Dec 14, 2023 City Council Budget Retreat

AND IT'S AFTER. SO DO YOU MIND, UH, STARTING OUR MEETING?

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[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this work session, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for discussion and consultation with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]

WE DO ROLL CALL? YEP. YEAH.

YOU WANT ME TO ORDER? OFFICIALLY? OH, I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

OKAY. TO ORDER.

GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.

8:30 HERE. HERE WE GO.

UM. ROLL CALL PLEASE. DAGGETT.

VICE MAYOR ASLIN. HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET. MR. KARTHIK, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? IT WOULD BE MY PLEASURE.

MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL AND MRS MATTHEWS.

COULD YOU, UM, READ OUR LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT? IF SOMEONE ELSE HAS IT OPEN, THEY CAN READ IT TOO, RIGHT? UM, THAT ONE'S HARDER TO TEST.

THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE ACCESSORY HOMELANDS OF THIS AREA'S INDIGENOUS NATIONS AND ORIGINAL STEWARDS.

THESE LANDS, STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS, BORDER MOUNTAINS SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLE.

WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.

WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE AS HOME.

CLERK. PLEASE NOTE THE MAYOR HAS ARRIVED.

AND, GREG, I'M GOING TO KICK IT OVER TO YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, VICE MAYOR.

GOOD MORNING. MAYOR.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD MORNING.

I AM WELL, THANK YOU.

UM, AND I THINK, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE JOINING ONLINE.

IS THAT THE EXPECTATION? I'M THINKING THAT THAT MIGHT.

OKAY. SHE HASN'T QUITE JOINED YET.

THAT'S OKAY. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH SOME HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS.

CJ, I KNOW YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ANNOUNCE TO THE GROUP.

UH GOOD MORNING MAYOR COUNCIL CJ PERRY, YOUR IT DIRECTOR.

I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TECHNOLOGY IN THE ROOM AND KIND OF THE ORDER OF BUSINESS, ESPECIALLY FOR STAFF.

YOU CAN SEE UP IN THE CEILING HERE.

WE GOT THIS BIG, UH, X WITH THAT'S ALL GREEN RIGHT NOW SHOWING THAT WE ARE LIVE AND AND MICROPHONES ARE WORKING.

WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY TUNED THIS ROOM IN THE, AND, UH, THIS PARTICULAR MICROPHONE TO PICK UP EVERYTHING ON THIS HALF OF THE ROOM.

SO IF YOU SEE THERE'S A KIND OF A CENTER LINE DOWN THE CENTER OF THE ROOM, ANYTHING ON THAT SIDE OF THE CENTER OR AT THE CENTER LINE, AND THAT WAY WILL NOT BE PICKED UP.

SO FOR STAFF, IF YOU ARE GOING TO COMMENT, UH, TO CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE TABLES.

IT WILL NOT BE PICKED UP ONLINE.

IT WILL NOT BE STREAMED, UH, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT EVERYTHING OVER HERE SHOULD BE PICKED UP.

UM, PLEASE ALSO NOTE THAT THESE MICROPHONES ARE SENSITIVE, SO THEY PICK UP SIDE CONVERSATIONS PRETTY WELL TOO.

SO IF AS LONG AS THESE ARE GREEN, IF WE'RE STREAMING, WE'RE LIVE, WE'RE ALL OF THAT.

SO EVERYTHING ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROOM WILL BE PICKED UP.

SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GO OVER THAT REAL QUICKLY AND LET YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU CJ. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.

[4. City Council Budget Retreat Presentation and Discussion Regarding FY 2024/2025 Budget]

I WAS, UH, THINKING THIS MORNING, UH, JUST HOW MANY OF THESE RETREATS, UH, THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF, UH, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.

AND BY MY COUNT, UH, I THINK THIS IS LIKE NUMBER FOUR.

UM, THEY'RE, UM, THEY ARE WONDERFUL EVENTS.

THEY ARE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT VERY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT, UH.

AND WE DO HAVE AN AGENDA, OF COURSE, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH, LOOKING AT THE FOREST THROUGH THE TREES EXERCISE.

AND TODAY, OF COURSE, STARTS, UH, THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THE FOREST THROUGH THE TREES METAPHOR.

WE WILL BE.

LOOKING AT THIS FROM A VERY HIGH LEVEL TODAY.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF REFRESHER THIS MORNING.

AND, UH, WE WILL KEEP IT HIGH LEVEL.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS TIME MARCHES ON AND AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THIS BUDGET PROCESS AND OTHERS WILL SPEAK TO THIS MORE ELOQUENTLY THIS MORNING, BUT, UH, WE WILL GET MORE AND MORE INTO THE DETAILS.

AND, UH, IT'S A LONG JOURNEY, BUT, UH, STRAP IN AND WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE.

UH, WE I'M GETTING READY TO MAKE AN INTRODUCTION, BUT BEFORE I DO, UH, IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT WE HAVE, UH, AN EMPLOYEE IN OUR, UH, COMPANY THIS MORNING WHO IS CELEBRATING HER 25TH ANNIVERSARY.

JEN, DO YOU WANT TO STAND UP? AND WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR WONDERFUL.

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YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'VE GOT THAT BIO HERE.

YES. OH, YES.

OH, YES. UM.

IN A MINUTE I WILL INTRODUCE OUR WONDERFUL FACILITATOR.

I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE GROUP THAT WITH THESE RETREATS, DO THESE OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL WHEN WE CAN FOR A VERY, UH.

UH, DELIBERATE PURPOSE.

AND THAT IS TO BRING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF.

NEUTRALITY, IF YOU WILL, BETWEEN STAFF LEADERSHIP COUNCIL AND HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION.

UH, SO EVEN THOUGH WE ARE LIVE STREAMING AND THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING, UM, WE VERY MUCH WANT IT TO BE, UH, INTERACTIVE AND ENGAGING.

UH, IT IS A RETREAT.

AND SO, UM, NOT QUITE AS FORMAL AS OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

A COUPLE OF NOTCHES BELOW THAT.

THAT SAID, WE DO HAVE A FACILITATOR TO HELP US, UH, STAY ON TASK AND ON TIME.

UH, AND JEFF KENNEDY, I THINK THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME FACILITATING THIS KIND OF RETREAT, AM I CORRECT? LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT, UH, UH, JEFF KENNEDY, WHO ALSO GOES BY PASTOR, UH, KENNEDY.

HE COMES TO US THROUGH LANCASTER LEADERSHIP.

WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE HIS LEADERSHIP TODAY.

HE'S A FACILITATOR IN DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION AND BELONGING.

HE'S A SPECIALIST THERE, HIS TOP CHARACTER TRAITS.

AND FORGIVE ME FROM READING OFF THE WEBSITE.

BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M GOING TO DO.

17 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS A PASTOR, MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER AND FACILITATOR.

25 YEARS IN THE RADIO INDUSTRY, YOU BRING A RADIO VOICE TO THE TABLE.

THAT'S GOOD.

UH, OVER 25 YEARS IN MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE AS A LINGUIST FOR THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY.

JEFF'S BACKGROUND AS A VETERAN PASTOR AND DIVERSITY TRAINER AND COACH WITH WALMART HAS ALLOWED HIM TO SEE AND EXPERIENCE THE LIVES OF OTHERS FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD. COUPLED WITH HIS EMPATHY FOR OTHERS, JEFF HAS MADE IT HIS LIFE'S PASSION AND MISSION TO FIGHT FOR EQUITY FOR ALL OF ALL, REGARDLESS OF GENDER, RACE, RELIGION, SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

THOSE ARE WONDERFUL CHARACTER TRAITS AND ATTRIBUTES.

AND, UH, WE ARE SO HONORED TO HAVE YOU HERE.

LET'S WELCOME OUR FACILITATOR, JEFF KENNEDY.

ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GREG.

UM, HONORABLE MAYOR DAGGETT, VICE MAYOR, ASHLAND, REST OF CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND AND EVERYONE ELSE IN ATTENDANCE.

IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE WITH YOU THIS MORNING.

AND SO I DON'T TAKE THAT LIGHTLY.

I DON'T TAKE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.

UH, IT IS WHAT WE SHOULD DO.

AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A LIFELONG MISSION TO FIND WAYS TO EMBRACE PEOPLE, THEIR DIFFERENCES, THEIR CULTURES, THEIR AGE, THEIR GENDER, WE'VE MADE THAT WAY HARDER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE.

YOU KNOW, UH, I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE THIS MORNING, AND IT'S THAT IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, THE GOLDEN RULE.

TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY WE'D LIKE TO BE TREATED.

SHOULDN'T BE COMPLICATED, RIGHT? IT SHOULD BE REALLY EASY. SO I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, THE REASON WHY I DIDN'T COME TO THE PODIUM IS BECAUSE NORMALLY, IF I STEP OVER HERE AND I'M AT A PODIUM, THEN I'M GOING TO START PREACHING.

SO. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT THIS MORNING.

UM, I'LL GO OVER THE AGENDA IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS, BUT I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY TO BE PRODUCTIVE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE STAYS IN TOUCH AND ENGAGED.

SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO DO JUST A LITTLE EXERCISE.

I KNOW THIS IS A FORMAL, INFORMAL MEETING, SO AND WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO THIS FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.

BUT I ACTUALLY WANT YOU TO LOOK AROUND THE ROOM, OKAY.

FIND SOMEONE IN THE ROOM THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WELL.

SO IT CAN'T BE ONE OF YOUR DIRECT REPORTS.

FIND SOMEONE IN THE ROOM THAT YOU DON'T KNOW.

WELL, TAKE A NOTEPAD WITH YOU, AND I WANT YOU TO WALK UP TO THAT PERSON.

AND I WANT YOU TO BEGIN TO ENGAGE WITH THEM.

HERE'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO TO DISCUSS.

I WANT YOU TWO TO DISCUSS YOUR SIMILARITIES OR YOUR DIFFERENCES OR A COMBINATION OF THE TWO.

AND I WANT YOU TO WRITE DOWN AS MANY OF THOSE AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN.

IS THAT SOUND GOOD FOR EVERYBODY ALREADY? GO. JUST ONE PERSON.

ONE PERSON. IF THERE'S SOMEBODY LEFT OUT, THEN GET IN A GROUP WITH A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE.

SOMEONE YOU DON'T KNOW WELL.

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YOU.

SO SIMILARITIES OR DIFFERENCES ARE EASY.

SEEING RANDOM. SO.

THAT'S. JUST.

NUTS.

NO. BUT I'VE. IT'S.

MY MOTHER'S ENTIRE MOTHER'S FAMILY.

OKAY. YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW, I THINK I KNOW, I KNOW.

MY MOTHER IS 100%.

ARE YOU? CHICAGO.

I THINK JUST ABOUT ANOTHER ONE MINUTE.

LOST PLANETS. OH, REALLY? OH.

I SUPPOSE. BUT I WASN'T VERY ATHLETIC.

UH UH, DO YOU BE 30S? YEAH. IT'S LIKE.

YEAH, I WAS. REPORT TO THE DIVISION.

HELLO, MR. JAMES. I COULDN'T STOP.

WHAT'S THAT? THAT'S ONE ON ONE.

OKAY. TIME'S UP.

TIME'S UP. VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD.

IF WE. TIME'S UP.

IF WE GET ALL KIND OF.

BACK TO OUR SEATS.

1470. BUT.

CHECK OUT. HEY! STOP! BECAUSE I CAN'T DO THAT.

HE'S TRYING. TODAY IS YOUR DAY.

YEAH. LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING SO THAT I CAN'T DO I VERY, VERY GOOD.

I KIND OF WANT TO. I WANT TO KEEP MOVING.

SO IN A SECOND I'M GOING TO ASK 1 OR 2 PEOPLE TO SHARE.

BUT. SO WHO WHO THINKS THEY HAVE THE LONGEST LIST, WHO HAS A PRETTY LONG LIST? WROTE DOWN PLAINTIFF STEPH ANYONE.

YOU'VE GOT A PRETTY LONG LIST.

OKAY, DO YOU MIND? AND YOU GUYS, THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING.

THAT WAS KIND OF FUN, WASN'T IT? YES. GOT TO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT SOMEONE THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW.

SO, UH. COUNCIL MEMBER LAURIE MATTHEWS.

WOULD YOU SHARE WITH US? YES. WELL, I DECIDED TO INTERVIEW THREE PEOPLE.

OKAY. UM, SARAH AND SCOTT.

I STAYED WITH THE S'S, FOUND OUT SOME REALLY TRASHY STUFF ABOUT, UH, SCOTT AND SARAH.

YEAH. SHARE THAT.

IN, UH, EIGHTH GRADE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH, DIFFERENCES OF INTERPRETATION.

ONE WAS A DANCE, THE DANCE.

OTHERS WAS A MUSIC SCHOOL CAMP.

UM, I'M NOT SURE WHO TO BELIEVE, BUT SARAH SEEMED TO BE A LITTLE DEFENSIVE ABOUT TRYING TO STICK WITH THAT STORY.

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UM, SAM MET THE TWO OF THEM, UM, AROUND, UH, 2019.

UH, HE'S BEEN IN PUBLIC WORKS THROUGH THE COUNTY AND THEN THE CITY.

THEY ALL LOVE MY BREAD.

YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVEN'T, UH, HAD A CHANCE TO EAT IT YET, I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE I'M AN AVID HORSE LOVER.

UM, SCOTT DOESN'T MIND THEM.

SARAH SAID THEY KICK AND BITE, AND SHE WOULD NOT BE AROUND THEM.

UM, SARAH AND I HAVE A VERY, UH, COMMON SOME SIMILARITY THAT WE'RE BOTH INTO HOUSING.

UM, AND, UH, WE SHARE THAT.

SO THAT WAS THE GROUP SUMMARY INTERPRETATION.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. HOW ABOUT KAREN? KAREN, I THINK WE HAVE TIME FOR ONE MORE.

WHO ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE? SO. OKAY. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. I GOT TO KNOW PAUL SANTANA IN OUR IT DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE SEVERAL SIMILARITIES WITH BOTH FAMILY.

MEN LOVE SUSHI.

LOVE MUSIC OF COURSE.

DIFFERENCES. HE'S IT.

I'M ANYTHING BUT.

AND HE'S DALLAS.

I'M NINERS AND I CARE FOR ANYBODY THAT PLAYS DALLAS.

YEAH RIGHT.

THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU FOR SHARING.

SO SO THE THING BOOM.

ALL RIGHT HOLD ON. THAT'S NOT WHERE THIS WAS GOING OKAY I KNEW THAT EVENTUALLY OUR SPORTS TEAM UH OF LIKE LOVE AND AFFILIATION WOULD COME UP.

AND THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO NOT BE ON THE TABLE.

SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WHEN WE GET GROUPS LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU REALIZE THAT SOMETIMES YOU WORK WITH PEOPLE PRETTY CLOSELY EVERY DAY, AND YOU REALLY DON'T EVER GET TO KNOW THEM.

YOU DON'T YOU DON'T DIG IN.

YOU DON'T. YOU DON'T ASK THOSE PROBING QUESTIONS THAT ALLOW US TO KNOW SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE INTIMATE ABOUT THEIR LIFE.

AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALL UP IN PEOPLE'S BUSINESS, BUT THE MORE THAT I KNOW YOU, THE MORE THAT I CAN APPRECIATE YOU, THE MORE THAT I KNOW YOU SEE, BECAUSE HERE'S THE POINT. YOU MATTER.

I MATTER. YOU MATTER.

I HAVE THIS REALLY RIDICULOUS CLICHE THAT I USE THAT THERE IS NO WE WITHOUT ME.

BUT THERE IS NO US WITHOUT YOU.

AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS.

WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU MAY NOT EVEN BE ON MY RADAR, BUT YOU'RE IMPORTANT TO ME.

SO THEREFORE, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU IS IMPORTANT TO ME.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO I JUST WANTED TO START THERE BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YES, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE DIFFERENCES.

BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FIND IS WE'RE MORE SIMILAR THAN DIFFERENT.

MAYA ANGELOU SAID THAT HUMAN BEINGS ARE MORE ALIKE THAN WE ARE UNALIKE.

AND THE MINUTE WE BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND JUST THE SLIGHTEST PART OF THAT, WE RECOGNIZE OURSELVES AS FAMILY.

AND WE ALL AGREE ON THAT TODAY.

FANTASTIC. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET STARTED.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE GROUND RULES.

WE DO HAVE AN AGENDA.

UH FOR TODAY WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT AGENDA UP ON ON THE SCREEN.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH IT LINE BY LINE BECAUSE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

BUT FOR UH, EVERYONE WHO COMES UP TO PRESENT, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT AT THE FIVE MINUTE MARK, WE'RE GOING TO PRETTY MUCH TRY TO STAY ON TASK. FIVE MINUTE MARK, I'LL PROBABLY JUST SUBTLY STAND UP AND MAYBE GO OVER THERE AND START FIDGETING AND WHATNOT AT THE TWO MINUTE MARK, I'M GOING TO GET OVER THERE BY THE DOOR WHERE YOU CAN SEE ME.

OKAY? AND IF WE IF YOU'RE OUT OF TIME, I'LL PROBABLY JUST, UH, TRY TO SUBTLY, UM, REMIND YOU THAT YOU'RE OUT OF TIME, GIVE YOU A 32ND COUNTDOWN.

I PROBABLY WILL INTERRUPT YOU AND SAY, HEY, LET'S WRAP UP IN 30 MINUTES.

AND IF IT'S ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE BELIEVE NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION, JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA TIME FOR THAT.

FAIR ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD. LET'S, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

FIRST UP THIS MORNING, UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE, UH, HAVE OUR BUDGET INTRODUCTION AND, UH, HEIDI DERRYBERRY AND BRANDI SUDA. I HOPE I SAID THAT RIGHT.

I ASKED FOR EVERYONE'S PRONUNCIATION.

SO IF I BUTCHER ANYONE'S NAME, I JUST KIND OF DO THAT.

SO JUST LET ME KNOW SUBTLY AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT I TRY TO GET IT RIGHT FROM HERE ON OUT.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S, UH. AND THEN I'M GOING TO ASK YOU FOR A HAND CLAPS OR HIGH FIVES OFTEN TODAY.

SO GOOD. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. MAYOR.

VICE MAYOR. COUNCIL STAFF.

UM, HEIDI DERRYBERRY, THE CITY'S ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR.

I'M HERE JUST TO KICK US OFF.

UM, VERY BRIEFLY, WITH SOME BUDGET INTRODUCTION.

UM, SINCE WE'RE NOT A NEW COUNCIL THIS YEAR, YOU HEARD A LOT OF THIS LAST YEAR.

BUT JUST LIKE TO REMIND, UM, EVERYONE, FIRST OF ALL, HERE IS, UH, OUR LOVELY BUDGET TEAM THAT IS NOW OUTGROWING ONE SLIDE.

UM, THIS TEAM HAS GROWN, UH, WHEN I STARTED EIGHT YEARS AGO, I THINK THERE WAS SEVEN OF US ON THE TEAM.

UM, AND NOW WE'RE UP TO, I BELIEVE, 12.

UM, JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY.

HE IS JUST A QUICK REMINDER OF WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

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UM, THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR IN THE DECEMBER JANUARY TIME FRAME, DEPENDING ON, UM, IF WE HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS OR NOT.

UM, AFTER THIS RETREAT, STAFF IS GOING TO BE BUSY, UM, PUTTING TOGETHER THEIR BUDGET NEEDS, THEIR REQUESTS, UM, PREPARING CAPITAL PROGRAMS, ALL OF THAT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

UM, WE WILL ALSO HAVE ANOTHER RETREAT IN FEBRUARY WHERE WE WILL BE BACK, UM, FOR A TWO DAY RETREAT WITH COUNCIL TO REALLY START DIVING INTO WHAT OUR REVENUES ARE LOOKING LIKE, WHAT OUR CAPACITIES, UM, WHAT OUR DIRECTION IS.

UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT BUDGET TEAM, UM, WE ENJOY A THREE WEEK PERIOD WHERE WE SPEND THREE STRAIGHT WEEKS WITH EVERYBODY FROM EVERY, ALL THE DIVISIONS IN THE CITY TO GO OVER ALL THEIR REQUESTS AND NEEDS.

UM, AND OUTSIDE OF THAT COMES THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH WE WILL BRING BACK TO COUNCIL IN APRIL.

SO, UM, AFTER WE HAVE THAT TWO DAY RETREAT IN APRIL, UM, WE WORK IN FINANCE TO PUT TOGETHER THE BUDGET, UM, TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION IN JUNE, ALONG WITH UM, PROPERTY TAX LEVIES, IF APPROPRIATE.

AND THEN JULY 1ST WE WILL BE IMPLEMENTING THE NEXT BUDGET.

SO I KNOW THAT'S A QUICK TWO MINUTE SLIDE, BUT IT TAKES US ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO GET THERE.

SO, UM, JUST A RECAP OF THOSE MAIN DATES.

TODAY IS OUR KICKOFF RETREAT.

UM, THE NEXT RETREAT IS FEBRUARY 1ST AND SECOND.

UM, AND THEN THE RETREAT AFTER THAT IS APRIL 25TH AND 26TH, WHERE WE WILL BE BRINGING THE CITY MANAGERS RECOMMENDED BUDGET.

AND THEN JUNE 4TH IS THE TENTATIVE ADOPTION, AND JUNE 18TH IS THE FINAL, UM, BUDGET ADOPTION IN THE FIRST READ OF PROPERTY TAX.

UM, AND JULY 2ND WILL BE THE FINAL READ.

SO THAT'S JUST A VERY QUICK, UM, OVERVIEW OF OUR TIMELINE.

AND NOW BRANDY IS GOING TO COME SHARE WITH YOU A FEW SLIDES ON THE COLOR OF MONEY.

THANK YOU. HEIDI. GOOD MORNING.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

BRANDI SUDA, THE CITY'S FINANCE DIRECTOR.

SO, UM, THIS IS A SIMILAR PRESENTATION TO WHAT YOU SAW LAST YEAR.

BUT JUST AS A NICE REMINDER, UM, THE CITY HAS NUMEROUS FUNDS WITH THE CITY.

UM, AND WE HAVE NUMEROUS REVENUE SOURCES.

AND SO IN ORDER TO TRACK ALL THAT STUFF, WE CALL THAT FUND ACCOUNTING.

UM, MANY, ALL GOVERNMENTS NEED TO TRACK THEIR, UM, DIFFERENT RESOURCES WITH FUNDS.

AND WE REFER TO THAT AS OUR COLOR OF MONEY TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, WITH THE NUMEROUS, UM.

REVENUE RESOURCES.

WE HAVE MANY RESTRICTIONS ON HOW WE CAN SPEND THAT MONEY.

SO THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS OVER 50 DIFFERENT FUNDS THAT SEGREGATES THOSE REVENUE EXPENDITURES TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE RESTRICTIONS AND ACCOUNTING STANDARDS, AND MANY INSTANCES, THE REVENUES FROM ONE FUND CANNOT BE USED TO PAY FOR EXPENSES IN ANOTHER FUND UNLESS THEY MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.

UM, SO WE HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT FUND TYPES, UM, THAT I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON.

FIRST, WE HAVE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, ENTERPRISE FUNDS, CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS, DEBT SERVICE FUNDS, AND THEN LASTLY THE GENERAL FUND, UM, WHICH IN OUR RETREATS, WE TEND TO SPEND THE MAJORITY OF OUR TIME TO DISCUSSING.

THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.

SO THESE ARE FUNDS THAT ACCOUNT FOR REVENUES DERIVED FROM A VERY SPECIFIC TAX OR OTHER EARMARKED REVENUE SOURCE.

UM, USUALLY ARE THOSE REVENUES ARE USUALLY, UM, RESTRICTED BY EITHER A STATUTE, A CHARTER PROVISION OR AN ORDINANCE TO FIND A TO FUND A PARTICULAR FUNCTION OR ACTIVITY.

SO HERE IS A LIST OF, UM, MANY OF THE CITY'S SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.

WE HAVE A HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SERVICES FUND.

THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE OUR CDBG GRANT.

UM, IT THIS IS WHERE WE FUND A LOT OF OUR HOUSING PROJECTS.

OUT OF THIS FUND.

WE HAVE A LIBRARY FUND.

THIS IS FUNDED WITH TWO DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCES, A SECONDARY PROPERTY TAX THAT IS ADOPTED BY THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS JUST GENERAL FUND TRANSFER TO HELP SUPPORT THE CITY LIBRARIES.

WE HAVE OUR HIGHWAY USER REVENUE FUND, OR HERF, WHICH IS A GASOLINE TAX.

WE GET A PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF GASOLINE SALES FROM THE STATE.

WE HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION TAX, WHICH IS OUR, UM, A CITY SALES TAX AT THAT 1.281 UM, AND THAT IS BROKEN OUT INTO FOUR DIFFERENT FUNDS WITHIN THAT TRANSPORTATION TAX.

SO WE HAVE TRANSIT, WE HAVE OUR ROAD REPAIR, STREET SAFETY, UM, OUR LONE TREE OVERPASS AS WELL AS OUR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS TAX.

WE ALSO HAVE HAVE OUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE TAX OR OUR B-B-B TAX, WHICH IS THAT 2%.

AND THAT TAX IS THEN BROKEN UP INTO FIVE OTHER DIFFERENT FUNDS.

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WE HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND 9.5% TOURISM AT 30% ARTS AND SCIENCE AT 7.5% AND RECREATION AT 33%.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR PARK FLAG, WHICH IS OUR PARKING FEES DOWNTOWN FUND THAT FUNDS THAT OPERATION.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR, UM, WATER RESOURCE AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTION FUND.

SO THAT'S OUR OUR WILDLAND FIRE OPERATIONS.

UM, TO PROTECT OUR WATER RESOURCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

MOVING ON. WE HAVE ALSO HAVE OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

SO THESE ARE USUALLY USER FEES.

UM AND THERE'S ORDINANCES THAT RESTRICT THEIR USE.

UM, SO THIS IS KIND OF OUR MOST OF OUR FEES THAT ARE ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE ON OUR MUNICIPAL SERVICES BILL SUCH AS WATER, WASTEWATER, TRASH CHARGES.

WE ALSO HAVE UM FUNDS THAT ARE FUNDED THROUGH RENT.

UM, SPECIFICALLY UM, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS SEVERAL RENTS AS WELL AS GRANTS.

AND OUR AIRPORT LEASES AND FEES FUND OUR AIRPORT.

SO THESE FUNDS INCLUDE WATER, WASTEWATER, RECLAIMED WATER, STORMWATER, SOLID WASTE, UM, SUSTAINABILITY AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT FUND, AIRPORT AND OUR HOUSING AUTHORITY.

RANDY, THANKS. UM, A COUPLE NIGHTS AGO AT UH, COUNCIL MEETING, WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT THE UTILITY BILLING AND SPECIFIC QUESTION, UH, SPECIFICALLY, QUESTIONS WERE ASKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF THESE FEES.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GET INTO A LOT OF DETAIL HERE, BUT I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT. AND THEN ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THE WILDLAND, UH, WATERSHED PROTECTION PROGRAM.

YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT.

SO, UM, SO.

ON OUR MUNICIPAL SERVICE BILL, AND I'M GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE RICK HELP IF I STUMBLE THROUGH THIS, OR YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT I'M NOT ABLE TO ANSWER COMPLETELY.

BUT WE HAVE OUR WATER, OUR WASTEWATER, OUR STORM WATER.

YOU WILL HAVE A SOLID WASTE FOR THE TRASH AND RECYCLING.

YOU WILL HAVE YOUR A SUSTAINABILITY FEE, WHICH IS A PERCENTAGE OF ALL THE OTHER FEES, AND THAT IS USED TO SUPPORT OUR SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT FUND.

SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, FUNDING THINGS LIKE, UM, THE FOOD WASTE.

I KNOW NICOLE COULD PROBABLY JUMP IN AND PROVIDE BETTER DETAILS ON SOME OF THOSE, BUT ALL OF THOSE SUSTAINABILITY ACTIVITIES THAT THAT DIVISION SUPPORTS.

UM, AND THEN ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WE HAVE OUR WATER RESOURCE AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTION FEE.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF OUR MORE NEWER FEES, UM, THAT WE ADOPTED A FEW YEARS AGO.

AND THIS REALLY, UM, FUNDS THE WILD LAND PORTION OF OUR FIRE OPERATIONS.

UM, SO THIS IS FOREST THINNING.

WE HAVE SEVERAL FTES DEDICATED TO THAT OPERATION.

WE ALSO SUPPLEMENT THIS, UM, FEE WITH LOTS OF GRANTS TO DO THAT.

FOREST THINNING, UM, TO PROTECT OUR, UM, WATERSHED AND WATER RESOURCES AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THAT'S HELP. YEAH IT DOES.

AND FOR COUNCIL'S BENEFIT.

YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION.

WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS I THINK PROBABLY IN THE CONTEXT OF THE WATER RATE STUDY.

BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION ABOUT ALL THESE ANCILLARY FEES, UH, THAT WE'RE BRINGING ABOUT SOME QUESTIONS THE OTHER NIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON IT NOW, IF THAT'S OKAY.

I. MOVING ON FROM ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

WE ALSO HAVE CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS.

AND SO CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS ARE USED TO, UM, ACCOUNT FOR MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS OR ACQUISITIONS.

UM, SEPARATE FROM UM THE OPERATIONS OF SO USUALLY UM, THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE FUNDED WITH A THIRD PARTY RESTRICTED.

SO IT COULD BE OUR VOTER APPROVED BONDS, OUR GEO BONDS, A GRANT OR OTHER THIRD PARTY FEES THAT ARE RESTRICTED.

UM, THIS IS ALSO WHERE WE HAVE OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROJECTS.

CURRENT ACTIVE UM, GEO BOND PROJECTS INCLUDE, UM, OUR.

WHAT'S AN OPEN SPACE LAND ACQUISITION FUND? WE HAVE OUR WATERSHED PROTECTION BOND THAT WE'RE WRAPPING UP, AS WELL AS PROP THE NEW PROPOSITION 441 AND 442 FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOUSING. WE ALSO HAVE OUR USGS UM CAPITAL EXPANSION.

AND ONE OF OUR OTHER NEWER FUNDS IS RELATED TO DOWNTOWN MILE.

UM, WITH THAT LARGE GRANT THAT WE SECURED.

NEXT IS OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND.

SO WE USE DEBT SERVICE FUNDS TO ACCUMULATE RESOURCES TO PAY THE PRINCIPAL INTEREST ON LONG TERME DEBT.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO FUNDS FOR THAT.

AGAIN, THEY ARE RESTRICTED FUNDS.

WE HAVE OUR GEO BOND FUND.

SO THAT PAYS OUR GEO BOND PROJECTS BACK THROUGH DEBT SERVICE.

AND THAT IS FUNDED WITH OUR SECONDARY PROPERTY TAX AS WELL AS WE HAVE OUR PENSION BOND FUND.

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UM, MOST OF THE FUNDS THAT COME IN FROM HERE ARE OUR, FROM GENERAL FUND, THE WATER RESOURCE AND PROTECTION FUND, AND THE AIRPORT TRANSFERS MONEY IN TO PAY THOSE DEBT SERVICES. BUT THIS IS ALSO WHERE WE HAVE OUR CONTINGENCY RESERVE, UM, FOR, UM, IF WE NEED TO, UM, DIP INTO THAT, SHOULD WE GO BELOW 100% FUNDED IN THAT PENSION? AND LASTLY, WE HAVE THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH ESSENTIALLY ACCOUNTS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT EARLIER.

SO TRADITIONAL SERVICES.

UM, SO THIS IS WHERE POLICE, FIRE MANAGEMENT SERVICES, ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, UM, PROS AND SO FORTH, JUST TO NAME A FEW.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS EVERYTHING ELSE.

A MAJOR REVENUE SOURCES FOR THE GENERAL FUND INCLUDE THE 1% CITY SALES TAX, OUR FRANCHISE TAXES, OUR PRIMARY PROPERTY TAX, OUR STATE SHARED REVENUES WHICH INCLUDE SALES INCOME AND VEHICLE LICENSE TAX.

WE HAVE LICENSING AND FEES.

SO THIS IS WHERE OUR BUILDING PERMITS GET CHARGED, CODED TO UM FINES AND FORFEITURES AND THEN USER FEES.

SO CHARGES FOR SERVICES FOR THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE WITH THAT ARE THOSE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE FUNDED WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.

SO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT RECREATION POLICE, FIRE CEMETERY, ETC..

CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND COLOR OF MONEY.

ANY QUESTIONS? AND I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'LL GET TO THIS, AND MAYBE THIS MIGHT BE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT.

UH HERF. WE START TO GET MORE ELECTRIC CARS.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THOSE REVENUES THAT WE LOSE FROM GASOLINE? I MEAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT UP, I GUESS? ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT AT SOME POINT? YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY.

UM, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S PROBABLY BIGGER THAN JUST THE CITY, RIGHT? THIS IS A STATEWIDE ISSUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RESOLVE.

AS YOU KNOW, THAT TAX IS A PERCENT PER GALLON, UM, COST THAT WE RECEIVE.

SO WE DO SEE VERY LIMITED GROWTH AS WELL AS A DECLINE IN THE OUT YEARS FOR THIS FUND.

AND IT DOES FUND THE MAJORITY OF OUR, UM, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

START THINKING ABOUT THAT AT SOME POINT.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

IT WILL THEN TURN IT OVER TO RICK TADDER TO TALK ABOUT REVENUE UPDATES.

THANKS, BRANDI. THANKS, BRANDI.

BECAUSE A SOCCER PLAYER ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH JUNIOR COLLEGE.

TO HAVE A LOT OF FUN WITH THAT, DIDN'T YOU? VICE MAYOR AUSTIN WAS MORE ABOUT INDIVIDUAL SPORTS LIKE TRACK AND FIELD.

HERE YOU GO. SOMETHING WE LEARNED.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

UH RICK TADDER. YOUR MANAGEMENT SERVICE DIRECTOR AND CITY TREASURER.

UH, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A REVENUE UPDATE, UH, FOR YOU THIS MORNING.

UH, THIS IS MORE ABOUT PROVIDING YOU WHERE WE ENDED THE FISCAL YEAR.

UH, FISCAL YEAR 2022, 23.

UH, AS WE WRAP IT UP AND GET YOU KIND OF A INSIGHT TO WHAT'S COMING UP IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

UM, IN FEBRUARY, WE'LL DO A MORE DEEPER DIVE AS FAR AS OUR PROJECTIONS AND, UH, MORE INFORMATION ON ECONOMY AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

UH, SO WE'LL JUST SET THE STAGE OF HOW WE WE ENDED THE YEAR PRIMARILY.

UH, FIRST OFF, UH, TALKING ABOUT, UM.

GENERAL FUND SALES TAX.

I KNOW VICE MAYOR AUSTIN IS NOT A SPREADSHEET PERSON.

HE TOLD ME SOMETHING.

WE'VE ALSO LEARNED A SPREADSHEET.

SO HERE'S A NICE BUSY SPREADSHEET.

UM, HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE FINISH THE APRIL RETREAT AND CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OUR SALES TAX REVENUES, WE DID SEE DECLINES IN THE MONTHS OF APRIL AND MAY, ABOUT BY ABOUT 5%, UH, PER MONTH.

SO THAT WAS AN INDICATOR THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT THE TALK WAS IN THE ECONOMY ABOUT MAYBE A SLOW DOWN IN A RECESSION.

HOWEVER, JUNE PICKED UP AGAIN, WHICH WAS GREAT.

UH, JUNE PICKED UP AND WE ENDED THE YEAR ABOUT 4% OVER OUR BUDGETED NUMBERS, WHICH IS GREAT.

UH, WE PROJECTED ABOUT RIGHT AROUND 3%.

SO WE WERE PRETTY CLOSE IN LINE WITH OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND SALES TAX LAST YEAR.

UH, ABOUT $130,000 OVER WHAT WE PROJECTED.

SO KUDOS.

WE GOT CLOSE ON THAT NUMBER, UM, BEGINNING THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

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UM, WE DID SEE, UH, SOME DECLINES OVER THE FIRST.

WHAT DO I HAVE, FOUR MONTHS OF REVENUES, ABOUT 4%.

HOWEVER, THERE'S ALWAYS A A CLAUSE TO THIS ONE.

WE'VE SEEN SOME SOME BIG ADJUSTMENTS IN OUR USE TAX REFUNDS GOING OUT TO CUSTOMERS BECAUSE THEY OVERPAID A USE TAX.

WITHOUT THAT ADJUSTMENT, WE'RE ACTUALLY AT ABOUT A UH, A 2% OVER PRIOR YEAR, WHICH IS GOOD.

UM, THAT'S A GOOD SPOT TO BE, UH, AS YOU REMEMBER, MAY REMEMBER, IN APRIL AT THE BUDGET RETREAT, WE WERE PROJECTING RECESSION ABOUT A 3% DECLINE.

SO, UM, WE HAVE BUILT IN, UH, CAPACITY.

AND WE LOOKED AT THAT RECESSION CONSIDERATION.

WE MAY NOT BE SEEING A RECESSION, UH, WHICH IS GREAT.

UM, BUT THESE NUMBERS ARE LOOKING GOOD AT THIS POINT.

UH, FOR US.

OUR STATE SHARED REVENUES, UM, SIMILAR IN OUR STATE SHARED SALES TAX SAW SOME DECLINES APRIL, MAY, BUT A GOOD REBOUND IN JUNE.

UM, IT ENDED ABOVE OUR PROJECTIONS.

UM, OUR STATE SHARED INCOME TAX.

WE ALREADY KNEW THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE THOSE ARE BASED ON PRIOR YEAR COLLECTIONS.

SO THOSE HIT OUR MARK PROJECTIONS AND THEN OUR AUTO LIEU OR OUR VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX, UH, DID WELL IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

OVERALL, OUR STATE SHARED REVENUES WERE ABOUT $530,000 OVER OUR PROJECTIONS.

UH, SO GOOD. UH, RESOURCES THERE ONE TIME, RESOURCES ON THE SALES TAX SIDE FOR THE STATE.

UM, THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THIS FISCAL YEAR WERE GOOD.

THE SECOND TWO MONTHS WERE NOT SO GOOD.

SO THERE'S A BALANCE THAT'S GOING ON AT THE STATE LEVEL.

AND WE'VE HEARD SOME UPDATES FROM JLBC, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CONCERNED THAT THEY WON'T MEET THEIR REVENUE PROJECTIONS, UH, AT THE STATE FOR SOME OF THEIR, THEIR REVENUES, UH, RETAIL SALES IS ONE OF THEIR BIGGER ONES.

UM, BUT REMEMBER, WE DON'T ALWAYS TAKE THEIR NUMBERS FOR GRANTED AND PUT THOSE IN OUR BUDGET, SO WE'RE WE DO, UH, BE A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN.

THAN WHAT? THEIR ESTIMATES. I THINK THEY REALLY PROJECT.

TO, UM.

TOO HIGH. AND WE'VE SEEN THAT IN THE PAST.

UM, OUR.

INCOME TAX.

UM, IS ONE THAT WE'RE WATCHING, AND I PUT SOME NOTES HERE ON, ON THIS SLIDE ABOUT OUR CONCERNS.

UH, THE STATE HAS BROUGHT THIS UP AND THEIR PRESENTATION.

UM. JLB C'S PRESENTATION.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND MY PAGE HERE.

OKAY. UM.

THIS IS ONE WE'RE GOING TO REALLY WATCH AND SEE HOW THIS IMPACTS OUR REVENUES.

THIS IS A SHARED REVENUE.

BUT AT THE STATE LEVEL, THEY HAVE SEEN, UH, MISSING PROJECTIONS THAT THEY HAD BY A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OVER THIS LAST YEAR.

UH, AND HOW THEY ENDED JUNE OF 2023 IS WHAT WE'LL SEE IN OUR STATE SHARED REVENUES FOR 2025.

SO NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

UM, KNOWING THAT AND SEEING HOW THEY CLOSE THE YEAR, UH, WE REALLY DO SEE THAT WE'LL HAVE ABOUT LESS THAN $1 MILLION LESS REVENUES FROM OUR STATE SHARED INCOME TAX NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE HOW IT REBOUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

WE'RE ALSO HEARING THINGS ABOUT WAGE GROWTH AND SUCH, WHICH I THINK WILL HELP THAT REBOUND OVER THE NEXT YEARS AFTER, UH, CURRENT YEAR AND SO FORTH.

BUT WE NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME TO, TO DIG THROUGH THAT DATA.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAUSE THIS WAS, UH, HOW THEY CHANGED THEIR WITHHOLDING RATES, UH, HOW PEOPLE CAN REDUCE HOW MUCH THEY WITHHOLD FROM THEIR TAX ON A PAYCHECK BASIS THAT REDUCES HOW MUCH THEY BRING IN ON A MONTHLY BASIS, UM, BASED ON WAGES.

SO, SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE INDICATORS, UM, THAT THEY SEE NOW WHETHER PEOPLE STILL PAY HIGHER TAXES OR WHAT HAVE YOU, IT'S STILL THAT SIDE TO SEE.

UH, WE'LL KNOW MORE IF WE COME THROUGH.

SO, YOU KNOW, IN HAVING STRONG GROWTH COMING OUT OF THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT.

WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME ECONOMISTS ABOUT JOB GROWTH AND INCOME GROWTH.

PERSONAL INCOME GROWTH, UH, THAT CAN HELP US WEATHER THROUGH THAT.

SO. WE'LL KNOW MORE IN FEBRUARY.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADJUST THAT.

BUT REMEMBER, WE HAVE SEVERAL REVENUES IN OUR GENERAL FUND TO BALANCE THROUGH.

THIS IS ONLY A PORTION OF WHAT WE HAVE.

SO WE'RE HOPING WE CAN BALANCE THIS WITH OTHER REVENUE GROWTH AND AND BE OKAY AS WE COME INTO FEBRUARY.

A COUPLE OTHER FUNDS. HIGHWAY USER FUND.

UM, THIS IS ONE THAT, UH, UH, WE DO WATCH.

WE DO HAVE THE CONCERN ABOUT THE GAS TAX AND ELECTRIC VEHICLES, AND IT IS A STATEWIDE ISSUE AND AN ISSUE WITH OUR FUNDS.

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UM, AS YOU'LL SEE ON THIS CHART, WE SEE OUR TRENDS.

UH, IT'S A MODERATE GROWTH YEAR OVER YEAR.

UH, OF COURSE, THE RECESSION YEAR, WE SAW IT KIND OF FLATTEN OUT AND THEN GROW AGAIN.

UH, BUT OUR YEAR END PROJECTIONS WERE SLIGHTLY ABOVE, UH, WHAT WE HAD IN APRIL AND OUR RETREAT AND WHAT WE ADOPTED, UH, BY ABOUT 100,000. SO WE ENDED WELL.

UH, AGAIN, WE BUILT A RECESSION KIND OF MODEL INTO THESE REVENUES.

HOPEFULLY THAT DOESN'T OCCUR, BUT WE PROJECTED A DECLINE IN REVENUES, UH, TO 9.2.

IF A RECESSION DOESN'T HIT, PEOPLE KEEP MOVING AROUND THE STATE.

UH, I THINK WE'LL STILL MANAGE A FLAT OR SMALL INCREASE HERE.

OUR PBB TAX.

UM, HERE IS A LITTLE MORE UP AND DOWN THAN THAN THE HIGHWAY.

USER ONE WAS.

UM, WE SEE GOOD GROWTH YEAR AFTER YEAR.

UH, WITH THE B-B-B TAXES.

IT'S THE YEARS OF RECESSION THAT WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE KIND OF CLAMP DOWN ON MAYBE THEIR TRAVEL, THEIR HOTEL STAYS AND MOVING AROUND.

AND THAT WAS QUITE AN IMPACT DURING COVID, UH, IN 2022 AND PART OF 2021 FISCAL YEARS.

UH, BUT THE REBOUND WAS INCREDIBLE.

UH, YOU KNOW, GOOD WORK FROM OUR TOURISM TEAM AND AND GETTING THE WORD OUT, GETTING PEOPLE KNOWING THAT WE'RE A SAFE COMMUNITY.

UH, OUR REBOUNDS HERE, OUR REBOUNDING REVENUES HERE WERE JUST, UH, ASTONISHING.

BUT IT ALSO SHOWS IT JUST REALLY BROUGHT IT BACK ALONG THE TREND LINE OF WHERE WE WERE HEADING, EXCLUDING THAT DIP.

SO, UH, GOOD WORK THERE.

OUR YEAR END PROJECTIONS DID EXCEED, UH, WHERE WE HAD, UH, YOU'RE ON ACTUALS, EXCEED OUR PROJECTIONS, UH, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS.

AND AGAIN, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT RECESSION PERIOD, WE COULD SEE THOSE CONTINUE TO MODERATELY GROW OR EVEN HIGHER.

SO, UH, GOOD NEWS WITH THOSE REVENUES.

UH, THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES ARE ABOUT RECESSION PLANNING, BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE A COUPLE NOTES ON ECONOMY.

UH, WHICH LEADS INTO THESE CONVERSATIONS.

UM, LAST SPRING, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A MILD RECESSION, POTENTIALLY.

UM, WE ARE PREPARING AND PLANNING BASED ON THAT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PREPARED FOR MATCHING THE REVENUES.

UH, BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT SEEING CONCERNS OF A RECESSION, UH, LIKE WE DID BACK IN LAST FEBRUARY AND APRIL.

UH, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS.

UH, WE'RE HEARING MIXED VIEWS ON RECESSIONS, UH, BETWEEN NO RECESSION OR VERY MILD.

UM, I THINK WE I'M ON THE SIDE OF NO RECESSION AND MEMBERS OF BUDGET TEAM ARE LIKE, YEAH, I DON'T WE DON'T SEE THIS HAPPENING.

WE'VE HEARD FROM NOW WE WANT THE ECONOMIC OUTLOOK.

AND THEY'RE LIKE, NO, REALLY DON'T SEE A RECESSION COMING.

UM, I RECENTLY I LOOKED THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA, ELLER COLLEGE OF MANAGEMENT AND THEIR PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION.

THEY ARE NOT LOOKING AT RECESSION.

UM, BUT THEY'RE SEEING US SETTING UP FOR A GOOD YEAR THE YEAR AFTER, MAYBE A LITTLE SLOWER THIS YEAR, BUT THE YEAR AFTER, THEY ARE SEEING GROWTH.

UH, SO I THINK THE ECONOMY IS LOOKING PRETTY GOOD.

UH, ON OUR BEHALVES.

UH, THERE'S SOME OF THOSE STATE SHARED REVENUES WE GOTTA GOTTA WATCH, ESPECIALLY THOSE INCOME TAXES.

UM, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

AND IN FEBRUARY, HOPE TO GIVE YOU A GOOD, GOOD UPDATE AND AND GOOD NEWS AT THAT TIME OF OF WHERE WE'RE WE'RE HEADING.

YES. VERY ENCOURAGING NEWS.

UM, AS YOU AND I KNOW WE'VE CHATTED ABOUT THIS AT THE BUDGET TEAM, BUT AS WE, UH, TALK ABOUT, UM, THE POSSIBILITIES OF RECESSION AND THINGS CERTAINLY HAVE IMPROVED NOW FROM EARLIER IN THE YEAR.

UM, ESPECIALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT, LIKE, GNP AND.

THAT'S THE SOURCE OF MY QUESTION.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN COMMENT.

YOU LOOK YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF INDICATORS AND YOU WALKED US THROUGH A FEW OF THOSE, UH, HOW MUCH WEIGHT DO WE GIVE TO, UM, GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT? GUATEMALAN CHURCH ON THAT ONE SPECIFIC.

I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT THERE, I THINK.

I THINK, UH, PART OF THE WE HAVE AN ECONOMY IS THE INFLATION OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

ONE OF OUR THINGS THAT IMPACTS MORE ON OUR EXPENDITURE SIDE, NOT NECESSARILY REVENUE SIDE.

UH, BUT THAT DOES, YOU KNOW, TIGHTEN UP OUR IT INCREASES OUR EXPENDITURES.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE SEE A LITTLE STRUGGLE IN SOME OF OUR FUNDS IN THE FLAGSTAFF.

UM, SO SEEING THE INFLATION KIND OF BRING DOWN, I LIKE SEEING THAT, UH, WE CAN'T MAINTAIN AT THOSE LEVELS DURING THAT.

UH, THE FEDS MAY ACTUALLY REDUCE INTEREST RATES NEXT YEAR WILL ALSO ADD TO OUR ECONOMY, LIKELY AS PEOPLE SEE LOWER COST OF FINANCING AND SO FORTH.

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UM. UM, SO THIS IS THE SESSION PLANS.

THIS IS JUST AN INFORMATIONAL THING.

UH, WE DON'T I CURRENTLY DON'T SEE US IMPLEMENTING THIS YEAR.

UH, I HOPE AND SEE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE NEED NEXT YEAR.

BUT THINGS HAPPEN, TIMES CHANGE.

AND THIS IS REALLY JUST AN OVERLAY OF OUR ADOPTED BUDGET AND THINGS WE CAN DO SHOULD EVENTS HAPPEN, UH, THAT CAUSE US TO GO INTO RECESSION OR LOSS OF REVENUES.

SO IT'S GOOD TO KEEP THIS IN MIND.

WE HAVE THIS IN OUR BACK POCKET SO WE CAN PROJECT OUR REVENUES CONFIDENTLY, BUT HAVE SOMETHING READY, UH, FOR THOSE EVENTS.

UH, REALLY, THIS IS IS MORE FOCUSED RECESSION PLANS, MORE FOCUSED ON THE OPERATION COSTS, THOSE ONGOING RESOURCES AND, AND MANAGING THOSE DURING RECESSION, UH, VERSUS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, WHICH THOSE YOU CAN ADJUST OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, BUT YOU STILL WANT TO CONTINUE TO DELIVER CAPITAL PROJECTS IN, IN OUR LOCAL BUSINESS, OUR LOCAL ECONOMY, BECAUSE IT DOES HELP, UH, MAINTAIN OUR FISCAL HEALTH, UH, KEEPING PEOPLE EMPLOYED.

SO YOU ALWAYS WANT TO KEEP THOSE CIP AND THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS GOING.

UM, SO IT'S IT'S KIND OF A MIX OF TRYING TO MAINTAIN YOUR LEVEL OF SERVICES WHILE REDUCING MAYBE SOME OF YOUR OPERATING EXPENSES.

UH, AND HOW YOU INVEST YOUR DOLLARS DURING THESE TIMES ARE IMPORTANT TO, LIKE I SAID, INVESTING IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT WE HAVE THE CASH.

WE LET'S KEEP THESE GOING AS WELL AS, UH, PROMOTING OUR CITY AS A PLACE TO BE OUR TOURISM, UH, MAYBE ADDING MORE MONIES TO THAT AND BRINGING IN PEOPLE TO OUR ECONOMY IS ALWAYS A POSITIVE WAY, UH, TO SPEND MONEY DURING A RECESSIONARY PERIOD.

SO, UH, THIS IS JUST A REMINDER.

UM, WE HAVE THIS CHART, UH, WE'VE USED BEFORE.

YOU'VE SEEN IT A COUPLE TIMES, AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE STAGES WE GO THROUGH, UH, IN OUR ECONOMIC, UH, RECESSION PLAN, UH, STARTING FROM OUR MINOR, WHICH IS JUST KIND OF MAYBE KEEPING SOME JOB OPENINGS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF ALL THE WAY TO A CRISIS.

UH, WE COME TO YOU ONCE WE GET TO THAT SIGNIFICANT LEVEL, UH, WHEN WE REALLY SEE A SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN OUR RESOURCES, WE'LL COME TO COUNCIL, WE'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT, AND WE'LL ASK YOU TO MOVE TO THAT LEVEL.

AND THEN GETTING OUT OF THAT IS ALSO A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL.

BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE BULLETS TODAY.

AND THAT ENDS MY PRESENTATION.

UM ANY QUESTIONS.

OR NONE. QUESTIONS? EXCEPT FOR YOU. YEAH.

I ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

AND IN PART IT'S THE QUESTIONS ARE AND ALSO IN PART THEY'RE INTENDED TO LIKE.

TALKED A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION.

ALRIGHT. UM.

I SAW IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS RECESSION PLAN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND I'M WONDERING, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THIS COUNCIL, UH, IT WOULD BE INSTRUCTIVE TO KNOW HOW IT WORKED AND HOW FAR INTO IT WE WENT. I KNOW IT WAS A SHORT LIVED THING, BUT IT WAS RIGHT.

SO, UH.

THAT'S GREAT. UH, TEAM FLAGSTAFF REALLY STEPPED UP WHEN WE WHEN THIS RECESSION PLAN WENT INTO EFFECT AND WE, WE STARTED WITH THE, THE MINOR, UH, LEVEL, UH, AND. BUT IT WAS MARCH, APRIL OF 2020.

UH, THE TEAM STEPPED UP.

THEY CURBED EXPENSES.

WE HELD SOME POSITIONS OPEN.

UH, AND IN THAT THAT SHORT PERIOD FROM APRIL TO JUNE, I THINK WE SAVED OVER $3 MILLION OF RESOURCES.

UH, WHICH REALLY HELPS US POSITION, UH, OUR FUNDS AND MAINTAIN WITHIN THE REVENUES.

THIS CONTINUED. WE CONTINUED IN THIS LEVEL.

WE ACTUALLY MOVED UP TO SIGNIFICANT AND TALK TO COUNCIL AROUND, I THINK THE JUNE TIME FRAME.

UH, BECAUSE WE DID SEE THOSE DECLINES.

AND, UH, SO WE WENT THROUGH WE ADOPTED A REGULAR BUDGET, BUT WE HAD THIS LAYER THAT WE IMPLEMENTED, UH, OR UM, WE STARTED THIS IN JUNE, I BELIEVE. SO AGAIN, TEAM FLAGSTAFF STEPPED UP.

THERE WERE SOME SOME DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS.

THEY'LL TRY TO MAINTAIN THE CRITICAL SERVICES, PUBLIC SAFETY AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT MORE CURBING EXPENDITURES.

AND AGAIN, TEAM FLAGSTAFF, YOU KNOW, THE DIVISIONS AND THE CITY UNDERSTOOD THAT.

AND THEY REALLY DID CURB, UH, WHERE WE WERE SPENDING MONIES, MAINTAINING CAPITAL PROJECTS WAS CRITICAL.

WE KEPT GOING THERE, TOURISM ACTIVITY.

WE KEPT DOING THAT WITH THEY THEY BENEFITED.

UM, AND WE CAME OUT, I THINK, IN, IN JANUARY OF THE FOLLOWING YEAR, UH, BECAUSE WE DID SEE, UH, REVENUES STARTING TO BUILD UP.

UH, IT WAS A QUICK RECESSION, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ONE OF THESE, UH, CHECK MARK KIND OF THINGS.

SO WE DID HAVE VALUE FROM THAT, BUT WE WERE READY AND PREPARED.

YEAH. OKAY. IN THE YEAR WHEN THIS STARTED AND IT STARTED IN.

MARCH IS WHEN COVID SHUT US DOWN 2020 2020.

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UM, SO IT WAS FISCAL YEAR 2020 PLUS PART OF FISCAL YEAR 2021.

WE STILL CATCHING UP? UM, IN TERMS OF HIRING.

OH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT, I BELIEVE.

UM. PLEASE, MARK, TO GET PERMISSION TO BUILD.

UM, WE'RE READY TO HIRE THEM.

YEAH, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF FILLING THEM, BUT WE'RE STILL DOWN IN TERMS OF WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE EMPLOYEE WISE.

BECAUSE OF VACANCIES.

WE'VE BEEN GROWING OUR AVAILABLE STAFFING.

WE'VE HAD THE RESOURCE TO IT.

BUT YEAH, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF RECRUITING AND FILLING THOSE.

AND THIS PROBABLY TIES INTO THAT.

BUT I THINK YOU SHARED WITH THIS WITH US THIS BEFORE, BUT I JUST DON'T REMEMBER.

UM, THE UPCOMING USE.

WHAT'S THE IMPACT TO THE CITY'S BUDGET TO THAT? I KNOW IN OTHER AGENCIES THAT I'M ON THE BOARD WITH.

IT'S SMALL AGENCY WAS GOING TO BE LIKE OVER $100,000.

SO IS THAT IMPACTING US AS MUCH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH COMPRESSION OR.

YOU HAVE TO PHONE A FRIEND ON SOME OF THESE NUMBERS.

BUT, UM, WHEN WE BUILT THE THE BUDGET FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, UM, WE BASED IT ON WHAT WE SAW COMING UP AND WHAT THE TRENDS WERE FOR CIP. AND AND WE ACTUALLY WENT.

AGGRESSIVELY TO INCREASE OUR ENTRY LEVEL PAY IN OUR PAY PLANS, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER WE WENT TO.

YOU WENT TO $18, WHICH IS TODAY IS HIGHER THAN WHAT TODAY'S MINIMUM WAGE IS EVEN WITH THE JANUARY IMPLEMENTATION.

SO WE'RE ABOVE.

WE'LL LOOK AT THIS ALSO AS WE GO INTO NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN STAYING ABOVE, UH, FOR THE CITY.

I CANNOT REMEMBER THE COST OF DOING THAT.

I DON'T HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

UH, BUT IF YOU WANT THAT, WE COULD LOOK AT THE THE LAST RETREATS AND GET THAT JUST BROUGHT BACK TO MY CURRENT MEMORY.

WHEN SAM MENTIONED ON TUESDAY THAT WE'RE AT ABOUT A 50% VACANCY AND OUR, UM, ROADS, STREETS, UH, STAFF WERE SNOW PLOW AND STUFF, BECAUSE WASH DISHES FOR $20 AN HOUR VERSUS, YOU KNOW, 2 A.M., 18 DEGREE PROPER. YOU KNOW, I PICKED WASHING DISHES, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A THAT'S A CHALLENGE.

YEAH. SO, YEAH.

UM, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT MINIMUM WAGE.

IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO GET THE COMPETITIVE WAGE AGAINST WHAT OTHER EMPLOYERS ARE GIVING.

IT'S IT'S TRYING TO COMPETE AND BE IN THE MARKET.

YEAH. MORE THAN JUST MINIMUM WAGE.

EXACTLY. YEAH. AND WE'LL WE'LL TALK I THINK WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

YEAH. IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

AND TYING THE TWO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS TOGETHER, YOURS AND THE MAYOR'S I MEAN IT PROBABLY WILL BE TOUCHED UPON IN OUR, UH, RECRUITMENT DISCUSSION, BUT SPECIFIC TO YOUR COMMENT, UM, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WHEN WE MADE A BIG ADJUSTMENT FOR THE MINIMUM WAGE, I THINK WE ELIMINATED LIKE 2 OR 3 PAY CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WERE ALL OF A SUDDEN, UH, NO LONGER APPLICABLE.

THEY WERE BELOW THE WAGE.

THAT IS THE COMPRESSION YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, BECAUSE THEN EVERYTHING WAS COMPRESSED IN THE NEXT CATEGORY.

SO WE HAD TO MAKE WHAT I WOULD CALL A RIPPLE EFFECT.

UH, ADJUSTMENTS GOING UP THE PAY SCALE.

I DON'T PARDON ME, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.

I DO KNOW THAT THEY WERE SIGNIFICANT.

AND WE CHATTED ABOUT IT WITH COUNCIL AT THE TIME, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST TANGIBLE EFFECT OF OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN THROUGH THOSE MINIMUM WAGE ADJUSTMENTS.

WAS FIRST ON COUNCIL.

DID NOT HAVE A RECESSION PLAN.

UH, MR. CLIFTON BROUGHT THAT IN HIS TEAM, OF COURSE.

GREG, I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU FOR DOING THAT.

AND IT TURNED OUT WE NEEDED IT, LIKE WITHIN A YEAR.

SO ANYWAY, UH, YOUR FORESIGHT IS REALLY APPRECIATED.

WELL, THANK YOU. YOU COMPLIMENTED ME THIS, UH, ON THIS LAST YEAR.

AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE TO COMPLIMENT ME IN THE FUTURE.

TO BE OKAY WITH THAT.

UM, BUT TO BE FAIR, UH, THE RECESSION PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, UH, LOOKS A LOT LIKE, UH, WHAT WE DID IN ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY, AND AND IT'S FIELD TESTED.

THIS RECESSION PLAN WAS UTILIZED.

IT'S NOT IDENTICAL.

OF COURSE, THIS IS VERY MUCH A FLAGSTAFF PLAN.

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UNFORTUNATELY, THERE, YOU KNOW, MANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES WOULD HAVE SEEN MAJOR OR EVEN CRISIS LEVELS, UH, BECAUSE THE GREAT RECESSION HAD THAT MUCH OF A BITE.

UH, IT'S A GOOD PLAN.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

SO WHEN YOU'RE PREPARING THE BUDGET IN THE, UH, AGENDA FOR NEXT YEAR, COULD YOU PUT AN ITEM ON THERE WHERE JIM MCCARTHY COUNCILWOMAN.

YEAH, WE DO A LOT.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU RICK. THANK YOU HEIDI, AND THANK YOU RICK.

OH, HOW HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING SO FAR? BECAUSE WE HAD ORIGINALLY, UH, SCHEDULED IN A BREAK RIGHT ABOUT NOW.

IS EVERYBODY DOING OKAY? YOU NEED LIKE A MINUTE TO STAND UP AND STRETCH AND, YOU KNOW, DO ANY OF THAT STUFF.

YES, THE HOKEY POKEY.

SO IF YOU NEED SERIOUSLY EVERYONE, INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF PUTTING A BREAK IN RIGHT NOW, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO JUST KIND OF EVERYONE STAND UP, GET A GOOD STRETCH.

BECAUSE I KNOW COUNCIL WAS UP REALLY LATE ON TUESDAY, RIGHT? PRETTY. SO MAY PERHAPS YOU GUYS NEED A LITTLE MOMENT, LIKE TAKE A COUPLE OF DEEP BREATHS AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL WE'LL KEEP GOING WITH THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU GUYS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE 90S HERE JUST TO KIND OF STAND UP AND STRETCH OR WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO.

I GOT TO STAND UP SO I KNOW I NEEDED TO STRETCH, SO THAT'S WHY I'M GIVING YOU A CHANCE.

YOU SEE. HE.

ALL RIGHT. VERY, VERY GOOD.

WHILE YOU GUYS ARE STRETCHING.

UH, WE'LL HAVE A PLACE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS OR WE'RE MOVING ALONG PRETTY WELL.

SO EVERY MINUTE THAT WE SAVE, WE'LL HAVE WE'LL ADD TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AREA, WHICH WE'LL DO PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT BEFORE LUNCH.

SO. I THINK EVERYONE TO.

QUICK, QUICKLY, QUICKLY MOVE BACK TO YOUR SEAT.

BECAUSE REMEMBER THAT STRETCH WAS INSTEAD OF A FULL 15 MINUTE BREAK.

SO KIND OF STAY ON TASK HERE IF WE COULD.

IT'S AMAZING WHEN YOU ASK PEOPLE TO STAND UP AND STRETCH LIKE NOBODY GETS UP AT FIRST, OF COURSE.

MCCARTHY, HE WENT THROUGH LIKE A FULL STRETCH, FULL ON LEG, SHOOK SOME STUFF OUT.

SO EVERYBODY FEELING OKAY? ALL RIGHT. LET'S LET'S MOVE ON.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR PRIORITY BASED BUDGET.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE WITH CHRIS ROADY.

THERE WE GO. LET'S HEAR.

RIGHT. OKAY.

EXCELLENT. MORNING.

UH, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.

MANAGEMENT. ANALYST.

UH, AFFAIRS.

UM, UH, FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS OR SO, I'VE KIND OF BEEN THE PERSON, UH, UH, SPEARHEADING THE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING PROGRAM.

AND MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS SAME PRESENTATION A COUPLE TIMES FROM ME NOW.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A REFRESHER OF WHAT PBB IS AND HOW WE'RE USING IT TO, UM, UNDERSTAND AND DIRECT CITY FUNDS.

UM, I'M BUDGETED FOR HALF AN HOUR.

I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO GO THAT LONG, BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE AT THE END.

THERE ARE SOME UPDATES THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE'VE GONE THROUGH A NEW PROCESS OVER THE LAST YEAR OF UPDATING OUR SYSTEM A LITTLE BIT.

SO, UM. FIRST, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING IS.

UM, IT WAS IT WAS PUT INTO PLACE, UM, RIGHT BEFORE THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC HIT.

AND, UH, IT WAS IT WAS DONE.

SO WITH THREE INITIAL GOALS.

UM, FIRST ONE IS TO HELP US MAKE DECISIONS ON HOW TO SPEND CITY FUNDS.

SO TO USE DATA, UH, OBJECTIVE METRICS THAT WE CAN USE TO GUIDE WHERE WE, WHERE WE ALLOCATE CITY FUNDS TO.

SECOND ONE IS IT ALLOWS US TO EXPLAIN WHERE THOSE FUNDS GO IN A WAY THAT THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER, WHICH CREATES A LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY AND ENGAGES

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THE THIRD ONE IS THAT IT'S ABLE IT ALLOWS US TO ALIGN OUR BUDGET WITH THE PRIORITIES OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO BY EXPLAINING IT WELL TO THE COMMUNITY AND GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK, UH, TO BUILD THE WHOLE SYSTEM, OUR FUNDS ARE MORE ARE MORE EASILY ALLOCATED TOWARDS THE AREAS THAT ARE PRIORITIES FOR, UM, FOR THE CITIZENS.

AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO USE THESE WORDS CORRECTLY HERE BECAUSE THERE'S PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES HAVE A SPECIFIC MEANINGS IN PBB.

SO WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BROAD TOPIC I'M GOING TO USE THE WORD GOALS JUST BECAUSE THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ANYWHERE IN PBB LANGUAGE.

SO JUST TO AVOID ANY CONFUSION WITH THE SPECIFIC MEANINGS, PRIORITIES AND PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES MEAN IN PBB.

ESSENTIALLY THE WAY CFPB WORKS IS THAT EVERYTHING THE CITY DOES, WHETHER IT'S A SERVICE WE PROVIDE, UM, OR A PROGRAM WE OFFER TO THE PUBLIC THAT BECOMES PROGRAMED IN PBB.

UM, SO STREET REPAIR IS A PROGRAM.

UH, AIRPORT FIREFIGHTING IS A PROGRAM.

OUR NEW CARES UNIT IS A PROGRAM.

UM, IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY OF THINKING ABOUT IT COMPARED TO TRADITIONAL LINE ITEM BUDGETING, WHERE YOU MIGHT SAY, OH, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS SPENDING X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS ON SALARIES FOR ITS ITS EMPLOYEES OR OFFICE SUPPLIES OR WHATEVER.

THAT DOESN'T REALLY TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT MONEY.

SO INSTEAD, WE LOOK AT IT FROM WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING AND WHAT ARE WE PROVIDING TO THE PUBLIC WITH THAT MONEY? SO THAT'S KIND OF JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF ORGANIZING THINGS.

UM, THEN ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL PBB PROGRAMS AND WE HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED OF THEM, I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S LIKE 4 OR 500 PROGRAMS ALONG THAT LINES HAVE BEEN DIGGING DEEP INTO THOSE THE LAST FEW WEEKS.

UM, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE IS SCORED AGAINST OUR PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES, WHICH ARE THE SPECIFIC TERMS WE USE FOR THE SEVEN OVERARCHING PRIORITIES OF THE CITY. UM, SO BROAD TOPICS AND THE SIX OR SO OBJECTIVES THAT FALL INTO EACH OF THOSE, UM, PRIORITIES, WHICH ARE THE SPECIFIC WAYS YOU CAN MEET THOSE.

THIS ALLOWS US TO TELL WHICH PROGRAMS ARE SERVING MORE, ARE FORWARDING OR ADVANCING MORE OF THOSE PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES VERSUS OTHER ONES.

AND WHICH ONES, UM, ARE ARE HITTING THEM, UH, MORE DIRECTLY, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE, UH, SOME PROGRAMS WILL TOUCH ON THINGS A LITTLE BIT BUT WON'T BE REALLY, REALLY ADVANCING THEM SO WE CAN SCORE THEM AND SEE WHICH ONES THEY'RE HITTING AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE HITTING.

UM. AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T.

WE DO NOT USE GRANTS OR CAPITAL IN THIS SYSTEM.

SO ALL OF THE CAPITAL WORK YOU SEE WITH STREET REPAIR AND THAT KIND OF THING, OR THE LARGER THE SPRUCE WASH PROJECT, THOSE ARE NOT IN PBB.

UM, AND THE THE OBJECTIVES THEMSELVES WERE CREATED THROUGH A PROCESS THAT INVOLVED YOU ALL AND THE PUBLIC.

UM, WE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH IT AGAIN THIS SUMMER.

AND I'LL EXPLAIN ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

UM, HERE IN A MINUTE.

UH, HERE IS OUR TIMELINE OF HOW WE STARTED.

WE BEGAN IN SUMMER OF 2019.

THAT'S WHEN WE BEGAN THIS JOURNEY.

UM, WE TALKED WE CAME TO COUNCIL IN FALL OF THAT YEAR TO GET AN INITIAL SCENT, UH, OF PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES.

UH, THEN WE HAD SCHEDULED TO DO OUR INITIAL OUTREACH IN SUMMER OF 2020, AND BOY, THAT WAS A ROUGH TIME TO HAVE DONE THAT.

UM, LUCKILY WE WERE ABLE TO GO THROUGH IT AGAIN THIS YEAR, BUT OUR FIRST SET OF PRIORITIES, PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES JUST DID NOT HAVE THE LEVEL OF PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT WE HAD HOPED BECAUSE OF THE TIMING.

UM, IT WAS JUST NOTHING WE COULD DO AT THAT TIME.

IT WAS MORE THAN WE DID.

UM, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE INITIAL SET OF PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES IN NOVEMBER OF 2020.

WE'VE BEEN USING THOSE UP UNTIL NOW.

UM, AND THIS YEAR, WE CAME TO YOU IN JUNE WITH A PLAN TO REFRESH THOSE.

WE WENT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE DECIDED TO KEEP THE INITIAL SEVEN PRIORITIES.

WE MADE A FEW CHANGES TO SOME GRAMMAR BECAUSE WE DISCOVERED THAT SOME OF THEM USED COMMAS, SOME USED, AND SO WE JUST PUT ALL THOSE THE SAME SO THAT THEY WERE GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT, BUT DIDN'T CHANGE ANY SUBSTANCE TO THEM.

AND THEN WE WENT TO THE PUBLIC AND ASKED THEM WHAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM, WHAT WERE THEIR WHAT OBJECTIVES DID THEY WANT TO SEE UNDERNEATH THOSE, UH, PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES? AND THEY GAVE US A LOT OF FEEDBACK.

WE MADE CHANGES ALL THROUGHOUT THE TABLE OF PRIORITIES AND OF OBJECTIVES.

ALL ALL SEVEN PRIORITIES AND MOST, MOST OBJECTIVES SAW SOME KIND OF A CHANGE, WHETHER IT WAS A TECHNICAL CORRECTION OR A SMALL CHANGE THAT HAD A BIG EFFECT, TO INCLUDE NEW PROGRAMS OR NEW INITIATIVES IN THE CITY.

UH, THEN JUST, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT AGO.

UH, YOU ALL, UM, APPROVED THOSE.

I WAS THINKING I SAW FALL, AND I WAS LIKE, IT'S NOT WINTER ALREADY.

IT IS ALREADY WINTER. UM, SO.

YES, COUNCILWOMAN HARRIS, AND I'M NOT ASKING US TO GO BACK AND AND REDO THIS.

I'M JUST ASKING US TO THINK ABOUT THIS.

UM, AS WE KNOW, SOME FOLKS ARE MORE INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT THAN OTHERS, BUT WE KNOW THAT ALL OF US LIVE HERE IN THE CITY,

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SO WE HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT OF A WIDE SPECTRUM OF OUR POPULATION? WE REALLY CAST A BROAD NET, UH, WITH OUR OUTREACH THIS YEAR.

AND WE WE HAD, UH, A SURVEY THAT WAS ACCESSIBLE ONLINE IN TWO DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.

UM, THAT ALLOWED PEOPLE TO GIVE FEEDBACK WHERE THEY WANTED TO AND ONLY WHERE THEY WANTED TO, BECAUSE ASKING FOR FEEDBACK AND EVERYTHING WAS OVERLY CUMBERSOME.

WE SAW A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THAT.

WE SAW ALMOST 100 SUBMISSIONS.

UM, AND MOST OF THOSE DID TOUCH ON A LOT OF ASPECTS OF THE PROGRAM.

WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS WHERE PEOPLE COULD THREE REALLY.

WE TAGGED ALONG WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ON ONE AS WELL.

SO THEIR EVENT. BUT WE ALSO THERE, UH, THAT ALLOWED PEOPLE TO COME TO US AND TELL US EXACTLY WHAT WHAT THEY WANTED.

AND THEN WE WERE AROUND THE COMMUNITY AT OTHER PASSIVE EVENTS THAT WERE ALREADY SCHEDULED.

WE WERE AT, UM, UH, THE CONCERTS IN THE PARK, I THINK WAS A HUGE SUCCESS.

WE HAD A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT, ESPECIALLY FROM THE YOUTH AT THOSE ONCE THEY CAME UP, WE WERE ABLE TO TELL US WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT IN OUR CITY.

WE TALKED TO THE PARENTS, UH, WE WERE AT FARMERS MARKETS.

WE WERE AT WE WERE AT THE MALL.

WE WERE AT THE, UH, J LIVELY, UM, AS WELL.

WE WERE ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, AT THE END OF IT, WE DID WE WE DECIDED NOT TO COLLECT DEMOGRAPHIC DATA ON THIS, WHICH WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT, BUT WE DECIDED THAT THAT WOULD BE FOR SOME PEOPLE, IT WOULD BE A BARRIER NOT TO GIVE US THEIR FEEDBACK, AND INSTEAD WE DECIDED THAT WE COULD GO THROUGH AND LOOK FOR THE DIVERSITY OF OPINIONS IN THERE AND PICK OUT WHICH ONES WE THOUGHT WERE THE MOST WORKABLE.

AND THERE WAS THE MOST CONSENSUS AMONGST THE COMMUNITY.

SO JUST BECAUSE ONE PERSON HAD AN IDEA DOESN'T MEAN IT GOT INCORPORATED.

BUT WHEN WE SAW THINGS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, THAT WAS A GOOD INDICATION THAT IT WAS IT WAS IT WAS TIME FOR US TO INCLUDE THAT.

AND WHEN WE HAD SEEN THOSE AT DIFFERENT KINDS OF EVENTS AND THROUGH DIFFERENT MEDIUMS, THOSE ARE ONES THAT WE GOT HIGHER PRIORITIES THAT WE, THAT WE TOOK.

UM, WE KIND OF GAVE A BIT MORE WEIGHT TO AS WE INCORPORATED THOSE, UH, WE FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHIC DIVERSITY IN I WOULD OUTREACH, I WOULD SAY. SO UM, WE WERE NOT SURE HOW IT WOULD GO.

WE WE ACTUALLY ADDED THE J LIVELY EVENT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO WE WERE CONCERNED WE WEREN'T GONNA HAVE ENOUGH OUTREACH TO THE YOUTH IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEN THE MUSIC IN THE PARKS.

THE CONCERT AT THE PARK SERIES ENDED UP DOING A LOT MORE THAN WE EXPECTED, AND ACTUALLY, OUR J LIVELY EVENT ENDED UP BEING, UM, KIND OF CUT SHORT.

THERE WAS ACTUALLY A BAND AND FOLKS ENDED UP FILTERING OUT BECAUSE OF THAT.

IT WAS KIND OF UNFORTUNATE, BUT MADE UP FOR IT WITH THE OUTREACH WE HAD AT THE CONCERTS IN THE PARK, AND WE WERE IN DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE COMMUNITY, SO PEOPLE THAT WERE AT ONE ON THE EAST SIDE WERE ABLE TO TALK TO US.

ONES ON THE WEST SIDE WERE ABLE TO TALK TO US.

WE WENT TO UM, UH, A VARIETY OF INCOME LEVELS.

WE I THINK WE DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF APPROACHING THE BREADTH OF THE CITY.

AND I CAN'T PROMISE THAT EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN INTERESTED GOT THEIR FEEDBACK THROUGH.

I DON'T THINK THAT'LL EVER BE THE CASE IN OUTREACH, BUT AS IT WAS CONCLUDING, I FELT VERY GOOD ABOUT IT.

THAT'S WHAT I CAN REPORT TO YOU.

THANK YOU. WILL YOU NOT BE A TIMING FOR THIS QUESTION? BUT, UM, YOU MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING THAT, UM, OBVIOUSLY GRANTS THAT CAPITAL WERE NOT SCORED, THAT ARE NOT SCORED IN THE PBB.

RIGHT? CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IF I'M USING, IF I'M THAT SAME FIRM, THAT DOES KIND OF ADVANCE SOME OF OUR PRIORITIES. IT DOES.

YEAH. UM, IT'S IT'S UM, AND THERE ARE SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS.

OUR CAPITAL BUDGET IS NOT IN THERE.

SO, SO IF IT COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND OR AN ENTERPRISE FUND, THOSE KIND OF THINGS, IT'S INCLUDED.

BUT THE ONES THAT ARE THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL OUTLAY THAT ARE BIG PROJECTS THAT HAPPEN ONCE, THOSE ONES ARE NOT.

SO LIKE LONE TREE OVERPASS WOULD NOT BE IN THIS SPRUCE WASH WOULD NOT BE IN THIS.

BUT CHIP SEALING ISN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, UM, SO YEAH.

SO THAT'S THE DISTINCTION.

WE WANT TO GET THERE WITH IT.

UM, AS WE ADVANCE AND CONTINUE TO USE THIS TOOL, WE HOPE TO USE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET.

ALL RIGHT. AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, JUST, UM, IT'S NOVEMBER NOW.

SO NOVEMBER, UH, LAST MONTH YOU, YOU APPROVED THE NEW PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES, AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE NOW BEING USED.

UH, WE JUST ARE REDOING THAT PROCESS HERE IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, AND THEY'LL BE USED FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS UNTIL WE DECIDE TO DO THIS PROCESS AGAIN IN PROBABLY 3 OR 4 YEARS.

UM, HERE ARE THE THE THE THE KEY COMMUNITY PRIORITIES.

WE UPDATED OUR GRAPHIC A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

SO THE COLORS ARE A LITTLE MORE BOLD, MAYBE ALIGNED JUST A LITTLE MORE INTUITIVELY WITH, WITH UM, UH, WITH THE INDIVIDUAL TOPICS.

AGAIN, THERE'S NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES HERE, BUT WE JUST MADE THE WORDING CONSISTENT.

SO UM, IT FOR EXAMPLE, SUSTAINABLE AND INNOVATIVE INFRASTRUCTURE USED TO BE SUSTAINABLE COMMA INNOVATIVE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHILE WE HAD SAFE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY UM, AND INCLUSIVE, WE HAD AN EXTRA AN AMPERSAND IN ONE AND AN END.

SO WE JUST MADE THAT ALL CONSISTENT.

SO IT MADE SENSE ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT NO CHANGES WERE MADE SUBSTANTIAL TO THOSE.

THEY'RE ALL THE SAME THING. UM, WE ALSO HAVE OUR OUR OUR NEW OBJECTIVES.

THIS MAY BE HARD TO KIND OF A HARD SLIDE TO READ, AND I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO READ ALL.

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IF YOU WANT US TO GET UP HERE AND READ THEM ONE BY ONE, WE CAN DO THAT TOO.

UM, BUT WE WE WE UPDATED WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE OUR GRAPHIC A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

SO WE DID A FEW SMALL THINGS.

THIS IS A PUBLIC FACING UH UM DOCUMENT AS WELL.

SO WE SEPARATED IT KIND OF A SMALL, BUT WE PUT A LITTLE LINE TO SEPARATE HIGH PERFORMING GOVERNANCE FROM THE OTHER SIX, BECAUSE THAT ONE IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY, THAT LOOKS AT GOVERNMENT AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE MEANT TO SUSTAIN AND SERVE OUR ORGANIZATION INTERNALLY RATHER THAN THE COMMUNITY EXTERNALLY.

SO WE KIND OF SEPARATED THAT ONE FROM THE OTHER SIX, AND THEN PUT A LITTLE BANNER AT THE TOP THAT SHOWS THAT THE OTHER, THE SIX ON THE RIGHT, ARE YOUR COMMUNITY PROGRAMS, THAT ALL THE THINGS THE PUBLIC INTERACTS WITH WILL WILL FALL IN THAT.

RIGHT. SIX COLUMNS AND THEN THE, THE FINANCE AND THE IT AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF WILL FALL IN THE SINGLE COLUMN ON THE LEFT.

SO WE JUST TRIED TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE INTUITIVE WITHOUT MAKING IT TOO BUSY.

AND UM, WITH AN AREA THAT WE HAD A CHANCE JUST TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT CLEARER, UM, THAT MAY BE HELPFUL.

PETER. EXCITING THING THIS YEAR IS WE ADDED A THIRD PAGE TO THIS.

WE ADDED A DEFINITION SECTION AND I THINK THIS WAS A HUGE BENEFIT.

THERE WERE A LOT OF.

TERMS IN OUR OBJECTIVES THAT EITHER FOLKS DIDN'T KNOW THEM, OR THEY COULD MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS IN DIFFERENT CONTEXTS.

SO WE TOOK, I THINK IT'S A DOZEN OF THEM OR SO, UM, THAT THE COMMUNITY GAVE US FEEDBACK ON THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANT, OR WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS? OR DOES THIS MEAN THIS OR THIS? AND WE DECIDED WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DEFINE THAT FOR YOU.

SO WE'RE INTERNALLY WE'RE ALL READING FROM THE SAME BOOK.

WE KNOW WHAT EACH TERMS MEANS AND THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE USE SOME OF THESE TERMS. UM, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

I'VE FOUND AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND DOING OUR SCORING RIGHT NOW, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A SECOND.

UM. OUR ANNUAL PROCESS.

WE GO THROUGH THIS EVERY YEAR.

UM, WE WE BEGIN IT IN THE FALL.

WE GET THROUGH THE SPRING AND WE HIT THE REFRESH BUTTON AND WE DO IT AGAIN.

UH, IT BEGINS WITH EVERY DIVISION IN THE CITY HAS TO REVIEW ITS PROGRAM INVENTORIES.

WE ASK THEM TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE PROGRAMS THAT LIE IN THEIR IN THEIR SECTION OR DIVISION OR DEPARTMENT, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, AND SAY, IS THIS STILL WHAT YOU WERE DOING? IS THERE ANY ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING TO THE COMMUNITY OR INTERNALLY TO THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN YOUR EXISTING PROGRAMS? IF THAT'S SO, ADD A NEW PROGRAM OR MODIFY YOUR EXISTING ONES TO INCORPORATE IT.

IS THERE ANYTHING HERE THAT YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYMORE? IF SO, LET'S GET RID OF THAT.

IS THERE ANYTHING, ANYTHING HERE THAT JUST DOESN'T ADEQUATELY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU'RE DOING? IF SO, PLEASE UPDATE YOUR DESCRIPTION FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR, UH, FOR OUR TEAMS INTERNALLY SO WE KNOW WHAT WE KNOW AT ALL TIMES OR EVERY YEAR.

WE KNOW ACCURATELY WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHERE THINGS LIE.

UM, I MENTIONED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR GOVERNANCE AND COMMUNITY PROGRAMS, GOVERNANCE, INWARD FACING, COMMUNITY, OUTWARD FACING.

UM, IF WE GO THROUGH AND WE ALLOCATE COSTS, WE WE TAKE THE BASE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN THE SUMMER.

AND WE, UH, WE ASKED THEM TO ALLOCATE THOSE TO THEIR PROGRAMS, UM, AND SAY, OKAY, HOW MUCH ARE THIS PERSON'S THIS STAFF MEMBER, HOW MUCH OF THEIR TIME IS SPENT ON THIS PROGRAM VERSUS THIS PROGRAM VERSUS THIS PROGRAM? SO WE KNOW THAT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE, UH, EVERY INDIVIDUAL IN THE CITY, WE KNOW HOW MUCH APPROXIMATELY THEIR TIME IS SPENT IN EACH PROGRAM, AND WE KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY DIRECTLY IS GOING TO EACH PROGRAM.

AGAIN, GETTING AWAY FROM THE IDEA OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT SPENT $500 ON PENS TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, SPENT X AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THEIR YOUTH PROGRAMS. UM, EVERY YEAR WE GO THROUGH A SMALL SCORING PROCESS.

THIS YEAR IT'S QUITE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE WE REDID ALL OF OUR PERIODS AND OBJECTIVES METRICS.

OUR RUBRIC IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THIS YEAR.

SO WE WENT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE FINISHING UP THIS WEEK AND EARLY NEXT WEEK SCORING EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM THE CITY DOES.

WE HAVE PEER REVIEW GROUPS, UH, THAT ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW.

UH, DIVISIONS HAD TO SCORE THEMSELVES AND SAY HOW WELL THEY THINK THEIR PROGRAMS ALIGN WITH EACH OF THESE.

AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH A PEER REVIEW PROCESS RIGHT NOW WHERE, UM, WE HAVE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS FROM ALL ACROSS THE CITY THAT ARE INVOLVED IN EACH IN EACH, UH, EACH OBJECTIVE. AND WE HAVE, UH, OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR EXTENDED LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT ARE HELPING OUT AS PEER REVIEWERS.

UH, I THINK WE'RE WE'RE GETTING ALONG THE WAY THERE.

I HAVEN'T SEEN AN UPDATE ON EXACTLY HOW FAR WE ARE.

I KNOW THAT THE GROUPS I'M IN CHARGE OF ARE ABOUT 75% DONE OR SO WITH THIS.

AND, UM, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A LIFT.

IT'S TAKEN A COUPLE HOURS, UH, IN EACH OF THESE, BUT IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL, GIVES US A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH AND REALLY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, UH, AND REFRESH THAT IN THEIR OWN MINDS AND DETERMINE HOW WELL THOSE ARE ALIGNING WITH OUR PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES.

SO THAT SHOULD BE DONE HERE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.

AND, UH, AND AFTER THAT IS DONE, WE'LL BEGIN THE PROCESS IN, UH, IN EARLY JANUARY OF SENDING BUDGET REQUESTS.

SO ANYONE THAT IS LOOKING FOR NEW FUNDING OR CONTINUING FUNDING ON THINGS THAT ARE ONLY APPROVED ONE, UH, ONE TIME, THEY CAN SUBMIT THEIR REQUEST, UH, AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL TELL US WHICH PROGRAMS THAT REQUEST LIES IN.

SO WE KNOW, DO YOU WANT TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON A HIGH SCORING PROGRAM OR A LOW SCORING PROGRAM?

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THIS IS THE METRIC WE'RE GOING TO USE WHEN PEOPLE WHEN GROUPS SUBMITTED THEIR BUDGET REQUESTS, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THEM AND SAY, OKAY, YOU WANT TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON THIS PROGRAM. IT DIDN'T SCORE VERY HIGHLY.

WHY DO YOU WANT TO SPEND MORE MONEY THERE? AND WE'LL HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

WE'RE NOT BEHOLDEN TO PICK A PROGRAM THAT SCORES HIGHER, UH, FOR FUNDS, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT THERE'S MANDATES FOR.

UM, I CAN SPEAK JUST FROM MY OWN KNOWLEDGE HERE THAT OUR CITY CLERK PROGRAMS ARE NOT GOING TO SCORE VERY HIGHLY.

UM, NOT REALLY.

WE WE WENT THROUGH AND SCORED THOSE, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF ZEROS IN OUR SCORES.

BUT BUT. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A WORKING CITY CODE, EVEN IF THAT'S NOT A PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO HELP US ATTAIN DIRECTLY, AT LEAST A SUSTAINABLE AND INNOVATIVE INFRASTRUCTURE OR A SAFE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY IN THE WAY THAT OTHER PROGRAMS THE CITY DOES.

UM, IT PBB IS A TOOL THAT WE COULD USE.

IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.

IT IS NOT THE ONLY THING WE'RE GOING TO USE, BUT IT HELPS GUIDE OUR DECISION MAKING.

SO AND, AND AND THIS IS PROBABLY MORE OF A QUESTION FOR CITY MANAGER.

SO, UH, I MAKE THE ASSUMPTION, RIGHT OR WRONG, UH, THAT DIRECTORS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS FEEL COMFORTABLE BRINGING THOSE NEW, UM, THOSE REQUESTS FOR, FOR MORE RESOURCES OR WHATEVER.

AND, AND, AND BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY NEED THOSE ADDITIONAL.

SO I'M WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE FEEL LIKE, OH, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT BECAUSE MAYBE THIS DEPARTMENT NEEDS MORE, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF MAKE DO WITH WHAT I'VE ALREADY GOT, AND I'M NOT GOING TO COME FORWARD BECAUSE MAYBE I DON'T LOOK LIKE I'M A TEAM PLAYER. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT PERSONAL PSYCHOLOGICAL STUFF.

YEAH. COMES IN, YOU KNOW, AND SO HOW DO WE HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE TO, TO TO COME FORWARD WITH WHAT THEY REALLY NEED TO GET THAT JOB DONE.

YEAH. THANK YOU. SOME EXAMPLES BUT I WON'T.

OH THANK YOU I THOUGHT YOUR QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE DID THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE SCORE HIGHER THAN THE CITY CLERK'S? I KNOW WE ALL KNOW THAT, UM, WE HEARD FROM HEIDI DERRYBERRY EARLIER TODAY TALKING ABOUT THE TIMELINE, AND SHE MADE REFERENCE TO THIS THREE WEEK WINDOW.

UM, AND. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND REALLY HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH ALL THE DIVISION HEADS, ONE AFTER THE OTHER, AFTER THE OTHER.

I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO QUICKLY POINT OUT IT'S NOT CONFINED TO THREE WEEKS.

THE PROCESS REALLY DOES TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS, BUT IN THAT THREE WEEK WINDOW, WE'RE KIND OF, UH, GETTING INTO THE WEEDS WITH WITH EACH DIVISION.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE ALL THE DIVISION HEADS, BUT MY OBSERVATION IS THAT THEY ARE NOT STIFLED OR RESTRAINED FROM COMING FORWARD AND ADVOCATING FOR THEIR RESPECTIVE DIVISIONS.

AND I SEE THAT LEVEL OF ADVOCACY IN A VERY HEALTHY WAY.

UM, PEOPLE SEEM TO BE MINDFUL OF ALL THE OTHER DIVISIONS IN THE INTERPLAY, THE INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE DIVISIONS.

BUT OUR DIVISION HEADS, UH, DO SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB OF, UH, ADVANCING THE NEEDS AND WANTS OF THEIR RESPECTIVE DIVISIONS.

AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE FEELING, UH, CONSTRAINED FROM HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

YEAH. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.

THANK YOU. UM. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S OUR ANNUAL PROFIT YEAR.

UM, THIS YEAR, OUR SCORING, UH, PART OF THE PROCESS IS MUCH MORE ROBUST THAN IT NORMALLY IS.

USUALLY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ONLY DO, UM, TO PROGRAMS THAT DID MAKE US A CHANGE, A NEW PROGRAM, OR IF THEY EDITED THEIR DESCRIPTION, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEW DESCRIPTION IS SCORED PROPERLY.

SO USUALLY IT'S ONLY 1 OR 2 PROGRAMS. THIS YEAR WE'VE HAD HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS.

SO IT'S BEEN A LOT MORE OF A LIFT THAN USUAL.

BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR ANNUAL THAT COMPONENT IS THERE EVERY YEAR.

IT'S JUST UH, IT CHANGES IN INTENSITY DEPENDING ON IF WE'RE DOING A REFRESH LIKE THIS YEAR.

NOW. ONE ONE NICE THING ABOUT THIS SYSTEM IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TO PUBLICIZE DATA IN A WAY THAT, UH, IS DIFFERENT THAN A BIG SEVERAL HUNDRED PAGE BUDGET BOOK, WHICH USUALLY IS THE ONLY WAY THAT CITIZENS, UH, CAN CAN VIEW THEIR CITY'S BUDGET.

AND THAT CAN BE VERY CUMBERSOME IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE NOT SURE, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT USUALLY IT'S A LINE ITEM BUDGET THAT'S DISPLAYED SO THEY CAN SEE OUR DEPARTMENT IS SPENDING $500 ON PENS.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S PROVIDING THE COMMUNITY.

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UM, AND IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO THE SITE BEFORE, I'D RECOMMEND EXPLORING IT.

IT HAS ALL KINDS OF CROSS TABS.

YOU CAN VIEW A BUDGET FROM ANY ANGLE OR LENS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO.

IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT JUST THE PROGRAMS THAT SCORE HIGHLY ON SAVING HEALTHY COMMUNITY OR ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, YOU CAN DO THAT.

IT'LL IT'LL SORT THEM IN ORDER FOR YOU SO YOU CAN SEE AND IT'LL BE A LITTLE BLOCKS THAT THE BIGGER IT IS, THE MORE MONEY IS SPENT IN THAT PROGRAM.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, WHICH PROGRAMS ARE SUPPORTING WHICH GOALS.

YOU CAN LOOK AT THE BUDGET OVERALL AND COLOR CODE IT SO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONES THAT SCORE HIGHER OVER HERE, YOU CAN DO ALL KINDS OF CROSS TABS ON THIS THING.

IT'S IT'S A VERY COOL TOOL THAT ALLOWS YOU TO SEE THE BUDGET WHATEVER WAY YOU WANT TO SEE IT.

UM, SO JUST JUST HAVING AN EXTRA METRIC TO LOOK AT GIVES US MORE THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH PIVOT TABLES, THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE BACK END AND DISPLAY DATA IN A WAY THAT'S THAT'S VERY NICE. IT, UM, IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.

IT GIVES THEM A REAL GOOD LENS INTO WHAT OUR BUDGETING PROCESS AND OUTCOMES ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE.

UM, AND IT, IT THEY CAN SEE EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY IS GOING TOWARD CERTAIN PROGRAMS AND HOW THOSE PROGRAMS SCORE ON ALL OF THE OBJECTIVES AND PRIORITIES, OR JUST SOME OF THEM, IF THEY IF THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT A FEW OF THEM.

UM, AND, AND IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT LINE ITEM VERSION THAT, THAT, THAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW MAY NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND OR GET THE FULL PICTURE ON.

UM, AND AGAIN, IT, IT IS ONLY FOR OUR, OUR OPERATING BUDGET.

IT'S NOT INCLUDE OUR CAPITAL BUDGET.

UM, SO, UM.

THAT'S THAT'S MY PORTION OF PB.

I THINK I'VE GOT A FEW MINUTES LEFT.

IF THERE ARE ANY REMAINING QUESTIONS.

IF NOT, I WILL.

I'LL PASS THE, UM, LASER POINTER AND, UH, ON TO THE NEXT, NEXT PRESENTER.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY.

HI, CHRIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE, UH, WE DID HAVE THE BREAK SCHEDULE FOR RIGHT BEFORE HIM.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE ABOUT A 15 MINUTE BREAK.

WE'RE STILL RUNNING AHEAD.

IT IS CURRENTLY.

R7. MATTER OF FACT, WE'LL WE'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT SHORTER BREAK.

CAN WE COME BACK AT ABOUT FIVE AFTER TAKE A BREAK NOW BE ABOUT 12 MINUTES AND COME BACK ABOUT 1005 OKAY.

THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT GUYS, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, AND GET STARTED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COOPERATION.

I THINK WE HAVE JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY BACK IN THE ROOM, A FEW PEOPLE MISSING.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.

IT'S TIME FOR BUDGET TEAM FOCUS.

CLIFTON ALLISON ECKERT AND JOANNE KEENE.

HOW ABOUT IT? HOW I CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU.

JEFF. DO A LITTLE TAG TEAM HERE.

UM, BUT BEFORE WE GET STARTED, A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS.

WHEN WE WERE DOING THAT LITTLE EXERCISE THAT JEFF HAD US DO EARLIER ON MEETING WITH OTHER PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, UH, SHAWN JOHNSON AND I GOT TOGETHER.

WE HAD A A BIG LIST OF COMMON FEATURES, UH, AND ATTRIBUTES.

BUT THE ONE I WANTED TO SINGLE OUT IS THAT WE CAN WE BOTH QUICKLY DECIDED THAT WE WERE, UH, BOTH WE BOTH OF US WERE, UH, WELL-DRESSED AND YOUNG AND HANDSOME. UM.

UH, RUNNING WITH THAT THEME, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE SOME OTHERS IN THE GROUP TODAY WHO, UH, FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.

STERLING, COULD YOU STAND UP? COULD WE TAKE NOTE ON HOW WELL HE IS? THE GLASS IS GONE.

THAT'S A TIE.

THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.

SEE? I'M GLAD WE DID THIS.

THAT'S WONDERFUL.

AND ALSO, WE HAVE A THEME DRESSER TODAY.

JOANNE IS SPORTING GREEN.

NOT BECAUSE IT'S SAINT PATTY'S DAY OR ANYTHING, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MONEY.

MONEY? YEAH. SO MONEY.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

WHERE WE LAUNCH INTO THIS TWO, I WANT TO CIRCLE BACK TO SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT JUST A SHORT WHILE AGO WHEN WE WERE ON THE RECESSION PLAN.

UM, AND, AND SOME NICE COMMENTS ON THAT.

UH, AND THEN PREVIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET TEAM AND HEIDI GAVE YOU A NICE, UH, GRAPHIC WITH, WITH THE PHOTOS OF EVERYBODY WHO COMPRISES THE BUDGET TEAM.

I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TEAM STRUCTURE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

WE HAVE SO MANY TEAMS THAT PERFORM SO MANY FUNCTIONS THAT BENEFIT OUR ORGANIZATION AND THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE.

BUDGET TEAM'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INWARD FOCUSED, OF COURSE.

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IT'S VERY COLLABORATIVE.

WE MEET EVERY WEEK, EVERY WEEK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

UH, AND THERE ARE TIMES LIKE LATELY WHERE WE MEET MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK.

I DON'T SAY THAT TO TRY TO IMPRESS UPON YOU HOW MUCH WE MEET.

I SAY IT TO, UH, ILLUSTRATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS TEAM AND WHAT IT'S DOING FOR THE ORGANIZATION.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE RECESSION PLAN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH.

FUNDING OR REFINANCING THE UNFUNDED PENSION LIABILITY YEARS AGO.

UM, GETTING US THROUGH ALL OF THESE.

EBBS AND FLOWS OF, YOU KNOW, OF EACH YEAR AS, AS WE SEE, UM, CHANGES IN REVENUE GROWTH, AS WE SEE CHALLENGES SUCH AS A GLOBAL PANDEMIC OR PERHAPS A RECESSION, UM, WHAT HAVE YOU, EVEN THE RECRUITMENT THING THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT.

RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION.

THE BUDGET TEAM IS AT THE HEART OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT, THAT EVERYTHING WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THUS FAR TODAY AND EVERYTHING WE WILL CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT, AS HAD THE BUDGET TEAMS, UM, EYES UPON IT.

AND SO, UH, THERE IS NO INDIVIDUAL EFFORT HERE.

THERE IS VERY MUCH A TEAM EFFORT AND A LOT TO SHOW FOR IT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, START OFF BY POINTING THAT OUT.

AND, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW INVESTING IN EMPLOYEES.

YEAH. SO JUST BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO ALLISON, WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO MORE DETAILS.

UM, BUT THIS CAME OUT OF THE, UM, THE BUDGET MEMO THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY RELEASE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE ACTUALLY, UM, DID A REFRESH OF THAT BUDGET MEMO THIS YEAR.

AND I'D LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT, UH, SCOTT OVERTON AND NICOLE, UM, WITH SUSTAINABILITY, WHO HELPED KIND OF WORK ON THAT AND REFRESH.

UM, BUT SOME OF THE THINGS, I MEAN, AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'M NEW TO THE ORGANIZATION.

I THINK THIS IS MY 27TH BUDGET YEAR, BUT IN DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND DIFFERENT LEVELS.

UM, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT BUDGET MEMO AND RECOGNIZE KIND OF ALL THE THINGS WE'RE DOING AS AN ORGANIZATION.

AND, UM, LOOKING AT HAVING A THEME FOR THE BUDGET.

AND WE CAME UP WITH DEFINING OUR LEGACY FOR THE THEME, UM, THIS YEAR.

UM, SO WE'LL GO INTO MORE DETAILS.

UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO JUST KIND OF POINT THAT OUT.

AND ALLISON'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT INVESTING IN EMPLOYEES.

YES. GOOD MORNING.

INVESTING IN EMPLOYEES IS MY FAVORITE THING TO TALK ABOUT.

OF COURSE, AS AN HR PROFESSIONAL, WE'RE GOING WE THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE TO DATE.

UM, AND I HAVE A LITTLE STORY I CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE ABOUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

ABOUT A MONTH. UM, BUT THE FUN THING FOR ME COMING HERE AND TALKING TO YOU ALL TODAY IS THAT I WAS HERE BACK IN 2019.

I WAS PART OF THE SCOPE OF WORK WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE MAJOR COMP CLASS AND COMP STUDY, AND I REMEMBER WORKING ON THAT, UH, SCOPE OF WORK AND THINKING, OH MY GOODNESS, IT'S OVERWHELMING. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY SUCCESS WITH THIS.

IT'S JUST THERE'S JUST SO MUCH TO DO.

AND THE LIST KEPT GETTING LONGER AND LONGER AND LONGER.

UM, I LEFT RIGHT AFTER WE SELECTED EVERGREEN, UM, TO, TO DO THAT CLASS AND COMP STUDY.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HEAR REALLY FOR A WHILE THAT WHAT WAS BEING DONE OR IF ANYTHING WAS BEING DONE.

SO HOW GREAT OF A FEELING IT IS TO COME BACK IN THIS ORGANIZATION AND SEE THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK STILL TO DO, WHICH WE'LL I KNOW WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER, BUT THAT'S WHY TO ME, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT EVERYONE HERE IS RESPONSIBLE COUNCIL SUPPORT.

ALL THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HELPED MAKE THIS PROGRESS THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO SHARE TO DATE.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND RECOGNIZE THAT BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE WORK, WE STILL HAVE TO DO.

SO, UM, JUST TO RECAP, UM, WE WENT BACK TO FISCAL YEAR 2022.

UM, THAT WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT THE MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THAT CLASS AND CONFERENCE STUDY STARTED TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

THE THINGS THAT WE DID THAT YEAR WERE ELIMINATED.

THE BROADBAND AND SKILL BASED PAY PLANS IMPLEMENTED, A NEW REGULAR PAY PLAN AND STEP PAY PLANS FOR WATER SERVICES, FIRE AND POLICE.

UH, WE MADE COMPACTION OR COMPRESSION ADJUSTMENTS, REINSTATED MERIT INCREASES FOR THE REGULAR PAY PLANS, AND ONE STEP INCREASES FOR ALL THE STEP PAY PLANS.

AND WE IMPLEMENTED AN EMERGENCY STAFFING COMPENSATION DIRECTIVE.

AND THAT DIRECTED DIRECTIVE ALLOWED FOR US TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PAY TO THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE BEING REQUIRED TO WORK ADDITIONAL HOURS DUE TO LOW STAFFING.

BECAUSE, AS WE ALL KNOW, EVER SINCE 2020, THE LOW STAFFING UM HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.

AS IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, 50% VACANCY RATE IN PUBLIC WORKS.

IT'S STILL AN ONGOING ISSUE SINCE THAT TIME IN FISCAL YEAR 2223, WE CONTINUED THAT 3% MERIT INCREASE FOR THE REGULAR PAY PLAN AND THE ONE STEP INCREASE

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WE MADE ADDITIONAL COMPRESSION ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON YEARS OF SERVICE.

UH, WE DID THE EARLY THE MINIMUM WAGE IMPLEMENTATION BASED ON 7% CPI.

UM, THAT WAS EARLY, EARLIER THAN THE ACTUAL UM, FLAGSTAFF MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE.

AND WE IMPLEMENTED A THREE TIER MEDICAL BENEFIT STRUCTURE, UH, REPLACING WHAT WAS A TWO TIER.

SO NOW TO OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 24, WE TRANSITIONED FROM THE ACROSS THE BOARD MERIT INCREASE PLAN TO A PAY FOR PERFORMANCE, UM, 2 TO 4% FOR THE REGULAR PAY PLAN, AND THEN CONTINUED THE ONE STEP INCREASE FOR FIRE OR STEP PAY PLANS, FIRE, POLICE AND WATER SERVICES.

UH, WE DID A MINIMUM OF A 3% MARKET ADJUSTMENT ACROSS THE BOARD.

UM, AND JUST AS A REFRESHER, A MARKET ADJUSTMENT KIND OF IS 3% ACROSS THE BOARD ACCOMPLISHES TWO THINGS.

IT ACCOMPLISHES CONTINUE TO MOVE OUR PAY RANGES UP TO BE COMPARABLE, UM, COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET.

UM, BUT THEN WE MOVED EACH INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE WITHIN THAT AS WELL.

SO WE KEPT THEIR COMP RATIO OR THEIR PLACEMENT WITHIN THE MARKET.

UH, AND WE INCREASED THE STARTING WAGE, AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, TO $18 PER HOUR.

THIS WAS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE FLAGSTAFF MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE AND GET AHEAD OF IT.

WE WANT TO GET AHEAD OF IT BECAUSE WE WE WANT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAYED COMPETITIVE IN OUR LOCAL MARKET TO AND MANY OF OUR LOCAL COMPETITORS WERE ALREADY OFFERING A HIGHER WAGE.

UM, WE ELIMINATED THE LOWER TIERS FROM OUR PAY PLANS.

UH, THAT DOES ADDRESS, AS GREG MENTIONED EARLIER, OUR PAY PLAN COMPRESSION.

AND WE IMPLEMENTED TWO LEAVE POLICIES, VOLUNTEERISM AND CATASTROPHIC LEAVE.

AND THEN WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION, RECOGNITION AWARDS AND EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES.

UH, ONE OF THOSE IS AN EXAMPLE IS IN JANUARY, I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE FIRST EVER CITY MANAGER AWARD EVENT.

AND WE'VE, UH, TWEAKED OUR SERVICE AWARD PROGRAM.

WE'VE ADDED THE FIVE YEAR RECOGNITION THAT USED TO JUST BE TEN, AND WE CHANGED VENDORS TO ALLOW FOR SOME BETTER GIFTS BASED ON EMPLOYEE FEEDBACK.

UM, WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AND WE CONTINUE TO, UM, JUST TRY AND ENHANCE THOSE LEAVE OPTIONS.

SO. SLIDE.

IT'S KIND OF A DATA COMPARISON HERE.

IF YOU COMPARE THE SALARIES IN JUNE OF 2021 WITH THE SALARIES IN SUMMER 2018, 96% OF EMPLOYEES, UM, HAVE HAD THEIR SALARIES INCREASED BY MORE THAN 10% AND 65% BY MORE THAN 20%.

UM, THAT DOES INCLUDE FOR CONTEXT PURPOSES, ALL PAYS, NOT JUST WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

IT'S MERIT MARKET PROMOTIONS, REASSIGNMENTS AND THE LIKE.

SO THAT'S JUST A GOOD PICTURE THAT WE'VE MADE GREAT PROGRESS.

AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE CAN ATTRIBUTE EVERYONE TO THIS ROOM TO THAT SUCCESS.

SO WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

WE HAVE STILL HIGH VACANCY RATES.

WE HAVE UM, WE WE HAVE SOME DATA FROM EX INTERVIEWS JUST THIS YEAR ALONE THAT INDICATE COMPENSATION IS STILL THE NUMBER ONE REASON PEOPLE ARE LEAVING.

SO TO CONTINUE THAT MOMENTUM.

AND THEN THESE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THINGS WE CAN CONSIDER.

WE HAVE NOT LANDED ON THAT.

WE ARE GOING TO DIG DEEPER AS AS GREG MENTIONED IN THE FUTURE RETREATS, BUT JUST SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE CONTINUE THOSE MOMENTUM, UM, CONTINUE THE MERIT AND PAY FOR PERFORMANCE INCREASES THAT IS ALREADY FUNDED IN OUR FIVE YEAR PLANS.

UH, WE CAN CONTINUE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS.

WE CAN CONSIDER ANOTHER ACROSS THE BOARD MARKET ADJUSTMENT, OR WE CAN LOOK AT MAKING MARKET ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON POSITION OR INDIVIDUAL JOB FAMILIES BASED ON WHERE THEY ARE IN THE MARKET. UM, WE DID HAVE A A PRIOR GOAL OF EVALUATING AT LEAST 25% OF POSITIONS BASED ON, UM, FACTORS SUCH AS THEIR PERCENTAGE BELOW MARKET. UH, WE'D LIKE TO MAYBE ENHANCE THAT GOING FORWARD.

WE HAVE A NEW SALARY SURVEY TOOL WHICH ALLOWS US TO GET SOME DATA A LITTLE BIT QUICKER.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO MAYBE ENHANCE THAT AND MAYBE TRY AND GET MORE OF THOSE EVALUATIONS DONE EACH YEAR.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO COULD LOOK AT EVALUATING.

WE RIGHT NOW HAVE A TARGET OF OUR MARKET BEING AT 50 PERCENTILE OF OTHER OUR COMPETITORS.

UM, BUT WE CAN EVALUATE POSSIBLY INCREASING THAT TO BEING EVEN A HIGHER PERCENTILE.

ALISON, YOU JUST TOUCHED ON THE, UM.

MARKET. UM.

COMPARISONS. THE DATA THAT WE USE, AND I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE WHAT SHE JUST SAID, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S GETTING A LOT OF, UH, OR GETTING THE LEVEL OF ATTENTION IT SHOULD HISTORICALLY, UH, WE HAVE DONE WHAT COMMUNITIES LIKE, LIKE OURS TYPICALLY DOES ORGANIZATIONS.

AND THAT IS EVERY TWO OR 3 OR 4 YEARS, UM, WE ENGAGE A CONSULTANT, HAVE MARKET ANALYZES PERFORMED ON, YOU KNOW, BENCHMARK CITIES LIKE OURS AND WE COMPARE DATA.

AND THEN OUT OF THAT VERY LONG PROCESS, WE COME BACK, TALK ABOUT IT WITH THE BUDGET TEAM.

WE START, UH, IMPLEMENTING STRATEGIES AND EVENTUAL, UH, ADJUSTMENTS TO TRY TO MAKE OUR CITY, THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF,

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THAT PROCESS, AS WE ALL KNOW, TAKES A LOT OF TIME.

AND WHAT WE SAW IN THE LAST GO AROUND ON THIS AND THAT STUDY WAS PERFORMED IN 2019 AND 20.

BY THE TIME WE DID EVERYTHING WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AND STARTED SEEING IMPLEMENTATION OF MARKET RATE ADJUSTMENTS, WE WERE DEALING WITH DATA THAT WAS TWO AND THREE YEARS OLD, AND I CAN'T IMPRESS UPON YOU ENOUGH HOW IN THIS CLIMATE, IN THIS LANDSCAPE THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, DATA THAT'S 2 OR 3 YEARS OLD BECOMES, UM, SO GROSSLY OUTDATED.

UH, THINK OF CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW AND THE RAPID COST OF MATERIALS, CONCRETE, STEEL AND SO FORTH, PROJECTS THAT WE BUDGETED FOR 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE HUGE ADJUSTMENTS.

WELL, IT'S NOT ANY DIFFERENT WITH OUR, UH, COMPENSATION WITH EMPLOYEES.

AND SO WHAT ALLISON JUST TOUCHED UPON IT AND WAS SOMETHING THAT RANDY, TRACY AND ALL OF US WERE WORKING ON, UH, PREVIOUSLY.

AND NOW IT'S COMING TO FRUITION, IS LET'S SCRAP THE OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS.

THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO IT.

AND SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO WAIT EVERY 2 TO 3 YEARS AND HIRE A CONSULTANT AND GO THROUGH THE VERY LABORIOUS PROCESS JUST TO COME UP WITH ADJUSTMENTS THAT, BY THE TIME THEY'RE IMPLEMENTED, ARE ALREADY, UH, OUT OF DATE.

WE ARE GOING TO USE REAL TIME DATA, AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ON THE FLY WITH REAL TIME DATA.

AND THAT REAL TIME DATA IS GOING TO BE UPDATED.

EVERY DAY, UH, EVERY WEEK AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

AND SO THERE WON'T BE ANY MORE LOOKING BACK AND THEN MAKING ADJUSTMENTS GOING FORWARD.

NOW IT'S GOING TO BE LOOKING CONTEMPORANEOUSLY, LOOKING AT THIS TIME, AT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING AND MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN LOCK STEP WITH THAT.

IS THAT A GOOD ARTICULATION OF THAT, AND THAT THE NEW TOOL THAT WAS PURCHASED THIS YEAR IS VERY HELPFUL IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN? YEAH. THANKS. SO SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS.

UH, WAIT, WE ALREADY TALKED. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE SOME ADDITIONAL STRUCTURAL PAY PLAN, UM, CONSIDERATIONS, OBVIOUSLY CONTINUING TO LOOK AT THE MINIMUM WAGE IMPACTS AND WHERE WE MIGHT NEED TO ADJUST.

UM, THERE'S, UM, SOME POSSIBILITY OF DOING A CITYWIDE EQUITY PAY STUDY.

THE LAST TIME THAT WAS DONE FOR THE ORGANIZATION WAS 2018.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE, AS GREG SAID, EVALUATING OUR SALARY STRUCTURE, ALIGNMENT WITH THE MARKET AND EVALUATING OTHER OPTIONS SUCH AS EXPANSION OF OF SALARY RANGES. IF THAT WERE TO BE SOMETHING THAT NUMBERS TELL US WE NEED, UM, OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO AND OUR POSSIBILITIES FOR GOING FORWARD ARE CONTINUED WORK LIFE BALANCE INITIATIVES, THE REMOTE WORK AND FLEXIBILITY, UM, WORK OPTIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ARE MAKING AN IMPACT.

WE DID WE ARE HEARING FROM EMPLOYEES THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE THAT WORK LIFE BALANCE.

SO THAT'S A REAL POSITIVE.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE EVALUATING VARIOUS LEAGUES FOR RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION PURPOSES, THINGS THAT WE THINK WILL BRING IN MORE APPLICANTS, UM, AND KEEP THE GREAT EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE.

UM, AND THEN WE ALWAYS CONSIDER, UM, THE EAC, THE EMPLOYEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY GET TOGETHER AS A GROUP, AND IT'S A REPRESENTATION OF THE ENTIRE CITY EMPLOYEE BASE.

AND THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE.

SO IT'S A REAL WAY TO TOUCH BASE WITH OUR EMPLOYEES AND WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

AND THEN, UM, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO KEEP APPRIZED OF OUR COMPENSATION CHANGES MADE BY OUR, OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS.

SO LIKE GREG MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE, THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE, SIMILAR AGENCIES, UM, WE ALWAYS KEEP AN EYE ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO TRY AND KEEP KEEP A PRIZE OF BEST PRACTICES.

I THINK MY LAST.

YEAH. JUST TO ADD, UM, AND MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT RIGHT NOW WE ALLOW EMPLOYEES TO WORK TWO DAYS REMOTELY.

SO, UM, WE ASK THEM TO BE IN THE OFFICE THREE DAYS.

UM, THERE ARE A MANAGER CAN WORK WITH THEIR EMPLOYEE IF THEY, UM, A SITUATION WHERE THEY NEED TO WORK REMOTELY AN ADDITIONAL DAY.

BUT THAT'S CORRECT.

AND WE DO HAVE FLEXIBLE, UM, FLEXIBLE OPTIONS SUCH AS FOUR TENS VERSUS 5/8.

UM, I THINK EVERYONE'S GIVEN SOME AUTONOMY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE ORGANIZATION.

AND AND THAT'S REALLY GOING A LONG WAY.

YEAH. YEAH, THANKS.

AND, UH, AS WE TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ALLISON MENTIONED AND THEN WHAT JOANNE JUST MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, REMOTE WORK.

UM, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO BEYOND COMPENSATION BUT ARE NEVERTHELESS VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR, UH, STAFF, UH, THINGS LIKE EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION, THINGS LIKE THE EMERGENCY LEAVE, UM, THE VOLUNTEER POLICY, WHICH HAS NOW BEEN FORMALIZED.

UH, JUST TO RECAP ON THAT REAL FAST, WE HAVE PUT INTO PLACE A PROGRAM THIS THIS HAS BEEN AN AMAZING, UH, PROGRAM THAT WAS THE,

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BUT WE TOOK WHAT USED TO BE AN ALLOWANCE OF THREE TOES A DAY, WHICH.

AND THAT'S NOW OFF THE TABLE THAT THAT'S OUTDATED.

UH, BUT WE CAME UP WITH A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS EMPLOYEES WHO ARE PROVIDING VOLUNTEER VOLUNTEERISM FOR CITY, UH, SPONSORED EVENTS.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A CITY EVENT, BUT SPONSORING, UM, THEY CAN SEE SOME CREDIT FOR THEIR VOLUNTEER HOURS, UH, THAT COMES BACK AND IS AGGREGATED WITH VOLUNTEER HOURS OF ALL OTHER EMPLOYEES.

AND IF WE REACH CERTAIN THRESHOLDS, UH, OF AGGREGATE VOLUNTEER HOURS, THAT BEING 1000 HOURS TO START, UH, WE AWARD THOSE EMPLOYEES WITH A SINGLE PTO A DAY OFF.

UM. TO TO USE THAT THEY'RE CHOOSING AND THAT'S SCALED.

IF WE HIT 2000 HOURS, IT COULD BE TWO DAYS OFF.

AND IT CAPS OUT AT 3000 HOURS WITH THREE DAYS OFF.

WE'RE IN OUR SECOND YEAR OF THAT PROGRAM AND IT SEEMS TO BE GOING QUITE WELL.

WE CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE RESULTS AT THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR US? IT MEANS OUR EMPLOYEES ARE BEING ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE IN IMPORTANT COMMUNITY EVENTS.

UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THAT WAS A LOT OF SANDBAGGING AND, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, EMERGENCY FLOOD MITIGATION.

BUT IT RUNS THE GAMUT.

IT COULD BE, UH, PICKING UP LITTER.

IT COULD BE CLEANING UP OUR DRAINAGES.

IT CAN BE DOING A NUMBER OF THINGS.

WE WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION AND OVERSEEING THAT PROGRAM.

AND IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

IT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE, UH, THE REMOTE WORKING, UH, BEING ANOTHER EXAMPLE, OF COURSE, THAT HAD ITS GENESIS DURING COVID WHEN EVERYBODY, UH, EXCEPT OUR FRONTLINE EMPLOYEES WERE WORKING FROM HOME.

WELL, YOU KNOW, RESIDUAL NOW WE HAVE A RESIDUAL TO THAT.

WE HAVE A POLICY WHERE WE RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, SOME WORK AT HOME ACTUALLY CAN BE BENEFICIAL FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND COULD ACTUALLY BE VERY EFFICIENT IN TERMS OF THE ABILITY TO ATTEND MANY MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS WITHOUT HAVING TO DRIVE FROM A TO B AND WITHOUT HAVING TO BE IN PHYSICAL LOCATIONS. AS WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

THIS MEETING, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN THIS MEETING ONLINE AS WE SPEAK.

SO THE THE HYBRIDIZATION OF OUR MEETINGS AND WITH THAT, THE ABILITY TO WORK REMOTELY HAS JUST BEEN A WONDERFUL, UM, OUTCOME OF A PANDEMIC THAT NONE OF US REALLY FORESAW.

BUT BUT NOW THAT IT'S HERE, I HAVE TO SAY IT WORKS FOR US QUITE WELL.

WE SEE IT AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AS WELL, WITH MANY PEOPLE WHO ATTEND AND SPEAK ONLINE, UH, IN ADDITION TO, TO BEING PRESENT.

SO, UH, A NUMBER OF IMPORTANT THINGS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES BEYOND THAT OF JUST COMPENSATION.

WE WANTED TO HIT ON COMPENSATION BECAUSE IT CONTINUES TO BE A TALKING POINT.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO FOCUS ON THE OTHER MANY GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT, PLEASE, MAYOR? TWO MEMBER HOUSE ASKED QUESTION.

COUNCIL VOLUNTEERING CONTRIBUTE TO THAT FOR EMPLOYEES.

AND ALONG THE SAME LINES, IS THERE A MECHANISM FOR COUNCIL TO CONTRIBUTE TO DONATED LEAVE REQUESTS OR ARE WE NOT PART OF THAT POOL? FIRST PART OF THE QUESTION, I COULD ANSWER YES.

THESE ARE THE VOLUNTEERISM WOULD BE ANYBODY WITH WITH THE CITY.

CAN WE EVEN ALLOW FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS TO, YOU KNOW, TO JOIN IN ON THAT? WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT TO HAPPEN.

UH, BUT THERE'S A AN ASTERISK TO GO WITH THAT.

UM, WE DON'T GIVE YOU ANY DAYS OFF COUNCIL FOR WE WANT YOUR WANT YOUR VOLUNTEER EFFORTS.

THEY WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A DAY OFF.

UM, SO SO IF WE VOLUNTEER, DOES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO WHAT STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO.

TO THE DAYS OFF AND WHATNOT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S THE AGGREGATE THAT'S THE FIRST TIME QUESTION.

SO LET'S KIND OF NOT OUR HEAD ON THAT ONE.

YEAH, BUT BUT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO IT.

BUT IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

NO. WHY IT WOULDN'T. YEAH.

SHANNON YOU WANT TO ADD.

BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE'S THAT INCENTIVE FOR YOU TO EARN THOSE PTO.

SO YOU DON'T NEED ANY OF THAT SPECIFIC TO A FULL TIME.

NOT TO EXCLUDE YOU.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEANS.

TO BE PART OF THAT OFFICIAL PROGRAM.

SO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE QUESTION.

UM, COULD WE ENTER IN OUR VOLUNTEER TIME TO GO TOWARDS THE AGGREGATE?

[01:45:05]

YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A HARD TIME HEARING YOU COME AROUND, SHANNON.

YEAH, BUT WHILE YOU'RE COMING AROUND, I MEAN, COME ON THIS SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

BUT YOUR TEAM COULD CERTAINLY ENTERTAIN THAT, UH, IN ADVANCE AT FORD.

MAYBE TO THE LEADERSHIP TEAM, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.

YEAH. RIGHT NOW THE THE POLICY JUST ASKS EMPLOYEES TO PUT IN THEIR TIME AND THEN ANY OF THEIR FAMILY OR FRIENDS THAT WERE WITH THEM.

UM, IS HOW IT'S TRACKED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO PERSONALLY BENEFIT.

BUT IF IT GOES TOWARDS THE AGGREGATE TO GIVE THRESHOLD, I DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE STRUCTURE, BUT WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY, I THINK.

THAT'S MY ALARM TOO.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A THREE MINUTE RULE TO START COUNCIL MEMBER.

YOU CAN'T SPEAK ANYMORE.

I NEED TO CHECK IN TO MY FLIGHT TOMORROW.

SO I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO BE TALKING TO GREG.

SOME OTHER THINGS WITH THE TOURISM PROGRAM.

WE PUT THAT ON THE LIST ONE.

SO WE'LL ADD THAT TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT MIGHT WORK.

I JUST THINK IT'D BE A FEEL GOOD TO BE ABLE TO HELP THE STAFF.

WE'LL DO IT ANYWAY. BUT YEAH.

NO IT'S GREAT. AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE FOR THE QUESTION.

AND BEFORE WE, UH.

YOU'RE NEXT. RIGHT, JOANNE? YEAH. AND JUST BEFORE WE GO TO THIS NEXT AREA, I JUST WANTED TO SAY WE JUST.

WHAT I JUST COVERED NOW WAS THE COMPENSATION SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE SOME UPCOMING PRESENTATIONS THAT TIE INTO ALL OF THAT SURVEY AND THEN THE RECRUITMENT INTENTION PRESENTATION.

SO THANKS, ALEX.

SO THERE'S MORE COMING.

UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST KIND OF A BIG PICTURE.

WE'LL GO INTO MORE DETAILS AS WE GET INTO THE PROCESS.

THE BUDGET PROCESS.

UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MENTIONED IN THE BUDGET PRIORITY MEMO THAT GOES OUT TO DEPARTMENTS.

IS CONSIDERING THE ALIGNMENT OF WHAT THEY'RE SUBMITTING AND COORDINATING WITH THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

UM, THIS IS NOT NEW.

UM, THIS IS I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG WE'VE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS.

UM, BUT CONTINUING TO DO THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS KNOW THAT IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK TO ADDRESS OUR CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND ALSO OUR HOUSING EMERGENCY AS WELL, WHICH IS NEW.

UM, SO WE'VE ADDED WE ADDED KIND OF MORE OF A FOCUS ON HOUSING IN THE BUDGET PRIORITY.

UM, MEMO TO REALLY EMPHASIZE THAT WE WANT ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS LOOKING AT, UM, ADDRESSING OUR HOUSING ISSUE NOT ONLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO FOR OUR WORKFORCE AS WELL.

UM, SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, THESE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES, AND THERE'S SO MANY EXAMPLES OUT THERE THAT WILL GO INTO LATER.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A SUSTAINABLE PURCHASING POLICY THAT, UM, WE'RE HOPING TO BRING TO COUNCIL EARLY NEXT YEAR.

UM, AND THEN ALSO AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON FOCUSING ON ELECTRIC VEHICLE PURCHASES.

I'LL GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL.

AND THEN ON THE TEN YEAR HOUSING PLAN, JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES IMPLEMENTING THE HOUSING BOND.

UM, WE HAVE MANY DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS EFFORT AND CONTINUING THAT EFFORT.

UM, AS WELL AS LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR THE INCENTIVE POLICY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.

AND I KNOW GREG WILL BE GOING INTO MORE DETAIL AT THE END OF THIS RETREAT ON THAT TOPIC.

ALL GOOD, ALL GOOD. OKAY.

I JUST PLEASE MAKE A COMMENT.

OF COURSE. OKAY.

SO, UM, THE HOUSING, UM, PLAN.

I JUST WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX IN TERMS OF HOW WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF WE CAN GET AN HANDLE, A HANDLE ON OUR HOUSING ISSUES, THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO HIRE PEOPLE, BECAUSE WHEN I MOVED HERE 30 YEARS AGO, THEY OFFERED ME ON CAMPUS HOUSING, AND THAT WAS A HUGE PLUS.

SO I WAS WILLING TO TAKE A LOWER SALARY BECAUSE I COULD GET THAT BENEFIT.

AND THAT HELPED ME IN THE LONG RUN IN TERMS OF GETTING INTO A HOUSE AND NOT ASKING US TO GIVE PEOPLE HOUSING.

BUT I'M, I'M ASKING US TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT USE THAT TO HELP OUR WORKFORCE AND TO HELP PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WE CAN'T GIVE STATE RESOURCES AWAY, I KNOW THAT, BUT WE CAN DO SOME OTHER KINDS OF THINGS THAT MAKE THAT AFFORDABLE.

SO I WANT US TO REALLY, REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT HOUSING PIECE BECAUSE IT IS CRITICAL AND IT IS THE ANSWER TO ALL OF OUR ISSUES.

YOU KNOW, I THINK REALLY VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT, THAT IF WE GET A HANDLE ON THAT, IT'S GOING TO SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND PEOPLE HAVE TO GET THEIR HEAD WRAPPED AROUND THAT BECAUSE IT IS BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S STOPPING A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF HAPPENING.

[01:50:06]

UH, TALK ABOUT IT THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION, UH, ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

UM, THE EMERGENCY NATURE OF IT.

I KNOW SARAH AND HER TEAM ARE, UH, WRESTLING WITH THIS, UH, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING, IF YOU WILL. UM, AND BEYOND.

BUT, UH.

THERE HAS BEEN A LOT TO SHOW FOR IT.

UM, BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE JUST HEARD FROM ALLISON, AS TO ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING, THERE'S A JOURNEY THAT LIES AHEAD.

UH, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, THAT'S WHY THAT HOUSING PLAN IS A TEN YEAR PLAN AND A VERY GOOD ONE.

BUT A LOT OF WORK THAT LIES AHEAD.

UH, SARAH, I KNOW WE'RE TOUCHING ON SOMETHING THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART.

IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND ADD TO IT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT WE KNOW YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE WORKING HARD ON THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH ALL THE OTHER DIVISIONS.

UM, SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

UM, BUT ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOU, UH, BE A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE THE QUESTION AND COMMENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, SARAH? A LITTLE BIT. NOT A LOT. YOU DID.

YOU DID A GREAT JOB. I LOVE HAVING YOU AS ADVOCATES.

UM, IT IS A TEN YEAR PLAN, AND I THINK THAT IS FRUSTRATING FOR SOME FOLKS BECAUSE WE WOULD ALL LIKE IT DONE RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO A QUICK REFRESHER WILL BE IN FRONT OF YOU ON JANUARY 9TH WITH A SIX MONTH UPDATE FROM OUR LAST ONE.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL ENTER THE IMPLEMENT THE PLANNING STAGE FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR JULY TO JUNE 2405.

SO WE, UM, WILL BE ROLLING OUT, UH, AS A HEADS UP TO SOME DIVISION DIRECTORS.

UH, STAFF WILL COME MEET.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT WORKS INTO YOUR WORK PROGRAM NEXT YEAR? WHAT DOESN'T? TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COORDINATING THOSE EFFORTS AND NOT JUST DICTATING AND EXPECTING PEOPLE TO JUMP WHEN HOUSING SAYS, WELL, GUESS WHAT, IT'S IN THE PLAN BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT HOW THAT WORKS IN A LARGE SCALE ORGANIZATION.

AND SO, MISS DEB, THANK YOU FOR THE THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.

WE LOVE THAT.

IT ALSO LEADS TO SOME VERY HARD DISCUSSIONS.

IT LEADS TO BALANCING MULTIPLE AUTHORITIES AS AN ORGANIZATION.

AND SO WE WE DO HAVE AN OUTSIDE THE BOX LIST, UM, OF CRAZY THOUGHTS THAT COME UP AND WE TRACK THEM.

UM, AND AS STAFF CAPACITY BECOMES AVAILABLE, WE LOOK TO TACKLE SOME THINGS.

WE ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE A VERY ENERGETIC INTERN THIS SEMESTER, NEXT SEMESTER, WHO HAS SHOWN SOME WONDERFUL PROMISE IN KIND OF TAKING SOMETHING AND AND DIVING DOWN INTO THE RABBIT HOLES.

SO NO THANK YOU.

WE'RE EXCITED TO TO SEE WHAT THE NEXT YEAR HOLDS FUNDING WISE AND WHERE YOU'D LIKE OUR EFFORTS FOCUSED.

THANK YOU, SARAH. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TOUCH MORE ON THE RECRUITMENT AND IN THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION SECTION ON THE ISSUES WITH HOUSING, HOUSING, BECAUSE THEY DO TIE TOGETHER. COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, DITTO ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, HAD SAID ABOUT HOUSING.

AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE BOTH OF OUR CRISIS'S ON HERE.

UM, AND THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, JOANNE AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, ANOTHER CITY'S DOING AND THE CURIOSITY, IT'S REALLY THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW.

IT'S THE WAY A LITTLE BIT OF OUR HOUSING ISSUE.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT, UH, OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN HAS A HOUSING COMPONENT, TOO, BECAUSE I WAS SPEAKING TO SOMEONE, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY YESTERDAY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE BUYING OR RENTING OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

I FORGOT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS IS, BUT IT'S AROUND 40, MAYBE EVEN MORE PERCENT OF OUR WORKFORCE IN TOWN DRIVE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, GOES AGAINST OUR GOALS FOR OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY.

AND SO HAVING BOTH HOUSING AND BOTH OF THOSE, UM, UH.

LANDS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE ONE CAN REALLY BE A NEGATIVE FACTOR TO THE OTHER.

AND SO HOUSING IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF OUR CARBON GOALS, AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE BOTH OF THEM ON THERE.

SO THANK. Q I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR THAT, SO THANK YOU.

YOU'RE JUST MOVING FORWARD, UH, TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT INTERNAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, SO FACILITIES FLEET AND IT UM, I THINK WE'LL GET MORE INTO DETAIL ON, UM, OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS LATER, LATER RETREATS.

BUT THIS IS JUST FOCUSING ON OUR NEEDS INTERNALLY.

UM, BUT JUST SOME BACKWARDS FACILITIES.

WE HAVE 12 FULL TIME STAFF, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE 1,000,000FT² AND 120 UNIQUE STRUCTURES THAT THOSE 12 FULL TIME STAFF

[01:55:09]

UM, CAPITAL RENEWAL PROJECTS ARE VETTED BY THE FACILITIES ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE FACILITIES BUDGET FOR CAPITAL RENEWAL.

UM, IT'S LOW.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THERE'S A CONTINUED DEFERMENT OF PROJECTS.

YES, YES.

UM, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY SEPARATE FROM THIS IN TERMS OF FACILITIES.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

AND YES, IT IS.

UH, BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOME COMMON GROUND ON THE TOPIC OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

UH, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, BUT I WILL SHARE AND WE ALL SEE IT.

YOU KNOW, UH, WE ARE SO PROUD OF OUR FACILITIES, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS.

UH, WE JUST FINISHED THE BOILER AT CITY HALL.

YAY! THAT'S BEEN ON THE LIST FOR YEARS.

UM, THE IMPROVEMENT FOR THE CITY WINDOWS HAVE HAVE BEEN WORKED ON.

I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THE SAME AT THE LIBRARY.

CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

BUT THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR SOME TIME.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE SO MUCH TO DO, SO MUCH TO DO.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UH, CITY HALL NEEDS A LOT OF TLC, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT.

AT THE SAME TIME, RECOGNIZING THE MANY GOOD THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, FIXING THE LEAKY ROOF AND UPDATING OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS, UH, AS WE HAVE, AND ALL THE OTHER WONDERFUL THINGS.

BUT WE HAVE A LONG WAYS TO GO DEALING WITH THE TEMPERATURE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

YEAH. THERE YOU GO. YES.

HOW'S THE TEMPERATURE? I KNOW, LIKE, IT'S, YOU KNOW.

WE SHOULD DO WHAT THE AIRLINES DOES, YOU KNOW, AND PUT LITTLE BLANKETS, UH, IN FRONT OF EACH SEAT.

GOOD BLANKETS. YOU FLY A DIFFERENT CLASS, I.

DO THAT. YEAH.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN A LONG TIME.

ARE YOU IN THE THE CATEGORY WHERE THEY CHARGE YOU FOR WATER? YES. SO MOVING ON TO FLEET.

UM, SO WITH OUR FLEET, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE 800 UNITS OF ROLLING STOCK.

SO THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT INCLUDES, UH, WHEELS AND ENGINES.

UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT DATING BACK TO THE 2008 RECESSION.

UM, WE'RE HAVING SOME ISSUES, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH COUNCIL, A BACKLOG OF VEHICLES.

WE'RE OUT 18 TO 24 MONTHS.

UM, AND THEN WE WE'VE PUT A STRONG FOCUS ON PURCHASING ELECTRIC VEHICLES, WHICH HAS HAD ITS CHALLENGES.

BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY WORKING THROUGH THOSE CHALLENGES.

AND WE'VE SEEN, UM, SOME VEHICLES, UM, MOVE FORWARD AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PURCHASE SOME VEHICLES FOR OUR FLEET.

UH, WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON TRAINING FLEET TECHNICIANS, TECHNICIANS TO SUPPORT THE FLEET NEEDS.

AND WITHIN THAT AREA WE'VE HAD SOME RETIREMENTS, SOME DEPARTURES.

SO WE'RE BRINGING FOLKS UP TO SPEED.

UM, ONE TIME DOLLARS HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

UM, TO HELP WITH FLEET, UH, BACKLOG.

AND, UM, THE HEALTH OF THE FLEET IS IMPROVING.

UM, THERE'S DEFINITELY A NEED FOR CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN THIS AREA.

I NOTE THAT JEFF IS STANDING, SO I'M GETTING NERVOUS.

OH, GOSH. NO.

WE'RE GOOD. I THINK THIS IS OUR LAST SLIDE.

YEAH. WE'RE CLOSE.

OUR LAST SLIDE. OKAY.

UM, SO, UM, IT SO, UM, IT OBVIOUSLY, I THINK LIKE ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF, WE HAVE ISSUES WITH IT INFRASTRUCTURE.

SOME OF THE THESE ARE SOME OF THE BIG THINGS.

WE DON'T HAVE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE AT THIS TIME.

BUT OBVIOUSLY NETWORK EQUIPMENT, WE'RE ACTUALLY, UM, SOME OF OUR NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE IS OVER SEVEN YEARS OLD.

UM, FIBER. WE HAVE THE BIG FIBER PROJECT.

WE HAVE A SOCK THAT, UM, SHOULD BE GOING OUT, UM, ANY DAY NOW.

AND, UM, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO NEED TO ALLOCATE SOME FUNDS IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR THAT PROJECT, OUR SERVER INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE ON A FOUR YEAR REPLACEMENT CYCLE, AND THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CONSTANTLY NEED TO BE INVESTING IN.

AND THEN UM, OUR SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS, SOME BIGGIES OUT THERE, UM, POTENTIALLY OUR NINE OR OUR 911 DISPATCH SYSTEM, UM, POTENTIALLY, UM, OUR ERP, OUR ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEM FOR DEVELOPMENT, UM, ETC..

AND THERE'S MANY MORE ON THAT LIST.

UM, I WILL SAY THAT CJ HAS PUT TOGETHER A TECHNOLOGY, UM, STEERING COMMITTEE WHERE WE'RE KIND OF GOING THROUGH ALL OF THESE NEEDS, AND THE GOAL IS TO TO HAVE A BETTER PROCESS MOVING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

SO THANKS TO JIM FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON THAT.

YEAH, IT'S AN EXCELLENT TEAM.

GOING BACK TO MY COMMENTS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF TEAMWORK.

[02:00:01]

SO ANY COMMENTS THOUGHTS QUESTIONS FOLLOW UP.

YES, PLEASE. UM, AND PRACTICE UM UP BEFORE BUT I JUST WANTED TO QUESTION AGAIN READING OTHER ARTICLES ABOUT UM, BEING ABLE TO MEET THE DEMAND IN OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE, UM, NATIONWIDE.

UM, AND JUST THE CONCERN OF HOW THAT IMPACTS OUR ABILITY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY IS THE WAITING 24 MONTHS WAITING FOR AN EV.

YOU KNOW, A VEHICLE, UM, IN A, LIKE FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT FIRE AND STUFF.

I'M JUST. I JUST WANTED TO RESTATE THAT.

THAT THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN, ESPECIALLY READING STUFF NATIONWIDE THAT, UH, NATIONALLY, UM, THAT INDUSTRY IS HAVING, UM, SOME CHALLENGES KEEPING UP WITH THE DEMAND.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT OVER COMMITTING OURSELVES IN SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL ON.

UM, AND THEN IT IMPACTING OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO OUR COMMUNITIES.

YEAH, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

COMMENT. I THINK WE ARE KEEPING A GOOD EYE ON THAT.

NICOLE, I WOULD INVITE YOU TO COME ON UP AND SHARE ANY INSIGHT YOU MIGHT HAVE OR ANYBODY FROM THE FLEET COMMITTEE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS.

I'VE SEEN BOTH SCENARIOS PLAY OUT.

I'VE SEEN INSTANCES WHERE THE BACKLOG WAS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES LIKE THE ONES WE RECENTLY PURCHASED FOR POLICE.

WE COULD NOT WAIT.

UH, SO WE HAD TO GO MORE CONVENTIONAL ON, ON THOSE VEHICLES.

AND THEN OTHER INSTANCES WHERE THE FLEET COMMITTEE HAS SEEN SOME SUCCESS, LIKE THE RECENT, UH, HYBRID PURCHASES WITH TOYOTA, OUR LOCAL TOYOTA DEALER.

UH, SO THERE'S THERE'S EXAMPLES OF BOTH, BUT I THINK WE'RE BEING VERY VIGILANT ABOUT IT.

YEAH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

GOOD MORNING, NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT POINT, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE MONITORING VERY CLOSELY.

BUT PLEASE KEEP IN MIND WE'RE NOT CONVERTING OUR FLEET ALL AT ONCE.

THIS IS ALSO IN A PROCESS OF ROTATION, UM, NEW VEHICLE NEEDS AND THEN ROTATION OF VEHICLES THAT ARE TIMING OUT IF YOU WILL.

UM, SO WE'RE KEEPING OBVIOUSLY A VERY CLOSE EYE ON IT, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY.

PACKED OUR GOALS IN THE LONG TERME BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CONVERT OUR FLEET ALL AT ONCE.

WILL WE HAVE SOME CHALLENGES? ABSOLUTELY. ARE ALL THE VEHICLES THAT WE NEED TODAY AVAILABLE? NO. UM, SO WE HAVE TO KEEP A REALLY GOOD EYE ON IT.

THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT WE ARE CREATING A LONG TERME VISION FOR THAT AND A PROCESS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE APPROACHING FIRST IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER ELEMENT.

UM, HOPEFULLY YOU REMEMBER THE PRESENTATION FROM DANNY, UM, PRESSLER JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

WILL BE BACK TO DISCUSS SOME MORE COMING BACK.

YEAH, THIS ACTUALLY ON TUESDAY.

TUESDAY. SO THERE'S KIND OF THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD SIMULTANEOUSLY.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, WE JUST HAVE TO BE VERY DIFFERENT AND KEEN ON WHAT THE INDUSTRY IS DOING, WHAT SUPPLIES ARE BEING AVAILABLE AND SO FORTH.

SCOTT, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? THANKS, NICOLE. ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE THAT.

18 TO 24 MONTHS IS ALL VEHICLES.

YEP. I'M GOING TO COME TO THAT IN A MINUTE.

UM, YEP. SO UH, AGAIN, SCOTT OVERTON PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, AND I'LL REPRESENT FLEET HERE TODAY AS IT'S PART OF OUR GROUP.

UM, NICOLE SAID IT. WELL, I THINK THERE IS A REALLY STRONG SYNERGY WITH SUSTAINABILITY AND WITH OUR EFFORTS TO PUT FLEET VEHICLES INTO EMPLOYEES TOOL BOXES, SO TO SPEAK, AND, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLES OR HYBRID VEHICLES OR ANY TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY IS EVALUATED AND TRIED TO BE, UM, SECURED FOR OUR NEEDS OPERATIONALLY.

BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHERE IF IT WON'T MEET THE NEED OR IF WE CAN'T GET IT, WE DO START TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE WE STILL NEED A VEHICLE OR A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

THIS REALLY DOES SPEAK MORE NOT ONLY TO EVS, BUT TO ALL OF OUR FLEETS.

AND WHERE WE'RE SEEING THIS LONGER.

LEAD TIME IS ON GARBAGE TRUCKS, PLOW TRUCKS, FIRE ENGINES, FIRE APPARATUS, THINGS THAT TAKE A LONG LEAD, TIME TO ORDER BY SECURE. AND THAT REALLY DOES IMPACT HOW WE BUDGET, UM, AND HOW WE START TO PLAN.

SO A GREAT EXAMPLE IN PUBLIC WORKS, WE RECENTLY PURCHASED A COMPACTOR.

IT WAS ON YOUR DESKS FOR THE LANDFILL THAT IS NOW IN THE BUILD PROCESS 26 MONTHS OUT.

OKAY, WE'VE PLANNED FOR THAT, BUT TRYING TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.

AND THEN WHEN YOU LOSE ONE, MAYBE IN AN ACCIDENT OR A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE, IT BECOMES EVEN MORE DIFFICULT WITH SPECIALTY EQUIPMENT.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT REFERS TO.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THE MARKET OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES CAN CATCH UP WITH OUR REQUESTS.

AND IN THE MEANTIME, FOCUSING ON INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE FOR US.

THANK YOU SCOTT. YEAH THANK YOU NICOLE.

THANK YOU SARAH, FOR THE PROMPT PARTICIPATION WITHOUT ANY NOTICE.

THANK YOU TO ALLISON AND JOANNE.

UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? WE'RE DOING GOOD TIME WISE, JEFF.

SO WE'RE DOING GOOD. WE'RE STILL.

[02:05:01]

YES. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. WE HAVE SOME TIME.

UM, ARE WE ALSO THINKING ABOUT, UH, REPAIR PEOPLE OR PEOPLE WHO CAN WORK ON THOSE EVS? BECAUSE THAT'S A SPECIALIZATION.

NOW, SCOTT, NO SOONER THAN YOU SAT DOWN.

SORRY. THAT IS A SCOTT OVERTON QUESTION.

YEAH, EXACTLY. I GOT 20 AND I'M GREAT.

CAN YOU ADDRESS THE TEMPERATURE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS? YES, I CAN ADDRESS THAT.

FIX IT, BUT WE CAN ADDRESS IT.

I KNOW THE INSIDE SIMPLY SOUNDS BETTER FOR JOKES, NOT ME.

UM, TO THE QUESTION OF FLEET TECHNICIANS, UH, WE DO HAVE A SMALL TEAM OF TECHNICIANS ON BOTH FLEET AND FACILITY SIDE.

UH, BUT YOU ARE SPOT ON.

WE HAVE TO SEND THEM TO CONTINUE TRAINING.

AND THIS ACTUALLY EVEN OCCURS WITH EVEN OUR COMBUSTION ENGINES.

TECHNOLOGIES CHANGE, VEHICLES CHANGE, THE UNIQUENESS OF OUR TECHNICIANS.

I THINK, UH, COMPARED TO MAYBE A PRIVATE SECTOR SHOP OR A DEALERSHIP IS THEY ALSO HAVE TO BE VERSED IN MULTIPLE TYPES OF APPARATUS.

SO WORKING ON A FIRE ENGINE, A POLICE CAR, A SNOWPLOW, A REGULAR SEDAN, ALL DIFFERENT MAKES AND MODELS.

SO IT IS A FAIRLY CONTINUOUS EDUCATION PIECE.

UH, SOME OF OUR RETIREMENTS ARE VETERAN FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR A LOT OF YEARS.

SO HAVING YOUNG PEOPLE COME IN AND PICK UP A NEW TRADE OR BE TRAINED UP TO THAT CALIBER TAKES SOME TIME.

UH, SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

UM, THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE PIECE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

UH, WE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF FORMAL TRAINING IN THAT REGARD, YET A LOT OF IT IS STILL DEALERSHIP, UM, PROPRIETARY.

UH, BUT IN TIME, I DO ANTICIPATE WE BUY MORE AND MORE OF THOSE VEHICLES.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THOSE EMPLOYEES AND THEIR SKILL SETS SO THEY CAN WORK ON WHAT WE OWN.

BUT IT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

AFTER THE HEAT, WE'VE TRIED A NUMBER OF THINGS.

WE'RE WORKING ON SOME THINGS. I HAVEN'T HEARD IT COME UP IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO PING YOU.

AND, UH, WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT COMFORTABLE.

IT'S 84IN THE BACK OF THAT ROOM AND IT'S LIKE 65IN THE FRONT, I THINK.

SO WE'LL KEEP WORKING ON IT.

AND REPORTS ARE STILL SUPER.

A LITTLE SNOW. YOU HAVE TO CALL ME IN MARCH.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT IT DID.

SUMMERFIELD. THANKS, EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU. AND, UH, RIGHT ABOUT THE TIME SCOTT SITS DOWN WITH ANYBODY ELSE.

HAVE A QUESTION FOR HIM? OH OH.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SORRY.

CALL ME JIM. THAT'S MY NAME.

THAT WAS A SLIP. THANKS FOR DINNER.

YEAH. I THINK I WOULD THINK THAT ELECTRIC VEHICLES PROBABLY HAVE LESS MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAN AN INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE.

VEHICLES? UH, YOU KNOW, LESS MOVING PARTS, MOVING PARTS.

SO I THINK THERE'S THAT'S ANOTHER ADVANTAGE TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT WE OFTEN DON'T TALK ABOUT.

TO THE POINT. COUNCILMAN FOR SCOTT.

UH, SINCE WE WERE TALKING FACILITIES, CLEARLY THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FEMALES AT THIS FACILITY BECAUSE THE FAUCETS AND THE WOMEN'S RESTROOM ARE A LITTLE WILD, AND, UM, THAT'S AN ACCIDENT.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT EVERYBODY.

WHO ELSE AGREES WITH ME? WITH THAT TO THE LEFT.

IT'LL LAST. EVERYBODY.

DULY NOTED AND REPORTED.

IT'S CORRECT. IT'S VERY OFTEN IT'S TIME SOMEBODY BROUGHT IT UP.

IT'S ON THE RECORD. IT'S ON THE RECORD.

YEAH. WE'RE ALL STUMPED ON THAT ONE.

UH. THANK YOU. GIVE YOU A TOUR.

THANK YOU FOR, UH.

UH, THANK TO ALL WHO PARTICIPATED.

SHANE AND I NEGLECTED TO CALL YOU OUT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS ON THE VOLUNTEER POLICIES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

UH, WE ARE STILL.

WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL.

WE'RE ABOUT, UH, 6 OR 7 MINUTES AHEAD OF TIME.

UH, WE DO HAVE LUNCH PLANNED FOR AROUND 12 P.M..

AND THIS NEXT SECTION, WE'VE WE'VE, UM, SCHEDULED IT FOR 60 MINUTES.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL GO THAT LONG, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BEFORE LUNCH FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON.

UH, UPDATES. UH, ALLISON ECKERT, JEN CAPUTO, AND, UH, HEIDI HANSEN.

AND, UH, THANK YOU GUYS.

UM. LIKE THIS IS SOME SORT OF INITIATION OF THE NEW GIRL, BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING ME COME UP TWICE.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I'M HERE TO UPDATE YOU ON THE EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT SURVEY.

SO THIS IS A SURVEY THAT IS CONDUCTED BY OUR CHAMPIONS TEAM.

AND THE GOAL OF THE CHAMPIONS TEAM IS TO FOSTER THE A POSITIVE CULTURE AND ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES BY, UM, ENCOURAGING FEEDBACK AND ENGAGEMENT.

SO THIS IS THEIR BABY.

IT HAS BEEN FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

UH, THE LAST TIME WE DID A SURVEY WAS 2019.

UM, TYPICALLY, HISTORICALLY WE'VE DONE ONE EVERY OTHER YEAR, BUT 2021 WAS SKIPPED DUE TO PANDEMIC RELATED ISSUES.

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SO, UM, THIS IS REALLY HIGH LEVEL.

THE TEAM DOES GET TOGETHER ONCE THEY GET THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY AND DO A VERY IN-DEPTH PRESENTATION THAT SHOWS A COMPARISON YEAR OVER YEAR, ACTUAL STATISTICS, UM, WITH EACH QUESTION ANSWERED AND JUST A WHOLE BUNCH OF DATA, UM, ON WHAT THEY HEARD FROM THE EMPLOYEES.

THEY'RE NOT READY WITH THAT YET, BUT WE REALLY FELT THAT WE NEEDED TO JUST COME TOGETHER AND SHARE JUST THE HIGH LEVEL COMMON THEMES, BECAUSE THEY TIE SO WELL INTO EVERYTHING WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY.

UM, SO I BROKE THEM INTO THREE CATEGORIES.

UM, OBVIOUSLY COMPENSATION IS THE BIG ONE COMMUNICATION AND THEN EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATION.

SO IN COMPENSATION, THERE WERE STILL OBVIOUSLY HIGH LEVEL OF COMMENTS RELATED TO THE COMPENSATION, STILL NOT WHERE IT IS OR WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE DUE TO HIGH COST OF LIVING.

UM, SHORT STAFFING CAME UP A LOT.

AND THE BURNOUT THAT THAT THE IMPACT OF BURNOUT THAT THAT CAUSES, UM, SO OUR VACANCY RATES REALLY TIE INTO THAT AND THEN LACK OF APPROPRIATE EQUIPMENT AND TRAINING, UM, ISN'T REALLY NECESSARILY COMPENSATION, BUT IT DOES KIND OF TIE IN TO JUST KIND OF OUR OWN FINANCIAL PICTURE.

UM, COMMUNICATION WAS THE NEXT HIGH TOPIC.

UM, THEY WANT MORE REGULAR COMMUNICATION FROM LEADERSHIP, UPPER MANAGEMENT AND THEN BETWEEN DIVISIONS UM, AND THE EMPLOYEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND HR ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY. UM, THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS ON FEAR OF RETRIBUTION.

WHEN THERE WAS THERE WAS A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT TWO WAY COMMUNICATION.

SO THERE IS SOME, UM, SOME AREAS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THERE RELATED TO THEM FEELING LIKE THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE HAVING THAT TWO WAY CONVERSATION WITH THEIR SUPERVISOR. AND THEN, UM, JUST A LOT OF COMMENTS, JUST SAYING HOW MUCH THEY APPRECIATE CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK, ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THEIR EFFORTS AND ABILITIES.

SO THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY A NEGATIVE.

IT WAS MORE JUST AFFIRMING THAT THEY REALLY ENJOY THAT.

THE OTHER THEME IS RECOGNITION EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION.

THERE'S ALWAYS LOTS AND LOTS OF IDEAS THAT COME OUT OF THIS SURVEY THAT KIND OF HELP GUIDE WHAT KINDS OF PROGRAMS WE BRING TO THE TABLE GOING FORWARD.

UM, THEY REALLY WANT THE THE ABILITY FOR DIVISION SUPERVISORS TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME ON THE SPOT AWARDS.

UM, THAT THE ABILITY SPECIFICALLY TO BE ABLE TO AT THEIR LEVEL AWARD.

UM TIME OFF AND THEN THE REST OF THE THE COMMENTS WERE ALL ABOUT THE TYPES OF RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATION.

THEY, THEY LIKE THE IDEA OF DISCOUNTS PAID TIME OFF.

THE BIG ONE GIFT CARDS, YOU KNOW THINGS.

UM, MORE REMOTE WORK, ANYTHING LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S MORE SOMETHING THAT I THINK TENDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN HAVE MORE TIME WITH.

MORE TIME WITH THEIR FAMILY.

OH, ANOTHER. SO ADDITIONAL THINGS JUST KIND OF THERE WAS A LOT ABOUT EVENTS WE ARE HAVING, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, OUR FIRST CITY MANAGER AWARD PROGRAM IN JANUARY.

UM, THERE WAS SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT.

THAT'S TO BE SPREAD OUT IN DIFFERENT AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UM, FACILITIES. SO THE CHANCE TO HAVE IT KIND OF IN THEIR HOME PLACE.

UM, THEY WANT THE EVENTS TO BE MORE RELAXED AND FUN.

SOMETIMES THEY FEEL LIKE SOME OF THE EVENTS ARE MORE LIKE MEETINGS.

AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY A REALLY STRONG INTEREST IN A COMPANY PICNIC, WHICH I BELIEVE, I DON'T KNOW, DIDN'T THE CITY USED TO DO THAT A LONG TIME AGO? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. YEAH.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING AND AND KIND OF A FUN IDEA.

SO TO BRING THAT BACK, UM.

AND SOME POSITIVE TRENDS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT SURVEY.

THEY FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK EMPLOYEES ARE FEELING VERY SUPPORTED BY THEIR SUPERVISORS.

THEY FEEL ENCOURAGED AND SUPPORTED TO COMPLETE PROJECTS AND ARE PROVIDED GUIDANCE WHEN REQUESTED.

THAT'S A REALLY NICE THING TO HEAR.

THEY REALLY ENJOY THE KIND OF WORK THEY DO.

AND UM, WHERE PEOPLE WITHIN THEIR UM, DIVISIONS AND THE COMMUNITY AND THAT THERE WAS A SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT EMPLOYEES CARING ABOUT EACH OTHER AND THE QUOTE THAT ONE OF THE QUOTES THAT CAME FROM THE SURVEY SPECIFICALLY WAS, THIS IS A SUPERPOWER OF FLAGSTAFF.

THE PEOPLE HERE ARE AWESOME.

THAT'S AWESOME TO HEAR. ALSO.

AND THEY DO REALLY BELIEVE, AND I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, THAT THEY ARE AFFORDED THAT WORK LIFE BALANCE.

SO THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO THE FLEXIBLE WORK OPTIONS THAT ARE NOW OFFERED TO THEM.

SO JUST SOME NEXT STEPS.

LIKE I SAID, THE THE TEAM, THE CHAMPIONS TEAM IS WORKING ON THAT MORE IN-DEPTH PRESENTATION.

THEY WILL ONCE THEY HAVE THAT COMPLETE, THEY WILL PRESENT IT TO THE REST OF THE TEAM, BECAUSE THERE'S A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE CHAMPIONS THAT ARE WORKING ON THAT.

SO THEY'LL THEY WILL PRESENT THAT TO THE ENTIRE CHAMPIONS GROUP LEADERSHIP AND EXTENDED LEADERSHIP ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND THEN THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY GO, UM, THEY'LL THEY'LL WORK ON AN ACTION PLAN, BUT THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY GO OUT INTO INTO THE INDIVIDUAL GROUPS, SPEAK TO THE EMPLOYEES, SHARE THE RESULTS OF THAT THROUGH SOME OF THESE, THESE IDEAS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH AND GET MORE, UM, GET MORE INFORMATION, GET MORE DETAILS ON THE KINDS OF EVENTS, THE KINDS OF RECOGNITION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE SAYING IN SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS THAT THEY'RE SHOWING UP IN THE IN THE SURVEY.

SO THEIR PLAN TO JUST GO OUT THROUGH THE ORGANIZATION, HAVE FOCUS GROUPS, HAVE THEM HELP SUPPLANT THAT ACTION PLAN, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A CLEAR DIRECTION GOING FORWARD.

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WAS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SURVEY? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY COMMENT.

UH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ON THE PAYROLL EMPLOYEES.

THANK YOU TO THE BOYS.

AND THOSE ARE OUR COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AND OF COURSE, THEY'RE NOT COMPENSATED.

AND I'LL JUST POINT OUT THAT, LIKE BACK WHEN WHEN I WAS ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE USED TO HAVE AN ANNUAL PARTY FOR ALL THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, AND I THINK WE STOPPED DOING THAT BECAUSE OF BUDGET ISSUES OR WHATEVER.

UH, BUT LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT OUR COMMISSION MEMBERS, BECAUSE THEY PUT IN A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF WORK, AND A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE EXPERTS IN THE FIELD.

OR IF THEY ARE NOT, WHEN THEY START TO COMMISSION, THEY BECOME EXPERTS BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY LEARN WHILE THEY'RE ON COMMISSION.

SO LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT COMMISSION MEMBERS.

CANADIAN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING. MAYOR.

VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS HEIDI HANSEN, ECONOMIC VITALITY DIRECTOR.

UM, BEFORE JENNIFER CAPUTO COMES IN AND TELLS YOU MORE ABOUT THE PROGRESS OF RECRUITMENT AT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, GREG WANTED ME TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON HOW IT LOOKS REGIONALLY.

AND YOU SAW A LITTLE BIT OF THIS FROM THE, UM, STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO TOUCH ON THREE AREAS THAT REALLY KIND OF COINCIDE WITH WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE HEARING ABOUT AT THE CITY.

AND ONE OF THEM IS, OF COURSE, THE LACK OF AVAILABLE HOUSING IN THE REGION IS A TRUE STRUGGLE.

UM, WE'RE HAVING NOT WE'RE NOT JUST HAVING TROUBLE TRYING TO RECRUIT AT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

IT IS A PRIVATE PUBLIC SECTOR PROBLEM.

SO IT'S IT'S EVERYWHERE.

UM, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT IN THIS ALONE, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A REGIONAL STRUGGLE, WHICH, WHEN IT'S REGIONAL, MEANS IT'S HARD TO, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, STEAL FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND BRING THEM HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE EQUALLY HAVING THE SAME PROBLEMS. AND THEN, UM, HOUSING WAS FOUND IN THAT STUDY TO BE ONE OF THE KEY ISSUES TO A HIRING DECISION.

SO PEOPLE WANT TO COME HERE, THEY WANT TO WORK WITH US.

THEY HEAR ABOUT THE GREAT THINGS, BUT WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY ONLINE, AND WE ACTUALLY ASKED THIS A LOT IN THE INTERVIEWS, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE HOUSING PRICES? AND THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE I WOULD LIVE.

SO WE HAVE I HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN, IN MY OWN DIVISION THAT LITERALLY ARE STILL, UM, COMING UP EVERY WEEK FROM THEIR HOMES TO, TO WORK AS LONG AS THEY'RE IN ARIZONA AND THEY'D LIKE TO STOP DOING THAT.

SO NOW WE HEAR SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN RENT OR WHATEVER, WE ACTUALLY TRY TO GET THEM.

UM. UM, HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THAT.

PLUS, THE HOUSING PRICES HERE ARE CONTINUING TO SOAR.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, IT IS ALARMING TO SEE THAT, UM, THE FLAGSTAFF LINE, WHICH IS THE THIRD COLUMN ON THIS, HAS GROWN.

THE, UM, HOUSING PRICES HAVE GROWN 80% IN FLAGSTAFF SINCE 2018.

80%. SO, UM, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO, RIGHT? ALSO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE REGION, THERE WE ARE, UM, 15,400 UNITS SHORT OF WHAT WE NEED IN THE REGION.

AND AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE COLUMN OF FLAGSTAFF, COLUMN TWO, WE MAKE UP 10,000, ALMOST 11,000 OF THAT 15,400.

SO WE HAVE A DESPERATE PROBLEM HERE WITH HOUSING.

AND THEN THEY'RE SAYING THAT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, ON TOP OF THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED ANOTHER 2000 UNITS.

SO WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.

AND THEN WE ALREADY ARE NOT TRENDING FOR THE UNITS THAT WE NEED.

SO THE DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU'RE HAVING WITH THE DEVELOPERS, THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO ARE GOOD ONES.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, FOR SARAH DA AND HER TEAM, THEY GOT A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF THEM WITH THESE, UH.

THE SECOND AND THE THIRD THING THAT CAME OUT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE, TOO, THAT WAS PRETTY, UM, COMPARATIVE HERE, IS THAT THE LABOR FORCE IS A SHORTAGE. AND THEN VALUES OF OF EMPLOYEES HAVE CONSTANTLY BEEN CHANGING, AND WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE VALUES.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THAT THE LABOR FORCE SHORTAGES, EVEN IF WE HAD THE HOUSING, WE STILL ARE HAVING A LABOR FORCE ISSUE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO PAY ATTENTION TO.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS.

STAY RIGHT HERE. THEY'RE SAYING THAT THE COUNTY IS BUILT OUT IN THIS STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO THAT'S THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT GROWING LIKE OUR COMPETITORS.

THEY'VE COMPARED US TO FORT COLLINS, BOZEMAN AND SAINT GEORGE.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE LINE, THIS IS FLAGSTAFF.

WE WE HAVE LITERALLY NO GROWTH HAPPENING.

WE HAVE NO WE HAVE NO WAY TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE THIS POPULATION OF WORKFORCE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO HOUSE THEM,

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SO WE KIND OF ARE A LITTLE BIT LANDLOCKED.

SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO PROBABLY IN THE FUTURE IS TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OUR OUTLINING AREAS, AND WE MAY EVEN NEED TO CONSIDER DOES THE COUNTY BECOME THE PLACE TO BUILD HOMES, AND THE CITY IS THE PLACE TO GIVE THEM A JOB? I DON'T KNOW, BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

UM, BUT WHEN PEOPLE TELL YOU THESE THINGS, I CAN TELL YOU THE STUDIES ARE COMING OUT TO WHAT WE'RE ALL SAYING AND THEN THE TOP FOUR VALUES.

AND I'M SORRY THAT THAT IS PLOY EASE.

IT'S NOT GOING IN THERE LYING UM, THAT THEY ARE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ITS COMPETITIVE BASE PAY, CHALLENGING WORK, CONVENIENT WORK LOCATION AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR CAREER ADVANCEMENT.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, THESE ARE CORE VALUES THAT WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME.

UM, AS THE LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT GREG HAS PUT TOGETHER AS WELL AS THE BUDGET TEAM, UM, CONVENIENT WORK LOCATION.

GREG DID A REALLY GREAT THING WORKING WITH ALL OF US THIS YEAR TO DO THE FLEXIBLE WORK SCHEDULE.

SO AFTER COVID, WE STILL HAVE AN ABILITY TO WORK THREE DAYS IN OUR LOCATION AND TWO DAYS REMOTE IF WE CAN.

NOT EVERYBODY CAN DO THAT, WHICH IS IS KIND OF HARD, BUT YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR.

I HAVE SOME STAFF THAT LITERALLY COME IN AND WORK A WEEK, AND THEN THEY REMOTE A WEEK BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE A HOUSING ISSUE.

WE DON'T REALLY CARE.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THEM HERE AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE WORK DONE.

BUT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET EVERYBODY HERE IS THE GOAL.

SO WE'RE WORKING TOWARD THAT.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO JENNIFER SO THAT SHE CAN TELL YOU HOW WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU REGIONALLY TIES INTO OUR STAFF.

GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER OKAY, SO OUT OF THE BOX THINKING HERE.

UH, SO WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOUSING, SO NOW HAS A PROBLEM WITH HOUSING.

COCONINO HAS A PROBLEM.

PROBABLY GORE AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF FOLKS HAVE PROBLEMS WITH HOUSING.

HAVE WE THOUGHT SERIOUSLY ABOUT COMING TOGETHER THOSE ENTITIES AND TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER ABOUT WHO'S GOT LAND? HOW CAN WE DO A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP? JUST BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN DONE DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT CAN'T BE DONE.

AND IF IT'S LEGAL, STERLING COULD FIGURE ALL OF THAT OUT FOR US AND AND DO IT BECAUSE PART OF I THINK OUR ANSWER TO THIS WHOLE HOUSING ISSUE IS FOLKS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER MORE BETTER THAN WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND SO TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE EASIER FIX.

NOT EASY. EASY.

BUT AT LEAST WE CAN WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF DURING THE THE ALLIANCE MEETINGS, IF PEOPLE EVEN HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT COMING TOGETHER AND DOING THESE HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE ALLIANCE.

BUT SUBCOMMITTEE DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN THAT YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD OTHER THAN JUST MEETINGS.

BUT ANYWAY, I KNOW THAT'S JUST ME BEING IMPATIENT.

SO. AND COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

SAYS. HAVE WE LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING TO SUPPORT EMPLOYER PROVIDED, SUPPORTED WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAMS? I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR SARAH.

I'M GOING TO LET HER COME ON UP AND TELL YOU ALL THAT SHE KNOWS.

YEAH. TRUE.

YES. NO.

UM, WE WE WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND WE HAVE A LIST OF THINGS.

REMEMBER THAT WHEN FOLKS BRING IDEAS FORWARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS AWARE THAT WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR NEIGHBORING STATES IS NOT NECESSARILY LEGAL IN ARIZONA.

SO WE HAVE A LIST OF YAY, THAT SOUNDS GREAT FOR YOU.

AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN WORK ON, BUT WE CAN WORK ON LOCALLY.

WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST, AND IT'S TIME TO APPROACH THEM AGAIN OF WORKING MORE HAND IN HAND.

BUT OUR CHALLENGE THERE HAS BEEN RESOURCES, SO WE DON'T HAVE CITY HOUSING DOES NOT HAVE AN ONGOING FUNDING SOURCE.

EVERY YEAR WE ASK FOR ONE TIME MONEY, AND I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL OF THAT.

IT'S JUST THAT THE FACT OF WHAT IT IS AND THE BOND FUNDING FABULOUS AND WE ARE SUPER GRATEFUL.

AGAIN, IT'S ONE TIME FUNDING.

SO THAT IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO PLAN WITH ANY SORT OF LONGEVITY OR HAVE MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WHERE WE CAN COME TO THE TABLE WITH AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT ONGOING SUPPORT ON OUR BEHALF LOOKS LIKE, OR OUR ONGOING PARTNERSHIP LOOKS LIKE, IS IS DIFFICULT WITHOUT HAVING THAT THAT PROJECTED PIECE.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH GAIL JACKSON FROM ECONA AND I ARE PLAYING PHONE TAG, UM, AT THIS AT THIS MOMENT, IT'S HER TURN, BY THE WAY,

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UM, AND SO, UM, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH NOW IN THE PAST, FOLKS ARE PRETTY PROPRIETARY ABOUT WHAT LAND THEY HAVE OR WHAT RESOURCES THEY HAVE TO ADD TO THE BUCKET.

AND SO I'M THRILLED TO HEAR THE ALLIANCE IS TALKING ABOUT IT.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH THAT OR BE INVOLVED, THAT'D BE GREAT.

UM, WE DO HAVE A LIST OF EMPLOYER ASSISTED HOUSING IDEAS.

I KNOW CHIEF MUSSELMAN IS I DON'T WANT TO SAY CONSTANTLY IN MY EAR, BUT LET'S GO WITH REGULARLY ABOUT NEEDING HOUSING FOR RECRUITS AND AND ALL OF THOSE PIECES.

AND SO WE'RE AWARE CHALLENGE AND IS RESOURCES.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GREAT RESOURCES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND ONE RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE THAT I DON'T THINK IS ON ANY BOARD OR COMMISSION, BUT IS A GUY NAMED RICH PAYNE WHO DID PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS IN AEW FOR YEARS, AND HE DID SOME AMAZING THINGS.

AND, YOU KNOW, GLENN HOPE THEY WORKED TOGETHER.

BOTH OF THEM ARE RETIRED FROM NOW.

BUT THEY, YOU KNOW, STATE MONEY AND STATE LAND AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.

THEY FIGURED IT OUT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, RICH IS IN OUR HE'S IN YOUR CIRCLE.

IN OUR CIRCLE. OKAY.

UM, IN REGULAR COMMUNICATION.

AND WE'RE WILLING TO COME TO THE TABLE AT ANY POINT IN TIME AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS.

PAIN, NOT A RICH BONE.

THERE'S A GUY NAMED RICH PAYNE, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING.

USED TO BE. SO WE, UM.

SO PULL PEOPLE TOGETHER.

BUT WE ARE UNABLE TO COMPEL THEM.

SO. AND IF THAT'S A DIRECTION COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US TO GO AGAIN, DO SO.

AND AS FAR AS OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, YES, WE ARE LOOKING AND THERE'S EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT DON'T COST A LOT OF MONEY, LIKE A BROWN BAG LUNCH OR LUNCH ABOUT HOMEOWNERSHIP RESOURCES ALL THE WAY TO THE COMPANY MODEL FOR HOUSING.

AND SO WE'RE THE DIRECTION AND COUNCIL LANDS ON THAT.

AND WHAT OUR RESOURCES ARE LIKE WILL REALLY DICTATE THOSE DIRECTIONS.

OH. THE COMMENT, IT SEEMS, IS JOHN WESLEY POWELL CORRIDOR.

WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE IS GOING TO BE WHAT HOUSING OUT IN THAT AREA ALONG.

WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE'LL BUILD IT OUT AND THEN IT'LL BE GONE.

NO, IT'S LIKE, WHEN CAN WE EVEN START? OH, OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER THAT AT ONE OF OUR ONE ON ONE MEETINGS.

IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN AN ANSWER TO MATTHEW'S QUESTION.

THE OTHER COMMENT IS, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE HIGHER DENSITY.

THE REALITY IS IT'S HIGHER DENSITY.

GREAT HOUSING AND IT MAKES IT THE CITY MORE WALKABLE, MORE BICYCLE.

IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY AND CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS ZONING LAWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT CITY CAN HAVE A PROFOUND IMPACT ON.

ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, HIGHER DENSITY FOR THE REASONS I JUST LISTED.

SO, UH, ANY COMMENTS? GO AHEAD. I'M DONE.

I'M GOING TO I WILL SAY THIS REAL QUICK AND THEN I'M NOT GOING TO DWELL ON IT.

BUT KEEP IN MIND, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT HIGH DENSITY IN SOUTH SIDE, SUNNYSIDE AND LA PLAZA.

WE GOT SOME LAND OUT THERE THAT'S GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF SUNFLOWERS ON IT, AND WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

BUT DON'T GET TO SAY NOT IN MY BACKYARD BECAUSE WE'RE IN A CRISIS HERE, SO EVERYBODY'S GOTTA SUCK IT UP.

SORRY. OKAY, SO.

I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON THAT, THAT I'M HOPING WITH OUR DOWNTOWN REVISIONING AND OUR, UH, AUDIT ON CODES, THAT.

START SEEING SOME OF THAT DOWNTOWN BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY, WE'VE GOT TO BE CREATIVE AND WHAT WE DO.

UM, ESPECIALLY FOR WALKABILITY.

AND I'M HOPING THAT IN OUR CODE ANALYSIS OR AUDIT THAT WE CAN LOOK AT NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE SIZE FITS ALL, BECAUSE WHAT WE FOUND FOR DOWNTOWN MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN ON THE OUTSKIRTS AND STUFF.

BUT THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AGAIN.

UM, SEDONA'S GIVING INCENTIVES FOR AIRBNB.

AND I KNOW IT'S NOT A BIG PERCENTAGE HERE, BUT JUST ANOTHER LITTLE CHIP, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO LONG TERME, UM, PIECES AND JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE TO START GETTING PEOPLE TO THINK AND STATE LAND.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO THROW IT ALL IN THE HAT.

AND J.W.

POWELL CONNECTING.

THAT WOULD BE OPEN UP, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE HOST OF HOUSING.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT AS WE LOOK AT WHAT HEIDI WAS SHOWING US, THAT WE'RE GOING IN A DEFICIT EVERY YEAR, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO TRY TO PUT THESE THINGS.

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UM, AGAIN, I MENTIONED ABOUT PEOPLE THEN BUYING OUT EVEN I CAN'T BELIEVE, UH, WINSLOW'S, YOU KNOW, THE PRICES OF THEIR HOUSES ARE GOING UP AS WELL IN THE COMMUTE. UM, AND SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY? AND, AND IF WE DON'T DO THE URGENCY ON THE HOUSING, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE COMMUTING, WHICH JUST REVERSES OUR GOALS TO REDUCE, UM, YOU KNOW, MILES TRAVELED AND STUFF.

AND SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THOSE TWO FOCUSES, IT REALLY JUST NEEDS TO THE HOUSING REALLY IS AN ANSWER TO A LOT OF THAT, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO PUSH PEOPLE OUTSIDE AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO BUY A HOUSE INSIDE CITY LIMITS WHEN IT BECOMES AVAILABLE OR AFFORDABLE.

WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT NOW SO WE CAN KEEP THEM, UM, IN THE CITY LIMITS AND NOT BE COMMUTING SO MUCH.

SO. SOME.

TECHNICALLY A FOLLOW UP.

I'M TALKING HIGHER DENSITY.

I'M NOT JUST THINKING ABOUT THE SOUTH SIDE, AND I'M NOT JUST THINKING ABOUT DOWNTOWN.

I'M SAYING IN GENERAL, JOHN WESLEY POWELL, IT SHOULD BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER DENSITY THAN WHAT'S PROBABLY BEING PLANNED.

YEAH. ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IS, UH, SHORT TERME RENTALS.

I WAS TWO HOUSES DOWN FROM WHERE I LIVE.

IT'S BASICALLY A HOTEL NOW.

IT USED TO HAVE A FAMILY IN IT.

THE HOUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME IS OWNED BY SOMEONE THAT LIVES IN PHENIX, AND THEY'RE ONLY THERE 2 OR 3 WEEKS A YEAR.

AND WE NEED TO TALK TO OUR LEGISLATORS ABOUT THERE SHOULD BE I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A LOWER TAX RATE FOR OWNER OCCUPIED. LOSING AS OPPOSED TO, UH, SECOND HOMES.

UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU SHOULD GET LOWER TAX RATE ON YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE IF YOU HAVE A SECONDARY HOME.

THAT SHOULD BE A HIGHER TAX RATE.

I REALIZE THE CITY CAN'T DO THAT AS ITS OWN, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOBBYIST THAT TALKS TO OUR LEGISLATORS ABOUT THESE ISSUES.

ALSO ADDED TO YOUR PRIORITIES, IF NOT SO HELPFUL WHEN YOU GUYS GET TO THAT PART.

YEAH, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

I'LL SEND HER THAT NOTE. UH, THAT ONE IS COMING YOUR WAY.

COUNCIL THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.

AND I DO WANT TO MAKE A DISTINCTION, AS HEIDI DID AT THE DAIS THE OTHER NIGHT, UH, BETWEEN SHORT TUM RENTAL AND SECOND HOME OWNERSHIP, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS THE SAME.

UH, SHORT TUM RENTAL HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN ISSUE.

YES, BUT NOT AT THE LEVEL THAT WE MAY BE SEEING WITH SECOND HOME OWNERSHIP, WHICH IS LIGHTS OFF VACANT HOUSE, YOU KNOW? OKAY, UM, I WANT TO TIE A COUPLE OF THINGS TOGETHER, IF I MAY, AND PARDON ME FOR LOOKING AT, BUT WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME DISCUSSION IN THE CHAT COLUMN AS WELL.

UH, ABOUT JOHN WESLEY POWELL THAT WAS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, IN RESPONSE TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE CAN HOUSING OCCUR.

BUT ALSO, DANFORTH NOTES THAT THESE SUITABILITY STUDY, THE LAND AVAILABILITY SUITABILITY STUDY, WE'LL JUST CALL IT LASS.

LASS, UM, IS UNDERWAY.

I SAW A, UH, SHORT PRESENTATION OF THAT THAT MICHELLE MCNULTY DID IN FRONT OF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE RECENTLY, AND IT WAS VERY ENCOURAGING TO HEAR AND SEE, UH, THE THINGS THAT ARE EMERGING IN THE COURSE OF THAT STUDY.

UH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO STEAL THUNDER FROM THAT PRESENTATION WILL BE COMING YOUR WAY.

AN UPDATE ON THAT, AS WILL AN UPDATE ON THE JOHN WESLEY POWELL DISCUSSIONS.

ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE IN THE QUEUE TO BE COMING TO COUNCIL.

OF COURSE, THE STUDY THAT WE'RE REFERENCING THAT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS OVERSEEN IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME, BUT YOU WILL GET UPDATES.

UH, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, UH, RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW.

AND ONE MORE REALLY QUICK FOLLOW UP.

OUR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER TOLD ME THAT 25% OF THE HOMES IN FLAGSTAFF ARE OWNED BY SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T LIVE HERE.

AND I JUST THOUGHT, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT, BUT APPARENTLY IT'S TRUE.

YEAH, YEAH. THE CLOSE.

BABS. YEAH, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO 25%.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS, SO JUST INVITE ME TO THE MEETINGS.

OF MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL, INTERIM DEPUTY HR DIRECTOR AND I AM HERE THIS MORNING TO SHARE SOME RECRUITMENT DATA WITH YOU GUYS. SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE, UM, IN THESE SLIDES IS REVIEWING DATA MAINLY FROM 2021, 2022 AND 2023.

YOU'LL SEE ALL OF OUR 2023 DATA IS THROUGH NOVEMBER 30TH.

SO THIS YEAR WE ARE UP TO ACTUALLY THAT NUMBER IS ALREADY INCREASED TO 195 IN JUST A WEEK OR SO.

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SO WE'RE DOING A FAIRLY GOOD JOB OF PROMOTING AND MOVING EMPLOYEES WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION.

THIS NEXT SLIDE TALKS ABOUT TIME TO HIRE.

SO I OFTEN HEAR THAT THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS IS SLOW.

SO I REALLY EXCITED TO SHARE THIS SLIDE WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE AVERAGE TIME TO HIRE THAT IS MEASURED FROM THE TIME THAT THE REQUISITION OR THE REQUEST TO POST A JOB IS PUT INTO OUR SYSTEM UNTIL THE EMPLOYEE ACTUALLY STARTS WORK.

OUR AVERAGE IS 64 DAYS AS OF AGAIN, 1130.

AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS THAT OUR AVERAGE TIME TO HIRE IS 75 DAYS FASTER THAN OUR BENCHMARK ORGANIZATIONS. AND THOSE BENCHMARK ORGANIZATIONS ARE CHOSEN THROUGH NEOGOV TO BE SIMILAR IN NATURE TO OUR ORGANIZATION.

WHEN WE BREAK IT DOWN AND LOOK AT THE ACTUAL APPLICATIONS.

WE HAVE HAD 3977 AS OF NOVEMBER 30TH, SO I'M SURE WE'LL BREAK THAT 4000 MARK BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING STATISTICS TO LOOK THAT 21, 22 AND 23, WE HAD THE MAJORITY OF OUR CANDIDATES IN STATE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THIS YEAR WAS 78% IN STATE AND OUR FLAGSTAFF LOCALS MADE UP 56%.

SO THAT INCLUDED FLAGSTAFF AS WELL AS ANY COMMUNITIES OUTLYING WITHIN 30 MILES.

APPLICANTS ARE FINDING OUR JOBS BY VISITING OUR CAREER PAGES WEBSITE, WHICH IS THE FLAGSTAFF CITY CAREERS.COM PAGE.

AND THE SECOND HIGHEST IS EMPLOYEE REFERRALS.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A HUGE OPPORTUNITY WITH OUR OWN EMPLOYEES SELLING OUR JOBS.

AND WE'LL TOUCH BASE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT IN A FEW MINUTES.

UM, THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO SOME MORE OF THE TECHNICAL DETAILS ABOUT OUR VACANCY AND OUR TURNOVER.

SO YOUR VACANCY RATES, THAT'S PERCENTAGE OF YOUR POSITIONS THAT WERE VACANT COMPARED TO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF POSITIONS FOR A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME.

SO THROUGH OCTOBER OF 2021, WE WERE AT 17TH OCTOBER OF 2022.

WE WERE AT 11TH OCTOBER OF 2023.

WE'RE AT 13.2%.

SO A LITTLE HIGHER VACANCY RATE THROUGH NOVEMBER 30TH OF THIS YEAR.

AND THEN OUR TURNOVER RATES 2023 IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED BECAUSE WE CALCULATE THOSE AFTER THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER YET.

BUT YOU CAN SEE IN 2022 IT WAS 24.76%.

AND IN 2021 IT WAS 24.93.

SO BOTH AVERAGES ABOUT 25%, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN THE STATE AND LOCAL AVERAGE, WHICH WERE BETWEEN 18.5 AND 19%.

DECLINED. OFFERS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING PRETTY REGULARLY.

UH, IT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, BECAUSE THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR WE'RE PRETTY SIMILAR IN NATURE.

THIS YEAR WE HAD 98 DECLINES, AND THE YEAR BEFORE WE HAD 94.

UM, MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DECLINING OFFERS MADE TO THEM ARE HAVE ACCEPTED ANOTHER POSITION.

SO I, I LIKE TO THINK ABOUT WHY WHY ARE WHY ARE THEY DECLINING THE OTHER POSITIONS.

IS IT YOU KNOW WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT IS IT PAY, IS IT UM BENEFITS.

IS IT OUR PROCESSES TAKING LONGER AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CATCH THOSE PEOPLE BEFORE THEY ACCEPT ANOTHER POSITION? UH, SO 37 IN THIS LAST YEAR, 29 CITED ANOTHER REASON.

MAYBE IT'S PERSONAL, MAYBE IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENING WITH THEIR CHILDREN, SCHOOL, DAYCARE, MAYBE IT IS A DECISION TO STAY AT THEIR CURRENT JOB ONCE THE EMPLOYER FINDS OUT THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO LEAVE.

UM, I FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT ONLY SIX CITED COST OF LIVING OR HOUSING, AND THEN ONE CITED THE COST OF BENEFITS. NUMBERS WERE VERY SIMILAR FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

AND THEN WE HAD A NUMBER OF POSITIONS THAT WERE JUST DARN NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO FILL.

EVERY WEEK OUR RECRUITMENT TEAM MEETS AND SOMETIMES WE JUST SHAKE OUR HEADS.

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WE KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHERS THAT AREN'T ON THIS LIST, BUT WE PUT TOGETHER SOME DATA.

UH, PUBLIC WORKS, OUR STREETS, OPERATIONS TECH ONE, TWO AND THREE HAS HAD ONGOING VACANCIES, ESPECIALLY IN THE THREE LEVEL.

THAT HIGHEST LEVEL.

SOLID WASTE EQUIPMENT OPERATORS AND LEAD WORKERS IS ANOTHER AREA WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS THAT'S BEEN CHALLENGING WATER SERVICES.

THE WATER SERVICES SUPERVISOR WE'RE KIND OF STARTING TO WONDER IF WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THAT POSITION BECAUSE WE'RE JUST NOT FINDING ANYONE THAT HAS THOSE QUALIFICATIONS. SO IT'S BEEN OPEN FOR A LONG TIME.

WATER SERVICES. OPERATOR I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY MY THE NUMBER ONE THAT STICKS IN MY HEAD.

NINE VACANCIES.

THAT'S A LOT OF VACANCIES.

UM COURT JUDICIAL SPECIALIST SIX VACANCIES, POLICE RECORDS, TECH AND THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST.

THAT ONE. WE DON'T HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME RECRUITING FOR.

THE CHALLENGE IS RETRAINING OR RETAINING THEM.

IT'S A IT'S A TOUGH JOB.

PROJECT MANAGERS AND SENIOR PROJECT MANAGERS.

UM, THOSE HAVE BEEN A CHALLENGE, BUT WE'VE RECENTLY MADE SOME STRIDES TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THOSE POSITIONS FOR A CLASS AND COMP PERSPECTIVE.

SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL RESOLVE THAT.

AND THEN ANOTHER PERSONAL FAVORITE OF MINE WAS THE CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR THAT WAS OPEN FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.

UM, WE HAD TWO PEOPLE THAT DECLINED THE SALARY, TWO PEOPLE THAT ENDED UP ACCEPTING ANOTHER POSITION, AND THE REST THAT APPLIED WERE NOT QUALIFIED.

ANOTHER THING THAT WE LOOKED AT IS OUR SHORT TERME RETENTION.

SO WE NOTED IN 2023 THESE ARE ALL CUMULATIVE NUMBERS.

BUT IN 2023 WE HAD ONE PERSON THAT ACCEPTED EMPLOYMENT AND DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR ORIENTATION.

AND THEN ADDING TO THAT, WITHIN THE FIRST WEEK WE HAD TWO MORE.

SO A TOTAL OF THREE.

NOW THAT WE'RE GONE, UM, BY MONTH ONE, FIVE HAVE LEFT BY SIX MONTHS, 34 PEOPLE LEFT, AND BY ONE YEAR 30 8IC THIS IS ANOTHER HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY WORK ON OUR RETENTION AND OUR ONBOARDING TO KEEP THESE PEOPLE ON BOARD.

QUESTION. YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS ON THE OTHER SLIDE.

HAVE YOU SURVEYED TO FIND OUT? ONCE THEY TAKE THESE POSITIONS, THEN THEY HAVE THE STICKER SHOCK ON THE COST OF LIVING HERE, AND THAT'S WHY THEY LEAVE.

IS THERE ANOTHER REASON WHY TENSION IS SO, UM, SOME OF THE SITE, THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE CITE WHEN THEY LEAVE ARE BETTER PAY AND BENEFITS, UH, CAREER ADVANCEMENT, UM, BETTER WORKING ENVIRONMENT.

THOSE WERE THE TOP THREE THAT THAT ARE CITED WHEN THEY LEAVE.

WE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING WHEN THEY LEAVE US.

UM, WE MAY BE ABLE TO PULL THAT DATA.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY.

AS I'D LIKE TO. YOU KNOW, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHO WHO THEY'RE LEAVING US TO GO TO.

YEAH. TO SEE IF REALLY THAT.

BECAUSE LEAVING IS THE SALARIES ARE BETTER THAN WE SAY.

OH YEAH THEY PAY.

YEAH. YES OR YES.

SO SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THAT HAVE MADE SOME IMPROVEMENTS ARE PURCHASING LINKEDIN RECRUITER THAT ALLOWS THE RECRUITERS TO GO IN AND EITHER ACTIVELY OR PASSIVELY, UM, CONTACT THE CANDIDATES.

SOME CANDIDATES ARE OUT THERE.

THEY MAY NOT BE LOOKING FOR A JOB, BUT THE LINKEDIN RECRUITER GIVES US THE ABILITY TO SEE THEIR SKILLS AND MATCH WITH THEM SO WE CAN REACH OUT, CONTACT THEM, AND ASK IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN APPLYING.

UH, THE FIRST TIME WE EVER TRIED IT, IT WAS SUCCESSFUL.

WE ENDED UP BRINGING ON OUR CLASS AND COMP MANAGER, JUSTIN, THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO, UM, IT CAN WORK WELL AND BE A REALLY STRONG TOOL.

THE NEXT THING WE'VE DONE.

I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT OUR SECOND HIGHEST POPULATION OF ATTRACTING EMPLOYEES IS THROUGH EMPLOYEE REFERRALS.

THIS PAST YEAR, UM, UH, ANIKA WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING TOGETHER AN EMPLOYEE REFERRAL PROGRAM, AND IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL TO, TO DATE.

WHAT IT IS, IS AT THE TIME OF THE INTERVIEW, THE EMPLOYEE RECEIVES A $25, UH, PAYMENT.

AT THE TIME OF THEIR HIRE, THEY'RE OFFERED $75.

AND THEN AT THE TIME THAT NEW PERSON HITS THAT ONE YEAR MARK, THE REFERRING EMPLOYEE EITHER GETS A $250 PAYMENT HOURS OFF WITH

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WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, POST COVID JOB FAIRS WERE ALL VIRTUAL, WHICH WAS JUST KIND OF ODD TO HAVE A JOB FAIR WITH NO PEOPLE, UH, IN PERSON. BUT WE HAVE GONE BACK TO, UH, GOING IN PERSON NOW AND OR A COUPLE OF THE PRIMARY ONES THAT WE'VE DONE.

WE ALSO WERE BUDGETED SOME MONEY TO REVAMP OUR JOB FAIR SETUP, REALLY GIVE IT A MORE PROFESSIONAL LOOK, GIVE OUT SOME SWAG AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE LOOKING PROFESSIONAL IN COMPARISON TO OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE AT THOSE SHOWS.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD OUR FIRST ANNUAL JOB FAIR.

WE PARTNERED WITH THE LIBRARY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, AND WE HAD PRETTY GOOD PARTICIPATION IN THAT.

WE HAD SOME OF THE OTHER DIVISIONS COME AND REPRESENT AT THAT TIME.

WE DID THINGS LIKE RESUME BUILDING, UM, HOW TO STAND OUT AS AN INTERNAL APPLICANT BECAUSE AGAIN, WE PROMOTE, UH, MOVEMENT WITHIN. AND THEN THE LIBRARY DID AN APPLICANT AND VIRTUAL INTERVIEW WORKSHOP.

UH, WITH OUR TOOL NEO GOV, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GIVE THE HIRING MANAGERS MORE AUTONOMY AND LESS HAVING TO WAIT ON HR TO DO THINGS THAT THEY ARE PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF DOING MORE QUICKLY THAN WE CAN IN MOST CASES.

THINGS LIKE INTERVIEW SCHEDULING.

OUR TOOL ALLOWS THE HIRING MANAGER TO GO IN AND SET UP THE SCHEDULE.

THEY SEND A NOTICE TO THE CANDIDATES, THE CANDIDATE'S SCHEDULE.

THEY CAN ALSO DO THEIR ADVERTISING THROUGH NEOGOV, WHICH IS HELPFUL TO JUST KNOW WHAT THE P-CARD IS AND THEY CAN DO IT ALL ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT WAITING ON US.

WE ALSO ADDED AN OTHER CATEGORY TO OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT REVIEW.

SO WHEN YOU'RE HIRING MANAGERS OR GOING IN AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, MAYBE IT'S A BACHELOR'S IN TWO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND YOUR CANDIDATE DOESN'T HAVE THAT.

MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE THE EDUCATION, BUT THEY HAVE MORE TIME IN THE POSITION.

THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD FALL INTO THE OTHER CATEGORY, SO THEY CAN LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL CANDIDATES AND HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO SEE HOW THEY MEET OUR MINIMUMS. AND THEN WE CONTINUOUSLY WORK WITH EACH HIRING MANAGER TO TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO MEET THEIR NEEDS.

I JUST HAD A CONVERSATION A FEW MOMENTS AGO WITH SHANNON JONES ABOUT ONE OF HIS POSITIONS THAT'S BEEN OPEN.

WE HAVE NOT HAD A SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATE FOR SOME TIME, SO WE'RE GOING TO REGROUP AND TRY SOME DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THAT POSITION.

SO ALWAYS ENCOURAGING THE DIVISION DIRECTORS TO KNOW THEIR AREAS OF EXPERTISE AND WHAT RESOURCES ARE OUT THERE AND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TO SHIFT AND MAKE A LITTLE CHANGE TO FIND THAT SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATE.

AND I'M GOING TO HIDE IT. YEP.

MAKE A COMMENT, UH, ABOUT, UM, RECRUITING AND AND LOOKING AT RESUMES AND STUFF.

A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO THROUGH LOOKING AT RESUMES, WE'RE LOOKING FOR LIKE, YOU KNOW, DID THIS PERSON DO THIS KIND OF A JOB, THIS KIND OF JOB? AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR TRANSFERABLE SKILLS.

AND SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO HELP PEOPLE LOOK AT HOW YOU SCREEN AN APPLICATION FOR TRANSFERABLE SKILLS.

SO I MAY NOT HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW, THE ACCOUNTING.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT MY TRANSFERABLE SKILLS, I'VE DONE ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN THAT ACCOUNTING.

AM I MAKING SENSE? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE SCREEN PEOPLE OUT AND WE SCREEN OUT A GOOD CANDIDATE BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE A SPECIFIC JOB. INK.

INK. ANOTHER TOOL THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY CONSIDERING.

COUNCIL MEMBER IS, UM.

LOOKING AT HIRES WHERE PEOPLE MAY NOT MEET ALL THE REQUISITE CRITERIA, BUT CAN ACHIEVE THAT CRITERIA OVER TIME.

SO IT WOULD BE A CONDITIONED OFFER, UH, ALLOWING EMPLOYEES WHATEVER'S NEEDED FURTHER THEIR EDUCATION, OBTAIN A CERTIFICATION, GET THE REQUISITE TRAINING.

OFTENTIMES WE HAVE GOOD CANDIDATES AND WE KNOW THEY'RE GOOD CANDIDATES, BUT THEY DON'T CHECK ALL THE BOXES.

AND I JUST THINK WE NEED TO, UH, WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO NOT ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT IN MANY INSTANCES, UH, BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE ON THAT FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT AND, UH, MAKE THE OFFERS CONTINGENT UPON THE SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THOSE CRITERIA.

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WE'RE GOING TO BE UPDATING SOME THINGS, CHANGING SOME THINGS AROUND.

WE HAVE ALL OF THE, UM, PHOTOS THAT YOU SEE, EXCEPT FOR THE THAT ONE.

WE DO SOME FROM DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF.

SO WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE THEM A SENSE OF PLACE AND THEN WE DO OTHERS WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR OWN EMPLOYEES IN THE ADS, AND THEN WE ACTUALLY CAN IN SOME CASES, WHAT WE CALL OUT LIKE, THIS IS JOSH WHO'S IN, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT TYPE OF THING, TO GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A HOMEY FEEL AND ALL THAT.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO BRAND THE ORGANIZATION.

IT IS NOT FOR, UM, JENNIFER TO GET THAT WATER SUPER SERVICES SUPERVISOR TOMORROW.

IT'S MAINLY TO LET PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND WHY THEY SHOULD WORK HERE TO LOOK AT THIS AND TO GIVE IT A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE DO. AND WE TALK ABOUT THE ASSETS, WE TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, AND WE ALSO TALK ABOUT WHAT IT'S LIKE TO WORK WITH THE PEOPLE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU WHAT A BRANDING CAMPAIGN IS FOR WHAT WE DID, UM, WITH THE RECRUITMENT TEAM IN 2023 IS WE STARTED OFF DOING SOME ADS IN THE LOCAL, UH, NEWSPAPERS, DAILY SUN, FLAGSTAFF BUSINESS NEWS.

WE DID THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF VIDEO.

IT IS ON THE CAREER SITE IF YOU'VE NEVER SEEN IT, BUT I'M SURE WE SHOWED IT TO YOU AT A PREVIOUS, UH, RETREAT.

GREG IS IN IT.

UH, SO ARE OTHERS.

AND, UM, WE ALSO DID A LOT OF RADIO ADVERTISEMENT.

WE DID, UH, THINGS IN THE NAVAJO-HOPI OBSERVER.

WE ALSO ASKED EVERYONE TO SIGNATURE.

IT IS A ROTATING SIGNATURE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE'S ON YOUR EMAIL FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, THEY SEE IT ROTATE.

IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT YET, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ME.

WE ALSO WORKED WITH MADDEN MEDIA TO GEOFENCE CERTAIN THINGS.

SO IF YOU WERE AT A LIBRARY CONFERENCE, FOR INSTANCE, AND SOMEONE TOLD US AND WE THOUGHT WE WERE REALLY STRUGGLING TO GET LIKE A DEPUTY LIBRARY DIRECTOR, FOR INSTANCE, WE WOULD GEOFENCE THEM, THEY WOULD GET SOMETHING ON THEIR PHONE AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY PING THEM THAT WE HAD A JOB AVAILABLE FOR THEM.

SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL, BUT WE TRY TO THROW SPAGHETTI AT THE WALL.

UM, WE LOOK AT LINKEDIN SPONSORED POSTS AND MUCH MORE.

WE ALSO DID, UM, FOR SOME OF THE POSITIONS THAT GREG WAS TRYING TO HIRE THROUGHOUT HIS LEADERSHIP TEAM.

WE ELEVATED IT BY MAKING BROCHURES THAT WE COULD USE IN RECRUITMENT.

WE ALSO HAVE IT IN DIGITAL FORMAT.

AND, UM, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHY PAUL MOOD CAME HERE.

WAS THIS BROCHURE RIGHT, PAUL? SO AT ANY RATE, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING IN FY 2024 IS WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING, UH, MORE MOUNTAIN LINE BUS WRAPS.

WE CAN GET A REALLY GOOD PRICE ON THOSE.

AND YOU JUST SEE THEM ALL THE TIME.

WE HAVE ONE ON THERE NOW.

WE WILL ONLY USE THE DAILY SUN ON HIGH RIDERSHIP DAYS SINCE THEY HAVE, UH, LESSENED THEIR AMOUNT OF TIMES THAT THEY ACTUALLY DISTRIBUTE THEIR PAPER.

UH, I THINK, CHIEF, THAT WE FINISHED YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT VIDEO.

YES. AWESOME.

BECAUSE WE HAD BEFORE DONE JUST ONE FOR PD.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT REALLY SPOKE TO WHAT THEY DO.

UM, WE ALSO ARE DOING HARKINS THEATER ADS, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE THE ONES THAT, LIKE, BUY YOUR TICKET AND THEN JUST SIT DOWN RIGHT BEFORE THE SHOW.

I WILL TELL YOU, I WAS AT THE MOVIES TWO WEEKS AGO AND WE WERE ALL WATCHING THE COMMERCIALS.

SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THEY DO WORK, AND IT IS A GREAT WAY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE.

WE ARE DOING CONCENTRATED AD BUYS.

SO FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH WATER SERVICE SUPERVISOR, WE NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE DISCOVERY FLAGSTAFF TEAM AND WE NEEDED TO END THE WATER SERVICES GROUP.

AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVEN'T DONE AND WE NEED TO CREATE A PLAN.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE CONTINUED TO DO COOL CAREERS BRANDING ON THE, UH, CAREER WEBSITE THAT JENNIFER TALKED ABOUT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME GROCERY STORE SHOPPING CART ADVERTISEMENTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU WON'T LOOK AT THEM.

I KNOW I DO. I KNOW EVERY REALTOR IN TOWN THAT'S ON IT.

SO AT ANY RATE, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING ANYTHING THAT WE CAN.

AND THEN ALSO POLICE DEPARTMENT CAME TO US WITH AN IDEA AND IT WAS, UH, TO DO SOME ADS AT THE ANYTIME FITNESS LOCATIONS IN DIFFERENT CITIES. AND SO THE AD RIGHT THERE IS THE ONE THAT THEY'VE APPROVED AND THAT IS GOING TO BE RUNNING.

SO WE'RE HERE TO DO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN.

BUT I WILL TELL ALL THE LEADERS IN THE ROOM TODAY, I DON'T KNOW YOUR BUSINESS BETTER THAN YOU.

SO YOU NEED TO COME TO US AND YOU NEED TO SHARE WITH US WHERE YOU THINK YOUR PEOPLE ARE LOOKING, AND WE WILL HELP PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR YOU.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO JEN.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO WE DO HAVE SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT IN WAYS TO, UM, OUR BUSINESS.

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SO WE HAVE 80 OPEN RECRUITMENTS RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE AN ANALYST AND A RECRUITER.

AND THEN SOMETIMES I STEP IN TO HELP WHEN IT GETS A LITTLE OUT OF CONTROL.

UM, SO THIS UNFORTUNATELY LEADS US TO BE MORE REACTIVE THAN PROACTIVE.

IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE HAD TIME TO DO SEARCHING ON INDUSTRY.

UH, WHAT'S NEW IN THE INDUSTRY AND BEST PRACTICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT MOST OF THE TIME WE'RE FINDING OURSELVES BEING REACTIVE RATHER THAN PROACTIVE.

SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON.

UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING SOME MORE CROSS TRAINING.

AND OUR TEAM, AS WE DO SOME SHIFTS IN HR JUST TO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT CAN HELP OUT WHEN WE HAVE A WEEK WHERE THERE'S 7 TO 9 RECRUITMENTS THAT NEED TO BE OPENED. AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE ADDITIONAL STAFFING NEEDS AS PART OF THIS.

AS FAR AS STREAMING STREAMLINING THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS, I MENTIONED EARLIER HOW ONE OF THE HIGHEST, UM.

WAYS WE'RE LOSING CANDIDATES IS DUE TO OTHER POSITIONS.

I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO TRY TO TO NARROW THAT TIMELINE DOWN, UM, AND, AND JUST CONSOLIDATE AND KIND OF THINK AHEAD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO, TO HELP US PUSH THAT PROCESS FASTER.

UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE LOOKED INTO.

ONE IS CALLED VIDEO INTERVIEWING.

SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SET UP A GENERIC SET OF QUESTIONS.

AND AS THE HIRING MANAGER GETS CANDIDATES THAT COME THROUGH AND QUALIFY FOR AN INTERVIEW, THEY CAN SEND THE INTERVIEW INFORMATION TO THE CANDIDATE.

AND THAT ALLOWS THAT THAT HIRING MANAGER OR EVEN THE TEAM THAT'S GOING TO BE INTERVIEWING TO WATCH THAT ANYTIME THEY CAN.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO NARROW DOWN IT'S GOING TO BE THURSDAY FROM 10 TO 2 WHEN WE'RE GOING TO DO THESE INTERVIEWS.

YOU CAN WATCH THEM FROM THE CONVENIENCE OF YOUR DESK ANYTIME, DAY OR NIGHT.

WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, OR YOU CAN WATCH YOUR INTERVIEW ALL ON YOUR OWN.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY AMAZING, UM, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME TALKING WITH HIRING MANAGERS TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY FEEL WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEIR AREAS.

I THINK SOME WOULD BE MORE CHALLENGING IN SOME FIELDS THAN OTHERS, BUT DEFINITELY A POSSIBILITY.

WE'RE ALSO DOING IT, UH, LOOKING INTO A BACKGROUND CHECK IN INTEGRATION.

SO OUR NEOGOV, THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT VENDORS THAT JUST ALLOW US TO DO THE BACKGROUNDS.

IT PULLS ALL THE INFORMATION OVER FROM NEOGOV.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GO IN AND REENTER IT FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE, WHICH CAN BE A LOT OF INFORMATION, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING BACK SEVERAL YEARS AND THEN ALSO MODIFYING TO AN OPEN UNTIL FILLED, UH, PHILOSOPHY SO THAT THE JOBS STAY OPEN AND YOU'RE ABLE TO PULL THE CANDIDATES AS YOU GO. AND WHEN YOU FIND YOUR QUALIFIED, QUALIFIED CANDIDATES, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THOSE INTERVIEWS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THAT, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE A DATE THAT YOU'RE WAITING FOR.

I MENTIONED THE POSSIBILITY OF, YOU KNOW, THINKING OF ALL THE THINGS WE CAN DO TO DECREASE OUR TIMELINES.

SO SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES ARE THAT IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET PEOPLE ON BOARD.

IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS.

SO ONE IDEA IS WHEN YOUR POSITION OPENS IS TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE HIRING MANAGERS SCHEDULE THE DATE FOR THE INTERVIEWS, GET THE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS DONE.

SO WHEN THAT CLOSING DATE HITS, YOU'RE READY TO GO.

WE OFTEN SEE IT TAKES 2 TO 3 WEEKS, SOMETIMES FOR A HIRING MANAGER TO COMPLETE THEIR SMES, AND THAT REALLY IMPACTS OUR ABILITY TO GET THOSE CANDIDATES BEFORE THEY MOVE ON, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING, THEY MAY BE TAKING THE FIRST OFFER.

SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING AT.

SO IN ADDITION TO TIMELINESS, THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT DOING SOME RECRUITMENT TRAINING, JUST SOME LITTLE SNIPPET VIDEOS.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT IS FULL OF LINKS AND SCREENSHOTS AND DIRECTIONS FOR THE HIRING MANAGERS.

BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE LEARN IN DIFFERENT WAYS, SO WE WANT TO OFFER SOME VIDEOS AS WELL.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO REEVALUATE POSITIONS AS THEY COME THROUGH.

AND WE HAVE CHALLENGES.

HEIDI'S GOT A LOT OF IDEAS.

UM, AND AND SO WE'RE ALL HERE TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO GET YOU THE BEST CANDIDATE AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

WE WILL ALSO CONTINUING, LIKE ALLISON WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT COMPENSATION AND THOSE CHANGES.

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SO THINGS THAT AREN'T DIRECTLY COMPENSATION THAT MAY POSITIVELY IMPACT, UM, HOW THE CITY RANKS AS A EMPLOYER OF CHOICE. UH, IMPLEMENTING NEW RETENTION TOOLS.

ONE THING THAT WE ARE WILL BE BRINGING TO YOU VERY SOON, NEXT TUESDAY, I BELIEVE, IS SOMETHING CALLED ON BOARD.

IT'S ANOTHER PLATFORM, PLATFORM THROUGH NEOGOV, AND IT HELPS US TO ONBOARD THE EMPLOYEE.

IT GIVES THEM A LOT OF, UH, IT GIVES THEM A SPECIFIC PORTAL TO THEM, AND WE CAN FEED INFORMATION THROUGH THAT PORTAL.

AND THEN, UM, THE LAST OF WE KIND OF ALREADY MENTIONED IT IS JUST BALANCING OUR WORK PROGRAMS. WE'VE HAD. I THINK MOST OF, YOU KNOW, A TON OF CHANGES IN HUMAN RESOURCES.

UM, WITH RANDY BEING OUT, UH, ONE OF OUR HR MANAGERS, HIS LAST DAY IS TOMORROW.

UM, SO JUST A LOT OF CHANGES AND REALLY JUST TRYING OUR BEST TO DO SOME CROSS TRAINING AND, UM, BALANCE ALL OF OUR WORK PROGRAMS. SO BEFORE I TURN IT BACK OVER TO HEIDI, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.

THANK. HERE'S A QUESTION.

OKAY. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? YEAH. UM, REBECCA WAS ASKING IF WE COULD DO THIS PRESENTATION FOR EXTENDED LEADERSHIP AND LEADERSHIP.

WE WOULD LOVE TO.

YOU TELL REBECCA WE SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I'M NOT UP FOR SERVICE, PARTNER, SO I'M NOT SURE WHO IS.

I THINK IT'S. THINK IT IS.

NICOLE AND I COULD HELP AS WELL.

YEAH, THAT'S AFTER MUCH.

OKAY. OH, WE'RE WE'RE DOING GOOD.

AFTER LUNCH. AFTER LUNCH.

OKAY. NICOLE. NICOLE, YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

UH, HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING SO FAR? PRETTY GOOD. EVERYBODY DOING GREAT.

NICE. WE ARE.

WE ARE STILL 14 MINUTES AHEAD.

SO THAT'S GREAT. SO YEAH.

YEAH WE'RE DOING WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL.

LET'S OPEN IT UP.

LET'S UM, TAKE A FEW MOMENTS FOR, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I THINK WE WANTED TO INCLUDE HERE AND THEN AS.

WE BREAK FOR LUNCH AS WE GET READY FOR LUNCH, I, I, I LOVE TO DO THIS.

WE'VE ALL BEEN SITTING IN A ROOM TOGETHER FOR, YOU KNOW, THE LAST, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL HOURS.

AND IT'S REALLY EASY WHEN WE BREAK OUT AND WE START DISCUSSING WHAT WE'VE LEARNED, WHAT WE'VE HEARD THIS MORNING TO FOCUS ON MAYBE SOME OF THE THE NEGATIVES. I WANT TO I WANT TO SWITCH THAT THINKING.

I WANT EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK INTO THE ROOM AFTER LUNCH WITH TWO POSITIVE THINGS THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT YOU CAN IDENTIFY OUT OF THE MORNING SESSION, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BUILD FROM THERE.

EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH OKAY. OH OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TO.

ALL RIGHT. YES WE HAVE TO BECAUSE, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND YES, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE THOSE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS, BUT WE CAN HAVE THOSE AT ANOTHER TIME.

LET'S KEEP MOVING FORWARD, AND LET'S KEEP BUILDING ON THE GOOD THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS MORNING.

OKAY. SAY AGAIN YES, YES.

THAT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD. UH, LET'S, UH, LET'S HAVE SOME OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

DO WE, UM, OBSERVATIONS, YOU KNOW, ON THE LAST DISCUSSION ABOUT RECRUITMENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE TEAM FOR PRESENTING.

UH. TO TWO COMMENTS ONE.

YOU KNOW IT.

WHAT'S GOING ON IN AIR JUST LIKE EXEMPLIFIES WHAT'S HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION.

AND I THINK YOU CAN GLEAN FROM ALL THE DATA THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH THE VACANCY RATE OF OF WHAT WAS IT, 13%? THAT'S NOT ACROSS THE BOARD.

WE HAVE SOME DIVISIONS THAT ARE STRUGGLING AND OTHER ONES THAT ARE NOT.

UM, BUT SPECIFIC TO HR, YOU KNOW, AND FOR A VARIETY OF CIRCUMSTANCES, WE'VE HAD SO MANY VACANCIES.

AND RECENTLY AT THE LEADERSHIP LEVEL, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CREATIVE MOVEMENT, UH, TO HELP BACKFILL THOSE VACANCIES IS AT THE HEART OF EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BUDGET, TEAM RECRUITMENT, RETENTION, HR HAS INVOLVEMENT.

AND WHEN HR IS SHORT STAFFED, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TO FUNCTION AT THAT LEVEL THAT IS BENEFITING THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION.

UH, SO THERE'S BEEN SOME CREATIVE MOVEMENT.

UH, AND I WANT TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE BROUGHT ALLISON IN THROUGH A CONSULTANT WHO HAS HELPED US BEFORE SHE WAS HERE, AS SHE MENTIONED, 2019.

WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HAVE HER BACK.

WE HAVE ELEVATED, UH, JENNIFER CAPUTO TO A DEPUTY POSITION.

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BUT FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE MAKING THAT POSITION PERMANENT.

UM, WE DO HAVE A RETIREMENT HAPPENING, UH, TOMORROW.

UH, WE'RE ACTIVELY RECRUITING TO, UM.

WE WE'VE HAD SOME SUCCESS RECRUITING INTERNALLY, ADVANCING OUR EMPLOYEES WITHIN, UH, STAY TUNED FOR SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS THERE.

AND WE'RE ACTIVELY RECRUITING TO BRING PEOPLE IN FROM THE OUTSIDE.

UM. JESSICA VIGORITO, WHO WAS WITH HR FOR A WHILE.

AND THEN, UH, CHIEF GAYLORD STOLE HER, UH, AND OVER INTO FIRE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.

UM, YOU AND HEIDI OBVIOUSLY WENT TO THE SAME SCHOOL OF PIRATING FROM OTHER DIVISIONS, BUT THE, UM.

WE HAVE. AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME PROPS HERE.

UH, THE CHIEF HAS AGREED, AND JESSICA HAS AGREED TO COME BACK TO AIR ON A PART TIME BASIS AND HELP US.

WE'VE ALSO ASSEMBLED THIS, UH, CLASS AND COMP TEAM.

THERE'S MANY PEOPLE COMPRISING THAT TEAM.

WE'RE STARTING TO MEET, UH, SO IT IS AN ALL HANDS ON DECK.

AND I THINK, AGAIN, IT KIND OF EMBODIES WHAT WE'RE EXEMPLIFIES, WHAT IS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION.

WE'RE GETTING CREATIVE WHERE WE CAN UM, THE OTHER TAKEAWAY, UM, AND I KNOW IT'S A BIT IN THE NEGATIVE REALM, BUT BUT WE'LL COME BACK WITH POSITIVES AFTER LUNCH.

UH, BUT IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT RECRUITMENT, AS WE CAN SEE.

UH, WE'RE, WE'RE PAST A CHALLENGED, UM, CHALLENGED GREATLY AT TIMES WITH RETENTION.

UH, SO THE EMPLOYEES WERE LOSING, UM, AND THINK ABOUT IT FROM AN EMPLOYER'S VIEWPOINT.

YOU RECRUIT, YOU HIRE, YOU TRAIN, YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME, RESOURCES BRINGING THAT INDIVIDUAL INTO THE ORGANIZATION.

AND THEN WHEN THEY LEAVE EARLY, AS THE NUMBERS INDICATE, UH, SHOCKINGLY, IN SOME INSTANCES, UH, WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF INVESTMENT OF RESOURCES. WE'RE LOSING A VALUABLE PERSON.

I DON'T MEAN TO, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF DOLLARS AND CENTS.

THAT'S THE HEART OF IT IS A PERSON THAT THAT WE'RE LOSING.

BUT WE'RE ALSO SEEING, UH, A LOSS OF RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT, TO PUT IT IN ECONOMIC TERMS. UM, SO THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR US, IS GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN KEEP THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE'RE TRYING SO HARD TO RECRUIT.

SO A COUPLE OF TAKEAWAYS.

THANKS, MAYOR. I'M WONDERING, UM, SINCE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE THE HOT TICKET IN TOWN, UM, FOR EVERYONE TO WATCH THIS, LIKE, UH, YOU SHOULD MOVE TO HARKIN THEATER SINCE EVERYBODY.

I MEAN, WE COULD BRING IT TO A HIGHER LEVEL.

YEAH, I THINK SO.

BUT I'M WONDERING, UM, IF DURING PUBLIC COMMENT ON A REGULAR BASIS, UM, SOMEONE FROM A DEPARTMENT COULD TALK ABOUT POSITIONS THAT ARE OPEN AND MAYBE, UM.

LIKE KIND OF SKILLS, THE KIND OF PERSON THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS.

LET US RUN WITH THAT.

THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.

THREE MINUTES. THREE MINUTES.

MAKE IT SOUND EXCITING.

WITH PICTURES.

YES. THANK YOU FOR THE SUGGESTION.

ANYONE ELSE? OH, I WAS GOING TO SAY ALSO, UH, THINK ABOUT, UM.

THE UNIVERSITY IN TERMS OF MAYBE PART TIME POSITIONS.

UH, YOU KNOW, COLLEGE IS EXPENSIVE AND SOME OF THOSE STUDENTS HAVE FLEXIBLE SCHEDULES, AND THEY MIGHT NOT MIND BEING OUTSIDE SHOVELING SNOW OR WHATEVER BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE KITCHEN WASHING DISHES.

THEY'RE OUTDOORSY PEOPLE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY LIKE TO DO.

AND SO, UH, IT'S A GREAT WAY TO PAY FOR COLLEGE.

AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS.

SO IT'S A THOUGHT.

INDEED. THANK YOU.

INTERNSHIPS. AND THEN ADDING TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD SUCCESS IN HIRING GRADUATES FROM NIU, UH, RIGHT OUT OF THE CLASSROOM.

UH, SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT MORE.

THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE IN A ROOM LIKE THIS THAT HAS A CLIFTON THAT'S JUST BURNING THEM UP.

OKAY, BUT YOU'RE WAITING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO ASK IT.

SO NOT WITH THIS GROUP.

NOT WITH THIS GROUP. I'VE ALREADY ASKED THE QUESTION.

OKAY, THERE'S ONE PERSON AT LEAST ANYWAY.

AND I DON'T MEAN TO. I DON'T MEAN TO REALLY PUT ANYONE ON THE SPOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS AS YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THE MORNING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, HAVE A QUESTION OR A COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, NOW'S THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MINUTES AND THERE'S SOMEONE IN THIS ROOM THAT CAN MAYBE ADDRESS THAT

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WHAT IS FOR LUNCH? YOU'VE GOT PIZZA AND SALAD.

PIZZA AND SALAD. ALL RIGHT.

SEE. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR BREAKING. THANK YOU FOR BREAKING THE SEAL.

ANYBODY ELSE? I DIDN'T SAY WHAT KIND OF QUESTION IT HAD TO BE.

NOW EVERYBODY'S HUNGRY.

EVERYBODY'S READY FOR A BREAK.

OKAY, GOOD. WE'RE GONNA.

WE'RE GONNA BREAK ABOUT SIX MINUTES EARLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO HAS PRESENTED THIS MORNING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PREPARATION AND WE WILL SEE YOU UP.

OUR BREAK IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 36 MINUTES.

WE'LL BE BACK AT 1230.

OUR SEATS AGAIN.

COUPLE OF THINGS.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE AT A PRETTY GOOD PACE.

UH, I NOW I HAVE IT CONFIRMED YOU GUYS AREN'T GOING TO BE UPSET AT ME IF WE GET OUT A FEW MINUTES EARLY, RIGHT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD, GOOD.

SO. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE ASKED GOING OUT TO LUNCH WAS FOR BECAUSE I FIGURED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE IN SMALL GROUPS.

WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT STUFF.

AND, UH, MAYBE THE CONVERSATION MIGHT SWING A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR TO THE NEGATIVE SIDE.

SO WE WANTED TO AVOID THAT.

SO I ASK YOU FOR TWO THINGS THAT YOU COULD SAY WERE POSITIVE OUT OF THE MORNING SESSION.

SO WHO WANTS TO GO? WHO WANTS TO SHARE WITH ME TWO THINGS.

YES. WELL, IN MY SEVEN YEARS ON COUNCIL, I'VE GONE TO A LOT OF THESE RETREATS.

YEAH. ONE THING I THOUGHT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TODAY IS THAT.

WE HAVE SOME NEW PROBLEMS. HOUSING. I MEAN, IT'S MORE IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, BUT IT'S MORE INTENSE.

AND OUR, UH, MAINTAINING OUR STAFF AND WHAT I THOUGHT WAS VERY POSITIVE IS WE SPENT SOME TIME ON THAT, AND WE HEARD A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS FROM STAFF AND SOME GOOD IDEAS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY POSITIVE.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SHARE? COOKIES ARE GOOD TOO AND THE COOKIES ARE GOOD TOO.

THAT'S TWO THINGS. YES.

UM, I WANT TO ECHO HOUSING IS GETTING MORE ELEVATED AND THAT'S EXCITING FOR ME.

AND THAT SCOTT HAS PUT IN A WORK ORDER FOR THIS FAUCET.

OKAY. YES, YES.

ALL RIGHT. SO SO WE HAVE WE HAVE HOUSING, WE HAVE COOKIES AND WE HAVE THE THE FOUNTAIN.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE DOING WELL OKAY.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO DO BETTER THAN PROJECTIONS IN TERMS OF OUR REVENUE.

UM. THIS IS MY FIFTH OR SIXTH YEAR OF DOING THIS.

YOU SAID SOMETHING LIKE 24 BUDGET MEETINGS SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE.

SO I'VE BEEN FOR A FEW MORE OF THOSE COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY EVEN MORE THAN THAT.

UM, I HAVE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN A BUDGET PROCESS WHERE WE'VE BEEN TASKED WITH THE VERY DIFFICULT JOB OF CUTTING SERVICES AND FINDING WAYS TO SCALE BACK, AND I'M JUST REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

I IT'S IT'S BUDGET TIME IS FUN WHEN YOU HAVE MONEY TO SPEND.

UH, SO THERE'S THAT.

AND THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR, AT LEAST AROUND THE EDGES, THAT I'VE HEARD THIS MORNING FROM MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH.

OKAY. VERY GOOD TO BE A LOT OF CONSENSUS IN THE ROOM WITH CONVERSATIONS.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

GARY. UH, I HAVE TIME FOR ONE MORE.

WHO ELSE WANTS TO WAVE IT? MAYBE.

MAYBE SOMEONE FROM FROM THE BACK THERE.

THEY'RE ALL REALLY QUIET, BUT YOU SEEM REALLY ATTENTIVE, SO.

YES. BOTH NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE.

SIMILAR. WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HIRING AND RECRUITMENT AND HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TURNED DOWN POSITIONS AND HOW MANY HAVE LEFT WITHIN A YEAR, I JUST CAUTION PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS LOOK AT THAT AS A NEGATIVE.

SO THERE'S A REASON THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE SEND OUR POLICE RECRUITS THROUGH A POLICE ACADEMY, BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE IS CUT OUT TO PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WE EXPECT AT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, THE SAME WE DO WITH DISPATCH TRAINING AND OTHER TRAINING.

SO SOME OF THOSE LOSSES DON'T LOOK AT THEM AS A NEGATIVE.

SOME OF THOSE ARE POSITIVE.

WE MAY HAVE SAVED OURSELVES A LAWSUIT OR SENT SOMEBODY TO A SOMEPLACE ELSE WHERE THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE LOWER.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY SHARING WITH.

CAUSE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE LIKE, WHY ARE WE APPLAUDING? WE'RE APPLAUDING THE POSITIVE AND WE'RE APPLAUDING THE FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE.

SO LET'S LET'S BUILD FROM THERE.

LET'S CONTINUE THE MOMENTUM AND LET'S KEEP MOVING FORWARD.

SO NEXT UP.

IS. UH NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS.

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UH, THIS IS UPDATES.

UH, OUR SERVICE PARTNER REQUEST PROCESS.

THANK YOU. EVERYONE ENJOYED LUNCH.

EXCEPT FOR, UM.

RICK ASKED ME. BEGGED ME.

TO TELL A BUDGET RIDDLE.

A BUDGET RIDDLE, RIDDLE.

I'LL DROP IT IN THE CHAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER RIGHT AWAY.

AND OF COURSE, MOST OF YOU KNOW I LOVE TO DO THIS, SO THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME.

YOU READY? CHICKEN WAS GIVEN $7.

AN ANT WAS GIVEN $21.

A SPIDER WAS GIVEN $28.

HOW MUCH MONEY WAS THE DOG GIVEN? OKAY. YOU GET TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

I'LL PUT IT IN THE CHAT AND THEN WE CAN GET BACK.

YEAH. YOU SAID THE DOG.

DOG? GIVE ME THE NUMBERS AGAIN.

SEVEN. OKAY.

A CHICKEN WAS GIVEN $7.

AN ANT WAS GIVEN 21.

A SPIDER WAS GIVEN 28.

HOW MUCH MONEY WAS THE DOG? AND IT WAS A DOG. BECAUSE THE EGG.

THE CHICKEN. CANCER TO COME.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING ME.

YES. UM, SO WE'RE HERE JUST TO PROVIDE A VERY HIGH LEVEL REVIEW OF A UPCOMING SERVICE PARTNER REQUEST FORM APPLICATION, IF YOU WILL.

UM, MANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY BE FAMILIAR THAT OVER THE YEARS, THE CITY HAS GIVEN MONIES TO SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND WHILE, UM, THIS IS NOT A STANDARD, UM, OPEN PROCESS LIKE A GRANT OR SOME TYPE OF REBATE, WE DO SEE THAT SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS ARE ASKING THE CITY FOR HELP.

AND WITH THAT IN MIND, WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO CREATE A MORE STRUCTURED PROCESS THAT HAS CONSISTENCY TO IT, UM, THAT IS MORE ACCESSIBLE AND EQUITABLE.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REALLY CREATE A CLEAR AND AS I SAID, CONSISTENT PROCESS.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS BETTER ALIGNED WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY RECALL THAT WE HAVE SEEN REQUESTS COME VERY LATE IN THE FISCAL YEAR, RIGHT BEFORE BUDGET IS ABOUT TO BE CARRIED ACROSS.

THE FINISH LINE THAT HAS A LOT OF, UM, ADDS A LOT OF STRESS, UH, WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION, UH, FOR STAFF TO GET THINGS MOVING FORWARD, TO ENSURE THAT THAT COMMUNITY, THE INFORMATION IS COMMUNICATED EFFECTIVELY TO THE COUNCIL AND SO FORTH.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT CAN HANDLE ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT'S BEING PUT INTO, AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, AT SIX MONTHS OF BUDGET. UM, WE ALSO WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A PROCESS THAT BETTER ALIGNS WITH PBB AND, UM, RECOGNIZING ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO PBB WILL CONTINUE TO GO INTO PBB, AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'VE GOT ALIGNMENT THAT IS EMBEDDED IN A SERVICE ORGANIZATION APPLICATION. AND THEN WE WANT TO PUT SOME MORE CONTEXT TO THE REQUESTS.

UM, WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST A VARIETY OF REQUESTS.

THEY CAN COME IN THROUGH AN EMAIL.

THEY CAN COME IN THROUGH PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AT THE COUNCIL.

SO WE WANT TO CREATE SOME MORE STRUCTURE.

AND THEN WE WANT TO ALSO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE WITH CITY FUNDING.

AND THEN WE WANT TO ASK FOR INCREASED ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THE FUND RECIPIENTS.

SO AN ACTUAL REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL OF THOSE IMPACTS.

WE ALSO WANT TO PUT THE ONUS ON THE RECIPIENTS TO STATE WHAT THOSE.

AND AS I NOTED, WE WILL DIVE INTO THIS IN A LOT MORE DETAIL IN FEBRUARY.

SO WE REALLY JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A FLAVOR OF WHAT IS TO COME.

AND THIS SLIDE WILL JUST GIVE YOU A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE TABLE OF CONTENTS.

AND JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CONVERSATION, WE WILL, AS I SAID, CREATE A STRUCTURE AROUND THIS PROCESS TO BETTER ALIGN WITH WITH OUR BUDGET TIMELINE.

AND SO WE WILL HAVE AN APPLICATION DEADLINE AND REVIEW TIMELINE.

UM, WE WILL HAVE A COMPONENT THAT HIGHLIGHTS ELIGIBILITY AND REQUIREMENTS.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT ALIGNING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S MISSION OR THE CITY'S MISSION, VISION AND ORGANIZATIONAL VALUES.

AND THEN OF COURSE, PBB, WE WILL HAVE AN APPLICATION THAT IS FORMALLY SUBMITTED.

AND THEN WE WILL HAVE INFORMATION THAT'S LIKE THE ACCEPTANCE OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS.

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UM, THAT'S TO PROMOTE THAT CONSISTENCY.

AND WE HAVE BUILT THIS OFF OF A NUMBER OF GRANT PROGRAMS THAT EXIST IN, WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION, UM, OUR FRIENDS IN BEAUTIFICATION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUSTAINABILITY GRANTS. SO WE'VE LEARNED A LOT OVER THE YEARS AND THESE OFFERINGS TO BRING THOSE OVER INTO THE SERVICE APPLICATION.

WE ALSO WORKED WITH OUR FRIENDS IN HOUSING BECAUSE THEY DISTRIBUTE FUNDING SOURCES.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE THE BEST PRACTICES FROM ALL OF THESE AREAS WITHIN YOUR ORGANIZATION AND PROVIDE SOME CONSISTENCY.

UM, WITH THAT, RICK, DID I MISS ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD BEFORE WE ASK THE SLIDES? THE ANSWER TO THE JOKE? WELL, YEAH, THAT THAT STILL COMES LATER.

UH, NO.

THIS IS A GREAT TEAM EFFORT.

UM, NICOLE REALLY HELPED US KICK THIS OFF WITH HER TEAM DEVELOPING THIS APPLICATION.

IT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE. EVERY YEAR WE GET THESE HITS LIKE, HEY, CAN YOU FUND THIS? CAN YOU FUND THAT? IT'S HARD TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL AND SAY THEY ASKED FOR FUNDING WITHOUT REALLY THE BACKGROUND TO IT.

AND YOU'VE ASKED GOOD QUESTIONS.

WHEN WE BRING THINGS FORWARD WHAT'S THEIR FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO BRINGING THIS ALL TOGETHER IS ONE I THINK WILL HELP YOU HELP US AS WE GO FORWARD AND WRITE CONTRACTS FOR THESE PEOPLE.

UM, BUT A GREAT EFFORT.

NICOLE PATRICK BROWN FROM PURCHASING.

WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROCURING SOFTWARE.

UH, JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY ASKS FOR FUNDING, SOMEBODY ELSE COULD DO THE SAME WORK.

SO WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING PROCUREMENT.

RIGHT. SO HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS AS WELL AS WE'RE, UH, BOUNCING IT OFF LEGAL TEAM TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALIGNING WITH OUR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS OF SPENDING GOVERNMENT FUNDS.

SO, UH, IT'S BEEN A GREAT EFFORT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THIS OUT THERE.

SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE MORE TIME IN FEBRUARY.

UM, JUST FINISHING, YOU KNOW, CROSSING ALL T'S AND DOTTING ALL I'S WITH LEGAL AND PROCUREMENT REVIEWS AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THE CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL. QUESTION TOGETHER.

SAID. OKAY, SO THESE FUNDS ARE COMING.

FROM WHERE? THESE. WE DON'T HAVE FUNDS SET ASIDE FOR THIS.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE ASKING THE COMMUNITY, HEY, ASK FOR FUNDS.

AND AND WE GOT A POT SET ASIDE.

THIS IS A TOOL FOR THOSE WHO DO COME DURING A BUDGET PROCESS SOMETHING AND DOES ASK.

AND THEN IT COMES TO APRIL WHEN WE BRING THESE FORWARD FOR YOU TO COUNCIL DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO OBLIGATE FUNDS ON THIS.

WE DON'T SET ASIDE FUNDS FOR THIS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS IN OUR ORGANIZATION, A LOT OF, UM, SPENT RESOURCES ALREADY.

SO THIS IS REALLY JUST THAT TOOL TO DECIDE IF BUDGETING IS ALLOCATED.

LET ME ADD ON TO THAT, I OUR HOPE IS ALSO THAT IT PROVIDES CONSISTENCY FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE DECISIONS TO SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE REVIEWING INFORMATION OR CONSIDERATIONS, THAT YOU'VE GOT THE SAME TYPE OF INFORMATION FROM EACH SERVICE ORGANIZATION.

WE KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE OUTLIERS.

ABSOLUTELY, BUT WE'RE HOPING TO CREATE A MORE STREAMLINED PROCESS THAT ALSO SUPPORTS THE COUNCIL BETTER.

THANK. RUSSIAN UM THE SERVICE PROVIDER.

OUR PARTNER REQUEST SO I KNOW ARE THESE THE.

ORGANIZATIONS THAT TRY TO SERVICE WITH IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE HUMANE SOCIETY OR SHELTER.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

AND SO MY OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I ASSUMED.

SO. ARE WE EXCLUDING BY NOT BECAUSE THINKING OF OF ONE THAT'S MAYBE THE ANIMAL SHELTERS MAY NOT FIT INTO HOW THEY ALIGN.

BUT YOU KNOW, THEY PROVIDE A COMMUNITY SERVICE.

AND SO I JUST DON'T WANT THEM TO NOT GET SCORED OR VALUED.

SO IT'S BUILT INTO THERE THAT THAT WOULD STILL, YOU KNOW, YES.

AND EVERYTHING WILL COME TO THE COUNCIL STAFF WILL NOT BE UM, ELIMINATING IF YOU WILL, APPLICATIONS.

BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHERE STAFF WILL, ON THE FRONT END, WORK WITH THESE SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS TO ENSURE THAT THEY FILL OUT THE APPLICATION WELL AND WITH AS MUCH APPROPRIATE INFORMATION THAT WILL THEN ALLOW THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT INFORMED DECISION.

AND IT ALSO INCLUDED TO SEE FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

HOW MANY'S AGREE OF THAT.

YEAH, YEAH. YOU HAVE THAT IN THERE AND WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS LIKE ARE YOU LEVERAGING FUNDS.

HAVE YOU RECEIVED FUNDS FROM THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IN THE PAST? DO YOU HAVE COMMUNITY PARTNERS? I'M REALLY TRYING TO GET THAT BIG PICTURE AND SEE HOW IT FITS INTO THAT.

SOLUTELY. OKAY, I HAVE A COMMENT, PLEASE.

YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT WE'VE EXPRESSED, I THINK THIS IS A WORTHY PURSUIT, BUT A RISK THAT COULD BE INHERENT IN THIS IS, AS WAS MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET, YOU KNOW, WE

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IT'S KIND OF FORMALIZES THE PROCESS AND MAY, IN THE EYES OF MANY, LOOK LIKE THE CITY'S OPENING UP AN APPLICATION PROCESS FOR ANY AND ALL.

UM, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING IN PLACE.

NEVERTHELESS, I THINK IT'S IS, UH, WORTHY TO HAVE SOME CRITERIA HERE, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED FUNDING FROM THE CITY.

BEAR IN MIND, TOO, THAT THE CITY, UH, ALLOCATES A LARGE SUM OF MONEY EACH YEAR TO UNITED WAY AND UNITED WAY AS THE ORGANIZATION DISTRIBUTES THAT MONEY TO NUMEROUS SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS.

UH, SO I THINK PART OF THE QUESTIONING COULD ALSO BE, YOU KNOW, DO YOU RECEIVE MONEY? HAVE YOU RECEIVED MONEY FROM THE CITY OR THROUGH INDIRECT MEANS? UH, THROUGH LIKE UNITED WAY OF NORTHERN ARIZONA THAT IS IN THERE, ISN'T THERE TO ASK, ARE YOU ALREADY RECEIVING INDIRECTLY CITY FUNDS OR FROM OTHER PARTNERS? YEAH, WE DO HAVE THAT.

I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT POINT.

UM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE, UM, UNLESS THEY'VE CHANGED, I HAVEN'T PURSUED UNITED WAY IN A LONG TIME, BUT THEY'RE VERY FOCUSED.

AND WHERE THEY GIVE THEIR DOLLARS, WHICH EXCLUDES THEN OTHERS THAT, YES, HAVE MORE OF A NEED BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ACCESS TO A LARGER ORGANIZATION LIKE THE UNITED WAY TO GIVE THEM MONEY BECAUSE THEY DON'T FIT INTO THEIR.

I THINK THEY HAVE LIKE THREE FOCUSES EDUCATION.

I FORGOT WHAT THEY WERE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT NEED IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, BUT THEY'RE STILL IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I'LL EXPECT SOME GUESSES TO THE RIDDLE IN THE CHAT.

I'M STUMPED. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE HAS HER GUESS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I'M SURE, AT THE END.

UM, SO WE HAD SET ASIDE ABOUT 45 MINUTES FOR THIS NEXT PIECE.

IT'S CONSIDERATION OF NEW CITY HOLIDAYS.

UH, GREG CLIFTON AND SHANNON ANDERSON, UH, WILL PRESENT.

UM, DEFINITELY.

I'M SURE THERE WILL BE SOME QUESTIONS THAT THAT COME OUT OF THIS ONE.

SO JUST KNOW WE DON'T WE'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME SO WE DON'T HAVE TO RUSH THROUGH THIS PIECE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DRAG IT ON EITHER.

BUT WE DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE TO RUSH.

NO APPLAUSE FOR THESE GUYS.

I FORGOT TO CUE YOU.

OKAY. THAT WAS GOOD.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. UM, SO WE THOUGHT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT WHAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTING FIRST BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT SOME NEW, UM, CONSIDERATIONS.

SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE ARE ALL OF THE CITY HOLIDAYS THAT WE OBSERVE, THE DAY THAT WE OBSERVE THEM, AS WELL AS THE FLOATING HOLIDAY.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT I'VE ONLY INCLUDED ONE FOR RIGHT NOW.

AS YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE CONSIDERING THAT ADDITIONAL HALF DAY, UM, WE'LL HAVE THE SECOND READ, UM, THIS TUESDAY.

AND SO DEPENDING ON THAT OUTCOME, THAT OBVIOUSLY WILL FLUCTUATE.

UM, WANTED TO ALSO SHARE WITH YOU THIS IS THE 2022 ARIZONA LEAGUE SURVEY.

UM, SO THIS IDENTIFIES FOR YOU HOW MANY OF THOSE CITIES AND TOWNS AND COUNTIES, UM, ARE RECOGNIZING.

SO THESE ARE OBSERVED HOLIDAYS THAT ARE PAID BY THE EMPLOYER.

UM, SO WE HAVE 11, INCLUDING OUR FLOATING HOLIDAY.

UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UH, MAJORITY OF THE CITIES ARE TYPICALLY AT THE 10 TO 11.

AND THEN YOU SEE ANOTHER SPIKE WITH THAT 12 HOLIDAYS, UM, WHERE WE HAVE 18 AGENCIES.

UM, THE VARIES JUST MEANS THAT, UM, THEY HAD MULTIPLE DIFFERENT ONES THAT THEY DID.

UM, IT WASN'T THE SAME FOR ALL OF THEIR EMPLOYEES.

AND SO IT WAS HARD FOR THEM TO SAY WE GIVE X AMOUNT BECAUSE IT VARIED BASED ON WHAT CLASS OF EMPLOYEES, UM, THOSE HOLIDAYS, UM, IMPACTED.

AND THERE WAS TEN THAT DIDN'T PARTICIPATE IN THIS PORTION.

GO AHEAD. WHO HAS 17? THAT'S MY QUESTION. YEAH.

OH GOSH. I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, UM, I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK BECAUSE I ACTUALLY SAY IT OUT LOUD, SO I'M JUST GOING TO APPLY.

THAT WASN'T AN ISSUE.

SO. I JUST DID TALLIES.

I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN THE NAMES.

I CERTAINLY CAN GO BACK TO THE SURVEY THOUGH AND LOOK FOR YOU.

UM, I'LL PUT IT IN THE CHAT.

UM, AND SO THIS IS OUR CONSIDERATION OF NEW CITY HOLIDAYS.

I THINK AS WE START TO TALK ABOUT THIS, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL TO KNOW, UM, IT COSTS THE CITY ABOUT $94,000 IF WE ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY

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UM, THE REASON THAT THERE'S A DIRECT COST IS BECAUSE WE ARE BACKFILLING TO MAKE SURE WE MEET OUR MINIMUM STAFFING, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A COMPENSATION RULE CALLED HOLIDAY TIME WORKED.

AND SO WHEN SOMEBODY IS WORKING, UH, THAT DAY, THEY GET A PREMIUM PAY FOR WORKING THOSE HOURS.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE PRODUCTIVITY THAT YOU LOSE FOR THAT DAY, UM, AS WELL.

BUT THAT APPROXIMATE 94,000 IS WHAT IT WOULD COST US IF WE DECIDED TO BE AN ACTUAL OBSERVED HOLIDAY.

ADD IT TO OUR LIST OF 11.

SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JUNETEENTH.

UM, MOST AGENCIES OBSERVE THIS ON JUNE 19TH.

UH, THIS WAS THE 11TH AMERICAN, UH, FEDERAL AMERICAN HOLIDAY ADDED IN 2021.

IT WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT HAD BEEN ADOPTED SINCE 1983.

WHAT WE'VE SEEN, UM, OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES DO IS THEY HAVE ADDED IT.

SO IT'S AN OBSERVED HOLIDAY FOR THEM.

UM, SOME HAVE SAYS WE RECOGNIZE THIS HOLIDAY, SO THEY MIGHT DO A PROCLAMATION.

UM, IN RECOGNITION AND OTHERS HAVE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL FLOATING HOLIDAY SO THAT EMPLOYEES CAN USE IT, UM, FOR THIS HOLIDAY OR ANOTHER THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO THEM.

UH, THE SECOND HOLIDAY THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AS AN ORGANIZATION IS INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY.

UM, THIS HAS A LITTLE BIT OF VARIATION.

SOME ARE OBSERVING IT ON OCTOBER 11TH, AND THEN OTHER AGENCIES ARE OBSERVING IT ON THE SECOND MONDAY IN OCTOBER.

UM, PRESIDENT BIDEN COMMEMORATED THIS WITH A PRESIDENTIAL PROCLAMATION IN 21.

UM, PRESIDENT OBAMA DESIGNATED THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING AS THE NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE DAY IN BY RESOLUTION IN 2009.

UM, AGAIN, SOME ORGANIZATIONS ARE CELEBRATING THIS IN COLUMBUS DAY.

UM, OTHERS HAVE FOLLOWED, UH, CHANGING THAT DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING, UM, TO A NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE DAY.

AND SO, AGAIN, WE'RE SEEING ORGANIZATIONS HANDLE THIS DIFFERENTLY DEPENDING ON WHAT WORKS FOR THEM IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT THE INDIGENOUS, UH, COMMISSION, UM, IT'S VERY STRONGLY AGAINST THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING.

IT HAD A LOT OF NEGATIVE, UM, TIES TO IT.

AND, UM, BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED ALL THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE, AND THEY DID NOT WANT THAT DAY OF REMEMBRANCE AND REFLECTION TIED TO BLACK FRIDAY TO BE THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING, WHICH IS NOT A THANKSGIVING TO THEM.

UM, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT THAT WAS NOT YET, UH, OUR GROUP WOULD.

THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

SO THOSE ARE THE BACKGROUNDS, UH, BEHIND THE TWO HOLIDAYS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED BY THE.

AND THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF OPTIONS FOR US TO DO.

WE CAN CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE THROUGH PROCLAMATION, THROUGH CELEBRATIONS AND EVENTS.

UM, WE COULD DECIDE TO ADD IT TO ONE OF THE OBSERVED DAYS.

WE COULD DECIDE THAT WE DO A FLOATING HOLIDAY TOYS AGAIN, USE IT AT THE TIME THAT THEY FEEL IS MOST IMPORTANT AND MEANINGFUL FOR THEM.

THERE'S VARIOUS OPTIONS.

GO AHEAD. MAYOR. UM, LOGISTICALLY, HOW DOES IT WORK FOR THE CITY OR FOR DIFFERENT, UM, DIVISIONS IF YOU HAVE A FLOATING HOLIDAY VERSUS AN ALL OBSERVED HOLIDAY? UM, SO THERE COULD BE SOME SIMILARITIES IN THE FACT IF THEY HAVE TO BACKFILL, UM, FOR MINIMUM STAFFING.

BUT THE BENEFIT IS IT'S NOT ALL NOT EVERYONE.

IT'S NOT HAPPENING ON THE SAME DAY.

UM, SO ONE PERSON MIGHT TAKE FLOATING HOLIDAY FOR JUNETEENTH, ANOTHER ONE MIGHT TAKE IT FOR INDIGENOUS DAY, ANOTHER ONE MIGHT TAKE IT FOR A DIFFERENT, UM, HOLIDAY.

THAT, AGAIN, IS MEANINGFUL FOR THEM.

AND SO OFTENTIMES WHEN IT'S A FLOATING HOLIDAY, YOU HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE YOU'RE ABLE TO PLAN FOR YOUR MINIMUM STAFFING BECAUSE IT'S ALL HAPPENING ON THE SAME DAY.

UM, SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE SAME COST, UM, AS WHEN WE DECIDE TO CLOSE OUR ORGANIZATION AND OUR OPERATIONS.

AND, UM, IF WE SELECT A DAY THAT IS ALSO A FEDERAL HOLIDAY, IF AN EMPLOYEE WORKS ON THAT DAY, THEN ARE THEY PAID TIME AND A HALF OR BECAUSE WE HAVE FLOATING HOLIDAYS, WOULD THEY JUST RECEIVE REGULAR PAY? SO IF IT'S A FLOATING HOLIDAY, IT'S NOT CONSIDERED HOLIDAY TIME WORK.

SO NOT THE TIME AND A HALF BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL OBSERVED DAY.

UM, SO SO FOR IF WE OBSERVE JUNE 19TH AS JUNE WOULD HAVE THE OBSERVED DAY, SO ANYONE WHO WORKED THAT DAY WOULD GET TIME AND

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THAT HOLIDAY TIME WORKED.

THAT'S WHAT WE CALL IT HERE.

UM, IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S A FEDERALLY DESIGNATED HOLIDAY.

IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE IDENTIFIED IT AS AN OBSERVED HOLIDAY IN OUR LIST.

UM, IF IT WAS A FLOATING HOLIDAY, WE TAKE IT WHEN WE WANT.

AND SO THERE IS NOT NECESSARILY THAT HOLIDAY TIME WORKED BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN OBSERVED DAY.

UM, BUT THERE COULD STILL BE MAYBE OVERTIME IF WE NEEDED TO PAY SOMEONE TO COME IN IN ORDER TO MEET OUR MINIMUM STAFFING.

DOES THAT HELP DIFFERENTIATE? YES. AND THE 94,000 COST.

THIS IS FOR AN OBSERVED HOLIDAY AND THAT INCLUDES TIME AND A HALF AND AND BACKFILL.

OKAY. SO, SO DO WE AS A CITY OBSERVE EVERY FEDERAL HOLIDAY.

AS AN EXAMPLE. I'M SORRY.

AS AN EXAMPLE, WE DO NOT OBSERVE COLUMBUS DAY.

COLUMBUS DAY IS STILL A FEDERAL HOLIDAY.

UH. AND THAT, IF I MAY ADD A COMMENT ON TO THAT.

UM, ONE OF THE OPTIONS HERE WITH RESPECT TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY IS RECOGNIZING THAT SOME CELEBRATE IT IN LIEU OF COLUMBUS DAY.

WELL, COLUMBUS DAY BEING A FEDERAL HOLIDAY, WE STILL SEE A LOT OF BANKS CLOSE.

FEDERAL INSTITUTIONS, OF COURSE.

UH, SO I THINK THERE'S SOME CONSIDERATION TO BE HAD OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING A CITY RECOGNIZED HOLIDAY WHEN OTHER INSTITUTIONS ARE LIKEWISE CLOSED. BUT TO DATE, WE HAVE NOT WE DO NOT RECOGNIZE THAT.

THE OTHER COMMENT I'LL ADD, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE MORE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS, IS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE FLOATING HOLIDAY, BUT ONE CONSIDERATION IS THAT A FLOATING HOLIDAY CERTAINLY IS BENEFICIAL TO THE ORGANIZATION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HAVING AN OBSERVED DAY, AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ISSUES THAT SHANNON WAS DESCRIBING.

BUT ON THE DOWNSIDE, IT, UH, ARGUABLY TAKES AWAY THE MEANING OF THE HOLIDAY, UH, THAT IT THAT WAS INITIALLY INTENDED TO BE RECOGNIZED.

PEOPLE WHO ENJOY FLOATING HOLIDAYS DON'T ALWAYS ATTRIBUTE THEM TO ANY RECOGNITION OF ANYTHING.

UH, IT'S JUST A HOLIDAY.

AND OVER TIME, IT MAY GET A LITTLE BIT DILUTED AS TO WHY THAT HOLIDAY EXISTS.

UH, SO IF SOME OF THE REASONS HAVE BEEN ADVANCED BY COUNCIL AND WE WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF COUNCIL, I BELIEVE IN UNDERLYING INTENTIONS HERE TO RECOGNIZE THE DAY AND THE REASONING FOR DAY.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT ON THE TABLE AS WELL FOR CONSIDERATION.

THANKS. IT'S, UH, MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY, A, UH, CITY RECOGNIZED HOLIDAY.

YES. YEAH.

AND THE FEDERAL FEDERAL HOLIDAY AS WELL.

READ IT ALL. OKAY.

YES. GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT WAS UP BEFORE I ASKED. CHECK.

ONE MORE THING. JUST IN THE DISCUSSIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE, THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, AS FAR AS INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY, UM, THE DESIRE WAS TO HAVE NOT JUST A PROCLAMATION, BUT AN ACTUAL FOCUSED DAY OF REFLECTION, REMEMBRANCE.

AND SO THAT WAS THE, UM, THE DESIRE AND THE HEART TO BRING THAT FORWARD.

I JUST WANT TO ADD AND COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, DID THEY HAVE A PREFERENCE ON THAT OCTOBER 11TH OR THE SECOND DAY IN OCTOBER? YOU KNOW, I KEEP LOOKING TO SEE IF ROSE POPS IN, BUT, UM, AND I SPOKE TO ROSE ABOUT BRINGING THIS TO COUNCIL.

IT WAS THE, UM, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THE SECOND MONDAY.

UM, BUT I COULD BE VERY WRONG ON THAT.

UM. GOOD AFTERNOON.

THIS IS ROSE. IT IS THE SECOND MONDAY IN OCTOBER.

THANK YOU. ROSE.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE STERLING.

YEAH. BEHIND THE CURTAIN.

ROSE, HAVE I MISREPRESENTED IN ANY WAY.

BECAUSE I KNOW YOU KNOW YOU HAVEN'T YOU? YOU'VE DELIVERED THE MESSAGE FROM THE INDIGENOUS COMMISSION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'LL THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE, AND I MAY GET A LOT OF, UH, ARGUMENT ON THIS, BUT IT WOULD SEEM THAT MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY.

JUNETEENTH ARE SOME SIMILARITIES.

THEY'RE NOT. OKAY, I'LL JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE.

SO IT MIGHT BE, IN FACT, TWO HOLIDAYS TO CELEBRATE KIND OF THE SAME THING.

DISCUSSION. I COULD GIVE YOU A HISTORY LESSON, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO SAVE.

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THANK YOU FOR ASKING ME TO DO MATH IN MY HEAD.

ARE YOU ASKING FOR DIRECTION? UM. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO PUT IT OUT ON THE TABLE AND SEE WHERE COUNCIL IS.

I MEAN, I BELIEVE BOTH THESE.

ARE THEY FAIR REQUESTS? UM, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE DIRECTION TODAY, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO HONOR THAT FAIR REQUEST AND BRING THEM BACK TO THE DAIS.

UH, BUT. IT'S, THERE'S THERE'S TWO REQUESTS THAT BOTH EQUATE TO A CITY HOLIDAY.

THERE'S A BUDGETARY CONSIDERATION AND ALL THESE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS WE'RE PUTTING OUT ON THE TABLE.

SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET SOME DIRECTION, SAY GO FOR IT.

FOR BOTH OF THEM. I THINK THEY'RE BOTH APPROPRIATE AND CITY RECOGNIZED HOLIDAYS.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

HIS COMMENT THAT THIS KIND OF TIES INTO THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEE RETENTION.

UH, MAYBE YOU WANT TO COMMENT TO THAT.

IF OUR EMPLOYEES GET ANOTHER TWO DAYS OFF A YEAR, THAT MIGHT MAKE THEM HAPPIER.

YES. BUT, UH, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO MY EARLIER COMMENTS AND EMPHASIZE I.

WE DON'T WANT TO COUCH THIS IN TERMS OF AN EMPLOYEE BENEFIT, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A GENUINE EMPLOYEE BENEFIT.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLOSURE OF CITY OPERATIONS FOR A DAY.

THE SIGNIFICANCE BEHIND THESE IS HONORING THE.

THE UNDERLYING EVENT BEING INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.

AND AND AS A REMINDER, WE HAVE HAD INDIGENOUS DAY CELEBRATIONS.

BUT UM, AND WE'VE HAD PROCLAMATIONS AND THEY HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL.

UM, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN A RECOGNIZED HOLIDAY, AND THIS HAS TAKEN IT TO THAT LEVEL.

AND OF COURSE, JUNETEENTH WITH WITH ITS HISTORY.

UH, SAME COMMENT AND THAT ONE NOW A FEDERAL HOLIDAY.

SO, UH, I JUST DON'T WANT TO, AGAIN, DILUTE THE REASON THAT THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, WHICH IS ABOUT RECOGNIZING THESE TWO IMPORTANT EVENTS.

OTHER THOUGHTS.

SLUMBER HOUSE DID PUT SOME COMMENTS IN THE CHAT AND IF I PLEASE READ THOSE.

UM, THANK YOU ROSE, AND THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER FOR THAT POINT.

ON FLOATING HOLIDAYS.

I INTRODUCED THE FAIR ON JUNETEENTH.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

NO, JUNETEENTH AND MLK DAY ARE NOT THE SAME.

WE'RE CELEBRATING THE SAME THING.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE MY DESIRE TO SEE IT RECOGNIZED AS A CITY HOLIDAY.

NOT TO GET OVERTLY SOCIAL ON THIS, BUT I THINK THE COST THAT WAS PAID BY THE SOULS RECOGNIZED ON JUNETEENTH OUTWEIGHS THE BUDGETARY COST OF RECOGNIZING THAT LOST.

I AGREE WITH VICE MAYOR, AND I WOULD LIKE TO STATE MY UNEQUIVOCAL SUPPORT FOR BOTH OFFICIAL CITY HOLIDAYS.

THANK YOU FOR READING THAT.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER NOTE I'M ALWAYS FOR.

THIS DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT ME AND THE ROLE THAT I HAVE HERE AT THE CITY, BUT I'M ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF ANOTHER HOLIDAY.

I THINK OUR STAFF AND OUR LEADERSHIP AND ALL OF OUR CREW WORK VERY HARD.

THEY DESERVE THE EXTRA TIME OFF.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE A HUSTLE CULTURE.

WE JUST WANT TO DO AN HONEST DAY'S WORK FOR AN HONEST DAY'S PAY AND GET THE JOB DONE, AND MAYBE RELAX A LITTLE BIT DURING.

DURING THE 365 DAYS WE HAVE EACH YEAR.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES.

UM, I JUST HOPE NO ONE WAS OFFENDED BY MY DISCUSSION ITEM.

UM, I JUST BROUGHT IT OUT.

THINKING OUT LOUD, YOU KNOW, AND IN THE SPIRIT OF, UH, BRAINSTORMING, ALL I GOOD IDEAS SHOULD BE PUT ON THE TABLE TO BE DISCUSSED.

SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS, UH, I WOULD SUPPORT BOTH OF THESE HOLIDAYS, AND I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR OTHERS.

I DON'T BELIEVE OFFENSE WAS WAS TAKEN.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WASN'T TAKEN THAT WAY.

RIGHT? NO, I DON'T THINK EITHER ONE OF US TOOK THAT AS AN, UH, AS AN OFFENSE.

UH, IT JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW MUCH WE DON'T TEACH HISTORY, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO THAT'S.

YEAH, BUT I WOULD SUPPORT BOTH DAYS.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. SO IF, UM, IF JUNETEENTH FALLS ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, WOULD WE DO, LIKE, OTHER HOLIDAYS AND TAKE THE FRIDAY OR THE MONDAY? YEAH. THESE ARE, UH, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE LIST? UH. WE'LL SEE.

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MANY ARE DESIGNATED MONDAY.

THOSE THAT ARE CALENDAR DAY IN THANKSGIVING, OF COURSE, BEING THE, UH, FOURTH THURSDAY.

BUT THE CALENDAR DAY, SHOULD IT FALL ON A WEEKEND, WE GO TO THE DAY BEFORE OR DAY AFTER, DEPENDING ON WHETHER IT'S A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT OTHER SLIDE? FAVORITE SLIDE? THAT'S FINE.

I CAN SAY THAT IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW.

THIS LIST IS JUST FOR DISCUSSION.

I WOULD THINK THE SECOND MONDAY WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER THAN A GIVEN DATE.

WHAT WAS REQUESTED FOR INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY? YES. AND THE REASON IS, IS YOU DON'T HAVE THIS DEAL ABOUT, WELL, WHAT IF IT HAPPENS ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY? AND THE OTHER THING IS, IN REALITY, I MEAN, IT'S.

JUST BACKPACKING.

I LOVE TO GET A THREE DAY WEEKEND AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A TUESDAY OFF OR SOMETHING.

YEAH. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S, UH, VERY, UM, COMPELLING TO THE DISCUSSION, BUT IT ALSO OCCURRED TO ME WHEN I WAS GLANCING AT THIS THAT WE DO NOT THERE IS NOT A CELEBRATED HOLIDAY IN JUNE UP UNTIL NOW.

AND NOW WE HAVE A FEDERAL HOLIDAY, UH, BEING JUNETEENTH, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING IT A CITY HOLIDAY.

UH, UNLESS I'M SKIPPING SOMETHING, I THINK, UH, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST RECOGNIZED HOLIDAY IN JUNE AND A SIMILAR COMMENT IN OCTOBER.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT RELEVANCE THAT HAS OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW.

THE HOLIDAYS ARE NICELY DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE CALENDAR YEAR.

ANYWAY, MY MAJOR POINT IS PEOPLE CAN GET A THREE DAY WEEKEND AS OPPOSED TO THURSDAY OFF OR SOMETHING.

I THINK THAT HAS A LOT OF ADVANTAGES.

SO I'M I'M GOING TO RETHINK MY ORIGINAL COMMENT ABOUT NOT HAVING TIME.

SO GIVE ME 30S.

SO JUNETEENTH, JUNE 19TH IS THE DAY THAT, UM, THE GENERAL CAME INTO GALVESTON, GALVESTON, TEXAS, TO LET, UH, THE SLAVES IN THAT STATE KNOW THAT THEY HAD BEEN FREE FOR EXACTLY ALMOST 2 OR 3 YEARS.

AND SO THAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE.

PEOPLE WERE STILL BEING ENSLAVED, EVEN THOUGH OTHERS KNEW THAT THEY WERE FREE, ACCORDING TO LINCOLN'S PROCLAMATION INFORMING PEOPLE.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S A REALLY BIG, UH, ISSUE, YOU KNOW? SO ANYWAY, JUST A LITTLE YOU CAN ALWAYS GO OUT THERE AND GOOGLE AND READ MORE.

BUT GOOD HISTORY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SHARING.

COUNCILMAN ATTEND EVENTS.

OH YEAH, I DID EVENTS.

YEAH. THIS, UM, TOPIC RIGHT NOW HAS A LOT OF BEARING ON THE ORGANIZATION AND FOR ALL THE REASONS STATED.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE ANY OF THE LEADERSHIP OUT THERE, OR ANYBODY WHO HAS THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, PLEASE SPEAK UP.

AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.

I THOUGHT THIS WOULD TAKE AT LEAST 45 MINUTES AND WE SEEM TO BE SAILING RIGHT ALONG.

THANK YOU FOR INDULGING US.

STACEY SAYS WITH A SMILE.

I ONLY HAVE ONE SLIDE.

SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MORE CITY HOLIDAYS? WHAT DO YOU GET TO TALK ABOUT? OH, CHARTER.

OH THANK YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO I WAS ASKED TO KIND OF GO OVER A LITTLE BIT, UH, THE RESULTS OF OUR CHARTER ELECTION.

UM, WE HAD 19 QUESTIONS THAT WERE ADVANCED TO THE VOTERS BACK IN NOVEMBER.

QUITE A HEFTY NUMBER, UH, TO PUT OUT THERE.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT 12 OF THOSE 19 WERE SUCCESSFUL AND PASSED BY THE VOTERS.

UM, THOSE AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO THE GOVERNOR FOR THEIR REVIEW AND ULTIMATE SIGN OFF.

UM, ONCE WE GET THAT, UM, CONFIRMATION AND SIGN OFF BY THE GOVERNOR, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UM, ENACT ESSENTIALLY THOSE CHANGES TO OUR CHARTER.

SO I WANTED TO JUST REVIEW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EACH OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE, UM, APPROVED.

SO THE FIRST, I THINK, IS ELECTED OFFICIALS.

YOU'LL, UM, HOPEFULLY APPRECIATE THIS FLEXIBILITY, BUT IT HAD TO DO WITH THE SIGNATURE REQUIREMENTS FOR COUNCIL NOMINATION.

UM, AND WHAT THIS ESSENTIALLY IS GOING TO DO IS GOING TO ADD THE ABILITY OF A, OF A COUNCIL TO, UM, PASS AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL.

REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES NEEDED TO 1000, RATHER THAN THAT 5% THAT IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED IN STATE LAW.

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SO THAT WAS APPROVED.

UM, PROPOSITION 462 HAD TO DO WITH UM PURCHASES AND CONTRACTS.

THERE WERE A FEW CHANGES WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR SECTION, BUT THE BIG ONE THAT CAME OUT OF THIS IS INCREASING OUR PURCHASING THRESHOLD, UM, FROM 50,000 TO 100,000.

UM, SO I KNOW OUR FOLKS IN PURCHASING OUR, UM, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

UM, I THINK IT WILL GIVE US A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY, UM, WITHIN OUR ACQUIRING OF GOODS AND SERVICES.

PROPOSITION 464.

UM, ALSO WAS, UH, FOCUSED ON OUR PROCUREMENT PRACTICES.

UM, THIS, UM, PARTICULAR CHANGE REALLY BROUGHT SOME CONTINUITY TO OUR PURCHASING PRACTICES.

UM, IT BROUGHT THEM IN LINE WITH BEST PRACTICES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.

UM, AND IT REALLY CLEANED UP SOME OF THE LANGUAGE WITHIN OUR CHARTER, UH, TO BE MORE REFLECTIVE OF THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESSES THAT WE USE. UM, SO THE WAY THAT THIS.

THE WAY THAT OUR CHARTER WAS INITIALLY SET, UH, REALLY FOCUSED ON THE BID PROCUREMENT METHOD.

UM, AND THAT IS A COMPONENT OF, OF OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESSES.

BUT THERE WAS A LOT MORE, UM, ENCOMPASSING, UH, THE, THE TOOLS THAT WE USE IN PROCUREMENT.

AND SO BY KIND OF BROADENING THE LANGUAGE WITHIN OUR CHARTER, IT GIVES US A LOT OF COMFORT IN KNOWING THAT WE CAN UTILIZE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT METHODS, UM, AND STAY WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR CHARTER.

UH, PROPOSITION FOR 65 UM, RELATED TO LEASES AND SALE OF REAL CITY PROPERTY.

SO THE WAY OUR CHARTER WAS INITIALLY SET UP, UM, THIS PROVISION OR THIS SECTION OF THE CHARTER FOCUSED ON ALL CITY PROPERTIES.

AND SO WE FELT THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEPARATE REAL CITY PROPERTY FROM, UM.

PERSONAL PROPERTY.

SO REAL CITY PROPERTY TAX, THAT IS PHYSICAL LAND, ITS BUILDINGS LAND AS OPPOSED TO SELLING THINGS OFF SUCH AS COMPUTERS OR EXTRA EQUIPMENT.

AND SO THIS PROVISION, UM, MARRIED A COUPLE OF SECTIONS WITHIN OUR CHARTER TO, AGAIN, REALLY FOCUS ON REAL PROPERTY AND KIND OF CLARIFY THINGS, UM, IN OUR PRACTICES.

YES. GO AHEAD. I KNOW IT'S OF INTEREST, SO I'LL ASK IT.

THE FOUR 60 ONE, THE COUNCIL NOMINATION NUMBERS.

RIGHT. THE PETITION.

SO IT WILL TAKE AN ORDINANCE BY THE COUNCIL TO NOT DOWN TO A THOUSAND SIGNATURES.

PURPOSES BUT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE.

THAT IS CORRECT IN THE LAST ELECTION.

MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT.

IT WAS 1604 SIGNATURES.

1602. THANK YOU.

ARE YOU SURE? COUNCILMAN? I'M SURE A LOT YOU KNOW TOO.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM. MECHANICALLY, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE COME.

I'M ALREADY THINKING NOW FOR THE 2024 ELECTION.

UH, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LATE IN THE GAME, OF COURSE, AND THAT WAS INEVITABLE.

BUT IS THERE A DOWNSIDE? IT'S GOING TO BE A POLICY DECISION BY THE COUNCIL AND WE NEED TO SLATE THAT.

BUT HOW SOON? SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

SOON. ABSOLUTELY.

SO THE BIG PIECE ON THAT IS WAITING FOR APPROVAL FROM THE GOVERNOR.

UM, THIS WE WE REALLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL WE GET THAT THAT PIECE.

I AM HOPING I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT WE MIGHT GET THAT SIGN OFF IN JANUARY.

UM, WHICH WOULD ULTIMATELY MEAN IF I BROUGHT FORWARD AN ORDINANCE FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

UM, IN TERMS OF THE THE 2024 ELECTION, AGAIN, AS YOU KNOW, WITH ORDINANCES, THERE'S A 30 DAY WAITING PERIOD.

SO WE WOULD BE COMING REALLY CLOSE TO THAT APRIL TIMELINE IN WHICH SIGNATURES ARE REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED TO MY OFFICE.

UM, SO THERE'S A SLIGHT POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD ENACT THAT BEFORE THAT APRIL DATE.

UM, BUT I GUESS TO BE.

IT'S JUST. IT'S HARD TO KNOW.

HARD TO KNOW THE NUMBER NOW.

1131. YEAH, SURE.

SO IT IS JUST SLIGHTLY ABOVE THAT 1000 THRESHOLD, I THINK, WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS, ADVANTAGEOUS FOR CANDIDATES WILL BE IN THAT.

26. UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE TEND TO HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER VOTER TURNOUT FOR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS.

UM, SO THAT'S GOING TO CERTAINLY PLAY INTO THE 2026 NUMBERS.

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I ANSWER GOT A QUESTION? GOD ANSWERED. OKAY, GREAT.

ANY REASON TO BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY SNAFUS OR SNAGS IN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ON ANY OF THESE? I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THERE WOULD BE, UM.

UM, I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE NOT.

OKAY. UM, SO FOR 66, UM, HAD TO DO WITH CONTRACT PREPARATIONS.

UM, THIS FOCUSED ON, AGAIN, REALLY BRINGING THE LANGUAGE ABOUT OUR CONTRACTING, OUR, OUR PROCUREMENT, UM, AND BRINGING THAT IN LINE WITH, UM, THE, THE MOST PROPER NOMENCLATURE AND ALLOWING US THE ABILITY TO, UM, ENCOMPASS ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT METHODS THAT WE USE.

WE'RE GETTING MUCH MORE INTO THE KIND OF CLEANUP PROVISIONS, IF YOU WILL, WITHIN OUR CHARTER.

UH, FOR 72 FOCUSED ON FRANCHISE ELECTIONS, THIS, UM, BROUGHT THE DATES, UM, THAT I AM REQUIRED TO UPHOLD FOR CALLING A FRANCHISE ELECTION, UM, INTO COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.

OUR CHARTER, AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW, UM, ONLY REQUIRED A 30 DAY NOTICE.

I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY WOULD BE TOO HAPPY WITH ME IF I CAME TO THEM AND SAID, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ELECTION IN 30 DAYS.

UM, SO THIS JUST BROUGHT IT IN LINE WITH THE STATE STATUTES THAT, UM, HAS A VERY MUCH LONGER, UM, NOTIFICATION PERIOD.

UH 474 FOCUSED ON OUR TAXATION.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE REALLY CLARIFIED THAT OUR TAXES ARE A MATTER OF LOCAL CONCERN.

WE, YOU KNOW, YOU AS A COUNCIL HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UM, CONTROL HOW YOU WANT TO TAX CITIZENS.

UM, AND IT REALLY ALSO.

CLARIFIED, UM, THE WAY THAT WE DO COLLECT TAXES, THE WAY THAT WE LEVY THEM, UM, ARE CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW.

UM, SO 475 GOES BACK TO THAT PERSONAL PROPERTY VERSUS REAL PROPERTY.

UM, SO WITH THE CHANGES THAT CAME WITH THE REAL PROPERTY, UM, THE, THE CLARIFICATIONS WITHIN THE PERSONAL PROPERTY KIND OF MOVED THAT LANGUAGE AROUND.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ALSO INCREASED THE, UM, THRESHOLD OF VALUE BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE TO, UM.

BASICALLY IT ALLOWS STAFF TO SELL PERSONAL PROPERTY.

SO AGAIN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPUTERS, VEHICLES, UM, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE VALUED IN EXCESS OF $1,000.

UM. IF IT IS LESS THAN $1,000.

MR. TATTER, AS THE CITY'S TREASURER, UM, CAN AUTHORIZE THE SALE AND OR DISPOSAL OF THAT PROPERTY.

UM, 476.

UM, THIS IS ANOTHER CLEANUP.

UM, IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, ADOPTION BY REFERENCE.

SO, UM, WHEN WE HAVE ORDINANCES THAT ARE APPROVING SOMETHING THAT WAS DECLARED AS A PUBLIC RECORD, UM, THE WAY THAT OUR CHARTER WAS WRITTEN, IT REQUIRED ME TO KEEP THREE COPIES OF THAT PUBLIC RECORD, UM, WHICH IS, UH, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STORAGE SPACE OF PHYSICAL RECORDS.

SO WHAT THIS DID IS IT JUST, UM, REDUCED THAT NUMBER SO THAT IT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES, WHICH IS ONE PHYSICAL COPY AND ONE ELECTRONIC COPY.

SO IT'S GOING TO SAVE US QUITE A BIT OF STORAGE SPACE.

WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE END.

UM, 477 HAD TO DO WITH OUR CASH BASIS FUND.

UM, I DO NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION WITHIN THE CHARTER DID.

UM, IT WAS ESTABLISHED, I THINK WE DETERMINED, LIKE, BACK IN THE 60S.

UM, WE HAD ONLY USED IT A HANDFUL OF TIMES BACK IN THAT, UM, ERA OF TIME.

BUT ESSENTIALLY IT IS NO MORE.

IT IS NO LONGER RELEVANT TO OUR OPERATIONS, AND THEREFORE, THE REQUEST OF THE VOTERS WAS JUST TO ELIMINATE THAT PARTICULAR SECTION OF OUR CHARTER.

UM, PROPOSITION 478 UM, AGAIN, UPDATING LANGUAGE WITHIN OUR CHARTER.

WE NO LONGER HAVE A POLICE COURT.

WE HAVE A MUNICIPAL COURT.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE POLICE JUDGES.

UH, WE HAVE MAGISTRATES.

SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST BRINGING THAT LANGUAGE, UH, IN IN LINE WITH CURRENT NOMENCLATURE.

AND THEN FINALLY, 479, UM, ADDRESSED COUNCIL'S FAILURE TO VOTE.

SO OUR CHARTER, UH, THE WAY THAT IT IS WRITTEN INDICATES THAT IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO VOTE ON A PARTICULAR ITEM, UM, THAT IS ENTERED IN AS A, UM, AFFIRMATIVE VOTE FOR WHATEVER THAT IS.

BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF, UM.

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THANK YOU. UM, AND ONE OF THOSE, AS IT WAS WRITTEN INTO THE CHARTER, WAS THAT, UM, IF IF THE ACTION BEFORE THE COUNCIL WAS IN, YOU KNOW, AS A PART OF SOMETHING AGAINST YOU IN YOUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY, MAYOR, YOU WOULD NOT YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, CHOOSE NOT TO VOTE ON THAT.

UM, BUT IT DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING THAT DECLARED UM OR GAVE THE EXCEPTION FOR A DECLARED CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

SO IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T.

YOU SHOULDN'T BE VOTING ON THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS. SO THIS ADDS THAT LANGUAGE TO JUST REALLY MAKE THE CLARIFICATION, UM, THAT THAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE REASON NOT TO VOTE ON AN ITEM.

SO I KNOW THOSE WERE A LOT, AND I KNOW I WENT THROUGH THEM FAST.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THESE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

UM, BUT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR IF I MISSPOKE IN ANY WAY.

ANYONE OUT IN THE STAFF WORLD IS HAPPY TO COME AND CORRECT ME.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

UM, WE'RE JUST GOING TO TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NOVEMBER 2024 ELECTION AND CONSIDERATIONS THAT WILL HAVE IN THE COMING MONTHS.

UH, ONE THING THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD FOR COUNCIL TO, UH, MOVE TO A BALLOT MEASURE IS THE TAX RENEWAL.

I'M GOING TO SAVE THAT FOR OUR ECONOMIC VITALITY.

DIRECTOR HEIDI HANSEN, TO GIVE YOU MORE INPUT ON THAT IN THE COMING SLIDES.

UM, WE ARE STILL THINKING ABOUT EXPENDITURE LIMITATION, LEANING MORE TOWARD NOT HAVING IT ON, BUT IT IS A POSSIBILITY, AS WE WE SEE THAT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT COSTS GROW IN OUR ABILITY TO SPEND. MONEY IS SOMETIMES LIMITED BY HOW MUCH THE STATE ALLOWS US TO, WITH CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS.

UM, SOMETIMES WE GET UP CLOSE TO THAT CAP, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO ANALYZE THAT WITH THE FINANCE TEAM AND THOSE DELIVERING THE PROJECTS TO SEE IF WE MAINTAIN UNDER THE EXISTING LEVEL.

PLUS, AS YOU ADD NEW FEES OR INCREASE RATES, THAT ALSO ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF A BURDEN, UH, TO STAYING UNDER THAT, THAT MEASURE AND DELIVERING SERVICES.

I'M GOING TO GO A LOT OF DETAILS ABOUT THAT.

IF WE BRING THAT FORWARD, WE'LL DEFINITELY SHARE MORE.

UH, WHY? WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND MEASURE FOR THIS ELECTION PERIOD.

UH, WE FEEL WE SHOULD, UH, GIVE A PAUSE ON GEO BOND MEASURES AS WELL AS WE WANT TO HOLD THIS CAPACITY.

WE HAVE SOME VERY LARGE PROJECTS AND VERY, UH, BIG COMMUNITY INVESTMENTS WE'RE GOING TO NEED IN THE FUTURE.

UM, SOME THINGS LIKE WASTEWATER PLANTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

WE THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE RESERVE SOME OF THIS FUNDING AT THIS POINT.

WE DON'T HAVE A PRESSING NEED TODAY AND KEEP THOSE.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING NO GEO BONDS.

UH, FOR THIS ELECTION.

A MOUNTAIN LINE IS IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BALLOT MEASURES.

I THINK SHE HAD THEY HAD A LITTLE CONVERSATION WITH YOU IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO.

UH, THEY HAVE A CITIZEN, UH, COMMITTEE, UH, FORMED, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER.

ARE YOU ON THAT ONE? WE HAVE A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THAT, AND WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR MOUNTAIN LION TO DELIVER SERVICES OR EVEN EXPAND SERVICES, UH, THEIR COST OF OF DELIVERING SERVICES GROWN JUST LIKE IT HAS FOR THE CITY.

AND THERE THEY GOT A COMMITTEE TOGETHER, CITIZENS THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND SEE WHAT OUR APPROACH IS, UH, FOR THIS NEXT ELECTION.

UM, IT'S VERY LIKELY THEY'LL BRING SOMETHING FORWARD TO COUNCIL.

YOU ARE ULTIMATELY THE ONES THAT DECIDE WHETHER THIS GOES ON A BALLOT MEASURE.

UH, THESE ARE OUR CITY TAXES THAT WE, UH, GIVE TO THEM TO DELIVER SERVICES WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS POSSIBLY AN INCREASE AS WELL, EXTENDING THE TAX PERIOD.

SO WE HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK, UH, SO OFTEN, UH, WITH THESE MOUNTAIN LION TAX MEASURES.

SO STAY TUNED FOR THAT ONE.

UH, AND THEN OUTSIDE THE CITY'S PURVIEW, THE ONE ITEM THAT WE ARE PRETTY SURE ABOUT IS THE COUNTY.

UH, THEY ARE LOOKING TO COME FORWARD WITH AN EXPANSION LIMITATION INCREASE.

KIND OF LIKE I TALKED TO YOU UP ABOVE.

THE CITY MAY NEED ONE.

THE COUNTY GOT INTO A LITTLE STRUGGLE, UH, BEING ABLE TO SPEND THE MONIES THAT THEY HAVE, UH, THEY DID SOME CREATIVE WORK AND, AND PROVIDE A SUCCESSFUL BUDGET, BUT THEY WILL HIGHLY LIKELY BE COMING FORWARD FOR THAT EXPENDITURE LIMITATION.

UH, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS DOING AT THIS TIME.

UM, BUT WE'LL HEAR MORE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, I'M SURE.

UH, SO THAT'S CITY CONSIDERATION FOR ELECTION.

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AFTERNOON. UH, SO THE BOARD OF BEVERAGE, UH, TAX IS TO EXPIRE IN 2028.

SO WE'D LIKE TO GO TO THE 2024 BALLOT SO THAT WE COULD GET THE GET IT RENEWED.

UM, AS A REMINDER, THE WAY THIS TAX IS COLLECTED, IT'S A 2% BED BOARD AND BEVERAGE TAX THAT IS COLLECTED FROM THE HOTELS, CAMPGROUNDS, RESTAURANTS, BARS AND SHORT TUM RENTALS.

SO, UM, AND THEN THE WAY THAT IT'S BEEN ALLOCATED IS IT GOES TO PARKS AND RECREATION, IT GOES TO TOURISM AND VISITOR SERVICES, UM, BEAUTIFICATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ARTS AND SCIENCE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL OF THOSE FACTORS HELP WITH OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND SO THEY'RE FITTING FOR THIS TAX.

WE HAVE LIKE, UH, RICK HAD EXPLAINED WHEN HE WAS DOING THE REVENUE UPDATES, WE HAVE GOTTEN TO A $12.1 MILLION ON THE BED BOARD AND BEVERAGE TAX. IT'S SUPER EXCITING BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, YOU UM, AND PAST COUNCIL DURING EITHER A RECESSION OR A DOWNTURN OR A PANDEMIC, YOU ALLOWED US TO CONTINUE TO MARKET THE DESTINATION.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE REBOUNDED MUCH QUICKER THAN OUR, UH, SISTER CITIES AND, UH, OTHER AREAS IN ARIZONA.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO REBOUND.

AND NOW WE ARE PRETTY MUCH, I WOULD SAY, THRIVING IN SOME AREAS.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT, LIKE ALL THE RESTAURANTS AND EVERYBODY THAT ARE DEALING WITH OTHER ISSUES AREN'T HAVING, UM, THINGS THAT THEY'RE STILL, UM, DEALING WITH.

BUT OVERALL, WE DO HAVE A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT WHEN IT TALKS TO THE CVB.

SO WE ARE HOPING TO GO TO THE BALLOT WHEN YOU SEE THIS, UH, LOGO UP TOP.

WE HAVE CREATED A COMMITTEE AND I'M GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

WE CREATED A COMMITTEE, AN INTERNAL WORKING TEAM.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE TAX RENEWAL FOR OVER A YEAR NOW.

AND SO ANYBODY THAT RECEIVES B-B-B IS PART OF THAT GROUP.

SO REBECCA SAHURS IS IN THERE.

TRACY WARD, ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK ON THIS EVERY, EVERY DAY, UM, WE CREATED THE NEW LOGO TO KIND OF EXPRESS WHAT THE B-B-B IS AND THEN WHO IS ACTUALLY RECEIVING IT.

SO THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE OUTLINED.

OUTLINE AROUND THE LOGO.

AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER A MARKETING PLAN AND WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON ADVERTISEMENTS, AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO START MESSAGING PROBABLY SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION SO THAT WE DON'T, UH, IF WE DO ANY SOONER THAN THAT, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO START GOING STALE.

THESE ADS ARE JUST TRYING TO SHOW YOU ELEMENTS.

THESE ARE NOT THE ADS.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WHEN WE DO MARKET IS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE, LIKE DINING OUT EQUALS MAINTAINING YOUR PARKS FOR YOUR KIDS. UH, LET'S SAY DINING OUT EQUALS GETTING ARTS INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE WHEN YOU PUT AN OVERNIGHT STAY OR WHAT WE LIKE TO REFER AS A HEAD IN THE BED, YOU ACTUALLY ENABLE US TO MARKET SAFE AND RESPONSIBLE VISITATION, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW THIS TAX IS BEING USED ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS IN THESE ADS.

THE ELEMENTS THAT YOU WILL SEE ARE THE NEW LOGO.

EXPLAIN WHERE THAT TAX IS COMING FROM AND THEN HOW THEY CAN GET MORE INFORMATION.

BECAUSE WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A WEBSITE FOR IT.

WHAT WE WILL NOT BE DOING IS TELLING THEM HOW THEY SHOULD VOTE, OF COURSE, BUT WE'RE JUST EDUCATING THEM ON WHAT THE B-B-B IS.

SO WHEN THEY GO TO THE, UH, TO THE BALLOTS OR TO THE POLLS, THEY WILL ACTUALLY HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY'RE REALLY, UM, HOPEFULLY APPROVING.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

AND WE WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU VERY SOON WITH THE ACTUAL MARKETING CAMPAIGN AND WITH THE ADVERTISEMENTS.

I'M ALWAYS OPEN NOW FOR ANY OTHER, UM, IDEAS OR SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE THAT I CAN TAKE BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT GREG WANTS THAT TO GO ON ALL DAY, BUT AT ANY RATE, UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO ME IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

BUT THE WHOLE POINT IS TO CONTINUE TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON WHY THIS TAX IS IMPORTANT, TO HAVE IT CONTINUE TO BE RENEWED.

YES. WHEN THIS COMES BACK, COULD YOU GIVE US A BREAKDOWN? SHIFT. THE MONEY COMES FROM VARIOUS AIRPORTS.

HOW MUCH COMES FROM RESTAURANTS, HOW MUCH COMES FROM BARS, HOW MUCH COMES FROM CELLS OR WHATEVER.

AND THE REASON I ASK THAT IS FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE, JUST CURIOSITY.

THE OTHER IS MAYBE, HYPOTHETICALLY, WE MIGHT WANT TO, UH, REDUCE THE AMOUNT AT RESTAURANTS AS AN EXAMPLE.

SO IF YOU BRING THAT DATA, THEN WE CAN JUST HAVE AN INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION.

WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT NOW.

UM, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU AT A PRIOR RETREAT, AND I THOUGHT WE, UH, MOVED ON.

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UM, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO TO PROPORTION OUT THE B-B-B THAT WAY, AND I THINK.

RICK, DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? THE TAX CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE ARE HOTEL, MOTEL, SHORT TERMS AND RESTAURANTS AND BARS.

THEY'RE NOT. WE CAN SHOW YOU THE TWO TAX CATEGORIES, BUT WE CAN'T BREAK.

IT'S HARD TO BREAK DOWN BARS AND RESTAURANTS A LITTLE FURTHER.

IT'LL TAKE SOME EFFORT. WE COULD, UM, WE CAN BRING IN THAT DATA AS CLOSE AS WE CAN GET.

HYPOTHETICALLY, WE COULD KEEP IT 2% ON BARS AND MAKE IT 1% ON RESTAURANTS.

IT'S ONE TAX CATEGORY.

IT'S ONE TAX CATEGORY.

SO, NO, WE COULDN'T HAVE A DIFFERENT RATE FOR BARS VERSUS RESTAURANTS.

EXACTLY. INITIATE THE INPUT.

THAT'S OUR MODEL CITY INPUT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER I JUST WANT TO THROW OUT ONE THING TOO.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD TO CLEAR UP WITH THE NORTHERN ARIZONA LODGING TOURISM RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION.

WHEN I WENT TO SPEAK TO THEM LAST MONTH, THEY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE GIVING, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE HOTELIERS, BUT THEY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE GIVING ALL SORTS OF LOVE TO THE HOTELS, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE THRIVING.

AND THEIR OCCUPANCY AND THE RED BAR AND THE ADR IS JUST SO GREAT.

AND THEN THE RESTAURANTS AND BARS ARE STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT.

IT IS UNTRUE. UM, WE DO PROMOTE HOTELS, BUT VERY SELDOM DO YOU SEE A LOT OF OUR ADS WITH THAT.

JUST SHOW SOMETHING.

WITH LITTLE AMERICA, WE WE PUT THEM IN OUR VIDEOS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT WE DO NOT HAVE TO MARKET A HOTEL BECAUSE BASICALLY, WHEN THEY KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO VISIT, THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO STAY.

WHAT WE MARKET MAINLY ARE THE RESTAURANTS AND BARS AND THE ATTRACTIONS, SO THAT THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO TO EXTEND THEIR STAY HERE WHILE THEY'RE IN FLAGSTAFF, BECAUSE THE WHOLE POINT IS ABOUT EXTENDING STAY.

THAT IS THE WHOLE KEY TO TOURISM.

SO WE ACTUALLY DO MORE ADVERTISING FOR THE RESTAURANTS AND BARS THAN WE ACTUALLY DO FOR THE HOTELS TO GIVE THEM A LESS OF A OF A TAX.

JUST DOES IT REALLY MAKE MUCH SENSE BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING A LOT OF MARKETING, UM, THROUGH A LOT OF VARIABLES.

UH, THAT WILL WITH THE DISCOVER FLAGSTAFF TEAM IS, IS IS ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

I'LL JUST THROW ONE MORE THING OUT.

I WAS GROWING UP.

THE TOTAL TAX RATE WAS RAISED IN TUCSON WAS 4%.

NOW WE'RE THREE TIMES AS HIGH AS THAT.

SO WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER AGAIN, THROW THIS OUT.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT LATER.

MIGHT CONSIDER MAKING THE TAX 1.5% INSTEAD.

INTRODUCED. WELL, I THINK WE HAD THE DISCUSSION IN APRIL.

UH, AS I REMEMBER, AND IF COUNCIL WANTS TO GIVE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS IN APRIL, I THOUGHT WE HEARD FROM MAJORITY THAT LET'S STICK WITH THE 2% AND NOT CHANGE ALLOCATIONS AND NOT REDUCE OR CHANGE THE PERCENTAGES.

SO I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT.

AND IF THAT'S TRUE AND I ACCEPT IT, NO, I, I JUST WANT TO BRING A VERY IMPORTANT FOR US THAT WE CAN START THE PROCESS.

IMPORTANT FOR ME TO GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND WORK WITH THEM ON THAT DECIDED THAT THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN CHANGE.

BUT THIS IS YOUR MIND.

YEAH. IT'S IT'S YOUR DECISION.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS. THREE QUESTIONS.

ONE IS JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, THE PERCENTAGE OF THE TAX GOING TO PARK TOURISM WITH THAT, UH, BUDGET TEAM DOES THAT OR IS THAT JUST A STANDARD? I'M JUST CURIOUS.

ALLOCATION. SO COUNCIL, UM, AT SOME POINT.

SO WOULD HAVE, UM, CREATED THAT ALLOCATION AT SOME POINT.

AND, UM, I'VE ACTUALLY SPOKEN.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW IT'S DERIVED, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE HOTELS, CAMPGROUNDS, ALL A LOT OF THOSE HOTELIERS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE THAN 30%.

WE USED TO GET 48 POINT, I THINK I BELIEVE 5% WHEN IT FIRST STARTED.

UM, QUITE HONESTLY, WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO GET IT RENEWED.

YEAH. UM, WE ALL HAVE SOMETHING.

EVERY SINGLE, UM, ENTITY THAT GETS SOMETHING HERE HAS THEY UTILIZE THIS QUITE EFFECTIVELY.

UM, PARKS AND RECREATION.

THEY COULDN'T DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UM, WITHOUT THEIR FUNDING, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO, UM, BUT THAT'S HOW IT'S ACTUALLY DETERMINED IS THROUGH THE COUNCIL.

I WASN'T LOOKING TO CHANGE IT.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON HOW IT.

DOES IT. OKAY. UM.

AND YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS, AND MAYBE I WAS HAVING A SUGAR COMA AFTER LUNCH, BUT, UM.

EXPLAINING WHAT THE EXPENDITURE LIMITATION WAS.

I MEAN, I KIND OF UNDERSTAND IT IN THE, UM, UH, MUNICIPALITY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE CAN ONLY SPEND OR WE HAVE TO SPEND X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.

AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, UM.

WASTEWATER PROJECTS. YOU YOU MENTIONED THEM.

IN THE FUTURE, WE PROBABLY WILL, UM, GO FOR A BOND QUESTION.

UM, IS THAT BEING, UM, CONSIDERED IN OUR, OUR WATER AND STORMWATER, UM, WATER TAX RATES SITUATION

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UM, IT'S AN OPTION INSTEAD OF JUST PUTTING IT ON THE TAXPAYERS AND THEN MAYBE HOPE FOR A BOND ISSUANCE.

NOW IT IS IT IS RECOGNIZED AS CRITICAL FOR OUR TEN YEAR PLAN IN OUR RATE STUDY THAT WE'RE DOING.

UH, WE HAVE IT AS FUNDING WITH EXTERNAL RESOURCES VERSUS RATEPAYERS AT THIS TIME.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS OVER THE COMING WEEKS IF WE DO WANT TO ADD ANY RATEPAYER TO FUND PART OF THAT.

BUT, UH, WE WOULD LOOK FOR MULTIPLE RESOURCES FOR A PROJECT THAT SIZE.

FEDERAL FUNDING, STATE FUNDING.

SURE. BUT I GUESS GEO BOND POSSIBLY, OR SALES TAX, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS STILL TO FIGURE OUT.

YEAH. MY QUESTION WAS MORE ABOUT WE'RE DOING A RATE STUDY AND WE'RE IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR TO APPROVE A RATE INCREASE.

AND IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR ME AT LEAST TO SAY, BECAUSE 208 MILLION, I THINK IS THE NUMBER I COULD BE WRONG, UM, IS A BIG NUMBER, BUT ALL OF THESE ARE CRITICAL PROJECTS.

UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW.

YES, BUT, YOU KNOW, 100 MILLION IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE ON THE TAXPAYER, YOU KNOW, THE RATEPAYERS AND THE OTHER PART ON A BOND OR READJUSTMENT, HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.

SO WHEN WE'RE VOTING ON SOMETHING WE HAVE SCENARIOS LAYING IT OUT.

THE EXPENSE OF SHANNON OUT THERE, BUT I'M SURE WE'RE KEEPING GOOD NOTES.

AND WHEN WE COME BACK WITH THE RACE STUDY, WE'LL BE SURE TO GIVE YOU THOSE SPECIFICS.

ABSOLUTELY. EITHER.

QUESTIONS? A COMMENT.

UM, AND WE TOUCHED ON THIS JUST A MINUTE AGO, BUT THE ALLOCATION.

UH, IS A COUNCIL DECISION AND ONE THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF MAINTAINING THE CURRENT COURSE.

THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE YOU WILL BE LOBBIED BETWEEN NOW AND, UM, OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER OF 2024 ON THE ALLOCATION.

UM, I WOULD EXPECT THAT TO BE THE CASE.

UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD IN APRIL AND JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING ANY CHANGES, BUT YOU MAY BE HEARING SOMETHING FROM THE COMMUNITY.

ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT, HEIDI? WELL, THE THOUGHT IS, THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD THAT WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION NOW, BECAUSE LIKE I JUST SAID, WHEN I WENT TO NOTRE TWO MONTHS AGO, THEY WANTED TO COME CRASHING DOWN YOUR DOORS AND TALK ABOUT RAISING THAT 30% FOR TOURISM.

AND I ASKED THEM NOT TO.

QUITE HONESTLY, I TOLD THEM WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH THE AMOUNT THAT WE ALREADY ARE RECEIVING.

WE WENT THROUGH AN ENTIRE PRESENTATION AND THEN SOME.

WE BRAINSTORMED WITH THEM.

I THINK WE LEFT THEM WITH FEELING VERY GOOD ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.

UM, AND KNOWING THAT, UM, A DESTINATION OUR SIZE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING WELL WITH WHAT WE ARE GIVEN.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE OTHER THINGS LIKE OUR PARKS AND EVERYTHING MAINTAINED, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ARTS AND SCIENCE, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WE DON'T DO BEAUTIFICATION AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

WE AREN'T GIVING THEM AN OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE.

SLIDE BACK UP. IT SHOWS THE.

SURE. YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO COMMENT TO THAT.

THAT TO REALLY FULLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS OF THOSE PERCENTAGES IS PROBABLY A THREE WEEK PROCESS.

AND MY QUESTION WAS JUST ABOUT CURIOSITY OF HOW IT GOT ALLOCATED.

YOUR DECISIONS ON THAT, I THINK WOULD BE, UH, A HUGE I'M GOING TO RELY ON YOU, THE EXPERT THAT KNOWS ALL THOSE CATEGORIES AND HOW THE BEST TO, UM, ALLOCATE THEM TO GET THE BEST RESULTS FOR OUR CITY.

UM, SO I WANT TO MAKE YOU NERVOUS THINKING THAT I WANT TO GET THIS OUT.

I WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO 7.75%.

UM, BECAUSE IT REALLY DO IT JUSTICE.

WE WOULD REALLY HAVE TO WEIGH DOWN.

EXACTLY. AND I'VE HAD PEOPLE EVEN SAY, WELL, LET'S JUST ADD A BUNCH OF STUFF AND THEN GIVE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, 5 OR 10%, YOU'RE KILLING ME.

BECAUSE HONESTLY, THE WHOLE REASON THIS MONEY COMES IN IS BECAUSE OF THE MARKETING AND ADVERTISING WE DO TO DRAW THE VISITATION, TO SPEND THE MONEY AND TO HAVE THE EXTENDED STAYS.

WE WENT FROM TWO POINT, UM, EIGHT NIGHT STAY TO 3.2 IN JUST FIVE YEARS.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

WE DON'T HAVE THEM JUST COME IN HERE AND BE A GAS STOP FROM THE GRAND CANYON.

SO BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO CREATE A SENSE OF PLACE.

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UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A VISIT TURN INTO A GROWTH OPPORTUNITY FOR A BUSINESS.

AND IT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO HAVE FIELDS AND TRAILS AND ALL OF THAT TO PLAY ON.

BECAUSE WE WANT THEM OUTDOORS.

WE WANT THEM STAYING HERE LONGER.

SO ALL OF THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

UM, IF IT DIDN'T, WE WOULD BE TALKING TO YOU DIFFERENTLY.

SO. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

IF YOU EVER HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE REACH OUT.

AND REBECCA HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION AS WELL.

RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD STUFF. AND, UH, WE ARE WAY AHEAD.

SO WE HAD SCHEDULED A BREAK HERE.

IF EVERYONE APPROVES, I'D LIKE TO JUST BLOW THROUGH THE BREAK AND GET OUT A FEW MINUTES EARLY.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO STAND UP AND STRETCH, I SAW SOME PRETTY BIG YAWNS.

OKAY, SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE JUST ABOUT 60S STAND UP AND STRETCH AND BLOOD GOING AGAIN.

JUMPING JACKS.

IT CAN BE VERY. SHE SAID NO.

THANK YOU. TODAY IS THE DAY.

SO I. HE'S.

PEOPLE LIKE.

DO YOU WANT TO? THAT IS WHAT THE GAVEL SAW.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR LAST ITEM.

THIS. COUNCIL EXPECTATIONS.

GREG CLIFTON I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHORT VIDEO IN HERE AS WELL, AND WE'RE DOING SO WELL.

WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE EARLY.

WOO HOO! ALL RIGHT, GREG, THANK YOU.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO A QUICK, FUN THING.

SOMETIMES WE DO FUN THINGS DURING THESE RETREATS.

UH, WE'LL GIVE CJ TIME TO CUE IT UP.

OR DO YOU HAVE IT CUED UP? THIS IS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AT THE LAST RETREAT, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT CAPITAL PROJECTS, AND, UH, A FEW OF THEM ARE UNDERWAY.

UM, AND IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THE WORK.

UH, I DRIVE THROUGH THE GRANDVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY DAY.

IT'S GOT OVERTON AND TEAM.

IT IS EXCITING TO SEE THE WORK ON GRANDVIEW.

AND, UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW GRATIFYING IT IS TO JUST SEE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE OCCURRING, NAMELY, BIG, BIG PILES OF SANDBAGS GETTING REDUCED.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE WRONG THING.

I KNOW SANDBAGS HAVE TO STAY IN PLACE, BUT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS TRANSFORMING.

UH, AND IT'S SO COOL TO SEE, UH, BUT LOOKING AT ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY AND SOMETHING THAT'S NOT QUITE AS VISIBLE.

UH, ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT IT, UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE BEULAH INTERSECTION.

AND, UH, THIS VIDEO, I MEAN, THIS JUST CAME TO PAUL.

YOU CAN YOU CAN YOU COME UP AND GIVE US SOME QUICK BACKGROUND ON WHERE THIS VIDEO COMES FROM? AND IT'S ONLY A COUPLE OF MINUTES, BUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, US ALL TO ENJOY, UH, A LITTLE SNAPSHOT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ON BEULAH.

YEAH. THANKS, GREG.

THANKS, PAUL. YEAH. UH, PAUL MOOD YOUR YOUR CITY ENGINEER.

UM, ONE OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT COUNCIL APPROVED OF CONSTRUCTION LAST YEAR WAS THE BEULAH AND UNIVERSITY PROJECT.

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AND WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN MILTON, IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE ACROSS FROM TARGET.

SO YOU REALLY DON'T SEE A LOT OF THE WORK GOING ON.

UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF TIME SPENT DOING ALL THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, WATER, SEWER, UM, PRIVATE UTILITY COMPANIES.

BUT NOW WE'VE BEEN DOING THE SUBGRADE AND WE'RE GETTING SOME CURB AND GUTTER IN.

SO THIS VIDEO, WE GO OUT THERE EVERY FEW MONTHS AND TAKE A DRONE VIDEO.

UM, THIS VIDEO WAS TAKEN BY DAVID PETERSON, ONE OF OUR SENIOR PROJECT MANAGERS.

YOU'VE SEEN HIM PRESENT AT COUNCIL BEFORE, BUT YEAH, THIS VIDEO JUST SHOWS ALL THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S REALLY STARTING TO TAKE SHAPE.

AGAIN. THANKS, PAUL.

THANKS, CJ. DAVID USUALLY PUTS A LITTLE MUSIC TO HIS VIDEOS.

I WAS LOOKING AT IT BACK THERE WITHOUT ANY SOUND, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THIS.

WELL. IT'S INTRIGUING.

THIS ALSO.

HERE. THEY'VE GOT THE CURB, GUTTER, SIDEWALK.

YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE PARKWAY IN THERE.

UH. SO. GREAT.

UH, YEAH. UH.

GOOD QUESTION. I'D HAVE TO WORK.

YOUR MAJESTY. LOOK A ROUNDABOUT.

OH, NOW WE'RE GOING, NOW WE'RE GOING.

HOT DOG ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD IS WHERE THE UNDERPASS IS GOING WITH US, AND IT DROPS DOWN IN THERE.

YEAH. GOING IN NEXT SPRING AFTER, UH.

SEEING THE PORTAL.

BOTTOM THREE.

UM. MY TARGET.

YOU SHOULD LOOK AT TUESDAY.

FRASCHINI. STACEY.

OH, NO! YOU'RE GOING TO BE INTERESTING.

THE TUNNEL OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE CONCRETE WITH.

NO. THE THING WE DO IS INTERESTING.

I BELIEVE. NO, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN.

SOMEBODY'S SPEAKING. WE'RE DOING ARTWORK IN THE TUNNEL.

YEAH. ASSUMPTION THAT IT WILL BE INTERESTING.

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UH, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK HAPPENING THAT AVAILABLE ONLINE.

SO. I THINK IT JUST GOT CIRCULATED BY EMAIL, BUT MAKE IT AVAILABLE.

YEAH. WHILE BACK AT ONE OF THESE RETREATS, UH, WE HAD, UH, COUNCIL AT THAT TIME, UH, EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN HAVING SOME OPEN ENDED DISCUSSION AT THE END OF THE RETREAT TO TALK ABOUT TAKEAWAYS OR THOUGHTS THAT MAY HAVE COME TO MIND DURING THE MANY TOPICS WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, UH, BIG PICTURE GOALS AND PRIORITIES, UH, THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE US FOCUS ON THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DISCUSSED, OR MAYBE THEY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED. AND YOU WANT TO JUST ADD EMPHASIS TO IT.

SO THIS IS THAT TIME, UH, TO TURN IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND HAVE YOU SHARE WITH ALL OF US YOUR THOUGHTS.

UM, AND I'M NOT GOING TO CALL ON ANYBODY EXCEPT I WILL CALL ON COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, UH, BECAUSE SHE JUST RAISED HER HAND.

COUNCIL MEMBER YOU WANT TO LEAD THIS OFF? YEAH. I JUST WANT TO, UH, REITERATE WHAT I'VE SAID BEFORE AND TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT I REALLY MEAN THIS.

IF WE HAD A COMPETITION WITH STAFFS, I WOULD PUT OURS UP AGAINST ANY STAFF IN THE COUNTRY.

YEAH. I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW.

WE WE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS.

I'M JUST AMAZED AT HOW MUCH YOU ALL KNOW AND HOW MUCH I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW.

AND SO I APPRECIATE, UH, YOU ALL BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN STUFF TO ME SO I CAN UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE SAME EXPERTISE THAT EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM HAS.

BUT I DO APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK, AND I'M SURE I'M GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I SAID THAT.

WELL, THAT'S VERY WELL RECEIVED, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING WITH THE STAFF, WITH THE BUDGET TEAM, WITH EVERYBODY.

SO THANK YOU. YEAH.

MAYOR. I'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS LATELY ABOUT DARK SKY PRESERVATION AND ONGOING EFFORTS TO MAINTAIN THAT AND TO ADDRESS IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. MAYBE A DOLLARS.

FINDING THE COUCH CUSHIONS.

UH, DEDICATED IN THE BUDGET TOWARDS A POT OF MONEY THAT WOULD BE USED TO THAT END.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS A WAY THAT, UH, CITIZENS AND NEIGHBORS CAN PETITION TO GET STREET LIGHTS REMOVED.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT COSTS ABOUT $2,000 TO DO THAT.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UM, UM, JEFF BAUMAN AND, UH, CHRIS LUGINBILL.

YESTERDAY, AND THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN THEM FOCUSED A LITTLE BIT ON, YOU KNOW, JUST.

DOLLARS AND CENTS WHEN IT COMES TO HOW WE HOW WE CONTINUE TO MANAGE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THOSE ACTIVITIES TO SEE A POT FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF AND THERE HAS BEEN ONE INSTANCE AS, AS OF THIS DATE, IT'S NOT REALLY A WELL KNOWN PROGRAM YET, BUT AS IT GETS BETTER KNOWN, I, I THINK IT WILL BE UTILIZED TO HAVE STREET LIGHTS REMOVED.

UM, $2,000 HERE OR THERE ISN'T A BIG DEAL.

BUT IF THAT GETS UP TO SPEED IN CERTAIN AREAS, THAT COULD BECOME AN EXPENSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR AND ALSO PROVIDING FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR RESIDENTIAL LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS, UM, SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF A FIXTURE REBATE PROGRAM SIMILAR TO LIKE LOW, LOW FLUSH TOILETS AND OTHER WEATHERIZATION EFFORTS WE HAVE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THAT.

THAT'S NOT BIG PICTURE. IT'S KIND OF IN THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT.

UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN SOMEONE PUT A PIN IN THAT YET, SO.

GOTCHA. I THINK IT IS.

AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING.

WHAT I HEAR YOU SUGGESTING IS LESS INCENTIVIZE, MORE DARK SKY COMPLIANCE, AND DO SOME THINGS PROACTIVELY AND ESTABLISH A FUND TO ENABLE THAT TO HAPPEN.

AND JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE I'M ONLY ONE VOICE ON COUNCIL.

IT'S JUST A THOUGHT FOR US TO.

WELL, LET'S RUN WITH IT. UH COUNCIL.

THOUGHTS? YEAH. LET ME JUST ADD THE DARK SKIES.

I TOTALLY GET IT.

COUNCIL MEMBER. UM, ASLAN.

UH, BUT LET'S ALSO THINK ABOUT SAFETY, ESPECIALLY ABOUT YOUNG WOMEN WHO ARE WALKING ALONE AT NIGHT IN DARK PLACES.

THE LIGHT GIVES THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE PROTECTION OR OR AT LEAST A FEEL OF SAFETY.

AND I KNOW I PREACH TO YOUNG WOMEN ALL THE TIME ABOUT WALKING BY THEMSELVES AT NIGHT, BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP THEM FROM DOING THAT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE WORKING IN A BAR AND THEN THEY HAVE TO COME HOME AT NIGHT BY THEMSELVES OR WHATEVER.

SO LET'S JUST THINK ABOUT THAT TOO, AS WE THINK ABOUT DARK SKIES, ABOUT OUR SAFETY INDEED.

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YES, PLEASE. UM, I LIKE THE TO INCENTIVIZE THE HOMEOWNERS FOR LIGHTS.

UM, JUST TO GIVE THAT ENCOURAGEMENT FOR PEOPLE.

UM, I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, STREET LIGHTS AND MAYBE THE CHIEF WOULD CHIME IN, BUT.

AND MY STREET, UM, OFF.

ANITA, I HAVE THIS ONE LITTLE HORSESHOE THAT'S A NEW COMPLEX, BUT THEN WE HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS US TO A MORE ESTABLISHED, OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING FROM IN TOWN THAT WALK.

AND, UM, I WOULD BE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, SAFETY, BUT ARE WE? AND I'M NOT.

I'M NOT AWARE OF WHO WE ARE.

AND CHANGING OUT OUR STREET LIGHTS TO DARK SKIES.

HAVE WE DONE ALL THAT IN THE CITY OR THE SO THAT MIGHT HELP TOO.

SO THAT WOULD BE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CHIEF FEELS ABOUT IT.

I KNOW WHEN I WAS WANTING TO PUT A FENCE IN OVER IT, A NEW, I WAS TOLD, MY GRAND IDEAS, A WOODEN FENCE I THOUGHT WOULD BE GREAT AND THEY SAID NO, IT NEEDS TO BE CHAIN LINK JUST FOR SAFETY AND BEING ABLE TO SEE WHO'S BEHIND THERE.

BUT I THINK THESE LIGHTS THE NEGATIVE IMPACT DOWN THE ROAD OF FOR PEOPLE TO GET SOAKED AND STUFF.

SO I JUST IT WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT.

YEAH, I SEE THAT. I DON'T THINK THE CONVERSATION IS REALLY CENTERED AROUND DELIGHTING OUR CITY AT NIGHT.

IT'S ABOUT REMAINING IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND MAKING THOSE EFFORTS A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR OVERALL LIGHTING ISN'T INCREASING OVER TIME TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S ENDANGERING TOURISM AND OUR CRITICAL NATIONAL DEFENSE MISSION. AND I, I HOPE YOU DON'T GET HUNG UP ON THE IDEA OF TAKING DOWN LIGHTS.

THAT'S A VERY SPECIFIC THING THAT'S ON OFFER THAT REQUIRES, UM, NEIGHBORS TO BE IN AGREEMENT ABOUT IT.

IT'S IT'S SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES CONSENSUS.

IT'S NOT JUST WANTING IT WANTING WANTING IT.

TOTALLY DARK IN MY BACKYARD FOR MY TELESCOPE.

UH, SO THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREET LIGHT GOES AWAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO CAUGHT UP IN THE SPECIFIC INSTANCE, BUT THE ABILITY TO JUST HAVE BUDGETED OUR VARIOUS STRATEGY STRATEGIES TO.

PRESS. AN ONGOING STRUGGLE THAT FIGHT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF SAFETY, FOR SURE.

I THINK THIS CONVERSATION IS ARE ALWAYS AWARE OF THAT DESIRE AND THOSE PERCEPTIONS AND, UH, THE NEED TO ENSURE THE PUBLIC IS BOUGHT INTO THE WHOLE PROGRAM.

YEAH, I LIKE THE IDEA OF INCENTIVIZING FOR MORE DARK SKIES INITIATIVES, BECAUSE ONE OF THE ATTRACTIONS PEOPLE COME UP HERE, WE'RE DARK.

THE FIRST ARE THE FIRST DARK SKIES COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE LOW INVENTORY, AND PEOPLE SEE STARS THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW EXISTED HERE IF THEY LIVE IN THE BIG CITIES.

AND SO I THINK WE CAN FIND LITTLE POTHOLES TO FUND MORE, UH, INITIATIVES IN THAT I THINK IS A REALLY GREAT TO JUST EXPAND THE ATTRACTION TO FLAGSTAFF.

SO. THAT'S THE THOUGHT REAL FAST.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO I'VE BEEN BEATING THIS DRUM A LITTLE BIT LATELY.

WE HAVE THE DISCOVERY CENTER COMING IN $50 INVESTMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY.

UH, $50 WAS SPEAKING A LOT TO ME, TO THAT $50 MILLION INVESTMENT.

MY APOLOGIES.

ALL GOOD. UM, THAT REQUIRES.

AND HOPEFULLY INTO PERPETUITY, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THEIR ROOFTOP PLANETARIUM.

REAL NIGHT SKY PLANETARIUM THAT REQUIRES US TO BE, UH, GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR DARK SKY RESOURCE.

JUST ON THAT LEVEL ALONE.

YEAH. UM, AND THAT'S NEW.

THAT'S THAT'S A NEW PART OF THE EQUATION.

I WAS READING THE THE DAILY PLANET FROM TELLURIDE THE OTHER DAY.

AND, UH, WHAT'S MAKING THE NEWS OUT IN WESTERN COLORADO NOW IS, UH, SAN MIGUEL COUNTY TRYING TO ESTABLISH ITSELF AS A DARK SKIES COUNTY, UH, WHICH IS HUGE.

I READ STUFF LIKE THAT, AND IT MAKES ME FEEL SO PROUD TO BE IN A COMMUNITY.

THAT WAS THE VERY FIRST TO BE A DARK SKIES COMPLIANT COMMUNITY.

SO WE CAN HEAR FROM OUR POLICE CHIEF, PRESUMABLY ABOUT SAFETY STUFF IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION.

AND THEN I THOUGHT I HEARD A QUESTION, UH, IN THERE ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH THE STREET LIGHTING.

SAM, THANKS. GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, POLICE CHIEF DAN MUSSELMAN, FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, MY OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE LEAVE.

I CONTINUE TO HAVE LIGHTS ON OUR MAIN THOROUGHFARES.

THAT'S WHERE WE SEE PEDESTRIANS GET HIT AND KILLED BY CARS.

YEARS AGO, WE EVEN HAD A STRETCH ON NORTH 89 WHERE THE STREET LIGHTS WERE OUT AND WE HAD A POLICE OFFICER STRIKE AND KILL SOMEONE THAT WAS CROSSING IN THE DARK SKY.

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I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN OPINION SO MUCH.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SAFER WAYS TO WALK HOME AND LYFT, UBER, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

PHONE A FRIEND. BUT ON THE MAIN THOROUGHFARES, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND, FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, ONLY THAT WE KEEP SOME FORM OF LIGHTING SO THAT DRIVERS CAN SEE PEOPLE ENCROACHING UPON THE ROADWAY.

THANKS, CHIEF. ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'S CONSISTENT. BUT.

ALL RIGHT. UH, SAM BECKETT, STREET'S DIRECTOR.

SO AS FAR AS THE STREET LIGHTS AND THE TRANSITION IN THE SLEDS PROGRAM, OPERATIONALLY, UH, WE ARE STARTING TO MAKE SOME GOOD PROGRESS THERE.

HOWEVER, WE'RE ABOUT, I'D SAY JUST UNDER 200 HAVE BEEN TRANSITIONED OUT OF THE 4000 STREET LIGHTS IN THE CITY.

SO WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.

WE USUALLY UTILIZE OUR SIGNAL TECHNICIANS TO HELP WITH THAT.

HOWEVER, THE VACANCY RATE IN THOSE ONE EXTENDS BACK ABOUT THREE MONTHS.

THE OTHER ONE IS ABOUT 48 MONTHS.

THERE'S ONLY TWO POSITIONS, AND THEY HAVE BEEN RUNNING 100% VACANT FOR THE LAST 3 TO 4 YEARS.

SO, UH, THAT ONE'S BEEN A REALLY IMPACTFUL PIECE FOR US BECAUSE THEY DID ALL THE WORK.

UM, THE SUPERVISOR, STEPHEN HILL, HAS BEEN DOING A TON OF THAT WORK, AND WE'VE BEEN TRAINING INTERNALLY.

UH, STAFF MEMBER I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT WE DID JUST HIRE ON, UH, ONE OF OUR SIGNAL TECHS AND THE OTHER ONE WE'RE HOPING THE INTERNAL CANDIDATE HAS BEEN WORKING TOWARDS THAT ONE ON BOARD.

SO THE ADDITION TO THAT IS LAST YEAR, GREATLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET TWO STREET LIGHT TECHNICIANS APPROVED THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THOSE JOB DESCRIPTIONS WERE JUST RELEASED, AND THOSE, UH, POSTINGS SHOULD GO OUT WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK.

SO WE SHOULD MAKE A TON MORE PROGRESS ON THE STREET LIGHT TRANSITION PIECE OF IT.

AS FAR AS THE REMOVALS, UH, WE DO GET INVOLVED IN THOSE.

WE HAVE HEARD SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS ON THAT.

WE DO HAVE ABOUT A DOZEN LIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT NO LONGER HAVE CONNECTIVITY TO POWER.

AND IF THE HOMEOWNER DOESN'T AGREE FOR US TO RUN NEW POWER.

WE WERE JUST KIND OF STUCK IN LIMBO.

SO WE HAVE ABOUT A DOZEN OF THOSE THAT JUST WON'T BE ENERGIZED BECAUSE THERE'S NO CONNECTIVITY ANYMORE, AND THE HOMEOWNER JUST ISN'T ON BOARD WITH, UM, ALLOWING US TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION AGAIN.

SO WE RUN INTO ISSUES LIKE THAT.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, UM, OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE UP AND RUNNING.

THANK YOU. SAM. YEAH. AIR.

I'D LIKE US TO CONSIDER ALL OF THE WAYS THAT WE COULD, UM, BETTER FUND HOUSING AND GIVE, UM, A RELIABLE STREAM OF FUNDING TO ALLOW FOR SOME MORE FORWARD PLANNING.

UM. YEAH.

WELL SAID. UM, COMMUNITY THAT I REPRESENTED BEFORE WAS WITH A LOT OF FORESIGHT, WAS SUCCESSFUL IN ADVANCING.

THE BALLOT MEASURE TO HAVE A PERMANENT REVENUE STREAM IN PLACE THROUGH TAXATION FOR HOUSING SOLELY FOR HOUSING.

AND IT WAS SIGNIFICANT, AND MANY THINGS HAVE COME FROM IT AND CONTINUE TO COME FROM IT.

IT IS MEANINGFUL.

UH, I KNOW I'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH SARAH AND OTHERS IN THE HOUSING REALM ABOUT, UH, HOW WE CAN USE THE CURRENT PROPOSITION 442 AS, AS A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, SOME SUCCESSES AND BUILD ON SUCCESSES AND, UH, SET THE STAGE EVENTUALLY FOR THAT DISCUSSION, I WOULD HOPE I THINK OTHERS WOULD HOPE, UH, THAT BOND WAS VERY IMPORTANT.

DON'T WANT TO IN ANY WAY DIMINISH THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT, BUT IT COULD REALLY SERVE AS A AS A TEMPLATE OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH A GUARANTEED REVENUE STREAM OF SOME SORT PUT INTO PLACE.

SO I THINK YOUR YOUR SUGGESTIONS ARE WELL STATED.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? YES, PLEASE. RELATED.

I THINK WHAT I'M GOING TO MENTION IS ALREADY HAPPENING, BUT I WANT TO CONTINUE IT TO HAPPEN.

AND THAT'S THAT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

REVIEW OUR ZONING CODES.

SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ENCOURAGE MORE HOUSING.

ONE EXAMPLE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, AUXILIARY DWELLING UNITS.

AND AGAIN, I KNOW SOME OF THIS IS GOING ON.

I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UPDATE OUR CODES, PROCEDURES, OUR REGULATIONS TO MAKE IT, UH, MORE PRACTICAL TO BUILD A QUALITY HOUSING.

AND WHEN I SAY HIGH QUALITY HOUSING, I'M, I DON'T THINK ON, YOU KNOW, REQUIRED INSTALLATION AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, BETTER INSULATION THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A NEW HOUSE, BUT IT SAVES A LOT OF MONEY IN THE LONG RUN.

AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK, UH, DAN AND I DON'T KNOW IF MICHELLE'S ON ONLINE, BUT, UH, EITHER ONE OF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE LAST AND HOW THE, UH, CODE

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OF THAT PROCESS.

I WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT. SURE.

AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DAN FULK.

I'M THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

SO, YEAH, WE HAVE THIS LAST CAP PROJECT GOING ON.

LAST IS THE LAND AVAILABILITY.

SUITABILITY STUDY CAP IS THE CODE ANALYSIS PROJECT.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THE CODES, UM, THE ZONING CODE, THE HOUSING CODE.

SO THE BUILDING CODE, UM, OUR ENERGY CODES, THE FIRE CODE, THE WHOLE SUITE OF CODES THAT GET APPLIED TO NEW CONSTRUCTION.

UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT.

I WILL SAY FLAGSTAFF HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A LEADER IN OUR ZONING CODE, IN MY VIEW, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ALLOW.

FOLKS DON'T NECESSARILY USE THE ALLOWANCES, RIGHT? SO THERE'S A BIG NATIONAL DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW SINGLE FAMILY ZONING HAS REALLY IMPACTED THE COST OF HOUSING.

AND IN FLAGSTAFF, WE'VE ACTUALLY ALLOWED DUPLEXES AND EVEN UP TO THREE UNITS ON A SINGLE FAMILY LOT, AS LONG AS THE LOT IS A CERTAIN SIZE.

UM, WE REDUCED OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS SIGNIFICANTLY IN 2011.

A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER, WE INCREASED THEM A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME COMMUNITY PUSHBACK AND THE COUNCIL DIRECTED US TO ADD IN SOME MORE PARKING.

BUT, I MEAN, AND THESE ARE THE NATIONAL TALKING POINTS, RIGHT? GET RID OF MANDATORY MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

UM, SO I DO FEEL LIKE WE WE'VE BEEN TRYING A LOT OF THESE TOOLS OVER THE YEARS, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

THE CODE ANALYSIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE I THINK I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE RESULTS OF THAT.

AND SEEING FROM AN OUTSIDE PARTY THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE.

UM. YOU HAVE INCENTIVES, BUT THEY TEND TO COMPETE AGAINST EACH OTHER IS WHAT WE HEAR, OR THEY'RE NOT ENOUGH TO CLOSE THE GAP, RIGHT? CLEAN, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, THAT THE INCENTIVES THAT WE'RE USING IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL DENSITY, UM, DOESN'T NECESSARILY CLOSE THAT GAP.

I WOULD SAY THE REALLY INCREDIBLE TOOL THAT WE'VE ADOPTED IS THIS, UM, REGULATORY RELIEF.

YOU'VE HAD TWO PROJECTS COME BEFORE YOU WHERE IF THEY'RE PROVIDING 100% AFFORDABILITY, YOU CAN GET REGULATORY RELIEF.

YOU JUST HAD ONE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, RIGHT.

FOR GROWERS.

WE DID ONE FOR, UH, FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR LIVING.

AND SO THAT I MEAN, WE'RE A LEADER IN THE STATE, OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING.

UM, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE SOME SUCCESS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO JUST KEEP BUILDING ON THESE TOOLS, UPDATE THE ONES THAT AREN'T WORKING, INTRODUCE NEW TOOLS.

SO, YEAH, I THINK WE'RE ALL EXCITED TO SEE THE OUTCOME OF THAT.

FORTUNATELY, IT'S STILL A FEW MONTHS AWAY, BUT SURE, WE'LL HAVE A REPORT ON IT.

IT'S GOING ON.

YEAH, I JUST BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN TO SAY, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

UM, IT IS IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU. DAN. YEAH. YOU'RE WELCOME.

UM. YOU KNOW, IN THESE IN THESE RETREATS AND THE OVERALL BUDGET DISCUSSION THAT A LOT OF IT IS ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS.

BUT SO MUCH OF WHAT WE TALK ABOUT IS, IS BEYOND THAT, IT'S PRIORITIES AND, UH, THINGS MOVING FORWARD THAT UH, UH, SHOULD, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS AND POLICIES THAT SHOULD GUIDE US.

THIS IS INDEED ONE.

AND IT IS EVOLVING.

SO I THINK YOUR COMMENT IS WELL STATED.

AND, UH, YOU'LL BE HEARING MORE ABOUT THIS IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

I'M CONFIDENT YOU'LL BE GETTING AN UPDATE ON THE LAST CAP STUDY, WHICH IS FASCINATING.

I MENTIONED EARLIER I SAW A LITTLE SNIPPET OF OF THAT STUDY AND I WAS VERY INTRIGUED WITH IT.

UM, SO IT WILL BE AN ONGOING DISCUSSION, AND CERTAINLY IT WILL BE ARTICULATED AS A STRONG PRIORITY BY THE COUNCIL AND BY STAFF TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. SO THANK YOU FOR RAISING IT.

YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

DON'T THINK. GOD IS ALWAYS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE DARK SKIES AND THE HOUSING WORKS. AND I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN LOOK INTO EXPANDING THE DBA BUDGET.

SO TALKING WITH HARRY, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY SHE IS LEAVING US, WHICH IS SAD, IS THAT SHE DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A BUDGET TO WORK WITH HERE, AND SHE'S MOVING TO A NEW MUNICIPALITY THAT HAS ONE, AND SHE'S VERY EXCITED FOR THAT.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE CAN LOOK INTO WAYS TO FIND.

TEAM. OF.

GREAT. COULD I JUST GET MYSELF INTO TROUBLE? I THINK, UM, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER.

UH, SWEET. UH, THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, YOU JUST ALL APPROVED THEIR DISTRICT THE OTHER NIGHT, AND THAT IS ONE WAY TO INCREASE HER, UM, HER MONEY THAT SHE CAN DO TO RUN THE DISTRICT.

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SO THAT IS DEFINITELY THE MOST SOLID WAY TO DO THAT.

IF WE AS A TEAM, IF ALL THE LEADERS HERE THAT WORK WITH THE DBA WERE TO SIT OUT AND WRITE DOWN HOW MUCH THEY RECEIVE IN ACTUAL EITHER LABOR OR, UM, FINANCIAL SUPPORT THROUGH SPONSORSHIPS, THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK IT WOULD BE SHOCKING TO YOU ON ON HOW LARGE THAT BUDGET IS, AND SO I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.

BUT, UM, HONESTLY, THE BEST SOLUTION IS FOR THE DISTRICT TO RAISE THAT PERCENTAGE.

TIDY. I THINK A COMPANION DISCUSSION ON THAT AS WELL, THAT I'M BEGINNING TO HEAR OF IS POSSIBLE EXPANSION OF INTO SOUTHSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, YOU KNOW, POSSIBILITY OF EITHER SEEING ANOTHER BID OR PERHAPS AN EXPANSION OF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ARTERY.

IT'S INTRIGUING. SO YEAH, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

OTHER COMMENTS.

YES, COUNCILMEMBER, I WANT TO GO BACK TO HOUSING.

YES, I ALWAYS WANT TO GO BACK TO, UM.

COUPLE OF THINGS. I KNOW THAT WE DID A TOUR OF ALL OF THE CITIES, UH, AVAILABLE LAND THAT WE HAVE.

SOME CAN BE USED FOR HOUSING, AND I WISH, UM, OR I WOULD LIKE TO, TO SEE THAT, UH, INFORMATION, AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE TO FIND IT.

SO IF YOU IF SOMEONE COULD.

IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, I COULD FIND IT.

UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT LAND WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND WHAT LAND MIGHT BE USED FOR US TO LOOK AT HOUSING.

UM, YEAH.

NOT DOING IT OURSELVES.

DOING A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

ALL OF THE ABOVE AND MORE.

SOMETHING I'M SURE SARAH CAN TOUCH ON.

OH, SARAH.

HI. THE LAND AVAILABILITY.

SO THE LAND AVAILABILITY AND SUITABILITY STUDY IS EXACTLY THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, WE'VE GONE THROUGH A COUPLE DRAFTS IS THE, UM.

OPPORTUNITY MAP, WITH CITY PARCELS BEING INCLUDED IN THAT.

SO INSTEAD OF DOING ONESIES AND TWOSIES OF LIKE THIS ONE WITH THIS ONE, BUT RATHER A, THE GOAL IS A COMPREHENSIVE THOUGHT PROCESS WITH THE LAND THAT WE OWN, AND WE HAVE SOME SITES THAT ARE 27 ACRES, BUT THEY HAVE MASSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES, AND WE HAVE OTHER SITES THAT ARE SMALLER, UM, WITH ACCESS TO INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS TO APPROACHING THOSE IS, IS VERY DIFFERENT.

UM, BUT THAT IS PART OF WHAT UNDERTAKING WITH THE LAST PART OF THE LAST CAP IN ADDITION TO THE REGULATORY REVIEW.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING YOU AS PART OF THE RESULTS OF THAT.

DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE ALREADY HAS INFRASTRUCTURE.

YES. AND WHICH ONES DON'T.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE ANALYSIS THAT GOES WITH IT.

AND WE'VE LOOKED AT WE DID THIS INFORMALLY IN THE PAST, BUT IT'S REALLY NICE TO HAVE A FIRM THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING INSTEAD OF US BEING LIKE, HEY, IT LOOKS LIKE.

SO, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE, ZONING, ACCESS TO TRANSIT, LIKE ALL THE NUMBER OF THINGS THAT TALK ABOUT MAY GO INTO DETERMINING HOW VIABLE A PIECES FOR DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT TYPE OF TIMELINE THAT SENSE.

YEAH. AND WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET THAT.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE DONE I BELIEVE, UM, THAT THE LAST PART IS SCHEDULED TO BE DONE, UM, BEFORE SUMMER.

SO I THINK THE TIMELINE SAYS SPRING 2024.

I'M PICTURING IT IN MY HEAD, BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S IN A SLIDE PRESENTATION YOU'RE GETTING ON TUESDAY.

AND OKAY, WELL, ALL RIGHT, LET ME KNOW.

UM, BUT I, I THINK IT IS IN THE SCHEDULE AND I WANT TO SAY IT'S IDENTIFIED SPRING.

IT MIGHT BE SPRING SUMMER, BUT IT'S IT'S IN THE WORKS.

I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN REALLY EXCITED AND ENCOURAGED BY WHAT WE'VE SEEN COME OUT OF THAT OPPORTUNITY MAPPING PROCESS.

WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY GREAT DISCUSSIONS.

MY LAST QUESTION, BUT THEN DID YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? WE ALSO HAVE A TOOL THAT I'LL SHARE WITH YOU THAT OUR REAL ESTATE PROGRAM HAS DEVELOPED.

AND SO WE I THINK WE CALL IT A STORY MAP, BUT IT'S A MAP OF EVERY CITY OWNED PROPERTY.

AND AS YOU HOVER OVER THE MAP, IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION, THE ACREAGE, UM, SOME INFORMATION ON SOME OF IT ABOUT HOW IT WAS ACQUIRED AND IF IT WAS ACQUIRED FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE.

AND SOME OF THEM ARE CATEGORIZED.

WE DID NOT CATEGORIZE, WE DID NOT CREATE A CATEGORY FOR HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH, YOU'LL SEE YOU'LL JUST BY LOOKING AT THE MAP, YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL SITES WHERE WE COULD DO SOME HOUSING.

AND I THINK THERE'S EVEN SOME INFORMATION ABOUT UTILITIES IN THAT AS WELL.

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UM, I'M SURE OUR CONSULTANT IS USING THAT MAP AS WELL, BUT, UM, IT'S A PUBLIC RESOURCE WE CREATED PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

THE ITERATIONS OF THAT MAP DID HAVE A CROSS HATCH LAYOVER FOR LAND DESIGNATED FOR HOUSING PURPOSES OR PURCHASED WITH MONEY RELEVANT HOUSING.

SO. THANK YOU SARA.

THANK YOU DAN. IN MY LAST COMMENT.

IF I CAN DO ANOTHER ONE.

OF COURSE. TRANSPORTATION.

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW.

AND I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE WORK BETTER WITH MOUNTAIN LINE TO EXTEND ROUTES? UM, I WAS JUST IN MILWAUKEE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND, UM.

WHAT THEY'RE DOING SOME GREAT THINGS WITH THEIR TRANSIT IN TERMS OF HOW THEY MAKE IT AVAILABLE AND HOW THEY I KNOW WE'RE NOT AS BIG AS MILWAUKEE, SO I GET THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEVER AT LEAST TRY TO DO SOMETHING, WE NEVER WILL.

AND SO IT'D BE NICE TO SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN WORK WITH MOUNTAIN LINE TO EXTEND THOSE ROUTES, WHICH WOULD GIVE US A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF HOUSING AND PEOPLE GETTING TO AND FROM WHERE THEY NEED TO GET TO, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FREQUENCY.

SO ANYWAY, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, I AGREE WITH, UH, HEATHER FREQUENTLY, AND I KNOW WE CAN SCHEDULE A TIME TO HAVE SOME.

AUDIENCE WITH COUNCIL AND TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS.

AND I THINK THAT COULD PROBABLY SEGUE NICELY ALSO INTO A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE 2024 BALLOT MEASURE THAT MOUNTAIN LION IS CONTEMPLATING ON.

UH COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

I KNOW YOU'RE QUITE INVOLVED WITH METROPLAN, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING WITH MOUNTAIN LION THAT THESE TWO 80S.

THESE TWO? YEAH.

UM, BUT ON THE QUESTION OF TRANSIT AND ROUTES, I'M SURE EVERYBODY'S READ THAT MOUNTAIN LION.

WE'VE HAD TO. USE TWO OF OUR ROUTES BECAUSE OF OUR SHORTAGE OF DRIVERS.

YEAH. AND ALL THE STUDIES HAVE POINTS US BACK TO FREQUENCY, UM, OVER ADDING MORE ROUTES AT THIS TIME. UM, JUST TO INCREASE THE RIDERSHIP AND THE, THE, THE PRINT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, TO BOOST THAT UP.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF, UH, COMMUNITY INPUT ABOUT HAVING, UM, FARE FREE RIDES, UM, WHICH WOULD EQUATE TO ABOUT, UM, $800,000 OUT OF OUR BUDGET.

SO, UH, NOT THAT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TIE THAT TO THE BOND QUESTION, BUT A LOT OF VARIABLES OUT THERE THAT WILL IMPACT THINGS TO HELP.

UM, I THINK EVERYONE ON THE BOARD OF MOUNTAIN LION WANTS TO INCREASE ROUTES TO DIFFERENT AREAS TO REACH OUT TO THEM, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO IN OUR CURRENT, UH, SERVICE AREA.

UM, TO JUST REALLY BE EFFECTIVE IN THAT, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD BEFORE I GO TO MY BIG LIST? I THINK THAT HAVING HEATHER COME AND DO A PRESENTATION AND TALK ABOUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION.

WE'VE BEEN STUDYING IT.

OFFERING IT TO YOU WOULD PROBABLY HELP.

IT WOULD BE GOOD.

YEAH, WE'LL MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

THANK YOU. REMEMBER BIG LIST? UM, I WANT TO, UM, THUMBS UP ON DARK SIDE SKIES INITIATIVE AGAIN.

AND THEN, UM, ALSO DBA.

UM, I THINK THERE'S STILL MORE OF A DISCUSSION ON THAT.

UM, I THINK WE DON'T BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE IT DAY TO DAY.

WE DON'T REALIZE THE IMPACT THAT THAT TAX, UM, AREA AND THOSE LOCAL BUSINESSES ELECTED TO AN EXTRA TAX ON THEMSELVES.

AND WHAT THAT DOES TO JUST THE EXPERIENCE OF, OF OUR COMMUNITY AND TOURISM.

BUT, UM, MY MAIN FOCUS, AS ALWAYS, IS HOUSING.

AND I LOVE THAT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.

UM, I MENTIONED TO SARAH THAT, UM, IN THIS HIGH INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT, I'M HOPING THAT, UM, THE, THE HOUSING BOND COMMITTEE WILL COME BACK WITH MAYBE A RATE BUY DOWN OF AN INCENTIVE, UM, AS OPPOSED TO OR IN ADDITION TO, UM, PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, A 7% INTEREST RATE, IT'S IT'S A WHOLE NOTHER GROUP OF POTENTIAL BUYERS OUT OF THE MARKET.

UM, AND THAT MIGHT BE MORE IMPACTFUL FOR THEM.

UM, I MENTIONED IT ALREADY.

UM, I'M VERY CURIOUS TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT, UH, INCENTIVIZING, UH, LOCAL AIRBNB, UM, HOMEOWNERS TO, UM, CHANGE TO LONG TERME SAYS.

AND AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO THERE'S NOT ONE SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO ADD, YOU KNOW, JUST SO MANY THINGS OUT THERE THAT

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COST TO BUILD IS STILL REALLY HIGH.

I'VE BEEN GIVEN NUMBERS THAT JUST TO BREAK EVEN FOR A HOMEOWNER OR A HOME BUILDER, IT'S I THINK 500,000.

AND SO TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH A COST OF LABOR AND THE COST OF MATERIALS, UM, AND BUT I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THAT WITH SOME OF OUR, UM, FEES AND, AND PROCESSES AT A CITY LEVEL AND, UM, OF THE PRIVATE, UH, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR LAND. AND JUST, UH, MAYBE I KNOW WE HAVE STILL SOME POCKETS OF, OF LAND THAT ARE COUNTY OR STATE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

AND SINCE WE ARE BEHIND WITH THAT, UM, SO I JUST I REALLY THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF REALLY CREATIVE THINKING.

UM, I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF YOUR PAST COLLEAGUES AND ACTUALLY, UM, ARE THERE THAT THAT YOU WEREN'T FAMILIAR WITH, BUT OVER IN COLORADO ABOUT THAT, UM, TAX, UH, THEY'VE DONE AMAZING THINGS WITH THAT, I THINK LEGALLY IN ARIZONA MAYBE.

INVITATION FOR US, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT.

I THINK THAT, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD VOTE ON THAT TO SAY, YEAH, IF WE COULD HAVE A, UM, HALF A PERCENT OR A QUARTER PERCENT OF OUR LOCAL TAX, UH, GO TO HOUSING INCENTIVES, UH, BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WORKFORCE HOUSING, UM, I'D LIKE TO PURSUE THAT.

AND JUST THAT ALL JUST KIND OF TIES INTO HOUSING, HOUSING, HOUSING.

BECAUSE I JUST SEE US GOING MORE AND MORE IN DEFICIT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'M I DON'T THINK I'LL EVER GET USED TO THE LENGTH OF TIME IT TAKES FOR GOVERNMENT WORK, BUT IT REALLY MAKES ME LOSE SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE IT JUST LIKE EVERYTHING SEEMS TO TAKE SUCH A LONG TIME.

AND I KNOW THAT'S NO FAULT OF ANYONE'S, BUT IF WE DON'T DO A LOT OF THINGS AND TRY TO URGENCY TO IT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO JUST KEEP DIGGING THAT HOLE.

AND, UH, I KNOW DIRECTLY PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING ON THEIR FEET AND WANTING TO STAY HERE AND FLAGSTAFF ARE LEAVING THE AREA BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO, AND NOT JUST LEAVING THE AREA TO GO RIGHT ON THE OUTSKIRTS.

THEY'RE LEAVING THE STATE BECAUSE THEY CANNOT, UH, SUPPORT THEIR FAMILY HERE.

AND I THINK THAT I WORRY THAT WE'RE BECOMING A VERY ELITIST.

UH. ON HERE THAT YOU EITHER HAVE IT.

IF YOU DON'T, YOU CAN'T STAY HERE.

AND I DON'T WANT US TO BE THAT KIND OF CITY.

UH, AND SO I REALLY JUST.

I WAS CRAZY TO HEAR JUST SO MANY, UH, PEOPLE SAYING THE WORD HOUSING.

UM, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO NOT JUST TALK ABOUT IT, BUT ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD STUFF TO REALLY PUSH IT THROUGH.

AND THAT'LL TAKE COLLECTIVELY, ALL OF US.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I WAS GOING TO SAY JUST A FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

I WISH I COULD FIND ALL THE RETIRED PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE ANY FINANCIAL BACKGROUND, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SKIN IN THE GAME AS AS YOU SAY, UH, THEY'RE JUST THEY WANT TO TAKE ALL THAT KNOWLEDGE AND GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY THAT THEY'VE ACCUMULATED OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS. UH, AND JUST GET THEM ALL IN THE ROOM AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.

I MEAN, TO ME, THAT WOULD BE FASCINATING, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO LOSE, NOTHING TO GAIN.

THEY'RE NOT INVESTING IN ANYTHING.

THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANY MONEY.

THEY'RE JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THEY THINK.

AND YOU CAN TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.

AND WE MIGHT BE SURPRISED AT WHAT THEY COME UP WITH.

VERY CREATIVE. MAYBE I'LL TRY AND DO THAT.

YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR, TO ARGUE ABOUT THE, UM, SHORT TUM RENTAL AND AN INCENTIVE TO PAY TO GET THEM TO TURN IT INTO A LONG TIME RENTAL.

BUT COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM SEDONA HAVE TOLD ME IT HASN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL, BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU CAN MAKE IN SHORT TUM RENTALS SO OUTWEIGHS WHAT THE CITY CAN AFFORD TO GIVE YOU AS AN INCENTIVE.

IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE SHOULDN'T INCLUDE IT IN IN WHAT WE, UM, WHAT WE LOOK AT, BUT I GET A LOT OF EMAILS FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE HEARD ABOUT THAT AND ARE LIKE, THIS IS THE THING THAT FLAGSTAFF HAS TO DO.

AND I JUST HEARD ABOUT IT.

SO I'M GLAD TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, WELL, IF THAT IS WORKING GREAT, GRANITE SAID.

NOT SIGNED UP FOR IT.

BUT AGAIN, JUST LIKE AT WORK, DID IT NOT WORK? AND. THE IDEA IS FUN.

JOANNE, ANYTHING TO ADD? HEARD IT ON THE NEWS THIS MORNING.

IT MUST BE HAVING SOME SUCCESS.

OKAY. SO I CONTACTED THEIR STAFF.

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FUNNY LADY. OTHER COMMENTS.

UM, THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT RETREAT.

IN A MINUTE I'LL TURN IT BACK TO JEFF TO.

HE CAN OFFER HIS CLOSING COMMENTS, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO STRUCTURE A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

UH, HERE, BEFORE WE CONCLUDE, THE LAST THING I WANT TO MENTION AND I'LL SIT DOWN IS, UM, NICOLE, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE NAILED THE RIDDLE. OKAY.

$3.50 PER LEG.

OKAY, LET'S GIVE HER A VIRTUAL ON THE BACK.

EACH. THANK YOU.

GREG. UM, AND EVERYONE IN HERE BEFORE BEFORE WE EVEN GET INTO TO CLOSING AND GETTING INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

UH, THERE'S ONE THING THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE ROOM.

MANY THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING IN THE ROOM THAT HAVE IMPRESSED ME.

BUT ONE THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE ROOM THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU AND IT STACEY OVER HERE, OKAY, SHE'S BEEN TYPING THE ENTIRE TIME.

OKAY. WHICH IS WHICH IS AMAZING.

SHE'S NOT MISSED A BEAT.

HASN'T MISSED A WORD.

OH, IT'S A SHOPPING LIST.

YEAH. OH, WE NEED TO GIVE HER A ROUND.

I CAN GUARANTEE THAT IF WE WERE PASSING OUT AN AWARD FOR THE PERSON THAT WAS THE MOST ENGAGED THE ENTIRE TIME, IT WOULD BE HER, RIGHT? GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND EVERYONE WHO PRESENTED PLEASE ROUND ALSO.

APPRECIATE IT. THIS HAS BEEN.

THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY FUN, FUN, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, UH, INFORMATIVE PROCESS FOR ME.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF YOU IN THE ROOM THAT I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF INTERVIEWING A TIME OR TWO OR 3 OR 4, AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS GENERALLY RAN ABOUT 11 TO 13 MINUTES.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT A SEGMENT IS.

AND SOMETIMES IF I ASK YOU TO STAY OVER, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN 25 OR 30 MINUTES.

AND IN THAT TIME WE WERE ABLE TO TO COVER SOME STUFF.

I LEARNED SOME THINGS ABOUT YOU, AND MAYBE YOU LEARNED 1 OR 2 THINGS ABOUT ME, BUT HOPEFULLY WE PROVIDED OUR OUR LISTENERS WITH THE INFORMATION THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR.

SO TO COME INTO THIS ROOM AND SPEND ALL DAY WITH DECISION MAKERS AND PLANNERS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE FORWARDLY THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY FROM ALL OF THESE LAYERS, HAS BEEN A REALLY FUN AND INFORMATIVE EXERCISE FOR ME, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

I ALWAYS SAY, YOU KNOW, TIME AND ATTENTION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

WE DO WANT TO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT OF JUST A FEW MOMENTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT AT THE END OF THAT, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU FOR ONE MORE THING.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS.

THEN AT THE END OF THAT, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU FOR FIVE MORE MINUTES, OKAY? AND DURING THIS FIVE MINUTES, ALL I WANT YOU TO DO IS JUST KIND OF COUNCIL AND EVERYONE AT THIS TABLE KIND OF SQUEEZE TOGETHER.

AND THEN I WANT EVERYONE IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM TO COME FORWARD AND KIND OF GET AROUND THEM, BECAUSE I NEED TWO PHOTOS.

TWO PHOTOS. I NEED ONE PHOTO THAT HAS THAT LOOK LIKE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, RIGHT? SO I WANT THAT PHOTO THAT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GETTING STUFF DONE.

THAT'S DONE.

AND THEN THE SECOND PHOTO IS, AND WE'RE HAVING FUN AND ENJOYING EACH OTHER'S COMPANY DOING IT.

OKAY. SO ONE KIND OF SERIOUS AND ONE MAYBE A LITTLE GOOFY CAN CAN I GET THAT FROM YOU? YEAH. YES. ALL RIGHT.

AND LISTEN, I AM TAKING NOTES.

SO IF ANYONE SNEAKS OUT OF THE ROOM PRIOR TO THE PICTURE, OKAY, YELL FROM ME.

SO, SO WITH THAT. SO THAT'S THE LAST THING THAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO AFTER.

FAIR ENOUGH. THAT'S, UH.

TOPIC. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE.

IF NO PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY.

THAT'S IT. COUNCIL EXPECTATION.

INCENTIVE AND EMPLOYEE INVESTMENTS.

DID WE GO OVER THAT? JUST ITEMS WE PUT IN THERE TO KIND OF PROMPT DISCUSSIONS.

A GOOD DISCUSSION ON BOTH OF THEM.

UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING FURTHER YOU'D LIKE TO ADD.

AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY.

UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE.

THANK YOU FOR, LIKE I SAID, THIS, THIS TIME, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T SEE AND UNDERSTAND HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS.

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ALL OF THAT MATTERS, RIGHT? OKAY. BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

EVERY SINGLE PERSON OUT THERE, EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN OUR COMMUNITY, EVERYONE, THEY MATTER, WHETHER THEY AGREE WITH YOU OR NOT, WHETHER THEY VOTE FOR YOU OR NOT, THEY MATTER.

SO LET'S ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT.

SO WITH THAT, GUESS WHAT? IT'S LIKE AN HOUR EARLY.

IS IT GREAT? ADJOURNED.

SO DON'T LEAVE WITHOUT THE PHOTO.

YEAH. PICTURES.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.