Oct 17, 2023 City Council Meeting

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GOOD EVENING. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE MISSING A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THE MOMENT, SO I AM GOING TO GET THE PARTY STARTED.

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT AT THIS REGULAR MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IF NECESSARY.

CAN I GET A ROLL CALL? THANK YOU. OKAY, LOOKS LIKE WE ARE AT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND I WILL DO THE HONORS. SO PLEASE STAND IF YOU ARE ABLE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE, CAN YOU PLEASE DO THE MISSION STATEMENT? YES. THANK YOU.

THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL, AND COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

CAN YOU DO OUR LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT? IT WOULD BE MY PLEASURE.

THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THIS AREA'S INDIGENOUS NATIONS AND ORIGINAL STEWARDS.

THESE LANDS STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS BORDER.

MOUNTAINS SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.

WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.

WE CELEBRATE, CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE IS HOME.

THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW DOWN TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

[4. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION Public Participation enables the public to address the Council about an item that is not on the agenda. Comments relating to items that are on the agenda will be taken at the time that the item is discussed. If you wish to address the Council at tonight's meeting, please complete a comment card and submit it to the recording clerk as soon as possible. Your name will be called when it is your turn to speak. You may address the Council up to three times throughout the meeting, including comments made during Public Participation. Please limit your remarks to three minutes per item to allow everyone an opportunity to speak. At the discretion of the Chair, ten or more persons present at the meeting and wishing to speak may appoint a representative who may have no more than fifteen minutes to speak. ]

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, FILL OUT A CARD AND PLEASE HAND IT TO THE CITY CLERK AND IT LOOKS LIKE I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKER REQUESTS.

THE FIRST ONE IS REGINA SOLIS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE, VICE MAYOR ASLIN ON THE ONLINE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

COUNCIL MEMBERS MCCARTHY AND COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

ONLINE. I APPEAR BEFORE YOU TODAY AS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF FLAGSTAFF SISTER CITIES, WHICH WAS FOUNDED IN 2020 AS A 501(C)(3) NONPROFIT WITH A MISSION TO BUILD INTERNATIONAL FRIENDSHIP AND GOODWILL ONE PERSON, ONE CITY AT A TIME.

THIS WAS A LONG STANDING PROGRAM OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF THAT DATES BACK TO THE 1970S.

WE ACCOMPLISH THIS THIS MISSION THROUGH YOUTH, CULTURAL, EDUCATIONAL, AND ECONOMIC EXCHANGES AND NETWORKING.

WITH MUCH GRATITUDE TO MAYOR BECKY DAGGETT, WHO SIGNED A SISTER CITY AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE SISTER CITY OF FLAGSTAFF WITH [INAUDIBLE], THE ALCALDE OR THE MAYOR OF THE MUNICIPALITY OF NAVOJOA, SONORA, MEXICO, LAST SEPTEMBER 28TH IN SCOTTSDALE. THIS WAS A RESULT OF COLLABORATIVE WORK WITH FLAGSTAFF SISTER CITIES WITH [INAUDIBLE] GENERAL OF MEXICO AND PHOENIX JORGE MENDOZA ILLESCAS. THIS AUSPICIOUS CEREMONY FORMALIZED NINE SISTER CITIES AGREEMENTS BETWEEN MUNICIPALITIES IN ARIZONA AND SONORA, FORGING COMMITMENT TO COLLABORATE THROUGH THE DIVERSE CULTURAL, SOCIAL, AND ECONOMIC SIMILARITIES THAT BIND US.

NOW, I REITERATE MY INVITATION TO COUNCIL FOUR WEEKS AGO THAT ON NOVEMBER 10TH AND 11, FLAGSTAFF SISTER CITIES IS HOSTING THE ANNUAL ARIZONA SISTER CONFERENCE WITH WITH SEVERAL ARIZONA SISTER CITIES RELATIONSHIP GATHERING IN FLAGSTAFF PROMOTING PEACE THROUGH MUTUAL RESPECT, UNDERSTANDING AND COOPERATION.

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DIGNITARIES AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE.

WE AGAIN EXTEND THIS INVITATION TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.

WITH THIS INVITATION COMES THE REVERBERATION OF OUR REQUESTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO UNDERWRITE THE EVENT, TO FUND, TO SHOULDER COVER, TO COVER OVERHEAD COSTS.

WITH MUCH GRATITUDE AND FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT IN BREATHING LIFE TO THE PROGRAM OF FLAGSTAFF SISTER CITIES, WHICH WAS AN ORIGINAL PROGRAM OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I END WITH A QUOTE FROM MOLLY BLANC.

EVERYTHING WE STRIVE TO DO IN LIFE IS A GIFT.

IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SHARE IT, TO GIVE BACK TO THE WORLD.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ONTO OUR NEXT SPEAKER REQUEST AND I CANNOT READ THE LAST NAME, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S JONATHAN.

IF YOU TURNED IN A CARD, YOU ARE UP, AND CAN YOU STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME? MY NAME IS JONATHAN DIONISIO.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

SO HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING TODAY? I JUST WANTED TO COME MAKE A COMMENT, BECAUSE WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY, I'M ALSO WRITING A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ABOUT THIS AND I'M STILL LEARNING ALL OF THE RULES AS FAR AS WHAT THE CITY CAN DO ABOUT THESE, BUT I STILL WANTED TO COME MAKE THE COMMENT ANYWAY, BUT I THINK WITH THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, I THINK THERE'S A LACK OF PLANNING AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHEN THEY ACTUALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S JUST USE THE SHELTERS AS AN EXAMPLE.

THEIR GOAL IS TO SOLVE THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS, RIGHT? BUT THE PROBLEM IS THEY DON'T PLAN AHEAD ON OKAY.

IF THE ISSUE IS WHEN THE ISSUE IS SOLVED, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE SHELTER? ARE WE GOING TO TURN IT INTO A SCHOOL OR ARE WE GOING TO TURN IT INTO I DON'T KNOW.

ARE THEY GOING TO TACKLE ANOTHER ISSUE? YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE THAT RUN NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, THEY'RE PROBLEM SOLVERS AND THEY WANT TO SOLVE PROBLEMS, AND THE THING IS, WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THAT FUTURE PLANNING OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO EVOLVE INTO, WHAT YOU HAVE IS THE PEOPLE SOMETIMES THEY DON'T PUSH.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE INCENTIVE TO PUSH TOWARDS THEIR GOAL OF SOLVING THAT PROBLEM.

EVEN IF YOU MIGHT SAY, OH, THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S NEVER GOING TO BE SOLVED, BUT STILL SET THE GOAL RIGHT, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE INCENTIVIZING INNOVATION AND YOU'RE INCENTIVIZING CREATIVE CHANGES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, RIGHT, AND WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE IT, WHAT YOU SEE IS THAT THEY SOME PEOPLE AND EVEN JUST OUTSIDE THE SHELTERS, THEY GET STUCK IN THE WAYS AND STUCK IN JUST KIND OF MEETING THE DEMAND OF THE PROBLEM AND NOT REALLY TRYING TO DO MORE AND MORE AND MORE, YOU KNOW.

SO I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF SAY THAT BECAUSE WHAT YOU HAVE IS KIND OF LIKE A REPETITIVE CYCLE OF OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, SAME THING THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY.

I THINK IT'S LIKE DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT.

THAT'S LITERALLY THE DEFINITION.

I LEARNED THAT RECENTLY, AND I'M NOT CALLING ANYBODY INSANE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE'S SOME INSANITY IN THE PROCESS.

SO I WANTED TO JUST SAY ABOUT THAT, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING IF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE TO TACKLE SPECIFIC GOALS LIKE THAT, ANYTHING OF THAT KIND OF NATURE, THEY SHOULD HAVE TO WRITE, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THIS? WITH THE MONEY AND THE EMPLOYEES AND EVERYBODY? AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TURN IT INTO SO THAT THEY CAN PUSH TOWARDS THEIR GOAL? BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE, THEY CAN FEED THEIR FAMILIES WITH THAT MONEY AS WELL.

THEY CAN PAY THEMSELVES A SALARY.

SO THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE AN ONLINE.

PARTICIPANT. YES.

MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I HAVE SABRINA.

SABRINA, YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SABRINA, YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE SABRINA CANNOT REACH US.

IF YOU ARE ONLINE AND CAN HEAR ME.

PLEASE EMAIL COUNCIL YOUR COMMENT OR YOU CAN TRY AGAIN AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

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[5. COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS]

THANK YOU. I HAVE NOTHING AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AND DO WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS ONLINE? NO, WE DO NOT.

OKAY, AND IS VICE MAYOR ONLINE? VICE MAYOR IS ONLINE.

VICE-MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE A COUNCIL LIAISON REPORT? DOESN'T APPEAR SO. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

WELL. THANK YOU.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT, BUT THANK YOU FOR ASKING.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I DID MY BPAC MEETING AND IT WAS ANOTHER GREAT MEETING.

ALL THINGS ART IN OUR CITY.

THE ONE THING THAT I FOUND FASCINATING, WHICH I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE.

THE REGIONAL PLAN HAS A COVER, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN ARTIST TO DO THE COVER FOR THE 2045 REGIONAL PLAN.

SO WE ARE CALLING OUT THAT FOR ARTISTS TO APPLY.

MORE INFORMATION ON THAT COMING YOUR WAY.

I HAVE THE WATER COMMISSION ON THURSDAY, 4:00 IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND FRIDAY I WILL BE TRAVELING TO PRESCOTT FOR THE NORTHERN ARIZONA MUNICIPAL WATER USERS ASSOCIATION MEETING, AND COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

THANK YOU.

I'LL JUST SHARE THAT. AS THE COUNCIL LIAISON TO THE FLAGSTAFF SISTER CITIES BOARD, I WANTED TO REITERATE THE THANKS TO THE MAYOR FOR THE RECENT SIGNING OF THE RECOMMITMENT TO OUR SISTER CITY, NAVAJOA.

I ALSO SEE THAT THE MAYOR HAS SIGNED UP FOR THE UPCOMING SISTER CITIES CONFERENCE COMING UP IN NOVEMBER HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HER AND OTHERS THERE, AND JUST TO REITERATE THE REQUEST TO COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST FOR OUR SUPPORT OF THAT EVENT WITH FUNDING AND ATTENDANCE AND CONTINUED SISTERHOOD WITH OUR SISTER CITIES.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, OUR APPOINTMENTS.

[6. APPOINTMENTS Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for the purpose of discussing or considering employment, assignment, appointment, promotion, demotion, dismissal, salaries, disciplining or resignation of a public officer, appointee, or employee of any public body...., pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(1).]

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR APPOINTMENTS TO.

THE LIBRARY BOARD FOR NUMBER ONE, AND I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE, YOU ARE UP.

YES. THANK YOU.

SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO THE VARIOUS PEOPLE THAT APPLIED FOR THE APPOINTMENT TO THE LIBRARY BOARD, AND I AM GOING TO MOVE TO REAPPOINT LISA GAINEY TO A TERM EXPIRING NOVEMBER 2026.

SHE HAS BEEN SERVING A PARTIAL TERM AND EXPRESSED HER DESIRE TO CONTINUE THAT SERVICE INTO A FULL TERM, AND I 100% SUPPORT HER IN THAT.

SO THAT IS MY MOTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I WILL SECOND THAT. JIM MCCARTHY.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THIS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED. THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION AND COUNCIL MEM--ACTUALLY, LET ME STEP BACK.

WE HAVE A SECOND APPOINTMENT TO THE LIBRARY BOARD, AND THAT WOULD BE MAYOR DAGGETT THAT HAS THAT APPOINTMENT, CORRECT? COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET, AND WITH HER NOT BEING PRESENT AT THE TIME, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND JUST MOVE THAT APPOINTMENT TO THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT.

NOW WE ARE ON TO AN APPOINTMENT FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION AND COUNCIL MEM BER HOUSE.

YOU'RE UP. THANK YOU.

THIS WAS A PARTICULARLY CHALLENGING ONE, AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BECAUSE THERE WERE A NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT APPLIED AND SPOKE TO VARIOUS LEVELS OF OF BACKGROUND WITH PARKS AND RECREATION INTEREST IN THIS COMMISSION AND JUST A DESIRE TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE CITY.

SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT APPOINTED, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THANKS FOR THEIR APPLICATIONS AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONTINUE SEEKING THOSE APPOINTMENTS WITH THIS OR OTHER COMMISSIONS.

THERE IS ALWAYS SPACE OPEN SOMEWHERE, EVEN IF NOT HERE.

SO WITH THAT, I MOVE TO APPOINT SANDY HEATH TO A TERM EXPIRING AUGUST 2024.

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THIS IS COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

ANY OPPOSED. THAT MOTION CARRIES.

I'M GOING TO CALL FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES.

WE ARE ON TO ITEM SIX C.

IT'S A CONSIDERATION TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION AND IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, YOU ARE UP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO THERE WAS A LOT OF WONDERFUL APPLICANTS.

IT'S REALLY REFRESHING TO SEE SO MANY RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS BEING INTERESTED IN HOUSING, SINCE THAT'S ONE OF OUR DECLARED CRISES. SO WHAT I DID IN REALLY NARROWING DOWN THE APPLICANTS WAS I HAVE A SPREADSHEET.

HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE IN REAL ESTATE LENDING AND SPECIALIST IN EITHER NONPROFIT LOW INCOME HOUSING OR JUST HOUSING ASSISTANCE, AND THEN OUR GENERAL COMMUNITY, AND FELT LIKE THAT CATEGORY WAS THE ONE THAT NEEDED MORE REPRESENTATION TO BALANCE THE VOICES OUT THERE.

SO IN DOING THAT, I ACTUALLY THEN DRILLED DOWN TO SEE BACKGROUND THEIR STATEMENTS ON WE HAD A FEW THAT HAD MULTIPLE PROPERTIES, SO THEY HAD THAT EXPERIENCE, BUT REALLY FELT LIKE A GOOD DIVERSIFICATION AND PERSPECTIVE BROUGHT ME TO THE CANDIDATE THAT I'M GOING TO NOMINATE AND THAT'S KEVIN DOBY.

HE HAS EXPERIENCE BOTH IN EMT EXPERIENCE.

SO HE'S OUT THERE.

HE'S WORKED WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN SHELTERED IN HIS PAST, BUT HE'S ALSO A HOMEOWNER BUT DOESN'T HAVE MULTIPLE REAL ESTATE INVESTMENTS.

SO I FELT LIKE HE WOULD BRING THAT PERSPECTIVE TO JUST OUR REGULAR RESIDENTS WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO FIND HOUSING AND BATTLING THE HOMEOWNERSHIP CHALLENGES.

SO I NOMINATE KEVIN DOBY TO THAT POSITION TO EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 26TH.

THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, MCCARTHY.

THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

WE ARE DOWN TO THE LIQUOR LICENSE PUBLIC HEARINGS NUMBER SEVEN, AND OUR VICE MAYOR ARRIVED, AND I'M GOING TO

[7. LIQUOR LICENSE PUBLIC HEARINGS Applications under Liquor License Public Hearings may be considered under one public hearing and may be acted upon by one motion unless otherwise requested by Council. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Hold the public hearing. The City Council has the option to: Forward the application to the State with a recommendation for approval; Forward the application to the State with a recommendation for denial based on the testimony received at the public hearing and/or other factors.]

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL MEMBER AND FORMER VICE MAYOR MIRANDA SWEET DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.

I, TOO, AM NOT PREPARED TO BE IN THIS ROLE THIS AFTERNOON, BUT WE'LL MARCH FORWARD AS WE CAN.

AGENDA ITEM SEVEN LIQUOR LICENSE, PUBLIC HEARINGS.

STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION IS THAT WE HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW, AND DO WE HAVE ANY PRESENTATION OR INFORMATION FROM OUR OFFICERS? UM, I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION.

I KNOW THAT MR. SOLOMON HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT, VICE MAYOR, IF I MAY.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT IT COULD BE FOR BOTH ITEMS SEVEN A AND B TOGETHER, AND THE MOTION TO FORWARD TO THE STATE.

THE APPLICATION WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL CAN BE MADE FOR BOTH A AND B AT THE SAME TIME, AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

SO I'M LIEUTENANT SAPP WITH THE FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE TWO NEW APPLICATIONS.

THEY'RE BOTH FOR OREGANO'S PIZZA BISTRO.

ONE IS FOR THE WEST SIDE AND ONE IS FOR THE EAST SIDE.

THE WEST SIDE IS LOCATED AT 1061 SOUTH PLAZA, SUITE C.

THE EAST SIDE IS 980 SOUTH COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE.

ON MY INVESTIGATION OF THOSE APPLICANTS, I DID NOT FIND ANY DEROGATORY RECORDS.

THERE WERE NO HISTORICAL OR CURRENT OF LIQUOR VIOLATIONS ON THEM.

IN MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE'S SOMEBODY PRESENT FOR THE BUSINESS THAT MAY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

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I'M AVAILABLE FOR.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, COME ON AND LET US KNOW.

ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE ARE JUST APPLYING FOR THE NEW LICENSES.

WE HAVE A PRIVATE TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP FROM ONE ENTITY TO THE OTHER, HENCE THE NEED FOR NEW LICENSE.

SO NO CHANGE. WE'VE BEEN IN FLAGSTAFF FOR TWO DECADES AND HAPPY TO BE HERE AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU.

THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TODAY I THINK IT WAS COUNCIL MEMRER ODEGAARD WHO IS FOND OF SAYING, THANKING APPLICANTS FOR SHOWING UP.

WE OFTEN DON'T REQUIRE ANY CONVERSATION, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, BUT HE WAS FOND OF RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO COME OUT, BE HERE JUST IN CASE, AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

VICE MAYOR, I WILL.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

IF WE COULD ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN IF THERE WAS NONE, AND THEN GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY OF OUR LIQUOR LICENSES? WE DO NOT, VICE MAYOR.

THEN I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND I THINK I CAN ACCEPT A MOTION FOR BOTH A AND B TOGETHER.

THAT IS CORRECT. VICE MAYOR.

I WILL MOVE TO FORWARD BOTH APPLICATIONS TO THE STATE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

ALL SECOND. WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, AND NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[8. CONSENT AGENDA All matters under Consent Agenda are considered by the City Council to be routine. Unless a member of City Council expresses a desire at the meeting to remove an item from the Consent Agenda for discussion, the Consent Agenda will be enacted by one motion approving the recommendations listed on the agenda. Unless otherwise indicated, expenditures approved by Council are budgeted items. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION Approve the Consent Agenda as posted.]

JUST LET ME KNOW.

VICE MAYOR IT LOOKS AS IF COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS MAY HAVE A QUESTION.

THANK YOU, CITY CLERK.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS. GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO PULL OUT FOR FURTHER CONVERSATION.

I'M JUST PULLING IT UP NOW BECAUSE I HAVE THE OLD VERSION IS C AND F. WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO PULL C, F AND G, AND I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR CONSENT ON THE REMAINING ITEMS. VICE MAYOR. I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS POSTED WITH THE REMOVAL OF I THINK IT WAS B, F AND G.

C, F AND G. C, F AND G.

THANK YOU. SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW MORE SECONDS HERE ON OUT.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY TO WEIGH IN.

THERE IS A DELAY.

OKAY, SO THOSE PASS.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION, VICE MAYOR.

GO AHEAD.

ITEM E AS IN "ECHO," WAS THAT ONE HAS BEEN PULLED ALREADY, RIGHT? CORRECT. OR DID THEY OR DID THEY GET RENUMBERED? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY THAT 8E WAS ACTUALLY REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA, AND THEN SO DO WE HAVE ALL THE WAY UP TO G AS IN GOLF STILL THERE? YEAH THAT IS CORRECT.

YEAH. SO IT'S JUST WE JUST SKIPPED OVER THAT.

WE DIDN'T RENUMBER THEM OKAY.

YIELD. THANK YOU. OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER INDIVIDUALLY CONSENT ITEM NUMBER C.

[C. Consideration and Approval of Contract: Cooperative Purchase Contract with Courtesy Chevrolet for the purchase of five (5) fully electric 2024 Chevrolet 1500 Silverado Crew Cab pickup trucks in the amount of $428,098.17. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve the Cooperative Purchase Contract with Courtesy Chevrolet for the purchase of five (5) fully electric 2024 Chevrolet 1500 Silverado Crew Cab pickup trucks in the amount of $428,098.17; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the necessary documents ]

IT'S A COOPERATIVE PURCHASE CONTRACT WITH COURTESY CHEVROLET FOR THE PURCHASE OF FIVE FULLY ELECTRIC 2024 CHEVROLET 1500 SILVERADO CREW CAB PICKUP TRUCKS IN THE AMOUNT OF $428,098.17.

LORI. GO AHEAD.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS. GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

SO I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS I WANTED TO ASK I DID SOME RESEARCH, AND THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES I KNOW IS IN OUR PLANS AS WE AGE OUT OUR FLEET ON THE CITY THAT WE REPLACE WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES, AND JUST THE OTHER DAY, WE HAD

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SO I LOOKED AT THE CHEVY 1500 SILVERADOS AND TWO THINGS JUMPED OUT AT ME, AND SO ONE OF THEM IS JUST TO COMMENT, THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES BASED ON THE CONTRACT WILL COST THE CITY $85,619, AND A GAS VEHICLE LOOKS LIKE ABOUT $47,995.

SO WE'RE PAYING AN EXTRA $38,000 NEARLY FOR THE EV.

BUT MY BIGGER CONCERN WAS THE I THINK THAT'S ON THE F-150 WAS THE AVAILABILITY I KNOW WE'RE JUST ORDERING THEM, BUT CAN WE PUT IN THE APPROVAL THAT IF THERE'S A CERTAIN LAG TIME THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN GO AHEAD AND APPROVE GAS VEHICLES, IF IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE LONGER THAN NINE MONTHS OR A YEAR TO WAIT.

CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, FOR THE QUESTION.

I WILL ALSO INVITE.

WE HAVE FOLKS HERE WHO REPRESENT OUR FLEET TEAM AND THEY CAN FILL IN.

WE DO HAVE A FLEET POLICY WHICH SETS FORTH PROCEDURES TO FOLLOW THAT IN THE CASE OF UNAVAILABILITY OR PRICE THAT WE SIMPLY CANNOT AFFORD FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT OR OTHER SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS, WE ARE ABLE TO KIND OF MOVE THROUGH THE PECKING ORDER OF THE VEHICLE IN TERMS OF EV TO HYBRID TO REGULAR GAS ENGINE VEHICLES, BUT, EVAN, CAN I INVITE YOU TO COME ON UP AND EITHER CORRECT WHAT I JUST SAID OR FILL IN SOME BLANKS? THANKS. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVAN TYRELL, SOLID WASTE AND FLEET SERVICES SECTION DIRECTOR.

SO A COUPLE ITEMS HERE.

THERE HAVE BEEN, OF COURSE, VERY SIGNIFICANT SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES WITH EVS.

WE HAD A LOT OF FORD LIGHTNINGS ON ORDER IN THE PAST SIX PLUS MONTHS, EVEN FOR 12 MONTHS IN THE PAST, THOSE CONTRACTS HAD TO BE CANCELED DUE TO THOSE ELECTRIC VEHICLES NOT BEING BROUGHT INTO PRODUCTION, BUT ALSO SECONDLY, BECAUSE THE COST HAD INCREASED DRAMATICALLY UPWARDS OF.

I THINK ONE OF THEM WAS $105,000 TOTAL FOR THAT PARTICULAR VEHICLE.

I WAS JUST DOING SOME RESEARCH JUST BEFORE COMING UP HERE.

JUST RIGHT NOW.

KELLEY BLUE BOOK INDICATES THAT THE SAVINGS OF AN EV VERSUS A I.C.E.

INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE VEHICLE IS ABOUT $5,000 IN FUEL SAVINGS PER YEAR.

THAT'S BASED ON A 15,000 MILES DRIVEN IN AN ANNUAL BASIS.

SO OVER A TEN YEAR PROJECTED LIFETIME OF THE VEHICLE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SAVINGS OF ABOUT $5,000, AND THEN BECOMING $50,000 FOR THAT TEN YEAR TIME FRAME.

I GUESS THE OTHER ITEM TO CONSIDER IS THE MAINTENANCE.

WE DON'T KNOW. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LONG TERM INFORMATION AVAILABLE FOR THESE VEHICLES QUITE YET, BUT IT IS SHOWING THAT THE MAINTENANCE COSTS ARE TYPICALLY LESS, IF NOT HALF, OF THE NORMAL COST OF THESE VEHICLES.

THAT DEPENDS ON IF THE BATTERIES FAIL.

THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWN FACTORS, OF COURSE, FLAGSTAFF BEING HIGH ALTITUDE AND HAVING THE COLD WINTER SEASONS THAT CAN ALSO LIMIT THE RANGE.

THESE PARTICULAR SILVERADOS HAVE A MILEAGE GUARANTEE OF 350 TO 400 MILES PER CHARGE, SO THE DISTANCE IN THESE IS BECOMING MUCH LARGER THAN SOME OF THE OTHER VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN AT MARKET THUS FAR, BUT I THINK CITY MANAGER CLIFTON'S COMMENTS ARE CORRECT, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS TO MAKE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE OTHER QUESTIONS AND HAVE NATE MALBORSKIE, HE'S OUR FLEET MANAGER HERE, AND I THINK SUSTAINABILITY IS HERE AS WELL TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING WITH EVS AS WELL.

WELL, HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, VICE MAYOR.

DO YOU MIND? GO FOR IT.

SO I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO RESEARCH THE COMPARISON ON THE SILVERADOS DID ON THE FORD F-150, AND I'LL COME TO THAT WHEN THAT ITEM COMES UP, BUT HAVE YOU RESEARCHED THE PAYLOAD CAPACITY, AND ARE WE GOING TO USE THESE TRUCKS IN A SCENARIO WHERE THAT PAYLOAD CAPACITY FOR AN EV VERSUS A COMBUSTION, A GAS ENGINE IS GOING TO COME INTO PLAY? BECAUSE I FOUND ON THE FORD F-150, THE PAYLOAD IS QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DEFER THAT QUESTION TO THE FLEET MANAGER, NATE MALBORSKIE, IF THAT'S OKAY.

SIR. THANK YOU.

NATE, DO YOU HAVE SOME GOOD INTEL ON THAT? HOPEFULLY. SO.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR. COUNCIL.

SO THE ROLE THAT THESE ARE GOING TO SERVE ARE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE TOWING CAPACITY.

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I DON'T HAVE THE SPEC DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME ON THIS.

THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR TO A HALF TON TRUCK THAT WILL REDUCE THE RANGE ON THESE UNITS.

SO BEING THE LESSER OF THE TWO MODELS AT 350 ESTIMATED MILES ON A FULL CHARGE.

IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT YOU'RE REALISTICALLY GOING TO SEE.

THESE ARE THESE ARE NEW TRUCKS.

THERE'S NO HARD NUMBERS TO GIVE YOU ON THAT.

IF YOU INCLUDED WINTER TEMPERATURES AFFECTING THAT PAYLOAD OF 1500 HUNDRED POUNDS IN HERE, YOU'D REALISTICALLY EXPECT TO SEE OVER 200 MILES ON A FULL CHARGE, WHICH IS FANTASTIC FOR AN EV TRUCK.

THE USE BY THESE DEPARTMENTS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY'VE BEEN WAITING FOR IN THESE UNITS.

THESE ARE GOING TO BE WORK TRUCKS.

THEY'RE GOING TO SEE MOSTLY IN-TOWN USE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE HAULING TOOLS AND MATERIALS OF A MODERATE AMOUNT, NOT A HEAVY PAYLOAD, AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE A GREAT FIT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, BUT HOPEFULLY.

IT DID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE QUESTION FOR CONSENT ITEM C, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE F SEPARATELY.

THE VICE MAYOR MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT CO-OPERATIVE PURCHASE CONTRACT WITH COURTESY CHEVROLET FOR THE PURCHASE OF FIVE FULLY ELECTRIC 2024 CHEVROLET 1500 SILVERADO CREW CAB PICKUPS, IN THE AMOUNT OF $428,098.17, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS, AND I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JUST AS A MINOR MATTER OF DISCUSSION, I DO APPRECIATE US PULLING THESE OUT AND HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THESE ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE TO BE TRANSPARENT AND ENGAGE THE PUBLIC ABOUT OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS ON THESE ITEMS, WHICH ARE CONSTANTLY EVOLVING AND AS A PART OF A PRIORITY THAT'S SORT OF COMES WITH A PREMIUM.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED.

THAT MOTION CARRIES AND NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO F.

[F. Consideration and Ratification of Contract: Cooperative Purchase Contract with Don Sanderson Ford, Inc. in the amount of $80,137.68 for a Ford F-150 Lightning EV Truck. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve and Ratify the Cooperative Purchase Contract with Don Sanderson Ford, Inc. in the amount of $80,137.68 for a Ford F-150 Lightning EV Truck; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the necessary documents.]

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO USE THESE TRUCKS FOR MUCH HAULING OR TOWING.

HI. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL.

AMY HAGEN, ASSISTANT PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

THIS SPECIFIC VEHICLE FOR THE PARK SECTION WILL BE FOR OUR BRAND NEW POSITION.

THE PARK RANGER WHO WILL NOT BE TOWING WITH THIS VEHICLE.

THERE'LL BE A CHANCE TO POSSIBLY HAUL AROUND TRASH BAGS, BECAUSE THEY'LL BE WORKING DAILY WITH OUR TRASH TEAM AND MAYBE LIMBS IF THEY ENCOUNTER THOSE THROUGHOUT THEIR DAY, BUT THIS WAS IDEAL PROCUREMENT FOR THIS VEHICLE, FOR THIS POSITION WITHIN OUR SECTION, BECAUSE OUR TRASH TEAM HISTORICALLY DRIVES AROUND 78 MILES PER DAY IN A TRUCK.

SO THIS WILL BE AN IDEAL PROCUREMENT FOR THIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH WITH THAT VICE MAYOR.

IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

BE MY GUEST. THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE AND RATIFY THE COOPERATIVE PURCHASE CONTRACT WITH DON SANDERSON FORD INC, IN THE AMOUNT OF $80,137.68 FOR THE FORD F-150 LIGHTNING EV TRUCK, AND TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. ALL SECOND.

WE HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES AND WE'RE ON TO ITEM G CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF CONTRACT FOR A COOPERATIVE PURCHASE CONTRACT WITH PRIDE OUTFITTERS, LLC

[G. Consideration and Approval of Contract: Cooperative Purchase Contract with Pride Outfitters, LLC to upfit/outfit emergency equipment on four patrol vehicles in an amount not to exceed $88,000. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve the Cooperative Purchase Contract with Pride Outfitters, LLC for the upfit/outfit emergency equipment on four patrol vehicles in an amount not to exceed $88,000; and Authorize the City Manager to execute all the necessary documents.]

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I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT NOW FROM KELLY CULLEN.

HI, I'M KELLY CULLEN NILES RADIO RIGHT FROM RIGHT HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, 1602 NORTHEAST STREET.

REGARDING CONSENT ITEM G.

THE UP-FITTING OF CITY VEHICLES.

FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR LETTING US BID ON THIS PROJECT SINCE WE ONLY GET THIS CHANCE ABOUT ONCE EVERY TEN YEARS.

I WANTED TO COME HERE TODAY AND EXPRESS MY CONCERNS REGARDING THIS BID OPPORTUNITY.

THE INFORMATIONAL PACKAGE FOR THIS ITEM STATES THAT THE LOCAL CONTRACTOR, I THINK THEY'RE REFERRING TO ME IS NOT REFERRING TO ME NILES RADIO.

IT SAYS THAT WE'RE THE HIGH BID.

HOWEVER, IF YOU ACTUALLY REVIEW THE QUOTES, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE ARE NOT BIDDING ON THE SAME LINE ITEMS. PERHAPS SOME OF THE LINE ITEMS ORIGINALLY REQUESTED WERE CHANGED.

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE THAT WE'RE ALL NOT BIDDING ON THE SAME LINE ITEMS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THIS HAPPENS.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE DIRECT COMPARISON BETWEEN THE SELECTED QUOTE AND NILES QUOTE IS DEFINITELY NOT APPLES TO APPLES.

IT CAN'T BE COMPARABLE, DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS. SO ALSO THE INFORMATIONAL PACKAGE DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY COST CONSIDERATION FOR THE WASTED RESOURCES IN SHUFFLING VEHICLES 330 MILES BACK AND FORTH TO CHANDLER FOR INSTALLATION AND THE ONGOING SERVICE FOR THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLES.

THIS IS THIS HAS TO CONFLICT WITH THE CITY OF FLAG'S CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND DEFINITELY HAS AN ASSOCIATED COST THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE INFORMATIONAL WRITE UP.

I WANT TO SEE THAT.

SO ANOTHER ITEM IS THAT NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR IS THE LOCAL FLAGSTAFF WAGE AND SALES TAX.

YOU'RE PICKING A COMPANY OUT OF CHANDLER.

THEIR WAGE STARTS AT $12.

OUR WAGE STARTS AT NEARLY $17 HERE.

SHORTLY IT'LL BE 17 PLUS.

THESE REQUIRED CITY RATES SHOULD NOT BE HELD AGAINST A LOCAL COMPANY.

THAT'S JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE A SERVICE HERE IN FLAG.

THERE SHOULD BE A MEASURED FACTOR OF ALLOWANCE FOR LABOR.

I'M HERE TODAY TO REQUEST THIS ITEM TO BE TABLED UNTIL ONE.

THE REVISED EQUIPMENT LIST AND SPECIFICATIONS ARE AVAILABLE TO ALL BIDDERS.

TWO THE COST OF SHUFFLING VEHICLES BACK AND FORTH TO CHANDLER IS CALCULATED INTO THE PURCHASE, AND THREE THE HIGHER WAGES AND SALES TAX ARE CONSIDERED. PLEASE.

IF ANY OF YOUR STAFF HAS COMMENTS TO THIS, PLEASE GIVE ME A CHANCE TO RESPONSE FOR A RESPONSE.

THANK YOU. MR. CULLEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING FORWARD AND EXPRESSING THOSE CONCERNS.

I DO REMEMBER YOU COMING FORWARD RECENTLY WITH OTHER CONCERNS AS WELL IN THE NEAR PAST.

BEFORE WE GET INTO A CONVERSATION OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, I WAS WONDERING, PATRICK, IF YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE, ANY COMMENTS OR ANY HELPFUL INSIGHTS THAT WE CAN HAVE CONSIDERING WHAT WE JUST HEARD.

GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL.

PATRICK BROWN, YOUR PURCHASING DIRECTOR.

SO I REVIEWED THE COOPERATIVE THIS MORNING.

WHEN I UNDERSTOOD THAT NILES WAS COMING UP, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO REALLY COMPARE THE LINE ITEMS. WE DID NOT GET A DETAILED LINE ITEM FROM NILES, BUT WE DID FROM THE OTHER ONES.

REGARDLESS, THE FACTOR, THE TRAVEL FACTOR WAS NOT CONSIDERED IN EACH OF THE VEHICLES.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE TRAVEL TIME WOULD BE, BUT I BELIEVE THERE WOULD.

THE DIFFERENCE OR THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICING IS SOMEWHERE AROUND $13,000 IN PRICE QUOTES.

WE CAN GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK, TAKE OUT THE TPT, TRY TO FIGURE IN SOME MILEAGE, BUT AS FAR AS ALTERING THE QUOTES, WHAT'S IN THERE DOES REPRESENT WHAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING FOR.

SO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT REACHED OUT FOR UPLIFT SERVICE FOR THEIR VEHICLES, AND THEY RECEIVED QUOTES BACK, AND THEY DETERMINED THAT THIS VENDOR IS MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT IT WAS A LOWER PRICE SO THAT WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT ONE.

DO YOU DO YOU KNOW IF THAT PRICE, IF THE COMPETITIVE NATURE OF THAT WAS INTEGRALLY WRAPPED UP IN DIFFERENCES IN MINIMUM WAGE, I DO NOT KNOW, AND IF I WERE A GUESSING PERSON, I WOULD SAY IT WAS NOT IN CONSIDERATION.

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THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. ON THE SPOT THERE.

I KNOW HOW IT FEELS. IT'S OKAY.

SO I DO THINK A COUPLE OF INTERESTING THINGS WERE BROUGHT UP THERE.

ONE OF THEM BEING, HOW CAN WE HAVE COMPETITIVE LOCAL BIDS WITH OUR MINIMUM WAGE BEING SO MUCH HIGHER THAN NON LOCAL BIDDERS? I DON'T KNOW THAT'S A QUESTION WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING IT'S CERTAINLY A NEW PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY THINK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD AND MAYBE DISCUSS HERE PUBLICLY AT SOME POINT.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR I'M GUESSING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THERE'S BEEN A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WE TABLE THIS ITEM.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE COST OF ANY DELAYS COULD BE OR IF WE NEED TO CONSIDER THIS UNDER ANY TYPE OF URGENCY OR PRIORITY.

ANYBODY. COME ON DOWN.

KRISTEN DECKER, SPECIAL SERVICES SUPERVISOR AT THE FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT.

ONE OF MY PURVIEWS IS FLEET AND WORKING WITH GETTING VEHICLES AND THE UP-FIT OF THEM.

I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, TOO, THAT ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ARE HOPING TO GET APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PRIDE IS THE FACT THAT THEY ARE UNDER A STATE CONTRACT AND HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH A COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS.

CURRENTLY AS YOU MAY HAVE UNDERSTOOD FROM A PREVIOUS MEETING WHEN WE WERE GOING FOR THE GASOLINE MODELS VERSUS THE HYBRID MODELS, BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET THE HYBRID MODELS, WE EXPRESSED THAT OUR FLEET IS CURRENTLY AT 41 VEHICLES VERSUS 50.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE GAS VEHICLES TO HELP BRIDGE THAT GAP.

HOWEVER, NOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF NEEDING TO UP-FIT THEM WITH SIRENS, LIGHTS, ALL THE EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT IN ORDER TO PUT THEM ON THE ROAD.

WE ARE ALREADY IN A CRITICAL SITUATION AS FAR AS NOT HAVING ENOUGH PATROL VEHICLES ON THE ROAD.

WE ARE HOPING TO GET THIS DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT PRIDE CAN START WORK IN NOVEMBER, AND HOPEFULLY HAVE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE VEHICLES ON THE ROAD AND SUPPLEMENTING FOR THE VEHICLES THAT ARE OUT.

SO AM I CORRECT THAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY THAT A DELAY COULD BE PROBLEMATIC OR IS CERTAINLY NOT IDEAL.

NOT IDEAL. OKAY, WELL, SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? MAYOR, THIS IS STERLING, OR VICE MAYOR, SORRY, JUST RAISED MY HAND.

JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE LANGUAGE TERMINOLOGY BEING USED WAS A REQUESTED MOTION TO TABLE UNDER THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.

THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING.

IT WAS A MOTION TO DO SOMETHING FURTHER OUT THAN THAT.

IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO POSTPONE.

SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT IS CONSIDERED BY ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN A MOTION.

SPECIFIC NATURE OF A MOTION TO TABLE IS TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING UNDER THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.

THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT INSIGHT INTO THE DISCUSSION.

I SEE YOUR HAND UP, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

SO I JUST WANT SOME CLARIFICATION.

SO IT TAKES ABOUT TEN WEEKS TO EQUIP THE VEHICLES WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED.

BECAUSE YOU SAID IT WOULD BE DONE.

IF THEY START IN NOVEMBER, IT WOULD BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO I'M THINKING NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, SO PROBABLY ABOUT TEN WEEKS.

THAT'S BASED ON THEIR ABILITY TO FIT US INTO THEIR SCHEDULE, WHICH WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, THEY THEY FELT LIKE THEY COULD GET US IN NOVEMBER, WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT THE FOUR VEHICLES WERE REQUESTING WOULD BE COMPLETED BY END OF NOVEMBER.

OKAY, AND THEN JUST ANOTHER FOLLOW UP.

SO WHAT WOULD BE OUR OPTIONS IF WE PUT THIS ON HOLD? WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE? DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER VEHICLES OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD FILL IN FOR THE TIME BEING? WITHOUT HAVING AN UP-FITTER AND A CONTRACT IN PLACE TO INSTALL THE HARDWARE.

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OKAY, SO IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, WOULD YOU SAY THAT WE'RE IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AT THIS POINT IN TIME? WE'RE GETTING THERE. WE'RE GETTING THERE.

SO GETTING THERE MEANING? YEAH IF WE CAN'T GET THIS CONTRACT IN PLACE AND WE CAN'T GET THEM IN FOR SCHEDULING WITH THIS OUTFITTER, I DON'T ANTICIPATE US BEING ABLE TO UP-FIT THE CURRENT VEHICLES WE HAVE IN OUR FLEET BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE NINE VEHICLES, THESE FOUR PLUS THE OTHERS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR FLEET SITTING, NOT BEING USED BY PATROL, WHICH IS WHAT THEY WERE PURCHASED, AND SO HOW MANY OFFICERS DOES THAT AFFECT.

SO WE'RE DOUBLING UP NOW.

IS THAT CORRECT.

AT TIMES WE HAVE SIX SQUADS, EIGHT SQUADS, CORRECT? EIGHT SQUADS. WE HAVE A DAY SHIFT, AN OVERLAP SHIFT, A SWING SHIFT AND A GRAVE SHIFT.

WE RUN ABOUT 25 PLUS VEHICLES A DAY.

NO 40 A DAY? YES. WE RUN THE FULL 40 A DAY.

SO IF ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES GOES OUT, WE DO NOT HAVE A POOL VEHICLE TO POOL FOR THOSE PEOPLE, AND THEN THAT'S WHEN WE END UP DOUBLING UP ON OFFICERS.

SO WE HAVE NOTHING.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESERVES SITTING SOMEWHERE IN A GARAGE OR SOMETHING.

NO, NOTHING THAT'S MARKED AND HAS THE EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE OFFICERS TO DO THEIR JOB.

OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

SO, I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY, BUT I ALSO FEEL STRONGLY THAT THIS VOTE AND THIS DECISION IS BASED ON EQUALITY OF THE BIDDING PROCESS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE INSTALLERS ARE TYPICALLY MINIMUM WAGE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME INTO PLAY, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT AT LEAST DESERVES A POSTPONEMENT TO NEXT WEEK TO GET A CLEAR ANSWER.

ON IF THE BIDS WERE EQUAL IN THE LINE ITEMS THAT THEY CONSIDERED, AS WELL AS THE MINIMUM WAGE ISSUE.

IF IN FACT THE LABOR CHARGE WAS BASED ON MINIMUM WAGE INSTALLERS, OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES HAVE A HARD ENOUGH TIME STAYING AFLOAT UP HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE KEEPING THINGS AS BALANCED AS WE CAN FOR THEM.

SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT.

WE POSTPONE THIS VOTE FOR ONE WEEK SO WE CAN GET THOSE ANSWERS.

YOU MEAN TABLED? TABLED, YES.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS.

I JUST WANT TO GO OVER PROTOCOL A LITTLE BIT.

WE CAN FOR ME PERSONALLY, I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.

SO JUST FOR EXAMPLE, I MIGHT VOTE NO ON TABLING AND THEN VOTE YES TO MOVE FORWARD.

JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A STICKY SITUATION IN THE PAST.

I DO SEE CITY MANAGER'S HAND GOING UP, AND SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO TALK, BUT JUST REMEMBER, THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR HOW TO NAVIGATE A YES OR NO ON GETTING THROUGH THIS.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

I'M SORRY, CITY MANAGER TO INTERRUPT, BUT WHEN THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE, WE REALLY SHOULD SEE IF THERE'S A SECOND FIRST BEFORE WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

WAS THERE A CALL FOR A SECOND? I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

YOU'RE PERFECTLY WELL WITHIN YOUR RIGHTS TO DO SO.

THERE WAS NOT A CALL FOR A SECOND.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? IT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE WE DO.

SO THAT MOTION FAILS, AND NOW I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE ANY OBSERVATIONS.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. I'M SO SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION.

I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER ON THIS.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE BEFORE WE COME TO CLOSURE ON THIS.

THANK YOU. OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I DON'T HAVE THAT SYSTEM SET UP ON MY COMPUTER RIGHT NOW.

IS THIS AN ONLINE COMMENT? YES. VICE MAYOR. I SEE THAT.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT NOW.

MAYOR, COUNCIL, I HAVE SABRINA.

SABRINA, YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SABRINA, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES.

YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND EMAIL YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO MOVE ON.

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MR. CULLEN, I DO SEE YOUR HAND GOING UP.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE BEST PROTOCOL FOR HAVING YOU COME BACK UP.

I MIGHT DEFER TO THE MAYOR ON DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT.

I ASKED IF I COULD SPEAK, IF THERE WAS PEOPLE I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEGATIVE TO SAY.

IT'S POSITIVE. WELL, LET ME ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

IS THERE ANY ISSUE PROCEDURALLY WITH HAVING A PUBLIC COMMENT OR COME BACK UP FOR A SECOND COMMENT? YES, ACTUALLY, IF THERE'S A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT HAS A QUESTION FOR HIM BASED ON A COMMENT THAT HE MADE PREVIOUSLY, THAT'S WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE MAYOR TO ALLOW HIM TO COME BACK UP AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

TYPICALLY THAT HAPPENS, BUT WITHOUT A QUESTION.

IT IS NOT TYPICAL THAT SOMEBODY CAN RESERVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL, IF YOU WILL, AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.

IT'S UP TO THE CHAIR OF THE MEETING AS YOU'RE THE CHAIR.

THAT'S UP TO YOU, VICE MAYOR, BUT TYPICALLY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT A QUESTION FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER FIRST.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT ADDITIONAL CLARITY.

MR. CULLEN, WHY DON'T YOU COME BACK UP? I DO WANT TO ABSOLUTELY I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW YOU'RE FEELING ABOUT THIS AT THIS POINT.

THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE WHERE THEY NEED THESE FOUR CARDS RIGHT AWAY.

NOW, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE'S 13 CARDS ALTOGETHER, AND IF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE THESE CARDS KNOCKED OUT BY A QUICK DATE, THEN LET'S DO IT BUT LET'S GIVE ME A CHANCE ON THE OTHER REMAINING ONES, AND ONE OTHER COMMENT I HAVE TO SAY IS THEY SAID THEIR CONTRACT, THEIR CONTRACTOR HAS A STATE CONTRACT.

THEY HAVE A MARICOPA CONTRACT.

I HAVE A STATE CONTRACT STATEWIDE.

I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO SHARE IT WITH YOU, AND THE OTHER COMMENT ABOUT THE MINIMUM WAGE.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT? IT'S ELEMENTARY.

I MEAN, I SUPPORT PEOPLE NEED TO MAKE AN AFFORDABLE LIVING HERE.

NOW, WHEN IT GOES OUT OF TOWN, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET A CERTIFIED PAYROLL.

DOES EVERYONE IN THEIR BUILDING MAKE THE MINIMUM WAGE? THAT'S EASY IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES IT ALL THE TIME.

SO I'M WILLING TO OFFER MY STATE CONTRACT.

I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THE POLICE DEPARTMENT UP EVER, FOR IF THEY NEED FOUR VEHICLES OUT THERE RIGHT AWAY.

YEAH, LET'S DO IT.

I'M NOT GOING TO OPPOSE THAT, AND I THINK IT WAS ALREADY DONE.

IT'S GOING, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, I APPRECIATE IT.

IT'S NOT SOUR GRAPES HERE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY FOOT IN THE DOOR AND HAVE A LITTLE LOCAL BUSINESS.

THANK YOU. MR. CULLEN, YOU RAISED SOME IMPORTANT THINGS FOR US TO CONTINUE TO WRESTLE WITH AND GRAPPLE WITH.

I DO APPRECIATE IT.

AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE SHOULD CALL THE QUESTION.

ACTUALLY MAYOR OR VICE MAYOR? SORRY. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE HAS BEEN MADE.

I BELIEVE ONE'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE RIGHT NOW.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE COOPERATIVE PURCHASE CONTRACT WITH PRIDE OUTFITTERS, LLC FOR THE UP-FIT OUTFIT EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT ON FOUR PATROL VEHICLES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $88,000, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET SECONDS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT I ALSO UNDERSTAND APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THAT WERE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TONIGHT, AND I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION.

I THINK THE JOB BEFORE US THIS EVENING IS WEIGHING THE BALANCE OF THE CRITICAL SITUATION THAT OUR POLICE AND SAFETY PATROLS ARE FACING AGAINST THIS REQUEST FOR FURTHER INFORMATION, AND SO I WANT TO ENABLE US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC, WHILE ALSO LEAVING ROOM FOR THAT FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I THINK WE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND MOVE THAT FORWARD WITHOUT POSTPONING THIS.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED.

CONSENT ITEM G PASSES.

AT THIS POINT, I'M VERY HAPPY TO HAND THINGS BACK OVER TO YOU, MAYOR IF YOU'RE ABLE AND WILLING.

THANK YOU, AND BY ALL ACCOUNTS, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

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NOTHING IN MY DAY WENT AS AS I THOUGHT IT WOULD, AND I WAS WITHOUT TRANSPORTATION, SO LET'S MOVE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER NINE.

ROUTINE ITEMS.

[A. Consideration and Approval of Municipal Services Accounts, Miscellaneous Account Receivable, Transaction Privilege Tax, Insufficient Funds and Library Write-offs: Delinquency and Uncollectible Accounts for Fiscal Year 2022-23. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve the write-off of delinquent and uncollectible Municipal Services accounts, Miscellaneous Account Receivables, Transaction Privilege Tax accounts and Insufficient Funds in the combined amount of $76,462.86 and Library account balances in the amount of $1,158,567.03. ]

TRANSPORTATION PRIVILEGE TAX.

INSUFFICIENT FUNDS AND LIBRARY WRITE OFFS.

HELLO. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

RICK TADDER MANAGEMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR AND CITY TREASURER.

THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS PART OF OUR ANNUAL PROCESS TO WRITE OFF UNCOLLECTIBLE ACCOUNTS, AND NEW THIS YEAR IS WE ARE ASKING TO WRITE OFF SEVERAL LIBRARY ACCOUNTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEEMED UN-COLLECTABLE AT THIS TIME.

FOR MUNICIPAL BILLS, MUNICIPAL ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLES, OLD SALES TAX ACCOUNTS AND INSUFFICIENT FUND CHECKS, WE DO HAVE A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN OUR WRITE OFFS OVER PRIOR YEAR BY ABOUT $25,000 THAT WE'RE REQUESTING.

THE AMOUNT IS $76,462.86, AND THE REDUCTION IS MAINLY DUE TO LOWER AMOUNT OF OLD SALES TAX ACCOUNTS THAT WE'RE WRITING OFF THIS YEAR.

OUR MUNICIPAL BILLS ARE OUR LARGEST BILLING SERVICES THAT WE DO THROUGH THE REVENUE SECTION, WITH APPROXIMATELY $44 MILLION IN BILLINGS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THIS YEAR, WE SAW JUST A SLIGHT INCREASE OF THE WRITE OFFS, AND THE WRITE-OFFS AS A PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL BILL IS ONLY 0.15%, WHICH IS A VERY GOOD EXPERIENCE, ESPECIALLY AS THESE BILLS IN THESE ACCOUNTS WERE RELATED TO THE COVID PERIOD, WHERE WE WEREN'T DISCONNECTING ACCOUNTS.

WE WERE REALLY SETTING UP A LOT OF PAYMENT PLANS AND WORKING WITH OUR CUSTOMERS DURING THAT PERIOD.

HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE A LOW AMOUNT OF WRITE-OFFS, WHICH IS KUDOS TO OUR TEAM.

THE MISCELLANEOUS ACCOUNTS WRITE OFFS ARE REQUESTED AT 0.02%, AND THIS IS ONLY THREE ACCOUNTS THAT WE'RE ASKING TO WRITE OFF THIS YEAR, AND IT'S ABOUT $10 MILLION, AND WE BILL THROUGH MISCELLANEOUS ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE.

THE STAFF SUMMARY SPEAKS TO OUR WORK WITH OUR CUSTOMERS AS WELL AS OUR COLLECTION EFFORTS, SO THAT INFORMATION IS THERE FOR YOU.

THE LEVEL OF WORK WE DO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR AMAZING REVENUE TEAM FOR THEIR WORK TO KEEP THESE NUMBERS LOW AND COLLECT THE MOST WE CAN FOR REVENUES THAT ARE OWED US. OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM, UNDER THE DIRECTION OF JESSICA KITTLESON, DO A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH CUSTOMERS AND CREATING PAYMENT PLANS WHEN NECESSARY FOR THOSE CUSTOMERS TO ENSURE THEY CONTINUE SERVICE AND PAY THEIR BILLS, AS WELL AS OUR METER SERVICES TEAM THAT ARE OUT IN THE FIELD, AND THEY HELP US WITH DISCONNECTING ACCOUNTS THAT ARE NOT BEING PAID, AND THAT GENERALLY CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY TO COLLECT ON OUR PAST DUE AMOUNTS.

OUR BILLING AND COLLECTIONS TEAM OF KIM BURNS, OUR BILLING SPECIALIST, WHO IS ALSO OUR ACTING, BILLING AND COLLECTIONS MANAGER, SABRINA JAMES, OUR BILLING SPECIALIST, AND JENNY LYNN, OUR COLLECTIONS SPECIALIST.

THEY ALL WORK REALLY HARD ON ACTIVE AND CLOSED ACCOUNTS FOR THE CITY, SO THEY'RE ASSURING THAT WE ARE COLLECTING THE MOST REVENUES TO OUR CAPACITY FROM WHAT WE DELIVERED IN SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

SO DEFINITELY WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR EFFORTS AND WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO WORK AND LEARN UNDER OUR PREVIOUS BILLING AND COLLECTIONS SERVICES MANAGER, AND I'M GOING TO GET CHOKED UP A LITTLE BIT.

SHARON GONZALEZ, SHE REALLY TAUGHT US AND TRAINED US IN THE COLLECTION AREAS, AND WE REALLY VALUED HER, AND IT WAS UNFORTUNATE THAT OUR LONGTIME COWORKER AND FRIEND PASSED AWAY ABOUT A YEAR AGO TODAY, THIS SATURDAY.

SO WE SURELY MISS SHARON AND ALL SHE DID FOR THE CITY.

I JUST HAD TO GET THAT OUT THERE.

SHE WAS VERY VALUED.

OKAY, NEW THIS YEAR IS A REQUEST TO WRITE OFF SOME OF OUR LIBRARY ACCOUNTS THAT WE HAVE ON SERVICE AT OUR LIBRARY DIVISION.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING A WRITE OFF OF JUST OVER $1.1 MILLION IN LIBRARY ACCOUNT BALANCES THIS YEAR.

THIS IS A LARGE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

HOWEVER, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE BROUGHT LIBRARY ACCOUNTS TO YOUR ATTENTION TO CONTINUE TO CONSIDER.

STOPPED OUR COLLECTION EFFORTS ON THOSE AND WRITE THOSE ACCOUNTS OFF.

THESE ACCOUNTS ARE REALLY DEEMED UN-COLLECTABLE AT THIS POINT.

THERE'S A PERIOD FROM JUNE 1987, SO MANY YEARS AGO, ALL THE WAY TO AUGUST 2016, THAT REPRESENTS 15,000 ACCOUNTS THAT WE'VE BILLED FOR NON-RETURN BOOKS OR EQUIPMENT FINES OR FEES THAT WE HAD FOR

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THIS IS A NON FISCAL IMPACT TO THE CITY.

SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO REDUCE OUR LIBRARY FUNDS BY $1 MILLION BECAUSE THESE ARE OFF BALANCE SHEET TRANSACTIONS.

WE REALLY TRACK THEM THROUGH OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM, AND WE ONLY RECORD THE REVENUES AS WE COLLECT THOSE REVENUES.

BY ADJUSTING OFF OLDER ACCOUNTS, IT WILL MAKE THE ACCOUNTS THE NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS MORE MANAGEABLE FOR OUR LIBRARY TEAM, AS WELL AS OUR COLLECTION TEAM AS WE WORK WITH THEM ON FUTURE COLLECTIONS AT THE LIBRARY, AND WE WILL START BRINGING THESE TO YOU ANNUALLY.

INSTEAD OF WAITING SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF TIME TO BRING 29 YEARS WORTH OF ACCOUNTS TO WRITE OFF THANKS TO NICK RUHLMAN, LIBRARY SPECIALIST, FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES, AND WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THEM TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, AND WE CAME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATION OF WRITING OFF THESE UNCOLLECTIBLE ACCOUNTS, AND WE DO HAVE OUR LIBRARY TEAM HERE.

IF YOU DO HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE LIBRARY ACCOUNTS, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

I'M JUST CURIOUS.

SO I KNOW LIBRARY FINES ARE PROBABLY A PART OF THAT.

I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT EQUIPMENT OR PROPERTY.

IF WE LOANED EQUIPMENT LIKE A LAPTOP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEY DID NOT GET RETURNED.

OH, OKAY. THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S IN THESE WRITE-OFFS.

YEAH. OKAY, AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS 1 MILLION.

YES. OVER THE LAST.

OKAY. YES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE WRITE-OFF? THAT'S A LOT OF OVERDUE BOOKS.

I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE MUNICIPAL SERVICES ACCOUNTS, MISCELLANEOUS, ACCOUNT RECEIVABLE TRANSACTION PRIVILEGE TAX INSUFFICIENT FUNDS AND LIBRARY WRITE-OFFS.

DELINQUENCY AND UNCOLLECTIBLE ACCOUNTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-23.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. MOVING DOWN TO THE REGULAR AGENDA TEN, A CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT TO CONTRACT NUMBER 2019-03

[A. Consideration and Approval of Amendment to Contract No. 2019-03: Amend Contract 2019-03 between the City of Flagstaff and Housing Solutions of Northern Arizona for the City of Flagstaff Community and Employer Assisted Housing Programs to accommodate recommended changes to the program guidelines and provide an additional one-year term. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve the recommended Amendment 2 for the City of Flagstaff Employer Assisted Housing (EAH) and Community Homebuyer Assistance Program (CHAP).]

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.

I'M KRISTINE PAVLIK, HOUSING AND GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE [INAUDIBLE].

OH. HOW'D THAT HAPPEN? THERE. ARE WE GOOD NOW? OKAY. HOUSING AND GRANTS.

ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE HOUSING SECTION, AND I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT OUR AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP PROGRAMS AND SOME RECOMMENDED CHANGES THAT WE HAVE.

SO FIRST, I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK HISTORY OF OUR HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS AND THEN FOLLOW THAT UP WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND THEN I'M HOPING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND ULTIMATELY HOPE TO RECEIVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE CHANGES, AS WELL AS A CONTRACT RENEWAL WITH THE CURRENT PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR. SO CURRENTLY, THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF CONTRACTS WITH HOUSING SOLUTIONS OF NORTHERN ARIZONA.

THEY ADMINISTER OUR HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. THIS CONTRACT BEGAN IN NOVEMBER 2018, WITH A ONE YEAR TERM AND AN OPTION TO RENEW FOR FOUR ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR TERMS, AND THAT LAST RENEWAL WAS ISSUED LAST YEAR IN NOVEMBER 2022, AND IT WILL EXPIRE NEXT MONTH.

THE CITY PROCUREMENT TEAM HAS STATED THAT CITY COUNCIL MAY AMEND THE CONTRACT TO INCLUDE ONE MORE ONE YEAR TERM, AND ANY OF THE OTHER PROPOSED CHANGES WILL ALSO REQUIRE A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WILL NEED TO BE APPROVED BY YOU COUNCIL, AND WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THE REMAINDER OF THIS CONTRACT WITH HSNA, WHICH AT THIS TIME ONLY INCLUDES GENERAL FUNDS FOR HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, NOT BOND FUNDS.

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SO OUR HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS CURRENTLY HAVE TWO FACETS.

FIRST, I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR EMPLOYER ASSISTED HOUSING PROGRAM.

WE REFER TO IT AS EAH.

SO EAH WAS CREATED BACK IN 2015.

AT THE TIME, IT ONLY SERVED FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES.

IT WAS EXPANDED IN THE SPRING OF 2018 TO SERVE ALL ELIGIBLE CITY EMPLOYEES, AND THE ASSISTANCE AMOUNT AT THAT TIME INCREASED FROM 7000 TO 10,000.

TO DATE, THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN UTILIZED BY 30 CITY OF FLAGSTAFF EMPLOYEES, AND THE LOANS HAVE AVERAGED ABOUT $8,300 PER HOUSEHOLD.

THIS PAST YEAR, WE DID COMBINE THE FUNDS FROM THE FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT PROGRAM AND THE GENERAL CITY EMPLOYEE PROGRAM, AND TO HAVE THEM ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BASIS FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. THE REASON FOR THAT WAS THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A POLICE OFFICER UTILIZE THE FUNDS SINCE OCTOBER 2020, SO WE FELT IT MADE SENSE TO JUST CREATE ONE EMPLOYER ASSISTED HOUSING PROGRAM.

SO THE CURRENT COMBINED PROGRAM BALANCE IS $175,000 IN ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE REQUESTED THROUGH THE CITY BUDGET PROCESS EVERY YEAR.

WE DID NOT ASK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS LAST YEAR, BUT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR BEFORE THAT.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE CURRENT PROGRAM GUIDELINES FOR OUR PROGRAM REQUIRE THAT THE HOME BUYER MUST HAVE BEEN AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF FOR AT LEAST A YEAR.

THEY MUST BE A FIRST TIME HOME BUYER, AS DEFINED BY HUD IN THE FLAGSTAFF AREA, AND THE PROGRAM PROVIDES A 1 TO 1 MATCH UP TO $10,000 IN THE FORM OF AN INTEREST FREE DEFERRED PAYMENT LOAN, AND THEN THAT LOAN IS FORGIVEN 10% PER YEAR FOR EVERY YEAR OF EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY.

WE DO HAVE SOME RULES ABOUT THE HOME PURCHASE PRICE NOT BEING ABLE TO EXCEED 125% OF THE FHA 203(B) MORTGAGE INSURANCE LIMIT FOR THE COUNTY.

CURRENTLY, THAT IS A LITTLE OVER $646,000.

THE HOME UNDER OUR PROGRAM CAN BE LOCATED ANYWHERE IN THE FMPO THAT INCLUDES BELMONT, KACHINA, DONI, AND THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN OUR COMMUNITY HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WHERE THE HOME DOES HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE FLAGSTAFF CITY LIMITS.

SO ALL LOANS ARE REPAYABLE WHEN THE HOME IS SOLD, WHEN IT'S NO LONGER OCCUPIED BY THE OWNER OR IS REFINANCED FOR CASH OUT, OR IF THE INDIVIDUAL IS NO LONGER EMPLOYED WITH THE CITY.

SO THE HOUSING SECTION CONDUCTS AN OWNER OCCUPANCY VERIFICATION PROCESS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROGRAM.

SO THE COMMUNITY HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WE CALL THAT CHAP WAS CREATED WITH GENERAL FUNDS BACK IN 1998, AND IT WAS SPECIFICALLY TO SERVE FLAGSTAFF HOUSEHOLDS THAT MADE TOO MUCH TO QUALIFY FOR FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDED HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE, BUT STILL NEEDED THAT ASSISTANCE TO BECOME LOCAL HOMEOWNERS.

SO AT THE TIME, IT SERVED HOUSEHOLDS UP TO 115% AMI THAT WERE MORTGAGE READY, BUT THEY MADE MORE THAN 80% AMI, WHICH, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, IS THE LIMIT FOR ALL OF OUR FEDERAL FUNDED PROGRAMS. SO CHAP HAS ALWAYS BEEN A REVOLVING LOAN PROGRAM, AND IT WAS ALSO BRIEFLY CALLED MIHAP FOR MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

SO WAY BACK WHEN THE INITIAL PROGRAM PARAMETERS INCLUDED A LOAN UP TO 10K PLUS 3% OF THE PURCHASE PRICE FOR HOUSEHOLDS THAT WERE AT 85% OR BELOW, AND THEN IT WAS JUST THE $10,000 LOAN FOR HOUSEHOLDS BETWEEN 85% AND 115% AMI.

THAT WAS THEN EXPANDED TO INCLUDE HOUSEHOLDS UP TO 125% AMI, AND BY 2005, LOANS UP TO $33,700 WERE AVAILABLE.

IN 2006, WE INTRODUCED A SHARED EQUITY MODEL FOR LOAN REPAYMENT.

IT RECAPTURES THE ORIGINAL SUBSIDY AS WELL AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE APPRECIATION, AND WE STILL USE THAT EQUITY SHARE MODEL FOR REPAYMENTS FOR CHAP LOANS TODAY. THAT INITIAL PROGRAM ENDED WITH THE RECESSION IN 2008, AND THEN IN 2010, WE STARTED USING OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING FOR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE THAT OFFERED A LOAN UP TO $15,000 FOR HOUSEHOLDS AT 80% AMI OR BELOW, BUT ULTIMATELY, THAT MONEY WAS DE-OBLIGATED AND RETURNED BACK TO OUR CDBG FUNDING POT BECAUSE IT WASN'T BEING UTILIZED.

THE ASSISTANCE AMOUNT JUST DIDN'T MAKE HOMEOWNERSHIP ACCESSIBLE TO HOUSEHOLDS THAT WERE ELIGIBLE.

SO IN 2018, WE CREATED THE PROGRAM AS IT IS TODAY, AND OVER $520,000 HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO 34 FIRST TIME HOMEBUYERS.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, CURRENTLY THERE'S A LITTLE OVER $280,000 REMAINING OF GENERAL FUNDS FOR THE CHAP PROGRAM.

SO, LIKE EAH, ALL CHAP LOANS ARE REPAYABLE WHEN THE HOME IS SOLD, NO LONGER OWNER OCCUPIED, OR IS REFINANCED WITH CASH OUT.

AT THIS TIME THE GUIDELINES ARE THAT THESE FUNDS CAN SERVE HOUSEHOLDS UP TO 125% AMI.

SO FOR A THREE PERSON HOUSEHOLD RIGHT NOW, THAT IS A HOUSEHOLD THAT HAS AN ANNUAL INCOME OF $96,750, THEY CAN RECEIVE ASSISTANCE UP TO

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SO THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT MAKE UP THE MATCH THAT CAN BE FROM GIFTS OR SMALL PRIVATE LOANS, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND AGAIN, THE HOME PURCHASE PRICE IS LIMITED.

SO WE ALL KNOW THAT OUR HOUSING MARKET IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING, AND THIS IS JUST A HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU THAT IN 2002, THE MEDIAN HOME SALES PRICE WAS 600 OR 2012.

OKAY. SORRY. IN 2022, THE MEDIAN HOME SALES PRICE WAS $615,000, COMPARED TO JUST $236,000 IN 2012.

SO THAT IS A 166% INCREASE.

WE'RE ALSO SEEING A BIG DIFFERENCE IN INTEREST RATES, SO THEY'VE FLUCTUATED A BIT SINCE THEY FIRST STARTED RISING IN 2022, BUT THEY REMAIN HIGH AT 7.19% FOR A 30 YEAR FIXED RATE FHA LOAN, COMPARED TO 2.97% JUST TWO YEARS AGO.

SUMMER 2002 WAS THE LAST TIME MORTGAGE RATES WERE ABOVE 7%, AND SUMMER 2008 WAS THE LAST TIME THEY WERE ABOVE 6%.

SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE ON OUR MARKET NOW.

SO THIS WAS THIS DATA WAS COLLECTED ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO RIGHT BEFORE WE PRESENTED TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION, AND AT THE TIME, THERE WERE 16 FHA ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES WITH A SALES PRICE UNDER $450,000 AVAILABLE.

NINE OF THOSE WERE CONDOS.

OFTENTIMES, CONDOS ARE NOT ACTUALLY ELIGIBLE FOR FHA FINANCING, AND THEY ALSO INCLUDE A LOT OF HOA FEES, WHICH CAN QUICKLY MAKE THE MONTHLY PAYMENT UNAFFORDABLE FOR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOMEBUYERS.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CHART BELOW, IT SHOWS THAT THERE ARE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF ASSISTANCE THAT CHAP CAN PROVIDE IS REALLY MAKING THE PURCHASING POWER OF MORTGAGE READY HOUSEHOLDS FALL FAR BELOW THE MARKET PRICING, SO ALL OF OUR HOUSEHOLDS SERVED IN 2022 UTILIZE AN ADDITIONAL SUBSIDY PROGRAM, AND THAT WOULD BE LIKE OUR COMMUNITY LAND TRUST OR DEED RESTRICTED UNITS.

SO EVERY SINGLE HOUSEHOLD THAT WAS ABLE TO ACCESS CHAP ONLY WAS ABLE TO BUY BECAUSE THEY WERE BELOW 80% AMI AND HAD AN ADDITIONAL SUBSIDY IN THE FORM OF A LAND TRUST UNIT OR A DEED RESTRICTED UNIT.

SO IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO THE MARKET CHANGES AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING AND WHO IS BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS PROGRAM, WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDED CHANGES.

FIRST, I WANT TO GO OVER OUR CHANGES.

SO IT INCLUDES CHANGING THINGS FROM SO WE'LL WE'LL MAINTAIN THE 1 TO 1 MATCH UP TO $10,000 IN A FORGIVABLE LOAN.

SO THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE FORGIVEN 10% PER YEAR FOR EVERY YEAR OF EMPLOYMENT, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL $10,000.

THAT WOULD BE A NON FORGIVEN LOAN THAT WOULD BE REPAYABLE AT THAT TRIGGER POINT.

SOMEONE DOESN'T WORK FOR THE CITY ANYMORE.

THEY NO LONGER OWN OR OCCUPY OR THEY'RE SELLING THE HOME.

SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL REALLY MAKE IT MORE POSSIBLE FOR SOME OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES TO ACTUALLY HAVE HOME OWNERSHIP BE ATTAINABLE.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE CITIES OF SEDONA AND COTTONWOOD HAVE BOTH MADE SIMILAR CHANGES TO THEIR EMPLOYER ASSISTED HOUSING PROGRAMS. THEY OFFER ASSISTANCE UP TO $40,000 AS A 4 TO 1 MATCH FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.

WE ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO REMOVE THE LIMITS ON HOME PURCHASE PRICE, NOT BECAUSE WE THINK FOLKS SHOULD BE ABLE TO PURCHASE A HOME OUT OF REACH OR OUT OF THEIR AFFORDABILITY, BUT THIS IS REALLY KIND OF AN ARBITRARY STATEMENT.

HOME PURCHASE PRICE IS ALREADY CONTROLLED THROUGH AFFORDABILITY AND DEBT TO INCOME RATIO PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS.

WE DON'T ALLOW FOLKS TO UTILIZE THE PROGRAM IF THEY'RE GOING TO BUY A HOME THAT IS NOT AFFORDABLE TO THEM, THAT WOULD HAVE THEM HOUSING COST BURDENED.

ALL RIGHT. SOME OF THE CHANGES TO OUR CHAT PROGRAM INCLUDE.

RIGHT NOW IT'S A 3 TO 1 MATCH, UP TO $15,000.

WE'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO AN 8 TO 1 MATCH UP TO $40,000, AND THAT IS A 166% INCREASE, WHICH COINCIDES OR CORRESPONDS TO THE 166% INCREASE IN THE MEDIAN HOME SALES PRICE.

RIGHT NOW, INSTEAD OF HAVING THE CLIENT CONTRIBUTE 1% OF THE PURCHASE PRICE, WE'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO 1% OR $1,000.

SO THIS MEANS THAT ANYONE THAT WANTS TO UTILIZE THE PROGRAM AND PURCHASE A HOME WOULD NEED TO SHOW THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO SAVE THAT $1,000 ON THEIR OWN, AND THAT IT WAS NOT A GIFT FROM FAMILY OR A WORKPLACE EMPLOYER ASSISTED HOUSING PROGRAM.

THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WOULD MAKE THE MATCH CAN BE FROM A GIFT FROM A FAMILY MEMBER OR WHAT HAVE YOU AND THEN AGAIN, WE JUST WANT TO MOVE THAT, REMOVE THAT LINE ABOUT HOME PRICE NOT EXCEEDING THE MORTGAGE INSURANCE LIMIT, BECAUSE THIS ALREADY IS CONTROLLED

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SO SIMILAR TO THE CITIES OF SEDONA AND COTTONWOOD RECENTLY MADE CHANGES TO THEIR WORKFORCE HOME OWNERSHIP ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

THEY ACTUALLY NOW SERVE HOUSEHOLDS UP TO 150% AMI, AND THEY HAVE A 4 TO 1 MATCH UP TO $40,000.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'VE MADE SIMILAR CHANGES, BUT OURS, WE FEEL, ARE MORE SPECIFIC TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THAT THEIRS ARE PROBABLY MORE SPECIFIC TO THEIR COMMUNITY.

SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA HOW A HOUSEHOLD OF THREE AT 125% AMI HAS AN ANNUAL INCOME OF $96,750 AND WITH 15 K, THEIR MAX HOME PURCHASE PRICE IS ABOUT 394,000, AND WITH 40,000, IT BOOSTS THEM UP TO 419,000, WHICH, AS YOU ALL SAW FROM THE HOMES THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET, IT REALLY MEANS THAT A GOOD 40 MORE UNITS ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM TO PURCHASE.

SO THAT KIND OF SUMMARIZES THOSE CHANGES.

WE DID PRESENT THESE TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION AT THEIR SEPTEMBER MEETING, AND THE COMMISSION DID VOTE TO FORWARD THESE CHANGES TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

WE'RE REALLY HOPEFUL THAT THEY'LL ENSURE THAT THE CHAT PROGRAM IS SERVING THE INTENDED POPULATION AND HELPING TO PROVIDE WORKFORCE HOUSING TO NOT JUST LOW INCOME, BUT ALSO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, AS WELL AS MAKING HOME OWNERSHIP ACCESSIBLE TO OUR CITY EMPLOYEES, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, RECRUITMENT CONTINUES TO BE A CHALLENGE.

SO WE HOPE THAT THIS WILL WILL HELP AID THAT.

I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, AND ACTUALLY, WE HAVE DEVONNA MCLAUGHLIN FROM HOUSING SOLUTIONS OF NORTHERN ARIZONA HERE, AND SHE'D BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL, AND THEN I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL. WE DO HAVE A COMMENT CARD FROM DEVONNA, AND I KNOW THAT WE WOULD ALL LOVE TO HEAR FROM HER.

CAN I HAVE HER COME UP AND SPEAK BEFORE WE ASK ANY QUESTIONS? BECAUSE SHE MAY ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY HAVE.

SO COME ON DOWN.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.

I'M HAVING LOGISTIC ISSUES.

I'M SO SORRY I AM DEVONNA MCLAUGHLIN.

I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING AS THE CEO OF HOUSING SOLUTIONS OF NORTHERN ARIZONA, AND WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY SINCE 1999, WELL BEFORE I STARTED.

I KNOW I'VE BEEN THERE FOREVER, BUT TO HELP FIRST TIME HOMEBUYERS IN OUR GREAT COMMUNITY OPEN THE DOOR TO HOMEOWNERSHIP, AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT THIS PROGRAM HAS LITERALLY CHANGED LIVES, AND IT IS AMAZING BECAUSE IN FLAGSTAFF, IT'S LIKE TWO DEGREES OF SEPARATION, MAYBE ONE.

WE SEE PEOPLE IN PROFESSIONS, IN WORK, AT KIDS HOCKEY GAMES, AT SOCCER, WHO HAVE BENEFITED FROM THIS PROGRAM YEARS AGO, MAYBE LAST YEAR.

REALLY, IT'S QUITE AMAZING TO SEE THAT WHEN YOU OPEN THE DOOR TO HOMEOWNERSHIP, IT PROVIDES STABILITY FOR A HOUSEHOLD.

IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO GENERATE WEALTH FOR THE HOUSEHOLD.

THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE WE HEAR FROM AFTER THEY BUY YEARS AFTER THEY BUY SAYING IF IT WASN'T FOR THIS PROGRAM, THEY WOULD NOT BE IN FLAGSTAFF TODAY, AND THOSE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE WORKING FOR YOUR CITY GOVERNMENT.

THOSE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE RESPONDING TO 9-1-1 CALLS.

THOSE ARE FOLKS AT THE HEALTH CARE, NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTH CARE.

THEY WORK AT GORE.

SO MANY EMPLOYERS IN TOWN BENEFIT WHEN THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE ABLE TO STAY HERE, AND SO I AM JUST HONORED AND BLESSED AND THANK YOU FOR THE INVESTMENT YOU'VE MADE IN THOSE HOMEOWNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IT PAYS DIVIDENDS BACK IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I DO WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR THOUGHTFUL PRESENTATION AND FOR BRINGING YOU FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I THINK ARE BALANCED AND MEASURED AND EFFECTIVE.

WE DO HAVE $280,000 LEFT.

WE WANT TO SPEND IT. WE WORK WITH CLIENTS EVERY DAY.

WE'VE GOT 7 OR 8 RIGHT NOW THAT ARE OUT SEARCHING FOR HOMES TO PURCHASE, THAT ARE MORTGAGE READY, THAT HAVE GOOD CREDIT, THAT HAVE THEIR OWN DOWN PAYMENT, AND THEY HAVE TO FIND THE HOUSE, AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 15,000 AND 40,000 MAKES A DIFFERENCE, AND IT'S INVESTMENT.

IT'S NOT A GIVEAWAY, IT'S NOT A HANDOUT.

IT WILL BE REPAID WHEN THAT BUYER SELLS THE HOME NO LONGER OWNER OCCUPIES OR REFINANCES FOR CASH OUT.

YOU GUYS GET REPAID BASED ON AN EQUITY SHARE MODEL THAT ENSURES THAT YOU BENEFIT, OR YOU SHARE IN THE APPRECIATION TO HELP FAMILIES IN THE FUTURE REINVEST IN HIGHER BECAUSE THE PRICES KEEP GOING UP.

IT'S JUST CRAZY, AND SO THIS HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS PROGRAM WITH A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS, AND WE'RE HONORED TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO ADMINISTER THIS PROGRAM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU TO HELP SIX MORE FAMILIES BUY HOMES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, DEVONNA.

I'M WATCHING THE TIMER COUNT DOWN, SO I WAS TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT.

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COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DEVONNA? OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU, AND I HAVE A COMMENT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU, KRISTINE AND DEVONNA AND TO THE HOUSING TEAM FOR THIS WORK.

I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE, I WAS ABLE TO SIT IN ON THE HOUSING COMMISSION MEETING WHERE THIS WAS PRESENTED AND LISTENED TO THE DISCUSSION THERE, AND SO GET A BIT OF A PREVIEW OF THIS CONVERSATION IN THAT CONTEXT, AND THE THING THAT I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE IS TO KIND OF JUST BUILD OFF OF WHAT DEVONNA SHARED, HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS AS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY BUT MORE THAN THAT, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR NOT ONLY MAKING THAT INVESTMENT, BUT ALSO IN MAKING THAT INVESTMENT RISE TO THE NEED OF OUR COMMUNITY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE IS THE FACT THAT SO MANY THINGS, IN TERMS OF OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS, AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT I SEE FOR US TO REALLY RISE TO THAT NEED AND FIND SOME OF THOSE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR.

SO I AM EAGER TO HEAR THE REST OF THE CONVERSATION FROM COUNCIL ON THIS, AND THEN I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS WHEN THE TIME COMES.

THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER.

DO WE HAVE OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAYOR, I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED AMENDMENT TWO FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF EMPLOYER ASSISTED HOUSING AND COMMUNITY HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY. MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER TEN, BE CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-24 AN

[B. Consideration and Adoption of Ordinance No. 2023-24: An ordinance amending hours of use for City Parks and the hours for lighting of sport courts within City Parks. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: At the October 17, 2023 Council Meeting: 1) Read Ordinance No. 2023-24 by title only for the first time 2) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2023-24 by title only (if approved above) At the November 7, 2023 Council Meeting: 3) Read Ordinance No. 2023-24 by title only for the final time 4) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2023-24 by title only (if approved above) 5) Adopt Ordinance No. 2023-24]

GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

AMY HAGEN, ASSISTANT PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS STEMS FROM OUR CONVERSATION ON SEPTEMBER 26TH AND THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION, WHAT CITY COUNCIL ELECTED WAS FOR ON THE SPORT COURT LIGHTING, AND THAT IS AT BUSHMASTER AND THORPE PARKS.

THAT WOULD END AT 9:00 PM, AND THEN ALL PARKS WOULD CLOSE AT 10:00 PM, AND THAT'S EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

NOW THE OPENING HOURS WERE LISTED AS SUNRISE, WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY 530 IN THE MORNING.

SO THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN FOR SUNRISE TO 9 P.M.

FOR THE LIGHTED SPORT COURTS AND SUNRISE TO 10 P.M.

FOR IN GENERAL PARK HOURS.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? I'M GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

OKAY, WE HAVE NOTHING ONLINE, BUT I SEE AUDREA SMITH . THE LAST TIME WE GOT TOGETHER, I LEFT VERY CONFUSED, MUCH AS I DID ON MAY 16TH.

IT LEFT AN IMPRESSION THAT AT LEAST TWO OF YOU HAVE BEEN THINKING ALL THESE MONTHS THAT YOU VOTED ON COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEW'S FIRST MOTION ON THE MAY 16TH MEETING TO BUILD NEW COURTS WITHOUT LIGHTING, THAT WAS THE COMPROMISE GRANTED TO THE NEIGHBORS.

THAT WAS THE MARBLE.

WE GOT TO TAKE AWAY.

HOWEVER, IF YOU RECALL THAT CONFUSING CONVERSATION, HER MOTION WAS AMENDED, AND HERE WE ARE.

I MUST SAY THAT HEARING VICE MAYOR'S CONFUSION AND APPEAL FOR DARK SKY STRATEGY TO LEAVE PARK PLAY LIMITED TO DAYLIGHT HOURS EXCITED ME AND GAVE ME SOME HOPE. HOWEVER, THE RESIDENTS' ISSUES HAVE NEVER BEEN ABOUT TENNIS AND BASKETBALL PLAY TILL 10 P.M..

THE ISSUE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT THE INVASIVE SOUND OF PICKLEBALL AND HOW TO CURB IT.

TURNING COURT LIGHTS OFF AT 9 P.M.

INSTEAD OF TEN IS NO SOLUTION NOR A COMPROMISE.

IN FACT, THIS DECISION NOW IMPACTS ANOTHER INNOCENT GROUP THE BASKETBALL AND TENNIS PLAYERS, ESPECIALLY THOSE KIDS FROM [INAUDIBLE] HOMES, AND BY THE WAY, THOSE STADIUM LIGHTS ON THE EXISTING COURTS CANNOT POSSIBLY BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT.

I CALL THEM STADIUM LIGHTS.

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DON'T YOU ALL LIKE TO BE OUTSIDE HAVING DINNERS, ENJOYING YOUR BACKYARDS? I TOOK ON A SECOND MORTGAGE TO BUILD A PATIO AND IMPROVE MY OUTDOOR ENJOYMENT.

LIKE I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THE PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT OF MY PROPERTY THIS SUMMER.

ALL EXCEPT ONE EVENING ON LABOR DAY, AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE WHEN 16 COURTS ARE IN USE.

REMEMBER THAT THE PICKLEBALL ASSOCIATION SEES BUSHMASTER AS THEIR HOME.

THIS IS TO BE THEIR HUB INCURRING CONSTANT PLAY PLUS TOURNAMENTS.

MY VOTE IS FOR ZERO LIGHTING ON THE DEDICATED PICKLEBALL COURTS.

YOU SEE, WITHOUT ANY FORESIGHT AS TO HOW WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO SOLVE THE HOURS OF PLAY RULES, NOW, WE ARE HAPHAZARDLY TRYING TO PIECEMEAL BIG PROBLEMS WITH SMALL SOLUTIONS IN A POOR LOCATION.

I'VE HEARD MOST OF YOU EXPRESS THAT YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERATE OF THE NEIGHBORS, BUT WE ARE HARDLY FEELING CONSIDERED.

MY NEIGHBORS NO LONGER COME TO THESE MEETINGS NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE SATISFIED.

IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE RESIGNED THAT THIS PROCESS HAS GONE TERRIBLY WRONG SINCE THE START.

BESIDES, ARE YOU AWARE THAT AS OF THE LAST CONCEPT DESIGN THAT AMY SENT TO CONNIE FOLSOM AND ME, 18 TO 20 TREES WILL BE REMOVED, WHILE CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE RALLYING TO PLANT MORE TREES IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND PARKS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY, EXCEPT THAT I KEEP COMING TO THESE MEETINGS BECAUSE I WANT TO TRUST THAT YOU CAN DO BETTER.

I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE STATED A MOTTO OF THE CITY TO PROTECT WELL-BEING OF CITIZENS.

YOUR VOTING RECORD ON THIS MATTER IS NOT MATCHING THIS MOTTO FOR US.

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE ASK ME TO FINISH MY LAST THOUGHTS? DOES SOMEONE HAVE A QUESTION FOR ADRIA? MAYOR. THIS IS JIM MCCARTHY.

UM THANK YOU.

JIM, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU HAD TO SAY IN IN A QUICK SUMMARY.

I'LL BE VERY QUICK.

UM YOUR VOTING RECORD ON THIS MATTER IS NOT MATCHING THIS MOTTO FOR US.

THE COMMITTED, DEDICATED, YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, PLEASE.

PLEASE, I BEG YOU, HELP US.

HELP US! HELP US! WE NEED YOUR HELP.

MY THOUGHT ON MORNING HOURS.

I HAVE TO MAKE A POINT AND IT WILL BE QUICK.

A FEW YEARS AGO, I WAS ABRUPTLY AWAKENED AT 6 A.M.

TO THE RHYTHMIC, PULSING NOISE OF A REFEREE WHISTLE.

I GOT DRESSED AND WENT OUT TO THE BASKETBALL COURT, WHERE A HIGH SCHOOL GROUP FROM PHENIX WAS DOING DRILLS.

I ASKED THE COACH IF HE COULD NOT USE HIS WHISTLE, AND HE ARGUED THAT HE HAD EVERY RIGHT BECAUSE BUSHMASTER IS A PUBLIC PARK.

I CALLED POLICE.

OFFICER LET ME KNOW THAT, HE TOLD THE COACH THE PARK RULE WAS NO NOISY PLAY UNTIL 8 A.M., SO THAT'S A CONFUSION, A POINT OF CONFUSION THAT COMES UP WITH THE SUNRISE HOURS OF PLAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU. ADRIA.

COUNSEL. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR AMY? I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

AMY. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE CURRENT LIGHTING AND THEN THE PROPOSED LIGHTING AT BUSHMASTER PARK? SO THE CURRENT LIGHTING, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IS FROM THE LATE 90S, I WANT TO SAY 1997.

IT IS SPORT COURT LIGHTING.

CAN I STATE IF IT'S DARK SKIES COMPLIANT? IT DOES HAVE SHIELDS ON IT AND DOES POINT DIRECTLY DOWNWARD.

IT'S NOT POINTING OUTWARD, SO I BELIEVE IT DOES MEET CURRENT DARK SKIES.

COMPLIANCY. THE NEW PROPOSED LIGHTING ON THE EIGHT PROPOSED COURTS WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE TOWARD THAT DARK, DARK SKIES. COMPLIANCY.

THERE IS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER LIGHTING SYSTEM THAN FROM NEARLY 30 YEARS AGO, AND THE PREVIOUS LIGHTING IS NOT SCHEDULED TO BE CHANGED AT THIS POINT.

CORRECT, CORRECT.

ON THE TENNIS AND BASKETBALL COURTS, IT WOULD REMAIN AS IS AND.

SO IF WE CHANGE THESE HOURS IT YOU'LL HAVE TO REPLACE SIGNS.

AND DO YOU SEE IT BECOMING AN ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM WITH HAVING DIFFERENT HOURS AT DIFFERENT PARKS? I DO NOT SEE AN ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO PARK LOCATIONS OUR REGIONAL PARK, THORPE PARK WITH LIGHTED TENNIS COURTS, AND THEN BUSHMASTER PARK,

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CURRENTLY TODAY, THAT IS THE ONLY DIFFERENTIAL IN THIS.

OTHERWISE, ALL 24 PARKS WILL CLOSE AT 10 P.M..

IT'S JUST THE LIGHTING ASPECT, AMENITY AND THOSE TWO PARK LOCATIONS.

THAT'S 9 P.M.

IN THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU, AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY HAS A COMMENT.

UH. THANK YOU.

THERE. UM.

I. THE WORD DISRESPECTFUL IS LIKE.

IN THE FOREFRONT HERE.

PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA WILL BE UNABLE TO USE THEIR BACKYARDS.

BECAUSE THIS WITH THE PICKLEBALL NOISE.

THEY REALLY CAN'T GO OUT THERE AND GO OUT IN THEIR BACKYARD, SIT AROUND A TABLE, SIP ICED TEA OR WHATEVER.

SO TO ME, IT'S VERY DISRESPECTFUL.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ON THE NEW PICKLEBALL COURTS OR ON ALL THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, NOT ALLOW ANY LIGHTING AT NIGHT, BUT WOULD ALLOW UP UNTIL 10:00, AS PROPOSED FOR, UM, I GUESS IT'S UP TO 9:00.

I'M SORRY FOR BASKETBALL AND OTHER SPORTS.

THE REAL PROBLEM IS PICKLEBALL BECAUSE IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY LOUDER THAN THE EXISTING USES IN THE PARK, SO I GUESS THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, AND UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO MOVE TO POSTPONE THE THIS ISSUE TO A TIME CERTAIN, THE QUESTION ON THE TABLE IS REGARDING LIGHTING CLOSING OFF AT 9:00 OR TEN COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

THANK YOU. I JUST HAD A CLARIFYING QUESTION ON THE COMMENT ABOUT THE TREES.

WHAT IS THERE A PLAN TO REPLACE TREES THAT WE'RE TAKING DOWN FOR THE PROPOSED PICKLEBALL COURTS AT BUSHMASTER PARK? YES, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE DESIGN OF THE COURTS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE A ONE FOR ONE FOR EVERY TREE TAKEN OUT, A NEW TREE MUST BE PLANTED ON SITE.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. AMY, UM, WE'VE TALKED JUST IN DISCUSSIONS, AND I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE, UM, IT WAS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, UM, TO DO SOME SOUND ABATEMENT, PLANTING DIFFERENT TREES OR PUTTING UP A WALL.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO MOVING FORWARD, OR WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

I BELIEVE THAT'S A FUTURE DISCUSSION ITEM.

IF NOT MISTAKEN, THAT WAS A PART OF A PREVIOUS FARE ITEM A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND THAT WILL BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSION WITH THE DESIGN OF THESE COURTS, WHICH DOES GO THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS HERE AT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

SO I THINK IN COMBINATION WITH THAT FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, AGENDA MEETING ITEM FOR US HERE AT CITY COUNCIL, WHICH I DON'T THINK WILL OCCUR UNTIL MAYBE AT BEST MID DECEMBER, AND THEN I'LL ALSO HAVE SOME DETAILS FROM THE DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS ON JUST THE DESIGN OF THESE COURTS.

SO BE ABLE TO COMBINE THE TWO INTO ONE CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

IS THERE A MOTION? UH, MAYOR, I WILL MOVE TO READ ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 2324 BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FIRST TIME.

TO HAVE A SECOND. SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT.

THIS IS JIM MCCARTHY, BUT JUST A MINUTE.

THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A SECOND ON THE MOTION.

SO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS MOTION BEFORE WE COULD ENTERTAIN AN AMENDMENT.

ACTUALLY MAYOR. OH..

ACTUALLY, MAYOR, THIS IS STERLING.

HI STERLING. WANTED TO JUMP IN.

THANK YOU TECHNICALLY, THE AMENDMENT NEEDS TO BE MADE BEFORE THE VOTE IS TAKEN ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION, AND THEN THE AMENDMENT NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE ORIGINAL MOTION WILL BE VOTED ON WITH THE AMENDMENT OR WITHOUT THE AMENDMENT.

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COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

NO. ALL GOOD, ALL GOOD, AND STERLING.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF I MAKE A MOTION AND THEN IT PASSES, THEN THAT WILL BE PART OF THE PRIMARY MOTION.

OR IF IT FAILS, THEN THE.

THEN WE WILL HAVE A VOTE ON THE PRIMARY MOTION WITHOUT THE AMENDMENT.

SO THAT IS CORRECT.

THANK YOU. ACTUALLY THINK I'D LIKE TO MAKE TWO AMENDMENTS, ONE AT A TIME, SO WE CAN VOTE ON THEM SEPARATELY.

MY FIRST AMENDMENT IS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, IF I MAY.

THAT REALLY COMPLICATES THINGS EVEN FURTHER.

IF YOU COULD MAKE ALL OF YOUR AMENDMENTS IN ONE MOTION TO AMEND, IT REALLY SIMPLIFIES THINGS.

JUST SUGGESTING YOU CAN DO IT HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE.

WELL, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT SOMEONE COUNCIL MIGHT LIKE ONE OF MY AMENDMENTS, BUT NOT THE OTHER ONES.

AGAIN. YOU CAN DO IT HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO I WILL MOVE TO AMEND THAT.

THE PICKLEBALL COURTS NOT HAVE LIGHTING, BUT THE LIGHTING ON ALL OTHER SPORTS WILL BE AS DISCUSSED ALREADY. THAT'S MY MOTION.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

SO, STERLING, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR, THE MOTION IS TO READ THE ORDINANCE BY TITLE FOR THE FIRST TIME ONLY, INCLUDING THE AMENDMENT THAT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS WILL HAVE.

OH. SO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, RIGHT? RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY THINK THE MAYOR NEEDS TO FINISH ASKING HER QUESTION FIRST.

YES. THANK YOU. I'LL ANSWER THAT AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE VOTING ON THE MOTION AND THEN WE'RE GOING BACK.

I MEAN, WE'RE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT AND THEN WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE ORDINANCE.

IF THE AMENDMENT PASSES, THEN IT WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE ACTUAL FIRST MOTION THAT WAS MADE TO READ THE ORDINANCE.

IF THE AMENDMENT DOES NOT PASS, THEN YOU'RE GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS IT WAS MADE.

THANK YOU, AND KEVIN.

SO THIS IS JUST A CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

WE HAVE A COMMENT FROM KEVIN FENSEL.

HI, MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

KEVIN PINCETL, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

I'M COMMENTING BECAUSE I ASSISTED AMY WITH DRAFTING THIS ORDINANCE, AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS REALLY ABOUT LIGHTING IN GENERAL.

IT AN AMENDMENT TO THIS ORDINANCE WE WOULDN'T PUT IN THIS ORDINANCE OR IN THE CODE WHICH COURTS ARE ACTUALLY LIT AND THINK AMY MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AT A FUTURE MEETING, AND I THINK THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO LIGHT THESE PICKLEBALL COURTS, BECAUSE THIS I WOULDN'T PUT THAT IN THE IN THE ORDINANCE OR IN THE CITY CODE.

BECAUSE IT IT WOULD THEN PERTAIN TO EVERY PARK.

NOT NECESSARILY. IT'S JUST THIS THIS ORDINANCE IS SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT SPORT, COURT LIGHTING AND THE HOURS THAT SPORT COURT LIGHTING WILL BE TURNED OFF IF YOU DECIDE LATER ON TO NOT PUT ANY LIGHTING ON THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, THAT'LL WORK JUST FINE WITHOUT THIS ORDINANCE AS CURRENTLY DRAFTED.

I THINK WHAT MR. MCCARTHY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY IS GOING HERE, IT WOULD ACTUALLY AMEND THIS ORDINANCE, AND WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS I WOULDN'T PUT THAT TYPE OF AMENDMENT IN THIS ORDINANCE. I WOULDN'T PUT ANYTHING ABOUT SPECIFIC PICKLEBALL COURTS IN THIS SECTION OF THE CITY CODE.

THIS SECTION OF THE CITY CODE IS SPECIFIC ABOUT WHEN WE LIKE COURTS, NOT WHETHER COURTS ACTUALLY HAVE LIGHTING ON THEM.

AND I SEE AMY NODDING HER HEAD.

AMY MIGHT CORRECT HERE AND HOW YOU WOULD BE.

HOW MEAN IF WE DON'T WANT TO LIGHT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, I THINK IT WOULD BE AT THAT FUTURE MEETING.

THAT IS CORRECT.

YEAH. SO HEARING THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION? ALL RIGHT. I'LL WITHDRAW.

OUT OF RESPECT FOR OUR ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I WILL WITHDRAW THIS, AND, BUT IT'LL COME UP AGAIN, AND THEN I'M GOING TO MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION.

YOU NEED TO SEE IF THE PERSON SECONDING MY MY AMENDMENTS IS AGREEABLE TO A WITHDRAWAL.

ARE YOU AGREEABLE? I AM, AND I WILL JUST COMMENT THAT I THINK THIS AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH MY ORIGINAL IDEAS OF NOT LIGHTING ONLY PICKLEBALL COURTS, AND I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE CAN STILL PURSUE CONTEXTUALLY AND SPECIFICALLY FOR, FOR FUTURE AMENITIES AROUND PICKLEBALL.

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SECONDING THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION AND HAVING THAT CONVERSATION IN DUE TIME.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, SO LET ME LET ME TAKE A BREATH HERE FOR JUST A SECOND.

LET ME JUST TAKE A BREATH HERE FOR JUST A SECOND.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THESE SPECIFICS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I DID. MAYOR AMY, I JUST WANTED TO HAVE YOU RESTATE SO IT'S CLEAR IN MY MIND THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU'RE THE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TODAY WILL BE FOR THE WHOLE PARK AT BUSHMASTER WITH THESE NEW HOURS AND THE NON SPORT COURT PARKS WILL HAVE THE SEPARATE HOURS.

AND THEN WE CAN IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.

THAT'S WHEN WE CAN IMPLEMENT NO LIGHTS.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

SO FOR CLARITY AND I'LL GO SLOW AND PAUSE AT EACH ITEM IF THAT HELPS.

SO THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF US TODAY IS IN REGARD TO CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS TO THE CURRENT CITY CODE.

SO THE CHANGES ENTAIL ALL IN GENERAL PARK HOURS SETS FOR ALL 24 OF OUR CURRENT PARKS IN OUR PARK SYSTEM, NO MATTER WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK CLOSING AT 10 P.M, AND THEN SPORT COURT LIGHTING WHEREVER IT EXISTS.

IT JUST HAPPENS TO EXIST IN TWO LARGE PARKS.

TODAY WOULD END AT 9 P.M.

EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

SO THAT IS WHAT THE ORDINANCE ENTAILS AND THE LANGUAGE AND TEXT IN THE ORDINANCE TODAY, AND THEN YES, AT A FUTURE DATE IN MY ANTICIPATION IS SOMETIME IN MID DECEMBER, I'LL BE ABLE TO BRING FORWARD AS A FULL AGENDA ITEM TO CITY COUNCIL AND DISCUSSION REGARDING THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED PICKLEBALL COURTS AT BUSHMASTER PARK THAT INCLUDE CURRENTLY TODAY LIGHTING, BUT WE WILL DISCUSS IT AT THAT TIME.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

DO YOU WANT TO VOICE YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. AMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW AND KNOW YOU JUST SAID IT A FEW MINUTES AGO.

THE OPENING TIMES FOR THE PARKS AND FOR WHEN LIGHTING.

WELL, I GUESS IT'S.

YEAH, THE OPENING HOURS, OF COURSE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. NOW WHAT? YES OF COURSE.

ABSOLUTELY. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY.

SO OPENING HOURS OF ALL PARKS.

SO ALL 24 OF THOSE PARKS IN OUR SYSTEM IS SUNRISE.

SO THAT WILL DIFFER DEPENDING ON THE DAY, BUT SUNRISE THERE WILL NOT BE ANY LIGHTING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE MORNING HOURS OF THESE SPORT COURTS.

NO LIGHTING OPPORTUNITIES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

AMY. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, DO YOU STILL HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE? I PROPOSE TO AMEND THE PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE TO SAY THAT THE PARKS WILL OPEN AT EITHER SUNUP OR 8 A.M., WHICHEVER IS LATER.

ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? AND THEN WE CAN GO TO DISCUSSION IF THERE'S A SECOND.

MADAM MAYOR, I'M JUST TAKING A SECOND TO LOOK UP SOME SORT OF CHART THAT SHOWS ME WHEN SUNRISE IS AT THIS LATITUDE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

I'M NOT SURE IT'S GOING TO BE RELEVANT.

I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE SUNRISE AFTER 8 A.M..

EVER AT THIS LATITUDE.

I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, VICE MAYOR.

I THINK IT RARELY OCCURS AFTER 8 A.M.

AT THIS LATITUDE.

I THINK IT'S A MOOT POINT.

ALL RIGHT. SO THERE IS NO SECOND SO THAT AMENDMENT FAILS.

NOW WE ARE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO READ THE ORDINANCE FOR THE FIRST TIME BY TITLE ONLY.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION MADE.

THAT'S RIGHT. THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO, AND I'VE FORGOTTEN.

WE HAD A WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND, DIDN'T WE? ALL RIGHT. SO ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT IT SEEMS THAT THE LATEST SUNRISE EVER OCCURS IN FLAGSTAFF IS 735.

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THE REAL ISSUE IS EARLIER THAN THAT.

FOR INSTANCE, IF THE SUN'S UP AT 6:00.

CAN PEOPLE MAKE NOISE BETWEEN 6:00 AND 8:00? THE MOTION FAILED, SO IT'S MOOT, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT BACKWARDS.

OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE.

THE MOTION TO REMIND EVERYONE WAS TO READ ORDINANCE NUMBER 202324 BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FIRST TIME. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES.

CITY CLERK. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AMENDING CITY CODE TITLE EIGHT.

PUBLIC WAYS AND PROPERTY.

CHAPTER 11 POLICIES REGARDING USE OF MUNICIPAL PARKS.

SECTION 8-11-001-0005.

USE BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC/HOURS OF USE PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES.

SEVERABILITY. AUTHORITY FOR CLERICAL CORRECTIONS AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU.

SO WE'RE MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 10C, CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-23.

[C. Consideration and Adoption of Ordinance No. 2023-23: An ordinance of the Flagstaff City Council authorizing the acquisition of real property interests for a fiber network as a betterment to the Rio de Flag Flood Control Project; providing for delegation of authority, repeal of conflicting ordinances, severability, clerical corrections, and establishing an effective date. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: At the October 17th Council Meeting: 1) Read Ordinance No. 2023-23 by title only for the first time 2) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2023-23 by title only (if approved above) At the November 7th Council Meeting: 3) Read Ordinance No. 2023-23 by title only for the final time 4) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2023-23 by title only (if approved above) 5) Adopt Ordinance No. 2023-23]

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

BRYCE DOTY, REAL ESTATE MANAGER.

THIS ORDINANCE TODAY AUTHORIZES THE AUTHORITY TO ACQUIRE FIBER EASEMENTS ALONG AND WITHIN THE CHANNEL FOR THE FLOOD CONTROL PROJECT.

SO COUNCIL HAS IN THE PAST AUTHORIZED THE RIGHT TO PURCHASE THE EASEMENTS THAT WE NEED FOR THE PROJECT.

SO WE'VE YOU'VE AUTHORIZED CHANNEL IMPROVEMENT EASEMENTS, AND THIS IS JUST GOING TO ADD THE ADDITION, THE ADDITIONAL.

RIGHT. THE KIND OF BUNDLE OF STICKS, THE RIGHT TO PUT FIBER WITHIN THAT LINE AS YOU'LL SEE HERE.

LET'S SEE. JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU THE VISUAL HERE, BUT REALLY ALL THIS IS, IS IT'S PRIMARILY ALL THROUGH EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY, BUT FOR THOSE PORTIONS WHERE WE DO NEED EASEMENTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTIES, WE ARE GOING TO ASK FOR AND ACQUIRE FIBER EASEMENT RIGHTS SO THAT WE CAN RUN FIBER AS A BEDROOM INTO THE PROJECT, AND THESE ARE THE SEGMENT MAPS FOR THE COURSE.

SO THESE ARE IDENTIFYING ALL THE PARCELS THAT WE NEED.

THE RED LINE IS JUST WHERE WE WANT TO PUT THE FIBER, AND THAT'S STARTING AT FRANCIS SHORT POND, AND THEN WE'RE HEADING SOUTH ALL THE WAY TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO PICK BACK UP WHERE THE SITE OF THE NEW DCC IS, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO RUN ALL THE WAY DOWN MIKE'S BIKE, CROSSING MILTON, AND THEN TERMINATING AT BLACKBIRD ROOST DOWN IN THE WEST OF TOWN, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE ACCOMPLISHES.

IT'S GOING TO USE THE SAME LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS AS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE FOR THE CHANNEL IMPROVEMENT EASEMENTS, AND WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU TO AUTHORIZE IT SO WE CAN BEGIN SENDING OUT THOSE OFFERS, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR.

JUST AT THE RISK OF BEING OBVIOUS, THIS IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH OUR DESIRE FOR A DIG ONCE POLICY CORRECT? CORRECT. THIS WILL BE PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN SET IS TO THEY'LL PLACE THE FIBER AND THEN WE'LL RUN IT AT A LATER DATE, BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT CONDUIT EXISTING THERE SO THAT WE CAN RUN IT.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAYOR, I MOVE TO READ ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-23 BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FIRST TIME.

DO I HAVE A SECOND. SECOND.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. CITY CLERK.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY INTERESTS FOR A FIBER NETWORK AS A BETTERMENT TO THE RIO DE FLAG FLOOD CONTROL PROJECT.

PROVIDING FOR DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY, REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, SEVERABILITY, CLERICAL CORRECTIONS AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANKS, BRYCE.

OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK.

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[A. Update on the Downtown Vision and Action Plan: The Vision & Action Plan will identify priorities and initiatives to guide improvements in Downtown Flagstaff over the next five to ten years. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Terry Madeksza, Executive Director for the Flagstaff Downtown Business Alliance (FDBA), will provide an update on the process and status for the Downtown Vision and Action Plan. The desired outcome of this update is to inform City Council on where in the process the Downtown Vision and Action Plan is, the intended scheduled to complete the Plan, and to provide opportunity for feedback. ]

MICHELLE MCNULTY, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO THE CONSULTANT TEAM THAT WILL BE GIVING TODAY'S PRESENTATION ON THE DOWNTOWN VISION AND ACTION PLAN.

CHANEY BOSTIC AND BRAD SIEGEL WITH PUMA PROGRESSIVE URBAN MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATES ARE HERE THIS EVENING AS WELL AS TERRY MADEKSZA, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE FLAGSTAFF DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.

JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, THE DOWNTOWN VISION AND ACTION PLAN IS BEING LED BY THE FLAGSTAFF DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION IN PARTNERSHIP, OR I'M SORRY, THE ALLIANCE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, COCONINO COUNTY, NEVADA, AND THIS PLAN SERVES AS THE DA'S STRATEGIC PLAN AND WILL GUIDE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INVESTMENTS OVER THE NEXT DECADE, AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN THE MIC OVER TO OUR CONSULTANT TEAM.

THANKS. YEAH, OF COURSE YOU'RE GOING TO STAND HERE.

HELLO. HELLO.

GOOD EVENING.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.

MY NAME IS BRAD SIEGEL, PRESIDENT OF PUMA.

JOINING ME TONIGHT IS JANIE BOSTICK, WHO'S ALSO THE PRINCIPAL OF STUDIO SEED.

SHE'S BEEN OUR PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT AND MANY, MANY, MANY OTHER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE WEST.

IT IS REALLY OUR PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND PRESENT TO YOU WHERE WE ARE WITH THE DOWNTOWN VISION PLAN.

YOU MAY RECALL WE KICKED THIS OFF.

WE WERE ACTUALLY HIRED IN FEBRUARY OF 2020 TO PUT TOGETHER THE DOWNTOWN VISION PLAN, AND THE WORLD SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED WITHIN WEEKS OF AFTER US BEING HIRED.

WE ADAPTED.

WE KEPT GOING.

FLAGSTAFF WAS ACTUALLY THE ONLY SITE VISIT WE CONDUCTED IN THAT FIRST YEAR OF THE PANDEMIC.

WE DROVE DOWN HERE IN AUGUST AND MET WITH FOLKS OUTSIDE, CONDUCTED SUBSTANTIAL OUTREACH THROUGH ONLINE MEANS, AND PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT OF A NEW DOWNTOWN VISION.

MOVING FORWARD.

TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT.

WE'LL TAKE MAYBE 20, 25 MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR OBVIOUSLY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THE DRAFT PLAN AFTER THAT INITIAL START WAS PRESENTED TO THE DBA BOARD IN MAY OF 21, IT WAS WENT ON HOLD FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

SO ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO WE STARTED WORKING WITH CITY STAFF AND DBA STAFF TO UPDATE THE PLAN, GET INTO THE POST-PANDEMIC MODE OF WHAT MAKES SENSE IN THIS PLAN, AND ALSO GET THE PLAN CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON CURRENTLY IN FLAGSTAFF AND SOME OF THE PLANNING ACTIVITIES.

OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE FOUND THAT ABOUT 90% OF THE WORK THAT WE PUT TOGETHER THROUGH 21 STILL APPLIES, AND WE HOPE THAT THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT ENRICH THE PLAN AND MAKE IT VERY TIMELY FOR TODAY MOVING FORWARD.

SO IN TERMS OF CURRENT CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE RESPONDING TO, WE ARE COORDINATING WITH THE REGIONAL PLAN THAT'S UNDERWAY, COORDINATING WITH THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED LAST YEAR, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE HOSPITAL LOCATION IS IN FLUX, MAY OR MAY NOT BE AT ITS CURRENT LOCATION, AND LOOKING AT HOW THAT IMPACTS DOWNTOWN, UPDATING THE PLAN TO REFLECT THAT WE'RE NO LONGER IN A PANDEMIC, WE'RE POST-PANDEMIC MOVING FORWARD AND ALSO EMPHASIZING POLICIES AND DIFFERENT IDEAS THAT DIRECTLY ADDRESS BOTH THE HOUSING AND CLIMATE EMERGENCIES.

SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN REFINE THE FINAL PLAN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INPUT REVIEW BY DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS WITHIN THE CITY.

THE PLAN WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND HOPE IS THAT THE COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN BY THE END OF THE YEAR. AS A REFRESHER, KEY POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS OF THIS PLAN ARE REALLY PROMOTING DOWNTOWN AS THE HUB OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND INNOVATION, NOT JUST FOR FLAGSTAFF, BUT FOR THE WHOLE REGION, PRESERVING AND PROTECTING THE HISTORIC CORE OF DOWNTOWN.

THIS WAS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THE COMMUNITY THROUGH OUR SURVEYS AND OUR COMMUNICATION.

THIS PLAN CERTAINLY REDOUBLES THOSE EFFORTS IMPLEMENTING THE CITY'S CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT DOWNTOWN IS THAT PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE, CAN WORK, CAN PLAY IN AN AREA THAT IS NOT DEPENDENT ON VEHICLES AND OTHER CAN USE OTHER MODES ALLOWING FOR CHANGE THAT DOWNTOWN IS NOT STATIC, THAT THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR DENSITY AROUND THAT HISTORIC CORE, AND THAT

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WE DO ADDRESS PARKING AND PARKING MANAGEMENT, HOW WE HOW WE HOW WE BEST MANAGE THE EXISTING PARKING SUPPLY AND HOW WE GROW ANY NEW PARKING SUPPLY IN A VERY INTENTIONAL AND DELIBERATE MANNER.

THIS IS A PARTICULAR PRIORITY OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN AND THEIR CUSTOMERS, ENCOURAGING LOCAL ARTS, CULTURE, NATIVE EXPRESSION TO FLOURISH IN DOWNTOWN, AND ALSO CREATING A DOWNTOWN EXPERIENCE THAT WELCOMES AND CELEBRATES EVERYONE THAT MAKES UP THE MOSAIC OF FLAGSTAFF.

THESE ARE EXCERPTS OF THE PLAN.

I'LL JUST POINT OUT SOME OF THE KEY, KEY ATTRIBUTES THAT ARE BEHIND ALL OF THIS EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

MORE THAN 2000 INPUTS THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

IN SOME WAYS, THE PANDEMIC DEMOCRATIZED SOME OF OUR PROCESS BY GETTING MORE INPUT ONLINE, AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAD THE ON SITE ENGAGEMENT AS WELL.

1250 FLAGSTAFF CITIZENS CHIMED IN ON THE ONLINE SURVEY.

GIVING US IDEAS, PRIORITIES, WHAT THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE FOR DOWNTOWN.

EXTENSIVE INVOLVEMENT THROUGH WORKING GROUPS, COMMITTEES FOR DOWNTOWN STAKEHOLDERS, AND FOLKS FROM ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE PLAN IS BOLSTERED BY A COMPREHENSIVE MARKET ASSESSMENT.

THE MARKET ASSESSMENT LOOKED AT ECONOMIC CONDITIONS REALLY IN 2019, SO IT PROVIDES A BASELINE FOR PRE-PANDEMIC FLAGSTAFF, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT MOVING FORWARD.

SO AS WE LOOK AT CHANGE, AS WE LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE YEARS AHEAD, HAVING THIS BASELINE DATA FROM 2019 BECOMES SUPER IMPORTANT.

IN GENERAL, WE FIND WE FOUND THAT DOWNTOWN WAS STRONG IN ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT SECTORS LIVE, WORK, SHOP, DINE, VISIT, STAY, LIVE.

THERE ARE MORE RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES AND DEMAND FOR DOWNTOWN WORK, A VARIETY OF EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES RANGING FROM SMALL ENTREPRENEURIAL VENTURES TO A NEED FOR AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE PRIMARY EMPLOYMENT TO BE CENTERED IN DOWNTOWN AND ADJACENT AREAS.

SHOP AND DINE LOOKING AT A CONTINUATION OF LOCAL INDEPENDENT SMALL BUSINESSES, ALL ALSO LOOKING AT BUSINESS CONCEPTS THAT ARE NOT JUST FOR VISITORS BUT ARE ALSO FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS AND FOR NEIGHBORHOODS ADJACENT TO DOWNTOWN.

VISIT AND STAY DOWNTOWN REMAINS A STRONG VISITOR DESTINATION.

WE COMPARED YOU TO OTHER MARKETS, OTHER INTER-MOUNTAIN MARKETS THAT HAVE COLLEGES.

LARGE COLLEGES HAVE SIMILAR GROWTH PATTERNS, SO YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT THE MARKET ASSESSMENT, WE COMPARE FLAGSTAFF TO COMMUNITIES SUCH AS BEND, OREGON, FORT COLLINS, COLORADO. MISSOULA, MONTANA.

BELLINGHAM, WASHINGTON.

BOULDER, COLORADO, AND CORVALLIS, OREGON.

THE PLAN THEN PROVIDES A VISION.

NOW WE START GETTING INTO WHAT'S NEXT.

SO ALL THAT BACKGROUND DATA, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THE MARKET ASSESSMENT PROVIDED THE BASIS FOR WHAT'S NEXT DOWNTOWN.

THE VISION FOR DOWNTOWN.

WHAT THE WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY.

THEY WANT A DOWNTOWN.

WE WANT A DOWNTOWN THAT'S VIBRANT, WALKABLE, ROLLABLE, HISTORIC, ALSO ADAPTABLE THAT IT'S NOT JUST CAUGHT IN ONE MOMENT IN TIME, THAT IT'S THRIVING, THAT IT'S WELCOMING AND INCLUSIVE, REALLY, THE LIVING ROOM FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.

THE CHART ON THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE SHOWS THE STRUCTURE OF THE PLAN ITSELF.

THE VISION IS REINFORCED BY A WHOLE SERIES OF CATALYTIC PROJECTS.

CHENEY IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE IN A MOMENT, AND THEN THERE'S AN ACTION PLAN.

HOW DO WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THIS STUFF? AND WE LOOKED AT THREE CATEGORIES ECONOMIC VITALITY, MAKING SURE, AGAIN, HOW DOES DOWNTOWN BE THAT HUB OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND OPPORTUNITY FOR THE REGION, EXPERIENCE AND URBAN DESIGN AND MOBILITY? THE ACTION PLAN.

THERE ARE ALMOST 100 RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE ACTION PLAN, BUT THEY ARE SEQUENCED.

SO SOME OF THESE ARE NEAR-TERM, SOME ARE MID TERM, SOME ARE LONG TERM.

WE ALSO LOOK AT WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE CITY TO LEAD, THE DBA TO LEAD, AND OTHER PARTNERS AS WELL.

THAT'S ALL SPELLED OUT IN THE ACTION PLAN.

SO AT THIS POINT I THINK I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE CHENEY, AND SHE'S GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE CATALYTIC PROJECTS THAT CAME UP THROUGH THIS PROCESS. THANKS, BRAD.

HI. MAYOR. COUNCIL.

THANK YOU.

IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK IN FLAGSTAFF, AND I WILL PRESENT JUST A COUPLE OF SLIDES ON THE CATALYTIC PROJECTS.

SO THE VISION PART OF THE PLAN, WE VISUALIZE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE DOWNTOWN SHOULD FOCUS ON TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS IN THE PLAN.

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SO THIS IS MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP WITH DEVELOPERS AND PRIVATE SECTOR.

IT'S ITS VISION FOR PRIVATELY OWNED LAND.

SOME OF IT IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE CITY AND COUNTY.

SO THAT'S IN THERE AS WELL, BUT JUST TO GIVE A DISCLAIMER THAT THESE ARE NOT ARCHITECTURE.

THEY'RE JUST KIND OF MASSING STUDIES AND GOALS AND GUIDELINES FOR WHAT COULD HAPPEN ON THESE SITES.

THIS MAP HIGHLIGHTS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY.

THAT ORANGE COLOR KIND OF REPRESENTS WHERE WE FOUND FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ON THE SLIDE BEFORE, WHEN WE COMPARE FLAGSTAFF TO OUR PEER COMMUNITIES, IT ACTUALLY CAME IN LAST IN RESIDENTIAL AND EMPLOYMENT DENSITY.

SO YOU ARE LOWER ON THE SCALE OF DENSITY, BOTH IN RESIDENTIAL AND EMPLOYMENT NUMBERS, THAN ALL OF YOUR PEER COMMUNITIES THAT WE LOOKED AT.

SO THESE KIND OF ORANGE BLOBS ON THE MAP ARE TYPICALLY PARKING LOTS.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING WE'RE SURFACE PARKING.

THEY'RE UNDERUTILIZED SITES THAT COULD BE BETTER UTILIZED FOR HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT AND OTHER USES TO MAKE YOUR DOWNTOWN MORE VIBRANT.

SO I'LL JUST WALK THROUGH A FEW OF THESE THAT WE HAVE IN THE PLAN.

NUMBER ONE BEING THE OLD CITY COURTHOUSE.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE MASSING STUDY, BUT WE DID TALK TO THE COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE, AND OPENING UP THE ALLEYS AND CREATING A PEDESTRIAN ALLEY PERMEABILITY, MAKING SURE THAT THE MASSING IS CONTROLLED, AND IT DOESN'T APPEAR AS ONE HUGE BUILDING, BUT MEETING THAT SERVICE AS A GATEWAY INTO THE INTO THE DOWNTOWN, AND THAT'S A KEY SITE.

SO WE HAVE GUIDELINES IN HERE ABOUT HOW THAT DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, AND WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO ISSUING AN RFQ FOR THAT.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THOSE GUIDELINES ARE FOLLOWED FROM THE PLAN.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT COUNTY PROPERTY, AND IN BACK IN 2019, 2020, THERE WAS IT WAS IN FLUX WHETHER THE COUNTY WOULD STAY OR OR MOVE OUT OF DOWNTOWN.

WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE REMAINING IN DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS GREAT AND ADDS TO THAT EMPLOYMENT DENSITY THAT WE NEED, BUT THERE ARE WAYS TO LOOK AT BETTER UTILIZING THE COUNTY PROPERTIES AS WELL.

SO WE LOOK AT INFILLING PARKING LOTS, ADDING PARKING STRUCTURES THAT COULD BE MULTI USE PARKING STRUCTURES, SERVE THE COMMUNITY PERHAPS AT NIGHT FOR NIGHTLIFE ACTIVITIES AND THEN EMPLOYEES DURING THE DAY, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OTHER SITES AROUND DOWNTOWN.

BIRCH AVENUE WAS ONE THAT WE LOOKED AT.

THERE WAS A SYNERGY OR A FOCUS OF UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTIES.

IT'S ACTUALLY TWO BANKS, BUT AS AS WE ALL KNOW, IN THIS DAY AND AGE GOING INTO A BANK AND DOING EVERYTHING'S ONLINE.

SO WHAT ARE THOSE GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE AND IS THERE A BETTER USE OF THAT LAND? SO WE SHOW SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROVIDING HOUSING AND MIXED USE AND BRINGING MORE ACTIVITY INTO AND AROUND THE CIVIC CORE WITH THE COURTHOUSE AND THE THEATER COMPANY, AS WELL AS WELL AS THE EASTSIDE GATEWAY.

THIS IS A MAJOR ONE.

SO AROUND VERDE AND ROUTE 66, WE SEE THIS AS A MAJOR OPPORTUNITY.

IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE HISTORIC CORE.

IT IS AN AREA WHERE ACTUALLY IT SLOPES DOWN TO.

SO IT IS AN AREA WHERE YOU COULD HAVE TALLER BUILDINGS WITHOUT WITHOUT IMPACTING VIEWS.

AGAIN, IF THEY'RE SCALED CORRECTLY, AND WE HAVE GUIDANCE IN THERE FOR THAT.

BUT THAT WHOLE AREA IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DOWNTOWN TO EXPAND THRIVE IN THE FUTURE AS WELL, AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE WE LOOKED AT COTTAGE AVENUE.

IT'S LISTED IN THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN AS A MAIN STREET FOR THE SOUTH SIDE, AND SO WE LOOKED AT OPPORTUNITIES AND CONCEPTS FOR AGAIN, INFILLING THOSE THOSE UNDERUTILIZED LOTS WITH MORE PLACEMAKING POCKET PARKS, ACTIVE USES, HOUSING AND MIXED USE, AND THEN FOR THE PLACEMAKING PROJECTS, THESE ARE MORE OF THE PUBLIC REALM.

SO WE'RE TALKING HERE ABOUT PUBLIC PROPERTIES, STREETS, ALLEYS, DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER AND HOW THOSE COULD BE BETTER UTILIZED MOVING FORWARD TO SERVE YOUR DOWNTOWN.

A LISTED AS THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION CENTER, WHICH IS NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS GREAT.

THAT'S GOING TO BRING IN THE DOWNTOWN MILE PROJECT.

THAT'S THERE'S A LOT OF SYNERGY BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROJECTS AND THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE UPDATES WAS GOING THROUGH THE PLAN AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THOSE PLANNED AND FUNDED PROJECTS.

E IS IS KIND OF ALL THE ALL OF THOSE STREETS, MAJOR STREETS, GATEWAYS, REALLY CREATING AN IDENTITY.

YOU'VE ARRIVED IN FLAGSTAFF DIRECTING PEOPLE.

IF WE WANT TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS AND WALKING AROUND AND USING MULTI MODES, THEY NEED SIGNAGE AND DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE TO TELL THEM WHERE TO GO AND WHAT'S DOWNTOWN TO SEE

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AND SO WE HAVE CONCEPT DESIGN IN THERE AS WELL, AND ALSO HOW IT CONNECTS TO THE VISITOR CENTER AND THE TRANSIT CENTER, AND THEN FINALLY HERITAGE SQUARE ACTIVATION, AND ALLY ACTIVATION WAS A BIG ONE THAT CAME OUT OF OUT OF THE PLAN, AND I THINK THESE WOULD HAVE CAME OUT OF THE PLAN REGARDLESS, BUT IT WAS EVEN MORE IMPACTFUL BECAUSE OF COVID.

IN OUR LINE OF WORK.

WE SAW THIS HAPPEN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY THAT THE CITIES STARTED TO RE-ENVISION AND REUSE THEIR DOWNTOWN SQUARES, THEIR ALLEYS, THEIR STREETS, EVEN. WE ACTUALLY HELPED YOU GUYS IMPLEMENT YOUR EXPANDED USE OF RIGHT OF WAY THAT EXPANDED CAFE SEATING DURING COVID.

WE ACTUALLY DONATED OUR TRAVEL BUDGET TO PAY FOR LIKE SEATING AND THINGS TO MAKE THAT BECOME A REALITY.

SO WE HAVE WORKED ON IN MANY COMMUNITIES WHERE THIS IS BECOMING A TREND AND YOU WANT TO MAKE THESE PUBLIC SPACES, WHICH WE USED TO THINK OF AS JUST FOR A SINGLE USE FOR AUTOS OR FOR PLAZA SPACE FOR EVENTS.

NOW THEY'RE BECOMING VERY FLEXIBLE SPACES AND TRYING TO GET CREATIVE WITH HOW THOSE COULD BE USED IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE ALSO RECOMMEND HERITAGE SQUARE AND ALLY ACTIVATION AS A WAY TO BEAUTIFY AND ACTIVATE YOUR DOWNTOWN IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO BRAD.

FINAL THREE SLIDES.

WE JUST WANTED TO SUMMARIZE DIFFERENT EDITS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THIS PLAN.

SO BACK IN 21, WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING THE FIRST ITERATION OF THIS, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF EDITS.

THE COUNTY AGAIN HAD CHANGED ITS POLICY ABOUT MOVING OUT OF DOWNTOWN.

THERE WERE SOME LANGUAGE AND SOME HISTORY EDITS THAT WE MADE UPDATED GROUND FLOOR USES TO ALLOW MORE THAN RETAIL.

THIS IS ALSO GOING TO BE IMPORTANT MOVING FORWARD.

STOREFRONT ACTIVATION A PRIORITY NOT JUST IN FLAGSTAFF, BUT VIRTUALLY EVERY COMMUNITY WE'RE WORKING IN RIGHT NOW IN A DOWNTOWN.

SO INCLUDE COWORKING INCUBATORS, MAKER SPACES, SMALLER LEASABLE SPACES THAT SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES CAN AFFORD.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH THE DBA, AND THERE'S A SECTION OF THIS PLAN THAT LOOKS AT STRENGTHENING THE DBA MOVING FORWARD.

THE INTENTION HERE IS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT IT'S REALLY NOT THE CITY NOR THE DBA ALONE, BUT REALLY MERGING BOTH ENTITIES AND OTHER PARTNERS TO COLLABORATIVELY WORK TOWARD IMPROVING DOWNTOWN.

MAJOR EDITS THIS THIS GO ROUND.

SO WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, WORKING WITH CITY STAFF, WORKING WITH THE DBA, WE UPDATED A LOT.

WE GOT RID OF A LOT OF PANDEMIC LANGUAGE SINCE WE'RE PAST THAT, LOOKED AT SOME HISTORICAL CONTEXT AND NAVAJO ORIGIN LANGUAGE, AND WORKED WITH CULTURAL RESOURCES WITHIN THE CITY TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT RIGHT.

MORE RESPONSES TO THE URGENT HOUSING AND CLIMATE INITIATIVES AND NEEDS THAT FLAGSTAFF HAS CONTINUED TO FOCUS ON ON THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

COORDINATION WITH REGIONAL PLAN 2045 AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT GOALS, AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS WITH THE PLANNERS, COORDINATION WITH THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN, DOWNTOWN MILE, AND ALSO JUST UPDATING THE PLAN TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOME OF THE INVESTMENTS AND PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

SO LAST SLIDE, NEXT STEPS.

WE'RE HERE. THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY WILL CONTINUE WITH DBA AND STAFF WORKING WITH DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS OVER THE NEXT 4 TO 6 WEEKS.

WE DO PROPOSE TO PUT THE PLAN ON THE DBA, PERHAPS CITY WEBSITE, AND LAUNCH A SURVEY WHERE PEOPLE CAN REVIEW THE PLAN AND GIVE US THEIR THOUGHTS.

WHAT DO THEY LIKE? WHAT DO THEY NOT LIKE? ANYONE IN FLAGSTAFF WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO OPINE ON THAT, AND THEN MICHELLE KNOWS MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO, BUT THEN BACK TO YOU.

NOT FOR ADOPTION, BUT FOR APPROVAL.

A FORMAL APPROVAL PROCESS COMING BACK TO YOU BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO WITH THAT, ANY FINAL THOUGHTS, TERI OR MICHELLE? GREAT. YEAH.

SO WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE IN PERSON, LIVE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. TERRY.

ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?

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IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, I WOULD LOVE TO ADD COMMENT.

WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS I'M TERRY MIDEKSA.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE FLAGSTAFF DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE.

AS BRAD SAID, IT IS OUR PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT IN PERSON WITH OUR CONSULTANT TEAM TO SHARE THIS UPDATE.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO REINVIGORATING THE PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WORKING WITH CURRENT CITY, COUNTY, MOUNTAIN LION, AND COMMUNITY PRIORITIES.

THAT'S ALL BEEN FOLDED INTO THIS.

THIS DRAFT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.

THERE IS STILL TIME, THOUGH, FOR US TO SEEK NOT ONLY YOUR FEEDBACK, BUT FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS AT LARGE.

SO WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU AGAIN ONCE WE HEAR FROM MORE PEOPLE, AND REALLY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE DOWNTOWN A PLACE FOR PEOPLE NOT JUST TO VISIT.

WE LOVE OUR VISITORS.

WE WANT TO KEEP OUR VISITATION STRONG.

WE JUST WANT TO ADD A RESIDENTIAL AND A PRIMARY EMPLOYMENT COMPONENT.

SO THAT STRENGTHENS THE DOWNTOWN WE KNOW AND LOVE AND CAN CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE IN MAKING FLAGSTAFF A HEALTHY AND ECONOMICALLY VIABLE CITY, AND I THINK DOWNTOWN PLAYS A BIG ROLE IN THAT.

SO WE JUST WANT TO REFLECT WHAT WE'RE HEARING AS PRIORITIES.

GET SOME RESIDENTS LIVING, WALKING, WORKING, SPENDING DOWNTOWN AND CHECKING OR PARTICIPATING IN WHAT THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY AND OUR AND OUR COMMUNITY HAVE VOICED.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

I REALLY LOVED ALL OF IT AND ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE ADDITIONS THAT YOU'VE MADE.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ACTION ASPECT OF IT.

I WAS READING THROUGH THE I THINK IT'S CHAPTER FIVE OR TOWARDS THE BACK DISCUSSING THE IMPLEMENTATION, AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN OVERVIEW OF HOW WE MOVE THIS FROM VISION INTO ACTION? YEAH, I'LL LET BRAD SPEAK FIRST AND CHIME IN AFTER.

SO, BRAD. THANKS.

GREAT QUESTION. WE'VE WORKED IN MANY COMMUNITIES THAT THERE'S SOME FRUSTRATION WITH PAST PLANNING EFFORTS.

WE DID THIS GREAT PLAN. IT WAS WONDERFUL, AND THEN BAM, NOTHING HAPPENED.

SO WE ACTUALLY PRIDE OURSELVES ON STRONG IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES.

SO I'LL JUST PREFACE MY COMMENTS WITH THAT.

THERE ARE THOSE THREE DIFFERENT BUNDLES THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, AND THERE'S AN ANTICIPATION THAT THE DBA AND THE CITY WOULD BE SHEPHERDING OR LEADING THOSE BUNDLES. WE HAVE CAREFULLY SEQUENCED WHAT MAKES SENSE? WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH 100 IDEAS, AND NOT A ROAD MAP OF HOW ARE WE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO THIS STUFF.

SO PART OF THESE IDEAS, MAYBE A THIRD OF THE IDEAS MAKE SENSE IN THE NEAR TERM, WHICH IS THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THEN THE NEXT SET OF IDEAS FOLD IN AND THEN THE NEXT SET OF IDEAS FOLD IN.

SO IT IS SEQUENCED.

THE PLAN ALSO LOOKS AT FINANCING, AND THAT'S OFTEN AN OVERLOOKED ASPECT OF A PLAN LIKE THIS.

SO WE LOOK AT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT FINANCING SOURCES.

SOME OF THOSE ARE CITY.

SOME OF THOSE ARE THE DBA BEING MORE ENTREPRENEURIAL MOVING FORWARD.

WE ALSO LOOK AT HOW OTHER MECHANISMS THAT ARE BEING TALKED ABOUT TO SOLVE CITY WIDE CHALLENGES COULD BE EMPLOYED IN DOWNTOWN.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, COMMUNITY LAND TRUST I BELIEVE IS SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE FRONT BURNER HERE THAT COULD HAVE APPLICATIONS DOWNTOWN AS WELL.

IT'S NOT JUST OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS THAT REALLY TO DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IMPLEMENTATION WILL DEPEND ON THE STRENGTH OF THE PARTNERSHIP THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED HERE.

SO I MENTIONED EARLIER PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, AND WE DO HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE DBA SIDE, I THINK I'M NOT OUT OF SCHOOL BY SAYING THAT ONE OF THE REASONS WE WERE HIRED IS A DESIRE TO HAVE A STRONGER DBA MOVING FORWARD.

DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCES ARE COMMON IN CITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, THROUGHOUT ARIZONA.

I WILL SAY THAT YOURS IN THE PAST HAS BEEN UNDERCAPITALIZED AND HAS BEEN SPREAD VERY THIN.

SO WE DO HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE DBA TO STRENGTHEN THEM, TO DIVERSIFY THEIR FUNDING AND TO BE A MORE ACTIVE

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I THINK SOME OF THEM ARE IN THE ROOM TODAY, BUT THERE ARE OTHER PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL.

SO IMPLEMENTATION TO US REALLY RELATES TO THE STRENGTH OF THIS PLAN, HELPING TO CREATE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WHERE THE CITY, THE DBA OR THE CORPS, THERE ARE OTHER PARTNERS AND HOPEFULLY GUIDED BY THE SEQUENCING AND THE RESOURCE OPTIONS, WE CAN GET SOME STUFF DONE.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THAT PUMA AS OUR EXPERTS CAME IN AND CREATED THIS PLAN.

THE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY IS JUST THAT.

THIS IS PROVIDED TO US BY OUR EXPERTS, BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT HAS BEEN VETTED BY CITY STAFF.

WE HAVE HAD ACTIVE PARTICIPATION FROM, I THINK, EVERY SINGLE DIVISION AT THE CITY, NOT JUST FROM THE DIVISION DIRECTOR LEVEL, BUT FROM STAFF AS WELL.

SO FROM BEAUTIFICATION, FROM PARKS, FROM ECONOMIC VITALITY, FROM PLANNING.

THEY HAVE ALL HAD THE CHANCE TO REVIEW AND WEIGH IN AND ACTUALLY PROVIDE FEEDBACK SPECIFIC TO THE IMPLEMENTATION.

YES, WE CAN DO THIS.

NO WE CANNOT, AND THAT HAS BEEN REFLECTED.

SO I THINK WHAT WE HAVE AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO BE A DOCUMENT THAT IS DOABLE, IT'S ACHIEVABLE.

IT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH AND IT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO MEASURE, AND THAT WAS BUILT WITH PARTNERS AT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING FEEDBACK.

WHAT WOULD BE A PRODUCTIVE WAY FOR FOR PEOPLE TO COMMENT AND GIVE YOU FEEDBACK ON THIS BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL.

WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD TO SORT OF FIGURE THAT OUT.

WE ARE GOING TO POST THIS PLAN ON OUR WEBSITE SO ANYBODY WILL HAVE ACCESS.

I WILL SHARE THE LINK WITH YOU ONCE IT'S LIVE.

IT WILL BE DONE BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.

WE'LL ISSUE A PRESS RELEASE.

WE'LL INVITE PEOPLE TO READ THE PLAN, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH PUMA TO HELP DEVELOP QUESTIONS, TO ASK AND SEEK PEOPLE'S INPUT AND FEEDBACK, TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT PEOPLE LIKE, WHAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE, WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE CHANGED.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CAST A WIDE NET AND WE'LL SEEK SOME GENERAL FEEDBACK THAT WAY.

IN ADDITION, WE ARE MAKING THE ROUNDS TO COMMISSIONS.

I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION.

I AM PLAN TO SPEAK TO BEAUTIFICATION, AND THERE'S A FEW OTHERS THAT WILL BE WORKING TO SCHEDULE TO SEEK FEEDBACK IN THOSE FORUMS, AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO SENT THIS OUT SORT OF SPECIFIC TO COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

SO CREATIVE FLAGSTAFF HAS RECEIVED IT, CUBED HAS RECEIVED IT, AND SOME OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE WORK WITH SO, SO VERY CLOSELY.

WE'VE ALREADY SENT IT OUT SEEKING THEIR FEEDBACK, SO WE'LL KEEP WORKING AT IT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH A GOOD STORY AND SOME BROAD SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING IN AND BEING HERE IN PERSON.

GREAT TO SEE YOU, AND I ALSO WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR DONATING THE FURNITURE FROM YOUR TRAVEL FUND.

I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU DID THAT.

SO THANK YOU. CUSTOMERS DEFINITELY ENJOYED THAT.

IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER.

I JUST WROTE DOWN SOME COMMENTS THAT THIS PLAN.

I DOVE DEEP ON IT AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE AND I CAN SEE THE COLLABORATION THAT IT TOOK, AND I APPRECIATE THAT EVERYONE WORKED TOGETHER ON THIS, AND IT DOES INCLUDE TACKLING OUR HOUSING AND CLIMATE EMERGENCIES, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO REMEMBER.

AND IT CREATES A LIVE WORK, PLAY EXPERIENCE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AND I LOVE THAT, AND IT HAS VISION AND IT HAS TANGIBLE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THAT VISION HAPPEN, AND I THINK THAT'S VERY EXCITING.

I LOVE OUR DOWNTOWN.

I AM JUST BEYOND THRILLED TO SEE THAT THERE IS THAT VISION, AND I HOPE THAT I'M HERE TO SEE EVERYTHING COME TO FRUITION, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE AN AMAZING PLACE.

IT ALREADY IS. IT'LL JUST BE EVEN MORE AMAZING, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.

YES. THANK YOU, AND IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT, VICE MAYOR?

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I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TIME ON THE MIC JUST TO HEAR MYSELF TALK, BUT I DO.

I DO SUPPOSE I WANT TO WEIGH IN, AND I THINK THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION AND TIME TO TELEGRAPH SOME OF MY OWN THOUGHTS AND THE WAYS THAT I THINK ABOUT THIS AND THE WAY I PROCESS ALL OF IT.

VERY GLAD TO HAVE YOU GUYS ON BOARD.

IT'S SO NICE THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THAT IT'S A PUBLIC PROCESS, THAT IT'S BEING WELL ENGAGED AND OVER TIME, AND THAT YOU'RE CAPTURING CHANGES IN ATTITUDES. AS OUR OUR CITY CONTINUES TO EVOLVE AND EXPERIENCE UNCERTAINTY IN A LOT OF WAYS, AND JUST ROLLING WITH THE PUNCHES IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS A LITTLE BIT, AND JUST PUSH FOR A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY OF A DOWNTOWN.

THIS IS KIND OF A NEW WAY OF THINKING FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, PROBABLY, BUT I THINK THE FUTURE OF FLAGSTAFF IS GOING TO BE AT ITS BEST IF WE HAVE LOTS OF DENSITY DOWNTOWN.

MORE RESIDENTS LIVING DOWNTOWN.

THIS INCLUDES TALLER BUILDINGS.

IT INCLUDES PARKING, HEADACHES AND THINKING ABOUT THE WAY WE GET AROUND AND OUR VIEWSHEDS AND JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO OPEN UP TO AND EMBRACE SOME URBAN PHILOSOPHIES AND IDEAS FOR OUR DOWNTOWN REGION. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT.

OTHERWISE WE END UP WITH SPRAWL, AND WE END UP WITH A COMMUNITY THAT'S JUST SPREADING OUT, LIKE LIKE CULTURES ON AN AGAR PLATE, UNCHECKED, AND THAT PRESSURE WILL GO WHERE IT CAN, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US UP HERE TO REALLY FACILITATE THAT CONVERSATION AND HELP MOVE FOLKS ALONG ON IT.

THE IMPORTANCE OF A VIBRANT URBAN DOWNTOWN FOR A TOWN THIS SIZE, AND FOR A TOWN THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW, HAS REALLY BEEN IMPRESSED UPON ME, AND I DO FEEL IT'S INCUMBENT UPON ME TO CARRY THAT MESSAGE FORWARD AND TO HELP PEOPLE EVOLVE IN THEIR THINKING WITH HOW FLAGSTAFF SHOULD SHOULD APPROACH ITS NEAR FUTURE.

WE CAN PROTECT WHAT WE HAVE ON THE OUTER RIM, ON THE OUTER RING OF WHAT FLAGSTAFF IS, BY LEANING INTO SOME OF THE POSSIBILITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US, AND THE MODERN URBAN ENVIRONMENT THAT FLAGSTAFF COULD POTENTIALLY OFFER US, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS THAT THERE'S PUBLIC INPUT, THERE'S PUBLIC BUY IN, AND THAT IT'S A VERY TRANSPARENT, HONEST, AUTHENTIC CONVERSATION AND VERY, VERY FEEL VERY PRIVILEGED TO BE A PART OF IT AND TO BE A PART OF THE HIVE MIND THAT IS GOING TO BE THINKING THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS IN THE PAST NOW, AND AT LEAST FOR A LITTLE WHILE, INTO THE FUTURE, AND REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL THE EXCITING INNOVATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE AND EXPLORE TOGETHER.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

THANK YOU, AND JUST TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT, I DO APPRECIATE IN THE PLAN THAT IT IS INTENTIONAL DENSITY, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOCATIONS, IT KIND OF BOOKENDS OUR DOWNTOWN.

IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE HISTORIC VALUE.

IT REALLY DOES ADD THAT IN THE RIGHT SPOT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU LOOKED AT THAT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, MAY I PROVIDE A COMMENT? THANK YOU. MAYOR. VICE MAYOR.

COUNCIL. THESE COMMENTS REALLY ARE SO WONDERFUL TO HEAR.

I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF EXPAND A LITTLE.

YOU HEARD BRAD MENTIONED THAT WE STARTED THIS PROCESS A LONG TIME AGO, AND FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, WE WERE DELAYED.

BUT THAT DELAY, WHILE UNFORTUNATE, HAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT US TO A PLACE WHERE I THINK AS A COMMUNITY AND AS POLICY MAKERS, WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT DOWNTOWN AS A PLACE FOR SOME POTENTIAL DENSITY IN THE RIGHT PLACES TO FIT OUR ENVIRONMENT. THREE YEARS AGO, WE WERE VERY SKEPTICAL OF EVEN USING THE TERM GENTLE DENSITY, AND NOW, THREE YEARS LATER, WITH A HOUSING AND A CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND AN EXISTING SURFACE LOTS THAT ARE UNDERDEVELOPED, WE'RE NOW ABLE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE DOWNTOWN AS PART OF THE SOLUTION, AND SO TO ME, YES, WE'VE BEEN DELAYED AND THERE HAVE BEEN FRUSTRATIONS, BUT WE'RE IN A PLACE RIGHT NOW WHERE I THINK THIS COMMUNITY AND OUR POLICY MAKERS ARE READY TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN DOWNTOWN IS PART OF IT.

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IT'S WALKABLE, IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO TRANSPORTATION.

WE HAVE SURFACE LOTS THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED.

WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT TAKING DOWN BUILDINGS OR TREES.

WE'RE LOOKING AT UNDERDEVELOPED PARCELS AS THEY STAND TODAY, WHICH ARE ASPHALT, AND SO TO ME, THINKING ABOUT HOW THE PERIMETER OF OUR HISTORIC CORE CAN REDEVELOP IS VERY EXCITING, AND I THINK THE THAT THE TIMING, DESPITE THE UNFORTUNATE DELAY, THE TIMING IS RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. TERRY. ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE HAVE JONATHAN STONE FROM CREATIVE FLAGSTAFF.

OH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR.

COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JONATHAN STONE, AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CREATIVE FLAGSTAFF.

I REALIZED I HAD SPENT A LONG TIME WHERE I'VE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILL OUT A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD.

SO I FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND SOME OF YOU KNOW THAT I'M A FORMER DOWNTOWN MANAGER, SO I LOVE TO WHEN I GET TO ADVOCATE FOR HISTORIC BUSINESS DISTRICTS AND ARTS AND CULTURE TOGETHER, AND OF COURSE, APPLAUD THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS AND THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT REPRESENTS CREATIVE FLAGSTAFF OF COURSE, LOVES PLACEMAKING.

YOU SEE THAT IN IN THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE CREATED, ESPECIALLY ART X AND HOW THAT KIND OF ACTIVATES PUBLIC SPACES AND WHAT THAT MAYBE MEANS LONGER TERM MIXED USE, JUST ON A PERSONAL NOTE, IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK HELPS CREATE A LOT MORE VIBRANCY THE PLAN PROVIDES A FRAMEWORK TO MOVE FORWARD IN A COORDINATED WAY FOR OUR CIVIC CENTER, AND I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT'S NOT OUR ONLY BUSINESS CENTER, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT BUSINESS CENTER AND THAT DOWNTOWN MANAGEMENT RELIES ON CONSENSUS AND STRONG PARTNERSHIPS.

AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THE GOAL TO CULTIVATE LOCAL ARTS AND CULTURE AS A FOUNDATION TO DOWNTOWN IS OF KEEN INTEREST AND PRESENTS A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES TO EMPHASIZE ARTS AND CULTURE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND TOURISM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT.

JUST LAST WEEK, AMERICANS FOR THE ARTS RELEASED ITS NATIONAL ARTS AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY STUDY.

IN 2022, CULTURAL, NONPROFITS, ARTS AND CULTURE NONPROFITS NATIONALLY GENERATED $151 BILLION IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, AND LOCALLY, THAT WAS NEARLY $90 MILLION, AND YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT IF YOU EXPAND BEYOND JUST OUR NONPROFIT SECTOR TO OUR FOR PROFIT AND MICRO BUSINESS, ORPHEUM, DOWNTOWN GALLERIES AND MUCH MORE, THAT NUMBER EXPANDS QUITE A BIT, AND SO ARTS ARE A WINNING STRATEGY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELL BEING, AND SO THANK YOU DOWNTOWN FOR INCLUDING ARTS AND CULTURE AS PART OF THAT IN THE CITY AND PARK CITY AND OTHER PARTNERS FOR EMBRACING THAT OPPORTUNITY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT CREATIVE FLAGSTAFF IS CHARGED WITH CULTURAL PLANNING FOR THE CITY, AND ASSUMING THIS PLAN MOVES FORWARD, WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN OUR BOARD. LOOKS FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THE VISION IN MORE DETAIL WITH THE DBA.

ONE OBJECTIVE OF NOTE IS THE DISCUSSION ABOUT NEW ARTS FACILITIES, AND THAT ONE IS ONE THAT WILL REQUIRE DUE DILIGENCE, WHICH IS PART OF CREATIVE FLAGSTAFF STRATEGIC PLAN.

IT IS SAFE TO ASSUME THAT DOWNTOWN SHOULD BE HOME TO SIGNIFICANT CULTURAL FACILITIES, AND YOU MIGHT EVEN CONSIDER WHAT THAT MEANS WITH RESPECT TO ONE OF THE CATALYTIC SITES.

WHILE MY COMMENTS ARE FOCUSED ON CULTURAL GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER WAYS TO PROVIDE.

THE PLAN PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN AND BEYOND THE CULTURAL SECTOR, SO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THE PLAN.

THANK YOU. VERY WELL TIMED.

IT'S LIKE I PLANNED IT. ALL RIGHT.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? I DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE GREAT, AND THOROUGH PRESENTATION, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO DISCUSS THIS.

ONE MOMENT COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY HAS A COMMENT.

WELL, THANK YOU MAYOR.

AS I READ THROUGH THIS A FEW DAYS AGO, BEFORE THIS MEETING, THERE WAS A COUPLE KEY WORDS THAT CAME OUT THAT REALLY RESONATED WITH ME, AND I JUST WANT TO REPEAT THOSE WORDS.

LIVABLE. A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE.

WALKABLE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MAKES A DOWNTOWN AND MIXED USE, WHICH OF COURSE IS COMMERCIAL ON THE

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I LOVE OUR DOWNTOWN.

I THINK I TOLD TERRY ONCE THAT WHEN I WAS WORKING ON MY MASTER'S DEGREE, THEY TOLD US THAT THERE WAS ONLY TWO KINDS OF DOWNTOWNS.

ONES THAT ARE GETTING BETTER AND ONES THAT ARE GETTING WORSE.

THEY NEVER STAY THE SAME AND THINK WE'RE ON THE ROUTE TO HAVE A BETTER DOWNTOWN.

IT'S GREAT ALREADY, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER YET.

I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, AND THANK YOU AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT. WE ARE MOVING DOWN TO 11 B, DISCUSSION OF THE WILDLAND FIRE MITIGATION AND MANAGEMENT COMMISSION REPORT.

[B. Discussion of the Wildland Fire Mitigation and Management Commission Report STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Discussion Only]

ALL RIGHT. WHERE'S THE SLIDE.

PRESENTER. VIEW THAT GUY? YEP. NOPE. THAT ONE? YEP. EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR., COUNCIL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING SOME TIME TO CHAT ABOUT THE WILDFIRE MITIGATION AND MANAGEMENT COMMISSION REPORT.

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE HISTORY OF HOW THIS REPORT CAME TOGETHER, SOME THEMES AND RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I THINK MY BIG TAKEAWAY IS PLEASE READ THE REPORT.

WE'LL GET YOU GUYS A COPY IF YOU WANT ONE.

I KNOW IT'S LARGE, BUT THIS IS THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

THIS IS GOING TO SET THE NARRATIVE FOR HOW WE AS A NATION LIVE WITH WILDFIRE, PRESCRIBED FIRE, INDIGENOUS CULTURAL BURNING, ALL KINDS OF INCREDIBLE THEMES FOR, FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND AGAIN ON OUR WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, INCREASE AND MAINTAIN WILDFIRE RESILIENCE, THINKING ABOUT OUR THE MISSION AND VISION OF OUR CITY, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.

THIS REPORT ALIGNS WITH WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE DOING IN OUR COMMUNITY AND TAKES IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL OF THOUGHT ON HOW WE CAN SOLVE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING, NOT JUST IN FLAGSTAFF, BUT IN AREAS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, AND SO ONE THING THAT WE REALLY BASED THIS REPORT ON IS SOMETHING THAT STARTED IN THE 1970S, A PREVIOUS COMMISSION THAT WAS CREATED WITH WITH A TASK OF PROVIDING A REPORT TO CONGRESS.

IT CREATED A REPORT CALLED AMERICA BURNING, AND SO MAY 4TH OF THIS YEAR MARKED THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE RELEASE OF THE AMERICA BURNING REPORT.

THE NATIONAL COMMISSION ON FIRE PREVENTION AND CONTROL'S COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF FIRE SAFETY AND PREVENTION THAT REVEALED THE TREMENDOUS SCOURGE OF FIRE ON THE NATION.

THE AMERICA BURNING REPORT WAS A WATERSHED MOMENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE FIRE SERVICE.

THIS CREATED THE US FIRE ADMINISTRATION, THE NATIONAL FIRE ACADEMY, AND THE FEDERAL FIRE PREVENTION AND CONTROL ACT OF 1974, SO CREATING A FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION TO SUPPORT MUNICIPAL AND LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND DISTRICTS, PROVIDING GUIDANCE FOR THINGS LIKE SMOKE DETECTORS THAT CAME OUT OF THIS REPORT. IT WAS JUST A VERY TRANSFORMATIONAL DOCUMENT, AND THE WILDFIRE MITIGATION AND MANAGEMENT COMMISSION WAS LARGELY BASED ON A SIMILAR HOPE AND EXPECTATION THAT OUR REPORT, CREATED WITH EXPERTS PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS TO CONGRESS, COULD CREATE A NARRATIVE THAT WILL REVITALIZE OUR NATIONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH WILDLAND FIRE AND THE WAY THAT THIS REPORT REALLY MADE A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT CHANGES FOR URBAN FIRE.

SO DEFINING THE CRISIS.

THIS ONE'S A FAIRLY EASY SLIDE FOR US IN FLAGSTAFF.

THIS ISN'T HAPPENING SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THIS IS HAPPENING HERE, AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

EARLIER THIS YEAR THERE WAS WILDFIRES MAKING THE NEWS IN RHODE ISLAND.

IN WISCONSIN.

THIS IS A NATIONAL CRISIS.

ON THIS MAP, WE CAN JUST SEE THE PROJECTED CHANGE IN ANNUAL FIRE PROBABILITY FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

SO THIS CRISIS REALLY IS AN INTERNATIONAL CRISIS.

WE HAD A LOT OF AREAS IN THIS THIS YEAR GETTING SMOKE FROM FIRES IN CANADA.

SO LOOKING AT RESILIENCE TO NATURAL OR UNNATURAL FIRE EFFECTS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS ALL OVER THE GLOBE RIGHT NOW.

SO DEFINING THE CRISIS, REALLY THINKING ABOUT HOW MANY COMMUNITIES ARE THREATENED BY WILDFIRE BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 2005 AND 2022, NEARLY 100,000 STRUCTURES WERE DESTROYED BY WILDFIRE. SO AGAIN, REALLY SETTING THE TONE HERE, THE NEED, THE SCALE.

THIS COMMISSION REALLY ADDRESSED A NATIONAL CRISIS.

SO THE BACKGROUND.

THIS COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW, AND I THINK BACKING UP A LITTLE BIT, UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS COMMISSION WORKED IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT AS YOU READ THROUGH THIS ON KIND OF UNDERSTANDING HOW WE GOT TO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

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SO WE WERE TASKED DIRECTLY WITH VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AROUND SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE ALSO HAD VERY WIDE SIDEBOARDS TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX ON SOME NEEDS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY IN THE STATUTE OF THE COMMISSION THAT AS A GROUP, WE DECIDED, WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO GO AFTER 50 MEMBERS FROM VERY DIVERSE GROUPS.

THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO REPORTS.

THE FIRST ONE WAS BASED ON AVIATION AND THAT WAS SUBMITTED IN FEBRUARY OF EARLIER THIS YEAR.

IT REALLY LOOKED INTO THE REALITY THAT WE'RE USING SECOND HAND AIR PLATFORMS. WE'RE NOT USING AIRCRAFT DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR RESPONDING TO WILDFIRES.

WE'RE USING OTHER AIRCRAFT DESIGNED FOR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BEING RETROFIT TO RESPOND TO WILDFIRES, AND AGAIN, SIMILAR TO WHAT THIS REPORT GETS INTO OUR WORKFORCE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE AT THE RIGHT PLACE WITH THE RIGHT SKILLS TO UTILIZE THESE RESOURCES? AND SO THE 50 MEMBERS ON THIS COMMISSION, WE HAD 14 FEDERAL MEMBERS FROM DIFFERENT AGENCIES, 36 STATE, NGO, ACADEMIC AND OTHER SEATS.

IT WAS NONPARTISAN AT ALL.

AT NO POINT DID POLITICS COME INTO PLAY WITH THIS.

IT WAS REALLY INCREDIBLE, THE DIVERSITY OF FOLKS IN THE ROOM AND HOW WE ALL WORK TOGETHER ONE DAY WE'RE WE'RE ON THE PHONE CALLING SOMEBODY FROM AN NGO, AND IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA THE NEXT DAY, WE'RE TALKING TO A RANCHER IN SOUTHEAST OREGON.

WE HAD EVERY BIT OF OF ENERGY IN THE ROOM OF PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING IMPACTED BY WILDFIRES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AND ALL FOCUSED IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY, AND SO WORKGROUPS WERE REALLY THE ENERGY BEHIND THIS PROCESS.

WE HAD TEN WORKGROUPS.

I LED THE RESPONSE COORDINATION GROUP AND PARTICIPATED IN LANDSCAPES AND WORKFORCE, AND SO THE REPORT IS NOT FOLLOWING THESE WORKGROUPS DIRECTLY, BUT THIS IS HOW WE ORGANIZED OUR WORK. SO EACH WORKGROUP WOULD COME TOGETHER AND CREATE FINDINGS, AND THEN WE IDENTIFIED RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAD TO BE RELATED TO A FINDING.

SO THE ISSUES AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE TIED TOGETHER.

IT REALLY WAS A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS IN THE SENSE THAT EVERY SINGLE WORKGROUP RECOMMENDATION THAT ENDED UP IN THIS REPORT WAS WAS A CONSENSUS BASED PROCESS.

SO WHEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH AND DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE WAS A WORKGROUP VOTE THAT YOU EITHER LOVED IT, YOU COULD LIVE WITH IT, OR I CAN'T LIVE WITH IT.

AND ANYTHING THAT RECEIVES IT CAN'T LIVE WITH IT.

WE WENT BACK AND AS A GROUP WENT THROUGH THAT, AND IF WE COULDN'T GET TO CONSENSUS, THAT DID NOT MAKE IT OUT OF THE WORKGROUP.

ONCE THAT WORKGROUP CAME THROUGH WITH A FINAL SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS, IT WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE COMMISSION, AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, THAT ENTIRE COMMISSION GOT TO VOTE.

SO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE 148 RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS REPORT WAS SUBMITTED AND OR APPROVED BY EVERY SINGLE COMMISSION MEMBER.

SO VERY STRONG CONSENSUS THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED AS WELL.

THERE WAS OVER 500 SUBMISSIONS.

THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSION MEMBERS RECEIVED THEMES AND COMMON MESSAGES FROM THE STAFFERS OF THE COMMISSION.

WE OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK IN THIS FINAL REPORT THAT CAME FROM OUTSIDE GROUPS CONTRIBUTING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND OTHER SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY APPOINTED TO THE COMMISSION AS A VOTING MEMBER, BUT WERE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE THEIR EXPERTISE THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO 148 CONSENSUS BASED RECOMMENDATIONS, 340 PAGES.

I'LL BE HONEST, IT'S ABOUT 200 PAGES THAT ARE REALLY THE LINE BY LINE NARRATIVE FOR EACH RECOMMENDATION.

SO AGAIN, IT IS OVERWHELMING.

THE FIRST NIGHT THAT WE HAD THE FINAL DRAFT AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW, IT TOOK ME ABOUT 3.5 HOURS TO GET THROUGH IT.

SO IT'S DOABLE.

THE THEMES THAT I REALLY WANT TO GO THROUGH AND KIND OF THE ORGANIZATION HERE.

THE REPORT ITSELF READS AS IF YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH A TIMELINE OF BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER.

SO CHAPTER ONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH, CHAPTER SEVEN REALLY THINKS ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO BEFORE A FIRE, WHAT WE DO DURING A FIRE, AND HOW OUR COMMUNITIES ARE DEALING WITH THINGS AFTER A FIRE.

SO REALLY THAT WORKGROUP FRAMEWORK IS TRANSLATED INTO THIS CYCLE OF FIRE, AND THEN THE THEMES.

FORTUNATELY, IN FLAGSTAFF, I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THESE THEMES ARE KIND OF JUST ACCUSTOMED TO US.

THIS IS A WAY OF LIFE FOR US.

COLLABORATION. INVESTING IN RESILIENCE REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT COME UP QUITE A BIT, NEVER MIND THROUGH THIS REPORT, BUT ONE DEFINITION I REALLY WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ON HERE ENABLING BENEFICIAL FIRE.

SO THAT IS A THEME THROUGHOUT THIS REPORT, AND IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF FIRE, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING A LOT OF THESE SOLUTIONS THAT INVOLVE FIRE, AND SO BENEFICIAL FIRE CAN PREVENT CATASTROPHIC FIRE, AND OUR TERM BENEFICIAL FIRE INCLUDES WILDFIRES THAT ARE DOING SOME SORT OF POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE LANDSCAPE.

SO A BENEFICIAL WILDFIRE PRESCRIBED BURNING AND INDIGENOUS CULTURAL BURNING PRACTICES AS WELL, AND ONE OF THE SELECTED RECOMMENDATIONS I WANTED TO START WITH HERE WAS RECOGNIZING TRIBAL CULTURAL BURNING PRACTICES THROUGHOUT THIS REPORT.

THIS IS ONE OF THE NARRATIVES THAT I'M MOST PROUD OF, WHERE WE'RE NOT SAYING INDIGENOUS CULTURAL BURNING IS GOING TO SOLVE THE WILDFIRE CRISIS THAT'S BEEN CREATED OVER THE LAST 150 YEARS, BUT IT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF FIXING OUR RELATIONSHIP AS A COUNTRY.

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IT WAS CRIMINALIZED, IT WAS EXCLUDED FROM THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND RESTORING THIS, THIS PRACTICE IS GOING TO BE A REALLY VITAL PART OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, NOT BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO SOLVE A MILLION ACRES, BUT EVEN IF IT'S A SMALL ACREAGE, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE THIS HISTORY AND HOW WE ENGAGE THIS PRACTICE MOVING FORWARD.

SUPPORTING COLLABORATIONS AGAINST SOLUTIONS.

THIS ISN'T A FEDERAL PROBLEM.

THIS IS A NATIONAL PROBLEM, AND FEDERAL AGENCIES ALONE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SOLVE THIS.

JUST LIKE WE SEE WITH F-W-P AND FORFREE, FEDERAL AGENCIES ALONE ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE PROBLEM SOLVERS IN THE ROOM.

WE'VE GOT TO WORK TOGETHER AS COMMUNITIES AT EVERY LEVEL OF SOCIETY.

REACTIVE TO PROACTIVE.

WE'VE GOT TO GET IN FRONT OF THIS EVERY TIME WE'RE SPENDING MONEY RESPONDING TO CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES.

IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE.

IT'S DILUTING OUR CAPACITY AS A MUNICIPALITY.

IT'S HURTING US WHEN WE'RE RESPONDING TO THESE INCIDENTS RATHER THAN PREVENTING THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

SO THROUGH SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN PROACTIVE PLANNING, WE KNOW WE CAN REDUCE THESE RISKS AND THESE COSTS AFTERWARDS.

AND AGAIN INVESTING IN RESILIENCE.

THE WILDFIRE CRISIS NEEDS TO BE FUNDED, STAFFED AND ACTED UPON LIKE THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY THAT IT IS TO DO LESS IS TO RESIGN OURSELVES TO TREMENDOUS COSTS AND LOSSES.

THIS IS, AGAIN, IN THIS REPORT, A NARRATIVE THAT GOES THROUGH HERE OVER AND OVER.

A LOT OF THESE SOLUTIONS.

WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT THIS NARRATIVE PUTS THOSE SOLUTIONS INTO ACTION.

IF WE IF WE CAN ACTUALLY GET TOGETHER AND IMPLEMENT THESE THINGS.

AND AGAIN ENABLING BENEFICIAL FIRE, THE PRESCRIBED BURNING NEEDS TO SCALE UP, CULTURAL BURNING NEEDS TO BE REINTEGRATED INTO OUR LANDSCAPES, AND WILDFIRE MANAGED FOR RESOURCE OBJECTIVES NEEDS TO CONTINUE.

LUCKILY, HERE IN REGION THREE, ARIZONA AND NEW MEXICO, WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT DOING BENEFICIAL WILDFIRES.

I JUST SPENT A WEEK ON THE STILL FIRE OVER BY THE BLUE RIDGE RANGER STATION, AND THAT WAS A NATURAL IGNITION THAT WAS STARTED BY LIGHTNING.

THAT MANAGEMENT EFFORTS STARTED TO TURN THAT INTO A MUCH LARGER FOOTPRINT, AND IT BECAME OVER 10,000 ACRES OF BENEFICIAL FIRE ON THE LANDSCAPE, AND SO REALLY USING ALL THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX TO IMPLEMENT THESE SOLUTIONS IS, IS GOING TO BE NEEDED, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU GUYS QUICKLY.

THIS IS WHAT BENEFICIAL FIRE LOOKS LIKE IN A PONDEROSA PINE ECOSYSTEM.

THIS WAS THE STILL FIRE OVER OVER BY THE BLUE RIDGE RANGER STATION.

SO AGAIN, THE FIRE IS STAYING ON THE GROUND.

IT'S CONSUMING NEEDLES AND GRASSES AND SMALL SHRUBS, SMALL TREES.

IN SOME PLACES. IT MAY ACTUALLY CLIMB UP THE TREES A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S NOT RUNNING FROM TREE TO TREE.

IT'S JUST STAYING ON THE GROUND, AND YOU CAN SEE A FEW OF THE PEOPLE WITH DRIFT TORCHES OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, PUTTING THAT FIRE DOWN, AND SO THIS IS THIS IS BENEFICIAL FIRE RIGHT HERE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR LANDSCAPE IS LOOKING FOR.

SO WHEN WE'RE ENABLING BENEFICIAL FIRE, THIS TRANSLATES INTO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THEMES HERE WORKFORCE APPROPRIATIONS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOPICS, BUT A COUPLE OF THE ONES I WANTED TO PULL OUT HERE FOR FOR RECOGNITION.

RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 14, CONGRESS SHOULD INSTRUCT THE AGENCIES TO DEVELOP THE NECESSARY ADMINISTRATIVE SYSTEMS TO ALLOW RESOURCE ORDERING FOR PRESCRIBED FIRE TO BE AS SEAMLESS AS IT IS FOR WILDFIRE RESPONSE.

WE HAVE A WILDFIRE THAT POPS OFF IN FLAGSTAFF.

WE MOBILIZE PEOPLE FROM POTENTIALLY ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

WE DON'T REALLY DO THAT SO WELL FOR PRESCRIBED FIRE.

SO OUR WORKFORCE PRIORITIES AND OUR POLICIES ARE REALLY GEARED TOWARD RESPONDING.

HOW DO WE TRANSITION THAT FROM REACTIVE TO PROACTIVE.

SO WE HAVE THESE MECHANISMS IN PLACE THAT ALLOW RESOURCES TO MOBILIZE.

WE JUST NEED TO GET BETTER AT USING THEM FOR PRESCRIBED FIRE IN THE WAY THAT WE DO FOR WILDFIRE.

SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC HAPPENS.

WE CAN HAVE 1000 PEOPLE HERE WITHIN 48 HOURS.

WE CAN FEED THEM. WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THEIR EQUIPMENT AND JUST PROVIDE ALL KINDS OF RESOURCES WE NEED TO TAKE.

WHILE THOSE POLICIES AND USE THEM FOR PRESCRIBED FIRE TO SCALE UP OUR ABILITIES, AND THIS WAS ANOTHER BIG WIN HERE.

NUMBER 41, THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEALTH SECTOR, WE RECOGNIZE THAT BENEFICIAL FIRE MEANS SMOKE IN THE AIR THAT IMPACTS OUR COMMUNITIES.

WE'VE GOT TO GET BETTER AT MITIGATING SMOKE IMPACTS TO OUR COMMUNITIES, EVEN WITH BENEFICIAL FIRE, AND SO WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE IS, IS A VERY LONG SENTENCE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO MINIMIZE SMOKE IMPACTS TO OUR COMMUNITIES, BUT THE VICTORY HERE WAS THAT FIRST LINE WHILE ENABLING PROACTIVE USE OF BENEFICIAL FIRE.

SO WE'RE NOT SAYING WE CAN'T DO THE FIRE AND PUMP THE BRAKES ON.

WHAT WE KNOW IS THE NUMBER ONE SOLUTION TO PREVENT CATASTROPHIC FIRE, WE NEED TO PUMP THE GAS PEDAL ON BENEFICIAL FIRE, AND WE NEED TO BE DOING A BETTER, BETTER JOB IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S PROVIDING HEPA FILTERS, WHETHER IT'S PROVIDING CLEAN AIR HUBS, WHETHER IT'S GETTING BETTER AT BEING ABLE TO PREDICT HOW SMOKE WILL MOVE ACROSS OUR LANDSCAPE THROUGH THESE BURNS, REALLY LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE SOLUTIONS HAS TO BE ON THE TABLE FOR US, AND THEN CHANGING THE SYSTEM OF LAND MANAGEMENT AGENCY PERFORMANCE METRICS.

NUMBER 147.

THE WAY WE OFTEN DO THINGS ON ON LAND MANAGEMENT IS WE HAVE A TARGET, WE HAVE AN ACREAGE GOAL.

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AND SO WE NEED TO BETTER RECOGNIZE AND REWARD THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, WHETHER IT'S THE FOREST SERVICE OR THE CITY OR WHOEVER IT IS THAT ARE DOING THE HARDER, SMALLER SCALE JOBS THAT MAY HAVE A HIGHER RETURN ON INVESTMENT THAN JUST CREATING TARGETS THAT DRIVE PEOPLE TO GO DO THE BIG, EASY THINGS WE NEED TO DO BOTH.

WE NEED TO DO THE BIG EASY.

WE NEED TO DO THE SMALL AND DIFFICULT.

WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OF DOING BOTH, AND SO WORKFORCE WAS OBVIOUSLY A TOPIC IN THE COMMISSION THAT REALLY COMES INTO EVERYTHING.

A COMPREHENSIVE, EXPANDED AND SUSTAINABLE WORKFORCE IS A CORNERSTONE OF OUR ABILITY.

WE CAN'T DO ALL THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN HERE, WHETHER IT'S WORKING WITH MORE PEOPLE TO DO FIREWISE ASSESSMENTS OF THEIR PROPERTY, MITIGATE SMOKE IMPACTS, IMPLEMENT BENEFICIAL FIRE. WE CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT THE RIGHT WORKFORCE, WITH THE RIGHT SKILLS.

SO ONE OF THE BIG SELECTED RECOMMENDATIONS HERE, AND THIS IS KIND OF CONNECTING BACK TO OUR AMERICA BURNING REPORT FROM 50 YEARS AGO.

THAT REPORT CREATED THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION.

NOW WE NEED TO TAKE THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION AND GET THEM INTO THE WILDLAND WORLD.

SO THIS RECOMMENDATION IMPROVED TRAINING AND COORDINATION BETWEEN STRUCTURE, FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT.

CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS BEEN LEADING THIS FOR OVER 20 YEARS, AND WHEN WE'RE IN THE ROOM TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS, TELLING THEM WHERE WE ARE AT, THE INVESTMENTS THE CITY HAS MADE, WE NEED MORE AREAS TO GET TO THIS PLACE, AND THEY NEED TO DO IT FASTER THAN IT TOOK US TO GET WHERE WE ARE NOW.

SO REALLY THINKING ABOUT THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION AS THAT FEDERAL ROLE THAT SUPPORTS MUNICIPAL STRUCTURE AND EMS DEPARTMENTS, THEY NEED TO GET INTO THE WILDLAND REALM.

SO IT'S NOT JUST AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT ANYMORE THAT THEY'RE SKILLED IN.

WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THEM INTO THIS WILDLAND SPACE.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG RECOMMENDATION.

IF YOU GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIST MY TOP TEN, THIS WOULD DEFINITELY BE IN THE TOP TEN, AND ONE OF THE REASONS REALLY IS WE STARTED TO LOOK MORE AT WORKFORCE.

SO THESE NUMBERS ARE OBVIOUSLY ESTIMATES, BUT FEDERAL AGENCIES FEEL APPROXIMATELY 19,000 DEDICATED WORKFORCE OF FIREFIGHTERS, APPROXIMATELY 24,000 PRIVATE CONTRACTORS.

SO THERE'S ALREADY MORE PRIVATE SECTOR CONTRACTORS OUT THERE THAN THERE ARE FOREST SERVICE OR OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES, BUT THE BIG NUMBER HERE, LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS REGISTERED WITH FEMA FIELD AN ESTIMATED 1.2 MILLION PEOPLE.

SO THOSE ARE OUR CAREER, LIKE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF VOLUNTEER OR SOME PLACES WHERE THEY DO WHAT'S CALLED A PAID PER CALL.

SO WE'VE GOT 1.2 MILLION PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE TASKED WITH RESPONDING TO HAZARDS IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

63% OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS REGISTERED WITH FEMA ARE DOCUMENTED AS HAVING TO RESPOND TO WILDFIRES.

SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE THAN HALF OF THE 1.2 MILLION PERSON WORKFORCE, THEY DON'T HAVE A FEDERAL AGENCY THAT'S DIRECTLY TASKED WITH SUPPORTING THEM IN WILDLAND FIRE RESPONSE AND PRESCRIBED FIRE IMPLEMENTATION.

SO THAT'S THE ROLE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE WITH THE US FIRE ADMINISTRATION IS TO SCALE UP THEIR IMPACT, THEIR ABILITY TO IMPACT THAT 1.2 MILLION PERSON WORKFORCE, AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME MORE LANGUAGE IN HERE, JUST ABOUT MORE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES.

WE NEED MORE SKILLS. WE CAN'T JUST HAVE PEOPLE SKILLED IN PUTTING OUT FIRES.

WE NEED MORE PEOPLE SKILLED IN LIGHTING FIRES.

WE NEED THEM WORKING TOGETHER.

WE HAVE A LARGE PEOPLE OR LARGE GROUP OF THE WORKFORCE WHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT JUST DO ONE OF THOSE TWO THINGS.

WE NEED TO INTEGRATE THIS.

WE CAN'T JUST HAVE A SUPPRESSION WORKFORCE AND A PRESCRIBED FIRE WORKFORCE.

WE'VE GOT TO GET ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM TOGETHER AND REALLY GO AFTER THESE, THESE CHALLENGES TOGETHER.

SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE WORKFORCE RELATED RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I DON'T WANT TO SAY WE WERE PASSING THE BUCK OR PUNTING THE PROCESS, BUT I MEAN, OVER THIS YEAR, WE HAD A WORKGROUP THAT HAD 15, TWO HOUR LONG MEETINGS.

30 HOURS ISN'T LONG ENOUGH FOR A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE TO SOLVE ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS WITH WORKFORCE.

SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS IN HERE THAT WILL CONTINUE THE PROCESS.

OUR AUDIENCE, BY STATUTE, WAS CONGRESS.

THESE TASK FORCE, THOUGH, WILL HELP US GO AFTER SOME SOME STATE AND LOCAL CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO AS WELL.

BUT REALLY KEY TAKEAWAYS.

WE'VE GOT SHORT TERM. WE'VE GOT LONG TERM.

WE'VE GOT ACTIONABLE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TOMORROW.

IT JUST TAKES SOMEBODY TO TAKE A CHANCE AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS.

WE'VE ALSO GOT POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER OF A LIST, AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME TRANSFORMATIONAL THINGS IN HERE THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO TAKE DECADES TO WORK THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS, BUT THERE IS NO SINGLE SOLUTION.

ALL OF THE 148 RECOMMENDATIONS TAKEN TOGETHER, THOUGH, ARE GOING TO MAKE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGE ACROSS OUR WILDFIRE RELATIONSHIPS.

SO NEXT STEPS NEXT WEEK WE'RE GOING TO DC AS COMMISSION MEMBERS, AND WE HAVE MEETINGS ALREADY SET UP WITH SOME COMMITTEES.

WE'VE ALREADY SEEN A FEW ELECTED OFFICIALS PUT OUT PRESS RELEASES RECOGNIZING THE REPORT IS OUT THERE, BUT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME.

WE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF KIND OF THE OUTRAGE OR THE OUTREACH WE'RE DOING, LIKE A ROAD SHOW IT'S I'M NOT ASKING PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY TO TELL ME, HOW ARE THINGS CHANGING? BECAUSE WE JUST PUBLISHED THIS A MONTH AGO.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.

WE NEED PEOPLE TO TAKE SOME TIME TO READ IT AND ABSORB IT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT HOW THESE RECOMMENDATIONS CAN BE TRANSITIONED FROM A NARRATIVE INTO ACTION, AND SO I DON'T EXPECT SOME OF THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

BUT SOME OF THIS STUFF I THINK IS IS POSITIONED TO BE ABLE TO HAPPEN RATHER QUICKLY.

SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS OUR FEDERAL TARGET, BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES HERE TO START IMPLEMENTING THIS STUFF LOCALLY.

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THERE'S A LOT IN THERE.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. NEIL.

QUESTIONS. VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU, NEIL, SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

OBVIOUSLY BY DEFINITION THERE'S TERMS. LIKE BENEFICIAL AND CATASTROPHIC YOU CAN HAVE CATASTROPHIC FIRE.

YOU CAN HAVE BENEFICIAL FIRE.

THESE ARE. I'M DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSITE I WANTED YOU TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THOSE TWO IN TERMS OF CARBON OUTPUT AND. I'LL JUST LEAVE IT OPEN ENDED.

YOU CAN ANSWER THAT ANY WAY.

I MIGHT HAVE SOME FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT JUST ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT SIDE OF THINGS? YEAH. FIRST OF ALL, I'LL GO TO THE IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH HERE ON PAGE FIVE DEFINING THE CRISIS.

THE NATION FINDS ITSELF IN A PARADOX IN WHICH FIRE.

FIRE IS BOTH CENTRAL TO THE CRISIS AND ONE ESSENTIAL PART OF THE SOLUTION.

SO IT'S COMPLEX.

HIGH SEVERITY FIRE IN SOME ECOSYSTEMS IS A NATURAL PART OF THAT LANDSCAPE.

IT'S REALLY INCONVENIENT IF THERE'S A TOWN RIGHT BELOW IT AND RAIN FALLS ON THAT, AND SO THAT CATASTROPHIC FIRE MAY NOT BE AS CATASTROPHIC FOR THAT LANDSCAPE, BUT IT'S REALLY CATASTROPHIC TO THE COMMUNITY BELOW.

SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK A LOT OF THESE DEFINITIONS OF WHAT'S BENEFICIAL OR WHAT'S CATASTROPHIC COMES TO US AS A COMMUNITY TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS AND WHAT COULD BE A NATURAL, HIGH SEVERITY FIRE IN A PATCH OF THE PEAKS THAT WE'VE BUILT, FLOOD MITIGATION MEASURES INTO PLACE.

AND THEN IT HAPPENS AND IT DOESN'T DESTROY OUR COMMUNITY'S WELL-BEING.

WELL, THEN WE'VE GOT, TO SOME DEGREE, A HIGH SEVERITY, NATURALLY OCCURRING FIRE IN A PREPARED COMMUNITY ENVIRONMENT THAT IS NOT AS DESTRUCTIVE TO US AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO MOBILIZE THIS THIS BIG POST FIRE MECHANISM OF FUNDING AND STAFF TIME AND COMMUNITY IMPACTS.

SO FIRE IS LOCAL AND EVERY LITTLE FIRE THAT BURNS HAS A DIFFERENT IMPACT.

WE COULD HAVE 20,000 ACRES OF THE PIPELINE FIRE OR 2000 ACRES OF THE MUSEUM FIRE HAVE SIMILAR IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY.

SO IT'S INCREDIBLY VARIABLE CARBON WISE.

AGAIN, WE NOW THAT MITIGATING MITIGATING CARBON LOSSES AND KEEPING THAT CARBON STORED IN BIG FIRE RESISTANT TREES IS THE BEST THING WE CAN DO FOR OUR FORESTS.

TO REDUCE OUR EMISSIONS, THE PONDEROSA PINE FORESTS EVOLVED TO STORE THAT CARBON IN THOSE TREES, NOT TO HAVE IT IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF LITTLE TREES.

WE'RE ALSO GETTING A LOT MORE SCIENCE THAT SHOWS THE BIGGER TREES.

EVEN AFTER ECOLOGICAL THINNING TAKES PLACE, THEY START GROWING EVEN FASTER AND ABSORBING MORE CARBON.

SO REALLY, AS WE AS WE HAVE IN THE LATEST UPDATE OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, AGAIN, ALL THESE THINGS ALIGN.

HAVING A HEALTHY, FIRE ADAPTED PONDEROSA PINE FOREST THAT KEEPS THAT CARBON IN THOSE IN THOSE TREES, EVEN THOUGH WE MAY BE PUTTING FIRE INTO THAT LANDSCAPE TO MAINTAIN THAT NATURAL, FIRE ADAPTED STRUCTURE AND PATTERN, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SMOKE IN THE AIR.

WE'RE STILL MAINTAINING THE MAJORITY OF THAT CARBON IN THAT NATURAL STRUCTURE AND PATTERN VERSUS RELEASING IT THROUGH THE PRESCRIBED BURNS.

THANK YOU. SO A SECOND, BUT RELATED QUESTION.

YOU MENTIONED THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND THE SYNERGIES BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

WE DO HAVE ON OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, LOOKING AT THE CITIZENS PETITION, ADDING NEW PRIORITIES TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

I JUST THINK THIS IS MAYBE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND OFFER US ANY THOUGHTS THAT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE ON THAT TOPIC.

I DON'T WANT, AGAIN, OPEN ENDED.

I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR.

I JUST THINK THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO SORT OF.

UH. LET US KNOW WHERE YOU THINK THOSE SYNERGIES ARE AND WHERE YOU THINK THE GAPS ARE, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OPINIONS ABOUT THE CITIZEN PETITION, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO SHARE THEM.

I KNOW WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH NICOLE AND JENNY AND THE WHOLE SUSTAINABILITY TEAM.

WE'RE ON THE PHONE WITH THEM AND IN MEETINGS ALL THE TIME GOING THROUGH THIS, AND I THINK WE PUT TOGETHER A GREAT PACKAGE, AND I THINK IF THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY OR IN THE CITY OR OTHER PLACES THAT HAVE IDEAS ON HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THAT, THEN I'M ALL FOR IT.

AND SO I'M COMPLETELY OPEN TO HEARING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN PACKAGE THE PRIORITIES AND THE NEEDS.

I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING, AGAIN, LIKE THIS REPORT.

IT'S GOT TO BE MORE THAN JUST WORDS ON PAPER.

IT'S GOT TO HELP US FIGURE OUT HOW WE TURN THIS INTO ACTION AND WHAT KIND OF DIFFERENCE THAT'S GOING TO HELP US MAKE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO AGAIN, IT'S THESE THESE THINGS CHANGE.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES WERE IN 2012 WHEN THE BOND PASSED VERSUS WHERE WE ARE NOW, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD EVOLUTION, AND YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO FACILITATE EVOLUTION OF AND EVOLVE OUR, OUR CHALLENGES AND OUR PROBLEM SOLVING STRATEGIES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

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SO LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. THANK YOU.

SO FIRST, I JUST WANT TO JUST EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS ACKNOWLEDGES THE TRIBAL CULTURAL BURNING PATTERNS.

I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

I MEAN, OUR NATIVE AMERICAN COMMUNITY HAS SUCH GREAT WISDOM ON TAKING CARE OF MOTHER EARTH AND OUR, OUR FORESTS, AND SO I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE PUT THAT INTO THIS PLAN.

IT REALLY MEANS A LOT AND I ALSO JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE HOW CRITICAL IT IS TO FOCUS ON FIRE MANAGEMENT AND MITIGATION.

I'VE READ NUMEROUS ARTICLES ABOUT CALIFORNIA, WHO IN A LOT OF WAYS IS ON THE FOREFRONT OF, UM, REDUCING THEIR CARBON EMISSIONS, AND THEN IT ALL GOES UP, NO PUN INTENDED.

OR MAYBE IT IS UP IN SMOKE WITH ALL THEIR FIRES AND THEIR SET BACK 20 YEARS IN THEIR EFFORTS.

SO THIS IS REALLY EXCITING.

WHEN I WAS IN WASHINGTON, DC WITH THE GROUP, WE WERE ACKNOWLEDGED FOR THE EFFORTS THAT FLAGSTAFF AND NEIGHBORING FIRE AGENCIES ARE ON THE FOREFRONT OF HOW TO MANAGE FOREST AND KEEP OUR CARBON EMISSIONS AT BAY AND TO MANAGE OUR FORESTS.

SO JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THIS IS AN EXCITING PRESENTATION, AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO APPLAUD YOU ON THE EFFORTS THAT THE GROUP AND THE TEAM DID.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH THE TRIBAL PART, I JUST I THINK I CAN SUM THAT UP.

WE HAD A WONDERFUL PARTNER FROM THE CULTURAL RESOURCE FIRE MANAGEMENT COUNCIL.

I THINK THEY'RE CALLED IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, MARGO ROBBINS, AND SHE SAID, IT'S NOT JUST OUR LANDSCAPE THAT'S FIRE ADAPTED, OUR CULTURE IS FIRE ADAPTED, AND THAT KIND OF OPENED A WHOLE NEW SPACE IN MY HEAD OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.

THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL. BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW.

YES, IF I MAY, JUST TO COMMENT.

WE'RE SO PROUD OF NEIL'S PARTICIPATION ON THIS.

I'M GOING TO CALL IT A HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

THE REFERENCE HE MADE EARLIER, AMERICA BURNING FOR PEOPLE OF MY GENERATION.

WHEN WE JOINED THE FIRE SERVICE, WE WERE BEGINNING TO IMPLEMENT THOSE MEASURES, AND BECAUSE OF THAT REPORT, FIREFIGHTER SAFETY IMPROVED, OUR INDUSTRY IMPROVED WITH RESPECT TO TECHNICAL AND LEADERSHIP TRAINING.

THE NATION'S FIRE CODES.

FIRE RESISTANT MATERIALS BEGAN TO BE REQUIRED BECAUSE THE FIRE DEATHS IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, IN URBAN CENTERS AND IN RURAL AREAS WAS UNACCEPTABLE, AND SO THAT REPORT WAS REALLY A LANDMARK, AND I'VE TRIED TO IMPRESS UPON NEAL THAT YOU'RE DOING THE NEXT VERSION OF AMERICA BURNING WITH THIS REPORT, AND SO WE'LL PROVIDE YOU THIS, AND I'M JUST ADDING A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE.

THIS IS HISTORIC BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE FIRE PROBLEM LOOKS LIKE NOW, AND THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT WORK THAT WENT INTO IT, AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PLANT FORGIVE ME FOR GEEKING OUT ON THE HISTORICAL ELEMENTS OF THIS FOR JUST A MOMENT, BUT IT IS SIGNIFICANT.

NEIL'S REPRESENTED THIS COMMUNITY EXCEPTIONALLY WELL IN HIS PARTICIPATION, AND SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS HISTORY IN THE MAKING. SO THANKS FOR INDULGING THAT.

THANK YOU, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU, CHIEF OR FOR YOU, NEAL, HOW MANY OF THE FLAGSTAFF FIRE DEPARTMENT FIREFIGHTERS ARE TRAINED FOR WILDLAND FIRE? DO THEY ALL TRAIN FOR WILDLAND FIRE? EVERY SINGLE ONE.

SO IF WE LOOK AT WHAT WE CALL THE GREATER FLAGSTAFF REGION.

SO WE'VE GOT SUMMIT, FLAGSTAFF, HIGHLANDS, PONDEROSA, PINEWOOD, EVERYBODY GOES THROUGH A MINIMAL WILDLAND FIREFIGHTER TRAINING.

SO IT'S WHAT WE WOULD CALL A TYPE TWO WILDLAND FIREFIGHTER COURSE, WHICH IS FAIRLY UNIQUE.

NOT EVERY AREA GOES THROUGH THAT SORT OF COMMITMENT, AND NOT ONLY DO WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS THE MINIMUM TRAINING WHEN WE LOOK ACROSS THE GREATER FLAGSTAFF REGION, THE NUMBER OF HIGHER QUALIFIED FOLKS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE PRACTICING WITH INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAMS, IT'S REALLY INCREDIBLE THE COMMITMENT THAT KIND OF FROM THE GROUND UP, OUR FOLKS IN THE GREATER FLAGSTAFF REGION HAVE MADE THROUGH THE FIRE SERVICE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

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OH. WAIT A MINUTE.

IS THIS FOR 11 BE.

YES. OKAY.

I'M GOING TO TAKE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT.

LAURA KESSLER.

HI, MY NAME IS LAURA AND YOU MAY REMEMBER ME.

I'VE BEEN FLOOD IMPACTED TWO DIFFERENT TIMES.

TWO DIFFERENT FIRES, TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

MEAD LANE AND SCHULTZ FIRE OUT IN TIMBERLINE 12, 13 YEARS AGO.

SO THIS IS A TOPIC THAT'S REALLY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY TO MY HEART AND MY LIFE, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO THE FIRE EXPERTS HERE IN TOWN, AND I'VE MET WITH NEIL, I THINK, ONCE, AND I'VE BEING A MEMBER OF FLAGSTAFF FIRST, I REALLY THROWN MYSELF INTO LEARNING ABOUT FOREST FIRES AND FOREST HEALTH, AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

IT'S SUCH A TOP PRIORITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY INSIDE TOWN AND OUTSIDE OF TOWN, BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE, AND BACK TO TOP PRIORITIES.

I THINK, NUMBER ONE, WE NEED TO PROTECT TOWN AND WE NEED TO RESTORE TOWN TO, I HOPE IN THE NEAR FUTURE WE CAN BEGIN TO RESTORE THE TOWN OF THE DAMAGES THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON OUTSIDE OF TOWN AND IN TOWN, BUT MY QUESTIONS ARE BOTH TO NEIL AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND NUMBER ONE, THIS KIND OF SCATTERED BECAUSE I JUST KIND OF CAME UP WITH THESE QUESTIONS WHILE LISTENING TO NEIL, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW CAN WE IMPROVE AND ACCELERATE FOREST THINNING, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS.

FROM MY DISCUSSIONS AND WITH WITH FIRE PERSONNEL, IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO THIN THE FOREST, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE, I FOUND OUT DECADES IT COULD TAKE UP TO 20 YEARS.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW CAN THE CITY HELP THEM ACCELERATE AND TO IMPROVE THE FOREST THINNING? AND THE MORE TREES THAT ARE OUT THERE, THE MORE WATER IS BEING SUCKED UP INTO TREES THAT WE REALLY DON'T WANT INTO THE FUEL, AND THAT MAKES THE, THE FOREST DRIER IN ITSELF.

TOO MANY TREES MAKE THE FOREST DRIER.

THAT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT THING THAT I HAD LEARNED.

NUMBER TWO, BIOMASS PLANTS CAN REALLY SPEED UP THE PROCESS OF THINNING AND MAKING OUR FORESTS SAFER AND OUR TOWNS SAFER. I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW CAN THE CITY SUPPORT BIOMASS PLANTS? THERE'S A SMALL ONE IN WILLIAMS, AND THERE'S ALSO A LARGER ONE IN SNOWFLAKE, BUT IT'S NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE TO TRUCK TREES HERE.

TELL ME IF I'M WRONG TOO.

SNOWFLAKE FOR FOR THE BIOMASS PROCESSING THERE.

ALSO, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW CAN THE CITY SIGNIFICANTLY SUPPORT THINNING IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS AND END THE FLOODING? PROTECT US FROM FLOODING, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW, HOW CAN YOU MAKE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF HIS RECOMMENDATIONS A TOP PRIORITY IN ORDER TO PROTECT US? AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, NEIL.

CHIEF, YOU WANT TO TAKE A STAB AT THESE QUESTIONS? UH, THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL QUESTIONS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE RUN INTO IS A LOT OF THE TIMBER INDUSTRY IN THE UTILIZATION OF THE MATERIAL IS ALL BASED ON PRIVATE SECTOR BUSINESS MODELS.

FIRE MANAGEMENT IS VERY OFTEN PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES, AND SO WE CAN MOBILIZE A LOT OF THE PUBLIC SECTOR FOLKS TO GO DO SOMETHING.

THE LESSONS WE'VE LEARNED ACROSS OUR LANDSCAPE HERE IN NORTHERN ARIZONA ABOUT PRIVATE SECTOR UTILIZATION MODELS ARE WE COULD WRITE A PRETTY GOOD BOOK ON THAT, AND IT'S CHALLENGING.

I THINK WE'VE SEEN EBBS AND FLOWS, WHICH IS KIND OF NATURAL WITH A LOT OF BUSINESS MODELS, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE SUCCESSFUL THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO OVERCOME IN THE LAST FEW YEARS HERE WAS THE FORTHRIGHT NEPA IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE F-W-P NEPA.

IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT PUBLIC PLANNING PROCESS COMPLETED, WE CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO OFFER ANYTHING TO PRIVATE SECTOR INDUSTRY.

SO IN ARIZONA, WE HAVE OVER A MILLION ACRES OF NEPA APPROVED ECOLOGICAL THINNING THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR.

SO WHAT WE'RE MOVING INTO NOW ARE SOME OF THE CONTRACTING CHALLENGES.

FOR A COUPLE TIMES, THE FOREST SERVICE HAS GONE THROUGH A PROCESS TO TRY TO AWARD A LARGE LONG TERM CONTRACT.

WE DID THAT ONCE, AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO CUT 300,000 ACRES OVER TEN YEARS.

THEY CUT ABOUT 30,000 ACRES OVER TEN YEARS.

SO WE'RE STRUGGLING TO FIGURE IT OUT WHERE WE USED TO THINK, OH, WE'LL JUST AWARD A GIANT CONTRACT AND THAT'LL COVER SOMEBODY'S FINANCIAL RISK.

THAT WASN'T ENOUGH, AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A LOT MORE NOW IS, IS WE STILL HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF LOCAL PLAYERS DOING SMALLER SCALE THINGS.

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WE WANT TO BE AT 40 TO 50,000.

SO WE'RE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR WHERE WE WANT TO BE AT THAT TARGET, BUT WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO WORK BACKWARDS, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REALITIES THAT WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH.

WITH SUCH A BIG WINNER FROM LAST YEAR, SOME INDUSTRIES REALLY HAD A TOUGH TIME KIND OF RECOVERING FROM BEING STUCK OUT OF THE WOODS FOR SO LONG.

THE BIOMASS PLANT IN SNOWFLAKE IS A HUGE, IMPORTANT PLAYER IN OUR WORK, AND THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO MAINTAIN A SUPPLY.

SO THIS TIME OF YEAR, INDUSTRY LOVES TO START DOING WHAT THEY CALL BUILD A WINTER DECK OR A WINTER SUPPLY.

SO IF THEY GET KICKED OUT OF THE WOODS BECAUSE OF SNOW PACK, THEY HAVE A BIG SUPPLY TO KEEP THAT MILL OR THAT FACILITY WORKING OVER THE WINTER.

SNOWFLAKE NOVO BIOPOWER BRAD WORSLEY WE JUST HAD ANOTHER MEETING WITH SOME FOLKS TODAY TO REVIEW SOME CHALLENGES.

HE'S GOT ABOUT A TWO DAY SUPPLY AT HIS YARD RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW HOW CAN WE OPTIMIZE MOVING SOME MATERIAL FROM KEY AREAS SO WE DON'T BURN THIS IN THE WOODS AND CREATE SMOKE IMPACTS TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT GET IT TO SNOWFLAKE WHERE THEY BURN IT MORE EFFICIENTLY AND WE ACTUALLY GET SOME BYPRODUCTS OUT OF IT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEED TO PAY TRUCK LOADS TO GET TO THEM.

WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF TRUCKERS, SO IT'S NOT JUST THROW MONEY AT A PROBLEM.

SOMETIMES IT'S A LOT MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.

SO LUCKILY WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SMART FOLKS.

WE'VE GOT FOLKS AT THE ECOLOGICAL RESTORATION INSTITUTE WORKING ON A LOT OF WORKFORCE TRAINING PROGRAMS. WE'VE GOT NGOS IN THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTING THIS WITH A LOT OF REALLY GOOD SCIENCE, BUT IT'S CHALLENGING WE THOUGHT WE WERE TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND SUDDENLY A BIG WINNER SLOWS US DOWN.

AND SO I DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO EVERYTHING OTHER THAN THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN WORKING HARDER AT THIS IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY THAN A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE FOR A LONG TIME, AND SO THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE THAT NEPA ON THE GROUND.

WE HAVE THESE ACRES AVAILABLE, WE HAVE FOREST SERVICE THAT HAVE DEMONSTRATED THE ABILITY TO AWARD ACRES, BUT WE STRUGGLE SOMETIMES TO HAVE REALLY GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT IS ON EACH ACRE THAT NEEDS TO GET REMOVED.

SO WE'VE GOT FOLKS WORKING ON THE BETTER SCIENCE OF OUR INVENTORY, OF WHAT WE'RE PULLING OUT OF THE WOODS AND BETTER MONITORING, BUT BUT WE NEED TO SCALE IT UP.

SO IT'S CHALLENGING FOR SURE.

I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, BUT WORKING WITH OUR INDUSTRY PARTNERS AND TRYING TO IDENTIFY THEIR NEEDS IS A BIG PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING ON A DAILY BASIS.

THANK YOU, AND CAN I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT? SO THE CITY HAS PRIORITIZED THIS.

WHAT MORE CAN WE BE DOING? WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL? FROM THE CITY COUNCIL CITY LEADERSHIP.

I KNOW I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT, AND WHAT DOES ADDITIONAL SUPPORT LOOK LIKE? DOES IT LOOK LIKE ANOTHER BOND LIKE THE CITY DID FOR FWPP OR WHAT'S IT LOOK LIKE? I CAN, LET ME TRY TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THOSE.

ONE IS THIS IS A VERY FEDERAL PROCESS.

WE WERE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN A FEDERAL PROCESS, AND SO THE GOOD NEWS IS WE WERE ABLE TO INFLUENCE THAT THROUGH NEIL'S PARTICIPATION AND A LOT OF REALLY SMART PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THAT.

I'M SUPER EXCITED, AND PART OF THE DISCUSSION YOU JUST DISCUSSED IS THERE'S A RECOGNITION NOW THAT THE NATION'S WILDLAND FIREFIGHTERS ARE YOUR FIREFIGHTERS, THE LOCAL FIREFIGHTERS, AND SO THE IDEA THAT WE MIGHT GET BETTER AT PROGRAMING, TRAINING AND OUTREACH TO GET TO THOSE FIREFIGHTERS THROUGH THE US FIRE ADMINISTRATION IS A BIG DEAL, AND WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

THE MEASURES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THIS PROGRAM THAT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE NEED WE NEED TO EXERT OUR INFLUENCE ON THE FEDERAL SYSTEM, AND BY THAT I MEAN YOUR INFLUENCE ON THE FEDERAL SYSTEM THROUGH OUR LOBBYING EFFORTS AND THROUGH OUR WORK WITH THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION, THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY.

THIS IS WELL THOUGHT OUT, AND WE SUPPORT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO THAT'S ONE RESPONSE IS MAKE SURE OUR FOLKS IN WASHINGTON KNOW THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US, AND WE'RE AGREEING WITH THE STRATEGY THAT'S BEEN PUT FORTH, AND HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE TO READ ALL 700 PAGES OF IT OR WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT YOU'LL COME AWAY WITH, YEAH, WE SHOULD GET BEHIND THIS.

WITH RESPECT TO THE PREVIOUS QUESTION AND THEN THE QUESTION ABOUT FUNDING SOURCES AND SO FORTH, I'LL JUST SAY THAT A COUPLE OF THINGS COME TO LIGHT IS THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE.

AND IT'S BECAUSE THE CITY ALREADY HAS BEEN VERY MUCH INVESTING IN ITS SAFETY.

IT'S JUST UNHEARD OF THAT A COMMUNITY WOULD SELL $10 MILLION IN BONDS TO DO WORK ON FEDERAL LANDS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.

THAT ALSO HAS BEEN LEVERAGED TWICE ITS VALUE SO FAR IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

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THIS WORK CAN'T CROSS A FINISH LINE IT'S A BIOLOGICAL PROCESS, AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO COMMIT TO THAT AS A CORE TENANT OF OUR ONGOING SUSTAINABILITY, AND THAT'S OUR SITUATION.

WE DON'T GET TO STOP.

THE GOOD NEWS IS LET NEIL SPEAK TO THIS, BUT A GREAT DEAL OF FUNDING CURRENTLY IS COMING TO OUR AREA AND IS BEING PROGRAMED TO CONTINUE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE WPA, AND I'LL LET THE SMART GUY TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

IT'S JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

EVEN IF, IF, LET'S SAY IT COSTS US $500 EXTRA TO SUBSIDIZE A TRUCK THAT HAS BEEN FILLED WITH WOOD CHIPS FROM A PROJECT RIGHT BY THE AIRPORT TO GET TO THE POWER PLANT OVER IN SNOWFLAKE.

OPERATIONALLY, WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW IF THERE'S TRUCKERS AVAILABLE TO DO THAT OR THE LOGGER WHO CAN MOBILIZE TO DO THAT.

SAID, I CAN RUN TWO TRUCKS A DAY.

WELL, OPERATIONALLY, YOU'VE GOT TO RUN THAT GRINDER TO LOAD THAT TRUCK WITH THAT MATERIAL, AND THEN THE GRINDER OPERATOR CAN'T JUST SIT THERE AND WAIT THREE HOURS FOR THE NEXT TRUCK TO COME.

SO A LOT OF OUR PROBLEMS AREN'T THINGS THAT CAN BE SOLVED JUST BY SAYING, WELL, WHAT DO YOU NEED FINANCIALLY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? SO A LOT OF THIS IS TRYING TO FIND EFFICIENCIES.

THERE'S A LOT OF LOBBYING THAT WE CAN DO.

WE NEED A VERY ROBUST COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST FIRE SHOP AND TIMBER SHOP.

SO ADVOCATING FOR THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AT THAT FEDERAL LEVEL AND DOING THAT LOBBYING WORK IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL.

THE WORK THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY HAVE BEEN DOING FOR DECADES ON THIS.

THIS IS WHY WE'RE IN A POSITION NOW WHERE WE'RE TO SOME DEGREE, THE NEPA AND FEDERAL FUNDING IS NOT ALWAYS OUR BOTTLENECK IN A LOT OF PLACES.

THAT IS THEIR BOTTLENECK, AND THEY HAVEN'T GOT THROUGH THAT YET.

SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN SAY WE NEED MORE DOLLARS TO PUT INTO PROJECTS, BECAUSE TO SOME DEGREE, BETWEEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, THE F-W-P BOND MONEY THAT THE FOREST SERVICE COMMITTED BEFORE ALL OF THAT, EVERY PRIORITY WE HAVE WITHIN F-W-P HAS A MONEY TRAIL THAT WE CAN WALK BACK AND POINT TO.

THAT'S ABOUT AS RELIABLE AS YOU CAN GET WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL BUDGETS THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ARE QUITE FLUID.

SO IT'S NOT THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE NEED A PROJECT THAT I CAN SHOW YOU THAT ISN'T FUNDED.

WE HAVE THOSE DOTTED LINES TO A FUNDING SOURCE.

IT'S JUST FIGURING OUT THAT NUT TO CRACK ABOUT HOW CAN WE GET THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO IMPLEMENT THESE THINNING PROJECTS MORE EFFECTIVELY, AND OTHER THAN, I MEAN, SOME VISION OF SAYING, WELL, WHAT IF THE FOREST SERVICE BUILT A SAWMILL? I MEAN, WELL. HOW ARE THEY THEN GOING TO COMPETE? WHAT IF OTHER SAWMILLS ARE NOW NOT BEING SUBSIDIZED? SO THAT'S THE DIFFICULTY OF REALLY BEING IN THIS PRIVATE SECTOR ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE REALLY ARE, AND WHAT'S BEEN MOST SUCCESSFUL FOR US IS HOW DO WE ENABLE THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND NOT COMPETE WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

THANK YOU, AND I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND IT'S STILL PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, AND WHEN WE WERE RECENTLY, WELL, I GUESS IT WAS.

QUITE A WHILE AGO IN DC THAT WE LOBBIED FOR THIS, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR WORK THAT WHEN WE MET WITH THE USDA THAT THEY WERE JUST GUSHING ABOUT THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OH. DO I KNOW? JUST ONE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'LL BE SURE TO AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU COPIES OF THE REPORT.

WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THEM PRINT THEM YET.

CAN I JUST ADD ONE THING, MAYOR? YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION WAS DIRECTED TO CITY COUNCIL, TOO, AND OBVIOUSLY, WE GET A LOT OF TIME UP HERE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS, AND WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THIS IN OUR NEXT DISCUSSION AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO PUT A FINER POINT ON MY BELIEF THAT OUR PREVIOUS COUNCIL, THIS COUNCIL, AND I WOULD HOPE THE NEXT COUNCIL IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT BIOMASS AND SUPPORTING BIOMASS AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOME OF THOSE OPERATIONAL GAPS AND THE OTHER HICCUPS THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING LONG TERM ON HOW TO DO THAT.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS AROUND SOME INNOVATIVE STRATEGIES AND IS WORKING HARD ON THIS TOPIC.

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WE HAVE SOME OTHER PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I DON'T WANT TO JUMP THE GUN ON RIGHT NOW BY TALKING ABOUT PUBLICLY, BUT LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING AROUND THE BIOMASS PROBLEM AND HOW TO SOLVE IT AND HOW TO SCALE THAT UP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

I KNOW THE MAYOR IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT BIOMASS AS WELL.

EVERYONE ON COUNCIL IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE ARE SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE, WE WILL PURSUE THOSE AGGRESSIVELY AND WE WILL ALL BE VERY EXCITED TO SEE SOME SOME NEW MOVEMENT IN THAT SPHERE.

WELL, THE LAST PLUG, THE GREATER FLAGSTAFF FORCE PARTNERSHIP OVER THE LAST YEAR HAS CREATED A SUBGROUP WITHIN THAT NONPROFIT THAT'S SPECIFICALLY TARGETING BIOMASS UTILIZATION OPTIONS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE MOVING DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM 12, A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.

REQUEST A CITIZEN'S PETITION TITLED, ADD NEW PRIORITIES TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

[A. Future Agenda Item Request (F.A.I.R.): A Citizens' Petition titled Add New Priorities to the Carbon Neutrality Plan STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Council direction. ]

SO, MR. PEARSON, PLEASE.

MAYOR. DAGGETT. VICE MAYOR.

ASLIN. COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION REQUESTING THAT WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT BE ADDED AS A TOP PRIORITY TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

I'LL SAY PARENTHETICALLY, NEAL'S PRESENTATION COULDN'T BE A BETTER SEGWAY FOR ME, AND IT WAS EXCELLENT AND COVERED A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE IN FAVOR OF.

OVER THE LAST DECADE, FLAGSTAFF HAS ENDURED FIVE MAJOR WILDFIRES, FOLLOWED BY DESTRUCTIVE FLOODING IN THE EAST, WEST AND CENTER OF THE CITY.

THE THREAT OF WILDFIRE AND FLOODING CANNOT REMAIN A FIXTURE IN FLAGSTAFF.

IT IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS THAT PERMANENT SOLUTIONS BE FOUND AND IMPLEMENTED.

OUR PETITION ADDRESSES WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT AS A SINGLE PRIORITY BECAUSE THESE EVENTS ARE NOT INDEPENDENT ISSUES BUT PART OF A COMPLEX, INTERACTIVE SYSTEM, TREATING THEM AS A SINGLE HIGH PRIORITY WILL PROMOTE INTERDEPARTMENTAL COOPERATION AND COORDINATION.

WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS TOP PRIORITY STATUS BECAUSE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING IS FLAGSTAFF MECHANISM FOR IMPLEMENTING PROGRAMS AND ALLOCATING RESOURCES.

THE FIRST STEP IN FINDING PERMANENT SOLUTIONS, ENDING THE SCOURGE OF WILDFIRE, FLOODING, AND DROUGHT IS MAKING THEM A TOP PRIORITY IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

LET ME BE CLEAR.

WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR SOMETHING NEW.

RATHER, WE ARE SEEKING HISTORIC PRIORITIES BE RESTORED AFTER CONDUCTING A COMPREHENSIVE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT IN 2018.

YOU APPROVED THE CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN.

THAT PLAN PLACED WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT FRONT AND CENTER AS THE GREATEST ENVIRONMENTAL THREAT TO THE PEOPLE OF FLAGSTAFF.

AS WE KNOW, THIS ASSESSMENT HAS PROVED TO BE TRAGICALLY TRUE.

FINALLY, ENDING THE THREAT OF WILDFIRE IS THE SINGLE MOST SIGNIFICANT ACTION FLAGSTAFF CAN TAKE TO REDUCE CO2 IN THE ATMOSPHERE.

A VIBRANT, THRIVING FOREST PULLS TONS OF CO2 OUT OF THE ATMOSPHERE, AND CONVERSELY, A WILDFIRE RELEASES MEGA TONS OF CO2 INTO THE ATMOSPHERE.

PREVENTING, DETECTING AND SUPPRESSING THESE CATASTROPHIC FIRES MUST BE ACHIEVED FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF ALL FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS THOSE LIVING IN THE GREATER FLAGSTAFF AREA.

I URGE YOU TO PLACE WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT ON THE AGENDA SO IT CAN BECOME A TOP PRIORITY PROGRAM IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? PLEASE. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE.

ALLOWED TO ENGAGE IN COMMENT OR QUESTIONS ON THIS, BUT I'M WONDERING IF JENNY IS STILL HERE.

AND JENNY WHILE YOU COME DOWN.

I'LL GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT.

THE QUESTION IS JUST.

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JENNY NYMAN, CLIMATE ACTION SECTION DIRECTOR.

I'M ACTUALLY ACTING FOR NICOLE TONIGHT, OUR SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION DIRECTOR.

SO YOU'VE GOT ME. SO THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

SO HEALTHY FOREST AND OPEN SPACES ARE A TARGET AREA OF OUR CURRENT CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

THEY WERE THAT WAS ALSO A TARGET AREA OF OUR 2018 CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN.

WHEN WE REVISE THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IN 2022, WE ESSENTIALLY COMBINED THOSE TWO PLANS TOGETHER.

THIS WAS ACTUALLY DONE DUE TO A LOT OF INTERNAL CONVERSATION, PARTICULARLY WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN FIRE OF THE NEED TO HAVE REALLY JUST ONE CLIMATE PLAN THAT TALKED ABOUT CARBON NEUTRALITY, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE RESILIENCE ASPECTS OF THE FIRST CLIMATE PLAN.

SO THAT WAS HEALTHY FORESTS AND OPEN SPACES, ECONOMIC VITALITY AND PROSPERITY, THINGS LIKE RECREATION AND HOW WE THINK ABOUT RECREATION. SO THAT 2022 CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN NOW HAS HEALTHY FORESTS AND OPEN SPACES AS ONE OF 15 TARGET AREAS.

THERE'S A LOT IN THAT CLIMATE PLAN, BUT IT IS ONE OF 15 TARGET AREAS.

WE ALSO HAVE A SECTION ON WATER SECURITY AS WELL, WHICH OBVIOUSLY HAS RELATIONSHIPS THERE AS WELL AS COMMUNITY RESILIENCE.

OF COURSE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR JENNY.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU HOW I UNDERSTAND THIS PETITION IS THAT THE CITIZENS ARE WANTING TO ELEVATE THE FOCUS OF THESE AREAS TO BE LISTED AS A TOP PRIORITY, INSTEAD OF JUST IN THE GENERAL BODY OF THE PLAN.

CAN YOU SPEAK ON THAT? WHAT IS THAT CHANGE AS FAR AS HOW WE FOCUS OUR EFFORTS ON OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS AND PRIORITIZING WHERE WE PUT OUR FOCUS? SURE. SO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, AS I JUST MENTIONED, IS LARGE.

IT COVERS A LOT OF THINGS, RIGHT? EVERYTHING FROM ELECTRIC MOBILITY TO THE HEALTH OF OUR FORESTS.

IT HAS THREE MAIN GOALS, THOUGH, AND SO THOSE GOALS, YOU ALL HAVE HEARD ME UP HERE, WE PUT THEM ON THE PAGE EVERY TIME, ARE REDUCING EMISSIONS, OUR COMMUNITY RESILIENCE AND BUILDING COMMUNITY EQUITY AND SO THAT MIGHT BE ONE WAY THAT COUNCIL CHOOSES TO FOCUS IT, BUT WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY THOSE THREE GOALS, AND THEN WE HAVE KIND OF FOUR MAIN ORGANIZING AREAS OF ACTION THAT THOSE 15 TARGET AREAS ARE UNDERNEATH.

THAT IS ESSENTIALLY OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, OUR COMMUNITIES.

SO HOUSING AND RECREATION AND RESILIENCE ARE UNDER THERE.

WE HAVE ENERGY SOURCES BECAUSE SO MUCH IN CLIMATE ACTION FALLS UNDER THAT.

WE HAVE CONSUMPTION AND THEN WE HAVE COMMITMENTS TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND SO THOSE MIGHT BE AREAS THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO LOOK AT.

THAT'S KIND OF OUR ORGANIZING FRAMEWORK IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

THE 15 TARGET AREAS ARE UNDER THAT, AND I CAN PULL THIS UP AS A SLIDE.

JUST GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

SORRY, I'M JUST GOING TO PULL UP THE WEBSITE BECAUSE I THINK IT PROBABLY BE BRAVE TO HAVE YOUR SEARCH HISTORY JUST OUT THERE.

NOT MY COMPUTER, BUT.

SO HERE ARE.

DOO DOO DOO. LET'S SEE THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT IT AS SORT OF THESE FOUR AREAS.

SO NEIGHBORHOODS, ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND COMMITMENTS.

THIS IS HOW WE HAVE SORT OF ORGANIZED THE PLAN.

DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

NOT REALLY, AND I'M AT A DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE I'M REMOTE AND DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO LOOKING IT UP MYSELF, BUT GUESS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS HOW I UNDERSTOOD THE PETITION TO BE IS AGAIN, WHEN WE HAVE TOP PRIORITIES IN OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, IT IDENTIFIES AND HIGHLIGHTS WHERE TO PRIORITIZE OUR INVESTMENT, AND YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM THESE CONSTITUENTS IS THAT THEY WANT THE FIRE, FIRE, FLOOD MITIGATION AND

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TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF FIRE AND FLOODING, AND TO PUT IT TO WHERE WE CAN PRIORITIZE OUR FUNDS APPROPRIATELY, AND SO, HOWEVER THAT NEEDS TO LAY OUT THERE AND HOW I UNDERSTAND THIS, THIS IS JUST A CONVERSATION TO BRING THIS FARE ITEM TO AN AGENDA ITEM.

AND SO MAYBE THAT'S A BETTER PLATFORM TO DISCUSS THIS MORE IN DETAIL.

I'M FOR ONE, AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS FARE ITEM MOVING FORWARD TO AN AGENDA ITEM, AND MAYBE THAT'S THE PROPER ENVIRONMENT TO THEN GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS ON HOW IT'S STRUCTURED.

ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL. ARE THERE ADDITIONAL COUNSEL MEMBERS WHO ARE COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS AND THEN VICE MAYOR? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I GUESS I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHO THIS QUESTION IS DIRECTED TO, BUT FLAGSTAFF FIRST OR JENNY? WHOEVER THINKS THEY CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION HAVE HAVE THE TWO GROUPS HAD A CONVERSATION? HAVE WE TALKED TO THE GROUP? THAT'S. BRINGING THE PETITION BECAUSE I KNOW YOU KNOW ABOUT IT.

SO HAVE THEY HAD A CONVERSATION? HAVE WE HAD A CONVERSATION? YES. THE SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION HAS MET WITH FLAGSTAFF FIRST MANY TIMES.

THEY WELCOMED US TO ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, AND WE'VE HAD MANY, MANY MULTIPLE, I SHOULD SAY, INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THAT GROUP, BUT FEEL FREE, TOM, OR ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK TO THAT AS YOU WISH AS WELL, I DON'T.

OKAY, SO SO THEN MY QUESTION GOES TO FLAGSTAFF FIRST.

SO IN THE MANY, MANY MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE HAD AND SOMEBODY CAN STOP ME IF THIS IS AN INAPPROPRIATE QUESTION.

SO THE MANY, MANY MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE HAD WITH SUSTAINABILITY.

WAS THERE ANY RESOLUTION? DID DID THEY SATISFY YOUR QUESTION OR YOUR CONCERNS REGARDING THE PLAN? SO I HAD TWO SPECIFIC MEETINGS WITH NICOLE ABOUT THIS IN ADDITION TO THE GROUP COMING TO OUR MEETING, WHICH I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN.

THAT WAS EXCELLENT, AND THEY DID A SUPER JOB AND WERE WELL RECEIVED BY OUR GROUP.

WE HAD AN EXCELLENT DIALOG, SO BUT IN THE MEETINGS I'VE HAD WITH NICOLE, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HER, BUT MY IMPRESSION OF OUR DISCUSSION WAS THAT SHE WAS FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF ALL OF THE POINTS THAT WE HAD TO MAKE, AND MY POINT WAS ABOUT RAISING THE LEVEL TO ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES SO THAT FOR THE BUDGETING PURPOSES AND FOR JUST RAISING THE LEVEL OF AWARENESS, IT WOULD BE AN EFFECTIVE MECHANISM TO DO THAT, AND SHE DID NOT OBJECT TO THAT. AGAIN, I HATE TO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HER, BUT WE SEEM TO BE IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT ABOUT THAT.

SHE COULD NOT, I BELIEVE SHE COULD NOT SAY I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT BECAUSE THAT'S UP TO YOU, BUT WE HAD A GOOD DIALOG.

I THINK THERE WAS A CONSENSUS THAT IT WOULD BE A USEFUL TOOL TO INCREASE THE ABILITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE GROUPS, THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND SO FORTH TO WORK TOGETHER ON ON THAT ISSUE.

OKAY. SO YOU DIDN'T FEEL AS THOUGH YOU HAD ANY PUSHBACK FROM SUSTAINABILITY ON ON THIS AND THAT WITHOUT RESERVATION.

WE HAD NO PUSHBACK, AND THEY SEEM TO BE IN AGREEMENT WITH YOUR CONCERNS OR..

RIGHT.. ADDRESSING THEM. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO. OKAY.

VICE MAYOR. YEAH.

I WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING YOU, MR. TOM PIERSON, AND YOUR GROUP, FOR BRINGING THIS CONVERSATION FORWARD, FOR GETTING ENGAGED IN THE PUBLIC.

I WANT TO THANK YOU, IN PARTICULAR FOR THE LENGTHY DIALOGS THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH AND FOR KEEPING IT SHORT THIS EVENING.

WE'VE WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM EACH OTHER FOR A WHILE NOW, AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FOLKS THAT ARE STILL IN THE ROOM WITH US.

I ASSUME MOST OF YOU ARE WITH FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY FIRST AND IT'S VERY GRACIOUS OF

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I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I THINK YOU COLLECTED SOMEWHERE ON THE ORDER OF 400 SIGNATURES IN ORDER TO GET THIS PETITION ON THE BALLOT.

I FIND THAT VERY IMPRESSIVE.

THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO.

I WOULD SAY, I THINK ASKING PEOPLE TO GET EXCITED ABOUT PROTECTING OUR FORESTS AND OUR COMMUNITY FROM DROUGHT AND FLOODING IS LOW HANGING FRUIT. I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THOSE ARE TOP PRIORITIES, AND WHEN WE FEEL THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING ADDRESSED, WE'RE GOING TO POUNCE ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THOSE IDEAS AND THOSE CONCERNS CHAMPIONED.

SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PUBLIC PART OF THAT WHOLE PROCESS.

LAST WEEK, I HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK PUBLICLY ABOUT PETITIONS, AND ONE OF THE WORDS I USED FOR A PETITION IS SACRED.

AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT I'M CATHOLIC.

SO I KIND OF CONSIDER THE WHOLE THING SACRAMENTAL AND A BIT OF A COVENANT BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND THE ELECTED LEADERS THAT ARE ELECTED TO REPRESENT IDEAS.

I'M GLAD THE PETITION PROCESS IS BUILT INTO OUR CHARTER AND TO OUR GUIDING DOCUMENTS.

I'M GLAD THAT THE PUBLIC HAS A ROUTE TO COME DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL TO ASK FOR ANY CONCERN TO BE ADDRESSED.

ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE TO WRESTLE WITH WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE THOSE THINGS FORWARD, AND THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS TO CONSIDER.

ONE OF THEM IS IS STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES, WHICH EQUATES TO TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

ANOTHER ONE IS JUST THE IDEA OF HOW MANY COOKS DO WE WANT IN A KITCHEN AT THE SAME TIME, AND THE CONTEXT AND HISTORY OF A PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN FORMED AND THOSE THINGS ALL COME INTO PLAY.

WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, I THINK I WILL GO AHEAD AND JUST BE FAIRLY TRANSPARENT ABOUT IT.

I'M A NO ON MOVING THIS FORWARD, AND WHILE I'M JUST ONE VOICE ON COUNCIL, I WOULD URGE THE REST OF COUNCIL TO CONSIDER TAPPING THE BRAKES ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, TOO, AND THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS.

THE PRIMARY REASON IS I DON'T THINK THAT THE PETITION PROCESS IS THE RIGHT VEHICLE FOR ADDRESSING THESE CONCERNS, AND I SEE THAT THIS OUR CITY STAFF AND OUR CITY APPARATUS IS DOING A GOOD JOB OF ENGAGING THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE COMING FORWARD WITH AND COMMUNICATING WITH YOU DIRECTLY AND FREQUENTLY.

AND I SEE THAT PROCESS CONTINUING INTO THE FUTURE, AND I SEE THESE VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS BEING ADDRESSED THROUGH MORE APPROPRIATE CHANNELS, ACTUALLY.

SO I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE FELT LIKE I'M DISMISSING THE IDEAS BEHIND HERE.

IT'S A PROCESS QUESTION FOR ME, AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE OTHER AVENUES FOR THAT PROCESS TO PLAY OUT.

I ALSO WORRY ABOUT JUST BEING A GOOD STEWARD OF THE PETITION PROCESS AND MANY OTHER ASPECTS OF OF GOVERNMENT AND MANAGEMENT AND HOW THOSE THINGS ARE HANDLED.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE PETITIONS BECOME THE DEFAULT WAY THAT CITIZENS TRY TO PLAY CITY MANAGER, AND MAYBE THAT'S A BIT OF A CRASS WAY OF PUTTING IT, BUT I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, FUNCTIONALLY THAT'S WHAT WE END UP WITH IS SOME PRESCRIPTIVE IDEAS AROUND HOW TO MANAGE SPECIFIC PARTS OF OUR GOVERNMENT, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT'S NECESSARY.

IT COULD ALWAYS BECOME NECESSARY IN CERTAIN CASES, AND SO THAT PROCESS REMAINS AN OPEN CONDUIT, BUT IN THIS CASE, I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID ALREADY THIS EVENING BY NEIL, BUT BY OTHERS UP HERE THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS BEEN LEADING ON THE WILDLAND FIRE REALM FOR OVER 20 YEARS, NOT JUST ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS, NOT JUST THINKING ABOUT IT, NOT JUST STRUGGLING WITH IT, BUT LEADING NATIONALLY ON HOW TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

WE HAVE BEEN ON THE FOREFRONT OF HOW TO TACKLE THESE THINGS IN THE MOST INNOVATIVE AND APPROPRIATE WAYS.

WITH THE LIMITED FUNDING THAT WE HAVE AND THE LEADERSHIP THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS SHOWING AROUND THE COUNTRY IS IS QUITE OBVIOUS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE MISSING THIS ELEMENT IN TERMS OF OUR CITY APPARATUS, THAT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY

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ON WHAT IS CLEARLY AND WHAT HAS CLEARLY BEEN FOR 20 YEARS, A VERY BIG PRIORITY FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND FOR THE RESIDENTS OF FLAGSTAFF. IT WAS MENTIONED BY OUR CHIEF THAT IT'S UNHEARD OF, THAT WE WOULD TAX OURSELVES TO MANAGE FEDERAL LAND IN THE ABSENCE OF THE FEDS COMING FORWARD THEMSELVES TO HELP US OUT.

THAT JUST POINTS TO THE CULTURE AND THE ATTITUDE THAT WE HAVE AS A COMMUNITY AROUND TACKLING WILDFIRE, AROUND FOREST HEALTH, AROUND FLOODING, DROUGHT AND ALL THOSE MITIGATION EFFORTS.

I THINK WE'RE THERE.

I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PRIORITIES THAT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS, AND SO IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE INJECTED INTO AN ASPECT OR A PROGRAM OR A A LONG TERM AND EVOLVING PLATFORM FOR HOW DO WE ADDRESS SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE ALSO NEED TO ADDRESS, REPLACING THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN WITH OR ADDING THIS EMPHASIS TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN FEELS REDUNDANT AND REPETITIVE TO ME.

AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I JUST I THINK THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE.

RISKING OPENING THE HOOD OF A VEHICLE AND TINKERING WITH SOME FINE TUNED THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON WHEN IT'S REALLY NOT NECESSARY OR.

IT'S REALLY NOT NECESSARY AT THIS TIME, AND AGAIN, I'LL JUST FINISH BY SORT OF GETTING REPETITIVE ABOUT THIS.

I THINK WE'RE ALREADY THERE.

I THINK THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS NOT ONLY PRIORITIZING WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT, BUT LEADING THE NATION IN HOW WE ADDRESS AND MANAGE THOSE THINGS, AND ONE OTHER THING I'LL ADD IS JUST I WORRY ABOUT THE UNFUNDED MANDATE COMPONENT OR ASPECT OF THIS.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT WE ALREADY NEED MASSIVE FEDERAL HELP WITH AND ARE LEFT ON, ON NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND THOSE RESOURCES AS WE ASK FOR THEM.

THE THINGS WE'RE DOING IN FLAGSTAFF TO REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT THROUGH OUR FACILITIES AND THROUGH OUR BEST PRACTICES, ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE A HANDLE ON IN TERMS OF OUR OWN PURSE STRINGS AND THESE LARGER ISSUES, WHICH WERE ALREADY AT THE FOREFRONT OF AND DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB OF SHOWING LEADERSHIP ON AND PRIORITIZING AS MUCH AS WE CAN, ARE ALREADY IN A SEPARATE LANE AND A MUCH, AND GIVEN MUCH MORE CONSIDERATION.

SO I I'M STARTING TO RAMBLE AT THIS POINT.

I MIGHT COME BACK AND SPEAK MORE IF I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH A LOST THOUGHT, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I URGE OUR COUNCIL TO LET THIS ONE GO AND LET THAT THERE BE THE FOLLOW UP THAT'S NECESSARY ORGANICALLY AND THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO ENGAGE THIS CONCERNED COMMUNITY GROUP ON THESE TOPICS, AND TO INCORPORATE AS AS MUCH AS WE CAN, AND AS MUCH AS OTHER GROUPS HAVE INCORPORATED COMPONENTS OF WHAT'S A PART OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN NOW AS IT EVOLVES FORWARD, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE PETITION PROCESS IS THE APPROPRIATE MECHANISM FOR THESE PRESCRIPTIVE SUGGESTIONS.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

WELL THANK YOU MAYOR.

I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT MR. ASLAN OR VICE MAYOR SAID ABOUT A LOT OF THIS.

WE'RE ALREADY DOING EXCETERA.

I THINK IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, I DON'T ANTICIPATE A COMPLETE CHANGE OF OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

I JUST SEE IT AS PROBABLY A MINOR TWEAK.

SO THAT SAID, I WILL SUPPORT MOVING THIS FORWARD FOR A BRIEF DISCUSSION TO SEE HOW WE CAN INTEGRATE THESE IMPORTANT THINGS INTO THE EXISTING PLAN, NOT TO CHANGE IT SIGNIFICANTLY, BUT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALREADY IN THERE AND COVERED.

A BRIEF DISCUSSION WILL BE ALL WE NEED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE THANK YOU MAYOR.

I'VE BEEN TORN ON THIS ONE FOR FOR A WHILE, ADMITTEDLY BECAUSE I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION IS AIMING FOR. I AM JUST NOT ENTIRELY SURE THAT IT'S NOT ALREADY PRESENT WITHIN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN

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JUST SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE REPRESENTATION OF OF HOW THE PRIORITIES ARE FOCUSED WITHIN THE PLAN.

NOW, FROM MY READING OF IT, AND I THINK I'M LOOKING AT THE UPDATED PLAN ON PAGE SEVEN WHERE IT HAS THE, THE, THE SAME PAGE THAT'S SHOWN THERE ACTUALLY IN TERMS OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS AND FOCUS AREAS.

HEALTH. HEALTHY FORESTS AND OPEN SPACES IS UNDER THE PRIORITY OF COMMITMENTS.

SO I FEEL AS THOUGH IT'S THERE.

I THINK WHAT THE PETITION IS ASKING FOR IS FOR IT TO BE ELEVATED, AND I THINK WHAT THE CONVERSATION THAT I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING MOVE FORWARD IS, IS NOT NECESSARILY AN ALIGNMENT WITH THE PETITION, BUT MORE IN LOOKING AT THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE PLAN THAT WE WERE JUST PRESENTED WITH IN TERMS OF FIRE ADAPTIVITY AND WILDLAND FIRE AND ALL OF THE WORK THAT MR. CHAPMAN DID ON THAT PLAN AND HOW THAT RELATES TO AND PARTNERS WITH THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AS IT'S PRESENTED NOW.

SO THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT I'M INTERESTED IN HAVING AND SEEING US MOVE FORWARD, BUT NOT NECESSARILY MOVING FORWARD.

THIS PETITION, AND I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE AND IS UNDERSTOOD BY THE GROUP THAT I SEE THE FOCUS THAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO THIS, BUT THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE US MOVE IN ON IT.

THANK YOU, AND I'M GOING TO ALLOW ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENTER, BUT BEFORE THAT I WANT TO ASK JENNY WHAT IS THE STRATEGY OR TIMELINE FOR KEEPING THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN FRESH AND ADDRESSING OUR CURRENT REALITIES? FOR INSTANCE, WELL, JUST.

I'LL ASK THAT QUESTION.

SURE, THANK YOU MAYOR DAGGETT.

SO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, WE HAD ENVISIONED THAT THIS WOULD BE AN EVOLVING PLAN.

WE TALK A LOT ABOUT IT IN THE APPROACH SECTION OF THE PLAN.

TECHNOLOGY AS WE TALKED ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLE.

RIGHT. THAT TECHNOLOGY SOURCING CHANGES MONTHLY.

RIGHT. OUR FORESTS ARE CHANGING THERE IS SO MUCH CHANGE IN THIS FIELD, WHETHER IT'S FROM A CURRENT CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND STANDPOINT, HOUSING, FOR INSTANCE, OR A TECHNOLOGY AND OPPORTUNITIES TO SOLVE PROBLEMS AND FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THAT REASON.

THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN ISN'T A PLAN THAT SAYS THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WILL DO EVERY SINGLE YEAR, RIGHT? IT REALLY, TRULY LAYS OUT THESE ARE THE 15 AREAS OR FOUR KIND OF BROAD AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON, AND THESE ARE OUR THREE GOALS.

RIGHT, AND SO IT IS NOT A PLAY BY PLAY SORT OF PLAYBOOK IN TERMS OF THAT, AND SO WE BUILT IN A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.

THAT SAID, WE DID OPEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO BE REVISED EVERY YEAR IF NEEDED.

THE REVISIONS WE DID LAST YEAR WERE TO SORT OF ADD IN THE ADAPTATION ELEMENTS OF THAT PLAN.

SO AGAIN, HEALTHY FORESTS AND OPEN SPACES, WATER SECURITY TO BRING THEM FORWARD, AND SO THAT'S ALL IN THE 2022 VERSION.

WE ALSO ADDED IN OUR HOUSING PLAN INTO THAT PLAN.

RIGHT, AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE ADDITIONAL ELEMENT BECAUSE THINGS ON THE GROUND HAD CHANGED.

OUR POLICY OUTLOOK HAD CHANGED BECAUSE WE HAD ADOPTED THE HOUSING PLAN.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY WITHIN IT RIGHT.

COUNCIL SETS OUR BUDGET AND SETS OUR PRIORITIES RIGHT, AND SO WE FOLLOW THAT AS WE ACHIEVE THE GOALS OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT OUR ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS, RIGHT, IS WHERE WE REALLY SEE HOW THINGS CHANGE, BECAUSE WE HEAR FROM YOU ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU.

RIGHT, AND SO I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST WAY THAT WE ADJUST OUR IMPLEMENTATION, BUT WE CAN CHANGE IT AS NEEDED.

SO WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS FOR ADDING ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT JUST MORE EXPLICITLY STATES THAT THESE ARE PRIORITIES? SO YOU KNOW THE QUESTION OF PRIORITIES IS ONE THAT I WOULD LOOK TO COUNCIL'S GUIDANCE.

WE DON'T RAISE ANY OF THESE ABOVE ANY OTHER ONES.

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WE DO NOT SAY THIS IS OUR PRIORITY OVER OTHER ONES.

AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR THREE GOALS, AND SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT KIND OF MIDDLE GROUND.

WE WOULD KIND OF NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT AND REVISE THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

I THINK LAST TIME IT TOOK MUCH LONGER BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WERE COMBINING OUR TWO PRIOR PLANS, BUT WE ARE NOT DOING AN ANNUAL REVISION THIS YEAR, AND SO WE WOULD LOOK FOR THAT TO BE A 2024 ANNUAL REVISION, IF THAT WAS COUNCIL'S GUIDANCE.

THANK YOU. OF COURSE.

ALL RIGHT. LAURA KESSLER.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME.

I REALLY DON'T LIKE SPEAKING.

I REALLY DON'T LIKE IT, BUT THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO ME THAT I MEAN, I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE DISMISSING SOMETHING THIS IMPORTANT AS THE PROTECTION OF OUR OF OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR PROPERTY TO A TECHNICALITY OF PROCESS.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST INSULTING TO A FLOOD IMPACTED VICTIM THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.

I IMPLORE ALL OF YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER THE PROTECTION OF US OF THESE THREE GOALS, WHICH GETS A LOT OF FUNDING.

PLEASE PUT PROTECTION IN ONE OF THE JUST ADD PROTECTION.

WE'RE NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY.

JUST ADD PROTECTION AND MAKE IT FOUR GOALS INSTEAD OF THREE, PLEASE.

THIS PROCESS, THE SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT HAS NOT BEEN EFFICIENT BECAUSE WE GOT FLOODED.

WE STILL HAVE SANDBAGS ALL OVER TOWN.

IT'S NOT EFFICIENT.

WE NEED MORE EFFICIENCY.

PLEASE. WITH PROTECTION.

YOU KNOW WHAT IF THIS HAD BEEN IN THERE ORIGINALLY, WOULD WE BE AS BAD OFF AS WE ARE NOW? MAYBE NOT. THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF NOW IF THIS HAD BEEN CONSIDERED IN THE ORIGINAL SUSTAINABILITY.

THIS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE THE WAY WE'RE LIVING RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S UNINTENDED UNFUNDED PROJECTS RIGHT NOW.

STILL, THE STORM DRAINS, AND I KNOW IT'S SLATED TO COME FINALLY, BUT THAT WAS TEN YEARS AGO.

IF THIS STUFF WERE A PRIORITY, THAT WOULD BE PROTECTION.

EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T SEE FIRES IN THE FUTURE, WE WERE STILL GETTING FLOODED.

MY NEIGHBORS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WE KNEW IT WAS A FLOOD PROBLEM, BUT THOSE PROJECTS WERE NOT FUNDED.

PRIORITIES. I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO ADD THIS TO THE TOP THREE GOALS, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME UNFORESEEN DISASTERS IN THE FUTURE THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT.

MAYBE WE NEED TO START FOCUSING ON IMMEDIATE PROTECTIONS.

RIGHT NOW, THIS IS ALL FOCUSING ON THINGS THAT DOES NOT IMMEDIATELY IMPACT OUR SAFETY.

I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE DISMISSED ON TECHNICALITIES.

SO PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.

I THINK IT'S SHORTSIGHTED NOT TO PUT US IN TO THE THREE OR I'LL SAY THE FOUR GOALS THAT WE ASK FOR, AND PLEASE FOCUS MORE ON THESE UNFUNDED PROJECTS AS WELL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU LAURA.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

YOU KNOW EVERY WEEK WE COME AND WE LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.

ONE ISSUE OVER ANOTHER, AND IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO TRY AND PRIORITIZE.

THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT, AND SO I THINK THAT ALL OF US UP HERE REALLY DO FEEL WHEN FOLKS ARE TALKING TO US, I THINK WE ARE ABLE TO PUT OURSELVES IN THOSE SPACES.

AT LEAST I KNOW I AM, AND MY COMPASSION FOR ANY OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE SUFFERING IN ANY WAY, WHATEVER THAT IS, I THINK WEIGHS HEAVY ON MY HEART, AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION, DID YOU GET ANY PUSHBACK FROM SUSTAINABILITY ON WHAT THEY WERE ASKING OR WHAT YOU WERE ASKING? AND THE AND THE ANSWER WAS NO.

AM I CORRECT? OKAY, AND SO THEY ARE AGREEING TO SOME EXTENT WITH WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING.

SO EXPLAIN TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT AFTER DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU SAY TO ME.

SO. SURE.

THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, AND FEEL FREE TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS.

THIS IS A POLICY DECISION BY COUNCIL, SO I AM WE ARE NOT WEIGHING IN ON IF THIS IS SHOULD BE THERE OR NOT.

AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE PRIORITIES IN THE CLIMATE PLAN, IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, BEYOND OUR THREE GOALS AND THESE 15 AREAS, AND SO THAT

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WE I LEARN A LOT EVERY TIME I KNOW NICOLE'S MET WITH TOM.

I'VE MET WITH MY FRIEND PHIL OVER THERE AND THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS AND WE HAVE LOVED HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

SO THEY ARE INCREDIBLY POSITIVE CONVERSATIONS, AND I THINK ALL SIDES LEARN A LOT.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT IS COUNCIL'S DECISION, AND SO I GUESS MAYBE I WASN'T MAKING MYSELF CLEAR, NOT ASKING YOU TO MAKE A DECISION FOR US.

WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT WHAT FLAGSTAFF FIRST IS TELLING YOU? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE IN THE PLAN, THE WAY IT LOOKS NOW? DO YOU SEE THAT IT'S REPRESENTED IN THERE? DO YOU FEEL THAT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS UNREALISTIC? AND I KNOW THAT'S PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT.

I PROFESSIONALLY I'M ASKING FOR YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION.

IS THAT REPRESENTED IN OUR PLAN? ARE THEIR CONCERNS ADDRESSED IN THAT PLAN? KEEPING THIS PLAN, WILL THAT ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS? SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU FOR.

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO TELL US WHAT TO DO.

SO OF COURSE. YEAH.

SO THE FOREST HEALTH FIRES, FLOODING AND DROUGHT ARE ADDRESSED AND DISCUSSED IN THIS PLAN.

THIS PLAN, HOWEVER, IS IN SOME WAYS ADDITIVE TO OUR WORK OVER MANY DECADES.

RIGHT ON FOREST HEALTH, ON FLOODING.

RIGHT. THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE DOES NOT WORK ON FLOOD MITIGATION AND PREVENTION.

RIGHT. THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN TRULY IS ONE LENS TO LOOK AT FLOODING AND FOREST AND DROUGHT, BUT THIS CITY, ALONG WITH OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THOSE ISSUES FAR BEFORE THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN CAME, AND SO WE TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS BECAUSE IT IS RELATED TO OUR WORK. IT IS RELATED TO THE CHANGING CLIMATE, BUT I CONSIDER MY JOB TO AMPLIFY AND SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUES IN FIRE AND IN WATER SERVICES.

RIGHT, AND THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN SUPPORTS THEIR WORK, BUT IT IS NOT THE TOTALITY OF THEIR WORK, OBVIOUSLY.

RIGHT. WE DON'T DISCUSS FLOODING RESPONSE PLANS.

RIGHT? WE DON'T DISCUSS KIND OF MEETING THOSE EMERGENCY NEEDS, BECAUSE THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN AND ARE HANDLED BY OTHER DIVISIONS WITHIN THE CITY.

IS THAT HELPFUL? YES, THAT'S HELPFUL, AND SO THEN IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE ARE STILL SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN, BECAUSE EVIDENTLY FLAGSTAFF FIRST ISN'T SEEING THEIR CONCERNS OR NEEDS MET IN THIS PLAN.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT.

SO THERE STILL NEEDS TO BE SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAD.

BECAUSE IF IT'S IF THE IF IT'S IN THIS IF IT'S IN OUR PLAN THEN SOMEHOW WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE NOT SEEING IT.

SURE. RIGHT.

SURE. SO THERE STILL NEEDS TO BE SOME CONVERSATION.

I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO REASON THIS OUT.

ABSOLUTELY, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF RESOURCES.

TRUST ME, YOU KNOW AS A SINGLE PARENT IN GRAD SCHOOL WITH A 15 MONTH OLD.

I KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO YOU DO I ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL A LOT, AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR RESOURCES ARE NOT FINITE, THAT THERE THERE ARE SOME LIMITS TO IT, AND I KNOW THAT YOUR TIME IS VALUABLE AND WE PAY FOR YOUR TIME.

ALL OF US PAY FOR IT, BUT I THINK THAT HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS AND MAYBE EVEN BRINGING IN THE PLAN THAT WE JUST. I'M A WILDLAND FIRE.

WILDLAND FIRE.

YES. MAYBE HAVING MAYBE THE THREE GROUPS MIGHT NEED TO MEET AND JUST KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHERE THAT MIGHT BE, BECAUSE I THINK THE MORE WE TALK TO EACH OTHER, THE MORE WE'RE GOING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND, AND SO YES, IT'S GOING TO COST YOU SOME TIME.

IT'S GOING TO COST US SOME MONEY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE COUNCIL IS GOING ON THIS, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR US TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT BROADER CONVERSATION IF NOTHING ELSE IS GOING TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS.

YES MA'AM, AND MINE TOO.

SO THANK YOU.

OF COURSE. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

THANK YOU. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S COMMENTS AND CONVERSATION TONIGHT.

THIS HAS BEEN A TOUGH ONE FOR ME AS WELL, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DO FEEL TORN.

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I UNDERSTAND.

I THINK WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, AND IT HOPEFULLY WOULDN'T BE A HUGE ADDITION TO THE CFP, BUT I THINK INCLUDING IT SOMEWHERE AND MAKING IT MORE UP FRONT AND CENTER MIGHT BE WORTH WORTHWHILE BECAUSE THIS REALLY IS A PRIORITY. SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND SUSTAINABILITY AND THAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING, BUT I THINK MAYBE BRINGING COUNCIL INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT AND SEEING WHERE WE CAN REFINE THE CNP AND GET THIS IN THERE, OR MAYBE WE DON'T AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT HAVING THE CONVERSATION.

SO I AM FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE THREE, AND COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE, I WASN'T SURE WHETHER YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT ADDING WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT TO THE CURRENT PRIORITIES LISTED IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN OR YOU WERE INTERESTED IN HAVING A GENERAL DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO BETTER REFLECT THESE PRIORITIES IN THE PLAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'M A LITTLE TORN ON EVEN HOW TO ANSWER THAT.

SO I, I THINK IF, IF WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS.

LET ME JUST STATE MY MY ANSWER WAS THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE CONVERSATION THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR IN THIS PETITION IS THE CONVERSATION THAT WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO HAVE.

I BELIEVE THAT WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT ARE HUGE PRIORITIES FOR US, BUT WITH THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLANS FOCUS ON SPECIFICALLY SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS, I THINK WE ULTIMATELY WIND UP LIMITING THAT CONVERSATION BY EMPHASIZING IT WITHIN THIS PLAN THAT IS FOCUSED ON THAT SUSTAINABILITY ASPECT AND NOT SPECIFICALLY ON THE WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT.

SO THAT'S WHY I AM I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE PETITION.

WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR WAS FURTHER CONVERSATION ON HOW TO FURTHER THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN FIRE AND THE CMP, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A BROADER PARTNERSHIP ACROSS THOSE TWO AREAS, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT MIGHT NOT BE A STRENGTHENED CONVERSATION BY EVEN HIGHLIGHTING IT MORE WITHIN THE CMP, AND I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE.

I BELIEVE WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY AND WHAT I'M HEARING, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS SAY IS, IS KIND OF THE SAME THING THAT THEY WANT TO SEE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS.

SO DO WE HAVE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WANT TO HAVE A MORE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION ABOUT ADDING THESE ITEMS TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AS PRIORITIES, I HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY AND COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

CAN WE PULL UP THE LANGUAGE ON THE PETITION? YES, AND ACTUALLY WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET AS WELL.

SO WE'VE GOT IT, AND WE CAN HAVE A BRING THIS FORWARD FOR A DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU. THANKS, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. JENNY.

OH, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

YEAH, I DO SUPPORT MOVING THIS FORWARD, BUT AS I SAID IN MY COMMENTS, I DON'T SEE THIS AS A MAJOR REVOLUTION OR A MAJOR REWRITE IN THE DOCUMENT.

I SEE IT AS JUST, HEY, LET'S REVIEW IT AND MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THIS COVERED.

BASICALLY, THE CLIMATE MITIGATION HAS GOT WELL, THE CARBON NEUTRALITY HAS GOT TWO PARTS.

REDUCING CARBON EMISSIONS AND THEN ADAPTING TO THE CLIMATE CHANGE THAT WE ARE SEEING, AND THIS COMES INTO THE SECOND PART OF THAT, AND SO IT'S I'M NOT ASKING FOR A MAJOR REWRITE.

I'M JUST ASKING FOR, OKAY, CAN WE INTEGRATE THIS.

SO I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT COMMENT OUT THERE SO STAFF DOESN'T PUT MORE TIME INTO THIS THAN IS NECESSARY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

JUST REAL QUICK, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THAT AS WELL.

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I THINK IT'S HOPEFULLY NOT GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

YES VICE MAYOR. SO I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN JUST BRING UP THE LANGUAGE OF THE PETITION, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON IS WHAT THE WHAT IS IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE PETITION, AND MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT THE PETITION IS VERY PRESCRIPTIVE ON REWRITING THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN TO INCLUDE WILDFIRE, FLOOD AND DROUGHT AS A MAJOR COMPONENT OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

WELL, THAT WOULD BE THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE WHEN THIS IS WHEN THIS IS BROUGHT FORWARD BY COUNCIL TO DISCUSS, IS WHETHER WE WANT TO HAVE THESE LISTED AS PRIORITIES IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

I'M HEARING THAT THERE'S MORE OF A CONSIDERATION OF HAVING ADDITIONAL, I ALMOST SAID, ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS.

HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT THESE PRIORITIES ARE REFLECTED CLEARLY WHERE NO ONE HAS TO GUESS, AND HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH FIRE SUSTAINABILITY, AND SO THIS WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL, AND COUNCIL WILL DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS SOME KIND OF DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GIVE, OR WHETHER WE JUST WANT TO HAVE A BROADER DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THESE PRIORITIES ARE REFLECTED.

OH, STERLING.

HEY, MAYOR. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM BOTH OF YOU, MAYOR AND THE VICE MAYOR.

WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS SIMPLY FOR THE COUNCIL TO DETERMINE IF THERE ARE THREE THAT WANT TO MOVE IT FORWARD, TO DISCUSS HOW IT'S WRITTEN IN THE PETITION. IF AT THE WORK SESSION, IT TURNS INTO SOMETHING ELSE IN A DIFFERENT REQUEST IS MADE OF THE CITY MANAGER THROUGH THE STREAMLINING OF FAIR PROCESSES AND SO ON.

IF IT TURNED INTO SOMETHING ELSE, YOU COULD DO THAT AT THAT POINT, BUT TONIGHT IT'S SIMPLY, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT'S IN THE PETITION HERE? AND ARE THERE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS WILLING TO MOVE THAT FORWARD? THANK YOU. STERLING.

OKAY. WE HAVE IT.

THANK YOU, AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE DOWN TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

I DON'T SEE ANY ONLINE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OR IN-PERSON.

SO WE WILL MOVE DOWN TO INFORMATIONAL ITEMS TWO FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS.

[14. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS TO/FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL, AND STAFF, AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS]

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

YEAH DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT, BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

I DEBATED ON IF I WAS GOING TO MENTION THIS, BUT I AM BECAUSE HOPEFULLY IT'S AN INSPIRATION FOR EVERYBODY.

I AM TRAVELING TO TEMPE THIS WEEKEND AND DOING MY FIRST HALF IRONMAN, AND IT'S SOMETHING I NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS THOUGHT I'D BE DOING, BUT HERE I AM, AND IT'S BEEN MONTHS OF TRAINING, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS SUPPORTED ME ALONG THIS JOURNEY, AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW HOW IT GOES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

NOTHING FOR ME, BUT BEST OF LUCK TO YOU COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

UM IN VIEW OF THE HOUR, AND ALL OF US HAVE HAD A LONG, LONG DAY.

I'M GOING TO SAVE MY COMMENTS UNTIL NEXT WEEK.

NO, I WON'T BE HERE NEXT WEEK, SO IT'LL BE THE NEXT TIME.

I'LL DO IT NEXT TIME.

VICE MAYOR. I'M GOOD, THANK YOU MAYOR.

OKAY, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THERE WAS A GREAT TOWN HALL, ARIZONA TOWN HALL ON EQUITY, AND I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO SIT AT THE TABLE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, AND I WAS GLAD TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

I VISITED DISPATCH, TOOK SOME CUPCAKES, AND THEY GAVE ME A TOUR AND REALLY SPENT SOME TIME TALKING TO ME ABOUT WHAT THEY DO, AND THEY INVITED THE ENTIRE COUNCIL TO COME.

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NO. YOU CAN JUST GO FOR.

JUST TO TALK TO THEM.

I WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY FOR A GREAT MEETING LAST NIGHT, AND THEN.

SO TODAY, VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS WAS IN TOWN, AND I WANT TO THANK WISEMAN AVIATION BECAUSE THEY REALLY HAD TO.

IT SPRING INTO ACTION TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED.

I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE PAST WITH EXTENDING THE RUNWAY AT OUR AIRPORT, BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT EXTENDED RUNWAY THAT AIR FORCE TWO CAN LAND IN FLAGSTAFF, AND WE CAN HAVE A VISIT FROM THE VICE PRESIDENT.

SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAD A HAND IN THAT, AND CITY MANAGER I DO NOT BELIEVE HAS ANYTHING.

SO WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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