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[00:00:03]

[OVERLAPPING]

>> I NEED EVERYBODY TO TAKE THEIR SITS.

WE WILL GET [INAUDIBLE] . MAYOR WOULD YOU LIKE TO KICK US OFF THIS MORNING, PLEASE?

>> YES. I'M SORRY [INAUDIBLE]. OKAY, SO TODAY IS FRIDAY,

[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this work session, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]

APRIL 28TH, 2023, OUR THIRD DAY OF OUR CITY COUNCIL FROM THE HISTORY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

NOW, THIS IS HEREBY GIVEN TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT IF THIS WORKS THAT THEY HAVE THIS BUDGET SESSION, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, LIBERAL BUYERS, AND DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY'S ATTORNEYS FOR ANY ITEM LISTED BY THE FOLLOWING AGENDA.

CITY CLERK, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL?

>> MAYOR DAGGETT.

>> HERE.

>> VICE MAYOR, ASLAN.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER KHARA HOUSE.

COUNCILMEMBER KHARA HOUSE? WE WILL PICK COUNCILMEMBER MATTHEWS.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER SWEET.

>> HERE.

>> I WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

[INAUDIBLE].

>> MAYBE THAT ONE HANGING OUTSIDE, WE KNOW WHERE IT IS.

>> IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FACING NORTH.

>> NORTH.

[NOISE]

>> I'M SORRY.

>> LET ME.

>> CAN YOU READ PERMISSION STATE.

>> THE CITY AND WHY IS THAT THE QUALITY?

>> GO AHEAD. COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY, THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

>> AS I SAID YESTERDAY, YOU COUNSEL, NEUROLOGISTS AND ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS, IS THIS AREA'S INDIGENOUS NATIONS.

STILL INHABITED BY DESCENDING ORDER OF MAPPING, SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.

THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR CONVICTIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.

WE CELEBRATE THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL EVER NOTICE PLACE AS [INAUDIBLE]

>> COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS, I'M SORRY, BUT COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE HAS MADE YOU SIT NEXT TO ME.

OKAY. SO ITEM NUMBER 4 IS OUR BUDGET RETREAT TAKEAWAY.

[4. City Council FY 2023-24 Budget Retreat Present City Manager's Recommended Budget for the Fiscal Year 2023-2024 and receive Council direction.]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING THE AMERICAN FLAG DISPLAYED FOR THE PLACE I'M GOING TO OWN THAT POINT.

WILL GET IT RIGHT NEXT TIME.

I HOPE EVERYBODY IS DOING WELL YESTERDAY WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD DIALOGUE THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

IT WAS ENGAGING WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE AND WE HOPE THAT THAT CONTINUES AGAIN TODAY.

I WANT TO START OFF WITH A COUPLE OF THANK YOU'S IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WONDERFUL FOOD AND COFFEE AND TOBACCO.

JOHNSON AND JOHNSON.

AND THEN YES, IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, WE HAVE HOMEMADE COOKIES THIS MORNING COURTESY OF SHANNON ANDERSON. THANK YOU, SHANNON.

AND THEN BEFORE YOU TURN IT BACK OVER TO KATIE AND WE WILL LAUNCH INTO BUSINESS, WE MADE SOME HEADWAY YESTERDAY.

AND THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE WE WILL SPILL OVER INTO TODAY BEING AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE PREDICTIONS, BUT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF ENDING THE DAY EARLY AND STARTING THIS BEAUTIFUL WEEKEND ON A GOOD NOTE.

AND ON THE GOOD NOTE TOPICS.

I'M GOING TO GO OFF SCRIPT AND ASK YOU, LAST WEEK WE HAD AN ENTOURAGE GO TO WASHINGTON DC.

AND I'M WONDERING IF FOR THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THAT TRIP, IF YOU COULD STAND IN SHARP.

SO THESE DC TRIPS, JAN AND YOU WERE ON THAT TRIP, NIGHT FRY, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL THE QUESTIONS ABOUT WELL, WHAT IS THE RELEVANCE OF THESE TRIPS TO PHOENIX TO DC? WELL, THERE'S AN EASY ANSWER.

IT'S RELATIONSHIP-BUILDING.

WE MEET WITH OUR DELEGATES IN PHOENIX, WE MEET WITH OUR DELEGATES IN WASHINGTON DC.

THE AGENDAS ARE ACTION-PACKED.

TYPICALLY 910 MEETINGS IN A DAY.

YOU'RE RUNNING FROM ONE OFFICE TO THE NEXT AND COVERING A LOT OF GROUND.

THERE'S ALSO A VERY TANGIBLE BENEFITS.

SO THREE YEARS AGO,

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BEFORE COVID, WHEN WE WENT TO DC, WE HAD A NICE APPROPRIATION FROM THE ARMY CORPS TO HELP US WITH OUR V0.

THERE'S BLACK PROJECT.

THIS TIME AROUND.

COURTESY OF THIS GROUP, WE RECEIVED SOME GOOD NEWS YESTERDAY FROM SENATOR CINEMAS OFFICE.

WE DO CARE TO READ THAT EMAIL.

>> ABSOLUTELY. MAYOR DID TALK TO HER YESTERDAY AS WELL.

AND SHE HAS PUT ALL THREE OF OUR EARMARKS REQUEST IN FERTILIZED.

SO THAT INCLUDES THE 337,000 FOR THE PRESCRIBED FIRE TRAINING EXCHANGE.

REMEMBER, SUITE WAS IN CHARGE OF THAT WONDERING OUR TRIM.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD THE 3,000,300 FOR THE REGIONAL FLOOD DETENTION PROJECTS.

SO WE GOT THAT ON THE LIST AS WELL.

AND LET ME ADD THE 4.5 MILLION FOR THE PROPOSED NORTHERN ARIZONA PIONEERING HOSPITAL FACILITY TO GET US OUR FIRE STATION.

SO THAT'S OUR MAXIMUM FIRES.

BIG ROUNDUP IS A GREAT WAY TO START THE BUDGET RETREAT.

>> WE JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THE FINE WORK BUT FOR DC.

SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

COUNCILMEMBER SWEET, YOU DO HAVE A TECHNIQUE. NOW, YOU WANT TO SHARE IT WITH THE GROUPS.

AND NOW, GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO KICK IT OFF TO KATIE.

ARE YOU READY?

>> YES, SIR. [OVERLAPPING]

>> GOOD MORNING. SO SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY.

WE WILL BE STARTING OFF WITH THE KEY COMMUNITY PRIORITIES WITH HEIDI HANSON.

AND WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THAT SECTION OFF THE APOLLO NICOLE, AND WE'LL GO INTO FUTURE PLANNING.

OUR GOAL IS TO GET THROUGH THAT.

FOR OUR 10:00 A.M. BREAK.

WE'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT.

BUT THAT'S THE GOAL.

AND THEN WE'RE STILL PLANNING ON HAVING LUNCH AT 11:30.

SO WE WILL ADJUST AS NEEDED DEPENDING ON QUESTIONS AND EXTRA TIME FOR DISCUSSION.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, AFTER WE CONCLUDE TODAY'S MEETING, THERE'LL BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSIONS AND EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO PICK UP SICK.

WISH EVERYONE A WHILE WEEKEND AND THEN THEY'LL START THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AGENDA FOR TODAY? OKAY.

THEN TEST. NOW AS A REMINDER, I'M HERE TO HELP US MANAGE TIME.

YOU WILL HAVE A LITTLE REMINDER IF YOU'RE PRESENTING A FIVE-MINUTE REMINDER AND THEN A ONE-MINUTE REMINDER TO HELP KEEP YOU ON TIME.

REMEMBER THAT AS FOR ENGAGING IN DISCUSSION, WE'RE HERE TO ASK QUESTIONS, MAKE SURE WE'RE UNDERSTANDING, CLARIFY OUT REALLY NOT INTO THE PROBLEM-SOLVING OR THE HOW OF TODAY.

SO ONE OF MY OTHER ROLES IS TO MAKE SURE WE STAY.

I'M OUT OF THE WEEDS AND ON TOPIC.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS.

OF COURSE WE HAVE THAT TIME BUILT-IN AS WELL.

AND I WILL ALSO BE MANAGING THE ONLINE COMMENTS.

SO AS YOU'RE ONLINE, YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT.

YOU CAN USE THE CHAT BOX OR RAISE YOUR DIGITAL HAND.

AND ONE OF MY OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO KEEP THE ENERGY YET.

SO LET'S DO ONE QUICK ROUND OF LET'S SETTLE IT AND WE'LL GET STARTED WITH HEIDI. ARE YOU READY? YEAH. OKAY. SO THIS IS ANOTHER LINE AND PEOPLE TEND TO FEEL VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT FIVE AWAY.

MANY OF YOU CAME TO ME AFTER YESTERDAY AND SAID, I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE TOILET PAPER.

SORRY, GO THAN ONE CORRECT WAY TO DO THIS.

MAYOR WHO WAS WATCHING ONLINE WHO SAID PINEAPPLE DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU.

AND I WERE SAYING, OH, IT DOES.

SHARE THE PHOTO I SHARED WITH YOU.

WHY DON'T YOU TELL EVERYONE ABOUT IT?

>> WAS REFERENCED AND THERE WAS ONE QUOTE THIS WAY. THIS WAY.

SO I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT.

ANYBODY LIKE TO READ NEXT TWO TERMS? IT TAKES A PHOTO. YEAH.

>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING. OKAY. SO THIS ONE'S A BIG ONE.

ARE YOU READY? WHICH ONE IS BETTER? IPHONE OR ANDROID AND IPHONE OR ANDROID.

SO WHEN YOU'RE READY, MAKE SURE YOU'RE READY.

RAISE YOUR HAND FOR IPHONE.

NOW RAISE YOUR HAND FOR ANDROID PHONE. WOW, THAT'S CLOSE. A FEW MORE VOTES.

[FOREIGN]

[00:20:31]

>> I THINK AN ADJUSTMENT FROM YESTERDAY IT'S,

[00:20:34]

WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO SET UP,

[00:20:36]

WE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE FOLLOWED THE LAST SPEAKER, EVEN IF THEY ARE IN THE SAME SECTION IN THE AGENDA.

>> YEAH.

>> LET ME JUST COME UP HERE.

HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

ON MY JOURNEY HERE I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY NOW FOR ABOUT FIVE OR SIX MONTHS.

IT IS A REALLY GOOD COMMUNITY AND THERE'S LOT OF GREAT PROGRAMS AND THE CITY DOES A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

IT ACTUALLY MAKE IT MORE VISIBLE IN PUBLIC WORKS IS IT'S THERE IN GOOGLE GODREJ, THE PARKS AND RECREATION SUSTAINABILITY.

I'M GOING TO GET A SLIDE MORE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

FOR INCREASED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WE STARTED THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT.

THEY DO A GREAT JOB ON ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY THROUGH ADDITIONAL OUTREACH PLATFORMS, WAS GOING TO PRESS RELEASES.

I BELIEVE I'VE SAW TWO COME THROUGH YESTERDAY.

REMEMBER YESTERDAY WE GOT SOME EMAILS.

THEY ALSO GET POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

THEY HAVE GREATER USE OF INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, OR FACEBOOK.

WE ALSO HAVE PROJECTS, SPECIFIC WEBSITES, WHAT WE'RE DOING COUPLE OF PROJECTS, OR RESIDENTS IN THE AREA OF THIS PROJECT CAN SIGN UP FOR EMAIL BLASTS.

THAT'S BEEN A BIG WORK AS WELL.

FOR RELATIONSHIP BUILDING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD LIAISON, WE HAVE THE EVERYBODY PARTNERSHIP COALITION AND THEY RECENTLY HAD A MEETING ON APRIL 19TH, AND THAT'S COMPRISED OF RESIDENTS, STUDENTS, AND UNIT ADMINISTRATORS OF BUSINESS OWNERS.

REALLY ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY AROUND THE COLLEGE AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THOSE AREAS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE COLLEGE.

FOR MUSEUM, FLOOD, AND PIPELINE WEST FLOOD ON COMMUNITY AWARENESS.

NO COUNCIL HAS SEEN MANY PRESENTATIONS ABOUT ONCE A MONTH.

WE'RE PRESENTING A COUNCIL ON THE PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING ON THOSE, WHETHER THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HYBRID 180 PROJECT OR IT'S TOO SPLASH.

AGAIN, MAKING THE COMMUNITY AWARE FOR PUBLIC COUNCIL MEETINGS.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS FROM SPRUCE SPLASH AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME SPECIFIC CLASS AGENT NEWSLETTERS THAT OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS HELPS OUT WITH AS WELL.

THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS, COUNCIL RECENTLY SAW THAT I THINK ON APRIL 11TH MEETING THROUGH OUR HOUSING AND THERE WAS A RECOMMENDED AWARD OF $1.9 MILLION AND COUNCIL SHOULD SEE THOSE CONTRACTS CALLING BACK BEFORE SUMMER BREAK OR 42,000 BOND FUNDS AS IT TAKE AND HOUSING PLAN OF COUNCIL ALL THESE I BELIEVE BACK IN FEBRUARY, I THINK I'LL UNDERSTAND AND YOU'LL SEE MORE OF THAT COMING UP CAUSING THEM AS WELL.

FOR THE AIRPORT RECRUITING IN THEIR SERVICE AND NEW DESTINATIONS, WE HAVE THE RECOGNITION OF BARGAINING FOR HIS RETIREMENT, BUT WE ALSO SAW THAT PLAN TO OUR AIRPORT WAS NAMED THE AIRPORT DIRECTOR AND IF ANYBODY WHO ATTENDED THIS EVENT THROUGH HIS PLANS TO HANDLE THIS, HE'S GOING TO CONFERENCES TO PROMOTE THE AIRPORT.

HE TALKED ABOUT TRACKING FINAL DESTINATIONS OF TRAVELERS.

WE CAN SEE WHAT THOSE FINAL DESTINATIONS ARE, REPORT THAT TO THE DIFFERENT AIRLINES SO THEY CAN PERFECTLY MAKE NEW ROUTES.

WHEN PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING TO, I THINK YOU BROUGHT UP SAN FRANCISCO AS A FINAL DESTINATION THAT HE CAN TALK TO THE AIRLINES ABOVE, MIGHT WANT TO DO A SAN FRANCISCO ROUTE MAYBE ONCE A WEEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

EXPANDING OF THE FUNDING FOR THE ARTS AND SCIENCES AND

[00:25:02]

THE NON-PROFITS TO BE CREATIVE FLAGSTAFF THEY ARE OFFERING MORE FUNDING NOW.

WE'RE SEEING THEY ARE GIVING MORE GRANTS.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THAT'S REALLY GOOD, EXPANSIVE BEAUTIFICATION AND ACTION THESE ARE FOR THE SMALLER PROJECTS.

AGAIN, I THINK THE MAX WORTHS BETWEEN 4 AND 5 THOUSAND DOLLARS BUT AGAIN, THERE SEE MORE APPLICATIONS AS WELL.

THOSE HAVE REALLY DONE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS YOU SEE AROUND TOWN.

AGAIN, HELPING BEAUTIFY THE AREA.

THE STATE HAS BEEN ACCEPTABLE SMALL PLAY AREAS.

THERE'S NO PLAYER MAP WEBSITE AND THEY RECEIVE OVER 2,000 CALLS A YEAR.

THIS HELPS RESIDENTS AND MORE HOROSCOPE VISITORS KNOW WHERE THEY CAN GO AND HOW TO USE THOSE AREAS RESPONSIBLY, NOT LEAVE ANYTHING BEHIND THAT KNOWS WHAT OF SEE A LOT OF BROKEN SLEDS OR THEY CAN PICK THOSE UP.

WE'RE NOT PICKING THOSE UP.

ONCE THE SNOW MELTS.

I'LL KEEP OUR ENVIRONMENT CLEAN.

FOR THE DRINKING WATER AND SANITARY SEWER SYSTEMS, BEGIN OUR WATER SERVICES DEPARTMENT DOES A GREAT JOB, PROVIDING THE HIGH QUALITY SUSTAINABLE WATER DELIVERY TO THE CITY RESIDENTS AND THEN SANITARY SEWER.

THOSE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO UNSEEN.

PEOPLE JUST DON'T WHEN THEY TURN THEIR BOSS AND THEY WANT HELP, GOOD CLEAN WATER COME OUT AND THEY FLUSH THE TOILET, AND GOES AWAY.

[LAUGHTER]

>> IT TAKES A LOT THERE'S A LOT OF LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT.

WE RECENTLY HAD SOME BONDS APPROVED TO HELP WITH THAT AND THEN JUST THE DAY TO DAY OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE SYSTEM.

BIG THANKS TO THOSE GUYS.

OPERATING, AND MAINTAINING THE STORMWATER SYSTEM.

THE CITY MANAGER TALKED YESTERDAY ABOUT HOW STORMWATER IS GOING TO TALK WITH YOU BREAKING OUT INTO ITS OWN SECTION IS CURRENTLY HAVE TWO STAFF MEMBERS THERE, THEY INSPECT AND DO MAINTENANCE ON ABOUT A THIRD OF THE STORMWATER SYSTEM ANNUALLY.

THIS YEAR THAT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE SNOW MELTS BURNING ISSUES.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG HELP GETTING SOME MORE STAFF THERE AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR A PROJECT MANAGER.

THAT WILL ALSO HELP FREE UP SOME OF THE CAPITAL PROJECT STAFF THAT GETS SOME OF THOSE STORMWATER PROJECTS TURNED OVER TO THEM ONCE THE STORMWATER STAFF CURRENTLY GET THEM UP TO SPEED.

IMPLEMENTED INCOME-QUALIFYING HOMEOWNER LEAK REPAIR FIXTURE EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS. THE WATER SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS A PROGRAM THROUGH SOME GRANT FUNDING WHERE LAHORE IS LOWER INCOME-QUALIFYING HOMEOWNERS CAN APPLY TO HAVE LEAKS FIXED OR MORE EFFICIENT FIXTURES, FAUCETS, TOILETS INSTALLED IN THEIR HOUSE.

THE WATER SERVICES DEPARTMENT WILL GET THE PLUMBERS AND MAKE SURE THAT RIGHT FIXTURES ARE PUT IN.

THAT'S A GOOD PROGRAM AS WELL.

CAPITAL PROJECTS DELIVERY REPLACEMENT OF AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU'RE SEEING THAT RIGHT NOW IN COPING ESTATES, WHERE WE BE DOING AGING WATER, SEWER, RESURFACING THE STREETS, PUTTING HERB IN, PUTTING SIDEWALKS WHERE THERE'S GAPS.

WHEN WE DO THE SPRUCE WASH PROJECT ON GRANDVIEW, WHEN WE'LL BE PLACING THE AGING OF WATER AND SEWER AROUND THAT STREET AS WELL.

WE'VE GOT WANTED TO GO IN AND PUT IN A NEW STREETS AND THEN JUST TEAR IT UP IN FIVE,10 YEARS AS THE WATER AND SEWER FAILS.

WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE WATER SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COORDINATING CAPITAL PROJECTS AND DOING EVERYTHING AT ONCE.

BY PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS. AGAIN, THE CITY MANAGER TALKED ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION AND BREAKING THAT OUT INTO TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, DEPARTMENT AND SHARING.

ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, THAT'LL BE A BIG HELP FOR MARTIN, WHO'S OUR CURRENT ONLY TRANSPORTATION PLANNER.

HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT MIGHT BE STILL A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER PHYSICIAN THAT HAS BEEN OPENED FOR 20 MONTHS.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> WE HAVE A GRADUATE STUDENT FROM NAU THAT'S GOING TO BE JOINING OUR TEAM SO WE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG HELP FOR MARTIN.

AGAIN, WITH THIS BUDGET, WE HAVE ANOTHER TRANSPORTATION PLANNER.

WE WOULD HAVE THREE IN THAT GROUP. THAT'S A BIG DOLLAR.

THEN AGAIN THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN COMPONENTS.

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WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS, WHERE WE HAVE DEVELOPMENTS COME IN THAT ARE DOING STREET IMPROVEMENTS.

BARTON HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED NOW IN MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ATM FEE COMPONENTS ARE IN THOSE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING UP A LOT OF HIS TIME AWAY FROM DELIVERING FOOD TRAILS AND BIKINGS AND CROSSINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PIPELINE.

WITH THE NEW EMPLOYEE COMING ON AND HOPEFULLY THE NEW POSITION GETTING APPROVED, THAT'LL REALLY HELP AND PUSHING THOSE ITEMS FORWARD, AND SUPPORTING HEALTHY LIFESTYLE THROUGH OPEN SPACE.

>> YES, SIR.

WALK ME THROUGH THE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN TRANSPORTATION AND ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION A LITTLE BIT.

WELL, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION HABITS ON THE ENGINEER OR ARE YOU GOING TO BE FORCING? [OVERLAPPING]

>> THE MANY OF ENGINEERING.

>> YEAH. THE LIVABLE ENVISIONING IS OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER [INAUDIBLE] WILL BE IN THE SECTION LEADER OR SECOND DIRECTOR OVER TRANSPORTATION.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ENGINEERING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO HAVE ENGINEERS ON ONE SIDE AND ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLANNERS ON THE OTHER.

WE WORK CLOSELY TOGETHER.

THAT'S DIVISION ENGINEERING.

>> WHEN IT COMES TO THE DESIGN OF PARTICULAR FEATURES AND CONNECTIVITY, THAT WILL BE GOING THROUGH GENERAL ENGINEERING?

>> BUT IT WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLANNERS.

>> WE HAVE UNFUNDED BUT PRIORITIZED AN ASSOCIATE ENGINEERS POSITION IN THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT.

EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE AN ENGINEERING ELEMENT TO THAT, BUT AS PAUL MENTIONED, THAT THE TWO GROUPS WILL BE WORKING CLOSELY.

>> YEAH, THEY WANT EVERY PRODUCT THAT COMES TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

WE SEE BY THE SUBDIVISION COME IN, ENGINEERING.

IN FABRICATION PLANNING, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THOSE PLANTS AS WELL.

MAKE SURE THE PROPER ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE IN THEIR CONNECTIVITY, A TRAIL, ANY PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS THAT ARE NEEDED. IT'S REALLY EXCITING.

IT'S INCONSISTENCY.

WE'RE STARTING WITH THE BUTLER.

BUTLER RESORT INFLUENCE RIGHT NOW ARE REALLY TAKING A DEEP DIVE INTO WHAT'S THE BUTLER FORESTRY WILL LOOK LIKE, BUT IT'S ROUNDABOUT, IT'S SLIP LANES OR IT'S AN INTERSECTION FROM RELAYS.

I'M GOING TO TURN LANES.

WE'RE REALLY EVALUATING LEVEL OF SERVICE, BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.

SUSTAINABILITY IS IN THOSE MEETINGS LOOKING AT EMISSIONS.

WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT. IT'S EXCITING TIME.

AGAIN, FOR THE OPEN SPACE AND FOR THE FOOT'S TRAVELERS, PRO, THEY HAVE COUNTERS ALONG THE TRAIL SYSTEM, SO THEY CAN SEE IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO OPEN SPACE AREAS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING SPECIFIC TRAILS.

AGAIN, OVER 100,000 USERS VISITORS IN 2022 OPEN SPACE, AND 215,000 FOR THE FIRST TRAILS.

I DID MY FIRST TRAILS THE OTHER WEEK.

GOT LOST.

[LAUGHTER].

>> IT TOOK ME ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF TO BE BACK HOME.

>> BACK IN THE TRAIL.

[LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].

>> OR MAYBE, MARTIN, IT'S 215,000 A LOT?

>> I HAVE TO ASK MAYBE THE BACK.

THAT IS FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.

>> I JUST BEEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES TOO.

>> COME ON, OH BABY.

>> [INAUDIBLE] COME ON.

[LAUGHTER]

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.

>> THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.

[LAUGHTER].

>> WHAT CAN YOU SEE? WE HAVE OUR HIGH USE AREAS, BUFFALO PARK, BLUE TRAIL, MARS HILL.

WHERE WE SEE LOW USAGE, WHICH WAS SURPRISED ME, IS ON JOHN WESLEY POWELL ALONG BY KENYA WHERE THERE'S ASPHALT TRAIL.

I MEAN, THAT'S A TOTAL USERS OVER A 12-MONTH PERIOD.

I WOULD SAY, YOU SEE OBVIOUSLY HIGH MONTHS TO, AND EVEN WITH OUR SNOWFALL, WE STILL SAW THAT.

I COULD PULL THE DATA FROM 2021 BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE EXACT MATERIAL COUNTERS UP.

I'M GOING TO GUESS IT INCREASED, BECAUSE WE JUST STARTED TO SEE AN INCREASE WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT.

ANYWAY WITH THE USAGE OF OUR OUTDOOR SPACES.

IT DOESN'T GETS QUITE A BIT.

THOSE ARE ONLY IN A SELECT EIGHT LOCATIONS.

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>> THE CHARACTER TO HAVE YOU OUT, BECAUSE I DRAGGED THAT ROUTE EVERY DAY.

THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE EVERY DAY.

WHERE ARE THE COUNTERS?

>> THEY ARE IN A TWO INCH BY TWO INCH SQUARE TUBE WITH A LITTLE DEVICE AND IT'S AN INFRARED CAMERA, AND IT WAS LITERALLY GO ACROSS THE ENTIRE 10 FOOT, EIGHT FOOT TRAIL.

NOT COUNT VEHICLES, BUT DOES COUNT ANY FOOT TRAFFIC, BUT OF HIGH SCORES.

>> OR IT'S POSITION THOUGH.

>> OR IS IT POSITIONED?

>> YEAH.

>> IT IS ON. IT WOULD BE BACKSIDE OF THE POSTERIOR FLUID ACROSS TOWARD THE CURB.

>> SO YOU COME UP LONE TREE AND TURN, IS IT BEFORE THAT OR AFTER THAT?

>> IT'S MORE DOWNSTREAM IF YOU GO CLOSER.

>> OR NEAR THE TRAIL.

>> [INAUDIBLE] TRAIL MAYBE.

>> A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE VECTOR MATERIAL.

YES. YEAH, BUT I DO THINK IT'S QUITE A GOOD USAGE. YEAH, THE QUESTIONS? [OVERLAPPING]

>> I WAIT WORD USAGE.

YOU'RE JUST CAPTURING SMALL PART OF IT.

>> THAT IS A SMALL PART OF IT OUT OF THE ENTIRE 59 MILE.

SO IT'S TRIM SYSTEM.

YES. JUST DIDN'T SELECT A LOCATION.

>> ASSUMING THE COUNTER ON THE LARGE FIELD TRIP.

>> IT IS DUE TOO.

>> YOU FIRST TURN BACK [LAUGHTER].

[OVERLAPPING]

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> I STARTED LIKE WHAT'S THIS? I FIGURED IT OUT.

>> YEAH, SO MY GUESS IS THERE'S MORE USERS THAN 215, OUR ENTIRE CHANNEL SYSTEM.

THIS IS JUST WHAT'S CAPTURED [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]

>> [INAUDIBLE]. THE NEXT MONTH AS WELL.

THERE'S A DEDICATED PHYSICIAN OUTDOOR EDUCATION FOR ALL THE STATES.

THIS WAS APPROVED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND THE POSITION WAS FILLED IN JANUARY.

THAT PERSON HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS NOW.

[LAUGHTER]

>> [INAUDIBLE].

THE COMMUNITY RESILIENCE PROJECT, THAT'S A MONTHLY WORKSHOP AND THAT'S BEEN A SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN SUSTAINABILITY AND THE LIBRARY, WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY RESILIENCE, THE CLIMATE CHANGE.

A GOOD EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM VERSUS SUSTAINABILITY AND LIBRARY PARTNER ON THAT.

CLEANUP EFFORTS ON THE TRAILS.

OVER 100 MILES OF TRAILS AND AVENUES, THEY'VE COLLECTED 600 BAGS OF TRASH FOR RECYCLING.

THIS IS A YEAR-ROUND EFFORT.

THEY HAVE 1,000 VOLUNTEERS CONTRIBUTING ABOUT 1,800 SERVICE HOURS AT THE TIME THIS SLIDE IS PUT TOGETHER, AND THEN THAT NUMBER IS NOW UP TO OVER 2,000 SERVICE HOURS.

THAT'S A LOT OF WORK THAT PEOPLE ARE VOLUNTEERING, COACHING, KEEPING THE TRAILS AND THE CITY CLEAN.

THEY RENTED ALL OF THE COMMUNITY GARDEN PLOTS LAST YEAR AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THOSE THAT ARE GARDENS IN THE FUTURE.

THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT PROGRAM, AND HOSTED THE FIRST EXPERT COMPOST, OR CERTIFICATION COURSE.

THERE WAS A FIVE-WEEK PROGRAM WHERE RESIDENTS COULD COME AND LEARN ABOUT COMPOSTING, AND HOW TO BECOME ADVOCATES FOR COMPOSTING AND CLIMATE CHANGE.

I NOTICED FOR THE FIRST TIME THE BUCKETS OUTSIDE FOR BRINGING IN YOUR COMPOST WASTE SO WE CAN DROP OFF OUR FOOD WASTE LIKE FRUITS, VEGETABLE, GRAINS.

THAT'S A GREAT PROGRAM AS WELL.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE OFFERING NEXT CLASS AGAIN.

THAT'S GOING TO BE MAY 17TH THROUGH 19TH.

YOU CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ON SUSTAINABILITY WEBSITE.

THAT IS IT FOR THE LIVABLE COMMUNITY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

>> I NOTICED THAT YOU AND OTHERS PRODUCTS, THE AIRPORT, TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

WE'RE LOSING THIS SIDE OF LINE, AND LOOKING FOR ANOTHER ONE, AND THAT'S GREAT.

BUT I NEVER HEARD ANYBODY TALK ABOUT AMTRAK, AND IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO I SAW SOME NUMBERS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE GET ON AND OFF AMTRAK IN FLAGSTAFF, AND I WAS VERY SURPRISED, IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER.

THERE'S A LOT GOING ON WITH AMTRAK, SOME OF THEM GOOD, SOME OF THEM BAD, AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THE CITY WAS BEING INVOLVED IN THAT AS MUCH AS WAS THE AIRPORT.

MAYBE NOT AS MUCH, BUT PUT A SIGNIFICANT EFFORT INTO THAT, CONSIDERING THAT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET INTO AMTRAK,

[00:40:02]

THEY'RE PEOPLE WHO LOVE AMTRAK.

AGAIN, IT BRINGS A LOT OF TOURISTS HERE.

PEOPLE COME IN AMTRAK, THEY GET A HOTEL, THEY GO TO DINNER, WHICH IS THE STUFF YOU LOVE.

THEY GO INTO THE GRAND CANYON FOR DINNER, SO COMEBACK, EAT DINNER AGAIN.

YOU GET A HOTEL, AND THEN WE'LL GET ON A TRAIN AND LEAVE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE EFFORTS ON MAKING SURE THAT AMTRAK STAYS IN THE SPOTLIGHT.

FOR SOME PEOPLE ON THE AMTRAK BOARD, THEY WANT TO GET RID OF LONG DISTANCE TRAINS.

THEY THINK, WELL, WE SHOULD JUST RUN TRAINS FROM WASHINGTON DC TO BOSTON, AND FORGET THERE'S CHICAGO TO LA, OR LA TO SEATTLE, OR SAN DIEGO OR WHATEVER.

THE OTHER THING THAT COMES TO MIND I BELIEVE IT'S, TRAINS ARE WAY MORE FUEL EFFICIENT, THEREFORE, LESS CARBON EMISSIONS EFFICIENT, THAT'S WHEN FOR YOU CAN CALL, THEN THE AIRPLANES.

THEY USE A LOT OF FUEL.

THEY ARE PASSENGER CASES, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE QUITE A BIT LOWER THAN AIRPORTS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE INTEREST IN THAT AREA.

I DON'T KNOW IF [OVERLAPPING].

>> BROUGHT ABOUT THAT, BUT WE DID PUT DOWNTOWN MILE OBJECT.

WE ARE WORKING WITH AMTRAK OUT ON THAT SELL-SIDE PLATFORM WHERE [OVERLAPPING].

>> I MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS TALK ABOUT BEING STATIONED DOWN TO WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY SEND RAISE.

BUT APPARENTLY THAT'S TOO BAD TO BE IMPRACTICAL.

THAT CAN HAPPEN, BUT THEY AREN'T GOING TO MAKE MORE EASIER IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

>> MAYOR COUNCILOR MCCARTHY.

WE DO DO ADVERTISING FOR THE AMTRAK.

YOU PROBABLY JUST DON'T SEE IT A LOT, AND SO I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE SHARE MORE OF THAT WITH YOU.

BUT WE JUST DID AN AD IN PROGRESS SECTION OF THE DAILY SUN, TO REMIND THEM TO RIDE THE GROUND, AND IT'S ACTUALLY WRITE THE RESONANCE CAMPAIGN.

WE ALSO JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION ON CONSENSUAL BRANDS THAT WE DID APPLY FOR, THE STACEY BREATH FOR AN AX THAT IS GONE TO OUR VISITOR CENTER MANAGER DESK CALORIES AND TO TRACE WORD OR DISCOVERED FLAGSTAFF DIRECTOR.

THOSE TWO ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING INTO THOSE BRANDS, BECAUSE THIS BRANDS COULD BE USED TO ACTUALLY POWER THE TEAM TO ENHANCE THE TRAIN STATION, AND LOOK AT THE APPEAL.

WE DID GET SOMEONE THAT HAD SENT A NOTE INTO THE MAYOR COUNCIL RECENTLY ABOUT THE TRAIN STATION AND THAT IT WAS NOT LOOKING IT'S BEST SHAPE, OR WHATEVER.

THAT ACTUALLY IS FROM A TRAIN STATION EMPLOYEE, NOT THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH, AND WE HAVE SINCE LET THAT TRAIN STATION EMPLOYEE KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO SOME OTHER GRANTS AND SOME POSSIBLE THINGS.

WE ALSO DO HAVE A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

SCOTT'S TEAM'S VERY GREAT ABOUT COMING OUT AND TAKING CARE OF IT FOR ALL THE WAY.

WE DID REMODEL THE BATHROOMS A LITTLE WHILE AGO, WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER REMODEL.

WE DO HAVE IT IN OUR BUSINESS TO SPARE A DROVE PIECE.

IT'S EFFECTIVE THESIS THAT WE'VE ALL RECEIVED A COPY OF, BUT IT'S ALSO ONE THAT WE'D HAVE DIGITALLY.

IN OUR TRANSPORTATION SECTION, WE DO TALK ABOUT THE RAIL SERVICE, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS NOTHING THAT COMES FROM FLAGSTAFF DIRECTLY TO LA ANYMORE, BECAUSE OUR SATURDAY FLIGHT TO LA WAS VERY SHORT-LIVED.

THEY WERE JUST DOING A TRIAL, OF COURSE THE TRIAL FAILED BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVING US JUST A SATURDAY ROUTE.

DOESN'T WORK, YOU HAVE TO HAVE RETURN TRIP.

AT ANY WAY, WE TOLD THEM THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO DO WELL ON THAT SET OF HOW IT HAPPENS.

WHEN THEY COME BACK FOR HOME FOR AT LEAST TWO DAYS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE RAIL BECAUSE OF THAT CONNECTION.

I'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT I GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT I DO THINK THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH INWARD FACING LIKELY, WHEN WE DO SOME PAPER IN THE DAILY SUN PROBABLY NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT, THAN TO STATE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THOUGH WHEN WE DO THE ADVERTISEMENT, YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THEY CAN COME IN BY RAIL, OR BY PLANE, OR BUY CARS.

>> A COUPLE OF FOLLOW-UP. MR. RAND, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE AIRPORT, ALL I'M GOING WANT TO HEAR IS ALL WHAT'S GOING ON IN AMTRAK.

A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

THE US, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SOLUTION IN TRIAL, BUT THE PATIENT IS INADEQUATE.

IT'S TOO SMALL.

WHEN PEOPLE ARE WAITING FOR THE TRAIN, THERE'S STANDING ON [INAUDIBLE], THERE'S NO WHERE FOR EVERYONE TO SIT, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE WAITING IT ON.

THE OTHER THING I MENTIONED WAS METRO PLAN HAD A LITTLE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR A WHILE, AND IT WAS AMAZING HOW MANY INTERESTS WAS, NOT JUST FROM FISA, BUT FROM WINSLOW,

[00:45:02]

FROM CAMP VERDE, WE HAD MAYORS COME UP FROM THESE VARIOUS CITIES THAT WERE VERY INTERESTED IN, AND THOSE PEOPLE COMING INTO FLAGSTAFF, WAITING FOR THE TRAIN, TAKING THE TRAIN.

SOMETIMES LIKELY TO GO IN MEXICO CITY, THEIR ALBUQUERQUE.

IT'S THE ONLY PRACTICAL WAY TO GET TO ALBUQUERQUE BESIDES SCROLLING.

ANYWAY, THAT'S HOW [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE CAN NOT EMAIL, THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT I GIVE THIS INFORMATION, I'M PRETTY SURE TRACE IS ON THE CALL ANYWAY, AND WE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT WE COME IN FRONT OF YOU TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW DO WE GO WITH THE RAIL, NOT JUST THE AIRPORT.

>> WELL, THERE'S TWO SIDES TO IT.

ONE IS THE ADVERTISING, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW IT'S THERE AND THAT IT'S A GOOD OPTION.

IT'S NOT FOR EVERYONE, BUT SOME PEOPLE LOVE IT.

[LAUGHTER]

>> BUT THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, JUST LIKE WE DO WITH THE OTHER ONES, IS MAKING SURE THE SERVICE CONTINUES AND DO SOME LOBBYING IN THAT REGARD IS LETTING PEOPLE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO THE CITY [INAUDIBLE] EVEN THOUGH IT'S LIKE UNDER THE RADAR, BUT PEOPLE USE IT.

>> DEFINITELY, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S IN YOUR.

>> I BELIEVE IT IS.

>> IT IS. THE AIRPORT HAS BEEN IN YOUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE ROUTE THAT TOO.

WE'RE ALL BEING PICTURED THAT WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

>> BUT IT'S OUR SET OF SIDE.

I'M VERY GLAD WE HAVE DAILY SERVICE.

TUCSON FOR INSTANCE, DOES NOT HAVE DAILY SERVICE.

DAILY SERVICE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

BUT HAS BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT TWO TRIPS EACH WAY, TWO LA'S, TWO IN CHICAGO EVERY DAY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> MAYBE IT SHOULD BE IN ONE OF OUR MEDIA HOUSE.

>> I WILL DO THAT.

>> THANK YOU [INAUDIBLE] I THINK I'M GOING TO BE HAVING ONE OF OUR VIDEOS.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> [INAUDIBLE] GOOD LUCK.

>> GOOD LUCK TOO [INAUDIBLE]

>> I DO [INAUDIBLE] I'M SO SORRY.

>> I'M JUST GOING TO, I GUESS, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRAIN SERVICE FROM LA TO FLAGSTAFF, IT'S AMAZING.

MY SLIME COMES HERE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A YEAR.

FOR SOME OF YOU ALL THAT KNOW, HE'S FREELANCE VIDEOGRAPHER, AND AMTRAK HAS POSTED A LOT OF HE'LL DO IT COMING INTO FLAGSTAFF, SO YOU SEE THE TRAIN STATION AND THEN GOING INTO LA.

THEY HAVE REPOSTED ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT HE SENDS TO THEM OR POSTS ON HIS PAGE, THEY KEPT IT AND REPOST THEM.

PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT IT AND THEY'RE SINGING, AND HE'LL POST PICTURES OF THE MEAL BECAUSE HE GETS TO ONE OF THOSE LITTLE ROOMMATES AND THEY'LL POST BECAUSE HE'S SITTING THERE, SHOWING HIS MEAL, WHATEVER PEOPLE WHEN THEY DO THEIR FOOD STUFF.

THEY'LL STILL OTHER STUFF ON THE TRAINING THAT MEETS FOR THE 11 HOURS OR 10 HOURS OR WHATEVER IT IS.

IT'S GETTING OUT THERE, AT LEAST IT'S ON THEIR WEBSITE OR THEIR FACEBOOK OR INSTAGRAM OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY DO.

>> [INAUDIBLE] I JUST NEED YOU TO SEND ME HIS NAME, THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL START REPOSTING THAT AS WELL.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S JUST REALLY SIMPLE FOR US TO DO, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO STARTS TO REALLY HELP THEM POPULATE FOR CONTENT [INAUDIBLE] IS KEY.

WE'LL DEFINITELY DO THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT ASSISTANCE.

>> HE SAYS BECAUSE HE CAN GET ON THE TRAIN AT FOUR OR 05:00 O'CLOCK OR WHATEVER 06:00 IN LA, AND BY 5:30 THE NEXT MORNING, HE'S HERE, HE SAID A GOOD NIGHT TO SLEEP, HE'S NOT BUSTLING WITH SECURITY, FOR THESE BRINGING ALL THESE CAMERAS STUFF.

THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO HOPE FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT MAY BE COMING HERE FOR MAYBE SOME WORK OR SOME WHATEVER IT'S A MUCH EASIER TRICK AND THE ROOMMATES OR NOT THAT EXPENSIVE FOR A ROUND TRIP.

>> WHEN I FIRST CAME INTO THE CITY AS CB DIRECTOR FOR ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I HAD TO DO WAS TO TAKE THE RAIL.

THEN WITH FLAGSTAFF, THEN MOVED TO LA AND THEN WE DID A SHOW, AND THEN WE CAME BACK AND YOU'RE WRITING, IT'S A FUN EXPERIENCE.

IF YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME ON YOUR HANDS, IT'S BEEN AND DEFINITELY IS A REAL EASE OF TRAVEL.

I WILL JUST SAY TO YOU, I RECOGNIZE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WE ALL DO A BETTER JOB AT IT AND I GOT TO TAKE FALL WITH WHAT YOU SAID TO ME.

I'M GOING TO GO JOT DOWN AT MY TABLE, AND WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING TO DO, MAKE SURE WE GET IN FRONT OF YOU MORE OFTEN AND LET YOU TO HAVE THAT TRANSPORTATION MODE IS WORKING.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR DISCUSSION.

>> YOU GOT IT. IT'S A GREAT DISCUSSION, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. [NOISE]

>> GOOD MORNING.

[00:50:01]

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTIVE.

WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP OR VNET AND I PROMISE THIS IS THE LAST THING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE] PROJECT.

BUT IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON FACILITY, ENERGY EFFICIENCY.

WE'RE GOING TO DEEP WEATHER STATION, TREAT US IN A NUMBER OF FACILITIES.

WE'RE GOING TO UPGRADE LIGHTING, COUNCIL MAY RECALL WE'RE GOING TO UPGRADE OVER 5,000 LIGHTING FIXTURES.

WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON IRRIGATION TO SAVE WATER, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE A FEW MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS FOR OUR FLEET.

MOVING INTO WILDFIRE MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS IMPORTANT HERE AROUND FOR STREET AND PROJECTS WHILE ENHANCING LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL PARTNERSHIPS.

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY CRITICAL.

I WANTED TO JUST DO A SHOUT OUT.

I KNOW THAT PAUL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY JUST BEFORE THE MENTION, THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE LIBRARY AND SUSTAINABILITY ON THE RESILIENCE PROJECT THAT IT IS NEXT WEEK, MAY 6TH.

OUR FOCUS FOR THE CLIMATE RESILIENCE PROJECT IS FOCUSING ON WILDLAND FORCE.

ONE AND ONLY NEIL CHALLENGE WE'LL BE FOCUSING ON THE THREE IMPORTANT PRINCIPLES OF FIRE ADAPTED COMMUNITIES AND HOW THESE EFFORTS PROTECT OUR WATERSHED.

IF YOU WANT TO JOIN US, MORE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE AND ACTUAL SYSTEM THAT OUT.

THE GLIDER, I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT WHEN WE WERE IN DC, AND WE MET WITH USDA.

FIRST STEP WAS COMPLIMENTED ON OUR INNOVATIVE WAYS TO REGULATE FIRE, [INAUDIBLE], AND EVEN CALIFORNIA'S NOW REALIZING THE BENEFITS FROM THAT AND NOW FOLLOWING OUR LEAD IN STORIES THAT HAVE BEEN, LOOKS LIKE IF IT'S FLUORESCE.

BUT IT WAS NICE TO KNOW THAT FLAGSTAFF ON CAPITOL HILL LOOKS AT FLAGSTAFF IN HOW WE ARE TAKING CARE OF OUR FOREST, THE SECURITY NADH, AND WE ARE MAKING EXAMPLE FOR OTHER STATES THAT HAVE FOREST ISSUES.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY KUDOS TO OUR CITY AND OUR FOREST MANAGEMENT PEOPLE BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY NICE TO HEAR THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. ONE THING THAT I SO APPRECIATE IT AND GRATEFUL FOR OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH BETWEEN SUSTAINABILITY AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS, SPECIFICALLY [INAUDIBLE] HEALTH IS TRYING TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO OUR COMMUNITY SO THERE'S MORE OWNERSHIP AND UNDERSTANDING FROM THE COMMUNITY, THE VALUE AND THE NEED AND WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING A LOT WITH NEIL.

I MENTIONED OUR HEPA AIR FILTER PROGRAM ON THAT, WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OFFERED TWO YEARS NOW.

WE'RE TRYING TO HELP EDUCATE ABOUT SMOKE VERSUS VESICLE.

THERE'S A LOT OF LAYERS HERE, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME STILL ARE BOTH.

GREAT. THE NEXT THING I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THAT WE ARE ROTATING OUR FOSSIL FUEL VEHICLES FOR HYBRIDS AND ELECTRIC MODELS WHETHER FEASIBLE.

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT OUR FLEET ALL TOMORROW.

WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD A SMART ROTATION THAT IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

ALSO LOOKING AT WHEN TECHNOLOGY IS AVAILABLE.

I'LL JUST TOP WITH AN EXAMPLE.

I BELIEVE IT WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN THERE WAS A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO WANTED THE CITY TO CONVERT THIS ALL AT ONCE.

BUT THAT'S NOT HOW WE ARE APPROACHING THIS, WE ARE WORKING TO DO IT INCREMENTALLY IN A SOUND WAY.

BUT A LOT OF THE TECHNOLOGY, THE NEEDS FOR THE LARGER VEHICLES AREN'T AVAILABLE YET.

WE JUST HAVE TO SYSTEMATICALLY WORK THROUGH THAT.

BUT WE DO HAVE OUR FIRST ELECTRIC VEHICLE, MOTORCYCLE.

[LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].

>> [INAUDIBLE] TO DRIVE THAT.

>> I DON'T KNOW, BUT I PLAN TO TEST IT OUT MYSELF.

[LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] I THINK I'M GOING TO GET A LICENSE.

I JUST WANT TO DO [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]

>> BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS [INAUDIBLE] I'M NOT SURE IF ALL THAT ROTATES IN AND OUT IF WHETHER USING IT.

BUT I REALLY JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EMPHASIZE THAT.

OUR PLANNING IS TO DO IT SYSTEMATICALLY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET THE WHOLE SWEEP OF OUR TAKE AND THEN BOOK PLACE, EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE.

OUR PRESENTATION EFFORTS, THEY PROMOTE PRESERVATION AND REUSE OF EXISTING BUILDINGS.

THIS IS VERY CRITICAL FOR HOUSING PURPOSES AS WELL AS ECONOMIC PURPOSES, AND A LOT OF GOOD WORK IS HAPPENING IN THE GARAGE HAS A VISION OF PROGRAM.

THEN STANDING ON THAT ARE REGIONAL PLAN UPDATING, VERY CRUCIAL THAT YOU GET OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

SARA AND HER TEAM JUST COMPLETED SOME REALLY ROBUST SCENARIO PLANNING THAT WENT REALLY WELL.

OF COURSE, THERE'S A VISUAL PANEL DATA IS IMPORTANT FOR STUDY BY POLICIES AND PRIORITIES FOR CONSERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES.

THAT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON BEST AVAILABLE SCIENCE AND DATA. [INAUDIBLE]

[00:55:10]

>> NEXT, GOING BACK TO THE AIRPORT, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT OF THE AIRPORT WAS CONDUCTED JUST TO LOOK AT WHAT FUTURE PROJECTS CAN UNFOLD.

THEN THEY ALSO PURCHASED LAND TO PROTECT RUNWAY SAFETY AREAS.

ECONOMIC VITALITY OUR PARTNERS.

THIS IS A REALLY FUN PARTNERSHIP WITH SUSTAINABILITY AND ECONOMIC VITALITY.

WE REPLENISHED THE INNOVATE WASTE CHALLENGE WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

THE SUSTAINABLE AUTOMATED TAX CREDIT, AS WELL AS THE ADAPTIVE REUSE PROGRAM.

WE'RE DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK OVER THERE.

THERE ARE CLEANUP DAYS AND PROGRAMMING AROUND DONATING TO THE FLAGGSTAFF TRAILS INITIATIVE.

REALLY IMPORTANT WORK FOCUSING ON BRINGING FUNDS AND AWARENESS INTO FTI.

I AM GOING TO DO A LITTLE PLUG.

IS THAT SHAMELESS?

>> YEAH, COMPLETELY.

[LAUGHTER].

>> ALSO NEXT WEEK, THE TOURISM SERVICE DAY, WHICH IS A GREAT EFFORT BY DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF AND OUR PRE-HISTORIC PROGRAM ARE HOSTING SO TO SAY, FROM 11:30 TO 1: 30.

IF YOU WANT TO HELP GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND DO A CLEAN UP, WE'VE GOT THAT ORGANIZED.

IT WILL BE FROM 11:30-1:30 ON THE ATTACK.

VISIT THEIR SITE FOR MORE INFORMATION.

OUR PARTNERS IN WATER SERVICES ARE REALLY FOCUSING ON REDUCING THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT.

THROUGH THEIR ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROJECTS AND RESOURCES REUSED FOR WATERWORK INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHICH IS GOING TO CONTINUE DOING MORE AND MORE CRITICAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

>> THAT CLEAN-UP, I THINK IT'S AT THE SAME TIME AS THE TOURISM ONE IS THE SAME EVENT.

>> THE TOURISM ONE?

>> WAS IT THE SAME TIME?

>> AS THE MAY 10TH TOURISM CLEAN UP?

>> YEAH.

>> IT'S 11:30 TO 1: 30. SAME TIME AS.

>> YOU ARE SAYING THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS.

>> SORRY. I MAY HAVE MISCOMMUNICATED THAT.

IT'S A TOURISM SERVICE DAY THAT WE'RE PART OF.

>> SO IT'S THE SAME EVENT?

>> THE SAME EVENT. SATISFIED? ALL RIGHT.

OUR FRIENDS IN WATER SERVICES ARE DOING A GREAT JOB IMPLEMENTING A WATER CONSERVATION STRATEGIC PLAN.

I'M GOING TO JUMP DOWN TO THE LAST BULLET.

THEY'RE INCORPORATING INCENTIVES TO RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL WATER USERS THROUGH THEIR REBATE PROGRAM TO FOCUS ON WATER CONSERVATION.

WE ARE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF REPLACING EXISTING STREET LIGHTS WITH DARK SKY COMPLIANCE LIGHT FIXTURES.

SOME FOLKS MAY REMEMBER THIS HAS BEEN A LONG HAUL TO GET TO AGREEMENT WITH THE OBSERVATORIES.

THIS IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE OBSERVATORIES AND OF COURSE LOOKING AT WHAT TECHNOLOGIES ARE AVAILABLE THAT HELP US KEEP ON DARK SKIES.

WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THE APS.

WE ARE PURCHASING CLEAN ENERGY THROUGH THE APS GREEN POWER PARTNERS PROGRAM.

BY STEP WAS THE FIRST PARTNER IN THIS INITIATIVE.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HELP APS GET THIS OFFERING ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

JUST TO SUM THIS UP.

WE DISTRIBUTED $30,000 IN GRANT FUNDS TO A COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATION TO EMPLOY UNSHELTERED COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR THE LITTER ABATEMENT.

THIS IS OUR ENGAGEMENT EMPOWER AND ELEVATE PROGRAM, ALSO KNOWN AS E3, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED.

IT WAS INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL THIS YEAR.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SOLICITATION OUT, RIGHT NOW TO RENEW THIS CONTRACT FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS.

THEN WE'VE WATCHED THE STREAMS STEWARDS PROGRAM, WHICH FACILITATES LITTER CLEAN UP, DEBRIS REMOVAL AND INVASIVE SPECIES FROM THE RIO DE FLAG.

WE LAUNCHED IT, THIS PAST YEAR, WE ALREADY HAD 118 VOLUNTEERS WHO CONTRIBUTED OVER 3,300 HOURS HELPING US MAINTAIN SECTIONS OF THE RIO DE FLAG.

THE COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED THEIR OWN SECTION.

IT REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

WE JUST LAUNCHED OUR WATERSHED CLEANUP SERIES FOR THE SUMMER AND THAT'LL BE THE FIRST SATURDAY OF EVERY MONTH OF AUGUST.

WE WILL BE LOOKING TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO HELP US DO THIS CLEAN UP AND WE'LL BE CONTINUING TO SEND OUT INFORMATION. I WONDER WHO IS FIRST.

>> SOMEBODY FIGURED OUT.

[LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].

>> WE GO BACK AND FIND THAT QUARTER.

CITATION TO APS ABOUT THIS.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE REGULAR RATE FOR ELECTRICITY VERSUS A SURCHARGE?

[01:00:04]

WELL, THEY SAID THAT THERE WAS A PREMIUM CHARGE TO USE CLEAN ENERGY.

WHAT IS THAT DIFFERENCE?

>> THE BILL CAME TO A LITTLE BIT OVER $100,000 A YEAR FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

A MAJORITY OF THAT IS WATER SERVICES BECAUSE THEY ARE THE CITY'S LARGEST ELECTRICITY USER.

BUT YEAH, THAT PREMIUM IS GOING TO FLUCTUATE AND WE ARE MONITORING IT.

WE ALSO ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE FOR US.

>> IS 100,000 WHAT WE'RE PROJECTED TO PAY OR THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW BEFORE WE DO THE CLEAN ENERGY?

>> IT'S BUILT ON EACH MONTH'S ELECTRIC BILL.

IT'S REAL-TIME BILLING THAT'S BASED ON OUR CONSUMPTION FROM LAST YEAR.

WE'VE PROJECTED IT OUT.

I THINK IT CAME IN AT 307,000.

>> PRIOR TO THAT WHAT WAS IT?

>> THIS IS OUR FIRST-YEAR.

>> NO I MEAN, BEFORE WE USE PREMIUM.

>> HOW MUCH DO WE SPEND ON ELECTRICITY? LET ME PULL THAT UP. I THINK WE ARE ON [INAUDIBLE] AT THE MOMENT.

>> THE HUNDRED THOUSAND IS JUST THE INCREASE?

>> THAT'S OUR PREMIUM, YES.

>> WE SPEND QUITE A FEW MILLION A YEAR.

>> IS THAT GOOD?

>> I'M CURIOUS IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE SHARING THE NAME OF THE COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATION.

IF NOT, THAT'S FINE.

MY OTHER QUESTION IS INVASIVE SPECIES REMOVAL.

I'M ASSUMING THAT'S MOSTLY PLANT MATERIAL, BUT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY VERTEBRATES AND INVERTEBRATES?

>> DEAD PLANT MATERIAL. WE'RE GOING TO [INAUDIBLE] STING ON PLANTS.

YES, THE ORGANIZATION THAT WAS AWARDED THE GRANT LAST YEAR, THEY FINISHED IT UP THIS FISCAL YEAR WAS CAST.

THE MOBILE UNIT, EMPLOYEE.

THERE WAS SOME UPDATES IN OUR CITY COUNCIL WORKFORCE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THE FINAL REPORT WITH THE COUNCIL BECAUSE THERE'S SOME INCREDIBLY MOVING STORIES IN THERE.

>> THAT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.

>> IT WAS INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL.

THE BAD NEWS IS WE DIDN'T GET A MATCH FROM THE STATE OF ARIZONA FOR THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE $16,000 FOR THIS OFFERING FOR THE SOLICITATION AND SO THE STATE REFLECTS ON THIS EFFORT AND MY HOPE IS THAT WITH SOME GOOD OUTCOMES WE SEE SOME MORE STATE FUNDING FOR EVERYONE.

THAT WAS INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THE SUMMATION REPORT WITH THE COUNCIL.

ANY OTHER QUESTION? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> HEY, CAN WE GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU.

HERE, I'M NOTICING A LOT OF PEOPLE'S WANT TO RUSH TO THE RESTROOM.

DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK NOW OR HOW'S EVERYONE FEELING? STILL STAY AT 10:00?

>> SOUNDS FAIR.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE PAUL, ARE YOU STARTING TO THE NEXT SECTION? YOU'RE LISTED FIRST IN THIS AREA FOR UNFUNDED CAPITAL LIMITS.

>> I'M THE FIRST.

[LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND]

>> LET'S SEE WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE. AGAIN, AS PART OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS RETREAT THAT WE HAD EARLIER IN APRIL, WE GIVE YOU A VERY LARGE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

BUT THERE IS ALSO A SIGNIFICANT LIST OF PROJECTS THAT ARE UNFUNDED.

THIS ARE JUST THE TOTAL AMOUNTS FOR EACH PROGRAM OF INITIATING OUR FUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAMS. WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH SOME DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND THE DIFFERENT PROGRAM REPRESENTATIVES COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THEIR RESPONSES.

>> IMPRESSIVE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> I'M FIRST? [INAUDIBLE].

>> LET'S CHECK ON THE [INAUDIBLE].

BECAUSE I REALIZE THAT WAS THE VERY NEXT SLIDE AND SO I APOLOGIZE.

[01:05:04]

THIS ARE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

GOT SOME REALLY GREAT NEWS THIS MORNING ASSOCIATING THE POSSIBILITY OF A CONGRESSIONAL CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS OUR SHARE OF THE RELOCATION OF FIRE STATION 6, WHICH IS ANTICIPATED BECAUSE OF DAMAGE.

ASSUMING THAT THE PLAN MOVES FORWARD, THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

THEN THE JOHN WESLEY POWELL GROWTH CORRIDOR, IS A BRILLIANT COMPANY [INAUDIBLE] GOING TO COMMENT ON THIS.

THIS IS NEXT LARGE, MAYBE LAST LARGE GROWTH AREA IN THE CITY.

UNLESS GOVERNMENT HOLDINGS, AND UNLESS IT RECEIVES MORE PROJECTS BY [INAUDIBLE].

BUT IT'S REALLY AN IMPORTANT PROJECT.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING SOME PRELIMINARY WORK ON THAT SITE, COMPLETING THAT WORK, AS YOU ALL RECALL, WHEN THE [INAUDIBLE] QUESTIONED ABOUT WHERE WOULD THE JOHN WESLEY POWELL [INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE.

IT HAD BEEN RESOLVED AND WE HAVE A SENSE OF WHERE THAT STATION WILL COME DOWN.

IT IS IDENTIFIED IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO COLLECTING THAT BACK FEES TOWARDS THAT.

ALTHOUGH WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WILL BE SUFFICIENT AT THIS POINT, AND IT APPEARS LIKELY NOT.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THAT PROJECT AND THAT WILL BE DRIVEN BY THE JASON [INAUDIBLE] ON THE MOST.

THE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS.

NEW ADMINISTRATIVE SPACE.

I'VE SEEN ANDREW VASQUEZ LEAVING AND ASK US TO LEAVE.

>> NO.

[LAUGHTER]

>> I REMEMBERED EXACTLY TINKLE TOE, THAT SEEMS TO BE [INAUDIBLE] THE CONVERSATION WENT LIKE THIS. " HEY, CHIEF. YOU REALLY NEED MORE ADMINISTRATIVE SPACE, DON'T YOU?" THEN HE SAID," YES." [LAUGHTER]

>> THE NARRATIVE FRANKLY IS, AND MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM KNOW THIS INCLUDING CAPITAL PROJECTS AND CITY ENGINEERING, AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, AND HUMAN RESOURCES, WE'RE VERY TIGHT AT CITY HALL, ESPECIALLY DOWNSTAIRS.

[INAUDIBLE], WE'RE MAKING DO WITH SPACE IN A VERY GOOD WAY DOWNSTAIRS, GETTING VERY CREATIVE ABOUT THE CUBICLES BEING BROUGHT IN, WHICH IS GREAT.

[INAUDIBLE] AHEAD, WE THINK, ESPECIALLY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TUNING FIRE STATIONS HERE OVER TIME, IT MAY MAKE SENSE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> TO HAVE A FIRE ADMINISTRATION HAVING SOME SPACE.

WE LOVE HAVING YOU DOWNSTAIRS.

IT IS A VERY GOOD FIT, BUT THIS IS ALL IN THE REALM OF SPACE MANAGEMENT AND SPACE ANALYSIS, AND WE NEVER TOLD YOU TO LEAVE, SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD [INAUDIBLE]

>> IT WAS JUST A JOKE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WE ARE.

MOST OF THE POSTAL SERVICES ARE REPRESENTED WITH THE PRESENCE OF THAT CITY HALL.

I JUST CHECKED THAT THEY NEED MORE SPACE.

SO WE CERTAINLY, IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATION CAN BE RELOCATED AND CREATE SPACE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE AS WELL AS STUDENTS, SOME OF OUR AFOREMENTIONED NEEDS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY ALREADY LIVING IN, WE ARE NOT A SINGLE, THERE WILL SIT DOWN WORKSPACE, AND FIRE ADMIN INCIDENT.

EXPANSIVE BROAD MIX, EXISTING FIRE STATION THROUGH ACCOMODATIVE APPARATUS AND STAFF MADE YOUR BODY AND THROAT.

WE HAVE THE SUM STANDARDS OR COVER ANALYSIS WITH SCRUTINY WE HAD DONE.

BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED DENSITY THAT'S OCCURRED WITHIN CITIES, SO THAT FIREHOUSES, WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE UNITS ON BOARD.

THEN AGAIN BOTH OF THE FIREHOUSES WERE NOT BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE MUCH MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

THAT MEANS, AND THE GOOD NEWS IS, AT LEAST THREE OF THE FIRE STATION WERE BUILT WITH FACADE THAT WOULD INTEND THE EXPANSION.

THAT IS GOOD NEW, SO THAT YOU MIGHT KNOW [INAUDIBLE] BUILDING FINANCIAL PREMIUM.

SO YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF PLACES TO THAT SECTION.

SECOND STEP LADDER, A SECOND TIME.

THERE IS SOME COORDINATION TO GO, THERE MAY BE SOME RELIEF THAT COULD BE CREATED BY J. W. POWELL FACILITY [INAUDIBLE].

[01:10:03]

THE COMPLETION OF FIRE TRAINING FACILITY.

THAT FACILITY WAS NEVER TO IT DURING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BOND AND CREATED A NUMBER OF THE FIRE STATIONS, ENCOURAGED ME HAVE AN INQUIRY TRAINING FACILITY.

IT WAS AT THE HEIGHT OF THE RECESSION AND COSTUME JUST ESCALATING, AND A LOT OF SCOPE.

MODEL LOCATIONS HADN'T BEEN CUT AND IMPLEMENTED IN THAT BOND, AND SO THE TRAINING FACILITY IS A TRAILER AND MULTIPLE SERIES OF TRAILERS IN THERE, NOT GETTING RATHER ROLE IN THE ABILITY TO BUILD THOSE PERMANENT FACILITIES, PARTICULARLY SINCE BLACK STAFF HAS EMERGED AS A REGIONAL TRAINING CENTER AS WELL.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH JACK TO COMPLETE THAT.

DID WILDFIRE UNIT WHEN WE BUILT THE WILDFIRE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM UNDER THE NEW TREATY, IT ALLOWED US TO TAKE SEASONAL STAFFING AND CONVERT THOSE TO A FULL-TIME YEAR-ROUND, RESTORATION FORCE RESPIRATION, WE NEED A STORAGE, ROCK HOUSE ON AIRPORT RANDOMNESS.

TYPICALLY INADEQUATE FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I THINK IT'S STILL ON A JOB FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE HOURS.

IT WOULD BENEFIT THE OVERALL SUCCESS OF THE AIRPORT THAT WE'RE RELOCATING OUR FUNCTION, OR RELOCATED WAY, AND GIVE THEM A MORE ADEQUATE PLACE TO FILE IT'S FIVE OPERATIONS.

IT CAN BE IN A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS.

IT COULD BE ADJACENT INCLUDED IN A JWAL PROJECT.

YOU CAN LOCATE THEM THERE AS WELL, BUT IT'S INADEQUATE TOWARDS THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION.

THE ADVENT OF A SEPARATE REVENUE STREAM MAY ASSIST US IN THAT.

WE HAVEN'T TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHAT KIND OF DEBT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO INCUR.

WOULD THAT BE FUN? BUT THE PLAN THAT NEEDS TO BE [INAUDIBLE] LONDON FIRE PROJECTS.

>> CHIEF WE HEARD EARLIER THIS MORNING ANOTHER ONE OF THE FEDERAL DIRECT APPROPRIATIONS I THOUGHT WERE WILDFIRE TRAINING CITY SQUAD.

CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS A BIT OF GOOD NEWS?

>> YES, IT'S REALLY GOOD NEWS.

IT'S VERY AGGRESSIVE AND AMBITIOUS PROJECT THAT WE LOVE AND WHAT IT IS [INAUDIBLE].

AND SO AS WE KNOW, AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, MY RESTORATION EFFORTS, THE FIRST THING WE DO IS WE INTRODUCE A FEW COME BACK AND THEN THAT GENERALLY RELATES TO FUEL FADING THAT GENERALLY EQUATES TO PILE BURDEN.

THEN THE LAST STEP OF THE RESTORATION NOW IS PUTTING FIRE ON THE GROUND AND LETTING IT GO THROUGH THOSE LANDSCAPE AND TRACKS IS THAT INFORMATION EXCHANGE WHERE YOU GET TOGETHER WITH PEOPLE THAT DO THIS RESTORATION OF FOLKS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY.

IT'S JUST ADULT TRAINING EXCHANGE SO THAT WE CAN ADVANCE THAT EFFORT, AND IN THE HOSTING OF A TREKS EVENT LIKE THIS, IT BRINGS A LOT PIECES DOWN AND CREATES A LOT OF INTERNAL PICK-UP DECENT CAPACITY THAN WE NEED IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT [INAUDIBLE].

>> I MAY HAVE A MOMENT.

I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO JUST CHALLENGE ASSUMPTIONS A LITTLE BIT.

I'M SURE THIS ISN'T GOING TO GO ANYWHERE.

BUT IT'S THE RIGHT SPACE TO DO IT IN.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE IT A DUE DILIGENCE.

THE FIRE STATION NUMBER SIX, I SPENT QUITE A BIT AT A TIME OVER THERE, I GAVE IT A GOOD HARD LOOK RECENTLY.

THE NOTION THAT IT CAN'T BE EXPANDED, IT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANT TO SIT WITH FOR A MOMENT.

ENGINEERING WISE, SURE.

MAYBE IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LIFT IT UP.

THERE IS SPACE THERE.

THERE'S A RETENTION BASIN, OR A PART OF THAT FLOODWAY.

THERE'S A BUNCH OF [INAUDIBLE] OF THE TREES BUILT UP IN THAT AREA.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO EXPAND THE FIRE STATION IN THAT FOOTPRINT, BUT WITHIN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY, IF WE'RE ALREADY MOVING MOUNTAINS AND PUTTING BRIDGES OVER RAILROAD TRACKS, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHERE THERE'S A WILL, THERE'S A WAY.

MAYBE IT'S COST PROHIBITED, MAYBE THERE'S OTHER CONCERNS, MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE LADDER TRUCKS.

IT'S JUST EVEN WITH THE EXTRA SPACE, THE FOOTPRINTS THAT RIGHT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO LIFT THAT UP.

HAS ANYONE LOOKED AT THE ENGINEERING POSSIBILITIES FOR EXPANDING THAT SPACE?

[01:15:03]

OR HAS THERE JUST LARGELY BEEN AN THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE, WELL, THIS IS IMPRACTICAL, SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK ELSEWHERE? AND I MUST BE ASKED OUT OF THE LENS OF SUSTAINABILITY AND JUST DUE DILIGENCE.

>> DUE DILIGENCE ON DEFINING A NUMBER OF ISSUES, EVEN CREATING THE SIGNS.

IT'S ABOUT THREE-QUARTERS OF AN ANCHOR, THAT'S ACTUAL SIZE.

IT ACTUALLY APPEARS TO BARGAIN WITH THAT PERSON BECOMES A PART OF OPEN SPACE, AND THERE ARE DEEP RESTRICTIONS THAT DON'T ALLOW US TO APPROACH ON THAT AT ALL.

THE SITE BECAUSE OF ITS CONFIGURATION, THREE QUARTER, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK IN THERE, YOU CAN JUST GET AN ENGINE ON TURNING REGION.

IT AGAIN TO THE APPARATUS BASED, IT IS PROHIBITED FOR A LOT OF TRUCK DRIVERS WHO'D GET IT DONE.

SO I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU.

IF MONEY IS NOT OBJECT, WE CAN ENGINEER ANYTHING.

>> WHAT IS AN OBJECT?

>> WE HAD TO PULL THAT OUT JUST IN THE CONTEXT OF WHERE WE'RE EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT COSTS ARE GOING TO BE GOING INTO CONSTRUCTION.

IN A WAY WE'RE USING $800 A SQUARE FOOT ESTIMATES AND WE'RE CONCERNED THAT IT MAY BE INADEQUATE.

WHEN WE BEGAN TO GO WITH ENGINEERING FINE SOLUTIONS, ESPECIALLY TO WORK WITH A CHALLENGE SITE, IT'S LEAKING ELSEWHERE NEARBY.

>> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU FOR THE RESPONSE.

YOU'RE KNOW, JUST FROM A NAKED EYE JARGONS DO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S POSSIBILITIES THERE.

I JUST WANTED TO CHECK THAT BOX WITH YOU.

>> I GOT THAT NAKED EYE VIEW MYSELF UNTIL WE BE HANDLED WITH, GREAT.

>> OKAY. GREAT.

>> WE'RE DEALING MOSTLY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

OUR NEEDS ARE A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON OUR MAIN PRIORITY.

OVERALL, WE HAVE THREE PROJECTS ON THE UNFUNDED LIST.

ONE WAS THE EXPANSION OF THE POLICE ADMINISTRATIVE FACILITY ON SAWMILL.

THE OTHER WAS A ROOF REPLACEMENT TO THE FACILITY ON SAWMILL.

THAT ROOF IS 23 YEARS OLD.

WE'VE PATCHED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND IT'S HOLDING, SO THAT USED TO BE A HIGHER PRIORITY, IT'S ON JUST A LITTLE BIT.

OUR BIGGEST PRIORITY IS NEED FOR A LARGE GARAGE WITH THREE OR FOUR STORAGE SPACE ON SITE.

THIS IS OUR BOMB SQUAD TRUCK WORTH A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS AND IT'S SITTING OUTSIDE AND GETTING WETTER AND IT'S GOT SOME STUFF IN IT THAT REALLY SHOULD BE SECURED INSIDE.

WE DON'T AGREE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON EVERYTHING BUT THE OFFICERS REALLY LIKED THEIR GARAGE THAT HAVE DOORS ON EITHER END.

YOU CAN DRIVE THAT BEAUTIFUL END BOTH CAN AND KEEP THEM WARM, KEEP EVERYTHING SECURE AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO OPEN THAT OUTSIDE DOOR ME RIGHT OUT ON THE CITY SCREEN CABLE TO RESPOND.

THE OTHER VEHICLE LIKE THIS IS A SWAT VEHICLE THAT IS ALSO $2,000 TO $3,000 VEHICLE.

WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT TO TREMBLING AND WE USUALLY HOUSE THEM AT THE COMMERCE YARD, WHICH IS 5 MILES AWAY FROM OUR POLICE STATIONS.

IF THERE'S A SWAP CALL, PEOPLE EITHER RESPOND DIRECTLY IF THEY'RE ALREADY ON CONTROL OR THAT YOU ARE WITH THEM, BUT THEY'RE COMING FROM HOME.

SOMETIMES THEY HAD TO COME BY THE POLICE STATION DRAFT IT HERE AND THEN DRIVE 5 MILES OUT TO COMMERCE YARD TO GET LOADED UP IN THE TRUCK TO GO ON CALLS.

OUR BIGGEST PRIORITY IS GETTING A FACILITY OF THAT SIZE ON THE SITE.

THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, ADMINISTRATIVE SITE ON SAWMILL.

WE ARE IN TALKS WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT'S LOCATED SITE AND THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO EXPAND THEIR SEARCH AND RESCUE BUILDING AND WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE.

BUT WE'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THIS BUILDING FLOWS SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE RESOURCES CLOSE AND THEN THE THIRD VEHICLE INVOLVEMENT IN THERE'S OUR INCIDENT COMMAND VEHICLE WHICH IS STILL BE IN BUILT.

THEN THE IDEA IS SURPLUS OR AFFORD TO PAY.

FROM OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION.

SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO DO SEARCH WARRANTS ON CARS.

IF YOU'VE EVER TRIED TO DO A SEARCH WARRANT ON A CAR DURING A SIDEWAYS [LAUGHTER]

>> IT'S BETTER TO SECURE THAT VEHICLE.

THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY, WE HAVE AN INSIDE IT

[01:20:03]

JUST A LOT MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE TO DO.

THAT'LL BE OUR REQUEST FOR THE FUTURE UNBONDED, IF WE CAN FIND SOME FUNDS TO MEET THEM HAPPEN.

>> FOR A CLARIFICATION, CHIEF, YOU MENTIONED THAT WITH THE BOMB TRUCK VEHICLE AND ALSO YOUR SWAT VEHICLE, YOU SAID $2,000 TO $3,000 BUT THEN TO ME THAT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER COUPLE OF ZEROS.

>>THAT IS THE COST OF THE VEHICLES.

THE COST OF THE BUILDING WILL BE A LOT MORE. THAT'S A CHANCE.

>> SHOULD IT BE 3,000?

>> THE COST OF THE BUILDING IS NOW 9 MILLION.

>> COST OF THE VEHICLE.

>> YEAH. I COULD BE OFF A LITTLE BIT.

I DIDN'T PULL THOSE WERE VERY EXPENSIVE.

>> YES.

>> MAYBE IN A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

>> YES, A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WE CAN MOVE DECIMAL POINT AND ZERO.

[LAUGHTER].

>> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

>> THANK YOU.

[BACKGROUND]

>> THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE PRIMER SUPER BREAK. DO YOU WANT TO BREAK FOR NOW?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME FOR IT.

IF WE'RE CHANGING SUBJECTS, GREG, THIS MIGHT BE FOR YOU, SCOTT, IT MIGHT BE FOR YOU.

IN TERMS OF UNFUNDED FUTURE PROJECTS.

I'M VERY CURIOUS ABOUT CITY HALL.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT BUILDING IS AGING WELL, IF THERE ARE NEEDS INTERNALLY, WHERE SPACE COULD BE REARRANGED.

THAT BUILDING IS REAL HEADACHE IN THE WINTER WITH SNOW AND ICE FALLING.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE ARE ANY PLANS IN THE NEAR OR MID-TERM FUTURE FOR UPGRADES OR REDESIGN OF CITY HALL, INTERIOR EXTERIOR, AND WHERE THAT IS ON THE BUDGET LANDSCAPE.

>>YEAH.

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT FORM ANOTHER NATIVE BUILDINGS LEAKING PRETTY BADLY EVEN THOUGH REPAIRS WERE JUST DONE ETC.

>> BEFORE WE HEAR FROM SCOTT, I JUST WANT TO PREFACE BY FIRST THANKING YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

SECOND, NOTING WE HAVE A FACILITIES TEAM THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, AND A LOT OF THAT IS GOING INTO ALL OF THE FACILITIES, SCOTT.

>> I'M GOING TO OFFER UP. WE ARE ACTUALLY THE NEXT SLIDE.

WE JUST WANT TO STAY IN THE WORLD.

>> OKAY.

>> WE COME BACK TO YOUR QUESTION.

>> THAT'S JUST GOING TO SEE.

>> NEXT I'LL TALK ACTUALLY.

>> PERFECT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> GOING TO THE BREAK NOW?

>> YEAH.

>> WE'LL HAVE A 15 MINUTE BREAK OR JUST A FEW MINUTES MORE, WE'LL COME BACK AT 10:15.

THERE ARE A LOT OF NAMES UNDER THE UNFUNDED CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR PRESENTATIONS.

IF YOU HAVE NOT YET GONE, IF YOU COULD PLEASE JUST CHECK IN WITH ME DURING THE BREAK, LET ME GO PER HOW MUCH TIME YOU NEED FOR YOUR PRESENTATION THAT'LL HELP ME PLAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH ENJOY THE BREAK.

[BACKGROUND]

>> WELCOME BACK FROM BREAK.

JUST A FEW UPDATES ABOUT THE AGENDA.

WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED AGAIN WITH SCOTT OVERTON.

WE HAVE ABOUT 45 MINUTES OF PRESENTATIONS, NOT INCLUDING QUESTIONS LEFT IN THE FUTURE PLANNING AGENDA ITEM.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE RUNNING ABOUT 30 MINUTES AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AT THE MOMENT.

FOR THAT, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET'S PLAY ONE MORE QUICK ROUND OF, LET'S SETTLE IN, ANTICIPATING, AND EVEN SPLIT HERE.

I'M INVITING PEOPLE ONLINE TO MAKE SURE YOU RAISE YOUR DIGITAL HANDS AND PUT INTO THE CHAT BOX AND PERHAPS YOU CAN HELP ME COUNT THOSE UP.

ARE YOU READY?

>> YEAH.

>> THE QUESTION IS, CRUNCHY OR SMOOTH PEANUT BUTTER? IF YOU'RE WILLING TO VOTE FOR CRUNCHY, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

>> RAISE MY HAND.

>> CRUNCHY OR SMOOTH PEANUT BUTTER.

CRUNCHY RIGHT NOW.

[BACKGROUND]

>> ONE OF MY, ABOUT TWENTY.

>> TWICE NICOLE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> ALL RIGHT. NOW SMOOTH, RAISE YOUR HAND FOR SMOOTH.

[BACKGROUND]

>> 31 IT'S SETTLED CRUNCHY PEANUT BUTTER.

[01:25:04]

[NOISE] WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, SCOTT, OVER TIME, CAN YOU KICK US OFF, PLEASE? [INAUDIBLE] YES?

>> ON THE NEXT SLIDE. WANT ME ON THIS ONE TOO?

>> YEAH. WHY DON'T WE DO A TAG TEAM ON THIS. THANKS.

>> REBECCA.

YOU MIGHT HAVE IT PUT ON THIS FIRST ONE AS WELL, IF YOU LIKE.

COUNCIL, WE APPROACH THIS AT THE EARLIER RETREAT., AND THERE WAS GREAT DISCUSSION, AND FROM THAT DISCUSSION, A COUPLE OF OUTCOMES.

ONE, WE HEARD COUNCIL THAT THERE WAS INTEREST IN THIS SOUTHERN LOUISIANA, BUT THE DIRECTIVE TO STAFF WAS TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND START BENDING THIS THERE LOCALLY.

AND ALSO TO LOOK, IN ADDITION TO THE STEAM IDEA, TO LOOK AT OTHER POSSIBLE USES FOR WHAT MIGHT BE A MULTI-USE FACILITY THAT REBECCA AND SCOTT AND AUDIENCE WITH US.

THANK YOU.

THANKS, AMY. WE WORK.

WE WENT OUT TO SUNNYSIDE IS MET BECAUSE THERE'S A BIG GROUP.

THEY WERE VERY WELL-RECEIVED PRESENTATION.

SINCE THEN THEY HAVE BEEN MEETING, THEY FORMED A SUBCOMMITTEE.

THERE'S A LOT OF BENNY GOING ON AND IT'S HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK TO THE SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT IS QUITE HIGH AND I THINK COUNCIL HASN'T BEEN RECEIVING EMAILS ON THAT AND EVERY NOW AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THE SAME.

I THINK IT'S NOT YET KNOW WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WILL COME BACK WITH IN TERMS OF DESIRED USES OF THIS FACILITY.

BUT I THINK WE CAN ASSUME THAT ESTEEM FACILITY IN SOME SORT OF NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERING PLACE WILL BE HIGH ON THAT LIST.

BUT I DO THINK AT THIS POINT, THERE'S OVERWHELMING SUPPORT AND CONSENSUS THAT THIS SHOULD HAPPEN, THAT THE BUILDING SHOULD HAPPEN.

AND WE LIKEWISE AT THE STAFF LEVEL, WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD, BUT THIS IS ONE THAT'S FOR YOU BEFORE YOU NOW FOR SOME QUICK DISCUSSION OR MUCH DISCUSSION AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE SHOULDN'T DO FOR IT.

SO I'LL JUST PUT THE QUESTION OUT DIRECTLY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN WITH THE REALLOCATION OF THE $2.4 MILLION THAT IS CURRENTLY GOT ENCUMBERED IN THE GENERAL FUND.

THAT WAS MONEY RECEIVED THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR REVENUE LOSSES DURING COVID.

WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIT FOR THAT.

DEAN AND PROBABLY WE COULD GET THIS COMPLETED FOR THAT AMOUNT OR VERY CLOSE TO IT.

THE RENDERING THAT YOU SEE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THE FINAL DESIGN.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AS GIVEN SOME FEEDBACK, THEY LIKED THE FOOTPRINTS OF THE EURO OF BEANS AS IT'S IN SOME WAY DETACHED FROM, FROM THE BUILDING PERHAPS.

BUT I THINK THERE'S A DESIRE TO SEE THAT PRESERVE STOCK WITH RESPECT TO THE BRICKS-AND-MORTAR ASPECT OF THIS, YOU WANT TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU SAID IT WELL, WE ARE ON THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN HAS BEEN COMPLETED, THE RENDERINGS ARE COMPLETED AND THE INITIAL CONCEPT IS COMPLETED, BUT WE ARE IN A HOLDING PATTERN AT THIS POINT.

SO LISTENING SOME FEEDBACK AS WE GET IT.

BUT OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE MORE OF A FORMALIZED FEEDBACK PROCESS, INCORPORATING THOSE COMMENTS INTO POSSIBLE CHANGES.

WE WOULD START MOVING TOWARDS DESIGN CONTRACTS FOR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS TO GO TO BUILD THE BUILD STAGE YET.

BUT OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO GO TO FINAL DESIGN AND ASSIGNED PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND MOVE IT TOWARDS REALITY.

SO FOR US, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO TO THAT STEP.

IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD THE PROJECT, THERE IS NO SENSE OF JUST GETTING THAT, DESIGNING AND PUTTING IT ON A SHELF.

SO THAT'S REALLY, I THINK THE MAIN QUESTION THAT THIS BUDGET PROCESSES, ARE WE READY TO MOVE FORWARD? AND IF WE ARE ALL STARTED WORKING AT DESIGN A LITTLE BIT WORKER AND ASLEEP.

YOUR PREFERENCES DOT AT THIS TIME.

WE'LL JUST PUT IT ON.

THANK YOU. TO YOUR CUSTOMER CARD THERE DIDN'T WANT TO NOTE ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS PROJECT THAT I OVERLOOKED. IN PUBLIC RESTROOMS. REBECCA AND AMY HAVE BEEN AT POTENTIAL ADVOCATING FOR PUBLIC RESTROOMS TO ACCOMPANY TO ALL FIELD DICE THERE AND GUESS, HOW DO YOU USE? SO THERE'S A VERY CENTRIC ECCENTRIC FEATURE OF THIS AS WELL.

COUNCILMEMBER, GREAT.

[01:30:02]

I LOVE THIS PROJECT.

I THINK AT SOME PHOTOBLEACHING, GO AHEAD.

BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY HAVE TWO OR $3 MILLION OF DISCRETIONARY MONEY THAT WE COULD SPEND ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO TODAY IS MAKE A LIST OF THINGS LIKE THIS AND THIS SHOULD BE DEFINITELY ON THAT LIST.

AND THEN AFTER WE GO OVER ALL OF THE OTHER NAVIES, THEN WE CAN SAY, WELL, IF THESE TEN MADE, THESE, THESE ARE THE ONES I WANTED.

THAT'S MY OPINION. I THINK IT'S PREMATURE TO SAY YES OR NO ON THIS.

SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE WHOLE LIST. UNDERSTOOD.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS I DO WANT TO GET RIGHT TO YOU.

WANT TO MAKE MENTIONED GENESIS OR THIS GOES BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL THREE YEARS AGO.

I REMEMBER THAT. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S HOW IT STARTED.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OFFICER STOPS KINDA RUNNING WITH THIS THING, BUT IT'S A PROJECT THAT WE WERE THAT WAS IDENTIFIED A FEW YEARS, BUT AGAIN, WE ONLY HAVE TWO OR 3 MILLION OF DISCRETIONARY MONEY.

THIS ONE BASE TO THE TOP, BUT IT MIGHT NOT.

I THINK LATER TODAY WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.

CAN JUST ADULTS, REMEMBER CORRECTLY SAID, ARE THESE I MEAN, WE CAN JUST CONTINUE TO ADD PROJECTS WISHLIST.

IT COULD JUST GO ON MY LAWN.

ARE THE THREE THAT I'VE SEEN HERE.

THE WATSON HAS HAD THE MOST INTERESTS AS A PLACE WHERE WE'VE IDENTIFIED OR ARE THEY SEPARATE? OH, I'M TRYING TO ADD FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR LIVING IN OLD COURTHOUSE.

I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THOSE.

THOSE ARE NOT THOSE ARE AT VARIOUS LEVELS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ANYTHING AT THE MOMENT THAT'S REQUIRED EXPENDITURES.

SO BECAUSE I I REALLY SUPPORT THIS SUNNYSIDE THIS PROJECT IF THINGS SUNNYSIDE WOULD BENEFIT GREATLY BY HAVING SUCH A SHOT IN THE ARM WITHOUT BUT TO CANCEL NEUBERGER MCCARTHY'S.

I'M JUST NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING ELSE IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT.

I KNOW IF WE'VE PUT IT OUT THERE, EVERYBODY LINE UP THE ODM AND SAY, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS? WE NEED TO DO THIS.

THIS HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED THREE YEARS AGO.

IT SEEMS TO ME THE LOGICAL ONE TO DO AND TO USE THAT MONEY ON THIS AS LONG AS THERE'S NOT ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS PEAKS SO MUCH INTERESTS BEFORE WE HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THEY HAVE NEEDS.

I'M SURE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? RIGHT.

I WOULD LOVE TO JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT THEN I'VE PAID TO GET A PHONE CALL OR 100 EMAILS SAYING, OH MY GOSH, WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR X PROJECT FOR TEN YEARS.

AND WHY DID YOU CONSIDER IT? UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WAS THAT A QUESTION OR A COMMENT? MORE COMMON QUESTION IS LIKE, IS THIS IS THERE OTHERS THAT HAVE A MAP RIGHT HERE? I THINK THERE ARE ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE AS WELL FORMULATED AS THIS ONE RIGHT NOW, THIS IS GOING TO DISCUSS COMMENTS KINDA SHOVEL READY ONCE WE GET THE FINAL DESIGN.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE IN SAYING THAT I'M SURE THERE'S A LONG LIST OF PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THERE.

IF WE WERE TO DO SOME SORT OF SOLICITATION, MY GUESS IS YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT OF STUFF COMING IN ON THAT.

AND I DON'T SUPPORT SOLICITING FOR MORE JOBS.

THIS POINT.

I JUST WANT TO BE NEW ON COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW WHY.

I'VE NOT BEEN AWARE OF THEIR PROJECTS THAT HAVE HAD THE CITRUS.

I KNOW FOR ME THIS HAS A LOT OF INTERESTS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IT WITH CORPORATE AND THANK YOU.

THE OTHER PROJECT I MENTIONED IS THAT WORKS FOR ORGANICS.

IT'S NOT AS FAR ALONG ON THIS COUNCIL RECENTLY APPROVED THIS COUNCIL APPROVED TO THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN ON THAT.

REBECCA AND HER TEAM DID HAD A ONE-YEAR UNIT EMBEDDING WITH A LOT OF PUBLIC FORUMS AND INPUT ON THAT.

BUT THAT'S THE PROJECT THAT WILL TAKE YEARS TO SEE MATERIALIZED.

BOTH I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE BOTH PROJECTS ARE BASICALLY RE-PURPOSING OLD CITY FACILITIES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY BEING USED, AT LEAST IN THE MOST BENEFICIAL WAY?

>> IT'D BE MORE THAN.

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION COUNCILMEMBER HOWIE.

>> I VERY MUCH SUPPORT THIS AND WE CHATTED YESTERDAY ABOUT JUST THE INTERESTING CONVERSATION THAT HAVE COME UP SINCE THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT ONE OF OUR EARLIER BUDGET MEETINGS.

FROM MY RECOLLECTION, AT LEAST WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IT WAS SPECIFICALLY BROUGHT FORWARD AS RE-APPROPRIATING THAT 2.4 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT.

[01:35:03]

WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO SEE THE FULL LIST AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED, I WILL BE WORRIED ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF THEN GOING BACK ON WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WHICH WAS SPECIFICALLY THIS PROJECT.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE NOW, AS A RESULT OF THAT INITIAL CONVERSATION, RAISED THE COMMUNITY AWARENESS AND INTERESTS IN THIS SPECIFIC ONE TO A POINT WHERE THAT WOULD BE VERY CONTENTIOUS AS WELL.

THEN GO BACK AND SAY WELL, THANKS FOR ALL YOUR INPUT BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE, THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA.

THAT SAID, I DO REMEMBER DURING THAT CONVERSATION BEING ONE OF THOSE THAT WAS ASKING FOR US TO GO SPECIFICALLY TO THE SUNNYSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ASKED FOR THEIR THOUGHTS AND INPUT.

I THINK THAT WE'VE HEARD VERY RESOUNDINGLY THE SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT AND THE INPUT THAT THEY PUT INTO IT.

I'D LOVE TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.

>> PLEASE COUNCILOR SALTIZ.

>> I TOO, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

>> I THINK THAT I'M READY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. IT'S SHOVEL-READY.

IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROJECT.

CAN BE TALKING ABOUT IT. I'M EXCITED.

>> [INAUDIBLE] EVEN THOUGH I ANTICIPATE I WOULDN'T BE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT COUNCIL MEMBER. YES.

>> I TOO WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS CITY IN A COMMUNITY, IS WE'RE TRYING TO GET INPUT ON ALL THE STUFF THAT WE DO.

ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THAT IS TAKING THE TWO COMMUNITIES.

SOME COMMUNITIES DON'T COME DOWN TO CITY HALL TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING BECAUSE OF A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT REASONS.

BUT SEEING THE PRODUCTS THEY INTERACT AND HOW MUCH PARTICIPATION WE HAVE HAD BECAUSE WE STAYED IN COMMUNITY.

IT'S BEEN AMAZING TO SEE ALL THE INPUT THAT COMES WITH THAT, SO I THINK HAVING A BUILDING WHERE IT'S OPEN AND AVAILABLE AND PEOPLE ARE USING IT AND YOU CAN USE THAT TO PUT INFORMATION OUT, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

WE GET MORE THAN JUST A BUILDING.

WE GET, COMMUNITY INPUT AND SO FORTH.

THAT'S MY BIGGEST REASON, IS PROVIDING THE SPACE FOR COMMUNITY TO GIVE US INPUT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE CITY.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER, MURDOCH CENTERS.

JUST A WONDERFUL ARTICLE. YES, PLEASE.

>> THIS IS A CREDIT CARD, I THINK THE MURDOCH CENTER IS EXCELLENT ANALOGY.

WHEN THIS GETS BUILT, I THINK WE HAVE A SECONDARY DECISION.

IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE THE MURDOCH SEVEN WORDS AVAILABLE FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS OR IS IT GOING TO BE FILLED UP WITH ONE THING, THAT WOULD PREVENT IT FROM BEING USED FOR VARIETY THINGS LIKE MURDOCH CENTER IS USED NOW. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I THINK TOO MUCH.

>> THAT THE PURPOSE OF THESE MATERIALS, WE WELCOME THE DIALOGUES OF IT.

MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR ANY QUESTION?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU. WE'RE HEARING CONSENSUS AND IT'S EXCITING FOR US TO HAVE THAT INPUT FROM COUNCIL AND JUST SEE THIS POSSIBILITY ULTIMATELY BECOME A REALITY.

THERE'LL BE A PROJECT. MAY I MOVE ON? THE FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR LIVING IS A PROJECT THAT COUNCILS RECEIVED UPDATES ON.

I HAVE NOT BEEN VERY CLOSELY INVOLVED IN THIS, BUT I'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON [INAUDIBLE] OTHERS CAN SPEAK TO IT ELOQUENTLY.

IT'S AN EXISTING PROJECT THAT HAS YET TO BE BUILT.

THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF ATTEMPTS BY THE DEVELOPER, PRIVATE DEVELOPER, AND BY THE WAY, AS BACKGROUND, THIS IS A SENIOR HOUSING PROJECT, THAT WILL OCCUPY THE OLD SCHOOL FACILITIES OUT THERE AS CATHOLIC SCHOOL.

THE CITY'S INVOLVEMENT HAS BEEN TO RETAIN OR HAVE BUILT SOME PARKING SPACES RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING A FIELD SURFACE PARKING LOT THERE.

ACTUALLY A STRUCTURED FACILITY THAT WOULD INCLUDE A COUPLE OF FLOORS OF A PARTY THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE OUR NEW COURTHOUSE.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND WE HAVE MOST OF THE FUNDING ALREADY SET ASIDE FOR THIS.

[01:40:03]

THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION LAST YEAR WITH THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME.

THE PROJECT DEVELOPER HAS BEEN SEEKING TAX CREDITS.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY DOING THAT AGAIN.

WE SUBMITTED SOME SPORT LETTERS ON THAT STAY TUNED.

THIS IS REALLY JUST AN UPDATE ON THAT SHOW I DON'T KNOW.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED THAT I MIGHT HAVE MISSED, AND SO YOU CAN COME ON UP?

>> BEFORE THAT ANY QUESTION [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]

>> NO. I'M NOT CALLING YOU IN THE SESSION.

GOOD MORNING, MAYORS AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU.

WHOEVER NOTICED MY HAND RAISED, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CHAT.

ALSO THE CLOCK.

I HAD IT RAISED FOR A LITTLE WHILE BACK TO THE OLD FIRE STATION IN SUNNYSIDE.

I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THE USE, POTENTIAL USES.

JUST BE AWARE AT SOME POINT, WE DON'T NEED TO USE SESSION RIGHT NOW, BUT AT SOME POINT, LEGAL WOULD NEED TO UPDATE THE CURRENT COUNCIL AS WE DID PREVIOUS COUNCILS WITH RESPECT TO THE USE OF THAT FACILITY BASED ON WHERE IT'S LOCATED.

THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO DROP IN THERE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

SORRY. ANY OTHER ADDITION? YEAH.

>> NO, I'M SORRY. I CAN'T BE THERE WITH YOU.

I WISH I COULD HAVE, BUT NEXT WEEK WE'LL SEE YOU THEN.

>> LOOKING FORWARD TO. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR DAVID, A BIT OF A HOLDING PATTERN ON THIS, IS AN EXCITING PROJECT.

I CHARACTERIZE IT AS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

ITS FACILITY, AS I'VE MENTIONED, WILL BE LARGELY AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SENIORS.

BIKE LAYER, THE PARKING PART OF THIS, I BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT CAN BE REFURBISHMENT.

THAT WAS EVER DESIRE.

I THINK WE'RE CHECKING A LOT OF BOX ON THIS.

OLD COURTHOUSE PROPERTY, I MIGHT INVITE MICHELLE TO COME UP.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> WE HAVE A COUPLE SLIDES LATER.

>> I DON'T NEED TO SPEAK, RUB IT DOWN.

THANK YOU.

[LAUGHTER]

>> MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

WE KNOW WHO'S THE PRESENTER FOR THE NEXT SLIDE?

>> WHAT IS THE NEXT SLIDE? [OVERLAPPING]

>> ANY SHOVELS.

>> IT'S DESIGNED READY, NOT SHOVEL READY, JUST A FEW STEPS IN-BETWEEN.

IT WAS A GREAT QUESTION BEFORE THE BREAK, VICE MAYOR CAME UP WITH AN ACTUALLY, AS I REMEMBER WORKED ALL THE SLIDES AS A STAFF, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIVISIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT SOME ARE UNFUNDED, SOME ARE JUST CONTINUING NEEDS AND HOW WE CHISEL AWAY AT THEM THROUGHOUT THE BUDGETING PROCESS.

BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE HERE THAT I HAVE COME TO LIKE, OR FACILITIES IN PARTICULAR, AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES.

ONE IS A LARGER CAPITAL RENEWAL PROGRAM, AND AS A SMALL TEAM AND FACILITIES, WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THAT FACILITIES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING A MUCH BETTER JOB OF TRYING TO DELIVER SMALLER PROJECTS, BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT BEYOND PAINTING THIS ROOM, OR WORKING ON ROOF, WE'VE ALSO GOT SOME BIGGER PROJECTS, AND THESE ARE THE LARGER CAPITAL RENEWAL PROJECTS.

I STOLE A TERM THAT FUSB HAS BEEN USING.

IT'S MORE OF A MAJOR LIFECYCLE PROJECT.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT BE SPEAKING TO A MAJOR REMODEL IS INVOLVED WHERE YOU'RE REALLY UPDATING THE ENTIRE FACILITY, OR A NEW ROOF ON CITY HALL THAT'S IN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

EACH FACILITY ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION HAS THESE LARGE SYSTEMS NEEDS.

THE SIGHTING ON THIS BUILDING IS A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT PROJECT THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING READY TO UNDERTAKE THIS NEXT YEAR, BUT IT'S A LARGE BUILDING ON REMODEL PROJECT THAT NEEDS UP A LOT OF ANNUAL CAPACITY.

WE ARE STARTING TO GET INTO THESE CONVERSATIONS WHEREAS WE SCORE BUILDINGS AND WE SEE LARGE ROOF SYSTEMS, LARGE SIGHTINGS, LARGE WINDOW PROJECTS.

THEY'RE GETTING TO BE SO LARGE THAT THEY ARE DIFFICULT TO FUND THEM ON THE ANNUAL BASIS.

WE FIND OURSELVES EITHER CAREFULLY MOVING FORWARD FUNDS OR TRYING TO BUNDLE PROJECTS.

BUT I THINK WE ARE AT A POINT AS A CITY WHERE A NUMBER OF OUR FACILITIES HAVE COME TO A PLACE IN THEIR LIFE WHERE IT'S STARTING TO ADD UP.

WE WILL LIKELY NEED TO START TO IDENTIFY THESE REALLY BIG, LARGE-SCALE PROJECTS, AND BUNDLE THEM IN A WAY TO ADDRESS THOSE LARGER NEEDS.

IN ADDITION, THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS TALK ABOUT, THE PARKING LOTS, THE LANDSCAPING,

[01:45:03]

COMMON AREAS, THINGS THAT REALLY AREN'T AN ANNUAL BUDGET ITEM BUT WE KNOW ARE COMING TOWARDS INTO THIS LIBRARY PARKING LOT.

THINGS THAT ADD UP IN A HURRY BUT AREN'T REALLY IN THE STREETS PROGRAM, FOR EXAMPLE.

WE ARE NOW INCLUDING THAT IN OUR FACILITIES RENEWAL PROGRAM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIKELY HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE USED A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE, AND YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GET INTO THAT THIS AFTERNOON A LITTLE BIT, AND THIS WOULD BE ONE I WOULD RECOMMEND FROM PUBLIC WORKS PERSPECTIVES TO KEEP ON YOUR RADAR.

IT'S A POOR SERVICE AND YOU'RE RIGHT, AT SOME POINT ALL YOUR FACILITIES NEED TO REFRESH AND JUST LIFECYCLE PROJECTS.

ALL THE BEST USE OF SPACE AND EFFICIENCY.

WE'VE FOUND WHAT WE BUILT IN 1970S AND THE '80S ISN'T QUITE SAME BEING BUILT TODAY.

ARE WE GOING TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING, OR WE ARE GOING TO RENOVATE SPACE WE ALREADY HAVE? THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY HAVE.

DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CITY HALL AND THAT BIGGER LARGE SCALE PROJECT? WE HAVE ONE IN PARTICULAR WE'D LIKE TO [OVERLAPPING].

>> JUST IN GENERAL TERMS, I DON'T PLAN ON BEING AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO ENJOY THE NEW AMENITIES OVER THERE.

THERE ARE 10, 20 YEARS HORIZON, BUT THAT BUILDING NEEDS A LOT OF WORK.

IT WAS NICE, IT WAS AN EXEMPLARY, OR AN EXAMPLE OF EFFICIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY IN SOME CERTIFICATION.

IT SHOULD BE REORIENTED SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE EMPLOYEES SPENDING THREE MONTHS OF THE YEAR OUTSIDE CURSING THE SIDEWALK AND THE STEPS.

THERE'S ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE BETTER WITH THAT SPACE, AND IT IS A FLAGSHIP SPACE.

IT'S THE FACE AND THE IDENTITY OF NOT JUST THE MUNICIPALITY, BUT CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR, MORE OFFICE SPACE.

IT'D BE NICE IF WE EACH HAD OUR OWN LITTLE CUBICLE THERE INSTEAD OF JUST A CONFERENCE ROOM.

IT'S REALLY JUST A BIG VENDING MACHINE FOR US, ET CETERA.

IF THERE'S SPACE ON THE HORIZON TO BE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO REPURPOSE AND JUST RE-IMAGINE CITY HALL, IT'S AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION.

BUT THIS IS THE TIME TO BRING IT UP, BUT IT'S NOT THE TIME TO DIVE INTO THE WEEDS ABOUT IT.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> GOT IT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION TO KEEP IN MIND, AS YOU SAID, AMONGST ARE DOZENS OF BUILDINGS.

WE COME TO THIS CONCLUSION WITH CITY BUILDINGS, AND FACILITIES COMMUNITY-WIDE.

THE COMPLEX TO THE NEEDY, THE NEW COURTHOUSE, GOING TO BE REPLACED, OUTDATED BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS NOT FEEDING THEIR NEEDS.

THE NEW CORE SERVICES FACILITY IN 2018, FIRE STATION RELOCATION PROGRAM.

I THINK THROUGHOUT THE DECADES THAT MY OPINION IS EXACTLY WHAT ELECTED BODIES DO, IS YOU FORECAST WHERE YOU WANT TO GO WITH IT AND THEN TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

IN THE PAST, IT'S BEEN A LOT OF NEW BUILDINGS, HAVE BEEN AT THAT POINT.

WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT ANALYSIS ON WHETHER WE WOULD REMODEL THAT FACILITY, OR IS THE COST-BENEFIT JUST BETTER TO REWORK IT, OR JUST BUILD ANOTHER FACILITY.

WE'VE NOT GONE THROUGH THAT EFFORT, BUT IT'S GREAT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I WOULDN'T ADVOCATES TO CHANGE LOCATIONS.

NICE SPOT, I MEAN IT'S BEAUTIFUL SPOT BUT REALLY.

BUT YEAH, YOU'RE THINKING BIG PICTURE, I GET IT.

BUT THAT'S 1982 BUILDING, IF I RECALL.

IT'S DOING LOTS OF COMPETING VALUES.

ANOTHER ONE THAT WE REALLY HAVE SEEN THE IMPACT OF IN PARTICULAR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS THE LOSS OF CITY SPACE FOR STORAGE.

NONE MUST LIKE TO STORE, BUT HERE'S THE REALITY, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME STORAGE.

HOLIDAY DISPLAYS, PROPERTY SURPLUS, FURNISHINGS, ATTIC STOCK, WOOL PRODUCTS, INVENTORY, EVERY DIVISION HAS A STORAGE NEED OF SOME SORT.

GENERAL STORAGE SEEMS TO BE WHERE WE ARE MOST LACKING.

WE HAVE LOST WHAT WE WERE UTILIZING, LIKE THE THIRD PART ANNEX SITE.

WE NOW AFFORD PARK.

WE HAVE LOST THE PHOENIX PROJECT NOW TO THE DCC, OR THE PHOENIX BUILDING.

WE HAVE A ONE SMALL REMAINING SPOT LEFT ON DOWNTOWN.

IT'S THE [INAUDIBLE] WAREHOUSE FOR SOME ARCHIVES STORAGE.

THEN PDE HAS A CRAMMED FULL STORAGE, A LARGE WAREHOUSE SPACE OUT ON COMMERCE, BUT INDUSTRIAL STORAGE SPACE IS BECOMING SHORT LIVED.

WE HAVE VEHICLES STORAGE NEEDS, PRODUCT NEEDS, BACKSTOP NEEDS, AND THEN THINGS, ITEMS LIKE SHOVELS AND VOLUNTEER STUFF.

AN OPEN SPACE THAT'S A LOT OF STUFF.

WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS SPACE, OR RENT THIS SPACE IN THE FUTURE, I THINK IT WILL COME UP AS IT IS, A LACK INDEED, BUT PRETTY ESSENTIAL.

IT'S LIKE HAVING A GARAGE. THAT IS THE LAST OF MY SLIDES FROM FACILITIES.

[01:50:05]

COURT HOUSE SITE REDEVELOPMENT.

>> I MEAN DIRECTOR. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE OLD COURTHOUSE SITE REDEVELOPMENT.

I'M GOING TO START TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN VISION.

IT WAS INITIATED IN 2018 AND REALLY MEANT TO BE A GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR A UNIFIED VISION FOR DOWNTOWN.

IDENTIFY CATALYST SITES AS WELL AS GUIDE DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN REACTIONARY DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT APPLICATIONS COME IN, AND YOU HAVE A BIG COMMUNITY REACT TO THEM.

THAT IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.

THEY'RE MANAGING THE CONTRACT AS A PROCESS, OR THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY, THE COUNTY AND THE UPLINE.

THAT PART OF THAT PLAN IS NOT YET FINALIZED BUT YOU HAVE SCHEDULED TO UPDATE YOU ON THAT.

BUT ONE OF THE SITES THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A CATALYST SITE IS THE OLD COURTHOUSE SITE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY JUST EAST OF CITY HALL USED FOR PARKING.

IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR BEING OF MIXED-USE, PROVIDING COMMERCIAL, MAYBE HOTELS, GROCERY STORES, RETAIL, AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL AND PARKING, AS FAR AS THOSE [INAUDIBLE] PARKING FOR DOWNTOWNS.

THERE IS A LOT OF INTEREST FROM SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS SEEING THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT SITE, BUT BEFORE ANYTHING CAN REALLY HAPPEN, WE HAVE TO FINALIZE THAT DOWNTOWN VISION.

CURRENTLY, IT STARTED RIGHT BEFORE COVID, WHICH REALLY SLOWED SOME THINGS DOWN.

THEN THERE WERE SOME CHANGES OF THE COUNTY, AND SO WE HAD TO PAUSE AND WORK WITH THEM TO GET THEIR NEW VISION FOR WHAT THEY SEE BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS DOWNTOWN.

RIGHT NOW THOSE CHANGES ARE WITH PUMA WHO IS THE CONSULTANT, AND THEY'RE INCORPORATING ALL OF THAT.

ONCE WE GET THOSE CHANGES BACK, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE PLAN BACK TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE WHO STARTED WORKING WITH THE PROJECT IN THE VERY BEGINNING, GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON WHERE THE PLAN IS GONE.

THEN WE'LL TAKE IT BACK OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO GET THAT FINAL INPUT AND FEEDBACK.

THERE IS A WORK SESSION PLAN WITH CITY COUNCIL FOR A MUCH MORE IN-DEPTH OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE BACKGROUND OF THAT PROJECT AS WELL AS [INAUDIBLE], THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 26 THOUGH.

[INAUDIBLE] ITEM TO START YOUR WEIGHT TO BEGIN WITH.

THEN WE HOPE TO BE BACK WHEN YOU COME BACK FROM BREAK WITH A FINAL PRODUCT TO ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

ONCE THE PLAN IS APPROVED, SHORTLY AFTER, WE'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY START THE FORMAL SOLICITATION.

IT IS TO THE PROPERTY, SO WE CAN'T JUST ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH ANYBODY, IT NEEDS TO BE A FAIR PROCESS.

THAT COULD BE EITHER WITH THE RFP, OR THE RSOQ, THAT TO BE DETERMINED, AND REALLY THAT'S IT.

WE JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH EVERYTHING.

THEN AGAIN, I KNEW ON COUNCIL, SO I'VE MISSED A LOT OF THE DIALOGUE HERE BUT ONE OF THE COMMON COMPLAINTS I HAVE HEARD FROM OUR COMMUNITY IS THAT ONE COUNCIL DOES.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS WITH THIS PROJECT, AND THIS IS IN THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

THEN FIVE OR WHATEVER YEARS LATER, WE DON'T FOLLOW WITH THAT, AND WE DO SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

THIS COURTHOUSE SITE HAS CAME UP A LOT WHEN I'M OUT IN THE COMMUNITY ALREADY COMPLAINING THAT WE WERE TOLD THIS WAS GOING TO BE A PARKING STRUCTURE.

THIS IS THE MAJORITY THAT I HEAR FROM.

LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL NEVER FOLLOWS THROUGH WHAT THEY'VE COMMITTED TO.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THROUGH A VOTE OR WHATEVER, BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO PRESENT BECAUSE I HEAR THAT AWFUL A LOT, THE DISTRUST, AND IT FINALLY COMES FROM JUST HAVING A DIFFERENT COUNCIL WHEN IT COMES UP TO TAKE THAT NEXT STEP.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US, THE NEW COUNCIL, AT LEAST FOR ME, TO KNOW WHAT WAS PROMISED OR SOLD TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE WERE BUILDING THE NEW COURTHOUSE, SO THAT WHEN WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS, WE CAN FACTOR THAT IN, BECAUSE FOR ME IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE AND IDENTIFY PRIOR COMMITMENTS THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS WITHOUT THAT KNOWLEDGE, AND THEN CONTINUING THIS DISTRUST DIVISION TO BEGIN WITH.

I APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S PART PRESENTATION ON JUNE 27,

[01:55:04]

THE BAPTISTERY IS IN THERE.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE CONVERSATION SO FAR, BUT IT WAS LIKELY VERY MUCH IN THIS PROJECT WOULD INCLUDE SOME FORM OF EFFECTIVE INSTRUCTION PLUS A LOT MORE ADDED COMMUNITY UP IN TEXAS, SO THANK YOU. YES.

>> IT'S IMPORTANT FOR COUNCILS NOT TO TIE THE HANDS OF OTHER COUNCILS.

I THINK THAT WHEN WE ALL TAKE THESE ROLES, I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE CITY IS GROWING, THINGS ARE CHANGING.

IT'S LIVING, IT'S NOT STATIC.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TRY AND DO WHEN I'M OUT THERE TALKING TO THE PUBLIC IS TO TRY AND HELP THEM SEE HOW WE'RE CHANGING AND HOW WE'RE GROWING.

WHAT WE DECIDED YESTERDAY, SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED, SO MAYBE WE DECIDE SOMETHING DIFFERENT TODAY.

THAT'S GOT TO BE OKAY, OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO JUST STAY STUCK.

NOW, WHEN WE DO PROMISE DOLLAR SOMETHING, EITHER ON A BOND OR WHATEVER, THEN YEAH, WE OUGHT TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT.

BUT IF IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT ANOTHER COUNCIL HAS HEARD, AND MAYBE WE'VE DECIDED NOW, IN THIS COUNCIL THAT MAYBE WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THIS, I THINK THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS AND WE NEED TO KEEP THOSE THINGS SEPARATE.

SO LET'S JUST SEE WHERE WE GO, AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

BUT IF THERE WAS NO BOND ASSOCIATED TO THIS AND IF WE DIDN'T PROMISE THEM SOMETHING, THEN I THINK EVERYTHING IS OPEN.

THAT'S JUST MY TWO STANDS.

>> NOT TO GO TOO FAR DOWN THIS RABBIT HOLE, BUT THE REPRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE WAS TIED TO A BOND MEASURE, THAT THE MATERIAL WAS IN THE INFORMATION PAMPHLET THAT WENT OUT IN ADVANCE OF THAT, AND WAS PREMISED UPON A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY FOR A NEW COURT FACILITY THAT ULTIMATELY DID NOT HAPPEN.

THE CITY WENT ALONE IN THIS FACILITY THAT'S NOT BUILT, IT'S BEAUTIFUL COURTHOUSE, BUT THAT REPRESENTATION THAT HAS STILL BEEN OUT THERE IN THE FORM OF THAT INFORMATION PAMPHLET, AND THE PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAVE WRESTLED WITH THIS QUITE A BIT BECAUSE GOING BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEW'S COMMENTS, THERE'S PUBLIC PERCEPTION OUT THERE AND IN THIS CASE, THEIR PERCEPTION HAS WRITTEN TEXT TO SUPPORT IT.

IT IS SOMETHING WE ALL NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF.

WE EASILY COULD EXPLAIN HOW THINGS CHANGED ON THE EVE OF THAT BALLOT APPROVAL THAT THAT HAPPENED, BUT IT'S COMPLICATED, AND THERE YOU HAVE IT.

I WILL ECHO WHAT MICHELE STATED THOUGH.

WE HEAR NOT ONLY FROM THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, THEY WANT TO SEE PARKING HERE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

BUT I THINK WITH DIVISION PLAN THAT'S FORTHCOMING, THE IDEA OF HAVING PARKING INTEGRATED INTO A MULTI-USE FACILITY THAT CHECKS A LOT OF BOXES IS PROBABLY WHAT'S GOING TO COME TO THE TABLE FOR CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE EVEN THE DOWNTOWN VISION AS THE DRAFTS THAT WE HAVE SEEN, THEY ARE NO LONGER EMBRACING THE IDEA OF A BIG PARKING STRUCTURE AS IT'S CENTRALIZED FEATURE IN DOWNTOWN, BUT RATHER MORE DISPERSED PARKING DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER USES.

SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE BACKUP TO THAT.

THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS.

>> THE PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT, I CAME IN IN 2018, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I REMEMBER BEING INVOLVED IN IS THIS PARKING CONVERSATIONS WITH DOWNTOWN.

THERE WAS SPACE AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE A CHARRETTE, I BELIEVE MAYBE DAN CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK THAT FAR IN HISTORY.

BUT THAT WAS TABLED, AND THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROVERSY AROUND THE PARKING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT IS THE FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR LIVING.

THE CONVERSATION YOU JUST BROUGHT TO US ABOUT PARKING IS WRAPPED UP IN THAT AS PART OF THE SOLUTION FOR THOSE EARLY DIALOGUES.

YEAH, THAT PARKING CONVERSATION PERSISTS TO THIS DAY.

I THINK IT'S EVOLVED INTO THIS MULTI FOOTPRINT STRATEGY THAT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE FAIRLY EXCITED ABOUT.

I JUST WANTED TO GET UP TO SPEED ON THAT NOTE.

>> YOU CAN JUDGE THAT, BUT I SEE DAN WALKING UP.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE OUTCOME VISION IS THE RESPONSE TO THAT MAYBE HAVING A CHARRETTE.

[02:00:01]

>> YEAH.

>> THIS IS THE COMMUNITY'S RESPONSE, THIS IS THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO THAT, SO THIS WORK IS THAT THEY DIDN'T DEFINE VISION THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> I'M SORRY.

>> IT SHIFTED FROM CHARRETTE SUPER SPINNING TO THE TOP DIVISION.

>> I THINK THAT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS US JUST BEING CAREFUL IN OUR LANGUAGE WE ARE DOING A PROJECT BECAUSE IT DOES EVOLVE OVER TIME.

IT'S BEEN SO LONG THAT THESE THINGS SHOVELS TO THE GROUND, AND SO I THINK THAT WE WOULD DO OUR FUTURE COUNCIL A SERVICE BY MAKING SURE WE'RE USING LANGUAGE THAT IS NOT SO MIDDLE TO SOMETHING UNDERSTANDING THAT THINGS EVOLVE TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE SEE AS A POTENTIAL FOR THAT SPACE, AND SO THE EXPECTATION IS THAT, TODAY WE'D LIKE THAT, BUT IN 10 YEARS, YOU'RE RIGHT, OUR NEEDS HAVE CHANGED, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE WOULD BE MORE MINDFUL OF THE LANGUAGE. [INAUDIBLE]

>> I'LL BE BRIEF BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS COMING BACK IN JUNE.

BUT I THINK IF WE DID A MIXED USE PROJECT, OR SOME PARKING, AND SOME COMMERCIAL, POSSIBLY SOME RESIDENTIAL, I THINK WE WOULD BE MEETING OUR COMMITMENTS AND DOING WHAT IS GOOD FOR OUR DOWNTOWN, FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND FOR THE IDEA OF PRIOR DENSITY WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.

BUT I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT MISS MERCY SHE SAID ALSO [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU. YES.

>> BACK TO FOLLOW.

>> IT'S LUNCH TIME.

>> OKAY.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT GIRLS SOFTBALL COMPLEX.

THIS SLIDE IS ABOUT A DESIGN-BUILD THAT GIRLS USE SOFTBALL COMPLEX AND CONTINENTAL PARK.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN CAMP RETREAT.

WE BUILT A JOB.

SHEETS. HANSEN MENTIONED THIS EARLIER THIS MORNING, THIS ONE AND SHE ECOTOURISM AND FULFILL A LARGE VACANCY WITHIN OUR SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE WITHIN PROSE.

OBVIOUSLY, IT PROMOTES A SAFE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY AND JUST WANT TO GET THAT TIDBIT FROM THAT BIG SHIFT TOWARDS THE PROSE DIVISION, WOULD PDP READ CAPITAL FUNDS.

WE DO HAVE THIS PLANNED OUT, AT LEAST TO THIS NINE OF A COMPLEX AND WE'LL GET WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT WE CAN OUT OF IT TOO, BUT THAT'S IN FUTURE YEARS.

THAT'S AFTER THEY STARTED IN FISCAL YEAR 26 THROUGH 28.

THIS IS JUST THE A PLAN TO SEE IN CASE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE TO CONTRIBUTE FUNDS TO, OR PUSH OUT IN SOME WAY OR SOME REDUCTION.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE GIRLS SOFTBALL COMPLEX?

>> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS.

>> [INAUDIBLE] GO THERE, RIGHT?

>> I WOULD JUST GO THERE TO HANG OUT ALL DAY.

[BACKGROUND]

>> VICE MAYOR.

>> YEAH. I'VE ASKED THIS BEFORE, BUT REMIND ME AND JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE TOPIC.

HOW MUCH OF THIS IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN?THEN MY OTHER QUESTION, JUST SOMETHING I ALWAYS WANT TO KEEP A PULSE ON IS THE NIGHT TIME LIGHTING AND DARK SKIES APPEARANCE, AND I KNOW THERE'S DIFFERENT PARAMETERS FOR DIFFERENT DISTANCES AWAY FROM NAVAL OBSERVATORY AND WE SORT OF HAVE A MAP ON THERE.

I WOULD JUST CHALLENGE ALL OF US TO KEEP FLAGSTAFF AS DARK AS POSSIBLE, EVEN EXTENDING FURTHER OFF INTO SOME OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS, IT LIFTED A LITTLE BIT JUST TO STAY ON THE SIDE OF BEING AHEAD OF THINGS AS FUTURE GROWTH, LIKE DAWN PRESSURES ON OUR COMMUNITY.

IF YOU COULD JUST SPEAK TO THOSE TWO THINGS BRIEFLY, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

>> ABSOLUTELY, SO THAT THE REST OF CONTINENTAL PARK OR REGIONAL PARK, IT'S ROUGHLY 85 ACRES, AT LEAST ON THE FLOODPLAIN.

IT BASICALLY EXTENDS FROM THE 40 SOUTH TO THE EXISTING CONTINENTAL PARK, WHICH IS BY BASEBALL OR FOUR BASEBALL FIELDS, ONE SOFTBALL FIELD, AND THEN DOWN TO THE BOTTOMLESS PIT, WHICH IN DURING THIS SNOW MELT, WE FOUND THE BOTTOM OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT.

SO IT IS ALL THERE.

WE WOULD NEED TO WORK WITH OUR STORM WATER PARTNERS IN FIGURING OUT HOW WE RAISE THE BASE ELEVATION AND WORK WITHIN THOSE PARAMETERS, UNLESS UNABLE IN A FLOOD PLAIN, FIELDS ARE USUALLY A GREAT EXAMPLE OF.

>> I THINK IT'S A GREAT SPACE.

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>> EXACTLY.

IN REGARD TO DARK SKIES, WE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE TO MEET DARK SKIES COMPLIANCY.

THERE ARE LIGHTS OUT THERE ON THOSE LYING FIELDS TODAY.

I THINK THE LIGHTING IS BECOMING DRAMATICALLY BETTER EVERY YEAR THAT COMES BY THE WAGON THAT I'VE SEEN LATELY.

THEY BLEW EVERYONE OUT OF THE WATER.

IT WON'T EVEN COMPARE TO THIS [INAUDIBLE] SYSTEM. BUT YOU ARE CORRECT.

I THINK WE'RE PRETTY FAR AWAY IN THIS LOCATION FROM SOME OF THOSE ENVELOPES WITH NAVAL OBSERVATORY ON THAT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ORDER THOSE POSSIBLE REGARDLESS.

>> ALWAYS. YES.

>> I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD HAVE SKYLIGHT INDUCE AN UPDATE ON THAT.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE STANDARDS FOR OUTDOOR RECREATION FIELDS.

WE'VE GOTTEN RID OF HIKING ZONE THREE, SO THIS PARK IS DOWN TO HIKING ZONE TWO.

AGAIN IT WOULD COMPLY WITH OUR OWN STANDARDS, WE ADD ONE SPECIFIC FOR OUTDOOR RECREATION FOR THE MAXIMUM MOVEMENT AND HOURS OF OPERATION SET IN MOTION.

>> THANKS [INAUDIBLE].

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON GIRLS SOFTBALL? [INAUDIBLE]

>> HI EVERYONE. I'M ROBIN, I'M THE SUPERVISOR.

THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO WORK TOWARDS COMPLETING THE NUISANCE OF THIS SYSTEM FOR CURRENT OPEN SPACES PRETTY WELL DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND THE EAST VM PICTURE CANYON FOR ESSENTIAL MCMILLAN BASIC JUST SOMETHING TO BUFFALO PARK, CARIBBEAN, AND THE WEST VIA OBSERVATORY V6.

SO THIS PROJECT WILL NOT IMPROVE CONNECTIONS AND ACCESS TO OUR CURRENT COVID SPACE AND ALSO TO OUR REGIONAL LAND MANAGEMENT PARTNERS.

OF COURSE IT'S INTERNALLY FOR PARTNERS WHICH THE CITIZENS WILL PARSE THOSE CONNECTIONS TO BUFFALO PARK WHERE THEY CARRY CONNECTIONS DOWN TO FOUR TOUGH HILL, AND THEN OF COURSE OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS, BUT [INAUDIBLE] ALSO LOOK AT PROVIDING BETTER ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE A 10-MINUTE ACCESS WORKING TIME GOAL WITH COMMUNITY THAT'S IN LINE WITH PARTS OF SUPERVISORS FLUID, THAT ACCESS FROM NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

CURRENTLY, WE LACK SOME ACCESS AND OPEN STATE QUADRANT OF FLIGHTS THAT GENERAL VICINITY DOWN HERE, SO WE WILL LOOK AT ACQUIRING SOME ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE FOR ITSELF AND THE HIGH-AUTHORITY [INAUDIBLE].

THIS HAS BEEN AN IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE OPEN SPACES COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY, AND WE THINK THAT IT DOES MEET A NUMBER OF PDB GOALS, SUCH AS SUPPORTING ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE TO HELP PROVIDE THE EQUAL DISTRIBUTION, OPEN SPACE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND EQUAL ASKED AS WELL.

IT HELPS PROMOTE HEALTHY LIFESTYLES AND TO LOOK AT RESEARCH FROM OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE WELL DISPERSED ACCESS TO AN OPEN SPACE.

THERE HOUSE TENDS TO BE [INAUDIBLE] WE DO THINK THAT IT WILL HELP US PROTECT ENVIRONMENTAL PROPERTIES, VIEWSHEDS, AND WILDLY RESOURCES THAT REALLY HELP. ANY QUESTION?

>> I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED OUR WILDLIFE CORRIDORS.

IT CAN TO BE FORGOTTEN SO EASILY, BUT IN FACT THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

>> ON THIS COMMENT, WELL, THIS IS ALWAYS AN EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION THAT I THINK ACQUISITION OF RATHER OPEN SPACE ISN'T REALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY FOR US TO BE STEWARDS OF OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS AND IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE THAT WE SHOULD NOT SHY AWAY FROM.

>> MAY I RAISE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE WANTED TO JUST BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, THIS IS AN EXTRA GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME, THE BIGGEST SPLICE UP LIBRARY AND WE LEASE SPACE IN THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE AT, AND COULD A COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

LINDA WILSON, OUR NEW LIBRARY DIRECTOR RECENTLY MET WITH THE NEW PRESIDENT OF CCC.

SHOCKINGLY, HE MENTIONED THE ENDEAVOR THAT THEY WOULD SOME TIME WOULD LOVE TO TAKE THEIR SPACE BACK.

THEY FEEL LIKE THEIR PROGRAMMING IS GETTING VERY EXTENSIVE AND THEY NEED THEIR SPACE.

WE CURRENTLY LEASE 10,000 SQUARE FEET FROM THEM.

THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN JUST DO TOMORROW.

SO WE REACHED BACK TO THE PRESIDENT AND SAID, HOW SOON?

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BECAUSE OUR LEASE COMES UP, JULY OF 2024.

HE BASICALLY WOULDN'T WANT A HEADLINE IN THE PAPER THAT HE KICKED OUT THE LIBRARY, BUT I WILL SAY THAT I THINK I'D LIKE US TO BE ACTIVELY WORKING ON IT.

WE HAVE CONNECTED LIBRARY TOLSON.

LINDA TOLSONS.

[LAUGHTER] SERIOUSLY.

>> I KNOW.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S UP. I'M ON THE LABOR IT BUT THAT'S IT.

WE'VE CONNECTED LINDA WITH JOHNSON TALL, OUR BUSINESS RETENTION EXPANSION MANAGER TO START LOOKING AT SOME PLACES THAT THE LIBRARY COULD GO.

THEN IDEALLY LIBRARY IN THE FUTURE, THE REASON WHY THEY'RE ON THE UNFUNDED IS THE PROJECT WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD IDEALLY LOVE TO HAVE A STANDALONE EAST BY STAFF LIBRARY, AND WE IDEALLY WOULD LIKE TO GO FROM 10,000 SQUARE FEET TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET.

THAT LIBRARY IS VERY SMALL AND THEY'RE BASICALLY BUSTING AT THE SAME SIZE IT IS.

THERE'S SUCH A NEED OVER THERE ON THE SIDE THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT WOULD NEVER BE THE SIZE OF OUR MAIN LIBRARY THAT OF COURSE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE BETTER LIBRARY SITUATION.

WE JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON YOUR RADAR AND THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO UPDATE YOU ON HOW WE'RE PROGRESSING TO LOOK FOR A DIFFERENT LOCATION THAT THEY COULD PROBABLY LEASE FROM GOING DOWN. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I'M TRYING TO VISUALIZE.

I ALWAYS FOCUS ON 4TH STREET.

IS THERE A COUPLE OF BUILDINGS THAT OUR EYES ARE ON THE SAME, CAN THIS MIGHT WORK OUT FOR US OR?

>> I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHICH ONES, BUT I KNOW THAT JOHN AND LINDA ARE GOING TO GET A FINE WHAT'S CLOSE.

THE WHOLE IDEA WOULD BE TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BEING USED RIGHT NOW AND REFURBISHING IT.

BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE.

WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT AND IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT WE'RE JUST RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW CCC THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE PROGRESS, SO PROBABLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO ASK FOR AT LEAST EXTENSION FOR JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT MAYBE WE HAVE SOME IDEAS IN THE HOPPER BEFORE WE GO BACK TO THE NEXT.

THIS LIBRARY IS VERY ACTIVELY USED BY THE AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS FOR SURE, SOME LOCATION IS VERY IMPORTANT.

IF YOU'RE, JUST REACH OUT TO ME, IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS, WE'RE ALL EARS, BUT WE JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS IS.

IF YOU WERE EVER TALKING TO CCC.

THIS CAME UP, WE DIDN'T WANT YOU TO HEAR IT FROM THEM, WE WANTED YOU TO HEAR IT FROM US.

>> I WANTED TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT LOCATION IS IMPORTANT.

IT BEARS REPEATING.

THE SCHOOLS IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY RELY ON THAT RESOURCE HEAVILY, AND THEY SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DO SO.

SOMETHING VERY CLOSE TO THE CURRENT LOCATION WOULD BE HEAVILY PRIORITIZED?

>> DEFINITELY. LINDA AVERAGE JOB SUGGESTED SOMETHING TO ME THAT I SUGGESTED [INAUDIBLE], WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU, BUT BUT WON'T BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ON THAT.

AGAIN, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THERE'LL BE A CHANGE IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> JOEL JOHNSSON WATER SERVICES RESILIENCY DIRECTOR.

I THINK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PENDANT FOR SOME OTHER CONVERSATIONS ON PROJECT SPECIFIC, ON THE UNFUNDED.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL TO BE TALKING ABOUT WATER SERVICES.

RIGHT NOW, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO LISTEN PROJECTS OR IF THEY JUST SHOW UP [LAUGHTER]

>> ABOUT $6 MILLION WITH THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GREAT THINGS AND THERE HAS TO BE DONE.

BREAKING THAT DOWN, I WILL SAY ABOUT 182 MILLION ART PROGRAM THROUGH OUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN, WHICH IS ABOUT 20 PERCENT OF THAT LIST OF UNFUNDED.

I HIGHLIGHTED A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THERE, BUT AGAIN, THE CONVERSATION IS UNNECESSARY ABOUT SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

I THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT PROGRAMMING.

AGAIN, WHEN I LOOK ABOUT WHAT'S NOT FUNDED BUT THAT'S THE WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE.

WATER PROGRAMS AND THERE'S DIFFERENT MECHANISM.

WHEN DID THESE NEED TO OCCUR? AT THE FUNDING STRATEGIES THAT WE GET THOSE THINGS DONE AND HOW WOULD WE DO THAT SMARTER? I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE DRINKING WATER SIDE OF IT, I THINK THAT I WOULD TALK ABOUT RESILIENCY, OUR ABILITY TO ADAPT TO ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES THAT COME THROUGH.

WHETHER WE'RE TALKING DROUGHTS OR EXCEPTIONAL WINTER WEATHER LIKE WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

HOW WE PIVOTED OUR OPERATIONAL STRATEGY FOR WATER RESOURCES.

THAT RESILIENCY OF BEING ABLE TO

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RECOVER FROM WHATEVER OPERATIONAL MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN TO MAKE, SURFACE WATER IS A PART OF THAT RECOVERY STRATEGY.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WATER RESOURCES, SURFACE WATER, I WILL SAY IS YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT.

IT'S ONE OF THE TWO AVAILABLE NOW, AND HOW DO YOU USE THAT EFFICIENTLY AND HOW DO YOU MODIFY YOUR OPERATIONS TO ALLOW RECOVERY OF OTHER WATER SOURCES SUCH AS GROUNDWATER? MAKE MYRIADS OF PERFECT EXAMPLE, WE DO HAVE PROJECTS GOING ON UPPER LAKE MARY WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND THEN THAT AREA NOW OF HOW WE CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THEM BUT THEY'RE ALSO HARD AND FURTHER NEEDS THAT WE CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO LEVERAGE THAT SURFACE WATER.

OTHER SURPLUS WATER SOURCE THE INNER BASIN.

MUCH PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM KNOW MORE THAN I DO ABOUT THE FIRE AND THE FLOODS OF PIPELINE, ROADWAY AND HOW THAT IMPACTED AND HOW WE'RE TRYING TO COME OUT OF THAT TO GET THAT BACK INTO SERVICE.

BUT IN ADDITION TO THE PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE ARE OTHER NEEDS ON THE UNFUNDED LIST BOTH UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM OF THAT CATASTROPHIC FAILURE.

AS THAT COMES BACK ONLINE UNFUNDED PROJECTS WILL CONTINUE TO RISE ON HOW WE FULLY LEVERAGED THAT SURPLUS WATER AND WHEN IT IS AVAILABLE.

WHEN IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FROM EFFICIENCY AND WATER QUALITY PERSPECTIVE.

I DID MAKE A NOTE THAT ON THE WORK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PIPELINE, THEY START GRANTS TEAM IS WHEREVER SEEKING FUNDING AND WE'RE LOOKING A LITTLE BIT EXCAVATORS TO GET THAT BACK IN SERVICE BUT IT'S NOT THE END OF THE STORY.

HOW THE TREATMENT PLAN RESPONSE AND HOW WE ADD EFFICIENCY UPSTREAM OF THAT TO REALLY LEVERAGE THAT SURFACE WATER SO IT MUST BE PART OF OUR STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD.

[NOISE]

>> SHIFTING THE WATER RECLAMATION, I THINK IT WAS SHIPPED FROM RESILIENCY, TO MORE OF BUSINESS, OUR ABILITY TO GET BIGGER AND BETTER.

BY THAT I MEAN FIGURED IN CAPACITY, HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO GROW WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND BY DOING IT BETTER, HOW WE DO THINGS MORE EFFICIENT, HOW DO WE INTEGRATE THE BEST TECHNOLOGY INTO OUR SYSTEMS AND HOW DO WE INTEGRATE INNOVATION INTO THAT.

AGAIN, THAT'S ON THE WATER RECLAMATION SIDE, THIS ENHANCEMENT OF AGAIN HOW WE DO THOSE THINGS BIGGER AND BETTER.

I DIDN'T NECESSARILY TOUCH ON STORM WATER.

STORM WATER IS ON A GREAT PATH HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK DONE OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS AND THAT DOES HAVE A VERY STRATEGIC PLANNING THAT THOSE MODIFICATIONS ARE OCCURRING.

I THINK IN CONCLUSION OF OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS AGAIN, I'LL GO BACK TO WHAT CITY MANAGER CLIPPED TO TALK ABOUT IS OUR APPROACH GOING FORWARD WITH TWO CHALLENGES.

ONE IS STORM WATER AND HOW MANY GROW INTO THE DEMANDS OF THAT SERVICE AND SO AN OPERATIONAL BUDGET AND NOT THE UNFUNDED IDENTIFIES PUTTING RESOURCES ON THE GROUND TO MAKE THAT BETTER.

THAT'S ABOUT HALF OF THE STRATEGY.

THE OTHER HALF HAS TO DO WITH ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED OR PROGRAMMED PROCESSES AND THE UNFUNDED IS ON THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT SIDE THAT NET FLOATING MANAGEMENT.

THE OTHER EMPHASIS WE PUT IS A LOT OF WORK INTO OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT.

THOSE POSITIONS THAT DELIVER PROJECTS THAT HELPS BIND THE FUNDING, THAT KEEP US ON TRACK WITH THE THINGS THAT WE ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE TO DO AND THE THINGS THAT COME UP EVERY DAY, THEY GET ADDED TO THAT LIST.

IT HAS TO BE SLOTTED IN OR PARTNERED WITH EXISTING PROJECTS.

I THINK WE DO HAVE A GREAT PROJECT IN FLORIDA, I THINK THE OPERATING BUDGET THAT WE'RE REQUESTING TO SUPPORT THAT INITIATIVE AND IT PUTS A STOP TO THE LONG GAME OF HOW WE CONTINUE TO ADDRESS A TUPLE WAY AND GET TO THESE UNFUNDED THINGS ALONG THE WAY.

I'LL STOP THERE AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

>> CONSERVATORS, BIG NUMBERS.

ARE WE DOING THE WATER RATE STEADY RIGHT NOW AND SAY.

SORRY I'VE PRESUMED THE ANSWER ARE ALWAYS NUMBERS OF BEING PROGRAMMED INTO THAT.

>> NOT ALL NUMBERS WOULD BE PROGRAMMED INTO THAT.

WE ARE DOING A GREAT STRUCTURE STUDY.

THE STUDY WILL BE FOCUSED ON A TIME PERIOD OF THE STUDY.

TYPICALLY THAT'S GOING TO BE 3-5 YEARS.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY UNFUNDED, WE'RE TALKING OF 10, 20 YEARS.

AS WE GO THROUGH THEM WILL BE PORTIONS OF THE WELL-FUNDED THAT'LL BE PART OF THAT ANALYSIS? SOME LONG-TERM PROJECTIONS, BUT THE INTENSE IT'S NOT THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO MODIFY RATES TO FUND SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO USE ITERATION TO 20 YEARS ENOUGH ON THAT.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT YOUR RATE STRUCTURE, WHILE IT TOUCHES UCIPM, IN THAT SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, THAT'S AGAIN YOUR OPERATIONAL COST OF SERVICE AND HOW YOU MAINTAIN THE SERVICES YOU HAVE TO DO.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT UNFUNDED IT'S UNDER STRATEGIES FROM THE OUTSIDE FUNDING FROM BONDS, LOW INTEREST LOANS, STATE AND FEDERAL MONEY, THAT PLAY INTO THAT, THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO BUILD YOUR RESTRUCTURE AND ASSUMPTIONS BUT THAT IS PART OF THAT.

THEN I THINK ALSO LOOKING FOR THOSE PARTNERSHIPS

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ON HOW YOU DIVERSIFY YOUR FUNDING PORTFOLIO AND THOSE ARE STRATEGIES.

AGAIN, WE WORK WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, WE WORK WITH OUR FUNDING STRATEGIES ON HOW WE DO THAT.

BUT I THINK IT'S ALL PART OF A BIGGER PICTURE, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, WE ARE BEGINNING TO RESTRUCTURE THE STUDY.

THE RESEARCHER WILL FIX SENTENCED $250 MILLION OF PROJECTS.

>> NOW WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT IT FOR FIVE YEARS IN A RATE STUDY, WE MAY WANT MORE CAREFULLY PRICES MAYBE 10 YEARS.

I MEAN, START WITH BEDROOMS AND INCREASINGLY LITTLE POWER AND THEY HAVE SOME HORRENDOUS INCREASE REQUIRED 20 YEARS FROM NOW.

THE OTHER THING IS, AT SOME POINT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO UPGRADE THE QUALITY OF OUR RECLAIMED WATER BECAUSE IT'S GOING INTO OUR AQUIFER AND I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL BACAUSE THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH IT.

THAT ARE SITTING SO WE GET A TOUR AND COUNSELING IN DETROIT IN SCOTTSDALE.

THEY WILL NOT SLIP THEIR A1, RECLAIMING WATER AND TINDER ARE PREFERRED AND GETTING YOU THINKING ABOUT THAT AT SOME POINT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT.

IT IS BEING LOOKED AT YOUR COMMENT ABOUT RECLAIMED WATER AND EXPECT TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION COMING BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

AS TO THE BIGGER QUESTION ABOUT RATE STUDIES AND WHERE SOME OF THESE FUTURE UNFUNDED PROJECTS FIT IN.

I THINK WE CAN EXPECT A DISCUSSION SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD WITH STORM WATER RATE STUDY, WHICH IS THE BRAIN STRUCTURE CANNOT SHOULDER ALL OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THAT INTENDED FOR PEAK DISPLAY.

[OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]

>> ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE LOOKING AT NUMBERS THIS LARGE, THERE WILL HAVE TO BE A LOT OF STRATEGIZING AND LIKELY GOING OUTSIDE GRANTS, LOANS, APPROPRIATIONS, A NUMBER OF THINGS TO FUND A QUARTER THE WASTE WATER PLANT.

THOSE STRATEGIES WILL BE COMING TO YOU AS WELL.

THE PLANNING FOR THIS WILL BE UNDERWAY HERE SOON.

AS PART OF THAT PLANNING, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT FUNDING STRATEGIES FOR CERTAIN.

>> I'M VERY PLEASED TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT STUFF. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

[BACKGROUND]

>> AGAIN, PUBLICITY ENGINEERING HERE IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE BUTLER AVENEL "COMPLETE STREET".

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE PILOT BIKE LANES ARE NONPOLAR AND YOU'LL BE HEARING MORE ABOUT THOSE AT THE END OF MAY, I DON'T WORK STUDY.

THIS PROJECT, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AS AS UNFUNDED PROJECTS IN OUR CIP WORK, COUNCIL RETREATS AND IT WOULD BE FLOOR RAISED, BIKE LANE AND PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS THROUGH A BELT BROKE TO SANDEL ROAD AND THEN IN TO PROTECT IT INTERSECTIONS AND SAN FRANCISCO BEAVER, WE'VE ALREADY HAD A CONSULTANT TO 15 PERCENT PLANS AND ESTIMATES ONTO PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS AND WE HAVE A CONSULTANT RIGHT NOW WORKING ON 15 PERCENT OF PLANS OF ESTIMATES, THE BRICK [INAUDIBLE].

INTERNALLY, WE'RE JUST ESTIMATING COMPLETE WITH THE INTERSECTIONS AND THE BIKE LANES, BUT $10 MILLION GOOD WILDCARD IS GOING TO BE RIGHT AWAY AND HE'S BEEN ACQUISITIONS.

THIS IS PROTECTING THE INTERSECTION FROM OUR STUDY, 50 PERCENT STUDY AND THE GRAPHIC ON THE RIGHT IS WHAT THE RAISED BIKE LANE AND GASTRIN PATHWAY COULD LOOK LIKE.

THE APPROXIMATE WE TEND TO 11 FEET WIDE AND HAVE TRAVELED FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES.

SPEAKING WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND SENIOR TRANSPORTATION PLANNER YESTERDAY, WE HAD A GRANT IDENTIFIED LATER THIS SUMMER TO LOOK AT APPLYING FOR THE PROTECTIVE INTERSECTIONS.

WE ALSO HAVE RANDS WORTH LOOKING AT WHETHER THIS SPHERE FOR THE RATES BUDDY GLANDS, SO MORE TO COME ON THAT.

THE OTHER BIG ITEM THAT'S HANGING OUT THERE IN THE ORIGINAL CLAIM IS THE B LOCATION OF A LONE TREE, SWINGING IT FROM WHERE CURRENTLY COMES DOWN STRAIGHT SPECKING INTO THE RIGHT.

THERE WAS A STUDY DONE IN 2006, BOTH REALIGNMENT AND THEN AS WELL AS AN INTERCHANGE FOR THE I-40.

THIS WOULD PROVIDE A NEW GATEWAY TO THE COMMUNITY AND ENTRY INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, FLAGSTAFF.

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WHAT ELSE WOULD TAKE A LOT OF SECTOR ROUGH AND BUILD A ROAD WHICH CAN BE VERY BUSY.

IT DOES PROVIDE THAT ENHANCED REGIONAL MOBILITY, AGAIN, HELPS HER OUR LOCAL TRAFFIC CIRCULATION WITH DOUBLE.

THEN THERE WOULD ALSO BE COMPONENTS WITH THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MASTER GLAND OR BICYCLES PUTS TRAILS, THOSE TYPE OF ITEMS. THE VERY LARGE COST, $122 MILLION, THAT'S JUST THE ESTIMATE THAT WOULD NEED SOME FUTURE BOND OR TAX INITIATIVE OF THE PIECE DOWN BUT YOU SEE, I PUT JUNIPER POINT DEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE.

JUNIPER POINT IS ACTUALLY BEING DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW, PHASE 1 AND THEY'RE IN FOR PLANS FOR PHASE 2.3, AND THEY WILL ACTUALLY BE CONSTRUCTING THAT PART OF LONE TREE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE V DOT HERE IN THE NEXT PROBABLY TWO YEARS.

NOW THAT THE BIKE LANES OR LONG PERIOD REALIGNING, I ALREADY CENTERS.

AROUND WHERE THE LONE TREE REALIGNMENT? IN SO VOLUNTARY AND CURRENTLY COME STRAIGHT DOWN HERE AND THIS IS FROM THE 2006 RECORDS, SO YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE PINE CANOPY IN DEVELOPMENT OR JUNIPER POINT.

IN THE REALIGNMENT, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT THOUGHTS IN THE 2006 STUDY WHY THAT WOULD BE COMING AROUND THE SCHOOL SLAMMING DOWN OR ONE, YOU'D BE COMING STRAIGHT AND SWINGING THE.

ISN'T THE ONE TREE IN BUTLER INTERSECTION AND HAS THAT EFFECT THAT IN THE OLD PASSAGE.

I THINK THAT IT WAS DAZZLING AND ALL AFRAID OF THE ECONOMY.

FOR THIS, ON THE BCC AT THE THIRD LAYER.

I'M SURE THERE WERE THESE CONVERSATIONS.

THEY WERE THIS THING CALLED OF ALL OF THE PLAYERS COLLEGE IN AU, THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN RESEARCH CENTER, THE KINSEY SCHOOL, THEY WERE ALL INVOLVED BACK IN 2006.

WE EVER MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, WE WOULD RE-INITIATE THAT STUDY, IT'S GOT OUT WITH ALL PLAYERS AGAIN, AND WE'LL GET TO IN THE FUTURE WITH A DOUBT THE OTHER DAY.

THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT BRIDGE DECK REPLACEMENTS HERE AND MAYBE THE NEXT 5-7 YEARS.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES. I DEFER TO YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ONCE THIS NEW REALIGNMENT ON TRADE, I-4-0 TAKES PLACE WITH THE BRITISH AT THE CURRENT LONE TREE ALREADY BE DEMOLISHED OR WOULD IT JUST BE REFURBISHED? IT USES ALTERNATIVE ROUTE.

THIS IS A UNDERPASS [INAUDIBLE].

NOW THAT WHAT YOU MEAN AND WHAT THIS SECTION OF LONE TREE WOULD ACTUALLY STILL REMAIN BECAUSE YOU HAVE ACCESS AWAY COMMUNITY.

BUT IF WE SEE THE MAIN ONE.

WE MIGHT IF WE CAN FIND IN KINGSTON SUPPLY OF MONEY [INAUDIBLE] YEAH, INTERCHANGE WOULD BE RIGHT HERE UNLESS YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN DISTANCES BETWEEN THE INTERJECT.

I UNDERSTAND AND NOW AND THE QUESTION IS, SAY LIKE TWO PROJECTS, ONE WAS THE SAN FRANCISCO AND BIGGER IMPROVEMENT IN RESECTIONS FOR INTERSECTIONS, SCRAP IT AND THEN THE OTHER IS BRACING THE BIKE PATH UP TO THE LEVEL OF THE SIDEWALKS.

ARE THOSE CONNECTED THERE? COULD WE MAYBE GET PROBABLY FOR WANT AND THE OTHER ONE LATER OR DO THEY HAVE TO BE DONE? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, WE'RE TRYING TO GET FUNDING THROUGH, IT PROTECTS THE INTERSECTIONS THROUGH THOSE FIRST AND THEN ANOTHER GRANT AND DO THE LICHENS.

IF WE COULD DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, WE WOULD TRY TO RECORDING WE'RE HOPING TO DO WAS FIND BOTH OF THEM FROM REDMOND.

YOUR EFFORTS LARGELY.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, VERY GREAT.

THANK YOU AND YOUR COMMENTS SEGWAYS INTO MY QUESTION AND COMES FROM EVER SUITE WILL GO YOUR WAY UP ON THE TOPIC OF HOW DO WE FUND THIS.

THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION, WE'RE SEEING MORE CLARITY ON THESE PROJECTS AND WHAT IT MIGHT COST.

THIS IS JUST OFF THE CUFF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT OUT ON THE TABLE, WE'VE RECEIVED SOME VERY FAVORABLE NEWS THAT WEEK,

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ABOUT THREE BILLION DOLLARS COMING IN FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THAT THE BOARD RATHER TO OFFSET OR DOWNTOWN FILE MATCH.

I'M WONDERING IF FUNDING LIKE THAT COULD THEN BE REPURPOSED, THE FUNDING THAT WILL OFFSET CAN BE REPURPOSED INTO POTENTIAL GRANT MATCH FOR THESE PROJECTS.

WE GOING BACK TO THE TOP FOR 19 FUNDING.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT, I KNOW YOU'RE HEARING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES NOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO MATCH FOR GRANT FUNDING FOR THIS AND MAKE THESE PROJECTS OF VARIOUS PURPOSE. FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

[NOISE]

>> QUESTION, WHICH IS A HIGHER PRIORITY? RAISING THE BIKE LINES UP TO THE SIDE HOTEL.

I WOULD TAKE THE HIGHER PRIORITY THAN THOSE INTERSECTIONS, BUT I GUESS I SHOULD REFER TO CLASSIFICATION COMMISSION AND [INAUDIBLE] SEPARATE YOUR TEAM.

>> THEY'RE BOTH HIGH PRIORITIES, AND IT JUST DEPENDS WHAT GRANTS ARE AVAILABLE, AND WHICH PROJECTS ARE BETTER SUITED FOR WHICH GRANT IS AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME.

ONE CONCERN I HAVE CONCERNING THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION MEETING I ATTENDED TO DISCUSS THE COST TO MAINTAIN THE CANDLE STICKS AND THE CURVES AND ALL THAT.

I REMEMBER WORKING IN SOMETHING ON THE ORDER FOR $400,000 A YEAR.

IF WE COULD SOMEHOW PUT THAT PROJECT AHEAD AND WE COULD SAVE $400,000 EVERY YEAR, THAT'S A RECURRING COST.

THEN IF WE CAN GET THIS PROJECT DONE THEN THAT RECURRING COST WOULD BE REPLACED AND THAT WOULD GO AWAY.

WE DON'T HAVE A ONE CUT THE COST. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SWEET I THINK HAD A QUESTION.

>> I'M LOOKING AT THE SCREEN AND I SEE BUTLER AND SAN FRANCISCO AND I'M NOT SEEING THAT FOR BOTH PROTECTED INTERSECTION STILL.

>> THEY TOOK IT TO STARS.

>> BUT ON THE NEXT SCREEN.

>> THIS IS JUST ONE.

I JUST HAD ONLY ENOUGH ROOM FOR MANY PHOTOS.

>> CAN YOU REMIND ME HOW MUCH THE TWO PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS WILL BE.

>> MAYBE ABOUT $1 MILLION EACH BETWEEN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION SO $2 MILLION.

>> FOR ME, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD.

THAT DOESN'T RHYME TOGETHER FOR ME KNOW THIS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IS SOMETHING TANGIBLE THAT GETTING A DIFFERENT PARKING LOT OR LATER TODAY.

I'VE GOT IT MORE IF IT, SEEMS LIKE IN THE CAR.

IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO YOU AND I JUST WANT TO TALK TO STACY BEAUTY ABOUT THIS ONE.

AGAIN, WE'LL LEAVE WE'RE MISSING INFORMATION WE GAVE WASHINGTON, BUT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WITH THOSE FOLKS AND MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER SLEEK AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT INDICATED THAT MAYOR COMMITTED BIG FOCUS IS I THINK PAD SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE OVER EVEN HIGHWAY, FREEWAY MONEY.

I THINK THAT LIKE MERCHANT BECAUSE THEY SPEAK ABOUT ONE OF THE GRANTS THAT I WROTE DOWN THAT THEY SAID AND SHE SAID THAT IT JUST OPENED UP LAST WEEK.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL LOOK AT AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S VERY THICK WALL IN THIS SITUATION TO FIND THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS.

ENSURE THAT CDKS ARE REALLY.

>> SAFE GROUNDS?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> THAT WAS THAT WAS THE GRANT.

THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER WAS LOOKING IN FOR THE PROTECTIVE INTERSECTIONS.

QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR LUNCH.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND OF COURSE, OPPORTUNITIES FOR INVESTING IN THE PLANT.

AND THERE'S GONNA BE A VERY LARGE MENU.

SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS, NAVY HAS SEEN

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THIS INFORMATION BEFORE WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS CITIZENS COMMITTEE, THIS IS VERY REMINISCENT.

IT'S BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT A FEW ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.

SO THIS IS GOING TO FOCUS ON REALLY LET ME JUST BACK UP.

WHEN I MENTIONED [INAUDIBLE] THE COMPANY, CHARLIE'S, AND ANYTIME WE HAVE PRESCRIPTIVE, IT IS.

SO WHAT IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED REALLY BASED ON THAT PRESCRIPTIVE NATURE OF THE CARTILAGE.

AND TRYING TO GET FUNDING NOT ONLY INTO THE COMMUNITY BUT ALSO VENTRICLE.

SO THIS IS THE BALANCE OF COMMUNITY OFFERINGS, AS WELL AS ORGANIZATIONAL NEEDS FOCUSED ON HEALTH AND EFFICIENT HOMES, ENERGY INDEPENDENCE, SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE, BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE.

TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM ALREADY.

COMMUNITY HEALTH AND RESILIENCE.

ACCELERATORS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND HIGH EFFICIENCY HOMES, AND COMMUNITY ELECTRIC MOBILITY, AS WELL AS FOOD SYSTEMS, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING WE TALK A LOT ABOUT.

SO LET'S DIVE IN.

SO UNDER THE INEFFICIENT [INAUDIBLE] PEARLS AND YOU'VE PUT A PACKAGE TOGETHER THAT IS THE PRICE TAG OF 50-FOOT TO INCREASE HOME HEALTH AND SAFETY AS WELL AS AFFORDABILITY AND INCREASING ENERGY-EFFICIENCY.

THOUGH, SOME OF THE COUNSELING THEY WILL CALL, YOU WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET SOME COMMUNITY DIRECT FUNDING THAT WAS SPONSORED BY A HALLOWEEN.

SO WE HAVE $750,000 E.G.

THAT'S COMING INTO THE CITY THAT'S GOING TO BE TARGETED SPECIFICALLY AT OUR LEVEL NEEDS HOUSING SECTOR, THE BRISTLES, PROPERTY OWNERS AND RENTERS.

THIS IS REALLY BUILDING OFF OF THAT SAME ELEMENT OF GOING DEEP INTO A FORM TO INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY.

ON AVERAGE, THAT'S ABOUT TEN TO $15,000 AS WE SEE IT ON CONDITIONS, AND THAT WILL START IN FLAGSTAFF.

THIS ALSO HAS A BUILT-IN PACKAGE, EXPANDED AND ENERGY REBATES.

SO THEY CANCEL, MAYBE FAMILIAR THAT WE HAVE A REALLY SUCCESSFUL REBATE PROGRAM FOR WEATHER STATION AND IMPROVEMENT OF EFFICIENCY MEASURES THROUGH HEATING OF OUR DUSTY ANILINE AND SO FORTH.

WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE A LOAN GUARANTEE AND INTERESTS BIDEN PROGRAM.

THESE PROBLEMS ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AND WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD BEST PRACTICES IN OUR TOOLBOX.

AND THEN ALSO TYING INTO THIS IS A VERY CRITICAL ELEMENT AND THAT IS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT WOULD BE MENTORING PROGRAMS, APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, ALSO WORKING WITH THE CONSTRUCTION SECTOR DEVELOPERS TO ACCELERATE TRAINING FOR HIGH EFFICIENCY AND SO FORTH.

NEXT IS THE ENERGY INDEPENDENCE INITIATIVES.

THIS IS TO BRING SOLAR AND BATTERY BACKUP MICROGRID SYSTEMS AT OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE FACILITY.

SO THIS CAN BE POLICE STATIONS THAT AIRPORT.

SO THIS WOULD MAKE A MICROGRID OUT OF EACH EMERGENCY RESPONSE FACILITY THAT WE HAVE IN FLAGSTAFF.

A VERY IMPORTANT INITIATIVE TO PREPARE FOR DISRUPTION.

THE NEXT CATEGORY IS SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH PAUL AND HIS TEAM, ARE VERY CLOSELY WITH MARTIN IN DRAFTING OF THE AT&T.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE VERY CLOSE WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THE 1800S, A DATA MANAGEMENT PLAN ALIGNED WITH THE CARBON NEUTRALITY GOAL SET.

THE COUNCIL SAID THAT IN MIND THAT THIS WOULD THIS FUNDING WILL FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS.

PRIMARY BAG WEIGHS USELESS TRAILS AND PROTECTED BIKE LANES.

SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE PROJECTS AND THE TMP AND REALLY ACCELERATE WITHIN THOSE FOUR CATEGORIES? I BELIEVE. AND PAULA, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE HAD THIS NUMBER, BUT SOME ROUGH NUMBERS THAT WERE FLOATING AROUND FOR THE COST OF THE ATM MACHINE IS A LITTLE BIT OVER 200 MILLION.

THAT'S WHAT GOES INTO THAT PRICE TAG FOR THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

WHEN WE BROUGHT THAT FORWARD, THAT $600,000,000 PRICE TAG ALSO INCLUDES 200 ATM P BECAUSE IT'S A CRITICAL ELEMENT OF WRITING FORWARD.

SHIFTING OF VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED AND SO FORTH.

THE NEXT AREA, OH MY GOODNESS.

MY SLIDE. THE NEXT AREA IS COMMUNITY HEALTH AND RESILIENCE.

WE WANT TO FOCUS ON CREATING COMMUNITY RESILIENCE HUBS BY RETROFITTING EXISTING CITY FACILITIES.

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WE JUST PUT IT IN A $1 MILLION GRANT IN EPA TO START THIS INITIATIVE.

WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITHIN AND ACROSS ALL THINGS POSSIBLE THAT WE ACTUALLY GET SOME SEED MONEY FOR THE EPA TO LAUNCH THIS EFFORT.

THIS IS TO ADVANCE AIR FILTERING PUT IN THOSE MICRO-GRIDS WILL SOLAR, BATTERY STORAGE, AND THEN CREATE THESE NEIGHBORHOOD-BASED HUBS.

THESE WILL PROVIDE REFUGE IN THESE SOURCES IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

IT COULD BE A PARTICULAR ANOTHER DAY, IT'D BE A WEATHER-RELATED, COLD TEMPERATURES OR HIGH-HEAT DAY BUT YOU HAVE A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THIS INTO OUR BUILDING STUFF TO EXPAND THE HEPA PROGRAM THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE COUNCIL, I'VE MENTIONED A FEW TIMES THAT OUR HEPA AIR FILTER PROGRAM, WHICH HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL.

WE JUST CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE NEED AND THE FUNDING.

THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND PROBABLY ABOUT $45,000 IN GRANTS, FUNDS WHICH HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY FOOTING THE BILL FOR THIS INITIATIVE AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT ACTUALLY GO FURTHER AND DEEPER.

IT'S CELEBRATING IN HIGH EFFICIENCY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.

WE DID HAVE IN THE DISCUSSIONS WITHIN THE SYSTEM BOUNDARY MEETING LAST YEAR, INCENTIVES FOR NEW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

THIS IS REALLY JUST TO FOCUS ON GETTING THE ACCESSORY ADUS INTO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO CREATING AN INCENTIVE THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO FILL TOO HIGH EFFICIENCY, IF NOT ALL ELECTRIC, COMMITTING TO A AFFORDABLE RENT FOR ONE TO TWO YEARS.

THE STANDARD PIECE OF THIS IS TO PROVIDE HIGH EFFICIENCY BUILDING FANS SETS FOR RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

OUR FRIENDS DOWN IN THE CITY OF PHOENIX JUST LAUNCHED A PROGRAM VERY SIMILAR TO THIS RELATED DESIGN COMPETITION FOR PLAN SETS AND AWARDED FUNDING, AND THEY ACTUALLY NOW HOLD THE DESIGN SETS THAT CAN JUST BE DOWNLOADED FOR FREE.

THESE ARE INCENTIVES TO REALLY SPARK DEVELOPMENT OF HIGH EFFICIENCY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.

THEN THE NEXT IS A HEALTHY HOMES AND STOVES.

WE REALLY WANT TO TRY TO FOCUS ON GETTING THE NON EPA CERTIFIED STOVE OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY.

OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS USE WOOD-BURNING STOVES TO HEAT DURING THE WINTER MONTHS, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE NOT UP TO EFFICIENCY IN TERMS OF AIR QUALITY.

SO WE WANT TO LEVERAGE THIS FEDERAL FUNDING AND FEDERAL RESOURCES.

THEN COMMUNITY ELECTRIC MOBILITY.

SOME OF THE COUNCIL MAY RECALL THAT'S ROBUST CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BIKESHARE.

THREE PIONS DOWNING AND ONE THING THAT WE'RE NOTICING IN THE INDUSTRY IS THAT THIS RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH IT BY SHOWING THAT THE CITY OWNS IN ADVANCE.

WHEN THE US VOLATILE TO THE BUSINESS, THE MARKET, AND SO FORTH.

SO AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CRASH YOUR PROGRAM WHICH SUCCESSFULLY LAUNCHED AROUND THE COUNTRY.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF BEST PRACTICES.

THEN FINALLY, LAST ONE, AND I THINK THIS MIGHT BE GOOD TIMING, BUT IT IS A FOOD SYSTEM SUPPORT AND ASSIST TO LAUNCH A MULTI-PRONGED INITIATIVE TO INCREASE FOOD SECURITY AND RESILIENCE.

AND SO NOT ONLY FOCUSING ON EXPANSION OF COMMUNITY GARDENS, BUT ACTUALLY BUILDING INDOOR COMMUNITY GARDENS, INTERNAL GREENHOUSES AND REGIONAL KITCHEN.

SO NATURALLY GROW FOOD AND LEGALLY PROCESS IT AND THEN TURN AROUND AND SELL US.

IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE UP HERE IN FLAGSTAFF PREDICTABLE.

WE DON'T HAVE A REGIONAL BREAKING THE RULES TO FOCUS ON US.

THAT WOULD PROVIDE LOTS OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE TO LOCAL FARMERS.

AND AGAIN, WE WANTED TO PROVIDE A MENU THAT ALIGNS WITH MOVING THE NEEDLE OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

>> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> YEAH, A COUPLE OF THESE.

SO THE FIRST INITIATIVE, I THINK THE DEEP ENERGY RETROFIT.

>> YES.

>> SO YOU ESTIMATE $10,000 PER POUND.

IN MY MIND I'M THINKING SOLAR 23 IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OLDER COMMUNITY STRUCTURES THAT WERE BUILT IN THE LATE 40S AND SO THEY HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY REWIRED.

>> ISOMERIZATION.

>> OR WHETHER.

>> SO THIS WOULD BE WEATHER STATION ASSISTANCE LIKE CEILING APPLIANCE REPLACEMENTS IN SHOWING THAT

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WINDOWS ARE PROPERLY SEALED IF ELIGIBLE FOR REPLACEMENT, TO GO FROM A SINGLE PANE TO A TRIPLE PANE.

SO THESE WOULD BE WEATHER STATION.

>> I GOT YOU.

>> AND THEN TWO MILLION FOR EMERGENCY BACKUP GRIDS, WHICH WE HAD SOME E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE ABOUT.

MY CONCERN WITH THE CITY BUILDINGS BURNING TALL ELECTRIC BEFORE WE HAVE BACKUP GENERATORS.

>> YEAH.

>> SO I JUST THINK THAT SHOULD BE PARALLEL WITH THE CONVERSION ALL ELECTRIC BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE] ABSOLUTELY.

THEN THE COMMUNITY RESILIENCE HAS WE DID ONE OF THOSE DURING A STORM AND NOBODY CAME.

>> RIGHT? I'M NOT FAMILIAR OR ACTUALLY WE HAD A RESILIENCE.

WE HAD WHAT WAS IT CALLED WARMING?

>> THE WARMING CENTER.

>> MAYBE IT WAS JUST THEY WEREN'T USED TO IT STUFF.

SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

>> ABSOLUTELY, THERE ARE NEW COMES OUT.

THEN THE ADUS, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.

WE FORM A BIG FAN OF THAT AND I'M GLAD THAT IS STAYING ON THE FOREFRONT OF PEOPLE'S MINDS BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S JUST ADDRESSING OUR HOUSING SHORTAGE.

AND IF WE CAN MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE OR CURRENT HOMEOWNERS, TO INCREASE OUR HOUSING STOCK COMPONENT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE KEEPING IT UP VERBAL PASSING, I'M REALLY HAPPY TODAY THAT WAS ALL I HAD.

I THINK. [INAUDIBLE]

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> YEAH. WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD SOME INTERNAL MEETINGS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF FANTASTIC BEST CASE STUDIES OUT THERE THAT ALSO SIMILARLY CREATIVE THINKING THAT PAIN GOT UNDERWAY AND STAFF.

AND SO WE HAVE SOME SEED MONEY RIGHT NOW WITH 50,000 THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING BACK OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LAUNCHING THAT PILOT THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

>> HEY, THERE REALLY JUST ABOUT 10 MINUTES BEHIND, SO THAT PEOPLE COME BACK FROM LUNCH AT 12:10?

>> SO YES.

>> GREAT. IT'S ABOUT 10 MINUTES BEHIND BUT WE ARE SO CLOSE TO SCHEDULE, SO NO PROBLEM THERE.

ENJOY YOUR LUNCH AND WE'LL COME BACK AT 12:10.

>> COMMUNITY ROOM THAT'S JUST ACROSS THE WAY HERE.

>> [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE]

>> WELCOME BACK FROM LUNCH.

WE WILL GET STARTED FIRST, WE'LL HAVE SHAKEN AND GREG SAY A FEW WORDS IN A MOMENT, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO RICK AND BECKETT AND SHANNON JONES, TO START OFF THAT FIRST SECTION.

BUT SINCE WE JUST HAD LUNCH, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS AWAKE.

OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT IS EVERYONE'S FAVORITE SEASON IN FLAGSTAFF? I'M GOING TO START WITH THE FIRST ONE I THINK IS LEAST LIKELY, BUT I DON'T KNOW, AND YOU GET TO VOTE ON YOUR FAVORITE. ARE YOU READY? FAVORITE SEASON IN FLAGSTAFF STARTING WITH WINTER, RAISE YOUR HAND.

THAT'S WHAT I SUSPECTED ABOUT FIVE OF US.

NEXT ONE SPRING, RAISE YOUR HAND.

NO ONE, JUST THIS YOU HAVE ONE, IT'S SO WINDY.

NOW HERE'S THE ONE I WAS REALLY CURIOUS OF YOU TOO AND I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT.

RAISE YOUR HAND IF IT'S SUMMER THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE,10.

NOW RAISE YOUR HAND IF IT'S FALL ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10.

A TIE BETWEEN FALL AND SUMMER THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH EQUALLY AMAZING.

[BACKGROUND]

>> YOU FORGOT CONSTRUCTION.

>> I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT PART.

[LAUGHTER].

[BACKGROUND]

>> I LOVE THAT IDEA COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY CAUSE I'M A SPECIAL FAN OF RAINFALL.

[BACKGROUND]

>> YEAH.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WITHOUT FURTHER ADO AS SHANNON AND GREG TO GET US STARTED OFF.

>> THANKS, KATIE. WE JUST WANTED TO TAKE A LITTLE MOMENT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A FEW SECTION OF OUR FUTURE PLAN.

WE SPENT SOME TIMES WITH BUDGET TEAM AS WELL AS THE LEADERSHIP TEAM TALKING ABOUT HOW WE SECURE WE BRING THE NEXT YEAR'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET TO YOU.

WE DON'T SPEND AS MUCH TIME TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING FOR THE FUTURE, AND AS YOU HEARD,

[02:50:01]

DESIGNING THINGS, PLANNING FOR THEM, AND HAVING THAT TRANSPARENT COMMUNITY CONVERSATION, THOSE ALL TAKE TIME.

A BIG PART OF THIS FUTURE PLANNING CONVERSATION TODAY IS TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE ON THE HORIZON THAT WE CAN GET YOUR FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT YOU SEE IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

IT HELPS US REALLY DEDICATE OUR TIME AND RESOURCES TO THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'D FIND ARE OUR MOST IMPORTANT, AND THAT WE CAN START WITH THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AS WELL.

WE WANTED TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO TOUCH ON THAT.

I KNOW GREG HAS MORE TO ADD AND SETTLE.

LOVE TO ENGAGE YOU ON THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.

>> THANK YOU, SHANNON. SEE THIS BUDGET PROCESS, THE TRADITIONAL FORMAT WOULD BE LOOKING AHEAD TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, GOING THROUGH ALL THE PART OF MAKING SURE OF THAT.

BUT REALLY PROCESS IS SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

IT IS LOOKING AHEAD AS SHANNON NOTED AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS PARTICULAR COMPONENT IN PREVIOUS RETREATS.

THE BUDGET TEAM ADDED THIS YEAR AND IN LEADERSHIP TEAM THERE WAS A LOT OF MINDS COMING TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STRUCTURE THIS FORMAT.

BUT WE THINK IT'S PARAMOUNT TO BE LOOKING AHEAD BECAUSE THERE ARE ITEMS THAT PROJECTS THAT ARE FUNDED THAT NEVERTHELESS NEED TO BE TALKED ABOUT AND THEY FRANKLY WILL NEVER SEE FUNDING.

IT'S GETTING THINGS THAT THE QUEUE OR THE HOPPER FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION.

THE OTHER THING IS, I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHECK IN INTERNALLY.

YOU HEARD A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING TO YOU INTERNALLY, BUT ALSO WITH WHAT WE'RE HEARING.

IF WE'RE HEARING THINGS, WE ALL ARE FROM MY COMMUNITY, OUR CITIZENS THINKS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED THAT MAY NOT FALL NEATLY INTO WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PRIORITIZED OR CAPITALIZED.

YOU'RE GETTING A MIX OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND MAKE IT AN IMPORTANT EXERCISE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS EACH AND EVERY YEAR.

WE TALKED THIS MORNING ABOUT A NUMBER OF UNFUNDED PROJECTS, PROGRAMS, THINGS THAT WE WANT YOU TO BE MINDFUL OF.

COUNCIL GAVE US SOME DIRECTION ON SOME OF THOSE, OUT OF WORD WE'RE GOING TO START WITH ANY FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS FOR REVENUES.

IT'S TENDED TO BE HIGH LEVEL. YES, RECTUS.

ARE YOU READY TO TAKE OVER, GOING INTO REVENUES BUT PLANNING AND STRATEGIZING, BUT YES. ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE?

>> CLOSE THE DOOR, I THINK THEY'RE CHEATING THERE AND THEY'RE MAKING LOTS OF NOISE.

[NOISE] [LAUGHTER]

>> PLEASE STAY AFTER TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY.

[BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER]

>> THAT WAS GOOD.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS FORMAT, IN PARTICULAR? [BACKGROUND]

>> I FEEL GOOD THAT I'VE GOT COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> I THINK WE HAD A GOOD RESPOND TODAY.

[LAUGHTER].

>> WE'LL HEAR FROM GREG.

>> GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO CITY MEMBER, GREG.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

[BACKGROUND].

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT BUDGET THEN SO I CAN JUST JUMP INTO THIS.

THE SECOND IS MORE ABOUT INSTALLING GLOBAL PRODUCTS, WE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE THINGS THAT ARE NOT FLOODED.

THEN HEADS TURN SAYING, [BACKGROUND]

>> OH, I'M GOING TO COME WITH A SOLUTION FOR IT, FOR EVERYTHING.

I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME THOUGHT THROUGH A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A GENERAL THOUGHT OF THAT YOU WILL GET A SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, ENTERPRISE FUNDS, TO SEE HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS TO GIVE OPERATION NEEDS AND SO FORTH.

HOW THAT AFFECTS BOTH ON THE BLENDING OF OUR DOUBLE FUNDS AND THE COLOR OF MONEY WE HAVE.

THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES, THEY'RE NOT REALLY INTENDED TO BE YES, THAT'S WHERE WE GO WHEN WE'RE PLANNING.

JUST REALLY GET YOU OUT OF BUSINESS AND THOUGHT PROCESS THROUGH WHAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH OVER THE YEARS AND HOW WE BUILD THESE PLANS.

WE DO 10-YEARS PLANS FOR ALL OF OUR FUNDS, ALL THE COLOR OF MONEY HAVE AT LEAST A 10-YEAR PLAN, SOME BE LONGER BASED ON THEIR TAXPAYERS OR SO FORTH.

I JUST PUT A QUICK BREATH OR TOGETHER FOR EACH ONE THE FUNDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE WE STAND TODAY IN OUR FIVE-YEAR PLANS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THEN FROM FISCAL YEAR 25 AND ON, LET'S GET THE FIVE-YEAR PLANS.

HOW IS IT BALANCED OVER THE YEARS AND HOW DOES OUR USES MATCH UP TO OUR SOURCES? WE'RE GOING TO DIVE INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT.

[02:55:02]

IT'LL BE SIMILAR ON OTHER SLIDES, BUT AS YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDES, THE SOURCES IS THE GREEN LINE THAT YOU SEE HERE.

ANY OTHER RESOURCE WE HAVE TO FUND OPERATIONS? THIS IS REVENUES LIKE TAXES, CHARGES FOR SERVICES, LEASE INCOME, INTEREST INCOME, GRANTS, WHICH IS A BIG PART OF OUR RESOURCE USE.

THEN THE ORANGE LINE ON THE SLIDE IS MORE ABOUT OUR USES AND THAT WE HAVE THE OUTFLOWS OF CASH THAN THE THING WE WANT TO DELIVER IN THE FONTS.

THIS IS LIKE OUR OPERATIONAL COSTS AND BUBBLE CIP LEAD, THOSE OTHER THINGS, AS WELL AS OUR DEBT SERVICE AND BOND PAYMENTS THAT WE HAVE.

THAT'S THE FRAMEWORK THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE GENERAL FUND AND OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO KEEP THE GREEN LINE ABOVE THE ORANGE LINE.

YOU WANT TO HAVE THE RESOURCE TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER.

BUT HOW IN THE LONG RUN TO PLATO? HERE YOU SEE A DEPICTION OF THE GENERAL FUND.

INITIALLY, YOU SEE THE ORANGE IS ABOVE, BUT THAT'S A ONE TIME RESOURCE THAT WE BUILT OVER TIME.

THEN WE SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO COMMIT THESE RESOURCES OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT THEN THAT DRAWS DOWN INTO OUR PLAINTIFFS.

THEN THE REVENUE PARALLELS WITH OUR USE OF GOING OUT.

OUT IN THE 2030 IS WHERE WE'RE DOING SOME RECESSION PLANNINGS.

SO WE'RE PLANNING ABOUT WHERE OUR REVENUES MAY BE SEVEN YEARS FROM NOW.

OUR RECESSIONS ARE CYCLICAL, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BUILDING THAT IN AND TRY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN KEEP THESE LINES VERY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.

SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SEE A GAP IN THESE MIDDLE YEARS, WHICH IS REALLY GAINING ONE TIME CAPACITY TO COVER OURSELVES DURING THOSE TIMES OF ECONOMIC DOWNTURNS.

PART OF THAT IS OUR UNBALANCE RESERVES, OR IS IT JUST CAST THAT WE'VE SET ASIDE TO MAKE IT THROUGH THOSE MAYBE THE LATER YEARS? THIS IS THE BIG PICTURE OF WHERE WE STAND TODAY.

NEXT, I WANT TO HAND IT OFF TO MYSELF.

SORRY.

[LAUGHTER] I TO GO TO A DIFFERENT FONT, THIS GENERAL FUND. THE GENERAL FUND.

WE KNOW WE'VE GOT SEVERAL LEAVES WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND STILL TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET THIS YEAR AND WHAT CAPACITY BRADY OUTLINE IS OUR RESOURCES AND USES THAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THIS BUDGET CYCLE.

WE DO ASK THEM SOME COORDINATES AND SERVICE GROWTH THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT AND INVEST IN OVERTIME.

THINGS THAT MAY NOT BE BUILT IN TO OUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN OCCUR.

INVESTING IN PEOPLE IN COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS.

IT'S ALWAYS IN THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND ALL OF OUR PLANS.

WE DO HAVE, AS WE TALKED, MERITS BUDGET, WHICH MIRRORED PAPER FOREST BUDGET.

WE HAVE THAT BUILT-IN BEST RECEIVED, THOSE EXPENSES GOING UP OVER TIME, THOSE THINGS ARE BUILT IN.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANNUAL MARKET ADJUSTMENTS BUILT-INS, CHANGING THAT PAVEMENT, MOVING WITH THE COMPETITION IN THE LONG RANGE.

THAT'S ONE AREA THAT WE NEED TO SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME LOOKING AT RESOURCES FOR THAT INCREASE IN OUR HEALTH INSURANCES.

THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE STARTING TO ROLL INTO OUR PLANS.

OUR ONGOING REQUESTS THAT WE RECEIVE EACH YEAR THAT WE'RE FUNDING.

SAY, WELL, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE FUNDING THIS YEAR, COME BACK AND ASK NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S A GAP THAT WE NEED TO FILL BETWEEN THREE-AND-A-HALF TO FOUR MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE'RE FUNDING IN ONE TIME THAT SHOULD POSSIBLY BE USED ON GOING RESOURCES IN OUR PLANS.

WE'RE SEEING A SIMILAR EXPRESSED IN OTHER FUNDS THAT WE HAVE, SUCH AS SUSTAINABILITY OR SERVICE FUNDS ARE LIBRARY.

REALLY KICKING UP AGAINST THAT GAP OF UNROLLING ADDITIONAL COST, INFLATION, IN THE OPERATING COSTS.

WE DON'T HAVE A BUILT-IN INFLATION OVER THE YEARS.

THIS IS REALLY FLAT AND THEN PEOPLE ASK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDINGS YEAR-TO-YEAR.

IS THERE A WAY WE CAN BUILD OUR PLAN BETTER AND HANDLES OPERATIONAL INFLATION INCREASES IN TO THE CONTRACTIONS, SMILEYS THE SERVICES WE DELIVER.

MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

WHILE WE TRY TO TAKE ON BOARD, LET US PUT THE OPERATIONAL PATH WILL BE IF WE ADD PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, THE COURTHOUSE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD PUT THAT IN PLACE THAN WE KNEW THE OPERATION COSTS WOULD INCREASE IN THE FUTURE.

BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS DO THAT VERY WELL IN A LONG-RANGE.

WE'RE AWARE OF IT, BUT WE HAVE TO ASK FOR IT WHEN THOSE COMPONENTS ON IT. ADDITIONAL STAFFING.

WE HAVE TO PUT IT ON A NUMBER OF PLANS FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF IS REALLY ASK ANNUALLY.

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YOU'LL PROBABLY BUILD IN A GROWTH THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE KNOW EVERY YEAR, EITHER GROWTH OR PARKS OR REPLACE.

HOW DO WE GET THOSE BUILT INTO OUR FIRE? IT'S WORD THAT WE NEED TO DO AND GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

INFRASTRUCTURE RESOURCES.

THESE ARE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE TO HER THAT A LITTLE BIT AGO, THE REPAIRS FOR THE UPKEEP, AS WELL AS OUR FLEETS.

FLEETS GET MORE EXPENSIVE, WE HAVE A FLAT ALLOCATION, THEN YOU CAN START ADDRESSING THAT AS WELL AS OUR IT HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE AS WE GROW UP GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE.

THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE CONCEPTS AND A STEM OR THAT A FUTURE PLANNING AND RESOURCE NEEDS MAGELLAN PRETTY EFFECTIVE.

JUST WANTED TO STEP THROUGH.

LET'S THINK ABOUT HOW WE BUILD THOSE INTO OUR FIVE-YEAR PLANS AND HOW DOES THAT MOVE THE NEEDLES OF THE ORANGES AND GREENS IN OUR SLIDES.

THE DASH SLIDE IS TALKING ABOUT THAT PICTURE.

WHAT DOES IT CHANGE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THOSE RESOURCES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IN THIS EXAMPLE, I JUST SHOW THE IMPACT OF MOVING THE GENERAL TIME.

I'M GOING TO BUY THIS BUNDLE OF ONE TIME, THAT GAP AND ORBITAL THE DOLLARS THAT WE NEED TO START ADDRESSING, AS WELL AS ADDING PERSONNEL ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, $500 A YEAR FOR STAFFING NEW STAFF.

HOW DID WE GET THAT INTO THE PLAN? YOU CAN SEE IT REALLY DOESN'T.

THAT ORANGE THAT USES OF FUNDS UPWARD QUITE A BIT ABOVE THE GREEN LINE THAT WOULD REPRESENT.

THOSE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE.

IT HASN'T GO WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE AND MOVING FORWARD, HOW DO WE ONE, CUT OTHER EXPENDITURES TO FUND THESE THINGS OR HOW DO WE HAVE REVENUES OR RESOURCES TO CLOSE THE GAP? THAT'S THE OPERATIONAL SIDE.

THEN SO ON THE REVENUE SIDE, I JUST THREW SOME CONCEPTS TOGETHER.

THIS GUY, AND NOT REALLY TO GET INTO SPECIFIC THINGS, BUT THIS IS THE RIGHT ADD THINGS LIKE OUR USER FEATURES.

CAN WE INCREASE OUR USE OF RECHARGED BY 500,000 YEARS, STARTED ROLLING THAT THAT COUNT BELIEVES TO IMPROVE, RATE INCREASE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

BUT THAT'S AN AREA THAT WE CAN LOOK AT FOR RESEARCHERS OF GROWTH IN REVENUE THAT THEY BEAT OUR PREDICTIONS.

THAT'S WHERE WE CAN HELP CLOSE THAT GAP. PROPERTY TAX.

WE'VE GOT A GAP CAPACITY IN OUR PRIVATE PROPERTY TAX.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK WHEN YOU ROLL THAT INTO THIS MODEL AND THINK ABOUT HOW WE GET CLOSER TO MATCH ONE OF THESE LINES.

SOME OF THOSE CONCEPTS COMMAND, BUT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDLE TO GET EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT.

THEN IT BECOMES ADJUSTING THOSE USES AND WHERE IT WOULD WANT TO FALL OVER TIME.

THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE PLANNING RESOURCES.

PLANNING, IDEALLY, WE DID FOR GENERAL FUND.

THE NEXT WE'LL TALK ABOUT HIGHWAY USER REVENUE BONDS OR GAS TAX FUND.

BUT I'LL DO THE GRAPHICS PART AND SAM COME UP FOR THE TALKING POINTS.

BUT HERE WE SEE TODAY'S HIGH, WE'LL USE A RED FUND.

A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN A GENERAL FUND RUBRIC POLITICALLY MATCHED WITH THOSE USES IN RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE FOR THE HERD FUND.

GOING INTO THE OUT HERE, WE CAN SEE WE'RE ALIGN PRETTY WELL WITH ALL AT ONE TIME.

MONEY OR BUILT UP FOR A CAPITAL OPERATING CAPITAL, EQUIPMENT IS VERY EXPENSIVE, BUT THEN IT LEVELS OFF AND THE OUT HERE IS YOU CAN SEE DEBT FINANCING BUILT INTO A PLANT.

DEADLINES IS ONE OF THOSE RESOURCES TO HELP ON THE USES.

YOU CAN SEE HOW THOSE START TO BRIDGE OUT TOGETHER AND TRY TO MEET UP TO FUND THOSE CAPITAL NEEDS OF HIGHWAY USER REVENUE FUND.

THAT'S A BASELINE FISHER, I'LL LET SAM TALK ABOUT THE NEXT.

>> THANKS. SAM BECKETT SECTION DIRECTLY TO STREAMS, WHICH IS WHY I'M UP HERE TODAY FOR THE CURRENT FUNDING.

JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

HERBICIDE, 10 YEARS AGO, MR. MARSLAND CREDIT FUNDS, DUAL USAGE WAS HIGH.

A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION MOVEMENT AND NOW WE'RE SEEING IT'S STILL THERE, BUT WE'RE EVOLVED.

AS THAT HAPPENS FOR ELECTRICITY AND MORE EFFICIENT VEHICLES, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT GAS TAX DROP.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS A FEDERAL CURRENT REALITY REALLY HASN'T CHANGED IN SIGNIFICANT TYPE OF GRAPH RIGHT HERE.

FRANKLY, IT WOULD TAKE EVERYBODY ON BOARD WITH REALLY, REALLY EVALUATING THESE ROOT ITSELF.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE WE'RE STUCK OR WE'RE STUCK.

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IT'S A TOUGH FIELD, BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT AND BIG DECENT PORTION OF THE PREVIOUS, EVERYTHING ELSE IS STILL CONTINUING TO GROW.

AS WE GET INTO THE NEXT TYPE OF VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, THOSE STILL CONTEND THAT SURE.

MANY OF YOU ALL SAW YOU IN THIS WINTER, THOSE MAINTENANCE IN THOSE NEEDS AND THOSE EXPECTATIONS CONSTANTLY INCREASE ANY OF THOSE NEEDS.

HONESTLY, PROBABLY 90 PERCENT OF THOSE THAT CAME IN ARE EXCEEDING WHAT SOME OF OUR POLICY SAY THAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY ONCE MORE.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BALANCE OUT THOSE OPERATIONAL NEEDS AND WITH MAINTENANCE, IT GOES, FRANKLY, THEY'RE GOING TO GET TO A POINT HERE REAL SOON.

HONESTLY, YOU LOOK DOWN HERE THAT THEY WERE GETTING ON IT AND GET CAUGHT UP IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE RIGHT NOW.

THE CURRENT STAFFING AND FLIP THEM BEHALF.

BUT THAT GROWTH OPPORTUNITY IS NO LONGER THERE.

BUT THIS RED THEMSELVES UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT IS AND HOW DO WE MAKE THE BEST OF ALL WE HAVE.

FRANKLY, WE'RE COMING TO A CRITICAL PART OF THAT.

WE HAVE TO START DECIDING ON WHAT SERVICES ARE REALLY PRIORITIZE, ESPECIALLY FROM THAT HURT FROM MAINTENANCE SCHEMES.

BUT WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT STIMULUS SERVICES LIKE SNOW OPERATIONS, SWEEPING ARE FOUND IN MID-DECEMBER TIME WE GOT ROAD STRIPING OUT HERE FOR SAFETY, PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE.

THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT, WE WANT TO CUT BACK.

FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK WE CAN. JUST THANKS.

WE'RE TRYING TO THINK ABOUT AGAIN, I CANNOT HEAR FUEL EFFICIENT VEHICLES LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DATA THAT ARIZONA STATE HAS BEEN TRACKING PUTTING IN THERE, WE'RE ONLY SEEING A FRACTION OF THE IMPACT FROM ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

WE KNOW THE TRANSITION IS HAPPENING, NOT TAPPING INTO RACE, BUT WE PROBABLY WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN, WHICH FOR THIS FUNDING SOURCE IS GREAT.

HOWEVER, THOSE IMPACTS TO PERK UP AND THEY'RE ALREADY STARTING TO TREND IN THE HAREM OF WATCHING THOSE TRANSITS A DRASTICALLY AFFECT THAT FUNDING COMING IN.

WE'RE TRYING TO PLAN FOR THOSE IN THE OUT YEARS, BUT UNDERSTANDING IF WE EVER TO NEW ORLEANS THIS YEAR, THAT'S GREAT.

THIS BUDGET'S APPROVED WE WILL GIVE.

YOU CAN GET CREATIVE, DON'T TAKE THAT MONEY OUT OF A WHOLE DIFFERENT FILE TO HELP WITH OUR SLEDS PROGRAM.

WE HAVE NO STAFF TO SUPPORT THEM.

WE WORKED WITH ENGINEERING THAT WHEN HIS GROUP AND WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING HAPPENED FIVE YEARS, FORGOT TO STAFF MEMBERS FOR HURT.

THAT'S A REAL TOUGH PLACE TO BE AND KNOWING THAT FIVE YEARS AFTER STRUGGLING WITH.

MANY OTHER MONTHS IS THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING NO MULTI-MODAL FUNCTION OR WANT TO CALL IT FUNCTION.

BUT OPTIMIZATION WITHIN THEIR FOCUS AT MOVING VEHICLES, THAT'S QUITE ATTACKS IS FOCUSED ON FUEL, THAT MONEY IS VERY LIMITED.

WHAT CAN BE USED ON CHARGED AGAINST.

AS WE START ADDING SOME OF THESE PIECES, I FULLY SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I THINK THAT EVEN TALKING ABOUT BACK HERE BEFORE IS IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE ADDING THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT WE DO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE DOES THAT MEAN.

IT'S BELOW. WE TALKED EARLIER WHICH WAS SEPARATED BY HYPHENS.

I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE TRYING NEW THINGS.

HOWEVER, THOSE COSTS CAN NO LONGER BE ABSORBED ANY FURTHER.

THAT'S A LIMITED RESOURCE TO FIND OUT WHO'S GOING TO ACTUALLY MAINTAIN THOSE PIECES MOVING FORWARD.

WE DO HAVE TO FIGURE THOSE THINGS OUT IN THE LONG TERM HERE.

THE COST OF INFLATION FOR CONTRACTED SERVICES.

THAT'S THE OTHER PIECE. SOMETIMES IT'S EASY ENOUGH TO SAY, WELL, IT WILL CONTRACT IT UP.

SWEEPING OPERATIONS, CITY OPINIONS.

THAT'S ALL CONTRACTED SERVICE.

THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THEY HAD THE RESOURCES OUT THERE AND THEY'RE PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT HAVE THAT INTEREST IN IT MASSIVE OPERATIONS UP HERE.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT ECONOMIC INTERESTS.

THERE'S JUST NOT UPON SERVICES PERSECUTING OPERATIONS.

WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE REMOVE SOME OF THESE TO GAIN PROGRESS AND OTHERS.

I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE THAT I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH IS THAT COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS.

WHEN WE ACTUALLY SIT BACK AND LOOK AT WHILE OUR POLICIES TELL US WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING.

BASED ON THE RESOURCES WE HAVE, THOSE EXPECTATIONS FAR EXCEED.

HOW DO YOU TELL THE RESIDENT THAT? AT THIS POINT WE'RE BEHIND.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CATCH UP.

WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE BUDGET TEAM.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE IN THE LONG-TERM PROJECTIONS? HOW DO WE GET AHEAD OF IT? RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T. WE WON'T.

WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO KEEP UP WITH IT AND THEN WE'D LIKE TO SPRING A LITTLE EMERGENCY IN TO IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS YEAR, [LAUGHTER]

>> AND SEE IF WE CAN CHALLENGE OURSELVES.

[BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER]

>> BUT IT HAPPENS.

WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL THESE PIECES HERE.

I DON'T WANT TO MAKE SOUND LIKE IT'S THE NEGATIVE PIECE.

IT COULD REBOUND OUT OF THIS.

WE'RE WATCHING. WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES HAVING THIS PROBLEM.

THIS IS STATEWIDE.

THIS IS NATIONWIDE.

LAST CONFERENCE WE WENT TO, HUGE CONVERSATIONS FROM THIS BECAUSE MOST ALL OF MUNICIPALITIES OPERATE ON SOME GAS TAX TO SUPPORT THEIR OPERATIONS AND THEY'RE DWINDLING.

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WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS.

SOMETHING WILL COME OUT OF THIS. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN.

UNTIL THEN, WE'RE JUST PLANNING TO STAY UP WITH WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE CURRENT RESOURCES PROVIDED WITH AND TO KEEP THOSE IN GOOD SHAPE.

I THINK THAT'S OUR BASIS. WITH THAT I OPEN UP ANY QUESTIONS OR [INAUDIBLE].

>> THANK YOU, SAM.

WILL TALK.

>> THANK YOU SAM.

>> WE'RE TAKING THE TALKING POINTS THAT SAM JUST BROUGHT OUT TO YOU TALKING ABOUT THE GROWTH IN THE REVENUE OF A GAS TAX.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S REALLY FLAT ON THESE MODELS.

WE'RE NOT EXPECTING A LOT OF GROWTH THERE BUT WE HAVE THOSE NEEDS.

WE HAVE THE INFLATIONARY COSTS OF OPERATION COSTS AS WELL AS EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT.

HERE, I'M JUST DEMONSTRATING HOW IT USES REALLY ARE OUTPACING WHAT WE HAVE IN RESOURCES.

WE'RE JUST NOT ABLE TO FIGURE UP HOUSEKEEPER IN BOARD.

HERE WE SEE THE IMPACTS OF INFLATIONARY COSTS ABOUT 400,000 HERE.

THE GAP AND MAINTENANCE.

THE ONGOING GAP VERSUS WHAT WE'RE FUNDING ONETIME NEEDS TO BE ENHANCED, ANOTHER 500,000 THERE.

JUST AS SIMILAR TO THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

THERE IS GOING TO BE HIGHER MAINTENANCE COST, AROUND [INAUDIBLE] GOING TO BE ANOTHER QUESTION.

BUT HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE IMPACTS OF THE HARD PART.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THE EXPENDITURES NOW FAR EXCEEDING THE REVENUES.

NEXT SLIDE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

IT'S JUST A CONVERSATIONAL PIECE TALKING ABOUT THOSE REVENUES.

AS WE GO TO A MORE ELECTRIC TYPE OF PROGRAM, WHICH WE WANT TO SEE YOU IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IF EVERYBODY GETS ON BOARD OUR COMMUNITY, THAT DOES IMPACT WHERE OUR GAS TAX FUTURE REVENUES ARE.

I MADE THIS LITTLE DRASTIC TO REALLY ENHANCE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT HERE YOU CAN SEE, IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, WE START LOSING 500,000 IN THIS FIGURE.

5 PERCENT OF OUR GAS TAX BECAUSE OF THE SHIFT.

IT STARTS TO MOVE THAT FOR THE WRONG WAY INSTEAD OF TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH OUR RESOURCES.

FOLLOWING YEAR, IF WE'RE 1.5 MILLION LESS IN OUR REVENUES, 30 PERCENT.

MAYBE THREE MILLION AND THEN MAYBE FIVE MILLION OUT IN 2030.

THAT'S ONE OF OUR AUGUST NEUTRALITY.

[NOISE]

>> WHAT IF EVERYONE GETS ON BOARD AND START MAKING THAT SHIFT TO ELECTRIC.

YOU CAN SEE IN OUR GAS TAX, THIS JUST EXAMPLE INTO OUR 50 PERCENT LESS IN GAS TAX IT CREATES A BIG GAP IN DELIVERING THOSE OPERATIONAL NEEDS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING.

SOMETHING ELSE CAN HAVE A CHANGE AS FAR AS HOW GREECE GET PAID FOR, MAINTAINED, MAYBE THERE'S A GAS TAX INCREASES OR MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF WAY OF COLLECTING REVENUES FROM THOSE NON-GAS VEHICLES.

THEY USE ROWS, JUST A BUNCH OF GAS VEHICLES.

HOW DO WE LOOK AT THOSE TWO FUNDS FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR? JUST A VISUAL, WHAT WE COULD SEE IN THE FUTURE.

NEXT, IS A ENTERPRISE FUND.

HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER SERVICES AND THIS IS CALLED THE WATER SERVICE FUNDS.

THIS IS RECLAIMED WATER, STORE OF WATER.

HERE YOU CAN SEE A DEPICTION OF HOW THEY'RE FUND.

LOOKS AT RESOURCE AND USE IT OVER TIME.

YOU CAN SEE THEY'VE GOT SOME MORE UPS AND DOWNS IN THEIR PLANT.

WE GOT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IN THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE USUALLY A BIG PIECE OF WHERE YOU SEE ANNUAL FUNDING CHANGE IN.

YOU GET THERE THROUGH RESERVING MONEY ANNUALLY TO PAY FOR THOSE PRODUCTS OR DEBT FINANCE POTENTIALLY, OVER TIME.

YOU ALSO EMBRACE AND SUPPORT WATER SERVICE FUND.

HERE'S THE PICTURE WHERE IT STANDS FOR VACANT ALL HAVE.

SHANNON COME ON AND TALK ABOUT THOSE FUTURE NEEDS.

>> [INAUDIBLE]. I'M VERY SOBER.

THERE'S A BUNCH OF SCIENCE BEING ENFORCED.

A COUPLE OF THINGS INNOVATED FASTER THAN INFLATION AND THE GROWTH.

ARE WE KEEPING PACE WITH THE THINGS COST MORE TODAY THAN THEY DO YESTERDAY AND THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO COST MORE.

AND HOW ARE WE MANAGING THAT.

AGAIN, ANY BRILLIANT TECHNOLOGY INTO OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS TOWARDS THE STATE FACILITIES AS WELL AS THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD IN FUTURE.

AGAIN, ADDING THIS INNOVATION IS IT ADVANCED, [NOISE]

>> PROCESSES RIGHT INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

IT'S GREAT AS EXPECTED.

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IT'S PROGRAMMED INTO WHAT WE DO.

BUT ALSO KEEP IT IN MIND THAT THOSE THINGS HAVE A RELATIVE SHORT LIFECYCLE.

AGAIN, BECOMES AS A CHANGE.

I THINK JUST SAYING THEM SOUND LIKE MY FATHER, BUT THEY JUST TOLD ME THINGS LIKE THEY USED TO [LAUGHTER]

>> HE DROVE THE VEHICLE FOR 20 YEARS AND IT WAS STILL A GOOD VEHICLE THAT HE GAVE ONTO HIS GRANDKID.

THAT'S NOT RIGHT, BUT THE VISION RIGHT NEXT TO THE VEHICLES, SAY RHYTHMICAL BETTER THEN MORE EFFICIENT, BUT THINGS ARE STILL ELASTIC.

WE DO THOSE LIFECYCLES TO SHRINK DOWN TECHNOLOGY.

I WANT TO GIVE THEM THE LATEST.

IT'S A CONSTANT EFFORT TO MAINTAIN THAT.

AGAIN, NOT A NEGATIVE, BUT WE HAVE TO REPROGRAM OUR THINKING OF HOW WE MANAGE THAT.

WHAT DOES OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT LOOK LIKE? FOR THE NEW THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP THAT WE'RE INTEGRATING INTO OUR INNOVATION.

WE ARE GOING TO OUTLINE THAT. IN OUR REQUEST, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO FUND SIX POSITIONS.

WE TALKED ABOUT OUR MOVING INTO IMMIGRATION TO OUR STORE WATER, AND IT'S OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT.

BUNCH OF REALITY IS THAT, BUT THAT'S LITTLE CAPACITY FOR GOING FORWARD.

BUT THERE'S OTHER SECTIONS WITHIN MY DIVISION THAT I DIDN'T GET THAT TYPE OF INITIATIVE.

I WASN'T ABLE TO DO AND SO YOU PRIORITIZE.

WHERE CAN WE GET THE MOST PAY FOR OUR BUCK TODAY'S WORK AND GET THE MOST MOVEMENT.

[NOISE]

>> WITH THE UNFUNDED PROJECTS, WE KIND ALLUDED TO THIS, BUT AGAIN, THE SUCCESS OF CAPITAL NEEDED IN THESE INITIATIVES THAT ARE TAXED ON OUR RESOURCES DAILY.

THAT'S WHERE OUR MONEY IS GOING.

THAT'S WHERE OUR TIME'S GOING.

WHERE OUR STAFF IS INVESTING.

WHAT ARE THE CAUSE OF THAT? WHAT'S THE UNTEACHABLE CONSEQUENCES TO THE PROPORTIONING THOSE NEW INITIATIVES TO MATCHING THOSE CAPITAL NEEDS? I FEEL WHAT HAPPENS IS USUALLY DEFER THE MAINTENANCE.

THOSE LITTLE THINGS AGAIN PUSHED TO THE SIDE AS YOU TRY TO DEAL WITH YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH TODAY.

THAT ARE RATES NO LONGER KEEPING PACE WITH COST OF SERVICE.

AGAIN, WE HAD A BRIEF DISCUSSION EARLIER, BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER A RATE STRUCTURE AND THAT OUR RATES GET IN PACE WITH THEIR COST OF SERVICE.

WHAT DOES THAT COST OF SERVICE OR PORTION OF IT WILL BE THOSE CAPITAL PROGRAMS? LIKE IT CAN'T BE ALL OF THEM.

I THINK FURTHER INTO THE PRESENTATION, I'LL SEE SOME OF THAT EFFECT [INAUDIBLE].

>> TAKING THOSE BOTS FURTHER INTO THIS PLANNING; THE LONG-RANGE PLANNING OVER 10 YEARS, FIRST OF ALL THOSE CONCEPTS TO WORK IN A VISUAL PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL HERE.

UNDERSTANDING THOSE COMPONENTS, THERE'S THE OPERATION SIDE, THERE'S THE CIP SIDE WITHIN A LOT OF SERVICES.

AGAIN, THIS JUST BROUGHT ALL THIS HIGH LEVEL.

HERE YOU SEE THE ORANGE LINE WE NEED MORE CAPACITY TO PAY FOR THINGS LIKE ONGOING MAINTENANCE, THAT ONGOING ONETIME GAP THAT WE NEED TO ADD MORE RESOURCES.

OUR PERSONNEL RESOURCES CONTINUES TO GROW AND THEY PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE SOME GROWTH OF THE STAFF BUILD INTO THEIR LONG-RANGE PLAN.

YOU GROW WITHOUT NEAR TO BEEN THREE OR FOUR POSITIONS OVER TIME.

BUILDING THAT INTO A FUTURE PLANNING.

THE INFLATION AND LOW ON MAINTENANCE COST.

COST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

REALLY STARTED TO BRING THAT ORANGE LINE ABOVE THE GREEN THAT IS EXISTS TODAY.

WE DON'T WELCOME CAN'T APPROVE THOSE TYPES OF BUDGETS AND THOSE TYPES OF CHANGES.

HIGHLY LOOK TO MAYBE FUND THE OPERATION SIDE.

INSTEAD OF JUST A QUICK VISUAL THING, I PUT IN 5 PERCENT INCREASE FOR ALL FUNDS IN 2025.

HOW DOES THAT MOVE THAT NEEDLE UP? THEN YOU CAN SEE IT DOES DO VERY WELL ACROSS THE BOARD.

WE DO GET THE GREEN TO START ALIGNING WITH THOSE USES, THOSE OPERATIONAL DAY.

THAT'S A RATE BASED ON CONSIDERATION THAT OVERTIME WITH THE RACE STUDIES THAT WE HAVE.

WE THEN LOOK AT THE CAPITAL SIDE, DEFICIENT, THOSE LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT.

WHEN YOU PUT SOME LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS INTO A CIP THAT YOU'RE NOT SURE HOW YOUR FUNDING OF, THIS CAN HAVE SOME MAJOR IMPACTS OF WHAT RESOURCES DO YOU NEED TO BRING INTO THE WATER RESPONSE.

HERE'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF SAYING THEIR ANNUAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST 20 MILLION HIGHER THAN THE LEVEL IT IS TODAY.

WE ALL REMEMBER WE'VE GOT A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, $220 MILLION PROJECT ON THE HORIZON POTENTIALLY THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE GET THAT DELIBERATE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR SO FORTH.

WE'LL SEE THIS IN THE RE-STUDY BUT YOU GUYS SEE IT HAS A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE RESOURCES PERSON,

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WHAT THEY WANT TO SUSPEND.

IN THIS DEBT SERVICING I'VE PUT A PARTIAL DEBT SERVICE ON THIS EXAMPLE, BUT WE ISSUED 140 MILLION OF THE 200 MILLION IN DEBT.

NOW ANOTHER $11 MILLION ONGOING THAT WE'VE GOT A PAYING DEBT.

YOU CAN SEE THAT ALSO INCREASES THAT OUTLINE.

A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU'RE ADDING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO YOUR PLAN.

WE GOT TO LOOK AT THE RESOURCE.

HOW DO WE GET THERE WITH THE RESOURCES TO DELIVER SOME OF THESE BIG PROJECTS? IT MAY NOT ALL BE RATE PAYERS, WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT MAYBE MULTIPLE WAYS TO ACTUALLY GET THAT DEGREE TO THOSE PROJECTS OVER TIME.

HERE YOU CAN SEE, I STARTED AT REVENUES, ADDING THE DEBT SERVICE, ISSUE A REVENUE BOND, ABOUT $140 MILLION TO PLAY WITH THAT GAP, HAVING RANTS A $60 MILLION IN GRANTS TO HELP COVER THAT GAP OR GRASPING IT LOWERED A DESK SERVICES.

WE HOPE YOU CAN GO THAT DIRECTION FOR A LOT OF THINGS.

MAYBE THERE'S AN OUTSIDE RESOURCE, AN OUTSIDE WATER RESOURCES OR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS HAVE BEEN SQUISHED A LITTLE WATER AND WASTEWATER READY THIS DATA RESOURCE THAT HELPS US FIX THIS OR PLAN TO DELIVER THESE TYPES OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

OVER TIME WHICH YOU SEE HERE IS DISCLOSED THAT GAP AND DEBT SERVICE IS REALLY LOVED HIS DRIVING OPERATORS EVEN WITH THOSE CONSIDERATIONS.

THAT WAS JUST A PLANNING THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WE AS FINANCING STAFF AND OUR DIVISIONS THAT ARE THE OWNERS OF THESE FUNDS CURRENT TO WORK THROUGH OVER TIME AND THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE DELIVER SOME OF THESE THINGS FOR THE ORGANIZATION.

>> I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE OTHER NOTE FOR COUNCIL THAT ON THESE CERTAINLY AREN'T THE ONLY THREE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE UNITS THAT WE PUT INTO IT GOOD VARIATION.

GENERAL FUNDING OBVIOUSLY OPERATES DIFFERENT THAN TAX-BASED EARTH FUND, WHICH OBVIOUSLY GENERATES DIFFERENT THAN THAT'S AN ENTERPRISE FUND THAT IS BASED ON RATES.

ANOTHER CHIP VENDOR ITSELF, OTHER WAYS THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION, BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF DIFFERENT LINES.

THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE HOW THE FINANCING, THE FUNDING CAN LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY AS WELL.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS IS OUR ONLY NEEDS, BUT THESE CAN BE USED AS EXAMPLE.

>> QUESTIONS ON THOSE? AWAKE? [LAUGHTER]

>> NEXT WONDERING ABOUT THE CAREER QUESTION.

YES. THAT WAS THE FINANCIAL PLAN AND GIVE IT TAKES AS FAR AS OPERATIONS CAPITAL, THOSE MANY ITEMS YOU SAW IN THE UNBUNDLED THIS HOLIDAY NEED TO WORK INTO PEOPLE PLANNING.

I WAS ASKED ALL OF THEM TO MAYBE TALK ABOUT THEM TOOLBOX FOR THE ORGANIZATION.

THIS WILL BE HIGH LEVEL.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO EITHER SPECIFIC.

RATHER THAN THAT BUT TALK YOU KNOW.

THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE RESOURCE TO BRING IT, HOW DO YOU GET MONEY INTO THE CITY HAS TO DELIVER THOSE PROJECTS.

I'M GOING TO QUICKLY THROUGH A LOT OF THESE USER THINGS IS A PROMINENT FEED THAT WE HAVE WITHIN MANY OF OUR FUNDS.

THESE ARE LITERALLY ITEMS THAT ARE STATUTORY ALLOWED TO DO BY STATE REGULATIONS.

WE CAN'T GO ABOVE AND BEYOND CREATING NEW PROGRAMS THAT DON'T FIT WHAT A MUNICIPALITY SHOULD DO.

THAT'S SIMILAR WITH ALL TYPES OF REVENUES THAT WE MAY LOOK AT.

CITY MAY CHARGE USER FEES FOR SERVICES THAT WERE PROVIDED DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE WHO BENEFIT FOR.

IF YOU WANT TO GO THE COMPLEX AND ENJOY IT, YOU MAY PAY A FEE.

YOU MAY HAVE PAINFUL COSTS.

YOU ALSO SUBSIDIZED AND THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH ONE RECOVERED IN THESE AREAS.

THE BIG LOOP BENEFIT OR PAINTED INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL AS MAYBE TAXPAYERS IN GENERAL.

WHEN YOU'RE CALCULATING ERASE, IT MUST BE REASONABLE TO COVER THE COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICE.

YOU CAN'T SAY A BUILDING PERMIT COST OF THIS, BUT WE WANT TO CHARGE MUCH.

YOU REALLY HAVE TO KEEP THEM IN LINE WITH THE SERVICES THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING.

OTHERWISE YOU CAN GET A LOT TROUBLE.

I AM IN THE WORKS OF GETTING A CONSULTANT ON BOARD FOR A CITYWIDE COST RECOVERY POLICY SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE GIFTS RECOVERY ON HER MUSIC PIECE IS IT 10 PERCENT FOR ONE YEAR OR 100 PERCENT FOR ANOTHER.

THAT'S IS GOING TO WORK AS WELL AS STARTING TO PLAN HOW WE START BRINGING THESE AROUND AND COUNSEL FOR CONVERSATION, SO LOOKED FORWARD TO THAT SOON.

SOME EXAMPLES ARE ABUSER PEACE OR PLANNER REVIEWS PERMITS,

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ADMISSIONS, MODEL REYNOLDS, SPECIAL EVENTS, THESE LIBERALIZED BIGGER BRANDS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IN OUR ORGANIZATION.

NEXT IS RATES.

RATES ARE USUALLY A CONSUMPTION-BASED.

YOU WANT SO MUCH IN WATER, YOU PAY A RATE PER 1,000 GALLONS.

IT'S GENERALLY A RATE-BASED CONVERSATION OF WHAT YOU SAID.

IT TENDS TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE OF A FULL-COST RECOVERY, BIRTH OF JUST PARTICLE COPPER RECOVERY.

A LOT OF TIMES YOU'RE DIRECTLY BENEFITING, SO YOU'RE GOING TO PAY 100 PERCENT INTO THOSE COSTS.

TENDS TO BE INCLUSIVE BUT THE OPERATION, MAINTENANCE, CAPITAL, CIBM DEBT SERVICE, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WHEN YOU'RE SETTING YOUR RACE.

THE CUSTOMER CLASS THAT CAN VARY HOW MUCH THEY PAID IS BASED ON THE DEMAND THEY PUT INTO THE SYSTEM.

KOTLER CLASSES CAN VARY, BUT GENERALLY IN PAIN FROM THEIR CONSUMPTIONS.

ALL THESE ARE MOST COMMONLY USED IN OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION.

IT WAS UPSIDE DOWN, SO IT'D BE NICE TO THE AD BY.

[LAUGHTER]

>> SHARED REVENUES.

THIS IS A BIG PORTION OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING OUR GENERAL FUND AS WELL AS THE HIGHWAY USE A REVENUE FUND.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

THERE'S FORMULAS WE'RE ENFORCING SALES TAX, INCOME TAX.

THE AUTO LU WHICH VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX AND STATE COLORS IS DISTRIBUTED BACK TO CITY BASED ON FORMULAS AND SO FORTH, BUT THEY ARE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT CHANGING RACE OR CHANGING OF INCOME TAX AND BIG CONVERSATION.

THOSE COULD IMPACT US OVER.

TAXES. INCOME TOOLBOX, THAT IS THE PRIMARY PROPERTY TAXES ONE.

WE GOT A CONVERSATION WEEK OR SO AGO ABOUT OUR CAPACITY WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY TAX.

THIS IS ADOPTED BY CMS APPROVAL, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE NOTICES THAT REACTIVITY WITH THE STATE ALLOWS US TO INCREASE THE LEVEL OF REVENUE THAT WE'VE WRITTEN BY TWO PERCENT OF ANNUAL.

ONCE YOU, IF YOU DON'T USE IT, IT JUST STAYS AS TO THE NEXT YEAR.

OUR CURRENT CAPACITY THAT WE COULD HAVE A RATE INCREASE.

WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THEIR BUDGET AND WE'RE NOT PLANNING OUT THE SIDE AND 600,000 CAPACITY.

SECONDARY PROPERTY TAXES IS ANOTHER, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THESE ARE GOLDEN REQUIRED APPROVALS.

COUNCIL CAN'T JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO SET THESE VOTERS AND WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL OF RECENTLY WHEN THINGS WE'VE TAKEN.

THIS TASK AND ONLY PAY BACK THAT DEBT ON THOSE BODIES THAT VOTERS APPROVED.

WE MUST MATCH THE RATE THAT DEBT SERVICE ON ANNUAL BASIS.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE. THERE ARE LIMITS ON HOW MUCH WE CAN HAVE ALSO.

THEN WHEN VOTER APPROVED TRANSACTION, THE PRIVILEGE TAX OR SALES TAX THAT THE CITY HAS IT BUILDING BLOCKS THAT WE USE.

WE ARE SEVERAL AND PLACEMENT TALKING ABOUT THOSE IN THE ELECTION CONVERSATION, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ONE IN OUR TOOLBOX. OPTIONS.

[NOISE] DELUX IS A GOOD WAY TO FUND THINGS THAT COST A LOT AT ONE TIME AND YOU WANT TO FAIL TO TIME.

PAYERS PAY INTO THAT AFTER THE DEBT SERVICE IS IN PLACE.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEBT WE HAVE IN OUR TOOLBOX.

BUT THE KEY IS YOU CAN'T JUST ISSUED DEBT, NOT HAVE PAID BACK.

WHEN YOU ISSUE THE DEBT, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT ONGOING RESOURCE TO PAY BACK YOUR DEBT, YOUR [INAUDIBLE] BANKING.

WE HAVE REVENUE OBLIGATION DEBT.

MOST OF THOSE DON'T LEAVE VOTER APPROVAL EXCEPT FOR OUR SALES TAX.

WE WANTED BACK A DEBT WITH SALES TAX WE HAVE TOTAL OF OWNERS.

BUT OTHERWISE, THE CITY CAN ISSUE REVENUE BONDS FOR THE WATER SERVICES AND OTHER AREAS.

AS WE WANTED TO DELIVER SOME MAJOR PROJECTS.

SEVERAL USES HAVE BEEN BUSINESS, INCUBATOR, WATER, WASTEWATER, AND ROAD REPAIRS THROUGH SAFETY PROJECTS WHICH SHE DEPTH TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD.

CERTIFICATE OF PARTICIPATION IS A DEBT WE CAN DO, NO ORDER AUTHORIZATION THERE.

WE DO REQUIRE TO PLEDGE OUR ASSETS OF THE CITY THAT WE WILL MAKE OUR PAYMENTS AND COMMITMENTS AND THE RESOURCES TO MAKE THAT, THESE WERE USED FOR COURTHOUSE.

ACCORDING TO A REASON PUBLIC STATE COMPATIBLES HAVE BEEN ONE HERE.

OTHERNESS LOANS ISSUED BONDS WITH A ONE THAT WE'VE USED A LOT OVER TIME.

THESE, WE HAVE TO PAYBACK.

YOU COULD PAY THESE BACK WITH YOUR PROPERTY TAX, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THAT FUNCTION CAPITAL LEASES.

IF YOU WANT TO BUY A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND PAY FOR IT OVER TIME, OR WE CAN GO INTO THAT TYPE OF AN AGREEMENT FOR DEBT FINANCING.

SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS.

[03:30:01]

WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF THESE OVER TIME TO DOWNTOWN.

GREG HAS BEEN SAWMILL AND THE I THINK VOLUNTEER OLD SEWER IMPROVEMENT ISN'T ONE AREA THAT WE'VE USED THIS TOOL WHERE WE ASSESS THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND GET THE BENEFIT, AND THEN WE'D PAY OUR BOUNCE BACK.

BUT THESE GET THE FULL FAITH OF THE CITY TO PAY THEM BACK.

IF THEY DEFAULT WE HAVE AN OPTION TO GO THROUGH AND THE PROPERTY HOLDS, BUT IT DOES HAVE OUR FULL OF PAY.

THERE'S AN EXAMPLE IN JOHN WESLEY POWELL, WE'RE TALKING TO DEVELOPERS OUT THERE.

THIS MAY MEAN WOULD COME INTO CONSIDERATION OF THE CITIES AND THEN DELIVER THE PROJECT.

THEY MAY WANT TO ISSUE SECONDLY, THERE'S IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BONDS TO FUND THEIR PORTION ADVANCED BACKUP. MORE TO COME ON DOWN.

DEVELOPMENT FEES OR IMPACT FEES OR TOOLBOX.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THESE A LITTLE BIT OF LATELY.

MOST RECENTLY, THE PUBLIC SAFETY FOR POLICE AND FIRE WAS RENEWED OR INCREASED IN THE FALL OF 2020.

WE ARE REQUIRED TO REVISIT THESE EVERY FIVE YEARS.

AT LEAST WILL BECOME A BACTERIUM.

SITTING ASSESSED BY $75,000 TO DO A STUDY AND CONVERSATION ABOUT INTEGRATING BELLMAN AGREEMENTS WITH IMPACT THESE.

WE HAVEN'T MOVED THIS PROJECT GAP, BUT AS SOMETHING THAT MAY BECOME IMPORTANT AS WE LOOK AT THIS IN OUR TOOLBOX AND CONSIDER THIS AS A FUNDING SOURCE DEVELOPMENT PIECE AND ALSO BE USED FOR AREAS AS LIBRARIES AND PARKS, AND RECREATION FACILITIES, STREET FACILITIES, WATER, WASTEWATER, AND STORMWATER.

CAPACITY FEES.

THOSE ARE ONLY ALLOWED FOR UTILITIES.

THOSE WERE ONLY ALLOWED FOR WATERWASTE BARS AND STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW.

WE USE THIS WAY TO PAY FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, PERSON DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, BUT SIMILAR IN NATURE, BUT OPPOSITE.

GRANTS TALK A LOT THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDING AGENCIES OUT THERE THAT PROVIDE SEVERAL TYPES OF GRANTS.

WE GOT THE FEDERAL, STATE, COUNTY, LOCAL, FOUNDATIONS.

VERY ACTIVE TEAM.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT THAT SECTION OF PLANNING THE SERVICES AND STABBING YOUR SUPPORT, FEDERAL GRANT THERE ARE A MAGNITUDE OF AGENCIES AT THE FEDERAL THAT HOW HAVE THEIR OWN TYPE OF FUNDING THAT REGION RESEARCH AND LOOK FORWARD AND COMPETE FOR IT.

OUR STATES DOES HAVE SOME MATCHING PROGRAM FOR WHICH IS GREAT.

WHEN WE GO FROM A FEMINIST, SOMETIMES WE'D GET A MATCHING FUND TO HELP DELIVER PRIZE AND SO FORTH, SUCH AS [INAUDIBLE] IN THE AC SMART PROGRAM.

THESE GRAPHS COULD BE A FORMULA DRIVEN, GRANT OR AN ENTITLEMENT OR COMPETITIVE ENTITLEMENT.

IT'S LIKE OUR AIRPORTS WERE RECEIVING THIS VITAL THAT PER FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL DONE ANNUALLY.

FORMULA AND THOSE THINGS THAT COULD BE LIKE OUR CBG GRANTS.

IT'S COMPETITIVE WE'RE COMPETING COMPANY OVER CITIES [INAUDIBLE] PEOPLE OUT THERE.

GENERALLY WE LIKE TO USE GRANTS FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, NOT NECESSARILY PROPERTY COSTS.

GRANTS ARE NOT ALWAYS EXPECTED TO BE A LONG-TERM SOLUTION TO OPERATING COSTS.

JUST LAST FISCAL YEAR, IT'S A BIT CLOSER AUDIT.

WE RECEIVE 20 MILLION FEDERAL [INAUDIBLE] STATE AND LOCAL ROOTS WERE VERY ACTIVE.

THIS ONE ASIDE.

STATE FEDERAL APPROPRIATIONS.

VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT VIEW.

YOU CAN BEND UP DOING SOME WORK AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS OUT THERE.

BUT YOUR STATES AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE THEIR ANNUAL LEGISLATIVE PROCESSES THAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE, THE BUDGET PROCESS THEY DO WANT.

UNLIKE OURS, BUT THEY DO.

SOMETIMES THEY HAVE DIRECTED SPENDING, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE A TITLE SO THEY PUT IT THERE.

WE WEREN'T DOING REALLY WELL WITH OUR LOBBYISTS IN YOUR BLOOD AND HELP GET THAT ADVOCACY ON PARENTS TO BRING MONIES TO FLAGSTAFF.

THIS IS REALLY A GREAT SPOT TO GET THAT FUNDING.

IT DOESN'T COME WITH DEBT SERVICE LIKE OTHER LOANS AND SUCH WOULD BE.

PROVIDING GRANT APPLICATION SUPPORT, THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT IN RATIONAL PEOPLE.

THIS IS ANOTHER TOOLBOX ITEMS THAT WE HAVE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> IT IS HELPING US MAKE QUESTIONS.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> ANY QUESTIONS OUT OF THE [INAUDIBLE]?

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.

I THINK I AM [INAUDIBLE] QUITE TRICKY TO PRIMARY PROPERTY TAX AND I INCREASE IT.

BUT I JUST POINTED OUT THE THERE'S DECREASE IN TAX.

THE AMOUNT THE TAX IS SAYING, BUYING POWER WITH INFLATION IS DIMINISHED.

[03:35:05]

IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT WE TAX AND PROPORTION TO COMPRESSION.

OR IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE JUST TO KEEP IT THE SAME AS VALUE OF X WILL DECREASE IN THE COMMENTS.

I GOT TO BIG REASON [INAUDIBLE].

THAT'S LITTLE SOMETHING.

[LAUGHTER]

>> POLITICALLY SENSITIVE? IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S OUT THERE. I REALIZE THAT.

BUT I JUST STARTED POINTING OUT IS THAT BECAUSE REALITY IS THAT, IF WE TAKE THIS CLASS, IT'S REALLY NEAT.

>> CAN YOU GIVE IT A QUICK GRAPH CLUSTER, SAM, AND YOU'RE TOO [INAUDIBLE] A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.

I'M CURIOUS IF PROBABLY LIKE THIS NEXT 25 MINUTES WOULD SUFFICE?

>> GREAT. YES, I WILL.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO MEET THAT GOAL, HOW'S THAT SOUND?

>> YEAH. LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET THROUGH IT QUICKLY, BUT A LOT OF THIS IS INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM [INAUDIBLE] ELECTION INFORMATION BUT BALLOT MEASURES.

WE JUST THOUGHT WE'D AT LEAST APPROACH THIS TOPIC WITH COUNSEL.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC THINGS PLANNED EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THE [INAUDIBLE].

BUT IT'S TIME THAT WE START PLANNING FOR FUTURE ELECTIONS.

NOVEMBER 2024, WE'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO GO FOR CERTAIN ITEMS SUCH AS TAX INCREASES OR GO BONDS.

THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY.

WE WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THIS WHEN YOU DO THE RIGHT OUTREACH, BUILD THE RIGHT TEAMS, AND GET A SUCCESSFUL BALLOT MEASURE PASSED.

ONE OF THE MAJOR ITEMS WITH A BALLOT MEASURE IS OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IS A REQUIRED APPROVAL.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THESE BULLET POINTS.

AGAIN, IT'S VERY FAMILIAR WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, BUT GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND ARE DEBT FINANCE OPPORTUNITY THAT GETS PAID BACK WITH OUR SECONDARY PROPERTY TAX LEVY THAT WE PUT ON PROPERTY TAX OWNERS.

WE MUST RECEIVE THAT APPROVAL IN ONLY SECONDARY PROPERTY TAXES CAN ONLY BE USED TO PAY BACK GO DEBT.

THERE IS NO OTHER USE OF SECONDARY PROPERTY TAXES FOR CITIES.

LIKE I SAID THERE, CAN ONLY PAY BACK THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.

THE STATE DOES HAVE A LIMIT OF HOW MUCH VALUATIONS OF PROPERTIES CAN GO UP.

IT'S 5 PERCENT CAPPED, EVEN THOUGH PROPERTY VALUES MAY BE INCREASING FASTER THAN 5 PERCENT, WHICH I THINK WE ALL AGREE, IT'S CAPPED AT FIVE ANNUALLY.

WE CAN ONLY ASSESS THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE TO PAY THE DEBT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

WE SET THAT RATE EVERY YEAR FROM VOTERS, WE'D WANT TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS LEVEL, BUT IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS TO KEEP IT AT THAT LEVEL.

THERE'S STATUTORY LIMITS ON A COUPLE OF COMPONENTS.

WE CAN GO WITH 25 PERCENT OF OUR ASSESSED VALUATIONS.

WE CAN HAVE IN DEBT OUTSTANDING ON HERE, IT'S A BIG NUMBER.

BUT THESE TYPES OF SERVICES AND PROJECTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S A $245 MILLION IN DEBT WE COULD HAVE OUTSTANDING.

NOT RECOMMENDED, BUT IT'S A BIG NUMBER.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT 6 PERCENT, SO THEY KIND OF BROKE IT UP.

THESE ARE THE PERIODS THAT MADE HOUSING AND CLIMATE ACTION BID UNDER.

WE HAVE A $73 MILLION-ISH CAPACITY IN THIS AREA OF THIS YEAR.

BUT WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT POLICY LIMIT.

FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, WE VOTE ELECTORS, WE TRY AND MAKE A PROMISE.

WE'LL KEEP RATE WITHIN LAP RATE TO PAY BACK DEBT BASED ON THE PROJECTS THAT YOU APPROVED.

CURRENTLY, OUR POLICY IS TO STAY AT 0.800 OR BELOW OVER TIME.

THIS IS BASED ON OUR LATEST SELECTION.

USED TO BE 0.8366.

BUT WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO KEEP THAT LOWERED OVER TIME.

BASED ON THAT RATE, AND WHAT WE HAVE OUTSTANDING, WE HAVE ABOUT A TOTAL OF $40 MILLION IN CAPACITY TO GO TO THE VOTERS NEXT NOVEMBER, IF CHOSEN TO MAINTAIN THAT RATE AND DELIVER THAT AMOUNT IN CAPITAL.

AN ADDITIONAL RATE, NOT REQUIRED TO STAY THERE, BUT IF WE WANT TO DO MORE PROJECTS ABOVE AND BEYOND, A 0.1 INCREASE WOULD BE ANOTHER 17 MILLION IN RESOURCES OVER THAT TIME.

JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE VISUALLY OF WHERE OUR DEBT IS GOING TO BE STRUCTURED.

THE BLUE IS WHAT WE HAVE OUTSTANDING, THESE ARE THE OBLIGATIONS THAT WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED TO PAY BACK.

[03:40:03]

WE STARTED ISSUING A LOT OF THE BONDS THAT WERE JUST APPROVED.

I'VE BEEN PLANNING WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS, HOW DO WE FIT THAT INTO THE PROPERTY TAX RATE OVER TIME.

YOU CAN SEE IT STARTS TAKING UP THIS BOX OF RESOURCES.

THE GOAL IS THAT, OKAY, THAT WILL BE OUR REMAINING.

YOU WANT IT TO GO TO THE LARGE AND ISSUE $40 MILLION, I CAN VERY WELL KEEP THAT RATE SET.

THERE ARE REASONS THAT COULD CAUSE IT DIFFERENTLY, BUT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

IMPACT TO TAXPAYERS, OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP A STEADY RATE, SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR RATE WILL BE.

NOW THEIR ASSESSED VALUATION WILL CHANGE YEAR TO YEAR.

SO THEY MAY PAY MORE FOR A SECONDARY PROPERTY TAX.

BUT THE RATE IS UNKNOWN AND WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO KEEP IT THERE.

IT WILL INCREASE, OR DECREASE BASED ON THE VALUATION CHANGES.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ESTATE VALUATION INCREASE IS CAPPED AT 5 PERCENT.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS FOR ELECTION. IT'S A TOOLBOX.

IT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER IN THE UPCOMING YEAR.

JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON EXPENDITURE LIMITATION.

THERE WAS LITTLE QUESTION ABOUT IT AT [INAUDIBLE].

BUT WE'RE ALSO HAVING SOME LOOK AT THIS IF IT'S TIME TO GO BACK, BUT THIS IS STATE MANDATED BY THE STATE IN 1980.

IT LIMITS HOW MUCH THE CITY CAN SPEND IN A YEAR.

THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS ON FRONT OF THINGS.

I HEARD THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO WHAT'S IN THAT ALLOWABLE SPEND.

IT DOES GROW AND INCREASE OVER TIME.

THEY DO A CPA IN POPULATION ADJUSTMENTS AND WE HAVE GONE TO THE ELECTORS TO INCREASE THIS BASE, TO TAKE A PERMANENT JOB AND MAINTAINING THAT GOAL.

WE'VE DONE THAT THREE TIMES IN THE PAST.

GENERALLY, IT'S RELATED TO A NEW TAX COMING UP, FOR INCREASED RATES THAT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP UP WITH WHERE THE ROPE IS [INAUDIBLE].

IF WE EXCEED OUR EXPENDITURE LIMITATION, IT'S A BIG DEAL.

THE STATE WILL HOLD AN EQUAL AMOUNT OR SO AS WE GO OVER OUR [INAUDIBLE].

SO WE CALCULATE THIS EVERY YEAR AT YEAR-END, WE PRESENT TO THE STATES, HERE, WE DID FINE [INAUDIBLE].

BUT IT'S BEEN INCREASING IN COMPLICATIONS TO MAINTAIN IT UNDERNEATH THAT LEVEL.

AND SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS THIS YEAR.

AS WE GREW OUR CAP BALANCES SINCE COVID, WE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN DELIVERING AS MUCH PROJECTS AS THE CASH THAT HAS BEEN COMING IN.

OUR REVENUES AND THEN ROLLING BACK AND THEN PREDICTED OVER TIME.

WE'RE SEEING THAT AS WE START TO SEE THIS CASH BEING USEFUL, WE'RE GOING TO START BUMPING UP AGAINST THAT EXPENDITURE LIMITATION.

WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A LOT OF WORK.

RANDY'S ALREADY STARTED WITH IT, AND TRYING TO SEE IF IT'S NOW THE TIME TO GO TO VOTERS TO ASK FOR A PROPERTY INCREASE.

I THINK WE DO THIS [INAUDIBLE] IN THERE FOR THE SHORT TERM BUT WE'LL SEE OVER TIME.

SO OUR EXPENDITURE LIMITATION INCURRED NEXT YEAR IS 231 MILLION.

OUR BUDGET IS 406, SO YOU CAN SEE THERE IS THAT DIFFERENCE.

THOSE ARE THE EXEMPT THINGS FROM EXPENDITURE LIMITATIONS SUCH AS OUR GRANTS, DEBT-FUNDED PROJECTS.

SO THAT'S JUST A HEADS UP ON THAT AS FAR AS POTENTIAL ELECTIONS ISSUES.

AND TPT.

TPT IS A [INAUDIBLE].

WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO TAKE ANY NEWS TO THE VOTERS REGARDING THE TPT TAX AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO REACH OUT.

THESE ARE THINGS WE'LL TAKE TO THE VOTERS, THEY APPROVE AND WE PUT IN PLACE AND WE DELIVER SOME GREAT THINGS.

OUR GENERAL FUNDS SALES TAX, IT DOES EXPIRE, ONE PERCENT EXPIRES [INAUDIBLE].

OUR TRANSPORTATION TAX WAS RECENTLY RENEWED UNTIL 2041.

OUR TRANSIT TAX WAS INITIALLY IN MAY OF 2000, AS WELL AS THE TRANSPORTATION TAXES.

THEY DID EXPAND OVER TIME AND CURRENTLY, IT'S EXTENDED 2016-2030.

BUT WE HEARD THEY MAY BE CONSIDERING COMING TO ASK [INAUDIBLE] CHANGE THERE.

ROAD WORKS [INAUDIBLE] WAS APPROVED IN 2014 TO HELP WITH OUR [INAUDIBLE] INFRASTRUCTURE THAT EXPIRES 2034 AND OUR LONE TREE OVERPASS IN 2018 ROLLS OUT IN 2039.

WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO [INAUDIBLE].

>> [INAUDIBLE]. I'M SO CONFUSED AND I AM ALSO HAPPY THAT [INAUDIBLE].

[03:45:05]

>> THAT IS A LOT.

THE BED, BOARD, AND BEVERAGE TAX IS A TWO PERCENT TAX ON LODGING AND RESTAURANTS.

IT TELLS US RESTAURANTS, BARS, AND CAMPGROUNDS JUST SAY WHO IS COLLECTING THAT TAX.

THAT IS CONVENIENT FOR ME 2028, WE WANT TO GET A JUMP ON IT, SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT TO THE VOTERS IN BOTH AREAS IN 2026.

IF BY SOME CHANCE FOR TIP BAIL THAT WE BRING IT BACK AGAIN IN 2028.

I'M SORRY, 2024, 2026.

THANKS. THAT'S OUR VECTOR, REBECCA DID THAT TO ME.

2024 LATE 2026

>> GOT IT.

>> AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE THAT 11.5 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS GENERATED THROUGH THIS TAX AND IT HELPS TO FUND TOWARDS THE NEW VISITOR SERVICES, PARKS AND RECREATION, SOME OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT IS GENERAL FUNDED.

IT HELPS TO FUND BEAUTIFICATION, ARTS AND SCIENCES.

A LOT OF THE AREAS THAT ARE IN THE VITALITY DIVISION ARE FUNDED THROUGH THE BBB SOLELY.

WE HAVE NO OTHER FUNDING MECHANISM SO FOR US IT IS VERY VITAL AND THIS WOULD GET REVIEWED.

BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE DOING JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE A BBB LOGO THAT IT'S JUST VERY BOLD AND I APOLOGIZE, I FORGOT TO PUT THE BEFORE AND AFTER, BUT THIS IS THE AFTER.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BBB COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, IT EXCLUDES REBECCA'S GROUP.

LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE COMPANY ITALIAN DIVISIONS AS WELL AS OUR CREATIVE STAFF AND WE'VE DECIDED TO HAVE A NEW LOGO CREATED.

GROANS HAS GIVEN US HIS BLESSING AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO FOR PEOPLE WHEN WE START TO DO SOME MARKETING FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE LIKED BBB REMOVED.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO EASILY REMIND THEM THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE ALREADY BEING EXPANDED BY THE BBB.

WHAT WE OFTEN NOTICE IS THAT THERE IS SO MUCH A FUNDAMENTAL YOU NEED AS A COMMUNITY ISN'T EVEN REALLY REALIZE.

FOR INSTANCE, YOU MIGHT GO TO TRAIL AND YOU DON'T REALIZE THAT THE TRAIL SIGN WAS NOT ONLY THE TRAIL AROUND WHERE I'VE KEPT BECAUSE OF THE PAST RENT, BUT THEY WERE ACTUALLY SIGNED BECAUSE OF THE OCCASION.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS RECREATE THE BBB LOGO USER GUIDE, THAT WHENEVER SOMEONE ASKS FOR BBB FUNDING FOR SOMETHING WILL SAY, SURE, BUT WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT US ON WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE THOSE MONIES CAME FROM.

WE'RE NOT DOING A GOOD ENOUGH JOBS FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THE BBB BY BEING IS AND HOW IT ACTUALLY IS BEING GENERATED BY GOING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE, WE LIVE.

WE CHECK THAT OFF THE BOX, WE HAVE A LOCAL USER GOTTEN PRETTY DARN EXTENSIVE SO IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS TO USE IT AND THEY NEED US TO WALK THROUGH HOW WE WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BE REPRESENTED.

PEOPLE DO THAT AND THEN PRETTY SOON WE'RE GOING TO BE CREATING A CAMPAIGN THAT YOU'LL SEE IN PRINT, DIGITAL SOCIAL THEY WILL EXPLAIN WHY YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO RENEW THIS.

IT ALSO HELPS EVEN THE HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, BARS, AND A HINT GROUNDS THAT ACTUALLY PAY INCENTIVES ARE PAYING FOR THIS TO UNDERSTAND HOW VITAL IT IS.

I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK EXAMPLE.

IF SOMEONE COMES INTO USE A RESTAURANT OR TO EAT IN A BAR OR WHATEVER, THAT TWO PERCENT ACTUALLY WILL HELP GO AND MAINTAIN A PARK THAT YOUR CHILD MIGHT BE PLAYING BASEBALL ON.

WE'RE ASSUMING ONE DAY OFF.

WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO REALLY SHOW THAT CORRELATION TO WHAT IT DOES WHEN YOU GO OUT AND YOU DINE OUT THE DO ALL THESE THINGS AND HOW IT HELPS CONTINUE TO MAKE ALL OF THIS VERY VITAL.

WE'RE GOING TO SHOW HOW IT DOES THE MURALS, HOW IT DOES A BEAUTIFUL ART PIECE ON COURTHOUSE, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

PRETTY SOON AND I HAD A BIG NOTICE THE BEAUTIFUL FENCE THAT WE'RE DOING OVER AT THE METAL FENCE AT VIRGINIA AIRPORT IS GETTING INSTALLED, THIS MINUTE IS ALREADY LOOKING SO FABULOUS.

JUST BEEN SENDING ME PICTURES.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIDDLE SIGN WILL ACTUALLY SHOW THAT THERE'S SOMETHING SIGNIFYING THAT IT WAS PAID THROUGH BBB.

WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING MORE WORK.

I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING TODAY IS FOR YOU JUST TO HAVE THIS HEADS UP THAT HOW VITAL FOR US TO GET THIS RENEWED, THE GENERAL PUBLIC COULD NOT TAKE ON ALL OF THIS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO RUN THESE PROGRAMS, EMPLOY OUR STAFF, AND CONTINUE TO DO THESE GREAT THINGS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

ANY QUESTIONS?

[03:50:02]

>> RECHARGES TO EXTEND TAX ON BOTH CHANNELS RECORD?

>> YES, CORRECT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THE DEPARTMENT FOR RESTAURANTS BEING REDUCED TO ONE-AND-A-HALF PERCENT.

COUNCIL DISCUSSION? THAT'S MY IDEA.

>> CAN YOU REPEAT THAT.

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS KEEPING THE TWO PERCENT FOR CAMPGROUNDS, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS REDUCED FROM TWO PERCENT DOWN TO ONE AND HALF SUCCESSFUL.

I GUESS I'M TRYING TO PAY AN EXTRA TWO PERCENT OF EVERY TIME I GO AROUND.

>> IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THE NUMBER IS CRUNCHED UP BEFORE HAVING A REAL-TIME SYSTEM ABOUT THAT.

>> EXACTLY.

>> HE DOESN'T HAVE TO DO IT TODAY.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF AN EXPERT ON HOW THEY WERE DENIED THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO THROW SOMETHING OUT.

WHEN WE MARK IT FOR THE DETONATION AND WE MARK IT FOR ALL OF THE HOTELS, BREAKFAST BARS IT'S EVENLY MARKETED AND IT WOULD PROBABLY VERY COMPLICATED FOR DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF TO SAY, DO WE DO THE 5.5 LEFT FOR THE ROOF? I DON'T KNOW THAT JUST GET IT REALLY COMPLICATED BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK INTO ANY IDEA.

THE BAR IS THINGS THAT THEY ARE LESS WORTHY OF ONE AND HALF OF THE RESTAURANTS SO I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THINK THERE COULD BE A DISCUSSION.

>> IT WOULD BE HUGE CUT IN REVENUE.

>> IT WOULD BE AND QUITE HONESTLY, YOU CAN MIX IT UP.

IN THE GENERAL FUND MAKE IT UP.

>> YOU'D HAVE TO BE PLACED ON SPENDING ISSUES.

>> STAFF TO THAT IDEA.

>> I JUST WANTED TO COUNCIL PERSON VERY INTERESTED IN SIX AND DIRECT.

SEVEN COUNCIL. [OVERLAPPING] OF COURSE, VERY SERIOUS SENSE I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT.

NOW, TERESA COUNCIL FINE. WILL MOVE ON.

>> FINAL MOVE MAYOR AND THEN WE'LL WRAP BACK AROUND LATER.

>> I THINK THAT THIS WAS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT FLAGSTAFF EVER DID AND IT DOES SO MANY POSITIVE THINGS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

I'M NOT INTERESTED IN REDUCED IN ANY CATEGORY AT ALL.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU.

[OVERLAPPING] NOW THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY, I APPRECIATE IT.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> OUR DISCUSSION FROM THE COUNCIL DOESN'T AGREE AND WE MOVE ON. THAT'S FINE.

>> APPRECIATE YOUR SUGGESTION AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE ELSE COMMENTS.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE COMING BACK AS EASTERN SHOWING YOU SOME OF THE CAMPAIGN.

IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS FOR US, WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS, IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE STAYING AT HOME AND UNDERSTAND SOMETHING OR WHATEVER WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH US BECAUSE THE POINT IS TO MAKE CRYSTAL CLEAR WHERE THESE MONIES GO AND HOW THEY'RE BEING PUT BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY TO ENHANCE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> JUST ONE MORE THING BUT WE ALREADY PUT UP DESERT AND THE ICE CREAM IS MELTING SO WE DIDN'T JUST SPEAK SO THAT IF WE GOT A HEAD OF OUR TIME, WE WOULDN'T NOT HAS SOMETHING FOR THE AFTERNOON.

>> THANK YOU.

>> DOES THAT MEAN PEOPLE NEED TO GO HAVE BRUNCH?

>> JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEEN DIGGING IN.

[LAUGHTER]

>> OUR NEXT ANSWERS, CRISPER ALREADY PUBLISHED.

>> WELL I TAKE 2 SECONDS, SPEAKING OF BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU, TURN TO YOUR NEIGHBOR AND SHARE.

WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE RESTAURANT IN TOWN? JUST SHARE REAL QUICK.

WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE RESTAURANT IN TOWN? [BACKGROUND]

>> [INAUDIBLE] LET'S GO

[03:55:08]

AHEAD AND WRAP UP THAT CONVERSATION.

I WOULD LOVE FOR EVERYONE TO BE AWARE THAT IT WAS IN FACT RICK TATTER WHO HELPED US SAVE 15 MINUTES ON OUR AGENDAS IS [APPLAUSE] NEXT YEAH.

ROLLOVER, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO HERE, DID I GET THE COUNCIL? THANK YOU.

PROCEED WITH THE VERY BEST FOR LAST.

BUT IT TALKS ABOUT HERCULES PUSHING IN HERE.

EVER TALKED ABOUT THEM A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PAIN FOR FEELING WHATEVER OUT OF HOT.

OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS IT'S BEEN A LOT OF RIGHT NOW.

HERE'S HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE COMPLICATED.

MY PRESENTATION WILL BE PRETTY SHORT.

AND I'M HOPING THAT IT ENDS IN A NICE ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE BASED BUDGETING IS FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, WHERE THIS YEAR THE FOURTH YEAR ROTATION.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT A DIRECTION.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THE OTHER CHART BEAUTY COMES FROM THE DEFICITS TWO TO FOUR YEARS OR SO WITH THIS SYSTEM.

BUT WHAT WERE A FEW THINGS AND HOPING THAT MOST OF THE TIME YOU'RE TAKEN UP BY TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION RATHER THAN ME JUST TALK ISSUE HAS BEEN WHAT'S THE LAST TWO DAYS.

SO VERY SHORT HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT HERE.

WE'RE IN YEAR FOUR OF 2019.

YOU STARTED THIS LIST OF APPROVED SOME VERY ROUGH DRAFT OF OUR PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES.

AND THOSE WERE FINED 2020, WHICH IS NEGATIVE RIGHT? DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC, COUNCIL APPROVED THE SEVENTH PARTIES AND THE MEDIA OBJECTIVES BLUEJ THOSE PRIORITIES THAT WE STILL USE TODAY.

AND WE'RE AT A POINT NOW, WE'RE READY TO REVISIT THOSE WRITTEN TO CONSIDER WHETHER THOSE ARE SCHOOL PER PREFERRED MEDIUM, WHETHER THEY REFLECT THE NEEDS, THE CITY IN YOUR ORGANIZATION AND THE PEOPLE WE SERVE.

SO THIS WILL BE A RECURRING THING AS LONG AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO USE PVB.

THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GO THROUGH AND DECIDE IS THIS DOOR FOR US.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S MISSING, IT'S DOUBLE COUNTED.

THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T HAVE IS DESIGNED TO SCORE THE THING THAT WE'RE DELETING THE MONEY WE'RE SPENDING BASED ON THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

SO WE CAN EVALUATE EVERY NOW AND AGAIN AS THE NEEDS OF OUR CHANGE IN OUR FEMINIST ORGANIZATIONS.

WHETHER THOSE ARE EITHER GOODS OR SCHOOL FOR A PERIOD OF WHERE THEY USE A BITTER FIND THAT HORSEMEN LARGER OR FINDINGS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE HEADING.

HEY, FOLKS, IN THIS ONE, IT SEEMED THIS GRAPH, A LOBBYING FIRM NEEDS AND OBJECTIVES.

AND I'LL NOTE THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS PRESENTED AS ONE PIE, PIE CHART HERE WITH THE BUILDING, REALLY DID THINK THAT THIS IS TWO BECAUSE THIS HYPERBOLOID GOVERNANCE ONE IS CONSIDERED IN A DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCE, THEATER.

THESE ARE ALL FOR COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. THIS ONE IS FOR THOSE THINGS THAT ARE INTERNAL TO THE CITY.

SO EVERY PROGRAM DOES NOT SCORES ARE ALL SEVEN OF THESE PRIORITIES SCORED ON EITHER THIS ONE OR TWO REMAINING SIX.

SO REALLY YOU CAN HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WENT OUT AND HAVE A KIND OF AS TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS DEPENDING ON WHAT PROGRAM OR SOME ARGUED AGAINST.

THE OBJECTIVES BELOW EACH ONE OF THIS GRAPH THAT'S SHOWING A LITTLE BIT EXTENDED UP ON THE SCREEN HERE.

HIGH-PERFORMING GOVERNANCE, WHAT EACH OF THESE BELOW IT, AGAIN, THE THING IS THAT WE EVALUATE THOSE INTERNAL ORGANIZATIONAL FACING PRIORITIES AGAINST.

SO THERE'S REALLY TWO QUESTIONS.

THERE ARE TWO AREAS OF DIRECTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TODAY.

THE FIRST ONE IS ON THE GENERAL APPROACH YOU'D LIKE US TO TAKE OVER THIS SUMMER.

AS WE LOOK TO REFINE THESE VARIOUS OBJECTIVES.

SO THIS FIRST QUESTION HERE IS KINDA HAVE TWO OPTIONS, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT VARIED BETWEEN A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE CAN EITHER ATTEMPT TO EVENTS OR EXISTING AREAS OBJECTIVES, TAKE THAT AS A GOOD STARTING POINT TO WORK ON WHAT WE HAVE.

OR WE CAN THROW IT OUT THE WINDOW TO THE STAR TO DO SO, THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO EACH ONE.

I'M NOT HERE TO REALLY RECOGNIZE ONE TO YOU, ONE OF THE OTHER DISTANT, GIVE YOU HONEST REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THAT ENDEAVOR WOULD MEET FOR US.

[04:00:03]

SO WE'RE GOING TO BEND OUR EXISTING PRIORITIES.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT'LL BE LESS WORK FOR CITY STAFF.

IT'LL BE QUICKER. WHAT REQUIRES MUCH STAFF TIME? IF YOU THINK THAT OUR EXISTING PRIORITIES HAVE A LOT OF GOOD IN THEM, THAT WE CAN BUILD OFF OF.

THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD OPTION THAT WE CAN TAKE THE BEST PARTS OF WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

WORK OFF THOSE. WHERE IF YOU THINK THAT THERE'S ROOM FOR A LARGER IMAGINATION OR IF THERE'S BIGGER PROBLEMS YOU SEE WITH OUR OBJECTIVES, WE CAN START PRESSURE.

WE COULD DO EITHER ONE.

SO YOU WANT TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT THAT CHART HERE.

LITERS GIVES THE DISCUSSION PART, BUT THAT'S THE RATS.

IS, SHOULD WE START SCRATCH OR SHOULD WE JUST ATTEMPT TO REFINE THE SYSTEM WE HAVE? THE SECOND OPTION IS THE PROCESS WILL GO ABOUT AND IT'S MADE NO MISTAKES.

I'VE GOT COMMUNITY TO CANCEL CHANCELLOR COMMUNITY.

BOTH OF THESE WOULD END.

IT JUMPS. SO THE FIRST PART REALLY ABOUT THE SECOND RATHER THAN BE REALLY COUNTER-INTUITIVELY TO CANCEL AGAIN.

SO YOU WILL BE THE LAST STOP.

COMPANIES FALL TO APPROVING THESE AND MAKE SMALL TWEAKS THE END.

BUT THIS IS A QUESTION REALLY OF BEFORE WE DO OUR OUTREACH TO TRY TO ENGAGE THE CITIZENS, THE ORGANIZATION, TO THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS THAT EXIST, THE GARDEN COMMUNITY.

DO YOU WANT TO HAVE INCREMENTALIST? THESE ARE TWO INDEPENDENT QUESTIONS.

SO THERE'S REALLY KIND OF AGREEMENT EXCRETE ILLUSTRATED.

DEMONSTRATES BOY, WITH FOUR OPTIONS REALLY ARE.

BUT I THINK TO YOURSELF, YOU WANT TO HAVE THE FIRST SHAPE IF THE LAST NAME OR DO YOU WANT TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY FIRST? GET UP THERE, DAVID, CAN YOU TAKE IT BACK TO THE FORTUNE? ABSOLUTELY.

SOMETHING THAT I'LL POINT OUT IS THAT PRIORITIES, AT LEAST SOME VERY SIMILAR TO THESE, HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED BY THE COMMUNITIES SINCE FLAGSTAFF 2020, THE VISIONING PROCESS, AGAIN, IN JUST ABOUT EVERY PROCESS AFTER THAT.

SO I FEEL LIKE I FEEL LIKE IT COULD BE REWARDED AND MAYBE SOME OF THE BULLET POINTS CAN BE REFINED.

BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE OUR COMMUNITY HAS SAID REPEATEDLY THAT THIS IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT THEY WANT FOR THE FUTURE OF THEIR COMMUNITY.

OKAY. SORRY.

YOUR FIRST AND SO YOU KNOW OR CAN YOU GIVE ME JUST A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF NOW ON THE NEXT PAGE? HOW DID THAT LIST OF DETAILS OF EACH DEVELOPED? SURE.

SO I'LL GO TO THE NEXT PAGE HERE AND I APOLOGIZE, IT'S DIFFICULT TO READ THIS.

IT'S A LITTLE PIXELATED, SO, SORRY IF THAT'S THE CASE.

THE SEVEN PRIORITIES ACROSS THE TOP OF THE SCREEN OR BROADER.

THEY ARE GENERAL IDEAS OF WHAT YOU WANT.

THE ONES BELOW ARE SPECIFIC WAYS TO GET TO THEM.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TERM IS THAT WE HAVE NOW BEEN PROCESSED TO THE COMMUNITY.

IT WASN'T AS ROBUST AND WOULD HAVE LIKED THEM TO EVADE THE ACCOMMODATION OF HEARING FROM CONSTITUENTS, THE COMMUNITY TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL PRIORITIES FOR SORRY.

IS THAT THE ANSWER YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT? YEAH.

AND I GUESS THE PROCESS IS NEEDED TO MEET WHEN IT WAS HAPPENING DURING COVID AS I WAS TRYING TO GET UP TO SPEED. RIGHT.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE INITIAL CONVERSATION WAS A HAPPIER FULL-DAY RETRIEVAL COSTS.

AND WE BROKE OUT INTO BRUCE.

WE TALKED ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

WE DID THE WHOLE WHITEBOARD STUFF.

AND YOU CAME TOGETHER WITH THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO FIRST IDENTIFY THE PILLARS OR THE PILLARS THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON.

THEN COUNSEL AND LOOKED AT THOSE AND THEY LOOKED AT SIMILAR OBJECTIVES THAT WERE SPOKEN TO BROWSE THAT CONVERSATION FOR THAT DAY.

AND SO THEY STARTED TO BUILD.

OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AS A COUNCIL, AS A GROUP THAT BUILT THE OBJECTIVES AND HOW WE DELIVER THOSE.

THEN WE JUST REFRESHED IT WITH THE COMMUNITY IN THAT PROCESS, HAVING THEM LIVE IN THIS, THEY GAVE US SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR TWEAK A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WE BROUGHT BACK.

DOES THAT HELP WITH THE INITIAL TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY? YES.

I WAS NOT HERE FOR THAT. I CAN'T SPEAK TO LABEL THEM ALREADY OF WEB WAS BECAUSE I WAS NOT.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

THEY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. YEAH.

[04:05:02]

SO IT'S TIME FOR A COMMENT.

SO I THINK THE PILLARS, WHETHER THEY'RE REWARDED OR NOT, PRETTY GENERIC AND THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WAS BORED.

MAYBE THE DETAILS UNDER IT.

THEN GOING BACK AND HAVING, HAVING AN OPEN PUBLIC CONVERSATION.

OR THOSE FOCUSES MURKY HOW THEY'VE WANTED THEM TO OR DO THEY NOT AGREE WITH THEM OR THEY WANT TO CHANGES? THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.

OKAY.

I JUST ONE PERSON YOU STILL HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION OR COMMENT, RIGHT? JUST WONDERING, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HOLD ON.

MY COMMENT IS DON'T FIX IT IF IT AIN'T BROKE.

WHICH TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH MEANS SO SET OF BASIC CATEGORIES THEY THINK ASHLEY, I THINK THEY'RE GOOD.

SYDNEY RECENTLY WENT THROUGH ALL ALL BASICALLY AGREED TO COUNTING NUMBERS THAT YOU SPOKE.

YEAH.

NAME AREN'T REFERRING TO SOME OF THAT FINE PRINT STUFF.

BUT AT LEAST FOR THE SEVEN BASIC CATEGORIES, I THINK I'M FINE.

>> YES. I THINK THE INSTINCT TO WANT TO REVISIT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU. THANK ALL OF YOU FOR DOING THAT.

WE'RE STILL AT THE BEGINNING THIS PROCESS.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE TOO FAR REMOVED FROM THE STARTING LINE.

I CERTAINLY FEEL THAT WAY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THESE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS.

THESE IN TERMS OF WE ALL THAT WE INVENTED THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT NEEDS TO BE REINVENTED AT THIS TIME.

BUT I THINK THAT WILL CONTINUE THE APPETITE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THIS WILL INCREASE OVER TIME AS A FUNCTION OF NEWER COUNSELS COMING ON BOARD.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR MUSCLE MEMORY BUT AT THIS TIME AND CONFUSED A LITTLE PREMATURE TO DO A REINVENTION, BUT [INAUDIBLE].

>> THAT'S HELPFUL. [INAUDIBLE] SMALL GRAPHIC HERE I WANTED TO SHOW THAT IT WAS MEANT TO SHOW THAT THIS SLIDE AS WELL, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH FOR WHAT THESE PROCESSES IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

WHAT I'M HEARING SO FAR IS THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO STAY IN THIS LEFT HALF OF IT AS OPPOSED TO THE RIGHT HALF OF IT, WHICH IS GREAT CITY STAFF.

WE'RE HERE TO FULFILL THE WISHES OF THE COUNCIL, BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR SAYING YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH WORK CAN WE BE AND HOW MUCH CHANGE YOU WOULD SEE IN GREG ETHNICITY.

>> THIS IS JUST GOING TO GET MORE SUBSTANCE THAT COMICS ALREADY SHARED BY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR WAITING.

UNDER THE PREMISE THAT COMMUNITY AND KEY PRIORITIES ARE NEVER GOING TO SHIFT RADICALLY.

ABSOLUTELY SOME SIGNIFICANT HIS WORD AND WE CAN'T ENSURE EXPECT THOSE PRIORITIES TO REMAIN RELATIVELY INTACT EVENT.

I THINK THE TOPS OF THE PILLARS ARE THE PIE CHART REALLY DOESN'T CHANGE.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD TO THE CONVERSATION THOUGH, IS WE'RE FOUR YEARS INTO PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING AND DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE ON PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING.

WE HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION YESTERDAY ABOUT [NOISE] WORD WITH THE QUARTILES, BLESS YOU AGAIN.

ALL THE PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS THAT WERE THEY STACK UP WITH THIS.

THEY THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD RADICALLY OR ABRUPTLY CHANGE THE PRIORITIES RAISES ALL QUESTIONS IN MY MIND ABOUT WHAT ABOUT THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

BUDGETING FROM YEAR TO YEARS AS CONTINUALLY WE DON'T START FRESH AND HAVEN'T HAD A DEADLINE OR FINISHED LINE.

AS WE KNOW, ESPECIALLY FROM DISCUSSION OF LATE PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS SPAN MANY YEARS.

WE'RE JUST LOOKING AHEAD MANY YEARS.

I'M JUST SHARING THE OBSERVATION THAT WOULD REALLY THROW THINGS ON THEIR HEAD IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THEIR PRIORITIES AFTER HAVING MADE SO MANY DECISIONS.

>> SURE AND ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK YOU REFLECTED.

BUT THE REASON THAT THIS OTHER QUESTION THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN WANTED TO ASK WAS WE WANTED TO DO THIS IN A WAY THAT THE KNOWLEDGE THAT IT HAD BEEN A FEW GROWING PAINS WITH THIS PROCESS AND IT HAS NOT BEEN PERFECT IN ANY WAYS.

WE WANT TO DO THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE CHEAP RATIO NEEDED.

BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT WE'RE ON A GOOD PATH AND WANT TO STAY ON THAT GOOD PATH.

[04:10:02]

I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT THIS UP HERE AS AN ENDORSEMENT OF ANY OF THOSE THINGS, JUST AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMENT IF IT WAS [INAUDIBLE].

>> IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION.

>> WE'D GO BACK TO PIE CHART.

>> YES.

>> I'M JUST IN A STATUS AND THIS COULD BE VERY UNPOPULAR.

BUT THE ONLY WHEREBY HEAD ON THIS BECAUSE THESE ARE OUR EQUAL PRIORITIES. I'M STANDARD.

WE HAVE FOCUSED OUR BUDGET BASED ONLY SEVEN PRIORITIES.

THE THING THAT I HAD AN ISSUE WITH BECAUSE I FEEL THAT IT CREATES THIN AND IMBALANCES AFTER SCORING OUR PROJECTS, OUR FUNDING, DECISIONS ON HOW THEY MEET THESE PRIORITIES THAT THEN THEY BACK DOOR WRAP AROUND.

THEN YOU HAVE TO MATCH AGAIN TO SUSTAINABILITY AND THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, WHICH WAS NOT A VOTER APPROVED, I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD STAND EQUALLY WITHOUT THAT ADDED COMPONENT TO THEN WRAP AROUND IT IN MATCHED TO THAT.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT A POPULAR CONDUCT, BUT I FEEL IT'S A COUNCIL MEMBER.

I NEED TO SAY IT AND I'VE HEARD IT FROM THE COMMUNITY TO THE SEVEN PILLARS, SEVEN EQUAL PRIORITIES.

WE SHOULD BE SCORING TO THAT AND NOT GIVE SUSTAINABILITY OR CARBON NEUTRALITY AN EXTRA BOOST.

>> GREAT. WE ARE PROGRAMMED FOR SCORE BASED ON THESE [INAUDIBLE] PROGRAM IT IS.

THEN WE DO GO BACK AND ALSO CONSIDER OUR EMERGENCIES OR HOUSING EMERGENCY UNDER FUNDED.

>> IT DOESN'T SAY THAT. WHEN THE CHART THAT I SOLVED WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT OUT.

>> IT'S ON WHICH PAGE?

>> MAYBE I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE IT SHOWS UP.

THERE'S NOT A HOUSING WERE NOT SWORN INTO HOUSING WERE ONLY SCORE INTO CARBON.

WE HAVE TWO EMERGENCIES.

>> YOU'RE GETTING IT.

>> [INAUDIBLE] TALKING ABOUT HOUSING THIS WHOLE TWO DAYS AND I REALIZED THAT MOST OF IT DOESN'T FALL INTO OUR BUDGET CATEGORIES, BUT IT IS AN EQUAL AND PROBABLY A MORE UPRIGHT, MORE PRICELESS EMERGENCY IN HARMONY BEAUTY.

THE RESIDENTS HERE THAN ANYTHING ELSE AND YET.

THAT'S LEFT OUT IN THE EQUATION.

I SEE THE SHANNON, JUST SORRY.

I JUST WANTED TO HELP CLARIFY FOR COUNSELING NOTES, SCORING GETS THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, WHAT WE'RE DOING.

LET'S DO THIS BUDGET PROCESS, TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHICH OF THOSE REQUESTS SUPPORT THE ECONOMY TARGET PLAN SO THAT WE CAN TELL YOU IN THIS PROCESS THAT THIS IS HOW MANY OF OUR REQUEST ACTIONS SUPPORT THAT ENDEAVOR.

YOU DON'T WANT TO GET COUNCIL THE IMPRESSION THAT THE SCORE AGAINST THIS AND THEN HE GETS WORD AGAIN.

THE SCORING THAT WE SHOWED YOU IS JUST SO [INAUDIBLE].

>> MAKE YOU FEEL [INAUDIBLE]

>> GREAT.

>> WE ARE STILL MISSING HOUSING.

>> WE ARE. I THINK WE ARE.

>> WE ARE MISSING HOUSING, MOVABLE COMMUNITIES.

>> TWO OR THREE OF THEM, THEY TIED RIGHT INTO THAT GYM.

>> MY POINT IS THAT IS ON THERE AND SO IS OUR CARBON GOALS.

BUT THEN AFTER THAT, WE HAVE ANOTHER COMPONENT THAT GOES BACK AND SAYS, ARE ALL THESE, HOW DID THEY MATCH TO OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS AND YET CRISIS.

HOW EVEN [OVERLAPPING]

>> REGISTERED OVER MY RIGHT SHOULDER STANDS.

>> WE ALREADY HAD FOUR BUT YOU SAY, THIS IS DANCY THAT CRISIS AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT HOUSING IS A BIG DEAL AND I DON'T SEE THE EQUAL WEIGHT HERE.

IT'S THERE IN SUSTAINABILITY IS THERE.

BUT WHEN WE GO BACK AND THEN REPORT, AND THIS IS HOW IT'S ADVANCING OR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS.

THEN IT SHOULD ALSO SAY, AND THIS IS OUTS OF BOUNCING OUR HOUSING CRISIS.

EQUALLY WE HAVE TWO CRISIS.

>> CRISIS.

>> CRISIS. [LAUGHTER] THEY CAN.

>> JUST CLARIFY, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GETTING HERE IS THAT A BUDGET REQUEST COMES FORWARD FOR NEW FUNDING IN THE PROGRAM.

FURTHERMORE, PROGRAMS THAT ARE REQUESTED IN HAVE A SCORE THAT COMES OUT TO A COURT TRIAL.

THEN AFTER THAT, THERE'S ALSO ESSENTIALLY IN THAT REQUESTS WHERE WE ASKED THAT DIVISION, HOW DOES THIS REQUEST TIME FOR THE CURRENT CONTROL IN PLACE? WE DON'T HAVE A REGRESSION FOR HOUSE.

IT'S REALLY TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.

ONE OF THEM IS THE PRICE OF DECADES.

IT'S THE STARTING POINT IS IN DIFFERENT QUESTION ASKED ABOUT HIM,

[04:15:02]

ABOUT CLIMATE THAT'S NOT ASKED ABOUT PAST.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE GETTING OUT WITH THAT HIT ON THAT SAME TOPIC.

BUT I THINK THAT IS MORE OF A PROCESS BECAUSE OPPOSED TO RELATING SPECIFICALLY TO THE PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES.

WHICH IS I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO WRITE OUT.

WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THAT AS AN OBSERVER IN THE FUTURE WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD ADD A QUESTION FOR HOUSING, OR WHETHER THOSE VERTICES ARE WELL CAPTURED IN OUR PRESENT DIFFERENT SWITCHES.

THERE YOU'RE GOOD TO GO AS WE LOOK THROUGH, REEVALUATE THIS PERHAPS IS TO INCORPORATE THOSE STICKLER VERTICES HERE.

WE DID IN 2020 OR WE COULD LOOK AT CHANGING THE PROCESS.

>> ISSUES AFFECTING HOUSING FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES AND WE JUST KEEP TALKING.

[LAUGHTER] I WANTED TO SEE IF WE'RE DOING LEAPS AND BOUNDS FOR REALITY.

WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT US.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> [INAUDIBLE] WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS DIGITIZE THE ANALOG WORLD.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WE HAVE TO USE OUR JUDGMENT STAFF.

WE AS COUNCIL WE JUST HAVE TO USE OUR JUDGMENT AND KEEPS THESE THINGS IN BACK IN OUR MINDS.

IT ISN'T LIKE MAKE THIS NUMBER AND THIS EXACTLY.

AN ANALOG OR DIGITAL WORK.

>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. HERE THAT IT IS

>> I AGREE THAT THE HOUSING PLAN NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION AND SINCE WE HAVE DECLARED TWO EMERGENCIES, HOUSING SHOULD BE RIGHT UP THERE WITH SUSTAINABILITY AND IN WHATEVER WAY THAT LOOKS LIKE.

STAFF IS TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO US.

>> IF I GET THESE ARE GREAT CONVERSATIONS.

I THINK THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT IS CAPTURED.

THAT'S THE CONVERSATION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OVER THE PERIOD OF SEVERAL MONTHS WITH OUR COMMUNITY THIS SUMMER.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE AMENDING THESE OBJECTIVES HERE IN THIS ROOM TODAY.

>> SETTLE DOWN.

>> THERE'LL BE A [LAUGHTER] LOT OF INPUT, A LOT OF CONSIDERATION, AND ALL OF THESE SPECIFIC TOPICS.

I LOVE THE PASSION, I LOVE THAT. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING.

IF I COULD ASK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW IS WHICH OF THESE FOUR QUADRANTS HERE [INAUDIBLE] REPRESENTS WHAT WE WILL USE TWO.

WHEN OUR PROCESS, WHERE WE WILL HEAR ALL THESE SPECIFIC THINGS ABOUT EACH OF OUR INDIVIDUAL TOPICS.

WOULD YOU LIKE US TO.

>> COVER IT UP.

>> CERTAINLY.

WHAT WOULD THAT WOULD ENTAIL COMPLETE IF YOU WANT THE FIRST SAY IN THE MATTER, IF YOU WANT YOUR COMMENTS HEARD BEFORE WE TAKE THIS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE A CONFINED AREA OF, YOU TOLD US WHAT AREAS YOU'D LIKE US TO FOCUS ON LOOKING AT BEFORE WE GO TO THE COMMUNITY.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT I THINK THAT OUR TIMELINE WHEN NEEDED, WE WOULD TRY TO GET BACK TO YOU BEFORE YOUR BREAK THIS SUMMER AND THAT MAYBE AT A WORK SESSION, IT MAYBE A SMALLER TREATMENT ITSELF.

MAYBE IT WOULD BE A HALF-DAY OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES WHERE WE CAN HAVE THIS ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT WHICH OF THESE ISSUES SHOULD BE YOUR FIVE, WHICH ONES THEY'RE HAVING PROBLEMS, WHICH ONES ARE NOT, WHICH ONES MAYBE ARE DOUBLED AND ALL THAT STUFF.

WE DID TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND GO AND DO OUR OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WOULD BE OVER THE SUMMER AND PROBABLY OVERLAP QUITE A BIT WITH YOUR SUMMER BREAK.

THEN WE COME BACK IN THE FALL BEFORE GETTING ANYTHING UP TO HERE AND HAMMER OUT THE FINAL DETAILS AND FIGURE OUT, IS THERE A CHANGE IN THAT PARAGRAPH OR THAT TOTAL CHARTS.

WE CAN DO THAT ORDER IF YOU WANT US TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY FIRST, WE CAN BEGIN THAT PROCESS AND WE WOULD JUST SEE YOU IN THE FALL WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, THAT YOU CAN TAKE THOSE PIECES TOGETHER TO MAKE THE WHOLE LESSON.

ONE VOTE, IF YOU WILL OR ONE PERSON SAYING THEY WOULD LIKE COUNCIL FIRST AND TO KEEP OUR BASIC IDENTITY OR COMMON PLOTS ARE PREPARED.

>> FOR AGAIN, INTO THE X, Y PLANE.

I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY SAY THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT LIKE HOUSING AND CLIMATE CHANGE.

JUST NOT IT MAY NOT BE IN THE SEVEN, BUT THEY DEFINITELY SHOULD BE IN THE DROP DOWN THE COLUMNS.

AS FAR AS THIS TERM, I WILL GET INTO REASONS WHY I CAN, IF YOU WANT, IF NECESSARY, BUT I'M AN UPPER LEFT FIRST.

>> WELL LEFT, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US AND IT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION.

>> UPPER LEFT FOR US.

[04:20:04]

THAT'S BETTER AND YOUR CLIENTS ON THIS OR FOR QUESTIONS.

>> EVERY NATIONAL SERVICE.

>> IN THAT CASE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT UNREACHABLE LOOK LIKE.

WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE WAY WE'RE GOING INTO THE SUMMER SO THAT THEY HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD.

WE CAN HEAR IT MANY VOICES AND THEY'RE JUST BEING POSITIVE WAYS AS POSSIBLE SO BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING TODAY, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AS SOMETHING FOR PROBABLY MAYBE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHERE YOU WANT TO START WITH THE AREAS DO YOU THINK EVEN THE MOST WORK OR DO YOU WANT US TO FOCUS ON, OR THEN TAKE THAT GO TO THE COMMUNITY OVER JULY AND AUGUST AND THE BACK ONE PAGE HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A FEW URBAN HOUSES.

I WOULD SAY AT LEAST TWO PROBABLY WHERE THE COMMUNITY COME AND HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD IN PERSON.

WE MIGHT BE INVOLVED WHITEBOARDS AND ALL THOSE THINGS WHERE PEOPLE CAN SUBMIT CARDS OR RELATED TO PUT STICKY DOTS.

THERE'S ALL ANOTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN PERSON.

WE HAVE ONLINE FORUM THAT'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE DURATION OF IT SO PEOPLE JUST WANT TO LOG ON TO THE QUICK SURVEY, AND THEN IT'S WHAT THEY WANT.

THEY CAN DO THAT WILL MAKE SURE THAT'S AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH, JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE.

WELL HAVE THIS IN SOCIAL MEDIA.

WELL REALLY PUBLICIZE THIS SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS IT'S HAPPENING.

THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN 2020 TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AS MUCH AS YOU WANTED TO, BECAUSE IT WAS DURING THAT PANDEMIC.

WE'RE REALLY HOPING THIS YEAR THAT WE MAKE THIS TO A REALLY ROBUST CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY, CARE FOR THEM IN ALL THE DIFFERENT WEEKS THAT THEY AGREE, DISAGREE ON THINGS.

I'M SURE WE'LL PRODUCE VIDEOS.

I DON'T SEE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT AS WELL.

WE'LL TRY TO REACH OUT TO THE GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY EITHER THEY'RE ACTIVIST GROUPS, ARE VOLUNTEER GROUPS.

ALL OF THEM THEY EVER SAY AS WELL.

THEN WE'LL START WITH VISUAL FEEDBACK.

WE'LL GO TO THEM HERE ALL THE FEEDBACK THEY HAVE COME BACK TO YOU WITH A FEW OPTIONS AND PROPOSALS, AND A FEW AREAS THAT YOU CAN FIND VERY ACTIVE IN BULLET TO FINALIZE A REVISED OR MAYBE NOT THAT REVISED SERIES OF OBJECTIVES THAT WE COULD USE NEXT 2-4 YEARS, BUT WE'RE PROMOTING THIS BECOMES PART OF THE CHECKING POINT, AND BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST ONE TO THIS DIRECTION ON HOW MUCH OF A CHANGE YOU WANTED TO MAKE AND WHAT PROCESS YOU WANT US TO GO THROUGH.

THIS WAY EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS, EVERY COUNSELOR BROTHER TELLS ME THAT YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THESE.

THAT'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE PROVIDING THE BEST SERVICE AS WE CAN THE WORK.

BESIDE TO THAT EITHER THE END OF MY PRESENTATION, THE CONVERSATION, I WANT TO HAVE EITHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR ME BEFORE.

>> JUST REALLY QUICKLY, AS FAR AS OUTREACH PORTION OF THIS GOES, I WOULD JUST REALLY ENCOURAGE AS MUCH ENGAGEMENT AS POSSIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND PARTICULARLY, I'M THINKING BACK TO OUR CONVERSATION YESTERDAY AND THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT WERE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE BUDGET.

GROUPS LIKE THE SHELTER SERVICE AND THE LIVED EXPERIENCE AND ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT WE RELY ON TO BOTH SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY GOALS AND GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING TO BRING THEM INTO THIS PROCESS AS WELL, AND TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THOSE DIFFERENT GROUPS AND REALLY FOCUSING IN ON THOSE LOCALIZED NEEDS.

I THINK WHEN WE TEND TO FOCUS IN ON SOME OF THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS WITHOUT INTENDING TO, BUT I THINK SOME OF THOSE VOICES GET MISSED AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN MY MIND TO SEE US REALLY FOCUSING ON UTILIZING PARTICULAR ASSOCIATIONS AND GROUPS LIKE THEM TO GET THE WORD OUT TO THOSE COMMUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A SEAT AT THAT TABLE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU, I'M GUESSING, IT'LL BE A MORE DETAILED PLAN AND THIS WILL HAVE EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THE INPUT FOR THE BEST OR WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HIT SPECIFICALLY AS WE BEGIN THAT PROCESS.

WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT PUT THAT AS WELL.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> LET'S THINK ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT INCLUDE OUR YOUTH.

THERE LOTS OF SUMMER PROGRAMS THAT WILL BE HAPPENING THIS SUMMER.

BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, REC CENTERS.

IT MIGHT BE REALLY FUN TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, WE'LL BE SUPRISED.

>> [OVERLAPPING] EVERYDAY IDEAS.

WITH THAT, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

[04:25:03]

I'M SURE YOU'RE ALREADY SCHEDULED, BUT THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

>> [BACKGROUND] SUBMITTED BY ERIC. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANK YOU FOR THE PERFECT TIMING, EVERYONE.

CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL MUST BE INCLUDED.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THEN AUSTIN STAFF, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ERIC [INAUDIBLE] I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY OF NORTHERN ARIZONA AND I'M HERE SIMPLY TO SAY THANK YOU.

THANKS TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE ENTIRE HOUSING STAFF FOR FINDING A SOLUTION TO PROVIDE FUNDS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THAT NEEDED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCENTIVE.

THESE DOLLARS ARE CRUCIAL MAKE KEEPING THE COST OF THE HOMES OBTAINABLE FOR OUR WORKING POOR FAMILIES HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

I WOULD EMPHASIZE THE NEED FOR ONGOING FUNDING TO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM IS CRUCIAL AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD STARTER HOME NEIGHBORHOODS INTO THE FUTURE.

THANKS EVERYONE IN THE ROOM TODAY FOR EXPRESSING THEIR PASSIONS AND FINANCIAL RESOURCES NEEDED IN MAKING FLAGSTAFF BETTER COMMUNITY TO LIVE, WORK, AND RECREATE.

WE CAN ALWAYS PROVIDE BETTER SERVICES TO OUR FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS AND SHOULD ALWAYS STRIVE TO DO SO.

FINALLY, THANKS TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, FOR CONTINUING AND MAKE THE COMMITMENT TOWARDS WORKFORCE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

OUR HOUSING PROBLEMS CONTINUE TO GET WORSE BY THE DAY SO WE MUST ALL ACT NOW IN PARTNERSHIPS THAT HAVE A SHARED OUTCOME.

FOR US TO THEN THAT HOUSING EMERGENCY, WE MUST PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES TO THRIVE AND GROW.

WITH ALL THE GRATITUDE IN THE WORLD, IT'S TIME FOR US TOGETHER TO BUILD SOLUTIONS FOR OUR HARDWARE FLAGSTAFF. THANKS, EVERYBODY.

>> [BACKGROUND] THANK YOU.

>> [LAUGHTER] I DON'T HAVE IN THE CLASS.

I DON'T SEE ANY ONLINE.

JUST CHECK REAL QUICK, DID I MISS ANYBODY IN THE ROOM? AT THIS TIME IT'S OUR FICO BREAK WHERE WE BREAK TO CONNECT AND NOT TALK BUSINESS FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES.

I WOULD SUGGEST WE COME BACK AT 02:05 FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES. ENJOY THE BREAK.

ENJOY YOUR FICO. [BACKGROUND] WELCOME BACK FROM THE BREAK.

SO THE REMAINING OF OUR AGENDA IS THAT CITY MANAGER A. CLIFTON WILL BE RUNNING US THROUGH THE COUNCIL PARKING LOT DISCUSSION AND REVIEW FROM A COUNCIL DIRECTION.

THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE MEETING FOR TODAY FOLLOWED BY AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR COUNCILS.

TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AWAKE AND LIVELY, WE HAVE ONE LEFT THAT SETTLES IT FOLKS FOR THIS [BACKGROUND] BUDGET RETREAT.

THIS ONE I'M REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT.

I HAVE A VERY STRONG OPINION ABOUT THIS ONE, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO STAY NEUTRAL.

ARE YOU READY? IS A HOT DOG IN A BONE A SANDWICH? IF YOU BELIEVE THAT A HOT DOG IN A BONE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A SANDWICH, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND FOR YES.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE A HOT DOG IN A BONE IS A SANDWICH.

[LAUGHTER] IT LOOKS LIKE THAT SETTLES IT ACCORDING TO THIS RULE, [LAUGHTER] IT IS NOT SANDWICH.

>> IF IT'S NOT A SANDWICH, WHAT IS IT?

>> THAT IS THE OTHER BIG QUESTION COUNSELOR [INAUDIBLE].

IF IT'S NOT A SANDWICH, WHAT IS IT? A HOT DOG [LAUGHTER].

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PLAYING.

WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, CITY MANAGER [INAUDIBLE] TO GET US STARTED.

>> IT'S A SANDWICH. I'M JUST KICKING THIS OFF.

THIS IS ACTUALLY COUNCIL'S PART OF THE AGENDA WHERE YOU GET TO SHARE WITH US YOUR IDEAS,

[04:30:03]

COMMENTS, ADD-ONS, THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT, THAT NEED TO BE TOUCHED ON, OR PERHAPS THINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED ON AT ALL.

WE'VE COVERED A LOT OF GROUNDS OVER THE LESS 30 MINUTES.

I'VE JUST GOING BACK TO MY OWN NOTES AND NOT RECAPPING STUFF HERE, BUT, GREAT UPDATE ON REVENUES, PROTECTIONS, AND THEORIES GOING INTO THAT WHICH LED TO A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE'RE HAVING WITH OUR EMPLOYMENT, BOTH IN RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT.

A NICE DISCUSSION ABOUT ANY BENEFITS THAT LEAD TO VERY APPRECIATED DISCUSSION ABOUT INVESTING IN OUR EMPLOYEES.

REALLY WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR YOUR GREAT SUPPORT IN ALL OF THAT.

THAT WAS A GOOD DIALOGUE.

WE CHATTED THEN ABOUT SOME MARKET ADJUSTMENTS AS WELL.

THE PAY FOR PERFORMANCE WHERE YOU HEARD FROM MARGARET LAURIE'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THEN CHATTED ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND REQUEST, THE ONE TIME VERSUS THE ONGOING.

FROM THAT WE SEGWAYED TO A LOT OF THE PRIORITY BASIC QUESTIONING DISCUSSION, THE OPERATIVE DISCUSSION LOOKING AT THE QUARTER FINALS AND HOW OUR EXPENDITURES WERE RANKING.

THEN TAKING IT DOWN TO A GREATER DEPTH AS TO THE PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS AND HOW THEY SCORE WITHIN OUR KEY COMMUNITY PRIORITIES. THAT WAS VERY GOOD.

WE CHATTED THEN ABOUT COMMUNITY SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS.

CHECKING SOME COUNCIL DIRECTION ON A COUPLE OF THOSE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'VE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR WHERE YOUR PREFERENCE IS AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

A BIG DISCUSSION THEN ABOUT THIS SEGWAYED INTO TODAY'S DISCUSSION BUT WE CHATTED A LOT ABOUT CARBON NEUTRALITY, AND WHERE ALL THE EXPENDITURES COULD ADVANCING OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOAL.

TO THE DISCUSSION THIS MORNING, A CONTINUATION OF THAT.

TODAY WE FOCUSED A LOT ON UNFUNDED PROJECTS, LOOKING AHEAD THINGS THAT ARE HERE ON OUR DOORSTEP OR THINGS THAT MIGHT BE WAYS OUT THERE ON THE HORIZON BUT A LOT OF UNFUNDED THINGS.

I POINTED OUT TO COUNCIL IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT IS NOT BUDGETED, BUT WHAT IS NEVERTHELESS A PRIORITY FOR SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE HAD SOME NICE PRESENTATIONS THERE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT ON THE JOB ON TOGGLE SITES.

STAY TUNED ON SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES IN LINK.

ALONG WITH THAT, WE SEGWAYED INTO LONG-TERM REVENUE PLANNING, AND WHAT POSSIBILITIES ARE OUT THERE WATCHING THROUGH THE REVENUE TOOLBOX, AND I THINK THAT WAS GOOD.

WE HAVE JUST FINISHED WITH A RETURN OF PRIORITY-BASED BUDGETING, BRINGING IT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY PRIORITIES, AND A PROCESS THAT LIES AHEAD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.

NOW, ALL OF THAT IS WHAT TRANSPIRED OVER THE LAST DAY AND A HALF.

WE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO YOU COUNCIL, AND THEN THESE END OF THE RETREAT PARKING LOT ITEMS OR ADD AND DELETE ITEMS. AGAIN, IS YOUR FORUM FOR YOU TO SHARE WITH US ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE AND WE'LL TRY TO TAKE GOOD NOTES. PLEASE.

>> WARREN BUFFERS. EARLIER IN THE MEETING, WHEN I SAID THAT WANT TO PRESERVE JUDGMENT ON THE STEM FACILITY AND SUNNY SIDE?

>> YES.

>> WELL, I'M GOING TO GO ON RECORD THAT I'M FULLY SUPPORTED DOING THAT NOW.

>> THANK YOU, COUNSELOR.

>> NOW, I'LL TAKE THAT COMMENT.

WE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR TWO DAYS, WE TALKED QUESTIONS.

WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR SEVERAL MONTHS TALKING ABOUT BUDGET, AND SOME VARIOUS ALL-DAY MEETINGS.

THE ONE THING THAT STICKS OUT TO ME, IS WE'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE COULD GIVE OUR EMPLOYEES A LITTLE BIT BIGGER BRAINS AND THAT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE I LOVE THEM, WHICH I DO, BUT IT'S BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATISTICS WE SAW WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BEING OFFERED JOBS AND THEY TURN IT DOWN PROBABLY BECAUSE OF NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY OR WHATEVER.

LONG STORY SHORT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE CAN SQUEEZE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY OUT TO GIVE OUR EMPLOYEES TO A LITTLE BIT GIVE THEM RAISE.

THAT AMOUNT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ACROSS THE BORDER OR IT'S LIKE IN THE YEARS AGO,

[04:35:03]

WE GAVE THE BASIC PART, BIGGER RAISE THAN OTHER EMPLOYEES.

ONLY THE SEPTUM CITY MANAGER, IT MAY BE THAT CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS NEED THIS MORE THAN OTHERS, BUT MY GENERAL COMMENT IS IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN DO, I WOULD LIKE TO SQUEEZE MONEY OUT, TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO OUR EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT ADVICE AND COMMENT OF ANY OTHER RESPONSE TO THAT AND I'LL GET TO YOUR QUESTION [INAUDIBLE]? WE WANT A CHAT ABOUT THAT OR CAN WE JUST TAKE IT AS A NOTE TO BE MEMORIALIZED?

>> WHY DO WE SUPPORT IT ACTUALLY? [BACKGROUND] I AGREE WITH THAT AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD IN THE CONVERSATION YESTERDAY WAS JUST THE MOVE FROM A MERIT-BASED INCREASE THAT STARTED AT THREE PERCENT TO NOW THE PERFORMANCE BASED IT STARTS AT TWO AND THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN IS THAT FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN PERFORMING AND GETTING THAT MERIT BASE, WILL SEE THAT AS ALMOST A DEMOTED VALUE OF THE WORK THAT THEY WERE DOING.

EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST ONE PERCENT, BUT STILL TO SEE THAT LOWER RATE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ROOM TO LOOK AT EITHER IF IT WAS JUST STARTING AT THREE OR JUST BUMPING UP WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THE BOARD.

I LOVE TO SEE IF THERE WAS ROOM TO DO THAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT ON THAT.

[OVERLAPPING] UNLESS WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> JUST FOR CLARITY, WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT PROBABLY TWO TO FOUR PERCENT RANGE, YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE FLOOR BEING TWO PERCENT.

DULY NOTED AND THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT.

>> PERIOD OF TIME.

[LAUGHTER]

>> LET'S SEE, RAINING BACK THERE DEEP IN THOUGHT.

[LAUGHTER].

>> WE WILL WRESTLE WITH THE ENTIRE BUDGET TEAM.

BUT RIGHT NOW I WAS DEEP IN THOUGHT, BUT WE HEARD THE COMMENTS.

MAYBE WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION OF IT.

WE STARTED OFF BY SAYING THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE YOU EXPRESSED AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

DISCOMFORT WITH THE FLOOR BEING TWO PERCENT.

THEN YOU HAVE ADDED ON MAYBE THE CEILINGS GETS RAISED, SUPPLY WELL THEN. [OVERLAPPING]

>> LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO DO, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE REALITY, THERE'S SOMETHING SO MUCH MONEY.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO DO WHAT YOU CAN AND MAYBE THAT'S HALF A PERCENT, MAYBE JUST A QUARTER PERCENT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

>> I'M GOING TO ATTEMPT TO BIFURCATE THIS DISCUSSION INTO TWO THINGS, AND GET RIGHT INPUT FROM EVERYBODY.

ONE THING IS, OBVIOUSLY IN THE FLOOR, THAT'S OKAY FOR PERFORMANCE, WHICH IS TARGETED TO BE TWO PERCENT AND THE OTHER IS REVISITING THE CEILING, WHICH IS TARGETED TO BE 4 PERCENT.

MAYBE WE CAN SEPARATE BOTH AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INPUT.

>> I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING AGAINST WHAT THEY SAY, BECAUSE I THINK OUR WAYS ARE THE MOST VALUABLE RESOURCE BUT I JUST DID WANT TO BRING IT BACK UP THAT WE ARE ALSO GIVING THEM A MARKET ADJUSTMENT.

>> YES. THANK YOU.

>> IT MAYBE BE THEY PAY FOR PERFORMANCE IS 2-4, BUT THEY'RE ALSO GETTING A MARKET RATING.

>> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

I WAS GOING TO DO THE SAME AND THAT IS ACROSS THE BOARD AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE ENTIRELY INDEPENDENT OF TIMES FOR MERIT.

>> I AM GENERALLY IN SUPPORT OF AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU CAN BRING FROM THE BUDGET FOR STAFF.

I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE, IT'S A PRIORITY FOR ME.

I KNOW IT'S A PRIORITY FOR STAFF.

[LAUGHTER] OF COURSE, IT'S A PRIORITY FOR STAFF, A PRIORITY FOR COUNCIL.

I GUESS WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT YOU SHOULD ALL FEEL SUPPORTED TO PRESENT US WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IS ENTICING TO EMPLOYEES AND THERE FOR EMPLOYEES.

I THINK IN GENERAL THAT WE WOULD ALWAYS SUPPORT IT.

IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET AS A WHOLE, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT ALL THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE NOT FUNDED.

[04:40:07]

I KNOW THAT STAFF IS WORKING REALLY HARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND THEM, BUT I JUST CLEARED IT OUT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS AND A LOT OF DESIRES.

WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE SO CRITICAL THAT IT'S NOT REALLY A DESIRE, IT IS AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY, AND IT JUST CAUSES ME SOME LITTLE BIT OF ANXIETY.

>> I APOLOGIZE FOR THE ANXIETY.

I THINK IT'S PROPERLY FELT AND NOT AN OVERREACTION.

I THINK THERE'S EXCITEMENT, BUT THERE'S ANXIETY ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

PERHAPS A PLACE TO RETURN ON THIS DISCUSSION OF UNFUNDED FUTURE PROJECTS IS FOR STAFF TO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE ANALYSIS TO IT AS TO, WHERE ARE THE ESSENTIAL PROJECTS THAT ARE TRULY NOT DISCRETIONARY? WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WOULD BE A GREAT EXAMPLE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ONES, VERSUS SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCRETIONARY AND MAYBE MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER THAN TO TALK ABOUT PRIORITIZING THOSE FUTURE UNFUNDED PROJECTS THROUGH THAT MERIT.

>> MAYBE CHANGE THE SLIDE TITLE TO NOT YET FUNDED PROJECTS.

>> NOT YET FUNDED PROJECTS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

BACK TO STAFF, WE DO HAVE THIS THREE PERCENT MARGIN ADJUSTMENT.

I THINK I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM COUNCIL, IS THERE A STRONG DESIRE TO REVISIT THE PAY FOR PERFORMANCE STRUCTURE, OR IF THERE IS A DESIRE AS THE MAYOR ARTICULATED TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN FOR STAFF? JUST GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE, WOULD THE MARKET ADJUSTMENT BE THE WAY TO ADDRESS THAT VERSUS ADDING ONTO PAY FOR PERFORMANCE? MARKET ADJUSTMENT, OF COURSE, BE ONE TIME [NOISE] MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER RATHER THAN ONGOING, AND THE PAY FOR PERFORMANCE IS SOMETHING THAT'S IN OUR FIVE-YEAR PLANS.

SO THAT'S A BIG CHANGE TO ME.

>> I LIKE THE MAYOR'S DIRECTIVES, THE WAY SHE STATED IT.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO GET PRESCRIPTIVE ABOUT IT.

THAT'S FOR YOU GUYS TO FIGURE OUT.

>> THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING] THAT IS [INAUDIBLE] TO IT.

I WANT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE STAFF FOR SHARING THE COMMENTS THAT YOU JUST DID.

IT'S MORE THAN THE COMPENSATION STUDIES.

OUR ISSUE IS THE UNANIMOUS SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR STAFF.

I KNOW THAT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED, SO THANK YOU.

>> ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, I KNOW WE HAVE A PETTY CASH FUND.

THAT'S THE WRONG TERM FOR IT.

>> THE COUNCIL INITIATIVE FUND.

>> YEAH, COUNCIL INITIATIVE FUND.

I'M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT THE BEST WAYS TO SPEND THAT.

OF COURSE, THAT'S A GROUP DECISION.

IN THE PAST, WE'VE SUPPORTED THE FLAGSTAFF TRAILS INITIATIVE.

I THINK THAT'S A WORTHY CONTINUED BENEFICIARY OF OUR FUNDING.

ALONG THOSE LINES, IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THE ARIZONA TRAIL ASSOCIATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING ARIZONA TRAIL THROUGH HIKERS THE RED CARPET TREATMENT AS THEY'RE COMING THROUGH TOWN AS WE DEVELOP THE AREA ALONG THE TRAIL HERE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

THOSE ARE JUST TWO THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW FOR THAT FUNDING.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF OUR PARKING LOT AND WHERE TO PLAY THE SHUFFLE GAME.

SO I CAN'T GET MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT, BUT I'VE BEEN VERY PLEASED OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS WITH THOSE PARKING LOT CONVERSATIONS AND WORKING THROUGH THOSE ITEMS. THERE'S NOTHING PARTICULARLY NEW ON THE HORIZON.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF LAW REQUIRES FURTHER SUPPORT FOR THE CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF THE DISCOVERY CENTER.

>> WE DON'T DO STUFF LIKE THAT.

>> OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED, OR YOU WOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT UP.

>> WE WOULD'VE BROUGHT IT UP. WE HAVE TO BRING EVERYTHING [INAUDIBLE]. SHE EVEN SAID SO.

>> I ALREADY SPOKE TO THEM, AND THEY WERE VERY [INAUDIBLE].

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU BASICALLY SAID AS MUCH YESTERDAY.

I JUST WANTED TO CROSS MY TS THERE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE PERSONALLY AT THIS TIME.

>> THANK YOU. CAN WE FIT THE TRAIL INITIATIVE DISCUSSION? MY RECOLLECTION IS, I THINK WE ALLOCATED $5,000 OUT OF THE COUNCIL INITIATIVE ON THAT LAST YEAR.

RICK OR BRANDY, DO YOU RECALL?

[04:45:03]

>> SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> HEADS ARE NODDING. IS THERE A DESIRE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT THIS YEAR?

>> I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THAT COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE WASN'T FINISHED WITH HER [INAUDIBLE] QUESTION, WAS SHE?

>> WELL, I DO APOLOGIZE. [LAUGHTER]

>> THAT'S OKAY. LET'S FINISH THIS AND THEN [OVERLAPPING]

>> PLEASE FORGIVE ME. EITHER WAY, I'M DONE. IT'S OPEN.

[LAUGHTER] I APOLOGIZE IF [INAUDIBLE].

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HOUSE.

>> I DO WANT TO SEE US HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT WE CAN DO BUDGET-WISE TO SUPPORT ADVANCING THE 10-YEAR HOUSING PLAN AND EFFORTS FOR AFFORDABILITY FOR THE CITY.

THE OTHER ITEM THAT DID COME A LOT AND IT WAS ACTUALLY A CITIZEN COMMENT THAT RAISED THIS WAS WE ALL JUST SAW WHAT HAPWITH THE RECYCLING PLANT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR CONVERSATION IS RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

>> YOU'RE ABOUT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

>> OKAY.

>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO CURTAIL YOUR QUESTION.

>> NO.

>> NOW THAT I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT, THAT IS OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> CAN I ASK HOW MUCH IS IN THAT FUND? BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE I CAME IN.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER.

I BELIEVE IT'S 20,000.

>> WE GAVE 5,000 LAST YEAR TO THE TRAILS? IS THAT WHAT I HEAR?

>> MY RECOLLECTION IS COUNCIL EXPENDED EVERYTHING LAST YEAR, AND 5,000 OF IF IT WENT TO TRAILS.

I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THE OTHER.

>> THE OTHER FUND WENT TO CARE GIVEN.

>> THE CARE GIVEN. THANK YOU, SHANE.

HERE BEFORE, IT WENT TO VICTIM SERVICES.

>> YES.

>> THE CARE GIVEN MONEY IS GOING TOWARDS THEIR EVALUATION OF THAT PROGRAM TO IDENTIFY ANY GAPS IN SERVICES.

>> LET'S LOOK AT WHAT ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY MIGHT NEED SOME FUNDS.

IF WE'VE GIVEN TO THOSE TWO UNITS BEFORE, LET'S LOOK AT SOME OTHER PLACES WHERE WE COULD SPEND SOME OF THOSE FUNDS, LIKE IN A ROTATION, EVERYBODY GETS A TURN SOME POINT IN TIME.

>> THANK YOU. OTHER INPUT ON THAT?

>> I AGREE WITH THAT INSTINCT.

I WOULDN'T WANT SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO BECOME TOO COMFORTABLE RECEIVING FUNDING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

>> I THINK THERE IS A, PLEASE.

>> NO, YOU'RE GOOD.

>> WELL, HEIDI, YOU HAD A COMMENT ON TRAILS. [INAUDIBLE]

>> MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF DOES THEIR PLEDGE FOR THE WILD, AND ALL OF THIS MONEY IS IF SOMEONE DONATES, IT GOES TO THE TRAIL SYSTEM AS WELL.

I CAN GET THE TOTAL ON THAT AND SHARE IT WITH YOU.

I DON'T HAVE IT TODAY ON HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE GETTING FROM US.

I JUST LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

[INAUDIBLE].

>> TRAILS.

>> TRAILS. THANK YOU.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> MARKETING WISE, WE ALSO DID A BUNCH OF MATERIALS FOR TRAIL PAY CASH FOR THAT AS WELL.

THAT WAS FREE OF CHARGE AND THAT WAS [INAUDIBLE] JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE.

THERE IS A MATTER OF ACTIVITY HAPPENING WITH THAT INITIATIVE THROUGH OUR DISCOVERED BY SAFETY.

>> TWENTY THOUSAND IS A LOT TO PORTION, BUT NOT TOO MUCH FOR OUR CITY.

BUT I WAS THINKING MORE IN A BROADER-BASED COMMUNITY EITHER, IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO WITH THAT MONEY, DO ANY GOOD TO THE TWO PARTS IMPACTED COMMUNITIES FROM FLOODS? IN OUR BOARD DESIGNATED COMMUNITY SOUTH SIDE, SUNNYSIDE, THE OTHERS, IS THIS GRANT TO GIVE THEM FOR A SMALL PROJECT TO DO SOMETHING TO KNOW IF THERE'S A NEED THERE TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR COMMUNITY GARDEN OR BUREAU OR JUST SOMETHING TO REINVEST IN THOSE COMMUNITIES?

>> I HAVE A SUGGESTION. OH, I'M SORRY.

>> NO, [INAUDIBLE].

>> SOME OF OUR REC PROGRAMS IN THE SUMMER, WHATEVER WE HAVE GOING ON I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ALL ARE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE SOME OF THAT MONEY AND MAKE SURE THAT AS MANY KIDS AS WE HAVE SPACE FOR WHO INCOME QUALIFIES CAN PARTICIPATE? THAT WE COULD DO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ILLEGAL OR WHATEVER, BUT YOU KNOW A CAMP PROGRAM COST $25 [OVERLAPPING] A LOT TO OUR FAMILIES.

[04:50:05]

IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO SO THAT WE CAN TAKE 5,000 AND MY KIDS GO FREE FOR THE SOCCER OR WHATEVER THEY CAN AFFORD TO PAY AFTER?

>> I WILL TELL YOU WE GAVE HALF A SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM ALREADY AND THAT UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

WE ALWAYS HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THOSE THAT NEED THEM.

>> WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PARENTS KNOW [OVERLAPPING].

>> WHERE THERE MAY BE A GAP AND WE'RE EVALUATING THIS THIS YEAR IS TO QUALIFY FOR A SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE DOING THE CHECKING THE INCOME LEVELS, SO WE TRY TO FOLLOW OTHER PROGRAMS. IF YOU'RE ENROLLED IN SNAP OR THE SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM, AND WE TRY TO MAKE IT AS BROAD AS WE CAN, THEN YOU QUALIFY FOR THE RECREATION SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM AND THAT CAN BE USED FOR YOUTH SPORTS REGISTRATION AND ANY OF OUR PROGRAMMING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE A TEETH FOR IT.

THIS IS FOR ADULTS AS WELL THAT WANT TO JOIN THE OPERA PLUS THAT WANT TO SKATE AT JANE LIVELY AND DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] RENTALS OR BIRTHDAY RENTALS.

THOSE ARE PERSONAL ITEMS. WHERE THERE IS A GAP IS THOSE THAT ARE STILL NOT MEETING NEEDS AND CLASS STUFF AND WE MAY HAVE A LOT OF THEM THAT THEY MAY BE MORE THAN TO QUALIFY FOR THIS PROGRAMS. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT TRYING TO BRING BACK FREE SWIM LESSONS AS WELL.

>> THAT'S A GOOD ONE.

>> YES. THOSE ARE ALREADY READY TO GO [INAUDIBLE] CLOSE TO THAT.

>> IF I MAY, JUST FOR COUNCILOR MATTHEWS SECOND TO THAT, [INAUDIBLE] LAST YEAR, WE GAVE THEM $2,200 FROM VISITORS AND LOCALS THAT PLEDGE THEIR DOLLAR TO WILD FOR FLAG.

IT ACTS TO WILD FOR FLAG TO 44,321, I CAN SEND THIS OUT TO YOU.

SO WE CAN GET MORE PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S ALREADY A PLEDGE FOR WILD CAMPAIGN AND THEN IF YOU ENJOYED THE TRAIL, YOU PLEDGE JUST $1 THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY CONTINUE TO HELP FLAG TRAILS INITIATIVE GET FUNDING THAT WAY.

IT COULD REALLY BECOME QUITE EFFECTIVE FOR THEM.

THAT'S A SUGGESTION. IT'S ALREADY A PROGRAM THAT STARTED.

YOU JUST HAVE TO PROBABLY DO A BETTER JOB GETTING [INAUDIBLE].

>> I LIKE THE SUSTAINABILITY ASPECT TO THAT.

NOT IN TERMS OF NICOLE'S DEPARTMENT, BUT IN TERMS OF GETTING PERPETUITY.

>> YEAH, DEFINITELY. THEY CAN VISIT.

IT LOOKS LIKE EIGHT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT WE CONSIDER WILD PLACES.

FOR INSTANCE, THE NATIONAL FORESTS.

IT SPEAKS FOR CANYONS SINCE THEY'RE CREATURE OF PACHELBEL BUT CANON OF GREEK AND [INAUDIBLE] AND ALL OF THOSE AREAS WILL HAVE, I THINK WE'RE GETTING A SIGNAGE OUT THERE THAT SHOWS THAT THEY CAN DO PLEDGING.

DID YOU ENJOY YOUR HIKE? KIND OF THING, COULD YOU THEN DONATE $1? SO WE COULD GET A BETTER NETWORK OF THAT'S ALL TALKING ABOUT IT THAT COULD REALLY PERTAIN TO BE BIG DOLLARS FOR THEM.

>> THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER THOUGHTS.

I'LL TRY TO STATE THIS IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS YOU TO USE DECISION TREE METRICS TO FILTER THINGS OUT IN THE MOST APPROPRIATE MANNER.

OF COURSE, THIS IS ONLY ONE OF SO MANY VOICES HERE.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE COUNCIL POC, THE INITIATIVE THAT WE HAVE, YOU NEVER WANT TO SPEND ALL THAT IN ONE PLACE.

I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT NOT TO SPEND IT TOO MANY YEARS IN A ROW IN THE SAME PLACES.

BUT ALSO WE'RE TALKING VERY BIG DOLLAR SIGNS FOR A LOT OF THINGS DURING THIS BUDGET RETREATS.

I LIKE TO SEE THAT $20,000 DISTRIBUTED AMONGST CAUSES WHERE THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO FEEL THE ADDITIONAL INFLUX OF A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.

THAT JUST MAKES ME PERSONALLY FEEL GOOD.

I THINK IT'S THOSE MOMENTS, THOSE SMALL CASH INFUSIONS THAT CAN REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR FOLKS OUT THERE TRYING THEIR HARDEST UNDER VERY LIMITED RESOURCES.

I THINK THE ARIZONA TRAIL IS DIFFERENT THAN THE BLACK STUFF TRAIL INITIATIVE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A WORTHY TARGET OF A LITTLE BIT OF FUNDING JUST TO STRENGTHEN THAT PARTNERSHIP AND KEEP THE ARIZONA TRAIL GOING THROUGH BLACK STEP FRONT OF MIND.

ALL OF THIS FEEDS INTO ABOVE AND BEYOND GENERAL BUDGET PARKING LOT WHERE THERE'S EXTRA MONEY THAT YOU'RE FINDING IN THE COUCH CUSHIONS, GREG.

HELPING LIFT SALARIES A LITTLE BIT MORE DEFINITELY A PRIORITY.

[04:55:02]

ANOTHER ONE FOR ME, AND THIS GOES BACK TO TRAILS AND CONNECTIVITY, MULTI MODALITY, BIG SHIFTS POLICIES, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE CUSHIONING THE EDGES OF THOSE PROJECTS AND EFFORTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS AND THE RAISED BIKE LANES ALONG BUTLER.

I THINK WE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE FULLY FUNDED AT OUR PREVIOUS CAPITAL RETREAT.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT USING GRANTS TO DO THAT.

THAT'S FINE IF THE GRANTS WERE THERE TO REPLACE THE OTHER FUNDING, BUT MY OTHER WAYS OF PRIORITIZING EXTRA FUNDING THAT WE'RE FINDING WOULD BE TO FILL IN THOSE GAPS AND MAKE SURE THAT THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND THESE NEW CONNECTIONS ARE WELL ON THE WAY.

I WENT OUT WITH MARTIN FOR A WHOLE MORNING VERY RECENTLY, PAST COUPLE WEEKS.

HE SHOWED ME ALL OF HIS PIE IN THE SKY WISH LIST ITEMS AND WE DROVE ALL THE WAY AROUND TOWN LOOKING AT THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE, THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DONE, AND THE THINGS THAT HE'S DREAMING ABOUT.

THOSE WOULD BE THE KINDS OF WAYS I'D LIKE TO DIRECT OUR EFFORTS THIS YEAR AND THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS JUST TO REALLY LEVERAGE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE BEHIND THAT AND THAT WE'RE MAKING THOSE TRANSITIONS POSSIBLE.

THERE'S A LOT OF REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE DONE ON OUR SPOKESPERSONS OF FOOTS TRAILS AFTER THIS WINTER, THERE MIGHT BE ROOM FOR THINKING ABOUT GETTING RID OF THAT ASPHALT AND GOING BACK TO A COMPOSITE AND WHERE THOSE THINGS AREN'T BEING FUNDED, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT.

I'M ALSO STILL ALWAYS SMARTED AT THE FACT THAT WE WENT THROUGH ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE BONE NARROW AREA, SPECIFICALLY ZUNI, I THINK.

WE NEVER PUT SIDEWALKS IN THERE.

I FEEL THAT'S A MATTER OF SOCIAL INJUSTICE.

I'D STILL LIKE TO SEE THAT RECTIFIED AND JUST OTHER SIDEWALKS, PEDESTRIAN AND FOOTPRINTS AND CONNECTIVITY IS WHERE MY HEART FOR MY PRIORITY WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO TAKING CARE OF OUR STAFF.

>> THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO TOUCH ON ONE OF THOSE TOPICS BECAUSE IT'S FURTHER INTO WHAT YOU WERE SUGGESTING.

WE'RE ASKING ABOUT THE TWO PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS ALONG WITH THE RAISED PEDESTRIAN AND PARTLY BICYCLE CYCLIC LANE ALONG BUTLER.

TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS, ACTUALLY THREE PROJECTS, A TWO INTERSECTIONS BEEN PROBABLY, I WAS CHATTING WITH GREG, IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT, I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, A POSSIBLE REALLOCATION OF THE THREE MILLION DOLLARS THAT OTHERWISE WOULD BE GOING TO MATCH THE DOWNTOWN MILES WITH THE RECENT APPROPRIATION FROM THE TRANSPORTATION BOARD OR MAYBE WE CAN NOW REALLOCATE THOSE MONIES INTO THE PROJECTS YOU'RE MAKING REFERENCE TO.

WE HEARD EARLIER THAT THE BUTLER PROJECT COULD BE APPROXIMATELY NEAR $10 MILLION. WE DON'T KNOW YET.

WE'RE STILL DOING SOME EARLY CONCEPT OR DESIGN ON THAT.

THAT ONE MOST CERTAINLY WILL REQUIRE GRANT FUNDING, BUT MAYBE THIS COULD BE SOME POTENTIAL MATCH FOR GRANT FUNDING.

THE TAKEAWAY IS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CAPITALIZE THE TWO INTERSECTIONS AND LOOK AT POSSIBLE MATCH MONEY FOR A BRAND FOR THE BUTLER PROJECT AND THEN WE TAKE NOTE OF ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED.

>>THANK YOU. THE BUTLER PROJECT, OF COURSE, IT'S JUST A ONE SPECIFIC EXAMPLE AND ONLY THE START OF A RAISED BICYCLE PATHWAY NETWORK THROUGH OUR TOWN.

REAL QUICKLY JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THOSE COMMENTS WERE IN FURTHERANCE OF WHAT COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE] ALREADY MENTIONED EARLIER DURING THE RETREAT.

>> THANK YOU [INAUDIBLE]

>> YES.

>> IT'S A QUESTION ABOUT PARKING LOT COUNCIL.

CAN WE SUGGEST SMALL AGENCIES, THEY WERE SUGGESTING THEY HAVE TO GIVE SOME MONEY TO A FEW $1,000?

>> OUT OF THE INITIATIVE? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

AS I WAS HEARING THE CONVERSATION TO SEE IF MAYBE WE COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH SOME IDEAS, AND PERHAPS THE COUNCIL CAN GENERATE SOME IDEAS.

THIS IS YOUR INITIATIVE.

WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT DECISION FOR YOU, BUT WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HAVE A TALK AND INFORM THE DISCUSSION, SO MAYBE WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS.

IF I COULD DO THE SAME AND CIRCLE BACK AND COALESCE, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME DEFINITIVES WELL IN ADVANCE OF WHEN THE BUDGET IS APPROVED.

WE WERE LOOKING AT THE TAIL-END LAST YEAR WHEN COUNCIL MADE THAT APPROPRIATION.

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WE'D LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE MORE OF A CUSHION THIS YEAR.

>> THAT COULD BE [INAUDIBLE]?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I'M FAMILIAR AND NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WITH A SMALL NON-PROFIT.

I VOLUNTEERED TO HELP WRITE SOME GRANTS FOR THEM.

THEY HAVE A UNIQUE FOCUS.

THEY PAY FOR THE CREMATION OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMMITTED SUICIDE AND THEIR FAMILIES CAN'T AFFORD TO GIVE THEM ANY TYPE OF BURIAL.

THEY WORK WITH ONE OF THE LOCAL AGENCIES HERE TO GIVE CREMATIONS AND THEY PAY FOR THAT SO THE FAMILY ISN'T BURDENED WITH NOT ONLY THE SHOCK AND STRUGGLES OF A FAMILY MEMBER COMMITTING SUICIDE, BUT THEY PAY FOR THEM TO REALLY PROGRESS.

IT'S $1,000 FOR A PERSON WHERE THEY'VE NEGOTIATED WITH THE LOCAL MORTUARY.

IT'S NOT A LOT, BUT IT'S SADLY A NEED THAT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN UP HERE.

IT DOESN'T GET A LOT OF PRESS, BUT IT'S INVALUABLE TO SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A MEANS TO HAVE THE INSURANCE AND THEN A LOVED ONE TAKES THEIR LIVES AND THEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO UP ENTICEMENT AND THAT HAPPENS AND I'D LIKE TO SEE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MONEY GOING TO THEM.

>> THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING]

>> SORRY. I DIDN'T CATCH THAT EARLIER.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> ARE THERE THOUGHTS, COMMENTS.

SUGGESTIONS? YES, PLEASE, COUNCILMEMBER SWEET.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER ASLAN FOR BACKING UP MY EARLIER COMMENTS AND I STILL FOR ME WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS AS MY NUMBER 1 OVER THE PARKING LOT.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S [INAUDIBLE] AND IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN WILL BE HUGE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

FOR OUR COUNCIL INITIATIVES, ONE THAT I HAD, I WAS APPROACHED IN THE INTERNATIONAL FILM FESTIVAL, THEY WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO SPONSOR, THIS IS THEIR FIRST YEAR.

I THINK THEY REACHED OUT [INAUDIBLE], I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT CREATIVE WAYS THAT THE CITY CAN PARTNER WITH THEM.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD SET ASIDE SOME MONEY WITH THE COUNCIL INITIATIVE FUNDS TO SPONSOR LOCAL EVENTS, THE FILM FESTIVAL, THE WHOLE THING, THE JAZZ FESTIVAL, AND THE FILM FESTIVAL AND BECOMES COMMUNITY PARTNERS IF WE HAVE ALREADY DID VARIOUS COMMUNITY EVENTS THIS YEAR.

>> MAYOR DAGGETT, COUNCILMEMBER SWEET, I WOULD LIKE TO CAUTION YOU ON THIS GESTURE.

THERE ARE SO MANY FESTIVALS IN TOWN, I THINK THE BEST THING THAT WE COULD DO IS REDUCE DIRECTED TO DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF UNLESS THEY'VE CREATED THEIR MARKETING MATERIAL, IT'S NOT EVEN IF THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT SUPPORT, WE HELP MARKET THAT FESTIVAL.

I CAN OPEN UP THE VISUAL GUIDE RIGHT NOW AND SHOW THAT TO YOU AND YOU WILL BE COMING WITH REQUEST AFTER REQUEST.

THAT'S WHY DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF HAD SAID, WE CAN'T SPONSOR THESE LIKE THIS, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN HELP MARKET AND MAKE SURE THEY BEGIN THEIR VISITATION HOPEFULLY INWARD AND OUTWARD.

I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT.

NOW IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A RULE THAT YOU MIGHT DO IT AT ONE TIME, WHEN THEY'RE FIRST STARTING OR SOMETHING, THAT COULD HAPPEN.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU ALL THE OTHER EVENT PLAYERS WILL COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY, WELL, WHAT ABOUT ME? I'M DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND I THINK IT WILL REALLY BE HARD TO MANAGE.

I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT WE'RE 100,000 PERCENT HAPPY TO THEM TO DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF AND EACH TIME THEY GET A REQUEST AND WE HAVE YOU CERTAIN OF [INAUDIBLE].

>> I APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK.

IT'S A LOT. [OVERLAPPING] THEY WANT BUDGET CONTROL.

>> THANK YOU.

>> IT'S THREE O'CLOCK, ALMOST QUARTER TO 3:00 ON A FRIDAY.

I DON'T WANT TO OVER EXTEND HERE.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, I THINK WE CAN WRAP THIS UP AND MAYOR, YOU CAN BRING US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

BUT BEFORE THAT, ANYTHING ELSE ON [INAUDIBLE] PARKING LOT ISSUE?

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PERFECT. [NOISE]

>> DO YOU HAVE TO JUST SAY ONE? LET'S SAY I AGREE WITH BOTH OF THEM.

>> YES, YOU CAN DO THAT.

>> THAT'S GOOD. THE INTERSECTIONS, I THINK, IS A GREAT FIRST STEP OF MANY.

NOW I CAN'T HELP IT IF WE GO DOWN THE STREET AND SEE A SIDEWALK DIRT AND A BIKE LANE AND GO RAISED CHAT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING.

I THINK WE'VE GO TO START SOMEWHERE.

WE'VE DONE SOME STUFF THAT I THINK IS REALLY CRITICAL.

WE ARE A VERY POPULAR DESTINATION, PEOPLE WANT TO BE OUTDOORS.

I CAN FIND THE EQUAL WITH ALSO SUPPORT MAYBE, OUR STAFF BECAUSE NOTHING HAPPENS WITHOUT A PRETTY, GOOD TEAM.

>> THANK YOU. AS A REMINDER THAT THE BIKE PILOT PROJECT IS COMING TO RELEASE SOON.

WE'LL REVISIT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING MENTIONED ABOUT THAT AT ALL.

YOU COULD JUST KNOW IT WAS A PILOT PROJECT.

WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF PILOT PROJECTS? WHAT WE DID RIGHT, WHAT WE MIGHT DO BETTER.

I THINK IT'S ALL BEEN VERY INSTRUCTIVE AND REALLY EXCITED TO HEARING THE COMMENTS AND THE DESIRE TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

THAT CONVERSATION WILL CONTINUE.

MAYOR, ANYTHING ELSE ON YOUR END? I'M GOOD.

>> YEAH. NOTHING ELSE.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE JUST HAVE ADJOURNED MET [OVERLAPPING] LIKE PASS AROUND SOME FOLKS.

>> I'M GOING TO START BY THANKING KATIE FOR FACILITATING AND MAYBE INVITE HER, ANY FINAL NUGGETS OF WISDOM YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US OR ANY MORE OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

>> I WASN'T PLANNING ON DOING A FINAL QUESTION.

I'M HOPING TO SAY THAT IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL EVENING, SO I HOPE EVERYONE GETS TO ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL [INAUDIBLE] NEXT WEEKEND.

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF OUR PRESENTERS TODAY WHO ARE FLEXIBLE WITH THE TIMING AND HELPING US KEEP ON TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> GREAT. EVERY ONE HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.

MEETING ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.