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>> OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS MEETING STARTED.
[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this work session, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]
TODAY IS TUESDAY, MAY 23, 2023.THIS IS A COMBINED SPECIAL MEETING AND WORK SESSION.
PURSUANT TO ARS 38-431.02 NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT AT THIS WORK SESSION, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR LEGAL ADVICE AND DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY'S ATTORNEYS ON ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA. CAN WE HAVE ROLL-CALL?
I'M IN SAN ANTONIO WITH THE DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF TEAM, BUT I AM PRESENT FOR THE MEETING.
>> ALRIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE?
>> WOULD BE, MY HONOR. CAN YOU ALL STAND IF YOU'RE ABLE?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, WOULD YOU READ OUR MISSION STATEMENT?
>> I'D BE GLAD TO THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, WOULD YOU READ OUR LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT?
>> I WILL, MAYOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THIS AREA'S INDIGENOUS NATIONS AND ORIGINAL STEWARDS.
THESE LANDS STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS, BORDER MOUNTAINS SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.
WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.
WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE AS HOME. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE ARE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 4 PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
[4. Public Participation Public Participation enables the public to address the council about items that are not on the prepared agenda. Public Participation appears on the agenda twice, at the beginning and at the end of the work session. You may speak at one or the other, but not both. Anyone wishing to comment at the meeting is asked to fill out a speaker card and submit it to the recording clerk. When the item comes up on the agenda, your name will be called. You may address the Council up to three times throughout the meeting, including comments made during Public Participation. Please limit your remarks to three minutes per item to allow everyone to have an opportunity to speak. At the discretion of the Chair, ten or more persons present at the meeting and wishing to speak may appoint a representative who may have no more than fifteen minutes to speak.]
THIS IS THE PUBLIC'S CHANCE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ABOUT ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.EACH SPEAKER HAS THREE MINUTES AND YOU'LL NOTICE A TIME CLOCK HERE.
SORRY, I WAS READING SOMETHING.
I'M GOING TO START WITH MICHELLE JAMES.
>> MAYOR. COULD YOU GIVE US JUST A MOMENT? IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY ONLINE.
>> BRANDY, ARE YOU STILL NOT SEEING ANY VIDEO?
>> IS ANYONE ELSE HAVING THAT ISSUE?
>> I'M FINE. I CAN SEE EVERYTHING.
>> THANK YOU FOR CONFIRMATION BRANDY YOU MAY NEED TO GET OUT OF THE MEETING AND REJOIN.
>> HI, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, YOU KNOW WHO I AM, MICHELLE JAMES FROM FRIENDS OF FLAGSTAFF'S FUTURE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT TWO ISSUES RELATED TO THE SCHEDULED JUNE 6TH SECOND READING OF THE NAH ZONING CODE AMENDMENT AND SPECIFIC PLAN FOR PHASE 1 OF THEIR PROPOSAL.
FIRST, COULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY IF PUBLIC COMMENTS RELATED TO THE SECOND READ WILL BE ALLOWED? THIS IS AN IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW.
F-CUBED REQUESTS THAT YOU ANNOUNCE YOUR DECISION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND WOULD APPRECIATE BEING INFORMED OF YOUR DECISION. THANK YOU.
SECONDLY, I WANT TO ADDRESS THE DECISION YOU MADE ON TUESDAY, LAST TUESDAY.
THE FIRST READ OF THE NAH ZONING CODE AMENDMENT AND SPECIFIC PLAN.
F-CUBED AND MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE DISMAYED AT YOUR DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH NAH'S REQUEST WITHOUT HAVING IMPORTANT INFORMATION RELEVANT TO THE PROPOSAL.
WE HAVE INFORMATION FROM NAH, WE HAVE INFORMATION FROM STAFF.
WE DO NOT HAVE A COMMUNITY IMPACT STUDY.
WE DO NOT KNOW HOW THE MOVE OF THE HOSPITAL OUT-OF-TOWN WILL AFFECT THE BUSINESSES SURROUNDING THE CURRENT HOSPITAL.
WE DO NOT KNOW WHY IT WAS POSSIBLE TO RENOVATE THE HOSPITAL IN 2020, BUT NOT IN 2022.
THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN THOROUGHLY EXAMINED.
THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT STAFF ARE NOT CHARGED TO CONSIDER, BUT THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO THE DECISION AND THEY NEED TO BE ANSWERED.
COUNCIL HAS AN OBLIGATION TO THE RESIDENTS OF FLAGSTAFF TO THOROUGHLY VET PROPOSALS THAT SERIOUSLY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
TO OUR SURPRISE LAST WEEK, YOU CHOSE NOT TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF SEEKING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
AS I SAID, F-CUBED FINDS THIS DECISION DISTURBING.
F-CUBED ASKS YOU RECONSIDER YOUR DECISION TO SEEK ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM OUTSIDE EXPERTS AND THEN TO MAKE YOUR DECISION.
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IT IS WE BELIEVE THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO.THIS DISCERNMENT IS A NECESSARY STEP IN MAKING A DECISION IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR COMMUNITY AND WE ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO TAKE A BREATH, GATHER THE INFORMATION WE DON'T YET HAVE, AND THEN MAKE A DECISION OF THIS MAGNITUDE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M A 20 YEAR RESIDENT OF FLAGSTAFF AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS A FEW CONCERNS I HAVE REGARDING NAH'S PROPOSAL TO BUILD A NEW HOSPITAL AND HEALTH VILLAGE.
ACCORDING TO THE LATEST IPCC REPORT, AND I'M QUOTING, "RADICAL CHANGES ARE REQUIRED ON A SYSTEMIC LEVEL AND EVERY AVAILABLE MEASURE NEEDS TO BE UNDERTAKEN TO HAVE THE CHANCE OF KEEPING GLOBAL WARMING BELOW 1.5 DEGREES." LONG GONE ARE THE DAYS WHEN RECYCLING AND CHANGING OUR LIGHT BULBS WERE CONSIDERED SUFFICIENT.
THE REGIONAL PLAN CALLS FOR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS TO HELP THE CITY REACH ITS GOAL OF CARBON NEUTRALITY.
YET NO SUSTAINABILITY ANALYSIS HAS BEEN DONE.
LEED PLATINUM CERTIFICATION SHOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN AND THE PLANNING PROCESS.
PASSIVE SOLAR, AMBIENT LIGHTING AND POWER FROM NON-FOSSIL FUELS SHOULD BE PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS.
LOCATING THE HOSPITAL ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN WILL, UNDOUBTABLY ADD MORE CARS ON THE ROAD.
NAH SHOULD COMMIT TO FUNDING ELECTRIC BUSES TO AND FROM THE HEALTH VILLAGE.
THE HOUSING SHORTAGE IS PREDICTED TO WORSEN WITH THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHOULD ALSO BE A PART OF THE INITIAL PLANNING FOR NOT ONLY THE NEW CAMPUS, BUT THE OLD CAMPUS AS WELL.
AT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, PICKLEBALL PROPONENTS ADDRESS THE COUNCIL WITH THEIR SUPPORT OF BUILDING NEW COURTS.
CONSIDERABLE ATTENTION WAS GIVEN TO THE SPEAKERS.
I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST PICKLE BALL, BUT I AM ASKING THAT AS MUCH CONSIDERATION, IF NOT MORE, BE GIVEN TO THE CLIMATE CRISIS AND ITS RAMIFICATIONS.
I WANT TO REPEAT THE QUOTE FROM IPCC SINCE I HAVE TIME, "EVERY AVAILABLE MEASURE NEEDS TO BE UNDERTAKEN." THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
LAST WEEK'S COUNCIL MEETING WAS A REAL EYE-OPENER.
PICKLEBALL PLAYERS ATTENDED IN FULL FORCE TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY'S PARK DISTRICT PLAN FOR NEW PICKLEBALL COURTS AT BUSH MASTER PARK.
WHILE THE COUNCIL OKAYED THE PLAN, THEY ALSO CONSIDERED THOSE NEARBY RESIDENTS AFFECTED ADVERSELY BY PICKLEBALL PLAY AND LIMITED LIGHTING AND HOURS OF PLAY.
IT IS OBVIOUSLY EASIER TO RALLY FOLKS FOR AN IMMEDIATE ACTION DIRECTLY IMPINGING ON THEM.
THE CLIMATE CRISIS ADVERSELY AFFECTING THE WHOLE WORLD IS MORE DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO GRASP.
TO SOME, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR DAILY LIVES.
TO OTHERS, IT SEEMS TOO OVERWHELMING.
SO WHY BOTHER? BUT SCIENTISTS TELL US THERE IS STILL HOPE TO MITIGATE DRASTICALLY WORSENING EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE IF WE ACT NOW, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON A LOCAL LEVEL.
SINCE FOSSIL FUEL USE IS THE MAJOR CAUSE OF THE CLIMATE DISRUPTION, ANYTHING WE DO TO REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT HELPS.
AS ELECTRICITY SOURCES BECOME CLEANER, POWERED BY RENEWABLES, CONVERTING FLEET VEHICLES TO ELECTRIC IS AN OBVIOUS PLUS.
CONVERTING HOMES AND PRIVATE VEHICLES TO ELECTRIC. WILL FOLLOW.
REDUCING OUR CONSUMPTION, REUSING ALL WE CAN AND RECYCLING IN
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WHATEVER WAY POSSIBLE ARE WAYS WE AS INDIVIDUALS CAN ALSO HELP.AND OF COURSE, THE NAH HOSPITAL COMPLEX DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO LOWER ITS CARBON OUTPUT TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S REGIONAL PLAN, FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL MUST PUT THIS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL ON HOLD UNTIL WRITTEN PLANS PROMISE A LOW-CARBON EFFECT ON FLAGSTAFF.
NAH HAS SHOWN SOME WILLINGNESS TO COMPLY, BUT THESE TOKEN EFFORTS ARE SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH.
UNWRITTEN PROMISES ARE EASY TO BREAK.
COUNCIL, PLEASE BE MINDFUL IN ALL YOUR DECISIONS OF WHAT IS BEST FOR FUTURE FLAGSTAFF GENERATIONS.
YOU HAVE THE POWER TO PROTECT US FROM WORSENING CLIMATE DISASTERS.
BE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE ON A LOCAL LEVEL.
SET THE POSITIVE PATTERN FOR FUTURE DECISIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
>> THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
MY NAME AGAIN IS JOHN MCCARTNEY.
I'VE BEEN IN TOWN SINCE THE EARLY 1990S, I HAVE A BACHELOR'S IN CIVIL ENGINEERING, HAS STUDIED LOTS OF SUBJECTS IN MECHANICAL ENGINEERING, INCLUDING AND ALSO GEOLOGY, METEOROLOGY, OR TO TERM PAPER ON CLIMATE CHANGE BACK THEN.
LOCALLY WORKED FOR BEC SOUTHWEST WITH A LOT OF DESIGN-BUILD PROJECTS WHICH TOUCH ON EFFICIENT BUILDING DESIGNS THAT I WAS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN.
IN THAT EFFORT I OBTAINED THE LEED AP CERT TO UP OUR GAME ON THESE PROJECTS.
RECENTLY, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE ALL DOING HERE, AT LEAST WHAT WE'RE DOING, RECENTLY VIEWED A LEAD SEMINAR ONLINE ENTITLED ELECTRIFICATION, DECARBONIZATION AND LEED.
IN THERE. I LEARNED THAT A NEW VIEW OF BOSTON STUDY FOUND THAT THE EXISTING BUILDINGS IN BOSTON REPRESENT 80% OF WHAT WILL BE IN USE IN 2050.
IF YOU DO THE MATH, THAT'S 95%.
IF YOU FIGURE IT TO 2030, LIKE THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS DOING.
[NOISE] IT'S TOUGH TO BUILD NOW WITH THE MONEY.
BUT I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY SIMILAR.
IN CONCLUSION, I THINK THAT THE NIH PROJECT AND HOW TO WORK WITH IT, HOW TO APPROACH IT, IS VERY SIMPLE, BUILD IT TO CARBON NET-ZERO.
OUR COMMUNITY, LED IN PART BY CITY OF FLAGSTAFF LEADERSHIP, WE HAVE OUR HANDS FULL TRYING TO UPGRADE OUR EXISTING INVENTORY, BUILDING INVENTORY AND TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS TO NET-ZERO.
I REVIEWED THE NIH'S PROPOSAL AND IN PARTICULAR THE OSB SPECIFIC PLAN NARRATIVE.
THE FIRST SECTION OF THE PLAN NARRATIVE IS TITLED PURPOSE AND INTENT.
ANOTHER SECTION IN THERE IS GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
WHILE DESCRIBING THE PURPOSE AND INTENT TO BUILD A HOSPITAL COMPLEX THAT ADDRESSES THE NEEDS OF NIH.
IT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE CRITICAL LAW OF THE LAND.
THAT OF COURSE IS CARBON NET-ZERO.
THIS IS A BAD PARADIGM WITH WHICH TO START OUR JOURNEY.
THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT WILL BE DEDICATED TO DESIGNING AND BUILDING A CARBON NET-ZERO PROJECT IS OPEN TO INTERPRETATION BASED ON THIS DOCUMENT.
SECTION 3 TITLED DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOES ADDRESS SUSTAINABILITY AND THIRD-PARTY CERTIFICATION, BUT IN A FASHION LARGELY DESCRIBED USING BOILERPLATE OPTIONS WHEN NO CURRENT COMMITMENT TO ANY SPECIFIC GOALS OR LEVELS OF CARBON POLLUTION.
THIS PRESENTATION IS ALARMING BECAUSE EXPERIENCE SUGGESTS THAT A BUDGET OFTEN HOLD SWAY OVER THE CONCERNS OF OUR HIGHER ASPIRATIONS AND COMMITMENT TO OUR CHILDREN.
I FEEL THAT THE PROJECT TEAM AND THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF SHOULD COME TO DOCUMENTED AGREEMENTS ON THE LEVELS OF SUSTAINABILITY AND CARBON CERTIFICATIONS.
A PRACTICAL WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THIS WOULD BE THE COMMITMENT TO ACHIEVING CERTIFICATIONS IN LEED PLATINUM, ZERO-CARBON, ZERO ENERGY, AND POSSIBLY ZERO WATER, COVERING THE CONSTRUCTION OPERATIONS IN TRANSPORTATION PHASES OF THE PROJECT.
>> HELLO, MAYOR DUGGAN, CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, CITIZENS OF FLAGSTAFF.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE NIH PROPOSAL.
I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD ME A FEW TIMES ON THIS.
I KNOW THAT Y'ALL VOTED IN FAVOR, SO THAT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AGAIN, SINCE YOU HAVE ONE MORE CHANCE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO PUT IN SOME CARBON AND SUSTAINABILITY REQUIREMENTS.
THE NIH PROPOSAL IS VERY WEAK ON ALL ELEMENTS OF SUSTAINABILITY AND CARBON FOOTPRINT.
THIS BILLION-DOLLAR PROPOSAL WILL HAVE THE LARGEST CARBON FOOTPRINT OF
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ANY PROJECT YOU ALL WILL DECIDE ON WHILE YOU ARE ON FLAGSTAFF SET CITY COUNCIL.I'M EAGER TO MEET WITH EACH OF YOU TO SPEAK ABOUT THE MANY DETAILS WHICH WOULD NOT FIT IN A THREE-MINUTE PRESENTATION.
AT THIS TIME, I'M JUST GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO ADD THREE KEY ELEMENTS TO THE NIH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
ONE, LEED PLATINUM CERTIFICATION.
THIS BASIC STANDARD IS NOT EVEN IN THE PROPOSAL.
MANY OTHER LARGE BUILDINGS IN FLAGSTAFF WERE ALREADY BUILT TO THIS STANDARD MANY YEARS AGO.
NIH SAYING THAT THEY MAY SEEK CERTIFICATION OF SOME SORT IN FIVE YEARS, IS NOT POSSIBLE.
FOR ANY LEED CERTIFICATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE VARIOUS PREREQUISITES AT THE VERY OUTSET.
THEM SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SEEK IT IN FIVE YEARS IS TOTALLY DISINGENUOUS.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO DO SO IF THEY DO NOT DO IT FROM DAY ONE.
IN THE DA, NIH, MUST SAY INDEFINITE TERMS THAT THEY WILL SEEK LEED PLATINUM LEVEL FROM THE START OF THE PROJECT.
IN TERMS OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, NIH HAS SHOWN NO CONCERN ABOUT THE CARBON FOOTPRINT OF ALL THE NEW TRANSPORTATION THAT WILL RESULT FROM MOVING TO THE EDGE OF TOWN.
THEY PROPOSE A SHUTTLE TO RUN TO THE WALMART PARKING LOT.
HOW WILL MOUNTAIN LINE PAY FOR ALL THE ADDITIONAL BUS ROUTES REQUIRED? IF NIH HAD ANY CONCERN ABOUT THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT, THEY WOULD INCLUDE THE PURCHASE OF TWO NEW ELECTRIC BUSES FOR MOUNTAIN LINE TO COVER THESE NEW ROUTES.
MOUNTAIN LINE CAN'T JUST COME UP WITH THE MONEY FOR THESE THINGS OUT OF THE BLUE.
IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, NIH MUST SAY THAT THEY WILL PURCHASE THESE BUSES FOR MOUNTAIN LINE PRIOR TO THE HOSPITAL OPENING FOR BUSINESS. PUBLIC HOUSING.
THE HIGH COST OF HOUSING IN FLAGSTAFF IS CAUSED IN LARGE PART BY HOME PURCHASE AND WEEKEND RENTAL PRESSURES FROM CENTRAL ARIZONA.
THIS WILL ONLY GET WORSE AS CLIMATE CHANGE DRIVES TEMPERATURES EVER HIGHER IN CENTRAL ARIZONA.
HOTELS AT THIS NEW LOCATION WILL NOT SOLVE THIS CRISIS.
ADDING A SMALL NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AT THE NEW LOCATION WILL ALSO NOT SOLVE OUR HOUSING CRISIS.
>> WE ARE DOWN TO ITEMS NUMBER 5 AND 6.
[5. Proclamation: Public Works Week]
THE FIRST IS A PROCLAMATION FOR PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.I HAVE A FEELING WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE IN OUR AUDIENCE THIS EVENING.
IF YOU WOULD COME DOWN AND JOIN COUNSEL UP HERE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THE NEXT PROCLAMATION IS JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.
>> LET'S HAVE YOU ALL COME DOWN.
THEY GO OFF IT, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
BEFORE YOU GET STARTED HERE, I'LL JUST QUICKLY LET THIS GROUP GATHER.
[BACKGROUND] I'LL START IN A COUPLE OF SECONDS.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS.
I WANT TO JUST QUICKLY GIVE YOU A BRIEF INTRODUCTION AS YOU ARE KIND ENOUGH TO READ THIS BLOCK PROCLAMATION FOR US THIS EVENING, EVERYONE WILL FIT IN.
PUBLIC WORKS. CITY OF FLAGSTAFF COVERS FOUR DISTINCT AREAS.
WE HAVE OUR FACILITIES GROUP HERE WITH US.
IF YOU GUYS CAN RAISE YOUR HAND FOR REPRESENTATION.
I THINK DURING THE BLACK SHARP SHIRTS.
THIS IS YOUR FACILITIES GROUP THAT MAINTAINS ALL OF OUR CITY FACILITIES.
WE HAVE OUR FLEET GROUP REPRESENTATION.
[LAUGHTER] NATE MAINTAINS ALL 800 PIECES OF CITY ROLLING STOCK.
[LAUGHTER] WE HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM OUR STREETS GROUP.
IF YOU GUYS CAN ALL RAISE YOUR HAND, PLEASE.
THEY MAINTAIN YOUR 700 LANE MILES OF ROADWAY, YOUR 3,500 TRAFFIC LIGHTS, STREETLIGHTS, AND YOUR 47 TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, OUR SOLID WASTE LANDFILL RECYCLE CENTER.
EVERYTHING ELSE RELATED TO TRASH AND PICK UP.
IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HANDS. VERY GOOD.
THEN WE HAVE SOME ADMIN STAFF WITH US FROM THE ADMIN BUILDING.
BAILEY AND LYNETTE IN PARTICULAR. WHO DID I MISS?
>> JARRET AND ADAM. WHERE ARE THEY AT? THEY ARE THE PROJECT MANAGER FROM PUBLIC WORKS.
WE CLEARLY HAVE SOME GOOD REPRESENTATION TONIGHT AND EVERY YEAR
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AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION CELEBRATES THESE PROFESSIONALS AND WHAT THEY DO.I'D LOVE TO SIT HERE AND EXPLAIN TO YOU FOR HOURS ON WHAT THEY'RE INVOLVED WITH EVERYDAY.
BUT BAILEY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO GET A VIDEO PUT TOGETHER, SO WE WILL PLAY THAT WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR IT.
BUT WE DO APPRECIATE YOU HAVING US THIS EVENING AND IT REALLY IS A GOOD PUBLIC REPRESENTATION OF ALL THINGS THAT GET DELIVERED BEHIND THE SCENES.
I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS GROUP I'M VERY PROUD OF THE EFFORTS THAT THEY DO ALL YEAR LONG.
AND AS OUR DIRECTOR, THEY GO OUT EVERY DAY.
AND IF WE DON'T HEAR THINGS, THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
SO CONGRATULATIONS, GREAT WORK.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO EACH AND EVERY DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, ROUND THE CLOCK AND WE APPRECIATE THE PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING.
>> SURE, LET'S DO THAT. THIS WAS A BRIEF VIDEO THAT BAILEY AND THE TEAM PUT TOGETHER.
I WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO OUR PLANNING COMMITTEE THAT HAS PUT THIS WEEK'S ACTIVITIES TOGETHER.
BUT THIS IS ONE VIDEO THAT WE'D LIKE TO PLAY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
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>> I NEED SOME BACKGROUND MUSIC WHEN I READ PROCLAMATIONS.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE PANO SETTING TO GET EVERYONE HERE.
PROCLAMATION, NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, CONNECTING THE WORLD THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS.
PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES, AND SERVICES THAT ARE A VITAL IMPORTANCE TO SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, HIGH-QUALITY OF LIFE, AND WELL-BEING OF THE PEOPLE OF CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.
THESE INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES, AND SERVICES COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE HARDWORKING LEADERS AND COMMUNITY STEWARDS AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.
THESE DEDICATED MEMBERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REBUILDING, IMPROVING, AND PROTECTING OUR NATION'S TRANSPORTATION, SOLID WASTE SYSTEMS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS, OPERATIONS FLEETS, AND OTHER STRUCTURES AND FACILITIES ESSENTIAL FOR OUR CITIZENS.
IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST FOR THE CITIZENS, CIVIC LEADERS, AND VISITORS IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF AND TO MAINTAIN AN ONGOING INTERESTS AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAMS IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.
THE YEAR 2023 MARKS THE 63RD ANNUAL NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION.
BE IT NOW AS SINCERE THANK YOU IS EXTENDED TO ALL OF THE CITY PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS THAT DELIVER CORE SERVICES FOR THE 700 LANE MILES OF ROADWAYS, 800 PIECES OF FLEET EQUIPMENT, ONE MILLION SQUARE FEET OF CITY FACILITIES, 20,000 SOLID WASTE CUSTOMERS IN THE MANAGEMENT OF THE REGIONAL LANDFILL EACH AND EVERY DAY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THANKS TO YOU THE CITY IS IN GOOD HANDS AND WE APPRECIATE THE PRIDE YOU TAKE IN A NEVER ENDING WORK PROGRAM.
NOW, THEREFORE, I MAYOR BECKY DAGGETT, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 21ST THROUGH THE 27TH, 2023 AS PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA.
[APPLAUSE] [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER]
>> CAN YOU SEE COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS?
>> I ASKED HIM THE SAME THING.
>> COME ON JEFF. DON'T BE SHY. [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND].
>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] [BACKGROUND]
>> SHAWN, IS THERE A PERSON HERE FOR THIS?
>> IS LISA GAGNE WITH US TODAY? WELL, IT'S MY HONOR TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION FOR JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.
[6. Proclamation: Jewish American Heritage Month]
WHEREAS THIS MONTH WE CELEBRATE THE ENDURING HERITAGE OF JEWISH AMERICANS WHOSE VALUES, CULTURE, AND CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE SHAPED OUR CHARACTER AS A NATION.WHEREAS FOR GENERATIONS THE STORY OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE, ONE OF RESILIENCE, FAITH, AND HOPE IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY, PREJUDICE AND PERSECUTION HAS BEEN WOVEN INTO THE FABRIC OF OUR NATION'S STORY.
IT HAS DRIVEN US FORWARD IN OUR ONGOING MARCH FOR JUSTICE, EQUALITY, AND FREEDOM AS WE RECOMMIT TO UPHOLDING THE PRINCIPLES OF OUR NATION'S FOUNDING AND REALIZING THE PROMISE OF AMERICA FOR ALL AMERICANS.
WHERE AS FOR CENTURIES, JEWISH REFUGEES FLEEING OPPRESSION AND DISCRIMINATION ABROAD HAVE SAILED TO OUR SHORES IN SEARCH OF SANCTUARY.
EARLY ON THEY FOUGHT FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, HELPING DEFINE ONE OF THE BEDROCK PRINCIPLES UPON WHICH AMERICA WAS BUILT.
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UNION SOLDIERS CELEBRATED PASSOVER IN THE MIDST OF THE CIVIL WAR.JEWISH SUFFEROGATES FOUGHT TO EXPAND FREEDOM AND JUSTICE.
JEWISH FAITH LEADERS LINKED ARMS WITH GIANTS OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT TO DEMAND EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL.
WHEREAS THIS JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH LET US JOIN HANDS ACROSS FAITHS, RACES, AND BACKGROUNDS TO MAKE CLEAR THAT EVIL, HATE, AND ANTI-SEMITISM WILL NOT PREVAIL.
LET US HONOR THE TIMELESS VALUES, CONTRIBUTIONS AND CULTURE OF JEWISH AMERICANS WHO CARRY OUR NATION FORWARD EACH AND EVERY DAY.
LET US REDEDICATE OURSELVES TO THE SACRED WORK OF CREATING A MORE INCLUSIVE TOMORROW, PROTECTING THE DIVERSITY THAT DEFINES WHO WE ARE AS A NATION, AND PRESERVING THE DIGNITY OF EVERY HUMAN BEING HERE AT HOME AND AROUND THE WORLD.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT I, ON BEHALF OF BECKY DAGGETT, MAYOR OF FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY 2023 AS JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IN FLAGSTAFF.
CALL UPON ALL AMERICANS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HERITAGE AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF JEWISH AMERICANS AND TO OBSERVE THIS MONTH WITH APPROPRIATE PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES, AND CEREMONIES.
>> WE'RE MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 7,
[7. Consideration of Appointments: Board of Adjustment. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Make three appointments to terms expiring May 2025.]
CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, AND IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE HAS THE FIRST APPOINTMENT, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH ALL OF OUR APPLICANTS TODAY, AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS IS NOT AN EASY APPOINTMENT TO MAKE.
THEY ARE ALL EXCELLENT NOMINEES OR APPLICANTS AND ALL HAD A LOT OF GREAT THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THE UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES THAT THEY BRING AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY HAVE RELATED TO THIS COMMISSION.
IT'S MY HONOR TO NOMINATE DEVIN KELLY TO A TERM EXPIRING MAY 2025 FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
>> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, HOUSE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE APPLICANTS.
I WAS A LITTLE ILL THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, SO I DIDN'T MAKE ANY PHONE CALLS, BUT I RELIED HEAVILY ON COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSES COMMUNICATION WITH THEM, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE JED WEST DOVER, AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS ALREADY A PERSON ON THIS BOARD FROM THE SAME CONTRACTING FIRM.
I JUST WANT TO RE-EMPHASIZE BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
THAT IF THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTERESTS THAT THEY WOULD RECUSE THEMSELVES IN THE APPROPRIATE MANNER.
WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE JED WESTOVER.
>> THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY?
>> WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT JUST SPOKE TO ALL THREE OF THESE CANDIDATES ARE VERY QUALIFIED.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE JAMES MALONEY TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR A TERM EXPIRING ON MAY OF 2025.
>> THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.
>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE POINT ABOUT THE CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH JAMES THAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT.
ACTUALLY, BOTH HE AND DEVIN BOTH MADE GREAT POINTS TO SPEAK TO THE SERVICE THAT THIS BOARD OFFERS TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEIR DESIRE TO BE OF SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS JUST AN AMAZING THING.
TO HAVE APPLICANTS FOR ANY OF OUR BOARDS BRING UP AS THE HEART OF WHY THEY WERE DESIRING TO SERVE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO CALL THAT OUT, AND JED ALSO SPOKE TO THE EXPERIENCE AND UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES THAT HE BROUGHT AND WANTING TO BE OF SERVICE AND JOINED IN THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE COMMUNITY.
I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. THANK YOU.
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>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
WE ARE MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 8,
[8. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2023-28: A resolution of the Flagstaff City Council, approving an Intergovernmental Agreement between the City of Flagstaff and the City of Phoenix for recyclable materials processing. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: 1) Read Resolution No. 2023-28 by title only 2) City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2023-28 by title only (if approved above) 3) Adopt Resolution No. 2023-28]
CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-28, A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL APPROVING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND THE CITY OF PHOENIX FOR RECYCLABLE MATERIALS PROCESSING.>> GOOD AFTERNOON ONCE AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL SCOTT OVERTON, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
WE COME TO YOU THIS EVENING AS YOU RECALL, IN EARLY MAY, THE CITY HAD TAKEN POSSESSION OF THE BUTLER AND MATERIALS RECOVERY FACILITY AT 1800 BUTLER, AND WE RESUMED OUR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL COLLECTION SERVICE OF RECYCLABLES FOR THE COMMUNITY ON MAY 8TH.
IN THAT TIME PERIOD, WE HAVE BEEN DELIVERING OUR SINGLE STREAM RECYCLABLES TO THE CITY OF PHOENIX MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY IN NORTH PHOENIX AND THIS AGREEMENT AND IGA IS THE DOCUMENT THAT WILL EXECUTE THAT ACTION MOVING FORWARD.
THEY WERE KIND ENOUGH TO ALLOW US TO USE IT IN AN INTERIM BASIS UNTIL WE COULD GET TO COUNSEL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THIS IGA CREDIT TO THE CITY OF PHOENIX PUBLIC WORKS AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH US HAS BECOME STRONG AND THEY'VE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS TO DATE.
THIS IGA IS THAT ACTION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST TO FORMALIZE OUR DELIVERY OF THOSE MATERIALS IN THE INTERIM BASIS UNTIL WE CAN CONTINUE TO DEVELOP OUR LONGER-TERM STRATEGIES WITH DEALING WITH COMMUNITIES RECYCLABLES.
HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENT AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF PHOENIX FOR THEIR SWIFT WORK AND I BELIEVE THEIR COUNCIL WILL TAKE THIS UP FOLLOWING YOUR ACTIONS.
>> THANK YOU, SCOTT. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY HAS A COMMENT OR QUESTION.
>> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] HI, SCOTT.
I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR WHOLE TEAM OBVIOUSLY AS WE SAW EARLIER THAT DID A LOT OF HARD WORK TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN LICKETY SCOTT.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION AS I READ THROUGH THE PACKET, I NOTICED THAT THE RECYCLING CENTER IN PHOENIX, EXCEPT SOME THINGS THAT WE DID NOT, FOR INSTANCE, GLASS.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WILL YOU BE REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CHANGES AND AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN I HAVE OCCASION TO LOOK IN MY NEIGHBORS TRASH CAN FOR WHATEVER REASON.
[LAUGHTER] WELL, IF I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF RECYCLING, I DON'T BOTHER PUTTING MY WHOLE CAN OUT TO THE STREET.
MY NEIGHBORS SAYS, JUST PUT IT IN MINE.
BUT ANYWAY, GETTING BACK TO THE POINT, THEY'LL PUT THINGS IN THERE THAT DON'T BELONG IN THERE, LIKE PLASTIC SACKS AND THE LIKE.
ANYWAY, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY REACH OUT OF THE CHANGES IN WHAT'S ALLOWED GLASS, FOR INSTANCE, AND PLEASE DON'T PUT CERTAIN THINGS IN THERE, QUESTION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. EXCELLENT QUESTION AND OBSERVATION WITHIN YOUR READING MATERIALS.
YES, THE CITY OF PHOENIX DOES COLLECT SOME DIFFERENT PRODUCTS THAN WE HAD HISTORICALLY HERE AT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.
WE HAVE NOT ADVERTISED OR CHANGED OUR PRACTICE AT THIS TIME.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS, AS YOU'D MENTIONED, GLASS FOR EXAMPLE BUT IT IS SOMEWHAT PROBLEMATIC FOR COLLECTIONS, AND WHILE THEIR FACILITY DOES TAKE IT RIGHT NOW, OUR COMMUNITY DOES HAVE A GOOD BEHAVIOR OF SEPARATING THE GLASS OUT FOR DROP-OFF.
AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD PREFER THAT OPTION AS WE DO HAVE HIGHER COMMODITY VALUES AS THEY ARE SEPARATED AND THEN IT ACTUALLY BECOMES A WEIGHT ISSUE.
WE PAY BY THE TIME TO TRUCK THIS MATERIAL AND TO GET IT TO PHOENIX.
RIGHT NOW OUR COMMUNITY IS BEHAVING PRETTY WELL WITH SEPARATING THEIR GLASS AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT PRACTICE, AT LEAST IN THE INTERIM.
I THINK IN SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS, WE MAY CHANGE THAT GUIDANCE, BUT AT THIS TIME, WE ARE STICKING WITH WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY COLLECTED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND WE ARE NOT EXPANDING OUR PROGRAM TO DATE.
>> ANOTHER THING THAT JUST POPPED INTO MY MIND IS THAT, WE'RE, WE MEANING THE STAFF IS GOING THROUGH A PROCESS OF TRYING TO SEE A PERMANENT WAY OF DOING OUR RECYCLING, AND AT THAT POINT, WHICH MIGHT BE WORTH SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR FROM NOW, THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER ROUND OF CHANGES, SO WE DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THE PUBLIC TOO OFTEN.
>> I THINK WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
WE GET THAT REQUEST OFTEN, BUT IT REALLY IS GOOD PRACTICE TO KEEP THAT GLASS OUT FOR A LOT OF GOOD TECHNICAL REASONS.
BUT WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT IN A LITTLE MORE DEPTH AT THIS TIME, THAT FACILITY DOES COLLECT THAT MATERIAL ON-SITE, BUT WE, AS A COMMUNITY ARE DOING BETTER BY KEEPING IT OUT OF OUR MAINSTREAM.
YEAH, THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.
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>> SCOTT AND JUST TO PIGGYBACK A LITTLE BIT ON A COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, I'D ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS.
THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CONTINUATION OF SOME CONTAMINANTS THAT I'M AS GUILTY AS ANYBODY ELSE HAVE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS OF THINGS THAT I WAS THROWING AWAY THAT I THOUGHT WAS RECYCLABLE THAT'S NOT.
SINCE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY A PREMIUM DOWN IN PHOENIX, I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR US TO DO ANOTHER MARKETING PIECE, COLLATERAL PIECE TO THE RESIDENTS JUST TO REMIND ALL OF US WHAT REALLY GOES IN THE RECYCLABLE.
I CAN'T PUT MY COUCH CUSHIONS IN THERE I FOUND OUT YEAH.
[LAUGHTER] I JUST THINK ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE HAVING TO HAUL IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PHOENIX, THAT IF WE COULD JUST DO A REMINDER THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IN OUR COST OVERHEAD.
>> IT'S AN EXCELLENT COMMENT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.
WE ARE WELL AWARE OF CONTAMINATION RATES AND HOW THE COMMUNITY HAS RESPONSIBILITY TO DO BEST PRACTICES AND BEST BEHAVIORS, AND WE WILL OWN UP TO THE FACT THAT EVERY COMMUNITY GOES THROUGH THIS AND IT'S PRETTY CYCLICAL.
IN PARTICULAR, WITH RENTAL PROPERTIES OR COLLEGE TOWN, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME REPEATED NEEDS AND EDUCATION BUT WE HAVE TEAMED UP WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION, AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A PART OF ALL OF THE COMMUNITY TO GET TO BETTER PRACTICE AND YOU ARE SPOT ON, THE LESS CONTAMINANT AND THE LESS TRUE LANDFILL TYPE GARBAGE GOES IN THE RECYCLE, THE BETTER EVERYONE WILL BE.
THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE A GOAL.
IT'LL BE AMBITIOUS AND AS WE START TO DEVELOP OUR RESET, YOU WILL SEE THAT MESSAGING LOUD AND CLEAR.
>> HATE TO BEAT THIS TO DEATH, BUT WE HAVE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL DOWN THE STREET FROM ME.
AND I SAW THEY HAD IT OVERFLOWING WITH PLASTIC BAGS, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY INAPPROPRIATE.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS THAT AS A TARGET AUDIENCE YOU MIGHT FOCUS ON A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS.
AND MAYBE ASK THEM TO PUT SOMETHING UP IN THEIR SHORT-TERM RENTALS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE DELIBERATELY PUTTING THE WRONG STUFF IN.
I THINK IT'S JUST THAT THEY DON'T KNOW.
THANK YOU. THAT'S MY COMMENT. THANK YOU.
>> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCIL? I THINK YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE INVITED TO PUT YOUR RECYCLABLES IN YOUR NEIGHBOR'S CONTAINER ANYMORE.
>> I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE READ RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-28 BY TITLE ONLY.
>> ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
>> A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL APPROVING AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND THE CITY OF PHOENIX FOR RECYCLABLE MATERIALS PROCESSING.
>> ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
>> ANY OPPOSED? GREAT, THANK YOU.
[9. Consideration and Approval of Contract: Emergency Contract for the Purchase of Materials/Services with Joe Dirt Excavating, Inc. for emergency hauling services of commingled recyclables in an amount not to exceed $200,000. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Ratify Contract No 2023-130: Emergency Contract for the Purchase of Materials/Services with Joe Dirt Excavating, Inc. for emergency hauling services of commingled recyclables in an amount not to exceed $200,000; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the necessary documents.]
CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF CONTRACT.EMERGENCY CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF MATERIALS SERVICES WITH JOE DIRT EXCAVATING INC. FOR EMERGENCY HAULING SERVICES OF CO-MINGLED RECYCLABLES AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $200,000.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
SCOTT OVERTON ONCE AGAIN, YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
THIS ACTION IS RELATED TO THE LAST ITEM.
NOW THAT WE HAVE A PLACE TO HAUL OUR MATERIALS, WE'RE BACK TO COLLECTING.
NOW WE HAVE TO GET THEM THERE.
SO WE DID ENTER INTO THIS CONTRACT A FEW WEEKS AGO WITH A LOCAL CONTRACTOR, JOE DIRT EXCAVATING.
THEY HAVE BEEN UTILIZING OVER-THE-ROAD HAUL TRUCKS.
SO AS THEY COME IN OFF OF OUR GARBAGE COLLECTION VEHICLES, WE THEN LOAD THEIR OVER-THE-ROAD TRUCKS VIA CONTRACTED SERVICE, AND THEN THEY HAUL THE MATERIAL OF RECYCLABLES TO THAT MIRTH LOCATED IN NORTH PHOENIX.
THIS ACTION RATIFIES THAT PRACTICE THAT WE HAVE BEEN UTILIZING.
IT ALSO AUTHORIZES UP TO $200,000 TO BE EXPENSED.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE THIS PRACTICE UNTIL WE HAVE OUR NEXT CONTRACT OR ARRANGEMENT IN PLACE, HOPEFULLY WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE LONGEVITY AND A LITTLE BIT MORE NUANCED OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY AS WE START TO WORK THIS INTO ITS NEXT STEPS.
BUT THIS AGAIN WAS THAT EMERGENCY ACTION FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND WILL CONTINUE UNTIL WE HAVE THOSE NEXT CONTRACTS IN PLACE THROUGH YOUR APPROVAL.
>> THANK YOU, SCOTT. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
>> I MOVE TO RATIFY CONTRACT 2023-130.
>> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
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>> QUESTION. DO WE NEED TO ALSO DO THE AUTHORIZATION OR IS THAT TAKEN AS A SECOND MOTION?
>> I AMEND MY MOTION TO SAY THAT TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE AND MCCARTHY.
>> THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
>> WE'RE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 10,
[10. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2023-21: A resolution approving the filing of condemnation proceedings to acquire easements necessary for the Switzer Canyon Water Transmission Main Project, Phase IV. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: 1) Read Resolution No. 2023-21 by title only 2) City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2023-21 by title only (if approved above) 3) Adopt Resolution No.2023-21]
CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-21, A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FILING OF CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS TO ACQUIRE EASEMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE SCHWEITZER CANYON WATER TRANSMISSION MAIN PROJECT PHASE 4.>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
BRYCE DODI, REAL ESTATE MANAGER.
TODAY I'M ASKING TO BUMP THIS ONE.
WE NEED TO UPDATE SOME OF OUR LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS IN ORDER TO FILE THESE SUITS.
AND SO I'M EXPECTING TO BE BACK HERE WITH THIS ON THE JUNE 6 MEETING.
>> THANK YOU. DO WE NEED A MOTION TOO?
>> YEAH. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, EITHER A MOTION TO TABLE OR A MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL JUNE 6TH.
EITHER WAY, A MOTION TO TABLE IS FOR THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
>> SO I MOVE TO TABLE, EXCUSE ME, ITEM NUMBER 10.
>> ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
>> ANY OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER 11,
[11. Future Agenda Item Request (F.A.I.R.): A Citizens' Petition titled Heavy Industrial Adjacent to Residential Council direction. ]
FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUEST.A CITIZEN'S PETITION TITLED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
IS THERE ANY KIND OF STAFF DISCUSSION OR PRESENTATION?
I THINK WE'RE JUST SEEKING COUNCIL APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
YES, STACEY. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD?
THIS IS A CITIZEN PETITION THAT WAS RECEIVED AND WE'RE LOOKING TO COUNCIL TO PROVIDE ANY DIRECTION IF THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE A FURTHER CONVERSATION WITH POSSIBLE DIRECTION TO STAFF AT A LATER TIME.
>> GREAT. WELL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN COUNCIL CAN DISCUSS.
>> HI, THERE. MADAM VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TODAY.
SO I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE HAVING AT THE MOMENT WHERE WE GOT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL.
IT AFFECTS THREE NEIGHBORHOODS AT THE MOMENT.
SMOKE RISE, IT SMOKE RISE, AWKWARD PAINS, AND TREE-UP TRAILS AND RETREATS.
TRAILS AND RETREATS JUST BEEN BUILT RIGHT INTO THE EDGE OF THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
IT'S ALREADY CAUSING ISSUES BECAUSE OF AIR QUALITY, SOUND, VEHICLES.
WE'VE GOT OTHER PEOPLE SPEAK INTO IT, JOEL WEALTH WILL BE SPEAKING TO IT.
MICHELLE LINDQUIST WILL BE HERE SPEAKING TO IT.
WE DID HAVE A PETITIONING STAYING THAT WE'D LIKE DIFFERENT ROUTES.
SOME OF THOSE ROUTES ARE CLEARLY NOT ADVISABLE BECAUSE OF PICTURE CANYON RETREAT, PICTURE CANYON RESERVE AND PLACES LIKE THAT.
BUT ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS COMING OFF 89 BEHIND THE GAS STATION AND CUTTING UP INTO THE AREA, THAT WOULD BE ONE OPTION TO GET IT OUT OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
JOEL WEALTH WILL SPEAK TO THAT.
AND YOU'VE ACTUALLY GOT THE INFORMATION WE PASSED ON, SO YOU SHOULD SEE MAPS OF ALL THAT.
ALSO, THERE'S RECENTLY THE TOP OF THIS STREET, WHICH IS.
AT THE TOP OF EMPIRE ON MONDAY OF LAST WEEK, A DUMP TRUCK ROLLED OVER.
I DID HAVE A WHOLE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, BUT I WASN'T ALLOWED TO SHOW YOU THAT, OF DIFFERENT PICTURES OF THE PROBLEMS THAT PUTTING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND EXTRA RESIDENTIAL CAUSES.
I WILL SEND THAT INTO YOU THROUGH STACEY.
BUT THE TRUCK ROLLED OVER, IT CAUSED QUITE A BIT OF CHAOS AT THE TOP OF THAT ROAD AND THAT'S A ROAD THAT'S BEEN DESIGNED FOR CARRYING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL VEHICLES, WHEREAS OURS IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET.
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WHEN WE SEE THE FLOW OF VEHICLES, WE'RE SEEING SOMETIMES FOUR OR FIVE TRUCKS AN OUR COMING IN AND LEAVING THROUGH THESE RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND IT JUST IS NOT A GOOD FIT.JOELLE WORTH AND MICHELLE WILL SPEAK MORE TO THAT.
OUR PETITION ORIGINALLY WAS TO GET DIFFERENT ACCESS.
OUR MORPHED PETITION IS THE FACT THAT IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD FIT IN THE FIRST PLACE, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
WE SENT A COPY OF THAT EARLIER ON TODAY, WHETHER YOU'VE SEEN IT YET, I DON'T KNOW.
IT WAS IN THE NEWSPAPER TODAY ON PAGE 6 AND WE'RE JUST HOPING THAT WE CAN BE HEARD AND WE WANT TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING.
WE DON'T WANT A CLOSED CONVERSATION TO SAY HARD LUCK.
WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO KEEP SPEAKING.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I WAS THE SUBMITTER OF THE ORIGINAL CITIZENS PETITION AND THEN ALSO THE ALTERNATIVE ROUTES.
I TRIED TO COME TO THE COUNCIL WITH SOLUTIONS TO SEE IF WE CAN BRAINSTORM UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'VE GOT AN INDIVIDUAL THAT'S MADE IT'S SIZABLE INVESTMENT INTO HAVING THIS YARD IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT IN ADDITION, I WANTED TO RESPOND TO THE TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING SECTIONS COMMENTS.
I WENT THROUGH THOSE AND I APPRECIATE THEY TOOK THE TIME TO THE ROUTES THAT I SUGGESTED.
ROUTES 1 AND 2, I'M AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT THAT'S NOT A GOOD FIT, A LONGER ONE THAT WOULD BE BEHIND SPRUCE HILLS.
EVEN THOUGH IT ABUTS WHAT IS ALREADY HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
I UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS WITH PICTURE CANYON, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TRUCKS THAT GO THROUGH OLD ROUTE 66 AND GO THROUGH THAT OLD EL PASO AND CROSS THE RIO DE FLAG.
THEY JUST GO TO THE RIGHT OF THAT VERY NOISY EL PASO SUBSTATIONS.
IT'S QUESTIONABLE TO ME WHY THAT WOULDN'T ALREADY BE A GOOD FIT TO HAVE A TRUCK THERE, BUT IT'S LONGER AND MORE DUSTY THAT WOULD BE GENERATED AND THAT DUST WOULD ALL HEAD TOWARDS THAT AWKWARD PINE SUBDIVISION.
ROUTE 3, THEY MENTIONED IN THE TES REPORT THAT THE EASEMENT WAS NOT ABLE TO BE SECURED WITH DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRAILS AND RETREAT.
I THINK IT MAY BE WORTH A REVISIT TO SEE IF THERE COULD BE A DIFFERENT CONSIDERATION IF IT WAS JUST HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, PERHAPS THAT STRAIGHT SHOT THROUGH THE FOREST SERVICE BECAUSE IT ABUTS ALREADY HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
CARTER AND MARY'S CAFE IS A TRUCK STOP.
THERE IS NO ROAD ALIGNMENT AGAINST RESIDENTIAL AT ALL.
THAT TO ME SEEMS LIKE A BETTER SHOT.
IT DOES HAVE TO BE TALKED WITH FOREST SERVICE ABOUT THAT.
BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO AT LEAST REVISIT POSSIBLY.
THEN THE TES REPORT IDENTIFIED THAT A GRADIENT PERMIT HAD BEEN ISSUED FOR THE CONTRACTOR'S YARD, WHICH INCLUDED AS A STIPULATION THAT ACCESS TO AND FROM THE SITE WILL BE VIA THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED AGGREGATE ACCESS DRIVEWAY ONTO TRAILS END DRIVE AND DODGE.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THE ROAD IS FULLY CONSTRUCTED BECAUSE THE AGGREGATE DOESN'T GO UP TO THE TOP.
ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CONCERNS IS THE DUST, THE NOISE, THE VIBRATIONS THAT WE HAVE, THE HEAVY TRUCKS SHAKING OUR HOUSES THAT GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK THAT THIS ASSESSMENT NEEDS TO BE RE-EVALUATED.
THERE'S 12 HOMES THAT ARE ABUT TRAILS END DRIVE.
NINE THAT HAVE ACCESS IN 24 HOMES AND THE TRAIL'S END RETREAT THAT ARE ALSO IMPACTED BY THIS USAGE.
THE TRAFFIC ACCESS ASSESSMENT FROM THE TES REPORT FAILED TO IDENTIFY THAT WE HAVE THIS SACRED PEAKS HEALTH CENTER.
THAT PARKING LOT IS FULLY IN USE ALL THE TIME.
THE MANAGER OF THAT HEALTH CENTER SIGNED OUR PETITION AND TOLD ME HE CANNOT EXIT THROUGH THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> THANK YOU. COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR CONVERSATION WITH SACRED PEAKS?
>> THE SACRED PEAKS MANAGER SAID THAT HIM AND HIS STAFF AND THE CLIENTELE, BECAUSE OF THAT INTERSECTION AT 89 AND TRAIL'S END, IT'S HORRIBLE, YOU CAN'T TURN LEFT.
PEOPLE START ACCELERATING TO 45 AT MAVERICK, SO IT MAKES IT A VERY DIFFICULT TURN AT A LEFT TURN AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY.
HE SAID THAT ALL OF HIS STAFF, CLIENTS, AND THEMSELVES PREDOMINANTLY EXIT AND SHORT-CIRCUIT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT HAPPENED DURING COVID? THEY HAD THAT WHOLE PARKING LOT SETUP AND THE TRAFFIC FROM THE SACRED PEAKS BACKED UP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BLOCKING RESIDENTS DRIVEWAYS.
WE ALSO HAVE A BUS STOP THERE.
I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO BE RE-EVALUATED WITH THE USAGE BECAUSE PARK SERVICE HAS 39 PARKING SPOTS ON THE OTHER SIDE AND THAT WASN'T IN THE TES REPORT.
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I JUST THINK IT'S UNDERESTIMATED THE AMOUNT OF VOLUME THAT WE REALLY SEE ON THIS ROAD THAT NOW WE'RE MIXING WITH THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IN AS WELL. THANK YOU.>> I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I'LL WAIT FOR THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENTS.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, STAFF, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME THIS AFTERNOON.
FLAGSTAFF RESIDENT OF 46 YEARS.
WHAT A MESS WE HAVE ON OUR HANDS WITH THIS.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND MR. TODD'S POSITION.
HE BOUGHT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT WAS ON HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED.
THIS WAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS BROKEN OFF OF THE ORIGINAL MINE BY THE ORIGINAL MINE OWNERS, WHICH WAS JIM AND BONNIE CRICK.
SOMEHOW SOME WAY A DEVELOPER GOT THEIR HANDS ON IT YEARS AGO AND GOT AN EASEMENT THAT THEY NEEDED FROM THE BLINKERS, WHICH ON THE MIND, THE GREAT BIG MINE NEXT TO IT.
I UNDERSTAND MR. TODD'S POSITION.
I UNDERSTAND HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
I UNDERSTAND HE WANTS TO USE IT FOR WHAT HE PURCHASED IT FOR.
SECOND THING I UNDERSTAND SMOKE RISE POSITION.
THESE TRUCKS ARE GOING THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S A LOT OF BAD THINGS GOING ON OVER THERE WITH THESE TRUCKS.
SPEED, THEN GOING DOWN THE WRONG WAY.
THERE'S VIDEOS OF THIS, THE DUST AND JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, WHENEVER LIMESTONE IS CRUSHED, IT BECOMES A CARCINOGEN.
THIS DUST IS BLOWING OVER THE ENTIRE EAST SIDE OF TOWN AND MAYBE OTHER AREAS OF TOWN.
NOT TO MENTION CONCRETE THAT'S BEING CRUSHED.
OBVIOUSLY THESE TWO STONES THAT ARE BEING CRUSHED RIGHT NOW ARE NOT BEING CRUSHED UP THERE THEY'RE BEING CRUSHED IN THE BLEAKER PIT, WHICH IS SURROUNDED BY THIS.
WHEN THEY MOVE THIS CRUSHING FACILITY TO THE SIDE OF THIS MOUNTAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE BLOWING EVERYWHERE BECAUSE THE DUST IS ALREADY BLOWING EVERYWHERE.
THE RED DUST COATS ARE HOUSES.
I THINK THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE FOR THE ENTIRE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, IF NOT THE ENTIRE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.
THE ROUTES PROPOSED PICTURE CANYON.
I THINK THIS IS COMPLETELY OUT OF THE QUESTION WITH THE WILDLIFE, THE RECREATION, HORSE RIDERS, AND WE'VE EVEN SEEN CAMELS ON THAT THING.
THIS WAS PURCHASED WITH BOND MONEY, OPEN SPACE MONEY THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2004 TO PRESERVE THIS PROPERTY.
I DON'T THINK PUTTING ROADS THROUGH IT IS PRESERVING THIS PROPERTY.
I DEFINITELY WANT TO TRY TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION TO THIS AND I HAVE TALKED WITH MR. TODD AND ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY TO CONSIDER IS IF HE'S STILL WILLING TO DO THIS, HE WOULD BE WILLING TO IF HE COULD GET IT REZONED.
OBVIOUSLY, HE DOESN'T WANT ANY OF THIS COST COMING OUT OF HIS POCKET, BUT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE IT REZONED TO RESIDENTIAL.
I UNDERSTAND RESIDENTIAL IS NOT SUPPOSED TO GO UP AGAINST HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, BUT THE CITY JUST APPROVED TRAIL'S END UP AGAINST HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME HURDLES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE JUMPED OVER, BUT I THINK BETWEEN THE CITY AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT'S WILLING TO WORK ON THIS.
I JUST THINK THAT IT'S NOT, [NOISE] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU AGAIN THAT YOU WAITED THROUGH THAT ENTIRE MEETING ONLY TO FIND THAT THIS ITEM HAD BEEN POSTPONED.
>> NO WORRIES. IT WAS VERY EDUCATIONAL.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL.
I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND THE OWNER OF 108 EXCAVATING.
I DID BY TRAIL'S END HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LAND, INTENDED TO MOVE MY BUSINESS UP THERE.
WE HAVE A ROCK CRUSHING DIVISION THAT WE DO CRUSH CONCRETE AND VARIOUS OTHER NATURAL ROCKS IN TOWN.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO BECAUSE IT'S BESIDES THE FACT RIGHT NOW.
I FEEL FOR THE NEIGHBORS OF SMOKE RISE.
I AM VERY ADAMANT ON ALL MY TRUCKS TO FOLLOW ALL OF THE TRAFFIC PROCEDURES TO GO VERY SLOW THROUGH THERE.
I'VE RESEARCHED IT THOROUGHLY.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO A DIFFERENT ACCESS, BUT I JUST I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.
BUT I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I FEEL FOR THEM AND I'M OPEN TO WHATEVER SUGGESTIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE BUT I DO INTEND TO USE THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LAND AS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LAND.
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THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU. MICHELLE LINDQUIST.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TODAY.
MY NAME IS MICHELLE LINDQUIST.
I LIVE IN THE OAKWOOD PINE SUBDIVISION ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF SHEEP HILL.
WHEN WE DECIDED TO MOVE TO ARIZONA THREE YEARS AGO, WE FELL IN LOVE WITH FLAGSTAFF.
MY HUSBAND TAUGHT AS A CHAPLAIN AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE JUMPED INTO VOLUNTEERING AND WE LOOKED FORWARD TO SPENDING MANY YEARS HERE.
UNFORTUNATELY, IN JANUARY OF 2022, WE WERE MADE AWARE THAT IT IS NOT JUST FORESTRY LAND BEHIND US.
IT IS 20.6 ACRES OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LAND.
LAND THAT CAN BE USED FOR CREMATORIUM, PETROLEUM STORAGE, ROCK CRUSHING, AND PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING YOU DON'T WANT BY YOUR HOME.
IN THE FLAGSTAFF ZONING CODE FOR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LAND AT ESSENTIALLY STATES THAT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LAND SHOULD NEVER BE IN AN AREA WHERE IT WOULD NECESSITATE SUCH STRINGENT REGULATORY CONTROLS AND IT WOULDN'T CAUSE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES.
IT ALSO STATES THAT THIS DISTRICT IS FURTHER INTENDED NOT TO BY ANY RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
MY FAMILY AND I HAVE SPENT THE LAST YEAR-AND-A-HALF OF OUR TIME HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS HAS HAPPENED.
WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST 70 PLUS HOMES THAT ARE IMPACTED FROM THIS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
THERE'S A SEGMENT OF THE ARIZONA TRAIL THAT GOES TO THE PICTURE CANAAN PRESERVE AND IT'S ALSO ADJACENT TO US FORESTRY LAND.
IN OUR RESEARCH FOR THE LAST YEAR-AND-A-HALF, WE FOUND OUT THAT THE LAND WAS ANNEXED IN TO THE CITY FROM THE COUNTY.
MANY YEARS AGO IT LAID DORMANT BECAUSE OF THE INABILITY TO ACCESS IT.
THAT CHANGED IN 2021 WHEN AN EASEMENT WAS GRANTED AND SO ALL FOUR OF THOSE PARCELS THAT CREATE THAT 20 ACRES OF LAND ARE NOW ACCESSIBLE OR THEY'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT.
THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT ALSO URGED THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF THE LAND THAT BECAME TRAILS END TO REZONE THAT BECAUSE THEY KNEW WHAT A CONFLICT THAT WOULD CREATE.
THAT WASN'T DONE AND SO WE NOW HAVE THE TRAILS END SUBDIVISION WITH TRUCKS THAT ARE BEYOND EVEN THE WEIGHT LIMIT CAPACITY THAT ARE POSTED ON THE STREETS GOING THROUGH THOSE AREAS.
THE SAME THING FOR SMOKE RISE.
I KNOW FROM ALL THAT YOU WENT THROUGH WITH THE PICKLEBALL THAT YOU'RE VERY THOUGHTFUL AND YOU DON'T WANT THIS KIND OF SITUATION CREATED.
I KNOW I'VE EXCHANGED EMAILS WITH YOU MAYOR.
I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU ALL TO COME AND SEE OUR HOMES, SEE OUR YARDS.
THIS IS ABOUT MORE THAN NOISE AND NUISANCE.
THIS IS ABOUT HEALTH AND SAFETY.
WE HAVE A CHRONICALLY ILL CHILD WHO WE BASICALLY SPENT HALF HIS LIFE TRYING TO GET HIM BETTER.
I WAS AT PHOENIX CHILDREN FOR BREATHING ISSUES JUST TWO-AND-A-HALF MONTHS AGO, IT TOOK THEM SIX HOURS TO GET HIM BREATHING RIGHT.
WE'RE DOWNWIND OF EVERYTHING ON SHEEP HILL 60 OR 70 MILE AN HOUR WINDS AT TIMES.
WE JUST WANT TO ASK YOU TO VISIT, ASK YOU TO PLEASE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO LET HEAR US OUT AND LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN FIX THIS.
WE DO WANT TO ALL WORK TOGETHER AND TRY AND FIGURE IT OUT, BUT THIS IS DANGEROUS.
THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT NUISANCE AND NOISE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY?
>> WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK THERE'S TWO PARTS TO WHAT WE JUST HEARD THIS EVENING.
ONE IS, IS THERE A PROBLEM? THE OTHER IS, WHAT'S THE SOLUTION? I THINK I'M CONVINCED THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM.
WHAT IS THE SOLUTION? I HAVE NO IDEA.
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE REFER THIS TO THE TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING, OUR CITY STAFF, AND THEN ALSO TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND ASK THEM TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.
IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE DEPENDING ON WHAT THOSE STAFF AND THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION FIND THAT THEY MAY WANT TO GET SAVED.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION INVOLVED TOO, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT AT LEAST GO TO TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING, TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.
ASK THEM TO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL ON WHAT MIGHT BE DONE ABOUT THIS.
I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T THOROUGHLY UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM, ALTHOUGH I HAVE BEEN OUT IN THAT AREA.
THEN HAVE IT COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND DO WHATEVER SEEMS APPROPRIATE AT THE TIME.
THANK YOU. IF NOT, LET ME KNOW.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY,
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AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD FIRST STEP, AND THEN COUNCIL CAN HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO CONSIDER.ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON THAT? YES. SO WE JUST NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF.
>> OKAY. WE ARE TAKING STAFF'S RECOMMENDED ACTION ON THIS AND ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL SEE IT BACK IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU. WE ARE ADJOURNING THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING AND CALLING TO ORDER THE NEXT.
[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this work session, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]
PURSUANT TO ARS 31-431.02 NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT AT THIS WORK SESSION, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR LEGAL ADVICE AND DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY'S ATTORNEYS ON ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA.NEXT UP IS THE CITY MANAGERS REPORT.
[2. City Manager Report Information Only]
THE THEME OF THIS REPORT WILL CONTINUE WITH EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION IS A VERY NICE RECOGNITION OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES. [OVERLAPPING]
>> HI THERE GREG CLIFTON, YOUR CITY MANAGER. WELCOME.
>> CAN WE HOLD OFF ON THAT FOR A BIT? THANK YOU.
WOULD LIKE TO START WITH RECOGNITION OF SARAH LANGLEY AND SHAWN JOHNSON WHO MADE THE 20 UNDER 40 RECOGNITION.
WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THEM BOTH FOR DOING THAT.
THEY OF COURSE, BEING PART OF THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS SECTION AND A WONDERFUL PART OF THE CITY ORGANIZATION.
BRIGHT FUTURE IS AHEAD OF THEM.
YOU HAVE A NICE BLURB IN THE REPORT TALKING ABOUT THEM AND WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE THEM IN FRONT OF YOU AND IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY.
I'M GOING TO SKIP FOR A SECOND THE LEADER OF THE YEAR AWARDS AND TALK A LITTLE BIT.
THERE'S SOME UPDATES ON MEETINGS.
I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR JUST A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES, INCLUDING A NICE WALK ABOUT IN THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD A WEEK AGO AND CONTINUED WORK WITH THE CJCC.
WE HAD A NICE MOUNTAIN LINE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND BOARD JOINT MEETING.
A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, OF COURSE, WERE PRESENT THERE.
I WANTED TO NOTE LAST WEEK WE DID HAVE A FUN EVENT.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS SUITE FOR ATTENDING THE CHAMPIONS OF TEAM FLAGSTAFF.
THIS IS BACK ON MAY 10TH, HELPED ORCHESTRATE THE COME TOGETHER EVENT.
IT WAS NICE AS FIRST-TIME SINCE COVID THAT THE EMPLOYERS HAVE ALL GOTTEN TOGETHER WAS VERY HEARTWARMING.
WE WILL HAVE A NUMBER OF DIVISIONS HERE ARE REPORTING TO YOU WITH SOME UPDATES, INCLUDING ENGINEERING AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
I THINK WE WILL HAVE THEM LEAD OFF WITH THE MARCH AND APRIL UPDATE HERE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
THE APRIL UPDATE FROM ECONOMIC VITALITY AND THE APRIL-MAY UPDATE FROM PROSE.
YES. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE 20 UNDER 40 MEANS UNDER 40 FOREVER.
BEFORE WE GET INTO THOSE UPDATES.
IF WE CAN ASK FOR YOUR INDULGENCE HERE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SHOW A VIDEO HERE THAT SPEAKS TO A VERY IMPORTANT AND QUITE DISTINGUISHED AWARD THAT WE HANDOUT TO LEADERS OF THE YEAR.
THIS USED TO JUST BE FOR DIVISION HEADS.
WE'VE EXPANDED IT NOW TO INCLUDE LEADERS THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION.
THERE'S BEEN SOME EFFORTS TO ENCAPSULATE THIS WITHIN A VIDEO.
IT'S A PRETTY CHEESY VIDEOS, SO WE HOPE YOU ENJOYED IT. THANKS.
>> HI THERE, GREG CLIFTON, YOUR CITY MANAGER.
WELCOME TO YET ANOTHER CHAPTER OF GCTV.
[MUSIC] IN THIS EPISODE, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT UP AND DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING, I THINK YOU'LL LIKE IT.
THIS TIME OF THE YEAR WE TRY TO THINK REALLY HARD AND THOROUGHLY ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO BE OUR NEXT RECIPIENTS OF THE MARY JO ANN JENKINS LEADERSHIP AWARD.
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THIS IS GOING TO BE A SPECIAL TREAT FOR ALL OF YOU AS WE INTRODUCE NOT ONE BUT TWO RECIPIENTS OF THIS AWARD.NOW, THESE RECIPIENTS DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT'S ABOUT TO GO DOWN.
IT'S GOING TO BE A SURPRISE FOR THEM.
WE'RE GOING TO START OFF THOUGH BY INTERVIEWING SOME OF OUR PAST RECIPIENTS OF THIS VERY PRESTIGIOUS AWARD.
FOLLOW ME AND LET'S DO THIS THING.
>> HI SHANNON. CAN I BORROW JIN?
>> I WAS WONDERING IF I CAN STEAL JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES AND ASK YOU ABOUT THE MARY JO ANN JENKINS AWARD.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND IT WAS RIGHT OUT HERE.
YOU WERE AWARDED THE MARY JO ANN JENKINS AWARD.
[MUSIC] YOU WERE THE RECIPIENT OF A VERY PRESTIGIOUS AWARD CALLED THE MARY JO ANN JENKINS LEADERSHIP AWARD.
YOU WERE THE RECIPIENT OF THE MARY JO ANN JENKINS LEADERSHIP AWARD.
>> LET'S JUST PULL THIS OUT. LOOK AT THAT.
>> IT MEANT A LOT TO ME AT THE TIME, I WAS FAIRLY NEW TO THE ORGANIZATION.
I WAS NEW TO THE LEADERSHIP TEAM.
>> OH BOY, IT MEANT A TONE TO ME.
>> IT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT AWARD THAT I EVER RECEIVED IN MY 33-YEAR CAREER.
>> I WORKED WITH MARY JOE WHEN I FIRST STARTED AT THE CITY.
SHE WAS ONE OF MY ORIGINAL MENTORS.
IT WAS EXTREMELY MEANINGFUL IN THAT WAY BECAUSE SHE WAS SUCH A LEADER.
>> I LEARNED THAT SHE WAS NOT ONLY A SUPER FUN PERSON TO WORK WITH, BUT SHE WAS VERY KIND AND CONSIDERATE AND REALLY GOOD AT HER JOB.
>> I JUST SAW THE WAY PEOPLE LIT UP WHEN THEY THOUGHT ABOUT HER.
>> I KNEW SHE WAS A REAL LEADER IN THE ORGANIZATION AND ONE THAT YOU'D WANT TO MIRROR YOURSELF OF.
>> TO BE AWARDED AND HONORING HER NAME AND TO BE AWARDED SOMETHING FOR LEADERSHIP WHEN THERE'S SO MANY FANTASTIC LEADERS IN THIS ORGANIZATION, THAT REALLY MEANT QUITE A BIT TO ME.
>> I WAS EXCITED WHEN JOSH THOUGHT OF ME FOR THIS AWARD BECAUSE IF MARY JOE WAS THAT AMAZING, THEN ALL THE DIRECTORS OR LEADERS THAT ARE GETTING THIS AWARD MUST BE TOO.
>> TO BE AWARDED AND RECOGNIZED AND WIN AN AWARD AND RECOGNITION THAT'S IN HER NAME. IT'S PRETTY SPECIAL.
>> IT'S A WONDERFUL AWARD BUT WHAT IT SYMBOLIZES IS EVEN MORE MEANINGFUL.
EARLIER TODAY, WE HAD A GREAT GET-TOGETHER AT THE ORPHEUM.
THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT WE HAVE HAD A BRIEF GAP.
I THINK THE GAP, OF COURSE, BEING COVID, AND THE LAST TIME ALL THE EMPLOYEES GOT TOGETHER WAS BEFORE COVID.
THE IDEA OF CLOSING THE GAP IS BACK IN FRONT OF US AGAIN HERE, RIGHT NOW.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT CAREER ENHANCEMENTS, WE'RE HERE TO SURPRISE BOTH YOU BRANDY, AND YOU STACEY.
EVERYBODY HERE SHARES SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT IN COMMON.
IN ADDITION TO BEING LEADERS OF THE ORGANIZATION, EVERYBODY HERE HAS ALSO BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF A VERY PRESTIGIOUS AWARD, BEING MARY JOE JENKINS.
HEIDI, DO YOU WANT TO LEAD US OFF?
>> SURE. STACEY, LOOKING BACK TO 2021, THE CITY STACEY BRECHLER-KNAGGS, DEMONSTRATED THESE TRAITS WHEN SHE WORKED WITH THE FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT TO RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT FROM DIMA, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH A SAFER GRANT SUBMITTAL, REPRESENTED THE CITY ALONG WITH OTHERS TO ADDRESS INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THROUGH THE AMERICAN JOBS PLAN, HELPING THE CITY NAVIGATE THE RECEIPT AND EXPENDITURE OF AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, ARPA FUNDS, SUBMITTED MULTIPLE AIRPORT GRANTS.
THANK YOU. EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND RECOVERY ACTIVITIES FOR THE MUSEUM FLOOD AREA.
CONGRATULATIONS SPK ON BEING THE CITY'S LEADER OF THE YEAR FOR 2021.
WE'RE SORRY THAT IT'S TAKEN US THIS LONG TO GET THIS AWARD IN FRONT OF YOU,
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BUT YOU TRULY ARE MORE THAN DESERVING.>> CONGRATULATIONS SPK YOU DID A LOT OF TERRIFIC WORK AND JUST CONTINUE, SO THANK YOU.
I GET TO TALK ABOUT YOU BRANDY.
CELEBRATING 2022, YOU SERVED AS OUR INTERIM HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR.
RICK, I DID TRY TO STEAL HER BUT SHE WOULDN'T STAY.
[LAUGHTER] I GUESS FINANCE IS JUST IN YOUR BLOOD.
HIRING AND TRAINING NEW FINANCE STAFF, NEW PAYROLL STAFF, YOU HELPED US ONBOARD TWO HUMAN RESOURCES AND RISK MANAGEMENT DIRECTORS.
THERE WERE SOME AMAZING THINGS THAT HAPPENED ACTUALLY WHILE YOU WERE THERE.
SOME KEY POLICIES SUCH AS TELEWORK, THE REVAMP OF THE DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTING POLICY, OUR FELL OR EMERGENCY LEAVE, AS WELL AS COMP POLICIES, WHICH HAVE BEEN REALLY KEY WITH THE NEW IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT PAID PLAN.
ONE THING THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO CONQUER FOR YEARS IS TIERED BENEFITS AND YOU AND JARRET WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE EAC TO BRING A THREE-TIER BENEFIT PLAN AND MAKE THINGS MORE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE TO ENSURE THEY ARE FAMILIES, WHICH IS JUST INCREDIBLE.
IT NOT ONLY HELPS US BRING PEOPLE HERE, BUT IT HELPS US KEEP THEM, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING ON YOUR CREATIVITY AND INNOVATION IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN.
WE CAME BACK, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE HAD A GAP BECAUSE WE WERE ALL WORKING EITHER AT HOME OR IN THE FIELD BECAUSE OF COVID AND YOU REALLY HELPED US AS EMPLOYEES COME BACK TO THE BUILDING AND LEARN WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE AFTER COVID, A LOT OF US WEREN'T SURE WHAT TO EXPECT.
YOU ALSO WORKED WITH THE PAYROLL TEAM TO IMPLEMENT AN ELECTRONIC TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM, CRONOS, WHICH IS STILL GOING STRONG AND WILL BE HUGE FOR OUR ORGANIZATION.
AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT YOU BECAME THE FINANCE SECTION CHIEF OF THE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM AND JUST HAVE REALLY HELPED EMPLOYEES UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR COMPENSATION IS, WHAT THEIR BENEFIT IS, AND YOU WERE THERE TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS AND TO ENCOURAGE THEM ALONG THE WAY.
THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR 2022 LEADER OF THE YEAR AWARD.
>> WELL THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] IT'S REALLY COMPLETELY NOT EXPECTED AT ALL. WELL, THANK YOU ALL.
>> THE BOTH OF YOU, YOU FOR 2021, STACEY, AND YOU FOR 2022 BRANDY, ARE THE VERY FIRST NON-DIVISION HEAD RECIPIENTS OF THIS AWARD AND I JUST THINK THAT'S SO COOL.
I KNEW MARY JOE AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE LEADERSHIP TEAM.
ALL OF YOU, A LOT OF YOU HAVE BEEN RECIPIENTS AND WELL-DESERVED, AND I FEEL HONORED TO BE IN THAT GROUP WITH ALL OF YOU AND I LOVE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, TEAM FLAGSTAFF.
I'M A DEDICATED AND COMMITTED EMPLOYEE AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE THAT LIST OF STAFF AND EXPAND IT IN THE FUTURE.
BUT ANYWAY, SO THANKS FOR THE HONOR, I APPRECIATE THE SURPRISE AND ALL THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE FOR US.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE INTERIM HR DIRECTOR AND TO ASSIST WITH MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND THE BUDGET AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES WITH IT.
JUST THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.
I LOVE SERVING THIS COMMUNITY.
I LOVE BEING ABLE TO HELP SOLVE PROBLEMS, SO I'M VERY SOLUTIONS-ORIENTED.
IT'S JUST BEEN A GREAT TIME TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO THE MANY OBSTACLES WE FACE AS OUR CITY SO THANK YOU.
>> WELL, WE ARE HERE TO THANK YOU AND WELCOME YOU TO THIS AMAZING FAMILY.
IT'S A GOOD GROUP AND IT'S NOW EXPANDED TO INCLUDE THE BOTH OF YOU.
BARBARA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US FROM CAMP VERDE.
>> WELL, THANKS, GREG. [MUSIC] MANY OF THE POINTS, AGAIN, MANY OF THE PEOPLE SITTING AT THE TABLE WORKED WITH MARY JOE.
SHE REALLY WAS THE EPITOME OF PROFESSIONALISM.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHAT REALLY STRUCK ME ABOUT THIS MEETING TODAY IS SEEING THE EMOTION FROM BOTH STACEY AND BRANDY BECAUSE AS MANY AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A THANKLESS JOB MUCH OF THE TIME.
WE DON'T DO IT FOR THE RECOGNITION AND THE PRAISE BUT IT'S SO VALUABLE WHEN IT'S SO WELL-DESERVED AND EARNED, BECAUSE I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH BOTH OF YOU.
I KNOW YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.
I KNOW YOUR LOYALTY TO THE COMMUNITY.
FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, FROM AS WELL AS I KNEW MARY JOE, I THINK YOU TWO MORE THAN EXEMPLIFY
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ALL THE TRAITS AND CHARACTERISTICS FROM WHEN WE CREATED THIS AWARD, SO I JUST TRULY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SERVICE.>> WITH THAT THAT'S ANOTHER APP OF GCTV.
I HOPE YOU ENJOYED THIS GREAT EPISODE AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR AUDIENCE ON THAT BIG CONGRATULATIONS TO SPK AND BRANDY.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THEM IN THE ROOM, BUT IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE THEM COME DOWN AND SHARE ANY COMMENTS THEY HAVE WITH YOU OR VICE VERSA.
>> THANK YOU. I'M NOT GOING TO CRY ANYMORE.
[LAUGHTER] BUT I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SURPRISED US.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE ORGANIZATION, TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK HERE, REALLY, EVERYBODY DESERVES THIS AWARD, NOT JUST ME, BUT IT'S AN HONOR.
I KNEW MARY JOE PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY.
IT'S QUITE AN HONOR TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP AND BE RECOGNIZED.
THANK YOU AND THANKS TO MY FAMILY AND MY SISTERS OF THE HEART AND BROTHERS OF THE HEART ARE IN THE BACK MY DAUGHTER CAME.
IT'S NICE TO GET ALL THE SUPPORT FROM FRIENDS AND FAMILY. THANK YOU.
>> AGAIN, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR THIS AWARD, WE HAVE SO MANY AMAZING LEADERS AND JUST AN AMAZING TEAM, AND WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT THEM, SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, STACEY AND THANK YOU, BRANDY.
MOVING ON THEN, AND THANKS AGAIN FOR GIVING US SOME TIME WITH THAT VIDEO. IT WAS FUN.
I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER IF I MAY, TO A FEW DIVISIONS TO DO SOME REPORTING, AND AS MENTIONED, WE'LL KICK THIS OFF WITH CITY ENGINEERING.
I THINK PAUL RUDE MIGHT BE JOINING US HERE.
I KNEW THAT, TREVOR, AND I FORGOT.
I APOLOGIZE. TREVOR, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU.
>> IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
I'M TREVOR HENRY. I AM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ENGINEER.
IN YOUR PACKET, YOU DO HAVE A MONTHLY REPORT ON BEHALF OF ENGINEERING.
THERE IS A HEALTHY LIST OF PROJECTS.
WHAT I'M GOING TO DO THIS AFTERNOON IS JUST TOUCH ON A FEW AND GO OVER THOSE ITEMS. WE ALSO HAVE DAVID MILLIS, OUR DEVELOPMENT ENGINEER, HERE AS WELL, AND HE'LL GO OVER SOME OTHER ITEMS IN THAT REPORT, BUT I'LL START OFF WITH THE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
ON THE SCREEN, WE HAVE OUR MAP THAT WE USUALLY ACCOMPANY.
THE REPORT GIVES YOU SOME DOTS, SOME DIAMONDS, GIVES YOU IDEAS OF WHAT'S IN DESIGN AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN CONSTRUCTION.
THE FIRST PROJECT TO GO OVER IS THE BEULAH BOULEVARD EXTENSION AND REALIGNMENT.
THIS PROJECT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY.
WE HAVE EAGLE MOUNTAIN CONSTRUCTION, WHO IS OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK.
THEY STARTED ON APRIL 3RD, WHICH INCLUDED CLEARING AND GRUBBING AND REMOVAL OF TREES FROM THE SITE.
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE WORKING ON PROFILING OPERATIONS FOR THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.
WHAT THIS INVOLVES IS HEAVY EQUIPMENT TO GO IN AND ACTUALLY EXCAVATE THE REQUIRED TRENCHES.
IT'S NOT THE NORMAL EXCAVATOR HAMMERING THE ROCK AND THEN PULLING IT OUT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A BIG IMAGINE CHAINSAW THAT JUST GOES RIGHT INTO THE GROUND AND TAKES THE MATERIAL OUT PRETTY QUICK.
IF YOU GET A CHANCE AND YOU'RE AROUND THAT AREA, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK.
WE ALSO HAVE TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES AND FLAGGING OPERATIONS UP CURRENTLY.
THIS IS TO HELP WITH THE TRAVELING PUBLIC GOING THROUGH THE SITE, ENSURE SAFETY ON THEIR PART, AND SAFETY FOR THE CONTRACTOR.
WE DO HAVE WEEKLY E-MAIL NOTIFICATIONS THAT GO OUT TO PARTNERS OF THE PROJECTS AS WELL AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE INTERESTED.
THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE FLAGSTAFF DOWNTOWN MILE CONNECTIVITY PROJECT.
IN EARLY APRIL, APRIL 4TH, THE PROJECT TEAM MET WITH THE FEDERAL RAIL ADMINISTRATION, WHICH IS THE LEAD AGENCY ON THE INFO GRANT THAT WE HAD RECEIVED BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022.
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ON APRIL 7TH, WE HAD 30 PERCENT DESIGN PLANS SUBMITTED, AND THE CITY IS CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THOSE OVER.ON APRIL 19TH AND 20TH, CAPITOL STAFF HOSTED A TWO DAY DESIGN SCOPING MEETING WITH AMTRAK AND THE BNSF RAILWAY ON WHAT THE FLAGSTAFF STATION IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE.
ON APRIL 21ST, THE ADOT STATE TRANSPORTATION BOARD HAD AWARDED THE CITY OR THE PROJECT ITSELF FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF THREE MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT GRANT OR THAT FUND AWARD WILL HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE CITIES MATCHING FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT IN GENERAL.
ON APRIL 27TH, CAPITOL STAFF MET WITH THE DIRECTOR OF ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, JENNIFER TOTH, TO GO OVER PROJECT RELATED ITEMS AS WELL AS ITEMS THAT ADOT IS WORKING ON AS WELL.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE MAKING PREPARATIONS FOR OUR FIRST PUBLIC MEETING THAT WILL BE HELD SOME TIME IN JUNE.
WE WILL MAKE SURE WE HAVE PLENTY OF NOTIFICATION ON WHEN THAT WILL OCCUR SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN BE INVOLVED AND INFORMED.
THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE RIO TO FLAG PROJECT.
ON APRIL 18TH, WE WERE BEFORE YOU WITH CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 17.
THIS WAS A CHANGE TO OUR DESIGN CONSULTANT FOR WORK THAT WE ARE CONTINUALLY EVOLVING AND WORKING THROUGH WITH THE ARMY CORPS FOR COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT.
ON APRIL 25TH, STAFF WAS BEFORE YOU WITH A STATUS AND A PROJECT UPDATE PRESENTATION, AND THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE INVOLVED WITH WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THIS IS MORE OF AN UPDATE FOR YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
ONE OF THE ITEMS I WANTED TO MENTION WAS, LAST WEEK THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HELD A VIRTUAL MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS GROUPS THAT ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN THE PROJECT.
THE INTENT OF THAT PROJECT WAS TO GO OVER COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED ON THE DRAFT SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT DOCUMENT.
THOSE COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT WERE REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT WHERE FRIENDS OF THE RIO AND FRIENDS OF FLAGSTAFF'S FUTURE.
>> IS THAT MEETING SOMEWHERE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO VIEW? WAS IT RECORDED?
>> YES, YOUR HONOR. WE DID HAVE A RECORDING.
WE DID HAVE AN AUDIO RECORDING AS WELL AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ARMY CORPS TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT READY AND WE'LL PROVIDE THAT HERE SHORTLY.
>> THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING] EXCUSE ME.
COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS HAS A QUESTION.
>> I JUST NEED TO KNOW FOR THE MEETINGS THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS REGARDING THE REAL, THE ONES THAT ARE PUBLIC, HOW CAN WE FIND OUT WHERE AND WHEN THOSE MEETINGS ARE?
>> YOUR HONOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, ANY PROJECT MEETINGS, PUBLIC MEETINGS, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, OPEN HOUSES THAT WE DO WITH ANY OF OUR PROJECTS, WE TEND TO WORK THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER TO GET ANY RELEASES OUT, SOCIAL MEDIA, JUST TO ADVISE OF WHEN THE PROJECT WILL HAVE A MEETING AND THE DATE, THE TIME, AND THE LOCATION, AND WE TRY TO GIVE AS MUCH TIME AS WE CAN FOR EVERYBODY TO SCHEDULE THAT, AND MAKE SURE THEY CAN ATTEND AS NEEDED.
>> BECAUSE I MUST HAVE MISSED THE ONE YOU JUST HAD BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THAT, SO MAYBE I'M NOT ON THE RIGHT LIST OR MAYBE I'M NOT LOOKING IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT I'LL FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT THANK YOU.
>> YES. WE CAN SPEAK LATER AND THEN WE CAN MAKE SURE WE GET THAT INFORMATION OUT, BUT WE DID GO THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA TO ANNOUNCE THE MEETING AND WE DID GO THROUGHOUT OUR PROPER CHANNELS TO GET THAT OUT, BUT WE APOLOGIZE YOU MISSED THAT.
>> NO PROBLEM. I'M SURE I PROBABLY MISSED AN EMAIL BECAUSE I MISS SOME, BUT THANK YOU.
I'M NOT TOO GOOD WITH PHONES THESE DAYS.
I USUALLY JUST GIVE IT TO MY CHILDREN TO HELP ME AND TELL ME WHERE I NEED TO BE WHEN AND WHERE.
THE NEXT PROJECT TO GO OVER IS THE LONE TREE OVERPASS PROJECT.
AT THE BEGINNING OF APRIL, WE HAD 90 PERCENT DESIGN PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.
THESE PLANS REPRESENT WORK NORTH OF BUTLER AVENUE.
ON APRIL 4TH AND 5TH, CAPITOL STAFF HOSTED A TWO DAY WORKSHOP WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND THE LONE TREE PROJECT TEAM.
THIS MEETING WAS COORDINATION EFFORTS ON BOTH SIDES FOR ACTIVITIES RELATED TO BOTH THE LONE TREE AND THE RIO PROJECT.
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JUST MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS GOING TO WORK TOGETHER.THE PROJECT TEAM IS ALSO PREPARING CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES FOR WORK ON LONE TREE ROAD SOUTH OF BUTLER.
WE'RE ALSO EXPECTING THAT WORK TO BEGIN LATER THIS FALL AND THOSE ARE COORDINATION EFFORTS.
ON MAY 8TH, WE DID HAVE SOME DEMOLITION ACTIVITY GOING ON.
WE DID TAKE OUT A FEW STRUCTURES THAT WERE ACQUIRED AND HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR A WHILE, AND SO THOSE ARE NEEDED TO BE OUT OF THE WAY AS WE PROGRESS TOWARDS THIS PROJECT.
THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS AT BEAVER AND BUTLER AND BUTLER IN SAN FRANCISCO.
LAST YEAR WE DID A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON THESE TWO INTERSECTIONS AND OUR CONSULTANT HAD PREPARED THE INFORMATION AND PROVIDED TO US TECHNICAL REPORTS.
WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS ON THESE TWO INTERSECTIONS AT OUR RETREATS IN APRIL, ON APRIL 7TH, APRIL 27TH AND 28TH.
TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, THESE INTERSECTIONS HAVE BEEN INCLUDED AND FUNDED IN OUR FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM SUMMARY FOR FISCALS YEAR '24 AND '25, SO THOSE HAVE BEEN ADDED.
STAFF ANTICIPATES THAT WE WILL APPLY FOR A SAFE STREETS FOR ALL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.
>> JUST YESTERDAY I WITNESSED A SEMI-TRUCK NEGOTIATING THIS AREA AND HAD A VERY DIFFICULT TIME.
WHEN WE MAKE THESE PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS, ARE THEY GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED SO THAT A VERY LARGE TRUCK COULD MAKE THE TURN DIFFERENTLY THAN CARS WILL, THEY REFLECT RAISED AREAS, BUT BE ABLE TO GO OVER THE RAISED AREAS OR WHATEVER SO IT'S POSSIBLE TO TURN A BIG TRUCK DOWN THEM? FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE WERE A MOVING VAN FOR SOMEONE THAT WAS MOVING.
>> YOUR HONOR, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS, TEMPLATES ARE USED FOR TURNING MOVEMENTS AND THEY USE SEMI-TRUCKS, THEY USE LARGE VEHICLES, DOUBLE AXLE, SINGLE AXLE VEHICLES, AND SO THIS TEMPLATE IS OVERLAID ON THE INTERSECTION AND THEY SEE WHERE THE TRAILING PART OF THE VEHICLE GOES OVER THE POTENTIAL CURBS, RAMPS.
THEN WE START LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY MODIFYING THESE FOR EITHER A ROLE TYPE OF CURB THAT CAN ALLOW FOR THE BACK TIRES TO TRAVERSE OVER SAFELY.
AGAIN, THIS NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED, BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS.
>> THANK YOU, TREVOR. I APPRECIATE THAT.
FOR THIS GRANT, THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL WE DO HAVE TO SUBMIT THOSE BY JULY 10TH.
AND IF AWARDED, THE CURRENT FUNDING THAT'S IN THE PROJECT WILL GO TOWARDS THE MATCH.
LAST ITEM FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT IS WE HAVE TALKED WITH OUR CONSULTANT AND WE HAVE REQUESTED A PROPOSAL FOR A FULL DESIGN OF BOTH INTERSECTIONS, SO THOSE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
THE LAST PROJECT FOR CAPITAL IS THE SOLIERE AVENUE TRANSMISSION MAIN PROJECT.
THIS IS A 12 INCH WATERLINE ON SOLIERE AVENUE FROM APPROXIMATELY 4TH STREET DOWN TO THE BUTTERFIELD APARTMENTS ON SOLIERE.
THIS CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WAS AWARDED AT COUNCIL ON MAY 2ND, AND WE WILL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION TENTATIVELY IN JUNE AND BE COMPLETE POSSIBLY IN OCTOBER.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD AS IT WILL SUPPORT FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THE BUTLER CORRIDOR.
WITH THAT, I WILL LET DAVID DO HIS PART.
>> TREVOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND MAYOR, THANK YOU.
IS THERE A DESIGN GOING ON FOR THE BUTLER RAISED BICYCLE PATHS? I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>> YOUR HONOR, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
THE BUTLER AVENUE RAISED BIKE LANE PROJECT IS WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT PROJECT PART OF A BIGGER CORRIDOR FOR BUTLER THAT WE'RE RESEARCHING CURRENTLY.
WE DO ANTICIPATE MAKING A REQUEST TO A CONSULTANT FOR 15% FEASIBILITY, CONCEPTUAL PLANS FOR WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE FROM MILTON DOWN TO SAWMILL.
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WE ARE STRATEGIZING HOW WE CAN PACKAGE THOSE TOGETHER.BASICALLY YOU GET THE THE BEST VALUE FOR A CORRIDOR PLAN OR A CORRIDOR SECTION. DOES THAT HELP?
>> ARE YOU LOOKING AT A WEEK FROM NOW OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW?
>> WE DID MAKE A REQUEST TO THE CONSULTANT A WEEK AGO AND WE'RE HOPING TO SEE SOMETHING MAYBE IN MID-JUNE FOR A PROPOSAL ON THE 15%, THEN POSSIBLY WE CAN STRATEGIZE AND PACKAGE EVERYTHING TOGETHER ALONG BUTLER TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET A BIGGER PROJECT THAT IS MORE VIABLE AND POTENTIALLY WE COULD APPLY FOR GRANTS.
>> I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M DAVE MILLIS, A DEVELOPMENT ENGINEER.
I'M HERE TO JUST TO PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE ON SOME OF THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING MANAGED BY DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING AND OUR ENGINEERING INSPECTION STUFF.
IN ADDITION TO OUR ONGOING REVIEWS OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE MAKING THEIR WAY THROUGH VARIOUS STAGES OF PLANNING AND IDEAS ENTITLEMENT PROCESS.
OUR PROJECT MANAGERS CURRENTLY HAVE ONE SUBDIVISION UNDER ENGINEERING PLAN REVIEW AND EIGHT SITE PLANS ENGINEERING PLAN REVIEW, CURRENTLY ONGOING.
ALL OF THESE ARE A SNAPSHOT WHEN THE REPORTS GO OUT AS SOME FALL OFF ON THE APPROVAL PHASE, NEW ONES ARE ALWAYS COMING IN.
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE 12 SUBDIVISIONS IN CONSTRUCTION OR WAITING PERMITS AND 13 MAJOR SITE PLAN PROJECTS THAT ARE ALSO EITHER IN CONSTRUCTION OR WAITING PERMITS.
THOSE ARE BEING MANAGED BY OUR DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING PROJECT MANAGERS AS WELL AS INSPECTED BY THE ENGINEERING INSPECTION STUFF.
THEN IN YOUR PACKET, I DID GIVE A QUICK LIST OF ALL THE PROJECTS, BUT I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THOSE WITH YOU JUST FOR TIME TODAY.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THEM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.
WE DID DO ONE HIGHLIGHTED PROJECT.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF 4TH STREET IN BUTLER, THE PROJECT THAT'S NOW CALLED ILLIQUID MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING, WHICH I BELIEVE WHEN IT CAME THROUGH WAS CALLED FLAGSTAFF AT FOURTH, HAS BEGUN CONSTRUCTION UNDER AN AT-RISK GRADING PERMIT.
THEY'D BEEN APPROVED BY STAFF AND ARE GOING THROUGH SIGNATURES NOW.
THAT PROJECT HAS 224 UNITS, MULTIFAMILY RENTAL, AS WELL AS THE 6,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE WITH IT.
THE PROJECT DID HAVE CASH IN LIEU CONTRIBUTIONS THAT ARE GOING TOWARDS THE CAPITAL BUTLER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
THEY WON'T BE HAVING THE ORDINARY CONSTRUCTION OF FRONTAGE IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THEY CONTRIBUTED CASH IN LIEU THAT WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE CAPITAL PROJECT AT THAT FRONT EDGE.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE UNLESS YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, TREVOR AND DAVID.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT REPORT, WE WILL SHIFT IN GO TO ECONOMIC VITALITY.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS DAVID MACINTYRE, COMMUNITY INVESTMENT DIRECTOR HERE AT THE CITY.
I WILL BE FILLING IN FOR HEIDI HANSON FOR THE MOMENT TO GO OVER ECONOMIC VITALITY'S MONTHLY REPORT WITH YOUR INDULGENCE.
I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS.
HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO PERUSE IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT STUFF IN THERE.
BUT A FEW THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT.
THE AIRPORT PAID PARKING SYSTEM IS COMING ALONG.
WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
I BELIEVE THE ANTICIPATED START DATE IS STILL JULY 1 AND THEY ARE COORDINATING A LOT OF CONTRACTORS AND THE TYPES OF DETAILS THAT GO INTO THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS ARE INTENSE.
STILL WORKING TOWARDS IT, BUT EXCITED TO GET IT THERE.
ALSO AT THE AIRPORT ARE EMPLOYMENTS AND TOTAL OPERATIONS ARE STAYING REALLY STRONG.
EVEN WITHOUT UNITED OUT THERE, WE'RE SEEING REALLY GOOD NUMBERS AND THAT IS EXCITING.
ALSO, I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK WITH OTHER AIRLINES IN
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CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HOPE THAT WE CAN BRING A MORE COMMERCIAL SERVICE TO FLAGSTAFF SOON.WHAT'S EXCITING IS OUR HISTORIC ROUTE 66 TRAIL.
YOU CAN SEE OUR VERY OWN CREAG ZNETKO ON A BIKE RIDE, YOU TOOK A PICTURE, WE PUT IT IN MONTHLY REPORT, NOT SURE HE WAS PLANNING FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT IT WORKS OUT NICELY THAT WAY.
THAT REALLY IS A BEAUTIFUL MONUMENT IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO DRIVE BY THAT ONE'S FAR OVER TOWARDS I40 ON THE WAY OUT OF TOWN PAST PICTURE CANYON.
BUT THERE WERE THREE THAT WERE PUT TOGETHER.
AGAIN, THESE WERE USING BBB FUNDS, BED, BOARD, AND BEVERAGE FUNDS.
THOSE FUNDS ARE ONLY AVAILABLE FOR BEAUTIFICATION, SO I KNOW THERE WERE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT USE OF FUNDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THIS HAS BEEN A LONGSTANDING ROUTE 66 PLAN.
THIS PLAN HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A LONG TIME AND THIS ACTUALLY FINISHED IT OUT AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND I THINK THEY TURNED OUT GREAT.
ALSO ON THE EXCITED AND IT TURNED OUT GREAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO GO BY THE AIRPORT AND SEE THE NEW FENCE THAT WENT IN, THE COCONINO SCROLL.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT HOW THAT CAME OUT.
THE MEDALLIONS, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY BE INTERPRETED AND WE'LL TIE TO VARIOUS WHIMSICAL IMAGES WITHIN THE FENCE WILL BE GOING IN LATER, BUT THE FENCES UP, WE'RE GOING TO BE RELEASING THE BROCHURE BEFORE LONG AND SO FAR IT'S BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED BY EVERYBODY WHO HAS TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT AND I'M JUST THRILLED WHEN I GO BY.
FLOWERS AND ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, IT IS STARTING TO BE WARM OUT AND THAT IS REALLY EXCITING BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE TRANSFER THE BEAUTIFUL EVERGREENS WHICH HAVE TREATED US WELL IN OUR DOWNTOWN INTO THE FLOWERS WHICH WILL BE COMING SHORTLY.
I DO BELIEVE THOSE ARE PLANS TO GO IN OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
YOU'LL SEE THE ALLEY CLOSURE BEGIN SHORTLY WITH SOME OF THE PIECES THAT WILL MAKE SURE THE TRAFFIC DOES NOT FLOW IN AND OUT AND THEN THE FLOWERS WILL GO AND YOU'LL SEE THE TREES START TO BE REMOVED AND THE FLOWERS GOING IN ALL SHOULD BE DONE BY MID-JUNE.
IT DOES FEEL LATE SOMETIMES BECAUSE IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL OUTSIDE, BUT THEY DO WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A FROST TO COME THROUGH AND TAKE OUT ALL THE BEAUTIFUL FLOWERS THAT JUST WENT IN.
THIS IS ALL VERY METICULOUSLY PLANNED WITH OUR CONSULTANTS FOXGLOVE WHO ARE FANTASTIC AT THIS WORK AND OUR BEAUTIFICATION ARTS AND SCIENCE TEAM, AS WELL AS OUR PARTNERS WITHIN THE EURO, WHO ARE MANY INTERNAL TEAMMATES AND THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE.
WE'RE ALSO REALLY EXCITED WE HAVE THE NEXT PHASE OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL CABINETS COMING FORWARD.
THERE ARE FIVE NEW LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THIS STARTED OUT AS A PILOT A FEW YEARS AGO, IT'S BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED AND I THINK THE ART IS JUST GETTING BETTER, AND NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM OUR FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT THIS YEAR'S SUBMISSIONS AND THE LOCATIONS ARE REALLY EXCITING SO THAT IS COMING SOON TO A UTILITY BOX NEAR YOU.
>> EXCUSE ME, DAVE, I THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS HAS A QUESTION.
>> THANK YOU. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE TREES THAT WE TAKE OUT?
>> I BELIEVE THIS YEAR, WE'RE PLANNING THAT PUBLIC WORKS AND PROS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THEM ALL.
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT AT SOME POINT THAT WON'T BE THE CASE, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO CONTINUALLY ABSORB THAT MANY FOREVER, BUT SO FAR WE'VE FOUND USES FOR ALL OF THEM.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT VARIOUS INSTANCES SUCH AS AN EARTH DAY CELEBRATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN WIN THE TREES THAT COME OUT WHERE THEY CAN BE DONATED FOR PLANTING.
THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT THE RIGHT WAY TO PROVIDE THAT NEXT CHAPTER FOR THOSE TREES IS.
BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT AND I'D LOOK TO OUR PROS AND PUBLIC WORKS FRIENDS, YES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE THEM WITHIN THE PROS TEAM THIS PARTICULAR SEASON AND WE'LL BE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AGAIN IN THE FUTURE, SO THEY DON'T GO TO WASTE.
>> I'M ASSUMING THAT WE DON'T JUST THROW THEM AWAY.
>> WE CAN'T GIVE THEM TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS BECAUSE OF SOME GIF THING OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW.
>> IN THE FUTURE, AS MENTIONED, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS MAKING SOME A PRIZE SITUATION OR A GIFT SITUATION.
I THINK WITH TREES, THERE'S PROBABLY A WAY THAT WE COULD STRUCTURE IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT WOULDN'T BE HIGH-RISK, BUT I LOOK TO THE ATTORNEYS TO HELP US WITH THAT, BUT I THINK WE'LL FIND A WAY TO BRING THOSE OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND HELP THEM HAVE THAT NEXT LIFE.
>> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. PARKFLAG, THIS IS OUR SPRING CLEANING.
WE ARE GOING THROUGH AND PRETTY MUCH TOP TO BOTTOM, EVERY ONE OF THE KIOSKS.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT SEXY LIKE AN ART FENCE, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
THE NUMBER OF CONTACTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE WITH THOSE EVERY DAY IS SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY SO WE ARE IN FULL SPRING CLEANING MODE THAT'S ALSO INVOLVED EVERYTHING FROM MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS FUNCTIONING PROPERLY,
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WE DO A FULL MAINTENANCE PIECE, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING AN ADDITIONAL TOP TO BOTTOM CLEANING THAT WE'RE HEADING INTO RIGHT NOW.I WILL SAY THAT PARKING STATISTICS FROM LAST MONTH, APRIL WAS ABOUT 9% HIGHER IN TERMS OF PAY TO PARK THAN IT WAS THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
WE LOVE TO THINK THAT'S PROOF THAT THE DOWNTOWN CONTINUES TO GROW AND EVOLVE AND THAT THE PARKING DISTRICT IS FUNCTIONING WELL AND THAT PEOPLE ARE PARKING.
YOU'VE HEARD SOME RECOGNITIONS EARLIER, WE HAVE A COUPLE THAT WE'D LIKE TO SHARE AS WELL, CREAG ZNETKO, WHO WAS PREVIOUSLY UP THERE IN A BIKE HELMET AND A MONUMENT, ALSO RECENTLY BECAME CERTIFIED AS AN ARIZONA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONAL, THAT MEANS THAT EVERYBODY IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS AN AED PRO.
CREAG, JOHN, JACK, MYSELF, AND HEIDI RIGHT THROUGH THE LINE AND IT IS REALLY AN EXCITING THING TO HAVE HIM HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THAT.
WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT TEAM CONTINUING TO DO GREAT THINGS.
ALSO, JACK FIDGET, WHO IS OUR BUSINESS TRACTION MANAGER, YOU ALL KNOW AND LOVE HOPEFULLY.
HE IS THE YOUNGEST BOARD MEMBER EVER FOR THE ARIZONA ASSOCIATION OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STATEWIDE COMMITTEE, SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF BOTH OF THEM.
WE ALSO HAVE JUST UPDATED OUR WEBSITE.
WE WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU'D GO TAKE A LOOK AT CHOOSEFLAGSTAFF.COM.
THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES IN THERE.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK, BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO HELP CONTINUE TO DRIVE BUSINESS TO OUR PROSPEROUS COMMUNITY.
INNOVATE WASTE CHALLENGE HAPPENED IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF APRIL, SO WE WERE IN OUR FULL GO MODE DURING THIS MONTHLY REPORT.
WE DID HAVE SOME EXCITING WINNERS THAT WILL BE ANNOUNCED AT THE NEXT ONE, JUST BECAUSE IT WAS IN MAY AND WE ALSO WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT THE STEM CITY OF FLAGSTAFF STEM CELEBRATION WENT OFF VERY WELL.
IN TERMS OF LIBRARY STATISTICS, YOU CAN TELL THAT THE DOOR COUNT WAS UP BY ALMOST 50%.
IT SHOWS THE ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR LIBRARY, IT'S VERY EXCITING.
PROGRAM ATTENDANCE HAS UP BY 200%, SO REALLY AMAZING STUFF GOING ON WITH THE LIBRARIES.
THERE WAS ALSO A JOB FAIR THAT DOWNTOWN LIBRARY HOSTED ON APRIL 14TH AND FOUR DIFFERENT WORKSHOPS LED BY HUMAN RESOURCES LIBRARY STAFF AND ADDITIONALLY, SOME CRAFT NIGHTS, REALLY ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY WITHIN THAT MOST LOVED OF SPACES.
IN THE EAST FLAGSTAFF LIBRARY, THERE'S A TEAM PARTY THAT TRUE 33 DIFFERENT ATTENDEES FOR GAMES, TEMPORARY TATTOOS, STATIONS FOR MAKING CRAFTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WHEN IT COMES INTO OUR TOURS OF METRICS, WE DID ACTUALLY SEE A SLIGHT DECREASE FROM LAST YEAR THAT IS PROBABLY INDICATIVE OF THE FACT THAT LAST YEAR WAS RECORD-SETTING FOR VISITATION.
WHEN YOU'RE COMPETING WITH RECORD-SETTING YEARS, IT IS SOMEWHAT NORMAL TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN EBB, AND WE HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM SOME OF OUR HOTELIERS AND OTHER TOURIST ATTRACTIONS THAT SOME OF THE ESCALATION IN COSTS IS AFFECTING HOW LONG PEOPLE ARE STAYING, SO WE'LL BE WATCHING THAT CAREFULLY.
I KNOW DISCOVER FLAG IS WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH ALL THE AMAZING SKILLS THAT THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DRIVE VISITATION.
WE DID NOT HAVE ANY NEW FILM PERMITS IN APRIL, BUT WE HAVE SEEN 52% GAIN IN FOLLOWERS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, SO PART OF THAT CONTINUING TO KEEP FLAGSTAFF TOP OF MIND.
VISITOR SERVICES, ALSO SIGNIFICANT INCREASES, YOU'LL SEE A TREND AND EVERYTHING AND DIFFERENT ITEMS LIKE WATER SERVICES, SCAVENGER HUNTS, INDIGENOUS ART MARKETS.
THESE KINDS OF EVENTS ARE BRINGING PEOPLE FORWARD AND HELPING THEM TO ENGAGE WITH OUR VISITOR SERVICES CENTER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND PARTNERSHIP AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT SOME OF THESE HIGHLIGHTS TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU, DAVE. COUNCIL, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
>> THANKS, DAVE. LASTLY, COUNCIL, WE HAVE REBECCA WITH PROS.
OR IS IT STILL AFTERNOON? LET'S SEE, SO I GOT TWO MONTHS FOR US TO GO THROUGH.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO SKIP THIS PART RIGHT HERE WHERE SOMETIMES MY TEAM MAKES ME WRITE STUFF FOR THEM.
[LAUGHTER] ENJOY THAT AS YOU MAY. THIS IS REALLY BIG.
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NOW YOU CAN'T SEE IT. THIS IS OUR TYPICAL TRAIL COUNTS.YOU CAN SEE THE DAILY AVERAGES ARE LISTED HERE.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS PRETTY STANDARD SO YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE THIS TYPE OF CHART EVERY MONTH AND COMPARE.
I WILL POINT OUT YOU'LL SEE THE RIO DE FLAG TRAIL RIGHT HERE, THAT'S AN INACTIVE TRAIL COUNTER, IT'S NOT THAT NOBODY WAS DOWN THERE.
IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT TRAIL COUNTER OUT OF THE SOFTWARE.
YOU WILL SEE THAT IN MAY AS WELL.
MOST OF THIS APRIL REPORT IS OLD STUFF, BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT SMART IRRIGATION A LITTLE BIT.
THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONFUSION OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, ESPECIALLY RELATED TO CAPITAL PROJECTS, ONE EXAMPLE BEING HERE AT CITY HALL ON THE FRONT LAWN.
I'VE HEARD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT WATERING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS WE DO HAVE A SMART IRRIGATION SYSTEM THROUGHOUT, I WOULD SAY, 95 PERCENT OF OUR PARKS.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SITES THAT IT'S HARD TO GET TO BECAUSE OF ELECTRICAL ACCESS.
BUT SMART IRRIGATION MEANS THAT THE SYSTEM ITSELF CHECKS WHETHER IT TURNS ITSELF OFF, WE'RE ABLE TO PROGRAM IT, IT REDUCES OUR RUNOFF, AND IF SOMEONE CALLS US, WHICH HAPPENS A LOT, AND LETS US KNOW THAT SOMETHING IS WATERING WHEN THEY THINK IT SHOULDN'T BE, WE CAN CHECK IT.
OFTENTIMES IT'S A BROKEN IRRIGATION LINE OR A HEAD THAT'S STUCK.
WE CAN TURN IT OFF WITH A PHONE SO PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT OR EARLY MORNING HOURS TO GO OUT AND TURN THAT OFF.
WE CAN THEN LOG IN AND GET UP AND FIX IT.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL IS AWARE OF THAT.
THE SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE ENHANCED THROUGH THE NORESCO PROJECT THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
WE'RE EXCITED TO WORK WITH SUSTAINABILITY FOR THAT.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF THOSE SYSTEMS. SUPER EXCITING, I'M SURE FOR YOU.
BUT THIS IS THE APP THAT GOES WITH IT THAT WE HAVE ON OUR DEVICES AND HELPS US TRACK AND MONITOR OUR USAGE.
MOVING ON, ANOTHER EXCITING ADDITION IS THAT WE, AND WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION AND PICTURES IN MAY, THAT WE'VE INSTALLED A COMMUNITY GARDEN OVER AT THE HAL JENSEN CENTER IN COOPERATION WITH SUSTAINABILITY.
THEY HAD A NEED TO MOVE THEIR ISABEL GARDEN.
THIS IS A GREAT TEMPORARY LOCATION.
IF IT GOES WELL, MAYBE IT BECOMES PERMANENT. WE'LL SEE.
WE'RE TAKING REGISTRATIONS FOR ADULT SOFTBALL AND ADULT VOLLEYBALL.
OUR OPEN SPACE STAFF FOUND A NEED AND FILLED A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY TO GET TOGETHER OUTDOOR EDUCATORS.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE IN FLAGSTAFF DOING THIS WORK, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T ALL JUST STEPPING ON EACH OTHER'S TOES AND GOING AFTER THE SAME PARTICIPANTS IN CONSTITUENTS.
OUR STAFF HOLD THEM TOGETHER AND THEY GOT A GREAT TURNOUT.
THEY'VE HAD SOME GREAT CONVERSATIONS.
THESE CONVERSATIONS WILL BE CONTINUING.
I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO DECIDE RIGHT NOW HOW OFTEN THEY NEED TO MEET, BUT ALSO TALKING ABOUT WHERE THEY CAN STORE AND STOCKPILE LESSON PLANS THAT WE CAN ALL USE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEN I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS LAST WEEKEND.
WE HAD OUR ANNUAL KIDS TO PARKS DAY.
THIS IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NATIONAL PARK TRUST.
WE TRIED SOMETHING DIFFERENT THIS YEAR.
OUR EVENTS TEAM PUT TOGETHER A GEO-CACHING EVENT, WHERE THEY HID LITTLE TREASURE CHEST OUT AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THEN YOU CAN USE YOUR PHONE TO GO FIND THE COORDINATES AND THEN GET A STAMP OUT OF THAT TREASURE CHEST.
THAT'S APRIL. I PROMISED I WOULD DO BOTH REPORTS IN FIVE MINUTES.
FIRST OFF, FOR MAY, I WANT TO SEND OUT A SINCERE CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR OWN CRYSTAL WARDEN-GANT WHO WAS RECENTLY PROMOTED.
SHE'S BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR 28 YEARS AS A RECREATION COORDINATOR AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS, AND SHE WAS RECENTLY PROMOTED TO RECREATION SUPERVISOR AT THE HAL JENSEN RECREATION CENTER.
SHE'S WELL-KNOWN OVER THERE, AND THIS IS A GREAT FIT.
WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE HER PROMOTED.
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WE HAVE SOME NEW TEAM MEMBERS IN PARKS.THESE TWO GENTLEMEN LISTED HERE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING WITH US AS TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND NOW THEY ARE FINALLY FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBERS.
WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE THEM PERMANENTLY JOIN OUR TEAM.
TRIAL COUNTS CONTINUE TO INCREASE.
OF NOTE HERE, JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT PICTURE CANYON AND MCMILLAN MESA BRIDGE HERE IN THIS YELLOW, THOSE TWO LOCATIONS CONTINUE TO INCREASE AS THE WEATHER WARMS UP.
BUFFALO PARK, WE KNOW IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE POPULAR, BUT IT'S FUN TO SEE FOLKS GETTING OUT TO OUR OPEN SPACES AS WELL.
YOU GUYS ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS TOPIC, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO MOVE RIGHT ALONG.
AS I MENTIONED, REGISTRATIONS ARE OPEN.
I DID WANT TO CALL OUT, WITH SOME DEFERRED MAINTENANCE FUNDS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, MEANING FISCAL YEAR '23, WE WERE ABLE TO BUY TWO NEW SCOREBOARDS FOR THE THIRD PART COMPLEX.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE HERE.
WE WILL GET THE OTHER TWO DONE IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
IT'S NICE TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS LIKE THAT, AND THEY ARE NOTICED BY OUR COMMUNITY, FOR SURE.
HERE'S SOME PICTURES OF THAT COMMUNITY GARDEN GOING IN OVER AT HAL JENSEN.
I KNOW YOU'RE SUPER INTERESTED THAT SWIM LESSONS ARE STARTING UP AND REGISTRATION IS OPEN NOW.
WE'VE HAD SOME VOLUNTEER EVENTS OUT AT OUR OPEN SPACES.
WE GOT THESE KIDS OUT THERE WITH SHOVELS, ACTUALLY LEARNING HOW TO BUILD TRAILS, HOW TO BE RESPONSIBLE, HOW TO DEAL WITH DRAINAGE ON TRAILS, AND LEARNING LEAVE-NO-TRACE PRINCIPLES.
WE'RE TRYING A FEW NEW THINGS ON OUR REPORT THIS MONTH.
YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE ADDED SOME SOCIAL MEDIA METRICS HERE.
WE DO CONTINUE TO SEE A CONTINUING INCREASE IN OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE AND LIKES OR FOLLOWERS OR WHATEVER YOU CALL THOSE THINGS.
I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR, BUT OUR TEAM IS AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE ARE EXCITED TO BRING BACK CONCERTS IN THE PARK THIS SUMMER.
WE'RE GOING TO VARIOUS LOCATIONS.
YOU CAN SEE THIS SCHEDULE HERE.
FOR THIS MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, WE ARE TRYING TO PULL TOGETHER A CALENDAR OF EVENTS IN THE UPCOMING MONTH, AND THESE ARE EVENTS THAT EITHER WE PERMIT OR WE'RE [INAUDIBLE].
MOVIES ON THE SQUARE IS STARTING THIS WEEKEND. THAT'S EXCITING.
YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF ACTIVITY HERE ON HERITAGE SQUARE.
THAT'S THANKS TO OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE, REALLY BRINGING A LOT MORE PROGRAMMING FORWARD.
WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THEM ON KIDS SQUARE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS IN JUNE AND JULY.
WHAT ELSE DID I WANT TO MENTION? A NEW EVENT COMING FORWARD THIS YEAR IS THE PRIDE PARADE.
THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THEIR EVENTS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, BUT THEY ARE BACK THIS YEAR AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING A PARADE, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.
THEY WILL BE USING THE TYPICAL PARADE ROUTE THROUGH DOWNTOWN, CLOSING THE STREETS ON JUNE 17TH, THAT'S A SATURDAY. IT'S ALL PERMITTED.
EVERYTHING WE'RE WORKING WITH PD AND EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE SAFE.
BUT WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE THAT THAT'S A NEW PARADE THAT'LL BE HAPPENING.
I WILL STOP THERE UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> THE VICE MAYOR HAS A QUESTION.
>> YEAH. REBECCA, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THE CITY HAS A SOFTBALL TEAM THEY'RE PUTTING TOGETHER.
>> ARE YOU WILLING TO HEAD US UP AND BE OUR CAPTAIN?
>> YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SAY NO.
>> NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY WITH ME, BUT THAT'S FINE.
>> WE'LL BE IN TOUCH. WELL, NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY WITH ME EITHER BECAUSE I CLOSE MY EYES AND RUN AWAY FROM THE BALL, AS MY TEAM WILL TELL YOU.
WE'LL BE IN TOUCH, VICE MAYOR.
TRANSPARENCY FROM THE DAY. [LAUGHTER]
>> I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, REBECCA AND TEAM.
>> THANK YOU, REBECCA. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
COUNCIL, YOU GAVE US A LOT OF YOUR TIME TODAY.
IT'S ALWAYS FUN TO GIVE YOU THESE UPDATES AND COMING ON THE CUSP OF SUMMER, THERE'S A LOT TO TALK ABOUT.
MAYOR, I AM GOING TO TURN IT BACK TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU. WE'RE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 3,
[3. Flagstaff Emergency Operations Plan Development On March 13, 2023 the City Council approved a Consulting Services Contract with EM Partners. EM Partners will utilize the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Comprehensive Preparedness Guide (CPG) 101 – Developing and Maintaining Emergency Operations Plans to guide our development of the City of Flagstaff Emergency Operations Plan (EOP). They will ensure the plan aligns with the National Incident Management System (NIMS), the Coconino County EOP, which EM Partners is currently updating, and the Arizona State Emergency Response and Recovery Plan (SERRP), in order to accurately reflect operational relationships between governmental levels. As part of CPG 101, FEMA outlines a six-step planning process which is flexible and adaptable to the specific needs of jurisdictions. Our team will follow this planning process, while applying national standards for planning in our approach, and creating the EOP to be both aligned with these standards and unique to the City of Flagstaff. These steps, 1) Project Scoping and Management, 2) Data Collection and Analysis, and 3) Plan Development will inform our streamlined and systematic approach to supporting the City of Flagstaff EOP development project.]
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FLAGSTAFF EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN DEVELOPMENT.>> CAN I GET MY TEAM DOWN THERE?
>> HAVE I EVER SEEN YOU IN A DRESS?
>> YES. I USED TO WEAR THEM ALL THE TIME, BUT THEN NOW I'VE GOT THIS EMERGENCY MAN.
>> I DON'T KNOW. IT'S WEIRD THAT I LIKE WEARING DRESSES AND ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMERS, HUH?
>> SORRY IF THAT QUESTION SEEMED WEIRD.
>> NO, NO, NO. IT WASN'T AT ALL.
I'M GOING UP ON THE INNERVATION TOMORROW, SO I'M BACK IN UNIFORM TOMORROW.
[LAUGHTER] IT'S THAT FUN DRESS STYLE.
WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER A LONG TIME, SO IT'S ALL GOOD.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, STACEY BRECHLER-KNAGGS.
I'M THE GRANTS, CONTRACTS, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.
I'M EXCITED TOO BE HERE WITH OUR CONSULTANT, EM PARTNERS, ASHLEIGH MAKUCH, THAT'S BEHIND ME, ALONG WITH DANIEL KELLY OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER IN THE COUNTY IS RIGHT BEHIND ME.
ALSO, WES DISON IS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE COUNTY AND TIM CARTER IS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR WITH THE COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
THEY JUST WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND ARE FINALIZING AND WE'RE STARTING.
IT'S PRETTY EXCITING TIME FOR US AT THE CITY AS WE GEAR UP OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
WITH THAT, I'M REALLY GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ASHLEIGH AND SHE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS AT THE END. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M A CONSULTANT WITH EM PARTNERS AND WILL BE THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT LEAD FOR THIS EOP DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR THE CITY.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, EM PARTNERS IS AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CONSULTING FIRM BASED IN VIRGINIA.
I'M BASED HERE IN ARIZONA AND MY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCES HERE IN ARIZONA, BOTH WITH COCONINO COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS WITH THE ARIZONA DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
I'LL BRING ARIZONA SPECIFIC PLANNING EXPERTISE TO YOUR PROJECT.
WE'LL HAVE PLANNERS AND SUPPORT FROM OUR EM PARTNERS TEAM, FROM OUR VIRGINIA BASED FOLKS AS WELL.
I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND ON WITH IMPORTANCE OF AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN AND WHY FLAGSTAFF NEEDS AN EOP, AND REALLY WHY THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE CITY.
AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN IS REALLY THAT FOUNDATIONAL KEY DOCUMENT FOR AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
ALL OTHER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANS AND PROCEDURES AND OPERATIONS WILL TIE BACK TO YOUR EOP.
IT'S REALLY A GREAT TIME NOW WITH STACEY AND DANIEL EXPANDING THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE CITY TO BE ESTABLISHING THIS EOP AS THE BASIS FOR THE ENTIRE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE CITY.
THIS WILL BE AN ALL HAZARDS AND ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITY DOCUMENT.
I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT I MEAN BY THAT BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO KEY TERMS THAT WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION AND THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE PROCESS WITH THE EOP.
WHEN WE SAY ALL HAZARDS, THIS PLAN WILL NOT BE A WILDFIRE PLAN OR A FLOODING PLAN OR A WINTER STORM PLAN.
IT WILL BE ALL HAZARDS IN ORDER TO ENCOMPASS THE CAPABILITIES AND FUNCTIONS THAT THE CITY AND ITS PARTNERS HAVE TO LEND TO EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND RECOVERY OPERATIONS FOR ANY EMERGENCY.
THAT'S THE WAY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND STATE GOVERNMENT AND COUNTY GOVERNMENT ALSO PLAN AND SO WILL BE ALIGNED WITH THAT ALL HAZARDS APPROACH IN ORDER TO PLAN FOR ANY POTENTIAL DISASTER OR EMERGENCY THAT MAY IMPACT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND HOW THOSE PARTNERS WILL RESPOND.
THEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, YOUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN IS A HIGH LEVEL DOCUMENT.
IT WILL IDENTIFY WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT.
IT WON'T BE TACTICAL INFORMATION AND TACTICAL CHECKLISTS AND DETAILS, IT WILL BE THE BASIS FOR THOSE HOWEVER.
ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THIS EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN, THEN IT WILL BE UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL DIVISIONS TO THEN BUILD THEIR PROCEDURES AND CHECKLISTS TO ACCOMPLISH THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE DETAIL IN YOUR EOP.
WE'LL REALLY EMPHASIZE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS IN ORDER TO GET THE RIGHT LEVEL OF INFORMATION FOR YOUR PLAN.
THEN WE ALSO JUST HAVE THIS PLAN IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO STREAMLINE YOUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS, TO HAVE MORE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT OPERATIONS WHEN YOUR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE CLEARLY DEFINED AND EVERYONE'S BEEN TRAINED AND EXERCISED ON A PLAN, YOUR RESPONSE IS GOING TO GO MUCH SMOOTHER NATURALLY.
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IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT YOUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS TRAINED UP ON THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, WE NEED TO FIRST DETAIL THESE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE DOING.THEN LIKE I SAID, THE COUNTY, THE STATE AND FEDERAL PROGRAMS, ALL TAKE THIS ALL HAZARDS AND ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES APPROACH FOR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLANNING AND WE'LL BE MAKING SURE TO ALIGN YOUR PLAN WITH EACH OF THESE PLANS.
WE'RE JUST FINISHING UP IN PARTNERS CONTRACTED WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL WITH WESTERN TEAM AND THEIR TEAM TO DO THEIR EOP AND WE'LL BE MAKING YOUR EOP MODELED RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT SO THAT IT MIRRORS THE TRUE OPERATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS THAT THE COUNTY AND THE CITY HAVE, AS WELL AS WITH STATE AND FEDERAL GUIDANCE AND PLANS AS WELL.
ULTIMATELY, OUR GOAL IN DEVELOPING THIS EOP FOR YOU IS TO PROVIDE A DOCUMENT THAT HELPS CITY EMPLOYEES AND PARTNERS AND MAKES FLAGSTAFF A SAFER PLACE TO BE.
THAT'S REALLY THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF THIS EOP IN YOUR EM PROGRAM IS LIFE SAFETY FOR THE CITY AND SO WE'LL BE ACHIEVING THAT WITH THIS PLAN.
THERE'S ALSO ONE OTHER POINT HERE WITH THE EOP.
THERE ARE CERTAIN GRANT ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIRE HAVING AN EOP IN PLACE FOR SOME OF THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GRANTS AND HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS.
THAT WILL BE A BENEFIT OF HAVING THIS PLAN IN PLACE AS WELL.
THIS GRAPHIC HERE SHOWS WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE PLANNING UNIVERSE AS PART OF THE COCONINO COUNTY'S EOP UPDATE EFFORT.
WE WORKED WITH THEIR TEAM TO DEVELOP THIS.
THEIR TEAM DEVELOPED THIS FANTASTIC GRAPHIC THAT WE'RE USING TO SHOW WHERE YOUR EOP AND WHERE YOUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT EFFORTS FIT IN THE BIGGER PICTURE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
WITH THIS, YOU'LL SEE A REPRESENTATION OF THE PHRASE WHICH YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD INCIDENTS BEGINNING AND LOCALLY.
WHAT WE REPRESENT HERE IS THE INCIDENT STARTING WITH THE SUN AND THEN GOING OUT FROM THE LOCALS THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING AND OWNING AN INCIDENT.
THEN THAT COUNTY LEVEL OF SUPPORT, STATE SUPPORT, AND FEDERAL SUPPORT.
WITH THIS, THIS IS WHERE WE WILL ALIGN ALL OF YOUR PLANNING EFFORTS WITH THE COUNTY, THE STATE, AND THE FEDERAL EFFORTS.
YOU HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING YOUR PLAN WILL SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE AS THE COUNTY PLAN, AS WELL AS THE STATE PLAN AS I WAS THE AUTHOR OF BOTH OF THOSE.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THESE MESH VERY WELL.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE CITY OF SEDONA AND CITY OF PAGE ON THIS GRAPHIC.
WITHIN COCONINO COUNTY, THESE THREE LOCAL PLANETS HERE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE THEIR OWN STANDALONE EOPS THAT ARE EITHER IN DEVELOPMENT OR ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
ALL OTHER JURISDICTIONS INCORPORATED WITHIN COCONINO COUNTY FALL UNDER THE COUNTY'S EOP.
IT'S REALLY GREAT TO SEE SOME OF THESE LOCAL EFFORTS BUILDING AND BUILDING MORE ROBUST EM PROGRAMS. THAT REALLY STARTS WITH THIS EOP EFFORT.
THEN WHEN YOU SEE THE LIST ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS GRAPHIC, STARTING WITH CHECKLIST, THIS REALLY IS A REPRESENTATION OF WHAT EACH OF THESE PLANETS WILL HAVE IN SUPPORT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS. STARTING WITH FEMA AND THE PRESIDENTIAL POLICY DIRECTIVE 8, WHICH ESTABLISHED THE NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS GOAL.
WE HAVE THAT AS REALLY THE FOUNDATION FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS AND PLANNING.
AND THEN BEYOND THAT, EACH LOCAL COUNTY AND STATE ENTITY HAS THEIR OWN POLICIES, PLANS, PROCEDURES, AND CHECKLISTS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT PREPAREDNESS GOAL.
LIKE I MENTIONED, THIS EOP WILL BE THAT FOUNDATIONAL PIECE FOR THE CITY TO START BUILDING THEIR PROCEDURES AND CHECKLISTS ON TOP OF THE PLAN IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE OVERALL THE EOP ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE'LL OUTLINE.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO USE THIS GRAPHIC TO REPRESENT AGAIN, WHERE THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF COP IS IN THE LARGER SCHEME OF THINGS WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
YOU WON'T HAVE AN EOP THAT'S IN A SILO, WE'LL BE DEVELOPING THE COP TO ALIGN WITH MANY OTHER THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPACE AND REPRESENTING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS THE CITY HAS WITH THE COUNTY, THE STATE, AND WITH FEMA.
I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A PROJECT OVERVIEW, JUST FOCUSING ON WHAT OUR SCOPE OF WORK IS FOR THIS EOP DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
OF COURSE, OUR GOAL IS TO DEVELOP YOUR ALL HAZARDS ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES DOCUMENT AS YOUR EOP FOR THE CITY.
THIS WILL INCLUDE DIVISION SPECIFIC ANNEXES, WHICH I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IN A FEW SLIDES.
BUT IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL, WE'VE OUTLINED OBJECTIVES.
WE'VE STARTED WITH KICKOFF MEETINGS, WHICH WE'RE DOING THIS MONTH, BOTH INTERNALLY WITH THE EM TEAM AND THEN HERE PRESENTING TO YOU ALL.
THEN WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO THE BROADER PLANNING TEAM NEXT WEEK AS WELL.
WITH THAT, ONCE WE KICK THAT OFF, WE'LL START WORKING WITH THE EM TEAM TO COLLECT ANY EXISTING POLICY OR PROCEDURE DOCUMENTS THAT MIGHT
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HAVE ANY TIE TO THE EOP IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALIGN WITH EXISTING CITY DOCUMENTATION.WE'LL ALSO CONDUCT STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS WITH KEY CITY LEADERSHIP AND DIVISION HAS THAT WE MAY NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM IN ORDER TO DOCUMENT THOSE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT AREN'T DOCUMENTED YET.
THIS THIRD BULLET HERE, EMAP, THAT'S THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ACCREDITATION PROGRAM.
WHAT THAT IS IS AN INTERNATIONAL ACCREDITATION PROGRAM STANDARD.
IT'S A SET OF 66 STANDARDS THAT JURISDICTIONS CAN USE TO ASSESS THEIR PROGRAMS AND GAIN ACCREDITATION.
WHILE THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS NOT SEEKING THIS ACCREDITATION AT THIS TIME, IT'S A GREAT BEST PRACTICES TOOL FOR US.
IT HAS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF ITEMS THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN.
WE'LL USE THAT IN ORDER TO INCORPORATE THOSE INTERNATIONAL BEST PRACTICES AND LESSONS LEARNED INTO YOUR PROCESS AND PLAN.
THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO REALLY THE CORE OF WHAT THIS PROJECT WILL INCLUDE IS OUR PLANNING MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS WITH OUR DIVISION HEADS AND THEIR TEAMS AND OUR OVERALL PLANNING TEAM.
IN DOING THAT, WE'LL GATHER ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A BASE PLAN WHICH WILL BE THE HIGH LEVEL ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND OVERALL STRUCTURE OF YOUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS, AS WELL AS THOSE DIVISION SPECIFIC ANNEXES, WHICH WE'LL DIG IN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON THOSE DIVISIONS, SPECIFIC ROLES, AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
THEN TOWARDS THE END, ONCE WE'VE DEVELOPED THE DRAFT PLAN, WE'LL HAVE A REVIEW PERIOD FOR THIS PLANNING TEAM TO PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK ONCE AGAIN, BEFORE WE FINALIZE THE PLAN AND BRING IT BACK TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
THOSE ARE THE STEPS THAT WE'LL TAKE IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE YOUR EOP DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THIS DONE BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
BUT ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SUMMER FIRE AND FLOOD SEASON MIGHT BRING AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO ADJUST, SO WE'LL BE FLEXIBLE WITH THAT.
BUT WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON, GIVEN THAT WE'LL NOT HAVE ANY CRAZY DISASTERS GOING ON, STARTING THE BULK OF OUR WORK IN JULY.
THAT'S WHEN WE'LL REALLY START DIGGING IN WITH THE DIVISION HEADS AND THEIR TEAMS AND HAVING PLANNING WORKSHOPS.
TO BUILD OFF OF THE PLANNING UNIVERSE IDEA AND THIS LIST OF PLANNING GUIDANCE THAT'S OUT THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALIGN WITH.
I MENTIONED THE COUNTY EOP WHICH IS BEING FINALIZED NOW UP FOR APPROVAL BY THE BOARD IN I BELIEVE TWO WEEKS.
THEN ALSO THE STATE EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND RECOVERY PLAN WILL REALLY BE MODELING YOUR PLAN AFTER THESE TWO DOCUMENTS PRIMARILY.
THEN THAT NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS GOAL WITHIN THAT ESTABLISHES THE FIVE MISSIONARIES OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, PREVENTION, PROTECTION, MITIGATION, RESPONSE AND RECOVERY WE'LL BE FOCUSING ON THE RESPONSE AND RECOVERY PIECES FOR YOUR EOP.
THE CAPABILITIES THAT THAT OUTLINES AS FAR AS WHAT FUNCTIONS ACHIEVE THOSE RESPONSE AND RECOVERY GOALS.
THERE'S A FEMA COMPREHENSIVE PREPAREDNESS GUIDE ONE TO ONE, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO PAUSE? IS IT SORRY.
>> THE INTERNET IS DOWN AND WE DON'T HAVE STREAMING.
STAFF WHO WERE ONLINE CANNOT SEE US.
THERE WON'T BE A RECORDING OF THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING.
BUT WE ARE LEGALLY STILL ABLE TO CONTINUE ON AND WE'RE GOING TO.
STERLING, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT?
>> NO, MAYOR, JUST THE FACT THAT THE STATUTE REQUIRES 24 HOURS POSTING TO ALLOW PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO QUOTE ATTEND, UNQUOTE.
FOR THAT REASON YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE PEOPLE COULD COME DOWN HERE AND ATTEND IN PERSON IF THEY WANTED.
>> THANK YOU. APPARENTLY, CITY CLERK USED HER DATA PLAN TO TELL PEOPLE
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ONLINE THAT WE WOULDN'T BE CONTINUING ONLINE AND THEY COULD COME DOWN HERE IF THEY'D LIKE.SORRY ABOUT THAT. PLEASE CONTINUE.
I'LL GO OVER A BIT OF THE PLANNING GUIDANCE.
THIS IS ALL IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE PLANNING UNIVERSE GRAPHIC THAT YOU SAW.
AS I MENTIONED, WILL BE ALIGNING YOUR WOP IS VERY CLOSELY WITH THE COUNTY EOP, AS WELL AS THE STATE'S PLAN TO REPRESENT THE UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU HAVE, PARTICULARLY WITH THE COUNTY AND WITH THAT NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS GOAL, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT ESTABLISHES AS FAR AS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MISSION AREAS, WE'LL BE FOCUSING SPECIFICALLY ON RESPONSE AND RECOVERY FOR EOP AND THE CORE CAPABILITIES THAT FEMA OUTLINES IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE RESPONSE AND RECOVERY MISSIONARY GOALS.
THAT'S AGAIN IN THAT OVERALL EFFORT OF MAKING THIS AN ALL HAZARDS PLAN FOCUSING ON CAPABILITIES RATHER THAN HAZARDS.
THEN THE FEMA COMPREHENSIVE PREPAREDNESS GUIDE OR CPG ONE ON ONE, THAT IS OUR MAIN DOCUMENT FROM FEMA THAT OUTLINES WHAT EOPS SHOULD INCLUDE AND HOW THE EOP PLANNING PROCESS SHOULD GO.
IT WILL BE ALIGNING THE ENTIRE PLANNING PROCESS WITH THAT AS WELL.
IT'S HOW WE DID THE COUNTY PLAN AND STATE PLANS AND IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH A PLANNING TEAM AND GET THE RIGHT FEEDBACK AND ALL OF OUR PLANNING MEETINGS.
WE'LL BE FOLLOWING THAT GUIDANCE IN BOTH HOW WE DO THIS PLANNING PROCESS, AS WELL AS WHAT COMPONENTS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE EOP.
THEN NIMS AND INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM.
THE NATIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WILL BE ALIGNING YOUR PLAN WITH THE WAY IN WHICH THE CITY IMPLEMENTS THE NIMS AND ICS SYSTEMS. THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE THAT LENDS TO FEDERAL GRANT ELIGIBILITY FOR HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS SPECIFICALLY BEING NIMS INTEGRATED USED TO BE CALLED NIMS COMPLIANT, BUT NOW IT'S NIMS INTEGRATED IN ALL OF YOUR OPERATIONS IS A COMPONENT OF THAT ELIGIBILITY FOR HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT FUNDS.
WE'LL MAKE SURE TO REPRESENT HOW THE CITY IMPLEMENTS NIMS AND ICS AND AN ALL HAZARDS ENVIRONMENT IN YOUR EOP AND IN THE OVERALL STRUCTURE.
THEN YOU'LL HAVE THAT THERE FOR GRANT ELIGIBILITY PURPOSES AS WELL.
THEN AS I MENTIONED, THAT EMAP STANDARD WE'LL BE USING TO INCORPORATE THOSE BEST PRACTICES AND THE STANDARDS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO AN EOP.
THIS GRAPHIC HERE IS FROM THE FEMA CPG ONE ON ONE THAT OUTLINES HOW TO DEVELOP EOPS.
THIS IS THE PLANNING PROCESS GRAPHIC, AND WE DO FOLLOW THIS SIX STEP PROCESS IN DEVELOPING YOUR EOP.
I WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE DO AT EACH OF THESE STEPS BRIEFLY.
STEP ONE IN FORMING A COLLABORATIVE PLANNING TEAM.
IN WORKING WITH STACEY AND DANIEL, WE'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED A LIST OF WHO WILL BE ON YOUR PLANNING TEAM BASED ON DIVISION HEADS AND IMT PARTICIPANTS AS WELL AS FOLKS EXTERNAL TO THE CITY.
WE'RE INCORPORATING COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, STATE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, NGOS, VOLUNTARY AGENCIES THAT SUPPORT SUCH AS THE UNITED WAY AND RED CROSS.
WE HAVE PRIVATE SECTOR UTILITY PARTNERS AS WELL AND VARIOUS OTHER PARTNERS IN THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IS SOMETHING YOU'LL HEAR AS WELL IN OUR PLANNING PROCESS.
YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD IT BEFORE, BUT IT REALLY JUST MEANS ANY GOVERNMENTAL, NON-GOVERNMENTAL, VOLUNTARY, OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF ENTITY OR INDIVIDUAL THAT MAY HAVE A ROLE IN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS.
WE'VE BUILT THE PLANNING TEAM SPECIFICALLY TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT THE WIDE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTATION HERE IN THE CITY IN ORDER TO GET VOICES FROM VARIOUS COMMUNITY GROUPS ON OUR PLANNING TEAM.
WE'LL ALSO NOT ONLY IN REPRESENTING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY ON THAT PLANNING TEAM, YOUR PLAN AND THE APPROACHES THAT WE DEVELOP IN THIS PLAN WILL ALSO CONSIDER HOW WE RESPOND AND RECOVER, INCORPORATING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND VULNERABLE POPULATIONS AS WELL.
THAT'S TWO FOLD THERE WITH THE WHOLE COMMUNITY INTEGRATION.
THEN STEP TO UNDERSTANDING THE SITUATION.
WHAT THIS REALLY MEANS IS ABOUT HAZARD ANALYSIS, AND THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE WITH FLAGSTAFF BEING A PARTICIPANT IN THE COCONINO COUNTY MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN.
WE'LL REFERENCE THE HAZARD ANALYSIS INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO THE CITY IN THAT PLAN AS THE BASIS FOR OUR HAZARD ANALYSIS AND UNDERSTANDING THE ENVIRONMENT IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF FOR THIS PLANNING PROCESS.
STEP 3, DETERMINING THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SET WITH A SCOPE OF WORK THAT'S BEEN APPROVED.
THAT'LL BE JUST US ACHIEVING THAT ALL HAZARDS AND ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES DOCUMENT FOR YOU AND WHAT THOSE OBJECTIVES STEPS ARE TO ACHIEVE THAT, THAT I OUTLINED A FEW SLIDES PREVIOUS.
THEN IN STEP 4 DEVELOPING THE PLAN, THIS IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF OUR PLANNING WORK WILL OCCUR WITH OUR PLANNING WORKSHOPS, WITH THE PLANNING TEAM AND THOSE DIVISIONS THAT WE'VE
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IDENTIFIED AS HAVING DIVISION ANNEXES.THIS WILL REALLY BE THE BULK OF THE COLLABORATION WITH THOSE PARTNERS AND GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK AND REALLY DETAILING WHAT THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
THEN FROM THERE, STEP 5, WE WILL PREPARE THE PLAN, WE'LL PROVIDE THE PLAN FOR REVIEW AND FEEDBACK WITH PLANNING TEAM MEMBERS, AND THEN FOR APPROVAL BY THE COUNCIL, AND THEN WE WILL MOVE TO STEP 6, WHICH WANTS YOU AND PARTNERS IS OUT OF THE PICTURE.
THE PLAN IS NOW YOURS TO IMPLEMENT AND MAINTAIN.
IN THAT SENSE, WE'LL JUST GO TO THIS SLIDE HERE.
THIS IS THE PREPAREDNESS CYCLE.
THIS IS REALLY A REPRESENTATION OF THAT STEP 6 IMPLEMENTING THE PLAN.
WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THIS PLAN, IT REALLY DOESN'T END THERE.
YOUR EMT AND THOSE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE INVOLVED WILL CONTINUE TO TRAIN AND EXERCISE AND OPERATIONALIZE THIS PLAN.
THEN AFTER EMERGENCIES AND DISASTERS, AFTER READING EXERCISES, THEY'LL EVALUATE AND IMPROVE WHAT WAS DONE BASED ON WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN THAT EOP AND UPDATE AS NECESSARY ON A REGULAR BASIS.
WE LIKE TO CALL THIS A LIVING DOCUMENT IN THE SENSE THAT YOUR EM TEAM IS GOING TO BE CONSTANTLY REVIEWING AND REVISING THIS PLAN AS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO KEEP IT DYNAMIC AND UP TO DATE FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE CHANGING ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU MIGHT BE FACING IN THE YEARS TO COME.
THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT YOUR PLAN WILL INCLUDE.
AS FAR AS THE STRUCTURE AND CONTENTS OF THE PLAN, YOU'LL HAVE A BASE PLAN, WHICH IS THAT FOUNDATIONAL PORTION OF THE PLAN OUTLINING THE PURPOSE OF THE PLAN AND THE SCOPE, CONCEPT OF OPERATIONS.
THAT'LL BE THE OVERALL APPROACH THAT THE CITY TAKES TO RESPONSE AND RECOVERY, INCLUDING HOW THEY INCORPORATE NIMS AND ICS AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS, HOW THE IMT IS USED AND THE OVERALL STRUCTURE.
>> ALL RIGHT, AWESOME. LET'S SEE.
WE WILL ALSO BE IDENTIFYING HOW OPERATIONS ARE DIRECTED AND CONTROLLED IN AN EMERGENCY AND WHAT THOSE LINES OF COMMUNICATION AND COORDINATION ARE.
IN THE BASE PLAN WE'LL HAVE A HIGH LEVEL DESCRIPTION OF ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND OVERALL ORGANIZATION AND THAT'LL BE FROM THE CITY AND EXTERNAL PARTNERS.
THEN EOP HAS ALSO INCLUDE COMMUNICATION'S LOGISTICS AND FINANCE INFORMATION THAT'S NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE EOP.
SO SOME OF THOSE FOUNDATIONAL SUPPORTING ELEMENTS WILL BE ADDRESSED AS FAR AS LOGISTICS AND FINANCE AND COMMUNICATIONS.
THEN FINALLY, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTENANCE, WHICH REFERS BACK TO THAT PREPAREDNESS CYCLE AND HOW THE CITY WILL PLAN TO CONTINUALLY REVIEW AND REVISE THE PLAN AND UTILIZE IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS UP-TO-DATE AND OPERATIONAL FOR ALL THE PARTNERS INVOLVED.
THEN THE KEY THING HERE ALSO IS THIS DIVISION ANNEXES.
THESE WILL BE DIALING EVEN MORE INTO ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR SIX DIVISIONS WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS COORDINATING DIVISIONS AND WORKING WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED THESE SIX DIVISIONS HERE, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, PARKS AND RECREATION, PUBLIC AFFAIRS, PUBLIC WORKS, AND WATER SERVICES.
SO THESE SIX WERE IDENTIFIED AS NECESSARY FOR HAVING THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL ANNEXES IN THE EOP BASED ON THE CAPABILITIES, RESOURCES, AND AUTHORITIES THAT THEY BRING TO EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND RECOVERY.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT HERE, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOTICING POLICE AND FIRE ARE NOT HERE.
THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, VERY CLEARLY DEFINED IN STATUTE, ORDINANCE AND SUCH AND SO RATHER THAN REPEATING ALL OF THAT IN THE EOP, WILL REFERENCE IT BACK APPROPRIATELY AND THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE BASE PLAN AT THAT HIGHER LEVEL WITH THAT REFERENCE, SO WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING INFORMATION AND THAT ALSO IS GOOD FOR MAINTENANCE.
YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO UPDATE THINGS IN TWO PLACES.
YOU'RE JUST REFERENCING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT OR STATUTE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE WHEN WE'RE REFERRING TO THOSE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR SOME OF THOSE OTHER KEY DIVISIONS.
JUST BECAUSE A DIVISION IS NOT ON HERE DOESN'T MEAN THEY WON'T BE MENTIONED IN THE PLAN, WILL BE PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT ALL CITY DIVISIONS MAY HAVE A ROLE IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE PLAN WILL SPEAK TO THAT.
WITH THIS, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE ANNEXES FOR THESE SIX DIVISIONS, WE REALLY EMPHASIZE THAT THESE DIVISIONS WILL OWN THEIR ANNEXES AND OWN WHAT THEY PUT INTO THEM AS FAR AS THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
WE'LL CONDUCT WORKSHOPS WHERE WE'LL BRING THEIR LEADERSHIP AND TEAM TOGETHER AND DISCUSS WHAT THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES LOOK LIKE DURING AN EMERGENCY, AND I'LL HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT'S AN OUTLINE OF THEIR ANNEX UP DURING THE MEETING, TYPING IN WHAT THEY'RE TELLING ME AS WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION, SO IT'LL BE AN ACTIVE PLANNING WORKSHOP WITH EACH OF THESE SIX DIVISIONS IN ORDER TO CODIFY WHAT THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
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AND WE'LL HAVE APPROPRIATE PLANNING REVIEW AFTER THAT FOR THEM TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK BASED ON WHAT WE DEVELOP TOGETHER IN THOSE WORKSHOPS.BUT IF YOU REPRESENT OR A PART OF THE TEAM FOR ANY OF THESE SIX DIVISIONS, EXPECT THAT WE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO YOU IN ORDER TO SET UP THOSE PLANNING MEETINGS THIS SUMMER IN COORDINATION WITH DANIEL AND STACEY, WITH THE EM TEAM IN ORDER TO CODIFY YOUR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
ONE OTHER POINT ON THAT, AT THE END OF THE PLANNING PROCESS, ONCE EVERYONE HAS APPROVED OF WHAT WE HAVE DETAILED IN THEIR ANNEXES, WILL BE PRESENTING THEM WITH INDIVIDUAL DIVISION PROMULGATION PAGES.
IN ADDITION TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL APPROVING OF THE OVERALL EOP, EACH OF THE DIVISIONS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROMULGATE THEIR SPECIFIC ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT THEY'VE DEFINED IN THEIR ANNEX.
WE DID THIS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND ALSO WITH THE COUNTY AND IT'S A VERY SUCCESSFUL WAY IN WHICH TO GET BUY-IN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE APPROVAL FROM THESE DIVISION DIRECTORS AS TO WHAT THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AND ALSO WHAT THEY'RE NOT, SO THEY'LL HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MAKE THESE ANNEXES THEIR OWN AND THAT THEY REALLY REPRESENT THEIR TRUE OPERATIONAL CAPABILITIES AND RESOURCES.
WITH THAT, I'LL JUST GO OVER REALLY QUICKLY WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE.
AFTER THIS, WE'LL HAVE OUR INITIAL PLANNING TEAM MEETING WITH THAT BROADER PLANNING TEAM THAT I MENTIONED NEXT TUESDAY.
WE'LL BE GOING OVER A SIMILAR PRESENTATION WITH THEM AND DIGGING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT AS FAR AS WHAT WE'LL BE DOING IN THEIR PLANNING WORKSHOPS WITH THOSE SIX DIVISIONS AND WHAT THEIR OPPORTUNITIES WILL BE FOR PROVIDING FEEDBACK AND HOW WE'RE INCORPORATE THAT FEEDBACK WILL BE WORKING WITH THE EM TEAM ON DOCUMENT REVIEW AND FORMING THE EOP OUTLINE BASED ON THE COUNTY AND STATE PLANS AND THAT FEDERAL GUIDANCE.
AND THEN WE'LL BE DIGGING INTO IN JULY, GIVEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY FIRES OR FLOODS GOING ON.
OUR STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS AND THOSE DIVISION PLANNING WORKSHOPS AND LIKE I MENTIONED, WE'LL BE SHOOTING FOR THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR FOR A FINALIZED PLAN.
WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
>> THANK YOU. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? I DON'T SEE ANY. THANK YOU.
>> YEAH. COULD YOU START OVER, PLEASE? I'LL CATCH YOU UP TO WHAT I MISSED OFFLINE. NO WORRIES.
>> I WAS SITTING HERE WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO TALK AND THEN I REALIZED IT'S ME.
[LAUGHTER] I REMEMBER FOR BUTLER AND BEAVER PILOT BIKE PROGRAM UPDATE STAFF.
[4. Butler and Beaver Pilot Bike Program Update Staff recommend removing the separated bike lanes on both roads and replacing them with a painted bike buffer. Staff also recommend pursuing a raised sidewalk design to construction with Safe Streets for All (SS4A) grant funding to replace the separated bike lanes. ]
>> I THINK THE FILE I SAVED GOT DELETED SO I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT INTERNET IS BACK ON BECAUSE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS, SO LET'S GO TO SLIDESHOW. OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
MY NAME IS [NOISE] DAVID LEMCKE.
I'M A TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER ASSOCIATE HERE AT THE CITY.
TONIGHT, I WILL BE PRESENTING ON THE SEPARATED BICYCLE LANES, BUTLER AND BEAVER PILOT PROJECT, WITH THE HELP OF PUBLIC WORKS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND DIVE INTO IT.
JUST FOR A LITTLE BACKGROUND, THESE PILOT PROJECTS WERE RECOMMENDED [NOISE] IN JULY 2021 AFTER CITIZEN PETITION.
THEY WERE COMPLETED IN NOVEMBER 2021.
THE DESIGN INCLUDES CANDLESTICKS AND CONCRETE BARRIERS ON BEAVER STREET AND BUTLER AVENUE IN THE BOUNDARIES SHOWN.
THE PLAN WAS TO START WITH THESE TWO PHASES, BUTLER AND BEAVER, STUDY, COLLECT SPEED AND VOLUME DATA BEFORE AND AFTER,
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COLLECT FEEDBACK FROM INTERESTED PARTIES AND CITIZENS, HOW THAT WILL OPERATE AND MAINTENANCE DURING SNOWSTORMS, AND REVIEW CRASHES, AND DETERMINE OTHER PHASES AND NEXT STEPS.THE FIRST EVALUATION WAS IN JUNE 2022, AND WE REPORTED ON THE PERFORMANCE, THE PILOT PROJECT TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, THE BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND COUNCIL.
WE REPORTED ON THESE FOLLOWING ITEMS, INTERESTED PARTY INPUTS.
THERE WERE GENERAL CONCERNS FOR WINTER MAINTENANCE AND NARROW LANES.
BICYCLE USAGE REMAINED CONSTANT OR HAD A SLIGHT DECREASE.
VEHICLE SPEEDS AND VOLUMES REMAINED CONSTANT.
CRASHES AT THAT TIME, NO SERIOUS OR FATAL CRASHES HAD BEEN REPORTED.
FROM THE COMMUNITY SURVEY, THERE'S GENERALLY NEGATIVE FOR DRIVERS SPLIT FOR BICYCLISTS AND WINTER MAINTENANCE WAS A BIG CONCERN OVERALL.
STAFF RECOMMENDED TO REMOVE THE DELINEATORS FROM BUTLER AND STRIPE A BUFFER, AND KEEP BEAVER THE WAY IT WAS AT THE TIME, THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.
THE BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED KEEPING BUTLER AND BEAVER FOR AT LEAST ONE FULL YEAR FOR FURTHER DATA COLLECTION AND REVIEW WITH SMALL MODIFICATIONS.
THE RESULTS OF THAT EVALUATION, COUNCIL ULTIMATELY FELT THERE HAD BEEN INSUFFICIENT TIME TO DECIDE TO REMOVE THE PROJECTS, FOR IT HAD ONLY BEEN IN EFFECT FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS AND HADN'T EXPERIENCED A VERY HARSH WINTER.
THEY DIRECTED STAFF TO KEEP BOTH BEAVER AND BUTLER'S SEPARATED LANES FOR FURTHER DATA COLLECTION.
THAT BRINGS US TO TODAY FOR THE SECOND EVALUATION, WHERE WE WILL LOOK AT INTERESTED PARTY INPUT, BICYCLE VOLUMES, AND CRASH DATA.
ACTUALLY, HERE, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OFF TO SAM BECKETT.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE APPRECIATE YOU HAVING US HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THIS PILOT PROJECT.
SOME OF THE PIECES I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON HERE, REALLY THE MAINTENANCE ASPECT OF IT.
I ALWAYS LIKE TO PREFACE IT WITH, THERE'S NOTHING PRETTY ABOUT MAINTENANCE.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE DO OUR JOB WELL, YOU NEVER SEE THIS, YOU NEVER HEAR ABOUT US.
ULTIMATELY, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES IN IN THE BACK-END TO KEEP UP WITH DIFFERENT ITEMS, AND EVERY NEW INFRASTRUCTURE BRINGS ITS OWN CHALLENGES, MANY OF WHICH WE ADAPT TO, MANY OF WHICH WE STILL WORK THROUGH.
IN PARTICULAR, WE'RE GOING TO START OFF HERE WITH WINTER OPERATIONS.
WE'RE JUST HITTING A HIGH POINTS HERE.
MOST OF YOU HAVE ALREADY HEARD ABOUT THIS.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK, BUT ROAD NARROWING AND THE LOSS OF TRAVEL LANES ON A PRETTY MAIN THOROUGHFARE THROUGH FLAGSTAFF WAS A BIG ISSUE FOR US.
FROM THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT FROM THE OPERATIONS PERSPECTIVE, IT REALLY PUT SOME OF OUR OPERATIONS IN A UNIQUE SITUATION, WHERE THE LANES HAVE BLURRED AND LOST, AND NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO PASS OUR SNOW OPERATIONS.
WE'VE RAN INTO A LOT OF ISSUES WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT CLOSE CALLS.
WE ALSO SAW A LOT OF FAILURES.
WE SAW MASSIVE FAILURES IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE ITSELF THROUGH THE WINTERTIME.
UNFORTUNATELY, AS WE SEE, THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STRIKES ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE, TAKING OFF THE CANDLESTICKS, OR THE DELINEATORS THAT STAND UP TO MARK THEM.
THEN AFTER THAT, THE CURBS WERE JUST BURIED IN SNOW.
IT WAS REALLY TOUGH TO SEE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE ALSO RAN INTO SOME WEIRD NUANCES, NOW THAT THIS IS OUR SECOND WINNER WE'VE GONE THROUGH WITH THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND UNDERSTANDING THE PLOWING OPERATIONS.
SOME OF THE ISSUES WE WORK THROUGH WERE A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL SNOW PLOW OPERATIONS THAT WOULD PUSH SNOW BACK INTO THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT TAKES THE SNOW OPERATIONS TEAM ABOUT TWO-AND-A-HALF TO THREE HOURS TO MAKE ONE PASS THROUGH THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT TAKES TWO VEHICLES WORKING IN TANDEM, ONE VEHICLE HELPS CLEAR OUT THE BUSTED CURBS, SO WE DON'T DESTROY A SNOWBLOWER, WHICH DID HAPPEN ONCE.
WE WENT DOWN TO ONE SNOWBLOWER AND IT'S STILL DOWN AS WE SPEAK.
WE RUN DUAL APPARATUS TO KEEP THE PROCESS UP AND MOVING.
IF SOMEBODY WERE TO COME BACK AND PLOW OUT THEIR DRIVEWAY, IT'S A MINIMUM THREE-HOUR TURNAROUND BEFORE THEY GET BACK THERE TO OPEN THAT BACK UP.
THEN AGAIN, THE BIG PIECE HERE IS, WE RAN INTO SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT SITUATIONS WHERE WE EVEN HAD A COUPLE OF OUR OPERATORS ASKED TO BE MOVED OFF OF THAT ROUTE DUE TO THE DANGEROUS NARROWING OF THE ROADWAYS AND THE TRAFFIC CONTINUED TO ATTEMPT TO PASS THOSE VEHICLES, PUTTING THEM IN BAD SITUATIONS.
SOME OF THE PIECES WE'LL GO THROUGH HERE ARE JUST WHAT THEY DEALT WITH IN THE FIELD.
AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT HERE, STRUGGLES OF THE SNOW OPERATIONS, THE NEAR MISSES.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WEREN'T EXPECTING AS MUCH, BUT WE SAW IT A LITTLE BIT LAST YEAR AND THOUGHT IT WAS AN ANOMALY AND THEN WE REALIZED THIS YEAR IT'S NOT.
THE TRANSITION OF NOT ONLY PUTTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, BUT TRANSITIONING THE SNOW OPERATIONS AWAY FROM WHERE THE CITY DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE IS DESIGNED TO HANDLE IT,
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HAS CREATED THIS RUNOFF EFFECT FROM SNOW BEING STORED IN THE CENTER OF THE ROAD.NOW WE HAVE WATER RUNNING BACK ACROSS THE ROAD WHICH INCREASED OUR CINDER USAGE, ALMOST TWICE OF WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY DO.
IN SOME CASES, WHAT SOME OF OUR EARLY DATA'S TELLING US IS THREE TIMES AS MUCH THE CINDER USAGE TO GET AHEAD OF THE ICE THAT WAS COMING OUT OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU ALSO SEE IN THAT LOWER RIGHT-HAND CORNER, WE HAD PONDING OF ICE IN AREAS THAT WE DIDN'T NORMALLY HAVE AND DIDN'T HAVE PREVIOUSLY.
[NOISE] I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GIVE IT A MINUTE OR I CAN JUST KEEP GOING.
>> NO, NO WORRIES. TAKE YOUR TIME. I GET IT.
I NEVER KNOW WHEN CJ IS JUST MESSING WITH ME, SO I'M NOT SURE.
>> MAYOR, WHILE WE ARE WRESTLING WITH THIS ONE CONSIDERATION THAT YOU AND THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE IS JUST TO CONTINUE THIS MEETING WITHOUT IT BEING STREAMED BUT IT IS ENTIRELY YOUR CALL.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE MAY BE HAVING MORE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
>> LET'S CONTINUE AS WE WERE GOING TO BEFORE WHEN WE WERE UNSURE WHETHER INTERNET WOULD COME BACK UP AND SEE WHETHER IT COMES BACK UP.
>> WE'LL JUST KEEP WORKING OUR WAY DOWN THROUGH HERE AS WE WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE SNOW OPERATIONS.
STREETS WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, THE BOBCAT TOOLCATS LAST JANUARY, THEY FINALLY SHOWED UP AT JANUARY OF '22 AND THOSE HAVE BEEN THE PRIMARY VEHICLES FOR THIS INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE THAT FITS.
WHEN WE RUN INTO ISSUES LIKE WE SEE IN THAT ICE CONDITION DOWN THERE, THAT TOOLKIT DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO REMOVE THE ICE AND SENDERS DON'T REALLY CHANGE THE EFFECT OF THAT.
WE HAD SOME PONDING AND SOME MIGHT ISSUES, WE JUST COULDN'T GET TO.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS JUST A SITUATION WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WASN'T DESIGNED TO SUPPORT THE WATER THAT WAS GETTING IN THAT AREA AND WE COULDN'T GET IN THERE WITH A HEAVIER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO TAKE CARE OF IT, SO IT JUST UNFORTUNATELY LEAD TO SOME ROUGH CONDITIONS FOR OUR CYCLING RESIDENTS.
THE OTHER BIG PIECE OF IT THERE WAS A LOT OF STRIKES ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF CAB FAILURES IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALL OF WHICH HAD TO BE REMOVED BY HAND.
WHAT CREWS WOULD DO IS THEY'D GO OUT, THEY PULL ALL THE PIECES OUT OF THE SNOW BY HAND SO THEY COULD GET THROUGH THERE.
IF THE EQUIPMENT WASN'T NEARBY.
WHEN THE EQUIPMENT WAS NEARBY, THEY WOULD USE ONE OF THE TOOLCATS, THROW IT IN THE BUCKET OF THE TOOLCAT, AND THEN THEY WOULD JUST KEEP FILLING IT UP.
THEN ONCE THAT WAS FULL, THEY WOULD TAKE IT OVER TO THE STOCKPILE OF DAMAGED CABS.
IT SEEMS LIKE A SMALL TASK, BUT IT TURNED INTO A VERY HEFTY TASK ADMINISTRATIVELY AND PHYSICALLY WHERE MOST OF, HONESTLY, OUR SNOW SHIFT SUPERVISORS HAD TO TAKE THAT ON AND SO INSTEAD OF MANAGING THE SNOW OPERATIONS, THEY WERE OUT PICKING UP BROKEN CABS.
AGAIN TO KEEP THIS OPERATION UP AND RUNNING AND TO KEEP SOME CONSISTENCY, WHICH WAS A HEAVY PUSH OF OURS, WE NEEDED TO HAVE MORE CONSISTENCY ON THOSE PLOW OPERATIONS.
OUR ATTEMPT WAS ULTIMATELY TO MEET A GOAL OF A PRIORITY ROUTE SNOW OPERATION.
WE HAVE LEARNED THAT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT STREETS CAN COMMIT TO AT THIS POINT.
WE GIVE IT OUR BEST EFFORT THIS YEAR.
STAFFING AND EQUIPMENT JUST WON'T ALLOW US TO MEET THAT PRIORITY LEVEL SERVICE.
BUT IN ATTEMPT TO DO SO, WE ACTUALLY PULLED PEOPLE FROM SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO HELP KEEP THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND THESE TOOLCATS UP AND RUNNING AS OPERATORS AND ULTIMATELY, IT PUT US BEHIND IN SOME AREAS, BUT IT WORKED WELL TO TRY AND KEEP THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN GOOD SHAPE.
AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS IS JUST WITH TWO SNOW SEASONS UNDER OUR BELT.
FIRST ONE BEING VERY MILD, WHICH I THINK IT WAS GREAT FOR US TO GO THROUGH THAT AND THEN HAVE THIS PERSPECTIVE OF OBVIOUSLY MORE SIGNIFICANT WARE AND THEN UNDERSTANDING WHAT DIFFERENCES ARE GOING TO BE BETWEEN THOSE NUANCES.
ODDLY ENOUGH, IT'S VERY SIMILAR OPERATION, WHETHER IT WAS A TON OF SNOW OR A LITTLE BIT OF SNOW.
THE FREQUENCY OF PLOW OPERATIONS IS WHERE WE SAW THAT CHANGE AND BEING ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH IT FOR THE EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME JUST MADE IT VERY,
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VERY DIFFICULT AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS.YOU CAN SEE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND CORNER THERE THAT IS THE PILE OF CABS THAT WERE REMOVED.
THAT IS ONLY FROM JANUARY 1ST UNTIL LAST WEEK.
THAT PICTURE MID-LAST WEEK, THEY MOVE THOSE CABS FINALLY OUT OF THERE, OUT TO A BETTER LOCATION.
BUT THAT IS ONLY THE CABS THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED THIS YEAR ALONE FROM SIGNIFICANT STRIKES AND JUST SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE THAT WERE KNOCKED FREE FROM THE GROUND.
AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME OF THESE, YOU CAN SEE THE REBAR STICKING OUT OF THEM.
THE ONES THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE REBAR STICKING OUT OF THEM, WE HAD TO COME BACK, CUT THOSE OFF OR TRYING TO OUR BEST TO REMOVE THE REBAR SO WE DIDN'T LEAVE A HAZARD BEHIND.
THAT'S WHERE THAT ADDITIONAL EFFORT COMES IN TO TRY AND KEEP UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
SOME OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF IT WAS WE ENHANCED OUR TIMING WITH PROS WITH THE SIDEWALK INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY DO MAINTAIN IN THAT AREA.
SOME OF IT THEY DO, SOME OF IT THEY DON'T.
WE WERE ABLE TO TIME THAT BETTER, SO WHEN THEY WERE PLOWING THEIR SIDEWALKS, WE COULD COME IN AND BE MORE TIMELY AND THE BACKFILL OF THAT ON THE BIKE LANE INFRASTRUCTURE.
ONE OF THE BIG PIECES WE SAW ADMINISTRATIVELY IS WE SAW A HUGE UPTICK IN COMPLAINTS FROM NOT ONLY OUR TRAVELING PUBLIC AS OUR DRIVERS BUT FROM OUR CYCLING COMMUNITY.
UNFORTUNATELY, FOR WHATEVER REASON WE'RE SEEING SIGNIFICANT VOLUMES OF COMPLAINTS AGAINST THIS.
WE KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TO KEEP UP WITH IT, BUT WE LOGGED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CALLS FROM BOTH SIDES AND NOW WE'RE MORE FAVORABLE OF WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
BUT JUST KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR BEST, I KNOW MANY OF THEM CAME TO COUNCIL AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT TO TRY AND DO BETTER AND BE BETTER.
THEN ONE OF THE BIG ONES FOR SNOW OPERATIONS THAT HELD US UP A LOT, FROM WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE FIELD OPERATIONS, THERE WAS A HUGE INCREASE IN ACCIDENTS AND THIS CAUSED JUST TO STOP OF OPERATIONS.
THEY WERE STUCK IN TRAFFIC, THEY COULDN'T GET OUT OF THERE UNTIL THE ACCIDENTS WERE CLEARED.
THIS HAPPENED MANY TIMES MORE SIGNIFICANTLY ON THE BUTLER CORRIDOR THAN THE BEAVER CORRIDOR, BUT IT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE PERCEPTIONS THAT CAME THROUGH THIS PAST WINTER AS WE WORKED WITH ALL THE OPERATION STAFF TO GIVE US THEIR FEEDBACK OF WHAT THEY SEE GOING ON OUT THERE.
NOW, WE GET OUT OF WINTERTIME AND WE'RE WORKING ON THE SPRINGTIME OPERATIONS HERE.
ONE OF THE BIG PIECES WAS SWEEPING.
HOW DO WE GET IN THERE AND GET THIS CLEANED UP? WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS THERE'S AREAS THAT THAT SWEEPER THAT WE PURCHASED WITH THE TOOLCAT JUST CAN'T GET TO.
WHEN YOU GET TO THAT EDGE OF THE ROAD, OUR ENGINEERS COULD PROBABLY DEFINE THIS BETTER AND EXPLAIN IT BETTER.
BUT EVERY ROAD HAS A CURVATURE TO IT, SO WATER CAN DRAIN FROM IT.
IT PUSHES IT TO THE EDGES OF THE ROAD.
WELL, AS YOU GET TO THE EDGE OF THE ROAD, THE CURB LINES, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE PAVEMENT.
YOU DON'T HAVE A FLAT SURFACE OFF THE EDGE OF THE ROAD, YOU HAVE A CURVED SURFACE.
OUR BROOMS ARE DESIGNED TO RUN ON A FLAT SURFACE, SO WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS EACH SIDE ON THE CURB LINE, IT'S LEAVING 8-10 INCHES OF A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CINDERS THAT WE JUST CAN'T REACH WITH THE EQUIPMENT.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IN THERE WITH A HAND LEAF BLOWERS AND BLOW SOME OF THAT OUT OF THERE.
IN THE NIGHT HOURS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC AND JUST TO KEEP THE OPERATION STAFF SAFER.
ONE OF THE GOOD PIECES OF THIS ITEMS HERE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP RIGHT, IS OUR STRIPING CREW WAS ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THEIR CARRIAGE UNIT CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE CURB SYSTEM WHERE THEY COULDN'T PREVIOUSLY WHERE THEY WERE DOING HAND STRIPING, THEY WERE ABLE TO GET CLOSE ENOUGH NOW WITH THE MACHINE TO BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE AND STRIPE IT.
IF WE CHOOSE TO DO SO AND IF WE CHOOSE TO KEEP THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, LAST YEAR'S REFRESH, THEY WERE ABLE TO GET IN THERE, SO THAT WAS REALLY GOOD AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT PIECE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE GET BACK TO SWEEPING, YOU'LL SEE THE PICTURE OF THE SWEEPER IN THE BOTTOM HERE.
THE DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU HAVE THE SEPARATED CURB AND HAVING A BIG STREET SWEEPER AND HAVING THE SMALLER ONE IS THE SWEEPER ON THE SMALLER ONES MOUNTED TO THE FRONT IT'S FIXED TO WHATEVER GRADE THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS RUNNING AT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SWEEPER IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THE BRISTLES ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN ON THE BOTTOM OF THE TRUCK.
IT'S LIKE A ROUND HOOKED BROOMS SITTING UNDERNEATH THERE.
STREETS WERE DESIGNED TO BUILD A REACH OUT TO THE CURB AND GET AS FAR AND AS THEY CAN.
THE PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THEY CAN'T GET PAST THE FIRST CURB TO GET INTO THE SECOND CURVE.
WE HAVE TOOLS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO CLEAR STREETS, IT'S JUST INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NOT DESIGNED TO WORK WITH THE TOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNED TO CLEAR STREETS.
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE GET BETTER AT THAT? I'M JUST NOT A LOT OF NEED FOR THIS NATIONWIDE AND SO WE'RE NOT SEEING A LOT OF INDUSTRY SUPPORTING THE EQUIPMENT.
SIGNS AND MARKING CREWS HAVE DONE, LIKE I SAID, WELL, ADAPTING TO THIS, TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH IT.
THE ONE-PIECE WE HAVE NOTED, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO NOTE HERE IS THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT'S GOING TO TAKE OUR CREWS TO KEEP UP WITH THE MARKINGS.
IN PARTICULAR, THE CANDLESTICKS THAT THEY'RE REFERRED TO,
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THE STICK UP ON THE DELINEATION FOR OUR CREWS AVAILABILITY AND TIME IS IMPOSSIBLE.WE'LL NOT BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE NEEDS AT THIS POINT.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE ROUGHLY 4-5 PEOPLE CONSISTENTLY AT THIS POINT ON A MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK BASIS TO KEEP UP WITH THOSE MARKINGS, WE WERE ABLE TO GET A MORE RESILIENT CANDLESTICK THAT DOESN'T JUST EXPLODE WHEN THEY'RE HIT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY STILL GET RIPPED OUT OF THE CONCRETE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BOLTED IN WHEN THEY GET HIT.
KEEPING UP WITH THAT IS A FULL-TIME JOB AND A HALF AND SO THAT IS ONE PIECE I WILL NOTE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO IT AT THIS POINT.
FROM HERE, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO OUR FRIENDS OVER IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
DAN MASON AND YOUR POLICE CHIEF.
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE SEEN AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE MORE SPECIFIC TO BUTLER AVENUE THAN BEAVER.
BUT LONG BUTLER, SO YOU HAVE THE BARRIERS THERE.
WHEN OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE RUNNING CODE TO AN INJURY, ACCIDENT, OR CRIME IN PROGRESS, THEY'RE RUNNING LIGHTS AND SIRENS, PROBABLY THE SAME FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WITH THOSE BARRIERS THERE, THERE'S NO WAY FOR THE MOTORING PUBLIC TO GET OVER TO THE SIDE TO LET YOU THROUGH.
IT RESULTS IN DELAYED RESPONSE TIMES FOR US.
I'M SURE THE AMBULANCE COMPANIES ARE SEEING THE SAME THING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO US TO LET US KNOW.
THEN THE OTHER PROBLEM WE SEE WITH THE CHALLENGES OF YIELDING IS WHEN WE DO FUNERAL ESCORTS.
BOTH OUR FUNERAL HOUSES ARE ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
BOTH OUR CEMETERIES ARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, SO THERE'S TWO WAYS TO GET THERE; EITHER YOU'RE ON ROUTE 66, OR YOU'RE ON BUTLER.
AGAIN, THERE'S JUST NO WAY EVEN OUTSIDE OF THE WINTER FOR THE MOTORING PUBLIC TO GET OVER AND LET YOU THROUGH.
IT'S ALSO HARDER FOR VEHICLES PULLING TRAILERS TO NAVIGATE ON BUTLER.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY HAVE TO PULL OUT FOREIGN TO THE FAR LANE AND THEY SWING WIDE AND USUALLY THE BACK-END OF THOSE TRAILERS GET HUNG UP ON THOSE BARRIERS AS THEY'RE MAKING RIGHT TURNS ONTO BUTLER OR WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO GET INTO THE TURN LANE.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S HARDER FOR SEMI TRACTOR TRAILERS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE LONGEST.
THEN SPECIFIC TO THE WINTER, WHAT WE SAW WAS THE SNOW AND ICE BUILDUP ON TOP OF THE BARRIERS CAUSE NARROWING OF THE ROADWAY.
AT MANY TIMES, BUTLER WAS DOWN TO ONE LANE AND CERTAIN SHADED SPOTS.
YOU'D HAVE TWO CARS GOING SIDE-BY-SIDE.
ALL OF A SUDDEN IT DRIFTS DOWN TO ONE LANE OR THEY GET UP ON THAT ICE AND THEN THEY SLIDE TOGETHER AND THEN WE HAVE A SIDE SWIPE COLLISION OF BOTH VEHICLES GOING THE SAME DIRECTION.
ALMOST HAPPENED TO ME ONCE AS WELL, BUT I WAS ABLE TO NARROWLY MISS.
THEN DRIVERS RUNNING OVER THE BARRIERS DUE TO POOR VISIBILITY THEY CAN'T SEE DURING THE STORM.
THEY DON'T REALIZE HOW CLOSE THEY ARE OR THEY'RE SEMI BURIED WITH SNOW AND THEY JUST DRIVE OVER THEM, NOT REALIZING THEY'RE THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE FROM OUT OF TOWN AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET INTO DUTCH BROTHERS.
AGAIN, BEAVER STREET IS NOT AS BAD AS BUTLER.
BUTLER SEEMS TO BE THE BIGGER ISSUE AND THE BIGGER CHALLENGE FOR US AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY CHIEF CHRIS FENNELL WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO TAKE THEIR SLIDE.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE THE SAME THING AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
OUR BIGGEST ISSUE IS WHENEVER WE'RE TRYING TO GO THROUGH THOSE AREAS WITH LIGHTS AND SIREN ON, THE TRAFFIC DOESN'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO GO AND THE DRIVERS ARE REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT WHERE THEY SHOULD GO.
IT LEADS TO WAIT UNTIL THERE'S GREEN LIGHTS OR SOMETHING FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MOVE AND FIND A SPOT TO GET OUT OF THE ROAD.
THEN SOME OF THE OPENINGS WHENEVER YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF THE TRUCK, THEY'RE USUALLY ABOUT EIGHT FEET WIDE AT ABOUT 30 FEET LONG.
TRYING TO GET INTO SOME OF THE OPENINGS ON BUTLER, ESPECIALLY TURNING INTO THE DUTCH BROS PARKING LOT.
OUR TRUCKS ARE NOT ABLE TO GET IN THERE WITHOUT CLIPPING THE SIZE OF THOSE CONCRETE BARRIERS.
USUALLY WE TAKE ONE OF THE ALTERNATE ROUTES TO GET INTO THAT PARKING LOT AND IT DOES LEAD TO A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAYED RESPONSE TIME FOR THAT.
THOSE WOULD BE OUR MAIN CONCERNS COMING FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT INPUT.
I'M GOING TO PICK IT BACK UP HERE WITH A BREAKDOWN OF COSTS.
THIS TABLE IS JUST A BREAKDOWN OF SINGULAR COST ITEMS, THINGS LIKE INSTALLATIONS, PURCHASING NEW EQUIPMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT AND THAT TOTAL TO ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.
THE TWO SALMON COLORED COLUMNS, THE FIRST ONE REPRESENTS THE FIRST UPDATE WE DID THE FIRST WINTER.
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THE THIRD COLUMN, APRIL IS THE NEXT WINTER AND WAS ABOUT $100,000.THE GRAND TOTAL WE'VE PAID IS ABOUT 1.2 MILLION UP TO THIS POINT.
THIS PREVIOUS WINTER RESULTED IN MAINTENANCE COST RISING FROM 51,000 TO 109,000, AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $58,000.
THIS DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL COST ESTIMATE OF $200,000 TO BRING THE INFRASTRUCTURE BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL CONDITIONS.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THESE PICTURES, AFTER ALL THE STRIKES, THERE IS A LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT TO BRING THEM BACK TO ORIGINAL CONDITIONS.
NEXT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT BICYCLE VOLUMES ON THESE ROADS.
THAT WAS ONE THING WE'RE INTERESTED BEFORE AND AFTER STUDYING THE BICYCLE VOLUMES.
IN THIS TABLE, THE BLUE COLUMN REPRESENTS OUR BEFORE VOLUMES THAT WE COLLECTED AND THE THREE, THE ORANGE, GRAY AND YELLOW COLUMNS ARE THE AFTER VOLUMES WE'VE COLLECTED.
WE'VE NOTICED, OR WE FOUND THAT COUNTS HAVE GENERALLY EITHER BEEN CONSISTENT OR DECREASED.
THE FIRST GROUP OF COLUMNS IS FOR BEAVER STREET, AND YOU CAN TELL WE ACTUALLY SAW LITTLE INCREASE THE NEXT TIME WE DID A STUDY, BUT THEN IN MARCH IN THE GRAY COLUMN, WE SAW A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE, BUT WE ATTRIBUTE THAT MOSTLY TO THE WEATHER.
THEN IT CAME RIGHT BACK UP WHEN WE REEVALUATED IT IN APRIL FOR THE YELLOW FOR BEAVER.
BUT THE SECOND GROUPS OF COLUMNS IS BUTLER.
WE'VE MOSTLY SEEN THAT BICYCLE VOLUMES THERE HAD A SLIGHT DECREASE SINCE THE BARRIERS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED.
THIS FIRST GROUP OF DATA I'LL SHOW YOU IS FROM THE ARIZONA CRASH INFORMATION SYSTEM, WHICH AT THIS TIME IS ONLY FULLY FLESHED OUT UNTIL JUNE 2022.
WE LOOKED FROM DECEMBER TO JUNE FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS.
JUST TO GET A FEEL FOR HOW THE CRASHES ARE COMPARING HISTORICALLY.
WE NOTICED ON BEAVER STREET, THINGS HAVE BEEN ABOUT THE SAME AS FAR AS TOTAL CRASHES, AS FAR AS SERIOUS AND FATAL CRASHES BY CRASHES, EVERYTHING SEEMS PRETTY CONSISTENT.
BUT FOR BUTLER AVENUE CRASHES, WE DID NOTICE THERE WAS INCREASE IN CRASHES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR SINCE THE BARRIERS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED.
THERE WAS ONE SERIOUS VEHICLE CRASH, ONE PEDESTRIAN INCIDENT, BUT NO SERIOUS OR FATAL HEAD AND BIKE INCIDENTS.
THIS IS JUST A GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION OF THAT INCREASE IN TOTAL CRASHES.
WE THOUGHT, WHAT TYPE OF CRASHES ARE OCCURRING, IS THIS JUST PEOPLE HITTING THE BARRIERS OR IS THERE SOMETHING MORE? WE DOVE INTO THAT DATA AND TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT TYPES ARE OCCURRING AND I PUT A RED BOX AROUND THE TYPES THAT ARE MORE SIGNIFICANT.
WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE OF SIX THIS YEAR COMPARED TO THE AVERAGE.
ALSO SINGLE VEHICLE CRASHES INCREASE BY SIX AND ALSO REAR ENDS AND THERE WAS A MODEST INCREASE IN OTHER CRASHES.
WE REALIZED IT'S NOT JUST VEHICLES HITTING THE CURVES.
IT'S ALSO VEHICLES BEING AN INCIDENCE WITH OTHER VEHICLES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEN WE REACHED OUT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO FILL IN THAT FINAL SIX MONTHS OF JUNE TO HAVE A FULL YEAR.
THEN WE LOOKED AT THE FULL YEAR TOTAL CRASHES INCLUDING BIKES, PEDS AND SERIOUS AND FATAL AND WE DID NOTICE THAT LOOKING AT THE FULL YEAR, WE ALSO SAW A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TOTAL CRASHES.
THE BIKE CRASHES HAVE STAYED ABOUT THE SAME ON BUTLER, THE PED CRASHES HAVE STAYED ABOUT THE SAME AND THERE WAS ONE SERIOUS INJURY CRASH, BUT NO FATALITIES SINCE THEY'VE BEEN INSTALLED.
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION SINCE THE BARRIERS FOR REFERENCE WERE INSTALLED IN NOVEMBER 2021 SO 2022 IS A FULL YEAR OF BARRIERS BEING INSTALLED AND WE DID SEE AN INCREASE IN TOTAL CRASHES.
THAT BRINGS ME TO COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS. WAS THERE A QUESTION? SORRY. MUST BE SOMETHING ELSE. ANYWAYS, SO WE TALKED TO THE BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THEY DO NOT RECOMMEND REMOVING THE BARRIERS UNLESS THERE IS A FUNDED ALTERNATIVE TO REPLACE THEM.
THEY RECOMMENDED INVESTIGATING REDUCING THE SPEED LIMITS ON BUTLER, PARTICULARLY AND EXPLORING EDUCATION CAMPAIGNS FOR SAFE STREETS.
THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION SUPPORTED REPLACING THE BARRIERS WITH THE PAINTED BUFFER ON BUTLER, BUT KEEPING AND MAINTAINING THE BARRIERS ON BEAVER STREET.
THAT BRINGS US TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
AT THIS TIME, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO REMOVE THE BARRIERS AT BOTH BEAVER AND BUTLER AND REPLACE THEM WITH A PAINTED BUFFER.
WE MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
NUMBER 1 IS SAFETY CONCERNS WITH THE INCREASE IN VEHICLE CRASHES WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THAT'S NOT THE DATA THAT WE WANT TO SEE WITH INCREASING CRASHES.
THE WINTER CONDITIONS, AS WE'VE HEARD FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, HAVE LED TO LESS THAN IDEAL CONDITIONS AND THE CHALLENGING EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES ON BOTH ROADS IS ALSO A CONCERN.
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ALSO BICYCLE RIDERSHIP.FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN FROM THE STUDIES WE'VE DONE, BICYCLE VOLUMES HAVE EITHER DECREASED OR BEEN MAINTAINED SINCE THE BARRIERS WERE INSTALLED AND MAINTENANCE, THE LEVEL OF WINTER MAINTENANCE REQUIRED FOR THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEYOND THE CURRENT STAFFING AND FUNDING LEVELS OF STREETS SECTION AND MAINTAINING THE BARRIERS HAS PULLED RESOURCES FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND LED TO REDUCED SERVICE IN THE WEST SIDE COMMUNITIES AND THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR IN THIS PREVIOUS WINTER AND FINALLY, COSTS.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE PREVIOUS WINTER MORE THAN DOUBLED THE MAINTENANCE COSTS OF THE BARRIERS WITH COST ARISING FROM AROUND 50 GRAND TO 100 GRAND.
JUST TO RECAP STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, WE WOULD WANT TO REMOVE THE SEPARATE FACILITIES AND REPLACE THEM WITH A PAINTED BUFFER AS SEEN IN THAT PICTURE.
WITH A LONG-TERM GOAL OF PURSUING A RAISED BIKE LANE DESIGN INSTEAD.
AT THIS POINT, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO HAND IT OFF TO OUR MULTI-MODAL PLANNER.
>> THANK YOU, DAVID. YOUR HONOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS MARTIN INCE, I'M THE MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNER FOR THE CITY.
I'M GOING TO TAKE THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES AND TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE.
BACK WHEN WE WERE BEFORE YOU IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR, THE COUNCIL DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OR THE IDEA OF RAISED OR ELEVATED BIKE LANES ALONG THIS CORRIDOR AS A MORE PERMANENT AND LONG-TERM SOLUTION TO THE CURRENT CURBS AND BARRIERS.
THIS WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED SIMPLY BY MOVING THE CURB LINE OUT TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE BIKE LANE AND THEN ELEVATING THE BIKE LANES, THE LEVEL OF THE SIDEWALK.
THAT PROVIDES A SMALL AMOUNT OF VERTICAL, A LITTLE BIT OF HORIZONTAL SEPARATION FROM TRAFFIC FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS ON THAT FACILITY.
AT THE TIME, COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION THOUGHT THAT THAT OPTION HAD SOME PROMISING MIGHT ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES WE'VE HAD WITH THE PILOT PROGRAM.
HOWEVER, WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT PROJECT AS A RETROFIT ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
WE HAD NOT IDENTIFIED A POTENTIAL SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THAT.
IN THE TIME SINCE, STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED FEDERAL GRANT PROGRAM AS A POTENTIAL AND LIKELY FUNDING SOURCE.
THAT GRANT PROGRAM IS CALLED SAFE STREETS FOR ALL OR SS4A.
AS A RESULT, WE'RE WORKING ON A GRANT APPLICATION WHICH IS DUE COMING UP HERE QUICKLY ON JULY 10TH.
IF FORM FOLLOWS FOR THIS GRANT, WE SHOULD HEAR IF WE'VE RECEIVED IT SOMETIME BY THE END OF THE YEAR OR LATE FALL.
COUPLE OF COMPONENTS OF THAT GRANT PROJECT INCLUDE, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE RAISED OR ELEVATED BIKE LANES THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED IN THE SECTION OF BUTLER FROM MILTON TO SAWMILL.
WE CAN CONTINUE BETTER TREATMENT FROM SAWMILL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PONDEROSA BY STRIPING BUFFERED BIKE LANES.
ALONG THE MAIN PART OF THE BUTLER CORRIDOR WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, ENHANCING THE EXISTING ONE AT HUMPHREY'S, ADDING A NEW ONE AT O'LEARY.
WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT POTENTIAL OTHER PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS LIKE WIDENING THE SIDEWALK, PROVIDING SOME LANDSCAPING STREET TREES, AND PROVIDING A PARKWAY BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE SIDEWALK.
WE HAVEN'T WORKED OUT THE COMPLETE COST OF IT YET FOR THE GRANT PURPOSES, WE THINK IT WILL BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 7 AND $10 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT.
THE GRANT IS 80% FEDERALLY FUNDED, WHICH MEANS THAT THE CITY HAS TO COME UP WITH A 20% LOCAL MATCH.
IF THE PROJECT WERE $10 MILLION, THAT'S 8 MILLION OF FEDERAL MONEY AND A $2 MILLION LOCAL MATCH.
NOW LUCKILY, A DOT GAVE US SOME MONEY BACK FOR THE DOWNTOWN MILE PROJECT.
PART OF OUR LOCAL MATCH WAS REFUNDED THROUGH THE SMART PROGRAM.
I'M A LITTLE SKETCHY ON THOSE DETAILS, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE MONEY IDENTIFIED FOR THE CITY'S LOCAL MATCH FOR THE PROJECT.
I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE IMAGE THAT'S ON THE SCREEN THAT WAS ACTUALLY DONE ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO BY MOUNTAIN LINE FOR ONE OF THEIR FIVE-YEAR TRANSIT PLANS.
IT IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS PART OF THIS GRANT.
IF WE ARE UNSUCCESSFUL GETTING THE GRANT, WE HAVE THAT MONEY AVAILABLE WITH $2 MILLION MATCH, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO BUILD TWO PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS ALONG THE CORRIDOR, ONE AT BEAVER STREET, ONE AT SAN FRANCISCO STREET.
TIMING WISE, THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
IT IS CURRENTLY PART OF THE CAPITAL PROGRAM.
BUT OF COURSE, OUR FIRST OPTION WOULD BE TO USE THAT MONEY FOR GRANT MATCH.
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LOOKING OUT A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THE BUTLER CORRIDOR AND THE CITY'S USE OF THE PROTECTED BIKE LANES ARE SEPARATED BIKE LANES, OR PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS.WE ARE PLANNING THEM AS PART OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD.
I LISTED THEM HERE AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE IMAGE THE CONFIGURATION THAT WE'VE SETTLED ON, WHICH MOVES THE BIKE LANE OFF OF THE ROADWAY, PUTS IT NEAR THE SIDEWALK AND PUTS A PROTECTED PARKWAY IN-BETWEEN.
THAT PARKWAY SERVES A LOT OF NICE FUNCTIONS.
PRINCIPALLY, IT GIVES US A PLACE TO STORE SNOW, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHERE SNOW GOES AS PART OF MAINTENANCE.
THIS IS PART OF MOST OF OUR PUBLIC ROADWAY PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH NAH, NORTHERNERS AND A HEALTH CARE ON SOME OF THEIR ROADS AND INTERSECTIONS TO APPLY THE SAME CONCEPT.
THEN LOOKING BEYOND EVEN THAT IN INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK YOU'LL BE ASKED TO APPROVE A BUDGET INCLUDING A CAPITAL BUDGET.
THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE ARE WORKING ON A REORGANIZATION OF THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION INTO TWO TRACKS, ONE BEING ENGINEERING, ONE BEING PLANNING.
THE PLANNING SIDE WOULD INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL POSITION TO HELP WITH MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ATMP AND THE CONCEPTS OF THE BIG SHIFT.
TO BE REALLY SPECIFIC, I THINK IT WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN HOW WE DELIVER CAPITAL PROJECTS.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF PLANNING, NOW'S THE TIME FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
THAT REORGANIZATION IN THAT POSITION WILL HELP US IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO DAVID.
>> I WAS GOING TO JUMP IN THERE FOR MARTIN, BUT HE SOUNDED WAY BETTER THAN I DID.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I WANT TO GET BACK TO THIS REAL QUICK ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
I ALWAYS HATE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY ALWAYS SEEM VERY COLD AND LESS CALCULATED.
BUT WHAT I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT IT'S A VERY CALCULATED RECOMMENDATION AS WE COME TO YOU.
I'D RATHER, I THINK MAYBE TRANSITION THE WORD FROM REMOVING TO TRANSITIONING TO.
THAT'S OUR ULTIMATE GOAL AS WE DON'T WANT TO REMOVE SOMETHING AND CREATE ADDITIONAL HAZARDS OR SEE THE TRACK IN A WAY THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A TRACK.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT WE SAW HERE TODAY WAS A LOT OF NUMBERS, AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE TRENDING IN A DIRECTION THAT ULTIMATELY WE DON'T WANT THEM TO SEE GO.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR COMMUTING PUBLIC HAS A SAFE OPPORTUNITY NO MATTER WHERE OR HOW THEY TRAVEL.
THE GOAL IS TO GET BACK TO THAT STANDARD OF STATUS QUO.
NOW, ULTIMATELY, I WOULDN'T EVEN SUPPORT GOING BACK TO JUST A STANDARD STRIPE.
OUR GOAL IS TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE THESE BUFFERED TRANSITIONS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH SOME OF THE GROWING SITUATIONS THAT WE;RE GOING THROUGH, HAVE MADE THESE DECISIONS ON.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS IN SOME WAYS, WE'RE TRYING TO LEAD THE EFFORT AND OTHERS WERE TRYING TO FOLLOW IN THE PATH OF OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS, AS WE LOOK AT THIS, IS TO FIND A WAY TO, ONE, TO ULTIMATELY KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE.
TWO, ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING TO ENHANCE THE COMMUTING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR CYCLING PUBLIC WHILE ALSO KEEPING A SAFE CORRIDOR ACROSS THE BOARD.
THAT'S WHY THE RECOMMENDATION READS THE WAY IT DOES.
BUT I THINK THE WORD TRANSITION MIGHT BE BETTER THAN REMOVING AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THE GOAL WOULD BE NOT TO HAVE NOTHING BUT WOULD BE TO TRANSITION TO SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY IS MORE EFFECTIVE FOR US IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK WITH THAT, WE ARE WRAPPING UP TO THE Q&A PART OF THIS.
I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND WE'RE ALL HERE TO HELP.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE YOU THE MOST INFORMATION WE CAN TO MAKE A GOOD RECOMMENDATION.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP?
>> WHERE DO THE CARS GO WHEN THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES ARE TRYING TO COME DOWN? HOW DOES THAT WORK?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, USUALLY THEY JUST SIT THERE TILL THE LIGHT TURNS GREEN.
SOMETIMES REAL NICE PEOPLE WILL TURN INTO A DRIVEWAY OR A SIDE STREET AND THEN DRIVE AROUND AND COME BACK OUT.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY WERE JUST STUCK THERE TILL THE LIGHT CHANGES ESPECIALLY IF BOTH LANES OF TRAFFIC ARE FULL AND BACKED UP OR JUST NOWHERE FOR HIM TO GO.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ON THE GRANT THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE.
WHEN DID YOU SAY THAT A DECISION ON THAT WOULD BE MADE?
>> WE WOULD HOPEFULLY HEAR BACK TO SEE IF WE WERE AWARDED THE GRANTS IN FALL 2023.
>> WHAT I STRUGGLE WITH IS THAT WE ARE A TOURIST TOWN.
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WE ARE PROMOTING BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITIES.I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON THE BIG SHIFT AND YET WE'RE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW WHAT NARROWER LANES ARE GOING TO DO TO OUR TRAFFIC.
I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A POINT TO BE REMEMBERED AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
THE COST IS HUGE AND IT OBVIOUSLY ISN'T SUSTAINABLE.
I'M JUST HESITANT BECAUSE BUTLER AND BEAVER ARE SUCH DANGEROUS ROADS FOR PEDESTRIAN AND BIKES, I'VE HAD PEOPLE TELL ME WHO RIDE THEIR BIKES THAT THEY DON'T RIDE IN THOSE LANES BECAUSE THEY'RE BAD.
WE WERE IN WASHINGTON DC A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND THEY SEEM TO BE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL WITH THESE CANDLESTICKS. I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE THEY'RE NOT AND THEY JUST APPEAR TO BE BY THE VISITORS.
[LAUGHTER] MAYBE THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT SYSTEM, BUT I'M HOPING WE HAD ENCOURAGING WORDS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THAT PED AND BIKE SAFETY AND ROADWORK LIKE THAT WERE RIGHT NOW THE BIG FOCUS OF OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT AN APPLICATION TO GET THE FINAL PRODUCT WITH A RAISED PED AND BIKE LANE WILL BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
I'M JUST STRUGGLING WITH WHAT TO DO IN THE INTERIM BECAUSE ONE ACCIDENT OR ONE FATALITY IS TOO MANY.
ALTHOUGH WE HAVE HAD AN INCREASE IN ACCIDENTS, JUST I DON'T KNOW.
I FEEL LIKE MAYBE THERE'S OTHER SOLUTIONS.
MAYBE IT'S NOT THE CANDLESTICKS, BUT I KNOW ON THAT MY HUSBAND'S A TERRIBLE DRIVER.
I HOPE HE'S NOT WATCHING RIGHT NOW.
BUT I KNOW ON THE FREEWAY WHEN HIS WORSE OFF, WHEN HE'S NOT PAYING ATTENTION, THE ROAD IS GREATER TO WHERE IT WAKES YOU UP.
I'M THINKING IS THAT A POSSIBILITY TO MAKE IT, I KNOW THE BUMPS IN THE ROAD MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE FOR SNOW REMOVAL, BUT SOMETHING TO ALERT PEOPLE IF THEY GET OFF THE ROAD TO GET BACK AWAY FROM THE BIKE LANE, IS THAT ANYTHING POSSIBLE?
>> IT WAS AN IDEA THAT WAS EXPLORED.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH A TON OF DIFFERENT IDEAS.
WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THERE'S A LOT OF NEGATIVE FEEDBACK WITHIN THE INNER CITIES THAT PUTTING IN RUMBLE STRIPS, BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIG OUTCOMES OF RUMBLE STRIPS IS NOISE.
IF PEOPLE BUMP THEM OR RUB THEM, YOU'RE CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY CREATE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL NOISE.
WHILE IN SOME WAYS ARE REALLY GOOD, I'M SURE WE'VE EVEN HEARD OF IN THE MIDST OF TOWN, YOU CAN HEAR SEMI-HIT AND THE RUMBLE STRIP OUT ON THE HIGHWAY.
IT'D BE SIMILAR TO THAT OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE LESS IMPACTFUL BASED ON SPEED, BUT ONE OF THE BIG IMPACTS WE HEAR ABOUT ARE NOISE IMPACTS.
>> IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THE BIGGEST ISSUES ARE IN THE WINTERTIME AND WE'VE GOT TILL THE FALL TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS GRANT, THEY WERE TO BE REMOVED, IS THERE ANY OPTION TO NOT START REMOVING UNTIL THIS FALL?
>> WELL, I THINK WE'RE IN A UNIQUE SPOT WHERE MOST OF THEM ARE REMOVED AT THIS POINT.
BUT NOW THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT THAT AREN'T REMOVED.
I DON T KNOW WHEN SCHEDULING WOULD EVEN BEGIN FOR REMOVAL, BUT UNTIL THEN IT WOULD STILL THEN WE CONTINUE AS IT IS.
IT'D BE A LOW-MAINTAINED ITEM.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD NOT MEET THE STANDARDS THAT WE WOULD HOPE TO MEET TO MAKE FOR A COMFORTABLE COMMUTE FOR THOSE UTILIZING IT, BUT IT COULD LAST UNTIL THE FALL.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WOULD GET SCHEDULED TO BE REMOVED.
ONE OF THE PIECES ON THAT DELAY TOO IS THE STRIPING.
WE'VE HELD OFF ON STRIPING UNTIL WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS.
BECAUSE STRIPING IS ACTUALLY FROM THE STREETS' PERSPECTIVE, IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT EACH YEAR.
IF WE DO STRIPE NOW AND WE TAKE IT OUT IN THE FALL, WE HAVE TO PAY SOMEONE TO COME IN AND WHAT WE CALL OBLITERATE THE LINES SO WE CAN MOVE THE LANES BACK TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE IN THE SENSE.
WE'RE IN THIS WEIRD TUTORING AREA OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS WHICH WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS.
IT'S A FRUSTRATING ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORKING AND YET, I LOOK AT THE SEPARATED BIKE PATHS THAT ARE DOWN WHERE I LIVE LIKE MARY AND LONE TREE,
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AND THOSE AREN'T MAINTAINED AND SO BICYCLISTS AREN'T RIDING THEM.IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS IS PART OF THAT OVERALL BIGGER ISSUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SOLUTIONS, BUT WE'RE JUST NOT WORKING.
I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
>> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION TONIGHT.
CAN I ASK A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE GRANT AND WHERE WE'RE AT ON IT? WHO'S ACTUALLY WRITING IT AND DO YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET IT SUBMITTED ON TIME?
>> SURE. YEAH. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.
WE JUST HIRED A NEW TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, CHRIS, AND HE'S BEEN HARD AT WORK AT THIS SINCE HE'S GOTTEN HERE.
WE'RE WORKING WITH METRO PLAN TO GET THIS SUBMITTED.
WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH THEM TO GO OVER THE PROCESS.
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO STAY CBK TO GET THE APPLICATION PROCESS GOING.
WE'VE GOTTEN A PACKET BACK AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FILLING THAT OUT, AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN TURN IT IN BY JULY 10TH.
>> THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. THEN I THINK THIS IS FOR SAM.
SPEAKING OF THE UPKEEP OF THE PEANUT BUFFER MARKINGS, DO YOU ANTICIPATE IF WE GO THAT ROUTE NOW OR IN THE FUTURE THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR AND KEEP THOSE MARKINGS BRIGHT AND VISIBLE?
>> YEAH, SO THAT'S A MUCH EASIER PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO STAY UP ON.
ULTIMATELY, THE GOAL OF THE STRIPING CREW IS TO DO IN EARLY SPRING AND THE LATE FALL.
TO KEEP UP WITH THOSE MARKINGS SO THAT WAY THEY'RE GOOD GOING INTO WINTER AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY GET REMOVED IN WINTER, SO WE TRY AND REFRESH THEM IN THE SPRING.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S REALLY HELD US UP IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS BEEN OUR FLOOD RESPONSE.
IF ALL WE COULD DO IS JUST FOCUS ON STREET MAINTENANCE, IT'S EASY TASK.
WHEN WE THROW FLOOD INTO THERE AND THEN WE THROW ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURES IN THERE, THAT'S WHERE WE START FALLING BEHIND ON THEM.
BUT ULTIMATELY, THIS IS A MUCH EASIER PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO KEEP UP WITH WHEN THE BIG LONG-LINE MACHINE CAN GET TO IT.
>> THANK YOU AND I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, MAYOR. I'M JUST CURIOUS.
THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO LEAVE THE BEAVER AND TAKE OUT THE BUTLER.
I'M WONDERING, DO YOU KNOW WHY THAT WOULD BE?
>> YEAH. I THINK THAT WAS ACTUALLY FROM THE BICYCLE COMMISSION, WHICH WAS ON THAT RECOMMENDATION.
ONE OF THE PIECES WAS, AS WE WENT THROUGH OUR PRESENTATION, THE PERCEPTION THEY HAD WAS THAT THE BEAVER STREET CORRIDOR WAS MORE FUNCTIONAL BECAUSE THEY HEARD LESS, I GUESS COMMUNITY FEEDBACK FROM IT.
WHAT WE'VE FOUND IS ACTUALLY THAT A MAJORITY OF THE CURBS, OVER 50% OF THE CURBS THAT HAVE BEEN DESTROYED AND IMPACTED CAME FROM THE BEAVER STREET CORRIDOR IN ADDITION TO THE BUTLER ONES.
WE'RE SEEING JUST AS MANY IMPACTS.
OBVIOUSLY, THE CRASH DATA IS SO MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT ON BUTLER VERSUS BEAVER STREET.
BUT EITHER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT, THEY'RE BOTH IN THE SAME BOAT.
I THINK THERE'S MORE ROOM ON THE BEAVER STREET INFRASTRUCTURE TO DO A REALLY NICE BUFFERED STRIPED SYSTEM UP THERE AND STILL KEEP A GOOD SAFE CORRIDOR AND MAYBE GET OUR NUMBERS TRENDING IN A BETTER DIRECTION.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE MORE THOUGHTS, BUT I'LL WAIT ON THEM FOR EVERYONE ELSE. THANK YOU.
>> I WAS WONDERING IF I COULD JUMP IN REAL QUICK, YOUR HONOR.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY- [OVERLAPPING]
>> SINCE YOU CALLED ME, YOUR HONOR, YOU BET. [LAUGHTER].
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE RECOMMENDATION.
IN THE PAST, BACK IN JUNE 2022, WE DID RECOMMEND KEEPING BEAVER, BUT OUR CURRENT RECOMMENDATION THIS YEAR IS TO REMOVE THE SEPARATE FACILITIES ON BOTH FACILITIES AND REPLACE THEM WITH THE PAINTED BUFFER.
SAM TOUCHED ON SOME OF THOSE REASONS, JUST SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE REASONS ON BEAVER, AND YES, SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT REAL QUICK. THANK YOU.
>> DO NOT HEAR THIS QUESTION AS BLAMING ANYBODY ABOUT ANYTHING, BUT HAVE WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE STREETS, THE BIKES AND EXPLAIN TO THEM OUR CHALLENGES WITH ALL OF THESE OPTIONS AND TO HEAR IF THEY HAVE ANY SOLUTIONS? BECAUSE PART OF WHAT WE DO IS WE SEE A PROBLEM AND THEN WE TRY AND THINK ABOUT HOW COULD WE SOLVE THAT.
I WOULD JUST WANT- BECAUSE SOMETIMES, TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO USE THOSE STREETS AND WHO REALLY UNDERSTANDS THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT THERE MIGHT BE OUT-OF-THAT-BOX THINKING BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THE OUT-OF-THE-BOX THINKING.
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JUST A QUESTION.NOT TELLING YOU TO DO ANYTHING.
>> I ALWAYS ENJOY YOUR QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE'VE ALL COMMUNICATED WITH MANY OF OUR CYCLING COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
ACTUALLY, ONE THAT I'VE HAD SEVERAL COMMUNICATIONS WITH IS IN THE BACK WITH US TODAY.
IT'S ADAM SHIMONI, IF YOU HAVEN'T MET HIM.
[LAUGHTER] WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THIS AND THERE ARE A LOT OF IDEAS OUT THERE.
A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HEAR ARE ULTIMATELY THE LONG-TERM INFRASTRUCTURE, GETTING THE BIKE LANES OFF OF THE ROADWAY, AND I THINK HONESTLY, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO GET THERE, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR MOST SUCCESSFUL INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THESE CORRIDORS THAT WEREN'T DESIGNED FOR THIS MODERN DAY THINKING.
WE HAVE THIS MODERN-DAY THINKING AND WE'RE TRYING TO BE THIS SAFER MULTIMODAL COMMUNITY, BUT WHEN WE DESIGN THE INFRASTRUCTURE INITIALLY, THAT WASN'T THE INITIAL THOUGHT.
WE'RE NOW WE'RE TRYING TO RETROFIT.
SOME OF THE RETROFIT WHEN WE WORK SOME OF THESE ITEMS LIKE THIS HERE, WE'RE LEARNING A LOT AS WE GO THROUGH THESE PILES.
SOME OF THOSE COMMUNICATIONS, A LOT OF THOSE COMMUNICATIONS HAVE BEEN HAD TO TRY AND GET THAT FEEDBACK AND A LOT OF THAT IS REALLY SHIFTING TOWARDS THAT RAISED SEPARATED INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WHILE I FULLY SUPPORT THAT, IT ALSO COMES WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL IMPACTS, SO WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THOSE NEEDS OUT; HOW DO WE GET THROUGH THE INTERIM? HOW DO WE KEEP OUR DATA AND OUR NUMBERS, IF NOT INCREASING BUT DECREASING UNTIL WE CAN GET TO THAT LONG-TERM GOAL.
BUT I THINK YOU'RE SPOT ON, AND YOU'RE THINKING THE WAY WE ARE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. YESTERDAY I WITNESSED A SEMI-TRUCK RIG AND THE TRUCK WENT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE LANE, BUT THE REAR OF THE TRAILER, IT WENT COMPLETELY OVER THE CURB, SO THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION.
IF WE COMPARE HOW WIDE THE LANE IS NOW WITH THE CANDLESTICKS AND EXTRA CURBS, HOW WOULD THAT WIDTH IN THE CAR LANE COMPARE TO THE FINAL DESIGN THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHICH IS THE RAISED BIKE LANE? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
>> I MIGHT NEED JEFF'S HELP ON THIS ONE.
>> JEFF, COULD YOU HELP US ON THIS?
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JEFF BOWMAN, CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
THIS IMAGE MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE.
WELL, ACTUALLY WE HAVE- LET ME GO BACK.
>> THIS IS A GOOD IMAGE. THE TRAVEL LANES ARE GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR.
THE BUTLER AVENUE, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS STANDARD WHEN WE WENT OUT AND MEASURED IT LAST YEAR OR A YEAR BEFORE NOW TO DO ALL THIS LAYOUT, THE LANES AND THE WIDTH CHANGE ON US.
WE'RE CLOSE TO 11 FEET IN MOST PLACES.
WE DID GET A LITTLE BIT NARROWER IN SOME, AND I THINK WE ACTUALLY GOT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER IN SOME PLACES.
WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE FUTURE IS- AND THIS IMAGE ISN'T PERFECT- BUT THIS LANE NEXT TO THE MEDIAN WILL HAVE A YELLOW STRIPE, LIKE- THE CURSOR IS STUCK.
IT'LL BE 11 FEET PLUS THE FOOT UP AGAINST THE CURVES.
SO IT'LL BE ROUGHLY A FOOT WIDER THAN WE HAVE TODAY.
THE OUTSIDE LANE WILL BE A CONSISTENT 11 FEET TO WHAT WE CALL THE LIP OF THE GUTTER AND THEN THAT'S 18 INCHES WIDE.
WE'RE GOING TO GAIN A LITTLE BIT OF WIDTH.
>> IF YOU COUNTED THE GUTTER, THE PART THAT'S AT STREET LEVEL, THE LANE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT WIDER THAN IT IS NOW.
>> IT WILL BE A FOOT AND A HALF WIDER THAN IT IS NOW, AND AS WE DEVELOP THESE PROTECT INTERSECTIONS, WE TAKE A LOOK AT TURNING TEMPLATES WITH THE TRUCKS.
TREVOR MENTIONED THAT EARLIER IN HIS PRESENTATION.
WE LOOK AT THE TURNING TEMPLATES WITH THE TRUCKS AND WE CAN PULL THE CURBS BACK AND WE HAVE SOME MOUNTABLE SECTIONS ON THOSE CURB RETURNS AT THE INTERSECTIONS, AS OPPOSED TO THE TEMPORARY VERTICAL CURVE THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
WE'VE PULLED THEM BACK IN MANY PLACES, BUT WE CONTINUE TO HEAR ABOUT CERTAIN SPOTS LIKE, DUTCH BROTHERS, I'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS STILL AN ISSUE.
>> WHAT I SAW YESTERDAY WHERE THE TRUCK ACTUALLY HIT THE CURB, IF IT HAD AN EXTRA 18 INCHES, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OKAY, IT WOULDN'T HAVE HIT A CURB.
IF WE GOT A LITTLE BIT WORSE, THEY COULD GO UP ON THE CURB, MAYBE SIX INCHES OR SOMETHING.
>> WE WILL TRY TO DESIGN NOT TO GET ON THOSE SIDEWALKS AND THOSE BIKE LANES EXCEPT AT THE INTERSECTIONS WHERE WE HAVE THE MOUNTABLE SECTIONS.
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BUT THE SHORT STORY IS THAT THERE'S AN EXTRA FOOT OR TWO HERE OR THERE, AND I THINK IT WILL MAKE A DECENT AMOUNT OF DIFFERENCE.>> THANK YOU, JEFF, AND THANK YOU, MAYOR.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I THINK FOR ME, THE CHALLENGE THAT I'M HAVING IN THIS TO SEMI-GO ALONG WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, IS WHAT'S FEELING LIKE AN IMBALANCE BETWEEN THE IMPACTS TO BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN VERSUS THE PERCEIVED IMPACT TO VEHICLE EASE ON THE ROADS.
LOOKING AT THE COLLISION NUMBERS AND CRASH DATA, IT SEEMED LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WERE FALLING INTO THE CATEGORIES OF SIDESWIPES OR REAR-ENDING, WHICH DON'T REALLY, IN MY MIND, SEEM TO BE FULLY CONNECTED TO THE BARRIERS THEMSELVES.
I'M TRYING TO CAREFULLY ASK THIS QUESTION, SO I WILL WATCH THE CITY ATTORNEY IN CASE I GET THIS WRONG.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU, SAM, AND FROM THE POLICE CHIEF, IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, DO THE BARRIERS THEMSELVES REPRESENT A SAFETY RISK, AND IS THAT RISK MORE SO TO VEHICLES OR THE BICYCLISTS?
>> WELL, THAT TOO IS A GOOD QUESTION.
HONESTLY, FROM A PROFESSIONAL OPINION, I WOULD SAY YES.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE IN NUMBERS, AND THE ONLY CATALYST THAT HAS CHANGED HAS BEEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
WHAT WE'RE SEEING, THAT'S THE ONLY VARIABLE THAT'S CHANGED IN THAT AREA.
RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY, YES, UNFORTUNATELY.
I WISH THAT WASN'T THE CASE, BUT- SORRY.
>> CARRY ON. [OVERLAPPING] I WOULD JUST SAY THAT'S ABOUT THE MOST DETAILED WE COULD GET, OTHERWISE, WE WOULD NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR SOME LEGAL ADVICE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE, SHE WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE CHIEF AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.
WHAT WE SAW DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE SNOW, THE SNOW WOULD BUILDUP ON THE BEARS AND IT BASICALLY INSTEAD OF A FLAT ROAD, IT WOULD CREATE A DITCH, AND SO TWO CARS ARE GOING DOWN, BUT NOW THEIR OUTSIDE WHEELS ARE UP ON THE STITCH.
THEN WHEN IT NARROWED, IT WENT INTO ONE LANE AND SO THESE TWO CARS MET.
THAT WAS THE MANNER OF THE SIDESWIPED.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH THE SIDESWIPED.
SO THOSE ARE MORE DANGEROUS FOR DRIVERS.
ON THE CYCLISTS, I CYCLE SOMETIMES MOST WEEKENDS BUT I HAVEN'T USED THE SEPARATED BIKE LANES BECAUSE THEY'RE FULL OF DEBRIS, SOI HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN THERE BUT I DID OBSERVE DURING THE WINTER STORM SO THAT SNOW COLLECTS ON THE BARRIERS AND THEN AS IT MELTS, IT CREATES ICE AND ICE FLOWS INTO THAT BIKE LANE, WHICH HAVING DONE A FACE PLANT OFF ICE ONCE BEFORE, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I WOULD WANT TO TRY.
IT DOES CREATE SOME SAFETY ISSUES FOR THE CYCLISTS BUT I'M SURE MY FRIEND, MR. CHAMONI IN THE BACK COULD SPEAK TO THAT PROBABLY MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN ME. THANKS.
>> THANK YOU BOTH, AND I'LL JUST SAY, FOR MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT REALLY IS THE HESITATION THAT I'M HAVING WITH THIS IS, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING WITH THE BARRIERS AS THEY EXIST NOW AND I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR DESIRE IS TO MOVE TOWARDS THE ELEVATED SIDEWALKS AND THE SEPARATION IN THAT WAY.
I THINK MY HESITATION IS MOVING WHAT FEELS LIKE IN A SOMEWHAT BACKWARDS DIRECTION TO JUST THE PAINTED LINES WITH NO INFRASTRUCTURAL PROTECTION WITHOUT THE CERTAINTY OF THE GRANT FUNDING BUT I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE MORE OF THE DISCUSSION, BUT THAT'S JUST WHERE MY MIND IS AT RIGHT NOW.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
>> I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO EXPLAIN THIS TO ME.
YOU KNOW THOSE GRADES THAT ARE, THERE'S A CURVE AND THEN YOU STEP DOWN TO THE STREET AND THERE ARE THOSE GRADES AND WATER GOES DOWN THERE.
WHERE DO THOSE GO WHEN YOU RAISE THE SIDEWALK IN THE BIKE LANE? I'M JUST CURIOUS. I MEAN, I'M SURE SOMEBODY'S FIGURED THAT OUT.
>> IT WOULD JUST GET DESIGNED INTO IT.
THE INLET WOULD JUST GET SHIFTED OVER TO CAPTURE IT.
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IN MANY CASES, THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY REBUILD THAT.>> THEY PUT THEM ON THE ACTUAL SIDEWALK OR THE BIKE LANE OR WHEREVER? I KNOW A WEIRD QUESTION, BOB.
>> NO, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. MAYBE I CAN USE MY EXHIBIT AGAIN, SO THEY WOULD BE RIGHT HERE TODAY AND THEY HAVE TO BE MOVED OUT TO THIS LOCATION.
THAT'S ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANT EXPENSES OF CONVERTING.
NO? THAT WHERE THE THE BIKE IS RIGHT THERE.
THAT BLACK LINE, THAT'S LITTLE LIP OR IT'S A LITTLE CURVE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT LITTLE BLACK LINE IS THE CURVE, AND THEN THE GUTTERS WE CALL THEM THE CURB, AND THEN GUTTER. [OVERLAPPING]
>> SO IT'S NOT LEVEL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> RIGHT, AND THE INLET STRUCTURE WOULD GO IN THE GUTTER.
JUST LIKE TODAY, BUT YOU HAVE TO MOVE THEM OUT.
>> THAT EXPLAINS IT. THANK YOU.
THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES WITH THIS CONVERSION.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I KNOW YOU SAID IT, BUT I DIDN'T CATCH IT.
THE ESTIMATED 7-10 MILLION TO DO THE RAISED SIDEWALKS.
HOW MUCH DOES THAT COVER ALL OF BUTLER OR JUST BUTLER TO LONE TREE?
>> THANK YOU. I CAN CLARIFY THAT ONE AND WE HAVE A GOOD EXHIBIT FOR THAT AS WELL.
THE NEW RAISED SIDEWALK CONFIGURATION WOULD BE MILTON TO SAWMILL, SO THE SAME EXTENT THAT WE HAVE THE TEMPORARY BARRIERS TODAY AND THEN THE GRANT PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES THE TWO SEPARATED PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS AT BEAVER AND BUTLER AND SAN FRANCISCO AND BUTLER.
THEN WE'RE PROPOSING BUFFERED BIKE LANES OUT TO PONDEROSA PARKWAY, SO JUST PAST SAM'S CLUB.
>> EARLIER WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR PROTECTED INTERSECTION PROJECTS WERE ALREADY IN PROCESS.
WE WEREN'T WAITING FOR FUNDING.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE CAN HAVE A TWO-PRONGED APPROACH.
WE'RE CURRENTLY DESIGNING THE TWO PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS, AND WE HAVE A POT OF FUNDING, ROUGHLY TWO MILLION DOLLARS FOR THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS, BUT CONSTRUCTION WOULDN'T BEGIN UNTIL AT LEAST NEXT SUMMER AND BY THEN WE WOULD KNOW IF WE WERE AWARDED THIS GRANT WHICH PAID FOR BOTH THE INTERSECTIONS, THE TWO CROSSINGS, THE SEPARATED BIKE LANES AND THE BUFFERED BIKE LANES.
WE COMBINE ALL THOSE INTO THE GRANT PROJECT AND THEN THE CITY MATCH IS COINCIDENTALLY TWO MILLION DOLLARS.
WITH THE GRANT, WE GET OBVIOUSLY CONSIDERABLY MORE INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> THIS LAST YEAR, WE SPENT A MILLION DOLLARS ON MAINTENANCE, CORRECT?
>> NO. WE SPENT ROUGHLY A MILLION DOLLARS THE FIRST YEAR TO DO THE INSTALLATION, [OVERLAPPING] GET EVERYTHING SETUP AND THEN WE SPENT ABOUT $50,000 THE FIRST WINTER AND ABOUT 100,000 THE SECOND WINTER.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
>> I'M SORRY, MAYOR TO INTERRUPT.
I WANTED TO JUMP IN AND OFFER SOME COMMENTS AS YOUR MANAGER.
I DID NOT DO SO IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR, BUT I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS I'D LIKE TO SHARE NOW IF IT'S OKAY AND I DO SO WITH FULL RESPECT TO COUNCIL AS A POLICY MAKING BODY.
THERE'S A STRONG ADMINISTRATIVE ELEMENT OF THIS, OF COURSE, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STREET INFRASTRUCTURE AND WITH IT, MAINTENANCE AND ACCIDENTS AND COMPLAINTS AND THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT.
I'M NOT GOING TO ECHO THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID.
I'LL TRY TO KEEP MY COMMENTS FRESH.
I DON'T BELIEVE THE PILOT PROJECT IS SHOWING SUCCESS, AND I THINK SUCCESS IS THE UNDERLYING INTENT BEHIND A PILOT PROJECT IS TO TEST, TO SEE IF IT WORKS.
I WILL NOT GO AS FAR AS TO SAY IT'S A FAILURE, BUT I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST IT'S NOT A SUCCESS, AND WITH THAT COMES SOME RISK IN KEEPING IT, AND THAT IS, AS WE'RE SEEING INCREASED ACCIDENTS AND INCREASED COMPLAINTS AND DEFINITELY INCREASED COST IN MAINTENANCE.
WHAT IS THE DOWNSIDE IN PERPETUATING THAT SITUATION? THE DOWNSIDE IS, OVER TIME THERE COULD BE ENOUGH PUSH-BACK AGAINST THIS PILOT PROJECT TO WHERE IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE OF A DIVISIVE ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY BETWEEN CYCLISTS AND DRIVERS, OR DRIVERS AND CYCLIST, AND MAY IMPEDE FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.
I DON'T WANT TO EMBELLISH THAT, BUT I DO THINK THERE'S SIGNIFICANCE TO KEEPING OUR PROJECTS AND OUR PILOT PROJECTS GEARED FOR SUCCESS AND NOTHING BUT THAT.
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IF WE SEE THAT THEY ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL, I THINK IT BRINGS ABOUT A DIFFICULT DISCUSSION, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT.BUT AGAIN, I DO THINK THERE'S RISK IN PERPETUATING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT PROVEN TO WORK AS PLANNED.
I WANT TO SHARE TOO, A FLAW IN THE PROJECT THAT I SEE AND I HAVE SHARED WITH THE ENGINEERS MORE THAN ONCE, IS THE HIGHLY FRAGMENTED BARRIER ARRANGEMENT IN SOME AREAS, TYPICALLY WHERE YOU HAVE A LARGE OR HIGH INTERFACE OF DRIVEWAYS INSIDE TRAFFIC.
I DON'T BELIEVE TWO OR THREE CURB STOPS IN FRAGMENTED FASHION, SOLVE A LOT.
I THINK THEY CREATE A LOT OF OBSTRUCTION AND ANECDOTALLY, THOSE ARE THE CURB STOPS THAT I HAVE SEEN BECOME THE MOST DAMAGED, THE MOST QUICKLY.
BUT IT'S NOT A CONTINUOUS ARRANGEMENT, IT'S A VERY FRAGMENTED ARRANGEMENT AND I THINK THAT CREATES UNCERTAINTY BOTH WITH THE DRIVER AND WITH THE CYCLIST.
I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR AND I THINK IT'S SAFE FOR ME TO MAKE THIS STATEMENT.
THIS IS NOT AN EFFECTIVE PROJECT IN A SNOWY COMMUNITY.
WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT LOCATIONS WHERE THIS HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL, AND I WOULD AGREE THAT INDEED IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL ELSEWHERE.
EUGENE, OREGON IS NOT AS SNOWY COMMUNITY.
MANY OF THE BIG CITIES, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY HAVE SOME SNOW, HAVE DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
MOSTLY SLOWER TRAFFIC IN THE CORE OF THE CITY TO WHERE PROJECTS LIKE THIS MAY MAKE MORE SENSE AND THEY DO NOT HAVE DRIVEWAY INTERFACES.
THE REFERENCE WAS MADE TO BOULDER, MY HOMETOWN, AND I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THE PILOT PROJECT THAT OCCURRED THERE WAS HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL.
THEY DO NOT USE THE CONCRETE CURB STOPS THAT WE NOW SEE, THEY'VE GONE TO A MOUNTABLE DOMED ARRANGEMENT, WHICH MEANS CYCLISTS CAN GO OVER THESE LIKE VEHICLES CAN, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BARRIER, BUT NOT REALLY.
WITH OUR NEW ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE THAT MARTIN SPOKE TO, I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE WILL EMPHASIZE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MOVING FORWARD AND I ASK THAT WE REFERENCE SOME OF THE PROJECTS IN PLAY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU IN OUR COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHAT IS BEING PURSUED.
NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE OFF MY MANAGERS HAT AND TALK TO YOU AS A CYCLIST.
I AVOID BARRIERED BIKE WAYS PRETTY MUCH AT ALL COSTS.
IF I'M CYCLING IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT WHICH I DO, I TAKE ROUTES THAT I KNOW ARE SAFE, WHERE I KNOW I CAN EXERCISE DEFENSIVE MANEUVERS.
BEING TUCKED AWAY ON THE SIDE OF A ROAD AT ALL TIMES COMES WITH RISKS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE HIGH SIDE TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE BACKING OUT OF DRIVEWAYS.
YOU ARE THE LEAST LIKELY THING TO BE SEEN.
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PASSING CARS.
THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR CYCLISTS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
IN THAT SITUATION, I WEAVE IN AND OUT OF THE DRIVING LANE TO MAKE MYSELF MORE VISIBLE AS I NEED TO AND I DO SO SAFELY BECAUSE I TRY TO KEEP AWARENESS OF WHO IS BEHIND ME AND WHO'S IN FRONT OF ME.
THAT'S THE DEFENSIVE NATURE OF CYCLING IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
AS WE FIND OURSELVES TRYING TO BE PROTECTED WITH VERTICAL BARRIERS, VISIBLE BARRIERS, I THINK SOMETIMES IT MAY BRING ABOUT A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY.
I PREFER TO TAKE MY CHANCES AND KNOW HOW TO KEEP UP WITH TRAFFIC IF I NEED TO.
WHEN I CAN'T DO THAT, I FIND ROUTES THAT ARE SAFER, BUT GOING TO THE CHIEFS COMMENTS, THE BARRIERS, BIKE LANES HOLD DEBRIS AND THEY HOLD DEBRIS FOR MOST THE WINTER AND INTO THE SPRING.
THEY ARE NOW SEEING SOME REMOVAL OF THAT.
I WILL GO TO PLACES WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A MARKED BIKE LANE THAT GETS SWEPT RIGHT ALONG WITH THE DRIVING LANES.
WEST AVENUE IS MY GO-TO WHEN I'M GOING INTO THE CITY.
I CROSS 66 WITH A LIGHT AND I'M ON A RAISED DETACHED BIKE LANE ALL THE WAY INTO THE CITY IS AS SAFE AS CAN BE.
I WON'T RIDE BEAVER BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT MY PREFERRED ROUTE AND I WON'T RIDE BUTLER BECAUSE IT IS CONGESTED AND SPEEDY.
IT SERVES LITTLE PURPOSE FOR ME TO TALK ABOUT THOSE.
I WANTED TO SHARE THOSE COMMENTS WITH YOU AND THANKS FOR LETTING ME NOT JUST SPEAK AS YOUR MANAGER, BUT OFFERING SOME COMMENTS AS A FELLOW CYCLIST. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. YOU REFERENCED THAT
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THE LANES ARE NARROWER AND I KNOW WHEN THE CURBS WERE PUT DOWN, THEY WERE PUT DOWN OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING BIKE LANES, CORRECT? HOW MUCH OF THE VEHICLE LANES WERE TAKEN UP? HOW MUCH NARROWER, I GUESS, IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT ARE THE TWO LANES?>> I'M GOING TO GO OFF OF MEMORY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THOSE PLANS IN A YEAR-AND-A-HALF OR SO, BUT AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH 11-FOOT LANES IN THIS FUTURE CONFIGURATION, ROUGHLY PLUS THE GUTTER PAN AND THE YELLOW BUFFER.
WE GET A LITTLE BELOW THAT IN SOME SECTIONS OF BUTLER WITH THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION WITH THE BARRIERS, AND WE MAY BE JUST SLIGHTLY BIGGER IN SOME AREAS AS WELL, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED IT.
WE HAD A FOUR, FOUR-AND-A-HALF OF BIKE LANE AND WE TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT WIDTH.
THEN WE PUT THE BARRIER IN AND THEN WE ADDED THE WHITE STRIPE AND THEN THE CARS.
WE DID TAKE ALL THE SPACE OUT OF THE VEHICLE SIDE OF BUTLER.
>> I THINK THE TRAVEL LANES GOT SIX INCHES NARROWER, MAYBE THREE-QUARTERS OF A FOOT IN SOME PLACES, IT JUST DEPENDS WHERE YOU'RE AT.
>> THE DIFFICULTY WITH THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES, IT SEEMS TO ME ON ANY ROAD AND THERE'S AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE COMING UP, PEOPLE IN THE LEFT LANE ARE SUPPOSED TO SLOW DOWN AND PULL BEHIND THE CAR THAT'S IN THE RIGHT LANE.
CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THAT CHANGES WITH THIS CONFIGURATION?
>> YOU'RE WANTING TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST THE CURRENT SITUATION VERSUS WHAT OUR PROPOSED FUTURE SITUATION IS, OR THE OLD NO BARRIER TO THE NEW BARRIER?
>> WHICHEVER. IN ANY TWO-LANE ROAD, IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE COMING UP BEHIND YOU, THE PERSON IN THE LEFT LANE IS SUPPOSED TO MOVE OVER TO THE RIGHT LANE TO GIVE THAT LEFT LANE TO THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE, CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. THEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GET TO THE FAR RIGHT AS A DRIVER.
NORMALLY, CITYFLEX THEY'VE CONFIGURED STREET, WE HAVE THAT 18-INCH GUTTER PAN.
THERE'S USUALLY FOUR-AND-A-HALF FEET OF BIKE LANE, AND MOST OF A CAR ACTUALLY FITS IN THE BIKE LANE AND CURB AND GUTTER SECTION, SO THEY JUST STICK OUT INTO THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT.
THAT'S TYPICAL. WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE THE BIKE LANE TO GET INTO ANYMORE AND IT'S A VERY NARROW LANE TO BEGIN WITH.
I THINK THE WINTER REALLY EXACERBATED THAT BECAUSE AS THE CHIEF DESCRIBED, THE AMOUNT OF SNOW AND THE BARRIER THAT WE COULDN'T QUITE GET TO, AND THEN WE'RE PLOWING THROUGH THE MIDDLE AND THAT DIDN'T QUITE HOLD ALL THE SNOW EITHER SO WE WERE SUPER SKINNY.
>> YOU WERE SEEING IT MORE IN THE WINTER THAN WITHOUT SNOW.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR AND MEMBER OF COUNCIL.
BECAUSE WITH THE BARRIERS THEY CAN'T PULL INTO THAT BIKE LANE, SO YOU CAN'T YIELD OVER TO THE RIGHT, SO YOU'RE STUCK.
THAT VEHICLE IN THE RIGHT LANE CAN'T GET OVER, SO THE ONE ON THE LEFT LANE CAN'T GET OVER.
ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE ALL SITTING BEHIND A RED LIGHT.
>> BUT DEFINITELY WORSE IN THE WINTER.
BUT EVEN IN THE SUMMER WITH THE BARRIERS INTACT, NO ONE CAN PULL OVER TO THE SIDE.
>> THANK YOU. [NOISE] SAM, YOU SAID THAT THERE HAS BEEN A MASSIVE INCREASE IN COMPLAINTS.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY, OR DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY YOU HAD BEFORE AND WHAT THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IS?
>> WE DO KEEP TRACK OF THAT THROUGH A SPREADSHEET.
WE TRY AND INPUT THAT INTO OUR SYSTEM CARTOGRAPHY.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS IF DESIRED, WE COULD TRY AND PULL OUT ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS.
DO NOTE THAT WE WERE RECEIVING ABOUT 400 CALLS A WEEK THROUGH THE WINTER, SO VETTING THROUGH THAT WILL TAKE US SOME TIME.
WOULD YOU SAY IT WAS EVENLY SPLIT BETWEEN CYCLISTS AND MOTORISTS OR MORE MOTORISTS?
>> SURPRISINGLY ENOUGH, WE HEARD A LOT FROM OUR CYCLING COMMUNITY.
I WAS SURPRISED WE DIDN'T HEAR AS MUCH FROM OUR MOTORING COMMUNITY.
I THINK MANY OF THE LOCALS HAVE TRIED TO ADAPT.
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WE RAN INTO A LOT OF ISSUES, WE'RE A TOWN THAT PROMOTES AND THRIVES OFF OF TOURISM.TOURISTS JUST DON'T ADAPT TO NEW INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE FOR A MOMENT.
WE EXPECTED TO SEE MORE ON THAT END, BUT FRANKLY, WE HEARD A LOT AND SAW A LOT FROM OUR CYCLING COMMUNITY.
IN PARTICULAR, IT WAS A MAINTENANCE ISSUE WITH THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT WAS JUST AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION.
>> THE ELEVATED BIKE LANES, WHAT DOES SNOW REMOVAL LOOK LIKE?
>> THE GOAL ON THIS, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BUT ONCE THEY TRANSITION OVER TO THIS RAISED SYSTEM, WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND A WAY, AND I DON'T WANT TO THROW REBECCA'S TEAM UNDER THE BUS HERE, BUT WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS OF WHICH GROUP WOULD MAINTAIN THAT.
STREETS DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO PLOW THOSE SEPARATED BIKE LANES.
WE'D HAVE TO FIND A FUNDING SOURCE TO HELP PARKS BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT MAINTENANCE IN AREAS WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY THE OWNERSHIP OF THE CURRENT RESIDENT OR BUSINESS OWNER WHO DOES THE MAINTENANCE.
BUT THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING ON THAT SIDE OF IT.
THEN FROM THE STREET SIDE, WE WOULD GO BACK TO THE STANDARD PLOW OPERATIONS, WHICH WOULD MEET THE CITY'S CURRENT DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE AND REDUCE THE ICE IMPACTS ON THE ROADWAYS.
WE WOULD WIND UP WITH SNOW STORED WHERE YOU SEE THAT BICYCLE SYMBOL ON THERE.
WITH THAT SAID, YOU WOULD HAVE ABOUT A TRUCK AND A PLOW WIDTH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BERM FOR BOTH CYCLING AND PEDESTRIANS.
IT GIVES YOU A SNOW STORAGE AREA WHERE IT REMOVES SOME OF THAT FROM THE STREET.
WE CAN KEEP, HOPEFULLY, THE LANES WIDTHS ON THE STREET.
BUT ULTIMATELY, THERE WOULD BE SOME SPACE THAT'S DESIGNED TO CAPTURE SOME SNOW IN THERE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A TRUCK WITH A SMALLER PLOW ON THE FRONT AND THEN ACTUALLY REMOVING THE SNOW FROM THE BIKE LANE AND THE SIDEWALK.
>> WE HAVEN'T HAD THE DISCUSSIONS THAT FAR ON IT YET, RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DESIGN WOULD BE AND IF WE MAKE IT THAT FAR WE KNOW WE HAVE THE STORAGE CAPACITY.
SNOW REMOVAL IS A BIGGER OPERATION.
IT DEPENDS ON WHO'S MANAGING THAT OPERATION, BUT ULTIMATELY IT TAKES 10 WHEEL DUMP TRUCKS.
THE 10 WHEEL DUMP TRUCKS IN THE STREETS DEPARTMENT ARE FULLY DRESSED FOR SNOW OPERATIONS.
IT TAKES THEM A FULL DAY TO TAKE THOSE BACK DOWN TO A POINT WHERE YOU CAN HAUL SNOW.
THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THOSE DELAY AND HAULING OUT OF SNOW.
CREWS WILL PLOW 24 HOURS A DAY UNTIL IT STOPS, AND THEY'LL COME STRAIGHT BACK IN AND THEY'LL WORK TO TRY AND DISASSEMBLE MANY OF THE TRUCKS, SO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE CAPACITY TO HAUL SNOW OPERATIONS.
THEN WE ONLY DO SNOW OPERATIONS IN THE OVERNIGHT HOURS.
ONE FOR TRAFFIC AND TWO FOR PARKING.
IT ALLOWS US TO WORK WITHOUT CARS PARKED IN THE ROADWAY, AND IT ALLOWS US TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE IN OUR OPERATIONS.
OUR DAYTIME OPERATIONS ARE JUST MUCH LESS EFFECTIVE WITH THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES MOVING AROUND ON THE ROADS. I HOPE THAT ANSWERED IT.
>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I'M A REALLY VISUAL PERSON.
IS THE RAISED BIKE LANES, IS THAT SIMILAR TO WHAT'S ON THE NAU CAMPUS IN FRONT OF THE CEMETERY GOING DOWN SAN FRANCISCO, WHERE THERE'S A BIKE? SO IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT? THANK YOU.
>> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT? YES.
>> THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK.
I KNOW YOU ASKED ABOUT COMPLAINTS AND I COULD SPEAK TO WHAT WE'VE HEARD ON THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE, IF YOU'D LIKE.
WE'VE HAD SINCE THE LAST UPDATE IN JUNE 2022, WE'VE HAD 19 PEOPLE REACH OUT TO YOU THROUGH PHONE CALL OR THROUGH EMAIL.
THREE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO REACHED OUT WERE IN FAVOR OF THE BIKE LANES, "HEY, THESE ARE GREAT LET'S KEEP THEM," AND THE OTHER 16 WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE DISAPPROVED OF THE BIKE LANES, THEY WANTED THEM REMOVED.
A PORTION OF THEM, I'D SAY MOSTLY WERE DRIVERS.
THERE WERE SOME BICYCLISTS, BUT A PORTION OF THEM HAD DAMAGED THEIR VEHICLE ON THE BARRIERS BECAUSE THEY ARE TELLING US ABOUT THAT.
ABOUT SOME OF THE DAMAGE AND JUST OVERALL WANTED TO REMOVE THEM, SO THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'VE SEEN ON OUR SIDE.
>> THANK YOU. THE 400 PHONE CALLS THAT YOU REFERENCED, SAM, WAS THAT JUST FOR [OVERLAPPING]
>> SORRY, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION.
THAT'S JUST THE CALL VOLUME THAT WE WERE RECEIVING THIS WINTER.
LIKE I SAID, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE FILTRATION TO GET DOWN TO THOSE.
I KNOW MANY OF THEM CAME THROUGH,
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UNFORTUNATELY, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL'S [LAUGHTER] EMAIL, AND I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE QUESTIONS AND THE WILLINGNESS TO UNDERSTAND THE OPERATION, BUT WE HAD THAT PLUS ON OUR SIDE, IT WAS SIGNIFICANT.>> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL, MAYOR, STAFF, ESPECIALLY STAFF.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT INFORMATION.
I KNOW WE ALL HAVE A LOT TO DECIDE ON, A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS TO TAKE IN HOW WE DO STUFF, WHAT WE DO.
I GUESS PART OF WHAT I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS WHOLE SITUATION IS REACTIVE VERSUS PROACTIVE.
I FEEL LIKE MUCH OF FLUX DEATHS, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE OFTEN BECOMES REACTIVE.
IT'S LIKE WE GOT THE MATT KELLY PEDESTRIAN OVERPASS AT BUFFALO PARK AFTER SOMEBODY LOST THEIR LIVES.
WE'RE GETTING SAFETY INTERSECTIONS THAT'D BE RUN BUTLER, SAN FRAN, AND BUTLER AFTER SOMEBODY LOST THEIR LIFE.
THAT'S TWO YEARS COMING UP THIS FRIDAY.
BIG MEMORIAL TO JOANNA WHEATON, WHO WAS AN UNFORTUNATE PERSON WHO HAD TO SUFFER FROM VEHICULAR VIOLENCE ON OUR STREETS.
ARE THESE BARRIERS THE BEST USE? MAYBE NOT. AGAIN, REACTIVITY.
IT'S QUICK, IT'S SCRAMBLING TO DO SOMETHING.
WHEREAS THE PROACTIVITY IS, LET'S WAIT, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PILOT PROGRAMS AND GIVING US INFORMATION TO DECIDE MORE.
BUT I THINK TAKING THEM OUT 100% COMPLETELY BEFORE WE HAVE A PLAN OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ALSO IS A DISSERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
WHATEVER THAT MIDDLE GROUND LOOKS LIKE, WE JUST NEED TO HAVE THAT CONSIDERATION.
SAYING THAT MY GREAT AUNT USED TO LOVE IS [FOREIGN] IF YOU'RE LAZY, YOU EITHER WORK TWICE OR YOU WORK TWICE AS HARD.
WHEN WE DON'T DO THINGS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.
WHEN WE DON'T CONSIDER THAT PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS ARE A HEALTHY AND VIABLE AND SOMETHING WE WANT TO SUPPORT AND PROMOTE, THEN WE'RE ALWAYS JUST TRYING TO RETROFIT FOR VEHICLES.
IT'S ALWAYS VEHICLES, 75% OF THE PIE CHART OF FUNDING IS FOR CARS AND THEN YOU GET THIS LITTLE BIT OF SPACE AND LITTLE BIT OF FUNDING CONSIDERATION FOR PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLISTS.
WELL, LET'S GO LOOK AT HEATMAPS.
WHAT ARE YOUR HEATMAPS OF PEDESTRIANS IN FLAGSTAFF? I WAS JUST WALKING OVER AT THE START OF COUNCIL, AND THERE WAS A BUNCH OF PEDESTRIANS IN A PARK, AND A BUNCH OF PEDESTRIANS DOWNTOWN, AND A BUNCH OF PEDESTRIANS WALKING FROM NORTHSIDE TO SOUTHSIDE TO THE UNIVERSITY ALWAYS BECAUSE WE HAVE A UNIVERSITY HERE.
YET WE BARELY ARE DOING THINGS TO PROTECT AND PROMOTE PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS IN THOSE HEAVILY PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AREAS.
I WOULD JUST SAY IF WHATEVER YOUR CONSIDERATION IS, THE FUNDING BE FOR THE MAJORITY OF USERS, WHICH IS PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS BECAUSE EVERYONE IN A CAR, WHEN YOU GET OUT OF A CAR, IF YOU'RE LUCKY, YOU'RE A PEDESTRIAN.
IF YOU'RE LUCKY, YOU GET TO WALK.
EVERY DRIVER IS A WALKER AS WELL.
EVERY DRIVER IS A PEDESTRIAN OR CYCLIST.
>> SORRY, I DIDN'T GET THE MEMO THAT ALL TRANSPORTATION PEOPLE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE WEARING WHITE CHECKED BUTTON DOWN SHIRTS. WHAT ELSE? I'M SUSAN HEFFLEY. I AM CHAIR OF THE FLAGSTAFF BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMISSION, ALSO A LIFETIME CYCLIST.
ALSO I WORK AT THE BIKE SHOP, BICI-MUNDO IN SOUTHSIDE.
I BIKE EVERYDAY AND IT'S WHAT KEEPS ME HEALTHY AND HAPPY.
OUR BIKE COMMISSION, I WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE BIKE COMMISSION AND PARTLY ON MY OWN.
WE WERE ALL SHOCKED AND DISAPPOINTED WHEN SIX MONTHS AGO THEY SAID,
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WE WANT TO TAKE THESE CURBS AND CANDLESTICKS OUT.IT'S A NEW PROJECT, SOMEBODY HAD TO DIE FOR IT.
WE WANT TO SEE SOMETHING POSITIVE HAPPEN FROM THIS.
THEN SIX MONTHS LATER, AGAIN, THE CITY WANTS TO REMOVE THE FIRST BIG THING THAT THE CITY HAS DONE TO SHOW ALL THE CITY FLAGSTAFF, THE CYCLIST, THAT THEY SUPPORT US, AND THAT WE WANT TO BE HELD SAFE.
THIS PROJECT WAS PUT IN PLACE WITHOUT ANY EDUCATION.
THAT MAKES IT THAT MUCH HARDER.
THE CURBS AND CANDLESTICKS SHOULD NOT BE REMOVED UNTIL AN ACCEPTABLE ALTERNATIVE IS IN PLACE, NOT THE FUNDING SECURED, BUT IS IN PLACE BECAUSE OTHER WORDS, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LEFT WITHOUT ANYTHING.
OUR GOAL, AND I EXPECT IT IS YOURS AS WELL, IS TO GET THE BULK OF THE CYCLIST THAT WANT TO RIDE A BIKE BUT ARE NERVOUS.
AND IN MOST CITIES, THIS IS ABOUT 60% OF THE TRAVELERS THAT THEY WANT A BIKE, BUT THEY ARE NERVOUS.
THEY ARE NOT AGGRESSIVE BICYCLISTS, THEY'RE NOT PART OF THAT UPPER LEVEL OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BIKE NO MATTER THE WEATHER, NO MATTER THE CONDITIONS AND THAT PROBABLY INCLUDES OUR CITY MANAGER AS WELL.
IT'S LURING THE 60% ONTO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS GOING TO HELP FLAGSTAFF MEET ITS CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS, MEET THE CLIMATE CHANGE EMERGENCY DECLARATION.
CYCLISTS COULD BE HELPING US SOLVE SO MANY PROBLEMS, IF WE CAN GET IT RIGHT.
THE BARRIERS ARE INCONVENIENT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO VERY CONVENIENT AND THEY HELP THAT 60% WHO ARE NERVOUS FIND A PLACE THAT THEY ARE COMFORTABLE RIDING.
WE URGE THAT IF YOU CAN'T KEEP THOSE, THEN YOU WAIT TILL WE GET THE FUNDING TO BRING IN THE RAISED SIDEWALKS, OR AT LEAST HAVE BUFFERS WITH SOME SITE OF RUMBLE STRIP OR RUMBLE STRIP LIGHT THAT WILL TELL CARS THEY'RE NOT IN THEIR RIGHT PLACE ANYMORE.
WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT CONVENIENCE FOR CARS, OR THAT'S WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE MAIN THING THAT KEEPS COMING DOWN IS CONVENIENCE FOR CARS AND BEING USED TO THAT.
THE MAIN THING WE NEED IS A SPEED LIMIT TO CONTROL TRAFFIC ON BUTLER.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, CEASE LEADERSHIPS, CEASE STAFF, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
I DID GET THE MEMO ABOUT THE SHIRTS AND I AM IN THEME. GOOD TO BE HERE.
I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF FLAGSTAFF BIKING ORGANIZATION RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS WRAPPING UP OUR BIKE TO WORK MONTH, WHICH WAS A HUGE SUCCESS.
IRONICALLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REMOVAL OF SEPARATED BIKE LANES.
I DID GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO RIDE THOSE BIKE LANES THIS MORNING, CHIEF, AND THEY WERE NICE.
THEY WERE CLEAR, THEY WERE MAINTAINED.
I COULD SAY I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CLEAR THOSE ONE MORE TIME, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOOD FOR THE NEXT TWO, THREE MONTHS.
SENIOR ANDREW I INVITE YOU TO RIDE THEM AS WELL BECAUSE I REALLY ENJOYED IT.
THE CARS, NO ONE WAS SWERVING INTO MY LANE, IN FRONT, BEHIND, NEXT TO ME.
THEY WERE ALL STAYING TWO FEET AWAY FROM THOSE BARRIERS AND I FELT PROTECTED. I REALLY DID.
I SPOKE TO NUMEROUS CYCLISTS WHO AGREED AND SAID, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING REMOVING THESE.
YEAH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IT.
I WOULD SAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN A SUCCESSFUL PILOT WITH CHALLENGES, INSIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES SPECIFICALLY AROUND MAINTENANCE.
FBO FULLY SUPPORTS TO CEASE FUTURE PLANS FOR THE BUTLER PILOT LANES AND THE TWO INTERSECTIONS.
FBO ALSO SUPPORTS THE CITY IDENTIFYING FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTS WHEREVER THE FUNDS MAY COME UP FROM.
WHETHER IT'S GRANT OR INTERNALLY, WE SUPPORT YOU ALL FINDING THOSE FUNDS.
FBO ALSO SUPPORTS THE BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S PASSIONATE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU DON'T REMOVE THESE AND KEEP THEM UNTIL FUNDING IS LOCATED AND SECURED.
BY THE WAY THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION MET BEFORE THE BIKE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MET, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO REPORT TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.
IT WAS A LITTLE BIT BACKWARDS AND THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION MADE A DECISION WITHOUT HEARING FROM THE BAC FIRST.
I DO WONDER IF THAT WOULD HAVE IMPACTED THEIR DECISION.
THE LANES ARE NOT PERFECT AND IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE, BUT THE SEPARATION IS A MASSIVE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR SAFETY, COMFORT, FOR DESIGN FOR EIGHT-YEAR-OLDS TO EIGHT-YEAR-OLDS.
SENIOR ANDREW AND ALL OF US CAN TAKE THE LANE AND RIDE WITH TRAFFIC AND WE'RE WITHIN THE ONE PERCENT CATEGORY OF COMFORTABLE RIDERS OUT THERE.
BUT THE GRANDPARENT OR THE CHILD, THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
THOSE ARE ALSO VALUES OF VISION ZERO AND THE BIG SHIFT, ATMP, TRAFFIC DEMAND MANAGEMENT ALLEVIATING CONGESTION.
FURTHER INVESTING IN THESE SEPARATIONS IS A LOT CHEAPER THAN BUILDING MORE ROADS FOR CARS.
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WE TALKED ABOUT $50,000 AND SAY, 50,000 OR 100,000 IS EXPENSIVE FOR MAINTENANCE.WHAT ABOUT $50,000,000 PROJECT FURTHER BILLING FOR THE CAR? THAT'S EXPENSIVE, NOT THE SMALL AMOUNT FOR MAINTENANCE.
THAT'S REALLY A DROP IN THE BUCKET IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.
BUFFERED BIKE LANES ARE NOT PROTECTED AND THEY'RE NOT PROTECTING RIDERS.
THEY OFTEN USE OR USED AS DUMPING GROUNDS FOR SNOW MAINTENANCE THROUGHOUT THE WINTER.
LOOK AT THE BIKE LANES ON 4TH STREET.
THEY ARE NOT MAINTAINED AT ALL AND ARE FULL OF CINDERS.
I HAVE SO MUCH MORE TO SAY, AND I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
MAINTENANCE HAS BEEN CHALLENGING AND I DID APPRECIATE THE IMPROVEMENTS.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I AM OUT OF TIME, BUT I HAVE SO MUCH MORE TO SAY.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD SO APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, ADAM. TYLER DENHAM.
>> HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS TYLER DENHAM.
I'M SPEAKING TODAY AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN.
I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THIS AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE I LIVE IN SOUTH SIDE AND COMMUTE OFTEN ALONG BUTLER, MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE PROTECTED BIKE LANES HAS BEEN MOSTLY POSITIVE.
I FEEL MUCH SAFER RIDING ALONG THAT PORTION OF BUTLER.
A PERSONAL PREFERENCE WOULD ACTUALLY BE TO EXTEND THE LANES DOWN THE FOURTH STREET SO I COULD BE PROTECTED FOR THE ENTIRETY OF MY COMMUTE.
THAT SAID, I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND STAFF RECOMMENDS TAKING DOWN THE PREDICTED LANES AND IMPLEMENTING A RAISED SIDEWALK DESIGN.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE THAT A RAISED SIDEWALK DESIGN IS THE GOLD STANDARD SOLUTION.
BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL LENGTH OF TIME BEFORE IT'S IMPLEMENTED, DURING WHICH THERE WILL BE NO PROTECTION AT ALL.
IF YOU DECIDE TO TAKE DOWN THE PROTECTED LANES, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DELAY THE TAKEDOWN AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MOST OF THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES ARISE DURING THE WINTER ANYWAYS, WHICH WE JUST CAME OUT OF.
IN ADDITION TO THAT ASK I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF STEMMING FROM THE PRIOR COMMISSION MEETINGS.
I DO APOLOGIZE IF THESE WERE COVERED DURING THE STAFF PRESENTATION IN Q&A, I WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE LIVE STREAM, BUT THE INTERNET OUTAGE.
ONE, PART OF THE JUSTIFICATION FOR REMOVING THE PROTECTED LANES IS AN INCREASE IN CAR CRASHES, 22 MORE THAN THE AVERAGE.
WHAT WAS THE NATURE OF THOSE CRASHES? WERE THEY SINGLE VEHICLE CRASHES CAUSING ON THE PROPERTY DAMAGE OR MULTI VEHICLE CRASHES, ONES WITH SERIOUS INJURIES? I ASK BECAUSE THE FORMER GROUP IS EXPECTED WHEN THE LINES ARE WORKING CORRECTLY.
WHEREAS BEFORE A VEHICLE WOULD SWERVE INTO THE BIKE LANE, POTENTIALLY TAKING OUT A CYCLIST, NOW THE VEHICLE BUMPS INTO THE LANES.
TWO, AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT INSTALLING CHEAP PLASTIC BULLETS AS A GAP SOLUTION.
THEY PROVIDE MORE OF A VISUAL CUE TO DRIVERS THAN THE PAINTED LINES.
THOUGH THEY WON'T PHYSICALLY STOP VEHICLES, THEY AT LEAST PROVIDE AN AUDITORY CUE WHEN SWERVING INTO THE BIKE LANE.
THIS IDEA WAS SHOT DOWN SUPPOSEDLY BECAUSE IT WAS TRIED BEFORE AND THE BOTTLERS NEVER LASTED MORE THAN A WEEK DUE TO VEHICLES CONSTANTLY KNOCKING THEM DOWN BY SWERVING INTO THE BIKE LANE.
THAT LINE WAS DEEPLY CONCERNING TO ME AND I WOULD APPRECIATE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
>> THANK YOU, TYLER. ON STAFF, I WAS A LITTLE UNCLEAR ABOUT THE ACCIDENTS AS WELL.
I WROTE DOWN JUST CARS HITTING CURBS OR BIKE CAR ACCIDENTS.
YOUR TABLE DIDN'T SHOW ANY, I THINK THERE WAS MAYBE ONE INJURY ACCIDENT.
I'LL START WITH THIS TABLE HERE.
THIS IS FOR THE FULL YEAR OF DATA.
WE USED ARIZONA CRASH INFORMATION SYSTEM FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS AND THEN POLICE DATA FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
WE LOOK TO TOTAL CRASHES FIRST, AND WE DID SEE THERE THAT THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN TOTAL CRASHES.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS LIKE WHAT WAS THE TYPES OF CRASHES THAT OCCURRED? FOR THIS DATA, WE'RE ABLE TO SUSS OUT IF IT WAS A BIKE CRASH.
OF THOSE 107 CRASHES IN 2022, THREE OF THEM REPORTED HAD BICYCLES INVOLVED, THREE OF THEM INVOLVED PEDESTRIANS, ONE WAS A SERIOUS INJURY CRASH, AND THERE'S NO FATALITIES.
WE COMPARE THESE TO THE YEARS PREVIOUSLY.
IF WE LOOK AT SERIOUS INJURY IN PARTICULAR, IT TRACKS WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST.
THERE'S ABOUT 1-3 SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES.
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WE DIDN'T REALLY SEE AN INCREASE IN SEVERITY SINCE THE BARRIERS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED.BUT WE DID SEE AN INCREASE IN FREQUENCY OF CRASHES AND THAT'S STILL WE FELT WAS ALARMING OR WAS A CONCERN.
WITH THE POLICE CRASH DATA, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO SUSS OUT THE TYPE OF COLLISIONS THAT WERE OCCURRING IF A SINGLE VEHICLE REAR-END, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT FOR THE ARIZONA CRASH INFORMATION SYSTEM DATA, WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT CRASH TYPES AND WE FOUND THAT IT WASN'T JUST SINGLE VEHICLES HITTING THE CURVES, IT WAS A COMBINATION OF THAT PLUS OTHER INCIDENTS.
WE SAW AN INCREASE IN SINGLE VEHICLE CRASHES, REAR ENDS, AND SIDE SWIPES.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ALSO TOUCHED ON WHY SIDE SWIPES COULD BE OCCURRING WITH THE NARROWING OF THE LANES.
>> IT DOES. CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE? IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN THE DATA COLLECTION BETWEEN WHAT YOU TYPICALLY USE FOR DATA COLLECTION AND THEN USING DATA FROM THE POLICE? COULD THAT ACCOUNT FOR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 55 AND 107?
>> THAT IS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
THERE IS I WOULD SAY MAYBE A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE FOR THE ARIZONA CRASH INFORMATION SYSTEM THAT INCLUDES DATA ALSO FROM THE COUNTY AND FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY TOLD ME THAT THE MAJORITY OF CRASHES OCCURRING ON BUTLER WOULD BE REPORTED BY PD, BUT THERE MIGHT BE A FEW THAT ARE MISSING.
BUT I THINK THE MOST CLEAR WAY TO LOOK AT THE TRENDS IS THAT THIS GRAPH HERE ONLY LOOKS AT ACIS DATA.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING JUST AT THAT DATA WITHOUT INCLUDING THE POLICE, WE SAW A SIMILAR TREND THAT CRASHES DOUBLED.
THAT'S WHY I WASN'T SURPRISED WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE POLICE DATA, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT FROM THE ARIZONA CRASH INFORMATION SYSTEM, IT'S STILL MATCHED THE TREND WE SAW FROM THE DATA WE NORMALLY USE IN MAYBE CHIEF MUSLIM CAN SPEAK MORE TO THE NATURE BETWEEN THOSE TWO SYSTEMS.
>> I THINK THE OTHER DIFFERENCES WHEN YOU LOOKED AT, YOU ONLY LOOKED AT SIX MONTHS.
THAT'S WHY HIS DATA, THIS IS SIX MONTHS OF DATA, WHEREAS THIS IS THE WHOLE YEAR.
THAT'S WHY THE NUMBERS ARE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS YOUR QUESTION.
THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT.
>> IT WAS THE OTHER SLIDE THAT I WAS LOOKING AT WHEN I ASKED WHETHER DIFFERENCE IN DATA COLLECTION COULD ACCOUNT FOR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2021 AND 2022.
THE ONLY THING WE CAN'T TELL, LIKE IT SAYS THREE BIKE CRASHES ARE THOSE BIKE VERSUS VEHICLE OR BIKE CRASHING ON ITS OWN? THAT I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT OR.
>> I'D SAY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WILL KNOW THIS SOON BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A CRASH INFORMATION DATA SHOULD BE UP-TO-DATE FOR THE FULL YEAR 2022, IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, I THINK IT'LL BE COMPLETELY UPDATED BY JULY.
BUT FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN, LOOKING AT THE SIX MONTHS WITH ACIS DATA AND LOOKING AT WHAT'S REPORTED BY THE POLICE, I THINK THE ONLY REAL DIFFERENCE WE'D SEE IS IF THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN LIKE A COUNTY OR DPS CRASH THAT WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED AND RECORDING.
BUT I THINK THAT THE CHANGE IS VERY SMALL COMPARED TO THE POLICE DATA, TO THE ACIS DATA.
I THINK THE POLICE DATA IS RELIABLE AND IT IS SHOWING WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE ROADS WHICH IS AN INCREASE IN COLLISIONS.
>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL JUST START BY SAYING THAT I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND WHAT I AM AFFECTIONATELY REFERRING TO AS THE CYCLIST MANAGER.
WHEN YOU TOOK OFF YOUR CITY MANAGER HAT AND THE PERSPECTIVE THAT YOUR COMMENTS BROUGHT TO THE CONVERSATION.
I STILL FEEL SOME HESITANCY AND WHEN IT COMES TO JUST REMOVING THE PILOT ALL TOGETHER BEFORE WE HAVE THE GRANT FUNDING SECURED OR CERTAINTY OF OUR CAPACITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ELEVATED LANES.
I DO APPRECIATE THE SHIFT IN LANGUAGE TO TRANSITIONING VERSUS REPLACING.
I THINK THAT IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT TELLS US THAT WE'RE ON A PATH NOT AT AN END POINT.
MY CONCERN IS WANTING TO ENSURE THAT WE CARRY THROUGH THAT TRANSITION TO THOSE ELEVATED LANES RATHER THAN RISKING TRANSITIONING AWAY FROM THE PILOT AND NOT BEING ABLE TO FULFILL THAT ASPECT.
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I THINK TWO QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD BRING IS IF WE'RE REMOVING THE PILOT FOR THE INTERIM, IF THERE IS CAPACITY TO CONSIDER ANYTHING THAT COULD IMPACT THE SAFETY OF THOSE LANES IN THE INTERIM.FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE TO INPUT SOME INFRASTRUCTURE OR A TEMPORARY MEASURE THAT WOULD SERVE AS A BUFFER AND PROTECTIVE ELEMENT VERSUS SIMPLY RELYING ON A PAINTED LINE OR IF WE WOULD LOOK AT POTENTIAL FOR REDUCE SPEEDS ALONG THE ROADWAY IN THE INTERIM UNTIL WE HAVE THE DETERMINATION OF THE CERTAINTY OF THE GRANT FUNDING, ANY MEASURE THAT PUTS ACTUAL PROTECTIVE ELEMENTS IN DURING THAT INTERIM PERIOD.
I AGREE AND I APPRECIATE THE ANSWERS THAT WERE GIVEN ON THE QUESTION OF THE IMPACTS AND WHAT WAS CAUSING SOME OF THOSE INCREASES IN INCIDENTS THAT WE WERE SEEING AND PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE IMPACT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES BEING ABLE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
WHAT ALL I REALLY WANT TO ENSURE THOUGH, IS THAT WE DO NOT OVERLOOK THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE MAY HAVE TO INPUT SOMETHING THAT CONTINUES THAT EVEN PERCEPTION OF SAFETY.
I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT IF THE BIKE RIDER FEELS SAFER THAN WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
BUT I WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE REALLY MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND CONTINUING THAT FOCUS AND THAT SHIFTED MINDSET TOWARDS BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY WITHOUT LOSING SIGHT OF THAT AS OUR GOALPOST.
IF WE ARE TRULY MOVING IN THE DIRECTION OF THE BIG SHIFT, THEN I JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WHATEVER DIRECTION WE GO IN TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE KEEPING THOSE THINGS IN MIND. THANK YOU.
>> WITH MY EARLIER COMMENTS, I DID NOT MEAN TO LEAVE ANY IMPRESSION THAT I'M AN AVID CYCLIST OR ONE THAT RIDES DURING BAD WEATHER.
THERE WAS PROBABLY A TIME WHERE I DID THAT AND I REALLY DON'T DO IT ANYMORE, I'M A FAIR WEATHER CYCLIST.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF MY PHILOSOPHIES AS A CYCLIST AND THINGS THAT I CONSIDER TO BE DANGEROUS AND NOTE THAT I DID NOT WANT TO LEAVE AN IMPRESSION THAT BARRIERED LANES DON'T AFFORD ANY PROTECTION I THINK THEY DO.
I'M NOT SURE WE GOT THIS ONE COMPLETELY RIGHT, BUT IT WAS A PILOT PROJECT.
BUT I WILL STATE AGAIN JUST TO EMPHASIZE IN THE AREA WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF SIDE TRAFFIC, TURNING TRAFFIC AND DRIVEWAYS.
I THINK THE FRAGMENTED NATURE OF THE BARRIERS THAT WE HAVE IS NOT SERVING ITS PURPOSE AS INTENDED, THAT'S MY FIRM BELIEF AND I WOULD AVOID THAT IF I'M RIDING ON STREETS LIKE THAT I'M NOT THINKING ABOUT GETTING SIDESWIPED BY SOMEBODY BEHIND ME, NOT AT ALL.
OR I'M THINKING THAT SOMEBODY TURNING LEFT HASTILY TO GET THROUGH TRAFFIC IS NOT LOOKING FOR A CYCLIST.
OR SOMEBODY BACKING OUT OF A DRIVEWAY IS NOT LOOKING FOR A CYCLIST, OR PERHAPS THERE'S A TRASH CAN, TWO DAYS A WEEK I SEE THOSE.
THOSE ARE THE OBSTRUCTIONS IN THE REAL RISKS I THINK THAT OCCUR.
THERE'S OF COURSE OTHER RISKS, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I, AS AN OCCASIONAL CYCLIST AND MOST AWARE OF.
IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SUGGEST WE TAKE EVERYTHING OUT AND VIEW THIS AS A FAILURE.
I STOPPED SHORT OF SAYING THAT I VIEWED IT AS A FAILURE BEFORE, I DON T THINK IT'S A SUCCESSFUL PILOT PROJECT.
IF COUNCIL IS INCLINED TO DO SOMETHING UNTIL WE HAVE THE RAISED BIKE LANE ARRANGEMENT THAT I THINK WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE EXTREMELY HAPPY WITH.
MY SUGGESTION IS WE MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO WHAT WE HAVE NOT TO INCUR MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT TO REMOVE PORTIONS OF THIS PIPE BIKE PILOT PROJECT THAT I DON T THINK ARE WORKING VERY WELL.
THERE MAY BE SEGMENTS THAT CAN BE LEFT INTACT THAT ARE DOING A BETTER JOB OF SERVING THEIR PURPOSE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.
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>> I'M GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TURN, PEOPLE ARE SMILING AT ME OUT THERE [LAUGHTER] AND PLEASE HEAR THIS IN THE SPIRIT THAT IT'S GIVEN SO WE'RE CAUGHT BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE.
WE ENCOURAGE TOURISTS TO COME HERE.
WE HAVE A WHOLE DIVISION THAT SAYS TOURISTS, TOURISTS, COME, COME.
MOST OF THOSE TOURISTS ARE COMING FROM LARGER COMMUNITIES AND THEIR BIKE CULTURE IS NOT THE SAME AS OUR BIKE CULTURE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE OUGHT TO BE THINKING ABOUT IS HOW DO WE WORK WITH HOTELS AND OTHER MOTELS OR WHOEVER TO GET PEOPLE ON SHUTTLES BECAUSE IF WE CAN GET MORE PEOPLE OFF OF OUR STREETS AND THOSE OF US WHO LIVE HERE, WE HAVE TO DRIVE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
WELL I DO BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO RIDE BUTLER SO LET'S NOT EVEN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OR MILTON OR ANY OF THOSE OTHER PLACES.
BUT WHY DON'T WE TRY TO WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE TO GET THEM OFF OF OUR STREETS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
THEY'RE GETTING LOST, THEY'RE TRYING TO DO GMAP OR WHATEVER TO GET WHEREVER IT IS THAT THEY WANT TO GO AND SO THAT MAY BE CAUSING US SOME PROBLEMS NOW THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY AND FIGURE THIS PROBLEM OUT, SO DON'T HEAR THAT.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I'M TRYING TO GET US TO THINK ABOUT THINGS WITH A TWO-PRONGED APPROACH.
THE IDEA IS TO GET MORE CARS OFF THE STREETS SO THAT OUR CYCLISTS AND OUR PEDESTRIANS CAN MAYBE BE A LITTLE BIT SAFER, ESPECIALLY FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING AND DO NOT KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE OUR CITY.
JUST THINK ABOUT THAT, MAYBE A BIKING GROUP, OR MAYBE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUP, MAYBE BIKING PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE MORE WEIGHT THAN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE SOME NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU ALL CAN REACH OUT TO TO HELP YOU WITH THIS CAMPAIGN.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO IS TO CONSIDER AND SOMEBODY JUST SAID IT ABOUT WHAT PARTS OF THE BIKING WITH THE CONES ARE WORKING GOOD, BETTER, AND WHICH ONES MAYBE WE'RE HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY BECAUSE WHEN I RIDE UP AND DOWN BUTLER, I DO SEE THERE ARE MISSING PIECES AND SO MAYBE WE TAKE THOSE OUT AND WE LEAVE THE ONES THAT ARE UP.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS, BUT I'M ALSO NOT IN FAVOR OF TAKING EVERYTHING OUT AND LEAVING NOTHING WE CAN TRY AND FIGURE THIS OUT.
BUT I THINK THE OTHER ALSO WORKING WITH TRYING TO GET CARS OFF THE STREET, ESPECIALLY OUR TOURISTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMERTIME, WOULD AT LEAST HELP US TO FEEL THAT WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION OR NOT, BUT THAT'S MY LITTLE $0.02 AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.
>> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
I THINK THAT'S SOME GOOD IDEAS.
I WANT TO GO THROUGH MY EXPERIENCE A LITTLE BIT.
I STARTED OUT THIS CONVERSATION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND I HAD GOTTEN AN ELECTRIC BIKE AND AT FIRST I LIKED THE THE PILOT PROJECT AND I WAS WRITING IN IN IT AND I HAVE TRANSITIONED INTO A ROAD BIKE.
I'M TRAINING FOR SOMETHING RIGHT NOW AND I RIDE IT QUITE OFTEN AND I FIND MYSELF NOT WANTING TO RIDE IN THE BIKE LANES BECAUSE OF ALL THE CENTERS AND BECAUSE OF THE DEBRIS AND THE TRASH CANS.
NOW, I TAKE MY BIKE AND I ACTUALLY GO OUT TO LIKE MARY BECAUSE THERE'S LESS DEBRIS, LESS CINDERS.
I FEEL BETTER AND THERE'S NO BARRIER FOR ME TO BE IN BUT YET I STILL FEEL A LOT SAFER OUT THERE.
TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, I WAS ON BUTLER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND I SAW AN OLDER WOMAN PULL OUT OF A DRIVEWAY AND SHE HIT ONE OF THE CEMENT BARRIERS WITH THE CANDLESTICK AND I WATCHED IT WITH MY OWN EYES AND I SAW IT HAPPEN.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF FLAWS IN THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
I'M ON BEAVER QUITE A BIT, AND I SEE THAT IT'S NOT REALLY WORKING THERE EITHER.
HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT US TO GO BACKWARDS.
I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF BIKES AND PEDS SAFETY, AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS.
I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET A GRANT AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE FIND OUT IF WE GET THAT GRANT, WE SHOULD HAVE A VERY BIG DISCUSSION.
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WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO.IF WE DON'T GET IT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS TO MAKE FOR OUR BIKE AND PED SAFETY.
I DO AGREE WITH CITY MANAGER THAT MAYBE MAKING SOME MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE FIND OUT ABOUT THE GRANT WOULD MAKE SOME SENSE AND MAYBE NOT INCURRING ANY MORE COST AT THIS POINT, BUT MAKING THE MODIFICATIONS, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND KEEPING THINGS GOING.
BUT I JUST DON'T SEE THE CLEAR FUTURE FOR THIS, BUT I DO BELIEVE IN BIKE AND PED AND I'M JUST GIVING YOU MY EXPERIENCE WITH IT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.
I TOO DON'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS.
I THINK THE PROBLEM AREA IS IN FRONT OF SAWMILL.
IT'S VERY CONFUSING TO TURN IN, OUT TO GET IN AND OUT.
I THINK THAT THE ACCIDENT REPORTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES THAT JUST PEOPLE DON'T NAVIGATE WHETHER THERE ARE TOURIST OR I STILL HAVE ISSUES DECIDING ON WHERE I'M TURNING IN.
I DID NOTICE ON THE 17 WITH ALL THE POTHOLES THAT ON A TEMPORARY FIX THEY HAVE REDUCED SPEED LIMITS, [LAUGHTER] SO YOU DON'T BLOW OUT YOUR TIRE AND HAVE A BIG RACK.
MAYBE SOME SOLUTION IS TAKING OUT THOSE SECTIONS THAT ARE JUST TOO PROBLEMATIC BETWEEN PEDESTRIANS, BIKES, AND VEHICLES AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT HAVING LITTLE FLASHING LIGHTS TO REDUCE SPEED DURING THAT TIME TO SLOW THINGS DOWN BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM, ALTHOUGH BUTLER IS A MAIN ARTERY AND SO A PERMANENT SLOW DOWN I DON'T THINK IS THE ANSWER BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT.
IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT, I THINK WE DO NEED TO MAKE SOME VERY HARD CHOICES ON WHERE WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY.
WE JUST SIGNED A CONTRACT FOR SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS ON SOMETHING VERY DESIRABLE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY, BUT I WOULD PUT PED AND BIKE SAFETY OVER THAT.
I THINK THAT FIRST WE NEED TO DO CITY MANAGEMENT WELL, FIRST, IF WE HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE OVER, THEN SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOALS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT MOVE THE NEEDLE.
I THINK WHEN THAT DECISION COMES IN, THAT'S A REALLY HARD CONVERSATION THAT I WILL WANT TO MAKE BECAUSE I LOOK AT UNFUNDED PROJECTS AND I LOOK AT ISSUES LIKE THIS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IS COSTING US $100,000, OR $50,000, OR ONE MILLION DOLLARS, AND WE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE AND THEN WE SIGN A $4 MILLION CONTRACT FOR SOMETHING THAT WASN'T AS CRITICAL AS I REALIZED THAT IT'S CRITICAL BUT NOT LIKE THIS.
I THINK THERE'S SOME COMPROMISE HERE.
CLEARLY, WE HAVE AN IMPROVED SAFETY ON THE BIKE AND PED SITUATION WITH THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
BUT I THINK THAT IT'S STILL VALUABLE IN SOME AREAS LIKE CITY MANAGER SUGGESTED.
SAWMILL IS A NIGHTMARE AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT.
BUT MAYBE JUST ON THAT ONE SECTION, HAVING SOME BLINKING LIGHTS AND SLOWING TRAFFIC DOWN IN THE INTERIM UNTIL WE GET THE RAISED BIKE PATH MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT'S PALPABLE AND SOMETHING WE CAN GET AROUND.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS.
I WOULD LIKE US AND COUNCIL HAS ASKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY, IS REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT ON BUTLER PERMANENTLY.
IT GOES FROM, WHAT IS IT, 35-40 AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER AREA OF TOWN WHERE THE SPEED LIMIT IS 40.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANY RIGHT NOW.
BUT LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT ISN'T GOING TO NECESSARILY BACKUP TRAFFIC AND IT MAKES PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS AND MOTORISTS SAFER.
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KEEP THE BARRIERS FOR A YEAR AND REASSESS OR KEEP THEM.I THINK I'M HEARING DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THIS WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION OF THIS ABOUT WHETHER WE REEVALUATE IN A YEAR OR KEEP IT UNTIL WE HEAR ABOUT THE GRANT.
ONE OTHER THING IS I'M WONDERING IF AS A COMPROMISE, WE COULD AGREE THAT SNOW REMOVAL IN THESE LANES IS GOING TO BE DELAYED.
RATHER THAN DELAYING SNOW REMOVAL ELSEWHERE, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE IT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM, IF WE COULD AGREE THAT DELAYING SNOW REMOVAL FOR A DAY OR TWO IN THESE LANES WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK FOR ALL.
I'M WONDERING IN TERMS OF WHETHER WE PULL OUT SOME OF THE BARRIERS IN CERTAIN AREAS.
MAYBE THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT STAFF HAS WITH THE BAC AND THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION TO COME TO SOME COMPROMISE OVER WHERE THEY COULD BE TAKEN OUT OR WHERE THEY NEED TO STAY.
THE SAME GOES FOR DELAYING SNOW REMOVAL.
I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM A BROADER PORTION.
I DON'T WANT IT TO JUST COME FROM ME.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT WHETHER THEY THINK THAT THAT IS A VIABLE OPTION. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I BELIEVE I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU ON MOST OF THAT.
I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH TAKING THIS BACK TO THE BAC AND TRANSPORTATION AND SEEING WHERE IT'S VIABLE TO REMOVE AREAS, IF NOT REMOVING THE FULL THING.
I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT CONCEPT AND I THANK AGAIN, THE CITY MANAGER FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD AS A SUGGESTION.
COULD YOU REITERATE THE POINT ON THE SNOW REMOVAL?
>> AS I UNDERSTAND IT, STAFF SAID THAT REMOVING SNOW IN THE PROTECTED BIKE LANES DELAYED SNOW REMOVAL ELSEWHERE.
I'M WONDERING IF A COMPROMISE COULD BE THAT SNOW REMOVAL IN THOSE LANES, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH SNOW WE GET, WE EXPECT IT TO BE DELAYED BY, I DON'T KNOW, A DAY OR TWO SO THAT WE DON'T SEE THOSE SLOWDOWNS ELSEWHERE IN TOWN.
I SAY THAT AS A COMPROMISE IN ORDER TO KEEP THE BARRIERS UP UNTIL WE'RE DOING SOMETHING ELSE.
>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
I DO BELIEVE I AGREE WITH THAT.
I WOULD ALSO JUST NOTE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS A POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVE IF THE GRANT DID NOT GO THROUGH AND WE WEREN'T MOVING BY WINTER TOWARD THE ELEVATED BIKE LANE.
BECAUSE IF THAT WAS THE CASE AND THAT WAS HAPPENING, THEN THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY THE SNOW REMOVAL CHALLENGE.
BUT I AGREE WITH THAT AS A POTENTIAL COMPROMISE.
IF THE PILOT REMAINS IN PLACE WITH A MODIFIED LOOK, TALKING ABOUT WHAT THAT COMPROMISE MIGHT LOOK LIKE, AND IF THE BIKING COMMUNITY AND OVERALL TRANSIT COMMUNITY IS ALIGNED WITH THAT AS A PROPOSAL FOR REACHING THAT COMPROMISE. GOOD.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET, AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.
I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF GOING BACK TO THE BAC IN THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND SEEING WHAT SOLUTIONS WE CAN FIND THERE AND SOME COMPROMISE.
I DO LIKE LOOKING AT THE SPEED LIMIT.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, MAKING THE MODIFICATIONS.
FOR ME I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THIS WHEN WE FIND OUT ABOUT THE GRANT, WHETHER WE GET IT OR NOT AND BEFORE WINTER BECAUSE I FEEL AS IF THE WINTER IS WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES AND I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN DO PRIOR TO THAT NEXT SEASON.
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>> I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE OTHER THREE.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE.
I'M JUST GOING TO BE POSITIVE.
WHEN WE GET THIS GRANT, IT WON'T BE HERE IN TIME FOR US TO DO ANY WORK BEFORE WINTER, CORRECT? WHEN WE GET THE GRANT, IT'S GOING TO BE FOR NEXT YEAR.
WORK WILL START THE NEXT YEAR.
>> I'M WITH YOU. WE'RE GOING TO GET THE GRANT AND WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT THIS FALL.
DEFINITELY NO CONSTRUCTION THIS SEASON, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT EVEN HAPPEN NEXT SEASON.
THESE THINGS DO TAKE TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT PROGRESSED FAR WITH DESIGN.
WE'LL HAVE JUST GOTTEN LIKE A FIVE OR 15% DESIGN ON THESE SEPARATED BIKE LANES.
I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE VERY OPTIMISTIC TO THINK WE HAD A SOLUTION IN PLACE FOR A WINTER FROM NOW.
>> OKAY. NOTHING WILL BE DONE BETWEEN NOW AND SAY WINTER OF '24?
>> THIS JUST GOOD TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT.
BECAUSE IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING IN TERMS OF JUST A TAKE SOME OF THE BIKE THINGS OUT, LEAVE SOME IN CERTAIN PLACES, THEN WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE FOR A YEAR-AND-A-HALF OR TWO.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST FOR SIX MONTHS.
IT'S GOING TO BE A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
THEN WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS THAT GOING TO COST US OVER THAT LONGER PERIOD OF TIME? THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST US? WHERE CAN WE GET THAT MONEY FROM? IS IT ALREADY IN OUR BUDGET? BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
BUT I'M STILL THINKING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.
SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD.
ALL OF US ARE GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT BIKING COMMUNITY, CITY TRAFFIC, WHOEVER ELSE, BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE IT ALL.
WE GOT TO FIGURE THIS OUT TO KEEP PEOPLE AS SAFE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, WHATEVER.
I MIGHT'VE JUST WENT TOO FAR THERE, BUT [LAUGHTER] I'LL STOP THERE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M NOT SURE.
WE'RE ALWAYS JUST GOING, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I DO SUPPORT RACE BIKE LANES.
THEN I THINK WE NEED TO EXPEDITE THE DESIGN AND EXPEDITE THE FUNDING.
BEYOND THAT, I WILL GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT MAINTAIN THE EXISTING SEPARATED BIKE LANES UNTIL THIS FALL.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO START BY EXPRESSING A LITTLE BIT OF FRUSTRATION, NOT WITH ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR, BUT WITH THE INTERNET GODS.
IT SEEMS THAT THE FEED CUT OUT RIGHT AS THIS CONVERSATION WAS GOING.
I WAS NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE STAFF PRESENTATION OR THE Q&A THAT FOLLOWED.
I THINK I DID HEAR MOST OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I HAVE WAITED TO SPEAK JUST TO PLAY CATCH UP A LITTLE BIT TO SEE IF I COULD FIGURE OUT WHERE THINGS ARE AT AND I THINK I HAVE A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AND HOW FOLKS ARE FEELING ABOUT IT.
ALTHOUGH THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION THERE FOR ME AS WELL.
I DON'T FEEL THAT I'M REALLY QUALIFIED TO WEIGH IN HERE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A MAJORITY DEVELOPING FOR SOMETHING.
THERE WAS A STATEMENT SAID THAT I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE OTHER THREE.
FOR ME, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ANYBODY HAS SAID ANYTHING CONCRETE.
THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS WITH WIDE MARGINS BEING BANDIED ABOUT AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE INTERSECTIONS ARE THERE.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN I GO INTO A DELIBERATION ON COUNCIL, I DO HAVE MY OWN IDEAS AND WHERE MY VALUES ARE AND WHERE MY COMPASS BEARING IS POINTING.
THEN I LISTEN AND ASK QUESTIONS AND I ALLOW MYSELF TO BE PERSUADED AND
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MOVED BY THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND THE PRESENTATIONS AND THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.I'VE BEEN ROBBED OF THAT THIS EVENING.
I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE TO LAND ON THIS.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT COMING INTO THE MEETING, MY HEART WAS WITH KEEPING THE BIKE LANES IN PLACE.
I REALIZED THAT JUST BY THE ORDER THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS IN LAST TIME, I TURNED OUT TO BE THE TIE-BREAKING VOTE TO KEEP THE BIKE LANES FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THE PROBLEMS WE LIFTED UP OVER THE WINTER ARE GOING TO BE THE SAME LEVEL OF PROBLEM FOR US FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
I WOULD THINK THAT WE COULD KEEP THIS GOING.
ONE OF MY BIGGEST QUESTIONS IS WHEN ARE WE GOING TO KNOW ABOUT THE GRANT? WHAT I JUST GATHERED THROUGH MY DETECTIVE WORK IS THAT WE'LL KNOW BY THE FALL.
BUT IT STILL COULD BE ANOTHER YEAR AFTER THAT TO GET GOING ON THE RACE BIKE LANES SWITCH.
FOR ME, JUST FOR THE RECORD, IT'S VERY MUCH PRIORITY AS WELL.
EXCUSE ME. I THINK THAT'S WHERE THIS IS HEADED.
I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY HOPEFUL ABOUT THE TRANSITION.
THE END GAME HERE, AND THE QUESTION, THE CONFUSION LIES AROUND WHAT DO WE DO MEANWHILE? FOR THE RECORD, I SUPPOSE I'LL STATE AGAIN WITHOUT HAVING THE PRIVILEGE OF THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU GUYS ALL WENT THROUGH, THAT I WOULD KEEP THE BIKE LANES IN PLACE FOR NOW.
BUT I THINK THERE'S DIRECTION HEADING DOWN ANOTHER PATH.
I WILL YIELD BACK MY TIME AND LISTEN FURTHER TO CLARIFICATIONS FOR WHAT THAT MEANS EXACTLY.
ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY THAT ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS SHOULD DEFINITELY BE TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT OR WHATEVER ELSE WOULD DO.
I DO FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOME CONSENSUS FORMING AROUND THAT SPECIFICALLY. THANK YOU ALL.
>> STAFF, WHAT IF WE HAVE AN UPDATE AFTER WE FIND OUT ABOUT THE GRANT AND THAT UPDATE INCLUDES ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FROM THE BAC AND THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION? SAY THAT COMES IN THE FALL.
THEN WE DECIDE BECAUSE IT'S, COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET WANTS TO, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, REMOVE THEM BEFORE THE WINTER. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I AT LEAST WANT IT TO COME BACK TO US BEFORE THE WINTER AND HAVE A DISCUSSION.
BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS, BUT AT LEAST HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WINTER.
>> HOW DOES THAT SOUND, STAFF?
>> OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO YIELD TO WHATEVER DECISION YOU MAKE HERE.
IT'S JUST MAKING SURE WE CAN WORK THIS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
IF WE DO MAKE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, LIKE I SAID, BASED ON TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION, WE WILL GO OUT AND MAKE THAT INVESTMENT OF RE-STRIPING THAT ROAD.
IF WE TRANSITION, WE JUST NEED ENOUGH TIME TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT TO THE OBLITERATION, WHICH IS FAIRLY EXPENSIVE, AND THEN REALIGN IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOOD TO GO BEFORE WINTER.
THAT WILL TAKE US WITH CONTRACTORS HONESTLY, SEVERAL WEEKS.
JUST ENSURING THAT WE MEET THAT.
MANY CONTRACTORS WON'T SUPPORT THAT DURING OUR WINTER TIME, SO WE MAY GET STUCK AS LONG AS WE GET AHEAD OF IT.
REALISTICALLY, TIMEFRAME, WE'D ALMOST NEED TO MEET IN AUGUST TO STAY AHEAD OF IT.
THAT'D BE MY ONLY COMMENT TO THAT.
>> WE WON'T KNOW ABOUT THE GRANT BY THEN, BUT WE WOULD POSSIBLY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION WITH THE BAC AND THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AT LEAST WHAT I'M HEARING AND HOW I FEEL PERSONALLY, THE RACE SIDEWALK IS THE DEFINITE FUTURE THAT WE WANT TO GO ON.
ALSO IN MY SHORT TIME HERE, AND EVEN BEFORE THAT, EVERYTHING TAKES A WHOLE QUITE A LONG TIME, LIKE DECADES [LAUGHTER] TO GET STUFF DONE.
JUST GOING BACK TO WHAT I SAID ABOUT TAKING CARE OF THE NEEDS OF FLAGSTAFF FIRST,
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WOULD IT BE TOO IMPOSSIBLE JUST TO SAY, LET'S MOVE FORWARD ON THE DESIGN ASPECT OF THE RACE GRANT BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF THAT GRANT, WE WANT TO HAVE THIS DONE SOONER THAN LATER?>> MAY I RESPOND? [NOISE] I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD BE TOO OUT OF LINE TO DO THAT.
ACTUALLY, I THINK MANY OF US WOULD AGREE THAT IT'S A PRIORITY AND WE SHOULD PURSUE IT.
WE SHOULD BE PURSUING THE DESIGN AND I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY WRESTLE WITH THAT AND MAKE THAT OUR PRIORITY AS WELL.
>> MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE INSTRUCT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN ON THE RACE SIDEWALK AND WE CONSULT THE OTHER TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEES JUST TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT GIVE OUR STAFF ENOUGH TIME TO REMOVE WHAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED OR RESTRIPED IN A TIMELY MANNER, KNOWING THAT WE'RE ALREADY DESIGNING THE RAISED SIDEWALK.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A FAILURE IN THE WINTERTIME FOR SURE.
IF WE HAD 20 MORE STAFF MEMBERS AND A WHOLE BUNCH MORE EQUIPMENT, WE COULD PROBABLY HANDLE IT, BUT WE DON'T.
BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM TRANSPORTATION AND THE OTHER AGENCY JUST TO SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE, MAYBE OTHER OPTIONS.
BUT DEFINITELY MY STRONG VOTE IS TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE DESIGN ASPECT AND THEN GIVE US A FEW MONTHS TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
>> THANK YOU. STAFF, AM I CORRECT THAT IF WE HAVE A DESIGN AND WE GOT THE GRANT, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION IN 2024?
>> AS TREVOR MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE EVENING, WE HAVE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO AN ENGINEERING COMPANY TO START THE DESIGN, BUT OUR INITIAL PLAN WAS WILLING TO GO TO 15 PERCENT TO GET COST FINALIZED.
AS YOU'VE HEARD, WE CAN CHANGE THAT APPROACH TO JUST KEEP GOING.
THAT'S EASY. LET'S THINK THROUGH THIS ON THE FLY.
IF WE WERE ABLE TO FINISH DESIGN AND EVERYTHING DOES TAKE LONGER THAN YOU HOPE IT'S GOING TO TAKE, I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE WE'D BE DONE WITH DESIGN BY THE FIRST SECOND MONTH OF NEXT YEAR.
IF WE ACTUALLY HAD THE GRANT SECURED IN THE FALL, IT SEEMS OPTIMISTIC TO ME STANDING HERE TODAY, BUT YES, I THINK I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION LATE CALENDAR YEAR 24.
BUT EVERYTHING HAS TO LINE UP AND DON'T HOLD ME TO IT.
THAT'S EVERYTHING WORKING PERFECTLY.
>> THERE'S SO MANY STEPS BETWEEN [OVERLAPPING]
>> NOW AND THEN, BUT I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE STANDING HERE TODAY IN MAY.
>> I FULLY SUPPORT GOING AHEAD WITH THE DESIGN AS WELL.
I JUST WANTED TO, I GUESS, TEMPER EXPECTATIONS THAT IT'S NOT GUARANTEED THAT IF WE HAVE A DESIGN AND WE HAVE THE GRANT, THAT WE WILL BE IN CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT WE WILL.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH MOVING AHEAD WITH DESIGN? YOU GOT THAT.
I DON'T HEAR ANY DISAGREEMENT WITH GOING BACK TO TRANSPORTATION AND THE BAC TO TALK ABOUT SOME DETAILS AND MAYBE SOME COMPROMISES AND THEN COME BACK TO US WITH ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR THE WINTER, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED YET.
NOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE COUNCIL MEETINGS IN AUGUST.
>> I'LL BE MORE RESPECTFUL. I APOLOGIZE SPEAKING FROM MY SEAT.
TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO TRANSITION WHATEVER THE INFRASTRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE TO SOMETHING THAT WILL BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND SAFE FOR THE WINTER, WILL NEED SOME TIME TO ALIGN THOSE PIECES.
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>> WILL COMMISSIONS MEET IN JULY AND AUGUST?
>> MEREDITH'S COMMISSION DEPENDENT.
SOME QUESTIONS TAKE A BREAK DURING THE SUMMER, BUT A NUMBER OF THEM DO NOT.
JEFF, DO YOU KNOW IF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION OR BAC WILL BE AS PLANNING ON BREAK?
>> THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION WILL MEET THE FIRST WEEK OF JUNE AND THE FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST.
WE WILL HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES.
JUNE'S A LITTLE QUICK, BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN AUGUST AND THAT'LL LET US GO AFTER THE BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE A JULY MEETING AND THE JUNE MEETING AS WELL.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OPPORTUNITIES.
>> GREAT. DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION FROM US? CITY MANAGER?
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK THERE'S CONSENSUS HERE, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO VALIDATE THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT ON BUTLER.
I GATHERED FROM YOUR COMMENTS BEFORE, IT SHOULD BE FROM 40-35.
I KNOW JEFF WOULD TELL YOU THERE'S ALWAYS A VERY DETAILED METHODOLOGY THAT GOES INTO SPEED LIMIT CALCULATION, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET A LITTLE MORE CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL AS TO WHERE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE US GO WITH THAT [LAUGHTER]
>> I THINK THAT THE ENTIRE WAY OF BUTLER SHOULD BE THE SAME SPEED LIMIT, BUT I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE BELOW 40.
AS TO WHAT IT ENDS UP BEING, I THINK THAT ROAD DESIGN AND STAFF CAN DETERMINE WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
BUT I'LL ASK, IS THERE ANYONE WHO DOES NOT SUPPORT THE IDEA OF A LOWERED SPEED LIMIT? COUNCIL MEMBER?
>> I JUST COME IN MORE DETAIL.
I THINK 40 IS TOO FAST FOR THAT STREET.
IT'S FAIRLY NARROW, IT'S WINDY.
I'D BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT JEFF AND HIS TEAM SAY.
BUT MY GUT FEEL IS SOMETHING LIKE 35 IS PLENTY FAST.
>> I SIT AND WATCH PEOPLE GO UP AND DOWN BUTLER AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING 40, THEY'RE GOING 45 AND 50 BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE BLOCKS BETWEEN LIGHTS.
I SIT IN THE MURDOCH CENTRE AND I WATCHED THEM GO UP AND DOWN THAT STREET.
TRUST ME, SO I THINK 35 IS MORE THAN ENOUGH.
>> I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT AS WELL.
I THINK MY ONLY THOUGHT IS THAT IT'S A STRANGE SPEED AREA WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TRANSITION BETWEEN BUTLER AND CLAY AND INDUSTRIAL, I THINK.
WHERE IT GOES FROM 40-35 BACK TO 40 THEN 35-25 WHEN YOU SWITCH ACROSS MILTON AT THAT AREA.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE PRUDENT OR POSSIBLE TO BASICALLY KEEP IT 35 DOWN THAT ROAD.
THEN AT THE POINT WHEN IT CHANGES OR TRANSITIONS TO 35 DROPPED THAT TO 30, SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE THEN CROSSING THAT INTERSECTION BETWEEN BUTLER AND MILTON.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE CROSSING THAT INTERSECTION TO GO INTO LA PLAZA VIEJA BASICALLY WHERE IT DROPS TO 25.
IT'S LESS OF A BIG TRANSITION.
I CAN TELL YOU, I DERIVE IT EVERY DAY AND IT'S A WEIRD TRANSITION WHERE YOU HAVE FOLKS ALWAYS APPEARING TO SPEED BECAUSE IT DROPS 10 MINUTES OR 10 MILES PER HOUR CROSSING A STREET.
I WOULD JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.
>> STAFF, YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED FROM US?
>> VICE MAYOR HAS [OVERLAPPING]
>> OH SORRY, I WAS LOOKING IN THE CHAT. VICE MAYOR.
>> YEAH, HAD MY HAND UP FOR A LITTLE WHILE TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO ORGANIZE MY THOUGHTS.
LISTEN, I THINK IT'S GREAT BEFORE GOING TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT THERE.
PLEASE BELIEVE ME, I DON'T WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT AT ALL, BUT IT DOES LEAVE ME WITH SOME QUESTIONS.
I SEEM TO REMEMBER TRYING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT REDUCING SPEED LIMITS ON STREETS AROUND TOWN BEFORE AND BEING TOLD THAT WE
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CAN'T DO THAT AND THAT THERE ARE FORMULAS FOR THIS.IF WE CAN DO THAT, LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I'VE GOT A LOT OF STREETS THAT I'D LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT THEIR SPEECH SHOULD BE.
THE OTHER COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE IS, I'M JUST NOT VERY CLEAR WHAT WE'RE ASKING TRANSPORTATION AND BAC TO DO FOR US.
MAYBE I MISSED THAT, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY CLARITY WHATSOEVER EVEN WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO BOUNCE OFF OF THAT AND WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BOUNCE OFF OF THAT WIDTH.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS AND WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO.
>> I AGREE WITH MR. ASLAN THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT THOSE COMMITTEES KNOW WHAT WE WOULD BE ASKING THEM TO DO.
I DO KNOW THAT THE CHAIR OF THE BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS SITTING HERE.
I WONDER IF SHE WOULD HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT, DO YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS QUESTION?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, IF I COULD JUMP IN HERE.
>> A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ASKED FOR WERE, WHAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD THINK ABOUT A DELAY IN SNOW REMOVAL IN THOSE BIKE LANES.
THAT IS A COMPROMISE IN ORDER TO KEEP SNOW REMOVAL IN THE OTHER AREAS NOT DELAYED.
ALSO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT TAKING OUT THE BARRIERS ALONG SOME AREAS OF BUTLER.
IF THERE COULD BE SOME CONSENSUS ON WHETHER THERE ARE AREAS OF THE STREET THAT THE BARRIERS COULD BE REMOVED OR WHETHER THE BAC IS GOING TO SAY, DON'T TAKE ANY OUT.
TRANSPORTATION IS GOING TO SAY YOU CAN TAKE SOME OUT AND THEN WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT AND DECIDE BETWEEN THOSE.
THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.
>> I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT BEAVER STREET AS WELL, NOT JUST BUTLER FOR TAKING BARRIERS OUT.
>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT RIGHT NOW, THE AREA BETWEEN MILTON AND LONE TREE, IS IT 35 MILES AN HOUR CURRENTLY AND EVERYBODY ON THE BAC WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT GO TO $0.25.
IT'S BASICALLY A MASSIVE SCHOOL ZONE.
JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, I KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHER SPEED LIMITS FARTHER DOWN, BUT IT'S 35 AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AT 25.
>> THANK YOU. STAFF YOU HAVE YES.
>> OR ARE WE ASKING STAFF TO WEIGH IN ON CHANGING SPEED LIMITS IN GENERAL, ON BUTLER IN PARTICULAR.
>> YES. WE'RE SAYING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BELOW 40.
>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I KNOW JEFF IS GOING TO STAND TO SPEAK, BUT I ALSO KNOW HE HAS TO RUN IT THROUGH A CERTAIN AND MAYBE HE CAN EXPLAIN THIS BETTER THAN I CAN.
BUT ESSENTIALLY A STUDY TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN'T JUST SIMPLY LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT.
WE CAN GO UP INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IF NECESSARY, BUT THERE ARE STEPS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN IN ORDER TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT.
I KNOW THAT YOUR DIRECTION WAS FOR HIM TO COME BACK TO YOU THAT'S WHY I HADN'T SAID ANYTHING UP UNTIL NOW.
>> I REMEMBER HAVING THAT EXPLAINED TO US LAST TIME WE ASKED FOR IT TO BE LOWERED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. CHIEF, PUT YOUR FINGERS IN YOUR EARS.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT [LAUGHTER] WAS ALREADY 35. SHE THOUGHT IT WAS 40.
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MAYBE SOME FLASHING YELLOW LIGHTS TO TELL SOME OF US WHO DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO SPEED SIGNS TO NOW GO THE SPEED LIMIT IF NO ONE'S YIELDING TO THOSE SIGNS ALREADY BECAUSE WE ALL AGREED TO 35 BUT I JUST HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME, IT IS ALREADY 35.>> I BELIEVE THERE'S TWO SPEEDS ON THIS SECTION OF BUTLER TODAY AND YOU WERE ALLUDING TO THAT SO I THINK IT'S 30 FROM MILTON TO LONE TREE.
I'M SORRY, 35 FROM MILTON TO LONE TREE.
I BELIEVE LONE TREE TO ROUGHLY PONDEROUS PARKWAY IS 40 SO THAT MAYBE SOME OF THE CONFUSION AND YOU CAN TELL WHY THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SPEED LIMITS OF THE DIFFERENT CHARACTER ROAD, THE DOWNTOWN AREAS, A LITTLE MORE CONGESTED, 35 AND WE MEASURE THE SPEEDS MULTIPLE TIMES BECAUSE WE THOUGHT ADDING CURBS, NARROWING THE ROAD WAS GOING TO CHANGE THE OPERATING SPEEDS.
IT WAS WITHIN ONE MILE PER HOUR AND 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED, WHICH IS 85% OF PEOPLE ARE GOING SLOWER, 15% ARE GOING FASTER AS IT ROUGHLY WHERE WE SET THE SPEED LIMIT AND IT WAS, I THINK 34 IN THAT SECTION.
TYPICALLY, WE KNOW AND THIS IS ALL THE STUFF I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE, BUT TYPICALLY WE KNOW YOU CAN CHANGE THE NUMBERS ON THE SIGN AND YOU WON'T SEE A DIFFERENCE IN THE OPERATING SPEEDS CAN MAKE PEOPLE FEEL BETTER.
THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF SAFETY, BUT YOU'RE NOT LIKELY TO SEE ANY CHANGE OUT THERE.
ACTUALLY, I WOULD APPRECIATE SOME MORE DIRECTION ON IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO SPEND MORE TIME ON THIS TOPIC AND WE CAN DO SOME MEASUREMENTS IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND SEE IF THERE IS SOME DIFFERENTIAL ALONG THAT SECTION.
MAYBE IT IS OPERATING MORE LIKE 30 NEAR MILTON AND WE CAN CHANGE THE SPEED LIMIT FOR SOME LIMITATIONS ABOUT HOW OFTEN YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.
WE CAN SPEND QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON THIS IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE OR IF YOU HAVE SOME PRESCRIPTION WHICH I WAS HEARING BUT I'M NOT SURE IT WAS HEARING THE SAME THING FROM EVERYBODY, SO I WOULD APPRECIATE A LITTLE MORE DIRECTION ON THAT.
>> TAKING THE TIME TO DO A STUDY, ARE WE TALKING MONTHS? THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO ADDRESS THE SPEED LIMIT THAN TO UNDERTAKE THE STUDY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> THAT'S THE CORRECT WAY TO DO IT IN THAT FOLLOWS STATE LAW.
YES. AN ENGINEERING STUDY IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO SET THE SPEED LIMITS.
>> CITY MANAGER, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ASKING STAFF TO DO SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT AND PERHAPS THAT WASN'T IN THEIR CURRENT WORK PLAN.
DO YOU HAVE THOUGHTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH US ABOUT IT?
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, I HAVE HEARD ENOUGH DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC TO UNDERSCORE THE NEED TO SEE IT HAPPENED.
WE CAN HUDDLE INTERNALLY AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THE STUDY, HOW IT NEEDS TO BE CONDUCTED, AND WHAT IT'S COMPRISED OF.
BUT I THINK IT CLEARLY IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED SO FREQUENTLY IN THESE DISCUSSIONS.
THAT WAS REDUNDANT, BUT IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED MANY TIMES AT THE DAY IS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WITH THE BAC AS WELL.
WHAT I'M UNCLEAR OF IS, SO YOU DO A STUDY AND THIS STUDY ABSOLUTELY DETERMINATIVE OF THE OUTCOME OR DO YOU JUST NEED TO DO A STUDY? IF COUNCIL IS DESIROUS, HAVE SEEN A SPEED LIMIT GO FROM 40, 35, DOES THIS STUDY HAVE TO VALIDATE A 35 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT OR DOES THERE NEED TO BE A STUDY TO RE-DO THE SPEED LIMIT? I'M NOT SURE OF THE OUTCOME.
MAYBE JEFF CAN ENLIGHTEN US ON THAT BUT I THINK DOING THIS STUDY SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL IS VERY INTERESTED IN.
>> THANK YOU. YES SO THE STUDY WILL RECOMMEND A SPEED, AND IT'S NOT ONLY BASED ON THE 85TH PERCENTILE, WE CAN LOOK AT CRASH INFORMATION, ACTIVITY ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND DIFFERENT THINGS AND WEIGH A LITTLE BIT PULL THE NUMBER DOWN A LITTLE PROBLEM NUMBER UP A LITTLE FROM 85TH PERCENTILE.
WE CAN, I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO, IT'S NOT A HUGE EFFORT.
WE NEED TO SET OUR HOSES AT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PLACES AND COLLECT ALL THE DATA, LOOK AT CRASHES.
IT'S NOT A HUGE EFFORT. WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT.
I'M AN AGREEMENT WE'VE HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, SO LET US RUN THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS AND COME BACK TO YOU.
SOUNDS LIKE IN SEPTEMBER, WE CAN DO THAT.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
>> DID YOU JUST TELL US A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO THAT YOU CAN CHANGE THE SPEED BUT IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR.
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WAS THAT YOU THEY TOLD ME OR WAS THAT THE CHIEF THEY SAID THAT?>> WITHOUT HEAVY ENFORCEMENT, THAT IS TYPICALLY THE RESULT YOU'LL SEE.
>> WHAT ABOUT SOME ENFORCEMENT FOR A WHILE, THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR? I'M JUST MAKING A COMMENT.
IT CAN BE A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION.
>> WELL, OFF AND ON PERIODICALLY, THAT'S HOW YOU GET PEOPLE.
>> JEFF, I THINK ANOTHER CONSIDERATION IS WHAT THE PEDESTRIAN LOAD IS IN THE AREA.
IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IF IT'S LIKE A RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHICH THIS IS ACTUALLY, IT'S MIXED RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND IT HAS A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS I THINK YOU COULD JUSTIFY SOMETHING MAYBE FIVE MILES AN HOUR, SLOWER.
JUST FOR FUN, I'M GOING TO STATE THAT THE LEGAL SPEED LIMIT IS WHAT IS EVER REASONABLE AND PRUDENT.
WHAT'S POSTED ON THE SIGN HAS NO LEGAL BEARING ON THAT, EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF A SCHOOL ZONE OR RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS 25 BY STATUTE, BUT REASONABLE IMPRUDENT.
THAT'S THE ACTUAL SPEED LIMIT.
>> THANK YOU, OFFICER MCCARTHY.
>> I WENT THROUGH THAT THE HARD WAY A COUPLE OF TIMES.
>> ARE WE GOOD? STAFF KNOWS WHAT WE'D LIKE, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE,
[5. Informational Items To/From Mayor, Council, and City Manager; future agenda item requests]
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS TWO FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS.LET'S START WITH YOU VICE MAYOR.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I WILL PASS THIS EVENING.
>> THANK YOU. HOW ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE?
>> NOTHING FOR ME THIS EVENING. THANK YOU.
>> NOTHING TONIGHT. THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE RECEIVING THE $8.9 MILLION THAT WE WERE ASKING FOR TO HELP PAY FOR THE 180 CORRIDOR IN TERMS OF FLOOD MITIGATION.
SO EXCELLENT NEWS. THAT'S ALL.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL.
>> I DON'T SEE ANY PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SO WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.