Mar 19, 2024 City Council Meeting

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I'M CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND GIVING NOTICE THAT THE COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE

[1. CALL TO ORDER NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this regular meeting, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for discussion and consultation with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]

IT WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

CAN I GET ROLL CALL, PLEASE? THANK YOU. I WAS THROWN FOR A MINUTE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? IT WOULD BE MY HONOR. PLEASE STAND IF YOU'RE ABLE.

ALLEGIANCE].

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

WOULD YOU READ OUR MISSION STATEMENT? YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE, COULD YOU READ THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT? HARRIS, ONE OF YOU HAS TO CHANGE YOUR LAST NAME FROM AN H.

IT WOULD BE MY HONOR.

MAYOR. THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THIS AREA'S INDIGENOUS NATIONS AND ORIGINAL STEWARDS. THESE LANDS, STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS, BORDER MOUNTAINS SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.

WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.

WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE IS HOME.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING INTO ITEM NUMBER 4.A

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS]

DO. ARE THERE ANY MINUTES THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO TALK ABOUT? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAYOR. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AND THAT ECHO IS COMING FROM.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC.

[5. OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC Open Call to the Public enables the public to address the Council about an item that is not on the prepared agenda. Comments relating to items that are on the agenda will be taken at the time that the item is discussed. Open Call to the Public appears on the agenda twice, at the beginning and at the end. The total time allotted for the first Open Call to the Public is 30 minutes; any additional comments will be held until the second Open Call to the Public. If you wish to address the Council in person at today's meeting, please complete a comment card and submit it to the recording clerk as soon as possible. Your name will be called when it is your turn to speak. You may address the Council up to three times throughout the meeting, including comments made during Open Call to the Public and Public Comment. Please limit your remarks to three minutes per item to allow everyone an opportunity to speak. At the discretion of the Chair, ten or more persons present at the meeting and wishing to speak may appoint a representative who may have no more than fifteen minutes to speak.]

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA WILL BE TAKEN LATER AT THE TIME THAT THE ITEM IS DISCUSSED.

OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC APPEARS ON THE AGENDA TWICE AT THE BEGINNING AND AT THE END.

THE TOTAL TIME ALLOTTED FOR THE FIRST OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC IS 30 MINUTES.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS WILL BE HELD UNTIL THE SECOND OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC.

SO, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO US DURING OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC, PLEASE FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD.

YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THERE IS A CLOCK RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

FIRST UP IS PHIL GOLDBLATT.

MAYOR, DAGGETT VICE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO ADVOCATE FOR THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION THAT WOULD AMEND THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN TO MAKE FIRES, FLOODING AND DROUGHT PRIORITIES WITHIN THAT PLAN.

I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT ALL OF YOU READ THE MORE DETAILED PAPER.

I HAVE ALREADY SENT YOU IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING.

YOU WILL SEE THAT ONLY THE WHOLE STATE AND NATION CAN ADEQUATELY ADDRESS MITIGATION OF CO2 TO PREVENT FURTHER GLOBAL WARMING, AND THE EMISSIONS FROM FLAGSTAFF ARE ONLY MINUSCULE COMPARED WITH WHAT THE POWER COMPANIES EMIT AND THE FUELS THAT OIL COMPANIES SELL.

THE TRANSITION THAT THE WHOLE NATION NEEDS TO ACCOMPLISH WILL REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER TIME THAN THE 2030 GOAL OF BOTH OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND OUR REGIONAL PLAN.

HERE IS A SUMMARY OF THE FOUR MAIN SECTIONS OF MY ANALYSIS PAPER.

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THE COMMITMENT OF THE THREE MAJOR ARIZONA POWER COMPANIES IS NET ZERO BY 2050.

THEY CANNOT MITIGATE CO TWO BY 2030, NOR CAN THEY TRANSITION TO ALL RENEWABLE AND CLEAN ENERGY SOON ENOUGH.

FLAGSTAFF IS ONLY A SMALL FRACTION, ABOUT 2.5% OF THE CO2 THEY EMIT.

SECTION TWO IS ON THE TRANSMISSION LINE COMPANIES.

THE NEEDS ARE UNMET BECAUSE THEY ARE UNABLE TO CONSTRUCT ENOUGH ADDITIONAL HIGH VOLTAGE POWER LINES IN ARIZONA TO ENABLE THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF RENEWABLE POWER BEFORE 2030 BUT PLANS NATIONWIDE WILL EMERGE FOR SURE.

SECTION THREE IS ON THE MEDICINES AND PLASTICS.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TECHNOLOGICALLY, TECHNOLOGICALLY TO PRODUCE CURRENT LEVELS OF PETROCHEMICALS WITHOUT ALSO PRODUCING FOSSIL FUELS LIKE GASOLINE.

PETROCHEMICALS ARE NECESSARY TO MAKE THE LEVELS OF MEDICINES, PLASTICS AND SURFACTANTS THAT US SOCIETY REQUIRES.

THE TRANSITION WILL NEED NEW TECHNOLOGY, EQUIPMENT AND RENOVATION OF REFINERIES.

WHEN DEMAND FOR FUELS DECREASES SIGNIFICANTLY, THEY MAY COME AROUND, BUT NOT BEFORE ABOUT 2040, IF THAT.

AND THEN THE LAST SECTION IS ON THE CLIMATE SCIENCE ITSELF.

THE ACTUAL SERIOUS EFFECTS OF GLOBAL WARMING WILL NOT OCCUR UNTIL AFTER ABOUT 2080.

THEREFORE, IT IS BETTER TO ALIGN OURSELVES WITH THE 2050 GOALS.

SIMILARLY TO OTHER NATIONS, THE MAIN THREATS TO FLAGSTAFF FROM GLOBAL WARMING ARE FOREST FIRES, POST-WILDFIRE, FLOODING, AND DROUGHT.

THESE THREATS CAN BE ALLEVIATED THROUGH ADAPTIVE METHODS.

WHOLESALE CHANGE AND CHANGES IN OUR TOTAL ECONOMY ARE UNREALISTIC.

BEFORE THEN, I WOULD AGREE WITH VOLUNTARY EFFORTS TO ENCOURAGE CLEAN ENERGY USAGE, OTHERWISE MANY WILL SUFFER WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION.

SO, IN CLOSING, BECAUSE THIS WHOLE ANALYSIS.

BUT YOU HAVE THE REST OF IT IN FRONT OF YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. GOLDBLATT.

THANK YOU, NADINE HART.

GOOD AFTERNOON AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MIRANDA.

THAT'S WONDERFUL.

SO, I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I AM AN EMPLOYEE OF FUSD.

AS AN AUXILIARY TEACHER, I HAVE THE BENEFIT TO MOVE IN DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, AND I'M ALWAYS LOOKING TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND AS OF TODAY, I WANT TO INFORM YOU THERE ARE 23 OPENINGS FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHERS, 11 FOR HIGH SCHOOL TEACHERS, SEVEN FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHERS. WHY ARE THERE SO MANY OPENINGS? IT'S NOT BECAUSE THESE TEACHERS DON'T LOVE THEIR STUDENTS AND ARE NOT LOYAL TO FLAGSTAFF.

THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE ANYMORE.

THE TEACHERS I HAVE SPOKEN TO AT COCONINO HIGH SCHOOL WITH TEARS IN THEIR EYES, ARE RELOCATING TO PLACES LIKE TUCSON.

THEY'RE GOING HOME TO ALASKA.

ONE OF THE TEACHERS I WORK WITH ACTUALLY HAD TO HAVE HER MOM SEND PLATO FROM ALASKA, BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T AFFORD TO BUY IT OUT OF HER OWN POCKET.

SHE IS ONE OF THE BEST STUDENTS OR TEACHERS I'VE EVER ENCOUNTERED IN MY TIME AS A PARENT AND AS A PROFESSIONAL, AND SHE HAS TO LEAVE BECAUSE SHE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE AND, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AS ONE OF THE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER HOLDERS.

I'M LUCKY TO BE WHERE I AM.

MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS CLOSE TO SCHOOLS LIKE SEACREST, MARSHALL, FLAGG HIGH.

WE'VE GOT FJA, YOU CAN RIDE YOUR BIKE TO COCO, MEMS. THERE'RE TWO CHARTER SCHOOLS, SYDNEY'S PRIVATE SCHOOL UP ON THE HILL, AND THESE TEACHERS ARE ALSO FEELING THE PUSH.

UNFORTUNATELY, MY NEIGHBORHOOD ISN'T HOME TO THEM BECAUSE IT'S HOME TO SHORT TERM RENTALS.

WE HAVE I HAVE AIRBNBS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THESE PLACES COULD BE OCCUPIED FOR OUR TEACHERS.

THE ARIZONA DAILY SUN HAD A GREAT ARTICLE ABOUT SOME OF THE COLLEAGUES I'VE WORKED FOR.

SYDNEY OVER HERE. HER TEACHER, MR. MAKOWSKI, IS PRACTICALLY LIVING IN A CLOSET.

HE'S A PROFESSIONAL, A GRADUATE.

HE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.

IT'S HEARTBREAKING.

ONE OF THE PRINCIPALS LIVES PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS WAY FOR EDUCATORS.

AND IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING, IF YOU GUYS DON'T DO SOMETHING.

WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED TO TRANSPORTATION FOR FUSD.

THERE'RE FAMILIES WHO LIVING IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THEIR KIDS COULD NOW WALK TO SCHOOL AND HAVE THAT OPTION.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE SCOPE OF OUR SCHOOLS? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO AN ONLINE FORMAT BECAUSE THE TEACHERS HAVE TO TEACH FROM PHOENIX OR ALASKA? I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF CRUSHING.

SO, I HOPE THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER WHAT I SEE DAY TO DAY, TEN HOUSES THAT HAVE.

WELCOME, WELCOME TO OUR VISITORS.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN COME FROM BALTIMORE, YOU CAN COME FROM PHOENIX, YOU CAN OCCUPY THIS, THIS HOUSE AND CREATE YOUR OWN MEMORIES WITH YOUR FAMILY AND LEAVE.

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WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE FOR YOU.

I'M SORRY.

SO, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU TODAY, BECAUSE THAT WAS SHOCKING THIS MORNING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ADRIANA FISHER.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M ADRIANA FISHER, AND I'M THE HOUSING PROGRAM MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HOUSING SECTION.

I'M EXCITED TO SHARE SOME NEWS WITH YOU ABOUT THE LAUNCH OF OUR NEW WEB PAGE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, WHICH HIGHLIGHTS HOME SHARING, RESOURCES, PER FARE ITEM REQUESTS, AND A STRATEGY ON THE TEN-YEAR HOUSING PLAN.

PROTECT 3.4.

STAFF HAVE CONDUCTED EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS OF POTENTIAL HOME SHARING PROGRAMS TO SUPPLEMENT THE EXISTING HOUSING MODELS ALREADY IN OUR COMMUNITY. IN CASE YOU'RE UNFAMILIAR.

HOME SHARING IS A RENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN A HOMEOWNER WITH EXTRA LIVING SPACE AND ONE OR MORE INDIVIDUALS NEEDING HOUSING.

THIS MODEL OF HOUSING BENEFITS HOMEOWNERS WHO REQUIRE OR DESIRE ADDITIONAL INCOME, DEPENDING ON THE AGREEMENT.

HOMEOWNERS MAY ALSO BENEFIT FROM ASSISTANCE WITH DAILY CHORES SUCH AS CLEANING, TAKING OUT THE TRASH, SHOVELING SNOW, ET CETERA.

HOME SHARING IS ALSO BENEFICIAL TO HOME SEEKERS BY ALLOWING THEM TO LIVE IN A HOME THEY CAN AFFORD IN AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD, AND POTENTIALLY CLOSER TO AMENITIES LIKE TRANSPORTATION, MEDICAL CARE, AND SHOPPING CENTERS.

THE NEW WEB PAGE FEATURES HOME SHARING PLATFORMS, SIMILAR RENTAL RESOURCES, AND A LINK TO THE CITY'S FAIR HOUSING WEB PAGE.

YOU CAN ACCESS THE WEBSITE BY GOING TO YOU READY? FLAGSTAFF.AZ.GOV/4916/HOME SHARING-RESOURCES OR BY GOING TO OUR MAIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING WEB PAGE, WHICH CAN BE FOUND UNDER RESIDENTS ON THE CITY'S MAIN PAGE.

HOUSING STAFF HAVE NOTIFIED THE COMMUNITY AND POTENTIAL STAKEHOLDERS OF THIS NEW RESOURCE THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS, PHONE CALLS FOLLOWED BY EMAILS AND THE CONTINUUM OF CARE.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO EXPANDING OUR OUTREACH IN THE FUTURE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

NEXT UP WE HAVE TOM PIERSON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR DAGGETT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT, ACTUALLY, TO STEP BACK FROM THE ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SWIRLING AROUND US AND PUT THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION INTO A LARGER CONTEXT. I HAVE TO CONFESS, I NAIVELY ASSUMED THAT OUR PETITION WOULD BE AGREED UPON BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

AFTER ALL, AREN'T WE ALL IN FAVOR OF ADDRESSING THE CHALLENGES OF WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT? THE PETITION WAS NOT INVENTING ANYTHING NEW, BUT SIMPLY ATTEMPTING TO RESTORE PREVIOUS POLICIES THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED BY YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A DIAGRAM OF HOW THAT CAME ABOUT.

SO ORIGINALLY, AND THESE ARE THINGS I THINK WE ALL AGREE ON.

SUSTAINABILITY IS THE GOAL.

THE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY OF FLAGSTAFF CLIMATE ACTION IS THE PROCESS.

THAT'S THE GLOBAL TITLE FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED.

IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO TWO PARTS MITIGATION AND ADAPTATION.

AND THIS WAS THE ORGANIZATION OF THE 2018 CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN.

IT THE NAME SAYS THAT IT HAD BOTH MITIGATION AND ADAPTATION IN A BALANCED APPROACH.

BUT WHEN WE WENT TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, THIS PART WAS LEFT OUT.

IT'S NOT IN THERE.

IT'S IN THERE A LITTLE BIT.

THE CLIMATE, THE FOREST MITIGATION WAS ADDED WITH A LATER CHANGE.

BUT PREDOMINANTLY THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN IS JUST THIS SECTION ALONE.

THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THAT MAKES THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION MORE RELEVANT OR TIMELIER THAN THE RECENT J.E.

FULLER AND NOW WILDFIRE CRISIS STUDIES.

THESE WERE RECENTLY BRIEFED TO BOTH THE COCONINO COUNTY SUPERVISORS AND TO YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THE RESULTS WERE, FRANKLY, DEVASTATING.

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I CAN'T IMAGINE ANY MORE COMPELLING ARGUMENT FOR ADDING WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT BACK INTO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE DO THAT, AND I THINK IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE AND SOMETHING THAT WOULD ONLY BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, VERY MUCH AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY, COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

THANK YOU.

DENNIS GIVENS.

THANKS A LOT, MAYOR DAGGETT, CITY COUNCIL STAFF AND CITIZENS.

I JUST CAME HERE TODAY TO READ SOME PASSAGES FROM MY FAVORITE BOOK, THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

THE. ONE OF THE PASSAGES I WOULD LIKE TO READ IS THE PREAMBLE.

IT SAYS WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, IN ORDER TO FORM A MORE PERFECT UNION, ESTABLISH JUSTICE, ENSURE DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY, PROVIDE FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, AND SECURE THE BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY TO OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY, DO ORDAIN AND ESTABLISH THIS CONSTITUTION FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND THEN I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND READ MY FAVORITE AMENDMENT.

EXCUSE ME. I DROPPED MY BOOKMARK.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

IT'S MY FAVORITE ONE. I WENT TO NYU, AND I DID A LOT OF I HAD A LOT OF CLASSES IN FIRST AMENDMENT PLAZA.

SO, IT REALLY IS TRUE TO MY HEART THAT THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD BE READ OUT LOUD.

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF, OR ABRIDGING THE FREE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, OR OF THE PRESS, OR OF THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO PEACEFULLY TO ASSEMBLE AND TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR A REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES.

I REALLY THINK WHAT WE SHOULD SAY NO TO THEOCRACY, NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION, BE IT CHRISTIANITY, YOU KNOW, OTHER RELIGIONS AS WELL.

AND I JUST LIKE TO TELL A STORY ABOUT JOSEPH SMITH, JR.

HE ACTUALLY WAS MURDERED BECAUSE HE VIOLATED THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

AND OH LORD, MY GOD, IS THERE NO HELP FOR THE WIDOW'S SON? SO, I THINK WE JUST SHOULD SAY NO TO THEOCRACY.

AND WE WANT DEMOCRACY FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA.

LET'S GO US.

THANK YOU EVERYONE. HAVE A GREAT DAY.

BJ DEMPSEY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR DAGGETT, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY.

I'M HERE TO BRIEFLY SPEAK ON THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION TO AMEND THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND TO BRING WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT.

THIS PETITION THAT WE HAVE FORTH IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL RIGHT NOW, I THINK, GOES DIRECTLY TO THE MISSION STATEMENT OF TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF THE SAFETY AND ENSURING THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY, OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITIZENS AND OUR CHILDREN.

THIS IS SO IMPORTANT, AND I THINK IS DIRECTLY NOT STATED IN SAFETY IN THE MISSION STATEMENT, HOWEVER, IMPLIED THAT SAFETY IS SOMETHING THAT ALWAYS NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED AS A TOP PRIORITY WHEN ADDRESSING THE ISSUES WITHIN OUR WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.

WILDFIRE, FLOODING, AND DROUGHT HAS BEEN SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED AS POSSIBLY THE LARGEST IMMEDIATE THREAT TO OUR BEAUTIFUL MOUNTAIN TOWN.

THE MOST RECENT STUDY INDICATING THE HUGE ENVIRONMENTAL AND FINANCIAL DEVASTATION A NEW FIRE COULD HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, AN IMPACT THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED UP TO $2.8 BILLION.

THIS DEVASTATION COULD HAVE.

SUCH IMPACTS TO FLAGSTAFF THAT IT WOULD TAKE YEARS OR POSSIBLY EVEN DECADES TO RECOVER, IF EVER.

NOT ONLY INFRASTRUCTURE WISE, BUT ALSO FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS TO OUR TAXPAYERS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS BUSINESSES THAT WE'VE SEEN THROUGH.

OTHER ISSUES LIKE COVID HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO COME BACK TO THE SAME WHEN THERE IS DEVASTATION AND SHUTDOWNS THAT INHIBIT THEIR ABILITY TO CONTINUE WITH BUSINESS, AS IS. FLAGSTAFF FIRST EFFORTS TO MODIFY THE CITY'S CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN HAVE NEVER BEEN TO ELIMINATE THE EFFORTS TO COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE, RATHER THAN TO CONTINUE THE FOCUS ON ADDITIONAL FLAGSTAFF COMMON SPECIFIC ACTION ITEMS. THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, I VERY MUCH BELIEVE, WOULD BE SO SEVERELY INHIBITED BY OUR SINGLE GREATEST ALLY TO CARBON NEUTRALITY, WHICH IS OUR FORESTS THROUGH HERE.

THOSE ARE SUCH GREAT RESOURCES THAT ARE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THE CARBON IN THE AIR.

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CARBON THEMSELVES.

THROUGH MASSIVE WILDFIRES, WE WOULD BE GETTING SETBACKS SO MUCH ON THE PROGRESS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE HAD.

AS LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY, I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE TOUGH AND DIFFICULT DECISIONS EACH ONE OF YOU ARE FACED ON A DAILY BASIS.

THE PEOPLE OF FLAGSTAFF HAVE PUT THEIR FAITH IN EVERY ONE OF YOU HERE TO HELP GUIDE US TO A PROSPEROUS FUTURE AND OUR WONDERFUL MOUNTAIN TOWN.

WHEN CONSIDERING FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION TO PRIORITIZE WILDFIRE, FLOODING, AND DROUGHT ON THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, I ENCOURAGE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO STEP OUTSIDE, TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND LOOK AT OUR GLORIOUS FORESTS AND MAKE SURE WE KEEP THOSE FOR EVERYBODY, INCLUDING OUR CHILDREN, GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JAMES SCHWEIKERT.

TESTING. ONE, TWO.

HELLO, MAYOR DAGGETT.

HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

PERFECT HAWAIIAN THEME.

JUST PERFECT FOR WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.

MY TOPIC IS.

LET'S NOT. LAHAINA FLAGSTAFF.

SEE WHAT I MEAN? ARE WE DOING ALL THAT WE MUST TO ADAPT TO CLIMATE CHANGE? EMPHATICALLY, NO.

WE STILL HAVE SANDBAGS DEPLOYED ALL OVER TOWN TO SAVE OUR HOMES FROM FLOODING.

AND THERE'S THE CONSTANT THREAT OF WILDFIRE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS EVERY YEAR.

LAHAINA MAUI IS AN IMMEDIATE OBJECT LESSON FOR US NOW THAT DEVASTATING WILDFIRES OF WHAT THEY CAN BE.

OVER 100 MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN PERISHED AND UPWARDS OF $4 BILLION IN ECONOMIC LOSSES WERE SUFFERED IN A COMMUNITY OF LESS THAN 12,000. AND WHY WILDLAND TREATMENT AND BIOMASS REMOVAL WERE CONSIDERED A LOWER PRIORITY THAN CARBON NEUTRALITY AS CLAY. AND I'M GOING TO BUTCHER THE NAME CLAY, A TRUE NERD, TREURNICHT, A UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT EXPERT, SAID, QUOTE, HAWAII'S FIRE PROBLEM IS DUE TO THE VAST AREAS OF UNMANAGED, NON-NATIVE GRASSLANDS FROM DECADES OF DECLINING AGRICULTURE.

THE TRANSFORMATION TO SAVANNA MAKES THE LANDSCAPE WAY MORE SENSITIVE TO BAD FIRE WEATHER HOT, DRY, WINDY CONDITIONS.

IT ALSO MEANS WE GET HUGE BUILD UPS OF FUEL DURING RAINY PERIODS.

THIS WAS THE UNDERLYING CAUSE OF THOSE DEVASTATING FIRES.

INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH THE MUNDANE TASK OF CLEARING BIOMASS AND ABANDONED CANE AND PINEAPPLE FIELDS, HAWAII HAS FOCUSED LIKE A LASER BEAM ON CARBON NEUTRALITY.

IN 2019, HAWAII BECAME THE FIRST STATE TO DECLARE THE GOAL OF ACHIEVING 100% CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2045 AND 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY BY 2050.

TREATMENT OF THE SAVANNAS REMAINED A LOWER PRIORITY, AND BIOMASS CONTINUED TO BUILD UP YEAR BY YEAR, CREATING THE PERFECT CONDITIONS FOR THE FIRESTORMS THAT OCCURRED LAST YEAR. WE CANNOT FOLLOW HAWAII DOWN THE SAME DISASTROUS PATH OF SINGLE-MINDED FOCUS ON CARBON NEUTRALITY.

WE MUST TAKE A BALANCED APPROACH, AND THAT INCLUDES CLIMATE ADAPTATION AND CLIMATE MITIGATION.

SO, FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF FLAGSTAFF RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES, PLEASE APPROVE THE FLAGSTAFF FIRST PETITION AND ADD WILDFIRE, FLOODING AND DROUGHT AS TOP PRIORITIES TO THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY. THANK YOU.

MOVING DOWN TO COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS.

LET'S START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

[6. COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS]

COUNCIL MEMBER BIRTHDAY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU EVERYONE, FOR WISHING ME A HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

IT'S BEEN A GOOD DAY SO FAR.

SO, MY REPORT YESTERDAY WAS TRANSIT WORKER APPRECIATION DAY.

MOUNTAIN LION DID A GREAT JOB SHOWING APPRECIATION WITH BREAKFAST, DINNER, VIDEOS, WRITTEN MESSAGES TO THE TEAM AND I AM JUST SO PROUD TO BE ON THAT BOARD AND TO WATCH THEM CELEBRATE THEIR EMPLOYEES.

THEY DO A VERY NICE JOB WITH THAT.

THIS THURSDAY THERE WILL BE A WATER COMMISSION MEETING 4 TO 6 P.M.

IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER AWARENESS MONTH COMING UP IN APRIL AND THE ONGOING WATER RATE STUDY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY?

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THAT'S THE MAIN THING.

MEETING I ATTENDED.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? I HAVE NOTHING AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I, TOO, AM VERY PROUD OF MOUNTAIN LION.

THEY DO A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE UNSUNG HEROES TO THEIR EMPLOYEES.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE BEING ON THAT BOARD AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO.

LAST WEEK WAS OUR ANNUAL AUDIT COMMITTEE.

WE REVIEWED THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND THE AUDIT REPORT FROM OUR AUDITORS.

AND AGAIN, I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY, ESPECIALLY COMING FROM A FINANCIAL BACKGROUND THAT WE CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THE HIGHEST QUALIFICATIONS.

ON OUR AUDIT REPORT.

AND WE CONTINUE TO DO JUST A STELLAR JOB.

SO JUST THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT CONTRIBUTES TO OUR FINANCIAL REPORTING AND ACCOUNTING.

AND THANK YOU TO OUR AUDITORS.

VICE MAYOR.

MAYOR. I HAVE NO LIAISON REPORTS FOR THE PAST WEEK.

THANK YOU. AND I HAVE NOTHING AS WELL.

SO LET'S MOVE DOWN TO APPOINTMENTS.

[A. Consideration of Appointments: Planning and Zoning Commission. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Make one appointment to a term expiring December 2025. Make two appointments to terms expiring December 2026. ]

THE FIRST COUNCIL MEMBER TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT IS COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND I HAVE TO ADMIT, CAN SOMEBODY REMIND ME OF THE TERMS? MAYOR, IF I MAY? SO, WE'VE GOT ONE TERM FOR DECEMBER 2025, AND WE HAVE TWO FOR DECEMBER OF 2026.

THANK YOU. AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE CJ, I'M SORRY, LUTKE.

FOR THE TERM ENDING 12/26.

AND BEFORE ANYONE SECONDS THAT, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WAS THOROUGHLY IMPRESSED WITH THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED. THEY WERE ALL SO GOOD.

SO, THIS WAS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION.

I LOOKED AT ALL THE EXPERIENCE THAT PEOPLE HAD ON THEIR APPLICATIONS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE DONE, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY'VE LIVED IN OUR CITY.

AND I WAS JUST OVERWHELMED.

AND SO I'M SO HAPPY THAT ALL OF THESE FOLKS WANT TO BE A PART OF A COMMISSION.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE ONLY HAVE THREE SEATS.

AND SO, I LOOKED.

I CHOSE CJ BECAUSE OF THE VARIOUS EXPERIENCE.

FRESH EYES DIVERSE COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE AND THEN EXPERIENCE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT FROM A PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT. AND SO, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN.

I GUESS YOU ENTERTAIN A SECOND.

DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THIS MOTION TO APPOINT CJ LUTKE? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

WELL, THANK YOU MAYOR.

I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS THAT WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT APPLICANTS THIS TIME.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MEGAN WELLER.

TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR A TERM EXPIRING DECEMBER 2026.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP, COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WILL THIRD THAT COMMENT ON JUST HOW EXCELLENT THESE APPLICATIONS WERE AND WHAT A DIFFICULT DECISION THIS WAS.

IN FACT, MY OTHER TWO OPTIONS WERE BOTH TAKEN.

SO, I WILL GO WITH CARLTON JOHNSON TO A TERM EXPIRING.

I BELIEVE WHAT'S LEFT IS DECEMBER 2025.

OKAY. TO HAVE A SECOND.

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MOVING DOWN.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

[A. Consideration and Action on Liquor License Application: Catherine Marie Gomes, "Family Dollar #24029," 3494 E. Route 66, Series 10 (beer and wine store), New License. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Forward the application to the State with a recommendation for approval Forward the application to the State with a recommendation for denial based on the testimony received at the public hearing and/or other factors.]

I AM GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE WILL HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THIS APPLICATION.

HELLO. HI.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS NICK ALMENDAREZ.

I'M A SERGEANT WITH THE FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I'M BEFORE YOU TODAY PRESENT A NEW LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION.

THIS IS FOR A SERIES TEN BEER AND WINE STORE LIQUOR LICENSE AT FAMILY DOLLAR.

IT'S LOCATED AT 3494 EAST ROUTE 66 HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA.

THE APPLICATION WAS FILED BY CATHERINE GOMEZ, THE AGENT HARRY SPENCER CONTROLLING PERSON, PETER BARNETT CONTROLLING PERSON AND JONATHAN ELDER, CONTROLLING PERSON.

IN MY INVESTIGATION, I DISCOVERED NO DEROGATORY RECORDS ON THE APPLICANTS AND NO CURRENT OR HISTORICAL LIQUOR VIOLATIONS ON THE BUSINESS.

I FOUND EVIDENCE THE APPLICANTS HAD TAKEN THE MANDATORY LIQUOR LICENSE TRAINING, AND A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BUSINESS WAS INVITED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. AND I SEE THAT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM FAMILY DOLLAR IS ONLINE.

SHOULD COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. NO QUESTIONS.

NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I BELIEVE VICE MAYOR'S HAND JUST WENT UP.

VICE MAYOR. MADAM MAYOR, I DON'T NEED US TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS, AS I'M AWARE OF AN AMENDMENT THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED PREEMPTIVELY FOR OUR CONSIDERATION. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE FORWARD THE APPLICATION TO THE STATE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE AMENDMENT PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.

INCLUDED. THANK YOU.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU.

ANY OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SERGEANT.

THANK YOU. IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS LEI I CAN'T SEE WHEN MY MICROPHONE IS ON. MOVING DOWN TO CONSENT AGENDA.

[9. CONSENT AGENDA All matters under Consent Agenda are considered by the City Council to be routine. Unless a member of City Council expresses a desire at the meeting to remove an item from the Consent Agenda for discussion, the Consent Agenda will be enacted by one motion approving the recommendations listed on the agenda. Unless otherwise indicated, expenditures approved by Council are budgeted items. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION Approve the Consent Agenda as posted.]

THE AGENDA WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.

ONE MOTION.

ARE THERE ANY OF THESE ITEMS UNDER NUMBER NINE THAT ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SEPARATELY? MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS, EXCUSE ME, 9.A THROUGH 9.F.

THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THANK YOU.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ROUTINE ITEMS TEN A CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF CONTRACT RATIFICATION.

[A. Consideration and Approval of Contract Ratification: Partially Ratify the GMP (Guaranteed Maximum Price) 1 for the Pre-cast box culvert for the Schultz Creek Drainage Improvements at US HWY 180 to J. Banicki Construction valued at $611,398.90. The remaining total value of Banicki’s proposal is $7,224,422.12, this is the first GMP for the Highway 180 culvert project with a full value at $7,835,821.02 for Construction Phase Services. In addition to GMP 1, a contract amendment for Design Phase utility locating services in the amount of $46,847.47 to Banicki Construction is also attached. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve partial ratification of the GMP 1 for the Pre-cast box culvert procurement for the Schultz Creek Improvements at US HWY 180 to Banicki Construction valued at $611,398.90; and Approve the remaining value equaling $7,224,422.12 of Banicki’s proposal Construction Phase GMP 1 full value equaling $7,835,821.02; and Approve ratification of the Design Phase utility locating contract amendment with Banicki Construction for the project in the amount of $46,847.47.; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the necessary documents.]

AND I'D LIKE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TO THIS AND THEN INVITE ANY OTHERS.

I THINK ED SCHENCK AND HIS TEAM ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.

BEHIND THIS VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT.

AS WELL AS EMILY FROM PROCUREMENT.

MY COMMENT SIMPLY IS THAT BEFORE YOU IS AN ITEM TO.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS WRAPPED UP IN THIS, BUT ONE ITEM THAT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO, AND IT IS THE $611,398.

ITEM. AND THAT CONSISTS OF THE BOX CULVERT.

WE HAD ORDERED THAT PREVIOUSLY TO HAVE IT FABRICATED IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER TO HOPEFULLY ENABLE CONSTRUCTION INSTALLATION OF THAT ON SITE.

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SO, WITH THAT ORDERING, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO RATIFY THAT PURCHASE.

THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE DO THIS.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF SEQUENCE, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS GOOD REASONS.

SOMETIMES, FOR EXAMPLE, DURING COUNCIL RECESS WE MAY APPROVE THINGS AND ASK FOR YOUR RATIFICATION UPON RETURN.

SO, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT SIMILAR TO THAT ENTIRELY BASED UPON TIMING.

AND I WILL LET ED AND EMILY SPEAK TO THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT.

BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THE RATIFICATION PART OF THIS, IF YOU LIKE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ED SCHENK, STORMWATER SECTION DIRECTOR.

I DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THIS.

I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER PROVIDED PRETTY GOOD COVERAGE OF WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING TODAY.

FOR THAT GMP WITH CONSTRUCTION.

SO, THE REMAINDER OF THAT GMP IS A LITTLE OVER $7 MILLION.

THE ENTIRETY OF THIS GMP IS FUNDED THROUGH THE STATE APPROPRIATION FROM LAST YEAR.

SO THAT WAS APPROPRIATED $8.99 MILLION FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, HIGHWAY 180 CULVERT AS WELL AS FOR DETENTION BASIN MAINTENANCE FOR THE REGIONAL DETENTION BASINS.

SO, WE ARE WITHIN BUDGET.

MAC MCNAMARA, THE WATER SERVICES ENGINEER, IS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR IT.

WE DO HAVE WEEKLY TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEES' MEETINGS, SORRY, TAC MEETINGS BETWEEN [INAUDIBLE], ADOT, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD QUICKLY.

WE DO HOPE TO HAVE IT SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE BY JULY 1ST SO THAT IT IS COMPLETE IN TIME FOR MONSOON SEASON.

WITH THAT I DON'T KNOW IF EMILY HAS ANYTHING MORE FROM PROCUREMENT SIDE, BUT HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CITY MANAGER OR MR. SCHENK? ALL RIGHT.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE RATIFICATION OF THE CONTRACT.

HOW MUCH DO I HAVE TO READ OF THIS? YOU COULD JUST REFERENCE ITEM TEN A.

ITEM TEN A.

SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

10.B CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-08.

[B. Consideration and Adoption of Ordinance No. 2024-08: An ordinance amending the Flagstaff City Code, Chapter 1-14, Personnel System by amending the Employee Handbook of Regulations, Section 1-70-030 Retiree Insurance; providing for repeal of conflicting ordinances, severability, authority for clerical correction, and establishing an effective date. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Read Ordinance No. 2024-08 by title only for the final time City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2024-08 by title only (if approved above) Adopt Ordinance No. 2024-08]

AND THERE'S STAFF HAS NOTHING ELSE TO ADD.

CORRECT? YES, MAYOR.

SHANNON ANDERSON HERE ONLINE WITH YOU.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO ADD, BUT I'M CERTAINLY HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE TO READ ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-08 BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FINAL TIME.

CAN I GET A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. CITY CLERK, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AMENDING THE FLAGSTAFF CITY CODE, CHAPTER 1-14 PERSONNEL SYSTEM BY AMENDING THE EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK OF REGULATIONS, SECTION 1-70-030 RETIREE INSURANCE PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES.

SEVERABILITY AUTHORITY FOR CLERICAL CORRECTIONS AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT? SO MOVED.

AND A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AT ANY OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER C, LETTER C CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-07.

[C. Consideration and Adoption of Ordinance No. 2024-07: An ordinance of the Council of the City of Flagstaff, Coconino County, Arizona (1) providing for sale and issuance of City of Flagstaff, Arizona General Obligation Bonds and General Obligation Refunding Bonds, in one or more series, and for the annual levy of a tax for the payment of the bonds; (2) approving the form and authorizing the execution and delivery of necessary agreements, instruments and documents related to the sale and issuance of the bonds; (3) delegating authority to the Mayor and Management Services Director of the City to determine certain matters and terms with respect to the foregoing as well as certain matters with respect to the bonds being refunded with the proceeds of the sale of the bonds; and (4) authorizing the taking of all other actions necessary to consummate the transactions contemplated by this ordinance and ratifying all actions taken to further this ordinance. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Read Ordinance No. 2024-07 by title only for the final time City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2024-07 by title only (if approved above) Adopt Ordinance No. 2024-07]

CITY COUNCIL. RICK TADDER MANAGEMENT.

SERVICE DIRECTOR.

YEAH. THE ITEM BEFORE.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

THE ITEM FOR YOU IS FOR A SECOND READ AND ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE ALLOWING US TO ISSUE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.

THESE ARE RELATED TO THE 2022 ELECTION.

FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND HOUSING.

AND I'M HERE FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAD.

WE HAD THE PRESENTATION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

COUNCIL, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

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THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SECOND? I WOULD THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

CITY CLERK, AN ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, COCONINO COUNTY, ARIZONA.

ONE PROVIDING FOR THE SALE AND ISSUANCE OF CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA.

GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AND GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS IN ONE OR MORE SERIES, AND FOR THE ANNUAL LEVY OF A TAX FOR THE PAYMENT OF THE BONDS.

TWO APPROVING THE FORM AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF NECESSARY AGREEMENTS, INSTRUMENTS AND DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE SALE AND ISSUANCE OF THE BONDS THREE DELEGATING AUTHORITY TO THE MAYOR AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR OF THE CITY TO DETERMINE CERTAIN MATTERS AND TERMS WITH RESPECT TO THE FOREGOING, AS WELL AS CERTAIN MATTERS WITH RESPECT TO BONDS BEING REFUNDED WITH THE PROCEEDS OF THE SALE OF THE BONDS, AND FOR AUTHORIZING THE TAKING OF ALL OTHER ACTIONS NECESSARY TO CONSUMMATE THE TRANSACTIONS CONTEMPLATED BY THIS ORDINANCE, AND RATIFYING ALL ACTIONS TAKEN TO FURTHER THIS ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT? I MOVE TO ADOPT.

CAN I GET A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED.? ALL RIGHT.

MOVING DOWN TO D CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF AUDITED FINANCIAL REPORTS.

[D. Consideration and Approval of Audited Financial Reports: Year ending June 30, 2023 STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve the FY 2022-2023 Annual Comprehensive Financial Report and the FY 2022-2023 Single Audit Report]

BRANDY CEUTA, SERVING AS THE CITY'S FINANCE DIRECTOR.

I'M HERE BEFORE YOU FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-23 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND SINGLE AUDIT REPORT.

ACCOMPANYING ME TODAY IS OUR AUDITORS FROM HUYNH-FELDT, MH.

PER STATE STATUTE, CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS WHO PERFORM THE AUDIT MUST PRESENT THE AUDIT RESULTS TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

THE AUDIT COMMITTEE DID MEET ON MARCH 6TH AND UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND SINGLE AUDIT.

AND BEFORE I TURN IT OVER, THE PRESENTATION OVER TO THE AUDITORS, I JUST WANT TO DO A SHOUT OUT AND A THANK YOU TO THE FINANCE TEAM AND OUR GRANTS TEAM FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK AND PREPARING FOR THE AUDIT, THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND SINGLE AUDIT.

AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MIKE LIAISON WITH HINES MESH.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL LARSON.

I'M THE AUDIT PARTNER WITH HAINFELD BEACH BASED OUT OF FLAGSTAFF.

WE ARE THE INDEPENDENT AUDITORS HIRED BY THE CITY TO PERFORM A NUMBER OF AUDITS.

AND WE'LL KIND OF GO OVER THE PRIMARY TWO OF THEM, BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER ONES WE'LL TALK ABOUT BRIEFLY TODAY AS WELL.

AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS MENTIONED, SHE WAS A PART OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, AND SHE GOT A 45 MINUTE PRESENTATION OF THE AUDIT REPORT.

BUT I PROMISE TONIGHT WILL BE MUCH FASTER THAN THAT.

SO I DO WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO BRANDI SUDA, HEIDI DERRYBERRY, MARTIN DONAHOE, WHO ARE PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR PREPARING THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT, THE 200 PLUS PAGE REPORT THAT SUMMARIZES WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PRIMARILY TONIGHT.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT GRANTS, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, PROCUREMENT, AIRPORT HOUSING.

WE KIND OF TOUCHED A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIVISIONS WITHIN THE CITY.

AND SO WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THEIR EFFORTS IN GETTING THESE GETTING ALL OF THIS DONE.

SO, AS BRANDY MENTIONED, IT'S WHY ARE WE HERE TONIGHT? SO WE'RE REQUIRED TO PRESENT AS THE AUDITORS TO THE COUNCIL, EITHER IN A LIVE FORMAT WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THE AUDIT COMPLETION, WHICH WE ARE WITHIN.

SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT PART AT LEAST.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO REQUIRED AS PART OF THE CITY CHARTER AND STATE LAW TO HAVE AN AUDIT FOR THE CITY.

AND THEN BECAUSE THE CITY RECEIVES AN EXPENSE MORE THAN $750,000 IN FEDERAL AWARDS, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO UNDERGO WHAT'S CALLED A SINGLE AUDIT.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THAT AS WELL.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO TALK ALSO ABOUT WHAT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE AUDIT IS.

IT'S VERIFYING MANAGEMENT, REPRESENTATION OF THE FINANCES, DEMONSTRATING STEWARDSHIP AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO ALL THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN FOR THE CITY.

REVIEWING COMPLIANCE WITH LAWS AND REGULATIONS AND ULTIMATELY ENSURING THAT THE COUNCIL IS AWARE OF HOW THE AUDIT WRAPPED UP AND PRESENTING THAT INFORMATION TO YOU TONIGHT.

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WE WERE HIRED THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR CONDUCTING THE AUDIT.

WE WERE HIRED THROUGH AN RFP PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

AND SO I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE AUDIT PROCESS WENT.

ENGAGEMENT LETTER. INITIAL PLANNING STARTED IN JULY.

WE HAD SITE VISITS IN AUGUST, OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER BETWEEN 3 AND 5 STAFF MEMBERS ON SITE, PLUS OTHER MEMBERS REMOTELY.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET ACCESS TO THE CITY'S FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO DIRECTLY GO INTO THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM, RUN THE REPORTS WE NEEDED.

AND SO WE DID APPRECIATE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY'S EFFORTS IN HELPING US TO DO THAT.

AND THEN FINALLY, BOTH THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT AND THE SINGLE AUDIT WERE ISSUED ON DECEMBER 20TH OF 2023.

AND SO I WON'T GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL ON THIS, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE WAY WE APPROACH THE AUDIT IS A RISK BASED APPROACH.

WE'RE NOT TESTING EVERY SINGLE TRANSACTION WITHIN THE CITY.

WE'RE PERFORMING SAMPLES OF DISBURSEMENTS, RECEIPTS, PAYROLL DIFFERENT COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TEST. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LAYS OUT, IT SAYS, OKAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO TEST THIS PROGRAM, YOU HAVE TO DO THIS CERTAIN TYPE OF TEST WORK.

AND SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF FOLLOWING THOSE GUIDES TO ULTIMATELY COME TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN ISSUE AN OPINION ON THE AUDIT REPORTS.

AND SO WE THERE'S AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S A NUMBER OF REPORTS THAT WE ISSUE.

THE MAIN TWO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS THE AQUIFER ANNUAL ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT, THE SINGLE AUDIT REPORT.

BUT THERE'S ALSO THE HERF REPORT, THE ELR, THE EXPENDITURE LIMITATION REPORT LANDFILL REQUIREMENTS REACT FOR HUD FOR HOUSING AND THEN THE AIRPORT, THE PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PROGRAM.

AND SO THE GOOD NEWS IS, ALL OF THESE REPORTS WILL HAVE EITHER MET THEIR DEADLINE OR WILL MEET THEIR DEADLINE.

WE'RE STILL WAITING ON ONE MORE PIECE OF INFORMATION TO WRAP UP THE HOUSING REPORT FOR THE REACT.

BUT THAT WILL BE COMPLETED SHORTLY AND BY THE MARCH 31ST DEADLINE.

OKAY. SO THE IN KIND OF CONCLUSION, AS FAR AS THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT GOES, THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THE GOOD NEWS IS WE GAVE AN UNMODIFIED OPINION, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST OPINION WE CAN GIVE.

AND SO THAT'S NOT A STATEMENT OF PERFECTION.

WE ARE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, ENSURING THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTED, THAT IF THERE'S A REVENUE, WE CAN SEE SUPPORT.

IF THERE'S CASH, WE CAN SEE A BANK STATEMENT.

WE'RE TYING OUT ALL THE INFORMATION DOING ANALYTICS.

THE PURPOSE OF THE AUDIT IS NOT TO CATCH FRAUD, BUT TO DETERMINE IF THE MATERIAL AMOUNTS ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE IN COMPLIANCE, ARE ACCURATELY SUPPORTED AND ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.

AND WE CAN SAY THAT IS TRUE.

WE HAD NO REPORTABLE INTERNAL CONTROL DEFICIENCIES TO BE REPORTED WITH FOR THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

WE DID HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MANAGEMENT TO IMPROVE A FEW PROCESSES, BUT NOTHING THAT AROSE TO THAT LEVEL OF BEING REPORTABLE WITHIN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OR THE SINGLE AUDIT. ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION WAS THAT AS IN LAST YEAR, THERE WAS A NEW GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING STANDARD THAT AFFECTED LEASES IN FOR THE 2023 ACT, FOR THERE WAS A NEW FINANCIAL STATEMENT STANDARD THAT AFFECTED SUBSCRIPTION BASED ASSETS OR SUBSCRIPTION BASED IT ASSETS, AND THE CITY WAS ABLE TO GATHER THE INFORMATION AND MAKE THE APPROPRIATE ADJUSTMENTS.

SO WE DO APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS ON THAT.

THE REPORT WAS ISSUED IN TIME TO RECEIVE THE GFOA SUBMISSION FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING WHICH THE CITY HAS GOTTEN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS INCLUDING THE MOST RECENT 2022 ACT FOR.

AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE 23 ACT FOR WILL RECEIVE THE SAME AWARD.

AND SO FINALLY, IN THE LAST ONE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE SINGLE AUDIT.

THE CITY QUALIFIES AS WHAT'S CALLED A LOW RISK AUDIT, BASED ON THE PREVIOUS AUDITS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

NO FINDINGS AND NOT HIGH RISK FOR ANY OF THE OTHER WOULD CAUSE YOU TO BE HIGH RISK.

AND SO WE HAD TO TEST TWO FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT HAD NOT BEEN TESTED PREVIOUSLY IN THE PAST THREE YEARS.

AND THAT WAS THE EMERGENCY WATERSHED PROTECTION PROGRAM AND THE AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND SO ON.

THOSE TWO PROGRAMS, WE YOU, THE CITY RECEIVED, AGAIN, AN UNMODIFIED OPINION ON COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST OPINION WE CAN GIVE.

SO THAT WAS A GOOD JOB BY BOTH THE GRANTS DIVISION AND THE AIRPORT FOLKS WHO WERE RUNNING THAT PROGRAM AND TOTAL EXPENDITURES OF THE CITY OF WHAT CAME IN FROM FEDERAL SOURCES WAS 15.1 MILLION.

AND THE TWO PROGRAMS WE TESTED REPRESENTED ABOUT 40% OF THE TOTAL.

AND THAT IS THE REPORT.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.

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SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REQUIRES THAT WE FOR THOSE PROGRAMS WHICH EXCEED $750,000 THOSE PROGRAMS ARE REQUIRED TO BE TESTED AT LEAST ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS.

AND THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS WHERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS DESIGNATED THEM AS HIGH RISK, AND THEN THOSE PROGRAMS ARE REQUIRED TO BE TESTED EVERY YEAR THAT THEY GO OVER $750,000, SUCH AS THE CORONAVIRUS RELIEF FUNDS, WHICH WERE NOT A MAJOR PROGRAM IN 23 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T EXCEED THAT LIMIT. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL QUESTIONS.

COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK FOR EVERYONE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS IN GRANTS AND AND PROCUREMENT AND THE FINANCE TEAM.

AND THANK YOU, AUDITORS.

VERY INTERESTING. 45 MINUTES FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE NERDY LIKE THAT.

AND IT WAS JUST REALLY GIVES US A PEACE OF MIND KNOWING THAT WE'RE TAKING GOOD CARE OF OUR TAXPAYER MONEY.

SO THANK YOU. AND AM I CORRECT? THERE ARE TWO CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE OR THREE? THERE ARE THREE PUBLIC MEMBERS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-05.

CAN I GET A. APPROVE THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING 2022 TO 2023 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT AND THE FY 2022 2023 SINGLE AUDIT REPORT.

CAN I GET A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.

I KNOW IT'S A YEAR ROUND EFFORT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING DOWN TO E CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 202405.

[E. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2024-05 and Ordinance No. 2024-03: A resolution of the City Council of the City of Flagstaff, Coconino County, Arizona, declaring as a public record that certain document filed with the City Clerk entitled "PZ-23-00136 - Residential Uses in the Public Facility (PF) Zone" and an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Flagstaff, Coconino County, Arizona, amending the Flagstaff City Code, Title 10, Flagstaff Zoning Code, to allow residential uses (single-family, duplex, and multi-family dwellings) as a permitted or conditional use in the Public Facility (PF) zone. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Adopt Resolution No. 2024-05 Read Ordinance No. 2024-03 by title only for the final time City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2024-03 by title only (if approved above) Adopt Ordinance No. 2024-03]

HELLO, TIFFANY.

HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON.

HOW ARE YOU ALL? HOPE YOU'RE DOING WELL.

I DO NOT HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL TONIGHT, AS WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE FIRST READ ON, BASICALLY THE RESOLUTION AND ORDINANCE. BUT AFTER OUR FIRST READ, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY CONVERSATION.

WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENT AND FEEDBACK.

SO I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH AN ALTERNATIVE TONIGHT.

AND THAT ALTERNATIVE, I WILL PULL UP HERE QUICKLY.

IS IS BASICALLY THE EXACT SAME AMENDMENT, BUT CHANGING THE RESIDENTIAL USES FROM OUTRIGHT PERMITTED TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.

SO YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.

YOUR FIRST READ IS STILL YOUR FIRST READ.

ATTACHMENT IS STILL THERE, WHICH MAKES THESE PARTICULAR USES PERMITTED USES.

OR YOU HAVE THIS ALTERNATIVE WHICH IS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS REQUIRED FOR THESE PARTICULAR USES.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE THAT THE PROCESS OF FOLLOWING FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS AMENDMENT WAS DIRECTLY IN RELATION TO A STRATEGY THAT WAS FOUND IN OUR HOUSING PLAN.

IT DID ASK US TO CONSIDER OR EXPLORE.

THIS IS US CONSIDERING EXPLORING STAFF MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BEST OPTION AT THE TIME, BUT AFTER COMMUNITY CONVERSATION, THIS MAY BE AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WORKS BETTER FOR EVERYONE.

I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN STREAMLINE OUR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS BOTH BOTH IN THE SHORT RANGE AND THE LONG RANGE.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON, BECAUSE THOSE ARE ALSO COMMENTS AND FEEDBACKS THAT WE GOT FROM FROM OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A BIG PART OF DOING THIS TEXT AMENDMENT WAS TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PROCESS AND REZONING THE PROPERTY, AND THAT MAYBE IT'S TIME WE LOOK AT THOSE PROCESSES AND HOW TO STREAMLINE THEM AND BETTER PROCESS ALL DEVELOPMENT CASES AS A WHOLE.

SO WE WILL BE COMING BACK WITH THOSE AS WELL.

FOLLOWING THIS ITEM, THERE IS ALSO A RESOLUTION.

I WILL SAY THAT THAT RESOLUTION WAS DRAFTED BASED OFF OF CONVERSATION FROM THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING.

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IT MAY JUST BE LESS IMPORTANT FOR THIS ALTERNATIVE DRAFT, DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY YOU GO.

AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO COVER THAT NEXT.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE QUESTIONS FIRST.

IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

OKAY, SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHY YOU LOOKED AT THE CONDITIONAL USE? AT THE. WHY DID YOU ADD THAT TO THE ORIGINAL CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD? SURE. SO AFTER MEETING WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS, SOME WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS, SOME WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IT WAS FELT THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE PROPERTIES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S CONTROL IN THE PAF ZONE, THAT IT MIGHT WORK BETTER FOR OTHER SITES NOT CONTROLLED BY THE CITY TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

IT IS A PERMITTED USE, BUT THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF VETTING ON TOP OF THAT USE TO DETERMINE IF IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT SITE AND LOCATION.

SO WHO MAKES THAT DECISION WHEN YOU DO THAT ADDITIONAL VETTING? SURE. DOES P AND Z MAKE THAT DECISION? WHO WHO MAKES.

THANK YOU. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RIGHT NOW MAKES THE FINAL DETERMINATION ON A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

HOWEVER, THERE IS A PROVISION THAT ALLOWS ANY MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPEAL ANY DECISION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR ANY REASON WITHIN TEN DAYS OF THEIR APPROVAL ON A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO IF COUNCIL SHOULD CHOOSE, THEY COULD ALWAYS CHOOSE TO HAVE THAT HEARD.

IF NOT, AND THEY BELIEVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MADE THE RIGHT DECISION CAN STAND.

SO AM I RIGHT THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE JUST WE, MEANING THE CITY.

WE HAVE A COUPLE PROPERTIES.

CORRECT. THAT WOULD FIT INTO THIS ZONING CHANGE.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO. I MEAN, WE HAVE WE HAVE DONE SOME INITIAL WORK AT LOOKING AT PROPERTIES, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO SAY THAT THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IS ONLY GOOD FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY.

THERE ARE POTENTIAL, MAYBE EVEN WITH SOME FOREST SERVICE PROPERTIES, POTENTIAL WITH FLAGSTAFF UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THOSE ENTITIES WHERE THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE QUASI OR ALSO GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES, THEY ALSO HAVE LAND IN THE ZONE.

AND SO THIS WOULD ALSO HELP US TO WORK WITH THOSE EXTERNAL AGENCIES AS WELL.

SO THEN IF YOU IF WE GO WITH THIS.

ADDITIONAL CONDITIONAL USE PIECE OF THE THE THING.

THEN THOSE FOLKS, NOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHOEVER WOULD HAVE TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR WHATEVER IT IS THEY WANTED TO DO.

IS THAT CORRECT? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NOW IS NOT OBLIGATED TO FOLLOW OUR ZONING CODE.

AND IN SOME CASES, THE FOREST SERVICE, DEPENDING UPON WHAT KIND OF PROPOSAL THEY WOULD BRING MAY OR MAY NOT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE FURTHERING THAT GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST, BUT WE TRY TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY, EXTERNAL AGENCIES, THE COUNTY OFTENTIMES WHEN THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON A PROJECT, THEY'LL COME THAT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS.

THEY'LL COME THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.

AND SO A LOT OF OUR PARTNERS CHOOSE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.

BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO.

IS THAT CORRECT? WHEN AN ENTITY IS A HIGHER GOVERNMENTAL JURISDICTION, THEY'RE NOT.

THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR CODE.

AND IN FACT, THE CITY TECHNICALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ITS OWN CODE EITHER.

BUT WE DO. SORRY.

SO THEN I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THOSE ENTITIES THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS ZONING CHANGE, IF THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE TO COME TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

WHY ARE WE.

I MEAN, WHAT'S THE USE OF OF WHY WOULD YOU PUT A CONDITIONAL USE ATTACHMENT TO THAT.

SURE. SO LET ME USE AN EXAMPLE.

SO FLAGSTAFF UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING A SCHOOL IT'S EXEMPT FROM ZONING.

IF THEY WERE TO BUILD HOUSING, THAT'S NOT THAT.

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THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S SPECIFICALLY EXEMPT.

SO A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THAT INSTANCE WOULD LIKELY WORK WELL FOR THEM.

AND I HAVE SEEN INSTANCES WHERE FUSD HAS APPLIED FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.

I HANDLED ONE IN THE COUNTY FOR THEM, FOR EXAMPLE FOR A SOLAR PV PANEL SYSTEM.

SO IT'S IT'S IT'S NOT THIS PERFECT STREAMLINE.

IT DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION AND HOW WHAT WHAT THE USE IS.

MOST OF THESE GROUPS NEED TO ALSO WORK WITH US IN TERMS OF RESOURCES.

SO GENERALLY WE'RE THE SOURCE OF WATER AND SEWER.

YOU KNOW, THOSE THOSE CONNECTIONS ALSO NEED TO BE MADE.

AND SO THOSE ARE ALSO WAYS IN WHICH TO NEGOTIATE WITH EXTERNAL PARTNERS ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO SAVE THE REST OF MY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS UNTIL SOME AFTER OTHER PEOPLE HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE I HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE.

OKAY. QUESTIONS.

MAYOR. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND I THINK WOULD BE USEFUL TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE THEY COMMENT.

AND TIFFANY, I WANT TO THANK YOU.

TIFFANY AND I HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS BY EMAIL AND IN PERSON, AND I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FUSD, FOR INSTANCE, WANTING TO BUILD HOUSING.

AND UNDER THE TERMS OF THIS, THEY COULD BUILD A 60 FOOT STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE THE SAME SIZE AS THE HUB.

WELL, I THOUGHT THERE OUGHT TO BE SOME KIND OF REVIEW IN THAT PROCESS.

AND I MIGHT NOTE THAT THE ONE DISSENTING VOTE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THE REASON THEY DISSENTED IS BECAUSE THEY WANTED A CUP, AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSION DID NOT AGREE TO THAT.

SO LET'S SEE.

SO. THE SOLUTION THAT I SUGGESTED, SO THAT WE DON'T LET THINGS GO THROUGH WITHOUT SOME KIND OF REVIEW, ESPECIALLY CITY PARKS, WAS THAT WE WOULD SPLIT THIS ZONE INTO TWO ZONES.

ONE IS THE SAFE ZONE, AND THE OTHER WOULD BE A SPECIAL ZONE FOR PARKS.

NOW, TIFFY AND I HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, AND AND SHE INFORMED ME THAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE A LOT OF PROCESS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR EACH PARK, ETC., SO THAT I BELIEVE, IN MY OPINION, WAS IMPRACTICAL.

SO IT'S LIKE, WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? WE WANT SOME KIND OF REVIEW PROCESS.

WE DON'T WANT THESE TO GO OUT WITHOUT ANY PUBLIC PROCESS.

AND SO I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE PUSHING FOR A CUP.

SO I'M JUST KIND OF PUTTING THAT OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT.

THAT'S WHY I WAS PUSHING FOR A CUP, JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS SOME KIND OF PUBLIC PROCESS AND PUBLIC INPUT AND SOME KIND OF HEARING PLANNING AND ZONING.

I'M ALMOST DONE, BUT I.

TIFFANY, YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT STREAMLINING THE CUP PROCESS.

WELL, LET ME BE HONEST.

THAT SCARES ME.

WHEN I WAS FIRST ON COUNCIL THE COPS, THE DECISION BY P AND Z WERE FINAL.

NOW THE PERSON INVOLVED COULD APPEAL IT, BUT I PUSH FOR A CHANGE IN THE PROCEDURE, SAYING THAT IN ALL CASES COPS APPROVALS WOULD BE INFORMED TO COUNCIL JUST SO THAT COUNCIL KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A PROVISION.

I BELIEVE IT'S WITHIN TEN DAYS.

YOU SAID TIFFANY TO SAY, HEY, I WANT TO REVIEW THAT AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER DONE THAT.

PROBABLY NOT, BUT MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT THE POINT IS THAT'S PART OF THE CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT I THINK WE NEED.

AND I WOULD BE VERY HESITANT TO CHANGE OUR PROCEDURES ON COPS.

THERE MAY BE OTHER MINOR ASPECTS OF IT THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND SEPARATE CONVERSATION, SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHY I'M PUSHING FOR A COP APPROVAL AS PART OF THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU MAYOR.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PARKS.

WE'VE HEARD QUITE A BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT PARKS BEING REZONED FOR HOUSING.

CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT?

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WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU KNOW, THE THE GOAL AND INTENTION OF THIS IS TO NOT LOOK AT OUR PARKS AS POTENTIAL RESOURCES, BUT THERE ARE A VARIETY OF LANDS THAT FALL WITHIN THE ZONE.

BUT A LOT OF OUR PARKS DO FALL WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT AS WELL.

THE RESOLUTION THAT FOLLOWS THIS SORT OF FURTHERS MORE EXPRESSES OUR INTENT.

BUT I THINK IN IN ADDITION, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROVIDES FURTHER ASSURANCES AS WELL, SOMETHING THAT IS REGULATED BY CODE.

THERE ARE ALWAYS CONCERNS WITH RESOLUTIONS, EVEN THOUGH WE, WE HAVE SOME PRETTY BIG DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING OUR GENERAL REGIONAL PLAN THAT'S ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION.

BUT WE THIS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS MEANT TO GIVE SOME MORE ASSURANCE ABOUT PROCESS IN TERMS OF CODE.

BUT THE RESOLUTION IS ALSO MEANT TO SORT OF DESIGNATE WHAT THE INTENTION IS.

AND THE INTENTION IS NOT TO EXPLORE THE REDEVELOPMENT OF EXISTING PARKS OR AMENITY RESOURCES, WHICH WE ALSO KNOW ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP THOSE SPACES AND AMENITIES FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

SO IT'S NOT THE INTENTION, BUT CERTAINLY APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF THE PUBLIC.

WANT TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE THOSE CONCERNS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT STILL PROVIDE THE GREATEST OPTIONS WITHIN THE PUBLIC FACILITY ZONE, IF POSSIBLE.

REBECCA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL REBECCA SAYERS, THE PARKS, RECREATION, OPEN SPACE AND EVENTS DIRECTOR.

TIFFANY AND I HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS.

I'VE ALSO HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SARAH DA MICHELLE.

OUR DIVISION IS SUPPORTIVE OF THESE CHANGES AS THEY'RE PRESENTED.

WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AND WHAT THE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT FUTURE COUNCILS MAY DO.

THAT'S ALWAYS A CONCERN.

BUT I THINK THAT THESE SAFEGUARDS THAT TIFFANY HAS TALKED ABOUT PUTTING INTO PLACE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT MAY ACCOMPANY THIS ZONING CHANGE HELP IDENTIFY THE INTENT AND PRESERVE THOSE PARKLANDS.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS.

I DID MEET WITH TIFFANY AND A FEW OTHER STAFF MEMBERS, AS WELL AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON THIS.

AND FIRST, I JUST WANT TO REALLY EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT EVERYONE TOOK WITH ME ON THIS, AND I TOO AM KIND OF ECHOING WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY IS SAYING WITH THE CUP.

I AS WELL WAS SO HAPPY WHEN TIFFANY BROUGHT THIS UP THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ADD THIS AS ANOTHER LAYER OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THIS, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AS AN OPTION THAT GOES THROUGH.

SO THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MATHEWS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

TIFFANY, CAN YOU JUST RE CLARIFY ON THE RESOLUTION THAT WE'LL GET TO.

BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE THE SAME CONVERSATION.

REALLY? WHEN YOU SAY PRIORITIZING DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY FOR FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS AT A RANGE OF INCOME, AS DETERMINED BY CURRENT NEEDS ON LAND OWNED, SO IS THE TERM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE HUD TERM, THE TECHNICAL TERM FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING? OR IS IT JUST WHATEVER THE NEEDS ARE, BECAUSE WE NEED HOUSING AT ALL DIFFERENT LEVELS.

I MET WITH A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS IN TOWN LAST WEEK THAT ALL OF THEIR EMPLOYEES.

THE COST OF HOUSING ISN'T THEIR CHALLENGE.

IT'S THE AVAILABILITY OF HOUSING FOR THEIR INCOME LEVEL, WHICH THEN TAKES AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, THEIR OCCUPYING HOUSES THAT MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE COULD MOVE INTO, AS WE ALL KNOW. SO I JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT RESOLUTION.

SURE. SO THE HOUSING STRATEGY SAYS TO EXPLORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS WITHIN THE ZONE.

SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE HAD RECEIVED AFTER THE FIRST READ WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE ASSURE THAT THIS IS REALLY FOCUSING TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING? THERE ARE STANDARDS IN THE ZONING CODE RIGHT NOW FOR WHEN WE ALLOW INCENTIVES, WHEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS PROVIDED, BUT IT HAS VERY STRICT SPECIFICATIONS ON WHAT INCOME LEVEL IS SERVED IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THOSE INCENTIVES.

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AMI YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY LUXURY HOUSING, THE THE HIGHER END INCOMES, IT IS STILL EASIER, EVEN IF THERE ISN'T ALWAYS THE SUPPLY AVAILABLE.

BUT TO BE ABLE TO WORK MARKET WISE AND DETERMINE WITH COUNCIL WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE INCOME WE WANT TO SERVE AND WHO ARE WE FOCUSING ON SERVING. BUT IT'S IT'S MEANT TO BE BROAD, BUT IT'S MEANT TO FOCUS ON PROVIDING AFFORDABLE UNITS.

OKAY. BECAUSE BECAUSE OF WORKFORCE HOUSING.

YOU KNOW, WE UP HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, THAT COULD BE OUR WORKFORCE CAN FALL INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING RANGE FOR SURE.

BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO PIGEONHOLE OURSELVES BECAUSE LIKE WE HAD THE DISCUSSION LAST WEEK ABOUT THE COURTHOUSE PROPERTY, AND WE'VE GOT TWO AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN VERY CLOSE.

AND SO DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO ALSO REQUIRE THAT TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHOUT CONSIDERING MARKET RATE HOUSING, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, THE BEST THE BEST IDEA TO COME FORWARD.

SO I JUST, I, I HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HESITANCY.

WE NEED A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT I'M FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT FIRST STEP INTO HOUSING.

BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A BROAD ENOUGH BRUSH THAT WE CAN ALSO DO THAT UPPER END WORKFORCE HOUSING AND STUFF. SO. SO I THREW UP THE RESOLUTION ON THE SCREEN, JUST IN CASE YOU WANTED TO SEE THAT NOW AND SEE WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH THIS NOW? OKAY. A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL PRIORITIZING THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS AT A RANGE OF INCOME LEVELS, AS DETERMINED BY CURRENT NEEDS ON LANDS OWNED BY THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF THAT ARE MADE AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND PROVIDING FOR EXCEPTIONS.

SO I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THIS DOES.

WE SORT OF DEFINE WHAT ARE LANDS AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT.

AND IN THIS RESOLUTION, YOU'LL SEE THAT CITY OWNED LAND AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT INCLUDE SITES NECESSARY FOR CORE CITY FUNCTIONS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO EXISTING PARKS, LAND IDENTIFIED FOR FUTURE PARKS, DESIGNATED OPEN SPACES, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, AND SITES UTILIZED FOR CITY OPERATIONS.

WE DO HAVE OTHER LAND THAT FALLS OUTSIDE OF ALL OF THESE CATEGORIES, AND I THINK THE IDEA HERE IS, IS THAT WE ASSESS THEM TO SEE IF THEY'RE RIPE, IF THERE'S POTENTIAL, WHAT WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO SERVE THESE SITES BETTER IN THE FUTURE THAT MIGHT MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AN OPPORTUNITY.

AND AGAIN, WE TRIED TO KEEP THE RANGE OPEN AND NOT KEEP IT SPECIFIC TO THAT INCENTIVE IN THE ZONING CODE SO THAT YOU ALL AT COUNCIL CAN DETERMINE BASED ON CURRENT NEEDS.

I'VE WATCHED THE NEEDS DRAMATICALLY CHANGE OVER THE 25 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE.

AND YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A DIFFERENT MARKET EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND SO WE ALWAYS NEED TO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO REASSESS AND DETERMINE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AND FOR WHO.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, DID YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD WRAPPED AROUND WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.

CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR.

I GUESS I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE NYU FUZZED.

GORE. WELL, GORE IS PROBABLY NOT.

BECAUSE THEY'RE PRIVATE. BUT FUSD NOW THE COUNTY.

AND I'M WONDERING, WHY ARE WE LUMPING THEM INTO THIS? BECAUSE THEY SHOULD.

MY MY CONCERN IS AND MY THEORY IS THAT IF NIU GAW AND THE COUNTY.

WOULD. BUILD HOUSING FOR THEIR PEOPLE.

IT WOULD PULL THEIR FOLKS OUT OF THE GENERAL HOUSING MARKET.

SO WHY WOULD WE MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR THEM OR SET UP THIS ANIMOSITY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR THEIR, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR FOLKS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO TO THEM AND WOULD ALSO HELP WITH OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE.

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AND, AND THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE THEY'RE PRIVATE.

BUT THOSE OTHER THREE ARE NOT.

AND THEY EMPLOY A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND ALL OF THEIR FOLKS MAY NOT WANT TO LIVE IN THEIR HOUSING BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO JUST LIKE ALL THEIR STUDENTS WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO.

AND I SHOULD THROW IN C.C.C.

ALSO, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME LAND, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

AND SO I GUESS I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, THOSE THOSE FOUR BIG PIECES I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH WE'RE THROWING THEM INTO THE CUP CATEGORY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THAT WE START PITTING GROUPS AGAINST GROUPS.

SO GROUP COMES ALONG, THEY WANT TO DO HOUSING.

I DON'T KNOW THIS FOR SURE, BUT THEY COULD THEY WANT TO DO HOUSING.

AND THEN SOMEBODY DECIDES THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT KIND OF HOUSING THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD.

AND THEN SO THEN NOW WE HAVE THIS BIG FIGHT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO I GUESS I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE.

AM I MAKING SENSE TO YOU 100%? YOU KNOW, OUR ORIGINAL AMENDMENT WAS TO MAKE THESE USES PERMITTED BY.

RIGHT. AND BASED ON COMMUNITY COMMENT AND FEEDBACK, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO THIS PROCESS, HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, HAD I HAD IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN THE GAME, I MIGHT HAVE ACTUALLY BROUGHT YOU A DIFFERENT TEXT AMENDMENT FROM THE GET GO, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR JOB.

WE'RE HERE TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC.

WE'RE HERE TO HEAR THE PUBLIC CONCERNS AND YET STILL MEET THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE CITY.

THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT STILL GETS US TO THE GOALS OF THE MEETING, THE STRATEGY OF THE HOUSING PLAN.

AND MAYBE AS TIME GOES ON, MAYBE THIS IS THE BABY STEP TOWARDS A OTHER FUTURE CHANGES IN THE CODE.

BUT MAYBE THIS IS THE WAY TO START TO OPEN THE DOOR.

YOU KNOW, WITH CURRENT SITUATIONS IN ARIZONA, IT'S ALWAYS A DELICATE MATTER CHANGING ZONING CODES FOR DIFFERENT CONCERNS AND HOW IT PROTECTS OR HOW IT IMPACTS PROPERTY VALUES.

SO, YOU KNOW, TAKING BABY STEPS ALONG THE WAY IS A GOOD THING.

BUT YOU KNOW, OVERALL AND THE THE FEEDBACK, IT WASN'T IT WASN'T LIKE 100 EMAILS.

RIGHT. BUT IT WAS EMAILS AND FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE I HIGHLY VALUE AND CONSIDER AND LISTEN TO ON THE REGULAR BASIS AND AND FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE GOT F CUBED DELIVERING COMMENTS.

I ALSO HAD A COMMENT FROM DAVID CARPENTER THAT WAS NOT MUCH DIFFERENT FROM F CUBED.

AND SO WHEN YOU START TO SEE THIS ALIGNMENT OF COMMENTS, ESPECIALLY FROM DIFFERENT AREAS, IT'S TELLING YOU TO HEAD IN THAT DIRECTION AND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S MORE PALATABLE FOR THE PUBLIC AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD STARTING POINT, A DIVING POINT TO HEAD OFF INTO THE FUTURE.

WELL, I'M GOING TO MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT.

AND I'M CONCERNED THAT THE COMMENTS OR INPUT THAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM PUBLIC.

I ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW WHAT PUBLIC WHOSE VOICE ARE YOU HEARING? THOSE VOICES ARE FOLKS WHO NEED HOUSING ARE THOSE VOICES OF FOLKS WHO ALREADY HAVE HOUSING.

THOSE VOICES OF FOLKS WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE, OR THOSE VOICES OF FOLKS WHO ALREADY DO LIVE HERE, PROBABLY OWN THEIR HOUSES OUTRIGHT. SO HEAR ME SAYING THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHOSE VOICE WE'RE LISTENING TO ALL THE TIME.

AND SO SOME OF THE VOICES THAT YOU HEARD, I HAVE NO DOUBT THEY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EXPERTISE.

BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT THOSE FOLKS HAVE HOUSES AND THEY'RE NOT LIVING THREE GENERATIONS TO A HOUSE.

SO WHEN WE.

SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT NOW, BECAUSE I WORKED THERE FOR 20 SOME YEARS AND I KNOW THE JANITORS THAT STILL WORK THERE NOW.

AND THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT I THINK ABOUT.

I THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO.

WHO WORK IN CAFETERIA.

CAN'T AFFORD A HOUSE.

THEY'RE LIVING COUPLE PEOPLE TO AN APARTMENT.

YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THIS A LONG, DRAWN OUT.

THING. I JUST WANT US TO THINK ABOUT WHO'S WHOSE VOICES WERE LISTENING TO.

WHO GETS TO HAVE A VOICE.

YEAH, JUST A SECOND.

JUST TO REITERATE NOW, DOESN'T WHATEVER THEY DECIDE TO DO WITH THEIR LAND, THEY DON'T NEED TO COME TO THE CITY TO FOR ANY KIND OF

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THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

BUT IT SETS UP ANIMOSITY WHEN WE DO STUFF THAT PIT.

ORGANIZATIONS AGAINST ORGANIZATIONS.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY I COVERED YOUR YOUR QUESTION COMMENT.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IN TERMS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS FOR THOSE PUBLIC ENTITIES THAT MIGHT HAVE LIKE PRIVATE LAND LIKE NIU OR, OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHAT WOULD THE PROCESS LOOK LIKE FOR THEM IN TERMS OF GOING THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS ON WHAT'S ESSENTIALLY THEIR OWN PROPERTY? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE BEEN PROCESSING CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS BY TAKING A PROJECT ALL THE WAY THROUGH UP TO SITE PLAN REVIEW.

AND THIS IS WHAT I MEAN ABOUT.

FIXING THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT THERE.

THE CODE IS NOT SPECIFIC THAT IT HAS TO GO ALL THE WAY TO SITE PLAN, BUT WE'VE REALLY INTERNALIZED THAT, AND THAT'S BEEN OUR INTERNAL PROCESS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT TAKING IT TO THE CONCEPT LEVEL, WHERE MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T INVESTED AS MUCH MONEY IN THE APPLICATION BY HAVING FULL ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, AND THEN ALLOWING THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS MUCH MORE TYPICAL WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THEN ALLOWING THAT APPLICANT TO GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.

THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS IS A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

SO WE DO, AT A MINIMUM, HAVE TO NOTICE ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT, PLACE AN AD IN THE PAPER AND PUT A NOTICE ON THE SITE.

WE ALWAYS DO MORE THAN 300FT.

WE NEVER DO THE MINIMUM.

WE ALWAYS DO MORE.

THIS THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST LEVELS OF CONCERN WAS HOW THOSE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS GET NOTIFIED.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT HOLDS DIFFERENT WEIGHT.

IT IS NOT A FULLY DISCRETIONARY DECISION THE SAME WAY THAT A REZONING IS.

IT IS CONDITIONAL USES ARE PERMITTED USES.

THEY'RE CONSIDERED PERMITTED USES.

THEY JUST REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF VETTING TO DETERMINE IF THEY'RE APPROPRIATE AT THAT LOCATION AND IF NECESSARY, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS? SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I'VE WORKED ON RESIDENTIAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, MITIGATION HAS INCLUDED ADDITIONAL SCREENING BUFFERS OR FENCING SEPARATING A COMMERCIAL TO A RESIDENTIAL USE.

THE CONDITIONS ARE NOT DRAMATIC.

DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF HOUSING, BUT MIGHT BE SOMETHING LIKE WORKING ON THEIR IMPACT ANALYSIS OR SOME MITIGATION THAT'S REQUIRED AS PART OF THAT, WHICH WE WOULD ULTIMATELY DO ANYWAY.

BUT IT, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF VETTING THAT DOES GO BEYOND STAFF.

AND THEN IF THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES OR CONCERNS, COUNCIL HAS THAT LEEWAY TO SEE IT MOVE FORWARD TO THEM.

SO WE'RE JUST AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT PROCESS, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO SPEED IT UP IN THE IN HOUSE PORTION OF WHAT WE DO.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY THANK YOU.

MAYOR. WELL, WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED IS THINGS YOU'RE CONSIDERING FOR CUP CHANGES.

KIND OF PUTS ME TO REST A LITTLE BIT.

THEY DON'T SCARE ME AS MUCH AS THINGS THAT I ENVISIONED.

LET ME JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION.

SO IF THIS GOES THROUGH, A 60 FOOT BUILDING WOULD BE REQUIRED.

WHAT IF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR COUNCIL SAID, WELL, TO MITIGATE THAT, WE THINK THAT THIS BUILDING AND THIS SITE SHOULD ONLY BE 50FT HIGH OR IT SHOULD BE 30FT HIGH.

I PRESUME THAT WE COULD DO THAT.

IS THAT TRUE? THANK YOU.

SO 60FT IS NOT REQUIRED.

IT JUST IS THE MAXIMUM THAT CAN BE OBTAINED IN THIS PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICT.

THROUGH CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

IT'S ALWAYS HARD.

YOU'RE YOU'RE.

IT'S HARD TO JUST SAY FOR NO SPECIFIC REASON, NOT IN RELATION TO A FINDING THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE TEN FEET OFF OF YOUR HEIGHT.

RIGHT? IT'S IT'S HARD TO TALK ABOUT IN THE ABSTRACT, BUT THIS SITE, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS DON'T WANT 60FT, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO HAVE 50FT.

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THE ALLOWANCES THAT ARE ALREADY GRANTED TO YOU IN CODE.

THE POINT OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS TRYING TO MITIGATE IMPACTS, AND SO THEY HAVE TO BE IMPACTS IN RELATION TO THE FINDINGS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THE FINDINGS RIGHT NOW ARE ABOUT COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING CODE.

WHAT THE FIRST ONE IS ABOUT MEETING THE PURPOSE OF THE ZONE.

THE SECOND IS ABOUT IT BEING A DETRIMENT TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.

AND THE THIRD FINDING IS 22 FINDINGS AND ONE THAT TAKE YOU ALL THE WAY FROM A TO Z THROUGH THE ZONING CODE.

BUT IT'S ABOUT COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING CODE.

SO IF THE HEIGHT WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING CODE, YOU'D HAVE TO SAY IT MET THE FINDING.

WELL, I'LL JUST THROW THIS OUT.

I'M NOT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OR ANYTHING, BUT JUST THROW IT OUT FOR CONSIDERATION.

DOES COUNCIL WANT TO IF LET THIS GO THROUGH THE WAY IT IS ALLOWING 60 FOOT BUILDINGS? OR WOULD IT BE BETTER IF WE PUT SOME DIFFERENT ALLOWABLE ON THAT? I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW.

BUT IF IT MIGHT HELP ALLEVIATE THE HEIGHT ISSUE FOR YOU, REMEMBER THAT THE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONE HAS A 60 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF DEVELOPMENT IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT IS NOT 60FT, SO A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF SUNNYSIDE IS IN THE AIR ZONE.

SAME WITH THE COMMUNITY.

COMMERCIAL ZONE HAS A BUILDING HEIGHT.

MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 60FT.

SO. WHAT? HOW YOU TREAT WHAT? I MEAN, YOU EITHER LOWER THE BUILDING HEIGHT FOR EVERY USE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT FOR PEF.

THAT'S ONE POSSIBILITY, BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A DIFFERENT AMENDMENT AT THIS POINT.

OR YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE HAVE LOTS OF ZONING DISTRICTS THAT HAVE THAT 60 FOOT MAXIMUM, AND THAT HEIGHT IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE WAYS IN THE FUTURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THE DENSITY WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WELL, THERE MAY BE PLACES WHERE 60FT IS ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE, BUT THERE MAY BE OTHER PLACES THAT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.

AND I GUESS PART OF THE PURPOSE OF THE ZONING CODE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT PROJECTS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THEIR SURROUNDINGS.

SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT COULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT DURING A HEARING.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

AND THEN I THINK I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

JUST A COMMENT ON ON THAT IS THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF BUILDINGS THAT SIT IN THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING BUILDINGS, AND SO THAT'S PROBABLY NOT NOT TRUE.

SO. YOU KNOW, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU LIVE.

THANK YOU. TIFFANY.

ALL RIGHT. WE MAY CALL YOU UP AGAIN AFTER WE TAKE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'LL BE OUTSIDE.

I'M KIDDING. NO.

YOU SIT DOWN IN THAT FRONT ROW.

I HAVE SNACKS. OKAY.

FIRST UP, WE HAVE NADINE HART.

SO I, I'VE BEEN LISTENING ABOUT ZONING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

WOW, VERY POWERFUL SPEAKER.

NOBODY ASKS POOR PEOPLE WHAT THEY NEED OR WANT.

WE WANT HOUSES AND WE DO HAVE HOUSES.

THE THING THAT I'VE SUGGESTED BEFORE, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE IS REZONING AROUND OUR SCHOOLS.

AS I SAID EARLIER, WHERE I LIVE, THERE'S ACCESS TO SEACREST, MARSHALL, THERE'S F-J, THERE'S FLAG HIGH, THERE'S COCONINO HIGH SCHOOL IF YOU RIDE A BIKE. THE TWO CHARTER SCHOOLS UP ON MACMILLAN MESA, THERE'S MEMES.

THERE'S EVEN PUENTE DE HOZHO.

THOSE HOUSES SIT VACANT.

IT'S NOT ABOUT BUILDING UP AND PUTTING POOR PEOPLE IN BIG APARTMENTS OR CREATING INFERIOR HOUSING FOR TEACHERS.

WE HAVE IT. WE JUST NEED TO READJUST AND WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE EXISTING.

WHAT YOU SAID WAS POWERFUL.

IT'S EASY TO SIT THERE WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR HOUSE AND YOU'RE LUCKY TO HAVE A MORTGAGE PAYMENT.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE SOMEONE LIKE ME WITH A HOUSING VOUCHER, WHO CAME BEFORE YOU WITH WEEKS BEING AWAY FROM HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO CONSIDER MY MONEY, EVEN THOUGH THE MONEY IS THERE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO RENT TO SOMEONE LIKE ME.

IT'S HEARTBREAKING AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN.

THE HOUSING WAS THERE AND LUCKILY SOMEBODY TOOK AN AMAZING CHANCE ON ME AND WE HAVE TO, AS A CITY, TAKE A CHANCE ON OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE BEING POOR SUCKS.

IT SUCKS TO HAVE TO THINK THAT YOUR HOUSE COULD BE SOLD SO THAT SOMEBODY CAN BUILD A HIGH RISE TO PROFIT OFF THE BACKS OF THE POOR, BECAUSE ONE APARTMENT BUILDING IS GOING TO

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WHY DO THEY HAVE TO LEAVE SO THAT SOMEBODY CAN COME HERE FROM BALTIMORE AND GO SKIING FOR A WEEKEND? WHY CAN'T WE KEEP FLAGSTAFF HOME? SO WHEN IT COMES TO ZONING, I THINK WE SHOULD WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND CONSIDER THE PEOPLE IN OUR WONDERFUL CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MICHELLE JAMES.

HELLO, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MICHELLE JAMES.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF F CUBED.

F CUBED HAS A KNOWLEDGEABLE, ACTIVE AND ENGAGED BOARD OF TEN PEOPLE.

I'M JOINED TONIGHT BY FIVE OF THOSE BOARD MEMBERS.

I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THEM VERY QUICKLY.

SUSIE GARRETSON IS OUR F CUBED PRESIDENT.

THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME ROW THERE.

MARILYN WISEMAN IS NEXT TO HER AND NEXT TO HER IS CELIA BARRETT.

AND NEXT TO HER IS SANDRA LUBARSKY.

AND THEN MARCUS FORD, WHO'S OUR VICE PRESIDENT FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS, F CUBED.

AND I MEAN THAT BEYOND ME, THE BOARD AS WELL HAS BEEN CAREFULLY CONSIDERING THE IMPACTS AND POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES OF THIS PROPOSED ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO DETERMINE IMPACTS.

WE EXHAUSTIVELY REVIEWED THE MAP AND LIST OF ALL THE F ZONE LANDS IN THE CITY, AS THERE ARE VERY FEW CITY OWNED PARCELS ZONED PUBLIC FACILITY THAT ARE SUITABLE FOR DWELLINGS.

TALKING TO TIFFANY, SHE SAID THERE WERE TWO TO BE EXACT.

RIGHT NOW, THE PRIMARY BENEFICIARIES OF ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL USES BY RIGHT IN THE ZONE ARE THE PRIVATE LANDOWNERS OF LARGER VACANT SEMI AND SEMI VACANT PARCELS.

THESE INCLUDE FSD, THE MUSEUM OF NORTHERN ARIZONA AND LOWELL OBSERVATORY.

F CUBED IS PRIMARILY CONCERNED THAT THIS AMENDMENT, AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, DOES NOT CONTAIN NECESSARY OVERSIGHT GUARDRAILS TO ENSURE MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN DECISIONS ABOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THESE 180 PLUS PARCELS.

THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WOULD NORMALLY TAKE PLACE THROUGH THE ZONING, EXCUSE ME, THE REZONING PROCESS, BUT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REMOVE THAT REQUIREMENT.

F CUBE BELIEVES COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT IS NECESSARY TO ENSURE THE PROTECTION OF THE SUBSET OF CITY PARKS THAT WOULD BE VULNERABLE, AND TO ENSURE THAT FUTURE DEVELOPERS HEAR THE DESIRES OF OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS BUILT ON THESE PARCELS, WE'RE PLEASED TO SEE THAT STAFF IS NOW PROVIDING YOU WITH THE IMPORTANT OPTION OF REQUIRING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

WITH THE ADOPTED ZONING AMENDMENT LANGUAGE.

WITH THE CP REQUIREMENT IN PLACE, THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THE BODY WHICH APPROVES OR DENIES CP REQUESTS.

WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE CP REQUIREMENT WITH THIS RESOLUTION AND ORDINANCE.

WE ALSO URGE YOU TO APPROVE THE SEPARATE RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 11.

THAT SPELLS OUT THE INTENT OF THE COUNCIL TO PRIORITIZE AFFORDABLE WORK HOUSING FOR THE CITY OWNED LANDS THE RESIDENTS OF FLAGSTAFF WANT TO BE MADE AWARE OF AND PROVIDE, AND BE PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED IN IMPORTANT CITY DECISIONS.

THE ADOPTION OF THIS PROPOSAL WITH THE CP AMENDMENT REQUIREMENT PROVIDES A MINIMAL LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT, AND IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY AND THE PUBLIC TOGETHER CAN IDENTIFY AND MITIGATE IMPACTS.

EFCB CANNOT SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT WITHOUT THE INCLUSION OF THE CP REQUIREMENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU MICHELLE.

PATRICK CONNELLY.

GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I JUST SPENT LAST WEEK IN MAUI, SO IT'S REALLY LIKE A LITTLE HOMECOMING HERE WITH ALL THE LEIS.

MY NIECES CAME OUT.

I'VE LIVED IN FLAGSTAFF FOR 45 YEARS.

I'VE LIVED IN COCONINO COUNTY SINCE 1971, LIVED UP IN MARBLE CANYON, THEN MOVED DOWN HERE.

I GREW UP IN AN AREA WITH GREAT DENSITY AND MASS TRANSIT.

MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA.

THAT'S WHAT I GREW UP IN.

AND THEN I LUCKILY DISCOVERED RIVER RAFTING IN THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAND CANYON.

I LOVE MY FELLOW MAN WHEN HE'S SCATTERED SOME.

AS A COWBOY POET ONCE SAID THIS F CUBED.

I WAS AT THEIR FIRST COUPLE OF MEETINGS.

THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO.

I FOUGHT AGAINST THE PEAKS SCENIC PARKWAY, WHICH WOULD HAVE REROUTED HIGHWAY 180 RIGHT THROUGH BUFFALO PARK.

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LOTS OF COUNCILS COME AND GO, SEEN LOTS OF CHANGES IN THIS TOWN.

NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN FOR THE GOOD EITHER.

MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN FOR THE POORER.

AS FAR AS QUALITY OF LIFE, I THINK THAT THE CODE THAT YOU HAVE GIVES MORE PROTECTION.

TO THE THE CURRENT ZONING GIVES MORE PROTECTION.

THE EFCB SAYS, WELL, LET'S COMPROMISE AND GO WITH CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.

BUT THAT'S A BIG DROP DOWN FROM A ZONING CHANGE.

I MEAN, TO GO FOR A ZONING CHANGE OR GOING FOR A CUP, THE LATTER IS FAR EASIER.

SO IF YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS LESSENING THE PROTECTIONS OF PUBLIC LANDS, POTENTIAL PUBLIC LANDS, INCLUDING OUR PARKS.

IT SEEMS TO ME, LISTENING TO THIS MEETING HERE, THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF UNKNOWNS.

A LOT OF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND REALLY, WHAT'S GOING ON OR WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON.

AND I THINK THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY LOST SO MUCH OPEN SPACE THAT I PUT THAT ON A HIGHER LEVEL.

I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I'VE DONE THAT ETHICALLY, I PROVIDE HOUSING, I DON'T PROVIDE ANY SHORT TERM HOUSING.

I PROVIDE HOUSING AT A LOWER THAN MARKET COST TO PEOPLE ON MY OWN.

THAT'S WHAT MY WIFE AND I CONTRIBUTE TO THIS.

BUT I THINK THAT YOU OUGHT TO PAUSE IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS MIGHT BE OF THIS ACTION, THEN DON'T TAKE IT. SIT BACK, GET AN INVENTORY, HAVE MORE RESEARCH AND STUDY DONE.

TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THIS, BECAUSE ONCE YOU BACK OFF AND LOSE THE PROTECTION, YOU WILL NEVER GET IT BACK AGAIN.

ONCE YOU LOSE OPEN SPACE, YOU'LL NEVER GET IT BACK AGAIN.

SO PROTECT IT.

PLEASE. THANK YOU.

MICHAEL COLLIER.

MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL.

THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU.

FLAGSTAFF HAS NOT JUST ONE PROBLEM OF UNAFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT ALSO HAS A PROBLEM OF GROWTH.

I MOVED HERE IN 1968 AND THE CITY WAS VERY DIFFERENT THEN.

SINCE THEN, IT'S GROWN TREMENDOUSLY.

YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER THE CHANGE OF THE ZONING TO ACCOMMODATE THE CONVENIENCE OF THE CITY STAFF AND CONSIDERING DIFFERENT PARCELS LIKE 200 OR 900 SOUTH OF ONE OF THE TWO THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED.

WE'RE TOLD THAT NO MORE ARE IN THE BOOK IN THE THE CHAIN, BUT THERE'S 180 ON THE PUBLIC FACILITIES LIST THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED UNDER THIS.

SOME ARE SMALL, SOME ARE NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO BE CONSIDERED PUBLIC HOUSING.

BUT THEIR POTENTIALS FOR TREMENDOUS USE OF PUBLIC LAND, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ANYBODY'S HOUSING. THE TROUBLE WITH CHANGING TO THIS, THIS RESOLUTION IS THAT YOU'RE GIVING OVER THE CONTROL OF.

THE SITUATION TO A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE DEVELOPERS AND THE CITY.

THE PUBLIC IS BEING IN LARGE MEASURE, LEFT OUT BY NOT FOLLOWING THE MANDATES OF OF PROPER ZONING COMMITTEE, COMMISSION ZONING PROTOCOL.

I HOPE YOU WOULD. AS I WOULD AGREE WITH PATRICK, I HOPE YOU WILL REALLY STRONGLY CONSIDER NOT JUST TINKERING WITH THIS RESOLUTION, ADDING A CUP HERE, OR A GOOD WORD OF MEASURE OF INTENTION THERE.

BUT REALLY, CONSIDERING DO WE WANT TO HAVE ZONING THAT CAN BE FLICKED AWAY AND JUST CHANGE FROM PUBLIC FACILITY TO RESIDENTIAL HOUSING WITHOUT THE PUBLIC'S INPUT, WITHOUT THE NEIGHBOR'S INPUT, A CUP IS GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO CONSIDER LIGHTING, I SUPPOSE.

CONSIDER TRAFFIC, CONSIDER PARKING.

BUT THERE'S MORE TO ZONING THAT GOES INTO CONSIDERATION THAN JUST THOSE.

I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER WHAT YOU'RE WALKING AWAY FROM IF YOU TRY TO CHANGE WHAT THE RESOLUTION DOES NOW UNDER ZONING AND WANT TO GO BACK.

PROPOSITION ARIZONA PROPOSITION 207 SAYS, SORRY, BUDDY, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

IT'S NO LONGER YOU'VE GIVEN IT AWAY.

FUTURE, FUTURE COUNCILS WILL HAVE NO OPTION BUT TO SAY THEIR HANDS ARE TIED.

THANK YOU FOR RECONSIDERING IT.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ROSE HAWK.

I LIVE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

LIVED HERE FOR A WHILE.

HERE'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, THIS IS NOT MY FORTE.

BUT I AM TRYING, LIKE MISS HARRIS, TO GET MY HEAD AROUND SOME OF THIS ZONING STUFF.

WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A VOICE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE SHUT OUT OF THIS.

I'M NOT SPEAKING AS A PRIVILEGED PERSON WHO HAS A HOME.

I AM SO LUCKY TO HAVE A HOME IN THIS TOWN, AND I VALUE IT.

AND I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE TRUE FOR EVERYONE WHO LIVES HERE OR WANTS TO LIVE HERE.

LET ME JUST SAY THAT RIGHT UP FRONT.

BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS IS NO REZONING PROCESS.

HOW CAN THAT BE? THAT IS THE CITIZENS MAIN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

YEAH, WE LIKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE WANT IT TO BE A REASONABLE PLACE WITH WONDERFUL NEIGHBORS WHO CAN AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.

BUT TAKING AWAY REZONING, NO PUBLIC HEARING, NO PETITIONING FOR SUPERMAJORITY VOTE, NO CHANCE FOR A REFERENDUM TO OVERTURN A REZONE.

WE JUST HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THAT.

THIS IS AN ABSOLUTELY SWEEPING CHANGE THAT I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC HAS A CLUE.

I SURE DIDN'T UNTIL ABOUT YOUR FIRST READING A MONTH AGO WHEN I HEARD THIS AND I THOUGHT, THIS CAN'T BE POSSIBLE.

180 PARCELS PER ZONE.

LET ME JUST READ WHAT P.F ZONE SAYS IN THE CODE INTENDED TO PRESERVE AND ENCOURAGE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF PUBLIC LANDS, AND TO PROVIDE AN AREA WITHIN THE CITY FOR ACTIVE AND PASSIVE RECREATION.

USES. PARKS, PUBLIC OPEN SPACE.

GOVERNMENTAL BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES, SCHOOLS AND SCHOOL GROUNDS, QUASI PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES, AND RELATED USES.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS COMPLETELY STRIKE IT.

BY BY SAYING ANY ZONE PARCEL WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND NOW I'M HEARING 60FT HIGH, WHICH OKAY, HERE WE GO.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR GENERALITIES IN THE ZONING CODE, BECAUSE WE LEARNED THE HARD WAY ABOUT HOW THAT DOES NOT WORK.

GENERALITIES DO NOT WORK.

WE CAN SAY ALL THE NICE THINGS WE WANT TO ABOUT OUR PARKS.

IT DON'T MATTER.

SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO IT.

THEY HAVE THE ZONING. BECAUSE PROP 207, YOU WILL BE THREATENED WITH A LAWSUIT IF YOU TRY TO CHANGE IT.

AND I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN TOO.

PLEASE PAUSE.

ALLOW A FULLER, OPEN PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF THIS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN KNOW MORE THAN WHEN A CUP COMES UP.

THAT'S WAY FAR DOWN THE PROCESS.

CFP I DON'T THINK THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME.

I WANT TO SEE I WANT TO SEE THIS WHOLE THING AIRED.

I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.

I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHERE THE ZONE PROPERTIES ARE AND HOW IT COULD AFFECT THEM.

WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT NEXT DOOR TO THEM.

SO ANYWAY, I FEEL UNDERDRESSED TODAY.

I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS YOUR BIRTHDAY.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CAN I TAKE ONE SECOND AND SAY ONE MORE THING? THIS IS A LITTLE OFF THE SUBJECT, ACTUALLY.

NO, NO. OKAY, I'LL WRITE YOU A NOTE.

THANK YOU, DEBORAH BLOCK.

AFTERNOON. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AS A 30 YEAR RESIDENT, I'M CONCERNED BY THE PROPOSAL AMENDING THE FLAGSTAFF ZONING CODE TO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL USES AS A PERMITTED OR CONDITIONAL USE IN THE PUBLIC FACILITY ZONE, UTILIZING THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

WHILE I LAUD THE EFFORTS TO PRIORITIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE, PARTICULARLY WITH THE CAVEAT IN A SISTER RESOLUTION THAT STATES PRIORITIZATION WOULD BE, QUOTE, AT A RANGE OF INCOME LEVELS AS DETERMINED BY CURRENT NEEDS.

END QUOTE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO PARSE THAT.

I RECOGNIZE THAT HOUSING IS CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE IF THE COST DOES NOT CONSUME MORE THAN 30% OF HOUSEHOLD INCOME.

YET THE DISPARITY BETWEEN THOSE EITHER UNSHELTERED OR ON THE EDGE OF HOMELESSNESS, OR EVEN THE MIDDLE CLASS LIKE MYSELF AND THOSE WHO COULD AFFORD THE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR HOMES IN PIKE CANYON IS VAST, THOUGH COVERING A RANGE OF INCOME LEVELS, THIS HARDLY SEEMS AN EQUITABLE ALLOCATION.

ALSO, I AM NOT CONVINCED THAT A CUP WOULD AMELIORATE POTENTIAL MISUSE OF PUBLIC LANDS.

OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE WATCHED DEVELOPERS WIN REPEATEDLY IN THE PURSUIT OF PROFIT RATHER THAN MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND MY IDEALISTIC YES, BUT 25 YEARS AGO, WE PURCHASED A HOUSE DOWNTOWN THAT MY HUSBAND AND I COULD NOT AFFORD.

TODAY, WE HAVE WATCHED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BE SET BY SHORT TERM RENTALS, HOUSE FLIPPING, AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF LUXURY APARTMENTS, NONE OF WHICH ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF

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INDEED, THESE THINGS DEGRADE THE CITY FOR PERMANENT RESIDENTS AND FURTHER INFLATE HOUSING COSTS.

I COULDN'T DETERMINE THE PRECISE NUMBER OF SHORT TERM RENTALS OR SECOND HOME MORTGAGES, BUT THEY ARE EXHAUSTIVELY ADVERTISED AND GROWING IN NUMBER.

OTHER THAN THE REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN, I DO NOT SEE DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH COMMUNITY VALUES OCCURRING WITH ANY REGULARITY.

THIS RESOLUTION SUPPORTS, QUOTE, INCREASING THE NUMBER OF AVAILABLE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

END QUOTE. IT FURTHER STATES THAT THE AMENDMENT WOULD, QUOTE, FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALL HOUSING TYPES.

END QUOTE. MOREOVER, QUOTE, THIS AMENDMENT IS MEANT TO REDUCE THE REGULATORY BURDEN OF REZONING PUBLIC OR QUASI PUBLICLY OWNED LANDS FOR THE USE OF HOUSING.

END QUOTE.

I CANNOT INTERPRET THAT AS A COMMITMENT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT RATHER AS A FURTHER ENCROACHMENT ON PUBLIC SPACE WITHOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS OF COMMUNITY INPUT. I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION AND ASK THAT YOU RECONSIDER AND LOOK AT THE IMPACTS CAREFULLY.

THERE MUST BE PATHWAYS TO WRITING OUR HOUSING CRISIS IN LESS CUMBERSOME WAYS THAT ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT AND PRESERVE PUBLIC SPACE.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT IN THE TABLE, IN THE INTENT, THE LINE THE ZONE IS INTENDED TO PRESERVE AND ENCOURAGE ITS CROSSED OUT.

THANK YOU.

KAREN NEWTIE.

HI, I'M KAREN AND I LIVE IN FLAGSTAFF AND ALL TOTAL.

I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 40 YEARS AND I JUST WANT TO START OUT BY SAYING THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, YOU KNOW, ACTIONS TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE ARE, TO ME, THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT OUR CITY NEEDS TO DEAL WITH RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT.

BUT MOST OF MY OWN PUBLIC SERVICE HAS BEEN IN THE ARENA OF LAND CONSERVATION AND CONTROL OF NON-NATIVE AND INVASIVE VEGETATION.

BUT IT IS. I'VE ALREADY I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.

SO I'M GOING TO JUST SAY THAT I ALSO NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE EXHIBIT A THAT ACCOMPANIES THE THE ZONING CODE USE TABLE OF THE ALTERNATIVE, THE NEWER ALTERNATIVE VERSION, THE CONDITIONAL VERSION, SO TO SPEAK.

I DID NOTICE THAT STRIKE OUT WHAT WAS STRIKED OUT TO PRESERVE AND ENCOURAGE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF PUBLIC LANDS.

AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE OPENING PHRASE OF THE INITIAL ZONING FOR FPS.

THAT BOTHERED ME A LOT.

AND SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASY FOR STAFF TO JUST SIMPLY.

KEEP THE WORD, YOU KNOW, PUT THE WORD IN THERE RESIDENTIAL IF THEY WANTED TO.

I DIDN'T SEE WHY IT WAS NECESSARY TO STRIKE THAT OUT.

SO IT GIVES ME PAUSE.

AND I WANT TO MENTION, TOO, THAT THE MAP OF THE ZONES PROVIDED ON THE WEBSITE AGENDA PAGE IS POORLY DETAILED IN MY VIEW.

FOR EXAMPLE IT DOESN'T SHOW WHICH AREAS OF THE CITY OWNED AIRPORT PV ZONE MIGHT BE SUITABLE FOR HOUSING.

SO SOMEONE JUST LOOKING AT IT WOULD THINK, OH LOOK, THERE'S THAT AREA TOO.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S LEFT THERE, I CAN'T TELL.

SO AND THEN THERE'S THE, THE AREA PARK, THE THORPE PARK AREA.

IT DOES NOT SHOW ALL FOUR AREAS, SO TO SPEAK, OF THORPE PARK.

SO I'M WONDERING, DOES THAT MEAN THAT ONE AREA IS NOT ZONED FF AND THAT'S CONFUSING TO ME.

AND THEN SO JUST EVERYONE HAS ALREADY COVERED THIS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BUT YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE ALTERNATIVE VERSION HAS THIS CONDITION IN IT, BUT THAT DOES NOT REASSURE ME AT ALL.

BASICALLY ALL THAT IT SAYS IS THAT THE BUILDING FORM AND PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WOULD BE ACCORDING TO HIGH, HIGH RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND, YOU KNOW, AIR ZONING THAT'S GOING UP ALL OVER FLAGSTAFF IS NOT AFFORDABLE TO FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS WHO HOLD POSITIONS AT PAY LEVELS TYPICAL FOR TEACHING, POLICING, FIREFIGHTING, NURSING, RETAIL, HOTEL AND RESTAURANT SERVICE.

YOU ALL KNOW THAT.

SO THIS SWEEPING ZONING CHANGE IS ONLY GOING TO ASSURE US THE ONLY TYPE THAT WE CAN COUNT ON IS THE UNAFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE SEE BEING BUILT AROUND US TODAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, PLEASE TABLE THIS FOR COMMUNITY DISCUSSION.

WE CAN'T JUSTIFY THIS ZONING CHANGE ON THE BACKS OF ADVOCACY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DUFFY WESTHEIMER.

HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

DUFFY. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR LIKE 43 YEARS, MOSTLY DOWNTOWN.

AND I SENT YOU A LETTER.

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PLEASE STUDY THE DETAILS OF THE AIR ZONE.

IT'S CRITICAL, AS WE HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE TIMES HERE.

NOW, I WAS GOING TO READ THIS, BUT NOW SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID GREAT THINGS.

THE LAWYERS DON'T LOOK AT INTENT, THE LAWYERS LOOK AT THE DETAILS.

AND WE'VE HAD MAJOR PROBLEMS WHERE THINGS GET WE'RE TOLD ONE THING AND SOMETHING ELSE GETS BUILT, AND THE COMMUNITY IS VERY UPSET ABOUT IT.

AND I THINK THAT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOTTEN UP AND SPOKEN, WE'VE ALL BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, WELL, ALMOST ALL OF US.

AND THE POINT IS THAT WE WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO EXPERIENCE WHAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED.

WE DON'T WANT TO REPLACE FLAGSTAFF WITH FIVE STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS, A TOTALLY DIFFERENT LIFESTYLE.

IF THE CITY AND OUR NONPROFITS COME TOGETHER AND WE FUND OUR OWN PROJECTS, WE DON'T NEED THESE PRIVATE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE PUSHING UP THE PRICES. WE CAN DO THIS, AND THEN PEOPLE CAN HAVE HOMES INSTEAD OF LIVING IN FIVE STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS.

AND WE DON'T NEED THESE PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.

THEY HAVE PUSHED UP THE PRICE OF HOUSING HERE.

IF YOU LOOK AT AND THEY COME IN AND THEY SAY ONE THING AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND THEY WANT TO REZONE IT, THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT, OH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO APARTMENTS NOW.

WE NEED TO SELL THEM AS CONDOS.

THE ONES ACROSS FROM THE OLD CREDIT UNION ARE SELLING FOR ALMOST $500,000.

AND SOME OF THEM, YOU DON'T EVEN GET A PARKING PLACE.

WE HAVE TO TAKE CONTROL BACK FROM THE DEVELOPERS.

THEY'RE ONLY HERE FOR PROFIT.

IT'S THE TRUTH.

AND I WELCOME EVERYBODY INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND LIVE THE WAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LIVE, BECAUSE WE CAME HERE WHEN PRICES WERE REASONABLE.

AND AS A COMMUNITY.

LET'S TAKE THAT BACK.

LET'S MAKE THIS HAPPEN FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

THEY CAN LIVE HERE.

THEY CAN HAVE A FLAGSTAFF QUALITY OF LIFE INSTEAD OF A BIG CITY QUALITY OF LIFE.

I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO WOULD COME HERE TO LIVE IN A FIVE STORY APARTMENT BUILDING.

I'M SORRY. IN FACT, THE ONES DOWN BY THE OLD CREDIT UNION, THEY ADVERTISE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET TO THE AIRPORT.

REALLY? THAT'S NOT FOR FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS.

SO LET'S BUILD FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

OKAY. AND I, YOU KNOW, I LIVE ACROSS BY FEDERATED MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.

IF YOU WOULD STAND OVER THERE AND LOOK TO THE SOUTH, YOU'LL SEE THE KIND OF CHANGE THAT'S CREEPING INTO OUR MOST IMPORTANT AREAS OF FLAGSTAFF THE PARCELS, THE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT SLOWLY AND REFLECT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.

SO LET'S LET'S JUST TAKE THIS BACK AND KEEP FLAGSTAFF FLAGSTAFF AND DO IT OURSELVES AND NOT USE THESE BIG DEVELOPERS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ANTHONY GARCIA.

HELLO, MADAM. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ANTHONY GARCIA.

2212 NORTH CENTER STREET.

AND I'M HOPING TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT CONTEXT TO TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION.

I DIDN'T PLAN ON SPEAKING, BUT LISTENING TO THE GROUP.

I AGREE WITH ROSE AND MICHAEL THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO JUST LEAVE THIS ALONE.

BUT THE REASON WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT HERE IS REALLY GOING FOR ANYTHING THEY CAN.

THEY'RE WAY PAST THE LOW HANGING FRUIT.

THEY'RE DOING GREAT ON THEIR GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY CAN TO GET THROUGH HOUSING.

THEY'RE REALLY SCRIMPING AND SCRAPING TO FIND ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR HOUSING.

AND THAT'S WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US TODAY, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

NOW, SINCE WE'RE TAKING AWAY A ZONING PART OF THIS AND AND ADDING IT TO THE PV ZONING THE REASON THAT WE NEEDED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

AND I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT YOU, DEB, BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY THE REASON I CAME.

I WAS LISTENING IN MY CAR, AND I WAS LIKE, I'VE GOT TO STOP BY THERE.

AND JUST BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU'RE FIGHTING AGAINST IS THE SAME THING THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD ACTUALLY BE FIGHTING FOR, AND THAT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT RAIL HEADED OR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PUSHED INTO A CORNER BY UNBRIDLED DEVELOPMENT, SO TO SPEAK, THAT WE DO HAVE A STEP IN THE PROCESS WHERE WE CAN KIND OF LOOK THINGS OVER ONE LAST TIME, SINCE WE ARE DEFINITELY TAKING AWAY A PART OF ZONING BY ADDING IT TO THE PV ZONE.

AND THIS IS HOW DIRE IT IS, WE'RE I MEAN, I LOOK AT THINGS THAT ALSO AS A RISK TO REWARD RATIO.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE 181 PROPERTIES AND SAY THAT THERE MIGHT BE TWO, THERE MIGHT BE MORE.

WE HAVEN'T FIGURED IT OUT YET, BUT IT'S SUCH A SMALL NUMBER.

AND THAT'S ONLY 40% OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THERE'S 60% THAT THE PARTNERS OWN.

THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS TO OUR HOUSING STAFF.

NOW THAT'S THE REWARD AND IT'S VERY SMALL.

SO THE RISK INCREASES BY A LOT ON THIS END.

AND THAT'S WHY THE C CUP CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD WOULD BE HELPFUL IS.

SO THAT WAY WE CAN MITIGATE THAT RISK SINCE WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THE REWARD IS IS KIND OF IS KIND OF A NICHE.

AND YEAH, I, I DON'T I THINK WE'RE KIND OF FIGHTING FOR THE SAME THING.

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AND, AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THE CITY IS WHAT'S KIND OF LEADING, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER 60% THAT ARE ALSO COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THE CITY IS THE LEADERSHIP FOR THAT.

SO BEYOND THIS AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE PUT THIS TO THE SIDE, IT'S UP TO, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US AS LEADERSHIP TO TAKE IT TO THE 60% THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH CONTROL OVER AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE CARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FACE TO FACE.

BECAUSE ONCE THE RESOLUTION'S PASSED, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

BUT BEYOND THAT, WE HAVE OUR OWN VOICES TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM AND LET THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL, AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MIRANDA.

THANK YOU, TYLER DENHAM.

HI, MY NAME IS TYLER DENHAM.

I'M HERE SPEAKING AS MYSELF.

I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS SHORT AND TO THE POINT.

I HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT THE CHANGE TO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL AND PUBLIC FACILITY ZONES.

AND I THINK REQUIRING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS AN ACCEPTABLE COMPROMISE TO ALLOW RESIDENTS TO VOICE FUTURE TO RESIDENTS A VOICE ON FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS.

FLAGSTAFF HAS A HOUSING CRISIS.

YOU'RE ALL AWARE. A HOUSING CRISIS THAT FORCED OUT MY OWN BROTHER, MY CHILDHOOD BEST FRIEND, AND MANY OF MY COWORKERS.

A HOUSING CRISIS DRIVEN BY A LACK OF HOUSING.

THIS PARTICULAR ACTION, EXPLORING RESIDENTIAL AND PUBLIC FACILITY ZONES, IS LISTED AS A GOAL OF THE TEN YEAR HOUSING PLAN, WHICH FEATURED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THE VOTE TODAY IS REALLY JUST HONORING ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO SPOKE UP PREVIOUSLY AND SETTING THE GOALS OF THE TEN YEAR HOUSING PLAN.

AND I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT THAT I'M GOING TO MAKE OFF THE CUFF.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS TODAY, SORT OF.

DENIGRATING APARTMENTS AND HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING.

AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE THE FIRST SEVERAL YEARS OF MY LIFE IN FLAGSTAFF, I LIVED IN AN APARTMENT.

ALL OF MY FRIENDS LIVED IN APARTMENTS.

ALL OF MY PEERS DID.

BECAUSE AN APARTMENT IS WHAT YOU LIVE IN WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO BUY A HOME.

BLOCKING THIS HOUSING IS ESSENTIALLY BLOCKING THOSE KINDS OF PEOPLE.

I NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STAY IN FLAGSTAFF IF THAT HAD NOT BEEN AVAILABLE TO ME WHILE I WAS BUILDING UP MONEY TO BUY MY OWN HOME.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

BYE. THANK YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY I MOVE THAT WE MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. SO FOR THE PUBLIC, WE ARE GOING TO STEP OUT AND CONSULT WITH OUR ATTORNEYS.

AND WE WILL BE BACK IN HOPEFULLY A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

SO WE ARE STILL ON ITEM.

TEN E AND IN CASE IT WASN'T CLEAR WHEN WE LEFT, WHEN WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, IT IS NOT TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE.

IT IS ONLY TO ASK LEGAL QUESTIONS OF OUR ATTORNEYS.

SO SOME QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE ATTORNEYS THEY ASKED THEM.

AND NOW WE ARE BACK TO DISCUSS.

AND I WILL ALSO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK BEFORE WE GET TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

WE'LL TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK.

SO WE HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS LEFT TO GO THROUGH, AND THEN WE'LL BE TAKING A BREAK.

OKAY. COUNCIL.

QUESTIONS. COMMENTS.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I WANT TO START BY THANKING THE PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT TO SPEAK ON THIS TONIGHT.

AS WELL AS THE THE CONTINUED AND LONG INTENSIVE WORK THAT STAFF HAS DONE ON THIS AND INCLUDING THE PROCESS OF LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS ON THIS CONVERSATION.

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I WAS GOING TO SAVE IT FOR TWO FROM, BUT I THINK IT'S APPLICABLE HERE IS THIS PAST WEEK, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON A TRIP IN WASHINGTON, DC AND INADVERTENTLY FOUND MYSELF STAYING IN A HOTEL THAT WAS CONVERTED FROM APARTMENTS THAT WERE DEVELOPED IN, I WANT TO SAY, THE 1930S.

IN DC, AS AMONG THE FIRST APARTMENTS AND MULTI HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN THAT CITY IN OUR NATION'S CAPITAL.

AND WHAT REALLY STOOD OUT IN THE STORY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS THE FACT THAT IT WAS DEVELOPED AS A MULTIFAMILY USE FOR WEALTHY RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

AND I FIND IT INTERESTING AND APPROPRIATE TO THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT OUR PERCEPTIONS OF HOUSING.

HOUSING EQUITY AND HOUSING NEED HAS CHANGED OVER THE DECADES.

IT WAS CONVERTED INTO OFFICE BUILDINGS AND OFFICE SPACE AS THE POPULATION THERE BEGAN MOVING INTO SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOODS AND AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND DETERMINED THAT A THE APARTMENTS AND THE FULL FLOOR UNITS THAT THEY WERE IN WERE NO LONGER MATCHING THE LIFESTYLE THAT THEY DESIRED, NOT THAT IT WAS NO LONGER GOOD HOUSING, NOT THAT IT WAS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE HOUSING.

IT WAS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM AND FOR WHAT THEY DESIRED.

AND SO I FIND THAT VERY INTERESTING IN TERMS OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT AS WE THINK ABOUT.

SO MANY THINGS, IN PARTICULAR THE CONVERSATION OF WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS.

WHAT IS UPHOLDING AND PRESERVING AND ENSURING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL WHO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, FROM THE WEALTHIEST TO THE POOREST IN OUR COMMUNITY? I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT SO MUCH OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS AFFORDABLE HAS BECOME A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THE POOREST IN OUR COMMUNITIES DESERVE.

I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE CONVERSATION OF STYLES AND TYPES OF HOUSING HAS BECOME THAT SORT OF CONVERSATION AS WELL.

BUT COMING BACK TO THIS AND THIS AMENDMENT, I LOOK AT THIS PROPOSAL AS SOMETHING THAT IS ADDRESSING A NUMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS IN A WAY THAT BYPASSES THE COMMON CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE ABOUT COMPETING NEEDS.

IT LOOKS AT THEM IN UNISON.

IT LOOKS AT THEM IN A MORE HOLISTIC VIEW OF OUR HOUSING NEEDS, OUR DESIRE FOR OPEN SPACE AND PUBLIC SPACES AND PARKS AND ALL OF THOSE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT WE VALUE AS COMMUNITIES.

IT LOOKS AT THE NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS AND PEOPLE ACROSS THE SPECTRUM OF WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD, WHAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO, AND IT'S FINDING WAYS TO COMPROMISE AND REACH SOME FORM OF CONSENSUS TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS IN NEW AND UNIQUE AND COLLABORATIVE WAYS.

SO I COME TO THIS TOPIC WITH A LOT OF GRATITUDE FOR THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN AND THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

I VALUE THE VOICES OF THOSE THAT ARE SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THOSE PUBLIC AREAS, AND EVEN MORE SO IN SUPPORT OF THE MAINTAINING OF THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY'S VOICE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD NEVER OVERLOOK OR FORGET TO BE MINDFUL OF.

I THINK IN THAT CONSIDERATION, WE ALSO NEED TO REMEMBER THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OFTEN NOT GIVEN ACCESS OR HAVING ACCESS TO THESE ROOMS, TO THESE SPACES AND TO THESE CONVERSATIONS, MANY OF WHOM ARE NOT HERE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS CONVERSATION TONIGHT.

I DON'T BY ANY MEANS THINK THAT I HAVE THE PLACE OR THE PRIVILEGE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THOSE WHO ARE IN STANDING IN THE MOST NEED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

ALTHOUGH I AM A PROUD NOT ALWAYS AND NOT NECESSARILY BY CHOICE BUT LOVING LIVING IN MY STUDIO APARTMENT WITH MY BEAUTIFUL FUR BABIES FINDING THE PLACE THAT I GET TO CALL HOME IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT I GET TO LOVE. SEE PEOPLE CREATE GREEN SPACES WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S IN THEIR WINDOWS OR WITHIN PUBLIC GARDENS IN AND

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BUT SEEING THOSE SETTLED IN THE MIDST OF A NEARBY PARK IN THE MIDST OF OTHER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD OF THIS COMMUNITY, AND SEEING HOW FLAGSTAFF CAN ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THOSE NEEDS IN AND THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN THESE UNIQUE WAYS IS VERY TELLING TO ME.

SO I HAVE CERTAINLY GONE ON LONGER THAN I MEANT OR PLANNED TO.

BUT I, I WANT ALL THOSE THINGS TO BE SPOKEN AND SAID IN THE MIDST OF THIS CONVERSATION AS WE CONSIDER THIS ZONING CODE CHANGE AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN LOOKING AT HOW WE ADDRESS THE VARYING NEEDS, I WILL NOT CALL THEM COMPETING NEEDS, BUT THE COMPLEMENTARY NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR ALL.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

MOST PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME KNOW THAT I CHAMPION THE CAUSE FOR THE UNSHELTERED.

I STARTED MY OWN NONPROFIT AND REPURPOSED A HOTEL.

THE FIRST ONE OF ITS KIND FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.

AND SO I CAN TELL YOU WITH CERTAINTY THAT WHEN MY RESIDENTS WHO 85% OF THEM SUCCESSFULLY TRANSITIONED OUT OF OUR PROGRAM, GO INTO APARTMENTS, THEY SAVE A LOT OF MONEY, AND IT TAKES A LOT JUST TO MOVE INTO AN APARTMENT.

AND THEY'RE THRILLED TO FIND AN AFFORDABLE APARTMENT.

I KNOW THAT IT'S HARD TO, TO LOOK BACK AT HOW THINGS WERE AND, AND NOT WANT THINGS TO CHANGE.

BUT WE DO HAVE TWO CRISES.

AS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS SAID, WE HAVE A CLIMATE CRISIS, AND WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.

AND THE HOUSING CRISIS IS NOT GOING TO BE SOLVED BY ONE ACTION OF COUNCIL OR DEVELOPERS OR PROPERTY OWNERS.

THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE ABOUT RENTING SOME OF HIS PROPERTY AT LITTLE UNDER A MARKET RATE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I DO A SHARED HOUSING WITH A COUPLE.

MY HUSBAND AND I DON'T NEED A TWO STORY HOUSE.

IT'S A LITTLE AWKWARD AT TIMES, BUT MY THREE BIG DOGS, YOU KNOW, AS THEY COME THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR, HAVE GONE TO LOVE THEM.

AND SO IT DOES TAKE A COMMUNITY TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.

HAVING SAID THAT, WE NEED TO LOOSEN UP SOME OF THE REINS.

AND AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE ALWAYS JUST REALLY BOTHERED ME, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, IS THAT SOMETIMES FIVE PEOPLE CAN SPEAK UP AT THE RIGHT TIME AND SWAY COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION THAT POSSIBLY DOESN'T REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

I KNOW THAT WHEN WE DID OUR TEN YEAR HOUSING PLAN, THERE WAS HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF COMMUNITY INPUT OUTREACH.

MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS BROUGHT UP A VERY GOOD POINT THAT.

MOST PEOPLE ARE ORGANIZED THAT COME TO SPEAK MAY NOT ALWAYS BE REPRESENTING THOSE UNHEARD, THAT DON'T FEEL THEY DO HAVE A VOICE, AND THEY DON'T FEEL THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK OR KNOW HOW TO SPEAK.

AND I LOOK BACK AT YOU KNOW THAT THE HOURS THAT OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT PUT INTO THE HOUSING PLAN THAT MENTIONED THIS WHILE WE'RE HERE TODAY TO GET TO THIS POINT, BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE HOUSING PLAN, IT WAS PART OF THE ENDLESS HOURS OF STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS AND COMMUNITY THAT PROBABLY MORE OF THEM ARE THE ONES THAT ARE MOST IMPACTED THAN THE ONES MAYBE THAT KNOW TO SEND US AN EMAIL AND STUFF.

SO I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THAT.

I DO LIKE THE CONTINUED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE TIME, BUT IT I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT MAYBE THE AUTHORITIES OF THE PNC.

I KNOW THAT WE GET SO WRAPPED UP IN.

IT'S A FULL TIME JOB, AND I DON'T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE AGENDA OF THE PNC TO TO BE ABLE TO JUMP IN AND SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU KNOW, WHY DID YOU GUYS VOTE THAT WAY? MAYBE I'M OPPOSED TO IT.

AND I HAD ONLY TEN DAYS.

AND SO MOST LIKELY 99.9% OF THOSE DECISIONS MAY GET PAST ME.

SO MAYBE WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, BUT DEFINITELY PUTTING THAT LAYER IN FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

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GOOD. THE NUMBERED ONES, THE SECOND PAGE.

SO SECTION TWO.

WELL, SECTION ONE, TWO AND THREE REALLY PROVIDE ME SOME COMFORT.

AND KNOWING THAT WE ARE SAYING THAT CITY OWNED LAND AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT INCLUDE SITES NECESSARY FOR CORE CITY FUNCTIONS, INCLUDING EXISTING PARKS OR FUTURE DESIGNATED PARKS.

AND SO THAT IS A LAYER OF COMFORT THAT I HAVE.

I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS WITH THE RESOLUTION, AND I TOO APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT.

AGAIN, WHEN I FIRST DECIDED TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL, ONE OF MY MOTIVATIONS WAS THERE'S SO MUCH THAT GOES ON AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT, AND SO IT IS REALLY REASSURING TO SEE SO MUCH COMMUNITY COMMENTS AND INPUT AND PARTICIPATION, BECAUSE IT TAKES A COMMUNITY AND IT TAKES WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING AND WE DON'T GET IT ALWAYS RIGHT, BUT WE ALWAYS TRY TO WEIGH ALL THE CONSEQUENCES AND BE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I THANK EVERYBODY FOR SHOWING UP, FOR EVERYBODY THAT EMAILED, EVERYBODY THAT GAVE ALL THE HUNDREDS OF HOURS AND THE TEN YEAR HOUSING PLAN.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT IS SWAYING ME.

SO THANK YOU, TYLER, FOR REMINDING US OF THAT, TOO.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'LL JUST MENTION QUICKLY THAT I AM IN MY EIGHTH YEAR ON CITY COUNCIL, AND BEFORE THAT, I WAS ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR SIX YEARS.

I WAS THE CHAIRMAN FOR A PART OF THAT.

AND MOST OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE ARE PRETTY EASY, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM ARE.

SOME OF THEM ARE DIFFICULT.

LIKE TONIGHT, FOR INSTANCE.

I WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC FOR COMING OUT AND SPEAKING THEIR MIND, REGARDLESS OF WHICH SIDE OF THE ISSUE YOU'RE ON.

AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I GUESS I HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DOES NOT ADEQUATELY PROTECT THE CITY FROM POSSIBILITIES.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF NEW THINGS TO ADD.

MY COLLEAGUES DID SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB.

BUT AGAIN STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY, I'VE READ ALL THE EMAILS.

I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE TIME AND THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

IT'S GREAT TO SEE EVERYONE IN THE ROOM.

WE MAY NOT ALL AGREE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WE PROBABLY AGREE THAT WE'RE IN A HOUSING CRISIS.

SO I DO THINK THIS MOVES US IN A GOOD DIRECTION.

AND I WILL SUPPORT THIS ONLY WITH THE CUP ADDED ON.

AND AGAIN, I WE'RE ALL HERE FOR THE SAME REASON.

WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.

AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

I'M SORRY. I CAN'T GET MY THING TO WORK, SO.

ALL RIGHT, SO I DO HAVE A COUPLE THINGS TO SAY.

HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT, AND WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT.

WE NEED TO PUT PEOPLE FIRST.

WE NEED TO NOT.

GET SIDETRACKED BY OUR FEAR AND WE NEED TO NOT LET PEOPLE.

MAKE US AFRAID.

OFTENTIMES WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF RUMORS OUT THERE.

AND I HEARD YESTERDAY THAT WE WERE GOING TO TAKE ALL THE PARKS AND FLAGSTAFF, AND WE WERE GOING TO GIVE THEM TO DEVELOPERS SO THEY COULD BUILD LUXURY APARTMENTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM, BUT IT'S OUT THERE AND I TRY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, BUT PEOPLE WILL USE THOSE FEAR TACTICS TO GET PEOPLE TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT THEM TO DO.

AND SO WE AS A COMMUNITY HAVE TO JUST BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

WE HAVE A HOUSING EMERGENCY.

WE ARE IN CRISIS HERE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIX THIS OVERNIGHT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT ONE PROJECT AT A TIME.

WE HEARD FROM FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME, AND THAT THEY REMEMBER FLAGSTAFF THE WAY IT USED TO BE.

THEY REMEMBER WHEN THEY CAME HERE AND THEY COULD AFFORD TO BUY A HOUSE, AND THAT WAS GREAT.

IF IT WERE NOT FOR ME HAVING HOUSING AS PART OF MY SALARY WHEN I WORKED AT NIU, WHEN I CAME OUT HERE, I WOULD

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AND SO I BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF.

WHAT COMMUNITIES AND WHAT BUSINESSES AND WHAT EMPLOYERS CAN DO FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.

WE CAN ALL AGREE TO DISAGREE, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE DISAGREEABLE.

AND OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS TO RECOGNIZE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING IF WE WALK AROUND BEING MAD AND ANGRY AND UPSET WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER THAT.

I KNOW A YOUNG COUPLE AND THEY HAVE TWO CHILDREN NOW, AND THEY'RE LIVING IN A ONE BEDROOM HOUSE OR APARTMENT THAT'S NOT CONDUCIVE FOR THOSE YOUNG KIDS, AND IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE FOR THEIR PARENTS.

THEY CAN'T AFFORD ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT.

AND SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY, WELL, IT'S NOT MY FAULT BECAUSE THEY HAD TWO KIDS.

THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.

THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT THERE ARE GROWING FAMILY AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE.

THEY WANT TO LIVE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

I KNOW ANOTHER COUPLE THAT WORKED FOR THE CITY, AND THEY HAVE TO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE CITY, AND WE COUNT ON THEM TO DO THE WORK FOR THE CITY, BUT THEY CAN'T LIVE IN THE PLACE THAT THEY HAVE TO, THAT THEY'RE WORKING AND THAT THEY'RE SERVING US.

AND THEN THE LAST COUPLE.

LOST THEIR APARTMENT AND HAD TO SCRAMBLE TO FIND.

AND THEY WORKED FOR THE CITY TOO.

THEY HAD TO SCRAMBLE TO FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO LIVE.

WITHIN A MATTER OF A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, BECAUSE THEIR LANDLORD DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO SELL THEIR HOUSE BECAUSE THEY COULD MAKE A LOT MORE MONEY.

AND TOO BAD THAT THERE WAS A FAMILY THERE THAT NEEDED THAT SPACE.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING AND WHO DESERVES HOUSING, WE NEED TO THINK REALLY, REALLY HARD ABOUT ALL THESE FOLKS THAT ARE SITTING AROUND HERE WHO ARE.

THE PEOPLE OUT AT THE COUNTER THAT ARE SERVING US WHEN WE COME TO PAY OUR BILLS, THE OFFICERS THAT ARE SITTING IN THE BACK.

THE FOLKS THAT ARE CLEANING THIS BUILDING, THE FOLKS THAT ARE CLEANING OUR PARKS, KEEPING THEM UP.

WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THEM BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.

AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS ORDINANCE WHEN IT, WHEN WE COME UP TO, TO VOTE AND I WILL BE DOING IT WITH THE CUP EVEN THOUGH I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

BUT FOR THE SAKE OF GETTING THIS DONE, I WILL COMPROMISE.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO REFLECT ON I SAID THAT I FIRST GOT ELECTED TO COUNCIL EIGHT YEARS AGO.

THE ISSUE WHEN I RAN FOR COUNCIL WAS THE HUB, THE 60 FOOT BUILDING.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT I CAN SUPPORT A MEASURE THAT WILL, IN EFFECT, ALLOW THAT TALL OF A BUILDING TO BE PUT ALMOST ANYWHERE.

OKAY. FIRST I WANT TO THANK STAFF AND APPRECIATE STAFF.

I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK.

IS THAT TIFFANY BESIDE.

YOU KNOW.

OKAY, SO SHE'S STILL IN THE FRONT ROW.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC AND MEETING WITH SO MANY OF US AND REALLY HAVING SOME GREAT DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS AND AND WHAT IT MEANS.

TO FLAGSTAFF IN THE FUTURE.

AND I WANT TO THANK MORE GENERALLY ALL OF OUR STAFF, BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT WE WANT TO BE ADDRESSING OUR HOUSING EMERGENCY AND OUR CLIMATE EMERGENCY IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

AND SO WHEN YOU BRING ITEMS LIKE THIS FORWARD, I'M I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE.

YOU'VE HEARD US AND AND YOU'RE HELPING US.

THE HOUSING.

THE HOUSING PLAN.

I TOO WORKED ON THE HOUSING PLAN.

AND. THROUGH THROUGH MANY, MANY MEETINGS AND PUBLIC OUTREACH.

AND I FEEL.

I FEEL POSITIVE THAT OUR HOUSING ISSUES WILL BE ADDRESSED ONE DECISION AT A TIME.

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THERE IS NO MAGIC.

THERE'S NO ONE THING THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE.

AND. COUNCIL.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HEAR IT MORE THAN OTHERS, BUT WE HEAR A LOT OF HEARTBREAKING STORIES FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE INVESTED THEIR LIVES IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, BUT ARE FINDING IT NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO STAY.

AND SO I'M ALWAYS FEELING LIKE WE'RE AT A CROSSROADS OF A OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO, WHETHER WE WANT TO BE AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY THAT REWARDS THAT KIND OF PERSONAL INVESTMENT IN OUR SCHOOLS AND IN OUR NONPROFITS, OR WHETHER WE WILL END UP AS A SECOND HOME.

A SECOND HOME COMMUNITY.

I APPRECIATE THE THE EMPHASIS THAT'S BEEN PUT ON PROTECTING PARKS.

AND I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN THAT THE PUBLIC BROUGHT TO US ABOUT PROTECTING PARKS.

I THINK THAT THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY FRONT AND CENTER.

THAT AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ALL DO WANT TO PROTECT OUR PARKS AND ALSO WANT TO PROTECT FUTURE PARKS.

WE'VE GOT SOME EXCITING PLANS.

AS SOON AS WE GET THE MONEY, WE WILL BE DOING THOSE.

AND THE CUP IS A PUBLIC PROCESS.

AND. A COUNCIL CAN REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING DECISION COMES TO US.

FOR FURTHER INVESTIGATION INTO THE CUP.

SO. BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THE HOUSING EMERGENCY.

BECAUSE I'M INVESTED IN FINDING.

SOLUTIONS TO OUR HOUSING EMERGENCY.

BECAUSE THIS PROTECTS PARKS IS JUST ANOTHER TOOL IN THE TOOL BELT.

AND AND IMPORTANTLY, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO BROUGHT FORWARD THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO ADD INTO THIS.

THANK YOU.

BECAUSE IT IS SO CRITICAL TO KEEP THE PUBLIC PROCESS.

WHILE STILL ADDRESSING OUR HOUSING NEEDS.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS WITH THE CUP.

AND I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE IS READY TO MAKE A MOTION.

SO WHEN YOU DO, IF YOU WOULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU INDICATE.

WHICH VERSION? THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DID HAVE ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION BEFORE I MAKE THE FIRST MOTION ON THIS.

IN TERMS OF ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION, IS IT NECESSARY TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE ABOUT THE INCLUSION OF THE CUP, OR IS THAT ONLY PART OF THE ORDINANCE? SO THE THE EXHIBIT IS PART OF THE RESOLUTION.

SO WHAT CHANGES IS THE EXHIBIT TO THE RESOLUTION.

SO JUST SELECT WHICH EXHIBIT YOU WOULD YOU'RE APPROVING FOR THAT RESOLUTION.

AND I THINK IT'S CALLED ALTERNATE.

THE REVISED EXHIBIT A THANK YOU.

WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD INCLUDE IN THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. SO I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 4-05 WITH THE REVISED EXHIBIT A ASSOCIATED.

MADAM MAYOR, I SECOND THAT MOTION.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OPPOSED? AYE.

CITY CLERK.

MAYOR, I ACTUALLY DON'T NEED TO READ THAT ONE.

THAT'S AN ADOPTION.

AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE ORDINANCE IN WHICH I'LL READ.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT OKAY, SO DOWN TO F.

DID SOMEONE SAY SOMETHING? YEAH, THERE'S TWO MORE ON THIS, SO I'LL MOVE TO READ ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 403 BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FINAL TIME, WITH THE AMENDMENT INCLUDING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

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ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE.

NOW. OPPOSED.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AMENDING THE FLAGSTAFF CITY CODE TITLE TEN, FLAGSTAFF ZONING CODE, BY ADOPTING BY REFERENCE THAT CERTAIN DOCUMENT ENTITLED HE'S 23-00136- RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE PUBLIC FACILITY ZONE PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES, REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, SEVERABILITY AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AS AMENDED.

THANK YOU.

ANOTHER MOTION.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 403, AS AMENDED.

I'LL SECOND ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OPPOSED. THANK YOU.

MOVING DOWN TO F CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH 11.

[F. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2024-11: A resolution of the Flagstaff City Council prioritizing the development of affordable housing for Flagstaff residents at a range of income levels as determined by current needs on lands owned by the City of Flagstaff that are made available for development. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Read Resolution No. 2024-11 by title only City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2024-11 by title only (if approved above) Adopt Resolution No. 2024-11]

THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR I, I I I I.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL PRIORITIZING THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR FLAGSTAFF RESIDENTS AT A RANGE OF INCOME LEVELS, AS DETERMINED BY CURRENT NEEDS, ON LANDS OWNED BY THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF THAT ARE MADE AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND PROVIDING FOR EXCEPTIONS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING RESOLUTIONS, AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU.

MOTION TO ADOPT MAYOR.

I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-11.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOVING DOWN.

TO ITEM NUMBER 11, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS.

[A. Consideration and Adoption of Ordinance No. 2024-10: An ordinance of the City Council of the City of Flagstaff, amending the Flagstaff Zoning Map to rezone approximately 18.24 acres of real property generally located at 6500 E Route 66, from the Rural Residential (RR) zone with a Resource Protection Overlay (RPO) to the Heavy Industrial (HI) zone with a Resource Protection Overlay (RPO), providing for severability, authority for clerical corrections, and establishing an effective date. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: At the March 19, 2024 Council Meeting: 1) Hold the public hearing. 2) Read Ordinance No. 2024-10 by title only for the first time 3) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2024-10 by title only (if approved above) At the April 2, 2024 Council Meeting: 4) Read Ordinance No. 2024-10 by title only for the final time 5) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2024-10 by title only (if approved above) 6) Adopt Ordinance No. 2024-10]

SO I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THIS IS A CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-10.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

MY NAME IS LESLIE WELCH WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU A WILDCAT INDUSTRIAL PARK DIRECT ORDINANCE REZONE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IN THE ATTACHMENTS.

I'M GOING TO GO OVER KIND OF THE MAIN POINTS AND WE CAN TALK AFTERWARDS.

SO JUST A LITTLE OVERVIEW.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 6500 EAST ROUTE 66.

IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF OVER BY THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

PICTURE CANYON AREA.

THE APPLICANT WISHES TO UTILIZE A PORTION OF THE EXISTING MINE THAT'S NO LONGER VIABLE TO LEASE OUT HIS CONTRACT YARDS.

SO RIGHT NOW IT'S ZONED AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL WITH THE RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY.

THE RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY WAS ADDED WHEN WE DID THE NEW ZONING CODE, OR IT WAS IN THE ZONING CODE IN 2011.

IT'S BEEN A MINE.

IT'S BEEN A MINE FOR A LONG TIME.

SO WE ARE GOING TO REZONE IT WITH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL WITH RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY, EVEN THOUGH THERE AREN'T MANY RESOURCES LEFT ON SITE TO PROTECT A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, IT'S BEEN HISTORICALLY OPERATED AS A VOLCANIC CINDER MINE.

A PORTION OF THE SITE IS NO LONGER MINEABLE, SO THE APPLICANT WANTS TO ESTABLISH CONTRACTOR YARDS THAT ARE LEASED OUT TO LOCAL COMPANIES.

THEY KIND OF IDENTIFIED A NEED FOR AN AREA TO STORE EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES, AND THIS SEEMED TO KIND OF MESH WELL WITH WHAT THEY HAD ON THEIR SITE.

THE CURRENT ZONING DESIGNATION DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THIS USE.

AND ALSO THE APPLICANT WAS REQUIRED TO BRING A WATER LINE TO THE PROPERTY BEFORE THE REZONE WAS TAKEN TO PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE'S SOME DATES FROM 2019 2020.

THAT'S KIND OF THE REASON FOR THE LONG PAUSE PROPERTY CONTEXT MAP.

SO WE HAVE THE MINING LAND THAT'S GOING TO BE ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH AND THE EAST.

TO THE WEST IS THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

AND THEN TO THE SOUTH IS THE COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST AND RIGHT OF WAY.

JUST TO KIND OF BRIEFLY GO OVER.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE.

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS.

ONE IS A DIRECT ORDINANCE THAT'S TIED TO A SITE PLAN DIRECTLY.

THE OTHER IS A CONCEPT PLAN THAT'S MORE OF A GENERAL IDEA, AND THERE'S A LITTLE MORE OPEN TO IT.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A DIRECT ORDINANCE, AND THE SITE PLAN ATTACHED TO THIS WILL BE WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON THE PROPERTY AFTER THE REZONE.

SO HERE'S THE SITE PLAN WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S JUST THAT PORTION KIND OF IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER.

THERE'S GOING TO BE 15 CONTRACTOR YARDS.

THERE ARE TWO SMALL EXISTING BUILDINGS ON SITE THAT WILL REMAIN.

IT'S 18.24 ACRE SITE.

THERE WAS PARKING FOR THE OFFICE AND SHOP.

IT'S NOT REQUIRED FOR THE CONTRACTOR YARDS.

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DRAINAGE STATEMENT WAS PROVIDED AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN DRAWINGS AND WAS APPROVED BY STORMWATER, AND THERE WAS A WATER SEWER IMPACT THAT WAS COMPLETED ON DECEMBER 2ND OF 2019 AND APPROVED BY CITY STAFF.

THIS IS KIND OF WHERE THE WATER LINE EXTENSION THE CITY WAS CONSTRUCTING THE 12 INCH MAIN.

AND SO THEN WE ASKED THE DEVELOPER TO CONSTRUCT THE WATER LINE EXTENSION TO THEIR SITE FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES.

SO THERE ARE THREE FINDINGS THAT HAVE TO BE MET WHENEVER YOU'RE DOING A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FINDING.

ONE IS THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT MUST BE FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH, AND IN CONFORMANCE WITH, THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND ANY APPLICABLE SPECIFIC PLANS. STAFF REPORTS ARE GOING TO GO IN DETAIL ON THE GOALS AND POLICIES AND HOW IT MEETS THOSE.

I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO COVER THE FACT THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED AS A FUTURE EMPLOYMENT AREA TYPE, AND THOSE AREA TYPES HAVE MIXED USE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT OFFICES, BUSINESS PARK, RETAIL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND LIVE WORK SPACES.

FINDING TWO IS THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT MUST BE DETERMINED NOT TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST, HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE OR WELFARE OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND WILL ADD TO THE PUBLIC GOOD.

STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY.

WE'RE ACTUALLY KEEPING THESE EQUIPMENT AND THESE VEHICLES IN ONE LOCATION, KIND OF AWAY FROM FROM GENERAL PUBLIC AREAS.

AND FINDING THREE IS THAT IT MUST BE DETERMINED TO BE PHYSICALLY SUITABLE IN TERMS OF DESIGN, LOCATION, SHAPE, SHAPE, SIZE AND OPERATING CHARACTERISTICS, EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS, PUBLIC SERVICES.

MAKE SURE THAT PREPARED FOR WHAT'S GOING TO GO ON IT.

THIS DID GO THROUGH THE IDS.

IT WAS REVIEWED BY ALL DEPARTMENTS AND IT WAS IT MEETS ALL APPLICABLE CODES AND REQUIREMENTS.

AND THEN I ALSO JUST KIND OF WANT TO REITERATE THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT WATER LINE, WAS REQUIRED THEM TO BRING IT THERE FOR POSSIBLE FIRE HAZARDS.

AND THEY NOW HAVE A HYDRANT ON SITE.

SO THE APPLICANT HELD TWO VIRTUAL PUBLIC MEETINGS.

ONE WAS IN 2020 VIRTUALLY, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS DECEMBER 18TH, 2023, VIRTUALLY AS WELL.

WE WANTED THEM TO HAVE ONE KIND OF CLOSER TO THIS PUBLIC MEETING, BECAUSE PEOPLE MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN THINGS IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

FROM WHAT I'VE READ, THE MAJORITY OF ATTENDEES WERE IN SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED REZONE.

THERE WAS ONE CONCERN RELATED TO TRAFFIC IF THE SITE WAS DEVELOPED FURTHER, THIS IS ONLY GOING TO REZONE ONE PORTION OF THE SITE.

IF THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THE OTHER PORTIONS OF THE SITE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REZONE THOSE AS WELL.

SO PARTICIPATION PARTICIPATION REPORT IS ATTACHED TO THE SUMMARY AND I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS ON THIS APPLICATION TO THIS DATE.

SO WE TOOK IT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE REQUIRED FINDINGS AND TO AN APPROVED THE ZONING MAP FOR 18.24 ACRES IN THE RR ZONE WITH THE RPO TO THE HIGH ZONE WITH THE RPO.

WE DID PLACE A STIPULATION THAT AFTERWARDS THEY WOULD HAVE TO RECONFIGURE THE PARCELS TO ELIMINATE ANY SPLIT ZONING, SO THAT 18.24 YOU COULD SEE EARLIER WAS ON A FEW DIFFERENT PARCELS. THAT'S GOING TO BECOME ONE PARCEL IN AND OF ITSELF.

I KNOW WE HAVE THE APPLICANT.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME PEOPLE TO TALK.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME BEFORE WE PROCEED? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO I'M A VISUAL AND I'M NOT REAL FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, ALTHOUGH I'VE HIKED PICTURE CANYON.

BUT WE'VE HEARD IN THE PAST RESIDENTIAL COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRAFFIC GETTING TO I THINK A, AN AREA THAT'S CLOSE TO THAT OR MAYBE THAT'S THE AREA.

HOW ARE ALL THESE EQUIPMENT TRUCKS GOING TO GET OFF 89 OR 66 OVER TO THAT ZONING.

SO IT'S DIRECTLY OFF OF ROUTE 66, THE OLD ROUTE 66.

SO THEY'LL BE PULLING DIRECTLY OFF 66.

I'M MAYBE I'M UNSURE OF THE QUESTION.

OKAY. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THEY WILL NOT OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO TAKE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALL RIGHT. FIRST WE HAVE WAYNE CHADWICK.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS WAYNE CHADWICK.

I OWN A FLAG TRUCK CENTER, WHICH IS ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF TO THE WEST OF ROBERTS PLACE.

66, IN THE LAST.

I DON'T KNOW. TWO YEARS HAS BECOME PRETTY HIGHLY TRAVELED ROAD.

A LOT OF EQUIPMENT.

AND WHERE ROBERT IS SETTING UP HIS PLACE IS A VERY MUCH NEEDED.

PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO PARK, PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF TRAFFIC, NOT PARK THEIR TRUCKS OR THEIR EQUIPMENT AT THEIR HOUSES.

IT'S IT'S ESSENTIAL.

THEY'RE JUST DOWN THE ROAD FROM ME, LIKE I SAID, LIKE A MILE AND A HALF.

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I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GREAT THING AND IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

JULIE SMITH.

JULIE SMITH.

ALL RIGHT, WARREN SMITH.

GOOD EVENING. I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF FLAGSTAFF FOR 55 YEARS AND IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS TO BOOT.

SO I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE PROJECT FOR THE INDUSTRIAL PARK IS A GREAT IDEA, THAT IT IS OUT OF THE CONGESTED AREAS EASILY ACCESSED FROM I-40 TO ROUTE 66.

RIGHT ON IN.

NO PROBLEMS WITH YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL AREAS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND GROWING UP IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS THERE IS A DEFINITE NEED JUST LIKE WAYNE SAID, THAT YOU KNOW, I CAN REMEMBER YEARS AND YEARS AGO THAT WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT AND TRUCKS SCATTERED ALL OVER TOWN TRYING TO TUCK INTO DIFFERENT PLACES BECAUSE THERE WASN'T SUFFICIENT AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO, TO PARK THEIR EQUIPMENT OR THEIR MATERIALS OR, YOU KNOW, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO I AM HIGHLY SUPPORTIVE FOR THIS, THAT I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

AND TO ADD TO IT THAT MY PROPERTY WHERE I, MY RESIDENCE IS I AM JUST SOUTH OF THIS PROJECT, JUST ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS IS WHERE MY PROPERTY IS.

SO I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE CLOSEST HOUSES TO IT, AND I SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU, VAL PEAVY.

I'M VAL PEAVY AT 5335 SNOWBALL DRIVE, FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA.

I'VE LIVED IN FLAGSTAFF SINCE 1960, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN FLAGSTAFF.

SOME FOR THE GOOD, SOME FOR THE BAD, AND THIS WILL BE ONE FOR THE BETTER, BECAUSE FLAGSTAFF DOES NEED A PLACE THAT TRUCKS AND EQUIPMENT CAN BE PARKED, WHICH AS A MINING SITE, THERE'S ALREADY EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING THERE.

AND THE ACCESS I'VE.

I'M IN AND OUT OF THERE CONSTANTLY, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY PROBLEMS WITH TRAFFIC GOING IN OR GOING OUT.

AND AS FAR AS IT BEING A RESIDENTIAL AREA TO EVER BUILD HOUSES, NO ONE WANTS TO BUILD A HOUSE NEXT TO ALL THOSE SEWER PONDS BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY DO SMELL SO AND, AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST SITES FOR WHAT ROBERT HAS PLANNED.

AND WHEN WHEN THE MILLER FAMILY SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S DONE RIGHT AND ALWAYS TO WHAT EVERYONE WANTS, HE IS REAL.

LOOKS INTO WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS AND THE PEOPLE.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.

I SUPPORT THIS TOTALLY.

AND THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? AND IF THERE ARE NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAYOR. BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION, WE'LL NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, YES. SORRY, I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF.

I WAS ALREADY.

I MIGHT HAVE ALREADY BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE BREAK.

HEY. ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN DELIBERATION.

ALL RIGHT.

SO AT THIS MEETING, WE ARE LOOKING TO READ THE ORDINANCE BY TITLE FOR THE FIRST TIME.

IF I COULD GET A MOTION.

MAYOR, I MOVE TO READ ORDINANCE 2024 DASH TEN BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FIRST TIME.

THANK YOU.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?

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ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

SO NOW CITY CLERK, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AMENDING THE FLAGSTAFF ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 18.24 ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 6500 EAST ROUTE 66 FROM THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL RR ZONE WITH A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY RPO TO THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL HIGH ZONE WITH A RESOURCE PROTECTION OVERLAY.

RPO PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AUTHORITY FOR CLERICAL CORRECTIONS AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. OKAY, BEFORE WE MOVE INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK AND WE SHALL BE BACK AND RESUME THE MEETING.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA 12 A PARKING DISTRICT ENFORCEMENT UPDATE AND CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER

[A. Parking District Enforcement Update and Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2024-10 and Ordinance No. 2024-06: A Resolution of the Flagstaff City Council declaring as a public record that certain document filed with the City Clerk and entitled "2024 Parking Code Amendments"; and, an Ordinance of the Flagstaff City Council, amending the Flagstaff City Code, Title 9 Traffic, Chapter 9-01 Traffic Code, by adopting by reference that certain document entitled "2024 Parking Code Amendments"; providing for repeal of conflicting ordinances, severability, and establishing an effective date. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: At the March 19, 2024 Council Meeting: 1. Read Resolution No. 2024-10 by title only 2. City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2024-10 by title only (if approved above) 3. Read Ordinance No. 2024-06 by title only for the first time 4. City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2024-06 by title only (if approved above) At the April 2, 2024 Council Meeting: 5. Adopt Resolution No. 2024-10 6. Read Ordinance No. 2024-06 by title only for the final time 7. City Clerk reads Ordinance No.2024-06 by title only (if approved above) 8. Adopt Ordinance No. 2024-06]

AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-06.

GOOD. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC.

I AM GAIL BROCKMAN.

I'M YOUR PARKING MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

AND BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE FIRST READ BY TITLE ONLY OF OUR ORDINANCE TONIGHT, I DO HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ANY TIME, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STOP ME AND ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.

I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT.

THERE IS ONE ADDITIONAL SLIDE IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN YOUR ORIGINAL PACKET.

AND I ADDED IT JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION.

IT'S THE SAME INFORMATION.

I JUST BELIEVE IT'S EASIER TO READ.

SO I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE GET THERE.

OKAY. SO AS I SAID BEFORE, IT'S JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF DOWNTOWN PARKING.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR ENFORCEMENT POLICIES, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER OUR CODE UPDATES.

OKAY. FIRST, OUR PARKING DISTRICT OVERVIEW.

EXCUSE ME. OVERVIEW.

AS MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW, A PARK MANAGES PARKING ON OVER 60 SQUARE BLOCKS DOWNTOWN AS WELL AS THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND JUST THIS LAST YEAR, WE ADDED PARKING MANAGEMENT TO THE FLAGSTAFF MUNICIPAL AIRPORT.

WHAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW IS PARK FLAG EMPLOYEES SPECIFIC.

SPECIFICALLY, PARKING AIDES ARE EMPLOYEES OF BOTH ECONOMIC VITALITY, WHICH WE LOVE, AND AS WELL AS FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE ALSO LOVE.

THIS IS WHAT GIVES US THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE PARKING CITATIONS WITHIN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

WE ISSUE WARNINGS AND CITATIONS FOR ALL TITLE NINE TRAFFIC CODE VIOLATIONS REGARDING PARKING.

IT'S NOT JUST A FAILURE TO PAY THE METER, IT'S ALSO PARKED ILLEGALLY IN ADA SPACES.

TOO CLOSE TO FIRE HYDRANTS, NODDING YOUR LINES AND MARKS AS WELL AS OTHERS.

DOWNTOWN. WE CONTINUE TO ISSUE THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF WARNINGS AS WE DO CITATIONS.

YET, PARK FLAG MANAGES AN INTERNAL REPEAT OFFENDERS LIST THAT IDENTIFIES OVER 500 INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE THREE OR MORE UNPAID PARKING VIOLATIONS.

SINCE THE PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION IN 2017, PAK FLAG HAS ALWAYS PROCESSED CITATION PAYMENTS EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH THE PROGRAM INTERNALLY, THROUGH THE PROGRAM, I APOLOGIZE.

WE ONLY ENTER CITATIONS INTO THE MUNICIPAL COURT WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL CHOOSES TO CONTEST A PARKING CITATION.

THIS APPROACH HAS LIMITED PAK FLAG'S ABILITY TO ADDRESS INDIVIDUALS WITH MULTIPLE CITATIONS.

CURRENT CODE DOES INCLUDE PROCEDURES TO CREATE AN IMMOBILIZATION LIST FOR THESE REPEAT OFFENDERS, BUT WITHOUT PAK FLAG ENTERING ALL CITATIONS INTO THE COURT SYSTEM, WE ARE FACING CHALLENGES IN COLLECTING OUTSTANDING FINES, FEES AS WELL AS ADDING VEHICLES TO A POTENTIAL IMMOBILIZATION LIST.

THE PROGRAM'S INABILITY TO ADDRESS REPEAT OFFENDERS HAS HAD NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE PROGRAM.

NOT ONLY DOES THE COURT SEE A LOSS IN CITATION FINES AND FEES, BUT IT'S CULTIVATING POOR PARKING HABITS IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

IT IS ALSO CREATING LOW MORALE AMONGST PARKING STAFF.

TO ADDRESS THIS PARK LAG BEGINS TO ENTER ALL CITATIONS.

YOU KNOW WHAT, I APOLOGIZE, IT TOLD ME TO SWITCH SIDES AND I DID NOT.

MAYBE CURRENT ONE.

I'M SORRY. ONE.

TWO. THREE.

WE'RE STILL ON THE RIGHT ONE. OKAY.

TO ADDRESS THIS, PARK FLAG PLANS TO BEGIN ENTERING ALL CITATIONS THAT ARE NOT PAID IN THE PARK FLAG SYSTEM WITHIN THE ALLOTTED TIME.

CURRENTLY, IT'S 14 DAYS.

15 DAYS. IF THEY'RE NOT PAID WITHIN THAT A LOT OF TIME FRAME, THEY WILL BE ENTERED INTO THE MUNICIPAL COURT.

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THERE WE GO. BEGINNING NEXT MONTH, APRIL OF 2024, PARK FLAG WILL BEGIN PROCESSING CITATIONS USING THE EXISTING CODE AUTHORITY.

WE'LL BE ENTERING CITATIONS INTO THE MUNICIPAL COURT, WHICH WILL BEGIN TO GIVE US THE CAPABILITY TO ESTABLISH AND A MOBILIZATION LIST FOR UNPAID PARKING CITATIONS. NOW, VEHICLES WILL BE ONLY ADDED TO A MOBILIZATION LIST AFTER THEY HAVE RECEIVED THREE OR MORE PARKING CITATIONS FOR THE SAME VEHICLE, AND THOSE THREE CITATIONS HAVE BEEN PROCESSED THROUGH THE COURT AND A JUDGMENT HAS BEEN MADE.

THESE JUDGMENTS CAN EITHER BE MADE THROUGH DEFAULT, MEANING THE OFFENDER DID NOT PAY, OR CONTEST THE CITATION WITHIN THIS SPECIFIC TIME FRAME, OR BY A JUDGE'S DECISION FINDING A DEFENDANT RESPONSIBLE DURING A PARKING HEARING.

DURING THIS PROCESS, WE HAVE BEEN UPDATING THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE, PROVIDING THEM WITH INFORMATION THAT THEY CAN THEN SHARE WITH THEIR BOARD ON A REGULAR BASIS.

WE HAVE ALSO DRAFTED A LETTER.

IT IS PENDING LEGAL APPROVAL CURRENTLY TO BE SENT TO ALL REGISTERED OWNERS WHO ARE ON OUR CURRENT SCOFFLAW LIST.

WE CALL IT WHO HAVE MORE THREE OR MORE UNPAID PARKING VIOLATIONS.

OKAY, SO THIS WAS THE SLIDE THAT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS A LOT TO READ AND GET THROUGH.

AS I EXPLAINED, THE NEW PROCESS WITH THE NEW PROCESS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

SO I'VE CREATED JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A CHART.

MAYBE THE COLOR MAKES IT BETTER, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THIS IS OUR NEW PROCESS FOR ISSUING CITATIONS AND THEN ENTERING THEM INTO THE CART INTO THE COURT ON DAY ONE. SO FIRST, THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION WILL BE ISSUED TO A PARKER OR A VIOLATOR AT THE TIME OF A PARKING INFRACTION.

IT WILL BE PLACED ON THE VEHICLE AS SPECIFIED IN THE CURRENT CODE.

THE. THE VIOLATOR WILL THEN HAVE 15 DAYS TO PAY THE FEES AND THE FINES THAT ARE STATED ON THE REVERSE SIDE OF THE PARKING CITATION.

THEY CAN EITHER PAY IT OR THEY CAN CONTEST IT THROUGH PARK FLAG AT THAT TIME ON THE 16TH DAY, IF THEY HAVE NOT PAID AND THEY HAVE NOT CONTESTED THAT CITE, THAT NOTICE OF VIOLATION WILL BE ENTERED INTO THE FLAGSTAFF MUNICIPAL COURT AS A CITATION.

AND THEN THE VIOLATOR WILL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 15 DAYS TO EITHER PAY OR CONTEST THE CITATION THROUGH THE MUNICIPAL COURT.

IF, AFTER 30 DAYS, THE COURT HAS NOT RECEIVED PAYMENT OR A NOTICE OF INTENT TO CONTEST THE CITATION THROUGH A PARKING HEARING, A DEFAULT JUDGMENT OF RESPONSIBLE WILL BE ISSUED.

SO AFTER THREE UNPAID.

AFTER THREE UNPAID PARKING CITATIONS.

THE CITY WILL THEN SEND NOTICE OF THE IMPENDING PLACEMENT ON AN IMMOBILIZATION LIST.

THE REGISTERED OWNER WILL THEN HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO PAY THOSE OUTSTANDING FINES AND FEES TO THE FLAGSTAFF MUNICIPAL COURT.

IF THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE, IF THE REGISTERED OWNER, IF THE WHOEVER IS THIS IS BASED ON LICENSE PLATE NUMBERS AND VEHICLES.

SO IT COULD BE ANYBODY THAT IS DRIVING THE VEHICLE.

IF THE VEHICLE IS FOUND DOWNTOWN.

IN THE PARKING DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY.

AND THEY'VE CHOSEN NOT TO PAY THEIR FINES AND FEES.

IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THEIR VEHICLE WILL BE IMMOBILIZED OR EVEN IMPOUNDED AT THAT TIME.

THE REGISTERED OWNER WILL NEED TO PAY THE PARKING TICKETS ALONG WITH THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE MOBILIZATION, TOWING AND STORAGE IN ORDER TO OBTAIN A RELEASE.

A RELEASE? OF THAT VEHICLE.

SO THOSE ARE THE THE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE NEW PROCESS FOR US ISSUING CITATIONS AND THEN ENTERING THEM INTO THE COURT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? COUNCIL. QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

YOU KNOW, PARKING DOWNTOWN'S ALWAYS BEEN TRICKY, AND I HAVE MYSELF GOTTEN A COUPLE OF PARKING TICKETS.

AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, I PAY THEM, AND I GUESS I'M REALLY GLAD NOW.

I AM WONDERING, HOW DO YOU NOTIFY THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE? IS IT CERTIFIED MAIL? HOW DO WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT THEY GET THE NOTICE? SO THE THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS, THE CITATION WILL BE PLACED ON THE WINDOW.

WE USUALLY PLACE A CITATION ON THE.

AND I MIGHT BE GOING A COUPLE OF STEPS BACK, BUT I WILL GET THERE.

THE CITATION IS PLACED ON THE VEHICLE EITHER THE WINDOW.

SOMETIMES IF IT'S A MOTORCYCLE, IT'S BY THE SEAT.

IF IT'S A LARGE TRUCK, IT MIGHT BE ON THE DOOR HANDLE.

AND THEY HAVE 15 DAYS TO PAY OR CONTEST.

AT THE TIME WE ENTER IT INTO THE COURT, WE WILL BE SENDING A LETTER TO THE REGISTERED OWNER THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED A VIOLATION BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S NOT THE REGISTERED OWNER

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SO WHEN WE ENTER THE CITATION INTO THE COURT, WE'LL BE SENDING A REGULAR LETTER TO THE REGISTERED OWNER SAYING YOU RECEIVED A CITATION THAT'S BEING ENTERED INTO THE COURT NOW.

WHEN THEY HAVE RECEIVED THREE AND THEY'VE GONE UNCONTESTED, UNPAID.

THEN THEY WILL BE ENTERED ONTO THE IMMOBILIZATION LIST.

AND AT THAT POINT IT WILL BE CERTIFIED.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

IF IT IS SOMEONE THAT WE KNOW THAT WORKS IN THE DOWNTOWN, WE COULD POSSIBLY PLACE IT ON THEIR VEHICLE.

WE COULD POSSIBLY PLACE IT, LEAVE IT WITH THEM AT THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IT.

THANK YOU. I GUESS MY CONCERN AND YOU KIND OF ANSWERED IT, WAS THAT THEY GET A CERTIFIED LETTER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY RECEIVE THE NOTIFICATION.

OH. YOU ARE. OH GO AHEAD MARIANNE.

THANK YOU. SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

JUST TO TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME UPDATES TO THE ORDINANCE.

AND ONE OF THOSE IS AND IN DOING THE LEGAL RESEARCH TO DETERMINE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS TYPE OF THING, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED.

AND SO THEREFORE IT WON'T.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MARIANNE. I'M GLAD MY.

I'M GLAD MY HELP IS HERE.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THIS TEAM.

THAT'S THAT'S HELPED ME THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

IT'S MARY ANNE SULLIVAN AND ANYA WENDEL AND DAVID MCINTYRE, AS WELL AS HEIDI LOFGREN AND JESSICA CORTEZ FROM THE COURT, I, I'M NERVOUS ENOUGH UP HERE TALKING ABOUT PARKING BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A HOT TOPIC.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE HAVING BACK UP HERE TONIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

MY NAME IS NOT ON THAT LIST, RIGHT? NO IT'S NOT.

NO, I HAVEN'T GOT A TICKET IN A LONG TIME.

OKAY. AND I'VE RECEIVED MY WARNING, TOO.

SO ANYBODY CAN GET A PARKING TICKET.

OKAY, SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE NEXT SLIDE WHICH IS DESCRIBING THE ACTUAL PARKING CODE UPDATES.

SO THESE CODE CHANGES WERE NOT ONLY NEEDED TO ADDRESS THE REPEAT OFFENDERS, BUT THESE CODE CHANGES NEEDED TO CLARIFY HOW CITATIONS WERE PROCESSED BY PAK FLAG, AS WELL AS HOW PARKING CITATIONS WERE ISSUED AND PROCESSED BY THE FLAGSTAFF POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THIS CODE CLARIFIES THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ISSUES PARKING CITATIONS AND PARK FLAG ISSUES, NOTICES OF VIOLATIONS.

IT PROVIDES THAT IF AN OWNER FAILS TO PAY OR CONTEST A NOTICE OF VIOLATION WITHIN 15 DAYS, THAT PARK FLAG MUST FILE A COMPLAINT AS A CITATION.

ON THE 16TH DAY WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL COURT.

IT CLARIFIES.

THE COURT WILL ENTER A DEFAULT JUDGMENT 30 DAYS AFTER THE PARKING CITATION OR THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION HAS BEEN ISSUED.

IF IT'S NOT PAID OR CONTESTED, IT ALSO CLARIFIES THAT POST IMPOUNDMENT HEARINGS ARE ONLY AVAILABLE IF A VEHICLE HAS BEEN TOWED WITHOUT HAVE BEEN PROPERLY PLACED ON THE IMMOBILIZATION IMPOUNDMENT LIST.

WE HOPE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

IT ALSO ADDS THAT THE COURT WILL SEND UNPAID PARKING JUDGMENTS TO A COLLECTION AGENCY.

YOU KNOW, ONCE, ONCE WE HAVE COMPLETED BOTH READS NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS OUR REPEAT OFFENDERS.

WE DO PLAN ON NOTIFYING OUR REPEAT OFFENDERS.

BUT WE WILL NOTIFY THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

ABOUT PARK FLAGS. INTENTION TO USE A MOBILIZATION LIST AND IMPOUNDMENT MEASURES.

AND IF THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED, THE PARKING CODE UPDATES WILL BE EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS THEREAFTER.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO READ THE RESOLUTION.

MAYOR. I'LL MOVE TO READ RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 4-10 BY TITLE ONLY.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. CITY CLERK.

A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL DECLARING AS A PUBLIC RECORD THAT CERTAIN DOCUMENT FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK AND ENTITLED 2024 PARKING CODE AMENDMENTS.

THANK YOU TO HAVE A MOTION TO READ THE ORDINANCE.

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MAYOR, I MOVE TO READ ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-06 BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FIRST TIME.

AND A SECOND.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. CITY CLERK.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AMENDING THE FLAGSTAFF CITY CODE.

TITLE NINE TRAFFIC.

CHAPTER 9-01.

TRAFFIC CODE BY ADOPTING BY REFERENCE THAT CERTAIN DOCUMENT ENTITLED 2024 PARKING CODE AMENDMENTS PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, SEVERABILITY AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. ALL RIGHT.

ITEM B CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.

RENTAL INCENTIVE BOND PROGRAM AWARDS.

[B. Consideration and Approval: Rental Incentive Bond Program Awards STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve two Rental Incentive Bond Program Awards totaling $3,330,000 resulting in 139 affordable rental units, as recommended by the Ranking Committee.]

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

IT'S BEEN REALLY FUN SEEING EVERYBODY'S COLORFUL DECORATIONS, LOOKING UP AND SEEING COLOR INSTEAD OF NORMAL BROWN DESKS.

HOW DO I PUT THIS INTO PRESENT MODE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JENNIFER MICHAELSON.

I'M THE HOUSING PLANNING MANAGER WITH THE HOUSING SECTION HERE AT THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.

IT'S GOOD. WELL, I'M IT'S EXCITING.

AND I'M PROUD TO HAVE REACHED THIS POINT WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT FUNDING FOR FOR PROJECTS.

WITH FLAGSTAFF'S FIRST EVER HOUSING BOND.

IT'S VERY EXCITING TIME.

SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND WHAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY FOR STAFF IS REQUESTING COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF TWO RENTAL INCENTIVE BOND PROGRAM AWARDS TOTALING $3,330,000 FOR PROJECTS THAT WOULD RESULT IN ABOUT 139 NEW AFFORDABLE RENTAL UNITS.

AS WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE RANKING COMMITTEE.

AND FOR NOW, I JUST WANT TO SHARE.

FOR NOW, WE'RE ONLY SEEKING COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THE FUNDING AMOUNTS.

THE ACTUAL CONTRACTS FOR FOR FUNDING WOULD REQUIRE, WILL REQUIRE, REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL LATER.

WE'LL BE BRINGING THOSE BACK TO AT A FUTURE MEETING.

SO MORE WORK TO BE DONE ON THAT.

SO LET ME PROVIDE A QUICK REVIEW OF HOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO THIS POINT.

THIS FUNDING IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE FLAGSTAFF VOTERS APPROVED PROPOSITION 442.

ABOUT I COUNTED ABOUT 17 MONTHS AGO WHICH GAVE THE CITY APPROVAL TO ACCESS $20 MILLION IN GENERAL OBLIGATION FUNDS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING EFFORTS. ONE OF THE SPENDING CATEGORIES IDENTIFIED IN PROP 442 WAS TO INCENTIVIZE THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO INCORPORATE AFFORDABLE RENTAL UNITS IN NEW DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO $5 MILLION IN BOND FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED TO THIS EFFORT.

THE LAST TIME COUNCIL SAW THIS PROGRAM WAS LAST NOVEMBER TO IMPROVE THE RENTAL INCENTIVE PROGRAM BY RESOLUTION.

THAT IS THE POLICY DOCUMENT THAT SET FORTH THE ELIGIBILITY GUIDELINES AND THE COMPETITIVE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THIS FUNDING.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO PROVIDE LOANS TO DEVELOPERS PROVIDING AT LEAST 10% AFFORDABLE RENTAL UNITS IN NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND THOSE AFFORDABLE UNITS MUST SERVE HOUSEHOLDS EARNING UP TO 80% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

AND BEFORE WE GET TO THE AWARDS AND THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES, I JUST WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SOLICITATION PROCESS THAT WAS CONDUCTED THIS WINTER.

ON FEBRUARY 2ND, THE CITY PUBLISHED A NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY, OR NOFA, FOR $5 MILLION IN PROGRAM FUNDS ON STAFF DEVELOPED.

WE DEVELOPED A SIMPLE APPLICATION WITH FACT BASED EVALUATION CRITERIA TO HELP STREAMLINE THE EVALUATION PROCESS.

THREE APPLICATIONS WERE RECEIVED BY THE CLOSING DATE ON FEBRUARY 19TH.

HOUSING STAFF THEN CONDUCTED A MINIMUM THRESHOLD REVIEW.

ONE APPLICATION WAS DETERMINED TO BE TOO FAR INTO THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO BE DETERMINED ELIGIBLE FOR EVALUATION, BUT THE TWO PROJECTS WERE DEEMED ELIGIBLE AND FORWARDED TO A RANKING COMMITTEE FOR THEIR EVALUATION.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE SCORED THE APPLICATIONS INDIVIDUALLY, AND THEN MET ON MARCH 4TH TO DISCUSS THE TOTAL SCORES FOR EACH OF THE APPLICATIONS.

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SO I CAN GET INTO THE PROJECTS.

I MADE A TABLE HERE SHOWING DETAILS OF BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS.

FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR LIVING.

THEY SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS FOR TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS AS PART OF THEIR TWO PHASED REDEVELOPMENT OF THE DOWNTOWN BLOCK, LOCATED AT 320 NORTH HUMPHREY STREET. YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR.

FOUNDATION FOR SENIOR LIVING, OR FSL AS THEY'RE CALLED, IS A NONPROFIT, LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT DEVELOPER.

AND EACH PHASE OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSIDERED A SEPARATE PROJECT, WITH SEPARATE FINANCING EFFORTS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

MISTER STEVE HASTINGS, CHIEF OF REAL ESTATE SERVICES FOR FSL, IS ATTENDING TONIGHT'S MEETING VIRTUALLY.

I SAW HIM EARLIER.

I DID SEE HIM ONLINE, AND HE IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO TO THOSE PROJECTS.

SO YEAH, LET'S GET INTO APPLICATION.

NUMBER ONE WAS FOR A PROJECT CALLED SAN FRANCISCO SQUARE.

THIS PROJECT REQUESTED $1,680,000 IN FUNDING AND HAS A TOTAL PROJECT COST OF OVER $35 MILLION.

THIS PROJECT IS 100% AFFORDABLE AND WILL INCLUDE 70 UNITS DESIGNATED TO SENIORS 62 AND AND OLDER.

WITH HOUSEHOLD INCOMES UP TO 80% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF FINANCIAL BACKGROUND FOR THIS PROJECT.

THIS PROJECT IS ALREADY RECEIVED OR SECURED FUNDING, I SHOULD SAY IN PART THROUGH CONDITIONALLY APPROVED TAX EXEMPT BONDS WITH 4% LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS.

MOUTHFUL. 5 MILLION IN STATE HOUSING TRUST FUNDS FROM THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING.

$7 MILLION IN FEDERAL APPROPRIATIONS THROUGH SENATOR SINEMA'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS PRIVATE FUNDING.

REALLY JUST MOVE ON TO APPLICATION NUMBER TWO IS CALLED ASPEN LOFTS.

THIS PROJECT REQUESTED A SIMILAR AMOUNT OF $1,650,000 IN FUNDING, AND HAS A TOTAL PROJECT COST OF OVER $29 MILLION.

THIS PROJECT IS ALSO 100% AFFORDABLE, AND CONSISTS OF 69 UNITS FOR FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS, EARNING UP TO 60%.

OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

I KNOW THAT'S WHAT THAT TABLE SAYS.

I JUST WANT TO NOTE HERE THAT I LEARNED YESTERDAY FROM STEVE THAT THE NUMBER UNIT ON THIS PROJECT IS IN FLUX DUE TO FUNDING, FUNDING CONCERNS.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE ALL KNOW COSTS HAVE INCREASED DRAMATICALLY SINCE THIS PROJECT WAS CONCEPTUALIZED.

SO WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE THE 69 NUMBER MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE GOING FORWARD.

AGAIN, I'LL LET STEVE SPEAK TO THAT IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT EXACT UNIT COUNT.

BUT YEAH. SO FINANCIAL INFORMATION FOR ASPEN LOFTS IS THEY FSL IS SUBMITTING THIS PROJECT FOR 9% TAX CREDITS WITH THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING IN JUST A FEW DAYS.

APRIL 1ST IS THE DEADLINE FOR THAT TAX CREDIT APPLICATION.

AS WE KNOW, EVERY YEAR IT'S JUST THIS CRUNCH TIME EVERY SPRING.

SO TAX CREDIT AWARDS ARE TYPICALLY ANNOUNCED IN JUNE OF EACH YEAR.

SO IN JUST A COUPLE MONTHS, WE'LL WE'LL KNOW IF THEY RECEIVE THEIR PRIMARY FUNDING.

SO JUST TO MOVE ON TO SCORING FOR THESE APPLICATIONS AND HOW WE ARRIVED AT FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS, THE NOFA IDENTIFIED THAT THE HIGHEST SCORING APPLICATION WOULD RECEIVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR FULL FUNDING, WITH ANY REMAINING FUNDING TO BE AWARDED TO THE NEXT HIGHEST SCORING APPLICATION UNTIL ALL FUNDING IS ALLOCATED.

SO GIVEN THOSE GUIDELINES AND GIVEN THAT WE RECEIVED TWO PRETTY HIGH SCORING APPLICATIONS FOR AFFORDABLE, 100% AFFORDABLE PROJECTS, STAFF BY WAY OF THE RANKING COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS FULLY FUNDING BOTH OF THESE APPLICATIONS FOR A TOTAL OF $3,330,000. ALL RIGHT.

AND IF COUNCIL APPROVES THE AWARD AMOUNTS TONIGHT STAFF WILL IMMEDIATELY ISSUE NOTICES OF AWARD TO THE DEVELOPER.

AND AGAIN, FSL WILL EARN POINTS BY INCLUDING THE CITY'S NOTICE OF AWARD IN THEIR WITH THEIR UPCOMING TAX CREDIT APPLICATION FOR ASPEN LOFTS ON APRIL 1ST. SO I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT FUNDING FOR FOR THEIR PROJECT WOULD BE CONTINGENT UPON THE SUCCESSFUL AWARD OF 9% LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS FROM THE STATE. AND BOND FUNDING WOULD BE PROVIDED AS 50 YEAR FORGIVABLE LOANS WHICH WILL BE DRAFTED AND BROUGHT FORWARD A SEPARATE CONSENT ITEMS I BELIEVE, AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING.

AND THAT JUST THE 50 YEAR TERM MEANS BOTH PROJECTS HAVE AGREED TO KEEP THOSE UNITS AFFORDABLE FOR 50 YEARS, WHICH IS ABOUT 20 YEARS.

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SO THAT'S WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT.

AND PER THE ADOPTED POLICY, THE RENTAL INCENTIVE BOND PROGRAM POLICY DOCUMENT, THE REMAINING $1,670,000 IN PROGRAM FUNDS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE AGAIN THROUGH A SUBSEQUENT NOFA PROCESS.

DATES FOR THAT NEXT ROUND HAVE NOT BEEN DETERMINED.

WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THOSE DETAILS YET.

SO THAT'S REALLY IT FOR MY MY PRESENTATION.

THE INFORMATION I HAVE TO SHARE.

YOU CAN SEE COUNCIL YOU CAN APPROVE, MODIFY OR REJECT OUR RECOMMENDATION.

I JUST WANT TO KEEP IN MIND MAKE NOTE THAT ANY DELAY IN AWARD WOULD HAVE IMPACTS ON FSL'S UPCOMING TAX CREDIT APPLICATION WITH THAT APRIL 1ST DEADLINE. SO WE DO HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

IT TOOK A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.

SO I'M APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE HELP I'VE, WE'VE ALL RECEIVED GETTING THIS TO THIS POINT.

SO YEAH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR DIRECTION ON THIS.

ANY QUESTIONS? WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

FIRST, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

VERY EXCITED TO SEE THESE THESE OPTIONS COMING FORWARD AND THIS PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD.

I'M JUST WONDERING IN TERMS OF THE ASPEN LOFTS APARTMENTS PROJECT, WITH THE UNIT COUNT BEING IN FLUX, AND I'M ASSUMING THE THE NUMBER OF THE ASK BEING BASED ON BOTH NUMBERS WERE WERE FAIRLY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, AND I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY BASED ON THE UNIT COUNT.

IS THAT AMOUNT OF THE AWARD ALSO IN FLUX WITH THAT, OR ARE THEY HOPING TO TO STAY WITH WITH THE AMOUNT OF THE ASK? SINCE THIS INFORMATION IS SO NEW, WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED HOW THIS WHAT THE WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE TO THE FINAL LOAN AMOUNT. I IMAGINE IT, IT, IT WOULD BE FAIR FOR FSL TO REQUEST TO, TO, TO KEEP THEIR ORIGINAL FUNDING REQUEST.

GIVEN SOME SLIGHT CHANGES OVER TIME.

BUT I GUESS I WOULD DEFER.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE SPECIFIC RULES ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO BE CALCULATING THAT, BUT I FROM MY PERSPECTIVE HERE, I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY.

COULD WE HEAR FROM MR. HASTINGS ABOUT WHY THE UNIT COUNT MIGHT DIFFER? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. YES.

THANK YOU, MARY DAGGETT.

COUNCIL. MEMBERS.

IT'S MICHAELSON. I DID GET TO HEAR THE CONVERSATION YOU HAD EARLIER TODAY ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND I TELL YOU, I WORK ALL AROUND THE STATE.

WE'VE GOT A PROPERTY UP ON MCMILLEN MESA.

FLAGSTAFF. SENIOR MEADOWS.

WE HAVE PROPERTIES IN WILLIAMS, COTTONWOOD, COLO.

AND YOU JUST GOT AN EXCELLENT STAFF.

CITY COUNCIL'S ALWAYS BEEN WILLING.

SO THE KEY FOR US IS NOT SO MUCH BARRIERS AND PROBLEMS ALONG THE WAY.

IT'S JUST FINDING ENOUGH MONEY TO PULL THESE DEALS TOGETHER.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OUR REQUEST FOR BOND FUNDING, SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR QUESTION.

THERE ARE SO MUCH THERE'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF CREDITS IN EACH APPLICATION.

PER PROJECT, ABOUT 2.5 MILLION.

AND IF YOU GET TOO MUCH EXPENSE, THE CREDITS DON'T COVER IT.

SO IF WE.

AND THEN CREDIT PRICES HAVE COME DOWN.

SO $0.85 A CREDIT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT ON AND 69 UNITS, WHICH WAS OUR ORIGINAL REQUEST.

IT CREATES ANOTHER $4 MILLION GAP.

IF WE SLIDE THAT BACK DOWN TO 65 UNITS, KEEPING THE ORIGINAL 70 FOR SAN FRANCISCO SQUARE AND JUST REDUCING THOSE ONE, TWO, THREE BEDROOMS DOWN TO 65.

WE BRING THE.

REFINANCE BACK INTO ALIGNMENT AND MAKE SENSE AGAIN.

AND IF WE'RE AWARDED THE 9% CREDITS FOR ASPEN LOSS WITH THIS FUNDING, WE CAN GO FORWARD.

WE DON'T HAVE A GAP.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE DID YOU HAVE WAS THERE ANOTHER PART OF YOUR QUESTION? NO, THAT WAS IT. BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT THAT FOLLOW UP AND THE EXPLANATION.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I WASN'T OPPOSED TO THE IDEA OF LEAVING IT AT THE SAME AMOUNT AND REALLY HEARING THAT IT'S A MAYBE A FOUR UNIT ISH DIFFERENCE DOESN'T REALLY RAISE ANY CONCERNS FOR ME, BUT IT IS HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION ON WHERE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT FUNDING GAP LIES FOR YOU ALL. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MATHEWS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK BEFORE TODAY.

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ESTIMATED HOPEFUL UNIT.

NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT WE WOULD GET THAT WE STATED IN OUR BOND QUESTION.

YES 400.

IT WAS FOUR TO IT WAS A RANGE.

IT WAS 4 TO 500.

SO WHEN I WAS DEVELOPING THIS THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS AND SCORING YOU KNOW, WITH OUR TEAM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO MAKE THEIR THEIR REQUESTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH LIKE A PER UNIT SUBSIDY AMOUNT.

SO IF WE HAVE $5 MILLION AND OUR GOAL IS, LET'S SAY 450 UNITS, THAT WAS WE WERE LOOKING AT A SUBSIDY PER UNIT OF ABOUT $12,000. IF WE WERE TO SPREAD IT SUPER EQUALLY ACROSS, YOU KNOW, EVERY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT BEING CREATED EQUALLY.

SO THAT WAS THAT WAS A LOOSE TARGET.

AND I MADE SOME WE MADE SOME SCORING.

SCORING IN THE APPLICATION QUESTIONS.

I DON'T WHAT'S THE WORD IS YOUR REQUEST TO $12,000 PER UNIT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE CLOSER YOU WERE TO THAT $12,000 MARK, THE MORE POINTS YOU GOT.

AND SO THE FURTHER YOU DEVIATED, THE MORE YOU WERE ASKING FOR PER UNIT, YOU GOT FEWER POINTS.

AND SO AND KNOWING THAT COSTS HAVE GONE UP SINCE, WHAT WAS THAT? TWO, I DON'T KNOW, THE, THE BOND COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER WITH STAFF MAKING PROJECTIONS AND ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THE RATE OF AFFORDABLE UNITS WE'VE RECEIVED IN THE PAST, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE DECADE, FIVE YEARS.

SO THAT 4 TO 500 NUMBER WAS HARD TO COME BY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

AND IT'S I THINK IT'S EVEN HARDER, I THINK, TO GET THAT SAME NUMBER OF UNITS DELIVERED WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.

SO I WAS EXPECTING US EXCEEDING THAT $12,000 PER UNIT SUBSIDY.

OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I THINK JUST FOR FUTURE BOND QUESTIONS, I THINK.

STAFF AND COUNCIL WE WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT, TO NOT OVERPROMISE.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE A FAR CRY FROM 400 BECAUSE NOW WE ONLY HAVE 1.6 MILLION LEFT OF THAT PART.

SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

ALSO, I WAS I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THE LOAN FORGIVENESS IS 50 YEARS BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME TAX CREDIT PROJECTS THAT ARE NOW COMING UP TO THEIR 15 YEAR AND WE MAY LOSE THEM, WHICH IS REALLY CONCERNING.

WHEN DOES PHASE TWO IF GET APPROVED FOR THE TAX CREDIT APPLICATION IN JUNE.

WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO START THAT PROJECT? I'M ASKING YOU, STEVE.

WEATHER'S A BIG FACTOR AS YOU AS YOU WELL KNOW.

SO WHEN WE GET THE AWARD IN JUNE WE'LL START MEETING WITH CITY STAFF AGAIN, GET THE FINAL DESIGNS READY, GET OUR PERMITS SUBMITTED.

START STAGING MATERIALS.

AND AS SOON AS THE GROUND THAWS AND THE SPRING OF 2025, WE'LL START CONSTRUCTION.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

OKAY, SO THE HOPE IS TO BREAK GROUND IN 2025.

CORRECT? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE SHORT, LIKE, FOUR UNITS FROM THE ORIGINAL, CORRECT? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO BUILDING COSTS AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS ARE GOING TO GO UP BETWEEN NOW AND 2025.

WHAT'S THE ASSURANCE THAT WE CAN STILL GET THOSE NUMBER OF.

UNITS. THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

BUT WE IF WE GET AN AWARD, IT'LL BE FOR 2.5 MILLION IN LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS.

AND AT THE 65 LEVEL, WE CAN COVER ALL THOSE UNITS.

THERE MAY BE SOME INCREMENTAL CHANGE IN WHAT THE PRICE OF THE CREDITS ARE.

PLUS, WE HAVE ABOUT A MILLION, $100,000 CONTINGENCY BECAUSE, LIKE YOU OBSERVED THESE COSTS, YOU CAN'T PIN THEM DOWN TILL YOU'RE STARTING TO WORK.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME CONTINGENCY BUILT IN.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

CAN YOU DESCRIBE MORE ABOUT WHY THE PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT MATTERS IN THE CRITERIA? WHY THE PHASE OF AGAIN FOR STEVE? NO. I'M SORRY.

IN TERMS OF OF THE CITY'S CRITERIA AND WHY THE ONE PROJECT WASN'T ELIGIBLE.

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WE HAD WE HAD THAT.

WE CALLED THAT PROJECT READINESS.

THAT WHOLE KIND OF A SERIES OF.

IT WAS A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE WHERE IS YOUR PROJECT AT IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS? AND WHEN WE WERE HERE IN THE FALL WORKING WITH COUNCIL ON THE POLICY DOCUMENT, I KNOW IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY TO HAVE THAT DOOR WIDE OPEN TO ALMOST ANY SCENARIO, REALLY, LIKE SOMEBODY JUST APPLYING FOR A REZONING APPLICATION WHICH IS VERY EARLY IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OR SOMEONE WHO'S LIKE ABOUT TO GET READY TO BUILD.

AND SO AND THAT CAN BE A TWO YEAR PROCESS REALLY, THAT WE'VE SEEN AT THE CITY.

SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS AT DIFFERENT PHASES OF DEVELOPMENT.

NOT TO MENTION THE TIME IT TOOK FOR US TO GET THIS PROGRAM READY.

WE WERE WATCHING AND KIND OF TRACKING SOME OF THESE PROJECT MAKE MAKE ADVANCEMENTS IN THEIR, IN THEIR CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE JUST IT WAS IT WAS A HARD THING TO DO.

BUT WE DID HAVE TO FIND AN ACTUAL CUT OFF MARK THAT MADE SENSE.

AND THAT CUT OFF MARK WAS A AT RISK OR GRADING AN AT RISK GRADING PERMIT OR A GRADING PERMIT WHICH IS THE PHASE RIGHT BEFORE YOU START GOING VERTICAL. I'M NOT I DON'T WANT TO GET SUPER TECHNICAL.

I'LL LEAVE THAT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

BUT THAT WAS I WE DISCUSSED WITH STAFF INTERNALLY WHAT IS AN APPROPRIATE SPOT TO TO MAKE THAT CUT OFF MARK BEFORE A PROJECT IS BEING BUILT AND READY TO BE UNDER OR POSSIBLY EVEN IF THEY'VE BEEN GIVING, YOU KNOW, GIVING, IF THEY'VE BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND HAVE HAD BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO GET THEIR CFO AND A FEW MONTHS, WE GIVE THEM A LOAN FOR A PROJECT THAT'S ALREADY DONE, ESSENTIALLY.

SO IT WAS A IT WAS A MORE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO THESE, THESE PUBLIC FUNDS THAT WERE NEW WITH WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO SEE PUBLIC DOLLARS GOING TO PROJECTS THAT WERE ALMOST DONE.

SO WE WE DID TAKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD CALL IT CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, BUT IN MY EYES, I MEAN, IT WAS HARD TO TO SEE WHERE EVERYBODY WAS AT AND TO HAVE TO PICK SOMEWHERE TO CUT OFF.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

SO THAT'S HOW WE CONSIDERED PROJECT, THE PROJECT READINESS SCORING SECTION OF, OF THE APPLICATION.

CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE REPAYMENT PROCESS AND THE 30 YEARS VERSUS 50 YEARS AND AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? IN TERMS OF MAYBE FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WE SEE.

YOU MEAN, WOULD WE TRY TO SHOOT FOR A 50 YEAR TERM IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT INSTEAD OF OUR TRADITIONAL 30 YEAR? OR DO I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THAT THE TERM IS 30 YEARS FOR THE LOAN? BUT IF YOU WILL COMMIT TO MAKING IT AFFORDABLE FOR 50 YEARS, THEN THE LOAN IS FORGIVABLE, CORRECT? SORRY, YES. JUST THE ACTUAL I GUESS CRITERIA UNDER THIS PROGRAM WAS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT WAS THAT EVERY, EVERY AFFORDABLE PROJECT, WHETHER YOU HAD 10% AFFORDABLE UNITS OR YOU WERE LIKE FSL'S AND HAD 100% THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT WAS WE WANTED TO SEE 30 YEAR AFFORDABILITY TERM AT WHICH TIME AND THEN IF THAT WAS YOUR MINIMUM AND THAT WAS YOUR IT OR SORRY, THAT WAS IT, THAT WAS ALL YOU WERE GOING TO COMMIT TO WAS 30 YEARS.

THE LOAN WOULD HAVE BEEN DUE AT THAT POINT.

IF YOU WERE ABLE TO COMMIT TO ADDITIONAL TIME.

WE DEVISE.

I GUESS IT WASN'T THE SIMPLEST WAY TO DO IT, BUT IT WAS FOR YOUR LOAN WOULD BE FORGIVEN ON A PRO RATA BASIS FOR EACH YEAR AFTER THAT 30 YEAR TERM. UNTIL YOU GET ALL THE WAY TO THE 50 YEARS, AT THAT POINT, IT WOULD BE FULLY FORGIVABLE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY? IT DOES. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

THANK YOU MAYOR. SO WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOUSING TONIGHT, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF WINDS LATELY.

AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK GOING ALONG WITH US ON THE JOURNEY OF TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

AND THIS IS VERY EXCITING.

IT WILL CHANGE THE FACE OF THIS AREA, IT'S KIND OF DOWNTOWN AND I DRIVE BY IT EVERY DAY AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

BUT WE ARE ADDRESSING OUR HOUSING CRISIS WITH THIS, AND IT'S NOT THE FIRST THAT WE'VE HEARD OF IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK ON IT.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES. OH, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

CAN CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME OR.

I KNOW YOU KIND OF SAID IT, BUT I GUESS I MISSED IT.

SO AT WHAT POINT WOULD A PROJECT NOT BE ELIGIBLE?

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AND SO IS THAT WHERE YOU ARE.

SO ANY PROJECT THAT A YEAR AND A HALF OUT, TWO YEARS OUT, THREE YEARS OUT, WHAT'S THE IT'S.

WELL, IT'S HARD TO ASSIGN A TIMELINE TO IT, BUT BUT YES, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE DOOR OPEN TO PROJECTS THAT ARE BEGINNING UP INTO THEY'RE ABOUT READY TO GO VERTICAL.

AND THE, THE THING IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WITH THE HOUSING MARKET GOING SO CRAZY AND LABOR SHORTAGES AND, YOU KNOW, MATERIAL COST INCREASES WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF PROJECTS JUST STALL WHERE THEY WENT THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, A REZONING OR A LIKE A LENGTHY PROCESS WITH THE CITY.

AND THEY GOT REAL FAR, BUT THEY JUST HAD NOT, HAVE NOT BEEN BUILT.

AND WE SEE THAT.

AND SO WE KNOW THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN THE CONDITIONS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT PEOPLE HAVE KIND OF WAITED WAITED TO GO TO GO VERTICAL.

SO JUST KNOWING THAT INFORMATION WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT.

SURE ANYBODY FROM THE BEGINNING UP UNTIL THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE READY TO, TO CONSTRUCT COULD APPLY.

DOES THAT. YET THAT ANSWERS.

BUT NOW I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

SO THEN IF A IF IF A PROJECT IS IN THAT PLANNING STAGE AND THEN THEY GET TO A POINT AND THEY'RE LIKE MAYBE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET THIS DONE.

AND THEN ANOTHER PROJECT COMES UP THAT IS ABLE TO MOVE ALONG.

SO DO WE JUST KIND OF KEEP OUR MONEY IN A HOLDING SPACE UNTIL THAT OTHER PROJECT THAT WE INITIALLY FUNDED IS READY, YOU KNOW, JUST CAN CAN GET IT DONE AND THEN THE ONE THAT IS MOVING ALONG.

STEADILY. I TOUGH.

I THINK I KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT I THINK WE WERE WILLING TO JUST PROVIDE THE LOAN.

AND IF AT THE POINT IN TIME THAT IT WAS THAT WE GOT TO IT AND IT WAS CREATED WHEREVER THEY WERE AT, AND IF THE UNITS DO NOT, I THINK THAT WOULD JUST BE CONTINGENCIES WITHIN THE LOAN DOCS, WHICH WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO.

BUT I BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'D HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF LANGUAGE WRITTEN INTO THE LOAN DOCS ABOUT IF YOU DO NOT DELIVER ON THESE UNITS WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, THE LOAN WOULD BE DUE.

YEAH. BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING OUR MONEY TIED UP FOR YEARS WHEN ANOTHER PROJECT COULD BE MOVING ALONG.

FOR WHATEVER REASON.

I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE REASONS MIGHT BE, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BACKGROUND TO DO THAT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE THOSE CONTINGENCIES IN PLACE THAT WE CAN KEEP MOVING.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? NO. YES IT DOES.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL HOUSING DIRECTOR JEN HAS DONE A FABULOUS JOB IN WORKING WITHIN PARAMETERS THAT ARE BRAND NEW TO ALL OF US.

AND SO I WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE HER IN WITHIN THE LOAN DOCUMENTS.

THERE WILL BE CONTINGENCIES FOR FOR PERFORMANCE.

DON'T LEAVE. YOU'RE NOT DONE.

SHE I'M LIKE YOU ARE NOT.

NO, NO, DON'T RUN AWAY.

THEY'LL HAVE TO BE CONTINGENCIES FOR PERFORMANCE.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE'VE DONE AWARDS TO LIGHT TECH PROJECTS THAT ARE APPLYING FOR AWARDS, WE TYPICALLY GIVE THEM A 2 OR 3 YEAR WINDOW TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO LAND THOSE CREDITS IN THAT TIME PERIOD, THEN THE FUNDS WOULD BE FREED UP TO GO TO SOMEONE ELSE WORKING IN THE SAME ARENA.

SO YES, A CONTINGENCY ON PERFORMANCE FOR BUILDING AND ALSO A CONTINGENCY ON AWARD OVERALL.

YOU'RE WELCOME. I DIDN'T MEAN TO SCARE YOU AWAY FROM THE PODIUM.

I DIDN'T WANT TO BE STANDING AWKWARDLY FOR SEVEN MINUTES JUST RIGHT HERE.

SO ANYWAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE TWO RENTAL INCENTIVE BOND PROGRAM AWARDS TOTALING $3.33 MILLION FOR 139 AFFORDABLE RENTAL UNITS, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE RANKING COMMITTEE.

I'LL SECOND. AND THEN JUST TO OH YES YES YES YES.

OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND.

OH, THAT WAS A SECOND DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. STEVE.

THANK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

SEE AT THE GROUNDBREAKING.

OKAY, NOW WE ARE DOWN TO CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-12.

[C. Consideration and Approval of Resolution No. 2024-12: A Resolution of the Flagstaff City Council, authorizing a Ground Lease and Master Development Services Agreement with Genterra Enterprises, LLC for the lease and development of approximately 31.468 acres of land located at 456 W. John Wesley Powell Boulevard near the Flagstaff Pulliam Airport; and establishing an effective date. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Read Resolution No. 2024-12 by title only City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2024-12 by title only (if approved above) Adopt Resolution No. 2024-12]

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SO THIS ITEM IS RELATED TO AN AIRPORT PARCEL AND IT'S A GROUND LEASE AND DEVELOPMENT.

TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT, YOU CAN SEE HERE THE PARCEL OUTLINED IN ORANGE.

YOU CAN SEE I 17 IDENTIFIED.

THAT IS THE INTERCHANGE WITH FORT TUTHILL AND COCONINO COUNTY AND THE AIRPORT JUST TO THE SOUTH EAST OF IT.

AND SO ANY QUESTIONS ON WHERE THE PARCEL IS? EXCELLENT. A LITTLE BIT OF DATA ABOUT THE PARCEL ITSELF.

CROSS STREETS ARE AT THAT PODIUM DRIVE AND J.W.P.

JOHN WESLEY POWELL, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T SPEAK IN ACRONYM AND APPROXIMATELY 31.5 ACRES.

IT IS ZONED CURRENTLY HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL WHICH IS INTENDED TO STAY, AND IT WAS RELEASED BY THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION IN 1988 TO THE CITY FOR THE PURPOSES OF AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT ITEM IN RELATION TO HOW IT'S USED.

WE DO HAVE A LONG TERM AND ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, AND WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM SIGNIFICANTLY REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, PARTLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITHIN THEIR REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO TO GUARANTEE TO THEM THAT THE USE THAT THEY RELEASED IT TO US FOR IS GOING TO BE WHAT WE USE IT FOR. SO WE DID A SITE USE ASSESSMENT AND CONCEPT PLAN SOME YEARS AGO.

WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH AIRPORT CONSULTANTS TO LOOK AT THE PARCEL AND TRY TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE BEST USE WOULD BE FOR ACTIVATION OF THE AIRPORT AND THE CREATION OF JOBS.

WE DID DETERMINE THROUGH THE FAA THAT NO RESIDENTIAL IS ALLOWED IN THE AREA THAT'S COMMON AROUND AIRPORTS.

WE THEN USED THAT SITE ASSESSMENT AND SOME OF THE PARAMETERS TO TALK TO COUNCIL AT THE TIME AND WENT FORWARD WITH A STATEMENT OF REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

THE MAIN GOALS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL WERE AIRPORT REVENUE AND ACTIVATION AND JOBS.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AT THE END OF THE ROCK COUNCIL APPROVED THE SELECTION OF JENTERA AND WE BEGAN OUR NEGOTIATIONS THAT HAVE CULMINATED IN THE ACTION BEING ASKED FOR THIS EVENING. THIS IS JUST A REFERENCE TO THE PAST.

THIS IS NOT ACTUALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN PER SE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS WERE PROVIDED WITH A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE PARCEL CAN BE USED.

THE FOCUS OF IT REALLY IS MORE ON FLEXING INDUSTRIES, MEDICAL OFFICE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE GO.

SO WITHIN THE AGREEMENT ITSELF IS A 4040 YEAR TERM WITH AN OPTION TO RENEW FOR TWO ADDITIONAL 25 YEAR TERMS. THE LESSEE WILL PAY FAIR RENTAL VALUE FOR THE LEASE TERM.

AND THE WAY WE DETERMINE THAT IS THROUGH AN APPRAISAL, BUT WITH A BUILT IN ESCALATION.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS A PROCESS FOR FURTHER APPRAISALS.

IF WE FEEL IF EITHER SIDE FEELS THAT THE MARKET HAS CHANGED AND THAT THE ESCALATION HASN'T REFLECTED MARKET CHANGES, WE CAN DO AN APPRAISAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BACK ON TRACK AND RECEIVING THAT FAIR RENTAL VALUE.

THE FAIR RENTAL VALUE, BASED ON AN APPRAISAL AT THE OUTSET, IS $527,500.

AND THAT ESCALATION I MENTIONED EARLIER IS A RENT INCREASE OF 2% ANNUALLY.

SOME OF THE KEY TERMS ALSO INCLUDE THAT THE RENT IS ACTUALLY DEFERRED FOR YEARS ONE THROUGH FOUR.

THIS IS TO BEFORE THEY'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.

HELPED TO NOT STRESS IT OUT TOO MUCH, BUT IT IS.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT FORGIVEN.

IT IS DEFERRED AND THEREFORE THAT RENT WILL BE RECAPTURED.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WITH A 15 YEAR AMORTIZATION AT 2.65% INTEREST.

AND WE CAME UP WITH THAT INTEREST RATE BASED ON HISTORICAL EARNINGS OF CITY RESERVES, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS STILL GETTING BASICALLY WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN.

RENT IS IS ALSO VARIABLE.

AGAIN, AS A AS AN EFFORT TO DE-STRESS THE PROJECT BEFORE IT GETS TO A PLACE WHERE IT'S ABLE TO GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUE.

AND SO THAT RENT IS VARIABLE FOR YEARS ONE THROUGH NINE.

AND THEN THE RECAPTURE OF THAT VARIABILITY IS IN YEARS TEN THROUGH 17.

BUT AGAIN, EVERY DOLLAR COMES BACK TO THE CITY OVER THE TIME OF THOSE FIRST 20 YEARS.

THE LESSEE IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE ENDEAVOR.

AND SO THAT IS PART OF WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT WAS NOT STRESSED, AND IS ALSO REQUIRED WITHIN THE LEASE TO COMPLETE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR IT WITHIN 30

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AS WE SAID, SPEAKING TO USES, WE DIDN'T WANT TO BOX IN TOO MUCH BECAUSE PART OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FROM OUR PARTNER IN JENTERA, THE LESSEE, IS THAT THEY DO A MARKET ASSESSMENT AND WE DETERMINE WHAT THE RIGHT USES ARE THERE, WHAT SOME OF THE BEST USES ARE THERE.

BUT WE REALLY WERE FOCUSED ON WHAT WE CALL PRIMARY SECTOR JOBS, IF YOU WILL, JOBS THAT ARE NOT FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON RETAIL BUT BUT MAY PROVIDE A MORE DIVERSE AND RESILIENT PARTS OF THE ECONOMY.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE DID PUT IN A PROVISION THAT NO MORE THAN 50% OF THE PROPERTY MAY BE USED FOR SHORT TERM LODGING, SUCH AS A HOTEL, RETAIL OR RESTAURANT USES.

THE REMAINDER OF THE PARCEL WILL BE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, MANUFACTURING, LOGISTICS OR OTHER USES OF THAT NATURE.

THE BUILDINGS WILL MEET OR EXCEED SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS ADOPTED BY THE CITY, CONSTRUCTED BY.

AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE PRIVATELY OWNED, SO THEY WILL BE SUBJECT TO TAX.

BUT AT THE END OF THE LEASE, ALL THOSE BUILDINGS REVERT TO OWNERSHIP BY THE CITY.

JINTARA IS HERE.

TIM KINI FROM JINTARA IS HERE AS HIS RICH BONE, SO THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WE APPRECIATE THEIR PARTICIPATION.

WE ALSO, AS MENTIONED, WE HAVE EVERYBODY FROM YOUR FINANCE DIRECTOR TO YOUR PLANNING DIRECTOR TO.

STACEY. YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO NAME THEM ALL BECAUSE I'LL FORGET SOMEBODY.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY SMART PEOPLE HERE WHO WORKED HARD ON THIS.

AND SO QUESTIONS THAT THAT I MIGHT STUMBLE OVER ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE.

CAN I OFFER ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? AND THIS.

THE TOPIC HAS BEEN A SUBJECT OF COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR AT LEAST THE PAST FOUR YEARS.

3 OR 4 YEARS.

THE HISTORY OF THE PARCEL GOES.

I COULD GET INTO A LONG DISSERTATION.

NO, I DON'T WANT THAT.

BUT WE'LL AVOID WE'LL AVOID THAT.

BUT YES, THIS PARTICULAR TRANSACTION HAS THE NEGOTIATIONS HAVE LASTED FOR FOR SOME YEARS.

THAT ROCK I BELIEVE WAS ISSUED IN 2020.

OKAY. AND YES, YOU'VE HEARD YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT IT OVER THE YEARS.

CITY MANAGER THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANKS TO DAVE MCINTYRE AND THANKS TO THE ENTIRE TEAM.

AND THERE ARE MANY NAMES ON THAT TEAM, AND MOST OF THEM ARE IN THE ROOM TONIGHT.

THERE'S BEEN CONSIDERABLE EFFORT AT THE STAFF LEVEL.

TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF COUNCIL THIS EVENING.

IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED OVER THE YEARS.

I WANT TO, IN ADDITION TO OFFERING MY THANKS, WHICH ARE GENUINELY STATED, THIS IS A BIG DEAL.

THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF A LOT OF WORK.

AND THIS PARCEL HAS BEEN VACANT, OF COURSE, FOR DECADES.

UNDER CITY OWNERSHIP HAS BEEN VACANT, OF COURSE, FOREVER.

BUT IT'S BEEN SUITABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR SOME TIME.

AND SO THAT JUST AGAIN UNDERSCORES THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF THIS EVENING AND WHAT HAPPENS GOING FORWARD.

THE REASON IT'S SO SIGNIFICANT IS THIS, OF COURSE, WAS PURSUANT TO THE FAA RELEASED TO THE CITY FOR AIRPORT PURPOSES. OUR AIRPORT OPERATES AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND.

AND I CAN SHARE WITH YOU, HAVING SPENT A LOT OF TIME BUDGETING OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS IS CRITICAL THAT WE FIND A REVENUE STREAM FOR OUR AIRPORT.

YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE MANAGEMENT HERE.

WE HAVE THE GREATEST MANAGEMENT IN PLACE THAT TO TAKE OUR AIRPORT FORWARD.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES HOPEFULLY A NEW AIRLINES AT SOME POINT, A NEW ROUTES YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL GET THINGS REVVED BACK UP AT THE AIRPORT TO, TO SEE IT START GENERATING THE REVENUES THAT IT DID PRE-COVID.

THIS. AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S YEARS AWAY FROM SEEING REVENUE REALIZATION THROUGH THE RENTS THAT DAVE JUST WALKED YOU THROUGH IS GOING TO BE MONUMENTAL FOR HELPING OUR AIRPORT TO SUSTAIN ITS ENTERPRISE STATUS.

THIS WILL BE A BIG REVENUE GENERATOR OVER TIME, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT RIGHT AWAY.

BUT THE APPROVAL TONIGHT AND AND GETTING THIS NOW BUTTONED UP AND PROCEEDING WITH THE EVENTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARCEL IS GOING TO DO A LOT FOR OUR AIRPORT AND SPECIFICALLY FOR REVENUE SUSTAINED REVENUES OVER TIME.

I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY A PREVIOUS COUNCIL THAT MADE THIS DECISION.

BUT THE IDEA WAS TO LEASE IT RATHER THAN TO SELL IT.

THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD GENERATE ONE TIME FUNDS, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A BIG SHOT IN THE ARM FOR AIRPORT REVENUES.

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SO I'LL STOP IT THERE.

I REALLY AM THANKFUL TO THE TEAM.

I'M THANKFUL TO TIM KINNEY AND HIS TEAM FOR BEING SUCH GOOD PARTNERS IN THIS PROJECT AND REALLY EXCITED FOR WHAT LIES AHEAD.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MATHEWS. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. TIM AND RICH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

MY GOSH, I DON'T THINK I'LL EVER GET USED TO GOVERNMENT WORK.

IT TAKES FOREVER.

WELCOME BACK. JACK.

HE CAME HERE TO CELEBRATE.

HE'S BEEN AT IT FROM THE BEGINNING, I THINK.

AND JUST JUST LOOKING AT ALL THE STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAVE HAD A HAND IN THIS YOU KNOW, TAKING UP TWO ROLES AND JUST ENDLESS HOURS OF WORK AND NEGOTIATIONS AND STUFF.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE STAFF THAT HAVE PUT SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT INTO IT.

AND I'M EXCITED THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, SO HOPEFULLY IT GOES WELL.

I'M EXCITED TO SEE WE NEED THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IN THIS INDUSTRY IN OUR TOWN TO HELP CREATE BETTER JOBS AND REALLY SUPPORT OUR ECONOMY.

GOOD PAYING JOBS IS ANOTHER ANSWER TO OUR HOUSING ISSUE.

AND SO IT ALL GOES FULL CIRCLE.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STICKING WITH US AND GETTING THIS DONE I APPRECIATE IT.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE HAS A COMMENT AND THEN A MOTION.

SO I WANT TO TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET I'LL MAKE THIS SHORT AND SWEET.

IT'S MY BIRTHDAY. I'M ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

I AM EXCITED THAT THIS IS BEFORE US TONIGHT, AND I REMEMBER IT WAS ONE OF MY VERY FIRST COUNCIL MEETINGS WHEN I GOT ELECTED, AND I PUSHED FOR HOUSING AROUND IN THIS PARCEL AREA, AND I REMEMBER EVERYONE WAS LIKE, NO, DON'T SAY IT.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW BECAUSE I WAS SO NEW.

SO THAT'S HOW LONG WE HAVE BEEN REALLY IN DEPTH TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND IT'S EXCITING TO SEE IT'S FINALLY HERE.

AND I DO BELIEVE IT WILL ALSO CHANGE FLAGSTAFF, AND IT WILL BRING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BETTER PAYING JOBS AND FOR PEOPLE TO STAY AND WORK AND LIVE AND PLAY HERE. SO THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STICKING WITH THIS AND KEEPING IT GOING.

AND THAT IS TO EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.

IT IS TO TO MIRROR THE CITY MANAGER'S WORDS.

MONUMENTAL. TO SEE US AT THIS POINT.

SO VERY GRATEFUL.

AND IT'S MY HONOR TO MOVE THAT WE READ RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 4-12 BY TITLE ONLY.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? CITY CLERK.

A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZING A GROUND LEASE AND MASTER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH JENTERA ENTERPRISES, LLC FOR THE LEASE AND DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 31.468 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 456 WEST JOHN WESLEY POWELL BOULEVARD NEAR THE FLAGSTAFF PULLIAM AIRPORT AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

LET'S GET SERIOUS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT? MAYOR, I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-12 SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

THANKS FOR ACKNOWLEDGING JACK FISHER AS WELL.

HE HAS LEFT US BEFORE IT GOT DONE, BUT HE DID A LOT OF THE WORK AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

YEAH.

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ALL RIGHT. WE ARE MOVING ON.

SO THOSE WHO ARE NOT MOVING ON WITH US MAY LEAVE THE CHAMBERS AND CONTINUE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE. WE ARE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 13, FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS.

[13. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS After discussion and upon agreement by three members of the Council, an item will be moved to a regularly-scheduled Council meeting.]

THERE ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS EXPRESSED HERE TONIGHT.

AND I DON'T ALLOW SHOWING OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THINGS THAT ARE SAID AT THE DAIS.

I WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO EXPRESS WHAT THEY WANT TO EXPRESS TO THE COUNCIL.

AND AGAIN, THIS ISN'T TO MAKE A DECISION FOR THE COUNCIL TO DO A RESOLUTION. THIS IS JUST LOOKING FOR THREE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO ANOTHER REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING.

AND. THE.

THE INDIVIDUAL WHO TURNED IN THE PETITION DIDN'T FILE A CARD, SO I DIDN'T.

BUT JOE, YOU DID.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE PETITION? MY THREE MINUTES. YES, BUT BUT I WILL ALSO GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES AS A COMMENTER ON THE MATTER, BUT YOU CAN INTRODUCE THE PETITION TO THE GROUP.

OKAY. WELL, THE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS JOE BADER.

I LIVE IN FLAGSTAFF.

RECENTLY WE SUBMITTED A TO THE CITY CLERK CITIZEN'S PETITION WITH 73 SIGNATURES ASKING YOU TO PASS A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR A PERMANENT CEASE FIRE AND A JUST RESOLUTION OF THE ISRAELI PALESTINIAN CONFLICT, OF WHICH WE'RE ALL AWARE OF.

NOW, AN ADDITIONAL FYI, AN ADDITIONAL 220.

SIX RESIDENTS SIGNED AN ONLINE PETITION WITH THE SAME RESOLUTION.

OKAY, SO THAT'S JUST ABOUT 300 PEOPLE.

THAT'S 120 MORE THAN THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY OF THIS ROOM.

TO RECAP WHAT WE ALL KNOW TODAY IS OVER 32,000 PALESTINIAN RESIDENTS OF GAZA HAVE BEEN KILLED.

OVER 70,000 HAVE BEEN WOUNDED.

AT LEAST 12,300 CHILDREN HAVE BEEN KILLED.

THE UN REPORTS THAT MORE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN KILLED IN GAZA IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS THAN HAVE BEEN KILLED GLOBALLY, BETWEEN 2019 AND 2022.

FAMINE STALKS THE GAZA STRIP NOW, AND SEVERAL DOZEN CHILDREN HAVE ALREADY STARVED TO DEATH.

THIS WILL ONLY GET WORSE UNLESS THE WAR ON GAZA STOPS IMMEDIATELY.

GIVEN THAT OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING USED TO PROVIDE THE WEAPONS ISRAEL IS USING TO COMMIT WHAT MANY FEEL IS GENOCIDE, THIS IS AN URGENT MORAL ISSUE THAT WE ALL NEED TO TAKE A STAND ON.

IF YOU VOTE TO PLACE THIS ON YOUR AGENDA FOR A FULL DISCUSSION AND ADOPT THE CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION, YOU WILL BE IN GOOD COMPANY.

IN ADDITION TO THE WISHES OF YOUR 300 FLAGSTAFF CONSTITUENTS, AT LEAST 70 CITIES AROUND THE NATION, INCLUDING SOUTH TUCSON, ARIZONA, HAVE ADOPTED VARIOUS CEASEFIRE RESOLUTIONS.

TWO THIRDS OF AMERICAN VOTERS ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM SUPPORT A PERMANENT CEASEFIRE.

A MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENTS ELECTED BODIES AT ALL LEVELS HAVE TAKEN STANDS ON NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL ISSUES IN THE PAST, FROM VIETNAM TO ENDING APARTHEID IN SOUTH AFRICA TO IMMIGRATION RIGHTS, CLIMATE JUSTICE, ETC.

AND MANY OTHER ON MANY ISSUES.

AND YOU CAN DO THE SAME TONIGHT BY TAKING A STAND IN SUPPORT OF A CEASEFIRE IN GAZA, OR TAKING A STAND IN SUPPORT OF MOVING IT TO AN AGENDA IN THE FUTURE WHERE YOU DISCUSS THIS MATTER.

THE MISERY BEING INFLICTED, INFLICTED ON GAZA NOW AND ITS IMPACT ON THE PEOPLE IN THE REGION AND IN OUR OWN COUNTRY, IS CITY BUSINESS.

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AND THERE HAS BEEN A RISE IN ISLAMOPHOBIA, ANTI-ARAB SENTIMENT AND ANTI-SEMITISM NATIONALLY AS A RESULT OF THIS WAR, WHICH CAN IMPACT US HERE IN FLAGSTAFF AS WELL, PUTTING THIS ON YOUR REGULAR AGENDA AND THEN VOTING TO ADOPT THE CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION THAT WILL BE SENT TO OUR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES AND TO THE PRESIDENT, CAN HELP PROVIDE POLITICAL PRESSURE THAT COULD STOP THE KILLING AND MOVE TOWARD A JUST RESOLUTION OF THE PALESTINIAN-ISRAELI CONFLICT.

I KNOW YOU CAN DO THIS.

WE ARE COUNTING ON YOU TO STAND UP AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

JANET WESSELS.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

I OPPOSE THE PETITION TO PASS A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR AN IMMEDIATE DE-ESCALATION AND PERMANENT CEASE FIRE IN ISRAEL AND GAZA.

I RETIRED IN 2022 AS A US NAVY CAPTAIN AFTER 28 YEARS OF MILITARY SERVICE, INCLUDING 18 MONTHS IN IRAQ AS A CIVIL AFFAIRS OFFICER.

AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH TERRORISM AND WAR.

I AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT THAT WAR IS HELL.

OCTOBER 7TH, 23 SHOWED US WHY ISRAEL HAS SUCH STRONG SECURITY MEASURES IN PLACE.

THEY WALLED OFF THEIR BORDER WITH GAZA.

THAT IS THEIR PREROGATIVE AS A SOVEREIGN NATION.

EGYPT HAS ALSO CLOSED THE BORDER TO GAZA.

FOR A TWO STATE SOLUTION TO WORK, YOU NEED TO HAVE TWO BODIES WHO WANT A TWO STATE SOLUTION.

HAMAS DOES NOT WANT ISRAEL TO EXIST.

FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA IS CALLING FOR GENOCIDE FOR THE STATE OF ISRAEL TO CEASE EXISTING.

MANY PRO-PALESTINIAN GROUPS ARE CHANTING FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA.

WHY WOULD ISRAEL CEASE FIRE AGAINST A GROUP WHO WANTS TO ANNIHILATE THEM? THERE IS NO NEGOTIATING PEACE WITH SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME GOALS.

THE PALESTINIAN POSITION, NOT HAMAS, HAS BEEN THE THREE NO'S.

NO PEACE, NO RECOGNITION OF ISRAEL, NO NEGOTIATING.

EVERY TIME THROUGHOUT HISTORY THERE HAS BEEN A FORMAL OR INFORMAL PEACE AGREEMENT.

THE VARIOUS ARAB TERROR GROUPS HAVE ATTACKED ISRAEL.

THEY HAVE NOT ABIDED BY THE PEACE AGREEMENT.

ON OCTOBER 7TH, 23 CIVILIANS WERE BRUTALLY ATTACKED IN GAZA.

IF CIVILIANS DIE IN WAR, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A WAR CRIME.

IT IS BASED ON INTENT.

ISRAEL HAS GIVEN NOTICE TO CIVILIANS TO LEAVE THE AREA OR GET TO A KNOWN SHELTER BEFORE ATTACKING, SO THAT MEANS THERE IS NO INTENT TO HARM CIVILIANS.

HAMAS INTENDED TO MURDER CIVILIANS AND HAS USED CIVILIANS AS HUMAN SHIELDS AND PLACED THERE ROCKET LAUNCHING SITES AND TERRORIST HIDING LOCATIONS AND HOSPITALS AND SCHOOLS, WHICH IS A WAR CRIME.

NANCY PELOSI SAID YEARS AGO THAT ROCKETS HAVE A RETURN ADDRESS.

THEY ARE ASKING TO HAVE THEIR POINT OF ORIGIN SITE BOMBED IN RESPONSE, AND THEN THEY USE THAT AS PROPAGANDA TO FUEL THE CITIZENRY THAT THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCES ARE COMMITTING WAR CRIMES BY ATTACKING CIVILIANS.

WE CAN ASK WHY THERE HAS BEEN NOT HAVE NOT BEEN A UNIVERSAL CALL FOR THE RELEASE OF ALL HOSTAGES.

SURELY EVEN ISLAMIC NATIONS, LET ALONE THE REST OF THE WORLD, SHOULD AGREE ON THIS, IN CONTRAST WITH THE INCESSANT CALLS FOR A CEASE FIRE, THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT ISRAEL HAS DONE EVERYTHING PERFECTLY IN THIS WAR, OR THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE GRIEVED OVER THE TERRIBLE LOSS OF PALESTINIAN LIFE, EVEN IF THE FIGURES OF THE HAMAS RUN GAZA HEALTH MINISTRY ARE EXAGGERATED AND FAILED TO DISTINGUISH THE KILLING OF TERRORISTS FROM THE DEATH OF CIVILIANS, THE LOSSES ARE STILL HIGH.

THE SUFFERING OF THE GAZAN PEOPLE ACUTE AND THE NEEDS GROWING GREATER BY THE DAY.

THIS IS TERRIBLE AND REAL NEWS, BUT LET US DISTINGUISH THE LIES FROM THE TRUTH.

HOWEVER OLD THAT EXERCISE BECOMES, TELLING THE TRUTH IS ONE WEAPON THAT WE CAN NEVER SURRENDER.

YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE ELECTED TO GOVERN FLAGSTAFF NOT SPEND TIME ON RESOLUTIONS ON AFFAIRS THAT ARE NOT CONCERNING THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, LET ALONE THE STATE OF ARIZONA, LET ALONE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

I DO NOT SUPPORT THE CALLS FOR ISRAEL TO CEASE FIRE.

HOWEVER, EVEN IF I DID, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THIS COUNCIL MAKING A RESOLUTION ON A MATTER OUTSIDE OF FLAGSTAFF'S CONTROL.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE SANDRA LUBARSKY AND AND DOCTOR EMILY DAVALOS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS SANDRA LUBARSKY AND I AM HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU TO PLACE THE RESOLUTION FOR A PERMANENT CEASE FIRE BETWEEN ISRAEL AND GAZA ON A FUTURE COUNCIL AGENDA. WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS RESOLUTION WILL NOT IN ITSELF CHANGE THE COURSE OF HISTORY.

FEW THINGS BY THEMSELVES DO, BUT IT IS A MISTAKE TO THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IN AND OF ITSELF DOESN'T TURN THE TIDE, IT ISN'T WORTH DOING.

WHAT IS WORTH DOING IS LIVING WITH COURAGE AND INTEGRITY AND STANDING AS A COMMUNITY AGAINST APPALLING VIOLENCE AND UNIMAGINABLE

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MONTH AFTER MONTH, WE HAVE WATCHED THE CATASTROPHE TAKE PLACE THAT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS NEARLY UNPRECEDENTED IN MODERN HISTORY.

AS A JEW, I HAVE BEEN GRIEVING THE BETRAYAL OF MY JEWISH VALUES BY THE ACTIONS OF THE NATION OF ISRAEL.

AS AN AMERICAN, I AM OUTRAGED BY THE BILLIONS OF AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS FLOWING TO THE ISRAELI MILITARY.

SINCE OCTOBER, THE US HAS APPROVED MORE THAN 100 SEPARATE WEAPONS SALES TO ISRAEL, WITH NO MEASURES LIMITING THE BEHAVIOR OF THE NETANYAHU GOVERNMENT. THIS HORROR COULD END IF OUR COUNTRY STOPPED FUNDING IT.

THERE IS REAL ANTISEMITISM IN THIS COUNTRY AND THE WORLD, AND I ASK EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT TO STAND AGAINST IT.

BUT OPPOSING THE EXTREMIST ISRAELI GOVERNMENT IS NOT ANTISEMITIC, AND CALLING FOR AN END TO PALESTINIAN SUFFERING IS NOT ANTI-SEMITIC. SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD ME TALK BEFORE ABOUT THE SCENE FROM THE FILM JOJO RABBIT.

I BRING IT UP AGAIN BECAUSE OF ITS RELEVANCE TONIGHT.

TEN YEAR OLD JOJO IS WITH HIS MOTHER IN THE MARKET SQUARE WHEN HE LOOKS UP AND SEES A FAMILY THAT HAS BEEN HUNG.

IT WAS THE NAZI PUNISHMENT FOR FOR PROTECTING JEWS.

IN DISMAY AND BEWILDERMENT, HE ASKS HIS MOTHER, WHAT DID THEY DO? SHE RESPONDS, THEY DID WHAT THEY COULD.

THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DO.

NOT TO BE BYSTANDERS.

NOT TO ALLOW THIS MASS DESTRUCTION TO GO ON WITHOUT OBJECTION, NOT TO REMAIN SILENT, BUT TO DO WHAT YOU, AS OUR CITY REPRESENTATIVES, CAN DO TO END THE HUMANITARIAN NIGHTMARE THAT IS TAKING PLACE IN GAZA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR EMILY DAVALOS AND THEN DOCTOR ABDEL AZIZ BAKO.

I AM SPEAKING AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND ONLY REPRESENT MYSELF.

THE GENOCIDE IN PALESTINE IS AN URGENT MORAL ISSUE AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION.

ZIONISM IS NOT A RELIGION.

THIS IS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH INTERNATIONAL LAW.

WHY SHOULD WE FOLLOW INTERNATIONAL LAW AND BE CONCERNED ABOUT IT IN FLAGSTAFF YOU MIGHT ASK, I QUOTE, INTERNATIONAL LAW IS CENTRAL TO PROMOTING ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS TO ADVANCING INTERNATIONAL PEACE AND SECURITY.

UNDER PROTOCOL ONE OF THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS, BASED ON THE PRINCIPLE OF SELF-DETERMINATION FOR ALL PEOPLES, PEOPLES UNDER FOREIGN AND COLONIAL RULE, PALESTINIANS HAVE A RIGHT TO ARMED RESISTANCE.

THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER COLONIAL RULE OF ISRAEL SINCE AT LEAST THE NAKBA OF 1948.

UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW, OCCUPYING FORCES HAVE NO RIGHT TO SELF DEFENSE.

THERE IS A LEGAL BASIS FOR WHAT TOOK PLACE ON OCTOBER 7TH AT THE UN.

153 COUNTRIES VOTED IN FAVOR OF A RESOLUTION DEMANDING AN IMMEDIATE HUMANITARIAN CEASEFIRE IN GAZA.

TEN COUNTRIES VOTED AGAINST, WHILE 23 ABSTAINED.

80% OF COUNTRIES VOTED IN FAVOR.

SOUTH AFRICA SUBMITTED AN 84 PAGE FILING TO THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE, DOCUMENTING THE ACTS OF ISRAEL AS GENOCIDAL IN CHARACTER AS THEY ARE COMMITTED WITH THE REQUISITE SPECIFIC INTENT TO DESTROY PALESTINIANS IN GAZA AS PART OF THE BROADER PALESTINIAN NATIONAL, RACIAL AND ETHNIC GROUP, THE UNITED NATIONS TOP COURT ORDERED ISRAEL TO DO ALL IT CAN TO PREVENT DEATH, DESTRUCTION AND ANY ACTS OF GENOCIDE IN GAZA.

THE SIX MEASURES IN THE RULING WERE APPROVED BY MARGINS OF 15 TO 2 AND 16 TO 1, WITH EVEN ISRAEL'S REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COURT JOINING THE MAJORITY ON TWO OF THE QUESTIONS.

THE PRESIDENT OF THE COURT STATED, THE COURT IS ACUTELY AWARE OF THE EXTENT OF THE HUMAN TRAGEDY THAT IS UNFOLDING IN THE REGION, AND IS DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONTINUING LOSS OF LIFE AND HUMAN SUFFERING.

THE COURT RULED THAT ISRAEL MUST DO ALL IT CAN TO PREVENT GENOCIDE, INCLUDING REFRAINING FROM HARMING OR KILLING PALESTINIANS.

IT ALSO RULED THAT ISRAEL MUST URGENTLY, URGENTLY GET BASIC AID TO GAZA AND THAT THE COUNTRY SHOULD PUNISH ANY INCITEMENT TO GENOCIDE, AMONG OTHER MEASURES.

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL STATED THE DECISION IS AN AUTHORITATIVE REMINDER OF THE CRUCIAL ROLE OF INTERNATIONAL LAW IN PREVENTING GENOCIDE AND PROTECTING ALL VICTIMS OF ATROCITY CRIMES. IT SENDS A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT THE WORLD WILL NOT STAND BY IN SILENCE, AS ISRAEL PURSUES A RUTHLESS MILITARY CAMPAIGN TO DECIMATE THE POPULATION OF THE GAZA STRIP AND UNLEASHED DEATH, HORROR AND SUFFERING AGAINST PALESTINIANS ON AN UNPRECEDENTED SCALE.

ON AN UNPRECEDENTED SCALE, ISRAEL HAS NOT ONLY WILLFULLY FAILED TO PROVIDE GAZANS BASIC NEEDS, BUT IT HAS ALSO BEEN BLOCKING AND IMPEDING THE PASSAGE OF SUFFICIENT AID INTO THE GAZA STRIP.

IN A CLEAR SHOW OF CONTEMPT FOR THE ICJ RULING, AND IN FLAGRANT VIOLATION OF ITS OBLIGATION TO PREVENT GENOCIDE, YOU HAVE A CHOICE AND A CHANCE TO STAND ON THE

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PLEASE APPROVE THIS AGENDA ITEM.

DOCTOR ABDEL AZIZ BAKO AND THEN REVEREND JORGE DORADO.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

GOOD EVENING. MY WIFE SUPPOSED TO BE GIVING THE SPEECH, BUT TODAY I'M GIVING THE SPEECH INSTEAD OF HER.

SHE IS A COMMANDER IN THE NAVY AND SHE SERVED IN HUMAN HEALTH SERVICES.

SO I'M GIVING THE SPEECH ON HER BEHALF.

SHE HER DAD HAS A SURGERY AND SHE HAS TO ATTEND HIS SURGERY.

I'M A RETIRED DOCTOR.

I'M A RESIDENT OF THE STATES SINCE 1940.

SINCE 1980.

I CAME HERE TO THE STATES FROM OVERSEAS.

TO STUDY. GOT MY GRADUATE AND MY PHD.

MY DOCTORATE.

WE ARE BLESSED IN THIS COUNTRY.

AS YOU MENTIONED.

THAT HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHTS.

AND IT'S TRUE. IT'S HUMAN RIGHTS.

CAN SOMEONE OF US.

LOSE HIS HOUSE OR HIS PROPERTY AND LIVE IN A TENT.

UNDER THE RAIN AND THE BAD WEATHER FOR SIX MONTHS.

CAN ANY ONE OF US.

LIVE WITHOUT ELECTRICITY.

CAN ANY ONE OF US LIVE WITHOUT FOOD? WITHOUT MEDICAL ATTENTION? WITH HOSPITALS BEING DESTROYED? MY FAMILY WERE I CAME.

THEY ARE FROM THERE.

THEY LOST. THEY LOST THEIR HOUSE.

AND NOW THEY ARE IN THE TENT.

IS THIS ACCEPTABLE? IS THIS ACCEPTABLE TO ANYONE? BEFORE I CAME HERE.

I REMEMBER I GREW UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHERE WE HAD NEIGHBORS, JEWISH AND CHRISTIANS.

WE LOVE EACH OTHER.

WE HAVE NO HATRED.

THE PALESTINIANS HAD BEEN OCCUPIED 75 YEARS.

AND THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS TO TRAVEL OR FOR EDUCATION.

GAZA. IS ONLY 35 MILES BY 20 MILES WIDE.

AND THERE IS 2.5 MILLION PEOPLE LIVE THERE AND ARE BESIEGED AND THEY'RE BOMBING.

OKAY, SO WHAT'S OUR RIGHT? AS AMERICANS.

WE NEED TO ASK FOR A CEASE FIRE.

AND THE RESOLUTION FOR TWO STATES THEY CAN LIVE IN PEACE THE WAY THAT WE LIVED WITH OUR NEIGHBOR, JEWISH. I'M ASKING THAT KINDLY.

AND ALSO WE NEED TO ALLOW THE HUMANITARIAN AID.

FOOD AND WATER, ELECTRICITY AND MEDICAL ATTENTION NEEDS TO GO THERE.

THAT'S ALL WHAT I'M ASKING.

THANK YOU DOCTOR. THANK YOU, REVEREND JORGE DORADO.

AND THEN FAYEZ.

DALIA. HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL MAIER.

I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE AND SPEAK OUT FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

I AM ORIGINALLY FROM GUANTANAMO, CUBA, AND COMING FROM A LINEAGE OF SEPHARDIC JEWS WHO WERE FORCED TO LEAVE SPAIN UNDER THE PERSECUTION OF THE CATHOLIC KINGS AND QUEENS IN SPAIN.

I'M ALSO HAVE PRESENTLY FAMILY IN ASHDOD, ISRAEL, AND MANY OTHER RELATIVES LIVING IN ISRAEL AS WELL. I AM NOT A PRACTICING YOU.

I AM AN ORDAINED CLERGY OF THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH AND HAVE BEEN SERVING FOR OVER 30 YEARS OF MY LIFE, CURRENTLY UNDER RETIREMENT. THE REASON I'M HERE IS JUST TO, NUMBER ONE, BE ABLE TO EXERCISE THE FREEDOM AND THE

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SOMETHING THAT IS PRECIOUS.

I APPRECIATE THE CIVIL WAY WE EXPRESS OUR DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

AND AGAIN, I AM VERY, VERY GLAD THAT WE ARE WILLING TO DISAGREE WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING OUR PERSONAL SAFETY.

A. AS A SEMINARIAN, I ENGAGE IN SOCIAL ACTIVISM AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH EFFORTS IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO.

AS A PASTOR, I ASK THE BISHOP TO SEND ME TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO TO START WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT WERE VERY UNDER ECONOMICALLY ADVANTAGED.

SO THEY WERE VERY REPRESSED.

A COMMUNITY FULL WITH PROBLEMS WITH GANGS, DRUGS, PROSTITUTION FROM THE AGES OF TEN, ALL THE WAY TO A 20, 21 YEARS OLD IN THE STREETS OF CHICAGO.

WHEN I WAS IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO, I DID CARRY MY LIFE TO SAVING HUMAN BEING, NOT JUST SAVING FOR JESUS.

LIKE THE CLICHE, OH, I WAS SAVED.

NO SAVING HUMAN LIVES FOR REAL BY PROVIDING THE RESOURCES NECESSARY FOR THOSE CHILDREN AND FAMILY TO HAVE A HOME.

FOOD ON THE TABLE AND CLOTHES TO WEAR.

TODAY I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR THAT YOU COUNCIL WERE ENTERTAINING THE POSSIBILITIES OF BUILDING HOUSES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS.

BUILDING SOCIAL SERVICES FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED.

FOR THOSE WHO ARE MARGINALIZED, FOR THOSE WHO ARE SOMEHOW OPPRESSED BY THE ECONOMIC SYSTEM, THAT WE ARE ALL PART OF IT.

I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY THAT.

I'M SORRY, BUT YOUR TIME IS UP.

PLEASE, I IMPLORE YOU.

CONSIDER BRINGING THAT AGENDA INTO THE COUNCIL AND MOVING FORWARD FROM THAT POINT ON.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

FAYEZ, DALIA, AND THEN DAWN KELLER.

GOOD EVENING, YOUR HONORABLE MAYOR AND YOUR RESPECTED COUNCILMEN AND WOMEN.

EXCUSE ME. I HAVE MY VOICE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I DO HEAR ME.

YEAH. WELL HERE.

I'M HERE TO ASK FOR A CEASEFIRE.

AND THE GENOCIDE THAT WE SEE UNFOLDING IN FRONT OF OUR EYES ON A DAILY BASIS.

THIS DISASTER.

IS NOT A NATURAL DISASTER.

IT'S NOT A CALAMITY BY EARTHQUAKE OR TSUNAMI.

IT'S A MAN MADE DISASTER.

WE CAN STOP IT IF WE HAVE THE WILL TO STOP THAT DISASTER.

AND. AS SOME.

OLD PEOPLE WITH VISIONS.

RESPECTFUL. GEORGE WASHINGTON HIMSELF, WHO WARNED US IN HIS LAST SPEECH TO THE CONGRESS NOT TO BE ENTANGLED WITH SOME STATES, ANY STATE, ANY PROBABLY SOME PEOPLE THINKS AT THAT TIME HE WAS THINKING OF FRANCE BECAUSE IT WAS IN OUR SIDE.

AND HERE WE SEE OURSELVES ENTANGLED AGAINST THE WHOLE WORLD FROM A RACIST, FASCIST, NAZIST ZIONIST COUNTRY.

IT IS SO A SHAME FOR THIS BIG COUNTRY EMPIRE WHO CAN GET ANYTHING THAT WANTS, WHETHER THEY HAVE IN MIND WEALTH.

OR TO CONTROL THE WORLD.

THEY CAN HAVE IT IN A PEACEFUL MANNERS.

SINCE THIS COUNTRY IS THE SO-CALLED MELTING POT, EVERYBODY ON THIS SURFACE OF EARTH HAS A STAKE ON THIS COUNTRY AND CONSIDERATE THIS COUNTRY.

SO TO BE ENTANGLED FOR A RACIST, FANATIC ZIONIST PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISREGARD FOR EVERYTHING AND THEY THINK THEMSELVES, THEY ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE, THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW 48 RESOLUTION IN THE UNITED NATIONS.

NONE OF THEM ARE RESPECTED.

AND TO SEE THIS COUNTRY WITH ITS MIGHT AND ITS POWER.

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I THINK IT'S A SHAME.

IT'S TIME FOR US TO STAND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO CRITICIZE OURSELVES BEFORE THE WHOLE WORLD.

IS AGAINST US. AND THERE ARE EXERCISES, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE MALTESE FOREIGN MINISTER, PROBABLY YOU SEE HIM, WHICH IS THE SMALLEST COUNTRY IN EUROPE. TALKING ABOUT BIDEN.

HE SAID THE EMPEROR IS NAKED.

EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE WORLD.

YOU SEE THE DEMONSTRATION TAKING THE STREETS IN EVERY CITY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE RESOLUTION TO A CEASE FIRE NOW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DON KELLER AND THEN ELENA ZAHARIA.

THANK YOU COUNCIL.

I'M HERE AS AN AMERICAN AND A 50 YEAR RESIDENT OF FLAGSTAFF AND IN SUPPORT OF A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION.

WHEN I WAS A YOUNG MAN, I SERVED AS A IN THE PEACE CORPS IN AN IN AN ARAB SPEAKING COUNTRY IN NORTH AFRICA.

A YOUNG PALESTINIAN MAN CALLED EXILED BY THE SIX-DAY WAR OF 1967 SPOKE TO ME ONE DAY AND TOLD ME, YOU ARE TAKING THE LIGHT OF THE SUN FROM MY PEOPLE.

HE WAS SPEAKING OF THE LARGELY UNCRITICAL AND UNCONDITIONED ECONOMIC, MILITARY AND DIPLOMATIC SUPPORT THE US HAS GIVEN ISRAEL.

MASTER GARDENERS KNOW THAT NOTHING WILL GROW WITHOUT SUNLIGHT.

NOTHING WILL THRIVE.

IT IS DISCOURAGING THAT AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, REMEMBERING HIS WORDS, NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

AND NOW THE HORRORS OF OCTOBER 7TH HAVE UNLEASHED AN ORGY OF REVENGE AND COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT IN GAZA OF BIBLICAL INTENSITY.

ETHNIC STARVATION AND DISPLACEMENT HAVE BEEN WEAPONISED AS WEAPONS OF WAR AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS OF GAZA, MANUFACTURED IN FALSE CHARGES OF ANTI-SEMITISM, WEAPONISED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.

WE OFFER A PRAYER AND A DEMAND.

THE KILLING MUST STOP.

31,819 PALESTINIANS KILLED AS OF TODAY AND CLIMBING APPROXIMATELY 8000 MISSING UNDER THE RUBBLE OF DESTROYED BUILDINGS AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

AT LEAST 73,934 WOUNDED.

OF THESE FIGURES, TWO THIRDS ARE WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

THEY WERE THE FUTURE OF THEIR FAMILIES, THE FUTURE OF THEIR PEOPLE, THE LIGHT OF THE SUN TAKEN FROM THEM.

HALF OF THE CHILDREN IN GAZA UNDER THE AGE OF TWO ARE SEVERELY MALNOURISHED.

80% OF THE POPULATION DISPLACED PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES, SCHOOLS AND AID CENTERS DELIBERATELY DESTROYED.

YESTERDAY, ISRAELI FORCES SIEGED A SAFIR HOSPITAL AND ASSASSINATED FAKE MUBU, THE CIVILIAN POLICE DIRECTOR, WHO HAD THE WHO HAD THE DAY BEFORE, ORGANIZED AN ORDERLY AND SUCCESSFUL FOOD DISTRIBUTION.

THIS IS THE WEAPONIZATION OF CHAOS.

IT'S REPORTED THE DAY THAT ISRAEL HAS APPARENTLY STARTED AN OFFENSIVE ON RAFAH, WITHOUT OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT TO AVOID INTERNATIONAL PRESSURE.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THIS END WE CAN DISAGREE WHETHER THIS IS A WAR AGAINST HAMAS OR A DISPROPORTIONATE WAR OF ETHNIC CLEANSING ON THE PALESTINIANS OF GAZA. WE CAN DISAGREE ON THE RIGHT RIGHTNESS OR WRONGNESS OF THE UNITED STATES ARMAMENT SHIPMENTS, MAKING MUCH OF THIS POSSIBLE.

PEOPLE WILL DISAGREE ABOUT THE CONTEXT AND MEANING OF OCTOBER 7TH.

WE MAY DISAGREE ON WHOM THE LIGHT OF THE SUN SHOULD SHINE, BUT RESPONSIBLE MINDS AND HEARTS MUST AGREE THAT THE KILLING MUST END.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ELENA, SAADIA AND LAURA FRANCK.

GREETINGS TO THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ELENA SZEGEDY.

I USE SHE HER PRONOUNS AND I AM A MASTER OF PUBLIC HEALTH STUDENT AT NYU, A GRADUATE ASSISTANT AND THE PRESIDENT FOR THE STUDENTS FOR JUSTICE IN PALESTINE CLUB AT NYU.

I AM ALSO THE DAUGHTER OF A PALESTINIAN IMMIGRANT AND THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF A PALESTINIAN NAKBA SURVIVOR.

I HAVE FAMILY IN PALESTINE, AND I HAVE BEEN LEARNING ABOUT PALESTINIAN RESISTANCE AND THEIR FIGHT FOR FREEDOM.

SINCE I WAS LITTLE.

I HAVE ALSO BEEN WRITING ABOUT PALESTINE FROM A HEALTH AND SOCIAL JUSTICE PERSPECTIVE FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.

WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT WEAPONIZING JEWISH TRAUMA TO KILL PALESTINIANS WILL NOT MAKE JEWISH PEOPLE SAFER.

ANTI-SEMITISM IS NEVER OKAY, BUT PALESTINIAN FREEDOM IS NOT SYNONYMOUS WITH JEWISH OPPRESSION.

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IT HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY HORRIFYING TO WATCH THE WESTERN MEDIA AND OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAINT PALESTINIAN PEOPLE AS ANIMALISTIC TERRORISTS WHEN THEY ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO LIVE FULL LIVES.

REFUSAL TO ADD THIS RESOLUTION TO A FUTURE AGENDA, AND CONSEQUENTLY ADOPT IT, REPRESENTS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THESE HARMFUL STEREOTYPES AS THE VIEWS OF THIS COUNCIL.

REFUSING THIS RESOLUTION IS NOT AN OPTION FOR A COUNCIL THAT IS INVESTED IN THE NEEDS OF THEIR COMMUNITY AND EMPATHETIC IN THEIR IN THEIR PURSUIT FOR EQUITABLE LIVING AS PROPONENTS OF COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS.

THIS ISSUE MATTERS TO THE PEOPLE OF SO-CALLED FLAGSTAFF.

IT MATTERS TO THE INDIGENOUS TRIBES WHOSE LANDS WE STAND ON RIGHT NOW.

IT MATTERS TO THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY WHO NEED TO BE SUPPORTED AND PROTECTED.

IT MATTERS TO THE ALLIES WHO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF SOLIDARITY, WORK AND HUMANITY.

THOROUGH OF STUDENT AND COMMUNITY GROUPS WHO HAVE MOBILIZED IN SUPPORT OF PALESTINE.

THIS MATTERS TO US AND IT SHOULD MATTER TO YOU TOO.

IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THIS RESOLUTION IS ADDED TO A FUTURE AGENDA AND ADOPTED AS A RESOLUTION IN SO-CALLED FLAGSTAFF.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LAURA FRANK AND THEN STAN CLARK.

THIS IS. GOOD EVENING.

ALOHA AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

MY NAME IS LAURA FRANCA.

I LIVE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF IN SUNNYSIDE.

I MOVED BACK IN 1998, BUT GRADUATED FROM FLAG HIGH.

SO I'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE.

I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, BUT THIS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SPOKEN BECAUSE THIS REALLY HITS HOME WITH ME.

SO I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH SOME QUOTES AND THEN I'M GOING TO TIE IT ALL IN.

I THINK THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES WHO DON'T KNOW PALESTINIAN QUESTION WHAT IS IT? SO THEY SO WE WANT THEM TO ONLY KNOW WHO THE PALESTINIANS ARE, TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE PEOPLE LIKE OTHERS, HAVE BRAINS, HAVE SHAPES LIKE PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.

I HEARD THAT SOME PEOPLE THERE SAY THAT PALESTINIANS ARE LIKE ANIMALS OR SOMETHING.

WE WANT THE PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES TO KNOW THAT WE ARE PEOPLE LIKE THEM.

WE HAVE THE SAME INTELLIGENCE.

WE ARE SIMPLE PEOPLE, KIND PEOPLE.

WE ARE PALESTINIANS PEOPLE, NOT MORE.

ANOTHER QUOTE WHY DOESN'T AMERICAN PRESS TELL AMERICANS WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? THE AMERICANS ARE GOOD PEOPLE.

THEY BELIEVE IN THINGS.

THEY BELIEVE IN JUSTICE.

THESE ARE QUOTES FROM A PHOTOGRAPHY BOOK MADE IN 1980 AND 1982, WHEN LOCAL PHOTOGRAPHER FRIENDS JOHN RUNNING AND SUE BENNETT VISIT THE MIDDLE EAST.

HERE'S SOME OF THEIR QUOTES.

OUR TAXI DRIVER WAS PALESTINIAN.

WE ASKED ABOUT PALESTINE, AND THE BIG BEAR OF A MAN BROKE DOWN AND WEPT, SOBBED.

IT'S BEEN 32 YEARS.

THEY ACT LIKE IT HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

I DON'T KNOW THE PAIN THAT STAYS SO STRONG AFTER 32 YEARS.

THAT'S FROM SUE.

AND ANOTHER QUOTE LET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN REFUGEE CAMPS IN THE MIDDLE EAST WHO ARE BEING BOMBED WITH AMERICAN MADE BOMBS DROPPED FROM AMERICAN MADE PHANTOM JET FIGHTERS.

WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS THIS IS A BOOK THAT'S OVER 40 YEARS OLD.

THIS IS NOTHING NEW.

THESE WERE PHOTOGRAPHERS WITH THE LENS THAT SHOWED US PALESTINIANS AND THEIR HEART.

RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY WE ALL HAVE LENSES ON PALESTINE AND GAZA, RIGHT IN OUR POCKETS, IN OUR HANDS, AND WE CAN'T DENY WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT? LIVE ACTIONS FROM PEOPLE ON THE GROUND.

OUR PHOTOGRAPHER FRIENDS.

AND SUCH, AND I SKIP BECAUSE I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

SO CURRENTLY ON DAY 165, THROUGH OUR IPHONES AND SOCIAL MEDIA, OUR CURRENT LENS ON GAZA AND SURROUNDING PALESTINE CAN'T BE IGNORED.

NO LONGER. WE ARE WITNESSES TO THIS ONGOING BRUTAL OCCUPATION.

FOR NOW. FOR OVER 75 YEARS AND NOW THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE ARE SHOWING US LIVE, UNFILTERED IMAGES, STORIES AND TRUTHS OF GENOCIDE INSTANTANEOUSLY.

I ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THEIR BRAVE COURAGE AND PASS THE CEASE FIRE OF REVOLUTION.

RESOLUTION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

AND IF YOU EVER WANT TO LOOK AT ANY OF THESE BOOKS, COME FIND ME STAN CLARK, AND THEN DOCTOR JOHN.

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COUNCIL AND MAYOR DAGGETT REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING US TO PRESENT SOME OF THESE IDEAS TONIGHT AND AM GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS.

I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO CONTRIBUTE IN TERMS OF FACTS AND FIGURES.

I MEAN, I HAVE SOME HERE, BUT THEY'VE MAINLY ALL BEEN SAID MAYBE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SAID OR THAT THERE ARE, LET ME SAY, JUST TO MAKE SURE 800,000 CHILDREN OR PEOPLE CURRENTLY STARVING THERE THAT ARE IN VERY DIRE STRAITS.

THERE ARE 1.8 MILLION PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DEPRIVED OF HOUSING.

I HAD THEIR HOMES BOMBED.

DESTROYED PERMANENTLY.

THERE ARE 78,000.

IT'S THE LATEST QUOTE I READ.

INJURED CURRENTLY, MOST OF WHOM HAVE NO MEDICAL CARE AVAILABLE BECAUSE ALMOST ALL OF THE HOSPITALS HAVE BEEN DESTROYED OR GREATLY DEGRADED.

FOR ME, IT'S JUST ABOUT BEING A PERSON.

AND SO I WON'T TRY TO MAKE ANY KIND OF ARGUMENT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU SHOULD EVEN PASS A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION.

THAT'S FOR ANOTHER NIGHT.

TO ME, I THINK YOU'VE HEARD ENOUGH ALREADY AS A HUMAN BEING TO CONSIDER DISCUSSING THIS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD NOT DISCUSS THIS.

BRING THIS UP TO DISCUSS FOR FOR IF NO OTHER REASON.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO YOU REPRESENT IN THIS TOWN WHO DESERVE TO HAVE THESE THINGS CONSIDERED BECAUSE THEY'RE RESIDENTS, TOO.

AND SO MY MAJOR CONTRIBUTION IS JUST AS A FELLOW, AS A CITIZEN WHO'S LIVED HERE SINCE 1993 AND A PERSON WHO'S WORKED AT NIU, WHO'S NOW RETIRED AS A RETIRED PSYCHOLOGIST, WHO'S WORKED WITH TRAUMATIZED PEOPLE FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

PLEASE CONSIDER THIS RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR JOHN VEDAS AND THEN RICHARD KOZAK.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THIS IS A VERY EMOTIONAL AND SERIOUS TOPIC, BUT I STILL LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO WISH YOU HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

I'M GOING TO TALK ON TWO POINTS REGARDING THIS PETITION, WHICH I AM AGAINST.

HOWEVER, I AM DEFINITELY FOR A CEASE FIRE, WHICH MAY SURPRISE SOME PEOPLE.

THE TWO THINGS WOULD BE REGARDING THE CONSIDERATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S OR THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS TOPIC, AND THE PERMANENT CEASE FIRE ITSELF.

THE QUESTION IS, SHOULD WE SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL EVEN CONSIDER SUCH ISSUES? WELL, LET'S CONSIDER BOTH OUTCOMES AND THE GOALS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE AS FAR AS OUTCOMES APPROVING OR MAYBE EVEN JUST CONSIDERING SUCH A PROPOSAL WILL ONLY DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY.

CONSIDER MANY JEWS IN FLAGSTAFF AND OUTSIDE THAT ARE IN FEAR OF HARM DUE TO SEEING ANTI-SEMITISM ALL OVER THE WORLD, INCLUDING HERE.

ONLY TWO WEEKS AGO WE HAD NEO-NAZIS SPEAKING HERE.

SO DISGUSTING THAT YOU HAD TO TAKE THE VIDEO DOWN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

AS FAR AS GOALS, I WOULD THINK THAT OUR GOALS SHOULD BE TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY OF ALL RELIGIONS AND ALL PEOPLE.

WHICH LEADS INTO MY NEXT PART REGARDING THE PETITION ITSELF.

AS I SAID, I'M DEFINITELY FOR A CEASEFIRE, PERMANENT CEASEFIRE.

AND I THINK IT'S VERY SIMPLE.

HAMAS SURRENDER UNCONDITIONALLY AND RETURN ALL THE HOSTAGES.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

SUPPORTING OR CONSIDERING THIS REQUEST WITHOUT WHAT I JUST MENTIONED, BASICALLY SAYS THAT WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE HOSTAGES OR THE INNOCENT LIVES OF CIVILIANS.

GIVING INTO TRUE EVIL OF THESE TERRORISTS WILL ONLY ALLOW EVIL TO SPREAD.

WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT WAR IS BAD, BUT TO DESTROY EVIL, IT IS NECESSARY.

APPROVING SUCH, OR EVEN THINKING ABOUT SUCH A RESOLUTION WITHOUT HAVING THE HOSTAGES BACK AND HAMAS TERRORISTS SURRENDERING.

BASICALLY, TELL PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY AND OTHERS THAT IT IS OKAY TO COME INTO SOMEONE'S HOME, MURDER, TORTURE, MUTILATE, RAPE AND KIDNAP THEIR FAMILY. NOT ONLY THAT.

THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FIGHT BACK IN DEFENSE.

THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SEEK THOSE EVILDOERS FOR JUSTICE.

THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GET THEIR KIDNAPED FAMILIES BACK.

THAT IS WHAT THIS PETITION IS ASKING YOU TO DO.

OKAY, I WILL END WITH THIS QUOTE.

WE WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT.

WE WILL NOT VANISH WITHOUT A FIGHT.

WE'RE NOT GOING. WE ARE GOING TO LIVE ON.

WE ARE GOING TO SURVIVE.

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GOD BLESS AMERICA.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

RICHARD KOZAK AND THEN FREDERICK HALL.

THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO WORDS TO EXPRESS HOW HIDEOUSLY WRONG THIS ONGOING SLAUGHTER IS.

IMAGINE, IF YOU WILL, A MAN LIVING NEXT DOOR TO ME COMES INTO MY HOUSE AND KILLED OR RAPED ONE OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS.

THAT DOES NOT GIVE ME THE RIGHT TO GO OUT AND KILL DOZENS OF MY NEIGHBORS, INNOCENT NEIGHBORS, NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRY TO JUSTIFY OR RATIONALIZE IT.

IT SHOULD BE A TENET OF BEING HUMAN, THAT WHEN A WRONG IS OBSERVED, THERE'S AN OBLIGATION TO CORRECT OR STOP IT NO MATTER WHERE IT OCCURS, BE IT ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS COUNTY LINES, OR ACROSS NATIONAL BOUNDARIES.

BUT PERHAPS THIS ELEMENT OF BEING PART OF A CIVILIZED SOCIETY HAS BEEN LOST.

AND IF THIS IS SO, GOD HELP US ALL.

WE ALL NEED TO ACT.

AND IN A DEMOCRACY, IF WE STILL HAVE ONE, WE HAVE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES AND WE ARE ASKING YOU TO SPEAK UP BY FURTHERING AND PASSING THIS RESOLUTION. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

FREDERICK. HALL.

FREDERICA HALL.

AND NATALIA DAMIAN.

HELLO, COUNCIL.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL HERE.

SO THERE'S BEEN SOME SAID OF WHAT THE ATROCITIES HAVE BEEN GOING ON SINCE OCTOBER.

AND FOR 70 SOME YEARS, IT'S AN OCCUPIED COUNTRY.

MANDELA. SAID IT WAS AN OCCUPIED COUNTRY.

THE UN SAYS IT AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL ALMOST EVERY HUMAN HUMAN GROUP HAS PROCLAIMED THAT IT'S AN OCCUPATION. LEGALLY, THE OCCUPIERS ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE THEY OCCUPY AND NOT HURT THEM.

WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THERE HAVE BEEN 7000 SINCE OCTOBER 7TH.

7000 HOSTAGES HAVE BEEN TAKEN BY ISRAEL, PALESTINIANS INTO PRISONS.

THEY ALSO.

HAMAS HAS DONE.

WE COULD CALL IT EVIL.

I WILL CALL IT EVIL.

WAR IS EVIL.

SLAUGHTER IS EVEN MORE EVIL.

WAR HAPPENS BETWEEN TWO EQUAL BEINGS.

ISRAEL HAS ONE OF THE MOST ADVANCED MILITARIES ON THE PLANET, WITH GREAT CAPABILITY OF GOING IN AND GETTING HAMAS WITHOUT DESTROYING 30,000 PEOPLE, WITHOUT DESTROYING ALL OF GAZA, ALL THE SCHOOLS, ALL THE HOSPITALS, EVERYTHING YOU NEED FOR AN INFRASTRUCTURE GONE RUBBLE WITH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DISPLACED MILLIONS.

THIS BARBARISM IS WHAT IT IS.

AND IF WE DON'T SAY WE DO NOT WANT BARBARISM, IT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.

IT'S HAPPENING IN OUR OWN COUNTRY BECAUSE WE'RE ALLOWING IT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING IT NORMAL.

IT IS NOT NORMAL.

IT IS SUICIDAL.

WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN THIS COUNTRY, IN THE WORLD, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE BARBARISM HAPPENING IN OUR WORLD BECAUSE WE ARE AT THE EDGE OF TOTAL DESTRUCTION IN OUR ENVIRONMENT, AND THE AMOUNT OF MORE DESTRUCTION THAT THIS PARTICULAR BARBARISM HAS BEEN DOING IS CREATING GREATER THREAT TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ECOSYSTEM.

JUST THAT ALONE SHOULD SHOCK US.

BUT WE'VE BECOME NUMB.

WE ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE NUMB.

NUMB TO THE SLAUGHTER OF CHILDREN.

NUMB TO THE SLAUGHTER OF WOMEN.

BECAUSE IT IS SLAUGHTER.

AND BOTH PARTIES ARE WRONG AND NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

BUT IT HAS TO BE STOPPED.

CEASEFIRE HAS TO COME.

AND THOSE ALL THAT HAVE CREATED THIS DISASTER HAVE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, BOTH HAMAS AND BOTH ISRAEL.

I PRAY THAT WE CAN STOP THIS BARBARISM AND NOT LET IT SPREAD.

THANK YOU. NATHANIEL.

DAMIEN. AND THEN ISABELLA KIMBALL.

[04:25:03]

GOOD EVENING, ESTEEMED COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS NATHANIEL DAMIAN.

I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENTS FOR JUSTICE IN PALESTINE AT NYU.

AND I'M HERE WITH THE SIMPLE MESSAGE.

THAT MESSAGE IS THAT A VOTE AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION, A FAILURE TO EVEN CONSIDER THIS RESOLUTION, IS A VOTE AGAINST PALESTINIANS.

IT IS A VOTE AGAINST HUMANITY.

AND IT IS A VOTE AGAINST GOD AND HIS CREATION.

SINCE OCTOBER 7TH, ISRAEL HAS ENGAGED IN THE INDISCRIMINATE GENOCIDE AND THE INDISCRIMINATE KILLING OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.

SINCE OCTOBER 7TH, 31,000 CIVILIANS HAVE BEEN KILLED AT THE HANDS OF ISRAEL.

12,000 CHILDREN HAVE DIED AT THE HANDS OF ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL ARMIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

AND YOU MIGHT SAY THIS DOES NOT AFFECT US.

WE ARE IN FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, AND WE ARE FAR FROM THE EVENTS IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

BUT THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT HAS ACTIVELY AIDED THE STATE OF ISRAEL TO CONTINUE CARRYING OUT THEIR WAR CRIMES.

THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT HAS ACTIVELY PROVIDED WEAPONS ARTILLERY SUPPORT, BOTH MORAL AND FINANCIAL, SO THAT NETANYAHU CAN CONTINUE HIS HIS BLOODBATH.

SO NETANYAHU CAN CONTINUE PROCLAIMING THAT THEY DO TO THE PALESTINIANS, AS AMALEK HAS DONE TO THEM, WHICH IS GENOCIDAL RHETORIC, ACCORDING TO TO SCHOLARS AND HISTORIANS.

AND WILLIAM FLAGSTAFF CANNOT STAND NEUTRAL IN THE FACE OF IMMORALITY.

WE IN FLAGSTAFF CANNOT STAND BY AS WE FACE A MORAL RECKONING, THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVE NOT SEEN.

IN OUR LIFETIMES, AND WE MUST MAKE A DECISION.

AND WE MUST SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

WE MUST MAKE A DECISION TO NOT STAND NEUTRAL AND TO STAND FOR WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS MORAL.

FOR A VOTE OF NEUTRALITY.

OR A VOTE AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION.

AS A VOTE THAT SIGNIFIES TO THE WORLD THAT WE WILL TOLERATE EVIL, THAT WE WILL TOLERATE THE CONTINUAL GENOCIDE OF A PEOPLE.

AND THEREFORE, I DEMAND THAT TODAY WE STAND AND NOT ONLY CONSIDER THIS RESOLUTION FOR PASSAGE, BUT I DEMAND THAT WE STAND FOR WHAT IS RIGHT, FOR WHAT IS MORAL AND SAY, CEASE FIRE NOW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ISABELLA KIMBALL AND THEN KAI KELLY.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

I'M NOT SUPER FANCY, AND I DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF STATISTICS TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, BUT I AM VERY MUCH AGAINST THE IDEA THAT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE SO FAR FROM PALESTINE AND THE MIDDLE EAST IN GENERAL, THAT IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS.

AS MARTIN LUTHER KING SAID AN INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE.

JUST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT NEAR IT, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE IT EVERY DAY WITH OUR OWN EYES, DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER.

PEOPLE ARE STARVING PEOPLE.

PEOPLE DON'T HAVE HOUSES.

PEOPLE AREN'T ABLE TO CARE FOR THEIR BABIES.

I THINK AS HUMANS, THAT SHOULD MATTER NO MATTER WHERE IT'S AT.

IF WE JUST LET IT GO AND SAY, WELL, IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS, THEN WHAT'S STOPPING IT FROM HAPPENING HERE? OR SOMEWHERE CLOSER AND JUST LETTING IT SPREAD? I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS THIS NO MATTER HOW FAR AWAY WE ARE FROM IT.

AND I KNOW ONE OF ONE OF YOU UP HERE SAID AT SOME POINT THAT HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE HOUSING, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT. AND THEY'RE HUMANS JUST LIKE US.

AND IF WE HAVE THESE VALUES THAT WE HOLD AND THAT WE BOAST ABOUT, IT SHOULDN'T MATTER WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S STILL SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AND ADVOCATE FOR.

IF WE WERE IN A SIMILAR CRISIS AND PALESTINE WAS INSTEAD HAVING A CITY COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT IT, WOULD YOU WANT THEM TO JUST SAY, WELL, IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS, IT'S ARIZONA.

WE DON'T CARE. AND I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT, TO AT LEAST DISCUSS IT.

OF COURSE, I'M FOR PASSING THE RESOLUTION, BUT AT LEAST TALK ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

KAI KELLY, AND THEN LORENZO GOMEZ.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[04:30:03]

I'VE LIVED IN ARIZONA MY WHOLE LIFE.

THIS YEAR MARKS A DECADE OF BEING IN FLAGSTAFF AND HOPEFULLY MANY MORE DECADES.

IF I CAN AFFORD IT. BUT I, LIKE MANY OTHERS IN THIS ROOM PROBABLY WENT TO NYU.

I GRADUATED WITH A DEGREE IN ANTHROPOLOGY AND ARCHEOLOGY.

AND AFTER GRADUATION, LIKE ANY NEW GRAD, I SPENT WEEKS APPLYING FOR JOBS WITH NO LUCK UNTIL I WAS SOMEONE EVENTUALLY REACHED OUT WITH A JOB OFFER TO MONITOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF IFTS ON THE TOHONO O'ODHAM RESERVATION, OR NATION ALONG ARIZONA'S SOUTHERN BORDER.

AT THAT TIME, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ANY OF THOSE WORDS MEANT, BUT IT WAS A JOB.

IT WAS MORE MONEY THAN I HAD EVER SEEN.

SO I WENT DOWN THERE.

I WORKED DIRECTLY WITH TRIBAL MEMBERS WHO I BECAME FRIENDS WITH.

DESPITE MY HAVING NO BUSINESS BEING THERE.

I HEARD THEIR STORIES, AND I SAW FIRSTHAND WHAT LIFE IS LIKE DOWN THERE.

THE TOHONO O'ODHAM HAVE LIVED IN THE SONORAN DESERT FOR TIME IMMEMORIAL, AND NOT TOO LONG AGO A BORDER WAS DRAWN THROUGH THEIR LAND.

NOW IT IS FULLY OCCUPIED AND MILITARIZED.

THERE ARE FEDERAL AGENTS EVERYWHERE.

AND WHILE THE PEOPLE THERE ARE CONSTANTLY HARASSED AND TREATED AS ILLEGAL ON THEIR OWN LAND.

SO WHAT WERE THE EFFECTS THAT I WAS MONITORING THE CONSTRUCTION OF? THEY ARE INTEGRATED FIXED TOWERS, WHICH ARE A VIRTUAL SURVEILLANCE TOWER THAT DETECT MOTION FROM MILES AWAY.

THEY CAN PRETTY MUCH SEE ANYWHERE THAT THEY WANT, AND THEY ARE OPERATED BY SOME GUY BEHIND A SCREEN.

AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE HERE, BUT 24 SURVEILLANCE.

24 OVER SEVEN SURVEILLANCE TOWERS OPERATED BY SOME GUY BEHIND A SCREEN IS NOT MY IDEA OF FREEDOM.

ANYWAY I JUST WANT TO GIVE CONTEXT TO WHY IT IS IMPORTANT THAT OUR LITTLE TOWN IN ARIZONA, OF 80,000 PEOPLE, HALF A WORLD AWAY, ADOPT A OR AT LEAST CONSIDER ADOPTING A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION BETWEEN PALESTINE AND ISRAEL.

THESE INTEGRATED FIXED TOWERS THAT ARE BEING PLACED ALL ALONG OUR BORDER AND ON TRIBAL LAND WERE DESIGNED AND BUILT BY ELBIT, ISRAEL'S PRIMARY DEFENSE CONTRACTOR. THEY WERE TESTED ON THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE BEFORE BEING SOLD TO US.

I URGE CITY COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DISCUSSING A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION WHEN FLAGSTAFF ADOPTS A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION.

WE NOT ONLY CONDEMN THE ONGOING OCCUPATION AND DECIMATION OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES IN PALESTINE, BUT WE REJECT OUR OWN COLONIAL HISTORY AND COMPLICITY IN THE ONGOING OPPRESSION OF OUR NATIVE BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

AND IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, AT A MINIMUM, THEN WE HAVEN'T LEARNED ANYTHING FROM HISTORY.

EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING NOW HAS HAPPENED BEFORE HERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, LORENZO GOMEZ AND THEN HALEY HASSANI.

HELLO, MAYOR. HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO I DIDN'T ACTUALLY PLAN ON SPEAKING TONIGHT, BUT I'M HERE.

SO I'M HERE REPRESENTING MYSELF.

ALL OPINIONS ARE MY OWN.

BUT I DO REPRESENT THE OTHER TWO THIRDS OF AMERICANS WHO SUPPORT AN IMMEDIATE CEASE FIRE IN GAZA.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, OVER 30,000 PALESTINIANS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN A MATTER OF MONTHS.

AND I WILL TAKE TIME TO EXPLAIN WHY IT'S PERTINENT THAT WE CONSIDER A RESOLUTION HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

SO YOU MAY BE WONDERING HOW THIS WILL CHANGE OR DO ANYTHING IN GAZA.

WELL, IT'S MY OPINION THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE THE MOST REPRESENTATIVE.

WE, YOU KNOW, CONSENT EMAILS AND CALLS TO OUR FEDERAL AND STATE LEGISLATORS.

BUT AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SCHEDULED MANY, MANY MEETINGS WITH THOSE LEGISLATORS, THEY DON'T LISTEN UNLESS YOU'RE SOMEONE OF STANDING, WHICH IS YOU ALL.

SO. YOU ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS AND NEEDS, AND IT IS PRETTY CLEAR BY THIS ROOM THAT WE HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO WANT AN IMMEDIATE CEASE FIRE.

IS. SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO BE REPRESENTING, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND I THINK IT'S AT LEAST WORTH DISCUSSING, GIVEN WHERE WE'RE STANDING TODAY, WE'RE ON STOLEN LAND.

WE CANNOT SIT HERE AND PRETEND THE OCCUPATION OF GAZA AND THE WEST BANK IS NOT RELATED.

THE HISTORY OF THIS OCCUPATION AND SLAUGHTER DID NOT HAPPEN AND START ON OCTOBER 7TH, LIKE SOME OF MY PEERS MAY CLAIM.

IT STARTED NEARLY 80 YEARS AGO WHEN 700,000 PALESTINIANS WERE FIRST DISPLACED BY ZIONIST MILITIAS.

WE DO SO MUCH TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE GENOCIDE AND COLONIZATION OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY HERE.

I'M PERSONALLY A PART OF A BOARD TO ESTABLISH THE FIRST INDIGENOUS CULTURAL CENTER IN FLAGSTAFF.

SO WE DO SO MUCH TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR WRONGS AND HOPEFULLY RIGHT OUR WRONGS.

[04:35:04]

SO THIS IS A CHANCE TO SET A PRECEDENT THAT WE AS A CITY BUILT UPON OCCUPIED LAND THAT WE CURRENTLY STAND ON.

THAT WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE TAKING OF INNOCENT LIVES IN AN OCCUPIED PALESTINE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

HALEY. HASANI AND JAWAD.

DALIA. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I WOULD START BY SAYING WHY WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT THE CEASEFIRE IN GAZA, BECAUSE THE CONGRESS HAS APPROVED $200 BILLION THAT THE BILLION DOLLAR THAT WE NEED HERE FOR HOUSING CRISIS, FOR OPIOID CRISIS, FOR HOMELESS CRISIS.

JUST 14 BILLION OF THAT WENT THIS YEAR TO ISRAEL.

AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

WE NEVER GIVE THAT MUCH MONEY.

WE DIDN'T GIVE THAT MUCH MONEY TO UKRAINE TO TO FIGHT THE RUSSIANS OR THE BIGGEST THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES.

WE DIDN'T GIVE MONEY TO TO MANY COUNTRIES THAT CERTAINLY NEEDS THAT.

WE GIVE IT TO ISRAEL, AND WE SAY ISRAEL IS THE BIGGEST DEMOCRACY TO IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

ISRAEL IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.

ISRAEL IS A DANGER TO DEMOCRACY BECAUSE ISRAEL IS AN ETHNO NATIONALIST STATE, IS TEACHING OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE INDIA THAT HOW TO GET RID OF IT IS MINORITIES.

THIS IS NOT A WAR AGAINST.

THIS IS NOT A WAR AGAINST HAMAS.

THIS IS A WAR AGAINST PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.

I WOULD SAY THIS IS A WAR ON PALESTINIAN PEOPLE, BECAUSE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE DOES NOT HAVE A COUNTRY.

THEY DO NOT HAVE A MILITARY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.

THEY'RE JUST CIVILIANS.

AND SINCE OCTOBER 7TH, THIS IS THIS IS NOT NEW.

THIS IS YOU COULD GO BACK IN HISTORY, YOU COULD GO 48, YOU COULD GO 67, YOU COULD GO 97, 73.

THEY THEY OCCUPIED THE LINE.

AND THEY THAT DAVID BEN-GURION SAID, IF YOU WANT PEACE WITH THE ARAB STATES, YOU GOT TO GIVE THEIR LAND BACK.

THEY'RE NOT SAYING THE WHOLE ISRAEL, THEY'RE JUST SAYING WHAT WAS ISRAEL BEFORE 1948? AND AT THAT POINT THEY'RE JUST SAYING, GIVE OUR LAND BASED ON WHAT THE 1967 BORDER.

THEY'RE NOT ASKING ABOUT 1948.

AND I THINK IT IS HUMANE.

AND IT IS IT IS MORAL FOR FOR EVERYBODY AROUND THE THE WORLD TO STAND WITH PALESTINIAN PEOPLE BECAUSE, AS THE GENTLEMAN SAID, WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT THIS.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE MONEY, BECAUSE ISRAEL IS NOT DAVID AGAIN ANYMORE.

ISRAEL IS THE GOLIATH IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

ISRAEL IS THE HEGEMON.

WE SAW THAT IN 1980 WHEN THEY INVADED LEBANON, AND THEY ARE DOING IT RIGHT NOW.

WE SHOULD CARE, BECAUSE IF THIS WAR GOES BEYOND THE BORDER OF ISRAEL AND PALESTINE.

THE AMERICAN SOLDIERS IS GOING TO GET INVOLVED, AND WE DON'T WANT A SECOND AFGHANISTAN.

WE DON'T WANT A SECOND IRAQ, BECAUSE THERE ARE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE SENDING SOLDIERS TO UAE.

THEY'RE SENDING SOLDIERS TO QATAR, THEY'RE SENDING SOLDIERS TO ALL MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES BECAUSE THEY'RE PREPARING IN CASE IF AMERICANS HAS TO BE INVOLVED, WHY THE HELL AMERICANS SHOULD FIGHT FOR ISRAEL WHEN ISRAEL IS NOT EVEN CONSIDERING CEASEFIRE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JAWAD. DALIA.

AND RABBI DOV SCHAPIRO.

HELLO, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR HEARING US OUT OVER HERE.

AS A PALESTINIAN WHOSE PARENTS MIGRATED FROM A TO AMERICA DUE TO THE OCCUPATION OF PALESTINE, I WAS MORE FORTUNATE THAN MILLIONS OF PALESTINIANS WHO CANNOT LEAVE THAT COUNTRY.

SO WE CANNOT SIT HERE AND SUPPORT ANOTHER GROUP OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE BEING WIPED OUT OF HISTORY.

ISRAEL RIGHT NOW, AT THIS MOMENT, KILLED OVER 30,000 CHILDREN AND WOMEN JUST IN A MATTER OF FIVE MONTHS, AND TOOK OVER 6000 INNOCENT PALESTINIANS IN CUSTODY AS WELL.

I DON'T THINK THIS RESOLUTION WOULD DIVIDE FLAGSTAFF.

YOU KNOW, NEO-NAZIS HATE ARABS AND PALESTINIANS AS MUCH AS THEY HATE JEWS.

PROBABLY. SO. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HATE.

THE BARE MINIMUM WE COULD DO IS JUST ASK FOR A CEASE FIRE TO STOP THE KILLING.

WE'RE NOT ASKING ANYBODY TO TAKE A SIDE.

IT'S JUST TO STOP THE KILLING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[04:40:02]

RABBI DOV SCHAPIRO AND THEN ERIC DESCHEENIE.

HONORABLE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF ADVOCATING FOR A CEASEFIRE WITHOUT DEMANDING THE COMPLETE ERADICATION OF HAMAS AND THE SAFE RETURN OF ALL HOSTAGES WOULD ONLY EMBOLDEN TERRORISM AND CAUSE FURTHER ATROCITIES AND UNNECESSARY LOSS OF LIFE.

WHILE WE MOURN THE LOSS OF ALL INNOCENT LIVES AND ABHOR THE CONSEQUENCES OF WAR, WE CANNOT OVERLOOK HAMAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SUFFERING IT INFLICTS ON ITS OWN PEOPLE AND THE INNOCENT NEIGHBORS IN ISRAEL.

CONSIDER THIS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE ENTERTAINED CALLS FOR A CEASE FIRE FROM ALL SIDES DURING WORLD WAR TWO, WHEN THE ALLIES WERE COMBATING NAZI GERMANY.

WE MUST UPHOLD MORAL CLARITY AND STAND RESOLUTELY AGAINST ALL FORMS OF EVIL.

IT IS DISHEARTENING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT ADDRESSED TRUE GENOCIDE OCCURRING GLOBALLY WITH THE SAME URGENCY.

WE MUST REFLECT ON WHY ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ISRAEL TRIGGER RESPONSES WHEN OTHER REAL ATROCITIES ARE OVERLOOKED.

MOREOVER, WHERE WAS THE CITY COUNCIL'S VOICE AFTER OCTOBER 7TH, WHEN HAMAS RUTHLESSLY MASSACRED 1400 INNOCENT MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THEIR HOMES AND BRUTALLY KIDNAPED 240 HOSTAGES, INCLUDING ELDERLY MEN, WOMEN AND BABIES.

LET US NOT FORGET THAT ISRAEL, IN DEFENDING ITSELF, DID NOT INITIATE THIS CONFLICT.

CLAIMS OF OCCUPATION ARE BASELESS CONSIDERING ISRAEL'S COMPLETE WITHDRAWAL FROM GAZA IN 2005, A FACT BEYOND DISPUTE.

WHILE SOME MAY ARGUE THE COMPLEXITY OF THE MIDDLE EAST SITUATION, IT REMAINS UNEQUIVOCAL.

TRUE AND LASTING PEACE CAN ONLY PREVAIL IF THOSE HARBORING HATRED TOWARDS ISRAEL LAY DOWN THEIR ARMS. CONVERSELY, ANY CALL FOR ISRAEL TO DISARM WOULD RESULT IN GENUINE GENOCIDE.

THIS MONTH, JEWISH COMMUNITIES AROUND THE WORLD CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAY OF PURIM.

TRACING ITS ORIGINS BACK TO 365 BCE.

DURING THIS TIME, KING ACHASHVEROSH AND HAMAN OF PERSIA CONSPIRED TO EXTERMINATE AND MURDER THE JEWISH POPULATION THROUGH A SERIES OF MIRACULOUS EVENTS. QUEEN ESTHER INTERVENED, ULTIMATELY SAVING HER PEOPLE FROM ANNIHILATION.

THROUGHOUT HISTORY, THE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE PERSEVERED IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY, OUTLASTING THOSE WHO SOUGHT TO ANNIHILATE US WITH DIVINE GUIDANCE.

WE HAVE NOT ONLY SURVIVED, BUT THRIVED, HOLDING STEADFAST TO THE PRINCIPLES OF PEACE, GOODNESS, AND ENLIGHTENMENT EMBODIED IN THE TORAH.

MY OWN GRANDMOTHER WAS A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR.

THE EVENTS OF OCTOBER 7TH, WHICH REIGNITED THE TRAUMA FOR JEWISH COMMUNITIES WORLDWIDE, HAS ALSO STRENGTHENED THE JEWISH PRIDE OF SO MANY, INCLUDING MYSELF.

THE LAND OF ISRAEL, BESTOWED UPON THE JEWISH PEOPLE BY GOD, HAS BEEN OUR ANCESTRAL HOME FOR OVER 3000 YEARS.

OUR PRAYERS ARE DIRECTED TOWARDS JERUSALEM THREE TIMES DAILY, A SYMBOLIC REAFFIRMATION OF OUR ENDURING CONNECTION TO OUR HOMELAND IN THESE TURBULENT TIMES, I TAKE PRIDE IN STANDING IN SOLIDARITY WITH ISRAEL, ADVOCATING FOR A SOLUTION THAT PROMOTES THE WELL-BEING OF ALL INHABITANTS OF THE REGION.

AMIDST THE CHALLENGES WE FACE TODAY, WE URGE YOU TO REFLECT DEEPLY ON YOUR CHOICES.

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM LENDING TO SUPPORT INDIVIDUALS OR GROUPS ADVOCATING FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE.

I URGE THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION OF THESE POINTS AND THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTIONS THAT PRIORITIZE PEACE, SECURITY, AND JUSTICE FOR ALL PARTIES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER AND YOUR DEDICATION TO SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, ERIC DESCHEENIE AND MARILYN WISEMAN.

MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AT A.

SHE ERIC DESCHEENIE WHEN SHE.

MY DESK IS NINA KIANI.

BASHASHKIN. BUT SHE AND ANOTHER IN NASHA.

MY NAME IS ERIC DESCHEENIE.

I'M A CITIZEN OF THE FLAGSTAFF.

I AM A FORMER MEMBER OF THE ARIZONA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DISTRICT SEVEN, NOW PRESENTLY DISTRICT SIX.

I AM A FATHER, I AM A SON, AND I AM A DESCENDANT TO MANY ANCESTORS THAT PRECEDED THE EXISTENCE OF THE UNITED STATES AND, OF COURSE, ARIZONA AND FLAGSTAFF.

ET CETERA. ET CETERA.

A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE WITH RESPECT TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES AND THE INJUSTICES THAT WE CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE AT THE HANDS OF SETTLER COLONIALISM RINGS IN MY EAR, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

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WE ARE DESCENDANTS OF A WHOLE LOT OF TRAUMA.

AND THE MORE WE SEE, THE MORE WE HEAR, THE MORE WE FEEL.

AND IT'S RELIVED AND LIVED AND RELIVED AGAIN.

THE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS CITY HAS ANY BUSINESS TAKING UP THIS TYPE OF PROPOSAL ON A GO FORWARD BASIS IS SHOULD BE OBVIOUS AS IT RELATES TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY.

AND OF COURSE, AS I'VE MENTIONED, THE FOLKS THAT COME FROM THE ANCESTORS OF OUR PEOPLES, THE ORIGINAL PEOPLES TO THIS LAND IT IS TRAUMA, AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO SEE AND EXPERIENCE.

WHAT WE ARE SEEING UNFOLD IN THE MIDDLE EAST IS TANTAMOUNT TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.

JUST RECENTLY, THE SECRETARY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR COMMISSIONED A REPORT THAT SHOWED HUNDREDS TO THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN WHO WERE MURDERED AT BOARDING SCHOOLS UNDER A POLICY AUTHORED BY THE UNITED STATES.

AND WE'RE ONLY STARTING TO UNEARTH THEM WITH MARKED AND UNMARKED GRAVE SITES.

SAME WITH THE CANADA.

AND YOU KIND OF WATCH WHAT'S UNFOLDING.

AND I THINK TO MYSELF, HOW IN THE WORLD ARE WE STILL DOING THIS IN 2023? HOW IN THE WORLD ARE OUR TAX DOLLARS STILL CONTRIBUTING TO THIS TYPE OF ATROCITY? I STILL CAN'T FATHOM THAT.

WHEN WE USE MY LAST 10S TO JUST SIMPLY SAY THERE IS SO MUCH MORE TO DISCUSS.

THERE IS SO MUCH MORE BUSINESS TO BE HAD ON THIS SUBJECT MATTER.

AND I IMPLORE YOU TO TO ADD THIS TO YOUR BUSINESS GOING FORWARD.

WE CAN'T. WE HAVE TWO MORE COMMENTERS AND I WILL REMIND YOU OF NO OUTBURSTS IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.

WE WANT EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO STATE THEIR PIECE HERE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

MARILYN. THANK YOU.

MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SUPPORT THE COUNCIL MOVING FORWARD ON THE FARE ITEM CONCERNING SUPPORT FOR A CEASEFIRE AND A JUST RESOLUTION TO THE PALESTINIAN-ISRAELI CONFLICT.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR WILLINGNESS TO MOVE THIS DISCUSSION FORWARD BECAUSE OF YOUR REJECTION OF THE FARE ITEM.

COUNCILMAN MCCARTHY BROUGHT TO YOUR MEETING ABOUT THE WAR IN UKRAINE.

I DON'T AGREE THAT INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT ON, IS NOT, QUOTE IN YOUR LANE.

THE SUFFERING THAT IS HAPPENING IN GAZA IS HORRENDOUS, AND IT DISTURBS ME VERY MUCH THAT MY GOVERNMENT IS PROVIDING THE WEAPONS TO ISRAEL AND NOT PUTTING ENOUGH PRESSURE ON THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT TO STOP THE WAR AND LET HUMANITARIAN AID GET TO THE STARVING PEOPLE OF GAZA.

YOU HAVE THE CHOICE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND REPRESENTATIVES ARE OUR COMMUNITY TO JOIN WITH THE 70 CITIES THAT HAVE PUT FORWARD CEASE FIRE RESOLUTIONS AND LET OUR CONGRESSMEN, OUR SENATOR AND OUR PRESIDENT KNOW WE WANT THIS WAR TO STOP.

IT IS ABSOLUTELY IN THE POWER OF THE UNITED STATES STATES TO BRING THIS CURRENT WAR TO AN END, AND WE NEED TO PRESSURE THEM TO DO SO.

OUR COMMUNITY'S VOICE SHOULD JOIN WITH THE OTHER CITIES AND COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD THAT WANT PEACE.

THIS RESOLUTION HAS STARTED A DISCUSSION IN THE COMMUNITY AMONG DIVERSE PEOPLES AND VIEWS.

WHILE SOME MIGHT THINK IT'S DIVISIVE FOR YOU TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY, I BELIEVE IT'S IMPERATIVE.

AS WE CAN SEE TONIGHT, PEOPLE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS WAR AND THE US SUPPORT FOR IT.

HOW ARE WE EVER HOW ARE THE ISRAELIS AND THE PALESTINIANS EVER GOING TO RESOLVE THIS IF WE DON'T MAKE PEACE AND TALK TO EACH OTHER WITH THE SIMPLE ACT OF PUTTING THIS RESOLUTION ON A FUTURE AGENDA, YOU CAN FURTHER THE EDUCATION OF YOURSELVES AND OF OUR COMMUNITY ON THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKING TOWARDS STOPPING THE KILLING AND FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE AND PEACE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NORA TIMMERMAN.

HI. COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU.

I'VE WRITTEN SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHICH ONES TO PRESENT BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID REALLY POWERFUL THINGS HERE.

I THINK WHAT I REALLY WANT TO HIT HOME IS THAT FOR ME, WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHETHER THIS RESOLUTION SHOULD COME TO A FULL CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, I THINK IT IS IMPERATIVE, AS SO MANY PEOPLE BEFORE ME HAVE SAID.

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AND IT'S ALL OF OUR JOBS FOR ALL KINDS OF REASONS, FOR THE REASONS OF THE PARALLELS BETWEEN THE SETTLER COLONIAL STATE THAT WE'RE LIVING IN HERE AND THE HISTORY OF A DESTRUCTION THAT'S HAPPENING IN, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY AND PRESENTLY AND WHAT'S HAPPENING OVERSEAS, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS, ALSO BECAUSE OF A SIMPLE KIND OF MORAL ISSUE WHEN YOU I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND I READ NEWS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN GAZA.

I GO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT AND I READ THE NEWS AND I JUST THINK TO MYSELF.

EVERY MORNING, EVERY EVENING.

WHAT CAN I DO? AND I DO CERTAIN THINGS.

YOU KNOW, I TEACH AT THE UNIVERSITY, SO I TALK WITH PEOPLE THERE.

I, I CALL MY STATE REPRESENTATIVES I WRITE LETTERS AND SIGN PETITIONS.

AND IT JUST FEELS LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO.

WE CAN ADDRESS THE THIS IS WITHIN OUR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE.

IT'S WITHIN YOUR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE.

TO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM WHERE WE GET TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN GAZA AND PALESTINE, AND WE GET TO MAYBE SAY, THIS IS WRONG AND WE BELIEVE IT'S WRONG AND WE THINK IT SHOULD STOP.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO IMPLORE YOU ON THOSE GROUNDS TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT IS OUR JOB.

IT'S MY JOB TO STAND HERE FEELING NERVOUS IN FRONT OF ALL OF THESE PEOPLE, AND TO COME BACK AGAIN.

IF AFTER YOU HOPEFULLY DO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, I THINK IT'S YOUR JOB TO DO THAT, TO HEAR US AGAIN, AND IT'S ALL OF OUR JOBS TO TO STAND UP IN THE FACE OF THIS KIND OF.

JUST UNFATHOMABLE LACK OF CONCERN FOR HUMAN LIFE AND WELL-BEING, TO DO SOMETHING AND TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

LET ME CONFIRM THAT I MEAN, SORRY ONLINE COMMENT.

OKAY. SO.

WHO WANTS TO BEGIN? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

EXCUSE ME FOLKS.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I PREPARED A SHORT STATEMENT HERE THAT I'M GOING TO READ.

I'VE BEEN TO ISRAEL.

I'VE BEEN TO ISRAEL TWICE.

I'VE STUDIED THE HISTORY OF THE REGION.

NOW. MUCH OF MY FAMILY COMES FROM IRELAND.

I SEE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN IRELAND AND THE MID EAST.

ENGLAND INVADED IRELAND A HALF A MILLENNIUM AGO.

FIGHTING WENT ON UNTIL A TWO STATE SOLUTION WAS ACCEPTED.

NO ONE IS HAPPY THAT IRELAND WAS DIVIDED INTO NORTHERN IRELAND AND THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND, BUT PEACE HAS HELD THERE FOR OVER A QUARTER OF A CENTURY NOW.

ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIANS MUST FIRST AGREE TO A TWO STATE SOLUTION.

SECOND, BOTH SIDES MUST STAND AGAINST ALL VIOLENCE.

I HOPE THAT OUR PRESIDENT CAN CONVINCE THE COMPETING SIDES THAT THESE TWO THINGS MUST BE ACHIEVED.

IF THEY ARE NOT REALIZED, WE WILL EXPERIENCE A MILLENNIUM OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.

THAT'S MY PREPARED STATEMENT I'M GOING TO ADD.

THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE READING QUOTES.

I'M GOING TO QUOTE SOMEONE THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME, MY MOTHER.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT MY MOTHER TAUGHT ME? TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT ISN'T ALL THE PALESTINIANS FAULT OR ALL THE ISRAELIS FAULT.

THEY'RE BOTH AT FAULT.

SO WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE TOGETHER AND RESOLVE THIS FOR THE SAKE OF WORLD PEACE.

I SUPPORT A DISCUSSION REGARDING A POSSIBLE COUNCIL RESOLUTION ON THIS MATTER.

IT WOULDN'T BE A RESOLUTION THAT PICKS SIDES.

IT WOULD BE A RESOLUTION THAT TRIES TO BRING BOTH SIDES TOGETHER AND GET THIS THING RESOLVED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

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THIS IS A. COMPLICATED IS NOT EVEN THE WORD FOR THIS TOPIC.

AND I WILL BE BRIEF AND STAYING ON POINT IN THE THE POINT OF OUR CONVERSATION TONIGHT IS TO EITHER MOVE FORWARD WITH CONVERSATION ON THIS OR NOT.

REGARDLESS OF HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE RESOLUTION ITSELF OR THE THE LANGUAGE OF IT OR WHETHER OR NOT IT'S OUR ROLE TO DO IT.

ONE THING I DO BELIEVE IN IS HAVING THE CONVERSATION AND MOVING IT FORWARD SO THAT ALL PERSPECTIVES CAN BE HEARD.

AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I WILL SUPPORT MOVING THIS FORWARD.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

THIS DEFINITELY IS A TOUGH ONE IN SO MANY WAYS.

I CAN DEFINITELY LOTS OF THINGS.

COME, COME TO MIND.

I WAS JUST IN GHANA THIS PAST DECEMBER AND I WENT TO THE SLAVE QUARTERS.

AND OF COURSE, THAT TRAUMA OF THOSE PEOPLE WAS VERY VIVID AT THAT TIME.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND HOW TRAUMA CAN BE GENERATIONAL.

AND EVEN WHEN YOU YOURSELF MAY NOT NECESSARILY EXPERIENCE IT.

I THINK IT'S PART OF YOUR DNA.

SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE WANT TO GIVE THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS TOO MUCH POWER.

SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

LOTS OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY SHOWED THIS COUNCIL.

THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE POWER THAT SOME THOUGHT WE HAD.

AND I THINK Y'ALL ALL KNOW WHERE I AM WITH THAT.

SO WHY DON'T WE TAKE ALL OF THOSE SIGNATURES THAT WE GOT TO PUT THAT REFERENDUM ON A BALLOT? AND DO THE SAME THING WITH WHATEVER IT IS WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS, WHAT, 25? HOW MANY SIGNATURES DID IT TAKE TO GET ON THE BALLOT? CITY CLERK, I'M NOT SURE.

HOWEVER MANY SIGNATURES THAT WERE YOU ARE CATCHING ME OFF GUARD.

I DO NOT RECALL.

I'M SORRY.

AND SOMEBODY KNOWS HOW MANY SIGNATURES IT TOOK TO GET ON THE BALLOT.

I DON'T REMEMBER OFFHAND.

AND WE CAN STILL HAVE A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION.

WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THIS COUNCIL TO HAVE A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION.

WE CAN HAVE THAT COMMUNITY CONVERSATION OURSELVES.

ALL WE NEED IS SOME GOOD FACILITATORS COME TOGETHER AND DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL.

AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO AGREE TO DISAGREE ON SOME ISSUES AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DISAGREEABLE.

ABOUT IT AND COLLECT ALL THOSE SIGNATURES AND SEND THOSE SIGNATURES TO OUR STATE.

OUR FEDERAL.

AND ANYWHERE ELSE WE THINK WE CAN SEND THOSE.

I THINK THAT SENDS A STRONGER MESSAGE THAN THE SEVEN OF US AS A CITY, BECAUSE THE 2500 SIGNATURES THAT WE GET, OR THE 5000 SIGNATURES THAT WE COLLECT MAKES, MAKES A REALLY STRONG STATEMENT.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY ALTERNATIVE TO US HAVING AS YOU WANT TO SAY, A DISCUSSION HERE ON THE DAIS, I THINK WE CAN STILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

AND SINCE I ACT AS A VOLUNTEER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, I WILL OFFER UP THE MURDOCH CENTER AS A PLACE TO HAVE THAT. IT IS A SACRED SPACE AND PEOPLE ARE DEFINITELY WELCOME TO USE THAT SPACE.

SO THAT'S MY COMMENT ON THAT.

THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I EXPECT TO REMAIN BRIEF, BECAUSE TONIGHT WE'RE WEIGHING IN ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD AGENDIZE A DISCUSSION.

OUR DISCUSSION WOULD COME LATER.

AND I WOULD HAVE MANY THOUGHTS TO SHARE ON THAT.

I'D ASK YOU NOT TO PRESUME TO KNOW WHAT I'D SHARE.

HONESTLY, MY VIEWS ON THIS TOPIC ARE COMPLEX.

THEY ARE EVOLVING, AND IN SOME WAYS, ADMITTEDLY, THEY'RE CONTRADICTORY.

BUT I THINK WE'RE ALL WALKING CONTRADICTIONS, SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

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YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PUBLIC PETITIONS LATELY, ALL OF WHICH HAVE NOT MOVED FORWARD.

I'M ON THE RECORD SUPPORTING FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FOR CONVERSATIONS REGARDING DENUCLEARIZATION AND SUPPORT FOR UKRAINE, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND I WOULD SAY THIS TOPIC IS AT LEAST AS IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT AS THOSE.

AND SO MY SUPPORT TO MOVE THE CONVERSATION FORWARD IS, IF NOTHING ELSE, MY ATTEMPT AT REMAINING CONSISTENT.

I'LL WRAP UP BY SAYING I'M VERY PLEASED BY THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TONIGHT.

AND ON ALL SIDES.

I WE WERE ALL VERY TRAUMATIZED BY HATE SPEECH A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT BEEN SUBJECT TO THAT, THOSE CONVERSATIONS, I'M HAPPY FOR YOU.

I THINK WE WERE ALL BRACING FOR A LOT OF UGLINESS TONIGHT.

AND THIS CONVERSATION WAS VERY MATURE.

I THINK IT HINTS AT THE FACT THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN TACKLE SOMETHING LIKE THIS RESPECTFULLY, AND THAT THERE WOULD BE VALUE IN DOING SO.

SO, WITHOUT MAKING ANY STATEMENTS.

ABOUT MY PARTICULAR MY PERSONAL VALUES ON THIS WHICH AGAIN.

ARE ARE NOT BLACK AND WHITE.

I DO THINK THAT THERE IS RELEVANCY TO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW.

AND I LEND MY VOICE AS THE THIRD AND DECIDING SUPPORTER OF MAKING SURE THIS GETS AGENDIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

SWEET. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT.

I HAVE TO SOME GREAT AREAS IN THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, DIGGING DEEP, I REACHED OUT TO SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND. JUST HAD SOME GOOD OPEN DIALOG.

AND I THINK WHERE I'M AT AND I DON'T NEED TO SAY YES OR NO BECAUSE IT IS MOVING FORWARD.

BUT I DO WANT TO STATE THAT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT A PIVOTAL POINT, NOT ONLY IN THE WORLD, BUT ALSO IN FLAGSTAFF.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DIVISIVE CONVERSATIONS, AND I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER.

AND I HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE AND FIGURE OUT WAYS TO AGREE TO DISAGREE.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER YOU DID MENTION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WITH THE HATE SPEECH, AND THAT WAS AWFUL, AND I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT AGAIN.

I SPOKE WITH DOCTOR EVANS, OUR PREVIOUS MAYOR, ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS MAYORS, AND SHE HAD FORMED A GROUP OF LEADERS THAT WERE RELIGIOUS IN NATURE AND ALSO WITH ONE OF OUR INTERFAITH COUNCILS, AND SHE HAD THEM AS SUPPORT SYSTEMS DURING TIMES LIKE THIS, WHERE WE ALL NEED TO COME TOGETHER AND HAVE GOOD, HONEST AND OPEN DIALOG.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I WOULD WANT TO FORM THAT AGAIN.

DOCTOR EVANS HAS ALSO SAID SHE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AND WOULD HELP ME.

SO IF THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN, PLEASE REACH OUT.

BUT I THINK NOW IS THE TIME THAT WE COME TOGETHER.

WE DO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND WE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO WORK TOGETHER ON A PATH FORWARD.

AND THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR BEING HERE.

AND THIS WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION TONIGHT.

AND I'M GOING TO GO HOME AND SLEEP WELL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO THIS IS MOVING FORWARD AND WE WILL LET STAFF WILL LET US KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE ON AN AGENDA.

I THANK YOU AS WELL FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

AND THERE WERE SOME REALLY MOVING COLLECTIONS OF WORDS THAT WERE SHARED WITH US TONIGHT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THE HONORABLE AND COMPASSIONATE WAY THAT EVERYONE CONDUCTED THEMSELVES.

AND I WILL EXPECT THAT SAME FROM ANY FUTURE DISCUSSIONS.

SO THANK YOU.

AND I'M GOING TO GIVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES FOR YOU ALL TO CLEAR OUT IF YOU WANT TO.

YOU CAN STAY FOR THE REST OF THIS, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO SO NOW.

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WE HAVE NO ONE FOR OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC, CORRECT? CORRECT, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, SO ITEM NUMBER 15.

[15. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS TO/FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL, AND STAFF, AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS]

INFORMATIONAL ITEMS TWO FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF, AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS.

LET'S START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

NOTHING FOR ME TONIGHT.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY. COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SWEET.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I WAS REALLY HOPING TO BE IN HAWAII TODAY ON MY 50TH, BUT I AM TRULY VERY HONORED AND BLESSED TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL.

AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING TONIGHT SO SPECIAL.

THANKS, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TONIGHT.

VICE MAYOR. YEAH.

I'LL I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE.

PUBLIC PORTION OF THE.

POLICE CHIEF. RICK NOT RECRUITMENT PROCESS, BUT WE ARE HIRING A NEW POLICE CHIEF.

WE HAVE SEVERAL CANDIDATES COMING INTO TOWN.

I IMAGINE MANY OF THEM ARE IN HOTELS OR HOTEL ROOMS TONIGHT.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PROCESS TOMORROW OF BEING A PART OF HEARING WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND GETTING A SENSE OF THEIR VISION FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I, I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THEN WE CUT TWO FROM SHORT, SO I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO.

AND I THINK THAT'S FINE.

BUT I SUPPOSE I MIGHT AS WELL BRING IT UP TONIGHT.

LAST WEEK, I WAS IN BOSTON WITH MY FAMILY ON SPRING BREAK, AND I HAD BEEN REFLECTING UPON THE FACT THAT I'VE ACTUALLY MISSED EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEETING SINCE BEING ON COUNCIL.

DURING THE SPRING BREAK WEEK IN MARCH.

AND IT GOT ME TO THINKING YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FOLKS ON COUNCIL RIGHT NOW IN THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT THAT HAVE SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN.

BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF FOLKS ON CITY STAFF AND IN LEADERSHIP WHO DO IT MIGHT BE WORTH LOOKING INTO TAKING A WEEK RECESS DURING THAT COINCIDES WITH THE FUSD CALENDAR IN THE MONTH OF IN THE MONTH OF MARCH.

IN THE FUTURE, NOTHING THAT I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, STICK MY FLAG TO OR ANYTHING, BUT JUST A THOUGHT THAT I THINK IS, IS WORTH CONSIDERING.

AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AT SOME POINT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

YES, I'M EXCITED FOR TOMORROW MORNING, 815 TO 5:00.

I'LL BE INTERVIEWING CANDIDATES FOR THE POLICE CHIEF IN MY OTHER ROLE AS A SOUTH SIDE REPRESENTATIVE.

SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I'M NOT SURE MY PUPPY IS GOING TO BE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO? AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL IS THAT I'VE BEEN SELECTED TO RECEIVE THE DIGITAL EQUITY.

INSTITUTE AWARD FOR A COMMUNITY CHAMPION AT THAT GALA ON MONDAY NIGHT, AND SO I WILL BE AT PHOENIX TO RECEIVE THAT AWARD, WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF SPECIAL AND VERY UNEXPECTED.

SO. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO I FORMED A MEETING WITH THE C.C.C.

PRESIDENT AND SOME OF THEIR STAFF AND SOME LOCAL BUSINESS PEOPLE TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND LOCAL BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY COLLEGE PARTNERSHIPS.

AND IT WENT REALLY WELL, AND WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT DISCUSSIONS.

AND AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE WHERE THAT GOES.

ALSO HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING A TOUR WITH CATALYST.

SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN ON THAT TOUR AND THEY'RE JUST SO FANTASTIC.

AND IT WAS GREAT.

I ASKED TONY, IS THAT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE HIS NAME? GANG? HE HOW DOES OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND COST OF HOUSING AFFECT HIS STAFFING AND STUFF?

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IT'S THE INVENTORY.

SO IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE TO LOOK AT IT.

BUT WHAT AN EXCITING COMPANY THAT STARTED WITH THE SOME BUSINESS INCENTIVES THAT WE GIVE OUT FOUR YEARS AGO, AND NOW THEY'RE A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH IN SPACE AND ON EARTH.

AND THEN LASTLY I'M SO CONFUSED.

YOU KNOW, THE THE CITY ATTORNEY SCHOOLED US, SOME OF US, I GUESS, BEFORE THIS MEETING, SAYING THAT TONIGHT WAS NOT A DISCUSSION NIGHT.

JUST A YES. LET'S MOVE IT FORWARD OR NO.

SO I, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING MORE ABOUT IT.

I'LL HOLD IT UNTIL WE HAVE IT AGENDIZED.

BUT I WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW THE THE RULES OF THE LAND.

ANYWAY, I'LL HAVE MY CLAIM TO FAME, I GUESS WHEN IT GOES TO THE AGENDA.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

A WELL DESERVED HONOR.

I TOO, WILL BE INTERVIEWING SPEAKING TO POTENTIAL POLICE CHIEFS TOMORROW MORNING.

AND I WANT TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT AT 5:00 TOMORROW, THERE IS A MEET AND GREET WITH ALL OF THE CANDIDATES, AND IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. AND IT'S HERE AT CITY HALL.

5:00 SATURDAY AT 2 P.M.

IS HIGH COUNTRY HUMAINES FIFTH ANNIVERSARY PARTY.

AND ALSO THE VIOLA AWARDS AT THE ORPHEUM.

I AM AN MC OF THE VIOLA AWARDS, SO I HAVE AN EVENT THAT IS EQUALLY AS LONG. REHEARSAL THE DAY BEFORE FOR THAT EVENT.

ANYWAY, SO IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD TIME AND I HOPE I HOPE MANY PEOPLE CAN MAKE IT.

IT'S ALWAYS SOLD OUT.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T PURCHASED YOUR TICKETS YET, YOU BETTER DO IT QUICKLY.

AND THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE.