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OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this work session, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for discussion and consultation with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]
WELCOME, EVERYONE, TO TODAY'S WORK SESSION.TODAY IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2023.
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT AT THIS WORK SESSION THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY'S ATTORNEYS FOR LEGAL ADVICE ON ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA.
CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL? CALL]. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I WILL. MAYOR, IF YOU'RE ABLE, PLEASE STAND.
. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET OUR MISSION STATEMENT.
THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU. AND COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS.
WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.
WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE AS HOME.
[4. Public Participation Public Participation enables the public to address the council about items that are not on the prepared agenda. Public Participation appears on the agenda twice, at the beginning and at the end of the work session. You may speak at one or the other, but not both. Anyone wishing to comment at the meeting is asked to fill out a speaker card and submit it to the recording clerk. When the item comes up on the agenda, your name will be called. You may address the Council up to three times throughout the meeting, including comments made during Public Participation. Please limit your remarks to three minutes per item to allow everyone to have an opportunity to speak. At the discretion of the Chair, ten or more persons present at the meeting and wishing to speak may appoint a representative who may have no more than fifteen minutes to speak.]
IT APPEARS ON OUR AGENDA TWICE AT THE BEGINNING, WHICH IS NOW AND AT THE END OF THE WORK SESSION.YOU MAY SPEAK AT ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT NOT BOTH.
AND PLEASE LIMIT YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES AND YOU'LL SEE A TIMER RIGHT HERE.
FIRST, WE HAVE SHANNON EDMONDS.
I THINK THAT YOUR MICROPHONE MIGHT NOT BE TURNED ON.
HI. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TODAY.
I'M ACTUALLY HERE BECAUSE MY MOTHER IS A DISABLED WOMAN WHO.
IT HAS BEEN HAVING A LOT OF INCLUSION ISSUES AND THE SIDEWALKS BEING BLOCKED, BEING ABLE TO CROSS TRAFFIC IN THE TIMEFRAME THAT IT IS AND OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP.
IT HAS JUST BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR HER.
THEY DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE SLIGHT.
THE SLIGHT ADVANTAGES THAT THEY DO HAVE FOR JUST BEING ABLE TO DO THINGS ON THEIR OWN.
INCLUSION SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE SOMETHING WE THINK ABOUT.
GREETINGS, MAYOR DAGGETT, VICE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US TO TALK.
WOULD YOU MIND PUTTING THE MICROPHONE CLOSER? YES, THANK YOU.
I AM A BORN AND RAISED CITIZEN OF FLAGSTAFF.
I AM ALSO THE CHAIRPERSON ON THE COMMISSION FOR INCLUSION AND ADAPTIVE LIVING.
I SPEAK FOR MYSELF TODAY AND THERE ARE THREE MAIN CONCERNS THAT I HAVE.
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I'M COMING TO YOU AS A DISABLED CITIZEN.AND WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE IMPEDIMENTS I FACE ON A DAILY BASIS.
SPECIFICALLY, THE CORNER OF FOURTH STREET AND ROUTE 66 IS A HUGE FEAT FOR ME TO CROSS ALONE, NOT ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE A TIME LIMIT, WHICH I NEVER MEET, BUT ALSO BECAUSE IF THERE'S A BIG TRUCK THAT'S IN ONE OF THE DRIVEWAYS, I HAVE TO RAISE MY HANDS SO THAT THEY CAN SEE ME AND I DON'T GET RUN OVER IF I DON'T MAKE IT IN TIME.
SO AND, YOU KNOW, RAISING MY HANDS IS A SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE WHEN I'M LETTING GO OF MY WHEELS AND I CAN GO AND UNFORTUNATELY, MY WHEELCHAIR NEEDS AN ALIGNMENT, SO I HAVE TWO WHEELS, BUT IT STILL NEEDS TO BE ALIGNED.
WE'RE NOT BACK ON IN-PERSON MEETINGS, BUT EVEN JUST COMING TODAY, I SHOWED MY DAUGHTER THE FRONT ENTRANCE AND, YOU KNOW, THE ENTRANCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
IF I'M ALONE, IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET IN THERE.
SO SOMETIMES I'M ALMOST STUCK.
IF I DON'T HAVE HELP, I APPLAUD THE CITY FOR THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALKS AND THE CURB RAMPS.
BUT HAVING TO CROSS FIVE LANES OF TRAFFIC FOR ME RIGHT NOW IS EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING.
AND THERE ARE DAYS WHERE I JUST KIND OF GIVE UP.
MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF.
WE'LL LOOK DIRECTLY UP AT ADAPTATION AND EQUITY FOR FLAGSTAFF HAS THREE CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS.
I SEE A LOT OF THE WORDS ON THE SCREENS, THE WORDS SAID, THE PLANS IN PLACE, BUT YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF THAT STRUCTURALLY AND INFRASTRUCTURALLY GOING IN AS FAST AS IT NEEDS TO GO IN.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEHAVIOR AND DESIGN.
AGAIN, SPOKE TO THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
THE DESIGN NEEDS TO CATCH UP TO THE BEHAVIOR.
THEIR CARS ARE A LOT FASTER THAN THEY USED TO BE.
AND YET THE DESIGN IS NEVER TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT THAT WE NEED TO IF WE CAN'T ADDRESS THE BEHAVIOR, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUTSIDE AND WAG YOUR FINGER AT SOMEBODY AND THEY'RE GOING TO SLOW DOWN.
IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
YOU NEED TO START DESIGNING SOME STUFF THAT SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN, THAT GETS THEM OFF THEIR PHONE, THAT GIVES ANY SEMBLANCE OF A CHANCE FOR THOSE OF US WHO DON'T ONLY DRIVE VEHICLES AS A WAY TO GET AROUND WITHOUT WORRYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE OUR LIVES, THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE OUR FRIENDS, THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE OUR LIMBS, THAT'S ON THE DESIGN.
MAKE THOSE PASSAGEWAYS BETTER.
MAKE THOSE INTERSECTIONS SAFER.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, HELPS EVERYBODY.
AND YOU CAN DO THE DATA SOURCING.
MOST OF YOUR CORRIDOR, AT LEAST FROM DOWNTOWN, IS FROM FMC TO NORTH CAMPUS.
THAT'S LIKE TWO MILES OF ROAD THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE CONCERTED WITH.
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AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT AT FOURTH AND CEDAR.THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE THING FOR PEDESTRIANS.
MANY OF THEM KIDS, MANY OF THEM LOW INCOME, MANY OF THEM DISABLED.
IT'S GOING TO BE SUPER HARD FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE ALREADY VULNERABLE, WHO ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING TO GET ANOTHER IMPEDIMENT THAT, AGAIN, MOSTLY ONLY ALWAYS ONLY BENEFITS CARS, CAR DRIVERS, CAR USERS.
CAN WE PLEASE JUST START DOING SOME STUFF THAT SPECIFICALLY HELPS PEDESTRIANS, THAT SPECIFICALLY HELPS CYCLISTS? AND THEN WE SEPARATE.
AND THEN IT'S BETTER FOR NOT ONLY THE DANGEROUS MOTORIST, BUT ALSO THE SAFE PEDESTRIANS.
GOOD TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY.
I WANTED TO START MY PUBLIC COMMENT BY TALKING ABOUT PERSPECTIVE.
BUT I'M RIDING LIKE A VEHICLE.
YOU KNOW, I'M DOING WHAT THEY CALL VEHICULAR CYCLING.
SO, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT PERSPECTIVE AND CHALLENGE OUR OWN UNCONSCIOUS BIASES.
RIGHT. AND REALLY TRY TO THINK THROUGH THE LENS OF OTHERS.
AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO FROM CORNER TO CORNER, YOU'RE TALKING ALMOST 200FT, 240FT AT TIMES.
THE DESIGN SPEED IS THE SECOND PART THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.
THE DESIGN SPEED ALONG BUTLER IS 35 CURRENTLY.
YOU ALL HAVE TALKED ABOUT LOWERING THAT SPEED TO 30.
YOU ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS THAT WITH STAFF TODAY AND I HOPE YOU DO.
SO I WITNESSED FIRSTHAND FROM A YOUNG AGE THE STRUGGLES HE FACED IN SOCIETY.
AND THAT'S PART OF WHY I GOT INVOLVED PUBLICLY, AS YOU KNOW, I HAVE, IS FOR PEOPLE LIKE HIM.
AND SO FIVE LANES, SIX LANES, SEVEN LANES, EIGHT LANES MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
AND THAT DIFFERENCE IS IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
VERY IMPORTANT SERVICE THAT THAT COMMISSION PLAYS.
AND I HOPE THAT THEY CONTINUE TO CONNECT WITH YOU ALL HERE THROUGH THE DAIS.
LASTLY, THIS COMES DOWN TO OUR CODE.
SO IF OUR CODE IS DRIVING THESE DECISIONS THAT ARE BUILDING THESE LARGE PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE, WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR CODE OR FIND WAYS TO ACCEPT LOWER LEVELS OF SERVICE IN ORDER TO BUILD CORRIDORS AND PROJECTS THAT SERVE ALL OF US.
ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE FEW NATIVES IN THE CITY AND ONE OF THE FEW ACTUAL TRUE RESIDENTS.
I DON'T CONSIDER ANYBODY THAT'S ONLY LIVED HERE SINCE 1996 ON UP TO BE A TRUE RESIDENT.
SO IT AFFECTS THEM DRAMATICALLY.
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BUT AT THAT TIME IN 23 YEARS AGO, SURGEONS MAKING HALF MILLION A YEAR.MOST OF, THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE, THE EMPLOYEES THERE WERE MAKING 57,000.
NOW, THIS SCENARIO HERE, THE INDIVIDUAL THAT JUST SPOKE, I MENTIONED IT NUMEROUS TIMES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SCENARIO WHERE THERE'S CROSSWALKS FOR FOR THE FOR THE CHILDREN. THEY'RE NOT ADULTS.
THEY CAN BE VERY EASILY SWAYED.
THEY CAN BE VERY EASILY TAKEN, TAKEN ABACK.
THAT'S PATHETIC. NOW, THE OTHER SCENARIO IS ALSO WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.
YOU HAVE ONE BLOCK FROM THE MAIN ROAD THAT'S ASININE.
SO THAT'S SOME OF THE SCENARIOS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
THE OTHER SCENARIO IS THEY HAVEN'T BEEN IN HERE A WHILE.
I'VE HAD SOME PERSONAL ISSUES AND WHATNOT, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THE MEDIUM OF INTERNET AND TELEVISION, I MANDY FERNANDEZ, I RAN FOR MAYOR HERE IN 1995.
I WAS A CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE IN 2002, ACTUALLY, JUSTICE OF THE PEACE AS WELL IN 2000.
AND I INITIATED THE RECYCLING PROGRAM HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU MRS MAYOR WERE A FRIEND OF FLAGSTAFF FUTURE, YOU GUYS TOLD A LOT OF MY MY SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN STATING FOR EIGHT YEARS THAT WHEN I WENT TO YOUR MEETINGS BECAUSE I WAS THE ONLY DARK-SKINNED BROTHER THERE, YOU KIND OF SET ME UP BACK AND DIDN'T WANT TO LISTEN TO ME.
NOT WITH THAT SAID, THE OTHER SCENARIO IS.
AGAIN, THE INDIVIDUALS TALKING ABOUT THESE ROUNDABOUTS, THAT'S APPALLING ON $1 MILLION FOR A ROUNDABOUT AND IT DOESN'T EVEN REALLY FACILITATE ADDRESSING PROPER SCENARIO FOR TRAFFIC FLOW.
A LOT OF CONFUSION, ACCIDENTS AND WHATNOT.
NOW, THE OTHER SCENARIO IS PROPOSITION 480.
AND WE HAVE PURCHASED ON A BOND SEVERAL, WELL, ALMOST.
ALMOST $40 MILLION FOR OPEN SPACE PURCHASE.
AND NOW WE WANT TO PUT THE HOSPITAL THERE.
THAT'S RIDICULOUS. I COMMEND VICE MAYOR ASLIN BECAUSE HE'S OPPOSING IT.
I OPPOSE IT. FERNANDES THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
SO, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE DOWN TO THE CITY MANAGER REPORT.
[5. City Manager Report Information Only]
THANK YOU, MAYOR.THIS TIME. JUST A FEW UPDATES AND TIDBITS FOR YOU, AND I HOPE YOU FIND THEM OF INTEREST.
GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
A QUICK REMINDER OF YOUR COUNCIL RETREAT ON OCTOBER 12TH.
PLEASE PENCIL THAT ON YOUR CALENDARS.
ACTUALLY, YOU CAN INK IT ON YOUR CALENDARS.
AND STAY TUNED FOR THE AGENDA AND THE VENUE DETAILS APPENDED TO MY REPORT THIS TIME WAS THE ECONOMIC VITALITY MONTHLY UPDATE.
AND I THINK HEIDI HANSEN OR HER, ONE OF HER TEAM MEMBERS WILL BE PRESENTING ON THAT VIRTUALLY.
THANKS. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR.
HEIDI HANSEN ECONOMIC VITALITY DIRECTOR AND I WILL ACTUALLY BE GOING THROUGH THE REPORT WITH YOU.
I WILL BE DOING SOME SCROLLING, SO I HOPE IT DOESN'T MAKE ANYBODY FEEL TOO CRAZY.
WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE AIRPORT.
UM, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF MARKETING OUTWARD AND INWARD FOR THE AIRPORT, REMINDING PEOPLE TO FLY FLAGSTAFF FIRST. AND WE ACTUALLY DID SOME ADVERTISING GETTING GEARED UP FOR THE PARENTS FOR YOU.
LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE HAVE FLIGHTS FROM TO PHOENIX AND DFW AND VICE VERSA.
ALSO WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL OR EXCUSE ME, VICE MAYOR ASLIN FOR AN ADVERTORIAL THAT HE DID THAT SHOWS UP ON OUR SCREENS REMINDING EVERYBODY THAT IT IS THE 75TH ANNIVERSARY OF OUR FLAGSTAFF PULLIAM AIRPORT, WHICH YOU WILL ALL CELEBRATE WITH US IN NOVEMBER.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AHEAD OF TIME.
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AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE BROCHURES FOR VISITORS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF FLAGSTAFF.WE ARE ACTUALLY WRAPPING OUR VEHICLES AT THE AIRPORT.
OUR AIRPORT RESCUE, FIRE FIGHTING VEHICLES, ALL OF THE OTHER VEHICLES AS WELL, SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE OPERATIONAL AS WELL AS THEY ARE FOR FLAGSTAFF AIRPORT USE OR PAID PARKING SYSTEM IS GOING WONDERFULLY.
I'VE ACTUALLY USED THE SYSTEM MYSELF AND I CAN TELL YOU IT WAS SEAMLESS.
WE ALSO HELD THE THUNDER OVER FLAGSTAFF EVENT.
IT WAS A ONE DAY EVENT AND WE HAD OVER 5000 PARTICIPANTS.
AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE SCROLLING.
WISEMAN AVIATION IS ADDING A GREAT LIFT, AND YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE PICTURE OF IT DEPICTED RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS SO THAT WE CAN SERVE ALL AIRCRAFT.
IT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO SERVE A BOEING 737 ON UP TO A BOEING 777.
DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS, BUT WE HAVE HAD FLIGHTS FROM SOUTHWEST AIRLINES THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN SENT TO OUR AIRPORT BEFORE BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO BE GROUNDED AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
I WILL TELL YOU, AND I CAN'T GIVE YOU TOO, TOO MUCH INFORMATION, BUT WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF AIRLINE CONFERENCES AND MEETINGS AND WE ARE GETTING SOME INTEREST IN THE SECOND AIRLINE ROUTE, A SECOND AIRLINE ROUTE FOR THE AIRPORT.
SO, WE HOPE THERE'LL BE MORE TO COME IN YOUR FUTURE GOING INTO COMMUNITY INVESTMENT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BEAUTIFICATION, ARTS AND SCIENCE, WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW OUR BEAUTIFICATION AND ACTION GRANTS ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN GOING TO GOOD USE.
HERE YOU SEE A PICTURE OF A HEART BOX AND BASICALLY IT'S FROM THE OWNER OF HEART BOX GALLERY.
ALSO, WE HAVE SOME CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE OR MODIFICATIONS MADE TO THE AIRPORT GATEWAY SIGN.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE WOODEN BEAMS RESTAINED, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM RE SANDED.
WE'RE WORKING AGAIN ON THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER ART PIECE.
YOU HAD A FULL WORK SESSION ON THAT ALREADY AND YOU'LL HAVE MORE TO COME.
AND THEN WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FLOWER PROGRAM.
OUR STAFF WITH THE FLOWER PROGRAM AND THE FLOWERS ARE ACTUALLY STILL LOOKING FABULOUS IN DOWNTOWN.
SO FEAR NOT EVERYTHING WILL HAVE SOMETHING REPLACED.
AND THEN I'M GOING TO MOVE AGAIN.
SORRY FOR THE SCROLLING. GOING TO MOVE ALL THE WAY DOWN INTO BUSINESS OR PARK FLAG.
ACTUALLY, FIRST PARK FLAG IS WORKING ON OUR ANNUAL REPORT.
WE OFFER AN ANNUAL REPORT TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS EACH YEAR.
THEY ALSO HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF THE RED CURB REPAINTING SO THAT PEOPLE CLEARLY KNOW WHAT IS A MARKED PLACE TO TO WHERE TO PARK IN DOWNTOWN. AND I LOVE THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE BECAUSE IT DOES SHOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FLOWER PROGRAM THAT I JUST SPOKE ABOUT AND HOW BEAUTIFUL THEY ARE AS AS FAR AS COMMUNITY UPDATES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A SURVEY PROJECT WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE SURVEY'S GOAL IS TO EVALUATE THE NEED FOR MORE COMPREHENSIVE PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND OUR NUMBERS ARE UP 8% FOR 2022.
AND WE'RE SEEING A DAILY A DAILY AVERAGE AT THE KIOSK OF $3,317.
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PERSON. AS FAR AS BUSINESS ATTRACTION, THE ARIZONA LIVERS HOUSE, IT'S A RESEARCH AND MEDICAL PROVIDER.THEY HAVE ACQUIRED PROPERTY AND THEY WILL ACTUALLY BE LOCATING TO FLAGSTAFF.
AND THIS IS JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL INCENTIVES.
IT OFFERS NEW BUSINESSES, A PORTION OF THE CITY CONSTRUCTION SALES TAX BACK TO THEM TO BE USED FOR A VARIETY OF USES, INCLUDING EMPLOYER RELOCATION, TRAINING, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND VARIOUS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
IF YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PLEASE INQUIRE ABOUT THIS CONFERENCE.
IT WILL BE HAPPENING THE EVENING OF OCTOBER 25TH.
IT WILL CONCLUDE ON OCTOBER 27TH.
MY STAFF AND I WILL BE ATTENDING.
WE AGAIN TALKING ABOUT INCENTIVES.
WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT HAVE BASICALLY SIX PEOPLE HAVE OR BUSINESSES HAVE APPLIED FOR THE INCENTIVE.
THERE'LL BE MORE TO COME ON THAT.
AND THEN YOU SAW LAST WEEK OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME BEFORE YOU JOY-CON STAFF HAS BEEN CONTINUING TO WORK WITH JOY-CON, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR LARGEST MANUFACTURERS.
AND I KNOW JOHN SALTONSTALL MIGHT BE IN THE ROOM.
IT MEANS PEOPLE ARE WALKING THROUGH THE DOOR AND THEY ARE USING OUR LIBRARIES.
AND OUR COMPUTER USE WAS UP 4.32%, WHICH IS A VERY BIG DEAL.
ALSO, WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO JOIN US ON FRIDAY FROM 10 A.M.
IT'S DONE. JEREMY GATOR DID AN EXCELLENT JOB HELPING ENGINEER THIS.
AND WE WILL BE WELCOMING ALL OF YOU TO IT.
I BELIEVE THE MAYOR WILL HAVE A FEW WORDS TO SAY.
AND I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.
WE ALSO HAVE A NEW WEBSITE AT THE LIBRARY.
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, PLEASE GO TO IT.
AND THEN MOVING ON TO YOUTH SERVICES.
WE ADDED CHAIRS, COUCH RUG PILLOWS, CUSHIONS, YOU NAME IT, AND IT'S A GREAT GATHERING PLACE.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, IT WAS LIBRARY CARD SIGN-UP MONTH.
AND SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR LIBRARY CARD, DON'T TELL ME.
AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL USE IT AT THE LIBRARY AND TOURISM AND VISITOR SERVICES.
WE HAD 12 PRINTED AND 55 DIGITAL ARTICLES IN ONE MONTH FOR DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF.
WE HAD SEVEN PROCURED STORIES AND FOUR MEDIA ASSIST VERY, VERY BIG.
I HOPE THAT YOU WILL ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE THIS WILL TELL YOU A LOT MORE ABOUT WHAT WAS WRITTEN ABOUT US, AND IT WILL SHOW YOU THE SNAPSHOTS ABOUT WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT WITH FLAGSTAFF.
AND AGAIN, HERE'S SOME HIGHLIGHTS THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER AZLAN, FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THIS AND ALL OF YOUR INTEREST.
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BUT AT THE ARIZONA LEAGUE OF CITIES, WE HAD AN THEY HAD AN ACTUAL PANEL BECAUSE IT'S TAKING OFF.IT WAS CALLED LIGHTS, CAMERA, CASH, HARNESSING THE POWER OF ARIZONA'S FILM INDUSTRY.
AND MEG ROEDER, OUR FILM COMMISSIONER, WAS PRESENT AS AS WELL AS ARIZONA.
AND SHE'S TALKING ABOUT WHY YOU CAN DO FILMING IN FLAGSTAFF.
AND WE HAD TWO PERMITS THAT WERE SUBMITTED IN AUGUST.
STRONGEST INTEREST FROM THE DRIVE MARKET THAT WE'VE SEEN IN MONTHS.
THE FLAG LEAF-OMETER IS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY POPULAR.
OUR TRAILS PASSPORT IS HAVING MAJOR SUCCESS 30% INCREASE IN TRAIL PASSPORT SIGNUPS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, SOCIAL MEDIA IS TAKING OFF.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CONFERENCES, MEETINGS AND EVENTS.
WE HAD TWO LEADS THAT WERE THAT WERE SENT OUT IN AUGUST.
IT GARNERED 380 ROOM NIGHTS AND AN ECONOMIC IMPACT OF OVER $113,000 OF NEW REVENUE.
VISITOR SERVICES ARE UP, WALK INS, RETAIL IS UP.
AND WE ALSO HAD A SUCCESSFUL FRIDAY ART WALK.
WE ARE GETTING GREAT GOOGLE REVIEWS.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO SHOW YOU THE GREAT WORK CREATIVE SERVICES IS DOING WITH THE BEAUTIFUL ARTWORK THAT THEY'RE SENDING OUT, SHOWING THAT WE'RE ONLY 81 MILES FROM A NATURAL WONDER AGAIN, ASKING PEOPLE TO COME AND BE LEAF PEEPERS AS YOU SEE THE LEAF-OMETER IN THIS AD, AS WELL AS TALKING ABOUT PLEDGING FOR THE WILD, KEEPING OUR WILD PLACES WILD.
THIS IS IN THE DOWNTOWN LEGENDS DISTRICT.
WE DO TICKERS ACROSS SEVERAL BILLBOARDS.
WE'RE WORKING ON A BUSINESS ONE STOP SHOP THAT COUNCIL MEMBER OR PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER SALAS HAD ASKED US TO WORK ON, ALONG WITH SEVERAL THE REST OF YOU TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS EASIER, WORKING WITH OUR TEAM AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
WE'LL ACTUALLY BE CREATING A WORK SESSION ON THAT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PROS ON SIGNAGE, WORKING ON THE GOOD NEIGHBOR GUIDELINES AS WELL, AND THE LIST JUST GOES ON AS WELL AS DOING ALL OF OUR OWN ADVERTISING WITH AIRPORT RESTAURANTS AND AGAIN, OUR OWN RECRUITMENT.
IT GOES FROM 1130 TO 130 AT HIGH COUNTRY CONFERENCE CENTER.
WE ASK THAT YOU COME AND LEARN WHAT WE JUST DID LAST YEAR IN ECONOMIC VITALITY, AS WELL AS THE HIGHLIGHTS AND TOURISM, SO THAT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, YOU CAN LEARN MORE AND ENJOY.
SO THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THANK YOU, HEIDI. I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, HAVE YOU AND YOUR STAFF DISCUSSED ANY CHANGES NEEDED TO MESSAGING IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? SHUTS DOWN.
I MEAN, IN TERMS OF PEOPLE WANTING TO GO TO THE GRAND CANYON, NATIONAL MONUMENTS AROUND HERE.
YES, MAYOR, IT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
I'LL GIVE YOU A GREAT EXAMPLE.
SO WE ARE WELL EQUIPPED TO GIVE THEM OTHER IDEAS.
WE CAN'T WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.
NOT SEEING THE NATURAL WONDER THAT THEY CAME TO SEE OR IF OTHER MONUMENTS CLOSED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY.
THANK YOU. AND GREG WENT OVER MY FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE I FIGURED THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU, HEIDI.
ANY QUESTIONS OF ME? GREAT. THAT CONCLUDES THE REPORT.
MOVING ON, REVIEW OF DRAFT AGENDA FOR THE OCTOBER 3RD CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
[6. Review of Draft Agenda for the October 3, 2023 City Council Meeting Citizens wishing to speak on agenda items not specifically called out by the City Council may submit a speaker card for their items of interest to the recording clerk.]
DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONS? QUESTIONS. COMMENTS.NONE. SO WE WILL MOVE DOWN TO ITEM SEVEN.
[7. Discussion on the Development of the Citywide Comprehensive Cost Recovery Policy Council direction on the cost recovery policy setting. ]
DISCUSSION ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF CITYWIDE COMPREHENSIVE COST RECOVERY POLICY.[00:35:02]
VICE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.I'M RICK TADDER, YOUR MANAGEMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR AND CITY TREASURER.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY IS RELATED TO A FUTURE AGENDA REQUEST ITEM THAT COUNCIL CONSIDERED AND FORWARDED ON RELATED TO A CITYWIDE COMPREHENSIVE COST RECOVERY POLICY.
AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SEVERAL OF OUR DIVISIONS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS.
WE'VE KICKED OFF THE PROJECT AND WE ARE FULL STEAM AHEAD.
MGT HAS BEEN A PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF FOR MANY YEARS.
THEY'VE WORKED ON USER FEE STUDIES THROUGHOUT OUR ORGANIZATION AS WELL AS THEY ARE WORKING ON OUR ANNUAL COST ALLOCATION PLANS THAT WE DO DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
SO THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER OVER THE YEARS.
TODAY WE'RE SHARING INFORMATION ABOUT A COST RECOVERY POLICY AND WHAT THAT MEANS, AS WELL AS WORKING TO SEEK YOUR INPUT SINCE THIS IS ONE OF YOUR FARE ITEMS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT DIRECTION OF BUILDING A POLICY THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE RELATED TO COST RECOVERY AND OUR USER FEES AND RATES.
TODAY WITH ME IN PERSON IS ALLEN PARKS WITH MANAGEMENT MGT AMERICA.
HE'S A PROJECT CONSULTANT AS WELL AS WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE ON LINE TODAY.
WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ELLEN.
THANK YOU, RICK. THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING US TO JOIN TODAY AND MEET WITH YOU.
I HAVE A RELATIVELY SHORT POWERPOINT TO GO THROUGH WITH YOU ALL.
THERE IS THIS SPOT FOR THE END FOR QUESTIONS.
HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS AS WE GO THROUGH, FEEL FREE TO STOP ME AND WE CAN TALK.
LISA AND ALEX ARE HERE TO JOIN ME AS WELL.
SO HERE'S OUR BRIEF AGENDA FOR TODAY.
JUST TO QUICKLY HIGHLIGHT MGT, LIKE RICK HAS MENTIONED, WE HAVE WORKED WITH YOU ALL BEFORE IN THE PAST, CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE COST ALLOCATION PLAN, WHICH WILL EVENTUALLY TIE INTO A USER FEE STUDY IN THE FUTURE.
SO YOU'RE HITTING TWO THINGS ALREADY THERE, BUT WE ARE A NATIONAL FIRM.
WE WORK ALL ACROSS THE US, WE HAVE CONSULTANTS ALL ACROSS AND WE SPECIALIZE IN THE PUBLIC SERVICES AND PUBLIC SECTOR SEGMENT. LISA, ALEX AND I ARE IN THE MANAGEMENT STUDIES PART OF THE PRACTICE, SO WE FOCUS A LOT ON THESE COST RECOVERY PLANS, USER FEE SERVICES, MANAGEMENT STUDIES AND THEN PERFORMANCE AUDITS AS WELL.
OUR GOALS FOR THIS PROJECT IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU GUYS SET A CITYWIDE COST RECOVERY POLICY.
THIS POLICY IS GOING TO HELP INCREASE THE OVERALL COST RECOVERY FOR THE CITY, AND THEN IT'S ALSO GOING TO HELP DEVELOP A SCHEDULE FOR REVIEW OF YOUR FEES.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME FEES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN REVIEWED SINCE 2007, 2008.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HELP YOU GUYS SET A SCHEDULE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING UP TO DATE WITH ALL OUR FEES AND KEEPING UP WITH THE CHANGE IN THE ECONOMICS AS WE GO THROUGH.
AND THEN LASTLY, OF COURSE, WE WANT YOU GUYS TO ADOPT THIS POLICY.
THIS TIMELINE HAS CHANGED SLIGHTLY SINCE WHAT WE'VE PROVIDED TO YOU ALL.
SO AS RICK HAS SAID, WE'VE ALREADY KICKED OFF THIS PROJECT.
WE WANT TO THANK ALL THE DIVISION LEADERS AND OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT WE GOT A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH.
WE SCHEDULED THESE MEETINGS WITH SHORT NOTICE AND WE WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH EVERYBODY WITHIN A WEEK.
SO WE REALLY, REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT AND HELPING THAT PROJECT KEEP ON GOING THROUGH.
WE ARE HERE WITH THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING.
WE HAVE MOVED UP THE POLICY FIRST DRAFT REVIEW TO BE GIVEN TO RICK FOR THE 11TH.
SO I THINK ON YOU GUYS, YOU HAVE THE EIGHTH.
WE'LL HAVE A SECOND COUNCIL MEETING, HOPEFULLY WITH YOU GUYS ON NOVEMBER THE 7TH.
AT THIS POINT, WE'LL HAVE A PRETTY FLESHED OUT POLICY FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW AND TO PROVIDE COMMENTS, FEEDBACK AND CONTINUE THAT PROCESS WITH ULTIMATELY THIS POLICY BEING ADOPTED BY DECEMBER 5TH.
THIS IS A WORKING IN PROGRESS TIMELINE, BUT WE'D LOVE TO STICK WITH THIS IF WE CAN.
SO WHY A COST RECOVERY PLAN? THIS SLIDE HAS MANY REASONS.
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YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THE REASONS ALSO TURN INTO THE BENEFITS OF HAVING A COST RECOVERY POLICY.FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY AND STABILITY FOR THE CITY IS ONE OF THE MAIN TARGETS.
ONE, NOT ONLY IS IT A BEST PRACTICE BY THE GFOA FOR YOU GUYS TO HAVE A POLICY POLICY SUCH AS THIS ESTABLISH, BUT ALSO IT HELPS YOU ALL IDENTIFY WHO IS ULTIMATELY PAYING FOR THE SERVICES THAT YOU PROVIDE.
IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, THROUGH THE GENERAL TAXPAYERS, OR IT'LL BE THE CUSTOMER PAYING FOR THE SERVICES THAT YOU ALL PROVIDE OR A COMBINATION OF THE TWO.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AS WE KIND OF GO THROUGH.
THERE ARE MANY ELEMENTS OF THE COST RECOVERY POLICY.
THIS IS NOT A FULL LIST OF EVERYTHING, BUT IT DOES HIT A LOT OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.
THIS INITIAL PART, THE FIRST BULLET HERE IDENTIFIES THE ESSENTIALLY THE NEED OF ARE YOU GOING TO FULLY RECOVER THE COST FOR THE SERVICE OR ARE YOU GOING TO.
RECOVER, MAYBE LESS OF THAT COST.
AND THEN SETTING THE RATIONALE FOR WHY YOU WOULD RECOVER THOSE FULL COSTS.
SO JUST AS A HIGHLIGHT THERE, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOT RECOVERING FULL COSTS, YOU'RE WANTING TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, MAYBE YOU'RE TAKING INTO AFFORDABILITY OR PRICING HISTORY INTO THOSE FEES THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SET.
AND ALSO YOU MAY WANT TO REGULATE DEMAND OR DRIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND THEN THE LAST TWO BULLETS.
SO THIS TOP PART OF THE PYRAMID IS YOUR EXCLUSIVE INDIVIDUAL BENEFIT.
I THINK YOUR PERMITTING, YOUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, YOUR INSPECTION SERVICES, THOSE ARE THE SORT OF ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE FULLY TYPICALLY FULLY PAID BY THE CUSTOMER, IF YOU WILL.
AND THEN AS YOU WORK DOWN, YOU GET INTO YOUR COMMUNITY, YOUR MORE COMMUNITY BASED OR SERVICES, THINK PARKS AND REC OR SUSTAINABILITY WITH THEIR GARDEN.
YOU WANT TO DRIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THESE AND THESE SITES.
IN THE LAST SLIDE HERE IS ESSENTIALLY HOW THE COST RECOVERY POLICY IS GOING TO BE PUT INTO ACTION.
THAT ALL MAKES UP THAT FULL COST OF SERVICE.
AND THEN FROM THERE YOU'LL TAKE THE FULL COST OF SERVICE, YOU'LL MULTIPLY IT BY EITHER 100%, MAYBE 20%, 50%, SOMETHING PULLED FROM THE TABLE OR THE PYRAMID HERE.
SO, WITH THAT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A QUICK POWERPOINT, JUST A BRIEF DISCUSSION.
BUT FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING FOR YOU ALL.
COMMENTS. YOU DID SUCH A GOOD JOB THAT THEY HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
SOUNDS GOOD. YOU ALL HAVE OUR CONTACTS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING POPS UP, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT.
IT'S AT THE END OF THE SLIDES THAT WE PROVIDED.
THEY'RE ALSO HERE ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
OKAY. WE ARE NOW MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.
[8. Carbon Neutrality Plan Biannual Update Informational update for the City Council and Flagstaff community.]
BIANNUAL UPDATE.[00:45:17]
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE WHILE WE GET SET UP.
I AM YOUR CLIMATE ACTION SECTION DIRECTOR, AND THANKS FOR MAKING THE TIME TONIGHT.
I'LL BE JOINED BY A COUPLE OTHER STAFF MEMBERS TODAY.
WE HAVE ADDED A FLIER ONTO YOUR DESKS AT THE DAIS.
THIS IS AND I'LL BE ABLE TO SEND IT TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE REMOTE.
WE WILL BE ADDING TO THIS, SO YOU'LL SEE US START TO BUILD ON THOSE PAGES THAT TALK THROUGH THE DIFFERENT TOPICS AND WE'LL BE PROVIDING A COUPLE MORE SORT OF AREAS WHERE WE CAN SUPPORT YOU ALL, AS WELL AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS WITH TALKING ABOUT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.
SO JUST IN CASE THINGS LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM YOUR PACKET.
OUR CONVERSATION TODAY HAS THREE ELEMENTS.
THE FIRST IS REALLY FOUNDATIONS OF CLIMATE ACTION.
THIS IS FOR OURSELVES AS WELL AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE THAT ARE HERE REALLY JUST TO REFRESH US ON HOW OUR WORK RELATES TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE SET. WE'LL THEN DO AN ACTION UPDATE ON IMPLEMENTATION, HOW IT'S GOING, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT'S NEXT.
I AM TRULY PROUD TO BE HERE REPRESENTING OUR CLIMATE TEAM.
THAT ROSTER HAS CHANGED A BIT SINCE WE WERE LAST HERE.
AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, WE WORK HEAVILY WITH AMERICORPS VISTAS.
THESE ARE VOLUNTEERS THAT DO A ONE-YEAR FULL TIME TERM IN OUR OFFICE.
WE'RE INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR THEIR SUPPORT.
SO WE'RE JUST TRULY APPRECIATIVE FOR ALL OF THESE VISTAS.
AND GRACIE, WHO SIGNED UP FOR YET ANOTHER VOLUNTEER YEAR WITH US.
ALSO, SINCE WE LAST TALKED, DANNY PRESSLER JOINED OUR TEAM ACTUALLY FROM AVONDALE, ARIZONA.
DANNY COULDN'T BE THERE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE SHE IS TRAVELING ON OUR BEHALF.
AND THEN GENEVIEVE PEARTHREE JOINED US AS OUR RESILIENCE ANALYST.
EXCUSE ME. THIS IS OUR NEW POSITION SINCE THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN WAS ADOPTED TO ALLOW US TO FOCUS MORE ON RESILIENCE AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR COLLABORATIONS ACROSS DIVISIONS.
AGAIN, I'M GOING TO TALK QUICKLY ABOUT THE FOUNDATIONS OF CLIMATE ACTION.
I FIND IT HELPFUL TO RETURN TO OUR GOALS AND PRINCIPLES OFTEN.
SO I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THESE BEFORE.
THESE ARE OUR THREE CLIMATE GOALS.
IN SHORT, OUR THREE GOALS ARE TO REDUCE OUR IMPACT, TO PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE, AND PARTICULARLY A RAPIDLY CHANGING FUTURE AS WELL AS HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES.
THERE ARE 15 TARGET AREAS ON HERE.
I KNOW IT'S A LOT, BUT THEY CAN BE SUMMED UP AND I FIND IT MOST HELPFUL TO THINK ABOUT THEM IN TERMS OF OUR PRIORITIES, WHICH ARE NEIGHBORHOODS, ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND COMMITMENTS. UNDER THOSE, THERE ARE THE INDIVIDUAL TARGET AREAS.
THE TARGET AREAS ARE WHERE WE REALLY FOCUS.
SO WE MAY REALLY FOCUS ON HOW DO WE DO ELECTRIC MOBILITY, RIGHT? THOSE ARE, THAT'S WHERE KIND OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS COME OUT.
OTHER FOCUS AREAS ARE THINGS LIKE HEALTHY FORESTS AND OPEN SPACES OR ECONOMIC PROSPERITY.
THESE THINGS ALSO RELATE TO EACH OTHER.
SUSTAINABLE CONSUMPTION HAS TO DO WITH WASTE PREVENTION AND BUILDING OUR FOOD SYSTEMS. THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH HOW WE WORK WITH OUR FRIENDS IN PUBLIC WORKS AND SOLID WASTE AS WELL AS IT RELATES TO COMMUNITY RESILIENCE AND EQUITABLE SYSTEMS AND HOW WE WORK IN THE COMMUNITY. SO, THEY ALL KIND OF REINFORCE AND WORK TOGETHER.
THE NEXT THING I WANT TO REVIEW ARE OUR CLIMATE ACTION PRINCIPLES.
THESE ARE A BIT OF A THROWBACK TO WHEN WE ACTUALLY WROTE THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.
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CLIMATE ACTION AND ESPECIALLY CARBON NEUTRALITY ARE NEW FOR US.THEY'RE NEW FOR A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY.
FIRST IS MOTIVATED BY URGENCY.
WE HAVE A SHORT WINDOW IN TERMS OF TIME TO ACT TO MAKE THE MOST BENEFIT IN TERMS OF CLIMATE ACTION.
THAT'S REALLY ON AN INTERNATIONAL AND GLOBAL SCALE.
BUT IT IS REFLECTED BY OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030 GOAL CENTERING EQUITY AND ADAPTATION.
I THINK YOU'LL SEE SEVERAL PIECES TONIGHT WHERE THE EQUITY OR ADAPTATION ELEMENTS ARE REALLY, REALLY CLEAR AND THAT REALLY SHOW WHEN WE ACT, WE TRY TO THINK ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE OTHER ASPECTS AS WELL.
WE TRY REALLY HARD NOT TO JUST SAY, OKAY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON THE EMISSIONS HERE.
THERE IS NO PROGRAM THAT WE DO THAT DOES NOT HAVE PARTNERS IN IT.
THAT IS, WE MAY BE THE ONES UP HERE TALKING ABOUT IT, RIGHT? FLEET ELECTRIFICATION IS ACTUALLY A GOOD EXAMPLE.
WE MAY BE UP HERE, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY PARTS OF THIS ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS ON ALL OF THAT.
COMMUNITY GARDENS ARE SIMILAR, TOO.
THERE ARE SO MANY PARTS OF THIS ORGANIZATION AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WHETHER THAT'S FUSD OR OUR PARKS AND RECREATION FRIENDS OR LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS.
FINALLY, THESE ARE KIND OF WHAT WE CALL THE INGREDIENTS FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY.
THIS IS THE WHAT. SO WE SEPARATE THIS OUT INTO COMMUNITY ACTION OR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
COMMUNITY ACTION IS WHERE WE'RE WORKING SPECIFICALLY AND DIRECTLY WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
MAYBE THAT'S ELEVATING VOICES, MAYBE THAT'S COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE OR POLICY.
THE MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS ARE REALLY WALKING THE TALK.
WHAT DO WE DO INTERNALLY TO DO THIS WORK? I AM NOW GOING TO PASS THIS OVER TO GENEVIEVE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
GENEVIEVE PEARTHREE, RESILIENCE ANALYST WITH THE FLAGSTAFF SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE.
SO I WILL BE DISCUSSING SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF COMMUNITY ACTION THAT JENNY JUST MENTIONED.
SO I'LL FIRST TALK ABOUT POLICY DEVELOPMENT.
SO BEFORE I GET INTO THE DETAILS TOO MUCH, I ALSO JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THESE ARE HIGHLIGHTS.
BUT IF WE TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING, WE'D BE HERE FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
SO JUST WANT TO STATE THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO FOR TRANSPORTATION, FOR THE POLICY DEVELOPMENT, THE THREE AREAS THAT I'M HIGHLIGHTING TONIGHT ARE TRANSPORTATION, ZONING AND BUILDING CODES, AS WELL AS RESILIENCE AND EQUITY. SO THE GOAL HERE IS TO MATCH CITY POLICIES AND CODES TO THE STATED GOALS OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.
EQUITABLE SYSTEMS, COMMUNITY RESILIENCE AND FUEL SWITCHING.
SO, I'LL TALK ABOUT THEM BRIEFLY.
THAT IS A COLLABORATION WITH ENGINEERING AS WELL AS OTHER DIVISIONS.
SO, ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS INVOLVE COLLABORATIONS WITH OTHER CITY DIVISIONS.
SO ANOTHER ONE IS THE LAND AVAILABILITY AND SUITABILITY STUDY AND THE CODE ANALYSIS PROJECT.
SO AGAIN, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN INVOLVES ALL OF THE CITY DIVISIONS.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A COLLABORATION IS THE RESILIENT SOUTHWEST BUILDING CODE COLLABORATIVE, SO THAT'S TO IMPROVE BUILDING CODES ACROSS ARIZONA, AND THAT INVOLVES THE BUILDING SAFETY DEPARTMENT OR SECTION HERE AT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, AS WELL AS THE CITY OF TUCSON.
AND THEN ONE LAST POLICY DEVELOPMENT I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE CATASTROPHIC LEAVE POLICY.
SO THAT'S THE CATASTROPHIC FIRE AND POST-FIRE FLOODING LEAVE POLICY.
IT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND IN EFFECT AND IT PROVIDES EMPLOYEES WHO ARE PERSONALLY IMPACTED BY CATASTROPHIC FIRES, POST-FIRE FLOODING OR OTHER POST-FIRE THREATS WITH PAID TIME OFF TO PROTECT THEIR FAMILY PROPERTY AND PETS.
SO THAT IS IN PLACE IF WE ARE IN THE UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WE NEED THAT MOVING FORWARD.
SO, I'M HIGHLIGHTING TWO PROGRAMS IN THIS SLIDE AND REALLY THE OVERARCHING GOAL OF THIS COMPONENT OF THIS PART OF WORK IS TO BUILD COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE, TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS IN A CHANGING WORLD.
SO AGAIN, THIS INVOLVES COLLABORATION WITH LOTS OF OTHER CITY DIVISIONS.
SO THE FIRST PROGRAM IS COMMUNITY OF FLAGSTAFF EV CHARGING STATION.
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SO 18 CHARGING STATIONS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED FOR COMMUNITY AND FLEET USE.WE DO HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY DATA ON THAT.
SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN MORE DETAIL ON NOVEMBER 14TH.
ANOTHER COMPONENT IS COMMUNITY RECYCLING.
SO DO YOU WANT TO DO A COLLECTIONS TEAM FOR RENEWING RECYCLING SERVICES QUICKLY AFTER THEY WERE INTERRUPTED IN THE SPRING? BUT OUR COMMUNITY RECYCLING SYSTEM IS CHANGING, SO SUSTAINABILITY AND SOLID WASTE ARE WORKING ON THIS TOGETHER.
SO STAFF WILL TALK ABOUT THIS MORE ON OCTOBER 10TH.
BUT JUST WHAT THAT MEANS, THAT INCLUDES TABLING AT FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY MARKET AS WELL AS COMMUNITY BUILDINGS, RECYCLING BIN CHECKS, CALF COUNTRY RADIO ADS, MOUNTAIN LION BUS ADS AND SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND PAID ADS.
SO HERE'S A SPOTLIGHT ON ANOTHER PROGRAM, THE FOUR CORNERS CARBON COALITION.
SO THAT ADDRESSES THE CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL STRATEGY WITHIN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.
THIS IS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO ASSIST WITH MARKET TRANSITION.
SO THIS PROJECT IS RETROFITTING BLOCK LIGHTS FLAGSTAFF MASONRY PLANT TO STORE CARBON IN CONCRETE.
SO THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.
BUT CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL IS A VERY BIG PART OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.
SO PROJECTS LIKE THIS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
SO MOVING ON, WE HAVE SERVICES.
SO THIS SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS WASTE FOOD AND HEPA AIR PURIFIERS.
SO THAT ADDRESSES A COUPLE DIFFERENT TARGET AREAS IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, INCLUDING SUSTAINABLE CONSUMPTION, COMMUNITY RESILIENCE AND EQUITABLE SYSTEMS. SO THERE'S A NEW COMMUNITY GARDEN AT THE HAL JOHNSON RECREATION CENTER.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN, ANOTHER COLLABORATION WITH PROS.
SO THANK YOU TO PROS FOR YOUR HELP WITH THAT.
AND THAT'S STARTING IN OCTOBER.
MOVING ON TO THE HEPA FILTERS, THE HEPA AIR PURIFIERS.
SO, WE'RE IN THE FOURTH ROUND OF GRANT FUNDED AIR PURIFIER DISTRIBUTION.
THIS IS FOR VULNERABLE HOUSEHOLDS.
SO AGAIN, THIS HAS HELPED MEETING THOSE COMMUNITY RESILIENCE AND EQUITABLE SYSTEMS STRATEGIES, ANOTHER PROGRAM, SO THE FLOOD PROOF ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. SO, THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM SINCE THE LAST CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN UPDATE IT HELPS RESIDENTS PROTECT THEIR HOMES FROM FLOODING AND IT PROVIDES UP TO $2,500 PER HOUSEHOLD TO PURCHASE FLOOD PROOFING MATERIALS.
ROUND TWO WILL OPEN IN OCTOBER.
ANOTHER SPOTLIGHT IS THE ENERGY REBATES PROGRAM.
SO THAT FOCUSES ON A LOT OF CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN TARGET AREAS, INCLUDING ELECTRIC MOBILITY, EQUITABLE SYSTEMS, FUEL SWITCHING AND REDUCED BUILDING ENERGY. SO THESE HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY ARE BEING UPDATED.
SO LAST YEAR COMMUNITY MEMBERS RECEIVED $100,000 IN FUNDING FOR ENERGY REBATES.
SO THIS IS ENERGY EFFICIENCY AS WELL AS HOME ELECTRIFICATION.
SO THOSE REBATES ARE PROVIDED TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND THIS DIRECTLY BENEFITS FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS.
AND I WILL NOTE THAT LARGER REBATES ARE PROVIDED FOR LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.
WE HAVE AN ENHANCED WOOD STOVE REBATE THAT'S COMING.
SO THAT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A WOOD STOVE WHO WANT TO UPGRADE TO A MORE EFFICIENT MODEL.
ALSO, E-BIKE REBATES FOR LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AND AN IMPROVED PROCESS FOR ELECTRIC PANEL UPGRADES TO SUPPORT SOLAR SYSTEMS. ALL RIGHT. AND ONE LAST SLIDE IN MY PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
SO SOLAR UNITED NEIGHBORS OR SUN.
SO, THIS IS A CO-OP AND IT IS LAUNCHING OCTOBER 2ND, 2023.
SO INSTALLATIONS ARE PROJECTED TO BEGIN IN EARLY 2024.
AND JUST LOOKING AT THE PAST TWO ROUNDS OF SOLAR UNITED NEIGHBORS, ALMOST 120 PEOPLE FROM FLAGSTAFF INSTALLED SOLAR THROUGH THIS SOLAR CO OP AND ALMOST 13,000 TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE WERE OFFSET.
ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR MY PORTION.
JENNA ORTEGA IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT CAPACITY BUILDING.
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GENEVIEVE.GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL.
IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK UP HERE AGAIN.
GENERAL ORTEGA, I'M EXCITED TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER TOOLS WE USE.
AND I'M GOING TO START WITH CAPACITY BUILDING.
SO THIS METHOD IS ALL ABOUT COMMUNITY AND EMPOWERMENT.
SO WE STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY CAPACITY THROUGH SOME OF OUR LONG STANDING PROGRAMS, AND THAT INCLUDES FIXIT CLINICS, WHICH WORK TO REALLY DEVELOP FLAGSTAFF CIRCULAR ECONOMY OR ONE OF OUR FAVORITE PROGRAMS, NEIGHBORHOOD SUSTAINABILITY GRANTS, WHICH THIS YEAR OFFERS UP TO $7,500 TO FUND COMMUNITY LED PROJECTS.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME NEWER PROGRAMS LIKE THE STREAM STEWARDS PROGRAM, WHICH REALLY BUILDS ON THE MODEL OF THE ADOPT THE AVENUE OR ADOPT A FOOT'S PROGRAM OR THE CLIMATE RESILIENCE PROJECT, WHICH OFFERS OPPORTUNITIES FOR INTERGENERATIONAL COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS AS WELL AS HANDS ON WORKSHOPS. REALLY WONDERFUL PROGRAM TO HIGHLIGHT.
HERE IS THE FLAGSTAFF YOUTH CLIMATE SUMMIT.
SO LAST APRIL, AROUND 100 STUDENTS GATHERED FOR A FULL DAY LONG EVENT.
THEY WERE ALL GREAT. BUT SOME STUDENTS AT FLAGSTAFF HIGH, THEIR NATIVE AMERICAN CLUB, IS WORKING ON A HOPI HOUSE AND CULTURAL CENTER TO CELEBRATE THE ASPECTS OF THE OF HOPI CULTURE THAT SPEAK TO SUSTAINABILITY.
ANOTHER PROJECT BEING LED BY A THIRD GRADER IN OUR COMMUNITY IS TO BUILD ARTWORK TO REALLY SHOW THE CARBON FOOTPRINT IN CLASSROOMS. SO SHE'S WORKING ON THAT ACROSS A HANDFUL OF CLASSROOMS, SOME OTHER REALLY NEAT PROGRAMS AS WELL.
SO I'M GOING TO SWITCH GEARS HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO TRANSITION INTO OUR MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
THIS IS THE WORK THAT WE DO INTERNALLY TO ACHIEVE OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS.
THE FIRST WAY WE DO THIS IS THROUGH DATA.
I'M THRILLED TO SHARE THAT TODAY.
AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT OR ADU SURVEY WAS LAUNCHED AND THIS IS GOING TO HELP US LEARN ABOUT PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES WITH ADUS, THEIR INTERESTS, THE CHALLENGES THAT MIGHT BE ASSOCIATED, AND REALLY IMPORTANTLY, WHAT THE CITY CAN DO TO MAKE IT EASIER.
AND IF THERE'S INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE THIS FOR MEDIUM OR LONG TERM RENTALS.
AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO PASS IT BACK TO JENNY REAL QUICK.
I'M POPPING UP HERE JUST TO QUICKLY DO A SPOTLIGHT ON FLEET ELECTRIFICATION.
AND SO WE FIGURED IT WAS A GOOD TIME TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT OUR INTERNAL PROCESS.
THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS WHAT'S CALLED AN EV FIRST POLICY.
IT'S NOT AN EV ONLY POLICY, RIGHT? IT IS AN EV FIRST POLICY THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT EVS FIRST.
RIGHT. AND SO HERE THIS IS JUST FROM OUR INTERNAL SORT OF POLICY AND GUIDANCE DOCUMENT.
IT GOES THROUGH DIFFERENT CLASSES OF VEHICLES.
THIS IS PRETTY REFLECTIVE OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AS NEW VEHICLE REQUESTS COME THROUGH TO COUNCIL.
SO FIRST, IT MIGHT BE SEDANS AND SUVS.
EXCEPTIONS ARE MADE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WE KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT WHERE THE STAFF PEOPLE SAY THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK AS AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE OR WHAT WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE IS WE CAN'T FIND ONE, IN WHICH CASE THAT'S OKAY.
AND YOU ALL HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF SORT OF THOSE EXCEPTIONS COME THROUGH LATELY.
WE ALSO HAVE POLICIES FOR THE OTHER CLASSES OF OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
SO MAYBE A FIRE TRUCK, MAYBE A BULLDOZER.
THESE WE KNOW THAT THE EV MARKET ISN'T THERE YET, RIGHT? THEY ARE NOT READILY ACCESSIBLE.
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SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT EXIST, BUT THEY ARE INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE.RIGHT. OR THEY MIGHT EVEN JUST BE AT A TRIAL PHASE, LIKE FOR A FIRE TRUCK.
AND SO THERE WE KIND OF KNOW AND WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A REALLY EVOLVING FIELD.
AGAIN, THIS IS FROM OUR INTERNAL GUIDANCE DOCUMENT.
THE FIRST QUESTION IS, IS REPLACEMENT NECESSARY? THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS BEEN REALLY INCREDIBLE OVER THE YEARS ABOUT ASKING IS THIS REPLACEMENT NECESSARY? HOW CAN WE RIGHTSIZE OUR FLEET AND ALSO RIGHTSIZE THE VEHICLES? AND SO FOR A VERY LONG TIME, FOLKS HAD SAID, WELL, WE CAN RETAIN IT FOR ANOTHER YEAR, RIGHT? WE CAN GO BEYOND 100,000 MILES OR, YOU KNOW, CAN WE ACTUALLY REDUCE THE SIZE OF OUR FLEET AND SAVE COSTS FOR THE CITIES OR CAN WE SHUFFLE AROUND VEHICLES? WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF SECTIONS DO THIS AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE DON'T NEED TO REPLACE THIS TRUCK RIGHT NOW.
LET'S REPLACE AN EASIER TO ELECTRIFY VEHICLE, FOR INSTANCE.
THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHAT KIND OF VEHICLE SHOULD BE BOUGHT? THAT'S WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DOWNSIZING.
SMALLER VEHICLES ARE GENERALLY LESS EXPENSIVE VEHICLES.
AND SO CAN WE ACTUALLY GO WITH SMALLER VEHICLES? AND THEN FINALLY, VEHICLE FUEL CHOICES.
THIS IS REALLY WHERE THE ELECTRIFICATION QUESTIONS COME IN AGAIN.
FIRST, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT CAN BE AN EV.
IF IT CAN'T BE AN EV, TOTALLY.
OKAY. THEN WE MOVE INTO CAN IT BE A PLUG IN HYBRID? CAN IT BE A HYBRID? AND IF NOT, THEN WE GO WITH AN INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE.
THERE'S ABOUT 40 ELECTRIC VEHICLES YOU CAN BUY TODAY ACROSS THE US.
EVS HAVE PERFORMANCE BENEFITS, A LOT OF FUEL SAVING BENEFITS AND MAINTENANCE BENEFITS.
THIS IS THE ENTIRE AUTO INDUSTRY, NOT JUST THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE INDUSTRY, BUT WHAT WE HAVE SEEN THAT COMBINED WITH IS THE DEMAND FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES HAS REALLY BEEN OUTPACING SUPPLY.
AND SO FOLKS HAVE HAD LONG DELAYS WITH GETTING VEHICLES.
AND THE DELAYS ARE REALLY TOUGH, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY'RE PROMISE THAT WE CAN GET THOSE VEHICLES AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE CANNOT.
AND SO THEN STAFF NEED TO REALLY PIVOT HERE.
WHAT WE ARE WORKING TO DO IS SUPPORT OUR STAFF MEMBERS IN FINDING THE BEST VEHICLE FOR THE JOB.
THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY SAYS THAT THE MOST IS OUR FLEET MANAGER, NATE.
HE'S REALLY INCREDIBLE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS AND IS A TRUE PARTNER TO US.
SO AGAIN, I'M SPEAKING ABOUT THIS, BUT THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF STAFF THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THESE PROCESSES, BUT WE WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE FLEET SERVICES TEAM TO TRY TO SUPPORT OUR TEAM MEMBERS IN GETTING THEM THE VEHICLE THAT THEY NEED, WHETHER THAT'S ELECTRIC OR NOT.
HAND IT BACK TO JENNA. THANKS, JENNY.
ALL RIGHT. SO MOVING ON HERE, OUR NEXT METHOD IS MUNICIPAL CARBON NEUTRALITY.
AND THIS IS REALLY ABOUT US WALKING THE TALK, IF YOU WILL.
IT'S HOW WE ARE TAKING ACTION INTERNALLY AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL, IN THE BUILDINGS WE WORK IN, HOW WE GET AROUND AND WHAT WE BUY IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE OUR COMMUNITIES.
THE ENERGY CONSERVATION OR THE ENERGY CONSERVATION AND WATER CONSERVATION PROJECT WILL IMPROVE BOTH ENERGY AND WATER CONSERVATION ACROSS 44 CITY FACILITIES, REDUCING OUR EMISSIONS AND LEADING TO APPROXIMATELY $305,000 IN UTILITY SAVINGS ANNUALLY.
I'M GOING TO START WITH JUST A PIECE OF A REALLY LARGE TABLE.
YOU CAN SEE THE THREE BIG AREAS.
WE TALK ABOUT BUILDINGS, TRANSPORTATION AND WASTE.
THESE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR A MAJORITY OF OUR EMISSIONS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE PRIORITIZE THEM WHEN WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT THESE IN EACH AREA.
WE DO WORK BOTH INTERNALLY AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL AND AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KIND OF SHOWING HERE.
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SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED TODAY HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON REDUCING OUR EMISSIONS, SUCH AS THE ENERGY CONSERVATION PROJECT I JUST MENTIONED, OR ELECTRIFYING OUR FLEET.OTHERS LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR CREATING CHANGE AND ARE IN THE POLICY DEVELOPMENT STAGE.
AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE BUILDING CODE UPDATE.
SO I KNOW THAT'S A LOT TO LOOK AT.
TO WRAP UP WITH YOU. WE WOULD LIKE TO END WITH WHAT'S NEXT.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE WERE AWARDED FUNDING THROUGH THE RESILIENT SOUTHWEST BUILDING CODE PROJECT.
IN ADDITION TO OUR AWARDED AND SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS, WE ARE WORKING ON SEVERAL MORE APPLICATIONS.
AN APPLICATION THAT'S IN THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE IS THE SOLAR FOR ALL THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF RESILIENCE, AND THIS IS TO INCREASE SOLAR INSTALLATIONS ACROSS THE ENTIRE STATE.
FOR INSTANCE, OUR OFFICE WAS AWARDED 184,000 THROUGH THE US DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE THROUGH THEIR INNOVATIVE PRODUCTION PROGRAM TO CARRY OUT DATA COLLECTION, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND POLICY CHANGE AROUND FOOD ACCESS AND FLAGSTAFF.
COUNCIL, I WANTED TO CLOSE BY, JUST LOOKING FORWARD A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF UPCOMING PRESENTATIONS, MANY OF WHICH WE ARE DOING WITH OUR INTERNAL PARTNERS.
THE FIRST IS THE MOVING NEEDLE, THE NEEDLE PRESENTATION.
THIS IS WITH SUSTAINABILITY, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ENGINEERING, AMONG OTHERS.
THAT SAME DAY, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WILL LEAD A PRESENTATION ON A WIDE SPANNING PROJECT ON OUR LAND AVAILABILITY, AVAILABILITY, ASSESSMENT AND OUR CODE ANALYSIS PROJECT.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT EV CHARGING STATIONS.
I KNOW WE PREVIEWED A LITTLE BIT OF DATA BEFORE AND WE WANTED TO HAVE A FOCUSED CONVERSATION ON THAT, NOT TO PUT IT ALL WITHIN HERE, BUT TO GIVE COUNSEL TIME TO DIG INTO THE DATA, TO REALLY LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR HOW WE SHOULD TREAT THESE EV CHARGING STATIONS GOING FORWARD AND HOW SHOULD WE THINK ABOUT PUBLIC ACCESS TO THEM.
IN DECEMBER WE WILL BE HERE WITH OUR NEW PARTNERS.
A GRADUATE CLASS HAS BEEN WORKING ON A PROJECT TO MAP EQUITY ACROSS FLAGSTAFF.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
AND THEN IN FEBRUARY WE'LL BE HERE FOR OUR NEXT BIANNUAL UPDATE.
AND DURING THAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO FOCUS ON THE DATA.
ALL RIGHT. ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING, HOW IS THAT ACTUALLY REDUCING EMISSIONS? AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN MY NEXT SLIDE REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE WE CLOSE SEPTEMBER 30TH.
SO IN FOUR DAYS IS THE CLOSING OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SUSTAINABILITY GRANT APPLICATION PERIOD.
THIS IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE THING WE DO, AND I DON'T EVEN TOUCH IT.
BUT IT'S WE ESSENTIALLY PROVIDE FUNDING INTO THE COMMUNITY FOR COMMUNITY LED CLIMATE AND RESILIENCE PROJECTS, RIGHT? IT MEANS THAT THE CITY IS ACTUALLY PUTTING THE POWER INTO THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE TO BUILD RESILIENCE IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS.
RIGHT. AND THROUGH THEIR COMMUNITY GROUPS OR THEIR SCHOOLS OR ET CETERA.
SO PLEASE TELL EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, TO APPLY BY SEPTEMBER 30TH.
ON OCTOBER 2ND, OUR SOLAR UNITED NEIGHBORS, ARIZONA NORTHERN ARIZONA CO-OP WILL LAUNCH.
THIS HELPS ESSENTIALLY NEIGHBORS TO GET TOGETHER TO DO A SORT OF COLLECTIVE BUYING OF SOLAR.
WE PARTNER WITH COCONINO COUNTY AND SEDONA ON IT.
SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST A PROGRAM THAT WE'RE THRILLED ABOUT THAT WILL LAUNCH FOR SIGNUPS ON OCTOBER 2ND.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING BACK OUR OLD CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN WEDGE.
THIS WAS SORT OF A FEATURE OF A LOT OF OUR CONVERSATIONS TWO YEARS AGO, AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS IN FEBRUARY WHEN WE PRESENT BASICALLY THIS KIND OF SHOWS HOW WE WILL MAKE PROGRESS, HOW WE WILL REDUCE EMISSIONS ACROSS OUR COMMUNITY.
SO COMPOST COLLECTION REALLY GETS AT THAT FIRST TOP WEDGE THERE.
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VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED.YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT AND ABOUT HOW WE THINK ABOUT OUR ROADWAYS.
RIGHT. AND HOW WE THINK ABOUT ENCOURAGING ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION.
ELECTRIC VEHICLES, THAT'S OUR CHARGING STATIONS.
RIGHT. SO WHAT WE WILL DO IN FEBRUARY IS WE WILL TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO REALLY JUST DIG THROUGH THE DATA AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE KIND OF INCHING DOWN THIS WEDGE TO MEET OUR GOALS. SO THAT IS IT.
I JUST WANT TO END WITH SOME GRATITUDE AS WELL AS AN INVITATION.
WE ARE TRULY GRATEFUL FOR THE LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORT OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO BRING US THE TOUGH QUESTIONS, WHO ENGAGE THEIR NEIGHBORS, WHO BRING CREATIVE IDEAS INTO CLIMATE ACTION.
WE ARE WE ALL ARE PART OF CLIMATE ACTION.
WE WILL ONLY REACH OUR GOALS THROUGH A BROAD BASE OF SUPPORT AND OF ACTION.
COMMENTS. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
I SEE IN YOUR SO-CALLED WEDGE THAT REMOVAL OF THAT'S THE BLUE PART ON THE BOTTOM WHERE REMOVAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE IS A BIG DEAL.
BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE.
SO MAYBE IN THE FUTURE YOU CAN BRING THAT TO US.
THAT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING.
OF COURSE, ABSOLUTELY. WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO.
AND MAYBE IN FEBRUARY WE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON THAT.
WE THE FOUR CORNERS CARBON COALITION IS WORKING ON.
BUT THIS IS A VERY NEW FIELD AND YOU ARE RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A WHOLE LOT MORE OF IT.
OF COURSE. VICE-MAYOR AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
AND ALL THE OTHER NON GENS IN THE SUSTAINABILITY TEAM.
A LOT OF HARD WORK GOES INTO ALL THIS.
REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.
WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND WILDFIRE PREVENTION.
I CAN SHARE HERE AT THE DAIS THAT I'M I HAVE A SKEPTICISM AND A RELUCTANCE TO USE THE PUBLIC PETITION PROCESS TO HELP MICROMANAGE THESE BIG SHIPS THAT WE HAVE MOVING THAT TOOK YEARS TO DEVELOP AND BUILD.
I'M WONDERING IF YOU'RE WILLING OR ABLE AT THIS TIME, OR MAYBE THERE'S A BETTER TIME THAT YOU GUYS ARE THINKING, I DON'T KNOW, TO SORT OF PREVIEW YOUR THINKING AS AN OFFICE AROUND THE CITIZEN PETITION THAT'S COMING BEFORE US THAT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT EXTENSIVELY LAST WEEK, AND I'M SURE WE'LL GET ANOTHER PRESENTATION FROM THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST COMMUNITY GROUP THAT HAVE COME TO US WITH SO MANY GREAT IDEAS AND HOW TO INTEGRATE THOSE IDEAS, WHICH ARE DEFINITELY, AT THE TIME, FALL OUTSIDE OF THE CURRENT CARBON NEUTRALITY APPARATUS, BUT STILL HAVE A PLACE TO PLAY IN OUR IN OUR COMMUNITY DISCOURSE AND OUR OVERARCHING GOALS.
SO I CAN I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK ABOUT IT.
AND I INVITE NICOLE IF SHE HAS THOUGHTS AFTERWARDS.
YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST THING THAT I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT IS 100% RIGHT.
LIKE FLOODING AND FIRE AND DROUGHT ARE SO INCREDIBLY CRITICAL.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY PART OF THE REASON THAT WE REVISE THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN LAST YEAR IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BRING ALL OF THOSE REALLY GOOD IDEAS FROM THE 2018 CLIMATE ACTION ADAPTATION PLAN AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THIS.
AND THAT IS HOW WE GOT SO MANY TARGET AREAS IN THIS PLAN BECAUSE IT TRIES TO DO A LOT OF THINGS RIGHT? SO COMMUNITY RESILIENCE, HEALTHY FORESTS AND OPEN SPACE, WATER SECURITY, THEY ALL SORT OF ADDRESS THESE THINGS.
BUT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT FIRE AND FLOODING AND DROUGHT, THE BIGGEST THING THAT I ALWAYS GO BACK TO IS IT'S ALL ABOUT COLLABORATION, RIGHT? SO WE KNOW THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR WILDLAND FIRE FOLKS PARTICULARLY, BUT THE BROADER FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL, OUR STORMWATER DEPARTMENT,
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OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION, SORRY, WE HAVE DIVISIONS, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION, RIGHT.AND SO WE DO OFTEN FOCUS A LOT ON THE THINGS THAT OUR OFFICE WORKS ON, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE ARE UP HERE AND SPEAKING TO YOU.
BUT WE DEFINITELY CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF LIFTING UP HOW WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR OTHER FOLKS.
SO WE DO SO MUCH COLLABORATION THERE.
AND I COULDN'T AGREE MORE THAT BEING RESPONSIVE TO THE DEMANDS OF EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS, OF THE CHANGING CLIMATE IS SO INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. AND THAT'S WHY PREPAREDNESS AND RESILIENCE ARE ONE OF THE THREE GOALS OF THIS PLAN.
I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE DOING A LOT AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT ON THE FRONT OF WILDFIRE AND FOREST HEALTH FLOODING MANAGEMENT AND THAT THE CURRENT CFP TARGET AREAS ARE WHAT WE'RE DEFINING AS THE WAYS TO TACKLE OUR CLIMATE EMERGENCY.
IN ADDITION TO THOSE THINGS WHICH HAVE A MUCH BROADER REACH IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OTHER AGENCY INVOLVEMENT. MY, NICOLE, I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE GOING TO GET UP AND ADD TO THIS, SO WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND SAY WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT? AND THEN, MAYOR, I HAVE AN UNRELATED QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
GREAT. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION.
IT IT MAKES ME THINK IN THIS I'M DATING MYSELF FOR HOW LONG I'VE BEEN AT THE CITY.
AND GUESS WHAT? FIRE, DROUGHT AND FLOODING WERE THE TOP THREE AREAS THAT WERE WE WERE AT HIGHEST RISK FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE OUR SERVICES AND PROVIDE TO THE CITY ORGANIZATION. I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WILDLAND FIRE AND WATER SERVICES, TO HAVE A JOINT CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL OF WEAVING THIS TOGETHER AND WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.
AND SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO TO LEAD THAT DISCUSSION AND GET EVERYONE AT THE PROVERBIAL TABLE, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT THIS IS HITTING AND I HOPE THAT THIS EVENING OR THIS AFTERNOON'S PRESENTATION REALLY HIGHLIGHTS AND IT GOES BACK TO THAT INGREDIENT SLIDE.
THE INGREDIENTS OF CARBON NEUTRALITY REALLY SPAN THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION.
AND SO WE ARE AT A POINT, I BELIEVE WE'RE AT A JUNCTION WITH OUR WORK THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT BROADER CONVERSATION OF HOW ALL THESE PIECES FIT TOGETHER.
THANK YOU. JENNY, MY OTHER QUESTION IS REGARDING THIS.
THREE PAGER YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER.
THIS IS GREAT. IT'S GREAT TO SEE IT.
I'M WONDERING IF IT'S READY TO GO OUT YET IF YOU HAVE COPIES OF THIS EVEN FOR DISTRIBUTION TO OUR AUDIENCE MEMBERS TODAY AND IF THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S AVAILABLE IN A CUBBY UP FRONT EVERY TUESDAY.
YES. AND WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON NOT JUST SHOWING THIS TO THE SEVEN OF US UP HERE, BUT MAKING SURE IT'S IT'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE? YES. I WAS ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE A COUPLE TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TONIGHT.
WE PLAN TO DISTRIBUTE IT MORE WIDELY IN THE FUTURE.
SO, YEAH, WE'LL ABSOLUTELY HAVE IT.
SOMEONE CAN HAVE MINE IF THEY NEED IT.
I KNOW I CAN GET ANOTHER COPY EASILY.
THANKS. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I ENJOYED IT. I LEARNED A LOT.
OFTENTIMES WHEN PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS, THEY MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT.
PEOPLE ASSUME THAT THE PERSON ASKING THE QUESTION IS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
SO THAT'S NOT TRUE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND YOU ALL CAN EITHER ANSWER THEM NOW OR YOU CAN TAKE THEM BACK AND FIGURE IT OUT AND GET BACK TO ME. AND THE REASON THAT I'M GOING TO ASK THEM AT THE DAIS RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE I THINK THAT OTHER PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE SITTING HERE PROBABLY HAVE THOSE
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SAME QUESTIONS.AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK THEM AND I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF FIRE THEM OFF.
I LOVE IT. NO, AND I'M GOING TO FIRE THEM OFF.
AND I'M SURE THAT IT'S RECORDED SOMEWHERE AND SOMEBODY CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE QUESTIONS.
SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T MEET OUR GOAL BY 2030? DON'T NEED TO ANSWER IT RIGHT NOW.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS? SO DOES THE WORLD BLOW UP OR WHAT? NO, AND I'M SERIOUS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T MEET THAT GOAL? I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER NOW, IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
NO, THE WORLD DOESN'T BLOW UP.
RIGHT. AND I THINK WHAT YOU ACTUALLY SEE IS THROUGHOUT THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES, AS WE'VE BEEN CALLING FOR CLIMATE ACTION, THE WORLD HAS ESSENTIALLY BLOWN THROUGH ITS TARGETS. WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO READJUST.
RIGHT. AND SO THE CITY WILL BE ASKED TO READJUST AND SAY THIS IS WHERE THE WORLD IS, RIGHT, ON AN INTERNATIONAL BASIS ON HOW MANY EMISSIONS ARE IN THE AIR AND WHAT SORT OF CLIMATE IMPACTS WE HAVE.
AND THIS IS HOW WE NEED TO ADJUST.
RIGHT. ON WHAT ARE WE SEEING TODAY.
RIGHT, BECAUSE WE'LL GET TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, THIS IS WHERE WE WERE.
THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF DIDN'T MAKE ITS TARGETS.
RIGHT. OR MAYBE ONLY HALF OF THE WORLD'S CITIES DID RIGHT.
BUT THAT WILL BE OUR CHANCE TO READJUST, TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.
RIGHT? THIS IS WHEN WE THINK THE PONDEROSAS ARE GOING TO GO.
RIGHT. THOSE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS I PREFER TO HAVE.
THIS IS HOW WE HAVE STRENGTHENED OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THESE THREATS.
WE HAVE RESILIENCE HUBS ALL OVER THE PLACE NOW, RIGHT? MAYBE THOSE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING IN 2030 THAT SAYS WE KNOW WHERE FOLKS NEED TO GO IF THE POWER GOES OUT OR IF THEY NEED TO GET AWAY FROM THE SMOKE.
IT'LL BE VERY BASED ON KIND OF THE CONDITIONS AT HAND IN TERMS OF BOTH THE BAD SIDE, BUT AGAIN, ALSO THE GOOD SIDE AND HOW DO WE TELL THAT STORY, RIGHT? AND HOW DO WE REALLY THINK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY ASSETS IN THAT WAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO BUILD FROM NOW UNTIL THEN, BASICALLY.
HOW ARE YOU WORKING WITH NATA TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION? IF YOU'RE ASKING FOLKS TO NOT USE THEIR CARS, HOW ARE YOU WORKING WITH NATA TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GETTING TO EVERYONE THAT NEEDS TO RIDE THE TO GET TRANSPORTATION SOMEWHERE? DON'T ANSWER THAT NOW BECAUSE THAT COULD BE ANOTHER WHOLE AND I'M REALLY, I GUESS, CONSCIOUS OF MY COLLEAGUES AND I DON'T WANT TO KEEP EVERYBODY HERE ALL NIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE WE COULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THIS FOR FOREVER.
AND WE LOVE NATA. SO, YOU KNOW, AND WE TRY TO SUPPORT THEM IN EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO.
ALL RIGHT. AND IS THERE A CHARGE FOR CHARGING AT THE PUBLIC CHARGING STATIONS? BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THAT.
AND THEN HOW ARE WE ENSURING THAT THE INFORMATION REGARDING THESE FUNDING PROGRAMS THAT YOU MENTIONED, HOW ARE WE ENSURING THAT THOSE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS GETTING TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT, THE FOLKS THAT ARE NOT SITTING HERE TONIGHT, PEOPLE THAT DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WATCHING THIS ONLINE, BUT WE KNOW THAT THEY NEED THESE RESOURCES.
SO HOW ARE WE ENSURING THAT THAT INFORMATION IS GETTING TO THEM? AND AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER.
CAN I? BUT WHAT YOU CAN GO AHEAD.
SO THAT PROGRAM IS TO HELP FOLKS BUY MATERIALS TO FLOOD PROOF THEIR HOMES.
SHE ALSO HELD, I THINK, COUNTLESS OPEN HOUSES AND TRIED TO REALLY GET IT OUT THERE.
WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT GOOD IN IN ALL OF OUR PROGRAMING.
RIGHT. BUT THAT THAT PROGRAM IS ONE AREA WHERE JENNA REALLY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND.
SO THANK YOU, JENNA, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE, RIGHT? WE KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO TAKE.
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RIGHT. TO GET OUT TO FOLKS BECAUSE.RIGHT. SOCIAL MEDIA ISN'T GOING TO CUT IT.
RIGHT. WE NEED TO REALLY DO THAT DIRECT ENGAGEMENT.
WE ACTUALLY ARE REALLY EXCITED TO WORK WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO HELP US GET THAT WORD OUT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF TIMES IT IS GOING TO JUST TAKE GOING TO DOOR TO DOOR OR SHOWING UP IN THE GROCERY STORE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE WANT TO BE IN.
PART OF THAT WORK IS ALSO WHY WE BRING IN OUR AMERICORPS MEMBERS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE TO REALLY DO THAT KIND OF DIRECT WORK THAT'S FOCUSED ON THE VISTA PROGRAM IS FOCUSED ON FOLKS LIVING IN POVERTY.
RIGHT. AND SO HOW DO WE GET THAT OUT THERE? SO THANK YOU.
WELL, I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION IS THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE ADOPTED TWO EMERGENCIES, A HOUSING EMERGENCY AND THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY. WE'VE ADOPTED BOTH OF THOSE.
SO HOW DOES WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN CLIMATE GET US MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING? AND THAT MAY BE A LONGER QUESTION, I THINK, BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO DO WHO ARE BUILDING IN OUR COMMUNITY MAKES IT MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO, HOW DOES THAT GET US TO MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MARKET HOUSING.
I'M TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THAT'S THE END OF MY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. I'M HAPPY TO START.
WE ALSO LOVE OUR FRIENDS IN HOUSING.
WE HAD A REALLY COOL CLIMATE RESILIENCE EVENT THIS SUMMER ACTUALLY, WHERE HOUSING CAME IN AND TALKED ABOUT THIS AND TALKED ABOUT HOW HOUSING AND SUSTAINABILITY GOALS ARE SO ALIGNED AND SO TOGETHER.
WHAT WE WANT TO HELP KIND OF THE MARKET TO THINK ABOUT AS WELL AS FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN INCENTIVIZE IS THAT SUSTAINABLE HOUSING IS ACTUALLY CHEAPER OVER THE LONG TERM.
RIGHT. BUT IT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE CHEAPER UPFRONT.
AND SO HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT LOWERING THOSE COSTS ON FRONT, UP FRONT THROUGH INCENTIVES, RIGHT.
TO HELP ACTUALLY BRING DOWN THOSE COSTS SO THAT THEN FOLKS, WHEN THEY HAVE A MORE EFFICIENT HOUSE AND THEY HAVE LOWER UTILITY BILLS, THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN UPFRONT BARRIER TO GET INTO THAT HOUSE IN THE BEGINNING.
RIGHT. WE ALSO WORK A LOT ON DENSITY, RIGHT.
AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE KIND OF COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ADDING MORE HOUSING AND FLAGSTAFF IS A GOAL THAT HOUSING AND SUSTAINABILITY KIND OF WE COULD GO ON ALL DAY ABOUT ABOUT HOW THAT'S GOOD FOR ALL OF US.
RIGHT. AND HOW INCREASED DENSITY WILL HOUSE MORE FOLKS IN TOWN AND ALSO BE INCREDIBLY GOOD FOR EXCUSE ME FOR BOTH OF OUR GOALS. ONE SPECIFIC THING AND I CAN SHOUT OUT GENEVIEVE WHO WE LAUNCHED OUR ADU SURVEY TODAY.
SO ADUS ARE ONE EXAMPLE OF IF WE CAN GET MORE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN BACKYARDS, RIGHT? SO THESE MIGHT BE LIKE CASITAS, RIGHT? WE CAN GET MORE OF THOSE IN BACKYARDS THAT NOT ONLY INCREASES OUR HOUSING SUPPLY, BUT ALSO MEANS THAT WE'VE GOT FOLKS WHO NOW CAN LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY COULDN'T ACCESS BEFORE.
RIGHT? THAT THEY HAVE EASY BUS ACCESS.
RIGHT. THAT ADD HOUSING ALSO ADDS SMALL HOUSING.
RIGHT? ALSO ADD HOUSING MAYBE FOR SOMEBODY'S PARENTS WHO MIGHT WANT TO COME LIVE WITH THEM.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF COLLABORATIONS THERE.
AND I AGREE THAT HOPEFULLY IT CAN BE A LONGER CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY.
YEAH, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST AS SIMPLE AS ALL OF THAT.
BUT YOU ALL CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.
I JUST WANT THE QUESTION OUT THERE AND I WANT US TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THIS IS SERIOUS AND I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW IT, BUT WE HAVE TO ASK THE TOUGH, HARD QUESTIONS SO THAT WE CAN MEET OUR GOALS.
AND IF WE'RE NOT ASKING THOSE TOUGH AND HARD QUESTIONS, THEN WE'RE NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.
THANK YOU FOR THE HARD QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I WANTED TO SHOW APPRECIATION.
YOU LISTEN TO WHAT WE REQUESTED, AND I AT FIRST GLANCE, I THINK IT'S GREAT.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE ADU CONVERSATION.
I DID. I HAD A HOUSE THAT HAD AN ADU IN THE BACK.
AND I CAN TELL YOU IT WAS BENEFICIAL FOR NOT ONLY THE RENTER, BUT FOR ME AS WELL.
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT SURVEY RESULT.
AND ALSO THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THE FLEET ELECTRIFICATION AND THE CONCERNS SURROUNDING THAT.
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I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WITH THE INCENTIVES FOR THOSE WHO ARE FLOOD IMPACTED.
YOU SAID THAT THAT THE MONEY COULD GO TOWARD MAKING THEIR HOME MORE RESILIENT AGAINST FLOODING.
COULD IT ALSO GO TOWARD PURCHASING FLOOD INSURANCE? OKAY. UH, NO, NO, YOU CANNOT.
SO IT REALLY IS JUST FOR THOSE MATERIALS.
AND JENNA, DO YOU WANT TO MAYBE ADD A LITTLE BIT THERE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
SO, THIS FUNDING IS SOME FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WE WORKED WITH STORMWATER ON.
SO, SHOUT OUT TO STORMWATER TO WHICH WE DIDN'T GET TO MENTION EARLIER, BUT WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE EXPERTS ON THAT SIDE TO KIND OF IDENTIFY SOME OF THE MATERIALS THAT ARE BEST FOR WHAT WE CALL DRY FLOOD PROOFING, SO PREVENTING WATER FROM COMING INTO YOUR HOME.
SO, THESE ARE SOME BARRIERS THAT CAN BE EITHER KIND OF INSTALLED ON YOUR DOORS OR WINDOWS.
AND THERE'S ALSO SOME SEALANTS FOR LIKE CONCRETE SLAB FOUNDATIONS TO BE ABLE TO SEAL THAT OFF.
SO THIS MONEY IS NOT FOR INSURANCE, BUT WE DID AS PART OF THE GRANT APPLICATION, IT WAS OPTIONAL, BUT I ASKED A HANDFUL OF QUESTIONS OF WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE? WHAT ARE YOUR BIGGEST NEEDS WITH A LIST OF THEM AS WELL AS A BUNCH OF SPACE TO WRITE IN? SO WE ARE EXCITED TO GET THAT DATA AND GO AFTER FUNDING FOREVER UNTIL WE CAN TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THEIR HOMES ARE SAFE FROM FLOODING.
FLOOD INSURANCE, BUT IT'S JUST COST PROHIBITIVE AND THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO.
ALONG THE LINES OF NOT JUST FLOODING, BUT ANY OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT YOU'RE DOING.
DURING AND AFTER THE FLOOD EVENTS, SEVERAL OF US WENT DOOR TO DOOR HANDING OUT INFORMATION.
AND I THINK PROBABLY SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, MYSELF INCLUDED, WOULD BE WILLING TO GO DOOR TO DOOR WITH MATERIALS ABOUT CARBON NEUTRALITY AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CITY.
SO I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE AND THE ADU PILOT PROJECT.
WE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT CREATING A SET OF PLANS OR A COUPLE OF SET OF PLANS THAT WERE ALREADY APPROVED SO THAT PEOPLE COULD COULD BUILD THESE MORE COST EFFECTIVELY.
WHAT EXACTLY IS INVOLVED IN YOUR PILOT PROJECT? MAYOR DAGGETT. GENEVIEVE PEARTHREE HERE.
SO JUST TO TO RECAP THIS PILOT PROJECT, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF INTERNAL PARTNERS INVOLVED.
SO IT'S SUSTAINABILITY, BUT ALSO PLANNING, HOUSING AND BUILDING, I BELIEVE.
BUT WITH THE RAPIDLY RISING COSTS OF CONSTRUCTION, LABOR, WE REALLY FELT LIKE WE NEEDED A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THE BARRIERS ACTUALLY ARE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A PILOT PROGRAM FOR MODEL PLANS THAT DEFINITELY STILL IS ON THE TABLE.
IT'S ACTUALLY A QUESTION IN THE SURVEY ABOUT IF FOLKS WHO HAVE BUILT AN ADU, IF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL FOR THEM OR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THEM.
BUT WE REALLY FELT LIKE WE NEEDED JUST A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF SOME OF THE BARRIERS.
SO THAT SURVEY TARGETS FOLKS WHO HAVE BUILT AN ADU.
THERE'S QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS.
I HOPE THEY GET THROUGH ALL OF THEM BECAUSE THEY'LL BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR US, BUT ALSO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED AND ALSO ALLOWS RENTERS TO DISCUSS THEIR PERCEPTIONS OF LIVING IN AN ADU TOO.
SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET BROAD COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVES ON THIS.
BUT IT TARGETS SPECIFICALLY DETACHED ADUS.
IT DOESN'T TARGET INTEGRAL OR ATTACHED.
ADUS SO WE KIND OF JUST BEFORE WE REALLY JUMPED INTO THAT, WANTED TO GET SOME BETTER DATA.
SO WE'LL DEFINITELY PRESENT THOSE RESULTS TO YOU IN WHEN WE'RE READY.
AND IS THE SURVEY AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE? YES, IT'S ON THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY FORUM.
AN ANNOUNCEMENT WENT OUT THIS MORNING AND IT WILL BE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET A LOT OF PRESS ABOUT IT.
BUT FEEL FREE TO SHARE IT WITH YOUR NETWORKS.
THE GREATER THE RESPONSE RATE, THE BETTER.
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WE HAVE JILL STEVENSON.GREETINGS, MAYOR, VICE, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IT IS ENCOURAGING THAT YOUR SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE HAS HAD A PLACE ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE HEARING FROM THEM.
THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS A MAJOR MISTAKE THAT THESE FOLKS WERE NOT INVITED TO ATTEND COUNCIL MEETINGS DURING THE NIH DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL DISCUSSIONS AND RESULTING DECISION TO APPROVE REZONING.
AND I WONDER WHY THAT WAS, THAT THEY WERE NOT VERY MUCH INVOLVED.
WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A CLIMATE CRISIS.
WE ALMOST NEED TO PANIC ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S REAL.
WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF THIS WORSENING CLIMATE.
NUMEROUS SPECIES HEADED TOWARDS EXTINCTION, WORLD SUFFERING AND LOSS OF LIFE.
THESE CLIMATE DRIVEN EFFECTS ARE STEADILY AND RAPIDLY WORSENING.
YOU AS COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE POWER IN DEALING WITH LOCAL ISSUES.
THE MORE PEOPLE USING PEDAL AND FOOT POWER AND ELECTRIC POWERED ALTERNATIVES, THE LESS GREENHOUSE GASES EMITTED INTO THE AIR THAT WE BREATHE. PLEASE REMEMBER YOUR STATED GOAL OF CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030.
IN EVERY DECISION THAT YOU MAKE.
PLEASE DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS.
FIRST, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE EFFORTS OF THE CITY AND SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT FOR HOW MUCH WORK THEY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED WITH REGARD TO MITIGATING CLIMATE CHANGE.
IT WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
I KNOW I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE HERE, BUT IT DOES BEAR REPEATING.
ACCORDING TO THE LATEST IPCC REPORT, RADICAL CHANGES ARE REQUIRED ON A SYSTEMIC LEVEL. AND EVERY AVAILABLE MEASURE NEEDS TO BE UNDERTAKEN TO HAVE THE CHANCE OF KEEPING GLOBAL WARMING BELOW 1.5 DEGREES.
THE IPCC, WHICH IS THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE, A PART OF THE UNITED NATIONS, ALSO CONTINUES TO STATE THE WORLD MUST RAPIDLY SHIFT AWAY FROM BURNING FOSSIL FUELS.
I RESPECTFULLY RECOMMEND A PROMPT IMPLEMENTATION OF YOUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, INCLUDING TRANSITIONING TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND PROMOTING ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION TO HELP ACHIEVE CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR KIND ATTENTION AND ACTION ON THIS.
BORN AND RAISED IN FLAGSTAFF ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
NOW, WE HAVE A SITUATION HERE BECAUSE, MRS. HARRIS, YOU SAID YOU ASKED SOME QUESTIONS.
YOU SHOULD JUST GO LOOK AT THE MINUTES FROM 1999 TO 2000 WHEN THEY ADDRESSED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THE GOP AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE MANIPULATED NUMEROUS SCENARIOS.
I MEAN, 11 MONTHS THEY CAME BACK.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. LET'S DO THIS, THIS AND THIS.
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76, 72,000 185,000.WAS SO IN A FLUX BECAUSE GREED.
THE REALTORS SHOULD NOT EVEN BE IN THE BUSINESS.
THEY'RE PARASITES. IT'S A CANCER.
IT'S CALLED THE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE WHO GETS ALL THE MONIES FROM ALL THESE PROPERTIES.
IT'S CALLED TAXES, PROPERTY TAX.
SO THEY HAVE AN ASSESSED VALUE.
BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN, BECAUSE THIS PIECE OF GARBAGE REALTOR WANTS TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY, HE'LL GO TO CALIFORNIA OR OTHER MORE AFFLUENT AREAS AND SAY, HEY, YOU GOT A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, 2300FT².
BUT WE HAVE A CERTIFIED SCHOOL.
TOP OF THE TOP-OF-THE-LINE HOSPITAL.
ALL THE AMENITIES OF A BIG CITY.
IT WAS A SMALL-TOWN ATMOSPHERE.
THE ANDY GRIFFITH NEIGHBORHOOD.
FOR YOUNGSTERS THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, IT'S ABOUT A SMALL KNIT FAMILY COMMUNITY.
EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY. YOU KEEP YOUR DOORS OPEN.
EVERYBODY TAKES CARE OF EACH OTHER.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAD HERE UNTIL 23 YEARS AGO WITH THE GREED.
NOW, WITH THIS SAID, WE HAVE A SITUATION HERE WHERE THE HOUSING MARKET BLEW UP.
AND I ACTUALLY SAID IT IN 1999 AND 2000.
YOU CAN GO LOOK AT THE RECORDS HERE.
I SAID THE HOUSING MARKET IS GOING TO CRASH IN 7 TO 10 YEARS AND IT ACTUALLY CRASHED IN SEVEN YEARS.
THE MARKET, THE REALTORS, THEY ALL HAVE TO END.
THE DEVELOPERS HAD TO DROP THE PRICES.
SO, THEY SAID, OKAY, LET'S JUST SAY THEY'RE ABANDONED AND THEY'RE OBSOLETE.
AND THAT'S HOW THEY MANIPULATED THE MARKET WITH HOME DEPOT, LOWE'S.
AND IT'S ARTIFICIAL CORRUPTION AND NEPOTISM BY A BUNCH OF CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, GOP, EVEN DEMOCRATS FACILITATING TO LINE THEIR OWN POCKETS. NOW YOU HAVE A SCENARIO WITH THE OPEN SPACE.
NOW YOU HAVE THE FLAGSTAFF HOSPITAL WANTS TO BUILD OVER HERE IN FRONT OF THE OPEN SPACE, WHICH THANK YOU, MISS SPACE MONEY'S OVER 30 MILLION WAS ACQUIRED BY THE TAXPAYERS WHEN THEY VOTED FOR IT TO NOT TO NOT PUT GARBAGE LIKE THAT OVER THERE.
AND THANK YOU VICE MAYOR ASLIN SAID YOUR TIME IS UP ON 480.
JOHN FEGAN VERASY AND THANK YOU FOR.
ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
I TEACH IN THE CLIMATE SCIENCE PROGRAM OVER HERE AT NYU.
SEVERAL OF MY STUDENTS ARE ACTUALLY HERE TONIGHT.
EVERY POUND OF CO2 THAT WE'RE NOT EMITTING IS A GOOD THING AND IT'S FANTASTIC SEEING ALL THESE UPDATES AND ACTUALLY SEEING LIKE THIS INITIATIVE REDUCED OUR EMISSIONS BY THIS EXACT NUMBER.
I LOVE SEEING THAT. IT TICKLES MY LEFT BRAIN VERY MUCH SO.
AND I THINK THE THE PLAN ACTUALLY SAYS SOMETHING LIKE WE HAVE TO REDUCE OUR EMISSIONS BY 44%, BUT ALSO REMOVE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND POUNDS OF CO2, WHICH YOU COMMENTED ON COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT WHAT THAT TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
AND WE SEE WE SEE THE WEDGE DIAGRAM.
AND I THINK I IMAGINE MANY PEOPLE ARE LOOKING THAT AND THINKING LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE? SO, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS MAYBE SEEING A FIGURE OR TWO OF LIKE WHAT OUR EMISSIONS HAVE LOOKED LIKE AND ACTUALLY KIND OF EXPRESSING THAT URGENCY OF LIKE, THIS IS WHERE OUR EMISSIONS ARE GOING IN THE CITY.
AND YET THIS IS ALSO WHERE THEY'RE COMING DOWN WHEN WE'RE DOING THESE THINGS.
LIKE I KNOW THAT WOULD BE REALLY EXCITING TO SEE.
LIKE, LOOK, WE IMPLEMENTED THESE FIVE THINGS AND LOOK AT WE'RE ACTUALLY REDUCING OUR EMISSIONS.
THOSE THE MATH IS COMING DOWN.
I THINK PERSONALLY THAT WOULD BE VERY SATISFYING TO SEE BECAUSE OSTENSIBLY THERE'S SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE IN SOME BACK ROOM THAT'S LIKE DOING THE MATH, THAT'S ACTUALLY DOING THE INVENTORY AND DOING THE CALCULATIONS OF THIS IS WHAT GOES IN, THIS IS WHAT GOES OUT.
SO IN 2030, THAT NUMBER IS ZERO.
HOPEFULLY, YES, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL ROOTING FOR.
BUT I KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS.
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IF I BUY SOMETHING ON AMAZON, DOES THAT PACKAGE THAT I PURCHASE THAT WAS SHIPPED TO MY HOUSE, DO THE EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH EVERYTHING RELATED TO THAT OBJECT COUNT IN OUR EMISSIONS? LIKE WHAT GOES INTO ALL THAT MATH I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT.AND I'M SURE IT'S ALL IN THE PLAN AND I JUST HAVEN'T READ IT FULLY.
AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN SEE THAT IN THE UPDATE COMING UP.
SO I GUESS I GUESS THAT WAS MY COMMENT.
I WISH I WOULD HAVE HAD YOU AS A TEACHER.
I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT CALCULATING CARBON FOOTPRINT.
SO WILL THAT BE PART OF THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU MAKE? YES, THAT WILL BE SO AT OUR NEXT UPDATE, WHICH SHOULD BE ABOUT FEBRUARY, WILL BREAK OUT THAT WEDGE GRAPH.
I DO WISH WE HAD AN ACCOUNTING TEAM, JOHN.
THE ACCOUNTING TEAM IS US, SO THERE'S THAT.
BUT WE WILL BE BREAKING THAT OUT.
WE DO OUR GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY EVERY TWO YEARS NOW.
WE FOUND OUT MOST MUNICIPALITIES DO IT EVERY THREE YEARS OR EVERY FIVE YEARS.
SO BUT WE DO HAVE DATA ON ALL OF THESE THINGS.
WE CALCULATE THAT DATA, WE'VE PLANNED FOR IT.
SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO DIVE INTO THAT IN FEBRUARY.
THANK YOU. AND BUILDING OFF OF JENNY'S COMMENT, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ACTUALLY I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ESTABLISH IS A REALLY STRONG FOUNDATION FOR THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO TO ACHIEVE THESE GOALS.
AND MOVING THE NEEDLE HAS BEEN VERY MICRO AT THIS STAGE ONE BECAUSE OF FUNDING AND TWO, BECAUSE AS GENEVIEVE MENTIONED NUMEROUS TIMES, WE NEED TO ALIGN POLICY WITH GOALS.
AND IF THE COUNCIL, SOME OF THE COUNCIL MAY RECALL, SOME WEREN'T ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME, BUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, WE KNEW THAT WE HAD TO SPEND A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME CREATING A FOUNDATION TO MAKE THIS WORK.
AND SO THE THE NEEDLE PROVERBIAL NEEDLE HASN'T MOVED A LOT, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVEN'T BEEN FOCUSING ON DATA JUST YET, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN NEEDING TO GET EVERYTHING IN ORDER TO REALLY LAUNCH AND LAUNCH EFFECTIVELY.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT A LOT OF GOOD WORK HAS NOT BEEN DONE.
AS YOU SAW, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING INTO THOSE EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS.
BUT WE NEED TO ALIGN THOSE POLICIES WITH GOALS REALLY TO START SEEING SOME SIGNIFICANT SHIFTS.
ALL RIGHT. NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT.
[9. City Code Updates for Bushmaster Park Sport Courts with Lighting Controls Sport court hours of play that are lighted limited to 10:00 PM Sunday through Monday. Staff suggest that the sport courts at Thorpe Park are included in this code change. ]
THANK YOU.DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO FOLLOW THAT ACT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
AMY HAGEN, ASSISTANT PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS CITY CODE UPDATES THAT PERTAIN TO PARK LIGHTING.
THIS IS A DISCUSSION, SO WE'LL MOVE.
I DON'T HAVE VERY MANY SLIDES AND THEN WE'LL JUMP INTO OUR DISCUSSION.
ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO GO OVER WHAT THE CURRENT HOURS ARE.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT I ALSO HAVE UNDERLINED THEIR PARK HOURS BECAUSE IN OUR CURRENT CITY CODE, THE LIGHTING HOURS AND WHEN PARK HOURS ARE OPEN OR AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.
SO THOSE ARE CURRENTLY SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 5 A.M.
AND THEN FRIDAY, SATURDAY, 5 A.M.
AND WE CAN HOP BACK TO THESE WHENEVER WE WOULD LIKE TO.
THE ONLY AND THEN THERE'S A NOTE THERE AT THE BOTTOM UNLESS PERMITTED FOR A USE OTHERWISE.
AND I'M GOING TO COVER WHAT SOME OF THOSE ITEMS ARE.
OTHERWISE WHEN WE GET TO ANOTHER SLIDE HERE.
SO WHAT STEPH DID AFTER OUR MID-MAY MEETING WAS WE STARTED TO REVIEW WHAT OTHER PEER CITIES WITHIN THE STATE ARE DOING WITH THEIR BOTH LIGHTING HOURS AND PARK HOURS.
WE REVIEWED SOME EXAMPLES UP THERE.
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YOU KNOW, NATURALLY, MANY CITIES TEND TO MIMIC EACH OTHER.AND THEN THERE ARE A FEW OUTLIERS.
BUT FROM A STAFF LENS, CONSISTENCY WAS GOING TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS.
IN ADDITION TO THIS RESEARCH, WE STAFF CONSIDERED SOME EQUITY CONSIDERATIONS BECAUSE IN MID-MAY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT JUST SPORT COURTS AT BUSHMASTER PARK, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SPORT COURTS AT THORPE PARK, AND THOSE ARE FOUR TENNIS COURTS THERE.
AND I DO WANT TO NOTE SOMETHING THAT IS DIFFERENT FOR US AS STAFF.
WE HAVE THESE SPORT COURTS WHICH TEND TO BE RACKET SPORTS OR BALL SPORTS.
THOSE ARE AT CONTINENTAL PARK, JOEL MONTALVO PARK AND MARK GRACE FIELD.
THEN WE HAVE OUR THORPE SOFTBALL COMPLEX THAT IS A PART OF OUR ADULT ATHLETIC PROGRAMING.
SO I DO WANT THE COUNCIL TO NOTE THAT THESE ITEMS ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT.
WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT SPORT COURT LIGHTING, NOT BALL FIELD LIGHTING, BECAUSE ALL OF THAT IS UNDERNEATH A PERMIT, WHETHER WITH THAT USER GROUP OR WITHIN OURSELVES FOR OUR ATHLETIC PROGRAMING.
CAN I STOP YOU THERE FOR JUST A SECOND? SO AT THORPE PARK, THE LIGHTS ARE ON FOR THE HOURS THAT YOU INDICATED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, CORRECT? YES. SO THEN LET'S MOVE ON TO STAFF SUGGESTIONS.
SO STAFF SUGGESTED HOURS FOR BOTH LIGHTING ON THE SPORT COURTS AND JUST IN GENERAL.
PARK USE HOURS WOULD BE LET'S BE AGAIN CONSISTENT SUNDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, SUNRISE TO 10 P.M.
WE ALL KNOW SUNRISE WILL VARY DEPENDING ON THE SEASON, BUT THAT WOULD BE A SUNRISE TO 10 P.M.
AND AGAIN, STILL WITH THAT CAVEAT OF UNLESS PERMITTED FOR A USE OTHERWISE.
MY NEXT QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE WHEN DO WE GET TO DISCUSS THIS? SO, THIS IS GOOD. THIRD SLIDE.
WE'LL GO BACK TO THIS ONE BECAUSE THIS IS THE STAFF SUGGESTION.
AND I CAN GO BACK TO WHAT THE CURRENT CITY CODE HOURS ARE TOO, IF DESIRABLE.
COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? VICE MAYOR.
START. AH, MAYBE I'LL START OFF OUR DISCUSSION WITH HAVING YOU REMIND US OF WHAT THE GENERAL CONSENSUS WAS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED PICKLEBALL AT BUSHMASTER PARK.
BUT PLEASE, TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD REVIEW WITH US WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, IF NOT DECIDED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CONVERSATION AROUND APPROVING PICKLEBALL COURTS AT BUSHMASTER, OF COURSE.
SO IN THAT DISCUSSION ON MAY 16TH, WE DID GO BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE LIGHTING EXISTS TODAY ON THE TWO TENNIS COURTS AND THE TWO BASKETBALL COURTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY DUAL STRIPED FOR EIGHT PICKLEBALL COURTS.
SINCE LIGHTING EXISTS TODAY ON THE SPORT COURTS AT THAT LOCATION.
THAT THEN CREATED THE DISCUSSION OF DO WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE HOURS OF WHEN LIGHTS CAN BE ON AT AT ANY SPORT COURT LOCATION? OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT REVIEW.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH SENSITIVITY AROUND THE NOISE AND THE DISRUPTION THAT PICKLEBALL CAN CREATE AT LARGE LEVELS AND LARGE VOLUMES IN THIS CLOSE KNIT COMMUNITY.
I WILL JUST SAY RIGHT OFF THE BAT, I AM AMENABLE TO CONSIDERING LESSER HOURS OF OPERATION.
THIS IS ALSO YOU KNOW, IT COINCIDES WITH MY ZEITGEIST AROUND DARK SKIES, PRESERVATION AND MAYBE FLAGSTAFF, YOU KNOW, BEING LESS FRIENDLY TO NIGHTTIME OUTDOOR SPORTS ACTIVITIES THAN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHO DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF CONSIDERATION.
IT'S REALLY NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S SYNERGISTIC WITH THAT, WITH THAT ETHOS.
AND I UNLESS I'M HEARING FROM OUR PRO STAFF THAT THERE IS A PARTICULAR.
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COMPUNCTION OR URGENCY AROUND MAKING SURE THAT LIGHTING DOES STAY ON LATER.AND IF THAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION, I INVITE YOU TO TO ARTICULATE IT VERY STRONGLY.
BUT I'M, I DON'T THINK I'M HEARING THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND IF IF THAT'S IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD THROW THIS OLIVE BRANCH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS AROUND BUSHMASTER PARK, BECAUSE I COULD SEE HOW PICKLEBALL USE LATE INTO THE NIGHT IS EVEN MORE DISRUPTIVE AND MORE UNFAIR THAN WHAT WE'RE ALREADY.
INTRODUCING WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL PICKLEBALL FACILITIES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
WELL, THANK YOU, MR. ASLAN. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.
WELL, I'LL ASK A QUESTION OF STAFF FIRST BEFORE I MAKE MY OTHER COMMENTS.
ARE YOU TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES ARE RIGHT IN BACK OF PEOPLE'S YARD TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S EXTREMELY ANNOYING VERSUS OTHER ONES WHERE THE ACTIVITIES ARE PRETTY FAR AWAY FROM ANYBODY'S HOUSE? SO I WOULD THINK THAT THOSE WOULD BE LIKE.
SO ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? AGAIN, WE REVIEWED WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING WITHIN THE STATE.
MAJORITY ARE A SUNRISE TO 10 P.M.
FOR BOTH SPORT COURT LIGHTING AND FOR JUST IN GENERAL PARK USE.
SO IT'S NOT A FOREIGN CONCEPT COMPARED TO THESE COURTS AT BUSHMASTER PARK.
BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE IS SOME MISUSE AT BOTH PARK LOCATIONS WITH THE LIGHTING FROM NON SPORT USERS RATHER THAN JUST WANTING THE LIGHTING TO COME ON TO ENJOY OTHER PARTS OF THE PARK, WHICH IS WHY I THINK AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS IS THAT THIS INCLUDES SPORT COURT LIGHTING PLUS JUST IN GENERAL PARK HOURS. OKAY.
A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN PARTICULAR NEAR BUSHMASTER.
THEIR BACKYARDS ARE USELESS FOR QUIET RECREATION UNTIL THE BALL GAMES ARE OVER.
SO IN EFFECT, WHAT THAT'S SAYING IS IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GO SIT IN THEIR BACKYARD AND SIP LEMONADE AND JUST CHAT WITH FAMILY MEMBERS AND ENJOY THEIR PATIO.
THEY CAN'T EVEN START UNTIL 10:00.
SO. AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY GO TO BED AT 10:00.
SO I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT A MUCH EARLIER LIMIT ON LIGHTING AND WHICH IN EFFECT IS.
DETERMINES HOW MUCH NOISE IS CREATED.
I'M SORT OF WITH WHERE MR. ASLIN IS, BUT I'M THINKING ABOUT LIKE 8:00 OR SOMETHING, BUT WHATEVER.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW.
AND I'M WONDERING WHETHER WE HAVE DATA ON JUST GENERAL PARK USAGE FROM BETWEEN 8 P.M.
AND MY THINKING IS, AND I KNOW THIS THROWS A WRENCH INTO IT, BUT COULD THERE BE A LATER TIME FOR JUST GENERAL PARK USAGE AND SPORT COURTS LIGHTING GOING OFF BEFORE THAT? MAYOR THERE COULD BE THIS.
THE STAFF SUGGESTION IS IN AN EFFORT FOR CONSISTENCY.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND WE'RE OPEN TO ANY IDEAS.
THIS WAS JUST THE STAFF'S SUGGESTION.
VICE MAYOR. JUST IN TERM OF THE CONCEPT OF CONSISTENCY, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THAT BECAUSE AS YOU POINTED OUT, THE SUN SETS AT VARIABLE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
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THAT AN HOUR AFTER THE SUN SETS, THE LIGHTS ARE OFF.BUT THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST WHERE MY DEFAULT THINKING IS ON THIS SUBJECT.
I DO THINK IT'S WEIRD THAT IF WE JUST SET 9 P.M.
AND IT'S 845 IN THE MIDDLE OF JULY AND IT'S TIME TO PARK, SHUT THE PARK DOWN, AND YOU STILL GOT FAMILIES OUT BARBECUING, PLAYING ON ALL THAT PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT FINALLY COOLING OFF AFTER A HOT DAY.
THAT SEEMS A LITTLE WEIRD, KEEPING IT OPEN TILL 9 P.M.
WHEN IT'S OCTOBER AND IT'S BEEN DARK FOR FOUR HOURS.
ALSO SEEMS BURDENSOME TO LOCAL NEIGHBORS, SO IT MAY BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR POLICE AND AND FOR ENFORCEMENT OR MANAGEMENT, BUT IT SEEMS TO MAKE MORE SENSE.
AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME ADD THAT COMMENT TO THAT.
PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY SAYING.
COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERATE OF THE OTHER STAFF WHO HAVE THE JOB OF ENFORCING.
I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING, HOW WILL YOU KNOW IF I'M A POLICE OFFICER AND I GO TO THE PARK AND IF I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO WHEN SUN WENT DOWN AND I HAVE TO LOOK AT MY WATCH AND SAY, OKAY, DID THE SUN GO DOWN AT 7:00 AND IT'S 8:00 NOW, OR DID THE SUN GO DOWN AT 8:00 AND NOW IT'S 10:00 OR 9:00? I THINK IT'S JUST GETS WAY TOO CONFUSING.
I WOULD MUCH RATHER US SET A TIME FROM THIS TIME TO THIS TIME AND THEN JUST BE DONE WITH IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THIS ISSUE OF BEING CONSISTENT WITH OTHER CITIES.
I WILL SAY THAT IN MY LONG LIFETIME I'VE LIVED IN TUCSON, I'VE LIVED IN TEMPE, AND I'VE LIVED IN PHENIX, AND OBVIOUSLY I'VE LIVED IN FLAGSTAFF FOR OVER TWO DECADES NOW.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT IN ALL THOSE OTHER CITIES, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY RULES ON OUTDOOR LIGHTING.
NO ONE CARED ABOUT DARK SKIES BUT THIS CITY.
WE TOOK THE LEADERSHIP ROLE AND WE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT DARK SKIES IN RESPECT THAT HERE.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S ASTRONOMERS IN THOSE OTHER CITIES, TOO.
KITT PEAK IS PRETTY CLOSE TO TUCSON AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT IMPORTANT THAT WE FOLLOW THE LEAD OF THE TEMPS AND THE.
THE PHOENIX'S AND THE TUCSON'S.
I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE OUR OWN DETERMINATION BASED ON THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS.
AND I'M THINKING OF 8:00 IS A GOOD TIME.
COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET. THANK YOU.
SO MY THOUGHT ALIGNS WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS THAT I, YOU KNOW, TO EASE A LOT OF THE THE EFFORTS THAT NEED TO GO IN WITH KEEPING THE TIME THAT WE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT AND I LIKE THE MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY OR THE SUNDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
I THINK WHEN I WAS OUT THERE WITH YOU, WE WERE TALKING AND MY COMFORT ZONE WAS 9 P.M.
SO I'M OKAY WITH ADJUSTING TO EIGHT.
I DO FEEL THAT TEN MIGHT BE A LITTLE LATE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU. ARE THE LIGHTS PROGRAMED AT EACH INDIVIDUAL PARK OR IS THERE A CENTRAL PROGRAMING? THE LIGHTS ON THE SPORT COURTS ARE AT EACH INDIVIDUAL PARK.
SO WHATEVER TIMEFRAME WE CHOOSE FOR OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU WERE TO TURN IT ON AT, SAY, WE CHOOSE 9 P.M., YOU TURN IT ON AT 815, THEY'RE GOING TO GO OFF AT 9 P.M.
SO THEY'RE NOT ON A A TIMER WHERE THEY COME ON.
SOMEONE IS MANUALLY THEY'RE ALL MANUAL TURNING THOSE ON.
AND AS WE'RE REPLACING LIGHTS, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING THAT'S TIMED WHERE IT JUST GOES OFF AT NINE EVERY NIGHT AND COMES ON? THEY'RE ALL RED. THEY ARE ON A TIMER.
MAYOR, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT ENABLED TO GO ON ILLUMINATE BEYOND THE CURRENT TIME.
SO THEY WOULD NOT BE COULD NOT BE ILLUMINATED BEYOND THAT STOP TIME AND THEN THEY WOULD NOT COME ON IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS BEFORE THE SUN WERE TO RISE. OKAY.
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SO. I'M HEARING.I TOO, THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE UNIFORM AND.
I'M HEARING FLEXIBILITY THERE.
I THINK WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE EARLIER THAN TEN.
YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS? WE DO.
AND SO I SAW A LOT OF NODDING OF HEADS THAT.
THAT WE'RE FEELING THE SAME WAY.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR.
OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M LAURA SHARON A 23 YEAR RESIDENT, I GUESS OF FLAGSTAFF RETIRED NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
I'M GOING TO START BIG PICTURE, BUT I PROMISE I WILL GET TO LIGHTING.
I WANT TO START WITH A QUOTE FROM THE GREEK PHILOSOPHER BION.
BOYS THROW STONES AT FROGS IN FUN.
BUT THE FROGS DID NOT DIE IN FUN.
THIS PERSON SPOKE THIS OVER 2000 YEARS AGO.
BUT I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS ALL SUMMER AS I THINK ABOUT PICKLEBALL.
AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ITS PLANS TO INSTALL THESE COURTS AT BUSHMASTER PARK, BECAUSE AT EVERY STEP WE'VE HEARD HOW MUCH FUN PICKLEBALL IS, HOW HEALTHY, HOW BENEFICIAL FOR ITS PLAYERS, WHAT A GREAT COMMUNITY.
AND BECAUSE THEY MEAN NO HARM, NO HARM MUST BE DONE.
BUT WE'VE ALSO HEARD FROM PARK NEIGHBORS AND USERS THAT HARM IS DONE IN EARNEST.
THOSE TREES WILL DIE IN EARNEST.
ONE MORE PIECE OF GREEN SPACE WILL BE GONE FROM BUSHMASTER PARK AND FLAGSTAFF FOREVER.
IF YOU HAVE MADE UP YOUR MINDS, AS IT UNFORTUNATELY APPEARS, I HOPE YOU WILL AT LEAST CONSIDER THE LONG TIME RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE AFFECTED IN EARNEST.
SCHOOL KIDS WITH EARLIER BEDTIMES.
PEOPLE WHO WORK EARLY IN THE MORNING, PEOPLE WITH NO AIR CONDITIONING AS IS.
WHAT IS THE CASE IN THAT GENERALLY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, TRYING TO SLEEP WITH PEOPLE LIKE ME? I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.
HERE I WOULD ADVOCATE VERY DEEPLY FOR NO LIGHTS AT ALL.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THREE REASONS FOR THAT.
ONE IS IT ENGINEERS? LET'S NOT WORRY ABOUT PARK HOURS.
ENGINEER IN THE HOURS THAT PEOPLE PLAY PICKLEBALL BY NOT HAVING LIGHTS YOU ENGINEER IN AN END TO PICKLEBALL PLAY WITHOUT CHANGING ANYTHING ELSE.
IT ALLOWS PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT FOR WORKING PEOPLE.
IT WILL CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AS LIGHT COMES AND GOES, IT WILL SAVE MONEY.
I HAVE HEARD THAT IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE TO MITIGATE SOUND.
AND THIRD, IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN NOT TO BE INSTALLING NEW LIGHTS.
AGAIN. STONE BOYS MAY STILL THROW STONES AT FROGS IN FUN, BUT FROGS DON'T DIE IN FUN.
THIS IS REAL FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
THIS DIFFICULTY IS IN EARNEST.
AND I ASK YOU IN ANY WAY YOU CAN TO MITIGATE.
SHE SAID SHE WAS HERE 12 YEARS.
THIS LADY SAYS, YOU KNOW, 20 SOME.
AND FLAGSTAFF US ARMY VETERAN.
LIKE I SAID, I RAN FOR COUNCIL ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS FACILITATING NUMEROUS PROGRAMS. NOW WE HAVE A SCENARIO HERE WHERE WE HAVE DARK SKIES.
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HARRY GUTTER AND ALL THE OTHER ASTRONOMERS THAT WORK THERE.I LOVED HIM. I LOVE HIM SO MUCH.
BUT WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE.
WHERE? AGAIN, CARBON NEUTRALITY.
THAT'S WHY WE PUT UP FOR OPEN SPACE AND SPEND $34 MILLION BOND TO FACILITATE THAT.
NOW WITH THIS SCENARIO, VERY SIMPLE.
WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE NO LIGHT IN THE MORNING.
AND IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY LIGHTS AT ALL, 8:00, 830 MAYBE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS MINDSET THAT WE WERE PROGRAMED INTO BRAINWASHED STARTED IN THE 1912 WHEN WORLD WAR ONE WAS IMPLEMENTED TO FACILITATE 24 HOUR SHIFTS IN FACTORIES, AND THEN THAT ENDED.
SO THAT'S AN AREA THAT'S A DIFFERENT MENTALITY AND.
THE CORPORATE MONOPOLIES AND NEPOTISM.
BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ACROSS THE AISLE MAKING MAKING DEALS.
SO THE SCENARIO IS, IS THAT WE HAVE NUMEROUS ISSUES AND WE SAY, I WOULD RATHER SEE ELIMINATING FACTORIES OPENING UP AT FROM 8:00 UNTIL SIX. THEY SHOULD JUST BE FROM 8:00 TILL SEVEN.
WE'RE DIGRESSING. SAME THING WITH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
OH, YOU GOT TO HAVE YOUR SPOTLIGHT.
YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHTS ON AT FOUR IN THE AFTERNOON AND YOU'RE ON SOME OF THESE INTERSTATES.
AND AGAIN, AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT MANIPULATED ANOTHER 7 MILLION.
7.5 MILLION, ALMOST 8 MILLION HOMES IN THIS COMMUNITY ALSO FACILITATED LIGHT POISONING.
SO WE NEED TO ADDRESS ALL THOSE ISSUES.
NICE TO SEE YOU. I WAS NOT PREPARED TO HEAR SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE PROBLEM WITH LIGHTING.
BUT I'M JUST I'M NOT GOOD AT IMPROVISING.
BUT I HAD SOME WORDS PREPARED AND AND I'LL SHARE WHAT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND I START BY SAYING, DON'T YOU JUST LOVE OUR SUMMER EVENINGS AND FLAGSTAFF? OUR SUMMER WEATHER IS WELL KNOWN, ANTICIPATED AFTER LONG WINTERS BY LOCALS AND COVETED BY OUT-OF-TOWNERS.
DON'T YOU JUST LOVE SPENDING THOSE EVENINGS WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES WITH MEALS AND DRINKS, OR JUST ENJOYING SOLITARY, CONTEMPLATING AND THE SOUND OF CRICKETS AND THE FRAGRANCE OF THE PINES? MY FRIENDS AND I HAVE ALWAYS SAID, WHY GO ANYWHERE ELSE, STAY HOME IN FLAGSTAFF FOR THE SUMMER.
WELL, THAT JOY HAS ALREADY BEEN STOLEN FROM ME, AS I TOLD YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
SOMETHING ABOUT THE LABOR DAY WEEKEND KEPT THEM AWAY THAT MONDAY EVENING.
I'VE ALREADY BEGUN LOOKING AT REAL ESTATE IN NEW MEXICO.
I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT WITH A REALTOR TO TALK ABOUT THE VALUE OF MY HOME OF 35 YEARS.
ONE THAT HAS EVERY BIT OF MY SAVINGS AND MY BACK INVESTED INTO IT.
CURSED BY PICKLEBALL, NOISE AND LIGHTS AND THE GENERAL INVASIVENESS.
AND IF MY VALUE GOES DOWN, THIS MAY BE THE POINT.
I'M SAD, THOUGH, THAT 18 TO 20 TREES WILL BE GONE FROM THE HEART OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THE DECISION TO TURN COURT LIGHTS OUT IN BUSHMASTER BY 10 P.M.
IS THE RECOMMENDATION BY STAFF AND SAYS IT WILL SET AN ORDINANCE FOR THORPE ALSO AND OTHER PARKS STAFF MENTIONS PEER CITIES WHO TURN COURT LIGHTS OUT AT 10:00.
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THE HELL OUT OF TOWN.I ALSO MAINTAIN THAT BUSHMASTER IS AN EXTRA SPECIAL PARK WITH ITS ADJACENT LIVING RESIDENCE.
MY VOTE IS FOR PICKLEBALL COURTS TO GO OUT AT 8 P.M.
OR I LIKE SOME OF THESE OTHER IDEAS TOO ABOUT MORE ABOUT OUR DARK SKY.
THIS IS KIND OF MY COMPROMISE.
WHILE BASKETBALL AND TENNIS GO OUT AT TEN, I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS AT THORPE.
CORRECT. ON THE PICKLEBALL COURTS? CORRECT. NO LIGHTS ON THE PICKLEBALL COURTS OR BASKETBALL COURTS AND.
UM, IF I COULD PUT YOU ON THE SPOT HERE TO SHARE SOME OF YOUR OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PARKS PONDEROSA HAVING NO LIGHTS AND OTHER PARKS HAVING LIGHTS.
DOES PONDEROSA GET USED? DO DO RESIDENTS AROUND THERE FEEL CHEATED THAT THEY DON'T HAVE LIGHTS TO PLAY, BASKETBALL AND SO FORTH? YOU KNOW, THE WELL, THERE'S A DRASTIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO PARKS.
SPECIFICALLY. PONDEROSA PARK IS A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AND BUSHMASTER PARK IS A COMMUNITY PARK WITH OBVIOUSLY TWO LARGE PARKING LOTS FOR MORE THAN JUST THE DIRECT NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO AND ENJOY AMENITIES AND MANY DIFFERENT AMENITIES AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL.
PARK PONDEROSA PARK, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, HAS BEEN IN A SPACE OF DISARRAY SINCE THE MUSEUM FLOODING, BUT THE COURTS ARE INTACT.
WE JUST HAD A LOVELY SUNS EVENT THERE LAST NIGHT.
DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE HOURS OR HOW THEY EXTEND INTO THE EVENING OR BEFORE THE SUN SETS.
SCENARIO SINCE PARK STAFF WERE NOT OUT THERE IN THE EVENING HOURS TO TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION.
BUSHMASTER PARK AND THORPE PARK ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR THOSE SPORT COURTS.
AND AT THORPE, IT'S JUST THE TENNIS THAT ARE LIGHTED.
BASKETBALL IS NOT LIGHTED AT THORPE PARK, BUT WE DO SEE NIGHTTIME PLAY AT BOTH THOSE LOCATIONS OF BASKETBALL, TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL AT BUSHMASTER PARK. THANK YOU.
MAYOR? YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHY I TURNED THE MIC ON TO CLEAR MY THROAT.
SO, MY THOUGHTS ON THIS HAVE REALLY BEEN RECEPTIVE TO THE ONGOING CONVERSATION THAT'S GOING ON.
I'M KIND OF GOING BACK TO WHERE I WAS AT THE BEGINNING.
AND WHEN I SAY AT THE BEGINNING, I'M TALKING ABOUT AT THE END OF MAY, WHEN I MAY BE WRONG ABOUT THIS, BUT MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT I THOUGHT THAT WE JUST SHOULDN'T HAVE LIGHTS AT BUSHMASTER FOR THE NEW PICKLEBALL COURTS.
AND IF THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE THEM FOR BASKETBALL AND THE OTHER.
I THINK I'D BE FINE WITH THAT.
IT FITS CLOSER TO MY INSTINCT THAT A VARIABLE TIME IN THE EVENINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR MAKES MORE SENSE AND IT DOES JUST SORT OF NATURALLY TAKE CARE OF ITSELF.
MAYBE NOT BY THE DAY WHERE IT'S AN HOUR AFTER OFFICIAL SUNSET ACCORDING TO THE IPHONE.
AND SO YOU SHUT IT OFF AT 7:42.
BUT BY THE MONTH, THE SHUT DOWN TIME IN OCTOBER IS THIS TIME IN NOVEMBER.
IT'S THIS TIME. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE TOO COMPLICATED OR UNWIELDY TO MANAGE.
IT'S MORE COMPLICATED THAN NOT DOING THAT.
BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE.
I THINK WE SHOULD JUST NOT PUT UP LIGHTS AT THE BUSHMASTER PICKLEBALL COURTS.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT WITH IT.
IF THE CONSENSUS ISN'T ALONG THOSE LINES, WE DEFINITELY HAVE ALL AGREED THAT 10 P.M.
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IS TOO LATE. I THINK 8 P.M.IF WE'RE NOT VARYING THE TIME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
WOULD BE THE SWEET SPOT THERE.
BUT I DO PREFER JUST NOT HAVING LIGHTS GO ON IN THE EVENINGS AT BUSHMASTER.
AMY, COULD YOU COULD YOU SHARE YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON EITHER NOT HAVING LIGHTS AT ONE PARK? AND HAVING DIFFERENT OFF TIMES DEPENDING ON SEASON.
ABSOLUTELY. AND YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY, TOO, FOR THIS COUNCIL.
I WANT TO SAY SIX YEARS AGO, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT USED TO TURN OFF SPORT COURT LIGHTS OCTOBER 15TH AND NOT TURN THEM BACK ON OR MAKE THEM AVAILABLE TO BE ON TO BE ON UNTIL APRIL 15TH.
WE STARTED TO RECEIVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, ESPECIALLY AS OUR TEMPERATURES WERE CHANGING AND WE WOULD HAVE THOSE LOVELY 70 DEGREE DECEMBER DAYS WHERE WE HAD COMMUNITY MEMBERS WANTING TO PLAY.
SO IT WAS 5 TO 6 YEARS AGO THAT WE BASICALLY PROVIDED TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND NOW WE'RE HERE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
AND THERE'S RESIDENCES ADJACENT TO BOTH OF THEM.
SO THAT'S AT THORPE PARK AND BUSHMASTER PARK.
AND I DO KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE YOUTH OUT THERE PLAYING AT NIGHT.
WE DO HAVE A LOT OF TENNIS PLAYERS.
TYPICALLY, I THINK THEIR PREFERENCE IS TO PLAY DURING THE DAY AT ALL OF OUR TENNIS LOCATIONS, BUT THEY WILL HAVE PERMITTED TIMES WHERE THEY MAY NEED COURTS AT NIGHT, AND THAT'S WHERE THIS, UNLESS PERMITTED FOR USE OTHERWISE, REALLY COMES INTO PLAY FOR ALL OF US IN OUR USER GROUPS.
I'VE HEARD FROM THE PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY, THEY'RE NOT THE GROUP ASKING FOR BEYOND 10 P.M.
I THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY MALLEABLE AND WORK WITH THE CITY ON THIS.
AND YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON CHANGING THE TIME THE LIGHTS GO OUT.
WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEPARATE LIGHTING FROM IN GENERAL PARK HOURS THIS EVENING.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME.
THAT'S JUST AN EFFORT FOR CONSISTENCY.
WE CAN AGAIN, DO WHATEVER WE WOULD LIKE TO TO HAVE PUT INTO PLACE THAT CONSISTENCY DOES IS IN EFFECT AT ALL THOSE OTHER PEER CITIES. SO THAT PARK IS ONLY OPEN TILL 10 P.M.
AND THAT'S ALL THEIR PARKS PLUS THE ABILITY TO HAVE LIGHTING, TO PLAY SPECIFIC SPORTS.
IT GOING TO ALWAYS BE VERY AMENABLE INTO WHAT WE THINK IS BEST.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? IF I PUT ON MY POLICE HAT, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO MANAGE THAT ASPECT.
SO WE WOULD HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL ON PARK STAFF OUT IN OUR PARK GROUNDS HELPING TO EDUCATE.
THEY'RE NOT THERE TO ENFORCE, BUT THEY'RE CERTAINLY THERE TO HELP EDUCATE, WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND BE ABLE TO INFORM US BETTER ON WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IN THOSE OFF HOURS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE OTHER STAFF WITHIN OUR PARK GROUNDS.
I THINK IT MATTERS FOR OUR COMMUNITY TOO.
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TO HAVE LIGHTS BECAUSE SOMEONE COULD BE LIKE, OH GOSH, WHAT DAY IS IT? OCTOBER 14TH.GREAT LIGHTS ARE GOING OUT TOMORROW KIND OF THING.
SO WE WERE SEEKING SOME OF THAT CONSISTENCY THEN TO.
COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT OR A QUESTION? I DO.
DO YOU WANT TO LET HER GO FIRST? OH, I DON'T SEE IT.
CERTAINLY, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.
SO, AMY, I JUST WANTED TO, AND YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS EARLIER, CURRENTLY OVER AT BUSHMASTER.
THE LIGHTS THAT ARE THERE ARE ON A USAGE BASIS.
IS THAT CORRECT? IF PEOPLE CAN TURN THEM ON.
THAT IS CORRECT, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS SO THEY'RE AVAILABLE.
IT'S A MANUAL TIMER AND THE TIMER HAS 60 MINUTES OR A ONE HOUR TIME TO IT.
AND THEY DO, BUT THEY ARE NOT PERMITTED TO BE ON PAST 10 P.M.
RIGHT NOW, SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY OR 12 A.M.
ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE MY RECOLLECTION WAS CORRECT.
UM, I DEFINITELY WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE.
THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING CONVERSATIONS I THINK WE'VE HAD THIS YEAR.
MAYBE NOT. BUT I DO WANT TO STAY IN THE THEME OF BEING RESPECTFUL OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THAT AREA AND THE NOISE ISSUE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT I'LL SUPPORT THE OTHERS WHO HAVE SAID 9:00 IS A GOOD TIME.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY? THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE COMPARING US TO OTHER CITIES THINGS.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN I LIVED IN PHENIX, MY MAJOR SPORT WAS BICYCLING.
I DID A LOT OF HEAVY BICYCLING.
I NEVER WENT BICYCLING AT TWO IN THE AFTERNOON IN THE SUMMER.
SO BUT WHEN I MOVED UP HERE, I COULD RIDE ANY TIME OF THE DAY.
SO WHAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE FOR PHOENIX DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR HERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE DAY DOESN'T BECOME EVEN REASONABLE IN PHOENIX UNTIL ABOUT 930.
AND I WAS DOWN THERE YESTERDAY AND IT'S LIKE, THIS PLACE IS UNBELIEVABLE.
IT'S HOT. ANYWAY, I REALLY LIKED THE IDEA FROM THE WOMAN THAT USED TO WORK FOR THE PARK SERVICE.
HI, LAURA. OF NOT HAVING ANY LIGHTS AT BUSHMASTER.
I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
AND I THINK WE COULD EITHER MAKE THAT RULING.
FOR THE SAME. THORPE BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE LEAVING THE RULE AS IS AT THORPE, BECAUSE THERE ARE HOUSES CLOSE, BUT THEY'RE NOT QUITE AS CLOSE AND THEY DON'T HAVE PICKLEBALL COURTS, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT.
AND SOME OF THE OTHER SPORTS CAN BE NOISY, BUT THEY'RE NOT NEARLY AS NOISY AS PICKLEBALL.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS NO LIGHTING AT ALL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE OR NOT.
THEN I REALIZE THERE MAY BE SOME ROOM FOR COMPROMISE THERE.
I WOULD JUST BE A LITTLE CONCERNED IF WE DID.
AND SO, IF PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT NOISE, THINK ABOUT AND SOME OLDER PEOPLE, I'M INCLUDED.
I WAKE UP EARLY THESE DAYS AND I DON'T SLEEP AS LATE.
SO SOMEBODY COULD BE UP AT 5:00 AND BE OUT ON THE COURT BY 6:00 AND SOMEBODY IS STILL SLEEPING.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO NO LIGHTS, I THINK WE SHOULD DO SOME KIND OF START TIME OR OPEN PARK TIME.
PUT A TIME ON THERE SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T THERE AT 530 IN THE MORNING.
AND THAT'S FOR ALL 24 OF OUR PARKS, NOT JUST THESE TWO WITH SPORT COURT LIGHTING.
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SO YOU INDICATED THAT YOU WOULDN'T SUGGEST HAVING DIFFERENT.AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WHY THAT WOULD BE.
HOWEVER, THE HOMES ARE CLOSER TO BUSHMASTER THAN THEY ARE AT OTHER PARKS.
RIGHT. I MEAN, JUST ABUTTING THE PARK.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE HOUSES LIKE ON ASPEN AND BIRCH AND.
PICKLEBALL IS DIFFERENT THAN THESE OTHER SPORTS.
UM. YEAH, LET'S BRING IT TOGETHER.
SO WE HAVE TWO WHO HAVE EXPRESSED STRONG SUPPORT FOR NO LIGHTS.
FIVE WHO HAVE EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR AN EARLIER LIGHT, YOU KNOW, LIGHT GOING OUT AND THEN. OH, YES.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOURS ARE COMMUNICATED TO POTENTIAL USERS.
SO YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR WE'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION TONIGHT.
GIVING YOU OUR THOUGHTS BECAUSE THIS IS A WORK SESSION.
WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD BE BRINGING BACK TO US IN TERMS OF LIGHTS, NO LIGHTS, OR DO YOU THINK THAT WE HAVE EXHAUSTED THE CONVERSATION? YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING LIGHTS AT BUSHMASTER PARK, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE THE LATE 90S ON THE TENNIS AND BASKETBALL COURTS, WHICH JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE USED FOR PICKLEBALL COURTS, TOO.
SO IF WE WERE TO REMOVE THE ABILITY FOR THOSE LIGHTS TO BE USED, KNOWING THAT WE SEE PICKLEBALL PLAY AT OUR OTHER CONCRETE SURFACES, YOU KNOW, I SEE IT AT CHESHIRE PARK ON THE TENNIS COURT, BASKETBALL COURTS.
WE HAVE SEEN IT AT THORPE PARK.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
SO WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT IF WE HAVE LIGHTS, WE'D LIKE THEM GOING OUT AT NINE.
CAN WE GO WITH THAT? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT.
WE'VE GOT ALL OF US ON BOARD FOR THAT.
AND HOW. AND THEN WOULD THE LIGHTS AT THE PARK STAY ON UNTIL 9:00 AS WELL? IT WOULD BE SPORTS, SPORT, COURTS AND THE PARK.
IT'S JUST THE SPORT COURT LIGHTING.
SO PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING DOES NOT CHANGE.
BUT THEN OUR OTHER OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY THIS EVENING WOULD BE THEN THOSE IN GENERAL PARK HOURS WHEN WE THINK A PARK SHOULD BE PERMITTED TO BE OPEN. AND HOW LATE INTO THE EVENING.
SO. EXCUSE ME. YOU'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM US ON THAT AS WELL.
WE JUST WANT TO MITIGATE WHEN THE LIGHTS ON SPECIFIC SPORT COURTS CAN BE ILLUMINATED.
SO COUNCIL, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT 9 P.M.
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FOR SPORT COURTS AND 10 P.M.FOR PARKS? I THINK THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH MY VIEW, WHICH IS WE SHOULDN'T MESS WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR OUR PARKS.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT.
ALL RIGHT. MOVING DOWN TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, I SEE NO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS TWO FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER, FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS.
[11. Informational Items To/From Mayor, Council, and City Manager; future agenda item requests]
I'M GOING TO START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.I REALLY APPRECIATED IT AND IT'S BRIGHTENED UP MY LIVING ROOM.
COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? I HAVE NOTHING. VICE MAYOR? NOTHING TONIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE? NOTHING THIS EVENING. BUT THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT I WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT IN.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.
I DO WANT TO THANK ANYA FOR MY FLOWERS THAT ARE UP HERE.
THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL. AND FOR NEXT WEEK'S MEETING, I WILL BE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY.
NOTHING TONIGHT, MAYOR. THANK YOU.
AND VICE MAYOR AND MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET WILL BE ATTENDING THE MEETING NEXT WEEK.
VIRTUALLY. WE WILL ALL BE AT THE INTERNATIONAL DOWNTOWN.
NOTHING FROM ME. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THANK YOU. WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.