Mar 21, 2023 City Council Meeting

>> ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

>> AYE[OVERLAPPING].

MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 5, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

[5. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION Public Participation enables the public to address the Council about an item that is not on the agenda. Comments relating to items that are on the agenda will be taken at the time that the item is discussed. If you wish to address the Council at tonight's meeting, please complete a comment card and submit it to the recording clerk as soon as possible. Your name will be called when it is your turn to speak. You may address the Council up to three times throughout the meeting, including comments made during Public Participation. Please limit your remarks to three minutes per item to allow everyone an opportunity to speak. At the discretion of the Chair, ten or more persons present at the meeting and wishing to speak may appoint a representative who may have no more than fifteen minutes to speak. ]

I HAVE A COUPLE OF CARDS IN FRONT OF ME AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ALSO HAVE AN ONLINE COMMENTER, SO I WILL START WITH SARA DECHTER.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR DAGGETT, AND COUNCIL. I'M SARA DECHTER.

I'M THE CONFERENCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

WHAT DOES THE FUTURE LOOK LIKE FOR THE FLAGSTAFF REGION? THAT IS THE QUESTION THAT THE FLAGSTAFF REGIONAL PLAN WILL TACKLE IN UPCOMING WORKSHOPS.

WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES IF FLOODING BECOMES MORE SEVERE AND UNPREDICTABLE? OR IF A RECORD NUMBER OF PEOPLE MOVE TO FLAGSTAFF TO ESCAPE THE HEAT? OR IF WE EXPERIENCE POPULATION DECLINE BEYOND 2045? THE FUTURE IS UNCERTAIN AS THE LAST THREE YEARS HAVE TAUGHT US, AND WE NEED THE PUBLIC'S INSIGHT TO HELP PLAN FOR A MORE RESILIENT, SUSTAINABLE, AND EQUITABLE FUTURE FOR FLAGSTAFF.

WHO WILL DECIDE WHAT THE FUTURE OF THIS REGION LOOKS LIKE? WILL YOU? EVERYONE LISTENING IS CORDIALLY INVITED TO ONE OF FOUR WORKSHOPS BEING HELD NEXT WEEK TO THINK ABOUT AND DISCUSS HOW YOU WOULD MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT OUR REGION'S FUTURE IN UNCERTAINTY AND IN AREAS WHERE WE MAY HAVE DISAGREEMENTS ON HOW TO PROCEED.

THE DATES OF THE WORKSHOPS ARE ON TUESDAY, MARCH 28, FROM 8:30 AM TO 9:30 AM, AND FROM 10:30 AM TO NOON, AND ON THURSDAY, MARCH 30TH FROM 6:00 PM TO 7:30 PM, AND ON SATURDAY, APRIL 1ST FROM 10:00 AM TO 11:30 AM.

ALL OF THESE ARE BEING HELD AT THE FLAGSTAFF AQUA PLEX, AND CHILDCARE IS AVAILABLE WITH AN RSVP AND SPANISH FACILITATION.

ON THAT APRIL 1ST MEETING WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE WITH AN RSVP.

YOU CAN VISIT THE PROJECT WEBSITE AT WWW.FLAGSTAFF.GOV/REGIONALPLAN2045 TO RSVP.

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SHOW UP AND TAKE YOUR SEAT IN DEFINING OUR REGION'S FUTURE.

IF YOU'RE AT THIS MEETING IN PERSON, THERE'S ACTUALLY A POSTER IN THE LOBBY OF CITY HALL, AND YOU CAN GO TO IT TO SCAN A QR CODE AND GO DIRECTLY TO THE WEBSITE AND SAVE YOUR SPOT IN THIS IMPORTANT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITY THAT WILL SET THE COURSE FOR THE COMMUNITY'S FUTURE FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SARA. TYLER DENHAM.

>> HELLO MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS.

MY NAME IS TYLER DENHAM.

I AM HERE AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN TO INVITE YOU AND ANY INTERESTED STAFF TO A WEBINAR ON PARKING REFORM THAT WILL HOST ON APRIL 17TH AT 10:00 AM.

THE WEBINAR IS WITH CHRIS HOLLY, THE SENIOR PLANNER FOR BUFFALO, NEW YORK.

HIS CITY FAMOUSLY WAS THE FIRST IN AMERICA, AT LEAST POST-WORLD WAR II, TO ABOLISH PARKING MANDATES IN 2017.

THE WEBINAR WILL FOCUS ON THE IMPACT TO THE CITY AND THE SIX YEARS SINCE THEN AS A PREVIEW OF WHAT FLAGSTAFF CAN EXPECT IF IT FOLLOWS IN BUFFALO STEPS.

MY INTENT IS TO PROVIDE YOU A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AND ASK QUESTIONS WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS MORE EXPERIENCE WITH THE REAL-WORLD IMPACT OF PARKING REFORM THAN JUST ABOUT ANYONE IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY.

I HOPE YOU'RE ABLE TO ATTEND BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU ALL HAVE BUSY LIVES.

IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND, PLEASE EMAIL ME YOUR QUESTIONS BEFOREHAND AND I'LL ENSURE CHRIS HOLLY RESPONDS TO THEM.

A RECORDING OF THE WEBINAR WILL BE UPLOADED TO YOUTUBE FOR YOU TO WATCH LATER AT YOUR CONVENIENCE.

MY EMAIL, IF YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE IT, IS TYLER.B.DENHAM@GMAIL.COM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> WHAT'S THAT DATE AGAIN? THE DATE?

>> IT IS APRIL 17TH AT 10:00 AM.

>> THANK YOU, TYLER. NEXT STEP WE HAVE MARCUS FORD.

>> MAYOR DAGGETT AND CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS MARCUS FORD.

I FOUND LAST WEEK CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO BE VERY TROUBLING.

I SAT THROUGH SIX HOURS OF MEETING AND LEFT NOT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT HAD BEEN DECIDED OR HOW THE DECISION WAS MADE.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A CONCERTED EFFORT TO GET THE CITY TO MOVE ITS BANKING PRACTICES TO AN INSTITUTION THAT WAS NOT DEEPLY COMMITTED TO DESTROYING THE PLANET.

SOME OF YOU SEEMED OPEN TO THIS IDEA, EVEN COMMITTED TO DOING SOMETHING.

MANY INDIVIDUALS, YOUNG AND OLD, GAVE SHORT IMPASSIONED SPEECHES URGING YOU TO DO SOMETHING.

YOU ALL LISTENED POLITELY AND ATTENTIVELY AND THEN WENT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION EXTENSIVELY TO GET LEGAL ADVICE ABOUT WHEN THE CURRENT CONTRACT EXPIRES.

WHEN YOU RETURNED AFTER 30 OR 40 MINUTES, YOUR MINDS APPEARED TO BE MADE UP.

THERE WAS NO SUPPORT FOR CONSIDERING OUR CURRENT BANKING PRACTICES.

CLEARLY SOMETHING HAPPENED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT TURN THE TIDE AGAINST THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT OTHER BANKS.

COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE AND IT NEEDS TO DO SO IN PRIVATE.

BUT THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS ITSELF CANNOT HAPPEN BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

AFTER COUNCIL RETURNED FROM ITS EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A ROBUST DEBATE, NOT SIMPLY ABOUT THE PETITION AND IT'S SPECIFIC REQUESTS, BUT ALSO MORE GENERALLY ABOUT HOW THE CITY CAN MOVE FORWARD IN ADDRESSING THE CURRENT CLIMATE DISASTER THAT IS THE PRODUCT OF BUSINESSES USUAL INCLUDING BANKING.

THIS DISCUSSION DID NOT HAPPEN.

THE DECISION TO CONTINUE TO BANK WITH THE SAME BANK THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR THE PAST THREE DECADES LEFT THE IMPRESSION THAT THE CITY IS NOT TAKING THE CURRENT SITUATION SERIOUSLY.

I KNOW THIS IS NOT TRUE, BUT IT'S HARD TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN WITHOUT EVEN CONSIDERING LOOKING AT OTHER BANKS.

WHO WE BANK WITH MATTERS.

I AM HOPEFUL THAT LAST WEEK'S MEETING PROVES TO BE AN ANOMALY.

I HOLD YOU ALL IN HIGH ESTEEM AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE, BUT OUR BEST HOPE FOR CREATING A BETTER WORLD FOR ALL IS NOT JUST STAY THE COURSE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MARC. JILL STEVENSON.

>> HELLO MAYOR, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

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I DO NOT HAVE ANY NOTES PREPARED, BUT I'M COMING TO YOU AS A CITIZEN OF FLAGSTAFF AND A MEMBER OF NORTHERN ARIZONA CLIMATE CHANGE ALLIANCE, AND A GRANDMOTHER.

I THINK WE NEED SAFER WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO GET AROUND WITHOUT USING THEIR CARS.

WE KNOW THAT OUR CARBON POLLUTION IS DOING US IN, AND ONE OF THE OBVIOUS SOLUTIONS IS MORE BICYCLING, BUT WE NEED IT TO BE SAFE.

MY GRANDSON WILL BE BICYCLING OR WALKING TO HIGH SCHOOL NEXT YEAR, AND THE ROAD THAT WE LIVE ON IS NOT SAFE FOR EITHER PEDESTRIANS OR BICYCLISTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTER.

SOMETIMES THE BICYCLE LANES NARROW DOWN TO NOTHING.

DURING THIS WINTER THEY HAVE BEEN COVERED WITH SNOW AS HAVE MANY OF THE SIDEWALKS BEEN.

I'M NOT JUST TALKING TWO OR THREE FEET, WHICH MAKES IT PRETTY DIFFICULT AND DANGEROUS.

SO I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER THIS THING WHEN YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT BICYCLE LANES AND TRAVEL AND WHAT IS SAFE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. STEPHAN SUMMER.

>> HELLO, MAYOR DAGGETT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY STAFF, AND CITIZENS OF FLAGSTAFF.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY YET AGAIN THAT THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY IS UPON US.

I LOUD YOU ALL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THE COMMUNITY IN RECOGNIZING THAT IT IS A CLIMATE EMERGENCY.

I LOUD THIS BODY ALSO FOR PASSING THE FLAGSTAFF CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN IN 2018 AND THE CARBON MITIGATION PLANS SINCE THEN.

BUT AS LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU ALL NOW HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLEMENT WHAT YOU ALL SAID YOU WOULD DO.

AND I URGE YOU ALL TO REALLY SHOW LEADERSHIP ON THIS.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE EASY TO DIVEST FROM CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS LIKE WELLS FARGO THAT ARE ALSO DESTROYING THE PLANET, TO PUT IN THE BIKING INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS, TRAILS, INTERSECTIONS THAT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR FOLKS TO LOWER THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT BY BIKING AND ALL THE OTHER WAYS IN WHICH YOU ALL CAN SUPPORT MEETING THE GOALS OF THOSE PLANS THAT YOU ALL PUT IN PLACE.

SO, I JUST URGE YOU ALL TO SHOW THAT LEADERSHIP.

DON'T GET BLOCKED BY ROADBLOCKS OF ONE SORT OR ANOTHER.

BE REAL LEADERS AND FIND WAYS AROUND THOSE.

THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF ROADBLOCKS AT EVERY STAGE.

BUT AS A GLOBAL SOCIETY, OUR EMISSIONS ARE NOW OVER 59 GIGATONS PER YEAR.

EVERY LITTLE IT'S ALL ADDITIVE.

EVERY LITTLE BIT ADDS TO THAT.

I REALLY LIKED THE LOGO ON YOUR OPENING SLIDE TODAY, WHICH WAS ON THE PATH TO CARBON NEUTRALITY.

WE NEED TO REALLY GET ON THAT PATH, AND STAY ON THAT PATH BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE AT 1.5 DEGREES CENTIGRADE WARMING, AT LEAST BY 2028 SO THERE'S NO TIME LEFT.

WE NEED TO GET ON THIS NOW AND I BEG FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, STEPHAN. WE HAVE TWO ONLINE COMMENTERS.

YES. OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENTER IS OLIVIA DUNN.

OLIVIA, YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

>> MAYOR DAGGETT, VICE MAYOR ASLAN, CITY COUNCIL STAFF AND PEOPLE OF FLAGSTAFF.

I'M OLIVIA DUNN AND AN AU STUDENT, PRESIDENT OF FOSSIL FREE AND AU MEMBER FOSSIL FREE ARIZONA, AND ALSO INVOLVED IN MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

YOU MIGHT REMEMBER ME FROM LAST WEEK WHEN I ASKED YOU TO SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL IN REGARDS TO THE RENEWAL OF THE CITY'S CONTRACT WITH WELLS FARGO.

MYSELF AND HUNDREDS OF OTHERS WERE DISAPPOINTED AND DEEPLY SADDENED TO HEAR YOUR DECISION TO RENEW THE CONTRACT.

I DOUBT I NEED TO REMIND YOU OF ALL THE REASONS WHY IT IS A BAD BANK.

AND I'M HERE TO REMIND YOU THAT THIS PROBLEM IS NOT GOING AWAY AND BY IGNORING THIS RESPONSIBILITY, WE ARE ONLY PROLONGING THE FIGHT.

WE CANNOT JUST SIT BACK AND WAIT FOR OTHERS TO FIX THE WORLD.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE INCAPABLE OF THINKING IN REGARDS TO THE FUTURE.

APPARENTLY CLIMATE CHANGE SEEMS SO FAR AWAY IN DISTANT FROM NOW.

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IF WE DON'T STOP THESE EMISSION BASED INSTITUTIONS, WE ARE GOING TO SUFFER VERY SOON.

MAYBE YOU ALL WILL BE ABLE TO DIE PEACEFULLY WITHOUT WATCHING THE WORLD BURN BUT YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WILL.

THE REASONS YOU GAVE FOR YOUR REFUSAL OF OUR REQUESTS WERE VAGUE AND FRUSTRATING.

IT SEEMED TO US THAT YOU ARE DELIVERING SAD EXCUSES TO SKIRT AROUND THE HARD WORK THAT IS NECESSARY TO COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE.

AT THE BARE MINIMUM, PLEASE GIVE US A BETTER EXPLANATION.

BY SUPPORTING WELLS FARGO, YOU ARE FAILING TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE OF FLAGSTAFF AND THE EARTH.

OF COURSE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROCESS WOULD TAKE HARD WORK AND DEDICATION.

BUT I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU WOULD.

THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE A PERFECT TIME TO DO THIS AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE EXCUSES.

DESPITE THE DIFFICULTY THOUSANDS OF CITIES, INSTITUTIONS, AND EVEN COUNTRIES ARE DIVESTING.

IT'S OUR TURN TO STEP UP.

I'M AWARE AND EXTREMELY GRATEFUL OF ALL THE SUSTAINABLE INITIATIVES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE, BUT IN ORDER TO TRULY REACH CARBON NEUTRALITY, WE NEED TO STOP INVESTING IN THE GLOBAL SUPERPOWER BANKS THAT EXPLOIT LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

YOU MENTIONED LAST WEEK THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PERFECT BANK.

I AGREE, BUT THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT ARE BETTER THAN WELLS FARGO.

LAST WEEK, A FEW OF YOU SAID THAT THIS CONVERSATION NEEDS TO CONTINUE.

MYSELF AND MANY OTHERS ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS HAPPENS.

THIS PROBLEM IS NOT GOING AWAY AND NEITHER ARE WE.

I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE KIND REMARKS THAT SOME OF YOU LEFT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A MESSY TOPIC.

WE NEVER SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE SIMPLE OR EASY, BUT IT IS NECESSARY.

LAST WEEK, ONE OF YOU MENTIONED THAT THE CITY'S DIVESTMENT FROM WELLS FARGO WOULD BE FUTILE AND MINIMAL IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS.

I DON'T THINK YOU COULD BE MORE WRONG.

OVER $40 TRILLION WORLDWIDE HAS BEEN DIVERTED BECAUSE PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES ARE WORKING TOGETHER IN HOPE AND DEDICATION.

THERE ARE NO REAL EXCUSES.

I'M NOT GOING TO STOP REMINDING YOU OF THIS AND AS LONG AS I'M A RESIDENT OF FLAGSTAFF, I WILL BE HERE TO REMIND YOU OF YOUR DUTY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, OLIVIA. NEXT.

>> OUR NEXT PUBLIC COMMENTER TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE ADAM SHIMONI.

ADAM, YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY LEADERSHIPS, THE STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

SORRY ABOUT THE POOR LIGHTING IN MY SPACE, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE THE TREK OVER THE CITY HALL GIVEN THE CURRENT CONDITIONS.

OVER THE WEEKEND, THERE WAS A IMAGE THAT WAS POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA OF CARS PARKED ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF BEAVER STREET SOUTH OF THE TRACKS, ADJACENT TO BETH'S BAGELS AND A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH.

THAT IMAGE SHOW TWO BUSES, TRAVELING PARCEL CARS THAT WERE PARKED, LEAVING A VERY THIN AMOUNT OF SPACE FOR ANY KIND OF TRAVEL, FOR BICYCLES.

THAT POST GOT A LOT OF ATTENTION, A LOT OF CONVERSATION GOING, AND HOPEFULLY SOME OF YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT CONVERSATION.

NOT JUST DANGEROUS TO THOSE WHO ARE PARKING IN THE BIKE LANE, BUT IT'S DANGEROUS TO ALL USERS.

IF YOU'RE A CYCLIST TRYING TO NAVIGATE THAT, YOU BETTER BELIEVE YOU MUST BE A HIGH TECHNICAL, ABLE RIDER TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH SUCH A DIFFICULT SITUATION.

PEOPLE HAVE ALSO CLAIMED IN COMMENTS THAT THEY'RE NOT SEEING CYCLISTS.

SO THEREFORE, IT'S FINE FOR CARS TO PARK IN THAT BIKE LANE.

BUT I THINK THAT MY BIGGEST CALL TO ACTION FOR CALLING IN TODAY IS JUST ASKING THAT THE CINDERS ALONG HIGH PRIORITY BICYCLE LANES COUNCIL, BE TREATED IN A PRIORITY SENSE AND NOT BE WAITED TILL SPRING, SUMMER AS THEY TYPICALLY WAIT FOR IT.

BY THERE I MEAN STREETS TYPICALLY WAITS TILL SUMMERTIME AND AFTER THE LAST SNOWFALL TO CLEAR THE CINDERS ON THE BIKE LANES, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE OR A GOOD PRACTICE.

SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND ASKING YOU TO WORK WITH THE STREETS TEAM, ONCE THE SNOW HAS PASSED AND MELTED, LIKELY IN A FEW DAYS TO ENSURE THAT THE HIGH PRIORITY TRAVEL ROUTES FOR CYCLISTS ARE CLEARED OF CINDERS, BECAUSE RIDING ON CINDERS IS REALLY DANGEROUS AND NOT SAFE AND IT'S NOT A GOOD SITUATION.

ALSO, I WANTED TO INVITE YOU ALL TO OUR NEXT BICYCLE CLIMATE ACTION TEAM OR B CAT MEETING, WHICH IS OCCURRING TOMORROW, WEDNESDAY, 05:00- 06:00 P.M. VIRTUALLY.

WE ARE HOSTING BICEP BIKING ORGANIZATION WHO IS GOING TO BE PRESENTING ON THEIR WORK IN TOWN, PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE, AND WHERE THE B CAT AND FBO CAN COLLABORATE.

WE'LL ALSO BE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND HOW TO COMBAT THOSE WITH EDUCATION AND EMPOWERMENT, ALONG WITH THE CITY'S CRASH DATA.

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SO IF YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE CHANCE TO DIVE INTO THE CRASH DATA, YOU'RE WELCOME TO JOIN US TOMORROW VIRTUALLY, AND WE WILL DO IT TOGETHER.

THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE WELLS FARGO CONTRACT THAT OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN TO.

THAT CONTRACT IS UP I BELIEVE IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR.

I KNOW THAT THERE WERE COMMENTS [NOISE] THAT IT'S GOING TO BE RENEWED FOR A COUPLE OF MORE YEARS, BUT I THINK YOU [OVERLAPPING] ACTUALLY IN JUNE. THANK YOU.

>> MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 6, COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS.

[6. COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS]

I WILL START TO MY LEFT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE ONLY THING THAT I'M GOING TO REPORT TODAY IS THAT WE HAD I AND TWO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOURSELF INCLUDED AND MS. MATTHEWS MET WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND GOT AN UPDATE ON THAT VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT.

I GUESS I CAN REPORT THAT THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG PROBABLY BETTER THAN SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. LAST WEEK I ATTENDED THE WATER COMMISSION MEETING AND APRIL IS OUR WATER AWARENESS MONTH.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN ACTIVITIES SCHEDULED.

APRIL 1ST IS A DOWNTOWN SCAVENGER HUNT, 10:00 A.M. TO 02:00 P.M. CHECK-IN AT THE VISITOR'S CENTER.

TOMORROW I'M ATTENDING THE MOUNTAIN LINE BOARD MEETING AND THURSDAY THERE IS THE ELECTRIC BUS LAUNCH 11:30-1:30 AT THE MOUNTAIN LINE BUS STORAGE FACILITY ON CASPER. SUPER EXCITING.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE ANYTHING THIS WEEK.

THE COMMISSION ON DIVERSITY AWARENESS IS MEETING TOMORROW, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE HOUSING COMMISSION HAS MET YET FOR THIS MONTH, SO THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR.

>> NOTHING TO REPORT.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

>> SORRY, I HAD TO FIND MY MIC.

I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND SOME OF THE PROS MEETING AND BASICALLY EVERYTHING JUST SEEMS TO BE GOING ALONG.

THERE'S A LOT OF PROGRAMS HAPPENING FOR THE SUMMER THAT'S COMING UP.

HOPEFULLY, IT LOOKS LIKE BY LOOKING AT IT TODAY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO EVER GET TO SUMMER, BUT ANYWAY, THERE ARE LOTS OF PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES, MUSIC IN THE PARK.

WE'LL BE EXCITED TO SEE ALL OF THAT HAPPENS.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE A FEW THINGS.

ON MARCH 6TH, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE COCONUT OWN COMMUNITY COLLEGE PRESIDENT, THE NEW PRESIDENT, ERIC KAISER.

I WON'T STEAL HIS THUNDER.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IS OUT THERE, BUT IT WAS VERY EXCITING TO HEAR THEM ONCE AGAIN STEPPING UP IN THE CITY PARTNERSHIP IN, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ROLLING OUT SOME GREAT PARTNERSHIPS TO PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOWER-INCOME INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES AND TO PEOPLE IN TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FACILITIES.

THAT'S REALLY EXCITING AND I'M SURE MORE WILL BE TO COME.

ALSO, ON THE 8TH, I MET WITH OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND JUST REALLY HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN ADDRESSING THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE HAVE AND WHERE WE ARE WITH IMPLEMENTING THE BOND THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THINGS GETTING REALLY ROLLING ALONG IN THAT AND I WAS APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE HARD WORK THAT SARA AND JUST DINA ARE DOING.

ON MARCH 8TH, I ATTENDED OUR CJC, WHICH IS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMITTEE.

IT'S REALLY REFRESHING TO WITNESS ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS FROM POLICE DEPARTMENT TO JUDGES, TO PROSECUTORS AND DEFENSE ATTORNEYS AND HEALTHCARE AGENCIES COME TOGETHER AND SHARE INFORMATION, SO HELPS US GET ON ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN ADDRESSING SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS TOWN.

IT WAS JUST A REALLY INFORMATIVE AND GOOD MEETING.

THEN, OF COURSE, FRIDAY, I WAS WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY AND THE MAYOR, AS HE MENTIONED, ON THE RIO DE FLAG, WHICH WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL AND EDUCATIONAL FOR ME BECAUSE I'M COMING IN LATE TO THE GAME.

IT'S EXCITING TO SEE IT REALLY MOVING FORWARD AND THEN I'M ALSO ATTENDING THE MOUNTAIN LION MEETING TOMORROW AND THE FINALLY HOPEFULLY FINGERS CROSSED LAUNCH OF OUR FIRST ELECTRIC BUS.

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WE'VE HAD TO POSTPONE IT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND THAT'LL BE ON THURSDAY.

I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT HOPEFULLY WE GET TO RIDE ON IT AND I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU AND NOTHING REGARDING ANY OF MY COMMISSIONS TO REPORT CURRENTLY.

SO LET'S MOVE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 7.

[A. Consideration of Appointments: Tourism Commission. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Make one appointment to a term expiring January 2025.]

APPOINTMENTS PURSUANT TO ARS 38-431.02 NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING, OR CONSIDERING EMPLOYMENT, ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, DEMOTION, DISMISSAL, SALARIES, DISCIPLINING, OR RESIGNATION OF A PUBLIC OFFICER, APPOINTEE OR EMPLOYEE OF ANY PUBLIC BODY.

SO 7A IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO THE TOURISM COMMITTEE COMMISSION AND THAT IS TO BE MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

>> MAYOR, I'M SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD TAKE BEFORE THE MOTION. THANKS.

>> YES. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I HAVE REGINA SOLACE.

REGINA, YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES, WE CAN.

>> YES A GOOD DAY, MADAM MAYOR, MR. VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I PREFER TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU IN PERSON TODAY.

HOWEVER, THIS INCLEMENT WEATHER PREVENTED ME FROM DOING SO WITH MY 17-YEAR-OLD, THE LITTLE RED CAR, GOING UP TO DATE TO DEMONSTRATE MY FURNACE ENTHUSIASM AND DEDICATION TO SERVING OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY AS AN APPLICANT FOR THE TOURISM COMMISSION, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPOINTMENT.

THE TOURISM COMMISSION IS CHARGED WITH REVIEWING AND RECOMMENDING PROGRAMS, POLICIES, AND BUDGETS RELATED TO SUSTAINABLE TOURISM AS RESPONSIBLE STEWARDS OF PUBLIC DOLLARS OF YEARS OFF INTRINSIC KNOWLEDGE, EXPERIENCE, AND STRATEGICS.

>> MS. SALAS YOUR CONNECTION.

>> ECONOMIC SECTORS. OH, YEAH.

I HAD POOR CONNECTION.

CAN I JUST TYPE OUT MY COMMENT AND SEND IT IN THE CHAT OR EMAIL?

>> YES. YOU CAN EMAIL TO PUBLIC COMMENT AT FLAGSTAFF.AZ.GOV.

>> YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.

>> THANK YOU, REGINA. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS WAS A REAL HONOR TO WORK ON THE CONSIDERATIONS TO TWO DIFFERENT APPOINTMENTS.

I TAKE THEM VERY SERIOUSLY.

ALL OF OUR CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES WERE CREATED TO FOSTER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION INPUT AND ENCOURAGE FLAGSTAFF CITIZENS TO TAKE A PART AND AN ACTIVE ROLE IN CITY GOVERNMENT.

IT WAS JUST REALLY REFRESHING TO SEE THE APPLICANTS.

THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS WITHDRAWN.

WHEN I SPOKE TO HER, I REACHED OUT TO ALL THE APPLICANTS AND I HAD DIRECT COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM AS WELL AS THE DIRECTORS FROM EACH OF THE COMMISSIONS.

WITH ONE WITHDRAWAL, WE HAD THREE APPLICANTS.

JUST WORKING ON THE TOURISM WITH THE DIRECTOR, TRACE WARD, AND I HAD ALREADY HAD MY CONCLUSION, BUT JUST TO CONFIRM SINCE HE SEES THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF THE DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES THAT ARE IMPACTED WITH TOURISM AND THEY HAVE DEFINITE DIRECT KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE IN THAT.

I AM RECOMMENDING THE APPOINTMENT OF REGINA SALAS TO THE TOURISM COMMISSION.

>> THANK YOU. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CAN I HAVE A MOTION?

>> WELL I THINK LORI MOVED AND I'LL SECOND.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>>AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT UP IS HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION,

[B. Consideration of Appointments: Heritage Preservation Commission. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Make one AT-LARGE appointment to a term expiring December 2025.]

AND THIS IS ME AND WE HAVE

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SOME OUTSTANDING APPLICANTS AND I'M GRATEFUL TO EACH FOR SUBMITTING THEIR APPLICATION.

I AM MOVING THAT WE APPOINT ALICIA HAYES, WHO IS CURRENTLY THE CULTURAL RESOURCE SPECIALIST AT GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARK. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

LET'S MOVE DOWN TO INDIGENOUS COMMISSION.

[C. Consideration of Appointments: Indigenous Commission STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Make two appointments to terms expiring in December 2025.]

WE HAVE TWO APPOINTMENTS HERE, TWO TERMS EXPIRING DECEMBER, 2025 AND THESE ARE TO BE MADE BY FIRST COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

WE HAD NINE APPLICANTS REPRESENTING FIVE DIFFERENT TRIBES, SO WE GOT A LOT OF INPUT, A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE APPLIED.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MARIAH ZAVALA FOR A TERM EXPIRING IN DECEMBER OF 2025.

>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> ANY OPPOSED? THE SECOND APPOINTMENT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. YES, THIS WAS A GREAT FIELD.

THERE ARE SO MANY QUALIFIED APPLICANTS, AND I WAS SO EXCITED TO SEE SO MUCH INTEREST IN SUCH AN IMPORTANT COMMISSION FOR OUR GREAT CITY AND I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT OR NOMINATE DARREN LANCE.

HE IS THE OWNER OF DARREN LANCE ELECTRIC LLC.

I THINK BEING AN INDIGENOUS SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, WILL BE A GREAT ASSET TO OUR COMMISSIONS, SO I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE HIM INTO THE COMMISSION.

>> I ENTHUSIASTICALLY SECOND THAT.

>> EVEN BEFORE I ASKED FOR IT.

[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF ALL THE APPOINTEES.

MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 8, CONSENT ITEMS. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON NUMBER 8I,

[8. CONSENT ITEMS All matters under Consent Agenda are considered by the City Council to be routine and will be enacted by one motion approving the recommendations listed on the agenda. Unless otherwise indicated, expenditures approved by Council are budgeted items.]

SO WE ARE GOING TO PULL THAT TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REST OF THE CONSENT ITEMS OTHER THAN I, OR DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, WANT TO PULL OUT ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS? YES.

>> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. I BELIEVE IT'S 9A THROUGH IS IT EIGHT? MINE SAYS NINE, BUT MAYBE IT WAS A OLD VERSION OR SOMETHING.

ANYWAY CONSENT ITEMS A THROUGH J, HOLDING BACK ITEM I.

>> THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? MOVING DOWN TO ITEM 8I.

[I. Consideration and Approval of Contract: Cooperative Purchase Contract with Motorola Solutions, Inc. in the amount of $2,111,544.29 for radio equipment, setup, accessories, and service for numerous City departments. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve the Cooperative Purchase Contract with Motorola Solutions, Inc. in the amount of $2,111,544.29 for radio equipment, setup, accessories, and service for numerous City departments in need of radio replacements; and Authorize the City Manager to execute all necessary documents.]

THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF CONTRACT COOPERATIVE PURCHASE CONTRACT WITH MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF 2,111,544.29 FOR RADIO EQUIPMENT SETUP, ACCESSORIES, AND SERVICE FOR NUMEROUS CITY DEPARTMENTS.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT, OF COURSE, THERE'S NO STAFF PRESENTATION, BUT STAFF IS ON HAND IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I AM GOING TO CALL UP OUR SPEAKERS.

FIRST, WE HAVE DAVE SANDERS.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

I'M DAVID SANDERS. I WAS BORN IN FLAGSTAFF.

I'VE WORKED IN NILES RADIO SINCE 1971.

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I'VE BEEN MAINTAINING CITY RADIOS ALL ALONG.

EVEN IF THEY'RE NON-SUPPORTED MOTOROLA RADIOS OR SUPPORTED.

REGARDLESS, WE ALWAYS TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITY.

I FEEL THIS PURCHASE IS VERY EXCESSIVE, PROBABLY SAVE EASY A MILLION DOLLARS ON IT.

THERE WAS SOME OF THOSE POORLY CONCEIVED.

A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT ARE NOT NEEDED IS OLD TOWER WHERE THEY CAN REPROGRAM ENCRYPTION AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE USING THAT.

THAT'S $594 OPTION.

DOES THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REALLY NEED IT, ADS ENCRYPTION WHEN THEY DON'T EVEN USE A FREE ADP ENCRYPTION AT THIS TIME? THERE'S A PHASE 2 TRACKING OPTION FOR $361 PER RADIO.

YOU DON'T NEED THAT OPTION IF YOU'RE IN A HUGE CITY WHERE YOU'RE HARD TO GET FREQUENCIES.

THAT IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT'S NOT NEEDED.

LAST TIME, FLAGSTAFF FIRE DEPARTMENT BOUGHT MASSIVE BATH TO PORTALS AND MORE RADIOS AND THEY KNEW WHAT TO DO WITH EVERY PROBLEM THEY HAD ON THEY GAVE THEM TO OTHER AGENCIES.

MOST OF THEM ARE STILL WORKING PRETTY GOOD.

TO ME, THEY'RE JUST SOME EXTRA PURCHASE, JUST FRONTLINE ONES LIKE FIVE PER STATION AND THE REST OF THE ONES LOT OF PLENTY SUFFICE FOR THE CITY.

LAST FEW YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN NO FIRE DEPARTMENT MOBILE RADIOS OR MOBILE-BASES THAT HAVE FAILED.

ONE COMMENT HAS BEEN THAT WHEN ONE FAILS, WHAT DO WE DO? WELL, EVEN IF YOU HAVE ONE, REGARDLESS, IF YOU GO WITH THIS OR NOT, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE AN EXTRA SPARE RADIO, SO THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT.

IT ALSO FOR THE MOBILE FOR THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE BEEN CONSULTED ON THIS.

THEY'RE EVEN BUYING NEW RADIOS EVEN AS THIS WAS GOING ON.

EVEN THOUGH THE RADIOS WERE PURCHASED IN 2011, THEY'RE STILL RELIABLE.

IT'S LIKE THESE ARE MYOCARDIUM 2,000 MILES, THESE RADIOS ARE STILL DOING GOOD.

I'D LIKE ALSO TO REFER TO, I FORGOT WHAT THE TERM, NON-BRANDED RADIOS.

COCONINO COUNTY SHERIFF, FIRE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN USING HARRIS AND KENWOOD RADIOS FOR ABOUT 15 OR MORE YEARS, 18 YEARS.

WE EVEN HAD FOR THE CAMERA PORTABLE THE SHERIFF USES, HAVE ONE FAILURE.

ALL I NEED IS ANTENNAE CHECK, WHICH CAMERA'S STILL SUPPORTED.

MOTOROLA CLAIMS THEIR RADIOS WON'T BE SUPPORTED IN FIVE YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I CAN GO ON FOR 10 MINUTES ON THIS STUFF, BUT THIS SHOULD DEFINITELY BE TABLED, REALLY LOOKED AT.

ALSO, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GETTING MULTIBAND RADIOS SO THEY CAN TALK TO OTHER AGENCIES.

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE OTHER OPTIONS THEY SHOULD HAVE TO TALK TO SHERIFFS IN NEIGHBORING DEPARTMENTS.

ANY RADIOS THEY SHOULDN'T TRADE IN, THEY COULD STILL GIVE THEM TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO USE IF THEY DO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THEIR RADIOS.

>> THANK YOU. JOHN LINDSAY.

>> COUNCIL, MAYOR. MY NAME IS JOHN LINDSAY.

I'M A FLAGSTAFF RESIDENT MYSELF FOR 37 YEARS.

WE ARE PRESENTING IN THE OPPOSITE ORDER THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED WITH OURSELVES TO PRESENT FOR YOU.

THINGS MIGHT SEEM A LITTLE BIT OFF, BUT HERE WE GO.

I'M AN ENGINEER WITH NILES RADIO COMMUNICATIONS.

I PROVIDE FOR MICROWAVE SYSTEMS, DIGITAL DATA SYSTEMS, P25 DATA SYSTEMS AND OTHER SOLUTIONS.

I'VE BEEN IN FLAGSTAFF SINCE 1986.

I'VE RAISED MY FAMILY HERE FOR 37 YEARS, NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

I'VE OWNED THREE HOUSES IN FLAGSTAFF OVER THESE YEARS.

MY KIDS WENT TO SCHOOL HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

WE HAVE BOUGHT CARS, TRUCKS IN FLAGSTAFF.

WE OBVIOUSLY BUY OUR GROCERIES HERE.

WE PATRONIZE THE RESTAURANTS, PAIR UTILITIES, PAIR CLOTHES, HIRE OUR NEIGHBORS. WE LIVE HERE.

NILES RADIO AND I ARE PART OF THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY.

WHEN FLAGSTAFF FIRE DEPARTMENT ASKED FOR SOME RADIOS, LITERALLY THEY ASKED TO TRY OUT.

NILES RADIO PROVIDED RADIOS FROM L3 HARRIS, WHICH NILES RADIO REPRESENTED HARRIS OR GE COMMUNICATION'S GOING BACK SINCE THE EARLY 1970S.

THE RADIOS WE OFFERED ARE NFPA CERTIFIED RADIOS, VERY CAPABLE, VERY SAFE.

FOR THE FLAGSTAFF FIREFIGHTERS, THESE GUYS ARE OUR NEIGHBORS.

WE EXPECT THEM TO HAVE THE BEST EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE.

WE WOULDN'T BEGRUDGE ON THAT.

WE PROVIDED THE EQUIPMENT.

BUT THEY DID THIS WITHOUT AN RFI, WITHOUT AN RFP, AND CERTAINLY NOT AN RFQ.

IT BECAME QUICKLY APPARENT TO US AT NILES RADIO THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AND POSITIONING THEMSELVES IN THEIR ANALYSIS TO JUSTIFY PURCHASING MOTOROLA EQUIPMENT AT THE EXCLUSION OF ALL OTHER CONSIDERATION WITHOUT ANY ANALYSIS OF THE ACTUAL CAPABILITIES, WITHOUT AN ANALYSIS TO THE ACTUAL NEEDS OF FIRE AND POLICE, PUBLIC SERVICE DEPARTMENTS OR THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE UNSERVED.

THERE WASN'T NO RFP, RFQ, OR RFI FOR THE RADIO SYSTEM.

IF THEY HAD, THEY WOULD HAVE DONE THIS WITH AN RFI TO FIND OUT WHAT OTHER VENDORS CAN OFFER.

IF THEY HAD DONE THIS, THEY WOULD HAVE DONE AN RFP TO FIND OUT WHAT OTHER VENDORS HAVE TO SOLVE THEIR NEEDS.

IF THEY HAD, THEY WOULD HAVE USED AN RFQ TO GET A RESPONSIBLY PRICE SOLUTION THAT MEETS THEIR NEEDS AT AN AFFORDABLE PRICE.

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NILES RADIO AND I DID NOT SEE WHAT THE POLICE, FIRE SERVICES WERE WANTING TO BUY OR WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY BUYING ANYTHING UNTIL THEY SHOWED UP ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.

THERE WAS NO DOCUMENTATION.

WE HAD NO IDEA THEY WERE LOOKING FOR RADIOS OTHER THAN THEIR DISCUSSIONS OF LET'S SEE WHAT YOU'VE GOT.

THERE WAS NO FORMAL PROPOSALS.

LOOKING AT THIS LIST THAT THEY PROVIDED WITH THE AGENDA ITEM.

I'M VERY MUCH PUZZLED AS DAVE, BY THE UNNECESSARY EQUIPMENT AND FEATURES THAT FILLED THIS LIST.

I'M VERY CRITICAL OF THE EXPENSIVE OMISSIONS, EVEN MORE SO PARTS AND PIECES THAT ARE NOT IN THERE THAT THEY WOULD NEED.

THE INABILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH COCONINO COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS, THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, THE UHF BAND, IS COMPLETELY DELETED FROM ALL THE RADIOS.

THE COCONINO COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS HAS A NEW COUNTYWIDE P25 NETWORKS BEING DEPLOYED SO THEY CAN TALK FROM ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE MOGI ON RIM TO THE CITY OF PAGE.

FROM WILLIAMS GRAND CANYON TO THE COUNTY OFFICES.

BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH ALL THE RADIOS THEY'RE BUYING.

$2 MILLION WITH THE RADIOS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM.

I'M GOING TO RUN OVER A LITTLE BIT HERE.

OUR OPINION, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE COME TO THE CITY.

MAY I HAVE ANOTHER 45 SECONDS?

>> I'M SORRY. BUT IF SOMEONE ELSE IN YOUR GROUP WANTS TO FINISH WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, WE ACTUALLY HAVE QUITE A BIT TO SAY ABOUT THIS.

MY REAL OPINION IS THE COUNCIL SHOULD TABLE THIS ISSUE, PUSH IT FORWARD TO AN RFQ RFP PROCESS, FIND OUT WHAT THEY REALLY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> THANK YOU, JOHN.

>> THIS IS THE WRONG WAY TO DO IT. THANK YOU.

>> MICHAEL POSE.

>> HERE. CAN I LET JOHN, KELLY CARLIN GO FIRST?

>> YES.

>> HELLO THERE, COUNCIL. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS KELLY CARLIN, 1602 NORTHEAST STREET, FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF NILES RADIO COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH IS A LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESS IN SUNNYSIDE SINCE 1954.

REGARDING CONTENT ITEM 8I, THIS PURCHASE REQUESTS IS A FINE EXAMPLE OF WHY IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO EARN AND PAY A LIVING WAGE IN FLAGSTAFF.

BASED ON A RECENTLY PUBLISHED OPINION PIECE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNCIL REJECTS REGULATIONS SUCH AS ARIZONA SENATE BILL 1108.

HOWEVER, ON THE OTHER HAND, THE CITY DOESN'T HESITATE TO SOLE SOURCE A PURCHASE OF $2.1 MILLION TO AN OUTSIDE VENDOR WITHOUT ANY CHANCE FOR A LOCAL COMPANY TO BID.

IF THE CITY OPPOSES STATE ACTS SUCH AS SB1108, THEN THEY SHOULD DO THEIR OWN PART IN GENERATING INTO OUR ECONOMY BY PURCHASING LOCALLY.

APPROVING THIS RADIO PURCHASE MEANS THAT $2.1 MILLION OF TAXPAYER FUNDS LEAVES FLAGSTAFF.

WHEN THE CITY SOLE SOURCES THE PURCHASE LIKE THIS TO A COMPANY FROM OUTSIDE OUR COMMUNITY, THE MONEY IS REMOVED FROM OUR ECONOMY.

THESE OUTSIDE COMPANIES DON'T PAY LOCAL PROPERTY TAX, THEY DON'T SHOP HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, AND THEY CERTAINLY DON'T PAY LOCAL WAGES GUARANTEED.

IF THE GROUP THOUGHT OF THE POLICE AND FIRE IS TO PAY UP FOR BRAND AM ONLY AND THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO INCLUDE LOCAL VENDORS, THEN THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM THAT THE CITIES SHOULD DO IS ALLOW LOCAL VENDORS TO BID ON THE COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT FOR THE OTHER AGENCIES.

TRASH TRUCKS, PROS VEHICLES, PUBLIC WORKS FLEET, AND OTHER SUPPORTING DEPARTMENTS.

THESE AGENCIES CERTAINLY DON'T NEED THE MOST EXPENSIVE RADIO ON THE MARKET.

THE PORTION OF THE PURCHASE THAT I'M REFERRING TO IS THE ITEM IS ASSOCIATED AND THEN DEPARTMENT, THE ITEMS ASSOCIATED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS LISTED UNDER EMILY MARCO'S NAME IN EXHIBIT A.

ONE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS PROPOSED PURCHASES I DO NOT SEE THE ASSOCIATED LABOR COSTS INCLUDED IN THE QUOTE.

FOR THE BRAND AM RADIOS IN THIS PURCHASE, THEY DO NOT ALLOW OTHERS TO PROVIDE INSTALLATION LABOR.

THERE WILL NOT BE ANY LOCAL LABOR ALLOWED IN THE INSTALLATION PROCESS.

VEHICLES THAT REQUIRE INSTALLATIONS WILL HAVE TO BE SHUTTLED TO PHOENIX OR OUTSIDE CREWS WILL HAVE TO BE BROUGHT UP AT AN ADDITIONAL COST.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY DIDN'T NOT PROVIDE AN RFP FOR LOCAL VENDORS TO BID ON THIS PROJECT.

I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO COME TO THE COUNCIL MEETING TO BEG FOR A CHANCE TO BID ON LOCAL WORK.

GIVE A LOCAL COMPANY A CHANCE EVEN IF IT'S A PARTIAL CHANCE, THE COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS IS GOING TO SAVE MONEY EITHER WAY. PLEASE DON'T APPROVE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANK YOU, KELLY.

>> PLEASE DON'T APPROVE THIS.

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>> MICHAEL PASS.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL PASS.

I'M THE L3 HARRIS REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH FLAGSTAFF.

I WAS THE MOTOROLA REPRESENTATIVE TO NORTHERN ARIZONA IN FLAGSTAFF FOR YEARS.

I WAS THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT SOLD THE ORIGINAL P16 SYSTEM TO NAU AND THEN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF JOINED.

I WAS THE REGIONAL MANAGER WHEN THE CURRENT P25 SYSTEM WAS INITIALLY SOLD TO NAU AND CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

I WAS WORKING AT CREATIVE COMMUNICATIONS AFTER I RETIRED FROM MOTOROLA WHEN WE DID THE UPGRADE THAT LINKED ASU, NAU, FLAGSTAFF AND THE UVA.

SO VERY FAMILIAR WITH CITY FLAGSTAFF AND THE SYSTEM THAT YOU'RE ON.

SYSTEM THAT'S ON IS THE P25 SYSTEM.

IS A PRODUCT 25 SYSTEM THAT WAS STANDARDIZED UNDER THE ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION OFFICERS.

THE TENANT OF P25 WAS TO CREATE COMPETITION TO DRIVE THE PRICE OF RADIOS DOWN FOR THE USERS.

IF YOU DON'T [NOISE] UTILIZE THE SPIRIT OF THE SYSTEM TO GO OUT TO BID OR TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL QUOTES FOR THE SYSTEM, THEN YOU'RE STUCK PAYING THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE PRICE TO MOTOROLA.

PUT IT OUT TO RFP.

WHEN IT'S PUT TO RFP, IT ADDS COMPETITION.

THERE'LL BE MULTIPLE VENDORS THAT THEY BID ON IT.

YOU'LL GET THE RADIO THAT YOU SPEC.

BASED UPON THE PRICING THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE ADDENDUMS, THE PRICE THAT WE GAVE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS ALMOST A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS LESS THAN WHAT'S THE PRICE OF THIS.

STAY LOCAL, BUY LOCAL. DO AN RFP.

NILES COMMUNICATION IS A CHANNEL PARTNER FOR L3 HARRIS.

THEY REPRESENT L3 HARRIS IN NORTHERN ARIZONA.

THEY'RE ONE OF OUR BEST CHANNEL PARTNERS.

WERE JUST ASKING FOR A CHANCE TO COMPETE.

WE'RE ASKING FOR A CHANCE TO KEEP THE BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND IN YOUR TAX COFFERS.

I'D LIKE TO RESERVE THE CHANCE IF ANYBODY SAYS ANYTHING FROM WHAT I'VE SAID.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

STAFF, IS THERE INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH US REGARDING THIS?

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MARK WILSON, I'M DEPUTY CHIEF OF ADMINISTRATION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS AS WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS.

THERE ARE SOME EXTREME TECHNOLOGICAL KNOWLEDGE IN THE ROOM THAT JUST CAME FORWARD, AND WE'VE TRUSTED THEM FOR YEARS, FOR DECADES IN FACT.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS PROCESS.

CAN YOU MOVE THE MICROPHONE CLOSER? YEAH, YOU BET. SORRY. IS THAT BETTER? WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS PROCESS, IT REALLY CAME DOWN TO TWO COMPETITIVE TYPE RADIOS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE WILL HAVE TO SPEAK ON THEIR OWN.

WHAT WE LOOKED AT WAS THE L3 HARRIS, THE TWO THAT CAME TO THE TOP WAS THE L3 HARRIS, WHICH NOW SELLS, AND ALSO THE MOTOROLA 8000, WHICH IS THE NEWER VERSION OF THE MODEL WE HAVE NOW OF MOTOROLA THAT THEY SPOKE ABOUT, THAT THEY SOLD TO US 7, 8 YEARS AGO.

IN THAT STUDY, WE GAVE 4-6 MONTHS DEPENDING ON WHICH STATION IT WAS.

WE PUT THESE RADIOS IN THE HANDS OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS OUT IN THE FIELD; DAILY USED, FUNCTIONALITY TESTED THEM, EASE, DURABILITY, JUST TO GET FEEDBACK.

THAT'S PART OF OUR PROCESS FOR OUR TEAM IS TO IDENTIFY WHICH ONE OF THESE IS THE BEST SUITED FOR OUR JOB THAT WE DO.

WE WEREN'T LOOKING AT THE COST AT THAT MOMENT.

WE WERE LOOKING AT WHICH ONE OF THESE, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE IN COMMUNICATION MODEL AND PUBLIC SAFETY, COMMUNICATION IS KEY.

WE ASKED THEM FOR THEIR INPUT AFTER 4-6 MONTHS OF FIELD STUDIES, THE OVERWHELMING RESPONSE.

THIS WASN'T A PROJECT THAT WAS OVER UNNECESSARILY, THE OVERWHELMING RESPONSE WAS IN FAVOR OF THE MOTOROLA RADIO.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE AS STAFF, THAT'S WHEN I STEPPED IN, TAKE THAT DIRECTION FROM THE LINE AND WE MOVED THAT FORWARD INTO THE NEXT PHASE OF ACQUIRING AND PURCHASING THE RADIO THAT IS PREFERRED AND TRYING TO GET THE BEST PRICE FOR IT.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO A PURCHASING PROCUREMENT AND I'LL TURN THAT OVER TO MISS EMILY.

COLLECTIVELY, OURSELVES, PD, PUBLIC WORKS, WE ALL GOT IN A ROOM AND HAD DIALOGUE.

AFTER WE HAD DONE OUR TEST, WE COMMUNICATED WHERE WE FELT THE BEST AND MOST APPROPRIATE RADIO WAS.

THE OVERWHELMING RESPONSE IN THAT ROOM WAS ALSO IN FAVOR OF MOTOROLA.

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THAT'S WHAT DROVE EMILY TO BRING INTO THE PROCESS, THE PURCHASING OF THE MOTOROLA RADIO.

TO GO BACK TO THE POINTS OF, ARE THERE ADDITIONS IN THIS RADIO THAT MAYBE WE MIGHT NOT NEED IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.

THAT COULD BE VERY TRUE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET TO THE END OF THE NEED FOR A PHASE 2 TRUNKING.

PROBABLY NOT WHERE YOU HAVE TO SPLIT SOME OF THOSE ENCRYPTION.

THE COMMENT OF ENCRYPTION OR SWAP METRICS ARE TYPICALLY THE ONLY ONES THAT USE ENCRYPTED RADIOS.

WHEN WE HAD ALL OF THEM ENCRYPTED TO GIVE US THE ABILITY TO NOT ONE WAS ASSIGNED.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ON THE RADIO AS WELL? THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT.

BUT WE FELT LIKE THE OVERALL PACKAGE THAT WE HAD PUT TOGETHER GAVE US THE BEST RADIO THAT WAS INTERCHANGEABLE AMONGST SOME OF OUR PERSONNEL AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

WE HAVE A 100 RADIOS THAT WE ORDERED, PORTABLES.

WE HAVE RIGHT NOW 91 FIREFIGHTERS.

SO EACH OF THOSE SEATS ON THOSE UNITS ARE ASSIGNED.

IT'S NOT ONE PER FIREFIGHTER ANY LONGER.

THAT WAS THE OLD WAY.

THE NEW WAY IS HOW MANY SEATS ARE ON THAT PIECE OF APPARATUS, WHETHER IT'S A FALL RISK, FIRE ENGINE, WHETHER IT'S BATTALION CHIEF RIG, WHETHER IT'S A WILDLAND RIG, IT HAS THE CAPACITY TO HOLD MULTIPLE RADIOS.

THEN WE ALSO BRING RADIOS OUT TO THE TRAINING CENTER FOR TRAINING FOR EASE AND USE AND DURABILITY.

WE DON'T HAVE EXTRA RADIO SITTING ALL AROUND.

THERE IS A CORRECT STATEMENT THAT WE DID LOAN OUT RADIOS IN THE PAST OF OUR LAST CASH OF RADIOS TO OUR PARTNERS SO THAT WE CAN ALL COMMUNICATE ON THE SAME PAGE.

THAT WAS FUNCTIONAL.

MOST OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS HAVE ALL GOT THEIR OWN 800S NOW, AND SO WE'VE COLLECTED THOSE BACK.

SO THERE WAS VALIDITY AND WE FELT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE ON A WORKING INCIDENT AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

I'LL JUST PAUSE THERE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ON THE OPERATIONAL AND THE TESTING PROCESS.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT INSTALLATION.

IS THAT INCLUDED IN THIS CONTRACT OR WILL THAT BE A SEPARATE ITEM? THAT IS NOT INCLUDED. THERE ARE NO COSTS ON INSTALLATION BECAUSE CURRENTLY, ANYTHING WE DO ON INSTALLATION, WE TAKE TO NILES.

THAT'S HOW WE'VE HAD THAT AGREEMENT IN THE PAST AND WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST WHERE MOTOROLA, THEY WERE NO LONGER MOTOROLA VENDORS, BUT WE STILL HAVE THEM INSTALL OUR RADIOS INTO OUR TRUCKS, STILL HAVE THEM INSTALLED OUR CHARGERS.

SO THE SAME CONCEPT WAS GOING DOWN THE PATH OF THEIR VENDOR THAT DOES OUR LOCAL WORK HERE.

THAT'S HOW THE PROCESS HAS WORKED FOR YEARS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE'LL GET TO COMMENTS.

BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER STAFF? EMILY.

I HEARD EMILY MENTIONED.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

I'M EMILY MARK HALE, PROCUREMENT SPECIALIST FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

I WAS TASKED BY THIS GROUP TO HANDLE THE PROCUREMENT OF RADIOS.

THEY PROVIDED WITH ME WHAT THEY NEEDED SPECIFICALLY.

WITH THAT, I WENT OUT AND LOOKED FOR A PROPER COOPERATIVE TO UTILIZE TO GET US THE BEST PRICING POSSIBLE FOR THE RADIOS THAT WERE BEING REQUESTED.

THIS IS FOR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, PUBLIC WORKS, PROS, PUBLIC SAFETY.

IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT PROCUREMENT?

>> GO AHEAD, COUNCIL. VICE MAYOR.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. IT'S GENERALLY ANYBODY CAN TAKE A STAB AT THE CITY WITH THIS.

I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR FOUR-PLUS YEARS NOW AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I FELT THIS SURPRISED BY ONE OF THESE AGENDA ITEMS. I'M JUST WONDERING IF OTHERS WITHIN THE CITY ARE FEELING SURPRISED OR CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY THIS.

IF YOU WOULD AGREE THAT IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO TABLE THIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE SO WE CAN REALLY GET OUR DUCKS IN A ROW AND CONSIDER THIS MORE LEVEL-HEADEDLY.

I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD FROM OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS SO FAR.

A LOT OF GOOD THINGS TO CONSIDER THERE, ESPECIALLY COST-SAVINGS AND ALSO JUST SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.

THESE THINGS WEIGH HEAVILY ON ME AND I'M JUST GENERALLY FAIRLY CONFUSED BY THE TENOR OF THIS CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW.

I'M SURE WE ALL ARE.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE, BUT THIS IS A BIT SURPRISING TO ME.

I THINK TAKING A STEP BACK MIGHT BE THE APPROPRIATE COURSE OF ACTION.

OF COURSE, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY NEEDS TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN TROUBLE OR ANYTHING.

IT'S VERY OBVIOUS TO ME THAT THIS IS

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A EXTREMELY TECHNICAL MATTER AND I'M NOT PREPARED TO GET IN THE WEEDS ON IT.

I THINK WE TAKE FOR GRANTED OUR RADIO SERVICE IN ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE THAT WE HAVE, AND WE DON'T REALLY STOP TO CONSIDER HOW INCREDIBLY COMPLEX ALL OF THESE SYSTEMS ARE AND HOW THEY INTERPLAY WITH EACH OTHER AND THE TECHNOLOGY INVOLVED.

I'M JUST READING THE TEMPERATURE IN THE ROOM AND I JUST WANT TO BE VERY RESPECTFUL OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENTERS COMING IN, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER BACKGROUND ON HOW THIS CONVERSATION, WHAT'S HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES, AND MAYBE DIDN'T GET QUITE HEADED OFF AT THE PAST THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE, I'D APPRECIATE THAT.

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, IF I MAY MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.

CERTAINLY, THE RADIO CONVERSATION HERE AT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF EARLY ON, A COUPLE OF RETREATS AGO, WE'D IDENTIFIED THE NEED, AND CERTAINLY, THAT WAS COMMUNICATED.

AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I CAN'T SPEAK BECAUSE OF THE IMPROMPTU NATURE OF THIS.

I HAVEN'T CONSULTED WITH MY COLLEAGUES BUT I WILL JUST TELL YOU THAT IF A CONTINUANCE TO ALLOW US TO I'S ARE DOTTED AND THE T'S ARE CROSSED, AND PERHAPS WORK WITH A VALUED COMMUNITY VENDOR THAT WE'VE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH A LONG TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL CHANGE THE OUTCOME.

OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FROM THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE'LL USE THEM AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

THEY HAVE ASSISTED US IN TELLING US WHAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM TO DO THEIR JOBS.

PROCUREMENT, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REEVALUATE OUR PROCUREMENT, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH CITY PROCUREMENT, AND DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

BUT IT IS HIGHLY REGULAR FOR US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF COOPERATIVES TO ACHIEVE THE PURCHASE, PUT THE COMMODITY IN OUR HANDS A LITTLE FASTER.

IN OUR VIEW, IT IS HIGHLY APPROPRIATE IN THESE CASES.

BUT ABSOLUTELY, IF IT MAKES THE COUNCIL MORE COMFORTABLE AND IN RESPECT FOR A VENDOR THAT'S BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME, CERTAINLY HAPPY TO SLOW THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

>> THANK YOU, CHIEF. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. SOLOMON.

IF WE TOOK A MOTION, WOULD IT BE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION TO A FUTURE MEETING?

>> YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE, BUT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE WITHIN ONE WEEK THAT UNDER OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE OR YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE, WHICH WOULD BE MORE IN GENERAL.

IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK NEXT WEEK, AND YOU COULD ASK STAFF TO EXPLORE OTHER OPTIONS IN THE MEANTIME.

>> WHAT'S COUNCIL THINKING?

>> IF I MAY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WHAT I MEANT TO SAY IS A MOTION TO POSTPONE WOULD ALLOW IT TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE, A MOTION TO TAKE WAS VERY SPECIFIC.

>> THANK YOU. RUFAST.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M VERY EAGER TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS GIVEN THAT I KNOW YOUR TECHNICAL BACKGROUND.

I'M ALSO WONDERING IF A BIT OF AN E-SESSION MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE HERE.

JUST IN TERMS OF SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT PROCUREMENT AND THE RFP PROCESS IN GENERAL.

I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

I'M GENERALLY RELUCTANT TO GO UNDER E-SESSION FOR SOME OF THE REASONS WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON.

BUT JUST TRYING TO THINK THROUGH THIS AND THE RIGHT PLACE TO GET SOME OF THOSE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THINGS OUT OF THE WAY.

THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU, MR. MCCARTHY, AS WELL.

>> MADAM MAYOR, AND MR. VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL, AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THIS POINT CAN ONLY BE FOR LEGAL ADVICE, JUST AS IT WAS LAST WEEK.

THAT SAID, IF YOU WANTED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON IT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PUT TOGETHER FOR A MORE BROAD CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND LEGAL ADVICE, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW ON THE SPOT.

I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT.

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, I WASN'T SUGGESTING WE GO ON THE E SESSION AT THE MOMENT.

>>THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DO WANT TO HEAR JIM'S COMMENTS, BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE WEIGHING HEAVY ON ME IS I KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RADIOS FOR FIRE AND POLICE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, AND I KNOW THAT THAT IS A BIG NECESSITY, BUT I ALSO HAVE MANY OF THE SAME CONCERNS THAT THE VICE MAYOR EXPRESSED IN OUR LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY, CONTINUES TO GET HIT WITH BLOW AFTER BLOW OF THINGS THAT MAKE IT CHALLENGING TO BE SUCCESSFUL HERE AND EMPLOY OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS.

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I DO WANT TO COME TO A POINT WHERE I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THE DECISION, EVEN IF IT ENDS UP THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO INCLUDE A LOCAL VENDOR TO BID ON THIS ON AN RFP WAS FOR VERY CLEAR REASONS, AND THEN WEIGHING THE OPTIONS OF USING A LOCAL VENDOR TO HELP SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'RE ALL ABOUT SHOPPING LOCALLY AND MAN, IT'S JUST ONE BLOW AFTER ANOTHER.

I WOULD REALLY WANT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING AND SOMETIMES WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING BUT DOING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL BUSINESS.

I'M NOT GOING TO MOVE YET BECAUSE I WANT JIM TO TALK.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER.

>> [NOISE] THANK YOU, MARY, AND THANK YOU, LORI.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

DO THESE RADIOS GET PAID OUT OF JUST ONE BIG LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET OR IS THE RADIOS CHARGED TO THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL BE USING THEM?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, I CAN ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.

I'M SHANNON ANDERSON, SENIOR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR THOSE WHO I MIGHT NOT KNOW.

BUDGET IS MOST OF THESE GROUPS OUT OF GENERAL FUNDS.

POLICE AND FIRE ARE GENERAL FUND, PUBLIC WORKS, IF IT'S GOING TO STREETS, FOR INSTANCE, WOULD BE PAID BY HALF.

IF THERE ARE THINGS GOING TO FACILITIES THAT WOULD BE PAID BY GENERAL FUND.

IT FOLLOWS BASICALLY THE GROUP AND WHAT THEIR FUNDING MECHANISM IS.

SOME WILL BE ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND SOME WILL BE GENERAL FUND, JUST AS WE DO FOR PERSONNEL.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE. I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE DOING THE ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL HERE AS OPPOSED TO IT MAY BE THAT DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS.

MAYBE ONE SIZE FITS ALL IS THE BEST APPROACH, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK WE NEED TO THINK THAT THROUGH.

CONSIDERING THAT THIS PURCHASE IS OVER 2.1 MILLION DOLLARS, I THINK IT REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT MORE.

OVERSIGHT, A LITTLE MORE TAKE A SECOND LOOK IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN ARE THE NUMBER OF RADIOS BEING ORDERED BY EACH DEPARTMENT, ARE THOSE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE DEPARTMENTS, WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE? I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING THAT THAT'S REALLY TRUE.

I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION YET, BUT I DO THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL STAFF HAS A CHANCE TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT IT.

I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW. THANK YOU.

>> WE HAVE TWO MORE COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEN I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO WANT SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING THERE IN PERSON.

I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TENURE OF THIS CONVERSATION.

I WOULD FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE COULD JUST STOP RIGHT NOW AND HE SAID POSTPONE BECAUSE I'M FEELING THAT PEOPLE MAY BE FEELING A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE.

OUR GOAL IS NOT TO EVER MAKE OUR STAFF FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.

IT REALLY IS TO GET ANSWERS TO SOME QUESTIONS.

I THINK THAT PROBABLY JUST DOING A MOTION NOW TO POSTPONE AND THEN WE CAN SIT AND TALK WITH WHOEVER WE NEED TO TALK WITH TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OR PRESENTATION OF WHY STAFF WENT IN THE DIRECTION THAT THEY WENT IN.

BECAUSE IT'S TWO MILLION DOLLARS AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE TAKING THAT LIGHTLY.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

IN MY MIND, THERE MUST HAVE BEEN SOME TYPE OF A REASON FOR THAT AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY.

[OVERLAPPING] I'M NOT DONE YET, MAYOR.

I'M SORRY. [LAUGHTER] CAN I CONTINUE?

>> YES, PLEASE. I'M SORRY.

>> THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO JUST CALM DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS AND GO AHEAD AND DO A MOTION AND IF JIM WANTS TO DO THAT, THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M DONE NOW.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

COUNCIL MEMBER, SWEET.

>> THANK YOU. I'LL TRY AND MAKE THIS FAST.

I DO TRUST THAT OUR STAFF KNOWS WHAT IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE RADIO.

HOWEVER, I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW HOW MUCH I VALUE OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.

WE NEED TO SUPPORT THEM WHEN WE CAN.

I'VE SPOKEN TO THIS MANY TIMES IN THE PAST AND WILL STATE IT AGAIN TONIGHT.

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IT IS APPROPRIATE TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND POSTPONE THIS FOR A FUTURE DISCUSSION AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

YES, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> QUICK COMMENT FIRST.

WHAT I'D BE INTERESTED IN IF WE DO POSTPONE THIS IS THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

I KNOW WE HAVE RULES AND MAYBE THERE'S REASONS IN THIS CASE THAT WE DON'T FOLLOW THOSE RULES.

I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER NOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

I MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE THIS UNTIL STAFF CAN GET BACK TO US AND GIVE US A MORE THOROUGH DISCUSSION OF THE ISSUE.

THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANK YOU. WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT PLEASE, VICE MAYOR?

>> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

NOT FOR DISCUSSION, I'LL JUST SAY THAT I'VE ALREADY ASKED STAFF TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL REGARDING THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THESE CAN HAPPEN SIMULTANEOUSLY, BUT IF THEY CAN GREAT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, STAFF AND THANK YOU TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENTERS.

[A. Consideration and Approval of Contract: An Energy Efficiency Services Job Order Contract with NORESCO, LLC; and Construction Work Order No. 1 with NORESCO, LLC, in an amount not to exceed $4,423,547, for Phase One of Project Implementation. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Award an Energy Efficiency Services Job Order Contract with NORESCO, LLC; Award Construction Work Order No. 1 with NORESCO, LLC, in an amount not to exceed $4,423,547, for Phase One of Project Implementation; and Authorize the City Manager to execute all necessary documents. ]

MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 9, ROUTINE ITEMS. WE HAVE A CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF CONTRACT AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY SERVICES, JOB ORDER CONTRACT WITH NORESCO LLC AND CONSTRUCTION WORK ORDER NUMBER 1 WITH NORESCO LLC AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 4,423,547 FOR PHASE 1 OF PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION. HELLO.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS, SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR, BEAR WITH ME FOR A SECOND AS I BATTLE WITH POWERPOINT. THANK YOU.

HERE WE GO. WE'RE ALL HAVING PROBLEMS. [LAUGHTER].

THANKS, STANLEY.

IT'S ALL ABOUT GROUP EFFORTS.

[LAUGHTER] GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AGAIN.

NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS, SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR.

I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO BRING FORWARD CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL FOR A JOB ORDER CONTRACT WITH NORESCO LLC AND A CONSTRUCTION WORK ORDER NUMBER 1.

I'M JOINED TODAY BY THE ARIZONA BASE NORESCO TEAM, MCCATHLEEN KROSNICK, AARON HART, WHO IS WITH US ON THE PHONE, AND RICHARD SEIFERT.

BUT BEFORE I BEGIN THE PRESENTATION THIS AFTERNOON, I'D REALLY LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK ALL THE STAFF AND EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO ALL THE FOLKS WHO WORKED TO BRINGING THIS PROJECT FORWARD.

IT WAS A HEAVY LIFT OVER THE LAST YEAR.

I KNOW A NUMBER OF THOSE FOLKS ARE IN THE ROOM TONIGHT, BUT SPECIFICALLY, SHOUT OUT TO THE STAFF AND FACILITIES, TO WATER SERVICES, PROS, SUSTAINABILITY, FINANCE, PROCUREMENT, AND LEGAL.

THIS PROJECT TRULY IS A COLLABORATION ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION.

OUR DISCUSSION THIS AFTERNOON, WE'LL ADDRESS A BRIEF REFRESHER ON THE ENERGY SAVINGS CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH NORESCO, HIGHLIGHTS OF THE WORK ORDER BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION, A FINANCIAL OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND A CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE IF THIS IS APPROVED.

FOR SOME BACKGROUND, IN NOVEMBER OF 2021, AFTER A FORMAL SOLICITATION PROCESS, NORESCO WAS AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO CONDUCT AN INVESTMENT-GRADE AUDIT, ALSO KNOWN IN THEIR WORLD AS AN IGA, BUT NOT OURS, WHICH LED TO MANY HILARIOUS MOMENTS WHILE SPEAKING WITH PROCUREMENT AND LEGAL AND THE NORESCO TEAM.

BUT THEY WERE AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO CONDUCT THIS AUDIT OF CITY FACILITIES AND PROPOSE ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES AS A RESULT OF THAT AUDIT.

THE AUDIT IDENTIFIED NUMEROUS OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCIES AND ADDRESS A FEW DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PROJECTS IN THREE PHASES.

STARTING WITH BUILDING ENERGY EFFICIENCY,

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THEN MOVING TO SMART WATER METER INSTALLATION, AND THEN WRAPPING UP WITH WASTEWATER UPGRADES.

STAFF WORKED DILIGENTLY TO DEVELOP A LIST OF PRIORITIZED ENERGY EFFICIENCY MEASURES FOR WORK ORDER NUMBER 1 THAT ALIGNED WITH FACILITY NEEDS, MADE ECONOMIC SENSE, AND MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TOWARDS CLIMATE ACTION.

WORK ORDER NUMBER 1 HAS OVER $4.4 MILLION IN FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS.

AS AS I NOTED, ADDRESSED SOME CRITICAL DEFERRED MAINTENANCE NEEDS.

UPGRADES WILL SPAN FROM LIGHTING TO ENERGY MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS AND MORE AND I'LL HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THOSE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

THEY'LL ALSO INCLUDE NEW CHARGING STATIONS TO SUPPORT THE CITY'S ELECTRIC FLEET AND ALSO PROVIDE MORE THAN $8 MILLION IN GUARANTEED SAVINGS, WHICH I WILL SPEAK TO ALSO IN THIS PRESENTATION.

IF THE CITY MOVES FORWARD WITH ALL THREE PHASES, THE MEASURES WILL REDUCE FLAGSTAFF'S MUNICIPAL CARBON EMISSIONS BY AN ADDITIONAL 30%.

LET'S DIVE INTO THE HIGHLIGHTS.

THERE WILL BE MECHANICAL UPGRADES OVER 6,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, ALSO KNOWN AS WEATHERIZATION IMPROVEMENTS.

OVER 5,000 INTERIOR AND 6,000 EXTERIOR LIGHT FIXTURES WILL BE UPGRADED TO LED AND AN EXAMPLE OF OUTDOOR LIGHTING UPGRADES IS ON THE RIGHT-HAND PART OF THIS SLIDE.

THEY WILL BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT.

WE WILL INCORPORATE SEVEN ELECTRICAL VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, WHICH WILL ALLOW UP TO 14 VEHICLES TO CHARGE.

THERE WILL BE SOME RATE SWITCH FOR OPTIMAL SAVINGS AND THEN UPGRADES TO IRRIGATION WITH 20 NEW WEATHER BASED CONTROLLERS.

THEN ADVANCED METER INFRASTRUCTURE WATER METER TESTING PILOT, WHICH WILL INFORM PHASE 2 IF THE CITY DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD.

WORK ORDER NUMBER 1 WILL ADDRESS CONSERVATION MEASURES AT A NUMBER OF CITY FACILITIES, AND THESE ARE INCLUDED ON THE SLIDE.

FOR THE SAKE OF TIME AND YOUR ATTENTION, I WILL NOT READ EVERY FACILITY, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS A WIDE BREADTH OF FACILITIES WITHIN OUR PORTFOLIO.

NOW, SHIFTING TO THE FINANCIAL FRAMEWORK.

THE BUDGET TEAM DECIDED TO FINANCE WORK ORDER NUMBER 1 WITH CASH RATHER THAN PURCHASING DEBT SERVICE.

THIS WILL ALLOW LONG-TERM AVOIDANCE OF INTEREST ON DEBT SERVICE AND FOR THE CITY TO REALIZE DIRECT SAVINGS FASTER.

THE NEXT TWO SLIDES, I'LL BREAK DOWN THE FINANCIAL PACKAGE.

HERE WE SEE THE PROJECTS FOR YEAR 1 SAVINGS AND ANNUAL REDUCTIONS IN METRIC TONS OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE COSTS ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER 4.4 MILLION WITH A YEAR 1 SAVINGS OF JUST OVER $224,000 IN REDUCTIONS IN 928 METRIC TONS OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.

NOW PUTTING THIS INTO CONTEXT, LET'S LOOK AT THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THE PROJECT.

OVER 25 YEARS, THERE SHOULD BE UTILITY SAVINGS OF $8 MILLION.

OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE SAVINGS OF OVER $335,000.

THEN WE HAVE A GUARANTEED SAVINGS OF $8.3 MILLION, WHICH I'LL SPEAK TO IN JUST A MOMENT.

WE DO HAVE SOME MEASUREMENT AND VERIFICATION SERVICES ALSO INCLUDED AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN THE FAR RIGHT-HAND CORNER THE NET CASH VALUE.

THE HIGHLIGHTED NUMBERS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN ARE REALLY THE IMPORTANT POINTS IN THIS SLIDE.

I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GUARANTEED SAVINGS AND THIS IS A RESPONSIBILITY FOR NORESCO.

THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO PAY IN THE EVENT OF AN ENERGY SAVINGS SHORTFALL AND MUST GUARANTEE THAT ENERGY SAVINGS IF ACTUAL SAVINGS ARE LOWER THAN GUARANTEED IN ANY GIVEN YEAR.

NORESCO WOULD REIMBURSE THE CITY ON BEHALF OF THAT SHORTFALL.

THERE'S ALSO AN ELEMENT OF GUARANTEED PERFORMANCE.

NORESCO INSTALLS EQUIPMENT THAT IS GUARANTEED TO GENERATE THESE SAVINGS FOR THE PAYBACK PERIOD SPECIFIED.

IF A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FAILS DURING THE PAYBACK PERIOD OF THE PROJECT, NORESCO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR REPLACING IT.

I'LL JUST SIT HERE FOR A MOMENT ON THIS SLIDE.

THERE'S A LOT OF DATA POINTS.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND NICOLE, THANK YOU FOR THIS.

IT'S A LOT TO ABSORB, SO I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH.

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ON THE UTILITY SAVINGS.

IS IT FACTORED IN RATE INCREASES ON ELECTRICITY?

>> THERE IS AN ESCALATOR BUILT-IN, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO DEFER TO THE NORESCO TEAM FOR SPECIFIC DATA POINTS.

>> THEN I'LL GET TO SOME OF THESE AT THE END.

BUT WITH NORESCO GUARANTEEING SAVINGS OR PAYING THAT BACK, DID WE DO ANY DIVING INTO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OR THEIR CAPACITY TO HONOR THOSE PAYBACKS AND IF WE DON'T REALIZE THE SAVINGS, DO THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MATCH THAT?

>> GREAT. LET ME GO AHEAD AND HAND THIS OFF TO THE REST OF THE TEAM.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.

>> HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, HIGH COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, KATHY KRASENICS NORESCO.

TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF YOUR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FIRST OF ALL, THE ESCALATOR, I THINK YOU'D SAID WITH THAT WE'RE VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THE ESCALATOR.

TYPICALLY, UTILITY RATES IN ARIZONA GO UP QUITE A BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE ESTIMATED WOULD BE THE RATE IN HERE.

WE ALWAYS TRY TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE WITH OUR NUMBERS.

WE BASICALLY UNDER PROMISE AND OVER-DELIVER ON THE PROJECT.

IN TERMS OF WHO NORESCO IS, WE'RE A DIVISION OF CARRIER CORPORATION.

WE DEFINITELY HAVE AS A NATIONAL CORPORATION BASED OUT OF FLORIDA AND THEN WE HAVE OUR LOCAL OFFICES HERE WHERE I WORK AND WHERE OUR WHOLE TEAM WORKS ON THIS PROJECT.

WE DEFINITELY HAVE THE FINANCIAL FOUNDATION TO BACKSTOP ALL OF OUR GUARANTEES.

WE WORK WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON A LOT OF PROJECTS.

WE WORK WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS, CITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

YOU COULD DEFINITELY RELY ON US TO GUARANTEE THE GUARANTEES.

DID THAT HELP? ANYONE?

>> SURE.

>> HELLO, COUNCIL, MAYOR. RICH SEIFERT.

WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

CARRIER HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 100 YEARS AND WE HAVE OVER $5 BILLION IN ENERGY SAVINGS GUARANTEES RIGHT NOW.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

MOVING ON. IF WORK ORDER NUMBER 1 IS APPROVED, THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS THE TIMELINE WHICH SIMPLY STATES THAT THE NORESCO TEAM IS READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND GIVEN THE MOST RECENT UNITED NATION'S SIXTH ASSESSMENT REPORT, THAT JUST CAME OUT, WHICH UNDERSCORES THE URGENCY OF TAKING AMBITIOUS ACTION TO SECURE A LEVEL OF FUTURE FOR ALL, WE ARE READY TO TAKE THAT COMMITMENT SERIOUSLY.

GOING INTO MORE DETAIL ON THIS CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO SEPARATE CONSTRUCTION PHASES.

THE FIRST WE'LL ADDRESS THE INTERIOR OR EXTERIOR LIGHTING, WEATHERIZATION, CHARGING STATIONS, IRRIGATIONS, AND SO FORTH WOULD BE COMPLETED APPROXIMATELY SEPTEMBER THROUGH NOVEMBER OF 2023 AND THEN IN THE SPRING OF '24, WE WILL WORK ON THE MAJOR MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT INSTALLATION AND UPDATES IN ANY REMAINING PROJECTS.

IN CLOSING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS PROJECT INCLUDES A LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY.

WE WILL WORK WITH NORESCO TO HAVE A REAL-TIME DATA POINT GIS SITE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHAT WORK IS BEING COMPLETED AND HOW EFFICIENT WE ARE BEING WITH THE TIME MANAGEMENT ON THE CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS THE IMPACTS OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING COMPLETED.

WITH THAT, WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MATHEWS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. [NOISE] NICOLE, I'LL JUST USE A VERY SIMPLE EXAMPLE.

IF I HAVE AN INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULB AND I TAKE IT OUT, AND I PUT IT IN A LED, I'M GOING TO SAVE POWER TO GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF LIGHT.

BUT IF I JUST THROW OUT THAT INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULB THAT STILL HAVE LIFE IN IT, SOMETIMES THAT MAY NOT BE COST-EFFECTIVE.

THEN THE OTHER THING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS HOW MUCH ENERGY IT TAKES TO MANUFACTURE THE LED.

THERE'S A TRADE-OFF THERE.

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I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HAVE WE TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOUNT OR ARE WE JUST LOOKING AT THE ENERGY SAVINGS AND IGNORING THE COST, BOTH MONEY-WISE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY OF TAKING SOMETHING THAT'S STILL OPERATIONAL, THROWING IT AWAY, AND REPLACING IT WITH SOMETHING THAT TAKES ENERGY AND RESOURCES? I THINK YOU GET THE GIST TO MY QUESTION.

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I'LL BEGIN TO ANSWER THAT, AND IF ANYONE FROM NORESCO TEAM WANTS TO JUMP IN, I'LL STEP ASIDE.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND SPECIFICALLY, TO LIGHTING.

THE CITY WENT THROUGH A LIGHTING UPGRADE OVERHAUL BACK IN 2004, AND FACILITY STAFF HAVE BEEN DOING AN AMAZING JOB AS THEY CAN TO UPDATE OUR LIGHTS.

IT'S NOT JUST AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY ELEMENT, IT'S A DARK SKIES ELEMENT.

IT'S ALSO A STAFF TIME ELEMENT.

WE KNOW THAT LEDS LAST LONGER, SO IT'S A SAVINGS NOT ONLY FROM ENERGY, IT'S A SAVINGS OF STAFF TIME AND MANAGEMENT.

AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD IN MY PRESENTATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALMOST 6,000 FIXTURES.

THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME AND/OR RESOURCES TO ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE IS OBVIOUSLY A HUGE CONSIDERATION.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BENEFITS, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CORE BENEFITS.

ALL THINGS HAVE AN EMBODIED IMPACT, ABSOLUTELY, AND WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT.

LIGHTING IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY, IT IS THE FINANCIAL GROUNDING BECAUSE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS SO QUICK WITH LIGHTING UPGRADES SO IT HAS A NUMBER OF PLUSES IN THE CORE BENEFIT CATEGORIES.

>> IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? [BACKGROUND] COME ON UP.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD QUESTION.

JUST TO TAG ONTO WHAT NICOLE SAID AT THE END, IS THAT THE ENERGY SAVINGS FROM USING THE LIGHT BULBS IS REALLY GOING TO GENERATE A LOT OF REVENUE THAT CAN NOW BE INVESTED INTO THE OTHER ECMS OR THE ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES THAT WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD.

AS FAR AS THE MANUFACTURING, YES, YOU'RE GOING TO BE THROWING AWAY MAYBE A BULB THAT WORKS, BUT THESE BULBS ARE CONSTANTLY GOING OUT AND HAVING TO BE REMANUFACTURED WHERE THE LIFESPAN OF LED BULB IS MUCH LONGER, AND THUS THE MANUFACTURING ENERGY TO PRODUCE THOSE IS LESS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MATHEWS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, SO DON'T SIT DOWN.

[LAUGHTER] I'M GOING TO JUMP AROUND A LITTLE BIT HERE.

IN THE PLAN IT TALKS ABOUT, YES HIM, TALKS ABOUT WHEN WE START REPLACING THE COMMERCIAL HEAT PUMPS.

I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS.

IS IT IN THE PLAN TO REPLACE OUR HEATING SYSTEM WITH AIR-TO-AIR HEAT PUMPS OR WATER-TO-AIR? THAT'S ONE QUESTION.

>> WE HAVE OUR ENGINEER.

HE COULDN'T COME IN BECAUSE OF THE STORM.

ONLINE AARON HART.

IF HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT, I WILL APPRECIATE IT.

>> AARON, ARE YOU THERE? I SEE YOUR BUBBLE.

>> I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> GREAT. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER MATHEWS QUESTION, BUT IF YOU DID, IF YOU WOULD HELP US. GREAT.

>> YES, I DID. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

THE QUICK AND EASY ANSWER IS YES, THEY ARE AIR-TO-AIR HEAT PUMPS.

I THINK ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS AND ONE OF THE DESIGN CHALLENGES THAT WE WORKED THROUGH THE MANY MONTHS WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS ISSUE WITH STAFF IS THE CONCERN THAT HEAT PUMPS, THE PERCEPTION AT LEAST IN THE PAST, IS THAT THEY DON'T WORK VERY WELL WHEN IT GETS COLD OUT.

THAT IS FUNDAMENTALLY CORRECT, THAT'S JUST THE LAWS OF PHYSICS.

AS A BACKSTOP, BASICALLY, WHEN THE DESIGN CONDITIONS GET LOWER, THE AMBIENT TEMPERATURE GETS LOWER, THE UNITS HAVE A FULLY REDUNDANT ELECTRIC STRIP HEAT IN THEM, SUCH THAT THE HEATING NEEDS OF THE BUILDING WILL NEVER BE COMPROMISED BY THE OUTSIDE AIR TEMPERATURE.

>> THANK YOU. THEN I DID SOME, AGAIN, RESEARCH, YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW THAT ABOUT ME.

NEW YORK DID A LOT OF CONVERSIONS AND THEY USED THE WATER-TO-AIR, AND THAT SEEMED TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN THEIR EXTREME WEATHER.

THE COMMERCIAL AIR-TO-AIR, WHAT MY LIMITED RESEARCH FOUND WAS [NOISE] THE LIFE EXPECTANCY IS ABOUT 15 YEARS, AND IN THIS PROPOSAL, OUR SAVINGS IN THIS INVESTMENT IS REALIZED OVER 20 YEAR PERIOD, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THAT,

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AND I'LL JUST RATTLE YOU SO YOU CAN MAKE ONE GENERAL COMMENT.

I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT APS INFRASTRUCTURE.

DURING THE STORMS, WE HAD 6,600 HOUSEHOLDS GO WITHOUT ELECTRICITY, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE IF ALL OF OUR CITY BUILDINGS WERE DOWN AND DIDN'T HAVE POWER FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.

I KNOW MAYBE APS CAN COME IN TO BRING US SOME ASSURANCE IN WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO MITIGATE THAT.

NOT JUST GOING TO CLEANER ENERGY, BUT HOW ARE THEY GOING TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T GO DOWN? ABOUT THE LED LIGHTS, IF WE CAN START IN HERE FIRST BECAUSE THESE FLUORESCENCE GIVE ME REALLY BAD HEADACHE.

[LAUGHTER] I APPRECIATE IT.

BUT THEN NICOLE, YOU MADE A COMMENT ON WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

MY QUESTION ON THAT REGARDS IS ON SOME OF THESE CONVERSIONS OVER TO ELECTRIFICATION, ARE THEY GOING TO JUST BE ON A TIMELINE OR WHEN THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF DIFFERENT FURNACES, BOILERS, AND STUFF GO OUT SO WE'RE NOT REPLACING THEM BEFORE THEIR LIFE EXPECTANCY? THEN PROBABLY, AND I MIGHT HAVE ONE MORE, BUT IT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION THE WATER METER TEST PILOT.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT'S STILL IN DEVELOPMENT STAGES? WE JUST GOT ELECTRIC BUS, AND OUR DIRECTOR IN MOUNTAIN LINE SAID THAT THE TECHNOLOGY FROM THE YEAR THAT THEY WAITED FOR THE BUS JUST CHANGED SO DRAMATICALLY.

THAT PIQUED MY ATTENTION WHEN HE SAID THIS IS A TEST PILOT AND ARE WE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES?

>> GREAT. I THINK I'LL START FROM THE LAST QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S THE FRESHEST IN MY MEMORY.

THEN OF COURSE, IF WE CAN TAG TEAM, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE THE NORESCO TEAM ARE THE EXPERTS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE FROM WATER SERVICES STILL HERE, FEEL FREE TO RUN ON UP.

BUT THE CITY HAS HAD ON ITS TO-DO LIST TO UPDATE RESIDENTIAL WATER METERS.

THIS IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING.

DID I SEE ANYONE? NO. THIS IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING, AND SO BUILDING THIS INTO THE NORESCO PROJECT FOR PHASE 2, IF WE ARE TO MOVE FORWARD, OF COURSE I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY ASSUMPTIONS, BUT MOVING FORWARD INTO PHASE 2, NORESCO IS PRIMED TO ASSIST THE CITY TO INSTALL THOSE WATER METERS.

THIS IS AGAIN A HUGE UNDERTAKING GIVEN THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL METERS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

THE TESTING OF THE WATER METERS IN PHASE 1 WILL INFORM GUARANTEED SAVINGS AND WILL INFORM WORKLOAD AND DELIVERY TIME FOR PHASE 2.

>> AARON COULD SPEAK TO THE NUMBERS [OVERLAPPING] AND THE TECHNOLOGY, BUT THE GUARANTEED SAVINGS FROM THE WATER METER IS NOT SHOWN IN THIS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE?

>> YEAH, I WAS JUST SAYING THAT WE WOULD LIKE AARON TO DISCUSS THE TECHNOLOGY AND WHERE WE ARE ON THE TESTING.

BUT WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THE SAVINGS FROM THE WATER METERS ARE NOT REFLECTED IN THIS SPREADSHEET.

>> YES. AARON, IF YOU COULD JOIN US.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> LIKE NICOLE SAID, THIS HAS BEEN ON THE DOCKET FOR THE CITY PROBABLY FOR THE BETTER PART OF A DECADE.

THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS OVER 20,000 WATER METERS THAT THE CITY STAFF ADMINISTERS.

IT'S A BIG NUMBER.

THE TESTING COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT IS PHASE 1 IS ONLY 179 METERS.

THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS WE'RE DOING IT THIS WAY.

ONE IS LEAD TIMES.

WE'RE SEEING UNPRECEDENTED LEAD TIMES AS FAR AS JUST GETTING THE EQUIPMENT.

THIS IS PART OF THE REASON WE'RE DOING THE WATER METER WORK IN NEXT YEAR, NOT THIS YEAR.

WE'D LOVE TO DO IT THIS YEAR.

THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS TO A WATER METER.

WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING TO THE CITY HAS ALREADY STARTED DOING THIS, BUT FUNDING HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.

WE'RE BASICALLY SWITCHING FROM ALL POSITIVE DISPLACEMENT METERS THAT USE BASICALLY THE FLOW OF WATER TO TURN THE METER.

IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO IS ULTRASONIC METERS THAT BASICALLY HAVE NO MOVING PARTS.

THEN THE ESTIMATED LIFE ON THOSE IS OBVIOUSLY MUCH LONGER BECAUSE THERE'S NO MOVING PARTS.

IT'S A MORE ACCURATE READ FROM THE MANUFACTURER.

THE TESTING COMPONENT IS TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH UNDER READING IS GOING ON, HOW MUCH NON BILLING IS HAPPENING FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT.

WE WANT TO QUANTIFY THAT AND EXTRAPOLATE IT TO THE REST OF THE CITY

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TO SEE IF THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE A FULL WATER METER REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S TWO PIECES TO A WATER METER.

THAT'S THE FIRST PART, THE PART THAT ACTUALLY MEASURES THE WATER.

THE SECOND PIECE IS THE ENCODER.

IT'S HOW THE WATER METER COMMUNICATES WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENTS BILLING SYSTEM.

RIGHT NOW THE CITY USES AN AMR SYSTEM.

BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS, IS A LITTLE ENCODER DEVICE THAT TAKES A SIGNAL FROM THE METER AND IT TRANSMITS IT OUT TO SOMETHING.

RIGHT NOW THE CITY, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY DRIVE AROUND IN TRUCKS AND THEY COLLECT ALL THAT DATA.

PART OF THIS TEST PILOT WILL BE TO SWITCH TO AN AMI.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE ACRONYMS. [LAUGHTER] THAT'S JUST THE ENGINEER IN ME. I APOLOGIZE.

BUT BASICALLY, THAT IS A STATIC RADIO BASED SYSTEM THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED TO DRIVE AROUND AND COLLECT THAT DATA.

IT WOULD JUST BE TRANSMITTED AT REGULAR INTERVALS.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S BETTER FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT THERE'S A FIRST COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

OUR PILOT IS TO REALLY EVALUATE ALL THOSE THINGS.

THE NICE THING ABOUT FUTURE-PROOFING THIS IS THAT THE ENCODERS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND THEN WE WORK WITH STAFF ON THE ONES THAT THEY LIKE.

THEY CAN WORK IN BOTH AMR AND AMI MODE.

BOTH COMPONENTS ARE VERY REPUTABLE AND THEY'D BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

>> HEY AARON, COULD YOU JUST MENTION THAT IF THE TEST IS SUCCESSFUL AND WHAT WE BELIEVE THE SAVINGS TO BE?

>> IT REALLY DEPENDS.

I DON'T REALLY WANT TO SPECULATE AT THIS POINT, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH THE METERS ARE UNDERREPORTING AT THIS POINT ANYWHERE FROM 2-3% UNDER IS NOT UNHEARD OF.

THAT COULD RESULT IN ANNUAL INCREASE REVENUE TO THE CITY.

THAT COULD PAY FOR RETROFITTING THE REMAINING AMR SYSTEM TO AMR.

>> BEFORE YOU GO ON TO [NOISE] OUR NEXT QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE HAS A QUESTION.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE AMI PILOT IF SINCE WE'RE ALREADY ON THAT TOPIC.

>> PLEASE.

>> YES. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE ON ALL OF THIS.

KATHY, YOU AND I MET LAST YEAR, I THINK, AND TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THIS, SO I APPRECIATE.

GETTING UP TO DATE WITH WHERE WE ARE NOW.

OVERALL, I LOVED THE PRESENTATION OF THIS AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS.

MY QUESTION SPECIFIC TO THE AMI PILOT IS, I GUESS MAYBE A CONCERN WITH JUST SEEING THE MOVE TOWARDS ELECTRIC METERS AND AUTOMATED METERS, PARTICULARLY IN STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA, WHERE WE SAW SOME OF THE CITIES THAT MADE THOSE CHANGES AND HAD MAJOR ISSUES.

ARE WE LOOKING AT WAYS TO BASICALLY ENSURE THAT THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN HERE IF WE MOVE INTO THAT MODEL OR BASICALLY HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE DON'T FACE THOSE SAME ISSUES?

>> I'M JUST CURIOUS WHICH ISSUES YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT REGARDING THE AMI METERS.

>> I BELIEVE IF I'M RECALLING CORRECTLY, AS CERTAIN CITIES IN CALIFORNIA, WERE MAKING THE SWITCH TO ELECTRIC METERS, THEY SAW A LOT OF ISSUES JUST WITH THE NUMBERS THAT WERE READ OUT OR DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT CAME UP WITHIN THOSE CITIES.

IT BECAME A QUESTION OF DO WE CONTINUE WITH THIS OR DO WE GO BACKWARDS? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO THOSE SAME ISSUES.

>> I KNOW THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF ON REALLY DELVING THROUGH ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT COULD COME UP WHETHER IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THE DATA IS TRANSFERRED CORRECTLY OR SOMETIMES IN CITIES THERE'S FOLKS THAT DON'T WANT TRANSMISSION COMING FROM THEIR HOMES, ARE GOING TO THEIR HOMES.

I KNOW THAT CITY STAFF HAS ALREADY TALKED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH THOSE PARTICULAR RESIDENCE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SUPPORT THEM ON FOR SURE.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO ISSUES THAT I KNOW ABOUT THAT COULD BE OF CONCERN OTHER THAN SINCE IT'S AMI TECHNOLOGY AND AARON CAN BACK ME UP ON THIS OR ADD ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO

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READ THE METERS IF THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE OR MOUNTAINS IN THE WAY OF WHERE THE TRANSMISSION IS BEING PICKED UP.

THAT COULD BE EASILY MITIGATED WITH ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF POINTS THAT WOULD PICK UP THAT DATA.

I KNOW WE HAVE WORKED A LOT WITH STAFF ON UNCHECKING ON ALL OF THOSE ITEMS FOR SURE.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT BENEFITS TO CUSTOMERS BECAUSE THEY GET TO SEE THEIR DATA IN REAL-TIME AND THE CITY CAN ACTUALLY PING THEM BACK.

IF, SAY, A TOILET IS OVERFLOWING AND THE CUSTOMERS AWAY ON VACATION, THE CITY COULD ACTUALLY EMAIL THEM OR TEXT THEM AND SAY, YOU HAVE A SUDDEN WATER LEAK GOING ON AND SOMEBODY CAN FIX IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR CUSTOMERS AND RESIDENTS THEMSELVES WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY.

AARON, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THING TO ADD THERE?

>> I THINK YOU HIT IT. THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES.

GETTING THE DEVICES TO TALK TO EACH OTHER AND GETTING INTO THE BILLING SOFTWARE.

WE TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY.

NOW IT'S INCUMBENT ON US, THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

THERE HAVE BEEN CHALLENGES IN THE PAST IN IMPLEMENTING THAT.

I THINK THE FACT THAT THIS IS A PILOT DOES DOES BENEFIT US.

WE GET A TEST CASE ON A VERY SMALL CROSS-SECTION OF METERS.

THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THOSE METERS ARE NOT IMPORTANT, BUT IT DOES HELP US WITH OUR BABY STEPS.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THOSE EXAMPLES AND DO SOME ANALYSIS OF WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES MAY BE EXPERIENCING.

AGAIN, WE ARE JUST IN THE PILOT PHASE WITH A FEW HUNDRED METERS.

IF WE DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASE 2, WE WILL ABSOLUTELY INCORPORATE WHAT WE'VE FOUND AND LESSONS LEARNED, WE BRING THAT FORWARD TO COUNCIL BEFORE CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU ALL. THAT WAS HELPFUL.

>> PLEASE. SORRY.

>> WE HAVE A GREAT FUTURE AT HER COMPANY WHICH WILL SUPPORT ALL PHASES OF THE PROJECT CALLED OR GO TEAM IT'S A GREEN OPERATIONS TEAM.

THEY'RE TASKED WITH COMMUNICATION, WHETHER THAT'S COMMUNICATION TO STAFF OR COMMUNICATION TO RESIDENTS ON CHANGES BASED ON THE NEW TECHNOLOGY.

THEY CAN CREATE A CAMPAIGN AND WORK WITH STAFF ON HOW TO BEST COMMUNICATE HOW THE NEW TECHNOLOGY WOULD WORK AND TO ADDRESS ANY STAFF CONCERNS OR ANY RESIDENT CONCERNS.

THEY'VE DONE DIFFERENT TYPES OF EVENTS LIKE WORKING WITH RESIDENTS, WHERE THE RESIDENTS COULD ACTUALLY COME AND VOTE OR BASICALLY TALK ABOUT THEIR OPINIONS OF THE TECHNOLOGY.

THEN OUR STAFF WOULD TAKE THAT ALL INTO CONSIDERATION AND CREATE A CAMPAIGN AROUND THAT BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS AND STAFF.

>> WE DO HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO TAP INTO OUR LOCAL APS WHEN THEY MOVE TO SMART METERS ABOUT, I BELIEVE 10 YEARS AGO AND SOME LESSONS LEARNED TOO VOCALLY.

IF I MAY, THAT'S A GREAT SEGUE, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO APS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO COORDINATE A WORK SESSION FOR THE COUNCIL.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION ABOUT HEAT PUMPS AND AIR TO AIR EXCHANGE AND THE LIFE EXPECTANCY.

AARON, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN ASSIST US WITH AS WELL?

>> YES. AIR TO AIR HEAT PUMPS ARE DEFINITELY LESS EFFICIENT AT LOWER TEMPERATURES.

THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND A NARRATIVE WATER HEAT PUMP IS THAT YOU HAVE SOME CONSTANT TEMPERATURE HEAT SINK THAT IS JUST MORE EFFICIENT HERE, IT'S LESS DIFFICULT TO GRAB HEAT OUT OF 40 DEGREE WATER VERSUS 10 DEGREE AIR.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SOURCE FOR THAT TEMPERATE WATER.

YOU'RE EITHER PUTTING IN GROUND SOURCE WELLS OR YOU HAVE OPEN SOURCE LIKE A POND.

BOTH OF THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE COSTLY THAN JUST A PACKAGED AIR TO AIR HEAT PUMP SYSTEM.

WE BASICALLY LOOKED AT THOSE EARLY ON AND IT DETERMINED THAT THOSE WERE NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE.

>> JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THE LIFE EXPECTANCY ON AIR TO AIR, I READ WAS 15 YEARS AND TO REALIZE THE COST SAVINGS WOULD TAKE 19. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THE UNITS THAT WE'RE REPLACING ARE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THEY'RE BASICALLY PAST THEIR USEFUL LIFE.

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THEY'RE OLDER THAN 15 NOW, PROBABLY LESS THAN 20, SO THOSE ARE PRETTY TYPICAL COMMERCIAL PACKAGE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEMS. RIGHT NOW THEY ARE PACKAGED AIR CONDITIONING WITH GAS FURNACE SECTIONS.

WHAT WE'RE SWITCHING THOSE TWO IS BASICALLY A HEAT PUMP.

IT'S THE SAME THING EXCEPT FOR DURING HEATING MODE, IT JUST RUNS IN REVERSE AND IT'S GOT THE ELECTRIC BACKUP.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE THE TYPICAL LIFESPAN OF THAT TYPE OF ABUTMENT IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15-20 YEARS, SO THAT'S TRUE.

WHERE OUR PROJECT IS BASICALLY APPROACHING IT AS A DECARBONIZATION MEASURE AND A CAPITAL MEASURE WHERE NICOLE MENTIONED BEFORE, THE LIGHTING HAS A GOOD PAYBACK, THE HEAT PUMPS THEY DO NOT HAVE A GOOD PAYBACK.

IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE TO RUN THEM ON ELECTRICITY THAN IT IS FOR RANDOM OR NATURAL GAS.

BUT THE CARBON EMISSION SAVINGS IS SIGNIFICANT WITH MAKING THAT SWITCH.

>> THEN I BELIEVE YOU HAD ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION ON DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

THAT'S WHY IT WAS SO CRITICAL THAT THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT, OVER THE LAST 15 MONTHS, AS WE'VE BEEN ANALYZING THE RESULTS OF THE VERY COMPELLING INVESTMENT-GRADE AUDIT REPORT, WHICH FEED WITH A GOOD READ, WE'VE GOT COPIES.

IS THAT WE LOOKED AT WHERE THE BEST PROJECTS COMING FORWARD FOR WORK ORDER NUMBER ONE WOULD BE IN ADDRESSING DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR FACILITIES BY ANY MEANS BUT A LOT OF THE WEATHER STATION AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY MEASURES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO ASSIST FACILITIES AND GETTING A LEG UP ON SOME DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

>> THANK YOU, NICOLE. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP ANY MORE TIME OTHER THAN.

I THINK THIS COMPANY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AND I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH KATHY AND IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL AND EDUCATIONAL.

I'M TRYING TO BALANCE THE $4.4 MILLION CASH INFUSION TO THINGS THAT WILL TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO REALIZE WHEN I'M ALSO LOOKING AT HOUSING AND 30% OR MORE OF OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING DRIVE FROM OUT OF TOWN INTO TOWN TO WORK, WHICH IS A BIG POLLUTER IN CARBON EMISSIONS COMING UP.

I'M JUST TRYING TO IN MY HEAD, IN THIS CONVERSATION BALANCE WHERE WE PUT THE URGENCY BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT URGENCY TO REACH CARBON NEUTRALITY, AND ARE WE PUTTING OUR LIMITED RESOURCES.

THERE'S A LOT THIS IS VERY VALUABLE, UPFRONT, IMMEDIATE, BUT THEN ARE WE THEN GOING TO CUT OUT ON SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE OUR HOUSING ISSUE FOR DENSITY AND WALKABILITY TO BRING THOSE WORKERS FROM OUT-OF-TOWN INTO TOWN SO WE CAN REACH THAT GOAL AS WELL.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THOSE STRUGGLES TO SAY, WHERE ARE WE PRIORITIZING BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG NUMBER TO CHANGE LIGHT BULBS AND I KNOW THAT'S JUST A FRACTION.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS AUSTIN STARTED IT.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BALANCED IN HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE OBTAINABLY AND REALISTICALLY TO ADDRESS BOTH OF OUR CRISISES.

WE'VE DECLARED A CLIMATE CRISIS AND A HOUSING CRISIS.

AS LONG AS WE KEEP HAVING PEOPLE LIVE IN WILLIAMS AND COMMUTE INTO FLAGSTAFF, WE'RE NOT GOING TO REACH THESE OTHER GOALS.

I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND MAKE SURE IT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

>> ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL BEFORE I TAKE A ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENT? CAN WE HAVE THE COMMENT?

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL I HAVE TRAVIS.

TRAVIS YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MAYOR.

I WANT TO EXPRESS A COUPLE OF CONCERNS I HAVE ABOUT THESE PROJECTS COMING UP.

FIRST, I WANT TO GIVE MY CREDENTIALS TOO SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE ON A COUPLE OF MEETINGS.

I'VE BEEN INTO 28-YEAR RESIDENT OF FLAGSTAFF.

I HAVE A SCIENCE DEGREE IN GEOLOGY.

I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE INDUSTRY FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS NOW.

I HAVE TECHNICAL BACKGROUND FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS ON ALL DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. I AM AN AVID RESEARCHER OF HISTORY AND SCIENCE AND READING GEOPOLITICAL NEWS AND WHATNOT.

I JUST DON'T THINK YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THE NATURE OF QUOTE UNQUOTE, CLIMATE CHANGE.

I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE BEHIND IT AND THE FACT THAT MANY OF

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THESE SCIENTISTS CAN BE PAID BY THE INDUSTRY TO WRITE THE PAPERS THAT THE INDUSTRY IS LOOKING FOR.

WHEN I SEE THE CITY COUNCIL JUST BACK OUT OF THE RADIO UPGRADE FOR THE COMMUNITY FIRST RESPONDERS, I WANT TO URGE THEM TO MAYBE PUT A PAUSE ON THIS PROJECT TOO.

BECAUSE YOU'RE ABOUT TO DUMP $4.4 MILLION INTO A PROJECT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT TURN OUT THE WAY YOU WANT.

I DON'T SEE A PURPOSE OF CONVERTING HEAT TO AIR HEAT PUMPS WHEN YOU HAVE A PERFECTLY RUNNING NATURAL GAS SYSTEM.

NATURAL GAS RIGHT NOW IS A LOT CHEAPER AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GO DOWN COMPARED TO THE ENERGY COSTS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN ALL THESE PEOPLE PLUG IN THEIR NEW ELECTRIC CARS TO THE ENERGY PRICES.

IN ADDITION, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT THE LED LIGHTING YOU'RE PROPOSING.

IS THAT THE TYPE OF LED LIGHTING THAT IS BLUE OR PURPLE? BECAUSE A LOT OF SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE POINTS OUT TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE HIGHLY DAMAGING TO OUR EYES, TO OUR SLEEP CYCLES AND MANY OTHER THINGS.

IF THOSE LIGHTS THAT COME OUT ARE BLUE AND PURPLE, I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF BACKLASH THAT'S COMING BACK FROM THE CITY ON HOW THEY DON'T LIKE THESE LIGHTS, EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT.

WHAT WE HAVE NOW WORKS AND IT ACTUALLY PROVIDES JOBS FOR PEOPLE.

JUST LIKE THE GUYS THAT GO READ THE WATER METERS.

WHICH MIND YOU WATER RATES HAVE DOUBLED IN THE LAST, I'D SAY ABOUT 10 YEARS.

I USED TO PAY $60 A MONTH NOW I PAY $120.

IF I WANT A GARDEN, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE.

I JUST WANT TO URGE THE CITY TO PUT A LITTLE CAUTION IN WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.

YOU'RE GETTING READY TO SPEND VALUABLE MONEY THAT YOU HAVE, CASH AT HAND WHEN YOU HAVE SERIOUS OTHER CRISISES IN THIS TOWN, SUCH AS FLOODING, FIRES AND TRAFFIC.

YOUR TRAFFIC AXIS IN THIS TOWN IS ATROCIOUS.

THERE'S FIRST RESPONDERS THAT CAN'T GET AROUND THIS TOWN AND YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS YOUR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. I URGE YOU TO PUT CAUTIOUS ON THIS AND MAYBE FOR THIS ONE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS COMPANY IS GOING TO BE IN 20 YEARS.

YOU DON'T KNOW IF THIS COMPANY IS GOING TO BE AROUND.

>> THANK YOU, TRAVIS, CAN WE GET YOUR LAST NAME?

>> SMITH.

>> IS THAT ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE?

>> YES. THANK YOU.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

>> WELL, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I DO HAVE A COMMENT FIRST.

I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS SO FAR.

THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN INVESTED IN MOVING THIS FORWARD IS SUBSTANTIAL.

THIS IS PHASE 1.

IT'S A STEPWISE PILOT PROJECT.

I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO APPROACH THIS BECAUSE WE CAN CATCH PROBLEMS AS THEY ARISE.

WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE COURSE ALONG THE WAY IF WE'RE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE RESULTS THAT WE'RE GETTING.

REALLY EXCITED ABOUT 600,000 SQUARE FEET OF FACILITIES GETTING WEATHERIZED, ALONG WITH ALL OF THE OTHER HIGHLIGHTS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED.

I WILL JUST ADD AGAIN THAT I WON'T ENGAGE IN THIS CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF IT BEING A ZERO-SUM GAME WHERE WE HAVE CERTAIN GOALS AND THIS IS TAKING AWAY FROM OTHER GOALS.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF MANY OF WHERE WE CAN CHEW GUM AND WALK AT THE SAME TIME.

THIS IS AN URGENT MATTER.

WE DID JUST GET A NEW REPORT.

I'M SURE NICOLE COULD RIFLE OFF THE DETAILS BETTER THAN I CAN ABOUT THE URGENCY AROUND OUR HISTORIES AND THE INEVITABLE BREAKING OF OUR CLIMATE FALLBACKS BY 2050.

STUMBLING THROUGH THIS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN FRONT OF ME.

BUT THE URGENCY IS REAL.

THE RAMIFICATIONS THAT WE SEE HERE LOCALLY ARE ABSOLUTELY TANGIBLE AND KNOWN BY THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE CLIMATE CHANGE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF BY CHANGING OUT OUR HEAT PUMPS.

BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO STAND TALL AND TO SHOW LEADERSHIP ON THIS AND TO PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS AND MAKE THESE INVESTMENTS AND TAKE THIS MOMENT OF LEADERSHIP IN SOLIDARITY WITH EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY AROUND THE WORLD WHO ALSO NEEDS TO DO THIS SO THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT US AND GO WELL THEY'RE DOING IT.

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WE CAN DO IT TOO. WE'VE BEEN HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS FOR 40, 50, 60 YEARS.

THERE'S JUST NO MORE TIME TO WAIT AND PUNT ON THIS.

IT'S NOT A ZERO-SUM GAME.

IT'S NOT ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL.

THESE ARE ALL ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO TACKLE AT THE SAME TIME AND WE CANNOT KEEP WAITING, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'VE ALREADY GOT DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ON A LOT OF THESE PARTICULAR REPAIRS AND ELEMENTS AS IT IS, SO I FULLY WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS.

UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER COMMENTS, I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> PLEASE GO AHEAD. [NOISE]

>> I MOVE THAT WE AWARD AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY SERVICES JOB ORDER CONTRACT WITH FRESCO.

>> THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY?

>> DID STAFF FINISH THEIR PRESENTATION?

>> WE WERE DONE. THANK YOU.

>> JUST WANTED TO VERIFY.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE TRUST IN NEBRASKA. WE APPRECIATE IT.

[B. Consideration and approval of Preliminary Plat: A request by Presidio Tract M, LLC for approval of the Preliminary Plat for Miramonte at Presidio in the Pines VI Condominiums (City of Flagstaff project number PZ-19-00204-05), a 39-unit multi-family residential condominium subdivision. The 2.77-acre site is located at 2950 W. Presidio Dr. in the Highway Commercial (HC) zone with a Resource Protection Overlay (RPO). The site will develop as a Planned Residential Development (PRD) under the T4N.2 (Transect) Zone standards. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve the Preliminary Plat in accordance with the findings presented in this report and the Planning and Zoning Commission recommendation of approval (5-0 vote on February 8, 2023).]

>> MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 9B, CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT A REQUEST BY PRESIDIO TRACT M, LLC FOR APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR MIRAMONTE AT PRESIDIO IN THE PINES VI CONDOMINIUMS, CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, PROJECT NUMBER PZ19-00204-05, A 39 UNIT MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM SUBDIVISION.

THE 2.77-ACRE SITE IS LOCATED AT 2950 WEST PRESIDIO DRIVE IN THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE, WITH A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY.

THE SITE WILL DEVELOP AS A PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE T4N.2 TRANSIT ZONE STANDARDS.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL ALEXANDRA PUCCIARELLI, CURRENT PLANNING MANAGER.

LET'S BEGIN WITH THIS PLOT.

THIS IS MIRAMONTE AT PRESIDIO IN THE PINES VI CONDOMINIUMS PRELIMINARY PLAT.

THIS IS A REQUEST FROM PRESIDIO TRACT M, LLC FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL.

THIS IS LOCATED AT 2950 WEST PRESIDIO DRIVE.

BECAUSE THIS IS A PLAT, THEY ARE NOT DISCRETIONARY REVIEWS.

THEY ARE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BASED ON COMPLIANCE WITH CITY CODE.

A CONDOMINIUM PLAT INDICATES BOTH VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL BOUNDARIES OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

THEY CAN ALSO BE COMMERCIAL, IN THIS CASE, IT'S RESIDENTIAL.

IT ALSO CALLS OUT LIMITED COMMON ELEMENTS.

THINGS LIKE MORE PRIVATE DECKS AND BALCONIES, PORCHES, AS WELL AS COMMON ELEMENTS SHARED BY ALL OF THE RESIDENTS.

TYPICALLY, THAT WOULD BE COMMON AREAS IN THE BUILDINGS SUCH AS HALLWAYS, THE WALLS, LIKE THE SPACES BETWEEN THE WALLS, BETWEEN THE FLOOR PLATES, AS WELL AS TRACTS.

IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE TRACT A WHICH INCLUDES OPEN SPACE RESOURCES, PARKING, A DRAINAGE EASEMENT, INGRESS, EGRESS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE WHOLE PURPOSE BEHIND THIS PLAT IS TO CREATE THESE LEGAL AIRS PACES THAT ALLOW YOU TO SELL THESE UNITS INDIVIDUALLY.

HERE'S ONE OF THE SHEETS FROM THE PLOT.

THIS IS IDENTIFYING TRACTS, EASEMENTS, AND THEN SHOWING UNIT LOCATIONS.

BECAUSE THIS IS A CONDOMINIUM PLAT, IT IS NOT CREATING LOTS THROUGH SUBDIVIDING LAND.

IT REMAINS ONE PARCEL.

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HERE'S AN EXAMPLE FROM THE PLAT THAT'S SHOWING HOW IT'S IDENTIFYING THE UNIT AIRSPACES.

IT'S SHOWING A FLOOR PLAN THAT'S SHOWING WHAT THE AIRSPACE SOMEONE WOULD OWN AS WELL.

YOU CAN SEE LIKE THE PORCHES AND COMMON THOSE LIMITED COMMON AREAS, AS WELL AS THERE'S A SECTION THAT'S SHOWING THE VERTICAL AIRSPACE SO BETWEEN THOSE FLOOR PLATES.

IN ORDER TO APPROVE A PLAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF CODE.

THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THE PLAN HAS TO MEET THE ZONING CODE.

IT HAS TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICT THAT IT'S IN.

AS MAYOR MENTIONED, IT'S IN THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE, WHICH ALLOWS FOR MULTI-FAMILY TO BE DEVELOPED AS PART OF A PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

AND IT MEETS THE PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, BASICALLY UTILIZES STANDARDS FROM THE TRANSIT ZONE.

BUT YOU'RE NOT REZONING TO TRANSIT ZONE, SO YOU'RE JUST UTILIZING SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS.

WELL AS SPECIFIC BUILDING TYPES.

THEN WHAT WE CALL PRIVATE FRONTAGE TYPES, WHICH ARE BASICALLY TYPES OF ALMOST ENTRY FEATURES OF A BUILDING.

IN THIS CASE, WE'RE USING THE BUILDING TYPE IS AN APARTMENT BUILDING AND THE PRIVATE FRONTAGE TYPE IS THIS COURTYARD IS WHAT IT'S CALLED.

THIS PROJECT HAS 39 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

IT'S ON 2.77 ACRES.

IT NEEDS THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONE AS WELL.

IT ENDS UP BEING ABOUT 14 UNITS AND ACRE AND THE ALLOWED DENSITY IS BETWEEN 10 AND 22.

IT'S IN THAT RANGE.

IT ALSO MEETS ALL THE ZONING CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPING, OPEN SPACE, RESOURCE PROTECTION.

THE OTHER SECTION OF CODE THAT WE LOOK AT IS THE SUBDIVISION CODE.

PRELIMINARY PLAT WE LOOK AT, IS IT MEETING THE REQUIRED PROCEDURES AND THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS? IS IT MEETING MINIMUM REQUIRED SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENTS? WE TEND TO SEE THOSE MORE ON SUBDIVISION PLATS AS OPPOSED TO A CONDOMINIUM PLATS.

BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT DIVIDING LAND.

IT IS IDENTIFIED IN THE PUBLIC SYSTEMS ANALYSIS, WHICH IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

WE ALSO LOOK AT THE SUBDIVISION STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS.

AGAIN, MORE SPECIFIC TYPICALLY TO A SUBDIVISION WOULD INCLUDE THE LOT DESIGN STREET DESIGNS BLOCKS.

BUT IN A CONDO PLAT, WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS SUCH AS PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENTS AND ACCESS EASEMENTS, THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

THE THIRD SECTION THAT WE LOOK AT IS MEETING ENGINEERING STANDARDS.

BECAUSE THIS CONDOMINIUM PLAT IS PART OF THE LARGER DEVELOPMENT OF THE PRESIDIO, A LOT OF THESE IMPACT ANALYSES WERE DONE AS PART OF THAT INITIAL SUBDIVISION PROCESS FOR THAT LARGER DEVELOPMENT.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS DONE ORIGINALLY AS PART OF THE PRESIDIO PLAN AND THIS PROJECT WAS NOT LARGE ENOUGH, DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH OF A OF A PREDICTED IMPACT TO REQUIRE A NEW TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

THIS PROJECT IS PROVIDING NEW WATER AND SEWER TO THEIR SITE FROM THE ROAD.

THEY'RE ON SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

THEN WE LOOK AT A DRAINAGE IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2020 AND DETERMINED THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING THE ON-SITE DETENTION THAT'S REQUIRED FOR STORM WATER.

STORM WATER REQUESTED A DRAINAGE MAINTENANCE EASEMENTS.

THAT'S INDICATED ON THIS PLAT THAT WILL ALLOW STAFF TO MAINTAIN AS NECESSARY.

THE REQUIRED FINDINGS PRELIMINARY PLAT, AND MEETS THE REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL.

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IT MEETS THE ZONING CODE, IT MEETS THE SUBDIVISION CODE AND MEETS THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS.

STAFF ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY PLAT ON JANUARY 19TH OF THIS YEAR.

WE TOOK THIS TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THAT RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT BY VOTE OF 5-0 ON FEBRUARY 8TH.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS A CART BEFORE THE HORSE QUESTION.

I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWERS.

I'LL ASK THE QUESTION AND THEN I'LL SEE IF I'M RIGHT.

I NOTICED THAT THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED THE PROJECT.

MY THEORY IS THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED LIKE AS A APARTMENT PROJECT.

NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE JUST SAYING, WELL, IT'S THE SAME FOOTPRINT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW CONDOMINIUMS INSTEAD OF APARTMENTS. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. IT IS VERY TYPICAL AND THESE CONDO PLAT DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THE DEVELOPER WILL GO AHEAD AND CONSTRUCT THE BUILDING AND IT'S APPROVED AS MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

IT COULD BE UTILIZED AS A RENTAL.

BUT THEN YOU CAN ALWAYS COME IN AND DO A SUBDUE THE CONDO PLAT GO THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS THAT ENABLES PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE THOSE UNITS.

IT IS TYPICAL THAT, I WOULD ARGUE AND I'M SURE THERE ARE SURVEYORS IN THE ROOM ARE LISTENING WHO WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY EASIER TO HAVE THE BUILDING ALL BUILT AND BE ABLE TO DETERMINE THE ACTUAL AIRSPACE BUILT BASED ON WHAT IS CONSTRUCTED.

IN THIS CASE, THEY HAVEN'T STARTED THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION YET.

BUT YEAH, THEY HAVE TO DETERMINE THAT AIRSPACE.

>> THEORETICALLY IF WE TURN THIS DOWN AND THAT'S NOT A THREAT, [LAUGHTER] THEN IT COULD STILL BE BUILT AS OTHER EXISTING APPROVALS?

>> IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW AND IT COULD BE BUILT.

>> AS APARTMENTS.

>> RIGHT.

>> WE WOULD JUST BE SAYING, SORRY, YOU CAN'T OWN THIS APARTMENT.

YOU CAN ONLY RENT IT.

>> THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM.

>> ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YES.

>> I'LL COMMENT.

>> JUST REAL QUICKLY. I BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SUPPORT.

I REMEMBER BEING SUPPORTIVE OF THE ORIGINAL PROJECT CONCEPT EARLIER.

WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE ONGOING TRAFFIC CONCERNS AT THAT CHOKE POINT ON WHAT IS THAT? WOODY MOUNTAIN AWAY?

>> WOODY WAY.

>> WOODY WAY. THANK YOU.

I ALWAYS GET THOSE CONFUSED.

I WONDER IF THERE'S A WAY FOR A DEVELOPER TO HELP OUT WITH THAT BY ENCOURAGING THROUGH SIGNAGE OR SOME STATEMENT DURING THE PURCHASE PHASE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VALUE OF THIS IS EXCEPT JUST DUE DILIGENCE, ENCOURAGING FOLKS TO USE WOODY MOUNTAIN ROAD TO GET INTO AND BACK OUT OF TOWN, RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

JUST MAYBE AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PRESSURES THAT ARE BEING FELT WITHIN THE BOLDED POINT NEIGHBORHOOD AND BACKUP AGAINST THE FAR SIDE OF PRESIDIO ITSELF.

AGAIN, JUST THINKING OUT LOUD, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF ANYONE NEEDS TO RESPOND TO THAT.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE VOICE TO THAT CONTINUED ONGOING FRUSTRATION THAT EXISTS OUT THERE.

I ALSO JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP FROM THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION IN RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO CREATE A MORE UNITS AND IT'S INAPPROPRIATE INFILL DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S APPROPRIATE WAY TO GET UNITS OUT THERE.

I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF IT ON THAT CONCEPT ALONE.

WHEN I TALKED ABOUT ZERO-SUM GAME ARRIVING, ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL, THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP OUR AND THE BALL ON THE HOUSING EMERGENCY VERY MUCH, JUST AS MUCH AS WE ARE ON OUR EFFORTS AROUND SOLIDARITY AND CLIMATE CRISIS.

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GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ONE-TWO PUNCH WITH THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM AND THIS ONE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND STRIDING FORWARD ON BOTH COUNTS AND THAT THESE EFFORTS ARE INDEED SYNERGISTIC AND WE CAN ACCOMPLISH BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FINDINGS PRESENTED IN THIS REPORT AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

>> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THIS PROJECT HAS A PROVISION IN THE DETAILS I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE DOCUMENT WOULD BE SAYING THAT THEY CANNOT HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

IS THAT TRUE? I'M SEEING HEADS GO UP AND DOWN.

>> THIRTY-DAY MINIMUM.

>> A 30-DAY MINIMUM.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

I JUST WANTED TO REFRESH EVERYBODY'S MEMORY ON THAT AND I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

>> MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 10A;

[A. Public Hearing and Consideration and Adoption of Ordinance No. 2023-06: An ordinance of the City Council of the City of Flagstaff, amending the Flagstaff Zoning Map to rezone approximately 17.02 acres of real property generally located at 2950 East Butler Avenue, from the Rural Residential (RR) and Medium-Density Residential (MR) zones with a Resource Protection Overlay (RPO) to the Highway Commercial (HC) zone with an RPO, providing for severability, authority for clerical corrections, and establishing an effective date. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: At the March 21, 2023, Council Meeting: 1. Hold the Public Hearing 2. Read Ordinance No. 2023-06 by title only for the first time 3. City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2023-06 by title only (if approved above) At the April 4, 2023, Council meeting: 4. Read Ordinance No. 2023-06 by title only for the final time 5. City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2023-06 by title only (if approved above) 6. Adopt Ordinance No. 2023-06]

PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-06, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AMENDING THE FLAGSTAFF ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 17.02 ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 2950 EAST BUTLER AVENUE FROM THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONES WITH A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY TO THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONES WITH AN RPO PROVIDING FOR SEVERAL ABILITY AUTHORITY FOR CLERICAL CORRECTIONS AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

EXCUSE ME ONE MOMENT.

I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE WILL HAVE OUR STAFF PRESENTATION, AND THEN IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, WE CAN DO THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS PATRICK SINCLAIR, I'M A PLANNER FOR THE CITY.

I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE BUTLER AVENUE LOFTS APPLICATION FOR DIRECT ORDINANCE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.

THIS IS PROJECT NUMBER PZ-21-00284-03.

THIS IMAGE SHOWS THE SUBJECT PARCEL WITH A RED STAR IN A RED OUTLINE AND EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS AND USES SURROUNDING THE SITE.

NORTH IS AT 40, SOUTH IS BUTLER AVENUE.

TO THE EAST OR THE BLUFFS SENIOR LIVING FACILITY, AND WEST IS A BLACK BART'S, RV PARK AND STEAKHOUSE.

THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THE FOLLOWING [NOISE] A DIRECT ORDINANCE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT WHICH IF APPROVED WILL CHANGE APPROXIMATELY 17 ACRES OF LAND FROM THE MEDIUM-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONES TO THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE.

THIS PROJECT ELECTS TO REZONE TO THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONE BECAUSE IT APPLIES TO AREAS PRIMARILY AT COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS WHICH WERE APPROPRIATE FOR MIXED-USE PROJECTS.

THE PROPOSAL ALIGNS THE DEVELOPMENT ZONING WITH SURROUNDING ZONING AND PROVIDES INCREASED DENSITY AND NEW COMMERCIAL LAND USES IN THE AREA.

COMPRISED OF COMMERCIAL, RETAIL, AND MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES, THIS MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT, TWO-STORY CLUBHOUSE AND COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDING, A 1.09 ACRE PAD FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND INCLUDES 172 DWELLING UNITS AND 43 FOUR-PLEX RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.

LET'S LOOK AT THE CLUBHOUSE AND COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDING WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE RED CIRCLE ON THE SLIDE.

THIS STRUCTURE ANCHORS THE PARK PROJECTS NEIGHBORHOOD PRESENCE ALONG BUTLER AVENUE.

THE 5,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING INCLUDES A FIRST-FLOOR LEASING OFFICE AND CLUBHOUSE WITH 2,154 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE LOCATED ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

THE BUILDING CAN ACCESS BUTLER AVENUE SIDEWALK AND ON-SITE VEHICLE AND BIKE PARKING AREAS.

THE FIRST-FLOOR PLAN SHOWS THE ARRANGEMENT OF THE LEASING OFFICES, LOBBY, AND KITCHENETTE, FITNESS CENTER, AND RESTROOMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLUBHOUSE.

THE SECOND-FLOOR PLAN SHOWS THE LAYOUT OF THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE INCLUDING CONFERENCE ROOMS, SINGLE AND OPEN OFFICE SPACES, KITCHENETTE, AND RESTROOMS. THE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE INTRODUCES THE ARCHITECTURAL THEME AND MATERIAL PALLET OF WOOD METAL EXTERIOR FINISHES USED THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.

THE BUILDING EMPLOYS MATERIALS, FORUMS,

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AND SCALE COMMON TO THOSE TRADITIONALLY USED IN FLAGSTAFF AND IN CONCERT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE COMMERCIAL PAD INDICATED BY THE RED CIRCLE WILL BE SPLIT FROM THE MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT AS A COMMERCIAL PARCEL.

[NOISE] THE PROJECT'S DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT LIMITS USES THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED ON THIS PARCEL.

THE FOLLOWING USES ARE EXCLUDED: INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING, PROCESSING, AND WHOLESALING, RESIDENTIAL USES, EQUIPMENT RENTAL YARD USES, CEMETERIES, TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES, TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, AND VEHICLE SALES AND SERVICES.

NOW WE CAN LOOK AT THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.

A SINGLE FOUR-PLEX IS WITHIN THE RED CIRCLE.

THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ARE GENERALLY BACK FROM BUTLER AVENUE AND CONNECTED TO OPEN SPACES WHICH INCLUDE FOREST RESOURCES THAT ARE SHIELDED FROM BUTLER AVENUE.

THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ACTIVITY IS CONNECTED TO SITE AMENITIES, CIVIC AND OPEN SPACES, COMMERCIAL SPACES, AND ADJACENT MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION NETWORKS.

THE FLOOR PLANS PROVIDE A FRONT PORCH, EXTERIOR ENCLOSED STORAGE AREA, AND SCREENED REAR YARD.

WHILE INTEGRATING COMBINATIONS OF 1, 2, AND 3-BEDROOM DWELLING UNITS, THE 4-PLEX EXTERIORS ALL APPEAR ALIKE.

THIS GENERATES THE UNIQUE AND UBIQUITOUS CHARACTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

CLUB LIKE THE COMMERCIAL AND CLUBHOUSE STRUCTURE AND WOOD AND METAL THE ARCHITECTURAL THEME OF THE PROJECT IS EASILY DISCERNIBLE.

THESE STRUCTURES FIT AND SCALE IN APPEARANCE WITHIN THIS REGIONAL URBAN ACTIVITY CENTER IN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE TOTAL RESIDENTIAL UNIT MIX FOR THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING; 26 ONE BED ONE BATH UNITS, 122-BED TWO-BATH UNITS, AND 26 THREE-BED TWO-BATH UNITS.

THE DEVELOPERS AGREED TO OFFER 5% OR NONE OF THE UNITS AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

THE PROJECT SHOWS COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN USES AND CONNECTS PEDESTRIAN BIKE IN VEHICULAR CIRCULATION WITH ADJACENT MULTI-MODAL AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ROUTES.

IT PROVIDES CIVIC SPACE AND ERASE THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS FROM AN OPEN SPACE AND AMENITIES BLENDED INTO THE NATIVE TERRAIN.

THE DEVELOPMENT IS RESPONSIVE TO NEIGHBORING DEVELOPMENTS.

THE SITE PLAN FOR THIS PROPOSAL WAS APPROVED ON FEBRUARY 2ND, 2023 WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE PROPOSAL SUBMIT FOR AND RECEIVE APPROVAL OF A DIRECT TO ORDINANCE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.

THE PARCEL IS WITHIN THE RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY ZONE.

IT MUST PROTECT EXISTING FLOODPLAIN, FOREST RESOURCES, AND STEEP SLOPES.

IN ON-SITE PORTION OF THE RURAL FLOODPLAIN AT THE NORTHEAST OF THE MAP WHICH IS TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT TURNED THIS WILL BE ADDRESSED BY A DRAINAGE MAINTENANCE EASEMENT WHICH IS INTENDED TO REMOVE HINDRANCES TO MAINTENANCE OF THE FLOODPLAIN AT THAT LOCATION.

COMMERCIALLY ZONED SITES MUST PRESERVE A MINIMUM OF 30% OF TREE RESOURCES AND THE PROPOSAL SHOWS A 35% RETENTION RATE FOR THESE RESOURCES AND NO STEEP SLOPES ARE PROPOSED TO BE DISTURBED.

>> PARDON ME? CAN WE INTERJECT WITH A QUESTION HERE FROM THE VICE MAYOR?

>> CAN I STOP YOU THERE? GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

THE TREE RESOURCES, IT LOOKS LIKE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THOSE TREE RESOURCES AT LEAST ACCORDING TO YOUR GRAPHIC OVERLAY WITH THE MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT PORTION.

CAN YOU RECONCILE THAT FOR ME?

>> IT'S THE GREEN CIRCLES.

THERE'S SOME OF THE STEEP SLOPE AREAS WHICH ARE IN THE YELLOW OVERLAP SOME OF THOSE GREEN TOO.

BUT ESSENTIALLY PRESERVED TREES ARE GIVEN POINTS BASED ON SIZE.

>> WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS DOUBLE-DIPPING IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING THERE NOT A CEMETERY APPARENTLY.

>> IS THIS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?

>> YES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LOSE THOSE TREES TOO ON EXCUSE DEVELOPMENT.

>> THAT'S ACTUALLY A SEPARATE PARCEL AND TECHNICALLY ISN'T PART OF THE MIXED-USE.

THE MIXED-USE HAS TO DO WITH THE CLUBHOUSE AND THAT OFFICE SPACE.

THE TREE RESOURCES ON THAT SITE HAVE TO MEET THAT PERCENTAGE AND THEN BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPING THAT COMMERCIAL PARCEL YET, THEY'RE NOT TOUCHING ANY OTHER TREES THERE.

WE'LL ANALYZE THE TREE RESOURCES ONCE THAT GETS DEVELOPED AND THEY'LL ALSO HAVE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEING FACTORED INTO THE CALCULATION HERE FOR THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TREE RESOURCES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT IS.

I BELIEVE IT'S BEING SEPARATE BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE PARCELS.

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>> LOOK INTO THAT FOR ME AND IT'S FINE IF THAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER.

>> I'LL GO BACK AND I'LL CONFIRM.

[OVERLAPPING] I'LL STOP INTERRUPTING PATRICK.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WE'RE NOT DOING FUNNY MATH HERE.

THAT'S ALL I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF.

IF IT'S ALL ACCOUNTED FOR THAT'S GREAT.

>> I MISSED THE SPECIFIC POINT OF THAT QUESTION.

>> ONE MORE INTERRUPTION.

>> YES MA'AM.

>> IF WE MAY, COUNCIL MEMBER MATHEWS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WAS GOING DOWN THE SAME PATH THAT VICE MAYOR WAS.

CURRENTLY WHAT IS OUR CITY'S TREE RETENTION REQUIREMENT ON A NEW DEVELOPMENT?

>> IT'S BASED ON THE ZONE THAT THE PARCEL IS IN.

THERE'S DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES OF TREE PRESERVATION BASED ON WHETHER YOU'RE RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, OR INDUSTRIAL ZONE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THIS PROJECT BEING COMMERCIAL IS REQUIRED TO PRESERVE 30% OF RESOURCES.

INDUSTRIAL SITES ARE REQUIRED TO PRESERVE LESS AND RESIDENTIAL SITES ARE REQUIRED TO PRESERVE SOMEWHAT MORE.

>> I THINK YOU'RE SAFE TO PROCEED.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I LOST MY LITTLE ARROW HERE.

LET ME GET IT OFF OF THAT ONE INTO THIS ONE.

A MINIMUM OF 5% OF THE SITES REQUIRED A CIVIC SPACE, 5.7% OF THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED IS CIVIC SPACES, AND THESE ARE SHOWN IN THE PINK AREAS.

THE PROPOSAL MUST PROVIDE 15% OF THE SITE AS OPEN SPACE.

THREE OPEN SPACES ARE INDICATED IN GREEN ON THE MAP, AND THEY ARE APPROXIMATELY 20% OF THE SITE.

BICYCLE RACKS ARE AVAILABLE ACROSS THE SITE IN A FUTURE CONNECTION WITH THE SWITES OR WASH FOOTS TRAIL IS INDICATED IN PURPLE ON THE MAP.

THAT'S AN ANTICIPATED CONNECTION.

[NOISE] IT MOVED. REQUIRED PARKING THE 375 SPACES ARE REQUIRED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WITH TRANSIT AND BICYCLE PARKING REDUCTIONS, TOTAL PARKING IS 327 SPACES.

THE PROJECT PROVIDES 352 VEHICLE PARKING SPACES AND WILL PROVIDE 40 BICYCLE PARKING SPACES, 16 OF WHICH ARE UNCOVERED AND 24 ARE COVERED.

ACCORDING TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR THE MITIGATION OF IMPACTS WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH CONSTRUCTION AND IN LIEU CASH CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE DEVELOPER FOR CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS ALONG BUTLER AVENUE.

THE DEVELOPER MUST PAY IN LIEU FEES FOR A RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE EASTERN MOST DRIVEWAY OF THE PROJECT AND ARE REQUIRED TO PAY A PROPORTIONAL SHARE OF THE PERMANENT SIGNAL FOR THE BUTLER AVENUE AND NORTH FOURTH STREET INTERSECTION.

THE TIMING OF PAYMENTS FOR IN LIEU FEES AND PROPORTIONAL SHARE COSTS ARE ADDRESSED IN THE PROJECT'S DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE TO CONSTRUCT A LEFT-HAND TURN LANE INTO THE WESTERN MOST DRIVEWAY FOR THE PROJECT.

ON-SITE WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE ARE THE REQUIREMENT OF THE DEVELOPER AND ACCORDING TO THE WATER SEWER IMPACT ANALYSIS, THE DEVELOPER MUST PAY A PROPORTIONAL SHARE OF THE CITY'S SOLIERE TRANSMISSION MAIN PROJECT TO PROVIDE A SECONDARY A WATER SOURCE TO THE AREA.

THE PLAN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IS TO LOOP NEW 8-INCH WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES ACROSS THE SITE AND A SHARED PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT BELOW PARKING AREAS AND ON-SITE DRIVEWAYS THAT WILL CONNECT TO EXISTING WATER AND SEWER MAINS WITHIN BUTLER AVENUE.

THREE SURFACE BASINS AND THREE UNDERGROUND STORAGE BASINS ADDRESS ON-SITE VOLUME MITIGATION, PEAK FLOW MITIGATION, AND LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE PROJECT MEETS STORM-WATER REQUIREMENTS AND THE PROPOSED WILL PROVIDE BENEFITS TO THE STORM-WATER SYSTEM AS A WHOLE.

THE REGIONAL PLAN ANALYSIS FOR THE DIRECT ORDINANCE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REVIEWS OF PARCELS, AREA, AND PLACE TYPE DESIGNATIONS.

THIS PROPERTY IS A FUTURE SUBURBAN AREA TYPE AND IT'S LOCATED WITHIN A REGIONAL SUBURBAN ACTIVITY CENTER PLACE TYPE.

THE AREA TYPE DESCRIBES THE CONTEXT OF THE SITE AND THE PLACE TYPE PROVIDES THE FRAMEWORK FOR DENSITY, INTENSITY, AND MIX OF USES TO BE PROVIDED.

REGIONAL URBAN ACTIVITY CENTER IS CHARACTERIZED BY LARGER, MIXED-USE PROJECTS ALONG TRAVEL CORRIDORS WITHIN THE ACTIVITY CENTER, PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, COMMERCIAL, AND RESIDENTIAL LAND USES ARE EXPECTED AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS.

URBAN ACTIVITY CENTERS ARE UNIQUE, BUT EACH SHOULD PROVIDE A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, CAN CONTAINED PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE CONNECTED TO PUBLIC TRANSIT.

THESE ACTIVITY CENTERS ANTICIPATED DENSITY OF EIGHT PLUS UNITS PER ACRE WITH MIXED USE PROJECTS AND THE PROPOSAL HAS A DENSITY OF 10.8 UNITS PER ACRE.

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REZONING THE SITE, THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL, BASED ON THE PROPOSED PLAN WILL INTRODUCE A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT INTO THIS REGIONAL URBAN ACTIVITY CENTER MATCHING THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

MINI GOALS AND POLICIES FROM THE CHAPTERS OF THE REGIONAL PLAN WE REVIEWED BY STAFF AND THE APPLICANT, VERIFY AND CONFORMANCE OF THE PROJECT WITH ISSUES IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE REGIONAL PLAN.

A COMPREHENSIVE REGIONAL PLAN ANALYSIS IDENTIFIED IRRELEVANT GOALS AND POLICIES IS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE STAFF REPORT FOR THIS PROPOSAL BUT IN SYNOPSIS, THE ANALYSIS INDICATES THAT THE REZONING SUPPORTS INCREASED DENSITY IN NEW COMMERCIAL USES.

IT WILL ESTABLISH A SUSTAINABLE ALL-ELECTRIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH YOU'LL PAY COSTS FOR AND IN CONSTRUCT PORTIONS OF UPGRADED CITY TRANSIT AND WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE PROJECT PRESERVES FLOODPLAIN AND FOREST RESOURCES AND INTEGRATES OPEN SPACES INTO THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

THIS INFILL INVESTMENT IN AN EXISTING REGIONAL SUBURBAN ACTIVITY CENTER WILL SERVE TO DEVELOP HIGH-QUALITY, COMPLETE, AND CONNECTED PLACES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT MUST BE EVALUATED AGAINST AND FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THREE FINDINGS.

REGARDING FINDING NUMBER 1, CONFORMANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.

THE PROPOSAL CONFORMS TO CHARACTERISTICS DESIRED AND A REGIONAL URBAN ACTIVITY CENTER, NEW COMMERCIAL USES, CIVIC SPACES, INCREASED RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND CONNECTIONS TO MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION ARE INCLUDED TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.

FINDING NUMBER 1 IS MET.

REGARDING FINDING NUMBER 2, COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND PUBLIC GOOD, THE PROJECT IN FIELDS AND UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTY COMMITS FIVE PERCENT OF THE DWELLING UNITS IS PERMANENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS PROVIDES CASH IN LIEU PAYMENTS FOR OFF-SITE WATER AND TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

THE DEVELOPMENT IS ALL ELECTRIC AND IT PROMOTES ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.

THE PROPOSAL CONTRIBUTES TO THE STABILITY OF AN ACTIVE AND GROWING URBAN ACTIVITY CENTER.

FINDING NUMBER 2 IS MET.

OPS SORRY, IF ANYTHING.

REGARDING FINDING NUMBER 3, THE SITE IS PHYSICALLY SUITABLE.

THE INNER DIVISION STAFF REVIEW THE APPLICATION AND CONCLUDE THE SITE WAS SUITABLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE ADS TEAM BASED IT'S CONCLUSIONS ON THE REVIEW OF ALL APPLICABLE CODES AND REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR THE SITE.

ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS WOULD BE MITIGATED BY THE APPLICANT.

FINDING NUMBER 3 IS MET.

A DRAFT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE PROJECT CONTINUES TO BE NEGOTIATED THROUGHOUT THE REVIEW OF THE PROJECT.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGREEMENT IS TO SET OUT ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES REGARDING, AMONG OTHER THINGS.

THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS INDICATES LAND USE IS ALLOWABLE AND THE FUTURE COMMERCIAL PAD INDICATES COST AND PAYMENT TIMING FOR THE IN LIEU FRONTAGE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE BUTLER AVENUE, NORTH 4TH STREET PERMANENT SIGNAL AND IT IDENTIFIES THE COST AND PAYMENT TIMING FOR THE SOLIERE TRANSMISSION MAIN PROPORTIONAL SHARE COST.

TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WERE HELD FOR THE PROJECT.

THE FIRST ON OCTOBER 3RD AND THE SECOND ON OCTOBER 6TH OF 2022.

THE TOPICS DISCUSSED WHERE THE IMPACT OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT ON TRAFFIC IN THE AREA, THE NATURE OF THE UNITS AND THE LOCATION OF COMMERCIAL USES ON SITE.

A PLANNING IS ZONING COMMISSION HEARING WAS HELD ON MARCH 8TH, 2023.

THE COMMISSION FORWARDED THE PROPOSAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL BY VOTE OF 4-1.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THE CITY COUNCIL, IN ACCORDANCE WITH FINDINGS PRESENTED APPROVE CASE PZ-21-00284-03, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING FIVE CONDITIONS WHICH ARE LISTED ON THE SLIDE ABOVE AND ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT ORDINANCE.

THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS AND WE ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AS WELL.

>> DOES COUNSEL, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR?

>> I DON'T REMEMBER HEARING ABOUT EB PARKING AND I'M SURE IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO ADDRESS THAT DURING THEIR PART OF IT, AND I JUST WANT TO ADD TOO, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE SEEING COVERED BIKE PARKING JUST AS A GIVEN IN THESE PROPOSALS AT THIS POINT.

I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF, WHAT DID WE SAY? TWENTY FOUR SPOTS.

>> THERE'S 40 TOTAL BIKE PARKING SPOT, 16 UNCOVERED AND 24 COVERED.

>> I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THAT PREEMPTIVELY FOR DOING THAT FOR US. I APPRECIATE THAT.

THEN EB PARKING IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE ANOTHER THING THAT COMES UP AGAIN WITH THESE.

I WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.

>> OKAY.

>> THEN I WANT TO CONFIRM.

I PULLED UP THE TREE PRESERVATION SHEET.

>> YES, PLEASE.

>> WE'RE ALL GOOD. THAT COMMERCIAL PARCEL ISN'T INCLUDED.

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RIGHT NOW, IT'S BEING MET ALL ON THAT ONE DEVELOPMENT SITE.

>> FABULOUS. THEN THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL WILL HAVE ITS OWN REQUIREMENT THAT IT NEEDS TO MEET?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I THINK WHAT WAS CONFUSING ABOUT THAT IS JUST IN THE GRAPHIC.

IT SEEMS TO ALL BE PULLED TOGETHER, BUT THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASK. THANKS.

>> I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE THAT CLEAR IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT ON MY PART.

>> BEFORE STAFF LEAVES, WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

>> YES. CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE, OR TWO SLIDES, ANOTHER ONE? RIGHT THERE I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE TWO MEETINGS?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> OCTOBER 3RD, 22, AND OCTOBER 6TH, 23?

>> I APOLOGIZE THAT IS A TYPO.

>> OKAY.

>> THEY HAVE NOT HELD A MEETING IN THE FUTURE.

>> [LAUGHTER] OKAY [LAUGHTER].

>>I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. I APOLOGIZE SLIP OF THE FINGER.

>> BUT ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE A MEETING OCTOBER 6TH, 23?

>> NO, MA'AM. THE TWO [OVERLAPPING] NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WERE HELD ON OCTOBER 3RD, 2022 AND OCTOBER 6TH, 2022.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> GOOD EYE, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, AND THE APPLICANT? DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION OR COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE?

>> YES. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS CHARITY LIHEM, WITH MIRA MONTE HOMES.

I DID WANT TO JUST GO OVER A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT.

[BACKGROUND] YES, PLEASE.

THEN STACY DID PUT MINE ON THE [OVERLAPPING].

>> WHERE DID SHE PUT YOURS?

>> MINE'S HERE, LOOKS LIKE RIGHT THERE.

>> OKAY.

>>THANK YOU, PATRICK.

>> THERE WE GO.

>> [BACKGROUND].

>> WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE BUTLER LAST PROJECT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.

IT'S ALMOST BEEN TWO YEARS, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT, WHEN WE STARTED THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE SELLER TO THIS POINT, SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO JUST GO OVER AGAIN AND I KNOW THAT, THIS IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR FLAGSTAFF.

I HAVE GROWN UP IN FLAGSTAFF.

I'VE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE.

THIS IS AN ISSUE OF HOUSING THAT ONLY CONTINUES TO GET WORSE AND WORSE EVERY YEAR AND SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO BRING UNITS TO FLAGSTAFF, 172 ADDITIONAL HOUSING UNITS, RENTAL UNITS TO THIS TOWN AND 5% OF THOSE WILL BE DESIGNATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR 30 YEARS.

I WENT BACKWARDS, EXCUSE ME.

>> THE FLAGSTAFF REGIONAL PLAN SETS FORTH THE COMMUNITY'S VISION OF HOW LAND USE AND THE REGIONS SHOULD OCCUR OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

FUTURE GROWTH IS TO BE CONCENTRATED IN REINVESTMENT AREAS AND INCLUDE [NOISE] A BALANCE OF INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT.

THIS SITE IS PERFECT FOR THAT, FOR REINVESTMENT.

THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

IT WILL INCLUDE MULTIFAMILY AND A COMMERCIAL OFFICE, AS WELL AS ONE ACRE THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED AT A FUTURE DATE.

MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS THAT INCLUDE OFFICE SPACE AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED ALONG CORRIDORS IN THIS AREA TYPE ARE SUPPORTED IN THE FLAGSTAFF REGIONAL PLAN 2020 GOALS AND POLICIES.

THE PROJECT PROVIDES A SENSE OF PLACE WITH EACH OF THE UNIT HAVING A BACKYARD AND PROMPT PATIO.

THIS IS A DEPICTION OF WHAT THE FRONT OF THE UNITS WILL LOOK LIKE.

THIS WILL ALLOW THE RESIDENTS TO REALLY HAVE A SENSE OF OWNERSHIP WITH THE UNIT.

IT'S THEIR HOME, AND WE REALLY WANT TO CREATE THAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE RESIDENTS.

THERE'LL BE ABLE TO SIT ON THEIR FRONT PATIOS AND ENJOY THE TREE-LINED STREETS.

THE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE WOOD FRAME SLAB ON GRADE.

THE EXTERIORS WILL FEATURE LP SMART CITING AND CORRUGATED METAL WILL HAVE LOW VOC AND FORMALDEHYDE FREE MATERIALS WILL BE IN THE CARPET AND PAINT AND CABINETS.

OUR BUILDINGS WILL BE ALL ELECTRIC, NO GAS WILL BE INSTALLED.

WE'LL BE DOING ALL ELECTRIC ENERGY STAR APPLIANCES AND HVAC AND TO MAKE OUR BUILDINGS MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT, WE WILL SPRAY OPEN CELL FOAM ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE ROOFING DECK.

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THIS CREATES A CONDITIONS SPACE ON THE INTERIOR OF THE TRUSSES AND MAKES THE HEATING AND COOLING MORE EFFICIENT, WILL ALSO INSTALL A HIGH-QUALITY VINYL WINDOWS AND DENSE FOAM INSULATION ON THE SIDES OF THE SLABS.

HIGH-DENSITY FOAM IS ALSO INSTALLED FOR ALL PENETRATION AND WINDOW OPENINGS ARE WINDOWS WILL BE HIGH-QUALITY QUALITY VINYL AND OUR BUILDINGS ARE ALSO WRAPPED IN TYVEK, WHICH PREVENTS LEAKS AND DECAY AND HELPS TO PREVENT AIR PENETRATION INTO THE BUILDINGS.

TRASH AND RECYCLING RECEPTACLES WILL BE PROVIDED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT WITH SIGNAGE TO EDUCATE TENANTS ON RECYCLABLE MATERIALS.

ALL TOWN HOMES WILL ALSO INCLUDE DOUBLE HEAVY-DUTY HIDDEN WASTE BASKETS IN THE KITCHEN CABINETS TO PROMOTE RECYCLING.

OUR PROPERTY MANAGER ROLE INCLUDE MATERIALS TO RESIDENTS, AT LEAST SIGNING OUT WHAT ITEMS MAY BE RECYCLED AND WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION ON LOCAL VALLEYS SERVICES FOR RECYCLING AND COMPOSTING AND HOW THEY CAN LEARN MORE WAYS TO RECYCLE BY CONTACTING THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM.

DURING CONSTRUCTION, THE DEVELOPER WILL HAVE A PLAN FOR RECYCLING AND WE'LL REUSE NATIVE MATERIALS ON-SITE TO THE EXTENT FEASIBLE.

ALL OF OUR UNITS WILL HAVE A BEDROOM ON THE MAIN LEVEL AND ALOFT UPSTAIRS.

THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE 26, ONE BEDROOM UNITS 26, THREE-BEDROOM UNITS, AND 122 BEDROOM UNITS WILL HAVE THE ABILITY WITH A PARKING RATIO TO MIX THESE UNITS.

WE MAY HAVE MORE TWO-BEDROOM UNITS, OR ONE OR THREES DEPENDING ON MARKET DEMAND.

THAT WILL BE AN ABILITY FOR US TO DETERMINE BASED ON MARKET.

ONE BEDROOMS ARE ABOUT 813 SQUARE FEET, TWO BEDROOMS, APPROXIMATELY 1,071 SQUARE FEET, AND THREE BEDROOMS OR APPROXIMATELY 1,340 SQUARE FEET.

A SINGLE TRACK TRAIL WILL BE INSTALLED IN THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF THE SITE AND THIS WILL PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY TO THE FLUX OF URBAN TRAIL NETWORK AND PROMOTE ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, WHICH ALSO SUPPORTS THE SUSTAINABILITY AND CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS.

WITH THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING HERE, THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO PARK WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AND MAY ACCESS THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, EITHER OFF WHETHER OR WITHIN THE PROJECT AND OFF OF FIVE-FOOT SIDEWALKS AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE TOO IS THIS FUTURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WILL PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY FOR RESIDENTS TO NEARBY COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS LOCATED IN THE PROXIMITY OF THE PROJECT AND WITHIN ONE-FOURTH MILE AND WE WILL BE CONTRIBUTING A CASH IN LIEU CONTRIBUTION, AS PATRICK MENTIONED BEFORE AND THIS IS FOR THE BUTLER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND FOR THE FUTURE WATERLINE EXTENSION.

THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING WILL BE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 2,806 SQUARE FEET.

THIS WILL ALSO INCLUDE A FITNESS CENTER, A KITCHENETTE, MEETING AND RECREATION AREA, AND A LEASING OFFERS FOR THE COMPLEX.

THE SECOND LEVEL, THE BUILDING WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 2,154 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE AVAILABLE FOR RENT AND JUST TO GO OVER SOME OF THE BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A THOUGHTFUL PROJECT AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE SPENT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME TRYING TO FIT THE RIGHT DESIGN AND THE RIGHT UNITS FOR THIS SITE TO MAXIMIZE THE SITE AND TO ALSO CONSIDER THE RENTS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THIS SITE ON AN INFILL AND THE MIDDLE OF FLAGSTAFF IS A BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY BRINGING 172 UNITS TO FLAGSTAFF, VOLUNTARILY OFFERING 5% OF THE UNITS DESIGNATED PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE FOR 30 YEARS.

WE DID NOT TAKE ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCENTIVES.

WE'RE ALSO OFFERING CASH IN LIEU CONTRIBUTIONS, AS I MENTIONED, FOR OFF-SITE PUBLIC WATER MAIN AND FOR THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS ON BUTLER.

THIS WILL BE AN ALL ELECTRIC DEVELOPMENT WITH ENERGY STAR APPLIANCES AND HVAC.

NO SUSTAINABILITY INCENTIVES WERE TAKEN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT EITHER WERE VOLUNTARILY OFFERING ON THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS.

RECYCLING AND WASTE MANAGEMENT ONSITE AND DURING CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESERVING AN ADDITIONAL 5% OF THE TREE RESOURCES.

THIS WILL BE A LOW-IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE FOOTS CONNECTIVITY.

WE'LL BE DOING FOR EV READY PARKING SPACES AND ONE EV DUAL PORT STATION AND THIS IS EXCEEDING THE CODE REQUIREMENTS 40 BICYCLE PARKING FACILITIES, THIS IS OVER 220% ABOVE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE AND WE'LL HAVE THE CODE REQUIRED 18 UNCOVERED WILL BE DOING 24 COVERED BICYCLE SPACES AND 16 UNCOVERED.

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WE'RE PRESERVING AN ADDITIONAL 1.48 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE ABOVE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE, AND OFFERING AN ADDITIONAL 0.11 ACRES OF CIVIC SPACE ABOVE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL?

>> ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL?

>> LET'S SAVE COMMENTS FOR AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION.

WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENTARY.

TYLER DENHAM.

>> HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

TYLER DENHAM HERE.

I AGREE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THE P&Z COMMISSION VOTE.

BUT I'M ACTUALLY NOT HERE TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE THE REZONING.

I'M JUST INTERESTED IN HAVING TWO QUESTIONS ANSWERED BY CITY STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER.

THE FIRST QUESTION, THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS 11 UNITS PER ACRE, ABOUT HALF THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY UNDER HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONING.

I'M CURIOUS WHY THERE IS SUCH A LARGE GAP.

WOULD THE MARKET NOT SUPPORT ADDITIONAL UNITS AT THIS LOCATION? DO PERHAPS GEOGRAPHICAL FEATURES SUCH AS STEEP SLOPES PREVENT HIGHER DENSITIES? OR IS SOME OTHER ASPECT OF THE ZONING LIKE PARKING MANDATES, SETBACKS, FLOOR AREA RATIOS, WHATEVER, ACTING AS A PSEUDO DENSITY LIMIT BEYOND WHAT THE ZONING SEEMINGLY ALLOWS? THE SECOND QUESTION, THE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT APPEAR TO UTILIZE ANY OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCENTIVES AND FLAGSTAFF ZONING CODE, THE INCENTIVES ONLY WORK IF UTILIZED.

THE FACT THAT THEY WERE IGNORED INDICATES THE INCENTIVES NEED TO BE ADJUSTED, WHICH TO BE FAIR THE CITY ALREADY INTENDS TO CONSIDER DURING THE ONCOMING ZONING AUDIT.

BUT IT WOULD BE INSIGHTFUL TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER OR CITY STAFF WHY THE CURRENT INCENTIVES WEREN'T VALUABLE ENOUGH TO UTILIZE FOR THIS PROJECT, AND THOSE ARE THE TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH TYLER.

CHARITY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO THOSE TWO?

>> CERTAINLY, SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS SITE, OF COURSE, WE WERE ENCOURAGED, I SHOULD SAY.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ACTIVITY CENTER AND THE DENSITY OF REQUIREMENTS ON THIS SITE, WE ARE ENCOURAGED TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE SITE AND WHICH WE DID.

WHICH WE CERTAINLY EXPLORED.

WE LOOKED AT USING THE PONDEROSA PARKWAY FLOOR PLANS, WHICH IS A 3STOREY HIGH DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE WERE EVALUATING THE SITE WITH A RESOURCE PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS OF 30%, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, THE SETBACKS REQUIREMENTS, THE BUFFERING, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE IN THE CODE, WE REALLY WEREN'T ABLE TO GET VERY MANY MORE UNITS, BUT THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION, IF WE WERE TO HAVE GONE WITH THE PONDEROSA PARKWAY THROUGH THREE STORY BUILDINGS, WAS SO MUCH GREATER THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD THESE UNITS FOR.

THAT IT REALLY DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY YOU'RE NOT SEEING FIVE STORY BUILDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THE SITE BECAUSE WE DID EVALUATE IT.

IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.

>> IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, I BELIEVE DURING THE P&Z MEETING, CHRIS POINTED OUT THAT YOU WERE HAVING TO INSTALL ELEVATORS, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I MEAN, AT THE PONDEROSA PARKWAY DEVELOPMENT.

>> RIGHT. I'M CHRIS KEMMERLY WITH MIRAMONTE HOMES.

OBVIOUSLY, THE MORE UNITS WE GET, THE BETTER IT IS FOR US, SO THAT'S JUST ECONOMICS.

WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO TRY TO DO MAXIMIZE SITE, WHICH IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH HAVING MORE HOUSING IN FLAGSTAFF.

THE SLOPE ORDINANCE, THE TREE ORDINANCE, SO PARKING ORDINANCE, ALL THESE ORDINANCES, WE HAVE TO MEET THOSE ORDINANCES ALONG WITH THE REGIONAL PLAN.

WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY WHAT WE CAN DO BY SOME OF THE CODES.

WE TAKE THOSE CODES, WE PLAY BY THE RULES.

WE DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY INCENTIVES, BUT WITH ALL THE SLOPES ON THAT, IT JUST MAKES IT TOUGH TO GET ANY MORE UNITS.

THERE IS ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY, WE BUILT THOSE PRODUCTS IN TUCSON.

WE'RE BUILDING UP ON THE MCMILLAN MESA, WE'RE BUILDING IT IN MISSOULA, MONTANA.

THIS IS A TRUE SENSE OF PLACE.

IT'S A TOWN HOME.

THEY OPEN THEIR DOOR.

IT'S A LOFT, SO THEY HAVE 20-FOOT CLEAR.

THEY HAVE THEIR BEDROOM, THE MASTER'S DOWNSTAIRS, THE KITCHEN, THE LIVING AREA.

THEY HAVE A OPEN LOFT AREA,

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THEY CAN USE THAT FOR THE KIDS ROOM, THE OFFICE, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO USE IT AND THEN IF THERE'S TWO BEDROOMS, THERE'S ANOTHER BEDROOM UPSTAIRS.

IF THERE'S THREE BEDROOMS, THERE'S ANOTHER BEDROOM UPSTAIRS.

BUT IN LIEU OF A STANDARD 3 STORY GARDEN STYLE APARTMENT, PEOPLE REALLY HAVE A SENSE OF PLACE HERE AND SO IT'S A REAL HOME AND THESE OTHER PROJECTS HAVE BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL AND WELL ACCEPTED AND I THINK ESPECIALLY IN FLAGSTAFF WITH A BACKYARD, NOTHING WAS MENTIONED, BUT WE HAVE A STORAGE UNIT IN THE BACK SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE STORAGE IN THEIR OWN HOUSE.

BUT TO DIRECTLY ANSWER THE GENTLEMAN'S QUESTION, THAT'S REALLY THE CODES AND THE RESTRICTION, SO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THEM.

>> THANK YOU, AND THE SECOND QUESTION REGARDING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCENTIVES?

>> THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SUSTAINABILITY INCENTIVES PROVIDE MORE DENSITY AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THOSE FACTORS WITH PARKING RESERVES PROTECTION, WE MAXED OUT THE SITE.

WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ADD ANY MORE UNITS REALLY, SO THAT WAS ONE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T TAKE ANY INCENTIVES BECAUSE WE HAD ALREADY MAXED IT OUT.

>> THANK YOU. STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THOSE ANSWERS?

>> [BACKGROUND].

>> ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? EXCUSE ME ONE MOMENT.

I'M JUST CHECKING ON SOMETHING.

ANY COMMENTS AND THEN I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS HAD A COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND MY APPRECIATION AND GRATITUDE TO, IS IT CHARITY?

>> CHARITY AND CHRIS KEMMERLY.

>> JUST IN LOOKING AT ALL THAT YOU STEPPED UP AND PROVIDING, YOU'VE EXCEEDED A LOT OF MINIMAL EXPECTATIONS AND IT LOOKS LIKE A REALLY GREAT PROJECTS.

I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE EFFORT THAT YOU PUT INTO IT AND THE CONSCIOUSNESS THAT YOU PUT INTO PROVIDING SUCH A GREAT PRODUCT FOR OUR CITY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I AM GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

JUST A SECOND, AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEW'S HAD A MOTION.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I MOVE THAT WE READ ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-06 BY TITLE, ONLY FOR THE FIRST TIME.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. CITY CLERK.

>> IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, AMENDING THE FLAGSTAFF ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 17.12 ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 2950 EAST BUTLER AVENUE FROM THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL, RR, AND THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL MR ZONES TO THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL HC ZONE WITH CONDITIONS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AUTHORITY FOR CLERICAL CORRECTIONS, AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT AND THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALSO TO PLANNING AND ZONING FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION OF THE PROJECT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11,

[A. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2023-13: A resolution authorizing the City of Flagstaff to loan one-hundred thousand dollars ($100,000) to Foundation for Senior Living, or its successor, as gap financing for a Low-Income Housing Tax Credit application under the Arizona Department of Housing's 2022-2023 Qualified Allocation Plan STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: 1) Read Resolution No. 2023-13 by title only 2) City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2023-13 by title only (if approved above) 3) Adopt Resolution No. 2023-13]

REGULAR AGENDA ITEM A IS CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-13, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF TO LOAN $100,000 TO THE FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR LIVING OR ITS SUCCESSOR AS GAP FINANCING FOR A LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT APPLICATION UNDER THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSINGS 2022-23 QUALIFIED ALLOCATION PLAN.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. [LAUGHTER] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JEN MICKELSON, I'M THE HOUSING ANALYST HERE AT THE CITY, AND I'LL BE PRESENTING ON THIS ITEM.

I JUST HAVE A HANDFUL OF SLIDES TO WALK US THROUGH THIS REQUEST.

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CAN EVERYONE SEE THAT?

>> YES.

GREAT.

>> GREAT. TONIGHT, I'M HERE TO ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A STANDBY LOAN OF $100,000 TO SUPPORT FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR LIVINGS, 2023 TAX CREDIT APPLICATION.

AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR LIVING, OR FSL, I'LL CALL THEM, IS A LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT DEVELOPER PROPOSING A 100% AFFORDABLE RENTAL DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN CALLED SAN FRANCISCO SQUARE APARTMENTS, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE SITE OF THE OLD ST. MARY'S CATHOLIC SCHOOL.

I'D LIKE TO START EVERYONE OFF WITH A VERY BRIEF EXPLANATION OF WHAT THE LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM IS AND HOW IT WORKS.

JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE, THE PROGRAM IS MOST OFTEN REFERRED TO BY ITS ALLY, HTC, OR LIHTC.

THE LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT IS A COMPLEX BUT CRITICAL TOOL FOR THE CREATION AND PRESERVATION OF AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING.

IN VERY BROAD TERMS, THE WAY THIS PROGRAM WORKS IS PRIVATE INVESTORS RECEIVE A FEDERAL INCOME TAX CREDIT AS AN INCENTIVE TO MAKE EQUITY INVESTMENTS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THIS IS AN IRS PROGRAM THAT ORIGINATED IN THE '80S AND CONTINUES TO BE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM NATIONALLY, WITH EACH STATE ADMINISTERING ITS OWN PROGRAM.

HOW DOES THE PROCESS WORK IN ARIZONA? ON THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING ADMINISTERS THE TAX CREDIT PROGRAM THROUGH AN ANNUAL APPLICATION PROCESS THAT IS GOVERNED BY A DOCUMENT CALLED THE QUALIFIED ALLOCATION PLAN.

THIS PLAN LAYS OUT DIFFERENT SCORING OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPERS APPLYING FOR TAX CREDITS.

THIS PROCESS IS HIGHLY COMPETITIVE.

DEVELOPERS TRY TO SCORE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF POINTS POSSIBLE ON THEIR APPLICATIONS.

THE HIGHER THE SCORE, THE GREATER THEIR CHANCES OF AN AWARD.

IF AWARDED TAX CREDITS, DEVELOPERS WILL SELL THE CREDITS TO INVESTORS IN EXCHANGE FOR CAPITAL TO CONSTRUCT THEIR AFFORDABLE PROJECTS.

THIS REDUCES THE NEED FOR DEVELOPERS TO FINANCE THE PROJECTS AND WITH LESS DEBT TO PAY BACK.

THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE OR THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE RENTS AT THEIR PROPERTIES.

THE DEVELOPER REQUESTING THIS LOAN IS FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR LIVING.

THEY'RE A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION WHOSE MISSION IS TO PROVIDE HOME AND COMMUNITY-BASED SERVICES AND DEVELOP ENERGY-EFFICIENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO PROMOTE HEALTH, INDEPENDENCE, AND DIGNITY FOR ALL.

THEY ARE A LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT DEVELOPER WITH HISTORY AND FLAGSTAFF.

THEY BUILT THE FLAGSTAFF SENIOR MEADOWS, WHICH IS A LIHTC PROPERTY ON MACMILLAN MESA WITH 60 AFFORDABLE RENTAL UNITS FOR SENIORS WITH A VERY LONG WAITLIST I'M SURE.

THEY ARE NOW PROPOSING A 70-UNIT, 100% AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 320 NORTH HUMPHREY STREET.

WHY ARE THEY REQUESTING THIS LOAN? IN THIS YEAR'S QUALIFIED ALLOCATION PLAN, IT INCLUDES A SCORING CATEGORY FOR LOCAL GAP FINANCING, WHICH ENCOURAGES DEVELOPERS TO SEEK ADDITIONAL FUNDING BEYOND JUST THE ALLOCATION OF TAX CREDITS.

THE PLAN STATES THAT IF A COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF MARICOPA OR PIMA COUNTY IS CONTRIBUTING FUNDS, THEY NEED TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF $100,000 TO RECEIVE THESE POINTS.

NOW, FSL IS CURRENTLY PURSUING A MORE SUBSTANTIAL LOAN THROUGH THE FEDERAL HOME LOAN BANK OF SAN FRANCISCO, WHICH, IF SUCCESSFUL, WOULD NEGATE THE NEED FOR A LOAN FROM THE CITY.

IF THEY CANNOT SECURE THAT FUNDING.

THIS RESOLUTION, IF APPROVED, WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO EXECUTE A DEED OF TRUST AND PROMISSORY NOTE FOR THAT LOAN.

I'LL REVIEW THE LONG TERMS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THIS LOAN WOULD BE CONTINGENT UPON THE AWARD OF TAX CREDITS FROM THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING.

BY JUNE OF THIS YEAR, WE WOULD KNOW THAT INFORMATION.

THE $100,000 WOULD HAVE A TERM OF 30 YEARS AT 3% INTEREST.

ANNUAL INTEREST PAYMENTS WOULD BE MADE ON A CASH FLOW BASIS, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH SIMILAR LOANS WE'VE MADE IN THE PAST.

AT THE END OF THE 30-YEAR TERM, THERE IS A BALLOON PAYMENT ON THE PRINCIPAL PLUS ANY DEFERRED INTERESTS.

AS MENTIONED IN THE LAST SLIDE, THIS IS A STANDBY LOAN.

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IF FSL RECEIVES FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL HOME LOAN BANK, A LOAN FROM THE CITY WILL NOT BE NECESSARY.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I BELIEVE STEVE HASTINGS FROM FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR LIVING IS ON THE LINE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM SPECIFICALLY.

>> THANK YOU, JEN. STEVE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY BEFORE I OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS?

>> I APPRECIATE THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL INVOLVED.

MS. MICHAELSON, THANK YOU, MAYOR DAGGETT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT SPECIAL THANKS TO THE CITY STAFF THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, THIS DESK HARD TO PULL OFF, BUT PARK FLAG YOU'RE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, YOUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT, THEY'VE ALL BEEN ABLE TO RISE TO EVERY OCCASION HAS COME UP WHEN WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW OCCASIONS OVER OUR DEVELOPMENT.

I'M STEVE HASTINGS.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE SERVICES FOR THE FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR LIVING.

I THINK MS. MICHAELSON DESCRIBED IT WELL.

I'LL JUST STOP THERE AND STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE HAVE A COMMENT AND IT LOOKS LIKE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THE INFORMATION ON THIS.

IT'S A VERY EXCITING PROJECT AND PERSONALLY AN EXCITING ONE FOR ME IN TERMS OF THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE TENURE HOUSING PLAN.

I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POINTS IN THIS THAT I NOTED IN THE DESCRIPTION OF HOW IT ADVANCES THAT PLAN IS ADVANCING PROTECT TOO WHICH SAYS THAT IT WILL ENSURE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A PART OF EVERY FLAGSTAFF NEIGHBORHOOD AND WORK TO ADDRESS DISPARATE IMPACTS AS PART OF ANY DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT.

THE EXCITING THING IN THIS IS JUST THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET SO MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY GOALS AND ADVANCE THIS IMPORTANT EFFORT FOR OUR CITY, PARTICULARLY AS WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS OF ADVANCING HOUSING.

I THINK WE'VE SEEN THAT IN MANY WAYS DURING OUR CONVERSATIONS TONIGHT.

THIS IS YET ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO THAT.

I WILL YIELD AT THAT IN CASE THERE ARE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THEN I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION WHEN IT'S TIME.

>> VERY WELL SAID.

I THINK WE'LL TAKE YOUR MOTION.

>> I MOVE TO READ RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-13 BY TITLE ONLY.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> ANY OPPOSED? CITY CLERK.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

> THANK YOU, STEVE.

>> A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF TO PROVIDE $100,000 TO A FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR LIVING AS STANDBY LOCAL GAP FINANCING FOR A LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECT UNDER THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING ADOH 2000-3 QUALIFIED ALLOCATION PLAN QAP.

>> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT?

>> I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-13.

>> THANKS SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

>> THANKS, EVERYONE.