JUST BECAUSE OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUES AND OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.
KEEP ALL THAT IN MIND SO AS WE'RE FORWARD THINKING WE'RE ALSO THINKING AHEAD.
>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. A BIG SHOUT OUT TO JEFF BOWMAN.
BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT THAT HE WAS LOOKING AND TO START DOWN THAT ROAD IS WHERE WE ACTUALLY GOT OUR FIRST SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FIBER INFRASTRUCTURE DOWN BUTLER.
THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE OF IT IS REALLY WHERE A LOT OF THIS GOT STARTED AND REALLY GAVE US THAT GOOD FOOT FORWARD SO WE DEFINITELY WON'T MOVE BACK.
LET'S MOVE ON INTO GENERAL IT INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE BIGGEST THING THAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU HERE, IS IT INFRASTRUCTURE MEANS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE THINK OF INFRASTRUCTURE WE THINK OF PIPES IN THE GROUND OR NEW ROADS AND ALL THAT.
BUT AS YOU REALIZE IN THE MODERN AGE, DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS JUST IMPORTANT AS SOME OF THE PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
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WE HAVE THESE WATER SYSTEMS, THEY'RE ALL COORDINATED BY SOFTWARE AND WE HAVE TRAFFIC SYSTEMS. THE MORE WE CAN APPLY THAT DIGITAL OVERLAY TO THOSE TRAFFIC SYSTEMS, THE MORE WE CAN COORDINATE SIGNALS, THE MORE WE CAN DO THESE THINGS.BUT THE OBVIOUS THINGS UP AT THE TOP ARE SERVERS, ARE NETWORK EQUIPMENT, THOSE ARE HOW WE TRADITIONALLY LOOKED AT IT INFRASTRUCTURES, THE PHYSICAL BOXES.
BUT AS WE START TO GO DOWN THIS LIST WE LOOK AT SOFTWARE AND LICENSING.
IS THAT PART OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE? WELL, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, A LOT OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE STOPS WORKING.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THINGS LIKE CYBERSECURITY.
IF WE DON'T WRAP THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN CYBERSECURITY IT BECOMES A RISK.
WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT IT INFRASTRUCTURE A LITTLE BIT MORE HOLISTICALLY MOVING FORWARD.
EVEN THINGS LIKE HYBRID WORK TECHNOLOGY.
YOU LOOK AT THE TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW IT'S ALLOWING US TO DO AMAZING THINGS, INCORPORATE THE PUBLIC A LOT MORE, INCORPORATE PEOPLE THAT CAN WORK FROM HOME AND THAT CAN ATTEND THESE MEETINGS WITHOUT PHYSICALLY BEING HERE.
WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT IT INFRASTRUCTURE A LITTLE BIT MORE HOLISTICALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS SUBJECT.
WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT SOME OF OUR PRIMARY NEEDS ARE.
FIRST OFF I WANT TO JUST SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO THE ORGANIZATION, TO GREG, AND TO THE BUDGET TEAM.
THEY'VE INVESTED A LOT IN OUR IT INFRASTRUCTURE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.
WE WERE AT THE POINT FROM THE 2008 RECESSION, WE HAD EQUIPMENT THAT WAS 13 OR MORE YEARS OLD.
WHEN YOU THINK OF IT EQUIPMENT, THINK OF YOUR PHONE OR YOUR LAPTOP IN 13 YEARS OLD, WE JUST KEPT STUFF ON THE SHELF BECAUSE WE KNEW SOMETHING WAS GOING TO BREAK AND WE DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ONE.
WHEN A BUILDING WENT OFFLINE BECAUSE OUR EQUIPMENT FAILED, WE WERE THERE TO FIX IT.
WE'RE NOW ACTUALLY STARTING TO MOVE INTO MORE PROACTIVE.
WE'RE STARTING TO GET ON TOP OF THESE THINGS.
ACTUALLY OUR BIGGEST STRUGGLE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HEARD FROM SCOTT, IS THE STAFFING TO ACTUALLY MEET ALL OF THE NEEDS OF THE ORGANIZATION.
BUT FROM A FUNDING PERSPECTIVE WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING PRETTY GOOD.
YOU HEARD THE BUDGET TEAM TALK ABOUT TRYING TO MOVE 50 PERCENT OF ONETIME FUNDS INTO ONGOING FUNDS.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PRIORITIES HERE, IT JUST SET US UP FOR THE FUTURE TO KEEP BEING PROACTIVE, KEEPING ON TOP OF THESE THINGS MOVING FORWARD.
SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU JUST HEARD SCOTT TALK ABOUT, INFLATION HAS BEEN BITING US TOO.
WE HAD A STORAGE PLATFORM SYSTEM, WE'VE REPLACED IT.
ABOUT EVERY FOUR TO FIVE YEARS WE TRY TO LOOK AT SOME OF OUR BASE INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR SERVER INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR STORAGE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE SEE 5-10 PERCENT INCREASES EVERY TIME WE HAVE TO REPLACE THAT THING.
WELL, THIS TIME WE WENT FROM 85,000 TO OVER $200,000 FOR JUST A DIRECT REPLACEMENT.
WE'RE NOT ADDING NEW FEATURES, WE'RE NOT UPGRADING TO ANYTHING NEW AND FANCY THIS IS JUST PURELY REPLACING THE EXISTING EQUIPMENT.
INFLATION IS REALLY STARTING TO BITE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS AND WE'LL SEE THAT ACROSS THE CITY.
OUR NEXT REAL STRATEGIC PRIORITY.
I TALKED ABOUT HOW FROM THE 2008 WE WERE PLAYING CATCH-UP IN REACTIVE MODE.
WE'VE REALLY STARTED TO MAKE PROGRESS ON ALL OF OUR PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR SERVERS, OUR NETWORK EQUIPMENT.
I THINK APPLICATIONS IS THE NEXT AREA OF FOCUS FOR US.
WE HAVE ONE SYSTEM STILL AT THE CITY THAT IS RUNNING ON A BOLT SYSTEM THAT WAS DESIGNED IN THE '80S.
YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS THE BEST TECHNOLOGIES THE '80S HAD TO OFFER.
[LAUGHTER] THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON.
WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN THAT AREA.
APPLICATION MODERNIZATION DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN REPLACING SOFTWARE SOMETIMES IT'S JUST AROUND THE WAY THAT THE SOFTWARE WAS IMPLEMENTED, HAVING THE STAFFING AND THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT RESOURCES IN ORDER TO MOVE THAT SOFTWARE FORWARD.
AS AN EXAMPLE, 10 YEARS AGO WE REPLACED OUR ERP SYSTEM AT THE EXACT SAME TIME THAT THE COUNTY REPLACE THEIR ERP SYSTEM.
THE COUNTY DEDICATED STAFFING AS WELL AS TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN IMPLEMENTATION FUNDS FOR THEIR ERP.
I THINK LIKE $100,000 THAT FIRST YEAR AND SAID, GOOD LUCK.
TO OUR CREDIT, OUR STAFF ARE AWESOME.
TEAM FLAGSTAFF HAS THE BEST STAFF AROUND AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO A LOT WITH THAT.
BUT IT JUST SHOWS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THAT SUPPORTING FUNDING AND THAT SUPPORTING STAFFING THAT IS NEEDED TO REALLY GET GOOD IMPLEMENTATIONS.
BECAUSE OF THAT THAT'S WHY WE STILL HAVE ONE SYSTEM WE'RE STILL TRAILING ON EVEN 10 YEARS LATER.
WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT THAT'S ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.
WE ALSO HAVE A TECHNOLOGY TEAM WHICH HAS REPRESENTATION FROM EVERY DIVISION ACROSS THE CITY.
THIS IS ONE OF THEIR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES THAT THEY HAVE EXPRESSED TO ME SO WE'RE REALLY JUST DOUBLING DOWN AS THIS IS THE NEXT STEP FROM OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PERSPECTIVE.
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THEN HYBRID OF WORK IMPROVEMENTS.THAT WAS THE OTHER STRATEGIC PRIORITY FROM THE TECHNOLOGY TEAM.
YOU THINK OF THE TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE IN HERE? WE HAVE LOTS OF CONFERENCE ROOMS ACROSS THE CITY AND THEY HAVE VARYING DEGREES OF TECHNOLOGY AND THE MORE AND MORE WE REALLY LEAN INTO THIS HYBRID WORK ENVIRONMENT, THE MORE AND MORE MEETINGS WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS, THEY'RE NOT COMING INTO CITY HALL, THEY'RE STAYING IN THEIR OFFICES, WE'RE STAYING IN OURS, STAFF COULD BE AT HOME OR IN THE OFFICE, THE MORE THIS IS IMPORTANT.
THAT $300,000 TOTAL NEED IS TO REPLACE JUST BASICALLY EVERYTHING ACROSS EVERY CONFLICT FROM ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL OF THAT THIS YEAR BUT JUST CONTINUING TO MAKE PROGRESS TOWARDS THAT.
THEN THE LAST SLIDE I HAVE IS I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME REALLY UPCOMING CRITICAL MORE HIGH DOLLAR NEEDS THAT WE HAVE COMING UP.
WE HAVE SOME SERVER INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT THAT'S COMING UP, NOT NECESSARILY THIS FISCAL YEAR BUT WE THINK WE CAN MOVE THAT TO NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BIT CREATIVE.
THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THESE INFLATION COSTS ARE COMING IN.
WHERE THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUCH LOWER DOLLAR AMOUNT, WE'RE HITTING ABOUT THAT $400,000 LARGE FOR A LOT OF THAT SERVER INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON OUR NEAR-TERM HORIZON.
THE COMPANY THAT DOES OUR DISPATCH SOFTWARE, THEY HAVE AN OLDER LEGACY SYSTEM AND A NEWER SYSTEM.
THEY'VE TOLD US WHAT THAT OLDER LEGACY SYSTEM, THERE ARE PIECES OF IT THAT THEY AREN'T UPGRADING ANYMORE.
THERE'S NO MORE PATCHES FOR SOME OF OUR GIS INTEGRATION WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO INSTALL AN OLD VERSION OF THE GIS SOFTWARE JUST TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE DISPATCH SOFTWARE.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN IMMEDIATE NEED WHERE IT'S LIKE WE NEED TO DO THIS THIS YEAR.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE BANGING ON THE TABLE FOR THAT MONEY TODAY.
BUT $800,000 IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO PLAN FOR.
WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT THE FUTURE OF THAT LOOKS LIKE.
THEN HR PAYROLL IMPLEMENTATION WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT RECENTLY.
THAT'S ANOTHER BIG STRATEGIC PRIORITY.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON OUR SYSTEM THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN THE '80S.
WITH THAT, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.
>> WITH THE DISPATCH SYSTEM, DO WE SHARE THAT WITH OTHER PEOPLE? OTHER ORGANIZATIONS? IS THE $800,000 OUR SHARE OR IS THAT THE WHOLE THING?
>> RIGHT NOW THAT'S FOR THE WHOLE THING.
I'D HAVE TO DO THE COMPLETE CALCULATION.
BUT WE DO SHARE THAT WITH THE COPING COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS WELL AS WITH NUPDE.
WE HAVE AN IGA. ACTUALLY THERE WILL BE AN IGA HOPEFULLY COMING TO COUNCIL ON MARCH TO RENEW THAT AND WE'RE DOING SOME UPDATES TO THAT AS WELL.
YES, THAT WILL BE A SHARED COST BUT IT'S STILL A VERY SIGNIFICANT COST.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, SMART REMARKS.
I'M DOWN FOR ANYTHING. [LAUGHTER]
>> LET ME SIP COFFEE FIRST HOLD ON.
>> GOOD MORNING AGAIN. [LAUGHTER] LIANE GARCIA, CLIMATE PROGRAM MANAGER.
I AM STANDING IN TODAY FOR EMPLOYMENT TOP LIST.
JUST AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM OTHER DIVISIONS.
I'M GOING TO DISCUSS NEEDS AS THEY RELATE TO OUR CHEMICALS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, WHICH IS OUR GUIDING DOCUMENT, AS WELL AS JUST POLICY DOCUMENT FOR US TO BEGIN IMPLEMENTING, WHICH WE'RE STILL IN THAT IMPLEMENTATION PHASE.
BEFORE I START, I REALLY JUST WANT TO SHOUT OUT TEAM FLAGSTAFF.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT CALL PURELY CLIMATE ACTION PROJECTS.
THINGS THAT NEED A LITTLE BIT OF CANNIBALIZATION FROM OUR END.
YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT CLIMATE ACTION A LOT OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS.
THAT IS A TESTAMENT TO THE FOLKS IN THIS ROOM.
FOLKS IN TEAM FLAGSTAFF, THAT MIGHT BE EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS AT OR WATER PLANTS OR THE DIGESTER.
IT MIGHT BE PAID PARKING AT THE AIRPORT.
IT MIGHT BE ANYTHING STORMWATER.
THAT'S ALL CLIMATE ACTION TOO.
I WISH I COULD TALK ABOUT THAT.
I'M NOT GOING TO, BUT REALLY JUST TO SAY KUDOS TO TEAM FLAGSTAFF FOR MOVING CARBON NEUTRALITY AND CLIMATE ACTIVE BOARD IN ALL THEIR DECISIONS BECAUSE THAT'S THE DREAM AND WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT BETTER AT IT AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STEPPING UP.
BEFORE, I WANT TO GET INTO THE NUMBERS.
I WANTED TO SAY HERE WE ARE NOT ALONE IN TAKING CLIMATE ACTION.
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WE'RE AMONG 2,000 CITIES ACROSS THE WORLD THAT HAVE DECLARED A CLIMATE EMERGENCY.THERE ARE THOUSANDS MORE CITIES THAT ARE INVESTING AND MOVING ON CLIMATE ACTION.
AT EACH DECISION POINT AROUND THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, WE'VE TRIED TO REALLY DISCUSS THE NEED FOR SUSTAINED OF COMMITMENT.
IT'S THE SAME LEADERSHIP, HARD DECISIONS, AND INVESTMENT THAT WILL BE REQUIRED.
CLIMATE ACTION IS AN INVESTMENT.
WE KNOW THAT REDUCING EMISSIONS NOW WILL CREATE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR THE FUTURE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE BEST REASONS TO DO IT.
THE OTHER REASON TO DO IT IS IT WILL SAVE US MONEY.
WE KNOW THAT'S NOT JUST ME HERE, THAT IS EVERY GLOBAL STUDY EVER DONE.
CLIMATE CHANGE IS A ECOLOGICAL PROBLEM.
IT'S ALSO ACTUALLY MAINLY A FINANCIAL PROBLEM.
WE'VE SEEN THAT ALREADY AT THIS RETREAT IN TALKING ABOUT COST OF THE CITY.
GLOBALLY, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DEAL WITH THE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING TOO SOON.
THAT IS THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS NOT ONLY MAKE A BETTER ENVIRONMENT FOR THE FUTURE BUT ACTUALLY INVEST TODAY TO BE ABLE TO SEE RETURN IN THE FUTURE.
THERE'S ALSO AND I PREFER TO SPEND TIME THINKING ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES.
IT'S AN ECONOMIC DRIVER AND IT BRINGS GREAT BENEFITS.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SUPPORT CLIMATE ACTION BUSINESSES IN THIS REGION WHICH ARE GROWING.
WE'LL HAVE AN EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT IN A FEW WEEKS ABOUT OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH CITIES IN UTAH AND NEW MEXICO AND COLORADO TO INVEST IN CLIMATE ACTION CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL COMPANIES ACTUALLY.
THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIGHT, IS THAT WE REALLY DO SEE THIS AS AN INVESTMENT.
I'M GOING TO GET INTO SOME NUMBERS.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HERE IN MAY, THIS IS A REVIEW.
WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT FINANCIAL INVESTMENT IN MAY.
WE HAD OUR FIRST BIG FINANCIAL NUMBERS, SO YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE THOSE.
THAT CONVERSATION WAS REALLY PREPARATORY FOR THIS ONE TODAY.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE HAVE ESTIMATED THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT NEEDED TO IMPLEMENT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.
THIS IS A VERY BIG NUMBER AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THOUGH TO KNOW THAT THIS NUMBER AND I'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS, BUT THIS NUMBER INCLUDES A $200 MILLION INVESTMENT INTO THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
IT INCLUDES WORK AT THE LANDFILL.
IT INCLUDES WORK ON RECYCLING.
IT INCLUDES A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT AREN'T AGAIN, WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF SUSTAINABILITY SECTION.
OUR ANALYSIS ALSO SHOWS THAT WE STAND TO GAIN A BENEFIT OF ABOUT $621 BILLION.
THAT NET BENEFIT IS PROFIT, THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
THAT'S JUST FINANCIAL BENEFIT.
THAT IS ENERGY SAVINGS AT SOMEBODY'S HOME IF THEY RETROFIT THEIR HOME, FOR INSTANCE, OR INSULATE THEIR ATTIC, OR SAVINGS THAT YOU MIGHT GET FROM ELECTRIFICATION, AND GAS, THERE'S AN UPFRONT COST AND THEN THERE CAN BE SAVINGS DOWN THE LINE.
WE SEE $22 MILLION IN NET BENEFIT THAT COMES FROM $621 MILLION, BENEFIT COMES FROM IT.
WHAT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE BEFORE I GET INTO THE NUMBERS ARE INDIRECT BENEFITS.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE HEALTH BENEFITS OR AIR QUALITY BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY, OR JUST THE JOY OF WALKING DOWN A TREE-LINED STREET.
THAT'S NOT THE BENEFITS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THAT NUMBER.
THESE ARE TRUE FINANCIAL BENEFITS, RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO PLACE THIS IN PERSPECTIVE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ANN ARBOR A LOT.
THEY CAME OUT WITH A CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AT THE SAME TIME AS WE DID OR MAYBE THE YEAR BEFORE.
THEY'RE PRETTY SIMILAR IN TERMS OF DEMOGRAPHICS GROWTH, THE COLLEGE TOWN, SLIGHTLY LARGER POPULATION.
THEY'VE ESTIMATED THE COST OF EARNING CARBON NEUTRALITY TO BE ABOUT ONE MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT TRACKS PRETTY WELL WITH OURS.
WE'VE GOT SOME MORE OF LEGISLATIVE CHALLENGES THAT WILL END UP, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE MORE COSTLY MEASURES ESSENTIALLY, BUT WE ALWAYS LOOK TO THEM.
THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF OTHER CITIES DURING THESE TOO, I'VE JUST CHOSEN FOUR OTHER ONES.
BUT THERE'S THOUSANDS ACROSS THE US.
DENVER, COLORADO ADOPTED A CLIMATE ACTION TAX IN PROTECTION TAX IN 2020.
IT BRINGS US $40 MILLION A YEAR THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO CLIMATE ACTION IN THEIR COMMUNITY WITH A VERY BIG FOCUS ON FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES AND EQUITY.
TUCSON, ARIZONA IS COMPLETING THE CLIMATE PLAN RIGHT NOW AND THE RESIDENTS WILL ACTUALLY VOTE THE SPRING ON AN ADDITION OF A FRANCHISE FEE TO FUND CLIMATE ACTION PROJECTS, LONGMONT COLORADO, REALLY INVEST IN THE BUSINESS PROGRAM.
THEN SANTA FE COUNTY FOCUSES A LOT ON THEIR MUNICIPAL ADMISSION SIDE.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THIS AND THERE'S A MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS TO SPEND ON CLIMATE ACTION.
THIS IS WHAT'S BEHIND THOSE NUMBERS.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO EVERYTHING ON THIS THING, BUT WE JUST BOLDED THE ONES THAT YOU'LL RECOGNIZE.
AGAIN, THE ATMP, ELECTRIFIED INTERCITY FLEET, LANDFILL GAS CAPTURE, THOSE ARE ALL INCLUDED IN THIS PRICE TAG.
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THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN REQUIRES INVESTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE'VE TRIED TO LAY THESE OUT.MANY OF THESE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS MEET THESE GOALS.
THIS IS ALSO AN EVOLVING LIST.
WE WANTED TO KEEP IT WHAT YOU SAW IN MAY, BUT THE CLEAN ENERGY PURCHASE PROJECT, WE'VE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO SAVE THE CITY MILLIONS.
WE'VE ALREADY MOVED FORWARD AND ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED THAT GOAL.
THIS IS ALWAYS EVOLVING LIST AND WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO TRACK HOW IT MIGHT GO AGAIN, THIS IS A PROJECTION OVER A DECADE.
IT'S NOT EXACT, BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST HELP FOLKS UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS WILL TAKE MORE BENEFITS.
AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A REVENUE LISTED THERE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S NOT A BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S JUST NOT A DOLLARS AND CENTS FINANCIALLY.
AGAIN, I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A BIG NUMBER AND THIS IS REALLY JUST A NOTE THAT WE DON'T EXPECT THAT NUMBER TO BE PAID BY LOCAL FUNDING, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, WE KNOW THAT THEY'LL BE MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO FUND CLIMATE ACTION.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. WE'RE USING FEDERAL FUNDING.
WE'VE GOTTEN GRANTS FROM PRIVATE ENTITIES.
WE HAVE THE UTILITY IS INCENTIVIZING THINGS TODAY, RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S CLIMATE ACTION HAPPENING, THERE'S CLIMATE FUNDING HAPPENING ALL THE TIME.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING HARD AT FEDERAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
SPK IS MY HERO ALWAYS, BUT ESPECIALLY NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY COMING DOWN THE PIPE FOR CLIMATE ACTION.
IT'S OVERWHELMING AT SOME POINT.
THE FEDS ARE ALIGNED WITH WHERE WE'RE GOING.
THE FEDS WANT TO SEE CLIMATE ACTION IN ALL OF THEIR PROJECTS.
WHETHER THAT'S TRANSPORTATION OR FUNDING ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.
I THINK WE'RE WORKING ON THREE LARGE GRANT APPLICATIONS RIGHT NOW AMONG THE SUSTAINABILITY TEAM.
BEYOND FEDERAL FUNDING, THIS LANDSCAPE IS CONSTANTLY EVOLVING AND WE REALLY CAN'T UNDERSCORE THE VALUE OF OUR PARTNERS.
WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT ANY UTILITY RECENTLY AND THEIR CLIMATE WORK.
THEY'VE BEEN MAKING SOME BIG MOVES.
THEY'VE ALREADY ELECTRIFIED SEVERAL OF THEIR SCHOOLS, WHICH ARE BIG BUILDINGS AND HARD TO ELECTRIFY.
IT'S REALLY WOULDN'T SEE THEM MOVING MOUNTAIN LINE, AS SCOTT SAID, I THINK THEY'RE THROWING A PARTY IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS ABOUT THEIR FIRST ELECTRIC BUS.
OUR PARTNERS ARE ALSO MOVING FORWARD AND INVESTING IN CLIMATE ACTION AS WELL.
THESE PROJECTS AND THERE'S A LOT ON THIS SLIDE, BUT THE POINT IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE DIRECT FUNDING.
WE'RE GOING TO RELY A LOT ON POLICY CHANGE.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO RELY A LOT ON MARKET CHANGE.
THAT GRAPH ON THE SIDE, IT REALLY IS JUST TO SHOW THE GROSS THEY JUST 10 YEARS IN TERMS OF FINANCING FOR CLIMATE ACTION.
THIS IS AN INVESTMENT, THIS IS JUST FINANCING AND LOANS.
THOSE NUMBERS ARE IN THE BILLIONS.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH DOUBLED IN THE LAST 10 YEARS FROM 300 BILLION TO ABOUT $600 MILLION IN INVESTING IN CLIMATE ACTION.
THE RED ON THERE IS RENEWABLE ENERGY.
THE BLUE IS LOW CARBON TRANSPORTATION, WHICH IS MOSTLY ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
ARE PROBLEMS WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY HIGH DEMAND.
THAT IS GREAT BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO MAKE MONEY.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES BECAUSE OF THAT BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING THOSE HIGH DEMANDS.
WE'RE GOING TO RELY A LOT ON TECHNOLOGY CHANGE AND MARKET CHANGE.
THAT'S GREAT. WE WANT THE CLIMATE SOLUTION TO BE PRICED AS THE CHEAPEST SOLUTION, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PERSUADE PEOPLE INTO MAKING CHOICES WHICH IS HARD AND TAKE SOME WORK. YES.
HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THE DIP IN 2018? I'M JUST ASKING OUT OF CURIOSITY.
>> I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S GREAT.
I'LL FIND OUT. [LAUGHTER] IT'S A BIG DIP.
WE DIDN'T NOTICE THAT WAS NOT NECESSARILY RENEWABLES ARE A LITTLE BIT IN EVS WAS MOSTLY THE DIP THERE.
WE ALSO WANT TO TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO ABOUT BEHAVIOR CHANGE.
THINGS THAT CJ JUST TALKED ABOUT, HYBRID WORK POLICIES.
WE WILL ALSO SEE BEHAVIOR CHANGE.
THAT'S THE THIRD HERE. WHAT WILL THIS LOOK LIKE? THE WORK IS BROAD AND I WISH THAT I COULD TELL YOU, COUNCIL THAT WE CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM WITH JUST SOLAR PANELS OR ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
OUR LIVES A LOT EASIER IF THAT WAS THE CASE.
BUT WE KNOW THAT'S NOT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.
IT'S NOT THE REALITY OF CLIMATE WORK, IT'S A MILLION SMALL CHANGES SOMETIMES, BUT WE'VE GOT FOUR MAIN PRIORITIES AND NEEDS 15 TARGET AREAS REALLY DO HIGHLIGHT THE MANY DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK.
YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD ABOUT, SHOWING THOSE.
I WANTED TO JUST PAUSE HERE FOR IS BECAUSE THE WORK IS SO BROAD.
BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING FROM THE POLICY LEVEL DOWN TO THE INDIVIDUAL BEHAVIOR CHANGE LEVEL. BUT THAT TAKES TIME.
RIGHT NOW I'M TRYING TO TAKE CONTRACTORS OUT TO COFFEE TO TALK ABOUT THE PUMPS.
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IT'S THESE LITTLE MOVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO SEE.AGAIN, WE WORK AT THE POLICY LEVEL TOO.
WE WORK AT THE BIG FUNDING LEVEL, BUT IT'S REALLY BROAD.
THAT'S WHY YOU WILL SEE STACK REQUESTS COMING FROM US THIS YEAR TO FOCUS ON TRANSPORTATION, AS WELL AS ON JUST BUILDING COMMUNITY CAPACITY.
BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT DOING THIS BROAD WORK AND DOING IT AT ALL LEVELS BECAUSE WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO THAT.
I'M GOING TO JUST TALK ON THREE TOPICS, REALLY QUICKLY DIVING INTO TRANSPORTATION.
WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO, SO WE NEED TO MOVE THE NEEDLE QUICKLY ON TRANSPORTATION.
SOME OF THESE NEED FUNDING FOR, AND SOME OF THESE, THERE'S A LOT OF POLICY DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
WE NEED TO HAVE OUR STANDARDS AND OUR CODES MATCH WHERE WE WANT TO GO AS A CITY, MATCH OUR CLIMATE GOALS, AND THAT TAKES A WHILE.
WE'RE WORKING ON IT, WE'VE INVESTED IN IT.
NOW, TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, YOU WILL SEE A REQUEST FROM THERE.
IT IS TAKING A WATER VIEW OF TRANSPORTATION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
INSTEAD OF SAYING, WELL, WE'LL JUST BUILD AS MANY ROADS AS NEEDED, AS MANY ROADS AS PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO DRIVE HERE WHEN WE HAVE A NEW DEVELOPMENT.
WE DON'T THINK ABOUT WATER THAT WAY.
WE THINK ABOUT WATER AS, HOW DO WE REDUCE THE DEMAND? WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND OUR WATER MEANS.
HOW DO WE REDUCE THE DEMAND AND TRY TO CONSERVE? TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT IS REALLY ABOUT THAT, AND FLIPPING THAT SCRIPT AND SAY, INSTEAD OF JUST BUILDING AND BUILDING, HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT HOW TO EFFECTIVELY USE THE NETWORK THAT WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY? A PROJECT TO NOTE IS MICRO-MOBILITY SHARE.
WE'D LIKE TO FIND STUDENTS AND/OR E-BIKE EXPERTS OF FLAGSTAFFS.
WE WERE ALREADY ON CONTRACT TO DO THIS IN 2020.
THE COMPANY WE WERE WITH BROKE THAT CONTRACT AND NO LONGER EXISTS ANYMORE.
THE PANDEMIC CAUSED A LOT OF SHIFTS IN MICRO-MOBILITY SHARE, WHICH WAS DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE WE WERE REALLY EXCITED.
SHARED MOBILITY CAN BRING QUICK TRIPS, CAN BRING ACCESSIBLE TRIPS TO TONS OF PEOPLE, RESIDENTS, VISITORS, SCOOTERS ALIKE, SO WE'RE WORKING NOW TO RESTART THAT PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
THE FUNDING OF ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL TO ACHIEVING OUR CLIMATE GOAL.
THOSE OF YOU ARE TIED, AND THAT'S WHY WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IT.
THE ATMP REALLY CONTRIBUTES TO THE BIG SHIFT TO THINK ABOUT OUR INVESTMENTS.
ALL OF THESE THINGS HERE ARE REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING FORWARD ON THE BIG SHIFT, THINKING DIFFERENTLY ABOUT OUR TRANSPORTATION STRUCTURE.
ENERGY, IT'S LESS DISTRIBUTED THAN TRANSPORTATION, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE TRANSPORTATION IS A MILLION TINY DECISIONS EVERY DAY.
BUT WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT SOME 20,000 HOMES IN FLAGSTAFF THAT WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT THEIR ENERGY SYSTEMS. ENERGY EFFICIENCY. EVERYBODY LOVES, IT'S THE LOWEST-HANGING FRUIT.
THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES WITHOUT ATTIC INSULATION.
YOU CAN'T BELIEVE IN FLAGSTAFF, MANY.
YOU CAN LOOK RIGHT NOW WHO'S GOT THE BIGGEST BICYCLES.
THAT MEANS THEY HAVE THE MOST HEAT ESCAPING FROM THE ROOF.
IT CAN SHOW YOU, MY GOSH, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. I HAD BICYCLES TOO.
WE MENTIONED TO ROSCOE YESTERDAY THAT GARY IS WORKING WITH THEM SO IS JOE AND SCOTT.
REALLY, EVERYBODY ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION IS WORKING ON THIS ENERGY SAVINGS CONTRACT PROJECT, WE CALL IT THE ESCO.
THIS FINANCES INVESTMENTS IN THE CITY-OWNED BUILDINGS.
WE'RE GOING TO START PHASE 1, AS WE SAID, IT'S WEATHERIZATION AND LIGHTING.
BECAUSE THERE'S A RETURN ON INVESTMENT THERE.
IT MEANS THIS BUILDING HAS GREAT LEDS BECAUSE IT'S DUE, A LOT OF THEM DON'T.
THERE ARE HUGE ENERGY SAVINGS THERE, AND WE'RE LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE WHEN WE DON'T INVEST ENOUGH.
WE HAVE A LOT OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, AS YOU HEARD ABOUT.
A LOT OF THAT IS IN EFFICIENCY.
THE SOONER WE CAN INVEST IN THESE THINGS, THE BETTER AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE RETURN.
THEN THE SECOND PHASE WE'LL GET INTO THE BIGGER STUFF, THE BOILER AT THE LIBRARY.
GOING INTO ELECTRIFICATION OF BUILDINGS, THINGS AT THE WATER BASIN, THAT WILL BE PHASE 2.
AGAIN, WE'RE HOPING TO THE IDEA THAT THIS ALL PAYS FOR ITSELF, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE FINANCING FOLKS INVOLVED.
WE'RE ALSO PUSHING ON ELECTRIFICATION AND EFFICIENCY ACROSS THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE SOMEWHAT LIMITED BY STATE POLICY HERE.
BUT WE KNOW THAT WE BURN A LOT OF FOSSIL FUELS IN OUR HOMES.
WE COMBUST FOSSIL FUELS IN OUR HOMES.
WE WANT TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT FOR EFFICIENCY REASONS, FOR CLIMATE REASONS, FOR HEALTH REASONS, MAYBE MOST IMPORTANT.
THAT TAKES A LOT OF DEEP WORK WITH RESIDENTS.
WE'VE GOT NAU STUDENTS GOING AROUND, JUST KNOCKING ON DOORS RIGHT NOW, TALKING TO FOLKS ABOUT ENERGY AND WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT IT.
BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF WORK THAT IT TAKES.
I TRY TO DO IT EVERY TIME I PRESENT.
COOL CLIMATE HEAT PUMPS WORK IN FLAGSTAFF.
THEY ARE HERE, PEOPLE LOVE THEM.
THEY'LL HEAT YOUR HOMES TO NEGATIVE 30 DEGREES.
BUT IT TAKES A LOT OF THAT CHANGING HEARTS AND MINDS TO DO THIS, AND SO THIS RELATES AGAIN TO STAFF CAPACITY ENGAGEMENT.
WE WANT TO INVEST IN COMMUNICATIONS THIS YEAR TO REALLY IMPROVE OUR WEBSITE, TO GET SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP ON OUR WEBSITE,
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AND REALLY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY REALLY EFFECTIVELY, AND GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THOSE ON THE GROUNDS THINGS AS IT RELATES TO ENERGY BECAUSE AGAIN, IF WE'RE CONVINCING SOMEONE TO GO INTO THEIR HOME AND MAKE A CHANGE, YOU'VE GOT TO BUILD A LOT OF TRUST, AND YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE LEARNT A LOT OF THESE HARDSHIPS.
>> THEY JUST HAD THIS IMAGE POP IN MY HEAD OF CHARLTON HESTON CLUTCHING HIS GAS STOVE.
>> NEIGHBORHOOD RESILIENCE AND EQUITY.
THESE WILL REMAIN CENTRAL TO OUR WORK.
THEY ARE NOT THE SHINY THINGS.
BUT AN EXAMPLE IS THE PAST FEW WEEKS OF SNOW.
A NEIGHBORHOOD STRENGTH SOMETIMES CAN BE SHOWN BY, WHO KNOWS THEIR NEIGHBORS? WHO CAN GO ASK FOR HELP WHEN THEY NEED HELP SHOVELING SNOW OVER.
THAT ALSO MEETS THE EQUITY SIDE TOO.
WE KNOW WHO HAS GREATER CHALLENGES WHEN OUR SIDEWALKS AREN'T SHOVELED.
WE NEED TO INVEST IN BUILDING COMMUNITY CAPACITY.
STEVE THOMPSON ON OUR TEAM LEADS THIS.
WE WANT TO INVEST IN THAT TO GET COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS ENGAGED.
WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF FOLKS WERE OUT THERE ALREADY SNOW SHOVELING.
BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE MIGHT BE MORE.
WE ARE WORKING ON A SNOW HEROES PROGRAM THAT WILL USE TECHNOLOGY AND ADS.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BUT IT'S GOING TO GET PEOPLE WHO CAN SHOVEL TO THOSE FOLKS WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE ASKED FOR HELP BEFORE, AND WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MAGIC IN THIS STUFF BECAUSE LET'S SAY SOMEBODY GETS CONNECTED TO GET HELP SHOVELING OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY.
MAYBE THAT LEADS TO RELATIONSHIP.
YOU KNOW YOUR ELDERLY NEIGHBOR DOWN THE STREET, MAYBE YOU KNOW WHO TO GO ASK FOR A CUP OF SUGAR.
THAT'S GREAT, AND THERE'S REAL VALUE THERE.
BUT MAYBE ALSO, IF YOUR REFRIGERATOR DIES, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR MEDICATION SOMEWHERE.
MAYBE MORE IMPORTANTLY, YOU COULD ALSO GO AND LET'S SAY YOU ARE AN ELDERLY RESIDENT, AND YOU CANNOT GET THE PINE NEEDLES OUT OF YOUR GUTTERS EVERY SPRING TO PREPARE FOR FIRE SEASON.
IF WE HAD AN EMPEROR FLYING EVENT, WHAT IF WE HAD SOME MORE COMMUNITY STRENGTH, AND NEIGHBORS OR MAKING SURE EVERYBODY'S HOUSES ARE FIRING.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT THAT SHINY STUFF.
BUT IT IS REALLY INVESTING AND CONNECTING OUR NEIGHBORS.
BECAUSE THAT IS COMMUNITY RESILIENCE AND THAT IS COMMUNITY EQUITY, AND THAT'S HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.
THANKS. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
YES, PLEASE. CAN I HAVE QUESTIONS? [LAUGHTER]
>> GREAT. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SIDE QUESTION, BUT A COMMENT FIRST.
OBVIOUSLY, I THINK EVERYONE HERE KNOWS WHERE I STAND ON PROPER NEUTRALITY AND OUR EFFORTS WITHIN THE BUDGET TO REACH OUR GOALS AND TO WALK OUR WALK AND TALK OUR TALK.
IT IS MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE ON COUNCIL REPRESENTING THAT VOICE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND TO DO SO IS PRACTICALLY AS POSSIBLE, EVEN WHEN THE COMMUNITY IS CLAMORING FOR REACHING FOR THE STARS ON THESE THINGS.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO TACKLE THIS.
I ALSO WANT TO CALL UP STACEY PK, YOU ARE UP. [LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE]
>> I THOUGHT I SAW MY QUESTION
>> WELL, COME ON UP BECAUSE I DO THINK YOU'LL HAVE SOME INSIGHT INTO THIS.
STACEY, I DON T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO ANSWER VERY HONESTLY.
BUT I HAVE APPLIED FOR GRANTS BEFORE I WORKED WITH THE GOVERNMENT.
JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, WHEN I'M APPLYING TO BE AN NSF FELLOW WITH THE NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION.
THEY HAVE BROAD CATEGORIES, BOXES THEY LIKE TO CHECK.
THINGS THAT MAKE THEM FEEL GOOD AND THINGS THAT FULFILL THEIR LARGER AGENDA WHEN THEY'RE DOLING OUT FUNDS.
MY QUESTION FOR YOU AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE REALLY DISCUSSED THIS MUCH, BUT WHEN WE ARE REWARDED FEDERAL GRANTS, HOW OFTEN IS THAT PROCESS HELPED OUT BY OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IN TERMS OF THESE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE DOLLARS AND A LOT OF THE MONEY IS COMING IN? ARE YOU ABLE TO GO DOWN THE LIST AND CHECK THAT BOX THAT WE'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THESE EFFORTS? DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHAT ARE THE INTANGIBLES IN THE UPLIFT OF HAVING CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS AS A CITY,
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HELPING BROADLY ALL OF OUR EFFORTS IN TERMS OF RAISING FUNDS?>> [NOISE] VERY GOOD. WHAT YOU ARE SEEING NOW, ESPECIALLY ON THE BILL AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS, YOU KNOW HOW THEY HAVE.
LIKE THE NOTICE OF FUNDING, THE HAVEN'T MET THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA.
>> SOME OF THAT CRITERIA, IT TALKS ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE OR SUSTAINABILITY.
YOU'RE WORKING NOW ON NAHS APPLICATION TO ADD THAT IN THERE.
IT'S VERY COMMON THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT THEY'RE ASKING THAT QUESTION, AND WE'RE ADDING THAT NARRATIVE INTO OUR GRANT APPLICATIONS.
I DO THINK THE REVIEWERS ARE LOOKING AT THAT, AND I THINK THEY ARE GIVING US A THUMBS UP.
>> THAT MAKES OUR NAH APPLICATIONS TO WORK AT IT.
>> YES. WHETHER WE'RE GETTING ADDITIONAL POINTS, BUT WHEN THEY ASK THE QUESTION WHERE WE'RE CHECKING THAT, HOPEFULLY, GETTING MORE POINTS BY HAVING THAT.
SOMETIMES WE'RE CAREFUL HOW WE WORD THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT COMMIT OURSELVES ANYTIME AT AN APPLICATION TOO MUCH SO THAT WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY WHEN WE GET THE AWARD.
BUT, YES, I WOULD SAY IT'S HELPFUL.
>> THANK YOU. JIM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT I JUST SENSED THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
NOW WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A LOT OF THESE GRANTS COMING OUT, THESE EPA GRANTS WORKING ON A BIG ONE NOW WITH KAYLEE.
THEN YOU ARE SEEING THAT QUESTION THOUGH NOW MORE ON GRANT APPLICATIONS, I THINK GOVERNMENT IS SEEING, START TO ASK.
>> MY POINT WAS THAT I THINK OUR EFFORTS HERE LIFT ALL BOATS.
THERE'S AN INTANGIBLE ELEMENT THERE OF MAKING US MORE COMPETITIVE ELSEWHERE.
CONTEXTUALLY, IT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT.
>> WE KNOW WHERE THE FEDS ARE.
WE KNOW WHAT THEY WANT. THEY'RE ALIGNED WITH US, AND WE'RE SEEING THAT.
THEY'VE ALSO GOT A GREAT FOCUS ON ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, AND EQUITY, AND MAKING SURE THAT PUBLIC DOLLARS ARE REACHING ALL GROUPS.
THAT'S NOT JUST ON CLIMATE PROJECTS. I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
THAT'S ON WATER PROJECTS, AND FIRE, AND ALL THESE THINGS.
>> GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
>> THANKS. GREAT PRESENTATION.
YOU'RE ALWAYS SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
YES, THANK YOU. COUPLE OF THINGS.
I ATTENDED CHURCH ON SAN FRANCISCO.
I WAS JUST OVER THERE WEDNESDAY.
WE RECEIVED A SUSTAINABILITY [OVERLAPPING] GRANT FOR OUR CHAPEL.
IT WAS BEFORE I RAN FOR COUNCIL, SO NO BILL WHATEVER THERE.
I MET A FURNACE GUY THERE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT INSTALLING ELECTRIC FURNACE.
>> OUR BUILDING IS 60 YEARS OLD.
WHAT HE TOLD ME IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER $20,000 TO RETROFIT THAT BUILDING FOR AN ELECTRIC FURNACE.
PLUS NOW WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PROBLEM BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT IN WHATEVER THAT THING IS THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT IN.
MY POINT IS THAT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THOSE SITUATIONS? THAT WE'RE A SMALL CHURCH AND WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GO OUT TO OUR BIGGER CHURCH, SISTERS AND BROTHERS AND WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM FOR SOME SUPPORTING SYSTEMS. WE'LL EVENTUALLY GET ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THIS.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE OTHER FOLKS THAT MAYBE DO NOT HAVE THOSE RESOURCES THAT THEY CAN GO OUT TO? IT'S FINE FOR US TO WANT TO DO CARBON NEUTRALITY.
BUT WHAT I WANT US TO THINK ABOUT ALL THE TIME AND NOT JUST SOMETIMES BECAUSE I'M MENTIONING IT, IS THAT EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT THIS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HELP FOLKS GET TO WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE? THEY DO NOT HAVE THOSE RESOURCES.
THAT HAS GOT TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
WE JUST CAN'T TALK ABOUT CARBON NEUTRALITY AND NOT TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET BIGGER.
[OVERLAPPING] I'M GOING TO KEEP TELLING PEOPLE THAT BECAUSE AS I SAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALL BE YOUNG FOREVER.
WE'RE ALL GOING TO GET OLDER AT SOME POINT AND THEN [LAUGHTER] GOES TO THE BUSES.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION? HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET BUSES OUT TO MY HOUSE SO I DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE IN THE SNOW BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO ANYMORE?
>> THOSE ARE JUST THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I WANT US TO HAVE.
WE CAN NOT JUST HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
WE'VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT THOSE OTHER PIECES.
>> THANK YOU. IF I MAY RESPOND [INAUDIBLE].
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>> COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, I'M REALLY GLAD YOU ARE THE BEST.
WE KNOW THAT THE INVESTMENT PRETTY GOOD FOR RETROFITS.
THE ELECTRIFICATION AND EFFICIENCY, FOLKS DO NOT HAVE THAT AND IT IS A HIGH GAP.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU.
I WANT TO COME OVER AND I WANT TO TALK TO YOUR HVAC GUY TO DIG INTO THOSE NUMBERS.
FRANKLY, WE DO THIS AT THIS POINT.
WE'RE DOING THIS WITH INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS THAT CALL US AND SAY, "CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS?" WE'RE AT THAT LEVEL AND WE KNOW WE NEED TO BE.
BECAUSE THE FOLKS THAT ARE TRYING TO DO THIS ARE SHOWING LEADERSHIP AND TRYING TO GET THERE.
WE HAVE THAT FINANCING GAP. THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THIS IS FOR RESIDENCES, SO IT DOESN'T APPLY.
BUT FOR LOW-INCOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS, YOU CAN GET I THINK DOUBLED THE SIZE OF REAPING.
BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT FOLKS DON'T HAVE IT IN POCKET AND WE KNOW THAT WE CAN'T JUST HAVE THE RICH FOLKS ELECTRIFYING THEIR HOMES.
WHAT WE DO IS WE NEED TO BE ASKED FOR YOUR INCOME VERIFICATION AND IT'S A MUCH LONGER, MORE INTENSIVE PROCESS, BUT WE WANT TO GET FOLKS AT HIGHER REBATE, SO THE CITY GIVES UP CHANCE.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, BECAUSE THERE'S MORE MONEY AVAILABLE, THE FEDS HAVE RECOGNIZED THIS.
THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT HAS INCREDIBLE BENEFITS, PARTICULARLY IF YOU ARE MIDDLE-INCOME AND EVEN BETTER IF YOU ARE LOW-INCOME HOUSEHOLD.
THAT IS WHERE THE FEDS ARE COMING IN BECAUSE AGAIN, WE KNOW WE HAVE THIS GAP.
THE FEDS ARE COMING IN TO PROVIDE THAT INCENTIVE.
BECAUSE WHAT WE KNOW IS WE KNOW WE NEED TO GET THERE.
IT'S JUST ABOUT HOW DO WE FINANCE IT AND HOW DO WE MAKE IT HAPPEN.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS MADE THIS VERY CLEAR.
IT IS TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THIS THINGS, AND MUCH OF IT IS STARTING JANUARY 1ST.
IT'S ALREADY HERE IS TAX REBATES FOR DOING THESE THINGS AND YOU CAN GET I THINK UP TO $8,000 IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT IN A LOW-INCOME HOUSE FOR THESE THINGS.
THAT'S ALL KINDS OF EFFICIENCY, ELECTRIFICATION, ETC.
COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, THAT STILL DOESN'T FEEL GOOD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE THINKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT'S [INAUDIBLE].
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MATHEWS ASKED THE QUESTION.
>> THE QUESTION I WAS LOOKING TO GO TO APS WAS HAVING A MEETING NEXT FRIDAY, BUT [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER].
BUT ONE THING THAT'S BEEN ON MY RADAR TO GO AND I READ THROUGH THE CHANGES AND THE UPDATES TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.
IT TALKED ABOUT APS DOING THEIR PART TO GO TO MORE RENEWABLE ENERGIES ON THE ELECTRIC GRID.
BUT I ALSO HAVE READ IN THE PAPER LAST YEAR SOMETIME, SRP AND APS SAID IN AN ARTICLE THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE CURRENT NEEDS INTO 2023, WHICH WE'RE NOW IN.
THEN I LOOK BACK AND SEE [INAUDIBLE] WAS WITHOUT ELECTRICITY FOR NINE HOURS ON THANKSGIVING DAY.
WHAT HAPPENED IN TEXAS, AND DETROIT, AND OTHER PLACES THAT WENT DAYS IN VERY SEVERE WEATHER WITHOUT ELECTRICITY.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT APS IS DOING TO IMPROVE THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE.
BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A CLIMATE THAT IS VERY COLD AND WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, WE CAN'T REALLY PREDICT HOW MUCH WORSE IT'S GOING TO GET.
AS WE KEEP LOADING THE DEMANDS ONTO THEM, WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO ENSURE TO THE PUBLIC THAT THEY CAN KEEP UP AND KEEP US WARM? IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER WARMING SOURCE THEN IN ALL ELECTRIC GRID. WHAT ARE THEY DOING?
>> TALKING ABOUT THAT. [OVERLAPPING].
>> OF COURSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER.
>> BEFORE YOU RESPOND, I JUST WANT THIS GREAT CONVERSATION.
I KNOW THAT IT'S A LOT OF VALUE AND SO I HAVEN'T INTERRUPTED, WE ARE RUNNING BEHIND.
I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
I'M GOING TO CUT IT OFF OF MY TIME WITH YOU ALL, BUT I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY ON TOPIC.
WE STAY UP HERE AND WE DON'T GET TOO MUCH IN THE MEETING PROBLEM-SOLVING EVERYTHING RIGHT IN THIS MOMENT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THAT.
ALSO MAYOR, AFTERWARD, IF YOU COULD READ THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HOUSES' COMMENT, JUST THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU.
>> I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST, IT'S PROBABLY GOOD IF WE SHOULD BRING APS UP HERE AND HAVE THIS CONVERSATION [NOISE] AND BRING THEM INTO A COUNCIL MEETING.
I WOULD SAY TODAY OUR GRID IS 50% RENEWABLE OR 50% CLEAN.
WE'RE ALREADY [NOISE] IN AND THAT'S THE GRID WE'VE HAD FOR A LONG TIME.
THEY ARE THINGS THAT APS HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
THERE ARE NATIONAL EFFORTS TO INCREASE THE RESILIENCE OF OUR GRID AND ALSO EXPAND.
WE'RE GOING TO NEED MAYBE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF
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ELECTRIC POWER IN THE COMING DECADES. WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.WE DID THAT IN THE '70S AND '80S ACTUALLY, WE'VE DOUBLED THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION LINES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
IT IS NOT OUT OF A BLUE MOON THAT WE COULD DO THIS.
THIS COUNTRY HAS DONE IT BEFORE BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO.
I WILL SAY TOO ABSOLUTELY END UP RESILIENCE AND POWER WENT OFF.
IN SOME WAYS, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT.
IF YOU HAVE A GAS FURNACE IN YOUR HOME, IT NEEDS ELECTRICITY TO RUN UNLESS IT'S DEEPLY OLD.
WE ALREADY HAVE SOME OF THAT RESILIENCE AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY A CONCERN THAT WE REALLY WANT TO LOOK INTO.
BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BRING APS UP HERE AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE I THINK THESE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.
>> I'LL READ COUNCIL MEMBERS HOUSES' COMMENTS AND THEN I JUST HAVE A [INAUDIBLE] THEN.
I LOVE THE CREATIVITY HERE, JENNY, AND THE FOCUS ON COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT.
I WOULD JUST URGE MAKING SURE THE MESSAGES, WE ARE IN THIS, NOT COMING ACROSS AS, YOU'VE GOT THIS.
IN OTHER WORDS, NOT RISKING COMMUNITY RESILIENCY COMING ACROSS LIKE YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.
BUT THE FOCUS ON BUILDING RESILIENCY AND NEIGHBORHOOD EQUITY IS REALLY EXCITING AND IMPORTANT TO ME SO I THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THEM IN.
>> MY THING IS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AND PROBABLY NOT PART OF A COUNCIL MEETING, BUT COULD WE HAVE A COST SAVINGS DISCUSSION LIKE A DEEP DIVE INTO EACH LINE ITEM AS PUBLICLY.
MAYBE IT'S A JUST A PUBLIC MEETING THAT'S ALL ABOUT THAT WHERE YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW EACH OF THOSE LINE ITEMS WAS CALCULATED.
>> THANK YOU, JENNY. [NOISE] [APPLAUSE]
>> GREAT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE READY TO MOVE INTO OUR BREAK.
WHY DON'T WE GET BACK AND GET STARTED AT 10:30. HOW DOES THAT SOUND? [BACKGROUND] I'M GOING TO CUT THE EXTRA TIME OFF, MIKE.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW YOU SHOULD CUT OUT OF YOUR TIME.
>> YEAH. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
>> BUT YOU WANT TO GET STARTED AT 10:30, DOES THAT SOUND GOOD?
>> ATTENTION, I'M ASKING THE STAFF ABOUT WHETHER THEY MEET THE FULL-TIME OR WE CAN ALSO GO LATER.
I'LL LOOK AGAIN WITH THEM AND SEE, A LOT OF TIMES THEY BUILD IN FLEXIBILITY IN A REALLY GREAT WAY.
EVERYONE FEELING ENERGIZED AFTER THEIR BREAK.
>> ALWAYS FEEL FREE TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR BODY, STAND UP WHEN YOU NEED TO, IF YOU STAY ABOUT THE COURSE.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AN ONGOING CONVERSATION FROM WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE LAST RETREAT.
I'M CURIOUS, WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER FROM THE LAST RETREAT REGARDING THE SESSION THAT I FACILITATED IN PARTICULAR?
>> TRUST. WHAT ABOUT TRUST? VICE MAYOR.
>> IT IS A BIG WORD YOU MATTER IN SUPPORT OF SOMEBODY.
>> OKAY. IT'S A BIG PART OF WHAT NATALIE, WHY DOES IT MATTER TRUST?
>> WELL, I THINK WE'RE IN A TEAM-BUILDING PROCESS HERE.
I THINK THE CITY WANTS TO SEE OUR COUNCIL WORKING WELL TOGETHER AND WORKING FORWARD, AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE BUILDING BLOCK OF THAT IS TRUST AND PASSIONATE.
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE COMPONENTS OF TRUST THAT WE TALKED ABOUT? WHAT MAKES UP TRUST? YOU CAN LOOK AT THE NOTES IF YOU WANT TO.
>> BY ASKING YOU, IT HELPS YOUR BRAIN RECALL AND REMEMBER.
>> HONESTY. YEAH, THAT'S A HUGE PART OF JUST BEING HONEST.
THEN THERE'S A CONSISTENCY COMPONENT.
IT'S DOING WHAT YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO AND KNOWING WHAT TO EXPECT OF PEOPLE THAT THERE'S SOME CONSISTENCY TO THAT HONESTY OR THE WAY IN WHICH THEY OPERATE IS WHAT BUILDS TRUST OVER TIME.
GUYS, REMEMBER THE JAR MARBLES ANALOGY.
THAT IT'S EASY TO KNOCK IT OVER AND IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO EARN IT BACK.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS REMEMBER BESIDES TRUST THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME? I'M SORRY.
>> I DON'T REMEMBER YESTERDAY.
>> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] THAT'S OKAY.
BUT THIS IS GOOD. THIS IS HOW ADULTS LEARN.
YOU'RE BEING FORCED TO RECALL AND IT'LL STICK IN YOUR BRAIN BETTER WHEN WE RECALL IT NOW.
>> I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT ONE STRENGTH WE HAD AND THEN ONE AREA
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THAT WE LOOK AT IN THE GROUP.>> YEAH. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE FRAMEWORK OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A GOOD LEADER OR A GOOD COMMUNICATOR WHICH GO HAND IN HAND.
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THAT AREA OF STRENGTH, AN AREA OF GROWTH FOR THEM? YES [INAUDIBLE]. SAT THAT AGAIN?
>> THE GROWTH WAS TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS.
>> THE GROWTH WAS TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS.
THAT GETS TO ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IS FUNDAMENTAL TO GREAT LEADERSHIP, WHICH IS FUNDAMENTALLY CURIOSITY.
WHEN WE SHOW UP IN A ROOM HAVING ALREADY DECIDED, WE LIMIT THE OPTIONS.
WE KNOW THIS BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE MIGHT HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE PASSIONATELY COMING TO YOU WITH SOMETHING IMPORTANT.
WE ALSO NEED TO BE OPEN TO THESE SOLUTIONS.
WE AS LEADERS CAN HELP GUIDE THEM TO SOME OF THAT THINKING AS WELL.
WHICH IS NOT TO SAY THAT PASSION IS BAD.
BUT HOW CAN PASSION LIMIT US, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS?
>> WELL, PASSION WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY WEAKNESSES.
>> YEAH. MANY TIMES JUST IN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, YOU'RE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT SOMETHING, GET IN YOUR OWN GERMLINE, TO BEING OPEN TO VARYING OTHER POINTS OF VIEW OR PERSPECTIVES, SO I HAVE TO BALANCE THAT.
>> RIGHT. AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS, OH, YOU'RE DEMOCRAT, I'M NOT GOING TO TALK TO YOU.
NOT THAT I'M SAYING ANYBODY HERE ON THE COUNCIL WOULD DO THAT, BUT WE'VE HEARD THIS, WE'VE SEEN THIS AND IT'S BEEN REINFORCED IN OUR NATIONAL MEDIA.
OR YOU'RE CONSERVATIVE I'M NOT GOING TO TALK TO YOU.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LUNCH YESTERDAY.
>> YEAH. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT PASSION FOR A TOPIC ISN'T GREAT AS WE HEAR COMMUNITY MEMBERS COMING IN.
BUT THERE IS A COMPONENT THAT I TALKED ABOUT BRIEFLY, WHICH WAS THIS CONCEPT OF THE STORY WE TELL OURSELVES THIS IDEA OF [INAUDIBLE] VICTIM YELLING AND HOPELESS.
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT THAT THAT THEY COULD SPEAK TO? WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU RELATE TO IT.
BUT I HAVE TO FILL IN THE GAPS.
>> IT MEANS THAT SOMETIMES IF YOU HAVE PASSION, IS TOO MUCH THE FOREFRONT THAT YOU CAN BEGIN TO SEE SOMEONE WHO DISAGREES WITH YOU AS THE VILLAIN IN YOUR STORY.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. THEN YOU CAN THEN SET YOURSELF AS THE VICTIM AND THEN IT BECOMES A JUSTIFICATION FOR YOUR OWN VERBAL VIOLENCE TOWARD THEM, AND I SAY VIOLENCE IN THE FRAME OF MAYBE AGGRESSIVE WORDS OR EVEN JUST SHUTTING DOWN THE OPTIONS FOR CONVERSATION, THE OPTIONS FOR BEING WILLING TO NEGOTIATE.
>> CAN I READ WHAT SOME OTHER HOUSE SAID?
>> THERE WAS AN ACRONYM AND THEN SHE ASKS LABA, L-A-B-A.
>> THEN SHE SAYS, WE TEND TO TELL TWO STORIES WHERE WE ARE THE VICTIMS AND THE OPPOSITION IS THE VILLAIN.
>> YES. WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THAT ONE AS WELL.
WAS THERE ANY MORE OF THOSE HANDOUTS? I THOUGHT I PRINTED NINE.
>> THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO ASK SOMEONE TO DO THAT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS PICK ONE.
>> I'M SORRY. CAN I SAY SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP GOING?
>> YOU GUYS CAN INTERRUPT ME AS A FACILITATOR, I CAN GO WITH IT. YES?
>> I KNOW WHERE, I SHOULD SAY, I THINK I DO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BUT PASSION CAN BE NECESSARY A LOT OF TIMES BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME SUBJECTS THAT WE OUGHT TO BE PASSIONATE ABOUT BECAUSE WE NEED TO KEEP THEM IN THE FOREFRONT.
OTHERWISE, THEY DON'T GET TALKED ABOUT.
>> EXACTLY. A GOOD POINT HERE TO MAKE IS ADVOCACY AND THE PASSION FOR ADVOCACY IS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE TO GOOD COMMUNICATION SKILLS, AND THE ABILITY TO ALSO BE CURIOUS ABOUT ANOTHER'S PERSPECTIVE, SEEK TO UNDERSTAND, AND THEN TOGETHER COME TOWARDS SOLUTIONS THAT WILL WORK FOR MOST.
SOMETIMES WE THINK IT'S ALL OR NOTHING.
PASSION IS A STRENGTH THAT CAN BECOME A DOWNFALL WHEN IT OVERLY CLOUDS OUR VISION TO THE POSSIBILITIES OR THE WILLINGNESS TO BE CURIOUS AND SEEK THE PERSPECTIVES OF OTHERS.
SO THAT WE ONLY THEN SEEK THE OPINIONS AND DATA THAT THEN SUPPORTS OUR PERSPECTIVE.
GREAT LEADERSHIP IS THE WILLINGNESS TO LOOK AT
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ALL THE DATA EVEN IF IT DOESN'T SUPPORT OUR PERSPECTIVE. YES>> YOU ALMOST SAID WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
[LAUGHTER] IN MY LIFE, I'VE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS.
WHAT I REALIZED IS THAT YOU'RE ADVOCATING WORK FOR ONE POINT OF VIEW, IGNORING THE OTHER THINGS, JUST ADVOCATING FOR THAT ONE POINT OF VIEW.
BUT I ALSO REALIZED THAT AS A COUNCIL PERSON, I'M NOT AN ADVOCATE.
I'M SUPPOSED TO LISTEN TO ALL OF THE ADVOCATES ON ALL THE DIFFERENT SIDES, AND THEN RATIONALLY WAY WHAT REALLY MAKES SENSE IN THE END.
BEING AN ADVOCATE AND BEING A COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.
>> I WOULD SAY I AGREE WITH YOU, AND THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS SO CLEAR-CUT AND DRY, FOR EXAMPLE, VICE MAYOR MENTIONED THAT HE FEELS HIS PURPOSE ON THE COUNCIL IS TO ADVOCATE FOR THE GENERAL CONCEPT OF CARBON NEUTRALITY AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE OVERALL.
HE CAN STILL BE THE VOICE OR THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT PERSPECTIVE WHILE STILL BEING WILLING TO HEAR THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE FACILITIES, YOU SAY AS LONG AS YOU'RE WILLING TO PAY A MILLION DOLLARS FOR DRIVERS' TRUCKS, WE CAN DO THAT.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
>> BUT IN GENERAL, I WOULD SAY I AGREE.
WE CAN GET INTO TROUBLE WHEN WE SIT ON A COUNCIL AND WE SEE OUR VIEW IS ONLY TO ADVOCATE FOR ONE LANE AND WE FORGET TO THEN LISTEN TO ALL THE PERSPECTIVES IN THE ROOM.
I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SAY MINIMUM WAGE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.
>> I GOT ADVOCATED FOR THE CITY STATE COUNCIL, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
BUT I ALSO [INAUDIBLE] PERSONALLY, I DO IT THROUGH THE FILTER OF TRYING TO BE RATIONAL AND NOT JUST TAKE ONE VIEWPOINT, BUT I TRY TO THINK IT THROUGH AND THEN ADVOCATE.
>> RIGHT. WHICH GETS TO A LOT OF THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, WHICH YOU ARE, WHAT ARE THE QUALITIES OF GREAT LEADERSHIP, AND JUDGMENT, AND DISCERNMENT, AND THE WILLINGNESS TO COLLECT ALL THE PERSPECTIVES AS PART OF THAT SO THAT WE DON'T JUMP TO A DECISION BECAUSE WE'RE PASSIONATE RIGHT OFF THE BAT, THAT WE HAVE THAT IN CONJUNCTION? HERE IS A LITTLE SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE, PICK UP A PICTURE TOO, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. THOSE ARE NOTES FROM LAST TIME
>> JUST ADD SOMETHING THERE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE WORKED REALLY HARD ON AND I DON'T ALWAYS ACHIEVE WHAT I WANT TO WITH IT, BUT SOMETHING THAT I'VE HAD TO WORK REALLY HARD ON IS CALMING DOWN ENOUGH WHEN I'M REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT SOMETHING TO REALLY HEAR SOMEBODY ELSE WHO HAS A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW.
THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN I'VE BEEN SO PASSIONATE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IMMEDIATELY AS THEY'RE TALKING, I'M ALREADY PLANNING MY OFFENSE FOR MY POINT OF VIEW AND I STILL HAVE TO WORK AT THAT TO CALM DOWN AND ALLOW THAT PERSON TO SPEAK THEIR MIND.
>> WITH EVERYONE IN THE ROOM WHO IS IN A SITUATION EVER WHERE THEY HAVE TO CALM THEMSELVES AND NOT JUST RESPOND WITH THEIR OPINION IN ORDER TO HEAR SOMEONE ELSE, IF THAT'S EVER A SITUATION FOR YOU, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. [LAUGHTER] MAYOR, YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
[LAUGHTER] I WILL SAY IT EVEN IS TRIGGERED THE MORE SOMEONE ELSE'S EQUALLY AS PASSIONATE AND ALMOST DEFENSIVE IN THEIR STANCE.
WHAT THEN OPENS UP A GREAT CONVERSATION? QUESTIONS. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
THE POWER OF QUESTIONS, THE POWER OF CURIOSITY. YES.
>> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TO BOTH SIDES GOT TO BE OPEN.
I WAS CERTAINLY GRAND CANYON WORKING GROUP WHICH WAS NEGOTIATING A COMPROMISE ON AIR TOURS.
AIR TOURS INDUSTRY WOULD NOT COMPROMISE, THE WHOLE THING WAS A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME.
>> MAYBE. I WOULD SAY YES, IF THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE STUCK, THERE ARE STRATEGIES TO HELP MOVE FROM THAT POSITION.
>> WE ARE SHOOTING AT A FACILITY.
THIS IS MY JOB. THIS IS WHAT I'M BROUGHT IN FOR A LONG TIME.
I WAS IN THE FACILITATION OF DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ALL IN THE SAME ROOM.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GUN LAWS.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ABORTION.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE FUN TOPICS.
THE BEAUTY OF FACILITATING THIS ENVIRONMENT IS THAT IT STARTED OUT WITH HOW DO YOU THINK THE OTHER GROUP SEES YOU? IT WAS A LOT OF THE ASSUMPTIONS BEING MADE.
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HOW DO YOU WISH THEY SAW YOU? I DON'T HATE CHILDREN, I JUST WOULD LIKE THE RIGHT TO OWN A GUN.THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONSERVATIVE PERSPECTIVES.
THEY WERE JUST CLARIFYING HOW THEY FEEL THEY'RE SEEN AND HOW THEY WISH THEY WERE SEEN.
THEN THEY TALKED ABOUT THEIR TOPICS ON THINGS.
YOU'LL NEVER BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED FROM THERE.
ONCE THEY ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THEIR POSITIONING ON THESE TOPICS, AND THEN WE GOT TO SHARE WITH EACH OTHER, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU START HEARING COMMENTS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE ROOM SAYING, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOU HAD SO MUCH OPENNESS TO FLEXIBILITY IN THIS AREA.
OR THE DEMOCRAT WOULD SAY SOMETHING, I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE AWAY EVERYONE'S GUNS.
I WOULD JUST LIKE US TO REINFORCE THE EXISTING LAWS.
THERE WERE JUST A WHOLE LOT MORE HOW WE DO THIS AND NEGOTIATE OPPORTUNITIES ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO SEE EACH OTHER DIFFERENTLY.
ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO REMOVE THE STORIES WE'RE TELLING OURSELVES AS VICTIM, VILLAIN, OR HOPELESS.
IT'S ABOUT IN THOSE SITUATIONS, YES, HAVING A FACILITATOR, BUT ALSO ABOUT KNOWING HOW TO REDIRECT THE FOCUS.
IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU HAVE SOMETHING CALLED THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE.
HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS BEFORE? I'M GOING TO APPLY IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
IN THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE, WHAT IS OUT OF YOUR CONTROL IS ON THAT LEFT COLUMN.
OUT OF YOUR CONTROL IS OTHER PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS, EMOTIONS, AND BEHAVIOR.
YOU CAN'T CONTROL THE PASSION OF WHICH A COMMUNITY MEMBER MIGHT COME UP AND TALK ABOUT A TOPIC.
BUT ON THE RIGHT COLUMN IS HOW YOU TURN TO FEEL WHEN YOU'RE FOCUSED ON THE THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF YOUR CONTROL, OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS, BEHAVIORS, AND EMOTIONS.
WHICH IS WHAT ANGRY, FRUSTRATED, HOPELESS, AND DISEMPOWERED? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE FEEL OUT OF CONTROL BECAUSE WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE PIECES WE CAN CONTROL?
>> WHAT DID HE GET CONTROL [OVERLAPPING]
WE EITHER TRY TO GET CONTROL BY ADVOCATING FOR OUR OPINION AND CONVINCING OR WE CHECK OUT.
BECAUSE IT'S HOPELESS. WE DO ONE OF THOSE TWO THINGS.
THEN THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE IS REALLY AROUND THE THOUGHTS, EMOTIONS, AND BEHAVIORS OF OTHERS THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO INFLUENCE WITH SOME EMPATHY, PERSPECTIVE TAKING, CURIOSITY, AND QUESTIONS.
WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT SPHERE, THEN IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT MORE YOU'RE IN A CURIOUS STATE.
YOU'RE HOPEFUL, MAYBE PATIENTS, EVEN ACCEPTING, EVEN WHEN THEY MIGHT DISAGREE.
FEELS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT REALM.
THEN THERE'S THE AREA OF CONTROL.
>> YOUR THOUGHTS, YOUR EMOTIONS, YOUR ASSUMPTIONS, YOUR BEHAVIOR.
ONCE YOU ACTUALLY FOCUS THERE, THEN IT FEELS MORE EMPOWERING CLARITY, CONFIDENT.
YOU'RE CLEAR ON THE CONTENT OF WHAT'S IN THE MIND.
PART OF IT IS HELPING PEOPLE REFOCUS INSTEAD OF STAYING STUCK ON WHERE WE'RE OUT OF CONTROL.
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE EVER HAD A GROUP OF EMPLOYEES STUCK ON A CHANGE THAT HAPPENED IN THEIR DEPARTMENT AND EVERYONE GETS STUCK ON THE PARTS THEY CAN'T CONTROL? RAISE YOUR HAND. [LAUGHTER] YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE ANGRY, FRUSTRATED, HOPELESS, AND DISEMPOWERED YOU AS A LEADER WOULD NEED TO REFOCUS THEM.
WHERE DO WE HAVE INFLUENCE HERE? HOW CAN WE INFLUENCE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF WHATEVER OR THE COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO'S TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING? ONE WAY IS TO GET CURIOUS, TO BE PATIENT, TO BE ACCEPTING, TO ASK QUESTIONS.
THEN TO USE COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE THE LAVA METHOD, TO LISTEN AND ACKNOWLEDGE AND SEEK TO UNDERSTAND, TO VALIDATE HOW THEY FEEL, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO FEEL THE WAY THEY'RE FEELING AND ASK GREAT QUESTIONS.
GUESS WHAT THAT DOES. WHAT DOES IT DO?
IT HELPS THEM FEEL HEARD, AND GUESS WHAT IT DOESN'T RETURN? IT MAKES THEM MORE OPEN TO HEARING YOU.
THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR A SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP OR MERIT.
THIS IS A GOOD THING TO USE WITH TEENAGE CHILDREN.
THIS IS A GOOD THING TO USE WITH A PASSIONATE COMMUNITY MEMBER.
IT'S A GOOD THING TO USE AS FRUSTRATED EMPLOYEES, I'M TELLING YOU, YOU CAN USE THIS CONCEPT EVERYWHERE.
IT'S THE POWER OF RECOGNIZING WHERE SOMEONE'S AT.
THE CLUE IS HOW THEY'RE FEELING AND HOW YOU'RE FEELING. HERE'S THE CAVEAT.
YOUR GOAL IS TO NOT AVOID GETTING IN THE OUTSIDE CIRCLE. BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? YOU'RE A HUMAN BEING, THE ENTIRE SOCIETY IS REINFORCING YOUR THINKING THERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. JUST LET THAT PART GO.
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YOU ARE GOING TO. THE QUESTION IS HOW LONG YOU ALLOW YOURSELF TO STAY THERE? IF YOU NOTICED SOMEBODY ELSE ON THE COUNCIL OR A COMMUNITY MEMBER OR STAFF MEMBER OR WHATEVER SHOWING SIGNS THAT THEY MIGHT BE STUCK THERE, WHAT CAN YOU DO?>> CALL A RECESS. [LAUGHTER] YES, MAYOR.
THAT'S A GOOD TACTIC, AND IT'S GETTING CURIOUS, ASKING QUESTIONS, USING THE LAVA METHOD.
LET THEM FEEL VALIDATED IN HER, AND THEN OPEN UP THE DOOR FOR SOME OPTIONS.
WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NEGOTIATION LAST TIME. ANYBODY REMEMBER? WHICH WAS BRIEF, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH NEGOTIATION.
YOU NOW HAVE NOTES IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU CAN CHEAT OFF OF.
>> FIND WHERE THERE'S AN AGREEMENT.
>> FIND WHERE YOU MIGHT AGREE.
I'M HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ABOUT GUN LAWS.
I STARTED THE CONVERSATION WITH, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ALL AGREE.
WE ALL CARE ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN IN SCHOOLS. WE ALL DO.
WE ALL WANT TO SEE A SOLUTION FOR WE CAN ALL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE PEACE IN MIND ABOUT OUR CHILDREN IN OUR SCHOOL SETTINGS.
LET'S START FROM HERE, AND THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP BECAUSE YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.
NOW, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OR OPINIONS ON THE HAT.
NO MORE HEADLINES, ONE LINERS, OVER-SIMPLIFICATION, VICE MAYOR OF A CONCEPT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY MORE NUANCES THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED.
WHAT'S ANOTHER PART OF NEGOTIATION?
>> MAKING SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE THINKING.
BUT IT'S NOT JUST LIKE, WELL I THINK THAT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUT OF OUR LIVES WHEN IT COMES TO THIS.
LET'S JUST SAY THAT'S A PERSPECTIVE.
AS SOON AS YOU HEAR ABOUT STRONG THING, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU SAY, OKAY, AND THEN YOU BACK AWAY, BECAUSE THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO, IS THERE ANY ROOM FOR DISCUSSION HERE?
>> YOU'RE STILL MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHERE THAT PERSON IS COMING FROM.
>> EXACTLY. IT'S SO EASY TO JUDGE, AND I'M USING JUDGE NOT AS IN MAKING GOOD JUDGMENTS, BUT AS IN JUDGING OTHERS BASED ON ASSUMPTIONS.
IT'S EASY TO GET THERE, AND MAN DOES THE MEDIA JUST WANT YOU TO.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO BRING THAT UP.
AGAIN, BACK WHEN I LIVED IN CALIFORNIA, I WAS ON AN ASSISTANT BY A TRADE COUNCIL AGAIN, I WORKED IN OXNARD WHERE ALL THE GANGS, THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE FROM.
THE MEDIA, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENED, EVEN IF SOMEBODY WAS BORN IN OXNARD, BUT THEY'VE LIVED IN SANTA BARBARA FOR 20 YEARS.
AN OXNARD MAN DID THIS CRIME, OR THE CRIME HAPPENED IN OXNARD, BUT IT WAS A SANTA BARBARA PERSON THAT DID THE CRIME.
THE HEADLINE WAS ALWAYS OXNARD THIS, WHICH BUILT THIS PERCEPTION THAT OXNARD WAS THE EVIL PLACE TO BE, AND STAY.
WE WERE TRYING TO REBUILD AN IMAGE IN A NEW STEP AND IT WAS REALLY CHALLENGING.
WE WORKED WITH MEDIA TO ASK THEM TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BALANCED.
BUT NOW YOU SEE TODAY THEY CONTROL OUR EMOTIONS.
I DON'T EVEN WATCH THE NEWS ANYMORE, AND READ A LOT OF THE PAPER, BECAUSE I GET SO EMOTIONAL ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE PRESENTED INSTEAD OF JUST THE FACTS.
>> WHY ARE THEY DOING THAT? WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO INCITE AN EMOTION? WHAT DOES IT LEAD TO?
>> BUILDS OUR INTEREST IN WHAT THEY PRODUCE.
>> RIGHT, AND THE STRONGER I FEEL ABOUT IT, THE MORE RIGHT I AM.
YOU WANT TO READ A GREAT BOOK, THE RIGHTEOUS MIND BY JONATHAN HAIDT, LOVE THAT BOOK, GREAT BOOK.
TALKS ABOUT WHY GOOD PEOPLE ARE DIVIDED ON RELIGION AND POLITICS.
I LOVE THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, BECAUSE THE NARRATIVE DOESN'T JUST COME FROM THE MEDIA WE ARE CONSTANTLY CREATING OUR OWN STORIES, AND NARRATIVE ALL THE TIME AND THE SIGN OF A GREAT LEADER IS TO CONSTANTLY QUESTION THAT.
TO CONSTANTLY STEP BACK INTO CURIOSITY, YOU'LL GET THERE, GO AHEAD, JUST GO THERE.
[LAUGHTER] THEN THE MOMENT YOU RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU'VE NOW STEPPED INTO POSSIBILITY OF MORE CURIOSITY.
WHAT ELSE IS UNDERNEATH HERE? BECAUSE I'M IN A ROOM WITH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, AND THEY ALL FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT ABORTION, AND GUNS, AND THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
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THEN THE MORE WE ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT, "WELL, TELL ME MORE ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS." WE UNCOVERED THAT THERE IS MAYBE SOME MISPERCEPTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE OTHER GROUP REALLY ACTUALLY WANTED, AND THEN THAT'S WHY THEY WERE FEELING SO DEFENSIVE.THEN WHEN THEY BOTH GOT CURIOUS, THEY ACTUALLY EASILY CAME TO, WELL IT WOULD BE COOL IF WE DID THIS.
WE STARTED SOLVING SOME OF THE NATION'S BIGGEST ISSUES IN A ROOM FULL OF 25 PEOPLE, JUST BEING ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WHERE THERE'S NEGOTIATION, AND CURIOSITY, ASKING QUESTIONS, AND SEEKING TO UNDERSTAND.
NOW THAT SOUNDS SIMPLE WHEN I SAY IT LIKE THAT, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT WORKING AGAINST US THAT WAY.
THERE'S A LOT WORKING AGAINST US.
THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE IS A TOOL TO HELP REMIND YOURSELF HOW TO REFOCUS, AND HOW TO MAYBE REFOCUS OTHERS AROUND YOU JUST BY SIMPLY GETTING CURIOUS, AND ASKING QUESTIONS.
SO THAT YOU CAN NOT ONLY SEEK TO UNDERSTAND, AND IDENTIFY WHERE YOU AGREE, BUT TO ALSO IDENTIFY THE LAST COMPONENT OF NEGOTIATION WHERE THERE MIGHT BE ROOM FOR COMPROMISE.
BECAUSE YOU'RE IN A TRICKY PLACE ON A COUNCIL, AREN'T YOU? THERE'S NO THIS STRONG HIERARCHY LIKE THE REST OF OUR SOCIETY.
YES, YOUR JOB COUNCILOR MCCARTHY IS TO LISTEN TO ALL THE PERSPECTIVES, BUT ALSO YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE SOME CONSTITUENTS WHO WANT YOU TO ADVOCATE FOR CERTAIN THINGS.
VICE MAYOR, MAYBE THAT IS ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENT.
>> IN THE END YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
>> BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET TO NOT VOTE CITY MANAGER CLIFTON.
IN THE END YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION, AND IT HAS TO BE ONE THAT'S BALANCED WITH TRYING TO HOLD SPACE FOR THE THINGS YOUR CONSTITUENTS WANT YOU TO BRING FORWARD, THE PERSPECTIVES, AND DATA IN FRONT OF YOU, AND SEEKING TO UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVES THAT ARE IN THE EXACT OPPOSITION TO THAT.
THEN MAKING A DECISION THAT YOU WILL FEEL WILL BE BEST OVERALL, WHICH IS GOING TO ENTAIL SOME COMPROMISE.
THAT IS THE PIECES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.
BEFORE I KEEP GOING, I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR EMOTIONAL TRIGGERS.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HAVING AN EMOTIONAL REACTION.
WE TALKED ABOUT PASSION BUT IT ALSO CAN JUST BE ANGER, FRUSTRATION, WHATEVER.
OUR EMOTIONS CAN CLOUD THAT ABILITY TO TAKE IN THE PERSPECTIVES, AND TO THINK RATIONALLY. TAKE A SECOND.
GET A PIECE OF PAPER AND A PEN, YOU TOO COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE, AND LIST DOWN FOR A MOMENT, NOBODY HAS TO LOOK AT THIS LIST, SO JUST BE HONEST, LIST SOME OF YOUR TRIGGERS, YOUR PET PEEVES, AND BEHAVIORS THAT DISAPPOINT YOU, GIVE YOU ANXIETY OR JUST DRIVE YOU CRAZY. WRITE THEM DOWN.
TRY NOT TO JUDGE IT, JUST WRITE IT, LET IT FLOW.
IT CAN BE LITTLE, IT CAN BE BIG, JUST GET IT OUT.
I'LL GIVE YOU 30 MORE SECONDS.
JUST TO GIVE THIS CONCEPT A LITTLE CONTEXT, I'M GOING TO SHARE A STORY.
ONE OF MY BIGGEST PET PEEVES IS COMPLAINING, WHICH IS WHY I'M NOT ON COUNCIL.
[LAUGHTER] BEFORE I SHARE THIS STORY, IF MY 17-YEAR-OLD SON LISTENS TO THIS, I LOVE YOU SO MUCH HONEY THIS WAS A GREAT LEARNING MOMENT FOR ME.
BECAUSE HE STUDIES GOVERNMENTS, SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT LISTEN TO THESE MEETINGS.
WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS, THERE WAS A TIME WHERE MY OLDER SON, HE COMES TO ME, AND HE JUST STARTS COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW TERRIBLE HIS LIFE IS.
I HAVE THIS, AND THIS, AND I HAVE ALL THESE RESPONSIBILITIES, AND I HAD TO DO THIS, AND THIS.
IMMEDIATELY WHEN I HEAR COMPLAINING, I GET FRUSTRATED.
THE STORY BEHIND IT I THINK IS,
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MY GOD, YOU HAVE IT SO MUCH BETTER OFF THAN I DID.HOW ARE YOU SITTING IN FRONT OF ME COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS? I'M IN THE SHOWER WASHING MY HAIR AND GOING, MY GOD, YOU'RE SO UNGRATEFUL WHAT A BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, AND THEN I PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AND I REMEMBER MY 16-YEAR-OLD SELF.
MOM, IT'S NOT FAIR THAT A BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
NOW THAT I'M AN ADULT, I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH MY PARENTS, THAT MY DAD WAS HOMELESS AT 13, AND WENT TO THE MILITARY TO GET A ROOF OVER HIS HEAD, AND THE THINGS THAT MY MOM WENT THROUGH.
I HAD IT WAY BETTER THAN MY PARENTS AND I WAS LIKE, I GET IT.
EACH GENERATION IS SUPPOSED TO MAYBE GET A LITTLE BETTER, AND THAT'S A NATURAL PART OF LIFE, AND THEY DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER, AND THAT'S FINE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GROW, AND SEE THE WORLD, AND EXPAND, AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME.
I THINK THAT WAS THE MOMENT I BECAME AN ADULT, BECAUSE I WAS 35.
KNOWING YOUR PET PEEVES MATTERS, WHY? BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE AN EMOTIONAL REACTION TO IT.
NOT FEELING HURT IS A HUGE ONE FOR SOME PEOPLE.
ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE AN OLDER WOMAN WHO WAS RAISED IN A FAMILY WHERE YOU'RE NOT SPEAK UNLESS YOU'RE SPOKEN TO, AND YOU'RE NOT TO GIVE AN OPINION, AND NOT TO DISAGREE WITH THE MAN IN THE HOUSE, AND [NOISE] I'VE COACHED A FEW WOMEN IN THAT BOAT.
IT DEPENDS, BUT WHATEVER YOUR PET PEEVE IS, IT MATTERS, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES THERE'S AN EMOTIONAL REACTION TIED TO IT.
PEOPLE OFTEN ASSUME THAT IT'S THE BEHAVIOR, AND THEN THE REACTION, OR THE CONSEQUENCE.
THIS ACTION HAPPENS, AND THEN THIS CONSEQUENCE HAPPENS.
THERE'S SOMETHING IN-BETWEEN. ANYBODY KNOW WHAT IT IS? YOUR BELIEF ABOUT IT.
WHAT WE CALL THAT IS A PLUS B EQUALS C. YOU CAN WRITE THAT DOWN.
THE ACTION PLUS YOUR BELIEF EQUALS THE CONSEQUENCE.
IT'S NOT A EQUALS C. AS FAR AS A PET PEEVE IS CONCERNED, IN MY EXAMPLE, A IS THE COMPLAINING OF SOMEONE ELSE, B IS THE BELIEF THAT THEY HAVE IT BETTER THAN I DID SO HOW DARE THEY COMPLAIN, AND C IS MY ANGER.
WHAT IS YOUR A PLUS B EQUALS C? THINK ABOUT THAT LIST OF PET PEEVES AND FIND ONE THAT YOU MIGHT COME ACROSS WHILE SITTING ON COUNCIL.
IDENTIFY THE BELIEF THAT MIGHT BE RELATED TO THAT EMOTIONAL REACTION YOU HAVE. JUST TAKE A MOMENT.
TO GIVE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT, I'LL JUST SHARE ANOTHER QUICK STORY.
THIS IS DIFFERENT, BUT IT CAN BE FROM FOREVER AGO.
IT CAN BE FROM SOMETHING THAT MAKES NO SENSE.
EARLY ON IN MY MARRIAGE, I NOTICED THAT I WORKED A SCHEDULE.
I WORKED LIKE 7:00-3:00, HE WORKED LATER.
WHEN HE CAME HOME FROM WORK, I FOUND MYSELF ANXIOUS EVERY DAY HE CAME HOME FROM WORK.
I LOVE MY HUSBAND AND I STILL DO TO THIS DAY.
LIKE WHY AM I SO ANXIOUS EVERY TIME THE MAN COMES HOME FROM WORK? I COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT.
I JUST RECOGNIZED THAT IT WAS THERE.
I'M LIKE, THIS IS THE ACTION HE COMES HOME.
THE CONSEQUENCE IS, I'M ANXIOUS.
WHAT IS THE BELIEF IN THE MIDDLE, I COULD NOT JUST SIT THERE AND THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL EVENTUALLY I WAS LIKE IN THE MOMENT, I'M LIKE HERE HE COMES, WHAT'S THE THOUGHT? I DON'T HAVE DINNER READY.
OH MY GOD. I'M UPSET BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE DINNER READY WHEN MY HUSBAND CAME HOME.
I JUST WORKED A FULL DAY TOO, I'M HELPING HIM WITH HIS SCIENCE FAIR, HIM WITH HIS MATH HOMEWORK.
I DID NOT MAKE DINNER AND FRANKLY, I'M NEVER GOOD AT COOKING.
[LAUGHTER] I'M FEELING ANXIOUS.
WHY? BECAUSE I WATCHED LEAVE IT TO BEAVER WHEN I WAS A KID.
[LAUGHTER] I WAS SOLD A NARRATIVE THAT BECAUSE I WAS HOME BEFORE HIM, I WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE DINNER READY. I FIGURED IT OUT.
I GO TO HIM AND I SAY, HONEY, I REALIZE EVERY TIME YOU COME HOME, I'M ANXIOUS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE DINNER READY.
HIS RESPONSE WAS, THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
[LAUGHTER] HE'S ACTUALLY A GREAT COOK.
HE WAS LIKE, ''DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT, I WILL COOK WHEN I GET HOME.
I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO HAVE DINNER READY AND THE FACT THAT YOU'RE HELPING OUR SONS WITH THEIR HOMEWORK IS NOT A SKILL I HAVE BECAUSE I WOULD JUST GET FRUSTRATED AND YELL AT
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THEM AND YOU SEEM THEY WALK AWAY HAPPY ABOUT THEIR MATH HOMEWORK.I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT MAGIC, BUT YOU JUST KEEP DOING THAT.
I'LL COOK DINNER. ALL OF A SUDDEN A DAILY STRESSOR WAS REMOVED.
NOW, DOES THAT GOING TO BE TRUE FOR ALL THINGS? NO. BUT THE MORE YOU CAN IDENTIFY THE PET PEEVE AND THE BELIEVE IN BETWEEN, THE MORE YOU CAN EVEN LOOK TO SEE IF ALL THOSE CONSEQUENCES ARE EVEN NECESSARY.
SOME OF THEM MIGHT JUST BE THERE BUT IF THE SOONER YOU CAN RECOGNIZE IT, YOU'VE ALREADY STEPPED INTO CURIOSITY.
OH, WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S THAT ABOUT? WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU'RE ABLE TO STEP OUTSIDE OF THEIR EMOTIONAL RESPONSE AND GET CURIOUS AND START ASKING QUESTIONS. YES.
>> WHAT THIS TAG DOES A LITTLE BIT IS MY PET PEEVE IS PSYCHOLOGICAL ILLNESS.
THERE'S A NAME, THEY GAVE IT A NAME, SO BASIC TREATS [INAUDIBLE]
>> I ALMOST KILLED MY SISTER AT 10 YEARS OLD [INAUDIBLE] TO CARE IT.
MY HUSBAND, I STARED AT HIM WONDERING HOW COULD HE BE SO LOUD? ARE YOU DOING THIS ON PURPOSE? WE HAD TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN MARRIAGE COUNSELING.
WE'RE STILL NEWLYWEDS. I CAN'T GET OVER THAT.
>> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS UP.
>> I CAN'T GET OVER IT, BUT I RECOGNIZE IT AND I DEAL WITH IT.
THE OTHER MORNING HE CAME IN BECAUSE I LIKE QUIET AND HE HAD A PROTEIN DRINK AND HE GOES, NOW, I'M GOING TO GO IN THE OTHER ROOM TO DRINK YOUR TEA..
>> YOU CAN MITIGATE IT. [LAUGHTER]
>> BECAUSE NOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, I SAID I'M TRYING NOT TO BE BITCHY, BUT IT REALLY IS AN ISSUE FOR ME.
WE LOOKED IN DEPTH AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A WORD FOR IT.
I KNOW THAT I HAD IT SINCE I WAS A CHILD YET MY SISTER ALMOST DIDN'T FIT FOR IT.
>> [LAUGHTER] BUT NOW I RECOGNIZE IT AND I WANT TO HAVE A HAPPY MARRIAGE AND I LOVE MY HUSBAND SO I JUST FELT-
>> EXACTLY. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS WHAT YOU'RE POINTING TO, SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T ALWAYS REMOVE IT LIKE MY EXAMPLE WHERE MY HUSBAND NOW COOKS ALL THE MEALS MEALS.
BUT YOU CAN MITIGATE IT SOMETIMES AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T, BUT LET'S GET THERE IN A SECOND.
BUT KNOWING THAT I HATE STANDING IN THE BANK AT LINE BECAUSE MY BELIEF IS EVERY MOMENT WASTED IS A DOLLAR WASTED OR WHATEVER THAT SOMEONE MIGHT BELIEVE.
THEN YOU START DOING ONLINE BANKING ON THE APP, ON YOUR PHONE AND THEN IT SOLVES THE PROBLEM.
MAYBE YOU CAN, AND MAYBE YOU'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE IN A ROOM AND YOU'RE IN A COUNCIL MEETING, AND YOU CAN'T JUST WALK AWAY.
JUST THE AWARENESS OF IT, THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRIGGERS AND THE EMOTIONAL OUTCOME ALLOWS YOU TO OBSERVE THE SITUATION.
AS SOON AS YOU CAN STEP INTO THE OBSERVER MODE, THEN YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET CURIOUS AND ASK QUESTIONS OR EVEN JUST TAKE A DEEP BREATH.
BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING THERE IS THE ABILITY TO RECOGNIZE AND OBSERVE IT.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU HAVE MORE POWER.
SOON AS YOU CAN OBSERVE IT INSTEAD OF BE IN IT, TO OBSERVE ANGER INSTEAD OF BE ANGER.
ONE OF THE LAST THINGS I WANTED TO TOUCH ON TO, AND THEN I WANTED TO OPEN UP FOR ANY SITUATIONS AND COMMENTS IS WHEN IT COMES TO TRUST.
WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT TRUST IS MADE UP OF AND GOES OPPOSITES OR WILL DIMINISH TRUST POTENTIALLY.
HOW DO YOU REBUILD TRUST? NOT JUST BY DOING THOSE THINGS, BUT WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN TRUST IS ALREADY DIMINISHED? WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE STARTING TO NOT TRUST SOMEONE AND IT'S HARD TO EVEN START EARNING THOSE MARBLES BACK IN THE JAR? THOUGHTS?
>> EXACTLY, ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT YOU DID.
THIS COMES TO, I THINK, IN A CENTRAL LEADERSHIP QUALITY THAT NO ONE LIKES TO TALK ABOUT, WHICH IS FALLIBILITY.
ANYBODY KNOW WHAT FALLIBILITY MEANS? IT'S THIS CONCEPT OF BEING WILLING TO OWN AND ADMIT YOUR MISTAKE IN PUBLIC. GOT IT? THERE WAS THIS OLD LEADERSHIP LIKE BELIEF OUT THERE.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE HAS ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS.
JUST THAT SHE NAMED WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS HAS.
IT COULD BE ANY SOUND LIKE SNORING, BUT JUST SAYING.
>> I KNOW IT. [LAUGHTER] SHE ALSO SAYS
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THAT SHE'S CONVINCED THAT ANYONE WHO SAYS THEY DON'T HAVE SOME DEGREE OF THAT IS LYING.>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER [INAUDIBLE].
>> [INAUDIBLE] MY HUSBAND I'LL SEND ME DOWN.
WE'RE GOING INTO REHAB. [LAUGHTER]
>> BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE HARD TO MITIGATE.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT FALLIBILITY A LITTLE BIT AND I'LL RELATE IT TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TOO.
I LOVE YOU MY YOUNGER SON WESTERN.
MY YOUNGER SON [LAUGHTER] HAS ADHD. WE OWN IT.
WE TALK ABOUT IT OPENLY AND HE HAS A PRETTY SEVERE CASE.
PEOPLE THINK IT'S JUST LIKE, OH, I HAVE A HARD TIME FOCUSING IN CLASS.
IT'S ACTUALLY, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT AND THEY CAN BE PRETTY INTENSE FOR A FAMILY.
BECAUSE OF THAT, HE HAS A LOT OF IMPULSIVITY REGULATION ISSUES.
WE EVEN CHOSE TO USE SOME MEDICATION TO HELP.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, INTERRUPTING IS REALLY A CHALLENGE FOR HIM, AND ONE OF MY OTHER PET PEEVES IS NOT BEING HEARD.
I CAN'T JUST GET HIM TO BE BETTER AT IT.
FIRST OF ALL, MAYBE WHEN HE'S 40 AND ALL THAT EXECUTIVE FUNCTIONINGS UP THERE AND HE HAS ALL THAT EXPERIENCE AND FEEDBACK FROM EVERYONE AROUND HIM, MAYBE HE'LL BE BETTER AT NOT INTERRUPTING EVEN WITH HIS ADHD.
BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
KNOWING THAT THAT'S A TRIGGER FOR ME, I JUST HAVE TO STEP INTO, THIS ISN'T ABOUT ME, THIS IS HIM AND ME AND OUR PREFERENCES COLLIDING AND I'M GOING TO STAY OPEN AND CURIOUS AND GENTLY WITH EMPATHY REMIND HIM SWEETIE, PLEASE TRY NOT TO INTERRUPT.
CAN YOU HOLD ONTO THAT THOUGHT? NO, I'M NOT GOING TO REMEMBER.
WHY DON'T WE END UP HAVING TO COME UP WITH STRATEGIES AND HELPING HIM HOW TO REMEMBER SOMETHING AND WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO BE DONE SPEAKING.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO LISTEN TO UNDERSTAND, BUT WE'LL GET THERE SOMEDAY.
BUT THE FALLIBILITY OF IT IS THE WILLINGNESS TO ADMIT THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A CHALLENGE OR THAT YOU MADE A MISTAKE.
FOR HIM, HE USED TO BE SO DEFENSIVE.
I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU, YOU INTERRUPTED ME.
IT'S THIS CREATING THIS CULTURE WHERE IT'S OKAY.
THERE USED TO BE THIS LEADERSHIP PHILOSOPHY WHERE IT'S NOT OKAY TO ADMIT A MISTAKE BECAUSE THAT MAKES YOU LOOK WEAK, UNINFORMED, DISORGANIZED, WHATEVER.
WE KNOW THE LANDSCAPE HAS CHANGED.
WE KNOW THAT WHEN A LEADER CAN SAY, WE VOTED ON X, WE SAW THE OUTCOME, WE LEARNED THIS FROM IT, AND MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO ALTER OUR PIVOT IN THESE WAYS.
NOW, ARE THERE GOING TO BE SOME PEOPLE WHO CALL YOU A FOOT POPPER? YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE.
BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO THE MAJORITY OF US.
RESEARCH SUGGESTS THAT A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE LIKE TO HEAR HOW WE'VE LEARNED FROM OUR EXPERIENCES AND WE MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE THAT EXPLAINED.
NOW, [NOISE] I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LEVEL BECAUSE IT GETS MORE COMPLICATED THERE.
BUT [NOISE] HERE IN THIS SETTING, I THINK IT'S VERY DOABLE.
FALLIBILITY IS SOMETHING WHERE WE MIRROR THAT OR MODEL THAT TO EVERYONE THAT WE CAN SPEAK WITH.
BY ACKNOWLEDGING OUR MISTAKES, WE OPEN UP THE DOOR FOR MORE CONVERSATION. YES, MA'AM.
>> I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WHEN YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND APOLOGIZE THAT YOU ARE SINCERE AND NOT JUST SAYING IT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT FLACK FOR MAKING THAT MISTAKE OR SAYING THAT THE THING OR WHATEVER.
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW, IF YOU HONESTLY RECOGNIZE WHAT THE ERROR WAS.
>> YES. [NOISE] I WOULD TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
NOW, YOU'RE FREE TO DISAGREE WITH ME AND YOU'RE IN THE HOT SEAT, NOT ME.
TELL ME, WHAT DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT THIS CONCEPT? [NOISE]
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>> I MADE UP THIS QUOTED THOMAS, PARTNER PROBABLY [OVERLAPPING].
>> NO I SHOULD KISS FOR THIS MAT. [LAUGHTER]
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>> AUTHENTICITY IS THE CURRENCY OF THE FUTURE.
>> AUTHENTICITY IS THE CURRENCY OF THE FUTURE AND THEN YOU DO QUITE A LOT..
>> WHAT ELSE? MAKING YOU THINK.
>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING. THAT'S GREAT. YES, COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE]
>> THE REMINDER THAT IT'S OKAY TO MAKE MISTAKES [INAUDIBLE]
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>> I LOVE THAT TOO. WE STILL HAVE TIME FOR LUNCH, RIGHT? DO WE HAVE LUNCH? LUNCH HAS ARRIVED, IT IS SET UP AND READY.
>> SARAH AND DORIS BOTH HELPED US OUT
>> WHOSE BUDGET DID THIS COME OUT OF?
>> DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND BREAK FOR LUNCH THEN AND COME BACK?
>> IS THAT ENOUGH TIME FOR EVERYBODY? THAT'S 20 MINUTES. I'M GOING TO GIVE [INAUDIBLE]
>> WELCOME BACK. HOPE EVERYONE'S FEELING GOOD AFTER THEIR LUNCH.
NICE AND, ENERGIZED BETTER THAN SLEEPISH.
LOOKS LIKE FIRST, WE HAVE OUR PRESENTATION ON RESOURCE NEEDS AND IT LOOKS LIKE OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS ON HIS WAY.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S WELCOME THE CHIEF
>> WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.OH, SORRY OVER THERE, RIGHT?
>> TODAY I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
YOU'LL SEE ME ONCE FOR THE CARE UNIT AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CARE UNIT.
THEN, THE SECOND THING YOU'LL HAVE TO ENDURE IS ME TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NAH AND SO WE'LL DO THAT SHORTLY AFTER THIS.
CARE UNIT, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
THE CARE UNIT IS A PROGRAM THAT WAS CONCEIVED QUITE SOME TIME AGO WHEN I CAME TO WORK IN FLAGSTAFF, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS ASKED TO DO IS BEGIN TO LOOK FOR AN ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE.
WE WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF GENERATIONS OF THAT.
THEN WE FINALLY FIGURED OUT WE WERE TAKING THE WRONG TOOLS TO THESE TYPES OF CALLS IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE'RE DEALING WITH UNSHELTERED IN TYPICALLY INTOXICATED.
WE PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM, GOT A LITTLE OUTSIDE ASSISTANCE FROM SOME BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FOLKS AND WE REALIZED WE NEEDED TO SEND A FIREFIGHTER EMT AND SOMEONE THAT HAS THE SKILL SETS OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.
WE WERE ABLE TO PIECE TOGETHER THE CARE AND TODAY, I'VE GOT SOME GUESTS WITH ME.
BRIAN BEST IS HERE IN THE ROOM SOMEWHERE.
BRIAN IS THE DIRECTOR NORTHERN ARIZONA MATERIALS OPERATIONS, THEY'RE OUR PARTNER.
THEN, BRIAN STEEN HAS CAST THE CARE UNIT WITH SOME FIREFIGHTERS EVERY DAY, BLS FIREFIGHTERS NET PROGRAM IS BEING MANAGED.
WE PULLED ONE OF OUR FIRE CAPTAINS, PARAMEDIC FIRE CAPTAIN, MIKE FELT.
MIKE, WOULD YOU STAND UP AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHO YOU ARE? MIKE'S BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB.
WE LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY AND I WILL TELL YOU THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE MADE, AND GREG IS GOING TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS WE MADE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE THOUGHT WERE IN PLACE.
WHAT WE'VE FOUND IS PERHAPS THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO DEPLOY RESOURCES AND SO WE'RE CERTAINLY LEARNING MORE AND MORE ABOUT THAT.
AS YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE HERE, YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT BUDGET COMPONENTS LOOK LIKE AND I WOULD TELL YOU THAT WE ARE GETTING READY TO COME TO YOU WITH A FIRSTHAND REPORT.
LEE WE'RE ON FEBRUARY 28TH, YOU'LL SEE US TO TALK ABOUT SOME MORE.
WE HAVE GREAT NEWS, MEANING THE DATA THAT WE'RE COLLECTING AND THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE MAKING WITH THIS UNIT IS EVIDENT, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BEGIN TO COME IN AND TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
WITH RESPECT TO THE GENESIS OF THIS,
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AS WE BEGAN TO PURSUE THE CURRENT MODEL, WE ACTUALLY WERE TRYING TO PUT TWO PIECES OF BOOKS.RESPONSE UNIT, WE WOULD RESPOND IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN A COMPONENT WHICH WAS A FACILITY-BASED LOCATION WHERE WE COULD DIRECT THESE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO AND PROVIDE THEM WITH FURTHER SERVICES.
THAT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL IN THE SOLICITATION TO A PARTNER, WE WERE UNSUCCESSFUL.
A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDING HAD BEEN SET ASIDE TO PURSUE THAT.
GREG IS GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT, WE SEGUE INTO THAT DOWNGRADE.
BUT I WAS TO TELL YOU THE DATA THAT WE HAVE FROM MARCH 21ST, 2021 WHEN WE STARTED THE PROGRAM, AND THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE MAKING IN THE ABILITY TO KEEP THAT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, OUT OF HOSPITALS AND OUT OF JAIL, HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU'RE FREEING UP FIREFIGHTERS TO GO TO EMERGENCY WHERE THEIR SKILL SETS ARE MORE VALUABLE, AND WE'RE KEEPING POLICE OFFICERS OUT ON THE STREET TOO.
WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE IMPACT THAT FAR LOOK FORWARD TO SHOWING YOU THE DATA FROM THAT.
>> QUESTION LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S HELPED KEEP OUR CITIZENS OUT OF THE HOSPITALS AND JAIL.
HOW DO YOU KEEP THEM OUT OF THE HOSPITAL THERE?
>> GREAT QUESTION. OUR DEPARTMENT TYPICALLY RESPONDS TO EMERGENCIES WITH PARAMEDIC-LEVEL SERVICE.
MIKE PHILLIPS, CAPTAIN PHILLIPS BACK THERE WHEN HE OPERATES AS A PARAMEDIC, HE'S GIVEN GUIDELINES AND DIRECTIVES THAT DO NOT ALLOW HIM TO DO ANYTHING EXCEPT RELIEVE SOMEONE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO EMERGENCY OR TAKE THEM TO THE HOSPITAL.
>> HE HAS A VERY NARROW LANE THAT HE HAS TO OPERATE IN UNDER HIS LICENSE.
NOW, WE HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THIS TYPE OF STAFFING MAKEUP OF BLS OR EMT FIREFIGHTER, AND A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SPECIALIST.
>> WE BRING THESE GENTLEMEN UP AND INTRODUCE THEM A LITTLE MORE FORMALLY AND THEN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEMSELVES.
THERE'S A PRESENTATION COMING YOUR WAY AT THE DATAS.
BUT THIS IS SUCH A FASCINATING PROGRAM ENDED AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE HAVING BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND EVERYTHING TODAY THAT WE CAN JUST BREAK FROM SCRIPT FOR JUST A BIT AND HAVE THESE GENTLEMEN TELL YOU ABOUT WHO THEY ARE, AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THIS GREAT PROGRAM.
>> HELLO, EVERYBODY. HOW ARE YOU? MY NAME IS MIKE FELTZ.
I'M A PARAMEDIC CAPTAIN FOR SAPPHIRE FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I'VE BEEN WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NOW FOR 17 YEARS, AND THEN SEVEN ON TOP OF THAT, WORKING FOR GUARDIAN MEDICAL TRANSPORT, SO REALLY KNOW THAT EMS SYSTEM, THE FIRE SYSTEM HERE IN TOWN.
I GOT ASKED TO IMPLEMENT THE CARE PROGRAM SO WE STEPPED UP AND BRIAN AND I PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST MODEL, AND WE LAUNCHED THIS UNIT THAT HAS JUST BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY SUCCESSFUL.
WE'VE HAD AMAZING IMPACTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO JUST LIKE WE HAD HOPED.
LIKE [INAUDIBLE] SAID EARLIER, IT'S BEEN A REALLY EVOLVING AND TYPE OF UNIT.
WE LEARN NEW THINGS EVERY DAY, BUT IN THE DYNAMIC APPROACH OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE ABLE TO ADAPT AND MAKE CHANGE TO EVEN MAKE THE UNIT MORE AND MORE SUCCESSFUL AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS BRIAN.
>> I'M BRIAN BEST. I'M THE DIRECTOR AT NORTHERN ARIZONA CRISIS SERVICES FOR TARIFFS HELP.
WE'RE NON-PROFIT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ORGANIZATION THAT OPERATES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
BUT WE'VE BEEN IN FLAGSTAFF FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS DOING COMMUNITY-BASED MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCY CRISIS RESPONSE.
WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY CAME UP TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF ON THIS PROJECT, WE WERE EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND THOUGHT WE WERE A GOOD FIT FOR IT SO IT'S BEEN AN AWESOME PROGRAM SO FAR.
JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT ME, I HAVE LIVED IN FLAGSTAFF FOR OVER 20 YEARS, IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IN FLAGSTAFF FOR TEN YEARS.
THEN WORKED IN THE CRISIS WORLD FOR EIGHT YEARS, SO QUITE A BIT OF FAMILIARITY WITH THAT AREA AND WITH THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SYSTEM AND HOW IT ALL WORKS.
THEN LEARNING MORE AND MORE ABOUT HOW THAT ALL OVERLAPS WITH PUBLIC HEALTH AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND THEN ALL OF THOSE.
>> THANK YOU, GUYS. WE'VE TALKED
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ABOUT SO MANY COOL PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.THIS ONE MAY TOP THE LIST IN TERMS OF VERY INNOVATIVE PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN BORN OF THE COMMUNITY.
AFTER A LOT OF COMMUNITY DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THAT DISCUSSION STARTED REALLY SEEING SOME TRACTION.
THEN, WITH THE OPPORTUNITY WITH SOME FUNDING, PROGRAM CAME INTO EXISTENCE.
IT'S A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP AND I'M GOING TO STILL THUNDER.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING THE PRESENTATION ON THE 28TH OF FEBRUARY.
WE'RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
BUT WANTED TO JUST TAKE A MINUTE AND HAVE THESE GUYS INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND THE APPETITE FOR THE DISCUSSION THAT'S COMING TO YOU ON THE 28TH.
UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THEM, WE'RE GOING TO SEGUE INTO ANOTHER ELEMENT OF THIS, BUT WANTED TO BRING THEM UP AND HAVE A LITTLE FACE TIME WITH YOU.
>> I MIGHT LEAN ON SCOTT OVER TEN WHO I SEE IS SCOTT, PLEASE COME JOIN US.
A LITTLE BACKDROP, WHEN ALL THIS DISCUSSION WAS HAPPENING, THERE WAS A SIZABLE ALLOCATION THAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL PUT IT INTO THE BUDGET.
BY THE WAY, THIS WAS A GREAT COLLABORATION WITH MANY ORGANIZATIONS.
PART OF THE ALLOCATION THAT WAS PUT INTO THE BUDGET WAS INTENDED TO ULTIMATELY HELP FUND SOME FACILITY.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, A FACILITY THAT WOULD SERVE PERHAPS AS A RECEPTION FACILITY.
THE BRICKS-AND-MORTAR PART OF THIS PROGRAM, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS VERY MOBILE.
THERE WAS A VEHICLE, IT'S GOT THAT VERY COOL LOGO ON IT.
THE BUILDING PART OF IT GENERATED A LOT OF VERY GOOD DISCUSSION, VERY THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION.
THE OUTCOME AND I'M OVERSIMPLIFYING, BUT THE OUTCOME AFTER MANY DISCUSSIONS AND FORUMS ON THIS WAS TO PUT IT ON HOLD FOR A BIT.
WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER THINGS TO ADDRESS.
THIS ONE FOUND ITS WAY TO THE BACK BURNER, BUT THE ALLOCATION IS STILL THERE, AND THAT ALLOCATION SPECIFICALLY IS 2.4 MILLION DOLLARS.
AGAIN, OVERSIMPLIFYING, BUT I THINK THE TAKEAWAY IN ALL OF THIS WAS THERE WAS A GENUINE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER BUILDING A BUILDING OR RENTING A BUILDING, OR DOING SOMETHING, BUT WHETHER A PHYSICAL BUILDING WAS ACTUALLY NEEDED TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL.
WE WERE HEARING CLEARLY FROM SOME OF OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS, NON-PROFITS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE THESE SERVICES IN PLACE.
WE CAN MARRY THE PROGRAM WITH THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE AND WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THIS.
CITY, YOU DON'T NEED TO ENTER INTO THIS ARENA.
IT BRINGS US TO THE PRESENT DAY, AND THIS ALLOCATION, WHICH NOW REMAINS IN THE BUDGET, AND THE QUESTION OF WHAT TO DO WITH THAT.
I THINK THE TIME IS AT HAND TO CONSIDER A REALLOCATION.
WHEN I SPEAK FOR THE COUNCIL, THIS IS A DISCUSSION WE'RE FRAMING FOR YOU TO HAVE.
BUT I THINK THE TIME IS RIGHT FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
THE MONEY RIGHT NOW IS UNENCUMBERED.
INITIALLY, IT WAS PART OF THE FEDERAL FUNDING THAT CAME THROUGH TO THE CITY, AND THE FINANCE TEAM PUT PART OF THAT FUNDING THAT CAME IN WAS TARGETED FOR REIMBURSEMENT WITHIN OUR GENERAL FUND OF EXPENDITURES THAT OCCURRED DURING COVID.
THAT HAS OCCURRED, AND SO RIGHT NOW, THIS IS REIMBURSEMENT MONEY AND IT COULD BE UTILIZED AS WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY WITH GENERAL FUND FOR ANYTHING BASICALLY.
WE HAVE AN IDEA THAT WE'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU AND GET YOU THINKING ABOUT IT.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED OUTCOMES TODAY, BUT WE MIGHT BE NEEDING AN OUTCOME SOON AND YOU COULD WAIT UNTIL YOU IF YOU'D LIKE.
BUT IT'S EXCITING, AND I THINK THERE IS A NEXUS BETWEEN WHAT THE IDEA WE'D LIKE TO SHARE, AND WHAT THIS MONEY WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR. YES.
>> I'VE BEEN AT IT JUST FOR A WHILE, SO MAYBE IT'S HAPPENED.
YOU SAID THAT NON-PROFITS AND OTHER AGENCIES HAD A BRIDGE THAT GAP.
I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS RUNNING THE SHELTER OUR GAP BACK THEN WAS A WET ROAD.
WE COULDN'T RECEIVE PEOPLE THAT WERE SO INTOXICATED THAT THEY LOOKED CLOSELY AT RISK TO THEIR OWN HEALTH,
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AND SO THEY WERE HAVING TO BE SHIPPED TO THE HOSPITAL, WHICH THEN HOSPITAL WAS COMPLAINING.IT WAS TAKING UP A LOT OF BED SPACES THAT SO IT HAS THAT BEEN A DO WE HAVE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TECHNICAL TERM IS TODAY, BUT A WET ROOM WHERE SOMEONE CAN GO, AND RECOVER FROM THEIR INTOXICATION.
>> DID YOU WANT TO FEEL THAT? I CAN'T YES.
>> YES. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRANSPORT DIRECTLY TO THE GUIDANCE CENTER.
WE HEAVILY RELY ON THE GUIDANCE CENTER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT DETOX TYPE OF ABILITY.
THE OTHER PORTION OF IT TOO, THAT WE PROVIDE SERVICES AS WELL IS WE DO A WHAT WE CALL A WARM TRANSFER TO THE FLIGHTSTATS SHELTER SERVICES.
WE HINGE ON THEM VERY HIGHLY IN THE PROGRAM FOR A PLACE TO TAKE INDIVIDUALS, AND THEN THEY HAVE SOCIAL WORKERS THAT ARE THERE THAT WE CAN SPECIFY SOME OF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN TAKE AN INDIVIDUAL THROUGH A DETOX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEN THEY WORKED DIRECTLY WITH THE GUIDANCE CENTER AS WELL, AND IF WE CAN PROVIDE RESOURCES.
>> I REMEMBER THAT WHEN I WAS WORKING AT THE SHELTER, BUT IT WAS THAT ALL MARCHING, AND PEOPLE THAT THEY FEAR THAT IF THEY FELL ASLEEP, OTHERS ACT SUPER SMALL INTOXICATED.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MEDICAL RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE SAFE AND SO WE HAD TO SEND THEM TO THE HOSPITAL AT THAT POINT.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING YOU GUYS HAVE A WORKAROUND, TAKE THEM TO THE GUIDANCE CENTER, AND OF COURSE, IF THEY CAN IF THEY'RE SAFE ENOUGH TO GO TO THE SHELTER SERVICES, THEN THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THAT PLACE, BUT THERE WAS THAT GAP BACK THEN THAT WE HAD A CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BUILDING A WET ROOM WITH THE SHELTER AND HOSPITAL.
>> YEAH. THAT'S WHY WE STAFF IT WITH A FIREFIGHTER EMT IS TO BE ABLE TO PICK THAT MEDICAL CALLS.
IF THEY'RE SAFE ENOUGH TO PROVIDE THE SUPPORT TO GO TO ONE OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE CAN TAKE ON TOO, IF THEY CAN JUMP OVER THAT WHERE WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S A FEAR IN THAT THEY'RE UNSAFE, BUT THERE IS A MEDICAL PROBLEM IN THE TRANSPORT DIRECTLY UP AT FMC.
FMC NOW HAS THE ANNEX WHICH IS LIKE A COMPLETELY SEPARATE AREA FROM THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT OR THAT BASIC MEANING.
>> MIGHT JUST KEEP JUMP HERE IF YOU DON'T MIND.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER.
AGAIN, THE QUESTION IS, IS IT TIME TO THINK ABOUT A REALLOCATION OF THAT PROGRAM? YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT IT ON THE 28TH IS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
A YEAR AGO, THIS TIME IT WAS IN ITS INFANCY.
NOW IT'S GOT THE BENEFIT OF HINDSIGHT, AND WE CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR HOW IT'S GOING.
>> [NOISE] 2.4 MILLION THAT IS AN UNENCUMBERED AMOUNT IN THE GENERAL FUND.
THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE THOSE DOLLARS UTILIZED IN A WAY THAT CAN BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND THE NEXUS THAT I MADE REFERENCE TO IS PERHAPS PROVIDING A SERVICE IN AN AREA OF THE COMMUNITY THAT COULD USE THE SERVICE.
MAYBE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD BEEN UNDERSERVED THROUGH OUR HISTORY, AND WHERE THE NEEDS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT ELEVATED OVER WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD I'M SPEAKING OF IN PARTICULAR IS SUNNYSIDE, AND THE PROPERTY I'M SPEAKING OF IS THE OLD FIRE STATION TUBE, WHICH IS THE MONTELLO FACILITY, WHICH RIGHT NOW THE FIRE STATION STANDS VACANT, AND IT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR SOME TIME.
WE LOOKED AT THAT BUILDING VERY CAREFULLY TO SEE WHAT POSSIBILITIES WOULD EXIST TO REPURPOSE IT THAT COULD BENEFIT THE SUNNYSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
BUT THIS IS SITUATED RIGHT IN THE HEART OF SUNNYSIDE.
WE LOOKED AT IT, AND THE BUILDING IS NOT IN A GOOD STATE OF REPAIR, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE HAD SUSTAINABILITY TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUILDING, AND CONCLUDED THAT IT'S NOT VERY SALVAGEABLE.
IF THERE WOULD BE MORE OF A CARBON FOOTPRINT, IF YOU WILL, IN TRYING TO RENOVATE IT, THEN THERE WOULD BE JUST TO SCRAPE IT AND BUILD SOMETHING ELSE.
IT'S NEXT TO A PARK, IT'S NEXT TO ANOTHER FACILITY.
IT WAS EASILY ACCESSED BY PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE, AND IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A PARKING LOT AS WELL.
THE THOUGHT STARTED A WHILE AGO TO SEE SOMETHING COME UP THAT SITE THAT COULD REALLY BE BENEFICIAL AGAIN TO THE SUNNYSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IN PARTICULAR, BUT TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
THE IDEA WAS STEM EDUCATION THAT WOULD BE TAILORED TO YOUTH OF ALL AGES,
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ALL THE WAY FROM TODDLER TO HIGH SCHOOL.THAT REALLY GOT SOME TRACTION WITH THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL.
THEY SAID YOU HAVEN'T SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA, RUN WITH IT.
IN FACT, IN THE SAME FEDERAL FUNDING THAT CAME THROUGH, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE RPA FUNDING OF RICK TIGHTER.
YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THAT.
A SMALLER ALLOCATION WAS MADE TOWARD THIS VERY PURPOSE, $350,000.
NOW, $350,000 IS JUST TO START, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW BUILDING.
THE SITE IS VERY SUITABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT, UTILITY ACCESS.
ALL THE TAPS ARE IN PARKING IS THERE, BUT NEVERTHELESS, THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE EXPENSE WITH THE REBUILT.
WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SCOTT COME UP, AND SHARE WITH YOU.
SCOTT HAS BEEN OVERSEEN THIS PROJECT WHICH I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR YOU, COULD YOU TALK TO ALL OF US ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT LED TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WHICH ARE RENDERING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE?
>> SURE. OUT OF THE PUBLIC WORDS, FACILITIES, PROJECT MANAGEMENT, RECOGNIZE THE CHARGE TO GO TAKE SOME FUNDS AND TALK THROUGH WITH OUR PROS PARTNERS.
WE HAVE SOME AT THE TIME COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY VIA PROGRAMMING, THEY HAVE SENSED TAKING THEIR OPERATION TOWARDS SOLAR HOMES.
WE WORKED WITH SARAH'S TEAM TO FIND THEM ON A SPOT, MAYBE TEMPORARILY, MAYBE LONG TERM, REALLY UNDECIDED.
BUT THEN WHEN THE RPA FUNDS CAME ALONG WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO USE SOME OF THAT FUNDING TO REVISUALIZE THIS SITE.
I THINK I WAS MAYBE ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THAT SAID, HEY, 350 IS NOT GOING TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING.
IT'S GOING TO GET US A LITTLE BIT INTO IT.
BUT TODAY WE SPENT ABOUT $15,000 IN DESIGN, AND WE'VE COME CLOSER, BUT THE IMPORTANT ELEMENT THAT I GOT TO WORK ON IN THE LAST YEAR WAS WE ISSUED THE DESIGN CONTRACT WITH LOVE AND CONTRACTING, AND WE BROUGHT OUR DESIGN CONSULTANTS ON BOARD TO START TALKING THROUGH.
IT'S REALLY BEEN A VERY SMALL GROUP, AND WE'VE TAKEN THEM SOME LOCAL ARCHITECTURE PIECES, AND THE MISSION OF STEM, AND THE GOALS, AND DIRECTIVES OF WHAT WAS THE LAST COUNCIL ANNOUNCED YOUR COUNCIL, AND WE SAID WE THINK THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IT.
WE HAD SOME COMMUNITY VALUES THAT WE NEEDED TO RECOGNIZE.
THERE'S A LARGE MURAL ON THE BUILDING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SALVAGE, AND CONTRIBUTE TO A PIECE OF THE FUTURE BUILDING.
WE HAVE SOME RESTROOM CONCERNS WITH THE ADJACENT BALL FIELDS, AND SO WE DID COME UP WITH A RENDERING, AND THAT'S WHAT GREG HAD ASKED ME TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH IT.
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, I WANT TO CAVEAT THIS WITH THIS IS REALLY NOT PUBLIC IN TERMS OF WE'RE SENDING IT OUT.
WE'RE SHOWING IT, WE WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
THE FINAL PACKAGE OF RENDERING IS ACTUALLY DONE NEXT WEEK, AND WE'LL HAVE A MUCH BIGGER PICTURE OF ALL THE VIEWS, BUT IT'S A GOOD PERCEPTION AND A GOOD VIEW OF WHAT WE PROPOSE FOR THIS SITE.
WE'LL SHOW IT ON THE SCREEN HERE.
>> I'LL JUST BRIEFLY SPEAK TO IT AND IT'LL GIVE IT BACK TO YOU MR. CLIFTON.
YOU CAN SEE THE LEFT SIDE OF THE IMAGE, THIS IS THE FORMER AND FIRE STATION TWO ON SPRUCE.
THE BALL FIELDS WOULD BE TO YOUR LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.
WE'RE LOOKING FROM SPRUCE TOWARDS THE PEAKS.
THEY WOULD BE IN THE BACKGROUND AT THIS POINT, YOU CAN SEE THE MURAL ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN THERE'S SOME LARGE LIKE BROWN LINES THAT COME THROUGH THE BUILDING.
THOSE ARE STEEL AND STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS THAT WE'VE INCORPORATED BACK TO THE NEW PRIMARY BUILDING.
THE IDEA IS A 3,000 SQUARE FOOT MULTI-USE STEM CENTER.
IT'S GOT FOUR LARGE ROOMS SIMILAR TO THIS ROOM.
THEY HAVE WALL DIVIDERS SIMILAR TO THIS ROOM.
THEY CAN MAKE FOUR MID-SIZE ROOMS, OR TWO VERY LARGE ROOMS, COUPLE OFFICES, SOME INTERNAL BATHROOMS FOR THE CENTER.
THERE'S A LITTLE GATHERING VESTIBULE, AND THEN THERE ARE TWO AUXILIARY RESTAURANT BUILDINGS TO ACCOMMODATE USE FROM THE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS OFF TO THE SOUTH.
SO THIS THE CONCEPT RENDERING, I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY AND MOST INTERESTING TO ME ARCHITECTURALLY, IS WE'RE ABLE TO SALVAGE THE MURAL WALL AND UTILIZE THE STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS TO REALLY HOLD THE WALL.
THEN THERE'S A COURTYARD BETWEEN THE NEW BUILDING AND THE EXISTING MURAL WALL.
THANK YOU. AND THAT COURTYARD WOULD BE OPEN SPACE.
BUT THE IDEA MIGHT BE THAT A FUTURE SERVICE PROVIDER OR CITY AGENCY,
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IF WE WERE TO RUN IT, WOULD HAVE ROOM FOR A AN OPPOSING MURAL MAYBE WITH A STEM FOCUS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.SO I THINK THE ARCHITECT KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, IN TERMS OF REVIEW AND THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE FIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE HISTORICAL ELEMENTS WE REALLY WANTED TO INCORPORATE.
WE THINK THAT WAS WHAT YOU WANTED.
WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THE FACULTY WILL MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN AS IT GOES THROUGH ITS PROCESS, IS WELL-RECEIVED.
>> VERY EXCITING STUFF THANK YOU, SCOTT.
SO COUNCIL, YOU HAVE LISTENED TO WHAT THE SCOTT HAS MENTIONED, IT'S NOT READY FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION YET, BUT IT WILL BE SOON.
THIS CAME ABOUT THROUGH A COMPETITIVE PROCESS.
EVERYTHING HAS GONE THROUGH PROCUREMENT AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION INTERNALLY WITH MANY, MANY PEOPLE AND STAFF INVOLVED IN THIS.
IT SERVES SOME IMPORTANT NEEDS STEM EDUCATION, FACILITY FOR OUR YOUTH, REBECCA SEARS, WE HAVE RESTROOMS FOR THE BALLPARKS.
IT'S RIGHT IN THE SUNNYSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING AND IF THIS GOES BACK TO THE RETREAT OF TWO WEEKS AGO.
WE ARE SEEING UNUSED CITY BUILDINGS BEING REPURPOSED TO MEET VERY IMPORTANT COMMUNITY NEEDS.
HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT? IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THESE BUILDINGS ARE SITTING VACANT AND THIS NOW IS ON ITS WAY.
BUT THIS COUNCIL WILL BE HEARING A LOT ABOUT YET ANOTHER FACILITY, THE OLD PUBLIC WORKS YARD, OVER NEAR A BALLPARK ANNEX.
THE RE-PURPOSING OF THAT NOW TOWARD A CULTURAL CENTER, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY EXCITING AND THE CONCEPT PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED.
LOT OF WORK DONE ON THAT BY MANY TALENTED PEOPLE.
THAT ONE'S VERY MUCH ON THE FRONT END.
WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING IN PLACE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YET TO HAPPEN, BUT DIVISION HAS CRYSTALLIZED.
THIS VISION HAS NOW COME BEFORE YOU AND IS SOMETHING THAT COULD ACTUALLY COME INTO EXISTENCE.
I'M GOING TO TIE IT ALL TOGETHER.
THE ALLOCATION, THE REALLOCATION OF THAT FUND, THAT 2.4 MILLION LIKELY COULD ACCOMPLISH THIS.
EVEN ALLOCATION OF MOST OF IT, POSSIBLY WITH SOME PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, SEEM COMMON.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD THROW OUT AS A CONSIDERATION.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE THINK THERE'S A GOOD NEXUS HERE.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
THEN ALL THE PIECES ARE IN PLACE.
>> NO. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE HAS A COMMENT [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE MAYOR WANTED TO READ THAT OUT LOUD FOR PUBLIC.
>> HER ORIGINAL COMMENT WAS WE ALSO LOOKED AT USING THESE FUNDS TO DEVELOP THE EXISTING BUILDING INTO THE CENTER, TALKING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL IDEA OR EVEN PARTNERING WITH THE UNUTILIZED RETAIL SPACE FOR THE PURPOSES OF CARE UNIT.
AND SHE SAID, I'M GENERALLY EXCITED BY THIS PROPOSAL I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THE CULTURAL CENTER MENTIONED.
AND IF IT'S THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL, I AM ON BOARD.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE STEPPING BACK FROM POTENTIALS TO EXPAND PROGRAMMATIC SUPPORTS FOR THE CARE UNIT, WHICH I VERY MUCH WANT TO STAY COMMITTED TO.
AND IF I COULD ADD [OVERLAPPING]
>> I WANTED TO HEAR. WHEN I SERVED ON COUNCIL BEFORE, WAS PART OF THE WHOLE DISCUSSION ABOUT CREATING THE CARE UNIT AND WHETHER TO HAVE A FACILITY.
I WAS NEVER A BIG SUPPORTER OF A FACILITY BECAUSE I FELT LIKE WE HAD NON-PROFIT PARTNERS THAT COULD HELP US WITH THAT PART.
AND I'M WONDERING, AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF DOING A STEM CENTER IN THIS BUILDING IN SUNNYSIDE.
BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN LOOK AT A COMBINATION OF THINGS AND IT DOESN'T ALL NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME FROM THE 2.4 MILLION, BUT EXPANDING THE CARE HOURS OR ADDING ANOTHER UNIT POSSIBLY.
I'M WONDERING ALSO IF WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR TALKING ABOUT WINE ITEMS IN THE BUDGET FOR NON-PROFIT PARTNERS.
I'M THINKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PARTNERS WHO POTENTIALLY RECEIVE PEOPLE THAT YOU ALL HAVE WORKED WITH THROUGH THE CARES UNIT,
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LIKE SOME SHELTER SERVICES, MAYBE THE GUIDANCE CENTER, AND THEN ALSO THE STEM FACILITY.LOVE IT. BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME CONTEXTS THAT THAT $2.4 MILLION FOR A FACILITY WAS NEVER A UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED ITEM.
>> CAN I PIGGY BACK ON THAT DISRUPT AS TERMS OF YOUR RESPONSES? I SHARE A LOT OF YOUR THINKING I MEAN WHAT COMES FROM WHAT THE HOUSES SAID.
IF YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE, I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CARE AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A STEM BUILDING.
>> THE REALLOCATION OF FUNDING THAT HAS BEEN UNENCUMBERED, $2.4 MILLION, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED OR DISCUSSED TO COVER A FACILITY FOR THE CARE PROGRAM.
WE ARE SUGGESTING PUTTING ON THE TABLE, IS IT TIME TO BE THINKING ABOUT REALLOCATING THAT MONEY TO A DIFFERENT UNITS [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS BRICK AND MORTAR CARE? [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S IT.
THAT'S WHERE I WAS GETTING CONFUSED.
>> TAKING THE SAME MONEY, AND USE IT UP FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
>> I'M GENERALLY OPEN TO THAT AS LONG AS WE CAN KEEP OPEN THE LINE ITEM CONVERSATION AS WELL ABOUT SOME OF OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS.
I JUST WANTED TO PIGGY BACK ON THAT REAL FAST TO BROADEN THE CONVERSATION.
>> I JUST WANT TO KNOW. WE ARE FIRST NOW HEARING ABOUT THIS.
I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU HAVE NOT TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS OF SUNNYSIDE? [OVERLAPPING] NO OR YES? [OVERLAPPING]
>>THE RE-PURPOSING OF THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR SOME TIME.
WE HAVEN'T GONE DOOR-TO-DOOR AND HAVE HAD THAT LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT.
BUT THE CONCEPT HAS BEEN PUBLICLY DISCUSSED.
>> THEN I GUESS SPECIFICALLY, HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SUNNYSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION?
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE I WOULD SAY IN CONCEPT WE DISCUSSED THE STEM CENTER IN SUNNYSIDE, MAYOR EVANS AT THE TIME YES.
PRETTY INFLUENTIAL IN THAT CONVERSATION, BUT NO, THEY HAVE NOT SEEN RENDERINGS, WE HAVE NOT SHOWN PROPOSALS YET.
WE TOOK ALL COMMENTS, WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, A MURAL RESERVATION, SOME OF THOSE THINGS INTO ACCOUNT.
BUT YOU WERE THE FIRST TO SEE THE FINAL PICTURE OF WHAT WE THINK WE HAVE.
>> THEN MY SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THIS GOING TO BE A CITY BUILDING AND ARE WE GOING TO OPERATE IT OR IS IT GOING TO BE OPERATED BY SOMEONE ELSE? AND THEN WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE GUIDELINES IN TERMS OF THE USE OF THAT BILL?
>> THANK YOU. CITY-OWNED, THAT WILL STAY IN PLACE.
IT WILL BE LEASED OUT AND SUBJECT TO A COMPETITIVE PROCESS OF SOLICITATION.
WE WILL FIND A PROVIDER, A NON-PROFIT, TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE.
WHICH THE MODELS WE HAVE SEEN, BUT WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE SERVICE WOULD BE TWEAKED TO THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WOULD BE IT.
IT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE MURDOCH CENTER, IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO OUR BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THEATRICALS, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER CITY-OWNED FACILITIES THAT ARE BEING OPERATED BY NON-PROFIT SERVICE PROVIDERS.
>> THE ONLY REASON THAT I ASKED THIS QUESTION IS BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A LIMITED AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE LIFE CELEBRATING EVENTS SPACES IN THE CITY.
I'M WONDERING THAT WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION? WOULD IT BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER GROUPS TO USE OR TO THE COMMUNITY TO USE FOR OTHER KINDS OF EVENTS? I MEAN, I THINK THAT ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
THAT THE COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY HAD COME TO THE OUTCOME THAT A STEM FACILITY FOR YOUTH WOULD BE IDEAL.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS DESIGNED FOR.
FOR HAVING THE OTHER USES INTEGRATED WITH IT, I THINK IS CERTAINLY A WORTHY DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU FOR GREAT QUESTIONS.
>> LET ME SEE IF I GOT THIS STRAIGHT.
WE'VE GOT $2.4 MILLION AND WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH IT.
IN MY MIND, THERE IS THREE THINGS WE COULD DO WITH IT.
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WE COULD USE THAT MONEY TO HELP SOME OF THE PROVIDERS THAT DO HAVE A BRICK-AND-MORTAR PLACE.THEY MIGHT NEED SOME MORE MONEY BE IT THE HOME WAS SHELTERED OR GIVEN PLACE THAT ARE TALKED ABOUT HERE.
OR WE COULD USE IT FOR THE CULTURAL CENTER WHICH REPLACES THE OLD MAINTENANCE YARD.
I GUESS THE SUB-QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MONEY SO WE DO THAT PROJECT? IF WE USE THIS MONEY FOR SOMETHING ELSE?
>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
[OVERLAPPING] THAT THE PLAYER HAS JUST COME INTO EXISTENCE.
THE COUNCIL ENTHUSIASTICALLY SAID YES AND YOU GUYS WEIGHED IN.
>> YES. THERE'S SO MUCH WORK TO DO ON THAT, THAT LIES AHEAD.
>> YOU WOULDN'T RECOMMEND USING THIS MONEY FOR THAT?
>> WERE NOT THERE YET. IN FACT, WE'RE FAR FROM IT.
THERE ARE NEEDS TO BUILD, ALL THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THIS SIDE, LOOKING AT THE BUILDING, EVALUATING THE BUILDING ARE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBILITIES IN TERMS OF ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS AND I THINK WE HAVE NOT STARTED THAT PROCESS ON THE OLD PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.
>> IF WE DON'T USE THE MONEY FOR THE CULTURAL CENTER, WE COULD USE IT AS YOU POINTED OUT, FOR THE STEM CENTER OR WHEREVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT SUNNYSIDE.
BUT IS IT ON THE TABLE TO MAYBE USE SOME OF THAT MONEY TO HELP THESE OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO HAVE BRICK-AND-MORTAR FACILITY THAT PROBABLY NEED FUNDING TO DO OUR CARES PROGRAM?
>> ANYTHING'S ON THE TABLE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OUTCOME TODAY.
THIS WAS JUST AN IDEA THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD FLOAT.
>> I GOT IT RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING]
I'M SORRY, THE RENDERING YOU JUST HAD IS NOT FUNDED.
I DO WANT TO ADD A LOT OF THE CARES AND ARPA FUNDING THAT CAME IN FOUND ITS WAY TO SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS.
IF THE COUNCIL RECALLS, WEEK, THERE WERE A LOT OF APPROPRIATIONS TO SOME SPECIFIC SERVICE PROVIDERS THROUGH OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND THEN A LARGER ALLOCATION TO UNITED WAY FOR DISBURSEMENT AS WELL? YES.
>> TWO THINGS. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE RECIPIENTS AND SO THE CARE WHEREVER THEY TAKE THE INDIVIDUAL.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT ADDING CAPACITY TO SHELTER OR THE GUIDANCE CENTER.
THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY PREPARED FOR.
BUT I JUST ON THE AVAILABLE FUNDING, I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL IDEA AND CONCEPT TO DO SOMETHING IN THAT AREA THAT REALLY NEEDS A CENTER LIKE THIS.
IT WOULD BE JUST A GREAT INVESTMENT IN THAT COMMUNITY.
BUT ALSO I WANTED TO ASK IF IT ACHIEVE POINTING BACK TO WHAT THE MAYOR SAID, IS THERE LINE ITEM NEEDS BECAUSE THE CARE UNIT IS SO SUCCESSFUL, IT'S SO NEEDED.
I'M SURE THERE'S MORE STUFF WE NEED.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT BECAUSE WE NEED TO KEEP BUILDING ON THAT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE FUNDING THAT APPROPRIATELY BECAUSE I'M SURE THERE'S MORE WE CAN DO.
>> APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. YES, THERE ARE LINE ITEM NEEDS IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM MANAGING THE PROGRAM THIS FAR.
THE OTHER THING YOU'LL SEE WHEN WE COME BACK WITH THE DATA OR INDEX DISCUSSION NOW, DO WE NEED THE SECOND UNIT OR DO WE NEED TO EXTEND THE HOURS? WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO LET DATA PUSH US IN A DIRECTION WHERE WE CAN MAKE MOST IMPACT.
POLICE CHIEF HAS ALREADY MADE HIS MIND.
HE WANTS US TO GO 24 HOURS BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT IT'S HAVING ON LAW ENFORCEMENT OR RISK.
WE ALSO WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT PEAK TIMES AND WE'LL BRING A RECOMMENDATION.
YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT WE HAVE FOUND, WE WALKED IN A LITTLE BIT LATE WITH RESPECT TO INTERNAL, THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS, PEOPLE HAVE TO MANAGE THEM.
WE'D LITERALLY PULLED MY GOLF AND TRUCK SO THAT HE COULD HELP US BE SUCCESSFUL.
WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PUT THAT MANAGEMENT LEVEL IN PLACE ON A FULL-TIME ONGOING BASIS FOR THAT PROGRAM AND OTHER COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AS WELL.
WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING YOU WITH INFORMATION.
IT'S GOING TO SET THE STAGE FOR THAT CONVERSATION.
SOME OF THOSE NEEDS ARE ALREADY WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
WE'RE NOT DECIDING THIS TODAY IS PLANNING TO SEEK.
>> WANTED TO GET SOME DIRECTION,
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MAYBE YES, THINK SO.BUT IF WE DO DECIDE TO GO WITH THE SO-CALLED STEM CENTER, WE HAVE TO DECIDE IF IT'S GOING TO BE SIMILAR TO A MURDOCH CENTER.
IT'S A LARGE ROOM AVAILABLE FOR A WHOLE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT EVENTS.
OR IF IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING JUST TO THROW OUT AN EXAMPLE TINKER TOBIA WHERE THEY WOULD PROBABLY TAKE OVER THE ROOM, ISN'T VERY EFFICIENTLY, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER EVENTS.
THAT'S A DECISION WITHOUT THAT, HE MAKES IT.
>> WE DID RECEIVE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO PURSUE STEM RELATED FACILITY.
THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN GOING IN THIS DIRECTION.
>> THAT WOULD BE MORE IN TUNE WITH THEY WOULD GO OVER THE FACILITY, WOULD ONLY BE USED FOR THAT ONE GROUPING, BUT WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR GENERAL MEETINGS, LIKE TO HAVE IT TO PRODUCTION.
>> BUT WE STOPPED SHORT OF SAYING THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE OTHER USES AVAILABLE.
BUT IT WOULD NOT BE AN UNOCCUPIED OPEN ROOM.
IT WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE COMMUNITY CENTER FOR ANYTHING.
IT COULD BE SUBJECT LIKELY TO A LEASE OR A LICENSE AND UTILIZED FOR STEM EDUCATION FOR YOUTH.
>> I'M JUST THROWING THESE THINGS OUT SO THAT PEOPLE COULD THINK ABOUT IT.
>> A TIME OUTSIDE, [INAUDIBLE] HASN'T COME IN TO STICK WITH ONE.
I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOMETHING DONE AND IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK IT'S VERY RELEVANT RENDERING.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATIONS ON EXPANDING THE CARE UNIT AND FIGURING OUT HOW [INAUDIBLE].
>> JUST WANTED TO DO A QUICK TIME CHECK.
WE GOT ABOUT 45 MINUTES, SO THAT'D BE ENOUGH FOR THE NAH DEVELOPMENT OR SERVICE PARTNER CONTRACT DISCUSSION? [LAUGHTER]
>> I THINK WE'RE FINISHED HERE.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR AUDIENCE ON THIS IN READINESS AND PUT OUT A NEW IDEA FIRST, ACTUALLY AN EXISTING IDEA, BUT WE'RE PUTTING A PICTURE TO LOOK RIGHT NOW.
>> WE'VE ANOTHER COMMENT, NUMBER HOUSE THERE [INAUDIBLE].
I APOLOGIZE THAT I CAN'T SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND PLEASE KNOW THAT I WOULD TRY IF I NEED TO.
I REALLY AM JUST WANT TO OVEREMPHASIZE THE NEED TO BUILD OUT THE CARE UNIT.
I WAS SO IMPRESSED BY THE TEAMS I WAS ABLE TO EXPERIENCE DEALING FIRSTHAND WITH.
ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD RESOUNDINGLY FROM THEM WAS THAT THEY CARE AND SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM.
BUT THEY ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY TRAINED FOR YEARS AND DREAMED OF DOING.
IF WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD UP AND BUILD OUT THE CARE UNIT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT DOING SO.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR THIS DISCUSSION.
>> IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT THE CARE PROGRAM IS ON A GOOD JOURNEY AND WE ARE NOT AT ALL FINISHED WITH RESOURCES IN SIENNA GROW. OKAY.
>> TIFFANY AND TOOLS COMING UP TO LEAD A SHORT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NAH DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL AND PROGRESS.
I'LL JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE WORKED WITH PLANNERS AND PLANNING AND ZONING FOLKS WORK DECADES AND DECADES AND TIFFANY, IT'S JUST BEEN A TREMENDOUS WORK WITH BURDENING US AND HELPING GUIDE US THROUGH THE PROCESS. I'LL MAKE REASONABLE.
OVERALL, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE NAH DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ALSO LOVINGLY REFERRED TO AS A HEALTH VILLAGE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
YOU CAN SEE BY THIS TIMELINE THAT WE STARTED MEETING WITH THEM.
THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS, SO EVEN OF COURSE, BEFORE THAT A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING IN 2019.
WE OFFICIALLY RECEIVED AN APPLICATION FROM NAH IN 2021.
WE STARTED WORKING EARLY ON SCOPING OF IMPACT ANALYSIS AND OTHER DETAILS.
HOW THIS WOULD WORK WITH THE REGIONAL PLAN, WHAT CHANGES WE MIGHT NEED TO MAKE TO THE REGIONAL PLAN.
THERE'S JUST A LOT OF WORK THAT EVEN OCCURRED WITH THE NAH STAFF PRIOR TO THIS MIDDLE OF AN APPLICATION.
LIKE I SAID, WE DID RECEIVE THAT APPLICATION IN APRIL OF 2021.
THAT APPLICATION CONSISTED OF MINOR REGIONAL PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH WAS RECENTLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS A SPECIFIC PLAN AND THERE IS A CONCEPT REZONING.
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JUST TO GO OVER THIS PROJECT.LIKE I SAID, THE REGIONAL PLAN HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
TO DATE WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE SPECIFIC PLAN AND THE CONCEPTS REZONING CASE BECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS SO LARGE AND THE HOSPITAL ITSELF IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTOR, WE ENDED UP BREAKING THE ENTITLEMENTS INTO TWO DIFFERENT PHASES.
I WOULD SAY SINCE ABOUT NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WE HAVE PUT ALL OF OUR EFFORT INTO SPECIFICALLY WORKING THROUGH PHASE 1 OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A REZONING OF ABOUT 98 ACRES.
ABOUT 30 OF THOSE ACRES ARE OPEN SPACE, AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THAT IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE HOSPITAL AND THE ACC AND THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES, PARKING GARAGE AND SO FORTH.
OVERALL, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THAT PHASE 1 IS THE HOSPITAL IS ABOUT 751,000 SQUARE FEET WITH ROOM FOR FUTURE EXPANSION.
THE ACC, THE AMBULATORY CARE CENTER IS ABOUT 205,000 SQUARE FEET AND THE PARKING GARAGE IS JUST UNDER 500,000 SQUARE FEET ITSELF.
THAT'S THAT BIG PHASE 1 OF THE PROJECT.
PHASE 2 OF THE PROJECT IS THAT REMAINDER OF THE HEALTH VILLAGE.
JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE THAT PROPOSED FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IS INTENDED TO INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY BIG 273-350 DWELLING UNITS AS PART OF A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, APPROXIMATELY 300,000 SQUARE FEET OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USES COMPRISED OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL, RETAIL AND LODGING.
APPROXIMATELY 250,000 SQUARE FEET OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT USES INCLUDING LATE MANUFACTURING.
THOSE ARE THOSE SURROUNDING USES THAT COME WITH THE HOSPITAL IN ACC.
WITH THAT, IT'S A FAIRLY LARGE DEVELOPMENT, THERE ARE SOME VERY LARGE COSTS ATTRIBUTED TO BOTH THE CITY SERVING THIS PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE COST FOR INFRASTRUCTURE TO THIS SITE.
WHILE WE HAD ORIGINAL ACTIVITY CENTER PLANNED FOR THIS GENERAL LOCATION, IT'S NOT AN AREA WHERE THE CITY ITSELF HAS BEEN FOCUSING TIME AND ENERGY IN TERMS OF PROVIDING RESOURCES.
SO FOR A LARGE PART OF WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND PLANNING IS THE JOHN WESLEY POWELL CORRIDOR.
A LOT OF RESOURCES HAVE GONE TOWARDS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT CORRIDOR.
A LOT OF TIME HASN'T BEEN SPENT LOOKING AT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.
OF COURSE, THE LIKELIHOOD THAT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO EXPAND BEYOND THE HOSPITAL AND EXPAND BEYOND THE HEALTH VILLAGES FAIRLY LIKELY JUST DUE TO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE WITH THIS PROJECT.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.
THERE'S YEARS AND YEARS OF INFORMATION HERE.
THERE'S NOT THE TIME TO GO THROUGH IT WITH YOU ALL TODAY.
BUT I'M HAPPY TO MAKE TIME AVAILABLE TO RUN THROUGH WHAT THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT IS, WHERE WE'VE GONE TO DATE, HOW IT'S EVOLVED OVER TIME.
JUST BRING YOU UP TO SPEED WITH ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES WE'VE BEEN DOING.
POTENTIALLY, WE COULD BE BEFORE YOU WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO HAND OVER TO THE FIRE CHIEF AND THEN THE NEXT STEP WILL BE OUR CITY ENGINEER FALL.
>> AT ISSUE IN THIS PARTICULAR REASONABLY PROPOSAL IS THE IMPACTED SERVICE DELIVERY.
THIS IS AN AREA OF TOWN THAT I'LL DESCRIBE IS OUT ON THE EDGE OF OUR SERVICE DELIVERY SYSTEM.
WE DON'T HAVE THE DISTRIBUTION OF FIRE AND EMS APPARATUS AROUND THAT AND WE HAD NOT ANTICIPATED THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN AND IT WAS NOT ZONED FOR.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ASKED FOR WAS A FIRE SERVICE DELIVERY IMPACT AND OFTENTIMES IN OUR INDUSTRY, A TERM OF ART IS A STANDARDS OF COVER ANALYSIS.
FACETS ON THE SLIDE IS THE NAME OF THE CONSULT THAT COMPLETED THE ANALYSIS.
THEY DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF KEY POINTS.
THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES IN THE AREA WHERE THERE'S FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES WHERE THERE IS ALMOST NONE, AND THEN STAFFING FOR ONE FULL-TIME LADDER TRUCK, FIRE, GROUND SUPPORT SERVICES.
THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT, BUT IS WHAT'S MISSING FROM OUR SYSTEM.
OUR SYSTEM IS MISSING TWO STAFF, LADDER TRUCKS, AND AMBULANCE.
REALLY FOCUSING ON THAT PART OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
FROM A FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY PERSPECTIVE.
REALLY, WHAT'S AT ISSUE IS THE RISK THAT IS IMPOSED BY
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THEIR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS HIGH-RISE, WHICH YES.WHEN YOU SAID THAT WE ARE IN NEED OF TWO LADDER TRUCKS.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THIS ONE FOR THIS AREA IS ONE OF THOSE TWO OR THAT WOULD MAKE THREE?
>> NOT THROW AROUND SOME OF THESE TERMS. LET ME TRY NOT TO BE SO CONFUSING.
WE NEED THE STAFFING FOR A LADDER TRUCK.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES FOR RISKS LIKE THIS, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF STAFFING AND WE CAN ELEVATE TAKE FIREFIGHTERS AND EQUIPMENT UP TO A HIGHER FLOOR, WHETHER IT'S AN EMS CALL, A [INAUDIBLE] CONTENTS FIRE, EVERYTHING GETS HARDER.
THE RISK THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE 142 FOOT PROPOSED TYPES IS SIGNIFICANT.
THEN THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS IT IS INSTITUTIONAL.
MANY OF THE OCCUPANTS OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE UNABLE TO EVACUATE THEMSELVES, IT'S HIGH RISK.
WE JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THAT'S WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS ASKING YOU ALL TO CONSIDER.
THE OTHER THING WE TOOK A LOOK AT, CONFIRM IT UP THESE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW IN OUR EFFORTS, I WAS MANAGEMENT SERVICES, BRANDY AND RICK, AND WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO MONETIZE THOSE IMPACTS THE SERVICES.
THE 2.3 OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE, THAT IS A COST TO OPERATE AND ADD THAT ONE COMPONENT ON.
THAT'S OUR COST TO PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE.
THE OTHER PIECE IS 9.2 MILLION IN CAPITAL INVESTMENT FIRE STATION.
WE HAVE A SMALL FIRE STATION, STATION 6.
IT'S SIT ON BARELY A THREE-QUARTER INCH PSYCH AND I CAN'T.
THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD TRY TO LOCATE A NEW FIRE STATION, REPLACE THAT FIRE STATION SO WE CAN HAVE TWO COMPANIES WORKING.
THOSE ARE THE PURPOSE OF THE CONVERSATION WE ARE HAVING WITH CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND WE'RE WORKING.
I KNOW THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S DESIRE IS TO TRY TO FIND WAYS TO MAKE US SUCCESSFUL IN SUPPORTING THIS DEVELOPMENT IMPACT.
FEES ARE NOT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT, BUT THERE ARE SOME CREATIVE WAYS FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
WE'RE EVALUATING DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION, BREEDING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE SYSTEM AND HELPING US WITH THAT SYSTEM IN PLACE.
THEN CERTAINLY GENERAL FUND COMMITMENTS, THOSE ARE ALL PART OF THE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS.
VERY MUCH WORKING ON STAFF LEVEL NOW TO TRY TO BRING THAT INTO A SET OF MINIMUM TERMS THAT WE WILL NEED TO GO TO DEVELOPER AND ASK FOR ASSISTANCE.
>> IT'S IN THE PROPOSED NEW HOSPITAL.
JUST SO I HAVE SOME PERSPECTIVE.
IS IT HIGHER THAN THE HUB COMPARED TO THE HIKE?
>> MATCH. THEN, DO WE PROVIDE SERVICES, OUTLET WAY BACK TO FOREST ISLANDS OR A SERENDIPITY OR BYLAWS, DO WE PROVIDE ANY SERVICES OUT THERE OR IS THAT OUT OF THE CITY?
>> WE HAVE AUTOMATIC AID WITH THE HIGHLANDS FIRE DISTRICT TO SELL.
WE HAVE GONE OUT THERE AND WE'LL GO OUT THERE.
IT'S RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF WHAT IS CONSIDERED THE CITY.
>> DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT ONE OF THE PROPOSALS WAS TO STATION SIX, IS EVERYONE [OVERLAPPING] TO HAVE A BIGGER FACILITY IN MOVING COMBINED IT OVER TO THE HEALTH CENTER AREA.
>> NO ONE ELSE WHO IS IN THE FACETS ANALYSIS DOESN'T RECOMMEND LOCATING A STATION ON NAH PROPERTY.
I'M TRYING TO DISTRIBUTE AND MAKE GOOD DECISIONS ABOUT ADDING TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE SENSE FOR THE CITY OVERALL LONG HAUL.
IT'S NOT RECOMMENDED REALLY IN THE VICINITY OF THE EXISTING STATION SIX IS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A SITE THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO US.
>> EXACTLY WHERE YOU CAN EXPAND.
>> YEAH, WE JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO PUT MULTIPLE COMPANIES IN PLACE AND WE GAVE IT OUR BEST SHOT, BUT IT WAS JUST NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THE EXISTING SITE BASED ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AND JUST US POSTED STAMP THAT WAS BUILT.
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>> SORRY, I THINK THE HIGHEST BUILDINGS WE HAVE NOW ARE 85 SPEED IN THAT BALLPARK.
IF WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING A BUSINESS LIKE 140 FEET, WHICH IS A LOT BIGGER.
DO YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR ABILITY TO COVER THEIR NEEDS? SHARP, BUT IF THAT WAY THEY SUBMITTED PRIOR OR OTHER OF [LAUGHTER].
>> WHETHER IT IS LABOR-INTENSIVE ON DUTY STAFFING TO MEET A LABOR DEMAND IN A BUILDING OF THAT STATURE REQUIRES ON A DAILY BASIS, ABOUT 80% INCREASE IN STAFFING ON A DAILY BASIS.
IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF FIGHTING FIRE OR RESPONDING TO EMERGENCIES AND BUILDINGS WHERE YOU'VE GOT HOLD EVERYTHING UP.
YOU GOT TO TAKE EVERYTHING WITH YOU.
IT TAKES A LOT MORE TO GET A CUSTOMER OUT OF A BUILDING LIKE THAT, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE NOT AMBULATORY.
WHEN YOU READ THE REPORT, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IN ADDITION TO THE APPARATUS THAT NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE.
IT'S TALKING ABOUT MINIMUM NUMBERS OF STAFF.
YOU NEED TO BE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE AND MEET THE NEED OF EMERGENCY AT A RISK LIKE THAT.
>> FOLLOW UP. THIS QUESTION, MIGHT BE FOR TIFFANY DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE.
THEY BUILT THAT HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
>> THAT WOULD BE A TIFFANY QUESTION.
YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. I THINK SHE SAID BACK IN.
>> TIFFANY, YOU CAN STAY UP THERE BECAUSE MY QUESTION GOES THROUGH WITH YOU.
THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS WHY THE ENTIRE BUILDING ITSELF, WHERE TALKED ABOUT A LARGE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.
ALL COMBINED, YOU'RE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO A MILLION SQUARE FOOTAGE OF BUILDING.
THE BULK OF THE BUILDING IS NOT 140 FEET TALL, SO THAT 140 FEET IS LIMITED TO THE BED TOWER.
IT'S ABOUT BUILDING EFFICIENCY FOR THE HOSPITAL.
I'M NOT HERE REALLY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE HOSPITAL.
I KNOW THEIR RATIONALE AND REASON BUT BECAUSE I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THEM ON THIS.
BUT THE REASON WHAT THE BED TOWER IS ABOUT THE EFFICIENCY IN TERMS OF PROVIDING THE SERVICES TO THEIR CUSTOMERS.
IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH ALSO THE HVAC AND THE LAYOUT OF FLOORS.
THE FLOOR PLATE HEIGHTS OF A HOSPITAL BUILDING, ESPECIALLY PATIENT ROOMS, IS A LOT TALLER THAN A REGULAR BUILDING.
YOU THINK THE FLOOR OR CEILING HEIGHT, THERE ARE A LOT TALLER, OF COURSE.
BOTTOM FLOORS ARE ALSO GENERALLY A LOT TALLER AS WELL.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS INCREMENTALLY ADD TO THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
THEIR SPECIFIC PLAN IS SPECIFICALLY ASKING FOR 160 FEET.
IN REALITY, THAT BUILDING IS 142 FEET.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME INTERESTING WAYS IN WHICH WE MEASURE HEIGHT AS WELL.
WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, DOES IT MAKE SENSE? I THINK OVERALL, THE RISK IS NOT ONLY JUST IN THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, BUT THE RISK IS AFFILIATED WITH THE USE AND THE NUMBER OF PATIENTS BEDROOMS. BUT THERE'S ALSO A VERY LARGE COMMUNITY ASPECT HERE IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING A SITE AND HAVING THE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND.
THAT MEAN, LOOKING AT THE REASONS WHY THEY WANT TO MOVE FROM THEIR EXISTING FACILITY IS BECAUSE THEY'VE ENDED UP IN A LOCATION WHERE THEY CAN'T REALLY GROW.
TO REBUILD WOULD PUT THAT HOSPITAL IN SOME WAYS OUT OF USE OR PORTIONS OF THE HOSPITAL ON ABUSE WHILE YOU TRIED REBUILDING AND RECAPTURE, THEY'VE BEEN BUILDING OUT OF THAT HOSPITAL FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
EVERY TIME I WALK THROUGH IT, I FEEL LIKE IT'S INTERESTING HISTORY HOUSE.
I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT HOSPITALS.
THERE ARE REALLY ONLY INTENDED TO HAVE A LIFESPAN OF 50 YEARS.
THIS TECHNOLOGY IS INTENDED TO CHANGE AND MOVE OVER TIME.
BUT WHAT GRANTED, THERE ARE LOTS OF HISTORIC HOSPITALS AND REUSE OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
BUT WITH ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, IT'S REALLY THE DECISION THAT NAH MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO SERVE THEIR CLIENTELE.
THAT THEY FOUND IT TO BE THE MOST EFFICIENT, THAT IT ALSO GIVES THEM THE BEST ABILITY TO EXPAND IN FUTURE SHOULD THAT BE A NEED? I HOPE THAT.
>> REAL QUICK. ALL THESE ISSUES ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS AND THAT, WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH WILL COME ALONG WITH THE ZONING CHANGE, I PRESUME.
>> SURE. WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE ASPECTS.
THIS IS UNLIKE ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT I'VE EVER WORKED ON.
THIS IS VERY UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT WHERE A CITY IS RELIANT ON ITS HEALTH CARE SERVICES AS WELL.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE PRIMARY FUNCTIONS.
IN FACT, A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, THEY OWN THE HOSPITAL, COUNTIES OWN THEY HOSPITAL,
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THEY OWN AND OPERATE THOSE, THEIR GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS.WE ARE A RURAL COMMUNITY WITH A LEVEL ONE TRAUMA CENTER, IS PRETTY BIG DEAL FOR NORTHERN ARIZONA.
THAT'S A PRETTY IMPORTANT FEATURE TO WORK WITH.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS DEVELOPMENT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, IT IS A COMMUNITY ASSET DIFFERENT THAN OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
BUT YES, WE ARE TRAINED TO WORK OUT SO THAT WE ARE ACHIEVING ANY NAH'S GOAL, BUT ALSO MAINTAINING WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO KEEP OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY CONSISTENT.
>> I HAVE QUESTION AND COUNCIL MEMBER SUITE HAS A QUESTION.
TWO FOR YOU, STAY PLEASE. [LAUGHTER] TO BOTH OF YOU, UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE REGIONAL PLAN AND THE TYPE OF ACTIVITY CENTER THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED THERE, AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO COME TO THE SOUTH TOWARD THE EAST, ARE YOU ABLE TO DISCERN THIS NEW STATION? WHAT PART OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING THERE, AND WHAT, IF ANY, WOULD BE NEEDED UNDER WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE ALREADY PLANNED FOR?
>> I KNOW THE ANSWER OF THIS QUESTION.
>> THE ANSWER THE QUESTION IS THAT THE LAKE MARY FIRE STATION IS INSUFFICIENT BECAUSE IT CAN'T FIT THE LADDER TRUCK.
WE NEED A SPACE TO PUT THE LADDER TRUCK.
IT DOESN'T FIT IN THIS SITE. IT'S TINY.
IT'S THE ONLY TWO-STOREY FIRE STATION THAT WE HAVE, AND SO FACETS IS LOOKING OVERALL AT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
BUT WITHIN THAT GENERAL VICINITY, IS WHERE THAT SIX NEEDS TO STAY AND NEEDS TO BE.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE WERE ALREADY CONTEMPLATING STATION 7.
THOSE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES ARE BUILT OR ARE AIMING TOWARDS WHERE WE NEED TO GO WITH STATION 7, WHICH IS ALONG JOHN WESLEY POWELL.
BUT THE LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'RE LIKELY TO SEE TO THE SOUTH AND THEN TO THE EAST AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THE HOSPITAL IS MORE ALONG THE LINES OF STANDARD LOW-RISE LESS RISK DEVELOPMENT, IF THAT HELPS.
>> UNDER WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE SEEN UNDER THE ORIGINAL PLAN WITHOUT THE HOSPITAL BEING PART OF IT, THE STATION IS ROUGHLY IN THE LOCATION THAT IT WOULD NEED TO BE TO SERVICE THAT DEVELOPMENT.
WELL, WHAT WE'RE MISSING THERE IS THE ROOM TO HAVE A LADDER TRUCK.
>> IT'S INSUFFICIENTLY SIZE LOCATION AT THE SCHOOL GOES IN THE AGE IN JUST SHEER WORST COMPANY ARRIVES ON SCENE JUST IN THAT MODE.
>> I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME FORMULA FOR FIGURING OUT AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WITH ALL OF THIS IS, HOW MUCH NAH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ADDITIONAL EMERGENCY RESPONSE COSTS?
>> CAN I ANSWER THAT QUESTION? AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A TERM OF ART THAN IT IS OF SCIENCE AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE LIMITED TO THE COUNCIL'S CONCERNS ABOUT FIRE PROTECTION.
PALTZ, GETTING READY TO COME UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND OTHER TYPES OF NEEDS.
FIRE PROTECTION IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES.
YES, WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR VERY BEST TO TRY TO MAKE IT SEEM RATION WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THE CITY WILL REQUIRE TO PUT THOSE RESOURCES IN PLACE TO SUPPORT THIS FILMING.
THE END OF THE DAY WITH THE WHOLE PROCESS TO BECOME.
>> SURE. WHEN HE SAYS IT'S MORE OF AN ART THAN A SCIENCE, WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT FIRE IN THIS CASE AND WHAT WE DON'T DO A LOT OF TIMES ON RESOLVING CASES, IT IS THE SPECIFIC PLAN THAT SPECIFICALLY REQUIRE A FIRE TO IMPACT ANALYSIS WITH THIS PROJECT.
BUT THE FACT [NOISE] THAT IT IS A FINDING OF THE REZONING TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THIS PROPERTY WITH THIS SURFACE.
IT'S UNIQUE IN A DIFFERENT SCENARIO, WHERE TRANSPORTATION, I DON'T WANT TO DIVE TOO MUCH INTO THAT IS BASED ON EXCESS PROPORTIONALITY AND AN ASSIGNMENT OF A PROPORTIONAL VALUE OF IMPROVEMENTS.
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THERE'S MORE OF A SCIENCE TO THAT, AND HIS IS DEFINITELY MORE OF THAT. THANK YOU.>> I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN ANSWER THIS TODAY.
I'M WONDERING ON OLD STATION 60, MOVING FORWARD, DO WE HAVE PLANS FOR THAT? WOULDN'T WE SELL IT? CAN THAT BE NEED AN ADDITION TO THE FUNDING?
>> ALL THE OPTIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT MIGHT OCCUR TO THAT STATION, WE'RE JUST CONSIDERING THAT IF WE KEEP THE BUILDING, WE'LL HAVE IT AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT RE-PURPOSING AT THIS LEVEL, [LAUGHTER] AT A TIME THAT IS BENEFICIAL.
IF IT IS A PART OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO FINANCIALLY SOFTEN THE BLOW TO EITHER THE DEVELOPER OR THE CITY, THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE STILL IN PROGRESS.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE MIGHT THE BEST DEPTH PROPERTY IN DETROIT AND REALLOCATED TO WHATEVER MAKES THIS POSSIBLE.
>> I WILL TELL YOU THAT REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT SITE SOUNDS A LITTLE TRICKY.
JUST WHERE IT'S LOCATED, IT'S VERY NESTLED UP AGAINST EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND SO I EXPECT THAT WOULD BE COMMUNITY CONCERN DEPENDING UPON HER.
BECAUSE, IT'S COMMERCIALLY THESE NICE BUILDINGS, SO IT COULD BE INTERESTING.
>> THIS MAY HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, BUT GOING BACK TO THE HUB AND CAUSING, DO WE HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT TO REALLY RESPOND IF THERE WAS A FIRE EVENT IN ONE OF THESE INNER CITY LIMIT HIGH-RISES? ARE WE STILL MAKING HOW TO DRAW?
>> THIS COUNCIL WAS JUST AWARDED THE SECOND REPLACEMENT LADDER TRUSTS FOR US AND IT'S A FUNCTION OF STAFFING THAT THE EQUIPMENT, YES, IF THEY WERE DOING REALLY WELL.
BUT IT'S JUST GETTING THEM TO FIREFIGHTERS, IT TAKES TO DO WORK ON THAT TYPE OF USE.
>> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A VOID OR A DEFICIT TO THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT WE HAVE IN HATCHES? SHE COULD HAVE NOT HANDLED 140 RECOVERED TEETH.
BUT THESE HIGH-RISES, WE HAVE A STAFFING ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO FILL NOW REGARDLESS OF [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S A GREAT POINT. SINCE I GOT HERE IN 2013, THE NUMBER OF MULTIPLE FLOOR, 4, 5, AND 6 PRIVATE STUDENT HOUSING AND ALSO ON CAMPUS HAS BEEN EXPONENTIAL.
THE RISK HAS CHANGED IN THE COMMUNITY.
>> CHIP, I APOLOGIZE IF YOU ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS, BUT I DIDN'T CATCH THE ANSWER.
WHERE WILL THE NEW FIRE STATION BE LOCATED?
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT SITES RIGHT NOW, WESMERE.
WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO THAT.
WE ARE PURSUING THE AVAILABILITY OF MULTIPLE SITES IN THE VICINITY.
>> I FORESEE ISSUES IF THE FIRE STATION WAS RELOCATED TO THE OTHER SIDE, LIKE 17.
>> I'M NOT CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THESE SITES THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE UNDERSIDE.
>> LITERALLY, OUR FIRST WAVE OF PREFERRED LOCATIONS IS ESSENTIALLY WITHIN A QUARTER MILE AND ALL TO THE EAST OF THE INTERSTATE.
>> I JUST WANTED TO GET EVERYONE A TIME CHECK REMINDER.
WE HAVE AT LEAST 25 MINUTES OF PRESENTATIONS WITHOUT QUESTIONS STILL IN THIS SECTION.
I'M JUST ASSUMING THAT IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HOSPITAL, YOU'VE SHARED ALL YOUR CONCERNS WITH THEM ABOUT THIS.
>> ACTUALLY, ALL OF THESE DETAILS TODAY, I MEAN THESE NUMBERS HAVE ACTUALLY NOT BEEN SHARED WITH ANY [INAUDIBLE]
>> WELL, I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE THIS SESSION WITH THEM?
>> ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S THE LAST PART ABOUT CHIP'S SLIDE IS THAT WE ARE REALLY FOCUSING ON WHERE WE GO AND HOW THE COVER THOSE COSTS AND WHAT'S RATIONAL FOR EACH OF US TO CONTRIBUTE.
>> WELL MOODS GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER ELEMENT OF THIS LIST.
>> THERE SHOULD BE IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN.
WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY DURING THE GRANT PORTION OF THE BUDGET PRESENTATION.
WITH NAH IS A VERY LARGE DEVELOPMENT WHICH MEANS SOME VERY LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
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YOU HAVE ALL ROADS ASSOCIATED THAT NEED TO GO IN AND COMING OFF BY 17, LIKE VALLEY ROAD.YOU HAVE WATER SEWER THAT NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED.
TYPICALLY, THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THAT.
WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE DRAFT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, I HAVE SEEN NAH THEY WERE ASSUMING THAT THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT TWO-THIRDS AND THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT ONE-THIRD.
HAVEN'T SEEN ALL THEIR NUMBERS ON THAT, HOW THEY PUT IT TOGETHER YET, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD ORIGINALLY COME UP WITH.
THE CITY'S PORTION OF 35-45 MILLION, POTENTIALLY.
ABOUT A MONTH AGO NAH APPROACHED THE CITY ABOUT APPLYING FOR ARRAYS FEDERAL GRANT WOULD BENEFIT BOTH NAH AND THE CITY IF THAT WERE TO BE AWARDED.
CURRENTLY THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS.
YOU'LL HEAR THE ACRONYM TIA A LOT.
THAT'S THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS OUR ENGINEERING STAFF IS GOING THROUGH THAT.
WE'VE BEEN REVIEWING IT WITH THE NAH JUST CONSULTANT.
WE JUST ONLY RECEIVE THIS WEEK SOME OF THEIR BROADWAY DRAWINGS.
WE'RE TRYING TO MATCH THAT UP WITH THE TIA.
WE ALSO KEEP THE BIG SHIFT IN MIND.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PROPER BIKE PEDESTRIAN TRAILS ARE IN THERE AS WELL, SPOTS FOR TRENDS.
WE'RE STILL ANALYZING ALL OF THAT.
THAT'S JUST A SMALL LIST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY HAD IDENTIFIED ORIGINALLY.
THEY NOTIFIED STAFF THAT THEY WANT TO ADD A FEW MORE IMPROVEMENTS INTO THE GRANT, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE YET, SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT INFORMATION.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CAPACITY YESTERDAY.
YOU SAW SOME OF THE VERY LARGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT THE CITY IS PLANNING TO DO OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
IF YOU ADD ANOTHER 35 TO $40 MILLION WORTH OF CONSTRUCTION ON TOP OF THAT, THAT WOULD REALLY OVERLOAD OUR STAFF.
WHAT WE ARE PUTTING INTO THE GRANT APPLICATION IS FUNDING FOR THE CITY TO HIRE PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS TO HELP MANAGE THE PROJECT.
THERE STILL WOULD BE CITY STAFF OVERSIGHT, BUT THE CONSULTANT WOULD BE DOING THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK.
AGAIN, THE GRANT HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR 100 PERCENT FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH NO MATCH.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION ONLY GRANT.
NAH WOULD PAY FOR THE COMPLETION OF DESIGN THAN IF THE FEDERAL GRANT WOULD KICK IN, AND OUR GRANTS, PEOPLE WOULD HELP.
THEY WOULD GET CONSULTANTS AS WELL TO HELP MANAGE IT.
BUT GETTING THERE WILL BE 100 PERCENT FEDERALLY FUNDED.
QUESTIONS. TRY TO CATCH UP ON SOME FACTOR.
WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT THIS IS THAT WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE TO GET THIS.
>> NOT REALLY MY FORTE AND THE GRANTS, BUT THEY DO HAVE A DRAFT LETTERS TO SEND TO, STATE CONGRESSIONAL LEADERSHIP TO SEND TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
>> ANSWER IS IN THE ROOM. [LAUGHTER]
>> YOU CALLED ME UP, I'LL CALL YOU.
>> ACTUALLY, I THINK THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SHOT.
THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF LOBBYING.
THEIR LOBBYISTS WITHIN NAH IS TALKING WITH OUR LOBBYIST.
THEY ARE FLYING OUT TO DC AND MEETING WITH THE FEDERAL AGENCIES.
JUST LOOKING AT MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, JUST READING THE NARRATIVE, LOOKING AT THE GRANT, THE CONSULTANT, THIS PREPARING IT ON BEHALF OF ANY AGE.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE PRETTY GOOD SHOT.
PAUL AND I HAVE TALKED QUITE A BIT.
WE'RE LIKE WORK GARY ENOUGH THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET IT IN JUNE AND BE READY TO GO.
I CAN'T TELL YOU, IT'S UNDER CITY OF BICEP AS AN APPLICANT.
BUT AGAIN, REMEMBER I SAID WE HAD A GOLD STAR.
THAT'S PRETTY GOOD CHANCE. WHAT DO YOU THINK? GREAT.
>> WELL, I'M GOING TO INVITE YOU TO ELABORATE IF YOU'RE ABLE TO.
WE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL DESIGN OF THIS BEULAH CORRIDOR BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE BIG SHIFT AND A TDM PRINCIPLES THAT WOULD BE IN THE GRANT APPLICATION.
WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE DRAFT LANGUAGE.
COULD YOU DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION AS TO WHETHER THAT EVEN BOLSTERS OUR CHANCES OF GETTING AWARDED ON THIS.
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>> IT'S HARD TO SAY AND PAUL JUMPED DOWN ON THE PAPER.
WE'RE BEING CAREFUL WITH THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO SAVE DESIRED AND WE DON'T WANT TO HURT ANYTHING WITH THE TIA.
WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE TIA.
BUT ALL THAT LANGUAGE IS GOING TO HELP THAT CRITERIA.
WE'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH TIFFANY AND MICHELLE AND JENNY NIEMANN, JASON THROUGH AND TRIED TO GET THAT IN THERE TO BOLSTER THAT CRITERIA TO GET MORE POINTS.
YOU NEVER KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE GRANT OR NOT BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOOD.
>> YOU COULD USE MY FILM [LAUGHTER]. ANYTHING ELSE.
>> THE GRANT IS EVERYTHING THAT'S LISTED UNDER PHASE ONE OF THOSE REGISTERS AND INTERSECTIONS.
>> YES, BUT THE NAH STAFF SAID THAT THE TEAMS THAT THEY WANTED TO ADD TO THAT.
I HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT THEY WANT TO ADD. YEAH.
THEY GOT CONSULTANT TEAM, THEY'VE GOT ALL THEIR NAH STAFF ON IT.
THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING TO THE GRANTOR ADVOCATE, HELPING METRO PLANS ON BOARD.
THE GOT A BIG TEAM HELPING WRITE THIS GRANT.
>> ONE MINUTE. [LAUGHTER]. LET'S GET THIS OVER WITH.
OUR NEXT SECTION IS TO TALK ABOUT SERVICE PARTNER CONTRACTS.
NOTES HERE. THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, OF COURSE, A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND WE LOOK FOR THEM FOR PROVIDING SERVICES THAT THE CITY DOESN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO BE THE MAIN INVOLVER IN DELIVERING SOME OF THESE SERVICES.
WE DO PARTNER WITH SEVERAL AGENCIES AND WE'LL HAVE A LIST ON THE NEXT SLIDE COMING UP.
AS WE FUND THESE SERVICE PARTNER CONTRACT, SOME OF THEM ARE ONGOING CONTRACTS THAT WE WANT TO FUND AND SOMETIMES THEY SHOW UP AS A ONETIME A NEED THAT WE WANT TO FILL FOR A ONETIME PURPOSE AND GENERALLY THINGS ARE MANAGED BY THE ORGANIZATION AFTER THAT IN PRACTICE.
AS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE YEARS, SOMETIMES WE ACTUALLY FUND IT WITH ANNUAL ONETIME MONEY.
THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY.
WE'VE GOT TO SHIFT A POT OF MONEY ABOUT 3.4 MILLION OF THE GENERAL FUND FROM THAT ONETIME ONGOING OVER TO REALLY AN ONGOING SERVICE BECAUSE WE EXPECT TO CONTINUE THESE CONTRACTS.
YOU'LL SEE SOME ONETIME NUMBERS IN THE FIGURES THAT WE COME FORWARD WITH.
I'M GOING TO SKIP THESE NEXT TWO BULLETS AND GO AHEAD AND COME BACK IF YOU DON'T MIND.
HERE IS THE TABLE OF CURRENT SERVICE PARTNER CONTRACTS IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT WE HAVE.
MAYBE HARD TO SEE FROM BACK THERE, BUT THIS IS A FOUR-YEAR LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE PROVIDED IN SERVICE PARTNER CONTRACTS.
THEN THE FAR RIGHT CORNER IS THE CHANGE FROM FOUR YEARS AGO TO WHERE WE ARE IN TODAY'S FUNDING ATMOSPHERIC JUST AS A MEASUREMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS NEEDED AT THE TIME, BUT I PUT THAT OUT THERE.
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SOME PRETTY LARGE CONTRACTS WITHIN THE SERVICE AND I'LL JUST TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THEM.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY LINE ITEM HERE.
UNITED WAY HAS BEEN A MAJOR PARTNER WITH US, PROBABLY DECADES.
WE LOOK TO THEM TO BE THAT CENTRALIZED SERVICE TO ADMINISTER AND PROCESS ALLOCATIONS OUT TO OUR COMMUNITIES FOR THOSE HEALTH AND SOCIAL NEEDS WITHIN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.
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WE WENT OUT THE CONTRACT WITH THEM SO THAT THEY CAN BE THAT POINT AGENCIES FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF VERSUS US BEING THE CARETAKERS AND REVIEWING APPLICATIONS AND IT'S A LOT OF WORK.WAY PUTS IN A LOT OF WORK TO ASSURE THESE MICE ARE ALLOCATED IN THE RIGHT PLACES AND I REALLY KUDOS TO THAT TEAM.
THE NEXT ONE TO TOUCH ON IS THE FACTS PROGRAM AT THE F-A-C-T-S FAMILY.
>> WHAT DOES IT REBECCA? THE FACTS. FAMILY AND CHILDREN.
>> YES, WE HAVE THE SCHOOL PROGRAM.
THAT'S THE EASIER WAY TO SAY IT OF WHAT IT IS.
BUT THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH FUSD AND PROVIDING THE AFTER-SCHOOL SERVICES THAT THE CHILDREN AND THE FAMILIES NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS HAS ALSO BEEN A VERY LONG-TERM COMMITMENT WITH FUSD IN PROVIDING THIS.
IT'S BEEN A GREAT PROGRAM OVER SEVERAL YEARS.
THE ANIMAL SHELTER SERVICES, I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND TOUCH ON THAT ONE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT SOME DECISIONS WERE MADE WITH COUNCIL AND GET SOME DIRECTION ON THAT CONTRACT, SO WE'LL STEP BACK INTO THAT ONE.
THEN WE HAVE VICTIM WITNESS, WHICH IS THAT ONE-STOP PROGRAM IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR VICTIMS OF CRIMES AND SO FORTH, ADVOCACY SUPPORT AND RELATED SERVICES.
THEN WE HAVE THE NORTHERN [INAUDIBLE] CENTER AGAINST SEXUAL ASSAULTS, WHO WE HELP PROVIDE FUNDING FOR SERVICES FOR THOSE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AND SO FORTH.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BIG ONES.
THOSE HAVE BEEN ONGOING FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.
CONTRACTS THAT WE DO EXPECT TO CONTINUE.
YOU DO SEE THE ONETIME COLUMN IN THE MIDDLE THERE.
BUT WE KNOW THE CONTRACTS WE WANT TO CONTINUE FOR MANY OF THESE THINGS.
JUST GOING TO TOUCH ON BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB JUST A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE RENEGOTIATING THAT SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE THEM TO A BRIGHT TERM LICENSED TO USE OUR FACILITIES.
>> I THINK WE'RE DONE ON THAT.
>> BUT I THINK WE'RE STILL TIDYING IT UP.
THERE'S A MATTER OF RESOURCES AND IF THEY NEEDED FUNDING TO RUN ALSO.
>> IF THE LICENSE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN FINALIZED.
>> OKAY. THAT MOVES US FROM REALLY FROM A SERVICE PARTNER TO A LICENSING COMPANY USING OUR FACILITIES.
THAT ONE WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IF THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL FUNDING GOING FORWARD IN THAT ASPECT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE.
THE MORE RECENT ONES WE'VE ADDED THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, BLACK LIVED EXPERIENCE, WE HAD A THREE-YEAR COMMITMENT THERE.
LAUNCHED. THEY ASKED FOR THREE YEARS OF FUNDING, WE'VE COMMITTED TO THAT.
THESE WERE THREE THAT WERE ADDED THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR.
ELEVATE PRE-K REQUESTED FUNDING IN LAST YEAR'S PROCESS AND BE ABLE TO TREAT AND PROVIDED FUNDING FOR THEM.
THAT'S IN THE ONETIME FUNDING POT AT THIS TIME.
WE'VE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT SERVICES WE WANT THEM PROVIDE, AND WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION LAST SUMMER AND FALL I BELIEVE TO GET THAT PRACTICE TOGETHER WITH THEM.
IN LOWELL OBSERVATORY WAS JUST A ONETIME COMMITMENT TO REALLY HELP BOLSTER THEIR DISCOVERY CENTER AND HELP THEM GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WHICH THEY DID THROUGH THE STATE TO HELP WITH THEIR CONSTRUCTION OUT THERE.
THAT'S OUR LIST. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU'RE RAISING YOUR HAND.
>> HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE. THIS IS ONE THAT WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF EFFORT OVER THE LAST YEAR.
WE AS A CITY AND THE COUNTY, WE'RE LOOKING TO RENEGOTIATE THAT CONTRACT WITH THEM.
IT IS AN INTER-GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, COCONINO COUNTY, AND HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE.
WE HAD SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT WHAT THE COUNTY WANTED TO DO AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS.
WE WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND BUILD IN WHAT THE CITY HAS EXPECTING, SHOULD WE EXPAND THIS CONTRACT, EXTEND IT, OR INCREASE THE COST OF THIS PROGRAM? WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY LENGTHY, GOOD CONVERSATIONS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO BRING BACK A CONTRACT FOR COUNCIL TO AGREE TO AND PROVIDE THE ONE-YEAR FUNDING TO COMPLETE OUT THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
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WHILE WE SEE AND WE DETERMINED HOW THEY MOVE FORWARD IN THEIR ORGANIZATION, HOW THEY RESPOND TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR NEEDS, OUR ANIMAL SERVICES GOING FORWARD.ON THE CITY BEHALF, WE WERE NOT PREPARED TO GO LONG TERM AT THIS TIME.
WE WANTED TO SEEK COMMITMENT AND RESULTS.
THE INITIAL FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT, WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE YEAR FOR THAT INITIAL FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT.
WE DEFINITELY WANT TO STAY WITH THAT CURRENT TERM BEFORE GOING FURTHER ON THAT.
THE COUNTY MADE A DECISION TO ACTUALLY APPROVE THE SECOND FIVE YEARS OF THEIR CONTRACT AND EXTEND IT.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY COMMITTED TO DO THE FULL 10 YEARS OF WHAT WAS AWARDED TO HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENCE IN THIS IGA WHERE CITY COMMITMENT IS VERSUS COUNTY COMMITMENT.
THE COUNTY HAS ALSO BUILT IN CONSUMER PRICE INDEX INCREASES.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE STRUGGLED WITH WHEN A PARTNER AGENCY ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING ONE YEAR AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, COSTS ARE GOING UP, WE CAN FUND IT AGAIN.
THIS IS A GOOD MOVE TO WHERE WE UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO COMMIT BASED ON FUTURE CPI AND INCREASED COSTS.
THE CITY DID NOT AGREE TO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE JUST IN THAT ONE YEAR PHASE OF OUR PLAN BUT THEY HAVE THE BUILT-IN CPI.
JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, THE CPI CAME IN FOR PET AT 9.1 PERCENT THIS YEAR. THERE'S A CAP.
WE'RE NOT TAKING THEM TO THE FULL CPI.
THE COUNTY ACTUALLY PUT A CAP AT THREE PERCENT, WHICH I THINK IT WAS VERY REASONABLE NOT TO REALLY GET THE FULL FLEXIBILITY OF A CPI.
ON THE CONVERSION, IF IT'S A NEGATIVE CPI, WE'RE NOT LOOKING DECREASE THEIR CONTRACT THERE, IS THE COUNTY'S POSITION ON THAT.
WE'RE IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS RIGHT NOW, AND SO I'M HERE TO GET SOME DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AND SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.
I ORIGINALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, DAN MUSSELMAN, AS WELL AS SHANNON ANDERSON, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE CONTRACT WHERE WE'RE AT, HOW WE FEEL CONTINUING FORWARD ON THIS AND WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE SWAP BELIEFS ARE GETTING THE SERVICES THEY NEED.
DAN, HE COULD SPEAK UP TO IT IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION, BUT WE'RE GOOD THAT THE COMMITMENT THEY MADE, THE CONTRACT ADJUSTMENTS WE PUT IN, THE LANGUAGE AND SO FORTH, WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE.
SO QUESTION FOR COUNCILORS, DO YOU WANT US TO BRING BACK A ONE-YEAR AMENDMENT TO AN IGA TO GET FUNDING FOR THIS LAST YEAR THROUGH 2024, OR DO WE WANT TO EXTEND IT LIKE THE COUNTY DID? BUILD IN THE CPIS LIKE THE COUNTY DID AND GET ON BOARD ON THE SAME PATH AS A COUNTY.
IF WE WANT TO DO THAT, WE WOULD BRING BACK IN IGA FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION TO EXTEND IT FOR THE REMAINING SIX YEARS FOR THAT TENURE COMMITTEE AND BUILDING THE CPIS.
WITH THOSE QUESTION ABOUT $12,000 THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR.
>> NOW, I RAISED MY HAND MAYOR CAN I JUMP IN? I'D ADVOCATE FOR A LONG TERM ARRANGEMENT FOR A FEW REASONS.
NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS THIS CONTRACT WITH HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE HAS CONSUMED A LOT OF TIME INTERNALLY.
THE AMENDMENT THAT RICK JUST MADE REFERENCE TO BUY MY CALENDAR WAS ABOUT SIX MONTHS IN THE WORKS BETWEEN OUR LEGAL TEAM, PROCUREMENT TEAM, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.
IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR, WE ALSO HAD A LOT OF DIALOGUE WITH HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE ABOUT AMENDING A CONTRACT AND IT JUST SEEMS TO BE A RECURRING THING ALL FOR GOOD REASON.
THEY'RE AT CAPACITY. THEY'D BEEN AT CAPACITY.
THEY ARE PROVIDING A VERY IMPORTANT SERVICE.
BUT WE CAN'T GO ON THIS WAY DOING THIS ON A YEAR-BY-YEAR BASIS.
IT IS TAKING A LOT OF TIME AND RESOURCE.
THAT'S MY FIRST COMMENT. THE SECOND COMMENT IS JUST A THREE-WAY AGREEMENT.
IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO BE IN LOCKSTEP WITH THE COUNTY.
IF WE'RE NOT, YOU AS OUR ELECTED BODY WILL BE HEARING FROM THE COUNTY AND THE CONVERSATION WILL GO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHY AREN'T YOU DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING? WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, AND IT'S A COUNTY OWNED FACILITY AND THE CITY PROVIDES SUPPORT.
THERE'S GOING TO BE PRESSURE TO HAVE EQUITY AMONG THE PARTNERS.
THE COUNTY ACTUALLY NOW PAYS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE BULK OF THE USAGE.
THIS IS ALL BASED UPON A FORMULA,
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WHICH IN TURN IS BASED UPON WHERE THE ANIMALS ARE DERIVING FROM.MOST OF THEM NOW, LIKE 55 PERCENT ARE COMING FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY BOUNDARIES.
BUT I THINK THERE'S WISDOM TO BEING PARALLEL WITH THE COUNTY HERE SO WE ARE SOMEWHAT ON THE SAME FOOTING, AND I DEFINITELY SEE WISDOM IN NOT HAVING TO REVISIT THIS EVERY YEAR.
I THINK THE CURRENT AMENDMENT AND THE CHIEF CAN SPEAK TO THIS, THANK YOU CHIEF FOR BEING HERE, I THINK WE HAD THE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE, THE GUARDRAILS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT IS HAPPY WITH THE SERVICE THAT'S BEING RENDERED.
I THINK THAT A LOT OF EFFORT WENT INTO THAT PART OF THE CONTRACT, DO YOU AGREE?
>> YES I WOULD. HIGH COUNTRY HUMANE ALSO THIS BENEFITS THEM BECAUSE THEY LONGER CONTRACT ALLOWS THEM TO DO MORE FUNDRAISING, AND I THINK THEY'RE PLANNING ON A CAPITAL CAMPAIGN COMING UP FOR IN ADDITION TO THE FACILITY.
BUT OUR GUARDRAILS ARE IN PLACE WHERE I DO AGREE. THANKS.
>> JUST WONDER IF WE THE COUNCIL DIRECTION FOR EXTENDING THE CONTRACT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, FIVE-YEAR JUST MAKES MORE SENSE BECAUSE IT IS JUST SO TIME-CONSUMING HUMAN RESOURCES, AND MONEY TO DO THAT.
IT MAKES IT VERY UNSTABLE FOR THE HUMANE SOCIETY TO PLAN ANYTHING WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING FUTURE AND ALSO JUST TO GIVE KUDOS TO THE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE.
A LOT OF THE POPULATION I SERVE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD DO WITHOUT THE HUMANE SOCIETY BECAUSE HAVING A PET IS A VERY EMOTIONAL SUPPORT FOR MARGINALIZED PEOPLE AND PEOPLE TRY TO LIKE WHY DID THEY HAVE A DOG OR CAT? IT'S REALLY ABOUT THEY'RE EMOTIONAL SUPPORTED.
I JUST HAD A FAMILY HAVE TO TAKE THEIR DOG THAT HAD CANCER AND HAD RECEIVED TREATMENT AND THEN HELP THEM, TAKE THEIR DOG OVER THE RAINBOW BRIDGE OFF FOR NO COST AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD'VE DONE IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR HUMANE SOCIETY TO ASSIST THEM IN THAT WHEN THEY HAD AN ANIMAL THAT WAS CLEARLY SUFFERING AND WOULD HAVE RESOURCES TO HANDLE IT.
DEFINITELY, I WOULD BE BE NOT ONLY CONTINUE OUR PARTNERSHIP THAT EXTEND FIVE YEAR INSURANCE. [INAUDIBLE]
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, I AGREE.
I BELIEVE THAT THESE SERVICES ARE ESSENTIAL.
I THINK THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THE INVESTMENT AND THE COMMITMENT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITHOUT LOOKING A LITTLE BIT AT THE LANDSCAPE LEVEL.
I REALLY DON'T WANT TO MAKE THIS INTO PITTING OUR UNSHELTERED ANIMALS VERSUS OUR UNSHELTERED PEOPLE INTO A CONVERSATION.
BUT AT SOME LEVEL, I THINK WE NEED TO CLEAR THE AIR THERE.
WE'VE HINTED AT THIS LINE ITEM IDEA AROUND OUR SHELTER SERVICES IN THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION.
I STILL DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.
BUT I NEED TO SEE THE BALANCE OF THAT BEFORE I PROVIDE DIRECTION ON THIS PARTICULAR THING.
GENERALLY, I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO BE FULLY COMMITTED TO THIS, TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT, AND TO SEE IT THROUGH ON THAT MIDTERM LEVEL.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR UNSHELTERED PEOPLE POPULATION.
>> MAY I RESPOND, THERE? I AGREE.
I FIGURED THAT'S WHERE ACCOUNTS WOULD BE GOING AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE.
FRANKLY, I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO HAVE IT.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE A STANDALONE DISCUSSION PROBABLY AT THE DAYS MAYBE A WORK SESSION WITH FSS.
I THINK THE TIME IS RIGHT BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF, NOT EBB AND FLOW, BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INFUSION OF CAPITAL THROUGH GRANTS AND APPROPRIATIONS GOING TO SOME OF OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS.
THEY'VE EXPANDED THEIR PROGRAMS. BUT WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO AND WHAT WE'RE ALL UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE THE RECURRING COMMITMENT BY THE CITY AS A LINE ITEM THAT ENDURES YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] ACCOUNTING STUFF TOO, SO THEY'RE ALL THERE.
>> WE WILL GET THIS IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR FLAGSTAFF SHELTER SERVICES, BUT WE CAN INVITE ROSS AND HER TEAM TO COME IN AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN ENHANCED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
IT'S A PARALLEL TO OUR DISCUSSION OF ONE-TIME VERSUS ONGOING.
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WHAT ARE THEIR ONGOING NEEDS AND IS IT TIME TO BE THINKING ABOUT AN APPROPRIATION THERE, SO IT'S NOT A YEAR-BY-YEAR THING.>> THANK YOU, GREG. THIS PROBABLY GOES WITHOUT SAYING BUT DOING THAT BEFORE THE NEXT BUDGET RETREAT.
>> MR. ASLAN ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THIS EXACT THING, SO I WAS [INAUDIBLE] TALK ABOUT.
I NOTICED ON YOUR OTHER PAGE FOR FLAGSTAFF SHELTER PURPOSES, I DON'T SEE ANY MONEY FOR THEM, AM I WRONG?
>> THERE'S A GENERAL ITEM THERE FOR SHELTER SERVICES BUT IT'S NOT SPECIFIC [OVERLAPPING].
>> THEY MADE RECEIVE CDBG, OTHER TYPES OF FUNDING OF THE CITY.
>> SO FORTH. THIS IS JUST GENERAL FUND COMMITMENT AND THE PURPOSE OF THESE BIRDS PRETTY FOCUSED AS FAR AS THE SHELTER OR CLOSE REALLY, IN THOSE WINTER CONDITIONS, IF THEY DON'T HAVE CAPACITY, THEY CAN COME TO US AND REQUEST SOME FUNDING TO HELP WITH THEIR CAPACITY.
THE OTHER SHELTER SERVICES WAS A ONE-TIME COMMITMENT THAT WAS ASKED FOR AND WE PROVIDED IT.
THERE'S A BALANCE OF LIFE THERE.
>> PARALLEL TO WHAT, MR. ASLAN [INAUDIBLE] CAN JUST SAID, I THINK WE NEED A MORE THOROUGH DISCUSSION.
I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CHART, A LOT OF MONEY'S GOING TO THE SHELTER SERVICES.
NOW, I REALIZED THAT SOME OF THAT ISN'T DISCRETIONARY.
YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT TO THE ANIMALS, BUT I FEEL MORALLY EVEN STRONGER TO SUPPORT FLAGSTAFF SHELTER SERVICES.
WE DO NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO CAMP IN THE CITY.
WE DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO CAMP UP ON MARS HILL OR WHATEVER.
BECAUSE OF THAT, I THINK THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT SAME COIN IS WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE A PLACE TO SLEEP IF THEY HAVE NO OTHER MEANS.
THE CONCEPT OF THE LONGER-TERM CONTRACT MAKES SENSE.
BUT BEFORE WE HAVE THE COMPLETE DISCUSSION, PROBABLY GOING TO HOLD BACK ANY STRONG RECOMMENDATION ONE DAY TOGETHER.
>> THAT'S FINE. WE WERE LOOKING FOR A DIRECTION THAT WILL PUT IT ON PAUSE, BUT I NEED TO MAKE A CLARIFYING COMMENT.
THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF ASSISTANCE GOING TO FLEX THAT SHELTER SERVICES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
IT IS JUST NOT EMBODIED IN HIS PARTICULAR FILE.
WELL, IF MAY A COUNCIL MEMBER, I WOULD RATHER NOT LUMP THESE THINGS TOGETHER IN THE SAME DISCUSSION.
I THINK THERE IS A GREAT DISSERVICE TO START COMPARING ANIMAL SHELTER TO HUMAN SHELTER, AND THAT'S THE PATH WE SHOULD NOT GO DOWN.
WE'LL HAVE TWO STANDALONE DISCUSSIONS IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND HAVE EACH ONE ON ITS MERITS.
BUT GETTING INTO THAT COMPARISON I THINK SERVES NO BENEFIT.
>> WELL, I THINK YOU'VE MADE A GOOD POINT.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THE BUDGET PROCESS WAS COMPARING EVERY ITEM TO EVERY OTHER ITEM.
BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE FINITE RESOURCES.
YOUR COMMENTS, MAKE SENSE. THANK YOU.
>> I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF HAVING A SIX-YEAR CONTRACT.
>> I FULLY SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.
I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF TALKING ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] SHELTER SERVICES.
>> COMING YOUR WAY AND IT WILL BE BEFORE THE NEXT RETREAT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S A WELL-INFORMED DISCUSSION AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, TO YOUR COMMENTS TO INFORM THAT DISCUSSION.
WE WILL SHOW WHAT ALL THE FUNDS THAT HAVE GONE INTO THAT AND AGAIN, WHAT THE ONGOING NEEDS WILL BE GOING INTO THE FUTURE.
>> I HAVE NO PROBLEM TO SIX-YEAR CONTRACT OR FIVE YEARS, WHATEVER IT IS, BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS THAT THE AMOUNT OF THE [INAUDIBLE] IS PRETTY HIGH.
WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE [OVERLAPPING] SHELTER SERVICES AT ALL.
>> JUST TO BE CLEAR FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE OF IS THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO A ZERO-SUM GAME BETWEEN THESE TWO.
>> CORRECT. THAT WAS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ARTICULATE.
>> CAN I JUST MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT? I KNOW WE'RE OUT OF TIME.
I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT.
BUT HIGH COUNTRY, THEY DO A LOT OF SERVICE FOR THE SHELTER, BUT ALSO THE LOW INCOME.
SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE POPULATION GROUP.
WHAT SHOULD STAFFS, SHELTER SERVICES HAS DOUBLED THE CAPACITY? IT'S NOT IN THE CAPACITY THAT STUDENTS SEE [INAUDIBLE] ,
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THEY JUST NEED MORE SUPPORT.HAVE A LOT OF GOOD MOMENTUM AND AT THAT RISK THAT IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME.
BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT I KNOW THE CIRCUIT PARTIAL UNSHELTERED GROUP THAT WILL GO WHERE THEY COULD STAY AND HANG OUT.
WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD SO MUCH OF THAT THEY JUST IF IT'S NEEDED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE HERE.
I DO AGREE THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THEM TWO SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS.
THIS IS A UNITED SOCIETY, TAKES CARE OF JUST SO MANY ASPECTS FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER AND IT'S NOT JUST ONE OR THE OTHER BECAUSE IT PROVIDES A SERVICE FOR LOW-INCOME PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THAT NEED THAT HELP THAT WOULD NOT.
WE'VE A LOT OF DOGS ON THE STREET BECOME A LOT OF INHUMANE ACTIONS TO SICK ANIMALS AND STUFF BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY SMART.
I THINK YOU NEED TO KEEP THIS SEGMENT.
>> THANK YOU, LIANE. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPENSATION.
TWO MORE THINGS TO GO THROUGH.
SERVICE PARTNER UPDATES TO THE COUNCIL.
THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, WE USED TO HAVE THEM COME IN FRONT FOR A WORK SESSION NIGHT AND IT WAS A LENGTHY CONVERSATION WITH EACH ONE.
IT TOOK EFFORT TO PULL THIS TOGETHER.
THE QUESTION IS, DO THIS COUNCIL WANT TO HAVE THAT OCCUR AGAIN? DO WE WANT TO SET UP A WORK SESSION WITH OUR SERVICE PARTNERS, SOME OF OUR PRIMARY ONES THAT WE GET THE FUNDING IN THE MARCH, APRIL, MAY TIMEFRAME? FOR YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE SERVICES UNDERSTANDING? IT'S AN OPTION.
>> I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THEM COME AND PRESENT, NOT TO DEFEND WHAT THEY'RE RECEIVING.
BUT IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR ALL OF THE IMPORTANT WORK OF ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT HAS TO MEET EVERYONE IN ONE NIGHT.
EVEN IF IS EACH GROUP PRESENTED ONCE A YEAR, BUT WE DID IT ORDERLY.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK THE PUBLIC DEBTS AS WELL [BACKGROUND]
THE LAST THING I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE COUNCIL ON IS WITH THE HELP OF SUSTAINABILITY, CALL THE BUDGET TEAM, AND COULDN'T GET ANY RISKS OF HOLLOWAY, WHO USED TO BE WITH SUSTAINABILITY.
WE STARTED DEVELOPING APPLICATION PROCESS FOR OUR INDIVIDUAL OR AGENCIES TO REQUEST FUNDING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GOT A LITTLE TOUGH LAST APRIL AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY'RE SENDING LETTERS, THEY'RE ASKING FOR SUPPORT, BUT WHAT'S THE BACKGROUND? WHAT'S THE FINANCIAL BACKGROUND? HOW DID THEY REALLY ALIGN WITH THE PSEUDO-PLANNING STAFF? OUR MISSION, OUR VALUES, OUR PRIORITY-BASED BUDGETING ON MEASUREMENTS.
WE TOOK ON THIS TASK A LOT FROM STANDARDLY OFTEN, WE'RE WORKING WITH PURCHASING AND WE'LL WORK WITH LEGAL ON IT TO FIND A WAY TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER IN ONE SPOT.
YOU COUNCIL FOR BUDGET TEAM AND AS WE'RE CONSIDERING FUNDING AGENCIES THAT COME FORWARD DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
THIS IS JUST REALLY AN UPDATE.
WE'RE WORKING ON THIS TO MAKE IT A MORE FORMAL, CONSISTENT PROCESS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF FUNDING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
I JUST THINK THERE'S A GOOD MOVE AND TRY TO POLISH THIS UP.
[APPLAUSE] IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S OVER TO THE MAYOR AND THE NEXT SECTION, BUDGET EXPECTATIONS [INAUDIBLE]. EXCELLENT, COUNCIL.
>> I'LL KICK IT OFF, MAYOR AND THEN BRING IT IN FOR YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES DISCUSSIONS.
>> WE WILL HAVE NOTES SUMMARIZING, BUT THERE'S MANY TALKING POINTS OF YESTERDAY AND TODAY, SO THIS IS NOT THAT THAT'LL BE COMING TO YOU, BUT AS I'M LOOKING AT MY OWN NOTES, SOME TAKEAWAYS THAT I THINK SHOULD SEGUE INTO THE NEXT DISCUSSION.
YOU OBVIOUSLY HAD A VERY INFORMATIVE, HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
ON FRIDAY APRIL 7TH, THERE WILL BE A SINGLE DAY RETREAT,
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PROBABLY NOT A FULL DAY, THANKFULLY, BUT THAT WILL BE THE FOCUS.THAT'S OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN RETREAT AND THEN AT THE END OF APRIL, IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE THIS, A TWO-DAY RETREAT TALKING ABOUT THE VARIOUS THINGS AND EVERYTHING.
AS I'VE MENTIONED, WE'LL CONTINUE TO GET MORE AND MORE DETAIL, BUT WE ARE GETTING SOME GOOD TAKEAWAYS.
WHAT I WROTE DOWN FROM LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, OF COURSE I WON'T GO OVER THE PROJECTS.
JUST MENTIONED THAT THE ESCO CERTAINLY WILL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AND PURSUING THE PHASE 2.
WHEN TIME ALLOWS, WE'LL HAVE GOOD DISCUSSION ON THAT.
STAY TUNED ON THIS TOPICS THAT WILL BE RAISED LIKE BUILDING SECURITY WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH THAT, THE ASSET MANAGEMENT TOOL FOR OUR FACILITIES.
VERY WELL-INFORMED DISCUSSIONS.
STAY TUNED ON CONTINUED DISCUSSION ON INVESTING IN OUR EMPLOYEES WITH THE PAY FOR PERFORMANCE, THE INCREASED COST THAT THE REQUEST TO KEEP THOSE PROPORTIONAL, AND THE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS IN ALL THE THINGS THAT RANDY WALKED THROUGH, YOU'LL CONTINUE TO GET THE PLAY-BY-PLAY ON THAT STUFF.
WE HAD SOME VERY I THOUGHT BRAINSTORMING TYPE OF DISCUSSION ON THE HIGHWAY 180 PROJECT AND STORMWATER RINGS.
I FEEL, I HOPE COUNCIL AGREES THAT THE STORMWATER GREAT DISCUSSION THAT WILL BE ENSUING ON FEBRUARY 14TH, YOU HAVE THE MORE INFORMATION AND SOME MORE IDEAS AND ALLOW US AT THE STAFF LEVEL TO BETTER GET THOSE SO BY THE TIME IT COMES TO THE DAY IS WE MIGHT HAVE SOME GOOD STRATEGIES FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AS THEIR HUSBAND.
I THINK WE'RE GETTING CLOSE ON THAT SO THAT WAS GREAT.
>> IN TERMS OF STORMWATER, WE WERE PROVIDED WITH THREE OPTIONS.
YOU BREAK THOSE OPTIONS, MIGHT CHANGE OR THEY MIGHT [OVERLAPPING]
>> VARY SLIGHTLY, BUT I'M GOING TO NUDGE PRETTY HARD THAT WE DON'T KEEP CHANGING OPTIONS BECAUSE IT'S JUST GETTING CONFUSING.
BUT WITH THE LIKELY INFUSION OF SOME STATE DOLLARS AND SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT RICK LAID OUT YESTERDAY AND WE HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL.
MAYBE WE CAN REFINE THOSE OPTIONS A BIT.
WE WILL TRY TO MAKE IT EASY FOR COUNCIL ON THIS AS EASY AS POSSIBLE TO STEP VERY COMPLICATED TOPIC.
I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT.
YOU WILL BE HAVING A DISCUSSION OF AFTER THE SNOW MELTS THE EARLY AND FIGURATIVELY WITH OUR STELLAR STREETS CREW AND SCOTT, TO TALK ABOUT SNOW OPERATIONS.
WE HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR YESTERDAY.
WE WILL CONCLUDE THE ALLEYWAY DISCUSSION IN THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.
I DON'T THINK WE WILL INCLUDE THE BIKE PATH DISCUSSION IN THAT.
I FEEL THAT NEEDS TO BE A STANDALONE DISCUSSION AND I THINK INTERNALLY WE'D LIKE A LITTLE MORE TIME WITH THAT ONE.
THE DISCUSSIONS TOOK MORE RECENTLY THIS AFTERNOON, EXPECT FOLLOW-UP, WE THINK WE'RE HEARING CONSENSUS TO GO FORWARD WITH THE EXTENSION ON THE HIGH COUNTRY CAN MEAN CONTRACT.
BUT I THINK RESPECTFUL OF ALL COMMENTS MADE, WE WILL TUCK THAT ASIDE FOR THE MOMENT AND GET IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY AS THE FLAGSTAFF SHELTER SERVICES PREPARE THEM FOR AN UPDATE AND DRILL DOWN ON WHAT THE ONGOING NEEDS WOULD BE WITH THE IDEA THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO TO AN ONGOING CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENT, WHICH I ALSO THINK MAKES SENSE.
SO WE WILL I THINK TOOK GOOD NOTES DURING THAT DISCUSSION AND STAY TUNED.
YOU HAD THE UPDATE ON NAH, NO CONCLUSIVE COMMENTS ON THAT IS GOING TO BE AN ONGOING DIALOGUE FOR SOME TIME.
THANK YOU FOR THIS MEAN TO OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF AND OUR FIRE CHIEF, THEY'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT.
I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THERE'S SO MUCH DISCUSSION HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES.
WE KNOW YOU'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES WITH NAH AS WELL.
AT THE STAFF LEVEL, WE'RE HAMMERING THROUGH THIS STUFF.
I'M BEING LIBERAL WITH MY COMMENTS.
I'M AT THE TABLE SOMETIMES, SO IT REALLY HEAVY LIFT IS COMING FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, FIRE AND LEGAL TEAM AND OUR CARBON.
PARDON ME, I SHOULDN'T SPEAK AND HAVE COTTON OR WORDS IN FRONT OF YOU AT THE SAME TIME, FIXING MY WORDS.
OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS TEAM AS WELL.
THERE AREN'T MANY PEOPLE FRANKLY AT THE TABLE ON NAH, SO THAT DIALOGUE IS CONTINUING AND YOU'LL
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JUST CONTINUE TO KEEP IT GOING AND KEEP YOU UPDATED.I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M MISSING ANYTHING HERE.
AS I MENTIONED, WE WILL HAVE NOTES FROM THIS RETREAT GOING OUT TO YOU.
BUT MAYOR, NOW I'LL TURN IT INWARD TO THE COUNCIL AND SEE WHAT ARE YOUR TAKEAWAYS, WHAT ARE THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE US SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME WITH IN PREPARATION OF THE NEXT RETREAT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR ITEMS THAT WE DIDN'T GIVE ENOUGH ATTENTION TO OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY EXACT QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S STILL LINGERING THAT YOU THINK WE NEED MORE TIME ON AND MAYBE NOT AT THIS NEXT RETREAT? BUT IF FUTURE YOU WANT IT COMING BACK. TAKEAWAYS?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID.
I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS A LOT OF TIMES.
NATURE OF THIS AS WE GO FROM VERY GENERAL, THE COVER DIFFERENTLY OR WHATEVER AND THEN EACH WEEK AND GETS MORE SPECIFIC.
SO THE WAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN GOING AND ANTICIPATE THAT YOU PLAN IT, I THINK IT'S PERFECT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. WE DID NOT TALK ABOUT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING.
YOU'VE GOT A GOOD DOSE OF THAT LAST TIME, BUT IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU AS WELL.
>> I THINK THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP AND I THINK A FAIR AMOUNT OF ATTENTION IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT TO IT AND YOU JUST ALLUDED TO IT.
THE PILOT BIKE PROJECTS WHERE WE GO FROM HERE AND HOW WE INVEST DOLLARS INTO DOING THAT PERMANENTLY CORRECTLY IS IMPORTANT TO ME, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD WAIT ON THAT SO THERE'S THAT AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO ERROR TOO IS, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK FROM THE PUBLIC COMING AT US FROM DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ON DIFFERENT ISSUES AROUND RESOURCE ALLOCATION, BUT ALSO STAFFING.
AGAIN, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT CAME WITH ONE OF HIS COUNCIL WAS AN INFORMAL PETITION ASKING FOR THE TOTAL RESTRUCTURING OF HOW WE THINK ABOUT RESOURCING OUR CLIMATE MITIGATION, ACTION EFFORTS IN SUSTAINABILITY TEAMWORK AND WE'RE ALSO HEARING SOME REQUESTS ABOUT HOW DO WE PROPERLY STOP THE BIG SHIFT AND ALL OF THESE THINGS AND I JUST WANT TO PUT MY WEIGHT BEHIND THE IDEA THAT I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S IN THE PURVIEW OF YOUR OFFICE TO FIGURE OUT PRECISELY HOW TO STAFF THOSE THINGS AND I PERSONALLY LEAVE THAT TO YOU TO FIGURE OUT WHAT I DO KNOW AND WHAT I DO APPRECIATE, WHAT I ACKNOWLEDGE, AND LIFT UP, IS THAT YOUR ATTENTION TO THOSE CONSIDERATIONS AND YOUR PERSONAL COMMITMENT TO TACKLING THESE THINGS IN THE SPIRIT OF MAKING REAL PROGRESS AND REAL SYSTEMIC CHANGE IS OUT THERE AND IT'S KNOWN, IT'S VIEWABLE AND WITHOUT GETTING TOO PRESCRIPTIVE ABOUT EXACTLY HOW THAT'S DONE I'M JUST REALLY IMPRESSED AND REALLY GRATEFUL TO THE ATTENTION THAT YOU'RE BRINGING INTO THOSE BIGGER STAFFING CHALLENGES AND CONSIDERATIONS IN TERMS OF THE BEST WAY TO STRATEGIZE MOVING FORWARD ON OBVIOUS THINGS.
>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT OFTEN INTERNALLY.
THE LEADERSHIP TEAM ESPECIALLY, IS THAT THE ORGANIZATION IS NEVER STATIC, IS ALWAYS EVOLVING JUST LIKE OUR COMMUNITY.
IN FACT, WE STRIVE TO BE IN STEP WITH THE EVOLUTION OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THE TOPICS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW AND OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AS THE NEXT RETREAT ARE ALL TOPICS THAT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT FRONT BURNER ITEMS 20 YEARS AGO, BUT THEY ARE NOW.
IT'S A GOOD REFLECTION OF HOW OUR COMMUNITY IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND WHAT WE AS AN ORGANIZATION DO TO KEEP UP WITH THOSE CHANGES IN THE RESULTING NEEDS AND SOMETIMES DEMANDS FOR SERVICES AS WELL.
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EXPECT A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS.WHILE YOU'RE VERY KIND WITH YOUR COMMENTS, I WOULD BE QUICK TO SAY, WE PROCESS THESE INTERNAL, THE ENORMITY OF THIS DOES NOT REST WITH ANY INDIVIDUAL, IS WAY TOO BIG.
IT DOES RESIDE WITH OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM AND ULTIMATELY WITH OTHER TEAMS IN THE ORGANIZATION, AND WE APPROACH IT VERY COLLABORATIVELY.
THE OTHER THING I'LL ADD TO THAT IS IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO THE DAY IS ALL THE RESTRUCTURES WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT.
WHAT WERE THE LAST FEW YEARS, BUT GAVE YOU A LITTLE SUMMARY OF THOSE RECENTLY.
HAVE ALL HAD COUNCIL INPUT ALONG THE WAY, USUALLY TOWARD THE END OF THE PROCESS.
BUT WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE CHANGES WITHOUT HAVING THE COUNCIL WITH US.
WE ALL REPRESENT THE SAME ORGANIZATION FRANKLY, AND WE NEED TO BE UNITED IN FULL ALIGNMENT IN THESE CHANGES.
YOU MENTIONED SUSTAINABILITY AS A REAL GOOD EXAMPLE, BUT IF WE CAN RATTLE OFF, THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER ONES AS WELL.
RECENTLY, THE CREATION OF PROSE, OUR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND EVENTS HAS BEEN WELL-RECEIVED.
COUNCIL HAD A LOT OF INPUT ON THAT.
IT DEPARTMENT, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS DEPARTMENTS, AND MOST RECENTLY, OUR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE DO.
DO YOU KNOW THAT WE MAY BE REVISITING THE NAME OF OUR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
SHE HAS SOME IDEAS. I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
>> I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE WE'RE ALMOST AT THE SCHEDULED TIME.
>> WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT MAYBE PEOPLE TOOK OFF TIME TO COME HERE.
LET'S EXCUSE BREVITY AS MUCH AS WE CAN AS WELL.
>> I'D LIKE TO SUMMARIZE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT SPECIFIC TOPIC.
TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO NEED STAFFING INCREASES IN ORDER TO MEET SOMEBODY WHO'S GOALS.
>> PRIORITIZING THAT IS IMPORTANT.
BUT I ALSO THINK THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE THE RIGHT DECISION MAKERS IN THE ROOM WHEN IT COMES TO THAT AND DOING IT HOLISTICALLY AND TAKING THE RIGHT APPROACH.
I HAVE FULL FAITH THAT YOU ARE THE RIGHT DECISION MAKER FOR THE SPECIFICS AND THE PRESCRIPTIVE DEVELOPMENTS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M SORRY TO GET US OVER TIME. WHAT IS?
>> MAYOR, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HEAR FROM YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES.
IF THERE ARE OTHER TAKEAWAYS OR AREAS OF EMPHASIS YOU'D LIKE TO PARTICULARLY.
>> YEAH. HARRIS, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT AND SOMETHING FOR US TO THINK ABOUT.
FOR THE LAST TWO DAYS I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE.
I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH MORE THAN I DID BEFORE I CAME HERE.
BUT I JUST WISH THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR HALF OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD HERE IN THIS.
I THINK THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY IN TERMS OF PEOPLE COME INTO THE DEAL WITH ISSUES YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE KNOW.
WE SIT HERE AND WE SAY, WELL, WHY DON'T THEY UNDERSTAND.
YES. STUFF IS IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ALL OF THAT, BUT YOU ALL KNOW, THAT DOESN'T WORK.
BRINGING PEOPLE INTO, JUST LIKE THE POLICE DO WITH THEIR CITIZENS THING.
>> YEAH, ACADEMY [OVERLAPPING] BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HOPE IS THAT WE COULD THINK ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO FOLKS CAN HEAR WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH ALL THE TIME.
>> REGARDING RENAMING THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, I SUGGESTED WE CALL IT THE STACY'S DEPARTMENT.
>> MANY MORE PEOPLE AT THE TABLE THAN ME.
>> YEAH, BUT THERE'S TWO OF YOU.
>> I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE TO SUGGEST IN WHEN WE BRING IT FORWARD.
>> I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER REQUESTS TO COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
[5. Public Participation]
I THINK WE'RE READY TO TAKE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [OVERLAPPING]
>> HELLO, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CATHOLIC LEADERSHIP, CITY CLERK, STAFF.
IT'S SO GREAT TO BE HERE IN PERSON WITH YOU ALL.
REALLY NOSTALGIC, BEING BACK IN THE SPACE AND LISTENING IN ON THE CONVERSATION, GREAT COMMENTS.
COUNCIL MY GUY. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR LAST COMMENT ABOUT PUBLIC ACCESS.
[04:35:02]
BUT KNOWING THAT I'M ON THE CLOCK NEEDS TO BE BRIEF.I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS BASED OFF OF THINGS I HEARD TODAY WITH THE CARE PROGRAMMING AND THE 2.4 MILLION.
AT FIRST, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A WONDERFUL IDEA.
I DID SPEAK TO SOME STAFF MEMBERS COUNCIL, AND I FOUND OUT THAT THE CARE TEAM IS STRUGGLING TO FIND A HOME.
THERE ARE OTHER SPACE AT THE FIRE STATIONS, AND IT WAS MADE CLEAR TO ME THAT THAT FUNDING MIGHT BE NEEDED TO HELP THEM ACCOMMODATE ANY CARE TEAM AND CURRENT IN THE CURRENT CAPACITY AND ALSO FUTURE CAPACITY.
AS YOU CONSIDER WHAT TO DO WITH THAT 2.4 MILLION.
I ASKED FOR YOU TO REALLY KEEP IN MIND WHAT THE CARE TEAM NEEDS, BUT IF THEY DIDN'T NEED THOSE FUNDS, SYMETRA, I THINK YOUR IDEA IS BRILLIANT AND WONDERFUL AND I FULLY SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE WORKING TOWARDS.
VICE MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE BIKE PILOT YESTERDAY.
I THOUGHT YOU ALL WERE AT THE APOPLEXY AND I RODE MY BIKE TO THE [INAUDIBLE] TO FIND OUT YOU WEREN'T THERE.
I RUDE ALONG THE BIKE PILOT AND IT WAS BRUTAL.
IT WAS ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL. IT WAS ICY.
TURNS OF SPORES ONTO THE ROAD WITH 40 MILE AN HOUR CARS, WHICH IF I GOT HIT, I WOULD LIKELY BE DEAD.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE WHAT IS HAPPENING ALONG BUTLER.
I KNOW THAT IF COUNCIL DOESN'T FUND PHASE 2 OF THAT BIKE PILOT, IT'S LIKELY GOING TO BE REMOVED, WHICH IS NOT A GOOD SOLUTION.
THERE WERE FIVE PROJECTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED LAST YEAR.
I FOUND OUT YESTERDAY, THE BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THAT THERE ARE NO GRANT APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED THROUGH ANY OF THOSE TYPE PROJECTS.
THAT MEANS THAT IT'S ON US TO FUND OR WE JUST PUSH IT BACK IN ANOTHER YEAR.
I JUST ASKED OF THE FIVE PROJECTS THAT WE PRIORITIZE, AT LEAST THE BIKE PILOT AND MAYBE ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS AT BUTLER AND BEAVER OR BUTLER IN SAN FRAN TO DO A PROTECTED INTERSECTION.
IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE PROJECT AND THEN ANOTHER MILLION FOR THE INTERSECTION.
I JUST FEEL LIKE IF $12 MILLION OF 419 FUNDING CAN BE FOUND FOR THE BEULAH ALIGNMENTS.
A COUPLE OF MILLION CAN BE DONE TO CORRECT MY BIKE PILOT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR A GREAT RETREATS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE. CHEERS.
>> THANKS, ADAM. THERE'S NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I DON'T SEE ANY JUST DOUBLE-CHECK REAL QUICK ONLINE.
>> I DON'T SEE ANY COMMENT ONLINE.
>> I DIDN'T SEE IT. QUICK MOMENT.
MICHELLE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE AND OFFER YOUR COMMENTS NOW.
SORRY, LET ME TRY ONE MORE TIME.
GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT A TRY NOW, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> HELLO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? GREAT. COMPUTER PROBLEMS THERE.
MICHELLE JAMES, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FRIENDS OF FLAGSTAFF'S FUTURE.
IT'S BEEN VERY INTERESTING TO LISTEN TO YOUR BUDGET RETREAT OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS.
I REALIZED COUNCIL HAS SOME HARD DECISIONS TO MAKE.
COUNCIL ALSO HAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN MANY AREAS.
ONE OF THESE AREAS IS CLIMATE ACTION.
AT THE SUSTAINABILITY DIVISIONS PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL ON JANUARY 24TH, MS. ANTONOPOULOS DREW ATTENTION TO WHAT SHE CALLED THE SERIOUS REALITY.
THIS INCLUDES THE FACT THAT CLIMATE CHANGE ACTION, AS OUTLINED IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, IS UNDERFUNDED AT A BASE BUDGET OF $112,000 A YEAR.
ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE FURTHER IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLANNED AND TO ADDRESS THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY.
IS 2023 AND THERE ARE ONLY SEVEN MORE YEARS TO IMPLEMENT THE WORK OUTLINED IN THE CARBON TROLLEY PLAN.
THE COUNCIL SUPPORT OF THE CARBONS ARE A LOT OF PARENTS SHOULD INCLUDE STRONG DIRECTION TO INCREASE SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION'S OPERATING BUDGET.
THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY CAN BUILD A MORE RESILIENT AND STRONGER FLAGSTAFF.
RELATED BUDGET ISSUE THAT I COULD NOT SEE DISCUSSED TODAY.
IS THAT A FUNDING THE ACTIONS SUGGESTED FOR IMPLEMENTATION BY THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.
IN THEIR RECENT LETTER TO COUNCIL, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I JUST HEARD FROM ONE, LET'S TALK ABOUT TWO THIS REQUEST INCLUDES IMPLEMENTING PRIORITY PROJECTS AS OUTLINED IN THE ATMP, AND AN INCREASE IN FUNDING FOR STAFF TO IMPLEMENT THE BIG SHIFT.
I ATTENDED THE BICYCLE COMMITTEE MEETING YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND LEARN THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR THESE HIGHER PRIORITY PROJECTS.
I HEARD TODAY THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS AND PLEASE KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE VERY PLEASED TO SEE ACTION ON THE GROUND TO IMPROVE BIKE AND PEDS SAFETY. THANK YOU.
>> OTHER HANDS UP. YOU'RE GOOD.
PLEASE DON'T MAKE THAT WORK AT ALL.
[LAUGHTER] COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE] AND KATIE, THANK YOU.
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WE ARE ADJOURNED.[NOISE]
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