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OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO GET STARTED.

[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this work session, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for legal advice and discussion with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]

TODAY IS TUESDAY, MAY 30TH, 2023.

THIS IS THE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.

I AM CALLING THIS TO ORDER.

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT AT THIS WORK SESSION THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR LEGAL ADVICE AND DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY'S ATTORNEYS ON ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA.

CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL.

MAYOR DAGGETT.

HERE. VICE MAYOR ASLAN.

PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

AQUI. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

HERE. VICE MAYOR, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? PLEASE STAND.

YES. THE MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY OUR LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THIS AREA'S INDIGENOUS NATIONS AND ORIGINAL STEWARDS.

THESE LANDS STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS BORDER MOUNTAINS SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.

WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.

WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE AS THEIR HOME.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

[4. Public Participation Public Participation enables the public to address the council about items that are not on the prepared agenda. Public Participation appears on the agenda twice, at the beginning and at the end of the work session. You may speak at one or the other, but not both. Anyone wishing to comment at the meeting is asked to fill out a speaker card and submit it to the recording clerk. When the item comes up on the agenda, your name will be called. You may address the Council up to three times throughout the meeting, including comments made during Public Participation. Please limit your remarks to three minutes per item to allow everyone to have an opportunity to speak. At the discretion of the Chair, ten or more persons present at the meeting and wishing to speak may appoint a representative who may have no more than fifteen minutes to speak.]

PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ENABLES THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ABOUT ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE PREPARED AGENDA.

COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS OR RESPOND TO SPEAKERS, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND THERE IS A CLOCK RIGHT DOWN HERE.

SO I'M GOING TO START WITH CONNIE FOLSOM.

WELL, THANK YOU. I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE NEW INFORMATION HAS COME TO LIGHT WITH REGARD TO THE ADVANTAGES AND VERY REAL POSSIBILITY OF BUILDING DEDICATED PICKLEBALL COURTS AT THE THORPE DOG PARK LOCATION RATHER THAN IN BUSHMASTER PARK.

IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL'S QUESTIONS ON MAY 16TH, MISS HAGIN STATED THAT THE THORPE LOCATION IS NOT SHOVEL READY.

IN OUR LATER DISCUSSIONS WITH HER, SHE TOLD US THAT THE REASON IT'S NOT SHOVEL READY IS BECAUSE THE DOG PARK WOULD NEED TO BE RELOCATED AND CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO FUNDS TO DO THAT.

SHE ALSO SAID, QUOTE, THE THORPE BARK PARK WAS BUILT BY VOLUNTEERS AND NOT SANCTIONED YEARS AGO.

SO IT IS BUILT IN A DRAINAGE DITCH.

THE BARK PARK HAS BEEN A HAZARD FOR MANY YEARS, ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTER MONTHS, UNQUOTE.

IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE EXISTING BARK PARK AT THORPE IS A HAZARD, SURELY THE CITY WOULD MAKE FIXING THAT A PRIORITY? THE FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR EIGHT NEW PICKLEBALL COURTS AND RESURFACING OF THE TENNIS AND BASKETBALL COURTS IN BUSHMASTER ARE ESTIMATES.

SURELY FUNDS COULD BE FOUND TO ERECT A CHAIN LINK FENCE IN A SUITABLE LOCATION FOR A DOG PARK? THIS WOULD NOT BE A COSTLY ITEM.

IN FACT, IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT SUFFICIENT FUNDS WOULD BE LEFT OVER FROM THE CURRENT ALLOCATION TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.

IN FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH MS. HAGIN, SHE AGREED THAT THE 500,000 IN BBB FUNDS CURRENTLY ALLOCATED FOR NEW COURTS IN BUSHMASTER WOULD BE ENTIRELY SUFFICIENT TO BUILD THOSE SAME COURTS AT THORPE INSTEAD.

THAT WOULD LEAVE THE REMAINING APPROPRIATED FUNDS TO RESURFACE AND RE STRIPE THE BASKETBALL AND TENNIS COURTS IN BUSHMASTER.

AND THE WONDERFUL THING IS MS. HAGIN TELLS US THERE IS ROOM AT THE THORPE LOCATION FOR AT LEAST 24 PICKLEBALL COURTS.

NOT THAT THEY WOULD ALL BE BUILT NOW, BUT THERE'S EXISTING ACREAGE AT THORPE TO EXPAND ALONG WITH THE NEEDS OF THE FLAGSTAFF PICKLEBALL ASSOCIATION. THEY WOULD HAVE A LARGE SINGLE LOCATION, A PICKLEBALL HUB.

ANOTHER ADVANTAGE TO BUILDING THE EIGHT COURTS AT THORPE RATHER THAN IN BUSHMASTER IS THAT THERE IS CONSIDERABLY MORE PARKING SPACE AT THORPE.

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THERE ARE RESTROOM FACILITIES ALREADY IN PLACE AND THE COURTS WOULD NOT BE NEAR RESIDENCES, SO NOISE POLLUTION WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.

REDIRECTING THE FUNDS FROM BUSHMASTER TO THORPE NOW WOULD SITUATE THE NEW COURTS IN THE CORRECT PLACE FOR FUTURE EXPANSION, AND THE UNDEVELOPED AREA IN BUSHMASTER PARK WOULD BE LEFT AS IS.

AND FINALLY, PLEASE NOTE THAT CONTRARY TO YOUR REQUEST ON MAY 16TH, THAT COURTS BE MOVED AS FAR NORTH AS POSSIBLE FROM HOMES ON THE SOUTH BORDER OF BUSHMASTER, IT SEEMS THAT THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

AND IN FACT, WITH THE NEW CONFIGURATION, THEY HAVE BEEN MOVED EVEN CLOSER TO SOME OF THOSE HOMES.

THANK YOU. AUDREY SMITH.

SHE HAS DECLINED HER COMMENT.

JILL STEVENSON.

SORRY. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I DO NOT WANT TO ANTAGONIZE YOU, BUT I FIND IT IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU COULD APPROVE THE NAH PROPOSAL.

IT NEEDS MUCH MORE EVALUATION, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF ALL THAT HAS COME TO LIGHT SINCE THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN MADE AWARE OF THE SITUATION. THIS PROJECT WILL COST FLAGSTAFF TAXPAYERS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

NAH DOES NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE FUNDS FOR EXTRA FIREFIGHTING AND POLICING NECESSITATED BY THIS RELOCATION.

MONEY FOR NECESSARY ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE IS TOTALLY INADEQUATE.

NAH'S PROPOSAL DOES NOT ADDRESS THE INCREASING NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE, WHICH WILL ONLY INCREASE WITH CLIMATE CAUSED WEATHER EXTREMES.

IT DOES NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE CHARGING STATIONS FOR EVS.

IT DOES NOT REALISTICALLY ADDRESS SAFETY FOR BICYCLE RIDERS AND PEDESTRIANS.

IT DOES NOT PROVIDE THE NECESSARY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FOR FLAGSTAFF AND RESERVATION PATIENTS WENDING THEIR WAY TO THIS FAR EDGE OF THE CITY.

NAH IS NOT EVALUATING AND INFORMING US OF THE EXPECTED CARBON FOOTPRINT OF CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION.

FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS PROPOSAL.

THIS BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT WILL MAKE AN IRREVERSIBLE CARBON NEGATIVE IMPACT ON ALL LIFE IN THIS AREA.

IT WILL COST TAXPAYERS UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNTS OF MONEY.

THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT FUNDS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THIS MEGA PROJECT.

HOW CAN THE COUNCIL EVEN BEGIN TO THINK THIS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT A DRASTIC INCREASE IN LOCAL TAXES? DO ANY OF US WANT THIS? NO. HOW CAN THE COUNCIL APPROVE A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL THAT DOES NOT REALISTICALLY AND DEFINITIVELY ADDRESS THE CITY'S REGIONAL PLAN FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030? THIS LACK OF ENFORCED CARBON EMISSION STANDARDS SETS NO CLIMATE REQUIREMENTS FOR EVERY OTHER FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, AS WELL AS NEGATING THE PROGRESS TOWARDS CARBON NEUTRALITY, FLAGSTAFF HAS MADE IN THE PAST.

THERE ARE TOO MANY NEBULOUS ASPECTS OF THIS PLAN AND TOO MANY UNWRITTEN MAYBES.

A FINAL DECISION SHOULD BE POSTPONED UNTIL IF AND WHEN THESE INADEQUACIES ARE MET.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

TOM PIERSON.

MAYOR DAGGETT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU CERTAIN SHORTCOMINGS I SEE IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

THE C.N.P. ONE OF THE PILLARS OF THE CNP PROPOSES REPLACING FLAGSTAFF CURRENT ENERGY DIVERSITY WITH ONLY TWO RENEWABLE POWER SOURCES SOLAR AND WIND.

A SECOND PILLAR OF THE CNP IS CREATING AN ALL ELECTRIC FLAGSTAFF THAT IS CONSTRUCTING OR CONVERTING BUILDINGS TO ELECTRICITY ALONE FOR HEATING AND APPLIANCES.

THIS DUAL TRACK OF RENEWABLE ONLY POWER SOURCES IN ALL ELECTRIC BUILDINGS IS A PATH OF SIGNIFICANT RISK.

WHY WILL THIS BE A VULNERABLE COURSE OF ACTION? LET'S REMEMBER, OUR CLIMATE IS NOT LIKE PHOENIX AND TUCSON.

DOWN SOUTH, THE PEAKS OF POWER DEMAND AND SOLAR PRODUCTION COINCIDE IN THE SUMMER.

FLAGSTAFF IS THE OPPOSITE.

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OUR GREATEST POWER DEMAND IS IN WINTER WHEN SOLAR POWER PRODUCTION IS AT A MINIMUM.

WINTER DAYS ARE SHORT, SKIES FREQUENTLY OVERCAST AND SOLAR PANELS ARE OFTEN COVERED WITH SNOW.

WINDS, TOO, ARE VARIABLE IN WINTER AND WIND TURBINES ARE VULNERABLE TO FREEZING TEMPERATURES.

IMPLEMENTING THE CNP'S ELECTRIC POWER PLAN WILL CREATE A PERFECT STORM OF HIGHEST POWER DEMAND AND LOWEST POWER AVAILABLE.

THE CNP WILL CREATE A CITY OVERLY DEPENDENT ON ELECTRICITY AND VULNERABLE TO OUTAGES DURING FREEZING WINTER TEMPERATURES.

LIVES, ESPECIALLY OF THE ELDERLY, WILL BE AT RISK.

CURRENTLY, WE ENJOY THE SECURITY OF ENERGY DIVERSITY.

OUR SOURCES INCLUDE NUCLEAR, NATURAL GAS AND COAL, IN ADDITION TO RENEWABLES.

ENERGY DIVERSITY GUARANTEES SUSTAINABILITY.

TO PUT THE PEOPLE OF FLAGSTAFF FIRST, PRESERVE OUR ENERGY DIVERSITY.

ANOTHER SHORTCOMING OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IS THAT IT IS DEVOID OF ANY COST FIGURES.

THE LACK OF FINANCIAL DATA IS ASTONISHING CONSIDERING THE PERVASIVENESS OF THE PLAN.

THE CNP WILL AFFECT VIRTUALLY EVERY ASPECT OF LIFE IN FLAGSTAFF FOR DECADES, AND YET WE HAVE NO IDEA AT WHAT COST. ONE THING WE DO KNOW IS THAT TUCSON'S CITY COUNCIL DID PROVIDE COST FIGURES FOR THEIR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND PUT THE PLAN ON THE BALLOT FOR THE PEOPLE TO DECIDE.

I CHALLENGE YOU TO TAKE THE ETHICAL HIGH ROAD, JUST LIKE TUCSON DID, DISCLOSE THE FULL COST OF IMPLEMENTING THE CNP.

AND PLACE THE PLAN BEFORE THE VOTERS FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

STEFAN SOMMER.

HELLO, MAYOR DAGGETT AND CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF.

CITIZENS OF FLAGSTAFF.

MY NAME IS STEFAN SOMMER.

I LIVE AT 3855 SOUTH JEWEL DRIVE IN FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE NORTHERN ARIZONA CLIMATE CHANGE ALLIANCE, AS I BELIEVE YOU ALL ARE AWARE.

AND I'D LIKE TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN WORKED OUT AND THESE KINDS OF SCARY NOTIONS ABOUT ITS UNRELIABILITY ARE INCORRECT.

WIND TURBINES ARE USED AT THE ARCTIC RESEARCH STATION AND THEY WORK JUST FINE.

BUT WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO SAY WAS THE NAH PROPOSAL AND BUILDING AGREEMENT ARE TOTALLY INADEQUATE WITH REGARD TO SUSTAINABILITY.

NAH IS PROPOSING A HOSPITAL THAT IS NOT UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS AND WILL BE LONG OUT OF DATE BEFORE IT FIRST OPENS ITS DOORS.

AT 1 MILLION TONS OF CO2 EMISSIONS TO BUILD THIS PROJECT AND 20,000 TONS OF CO2 ANNUAL OPERATING COST TO RUN THIS FACILITY, THIS PROPOSAL COMPLETELY BLOCKS THE CITY FROM REACHING ITS GOAL OF NET ZERO BY 2030.

AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT GOAL FOR US AND FOR THE WORLD.

YOUR DECISION LAST TUESDAY TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL WITHOUT REQUIRING THEM TO PROVIDE THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT REVERSES YEARS OF PROGRESS ON THIS ISSUE.

WHERE IS FLAGSTAFF'S SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION IN THIS PROCESS? WHY HAS NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS NOT BEEN CALLED TO THE STAND DURING ANY OF THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS? Y'ALL HAD A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DONE ON THIS PROJECT? WHY WASN'T THERE A SUSTAINABILITY IMPACT ANALYSIS DONE AS WELL? I UNDERSTAND THAT NICOLE PROVIDED INPUT ON THE NAH PROPOSAL BACK IN 2021.

HAVE HER RECOMMENDATIONS BEEN FOLLOWED? THE ANSWER IS NO, THEY HAVE NOT.

PLEASE BRING HER BACK INTO THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE YOU FINALIZE YOUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH NAH.

CALL NICOLE TO THE STAND BEFORE THIS PROCESS IS OVER.

SHE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU FROM MAKING WHAT WILL BE KNOWN AS THE WORST MISTAKE IN FLAGSTAFF'S ENVIRONMENTAL HISTORY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

KATHY FLACCUS.

HI, I'M KATHY FLACCUS.

I LIVE AT 1021 NORTH HOPI DRIVE.

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SO WHAT I KNOW EVERYBODY BRINGS UP WRITTEN STATEMENTS AND THEY'RE REALLY THEY'RE REALLY GOOD.

BUT I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU FROM MY HEART THAT I HOPE YOU HAVE THE COURAGE TO DENY THE ZONING TO NAH.

ME PERSONALLY, I CAN I WALK TO THE HOSPITAL TO HAVE MY SON THAT IT'S EASY WHERE IT IS FOR FOR MANY NEIGHBORHOODS IN FLAGSTAFF, THERE IS NO WAY I COULD DO THAT WITH WHERE THE HOSPITAL IS INTENDING TO MOVE.

I THINK THAT THE SPRAWL LITTLE CAUSE WILL HAVE TERRIBLE EFFECTS ON OUR TOWN.

MANY PEOPLE LOVE FLAGSTAFF BECAUSE IT'S NOT PHOENIX THIS MOVING THE NAH IS A MOVE TOWARD PHOENIX-ING FLAGSTAFF.

AND THAT'S NOT WHY WE LIVE HERE.

BUT THE OTHER THINGS I'M WORRIED ABOUT ARE THE COST.

I WOULD RATHER HAVE FLAGSTAFF SPEND ITS MONEY ON MORE PARKS AND HOUSING AND THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME THAT WE NEED INSTEAD OF HAVING THESE ADDITIONAL COSTS BECAUSE THE HOSPITAL WANTS TO MOVE THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

WE HAVE NEEDS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED FOR A LONG TIME THAT ARE NOT MET.

BUT THIS ADDS ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT BEFORE.

SO TO ME, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

AND JUST AS STEFAN SAID, THE EFFECT ON THE CLIMATE, JUST TODAY IN THE NEW YORK TIMES, THEY'VE SAID THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE HOTTER THAN THE LAST YEAR, AND WE KNOW THAT WILL CONTINUE.

WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO LESSEN THE CARBON THAT WE ARE PUTTING OUT.

THERE ARE JUST SO MANY REASONS TO DENY THAT ZONING.

SO WHAT I IMPLORE YOU, WHAT I BEG YOU IS TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE OF FLAGSTAFF THAT ARE TALKING TO YOU FROM THEIR HEARTS WITHOUT ANY PAY. YOU HAVE PEOPLE FROM NAH THAT GET PAID TO TALK TO YOU, BUT SO MANY PEOPLE COME AND WRITE LETTERS AND TALK TO YOU FROM THEIR HEARTS. SO I ASK YOU TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO LISTEN TO THAT.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 5, REVIEW OF DRAFT AGENDA FOR THE JUNE 6TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

[5. Review of Draft Agenda for the June 6, 2023 City Council Meeting Citizens wishing to speak on agenda items not specifically called out by the City Council may submit a speaker card for their items of interest to the recording clerk.]

COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE DOWN TO ITEMS NUMBER 6, 7 AND 8.

[6. Proclamation: Two Spirit Day]

THREE PROCLAMATIONS.

THE FIRST IS TWO SPIRIT DAY.

THE NEXT IS GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY, AND THE THIRD IS LGBTQIA2S+ MONTH.

AND WE WILL BE ASKING REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE VARIOUS GROUPS TO JOIN US UP HERE ON THE DAIS.

ALL RIGHT. SO, COUNCIL, PLEASE.

WELCOME. WE ARE STANDING IN A LINE. YOU CAN JUST COME UP HERE.

TWO SPIRIT INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN PRESENT IN INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES SINCE BEFORE TIME AND IMMEMORIAL FOR COUNTLESS GENERATIONS THAT PREDATE LGBTQ+ TERMINOLOGY.

FOR GENERATIONS TWO SPIRIT NATIVE CULTURE WENT UNDERGROUND TO AVOID DETECTION AND PERSECUTION.

THE TERM TWO SPIRIT WAS ADOPTED IN 1990, IN AT THE INTERNATIONAL NATIVE GAY AND LESBIAN GATHERING IN WINNIPEG, CANADA, AS A MEANS OF UNIFYING VARIOUS GENDER IDENTITIES AND EXPRESSIONS OF NATIVE AMERICAN FIRST NATIONS INDIGENOUS INDIVIDUALS.

THE TERM IS NOT A SPECIFIC DEFINITION OF GENDER OR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, BUT RATHER AN UMBRELLA TERM.

AND TWO SPIRIT PEOPLE HAVE BOTH A MALE AND FEMALE SPIRIT WITHIN THEM THAT ARE BLESSED BY THEIR CREATOR TO SEE LIFE THROUGH THE EYES OF BOTH OR MULTIPLE GENDERS.

THE TERM DOES NOT DIMINISH THE TRIBAL SPECIFIC NAMES, ROLES AND TRADITIONS INDIGENOUS NATIONS HAVE FOR THE RESPECTIVE TWO SPIRIT PEOPLE.

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EXAMPLES OF SUCH TRADITIONAL NAMES ARE THE [INAUDIBLE].

MY APOLOGIES.

AMONG THE HAVASUPAI, THE NADLEEHI, AMONG THE WHITE RIVER APACHE AND THE NUNNEHI AMONG THE NAVAJO PEOPLE. THESE TRADITIONAL NAMES AND ROLES GO BACK TO A TIME BEFORE COLONIZATION AND WESTERN RELIGION.

TWO SPIRIT IS NOT A NEW AGE MOVEMENT, BUT RATHER A RECLAMATION OF TWO SPIRITS, TRADITIONAL IDENTITY AND ROLES WITHIN INDIGENOUS CULTURE.

THEY ARE HELD IN HIGH REGARD FOR EXAMPLE, CARETAKERS, MEDICINE, PEOPLE, SPIRITUAL LEADERS AND TO BE OF SERVICE TO THEIR COMMUNITIES.

THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF RECOGNIZES THAT CLAIMING THE ROLE OF TWO SPIRIT IS TO TAKE ON THE SPIRITUAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE ROLE TRADITIONALLY HAS. WALKING THE RED ROAD, WHICH INCLUDES SUPPORTING ALL OF OUR INDIGENOUS RELATIVES AND THE ENVIRONMENT TO BE A GUIDING FORCE WITH A GOOD MIND, GOOD INTENTION AND A GOOD HEART AND THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES.

NOW, THEREFORE, I BECKY DAGGETT, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, DO PROCLAIM JUNE 2ND, 2023, AS TWO SPIRIT DAY IN FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA.

OH, WHAT DO I DO? DO YOU WANT ME TO STAND AT THE PODIUM OR STAND RIGHT HERE INTO THE MICROPHONE? I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE MICROPHONE.

HI. HI. I'M CAT JIM.

I'M A TWO SPIRIT INDIVIDUAL HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

I ALSO LIVE IN MOUNTAINAIRE, SO I FEEL FOR THOSE WITH THE CARBON NEUTRAL FOR THE NEW NAH BUILDING.

I DO FEEL FOR YOU ON THAT.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE I DON'T LIVE IN TOWN SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR YOU ALL.

BUT FOR THE MOUNTAINAIRE PEOPLE AND KACHINA FOLKS, WE SUPPORT YOU ON THAT.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.

ANYWAY, I HAVEN'T BEEN ON A MIC FOR A WHILE.

AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE I'M TAKING A BREAK AND IT'S BEEN A NICE FEW YEARS OF TAKING A BREAK OF BEING LGBTQIA2 TWO SPIRIT LEADER IN FLAGSTAFF FOR OVER 18 YEARS.

SEEING WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS SOMETHING NEW, ESPECIALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY WITH OUR TRANSGENDER, MY TRANSGENDER FAMILY.

I HAVE BEEN TAKING TESTOSTERONE FOR OVER A YEAR.

I AM TRANSITIONING AND IT'S SOMETHING NEW FOR ME AND SOMETHING NEW TO SOME OF THESE FOLKS HERE TOO, WHO ARE STANDING BEHIND ME WHO HAVE SEEN ME OVER THE YEARS STANDING AND FIGHTING FOR LGBTQ RIGHTS.

WE STILL HAVE MORE TO DO HERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES FOR TWO SPIRITS AND ESPECIALLY FOR OUR TRANS COMMUNITY.

WE FAILED WE'VE ABSOLUTELY FAILED AND IT'S TIME I'LL DEFINITELY COME BACK AND SPEAK TO COUNCIL, LET THEM KNOW THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE A FEW THINGS, CHANGE OUR CIVIL RIGHTS ORDINANCE AND MAKE IT MORE PROTECTED FOR OUR TRANS INDIVIDUALS, ESPECIALLY OUR TRANS YOUTH.

ALSO, WE DEFINITELY NEED A COMMUNITY CENTER.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S STABLE AND GROUNDS.

THOSE IN OUR YOUTH AND THOSE WHO ARE ARE OLDER AND THOSE WHO ARE LIKE MYSELF.

WE NEED IT. IT'S BEEN FAR TOO LONG.

I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

I KNOW YOU'RE ALL HERE FOR A PURPOSE.

BUT THANK YOU, BECKY, MIRANDA, ALL OF YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU. LOVE YOU GUYS.

LOVE YOU, TOO, SO MUCH.

I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE HERE, HOLLY.

EVERYBODY. I'M HOLLY FIGUEROA.

I COME FROM THE HOPI PEOPLE FROM THE SUN CLAN, FROM THE VILLAGE OF SIPAULOVI ON HOPI LAND, WHICH IS NORTHEAST ARIZONA.

AND I MAKE THE SAN FRANCISCO PEAKS MY HOME HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK MAYOR DAGGETT AND THE COUNCIL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROCLAIM JUNE 2ND AS TWO SPIRIT DAY.

AS A TRIBAL LIAISON FOR BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, ARIZONA HEALTH CHOICE, AND ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE ARIZONA RURAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION.

WE REALLY NEED TO DO OUR WORK IN ENSURING HEALTH EQUITY, ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ENSURE HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF OUR TWO SPIRIT LGBTQ MEMBERS ON AND OFF RESERVATION.

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THERE IS SO MUCH TO BE BRAIDED TOGETHER IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE WORK COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER WITH OUR TRIBAL AND NON-TRIBAL HEALTH CARE PARTNERS, OUR COMMUNITIES TO ENSURE HEALTH AND WELLNESS NOT ONLY FOR OUR ADULTS.

WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT OUR ADULT LGBTQ POPULATION, BUT ALSO WE HAVE AN ELDERLY COMMUNITY THAT IS REALLY IN NEED OF ENSURING CARE AS WELL AS OUR ADOLESCENT POPULATION WAS JUST AT A NATIONAL CONFERENCE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

AND THERE ARE STATES IN OUR COUNTRY THAT ARE TOTALLY ILLEGALIZING ADOLESCENT LGBTQ HEALTH CARE.

AND SO I'M REALLY THANKFUL THAT WE LIVE IN A CITY AND A STATE THAT SUPPORTS OUR TWO SPIRIT LGBTQ IN TERMS OF THEIR HEALTH AND WELLNESS. AND SO AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'D LOVE TO INVITE YOU ALL TO OUR ANNUAL TWO SPIRIT LGBTQ HEALTH MATTERS CONFERENCE ON JUNE 16TH OUT AT THE TWIN ARROWS CASINO RESORT. WE HAVE A DAY FULL OF HEALTH CARE PRESENTATIONS BY ADOLESCENT IHS DOCTORS, SOME COMMUNITY HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS AND PARTNERS.

IF YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THE POPULATION, I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME AND INCREASE YOUR HEALTH LITERACY AROUND OUR TWO SPIRIT LGBTQ.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH FOR FOR THIS HONOR OF THE TWO SPIRIT DAY AND REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO PRIDE MONTH.

IT'S ALWAYS ONE OF THE THE FUN TIMES OF THE YEAR TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND HONOR AND CELEBRATE THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE US.

AND SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

I GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH FOLKS LIKE KAT AND SEAN AND OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS AS AN ALLY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I LIVE HERE, I'M FROM HERE, MY KIDS ARE GOING TO BE HERE.

SO I'M REALLY THANKFUL FOR BEING ABLE TO BE AN ADVOCATE AND ALLY FOR THE TWO SPIRIT LGBTQ COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] NEXT WAS GUN VIOLENCE.

CORRECT. WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO COME DOWN OR WHOEVER WANTS TO COME DOWN AND JOIN US? YOU DON'T WANT TO COME DOWN.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET A BIGGER DAIS.

AND YOU CAN SOME CAN GO UP IN FRONT OF COUNCIL RIGHT THERE.

MAYBE THE TALLER ONES.

[7. Proclamation: Gun Violence Awareness Day]

EVERY DAY, MORE THAN 120 AMERICANS ARE KILLED BY GUN VIOLENCE AND MORE THAN 200 ARE SHOT AND WOUNDED, WITH AN AVERAGE OF MORE THAN 17,000 GUN HOMICIDES EVERY YEAR.

AMERICANS ARE 26 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DIE BY GUN HOMICIDE THAN PEOPLE IN OTHER HIGH INCOME COUNTRIES.

ARIZONA HAS 1,228 GUN DEATHS EVERY YEAR, WITH A RATE OF 16.4 DEATHS PER 100,000 PEOPLE, A CRISIS THAT COSTS THE STATE $15.9 BILLION DOLLARS EACH YEAR, OF WHICH 253.2 MILLION IS PAID BY TAXPAYERS.

ARIZONA HAS THE 18TH HIGHEST RATE OF GUN DEATHS IN THE US.

GUN HOMICIDES AND ASSAULTS ARE CONCENTRATED IN CITIES WITH MORE THAN HALF OF ALL FIREARM RELATED GUN DEATHS IN THE NATION, OCCURRING IN 127 CITIES.

CITIES ACROSS THE NATION, INCLUDING IN ARIZONA, ARE WORKING TO END SENSELESS VIOLENCE AND EVIDENCE BASED SOLUTIONS.

PROTECTING PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE IS A MAYOR'S HIGHEST RESPONSIBILITY.

SUPPORT FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF LAW ABIDING CITIZENS GOES HAND IN HAND WITH KEEPING GUNS AWAY FROM PEOPLE WITH DANGEROUS HISTORIES.

MAYORS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LOCAL VIOLENCE INTERVENTION ACTIVISTS AND RESOURCES, KNOW THEIR COMMUNITIES BEST AND ARE MOST FAMILIAR WITH LOCAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND HOW TO ADDRESS IT, AND ARE BEST POSITIONED TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO KEEP THEIR CITIZENS SAFE.

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GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER AS WE SEE AN INCREASE IN FIREARM HOMICIDES AND NON-FATAL SHOOTINGS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, INCREASED CALLS TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOTLINES AND AN INCREASE IN CITY GUN VIOLENCE.

IN JANUARY 2013, HADIYA PENDLETON WAS TRAGICALLY SHOT AND KILLED AT AGE 15 AND ON JUNE 2ND, 2023, TO RECOGNIZE THE 26TH BIRTHDAY OF HADIYA PENDLETON BORN JUNE 2ND, 1997. PEOPLE ACROSS THE UNITED STATES WILL RECOGNIZE NATIONAL GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY AND WEAR ORANGE IN TRIBUTE TO HADIYA PENDLETON AND OTHER VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE AND THE LOVED ONES OF THOSE VICTIMS. THE IDEA WAS INSPIRED BY A GROUP OF HADIYA'S FRIENDS WHO ASKED THEIR CLASSMATES TO COMMEMORATE HER LIFE BY WEARING ORANGE.

THEY CHOSE THIS COLOR BECAUSE HUNTERS WEAR ORANGE TO ANNOUNCE THEMSELVES TO OTHER HUNTERS WHEN OUT IN THE WOODS.

AND ORANGE IS A COLOR THAT SYMBOLIZES THE VALUE OF HUMAN LIFE.

ANYONE CAN JOIN THIS CAMPAIGN BY PLEDGING TO WEAR ORANGE ON JUNE 2ND, THE FIRST FRIDAY IN JUNE IN 2023, TO HELP RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE.

BY WEARING ORANGE ON JUNE 2ND AMERICANS WILL RAISE AWARENESS THAT GUN VIOLENCE AND HONOR THE LIVES OF GUN VIOLENCE VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS.

WE RENEW OUR COMMITMENT TO REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE AND PLEDGE TO DO ALL WE CAN TO KEEP FIREARMS OUT OF THE HANDS OF PEOPLE WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THEM AND ENCOURAGE RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERSHIP TO HELP KEEP OUR FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES SAFE.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT MAYOR BECKY DAGGETT OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF DECLARES THE FIRST FRIDAY IN JUNE, JUNE 2ND, 2023, TO BE NATIONAL GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY.

I ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO SUPPORT THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITIES EFFORTS TO PREVENT THE TRAGIC EFFECTS OF GUN VIOLENCE AND TO HONOR AND VALUE HUMAN LIVES.

[APPLAUSE] WE'LL TAKE A PHOTO.

SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO.

THE MAYOR DAGGETT AND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR AGAIN, RECOGNIZING GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY.

THIS IS THE NINTH YEAR OF THE WEAR ORANGE CAMPAIGN AND THE SEVENTH YEAR THAT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS SUPPORTED THE CAMPAIGN TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE AND TO HONOR THE VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS.

SO WE THANK YOU, MAYOR DAGGETT AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND WE ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.

AND TO HELP US TO FIND SOLUTIONS AND SUPPORT SOLUTIONS TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

PROBABLY YOU ALL WOKE UP TO THE SAME NEWS THAT I DID THAT THIS WAS THE WORST WEEKEND FOR MASS SHOOTINGS IN A DECADE AND AT LEAST 14 DEAD ON MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND AND AT LEAST 58 PEOPLE INJURED.

IN MESA 4 PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND ONE WAS INJURED.

SO WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

BUT LIKE THE PROCLAMATION SAYS, IF WE ALL STAND TOGETHER, WEAR ORANGE ON THAT DAY, WE CREATE AWARENESS THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE WILL SUPPORT AND THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO PERSIST AND FIGHT FOR.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

[APPLAUSE] OKAY.

SO WE HAVE SOMEONE ON LINE FOR THE NEXT ONE.

IS THAT CORRECT? WE DO.

MAYOR YES. JEAN TONER, I BELIEVE.

YES, THERE SHE IS.

[8. Proclamation: LGBTQIA2S+ Month]

ALL RIGHT. IT'S MY HONOR TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION.

THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO ENHANCE, EMBRACE, RESPECT AND CELEBRATE DIVERSITY, ESPECIALLY IN THE LIVES OF OUR LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER,

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QUEER AND OR QUESTIONING INTERSEX, ASEXUAL, TWO SPIRIT, AND THE COUNTLESS AFFIRMATIVE WAYS IN WHICH PEOPLE CHOOSE TO SELF-IDENTIFY LGBTQIA2S+ COMMUNITY.

AS WE REFLECT ON THE PROGRESS FLAGSTAFF HAS MADE IN THE FIGHT FOR EQUALITY, INCLUSION AND JUSTICE AT OUR COMMUNITY AND ABROAD, AND THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF REAFFIRMS THE COMMITMENT TO INCREASE SUPPORT OF THE LGBTQIA2S+ COMMUNITY SINCE THE 1969 STONEWALL UPRISING IN NEW YORK AND CONTINUES TO CELEBRATE AND FIGHT FOR EQUAL RIGHTS.

THE 2023 THEME FOR PRIDE MONTH IS BEHIND THE LENS, WHICH REPRESENTS AND CELEBRATES LGBTQIA2S+ PEOPLE'S CONTRIBUTION TO CINEMA AND FILM FROM BEHIND THE LENS, FROM DIRECTORS AND SCREENWRITERS TO COSTUME DESIGNERS AND BEYOND.

THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS FOUGHT AND WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT TO MAKE THE POSSIBILITIES OF THE LGBTQIA2S+ COMMUNITY REAL FOR EVERY RESIDENT AND INCREASE THE VISIBILITY, AWARENESS, DIGNITY AND EQUALITY, MAKING INSTITUTIONS SAFER FOR THE COMMUNITY AND PROMOTE THE WELFARE OF LGBTQIA2S+ PEOPLE.

AT PRESENT THERE ARE SEVERAL ANTI LGBTQIA2S+ LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN INTRODUCED AND PASSED IN STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY TARGETING TRANSGENDER CHILDREN AND THEIR PARENTS AND INTERFERING WITH THEIR ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE.

MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OF COLOR AND TRANSGENDER PEOPLE, CONTINUE TO FACE DISCRIMINATION AND EFFORTS UNDERMINING THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS.

AND THESE UNACCEPTABLE ATTACKS HAVE LEFT COUNTLESS LGBTQIA2S+ FAMILIES IN DEEP FEAR AND PAIN, WHICH COMPOUNDED DIFFICULTY ON THE YOUTH OF WHOM SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED ATTEMPTING SUICIDE WITHIN THE LAST YEAR.

THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF UNDERSTANDS THAT THE RIGHTS OF LGBTQIA2S+ AMERICANS ARE UNDER PERSISTENT ATTACK.

THIS IS A DEVASTATING REALITY THAT OUR COMMUNITY, STATE AND NATION SHOULD WORK URGENTLY TO ADDRESS.

EVERY JUNE, OUR NATION UNITES TO OBSERVE PRIDE MONTH WITH THE RAISING OF THE RAINBOW FLAG, TO HONOR THE HISTORY OF THE LGBTQIA2S+ LIBERATION MOVEMENT AND TO SUPPORT THE RIGHTS OF ALL UNITED STATES RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS, AND TO ELIMINATE HOMOPHOBIA, FOSTERING EQUALITY AND FREEDOM FROM DISCRIMINATION.

THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF TAKES PRIDE IN IDENTIFYING THAT HUMAN, CIVIL AND EQUAL RIGHTS NURTURE A STRONGER COMMUNITY FOUNDATION LEADING TO AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY TO BE ENJOYED BY ALL, WHILE PROMOTING AN ATMOSPHERE THAT IS WELCOMING, ACCEPTING AND RESPECTFUL TO THE LGBTQIA2S+ PEOPLE.

THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF ACKNOWLEDGES THE NEED FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION AND AWARENESS THAT IS VITAL TO FINALLY END DISCRIMINATION AND PREJUDICE AND CELEBRATING PRIDE MONTH SHOULD FOSTER AWARENESS AND ENGAGING IN DIALOG TO STRENGTHEN ADVOCACY FOR THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY, BUILDING ACCEPTANCE AND IMPROVING EQUAL RIGHTS.

AS WE CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE EFFORTS IN MAKING FLAGSTAFF A COMMUNITY INCLUSIVE OF ITS LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER, QUEER AND OR QUESTIONING, INTERSEX, ASEXUAL, TWO SPIRIT AND THE COUNTLESS AFFIRMATIVE WAYS IN WHICH PEOPLE CHOOSE TO SELF-IDENTIFY POPULATION.

THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF COMMISSION ON DIVERSITY AWARENESS AND THE NORTHERN ARIZONA PRIDE ASSOCIATION RECOMMEND THE DESIGNATION OF JUNE 2023 AS PRIDE MONTH. NOW, THEREFORE, I, ON BEHALF OF BECKY DAGGETT, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 2023 AS PRIDE MONTH IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, IN RECOGNITION OF CELEBRATING, EMBRACING COMPASSION AND FOSTERING ACCEPTANCE FOR THE LGBTQIA2S+ COMMUNITY, AND IN UNISON CELEBRATE WITH A PRIDE PARADE AND PRIDE IN THE PINES FESTIVAL AND OTHER LOCAL AND STATEWIDE OBSERVANCES.

[APPLAUSE] AND SEAN, AM I CORRECT THAT THERE'S NO ONE IN PERSON? CORRECT. JEAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REINFORCE THE INVITATION FOR EVERYBODY TO COME TO THE VERY FIRST ANNUAL EVER FLAGSTAFF PRIDE PARADE AT 9:00 ON ON THE MORNING OF THE 17TH SATURDAY PRIOR TO THE FESTIVAL PRIDE IN THE PINES, AND ALSO EXPRESS GRATITUDE FOR THE WELCOMINGNESS OF THIS CITY COUNCIL AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATIVE.

THANK YOU.

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[APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT.

[9. May Work Anniversaries Recognition of employees celebrating work anniversaries in the month of April]

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

GREAT TO SEE YOU THIS AFTERNOON.

SHANNON ANDERSON, YOUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

I'M PULLING UP THE PRESENTATION TO CELEBRATE OUR MAY WORK ANNIVERSARIES.

SO TO KICK US OFF OUR FIVE YEAR ANNIVERSARIES, ROBERT WALLACE IS OUR OPEN SPACE SUPERVISOR IN OUR PROSE DIVISION.

SO HE'S CELEBRATING HIS FIFTH YEAR WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF THIS MONTH.

WE HAVE KEITH CHAMBERLAIN.

HE'S PART OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES, WORKS WITH SBK AS A GRANTS AND CONTRACTS SPECIALIST.

HE IS ALSO CELEBRATING FIVE YEARS THIS MONTH.

ANOTHER FIVE YEAR ANNIVERSARY.

DANIEL LOGAN HE'S ONE OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS MANAGERS.

HE IS IN SOLID WASTE CURRENTLY ON MILITARY LEAVE.

SO THANKS TO HIM FOR HIS SERVICE, DANIEL IS CELEBRATING AGAIN, HIS FIVE YEAR ANNIVERSARY.

MOVING ON TO TENURES, WE HAVE OFFICER EXCUSE ME, SERGEANT SAPP.

HE ACTUALLY HAS WORKED FOR THE DEPARTMENT FOR TEN YEARS.

MARIANNE SULLIVAN ALSO WORKS WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AS THEIR LEGAL COUNSEL.

SHE'S CELEBRATING HER 10TH WORK ANNIVERSARY.

RYAN CHURCH HE'S ONE OF OUR FIRE ENGINEERS WITHIN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

HE'S CELEBRATING 20 YEARS WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF THIS MONTH.

AND MOVING ON TO 25 YEARS PLUS.

OUR FIRST IS MARION LEE.

MARION ACTUALLY WORKS IN WATER SERVICES.

SHE'S BEEN A FAMILIAR FACE THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

SHE WAS HIRED ACTUALLY IN CUSTOMER SERVICE.

SO THAT'S PART OF OUR MANAGEMENT SERVICES TEAM FOR WATER NEEDS AND HAS BEEN PART OF THE TEAM EVER SINCE.

AS SHE SHARED WITH US, THAT WATER IS HER BUSINESS, AND THE PEOPLE THAT SHE WORKS WITH IS WHY SHE'S STILL HERE AT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

RECENTLY, SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PROCESS TO MANAGE A MASSIVE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WITH COCONINO COUNTY.

SHE'S EXECUTED THE AGREEMENT WITH EASE COMPARED TO THE WORK INVOLVED WITH ANSWERING CUSTOMER QUESTIONS, DRAFTING FORM LETTERS, RECORDING DOCUMENTS WITH THE COUNTY CLERK AND KEEPING WATER SERVICES STAFF ON TRACK.

SHE'S ALSO BEEN HARD AT WORK TRAINING THE NEW ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT AND WATER SERVICES DIVISION DIRECTOR, SHANNON JONES.

SHANNON SHARED WITH US THAT MARION IS THE REASON I'M STILL HERE, SAYS SHANNON JONES, WATER SERVICES DIVISION DIRECTOR.

IF NOT FOR HER, I WOULD NOT KNOW WHERE MY OFFICE IS OR EVEN BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR SECURITY SYSTEM.

SO SHE'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO SHANNON AS HE'S JOINED OUR TEAM.

THANKS, MARION, FOR YOUR 28 YEARS OF SERVICE TO WATER SERVICES AND OUR COMMUNITY.

I KNOW MARION IS ACTUALLY HAD A DIFFERENT APPOINTMENT THIS AFTERNOON, SO ISN'T ABLE TO JOIN US, BUT SHE WAS APPRECIATIVE OF THE RECOGNITION.

MOVING ON TO GGRANT KELLY.

HE'S WORKING IN OUR FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS HIRED IN MAY OF 1995, SO CELEBRATING 28 YEARS WITH US.

HE ATTENDED THE POLICE ACADEMY IN TUCSON AND WORKED THE MAJORITY OF HIS CAREER IN PATROL WITH A FEW SABBATICALS IN THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION SECTION.

HE SERVED AS A FIELD TRAINING OFFICER AND WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN TRAINING MANY OF OUR CURRENT SUPERVISORS WHEN THEY WERE HIRED AS NEW OFFICERS.

HE BEGAN AS WORKING AS A SERGEANT IN 2012 AND HAD AN EXCELLENT WORK ETHIC AND EXTREMELY PASSIONATE ABOUT COMMUNITY POLICING.

HE HAS SERVED AS THE SUNNYSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD SERGEANT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

HE WAS CERTIFIED AS A BOMB TECHNICIAN AND SERVED AS A TEAM LEADER FOR YEARS FOR THIS TEAM AS WELL.

HE SPENT MANY NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS WORKING AS THE ON CALL BOMB TECHNICIAN AND ALWAYS RESPONDED WHEN HE WAS NEEDED TO HANDLE SUSPICIOUS ITEMS. THROUGHOUT HIS 28 YEARS, HE'S ALWAYS OFFERED A HELPING HAND TO PATROL AND DETECTIVES.

HE IS A PAST RECIPIENT OF A LIFE SAVING AWARD CITY MANAGER'S EXCELLENCE AWARD AND OFFICER OF THE YEAR AWARD.

HE'S DRESSED OUT AND CAME IN TO WORK ON HIS OWN WHEN HE LEARNED OF OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS, HOMICIDES AND OTHER CRITICAL INCIDENTS.

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HIS FILE IS FULL OF ACCOMMODATIONS FOR OUTSTANDING CUSTOMER SERVICE, CONDUCTING GOOD INVESTIGATIONS, ENDING A CARJACKING AND APPREHENDING AN ARMED AND DANGEROUS BURGLARY SUSPECT.

SO OUR APPRECIATION TO SERGEANT KELLY.

I BELIEVE HE IS OUT OF THE OFFICE AND SO HE WILL NOT BE JOINING US TODAY EITHER.

BUT WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE HIS SERVICE.

THAT IS THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN ON JUNE 20TH TO CELEBRATE OUR JUNE WORK ANNIVERSARIES.

THANK YOU, SHANNON.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 10, RESOURCE PLANNING FOR ELECTRIC GRID RELIABILITY.

[10. Resource Planning for Electric Grid Reliability Informational discussion from APS on electric grid reliability.]

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M JENNY NIEMANN, CLIMATE PROGRAM MANAGER IN THE SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION.

AND I'M ACTUALLY HERE WITH MY FRIENDS FROM APS TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE ELECTRIC GRID.

IT'S REALLY EXCITING TIME IN THE ENERGY LANDSCAPE.

WE ARE SEEING SHIFTS ACROSS THE GLOBAL LANDSCAPE.

AS FLAGSTAFF CHANGES HOW WE USE ENERGY THE NATION IS CHANGING HOW IT USES ENERGY.

OUR REGION IS, BUT SO IS THE WORLD.

WE'RE PART OF A REGIONAL ELECTRIC GRID, AND WHEN WE DISCUSS ENERGY, WE'VE GOTTEN SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE CHANGING ENERGY LANDSCAPE WILL IMPACT OUR ELECTRIC GRID.

AND SO WE BROUGHT IN THE EXPERTS, OUR FRIENDS AND LEADERS AT APS, AND I'M REALLY JUST HERE TO INTRODUCE THEM WHO WILL LEAD OUR CONVERSATION TONIGHT.

WE HAVE JANET AND JOE HERE WITH US, OUR LOCAL LEADS, AS WELL AS MIKE AND JUDSON, OUR APS EXPERTS WHO WILL JOIN US REMOTELY.

SO, MIKE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAND IT OVER TO YOU.

THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN.

OKAY, FANTASTIC.

I THINK WE HAD SOME SLIDES THAT WERE SENT OVER AS WELL.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE GET PRESENTED IN THE ROOM OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN PRESENT VIA TEAMS. YEAH. MIKE, DO YOU MIND JUST SHARING VIA TEAMS? OKAY, I CAN DO THAT.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU GUYS SEE MY SCREEN? YES, WE CAN. OKAY, FANTASTIC.

APPRECIATE THE TIME TO COME AND SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY.

MY NAME IS MIKE EUGENIS. I'M THE MANAGER OF THE RESOURCE PLANNING GROUP AT APS.

I'VE BEEN WITH APS NOW FOR ABOUT NINE YEARS AND I'VE GOT A BACKGROUND IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING.

BEEN IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS IN THE COMPANY.

THE REMARKS THAT I HAVE PREPARED FOR YOU TODAY FOCUS ON IN AGGREGATE, YOU KNOW, HOW IS LOOKING AT OUR ENERGY FUTURE WITHIN ARIZONA AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF THAT PLAN GOING FORWARD? HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT TALK ABOUT BOTH OUR STRATEGY WHEN IT COMES TO THE INTEGRATION OF RENEWABLES AS WELL AS WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH OUR CURRENT ENERGY MIX.

AND THEN I'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT WHAT WE SEE AS FAR AS LOAD GROWTH INTO THE FUTURE AND THE POTENTIAL FOR DIFFERENT KINDS OF RESOURCES TO MEET OUR ENERGY NEEDS GOING FORWARD. SO WITH THAT, I'LL GET STARTED.

APS HAS A CLEAN ENERGY COMMITMENT THAT I'M SURE MANY ARE AWARE OF, AND THAT'S THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE 45% RENEWABLE ENERGY BY 2030 AND 65% CLEAN ENERGY BY 2030 AS WELL.

AND I KNOW THAT BY LISTENING TO THE REMARKS TODAY THAT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF ALSO HAS THEIR OWN TARGETS WHEN IT COMES TO DECARBONIZATION INTO THE FUTURE.

AND WE ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH OTHER ENTITIES ON THEIR DECARBONIZATION GOALS.

SOME OF THE MAJOR ASPECTS OF OUR RESOURCE PLANNING EFFORTS KIND OF A FOCUS AROUND WHAT'S ON THE SLIDE HERE, WHICH IS PALO VERDE GENERATING STATION, WHICH IS THE LARGEST CLEAN ENERGY PRODUCING POWER PLANT IN THE UNITED STATES, AS WELL AS CONTINUED INVESTMENTS IN SOLAR, WIND AND ENERGY STORAGE, WHICH WE VIEW AS VITAL TECHNOLOGIES TO OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO RELIABLY SERVE THE GROWING LOAD THAT'S IN ARIZONA INTO THE FUTURE AND REALLY CRITICAL IN THE TRANSITION TO A GRID THAT RELIES ON MORE CLEAN ENERGY TECHNOLOGY AND LESS ON THE THERMAL TECHNOLOGIES THAT WERE MORE COMMONPLACE IN THE PAST.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE PLACE A LOT OF RELIANCE ON OUR DEMAND SIDE AND CUSTOMER FOCUSED PROGRAMS. ON THE PHONE TODAY WE HAVE JUDSON, WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT THOSE PROGRAMS LATER.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HE HAS PLENTY OF TIME AND MATERIAL THAT HE CAN COVER WITH YOU.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THOSE IN TOO MUCH DEPTH.

THIS IS A LOOK AT OUR CURRENT RESOURCE MIX THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND HOW APS SERVES ITS CUSTOMERS.

JUST TO KIND OF PAUSE FOR A SECOND HERE TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SLIDE, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE, YOU HAVE A MAP OF ARIZONA AND YOU HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT

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SYMBOLS THAT REPRESENT THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF PLANTS THAT WE UTILIZE.

AND SO WE HAVE SOME COAL FACILITIES THAT ARE STILL IN OPERATION.

THOSE ARE AT TROY AND FOUR CORNERS.

YOU CAN SEE THOSE KIND OF IN THE TOP RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE GRAPH.

NUMEROUS WIND FACILITIES BOTH IN ARIZONA AND IN NEW MEXICO, AS WELL AS NUCLEAR, SOLAR AND NATURAL GAS FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

WE ALSO RELY ON POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENTS FROM MANY OTHER ENTITIES AND AND WILL BE SIGNING ADDITIONAL POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENTS, YOU KNOW, BOTH NOW AND IN THE FUTURE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE OUR LOAD.

ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS A CHART VIEW THAT SHOWS THE BREAKOUT OF OUR RESOURCE MIX TODAY.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF NUCLEAR, COAL AND NATURAL GAS RESOURCES THAT KIND OF FORM THE BEDROCK AND THE FOUNDATION OF OUR CURRENT RESOURCE MIX, BUT ALSO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RENEWABLES THAT WE HAVE ALREADY ACQUIRED ONTO OUR SYSTEM AND WILL BE INTEGRATING MORE OF THOSE RENEWABLES INTO THE FUTURE.

WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF SOLAR AND WIND RESOURCES ON OUR SYSTEM AND SOLAR AND STORAGE RESOURCES ARE STARTING TO BECOME MORE PREVALENT AND ARE STARTING TO COME ONLINE DUE TO THE RECENT CONTRACTING EFFORTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

YOU CAN SEE KIND OF MORE TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF THAT CHART, BOTH ENERGY STORAGE AND INCREMENTAL CUSTOMER BASE TECHNOLOGIES.

WE'RE REALLY JUST STARTING OUR 4A INTO ENERGY STORAGE AND ANTICIPATE THAT THE 265 MEGA WATTS OF NAMEPLATE CAPACITY YOU SEE ON THE CHART TODAY IS GOING TO GROW RAPIDLY TO BE OVER 2000 MEGA WATTS OF THAT WITHIN THIS DECADE.

AND SO BEFORE 2030, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE LARGE SCALE INVESTMENT IN ENERGY STORAGE IN ORDER TO MEET OUR GROWING NEED WITHIN ARIZONA.

AND THEN CUSTOMER BASED TECHNOLOGIES, WHICH ARE COMPRISED OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND DISTRIBUTED ENERGY, ROOFTOP SOLAR BEING AN ASPECT OF THAT AS WELL AS DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS ARE ALSO SIGNIFICANT SOURCE OF ENERGY TO OUR SYSTEM TODAY, AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE SO INTO THE FUTURE.

A LOT OF DISCUSSION WE HAVE IN RESOURCE PLANNING IS REALLY KIND OF FOCUSED ON WHAT IS THE LOAD GOING TO BE IN THE FUTURE.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT THAT.

NOW, BEING THE UTILITY FOR A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF PHOENIX, AND PAYSON, FLAGSTAFF, PRESCOTT , OTHER METROS WITHIN ARIZONA, WE LOOK AT THAT LOAD FORECAST ON AN AGGREGATE BASIS, WHICH MEANS THAT WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT LOCALES, WHAT'S FORECASTED FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL GROWTH INTO THE FUTURE, AND THEN AGGREGATE THAT TOGETHER INTO ONE VIEW OF THAT LOAD.

WHAT YOU SEE ON THE GRAPH IN FRONT OF YOU IS A DEPICTION OF HOW WE SEE THAT LOAD GROWING BOTH FROM 2023 AND ON INTO THE FUTURE THROUGH 2038.

YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT SOME RESIDENTIAL GROWTH THAT'S BEEN INCLUDED KIND OF AT THE BOTTOM AND CNI GROWTH WITHOUT WHAT WE CALL XHLF CUSTOMERS.

XHLF STANDS FOR EXTRA HIGH LOAD FACTOR CUSTOMERS.

AND TYPICALLY THESE ARE DATA CENTER CUSTOMERS OR OTHER CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE NOT VERY VARIABLE LOAD.

AND SO A VERY CONSTANT LOAD ON THE SYSTEM AND HAVE VERY STEADY POWER NEEDS.

WE'VE SEEN IN RECENT YEARS AN EXPLOSION, I WOULD SAY, IN THESE TYPES OF CUSTOMERS WITHIN OUR SERVICE TERRITORY.

AND THEY MAKE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR LOAD FORECASTS INTO THE FUTURE.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE THESE XHLF CUSTOMERS BROKEN OUT INTO TWO CATEGORIES THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE WITH THE LIGHTER GRAY CATEGORY KIND OF BEING A MORE CONSERVATIVE SCENARIO THAT SAYS IF ONLY SOME OF THESE CUSTOMERS COME ONLINE OR IF THEY GROW AT A SLOWER RATE AND THE DARKER GRAY SCENARIO BEING IF MORE OF THOSE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE IN OUR PIPELINE GO AND SERVICE THE IMPACT THAT THAT WOULD HAVE ON THE TOTAL ENERGY NEEDS WITHIN ARIZONA.

YOU CAN SEE JUST BY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, EYEBALLING THE PERCENTAGES ON THIS GRAPH, THESE XHLF CUSTOMERS MAKE A HUGE PORTION OF OUR LOAD INTO THE FUTURE, ESPECIALLY IF WE SEE THE DEMAND GROW ACCORDING TO SOME OF THEIR PROJECTIONS.

AND WITH THE EXPLOSION OF THINGS LIKE AI TECHNOLOGIES, WHICH ARE VERY HEAVY IN COMPUTING POWER, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON WHAT THE LOAD FORECAST WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE.

ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS GRAPH I'D LIKE TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO IS ELECTRIC VEHICLES ALSO MAKES A SLICE OF THIS AND YOU CAN SEE THAT KIND OF IN THE YELLOW COLOR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GRAPH. WE HAVE SOME FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE TARGETS, I WOULD SAY, AND FORECASTS FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE ADOPTION AND ESTIMATES FOR

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ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN ARIZONA EVEN ON A YEARLY BASIS ARE ABSOLUTELY, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, EXPLODING AND RISING, YOU KNOW, ALMOST EXPONENTIALLY INTO THE FUTURE TO SEE THE ADOPTION OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES, EVEN WITH REALLY HIGH ADOPTION RATES OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL SALES, WE SEE THESE AS BEING KIND OF A LITTLE LESS OF A DETERMINING FACTOR WHEN COMPARED TO THE OTHER SOURCES OF GROWTH IN OUR SYSTEM.

AND SO THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE ARE AWARE OF AND WE MONITOR VERY CLOSELY AT APS BECAUSE ELECTRIC VEHICLE LOAD IS IS A SOURCE OF NEW GROWTH FOR US.

AND WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE RAPID ADOPTION OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES INTO THE FUTURE AND IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL INCLUDE IN OUR PLANNING AND MAINTAINING THE RELIABILITY OF OUR SYSTEM GOING FORWARD.

SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE MAIN POINTS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE FOR THIS SLIDE AS FAR AS WHAT THAT LOAD LOOKS LIKE INTO THE FUTURE.

NOW, THE LOAD FORMS REALLY KIND OF THE FOUNDATION FOR THE WORK THAT MY TEAM DOES IN RESOURCE PLANNING, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH MAINTAINING RELIABLE ELECTRIC SERVICE AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S ELECTRICITY AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR, YOU KNOW, 24 HOURS A DAY.

AND SO WE ANALYZE MANY DIFFERENT PORTFOLIOS IN THE PURSUIT OF UNDERSTANDING HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT RELIABILITY IN THE FUTURE.

AND I'LL CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE SLIDE NOW, WHICH IS ACTUALLY FROM OUR MOST RECENT PUBLISHED INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN, WHICH WAS IN 2020.

AND THAT INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN SHOWS HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ONTO THE SYSTEM TO MEET OUR LOAD GROWTH INTO THE FUTURE. THE LOAD FIGURES FROM THAT TIME ARE A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN WHAT WE SEE TODAY.

HOWEVER, I THINK THE INFORMATION SHARED HERE IS STILL VERY DIRECTIONALLY ACCURATE INTO THE FUTURE.

SO IT SHOWS IF YOU SEE ON THE 2020 SIDE AND RIGHT NEXT TO 2020, YOU SEE THAT THERE'S ABOUT 30 GIGAWATT HOURS OF ELECTRICITY SALES INCLUDED IN THAT CASE KIND OF AS A BASE. AND BY 2035, WE ANTICIPATE THAT GROWING TO IN EXCESS OF 40,000 GIGAWATT HOURS.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT'S EVEN HIGHER IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THAT WERE ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE FOR WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING TODAY, HOWEVER, WE SEE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RENEWABLE ENERGY THAT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN OUR DIFFERENT RESOURCE PLANS.

YOU CAN SEE EACH OF THESE DIFFERENT PORTFOLIOS, THESE DIFFERENT PIE CHARTS HERE ARE A DIFFERENT SPEED FOR WHICH WE CAN ADOPT RENEWABLE ENERGY AND CLEAN ENERGY ONTO OUR SYSTEM.

WITH BRIDGE BEING A PORTFOLIO THAT RELIES ON SOME ADDITIONAL NATURAL GAS SHIFT TO BEING A PORTFOLIO THAT HAS NO ADDITIONAL NATURAL GAS INCLUDED IN IT AND THE ACCELERATED PORTFOLIO HAVING NO ADDITIONAL NATURAL GAS AND AN INCREASED PERCENTAGE OF RENEWABLES THAT ARE BEING ADDED TO THE SYSTEM, WHICH YOU CAN SEE KIND OF IN THAT 41% CHANGING FOR TO 46 AND THE SHIFT AND THEN UP TO 53% IN THE ACCELERATED PORTFOLIO.

AND SO YOU RAPIDLY SEE, YOU KNOW, THE OUR ENERGY SALES CHANGING AS FAR AS THE OVERALL BLEND OF WHERE YOUR ELECTRICITY IS COMING FROM.

AND WE COULD SEE DEMAND SIDE MANAGEMENT IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS AS A SOURCE OF ENERGY FOR US BOTH ON ENERGY EFFICIENCY AS WELL AS DEMAND SIDE PROGRAMS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, COOL REWARDS AND OTHER THERMOSTAT PROGRAMS THAT JUDSON IS GOING TO TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT IN HIS SLIDES.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF RESOURCE PLANNING AT APS AND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING INTO THE FUTURE.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE JUDSON THAT'S COMING UP NEXT TO SPEAK TO CUSTOMER TO GRID SOLUTIONS.

I'LL PAUSE HERE FOR A SECOND TO SEE IF WE WANTED TO ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS NOW OR WAIT UNTIL THE END OF JUDSON'S PRESENTATION.

COUNCIL DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANY.

SO YOU MAY PROCEED.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING? MY NAME IS JUDSON TILLINGHAST.

I MANAGE THE CUSTOMER TO GRID SOLUTIONS TEAM AT APS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHILE MIKE'S TEAM DOES A GREAT JOB OF SEEING WHAT OUR LOAD FORECAST IS AND FINDING SORT OF TRADITIONAL, YOU KNOW, SUPPLY SIDE RESOURCES TO REACH THAT CHALLENGE, MY TEAM IS MORE FOCUSED ON HOW WE CAN PARTNER WITH CUSTOMERS TO HELP ADDRESS THE SAME ISSUES.

YOU KNOW, WHAT TECHNOLOGIES ARE CUSTOMERS ADOPTING THAT USE ENERGY THAT CAN HELP REDUCE ENERGY THROUGH ENERGY EFFICIENCY OR SHIFT ENERGY AWAY FROM OUR PEAK TIME FRAME OR USE MORE RENEWABLE ENERGY.

SO WE FOCUS ON THOSE TECHNOLOGIES AND LOOK FOR THOSE SYMMETRIES.

AND NEXT SLIDE. I'D LIKE TO SHOW THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THE FOUNDATION OF ALL THE

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PROGRAMS THAT WE BUILD AND EVERYTHING APS DOES.

IT'S A FOCUS ON BEING CLEAN, AFFORDABLE, RELIABLE AND CUSTOMER CENTRIC.

AND YOU CAN REALLY ACCELERATE ACHIEVING ONE OF THOSE, BUT IT'S GOING TO IMPACT ALL THE OTHER ONES.

SO WE REALLY STAY FLEXIBLE AND TRY TO RECOGNIZE THE PROGRAMS WE BUILD AND HOW TO OPTIMIZE THE IMPACTS OF ALL THESE FOUR PILLARS . WE'VE HAD AS MIKE SHOWED, WE HAD A LOT OF LOAD GROWTH FROM VARIOUS SECTORS, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL LOAD GROWTH OF DATA CENTERS, NEW MANUFACTURING PLANTS.

SO WE REALLY NEED TO OPTIMIZE AND MAINTAIN THESE FOUR PILLARS.

NEXT SLIDE. SO ONE OF THE BIG PIECES HERE IS REALLY IT'S ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

THERE'S A LOT OF COMPANIES, CAR MANUFACTURERS THAT ARE MAKING COMMITMENTS SUCH AS FORD TO HAVE 50% OF THEIR CARS BE ELECTRIC BY 2030.

VW HAS ANNOUNCED THE SAME TARGET OF 50% OF THEIR CAR SALES BY 2030.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS FOR UTILITIES IS WE REALLY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW OUR CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO USE EVS.

WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO CHARGE? IS IT GOING TO BE AT HOME? IS IT GOING TO BE IN THE OFFICE? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEIR CHARGING BEHAVIORS? YOU KNOW, WHAT SORT OF RANGE DO THESE CARS NEED TO HAVE BEFORE CUSTOMERS FEEL COMFORTABLE AVOIDING THAT SORT OF RANGE ANXIETY THAT A LOT OF EV CUSTOMERS DO HAVE? AND WHAT IMPACT IS THAT GOING TO HAVE ON THE GRID FROM A DISTRIBUTION LEVEL, FROM A TRANSMISSION LEVEL AND ALSO A GENERATION LEVEL? AS WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY FOCUS ON RELIABILITY AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT CUSTOMERS WHO WANT TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION.

SO WE'RE BUILDING PROGRAMS RIGHT NOW OF HOW TO UNDERSTAND ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON OUR SYSTEM.

OUR FLAGSHIP PROGRAM IS CALLED TAKE CHARGE EZ.

I KNOW WE HAVE PROBABLY AT LEAST MAYBE A DOZEN OF THEM IN THE FLAGSTAFF AREA RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE PUTTING IN LEVEL TWO CHARGING STATIONS AT BUSINESSES, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, NONPROFITS AND MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES.

THIS REALLY PROVIDES MORE CUSTOMERS ACCESS TO EV CHARGING AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, GAS PRICES ARE RIGHT NOW BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S VARIOUS RATES APS HAS, BUT IT'S THE EQUIVALENT RIGHT NOW OF ROUGHLY 30 TO $0.90 PER GALLON.

LAST TIME I FILLED UP MY CAR, IT WAS CLOSE TO $6 A GALLON.

SO THERE'S A PRETTY BIG POTENTIAL SAVINGS IMPACT THERE.

THIS SLIDE'S ACTUALLY OUTDATED.

WE'VE GOT CLOSER TO 190 SITES NOW.

IT'S BEEN A VERY POPULAR PROGRAM, BUT IT'S REALLY GIVING US THAT DATA TO FIND OUT HOW WELL PEOPLE ARE CHARGING OUTSIDE OF OUR PEAK HOURS, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE CHARGING ON THE PEAK HOURS, HOW MANY DO USE IT AT HOME VERSUS USE THESE PUBLIC CHARGING STATIONS.

WE ALSO HAVE FIVE FAST CHARGING STATIONS LOCATED IN GLOBE, PAYSON, PRESCOTT, SEDONA AND SHILOH.

AND THESE ARE REALLY FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS THAT ARE TRAVELING LONGER DISTANCES WITH THEIR ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

WE'RE TRYING TO HELP BUILD OUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE SO YOU CAN COMMUTE ACROSS ARIZONA.

WE ALSO HAVE A SMART CHARGING PROGRAM.

THIS ONE'S REALLY JUST REALLY DATA FOCUSED WHERE WE CAN TRACK CHARGING BEHAVIORS OF CUSTOMERS.

AND IT REALLY GIVES US INSIGHT TO, ONCE AGAIN, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE CHARGING ON THOSE PEAK HOUR TIMEFRAME.

THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT DATA POINTS FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHEN TRYING TO MANAGE CONTINUED LOAD GROWTH IN OUR SERVICE TERRITORY.

NOT TO PLUG ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS, BUT WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE, PLEASE CHECK OUT CARS.APS.COM.

THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION ON THERE THAT GIVES COMPARISONS.

LETS YOU KNOW WHAT REBATES ARE AVAILABLE AT A STATE LEVEL, AT A FEDERAL LEVEL, WHAT THE TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP WOULD BE BETWEEN A TRADITIONAL CAR AND AN EV.

SO REALLY JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO OUR CUSTOMERS SO THEY CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THEM.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

MIKE MENTIONED SOME DEMAND RESPONSE TYPE PROGRAMS. THIS IS REALLY ONE OF OUR FLAGSHIP PROGRAMS CALLED COOL REWARDS.

UTILIZING SMART THERMOSTATS.

CUSTOMERS WHO ENROLL CAN ACTUALLY, IN SOME CASES RECEIVE A FREE, SMART THERMOSTAT, BUT AT MINIMUM, YOU KNOW, UP TO $115 REBATE.

WHAT THIS DOES IS UP TO 20 EVENTS PER YEAR THE CUSTOMERS WHO PARTICIPATE, LET'S JUST SAY ON A HOT SUMMER DAY IN PHOENIX, YOU GUYS DON'T EXPERIENCE QUITE THE SAME HEAT LEVELS WE DO.

BUT IT HAS AN ALGORITHM THAT RUNS AND IT ACTUALLY LOOKS HOW YOU INDEPENDENTLY USE ENERGY ON THAT HOT DAY.

SO IF YOU KEEP IT AT, LET'S SAY, 75 DEGREES, IT RECOGNIZES THAT AND ON THAT HOTTER DAY, IT'LL DO A PRE COOLING EVENT IN THE OFF PEAK TIMEFRAME TO HELP MANAGE COMFORT. AND THEN DURING THE CORE PART OF OUR PEAK, LET'S JUST CALL IT 6 TO 8:00 AT NIGHT, IT'LL GO UP 2 TO 3 DEGREES.

SO 2 TO 3 DEGREES HIGHER THAN YOU WOULD NORMALLY KEEP IT.

AND THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE MUCH, BUT WE'VE GOT OVER 70,000, THERMOSTATS INVOLVED IN THIS PROGRAM.

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AND, LAST YEAR WE HAD ALMOST 110 MEGA WATTS OF DEMAND RESPONSE FROM JUST THAT OFFERING.

SO THAT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF PULLING TWO AERO DERIVATIVE NATURAL GAS TURBINES OFFLINE FOR THAT LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME WHILE WE'RE RUNNING THAT EVENT.

SO 2 TO 3 DEGREES CAN CAN MAKE A REALLY BIG IMPACT TO HELP KEEP COSTS LOW AND TO HELP REDUCE CARBON INTO THE ENVIRONMENT.

SO REALLY RECOMMEND IF YOU DO HAVE AN AIR CONDITIONER, I KNOW SOME FOLKS DON'T OR LESS FOLKS DO UP IN FLAGSTAFF BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER DIFFERENCES.

PLEASE ENROLL IN THIS PROGRAM.

THERE'S REALLY NO BETTER WAY TO TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR ENERGY COSTS AND BE MORE SUSTAINABLE THAN THAN THIS DEVICE IN YOUR HOME.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I'D REALLY LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIPS WE DO.

YOU SEE FLAGSTAFF IS LISTED ON HERE.

YOU KNOW, MY TEAMS WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH NICOLE ON THE CLIMATE ACTION ADAPTION PLAN AND OTHER SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES.

AND WHAT THIS IS REALLY FOCUSED ON IS JUST IT'S OPENING LINES OF COMMUNICATION.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE EV EXPERTS ON MY TEAM DEMAND RESPONSE EXPERT, MICROGRID EXPERT SOLAR EXPERTS, BATTERY EXPERTS.

LET'S COMMUNICATE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND TO ACHIEVE THOSE ENERGY RELATED GOALS, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, REDUCING CARBON, WHETHER IT'S SAVING MONEY. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY.

IF WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE, WE CAN BUILD PROGRAMS AROUND THAT TO HELP ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

AND WE ACTUALLY DID SPECIFICALLY THAT IN THE GREEN POWER PARTNERS PROGRAM, WHICH FLAGSTAFF WAS THE VERY FIRST CUSTOMER TO ENROLL.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND I JUST WANT TO PUT UP THIS SLIDE THAT THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE MOVING REALLY FAST AND WE JUST WANT TO FIND THESE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE CUSTOMERS ARE USING THESE TECHNOLOGIES.

HOW CAN WE USE THEM TOGETHER TO HELP KEEP THE GRID MORE RELIABLE OR AFFORDABLE AND DECARBONIZE THE GRID AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE? AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I HAD TO DISCUSS TODAY.

PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, JUDSON.

WE DO HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

FIRST OFF, THIS WAS JUST KIND OF FAST, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO JUST STILL DRINKING FROM THE FIRE HOSE HERE.

WITH THE PROJECTED INCREASED POWER DEMANDS, IF FLAGSTAFF REACHES ITS GOAL BY NET ZERO CARBON EMISSIONS BY 2030, WHAT IS APS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE THAT DEMAND? LIKE WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE ARE YOU PUTTING IN PLACE? WE ALREADY SEE POWER OUTAGES NOW AND WE DO HAVE VERY HARSH WINTERS.

SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY AND HEALTH OF OUR ESPECIALLY OUR VULNERABLE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHEN WE ARE, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDST OF A VERY HARSH WINTER STORM.

SO HOW DO YOU HOW IS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT, THOSE DEMANDS? COUNCIL MEMBER I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THAT PARTICULAR SPACE.

I THINK WHAT MIKE'S MICHAEL'S REPORT REALLY POINTED TO WAS MAINTAINING RELIABILITY AT THE GRID LEVEL, SO MANAGING THE SORT OF PEAK GENERATION ACROSS THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. THERE'S ALSO DIFFERENT TEAMS THAT REALLY FOCUS ON THE RELIABILITY OF THE TRANSMISSION SYSTEM AND DISTRIBUTION SYSTEMS THAT'S TRANSFERRING POWER FROM THE GENERATORS ALL THE WAY TO YOUR HOMES AND YOUR COMMUNITIES.

SO OBVIOUSLY, WEATHER IMPACTS ARE DIFFERENT AROUND AROUND THE STATE.

SO, YOU KNOW, TREES FALLING ON LINES, CARS RUNNING INTO POWER POLES, ALL THOSE PLAY A BIG IMPACT IN THAT SPACE.

BUT JUST LIKE WE HAVE, MIKE, THAT PLANS FROM THE RESOURCE PLANNING PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT RESOURCES WE NEED TO MEET PEAK LOAD.

WE HAVE OTHER TEAMS THAT FOCUS ON MAKING SURE THE TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IS BUILT OUT TO MAINTAIN RELIABILITY TO KEEP EVERYONE'S POWER ON.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WILL LIKE MICHAEL OR WHOEVER TO HAVE A FOLLOW UP EMAIL JUST TO GIVE US SOME ASSURANCE ON WHAT THOSE RELIABILITY PLANS ARE.

ALSO, I THINK IN A CONVERSATION I MAY HAVE HAD WITH SOME OF THE OTHER REPRESENTATIVES, ONE OF THE STRATEGIES WAS TO ENCOURAGE REDUCED DEMAND THROUGH FEE INCREASES DURING PEAK TIMES.

IS THAT CORRECT? OK COUNCIL MEMBER I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.

WE DO HAVE PLENTY OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS THAT ARE LOOKING TO REDUCE ENERGY CONSUMPTION IN GENERAL THROUGH ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES, INCLUDING LIGHT BULBS. YOU KNOW, THE RATE STRUCTURES OF TIME OF USE RATES ARE DEVELOPED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE MORE

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ENERGY OUTSIDE THOSE DEMAND HOURS BY DOING THAT REDUCES THE OVERALL PEAK OF THE SYSTEM AND HELPS KEEPS COSTS LOW FOR EVERYBODY.

I'M NOT SURE IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, BUT.

UM, KIND OF.

I HAVE OTHERS.

UM, SO IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING OR ALARMING TO ME TO HEAR, UM, THESE SMART THERMOSTATS.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS APS COULD AUTOMATICALLY, UM, REMOTELY ADJUST OUR THERMOSTATS TO REDUCE OUR AC OR OUR HEAT.

UM, WITHOUT US DOING ANYTHING.

IS THAT CORRECT? BUT COUNCIL MEMBER, I'LL CLARIFY ON THAT PIECE.

IT'S AN OPT IN PROGRAM THAT CUSTOMERS CAN ENROLL IN.

AND ONE OF THE KEY FEATURES THAT I DID FORGET TO MENTION AND I KNOW I MENTIONED BEING CUSTOMER CENTRIC IS CUSTOMERS ARE ABLE TO OPT OUT OF ALL THE EVENTS.

SO IF IT'S IF IT RUNS AN EVENT, THE INTENT IS FOR IT TO RUN, RUN AN EVENT AND YOU DON'T EVEN NOTICE BECAUSE IT'S 2 TO 3 DEGREES.

BUT IF YOU DO NOTICE, IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE AT HOME AND IT'S TOO HOT, YOU CAN JUST WALK UP TO THE THERMOSTAT AND OPT OUT OF THAT EVENT.

THAT WAS A CORE TENET OF THAT PROGRAM WAS TO MAINTAIN CUSTOMER COMFORT.

AND IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOUR.

YEAH, IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOUR PARTICIPATION.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOUR FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR PARTICIPATING.

UM, SO IT'S A VERY CUSTOMER CENTRIC PROGRAM.

OKAY. UM.

AND THEN THIS X ELF LOW AND HIGH.

I KNOW PHOENIX IS BUILDING A HUGE MICROCHIP FACILITY WHICH WILL TAKE A LOT OF POWER, IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

UM. AGAIN.

YOU KNOW, YOU STARTED THIS SLIDESHOW PRESENTATION WITH THE CRITICAL NEED TO HAVE DIVERSITY IN OUR POWER SYSTEM.

SO I THINK IN SLIDE THREE, MICHAEL WAS TALKING ABOUT JUST THE DIFFERENT MAKEUP OF THAT MIX OF RESOURCES. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO IT.

UM, AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM.

THIS. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SHIFT TO DIFFERENT.

SOURCES, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR.

MAYBE I JUST WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION.

I'M ON VACATION.

MINDSET MODE. SORRY.

BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING TO BUILD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR MORE WIND? MORE SOLAR? WHICH UP HERE IN FLAGSTAFF WE HAVE SHORTER YOU KNOW, WE HAVE STORMS AND SO WE DON'T HAVE THE SUNLIGHT AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WIND IS NOT AS RELIABLE AND STUFF. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO BUILD THOSE RELIABLE ALTERNATIVE SOURCES? TO ENSURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE PROTECTED AND SAFE.

ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, THE SUMMERS AREN'T LIKE PHOENIX AND WE DON'T HAVE THE SUN THAT PHOENIX HAS, BUT WE DO HAVE VERY HARSH WINTERS.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD, WHAT'S THE PLAN TO BUILD THOSE RELIABLE ALTERNATIVE SOURCES FOR ALTERNATIVE AND CLEAN ENERGY? YEAH, APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND FORTUNATELY FOR ELECTRICITY TOO, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRANSPORT IT.

AND WE HAVE A FAIRLY INTERCONNECTED GRID HERE IN ARIZONA, BOTH THAT OPERATES AND THAT SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS OPERATE AS WELL.

SO THAT MEANS THAT THE SOURCES OF ENERGY THAT WE, YOU KNOW, CONTRACT WITH OR INSTALL THAT ARE IN THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE STATE CAN STILL BENEFIT THE CITIZENS OF FLAGSTAFF DURING TIMES WHEN YOU MAY BE HAVING WEATHER IN YOUR AREA, THAT EXCLUDES THE PRODUCTION OF SOLAR ENERGY.

AND SO WHEN IT'S SUNNY IN GILA BEND, WHICH IT IS LIKE 90% OR MORE OF THE YEAR WHERE WE'RE PRODUCING THAT SOLAR POWER DOWN THERE AND ABLE TO TRANSPORT IT TO, YOU KNOW, FLAGSTAFF AND TO THE REST OF OUR CUSTOMER BASE AS WELL.

WIND RESOURCES ALSO UTILIZE OUR TRANSMISSION SYSTEM.

AS YOU CAN SEE, SEVERAL OF OUR WIND FACILITIES ARE IN NEW MEXICO AND WE ARE ABLE TO TRANSPORT THAT POWER THROUGHOUT ARIZONA UTILIZING OUR EXISTING TRANSMIT SYSTEM AND OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

AND SO I GUESS AN EXTENSION OF YOUR QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE DOING TO INVEST IN THAT TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM INTO THE FUTURE? AND THERE'S QUITE A FEW PROJECTS THAT HAS PLANNED AS PART OF OUR TEN YEAR TRANSMISSION PLAN THAT'S FILED WITH THE ARIZONA CORPORATION COMMISSION THAT SHOWS WHAT OUR INVESTMENT IS GOING TO BE INTO THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ONLINE? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, GREAT.

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AND TWO LAST QUESTIONS, KIND OF STATEMENTS.

UM, JUST THIS LAST WINTER, WE HAD MANY STORMS. ONE IN PARTICULAR CAUSED A LOT OF WIND.

AND I THINK 6600 HOMES WERE WITHOUT POWER FOR UP TO 36, MAYBE LONGER HOURS.

SO I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT FOR HOMES THAT A LOT OF OUR NEW HOMES RIGHT NOW ARE BEING BUILT ALL ELECTRIC.

UM. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN THE POWER IF THE ONLY SOURCE IS ELECTRIC, WHETHER IT'S RENEWABLE OR CLEAN ENERGY AND STUFF. MY CONCERN IS JUST THE VULNERABILITY OF OUR COMMUNITY TO BE WITHOUT ANY HEATING SOURCE IF THEY'RE ONLY DEPENDING ON ONE RESOURCE TO PROTECT THEIR HOUSEHOLD.

CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT? YEAH, THINK KIND OF LIKE WHAT JUDSON SAID EARLIER.

THERE'S DIFFERENT SOURCES ON OUR SYSTEM THAT COULD BE THE CAUSE OF AN OUTAGE.

RIGHT. AND SO ON OUR TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, YOU HAVE STORM RELATED OUTAGES AND YOU HAVE ANIMALS THAT CAN GET INTO EQUIPMENT AND CAUSE OUTAGES, ETCETERA.

BOTH JUDSON AND I FOCUS MORE ON THE RESOURCE SIDE OF THINGS, WHICH IS DO WE HAVE SUFFICIENT GENERATION AND CUSTOMER SITED RESOURCES TO TO MEET OUR NEED? AND SO OUR STUDY WORK KIND OF RELIES ON THAT PRIMARILY.

AND SO I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THE TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION RELIABILITY PIECE TO IT.

AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON WITH THE EXPERTS IN OUR COMPANY.

RIGHT. BECAUSE MY CONCERN AND I'VE EXPRESSED IT BEFORE IS IF THERE IS AN OUTAGE AND WE ARE IN A HOUSE OR AN APARTMENT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A BACKUP GAS FIREPLACE OR WOOD FIREPLACE OR WOOD BURNING STOVE, AND THOSE THINGS DO OCCUR.

AND OUR WEATHER SYSTEM UP IN FLAGSTAFF, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN LASTLY, EXCUSE ME JUST A MOMENT, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN, JANET? WELL, I WANTED TO. MAYOR COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS JANET DEAN HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.

I WANTED TO SEE IF JUDSON AND MICHAEL'S COMMENTS GOT TO YOUR QUESTION, BECAUSE THERE ARE WE WILL HAVE OUTAGES ON OUR SYSTEM. WE DO NOT LIKE TO HAVE THOSE, BUT THEY HAPPEN.

YOU KNOW, MOTHER NATURE PLAYS A HAND, VEHICLES PLAY A HAND, ANIMALS PLAY A HAND IN THAT.

OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS TO BE AS RELIABLE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN TO GET OUR CUSTOMERS RESTORED AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

IN A COMMUNITY LIKE FLAGSTAFF, WE DO HAVE REDUNDANCY.

WE HAVE LOOPS WITHIN OUR SYSTEM SO WE CAN GET MANY OF OUR CUSTOMERS BACK ON QUICKLY, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.

IN RELATION TO THE OUTAGE, WE DID HAVE A VERY TOUGH WINTER AND THERE WERE COMMUNITIES OUTSIDE OF FLAGSTAFF THAT WERE IMPACTED. I'M NOT AWARE THAT WE HAD A 36 HOUR OUTAGE ANYWHERE.

WE DID APPROACH 24 HOURS DOWN IN MUNDS PARK, BUT WE WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNITY IN THAT SITUATION.

AS FAR AS THEIR SOURCES OF HEAT, THAT'S OUR CUSTOMERS CHOICE ON WHAT THEY CHOOSE.

AND WE SUPPORT OUR CUSTOMERS IN ANY OF THEIR ENERGY NEEDS AND CHOICES.

DID THAT GET A LITTLE BIT MORE TO WHAT YOU WERE ASKING COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU, JANET. I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT.

I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT WAS DOWN IN PARK.

AND OF COURSE, IT ALWAYS SEEMS LONGER WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

BUT THEY WERE SLEEPING IN THEIR CAR WITH THE HEAT FOR 36 HOURS.

THEY BELIEVED.

BUT I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WIND.

WE HAVE ANIMALS. WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CARS RUNNING INTO POWER LINES, THINGS THAT YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY AVOID TOTALLY.

AND I GET THAT.

AND SO THAT WAS WHERE MY CONCERN WAS, THAT SOME HOMES, IF THEY TURN TOTALLY RELIABLE ON SOMETHING THAT BECAUSE OF OUR ENVIRONMENT UP IN FLAGSTAFF, WE JUST CANNOT PERMIT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.

MY LAST QUESTION WAS AND I JUST MISSED IT.

I WAS WRITING NOTES.

MICHAEL WAS TALKING ABOUT RENEWABLE ENERGY VERSUS CLEAN ENERGY, AND I GOT IT DOWN TO 45% RENEWABLE ENERGY BY X DATE.

I MISSED THAT AND THEN I DIDN'T GET THE PERCENTAGE OF CLEAN ENERGY.

AND I'M LEARNING THAT CLEAN ENERGY.

UM, I KNOW THE CITY HAS COMMITTED TO CLEAN ENERGY, WHICH COMES WITH A PRETTY HEFTY PRICE TAG, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF BUILDINGS AND SO MAYBE A SCALE ON A ON A INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLD ISN'T AS MUCH.

BUT MICHAEL, CAN YOU JUST REPEAT WHAT THE COMMITMENT WAS FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY AND CLEAN ENERGY AND BY WHAT DATES?

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YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 45% RENEWABLE BY 2030 AND 65% CLEAN BY 2030.

AND SO 65 CLEAN BY.

20. I'M SORRY.

20. 30. 30.

SO AS I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF, I JUST READ AN ARTICLE THAT TUCSON CITIZENS TURNED DOWN CLEAN ENERGY CONVERSION DUE TO THE COST.

SO IF YOUR COMMITMENT IS TO CONVERT 65% OF YOUR ENERGY TO CLEAN ENERGY, THAT WOULD THEN, I'M ASSUMING, MEAN AN INCREASE IN THE RATES THAT WE PAY FOR OUR ELECTRICITY.

IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, WHAT WE SEE IN OUR RFPS, CERTAINLY IN THE MOST RECENT RFP THAT WE'VE DONE, WHICH IS LAST YEAR, IS THAT FREQUENTLY THE BIDS THAT COME IN FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY ACTUALLY ARE SOME OF THE MOST ECONOMIC BIDS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.

AND SO THAT'S DRIVING A LOT OF OUR INVESTMENT BOTH INTO SOLAR, WIND AND ENERGY STORAGE TECHNOLOGIES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO WATCHING THAT BECAUSE, AGAIN, COST OF LIVING IS REALLY HIGH UP HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT MOVING TOWARDS THIS, WHICH MOST OF US ALL WANT TO DO IS IS FIND CLEAN ENERGY TO FUEL OUR ENERGY NEEDS.

BUT AT WHAT COST THEN GETS TO BE A LITTLE CONCERNING.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE UPDATES ON THAT AND I WILL YIELD BACK TO THE DAIS.

MAYOR DAGGETT, JANET DUNNIGAN, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS I JUST WANT TO CIRCLE BACK TO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU ASKED WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT HIGHER RATES.

I WANT AND JUDSON TOUCHED ON THIS BRIEFLY, BUT WE BEING CUSTOMER CENTRIC, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT RATE PLANS FOR OUR CUSTOMERS THAT THEY CAN CHOOSE FROM BASED ON HOW THEY LIKE TO USE ENERGY, HOW INVOLVED THEY WANT TO BE IN THEIR ENERGY MANAGEMENT.

AND SOME OF THOSE ARE BUILT WITH PRICE POINTS IN THEM DURING CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY.

SO THE ENERGY IS MORE EXPENSIVE DURING OUR PEAK LOAD AND ON OUR DEMAND PLANS OR TIME OF USE PLANS.

AND THAT'S TO GIVE OUR CUSTOMERS A PRICE POINT, A PRICE SIGNAL THAT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE TIME TO USE ENERGY.

THAT MIGHT BE WHEN YOU WANT TO REDUCE YOUR ENERGY USAGE.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S FOR THE CUSTOMER TO CHOOSE HOW THEY WANT TO MANAGE THEIR ENERGY CONSUMPTION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO TO EXPAND ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JANET.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY.

YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS WAS GOING, BUT I THINK SHE WAS ADDRESSING HER QUESTION TO THE WRONG PERSON.

AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION.

SO AS WE MOVE TOWARD ALL ELECTRIC AND A APARTMENT BUILDING.

IS ALL ELECTRIC.

WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE MAYBE FOR TRYING TO HELP THOSE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY COULD DO IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY OR AN OUTAGE LIKE THAT, WHAT OTHER RESOURCES MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO THEM.

SO I THINK YOU MIGHT SHE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ASKING THE QUESTION TO THE WRONG ONE.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SPEAK FOR YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

MATTHEWS BUT I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHERE SHE'S GOING WITH THAT.

SO IF I'M IN AN ALL ELECTRIC APARTMENT AND THIS MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT TIME TO ASK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING WE MAY BE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT IF I'M IN AN ALL ELECTRIC APARTMENT BECAUSE I LIVED IN ONE BACK IN THE 70S OR 80S, AND IF THE ELECTRICITY GOES OUT, WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY WOULD IT BE OR WHO WOULD YOU ENCOURAGE TO HELP RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO IN THAT? CASE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY. YEAH.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

JENNY NEIMAN FROM YOUR SUSTAINABILITY TEAM AND I CAME UP TOGETHER BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY A PARTNERSHIP.

APS WORKS WITH OUR CUSTOMERS TO TRY TO PREPARE THEM, ESPECIALLY IF WE KNOW THERE'S A LARGE WINTER STORM OR MONSOON PREDICTED.

WE TRY TO WORK WITH OUR CUSTOMERS TO HELP THEM BE PREPARED FOR AN OUTAGE.

BUT IF WE SEE A SITUATION LIKE WE EXPERIENCED IN MONTHS PARK THIS YEAR, WE ARE WORKING WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

WE WORKED WITH COCONINO COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DURING THE MONTHS PARK WINTER STORMS AND MADE SURE THAT THERE WAS A WARMING SHELTER SET UP SO THAT THERE WAS SOME PLACE FOR CUSTOMERS TO GO TO GET WARM.

WE WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY'S NEWLY STOOD UP EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM TO IN THOSE SITUATIONS, IF WE FELT CUSTOMERS WERE GOING TO BE OUT OF

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POWER FOR A VERY EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME AND IT WOULD BE AN UNSAFE SITUATION.

WE'VE DONE THAT ACTUALLY WITH COCONINO COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SETTING SOMETHING UP OUT AT THE FLAGSTAFF MALL TWO WINTERS AGO.

SO I THINK SOME OF IT IS ON APS AND I THINK SOME OF IT WOULD BE ON CITY DEPARTMENTS AND WE WOULD WORK TOGETHER IN PARTNERSHIP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, JANET, AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

ONE IMPORTANT POINT, AND YOU'LL SEE THE CITY KIND OF TAKE THE ELECTRIFICATION QUESTIONS HERE.

IT ACTUALLY WOULD BE JUST THE SAME AS IT IS TODAY, BECAUSE WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW ABOUT OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT IS THAT OUR HEATING AND OUR WATER HEATING FOR THE MOST PART, UNLESS YOU'RE ON A WOOD STOVE AND WE LOVE WOOD STOVES, WE WANT EVERYONE TO KEEP THEIR WOOD STOVES.

UNLESS YOU'RE ON THAT WOOD STOVE, YOU ARE USING WHAT WE CALL A DUAL FUEL SYSTEM.

SO YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO FUEL TWO SOURCES OF ENERGY TO HEAT YOUR HOME.

YOU NEED GAS AND YOU NEED ELECTRICITY.

RIGHT. AND SO IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT IS TODAY IN MY HOUSE WITH MY GAS FURNACE.

IF THE ELECTRICITY GOES DOWN, I CANNOT RUN THAT GAS FURNACE.

RIGHT. AND SO THOSE ARE WHAT WE CALL DUAL FUEL SETUPS.

AND SO IT WOULD BE THE EXACT SAME SORT OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, THE EXACT SAME SETUP IF AN APARTMENT, YOU KNOW, EXCUSE ME, A MULTI FAMILY HOME LOST POWER EXACTLY THE SAME BECAUSE OUR HEATING SYSTEMS RELY ON ELECTRICITY TODAY.

UNLESS LET'S SAY YOU'RE HEATING YOUR HOME WITH WHAT.

RIGHT. AND SO WITH WOOD FUEL.

SO, YEAH, VERY MUCH THE SAME TODAY BECAUSE AGAIN, MOST OF OUR HOMES ARE DUAL FUEL.

SO YOU NEED BOTH OF THOSE SYSTEMS TO BE WORKING, WHICH IS WHY ELECTRIC HOMES ACTUALLY CAN BE MORE RESILIENT BECAUSE YOU ONLY NEED ONE FUEL SOURCE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S NOT ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

IN MY HOUSE, I HAVE A HEATER STOVE THAT WILL RUN ON GAS AND IT NEEDS NO ELECTRICITY.

AND JUST BY CHANCE, WE MOVED INTO THE HOUSE IN THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY, LIKE 18 YEARS AGO, AND OUR CENTRAL HEATER DID NOT WORK.

BUT MY HEATER STOVE, WHICH IS IN THE KITCHEN AREA, I TURNED IT ON AND NOW IT HAS A FAN ON IT AND THE FAN DIDN'T WORK, BUT IT'S STILL HEATED THE HOUSE UP TO THE TEMPERATURE.

WE WANTED TO KEEP IT.

BUT MY REAL QUESTION IS.

WE USE THESE WORDS RENEWABLE RESOURCES AND CLEAN RESOURCES.

SO COULD SOMEONE EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE AND THE OVERLAP BETWEEN THOSE TWO TERMS? SURE. I'LL TAKE THAT. THAT QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER ALL RENEWABLE RESOURCES ARE DEEMED CLEAN AND FOR THE MOST PART, YOUR CLEAN RESOURCES DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF CARBON EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

AND SO YOU HAVE NUCLEAR AS A PART OF THAT.

YOU'VE GOT YOUR WIND, SOLAR, BIOMASS IS CONSIDERED A CLEAN RESOURCE AS WELL DUE TO THE SOURCING OF THE FUEL.

THERE'S GEOTHERMAL AND THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER TECHNOLOGIES THAT THINK THAT STILL FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY AS WELL.

YOUR RENEWABLES TYPICALLY ARE YOUR WIND AND SOLAR RESOURCES PRIMARILY.

ARE THERE ANY ENERGY RESOURCES THAT ARE NOT BOTH RENEWABLE AND CLEAN? UM. NUCLEAR IS CLEAN, BUT NOT RENEWABLE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

OKAY. I THINK YOU CAN CONTINUE ON WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT.

THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS.

OKAY. TOM PIERSON.

THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

TWO THINGS TO POINT OUT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

ALL ELECTRIC APARTMENT THAT SHE SAID SHE LIVED IN.

REMEMBER, THAT IS THE GOAL OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

ALL ELECTRIC HOMES, BUSINESSES, BUILDINGS.

I IMPLORE YOU TO CHANGE THAT GOAL.

TO NOT INCLUDE THAT.

THE NEXT THING, THE PIE CHARTS THAT WE SAW ON THERE, EVERY ONE OF THOSE HAD ENERGY DIVERSITY IN THERE.

THE TITLE WAS ENERGY DIVERSITY IS IMPORTANT.

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IF IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE GRID, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR HOMES, JUST AS COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY SAID.

I HAD THE NATURAL GAS STOVE AND IT WAS ESSENTIAL.

MY WIFE LIVED IN GUAM DURING SUPER TYPHOON WHEN THE POWER WAS OUT FOR MONTHS.

WE HAVE TWO FURNACES, TWO GAS STOVES AND A WOOD BURNING FIREPLACE.

SHE'S NOT GOING TO LET US GO COLD IN THE WINTER.

WE NEED TO GIVE THE PEOPLE OF FLAGSTAFF THAT SAME RIGHT.

PLEASE CHANGE THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

TAKE OUT THE GOAL OF 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY.

IT'S NOT A REALISTIC.

IT'S. WELL, IT MIGHT BE REALISTIC, BUT IT'S NOT A VIABLE THING FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE.

ALLOW ENERGY DIVERSITY TO BE IN OUR HOMES AS WELL AS POWERING OUR GRID.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I WAS GOING TO ASK SUSTAINABILITY TO COME UP AND COMMENT.

LAURA KESSLER.

HI. BOY, I REALLY DON'T LIKE TALKING, BUT I.

THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO ME.

I HAVE TO COME UP HERE AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR WHAT YOU DO.

I'M SINCE I'VE GOTTEN INVOLVED IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS LISTENING TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS HERE AND ONLINE, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU GUYS PUT IN I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT ANYWAY.

WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO ME IS AND I'VE BEEN SCRIBBLING NOTES HERE LIKE MAD, SO IT'S A LITTLE DISORIENTED HERE, MAYBE, BUT I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT APS ACKNOWLEDGED THE IMPORTANCE OF ENERGY DIVERSITY BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE HYPER FOCUS ON CARBON NEUTRALITY RIGHT NOW.

AND AS TOM MENTIONED, I DID LIVE IN AN ALL ELECTRIC SOCIETY FOR SIX YEARS.

I WAS ON THE ISLAND OF SAIPAN AND GUAM AND THEY WERE TROPICAL ISLANDS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FREEZING TO DEATH.

WE JUST GOT REALLY HOT.

BUT OUR REFRIGERATION WENT OUT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.

GROCERY STORES, IT WE WERE EXTREMELY VULNERABLE DURING THOSE TIMES.

AND I KNOW WE'RE IN A MUCH MORE MODERN SOCIETY.

GUAM AND SAIPAN ARE I WOULDN'T SAY THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES, BUT THEY'RE NOT TO THE LEVEL THAT WE ARE HERE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT BECAUSE WE HAD SOME VULNERABILITY IN DANGEROUS TIMES, THESE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WE NEEDED BEING AN ALL ELECTRIC DEPENDENT SOCIETY.

WE NEEDED WE COULDN'T HAVE SURVIVED WITHOUT BACKUP GENERATORS, HUGE BACKUP GENERATORS.

THEY WERE BACKUP GENERATORS THAT COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IF YOU NEEDED A FEW OF THEM.

THAT WAS BACK THEN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY COST NOW.

GROCERY STORES NEEDED THEM.

THE AIRPORT NEEDED THEM, THE HOSPITALS NEEDED THEM.

THE CLINICS, THE CITY BUILDINGS, THE SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT, THE BANKS, THE BUSSES, SHIPPING TRANSPORTATION, THE SCHOOLS.

AND THAT'S JUST A HANDFUL THAT I CAN THINK OF.

THEY NEEDED. AND THE RESTAURANTS, MCDONALD'S, THEY ALL HAD TO BUILD LITTLE HOUSES TO BE WEATHER, TO BE WEATHER SAFE IN WINTER, IN BAD WEATHER CONDITIONS.

AND WE I WOULD THINK WE WOULD NEED THAT HERE.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE REALLY THINKING ABOUT.

WHEN WE GO TO AN ALL ELECTRIC SOCIETY, WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED WITH DIVERSITY OF ENERGY.

AND I'M AFRAID OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN THE CITY ARE BEING ECLIPSED BY CARBON NEUTRALITY RIGHT NOW, SUCH AS THE STORM DRAINS.

YOU KNOW, I'M A FLOOD IMPACTED RESIDENT.

WE'RE STILL WAITING TEN YEARS LATER FOR THOSE APPROVED BUT UNFUNDED STORM DRAINS, IT WOULD HELP US SO MUCH.

AND THANK YOU. I HEARD THAT THE LAST MEETING YOU MENTIONED, AN $8.1 MILLION WE GOT FOR THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BUT THEN WE GOT HIT WITH A HIGH WATER BILL.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS I WAS UNCLEAR THE LAST TIME I SPOKE.

I THINK MR. ASLIN MENTIONED THAT IT WAS AN UNCLEAR THING THAT I HAD SAID, BUT I REALLY DIDN'T WANT HIGHER WATER BILLS.

I WISH WE COULD TAKE THAT FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT FOR OTHER VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, MICHELLE OR JENNY? OR DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THE ENERGY DIVERSITY? I KNOW IT'S THIS HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC SINCE THE BEGINNING OF DRAFTING THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

ABSOLUTELY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR.

AND I'M JUST PULLING UP THE ACTUAL GOALS FROM THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, AND I AM AGAIN HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS.

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AND SO OUR PRIORITY TWO IS TO CLEAN OUR ENERGY SOURCES, WHICH IS BROKEN OUT INTO ELECTRIC MOBILITY, CLEAN ELECTRICITY AND BUILDING FUEL SWITCHING.

AND NOT TO SOUND BORING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE A FEW OF THE GOALS THAT ARE STATED IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AS IT WAS UPDATED, ADOPTED, AND THEN OF COURSE UPDATED TO INCORPORATE THE REGIONAL PLAN AMENDMENTS AND SO FORTH.

AND SO LET ME JUST SCROLL ON DOWN.

I LOST MY PAGE HERE WHILE I STOOD UP, SO I APOLOGIZE.

SO AGAIN, THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IS LENGTHY AND THERE IS A LOT OF FOCUS IN THE PLAN AND IT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND THAT. THERE'S A LOT THAT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE.

SO WE ARE FOCUSING OUR GOAL ON OBTAINING AS MUCH OF OUR ELECTRICITY AS POSSIBLE FROM SOURCES THAT DO NOT PRODUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.

AND SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, OUR APPROACH IN GETTING THERE, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH APS AS OUR SERVING UTILITY, BUT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED TARGET GOALS, THE FIRST BEING THAT 100% OF OUR MUNICIPAL.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CLEAR.

THE MUNICIPAL ORGANIZATIONS ELECTRICITY WILL BE FROM RENEWABLE ENERGY BY 2025.

WELL, WE'VE ALREADY ACHIEVED THAT GOAL BY WORKING THROUGH APS, GREEN POWER PARTNERS PROGRAM, AND THEN 68% OF THE COMMUNITY ELECTRICITY USE.

WILL BE ZERO CARBON ENERGY BY 2030.

SO AGAIN, 68%.

NOWHERE IN THE PLAN HAVE WE SAID THAT EVERY RESIDENT IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS TO BE NET ZERO OR CARBON FREE ENERGY.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT IS NOT A REALISTIC GOAL OR SOMETHING TO IMPLEMENT IN TERMS OF EQUITY ON THIS COMMUNITY.

SO THE FIRST STRATEGY THAT WE HAVE NOTED IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IS TO PRODUCE 100% RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY TO COVER ALL CITY MUNICIPAL NEEDS.

AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE ALREADY REACHED THAT GOAL.

THE SECOND IS TO INCREASE RENEWABLE ENERGY INSTALLATIONS AND USAGE IN NEW BUILDINGS.

SO THIS INCORPORATES IMPLEMENTING MORE AGGRESSIVE BUILDING CODES AND REQUIRING NET ZERO ENERGY BUILDINGS BY THE YEAR 2030.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, THOUGH, THAT WE DEFINE WHAT A NET ZERO ENERGY BUILDING IS A NET ZERO ENERGY BUILDING COMBINES ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND RENEWABLE ENERGY.

TO USE NET ZERO.

THEY USE A LOW AMOUNT OF ENERGY DUE TO BEING AIRTIGHT, WELL INSULATED AND ENERGY EFFICIENT.

THEY TYPICALLY INCORPORATE NEW, NEW, EXCUSE ME, INCORPORATE RENEWABLE ENERGY GENERATION ON SITE LIKE SOLAR PANELS.

DUE TO THIS LOW ENERGY USE PAIRED WITH THE ENERGY PRODUCTION, THESE BUILDINGS PRODUCE AS MUCH ENERGY AS THEY CONSUME.

SO THAT'S THE CONCEPT OF NET ZERO IS THEY ARE BALANCED OUT WITH EFFICIENCY AND WHAT CAN'T BE ACHIEVED IN EFFICIENCY IS THEN OFFSET IN RENEWABLE ENERGY.

AND THEN THE THIRD GOAL IS TO SUPPORT SOLAR INSTALLATIONS ON EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

THE COUNCIL MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH OUR SOLAR UNITED NEIGHBORS PROGRAM THAT WE'VE HAD TWO SUCCESSFUL YEARS INCORPORATING.

WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THE MARKET IS DICTATING A LOT OF THIS AND THAT WE HAVE NO INFLUENCE ON THIS SPACE.

I BELIEVE IT WAS JUDSON THAT NOTED THAT THE SOLICITATIONS OR THE BIDS FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY THAT APS HAVE BEEN RECEIVING ARE SOME OF THE CHEAPEST OR COST, MOST COST EFFICIENT SOURCE OF ENERGY.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO ANY FURTHER THAN THAT? YES. OKAY. GREAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT BELABORING THE POINT.

AND LET ME JUST SCROLL ON DOWN, BECAUSE WE DO TALK A LOT ABOUT BUILDING FUEL SWITCHING.

AND THIS IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON SHIFTING OUR BUILDING FUEL SOURCES FROM FOSSIL FUELS TO RENEWABLE SOURCES AND ELECTRICITY FOR APPLICATIONS, INCLUDING SPACE AND WATER HEATING, COOKING AND PERHAPS EVEN INDUSTRIAL PROCESSES.

SO WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SUPERIOR EFFICIENCY OF ELECTRIC APPLIANCES AS WELL AS THE RAPIDLY DECREASING EMISSIONS ON THE ELECTRIC GRID.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR US? SO AS WE STAYED IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, WE HAVE THE HOW WE GET THERE IDEAS AND CONCEPTS.

AND THE FIRST ONE AND AGAIN, I'M SCROLLING.

BEAR WITH ME FOR A SECOND.

IS WE WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT REDUCTION IN THE NATIONAL NATURAL GAS USAGE BY SECTOR IN THE RESIDENTIAL SECTOR.

THAT'S A 62% REDUCTION.

I WANT TO JUST QUALIFY THAT.

WE ARE NOT SAYING 100% AND THE ELIMINATION OF NATURAL GAS.

WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS REDUCE NATURAL GAS UP TO 62% OR 62% AND UP IF WE CAN.

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SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, THAT 12,500 RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WILL HAVE CONDUCTED A DEEP ENERGY EFFICIENCY RETROFIT, INCLUDING THE ELECTRIFICATION OF AT LEAST ONE MAJOR APPLIANCE.

25% OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WILL HAVE CONDUCTED A DEEP ENERGY EFFICIENCY RETROFIT, INCLUDING THE ELECTRIFICATION OF AT LEAST ONE MAJOR APPLIANCE.

WE ARE NOT STATING THAT ALL HOMES HAVE TO BE FULLY ELECTRIC.

WE ARE NOT STATING THAT PEOPLE NEED TO RUN OUT AND REPLACE A NATURAL GAS STOVE TODAY WITH AN ELECTRIC STOVE.

BUT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUALS WHEN THEIR APPLIANCES ARE AT THEIR END OF LIFE TO CONSIDER AN ELECTRIC APPLIANCE AND THEREFORE INCENTIVIZE IT.

THAT WILL ALSO MATCH WITH FEDERAL TAX CREDITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, PAYING UP TO 30% ON A NUMBER OF MAJOR APPLIANCES.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS.

AND I'M HAPPY TO AGAIN SIT DOWN WITH ANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND WALK THROUGH THIS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TO CLEAR ANY MISINFORMATION BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH AND THE HEFTINESS OF THE ACTUAL 160 PAGE PLAN.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR WELL, NICOLE, UP THERE, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HER PRESENCE.

NICOLE, VERY BRIEFLY, PLEASE.

AND JUST OFF THE CUFF, COULD YOU HELP US CONTEXTUALLY UNDERSTAND? WHERE ALL THIS CAME FROM.

I'M KIND OF LEADING YOU HERE, BUT THAT'S FINE, BECAUSE WHAT I WANT TO REMIND THE PUBLIC OF IS HOW MANY DIFFERENT COUNCILS HAVE WORKED ON THESE ISSUES. THESE DOCUMENTS HAVE COME OUT OF A PROCESS THAT INVOLVES MULTIPLE COUNCILS OVER MULTIPLE YEARS, MULTIPLE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVES.

THE $4 MILLION WE JUST SPENT ON WEATHERIZATION AND UPGRADES TO ALL CITY INFRASTRUCTURE DID NOT JUST MAGICALLY APPEAR OVERNIGHT AS SOMETHING WE DECIDED TO DO IN SHORT ORDER.

COULD YOU JUST CONTEXTUALLY HELP US UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH ALL OF THIS? BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE REMINDED OF THE JOURNEY THAT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS BEEN ON AND THE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS AND COMMUNITY DIALOGS THAT HAVE PRECEDED WHERE WE'RE AT THIS POINT.

AND MAYBE THROW IN SOME APPS NARRATIVE THERE, TOO.

JANET, IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU HERE TODAY.

I'VE APPRECIATED BEING IN THE ROOM WITH YOU OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS AS WE'VE ALL EVOLVED TOGETHER AND OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS POSSIBLE AND WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE ARE ACHIEVING. SO JUST JUST HELP US, YOU KNOW, TIE THAT IN A BOW A LITTLE BIT.

ABSOLUTELY. VICE MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE SOME OF THE BACKGROUND.

THE CONVERSATION TO BE 100% RELIABLE ON RENEWABLE ENERGY, STARTED IN EARNEST IN 2016 WITH A FORMER CITY COUNCIL IN 2017, SUSTAINABILITY STAFF WERE DIRECTED TO ACHIEVE 100% CLEAN ENERGY FOR THE CITY ORGANIZATION AND THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY.

AS SUCH, WE WERE THEN GIVEN THE GO AHEAD TO DRAFT THE CITY'S COMMUNITY WIDE FIRST COMMUNITY WIDE CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN, WHICH WE THEN UNDERTOOK DEVELOPING WITH A STEERING COMMITTEE, TECHNICAL CONSULTANTS AND MORE THAN 1000 COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

FOLLOWING THAT, THERE WAS A CALL TO ACTION FROM THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY WITH DECLARING A CLIMATE EMERGENCY, AND A PETITION WAS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2019 AND THEN COUNCIL AT THAT TIME IN 2020 DIRECTED STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING A CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, AS WHICH WAS REQUESTED IN THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY DECLARATION.

THE OTHER ELEMENT OF THAT WAS THAT CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030 WAS IN THE PETITION, AND SO STAFF WERE DIRECTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING A PLAN TO GET OUR COMMUNITY, OUR ORGANIZATION AND OUR COMMUNITY AT CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030.

AS SUCH, WE WORKED WITH OVER 3000 COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO DEVELOP THE PLAN.

WE ALSO HIRED TECHNICAL CONSULTANTS TO HELP US WORK ON THE NUMBERS.

HOW CAN WE ACHIEVE THIS? WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE CANNOT NOT GET TO CARBON NEUTRALITY BY ENERGY EFFICIENCY ALONE, AND THAT IS WHERE CARBON SEQUESTRATION PLAYS SUCH A LARGE ROLE IN OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, MAKING UP 56% OF OUR TOOLBOX, IF YOU WILL.

THE OTHER AREAS OF REDUCING MAINTAINING OUR VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, HOLDING THOSE TO 2019 LEVELS, REDUCING ENERGY USE ACROSS THE

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RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SECTOR AS WELL AS REDUCING WASTE ARE IMPORTANT AND INCREDIBLY POWERFUL.

BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GET US THERE ALONE.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AGAINST ALL THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLANS ACROSS THE WORLD, THEY'RE VERY PRESCRIPTIVE AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON SOME VERY KEY AREAS.

OUR PLAN IS NOT A STAND ALONE, IF YOU WILL, IN TERMS OF BEING UNIQUE OR AN OUTLIER IN THE REALM OF CLIMATE ACTION.

IT IS VERY ON COURSE.

EVERYTHING THAT FLAGSTAFF IS PROPOSING IS AGREED UPON BY THE LEADING EXPERTS AND THE SCIENCE.

SO THAT'S HOW THE PLAN WAS DEVELOPED.

THANK YOU, NICOLE. THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE.

YOU DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT ANY NOTES.

YOU MUST HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MOST OF THAT.

I WILL NOTE YOU COULD CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THAT INVOLVES AT LEAST FOUR, MAYBE FIVE DIFFERENT CITY COUNCILS, AT LEAST THREE, MAYBE MORE DIFFERENT CITY MANAGERS.

AND I KNOW THAT YOUR STAFF AND YOUR ROLE AND EVEN WHERE YOU SIT IN THE ORGANIZATION OF THE MUNICIPALITY HAS SHIFTED OVER THAT TIME AS WELL. SO THERE'S BEEN A LONG THROUGH LINE OF A SLOW, DELIBERATE AND THOUGHTFUL PROCESS THAT HAS RESULTED IN THE IMPLEMENTATIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING AND THE ONGOING UPDATES THAT WE'RE GETTING TODAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

I APOLOGIZE.

I WANT TO ADDRESS TWO POINTS.

ONE IS SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY SAY THIS IS GOING TO COST A LOT OF MONEY.

WELL, I WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT IF WE DO NOTHING, THAT WILL COST EVEN MORE MONEY.

AND ADMITTEDLY, WHAT HAPPENS IN FLAGSTAFF IS ONLY ONE PART OF IT.

THIS HAS TO HAPPEN OVER THE WHOLE WORLD.

AND BUT WE CAN'T EXPECT THE REST OF THE WORLD TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT WILLING TO DO.

THEREFORE, I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

NOW I WANT TO GO BACK TO RELIABILITY OF ENERGY SOURCES.

I MADE A COMMENT BEFORE THAT MY HOUSE HAS A SYSTEM WHERE IF MY ELECTRICITY GOES OUT, I CAN STILL HEAT MY HOME.

BUT I'LL ALSO ADMIT THAT PROBABLY 98% OR MORE OF THE HOUSES IN THIS CITY DON'T HAVE SUCH A SYSTEM AND DON'T HAVE A WOOD BURNING STOVE IN THEIR HOUSE.

SO IF THEY DON'T, EVEN IF YOU HAVE GAS AND THE ELECTRICITY GOES OUT.

YOU DON'T HAVE ANY HEATING.

SO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT CONCEPT IN MIND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RELIABILITY.

JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE GAS DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE RELIABILITY.

AND I DON'T SEE THAT EVERYONE IN THE CITY IS GOING TO ADD A HEATER STOVE LIKE I HAVE IN MY HOUSE.

OR AT A WOOD BURNING STOVE IN THEIR HOUSE.

IT'S JUST IMPRACTICAL.

SO THE RELIABILITY, LIKE IT OR NOT, IS BASICALLY BASED ON RELIABILITY OF ELECTRICITY.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND WE'VE SAT DOWN AND WE'VE TALKED.

ONE OF MY MAJOR CONCERNS WITH THIS.

AND WHEN SOMETIMES PEOPLE TALK, PEOPLE THINK THEY'RE NOT IN FAVOR AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

I THINK WE NEED TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

MOST OF US HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR THIS CONVERSATION FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS AND EVEN SERVED ON SOME MAJOR COMMITTEES TO GET US TO THIS POINT.

MY CONCERN IS THAT WE NEED TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN GETTING THIS INFORMATION OUT TO PEOPLE.

A LOT OF FOLKS ARE THINKING THAT WHEN YOU SAY 100% OR WELL, YOU DON'T SAY 100%, BUT THEY THINK THE PLAN SAYS THAT.

SO I THINK THAT WE DO OURSELVES A DISSERVICE BECAUSE WE KNOW THESE PLANS BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS AND WE ASSUME THAT EVERYBODY IS READING AND THEY'RE NOT. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE GET, THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT THERE TO OUR COMMUNITY TO LET THEM KNOW. AND THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT US.

IT'S GOING TO HELP THE WHOLE PROCESS.

SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S OUT THERE, THE PLAN IS ON THE WEBSITE, READ IT.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHEN I TALK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO PUT ANY GAS

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THING, WHATEVER STOVE IN THEIR HOUSE, IF THEIR HEAT GOES OUT, IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR US TO SAY, WELL, WE HAVE PLACES WHERE THEY CAN GO.

THAT MAKES US SOUND REALLY INSENSITIVE.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH LANGUAGE AND HOW WE USE IT.

AND SO IF THE HEAT GOES OUT AND AND AND A PERSON IS IN THEIR HOME AND THEY CAN'T GET OUT, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME.

AND SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO REALLY THINK IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH FROM HERE TO HERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO DO, IS TO PROCESS IT ALL THE WAY AND NOT ASSUME THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS.

BUT WE WANT TO START WITH AND I'M TALKING TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, I'M NOT JUST TALKING TO YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE STANDING THERE, BUT I'M TALKING TO ALL OF US, IS THAT WE HAVE TO START WITH A AND GO ALL THE WAY TO Z AND DO THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING IT THE SAME WAY.

YOU GET IT OR I GET IT OR ANY OF THE REST OF US GET IT.

AND SO WE CAN'T MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I'M SAYING.

AND JUST TO COUNCIL MEMBER, YES, I'VE BEEN A PART OF ALL OF THESE CONVERSATIONS FOR THE LAST I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS, AND I'VE SAT ON A WHOLE BUNCH OF COMMITTEES AND LEARNED A WHOLE BUNCH ABOUT CARBON NEUTRALITY AND STUFF THAT I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD EVER WANT TO KNOW ABOUT.

BUT I STILL THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF EDUCATING OUR COMMUNITY AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE WORK AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE RESOURCE AND THAT'S A CITY MANAGER'S ISSUE. SO ANYWAY, WITH THAT SAID, I'M DONE.

THANK YOU. AND IF I MAY RESPOND AND COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

AND THIS IS JUST AN INVITATION TO ANYONE.

SPECIFICALLY, THOUGH, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO REACH OUT TO, WE ARE HAPPY TO DO THAT. WE ENGAGE WITH TEN OVER 10,000 PEOPLE A YEAR.

WE ARE A SMALL TEAM, BUT WE DO OUR BEST.

BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO REACH EVERY COMMUNITY MEMBER BY ANY MEANS.

SO ANY IDEAS YOU HAVE, PLEASE SEND THEM OUR WAY.

WE ARE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP, HAPPY TO MEET WITH PEOPLE BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO HELP INDIVIDUALS UNDERSTAND AND MAKE THIS AN ACCESSIBLE DISCUSSION. AND WE'RE WORKING ON IT WITH OUR BUSINESS ADVISORY GROUP, OUR EQUITY ADVISORY GROUP, OUR YOUTH ADVISORY GROUP, OUR SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND NUMEROUS OTHER VOLUNTEERS ARE SUSTAINABLE EXCUSE ME, OUR SUSTAINABILITY LEADERSHIP PROGRAM.

WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE WORD OUT AND A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT WE COULD HAVE A TEAM OF 100 AND STILL NOT HIT EVERY EVERY COMMUNITY MEMBER.

SO THANK YOU. OKAY.

WRAPPING UP THE CONVERSATION, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE JUST A FEW COMMENTS.

UM, I KNOW NICOLE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF JUST RESEARCHING THIS, AND SHE'S ALWAYS PRESENT AND ACCESSIBLE AND COMMENTING ON WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS PLAN. AND I REMEMBER WHEN A FEW COUNCILS AGO ADOPTED THE CLIMATE ADAPTATION PLAN, WHICH WAS, I FELT VERY RELEVANT FOR FLAGSTAFF BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT WAS FOCUSED ON FOREST HEALTH.

WE HAD THE LARGEST PONDEROSA PINE FOREST IN THE WORLD, WHICH IS THE LARGEST CARBON SINK IN THE WORLD.

AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY IN MY MIND TO KEEP THAT HEALTHY BECAUSE IT IT THAT DOES BENEFIT GLOBALLY. UM, THE CARBON EMISSIONS.

UM, WE HAD WARMING STATIONS DURING THE STORMS LAST YEAR.

I THINK NICOLE OR JENNY HAD MENTIONED THOSE, BUT NOBODY USED THEM.

MY BIG CONCERN IS WITH OUR MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE VEHICLES, THEY DON'T HAVE RESOURCES THAT SOME OF US OTHERS DO. AND AGAIN, WE ARE IN A CLIMATE THAT HAS SEVERE COLD WEATHER AND I WILL ALWAYS FOCUS ON THAT.

UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING, WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ALL THESE PLANS THAT WE HAVE HAVE CONSEQUENCES AND SOME OF THEM ARE UN UNFORESEEN OR UNEXPECTED CONSEQUENCES. AND JUST READING WHAT TUCSON JUST WENT THROUGH, WHICH IS A VERY PROGRESSIVE TOWN, IN MY OPINION.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REALLY GOING TOWARDS THE CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS, BUT WHEN THEY REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEY REALIZED THAT THE COST OF

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THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WHICH IS NOT JUST AN EMPTY BLANK CHECK, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT COSTS THE CITY OVER $100,000 A YEAR TO USE CLEAN ENERGY.

AND, AND SO I THINK AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO PUT IT OUT TO THE CITIZENS AND SEE WHAT ALL THEY WANT TO DO.

UM, I THINK WE ALL LOVE OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR BEAUTIFUL CLEAN AIR AND WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS TO KEEP MOTHER NATURE HEALTHY.

UM, BUT I THINK VICE MAYOR ASLIN SAID IT'S GONE THROUGH SEVERAL CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE, WHICH IS ALL OF SEVEN OVER, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THE CITY AS A WHOLE IS.

SO I THINK WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT FINANCIAL IMPACTS, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A DISCUSSION NECESSARY COMING SOON THAT WE DO, AS TUCSON DID, AND PUT IT ON A SPECIAL ELECTION OR NEXT NOVEMBER AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT THE 80,000 PEOPLE WANT TO PRIORITIZE AND WANT TO ABSORB THAT ADDITIONAL COST TO REACH THOSE GOALS.

I KNOW THE STORM WATER RATES ARE HITTING PEOPLE PRETTY HARD.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T REALIZE, EVEN THOUGH WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO THEM.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE THAT I THINK THAT THERE MAY COME A TIME SOON THAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY ASK THE POPULATION AS A WHOLE AND NOT JUST A FEW HUNDRED OR A THOUSAND AND GET IT VOTED SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A LEVEL OF COMFORT KNOWING THAT THIS DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING IN.

UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE GOING IN, IT IS SUPPORTED BY OUR COMMUNITY AND STAY TRANSPARENT.

AND SO I'M JUST GOING TO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.

THANK YOU. SHORT COMMENT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

WELL, I'LL LET YOU DECIDE IF IT'S SHORT.

TONIGHT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS LIKE CLEAN POWER BLAH.

WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM WAS IS GRID RELIABILITY.

NOW, JANET MADE JUST A VERY BRIEF COMMENT ABOUT REDUNDANCY OF OF SOURCES.

SO I THINK THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAY FOR ME AS FAR AS GRID RELIABILITY IS THAT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT APS HAVE THEIR REDUNDANCY.

SO IF A TREE FALLS ACROSS A TRANSMISSION LINE, IT'S LIKE, FINE, WE CAN SWITCH POWER THROUGH AN ALTERNATE SOURCE AND HAVE AS FEW AS POSSIBLE PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED BY IT.

SO WE DO THIS SAME THING IN OUR WATER SYSTEM WHERE LIKE IF A WATER MAIN BREAKS IN ONE AREA, THE WATER CAN COME IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

SO INSTEAD OF JUST A QUICK THOUGHT ON THAT, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A REAL FOCUS ON REDUNDANCY.

I WORKED IN THE AIRCRAFT INDUSTRY AND EVERYTHING ON THAT AIRPLANE SHORT OF THE WING WAS DESIGNED.

SO IF IT FAILED.

THAT SOMETHING ELSE WOULD TAKE OVER AND ALLOW THE SYSTEM TO STILL FUNCTION PROPERLY.

LIKE IF A VALVE STUCK FULL OPEN OR IF A VALVE STUCK FULL CLOSED FINE, THE SYSTEM WOULD STILL WORK.

SO I THINK THAT REDUNDANCY IN THE MAJOR POWER LINES THAT SUPPLY AREAS REDUNDANCY VERY IMPORTANT CONCEPT.

AND I SEE PEOPLE SHAKING THEIR HEAD.

YES. SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

WAS THAT SHORT? NO. ALL RIGHT. SORRY.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

JANET. DO YOU ALL FEEL LIKE YOU'VE HAD AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT YOUR INFORMATION? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WE ARE MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 11 ANNUAL REPORT FOR MOONSHOT AT THE NORTHERN ARIZONA CENTER FOR ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND

[11. Annual Report for MOONSHOT at the Northern Arizona Center for Entrepreneurship and Technology (NACET) - 2023 MOONSHOT is contracted with the City to provide business development and support as well as property management services. They provide an annual report to City Council. The desired outcome is for City Council and the public to be informed of the activities and results generated by the contract, as well as MOONSHOT's efforts in the region with the City of Flagstaff. ]

TECHNOLOGY NASET.

WELCOME. HELLO, MAC.

OH, CRAP. THAT WASN'T WHAT I MEANT TO DO.

PARDON THE DELAY.

MAYOR. VICE. MAYOR.

COUNCIL. DAVID MCINTYRE.

COMMUNITY INVESTMENT DIRECTOR HERE AT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

AND I HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF DOING THE BRIEF INTRODUCTION HERE.

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THERE'S A CONCEPT IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CALLED ECONOMIC GARDENING, AND THAT CAN BE EXPLAINED AS CULTIVATING AND NURTURING ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND SMALL BUSINESSES IN YOUR COMMUNITY AS A WAY TO ENABLE THEM TO GROW FROM WITHIN.

THESE BUSINESSES CREATE JOBS, PROSPERITY, INNOVATION AND RESILIENCE.

IN FACT, MUCH OF THE JOB CREATION IN THE UNITED STATES HAPPENS FROM ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND SMALL BUSINESSES.

EVEN THOUGH WE OFTEN THINK OF THESE LARGER COMPANIES AS THE WAY TO GO.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN IDEAS BEHIND BUILDING THE BUSINESS INCUBATOR AND THE BUSINESS ACCELERATOR AT THE NASA CAMPUS SOME YEARS AGO.

AND IT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT WE CONTRACT MOONSHOT TO PROVIDE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS SUPPORT AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT SERVICES AT THOSE FACILITIES.

HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE FRUITS OF THAT ECONOMIC GARDENING EFFORT IS DIANA WHITE, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CAMPUS FOR MOONSHOT.

GREETINGS, MAYOR DAGGETT.

VICE-MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THINK I'M SUPPOSED TO USE THIS? YES, YOU GOT IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MOONSHOT AT NACET HAD A GREAT 2022, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOME OF THE SUCCESSES WITH YOU.

PLEASE ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE OUR TEAM BEFORE I GET STARTED.

ANGELA HAMBY IS OUR DIRECTOR OF EVENTS AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS.

I STARTED IN MY ROLE AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CAMPUS IN MARCH OF 2022, AND RAINAH RAMSEY IS OUR FACILITIES COORDINATOR.

TOGETHER. THE THREE OF US ARE WORKING TOWARDS MORE STREAMLINED OPERATIONAL PROCESSES ON CAMPUS, AS WELL AS A STRONG FOCUS ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE NUMBERS FOR 2022.

THIS DATA IS AN AGGREGATE OF THE NUMBERS PROVIDED BY OUR TENANTS.

INVESTMENT IN OUR TENANTS VENTURES ALMOST DOUBLED FROM THE YEAR BEFORE, WITH OVER $14 MILLION IN FUNDING.

TOTAL REVENUE GENERATED BY OUR COMPANIES WAS ALMOST $43 BILLION, AN INCREASE OF 43% OVER 2022 OVER 2021.

I APOLOGIZE. JOBS RETAINED OR CREATED TOOK A SLIGHT DIP.

BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL COMPANIES THAT ARE GEARING UP TO HIRE IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.

SO WE'LL SEE THAT REGAIN AGAIN.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS 303 AND 2019 308 AND 2020, A RALLY IN 2021 AND A LITTLE BIT OF A DIP IN 22.

AND WE SHOULD RALLY BACK SHORTLY.

OCCUPANCY IS ALWAYS A GREAT CONCERN FOR THE CAMPUS.

DURING 2022, OUR HIGHEST OCCUPANCY WAS 78%.

BY THE END OF THE YEAR, DUE TO SOME MOVES, SOME PEOPLE MOVED OUT, SOME PEOPLE MOVED IN.

WE WERE AROUND 73% AND WE'RE STILL STICKING AT 73% AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

AND WE'VE HAD ABOUT SEVEN NEW TENANTS MOVE IN.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT MOONSHOT EVENTS.

SO. WE'VE RAMPED UP OUR IN-PERSON EVENTS IN 2022 WITH WORKSHOPS AND CAMPUS QUARTERLY MEETINGS GOING BACK TO IN-PERSON ON CAMPUS.

WE ALSO HAD A MISSIONS AND MADNESS EVENT, A SUCCESSFUL TEAM BUILDING AND WILDERNESS SURVIVAL EXERCISE THAT WAS HOSTED BY ONE OF OUR TENANTS WHO ACTUALLY CREATED THE THE GAME.

IT'S ACTUALLY A GAME THAT YOU PLAY.

IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

FORMER MAYOR WAS THERE, MAYOR DAGGETT, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE THERE NEXT TIME.

SO THAT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

WE ALSO HAD A VISIT FROM THE EDA.

WE VIED FOR A GRANT.

WE WERE ONE OF THE FINALISTS AND THEY CAME TO CAMPUS AND THEY WERE VERY IMPRESSED.

AND WHILE WE DID NOT GET AWARDED THE GRANT, WE MADE SOME LONG LASTING PARTNERSHIPS THAT WILL PROBABLY OPEN UP TO OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE.

OUR PIONEER PITCH EVENT HAD SEVERAL LOCAL SPONSORS THIS YEAR, INCLUDING THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

AND HAD $16,000 IN PRIZES IN SCHOLARSHIPS.

WE ALSO HAD SIMULTANEOUSLY OUR INNOVATE WASTE CARBON NEUTRALITY CHALLENGE WITH CLOSE TO 40,000IN PRIZES AND SCHOLARSHIPS FOR THAT PITCH EVENT AS WELL.

AND IF YOU CAN SEE HERE, OUR WINNERS, UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE MY GLASSES IN MY BAG, SO I CAN'T SEE.

BUT OUR FIRST PLACE WINNER WAS FOUR CORNERS CARBON COALITION, WHICH IS WORKING TO BUILD SUSTAINABLE COMPONENTS FOR HOUSING, FOR HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

SO HOPEFULLY IF THAT GOES WELL, THEN IT WILL SPAN TO OTHER BUILDERS AND WE CAN START TO SEE BUILDING MATERIALS BEING USED THAT DON'T PUT AS MUCH CARBON OR REQUIRE AS MUCH TRAVEL CARBON EMISSIONS.

OUR THIRD ANNUAL SHOEMAKER AWARDS IS COMING UP THIS YEAR, JULY 28TH, 2023, AT THE LITTLE AMERICA HOTEL.

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WE WOULD LOVE IT IF WE COULD SEE OUR CITY OF FLAGSTAFF MAYOR AND COUNCIL SUPPORT US AT THAT EVENT.

IT'S USUALLY A REALLY GOOD TIME.

AND THEN WE PLAN TO EXPAND OUR WOMEN BUSINESS OFFERINGS.

SO WE MEAN BUSINESS IS OUR WOMEN AND ENTREPRENEURS AND BUSINESS PROGRAM.

RIGHT NOW WE REALLY DO MOSTLY WORKSHOPS AND SEMINARS.

WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM TO ALLOW FOR CURRICULUM AS WELL FOR OUR WOMEN BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

THE NACET TEAM IS EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND WILL CONTINUE TO POSITIVELY IMPACT ENTREPRENEURS, START UPS AND THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT WAS GREAT.

COUNCIL. VICE MAYOR.

YEAH. REAL QUICK THEN, CAN YOU JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SHOEMAKER AWARDS AND SAY THAT DATE AGAIN, I DIDN'T GET IT TO WRITE IT DOWN.

SHOEMAKER AWARDS.

IT'S GOING TO BE JULY 28TH IN THE EVENING AT LITTLE AMERICA.

YOU GUYS WILL PROBABLY BE GETTING INVITES.

TELL ME MORE ABOUT IT. YES, OF COURSE.

VICE MAYOR. SO SHOEMAKER AWARDS IS SOMETHING THAT WE STARTED THREE YEARS AGO JUST AS A CELEBRATION OF NOT ONLY THE PROGRESS THAT SOME OF OUR COMPANIES AND OUR TENANTS ON CAMPUS HAVE DONE, BUT ALSO TO NOW INCORPORATE A FINAL NORTHERN ARIZONA WIDE PITCH EVENT.

SO MOONSHOT GOES ACROSS NORTHERN ARIZONA EXCUSE ME, AND WE HOST PITCH EVENTS IN THE DIFFERENT CITIES.

THE FIRST PLACE WINNERS OF EACH OF THOSE CITIES GET TO COME TO FLAGSTAFF FOR THE SHOEMAKER AWARDS TO PITCH FOR A FIRST PLACE PRIZE.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COMES FROM MOONSHOT CORPORATE, BUT BECAUSE IT'S IN FLAGSTAFF, MOONSHOT AT NASA IS A PART OF THAT AS WELL.

AND OUR FIRST PLACE WINNER FROM OUR PITCH EVENT WILL PITCH AS WELL.

SO WE DO THAT EVERY YEAR, ACTUALLY NEXT YEAR.

THE SHOEMAKER WELL, THE AWARD CEREMONY, THAT PITCH EVENT WILL HAPPEN ACROSS NORTHERN ARIZONA, BUT NACET WILL RETAIN THE SHOEMAKER AWARDS AND WE WILL CHANGE IT TO REALLY FOCUS ON WHAT OUR TENANTS ARE DOING ON THE CAMPUS.

SO I'M ALLUDING TO SOME CHANGES, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN SHAPE YET.

AS SOON AS THEY ARE, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW FOR NEXT YEAR.

BUT THIS YEAR WE WANT TO SEE YOU AT THE THIRD ANNUAL.

AND THAT'S JULY 28TH.

JULY 28TH. YES.

AND SHOEMAKER, IS THAT NAMED AFTER THE ASTRONOMER? WHY, YES. VICE MAYOR.

YES. THE SHOEMAKER AWARDS ARE NAMED AFTER THE ACTUAL SHOEMAKER.

YES. COMMENTS.

QUESTIONS. OKAY.

I DO NOT SEE ANY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12, WE ARE JUST GOING TO TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK AND WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.

OKAY. WE ARE MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 12.

[12. J.W. Powell Specific Plan Study Update Provide a status update on the J.W. Powell Specific Plan Study. ]

J.W. POWELL SPECIFIC PLANS STUDY UPDATE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

DAVID PETERSON, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT MANAGER.

AND I'M JOINED THIS EVENING BY MICHELLE MCNULTY WITH OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR HERE AT THE CITY, AS WELL AS JULIE LEAD FROM PEAK ENGINEERING, AS WELL AS CHRISTOPHER TRESSLER FROM THE COCONINO COUNTY AS WELL.

SO I'D LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR TIME AND PARTICIPATION IN THIS PRESENTATION THIS EVENING AS WELL.

AND JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE MAP.

I HAVE A CONTEXT MAP HERE ON THE SCREEN.

SO THE PROJECT ENDS AT THE EXISTING SOUTH END OF SOUTH FOURTH STREET AND THEN ON THE EASTERN END OF JOHN WESLEY POWELL.

SO THE ROADWAY CONNECTS THESE TWO EXISTING ROADWAYS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS GREEN CIRCLE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

BUT PERHAPS A BETTER MAP TO SHOW IS THE ONE ON THIS SCREEN THAT SHOWS THE ALIGNMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL BACK IN JULY OF 2022.

SO WE HAD A MEETING AT THE END OF JUNE.

WE HAD A MEETING IN THE BEGINNING OF JULY WITH STRONG PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND COUNCIL MOVED TO HAVE SIGNED THE FINAL ALIGNMENT WITH THAT ONE THAT'S SHOWN ON THE SCREEN AS THE YELLOW LINE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL REFER TO IN THIS PRESENTATION, AND THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE AS WELL THAT WE'LL LEAVE ON FOR THE DISCUSSION AT THE END.

BUT THIS PURPLE L SHAPED PARCEL HERE WAS THE FORMER STATE LAND TRUST PARCEL TWO.

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SO WHEN I REFER TO THE STATE LAND PARCEL, KEEP THIS PURPLE FUCHSIA COLORED PARCEL IN MIND.

AND I'LL POINT OUT REAL QUICKLY THAT THE ALIGNMENT BEFORE THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT THAT IS REFERRED TO CUT UP THROUGH SOUTH FOURTH STREET HERE AND THEN CAME UP AND CONNECTED UP HERE. JUST FOR REFERENCE ON THAT ONE TOO, ON THE PREVIOUS ALIGNMENT.

TO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT TEAM.

WE HAVE A MYRIAD OF CITY STAFF THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT.

MANY HANDS MAKE LIGHT WORK, AND I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT MANY HANDS MAKES A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT.

SO THIS IS A VERY LARGE PROJECT THAT TAKES A LOT OF BRILLIANT MINDS, HUMBLE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE ON THIS TEAM.

IT'S WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE PARTNERS THAT ARE HERE, AS WELL AS CITY STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANT PEAK ENGINEERING AND THEIR SUB CONSULTANT SWAYBACK, WHICH IS AN ARCHITECTURAL PLANNING FIRM THAT'S OUT OF THE VALLEY AS WELL.

I WAS TORN ON WHAT TO PUT IN HERE IN AN UPDATE.

THIS PROJECT GOES BACK WELL BEFORE MY TIME AT THE CITY, BUT I BECAME INVOLVED IN 2019.

THE CONTRACT WITH PEAK ENGINEERING STARTED IN 2018.

WE REALLY STARTED HAVING AN INCREASED PRESENCE HERE AT THE COUNCIL BACK IN 2020 WHEN WE PRESENTED THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK.

SO KIND OF WORKING ON A PLANNING EFFORT, ON LOOKING AT ACTIVITY CENTERS, LOOKING AT PUBLIC FACILITIES, TALKING ABOUT KIND OF BEGINNING THE DISCUSSION, TESTING ASSUMPTIONS ON WHAT WE CAN DO IN THIS AREA TO REALLY SERVE AND FOSTER OUR COMMUNITY.

BACK WHEN IT WAS THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT, WE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS IN PUBLIC OPEN HOUSES AND MEETINGS ONE ON ONE WITH PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE HAD EXHIBITS SHOWING THEM WHAT THEIR FRONT YARD WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE NEW ALIGNMENT THROUGH THEIR YARD.

SO WE HAD A LOT OF INPUT AND A LOT OF PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY, WHICH IS ALSO A LARGE ASPECT OF CHANGE.

ORDER FIVE, WHICH IS WHAT PART OF THE UPDATE PART OF THE ASK IN THIS PRESENTATION IS CHANGE ORDER FIVE, WHICH WILL BE COMING FORWARD TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK TO MAKE A DECISION OR APPROVAL ON THAT CONTRACTUAL CHANGE.

SO TONIGHT WE ALWAYS LIKE TO DO WHENEVER WE'RE COMING FORTH WITH A CONTRACTUAL CHANGE, WE ALWAYS LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE AS WELL.

IT'S A BIG ENOUGH PROJECT THAT THERE'S ENOUGH GOING ON.

THERE'S ALWAYS NEW INFORMATION TO SHARE ON THIS.

SO IN ABOUT SPRING TO EARLY SUMMER OF 21, THAT'S WHEN THE LARGE PARCEL PROPERTY OWNER, THE HANDS CHANGED OWNERSHIP FROM THAT STATE LAND DEPARTMENT PARCEL, THAT 405 TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

AND THAT REALLY OPENED UP THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING AN ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT GOING THROUGH WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE LARGE PARCEL PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO THE LARGE PARCEL AND SMALL PARCEL PROPERTY OWNERS, THE ONLY DIFFERENTIATION THERE IS JUST THE SIZE OF THE PARCEL THAT THE LANDOWNER HAS.

IT'S THE ONLY DELINEATION THERE.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 20 ACRES OR SO.

BUT IT HELPS DETERMINE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF PARCELS IN AN AREA, JUST KIND OF TO SEPARATE THE TWO.

SO BACK IN THAT MAPPING EXHIBIT IN THE BEGINNING, THAT WILL SHOW IN THE END THE SMALL PARCEL PROPERTY OWNERS WERE THOSE ONES IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT IN THE GREEN AND THE ORANGE.

SO IT'S ABOUT 400, I THINK 420, 430 ACRES AS WELL.

SO THEN WE HAVE A PROJECT WEBSITE WHICH A QR CODE IS AT THE ON THE LAST SLIDE OF THIS AS WELL.

AND WE TRY TO KEEP THAT UPDATED.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT'S COMING ACROSS AND WE TRY TO KEEP THAT UPDATED AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

THAT CAME RIGHT BEFORE OUR TIME HERE AT COUNCIL IN THE END OF JUNE.

IN THE BEGINNING OF JULY LAST YEAR, WHEN WE WERE HAVING THOSE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SESSIONS, ALONG WITH THE ALIGNMENT SELECTION.

AND THEN WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE LAST 3 TO 5 MONTHS REALLY SCOPING THE SPECIFIC PLAN.

SO MICHELLE IS THE BRILLIANT MIND BEHIND THE PLANNING AND SHE'LL GO IN MORE DETAIL IN THE PRESENTATION ON WHAT A SPECIFIC PLAN IS, THE TERM.

WE'LL BE THROWING AROUND A LOT IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT REALLY TRYING TO SCOPE THAT APPROPRIATELY FOR WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO BACK IN THE DAY WHEN WE STARTED BACK IN 2018, THE PROJECT ENCOMPASSED A REALLY LARGE, VERY EXTENSIVE SPECIFIC PLAN BECAUSE THE REGIONAL PLAN WAS SO FAR AWAY. WELL, HERE WE ARE IN 2023, 2024, AND THE REGIONAL PLAN IS REALLY AT THE CRUX OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SO WE DON'T NEED ALL THE VARIABLES THAT WERE PRESENT IN THAT SPECIFIC PLAN ORIGINALLY, CURRENTLY.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO JUST CHECK A CHECK BOX BECAUSE IT'S WHAT WE DO.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING AN ASSESSMENT THAT REALLY BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY AND THAT REALLY BENEFITS THIS AREA AS WELL, SMALL AND LARGE PARCEL PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO BY EXTRAPOLATING THE VARIABLES THAT WE NEED FROM A SPECIFIC PLAN LIGHT, WE CAN IMPORT THAT INTO THE REGIONAL PLAN.

AND MICHELLE WILL TOUCH ON THAT WHEN SHE SPEAKS UP HERE AT THE DIOCESE AS WELL.

AND THEN I WOULD BE AMISS IF WE DIDN'T GET TO TALK ABOUT THE FLOODING.

I'M SURE THAT YOU HAVE SEEN MANY OF THE EMAILS THAT HAVE COME IN TO CITY STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE COUNTY.

THEY HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL WITH THEIR STAFF AND THEIR RESPONSE AS WELL.

I'D LIKE TO THANK CITY MANAGER CLIFTON AS WELL FOR ORCHESTRATING AND CULTIVATING A LETTER TO THE PARCEL OWNERS THAT WERE OUT THERE AS WELL TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY'RE SUPPORTED

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AND A VALUABLE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

I'LL LET THIS ONE.

THE NEXT SLIDE SPEAK.

SPEAK IT IN PICTURES.

THIS PICTURE IS TAKEN IN MID-APRIL USING THE DRONE HERE FROM THE CITY.

THIS IS NOT THE PEAK OF THE FLOODING, BUT IT IS PRETTY REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT OUT THERE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

SO FOR A BACKGROUND, THIS HOT PINK LINE HERE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT, THIS IS HAROLD RANCH ROAD.

IF YOU'RE DRIVING EAST ON BUTLER, RIGHT AFTER LITTLE AMERICA AND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE FROM BLACK BART'S, THERE'S A RIGHT TURN THAT JUST KIND OF SLIPS OFF.

BUTLER AND THAT'S HAROLD RANCH ROAD.

SO IF YOU FOLLOW THAT ROAD DOWN, IT EVENTUALLY INTERSECTS THE RIO DE FLAG, WHICH IS SHOWN HERE ON THE RIGHT.

AND YOU CAN SEE FOR SCALE, IT'S ABOUT JUST UNDER TWO FEET OF FLOOD STAGE ON THE GAGE.

AND HERE'S A TRUCK THAT'S MAKING A VALIANT EFFORT TO CROSS THERE.

SO THERE WAS A TIME WHEN.

RESIDENTS THAT ARE BEHIND THESE FLOODING WATERS.

AND WE HAVE RESIDENTS OUT THERE THAT HAVE SHARED WITH US THAT THEY CARE FOR THEIR ELDERLY FAMILY MEMBERS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ON SYSTEMS THAT HAVE TO HAUL WATER.

THEY HAVE LIVESTOCK.

NOT THAT ANY PART OF OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD NEVER HAVE ACCESS TO EMERGENCY SERVICES.

BUT IN THIS AREA IT'S THE SAME THING.

IT'S THEY NEED TO HAVE THE ACCESS THAT IS ALL WEATHER RELIABLE.

SO IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO WORK WITH CITY AND COUNTY.

IT'S KIND OF A JURISDICTIONAL PLAYGROUND OF ACTIVITY ON THAT ROAD.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT TAKES THE ENTIRE TEAM TO BE ABLE TO ORCHESTRATE HERE.

AND I THINK THE THEME BEHIND THIS SLIDE, TOO, IS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON SHORT TERM AND WE'RE WORKING ON LONG TERM SOLUTIONS.

SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS CHRIS COMES UP AND SPEAKS AS WELL.

AND AS WE WORK ON THE CITY AND WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO FIGURE OUT ALTERNATIVE WAYS THAT WE CAN CONNECT TO THAT SOUTH FOURTH STREET NOW THAT THE ALIGNMENTS FURTHER TO THE WEST.

SO THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE IN VERY PRELIMINARY STAGES, BUT THEY ARE HAPPENING.

SO AS MORE DETAILS COME ALONG IN THIS PROCESS, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO KEEP COUNSEL UP TO DATE ON THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND THOSE DECISIONS AT THAT TIME.

BUT AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO CALL UP CHRISTOPHER TRESSLER TO SHARE MORE ON THE COUNTY END OF THE FLOODING.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY HAS A QUESTION.

A QUICK QUESTION.

COULD YOU BRING UP THAT MAP AGAIN THAT SHOWED THE ALIGNMENTS AND THEN SHOW US WHERE ON THAT MAP THIS FLOODING IS? YEP, THAT'S SHORT.

I'M JUST GOING TO GO TO THE END BECAUSE IT'S FASTER.

SO THIS IS THE YELLOW IS THE ALIGNMENT.

AND HAROLD RANCH ROAD COMES DOWN RIGHT ABOUT HERE AND THE CROSSING IS RIGHT HERE ACTUALLY ON CANYON DEL RIOS.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SO IT'S ON CANYON DEL RIO OR ABOUT APPROXIMATELY RIGHT WHERE THAT DOT IS.

I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

THANKS, DAVID. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M HERE TO REPRESENT COCONINO COUNTY.

I'M THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

I ALSO SERVE AS THE COUNTY ENGINEER.

AND THIS WINTER WE DEFINITELY HAD A REMINDER THAT THERE ARE PARTS OF COCONINO COUNTY AND CITY OF FLAGSTAFF THAT ARE VERY MUCH RURAL.

AND WITH THE PICTURES DAVID SHOWED, YOU CAN SEE THAT ACCESS WAS ALL BUT CUT OFF TO THE REST OF THE CITY BY CITY AND COUNTY RESIDENTS.

SOME OF THE.

ACTIVITIES WE UNDERTOOK TO TRY TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE ANXIETY AND STRESS OF THESE RESIDENTS THAT WE WORKED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND SEARCH AND RESCUE TO DEVELOP A STRATEGY AT TIME PERIOD THROUGHOUT THE DAY IN THE MORNING, AND THEN IN LATE AFTERNOON THAT RESIDENTS WERE SHUTTLED BACK AND FORTH ACROSS THE WASH OF THE RIO DE FLAG TO TRY TO GIVE THEM ACCESS AND GIVE THEM SOME SENSE OF NORMALITY.

BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A WORST CASE SCENARIO THIS YEAR AS THE SNOW MELTED THAT THIS THIS CROSSING IS A LOW WATER CROSSING AND IT'S EXPECTED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY INUNDATED WITH WATER WHEN WE HAVE MONSOON STORMS THAT RAISE THE STAGE OF THE RIO DE FLAG OR WHEN WE SEE SNOWMELT RUNOFF LIKE WE DID AND THIS THIS RUNOFF EVENT, IT'S TOUGH TO PUT A REOCCURRENCE INTERVAL OR HOW OFTEN CAN WE EXPECT TO SEE THIS TYPE OF RUNOFF HAPPEN? AND SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN AROUND, SOMETHING ABOUT A 50 YEAR EVENT AND WHAT THAT MEANS REALLY IS IT'S 2% CHANCE IN ANY GIVEN YEAR THAT WE COULD SEE RUNOFF LIKE THIS.

AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED VERY OFTEN, BUT IT CERTAINLY HAPPENED THIS YEAR.

COCONINO COUNTY AND MORE OF THE OF THE SHORT TERM FIX OF THE AREA OR SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS THAT WE SAW SIGNIFICANT EROSION. WE SAW A LOT OF VELOCITY OF THE WATER THROUGH THE CROSSING.

AND SO WE WANT TO ELIMINATE THAT EROSION AS MUCH AS WE CAN SO THAT WHEN WATER STARTS TO RECEDE, IT MAY STILL BE WET, BUT WE WANT CARS TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE THROUGH THIS ON A PAVED CROSSING.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK THIS CONSTRUCTION SEASON UNTIL WINTER COMES TO DEVELOP A STRATEGY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND THE CONCRETE APRONS THAT ARE THERE.

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THAT'S WHAT WE SAW. FAIL OR ERODE IS JUST OUTSIDE OF THE CONCRETE.

APRONS COST A BUNCH OF EROSION THAT MADE IT ALMOST IMPASSABLE EVEN TO HIGH CLEARANCE VEHICLES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND THE CONCRETE APRONS ON EACH SIDE AND MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE PASSABLE.

BUT WE STILL DO NOT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CROSS WATERS WHEN WHEN THINGS ARE FLOODED.

AND IT'S A DANGEROUS SITUATION.

BUT I THINK AS THE REGIONAL PLAN, AS OTHER DEVELOPMENTS COME INTO PLAY, LIKE LONG TERM, WE'RE HOPING TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE STRESS AT THIS CROSSING WITH OTHER ACCESSES AND OTHER WAYS THAT THE COMMUNITIES CAN HAVE INGRESS AND EGRESS WITH THAT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO PRESENT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO DO A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WHAT IS A SPECIFIC PLAN.

SO REALLY, IT'S JUST A THE PURPOSE OF IT THROUGH CODE IS JUST TO PROVIDE A GREATER LEVEL OF DETAIL FOR A SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC AREA, AND IT REALLY PROVIDES THE STANDARDS FOR SYSTEMATIC IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

SO THE PLAN DOES HAVE TO BE IN LINE WITH THE LARGER REGIONAL PLAN.

DAVID KIND OF HIT ON IT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A SITE OR A SPECIFIC PLAN LIGHT, AND THAT JUST MEANS WE'RE REALLY HITTING ON A FEW TOPICS THAT ARE REALLY CENTRAL TO THIS AREA.

RECOGNIZING THAT WE'RE ALSO IN THE MIDST OF DOING THE REGIONAL PLAN UPDATE AND OTHER LARGE PICTURE ITEMS THAT ARE BROAD WILL BE COVERED THROUGH THAT BIGGER PROCESS.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT IS THE LAND USE FRAMEWORK.

WE ARE WORKING WITH AN AREA THAT WE'RE SEEING DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

SO WE WILL BE LIMITED IN SOME RIGHTS THAT DEVELOPMENT IS COMING IN.

SOME OF IT'S COMING IN BY RIGHT.

SOME OF IT WILL COME IN FOR REZONES, BUT THERE ARE ALSO OTHER AREAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION IN, AND SO WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT THOSE AND SEE WHAT'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE TERRAIN OF THIS AREA. IT IS A HEAVILY TREED AREA, ALSO SLOPES AND FLOODPLAINS.

SO THIS WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AND KIND OF WAY THAT FROM THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING, WHAT THE REGIONAL PLAN CALLED FOR AND WHAT IS THE VIABILITY OF THIS THIS AREA.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE ACTIVITY CENTERS.

THE REGIONAL PLAN CALLED FOR FIVE ACTIVITY CENTERS.

THERE'S SOME QUESTION OF WHETHER THIS AREA CAN REALLY SUPPORT THAT.

SO WE NEED TO REASSESS THAT AS WELL WITH THE ALIGNMENT OF THE ROAD CHANGING THE LOCATIONS OF THOSE ACTIVITY CENTERS ARE GOING TO NEED TO CHANGE AS WELL.

SO THEY'RE MORE APPROPRIATELY PLACED.

A LOT OF THIS IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE REALIGNMENT.

SO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, NOT JUST OF THAT LARGER ARTERIAL, BUT ALSO THE COLLECTOR ROADS THAT PROVIDE SECONDARY ACCESS THROUGH THIS AREA.

TRAILS AND OPEN SPACE ARE A LARGE COMPONENT.

A LARGE AREA OF THE ARIZONA TRAIL RUNS THROUGH HERE.

WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT A LOT OF THE LARGE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THIS AREA RECOGNIZE THAT AS AN ATTRIBUTE, AND THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED TO WORK WITH US ON IDENTIFYING THOSE AREAS, AND THEN ALSO PUBLIC FACILITIES.

I THINK YOU'VE HEARD IN DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR A NEW FIRE STATION IN THE JWP AREA.

SO WE'LL BE TAKING SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS DONE DURING THE STUDY FOR STANDARD COVERAGE THAT WAS DONE AND BE LOOKING AT THAT IN THIS AREA OF WHERE THERE WOULD BE SOME LOGICAL PLACES TO PLACE A FIRE DEPARTMENT OR I'M SORRY, A NEW FIRE STATION, AND THEN ALL OF THIS WILL INFORM THE REGIONAL PLAN UPDATE WITH MORE [INAUDIBLE] SPECIFICITY FOR THE AREA.

SORRY, IT'S ALWAYS A HARD WORD FOR ME.

I'M GOING TO STOP THERE.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANT TO ALSO STATE THAT I'M ALMOST FINISHED.

WE WILL BE DOING, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LARGE PROPERTY OWNERS, WE WILL BE HOLDING A LOT OF PUBLIC OUTREACH AS WELL, AND THAT WILL INCLUDE ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE AREA AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC.

THAT WASN'T A FINE POINT IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT, AND THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

WELL, IF I MAY, I'LL JUST JUMP RIGHT IN HERE.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH HOFFMAN TANK? YES, I AM. SO WE HAVE AN OPEN SPACES COMMISSIONER WHO'S SENT AN EMAIL TO COUNCIL.

I FIND IT TO BE COMPELLING AND WORTHY OF BRINGING UP HERE JUST TO REQUEST THAT WE ADVOCATE FOR THE

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VOICE OF THE OPEN SPACES SECTION OF PROSE AND OPEN SPACES COMMISSION TO BE FRONT AND CENTER.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT OF THE NEW SPECIFIC PLAN.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO REACT TO THAT OR BRING UP ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY APPRECIATION FOR THE EMAIL THAT CAME TO US FROM OUR OPEN SPACE COMMISSIONER AND ADVOCATE FOR WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH, I GUESS MY REACTION WOULD BE WE'RE COMPLETELY ON BOARD WITH THAT.

WE'VE ALREADY BEEN MEETING WITH MEMBERS OF PROS ON CERTAIN ACQUISITIONS THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN IN THAT AREA AND TRYING TO STRATEGICALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST AREA FOR THEM TO ASK FOR.

YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT IS GETTING THE ALIGNMENT TOGETHER TO REALLY REALIZE WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST PIECES FOR THEM TO ACQUIRE, AND THEN AS FAR AS THAT, I THINK ONE OF THE PAGES THAT DETAILS THE SPECIFICS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE QUITE A BIT OF SCOPE ADDRESSING THE OPEN SPACE AS WELL AS THE TRAILS IN THAT AREA. SO WE ALREADY HAVE THAT ON OUR RADAR.

I THINK THE ONLY THING WE DIDN'T HAVE IS MAYBE GOING TO THE OPEN SPACE COMMISSION AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADD TO THE SCOPE.

OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCIL? I DON'T SEE ANY. OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, AND VICE MAYOR, I'LL ADD TO THAT, TOO, IN THE FACT THAT PART OF THAT HOFFMAN TAKES REALLY CRITICAL TO THAT AREA AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ARIZONA GAME AND FISH AND TALKING ABOUT WILDLIFE CROSSINGS AND CORRIDORS.

SO THAT AREA IS REALLY CRITICAL AND ALSO IN THE CONTEXT OF OPEN SPACE, BUT ALSO IN WILDLIFE CROSSINGS.

SO TO DOUBLE DIP ON THAT.

THANK YOU, MICHELLE, AND THEN I WAS JUST GOING TO WRAP UP THE PRESENTATION TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CHANGE ORDER FIVE AND WHAT THEY ASK IN THIS CONTRACTUAL CHANGE IS IT'S BROKEN INTO FIVE TASKS WITH A COUPLE, TWO ADDITIONAL TASKS, ONE BEING YOUR YOUR BASIC PROJECT MANAGEMENT ORCHESTRATING CONTRACTS ON THEIR END, AS WELL AS ORCHESTRATING PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, MEETINGS AND COORDINATION BEHIND THAT.

IT IS, LIKE MICHELLE SAID, GOING TO HAVE A LARGE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AS IT SHOULD WHEN YOU'RE FOSTERING DEVELOPMENT AND CULTIVATION OF A NEW LARGE AREA 2100-2200 ACRES OF OUR COMMUNITY.

CRITICAL REVIEW OF THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, THAT'S TASK ONE.

THAT'S A LOT OF BASE MAPPING COMING UP WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE PROJECT, MEMORIALIZING THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PLAN, AS WELL AS DOING A MARKET ANALYSIS OF THE AREA. NUMBER TWO, THE TASK IS THE ANALYSIS OF THE LAND AREA, AND THIS ONE LOOKS AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL OVERLAY ANALYSIS.

SO LOOKING AT SLOPES AND FLOODPLAINS, LIKE MICHELLE SAID, IT'S A VERY TOPOGRAPHICAL RICH AREA.

IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS THE MAP WE SHOW HERE ON THE SCREEN, AND ALL 2200 ACRES CAN BE DEVELOPED.

IT'S A REALLY BEAUTIFUL AREA, AND WE'RE EXCITED FOR THE POTENTIAL REALIGNMENT OF THE ARIZONA TRAIL VICE MAYOR, WHERE WE CAN HAVE A MORE APPROPRIATE ALIGNMENT OF THE TRAIL AS THINGS DEVELOP IN THAT AREA THAT YOU CAN HOPEFULLY POTENTIALLY FOLLOW THE RIPARIAN FLOOD ZONE AND ENJOYING SOME OF THOSE CANYONS AND SOME OF THE VEGETATION THAT GROWS IN THOSE UNIQUE AREAS.

SO REALLY PRESERVING THAT AND WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE ARIZONA TRAIL TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT.

A LOT OF OPEN SPACE OVERLAY ANALYSIS.

I CAN'T HIT ENOUGH THAT MICHELLE NAILED IT ON THE HEAD THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE OPEN SPACE COMMISSION, SO WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW WE TIME THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL.

SO IT'S FUN HAVING EVERYONE AT THE TABLE SO YOU CAN BE FLUID IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS ACROSS THE BOARD, KNOWING THAT THERE'S INTENT WITH OPEN SPACE TO HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY FOR THE WILDLIFE, FOR THE PEDESTRIANS, FOR THE ARIZONA TRAIL.

WELL IN THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

PART OF THAT ALSO IS THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ANALYSIS.

SO THERE ON THE BACK, ON THE BOTTOM ONE, THE TRAFFIC PLANNING SUPPORT, THAT ALSO INCLUDES SOME OF THE WORK WITH BURGESS AND NIPLE LOOKING AT SOME OF THEIR MODELING, THEIR CRITICAL PART ON THE BEULAH AND 4TH STREET PROJECT AS WELL.

THEY ALSO DO A LOT WITH METRO PLAN.

WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF MODELING WITH THEM, LOOKING AT TRAFFIC COUNTS AND FLOWS, AND JEFF BAUMAN HAS BEEN PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL, TOO.

SO AND THEN LOOKING AT PUBLIC FACILITIES ALSO IN THAT TASK TWO, UNDER ANALYSIS OF LAND AREA.

PRELIMINARY PLAN FRAMEWORK, THAT AGAIN IS LOOKING AT THE TRAIL CONNECTIVITY OPTIONS, LOOKING AT OPEN SPACE OPTIONS, LANDSCAPE CHARACTER, AS WELL AS THE STREET AND ROADWAY NETWORK THAT MICHELLE SPOKE TO AS WELL, THAT WE HAVE NOT JUST THE MAIN ALIGNMENT, WHICH IS THE MAIN PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DESIGNING AND CONSTRUCTING, BUT REALIZING THAT ROADWAY IS GOING TO FEED INTO COLLECTORS IN THIS AREA AS WELL.

SO IT'S NOT THE END ALL ROAD, ALTHOUGH IT IS THE ONE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE DISCUSSIONS CURRENTLY, BUT WE NEED TO PLAN FOR SOME OF THOSE COLLECTOR ROADS TO MAKE THE COMPLETE

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NETWORK IN THIS AREA, ESPECIALLY AS THAT AREA DEVELOPS AND GROWS.

TASK FOUR IS CRYSTALLIZING THE PLANNING STRATEGY AND THAT'S REALLY LOOKING AT THOSE OPTIONS FROM TASK THREE AND REALLY SELECTING THE PREFERENTIAL ONES THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. SO THE PREFERRED PLACE TYPES, THE PREFERRED TRAIL CONNECTIVITY, PREFERRED OPEN SPACE PLAN, AND THEN REALLY ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING MULTIPLE OPEN HOUSES UPDATES TO COUNCIL AND THEN MOVING INTO THE FINAL REPORT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE TASK FIVE, THE ACTUAL REPORT REVIEWING THE REPORT, LOOKING AT THE SPECIFICS OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN, AND THEN AN UPDATE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS ACTUALLY IN THE SCOPE VICE MAYOR CURRENTLY.

SO THAT ONE WAS FORESEEN BY [INAUDIBLE].

THEY HAVE AN AMAZING BREADTH OF KNOWLEDGE IN DEALING WITH SPECIFIC PLANS, ESPECIALLY AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL, AND THEN AGAIN, ANOTHER UPDATE TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO WE LOVE KEEPING YOU UP TO DATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON.

AS I SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF NUTS AND BOLTS AND COGS GOING ON.

WE ALSO TRY TO DO OUR BEST.

IN ADDITION TO KEEPING THE WEBSITE UP TO DATE, WE ALWAYS SEND OUT AN EMAIL BLAST TO ALL THE RESIDENTS AND THE PARCEL OWNERS IN THAT AREA, AND SOME OF THEM PREFER NOT TO HAVE ELECTRONIC NOTIFICATIONS.

SO WE ACTUALLY SEND SNAIL MAIL LETTERS AS WELL.

SO WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING PEOPLE, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT, TO INVITE THEM TO THESE MEETINGS, TO COME AND VOICE THEIR OPINION, TO SHARE THEM WITH COUNCIL AND WITH STAFF, AND I THINK THEY'VE REACHED A LEVEL WHERE THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE EMAILING US SAYING, WHAT'S GOING ON? WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE AN UPDATE.

AS YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE PROCESSES TAKE TIME, SO IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE THAT A MONTH GOES BY AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I'M GLAD THAT WE COULD WORK WITH OUR COUNTY PARTNERS IN THE FLOODING ISSUE AND HAVING THE FIFTH SNOWIEST WINTER ON RECORD IN FLAGSTAFF.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT SADLY CAME TO THE FOREFRONT, BUT IT'S GOOD THAT WE CAN ADDRESS AND BE PART OF THE SOLUTION IN THAT AND PART OF THE PART OF THE PLAN, PART OF THE PARTIES FOR BEING PART OF THE SOLUTION.

THAT'S A LOT OF P'S.

IT IS A LOT OF P'S, [CHUCKLING] AND THEN JUST TO WRAP THAT UP, THE ASK IS 601 CALENDAR DAYS.

THE SPECIFIC PLAN ITSELF TAKES ABOUT ABOUT A YEAR TO COMPLETE.

SO IT IS A TIMELY INSTRUMENT TO COMPLETE AND THEN THE COST FOR THAT CONTRACT ADD IS A LITTLE OVER $220,000, AND WITH THAT, I'LL WRAP UP MY PIECE.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, COUNCIL? WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

HI, DAVID.

THESE DEVELOPMENT CHANGES I THINK WE'RE ON I DON'T KNOW THE THIRD DECADE JUST REALLY DRIVE ME CRAZY, BUT SO 601 CALENDAR DAYS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AS FAR AS WHEN CAN WE ACTUALLY START CONSTRUCTION? THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON A LONG TIME AND IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.

THIS JUST WRACKS MY BRAIN.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, AND THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES TO IT AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION NOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE, A FINAL ROUTE THAT EXCUSE ME, GOES THROUGH THE LARGE PARCEL PROPERTY OWNERS, THE TIMELINE CAN BE EXPEDITED.

SO I REMEMBER BEING AT SOME OF THESE LARGE OPEN HOUSES WITH THE SMALL PARCEL PROPERTY OWNERS PREDOMINANTLY AND TELLING THEM THAT THE TIMELINE FOR CONSTRUCTION WAS ANYWHERE FROM FIVE YEARS TO 18 YEARS.

SO NOW THAT WE HAVE AN ALIGNMENT WITH THE PARCEL OWNERS THAT WANT TO SEE THIS EXPEDITED, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT A TIME FRAME THAT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO THAT 3 TO 5 YEAR EVEN MINUS ON THAT.

SO IT'S WORKING.

I THINK THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT THIS IS WE'RE IN MEETINGS WITH THESE DEVELOPERS, SO IT'S NOT THE DEVELOPER COMING TO US, IT'S NOT THE CITY GOING TO THEM.

THE DENSITY HAS BEEN A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

SO THE DENSITY MIGHT COME FORTH BY THE DEVELOPER IS 4000 UNITS AND WE SAY, NO, WE WANT 6000 UNITS, BUT MAYBE WE CAN AGREE ON 5000 UNITS OR 4500 UNITS.

SO IT'S NICE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION BEFORE APPLICATIONS COME IN WHERE WE KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN THEY COME IN.

SO I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, TO ADDRESS THAT, I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE PLAN FOR WHEN WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION, BUT I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE DOING THE PLANNING EFFORT AND WE'RE ONE STEP CLOSER TO GETTING A BUILDABLE DESIGN.

SO KEEP KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HAVE PLANNING.

THE PLANNING WILL HOPEFULLY CO-CONVENE WITH THE DESIGN SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COMPLETE THE PLANNING BEFORE DESIGN CAN START MAKING MOMENTUM.

SO WE CAN DO DESIGN AND PLANNING AT THE SAME TIME AND THEN CONSTRUCTION WILL BE THEREAFTER.

SO I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT WE CAN BE DOING CONSTRUCTION HERE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

IF THAT'S A FAIR ANSWER, I'M GOING TO HOLD ON TO THAT OPTIMISM MYSELF.

SO THANK YOU, DAVID.

EXCELLENT. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCIL? WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 13, WILDLAND FIRE PREPAREDNESS

[13. Wildland Fire Preparedness Briefing Presentation of Wildland Fire Management's objectives and initiatives in relation to wildfire preparedness for the City of Flagstaff, its residents, and resources. ]

BRIEFING.

OOPS, NOW I'VE DONE IT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. VICE MAYOR.

COUNCIL. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR 2023 WILDLAND FIRE PREPAREDNESS UPDATE.

TYPICALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PREPAREDNESS, WE TALK ABOUT THAT IN A CYCLE.

USUALLY HISTORICALLY, OVER THE LAST 10 TO 20 YEARS, WE'VE WE'VE DONE THIS PRESENTATION IN EARLY TO LATE MAY, RIGHT ALONG THIS CALENDAR LINE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE'RE COMING INTO FIRE SEASON, BUT WE'RE RECOGNIZING THAT A LOT OF THAT'S CHANGING, RIGHT? WE'RE GETTING ACTIVE FIRES ON THE COLLARS OF THOSE SEASONS THAT USED TO STILL BE PRETTY WET AND WOULDN'T CARRY FIRE.

LAST YEAR WE HAD THE TUNNEL FIRE IN LATE APRIL.

WE'VE HAD A REALLY WET WINTER.

WE'VE HAD A RAINY SPRING, BUT WE'RE COMING INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A DRYING TREND DEPENDING ON MONSOONS.

WE COULD BE CARRYING FIRE INTO THE FALL.

SO WITHIN THAT CYCLE WE HAVE PREPAREDNESS, MITIGATION, RESPONSE AND RECOVERY AND THOSE WOULD USUALLY BE SEASONAL, BUT NOW THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP WITH THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT, AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL VERY GRATEFUL TO BE HERE.

MITIGATION EFFORTS INCLUDE MANY PARTNERSHIPS IN TOWN, BUT WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE REPRESENTED WITH A FEW OF THOSE TONIGHT.

MYSELF, I'LL BE REPRESENTING THE CITY WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.

KATIE BROWN IS GOING TO BE UP HERE PRESENTING WITH ME AS WELL.

SHE'S WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SHE IS RANKED AS AN ENGINEER/PARAMEDIC, AND SHE HAS AN AUXILIARY DUTY WHERE SHE SERVES EXCUSE ME, ON A TYPE ONE SOUTHWEST INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM AND THE PLANNING SECTION.

NOW, TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION, AS I GET INTO THE INITIAL PART OF IT, WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER SOME OF OUR RESPONSE INITIATIVES, THINGS THAT WE TYPICALLY DO THIS TIME OF YEAR.

JESSE CAUSER, US FOREST SERVICE FLAGSTAFF RANGER DISTRICT FIRE PLANNER, IS GOING TO GET INTO A SEASONAL OUTLOOK, BUT THE BUT THE PRESENTATION ITSELF IS GOING TO BE FRAMED AROUND A REALLY NEAT EVACUATION TOOL THAT'S GOING TO BE PUBLIC FACING AND ABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO INTERFACE WITH BY THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION AND A PRESS RELEASE IS COMING OUT TOMORROW. KATIE BROWN WAS ON THE FRONT END OF DEVELOPING THAT, AND THAT'S WHY SHE'S HERE TONIGHT.

SHE'S GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB OF GIVING US A HISTORY AND SHOWING US HOW THAT PRODUCT WORKS, AND THEN WE'VE GOT JOE WEATHERSBY.

VERY THANKFUL TO HAVE JOE HERE.

HE'S THE NORTHEAST DIVISION MANAGER WITH APS, AND WE WILL HAVE JANET DEAN HERE AS WELL TO INTRODUCE JOE.

SO WHEN WE GET INTO WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT, THERE'S THREE SECTIONS THAT MAKE UP THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IT'S OPERATIONS, COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION AND ADMINISTRATION WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT WERE HOUSED WITHIN COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, WHICH THE DEFINITION FOR THAT SIMPLY IS IDENTIFYING RISK THREATS AND HAZARDS AND EVALUATING STRATEGIES TO LESSEN THEIR IMPACT.

WE USE THAT USING THE FIVE E'S OF COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION REPRESENTED IN THE GRAPHIC ON THE SCREEN.

WE EDUCATE THROUGH OUR FIRE WISE PROGRAM, THROUGH COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND MEDIA ENGAGEMENT.

WE ENFORCE AND WE ENGINEER OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT THROUGH THE COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN AND OUR WUI CODE, OUR WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE CODE.

WE OFFER ECONOMIC INCENTIVES, INCLUDING GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO TREAT ON PRIVATE LAND, AND OF COURSE WE STEWARD THE LARGER OVERALL INCENTIVE TO NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE LOCAL ECONOMY THROUGH CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRE, AND THEN OF COURSE, COMING AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, WE RESPOND.

GOT TO REMEMBER TO...

THERE WE GO.

SO OUR RESPONSE PLAN, IT INCLUDES OPERATIONAL AND ON DUTY PERSONNEL.

RIGHT. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO RESPOND TO A WILDLAND FIRE 24 HOURS A DAY WHEN THE WEATHER GETS HOT AND DRY ENOUGH, IT'S NOT OUT OF THE NORM TO RESPOND TO A FIRE AND SUPPRESS IT AT NIGHT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

RIGHT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO GET ON PRETTY EARLY.

SO OUR LINE PERSONNEL AND WHO WE CALL CITY CREW, ONE WHO WORKS FOR WORKS FOR US WITHIN WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT, THOSE ARE OUR MAIN SUPPRESSION RESOURCES, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND TO A WILDLAND FIRE, THE US FOREST SERVICE, DFFM, THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, SURROUNDING FIRE DISTRICTS TYPICALLY ARE ALL GOING TO RESPOND TO THAT SCENE, AND THAT GOES BOTH WAYS. WE WORK ON EACH OTHER'S GROUND AND ACROSS THOSE JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES ALL THE TIME.

OUR DAILY PREPAREDNESS, AND JESSE'S GOING TO GET INTO A LOT OF WHAT THIS MEANS WITH THE SEASONAL OUTLOOK.

SO I'LL JUST TOUCH ON IT IS MAINLY DRIVEN BY WEATHER AND RESOURCE INDICES.

SO FOR US, YOU KNOW, A RED FLAG WARNING IS A REALLY KEY TERM IN WILDLAND FIRE.

BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT'S THREE COMPONENTS.

IT'S GOING TO BE THE DRY BULB TEMPERATURE, THE RELATIVE HUMIDITY AND WIND COMING INTO JUNE BEFORE WE COME INTO THE MONSOON SEASON, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THE

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DRY BULB, THE HIGHER TEMPERATURE AND THE LOW RELATIVE HUMIDITY.

SO IF WE HAVE A WIND OVER 25 MILES AN HOUR INTERNALLY, WE HAVE A POLICY WHERE WE STAFF SEVERITY RESOURCES.

SO WE WILL PUT AN EXTRA 1 TO 3 ENGINES OUT PATROLLING THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THAT EXTRA FOOTPRINT IN TOWN, AND THE FOREST SERVICE ALSO HAS A VERY ROBUST, WHAT THEY CALL SEVERITY STAFFING AND PRE-POSITIONED PROGRAM.

PREPAREDNESS LEVELS ARE BASICALLY DICTATED BY CONDITIONS OF THE FUEL.

SO LIKE RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE SEEING THE GRASS STARTING TO DRY OUT BURNING CHARACTERISTICS.

HOW FAST IS FIRE MOVING THROUGH THAT GRASS FIRE ACTIVITY? AND LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT RESOURCE AVAILABILITY.

LUCKILY IN THE SOUTHWEST, OUR FIRE SEASON AND AGAIN, THAT'S CHANGING, BUT IT USUALLY OCCURS FIRST, YOU KNOW, BEFORE CALIFORNIA, THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST, THE GREAT BASIN. SO WE'RE NOT COMPETING FOR THOSE RESOURCES NEARLY AS MUCH, AND SO A LOT OF TIMES THE FOREST SERVICE, LARGER FEDERAL AGENCIES, THEY WILL DO WHAT'S CALLED PRE-POSITION THOSE RESOURCES. SO IF THERE'S FIVE HOTSHOT CREWS IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WITH NOTHING TO DO, THEY'LL BRING THEM DOWN HERE AND THEY'LL STAGE THEM IN FLAGSTAFF AND YOU'LL SEE THOSE GUYS DRIVING AROUND TOWN.

AVIATION RESOURCES, SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY TO BOIL IT DOWN TO ITS SIMPLEST TERMS, AGAIN, SOUTHWEST FIRE SEASON BEING FIRST ON THE CALENDAR.

THEY'RE CLOSE AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE.

THEY'RE TYPICALLY IN THE LARGER METRO HUBS, PHOENIX, TUCSON, ALBUQUERQUE, AND THERE'S A LARGE TANKER BASE IN PRESCOTT.

A POINT THAT WE WANT TO BE CLEAR ON, THOUGH, IS SUPPRESSION VERSUS SUPPORT.

AVIATION RESOURCES ARE NOT MEANT TO SUPPRESS A WILDLAND FIRE ALWAYS AND FOREVER AND EXCUSE THE INDUSTRY JARGON, BUT WILDLAND FIRE IS EXTINGUISHED AND PUT OUT WITH BOOTS ON THE GROUND, FIREFIGHTERS USING HAND TOOLS, MIXING COOL, WET MINERAL SOIL WITH HOT BURNING MATERIALS.

SO ANY TIME LIKE RIGHT NOW, THE MILLER FIRE HAS TWO HELICOPTERS SUPPORTING THE OPERATIONAL EFFORTS THAT ARE STAGED OUT OF SEDONA.

SO ANY TIME THAT YOU SEE A BUCKET DROP ON TV, THERE'S ALWAYS FIREFIGHTERS ON THE GROUND.

AFTER THAT WATER OR THAT RETARDANT IS DELIVERED, THEY'RE COMING BACK IN AND THEY'RE MIXING ALL THAT STUFF UP TO EXTINGUISH THE FIRE.

SO IT'S NOT A TRUE SUPPRESSION RESOURCE IN FLAGSTAFF, ANY TIME WE HAVE A LARGE FIRE, MOST RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, THE MUSEUM TUNNEL PIPELINE, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE WIND DRIVEN EVENTS.

IF THE WINDS ARE THAT HIGH, WE CAN'T FLY.

SO SO SUPPRESSION OR I'M SORRY.

SO AVIATION RESOURCES.

I THINK THE BEST WAY TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE THAT WOULD BE OUR VERY TEMPERAMENTAL.

WE ALWAYS WANT TO RELY ON OUR ON THE GROUND EFFORTS TO EXTINGUISH WILDLAND FIRE.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME INTRODUCE THE TOPIC.

I WILL BE BACK SHORTLY TO PRESENT SOME MORE.

AT THIS POINT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JESSE CAUSER, FOREST FIRE PLANNER FOR THE COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF OLTROGGE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

VICE MAYOR. COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

SO PART OF MY JOB AS THE FIRE PLANNER FOR THE FOREST IS TO MANAGE A LOT OF THE ANALYTICAL PIECES OF THE FUELS, WEATHER AND A LOT OF THE COMPONENTS THAT GO INTO OUR FIRE DANGER RATING THAT INFORM HOW WE STAFF, AND SO I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE RELEVANT PIECES TO TONIGHT AND WHAT MY DISCUSSION WILL BE HERE ABOUT THE SEASONAL OUTLOOK.

SO I WANT TO TOUCH BASE BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS, THE RELEVANT PIECES GOING INTO THIS IS THE MOISTURE THAT WE'VE HAD THIS LAST YEAR, RIGHT? WE HAD A BANNER WINTER WITH 163, I BELIEVE 165IN OF SNOW, ALMOST 400IN OF SNOW UP AT SNOWBOWL, WHICH IS A [INAUDIBLE] THAT REALLY HELPS TO DRIVE THE CONVERSATION ON HOW MUCH MOISTURE WE'VE HAD AND WHAT THAT DOES TO THE FUELS IN THE AREA.

SO THE SLIDE THAT'S UP NOW REFERENCES. THE MOGOLLON, THE FIRE DANGER RATING AREA.

SO IT'S BASICALLY THE PINE ON THE TOP OF THE RIM, AND SO THIS IS A FIRE DANGER RATING AREA THAT WE USE WITH OUR REMOTE AUTOMATED WEATHER STATIONS TO TRACK ALL THE WEATHER, ALL THE INDICES AND HELP INFORM THOSE CONVERSATIONS ON ON THE FIRE, WHAT FIRE DANGER RATINGS THAT WE START WE ASSIGN TO ANY GIVEN PERIOD.

SO THE SMOKEY BEAR'S [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT THE LOW MODERATE, HIGH FIRE DANGER RATINGS.

SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW REPRESENTING 23.

NOW, GRANTED, WE'VE HAD A TON MORE SNOW.

THE WAY THAT THESE MODELS AND THE WAY THESE INSTRUMENTS GATHER, THE GATHER THE MOISTURE, IT'S NOT QUITE REPRESENTATIVE OF HOW MANY INCHES OF MOISTURE WE'VE REALLY HAD, BUT IN THE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, IT'S A GREAT REPRESENTATION.

BETWEEN THE GRAY, THE BLUE AND THE YELLOW ON HOW MUCH MOISTURE WE'VE TRULY RECEIVED THIS YEAR.

SO ALL THAT MOISTURE GOES IN TO DRIVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT DROUGHTS RIGHT WE'VE LONG BEEN IN AN EXTENDED DROUGHT IN THE AREA AND REALLY KIND OF SUFFERED FROM A LOT OF THOSE AILS, BUT THIS SLIDE HELPS TO IDENTIFY AND ARTICULATE

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THE SNOWPACK THAT WE RECEIVED THIS YEAR THROUGH ALL THIS MOISTURE AND THEN HOW THAT CORRELATES TO THE ACTUAL DROUGHT MONITORING.

SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THE AREAS OF BLUE ARE REALLY HIGH PERCENTAGES OF SNOWPACK ACROSS THE WEST ALL THE WAY DOWN INTO THE GREEN THAT ARE THAT ARE LESS AREAS OF SNOWPACK.

SO LOWER PERCENTAGES, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT THERE HOW THAT CORRELATES TO THE DROUGHT MONITORING AND WHERE EXACTLY FOLKS ARE SITTING WITHIN THEIR AREAS AND WHAT THEY'RE BEING CONSIDERED FOR, WHETHER THEY HAVE ARE EXPERIENCING DROUGHT CONDITIONS OR NOT.

SO ZOOMING IN ARIZONA HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT LUCKILY IT'S A NICE THING THAT WE'RE OUTSIDE OF OF THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS NOW WITH RECEIVING PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SNOWPACK, NRCS DATA THERE SHOWING THAT ROUGHLY OVER 250% OF SNOWPACK ON THE PEAKS AND THEN REALLY DRAMATICALLY ALONG THE RIM EDGE WITH SOME OF THOSE WATERSHEDS SEEING UPWARDS OF 600% OF SNOWPACK.

SO A GREAT STROKE FOR ALL OF US, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE SPRING LAST YEAR WE WERE IN A VERY DIFFERENT PLACE IN APRIL THAN WE ARE THIS APRIL.

MOVING FORWARD, THOUGH, AND THE REASON I BRING UP ALL OF THIS STUFF IS IF EVERYONE CAN REMEMBER BACK, 2010 WAS A RATHER HEAVY SNOW YEAR.

2019 WAS ANOTHER PRETTY HEAVY SNOW YEAR, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO A CORRELATION TO BE DRAWN THERE IN 2010, WE HAD THE SCHULTZ FIRE AND IN 2019 WE HAD THE MUSEUM FIRE.

SO WET WINTERS DO NOT ALWAYS DO NOT ALWAYS GUARANTEE NO FIRE SEASON.

SO IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THOSE WET WINTERS TO KIND OF STAY.

FIRE SEASON OFF, BUT BEING IN THE SOUTHWEST, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO DRY, AND DEPENDING ON THE WIND THAT MAY COME IN IN THE SPRING, THAT COULD REALLY ACCELERATE THINGS, AND SO VERY FORTUNATE THIS SPRING TO BE SITTING IN A DIFFERENT PLACE THAN WE WERE LAST YEAR.

LAST YEAR, WE HAD PRETTY SIGNIFICANT WIND IMPACTS THAT LED TO BOTH THE TUNNEL AND THE PIPELINE FIRES AND SOME OTHER PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EVENTS ACROSS THE SOUTHWEST , BUT THEN I WANTED TO ARTICULATE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WHAT DOES THIS WHAT DOES THIS START TO LOOK LIKE? AND I THINK WE ARE TRACKING WITH SOME OF THE SEASONAL TRENDS THAT WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE ALL THIS MOISTURE, BUT WE'RE ALSO STARTING TO HEAD INTO THE SUMMER AND SO SOME OF THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PRODUCTS HERE CAN HELP ARTICULATE THAT FROM A TEMPERATURE STANDPOINT.

ON THE LEFT THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT WE PROBABLY WILL END UP IT WILL GET WARM.

YOU KNOW, IT'S SUMMERTIME IN THE SOUTHWEST AND THAT WE WILL SEE WE'RE KIND OF ON THAT CUSP OF OF NOT NORMAL, BUT WE POTENTIALLY COULD GET WARMER THAN WE NORMALLY THAN AIR QUOTES NORMAL AND THAT THE MOISTURE THAT IT COULD BE A LITTLE BELOW, AND SO COLLOQUIALLY WE ALL KNOW THAT A WET SPRING CAN INFLUENCE OUR MONSOON MOISTURE, AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE STARTING TO WONDER HOW THE MONSOON IS TRULY GOING TO SHOW UP, BECAUSE WITH SUCH A WET SPRING THAT WE HAD, WE COULD SEE A LATER MONSOON, AND SO THAT'S IT'S GOOD THAT IS SUPPORTED BY SOME OF THE SCIENCE AND FOLKS THAT ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS.

ONE OF THE PRODUCTS THAT WE USE A LOT IS FROM THE NATIONAL THE NATIONAL NATIONAL INTERAGENCY FIRE CENTER EXCUSE ME, THAT THEY PRODUCE A SEASONAL FIRE OUTLOOK DOCUMENT AND THIS WHOLE SET OF RESOURCES, AND SO WE TEND TO WE TEND TO USE THOSE AS WELL.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THAT OUT OF THIS YEAR'S ASSESSMENTS THAT I THINK ARE REALLY PERTINENT FOR ALL OF US RIGHT NOW, THERE'S THREE BULLETS ON THE SCREEN THERE THAT EARLY SUMMER, POTENTIAL FOR SPRING, LIKE WEAK EL NINO.

SO WE DID SEE THAT THIS SPRING.

WE HAD A VERY WET SPRING.

A LOT OF US STARTED TO WONDER IF THAT WAS THE ONSET OF THE MONSOON, BUT WE WERE ASSURED THAT IT WASN'T.

THAT WAS JUST THAT TROPICAL SYSTEM THAT CAME IN.

THE SECOND BELOW NORMAL SIGNIFICANT FIRE POTENTIAL IS ANTICIPATED ACROSS NORTHERN ARIZONA.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE'RE JUST NOT ANTICIPATING LARGE FIRES BECAUSE OF ALL THE MOISTURE THAT'S SEEING, AND THEN IT DID TOUCH ON THAT.

THE MONSOON MAY ARRIVE LATE IN ARIZONA.

SO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT SHAKES OUT, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ALWAYS KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FOLKS TEND TO FALL BACK ON, THAT IF THERE IS A WET SPRING THAT WE COULD SEE A DELAYED MONSOON. SO FINGERS CROSSED THAT WE DON'T BECAUSE I THINK EVERYONE'S ENJOYING THE MOISTURE, AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTINUE TO STAVE OFF SOME OF THE SOME OF THE LARGE FIRE ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST YEAR, AND THEN FINALLY, THIS JUST KIND OF HELPS WRAP UP THE POINT AND HELPS ILLUSTRATE IT AGAIN, THAT THROUGH THOSE NATIONAL PRODUCTS, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE SITTING IN THE NORMAL RANGE, THAT THERE'S NOT THE EXPECTATION OF INCREASED LARGE FIRE POTENTIAL AND I WISH THERE WAS MORE GREEN ON THE MAP.

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I THINK EVERYONE ALWAYS DOES.

WE'D RATHER SEE LOWER FIRE POTENTIAL, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE SITTING IN THE NORMAL RANGE AND FOR THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, FOR JUNE AND JULY.

SO WE'LL KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED THAT THE MOISTURE STAYS AND THAT THE WINDS DON'T INCREASE AND BECOME PROBLEMATIC.

SO THANK YOU.

GREAT. THANK YOU. JESSE. GREAT TO HAVE THAT VERY INFORMATIVE RESOURCE AT OUR DISPOSAL.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT OUTLOOK.

VERY THOROUGH. NEXT, IT'S OUR PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE JANET DEAN AGAIN WITH APS AND SHE'LL INTRODUCE OUR NEXT PRESENTER.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK BEFORE YOU.

IT'S BEEN, WHAT, MAYBE 30 MINUTES, BUT IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE, AND I'M REALLY PLEASED AND THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TONIGHT DURING THIS WILDFIRE PRESENTATION, BECAUSE WILDFIRE PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE FOR APS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEART.

IT'S SOMETHING WE THINK ABOUT YEAR ROUND.

WE WORK TOWARDS YEAR ROUND AND WE WANT TO WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS HOW SERIOUSLY WE TAKE THIS AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.

SO WITH THAT, THE BULK OF THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT WILL BE GIVEN BY JOE WEATHERSBY.

JOE IS OUR NEW NORTHEAST DIVISION MANAGER.

MANY OF YOU KNEW NEIL TRAVER, WHO'S MOVED ON TO ANOTHER ROLE WITH US WITH APS, JOHN HARO BEFORE HIM.

SO YOU ALL KNOW, KNEW, KNEW THOSE TWO GENTLEMEN.

JOE IS NOW OUR DIVISION MANAGER AND A FORMER FIREFIGHTER.

SO HE TOO, IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS TOPIC.

SO THANK YOU, AND I'M HERE TO HELP SUPPORT HIM.

THANK YOU, JANET, AND THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'VE BEEN WITH APS 22 YEARS AND IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CAPACITIES, AND ONE OF THOSE CAPACITIES WAS IN THE EARLY YEARS OF OUR FIRE MITIGATION PROGRAM.

UTILITIES ALWAYS DIDN'T FOCUS IN THE FIRE SPACE LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE, AND THAT WAS NATIONWIDE UNTIL SOME LESSONS WERE LEARNED, AND LUCKILY THOSE LESSONS WEREN'T LEARNED HERE IN ARIZONA, BUT THEY WERE LEARNED AND TO SOME COUNTERPARTS TO THE WEST AND SO ON, THAT FIRE DANGER IS REAL AND IT IS THE UTILITIES' RESPONSIBILITY TO BE PREPARED.

APS HAS ALWAYS HAD SOME LEVEL OF PREPARATION AROUND NOT STARTING FIRES, BUT LESS STRINGENT OPERATIONS AROUND HOW TO JUST MITIGATE THEM RIGHT, IN OUR DAY TO DAY WORK AND OUR PLANNING, HOW DO WE DO THAT TO MAKE FIRE TOP OF MIND? AS JANET MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE A PLAN.

OUR WILDFIRE PREVENTION PLAN CENTERS AROUND OUR VEGETATION MANAGEMENT.

YOU'VE SEEN OR I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, OUR TRUCKS OR OUR CONTRACTORS RUNNING AROUND TRIMMING TREES, REMOVING TREES NEAR OUR POWER LINES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY CERTIFIED ARBORISTS WHO ARE TRACK CERTIFIED, WHICH IS THAT'S A RISK ASSESSMENT CERTIFICATION TO THESE TREES ARE IN SOME SOME WAY TOO CLOSE TO THE LINES WILL GROW INTO THE LINES BEFORE THE NEXT CYCLE YEAR WHICH ARE USUALLY 4 TO 5 YEARS OR CAN FALL INTO THE LINES HAVE SOME DEFECT INVOLVED IN THEM THAT THEY CAN BECOME A HAZARD DURING THE MIDDLE OF WINTER WHEN THESE TREES COME DOWN, WHICH THEY DO IN THE WINTER TIME WITH SNOW LOAD.

FIRE ISN'T MUCH OF A THOUGHT OR A CONCERN AT THAT POINT, BUT THESE SAME TREES THAT ARE WEAKENED THROUGHOUT THE FIRE SEASON, WE PLAN OUR PATROLS, IF YOU WILL.

AFTER THESE TIMES AND THESE HIGH, HEAVILY FORESTED AREAS TO CATCH THOSE TREES THAT COULD HAVE HAD THAT FATIGUE.

THAT IS PART OF OUR DETAILED LINE INSPECTION, WHICH WE ALSO DO WITH OUR CERTIFIED JOURNEYMAN, OUR LINE, OUR ELECTRICALLY QUALIFIED LINE WORKERS WHO WILL GO OUT AND PATROL THESE LINES. WE CALL THEM FIRE MITIGATION PATROLS FOR THAT SAME PURPOSE.

THANK YOU, JANET, TO NOW NOT JUST LOOK AT THE VEGETATION, BUT ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHAT DID IT TAKE THROUGH THE WINTER OR THROUGH A SUMMER OR HIGH WIND EVENT? IS IT SECURE? DOES IT NEED ANY ATTENTION AT ALL OR IS IT IN GOOD WORKING ORDER? AGAIN, DURING OUR ANNUAL ELEVATED FIRE RISK.

SO WE LOOK AT THESE LINES VERY, VERY REGULARLY IN HIGH FIRE RISK AREAS.

SO DURING ELEVATED FIRE CONDITIONS, MUCH AS WHAT CHIEF AND OUR FRIEND FROM THE FOREST SERVICE HAS MENTIONED, WE'RE OUT THERE LOOKING TO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AGAIN AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AGAIN AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AGAIN UNTIL WE HAVE A VERY HIGH SENSE OF CONFIDENCE THAT THESE LINES ARE IN A SAFE CAPACITY TO OPERATE IN THESE ELEVATED FIRE CONDITIONS OR IN THESE ELEVATED FIRE AREAS WHERE FIRES ARE A REAL DANGER.

ANOTHER PROGRAM WHICH ISN'T BRAND BRAND NEW, 4 TO 5 YEARS OLD, IS DSAP, WHICH IS DEFENSIBLE SPACE AROUND POLES.

SO YOU'LL SEE OUR SAME CREWS GOING OUT AND NOW CLEARING TEN FEET AROUND POLES THAT HAVE EQUIPMENT ON THESE.

SO EQUIPMENT ON THE POLES THAT CAN GENERATE A SPARK FOR ANY REASON.

WE TRY TO CLEAR TEN FEET AT THE BASE OF THAT POLE.

WHAT WE HAVE FOUND TO PLEASANTLY SURPRISE HAS BEEN IS DURING ACTUAL FIRE EVENTS WHERE FIRES DID NOT COME FROM OUR LINE BUT CAME INTO OUR LINE, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WAS PROTECTED

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BY THAT SAME DEFENSIBLE SPACE AROUND THAT POLE.

SO IT WORKED BOTH WAYS IN A LOT OF MANNER AND A LOT OF MANNERS.

SO AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THAT, WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER PROTOCOLS WHICH I THINK TOUCH OUR CUSTOMERS A LITTLE MORE.

THANK YOU, AND THAT IS WE HAVE DEVICES ON OUR LINES THAT WE CALL RE-CLOSERS.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY ARE, THEY'RE DEVICES THAT WHEN THEY SEE A FAULT.

SO LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, LIGHTNING STRUCK AN ARRESTOR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND THE LINE SEES THAT.

YOU SEE AN OUTAGE FOR JUST A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, SECONDS TO A FEW MINUTES, AND THEN YOUR POWER COMES BACK ON.

WELL, THESE RECLOSERS ARE THE DEVICES THAT SEE THAT AND THEN TRY THE LINE, IF YOU WILL, RE-ENERGIZE THE LINE DURING ELEVATED FIRE CONDITIONS.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

WE CAN'T, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT FAULT WAS.

SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THESE DEVICES TO ALLOW THAT [INAUDIBLE], THAT ADDITIONAL TEST, IF YOU WILL, ON THE LINES, UNTIL WE PATROL THAT WITH SOMEBODY BOOTS ON THE GROUND, MUCH LIKE CHIEF WAS MENTIONING, FIRES ARE NOT EXTINGUISHED BY THAT EQUIPMENT OR AERIAL.

THEY ARE BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

SAME THING WITH FROM AN APS STANDPOINT IS WE ARE NOT GOING TO RE-ENERGIZE THESE LINES UNTIL WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THEY'RE CLEAR THEY'RE SAFE, BUT THAT TAKES ADDITIONAL TIME.

SO WHERE YOU COULD HAVE SEEN AN OUTAGE FOR 30S TO FIVE MINUTES, IT MAY BE UP TO AN HOUR, IT MAY BE MORE THAN AN HOUR.

YOU KNOW, THE TERRAIN ISN'T ALWAYS FAVORABLE, AND WHEN WE ARE EITHER DRIVING OR WALKING AND REVIEWING THESE LINES, TO BE CERTAIN THAT THEY CAN BE RE-ENERGIZED, THAT DOES TAKE THAT ADDITIONAL TIME.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE TO CONVEY DURING THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE, IN FACT, THAT IS THE NOTIFICATION TO THE CUSTOMERS THAT YOU COULD AND MORE THAN LIKELY WILL SEE LONGER OUTAGES DURING ELEVATED FIRE CONDITIONS IN ELEVATED FIRE AREAS SUCH AS FLAGSTAFF.

IT'S A HEAVILY WOODED AREA.

WE HAVE OUR LOCAL TROUBLEMEN WHO ARE AVAILABLE AND PREPARED TO RESPOND 24/7 AND THOSE ARE THE GUYS THAT WILL BE OUT LOOKING AT THOSE LINES DURING THOSE CONDITIONS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS LIKE TO ASK IS IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.

RIGHT. OUR POWER LINES, WE GET MULTIPLE CALLS ABOUT LOW LINES LEANING POLES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THOSE AREN'T BURDENS.

THOSE ARE BLESSINGS. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE EYES EVERYWHERE YOU SEE IT.

WE DIDN'T. WE LOVE GOING OUT AND TAKING A LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE THEN IT'S THAT ADDITIONAL ITEM. WE CAN CHECK OFF THE LIST THAT'S EITHER SAFE OR, HEY, WE NEED TO REPAIR THIS.

A LOT OF THE TIMES IT IS IN OUR FACILITIES, IT'S TELECOM WHICH RUN ON THE SAME POLES, BUT WE'D RATHER BE CERTAIN THAT'S THE CASE.

SO MY ASK TO YOU IS, YOU KNOW, TO HELP CONVEY THE MESSAGING FROM OUR ELEVATED FIRE CONDITIONS FOR THE DURATIONS OF THE OUTAGE OR FOR LONGER DURATION OF OUTAGES AS WELL AS THE HE APPROACH, IF YOU WILL, THE STRATEGY OF SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.

ALL THE EYES RUNNING AROUND ARE MUCH MORE, I PROMISE YOU, MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN JUST OURS.

SO WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH. JUST BRIEFLY.

I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND GIVE VOICE TO MY OWN EXPERIENCE COMING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS PREPARATION IS, AND THE INVESTMENT IS VERY MUCH WORTH IT.

LAST SUMMER, I SPENT SOME SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA IN BETWEEN QUINCY AND PORTOLA AND LASSEN NATIONAL PARK AND WAS JUST REALLY, REALLY STRUCK BY THE DEVASTATION OF THE OBLITERATING FIRES ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH THOSE MOUNTAINS FOR HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF MILES.

ENTIRE TOWNS COMPLETELY WIPED OUT.

BIG SIGNS WITH LAWYER NAMES ON THEM.

CALL US. PG&E WAS MENTIONED EVERYWHERE.

SO I THINK THAT'S MAYBE ONE OF THE CAUTIONARY TALES YOU WERE REFERRING TO.

THAT'S MORE RECENT, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE VOICE TO THAT PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I HAD IN DEPTH TRAVELING THROUGH AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY INCINERATED AND DEVASTATED FOR GENERATIONS TO COME BECAUSE THAT PREPARATION WASN'T IN PLACE AND AVAILABLE AND THOSE RESOURCES WEREN'T THERE ON THE GROUND AND THE RESPONSIBILITY WASN'T TAKEN IN TIME.

SO REALLY GREAT TO GET THIS UPDATE AND TO FEEL COMFORTED, AT LEAST AT A LOWER LEVEL, THAT THESE MITIGATION EFFORTS ARE IN PLACE, AND HOPEFULLY WHEN THOSE PROBLEMS ARISE, WE CAN PUT THEM OUT OR AT LEAST ADDRESS THEM VERY, VERY EFFECTIVELY AND QUICKLY.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THANK YOU FOR THE INVESTMENT THE APS IS MAKING AND FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THE ISSUE, THE CONCERN AND THE RESPONSIBILITY.

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ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

VICE MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT EXAMPLE.

MYSELF, JESSE AND KATIE, NEIL, SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM, WE ALL ENGAGE ON INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS AT THE TYPE ONE LEVEL, AND WE'VE EXPERIENCED THOSE LARGE FIRES IN THAT REGION AND I FEEL I GOT TO MEET JOE THIS AFTERNOON AND FOUND OUT AS A PART OF THE TRAJECTORY FOR HIS CAREER, HE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH BUCKEYE FIRE, RECENTLY FOUND OUT MY FIRST SUPERVISOR ON A HOTSHOT CREW IS ONE OF THEIR MITIGATION SPECIALISTS IN PRESCOTT, SO I'M A LITTLE BIASED, BUT I THINK APS RECRUITS REALLY WELL AND WE'VE ALL BEEN ON THE ROAD. AS UNFORTUNATE AS THAT IS, WE'VE EXPERIENCED A BAD DAY SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THAT HELPS US BETTER RESPOND AND PLAN HERE AT HOME.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN TO JOE, JANET AND JESSE.

MOVING ON, WE'RE GOING TO NOW MOVE INTO WHAT I MENTIONED BRIEFLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE CALL OUR EVACUATION ZONE MAP, AND KATIE BROWN IS HERE TO PRESENT ON THAT.

I'LL JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTRODUCTION.

SO WE'VE DISCUSSED SOME OF OUR EXPECTATIONS AROUND THE SEASONAL OUTLOOK AND OUR RESPONSE , AND WE'VE GOT AN IDEA OF HOW WE THINK THINGS ARE GOING TO TURN OUT RIGHT, BUT BASED ON WHEN THE MONSOON ARRIVES, EXTENDED FIRE SEASON, ALL THAT, THAT COULD CHANGE AND WE WILL CERTAINLY COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THAT INTO THE FALL AND WINTER, BUT THIS TOOL WAS DEVELOPED IN A SHORTENED TIMELINE.

IT TOOK ROUGHLY FIVE MONTHS FROM THE FIRST TIME THAT WE WERE BEGINNING TO HAVE INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS HERE AT THE HOME UNIT TO TODAY, WHERE IT IS NOW FORWARD FACING FOR PUBLIC USE AND WE HAVE A PRESS RELEASE SCHEDULED TO GO OUT ABOUT IT TOMORROW.

SO VERY EXCITING TOOL I FEEL AS A PROGRAM I'VE SAID THIS AND AGAIN, EXCUSE THE JARGON, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT REALLY MOVES THE NEEDLE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND PREPAREDNESS.

KATIE BROWN AGAIN IS AS AN AUXILIARY DUTY SERVES AND IS ROSTERED ON A TYPE ONE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM, WHICH IS A VERY COMPETITIVE PROCESS.

SHE WORKS IN THE PLANNING SECTION, WHICH I'LL LET HER GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KATIE.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS KATIE BROWN.

I WORK AS AN ENGINEER, PARAMEDIC FOR MY DAY JOB, AND THEN I ALSO WORK COLLATERAL DUTIES ON INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS WITHIN THE PLANNING SECTION.

SO I WORK AS A PLANNING SECTION CHIEF AND A SITUATION UNIT LEADER ON TEAMS. IN A NUTSHELL, THOSE ROLES ARE TO GATHER INTELLIGENCE, MAKE SENSE OF THAT INFORMATION, AND THEN DISSEMINATE IT TO ALL THE INTERESTED PARTIES, WHICH IS EVERYONE FROM INCIDENT MANAGEMENT, TEAM MEMBERS, OPERATORS ON THE GROUND, LOCAL AGENCY REPRESENTATIVES, AND THEN THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE SERVING.

SO THAT'S THE CONSISTENT THEME AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS WHOLE PRODUCT BEGAN.

SO THE EVOLUTION OF THE EVACUATION MAP STARTED WITH THE CALF CANYON AND HERMITS PEAK FIRE IN NEW MEXICO LAST YEAR.

I'M SURE EVERYONE HERE HEARD ABOUT THAT FIRE.

IT LASTED ALMOST FIVE MONTHS, APRIL THROUGH SEPTEMBER 2022, AND IT BECAME THE LARGEST FIRE IN NEW MEXICO STATE HISTORY.

SO ALMOST OVER 340,000 ACRES.

YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP HERE THAT SPANNED BASICALLY FROM SANTA FE TO TAOS, A HUGE GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

IT SPANNED OVER FOUR COUNTIES AND TWO NATIONAL FORESTS, AND AT THE END OF IT, OVER 900 STRUCTURES WERE DESTROYED.

HUGELY IMPACTFUL, NUMEROUS INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS RESPONDED THROUGHOUT THE DURATION.

THE SOUTHWEST REGION HAS FIVE TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS, AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE TEAMS SERVED MULTIPLE ROLES ON THAT FIRE.

I PERSONALLY HAD TWO DIFFERENT ASSIGNMENTS ON THAT FIRE AND HAD SIGNIFICANT INVOLVEMENT WITH EVACUATION MAPPING, AND THAT IS HOW I BECAME INVOLVED WITH THIS PRODUCT.

SO THE HERMITS PEAK CALF CANYON FIRE WAS A RAPIDLY EMERGING, LARGELY WIND DRIVEN INCIDENT.

SO WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THOSE INCIDENTS ALREADY TONIGHT.

THIS WAS ABOUT THE EXTREME AS YOU COULD GET.

WE HAD MULTIPLE OPERATIONAL PERIODS WHERE THE FIRE MOVED MULTIPLE MILES IN A 12-HOUR PERIOD.

SO WHAT THAT CREATED WAS THOUSANDS OF EVACUATIONS ACROSS A HUGE AREA.

THAT PROVIDED SOME CHALLENGES FOR US BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY WE DRAFT MAPS AND THAT TAKES MULTIPLE HOURS AND WE USUALLY PUT OUT MAPS DAILY.

WHEN YOU HAVE EVACUATION STATUSES THAT ARE CHANGING WITHIN 30 MINUTES, MANY TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF A DAY, THAT TIME FRAME DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE.

SO FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSES, WE HAD TO FIND A NEW OPTION ON HOW TO SERVE PEOPLE.

SO AGAIN, ON A DAILY BASIS, WE HAD THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS ACROSS A LARGE GEOGRAPHIC AREA THAT WERE SERVED BY MULTIPLE AGENCIES, MULTIPLE SHERIFF'S OFFICES, MULTIPLE COUNTIES, MULTIPLE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, AND WE NEEDED TO FIND A WAY TO COORDINATE BETWEEN ALL OF THOSE AGENCIES.

A LOT OF THOSE RESIDENTS LIVED IN REMOTE AND RURAL AREAS, AND A LOT OF THOSE RESIDENTS DIDN'T HAVE INTERNET ACCESS.

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SO A LOT OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE GO TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE IN A REMOTE AREA, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT OPTION NECESSARILY TO SERVE THEM IN AN APPROPRIATE AND TIMELY FASHION. SO WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK FOR EVERYONE.

SO OUR OPTION AND OUR BEST SOLUTION WAS TO CREATE AN ONLINE WEB MAP.

SO I HAVE A SCREENSHOT HERE OF THAT ONLINE WEB MAP, AND IT'S HARD TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF THIS.

I'M GOING TO SCROLL BACK AGAIN TO THE FIRE PERIMETER THAT I SHOWED YOU ORIGINALLY AGAIN FROM ESSENTIALLY SANTA FE UP TO TAOS.

THIS MAP HERE, THE EVACUATION MAP.

SHOWS EVACUATION ZONES THAT ARE OVERLAID IN THAT SAME AREA.

SO I KNOW THAT THE TEXT IS SMALL, BUT ALL OF THESE WHITE TIDAL BLOCKS ARE EVACUATION ZONES, SO THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS ARE ENCOMPASSED WITHIN THOSE ZONES.

AFTER THIS, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS MAP.

SOME OF OUR SUCCESSES THAT WE FOUND WERE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE UPDATES IN REAL TIME.

SO AS EVACUATIONS EMERGED, WE WERE ABLE TO CHANGE THOSE ZONES, ESSENTIALLY WITH A CLICK OF A MOUSE ON BOTH AN INTERNAL FACING MAP AND A PUBLIC FACING MAP.

SO THE INTERNAL FACING MAP ALLOWED RESPONDERS AND THE TEAM TO UNDERSTAND WHICH ZONES WERE IN EVACUATION STATUSES, AND THEN THE PUBLIC COULD SEE THAT IMMEDIATELY.

SO AS LONG AS THEY HAD THAT MAP PULLED UP, THEY COULD SEE THAT.

THE ADDED BENEFIT WAS FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT LIVED IN RURAL AREAS WITHOUT INTERNET ACCESS.

FAMILY MEMBERS WHO DIDN'T EVEN LIVE IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO WERE ABLE TO DO THAT AND CALL THAT FAMILY MEMBER UP ON THE PHONE AND SAY, HEY, YOU'RE IN AN EVACUATION AREA.

THE OTHER BENEFIT OF A MAP LIKE THIS, YOU CAN SEE IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER IS A SEARCH BOX THAT PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY TYPE THEIR ADDRESS INTO, AND IT'LL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO YOUR LOCATION ON THE MAP TO SEE WHAT EVACUATION ZONE YOU'RE IN AND WHAT STATUS THAT ZONE IS IN.

SO A LOT OF BENEFITS THERE.

IT ALLOWED US TO COLLABORATE ON AN INTERAGENCY LEVEL IN REAL TIME, RAPID INFORMATION SHARING, AND THE PUBLIC RECEPTION WAS AMAZING.

SO WE HAD A LOT OF SPECULATION BECAUSE OF HOW WE TRADITIONALLY SHARED INFORMATION.

WE WEREN'T SURE HOW THE PUBLIC WAS GOING TO RECEIVE THIS, AND OVERWHELMINGLY WE GOT GREAT FEEDBACK BY THE END OF IT, DESPITE THE DEVASTATION THAT COMMUNITY WENT THROUGH, WE HAD A PUSH TO HAVE STATE, REGIONAL AND NATIONAL RECOGNITION THAT THIS PRODUCT IS NEEDED AS A CONSISTENT PRODUCT.

SO ACROSS INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS AT A STATE LEVEL, AT A COMMUNITY COMMUNITY LEVEL, THIS SERVED A FUNCTION THAT WAS VERY BENEFICIAL.

SO THAT LEADS ME TO WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT AND ASK FOR US TO DO THAT HERE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO WHAT I'M PULLING UP HERE NOW IS OUR EVACUATION MAP HERE FOR COCONINO COUNTY AND THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEND BIG THANKS TO COCONINO COUNTY FOR LAYING THE FRAMEWORK IN THE GROUND.

THE GROUNDWORK FOR THIS.

THEY HAD AN AWESOME FOUNDATION THAT WE COULD BUILD UPON TO DEVELOP THIS EVACUATION MAP.

SO THEY HAD PRE DEVELOPED SOME EVACUATION ZONES FOR THE COUNTY, BUT ALL OF THOSE WERE OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS.

SO USING TEAMWORK BETWEEN THE FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FLAGSTAFF FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIVISION, THE COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIVISION, AND THE GIS DEPARTMENTS FOR BOTH OF THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ALL WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE CREATED PRE-ESTABLISHED EVACUATION ZONES THAT COVER THE ENTIRE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE COLOR CODED.

SO WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT IDENTIFIERS, DIFFERENT COLOR SHADINGS, A NAME AND A NUMBER, AND THESE WERE CREATED WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON COMMONLY USED TERMS FOR NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PEOPLE LIVE.

SO THESE NAMES SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR TO ALL OF US AND TO THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE.

THEY'RE ALSO FAMILIAR TO THE RESPONDERS WHO RESPOND TO THESE AREAS, BOTH ON THE POLICE AND FIRE SIDES, AND THE BENEFIT OF THIS IS IN A RAPIDLY EMERGING INCIDENT. THE TUNNEL FIRE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE WHERE WE NEED TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON EVACUATIONS.

WE CAN DO THAT QUICKLY, AND THESE ZONES ARE ALSO TIED TO THE EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SORRY, THE COUNTY HAS SET UP.

SO THESE ARE TIED TO THOSE RESPONDERS CAN SAY THAT WE HAVE THIS ZONE THAT NEEDS TO BE EVACUATED IMMEDIATELY AND THAT CAN BE PULLED WITH NOTIFICATIONS AND THEN BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO ACTUALLY DO THOSE EVACUATIONS.

THE OTHER BENEFIT OF THIS IS IT ALLOWS RESIDENTS TO PREPLAN A LITTLE BIT.

SO IF YOU GIVE ME A MOMENT, I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY PULL UP THE MAP ITSELF SO THAT WE CAN INTERACT WITH IT A LITTLE BIT AND I CAN SHOW YOU SOME OF THE FUNCTIONALITY OF IT.

OKAY, SO THIS IS THE ACTUAL LIVE MAP, AND I'M GOING TO ZOOM WAY IN.

WHEN WE FIRST OPEN THE MAP, IT'S FOCUSED TO ENCOMPASS THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

SO YOU'LL SEE EVERY ZONE ACROSS THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.

AS YOU ZOOM IN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE EVACUATION ZONES FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

RIGHT NOW, THAT COLOR SHADING BASICALLY IS TO MAKE IT EASY TO SEE THE DIFFERENT EVACUATION ZONES IN THE EVENT THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN EMERGENCY.

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THE READY, SET, GO SYSTEM WILL BE IMPLEMENTED WITH A GREEN, RED AND YELLOW STATUS AND THOSE ZONES WILL BE COLOR SHADED WITH THOSE EVACUATION STATUS COLORS. SO IT'LL BE VERY CLEAR AND OBVIOUS WHAT ZONES ARE IN WHAT STATUS.

SO THE COOLEST PART ABOUT THIS MAP IS THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE TO ZOOM IN DOWN TO THE PARCEL LEVEL AND BE ABLE TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE IN RELATION TO WHAT EVACUATION ZONE.

I ALSO MENTIONED THE SEARCH STATUS, SO I'M GOING TO DEMONSTRATE OUR LOCATION RIGHT NOW.

SO YOU CAN SEARCH YOUR LOCATION.

IT'LL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO WHERE YOU ARE.

DROP A PIN WHERE YOU ARE.

YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT PIN, AND OUR GIS FOLKS HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB OF GENERATING PDFS THAT CORRELATE WITH EACH ZONE.

SO YOU CAN PULL UP THIS PDF THAT LISTS YOUR EVACUATION ZONE AT THE TOP.

IT SHOWS YOU WHERE YOU ARE, WHAT THE NAME OF YOUR ZONE IS, THE NUMBER OF THAT ZONE, AND THEN IT PROVIDES SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE READY, SET, GO SYSTEM AND IT ALLOWS FOLKS TO BE MORE EDUCATED ON WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS, AND IN MY MIND, THIS ALLOWS OUR COMMUNITY TO PREPLAN FOR THEMSELVES A LITTLE BIT BETTER SO THEY CAN PRINT THIS OUT, THEY CAN PUT IT ON THEIR FRIDGE, THEY CAN HAVE THAT IN MIND BEFORE AN EMERGENCY ACTUALLY OCCURS.

ONE MORE THING I WANTED TO PULL YOUR ATTENTION TO IS THAT ON THE BOTTOM OF ALL OF THESE PDFS, THERE IS A QR CODE.

ANYONE THAT HAS THEIR PHONE, IF YOU WANT TO SCAN THAT RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN SCAN THAT QR CODE RIGHT NOW AND PULL UP THIS MAP.

SO I'LL PAUSE FOR A MINUTE.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO DO THAT, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND PULL THAT MAP UP AND THEN THAT LINK CAN BE SHARED FAR AND WIDE AND ALLOW OUR COMMUNITIES TO START USING THIS MAP AGAIN.

AS WE'VE REFERENCED, IT'LL BE GOING LIVE TOMORROW.

SO I'LL PAUSE THERE FOR JUST A MOMENT , AND JUST TO SUMMARIZE, I'D LIKE TO CREATE THE BIGGER PICTURE ON WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT.

SO THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS INCREASINGLY UTILIZING THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM ICS TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES THAT SPAN ACROSS MULTIPLE CITY DIVISIONS. YOU GUYS MIGHT RECALL THE WINTER STORM THAT WE HAD THIS PAST WINTER WHERE THE CITY STOOD UP A TYPE THREE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM TO RESPOND TO THAT.

WHEN WE HAVE THOSE BIG INCIDENTS, EVEN SNOWSTORMS, MULTIPLE DIVISIONS HAVE TO RESPOND AND COORDINATE IT ACCORDINGLY, AND INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS ALLOW THAT TO BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. SO AS WE DO THIS, USING TOOLS LIKE THIS ALLOWS US TO COLLABORATE ON AN INTERAGENCY LEVEL THAT IS MUCH MORE EFFICIENT THAN WE'VE TRADITIONALLY DONE, AND THEN THE LONG TERM BENEFIT OF THIS BY IMPLEMENTING THESE THINGS IS IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT ESCALATES BEYOND OUR LOCAL CAPACITY, THIS SEAMLESSLY PROVIDES WORK TO INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS COMING IN AND ULTIMATELY JUST SERVES OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT WAY AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE, AND I HAVE TIME FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

OTHERWISE, I'LL KICK IT BACK TO CHIEF.

QUESTIONS? STAFF.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

IF THERE'S A WIDESPREAD EMERGENCY AND WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR KNOWING? WHICH ROUTE YOU SHOULD TAKE IF IT'S JUST EVERYWHERE? RIGHT, IT'S HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE INCIDENT.

SO TO GIVE YOU A VAGUE ANSWER, IT JUST DEPENDS.

IF A FIRE IS BURNING A CERTAIN DIRECTION THAT WILL DETERMINE THE BEST EGRESS.

IF A STORM TAKES OUT ROADWAYS IN ANOTHER SITUATION THAT DEPENDS ON THE EGRESS, THE RESPONDERS WILL DEFINITELY BE IDENTIFYING THAT AND COMMUNICATE THAT AS A PART OF THE EMERGENCY 9-1-1 RESPONSE.

OKAY. THAT ROUTE WOULD NOT SHOW UP ON THE LIVE MAP, THOUGH, IS THAT CORRECT? SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DISCUSSED IS WORKING WITH THE AZ511, WHICH IS THE TRANSPORTATION MAPS WITH ROAD CLOSURES IN THE EVENT THAT ROAD CLOSURES DO OCCUR, THE DESIRE IS TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THIS IN THAT MAP AS WELL.

SO ANY ROAD CLOSURES WOULD BE DISPLAYED AND OTHERWISE IT MIGHT COME ACROSS IN THE TEXT MESSAGES FROM THE EMERGENCY ALERTS? CORRECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

GREAT. THANK YOU, KATIE.

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JUST TO RECAP, A HUGE MULTI-AGENCY, COORDINATED EFFORT IN A VERY SHORT, TRUNCATED AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO EXECUTE THIS THIS PROCESS.

KATIE, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING YOUR HIGH PERFORMANCE BACK TO THE HOME UNIT TO LEAD AND DRIVE DRIVE THAT PROCESS FOR US.

QUOTING HERE FROM OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER, AND THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A CONTINUATION ON THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING PREPARED FOR EVACUATION, DANIEL KELLY DOES A GREAT JOB OF FOCUSING ON COMMUNITY RESILIENCE AND THE GROUNDWORK FOR SAFE AND EFFICIENT NEIGHBORHOOD EVACUATIONS, EVACUATING FROM WILDFIRES OR ANY EMERGENCY SITUATION. PREPAREDNESS IS KEY.

READY, SET, GO. WE'RE ALWAYS IN READY STATUS, RIGHT? AND SO AS WE MOVE INTO SET AND GO AS THAT IS POPULATED AND REPRESENTED ON THE MAP, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE READY TO MOVE THROUGH THOSE STEPS.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHELTERING OUR UNHOUSED POPULATION AS WELL, SHELTERING OPERATIONS DURING WILDFIRES AND FOREST CLOSURES EXCUSE ME, SHELTER OPERATIONS ARE PROVIDED IN THE CITY COUNTY EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN.

THE EOC MANAGES MASS SHELTERING.

THE FOREST RESTRICTION AND CLOSURES PLAN HAS ADDITIONAL MEASURES TO PROTECT OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION IMPACTED BY FIRES AND CLOSURES.

THE CITY'S HOUSING DIVISION COORDINATES THIS ACTIVITY WITH FLAGSTAFF SHELTER SERVICES, AND WE ARE CERTAINLY THANKFUL AND IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION FOR WITH THOSE PARTNERS. SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AND THESE ARE PULLED OFF OF THE COUNTY'S FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.

I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE AGAIN IS THAT THERE ARE NO CONNECTIVITY, NO NO LIMITS TO WHO CAN USE THE MAP.

A HAPPY COINCIDENCE THAT KATIE MENTIONED IS THAT IF SOMEBODY HAS RELATIVES OUT OF TOWN, THEY CAN ACCESS IT AS WELL.

IF PEOPLE ARE BUSY CONCERNED, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE OCCURRING DURING EVACUATION, IT CAN BE ACCESSED THROUGH THAT QR CODE OR THROUGH THE COUNTY'S DOT GOV FORWARD SLASH READY OR FORWARD SLASH EVAC MAP WEBSITE AND IT IS NOT TO REPLACE READY, SET, GO.

IT SIMPLY HELPS BUILD UPON THAT PROCESS.

LASTLY, I KNOW WE'VE TAKEN UP QUITE A BIT OF YOUR TIME, BUT WE'LL JUST TOUCH ON ONE LAST THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON GOING INTO THE FIRE SEASON AND FOR ABOUT THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AND THIS WILL BUILD ON THAT CURRENT EVACUATION MAP.

WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN TO BE BEGIN TO ENGAGE IN SOME RISK MANAGEMENT ASSESSMENTS THROUGH THE CITY, AND THE GOAL IS TO COVER THAT COMMUNITY WIDE.

WE BORROWED THIS IDEA FROM OUR PARTNERS AT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH CITY FACILITIES, DO A FULL RISK ASSESSMENT, WHICH WILL WHICH WILL RESULT IN A RATING OF LOW, MODERATE OR HIGH. HIGH WILL IDENTIFY AREAS THAT NEED BE THAT NEED FURTHER FOCUSED TREATMENT AND POTENTIALLY ANNUAL FIREWISE TRIAGE.

WE'LL START WITH CITY FACILITIES.

COME BACK PRESENT, PRESENT.

WHAT WE FOUND PRESENT A SYSTEM.

IT'LL BE INTERACTIVE, MUCH LIKE THE EVACUATION MAP, AND THEN WE'LL BEGIN TO DO THAT WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL.

THE MAP WILL LOOK A LOT LIKE THIS.

SO YOU WOULD JUST ACCESS ONE OF THOSE POINTS, CALL IT POINT NINE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, AND THAT WOULD TAKE YOU TO A RISK ASSESSMENT LIKE THAT.

SO THE GOAL PROGRAMMATICALLY IS TO CONTINUE TO BUILD AND LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY TO BETTER PREPARE OUR COMMUNITY, AND WITH THAT, WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING TO MAINTAIN OUR STATUS AS A FIRE ADAPTED COMMUNITY.

WITHIN THAT CIRCLE ARE TEN STRATEGIES, AND I CONFIRM THAT THEY'RE IN TURQUOISE.

I'M ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT COLORBLIND.

KATIE HELPED ME OUT WITH THAT TODAY, BUT WE'VE TALKED QUITE A BIT TONIGHT ABOUT SAFETY AND EVACUATION AND WILDFIRE RESPONSE, AND REALLY WE WANT TO USE THOSE AS BUILDING BLOCKS TO CONTINUE THOSE EFFORTS WITH LARGE SCALE LANDSCAPE TREATMENTS, PREVENTIONS AND REGULATIONS AND RECOVERY.

I DON'T KNOW.

THERE WE GO. I LIKE TO USE THIS IMAGE EVERY TIME, AND I PROMISE THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I USE IT WITHOUT ORGANIZING THESE PICTURES A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT I THINK THIS IT TAKES A VERY COMPLICATED AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND BOILS IT DOWN INTO SOME SIMPLEST TERMS. STARTING ON THE LOWER LEFT CORNER THERE IN 1909, WE SEE WHAT AN ECOLOGICALLY RESTORED ENVIRONMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE AROUND GREATER FLAGSTAFF BIG YELLOW BELLY TREES, NOT A LOT OF SMALL DIAMETER OR OVERGROWN FOREST, MOVING ON A VECTOR FROM LOWER LEFT UPPER RIGHT 1948. ABOUT 40 YEARS LATER, AFTER PROBABLY 2 OR 3 DECADES OF A FULL SUPPRESSION POLICY, WE SEE WHAT REMOVING FIRE FROM THE LANDSCAPE IS BEGINNING TO IMPACT, AND IN 1989, SO ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO, WE SEE FULL ENCROACHMENT OF PONDEROSA PINE.

LOWER RIGHT CORNER.

THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN A FULLY ENCROACHED FOREST BURNS.

MUCH KIND OF LIKE WHAT FREMONT PEAK LOOKED LIKE FROM TOWN LAST YEAR AND THEN LOWER LEFT THAT'S THE GOAL.

THAT'S AN ECOLOGICALLY RESTORED ECOSYSTEM THAT'S FIRE MOVING THROUGH THE GROUND AND THE PONDEROSA PINE AS INTENDED.

WITH THAT, WE'LL MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE, ANY OF THE PRESENTERS FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, AND AGAIN, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

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THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL THE PRESENTERS TONIGHT.

WE ARE A CITY SURROUNDED BY FOREST, AND THIS DEFINITELY SHOULD ALWAYS BE OUR NUMBER ONE FOCUS.

A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE WERE IN WASHINGTON, DC, A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUES, AND WE WERE COMPLIMENTED BY THE USDA STATING HOW WE ARE INNOVATIVE WAYS IN ADDRESSING FIRE MITIGATION AND SUPPRESSION WAS INNOVATIVE AND A LEADER IN THE INDUSTRY, IF YOU WILL AND OTHER STATES ARE FOLLOWING SUIT, SO JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND THANK YOU FOR JUST CONTINUING TO EXPAND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO ADAPT TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND TO STAY AHEAD OF FIRE RISK AND MITIGATION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A BIG THANK YOU TO YOUR WHOLE TEAM AND EVERYONE INVOLVED BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS AND THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK FROM YOUR TRIP TO WASHINGTON, D.C.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO INFORMATIONAL ITEMS TWO FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS.

[15. Informational Items To/From Mayor, Council, and City Manager; future agenda item requests]

SO LET'S START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

NOTHING FOR ME TONIGHT. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SUMMER IS QUICKLY APPROACHING, AND I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT FRIDAY IS OUR FIRST FRIDAY ART WALK DOWNTOWN.

SATURDAY AND SUNDAY IS THE KICKOFF TO FESTIVAL SEASON.

HULLABALOO WILL BE AT WHEELER PARK, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE FARMER'S MARKET YET, YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY GO.

IT'S A LOT OF FUN AND A LOT OF GREAT VENDORS ARE ATTENDING THERE.

THANKS, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

WELL, THANK YOU. I MIGHT MENTION THAT METRO PLAN HAD AN ADVANCE THIS LAST WEEK WHERE THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AND THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE CAME TOGETHER AND WE MET FOR THREE HOURS AND TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHAT METRO PLAN IS GOING TO BE WORKING ON OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. A GOOD MEETING.

THANK YOU.

VICE MAYOR.

SURE. THANK YOU. I WILL TAKE A MINUTE HERE.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT TO UPDATE YOU ALL ON.

I'LL BE BRIEF, BUT ALSO THOROUGH.

I PASSED ON THIS LAST WEEK, SO I'M GOING BACK TWO WEEKS.

I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO START MOST RECENTLY AND WORK MY WAY BACKWARD.

WONDERFUL MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND, MY FAMILY AND I BACKPACKED A PORTION OF THE ARIZONA TRAIL UP BY LAKE MORMON OVER THE PAST THREE DAYS.

IT'S VERY NICE TO SIT DOWN IN A CHAIR FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS THIS AFTERNOON.

THIS WEEKEND, WELL, THIS PAST WEEK I WAS IN SAN ANTONIO WITH DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF TEAM FOR THE INTERNATIONAL TOURISM, AN ANNUAL CONVENTION THAT JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN SAN ANTONIO THIS YEAR.

WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE.

NEAT OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE SAUSAGE GETTING MADE IN TERMS OF HOW WE PACKAGE FLAGSTAFF TO INTERNATIONAL TOURIST GROUPS LOOKING TO PLACE LONE TRAVELERS AND GROUPS COMING THROUGH THE GRAND CIRCLE AREA IN FLAGSTAFF AND SHOW THEM A GREAT TIME.

IT WAS REALLY NEAT TO BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT THE IMPENDING LAUNCH OF THE DISCOVERY CENTER UP ON LOWELL.

THERE'S A NEW VIDEO THAT THEY'VE PRODUCED THAT IMAGINES THE INTERIOR AND THE EXTERIOR AND WHAT ALL THAT LOOKS LIKE.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND CHECKING THAT OUT.

VERY EXCITING.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN AMAZING BOON TO TOURISM IN FLAGSTAFF ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE ALREADY EXPERIENCE AND WE SHOULD GET READY FOR IT.

IN ADDITION TO BEING IN SAN ANTONIO, I OF COURSE ATTENDED COUNCIL MEETING.

I ATTENDED THE TOURISM COMMISSION MEETING.

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THERE WAS A SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION MEETING, THE METRO PLAN ADVANCE.

I WASN'T ABLE TO GET TO THAT, BUT I DID SIT DOWN WITH KATE MORLEY FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS BEFORE LEAVING TO SHARE MY OWN VISIONING PROCESS FOR METRO PLAN WITH HER, AND I HOPE SHE WAS ABLE TO SHARE THAT OUT AS APPROPRIATE.

DURING THE COURSE OF THE MEETING, THERE WAS, LET'S SEE, GETTING BACK INTO IT HERE, ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS I REALLY WANT TO GO BACK A WEEK TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL, AND MAYOR, PERHAPS YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ELABORATE ON THIS A LITTLE BIT.

BOTH OF US WERE INVITED TO ATTEND A MEETING AT THE GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARK HOSTED BY DEB HAALAND, OUR SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR, AND CO-HOSTED BY REPRESENTATIVE RAUL GRIJALVA, TO DISCUSS A PROTECTED AREA ON THAT'S BEING PROPOSED FOR NATIONAL MONUMENT STATUS INVOLVING THE SUPAI AND HAVASUPAI TRIBE.

REALLY WONDERFUL HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO GET INVITED TO THAT MEETING.

THE MAYOR AND I BOTH HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF FLAGSTAFF'S ROLE AND.

REPRESENT THE VIEWPOINT AND THE VOICE THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD.

WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT GOES.

IT WAS A REALLY GREAT MEETING OF THE MINDS, AND I THINK I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.

OH, I ALSO HAD I'M GLAD I MENTIONED THIS CHAIRED THE THIS MONTH CPWAC, THE COCONINO PLATEAU WATER ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH I JUST HAVE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR CITY MANAGER.

USUALLY DURING THESE MONTHLY MEETINGS WE HAVE PLANNED A LENGTHY PRESENTATION AND CONVERSATION AND Q AND A SOMETHING INVOLVING WATER CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE PLATEAU, AND THIS MONTH'S MEETING WAS SCHEDULED TO BE WITH ED SCHENCK, WHO WAS GOING TO TALK TO US AT LENGTH ABOUT THE RIO DE FLAG PROJECT AND HE HAD TO GET PULLED AWAY FROM THAT AT THE LAST MINUTE, WHICH IS THE NATURE OF HIS JOB , BUT OUR CITY MANAGER, GREG CLIFTON, SLIPPED INTO THAT CHAIR AND PINCHED HIT AND TALKED FOR AT LEAST A GOOD HOUR AND ANSWERED QUESTIONS, SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS FROM OUR MEMBERSHIP ABOUT THE RIO DE FLAG PROJECT.

REALLY, REALLY WELL DONE SLIPPING IN THERE.

I IMAGINE YOU COULD DO THAT WITH ALMOST ANY PROJECT IN TOWN.

I DON'T KNOW THAT ALL CITY MANAGERS COULD DO IT WITH THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL AND ATTENTION.

VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE WORK.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE NOW BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO--MY BRAIN IS SHOT, BUT ANYWAY, WE WENT I WENT AND PARTICIPATED AT A SESSION WITH NALA OUT AT THE MUSEUM OF NORTHERN ARIZONA.

YOU KNOW, THE GROUP ASKED US QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS, AND SO IT WAS NICE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO A GROUP OF FLAGSTAFF LEADERS ABOUT JUST CITY ISSUES, AND I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR FROM THEM AGAIN, AND THEN THIS COMING TWO WEEKENDS FROM NOW WILL BE THE JUNETEENTH EVENT, AND THIS YEAR IT IS AT SOUTH BEAVER SCHOOL, AND SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME OUT AND ENJOY THE FESTIVITIES, AND IT STARTS AT 10 A.M.

ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 17TH, AND WE GO UNTIL ABOUT 4 OR 5:00.

SO MUSIC, HOT DOGS, SNOW CONES, A LOT OF HISTORY ABOUT JUNETEENTH AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

SO THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I, TOO, WAS INVITED TO SPEAK AT JUST AN OPEN PANEL AT THE NALA EVENT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE AND HARRIS, AND IT WAS A GREAT EVENT, WELL ATTENDED, AND IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AND HEAR WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT ON THEIR MINDS AND JUST PARTICIPATE WITH THAT AND SHARE OUR THOUGHTS AND OUR IDEAS.

SO I APPRECIATED THAT.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND ONE IS THAT I GAVE SOME OPENING REMARKS AT THE WATER UTILITY LEADERSHIP FORUM AT HIGH COUNTRY CONFERENCE CENTER AND WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO STAY UNTIL MY NEXT MEETING, AND AARON YOUNG FROM WATER SERVICES WAS IN CHARGE OF ONE WHOLE HALF OF THE ENTIRE DAY'S PROGRAMMING, AND THE FOLLOWING MONDAY, AARON AND EMILY AND I WERE ON RADIO SUNNYSIDE TO ALSO TALK ABOUT WATER.

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LAST WEEK I WAS AT THE HELIOS EDUCATION FOUNDATION IN PHOENIX FOR THE ARIZONA MAYOR'S EDUCATION ROUNDTABLE, AND IT WAS A DATA SESSION TO SHOW US WHAT KIND OF DATA WAS AVAILABLE STATEWIDE IN TERMS OF ALL ASPECTS OF EDUCATION , AND I'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE MORE DETAILS WHEN I TAKE SOME OF YOU DOWN TO PHOENIX TO ACTUALLY GET THE FLAGSTAFF DATA, BECAUSE THIS WAS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE AND CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I DO NOT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.