Dec 12, 2023 City Council Work Session

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ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO GET STARTED.

TODAY IS TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12TH, 2023.

[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this work session, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for discussion and consultation with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]

I'M CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER.

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT AT THIS WORK SESSION, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY'S ATTORNEYS.

FOR LEGAL ADVICE ON ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA.

CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL? MAYOR DAGGETT HERE.

VICE MAYOR ASLIN, PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER MATHEWS.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

HERE. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN? THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WOULD BE MY HONOR.

PLEASE STAND IF ABLE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY OUR MISSION STATEMENT.

YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE OUR LAND.

ACKNOWLEDGMENT. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THIS AREA'S INDIGENOUS NATIONS AND ORIGINAL STEWARDS.

THESE LANDS, STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS, BORDER MOUNTAINS SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.

WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.

WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE AS HOME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

REVIEW OF THE DRAFT AGENDA FOR DECEMBER 1920 OH OH.

[5. Review of Draft Agenda for the December 19, 2023 City Council Meeting Citizens wishing to speak on agenda items not specifically called out by the City Council may submit a speaker card for their items of interest to the recording clerk.]

I WAS GOING TO ASK THE COUNCIL.

I'D LIKE TO REORDER THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT THE COUNCIL REQUESTED AND A HARD, UM, TIMELINE FOR OUR PRESENTER.

ARE YOU ALL OKAY WITH BRINGING ITEM NUMBER SEVEN UP AS THE FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE BACK IN ORDER, STARTING WITH PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. YES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

UM, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU HERE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, IF YOU'LL JUST, UM, GIVE US SOME GRACE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS PRESENTATION AND HAVE OUR SPEAKER TO HIS, UH, APPOINTMENT ON TIME.

SO, DOCTOR HEISER.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

I DO HAVE A FLASH DRIVE IF IT'S EASIER.

OKAY. LET'S GO. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE IS.

EITHER ONE OF THE.

YEAH. WHATEVER ONE WANTS TO.

THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.

TOO FAST.

LET ME TRY THAT OTHER FILE.

THERE WE GO. THERE IT GOES. OKAY.

THERE WE GO. PERFECT.

AND IS THIS ON OR IS THIS OKAY? PERFECT. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

[7. Economic Impact of Coconino Community College Presentation by Coconino Community College President Dr. Eric Heiser]

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UH, SO I'LL TRY AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT NONETHELESS, UH, MY NAME IS ERIC HEISER.

I'M THE PRESIDENT, PROUD PRESIDENT OF COCONINO COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

AND I'M DOING A BIT OF A ROAD SHOW TO TELL ALL OF OUR PARTNERS AND THOSE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WHAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS FOR CSEA IN A GIVEN YEAR, UH, TO COCONINO COUNTY, FLAGSTAFF AND ALL OF THE AREAS THAT WE SERVE.

SO THIS REPORT JUST TO TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT IN TERMS OF HOW THIS IS GLEANED, WE PARTNER WITH A COMPANY CALLED LIGHT CAST WHO WORKS SPECIFICALLY WITH HIGHER EDUCATION, COMMUNITY COLLEGES, UNIVERSITIES TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE, NOT ONLY FROM THE JOBS THAT WE SUPPORT, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WOULD SAY, OUR STUDENTS.

AND WHEN OUR STUDENTS GET OUT INTO THE ECONOMY AND START MAKING MONEY AND PAYING TAXES AND ADDING TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY LIVE AND SERVE IN.

SO, UH, THEY RUN THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT METRICS, BOTH STATEWIDE AND LOCALLY, AND COME UP WITH, I WOULD SAY, A GOOD ANALYSIS FOR NOT ONLY OUR CONSTITUENCY, BUT FOR EVERYONE IN COCONINO COUNTY TO LOOK AND SEE JUST WHAT KIND OF VALUE WE PROVIDE.

WE'LL BE DOING THIS ON A BI ANNUAL BASIS.

SO SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO TO LOOK AT AS A BENCHMARK.

THIS WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT THAT WAS DONE.

EACH OF THE TEN COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICTS IN THE STATE PAID FOR THIS, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO IT EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS JUST TO AGAIN BENCHMARK OURSELVES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THE GREAT VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITIES THAT, UH, THAT WE CURRENTLY DO.

SO JUST A QUICK SUMMATION.

THIS IS GOING TO BE TWO PARTS.

IT'S AN ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT'S MEASURING, AGAIN, HOW THE INSTITUTION ITSELF, UH, ADDS TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND THEN THE INVESTMENT.

SO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT OUR COMMUNITY INVESTS, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH PROPERTY TAXES OR OTHERWISE, UH, WHAT WHAT DOES THAT INVESTMENT ANALYSIS LOOK LIKE? SO OVERALL FOR COCONINO COUNTY, UH, WE HAVE ABOUT 85,000, UH, JOBS.

THAT RELATES TO ABOUT $7.3 BILLION WORTH OF GROSS REGIONAL PRODUCT, OR GRP.

YOU CAN SEE, AND WE ALL KNOW THIS AS WELL, THAT THE MORE EDUCATION SOMEONE HAS, THE MORE LIKELY ARE THEY ARE TO EARN MORE MONEY ONCE THEY GET OUT INTO THE MARKET. AND THAT ONE HAS THE ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE HIGHLIGHTED.

THAT'S MAINLY CERTIFICATES AND ASSOCIATE DEGREES ARE WHAT COCONINO COMMUNITY COLLEGES IS ALL ABOUT.

SO IN FY 2122, WE SERVED JUST ABOUT 4800 STUDENTS.

UH, OF THOSE VERY FEW, ONLY ABOUT 730 OF THEM WERE FOR NON CREDIT.

THE REST OF THOSE STUDENTS WERE IN SOME FORM OR FASHION EARNING COLLEGE CREDIT FROM US.

UH, THAT RESULTED IN ABOUT 300 EMPLOYEES, UH, FOR US THAT WE HAVE ABOUT $15 MILLION IN PAYROLL THAT WE ADD TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

AND THAT ALSO GENERATES ABOUT 5.7 $5.8 MILLION IN TOTAL TUITION REVENUE.

I ALWAYS GET THE QUESTION, HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE ARE IN COCONINO COUNTY IN TERMS OF THE ONES THAT ARE LIVING HERE VERSUS THOSE THAT ARE COMING HERE FROM OUT OF THE COUNTY? UH, WE HAVE ABOUT 20%.

1 IN 5 OF OUR STUDENTS COME FROM OUTSIDE THE COUNTY.

SO THAT MEANS THE OTHER FOUR ARE GENERALLY COMING TO US FROM WITHIN OUR SERVICE AREA.

SO WHAT DID THE RESULTS TELL US? THE RESULTS TELL US THAT COCONINO COMMUNITY COLLEGE, IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2122, ADDED ABOUT $63 MILLION TO THE ECONOMY.

THAT'S ABOUT 1% OF OUR GRP, AND WE SUPPORTED 1030 OF THE JOBS THAT WERE OUT THERE.

THAT'S THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, THE INVESTMENT SIDE OF THINGS.

AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS ON THE INVESTMENT SIDE LATER ON.

BUT AGAIN, THEY TALK ABOUT BENEFIT, COST RATIO, BENEFIT FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND THE BENEFIT TO THE TO SOCIETY.

AGAIN, I'LL BREAK THOSE DOWN AS WE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO ON THE ECONOMIC ECONOMIC IMPACT SIDE, WE'RE BY THE WAY, I KNOW THIS BECAUSE WE JUST DID CHRISTMAS CARDS FOR OUR STAFF.

WE'RE ACTUALLY NOW ABOUT 370 EMPLOYEES, BOTH FULL TIME AND PART TIME.

OUR STUDENT SPENDING IMPACT IN 2122 WAS ABOUT $3.6 MILLION ADDED TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.

THAT'S SUPPORTED AT ANOTHER 59 JOBS.

AND THEN OUR ALUMNI, THOSE ARE THE STUDENTS THAT ARE GRADUATING GO TO WORK.

THAT'S ANOTHER 672 JOBS.

THAT'S HOW WE GET TO THE 1030.

AND THAT ADDED $43.4 MILLION TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

THE WAY THAT THAT BREAKS DOWN IN TERMS OF WHERE OUR STUDENTS ARE GOING TO WORK, UH, BIG, UH, BIG PLAYER HERE.

I MEAN, OTHER IS OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST PART OF THE CIRCLE.

BUT IF YOU SEE HEALTH CARE, SOCIAL ASSISTANCE, THAT'S THAT'S BIG FOR A COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

OUR NURSING PROGRAM RECENTLY JUST EXPANDED TO START NEW STUDENTS EVERY SINGLE SEMESTER.

UH, WE'RE HAVING A HARDER PART NOW.

I THINK A LOT OF THIS DUE TO COVID AND WHAT YOU SAW NATIONALLY OF GETTING PEOPLE TO BE INTERESTED IN COMING INTO NURSING NEVER USED TO BE THAT WAY.

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WE USED TO BE WAITLISTED ALL THE TIME, MEANING THAT STUDENTS WOULDN'T JUST GET IN IF THEY APPLIED.

AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THOSE WAITLISTS DISSIPATE.

AND SO THAT IS VERY CONCERNING, GIVEN THE FACT THAT OUR HEALTH CARE AGENCIES ARE NOT, UH, THE DEMAND HAS NOT GONE DOWN.

IT HAS ONLY INCREASED SINCE COVID.

SO UNSURPRISING TO SEE THE NUMBER OF HEALTH CARE JOBS THAT WE SUPPORTED.

WE KNOW THAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW, GO UP, AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO CONTINUE TO KIND OF BANG THE DRUM OF, UH, NOT ONLY NURSING, BUT, UM, RAD TECH, SURGE TECH. UM, THE TECHNICAL JOBS IN THE HOSPITALS ARE GREAT JOBS WITH GREAT BENEFITS AND GREAT FUTURES.

AND NOT THAT THAT FOLKS THAT WE WANT THEM TO TAKE A LOOK FOR THEMSELVES AND NOT JUST VIEW WHAT THEY'RE SEEING ON THE LOCAL NEWS ABOUT HOW TOUGH THIS JOB IS, OR CERTAINLY THEY ARE TOUGH JOBS, BUT THEY ARE ALSO GREAT CAREERS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TO TO BEAT THAT DRUM.

UH, RETAIL TRADE WAS ONE OF THE BIG ONES TOO, 120 DIFFERENT UH DEGREES IN THAT AREA, GOVERNMENT JOBS, OTHER SERVICES OUTSIDE OF GOVERNMENT ACCOMMODATION, FOOD SERVICES, HOSPITALITY, AND THEN AGAIN, ALL OF OUR OTHER INDUSTRIES.

WE ARE SEEING VERY BIG GROWTH AS WELL IN OUR CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS THAT, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK TO WHEN THE COLLEGE WAS ASKING FOR THE TAX RESET, WAS ONE OF THE PROMISES THAT WE MADE TO THE COMMUNITY.

IF IF THIS TAX RESET IS PASSED, WE WILL EXPAND OUR PROGRAMING ON THE CAREER AND TECH ED SIDE.

AND SO WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO DO THAT, UH, ADDING NEW CAREER AND TECH ED PROGRAMS, EXPANDING THE ONES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

ONE OF OUR BIGGEST GROWTH PROGRAMS RIGHT NOW IS CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.

YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THE COLLEGE WAS A RECIPIENT, ONE OF THE FIRST TEN IN THE NATION OF A GABLE GRANT FROM LOWE'S, THE LOWE'S HARDWARE COMPANY, THE LOWE'S FOUNDATION.

THEY GAVE US $750,000 TO EXPAND OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT CONSTRUCTION TRADES PROGRAMS, ALONG WITH APPRENTICESHIPS.

SO THAT'S A BIG WIN FOR US TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM.

WE'RE VERY QUICKLY GETTING TO THE PLACE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF SPACE BEFORE WE RUN OUT OF PROGRAMS TO ADD.

SO IT'S LIKE PLAYING TETRIS RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY AT OUR OUR FOURTH STREET CAMPUS, BUT IT'S A GAME OF TETRIS I'D RATHER PLAY AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING ENOUGH PROGRAMS THAT ARE SERVING THE COMMUNITY.

SO THE INVESTMENT ANALYSIS I TALKED ABOUT THAT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT MEANS.

SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR OUR STUDENTS WHEN WE SAY THAT THEY HAVE A 3.6 COST BENEFIT RATIO? WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT A STUDENT INVESTS AT COCONINO COMMUNITY COLLEGE, $3.60 COMES BACK TO THEM.

UH, THAT EQUATES TO A 13.8% RATE OF RETURN.

THAT IS BETTER THAN ANY RETURN YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IN A STOCK MARKET OR ANY TYPE OF NORMAL INVESTING.

YOU MIGHT, UH. UH, I SUPPOSE THE MORE AGGRESSIVE YOU GET, YOU COULD SEE BIGGER RETURNS ON THAT, BUT THAT'S A HECK OF A RETURN.

UH, THAT EVERY DOLLAR THAT YOU SPEND COMES BACK TO YOU IN $3.60.

WHAT ABOUT FROM THE TAXPAYER SIDE? UH, FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT IS INVESTED INTO COCONINO COMMUNITY COLLEGE, FROM PROPERTY TAXES OR OTHER STATE FUNDS, WE GIVE BACK $1.50. THAT'S NOT NORMAL.

NORMALLY, TAX FUNDS ARE EXPENDED FOR THINGS THAT WE DON'T SEE MONEY BACK ON, THINGS THAT WE JUST HAVE TO SPEND THAT ON TO BE A FREE AND FUNCTIONING SOCIETY IN THIS CASE, ON THE EDUCATIONAL SIDE, WE ARE GIVING BACK $1.50 FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE TAKE IN TAX FUNDING.

SO WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD OF HOW WE STEWARD THE TAXPAYER FUNDS AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THAT WE GET EACH YEAR. AND THEN FROM THE SOCIAL PERSPECTIVE, AND THIS IS BOTH TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE, WE KNOW THAT MORE FULLY EDUCATED, UH, SOCIETIES ARE GOING TO FUNCTION BETTER.

EDUCATION IS ALWAYS A GREAT THING IN TERMS OF GROWTH FOR A COMMUNITY.

AND AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT FOLKS ARE, UM, GROWING IN THE EDUCATION DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY'RE GROWING IN.

RIGHT. BUT JUST GETTING AN EDUCATION HELPS SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.

THAT COST BENEFIT RATIO IS ABOUT 690.

SO $6.90 FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT MAY BE INVESTED.

AND THE REASON YOU SEE THAT THERE'S NOT A RATE OF RETURN THERE IS BECAUSE IT'S HARDER TO MEASURE THE INTANGIBLES VERSUS THOSE THINGS THAT ARE TANGIBLE.

SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA.

AGAIN, IN TERMS OF WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VALUE IN HIGHER EDUCATION, IT'S BEEN REALLY, REALLY POPULAR IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

UH, TO NOT SEE ARTICLES ABOUT IS THE VALUE OF HIGHER EDUCATION WORTH IT? I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THIS REPORT, UM, NOT ONLY DEMONSTRATES IN IN A STATISTICAL MANNER, BUT ALSO FROM A SOCIETAL MANNER THAT

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SO THAT'S JUST A QUICK KIND OF RUNDOWN.

I AM HAPPY TO SHARE ANYTHING.

WE DID HAVE A FACT SHEET THAT WE PASSED AROUND.

I KNOW AS WELL, UM, IN TERMS OF THE AGENDA THAT YOU HAD, THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THAT WAS IN THERE, THAT GOES A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THE VALUE OF C.C.C.

AND WHAT WE PROVIDE TO NOT ONLY FLAGSTAFF, BUT TO COCONINO COUNTY AS A WHOLE.

UM, AND JUST AGAIN, WANT TO BE TOP OF MIND, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT WE DON'T HAVE OUR HAND OUT IN THIS CASE.

WE JUST WANT FOLKS TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS COMMUNITY COLLEGE IS THE COMMUNITY'S COLLEGE, AND WE ARE HERE FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS.

WE WANT EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS COUNTY WHO WANTS TO TO BE ABLE TO GET AN EDUCATION.

SO WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH OUR PROMISE PROGRAM, WHERE STUDENTS THAT COME FROM HOUSEHOLDS THAT MAKE $65,000 OR LESS WON'T PAY A NICKEL IN TUITION, OR THE MANY SCHOLARSHIPS AND GRANTS THAT WE OFFER OUR STUDENTS C.C.C.

IS GROWING. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW, AND WE ARE IN A GREAT UPWARD TRAJECTORY AND CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE DIFFERENCES THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE FOR, UH, THE LIVES OF OUR STUDENTS AND HOPE THAT THOSE STUDENTS STICK AROUND HERE IN COCONINO COUNTY AS WELL, AND BECOME TAXPAYING CITIZENS DOWN THE WAY.

SO I'M HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

BUT MOST OF ALL, JUST APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR PARTNERSHIP AS WELL.

THE CITY IS A HUGE PARTNER WITH C.C.C., AND WE COULDN'T DO THE THINGS THAT WE DO WITHOUT YOU, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, DOCTOR HEIZER.

UH COUNCIL.

QUESTIONS? COMMENTS I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS COMMITMENT.

AND I SEE IT FIRSTHAND THROUGH THE NONPROFIT THAT I RUN FOR, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.

I HAVE, I BELIEVE, TWO STUDENTS IN NURSING, ONE THAT'S ENROLLED FOR THE SPRING, AND ANOTHER ONE I'M SPEAKING TO ABOUT THE MECHANICS CERTIFICATE.

UM, THIS IS SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND ASSET FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, FOR FOLKS THAT EXPERIENCE HOUSING INSECURITIES AND STRUGGLING WITH, UM, MAKING IT SUCCESSFUL UP HERE AND BEING ABLE TO SURVIVE, GIVING THEM THIS PAUSE.

THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP, UM, AND ALLOW THEM TO DO A RESET ON THEIR LIFE AND CREATE A POTENTIAL EARNING, YOU KNOW, A HIGHER EARNING POTENTIAL HAS BEEN AMAZING.

AND AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TEARS OF JOY SHED OVER, UM, AVENUE.

AND I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD AND THESE PROGRAMS THAT YOU'VE DONE TO MAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE OF ANY ECONOMIC, UM, SETTING TO GO AND FIND A WAY TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY ENJOY, AND THEY'LL LEARN TO ENJOY AND INCREASE THEIR POTENTIAL FOR A HIGHER EARNING.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MATTHEWS APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, YOUR FOCUS TONIGHT WAS ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE COLLEGE, WHICH IS AMAZING.

UM, BUT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT CURRICULUM CURRICULA.

UM. I'M KIND OF WORRIED ABOUT THIS COUNTRY, TO BE HONEST.

UM, IT SEEMS THAT YES, WE CAN LEARN MATHEMATICS AND WE CAN LEARN HOW TO DO STRESS ANALYSIS OR THERMODYNAMICS.

I'M AN ENGINEER, SO I THINK IN THOSE TERMS. BUT EVEN AMONGST ENGINEERS, IT SEEMS THAT THEY DON'T DEVELOP THE ABILITY TO SEE THROUGH THE BALONEY, SO TO SPEAK.

WE HAVE CERTAIN PEOPLE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW THAT ARE DOCUMENTABLE LIARS.

AND, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY CAN'T SEE THROUGH THAT.

SO WE ALSO NEED PART OF THE CURRICULA.

SOMETHING THAT TEACHES PEOPLE HOW TO THINK AND HOW TO SEE THROUGH THE BALONEY AND JUST HOW TO BE RATIONAL.

UM, SO I DON'T I HAVEN'T REVIEWED YOUR CURRICULUM, BUT I KNOW MY ENGINEERING DEGREE IS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA, AND THEY'VE MADE ME TAKE A BUNCH OF CLASSES THAT WERE NON TECHNICAL, AND AT THE TIME, I JUST RESENTED THAT BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE A WASTE OF MY TIME.

I WANT TO BE AN ENGINEER.

WELL, BUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND NOW IS THAT A LOT OF THOSE CLASSES HELPED ME TO THINK THROUGH OUR SOCIAL PROBLEMS AND TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A TO DEVELOP A DETECTOR WHERE WE CAN SEE WHEN PEOPLE ARE TALKING BALONEY.

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BUT I JUST HOPE THAT WHEN YOU REVIEW YOUR CURRICULA THAT YOU INCLUDE THINGS THAT MAKE PEOPLE SEE THE BROAD PICTURE, NOT THE NARROW.

OKAY, I KNOW HOW TO DO CALCULUS OR UH, UH, QUANTUM MECHANICS OR WHATEVER THAT DOESN'T.

UNDERSTANDING QUANTUM MECHANICS DOESN'T HELP YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TO SEE THROUGH.

YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH. AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN, I WOULD JUST SAY REALLY QUICKLY TO RESPOND TO THAT.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN WE TALK TO OUR WORKFORCE AND THESE ARE FOLKS THAT THAT NEED THE TANGIBLE, HANDS ON SKILLS, WE ASK THEM, WELL, CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO HAVE THOSE SKILLS TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.

WHAT ELSE DO THEY NEED? THEY ANSWER, INEVITABLY, I REFUSE.

I HATE THE TERMS. SOFT SKILLS.

WE CALL THEM WORK READY SKILLS.

THAT IS THE ABILITY TO CRITICALLY THINK, THE ABILITY TO PROBLEM SOLVE, THE ABILITY TO READ AND WRITE COHERENTLY.

UM, AND THAT IS IN BOTH.

SO CERTAINLY AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE PROGRAM, UH, THAT'S GENERAL EDUCATION, RIGHT? THOSE ARE THE THINGS. BUT WE INCORPORATE THOSE EVEN DOWN TO A MORE, UH, A SMALLER SCALE.

IF A STUDENT IS IN A CERTIFICATE, WHICH IS A SHORTER PROGRAM, THE IDEA IS, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A MORE WELL-ROUNDED STUDENT, NOT JUST SOMEONE WHO HAS THE TRADE SKILLS. SO I THINK I AGREE ABSOLUTELY WITH YOUR COMMENT.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ONLY TOP OF MIND, IT'S IN PRACTICE FOR FOR WHAT WE DO.

SO NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO AT C.C.C., EVEN IF IT IS JUST TO LEARN A SKILL, THE IDEA IS WITHIN THAT PROGRAM, WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU AND TEACH YOU ABOUT THE WAYS TO CRITICALLY THINK ABOUT THE WAYS TO PROBLEM SOLVE, TO BE A BETTER EMPLOYEE.

SO THOSE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS THAT AND I THINK I WOULD I WOULD SAY EVEN NATIONALLY, COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE VERY ATTUNED TO UM, AND WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, TO KIND OF CARRY THAT FLAG.

YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS BEFORE, SO I'M REALLY PLEASED TO HEAR THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN. VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

ERIC, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

YOU BET. REALLY APPRECIATE THE REPORT.

I'M GLAD THAT THINGS ARE LOOKING SO POSITIVE IN YOUR SPHERE.

UM. YOUR C.C.C..

WE'RE THE CITY.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU WOULD MIND BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE'RE BOTH PARTNERING TOGETHER TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE.

UM, AND MAYBE TOUCH UPON SOME SOME THINGS YOU GOT COOKING ON THE BACK BURNER? YEAH, CERTAINLY. SO I'LL GIVE YOU THE ONE CURRENT AND THEN DEFINITELY ONE THAT'S COOKING.

AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT ON IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.

UH, I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE AND I WOULD TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHY WE GET CHOSEN FOR THE GRANTS THAT WE GET.

BUT KNOWING THAT WE ARE ONE OF ONLY TEN COMMUNITY COLLEGES IN THE COUNTRY TO GET THAT LOWE'S GRANT, I THINK IT HAD A LOT TO DO WITH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY HABITAT FOR HUMANITY IN IN BUILDING THOSE TINY HOMES AND STARTING TO JUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY PROGRAM HERE IN, IN FLAGSTAFF.

UM, I THAT THAT STUFF DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED.

SO ANY WAY THAT WE CAN BE A PARTNER IN, IN SPECIFICALLY IN THAT ONE BUILDING, BUILDING THE WALLS FOR THOSE TINY HOMES AND HELPING OUT AS THEY STAND AND BACK UP, I THINK THAT'S A REAL THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN POINT OUT AND SAY, YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S NOT ONLY IS IT A GREAT THING, I WISH WE COULD DO 40 MORE A YEAR, UM, LET ALONE THE 40 THAT WE HAVE SITTING IN FRONT OF US NOW WITH THE NEW TIMBER SKY PROJECT.

UH, ONE THAT'S COMING AS A PART OF THE ALLIANCE, WHICH IS COUNTY.

CITY. UM, UH, MOUNTAIN LION SPECIFICALLY IN THIS CASE, MOUNTAIN LION IS SO AND I ALLUDED TO THIS EARLIER, WE'RE HAVING TO BE VERY, UH, INGENUITIVE WITH, WITH THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE FOR STREET.

UH, IF WE HAVEN'T OUTGROWN IT, WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE REAL QUICK.

SO MY CONVERSATIONS WITH BUSINESS OWNERS AND THOSE THAT THAT NEED THE TYPES OF SERVICES WE'RE PROVIDING TO STUDENTS ARE, LOOK, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THE PROGRAM TO START THE PROGRAM, IF WE CAN PROVE DEMAND AND LIVABLE WAGES.

I JUST NEED HELP WITH SPACE.

AND SO IN IN PARTNERSHIP.

AND ON THAT NOTE WITH MOUNTAIN LION, THEY SAID, HEY, WE'RE BUILDING A BRAND NEW SERVICE FACILITY FOR OUR BUSSES.

WHAT IF WE PUT A SPACE IN THERE THAT YOU COULD UTILIZE AS A LAB AND CLASSROOM SPACE SO THAT YOU COULD TEACH A DIESEL TECH AND DIESEL MECHANIC PROGRAM? AND WE SAID, SIGN US UP.

SO NEXT YEAR OR TWO, THAT'LL BE ONE OF OUR NEW PROGRAMS DIESEL TECH, DIESEL MECHANIC.

UH, I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A FIGHT, EVEN IN THE ALLIANCE AS TO WHO GET THOSE GRADUATES FIRST.

UH, F USD CERTAINLY IS INTERESTED FROM THEIR SIDE.

THE CITY IS INTERESTED, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WHEN I TALK ABOUT PARTNERSHIP, THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE SEE OURSELVES AS HOW CAN WE BE OF SERVICE WITH THE GRADUATES WE PUT

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SO, UM, THERE'S LOTS, LOTS TO LOTS OF GOOD.

I TELL OUR STAFF ALL THE TIME, WE GOT SO MUCH LOW HANGING FRUIT AROUND HERE, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T STEP ON IT.

SO THINGS ARE GOOD.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE AND COUNCIL MEMBER.

SWEET. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I WAS JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION RECENTLY, ACTUALLY, WITH SOMEONE IN HIGHER ED, AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE THE SHIFT THAT THEY'VE BEEN NOTICING IN COMMUNITY COLLEGES ACROSS THE NATION TO ESSENTIALLY BE BECOMING MORE AKIN TO FOUR YEAR DEGREE PROGRAMS. AND IT SEEMS VERY TELLING TO ME THAT COCONINO HAS HAS A VERY CLEAR FOCUS ON THAT CAREER TRAINING AND THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT AND ENRICHMENT PROGRAMING.

SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN SPEAK BRIEFLY AND JUST A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR VIEWS OF WHY THAT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT FOCUS, PARTICULARLY FOR A COMMUNITY LIKE OURS AND COCONINO COUNTY? YEAH. SO I WOULD SAY I THINK THE REASON YOU'RE SEEING THAT PROLIFERATION, THAT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS BEHIND IT, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST, THOUGH, IS THE SIZE OF THE FUNNEL AND NEEDING TO EXPAND THAT FUNNEL.

SO WHERE WHERE I CAME FROM IN OHIO, COMMUNITY COLLEGES STARTED, GOT PERMISSION FROM THE STATE AND THEIR ACCREDITORS TO OFFER BACCALAUREATE OF SCIENCE AND NURSING DEGREES.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT WAS THE FOUR YEARS JUST WEREN'T PUTTING OUT ENOUGH GRADUATES TO DO THAT.

THEIR THEIR CAPACITY WAS LIMITED, AND THEY NEEDED TO OPEN UP THE TOP OF THAT FUNNEL TO GET MORE STUDENTS IN.

I WOULD TELL YOU. SO THIS IS THE THE FOURTH COMMUNITY COLLEGE THAT I'VE WORKED AT AND THE FOURTH DIFFERENT STATE.

UM, I, I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE LEVEL OF PARTNERSHIP THAT I, I SEE ON A DAILY BASIS BETWEEN US AND NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY.

THAT IS UM, IN PART NO, NO SMALL PART DUE TO PRESIDENT CRUZ RIVERA, WHO GETS AND UNDERSTANDS THE MISSION OF A COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND ALLOWS US BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A GOOD PARTNER TO US TO FOCUS ON THAT TWO YEAR DEGREE AND KNOW THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE IN GOOD HANDS ONCE THEY FINISH WITH US.

UM, THAT IS VERY, VERY UNCOMMON.

I SHARED A CAMPUS.

I THEY'LL REMAIN NAMELESS, BUT THEY DO HAVE THE WORD THE IN FRONT OF THEIR NAME.

UM, WITH A CERTAIN INSTITUTION IN THE MIDWEST.

WE WERE LUCKY IF WE WERE EVER IDENTIFIED BY THEM OR THEIR PRESIDENT.

THERE'S NARY A WEEK THAT GOES BY THAT I'M NOT IN CONTACT DIRECTLY WITH PRESIDENT CRUZ RIVERA ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT EXPAND OUR PARTNERSHIP, HOW WHAT WHAT CAN WE DO IN THIS AREA OR THAT AREA.

SO IT REALLY DOES TAKE TWO TO TANGO, BUT I THINK IT WORKS SO WELL HERE BECAUSE THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS NOT A COMPETITION.

THIS IS ABOUT MAKING STUDENTS BETTER FROM ALL FACETS, NOT JUST, WELL, I'M GOING TO TAKE ALL THE STUDENTS AS THE UNIVERSITY AND I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

WE HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY, AND WE CAN PREPARE THOSE STUDENTS SO THAT THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL WHEN THEY GRADUATE OR HEAD TO NYU.

AND PRESIDENT CRUZ RIVERA REALLY UNDERSTANDS THAT, AND I TRULY APPRECIATE HIS PARTNERSHIP.

AND AND THAT GOES THE OTHER WAY, TOO, WITH WITH FLAGSTAFF UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEY ALSO UNDERSTAND AND VALUE, UM, THE PATH TO HIGHER ED.

AND SO I THINK WE ARE IN A UNIQUE AND UNIQUE IN A GOOD WAY SPOT WHEN WHEN I LOOK ACROSS THE COUNTRY, EVEN ACROSS THE STATE.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, AND I'VE LIVED IN FLAGSTAFF A LONG TIME, AND I SEE THE SHIFT THAT C.C.C.

IS PLAYING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR OUTREACH, BUILDING THE PROGRAMS, THE PARTNERSHIPS, AND SEEING WHAT FLAGSTAFF NEEDS IN YOUR.

YOU'RE ACTIVELY HELPING US ACHIEVE OUR GOALS AND I JUST APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET APPRECIATE THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT HEISER, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

UM, IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE, UM, OUR PARTNERS COME AND TALK TO US AND TELL US THINGS THAT WE THINK WE KNOW, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE.

AND SO THANK YOU AGAIN, AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU OUT OF HERE IN TIME FOR YOUR NEXT APPOINTMENT.

BUT I HAVE A QUESTION AND A COMMENT.

UM, SO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR CURRICULAR.

UM, OKAY.

AND YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THAT THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF CONVERSATIONS GOING ON OUT THERE ABOUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO MY QUESTION AND MY COMMENT IS REALLY ABOUT WE'RE TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO BE DIESEL MECHANICS.

WE'RE TEACHING THEM HOW TO BE NURSES.

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HOW ARE WE PREPARING THEM TO WORK WITH PEOPLE IN THE WORKFORCE WHO LOOK DIFFERENT FROM THEM? SURE. YEAH.

SO AGAIN, INHERENT ADVANTAGE FOR US.

UH, WE WE SWAY BACK AND FORTH.

I BELIEVE THE NUMBERS.

IF IF I WENT BACK AND LOOKED FOR THE FALL.

UH, WE ARE A MAJORITY MINORITY INSTITUTION.

SO IN AND OF ITSELF, THE LEVEL OF DIVERSITY THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO OUR STUDENTS JUST BY VIRTUE OF BEING IN A CLASS, UH, IS THAT'S THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW COMMUNITY COLLEGES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT CAN SAY WE ARE A MAJORITY MINORITY INSTITUTION, NOT THE THE LEAST OF WHICH IS THOSE ARE USUALLY IN URBAN AREAS. SO FOR US TO HAVE IT IN A QUOTE UNQUOTE RURAL AREA, I THINK IS A HUGE ADVANTAGE.

BUT. IT CAN'T JUST BE ABOUT WE HAVE DIVERSITY OF STUDENTS, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY UNDERSTAND AND AND VALUE THE DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS, BUT TO EVEN JUST BE ABLE TO HEAR THEM.

AND SO WHEN I WAS SPEAKING TO COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE DESIGN THAT CURRICULUM, IT IS INCLUSIVE OF IDENTIFYING THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT GREW UP DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU DID, AND THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE OF THAT.

AND IT IS NOT NECESSARILY RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT AS YOU ENCOUNTER FOLKS THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN YOU IN THE WORKPLACE.

AND THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE, AGAIN, THEY'RE DELIBERATE.

THEY DON'T JUST HAPPEN.

UM, AND I THINK AGAIN, FOR US, IT IS A BIT EASIER BECAUSE OUR STUDENTS CAN LOOK AROUND IN THE CLASSROOM AND SAY, HOLY COW.

UM, THIS IS THIS IS FULL OF NOT ONLY PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS, BUT PEOPLE THAT GREW UP DIFFERENTLY THAN I DID.

AND SO, UH, IF WE'RE NOT HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND WE ARE, I THINK IT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS DISSERVICE TO OUR STUDENTS BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO WHEN WE TALK TO EMPLOYERS, THE THINGS THEY TELL US, YES, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE SKILLS, BUT I'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S A TEAM PLAYER.

I HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN WORK WITH OTHER PEOPLE.

SO WE'RE NOT TEACHING THOSE THOSE SKILLS, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THOSE SKILLS BEFORE THEY GOT TO US.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THEM WHEN THEY LEAVE AND GO TO THE WORKFORCE.

SO YEAH, ANOTHER BIG THING THAT THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

AND LIKE I SAID, LUCKILY IT ISN'T JUST.

THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT IN A TEXTBOOK.

I MEAN, IT'S IN THE CLASSROOM.

THEY'RE SEEING IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AND, UH, AS EVERYONE ELSE SAID, THANK YOU FOR THE PARTNERSHIP.

WE HAVE A WE HAVE A STRONG RELATIONSHIP AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE APPRECIATE YOU AS WELL.

THANK YOU MAYOR. APPRECIATE YOU COUNCIL.

OKAY. MOVING BACK UP TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

[4. Public Participation Public Participation enables the public to address the council about items that are not on the prepared agenda. Public Participation appears on the agenda twice, at the beginning and at the end of the work session. You may speak at one or the other, but not both. Anyone wishing to comment at the meeting is asked to fill out a speaker card and submit it to the recording clerk. When the item comes up on the agenda, your name will be called. You may address the Council up to three times throughout the meeting, including comments made during Public Participation. Please limit your remarks to three minutes per item to allow everyone to have an opportunity to speak. At the discretion of the Chair, ten or more persons present at the meeting and wishing to speak may appoint a representative who may have no more than fifteen minutes to speak.]

PUBLIC PARTICIPATION APPEARS ON THE AGENDA TWICE, AT THE BEGINNING AND AT THE END OF THE WORK SESSION.

YOU MAY SPEAK AT ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT NOT BOTH.

ANYONE WISHING TO COMMENT AT THE MEETING IS ASKED TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE RECORDING CLERK, AND WHEN THE ITEM COMES, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU COME DOWN, SPEAK TO US NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES, PLEASE.

AND, UM.

AND I SAY THIS EVERY TIME WE HAVE A LARGE CROWD THAT, UM, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US THAT ALL THAT EVERYONE'S VIEWPOINTS ARE RESPECTED.

SO IF YOU WOULD REFRAIN FROM BOOING, CLAPPING, CHEERING, WHATEVER, UM, THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED BECAUSE WE WANT EVERYONE TO, TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING HEARD.

AND RESPECTED.

SO FIRST UP, SALLY TYRRELL.

AND AFTER SALLY IS TRAVIS BRUNER.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

FOR ALL OF YOU. HOW MANY HAVE GREAT GRANDCHILDREN? YOU DON'T HAVE TO RAISE YOUR HAND.

GRANDCHILDREN. CHILDREN.

MAYBE CHILDREN IN THE FUTURE.

I ALWAYS HAVE TROUBLE READING THIS ALOUD WITHOUT CHOKING UP, BUT I'LL GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY.

IT'S WRITTEN BY A MAN NAMED DREW DILLINGER.

IT'S 323 IN THE MORNING AND I'M AWAKE.

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THEY ASKED ME IN DREAMS. WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN THE PLANET WAS PLUNDERED? WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN THE EARTH WAS UNRAVELING? SURELY YOU DID SOMETHING.

WHEN THE SEASON STARTED FAILING AS THE MAMMALS, REPTILES, BIRDS WERE ALL DYING.

WHAT DID YOU DO? ONCE YOU KNEW.

ONCE YOU KNEW.

FLAGSTAFF HAS AN ORGANIZATION CALLED FRIENDS OF FLAGSTAFF'S FUTURE.

I TRUST THEM.

THEY RECOMMEND LEAVING FLAGSTAFF CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN UNCHANGED.

ONE MORE TIME.

IT'S 323 IN THE MORNING.

AND EACH OF US IS AWAKE.

BECAUSE OUR GREAT, GREAT GRANDKIDS WON'T LET US SLEEP.

AND ASK US IN DREAMS. WHAT DID YOU DO? PERHAPS. HOW DID YOU VOTE? THANK YOU.

TRAVIS BRUNER AND THEN STEFAN SOMMER.

ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION DURING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

COUNCIL CAN'T RESPOND TO YOU.

ASK QUESTIONS.

ANSWER QUESTIONS.

SO. THAT'S WHY WE JUST STARE AT YOU WHILE YOU'RE SPEAKING.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME HERE TODAY FOR OUR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

MY NAME IS TRAVIS BRUNER.

I'M THE CONSERVATION DIRECTOR AT THE GRAND CANYON TRUST HERE IN TOWN.

IT'S OUR MISSION TO SAFEGUARD THE WONDERS OF THE GRAND CANYON AND THE COLORADO PLATEAU, WHILE SUPPORTING THE RIGHTS OF ITS NATIVE PEOPLES.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON CONSERVATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUES IN OUR REGION SINCE 1985.

THE TRUST WORKED WITH THE BROAD COALITION OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS, SOME OF WHOM ARE HERE TODAY IN FLAGSTAFF, TO DEVELOP THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN THAT YOU ALL ADOPTED BACK IN 2020. AND WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU DID THAT.

UM, THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A PETITION TO AMEND THAT PLAN FROM FLAGSTAFF FIRST, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE TO YOU ALL TO NOT DO THAT, BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL HINDER THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

THE PLAN AS CURRENTLY ADOPTED CAME CAME TOGETHER AFTER MANY MONTHS, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER.

UM, AND IS A REALLY OUTSTANDING PLAN.

IT'S REALLY A MODEL, I THINK, FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES IN ARIZONA AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

UH, AND IT WOULD BE, UH, REALLY TRAGIC TO SEE THAT BE CHANGED.

UM, CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT BECOMING LESS OF AN ISSUE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS TAKE ON THAT.

THERE ARE NEW REPORTS RELEASED ALMOST DAILY ABOUT HOW THIS CRISIS IS WORSENING AND THREATENING HUMAN COMMUNITIES AND THE NATURAL WORLD ACROSS THE GLOBE, INCLUDING IN NORTHERN ARIZONA.

AND ACHIEVING CARBON NEUTRALITY, UH, IN COMMUNITIES IS ESSENTIAL TO SLOWING THAT DOWN.

WE ALL SEE THAT AT THE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL LEVEL, GOVERNMENT SEEMS UNABLE TO COME UP WITH SOLID, TANGIBLE PLANS TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, AND THINGS LIKE A LOCAL CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN LIKE WE HAVE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY TANGIBLE THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED AND THAT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE FLAGSTAFF FIRST IS COMING FROM IN WANTING TO PRIORITIZE FIRE, FLOOD, AND DROUGHT.

UM, HOWEVER, THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE AMENDING THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF FUNDS AND ENTITIES IN THE CITY COUNTY STATE THAT ARE ALREADY DEDICATED TO ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES.

AND IF WE SORT OF DILUTE THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN TO BE FOCUSED ON THOSE THINGS AND DIVERT RESOURCES TO FIRE, FLOOD AND DROUGHT HERE, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THOSE RESOURCES THAT WERE MEANT TO BE DEVOTED TO STRIVING TOWARDS CARBON NEUTRALITY AS A CITY.

UH, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE CONCERNED THAT FOCUSING ON WHAT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN OUTLINED AND PLANS TO

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I THINK THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A MAJOR ISSUE IN THIS CITY THAT WE ALL WANT TO SEE ADDRESSED AS WELL, BUT THAT THAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH ADDRESSING CARBON NEUTRALITY WITH THINGS LIKE IMPROVED PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND MORE EFFICIENT APPLIANCES AND SMALLER HOMES, THE TINY HOMES THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER.

UH, SO SEEING, MY TIME IS RUNNING OUT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE YOU DO NOT ADOPT THE PLAN OR DON'T AMEND THE PLAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU TRAVIS STEFAN SOMMER AND THEN BEST.

HELLO MAYOR DAGGETT, VICE MAYOR ASLAN AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITIZENS OF FLAGSTAFF.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.

I'VE BEEN, UH, A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY SINCE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS, AND I JUST RECENTLY RETIRED AS A PROFESSOR AT NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY.

UM, I'M ALSO, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WITH THE NORTHERN ARIZONA CLIMATE CHANGE ALLIANCE, AND MANY ORGANIZATIONS TODAY HAVE BROUGHT OUT THEIR MEMBERS TO STAND FOR THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY WHO'S HERE FOR IN SUPPORT OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN TO PLEASE STAND.

THANK YOU. SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO DO THEIR PART TO AVERT THE GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE CRISIS. PAST CITY COUNCILS HAVE DONE THEIR PART BY DEVELOPING AND PASSING THE FLAGSTAFF CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN 2018 BY DECLARING A CLIMATE EMERGENCY.

AND BY CAREFULLY DEVELOPING AND PASSING THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN WITH THE INPUT FROM THOUSANDS OF FLAGSTAFF CITIZENS AND MANY CLIMATE EXPERTS.

NOW A GROUP OF CLIMATE DENIERS HAS PROPOSED TO CHANGE THE PRIORITIES OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IN WAYS THAT WOULD UNDERMINE ITS ABILITY TO LOWER FLAGSTAFF CARBON FOOTPRINT. THEIR WEBSITE IS CLEAR, THEIR GOAL IS TO UNDERMINE THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, MAKE NO DOUBT.

THE SCIENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE IS CLEAR.

THE DATA SHOW THAT THE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE OF THE EARTH IS RISING, AND THIS HEATING OF THE EARTH IS CAUSED BY HUMAN EMISSIONS OF GREENHOUSE GASES.

THE REASON THIS IS A CONCERN IS THAT CLIMATE AFFECTS EVERYTHING.

CROPS, REFUGEES, TREES, SPRINGS, RAINFALL, SNOW, OUR ECONOMY, YOU NAME IT.

EVERYTHING. THE ONLY WAY TO AVERT GLOBAL DISASTER IS TO REDUCE OUR EMISSIONS TO ZERO.

AND PERHAPS REMOVE SOME CO2 BY CHEMICAL OR BIOLOGICAL MEANS.

WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

CURRENT PROJECTIONS ARE THAT THE EARTH WILL REACH 1.5°C.

THAT'S 2.7°F WARMING SOMETIME IN THE YEAR 2028.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO WASTE ON PROPOSALS BY KNOW NOTHING CLIMATE DENIERS.

WE NEED TO REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

I URGE YOU, CITY COUNCIL, TO REJECT THE MISINFORMED REPRIORITISATION OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND IMPLEMENT THAT PLAN IN ITS CURRENT FORM AS COMPLETELY AND AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU STEFAN.

SORT BEST.

AND THEN VALERIE BRYANT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

IT'S NICE TO STARE AT YOU AND SEE YOU STARING BACK.

UM, MY NAME IS SCOTT BEST.

UH, THANKS FOR MY THREE MINUTES.

AND THANKS FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO.

WHEN I WAS AT A COUNCIL MEETING IN THE SPRING, I BELIEVE IT WAS VICE MAYOR ASLIN WHO MENTIONED THAT THE FLAGSTAFF DARK SKIES EFFORT WAS SUPPORT.

THE WAS SUPPORTING THE NAVAL OBSERVATORY AND THEREFORE CONTRIBUTING TO OUR NATIONAL DEFENSE.

I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER A PHYSICAL FEELING OF PRIDE IN MY CHEST, AND I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT MOMENT IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN DISCUSSION.

SO HERE'S A LITTLE AMATEUR SOCIOLOGY, AND I HOPE YOU'LL PUT UP WITH IT.

YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY, UH, WE EVOLVED AS SOCIAL ANIMALS TO TRUST AND SUPPORT OUR GROUP AND TO COOPERATE WITH, BUT ALSO TO BE WARY OF OTHER GROUPS.

OVER THE MILLENNIA, THE GROUPS HAVE EVOLVED FROM HUNTER GATHERER FAMILY UNITS TO VILLAGES, CITY STATES, AND FINALLY, THE NATION STATES WE HAVE TODAY.

WHEN A GROUP IS IN PERIL, WE STEP FORWARD.

WE'RE HARDWIRED TO DO THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, FOR MOST OF US, THAT VISCERAL CONNECTION DOESN'T APPLY AS STRONGLY TO OUR PLANET.

AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO PLANETARY RIVAL VILLAGE.

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WHEN HE ARRIVED IN ORBIT, HE LOOKED OUT AT THE COLD, EMPTY VASTNESS OF THE UNIVERSE AND THEN DOWN AT THE BEAUTIFUL BLUE GREEN PLANET WE CALL HOME.

AND HE WAS OVERCOME BY LOVE FOR OUR PLANET AND GRIEF WHEN HE CONSIDERED HOW WE'RE ABUSING IT.

HE MADE THAT VISCERAL CONNECTION THAT I MENTIONED, AND HE RESOLVED TO WORK TO HELP HIS HOME PLANET.

UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF US ARE NOT GOING UP INTO SPACE.

MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER WAY WE COULD MAKE THAT CONNECTION.

REMEMBER THE MOVIE INDEPENDENCE DAY ABOUT AN ALIEN INVASION OF EARTH WHEN THE ALIEN SPACESHIPS WERE HOVERING OVER MAJOR CITIES AROUND THE WORLD? THE PEOPLE OF EARTH UNITED AS ONE VILLAGE AND TOOK THE ALIENS DOWN.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT UFA UFOS LATELY, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TIME TO WAIT FOR AN ALIEN INVASION TO BRING US TOGETHER AS A PLANET.

SO WHAT DO WE DO? LUCKILY. LUCKILY, OUR EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS PRODUCED A LARGE ORGAN HERE BETWEEN OUR EARS THAT MAKES SURE WE CAN ADD ONE PLUS ONE AND GET TWO.

WE AND OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD CAN ANALYZE OUR SITUATION WITH GLOBAL WARMING UNFOLDING BEFORE OUR EYES, AND WE CAN RATIONALLY FIGURE OUT THAT WE NEED TO STEP FORWARD AND PROTECT OUR GLOBAL VILLAGE.

WE CAN START RIGHT HERE BY LEAVING OUR FLAGSTAFF CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AS IT IS.

OTHERWISE, WE MOVE INTO IRRATIONAL TERRITORY BY SUPPORTING FLAGSTAFF FIRST, WITHOUT DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT THE PLANET THAT FLAGSTAFF ACTUALLY SITS ON, THAT WOULD BE ONE PLUS ONE EQUALS THREE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SOT VALERIE BRANDT AND THEN OLIVIA DUNN.

MAYOR DAGGETT CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE I CAN'T GET AN ANSWER FROM YOU.

I'VE. HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE THIS LITTLE CHEAT SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU TO FOLLOW ME AS A VOLUNTEER WITH THE CITIZENS CLIMATE LOBBY.

I AM VALERIE BRYANT.

AND BEFORE YOU TODAY, IN SUPPORT OF OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND AGAINST THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE CITY FOR 23 YEARS, AND HOPEFULLY WITH YOUR REJECTION OF THIS AMENDMENT, I CAN LIVE HERE A LOT LONGER.

MAY I PRESENT TO YOU A SIMPLE SCIENCE AND LOGIC LESSON.

PLEASE FIND YOUR VISUAL AS FOLLOWING AND FOLLOW ALONG.

THE USE OF FOSSIL FUELS OR FFA ON THE SLIDE HAS CAUSED EXCESSIVE, EXCESSIVE, HARMFUL GASEOUS EMISSIONS, CO2 AND METHANE.

MOSTLY THESE EMISSIONS HAVE THEN LED TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

THE CC, WHICH IN TURN HAS LED TO DROUGHT, HIGH TEMPERATURES AND IN TURN THIS HAS LED TO OUR CITY AND MOST OF OUR WESTERN STATES EXPERIENCING FOREST FIRES AND FLOODING, WHICH IS THE LAST FOR THREE F'S ON THE VISUAL.

AGAIN, USING YOUR VISUAL, PLEASE FOLLOW THE LOGIC.

IF WE ARE TO REDUCE THE THREAT OF FOREST FIRES ALONG WITH DROUGHT AND HIGH TEMPERATURES, WE MUST THEN ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE.

AND IF WE ARE TO REDUCE THE RISK OF CLIMATE CHANGE, WHAT MUST WE DO THEN? PLEASE CIRCLE YOUR ANSWER.

IN 1896, A STUDY BY SCIENTIST AVANT ARRHENIUS.

ARRHENIUS CONCLUDED THAT CO2 EMISSIONS CAUSED HEAT ENTRAPMENT OR GLOBAL WARMING, WHICH LED TO INCREASED TEMPERATURE CAUSING WEATHER CHANGES ON EARTH.

APPROXIMATELY 118 YEARS AND COUNTLESS SCIENTIFIC STUDIES LATER, INCLUDING OUR OWN NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY, IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER CLIMATE RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS, CONDUCTED RESEARCH ON THE SAME TOPIC AND CAME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION.

NOW IN IN 2014, PRODUCED THIS DOCUMENTARY OF ITS RESEARCH AND I WILL LOAN IT TO YOU.

IN 2020, THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF ADOPTED THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

TODAY, WE MUST KEEP OUR CARBON REDUCTION PLAN AS IS.

THERE IS NO MORE IMPORTANT PRIORITY FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF THAN TO REDUCE OUR FOSSIL FUELS EMISSIONS.

PLEASE BE AWARE OF SHEEP IN WOLF'S CLOTHING, WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING AND ADD AND DO NOT ADD THIS FLAGSTAFF FIRST VERY HARMFUL AMENDMENT TO OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

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THANK YOU.

OLIVIA. DONE.

AND THEN KAITLYN CAUGHLIN.

OKAY. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCILORS.

MY NAME IS OLIVE DUNN.

I AM A SENIOR AT NIU STUDYING ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.

I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF A LOT OF CLIMATE ACTION TEAMS IN FLAGSTAFF, INCLUDING FOSSIL FREE ARIZONA, NAZCA, FOSSIL FREE NOW, AND I'M ACTUALLY EMPLOYED BY NYU'S OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY.

I WANT TO FIRST THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING FLAGSTAFF'S CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, AND I NEED TO IMPLORE YOU TO CONTINUE DOING SO.

PLEASE DO NOT ADVANCE THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION, AS IT WOULD DIRECTLY UNDERMINE THE CNRP AND ITS GOAL TO BE CARBON NEUTRAL BY 2030.

FLAGSTAFF FIRST PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD BE REDUNDANT AND FOOLISH, AS MANY ENTITIES ALREADY PLAN AND FUND FOR FIRE, DROUGHT AND FLOOD.

THERE'S NO DENYING THAT THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS A GLOBAL MATTER, AND WE MUST DO OUR PART HERE, WHERE WE ALL LIVE, TO PREPARE FOR A LIVABLE FUTURE AND PROTECT THE LIVING WORLD WE SHARE WITH ALL PEOPLES OF THE GLOBE.

I HAVE DEDICATED THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS OF MY LIFE TO FIGHTING THE CLIMATE CRISIS, AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO SO.

BUT THE PROSPECT OF MY OWN TOWN BEING SWAYED BY NOTIONS OF SELFISHNESS AND WHAT I BELIEVE IS ACTUALLY CLIMATE CHANGE DENIAL IS HEARTBREAKING, GIVES ME LITTLE HOPE FOR THE FUTURE.

PLEASE REJECT THE REQUEST EMBODIED IN THE PETITION AS IT IS BASED ON FAULTY AND IN FACT, IMMORAL THINKING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

TALIN KALLEN AND THEN MARK JAMES.

HI. THANK YOU FOR SEEING ME.

THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS EILEEN KAWLIN AND I'M A WRITER AND A LOCAL DJ.

THIS IS AND CAN BE AN EXCITING TIME IN FLAGSTAFF'S HISTORY, BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT ALL DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

RIGHT NOW, AT THIS VERY MOMENT IN TIME, THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND COCONINO COUNTY ARE WORKING TOGETHER ON REGIONAL AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT SEEMS PRUDENT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL NOT TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS BEFORE THAT PLAN IS FINISHED.

THE CURRENT PETITION FROM FLAGSTAFF FIRST CALLS FOR DISMANTLING THE CARBON NEUTRAL PLAN THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED IN 2020. IF THE COUNCIL ADOPTS THE PLAN OF ACTION THE PETITION PUTS FORWARD, IT WILL BE CONTRADICTING ITS OWN GOALS AND WILL BE OPERATING WITHOUT ALL THE INFORMATION NEEDED TO GO FORWARD.

CITIES NEED AN ECONOMY TO FUNCTION.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE MUST REALIZE THAT, ACCORDING TO THE UN, CITIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT 75% OF THE WORLD'S ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND OVER 70% OF THE GLOBAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.

THEREFORE, IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT CITY LEADERSHIP USE ITS GREEN MATERIAL AND CONSTRUCTS ENERGY EFFICIENT, RESILIENT BUILDINGS POWERED BY RENEWABLE ENERGY TO ACHIEVE NET ZERO EMISSIONS BY 2050.

MANY CITIES AND TOWNS ACROSS THE GLOBE HAVE RISEN TO THE CHALLENGE AND SET GOALS FOR CLIMATE NEUTRALITY BY 2030, FLAGSTAFF INCLUDED.

BUT IN ORDER TO MEET THOSE GOALS, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE PLAN BE DRAWING UP GOALS DOES NO GOOD IF THEY ARE NOT PUT INTO PRACTICE. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT INVESTING IN A SUSTAINABLE AND GREEN ECONOMY IS NOT ONLY POSSIBLE, BUT GENERATES REVENUE.

GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE IS A COST EFFECTIVE APPROACH TO IMPROVE WATER QUALITY AND HELP COMMUNITIES STRETCH THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS FURTHER BY PROVIDING ENVIRONMENTAL, ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS.

ALSO KNOWN AS THE TRIPLE BOTTOM LINE, GREEN BUILDING IS A SMART FINANCIAL MOVE AS IT SAVES ENERGY, REDUCES COST, USES LESS WATER, AND CREATES HEALTHIER WORK ENVIRONMENTS.

A SIDE BENEFIT OF THAT IS WHEN WORKERS AT AT A JOB FEEL HEALTHIER, THEIR PRODUCTIVITY HAS BEEN SHOWN TO INCREASE, THEREBY CREATING A BETTER PROFIT FOR THE CITY OR THE COMPANY.

GREEN ROOFS, SOLAR PANELS, ENERGY EFFICIENT MACHINES.

THESE ARE THE WAY FOR.

THANK YOU FOR MEETING THAT CHALLENGE.

PLEASE STEP UP.

THANK YOU, MARK JAMES AND THEN MEGAN QUINN.

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MY NAME IS MARK JAMES.

I'M A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND AND AM PROUD TO BE SO.

AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK FOR THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

WE ARE ALL WELL AWARE OF THE MANY CONSEQUENCES OF GLOBAL WARMING.

IT IS DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE WILLFULLY DENYING SOMETHING OF SUCH DEVASTATING IMPLICATIONS AND REAL TIME CONSEQUENCES IN OUR OWN BACKYARD OR ON OUR PLANET EARTH.

WE NORMALIZE WHAT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR OWN BUBBLE AND NOT QUITE IN OUR LIVING ROOM.

HOW CLOSE DOES IT NEED TO BE BEFORE WE ARE COMPELLED TO ACT IN A CONSEQUENTIAL WAY? WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE EFFECTS OF GLOBAL WARMING RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.

DEVASTATING IMPACTS WILL SURELY CONTINUE WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT ACTION.

WE ARE COMPELLED TO ACT BOLDLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR THOSE THAT WE CAN IMPACT.

THIS COUNCIL AND THIS COMMUNITY HAVE IDENTIFIED JUST SUCH AN ACTION PLAN.

WE NOW HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF BECOMING A MODEL FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES, COMMUNITIES TO FOLLOW, TO EMBRACE OUR ASPIRATIONS FOR A LIVABLE PLANET, BOTH FOR OURSELVES AND FOR OTHERS FAR AND WIDE.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT BY OURSELVES WE CANNOT REVERSE GLOBAL WARMING, BUT BY ACTING WHERE WE ARE ABLE, WE CAN DEMONSTRATE THE ACTIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE OUR CLOSEST NEIGHBORS TAKE THE COURAGE TO EMBRACE, THEN THEIR NEIGHBORS AND ONWARD.

LET US BE BOLD AND LEAD TO WHERE WE WOULD HAVE OTHERS FOLLOW.

THE ALTERNATIVE IS SIMPLY NOT ACCEPTABLE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MEGAN QUINN AND THEN MARLENE COMBS.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS MEGAN AND I'M A GRADUATE STUDENT HERE AT NIU PERFORMING RESEARCH ON SCIENCE COMMUNICATION AND WILDFIRE.

WHEN I MOVED TO FLAGSTAFF, I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO MOUNTAIN BIKE.

HOWEVER, THE EXPERIENCE WAS NOT THE HAPPY THRILL I WAS EXPECTING WHEN I BIKED THROUGH THE TWISTED SISTERS TRAIL IN THE SAN FRANCISCO PEAKS, MY HEAD AND HEART TWISTED IN PAIN.

I WAS BIKING THROUGH THE PIPELINE FIRE SCAR, THE ASHEN TREES CREAKING WITH THE WIND AND DEAD PINE NEEDLES CASCADING TO THE FOREST FLOOR. SEEING SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, WIPED OF ALL LIFE.

CREATED A MEMORY FOREVER POUNDING IN MY HEAD.

FOR MY SUMMER JOB, I ALSO WORKED A LOT OUTSIDE.

I WORKED ON A RESEARCH FIELD CREW TRAVELING THROUGHOUT ARIZONA TO SURVEY EMORY OAK TREES.

HAVING THE EXTREME HEAT WARNING POP UP ON MY PHONE WAS JUST ANOTHER PUNCH IN THE GUT.

AS I HIKED IN THE BEATING SUN IN THE 100 PLUS DEGREE HEAT.

THE POUNDING, EXHAUSTION, HEADACHE BARELY LEAVING ROOM IN MY BRAIN TO WONDER IF I WOULD HAVE THE ENERGY TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE DAY.

THIS FOREVER NAGGING HEADACHE OF CLIMATE CHANGE IS AFFECTING EVERY PART OF OUR LIVES.

IN FLAGSTAFF, MY SCIENCE RESEARCH, HOUSING, SMALL BUSINESSES, OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, WATER AVAILABILITY, FLOODING AND MUCH MORE, THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION WANTS TO POUR EXTRA MONEY INTO ADDRESSING THESE SYMPTOMS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

ATTEMPT TO USE PILLS OF IBUPROFEN TO MASK THE SYMPTOMS. IF SOMEONE HAD CHRONIC HEADACHES, HOWEVER, WOULDN'T THEY RATHER GO TO THE DOCTOR TO ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSE? THE GOOD NEWS IS, THOUGH, THAT WE HAVE A WAY TO ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR SUPPORTING THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

NOW LET'S TAKE THIS IMAGINARY PERSON WITH CHRONIC HEADACHES.

LET'S SAY A DOCTOR DISCOVERS THAT STRESS IS CAUSING THE HEADACHES.

ADDRESSING THIS ROOT ISSUE WILL NOT ONLY SOLVE THE HEADACHE PROBLEM, BUT IT WILL ALSO BRING ABOUT OTHER BENEFITS SUCH AS POSSIBLY IMPROVED SLEEP QUALITY OR INCREASED ENERGY LEVELS. IT'S THE SAME WITH ADDRESSING CLIMATE CHANGE.

NOT ONLY WILL THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AS IT IS HELP MITIGATE CLIMATE CHANGE, BUT IT ALSO HAS OTHER BENEFITS IN THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING MEASURES CONTRIBUTING TO LESS INTENSE FIRES, DROUGHTS AND FLOODING, AND ALLOWING FLAGSTAFF TO BE A LEADER FOR A MODEL FOR OTHER CITIES TO FOLLOW.

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I HOPE THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN WITHOUT THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MOLINE COMBS AND THEN TED MARTINEZ.

THANK YOU. AND GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

MY NAME IS MARLENE.

I'M UNHOUSED AND I LIVE IN MY VAN HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

AND I CAN ASSURE ALL MY LISTENERS TODAY THAT WHAT I PROPOSE WILL NOT INCREASE CARBON.

FIVE. STATISTICALLY, FIVE UNHOUSED PEOPLE WILL FREEZE TO DEATH ON THE STREETS FROM COLD THIS WINTER.

IF THOSE FIVE WERE NIU STUDENTS, WE WOULD PRIORITIZE IT EVEN BETTER IF THEY WERE WHITE.

THE LANTERN IS A POSITIVE STEP AND HOUSING IS NEEDED, BUT ON ITS OWN IT WILL NOT SAVE THE FIVE PEOPLE WE KNOW WILL DIE THIS WINTER.

I KNOW THIS BECAUSE THE STREETS HAVE BEEN MY HOME FOR OVER TEN YEARS.

I LOVE AND I UNDERSTAND MY HOME AND I KNOW HOW TO KEEP MYSELF SAFE.

I ALSO KNOW THIS BECAUSE I SPEAK WITH PEOPLE, AND THEY TELL ME HOW THE ANTI-CAMPING ORDINANCE THAT YOU MAINTAIN MAKES THEM AFRAID TO SEEK HELP WHEN THEY NEED IT.

THIS IS JUST ONE WAY.

THE ANTI-CAMPING ORDINANCE IS A DIRECT REASON WHY PEOPLE DIE ON THE STREETS.

I EVEN FOUND MYSELF WORRIED.

LAST WEEK I WAS WATCHING A WOMAN I KNOW IS PSYCHOTIC.

I KNEW SHE NEEDED HELP.

IT WAS COLD. IT WAS DARK, AND I WAS AFRAID TO CALL HER FOR HELP BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE POLICE WOULD DO TO ME.

IT'S OVER A MONTH AGO I LAST SPOKE TO YOU.

AND WHILE I'M SURE YOU KNOW THE NUMBER FIVE, THERE HAS BEEN ZERO EFFORT TO ENGAGE ME IN CONVERSATION WHILE YOU ARE BUSY WITH IMPORTANT DOINGS.

FIVE PEOPLE WILL DIE THIS WINTER, NO DOUBT.

WHEN IT HAPPENS, YOU WILL OFFER THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS.

THE FIVE PEOPLE THAT WILL DIE THIS WINTER WILL BE SACRIFICED ON THE ALTAR OF GOOD INTENTIONS AND NO ACTION.

BUT AT LEAST YOUR RICH FRIEND WHO SOLD YOU THAT MOTEL SIX AND THEN PURCHASED TWO OTHER HOTELS RIGHT AFTER WILL NOT HAVE TO LOOK AT THE RESULTS OF POVERTY.

UNLUCKY. LANE.

YOU HAVE MY CONTACT INFORMATION IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND IF YOU DON'T, I SWEAR ON MY LADY FRERE AND MY PRINCE FRERE, BOTH OF WHOM I HAVE SWORN A SACRED OATH TO MY VOICE, MY WORDS AND MY RESOURCES WILL BE USED TO KEEP YOU ACCOUNTABLE.

I SUGGEST A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE FIVE PEOPLE SACRIFICED ON GOOD INTENTIONS AND INACTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TED MARTINEZ AND JORDAN DAY AND JORDAN DIMEO.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SUPPORT OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ADOPTING THAT.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MENTIONED PETITION BY FLAGSTAFF.

FIRST, UM, I'M A FACULTY MEMBER AT NIU.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WHO I WAS.

UM, AND, UM, LET'S SEE.

SO TAKING A QUICK LOOK AT THE MATERIAL FROM FLAGSTAFF FIRST, IT WAS PRETTY EASY FOR ME TO DEDUCE THAT THE GROUP WAS ANTI-SCIENCE AND ANTI-GOVERNMENT.

AND IF YOU'RE WONDERING HOW I COULD SO QUICKLY DETERMINE THAT THEY WERE ANTI-SCIENCE, I ASKED MYSELF THE SAME QUESTION.

HOW DID I DETERMINE THAT? AND THE ANSWER THAT I CAME UP WITH IS THAT THEY ADOPT A I KNOW BETTER ATTITUDE, AND THAT IS WHAT TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE ANTI-SCIENCE.

WHEN I THINK WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL COMES OUT AND SAYS I KNOW BETTER, THEY ARE FORGETTING THAT SCIENCE IS A COMMUNITY ITSELF.

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SO WHEN I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL OR A SMALL SUBSET THAT SAYS I KNOW BETTER, IT TELLS ME THAT THEY'RE NOT ACCEPTING OR ACKNOWLEDGING THE AVAILABLE INFORMATION. AND I THINK THAT GOES TO SAME WHEN WE DISCOVER ANTI-GOVERNMENT SENTIMENTS.

THEY'RE SAYING, I KNOW BETTER.

AND I BELIEVE THAT GOVERNMENT WORKS BEST LIKE SCIENCE AS A COMMUNITY, WHEN IT'S INFORMED BY A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING SCIENCE AND DOING GOOD GOVERNMENT.

SO THAT WAS THE CONCLUSION I CAME TO AFTER READING, UM, THE MATERIALS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE A SCIENCE COMMUNITY IN THAT WE'RE A STEM COMMUNITY, A DARK SKIES COMMUNITY.

I BELIEVE THAT WE VALUE, UM, SCIENCE.

AND I ALSO FEEL THAT THE EVIDENCE FOR CLIMATE CHANGE IS EMPIRICAL AT THIS POINT.

IT'S EVEN ESCAPED THE COMMUNITY OF SCIENCE.

IT'S EMPIRICAL SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND SO I THINK, UM, LASTLY, I'LL JUST CONCLUDE BY SAYING THAT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS AND THIS DECISION AND THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS JUST TODAY OR TOMORROW OR OF ONE VOTE.

I THINK THE EVIDENCE IS SHOWING WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH THIS FOR THE NEXT 26 YEARS.

SO I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT 25 TO 30 YEARS ON THIS.

SO I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

AND IT'S NOT JUST ONE DAY, IT'S NOT ONE DECISION.

WE'RE GOING TO BE ALL TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT 25, 30 YEARS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU, JORDAN DIMEO AND THEN GWEN WARING.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JORDAN DEMAYO AND I HAVE BEEN AN ARIZONA RESIDENT MY WHOLE LIFE, AND I AM CURRENTLY PURSUING A DEGREE IN ENVIRONMENTAL AND SUSTAINABILITY STUDIES AT NIU.

PLEASE EXCUSE MY NERVOUSNESS.

I'D FIRST LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR MAKING FLAGSTAFF A WONDERFUL CITY.

MY FIRST FOUR MONTHS HERE HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLE, AND I THANK YOU FOR THE MANY STEPS YOU HAVE TAKEN TOWARDS SUSTAINABILITY.

I BELIEVE EVERYONE HERE HAS SAID IT MUCH BETTER THAN ME, BUT KEEPING THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE HAD CLEAR EVIDENCE FROM COUNTLESS SCIENTISTS THAT THE CLIMATE IS CHANGING AND THAT WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION.

IF CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT REAL, WHY ARE ALL OF MY COURSES I'M TAKING SAYING THAT IT IS.

IF CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT REAL, WHY DO I HAVE THIS BOOK GOING INTO INCREDIBLE DETAIL ON THE MATHEMATICS AND SCIENCE BEHIND IT? IF CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT REAL, WHY AM I GOING TO A CLASSROOM AT 12:30 P.M.

TOMORROW TAKING AN EXAM IN A CLIMATE CHANGE CLASS? WHY DO I HAVE A NOTEBOOK FULL OF NOTES FROM SAID CLIMATE CHANGE CLASS THAT I'VE BEEN GOING TO TWICE A WEEK FOR FOUR MONTHS? WHY DID ONE OF MY ASSIGNMENTS IN THAT CLASS HAVE THE CAPTION AND I QUOTE.

THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE DESCRIBED IN THE VIDEO CAN BE OVERWHELMING AND DEPRESSING.

WHY IS IT THAT AT THE END OF MY LECTURES, NOT JUST IN MY CLIMATE CHANGE CLASS, WE HAD TO END IT WITH THE NOTE? SORRY, THIS WAS A DEPRESSING LESSON.

KEEPING A CARBON NEUTRAL STATUS COULD GET RID OF THESE.

WHY? QUESTIONS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

THE DAY I REALIZED HOW IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE WAS WAS THE FIRST DAY OF CLASS IN ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, WHEN MY PROFESSOR ASKED THE QUESTION, WHO IS SCARED? IN THAT ROOM THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY 80 PEOPLE, ALL ABOUT THE SAME AGE AS ME.

ALL 80 PEOPLE IN THAT ROOM RAISED THEIR HAND.

OUR GENERATION MAY NOT WANT TO ADMIT IT SOMETIMES, BUT WE ARE SCARED.

THAT IS WHY ME AND MANY OTHERS IN THE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM ARE IN THE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM.

WE ARE TIRED OF BEING SCARED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

GWEN WARING AND THEN CHERRY SMITH.

I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS TOO.

I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH THIS COMMUNITY AND THESE THOUGHTS AND THIS TURNOUT, AND I HOPE YOU'RE GETTING IT AS WELL ANYWAY.

DEAR FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL.

GOOD AFTERNOON, AND THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY REGARDING THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO CARBON NEUTRALITY.

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AS DAUNTING A CHALLENGE AS IT IS, THERE'S REALLY NOWHERE ELSE TO GO AT THIS POINT.

AS WE CLOSE IN ON THE WARMEST YEAR IN RECORDED HISTORY.

WHILE SOME ADVOCATE THAT WE DO NOTHING, THAT OPTION IS CLOSED.

YOU COULD ARGUE THAT THAT'S ALL WE'VE DONE FOR DECADES UPON DECADES, CONSUMING RESOURCES LIKE UTTER PIGS WITH NO REGARD FOR ANY OF ITS IMPACTS. ADVOCATE.

WELL FORGET THAT, OKAY? IT'S INSPIRING TO SEE THE WAY MUCH OF THE WORLD IS WAKING UP, WAKING UP TO ADDRESSING CLIMATE WARMING, THE CREATION AND SALE OF ELECTRIC CARS, TRAINS, TRUCKS AND EVEN SHIPS AND PLANES PROVIDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO POWER THEM IN THIS COUNTRY.

THE EFFORTS OF INDUSTRY TO TAKE ON ITS CARBON POLLUTION IN WAYS NEVER DREAMED OF BEFORE.

WE'RE KIND OF LIKE A BIG, FAT SHIP THAT TAKES TIME AND EFFORT TO ADJUST COURSE, THOUGH THERE REALLY ISN'T MUCH TIME.

THERE WAS A GREAT ARTICLE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES MAGAZINE RECENTLY ABOUT HOW INDUSTRY IN AMERICA IS BEGINNING TO CHANGE THE PRODUCTION OF CEMENT, A MAJOR POLLUTING PROCESS, IS BEING REVISED TO BE LESS WASTEFUL AND POLLUTING.

EVEN THE PRODUCTION OF STUFF LIKE CARPETING IS BEING CHANGED TO RELEASE LESS CARBON.

CERTAINLY THE SHIFT TO ELECTRIC MOTORS AND CARS, TRAINS, PLANES AND ALL AND ALL KINDS OF APPLIANCES IS, IN AND OF ITSELF PROFOUNDLY IMPORTANT. CONSIDER THAT ELECTRIC MOTORS CONVERT 80% OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY INTO MECHANICAL ENERGY OR MOTION.

COMPARED TO LESS THAN 40% IN A GAS COMBUSTION COMBUSTION ENGINE.

TALK ABOUT INCREASED EFFICIENCY.

I MEAN, RIGHT, THERE IS SOMETHING WE'RE TAKING ON TO EFFECT A REDUCTION IN CARBON OUTPUT RIGHT NOW.

HATS OFF TO OUR HYBRID BUSSES AND HOPEFULLY AN ELECTRIC BUS SOMEDAY.

WILL IT BE EXPENSIVE? ABSOLUTELY. SIGNIFICANTLY RISING.

REVISING THE WAY THE WORLD RUNS REQUIRES A MAJOR INVESTMENT.

I KNOW MANY OF YOUR EFFORTS ARE BEING SUPPORTED BY GRANTS FROM WASHINGTON.

THIS WILL BE OUR GREATEST CHALLENGE AS A SPECIES, I THINK.

AND HOW EXCITING IF WE CAN RISE TO IT.

IT'S A TERRIFYING TIME AND A VERY INSPIRING ONE, BRINGING OUT THE BRILLIANCE AND CREATIVITY OF THE HUMAN MIND TO ACCOMPLISH GOOD.

AS AS ONE OF THE GREATEST PRODUCERS OF CARBON EMISSIONS.

WE ARE BEHOLDEN TO CHANGE THIS AND DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO LEAD THE WAY AS WE HAVE THROUGH HISTORY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CHERRY SMITH AND THEN JILL STEVENSON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR DAGGETT.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, THANKS FOR SUPPORTING THE CARBON NEUTRAL PLAN IN THE PAST AND FOR LETTING ME SPEAK ABOUT IT TODAY.

I'M DOCTOR SHERRY SMITH.

I'M A RETIRED LOCAL OBGYN AND A VOLUNTEER FOR NORTHERN ARIZONA CLIMATE CHANGE LIONS.

IN 2004, I BROUGHT MY FAMILY TO FLAGSTAFF BECAUSE I WANTED TO RAISE MY DAUGHTER IN A CITY THAT RESPECTS ELECTIONS, POLITICAL DISCOURSE, SCIENCE AND FACTS.

I WANTED HER TO GET AN APPRECIATION OF NATURE AND CLEAN AIR.

NOW A GRADUATE OF NIU IN HER 30S, SHE'S A SCIENTIST ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF GENETICS.

BUT STILL, I WORRY FOR HER.

THIS CITY IS POPULATED BY HER GENERATION.

LIKE I HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY DAUGHTER TO MAKE SURE HER FUTURE IS AS GOOD AS IT POSSIBLY CAN BE.

YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HER GENERATION.

ALREADY, WE ARE SEEING CLIMATE CHANGE CUT BACK ON RESOURCES AND MAKE THE WEATHER MORE VOLATILE.

THAT MEANS OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WILL NOT BE BLESSED WITH THE SAME ABUNDANCE THAT WE WERE ALLOWED TO SQUANDER.

EVERY GENERATION SACRIFICES FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

YOUR PARENTS SACRIFICED FOR YOU.

I DON'T THINK I COULD FACE MY DAUGHTER IF I HADN'T COME HERE TODAY TO FIGHT FOR HER BIRTHRIGHT.

I'M HOPING YOU FEEL THE SAME ABOUT SOMEONE IN YOUR IN HER GENERATION.

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AND PULL OUR SHARE OF THE SACRIFICE NEEDED TO KEEP THE CARBON NEUTRAL PLAN AS WRITTEN.

THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT.

THANK YOU.

JILL STEVENSON AND THEN AMY WOLKOWYSKI.

GREETINGS, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL AND FELLOW CITIZENS.

MY NAME IS JILL STEVENSON.

I AM A MEMBER OF NORTHERN ARIZONA CLIMATE CHANGE ALLIANCE, NAZCA.

I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS CLIMATE EMERGENCY WE ARE IN.

COP, 28, HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE CANNOT RELY ON WORLD LEADERS TO ACT WISELY AND QUICKLY ENOUGH TO EFFECTIVELY MITIGATE CLIMATE CHANGE. IT IS UP TO ALL OF US TO ADDRESS THE RESULTING PROBLEMS IN OUR DAILY LIVES.

EVERY SMALL CHANGE HELPS.

EVERY BIT WE EMIT MATTERS.

FLAGSTAFF CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, CRAFTED BY THOUSANDS OF CITIZENS, CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL, WAS ADOPTED IN 2020 AFTER OVER A YEAR OF HARD WORK.

A FEW CHANGES RECOMMENDED BY STAFF WERE ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL IN 2022.

THE CNP IS PART OF THE FLAGSTAFF'S REGIONAL PLAN, HELPING TO GUIDE COCONINO COUNTY IN ITS REGIONAL PLANNING FOR OTHER CITIES AND FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

ANY LESSENING OF THE FACILITATION OF THE CNP WOULD BE DISASTROUS FOR OUR CLIMATE.

PLEASE DO NOT CONSIDER PROPOSALS FROM A CLIMATE DENYING GROUP THAT WOULD TAKE ENORMOUS RESOURCES AWAY FROM THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

INSTEAD, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE FUTURE WE ARE LEAVING FOR ALL OUR CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN AND ALL OTHER LIFE FORMS ON EARTH.

HOW MANY MORE SPECIES CAN WE SEND TO EXTINCTION BEFORE ENTIRE ECOSYSTEMS COLLAPSE? FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, THE EARTH'S BIOMES HAVE BEEN AMAZINGLY WELL BALANCED.

THEN WE HUMANS CHANGED OUR AGRICULTURAL PRACTICES, BECAME OVERLY DEPENDENT ON USING FOSSIL FUELS, CLEAR CUT AND BURNED HUGE TRACKS OF CARBON ABSORBING FORESTS, COMPLACENTLY WASTED FOOD AND WATER, OVERPOPULATED, AND TOOK FOR GRANTED OUR PLANET'S BOUNTY AND BALANCE.

WE HAVE CAUSED THIS CLIMATE EMERGENCY.

IT IS UP TO ALL OF US TO RESTORE THE BALANCE.

EVEN ON A SMALL SCALE, ONE PERSON OR CITY OR COUNTY WE CAN SLOW.

THE CHANGE IS IF WE ALL WORK TOGETHER, EACH DOING OUR SHARE.

WE HAVE THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN TO SHOW THE WAY TO A BETTER PATH BY 2030, TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL. PLEASE DO NOT DO ANYTHING TO LESSEN THE IMPACT OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU AMY AND THEN BILL DUNNETT.

HELLO, MAYOR DAGGETT, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FELLOW MEMBERS OF THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY.

I'M AN ENVIRONMENTAL GEOLOGIST WITH A BREADTH OF EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD.

I'VE OVERSEEN SOIL AND GROUNDWATER CLEANUP INITIATIVES ACROSS THE STATE, HELD POSITIONS ADMINISTERING AND TEACHING IN EARTH SCIENCE AND SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAMS AT NIU, AND WORKED AS AN EXPLORATION GEOLOGIST IN BIG OIL.

OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, MY FOCUS HAS SHIFTED TOWARDS SCIENCE, DATA AND POLICY AIMED DIRECTLY AT SUPPORTING CLIMATE ACTION.

I'VE LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS AND I SERVE ON THE FLAGSTAFF SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION.

I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ADDRESS OUR CITY'S COMMITMENT TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE COUNCIL TO NOT ADVANCE THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION, AS DOING SO WOULD JEOPARDIZE THE EFFICACY OF OUR CNP.

I SUPPORT THE CMP AND ITS CURRENT FORM BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS OUR LOCAL INSTRUCTION MANUAL FOR MITIGATING THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

LET US RECOGNIZE THE HARD WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PLAN, AND THE POTENTIAL IT HOLDS FOR OUR COMMUNITY'S SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.

THE PETITION BEFORE THE COUNCIL ARGUES THAT THREATS TO OUR COMMUNITY IDENTIFIED IN THE 2018 CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN, SPECIFICALLY WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT, ARE NOT GIVEN PRIORITY STATUS IN THE CMP.

LAST DECEMBER, WHEN THE CITY CONSOLIDATED THE 2018 CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN WITH THE CMP, SIX NEW PRIORITY TARGET AREAS WERE ADDED AND THREE OF THEM INCLUDE MITIGATION AND ADAPTATION MEASURES FOCUSED ON WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT.

SPECIFICALLY, THOSE NEW TARGET AREAS ARE HEALTHY FORESTS AND OPEN SPACES, HEALTH AND SAFETY, AND WATER SECURITY.

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THE CMP ADVOCATES FOR CLOSE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL, TRIBAL, NONPROFIT AND PRIVATE PARTNERS TO EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS THESE CHALLENGES.

I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT THE PERCEIVED TRADE OFF BETWEEN ADDRESSING OUR CITY'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS AND THE CMP.

HOWEVER, I'D LIKE THE COUNCIL TO RECOGNIZE THAT ONE.

THESE ISSUES ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, AND TWO, THE UPDATED CMP IS ALIGNED WITH FLAGSTAFF'S TEN YEAR HOUSING PLAN, WHICH WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY THE HOUSING COMMISSION IN JANUARY 2022 AND THEN UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED BY THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY 2022.

IN CLOSING, I'M PROUD TO BE A RESIDENT OF A CITY THAT IS TAKING A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN THE FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE.

OUR ACTIONS RESONATE LOCALLY, REGIONALLY AND GLOBALLY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR DAGGETT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.

THANK YOU BILL DUNNETT AND THEN TROY LEAVITT.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR, TOWN COUNCIL.

YOU ARE ALL BUSY FOLKS, AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ALL OF US TODAY.

I'M SURE IT'S OFTEN A THANKLESS JOB THAT YOU DO AND YOUR SERVICE IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.

MY NAME IS BILL DUNNETT AND I AM A FLAGSTAFF RESIDENT.

I MOVED HERE IN 2010 FROM CANADA AND I'M VERY PROUD OF MY NEW HOME.

I'M PROUD OF THE GROUNDBREAKING MINIMUM WAGE INITIATIVES THAT THIS CITY HAS TAKEN.

I'M PROUD THAT FLAGSTAFF WAS THE VERY FIRST DARK SKY CITY.

I'M PROUD OF THE STEPS THAT FLAGSTAFF HAS TAKEN TOWARDS BIKE LANES AND MAKING IT A MORE WALKABLE CITY.

FLAGSTAFF, IN MY MIND, HAS ALWAYS BEEN A LEADER, BOTH HERE IN ARIZONA AND THROUGHOUT THE US.

AND THE CLIMATE NEUTRALITY PLAN IS JUST SUCH AN INITIATIVE.

IT'S AN OUTSTANDING PLAN AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO COMBAT THE CLIMATE CRISIS.

IT IS ABSOLUTELY THE DEFINITION OF THINKING GLOBALLY AND ACTING LOCALLY.

THE WE ARE IN A WORLDWIDE CLIMATE CRISIS.

THE MAJORITY OF CLIMATE EXPERTS, A CLEAR MAJORITY, TELL US THIS.

AND THE WORDS OF COUNCILOR HOUSE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS SESSION ABOUT RESPECTING THE LAND AND THE PEOPLE WHO CAME BEFORE US REALLY RESONATES WITH ME.

AND WE DO OWE A BETTER WORLD BOTH TO THEM AND TO OUR CHILDREN.

PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE OR WATER DOWN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

IT'S A GOOD PLAN AND FLAGSTAFF SHOULD BE COMMENDED ON ITS VISION.

HISTORY WILL JUDGE US ALL ON HOW WE DEAL WITH THIS CLIMATE CRISIS.

PLEASE DON'T AMEND THE CNP.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

TROY LEAVITT AND THEN MALCOLM CALDER.

HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS TROY LEAVITT.

I AM A RETIRED EMERGENCY MEDICINE PHYSICIAN WHO HAS BEEN IN NORTHERN ARIZONA SINCE 1998 WORKING FOR THE IHS.

AND I CANNOT MATCH ANY OF THESE OTHER SCIENCE PROFESSIONALS SPEAKING ON CLIMATE CHANGE.

BUT AS A SCIENTIFIC PERSON, I TRUST THE SCIENCE AND THE SCIENCE IS CLEAR, AND I AM PROUD TO BE LIVING IN A CITY THAT WAS BRAVE ENOUGH TO ADOPT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AS IT IS WRITTEN, AND I JUST WANTED TO GO ON THE RECORD SUPPORTING THE ORIGINAL, UH, CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

WITHOUT ANY CHANGES TO IT.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MALCOLM CALDER AND THEN SUSAN ROSE.

WHEN ALL THE MEMBERS OF A LABOR UNION PAY THEIR DUES, THE UNION IS ABLE TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF ALL MEMBERS TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL MEMBERS.

SO-CALLED RIGHT TO WORK LAWS PRESERVE THE RIGHTS OF ALL WORKERS TO ENJOY THE FULL BENEFITS OF UNION MEMBERSHIP, BUT MAKE PAYING UNION DUES OPTIONAL FOR EACH WORKER.

A BETTER NAME WOULD BE RIGHT TO FREELOAD LAWS.

BUT THEIR PURPOSE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PREROGATIVES OF WORKERS TO WORK OR TO FREELOAD ON UNION BENEFITS WITHOUT PAYING FOR THEM.

THE PURPOSE IS TO CRIPPLE THE ABILITY OF UNIONS TO GATHER THE FUNDS THEY NEED TO BE EFFECTIVE, AND ULTIMATELY TO SURVIVE.

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EXCUSE ME. THERE. BY THE REMOVAL OF UNION REPRESENTATION FROM ALL I'VE READ AND LISTENED TO.

I DON'T GET THAT FLAGSTAFF FIRST EXPLICITLY DENIES THE CLIMATE CRISIS, AND THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE FINANCED BY OR UNDER DIRECT CONTROL OF THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY.

WHICH IS, TO BE SURE, MANIFESTLY OBSESSED WITH EVER MORE EFFICIENTLY EXTRACTING EVER GREATER PROFITS FROM EVER MORE POWERLESS POPULACE.

BUT FLAGSTAFF FIRST ARGUMENTS AGAINST THE CNP FUNCTION EXACTLY THE SAME AS IF THEY WERE A FOSSIL FUEL FRONT GROUP.

THEY DON'T EXPLICITLY CALL FOR UNRESTRAINED FOSSIL FUEL FOSSIL PROFITEERING OR FOR THE COLLATERAL SABOTAGE OF GLOBAL SYSTEMS, BUT OUR ATTENTION SHOULD BE ON HOW THEIR ARGUMENTS ACTUALLY FUNCTION AND NOT ON THEIR PUBLIC RELATIONS RHETORIC.

THEY FUNCTION AS FREELOADERS.

ARGUMENTS. ARGUMENTS FOR NONPAYMENT OF DUES.

IN EFFECT, LET CHINA AND INDIA AND RUSSIA TAKE THE LEAD ON FULFILLING THE GOALS OF THE PARIS AGREEMENT, WHILE WE DITHER AND MAKE EXCUSES AND SEE HOW IT GOES.

NO MENTION OF THE POSSIBILITY THAT COMMUNITIES LIKE FLAGSTAFF MIGHT TAKE A LEADERSHIP ROLE AS INCREASINGLY, COMMUNITIES ARE DOING.

THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST WEBSITE ARGUES AGAINST ACTION ON THE GROUNDS THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TRACE MANY CLEAR LINES CAUSALLY CONNECTING SPECIFIC LOCAL ACTIONS WITH SPECIFIC LOCAL BENEFITS, WHICH DA.

THE LOCAL CLIMATE IS NOT AN ISOLATED AND CLOSED SYSTEM.

THAT WOULD BE LIKE A WORKER REFUSING TO PAY UNION DUES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DRAW A SPECIFIC CAUSAL CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE SPECIFIC DOLLARS THEY PAY IN AND THE SPECIFIC BENEFITS THEY RECEIVE THE WAY A SPECIFIC DOLLAR BUYS A SPECIFIC PIECE OF CANDY.

OF COURSE, IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.

WE CAN'T AND SHOULDN'T TREAT IT LIKE A SERIOUS ARGUMENT.

TOM PEARSON AND SARIKA CERNOHORSKY OF FLAGSTAFF FIRST CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED THE TWO PRONGS OF ANY SOLUTION TO ATMOSPHERIC CARBON DIOXIDE ONE REDUCE EMISSIONS INTO THE ATMOSPHERE AND TWO REMOVE IT FROM THE ATMOSPHERE.

SO FAR, SO GOOD.

BUT THEN THEY REVEALED THEMSELVES TO BE JOKING WHEN THEY ARGUED THAT SINCE PONDEROSA PINES, LIKE ALL GREEN PLANTS, REMOVE CO2 FROM THE ATMOSPHERE, THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS PRACTICALLY CARBON NEUTRAL ALREADY AND SO IS JUSTIFIED IN IGNORING EMISSIONS.

IT'S NOT A SERIOUS ARGUMENT, AND WE SHOULD NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

SUSAN ROSE AND THEN PAT ELLSWORTH.

HELLO AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ALL OF US.

MY NAME IS SUSAN ROSE.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF FLAGSTAFF FOR 17 YEARS.

I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND TO BE FRANK, I'M SCARED.

I'M SCARED FOR ME, MY FAMILY, MY FRIENDS, FOR FLAGSTAFF, FOR ALL HUMANITY AND ALL LIFE ON EARTH.

IT'S URGENT THAT WE DO ALL WE CAN TO REDUCE OUR EMISSIONS.

AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT FLAGSTAFF HAS A CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

AND I JUST REALLY URGE YOU TO KEEP OUR PLAN AS IS AND DON'T MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PAT ELLSWORTH AND THEN PAUL BEYER.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT YOU EXPEND FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS.

I AM SURE SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE A THANKLESS JOB.

MY NAME IS PAT ELLSWORTH.

I'M A NATIVE OF ARIZONA AND I HAVE LIVED IN FLAGSTAFF SINCE 1999.

I AM RETIRED FROM NIU, HAVING WORKED 25 YEARS WITH NYU'S INSTITUTE FOR TRIBAL ENVIRONMENTAL PROFESSIONALS.

AT THE INSTITUTE, I MANAGED AN AIR QUALITY TRAINING PROGRAM FOR TRIBAL EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, INCLUDING ALASKA.

IN OUR TRAINING WORKSHOPS, PARTICIPANTS LEARNED ABOUT COMMON AIR POLLUTANTS THAT COME FROM THE BURNING OF FOSSIL FUELS.

THESE VERY COMMON POLLUTANTS ARE SULFUR DIOXIDE, OXIDES OF NITROGEN, OZONE, CARBON MONOXIDE WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS TOXIC, AND TINY PARTICULATES THAT WE INHALE DEEP INTO OUR LUNGS.

THESE AIR POLLUTANTS HAVE HUMAN HEALTH IMPACTS, ESPECIALLY ON THE HEART AND LUNGS.

PARTICIPANTS ALSO LEARNED THAT BURNING FOSSIL FUELS RELEASES CARBON DIOXIDE DIFFERENT FROM CARBON MONOXIDE.

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IN ONE OF THOSE WORKSHOPS, ABOUT A DECADE AGO, AFTER WE DISCUSSED GREENHOUSE GASES AND CLIMATE CHANGE, ONE PARTICIPANT EXPRESSED DOUBT THAT CLIMATE CHANGE WAS REAL.

WE DID NOT GET INTO AN ARGUMENT, BUT THAT EVENING I THOUGHT ABOUT HIS COMMENT QUITE A BIT.

THE NEXT DAY I ASKED THE GROUP, WHAT IF CLIMATE CHANGE ISN'T REAL? AND YET WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AND EFFORT PHASING OUT FOSSIL FUELS.

WILL ALL THAT MONEY AND EFFORT HAVE BEEN A WASTE? THE GROUP WAS SILENT FOR A MINUTE.

THEN A PERSON SPOKE UP SAYING NO, BECAUSE WE MADE THE AIR CLEANER AND WE IMPROVED PEOPLE'S HEALTH.

SO REDUCING AND PHASING OUT FOSSIL FUELS WILL ONE PROTECT THE CLIMATE AND TWO IMPROVE THE HEALTH OF PEOPLE IN FLAGSTAFF AND AROUND THE WORLD? I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MORAL OBLIGATION TO DO BOTH.

THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING FLAGSTAFF CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IN ITS CURRENT FORM.

THANK YOU PAUL BEYER.

AND THEN, UM, DORA MARX MORENO.

ALL RIGHT. PLEASED TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS PAUL BEYER.

I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF FOR 30 YEARS.

UH, HAVING HEARD ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS PEOPLE HAVE SAID, I'M GOING TO SAVE SOME OF YOUR TIME.

I HAD THREE FULL MINUTES.

BUT LET'S NOT REPEAT EVERYTHING.

I THOUGHT ONE THING THAT, UH.

SO I'VE CROSSED IT ALL OUT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S VERY LITTLE LEFT HERE.

BUT ONE THING THAT WASN'T MENTIONED, THAT PART OF WHAT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS DOING, THE ADMIRABLE WORK WE'RE DOING WITH OUR CARBON PLAN THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED YET, AS WE HELPED LAUNCH WHAT'S CALLED THE FOUR CORNERS CARBON REMOVAL COALITION, SPEARHEADED BY A FORMER CITY EMPLOYEE AND THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE.

AND I BELIEVE I SAW RAMONE HERE A COMING IN TODAY.

SO IT'S REALLY COOL.

IT'S RATHER THAN WAIT FOR BIG GOVERNMENT TO DO THE WORK.

THIS CARBON REMOVAL COALITION IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW A SMALL ENTITY OR A SMALL ENTITIES CAN WORK TOGETHER AND CREATE INNOVATIVE WAYS TO REMOVE CARBON DIOXIDE.

IT'S REALLY COOL. IT'S PART OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS WE'RE DOING HERE.

IT'S AN EXCITING WAY TO REDUCE, UH, CLIMATE CHANGE AND BRING JOBS TO THE FOUR CORNERS REGION.

LET'S KEEP AT IT.

SO I GUESS I'LL JUST GO TO THE LAST SENTENCE.

I'M A PROUD OF OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

IT'S DEALING WITH THE CAUSES OF CLIMATE CHANGE, WHICH WE NEED TO DO.

LET'S KEEP AT IT.

LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

DARA AND THEN MCKENNA MARINO.

MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIME YOU YOU DEDICATE TO MAKING FLAGSTAFF THE GREAT PLACE TO LIVE THAT IT IS.

MY NAME IS DARA MARQUES MARINO AND I'VE LIVED IN FLAGSTAFF FOR 23 YEARS.

I CURRENTLY WORK FOR A NONPROFIT THAT MAKES IT POSSIBLE TO REDUCE EMISSIONS FROM THE ELECTRICITY SECTOR.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REMIND EVERYONE OF SOME OF THE HISTORY OF HOW WE CAME TO HAVE A CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

FLAGSTAFF SUSTAINABILITY TEAM CREATED OUR FIRST CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN THAT INCLUDED IMPRESSIVE LEVELS OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND SUPPORT.

THEN, IN 2019, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GLOBAL YOUTH LED CLIMATE STRIKES, FLAGSTAFF HELD A CLIMATE STRIKE THAT WAS ATTENDED BY AN ESTIMATED 1500 PEOPLE.

A PETITION WAS CIRCULATED THAT CALLED FOR A DECLARATION.

EXCUSE ME. A PETITION WAS CIRCULATED AT THE STRIKE, CALLING FOR A DECLARATION OF A CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND ELEVATION OF THE GOALS OF THE CAP TO CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030.

THIS WAS FOLLOWED BY SEVERAL HUNDRED FLAGSTAFF CITIZENS ATTENDING A CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND MAKING NEARLY THREE HOURS OF COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF THESE TWO REQUESTS.

THE PANDEMIC BEGAN IMMEDIATELY AFTER THIS MEETING, LEADING TO A NECESSARY PAUSE IN THE VOTING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

THE CAP WAS YEARS IN THE MAKING, DEVELOPED BY EXPERTS BASED ON AN AWARD WINNING CAP, USES RIGOROUS SCIENCE AND HAS THE SUPPORT OF THE MAJORITY OF FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS.

TODAY, WE'RE WITNESSING AN ATTEMPT BY FLAGSTAFF FIRST TO UNDERMINE THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN BY USING SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

THIS IS A GROUP THAT HAS PUBLICLY STATED THEIR OPPOSITION TO ADDRESSING CLIMATE CHANGE MITIGATION.

WHILE THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THAT FIRES, FLOODS, AND DROUGHTS ARE A SERIOUS THREAT TO FLAGSTAFF, THEIR PROPOSAL TO FOCUS THE CITY'S MONEY AND ENERGY ON RESPONDING TO THESE THREATS PUTS THE CART BEFORE THE TROJAN HORSE.

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THIS IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE CAP.

RESPONDING TO FIRES AND FLOODS FALLS PRIMARILY UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF ENTITIES OUTSIDE THE CITY.

WHILE THE CITY DOES HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY, THE PRIMARY COSTS FOR THE FOREST TREATMENTS AND DISASTER RESPONSE SHOULD NOT BE BORNE BY THE CITY.

THIS WOULD BE AN EGREGIOUS MISAPPROPRIATION OF LOCAL TAXPAYER MONEY AND WOULD DETRACT FROM THE MANY OTHER PRIORITIES THE CITY HAS IDENTIFIED.

IT WOULD BE PARTICULARLY SILLY FOR THE CITY TO FUND THE, QUOTE, POSITIONING OF FIREFIGHTING AIRCRAFT AT PULLIAM DURING THE FIRE SEASON, AS FLAGSTAFF FIRST HAS PROPOSED. I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL IS WELCOMING THE VOICES OF THE COMMUNITY.

HOWEVER, DO NOT BE FOOLED INTO THINKING THAT THIS GROUP HAS THE CITY'S OR THE WORLD'S BEST INTERESTS AT HEART.

THIS IS A DISINGENUOUS EFFORT TO SUBVERT FLAGSTAFF'S EFFORTS TO TAKE MEANINGFUL ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE BY PLAYING INTO YOUR FEARS.

IN 1736, BENJAMIN FRANKLIN FAMOUSLY SAID, AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS WORTH A POUND OF CURE.

APTLY, THIS WAS IN REFERENCE TO FIRE PREVENTION IN PHILADELPHIA.

IN OUR CASE, BOTH THE PREVENTION AND THE CURE ARE TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IN ITS CURRENT FORM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MCKENNA MARINO.

AND THEN LUCIA AND SCARLET MORALES.

HELLO MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK YOU PUT INTO MAKING FLAGSTAFF THE AMAZING PLACE THAT IT IS, AND BEING HERE TONIGHT TO HEAR THE VOICES OF ITS RESIDENTS.

MY NAME IS MCKENNA MARINO AND I'M A SOPHOMORE AT NORTHLAND PREP.

I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO ATTEND THE YOUTH LED CLIMATE STRIKE IN 2019.

I REMEMBER SEEING THE NEARLY 1500 FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS ENTHUSIASTICALLY STRIKING TO PROTECT OUR PLANET AND CALL ATTENTION TO THE GLOBAL PROBLEM OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

THEN THAT ENERGY AND PASSION WAS CARRIED THROUGH IN THE FOLLOWING MONTHS, LEADING TO THE DECLARATION OF A CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND THE ELEVATION OF THE GOALS OF THE CAP TO BECOME CARBON NEUTRAL BY 2030.

THIS COMMUNITY CARES ABOUT THE CLIMATE NEUTRALITY PLAN AND PUT A HUGE TIME AND EFFORT INTO MAKING IT A REALITY.

OF COURSE, WE ARE ALL WORRIED ABOUT FIRE, FLOOD AND DROUGHT, BUT THE RESPONSE TO AND MITIGATION OF THESE ISSUES IS ALREADY BEING FUNDED AND ADDRESSED BY FEDERAL AND COUNTY AGENCIES, AS WELL AS NOW GUTTING THE CNP IN ORDER TO FOCUS ONLY ON RESPONDING TO THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE, WILL DETRACT FROM OUR GOALS OF CARBON NEUTRALITY AND FAIL TO ADDRESS THE ROOT PROBLEM GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.

FOR THIS REASON, IT IS CRUCIAL TO MAINTAIN THE CNP IN ITS CURRENT FORM AND FOCUS ON ACHIEVING CARBON NEUTRALITY USING SCIENTIFICALLY SOUND METHODS.

AS A TEENAGER WHO WILL BE LIVING ON THIS PLANET FOR MANY MORE DECADES TO COME.

I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ISSUE OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOW THAT WILL LEAD TO INCREASED ECOLOGICAL THREATS.

BUT I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT THIS.

IT IS EVERYONE'S FUTURE.

IT IS YOUR FUTURE, AND IT IS FLAGSTAFF'S FUTURE.

RIGHT NOW, THE BEST THING THAT YOU CAN DO TO PROTECT THIS AMAZING TOWN FOR ALL OF US IS TO REJECT FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION AND MAINTAIN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IN ITS CURRENT FORM, AND CONFRONT THE ROOT PROBLEM THAT IS CAUSING OUR FIRES, FLOODS AND DROUGHTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LUCIA AND SCARLETT MORALES AND ANNIKA BIPPUS.

HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS SCARLETT MORALES AND I'M 15 AND I HAVE LIVED IN FLAGSTAFF MY ENTIRE LIFE.

THE FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

IT MEANS A LOT TO ME BECAUSE IT WILL AFFECT FLAGSTAFF FUTURE IMMENSELY.

AS A YOUTH LIVING IN FLAGSTAFF, I HAVE SEEN THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE, INCLUDING FIRE, FLOOD AND DROUGHT.

AND YES, THESE ARE INDEED IMPORTANT PROBLEMS IN FLAGSTAFF.

THIS BEING SAID, THEY ARE NOT THE ENTIRE PROBLEM.

WHAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS THE ROOT CAUSE.

WE ARE. WE ALREADY HAVE MANY ORGANIZATIONS FOCUSING ON FIRE, FLOOD AND DROUGHT PROBLEMS AND FLAGSTAFF.

SO DIVERTING THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLANS RESOURCES IN THE LONG RUN IS A HUGE WASTE OF TIME, AND IT'S GUARANTEED TO MAKE THESE PROBLEMS WORSE.

THE REAL THING THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON IS CARBON NEUTRALITY.

IF WE DON'T FOCUS ON CARBON NEUTRALITY NOW, FLAGSTAFF FUTURE COULD BE SO MUCH WORSE.

WHAT YOU DECIDE NOW WILL NOT ONLY AFFECT FLAGSTAFF, BUT THE ENTIRE WORLD.

PLEASE KEEP THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AS IT IS.

THANK YOU. UM, HI, MY NAME IS LUCIA MORALES.

I'M 12 YEARS OLD AND I GO TO NORTHLAND PREP.

UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, BECAUSE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

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BUT THE CAUSE OF MOST OF THESE ARE ACTUALLY NOT CLIMATE CHANGE.

IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

OR NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AND MANY OTHER CITIZENS OF FLAGSTAFF THAT OUR CARBON EMISSIONS ARE LOWERED SO THE AIR WE BREATHE IS SAFER.

FLAGSTAFF'S FLAGSTAFF FIRST PROJECT COULD TAKE LOTS OF TIME AND MONEY WITH AN ESTIMATE OF $600 MILLION, BUT THESE RESOURCES COULD BE USED TO HELP THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

AS YOU MAY NOTICE, THE PEOPLE HERE IN THIS ROOM MOSTLY CONSIST OF ADULTS, BUT THE YOUTH LIKE ME AND MY SISTER CARE TOO.

WE CARE BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE.

UM, A CARBON NEUTRAL FUTURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANNIKA. BIPPUS AND MARILYN WISEMAN.

HELLO, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS ANNIKA.

I'M A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT HERE IN FLAGSTAFF PAULA, AND I'VE DEDICATED A LOT OF MY LIFE TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE.

OKAY. I'VE LIVED IN FLAGSTAFF MY ENTIRE LIFE, AND LIKE MCKENNA, I PARTICIPATED IN THE GLOBAL CLIMATE STRIKE JUST OUTSIDE THIS HALL IN 2019, WHICH PRECEDED THE DECLARATION OF A CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND THE ADOPTION OF A CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

I LIKE TO SUPPORT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IN ITS CURRENT FORM WITHOUT CHANGING IT, AS THE ORGANIZATION FLAGSTAFF FIRST HAS PROPOSED.

WHILE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR FLOOD, FIRE AND DROUGHT MITIGATION IS UNDOUBTEDLY NEEDED, IT SHOULD NOT BE THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, AS THERE ARE ALREADY OTHER RESOURCES AND ENTITIES DEVOTED TO THAT PURPOSE FOCUSING ON MITIGATION, MITIGATING THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE RATHER THAN FOCUSING ON THE SOURCES ON IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, IS SHORTSIGHTED.

WHAT IS THE POINT OF PUTTING IN EVEN MORE RESOURCES TO FIRE FLOODING AND DROUGHT MITIGATION IF OUR INACTION AND INABILITY TO FACE THE CAUSES OF THESE INCREASINGLY DAMAGING NATURAL DISASTERS ULTIMATELY LEADS TO MORE FLOODING, MORE FREQUENT AND MORE INTENSE WILDFIRES, AND EXTENDS OUR CURRENT DROUGHT.

CARBON NEUTRALITY IT ALSO ADDRESSES MORE THAN JUST NATURAL DISASTERS.

FOR EXAMPLE, CONSIDER THE OTHER LIVING ORGANISMS THAT WE SHARE THIS EARTH WITH.

AND ARIZONA ALONE, THERE ARE 70 SPECIES THAT ARE ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST, INCLUDING THE SAN FRANCISCO PEAKS RAGWORT, WHICH IS A PLANT.

TWO OF THESE SPECIES HAVE BEEN ADDED SINCE, SINCE JUST THIS PAST SEPTEMBER 2022.

IF WE CANNOT CONFRONT THE SOURCE OF INCREASING NATURAL DISASTERS AND OTHER.

ALSO DAMAGING EFFECTS.

WE ARE BETTER EQUIPPED TO ADAPT THEM AND MITIGATE THEIR EFFECTS, WHICH IS WHY CARBON NEUTRALITY SHOULD REMAIN THE FOCUS OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MARILYN WISEMAN AND THEN LEAH MUNDELL.

MARILYN. LEAH MUNDELL AND THEN BERT HARKLEROAD.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR DAGGETT AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS LEAH MUNDELL AND I'M HERE WITH LEADERSHIP FROM NORTHERN ARIZONA INTERFAITH COUNCIL.

I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY TO QUICKLY INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THEIR INSTITUTION THAT THEY'RE HERE WITH.

REVEREND DIAMOND PATE WITH FEDERATED FLAGSTAFF FLAGSTAFF FEDERATED COMMUNITY CHURCH.

KIM CURTIS WITH FOSSIL FREE ARIZONA.

KIBITI WITH NAIC.

SCOTT SUMMERS WITH NORTHERN ARIZONA INTERFAITH COUNCIL.

MISSY. IVY WITH NICK.

ROXANA CARDELL. IAC AND I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF CONGREGATION LEV SHALOM AND REPRESENT NIU AS WELL.

I DON'T REPRESENT ALL OF NIU, BUT I'M ALSO AFFILIATED WITH NEIU.

SO WE AS AN AIC HAVE BEEN A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THE CITY'S CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

AND WE KNOW THAT IF WE DO NOT CONFRONT GLOBAL WARMING DIRECTLY, THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WILL SUFFER DISPROPORTIONATELY.

THE CENTRAL MISSION OF NYC IS TO ADVANCE THE COMMON GOOD.

REDUCING GLOBAL WARMING IS THE BEST AND MOST BASIC WAY WE CAN ENSURE OUR SHARED SURVIVAL AND ABILITY TO THRIVE.

WE'RE CONCERNED AND PERPLEXED BY THE RECENT CHALLENGE TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, IN THE FORM OF THE PETITION BROUGHT BY FLAGSTAFF.

FIRST, ALTHOUGH WE AGREE THAT FIRE, FLOOD AND DROUGHT ARE CRITICAL ISSUES FOR FLAGSTAFF, THESE ARE BEST ADDRESSED IN THE EXISTING CITY DEPARTMENTS WITHOUT DIVERTING

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FLAGSTAFF FIRST CLAIMS ON ITS WEBSITE THAT THE CITY HAS ALLOCATED $600 MILLION FOR THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

IN REALITY, THE ANNUAL BASE FUND FOR THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IS ONLY $51,000.

EVEN ADDITIONAL ONE TIME FUNDS APPROVED THIS YEAR ONLY CAME TO ABOUT $434,000.

AS WE'VE BEEN SEEING ON THE SCREEN, FLAGSTAFF HAS THREE CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS MITIGATION, ADAPTATION, AND EQUITY.

THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IS FLAGSTAFF'S ONLY PLAN FOR MITIGATING OUR CITY'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO GLOBAL WARMING.

ON THE OTHER HAND, IN ADDRESSING CLIMATE ADAPTATION AND EQUITY, THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN BUILDS ON THE WORK OF SEVERAL CITY DIVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WORK FOR MANY YEARS. THIS INCLUDES OUR FIRE, FLOOD AND DROUGHT PREPARATION.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THE FOREST WATERSHED PROTECTION PROJECT, THE COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN, THE CITY WIDE FOREST STEWARDSHIP PLAN, THE WATER CONSERVATION STRATEGIC PLAN, THE STORMWATER STRATEGIC PLAN, THE WASTEWATER EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN, THE RIO DE FLAG IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, AND THE REGIONAL PLAN.

THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IS NOT DESIGNED, NOR SHOULD IT BE, TO OVERSEE ALL OF THESE PLANS AND PROJECTS.

WHY WOULD WE UNDERMINE EXISTING CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN AND ARE CONTINUING TO ADDRESS OUR FIRE, FLOOD AND DROUGHT PREPARATION? PLEASE DON'T FORGET THE MONTHS OF COMMUNITY PLANNING THAT WENT INTO THE ORIGINAL ADOPTION OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, AND THE STRONG COMMUNITY SUPPORT THAT YOU ARE SEEING FOR THIS COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINABILITY.

WE ASK THAT YOU DEMONSTRATE STRENGTH OF LEADERSHIP IN PROTECTING THE CLIMATE.

EXCUSE ME? THE CLIMATE, THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BERT.

AND THEN SUSAN SHAPIRO.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR DAGGETT AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS BURT HARKLEROAD AND I HAVE LIVED IN FLAGSTAFF FOR 29 YEARS.

I'VE WORKED MY ENTIRE LIFE IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, AND IN 1967, MY FAMILY AND I FIRST CAME HERE TO VISIT FLAGSTAFF, AND I BEGAN ATTENDING NYU SUMMER MUSIC CAMP IN 1969 THROUGH 73, WHEN DURING JUNE AND JULY.

THERE IS ALWAYS SNOW ON THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN.

THE CLIMATE IS CHANGING.

ONE OF THE WISEST THINGS THAT CAN AND MUST BE DONE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME IS TO PASS THE 2020 CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

BECAUSE IT SETS GOALS FOR FLAGSTAFF TO REDUCE ITS CARBON FOOTPRINT.

THE CONCEPT OF ACT LOCALLY AND THINK GLOBALLY COMES TO THE FOREFRONT.

WE ARE AT A POINT NOW THAT WE MUST COMPLETELY ADOPT THE CNP PLAN AND NOT UNDERMINE IT WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED.

FLAGSTAFF MUST DO ITS PART TO REACH NET ZERO BY 2030 TO SUPPORT THE GLOBAL MOVEMENT TO NET ZERO.

CLIMATE CHANGE WON'T WAIT.

WE NEED TO ACT TODAY.

FAILING TO PLAN TODAY IS PLANNING TO FAIL FOR TOMORROW.

SOMETHING NONE OF US HERE CAN AFFORD TODAY.

NOT FOR FUTURE FUTURE GENERATIONS EITHER.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

SUSAN SHAPIRO.

AND MACHIAS MARKS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

UM, MY NAME IS SUSAN SHAPIRO.

I THINK YOU'VE SEEN ME BEFORE HERE.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.

AND THANKS FOR HEARING US OUT.

UM, I THINK YOU MIGHT KNOW I TRY TO BE AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, AND I REALLY DO CARE A LOT ABOUT OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY.

UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK, UH, THOSE OF YOU ON THE COUNCIL WHO HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF OUR CARBON NEUTRAL PLAN.

AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M NEWER HERE.

I'M COMING UP, UH, IN MARCH ON THREE YEARS HERE, BUT, UM, OUR PLAN AND STANCE ON, UH, CAP AND OTHER MATTERS IS A POINT OF PRIDE AND BEING PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.

UH, SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF SURPRISE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT CLIMATE DENIERS WHO ARE ATTACKING OUR CARBON NEUTRAL PLAN.

SO I, UH, TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

AND, UH, SO I LISTENED TO AN INTERVIEW OF TOM PEARSON AND ONE OF HIS COLLEAGUES BY JEFF HOROWITZ.

UH, TRY TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY HAVE AGAINST OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

AND TO BE HONEST, THE DISCUSSION WAS KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE.

YOU COULD JUST GOOGLE IT IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FOR YOURSELF AND SEE IF I MISSED ANYTHING.

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UM, BUT 11.

IN PARTICULAR THAT I TAKE ISSUE WITH IS THAT, UM, THE IDEA THAT WE'RE SOMEWHERE, SOMEHOW GOING TO BE LEFT BEHIND BY CONTINUING TO PURSUE OUR CURRENT CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, UH, BECAUSE THE COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA AND RUSSIA ARE NOT ADOPTING, UM, AS AGGRESSIVE OF CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS AS, AS WE ARE.

AND IN FACT, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT, UH, CHINA'S BUILDING 60 COAL PLANTS, LIKE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD EMULATE.

AND IT WAS ALSO STATED THAT OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN ISN'T GOING TO MAKE ANY IMPACT ON WORLD, THE WORLDWIDE CLIMATE CRISIS.

SO YOU COULD CONCLUDE THAT THEY MEANT FOR US TO DO NOTHING.

UH, BUT THE FACT IS, IN ORDER TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE, IT'S A JEWISH CONCEPT KNOWN AS TIKKUN OLAM.

EVERYBODY HAS TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET EVERYBODY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

WE KNOW THAT. SO.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULDN'T DO THE RIGHT THING.

WHAT IT MEANS IS YOU HAVE TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES PULLING TOGETHER IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND THAT MEANS THAT YOU TAKE A LEADERSHIP POSITION AND SHOW OTHERS THE WAY, WHICH I THINK YOU'VE DONE WITH THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR CURRENT PLAN DOES.

AND I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THAT THAT'S A REASON THAT MANY OF YOU ARE SERVING TODAY ON CITY COUNCIL.

SO THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT.

THANK YOU, MARCUS.

AND THEN DAPPER DRE.

SO THEY ARE A THORN IN THE GUY.

GASHI. ARDEN-ARCADE MAKAI'S MARKET SHARE ARE JUST FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T CATCH THAT, I AM NEAR THE WATER.

BORN FOR EDGEWATER. MY MOTHER'S FATHER IS RED BOTTOMS PEOPLE AND MY FATHER'S FATHER IS THE PEOPLES COMING HOME NAMES MAKAI SPARKS.

AND THANK YOU MAYOR FOR PRONOUNCING MY NAME RIGHT.

I KNOW PREVIOUS MAYORS BEFORE HAVE MESSED IT UP.

I'M NOT GOING TO NAME ANY NAMES, BUT IT'S HAPPENED.

UM, SO I'M HERE TO TO SUPPORT THE UNSHELTERED RELATIVE THAT WAS HERE, SHARING THEIR VOICE AND AS WELL AS THEIR CONCERNS WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I'M SO GRATEFUL BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE WHO ARE ORGANIZED, WHO ARE.

COMMITTED TO SOMETHING, COMMITTED TO THAT PASSION OF LOOKING OUT FOR THAT COMMUNITY, THAT FIRE INSIDE OF THEM, LOOKING OUT FOR OUR FUTURE.

YOU'VE HEARD IT FROM OUR GRANDCHILDREN TO OUR ELDERS, SINGS THAT IN MY INTRODUCTION THAT I WAS SHARING.

THAT'S WHAT REFLECTS THE PEOPLES THAT I COME FROM, THE PEOPLES WHO HAVE TAKEN THIS, TAKEN CARE OF THIS LAND BEFORE US.

I'M GRATEFUL TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THIS AS THEY'RE AN AUDIENCE OF THAT, BECAUSE OUR UNSHELTERED RELATIVES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE MOST VULNERABLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT THAT DON'T OFTEN GET THAT ACCESS TO THAT THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED, ESPECIALLY TO ADJUST TO THE CHANGE IN TIMES OF OUR COMMUNITY. NOW I CAN LIST OUT SOLUTIONS LIKE, HEY, WE NEED TO CONSTRUCT LIKE WARMING SHELTERS SO THAT THEY CAN ENDURE THE COLD, AND SO THAT THE NUMBER FIVE DOESN'T COME UP AND HAUNT US.

NOW, I'M NO ENGINEER.

BUT WE CAN AT LEAST CREATE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS, AS WE'VE SEEN THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS TOTALLY CAPABLE OF ORGANIZING AROUND THINGS THAT THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT.

THE RENAMING OF THE SPEAKER HERE IS HOPI FOR HOUSE OF THE CLOUDS.

THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS SHOWN THAT IT CAN ORGANIZE PEOPLE AND CREATE THAT SPACE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD.

IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT CAN HAPPEN FOR THE UNSHELTERED RELATIVES, NOT ONLY AT CITY HALL, NOT ONLY AT THE CITY LEVEL, BUT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

THEN SO CAN WE ALSO LOOK OUT FOR OUR UNSHELTERED RELATIVES, THE MOST VULNERABLE, SO THAT WE LEARN, HEY, IS THIS SOMETHING WE'RE DOING RIGHT, RIGHT HERE, OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK ON? IT'S ALWAYS CREATING THAT SPACE FOR THAT COMMUNITY INPUT.

AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE UNSHELTERED RELATIVE WHO SPOKE BECAUSE IT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE AND THEY'RE PUTTING THEMSELVES AT RISK WHEN THEY'RE DOING THIS.

SO YEAH, AND AS WELL AS A HAT, THANK YOU FOR CREATING THIS SPACE AND AS WELL AS MY COMMUNITY, I HOPE WE CAN ORGANIZE AROUND OUR UNSHELTERED.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL LEAVE THAT SPACE FOR THE ANCESTORS AND AS WELL AS TO THE VOICES, I CAN'T.

THANKS, MACHIAS.

DAPPER DRE, AND THEN KEVIN HAYES.

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UM, ON MILTON AND OF COURSE, UH, MY COMPATRIOT JOANNA WHEATON, WHO LOST HER LIFE TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO TO ROAD VIOLENCE, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER FOLKS AFFECTED BY TRAFFIC VIOLENCE AND ROAD VIOLENCE IN GENERAL.

NATIONWIDE. STATEWIDE.

WORLDWIDE.

SO TODAY I WANT TO BRING UP JUST KIND OF WORDS AND CONCEPTS.

WE USE WORDS TO CONVEY CONCEPTS TO ONE ANOTHER.

UM, AND I WANT TO START WITH WHAT HAPPENS AND WHAT WE CALL WHEN A PEDESTRIAN KILLS ANOTHER PEDESTRIAN.

WE USUALLY CALL THAT MURDER OR MANSLAUGHTER OR SOMETHING PRETTY SERIOUS.

UH, IF A CYCLIST KILLS ANOTHER PEDESTRIAN OR CYCLIST, WE CALL IT AMAZING BECAUSE IT'S INTENTIONAL.

IT HAS TO TAKE SOME KIND OF INTENT FOR IT TO HAPPEN.

AND WHAT DO WE CALL IT WHEN A PEDESTRIAN OR CYCLIST IS KILLED BY A MOTOR VEHICLE, IT'S ALWAYS AN ACCIDENT.

OH, NOTHING COULD HAVE BEEN DONE.

NOTHING, UH, WAS ABLE TO STOP THAT.

WELL, A LOT OF STUFF CAN STOP THAT.

A LOT OF CONSIDERATION CAN STOP THAT.

A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING CAN STOP THAT.

AND WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT IT.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DIE IN CAR TRAFFIC VIOLENCE, THINK ABOUT IT AS COLLISIONS OR CRASHES AND NOT AS ACCIDENTS. THAT'S FOR ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED HERE.

TAKE ACCIDENT OUT OF YOUR MIND BECAUSE IT TAKES, UM, DEVELOPMENT AND IT TAKES, UH, ENTITLEMENT FOR A LOT OF THOSE THAT HAPPEN TO HAPPEN.

UM, AND THAT BRINGS ME TO LOSS, LEVEL OF SERVICE.

YOU HEAR IT A LOT WHEN THEY'RE DEVELOPING ROADS, WHEN THEY'RE DEVELOPING THINGS FOR EVERYBODY THAT IS IN A MOTOR VEHICLE, IT'S LEVEL OF SACRIFICE.

ARE WE GOING TO SACRIFICE OUR AIR QUALITY, OUR SOUND, OUR LIGHTING, OUR SAFETY, OUR LIMBS, OUR FRIENDS, OUR FAMILY MEMBERS? WE JUST CONTINUE, CONTINUE, CONTINUE.

LOSS IS ALWAYS ONLY LEVEL OF SERVICE.

LET'S THINK ABOUT WHO ELSE USES AND WHO ELSE IS AFFECTED BY LEVEL OF SACRIFICE.

AND AT TRAFFIC COMMISSION, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SIGNS.

UH, YOU NEED TO PUT UP A SIGN SO PEOPLE KNOW NOT TO DO STUFF.

YOU NEED TO PUT UP A SIGN SO PEOPLE KNOW TO BE CONSCIOUS.

WELL, LET'S UNSIGN LET'S TAKE AWAY SIGNS, LET'S DESIGN, LET'S DESIGN, LET'S DESIGN FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT JUST MOTOR VEHICLES. SOMETIMES DESIGN FOR EVERYBODY, PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS AND STOP JUST DESIGNING FOR THE CAR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, KEVIN HAYES AND THEN DENNIS GIVENS.

ALL RIGHT. HI EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

MY NAME IS KEVIN HAYES. I'M A PART OF THE PED AND PEDAL CLIMATE ACTION TEAM WITHIN THE NORTHERN ARIZONA CLIMATE CHANGE ALLIANCE.

AND I HAVE TWO SEPARATE TOPICS TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.

UH, FIRST, AS AN ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS BICYCLIST, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO KEEP THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON IT.

UH, SECONDLY, I WANTED TO TALK ON A DIFFERENT SUBJECT MATTER.

A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, I SUBMITTED A PETITION CALLED WALK BY DEFAULT WITH THE GENERAL IDEA OF SETTING THE CROSSWALKS TO WALK WHEN THE LIGHTS TURN GREEN SO THAT BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS DON'T HAVE TO PRESS THAT BUTTON FOR SAFETY AND EXPERIENCE.

RIGHT. I DO WANT TO TAKE A SECOND, AND I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVING THIS PETITION, AND I WANT TO COMMEND THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS SPECIFICALLY.

I WANT TO COMMEND TRAFFIC ENGINEER JEFF BAUMAN AND MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNER MARTIN ENTZ.

WHEN THAT PETITION WAS SUBMITTED, A MEMO WAS ADDED TO THE PETITION TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY CALLED DEMAND RESPONSIVE CONTROL TRAFFIC LIGHTS.

FOR SIMPLICITY, I'M GOING TO CALL THEM SMART TRAFFIC LIGHTS, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GET TOO TECHNICAL.

BUT THE LONG STORY IS THE LIGHTS CAN CHANGE THE TIME THAT THEY STAY GREEN DEPENDING ON THE TRAFFIC, UM, AND THE VEHICLES THAT COME INTO THE INTERSECTION.

SO DUE TO THAT, IT'S A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED.

ASK TO SIMPLY SAY CHANGE EVERY LIGHT TO WALK.

RIGHT. SO I WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND AND COMMEND JEFF AND MARTIN FOR MEETING TO TALK ABOUT OPTIONS.

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BUT INSTEAD THEY ASKED WHAT? AND THEY ASKED WHY.

THEY ASKED, WHAT IS IT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND WHY? WHAT EXPERIENCES ARE WE HAVING AS BICYCLISTS THAT PROMPT THIS PETITION? AND WHAT ISSUES ARE WE SEEING AS BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS THAT ARE PROMPTING THIS REQUEST? AND SO THEY TOOK THE TIME THEY MET WITH US, AND WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBILITIES.

AND TOGETHER WE HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR SOLUTIONS THAT SHOULD IMPROVE THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE EXPERIENCE AND SAFETY WITHOUT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING VEHICULAR TRAFFIC FLOW.

SO OUR HOPE IS TO MEET AGAIN, AND POSSIBLY EVEN FIND SOME INTERSECTIONS.

THAT COULD BE A GOOD PILOT PROJECT TO SEE ABOUT SOLVING SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL ON WHAT IT IS WE'RE TRYING TO DO, SINCE WE'RE STILL IN THE INITIAL PLANNING PHASES, BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR PASSING THIS PETITION, AND THANK YOU TO JEFF AND MARTIN FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO HELP MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER.

THEY ARE INDEED AN ASSET TO THE ORGANIZATION, AND I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED TO SEE WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.

SO THANK YOU EVERYONE.

THANK YOU.

DENNIS GIVENS AND THEN PEGGY CHACON.

HI. THANK YOU. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL STAFF AND CITIZENS.

MY NAME IS DENNIS GIVENS.

I'M ACTUALLY RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL, AND I WORK AT A VEGAN RESTAURANT.

AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU GUYS THAT WE SHOULD EAT MORE VEGETABLES.

IT'S GOOD FOR US BECAUSE IT'S GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, IT'S GOOD FOR THE ANIMALS, AND IT'S GOOD FOR OUR HEALTH.

I ALSO AGREE WITH THAT GENTLEMAN THAT JUST SPOKE.

WE SHOULD MAKE THE CITY MORE WALKABLE, AND WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE EACH OTHER TO BIKE BECAUSE IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR OUR HEALTH.

AND IT'S ALSO ALLOWING US NOT TO RELY ON FOREIGN OIL, WHICH IS WHERE LIKE ENRICHING PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

AND THE LAST THING I'M WITH THIS DUDE, WE SHOULD PLANT SOME MORE TREES BECAUSE CARBON IS BUILDING UP AND TREES WILL ALLOW US TO TURN THAT CARBON INTO OXYGEN.

AND I JUST WANT TO RECOMMEND EVERYONE TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE IT'S A DEMOCRACY, AND WE ALL SHOULD HAVE OUR VOICE IN THE GAME.

AND YEAH, THANKS A LOT EVERYONE.

NAMASTE. AND LET'S GET IT COOL.

THANK YOU, PEGGY CHACON AND THEN LAURA NICHOLSON.

GOOD EVENING.

UM. EARLIER TODAY, I PARTICIPATED IN THE STATE SPONSORED COCONINO RURAL STAKEHOLDERS MEETING FOR CITIZEN INPUT ON CARBON NEUTRALITY. IT IS ONE OF A SERIES OF MEETINGS OFFERED BY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF RESILIENCY.

WE CAN ALL ADD OUR INPUT BY ENTERING OUR COMMENTS ON THE WEB THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

WE WHO ATTENDED ADDED OUR INPUT ON REDUCING CARBON STATEWIDE.

WE ALL MUST DO OUR PART TO CONFRONT THE SOURCE OF ENVIRONMENTAL DEGRADATION.

CARBON FLAGSTAFF'S CARBON NEUTRAL PLAN.

ALL IS ALREADY LEADING OUR COMMUNITY AND NORTHERN ARIZONA ALONG THIS PATH.

IT IS LEADING OTHER REGIONAL COMMUNITIES.

I LIVE IN SEDONA.

OUR COMMUNITY HAS A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

WE IN SEDONA ARE INSPIRED BY THE WORK DONE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

SEDONA IS NOW ANALYZING ITS CITYWIDE CARBON FOOTPRINT, AGAIN INSPIRED BY YOUR CARBON REDUCTION ACTION PLAN.

STATEWIDE, CITIZENS ARE WORKING TO ALSO IMPLEMENT A CLIMATE NEUTRALITY PLAN ENABLED BY NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING.

PLEASE PROUDLY CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

DO NOT BE HAMPERED BY DENIERS OR DISTRACTED BY THE MISGUIDED, SUCH AS FLAGSTAFF'S FIRST PETITION.

CELEBRATE. CELEBRATE YOUR LEADERSHIP ROLE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

LAURA NICHOLSON AND THEN.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE PHONETIC SPELLING.

JOHN. PHAGWARA.

PHAGWARA.

HELLO DEAR MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS LAURA NICHOLSON AND I'M A PHD STUDENT AT NIU STUDYING ECOLOGY AND ALSO A FLAGSTAFF RESIDENT.

I FIRST AND FOREMOST JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR SUPPORTING THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

YOU ALL KNOW THE STATS ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOW BIG OF AN ISSUE THIS IS FOR US ALL.

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WHILE I RESONATE WITH THE CONCERNS OF THIS GROUP TO REDUCE THE RISK OF FIRE AND FLOODS AND DROUGHT, THERE ARE ALREADY FUNDS DIRECTED TO ADDRESS THOSE SPECIFIC ISSUES, AND REDIRECTING THE FUNDING FROM THE CNP WOULD UNDERMINE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS PLAN.

IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE CONTINUE TO PUT FOCUSED ENERGY TOWARDS DECARBONIZING OUR CITY.

FURTHERMORE, IF WE DO NOT TAKE ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE, THESE LOCAL ISSUES WILL ONLY WORSEN THE YEARS TO COME.

IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE STICK TO THIS PLAN AND SUPPORT THIS ACTION PLAN TO HELP OUR CITY AND THE FUTURE OF OUR PLANET.

I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR FUTURES, AS ALREADY WE'RE FEELING THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AS WE KNOW HERE IN FLAGSTAFF WITH ALL THESE LOCAL ISSUES.

ANOTHER ISSUE IS I SEE A LOT OF MY FRIENDS AROUND MY AGE.

I TALK TO THEM ABOUT OUR FUTURES, AND SO MANY OF THEM DO NOT PLAN TO HAVE CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BRING THEM INTO A WORLD OF ASHES.

I HONESTLY QUESTION FOR MYSELF IF IT WOULD BE FAIR TO MY FUTURE CHILDREN, AND IF THEY WOULD ASK ME WHY I CHOSE THEM TO BRING HIM INTO A WORLD THAT IS BEING DECIMATED BY CLIMATE CHANGE. HOWEVER, I MUST HAVE HOPE THAT WE CAN BUILD AND SUPPORT A WORLD WORTH LIVING IN.

THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN CREATE THIS KIND OF WORLD IS TO TAKE BOLD ACTION TO CREATE THIS FUTURE.

AND WHILE THIS IS A GLOBAL PROBLEM THAT CAN SEEM INSURMOUNTABLE, AND WHILE IT CAN FEEL LIKE ANY CHANGES WE MAKE AT THE CITY LEVEL WON'T MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE, IT IS THROUGH THE ACTIONS OF THESE INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES THAT GREAT CHANGES CAN HAPPEN.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TELL AND TO SHOW OUR CHILDREN THAT WE TOOK ACTION TO CREATE A HEALTHY WORLD AND ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM TO GROW UP IN.

THIS IS WHY I DO FEEL SO PROUD AND INSPIRED THAT FLAGSTAFF IS SERVING AS A LEADER FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES IN CARBON NEUTRALITY.

FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT THE RESULTS OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN WILL SIMPLY MAKE OUR CITY A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, IMPROVED AIR QUALITY, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, ENERGY EFFICIENT HOMES, AND HEALTHIER LIVES FOR ALL OF US.

WHY WOULD ANYONE ARGUE AGAINST THAT? THIS IS WHY I SO APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING THIS PLAN IN ITS CURRENT FORM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, JOHN FAGARAZZI AND SAM WYLY.

RIGHT. MAYOR.

VICE MAYOR. UH COUNCIL.

UH. WOW. UM.

SOME POWERFUL AND PASSIONATE, UH, PASSIONATE WORDS TONIGHT, FOR SURE.

UM, SO I'M A PROFESSOR AT NYU, THE SCHOOL OF EARTH AND SUSTAINABILITY.

I'M ALSO HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

UM, I STUDY CLIMATE SCIENCE.

I CARRY OUT THE RELATED RESEARCH AND HAVE FOR ALMOST TWO DECADES.

I ALSO DIRECT A CLIMATE SCIENCE MASTER'S PROGRAM THAT FOCUSES ON CLIMATE SOLUTIONS.

AND YOU'LL HEAR FROM MANY OF THESE STUDENTS LATER TONIGHT WITH RESPECT TO THE EQUITY ATLAS.

UM, AND NORMALLY, I'D BE UP HERE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT ALL THE SCIENCE AND THE DATA AND CITING IPCC REPORTS AND MAJOR PUBLICATIONS, AND I'M HAPPY TO DO SO OFFLINE.

UM, BUT I THINK MANY OF MY PEERS CERTAINLY HAD THAT COVERED TONIGHT.

UM, SO I DIDN'T REALLY PREPARE ANY FORMAL WORDS, BUT I'VE BEEN VERY INSPIRED BY EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID UP HERE.

AND IT GOT ME THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING, UH, REMINDED ME OF A CARTOON THAT I ONCE SAW SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND THE CARTOON SHOWED SEVERAL SCIENTISTS AT A LARGE CLIMATE SUMMIT, AND A CLEARLY AGITATED SCIENTIST IS SHOWN SPEAKING TO SOME OF HIS COLLEAGUES IN THE BACK OF THE LECTURE HALL, WHILE ANOTHER HIGHLY RESPECTED CLIMATE SCIENTIST IS GIVING A PLENARY TALK ON CLIMATE CHANGE SOLUTIONS.

AND THE AGITATED SCIENTIST IS SHOWN SAYING, BUT WHAT IF IT'S ALL A HOAX AND WE MAKE A BETTER WORLD FOR NOTHING? AND SO I SUPPOSE MY POINT IN BRINGING THIS UP IS JUST TO GET US ALL THINKING ABOUT THIS IDEA OF A BETTER WORLD.

UH, IT MIGHT BE EASY FOR SOME TO PERHAPS DISMISS A CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND TO ARGUE IT'S UNREALISTIC OR UNATTAINABLE, OR WE'RE JUST ONE SMALL TOWN.

HOW CAN WE REALLY DO ANYTHING IMPORTANT? BUT DOING HARD THINGS IS HARD.

UH, IT TAKES A COMMITMENT.

AND OUR COMMUNITY HAS CLEARLY SAID TONIGHT THAT WE'RE READY TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT.

UM, IF EVERYONE THOUGHT NEUTRALITY PLANS WERE UNREALISTIC OR UNATTAINABLE, WE WILL NEVER SEE ANY PROGRESS.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO ACCUMULATE THOSE GREENHOUSE GASES THAT ALL OF MY PEERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT AND MOVE TOWARDS THAT WORST CASE IPCC SCENARIO.

SO, AS A PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID TONIGHT, WHY NOT DO OUR SMALL PART, EVEN IF SOMEHOW, UH, AND EVEN IF SOMEHOW YOU STILL AREN'T CONVINCED BY THE OVERWHELMING SCIENCE, WHY NOT STILL JUST WORK TOWARDS CREATING THAT BETTER WORLD? SOMEONE NEEDS TO TAKE THE FIRST STEPS AND BE THAT BEACON AND INSPIRATION FOR OTHERS.

AND SMALL TOWNS CAN STILL HAVE A BIG VOICE, AS HAS BEEN CLEAR TONIGHT.

SO THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, SAM WILEY AND THEN CARLY PEARSON.

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BUT I THINK WE'RE EVENING. SO GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UM, I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY SINCERE GRATITUDE TO MY FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE THE ENERGY TO CONFRONT CLIMATE DENIAL WITH UNEQUIVOCAL, UM, EVIDENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ENERGY FOR THAT FIGHT AT THIS POINT, SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU ALL DO.

UM, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK NOT TO THE CLIMATE DENIERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT TO THE MANY PEOPLE WHO FEEL OVERWHELMED BY THE MOMENTOUS TASK OF MITIGATING AND ADAPTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S EASY TO FEEL DEFEATED WHEN CONFRONTED BY THE SHEER AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.

UM, BUT WE CAN'T LET THAT SENTIMENT LEAD TO A SELF-SERVING, APATHETIC PERSPECTIVE.

I SEE THIS PERSPECTIVE IN FLAGSTAFF FIRST STATEMENTS.

I SEE IT ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA, AND I SEE IT, YOU KNOW, AT THE DINNER TABLE WITH MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH CONTROL OVER HOW FOLKS IN OTHER CITIES, STATES AND NATIONS RESPOND TO THE GLOBAL CLIMATE.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL OVER HOW FOLKS IN OTHER CITIES, STATES, AND NATIONS RESPOND TO THE GLOBAL CLIMATE CRISIS.

UM, ALL WE CAN DO IS ENSURE THAT WE, AS A COMMUNITY, ARE DOING EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO RESPOND TO CLIMATE CHANGE BY PRESERVING THE ORIGINAL FORM OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE, AS THE COMMUNITY OF FLAGSTAFF, ARE DOING OUR PART IN CREATING THE WORLD WE WANT TO SEE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CARLY PEARSON.

GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG EVENING FOR YOU ALL, SO I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR SUPPORTING THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

UM, CLIMATE CHANGE IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK ABOUT ALL THE TIME.

AND, UM, AS AN NYU STUDENT STUDYING THE EFFECTS OF DROUGHT ON EMORY OAKS AND PINYON PINE.

SO SOMETHING THAT I'M RESEARCHING ALL THE TIME, UM, AND THE EFFECTS OF DROUGHT AND WILDFIRE AND THE FLOODS THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THAT, OBVIOUSLY DIRECTLY AFFECT THIS COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

UM, MY FIANCE AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PLACES WHERE WE WANT TO RAISE OUR KIDS THAT WON'T BE AS AFFECTED BY CLIMATE CHANGE, AND THERE AREN'T THAT MANY PLACES.

UM, AND SO GIVEN THAT THE FACT THAT THIS ISSUE IS SO HUGE, UM, IT CAN FEEL KIND OF HOPELESS SOMETIMES, BUT LIVING IN A PLACE IN FLAGSTAFF.

AND AS A FLAGSTAFF RESIDENT, I FEEL SO MUCH HOPE WITH THE, UM, CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND THE FACT THAT, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS, UM, HOPE ALSO, AND THAT YOU TAKE CLIMATE CHANGE SERIOUSLY.

UM, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ASK THE COUNCIL NOT TO ADVANCE THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION.

AND, UM, I THINK WE CAN SPREAD HOPE TO OTHER COMMUNITIES AND OTHER PEOPLE.

AND I THINK THAT, UM, WE CAN SHOW THAT, UM, ACTION IS POSSIBLE AND THAT WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE ONE COMMUNITY AT A TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT FOR IN PERSON COMMENTS I SEE THAT WE HAVE SOME ONLINE SO WE WILL TAKE THOSE.

MAYOR, I HAVE ONE ONLINE COMMENT.

LEILA YANGO.

YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE AND GIVE YOUR COMMENTS NOW.

THANK YOU. UM.

HELLO. UH FLAGSTAFF.

CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

I'M A SOPHOMORE.

I'M A SOPHOMORE IN HIGH SCHOOL AND PART OF ARIZONA YOUTH CLIMATE COALITION AND NORTHERN ARIZONA CLIMATE CHANGE ALLIANCE.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING FLAGSTAFF'S CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT STEP IN REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND THEREBY PROTECTING NATURE AND THE COMMUNITIES IN IT.

BECAUSE OF THIS IMPORTANCE, I'M URGING YOU NOT TO ADVANCE THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION.

IT WASTES $600 MILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON PLANNING AND FUNDING FOR FIRE, FLOOD AND DROUGHT, WHICH OTHER ENTITIES ALREADY TAKE CARE

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IF THIS AMENDMENT IS ALLOWED TO PASS, FLAGSTAFF WILL BE FURTHER SET BACK IN FIGHTING THE CLIMATE CRISIS AND ITS GRAVE CONSEQUENCES.

MAY I REMIND YOU THAT 7 MILLION PEOPLE DIE EACH YEAR FROM AIR POLLUTION ALONE, ACCORDING TO THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION.

MAY YOUR CONSCIENCE NOT BEAR TO SEE THIS NUMBER RAISE.

WORLD LEADERS HAVE FAILED IN SO FAR TO TAKE THE REQUIRED ACTION TO COMBAT THE MULTIPLE ECOLOGICAL CRISES WE ARE FACING.

BUT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN DO WHAT THEY CAN.

FLAGSTAFF MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MUST FULFILL THEIR RESPONSIBILITY IN PROTECTING NATURE AND EVERYTHING IN IT.

I ASK YOU TO KEEP COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE, ANIMALS, PLANTS, LAND, AIR AND WATER IN MIND WHEN YOU ON THE AMENDMENT TO FLAGSTAFF CMP.

THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING FLAGSTAFF'S CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IN ITS CURRENT FORM.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT FOR ONLINE.

YES, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT.

TOOK THE TIME TO SPEAK TO US THIS EVENING.

UM, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 20 MINUTE BREAK, WHICH WILL ALLOW YOU ALL TO LEAVE BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU WANT TO.

AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND AND.

GET THE REST OF THE MEETING STARTED, RIGHT? WE ARE GOING TO GET STARTED AGAIN.

I HAVE.

OKAY. LET'S SEE.

NOW LET'S REVIEW THE DRAFT AGENDA FOR THE DECEMBER 19TH, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER.

SIX CITY MANAGER REPORT.

[6. City Manager Report Information Only]

THANK YOU. SKIPPING OVER. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT FLAGSTAFF CLIMATE EQUITY ATLAS RESEARCH.

[8. Flagstaff Climate Equity Atlas Research This item is for discussion only. ]

I'M GRACIE ROCAMORA, THE SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION'S CLIMATE VULNERABILITY AND RESILIENCE.

VISTA. I'VE BEEN SERVING AS AN AMERICORPS VISTA IN THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW.

AND IN THIS TIME, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON SOME TRULY MEANINGFUL PROJECTS.

TONIGHT, I'M EXCITED TO INTRODUCE A NEW COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE AND NEW GRADUATE STUDENTS IN THE CLIMATE SCIENCE AND SOLUTIONS PROGRAM.

THIS COLLABORATION STARTED WITH US IDENTIFYING THE NEED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND AVAILABLE TOOLS AND DATA THAT WE CAN USE TO HELP US REACH OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN GOALS.

AND STUDENT RESEARCHERS WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME EXISTING STRATEGIES.

THESE RESEARCHERS ARE HERE TONIGHT, ALONG WITH SOME OF THEIR CLASSMATES, TO PRESENT THEIR FINDINGS AND DISCUSS HOW TO MEET OUR NEEDS AND FLAGSTAFF.

BUT FIRST, I'M GOING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTRODUCTION TO THIS RESEARCH AND WHY WE NEED IT.

SO FIRST, THE CITY HAS ALREADY MADE DIRECT COMMITMENTS IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN TO EQUITY.

THE PLAN DEFINES EQUITY AS ENSURING THE FAIR AND JUST DISTRIBUTION OF THE BENEFITS OF CLIMATE ACTION, AND STRIVING TO REDUCE THE UNEQUAL BURDENS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

THERE IS AN ENTIRE SECTION IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN DEDICATED TO EQUITY, BUT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE FOLLOWING TWO TARGETS.

SO IS1 STATES INCORPORATE EQUITY AS A FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENT OF EVERY CLIMATE ACTION THE CITY DEVELOPS AND IMPLEMENTS, AND IS THREE STATES DESIGN TARGETED CLIMATE POLICIES AND PROGRAMS TO SERVE DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED COMMUNITIES.

FIRST, WE HAVE COMMITTED TO INCORPORATING EQUITY INTO OUR ACTIONS AND TO TARGETING OUR PROGRAMS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITIES THAT NEED THEM THE MOST.

BUT TO MEET THESE GOALS, WE NEED TOOLS AND DATA, AND WE NEED A WAY TO FURTHER INFUSE EQUITY INTO OUR PROGRAMS AND INTO THE DECISIONS WE MAKE.

WE NEED A PLAN TO OPERATIONALIZE EQUITY IN OUR WORK AND IN OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT THE FIRST TO APPROACH THIS TOPIC.

MANY CITIES AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ALREADY SHOWN EXCELLENT LEADERSHIP IN INCORPORATING EQUITY INTO THEIR DECISION MAKING.

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A FEW EXAMPLES ARE LISTED HERE ON THE SLIDE AND THE STUDENTS WILL GO DEEPER INTO THESE.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE CAN LEARN FROM BOTH THE SUCCESSES AND THE CHALLENGES OF THESE CITIES AND THEIR TOOLS.

ONE TOOL THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT IS AN EQUITY ATLAS.

AT ITS CORE, AN EQUITY ATLAS IS A VISUALIZATION OF EQUITY IN A COMMUNITY.

IT TAKES EQUITY RELATED DATA AND DISPLAYS IT, OFTEN IN THE FORM OF MAPS.

SO IT'S EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EQUITY LOOKS LIKE ACROSS A COMMUNITY.

THIS DATA CAN INVOLVE ANYTHING FROM DEMOGRAPHIC DATA LIKE RACE, AGE, INCOME TO GEOGRAPHIC DATA LIKE ACCESS TO SERVICES AND TRANSIT TO CLIMATE DATA LIKE FLOODING RISK AND AIR QUALITY IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

EQUITY ATLASES ARE OFTEN USED TO INCORPORATE DATA INTO DECISION MAKING, SO ORGANIZATIONS CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES ARE MOST NEEDED, AND IDENTIFY PRACTICAL WAYS TO BUILD EQUITABLE CLIMATE ACTION AND BETTER SUPPORT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS ULTIMATELY A TOOL THAT IS ACCESSIBLE TO BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND DECISION MAKERS TO UNDERSTAND EQUITY RELATED DATA IN THE COMMUNITY.

IN THE EXAMPLE SHOWN HERE ON THE SLIDE, SEATTLE CREATED AN INTERACTIVE MAP THAT CAN DISPLAY DIFFERENT INDICATORS OF SOCIAL EQUITY ACROSS THE REGION.

EXPLORING THE MAP, YOU CAN VIEW AN OVERALL EQUITY INDEX WHICH IS SHOWN HERE.

OR YOU CAN VIEW DIFFERENT INDICATORS RELATED TO ECONOMY, LIVABILITY, THE ENVIRONMENT.

NOT ONLY IS THIS INDEX AVAILABLE AS OPEN DATA FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT DECISION MAKERS ACTUALLY USE IT TO TARGET THEIR PROGRAMS, RESOURCES, AND OUTREACH WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED.

AND TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, I'D LIKE TO SHARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF HOW WE COULD USE A TOOL LIKE THIS IN THE SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION TO HELP MEET THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN'S EQUITY GOALS.

FIRST, WE HAVE A PROGRAM TO DISTRIBUTE FREE HEPA FILTERS TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO IMPROVE AIR QUALITY IN THEIR HOMES.

IDEALLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO FIRST DISTRIBUTE THESE HEPA FILTERS TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE LOWER INCOME OR HAVE OTHER RISK FACTORS RELATED TO AGE, HEALTH CONDITIONS, OR PROXIMITY TO WORSE AIR QUALITY.

DATA ON WHERE THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE IN FLAGSTAFF WOULD HELP US TARGET OUR COMMUNICATIONS TO THESE AREAS, TO MAKE SURE THAT HEPA FILTERS ARE ACCESSIBLE TO THOSE WHO NEED THEM. ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS HOUSEHOLD FLOOD PREPAREDNESS.

YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD ABOUT OUR PROGRAM TO PROVIDE GRANTS TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO CONDUCT FLOOD PROOFING MEASURES ON THEIR PROPERTY.

DATA ON SOCIAL INDICATORS SUCH AS INCOME AND DEMOGRAPHICS, AND SPATIAL INDICATORS, SUCH AS WHERE FLOODING OCCURS IN THE COMMUNITY, COULD HELP US DO TARGETED OUTREACH IN THESE AREAS WITH THE GREATEST NEED.

AND A FINAL EXAMPLE IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF RESILIENCE HUBS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AS A REMINDER, WE RECENTLY RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THE EPA TO ESTABLISH THREE RESILIENCE HUBS ACROSS FLAGSTAFF, INCLUDING IN THE SUNNY SIDE AND SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN THE COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE TEAMS BUS.

AS WE ARE DEVELOPING THESE RESILIENCE HUBS TO SUPPORT THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY IN THE FACE OF A CHANGING CLIMATE, DATA WILL HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW TO REACH AND SUPPORT PEOPLE TO FOSTER COMMUNITY RESILIENCE.

AGE, ABILITY, ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY AND SHELTER ARE ALL FACTORS THAT CAN IMPACT A PERSON'S VULNERABILITY TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

AND FOR RESILIENCE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE EFFECTIVE, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THESE INDICATORS AND HOW WE CAN BEST ENGAGE WITH OUR COMMUNITY AS IT IS.

OVERALL, THE SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION AND OTHER COLLEAGUES AS WELL COULD USE DATA TOOLS TO TARGET OUR PROGRAMS TO PEOPLE WHO NEED THEM THE MOST.

AND AFTER IDENTIFYING THIS, NEED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND POTENTIAL TOOLS AND DATA TO HELP US OPERATIONALIZE EQUITY IN OUR WORK.

WE ARE SO LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH NIU TO CONDUCT THE BACKGROUND RESEARCH.

OVER THIS PAST SEMESTER, A WONDERFUL TEAM OF GRADUATE STUDENTS IN THE CLIMATE SCIENCES AND SOLUTIONS PROGRAM HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING INITIAL RESEARCH TO HELP US GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW CITIES OPERATIONALIZE EQUITY.

WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE EFFECTIVE TOOLS OUT THERE, BUT WE NEED A LOT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THESE TOOLS ARE AND THEIR PROS AND CONS BEFORE WE CAN CONSIDER PURSUING SOMETHING LIKE AN EQUITY ATLAS HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

SO DIFFERENT TEAMS OF STUDENTS CONDUCTED BACKGROUND RESEARCH AND STARTED TO CREATE A VISUALIZATION OF WHAT AN EQUITY ATLAS AND FLAGSTAFF COULD LOOK LIKE.

TO CLARIFY, THESE STUDENTS DID NOT COLLECT ANY NEW COMMUNITY RESEARCH AND THEY DID NOT CREATE A COMPLETE EQUITY ATLAS.

THE SCOPE OF THEIR PROJECT IS INFORMATIONAL, DISCOVERING WHAT DATA AND TOOLS ARE OUT THERE, AND PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW THE COMMUNITY CAN FURTHER EXPLORE THESE TOOLS TO FOSTER EQUITABLE CLIMATE ACTION.

AND AS YOU WILL SEE IN A MINUTE, ONE GROUP CONDUCTED A LITERATURE REVIEW IDENTIFYING WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE ALREADY DOING TO OPERATIONALIZE EQUITY AND CONNECTING THESE CASES TO THE CONTEXT OF FLAGSTAFF.

ONE GROUP CREATED AN INITIAL EQUITY PROFILE, STARTING TO CONNECT THE DATA THAT WE ALREADY HAVE TO SHOW WHAT INFORMATION IS RELEVANT TO EQUITY IN FLAGSTAFF.

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AND FINALLY, ONE GROUP USED GIS TO ACTUALLY START CREATING MAPS THAT SHOW THE INTERSECTION OF DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC AND CLIMATE DATA THAT WE COULD USE TO HELP MEET CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN EQUITY GOALS.

THIS RESEARCH PROJECT IS THE RESULT OF THE STUDENTS HARD WORK, AND WAS ALSO SUPPORTED BY OUR FRIENDS IN GIS AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING IN THE CITY.

THE STUDENTS ARE GOING TO PRESENT THEIR FINDINGS IN EACH OF THESE AREAS AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR NEXT STEPS.

AND AS THEIR SEMESTER WRAPS UP THIS WEEK, THEY WILL ALSO BE PUBLISHING A RESEARCH REPORT AND A STORY MAP DETAILING WHAT THEY LEARNED.

THEY ARE HAPPY TO SHARE THESE MATERIALS WITH ALL OF US, AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO LEARN FROM THEM.

SO AS ONE FINAL ITEM BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THE STUDENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO SUMMARIZE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO BE REALLY TRANSPARENT THAT THIS IS STEP ONE.

WE DO NOT YET HAVE A PLAN TO COLLECT ANY NEW DATA, OR TO BUILD AND LAUNCH AN EQUITY ATLAS AND FLAGSTAFF AT THIS POINT.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE NOT YET STARTED THE VITAL PROCESS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO ENSURE THAT ANY TOOL WE UTILIZE TRULY SERVES THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.

MANY DEEP COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS NEED TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE CAN TAKE ANY MORE STEPS.

THERE ARE ALSO QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO SHOULD HOST AN EQUITY ATLAS, INCLUDING WHETHER IT'D BE BEST TO COME FROM A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION INSTEAD OF THE GOVERNMENT.

AND THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW COLLECTING AND DISPLAYING DATA COULD LEAD TO THE POTENTIAL FOR HARM.

ALL THESE QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ANSWERED IN THE NEXT PHASE OF THE PROCESS.

AS OF NOW, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THIS NEED FOR TOOLS TO SUPPORT THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLANS EQUITY GOALS, AND WE ARE NOW SO EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT THE FIRST STEP OF BACKGROUND RESEARCH AND RECEIVE FEEDBACK FOR WHERE TO GO NEXT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO EZRA.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, GRACIE.

GOOD EVENING. CITY MAYOR.

VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALL ATTENDEES.

MY NAME IS ESSER ABDUL KADIR.

I'M A CLIMATE SCIENCE AND SOLUTIONS MASTER'S STUDENT AT NYU.

I'M A FULBRIGHT SCHOLAR, AND I'M ORIGINALLY FROM ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT.

I WAS LUCKY TO COME TO THE UNITED STATES TO FLAGSTAFF, ESPECIALLY TO PURSUE MY MASTER'S DEGREE IN CLIMATE SCIENCE AND SOLUTIONS AT NYU, AS GRACIE MENTIONED. TODAY WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THE CLIMATE EQUITY ATLAS.

THE CLIMATE EQUITY ATLAS RESEARCH PRESENTED BY THE CLIMATE SCIENCE AND SOLUTIONS COHORT CLASS 2023.

AS I GUESS MOST OF THE FOLKS ARE HERE TODAY.

AND OUR ADVISOR, OF COURSE, DOCTOR JOHN FIGUERESI, I HOPE I PRONOUNCE IT RIGHT.

OKAY, SO RIGHT NOW I'M GOING TO NARRATE A VISION AND A HYPOTHETICAL STORY ON HOW I SEE FLAGSTAFF, AS I ALWAYS CALL FLAGSTAFF MY SECOND HOME.

I SEE IT LEADING AND INSPIRING OTHER CITIES TO ADOPT A SIMILAR CARBON NEUTRALITY AND CLIMATE EQUITY PLANS.

SO THE TITLE OF THIS STORY IS SEEDS OF EQUITY.

ONCE UPON A TIME, IN A WORLD NOT TOO DISSIMILAR FROM OUR OWN, THERE WAS A LAND DIVIDED INTO THREE REGIONS THE VALLEY OF PROSPERITY, THE MOUNTAIN OF STRUGGLE, AND THE FOREST OF HARDSHIP.

IN THE HEART OF FLAGSTAFF, WHERE THE PONDEROSA PINES STOOD TALL AND THE MOUNTAINS WHISPERED TALES OF RESILIENCE, EACH REGION HAD ITS UNIQUE CHALLENGE.

BUT THE MOST PRESSING ISSUE WAS THE CHANGING CLIMATE THAT AFFECTED THEM ALL IN THE VALLEY OF PROSPERITY.

THE PEOPLE ENJOYED AN ABUNDANT HARVEST AND MODERN AMENITIES.

HOWEVER, THEIR SUCCESS CAME AT A COST.

THEY WERE UNAWARE THAT THE POLLUTANTS THEIR INDUSTRIES RELEASED DRIFTED INTO THE FOREST OF HARDSHIP AND THE MOUNTAIN OF STRUGGLE, CAUSING HARDSHIP FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THOSE REGIONS.

ONE DAY, A WISE GROUP OF THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY MEMBERS EMERGED IN THE VALLEY, RECOGNIZING THE INTERCONNECTION OF THE WORLD AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

THEY PUT UP RESEARCH IN CLIMATE EQUITY FOR FLAGSTAFF IN THEIR IDEALIZED FUTURE, WHERE EVERY REGION WOULD ENSURE SUSTAINABILITY AND JUSTICE BY CONTRIBUTING TO THE WELL-BEING OF OTHERS.

HARMONY STARTED BY PLANTING THE SEEDS OF EQUITY.

THESE WERE NOT ORDINARY SEATS, BUT IDEAS THAT WOULD GROW INTO ACTIONS BENEFITING EVERYONE.

THEY WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY DISPARITIES AND INEQUITIES IN THREE LANDS SUCH AS HOUSING, INCOME, EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE AND ACCESS TO

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THE EXCESS RESOURCES GENERATED WERE SHARED WITH THE MOUNTAIN AND THE FOREST TO SUPPORT THE TRANSITION TO SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES.

AS THE SEEDS OF EQUITY DEVELOPED, THE MOUNTAIN OF A STRUGGLE BEGAN TO FLOURISH.

NEW JOBS EMERGED IN RENEWABLE ENERGY, AND EDUCATION PROGRAMS HELPED THE RESIDENTS ADAPT TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

MEANWHILE, IN THE FACE OF HARDSHIP, REFORESTATION EFFORTS TOOK ROOT.

FIRE BREAKS AND CONTROLLED BURNS HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED, CREATING A NATURAL BARRIER AGAINST FOREST FIRES.

OVER THE TIME, THE THREE REGIONS BECOME MORE INTERCONNECTED AND INTERDEPENDENT, THE ORIGINALLY DIVIDED LAND IS NOW BLOOMING WITH A SENSE OF SHARED RESPONSIBILITY.

THE CLIMATE EQUITY RESEARCH, AS PART OF CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, NOT ONLY MITIGATED THE EFFECT OF CLIMATE CHANGE, BUT ALSO INSPIRED A SENSE OF UNITY AND COLLABORATION AMONG THE PEOPLE.

AND SO THE TALE OF THE SEEDS OF EQUITY SPREAD ACROSS THE LAND, INSPIRING OTHER CITIES TO ADOPT A SIMILAR CLIMATE EQUITY PLANS WITH EQUITY COMPONENTS.

THE ONCE DISPARATE REGIONS NOW STOOD AS A SHINING EXAMPLE OF HOW A THOUGHTFUL AND INCLUSIVE APPROACH TO CLIMATE ACTION COULD CREATE A SUSTAINABLE AND EQUITABLE FUTURE FOR ALL.

FLAGSTAFF, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS EXPERIENCING THE DIRECT EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AS SEEN BY RECENT EVENTS AND IMPACTS.

VARIOUS WILDFIRES LIKE THE MUSEUM, FIRE, PIPELINE FIRE AND RAFAEL FIRE CAN PUT THE COMMUNITY ON NOTICE FOR EVACUATION AT ANY TIME.

FLOATING AND DEBRIS FLOWS AS A RESULT OF FIRE CAN ALSO CAUSE WATER POWER AND GAS OUTAGE, AND DISRUPT TRANSPORTATION ROUTES AND COMMERCIAL SUPPLIES.

THESE TYPES OF EVENTS HIGHLIGHT BOTH FLAGSTAFF VULNERABILITY TO CLIMATE RELATED RISK AND THE NECESSITY FOR TAKING PREVENTIVE ACTIONS.

THEREFORE, THE CHS COHORT, AS PART OF FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY MEMBERS AIM TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN SOCIAL AND CLIMATE CONSIDERATIONS BY ACKNOWLEDGING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN INEQUITIES AND VULNERABILITIES.

SO, THIS PHASE ONE RESEARCH PROJECT SEEKS TO PAVE THE WAY FOR A TRANSFORMATIVE TOOL, THE CLIMATE EQUITY ATLAS.

SO IN THE BEGINNING, WHAT IS THE CLIMATE EQUITY ATLAS? IT IS A SPATIAL TOOL FOR VISUALIZING IN EQUITY WORK.

AND THE GOAL OF THE CLIMATE EQUITY ATLAS RESEARCH IS TO FIRST RESEARCH AND COMPILE BEST PRACTICES ON COMMUNITY VULNERABILITY, RISK AND RESILIENCE, DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS, AND INCORPORATE EXISTING RESOURCES ON THESE TOPICS IN FLAGSTAFF SECOND GOAL IS TO COLLECT, MANAGE, ANALYZE AND INTERPRET DATA ON COMMUNITY, SOCIAL AND CLIMATE CHANGE VULNERABILITIES, RISK AND RESILIENCE, WITH THE OBJECTIVE OF IDENTIFYING HOW THESE FACTORS ARE DISTRIBUTED SPATIALLY ACROSS FLAGSTAFF.

THIRD IS TO CREATE PUBLIC FACING COMMUNITY MAPS AND OTHER DATA VISUALIZATION PRODUCTS SHOWING THE SPATIAL DISTRIBUTION OF COMMUNITY, VULNERABILITY, RISK, AND RESILIENCE IN FLAGSTAFF.

LASTLY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IS TO BUILD A PATH TOWARDS EQUITABLE RESOURCE DISTRIBUTION AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.

RIGHT NOW, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MY CS COLLEAGUE TUNGI, WHO WILL EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THE LITERATURE REVIEW AND CASE STUDIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

EZRA. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO STAND IN FRONT OF YOU.

MY NAME IS TONGA EMEZI.

I'M FROM ZIMBABWE, SOUTHERN AFRICA.

I'M HERE IN THE CLIMATE SCIENCE AND SOLUTIONS PROGRAM.

I'M HERE AS A FULBRIGHT STUDENT, AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO PRESENT BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON ON BEHALF OF MY CLASS.

SO TAKING UP FROM WHERE EZRA LEFT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND HOW WE REVIEWED LITERATURE TO GAIN UNDERSTANDING OF LESSONS WE CAN DRAW AS WE COME UP WITH AN EQUITY PLAN FOR FLAGSTAFF.

SO WE CHOSE FOUR CITIES TO DRAW LESSONS FROM, PARTICULARLY PORTLAND, MINNEAPOLIS, BURLINGTON AND BOZEMAN.

THESE CASE STUDIES WERE CHOSEN FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.

FIRST OF ALL, WE CHOSE PORTLAND AND MINNEAPOLIS BECAUSE THEIR REPORTS WERE IN DEPTH AND BASICALLY PROVIDED A CLEAR DESCRIPTION OF THEIR WORK.

WE CHOSE, UM, PARTICULARLY PORTLAND, BECAUSE OF ITS HISTORY AND BEING AT THE FOREFRONT OF EQUITY PLANNING.

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THERE ARE 2015 EQUITY.

CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN EXEMPLIFIES THE INTEGRATION OF EQUITY INTO DECISION MAKING.

IT EMPHASIZES SOCIAL EQUITY PRINCIPLES AND PRIORITIZES CORE BENEFITS FOR MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.

PORTLAND'S COMMITMENT INVOLVES INTENTIONAL POLICIES AND PROJECTS FOCUSING ON INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT TO CONNECT COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS AND SUPPORT THE GROWTH OF DIVERSE AND MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.

WE NOTICED THAT THEY PROVIDED PROGRESS UPDATES TO THEIR EQUITY PLAN IN THEIR 2017 CLIMATE ACTION PROGRESS REPORT, SO A NUMBER OF LESSONS WE DRAW FROM THEM IS THAT WE LEARNED THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO SEEK AND MAINTAIN THE HIGHEST FORM OF INCLUSIVITY, ENGAGEMENT REGARDING MARGINALIZED AND UNDERSERVED AND VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE RESOURCES TO PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE EQUITY, AND IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO IMPLEMENT ACCESSIBLE AND COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL PROGRESS REPORTS AS THEY DID. MOVING ON TO MINNEAPOLIS.

THE MINNEAPOLIS 2023 CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN IS A ROADMAP OF THE CITY'S CLIMATE AND EQUITY GOALS.

IT HIGHLIGHTS RESIDENTS CONCERNS, AND IT LAYS OUT, UM, PLANS FOR ADDRESSING THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE IN MINNEAPOLIS.

THE USE OF RESPONSES FROM CITIZENS TO DIRECTLY INFORM THE INDICATORS THAT THEY THEN USE IN THEIR EQUITY PLAN.

THE INFOGRAPHIC YOU ARE LOOKING IN FRONT OF YOU CAME IS IN THERE IN THE MINNEAPOLIS PLAN, AND IT CONTAINS THREE EQUITY PRINCIPLES THAT WERE TAKEN FROM THESE SURVEYS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THE COMMUNITY SAID, FOR INSTANCE, THEY ENVISION, UH, STARTING WITH HEALTH AT THE TOP.

THEY IMAGINE A MINNEAPOLIS THAT SUPPORTS HEALTHY LIVING FOR ALL.

AND FOR THEM, HEALTHY LIVING MEANT CLEAN AIR, HEALTHY FOOD ACCESS.

ZERO DISPARITIES IN HEALTH.

MOVING ON TO WEALTH, THEY SAID THEY THEY THEY IMAGINE A MINNEAPOLIS WHERE WEALTH IS BUILT FOR ALL IN A MINDSET OF ABUNDANCE, NOT SCARCITY.

AND PAST INJUSTICES ARE RIGHTED.

AND SO FOR THEM, UM, FOR THE RESIDENTS, THIS EQUITY PLAN WAS MAINLY ABOUT JUSTICE.

IT WAS ALSO ABOUT HIGH PAYING JOBS.

IT WAS ALSO ABOUT REDUCING HOUSING ENERGY BURDEN AND ALSO MOVING ON TO THE CLIMATE.

THEY SAID WE IMAGINE A MINNEAPOLIS WHERE WE LIVE SUSTAINABLY AND RESPOND RESILIENTLY TO GROWING CLIMATE IMPACTS.

SO FOR THEM, THEY LOOKED AT ISSUES TO DO WITH EXTREME WEATHER CONDITIONS AND HOW IT AFFECTS THEM.

UH, THEY ENVISIONED A SITUATION WHERE THEY HAVE A CARBON FREE MINNEAPOLIS BY 2050 AND REDUCE CARBON EMISSIONS TO 75% BY 2030.

SO FROM THE MINNEAPOLIS EQUITY PLAN, WE LEARNED A NUMBER OF THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, WE LEARNED THE IMPORTANCE OF JUST GOOD PRESENTATION, INCLUDING FONTS, FORMATTING.

HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE A ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE, INCLUDING PEOPLE WHO ARE COLOR BLIND? WE LEARNED THE IMPORTANCE OF MEANINGFUL GRAPHICS TO COMMUNICATE DATA IN PROGRESS, LIKE THE GRAPHIC BEFORE YOU.

WE LEARNED THE IMPORTANCE OF PROVIDING A CLEAR ROAD MAP FOR ACTION ITEMS. THEIR PLAN HAD THREE SECTIONS.

THE FIRST SECTION LOOKED AT PLANT BACKGROUND AND PROCESSES.

ANOTHER SECTION LOOKED AT CALL TO ACTION AND THEY ENDED THE SECTION THAT LOOKED AT IMPLEMENTATION AND THIS PROVIDES US INFORMATION.

THIS SECTION PROVIDED INFORMATION ON HOW THIS PLAN CAN BE USED AND ITS EFFECTS.

WE LEARNED ALSO THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO INDICATE NAMES OF CITY ENTITIES THAT WILL BE EXECUTING DIFFERENT PLAN INITIATIVES.

MOVING ON TO BOZEMAN, THE CITY OF BOZEMAN WORKED WITH A CONSULTING FIRM TO MEASURE EQUITY, ACCESS, UH, EQUITY AND ACCESS TO RESOURCES WITHIN THE CITY. THEY HAD TARGETED OUTREACHES, UH, WHICH GUARANTEED THE ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT OF UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES IN THEIR DATA COLLECTION PROCESS. SO THEIR GAP IDENTIFICATION PROCESS BLENDED QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS THROUGH CENSUS DATA AND ALSO QUALITATIVE INSIGHTS GATHERED FROM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

SO WHAT DO WE LEARN FROM THEIR WORK? WE LEARNED THAT QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE DATA ARE BOTH IMPORTANT IN IDENTIFYING GAPS.

WE LEARNED THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS KEY.

AND WE ALSO LEARNED THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT THINGS LIKE TYPEFACE, COLOR, LANGUAGE OPTIONS, UM, ACCESSIBLE LOCATION OF THE REPORT ONCE IT'S AVAILABLE. UH, IT HAS TO BE IN A WEBSITE WEBSITE WHERE EVERYONE CAN CAN REACH IT AND ACCESS IT.

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THE CITY OF BURLINGTON'S 2019 EQUITY REPORT FOCUSES ON FIVE KEY INDICATORS, PARTICULARLY THE ECONOMY, EDUCATION, HEALTH, HOUSING, AND JUSTICE.

AND THEN THEY HAVE DEDICATED SECTIONS TO DEMOGRAPHICS, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO THEY ALSO INCORPORATE STATE COMPARISON FOR DEMOGRAPHIC DATA, WHICH ALLOWS THE READER TO GET AN IDEA OF HOW BURLINGTON IS DOING COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE STATE.

SO AS WE DEVELOP OUR EQUITY CLASS AS OUR EQUITY ATLAS, AS A CITY, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT ADOPTING A SIMILAR STRATEGY WHERE WE USE STATEWIDE DATA IN ORDER TO ENHANCE THE ACCESSIBILITY AND RELEVANCE OF THE EQUITY REPORT TO A BROADER ARIZONA AUDIENCE.

BURLINGTON REPORTS SET AN EXAMPLE FOR FLAGSTAFF BY FEATURING COMPREHENSIVE ACCOUNTABILITY SECTIONS, WHICH OUTLINES HOW THE POLICIES ARE IMPLEMENTED AND HOW GRANTS OR FUNDS OR DETAILS ARE, OR HOW GRANTS OR FUNDS ARE USED.

AND THE SUCCESS OF EACH OF THESE PROJECTS.

BEFORE YOU IS AN INFOGRAPHIC WHERE WE SEE THE POWER OF QUALITATIVE DATA AGAIN, WHERE THEY INTERVIEWED STUDENTS, UM, AT IN BURLINGTON, AND THEY GAVE THEIR IDEAS OF WHAT THEY THINK EQUITY IS.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFOGRAPHIC, MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT EQUITY HAS TO DO WITH BURLINGTON, WHICH IS A BIG WORD THAT POPS UP.

IT HAS TO DO WITH BEING EQUAL, IT HAS TO DO WITH OPPORTUNITIES.

AND THEY BROUGHT OUT THAT IT HAS TO DO WITH STUDENTS.

NOT SURPRISING BECAUSE IT'S THE STUDENTS WHO ARE ASKED.

THEN IT HAS TO DO WITH EVERYONE.

IT HAS TO DO WITH COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

SO THIS SHOWS US THE POWER AGAIN OF QUALITATIVE DATA IN BRINGING OUT THE IDEAS OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THEN WE MOVED ON, HAVING LEARNED FROM THESE CITIES AND LOOKED AT, AT, UH, INDICATORS THAT WE CAN CONSIDER IN COMING UP WITH OUR EQUITY ATLAS. SO WE STARTED WITH DEMOGRAPHIC AND SOCIAL INDICATORS, AND HERE ARE SOME THAT WE WE THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT.

THE FIRST ONE BEING DEMOGRAPHIC.

WE KNOW THAT CLIMATE VULNERABILITY IS INTRICATE AND IT INVOLVES A NUMBER OF FACTORS SUCH AS RACE, ETHNICITY, AGE, INCOME, TRANSPORTATION, ACCESS, LOCATION AND OFTEN ALL THESE FACTORS ARE COMPOUNDED.

SO RECOGNIZING THIS COMPLEXITY ENABLES MORE EFFECTIVE STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS CLIMATE INEQUITY.

FOR EXAMPLE, AGE PLAYS A BIG ROLE IN ONE'S VULNERABILITY TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

THE ELDERLY MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY ARE MORE PRONE TO HEALTH CONDITIONS THAT CAN MAKE THEM MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO CLIMATE HAZARDS.

THIS INDICATOR CAN THEREFORE PROVIDE INSIGHTS INTO THE FAIR DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES, OPPORTUNITIES AND OUTCOMES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

MOVING ON TO LOOK AT ECONOMIC FACTORS.

FACTORS LIKE INCOME DISPARITIES, WEALTH GAPS, EMPLOYMENT RATES, BUSINESS OWNERSHIP, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES CAN ALL BE IMPORTANT INDICATORS OF SOCIAL EQUITY. HIGH LEVELS OF UNEMPLOYMENT CAN LEAD TO INCREASED POVERTY.

THEREFORE, INCOME EQUALITY AND IS AN IMPORTANT SOCIAL CHALLENGE THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT.

EMPLOYMENT IS A KEY INDICATOR THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.

DISCRIMINATION WILL LIMIT JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND WILL GIVE MORE VULNERABILITY TO, UH, UNDERPRIVILEGED GROUPS, AND THIS WILL CONTRIBUTE TO MORE INCOME INEQUALITY.

WE CAN LOOK ALSO AT TRANSIT ACCESSIBILITY, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT INDICATOR ENSURING RESIDENTS CAN EASILY ACCESS VITAL SERVICES THROUGH PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. AND THIS FOSTERS CONNECTIONS TO EMPLOYMENT, EDUCATION, HEALTHCARE AND SOCIAL ACTIVITIES.

SO THIS INCLUSIVE SYSTEM CAN BRIDGE GAPS FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES OR LIMITED FINANCIAL MEANS, AND THIS CAN PROMOTE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO ESSENTIAL RESOURCES AND OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES.

MOVING ON TO HOUSING INEQUITIES, WE NOTICE THAT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT INDICATOR IN FLAGSTAFF.

WE FOUND THAT FLAGSTAFF IS FACED BY A CHALLENGING REAL ESTATE LANDSCAPE, WITH MEDIAN HOME VALUES EXCEEDING THE NATIONAL AVERAGE BY 150,000. THERE HAS BEEN A 147% INCREASE IN PRICES OVER THE LAST DECADE, AND THESE HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO HOUSING UNAFFORDABILITY.

HOWEVER, ON A GOOD NOTE ALSO, WE OBSERVED THERE WAS A NOTABLE 15% INCREASE IN OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS AS OF 2021.

THESE HOUSING DYNAMICS ARE IMPORTANT AS WE THINK ABOUT OUR EQUITY ATLAS AND COUPLED WITH TRANSIT ACCESSIBILITY CHALLENGES, THEY CONTRIBUTE TO A BROADER EQUITY CONSIDERATIONS AS WE COME UP WITH OUR OWN ATLAS.

THEN WE WENT ON AHEAD TO LOOK AT THE INDICATORS OF CLIMATE INEQUITY, OF WHICH IN FLAGSTAFF WE HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER HERE ARE IMPORTANT ONES

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IT IS IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFY THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE AT HIGH RISK OF WILDFIRES AND ASSESS THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON THE RESIDENTS FOR FLOODS.

SIMILAR. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO EVALUATE VULNERABILITY TO FLOODING EVENTS AND THE CAPACITY TO RECOVER FROM SUCH DISASTERS.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO ASSESS DROUGHTS BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY LEAD TO A DECREASE IN THE VULNERABILITY OF WATER RESOURCES FOR THE COMMUNITY, IN THE AVAILABILITY OF WATER RESOURCES FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND LOWER INCOME INDIVIDUALS AND COMMUNITIES OFTEN FACE DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACTS TO DURING DROUGHTS DUE TO VARIOUS SOCIO ECONOMIC FACTORS. WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT AIR QUALITY, DISPARITIES IN EXPOSURE TO AIR POLLUTION, AND THE ASSOCIATED HEALTH RISKS.

THE HEALTH RISKS FORMED BY AIR POLLUTION CAN ALSO BE DEPENDENT ON AGE, PREVIOUS HEALTH RISKS, LOCATION AND OTHER FACTORS.

WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT URBAN HEAT.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS URBAN HEAT AND VEGETATION DISPARITIES TO MITIGATE HEAT ISLAND EFFECTS.

VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, INCLUDING THOSE OVER 65 UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS AND THOSE WITH DISABILITIES, FACE HEIGHTENED RISKS, SO IMPLEMENTING MEASURES SUCH AS INCREASED VEGETATION AND WIDESPREAD ACCESS TO AIR CONDITIONING CAN EFFECTIVELY COMBAT THESE CHALLENGES AND OFFER PROTECTION TO THE MOST VULNERABLE.

THERE IS SNOW ALSO IN FLAGSTAFF, AND WE KNOW HOW SNOW IMPACTS TRANSIT, TRANSIT ACCESSIBILITY, AND IT CAN QUICKLY TRANSITION FROM BEING JUST A SNOW ISSUE TO A HEALTH AND SAFETY RISK IF PEOPLE CANNOT ACCESS HEALTH IN SUCH TIMES.

SO THIS SPEAKS AGAIN INTO OUR PLAN AND HOW WE PLAN EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS.

SO I WILL HAND OVER NOW TO MY COLLEAGUE TO TAKE US ON ON WHAT WE DID WITH THIS INFORMATION.

DWAYNE. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

I'M GOING TO TAKE US THROUGH THE LAST TWO STEPS THAT GRACIE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS THE DATA THAT WE COLLECTED THAT LED INTO THE MAPPING.

SO I'LL SHOW YOU A FEW OF OUR SELECT MAPS THAT WE'VE CREATED IN THIS PROCESS, AND A TOOL THAT WE THINK IS PRETTY POWERFUL FOR SHARING INFORMATION ABOUT THIS KIND OF WORK, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO USE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SO, UM, THE, THE MAPPING PROVIDES.

YOU KNOW, THE SPATIAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE THE DATA THAT WE COLLECTED AND THE DATA BY ITSELF IS USEFUL.

BUT NOT AS EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

DIRECTLY WHERE IT IMPACTS DIFFERENT PARTS OF OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO THIS IS A WAY TO TURN THIS.

THIS USEFUL AND INFORMATIVE DATA INTO SOMETHING THAT'S VERY POWERFUL.

AND. BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE IS IS FORCING OFTENTIMES NOT NECESSARILY AT THE BEST TIME INVESTMENT IN IMPROVEMENTS TO TO HELP WITH THE ADAPTATION OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

UM, IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDO SOME INEQUITABLE WRONGS THAT HAVE BEEN PERPETRATED OVER THE TIME.

OVER A VERY LONG HISTORY, IN FACT.

SO THIS IS A CHANCE TO TO IDENTIFY THOSE, VISUALIZE THEM.

AND THEN HOPEFULLY WITH THE.

THE EQUITY PLAN ADDRESSED THEM.

SO THE PROCESS WE USED, WE LOOKED AT, UH, THE KEY EQUITY AND CLIMATE INDICATORS, AS TONGA SHARED.

AND THEN WE IDENTIFIED.

UH, THE GPRS DATA THAT THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR SHOWING, UH, SOME OF THE SOCIAL AND CLIMATE INEQUITIES.

AND THEN WE ALSO CREATED A BASIC GIS STORY MAP.

AND THAT'S THE TOOL THAT WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE TO SEE IT, YOU'LL SEE IT DOES A VERY EFFECTIVE JOB OF.

IN A LINEAR FASHION.

SHOWING WHAT? WHAT THE KEY ISSUES COULD BE.

UH, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF CAUTION.

SO AS GRACIE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T CREATE ANY DATA.

WE JUST WENT OUT AND FOUND PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DATA.

AND. AND THERE'S SOME GREAT DATA OUT THERE AND THERE'S SOME DATA THAT THAT CAUTION IS WARRANTED.

SO THIS IS A SNIPPET OF.

UH, A GRADING SYSTEM THAT WE, WE PUT TOGETHER ON ALL THE SOURCES OF DATA FOR MAPPING AND THAT THIS DATA, THIS TABLE IN FULL FORM, WILL BE INCLUDED IN IN THE FINAL REPORT, WHICH WE'LL PROVIDE TO YOU LATER.

AND YOU SEE ONE OF THE DATA AREAS WAS THE ACTIVE FIRE MAPS.

AND. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S GOOD DATA, IT'S A GOOD MAP.

AND IT HAS SOME POTENTIAL ISSUES WITH, WITH ACCURACY DEPENDING ON THE, THE TYPE OF.

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FIRST, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH ONE ON FLOODPLAINS AND MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME.

SO THIS IS LOOKING AT.

THE RED IS KNOWN RURAL FLOOD PLAINS IN THE FLAGSTAFF AREA AND.

ON THE. THE RIGHT IS A LEGEND WHICH SHOWS THE COLORS FOR EACH OF THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOMES.

AND SO WHERE THE LIGHTER COLORS INTERSECT THE FLOODPLAINS, THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE POTENTIALLY, UM, LOWER ABILITY AT A HOUSEHOLD LEVEL TO ADAPT TO THE CHALLENGES OF FLOODING.

AND HERE'S THAT. THAT MAP ON.

HOUSING UNIT RISK.

SO THIS HAS TWO TWO BITS OF DATA.

ONE THE GREEN AREAS ARE CENSUS BLOCKS WHERE THE AVERAGE AGE IS OVER 65.

SO SOME OF THE UM MOBILITY AND HEALTH RISK ISSUES THAT TONGI HIGHLIGHTED, YOU KNOW, WOULD EXIST IN THESE AREAS.

THE RED IS SHOWING THE HOUSING UNIT RISK.

THIS IS, UH, A MEASURE OF HOW LIKELY A FIRE BEING IN THAT AREA IS GOING TO HOW LIKELY THERE WILL BE DAMAGE TO THE HOUSING UNITS.

SO IT DOESN'T SHOW THE RISK OF FIRES IN THOSE AREAS.

THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT MAP, I THINK.

VERY USEFUL MAP.

BUT THIS ONE JUST SHOWS WHAT HAPPENS IF FIRE HAPPENS WHERE THESE PEOPLE LIVE.

TANGUAY ALSO TALKED ABOUT TRANSIT, PROXIMITY, AND THIS IS A MAP OUTLINED IN BLUE THAT SHOWS, UH, PROXIMITY TO THE MOUNTAIN LION BUS ROUTES AND.

IT'S A. IT'S A PRETTY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.

UM, THIS DOESN'T OVERLAY WITH WITH INCOME OR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION.

BUT IT'S A GOOD IT'S A GOOD HIGHLIGHT OF HOW.

HOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT STILL DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO TRANSIT EASILY.

THEY HAVE A LONG, LONG DISTANCE TO TRAVEL TO GET TO A TRANSIT CENTER.

AND THEN FINALLY A MAP SHOWING THE PROXIMITY TO PARKS AND OPEN SPACES.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS.

UH, THE. THE OPEN AIR.

THE ACCESS TO RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES THAT PARKS AND OPEN SPACES AFFORDS AND.

YOU KNOW AGAIN.

A LOT OF LOT OF PARKS AND OPEN AREAS, BUT STILL MANY PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE AS GOOD ACCESS TO THAT VALUABLE RESOURCE THAT FLAGSTAFF PROVIDES. UM.

AS, AS A RESULT OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE PEOPLE LIVE.

SO. I MENTIONED THE STORY MAP.

THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL.

AND. PART OF OUR MAPPING TEAM.

UH, PUT THIS TOGETHER.

USE SOME OF THE SAME DATA AND PHOTOS THAT WE'VE USED IN OTHER PLACES.

BUT, UH, IT'S A GREAT TOOL FOR ONE VISUALIZING AND TWO, UH, CREATING AN EASY PATH TO UNDERSTANDING THE DATA THAT WE'VE COLLECTED. SO HERE ALONG THE TOP ARE THE FOCUS AREAS.

AND THEN STATEMENTS ABOUT THEM.

FIRE AND.

YOU KNOW, SO DIFFERENT RISKS.

SO. FLOOD.

AIR QUALITY, WHICH IS A REAL PROBLEM HERE WITH THE FIRE.

AND THEN THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

CAN GO BACK AND.

CONTINUE TO SCROLL AND SEE SOME OF THE SAME MAPS THAT THAT WE'VE BEEN SHOWING, BUT IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY TO PRESENT IT THAT MIGHT BE MORE CONSUMABLE FOR A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO TONGI TO WRAP IT UP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DWAYNE, FOR SHOWING US THAT.

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UM, AS WE THINK ABOUT THE EQUITY ATLAS AND HOW WE COME UP WITH IT AS FLAGSTAFF.

WE HAVE NOTICED IN OUR RESEARCH THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

THERE IS NEED FOR CONTINUOUS COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND STAKEHOLDERS FOR DYNAMIC PROBLEM SOLVING.

ALSO, THIS WILL ENSURE THAT DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES ARE INCORPORATED FOR A REFLECTIVE EQUITY ATLAS.

AND THEN WE ALSO NOTICE THE NEED FOR COMPREHENSIVE DATA INTEGRATION.

DWAYNE STARTED BY PUTTING OUT, UM, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT DATA.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DATA IS ACCURATE AND RELEVANT.

AND SO THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE SPATIAL AND SOCIAL DATA SETS SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RELIABLE DATA.

AND THERE'S NEED FOR COLLABORATIVE DATA SOURCING.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN PARTNER WITH STAKEHOLDERS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MULTIFACETED DATA.

AND THERE IS NEED FOR EQUITY FOCUSED DATA COLLECTION.

THERE IS NEED FOR US TO ACTUALLY COLLECT DATA SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING EQUITY TO UNDERSTAND CHALLENGES AND DISPARITIES.

THIS WILL INFORM DECISION MAKING WITH A COMPREHENSIVE RESOURCE.

AND THEN MOVING ON TO TECHNOLOGY AND ACCESSIBILITY.

WE NOTICED IN OUR RESEARCH THAT WE NEED A USER FRIENDLY DESIGN.

THAT IS WHY WE CAME UP WITH A STORY MAP.

WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS PALATABLE, UH, TO THE GENERAL AUDIENCE.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PRIORITIZE ACCESSIBLE TECHNOLOGIES FOR DIVERSE AUDIENCES, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THERE IS ENGAGEMENT THAT WILL ENHANCE, UM, INTERACTIVE FEATURES IN WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH.

ALSO, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO WORK ON PUBLIC AWARENESS, TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE PROJECT'S OBJECTIVE AND TO EMPOWER INDIVIDUALS FOR THE WIDESPREAD UTILIZATION OF THE ATLAS IN DECISION MAKING AND COMMUNITY WELL-BEING.

MOVING ON TO OUR CONCLUSION.

THIS IS NOT CONCLUSION OF THE ATLAS PROJECT, BUT OF THE RESEARCH THAT WE DID.

OUR RESEARCH PROVIDES A COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING OF ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS AND SOCIAL VULNERABILITIES, INFORMING THE SUBSEQUENT DEVELOPMENT OF AN EQUITY ATLAS. THIS EQUITY ATLAS COULD HELP MEET CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN GOALS BY SHOWING HOW SOCIAL AND CLIMATE INDICATORS INTERSECT ACROSS THE FLAGSTAFF COMMUNITY. ONGOING COLLABORATION CANNOT BE UNDERSTATED, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO ENSURE ANY FUTURE EQUITY TOOLS ARE RESPONSIVE TO COMMUNITY NEEDS.

AS WE COME TO THE END OF OUR PROJECT, THERE ARE OUTPUTS THAT WE CAME UP WITH AND ONE OF THE OUTPUTS IS A REPORT THAT WILL SUBMIT BY MONDAY NEXT WEEK.

AND ALSO WE HAVE A STORY MAP THAT DUANE SHOWED TO US.

AND SO THOSE WERE SOME OF OUR OUTPUTS.

WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT AND FOR LISTENING TO US THIS AFTERNOON.

WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS AND TO INTERACT WITH YOU THIS AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FOR ANY OF THE STUDENTS COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE? THANK YOU MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THIS.

THIS WAS OVERWHELMINGLY IMPRESSIVE AND REALLY VALUABLE INFORMATION.

I THINK THE THE NUMBER ONE THING I WAS STRUCK BY WAS ACTUALLY THE YOU ONLY TOUCHED ON IT BRIEFLY, BUT THE TRANSIT MAP THAT THAT WAS SHOWN, I THOUGHT IT WAS PARTICULARLY TELLING IN SOME OF WHAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF BOTH HOW WE APPROACH ANSWERING QUESTIONS LIKE WHO BEARS RESPONSIBILITY FOR DIFFERENT ADAPTATIONS IN NOTICING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE THE TRANSIT ROUTES ARE PRIMARILY IN LOWER INCOME AREAS, WHICH SUGGESTS THAT PEOPLE IN THOSE AREAS HAVE MORE RESPONSIBILITY FOR USING THAT AS ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION VERSUS PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO CARS, WHO LIVE FURTHER OUT AND HAVE MORE ACCESS TO WEALTH.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S IT PROVIDES A REALLY CLEAR CHALLENGE TO US TO RETHINK SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

AND I THINK THAT'S A REALLY VALUABLE PERSPECTIVE FOR US TO HAVE AS WE LOOK INTO CLIMATE ADAPTATION AND, AND THE DIFFERENT APPROACHES THAT, UM, THAT THIS SORT OF MEASUREMENT CAN, CAN PROVIDE US WITH.

SO THANK YOU FOR FOR SHARING THAT INFORMATION.

I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU IN TERMS OF, UM, THIS SORT OF EQUITY INDEXING AND AND MAPPING.

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I THINK YOU KIND OF TOUCHED ON THAT A LITTLE BIT IN, IN YOUR INTRODUCTION TO THIS INFORMATION, UM, THAT THERE'S THAT NEED TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE DISPARATE IMPACTS THAT, THAT DIFFERENT APPROACHES CAN HAVE.

BUT I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH, UH, THERE'S ANY SORT OF BUILT IN WAYS TO FORECAST HOW THINGS MIGHT HAVE IMPACTS ON PARITY OR DISPARATE IMPACTS TO COMMUNITIES WHEN WE START ADAPTING SOME OF THESE SOLUTIONS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT GETS MAPPED IN AS WELL OR KIND OF FORECAST AS PART OF THIS, OR IS THAT KIND OF A DIFFERENT PROCESS? YOU KNOW, WE WE CAN ASSERT THINGS THAT ARE SPATIAL IN NATURE.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF. FOR EXAMPLE WITH THE BUS ROUTE MAP.

IF YOU HAD AN IDEA OF.

WHERE THE WRITERS WERE COMING FROM.

COULD YOU COULD POTENTIALLY MAP THAT AGAINST.

YOU KNOW, NEED OR THE TYPE OF WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW WELL THAT TRANSIT LINE IS SERVING THEM.

BUT IT LIKELY REQUIRES COLLECTING DATA THAT THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW.

THANKS. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

I'M GOING TO ADD MY CONGRATULATIONS TO AN AMAZING PRESENTATION.

UM, CAN I JUST ASK, HOW LONG HAVE YOU ALL BEEN IN YOUR GRAD PROGRAM? IS THIS YOUR FIRST YEAR, OR IS THIS YOUR SECOND FIRST SEMESTER? THE SECOND YEAR? WHAT'S THE. IT'S A MIXED GROUP.

UM, SOME OF US ARE IN OUR FINAL SEMESTER.

SOME OF US ARE IN THE FIRST SEMESTER.

SOME OF US, IT'S A IT'S A MIXED GROUP.

IT'S OKAY. OKAY.

WELL, IT, UH, I THOUGHT YOU ALL MAYBE WERE AT THE END OF YOUR PROGRAM, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST AMAZING.

SOMETIMES THE FIRST SEMESTER STUDENTS DON'T QUITE ALWAYS.

BUT THEY'RE HERE WATCHING.

SO. GOOD.

YOU GUYS GOT SOME GOOD, UM, UH, EXAMPLES OF OF HOW TO DO RESEARCH AND ESPECIALLY HOW TO START THE PROCESS WITH VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES. AND SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.

THIS IS NOT AN EASY TASK TO DO.

UM, SO I MADE A LOT OF COMMENTS, WROTE A LOT OF COMMENTS TO MYSELF, UM, AND PROBABLY NOT AS MANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR YOU, PROBABLY MORE QUESTIONS FOR US AS A CITY OR AS A COMMUNITY.

UM, AND SO I WILL JUST GO AHEAD AND KIND OF MAKE THOSE COMMENTS RIGHT NOW.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT VERY SERIOUSLY IS WHERE WE'RE PUTTING OUR HOUSING.

WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO PUT IT IN, UH, THE THREE HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES.

WE HAVE TO TAKE IT OUT.

UM, AND SO TONIGHT, WE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE CLIMATE AND WHAT IT'S DOING AND HOW WE NEED TO, TO HELP THAT.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SAY, NOT IN MY BACKYARD.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE CONTINUED.

AND I'M LOOKING FOR JENNY AND WHOEVER ELSE IS HERE FROM SUSTAINABILITY.

UM, YEAH. YOU'RE HIDING BACK THERE, I SEE YOU.

UM, THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND TO REALLY PUT OUR MOUTH WHERE OUR WORDS ARE OR OUR ACTIONS WHERE OUR MOUTH IS.

SO, UH, JUST THINK ABOUT THAT.

UM, ALSO, IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS PROJECT, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD BE, BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE DONE AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF WORK, AND IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO LET THIS WORK GO.

SO I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE US TO THINK ABOUT CONTINUING ON AND WHATEVER I CAN DO FROM MY OTHER ROLES, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, TO HELP.

UM, ALSO, UM, ISSUES REGARDING, UM, I THINK STORY MAPS, YOUR STORY MAPS ARE AMAZING.

THOSE ARE GREAT BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE GET KIND OF ALL CAUGHT UP IN SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF, BUT THE STORY MAPS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT, AND IT REALLY DOES HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS.

AND SO I WOULD SAY STORY MAPS ARE JUST A GREAT TO CONTINUE WITH THIS.

UM, THE LAST THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT, UM, THESE ARE SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES, AND SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES ARE DIFFICULT.

PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THEM.

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AND THIS INCLUDES THE ISSUES WITH OUR UNSHELTERED RELATIVES THAT WERE PEOPLE SPOKE ABOUT TONIGHT.

SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT IN THIS PROCESS.

YOU'RE IN THIS, UH, UM, RESEARCH THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING.

SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, AMAZING PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT OBVIOUSLY WENT INTO THIS.

AND KUDOS TO YOUR INSTRUCTOR, TO YOUR TEACHER.

PROFESSOR, WHERE ARE YOU? UH, YES.

UM, SO TO TAKE A GROUP AND TO PULL THEM TOGETHER AND TEACH THEM TO DO THIS TYPE OF WORK IS AMAZING.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.

AND THOSE ARE INTO MY COMMENTS.

PROBABLY NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

I ECHO THAT COMPLIMENT THAT THIS WAS A WONDERFUL, VERY IMPRESSIVE PRESENTATION.

IT WAS VERY EVIDENT THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT AND WORK INTO IT.

UM, SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS, AND I KNOW A LOT OF THIS WAS MAINLY A ROADMAP AND OVERVIEW.

UM, I WAS A LITTLE CURIOUS ABOUT THE HOUSING UNIT RISK.

UM, IF ONE OF YOU COULD STAND UP AND JUST EXPLAIN THAT TO ME.

I'M SORRY. MAYBE I GLAZED OVER.

UM, AND I ALSO WANTED TO COMMENT ABOUT, UM, THE, THE EQUITY PART OF IT AS FAR AS COMMUNICATION AND GETTING RESOURCES OUT TO PEOPLE THAT MAYBE NOT ARE USED TO GOING TO THE INTERNET OR OTHER ACCESSES.

I WAS AT, UM, A THE JOE MONTANA MONTOYA UM, ACTIVITY CENTER TODAY SERVING A LUNCH, AND IT BROKE MY HEART THAT I SPOKE TO A WOMAN WHO SAID, IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THE COUNTY? BECAUSE TWO OF MY FRIENDS HERE, THEIR HUSBANDS PASSED AWAY AND THEY, UH, THEY PAID OFF THEIR HOMES, BUT THEY COULDN'T AFFORD THEIR TAXES, AND THEY LOST THEIR HOMES, AND THEY'RE LIVING IN A TRAILER AND FREEZING.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST REALLY SADDENED THAT WE'RE STILL, UH, HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO COMMUNICATE TO PEOPLE.

THERE WERE RESOURCES OUT THERE THAT COULD HELP THEM AND SAVE THEIR HOME, AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HOMELESS.

AND THAT REALLY TUGGED AT MY HEART AND RE-ENERGIZED ME TO, UM, KEEP THAT IN THE FOREFRONT, THAT WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE TO PEOPLE IN EVERY, WHEREVER THEY ARE.

AND SO HAVING ACCESS TO, UM, UH, FLOOD MITIGATION, IF IN A LOWER INCOME AREA, UM, THINGS THAT HELP THEM SAVE ON THEIR UTILITY BILLS AND STUFF.

UM, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT REMINDER, AND I KNOW I DON'T.

I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE, BUT, UM, THAT WE WE THINK OF THAT AND NOT JUST PAT OURSELVES ON THE BACK.

IF WE RUN A COUPLE OF SOCIAL MEDIA ADS OR DO SOMETHING ON A, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY SAID, WELL, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE, IT'S LIKE, WELL, I'M PRETTY SURE THESE PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE INTERNET AND THEY WERE SENIORS AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO RE-EMPHASIZE THAT, THAT IT IS IMPORTANT AND, AND OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SERIOUSLY IMPACTED BY A LOT OF THIS.

AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REACHING THEM AND GIVING THEM THE INFORMATION.

BUT IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE HOUSING UNIT RISK, UM, JUST SO I DON'T HAVE TO LOSE SLEEP OVER IT AT NIGHT.

NO. OKAY, SO JUST TO CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION, UM.

THE HOUSING UNIT RISKS MAP.

HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS THAT THERE YOU WERE JUST MAPPING OUT TO WHERE MAYBE THERE WAS MORE DENSITY IN TREES, AND SO IF THERE WAS A FIRE, IT WOULD BE MORE IMPACTFUL.

I WAS JUST CONFUSED ON WHAT THE TERMINOLOGY WAS.

THAT'S CLOSER. AND I'M HAPPY TO TO.

RESPOND BACK VIA EMAIL WITH.

FROM THE PERSON WHO PULLED THE DATA TOGETHER.

WHO CAN. PROBABLY PROVIDE A BETTER ANSWER THAN I CAN.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST I WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE I DIDN'T QUITE GRASP THE RELEVANCY OF IT.

YES, FOR SURE.

WHEN WE HAVE, UM, MORE TREE DENSITY, WE'RE GOING TO BE AT HIGHER RISK.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THAT SLIDE.

SO JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, YEAH.

YEAH. YOU GUYS DID A FABULOUS JOB.

AND IT WAS GREAT TO SEE OUR YOUNG ADULTS BE SO ENGAGED AND SO PASSIONATE ABOUT GETTING THIS INFORMATION.

SO THANK YOU. X.

COUNCIL. QUESTIONS.

COMMENTS? I WANT TO ECHO THAT THIS IS THE TYPE OF OF RESEARCH AND

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SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO US, BECAUSE YOUR WORK HELPS US MAKE BETTER DECISIONS.

SO I CAN'T THINK OF A MORE APPLIED, UM, USE FOR ALL OF THIS RESEARCH, UM, THAN INFORMING POLICY IN HOW OUR COMMUNITY MOVES FORWARD.

SO. BRAVO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO STICK AROUND IF YOU'D LIKE TO.

THANK YOU. NO ONE EVER TAKES ME UP ON THAT.

THANKS. YOU DID GREAT.

ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON DOWN TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER NINE.

DESIGN OF PICKLEBALL COURTS AT BUSHMASTER PARK.

[9. Design of pickleball courts at Bushmaster Park. Discussion on current design and layout. ]

WHY, THANK YOU, MAYOR DAGGETT.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO DO, LIKE, A STRETCH OR ANYTHING? STAND UP.

SEVENTH INNING SHREDS THE SEVENTH INNING STRETCH.

THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AMY HAGEN, ASSISTANT PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR IN THE PROS DEPARTMENT, HERE TO UPDATE THIS GROUP ON THE DESIGN OF PICKLEBALL COURTS AT BUSHMASTER PARK.

BEFORE WE START HITTING THESE SLIDES, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT TONIGHT THERE ISN'T A VOTE THAT IS OCCURRING.

IT'S LITERALLY A REPORT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE DIRECTIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED IN THE PREVIOUS SEVEN MONTHS.

WE GOOD WITH THAT.

ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO.

OH MY. THAT LOOKS TERRIBLE.

WELL, THAT'S A BUMMER.

I'M GOING TO READ THROUGH THAT.

WHO KNOWS HOW THAT ENDED UP THAT WAY.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY IN COUNCIL DIRECTIONS SINCE THAT MAY 16TH APPROVAL.

UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THE LEFT AND THEN MOVE OVER TO THE RIGHT AND HIT THESE ITEMS ONE BY ONE.

SO, YOU KNOW, ONE ITEM THAT WAS HEAVILY DISCUSSED AND DIRECTION PROVIDED TO STAFF MOVE THESE COURTS AS FAR NORTH AS POSSIBLE AS YOU CAN TO CREATE THAT SEPARATION FROM THOSE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINES.

SO AS WE GET THROUGH SOME OF THESE DESIGNS, THE COURTS ARE LAID OUT AS FAR NORTH AS POSSIBLE WITH SOME, UM, SOME PRETTY COOL IDEAS THAT STAFF AND THE DESIGNERS CAME UP WITH. AND ALSO, WE COULD NOT IMPACT ANY OF THOSE EXISTING AMENITIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN THIS COMMUNITY PARK.

UH, SOME OF THE DIRECTION PROVIDED WAS REMOVE AS FEW TREES AS POSSIBLE.

UH, TREE. I'VE GOT TREE COUNTS ON WHAT IS PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED WITH AN ADDED FEATURE FROM A STAFF LENS, WHERE WE WANT THIS ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENT.

WE'LL DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THAT IN A FUTURE.

SLIDE TWO. THEN IT WAS A RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL WITH SOME CHANGES TO THE CITY CODE ON PARK HOURS AND HOURS OF LIGHTS.

THAT'S BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.

I WAS HERE ON NOVEMBER 7TH.

WE WORKED THROUGH THAT.

IT IS AN AN ORDINANCE AND IT TOOK EFFECT ON DECEMBER 7TH LAST WEEK.

SO WE'VE GOT THE PARK HOURS ADJUSTED IN GENERAL, PARK HOURS, PLUS THE LIGHTING ON OUR SPORT COURTS IN OUR SYSTEM.

SO THESE ARE THE MAIN, MAIN UM, DIRECTION ITEMS THAT WE HAD.

SO SINCE WE'VE LAST DISCUSSED ANYTHING ON THIS FROM THE MAY 16TH DATE ON THAT APPROVAL OF CONTRACT, THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES TO THE CONTRACT. UM, IT'S NO LONGER A DESIGN BUILD WITH ONE PARTNER.

INSTEAD, STAFF REACHED OUT.

WE'VE GOT THREE ON CALL LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FIRMS AVAILABLE TO US.

SO CONTACTED A FIRM AND TALKED IT THROUGH.

IT HAD HAD ALL THREE FIRMS ACTUALLY PROVIDE A PROPOSAL PRICE HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH ONE OF THEM.

AND WE'LL GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THAT TOO.

SO JUST FOR REMINDER FACTORS, OUR PREVIOUS CONTRACT WE DISCUSSED ON MAY 16TH, IT WAS FOR EIGHT COURTS, EIGHT BRAND NEW PICKLEBALL COURTS WITH LIGHTS FOR ROUGHLY $500,000 AND OVERLAY ON THE EXISTING BASKETBALL AND TENNIS COURTS.

THOSE HAVE EXISTING LIGHTS FOR A LITTLE OVER 420,000, COMING UP WITH A NOT TO EXCEED OF $920,643 FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT. SO THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT.

NEW CONTRACT WITH LOGAN SIMPSON DESIGN.

THEY ARE THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FIRM ON IT, AND THEY'VE GOT SOME OF THEIR SUBCONTRACTORS WITH PEAK ENGINEERING FOR STORMWATER ASPECTS AND GRADING AND RIGHT

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GENERAL ACRYLICS IS STILL THE CONSTRUCTING CONTRACTOR ON THE PROJECT AND THE SCOPE REMAINED THE SAME.

EIGHT PICKLEBALL COURTS OVERLAY ON EXISTING COURTS.

THE ONLY FUNDS EXPENDED TO DATE HAVE BEEN $58,000, $458,465 ON JUST THE DESIGN.

THAT'S IT.

OUT OF THAT, NOT TO EXCEED 920,000.

OKAY, SO WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON EVER SINCE THAT? THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF DUE DILIGENCE ON DESIGN.

YOU KNOW, THE VERY FIRST THING YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS START TO CHARTER THIS TEAM.

SO WE GOT THIS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FIRM ON CONTRACT, THE SUBCONTRACTORS FOR THE OTHER FEATURES.

WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO A LARGE PARK DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY CITY STAFF.

SO WE'RE STARTING TO GATHER THAT TEAM, UM, WE STARTED TO DO ON SITE VISITS TO THE LOCATION.

THAT'S KEY WITH THIS LOCATION, WITH THE AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION THAT'S THAT WE'VE HELD, UH, COMMUNICATION ON THE DIRECTION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO CITY STAFF.

THAT WAY, EVERYBODY ON THE TEAM KNEW WHAT WE ARE TO ATTEMPT TO DESIGN.

WE HOLD BI WEEKLY MEETINGS.

THOSE HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH A HANDFUL OF ISSUES.

UH, HAVE PERFORMED A SURVEY OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS THERE WHICH STAFF ALWAYS KNEW WERE ADDING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.

THERE'S CONSIDERATIONS TO THE ELECTRICAL AND LIGHTING LAYOUTS WHEN THERE'S EXISTING LIGHTING.

UM, AND WE OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO REPEAT ANY PREVIOUS ISSUES THAT EXIST TODAY WHEN IT COMES FROM A MAINTENANCE LENS OR A FUNCTIONALITY LENS.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON EVER SINCE WE'VE LAST CHATTED.

UM. DANG IT.

LOOK AT THAT. THAT LOOKS TERRIBLE.

UH, ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET INTO SOME OF THE CONCEPT DESIGN.

AND I DO HAVE A HANDFUL OF SLIDES HERE THAT CAN ZOOM IN ON SOME OF THESE PIECES.

SO THE DESIGN ARE THE WHAT WHAT WE IMMEDIATELY DISCOVERED THE BEST WAY TO MOVE PICKLEBALL COURTS AS FAR NORTH AS POSSIBLE, AS PUT THEM ON THE EXISTING TENNIS COURTS.

THERE'S TWO EXISTING TENNIS COURTS.

THEY HAPPEN TO NOT BE REGULATION SIZE.

I THINK THEY USED TO BE BASKETBALL 30 YEARS AGO WERE CONVERTED TO TENNIS WITH JUST A COATING.

SO THEY'RE NOT EVEN THE PROPER SIZE.

WE CAN FIT SIX COURTS ON THOSE AND THAT MOVES THESE THINGS AS FAR NORTH AS POSSIBLE.

THEN WE CREATED JUST A TWO COURT POD DIRECTLY TO THE.

IT WOULD BE DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THOSE SIX COURTS.

AGAIN, THAT'S PUTTING ALL PICKLEBALL AS FAR NORTH AS POSSIBLE.

UM, IN DOING SOME DUE DILIGENCE OUT THERE WITH THE BASKETBALL COURT, THE REASON WHY IT'S IN SUCH TERRIBLE SHAPE AND IT'S GOT ENORMOUS CRACKING.

THERE IS A GIGANTIC CALIPER PONDEROSA PINE THERE THAT IS JUST HEAVING THAT.

SO WE IMMEDIATELY DECIDED THIS TEAM, WE'RE MOVING THESE THINGS NORTH, SO IT'S NO LONGER AN OVERLAY ON TOP.

LET'S NOT REPEAT MISTAKES.

IT'S A DEMO.

BUILD THE COURTS. THEY ACTUALLY SHIFT 25FT TO THE NORTH TO GET THEM OUT OF ANY OF THESE ROOT BARRIERS AND OTHER ISSUES.

IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN IT'S CREATING.

THEN THE TWO TENNIS COURTS AND THOSE END UP BEING THE PROPER SIZE FOR ACTUALLY FOR TWO TENNIS COURTS IN THAT PLAY.

AND THEN IN TAKING A LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS ON THIS, WE STARTED TO DISCUSS.

IT'D BE REALLY NEAT TO HAVE LIKE A CENTER SPINE OR A CENTER CONCOURSE AREA COURT.

ALL OF THESE SPORT COURTS BE ACCESSED OFF A CENTRAL LOCATION.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH THAT ONE FOR ONE TREE REPLACEMENT BASED ON HOW MANY TREES START TO COME DOWN.

SO THAT REALLY STARTED TO DEVELOP WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND I'LL DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO EVEN THAT ONE FOR ONE TREE PLACEMENT HERE IN A SECOND.

ANOTHER VIEW MORE POPS US OUT A LITTLE BIT IN AT THE LOCATION STARTS TO SHOW SOME OF THE DIMENSIONS.

THERE'S A LOT OF WALKWAYS THAT EXIST OUT THERE TODAY.

A FEW OF THEM WOULD NOT BE DEEMED ADA COMPLIANT, SO THIS TAKES CARE OF THAT TOO.

STARTS TO JUST MAKE GET EVERY ALL THE AMENITIES MINGLING WITH THIS NEW AMENITY.

UM, SO THIS IS A GREAT SNAPSHOT OF THAT.

ALSO TO THE SOUTH STARTS TO SHOW SOME OF THE STORMWATER OR LAD DETENTION ON THAT.

FOR THAT FACTOR. AGAIN WE'RE ADDING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITHIN THOSE CONSTRAINTS AS ANYBODY WOULD WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT.

AMY, CAN I POP IN WITH A QUESTION? YOU CAN ALWAYS POP IN WITH A QUESTION.

THE UM, SO THAT IS THE EXISTING RAMADA, RIGHT? UH, YES. IT'S LISTED AS EXISTING SHADE STRUCTURE.

THAT IS ONE OF THE EXISTING.

THAT IS THE GARDEN RAMADA.

OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT MOVING.

NO. NOT MOVING.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. ZOOM IN JUST ON THESE EIGHT PICKLEBALL COURTS.

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SO AT LEAST YOU CAN GET A LITTLE BIT OF A BETTER VIEW OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

AGAIN, THAT CENTER SPINE WALKWAY, THAT CENTER CONCOURSE THERE'S GOING TO BE COULD BE SEATING OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH WE HEAR QUITE A BIT FROM ALL OF OUR ATHLETICS AND DEFINITELY A TREE HEALTH OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS.

THIS IS THE SOUTHERN HALF.

SO STILL A CONTINUATION OF THAT CENTRAL SPINE SEATING AREA.

WE CREATE QUITE THE SEATING AREA WITH MOVING THAT BASKETBALL COURT 25FT TO THE NORTH.

SO THAT IS A HUGE BENEFIT AND JUST PROVIDES A LITTLE GREATER OPPORTUNITY THERE, INCLUDING TREE HEALTH OPPORTUNITIES.

SO WE GOT CORRECT SIZING.

SO WE GET TO CORRECT A FEW THINGS WITH THIS.

WE'VE GOT MAINTENANCE LONGEVITY BECAUSE WITH MOVING THAT BASKETBALL COURT 25FT TO THE NORTH, THE ANTICIPATION IS THIS THING'S NOT GOING TO CRACK AND LOOK LIKE I BELIEVE SOME OF THE BASKETBALL PLAYERS CALL IT GRAND CANYON EAST AND GRAND CANYON WEST.

UM, WE HAVE AND WE HAVE COLOR SCHEME OPPORTUNITIES.

SO WE'VE REACHED OUT TO A HANDFUL OF THE USER GROUPS TO START DISCUSSING SOME OF THOSE IN ORDER TO PREPARE THIS CONCEPT DESIGN.

SOME GREAT EXAMPLES OF SOME RECENT COURTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH SOME OF THESE COLOR SCHEMES, UM, INCLUDING THAT'S YELLOW STRIPING THERE ON A TURQUOISE AND TERRACOTTA BASKETBALL COURT, AND YELLOW STRIPING FOR PICKLEBALL IN A COMMUNITY IN ARIZONA.

UH, AND SOME MORE OF THOSE MORE NEUTRAL COLORS THAT I THINK A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ARE LEANING TOWARD WHEN THEY'RE COLORING SOME OF THESE COURTS NOWADAYS, I DO WANT TO TOUCH THEN ON THIS ONE FOR ONE TREE REPLACEMENT.

YOU KNOW, FOR THIS COURT LAYOUT THAT'S JUST BEEN DISPLAYED, THERE ARE 26 PONDEROSA PINES THAT WILL BE FELLED OR REMOVED.

UM, STAFF DETERMINED EARLY ON.

WE'RE DOING A ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENT.

THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

WE ARE STEWARDS OF OUR PARK GROUNDS.

UH, MANY OF THESE ARE A DUAL TRUNK, WHICH IS NOT A HEALTHY MEASURE, BUT WE STILL COUNTED THOSE THEN AS A QUANTITY OF ONE, EVEN IF IT HAD DUAL TRUNKS.

THAT'S TWO TREES IN OUR EYES.

UH, WE CERTAINLY ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING FORWARD MORE DROUGHT TOLERANT.

THAT GARNERS QUITE THE IMPORTANCE.

AND IT DOES TO US, TOO, AS MAINTAINERS OF THOSE OF THOSE ASSETS, 90% OF THESE 26 TREES WERE LESS THAN 12IN IN CALIPER.

UH, THERE ARE A FEW THAT ARE GREATER.

NOT GOING TO LIE LIKE BUT IT'S THEY'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TAKING DOWN GIGANTIC TREES.

I DO THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE OUT THERE.

UM, AND THEN WITH THE ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENT, WE'RE ENABLING A DIFFERENT SPECIES VARIETY IN THIS PARK.

THERE AREN'T THERE IS NOT THAT MUCH VARIETY IN THIS PARK AT ALL.

THAT IS A DIRECT TIE TO TREE HEALTH.

AND THEN WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE CORRECT SPACING.

SO WE WON'T HAVE THIS DUAL TRUNK ENVIRONMENT CREATING SOME POOR FOREST HEALTH.

UM, PLUS ADDS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD SOME SHRUBS AND GROUND COVER TO WITH THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT.

SOME GREAT EXAMPLES OF THE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED THAT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IN SOME OF OUR URBAN AREAS AND OTHER LOCATIONS.

IT'S THE AN AUTUMN MAPLE BLAZE, VERY DROUGHT TOLERANT, DOES WELL IN OUR CLIMATE.

THERE'S ALSO WHAT'S CALLED A PURPLE ROBE.

IT'S CALLED THE PURPLE ROBE LOCUST IN A ZOOM IN, BECAUSE THAT THING'S GOING TO POP SOME PRETTY GORGEOUS FLOWERS OUT THERE AND A FEW OF THE SHRUBS.

AGAIN, THE IDEA WAS, HOW CAN WE CREATE SOME DIFFERENT COLOR OUT THERE WITH THIS TYPE OF AN AMENITY AND COMPLEMENT WHAT THE AMENITY IS? AND SO THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE SHRUBS THAT HAVE CURRENTLY BEEN PROPOSED THAT ARE IN OUR, UH, ZONING CODE WITHIN, WITHIN OUR LANDSCAPE CRITERIA THERE. SO WHAT ARE SOME NEXT STEPS.

AND THIS IS A3D AERIAL VIEW OF WHAT HAS BEEN CURRENTLY DESIGNED AT A CONCEPTUAL STAGE, INCLUDING SOME SOME OF THE COLORS.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S NEXT.

STAFF NEED TO TAKE THIS PROJECT TO IDS.

THAT'S OUR INTERNAL DESIGN REVIEW.

MY INTENTIONS ARE TO DO THAT PRETTY QUICKLY AFTER TONIGHT TO GET THAT PART OF THE PROCESS STARTED.

UH, THEY'LL NEED TO BE AN ESTIMATION OF COSTS.

NOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CHANGES SINCE MAY, MOVING THAT COURT TO THE NORTH THAT IMPACTS LIGHTING, THAT IMPACTS A HANDFUL OF THINGS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO THEN NEED TO TAKE A CONCEPT PLAN, GET AN ESTIMATION OF COST.

AGAIN, THAT'S ON STAFF TO DO.

UM, NOW THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE UPON APPROVAL OF CONCEPT PLAN.

I WOULD GUESS THAT IDS, OUR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IS GOING TO ASK GO TO SITE PLAN THEN GO TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.

AND THAT'S THE RIGHT PROCESS TO TAKE.

SO THIS ISN'T A CONCEPT PLAN STRAIGHT TO BUILDING PERMIT AND GO OUT AND START DIGGING SOME HOLES KIND OF THING.

BUT AGAIN, GREAT VIEW, INCLUDING A NIGHTTIME VIEW OF WHAT THESE COURTS COULD LOOK LIKE THERE ON THE PROPERTY AT BUSHMASTER PARK.

I THINK SOME IMPORTANT THINGS TO BRING UP.

YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS. WHAT IS THE CURRENT PROGRAMING THAT PROS CURRENTLY MANAGES ON SITE VERSUS WHAT WOULD THE PROPOSED PROGRAMING BE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALL

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THEY'RE DUAL STRIPED ON THE CURRENT TENNIS AND BASKETBALL.

AND THEY HAVE DEDICATED HOURS OF 8 A.M.

TO 12 P.M. SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

AND THEN THE TWO TENNIS AND TWO BASKETBALL COURTS HAVE THEIR DEDICATED HOURS FROM 12 P.M.

TILL CLOSE ON THOSE COURTS.

UM, THERE ARE PORTABLE NETS ON SITE FOR PICKLEBALL PLAYERS TO PLAY, SO WHEN IT'S OUTSIDE THOSE DEDICATED HOURS, BY ALL MEANS SOMEONE COULD GRAB A PORTABLE NET, SET UP AND PLAY PICKLEBALL. BUT WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO TRY WITH SIGNAGE AND DEDICATING HOURS TO HELP MANAGE THAT.

SO WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THESE EIGHT NEW COURTS BUILT? I THINK WE WOULD SEE A CHANGE.

THE EIGHT NEW COURTS WOULD BE 100% DEDICATED PICKLEBALL PLAY.

SO THERE'S NO REASON FOR ANY SIGNAGE.

THERE'S NO REASON FOR ANY TIMES OF THE DAY.

THERE'S EIGHT COURTS DEDICATED FOR PLAY, THE TWO NEW TENNIS AND THE TWO NEW BASKETBALL.

THEY GET TO BE DEDICATED FOR TENNIS AND BASKETBALL PLAY.

THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE DUAL STRIPE.

THAT'S WHAT'S PROPOSED.

BUT THERE'S NO DEDICATED HOURS ON THOSE COURTS FOR PICKLEBALL PLAY, WHICH I THINK IS A KEY FACTOR IN THIS.

UM, WE CAN MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE FOR PICKLEBALL PLAY VIA PERMIT.

MAYBE THERE'S A TOURNAMENT THAT COMES TO TOWN AND THEY NEED MORE THAN EIGHT COURTS.

THAT'S A PERMIT THROUGH OUR DIVISION TO PROCESS THAT, REVIEW ALL THE IMPACTS TO IT AND APPROVE IT OR NOT APPROVE IT.

THERE COULD BE A PERMIT FOR REGULAR ATHLETIC PLAY, NO DIFFERENT THAN OUR LITTLE LEAGUES OR OUR SOCCER LEAGUES OR OUR ADULT ATHLETICS THAT WE PROVIDE.

MAYBE THERE'S A TUESDAY NIGHT PICKLEBALL OR EVEN A TUESDAY NIGHT BASKETBALL.

WE CAN PROVIDE THAT PERMIT.

AND THEN THAT WAY THE PERMIT HOLDER IS ENSURED THAT THEY'VE GOT THAT DEDICATED PLAY ON THAT NIGHT, PER A PERMIT ISSUED BY OUR DEPARTMENT.

THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH THIS, THAT MAY HELP EASE SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE PAST.

YOU KNOW, THESE PORTABLE NETS STAFF ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THEM.

THEY CAN'T JUST BE READILY AVAILABLE WHEN THERE'S NOT DEDICATED PLAY.

AND I THINK WE'RE THE RIGHT STAFF TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

WE CAN FIGURE OUT MECHANISMS TO ENSURE THAT THOSE PORTABLE NETS DIRECTLY TIED TO WHATEVER PERMIT, MAY OR MAY NOT BE ISSUED.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU. HERE'S ANOTHER AERIAL VIEW OF WHAT THE COURTS LOOK LIKE WITH A LOT OF THE WALKWAYS, THAT CENTRAL SPINE, THE LANDSCAPING, THE ONE FOR ONE TREES. AND AT THE SOUTH THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THE LID BASINS.

WHAT QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE? THANK YOU. AMY.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT INFORMATION.

UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE BASKETBALL COURTS THAT ARE DUAL STRIPED.

AND IT'S DUAL STRIPED BECAUSE WE CAN USE THAT FOR, UH, PERMIT PLAY, LIKE FOR TOURNAMENTS OR WHATEVER.

CORRECT. WHAT HAPPENS IF.

PICKLEBALL USERS GET ON THE COURTS.

THEY WOULD BE WITHOUT A PERMIT, SO THAT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED.

PLAY. OKAY, SO ANYONE COULD CONTACT PARKS DEPARTMENT OR ANYONE IN PROSE.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR NEW PARK RANGER POSITION.

THAT DOES IT. THEY'RE NOT UNFORTUNATELY AVAILABLE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, BUT THEY DO HAVE SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENT HOURS THAN OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF TO HELP EDUCATE AND HELP WITH SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS OUT IN THE FIELD, BECAUSE SOMEONE COULD COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS BRING THEIR OWN NET? IF WE DON'T MAKE THESE NETS AVAILABLE UNLESS IT'S VIA PERMIT, THEY COULD BE BRINGING THEIR OWN NET AND ATTEMPTING TO PLAY, BUT THEY WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO PLAY OKAY.

AND THEY WOULD BE ASKED TO LEAVE.

THEY WOULD BE ASKED TO LEAVE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

UM. I THINK THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, MAYBE THE TIME BEFORE THAT, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, NOISE BUFFER PLANTS AND TREES.

I DIDN'T REALLY SEE THAT IN THIS PRESENTATION.

IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF THE BUILD, BUILD DESIGN OR WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT BARRIER FOR NOISE? SO WHEN WE APPROVED THIS CONTRACT IN MAY, IT DID NOT INCLUDE NOISE ABATEMENT.

SO STILL DOES NOT TODAY.

WE HAVEN'T ELECTED TO MAKE CHANGE THAT DECISION.

IT WAS A LENGTHY CONVERSATION BETWEEN LIGHTS, NO LIGHTS, NOISE ABATEMENT WALLS, NO NOISE ABATEMENT.

WALLS FROM A STAFF LENS WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THIS CONCEPT DESIGN AS ORIGINALLY APPROVED TO CREATE AND SHOW ALSO THE TREES. IT DRASTICALLY CHANGES THE TREES WHICH CAN ACT AS A LITTLE BIT OF A BARRIER.

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WE DON'T HAVE ANY CRITERIA ON THE FOLLOW IN OUR CITY CODE REGARDING NOISE IN PARKS.

SO WITHOUT THOSE BARRIERS, IT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO PROPOSE OR CHANGE WHEN IT WASN'T A PART OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.

OKAY, I GUESS I, I MY MEMORY SERVED ME THAT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, COMPROMISES AND OPTIONS THAT, UM, WE WERE WHEN THE PETITION LAST CAME UP, WE SAID WE COULD ADDRESS THAT NOISE ABATEMENT AFTERWARDS, AND SO I SO I WILL WANT TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, IN THE PLANS MOVING FORWARD.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST ME ONE OF SEVEN, BUT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO WEATHER.

AND I KNOW THAT WE NEED A STUDY TO SAY WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN.

THESE TREES AND BUSHES HELP WITH, UM, NOISE VOLUMES, AND WE'VE PUT THEM IN INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO COME BACK AND AND COMPLAIN.

BEING PROACTIVE.

SO. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. NOT A.

WERE YOU WANTING TO? I'M SORRY.

COULD I PLEASE JUST ADD ONE THING? I DID JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE TREES THAT WE ARE ADDING, YOU CAN SEE.

I'LL TRY TO USE THE CURSOR.

BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE TREES THAT WE ARE PLANNING IN THIS ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENT, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A ROW HERE, THERE'S PLENTY ALONG HERE.

THERE'S ROWS.

AND WITH MOVING THE COURTS NORTH, UM.

THAT THAT HELPS WITH THOSE IMPACTS AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS PLANNED.

WE JUST MIGHT NOT BE CALLING THEM FOR NOISE ABATEMENT, BUT I THINK IT CAN DOUBLE THAT WAY.

BUT I DON'T SEE ANY ON THE SOUTH.

THAT BOTTOM IS THAT SOUTH RIGHT HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT WHITE CURSOR MOVING AROUND.

THOSE ARE ALL BRAND NEW TREES.

OKAY. PERFECT. THANKS. YEAH.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET. I'M SORRY.

PLEASE CONTINUE.

OH, YOU DIDN'T EVEN ASK A QUESTION.

WE WERE STILL ON THE OTHER ONE, I KNOW, YEAH.

IT'S OKAY. MY APOLOGIES.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE AND I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

AMY. I JUST WANTED TO TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS WORK.

I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A VERY TOUGH PROJECT, AND IT'S CLEAR THAT YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING A LOT OF ATTENTION INTO, UM, DOING WHAT YOU CAN TO ADDRESS THE DIFFERENT CONCERNS AND, AND COME UP WITH THIS IN THE BEST WAYS POSSIBLE.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE A 100% SATISFACTION WHATEVER HAPPENS HERE, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD TRULY MEAN A LOT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT THIS MUCH WORK AND EFFORT INTO ADDRESSING THE DIFFERENT CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME UP, LISTENING TO THE CONCERNS SHARED BY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE THIS WORK.

SO IT'S JUST IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED.

AND I'M REALLY, UM, GROWING IN EXCITEMENT ON THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DONE HERE, UM, TO MAKE THIS WORK BETTER.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE YOU FINISHED? COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE? I AM ALL DONE, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

THANK YOU. AND I TOO WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE.

YOU MET ME OUT THERE A FEW TIMES, AND WE TALKED WITH THE RESIDENTS AND EACH OTHER AND KIND OF CAME UP WITH, I THINK.

I THINK I HELPED WITH SOME IDEAS ON THIS FINAL CONCEPT, AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE TIME THAT YOU TOOK ON THIS.

I'M WONDERING ONE QUESTION WITH THE NEW PLANTS YOU WERE SAYING THEY WERE DROUGHT, DROUGHT TOLERANT.

DO YOU NEED IRRIGATION PUT IN OR ARE WE GOING WITH PLANTS THAT DON'T NEED THAT? WE WILL. GREAT QUESTION.

WE WILL STILL NEED IRRIGATION, THANK GOODNESS.

THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF IT THERE ON SITE WITH A LOT OF THAT TURF AND OTHER TREES AND DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS.

SO IT WON'T BE THAT LARGE OF AN EXPENDITURE TO BRING IT OVER.

YOU KNOW, ANY TREES, EVEN DROUGHT TOLERANT, SHOULD BE WATERED FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS, AND THEN YOU CAN USUALLY CUT OFF THE WATERING AS LONG AS THEY'RE ESTABLISHED AND THEY GO KIND OF THING.

UM, THAT CAN BE A SIMILAR ATTITUDE TOWARD SHRUBS TOO, BUT THAT CAN USUALLY BE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE.

AND THEN WE HOPE THAT WE GET SOME NORMAL PRECIPITATION TO HELP OUT WITH THAT TOO.

THANK YOU. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT USING DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF TREES AND SHRUBS AND ADDING SOME COLOR TO THE AREA.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK.

THANKS, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

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YEAH, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I'M FRUSTRATED THAT I DON'T THINK THESE COURTS SHOULD BE THERE.

THEY'RE TOO CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTS.

BUT I THINK WE'VE BEAT THAT HORSE TO DEATH, SO I WON'T LET IT LIE.

ON THE OTHER HAND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS BROUGHT UP, IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT NOISE MITIGATION, WE SHOULD.

I DON'T THINK THOSE TREES ARE GOING TO MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE.

I THINK WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS A SOUND WALL, WHICH PROBABLY WOULDN'T MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, BUT IT MIGHT HELP A LITTLE.

THE OTHER THING I'M THINKING WE CAN DO IS THERE'S VARIOUS TYPES OF PICKLEBALL PADDLES AND PICKLEBALL BALLS.

UH, SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ONLY ALLOW THE ONES THAT ARE KNOWN TO BE MORE QUIET.

THEY CAN STILL HAVE AN EXCELLENT PICKLEBALL EXPERIENCE, BUT IT WILL REDUCE THE NOISE TO THE MEMBERS.

NOW, I NOTICE THERE'S NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT.

THE. SPEAKING TO THIS ISSUE, I HAD ONE RESIDENT CALL ME, UH, AND SHE SAID.

SHE SAID, NO ONE'S GOING TO COME.

SHE SAYS, WE'RE JUST GIVE.

WE GAVE UP THEIR.

THE. SO I GUESS MY ONLY POINT IS THAT JUST BECAUSE NOBODY'S HERE DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T CARE.

THEY'RE JUST SO FRUSTRATED THAT THEY'RE BEYOND TALKING ANYMORE.

IT'S IT'S EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA.

SO TO REPEAT MY SUGGESTION, I THINK WE SHOULD LIMIT THE PICKLEBALL PADDLES AND PICKLEBALL BALLS TO THE ONES THAT ARE KNOWN TO BE A LITTLE BIT QUIETER. SO I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER THAT.

THANK YOU. AND IS THAT A POSSIBILITY TO TO REQUIRE A CERTAIN KIND OF BALL OR PADDLE ON A COURT? THERE COULD BE AN ATTEMPT.

I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW IT WOULD BE ENFORCED OR MITIGATED IF NOT BEING FOLLOWED.

THERE HAVE BEEN RECENT ARTICLES, JUST EVEN THIS PAST WEEKEND, OF SOME NEW GENIUS IDEAS FROM THOSE THAT MANUFACTURE THIS, WHETHER IF IT'S THE BALLS OR THE PADDLES. AND I DO THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE OF THAT AS TIME GOES BY.

SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A TREND THAT IS OCCURRING TO ATTEMPT TO QUIET THE SPORT.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I THINK EVERYONE HAS EXPRESSED HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT AND ENERGY STAFF HAS SPENT ON ON THIS PROJECT.

AND EVEN THOUGH THERE AREN'T PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT, I KNOW THAT FOLKS REALLY CARE ABOUT THIS.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SATISFY EVERYBODY.

THERE'S JUST NO WAY THAT WE WILL DO THAT.

EVEN IF WE PUT IN WALLS, PEOPLE ARE STILL NOT GOING TO BE SATISFIED.

AND SO I GUESS I'M JUST NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN, IN TRYING TO, TO, TO DO THAT.

AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT THEY SAY OR HOW THEY FEEL.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT MEANS.

THAT MEANS THAT SOMETIMES YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT, AND EVERYBODY HEARS THAT AND LEARNS THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

AND JUST ON ANOTHER NOTE, THOSE MAPLE TREES, THEY GROW REALLY, REALLY BIG.

I'VE GOT ONE IN MY FRONT YARD AND IT IS AMAZING.

SO IN 15 YEARS THEY WILL TAKE OVER THE SKY ALMOST.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS THOUGH OF COURSE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

YEAH, JUST KIND OF JOG MY MEMORY.

WE HAD A VERY SIMILAR DISCUSSION ABOUT WHEN THE CITY HAD PLANNED TO PUT PICKLEBALL COURTS RIGHT IN BACK OF SOMEBODY'S HOUSE, JUST LIKE THIS.

AT THE SITE WHERE WE WERE REPURPOSING THE OLD MAINTENANCE YARD.

BUT THAT'S PROBABLY BEFORE YOU WERE IN COUNCIL MRS HARRIS.

BUT WOULD THE CITY DO? WHAT DID THE CITY COUNCIL DO? WE MOVE THOSE PICKLEBALL COURTS, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT IN THIS CASE.

ALL RIGHT, I THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER TEN, PUBLIC WORKS, STREET SECTION.

SNOW OPERATIONS.

[10. Public Works Streets Section Snow Operations Presentation and Discussion Discussion of the Public Works Streets Section Snow Operations upcoming winter season preparations.]

PREPARE TO BE DAZZLED.

I LOVE THE EXPECTATION YOU SET FORTH.

AND YOU'RE NOT WRONG.

SO. WELL, GOOD.

UH, YEAH. I'M GOING TO CALL IT EVENING, JUST TO BE OPTIMISTIC HERE, BUT, UM.

GOOD EVENING ALL.

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WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER SOME OF THE STREETS OPERATIONS TONIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS SOME OF THOSE OPERATIONS IN RELATION TO SNOW OPERATIONS.

AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE GOING INTO THIS SEASON? UM, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ON THIS OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE SOME NEW OPERATIONAL ENHANCEMENTS GOING INTO THE SEASON.

AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF OUR STAFFING AND JUST SOME OF THE OVERALL CHALLENGES WE SEE THROUGH THE SEASONS AND SOME OF THE MITIGATION EFFORTS THAT WE'RE TAKING TO GET AHEAD OF THOSE CHALLENGES.

SO MY NAME IS SAM BECKETT.

I AM THE STREET SECTION DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

AND LET'S JUMP STRAIGHT INTO IT.

HERE'S A QUICK REVIEW OF WHAT WE'LL GO OVER TONIGHT.

WE'LL GO OVER THE OPERATIONS, THE EQUIPMENT, THE STAFFING.

WE'LL GO OVER OUR CURRENT SNOW POLICIES THAT RESIDE WITHIN OUR SNOW MANUAL.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS AND THE PARKING ORDINANCE, ALWAYS A BIG ONE EACH YEAR.

AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THOSE POST EVENT OPERATIONS.

SOME PEOPLE FORGET THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT SNOWING.

ONCE THAT STORM ENDS, OUR CREWS USUALLY WORK FOR THE NEXT WEEK.

TWO WEEKS.

THIS LAST WINTER THEY WERE ON FOR ALMOST THREE MONTHS AFTER THE LAST SNOWFALL WORKING ON CLEANUP.

SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SO AS FAR AS EQUIPMENT GOES, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 16 OF OUR TEN WHEEL SNOWPLOWS.

SO THE BIG, BIG SNOW PLOW TRUCKS, WE'VE GOT FOUR OF THE SMALLER ONES.

YOU KIND OF SEE THOSE IN THOSE DOWNTOWN CORRIDORS, SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES WHERE IT'S NOT AS EASY TO GET THE BIG TRUCK AROUND IN THERE.

SO WE TRY AND OFFSET THAT WITH THOSE.

THE MOTOR GRADERS YOU ACTUALLY SEE PICTURED HERE, THEY KIND OF HAVE THAT BIG BLADE UNDERNEATH THEM.

THEY ALSO HAVE A WING OFF TO THE SIDE.

THEY REALLY HELP CLEAR THE ROADWAY, GET A WIDER PATH THROUGH THERE.

THEY'RE ALSO MORE EFFECTIVE.

WHEN WE GET INTO THOSE THICKER ICE SITUATIONS, THEY CAN HELP CUT SOME OF THAT OUT OF THERE.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IS OUR FRONT END LOADERS.

WE USUALLY UTILIZE THOSE IN THE CINDER ICE CINDER OPERATIONS JUST FOR LOADING THE TRUCKS.

THIS YEAR HERE WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON GETTING ALL OF OUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT OUT IN OPERATIONAL.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE OPERATING THOSE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN WE HAVE HISTORICALLY.

AND THEN WE STILL HAVE OUR TRUSTY SNOW BLOWER AND WE'LL USE THAT IF NEEDED.

WE'LL SEE WHAT THE SEASON BRINGS.

BUT WITH THE EARLY PREDICTIONS FROM THE WEATHER SERVICE, I THINK THEY WERE REFERRING TO IT AS SUPER EL NINO.

SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THAT MEANS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS YET, BUT WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE.

WE'LL GET INTO STAFFING.

THIS HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST ONE FOR STREETS COMING INTO THIS WINTER.

UM, ULTIMATELY, WE'RE WE'RE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN WE WERE LAST YEAR GOING INTO THE SEASON.

SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE, UM, SOME CHANGE IN OPERATION AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE A DELAY.

I'M CALLING IT A DELAY IN SERVICE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CHANGING OUR SERVICE DELIVERABLES, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SEE AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME WHERE SERVICE MIGHT BE DELAYED SIMPLY DUE TO STAFFING.

WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WITH OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM AS WELL, TRYING TO BRING IN SOME CONTRACTED SERVICES.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THAT, UM, AS WE MOVE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INTO THIS.

BUT AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MANY OF OUR PARTNERS ACROSS THE NATION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BEST PRACTICES ARE OUT THERE, AND REALLY, HOW DO WE GET AHEAD OF SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY IMPACTS, NOT JUST OUR MAINS AND ARTERIALS, BUT HOW DO WE GET INTO THOSE COMMUNITIES A LITTLE BIT FASTER, CLEAR THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT? WE BELIEVE THAT THAT CONTRACTED SERVICE IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST PIECE.

YEAH. MAYOR, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

DID YOU SAY HOW MANY STAFF MEMBERS WE'RE DOWN OVER LAST YEAR? SO OVER LAST YEAR, LAST YEAR WE WENT INTO THE SEASON ABOUT 30% VACANCY.

WE WENT INTO THIS SEASON HERE, JUST OVER 50% VACANT.

WE DID I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT WE DID HAVE A NEW HIRE START TODAY.

UH, JOHN WAS WITH US AND HE WAS MOVING AROUND THE FACILITY.

AND SO WE'RE KIND OF GETTING HIM FAMILIAR WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.

WELCOME, JOHN.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

WE ALSO HAVE A NEW SUPERVISOR THAT WILL BE ON BOARD.

STARTS CHRISTMAS DAY.

UM, APPARENTLY HE COULDN'T MAKE IT ON CHRISTMAS DAY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HIM START THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS.

UM, BUT YEAH, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THESE GENTLEMEN SITTING UP HERE, UH, WE'VE GOT RICHIE HEARN WITH THE STREETS MANAGER, AND THEN GREG CRAIG, ONE OF OUR STREET SUPERVISORS, AND WE ALSO HAVE AN HONORARY STREET SUPERVISOR IN THE BACK, BACK THERE.

UM, SO JUST.

CASE. REBECCA AND AMY ARE LISTENING.

HE IS WITH THE PROSE TEAM, BUT IF HE EVER WANTS TO COME OVER TO STREETS, WE WOULDN'T ARGUE WITH IT.

UH, SO THESE ARE THINGS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT RECRUITMENT PROCESS.

I WANT TO GIVE A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO HR.

THEY'VE BEEN EXTREMELY RESPONSIVE AND EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN HELPING US GET THROUGH THIS.

I KNOW WE'RE ONE OF THE.

THE DIVISIONS ARE ONE OF THE SECTIONS THAT HAVE SEEN THE BIGGEST IMPACT IN THIS AS FAR AS STAFFING THIS YEAR, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO PULL OUT OF IT.

I HOPE WE PULL OUT OF IT HERE SOON, BUT UNTIL WE DO, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THIS NEXT SLIDE HERE, WE'VE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT OF OUR OPERATIONS TO HELP

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HOPEFULLY. GOING INTO THE SEASON.

I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE TO NOTE HERE IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 16 STAFF TOTAL FOR OUR OPERATORS, AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SUPERVISORS.

THAT IS JUST OUR OPERATORS.

I NOTE THAT OFF TO THE SIDE, BECAUSE THERE ARE 26 SNOW ROUTES THAT HAVE TO GET COMPLETED ON ONE SHIFT, ONE 12 HOUR SHIFT.

SO THOSE SHIFTS AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT HERE NEXT.

UM. THEY NOW RUN FROM NOON TO MIDNIGHT.

MIDNIGHT TO NOON IS THE WAY WE'RE SET UP.

WE PREVIOUSLY HAD THE SHIFT CHANGE AT 10 A.M.

AND 10 P.M..

WHAT WE SAW WITH THAT, AS WE'VE BEEN EVALUATING OUR OPERATION, IS WE SAW A WEIRD OVERLAP WITH SCHOOL IN THEIR DELAYED START.

SO WE WOULD SEE OUR CREWS WERE COMING IN AND WE WOULD HAVE THIS, THIS WINDOW OF TIME WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH SERVICE DELIVERABLES HAPPENING.

AND THEN WE HAD MORE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD TRYING TO GET THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL.

WE HAD THE BUSSES MOVING AROUND.

SO THIS WAS KIND OF AN EASY TRANSITION FOR US.

SO IT WAS A NO BRAINER.

IT WAS TIME TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, MOVE IT TO NOON.

THAT WAY WE HAVE GOOD COVERAGE EVEN ON THOSE DAYS WHERE WE SEE A DELAYED START, AND WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST OPERATION HERE.

EXCUSE ME ONE MORE TIME, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY. YEAH.

WHENEVER I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T CATCH IT.

UM, ONE OF THE OTHER ONES YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE ON THE LEFT SIDE ARE DAY OPERATION.

THERE'S BEEN A SMALL TRANSITION IN, UM, THE STAFFING HERE SIMPLY BECAUSE AS WE'VE BEEN EVALUATING THIS, WE FOUND THAT IN THE DAYTIME OPERATIONS, WE JUST ARE LESS EFFECTIVE AND LESS EFFICIENT.

WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE MOVING AROUND IN THE DAYTIME.

WE GET A TON OF VISITORS.

WHEN IT SNOWS. WE RUN INTO MORE ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC, WITH ACCIDENTS, WITH EMERGENCY CALLS.

UH, WE JUST DON'T SEE THE EFFICIENCY.

SO WHEN WE'RE SHORT STAFFED, WHAT WE'VE DECIDED TO DO IS SHIFT MORE OF OUR OPERATIONS TO OUR NIGHT SHIFT, WHERE WE MAKE MORE PROGRESS, WHERE WE THINK WE CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVE AND MORE EFFICIENT IN THOSE OPERATIONS.

SO MOVING INTO THE SEASON HERE AS IT SITS, CURRENT STAFFING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO OF OUR OPERATORS ON.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO OF OUR SNOW TEMPS WORKING.

SO A TOTAL OF FOUR STAFF.

THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO TRUCKS ON EACH SIDE OF TOWN.

AND THAT IS GOING TO BE THE ENTIRETY OF THAT DAY.

CREW. NOW AS WE HIRE THIS MAY CHANGE.

SO AS WE HIRE, OUR GOAL IS TO GET THAT DAY CREW UP TO WHERE WE HAVE 4 TO 6 ON THAT DAY CREW, AND THEN WE'LL OFFSET THE NIGHT CREW AND STACK THAT UP A LITTLE BIT.

WE STILL SEE THE EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS JUST BETTER IN THAT NIGHT OPERATION, OUR NIGHT OPERATIONS.

THAT'S THE REST OF THE CREW BASICALLY RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE THIRD SHIFT THAT WE'VE ADDED.

SO WE'LL HAVE SIX OF OUR OUR STREET STAFF AND THEN 4 TO 6 OF OUR SNOW TEMPS TO HELP SUPPORT THAT.

THIS RIGHT HERE IS SIMPLY THE SNOW PLOWS, THE BIG TRUCKS.

THE NEW SHIFT MOVING INTO THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE OUR GREATER.

AND LOADER SHIFT IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT.

SO IN WAYS AS WE'VE COMMUNICATED WITH MANY OF OUR OUR OTHER PARTNER CITIES, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW ARE THEY MORE EFFECTIVE IN SOME OF THEIR OPERATIONS? LOADERS WERE A BIG TOPIC OF CONVERSATION.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO OF OUR LOADERS THAT WE'VE RETROFITTED WITH PLOWS TO GET INTO SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES WHERE WE STRUGGLE WITH SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, AND THEN THE SMALLER EQUIPMENT WE HAVE JUST ISN'T BIG ENOUGH.

SO WE THINK WHILE THE LOADER IS A VERY LARGE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE AGILE THAN SOME OF OUR OTHER OPERATORS, OUR OTHER EQUIPMENT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT IN THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE THIS FROM AN 8 P.M.

TO AN 8 A.M., RIGHT.

UTILIZING THOSE NINE HOURS, LEVERAGING THAT PARKING ORDINANCE.

SO THAT WAY WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE, WE CAN BE AS EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE.

WE SEE THIS BEING REALLY BENEFICIAL MOVING FORWARD.

HISTORICALLY, WE'VE RAN OUR EQUIPMENT AND OUR TRUCKS KIND OF OVERLAPPED, AND AS THEY WOULD DO THEIR ROUTES IN THE COMMUNITIES, IF THEY NEEDED THEM ON A MAIN OR ARTERIAL, THEY WOULD PULL THEM OFF AND THEY WOULD TIE IN WITH A TRUCK OR SOMEBODY ELSE.

THE EXPECTATION HERE IS WORK ON THOSE ROUTES AND FOCUS ON THOSE ONLY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME TRANSITION AND SOME SHIFTS AND MAYBE DIFFERENT IMPACTS TO OUR MAINS, AND HOPEFULLY A MORE PROGRESS IN OUR SECONDARY COMMUNITY ROADS AND MAKE JUST FASTER PROGRESS IN THERE.

EVEN WITH BEING SHORT STAFFED, WE'RE HOPING TO HELP OFFSET THAT STAFFING WITH THIS PARTICULAR SHIFT.

NOW, HAVING SAID THAT, AS WE STAFF UP, WE THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY BENEFICIAL.

OUR GOAL IS TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE FULLY STAFFED, AND NOT ONLY DO WE RUN THIS HEAVY EQUIPMENT SHIFT FOR THE NIGHT, PERHAPS WE CAN ADD A DAY SHIFT, BUT WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO RUN.

THIS IS THE CURRENT STAFFING AS WE MOVE INTO THE SEASON.

UH, EVERY YEAR WE UPDATE AND WE START MONTHS OUT OUR SNOW READINESS AND OPERATIONS MANUAL.

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WE WERE AT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS CONFERENCE THIS YEAR, MEETING WITH MANY OF OUR OTHER PARTNER AGENCIES AND COLLEAGUES AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW DO THEY HOW DO THEY RUN THEIR OPERATIONS, HOW DO WE DIFFER, HOW DO WE ALIGN, AND HOW DO WE BE MORE EFFICIENT MOVING FORWARD? SO MANY OF THE OPERATIONS, UM, MANY OF THOSE PIECES GET BROUGHT BACK.

WE EVALUATE THEM, AND THEN WE PUT THEM INTO THIS READINESS GUIDE, WHICH WE WE PRINT, AND WE HAVE THEM AVAILABLE FOR OUR OPERATORS AND OUR TEMPORARY OPERATORS SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT EXPECTATION IS GOING INTO THE SEASON.

WE'RE ALSO USING THIS AS WE TALK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL UTILIZATION OF CONTRACTED SERVICES.

IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF THEIR SCOPE OF WORK, RIGHT.

IT DEFINES OUR SNOW OPERATIONS.

IT DEFINES THE CITY EXPECTATIONS.

IT DEFINES THOSE GOALS FOR SNOW OPERATIONS, ICE CONTROL, UM, OUR SIDEWALK POLICIES, THINGS LIKE THAT HELPS THEM UNDERSTAND LIKE THE BIGGER PICTURE. SO RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE SOME PROGRESS IN THAT, THAT CATEGORY.

AND I WANT TO THANK OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE PUT IN, TRYING TO HELP US GET SOME CONTRACTORS ON BOARD.

BEING IT'S THE FIRST YEAR WE'RE KIND OF CATCHING SOME PEOPLE COLD.

THEY'RE GOING, WELL, WE DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS A SERVICE YOU NEED.

YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE EQUIPMENT HAD WE KNOWN.

AND SO WE'RE KIND OF WORKING WITH SOME OF THOSE WHO WE DO KNOW.

THEY HAVE SOME GRADERS, AND WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME, UH, SOME INTEREST IN THAT.

WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH SOME OF THOSE CONTRACTORS.

AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT REALLY HELPS OUT THIS SEASON.

AND THE GOAL WOULD BE TO HAND THEM COMMUNITIES.

SO GIVE THEM AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND SAY, HERE'S THE EXPECTATION.

YOU'VE GOT TO MEET THIS GOAL.

AND WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THESE ROADS OPEN X, Y, Z.

AND IT REALLY HELP US OFFSET OUR OPERATIONS.

AND THIS WAS A PIECE THAT WE ADDED THIS LAST YEAR AS WE HAD OUR POST WINTER OPERATIONS, IS UNDERSTANDING WHAT THOSE PRIORITY ROUTES AND THOSE EXPECTATIONS FOR THOSE PRIORITY ROUTES ARE. SO THIS IS JUST A QUICK BREAKDOWN OF THEM.

PRIORITY ROUTES KIND OF THE MAIN ARTERIALS.

SO BUTLER FOURTH STREET, THINGS LIKE THAT.

CEDAR HILL UH MAJOR HILLS ANYWHERE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MAIN ROADS, MAJOR HILLS, INTERSECTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT SEE THOSE IMPACTS FROM UH, FOREST HILLS, A GREAT EXAMPLE FOREST IS ONE OF THOSE ONES THAT WE WORK REALLY PROACTIVELY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT EATS UP A TON OF RESOURCES WHEN WE DON'T CLOSE THE HILL, IF WE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO KEEP A TRUCK TIED TO THAT HILL CONSTANTLY, AND WE JUST WIND UP SEEING WAY TOO MANY ACCIDENTS.

SO IT'S IT'S SAFER FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S JUST EASIER ON OUR OPERATION IF WE PROACTIVELY CLOSE THAT.

WE TRY AND WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESSES THERE TO ENSURE THAT THEY STILL HAVE SOMEWHAT OF ACCESS, BUT IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE ONES WE TRY AND GET AHEAD OF.

THE DOWNTOWN CORE IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS.

IT'S CONSIDERED A MAIN. AND THEN WE ALSO WORK WITH FUSD AND MOUNTAIN LION TO UNDERSTAND THEIR ROUTES, AND THEY KIND OF OVERLAP WITH ALL OF OUR MAINS.

THE SECONDARY, UH, PRIORITY ROUTES THAT WE CALL THEM ARE THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

AND THEN AS WE GET INTO FURTHER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY ALL KIND OF FOLLOW IN AND JUST TIE OFF.

THIS IS THE EXPECTATIONS FOR THOSE CREWS.

SO AS WE GO ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN THE SCREEN THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE THE EXPECTATION IS WITHIN 12 HOURS AFTER AN EIGHT INCH STORM, ROADS ARE TO BE CLEARED.

AND THAT'S THAT'S REALLY OUR FIRST BENCHMARK.

SO. THE FIRST AND FOREMOST IS REALLY, UH, SNOW OPERATIONS AREN'T REALLY SUPPOSED TO COMMENCE IN THE COMMUNITIES UNTIL AFTER WE'VE SEEN FOUR INCHES OR MORE. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THOSE PLACES WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB AT, AND WE'VE BEEN REALLY PROACTIVE OF IS, YEAH, SOMETIMES THERE'S ONLY TWO INCHES OUT THERE.

WE STILL SEND EVERYBODY OUT AND GO DO THE JOB.

UH, ONE IT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY TO GET FAMILIAR WITH YOUR ROUTE.

IF YOU'RE A NEW OPERATOR TO.

IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GET OUT THERE AND SEE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN IT'S NOT COMPLETELY BURIED, BECAUSE ONCE IT'S COMPLETELY BURIED, IT'S REALLY TOUGH TO SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHERE THOSE CURB LINES ARE OR WHERE SOME OF THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE IS KIND OF HIDDEN IN THOSE SNOW BERMS. SO AS WE WORK FURTHER DOWN INTO THIS, UH, THE EXPECTATION GOES UP TO ROADS CLEARED WITHIN 18 HOURS FROM AN 8 TO 12 INCH STORM.

AND THEN HOPEFULLY WITHIN THAT, ANYTHING OVER 12IN IS THAT 36 HOUR.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN THESE SCENARIOS WHERE WE'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, 18 TO 20IN.

IT JUST TAKES US SOME TIME TO GET THROUGH THOSE COMMUNITIES.

BUT THIS IS THE EXPECTATION THAT GOES INTO THAT SNOW OPERATIONS MANUAL.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE PUT OUT THERE FOR OUR OPERATORS.

SO THEY UNDERSTAND.

I HATE MAPS AND PRESENTATIONS, SO I PUT THESE MAPS IN THIS PRESENTATION.

UH, JUST TO GIVE JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT THOSE, THOSE ROUTES LOOK LIKE AND HOW THEY KIND OF ALL INTERTWINE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO THIS WOULD BE KIND OF THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN THAT SPLITS, UM, OVER THERE AT SWEITZER CANYON.

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THE EVENT. RESPONSIBILITIES FOR STREETS.

ITS 24 HOUR COVERAGE.

ONCE WE SEE A STORM COME IN, THEY STAY ON 24 HOUR OPERATIONS UNTIL THE ROADS GET TO A POINT WHERE THEY'RE CLEAR AND PASSABLE, AND THEN CREWS WILL STAY ON FOR ICE CONTROL FOR WHATEVER EXTENDED PERIOD IT TAKES, UNTIL THOSE ROADS ARE ABLE TO BE LEFT ALONE.

I THINK WE'VE HIT ON THIS MANY TIMES AND YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OVER 700 MILES LANE MILES OF ROADWAY THAT WE MAINTAIN.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 2600 MILES OF ROAD TRAVELED.

IF YOU INCLUDE THOSE CENTER MEDIANS GETTING ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE EDGE OF THE ROAD TO GET ALL THESE ROADS CLEARED ONE TIME.

UM, IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THIS, WE STILL HAVE ALL OF OUR MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS THAT WE WORK ON.

SO THERE'S THINGS I NOTE IN HERE.

THE 48 TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

IF ONE OF THOSE WERE TO GO DOWN, WE PULL WE HAVE TO PULL CREWS OFF TO GO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

THAT IS AN IMMEDIATE SAFETY CONCERN AND IT HAS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO ONE STAY UP WITH OUR SNOW OPERATIONS, BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE SOME, UH, REAL MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS THAT REQUIRE, UM, SOME RAPID RESPONSE IF WE SEE ISSUES WITH THEM.

THE OTHER ONE. FOR WHATEVER REASON, EQUIPMENT LIKES TO BREAK DOWN IN COLD WEATHER, SO WE ALSO WORK WITH THAT.

FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL FLEET SERVICES TEAM WHO ALSO TRANSITIONS OVER TO 24 HOUR OPERATIONS WITH US TO HELP SUPPORT THAT.

AND IT'S KIND OF AN ALL HANDS ON DECK TO ENSURE THAT ALL THESE OPERATIONS STAY UP AND RUNNING, AND THAT WE DON'T RUN WITH MINIMAL EQUIPMENT FOR TOO LONG.

THIS ONE HERE COMES BACK TO WHY WE'RE TRANSITIONING A LITTLE BIT FROM THAT DAYTIME OPERATION, WHICH OUR GOAL IS TO ALWAYS HAVE COVERAGE 24 HOURS A DAY.

BUT MOVING THAT TO WHERE WE SEE THE MOST AND MAXIMIZED EFFICIENCY OF THOSE OPERATIONS, WHAT WE TEND TO SEE A LOT IS DURING THE DAYTIME, WE GET ALL OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE.

WE DON'T SEEM TO GET AS MANY AT MIDNIGHT, BUT WE GET A TON AT NOON OF CALLS FOR SERVICE AND UNDERSTANDING.

WHERE ARE WE GOING TO BE? HOW LONG UNTIL OUR ROADS ARE PLOWED? OR WE HAD AN ISSUE HERE.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO ONE TRY AND GET AHEAD OF IT IN THE EVENING HOURS.

SO THAT WAY WE SEE HOPEFULLY LESS OF THOSE CALLS IN THE DAYTIME, GET THROUGH THOSE DAYTIME HOURS AND THEN DOUBLE DOWN ON IT IN THE EVENING.

THE DAYTIME TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS AND PARKING CONFLICTS.

THOSE ARE, UH, THOSE ARE CHALLENGING AT BEST, BUT THE CREWS DO A REALLY GOOD JOB AT WORKING THROUGH IT.

AND THEN OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS, UH, NEVER REALLY BEEN STRONGER, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE HONEST.

IT'S BEEN PHENOMENAL.

AND SO WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE LIMITED STAFF.

SO WHEN WE HAVE 200 CARS ILLEGALLY PARKED DURING THE DAYTIME, THEY JUST CAN'T GET TO THEM ALL.

AND THEN WE CAN'T STOP OPERATIONS.

WE'VE GOT TO TRY AND KEEP GOING.

IT'S TOUGH TO REMEMBER ALL THE ROADS THAT GET MISSED WHEN, UH, WHEN VEHICLES ARE BLOCKING THOSE ROADS.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS NIGHT SHIFT IS GOING TO HELP WITH THAT.

I NOTED THIS ON HERE BECAUSE.

IN THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING OUT YOUR WINDOW AND YOU GO, I DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE SNOWPLOW OPERATORS SEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING.

THEY DON'T. SO WE ASK THAT WHEN IT GETS TO THAT POINT AND YOU CAN'T SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING, JUST STOP, PULL OVER, LEAVE YOUR LIGHTS ON, LEAVE YOUR EMERGENCY LIGHTS ON AND ENSURE THAT YOU'RE IN THE SAFEST PLACE POSSIBLE.

BUT DON'T MAKE OR ADD TO THE ADDITIONAL RISK THAT'S OUT THERE.

SO WE DO ASK THEM. SO SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE IT'S JUST SNOWING LIKE CRAZY AND THE TRUCK'S JUST SITTING THERE.

IT'S THE SAFEST POSSIBLE THING WE CAN DO AT THAT TIME.

WE DON'T ASK THEM TO COME BACK TO THE YARD.

WE JUST ASK THEM TO FIND A SAFE SPOT ON THEIR ROUTE, PULL OVER, AND USUALLY WITHIN A FEW MINUTES, THEY CAN GET BACK UP AND RUNNING.

THOSE DAYTIME EMERGENCIES THAT COORDINATION WITH FIRE AND P.D..

I HIT ON THAT EARLIER, BUT I MEAN, UM, IT'S IT'S INSTANTANEOUS.

INSTANTANEOUS, IF THAT'S TRYING TO SAY THE WORD HERE, BUT.

WE COORDINATE DIRECTLY WITH DISPATCH.

AND SO WHEN THEY HAVE ISSUES, THEY CALL IT IN FROM THEIR SIDE.

DISPATCH RELAYS IT RIGHT OVER.

AND THEN OUR SUPERVISORS AND RICHIE, THEY'VE GOT RADIOS GLUED TO THEIR CHESTS AND THEY'RE CONSTANTLY IN COMMUNICATION WITH THAT.

AND THEN AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE DURING THE DAYTIME OPERATIONS AND THOSE MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS.

NOW THE STORMS ENDED AND EVERYTHING'S HUNKY DORY.

WE ALL GO HOME, BUT NOT FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO OUR SNOW HAULING OPERATIONS.

SO WHEN WE SEE THE STORM MOVE OUT, WE'LL KEEP SOME TRUCKS READY AND AVAILABLE IN CASE WE HAVE ANOTHER STORM COME IN.

BUT WE'LL BRING IN A DAY CREW TO COME IN AND AND WHAT WE CALL, UH, TEAR DOWN ALL THE TRUCKS, STRIP THEM DOWN.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE TRUCKS HERE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CINDER BLOCKS IN THEM.

THEY DON'T HAVE A PLOW ON THEM.

IT ACTUALLY TAKES A FAIR AMOUNT OF WORK TO TAKE THOSE TRUCKS FROM BEING DRESSED AND READY TO GO, TO GO OUT THERE, DUMP ALL THE CINDERS OUT OF THEM, WHICH YOU HAVE TO RUN THEM OUT

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IT TAKES ABOUT A HALF A DAY TO TAKE THE TRUCKS APART.

UH, WE'LL GET THOSE TRUCKS PULLED APART, AND THEN NOW THEY'RE READY TO HAUL SNOW.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PIECES.

AS WE'VE MET WITH MANY OF OUR COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE NATION, THEY THINK WE ARE JUST OUT OF OUR MIND.

THE FACT THAT WE TEAR DOWN THESE TRUCKS REPEATEDLY AND PUT THEM BACK TOGETHER IN BETWEEN STORMS TO HAUL OUT SNOW.

THIS IS A PIECE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR CONTRACTED SERVICES.

WE THINK IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE MOVING FORWARD, AND WE THINK THAT IT'S REALLY GOING TO MAKE US MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE IN THAT OPERATION.

WE ALSO HOPE IT PROLONGS THE LIFE OF SOME OF OUR EQUIPMENT.

UM, MANY OF OUR PIECES OF EQUIPMENT DON'T HAVE THE MILEAGE FOR REPLACEMENT.

THEY'VE GOT THE YEARS, BUT THEY'RE STILL REALLY GOOD PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.

SO IF WE CAN REDUCE THAT WEAR AND TEAR, WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY GOOD MOVING FORWARD.

THE SNOW HAULING OPERATIONS REALLY START DOWNTOWN.

I THINK WE ALL KNOW AND SEE THOSE THOSE IMPACTS, UH, WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT GET DOWN IN THERE AND THOSE PARKING STALLS, THEY JUST FILL UP.

THE LONGER IT TAKES US TO GET IN THERE, THE MORE ICE PACK THAT GETS, THE MORE BUILD UP WE SEE.

SO OUR GOAL TWO IS TO WORK ON THAT TO ONE.

IF WE CONTRACT SOME SERVICES OUT, WE CAN HOPEFULLY GET IN THERE SOONER AND MORE FREQUENTLY, AND WE SEE MAYBE LESS OF THAT BUILD UP.

AND THEN TWO.

WE FREE UP THAT CAPACITY FOR OUR TEAM TO MOVE INTO THE COMMUNITIES A LITTLE FASTER THAN WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY.

THESE ARE THE OTHER ITEMS HERE.

WE SEE A TON OF DAMAGE AFTER SNOWSTORMS. FOR WHATEVER REASON, CARS TEND TO SLIDE AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND WE SEE A LOT OF SIGN DAMAGE.

WE SEE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE DAMAGE MUCH MANY OF THOSE ITEMS, WE HAVE TO GET OUT THERE PRETTY QUICKLY TO REPAIR THEM.

SO WE'LL HAVE CREWS NOT ONLY DOING HAUL OUT OPERATIONS, BUT BACK INTO MAINTENANCE, BACK INTO THOSE SAFETY ITEMS, AND ENSURE THAT WE GET ALL OF OUR STUFF BACK UP TO CODE AND REGULATION. AND THEN THIS IS FOR OUR NIGHT SWEEPERS AND OUR DAY SWEEPERS.

WE'VE GOT THREE OF OUR SWEEPER OPERATORS THAT RUN 24 HOURS A DAY ALL YEAR LONG.

UM, THEY GO FROM DRIVING A SNOW PLOW RIGHT BACK INTO THEIR SWEEPER AND JOB SECURITY, GO OUT THERE AND PICK UP ALL THOSE CINDERS THAT THEY THEY PUT DOWN.

IT TAKES ONE SWEEPER, I THINK, FOUR LOADS TO PICK UP WHAT ONE PLOW TRUCK CAN PUT DOWN IN ONE SINGLE, UM, UH, HOPPER. SO IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO PICK UP ALL THOSE ICE CINDERS.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE BIG ONE IS THE ROADWAY DAMAGES AND THE POTHOLES.

EVERY NOW AND THEN WE'LL SEE A FEW OF THOSE POP UP.

WE GO OUT THERE AND TRY AND GET AHEAD OF IT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO GET ASKED IS HOW COME YOU DON'T FILL THEM UP WHEN THEY'RE FULL OF WATER? THEY JUST MAKE A BIGGER MESS? WELL, WHEN THEY'RE FULL OF WATER AND WE PUT PATCH MATERIAL IN THERE, IT ACTUALLY JUST BLOWS IT BACK OUT.

SO WE WASTE A LOT OF MATERIAL.

THIS LAST YEAR WE STARTED USING SOME OF OUR ROAD MILLINGS, SO IT'S WHEN THEY GRIND UP THE OLD ASPHALT, WE STOCKPILE THAT AND USE IT FOR SHOULDER MATERIAL.

WE STARTED USING THAT FOR SOME OF OUR POTHOLING TO HELP DRY IT UP, ALMOST LIKE PUTTING KITTY LITTER ON IT, AND IT'S BEEN REALLY EFFECTIVE.

SO WE SAW SOME REALLY GOOD PROGRESS OUT OF THAT LAST YEAR.

BUT THESE POST-EVENT OPERATIONS CAN GO FOR WEEKS.

AND LIKE I SAID THIS LAST WINTER HERE, IT WAS ALMOST THREE MONTHS AFTERWARD AND WE WERE STILL OUT THERE DOING HAUL OUT AND DAMAGE, UH, REPAIRING DAMAGED INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS ONE HERE IS REALLY OUR MISSION.

OUR GOAL. RIGHT? OUR GOALS ARE TO PROVIDE THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND SAFE SNOW OPERATIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY, ENHANCE BEST PRACTICES THROUGH TRAINING, PROPER EQUIPMENT, AND STAFFING.

AND THEN OUR 3 TO 5 YEAR GOALS ARE TO TO MEET STAFFING NEEDS.

AND. I SAY THIS, BUT WE WERE TRYING TO MEET THE STAFFING NEEDS OF OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY ADOPTING NEW INFRASTRUCTURE IN, AND WE'VE GOT SOME BIG PIECES COMING IN IN THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO TRY AND GET TO A POINT FROM OUR STRATEGIC GOAL, WHERE WE'RE STAFFED AND ABLE TO SUPPORT WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT, WE'LL START WORKING ON THAT INCREASE IN STAFFING TO MEET NEW COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS.

THAT ONE RIGHT? THERE IS JUST KIND OF THAT OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE GOING INTO THE SEASON, OUR OPERATIONS, AND THEN OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR OWN TEAMS TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE GOOD GUIDANCE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT, UM, HOPEFULLY IT PUTS THEM IN THE MOST SUCCESSFUL POSITION.

BUT. WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

I'M HOPING YOU WOULD.

THANK YOU. SAM.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

AND CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PART WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT STAFFING AND YOU'RE DOWN 50, BUT YOU HIRED ONE PERSON? SORRY, MISS WYNN.

FOR US, THAT IS THAT IS NOT THAT'S NOT FUNNY.

AND I DON'T MEAN TO TO MAKE LIGHT OF IT.

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SO DON'T HEAR THAT. BUT I'M.

SO IS IT.

PEOPLE JUST AREN'T APPLYING FOR THOSE JOBS.

UH. IT'S COLD. I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO BE OUT THERE IN THE COLD OR OTHER PEOPLE LIKE ME.

THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK IN THE COLD WEATHER OR.

I MEAN, WHAT'S THE WHAT SEEMS TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF VACANCIES IN OUR TOP TIERS FROM RETIREMENTS. WE HAD A LOT OF RETIREMENTS THIS YEAR OF PEOPLE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT IN THEIR TIME AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS THAT THEY THEY'VE GIVEN US AND ALL THE YEARS OF SERVICE. WHAT WE SEE IN SOME OF OUR, UH, EARLY STAGES OF OPERATIONS.

SO OUR TECH ONES IS WE'VE OFFERED WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CANDIDATE OFFERS IN THIS LAST YEAR IN THE DOUBLE DIGITS.

MOST ALL OF THEM WERE DECLINED DUE TO PAY.

SO THAT WAS ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IS THAT COMPENSATION HAS BEEN HUGE.

UM, THE THING IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, JUST OVER A DOLLAR OVER MINIMUM WAGE IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF WITH A COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S LICENSE.

THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME RESPONSIBILITIES THAT COME WITH THAT.

THERE'S ALSO, UM, EXPECTATIONS THAT ARE SET WITH THAT.

AND THEN IT'S NOT JUST DRIVING A VEHICLE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE, WE'VE ALSO HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK OF THEM.

WHEN THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S MORE THAN DRIVING A TRUCK, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE YOU'RE OUT THERE WITH A SHOVEL FILLING POTHOLES.

IT'S THAT PHYSICAL LABOR THAT COMES WITH IT.

IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THOSE EXPECTATIONS, THE COMPENSATION HAS BEEN A PIECE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, AND FRANKLY, WE'VE HAD REALLY, REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MANAGER'S OFFICE AND WITH HUMAN RESOURCES.

WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT PATH FORWARD.

UM, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE SEEN ACROSS ALL TRADES.

I DON'T THINK IT'S SPECIFIC TO STREETS.

I THINK SOME OF OUR RETIREMENTS HIT US HARD THIS YEAR.

BUT WATER SERVICES I KNOW PROS SOLID WASTE TEAMS. THEY'RE ALL HAVING THESE SAME IMPACTS.

UM WHERE FINANCIALLY I MEAN YOU CAN GO GET SOME JOBS THAT JUST ARE EASIER ON THE BODY FOR MORE MONEY.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO, TO MAKE IT MORE ENTICING AND HOPEFULLY RECRUIT SOME GOOD AND QUALIFIED STAFF MEMBERS.

AND THEN SO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT YOU TEND TO HIRE.

ARE THEY COMING FROM INSIDE FLAGSTAFF, YOU KNOW, FLAGSTAFF, DHONI PARK? UM, YOU KNOW, PLACES LIKE THAT.

WHEN I SAY INSIDE FLAGSTAFF, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE CITY.

SO IS THAT WHERE WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE OR THAT, IS THAT WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM? YEAH, WE DO HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.

ALL OF OUR STAFF ARE CONSIDERED EMERGENCY STAFFING, SO THEY HAVE TO BE WITHIN A 30 MILE RADIUS OF THE CITY.

WE'VE STARTED TO PUSH THAT BOUNDARY JUST BECAUSE IT MAKES MORE SENSE.

AND IT'S OPENED UP OUR CANDIDATE POOL A LITTLE BIT.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE FAIRLY, UM, LOCAL CANDIDATES THAT PUT IN ONCE IN A WHILE.

WE'LL SEE SOME FROM OTHER AREAS ASPIRING TO COME HERE, BUT THEY DON'T TEND TO WORK OUT TOO OFTEN.

THANK YOU. YEAH. OF COURSE.

CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SAM.

I REALLY WOULD JUST ECHO SAM'S COMMENTS OF JUST NOW IN RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION.

UM, WE'RE SEEING VACANCY RATES ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION SIMILAR TO THIS, ALTHOUGH SOME DIVISIONS A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING THAN OTHERS.

THIS MAY BE ONE OF THOSE.

AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO A NUMBER OF THINGS.

I THINK MINIMUM WAGE CERTAINLY FACTORS IN AND FOR THE REASONS SAM STATED, THESE ARE NOT EASY JOBS.

THESE ARE OPERATOR JOBS THAT WILL BRING PEOPLE OUT ON IN VERY BAD CLIMATE CONDITIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING IN THE COLD, WORKING IN THE DARK.

AND IT'S A RATHER THANKLESS JOB AT TIMES.

SO A LOT OF CHALLENGES.

YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS ON THURSDAY AT THE RETREAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SAM.

YEAH. THANK YOU. WELL, I'M GOING TO LET, UH, DIRECTOR OVERTON, I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE POINT THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S COMMENTS AND TO SAM'S PRESENTATION IS WE ALSO HAD A RELIANCE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS ON OUR TEMPORARY OPERATORS THAT WOULD COME IN FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND ONLY WORK A SNOWSTORM.

SO THEY MIGHT BE A DRIVER FOR, YOU KNOW, A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

OR MAYBE THEY WORK AND THEY HAVE A CDL.

UM, THOSE POOLS USED TO HAVE DOZENS, IF NOT TENS OF DOZENS OF PEOPLE, AND WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD THAT.

SO WE HAVEN'T HAD, UM, A SLOWDOWN IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT HAS ALLOWED OPERATORS TO KIND OF HAVE AN OFF SEASON TO WHERE THEY WOULD COME IN AND ASSIST US. SO I THINK OUR HIRES AND OUR EXISTING TEAMS HAVE BEEN SOLID, AND THERE'S SOME GREAT EMPLOYEES IN THE GROUP.

I THINK FOR A LONG TIME WE WERE ABLE TO FILL A LOT OF THESE ROLES WITH THOSE TEMPORARY CONTRACTED OPERATORS THAT WOULD COME IN AND WORK FOR US, AND WE REALLY HAVE HAD A LOT LESS LUCK TO TRY TO GET THOSE FOLKS TO COME AND HELP US DURING SNOW EVENTS.

AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS WE ALSO HAVE TO THANK A LOT OF OUR OTHER DIVISIONS THAT ASSIST US WITH STAFFING.

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SO WE SEE A LOT OF FOLKS FROM WATER SERVICES OR FROM OTHER DIVISIONS THAT WILL COME AND ASSIST OR SUPPORT US.

SO I, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S ALL STREET STAFFING.

WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE ALL STREET STAFFING SO THEY COULD FOCUS ON EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

BUT YOU CAN'T FILL EVEN OUR ROUTES.

IF WE WERE FULLY STAFFED, AND WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A RELIANCE ON SOME OF THOSE TEMP WORKERS AS WELL.

AND WE HAVE NOT HAD GREAT APPLICANT POOLS IN THAT REGARD, AND JUST NOT A LOT OF FOLKS COMING OUT TO DO THIS WORK WITH US.

SO I WANTED TO ADD THAT BECAUSE IT'S ONE MORE IMPORTANT PIECE FOR SNOW OPS IN PARTICULAR.

I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REALLY APPRECIATE THE CREATIVE THOUGHT THAT YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING INTO THE PLAN FOR THIS YEAR.

I KNOW THAT LAST YEAR WAS A TOUGH ONE, TO SAY THE VERY LEAST.

BUT TO SEE AGAIN, I THINK TONIGHT HAS BEEN A NIGHT OF SEEING A LOT OF CREATIVE PLANS COME INTO PLACE FOR THE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING, PARTICULARLY WITH THE THE SHORT STAFFING THAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING AND THE POTENTIAL FOR A SUPER EL NINO, WHATEVER THAT WILL MEAN FOR THE FOR THIS WINTER.

YEAH. UM, I DID WANT TO OFFER A LITTLE SPACE AND TIME TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE CHALLENGES OF THE, THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT, UM, AND THE RESTRICTIONS THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE I KNOW FROM THE PLANS THAT YOU PRESENTED, YOU'RE REALLY WORKING TO, UM, TO. CIRCUMVENT A WORKAROUND.

HOWEVER, YOU WANT TO SAY THAT THE CHALLENGES THAT COME UP WITH PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREETS OUTSIDE OF THOSE HOURS, AND I JUST LIKE TO OFFER A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT IMPACTS THE SNOW REMOVAL OPERATIONS AND WHAT WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN DO TO BETTER SUPPORT THAT.

SURE I KNOW, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.

AND I KNOW YOU KNOW, CHIEF MUSSELMAN IS IN THE BACK.

UM, WHEN WE GET TO THE ENFORCEMENT PIECE.

BUT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT IT'S ALWAYS KIND OF THAT, THAT TOP TIER ISSUE.

WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE THOSE IMPACTS, WHETHER IT'S DAY SHIFT, NIGHT SHIFT, UH, THE PARKING ORDINANCE REALLY HELPS US BECAUSE WE CAN HELP NUDGE THEM AND SAY, HEY, YOU'RE WITHIN THAT WINDOW. WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET TO THAT POINT WHERE YOU GET A CITATION.

COULD YOU JUST MOVE FOR US IN THE DAYTIME? WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO LEVERAGE THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY.

UM, IT'S AVAILABLE TO PARK THERE.

UH, WHAT WE SAW LAST YEAR IN PARTICULAR IS WE SAW A LOT OF OPERATORS, UM, JUST FULL INTENT WAS TO DO THE RIGHT THING TO GET IN THERE AND PLOW THOSE ROADS.

AND WE SAW A LOT OF IMPACTS.

AND WHEN I SAY IMPACTS, I MEAN VEHICLE IMPACTS.

AND SO WE STOPPED AND WE SAID WE GOT TO STOP.

SO MOVING FORWARD, IF THE OPERATOR BELIEVES IN ANY INSTANCE THAT THEY CANNOT SAFELY GET THROUGH THERE OR THAT IT'S JUST TOO TIGHT, THEY'RE GOING TO SKIP THAT ROAD ENTIRELY.

SIMPLY BECAUSE WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO HAVE THE DAMAGE TO PRIVATE VEHICLES.

WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO HAVE THE DAMAGE TO OUR OWN PERSONAL VEHICLES.

SO WE'RE SKIPPING THOSE ROADS.

WHAT THAT NOW DOES IS ON THESE ROUTES WHERE THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN 30 AND 60 MILES PER ROUTE.

IT DOESN'T GET DONE UNTIL THE NEXT PERSON COMES BACK IN ON THAT ROUTE.

AND THEN IF THAT VEHICLE IS STILL THERE, IT GETS SKIPPED AGAIN.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC.

WE WORK WITH SARAH TO TRY AND GET THAT MESSAGE OUT THERE, BE VERY PROACTIVE AND HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HELP YOU OUT AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE YOU'RE STUCK IN THE ROAD, BUT IF YOU CAN GET THAT CAR OUT OF THE ROAD, WE'LL GET YOUR ROAD PLOWED.

AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP YOU TREMENDOUSLY.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY WORKING, UM, ON THAT PUBLIC EDUCATION PIECE.

AND AS WE GET CLOSER TO THESE STORMS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT RAMP UP.

IF WE START NOW, WE TEND TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF FORGETFULNESS.

UM, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON, UM, PEOPLE TEND TO JUST KIND OF MOVE PAST IT.

BUT AS WE GET REAL CLOSE TO THOSE STORMS AND WE START SEEING THOSE PICK UP, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT MESSAGE TO OUR COMMUNITY AS A REMINDER.

HELP US OUT. WE'LL HELP YOU OUT.

SO I HOPE. I HOPE THAT HELPS.

BUT ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE.

YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE WE DEFINITELY LEVERAGE EVERYTHING WE CAN WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT FRIENDS, AND I'LL LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHIEF MUSSELMAN FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO FOR THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF NOVEMBER, WE'VE BEEN HAMMERING WARNINGS OUT THROUGH ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, THE PROBLEMATIC NEIGHBORHOODS ARE THE ONES WITH THE TIGHT, NARROW STREETS AND LIMITED PARKING.

UM, SOUTH SIDE, RAILROAD SPRINGS, MOBILE HAVEN, SOME OF THOSE PLACES.

SO NOW WE'RE IN THE CITATION PHASE OF IT.

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WE'RE BEING AS COMPASSIONATE AS WE CAN.

UM, BUT WE STILL DON'T WANT TO IMPEDE THE SNOW PLOWING OPERATIONS.

ONCE THEY DO KICK OFF.

ONCE THEY DO KICK OFF, IF IT IS SNOWING, WE WILL BE ISSUING CITATIONS.

WE USUALLY RESERVE TOWING VEHICLES FOR THOSE WHERE WE ABSOLUTELY CANNOT GET A HOLD OF THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE TO MOVE THE VEHICLE, WE'LL TRY AND RUN THE PLATE, TRY AND CALL THE PERSON, KNOCK ON THE DOOR IN FRONT.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE END UP TOWING IT, IT BECOMES QUITE EXPENSIVE AND IT'S A STAFF DRAIN ON US TO IT TAKES A COUPLE HOURS TO GET 2 OR 3 VEHICLES TOWED. AND ON THOSE BUSY NIGHTS, USUALLY WE RUN OUT OF TOW TRUCKS BECAUSE THEY'RE BUSY WORKING THE INTERSTATES OR HAULING IN CARS THAT HAVE SLID OFF OR BROKE DOWN.

SO IT JUST BECOMES A PERFECT STORM, SO TO SPEAK, PUN INTENDED.

SO THANK YOU, CHIEF.

CAN I ASK A FOLLOW UP TO THAT? DO WE HAVE, UM, PARK PARKING AIDES OR SOMEONE FROM, UM, PARK FLAG WHO CAN HELP OUT? UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE CITATIONS AND WHATNOT? YES AND NO. SO PARK FLAG CONCENTRATES ON THE DAYTIME PARKING ISSUES.

WE USE OUR POLICE AIDES.

UM, WE FOR THE WARNING PERIOD.

WE REASSIGN THEM TO NIGHT SHIFTS, AND NOW THEY'RE BACK ON DAY SHIFTS SO THAT WHEN THOSE CITATIONS GO TO COURT, WE'RE NOT HAVING GRAVEYARD OFFICERS HAVING TO GET UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR SLEEP PATTERN DAY TO GO TO COURT.

UM, BUT ONCE, IF WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PLAN FOR A SNOW EVENT, WE'LL MOVE THEM BACK ON TO, UM, NIGHT SHIFT OR ALLOW THEM TO COME IN EARLY, WORK LATE, PICK UP SOME OVERTIME, BUY SOME CHRISTMAS GIFTS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

THANKS. I HOPE THAT KIND OF ANSWERS THE QUESTION AND HOW WE TRY AND MITIGATE THROUGH THOSE.

YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SUPER EL NINO.

GROWING UP IN THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY ALL MY LIFE, I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

UM, SO I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT OUR 50% VACANCY AND.

I FELT LIKE MR. OVERTON WAS KIND OF SUGGESTING THAT COUNCIL GET THEIR CDL LICENSE TO PICK UP THE GAP.

I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I DON'T LIKE THE COLD.

UM, AND MAN, YOU KNOW, I SAW ADVERTISEMENTS, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR FOR, UM, RESTAURANTS ADVERTISING TO HIRE DISHWASHERS, DISHWASHERS FOR $20 AN HOUR.

SO. WASH DISHES OR BE OUT IN 18 DEGREE TEMPERATURE.

YEAH. THAT'S GOT THAT'S HARD.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST APPRECIATE YOUR THE WHOLE TEAM AND THE STAFF.

I REFER TO THE STREETS, UH, TEAM MANY TIMES IN PUBLIC, FILLING UP THE POTHOLES, THE STREET NINJAS.

BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAIN, UM, BECAUSE THE SNOW WAS JUST SO MUCH.

AND SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER FUN YEAR.

UM, I THOUGHT THEY WERE REMARKABLE.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DID.

AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THEY WERE OUT THERE FILLING THOSE.

I MEAN, I WAS JUST AMAZED.

SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE IN STREETS, ESPECIALLY JUST A BIG THANK YOU FOR LAST YEAR AGAIN.

AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE FACING.

THIS YEAR.

UM, IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING.

I WONDER IF, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITH OUR STAFFING SHORTAGES RIGHT NOW, UM, WHAT PLANS TO MAYBE GET, UM, AWARENESS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY SO THEY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE INSTEAD OF THINKING, HOW COME THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE? THEY USED TO BE OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, THREE TIMES IN ONE DAY.

AND SO JUST KIND OF LETTING THEM KNOW THAT, THAT WE'RE KIND OF STRUGGLING THROUGH SOME STAFFING ISSUES OR SOMETHING.

IS THERE ANY PLAN FOR THAT? YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD POINT.

YOU BRING UP STREETS, ACTUALLY HOSTED THEIR FIRST, UH, STAKEHOLDERS COORDINATION MEETING LAST WEEK.

AND OUR GOAL WAS TO MEET WITH MOUNTAIN LION WITH USD, WITH THE DBA, WE INVITED EVERYBODY WE COULD THINK OF FIRE PD, AND WE WANTED TO ONE RUN THROUGH THIS, THIS PRESENTATION WITH THEM, HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SEE, WHAT THOSE EXPECTATIONS WILL BE THIS YEAR.

AND ONE OF THE PIECES THAT CAME OUT FROM ANNE AND MOUNTAIN LION WAS, WHY DON'T WE TAKE THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE AND PUT IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE EXPECTATIONS WERE? AND I THOUGHT IT WAS PHENOMENAL.

SO THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THOSE PIECES WE'RE WORKING WITH SARAH AND HER TEAM ON, IS TO LET'S TAKE SOME OF THOSE PIECES OUT OF OUR SNOW OPERATIONS MANUAL, THOSE EXPECTATIONS THAT ARE SET FOR THESE CREWS.

AND LET'S GET THAT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

SHE DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB AT SPRUCING THEM UP AND DOING THOSE REALLY COOL INFO, UM, PIECES.

SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING.

WE'RE WORKING WITH SARAH AND HER TEAM ON TO GET OUT THERE, BUT YOU'RE SPOT ON.

AND YEAH, THAT'S A PHENOMENAL IDEA.

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THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UH, LAST YEAR I DID A COUPLE OF RIDE ALONGS, AND THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND HOW HARD YOU ALL WORK AND THE CHALLENGES YOU FACE.

SO I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

WITH THE STAFFING SHORTAGE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THE BIKE LANES? THAT WASN'T IN THE PRESENTATION? IT ISN'T. UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING TO YOU IN JANUARY WITH THOSE AND HAVE THAT FINAL DISCUSSION.

WE WE STARTED THAT TRANSITION PHASE.

UM, AND HONESTLY, WE HAVE HEARD HARDLY ANYTHING FROM THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE HEARD LITTLE TO NO NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH OF ANYTHING, WHICH WAS REALLY GOOD IN OUR EYES.

UM, WE FIND WHEN WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING, WE'RE USUALLY DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.

UH, IT'S WHEN WE START HEARING FROM PEOPLE, THEN THAT'S WHEN THE EXPECTATION MAY HAVE CHANGED.

SO THE TRANSITIONS THAT WE'VE MADE SO FAR HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

WHAT WE DO KNOW IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE WITHIN THOSE CURBED AREAS THAT STILL EXIST.

SO AS WE COME IN IN JANUARY AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS MONTH HERE, EVEN LOOKING AT THAT LONG TERME FORECAST THROUGH THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

WE LOOK LIKE WE'RE IN AN OKAY AREA SO WE CAN GET BACK HERE AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU.

WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, UH, ONE, THE EXPECTATION IS FOR SNOW OPERATIONS THIS YEAR.

AND TWO, HOW HAS IT BEEN SO FAR WITH THAT TRANSITION PHASE? UM, YOU'LL PROBABLY ALSO NOTICE NOT ONLY DO WE TRANSITION SOME OF THAT EXISTING BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO EXTEND IT OUT AND IT'S MUCH EASIER TO MAINTAIN.

WE THINK IT'S MORE VISIBLE.

IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING WELL.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHERE THE TRANSITION HAS GONE.

NOT ONLY HAS IT GONE, BUT WE'VE EXTENDED IT AND IT'S JUST A MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN.

BUT WE'LL OBVIOUSLY BRING THAT BACK AND LET YOU ALL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, BUT JUST KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE TO MAINTAIN THOSE. IN FACT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT SERVICE OF MOVING EVERYTHING BACK TO THE EDGES OF THE ROAD.

WE JUST WON'T BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE CLEAN UP SERVICE AND THE SNOW, THE SNOW HAULING OPERATIONS ALONG BUTLER.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PIECE THAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO STRUGGLE WITH.

UM, IN ADDITION TO GETTING IN THERE WITH THE SMALLER EQUIPMENT, LAST YEAR, THE TWO PEOPLE WE HAD ASSIGNED TO SUPPORT THAT ARE NO LONGER WITH US.

UM, SO WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT.

SO TO ADD ON TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS SAID, I DO THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO GET THAT WORD OUT TO THE BIKING COMMUNITY NOW, RATHER THAN AFTER.

WE CAN KIND OF PREP THEM FOR WHAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.

WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

IT'S A GREAT POINT. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

UM. TWO THINGS.

YOU MENTIONED EL NINO.

ARE THERE PREDICTIONS THAT THIS SNOW SEASON WILL BE MORE SIGNIFICANT, LESS SIGNIFICANT, OR WHATEVER COMPARED TO LAST YEAR? YOU KNOW, THE WEATHER SERVICE IS TELLING US THAT THERE'S AN ABOVE OR BELOW AVERAGE CHANCE THAT WE COULD SEE EQUAL OR LESSER OR MORE SNOW THAN WE SAW LAST YEAR.

SO THEY WERE PRETTY DIRECT ABOUT IT.

IN THEIR RESPONSE. WE WERE PRETTY EXCITED.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE REALLY HOPING THAT WE SEE KIND OF A BALANCED SNOW OPERATION OR SNOW IMPACT THIS YEAR WHERE WE DON'T SEE JUST CONTINUAL SIGNIFICANT STORMS. BUT WHAT THEY'VE SAID IS WE WILL MOST LIKELY SEE MORE PRECIPITATION THAN WE NORMALLY SEE, AND IT SHOULD BE COLDER THAN WE NORMALLY SEE.

SO I ASKED, SO YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S GOING TO SNOW? AND THEY SAID, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE SAID.

WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE PRECIPITATION AND IT SHOULD BE COLDER.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THAT MEANS YET.

UH, AS WE MOVE CLOSER INTO OUR, OUR, OUR PEAK MONTHS OF WINTER, WE'LL SEE WHAT THAT BRINGS.

WE'RE RAMPING UP FOR A BIG WINTER.

IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, GREAT.

THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET AHEAD OF SOME OF THE THE INTERNAL PIECES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING SO CLEAR ON THAT.

YEAH, YEAH, I GUESS WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO, IT'S PRETTY HARD TO PREDICT WHAT MOTHER NATURE MIGHT DO.

MY SECOND POINT.

I'M THE COUNCIL LIAISON TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, AND I ATTEND THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY BOARDS, AND THE SUBJECT THAT COMES UP ALL THE TIME IS, WELL, TWO THINGS.

THE ONE THAT COMES UP MOST OFTEN IS WE GOT TO GET THOSE CINDERS OFF OF THE BIKE LANES OR OFF THE AREAS WHERE BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS GO.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, GETTING SNOW OFF OF, YOU KNOW, FOOT TRAILS, WHATEVER.

I UNDERSTAND THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT TASK, AND I JUST BUT MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? THANK YOU. YEAH.

ON THE ON THE ICE ENDERS.

THE BEST WAY TO GET THEM OUT OF THERE IS WITH OUR BIG ROADS.

WE STREET SWEEPERS, WHEN WE HAVE THOSE SEPARATED BIKE LANES THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO SEND THE SMALLER STUFF OUT, TRY AND KICK IT OUT OF THERE.

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SO WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THOSE, THOSE.

UM, OBSTACLES IN THE WAY WE CAN USE THOSE BIG STREET SWEEPERS AND GET IN THERE.

THE MAINS AND ARTERIALS GET HIT FIRST, JUST BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES WE USUALLY SEE THE BIGGEST IMPACTS ON.

THE SOONER WE CAN GET THE THE CINDERS PICKED UP, THE BETTER.

EVERYTHING KIND OF GOES AFTER THAT.

WE SEE LESS DUST, WE SEE BETTER TRACTION AFTER THE STORM.

SO JUST LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'LL FOCUS ON MAINS, ARTERIALS, HILLS, THE DOWNTOWN CORE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT JUST TAKES A REALLY LONG TIME FOR THEM TO GET IN THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH JUST THREE TRUCKS.

AND THEY DO RUN 24 HOURS A DAY ONCE THEY GET BACK INTO THAT OPERATION.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S 4 TO 5 SWEEPER HOPPERS TO GET WHAT 110 WHEELER PUTS DOWN ONE TIME.

SO IT'S JUST A THE RATIOS ARE A LITTLE OFF.

AND JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP IF YOU DO HAVE SOME MORE PRESENTATIONS ON UM.

YOU KNOW, THINGS AFFECTING.

BUTLER AND BEAVER, BUT MORE GENERALLY EVERYWHERE THAT AFFECT PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE.

YOU MIGHT INVITE THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN COMMITTEES, BECAUSE THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN COMING DOWN AND LISTENING TO A PRESENTATION.

THAT WOULDN'T BE ANY MORE WORK, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION ANYWAY, FOR SURE.

I THINK JEFF'S ALREADY WORKING ON MEETING WITH SOME OF THOSE THOSE COMMITTEES, SO I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE THEM HERE.

I THINK THE MORE THE MERRIER.

I'M SURE THAT'S A GREAT POINT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

AND BEFORE I ASK, I WILL JUST RESTATE WHAT EVERYONE HAS RESTATED AND THAT IS THAT I SO APPRECIATE, UM, ALL OF YOUR EMPLOYEES AND ALL OF THE HARD WORK.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF EMAILS, YOU GET A LOT OF EMAILS.

I KNOW YOU FEEL THE PRESSURE AND, UM, WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE.

I JUST WANT THAT TO, TO COME ACROSS.

UM, SO LAST YEAR WE RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS, OF COURSE, ABOUT THE SNOW BERMS. RIGHT. UM, AND ALSO ABOUT PLOWS PUSHING SNOW BACK ONTO SIDEWALKS.

AND I, I UNDERSTAND I'VE DONE THE RIDE ALONGS, YOU KNOW, AND I SEE WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH OUT THERE, BUT IS THERE, UM, EXTRA EMPHASIS OR ANYTHING WITH THE DRIVERS TO TRY AND AVOID PUSHING THE SNOW BACK ONTO THE SIDEWALK THERE? THERE ACTUALLY IS.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE PIECES. WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, UM, CONSTANTLY TRYING TO REMIND THEM, UM, TO LEAVE THAT SPACE WHEN WE CAN, UH, WE ALSO GET INTO THOSE ISSUES.

CORNERS ARE USUALLY THE BIG ONES.

UM, ONCE WE GET ON THE STRAIGHT AWAY, THEY'RE USUALLY OKAY.

CORNERS IS WHERE, UH, THE BEST WAY I DESCRIBE SNOW OPERATIONS IS TRYING TO OPERATE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, UM, OVERWEIGHT, OVERSIZE IN A CONTROLLED SKID FOR 12 HOURS A DAY. SO TRYING TO MAKE THOSE CORNERS, UM, TRYING NOT TO HIT THE CURB, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CURB IS.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY A LONG TIME, AND WE HAVE MANY, UH, WHO ARE BORN AND LIVED HERE IN FLAGSTAFF THEIR ENTIRE LIFE.

BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT THREE FEET OF SNOW, UH, COVERING UP EVERYTHING OUT THERE, IT'S TOUGH TO SEE WHERE YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO BE ALIGNED.

SO THEY DO THEIR BEST TO TRY AND AVOID THOSE IMPACTS WHEN THEY CAN.

BUT THEY DO HAPPEN.

WE KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF IT.

ONE OF THE OTHER PIECES WE'VE SEEN WITH THE SNOW BERMS, AND WE STARTED LOOKING AT WHERE THE TIMING OF OUR CALLS WERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING MORE OF THOSE CALLS TWO DAYS AFTER THE STORM, THREE DAYS AFTER THE STORM, WHEN WE'RE GETTING INTO THE COMMUNITIES.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET IN THERE SOONER.

AS I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE CLEARED OUT YOUR DRIVEWAY.

IT'S BEEN GOOD FOR TWO DAYS.

AND THEN WE FINALLY GOT TO YOUR ROAD AND NOW THE DRIVEWAY ISN'T GOOD ANYMORE.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO TRY AND GET IN THERE FASTER TO REALLY, UM, NOT ONLY MEET THESE EXPECTATIONS HERE, BUT MAYBE EVEN EXCEED THEM IN SOME CASES AND REDUCE THAT LENGTH OF TIME BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET TO THAT ROAD.

AND I THINK THAT CHANGES ONE, THE BURM ITSELF.

YOU'RE JUST DEALING KIND OF WITH THAT FRESH SNOW, AND YOU'RE NOT DEALING WITH THAT ICE PACK THAT GETS PUT ONTO THE ROADWAY.

SO WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO GET THERE AS WE BUILD STAFF.

BUT WE THINK THAT THIS NEW STRATEGIC PLAN MOVING FORWARD HELPS GET AHEAD OF SOME OF THAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND I'M SURE WE'LL GET INTO THIS MORE AT OUR BUDGET RETREAT, BUT THE CONTRACTORS HAD WE ALREADY BUDGETED FOR THAT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AND WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO? WHAT'S THE BUDGET GOING TO LOOK LIKE THEN?

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WHAT WE DO HAVE IS SOME SIGNIFICANT SALARY SAVINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK THROUGH OUR BUDGET TEAM ON TO REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS.

WE DO HAVE A SMALL ALLOTMENT OF MONEY WE CAN PUT ASIDE FOR THIS, BUT IF WE SEE BACK TO BACK STORMS LIKE WE SAW LAST YEAR, WE WILL HIT A POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME REAL HARD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FUNDING FOR CONTRACTED SERVICES.

AND THAT'S ONE WE KNOW GOING INTO THIS, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO SET IT UP AND HOPEFULLY, UM, AT LEAST TEST THE WATERS WITH IT.

AND WE HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF PEOPLE LAST YEAR THAT THEY CALLED TO REPORT A PROBLEM.

UM, SO I'M WANTING TO BE CLEAR ON DO THEY CALL THE PUBLIC WORKS NUMBER AND IS THERE AN ONLINE WAY TO GET IN CONTACT AS WELL, OR IS IT JUST A PHONE CALL? AND WHAT CAN RESIDENTS EXPECT IN TERMS OF A RETURN PHONE CALL OR EMAIL? YEAH. SO THE BEST WAY TO GET A HOLD OF US IS YEAH, ONE CALL THAT MAIN LINE.

IF YOU GO TO THE PUBLIC WORKS MAIN WEBSITE.

WE'VE UPDATED THAT WEBSITE A FEW TIMES THIS YEAR TO ENSURE EVERYTHING'S WORKING WELL.

YOU CAN CALL THE MAIN LINE OR YOU CAN GO INTO THE STREET SECTION AS WELL.

UM, THE PHONE NUMBERS ARE LISTED THERE FOR KEY CONTACTS AS WELL AS THEIR EMAILS.

THAT'S A REALLY THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

WE WILL SUBMIT WORK ORDERS OR TICKETS ON OUR SIDE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC PORTAL FOR THOSE AT THIS POINT.

SO THE BEST WAY IS TO TO CALL US.

WHAT WE WERE SEEING LAST YEAR IS PUBLIC WORKS AS A WHOLE DURING THESE STORMS. AND THIS WILL INCLUDE SOLID WASTE, SOLID WASTE.

WE'RE SEEING 8 TO 900 CALLS A WEEK.

SO TO CATCH UP ON THOSE, IT IS TAKING SOME TIME.

THEY'RE TRYING TO CATCH THEM LIVE REAL TIME AS FAST AS THEY CAN.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING THEM TO WORK SOME DIFFERENT HOURS TO HELP SUPPORT THAT.

BUT REALISTICALLY, IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO GET BACK TO THEM.

AND IN MANY CASES WE KNOW, HEY, WE GOT IN THERE.

UM, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A BETTER WAY TO CLOSE THE LOOP, BUT IT IS JUST A TON OF LOOP CLOSING.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON SOME MORE EFFECTIVE WAYS TO TO HAVE THOSE COMMUNICATIONS.

AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH OUR, UH, OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE, WHO ALSO DOES OUR TICKETS, AND SEEING IF THERE'S CAPACITY OR ABILITY TO SEND OUT THOSE AUTOMATED NOTIFICATIONS.

IF WE HAD CONTACT INFORMATION FOR SOMEBODY, WHICH WOULD HELP US A TON EARLY STAGES OF THAT.

BUT THAT'S ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH.

EXCELLENT. I HAD NO IDEA THAT YOU WERE FIELDING THAT MANY CALLS.

SO ALONG WITH THIS SLIDE, I SAVED EVERY EMAIL THAT YOU SENT LAST YEAR EXPLAINING WHY THINGS WORK THE WAY THEY DID IN MY SPECIAL LITTLE SAM FILE IN MY EMAIL, SO THAT I CAN MAYBE NOT ASK YOU SO MANY QUESTIONS NEXT YEAR.

UM, BUT THAT KIND OF INFORMATION IS REALLY HELPFUL WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC AND TRYING TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ALL ARE GOING THROUGH.

SO WHEN I ASK A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS, I AM ULTIMATELY TRYING TO EASE THE PRESSURE ON YOU AND I HONESTLY, I APPRECIATE THOSE QUESTIONS. WE'VE HAD THOSE TALKS INTERNALLY.

UM, I KNOW SOMETIMES IT TAKES ME A LITTLE BIT TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THOSE FEW HOURS OR A DAY AS WE'RE TRYING TO GET CAUGHT UP, BUT HONESTLY, I, I APPRECIATE THOSE MORE THAN YOU CAN REALIZE. AND I KNOW THAT YOUR ADVOCACY TO HELP EXPLAIN OUR OPERATION IS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

ONE IS A SECTION, BUT TWO IS A CITY.

SO ANYTIME ANYBODY HAS THOSE QUESTIONS, IF YOU REACH OUT TO ME, I'LL HELP ANSWER THOSE AND I'LL GIVE YOU KIND OF AN OPERATIONAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE MAY DO SOMETHING THE WAY WE DO. AND SOMETIMES IT'S ONE OF THOSE, I'M REVIEWING IT GOING, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT? AND SO THEY'RE REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS FOR ME TO IN THAT EVALUATION PROCESS.

UM, YEAH. I GOT QUIET TOWARDS THE END.

I WAS HOPING I DIDN'T SCARE YOU OFF, BUT I THINK THAT YOU WERE SAVING EVERYTHING AND PUSHING THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE.

SO I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, SO I AM GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU SAM.

THANK YOU ALL. I APPRECIATE IT.

MAYOR. WE'VE GOT ONE PUBLIC COMMENT.

KEITH BECKER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE, YOU CAN GIVE YOUR COMMENTS NOW.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES WE CAN.

OKAY. UH, MAYOR DAGGETT.

ESTEEMED COUNCIL MEMBERS, I COME BEFORE YOU TO STAND BEHIND YOU TO TELL YOU SOMETHING I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

OKAY, THAT'S JUST A LITTLE COMEDY TO LIGHTEN THINGS UP A BIT.

ACTUALLY, I COME BEFORE YOU AS A CITIZEN OF FLAGSTAFF SINCE JANUARY 5TH, 1978.

I WISH TO TALK TO YOU THIS EVENING ABOUT SNOW REMOVAL.

I REALIZE THIS AGENDA ITEM IS ABOUT STREETS, BUT SINCE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS ARE SO CLOSELY RELATED, I WANT TO BRIEFLY MENTION THAT 75 TO 90% OF SIDEWALKS ARE USELESS, OFTEN FOR WEEKS AFTER WINTER STORMS.

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I FEEL WE NEED A BETTER SIDEWALK, SNOW REMOVAL ENFORCEMENT AND SMARTER STREET PLOWING.

I SAY WE.

FOR ME AS A CITIZEN.

AND I ALSO SAY WE FOR CITY STAFF AS WE ARE ALL NEED OR WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.

SO I'M HERE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL.

UM, NOW FOR CITY STREETS.

UM, I WANT TO FIRST SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES THAT ASSIST IN CLEARING OUR STREETS.

YOU ARE TRULY THE UNSUNG HEROES.

UM, EVERYBODY GETS ANGRY.

THEY NEVER SAY THANK YOU.

SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

UH, THAT SAID, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER WITH SOME BETTER PLANNING AND MAYBE SOME TRAINING.

UM, AND EDUCATION.

UH, THE VERBAL PRESENTATION TONIGHT WAS REALLY GOOD.

I APPRECIATED IT.

IT OPENED MY EYES A LITTLE MORE THAN JUST WHAT I SAW.

UM, FROM THE, UH.

POWERPOINT. UM, ANYWAY, CITY PLOWS ARE PUSHING HUGE BERMS ON STREET CORNERS.

I PERSONALLY WATCHED THEM DO IT ON PURPOSE.

UM, AS IT IS, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CITIZENS SHOVELING SIDEWALKS AND MORE SO RARELY THEY DO CORNERS.

UM, THAT'S WITH GOOD REASON, BECAUSE THE SNOW PLOWS HAVE BEEN PILING SNOW SO HIGH ON, UH, BERMS ON CORNERS MORE THAN THEY DO ALONG SIDEWALKS.

THIS POINTS TO TRAINING OF SNOW PLOW DRIVERS.

UM, SNOW PLOWS OR PLOWS WHEN WORKING, ONLY PRIORITY ROUTES PUSH BERMS ACROSS SECONDARY ROUTES, WHICH MAKES SECONDARY ROUTES RELATIVELY IMPASSABLE FOR MODERN VEHICLES, WHICH ARE LOWER IN CLEARANCE AND HAVE PLASTIC AIR DAMS UNDERNEATH FOR FUEL MILEAGE.

THE PLASTIC TIRES OFF, UH, THE ICE BERMS, UH, ACROSS THE SECONDARY.

GOING OVER THE ICEBERGS ON THE SECONDARY STREETS.

UM, THAT PLASTIC IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO REPLACE.

WHEN IT COMES OFF ON A FREEWAY, IT HITS VEHICLES BEHIND.

EVEN IF WE DON'T GET TO THE SECONDARY STREETS QUICKLY, WE SHOULD PLOW THE NO BERMS ACROSS, UH, SECONDARY STREETS, AND I'M ABOUT TO LOSE MY TIME.

CAN I HAVE ANOTHER, UH, 2 OR 3 MINUTES? HEY, KEITH.

UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU'RE ONE OF OUR STRONGEST ADVOCATES FOR CLEARING SIDEWALKS.

COULD YOU PUT THE REST OF YOUR COMMENTS INTO AN EMAIL TO COUNCIL? YEAH, I COULD PUT THE WHOLE THING IN THERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO MAYOR. OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY, NOW WE'RE MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 11.

WATER. WASTEWATER.

RECLAIMED WATER RATE STUDY PRESENTATION ONE OF TWO ON CAPACITY, FEES AND MISCELLANEOUS FEES.

[11. Water, Wastewater, Reclaimed Water Rate Study Presentation 1 of 2 on Capacity Fees and Misc. Fees Presentation from Stantec The desired outcome is to prepare City Council for upcoming decision points on customer rates and fees, Stantec will be presenting the approach to calculating capacity fees, calculations of miscellaneous fees, and how operational costs are allocated to utility services. This is an opportunity for City Council to ask questions about how rates and fees are determined and presented for Council decisions. This is also an opportunity for City Council to request what other information would help them with upcoming decisions.]

THAT'S A MOUTHFUL.

WELCOME, AARON.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL AARON YOUNG, WATER RESOURCES MANAGER AND PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE RATE STUDY.

A QUICK UPDATE BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER TO STANTEC.

WE DID HOLD A PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING LAST THURSDAY NIGHT AT 5:30 P.M..

UH, PEOPLE COULD CALL IN OR JOIN TO VIEW THE PRESENTATION.

UM, IT WAS INFORMATIONAL.

IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

IT IS AVAILABLE ON CLEAN WATER FLAGSTAFF.COM.

SO JUST PROVIDING MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, UH, PRIOR TO COMING FORWARD WITH ACTUAL NUMBERS FOR YOU.

UH, TONIGHT WE HAVE AN INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION PREPARING YOU FOR, UH, DIRECTION ON CAPACITY FEES.

SO HOW ARE THEY CALCULATED AND HOW ARE OTHER FEES CALCULATED? UM, THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO PROVIDE THIS ALL TO YOU IN ONE BIG NIGHT.

SO THIS IS PART ONE OF TWO, AS IT SAYS IN THE TITLE.

SO, UM, CAROL, ARE YOU READY TO ROLL? I AM, ERIN. THANK YOU.

OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR STICKING AROUND THIS LONG TO LISTEN TO ME TALK ABOUT THIS RATE STUDY WITH YOU AGAIN TONIGHT.

WE CAN'T GO ANYWHERE.

SO WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE THIS PRESENTATION, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE.

SO. I'M SORRY TO HEAR THAT, BUT I THINK YOU WILL.

I THINK YOU WILL ENJOY THIS PRESENTATION.

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I'M GOING TO JUST BASICALLY REMIND YOU WHAT OUR SCOPE IS.

I'LL TALK ABOUT THE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS TO DATE, AND I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE IF YOU WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME RESULTS THAT WILL HAPPEN IN JANUARY, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE DATA.

HOWEVER, I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHERE WE STAND WITH CAPACITY FEES, WITH MISCELLANEOUS FEES, AND WITH THE COST OF SERVICE ANALYSIS.

I'LL PROVIDE YOU SOME DATA ON THE CUSTOMERS, YOUR USAGE AND ACCOUNTS.

SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AT THE END OF EACH OF THESE SECTIONS.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

OR IF YOU WANTED TO WAIT TILL I GET TO THE END, THAT'S FINE TOO.

WHATEVER YOU DECIDE.

TO START.

YOU'VE SEEN THIS GRAPHIC BEFORE.

THESE ARE THE PRIMARY STEPS AND THE TASKS IN THE RATE STUDY.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING SINCE MAY, AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE HERE ON TASK THREE.

THERE'S A LOT OF TECHNICAL ANALYSIS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.

AND YOUR STAFF, LED BY AARON, HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL.

SO THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ALONGSIDE US.

THE FIRST TASK THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT WOULD BE THE CAPACITY, FEES AND MISCELLANEOUS FEE CALCULATIONS.

THE IMPORTANT PART OF THIS GRAPHIC IS THE APPROACH.

I'LL BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE METHODOLOGIES THAT WE CAN USE WHEN WE'RE CALCULATING CAPACITY, FEES AND THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE APPROACHES WHERE WE ARE TO DATE ON CALCULATING THE CAPACITY FEES.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MISCELLANEOUS FEES.

SO THESE ARE ADDITIONAL FEES FOR SERVICE.

AND THEN FINALLY WE'RE PULLING IT ALL TOGETHER TO DETERMINE THAT APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF FEES.

THESE FEES ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY HELP MINIMIZE THE RATES AND CHARGES THAT YOU HAVE TO CHARGE TO YOUR RATEPAYERS FOR THEIR MONTHLY USER FEES.

SO WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO RECOVER THE COSTS OF SERVICE FROM THE APPROPRIATE USERS.

FIRST OFF ON THE LEGAL GUIDANCE FOR CAPACITY FEES.

CAPACITY FEES ARE ESTABLISHED IN YOUR IN YOUR STATUTES AND YOUR YOUR ARIZONA REVISED STATUTES, SECTION 9-4 63 .05. AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS? THE REASON THAT WE MENTION THIS IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE CALLING THEM CAPACITY FEES.

CAPACITY FEES ARE THE PROPER TERMS TO REFER TO THESE ONE TIME CHARGES FOR SERVICES THAT THE CITY PROVIDES BEYOND THE CITY LIMITS.

SO THESE ARE THE CAPACITY FEES.

THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE TERMINOLOGY.

I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY.

SO THERE'S PROBABLY SOMEONE THAT SAYS THERE'S THERE'S MORE DISTINCTIONS THERE.

BUT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO REFER TO THESE FEES AS CAPACITY FEES WITHIN THE CITY.

THE CAPACITY FOR APPROACH IS VERY SIMPLE.

THE MATH IS VERY SIMPLE.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY A ONE TIME CHARGE TO NEW CONNECTIONS OR NEW DEVELOPMENT, AND IT FINANCES OR COVERS THE COSTS OF THE GROWTH PORTION OF YOUR CAPITAL, IMPROVEMENTS OF YOUR INCREASES IN CAPACITY.

THAT'S VERY SIMPLE.

THIS FORMULA THAT I'M SHOWING YOU HAS THAT TOTAL SYSTEM VALUE DIVIDED BY THE SYSTEM CAPACITY TO ARRIVE AT A CAPACITY FEE OR A COST PER UNIT OF SERVICE.

RIGHT HERE IN THIS GRAPHIC I'M SHOWING SINGLE FAMILY EQUIVALENT, BUT WE ALSO CAN CALL THOSE EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNITS OR GALLONS PER DAY OR MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. THE ACTUAL UNIT IS NOT THE IMPORTANT THING.

THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THE FORMULA AND THE CALCULATION IS VERY SIMPLE.

THE ISSUE IS THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE APPROACHES THAT ARE ACCEPTABLE IN THE INDUSTRY.

THE AMERICAN WATER WORKS ASSOCIATION AND WATER ENVIRONMENT FEDERATION GIVES US THREE METHODS, AND WE CALL THEM THE BUY IN METHOD, THE INCREMENTAL METHOD, AND THE COMBINED METHOD.

THE BUY IN METHOD IS ACTUALLY A BACKWARD LOOKING APPROACH, WHERE WE LOOK AT YOUR HISTORICAL INVESTMENTS IN YOUR WATER, WASTEWATER, AND RECLAIMED SYSTEMS. THIS IS A GOOD APPROACH IF YOU HAVE AVAILABLE CAPACITY IN YOUR EXISTING SYSTEM.

AND BY CAPACITY I MEAN THAT THAT TREATMENT AND WATER RESOURCES AND ALSO YOUR TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION ON THE WATER SIDE AND THEN WASTEWATER TREATMENT, WASTEWATER, UM, COLLECTION AND INTERCEPTORS ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE.

TYPICALLY WHEN YOU USE THIS APPROACH, YOU YOU HAVE LITTLE NEED FOR CAPACITY FROM NEW PROJECTS OR NEW CIP.

THE SECOND METHOD IS THE INCREMENTAL METHOD.

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HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS MORE SPECIFICALLY THE GROWTH RELATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

SO WE'RE LIMITED TO JUST THAT PORTION OF YOUR PROJECTS THAT IS FOR NEW CUSTOMERS OR EXPANSIONS OF YOUR SYSTEMS. TYPICALLY YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH CAPACITY AVAILABLE IN YOUR EXISTING SYSTEM WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS FORWARD LOOKING APPROACH.

MORE COMMONLY IN THE INDUSTRY, A UTILITY WILL HAVE BOTH CAPACITY IN ITS EXISTING SYSTEM AND IN THE FUTURE, OR AND IN THE PLANNED FOR THE FUTURE.

SO A COMBINED METHOD IS THE.

IT'S A PRETTY TYPICAL APPROACH FOR A LOT OF THE UTILITIES THAT WE WORK WITH.

SO YOU HAVE AVAILABLE CAPACITY ON BOTH SIDES.

AND IT ACTUALLY IS A WEIGHTED CAPACITY COST FOR YOUR EXISTING SYSTEM AND YOUR NEW SYSTEM, YOUR CURRENT APPROACH.

SO YOU HAD THAT RATE STUDY COMPLETED BACK IN 2016.

AND THE CAPACITY FEES THAT WERE DEVELOPED BACK IN 2016 THAT ARE STILL RELEVANT TODAY WERE DERIVED USING THE INCREMENTAL METHOD IN YOUR REPORT. IF YOU HAVE THAT ON YOUR SHELF, IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED THE PLAN METHOD.

BUT THAT'S NOT A FIRM THAT IS TYPICALLY USED IN THE INDUSTRY.

SO WE'RE USING THE INCREMENTAL METHOD.

IT MEANS THE SAME THING.

THE EXCEPTION HERE IS THAT FOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT THE APPROACH USES THE COMBINED METHOD.

SO IT USES A HYBRID OF YOUR EXISTING TREATMENT CAPACITY AND THE FUTURE CAPACITY.

WHEN WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH LOOKING AT THESE FEES, IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOUR CURRENT FEES ARE CALCULATED.

AND SPEAKING OF YOUR CURRENT FEES, THIS IS THE SCHEDULE THAT YOU CAN FIND ONLINE FOR YOUR CURRENT CAPACITY FEES.

I'M JUST GOING TO VERY BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT SOME KEY POINTS TO THIS SCHEDULE.

THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE, BUT WE CAN BOIL IT DOWN TO THE FACT THAT THE CAPACITY FEE IS ON A EQUIVALENT METER BASIS.

SO WATER METERS ARE USED TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH A NEW CUSTOMER WILL PAY FOR THEIR CAPACITY FEE.

A THREE QUARTER INCH WATER METER IS A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL METER SIZE.

THAT'S WHAT WE CALL OUR EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT.

SO YOUR CURRENT CAPACITY FEE IN THIS COLUMN UNDER WATER CAPACITY FEES IS $5,728 FOR A THREE QUARTER INCH METER.

THE SEWER CAPACITY FEE IS $3,723 FOR A THREE QUARTER INCH METER.

IF YOU LOOK FURTHER ON YOUR SCHEDULE, YOU'LL SEE THAT IF YOU HAVE A MULTIFAMILY UNIT THAT IS THREE QUARTER INCH WATER METERS, IT'S THE SAME RATE OR SAME FEE $5,728.

UM, AND THE SEWER CAPACITY FEE IS THE SAME, BUT IT ALSO IS BASED ON EACH DWELLING UNIT.

THE COMMERCIAL SCHEDULE IS VERY SIMILAR.

IT HAS THAT THREE QUARTER INCH BASE METER SIZE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT, AND THAT WATER CAPACITY IS THE SAME $5,728, AND THE SEWER CAPACITY IS THE 3700.

THIS IS A VERY TYPICAL APPROACH FOR ASSESSING YOUR CAPACITY FEES TO NEW CUSTOMERS.

IT'S BASED ON METER SIZE.

I DO HAVE SOME NUMBERS TO SHOW YOU, BUT AS YOU SEE, THIS IS DRAFT FOR OUR DISCUSSIONS AND WHEN WE COME BACK, WE ARE HOPING TO FILL IN THE RED AREAS HERE IN THIS TABLE. WE ARE COMPILING INFORMATION FOR ALL THREE METHODOLOGIES FOR YOUR WATER FUND AND WASTEWATER FUND.

THIS IS SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION ON WHICH APPROACH YOU FEEL IS THE BEST FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU.

WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IS SOME INFORMATION ON THE FIXED ASSETS OR THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE IN YOUR WATER AND WASTEWATER FUND. FIXED ASSETS CAN BE VALUED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

WE CAN USE THE ORIGINAL COST OF THE ASSET.

WE COULD USE THE.

NET BOOK VALUE OF THE ASSET.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE FINANCE PEOPLE, YOU PROBABLY UNDERSTAND THESE TERMS. A COMMON APPROACH THAT WE FIND IN THE INDUSTRY IS THE REPLACEMENT COST NEW, LESS DEPRECIATION.

SO OUR CNLD AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE ORIGINAL COST OF THE ASSET IN TODAY'S DOLLARS.

SO WE PUT A COST ESCALATOR ON THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

AND THEN WE TAKE OUT DEPRECIATION.

SO THE VALUE OF YOUR SYSTEM IN TODAY'S DOLLARS WITH WITH ALL THE DEPRECIATION SUBTRACTED THE WATER FUND VALUE IN THAT IN THOSE TERMS IS 181.8 MILLION.

AND THE WASTEWATER FUND IS 182.9 MILLION.

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THE EXISTING CAPACITY DETERMINE WITH DISCUSSIONS THROUGH DISCUSSIONS WITH YOUR STAFF, IS UP 16.9 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OR MGD.

THAT MEANS THAT YOUR WATER SYSTEM CAN DELIVER ON A.

IT'S ACTUALLY A MAXIMUM DAY BASIS, 16.9 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

WE'RE SAYING THAT THE TREATMENT IS THE LIMITING FACTOR IN THIS CASE.

SO THE TREATMENT THROUGH YOUR WELLS AND YOUR THE REST OF YOUR SYSTEM IS THAT LIMIT.

WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT LATER IF YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE.

IN DISCUSSIONS WITH YOUR STAFF, WE'VE SEEN THAT THE INTERCEPTORS OR THE LARGER PIPES THAT COLLECT WASTEWATER FROM ALL OF YOUR CUSTOMERS AND DELIVER IT TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IS THE LIMITING FACTOR.

AND THAT TREATMENT OR EXCUSE ME, THAT CAPACITY IS 10.28 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD AND IT ALSO WILL DRIVE THE RESULTS.

THE SECOND METHOD THAT WE'RE GOING TO THAT WE HAVE SOME VALUES FOR IS THE TOTAL, THE INCREMENTAL METHOD.

THAT'S WHERE WE LOOK AT YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM COSTS.

AND WE TALKED WITH YOU AT GREAT LENGTH ABOUT THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM COSTS BACK IN OCTOBER.

SO WE HAVE THE TOTAL CIP ON THE WATER SIDE AS 209.5 MILLION, BUT WE'RE LIMITED TO THE EXPANSION PORTION ONLY OR THE GROWTH PORTION ONLY.

SO WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT JUST THAT GROWTH PIECE, IT'S 70.5 MILLION.

ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE OUT OF $112.3 MILLION OVER TEN YEARS.

BY THE WAY, THE.

THERE ARE $36.8 MILLION OF GROWTH RELATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

SOME OF THESE GROWTH RELATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE A PORTION ARE FOR EXISTING CUSTOMERS AND A PORTION ARE FOR GROWTH.

SO WE HAVE WE DON'T HAVE ALL PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER OR.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL MULTI-PURPOSE PROJECTS.

THE NEXT PIECE THAT'S CRITICAL TO OBTAIN FOR THE INCREMENTAL METHOD CALCULATION IS THE CAPACITY PROVIDED IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S EXISTING.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE CALL THE INCREMENTAL CAPACITY.

AND THAT'S STILL IN PROGRESS.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT.

THAT MEANS THAT THE COMBINED METHOD.

SUMS TOGETHER THE VALUES OF YOUR EXISTING SYSTEM AND YOUR GROWTH RELATED CIP.

AND IT ALSO SUMS TOGETHER THE TOTAL SYSTEM CAPACITY.

THAT SIMPLE CALCULATION THAT I SHOWED YOU AT THE BEGINNING IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING THAT WE HAVE, AND WE'LL DIVIDE THE TOTAL SYSTEM VALUE BY THE TOTAL SYSTEM CAPACITY TO CALCULATE THE FEE.

ONE LAST PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WILL ASK YOU TO CONSIDER.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE CALL THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE THREE QUARTER INCH WATER METER SIZE IS OUR STANDARD, OUR BASIS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL EQUIVALENT.

WELL, WE ALSO KNOW THAT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL EQUIVALENT REQUIRES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CAPACITY IN THE SYSTEM'S WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS. WE CALL THAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IN THIS CASE IS A MAXIMUM DAY AMOUNT OF WATER NEEDED OR WASTEWATER FLOW THAT IS USED.

YOU'RE THERE'S TWO ALTERNATIVES HERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING FEE.

SO YOUR EXISTING CAPACITY FEE WAS BASED ON A LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT LOOKED AT THE ACTUAL USAGE FOR YOUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS AND THE ACTUAL PEAKING FOR YOUR FOR YOUR EXISTING CUSTOMERS.

THAT VALUE WAS 286 GALLONS PER DAY, AND THAT IS A VALUE THAT CAME FROM YOUR WATER SYSTEM.

MASTER PLAN. WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, MASTER PLAN.

ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, THAT VALUE WAS DETERMINED TO BE 90% OF THE WATER LEVEL OF SERVICE, SO WE GET 257 GALLONS PER DAY.

THESE VALUES ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN WE CALCULATE THE FEE FOR THE THE COMBINED METHOD OR THE INCREMENTAL METHOD OR ANY OF THESE METHODS, WE THEN MULTIPLY THAT FEE BY THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TO CALCULATE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT TO CHARGE TO NEW CUSTOMERS FOR A THREE QUARTER INCH METER.

SO IF YOU'RE DIVIDING.

A LARGE NUMBER BY A SMALL NUMBER.

YOU CAN IMAGINE. WHAT?

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WHEREAS WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT.

THE PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE TO LEVEL OF SERVICE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT YOUR YOUR ACTUAL DESIGN CAPACITY FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL EQUIVALENT.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH IS NEEDED TO RESERVE IN YOUR SYSTEM FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL EQUIVALENT AND USING YOUR YOUR CODE, THE CITY CODE, WE CALCULATE THAT THAT VALUE IS 875 GALLONS PER DAY.

ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, A 90% UH FACTOR WAS USED TO CALCULATE THE WASTEWATER LEVEL OF SERVICE, AND THAT'S 788 GALLONS PER DAY.

THESE TWO APPROACHES RESULT AND WILL RESULT IN DIFFERENT FEES.

AND HERE'S A LITTLE TEASER FOR YOU WHEN WE COME BACK TO TALK TO YOU NEXT, WE WILL SHOW YOU WHAT THOSE RESULTS ARE.

AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE.

AND AGAIN, I MENTIONED THAT YOUR EXISTING CAPACITY FEE FOR THREE QUARTER INCH METER USING THE LOWER LEVEL OF SERVICE IS $5,728 FOR THE WATER FUND AND $3,723 FOR THE WASTEWATER FUND.

I HAVE ONE MORE CAPACITY FEE SLIDE BEFORE YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN ASKING QUESTIONS.

AND THAT'S A CAPACITY FEE COMPARISON.

IF YOU RECALL, A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE SHOWED YOU WHAT YOUR REGULAR WATER AND WASTEWATER BILLS ARE COMPARED TO YOUR PEERS.

AND THOSE PEERS WERE FACTORED IN BASED ON SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF.

SO WE HAVE SOME OF YOUR PEERS ARE UNIVERSITY COMMUNITIES LIKE BOULDER AND BEND AND GOLDEN, COLORADO.

BOULDER, COLORADO.

GOLDEN, COLORADO. BEND, OREGON.

AND THEN HERE ARE YOUR CURRENT CAPACITY FEES.

THEN WE HAVE SOME OTHER MOUNTAIN TOWNS IN COLORADO AND SOME TOWNS, I SHOULDN'T SAY TOWNS, CITIES NEAR, UM, NEAR YOU.

SO WITH THIS COMPARISON, YOU COULD SEE THAT FLAGSTAFF'S CURRENT CAPACITY FEES ARE IN THE UPPER, ROUGHLY UPPER THIRD OF THE SAMPLE. THE THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT MANY OF THESE COMMUNITIES ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING THEIR CAPACITY FEES.

THEY'RE UNDERGOING STUDIES JUST LIKE YOU.

SO THESE ARE FEES CURRENTLY TODAY, THEY LIKELY WILL CHANGE.

AND IN FACT, I KNOW FOR A FACT THE PAGOSA AREA WATER AND SANITATION DISTRICT IN COLORADO IS RAISING THEIR FEES A LOT.

SO THESE ARE THESE FEES ARE UNDERGOING SOME CHANGES.

AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE FINAL ADOPTED VALUES YET.

BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

ANOTHER THING I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER IS THAT EACH OF THESE COMMUNITIES HAS DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SERVICE, DIFFERENT CAPACITIES IN THEIR SYSTEM, AND THEY ARE AT A DIFFERENT STAGE WITH THEIR THEIR SYSTEMS. SO WHETHER THEY HAVE EXISTING CAPACITY OR THEY'RE PLANNING FOR FUTURE CAPACITY, THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR FEES.

SO YOU JUST HAVE TO TAKE THAT, UM, INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS COMPARISON.

I'M GOING TO PAUSE HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS, OR IF YOU WANT ME TO KEEP GOING.

COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION AND MY APOLOGIES IF I DIDN'T CATCH IT WHEN YOU WERE, UM, PRESENTING. SO I'VE BEEN ASKED BEFORE WHY OUR CAPACITY FEES ARE SO HIGH AND THAT'S NOT IN RELATION TO ANY OTHER COMMUNITY.

IT'S JUST, UM, UM, A STATEMENT AND THIS IS, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, UM.

WE'RE ONLY CHARGING WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS TO DELIVER THAT SERVICE, CORRECT? UM, MAYOR, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DISTINCTION THERE THAT IT IS.

YOU'RE CAUGHT CHARGING THE VALUE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS REQUIRED TO DELIVER THE SERVICE.

SO THE OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE EXPENSES ARE NOT INCLUDED.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE IN THE CURRENT APPROACH THAT YOU THAT'S FOLLOWED FOR YOUR FEES.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS PLANNED FOR YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD.

AND THAT TEN YEAR PERIOD WAS SET BACK IN 2016.

AND SO IF WE HAVE LARGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT NEEDS, UM, WE'RE NEEDING TO TO THINK ABOUT THOSE AS WE'RE PLANNING TEN YEARS OUT SO THAT AT SOME FUTURE TIME, UM, HOMES AREN'T BEING

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DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AND IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE THAT IS THE CORRECT INTENT OF ESTABLISHING CAPACITY FEES BASED ON YOUR PLAN FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID SUBSIDIZATION OF NEW OF EXISTING CUSTOMERS.

EXCUSE ME, OF NEW CUSTOMERS BY EXISTING CUSTOMERS AND VICE VERSA.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU. I COULD CONTINUE, IF YOU LIKE.

THAT WOULD BE GOOD. THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANKS.

THE NEXT SECTION IS SHORT.

THIS IS THE MISCELLANEOUS FEE SECTION THAT I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT.

AND AGAIN, WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY DOLLARS FOR YOU YET.

BUT YOU MIGHT WONDER, WHY ARE WE SPENDING TIME ON THIS? MISCELLANEOUS FEES ARE SOMETIMES CALLED ANCILLARY FEES.

THESE ARE THESE ARE SERVICES THAT WATER SERVICES PROVIDES TO CUSTOMERS.

AND THEY ARE ITEMS LIKE ON THE WATER SIDE, A WATER METER, INSTALLATIONS, SERVICE CHARGES, WHETHER IT'S TO SET UP AN ACCOUNT OR THERE'S A LATE FEE THAT NEEDS TO BE CHARGED FOR NONPAYMENT OF SERVICE.

OR IT COULD BE PERMITS FOR WATERING OUTSIDE OF YOUR REGULAR DAYS.

UM, THERE ARE BACKFLOW PREVENTION PERMITS, UNAUTHORIZED CONNECTIONS, YOU KNOW, PENALTIES FOR FOR MESSING WITH YOUR SYSTEM.

SO ALL OF THESE FEES ON THE WATER SIDE ARE IMPORTANT TO REVIEW, AS WELL AS THE THE SEWER SIDE, THE WASTEWATER SIDE, INDUSTRIAL PRETREATMENT DISCHARGE FEES, THOSE SCAVENGER WASTES THAT THE CITY'S WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT.

ACTUALLY INCURS COSTS TO TREAT THE SEPTAGE WASTES FROM WASTE HAULERS, RESTAURANT GREASE AND SOLID WASTE.

ALL OF THESE FEES REQUIRE STAFF TIME, EFFORT.

YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS, ALL OF THE COSTS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO RECOVER THE COSTS FROM THOSE COST CAUSERS SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE FACTORED INTO THE REGULAR WATER AND SEWER RATES FOR MONTHLY USERS. THE FEE PROCESS TO CALCULATE THESE COSTS OF SERVICE CAN BE SUMMARIZED ON THE WHAT I'VE GOT HERE.

ON THE SLIDE, WE ACTUALLY FIND OUT WHAT ARE THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE PROVIDED IN ORDER TO TO COMPLETE THE SERVICE.

SO WE LOOK AT THE STAFF, LIKE I SAID, AND THE HOURS NEEDED TO COMPLETE THIS.

WE HAVE A COST COMPUTATION TEMPLATE.

STANTEC HAS A MODEL FOR EVERYTHING, AND WE HAVE ONE FOR MISCELLANEOUS FEES.

WE CAN ALSO SURVEY YOUR OTHER UTILITIES TO DO SOME BENCHMARKING FOR ITEMS SUCH AS LATE FEES OR DISHONORED, CHECK FEES, OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, SO THAT WE'RE NOT ALWAYS TRYING TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT COSTS ARE REQUIRED.

THIS COULD BE A SURVEY OR A BENCHMARKING TYPE OF A REVIEW.

THE FORMULA IS HERE.

AND IT JUST BASICALLY IT'LL ASSIST IN DETERMINING WHAT THE COSTS OF SERVICE ARE FOR EACH OF THESE FEES.

AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS HOW MUCH OF THAT COST YOU WOULD LIKE TO RECOVER THROUGH THE FEES.

ANY QUESTIONS ON MISCELLANEOUS FEES? THAT WAS PRETTY SHORT. I DON'T SEE ANY.

THANK YOU. THE LAST PART OF THIS DISCUSSION IS GOING TO BE THE COST OF SERVICE ANALYSIS.

THE COST OF SERVICE ANALYSIS IS WHAT THAT TASK THREE TITLE IS AND IT INVOLVES MULTIPLE PARTS.

SO FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT CUSTOMER CLASS USAGE CHARACTERISTICS BECAUSE THAT IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE FIRM COSTS OF SERVICE. WE LOOK AT THE PROPORTIONAL IMPACTS ON YOUR SYSTEM BY DIFFERENT CUSTOMERS IN ORDER TO RECOVER THE APPROPRIATE COSTS OF SERVICE.

THEN WE'LL LOOK AT HOW YOU ALLOCATE THE SYSTEM COSTS TO DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS OF YOUR WATER SYSTEM AND YOUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM.

AND I'LL GO OVER THAT.

WHEN WE ALLOCATE COSTS TO FUNCTIONAL COMPONENTS, WE CAN THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, DISTRIBUTE THOSE COSTS TO THE DIFFERENT CUSTOMER CLASSES AND CALCULATE RATES. THAT'S OUR ULTIMATE GOAL.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY AND SUPPORT YOUR RATES SO THAT THAT'S WHY WE GO THROUGH THESE STEPS.

WE'LL FIRST TALK ABOUT CUSTOMER CLASS CHARACTERISTICS.

I KNOW THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH YOUR CURRENT WATER RATE SCHEDULE, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT REALLY QUICKLY.

YOUR WATER RATES FOR MONTHLY USERS ARE MADE UP OF A FIXED CHARGE OR BASE CHARGE, AND A VOLUME RATE.

THE MONTHLY FIXED CHARGE.

HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THE METER SIZE.

WE HAVE A DIFFERENT METER SIZE CHARGE FOR THAT MONTHLY CHARGE, AND WE HAVE AN INSIDE CITY RATE AND AN OUTSIDE CITY RATE.

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THE WATER RATES FOR USAGE ARE BASED ON 1000 GALLONS OF USAGE, AND FOR SINGLE FAMILY THE RATES ARE CALLED A TIERED RATE STRUCTURE OR INCLINING BLOCK RATE STRUCTURE.

THIS IS A PRETTY TYPICAL RATE STRUCTURE IN THE INDUSTRY WHEN YOU'RE ENHANCING CONSERVATION.

WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SEND A SIGNAL TO CUSTOMERS THAT THE MORE WATER THEY USE, THE PRICIER IT'S GOING TO BE AND THE BILL, THEIR BILL WILL GET HIGHER.

IT'S INTENDED TO INCENTIVIZE.

CONSERVATION. YOUR CURRENT TIERS HAVE DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF WATER THAT ARE INCLUDED IN EACH TIER.

SO FOR THE FIRST TIER USAGE, FROM ZERO GALLONS A MONTH TO UP TO 3500 GALLONS A MONTH IS PRICED AT THE LOWEST WATER RATE.

SO THAT'S $3.44 INSIDE THE CITY.

IF YOU USE ABOVE THAT 3500 GALLONS, JUST LIKE A THOUSAND GALLONS MORE, THAT POPS YOU UP INTO TIER TWO.

SO FOR THE FIRST 3500 GALLONS, YOU PAY $3.44 PER THOUSAND.

THEN FOR THAT ADDITIONAL THOUSAND THAT YOU MIGHT USE, YOU PAY $4.45.

SO IT GETS ADDED TOGETHER.

AND THEN THE SAME CONCEPT IS TRUE FOR TIER THREE.

IF YOU USE OVER 6200 GALLONS, YOU GET CHARGED IN THAT TIER THREE AS WELL.

AND THEN THE THE HIGHEST USERS ARE IN TIER FOUR, AND THAT'S ANY USAGE GREATER THAN 11,500 GALLONS AT THE HIGHEST RATE OF $13.72. I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE WATER ENERGY CHARGE OR THE WATER RESOURCE CHARGE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE EXTERNAL TO THIS RATE STUDY.

WE ALSO HAVE UNIT RATES OR WATER RATES PER 1000 GALLONS FOR YOUR OTHER CUSTOMER CLASSES, AND THAT IS TRUE BECAUSE OF THEIR USAGE CHARACTERISTICS.

JUST A LITTLE CAVEAT HERE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT YOUR RATE STRUCTURE, WE WILL LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE RATE STRUCTURES FOR THESE OTHER TYPES OF CUSTOMER CLASSES AS WELL AS SINGLE FAMILY. SO THAT'S THE WATER RATE STRUCTURE.

HOW MANY CUSTOMERS DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR WATER SYSTEM? WE COMPILED BILLING DATA FOR 2023 FISCAL YEAR 2023.

SO STARTING IN JULY OF 2022 AND ENDING IN JUNE OF 2023.

YOUR CUSTOMERS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, ARE PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL.

UM, THE RESIDENTIAL IN THIS CASE INCLUDES MULTIFAMILY.

WE HAVE NOT SPLIT THEM OUT.

SO YOU HAVE ABOUT 21,400 ACCOUNTS THAT ARE CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL OR MULTIFAMILY.

AND THEN THESE THE REST OF THE CUSTOMER, NONRESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS ARE, UM, LISTED HERE IN ORDER OF NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS.

SO YOUR NEXT HIGHEST CUSTOMER CLASS IS BY NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS IS A LITTLE OVER 1700 FOR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS.

SO IN TOTAL WE'RE LOOKING AT 20 TODAY 23,617 ACCOUNTS.

WE CAN COMPARE THAT TO THE CONSUMPTION BY CUSTOMER CLASS.

SO. THE CHALLENGE IS GETTING ALL THE DATA IN FRONT OF YOU ON A SLIDE.

SO WE'RE JUST SHOWING YOU INSIDE CITY WATER CONSUMPTION AND THE CURRENT RATES.

THE INSIDE CITY.

CUSTOMER CLASS USAGE IS ALL LISTED HERE AND IT'S LISTED IN 1000 GALLONS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS 739,000 644,000 GALLONS.

SO THIS IS REALLY 739.6 MILLION GALLONS.

AND THIS IS CONSUMPTION OVER A YEAR.

THE SINGLE FAMILY CUSTOMER CLASS IS BROKEN DOWN INTO THOSE TIERS.

SO OUT OF, UM, OUT OF THE USAGE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, YOU SEE THAT THE HIGHEST PROPORTION OF USAGE IS IN THAT TIER ONE, SO 0 TO 3500 GALLONS. THAT GIVES YOU AN INDICATION OF HOW YOUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS ARE USING WATER.

WE STILL HAVE ABOUT 2% OF THAT RESIDENTIAL USAGE IN THAT TOP TIER.

SO YOU STILL HAVE SOME CUSTOMERS USING OVER 11,500 GALLONS.

AND SO WE'LL WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE AS WELL.

THE REST OF YOUR CUSTOMER CLASSES USE THESE CORRESPONDING AMOUNTS OF WATER.

AND AGAIN THIS IS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2023.

TO YOUR THE TOTAL USAGE INSIDE THE CITY.

WE'RE CALCULATING TO BE 2.2 BILLION GALLONS OF WATER.

NOW AGAIN, IF YOU ADD TO THAT YOUR OUTSIDE CITY CUSTOMERS, YOU'D HAVE MORE WATER DELIVERED.

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YOUR SEWER RATES ARE DIFFERENT THAN YOUR WATER RATES.

REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE ON THE WATER RATE SIDE THAT MONTHLY BASE CHARGE OR FIXED CHARGE BY METER SIZE.

YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT CURRENTLY FOR SEWER RATES, YOUR SEWER RATES ARE STRICTLY A DOLLAR PER THOUSAND, A DOLLAR AMOUNT PER THOUSAND GALLONS.

THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT VARIES DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF CUSTOMER YOU ARE.

SO IF YOU'RE SINGLE FAMILY AND YOU'RE AN INSIDE CITY CUSTOMER, YOU PAY $5.35 PER THOUSAND GALLONS OF SEWER FLOW.

THE SEWER FLOW IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SEWER METERS, RIGHT? FOR RESIDENTIAL FLOW, THAT WOULD BE GROSS.

BUT WE HAVE OUR RESIDENTIAL USAGE IS BASED ON AVERAGING THE WATER USED IN THE WINTER.

AND THOSE WINTER MONTHS ARE DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND MARCH.

THAT AVERAGE IS CALCULATED EACH YEAR.

THEN IT'S APPLIED AS THIS FOR THE SEWER BILL CALCULATIONS FOR THESE CUSTOMERS MONTH OVER MONTH OVER MONTH FOR THE SUBSEQUENT MONTHS.

SO IT'S A VERY STABLE WAY TO BILL FOR WASTEWATER SERVICE.

IT'S VERY COMMON IN THE INDUSTRY BECAUSE WINTER MONTHS ARE A PROXY FOR INDOOR WATER USE AND WATER USE THAT GETS RETURNED TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT SYSTEM.

SO IT'S A PRETTY COMMON APPROACH.

WE ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT RATES FOR OTHER NONRESIDENTIAL CLASSES.

AND AS YOU HAD REQUESTED WAY BACK WHEN THESE WHEN THE RATE STUDY WAS BEING CONTEMPLATED, WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THESE AS WELL.

FOR THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM.

YOU HAVE FEWER ACCOUNTS.

UM, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WATER ACCOUNTS THAT ARE IRRIGATION RELATED.

IRRIGATION ONLY.

UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME WASTE, SOME WATER ACCOUNTS THAT DO NOT USE YOUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM, BUT YOU HAVE QUITE A FEW THAT DO.

MOST ARE RESIDENTIAL. RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNTS AGAIN.

SO AGAIN, YOU'RE PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL.

ACCOUNTS HERE.

FOR WASTEWATER USAGE.

WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THAT FLOW THAT GOES BACK TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT AGAIN, RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS HAVE THE BULK OF THE FLOW.

THIS IS INSIDE CITY AGAIN.

AND THE VARIOUS NONRESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS DISCHARGE THIS AMOUNT OF FLOW IN FISCAL YEAR 2023.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THESE USAGE CHARACTERISTICS BECAUSE AGAIN, WE USE THEM IN OUR COST OF SERVICE PROCESS.

ONE MORE RATE TYPE AND THAT'S RECLAIMED.

RECLAIMED WATER AS YOU KNOW, IS IS FROM YOUR TREATMENT OF YOUR WASTEWATER.

AND YOU HAVE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CUSTOMERS WHO PAY FOR USING RECLAIMED WATER AT CERTAIN TIMES.

YOU HAVE THAT SAME TIERED STRUCTURE FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS, FOR RETAIL, EXCUSE ME, RECLAIMED.

AND THEY PAY THE ASSOCIATED RATE PER 1000 GALLONS.

FOR NON RESIDENTIAL YOU HAVE VERY SPECIFIC RATE STRUCTURES OR RATE SCHEDULES.

THE OFF PEAK AND GOLF COURSE RATE IS OF PARTICULAR INTEREST BECAUSE OF HOW THEY TAKE THEIR WATER.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE TYPES OF RATE CLASSES FOR RECLAIMED.

THERE ARE A TOTAL OF OR.

THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 106 ACCOUNTS.

AND YOU HAVE VARIOUS CUSTOMER TYPES, JUST LIKE IN WATER AND JUST LIKE IN WASTEWATER.

IN THIS CASE, THE THE BULK OF YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE NONRESIDENTIAL.

THIS NEXT TABLE.

JUST OUTLINES THE AMOUNT OF RECLAIMED WATER TAKEN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 BY EACH OF THESE CUSTOMER CLASSES.

I WANTED TO GET TO THIS SLIDE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE ON THE HISTORICAL NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL WATER BILLS PER 1000 GALLONS.

AND I BELIEVE YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THIS IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, THIS WAS SOMETHING WE WERE WORKING ON WITH TAKING THE RESIDENTIAL WATER BILLS AND LOOKING AT HOW MANY WATER BILLS WERE ISSUED EACH MONTH AND OVER THE FULL YEAR, FULL 12 MONTHS FOR INCREMENTS OF WATER USAGE.

SO THE THE CHART WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS GRAPH FIRST.

THE GRAPH SHOWS US HOW MANY BILLS OVER A YEAR FROM RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS WERE ISSUED OR SENT OUT FOR DIFFERENT LEVELS OF USAGE, SO FOR NO USAGE AT ALL. SO CUSTOMERS WHO DIDN'T USE ANY WATER, YOUR CUSTOMER, UM, THE NUMBER OF BILLS THAT YOU SENT OUT WAS JUST ABOUT PROBABLY LIKE 7000 BILLS FOR THE YEAR.

THEN FOR THOSE CUSTOMERS WHO USED A THOUSAND GALLONS OF WATER IN A MONTH, THE NUMBER OF BILLS WAS JUST OVER 26,000 BILLS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE 22,000 RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT EACH MONTH AND HOW MANY BILLS WERE ISSUED

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THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT HELPS US LOOK AT THAT, THAT DISTRIBUTION OF USAGE ACROSS YOUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS AND HELP SUPPORT THE DIFFERENT RATE TIERS.

THE BOXES REPRESENT THE TIERS OF USAGE.

SO YOUR FIRST TIER IS SET TO BE.

IT'S LIKE IN BETWEEN LIKE 3004 THOUSAND GALLON MARK.

SO WE'RE NOT QUITE AS REFINED AS GETTING THAT TO 3500 GALLONS.

BUT YOU COULD PROBABLY SEE THAT, UM, YOUR INCREMENTAL OR CUMULATIVE NUMBER OF BILLS SENT BETWEEN 3000 AND 4000 GALLONS OF USAGE. I'M GOING TO REFER YOU TO THIS TABLE.

HERE IS I WOULD SAY IT'S CLOSE TO 60% OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL BILLS.

SO THAT MEANS THE BULK OF YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE BILLED IN THAT FIRST TIER.

AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THESE OTHER TIERS AS WELL.

THE TIER TWO THRESHOLD IS THAT 6200 GALLONS.

SO THAT'S WHERE THAT, UH BOX.

LINE SHOWS UP.

AND THEN TIER THREE IS ANYTHING, UM, UP TO 11,500 GALLONS.

SO YOU HAVE THESE, UM, THESE INCREMENTS OF USAGE.

AND THE RATES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO YOU COULD TELL BASICALLY HOW CUSTOMERS PAY FOR THEIR DIFFERENT WATER USAGE.

THERE'S A LOT. LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS SLIDE.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT.

AND THAT ASIDE FROM 2021, WHICH WE KNOW WAS THE DURING THE PANDEMIC, UH, THE USAGE, WATER USAGE ON AVERAGE FOR RESIDENTIAL BILLS IS DECREASING.

SO YOUR CONSERVATION EFFORTS AND OTHER OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ARE HAVING AN EFFECT ON AVERAGE WATER USE.

OR DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS IS A LOT OF BILLING DATA.

IT'S A LOT OF CUSTOMER CHARACTERISTIC DATA.

COUNCIL QUESTIONS.

OKAY, I HAVE, UM.

I HAVE A COUPLE WITHOUT CALLING OUT AND WITHOUT CALLING OUT WHO THEY ARE.

WHAT ARE SOME CATEGORIES OF OUTSIDE CITY WATER USERS? ARE THERE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE PROVIDE WATER TO THAT ARE JUST OUT IN THE COUNTY? YES. I'D HAVE TO ASK AARON.

ANSWER THAT OR.

AND THEN. I SEE RICK IS ONLINE AS WELL.

I KNOW WE HAVE LIKE SOME HOES THAT ARE UM, WE WHOLESALE WATER TO THEM AND THEY DISTRIBUTE IT WITHIN.

UM, THAT'S ONE THAT COMES TO MIND.

I DON'T KNOW HOW COMMON THAT IS THOUGH.

I DON'T THINK IT'S SUPER COMMON.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND, UM, THIS MIGHT BE TOO IN THE WEEDS.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT STANDPIPE.

IS THAT WHERE A WATER HAULER GOES TO GET WATER? YES. AND ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES IT SAID THAT WE JUST HAD FOUR USERS UNDER THE HYDRANT CATEGORY.

SO I'M THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE INDIVIDUAL HYDRANTS THAT ARE AROUND TOWN.

WHAT IS A HYDRANT THEN.

AARON. DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT TOO, PLEASE? THANKS. I'M GOING TO SEE IF RICK TADDER HAS HIS EARS ON.

I SEE HIM BLINKING.

YAY! I'M HERE.

I'M READY TO ANSWER.

UM, YEAH. THE HYDRANT IS THE THE METERS THAT WE SET UP AS A TEMPORARY, UH, WATER SOURCE.

UH, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S FOR CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES OR IT'S FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.

UH, THAT MAY HAVE WATER FOR, LIKE, IN THE PARK, WHEELER PARK AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO THAT'S WHAT A HYDRANT METER IS.

IT'S A TEMPORARY SETUP.

THANK YOU. AND ON THE ON THE PREVIOUS QUESTION.

I THINK MOST OF THEM ARE RESIDENTIAL TYPE, INCLUDING LIKE THE POCKETS OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

WE HAVE LITTLE ISLANDS OF COUNTY PROPERTIES, SO THAT WOULD BE SOME OF THOSE AS FAR AS THE OUTSIDE CUSTOMERS.

THANK YOU, MR. TATTER.

YOU'RE WELCOME. I DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL MOVE ON TO THE LAST PART OF OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

AND THAT IS THE ACTUAL COST ALLOCATION.

SO THIS IS THE THE NEXT STEP OF THE COST OF SERVICE ANALYSIS, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT ALLOCATING SYSTEM COSTS TO THE FUNCTIONS OF THE SYSTEM.

AND VERY BRIEFLY WHAT IS A FUNCTION.

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AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY TAKING YOUR ANNUAL OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE EXPENSES FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER AND RECLAIMED AND YOUR ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE COSTS AND YOUR ANNUAL CASH FUNDED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM COSTS, AND DROPPING THEM IN BUCKETS THAT ARE RELATED TO HOW THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS WORK.

AN EXAMPLE OF THIS IS ON THIS SLIDE.

THESE ARE THE WATER SYSTEM FUNCTIONS.

SO FOR THE WATER SYSTEM FUNCTIONS WE WORK I'M GOING TO SHOW LET'S SEE LEFT TO RIGHT.

AND IT STARTS WITH WATER RESOURCES.

SO IT STARTS WITH THE FUNCTION OF YOUR WATER SUPPLY.

AND IN IT YOU COULD HAVE RAW WATER PUMPING RAW WATER STORAGE BUT ESSENTIALLY IS GETTING THE WATER.

THEN YOU MOVE TO WATER PRODUCTION.

AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY TREATMENT AND SUPPLY OF, OF THAT UH, RAW WATER.

BUT IT'S TREATMENT.

SO NOW YOU HAVE FINISHED WATER.

THEN FINALLY YOU MOVE TO TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION.

SO THIS IS WHERE YOU TAKE THAT FINISHED WATER AND YOU DISTRIBUTE IT TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.

PART OF THIS IS STORAGE.

SO YOU HAVE STORAGE TANKS AND THEN YOU HAVE PUMPING.

SO YOU HAVE ALL THESE UM, ELEMENTS THAT ARE, UH, IN THE FUNCTION OF TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION.

OUTSIDE OF THAT ACTUAL ACTIVITY OF HOW WATER GETS DISTRIBUTED THROUGH YOUR SYSTEM IS THE ADMINISTRATION OF YOUR WATER SYSTEM AND YOUR WATER FUND.

ADMINISTRATION HAS MANY COMPONENTS, AND IT PART OF IT IS BASICALLY A MAINTAINING AND BILLING FOR METERS AND SERVICES AND FIRE PROTECTION.

IT INCLUDES BILLING OF CUSTOMERS AND METER READING.

SO ALL OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE TYPE FUNCTIONS.

IT IS CRITICAL FOR US TO DIVIDE AND ALLOCATE THOSE ANNUAL REVENUE REQUIREMENTS OR ANNUAL COSTS INTO THESE BUCKETS, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN USE THAT INFORMATION NOT ONLY TO ALLOCATE THE DOLLARS ACROSS TO CUSTOMERS, BUT ALSO TO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT MAKE UP YOUR RATES.

AND THE NEXT TIME I TALK TO YOU, I'LL PROBABLY TALK TO YOU ABOUT AVERAGE DAY DEMAND COSTS, MAXIMUM DAY DEMAND COSTS, PEAK HOUR COSTS, AND CUSTOMER COSTS.

WE CAN DO THE SAME THING ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, BUT WE GO THE OTHER WAY.

WE START AT THE HOME.

WE START AT YOUR CUSTOMERS BY COLLECTING THEIR WASTEWATER, AND THEN IT GOES INTO THAT'S THE COLLECTION AND CONVEYANCE NETWORK, AND IT GOES INTO THOSE LARGER INTERCEPTORS OR TRUNK SEWERS THAT TAKE AND CONVEY THE WASTEWATER TO THE TREATMENT PLANTS.

SO THE TREATMENT PLANTS ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN FUNCTIONS.

AND THERE ARE THEY ARE MANY.

ONE OF THEM IS TO ACTUALLY HANDLE AND TREAT THE FLOW THAT COMES TO THE PLANT.

ANOTHER IS TO REMOVE WASTE CONSTITUENTS.

WE COMMONLY LOOK AT BIOCHEMICAL OXYGEN DEMAND OR BOD AND TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS OR PTS, AND I PRETEND THAT I COULD GIVE YOU A GOOD DEFINITION OF THOSE, BUT I'M NOT AN ENGINEER LIKE I MENTIONED.

SO, UM, IF YOU LIKE DEFINITIONS ON WHAT THOSE COMPONENTS ARE, I KNOW WE CAN ASK SOMEONE.

AND THEN FINALLY THE THE.

JUST LIKE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE FOR WATER, WE HAVE CUSTOMER RELATED OR ADMINISTRATIVE RELATED COSTS ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE.

THESE AGAIN, HELP US DETERMINE HOW TO CALCULATE RATES AND ALSO HOW COSTS ARE ALLOCATED ACROSS CUSTOMERS.

I HAVE A TREATMENT PROCESS FLOW DIAGRAM FROM WILDCAT HILL THAT IS IN THE MASTER PLAN.

SO YOU COULD SEE THE DIFFERENT.

THERE'S EVEN MORE FUNCTIONS OR UNIT PROCESSES THAT HAPPEN AT THE TREATMENT PLANT.

SO WE'VE CONDENSED ALL OF THESE ACTIVITIES TO A REALLY A BASIC CATEGORY.

SO ALL OF THESE OTHER TYPES OF ACTIVITIES THAT HAPPEN AT THE TREATMENT PLANT ARE CAUGHT DRIVE THE COSTS OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT SYSTEM AND ALSO DRIVE HOW THESE COSTS ARE ALLOCATED ACROSS CUSTOMERS.

THAT WAS A VERY QUICK REVIEW OF COST ALLOCATION.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN WE CAN GO BACK.

I DON'T THINK WE DO.

FANTASTIC. THANK YOU.

I DO HAVE A NEXT STEP SLIDE SO THAT FROM TODAY UNTIL THURSDAY, WE ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTING THE SIMILAR INFORMATION TO THE WATER COMMISSION AT THEIR MEETING.

SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME PRESENTATION.

ON THE 19TH OF JANUARY, WE'RE GOING TO TALK WITH THE WATER COMMISSION ABOUT THE CAPACITY FEE RESULTS AND OPTIONS AND THE RATE DESIGN

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WE'LL PRESENT THOSE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND THEN WE'LL COME TO YOU AND OH, I YOU KNOW WHAT AARON? THIS SHOULD BE THE 20.

FOURTH, RIGHT? I THINK THE 23RD IS THE 23RD.

EXCUSE ME.

UM. THE JANUARY 23RD WOULD BE THE NEXT TIME WE COME TO ALL OF YOU WITH THE RESULTS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.

AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM HERE, I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH THEM.

I DO, UM.

WHERE CAN THE PUBLIC CONTINUE TO WEIGH IN ON? UM, THE.

THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

MAYOR. WHAT? I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD.

CAROL. NO, I DIDN'T I DIDN'T SEE YOU.

GO AHEAD. PLEASE. UH, MAYOR, UH, THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND WATER COMMISSION MEETINGS, OF COURSE.

AND THE COUNCIL MEETINGS.

AND WE HAVE ALL THE THE COMING DATES ON CLEAN WATER.

FLAGSTAFF. COM WE ALSO HAVE A PORTAL WHERE PEOPLE CAN ASK US QUESTIONS.

UH, THEY CAN CALL US.

UM, WE'LL WE ARE DISCUSSING OUR NEXT KIND OF PUBLIC MEETINGS.

ONCE WE HAVE NUMBERS, PEOPLE WILL COME OUT.

UM, BUT THE MEETING WE HAD LAST WEEK, WE HAD MAYBE TEN PEOPLE ATTEND A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND SOME PEOPLE THAT KIND OF ARE EXPECTING THIS, BUT WE EXPECT THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE A LOT MORE STARTING IN MAYBE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH AS WE ROLL OUT NUMBERS.

OKAY. SO SO YOU'RE PLANNING ON HAVING ADDITIONAL PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THIS AND WHERE IT SAYS JANUARY? WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE JANUARY 23RD AND IT SAYS SELECT CAPACITY FEE OPTIONS AND REVIEWS.

THAT'S NOT THE FINAL SELECTING WHAT RATES THAT WE WANT TO ADOPT.

CORRECT. MAYOR, WE'LL BE ASKING FOR YOUR DIRECTION ON CAPACITY FEES.

WHAT MODEL. BUT YOUR DECISION WILL COME IN MAY AND JUNE.

THANK YOU. AND THE OTHER PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY.

WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED OUR ROAD SHOW.

AND LISA DIEM IS SCHEDULING OUT MEETINGS WITH ANY GROUPS WHO WANT US TO COME AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE RATE STUDY.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY, UM, ORGANIZATIONS YOU'RE INVOLVED WITH, UH, SHOOT AN EMAIL TO US AND WE'LL REACH OUT AND TRY TO GET ON THEIR AGENDA.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

OKAY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

WHAT TYPE OF INPUT.

IS THE PUBLIC GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE? SO GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

THE THE PUBLIC CAN HAVE INPUT ON WELL ON THEIR WATER RATE FOR RESIDENTIAL.

LET'S SAY WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU OPTIONS, A LEVEL OF FUNDING OR AN OPTION ON HOW A RATE DESIGN CAN BE CHANGED TO MAYBE PUT MORE OF THE BURDEN, LET'S SAY, ON CAPACITY FEES, AND TAKE SOME BURDEN OFF THE CUSTOMER SO THEY CAN COME IN AND AND SHARE HOW THEY THINK THE RATE DESIGN SHOULD BE STRUCTURED, YOU KNOW, TO HELP A POPULATION IN FLAGSTAFF, LET'S SAY.

AND, AND CAROL CAN TALK ABOUT MAYBE MORE CREATIVITY AND HOW PEOPLE CAN COMMENT WHAT THEY MIGHT COMMENT ON.

UM, IF IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS, CAROL.

WELL, FOR THE FOR PUBLIC INPUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S DIFFICULT TO SEPARATE THE LEVEL OF THE FEE FROM THE TYPE OF FEE.

SO WE'D HAVE TO WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK FIRST ABOUT HOW FEES ARE SET, AND THEY COULD COMMENT ON THE SHARE OF COSTS THAT ARE BEING ALLOCATED TO THE, IN PARTICULAR TO THE RESIDENTIAL CLASS.

AND THEN WE COULD SHOW HOW THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES LOOK FOR WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU.

SO THEY COULD COMMENT ON THAT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

UM, I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION THAT THE LAST TIME THIS WAS DONE, I WAS ON THE WATER COMMISSION.

SO I EXPERIENCED THIS JUST AS ONE EXAMPLE.

THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THE MONTHLY BILL.

ONE IS A FIXED RATE.

AND IF YOU DON'T GET ANY WATER, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO PAY THAT.

AND THEN THE OTHER IS HOW MUCH YOU PAY PER 1000 GALLONS.

AND AS WE SAW THERE'S FOUR TIERS.

SO ONE THING WE DISCUSSED IS, WELL, WHY DON'T WE JUST HAVE THE FIXED COST BE ZERO AND THEN INCREASE THE, UH,

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AND THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE, UH, CONSERVATION.

BUT THEN STAFF CAME BACK AND SAID, WELL, THE PROBLEM IS THAT, UH, THAT MAKES THE WHOLE INCOME TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT VERY VOLATILE, WHERE IF YOU KEEP A LARGE PART OF IT, THE MONTHLY FEE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY IS ONLY UP HERE ONE MONTH A YEAR BECAUSE IT'S THEIR SUMMER HOUSE, WE STILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALL YEAR LONG. AND THAT GIVES MORE CERTAINTY TO WHAT THE COST IS OR WHAT THE INCOME IS TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THE TRADE OFFS THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATHEWS.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

JUST TO UNDERSTAND, FOR THE PUBLIC AND MYSELF A WATER BILL.

I'M LOOKING AT ONE RIGHT NOW.

UM. I KNOW IT'S NOT PART OF THE RATE STUDY.

UM, BUT JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS, UM, ON A WATER BILL, A WATER PROTECTION FEE, BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON USAGE.

AND THEN THERE'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FEE.

THAT'S JUST A FLAT FEE.

CAN YOU JUST QUICKLY EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE ARE? UH COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM FEE.

AND RICK CAN CORRECT ME IF I GET IT OFF IF I'M OFF AT ALL.

BUT THAT FUNDS SUSTAINABILITY.

AND THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

PARTIALLY TIED TO VOLUME, NOT 100% TIED TO VOLUME.

AND THEN THE, UM, THE OTHER FEE IS, UM, WATERSHED PROTECTION, I THINK WATER RESOURCE PROTECTION FEE THAT GOES TO NEIL CHAPMAN'S GROUP.

AND, AND THAT FEE WAS DEVELOPED A COUPLE YEARS AGO TO ESTABLISH THAT, UM, WILDLAND FIRE PROGRAM.

AND THAT WAS, I UNDERSTAND, ADMINISTRATIVE ONLY.

THERE WASN'T REALLY MONEY IN THERE TO DO LIKE TREATMENT PROJECTS IN THE FOREST, IN OUR WATERSHEDS.

COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MATTHEWS.

THOSE WERE GOOD QUESTIONS.

SO NOW I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO EXPLAIN THE SUSTAINABILITY FEE.

AND I'M SORRY, SHE JUST OPENED UP THAT CAN OF WORMS. AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO EXPLAIN THAT OTHER FEE, THE WILD LAND.

SO WHAT DOES THAT GO TO FUND AND WHO DOES IT GO TO? NOT PERSONAL NAMES.

WHAT? YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE FOR USING PERSONAL STAFF NAMES.

NO NO, NO, DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, SO IN SUSTAINABILITY, WHAT DOES THAT GO TO IN THIS.

AND THEN IN THE WILD LAND FIRE, WHAT DOES THAT GO TO FUND? YES. AND YOUR QUESTIONS? I SEE RICK POPPED UP.

TO ANSWER THOSE.

YEAH. SO UNLESS UNLESS, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT'S ON IT.

THE WILDLAND FIRE, UM, THE RESOURCE PROTECTION FEE GOES TO OUR WILDLAND, UH, THINNING, OUR PROTECTION OF OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THE COMMUNITY, SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, ASSURING THAT, UM, UH, WITHIN THE FORESTS AROUND AND PROTECT OUR CITY AND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THAT'S THAT GOES TO WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL FEE, UH, UH, KIND OF HELPS WITH A LOT OF OUR, UM. YEAH, I THOUGHT NICOLE WAS ON.

I CAN HAVE HER SPEAK MORE TO IT.

UM, BUT IT'S IN LINE WITH THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE AROUND WASTE AND WATER, UH, AND TRASH AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

AND IT'S THE SUSTAINABILITY FUNCTION OF OUR ORGANIZATION AND DELIVERING THOSE THINGS.

BUT I WOULD LET NICOLE EXPLAIN THAT BETTER SINCE SHE IS ON TODAY.

HI. GOOD EVENING.

UM, THIS IS NICOLE, SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION REGARDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT FEE.

JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, THE CITY COUNCIL UPDATED THE ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT FEE ORDINANCE, WHICH FUNDS THE ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT FUND.

UH, WHICH PROVIDES SERVICES THAT SUSTAINABILITY, UM, EXECUTES, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT ENCOMPASSES OUR WORK IN RELATED TO WASTE PREVENTION, FOOD SYSTEMS, LITTER PREVENTION, LITTER CLEANUPS, CLIMATE ACTION AND SO FORTH.

AND SO THIS IS THE FUND THAT HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 2002, IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME WITH THE CITY, AND IT HAS BEEN PART OF THE MUNICIPAL SERVICES BILL SINCE THAT TIME.

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AND RICK, YOU MAY HAVE TO REMIND ME, I, I HAVE COVID MEMORY WHEN IT COMES TO YEARS.

I THINK IT WAS 2020.

UM, IT WAS UPDATED IN 2020 TO BE MORE EQUITABLE.

UH, AS THE RATES WERE DISTRIBUTED PRIOR TO THAT, IT HAD BEEN A FLAT FEE THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH WATER METER, WHICH MEANT THAT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT WOULD PAY $4 AND UM, A MULTI-FAMILY UM HOUSING UNIT, UH, WOULD HAVE POTENTIALLY FOUR METERS AND ONLY PAY UM, UH, $16.

UH, SO THIS FEE WAS REDISTRIBUTED.

UH, AT THAT TIME, THERE WERE NO ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT CAME INTO INTO THE FUND BALANCE, BUT IT MADE IT A MORE EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION BASED ON CONSUMPTION. OKAY, SO FOLLOW UP QUESTION THEN.

SO THEN EVERYONE THAT HAS A WATER METER.

BENEFITS FROM THIS FUND.

THEY'RE USING IT IN SOME WAY.

THEY'RE USING WHATEVER SERVICES THAT THEY GET.

IN SOME WAY.

IS THAT, AM I CORRECT? I'M JUST TRYING TO.

ALL I'M DOING IS TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THOSE FEES GO TO SUPPORT.

AND IF I'M AND AM I USING THAT SERVICE, AND IF I AM, WHAT IS THE SERVICE THAT I'M USING? THAT REQUIRES ME TO PAY FOR THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS I I'M NOT COMFORTABLE TAKING THAT QUESTION.

I BELIEVE YOU USE ALL THOSE SERVICES.

YES, BUT AND IF I MIGHT, WE'RE STARTING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT GO OUT WITH THE WATER BILL WHEN IT GOES OUT. BUT WE'RE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ADJUSTMENTS TO THOSE TONIGHT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ACTUAL WATER RATE.

I UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S RELATED IN THAT, HEY, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S PART OF THE THE, THE BILL THAT YOU RECEIVE OR THE INVOICE THAT YOU RECEIVE, UNDERSTANDING HOW AND WHY, BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT ADJUSTMENTS TO THOSE POINTS TONIGHT, JUST THE THE WATER SERVICES THEMSELVES.

NOT THAT THAT SHOULDN'T BE ANSWERED.

I THINK YOU CAN GET AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.

I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT FITS REALLY WELL WITHIN OUR DISCUSSION HERE TONIGHT.

YEAH. LET ME LET ME SEE IF MAYBE I CAN ANSWER A LITTLE BIT MORE.

IS, UH, WHAT WE SEND OUT IS A MUNICIPAL BILL.

IT'S NOT JUST A WATER BILL.

IT'S MORE ABOUT SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, SO TRASH IS ON YOUR BILL? UH, THESE TYPES OF SERVICES ARE ALL ON YOUR BILL, INCLUDING TAXES AND ALL THAT OTHER SERVICES WE PROVIDE.

THE THE CONSUMPTION AND THE THE FEES ARE JUST A WAY TO MEASURE AND GATHER REVENUES TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES, UM, THAT WE HAVE THROUGH OUR FOREST THINNING, WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT AND WATER WILDLAND FIRE MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS SUSTAINABILITY.

UM, IT'S JUST A MECHANISM THAT TIES INTO ON YOUR WATER BILL.

BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT WATER SPECIFICALLY.

AND IF I MAY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, RICK JUST MADE THE POINT PRECISELY TONIGHT.

WE'RE HERE ABOUT WATER.

THOSE OTHER ITEMS ARE NOT.

WATER. YEAH.

UM, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY QUICKLY THAT MAYBE STAFF COULD, UM, ANSWER THIS QUESTION AND SEND OUT A MEMO ON IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO IT TONIGHT.

STAFF WOULD HAVE MORE TIME TO REFINE THE ANSWER.

YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE ALL THESE OTHER FEES ON OUR UTILITY BILL? COUNCIL MEMBER MATHEWS THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.

I HAD THE SAME SIMILAR CONVERSATION WITH SHANNON.

UM, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, THIS RATE, UM, UM, EXERCISE THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH, UM, AND IN TRYING TO PEEL THE LAYERS OFF BECAUSE IT IMPACTS OUR CUSTOMERS, WHETHER THEY'RE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL.

UM, OVERALL, UM, I'M LOOKING AT A BILL RIGHT NOW WHERE THOSE TWO OTHER FEES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RATE INCREASE, BUT IT'S AN ADDITIONAL $50.

AND SO WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT IMPACTS TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS COUNCIL MEMBER S, OR AT LEAST FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THE BIGGER PICTURE, LIKE WHEN WE CUT IT OUT AND JUST SAY, WELL, THIS WATER RATES JUST THIS AND STORE OR UM,

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AND I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THAT MONEY GOES TO.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THEN THEY DON'T THINK WE'RE BEING VERY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH MONIES THAT WE'RE CHARGING THEM FOR SERVICES.

SO IT IS IMPORTANT. SO I KNOW, UH, NICOLE IS ON THE LINE.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MCCARTHY FOR ASKING FOR IT.

I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION AND BE MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ON THAT BECAUSE, UM, THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IMPACT ON OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND CONSUMERS, AND I THINK WE ALL WILL BENEFIT FROM UNDERSTANDING THESE OTHER THINGS THAT DIDN'T CHANGE.

BUT NOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO THEIR BILL.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.

YOU WILL GET THAT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS SO MUCH.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

I DON'T SEE ANY PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

SO THANKS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THIS IS FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

OKAY? ALL RIGHT, MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 12, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

WE HAVE WILLIAM TYLER HEAD.

[12. Public Participation]

I HEARD SOMEWHERE THAT, UH, TIRE DRIVING IS JUST AS DANGEROUS OR MORE DANGEROUS THAN DRUNK DRIVING.

SO I APOLOGIZE IF MY TIRED COMMENTARY BECOMES MORE DANGEROUS THAN DRUNK COMMENTARY.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UH, I WANT TO COMMENT ON WATER, SNOW OPERATIONS, PICKLEBALL AND NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

UH, FIRST WITH WATER.

UM, UH, MY, I GUESS CURIOSITY IS, UM, WHAT'S THE COST OF CRUDE TO MAKE THAT TO TO TRANSITION THAT WATER FROM SOURCE WATER TO POTABLE WATER? I'M SORRY. CAN YOU PAUSE THE.

THESE WERE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, AND THEY'RE APPROPRIATE TO BE DISCUSSED DURING THOSE ITEMS. UH, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY. IF I MAY, I THINK YOUR QUESTION WAS GOING TO GO TO DIRECT POTABLE REUSE.

IS THAT.

OH, NO. I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE COST OF CRUDE LIKE TO MAKE IT BECAUSE I WAS WHAT I WAS LEADING UP TO IS WHAT IS REALLY THE FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT COST TO TREATMENT OF WATER.

OKAY. UM, ANYWAYS, I CAN I'LL MOVE ON TO.

YEAH. IF WE'RE IN PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, IT HAS TO BE ITEMS THAT AREN'T THAT AREN'T ON THE AGENDA.

YEAH. SNOW OPERATIONS ARE ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY, SO I CAN'T.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

UM, THAT'S AN ESCALATION.

NOT ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO COME TONIGHT AND, UH, REMIND CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, UH, ABOUT NEXT AGENDA AND JUST SIMPLY REPEAT THE ICAN CITIES APPEAL, WHICH IS AN INTERNATIONAL CAMPAIGN TO ABOLISH NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

UM, AND SO I'LL JUST READ IT.

UM, OUR CITY IS DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE GRAVE THREAT THAT NUCLEAR WEAPONS POSE TO COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

WE FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN A WORLD FREE FROM THIS THREAT.

ANY USE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS, WHETHER DELIBERATE OR ACCIDENTAL, WOULD HAVE CATASTROPHIC, FAR REACHING AND LONG LASTING CONSEQUENCES FOR PEOPLE AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

THEREFORE, WE SUPPORT THE TREATY ON THE PROHIBITION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND CALL ON OUR GOVERNMENTS TO SIGN AND RATIFY IT.

UH, SO YEAH, THERE'S THE APPEAL.

UM, NEXT WEEK, DURING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, I'LL COMMENT ON STATISTICS AND DATA, SOCIAL HEALTH AND ECOLOGICAL IMPACTS. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, OR NEXT WEEK, I'M MOVING ON.

I HOPE YOU CAN MOVE THAT PETITION FORWARD AND EVENTUALLY PASS THE RESOLUTION.

BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UM, AND I HOPE EVERYONE GETS SOME REST.

THANK YOU.

COOL BEANS.

ITEM 13 INFORMATIONAL ITEMS TWO FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER.

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[13. Informational Items To/From Mayor, Council, and City Manager; future agenda item requests]

MERCIFULLY, I HAVE NOTHING THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

NOTHING TONIGHT. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

NOTHING TONIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

YOU GO ON THAT WAY TONIGHT, HUH? I GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS TONIGHT.

UM. I ATTENDED THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION MEETING A WEEK OR SO AGO, AND WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM ENGINEERING WHERE THEY ANALYZED AND MADE SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT SHOULD BE ON BUTLER, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S COME BEFORE COUNCIL, AND THE ENGINEERING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO KEEP IT.

WHAT IT IS 35 AND 40.

UM, THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION DIDN'T TAKE ANY FORMAL POSITION ON IT.

AND I THINK WHEN THIS GOES TO, UH, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE COMMITTEES THAT THEY MAY HAVE A RECOMMENDATION, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'LL PROBABLY COME BEFORE COUNCIL IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHEN.

WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS, WHICH WILL EVENTUALLY COME TO UM, COUNCIL FOR FORMAL APPROVAL BECAUSE IT'S AN ORDINANCE, AND SO THAT WILL BE COMING.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT COMES TO COUNCIL.

PROBABLY A LITTLE LONGER.

UH METROPLAN.

I USED TO BE THE CHAIR OF METROPLAN.

I SERVED FOR THREE YEARS IN THAT POSITION.

AND UNDER THE THE BYLAWS, I CANNOT SERVE ANY LONGER.

SO AT THE LAST MEETING, WE TOOK THE VICE CHAIR, JERONIMO VAZQUEZ, AND MADE HIM THE CHAIR.

AND MISS SWEET HERE, MIRANDA.

UH, SHE'S NOW OUR VICE CHAIR, SO WELCOME ABOARD.

THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

YEAH, JUST ONE THING.

UH, THURSDAY, UM, EVENING AT 530 IS THE, UM, NEWTOWN REMEMBRANCE, UH, AT THE MURDOCH CENTER.

UH, AND SO YOU'RE ALL INVITED TO ATTEND.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW MUCH I ENJOYED SERVING OUR SENIOR COMMUNITY TODAY AT THE JOE MONTOYA CENTER WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, MCCARTHY AND SWEDE AND OUR CITY MANAGER AND SEVERAL COUNTY, UM, SUPERVISORS AND EMPLOYEES. OH, YES, AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

AND IT WAS JUST A GREAT, UH, FEELING AND A GREAT TIME OF YEAR TO SERVE PEOPLE IN NEED AND PROVIDE THEM WITH A GREAT MEAL.

AND THEY WERE ALL VERY APPRECIATIVE.

SO IT WAS A REALLY NICE TIME.

THANK YOU.

UM, I HAD A GREAT MEETING WITH STAFF ABOUT THE, UM, SNOW HEROES EFFORT.

AND STAFF HAS PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS, AND SO I'M, UM.

I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT GET OFF THE GROUND AND, UM, REMIND PEOPLE THAT THEY SHOULD GET THEIR TOYS IN FOR TOYS FOR TOTS. THERE'S A BOX IN THE CITY HALL, CITY HALL LOBBY, AND THEY'LL PROBABLY BE PICKING THEM UP ON FRIDAY.

SO IF YOU HAVE TOYS TO DONATE, BRING THEM IN.

AND, YOU KNOW, BOXES ARE ALL OVER TOWN.

BUT, UM, DO THINK ABOUT DONATING SO THAT ALL THE KIDDOS CAN HAVE A TOY TO OPEN AND CITY MANAGER.

NOTHING FOR ME. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. OKAY, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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