Jun 04, 2024 City Council Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this regular meeting, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for discussion and consultation with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]

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IT'S TUESDAY, JUNE 4TH, 2024.

WELCOME TO THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER, GIVING NOTICE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT AT THIS MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY'S ATTORNEYS FOR LEGAL ADVICE ON ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA.

CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL? . COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WOULD BE MY HONOR.

PLEASE STAND IF ABLE.

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THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THIS AREA'S INDIGENOUS NATIONS AND ORIGINAL STEWARDS.

THESE LANDS, STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS, BORDERS MOUNTAINS SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.

WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.

WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE AS HOME.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE DOWN TO OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC.

[4. OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC Open Call to the Public enables the public to address the Council about an item that is not on the prepared agenda. Comments relating to items that are on the agenda will be taken at the time that the item is discussed. Open Call to the Public appears on the agenda twice, at the beginning and at the end. The total time allotted for the first Open Call to the Public is 30 minutes; any additional comments will be held until the second Open Call to the Public. If you wish to address the Council in person at today's meeting, please complete a comment card and submit it to the recording clerk as soon as possible. Your name will be called when it is your turn to speak. You may address the Council up to three times throughout the meeting, including comments made during Open Call to the Public and Public Comment. Please limit your remarks to three minutes per item to allow everyone an opportunity to speak. At the discretion of the Chair, ten or more persons present at the meeting and wishing to speak may appoint a representative who may have no more than fifteen minutes to speak.]

THE. DURING OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC, THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT ABLE TO ADDRESS YOU OR RESPOND TO YOU.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, AND THERE IS A TIMER RIGHT HERE.

AND THE COMMENT CARDS ARE IN THE BACK.

DENNIS GIVENS.

THANKS A LOT, MAYOR DAGGETT, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, THE CITIZENS.

MY NAME IS DENNIS GIVENS OF THE SOUTH SIDE.

I'M ALSO A CO-FOUNDER OF JUSTICE NEWS.

IT'S OPPOSITE OF FAKE NEWS.

AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT DIVESTING FROM WELLS FARGO.

AND I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY READING SOME QUOTES FROM PAST US PRESIDENTS.

THE FIRST ONE IS FROM THOMAS JEFFERSON.

IT GOES, IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVER ALLOW PRIVATE BANKS TO CONTROL THE ISSUE OF THEIR CURRENCY FIRST BY INFLATION, THEN BY DEFLATION, THE BANKS AND CORPORATIONS THAT WILL GROW UP AROUND THE BANKS WILL DEPRIVE THE PEOPLE OF ALL THEIR PROPERTY UNTIL THEIR CHILDREN WAKE UP HOMELESS ON THE CONTINENT THEIR FATHERS CONQUERED.

THE ISSUING POWERS SHOULD BE TAKEN FROM THE BANKS AND RESTORED TO THE PEOPLE TO WHOM IT PROPERLY BELONGS.

I SINCERELY BELIEVE THAT BANKING ESTABLISHMENTS ARE MORE DANGEROUS THAN STANDING ARMIES, AND THAT THE PRINCIPLE OF SPENDING MONEY TO BE PAID BY FUTURE GENERATIONS UNDER THE NAME OF FUNDING IS SWINDLING ON A LARGE SCALE.

ANDREW JACKSON STATED THE BANKS ARE TRYING TO KILL US, BUT I WILL KILL IT.

THE MONEY POWERS PREY UPON THE NATION IN TIME OF PEACE AND CONSPIRE AGAINST IT IN A TIME OF ADVERSITY.

IT IS MORE DESPOTIC THAN A MONARCHY, MORE INSULIN THAN AUTOCRACY, AND MORE SELFISH THAN BUREAUCRACY.

IT DENOUNCES AS IT DENOUNCES AS PUBLIC ENEMIES ALL WHO QUESTIONS ITS METHODS OR THROW LIGHT UPON ITS CRIMES.

ABRAHAM LINCOLN.

SOME PEOPLE MAY WANT TO DIVEST FROM WELLS FARGO DUE TO THE BANK'S HISTORY OF UNETHICAL PRACTICES, INCLUDING ILLEGAL PRACTICES.

MORE THAN 16 MILLION ACCOUNTS WERE AFFECTED BY MISAPPLIED PAYMENTS, WRONGFUL FORECLOSURES, AND INCORRECT FEES AND INTEREST CHARGES.

ALSO UNAUTHORIZED ACCOUNTS.

EMPLOYEES OPENED MILLIONS OF UNAUTHORIZED ACCOUNTS IN CUSTOMERS NAMES WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT.

IDENTITY THEFT.

CUSTOMERS IDENTITIES WERE STOLEN, WHICH CAN IMPACT THEIR CREDIT SCORE AND ABILITY TO GET LOANS IN THE FUTURE, AND ALSO, THEY ARE FUNDING FOSSIL FUELS.

WELLS FARGO IS ONE OF THE MANY BANKS THAT HAS BEEN CRITICIZED FOR FUNDING FOSSIL FUELS, WHILE THE CLIMATE CRISIS WORSENED.

ALLEGEDLY, DO THEY ALSO DEAL WITH SKETCHY COMPANIES? BLACKROCK AND VANGUARD ARE THE TWO LARGEST SHAREHOLDERS OF WELLS FARGO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT BLACKROCK AND VANGUARD DO, BUT WE SHOULD ALL LOOK IT UP AND SEE IF WE LIKE THEM.

WHAT I GOT 50S.

OH. THIS WEEK I'LL BE RUNNING MORNING GLORY CAFE BECAUSE THE OWNER IS GETTING SURGERY.

IF YOU MENTION THIS AD, I WILL GIVE YOU A DISCOUNT.

SO PLEASE COME ON IN, GET YOUR FIBER AND LAY OFF THE SUGAR AND START EATING MORE VEGETABLES.

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SHE SUGGESTED THAT COPS SHOULD BE ON BIKES, AND I THINK THIS WOULD SAVE SOME MONEY ON THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES IF THEY'RE ALL ON BIKES.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HOT, BUT IT'LL BE REALLY GOOD FOR THEM, AND THEY'LL BE INGRAINED WITHIN THE SOCIETY INSTEAD OF LIKE ON THE ROADS.

SO MAYBE COPS ON BIKES WOULD BE COOL BECAUSE WE ALL LOVE OUR COPS.

GO COPS! BUT I'M NOT A BOOTLICKER.

BUT I LOVE COPS. ALL RIGHT, HAVE A GOOD DAY, EVERYONE.

TAKE CARE. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING DOWN TO PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY.

[A. Proclamation: Gun Violence Awareness Day]

EVERY DAY, 120 AMERICANS ARE KILLED BY GUN VIOLENCE AND MORE THAN 200 ARE SHOT AND WOUNDED, WITH AN AVERAGE OF NEARLY 18,000-GUN HOMICIDES EVERY YEAR.

AMERICANS ARE 26 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DIE BY GUN HOMICIDE THAN PEOPLE IN OTHER HIGH-INCOME COUNTRIES.

ARIZONA HAS 1290 GUN DEATHS EVERY YEAR, WITH A RATE OF 17.2 DEATHS PER 100,000 PEOPLE, A CRISIS THAT COSTS THE STATE $15.9 BILLION EACH YEAR, OF WHICH 253.2 MILLION IS PAID BY TAXPAYERS.

ARIZONA HAS THE 18TH HIGHEST RATE OF GUN DEATHS IN THE US.

SUPPORT FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS GO HAND IN HAND WITH KEEPING GUNS AWAY FROM PEOPLE WITH DANGEROUS HISTORIES.

MAYORS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LOCAL VIOLENCE INTERVENTION ACTIVISTS AND RESOURCES KNOW THEIR COMMUNITIES BEST, ARE ON THE MOST FAMILIAR WITH LOCAL, ARE THE MOST FAMILIAR WITH LOCAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND HOW TO ADDRESS IT AND ARE BEST POSITIONED TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO KEEP THEIR CITIZENS SAFE. GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER, AS WE SEE AN INCREASE IN FIREARM HOMICIDES AND NON-FATAL SHOOTINGS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, INCREASED CALLS TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOTLINES AND AN INCREASE IN CITY GUN VIOLENCE.

IN JANUARY 2013.

HADIYA PENDLETON WAS TRAGICALLY SHOT AND KILLED AT AGE 15 AND ON JUNE 7TH, 2024, TO RECOGNIZE THE 27TH BIRTHDAY OF HADIYA PENDLETON, BORN JUNE 2ND, 1997.

PEOPLE ACROSS THE UNITED STATES WILL RECOGNIZE NATIONAL GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY AND WEAR ORANGE IN TRIBUTE TO HADIYA PENDLETON AND OTHER VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE AND THE LOVED ONES OF THOSE VICTIMS. THE IDEA WAS INSPIRED BY A GROUP OF HADIYA'S FRIENDS WHO ASKED THEIR CLASSMATES TO COMMEMORATE HER LIFE BY WEARING ORANGE.

THEY CHOSE THIS COLOR BECAUSE HUNTERS WEAR ORANGE TO ANNOUNCE THEMSELVES TO OTHER HUNTERS WHEN OUT IN THE WOODS, AND ORANGE IS A COLOR THAT SYMBOLIZES THE VALUE OF HUMAN LIFE.

ANYONE CAN JOIN THIS CAMPAIGN BY PLEDGING TO WEAR ORANGE ON JUNE 7TH, THE FIRST FRIDAY IN JUNE 2024, TO HELP RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE BY WEARING ORANGE.

ON JUNE 7TH, 2024, AMERICANS WILL RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE AND HONOR THE LIVES OF GUN VIOLENCE VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT I, MAYOR BECKY DAGGETT OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, DECLARE THE FIRST FRIDAY IN JUNE 7TH, 2024, TO BE NATIONAL GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY.

I ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO SUPPORT THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITIES' EFFORTS TO PREVENT THE TRAGIC EFFECTS OF GUN VIOLENCE, AND TO HONOR AND VALUE HUMAN LIVES.

YES, YES.

LET'S GET A PICTURE FIRST.

THANKS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR DAGGETT AND CITY COUNCIL, FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO END GUN VIOLENCE AND ALSO FOR RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANT ROLE YOU PLAY IN KEEPING

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I'D LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE HERE AND ONLINE TO WEAR ORANGE ON FRIDAY, AND ALSO TO JOIN OUR MOMS DEMAND ACTION BLOOD DRIVE THIS SATURDAY AT THE ICE HOUSE FROM BETWEEN 12 AND 4.

AND I WANT TO ALSO GIVE YOU AS LAST PART TWO EASY WEBSITES.

ONE IS WEARORANGE.ORG, WHERE YOU CAN FIND WAYS TO PARTICIPATE MORE IN GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY AND EVENTS LIKE OUR BLOOD DRIVE AND ALSO OUR MOMSDEMANDACTION.ORG WEBSITE WHERE OUR MEETINGS ARE LISTED.

WE MEET REGULARLY MONTHLY, USUALLY AT ONE OF THE COMMUNITY LIBRARIES, AND IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT MORE AND WAYS THAT YOU CAN BE INVOLVED, PLEASE JOIN US.

THANK YOU ALL.

OH.

[6. COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS]

AND I'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

NOTHING FOR ME THIS WEEK.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER.

SWEET. NOTHING FOR ME.

THANK YOU. NOTHING.

THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR.

I HAD TWO MEETINGS THIS PAST MONTH THAT WERE CANCELED BECAUSE OF QUORUM ISSUES.

WE DID MEET THE COCONINO PLATEAU WATER ADVISORY COUNCIL ON FRIDAY MORNING.

IT WAS A VERY NICE MEETING.

LOTS OF PREP FOR OUR UPCOMING.

UPCOMING OUR SEPTEMBER FIELD TRIP.

AND ALSO, A NICE, REALLY NICE PRESENTATION FROM THE GRAND CANYON COMMUNITY TRUST ON SPRING OBSERVATIONS WITHIN THE GRAND CANYON FROM THE SPRING STEWARDSHIP INSTITUTE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO REPORT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I THINK SOME OF US, AT LEAST I WILL BE ATTENDING THE TIMBER SKY GROUND.

GROUNDBREAKING ON.

I THINK IT'S THURSDAY.

IS IT THURSDAY OR FRIDAY? FRIDAY? FRIDAY.

OKAY. AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I INVITE EVERYONE TO JUNETEENTH ACTIVITIES.

THERE'S A GALA FRIDAY NIGHT.

TICKETS ARE STILL AVAILABLE.

AND THEN THE FESTIVAL IS SUNDAY.

I MEAN, SATURDAY AND THEN SUNDAY IS JUST A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION, A COMMUNITY TALK.

AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT I WANT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO MOUNTAIN LION.

THEY'VE INSTITUTED THEIR SUMMER YOUTH PASS.

AND SO, KIDS CAN, BETWEEN THE AGES OF SEVEN AND 17, CAN GET A PASS FOR $24.

AND THEY CAN RIDE ALL OVER THE CITY PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE.

I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S A CURFEW ON THAT OR NOT, BUT AND IT'S A GREAT WAY TO TEACH KIDS RESPONSIBILITY IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

AND SO, I JUST WANT TO SAY KUDOS TO MOUNTAIN LION FOR DOING THAT.

THANK YOU, MOUNTAIN LION. THAT'S IT FOR ME.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. NOTHING FROM ME AS WELL.

SO, WE'LL MOVE DOWN TO APPOINTMENTS.

AND BEFORE WE JUMP INTO APPOINTMENTS, WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANTHONY GARCIA.

HELLO, MADAM. MAYOR.

VICE MAYOR ASLIN, COUNCIL MANAGEMENT AND STAFF.

I AM ANTHONY GARCIA.

2212 NORTH CENTER STREET, FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA.

THE BEAUTY OF APPOINTMENTS IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, LIKE, A NEW SET OF EYES AND EARS FOCUSED ON SOME NEW TOPICS HERE AT THE DAIS FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION OF PUBLIC ART COMMISSION. AND WHILE IT'S THE BEGINNING OF AN ERA FOR SOME, FOR ME, IT'S THE END OF AN ERA.

I STARTED IN 2016.

AND I MIGHT BE WRONG ABOUT THIS, JIM, BUT I THINK YOU'RE THE ONE WHO APPOINTED ME.

AND AT THE TIME YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE ARTS DIRECTOR AT THAT TIME, MARK D'ALESSIO, WOULD HAVE SAID THINGS LIKE, OH, ANTHONY'S A GREAT CITIZEN AND AN EXCELLENT ART ADVOCATE. BUT HIS LINE FOR ME WAS, WE REALLY NEED PEOPLE IN THIS SEAT BECAUSE NOBODY APPLIES FOR IT.

SO, I WAS JUST KIND OF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME ON TO THE ART COMMISSION AT THAT TIME.

AND AT THAT TIME, WE HAD ONE HALF OF A STAFF MEMBER THAT DID ALL THE WORK, AND HALF TIME THEY DID PARKING.

THE OTHER TIME THEY DID ARTS AND BEAUTIFICATION, AND WE HAD A LONG WAY TO GO WITH LITTLE DIRECTION FROM LITTLE PLACES, BUT NOT A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS GETTING STEERED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AFTER ABOUT A YEAR, I BECAME THE CHAIR OF THE BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ART COMMISSION, AND I WANTED TO GIVE A HUGE KUDOS TO STAFF DAVID MCINTYRE AND

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BECAUSE THEY REALLY LISTENED TO THE PUBLIC.

I HAVE NOTHING MORE THAN A MAN WITH AN OPINION THAT WAS BORN IN FLAGSTAFF, BUT YET THEY SAT ME DOWN AND ASKED, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THIS DEPARTMENT BETTER? AND OVER A YEAR, OVER A YEAR AND A HALF OF CONVERSATIONS, THEY TOOK MY WORDS THAT WERE REALLY THE COMMISSION'S WORDS.

I JUST HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THEM, BUT IT WAS KIND OF IN THE AIR THAT CHANGE NEEDED TO HAPPEN.

AND WE MADE WHAT IS NOW THE MOST VIBRANT, ONE OF THE MORE VIBRANT DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY THAT WE ARE SO PROUD OF AND REALLY ENHANCED CAPITAL PROJECTS. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AT ONE TIME WE KIND OF HAD TO SHOEHORN OUR WAY INTO CAPITAL PROJECTS AND KIND OF AND KIND OF ASK TO BE THERE.

AND NOW THEY'RE COMING TO US AND ASKING US IF WE COULD BE THERE.

SO, I'VE SEEN THE MATURATION OF THE PROGRAM THROUGH FROM MARK D'ALLESIO TO ELIZA SMITH TO JANNA WELDING TURN INTO SOMETHING THAT'S THAT I'M REALLY PROUD TO SEE IN THE CITY.

AND I THINK THAT MAKES THE CITY A BETTER PLACE FOR US ALL TO LIVE.

WHEN YOU CONNECT CULTURE, WHEN YOU ADD COLOR, WHEN YOU'RE LISTENING TO VOICES OF THE CREATIVE COMMUNITY AND INVESTING INTO THE CREATIVE COMMUNITY YOU REALLY ADD A SPICE OF LIFE TO THIS CITY THAT BRINGS US FROM THE PAST, TELLS US STORIES FROM THE PAST, AND IT ALSO SHOWS US THE WAY INTO A BETTER LIFE IN THE FUTURE.

FROM HERE, I GOT TO RUN TO A MEETING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE SETTING UP A 3D ART THING NEXT TO THE MURDOCH CENTER AND THEN TO THE REGIONAL PLAN.

AND WITHOUT THAT, WITHOUT THE WITHOUT BEING THANK YOU PACK, I WOULD HAVE NOT HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU. ANTHONY.

OKAY. SO, MOVING INTO APPOINTMENTS.

[A. Consideration of Appointments: Beautification and Public Art Commission. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Make three appointments to terms expiring June 2027. ]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO REAPPOINT CARLA MCCORD.

I'M NOT SURE THE TERM.

JUNE 2027.

JUNE 2027.

I'LL SECOND ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? COUNCIL MEMBER. HARRIS.

I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE HAD A NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS, WHICH IS ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE.

I WANTED WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE APPOINTMENTS, I WANTED TO LOOK AT BRINGING ON SOME NEW EYES INTO ONTO THE COMMITTEE. AND THAT'S BEEN MY GOAL.

AND ALL OF OUR COMMITTEES ARE JUST BRINGING DIFFERENT VOICES TO THE TABLE.

THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID ABOUT CONTINUITY, AND I THINK CARLA IS GOING TO DO THAT AND ROLE THAT SHE PLAYS.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT MICHAEL ROWLAND TO THAT, TO A TERM ENDING.

AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK STACEY TO GIVE ME JUNE 2027.

JUNE 2027.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I FIRST OF ALL LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAD, WHAT, FOUR, SEVEN APPLICANTS? AND THEY'RE ALL VERY QUALIFIED.

WE WOULD BE WELL SERVED BY ANY OF THOSE SEVEN.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPOINT.

MATT MCGRATH TO A TERM EXPIRING IN JUNE 2027.

I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

[A. Consideration and Action on Liquor License Application: Mikal Charles Antunez, "D-Luxe Barbershop," 18 N. Leroux Street, Series 07 (Beer and Wine Bar), Location/Owner Transfer STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Forward the application to the State with a recommendation for approval; Forward the application to the State with a recommendation for denial based on the testimony received at the public hearing and/or other factors.]

I AM FIRST GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND I BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF.

HELLO AND WELCOME.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS NICK ARMENDARIZ.

I'M A FLAGSTAFF POLICE SERGEANT.

AND BEFORE YOU TODAY TO PRESENT A NEW LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION.

THIS IS FOR AN OWNER TRANSFER.

SERIES SEVEN BEER AND WINE BAR LIQUOR LICENSE AT DELUXE BARBERSHOP, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 18 NORTH LARUE STREET HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.

THE APPLICATION WAS FILED BY MICHAEL ANTUNES, WHO IS THE AGENT AND CONTROLLING PERSON.

IN MY INVESTIGATION, I DISCOVERED NO DEROGATORY RECORDS ON THE APPLICANT AND NO CURRENT OR HISTORICAL LIQUOR VIOLATIONS ON THE BUSINESS.

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HE HAS TAKEN THE MANDATORY LIQUOR LICENSE TRAINING.

HE'S PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER. HARRIS.

OKAY, SO CAN YOU TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A BARBER SHOP AND A LIQUOR LICENSE? I DON'T I MEAN, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HEARD OF THAT BEFORE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN OTHER PLACES.

SO I'M NOT TOO SURE ABOUT THE BUSINESS MODEL.

SOUNDS LIKE A PLACE WHERE YOU COULD GET A GOOD BUZZ.

OH SINCE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ONLINE OR PRESENT, IS THE APPLICANT ONLINE OR PRESENT? HE IS PRESENT. PRESENT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME DOWN AND ADDRESS THAT FOR COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? SO, JUST AS YOU SAID, PLACE TO GET A BUZZ.

NO, REALLY. THEY THEY DO OFFER IT A LOT IN BIGGER CITIES.

I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT HERE TO THE TOWN, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SHOPS THAT DO IT ILLEGALLY, SO I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

SO. I WAS JUST GOING TO COMMENT THAT IN MY PAST LIVES, BEFORE I MOVED HERE, IT WAS VERY COMMON FOR GOING TO GET OUR HAIR DONE AND HAVING A GLASS OF WINE, RIGHT? SO YEAH, IT'S KIND OF A THING.

LIKE I SAID, THEY DO IT IN SALONS AND NAIL SALONS, SO IT'D BE COOL TO GIVE THE BARBERSHOP ENVIRONMENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

AND SO I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IN A BARBERSHOP, WHO'S GOING TO WHO'S GOING TO BE SERVING PEOPLE AND WHO'S GOING TO BE CHECKING IDS AND ALL OF THAT OTHER KIND OF STUFF.

SO I HAVE A GOOD TEAM.

WE ALL HAD WE ALL TALKED ABOUT THIS.

SO BASICALLY THE WAY MY BUSINESS IS SET UP IS THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, TWO DIFFERENT DOORS.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIDE FOR THE BAR AND THE SIDE FOR THE BARBERSHOP.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WE'RE GOING TO GET TRAINED IN ID, WHICH I'VE BEEN TRAINED ALREADY FOR THE MANAGEMENT PART.

SO BASICALLY IF YOU'RE OVER 21, YOU GET A WRISTBAND AND THEN YOU STICK TO THAT ONE SIDE.

TO, YOU KNOW, DRINK BEFORE OR AFTER YOUR HAIRCUT.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO CO-MINGLE AT ALL.

THANK YOU. THE REPORT SAID THAT YOU HAD NOT COMPLETED YOUR TRAINING.

I PRESUME THAT MAYBE YOU GOT IT DONE SINCE THIS REPORT WAS WRITTEN.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.

SO I COMPLETED THE FIRST HALF, WHICH IS THE JUST THE BASIC TRAINING.

AND THEN AND THEN I GUESS I HAD TO DO THE MANAGEMENT AS WELL.

SO YOU CAN'T DO ONE OR THE OTHER.

YOU HAVE TO DO BOTH. SO I BASICALLY HAD TO DO THE BASIC TRAINING TWICE IN ORDER TO DO THE MANAGEMENT.

SO I HAVE THEM BOTH HERE PRESENTED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THAT IS CORRECT, MAYOR.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNCIL. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO FORWARD THE APPLICATION.

OR NOT. MADAM MAYOR, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FORWARD THE APPLICATION TO THE STATE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. GOOD LUCK.

THANK YOU. YOU CAN HAVE THIS.

COOL. THANK YOU. NICE TO MEET YOU.

[9. CONSENT AGENDA All matters under Consent Agenda are considered by the City Council to be routine. Unless a member of City Council expresses a desire at the meeting to remove an item from the Consent Agenda for discussion, the Consent Agenda will be enacted by one motion approving the recommendations listed on the agenda. Unless otherwise indicated, expenditures approved by Council are budgeted items. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve the Consent Agenda as posted.]

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS WOULD LIKE TO PULL A COUPLE OF ITEMS. YES, I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEMS A AS IN APPLE AND E AS IN ELEPHANT.

OKAY. AND WE TAKE A MOTION FOR THIS RIGHT TO PULL IT.

NO, NOT TO PULL IT.

NO, NOT TO PULL IT. ALL RIGHT.

GREAT. SO THEN I WILL.

IF THERE ARE NO OTHER ITEMS TO BE PULLED, I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS NINE, EIGHT AND NINE, I MEAN NINE A AND NINE E.

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ITEMS NINE B THROUGH D AND F AND G AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. GREAT.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

SO, COUNCIL MEMBER DO YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT NINE A AND E AND WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT?

[A. Consideration and Approval of Contract: Purchase of two (2) 10-Wheel Snowplow Dump Trucks from RWC Group LLC STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approve the equipment purchase for two (2) 2025 International HX520 SFA Heavy Duty plow trucks from RWC Group, LLC in the amount of $782,210.11 through cooperative purchase contract #CTR069476 with the Arizona Department of Administration, State procurement office and; Authorize the City Manager to execute the necessary documents.]

AND SO THE NEW TRUCKS THAT WE'RE GETTING AND I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH. YOU'RE HERE.

THESE ARE NEW.

WE HAVEN'T HAD THEM BEFORE.

CORRECT. OR HOW ARE THEY GOING TO PERFORM? I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE.

AND I'M SURE THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE YOUR RESEARCH.

SO I'M, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE PROFESSIONAL, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE THOUGHT IT THROUGH.

YEAH. FOR SURE. NO, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN.

HARRIS. THESE WILL BE A REPLACEMENT TO TRUCKS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

THE TRUCKS THAT WE'VE ORDERED ARE VERY SIMILAR, IF NOT CLOSE TO THE EXACT SPEC THAT WE ORDERED ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.

WE'VE HAD THOSE IN THE FLEET.

THEY'VE TESTED OUT REALLY WELL.

IN FACT, WE HAD TO MAKE SEVERAL ITERATIONS TO THE SPEC WHEN WE ORDERED DUMP TRUCKS.

THEY ACTUALLY GET BUILT TO OUR SPEC, NOT JUST A CANNED PRODUCT OFF THE SHOWROOM FLOOR.

BUT YEAH, THEY THEY SHOULD BE BUILT TO OUR SPEC TO MEET OUR EXPECTATIONS.

SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. THAT WOULD BE THE HOPE.

THAT WOULD BE THE HOPE. KNOCK WOOD.

EXACTLY. BECAUSE WE GET ANOTHER 39IN.

SORRY. YEAH.

AND THIS IS TWO OF FOUR.

THE OTHER TWO WILL COME TO YOU AFTER BREAK.

OKAY. AND SO THAT WAS ALL I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION, MAYOR.

KELLY AND BUZZ, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT E?

[E. Consideration and Approval of Contract: Approval of the Cooperative Purchase Contract with PFVT Motors, LLC dba Peoria Ford for the purchase of Four 2023 Ford Explorer Police Interceptors for the Flagstaff Police Department in the amount of $211,955.44. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Approval of the Cooperative Purchase Contract with PFVT Motors, LLC dba Peoria Ford for the purchase of Four 2023 Ford Explorer Police Interceptors for the Flagstaff Police Department in the amount of $211,955.44; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the necessary documents.]

I JUST WANTED TO.

YEAH. CHIEF, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.

AND THANK YOU TO WHOEVER ELSE DECIDED THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE I CONSIDER THIS AN EMERGENCY.

ANYTIME WE NEED NEW VEHICLES AND BECAUSE WE'RE DOWN WHATEVER IS AVAILABLE, WE HAVE TO TAKE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE RESPONSE TIME TO BE LESSENED.

AND WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO PUT OUR CITIZENS IN HARM'S WAY.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR CLIMATE EMERGENCY, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

BUT THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS ALWAYS COMES FIRST OVER EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST SAY THAT IT WASN'T YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUT ANOTHER DEPARTMENT THAT RESPONDED TO A MEDICAL EMERGENCY THAT I HAD.

AND SO THAT'S AT THE FRONT OF MY MIND.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT.

AND THAT WAS ALL I HAD TO SAY.

I JUST WANTED TO TO JUST MAKE THAT COMMENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PUBLIC COMMENTERS.

FIRST UP IS JILL STEVENSON.

I'M JILL STEVENSON.

GLAD TO SEE YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH YOU AGAIN.

IF WE ARE TRULY AIMING TO REACH THE GOAL OF CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030, SHOULDN'T WE BE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE IN THAT DIRECTION? WE DO APPLAUD THE ACTIONS THAT THE CITY IS MAKING TO OFFSET OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT.

BUT SINCE TRANSITIONING THE CITY'S FLEET TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES IS PART OF THAT PLAN.

I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHY ALL NEW VEHICLES PURCHASED ARE NOT ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

WE KNOW THERE ARE ELECTRIC POLICE CARS AND DUMP TRUCKS AVAILABLE WITH MANY OPTIONS, AND I WOULD THINK WITH SOME PLANNING AHEAD THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BE ORDERED.

THERE'S CERTAINLY MONEY ENOUGH IN THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT.

THERE ARE MANY CHARGING STATIONS IN AND AROUND FLAGSTAFF.

WHAT IS THE HOLD UP? OUR OPTIONS BEING PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL.

AND IF NOT, WHY NOT? WE NEED TO PROCEED TOWARDS NET ZERO CARBON AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

THE SCIENTISTS ARE TELLING US THIS.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

PHOENIX. ESKRIDGE.

ALDAMA. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL.

FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIRELESS WORK AND KEEPING FLAGSTAFF CLEAN, SAFE AND BEAUTIFUL.

BIG THANK YOU TO OUR POLICE FORCE.

I'M FROM TUCSON, AND JUST THE PEACE OF MIND OF BEING ABLE TO FEEL SAFE WALKING AROUND TOWN IS LIKE.

IT'S SO VALUABLE TO ME.

SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

YOUR COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY IS EVIDENT, AND WE ALL BENEFIT FROM THE POSITIVE IMPACT OF YOUR EFFORTS.

I AM A SECOND YEAR PHD STUDENT IN THE SCHOOL OF EARTH AND SUSTAINABILITY AT NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY, AS WELL AS A REGISTERED FLAGSTAFF VOTER AND CONCERNED CITIZEN.

I CURRENTLY TEACH THE GENERAL EDUCATION COURSE INV 115 CLIMATE CHANGE AT NIU, AND MY RESEARCH FOCUSES ON BARRIERS TO CLIMATE ACTION IN ARIZONA.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE FLAGSTAFF CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN, WHICH AMBITIOUSLY AIMS FOR OUR CITY TO ACHIEVE CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030.

THIS GOAL IS VITAL FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CHILDREN, AND OUR PLANET.

HOWEVER, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SEVERAL AGENDA ITEMS THAT DO NOT ALIGN WITH OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOAL.

FIRST, THE PROPOSED PURCHASE OF FOUR POLICE CARS WITH CLEAR STATEMENTS THAT THESE WILL NOT BE ELECTRIC VEHICLES IS TROUBLING, CONSIDERING THAT EV VERSIONS OF THESE VEHICLES ARE AVAILABLE AND USED BY OTHER CITIES.

ADDITIONALLY, WITH REGARD TO THE BANK PROCUREMENT ISSUE, I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO GO WITH OPTION THREE AND AVOID DIRTY BANKS SUCH AS WELLS FARGO AS CONTINUING OUR ALLEGIANCE WITH THESE POLLUTERS. SUPPORTING ENTITIES NOT ONLY RUINS FLAGSTAFF'S REPUTATION OF BEING CLEAN, NATURAL, BEAUTIFUL, BUT ALSO PREVENTS US FROM DIVESTMENT AWAY FROM FOSSIL FUELS AND REACHING OUR CLIMATE GOALS.

ADDITIONALLY, THE APPROVAL OF THE FLAGSTAFF PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL RETIREMENT SYSTEM PENSION FUNDING.

EXCUSE ME ONE MOMENT.

IF FOR THIS ITEM, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS FOR THE OTHER ITEMS WHEN THEY'RE DISCUSSED, I'LL CALL YOU UP TO GIVE YOUR COMMENTS.

OKAY? I WILL SKIP TO THE PART THAT'S RELEVANT.

CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT A DISTANT THREAT.

IT IS A PRESSING MORAL CONCERN THAT AFFECTS PEOPLE TODAY AND WILL CONTINUE TO IMPACT ESPECIALLY OUR YOUNGEST CHILDREN, THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE ON EARTH WHO CAN DO NOTHING TO STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHT TO CLIMATE JUSTICE.

WE MUST BE THEIR VOICE.

THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION REPORTS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS CURRENTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR AT LEAST 150,000 DEATHS PER YEAR, WITH PROJECTIONS THAT THIS RATE WILL DOUBLE BY 2030.

RESEARCH PUBLISHED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH PERSPECTIVES JOURNAL HIGHLIGHTS THAT 88% OF THE DISEASE BURDEN RELATED TO CLIMATE CHANGE FALLS UPON CHILDREN.

IN CONCLUSION, I URGE THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER THESE UPCOMING DECISIONS AND TAKE MORE PROACTIVE MEASURES TO ENSURE THAT OUR POLICIES AND ACTIONS ARE TRULY ALIGNED WITH THE FLAGSTAFF CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

TOGETHER, WE CAN MAKE FLAGSTAFF A LEADER IN SUSTAINABILITY AND A MODEL MODEL FOR OTHER CITIES TO FOLLOW.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

STAFF, I KNOW THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED THIS BEFORE.

BUT I'M WONDERING WHETHER THERE'S ANYONE WHO'S PREPARED OR WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK I SAW POLICE CHIEF DAN MUSSELMAN UP HERE EARLIER, AND I WOULD INVITE HIM AND OR NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS WITH OUR WHO HAS A LOT OF INVOLVEMENT WITH THE FLEET PURCHASING POLICY.

CHIEF, CAN WE PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AND HAVE YOU ADDRESS THE AS IT PERTAINS TO.

AND NICOLE'S ON HER WAY? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

SO THIS REQUEST BEGAN EARLIER THIS YEAR WHEN FORD NOTIFIED US THAT THEIR EXPLORER HYBRIDS WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR THIS YEAR.

AND THEN THEY TOLD US THEY WEREN'T TAKING ANY ORDERS FOR 2025.

WE WE DO HAVE CURRENTLY 13 OF THE FORD HYBRIDS IN OUR FLEET THAT WE'RE USING.

AND THEY'RE GOOD VEHICLE, BUT WE JUST CAN'T GET THEM.

THEY FINALLY DID START TAKING 2025 ORDERS, BUT THOSE CARS WERE TOLD ARE NOT GOING TO BE WILL NOT BE SEEN UNTIL THE SUMMER OF 2025.

AND SO WAITING THAT LONG WE'RE GOING TO BE IN DIRE STRAITS.

WE'VE GOT SIX.

I'M SORRY. WE HAVE 21 VEHICLES THAT ARE OVER SIX YEARS OF AGE, AND NINE VEHICLES WITH OVER 125,000 MILES THAT ARE GETTING DRIVEN 8 TO 16 HOURS A DAY, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY OFFICERS DRIVE THEM.

SO WE'VE LOST TWO, TWO MORE VEHICLES IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, SO WE'RE JUST STUCK BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE.

WE DO EXPLORE THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES WE HAVE FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES, AND THEY ARE TRUCKS AND WE USE THEM WHERE WE CAN.

WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD GOOD LUCK PUTTING THEM INTO OUR PATROL FLEET.

WE USE THEM FOR OUR POLICE AIDS, OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, AND WHERE IT MAKES MORE SENSE, WHERE WE'RE NOT RUNNING AS MANY ELECTRONICS AND LIGHTS AND THINGS.

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THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

SO? SO WHEN WE HEAR THAT THESE VEHICLES ARE AVAILABLE, WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO THAT? THERE. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THERE ARE SOME ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, BUT NOT THAT ARE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE FOR THE POLICING THAT WE DO.

WE NEED ALL WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLES.

WE NEED VEHICLES THAT WILL RUN A LOT OF ELECTRONICS.

WE NEED VEHICLES THAT ALLOW LARGER INDIVIDUALS TO GET IN THAT WHERE A LOT OF STUFF.

YEAH, WE'VE TRIED SOME OF THE SMALLER ONES, AND THEY JUST HAVE NOT BEEN EFFECTIVE FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND SO IS IT AN OPTION FOR US NOT TO PURCHASE THESE VEHICLES? AND IF AND IF WE DON'T PURCHASE THEM, WHAT'S THE RESULT? WHAT'S THE IMPACT? YES. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

SO YES CALLS.

THE TIME AT CALL RESPONSE TIME WILL INCREASE AS WE HAVE LESS AND LESS VEHICLES.

WE'LL HAVE TO START PUTTING TWO OFFICERS INTO ONE VEHICLE TO GO TO CALLS, AND ULTIMATELY WE'RE GOING TO START RUNNING OUT OF VEHICLES.

WE CAN GO WITH OTHER GAS OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, BUT THIS PLATFORM SEEMS TO WORK PRETTY GOOD WITH US.

IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO STICK WITH THE VEHICLES THAT OUR SHOP KNOWS HOW TO WORK ON.

THE OFFICERS ARE COMFORTABLE DRIVING, AND IF WE BUMP INTO SOMETHING IN ONE OF THESE CARS, WE CAN PIRATE PARTS OFF ANOTHER ONE TO FIX IT AND PATCH IT UP AND PUT IT BACK IN SERVICE. THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL FOR ME. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

YEAH. THANKS, CHIEF.

I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

THE FIRST PART OF YOUR STATEMENT IS SOUNDED LIKE.

YEAH, WE WOULD LOVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, BUT WE CAN'T GET THEM RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS A STRONG ARGUMENT BECAUSE I SUPPORT GOING TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

BUT THEN THE LAST PART OF YOUR STATEMENT, IT SOUNDED LIKE.

WELL, THEY DON'T REALLY MEET OUR NEEDS.

SO WHICH IS IT? IS IT A LITTLE OF EACH OR IT'S A LITTLE OF EACH.

SO WE CAN PROBABLY GET SOME VEHICLES, SMALLER VEHICLES.

BUT YOU TRY AND CRAM A SIX FOOT FOUR, 300 POUND PRISONER INTO A SMALLER VEHICLE.

IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK.

AND BIGGER OFFICERS.

SO IT IS A LITTLE OF BOTH.

THERE ARE ELECTRIC VEHICLES OUT THERE, BUT THEY DON'T SUIT OUR NEEDS RIGHT NOW.

THE ONES WE HAVE DO SUIT OUR NEEDS FOR WHAT WE'RE USING, BUT WE CAN'T EXPAND THOSE INTO OUR WHOLE POLICE PATROL FORCE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER NICOLE WANTS TO COME UP OR SAM.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR.

THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING ME INTO THE CONVERSATION.

WE DO HAVE OUR FLEET EXPERTS ON ONLINE, AND SO I DO WANT TO GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BOTH JEN BROWN AND OR DANNY PRESSLER TO CHIME IN. BUT SOME OF THE KEY POINTS THAT THE CHIEF MADE ARE CORRECT.

AVAILABILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE ARE STILL A CURRENT CHALLENGE THAT WE ARE FACING.

I WILL LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT STAFF ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO UPDATE OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE PURCHASING POLICIES AND OUR PROCESSES.

I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS ON DECK FOR US TO MAKE A MORE EFFICIENT PROCESS FOR PROCURING VEHICLES IN A TIMELY FASHION, AND I WILL SAY THAT FLAGSTAFF IS NOT UNIQUE IN THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY FACING.

IT IS A HIGH PRIORITY.

YET AT THE SAME TIME, IN ADDITION TO THE WORK IN TERMS OF ELECTRIFYING OUR FLEET, WE ARE WORKING HARD TO DO NUMEROUS THINGS TO ADDRESS OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS. AND WITH THAT, IF I MAY ASK EITHER JENNIFER BROWN OR DANNY PRESSLER TO STEP IN WITH SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

HI. HI. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND STEP IN.

JENNIFER BROWN AND I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE INTRODUCING ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE APPROPRIATE FOR FOR THE RIGHT JOB.

SO WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY DO HAVE THOSE FOUR ELECTRIC LIGHTNINGS, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE 24 OVER SEVEN.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADEQUATELY ABLE TO GO OUT AND PERFORM THEIR JOB DUTIES.

THAT'S ONE THING THAT THE FLEET MANAGER AND MYSELF, WE GO AND WE EVALUATE AND WE TALK TO THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, WE TALK TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AND WE TALK TO THEM FIRST ABOUT WHAT WHAT ARE THEIR NEEDS? WHAT CAN THEY WHAT ELECTRIC VEHICLES OUT THERE CAN MEET THE NEEDS? IF NOT, THEN OUR NEXT ROUND IS TO GO TO A HYBRID OR A PLUG IN VEHICLE.

SO WE'RE MAKING EVERY STEP TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ELECTRIC VEHICLE FIRST, IF NOT HYBRID HYBRID PLUG IN AND THEN AN ICE VEHICLE.

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IF NOT. AND THEN ALSO WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS ADDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'VE JUST ADDED A WHOLE BUNCH AT THE PUBLIC WORKS SERVICE, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS ABLE TO PROPERLY BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

BUT WE ARE ENSURING THAT WE'RE KEEPING ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN MIND FIRST.

MAYOR COUNCIL FAYEMI.

JUST ADD ON TO THAT.

THIS IS DANNY PRESSLER WITH SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE AND ECHOING EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID HERE.

THIS HAS BEEN A DIFFICULT BUT A REALLY IMPORTANT DECISION WE RECOGNIZE, AND THERE ARE MANY PRIORITIES THAT THE CITY HAS TO BALANCE.

AND CERTAINLY PUBLIC SAFETY IS A KEY PRIORITY.

THE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GO WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR THIS TIME, AT THIS TIME, IS BECAUSE WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE THAT DC FAST CHARGING IN PLACE IN ORDER TO EVEN CONSIDER IT IN THE PATROL.

AND WITHOUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AVAILABLE, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE CURRENTLY WITHIN THE CITY FOR OUR CITY FLEET VEHICLES, IT WON'T MAKE SENSE TO PILOT THIS, BUT PD HAS BEEN REALLY OPEN TO WORKING WITH US, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN GET OUR INFRASTRUCTURE INTO PLACE SO THAT WE CAN EASILY PILOT AND INCORPORATE NEW EV MODELS INTO THE CITY'S FLEET.

ANYTHING ELSE? VICE MAYOR, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER.

HARRIS. NO QUESTIONS FOR YOU, CHIEF, IF YOU WANT TO SIT DOWN.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE CALLS FROM THE PUBLIC.

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE OVERSIGHT THAT YOU'RE VOLUNTARILY PROVIDING AND THE PUSH THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING.

I THINK IT'S WIDELY DESIRED IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND YOU GUYS BEING HERE DEMONSTRATES THAT THESE REQUESTS COME FROM THE THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF AND NOT REPRESENTING PET PROJECTS, SO TO SPEAK, FROM VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I DO WANT TO ADD THAT I THINK WE HAVE A ROBUST AND A VERY AGGRESSIVE PROTOCOL FOR ACQUIRING AND PROCURING ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

I TRUST THE INTERNAL PULL, TUG AND PULL WITHIN THE CITY OF STAFF AND LEADERSHIP TO DECIDE HOW BEST TO MOVE FORWARD.

THEY KNOW THAT WE HAVE A MANDATE FOR THEM TO CHOOSE ELECTRIC WHENEVER IT'S IT'S FEASIBLE, AND I TRUST THAT PROCESS.

AND AGAIN, NOT TO SAY THAT YOU SHOULDN'T COME UP HERE AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND HOLD OUR FEET TO THE FIRE.

APPRECIATE IT. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST FIRST WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE VICE MAYOR JUST SAID, THAT I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE SWITCHOVER TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON ALSO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AS WAS JUST MENTIONED.

I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

AND I WILL VOTE YES ON THIS PURCHASE.

BUT THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WERE GIVEN.

BUT I STRONGLY SUPPORT A GRADUAL TRANSITION OVER TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES OR HYBRID IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, ETC.. THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR, FOR YOUR GOOD COMMENTS.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

AND THIS IS. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY MANAGER.

I'M MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT WHILE WE HAVE THIS CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN AND WE'RE ALL BEHIND IT, THAT THE IMMEDIATE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS COME FIRST AND FOREMOST, AM I CORRECT? YES, COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

IT IS FOREMOST IT IS IN JUST ABOUT EVERY INSTANCE, CERTAINLY THIS ONE.

I DON'T WANT TO RESTATE ALL THE REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED HERE AT THE DAIS AS TO WHY, BUT I THINK COUNCIL IS GETTING A VERY FIRM UNDERSTANDING OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES HERE.

BUT NOTHING SUPERSEDES THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'M DONE. ALL RIGHT.

I AM READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION UNLESS SOMEONE HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ITEMS NINE A AND NINE E.

AND SINCE I PULLED THEM, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THEM OR APPROVE THEM.

THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

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MOVING DOWN TO THE.

[A. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2024-25: A resolution of the Council of the City of Flagstaff, Arizona adopting the tentative budget for Fiscal Year 2024-2025. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Read Resolution No. 2024-25 by title only City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2024-25 by title only (if approved above) Adopt Resolution No. 2024-25]

CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 202425.

THIS IS REGARDING THE TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2425.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS HEIDI DERRYBERRY.

I AM THE CITY'S ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR.

I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT THE CITY'S FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025 TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR ADOPTION VIA RESOLUTION.

I DO HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION RELATED TO THIS TO THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.

BUT BEFORE I BEGIN, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK THE CITY'S BUDGET TEAM, THE FINANCE TEAM AND ALL CITY DIVISIONS FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORTS IN PREPARING THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET.

AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT TASK WE EMBARK ON ANNUALLY, AND WE WOULD BE UNABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS WITHOUT THE EFFORTS OF SO MANY PEOPLE.

AT FIRST LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THE TIMELINE OF THE REMAINING ITEMS WE HAVE TONIGHT, JUNE 4TH.

WE ARE HERE TO ADOPT THE TENTATIVE BUDGET.

THIS ADOPTION SETS THE MAXIMUM APPROPRIATION AS WELL AS IT SETS IN MOTION THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FINAL BUDGET ADOPTION.

WE WILL BE BACK ON JUNE 18TH FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE BUDGET AS WELL AS THE TAX LEVY.

WE WILL BE HERE FOR FINAL BUDGET ADOPTION AS WELL AS THE FIRST READING OF THE PROPERTY TAX ORDINANCE.

THEN AGAIN, ON JULY 2ND, WE WILL BE HERE FOR THE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX ORDINANCE.

THE BUDGET PRESENTED THIS EVENING FOR 20 2425 IS APPROXIMATELY $579 MILLION.

THIS IS A 7.4% INCREASE OVER THE FISCAL YEAR 2324 BUDGET.

THE BUDGET IS MADE UP OF MANY DIFFERENT FUNDS.

AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE GENERAL FUND MAKES UP APPROXIMATELY 20% OF THE OVERALL BUDGET, OR $114 MILLION.

SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS SUCH AS THE HIGHWAY USER REVENUE FUND, TRANSPORTATION B-B-B, ETC.

MAKE UP 30% OR $173 MILLION OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

DEBT SERVICE FUNDS, SUCH AS THE GENERAL OBLIGATION AND PENSION DEBT SERVICE, MAKE UP APPROXIMATELY 3% OR $20 MILLION OF THE BUDGET.

CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS, SUCH AS OUR PROP 441 AND 442 MAKE UP APPROXIMATELY 11%, OR $66 MILLION OF THE BUDGET.

AND FINALLY OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS SUCH AS WATER SERVICES, SOLID WASTE, AIRPORT SUSTAINABILITY AND FHA MAKE UP 36% OR APPROXIMATELY $207 MILLION.

SOME HIGHLIGHTS THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT WE CONSIDERED DURING THE PREPARATION OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

AS YOU HAVE HEARD, COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS WAS AT THE FOREFRONT.

WE CONTINUED AS A TEAM TO LOOK AT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING, THE KEY COMMUNITY PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES, AND ALIGN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

WE FOCUSED ON OUR BASIC SERVICES AND OPERATIONAL NEEDS.

WE TOOK TIME AND CONSIDERATION IN INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, THE CLIMATE NEUTRALITY PLAN, THE HOUSING TEN YEAR PLAN.

ETC.. WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION PROPERTY TAX AND THIS YEAR WILL BE A FLAT LEVY PLUS NEW CONSTRUCTION.

A LARGE COMPONENT OF OUR GOALS THIS YEAR WAS CONTINUED EMPLOYEE INVESTMENT.

AS WE'VE SHARED, WE HAVE A PROPOSAL THAT INCLUDES ONGOING MERIT AND PAY FOR PERFORMANCE INCREASES.

AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE CITY'S STARTING PAY.

THE STARTING WAGE, EFFECTIVE IN JULY.

RECOMMENDED WILL BE 1850.

THIS WILL IMPACT OH FIVE TO 25 RANGES AND THE RELATED TEMP PAY PLANS, AS WELL AS THE FIREFIGHTING FIREFIGHTER STARTING RANGE.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE WITH MARKET ADJUSTMENTS TO SPECIFIC CLASSIFICATIONS ACROSS ALL PAY PLANS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE MAINTAINING THE ONGOING MARKET ADJUSTMENT REVIEW, AS WELL AS MAINTAINING COST SHARE FOR ALL MEDICAL PLANS.

INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET ARE THE TWO NEW HOLIDAYS, AS WELL AS ADP'S MOVING TO AN HOURLY RATE.

THE TOTAL RECOMMENDED COMPENSATION AND BENEFIT COMMITMENT IN THIS RECOMMENDED BUDGET IS $5.1 MILLION.

THIS DOES INCLUDE THE ASSOCIATED EMPLOYEE RELATED EXPENSES.

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THE ONLY CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET SINCE THE APRIL RETREAT ARE RELATED TO CARRYOVERS.

AS A QUICK OVERVIEW.

CARRY OVERS ARE RELATED TO ITEMS THAT ARE NOT EXPECTED TO BE RECEIVED OR COMPLETED BY JUNE 30TH.

THIS CAN RESULT FROM A VARIETY OF REASONS, BUT INCLUDES MAINLY CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT TAKE MORE THAN ONE FISCAL YEAR TO COMPLETE, OR PURCHASES OF GOODS SUCH AS VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT DELIVERED BY JUNE 30TH DUE TO AVAILABILITY OR SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.

THE ITEMS THAT THE MAIN CATEGORIES OF CARRYOVERS THAT WE HAVE ARE CAPITAL, OPERATIONAL, AND GRANT.

THE CAPITAL CARRYFORWARDS THIS YEAR ARE ABOUT $116 MILLION.

THIS INCLUDES A VARIETY OF TRANSPORTATION, WATER SERVICE, AND FLEET PURCHASES.

SOME EXAMPLES OF THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING CARRIED FORWARD ARE THE BEULAH UNIVERSITY ROADWAY PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE LONE TREE OVERPASS PROJECT, AND A WHOLE NUMBER OF OTHERS.

SOME WATER SERVICE PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED ARE THE INTER BASIN PIPELINE PROJECT, THE RIO SOLIDS TREATMENT PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE SUITE OF SWOSH DRAINAGE PROJECTS, AS WELL AGAIN AS A LONG LIST OF PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PROCESS.

SOME EXAMPLES OF THE FLEET CARRYFORWARDS THAT ARE INCLUDED INCLUDE THE FIRE TRUCKS.

THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY ON ORDER THAT HAVE AN 18 MONTH OR LONGER BUILD AND DELIVERY TIME, AS WELL AS A VARIETY OF VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN ORDERED, BUT WE ARE NOT SURE THAT THEY WILL BE DELIVERED BY JUNE 30TH.

OPERATIONAL CARRYFORWARDS INCLUDE A VARIETY OF THINGS SUCH AS STUDIES, SOFTWARE, AND CONTRACTS.

EXAMPLES OF ITEMS IN THE CARRYFORWARD ARE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, THE HR PAYROLL SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION, AS WELL AS MANY OTHER ITEMS. THE GRANT CARRYFORWARDS OF 5.6 MILLION INCLUDE CDBG FUNDING FOR HOUSING, REMAINING ARPA FUNDING FOR A VARIOUS NUMBERS OF PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE AND AID FOR NONPROFITS, AS WELL AS WE HAVE SEVERAL SUSTAINABILITY GRANTS, WHICH INCLUDES THE EPA REGIONAL RESILIENCE PROJECT AND THE HUD FLAGSTAFF HOME ENERGY RETROFIT PROGRAM, AS WELL AS MANY OTHER GRANTS THAT ARE CROSSING FISCAL YEARS. SO WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SHARE REGARDING THE TENTATIVE BUDGET.

THE TENTATIVE BUDGET BOOK WILL BE AVAILABLE BEGINNING TOMORROW AND WE WILL POST TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

IT WILL BE AVAILABLE IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS ALWAYS AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST FROM MYSELF OR BRANDI SUDA.

THE TENTATIVE BUDGET WILL ALSO BE PUBLISHED IN THE ARIZONA DAILY SUN THIS THURSDAY, AS WELL AS ON JUNE 13TH.

ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OR THE PUBLIC REGARDING THE.

THE BUDGET CAN BE DIRECTED TO BRANDI SUDA AT THE CONTACT INFORMATION PROVIDED.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCIL.

QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? THAT WAS A THAT WAS A GREAT FOLLOW UP TO THE RETREAT THAT WE HAD IN APRIL.

AND FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION, WE START IN WAS IT OCTOBER THAT WE HAD OUR FIRST RETREAT? SO WE HAVE SEVERAL RETREATS TO DISCUSS VARIOUS ITEMS HAVING TO DO WITH THE BUDGET.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS COME SINCE THEN.

ALL RIGHT. IS SOMEONE READY TO MAKE A MOTION THEN? MAYOR. I WILL MOVE THAT.

WE READ RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 4-25 BY TITLE ONLY.

I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. CITY CLERK.

A RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA, ADOPTING THE TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 DASH 2025.

MOTION TO ADOPT.

YES, MAYOR. I WILL MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 4-25.

I'LL SECOND ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING DOWN TO ITEM TEN B.

[B. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2024-24: A resolution of the Flagstaff City Council adopting the City of Flagstaff Public Safety Personnel Retirement System Pension Funding Policy; delegating authority; and establishing an effective date. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Read Resolution No. 2024-24 by title only City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2024-24 by title only (if approved above) Adopt Resolution No. 2024-24]

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WELCOME. HELLO AND WELCOME.

GOOD TO SEE YOU. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

RICK TADDER. MANAGEMENT SERVICE DIRECTOR.

THIS IS A ITEM THAT'S RELATED TO AN ANNUAL STATE REQUIREMENT THAT CITY COUNCILS ADOPT A ANNUAL PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL RETIREMENT PLAN, OR SPS FUNDING POLICY.

WE'VE BEEN ADOPTING THESE ANNUAL PLANS AND POLICIES SINCE FISCAL YEAR 2020.

THIS YEAR'S POLICY REFLECTS WHERE OUR PLANS SAT, EFFECTIVE LAST ACTUARIAL REPORT, WHICH IS JUNE 30TH, 2023. FOR OUR FIRE PLAN, WE WERE STILL ABOVE 100% FUNDED, ABOUT 102 102%.

WHILE THE FUNDING FOR OUR POLICE PENSION PLAN DID DROP BELOW OUR GOAL OF BEING 100% FUNDED AND HAS DROPPED TO 97.9%.

THERE ARE MANY FACTORS THAT GO INTO CHANGES OF AN ACTUARIAL PLAN AND OUR LIABILITIES THAT WE HAVE, AND WE ARE WORKING HARD TO LOOK AT OUR ACTUARIAL MODELS AS WELL AS WE ARE SETTING UP MEETINGS IN THE FUTURE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, RETIREMENT PLAN SYSTEM EMPLOYEES TO UNDERSTAND OUR MODEL EVEN BETTER AND TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN AND GET BACK TO THAT 100% FOR THE LONG TERM.

SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT COULD BE IMPACTING THIS IS RETURN ON INVESTMENTS CHANGES IN ASSUMPTIONS IN THE ACTUARIALS, AS WELL AS OUR BASE PAYROLL AND PAY PLANS.

WE'VE MADE A LOT OF STRIDES IN PAYING EMPLOYEES A MARKET LEVEL POSITION AND CHANGING OUR PAY PLANS.

AND THESE DO HAVE EFFECTS ON WHAT OUR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE AND WHAT OUR LIABILITIES ARE IN THE FUTURE.

SO THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS.

WE'RE OKAY WITH THOSE TYPES OF CHANGES IN THE IMPACTS.

BRANDI SUDA, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR.

I HAVE LOOKED AT THE MODEL.

WE DO DETERMINE THAT THERE IS ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE'D WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PENSION PLAN THIS YEAR TO GET US BACK TO 100%, HOPEFULLY FOR THE NEXT REPORT.

AND AS WE CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AGAIN, WE'LL MEET WITH SPURS AND BRING YOU BACK MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IN THE FUTURE TO STAY ABOVE 100%.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO STAY THERE SINCE WE DID THAT PENSION FINANCING SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

BUT ONE OF OUR DECISIONS A WHILE BACK WAS TO SET ASIDE SOME OF THAT SAVINGS FOR THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS.

AS WE LEARN OVER THE FIRST ABOUT FOUR YEARS NOW, 3 OR 4 YEARS THAT DID WE HIT THE TARGET.

DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER? AND SO THAT SET ASIDE FUNDS CAME IN VERY HANDY TO HELP READDRESS THESE, THESE FUNDING LEVELS AND GET US BACK TO 100% QUICKLY.

WITH THAT, THE ONLY CHANGE IN THE PENSION POLICY VERSUS LAST YEAR IS RELATED TO PROVIDING ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS TO THE PENSION PLAN.

IF WE'RE UNDER 100% FUNDED.

THAT JUST WASN'T IN OUR POLICY LAST YEAR.

BUT IT IS A GOOD THING TO HAVE FOR OUR POLICY.

SO WITH THAT, WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 24.

COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. TATTER? ALL RIGHT.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

EXCUSE ME. MAYOR. CITY MANAGER HAD A COMMENT, I THINK.

CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.

I NEVER LIKE TO INTERFERE WITH THE PENDING MOTION.

I JUST WANTED TO ECHO COMMENTS THAT MR. TATTER JUST MADE WITH REGARD TO THE SAVINGS THAT ARE BEING UTILIZED TO COVER THIS LITTLE BIT OF A SHORTFALL, AND TO EMPHASIZE THAT CONTINGENCY WAS BUILT INTO THIS REFINANCE PACKAGE YEARS AGO.

AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE REASON WHY IT WAS BUILT IN, IS THERE WERE SOME UNKNOWNS AT THE OUTSET, THE THINGS THAT RICK SPOKE TO IN THEIR IMPACT UPON THE FUND. SO I THINK IT'S ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE TO BE HAVING THIS THIS SOLUTION PRESENTED TO COUNCIL TO UTILIZE A CONTINGENCY.

CONTINGENCY FUNDS.

PARDON ME TO HELP COVER THIS GAP.

AND I'M JUST ADDING THE FACT THAT IT IS WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO DO.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, I'M READY FOR A MOTION.

MAYOR. I WILL MOVE THAT.

WE READ RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 4-24 BY TITLE ONLY AND A SECOND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?

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AND A MOTION TO ADOPT.

MAYOR. I'LL MOVE THAT. WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 4-24.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

SO MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER.

[C. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2024-23: A resolution of the Flagstaff City Council, designating its Chief Fiscal Officer for officially submitting the fiscal year 2024-2025 expenditure limitation report to the Arizona Auditor General, and establishing an effective date. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Read Resolution No. 2024-23 by title only City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2024-23 by title only (if approved above) Adopt Resolution No. 2024-23]

MR. TARTAR. MAYOR.

VICE MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL.

THIS IS ANOTHER ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE THAT ANNUALLY YOU DESIGNATE WHO YOU WANT TO BE YOUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THE PURPOSE OF REPORTING OUR ANNUAL EXPENDITURE LIMITATION REPORT IN THE FISCAL YEAR.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

IT'S REALLY JUST A PRACTICE THAT WE DO.

BEING THE TREASURER OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, I'VE BEEN DESIGNATED FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

AND SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS DO WE HAVE OTHER CHOICES? JUST KIDDING. YES YOU DO. ABSOLUTELY.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO READ RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-23 BY TITLE ONLY.

AND RICK, YOU'RE A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR YOU? I'LL SECOND. JUST HAD TO GIVE YOU A HARD TIME.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? CITY CLERK.

A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL DESIGNATING THE CHIEF FISCAL OFFICER FOR OFFICIALLY SUBMITTING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 DASH 2025 EXPENDITURE LIMITATION REPORT TO THE ARIZONA AUDITOR GENERAL AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT? I MOVE TO ADOPT, AND A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

ADOPTED. MOVING DOWN TO TEN E.

OH. OH YES.

TEN D CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 202426.

[D. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2024-26: A resolution of the Flagstaff City Council, amending the Procurement Code Manual, Article 4 and adding Article 32 and establishing an effective date. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: Read Resolution No. 2024-26 by title only City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2024-26 by title only (if approved above) Adopt Resolution No. 2024-26]

HELLO, PATRICK.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

PATRICK RYAN, YOUR PURCHASING DIRECTOR.

I MADE A PRESENTATION LAST WEEK, AND THIS RESOLUTION IS AMENDING THE PROCUREMENT CODE MANUAL WITH THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL GAVE US LAST WEEK WITH OPTION ONE. I DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT I AM HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

SO WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AND THEN I'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE CAN DELIBERATE.

SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL FOR PATRICK? I HAVE SOME COMMENTS, BUT I'LL HOLD THOSE TILL AFTER.

ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

FIRST WE HAVE DAVID SPENCE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I WAS HERE LAST WEEK.

MY NAME IS DAVID SPENCE AND I WAS HERE LAST WEEK AND THANKED THE CITY STAFF FOR DEVELOPING A MECHANISM TO BRING CLIMATE ACTION INTO THE PROCUREMENT CODE.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SAY THAT OPTION ONE, IN MY OPINION, IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH.

WHAT WE NEED TO REALIZE, AND IS THE BASIC KNOWLEDGE THAT OUR ATMOSPHERE AND OUR OCEANS CIRCULATE WORLDWIDE, AND WHAT WE DO AS INDIVIDUALS, AS A CITY GOVERNMENT, A STATE OR A NATIONAL GOVERNMENT OR OTHER NATIONS IN THE WORLD.

WHAT EVERYBODY DOES AFFECTS EVERYBODY ELSE WITH REGARD TO WELLS FARGO.

THIS INSTITUTION, AS WE ALL HAVE LEARNED, IS ONE OF THE FOUR LARGEST FUNDERS OF NEW FOSSIL FUEL PROJECTS IN OUR WORLD.

AND THIS BANK.

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THIS BANK COULD CHANGE ITS POLICY OVERNIGHT IF THIS BANK WANTS TO RETAIN ITS CUSTOMERS AND BE A RESPONSIBLE.

OR A COMPANY IN THE WORLD THAT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE FACING GLOBAL WARMING.

THIS BANK NEEDS TO CHANGE ITS PRACTICE, AND APPARENTLY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THEIR PRACTICE UNTIL THEY LOSE ENOUGH CUSTOMERS TO AFFECT THEIR BOTTOM LINE.

AND THAT IS WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT.

TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO STRENGTHEN OPTION ONE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCUREMENT OF NEW BANKING SERVICES, THE NEXT RFP INCLUDES STRONG ENOUGH LANGUAGE AND CRITERIA THAT A BAD ACTOR DOES NOT GET TO THE TOP OF THE LIST.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

JILL STEVENSON.

I'M FIGHTING WITH TECHNOLOGY.

HANG ON. PLEASE BE PATIENT.

OKAY. I AM JILL STEVENSON, BUT I'M READING THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR DOCTOR KIM CURTIS FROM FOSSIL FREE ARIZONA.

SHE WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE IN PERSON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

I AM HERE TO WEIGH IN ON THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU.

IT IS USEFUL THAT STAFF CREATED THREE OPTIONS TO AMEND THE PROCUREMENT CODE TO BRING IT INTO ACCORD WITH THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY.

AS YOU KNOW, FOR 30 YEARS, THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF HAS CONTRACTED WITH WELLS FARGO, A BANK THAT FOR DECADES HAS BEEN AMONG THE TOP FIVE GLOBAL FUNDERS OF THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY.

AND THEY CONTINUE TO THIS DAY TO EXPAND THAT FUNDING.

WE DO NOT WANT BANKS SUCH AS THESE USING OUR PUBLIC DOLLARS TO CONTINUE THEIR DISASTROUS BUSINESS AS USUAL APPROACH.

SO WE NEED A PROCUREMENT CODE THAT CAN ADEQUATELY SCREEN FOR FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THAT DO NOT DO THIS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH EACH OF THE OPTIONS PRESENTED TO YOU BY STAFF.

MOREOVER, THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN GIVEN ONLY ONE WEEK TO ASSESS THE OPTIONS.

THESE ISSUES ARE SERIOUS AND COMPLICATED.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR GOOD DECISION MAKING.

MY ASK IS THAT YOU NOT VOTE TODAY AND INSTEAD DIRECT STAFF TO IMMEDIATELY CREATE MEANINGFUL AND REALISTIC AMENDMENTS THAT CAN ADEQUATELY, ADEQUATELY SCREEN THE APPLICANTS.

A FEW COMMENTS ON THE INADEQUACY OF THE OPTIONS BEFORE YOU.

OPTION ONE IS THE WEAKEST.

IT GIVES ONLY TEN POINTS, 10% OF THE OVERALL SCORING FOR CLIMATE RELATED CRITERIA.

THIS IS FAR TOO LOW AND IS LIKELY TO ENABLE A CONTRACT TO BE AWARDED TO A ROGUE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION LIKE WELLS FARGO, GIVE GREATER WEIGHT TO CLIMATE CRITERIA. IT COULD AND SHOULD BE AMENDED TO GIVE GREATER WEIGHT TO CLIMATE CRITERIA.

OPTION TWO LARGELY JUST REQUIRES REPORTING.

THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR BANKS TO ENGAGE IN GREENWASHING UNDER THIS OPTION.

THIS OPTION DOESN'T HAVE SCREENING TEETH.

OPTION THREE THE STRONGEST MAY BE UNREALISTIC AS WRITTEN.

WHILE IT CLEARLY EXCLUDES CONSIDERATION OF THE TOP GLOBAL FOSSIL FUEL FUNDING BANKS, THERE ARE VERY FEW ABSOLUTELY FOSSIL FREE BANKS.

WHAT THERE ARE ARE LOCAL AND REGIONAL FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THAT DO NOT PLAY THE ABSOLUTELY DESTRUCTIVE ROLE IN PERPETUATING THE CLIMATE CRISIS, TO HAVE A MEANINGFUL AMENDMENT, OPTIONS THAT ENABLE THE CITY TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY.

WE NEED OPTIONS THAT CAN SCREEN OUT THOSE BANKS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF FOSSIL FUEL INVESTMENTS AND OPTIONS THAT GIVE ADEQUATE WEIGHT TO THE CLIMATE RELATED CRITERIA.

I URGE YOU TO DELAY CONSIDERATION OF THESE AMENDMENTS, AND TO DIRECT STAFF IMMEDIATELY TO DRAFT A MEANINGFUL AND REALISTIC AMENDMENT OPTION WITH TEETH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. DE HOAGLAND.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THANKS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS.

CITIES AND STATES THROUGHOUT THE US ARE TACKLING THE CLIMATE CRISIS AND REDUCING THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT.

SOME ARE PHASING OUT NEW GASOLINE POWERED VEHICLE PURCHASES, SOME ARE REVISING THEIR BUILDING CODES AND PROCUREMENT CODES.

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I THINK WE CAN AGREE THAT A BANK SHOULD NOT ENGAGE IN AND PROFIT FROM DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES, WHETHER THEY ARE BASED ON SEXUAL ORIENTATION, RACE, RELIGION OR AGE.

THIS WOULD BE UNACCEPTABLE.

SHOULD A BANK FUND AND PROFIT.

FROM AN INDUSTRY THAT CONTRIBUTES TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

SHOULD WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE THIS? THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

I URGE YOU TO UPDATE THE CITY'S PURCHASING POLICY TO INCLUDE CLIMATE CHANGE WHEN SEEKING BANKING SERVICES.

WELLS FARGO IS NOT ONLY UNETHICAL AND CORRUPT, BUT A TOP FUNDER OF THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY.

STOP THE MONEY PIPELINE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

KATHY FLACCUS.

I'M AARON COUNCIL, I'M KATHY FLACCUS.

I LIVE AT 1021 NORTH HOPI DRIVE.

SO AND I DON'T WANT TO BE REDUNDANT, BUT I ALSO AM ASKING YOU TO DELAY VOTING ON THIS.

AND ONE REASON IS, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN FAVORING OPTION ONE, AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TIGHTEN THAT UP A LOT, BECAUSE THERE'S VAGUE LANGUAGE IN IT THAT COULD REALLY GIVE BANKS A LOT OF ROOM TO SLIDE.

AND AN EXAMPLE IS, IS HOW IT SAYS WE WANT EVIDENCE OF COMMITMENT AND, AND THAT THAT IS REALLY VAGUE.

LIKE WHAT DOES THAT EVIDENCE CONSIST OF.

SO I THINK BY BEING MORE SPECIFIC AND TIGHTENING THESE UP A LOT, IT WOULD REALLY HELP.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS YOU WANT THEM TO REDUCE RELATIONSHIPS WITH FOSSIL FUEL.

WHAT? I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

DOES IT MEAN CUTTING UP A CREDIT CARD.

AND SO I, I REALLY THINK AND THAT WE COULD TIGHTEN THIS UP AND, AND MAKE IT MUCH BETTER.

SO I WOULD REALLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO DELAY VOTING ON THIS SPECIFIC THING BECAUSE THESE CAN BE MADE BETTER.

I AGREE THAT OPTION THREE IS JUST SHUTS OUT EVERY SINGLE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION AND IT'S TOO STRONG.

OPTION TWO IS JUST ASKS FOR THEM BANKS TO SUBMIT WRITINGS ON IT WITHOUT CLEAR COMMITMENTS.

AND SO IF YOU WANT TO GO WITH OPTION ONE, PLEASE TIGHTEN IT UP.

MAYBE DELAY THE VOTE.

MAKE IT STRONGER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LEAH MANDEL.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS LEAH MUNDELL.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF NORTHERN ARIZONA INTERFAITH COUNCIL.

WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF TIME TO, AS A COUNCIL, DISCUSS THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SUCH A SHORT TIME THAT THESE OPTIONS SINCE THESE OPTIONS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED.

BUT I DID WANT TO SUPPORT THE IDEA OF DELAYING THIS VOTE SO THAT YOU HAVE TIME, FIRST OF ALL, TO GET MORE COMMUNITY INPUT, BUT ALSO TO COME UP WITH AN OPTION THAT'S A BETTER BALANCE.

I KNOW THAT THIS IS A REALLY THIS IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION TO BE ABLE TO FIND BANKS THAT CAN PERFORM ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT THE CITY NEEDS AND TO FULFILL OUR CITY'S CLIMATE COMMITMENT.

AND SO, AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, I THINK OPTION ONE IS TOO LIMITED, ONLY GIVING 10% OF THE OVERALL SCORE FOR CLIMATE RELATED CRITERIA. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO EXPLORE HOW OTHER CITIES ARE WEIGHTING THIS, AND HOW WHETHER IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO GIVE A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF THAT CRITERIA TO OUR CLIMATE GOALS.

I THINK THAT, AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, OPTION TWO TOO MUCH PUT ON THE APPLICANT COMPANIES TO ALLOW THEM THAT COULD ALLOW THEM TO MISREPRESENT THEIR RELATIONSHIPS WITH FOSSIL FUEL COMPANIES.

AND OPTION THREE, ALTHOUGH IT'S THE STRONGEST OPTION, I WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT THAT.

BUT IF IT EXCLUDES ALL POSSIBLE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, IT REALLY MIGHT NOT BE TENABLE.

SO ASKING YOU TO DELAY YOUR VOTE ON THIS AND DEVELOP A NEW OPTION THAT GIVES GREATER WEIGHT TO CLIMATE RELATED CRITERIA AND IS STILL REALISTIC FOR THE CITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NICOLE. I'M WONDERING IF I CAN ASK YOU TO COME DOWN HERE AND ADDRESS YOUR

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MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR IN TERMS OF THE PARTICIPATION.

FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY DIVISION, WE WORKED ALONGSIDE PATRICK, THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR.

OUR ONE OF OUR CITY DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEYS, CHRISTINA KINNEAR AND VARIOUS OTHERS TO DEVELOP A VARIETY, IF YOU WILL, OF OPTIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

RANGE FROM LOW RISK TO HIGH RISK TO FILL IN OPPORTUNITIES FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNCIL IN RESPONSE TO THE CITIZEN PETITION.

WITH THAT IN MIND, WE DID DO A LOT OF RESEARCH IN TERMS OF NOT ONLY THE RESTRICTIONS WITHIN THE STATE OF ARIZONA, BUT TRENDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ALSO ACROSS THE WORLD.

WE LEANED INTO THE EUROPEAN UNION'S WORK IN TERMS OF DIVESTMENT.

IN FACT, THE PROPOSED CODE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL HAS DEFINITIONS THAT ARE REPRESENTED BY THE EU IN TERMS OF INDIRECT AND DIRECT ASSOCIATION WITH THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY.

SO WE TRY TO CREATE AGAIN, A FULL BREADTH OF OPTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IN TERMS OF HOW FAR THE COUNCIL'S WANTED TO GO, WHAT THEIR APPETITE WAS.

WE WE DO KNOW AND I DON'T WANT TO STEP ON PROCUREMENT BY ANY MEANS HERE, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF RESTRICTIONS WITHIN THE STATE OF ARIZONA THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED IN THIS DISCUSSION.

AND SO OUR GOAL WAS TO TRY TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL AGAIN WITH THAT RANGE OF OPTIONS, AND FOR THE COUNCIL TO SET THAT POLICY WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK, RECOGNIZING THAT THERE COULD BE MOVEMENT.

AND I'LL JUST SAY WE HAVE ALREADY HEARD SOME REQUESTS FOR ESCALATING OR INCREASING THE VALUE OF THE POINT STRUCTURE.

IN, IN TERMS OF THE VALUE.

FOR ASSOCIATION WITH THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY, SO FORTH.

SO AS PROPOSED, IT'S 10%.

AND WE HEARD SOME FOLKS MIGHT WANT THAT TO BE HIGHER WITH THAT IN MIND.

AGAIN, WE ARE SEEING TRENDS THAT DIVESTMENT IS SPANNING A WIDE VARIETY OF SECTORS.

SOME COMMUNITIES ARE FOCUSING ON INSURANCE.

SOME COMMUNITIES ARE FOCUSING ON FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS.

OTHERS ARE EVEN FOCUSING ON THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND SO FORTH.

SO THERE'S BEEN A WIDE RANGE OF CONSIDERATIONS THAT WERE PUT ON THE TABLE.

AND WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL, WE FELT, WOULD AGAIN GIVE YOU THE WIDEST RANGE OF OPTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU. AND THEN THIS QUESTION IS FOR EITHER PATRICK OR YOU, THE POINTS.

SO WHEN YOU CONSIDERED LANDING ON TEN POINTS FOR THIS ITEM, WHAT WHAT WAS THE DISCUSSION THAT WENT INTO THAT. SO WE WANTED TO PATTERN IT.

I'M SORRY MAYOR, VICE MAYOR.

WE WANTED TO PATTERN IT AFTER SOMETHING WE ALREADY HAD IN PLACE THAT WAS KIND OF SIMILAR, AND THAT WAS OUR VALUE ADDED KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.

AND WE FOUND THAT 10% WAS A VIABLE AMOUNT TRYING TO RESERVE SOME MOST OF THE POINTS OR THE BULK OF THE POINTS OF THINGS LIKE QUALIFICATIONS, THEIR EXPERIENCE, THEIR PRICING.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS ENOUGH ROOM TO DRAW THAT OUT OF ANY PROPOSALS OR PROPOSERS AND CANDIDATES THAT SUBMIT.

SO THE 10% OR THE TEN POINTS OR 10%.

AND WHAT THAT IS, IS WHATEVER THE TOTAL POINTS IS 10% OF THAT.

SO IF THE POINT VALUE COMES OUT TO 150, THEN IT'D BE 15 POINTS.

SO AS THE POINTS GO UP IN TOTAL, SO DOES THAT PERCENTAGE.

BUT WE PATTERNED IT AFTER THE VALUE ADDED KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.

IT WAS NOT ANYTHING SCIENTIFIC, WE JUST USE THAT AS OUR BENCHMARK.

I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO THAT.

BUT I'VE BEEN REMINDED THAT WE STILL HAVE TWO ONLINE COMMENTERS.

SO CAN WE TAKE ONLINE COMMENTS? MAYOR, WE HAVE OUR FIRST COMMENTER, JASON KOTOWSKI.

JASON, YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

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JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE.

FINGERS CROSSED.

OKAY. SINCERE APOLOGIES ARE BACK.

CLARK. PUBLIC COMMENT.

STATION APPEARS TO BE INOPERABLE AT THE MOMENT.

I WOULD ASK THAT OUR TWO ONLINE COMMENTERS PLEASE SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THE ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENT EMAIL, WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENT AT FLAGSTAFF, AZ.GOV.

AND AGAIN, SINCERE APOLOGIES WILL START TO SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO, NICOLE, I HAVE A.

I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION WITH YOU AND PUT YOU ON A ON THE SPOT.

FIRST, THINK I WANT TO THANK YOU AND PROCUREMENT STAFF FOR WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS.

YOU'RE ALWAYS SO WILLING TO STEP IN AND WORK WITH STAFF, AND YOU LEND SUCH VALUABLE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE TO ALL OF THESE DISCUSSIONS.

SO THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR HOW MUCH TIME YOU PUT INTO THIS.

REGARDING THE POINTS THAT ARE ASSIGNED WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF POINTS THAT ARE ASSIGNED FOR THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE? MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO TRY TO BRING UP AN EXAMPLE OF EVALUATE, EXCUSE ME, A VALUE ADDED POINT STRUCTURE IF THE COUNCIL'S INTERESTED.

PATRICK AND I WERE JUST SPEAKING, BUT I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO YOUR COMMENT BECAUSE I THINK THAT HAVING THAT VISUAL REFERENCE OF PERHAPS HOW A SOLICITATION CAN LOOK AND WHAT THAT POINT STRUCTURE CAN LEND TO THE DISCUSSION, WOULD YOU MIND GIVING ME ONE MOMENT? NO, PLEASE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY VALUABLE.

NOW I'M ON THE SPOT TO FIND IT.

BUT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

OKAY. GOT IT.

AND I APPRECIATE THE.

FAST ACTION.

AND THIS MIGHT GIVE TIME FOR THE CLERK TO RECONNECT THEIR.

SO I THINK THAT THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE LONGER THAN WE WANT TO SPEND.

BUT GIVE ME JUST ONE MORE MOMENT.

ALL RIGHT. SO.

PATRICK. I HOPE I'M CORRECT.

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OH, YEAH. YEAH.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND I HOPE THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE EXAMPLE, BUT I'M A VERY VISUAL LEARNER AND PROCESSOR, SO MY HOPE IS, IS THAT THIS WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY AS WE TALK ABOUT THAT POINT OR EVALUATE EVALUATIVE CRITERIA.

ALL RIGHT.

SO AND PATRICK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PREFER TO WALK THE COUNCIL THROUGH THIS.

IT SEEMS MORE APPROPRIATE. AND THEN I WILL PROMISE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

SO LET'S GET DOWN TO THE ACTUAL EVALUATION CRITERIA.

AND THIS IS FOR A SOLICITATION WE DID FOR ESCO.

AND CAN YOU REMIND EVERYONE WHAT ESCO STANDS FOR? ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S THAT ENERGY CONSERVATION PROJECT THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON OR IN CONTRACT WITH A COMPANY CALLED ESCO TO DO CITYWIDE ENERGY EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS.

NOT A GOOD EXAMPLE. NO.

SO I DID NOT PULL UP A GOOD EXAMPLE.

I THINK IT'S FURTHER DOWN. BUT WHILE PATRICK'S DOING THAT, LET ME OFFER MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION IN THE SPACE OF THOSE THREE OPTIONS.

FROM A SUSTAINABILITY LENS WE HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH AND ASKED TO LEAD THE CITY'S CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS.

AS A LOCAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION REDUCTION STRATEGY, THIS DOES NOT RANK HIGH.

AS A GLOBAL MOVEMENT AND VOICE TO ADDRESS CLIMATE.

THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY, AS WELL AS IN REDUCING INVESTMENT IN FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY.

IT IS A VERY STRONG LEADERSHIP STATEMENT AND STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY, COUNTRIES ALL AROUND THE WORLD HAVE BEEN STEPPING INTO THAT SPACE.

THE OPTION NUMBER TWO, WITH AN INCREASED VALUE FROM AGAIN FROM MY PROFESSIONAL LENS, WOULD BE THE MOST IMPACTFUL FOR OUR ORGANIZATION AND AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW TIME FOR INDUSTRY TO CATCH UP.

IT IS A STRONG STATEMENT, BUT IT WILL ALSO LEND ITSELF TO THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS COMMITMENTS TO CLIMATE ACTION.

FOR MORE TO TO STEP INTO THAT SPACE.

SO IT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A SHIFT IN BUSINESS THINKING AND BUSINESS INVESTMENTS.

AND. AND YOU SAID NUMBER TWO.

AS IS AGAIN, THIS IS JUST MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION.

AN INCREASE IN THE VALUE HIGHER THAN 10%.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

IF I GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME.

ALMOST. SO I'M GOING TO PULL UP A DIFFERENT ONE HERE.

SO WE HAVE.

SO THESE ARE EVALUATED EVALUATIVE CRITERIA FOR A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

IT'S AN SOC BUT IT'S IT'S THE SAME FOR AN RFP.

SO WHAT WE LOOK AT IS WE PUT A LOT OF WEIGHT ON EXPERIENCE OF THE COMPANY AND THE EMPLOYEES.

40 POINTS HERE FOR PROJECT EXPERIENCE FOR THAT COMPANY.

AND THEN WE GIVE 25 POINTS FOR PROJECT TEAM.

BECAUSE THESE ARE IMPORTANT TO US.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHOEVER'S DOING IT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

THE DELIVERY SYSTEM OR WORK PLAN, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE THE SAME AS THEIR CAPABILITIES TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE ASK FOR IN AN RFP FOR BANKING SERVICES.

SO IN HERE WE HAVE 15 POINTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND THEN PROJECT DOCUMENTS.

AND THIS ONE WE ASKED FOR DOCUMENTS THAT DEMONSTRATED IT THAT SHOWED THAT THEY CAN DO THIS WORK.

AND THEN THE VALUE ADDED KNOWLEDGE OF EXPERIENCE GETS TO THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE IN AN ENVIRONMENT LIKE FLAGSTAFF OR NORTHERN ARIZONA, IN A TERRAIN OR GEOLOGICAL CLIMATE AND PRACTICES.

SO THAT HAS TEN POINTS AND THAT AS WELL AS TEN POINTS OR 10%.

IN THIS CASE, IT'S TEN POINTS.

SO THE POINTS THAT PROVIDE WE PROVIDE PRIOR ARE NOT SET POINTS THERE.

YOU GENERALLY HIGHER POINTS DEPENDING ON WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO THE CITY FOR WHAT THEY HAVE TO BRING TO THE TABLE, THEIR EXPERIENCE, THEIR QUALIFICATIONS,

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AND THEN WE'D GET DOWN TO OPTION 1 OR 2, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE ON.

AND THOSE POINTS ARE UP TO YOU TO DECIDE.

WE PUT TEN IN THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE USE FOR VALUE ADDED KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.

THANK YOU. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT.

SO. COUNCIL.

I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEW'S.

SO I WASN'T HERE LAST WEEK, SO I'M JUST UPDATING MYSELF ON THE OPTIONS.

BUT THESE ARE JUST SOME THOUGHTS I'M.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TALK OUT THERE IN DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES ABOUT SOCIAL SCORING, AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS PART OF THAT, AND I.

I'M NOT A FAN.

WE JUST SAW AN EXAMPLE EARLIER WITH OUR PATROL CARS.

THAT TECHNOLOGY IS NOT THERE YET.

AND I WAS LOOKING UP.

PRODUCTS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST GASOLINE CARS THAT WE USE PETROLEUM WITH.

IT'S VITAMINS, ROOFS, BICYCLE TIRES BOATS.

I MEAN, A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE USE EVERY DAY THAT WE DON'T RECOGNIZE AS WE JUST THINK OF CARS FUEL BURNING CARS.

SO WE'RE FAR AWAY FROM ELIMINATING PETROLEUM USE IN PRODUCTS OR IN OUR VITAMINS, OUR CAPSULES, A LOT OF THINGS.

SO I THINK THAT THIS BEING TOO AGGRESSIVE IS TOO AGGRESSIVE RIGHT NOW.

I'VE BEEN IN BANKING FOR OVER 30 YEARS, AND IT'S CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WHO HASN'T HAD THE EXPERIENCE IN BANKING MAY THINK THAT IT'S EASY OR YOU KNOW, ANY BANK IN TOWN, A COMMUNITY BANK, REGIONAL BANK COULD HANDLE THE, THE BANKING REQUIREMENTS THAT A MUNICIPALITY OF OUR SIZE COULD HANDLE.

AND THEY CANNOT.

I MEAN, I LOVE FOOTHILLS BANK AND I CAN'T EVEN DEPOSIT CASH IN THEIR ATM.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY BANKS THAT STAY AWAY FROM SO-CALLED FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRIES THEY COULDN'T SERVICE US EVEN IF WE WANTED TO.

AND WE LOOK AT JUST PULLING UP EASILY.

WELLS FARGO, I MEAN, THE BIG PLAYERS WOULD BE THE ONES WE'D CONSIDER B OF A CHASE.

SOME OF THE FOREIGN BANKS WELLS FARGO HAS A VERY ROBUST SUSTAINABILITY COMMITMENT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE THOUGHT OF TELLING THEM WE'RE NOT GOING TO BANK WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE PROVIDING A SERVICE FOR AN INDUSTRY THAT'S NOT ILLEGAL, THAT WE STILL NEED FOR A FEW YEARS, IF NOT A FEW DECADES.

IT JUST DOESN'T SIT RIGHT WITH ME.

AND WE DID HAVE A BIG, ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT BANKING SELECTION LAST YEAR.

THIS ISN'T JUST SPRUNG ON US LAST WEEK, AND WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE DECISIONS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE CHALLENGES, THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEHIND THAT.

AND I CAN'T IMAGINE I'M GOING TO GUESS THAT IF WE WERE TO MAKE A CHANGE JUST BASED ON WHO WE DON'T LIKE THEM PROVIDING SERVICES WITH, WE'D PROBABLY LOSE HALF OF OUR OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT THAT IS AN UNDERTAKING THAT IS YOU KNOW, I JUST I LOOK AT OUR INVESTMENT AND WHERE WE WANT TO PUT OUR ENERGY AND OUR COST AND OUR PERSONNEL AND TO MAKE A CHANGE, IF THAT'S THE ONLY REASON, IF THE REASONS, PRICING AND SERVICES PROVIDED AND EVERYTHING, THEN YEAH, WE HAVE TO MAKE A HARD CHANGE.

BUT I'VE BEEN THROUGH THOSE CHANGES BEFORE AND THEY'RE A NIGHTMARE.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL AND I DON'T KNOW WHY MY, MY COMPUTER'S NOT.

MY MOUSE DOES NOT WANT TO GO, BUT JUST.

I MEAN, YOU CAN. GOOGLE IT.

AND THERE IS PROBABLY HUNDREDS OF PRODUCTS THAT WE USE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

SKATES. FISHING POLES.

SKIS. SO TO THINK THAT WELL, WE'RE JUST GOING TO WE WANT TO GIVE THEM A NEGATIVE SCORE IF, IF A BANK BANKS AN OIL COMPANY, WE NEED THAT COMPANY.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE IN AS NICOLE SAID, THIS IS NOT PART OF OUR OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

IT DOESN'T ADVANCE US TO THAT GOAL.

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WHAT, TWO WEEKS AGO? THREE WEEKS AGO.

ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, HAVING WHEN WE'RE MAKING CHANGES AND REACHING GOALS, HOW DO THEY ADVANCE? HOW MUCH DID THAT ADVANCE TO OUR GOAL? SO WE CAN SEE THAT THIS REDUCED OUR CARBON EMISSIONS BY X? THIS WOULD NOT.

SO I KNOW SOME OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SOME THINGS TO SAY, BUT I THINK FOR THE REASONS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS GOOD TO MAKE IT REALLY DIFFICULT TO BANK WITH BANKS THAT PROVIDE A SERVICE TO A LEGAL INDUSTRY.

JUST ON THAT FACT WOULD BE HIGHLY RECKLESS AS STEWARDS OF OUR TAXPAYERS.

SO THAT'S MY $0.02, AND I'LL YIELD IT TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER EVERYTHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS SAID, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH A LOT OF IT.

BUT I AM GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND I TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY.

I CARE ABOUT OUR WORLD.

I CARE ABOUT OUR STATE.

I CARE ABOUT OUR COUNTRY.

I CARE MORE ABOUT OUR CITY.

AND I, I RAN FOR FOR COUNCIL BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HAD SOMETHING TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION.

I ALSO RAN FOR COUNCIL BECAUSE I THINK I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE FLAGSTAFF BETTER.

AND SO RIGHT NOW I'M FOCUSED ON FLAGSTAFF.

WHILE I WOULD LIKE TO FIX THE REST OF THE WORLD, I KNOW THAT I CAN'T DO THAT, BUT I CAN HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON FLAGSTAFF AND WHAT WE DO HERE.

AND SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT THAT'S SELFISH, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S BEING SELFISH.

I THINK THAT YOU START AT HOME AND THEN YOU SPREAD AND SO FOR THAT AND A LOT OF REASONS, I AM NOT FOR US GOING ANY FURTHER WITH THIS, I DON'T THINK THIS GETS US ANYWHERE WITH OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOAL.

IT'S A FEEL GOOD.

IT FEELS GOOD.

AND SOMETIMES WE DO FEEL GOOD.

BUT THIS TIME, THIS FEEL GOOD IS GOING TO HURT US.

AND SO I WOULD RATHER NOT MOVE DOWN THAT ROAD.

AND SO THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

THAT'S IT FOR ME.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

WELL, FIRST OFF I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN CLIMATE CHANGE AND THAT IT'S CAUSING OBSERVABLE PROBLEMS IN OUR LIFETIME. IT'S NOT AS SOMETHING WAY OFF IN THE FUTURE.

IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

AND I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO THINGS THAT WILL ADDRESS THAT, EVEN IF IT'S ONLY IN OUR SMALL PART OF THE WORLD.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO DO THINGS LIKE TRANSFER TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

WE NEED TO UPGRADE OUR BUILDING CODE FOR BETTER INSULATION TO REDUCE ENERGY CONSUMPTION.

WE NEED TO DO THINGS IN OUR LIGHTING CODE IN A SIMILAR WAY.

HOWEVER, CONCERNING WHAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT YOU STOLE MY TERM FEEL GOOD POLICY.

IT'S A FEEL GOOD POLICY, AND IT'S GOOD TO FEEL GOOD.

BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE IT FEELS GOOD.

WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON CLIMATE CHANGE.

LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS I ALREADY MENTIONED, WE SHOULD FOCUS ON DIRECT ACTION THAT AFFECTS CLIMATE CHANGE.

I FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT IN THE PACKET THEY.

THE PACKET. THE FORMAT OF THE PACKET IS IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS AFFECTED BY THE REGIONAL PLAN OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THESE THINGS.

AND WHAT CAME TO CONNECTION TO CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A MISTAKE OR IF IT WAS DONE INTENTIONALLY, BUT IT SAID NONE.

THAT'S WHAT THE PACKET SAYS.

THIS HAS NO CONNECTION TO THE CLIMATE.

EXCUSE ME, THE CARBON NEUTRALITY PLAN.

SO. I'M CONCERNED.

ANOTHER ASPECT TO LOOK AT THIS IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT OF EXTRA STAFF TIME.

NOW, I THANK THE STAFF FOR DOING WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE.

AND, YOU KNOW, A PERSON MIGHT SAY, WELL, THEY'VE DONE ALL THAT WORK, SO LET'S NOT LET IT GO TO WASTE.

WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF LIKE THROWING GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD MONEY.

IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS, IT'S GOING TO COST A LOT OF MORE STAFF TIME TO IMPLEMENT IT.

AND SO AGAIN, MY BASIC THOUGHT IS THIS IS A FEEL GOOD POLICY.

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THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS THERE'S BEEN SOME ALLEGATIONS, AND THEY MAY BE TRUE THAT WELLS FARGO AND OR SOME OF THE OTHER INSTITUTIONS HAVE DONE UNETHICAL THINGS.

I PRESUME THAT IN OUR PROCEDURES, WHEN CHECKING OUT BANKING OR WHOEVER ELSE, IF THEY'RE INVOLVED IN UNETHICAL ACTIONS, THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS IT THROUGH THE, THE, THE LENS OF CLIMATE CHANGE IF THEY'VE DONE UNETHICAL THINGS.

AND WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT COMES TO LIGHT, THEN THAT CAN BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WITHOUT DOING THIS NEW POLICY.

SO I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

LAST WEEK I SAID I WOULD GO WITH OPTION ONE, BUT I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR A WEEK.

AND IN GOOD CONSCIENCE, I HAVE TO SAY IT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD AND IT'S NOT WORTH JUST TO FEEL A LITTLE BETTER.

SO I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF ANY OF THE THREE OPTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

I JUST WANT TO INTERJECT, YOU KNOW FIRST, MUCH APPRECIATION FOR YOUR STATED CONCERNS ABOUT STAFF RESOURCES, BUT I'D LIKE TO INTERJECT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, UP UNTIL NOW, THERE IS NOTHING HERE WITH THE OPTIONS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED 1 OR 2 SPECIFICALLY THAT RISE TO THE LEVEL WHERE I WOULD WANT TO CHIME IN AND SAY, COUNCIL, THIS MAY NOT BE ADMINISTRABLE BY BY OUR STAFF AND I, I REALLY WOULD NOT WANT STAFF RESOURCES TO BE DETERMINATIVE OF COUNCIL'S POLICY DISCUSSIONS.

THEY OVERLAP. WE OF COURSE, OVERLAP ON SO MANY THINGS.

I MEAN, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE IMPRACTICALITIES WE'RE BUMPING UP AGAINST WITH PURCHASE OF EVS.

THINGS LIKE THAT WILL ALWAYS COME TO THE DAIS, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT FROM SUGGESTING THAT WE NEED TO ALTER OUR POLICY DECISIONS BASED UPON STAFF'S ABILITY.

ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT THIS IS DOABLE.

NOT TRYING TO ADVOCATE YES OR NO ON THIS.

IT IS PROPERLY AT THE DAIS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

BUT YOU'D BE HEARING FROM FROM ME AND OTHERS IF WE WERE ENTERTAINING POLICIES HERE, THAT WOULD NOT BE MANAGEABLE BY STAFF.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR A MOTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'VE WRESTLED WITH THIS ONE OVER THE PAST WEEK AS WELL, AND I'M GOING TO STAND BY MY SUPPORT FOR OPTION ONE.

BECAUSE. I THINK WHERE WHERE I'M DIVERGING FROM THE OPINIONS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED TONIGHT IS THAT I SEE THIS AS MORE THAN A FEEL GOOD MOVEMENT.

I THINK THAT THIS IS A STATEMENT OF.

WHERE OUR VALUES ARE AND WHERE OUR VALUES ARE, ARE LEADING US AS WE ARE PURSUING THE DIFFERENT GOALS THAT ARE FACING OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT SAID, I ALSO FEEL THAT OPTION ONE STILL ALLOWS US TO PURSUE THOSE VALUES WITHOUT CREATING AN UNTENABLE SITUATION FOR THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO TO KEEP ADVANCING OUR MISSION AND OUR VISION FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

I HAVE BEEN VOCAL IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, I THINK, ON DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE I FELT THAT WE WERE EITHER STEPPING OUTSIDE OF THINGS, THAT WE HAD THE ABILITY TO TRULY SPEAK INTO AS A COUNCIL BODY.

AND FOR ME, THIS DOES NOT FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.

I THINK THAT AS WE CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, WHAT WE'RE REALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH IS EXPRESSING THAT THAT VALUE TOWARDS DOING WHAT IS GOOD NOT ONLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND ITS PLACE IN THE BROADER LANDSCAPE AND SOME OF THE BROADER CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING.

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IS THIS A RIPPLE MOMENT, OR IS THIS A ESSENTIALLY DROPPING A STONE ONTO A PATH OF DIRT WHERE IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE THAT MUCH IMPACT? I BELIEVE THAT IT IS A RIPPLE.

I BELIEVE THAT IT IS A MOMENT WHERE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT BOTH ESPOUSES AND AND ADVANCES THOSE VALUES. AND DOES NOT DO SO IN A WAY THAT IS DETRIMENTAL.

AGAIN, I, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORTH BY THE COMMUNITY.

AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS DONE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

I ALSO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE WORDS FROM NICOLE.

I WAS MAKING SURE THAT YOU WERE STILL THERE.

ABOUT WHERE THIS FALLS INTO.

HOW IT'S ADVANCING DIFFERENT GOALS AND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THIS TO BE MEANINGFUL.

AND AGAIN, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK WAS THAT THIS WAS A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION.

IT IS NOT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION AND IT'S NOT THE END ALL BE ALL FOR THIS CONVERSATION.

BUT I DO STILL BELIEVE THAT IT'S A STEP MOVING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SO I CONTINUE TO STAND BY SUPPORT FOR OPTION ONE.

I KNOW IT'S NOT AS STRONG AS SOME WOULD WANT IT TO BE, AND I KNOW THAT IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE DIRECTION THAT SOME WANT TO GO, BUT I'M I'M WILLING TO STAND BY THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR EMOTION? VICE MAYOR. YEAH, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF.

I SUPPORTED OPTION ONE LAST WEEK.

I'M STILL IN SUPPORT OF OPTION ONE.

I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY FOR A SECOND.

ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY.

THANK YOU FOR THE ORGANIZING YOU'VE DONE ON THIS ISSUE.

I HOPE THAT YOU'VE FELT THAT YOU'VE HAD AN IMPACT.

THE CITY HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME INTERNALLY DISCUSSING THIS MATTER.

IT'S PART OF OUR CONSCIOUSNESS NOW.

AND SO THAT IS A VICTORY IN AND OF ITSELF.

I BELIEVE THE FACT THAT WE'RE UP HERE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AT LENGTH MEANS THAT YOUR IMPACT IS, IS BEING REALIZED.

THIS IS A VERY, VERY TOUGH, STICKY ISSUE.

I AM SUPPORTIVE OF OPTION ONE BECAUSE I THINK IT DOES SOMETHING.

I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE WAS WORKING WITH A COUPLE OF METAPHORS.

MY METAPHOR IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN I HIKED THE ARIZONA TRAIL, IT SEEMED MONUMENTAL AND TOO BIG TO TACKLE ALL AT ONCE.

BUT AT ONE POINT, I WAS AT THE UTAH BORDER, AND I TOOK THAT FIRST STEP.

AND SO I KIND OF SEE US ON A PATH AS WELL.

AND I THINK THAT IT IT IT IS IT'S NOT JUST FEEL GOOD.

I, I WILL TELL YOU, THE FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS OF THAT ARIZONA TRAIL HIKE DID NOT FEEL GOOD AT ALL.

IT'S TOUGH, BUT IT IS MEANINGFUL.

I THINK WE'RE PART OF A LARGER CONVERSATION.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT RIPPLE EFFECT IS IS HAS A HAS A REAL IMPACT.

WE CAN'T GO MUCH FURTHER THAN THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T KEEP HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AND ALLOW THESE POLICIES AND THESE PROCEDURES TO EVOLVE OVER TIME SO THAT WE ARE.

ABLE TO ABSORB THE IMPACT OF OF CHANGES AS THEY COME.

YOU KNOW, I ALSO STRUGGLE WITH THIS BECAUSE.

I SEE MOST OF OUR LARGE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AS BEING SIX OF ONE, HALF A DOZEN OF THE OTHER.

IF THERE WAS A CLEAR DELINEATION OF WELL, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO CHARACTERIZING BANKING INSTITUTIONS, BUT IF IF WE WERE IN IN SOME POSITION TO CLEARLY INDICATE THROUGH OUR WEIGHTING STRUCTURE THAT CERTAIN BANKING INSTITUTIONS WERE GOING TO RISE TO THE TOP OVER OTHERS, I WOULD BE ALL FOR THAT.

I THINK. I, I THINK WE'RE IN A IN IN A, IN A POOL AND A POND WHERE EVERYTHING'S VIRTUALLY THE SAME AT THIS TIME.

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IN THE FUTURE. THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO START TO DIFFERENTIATE THEMSELVES, AND WE'LL BE IN A POSITION TO TACKLE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION IF THAT'S THE POINT WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.

WE READY FOR A MOTION? OKAY.

PULLING UP THE AGENDA JUST TO FIND THE ITEM NUMBER.

TENDI. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT COUNCIL ADOPT RESOLUTION FIRST.

READ FIRST.

FIRST READ OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 4-26 BY TITLE ONLY, WITH THE STIPULATIONS PRESENTED TO US LAST WEEK IN OPTION ONE AND THE AND THE MODIFICATIONS THAT CAME WITH THAT.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY WE'RE READING AND ADOPTING TODAY.

WHEN I SAID FIRST READ, I MEANT FIRST WE HAVE TO READ IT, THEN WE ADOPT IT.

MY APOLOGIES.

YOU'RE LEGAL. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? I'LL SECOND. OH, I'M ALL OKAY NOW.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NO. SO.

FOUR EYES, THREE NAYS.

CITY CLERK. A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL AMENDING THE PROCUREMENT CODE MANUAL ARTICLE FOUR AND ADDING ARTICLE 32 AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN.

SMOOTHER THIS TIME.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT? MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 4-26.

THANK YOU. A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? NAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND THANK YOU TO THE AUDIENCE AND TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE WRITTEN IN TO US.

OKAY. WE'RE MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER TEN CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 202422.

[E. Consideration and Adoption of Resolution No. 2024-22 and Ordinance No. 2024-16: A resolution of the Flagstaff City Council declaring as a public record that certain document filed with the City Clerk and entitled "2024 amendments to chapters 2-03, 2-13, 2-14, 2-20, and 3-06 of the city code related to the parks and recreation commission, tourism commission, beautification and public art commission, open spaces commission, and hospitality industry tax revenues" and An ordinance of the City Council of the City of Flagstaff, amending the Flagstaff City Code, Title 2, Boards and Commissions, Chapters 2-03, Parks and Recreation Commission, 2-13, Tourism Commission, 2-14, Beautification and Public Art Commission, and 2-20, Open Spaces Commission, and Title 3, Business Regulations, Chapter 3-06, Hospitality Industry Tax Revenues, by adopting by reference that certain document entitled "2024 Amendments to Chapters 2-03, 2-13, 2-14, 2-20, and 3-06 of the City Code Related to the Parks and Recreation Commission, Tourism Commission, Beautification and Public Art Commission, Open Spaces Commission, and Hospitality Industry Tax Revenues," providing for repeal of conflicting ordinances, severability, clerical corrections, and establishing an effective date. STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: At the June 4, 2024 Council Meeting: 1) Read Resolution No. 2024-22 by title only 2) City Clerk reads Resolution No. 2024-22 by title only (if approved above) 3) Read Ordinance No. 2024-16 by title only for the first time 4) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2024-16 by title only (if approved above) At the June 18, 2024 Council Meeting: 5) Adopt Resolution No. 2024-22 6) Read Ordinance No. 2024-16 by title only for the final time 7) City Clerk reads Ordinance No. 2024-16 by title only (if approved above) 8) Adopt Ordinance No. 2024-16]

HIT THE BUTTON SO THAT IT.

THANKS. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS HEIDI HANSEN, ECONOMIC VITALITY DIRECTOR.

I'M HERE AS WELL WITH REBECCA SAYERS, OUR PROS DIRECTOR.

BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WANTED TO ALSO THANK DAVE MCINTYRE, TRACY WARD, JANA WELDON, AND KEVIN FENSEL FOR HELPING US GET TO THIS POINT.

IT'S NICE TO BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU.

WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PARKS AND RECREATION, TOURISM, OPEN SPACES AND BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSIONS ORDINANCES, WHICH WERE ESTABLISHED IN 1988.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING SOME NEEDED PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT WILL UPDATE THE COMMISSION DUTIES AND OBJECTIVES, WHICH ARE OUTDATED AND NO LONGER COINCIDE WITH THE INDUSTRY NEED.

WE ARE ALSO ASKING TO CLARIFY THAT THE OPEN SPACES COMMISSION WILL BE INVOLVED IN MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING ALLOCATION OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION PORTION OF THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY TAX REVENUES, AND WE ARE ALSO ASKING TO UPDATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES.

I WILL GO OVER SOME SLIDES BRIEFLY AGAIN WITH YOU, AND THEN REBECCA WILL FINISH THIS SHORT PRESENTATION.

TERRIFIC. AGAIN.

WHAT IS B-BBEE? IT'S THE BED BOARD AND BOOZE.

OR SOMETIMES BEVERAGE TAX.

IT IS 2% TAX PAID AT EVERY HOTEL, MOTEL, CAMPGROUND, SHORT TERM RENTAL RESTAURANT AND BAR IN THE CITY.

YEAH. AGAIN TO REMIND YOU OF WHO RECEIVES FUNDING FROM THE B-B-B, ITS PARKS AND RECREATION, TOURISM AND VISITOR SERVICES, BEAUTIFICATION, ARTS AND SCIENCES, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU FOR SEVERAL TIMES AND WE'RE ACTUALLY ROUNDING IT OUT.

WE SAW YOU IN JANUARY 2023.

WE CAME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU IN FEBRUARY 2024.

WE SAW YOU IN APRIL OF 2024.

AND THEN NOW YOU'LL SEE US JUNE 4TH AND JUNE 18TH ABOUT OUR FIRST AND SECOND READS.

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AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU'LL SEE US ON THE NOVEMBER 2024 BALLOT.

I'M GOING TO LET REBECCA TAKE OVER AGAIN.

IT IS A SHORT PRESENTATION, BUT SHE'LL REMIND YOU WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS EVENING.

ALL RIGHT. SO I WILL TRY TO QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE CODE CHANGE.

THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE REVIEWING THIS EVENING THAT AFFECT EACH OF THESE AREAS WITHIN THE THE B-BBEE CODE.

FOR PARKS AND RECREATION FIRST WENT TO UPDATE THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION LANGUAGE TO INCLUDE THAT THEY WILL REVIEW B-B-B EXPENDITURES ALONG WITH THE OPEN SPACES COMMISSION.

THIS ALSO CHANGES THE DEFINITION OF PARKS AND RECREATION WITHIN THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION CODE TO INCLUDE THE WORDS OPEN SPACE, WHICH ALLOWS FOR EXPENDITURES THEN TO BE SPENT ON OPEN SPACE, AS WELL AS THE OTHER PARKS AND REC AMENITIES.

THEN WE NEED TO UPDATE THE OPEN SPACE COMMISSION LANGUAGE TO MIRROR THAT OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION.

THIS ALLOWS THE COMMISSIONS TO WORK TOGETHER ON THE B-B-B EXPENDITURES.

THEN WE ALSO NEEDED TO UPDATE THAT PARKS AND RECREATION DEFINITION WITHIN THE HOSPITALITY AND HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY, TAX REVENUE CODE AND THEN OTHER MINOR REVISIONS.

MOVING ON.

THE OTHER CHANGES ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD.

TOURISM AND VISITOR SERVICES.

THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THEIR CHANGES.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, HEIDI OF COURSE CAN ANSWER.

BUT AS A REMINDER IT'S UPDATING THE TERM TOURIST TO VISITORS.

UPDATING LANGUAGE REGARDING REVIEW OF CVB EXPENDITURES BY THEIR COMMISSION.

UPDATE PLANNING LANGUAGE TO A TWO YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN UNDER GUIDANCE OF DISCOVER, FLAGSTAFF AND OTHER MINOR REVISIONS.

THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHANGES WERE TO CHANGE LANGUAGE OR UPDATE LANGUAGE FROM INDUSTRIAL TO APPROPRIATE BUSINESS, AND ADD LANGUAGE TO SUPPORT BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, INCUBATION AND ACCELERATION ACTIVITIES USING PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS, DATA ANALYTICS AND OTHER TOOLS TO ENCOURAGE ENTREPRENEURSHIP. AND THEN THE CHANGES TO BEAUTIFICATION AND ARTS AND SCIENCES. IT'S JUST UPDATING THEIR EXPENDITURE LIMIT FROM 50,000 TO 100,000 AND OTHER MINOR REVISIONS.

SO THAT'S A SUMMARY OF THE CODE CHANGES THAT YOU ARE REVIEWING TODAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? AND NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

SORRY, REBECCA, COULD YOU JUST REMIND ME? WHAT ARE WE ENCOURAGING? I THINK YOU MEAN OPEN SPACE.

THANK YOU. OR ENTREPRENEURSHIP.

ALL RIGHT, SO SO NO LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO READ THE RESOLUTION BY TITLE ONLY.

MR. MAYOR, I'LL MOVE TO READ RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024.

DASH TWO TWO BY TITLE ONLY.

I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. CITY CLERK.

A RESOLUTION OF THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL DECLARING AS A PUBLIC RECORD THAT CERTAIN DOCUMENT FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK AND ENTITLED 2024 AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTERS TWO, DASH 032, DASH 13 TWO DASH 14, TWO DASH 20, AND 3-06 OF THE CITY CODE RELATED TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, TOURISM COMMISSION, BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ART COMMISSION, OPEN SPACES COMMISSION, AND HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY TAX REVENUES.

HERE, PLEASE.

I WOULD LIKE NO EXCUSE.

LET ME START OVER.

I MOVE TO READ ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 16 BY TITLE ONLY FOR THE FIRST TIME.

I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? CITY CLERK. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

AMENDING THE FLAGSTAFF CITY CODE TITLE TWO.

BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

CHAPTER 2-03.

PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION TWO.

DASH 13.

TOURISM COMMISSION TWO DASH 14 BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ART COMMISSION AND TWO DASH 20 OPEN SPACES COMMISSION AND TITLE THREE BUSINESS REGULATIONS.

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SEVERABILITY, CLERICAL CORRECTIONS AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

PHEW. THANK YOU.

YEAH. THAT DOES THAT DOES MERIT SOME APPLAUSE.

OKAY. OKAY.

OKAY. SO THEN AT THE JUNE 18TH MEETING, WE WILL VOTE WHETHER TO ADOPT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE ARE GOING TO MOVE DOWN TO DISCUSSION ITEMS NOW.

[A. Discussion and Direction following Council's Revisions to Water, Wastewater, and Reclaimed Water Model Assumptions and Resulting Rates STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION: The desired outcome is for the Council to confirm their recommended rate model revisions to develop the final rates package for Council consideration at the June 18 and July 2 public hearings.]

WELCOME BACK, SHANNON AND AARON.

AND RICK. THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL SHANNON JONES, WATER SERVICES DIVISION DIRECTOR. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING US SOME TIME TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU TO TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION ON THE WATER RATE STUDY AND TO HIGHLIGHT COMING OUT OF TWO WEEKS AGO, DISCUSSION OF SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

AND TO WORK THROUGH THE REVIEWS OF THAT.

JUST TO HIGHLIGHT COMING FROM MAY 21ST.

THAT WE BROUGHT, AND WE HAD A PRETTY INTENSE DISCUSSION OVER THE LEVERS OF THE MODEL AND THE IMPACTS OF, OF THOSE ASSUMPTIONS AND, AND GOT DIRECTION THAT WE, WE HEARD FROM ANYWHERE, FROM SPECIFIC DIRECTIONS TO SOME RANGES OF WHERE COUNCIL FEELS THAT WE WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL AND MOVE FORWARD TO, TO RUN THOSE THROUGH THE RATE MODEL. JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT IN COMMUNICATING, GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTIONS WERE OVER THE GROWTH PROJECTION TO TO MAINTAIN A 1% ASSUMPTION WITHIN THE GROWTH MODEL, TO MAINTAIN THE 3.5% COST ESCALATION.

FOR THE TOTAL CIP FUNDING.

BIGGER PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HEARD WAS MORE OF A RANGE OF UNDERSTANDING THAT WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE MOVING TO AN EXECUTION RATE FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE 80 TO 90 FIFTH? EXECUTION RATE AND FOR THE DEBT FINANCING SOMEWHERE FROM THE, I WOULD SAY FROM THE LOW TO MEDIUM.

TYPE NUMBER.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT USING DEBT TO FUND THAT PORTION OF THE CIP.

SO WE HAD A LOT OF THAT IN YELLOW ONE.

WHAT ARE THE RANGES.

AND THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION WERE SO, SO WORKING THROUGH THE MODEL TO KIND OF BALANCE THOSE LEVERS, THE CAUSE AND EFFECT, THE RESULTS THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORTH.

AGAIN, ARE THE, THE 1% FOR THE NUMBER OF ACCOUNT GROWTH WITHIN THE UTILITY.

AGAIN, THE 3.5 COST ESCALATION FOR THE FUNDING LEVEL EXECUTION CURRENTLY CONSIDERING A 86% EXECUTION BECAUSE THAT IS ACTUALLY DIRECTLY TIED TO THE DEBT FINANCING PERCENT OF THE CIP.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WE MOVED MORE TO THE MEDIUM AREA FOR THAT AMOUNT OF DEBT WITH 44% FOR WATER AND 27% FOR WASTEWATER, AND LOOKING AT A COMBINED NUMBER OF 38% WORKING WITH OUR FINANCIAL TEAM AND OUR CONSULTANT JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE ANY POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES.

AND ARE THOSE GOOD NUMBERS? SO THAT SO THAT'S HOW WE PROGRESS THROUGH.

AND SO THEN THE RESULTS OF THOSE RATE PROJECTIONS BASED ON THE MODEL.

AND SO AGAIN THIS SLIDE HERE IS AGAIN DEPICTING THAT 86% CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN EXECUTION WITH A 30% COMBINED DEBT.

SO WHILE PREVIOUS OUR PREVIOUS.

PREVIOUS RATE STRUCTURE THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED WAS FOR WATER, LOOKING AT ABOUT $185 MILLION OF CAPITAL OVER THE NINE YEARS, OF WHICH ABOUT 30% WOULD HAVE BEEN FUNDED THROUGH DEBT, AND THE OUTPUT OF THE MODEL WAS SHOWN ABOUT A 15% INCREASE IN REVENUE REQUIREMENTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

BASED ON THE INFORMATION AND DIRECTION OF COUNCIL COMING BACK TO WHERE WE'RE AT CURRENTLY, AS WE HAVE LISTED AS, AS I WOULD SAY, SMALL F FOR FINAL.

AS WE CONTINUE TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT 163 MILLION AND CAPITAL EXPENDITURES OVER THE OVER THE NINE YEAR PLANNING PERIOD AND ABOUT 44% IN DEBT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE OUTPUT OF THAT WOULD REQUIRE A 10% INCREASE IN CURRENT REVENUES TO ACHIEVE THAT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

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OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WERE AROUND ABOUT 113 MILLION AND CIP FOR WASTEWATER, OF WHICH 21% WAS TO BE DEBT FINANCED WITH AN OUTPUT OF TWO CONSECUTIVE 25% INCREASES, FOLLOWED BY A 15, TEN AND 5%.

BASED ON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.

AGAIN, OUR SMALL F FINAL IS NOW TARGETING ABOUT $97 MILLION OF CAPITAL PROJECTS OVER THAT PLANNING PERIOD, WITH ABOUT 27% OF IT COVERED IN DEBT.

AND THE OUTPUT MODEL NOW SHOWS TWO CONSECUTIVE 20% INCREASES, THEN FOLLOWED BY A TEN AND TWO 5% FOR THAT YEAR.

AND THEN WE DID PUT A COMBINED FINAL.

SO TOTAL CIP FOR WATER WASTEWATER TARGET WOULD BE ABOUT 260 MILLION OVER THAT PLANNING PERIOD.

WITH THAT 38% OF THE CIP FUNDED WITH DEBT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE THE MODEL OUTPUTS FOR THE NEEDED INCREASE IN REVENUE TO ACHIEVE THAT.

BEFORE I MOVE TO THE BILL IMPACTS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OVER THAT? THE DIRECTION OF WHAT THE MODEL OUTPUTS WERE? COUNCIL QUESTIONS.

OH. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

SHANNON A COUPLE OF SLIDES BACK WHEN YOU SHOWED THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE.

OH, YOU WENT TOO FAR.

YES. I THOUGHT ON YOUR EMAIL, IT'S YOU AND I WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH THAT AFTER YEAR FIVE YOU WERE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ESCALATION.

AND YET I SEE 5% HERE.

MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO OUR CURRENT RECOMMENDATION OR REQUEST COMING BEFORE COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT A FIVE YEAR RATE PLAN.

THAT WOULD LOOK AT FIVE YEARS.

WHAT THE MODEL DOES IS IT GOES AHEAD AND PROJECTS OUT THE TEN YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING ON THE HORIZON ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THE MODEL IS LOOKING AT THAT NORMALIZES BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE, MAYBE ABOUT A 5% GOING FORWARD.

BUT THAT IS NOT OUR REQUEST.

WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THE FIVE YEAR FUNDING STRATEGY FOR THE RATE STUDY.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. SO THEN JUST MOVING AHEAD TO TALK ABOUT THE BILL IMPACTS AS WE MOVE THROUGH THAT.

SO SPECIFICALLY FOR WATER WHAT WE SEE HERE IS THE FIXED COST AND THE IMPACT OF OUR CURRENT MODEL RUN FOR THE METER SIZE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE FOR THE FIVE YEAR PLANNING.

HOW THOSE HOW THOSE CHANGE.

I WILL MAKE IT A NOTE TO POINT OUT FOR THOSE THAT CROSS WALK IT BACK TO OUR CURRENT, WE ARE SEEING FOR MOST OF THOSE METER SIZES A SLIGHT DECREASE.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S ATTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND LOWERING THAT FIXED REVENUE FROM 29% TO 25%, WHICH ALLOWS, AGAIN, THAT MORE CONTROL FOR A CUSTOMER TO HAVE CONTROL OVER THEIR THEIR MONTHLY BILL BY CONTROLLING THEIR VOLUMETRIC.

AND SO WE DO SEE A SLIGHT DECREASE AS THAT SHIFTS FROM THE VARIABLE COST TO THE FIXED COST.

AND THEN THOSE FIXED COSTS CONTINUE OVER THE FIVE YEARS.

SUBSEQUENTLY, YOU CAN SEE DOWN ON THE BOTTOM THE IMPACT OF THE VOLUMETRIC RATE FOR EACH OF THE TIERS.

AGAIN, POINTING OUT THAT AN EMPHASIS WAS MADE OVER THE TIERS TO, TO DISCUSSIONS ON WHERE SOME OF THE PEAKING WAS SHIFTED TO THE HIGHER TIER.

SO AGAIN, THE HIGHER WATER USE FOR RESIDENTIAL WILL DRIVE THOSE COSTS UP, WHILE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE THE SMART WATER CUSTOMERS, THE ONES THAT CAN GET DOWN TO THE TIER ONE, TIER TWO WILL WILL SEE AN INCREASED BENEFIT AND A MINIMIZE IMPACT.

ON THEM AS WELL.

RECLAIM REMAINS ATTACHED TO TO WATER POLICY.

AND SO CURRENT RECOMMENDATION IS THAT DUSTY ATTACHED AT THIS TIME AND SO VERY SIMILAR TO THE RATE MODELS.

THE METER SIZES ARE THE SAME CHARGES.

SO THAT STAYS THE SAME.

AND THE IMPACT TO RECLAIM WOULD STILL MIRROR WATER AS THEY ARE ATTACHED PERCENT WISE.

SO WHAT WOULD THE AVERAGE BILL IMPACT ON WHAT YOU THINK IS INTERESTING? I DO WANT TO AGAIN POINT OUT THAT WE DO HAVE THE RATE CALCULATOR THAT'S BEEN BUILT.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK INTO UPDATE, MAKE SURE THAT'S AS CURRENT AS POSSIBLE THROUGH THE THE STANTEC REMODEL.

WE ARE USING AN AVERAGE OF ALL THE BILLS.

I THINK THE QUESTION COMES UP IS LIKE WHO'S AVERAGE? BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT IT DOES IS IT TAKES AN AVERAGE OF THE RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S ASSUMING A 4000 GALLON A MONTH OF VOLUME ON A THREE QUARTER INCH METER.

YOU CAN SEE THAT CURRENT WATER BILL PORTION AND THEN HOW THAT WOULD CHANGE OVER THE FIVE YEARS.

WE ALSO DO THE SAME FOR A ONE INCH COMMERCIAL THAT IS ASSUMING A 40,000 GALLON A MONTH.

CONSUMPTION RATE.

NOW, UNDER COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, OUR CURRENT SCENARIO WHERE WE'RE AT, WE HAVE THAT COMPARISON CONTRAST WHERE WE SEE AGAIN THAT THREE QUARTER INCH METER USING 4000 GALLONS A

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AND AGAIN EMPHASIZING FOR WATER THAT THAT'S ONCE WE GET THE ALIGNMENT FROM THE COST OF SERVICE STUDY, THEN YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE THE 10% MORE FLUID ACROSS THOSE, THE CUSTOMER CLASSES WHERE THAT FIRST YEAR IS A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC TO A CLASS AND A CUSTOMER.

I DO JUST WANT TO PAUSE. I DID PUT A HANDOUT BEFORE YOU THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS.

THESE ARE JUST COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER.

AND SO AGAIN, IT'S HIGHLIGHTING THE RATE CALCULATOR THAT CAN BE FOUND ON OUR CLEAN WATER FLAGSTAFF.

COM BUT ULTIMATELY HIGHLIGHTING THAT ON ON THE FIRST PAGE IT SHOWS THE RATE CALCULATOR.

THERE'S A BOX THERE WITH SOME INFORMATION THAT SHOWS THE CURRENT THREE QUARTER INCH METER A LITTLE OVER $16 PER MONTH FIXED COST.

THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL DID LOWER THAT TO ABOUT 1433.

AND NOW UNDER THE NEW MODEL DIRECTIVES FROM COUNCIL THAT THAT WOULD BE $14.23.

AGAIN, A MAJORITY OF THAT REDUCTION IS ABOUT THAT SHIFT OF OF FIXED COST OR VARIABLE COST AT 29%, MOVING TO 25% OF REVENUE RECOVERED FROM FIXED COSTS FOR WATER. AND THEN IT SHOWS THE FIVE YEAR PROGRESSION.

AND THIS WAS JUST AN EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE.

I DO APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S ENGAGEMENT AND WILLINGNESS TO MEET OUTSIDE OF THIS FORUM.

I KNOW YOU GUYS SPENT A LOT OF TIME WE WORK THROUGH THIS, BUT ALSO THAT YOU DO REACH OUT WITH EMAILS.

WE'VE TAKEN A FEW PHONE CALLS AND THAT YOU JUST TAKE TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY TO MEET TO REALLY DIG IN AND GO THROUGH, AND WE TRY TO HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE ARE COMING FROM AND WHAT THEY MEAN.

GREAT QUESTIONS AND HELPS US ALSO TO TO WORK ON OUR COMMUNICATION, BUT THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AS IT GOES FORWARD.

GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR SHANNON.

AND AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

ONE OF MY STRUGGLES IS JUST APPLES TO APPLES AND JUST.

I'M A VISUAL.

SO WHERE AM I MISSING WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN UP THERE? YOU'RE SHOWING US AN EXAMPLE OF A COMMERCIAL WITH A VOLUME OF 40,000 A MONTH.

AND YET THE BACK AND FORTH EMAIL THAT WE DID IN THE EXAMPLE FROM MAY 16TH THROUGH WHAT WE WERE DOING TONIGHT, WAS 51,007 50.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE THERE? YES. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS AGAIN, AS WE RUN THROUGH THE SCENARIOS, EACH CUSTOMER IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AND SO AGAIN, I SAY STANTEC IS USING AN AVERAGE BILL VOLUME.

I FEEL STAFF, WHEN WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER OUR ASSESSMENT OF SCENARIO, WE USE NUMBERS THAT WE THOUGHT MAY BE TYPICAL FOR A RESIDENT.

THAT WOULD BE FOR FOR PEOPLE IN A IN A RESIDENT NUMBER AS OPPOSED TO THE AVERAGE.

SO THAT NUMBER DOES GO UP FOR RESIDENTIAL AND FOR THE COMMERCIAL.

WE DID TAKE A SAMPLE SET OUT OF A WHAT WE CONSIDER A TYPICAL ONE INCH ACTUAL METER DATA.

SO PROBABLY COULDN'T TELL YOU THE CUSTOMER IF I WANTED TO, BUT STRICTLY FROM THE BILLING DATA, WE PICKED ONE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER KIND OF MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

THAT USE WAS 51,750 GALLONS A MONTH, FAIRLY CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

AND WE RAN THOSE ONE TO TEST OUR RATE MODEL TO SEE IF THOSE ARE MAKING SURE THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOOD, AND THEN JUST USE THAT AS ANOTHER EXAMINATION WHERE, AGAIN, A CUSTOMER MAY NOT BE AVERAGE.

WHAT IF THEY'RE A LITTLE ABOVE AVERAGE? THE RATE CALCULATOR WILL HELP EACH PERSON WALK THROUGH INDIVIDUALLY THEIR BILL TO GET A BEST SENSE OF IT.

BUT OUR DEMONSTRATION WAS A DIFFERENT VOLUME THAN THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF THE STANTEC WAS USING.

AND SO I DID CROSS WALK OVER THE CURRENT PROPOSED, AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN MAY 16TH AND PRESENTED JUNE 4TH ON THE BACK OF THAT HANDOUT TO SHOW THE DIFFERENCE AND SHOWING THE DECREASE ACROSS THOSE FIVE YEARS FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

ON THE ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE AGAIN TAKING THE CURRENT DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

SO LOOKING AT THAT BASE FEE AGAIN SET BY METER SIZE.

THIS DOES NOT CURRENTLY EXIST.

THIS IS A NEW INITIATIVE WHERE WE'RE PUTTING BASE COSTS INTO WASTEWATER.

IT DOES A COUPLE THINGS.

ONE, IT CREATES SOME RATE STABILITY FOR WASTEWATER.

SO IT'S NOT ALL VOLUMETRIC.

ALSO KIND OF HELPS MOVE THE GAP ON THE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY NOT BE HERE FULL TIME, RIGHT, THAT THEY'RE STILL PAYING TO HAVE THAT SERVICE AVAILABLE.

SO IT DOES SET THAT BASE RATE FOR, FOR THE SEWER RATES AND THEN THE VOLUMETRIC NUMBERS AS THEY EQUATE NOW WITH THE MODEL ASSUMPTIONS.

AND SO WHAT COULD A CUSTOMER EXPECT TO SEE IN THAT AVERAGE IMPACT BILL?

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WHAT THEIR CURRENT.

AVERAGE BILL WOULD BE AND THE CHANGE OVER THE FIVE YEARS.

AND THE SAME FOR THAT COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER WITH ONE INCH USING 17,600 GALLONS A MONTH.

AND THEN AGAIN ON THE BACK OF THE HANDOUT, WE DID BOTH WATER WASTEWATER FOR THE OTHER SCENARIO WE PRESENTED ON MAY 16TH.

AGAIN, JUST A VERY SIMILAR DATA, BUT JUST MULTIPLE SCENARIOS OF WATER USE AND NOT SO MUCH THE METER SIZE.

SO BEING ABLE TO ADD TO THE LIST.

SO WE'VE BEEN TRACKING THIS LIST FROM THE BEGINNING.

AGAIN WHAT ARE THE RATE STUDIES COUNCIL DIRECTIONS SUMMARY AND WHAT IS THE IMPACT OR MINIMIZING THAT IMPACT TO THE RATEPAYERS.

SO AGAIN JUST HIGHLIGHTING THAT I'M USING ACTUAL FLOWS VERSUS DESIGN FLOWS TO MINIMIZE THAT CAPACITY FEE ADDING SOLIDS LOADING COMPONENT TO THE CAPACITY FEES ALSO HELP TO MINIMIZE THAT THAT IMPACT TO THOSE, THOSE CUSTOMERS REDUCING THAT REVENUE REQUIREMENT COVERED FROM THE BASE FEE FROM 29 TO 25%.

AND GIVEN THAT CONTROL BACK TO THE THE WATER USER ASSUMING A 90% EXECUTION RATE ON THE OPERATING BUDGET, ADJUSTING THOSE RESIDENTIAL TIERS TO REDUCE BILLS FOR SMART WATER CUSTOMERS IN TIERS ONE AND TWO.

MOVING THOSE SOME OF THOSE PEAK CHARGES TO THE HIGHER TIERS, CONSOLIDATING CUSTOMER CLASSES, WHICH MAKES A SIMPLER STRUCTURE BUT ALSO REDUCE THE RATES FOR SEVERAL OF OF THE CUSTOMER CLASSES.

ADJUSTING THOSE MISCELLANEOUS FEES.

I KNOW THAT WAS PAINSTAKINGLY THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER FEES, BUT THE EMPHASIS THAT THAT THE FEES ARE COVERING THE COST OF THAT SERVICE AND IT'S NOT ON THE MONTHLY MUNICIPAL UTILITY MUNICIPAL SERVICES BILL THAT THEY'RE BEING PAID BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROVIDING OR RECEIVING THOSE SERVICES.

AND NOW ADDING ANOTHER CHECK WHERE INCREASING THE DEBT LIMIT THE PERCENT OF CIP THAT WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH DEBT AND REDUCING THAT EXECUTION RATE ON THE CAPITAL PROGRAM IS JUST ADDED TO A LIST OF THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH OVER THE LAST NINE MONTHS.

TO PUT THE UTILITY IN A GOOD POSITION TO BE FINANCIALLY SOUND, TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD AND PAY FOR THE THINGS WE NEED TO.

BUT IN ADDITION, KNOWING THAT THERE'S THIS LENS THAT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT, THE END RESULT OF, WHAT DOES THAT IMPACT AND OPPORTUNITIES OF HOW WE CAN MINIMIZE THAT IMPACT, AND HOW COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY STRATEGIC AND DILIGENT, AND EACH STEP OF THE PROCESS TO HAVE THAT THROUGH CONSIDERATION.

SO AS WE AS I CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION, I THINK JUST ONE OF THE OUTCOMES WE'D BE LOOKING FOR IS, AGAIN, THAT CONFIRMATION THAT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, WE'RE PRESENTING THE RESULTS THAT THOSE ARE THE EXPECTED RESULTS THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO SEE GETTING THAT CONFIRMATION BECAUSE STAFF IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD TO TO FINALIZE ALL THE RED LINES, TO GET THE PACKET READY TO COME BACK, TO STILL BE ON SCHEDULE TO BE BEFORE YOU ON JUNE 18TH.

IN ADDITION, THE NEXT STEPS WOULD ALSO BE UPDATING ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH WITH NOW THE LATEST AND GREATEST INFORMATION.

WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO SOME INDIVIDUALS.

WE'LL MEET WITH SOME TOMORROW.

WE'VE BEEN WALKING THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT REALLY GETTING COUNCIL'S CONFIRMATION ALLOWS US TO GO AND GET THAT COMMUNICATION OUT OF WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT, WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT, AND FURTHER THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

PREPARING THE FINAL CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE TO GET PAPERWORK READY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WOULD STILL BE SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 18TH AND JULY 2ND.

AND WITH THAT I THANK YOU AND WE WILL DEFINITELY STAND FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. SHANNON.

QUESTIONS. CAN YOU GO BACK ABOUT FOUR SLIDES? ACTUALLY GO FORWARD ONE.

SORRY. OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I AT THE LAST MEETING, I ASKED FOR SOME INFORMATION ABOUT ACTUAL FLOW DATA VERSUS DESIGN FLOW DATA, AND I RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE HOW THAT WHAT THAT DID TO THE RATES.

AND IT WAS REALLY VERY, VERY MINIMAL IMPACT TO THE RATES.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

I APPRECIATE GETTING, GETTING THE ANSWER TO THAT.

COUNCIL. QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

WHAT IS OUR DIRECTION TO STAFF? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I BELIEVE THAT THE NUMBERS YOU CAME UP WITH THIS TIME ARE GOOD.

I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT IT REDUCED THE INCREASES THAT THE CUSTOMERS WILL HAVE TO PAY, BUT STILL YOU KNOW, DOING WHAT WE REALLY ACTUALLY NEED TO DO.

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WE'LL SEE WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THINK.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I JUST WANT TO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

REALLY APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WENT INTO GETTING THIS PRESENTATION BACK TO US AND SHOWING WHAT THOSE CHANGES MADE.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE FOR THE COMMUNITY JUST THE LEVEL OF ATTENTION THAT NOT ONLY WE HAVE BEEN PAYING TO THIS, BUT ALSO THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PAYING TO THIS AS THE TEAM.

IT'S IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED YOUR WILLINGNESS TO RETURN TO THIS INFORMATION BASED ON FEEDBACK, NOT ONLY FROM US, BUT ALSO FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND BE WILLING TO ENGAGE IN THAT TO, AS COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY SAID, HIT THAT SWEET SPOT WHERE WE ARE CONSIDERING BOTH THE NEED AND THE IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY IN THIS.

SO IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED.

AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER MCCARTHY THAT THIS IS REALLY MOVING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MATTHEWS THANK YOU.

MAYOR. AND I RECOGNIZE THAT I'VE MISSED THE LAST TWO WEEKS BECAUSE I WAS NOT HERE.

BUT. AND I KNOW THAT.

I'M SURE YOU'RE ANXIOUS TO GET THIS MOVING FORWARD, BUT DID WE GIVE FINAL DIRECTION ON THE IMPACT FEES? MAYOR COUNCIL MATTHEWS.

YES. SO FOR UTILITY SERVICES, THOSE ARE THE CAPACITY FEES.

AND SO WE DID GET FINAL DIRECTION.

SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO AGAIN, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, THE I FEEL LIKE THE MAIN TWO ASSUMPTIONS IN THE MODEL IS LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL FLOWS VERSUS OVER DESIGN AND INCLUDING THOSE LOADINGS ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, WHICH WERE BOTH CONSIDERATIONS THAT KIND OF BROUGHT DOWN THAT CAPACITY FEE UHMS. KIND OF PROBABLY MORE THE MIDDLE OF THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

SO GAS FEES ARE INCREASING, BUT NOT TO THE MAGNITUDE OF THE DESIGN.

I THINK MOST OF THE CONVERSATION, I THINK, WAS AROUND HOW THAT GETS PUSHED ON TO THE, TO THE END BUYER OF THE HOME AND TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE.

THANK YOU. AND.

MY PERSONAL THOUGHT IS THAT I'D LIKE TO FINISH OUT THE WEEK COMMUNICATING WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, WHICH IS THE MOST THE, THE CUSTOMERS THAT WILL HAVE THE MOST IMPACT.

I STILL FEEL A LITTLE UNSETTLED THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OUR CONSULTANTS ARE USING ONE METHODOLOGY, WE'RE USING ANOTHER.

AND SO TO REALLY GET A HANDLE ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT REALLY IS THE IMPACT.

I DON'T FEEL TOTALLY.

I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AFTER OUR CONVERSATION TODAY, BUT WE STILL HAVEN'T CUT DOWN THE IMPACT AS SIGNIFICANT AS I THOUGHT. I'M MORE AGREEABLE TO THIS, NEW TO THE CHANGES THAT YOU'VE MADE, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT INTO MAKING THOSE CHANGES AND COMING UP WITH A SCENARIO THAT STILL GETS US WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

BUT AND THIS IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE POPULAR, BUT I KIND OF LIKE TO WAIT TILL WE GET THROUGH THIS WEEK AND THEN GIVE YOU OUR DIRECTION NEXT TUESDAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

I DON'T THINK I HAVE A QUESTION.

I THINK I HAVE A COMMENT, I HAD ASKED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND I HAD NOT RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION YET.

CITY MANAGER, YOU REMEMBER THE EMAIL I SENT YOU? COULD YOU PLEASE REMIND ME? COUNCIL MEMBER I ASKED ABOUT SOME FIGURES THAT WERE GIVEN TO US BY MR. PUGH, STEVE, AND WHY WE WEREN'T USING THOSE NUMBERS OR WHY THEY WEREN'T INCORPORATED INTO THAT.

WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THEM? DID THEY NOT FIT? YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, AND I WAS TOLD THAT I WOULD GET THAT INFORMATION, BUT I HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT YET.

WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO IT TONIGHT, BUT I STILL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT INFORMATION OR ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

AND I BELIEVE THOSE NUMBERS THAT HE WAS FOCUSED ON FOCUSING ON SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED POPULATION PROJECTION AS WELL AS INFLATION.

TO SOME EXTENT, YES.

YEAH. OKAY.

AND THEN I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO SIT UP HERE EVERY WEEK THAT WE DO THIS AND REMIND STAFF ABOUT HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

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SO IF I DON'T SAY IT, DON'T THINK THAT I DON'T APPRECIATE IT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD GET THAT INFORMATION.

THANK YOU. SHANNON JONES I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN COMMENT ON RIGHT HERE AND NOW.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NUMBERS THROWN OUT, BUT SPECIFIC TO MR. PIERCE'S COMMENTS ABOUT SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS ON POPULATION GROWTH PROJECTIONS ESCALATION COSTS OR INFLATION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON THAT? YES, SIR. CITY MANAGER.

MAYOR. COUNCIL. SO, FOR ONE CITY MANAGER CLIFTON DID GIVE ME THAT EMAIL.

I'LL SAY THAT EMAIL IS IN MY COURT.

WE DO HAVE THE RESPONSE DRAFTED.

AND HE DID TELL ME HE DID NOT HAVE TO VET THAT BY HIM TO SEND IT.

I THINK IT MAYBE JUST GOT LOST IN THE SHUFFLE, BUT I WILL GET THAT TO YOU ASAP.

AND BUT INTO RESPONSE, I THINK MAYBE A KIND OF A PREQUEL TO THAT RESPONSE.

I THINK WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS KIND OF GOING THROUGH WHERE THERE ARE THERE'S REASONS WHY THERE'S DIFFERENT MODELS, THERE'S DIFFERENT ASSUMPTIONS.

I THINK WE TALK ABOUT WHY WHY WE LANDED ON THESE AND WE TALK THROUGH SO SPECIFICALLY WE, WE I KNOW WHILE WE DO TAKE POPULATION GROWTH INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN IT COMES TO THE RATE MODEL, IT'S LOOKING AT THOSE NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS, HOW MANY METERS ARE GOING TO BE BUILT.

WHEN IT LOOKS AT INFLATION WE'RE NOT USING THE HIGH NUMBERS.

SO SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE THAT'S MISCOMMUNICATED.

WE USE THESE MAYBE NOT FUN FACTS, RIGHT.

BUT TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF WHATEVER WE'RE DOING BEING 130% HIGHER.

THE MODEL IS NOT ASSUMING THAT THOSE PRICES ARE THERE.

I THINK THAT THEY'RE VERY MODERATE.

WE DID PULL OUT THE THREE THAT WE'VE SEEN MORE SIGNIFICANTLY, WHICH IS THE CHEMICALS, THE REPAIRS, AND THERE'S A THIRD ONE THAT IS SLIPPING MY MIND RIGHT NOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. BUT BUT EVEN LIKE, PERSONNEL, LIKE, THERE'S RATIONALE WHY THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AND SO WE STILL STAND BY THOSE, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT DRAFT RESPONSE THAT REINFORCES THOSE.

AND I WILL DEFINITELY GET THAT TO YOU.

AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY ON THAT.

I KNOW YOU ALL ARE BUSY.

I GET IT, I'M PATIENT.

YES, PLEASE.

EXCUSE ME, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER.

HARRIS. CAROL, DID READ MR. PORTER'S EMAIL AND DID HELP US WITH THE RESPONSE.

AND I WANTED TO GIVE CAROL AN OPPORTUNITY TO PERHAPS RESPOND NOW RATHER THAN WAITING.

HI, CAROL.

ARE YOU ABLE TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION FROM OR THE STEVE PAUSE PROPOSAL AND COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS'S QUESTION, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE COMFORTABLE ANSWERING NOW, OR SHOULD WE WAIT FOR THE EMAIL? I AM. IF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU. SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS AND OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WE DID REVIEW THAT LETTER FROM MR. POOR, AND WE HAVE A FEW OBSERVATIONS.

WE DID GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH HIM A FEW WEEKS AGO, AS WELL AS WITH STAFF, AND WE GOT A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MODEL THAT HE HAD CREATED.

DURING OUR DISCUSSIONS, WE REALIZED THAT HE HAD MADE SOME ASSUMPTIONS IN HIS FORECAST THAT SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTED THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT HE WAS ASSUMING.

ONE OF THOSE WAS ACTUALLY THE ASSUMED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.

THAT'S REALLY THE STARTING POINT FOR FORECASTING FORWARD THROUGH THE REST OF THE PERIOD OF THE MODELS.

SO THAT FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET WAS EXTREMELY UNDERESTIMATED.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT IT WAS ARBITRARY THAT IN DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM, IT WASN'T REALLY DOCUMENTED AS TO WHY THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 WAS ASSUMED.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE NOTICED GIVEN THAT FORECAST.

THE SECOND ITEM, AGAIN, WAS THAT IN OUR FORECAST AND IN WORKING WITH STAFF, WE HAVE TWO BASIC ESCALATION FACTORS.

ONE WAS THE STANDARD OR THE GENERAL INFLATION FACTOR OF THE 3.5%.

THE OTHER WAS WHAT MR. JONES WAS SAYING WAS THE OTHER ESCALATION FACTOR FOR COSTS THAT WERE HIGHER OR ESCALATING HIGHER THAN THE GENERAL INFLATION.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CHEMICALS, ELECTRICITY, AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE REPAIR COSTS, SO THAT WE HAVE APPLIED AND BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE DIFFERENT COSTS AND USE THAT IN OUR FORECAST. SO TWO DIFFERENT ESCALATION FACTORS, WHEREAS THE PROPOSED RESULTS ASSUMED ONE SINGLE ESCALATION FACTOR FOR ALL EXPENSES. SO WE FEEL THAT THAT WAS A SIMPLIFIED ASSUMPTION.

OF COURSE. OUR MODEL GOES INTO A LOT OF THE OTHER DETAILS FOR THE FORECAST, BUT IT RESULTS IN VERY DIFFERENT ANSWERS.

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SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT MY RESPONSE SAYS.

AND I APOLOGIZE, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, THAT YOU DID NOT GET A COPY OF THIS, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU AND EVERYONE CAN GET A COPY OF THIS RESPONSE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU CAROL.

THANK YOU. SHANNON.

I, I KNOW SEVERAL OF US HAVE ASKED ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO ROUND UP ON WATER BILLS TO CREATE A FUND TO HELP RESIDENTS WHO MIGHT NEED SOME ASSISTANCE.

AND I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WE'RE NOT SURE THAT OUR SYSTEM WILL DO THAT.

AND I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS AGAIN THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE.

I KNOW THAT I KNOW WE HAVE PARAMETERS AND WHATNOT, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.

COUNCIL. DIRECTION.

QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TAKING MY CALL TODAY ONCE AGAIN.

AND I TOO AM INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN ROUND UP ON OUR BILL WHATEVER IT TAKES TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN.

AND SHANNON, I'M WONDERING TO COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEW'S QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME MEETINGS COMING UP WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

IF WE GO FORWARD TONIGHT AND SOMETHING COMES TO LIGHT WITH OUR MEETINGS WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY THIS WEEK, CAN WE COME BACK AND ADJUST SOMETHING BEFORE THIS IS ALL FINAL? MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

YES. AS WE GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ULTIMATELY, I'M ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS.

COUNCIL HAS THAT ULTIMATE CONTROL.

THANK YOU. SO MY DIRECTION WOULD BE THAT I THINK THAT THIS REFLECTS OUR DISCUSSION OF LAST WEEK.

AGAIN, APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALL TAKE THE PHONE CALLS AND THE EMAILS AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL SENDS SO MANY EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS FROM EVERY, EVERY ANGLE POSSIBLE.

SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOVING FORWARD AS IT IS.

AND I HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY SAY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE VICE MAYOR. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT WILL GET ANSWERED IN THE UPCOMING WEEKS.

PERFECT. IS THAT GOOD? IT'S GOOD FOR ME. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE ROUNDING HOME OR.

WAIT A MINUTE. NO, YOU. ROUND THIRD.

COMING HOME.

YEAH. NO, WE'VE ROUNDED HOME AND WE'RE HEADING BACK TO FIRST, SO LET'S JUST START ALL OVER AGAIN.

OKAY. 12 FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS.

[12. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS After discussion and upon agreement by three members of the Council, an item will be moved to a regularly-scheduled Council meeting.]

WOULD YOU LIKE TO ME TO SAY A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT IT? YOU MAY REMEMBER A FEW WEEKS AGO THAT WE HAD A CITIZEN COME BEFORE US THAT HAD HAD THEIR CAR TOWED, AND THE PRICES TO HER SEEMED VERY UNREASONABLE AND TO ME SEEMED UNREASONABLE.

IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS KIND OF A CASE OF GOUGING.

NOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT UNDER STATE LAW, THE CITY CAN ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AND PUT SOME REGULATIONS ON HOW MUCH CAN BE CHARGED FOR SIMILAR SITUATIONS.

SO MY FARE ITEM IS TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

AND I GUESS THERE WAS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT THEY WOULDN'T LET HER PAY WITH A CREDIT CARD.

I MEAN, IT WAS HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS.

AND HOW MANY PEOPLE CARRY AROUND HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS.

SO ANYWAY, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME REASONABLE BUSINESS PRACTICES.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE STAFF YOU KNOW, KIND OF LOOK INTO THIS, SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES DO, AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE SITUATION IS FAIR.

MAYBE IT WAS FAIR, BUT IT DIDN'T SEEM THAT WAY.

BUT I'M HOPING THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE STAFF CAN LOOK INTO THIS.

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THANK YOU. THUMBS UP FOR HAVING THIS FUTURE DISCUSSION.

MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER.

I MEAN COUNCIL MEMBER.

CITY MANAGER.

YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THAT.

MAYOR. THANK YOU.

A CLARIFYING COMMENT, IF I MAY, AND THEN I'VE ASKED OUR LEGAL COUNSEL JUST TO OFFER SOME VERY HIGH LEVEL COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT UNDERLIES THIS FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, AND MOST OF IT IS LEGAL. THE CLARIFYING COMMENT IS SIMPLY THIS WHAT IS DRIVING THIS QUESTION? AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, FOR GIVING THAT NARRATIVE DOES NOT CONCERN CITY TOWING OPERATIONS.

THE CITY, OF COURSE, OPERATES A LOT OF PUBLIC PARKING LOTS, AND WE DO FROM TIME TO TIME MAYBE GET INTO ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS. BUT THIS IS BEING DRIVEN ENTIRELY BY A PRIVATE TOW TOWING SERVICE ON A PRIVATE LOT.

AND I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT CLARIFICATION OUT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL ALSO ADDRESS IT, IF I COULD.

I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY AND COUNCIL.

I I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS ALLOWED UNDER STATE LAW IS CREATING A CAP.

NO MORE THAN THIS AMOUNT CAN BE CHARGED FOR TOWING.

THERE ARE SOME SIMILAR SITUATIONS IN OTHER SIMILAR CITIES, SUCH AS TEMPE AND TUCSON.

IF COUNCIL DOES GIVE THE THUMBS UP, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO, THEN WE WOULD LIKELY COMPARE SOME OF THOSE.

MARY ANN SULLIVAN WOULD BE THE LEAD ON IT BECAUSE TYPICALLY THIS INVOLVES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ALL AWARE THAT THE STATUTE IT'S ARS 949905AI THINK.

BUT THE ALLOWS THAT CAP TO BE CREATED AS FAR AS CREDIT CARD PAYMENTS VERSUS CASH PAYMENTS.

I JUST WANT TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANY ROLE IN THAT WHATSOEVER, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANKS. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE THUMBS UP.

WE HAVE THUMBS UP.

JUST MAKE A REALLY QUICK. SURE.

I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SAID.

I TALKED TO THE WOMAN THAT COMPLAINED TO US, AND THE INCIDENT THAT SHE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT HAPPENED IN A TOWNHOME TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT.

IT WAS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH CITY TOWING OF ANYTHING.

CITY WAS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY WAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

MOVING DOWN TO 12 B A FARE REQUEST BY COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

AND THIS IS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT EXPANDING THE EMPLOYER ASSISTED HOUSING PROGRAM.

COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THIS? SURE, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

SO WHAT I'M HOPING IS THAT WE CAN PUT THIS ON AN AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS FURTHER.

WE ALREADY HAVE AN ALLOCATION TO INCENTIVIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT GOVERNMENT CAN'T SOLVE OUR HOUSING CRISIS BY ITSELF.

BUT WE CAN PROVIDE INCENTIVES A LOT.

ISN'T MONEY OUT OF OUR POCKETS.

IT'S JUST LOSS OF REVENUE.

BUT I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT FAIRLY BROAD.

WHETHER IT'S INCENTIVIZING THEM TO BUILD OR WAIVING OF FEES AND, AND PERMITS.

SO I'D LIKE TO JUST PUT IT ON AN AGENDA ITEM SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT FURTHER AND SEE IF WE CAN JUST PEEL ANOTHER LAYER OFF THE ONION OF OUR HOUSING CRISIS AND DO SOMETHING TO HELP. THERE'S A LOT OF EMPLOYERS THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF EMPLOYEE HOUSING.

AND THIS MIGHT HELP JUST GIVE THEM THE BOOST THAT THEY NEED.

SO. THANK YOU.

AND THERE THERE ARE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS GOING ON ABOUT THIS.

AND I'M WONDERING SARAH, MAY I CALL UPON YOU? IS THIS DOES THIS TIE IN WITH THE INCENTIVE POLICY AND THE CODE WORK AND THE WORK OF THE HOUSING STAFF AND COMMISSION? MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

SARAH DA, HOUSING DIRECTOR.

THAT WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU SAID.

MAYOR I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE ARE AWARE OF SOME OF THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN.

OTHERS EMPLOYER ASSISTED HOUSING, OF COURSE, IS IS A FULL GAMUT FROM GENERAL EDUCATION ALL THE WAY UP TO, LIKE, COMPANY TYPE HOUSING.

WE HAVE BEEN EXPLORING DIFFERENT EMPLOYER ASSISTED HOUSING OPTIONS.

WE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT INCENTIVES INVOLVING BUILDING PERMITS, WAIVING FEES, THAT TYPE OF THING, SPECIFICALLY FOR

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AND SO WE COULD CERTAINLY TAKE RESULTS FROM THE CAP ANALYSIS AND EXAMINE WHAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO WITH A SEPARATE INCENTIVE POLICY.

THERE. WE HAVE BEEN KICKING AROUND AND I SAY KICKING AROUND BECAUSE OUR OUR STAFF TIME IS FOCUSED IN OTHER AREAS AT THE MOMENT, BUT WE CONTINUE TO EXPLORE DIFFERENT IDEAS OF PERHAPS CREATING A MATCHING PROGRAM OR CREATING SOMETHING THAT WOULD ASSIST EMPLOYERS, ESPECIALLY SMALLER EMPLOYERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS THE HOUSING NEEDS OF THEIR EMPLOYEES WITH OUR ENCOURAGEMENT.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SARAH.

SO MY THOUGHTS WERE ON THE BUDGET LINE.

ITEM INCENTIVES.

THAT'S OUTSIDE THE HOUSING.

YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT WHAT YOU DO IN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.

I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

THERE'S DISCUSSIONS THROUGH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, BUT MINE WAS MORE FOCUSED ON THAT CONTROVERSIAL LINE ITEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR WITH WARS.

WHERE THE CITY TOOK IT OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, BUT WAS ABLE TO REIMBURSE THEM FOR SOME FEES AND STUFF.

AND SO IS THAT SEPARATE THAN WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS NO.

SO THE BUDGET ALLOCATION FOR BOTH UNDER THE AWARD TO RAUS AND THEN THE BUDGET LINE ITEM BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR IS DIRECT TO THE INCENTIVE POLICY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE INCENTIVES PROVIDED THROUGH THAT BOTH REGULATORY AND FINANCIAL.

SO THAT MONEY AS I BELIEVE, UNLESS IT'S FLEXIBLE SOMEHOW I'M NOT AWARE OF WAS SET ASIDE SPECIFICALLY TO FUND THAT INCENTIVE POLICY.

AND THAT'S FUNDING THAT HAS GONE.

TRADITIONALLY TO HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, HOUSING SOLUTIONS, TAX CREDIT DEVELOPER, ETC.

IN ORDER TO ASSIST IN BRINGING AFFORDABLE UNITS ONLINE.

IT DOES NOT HAVE A SEPARATE PROVISION FOR EMPLOYER ASSISTED HOUSING.

HOWEVER, IF THE EMPLOYERS WERE PROVIDING HOUSING THAT FITS WITHIN THE AFFORDABILITY CATEGORIES, THEN IT WOULD APPLY.

SO MY INTENT IS TO BROADEN THAT SCOPE TO NOT ONLY USE IT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT ALSO MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR LOCAL EMPLOYERS FOR EMPLOYEE HOUSING.

MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

MOST CERTAINLY THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOT WORKED ON.

THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN EXAMINING, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WRAP INTO.

LET ME REPHRASE THAT.

THE INCENTIVE POLICY NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.

WE'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT FOR A LONG TIME.

THAT IS PART OF THE OUTCOMES OF THE CAP PROJECT.

SO IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WRAP INTO.

MICHELLE, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, I'M NOT ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL WORK.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WRAP INTO THE REWRITE OF THAT.

SHOULD THAT BE COUNCIL'S DESIRE.

SO YES, CITY MANAGER SAID THAT WE HAVE CAPABILITIES WITHIN OUR STAFFING TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE THINGS.

RIGHT. EXCELLENT.

AND IN DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.

BUT SO THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO PUT IT ON AN AGENDA ITEM SO WE CAN MAKE IT AN OFFICIAL MOVEMENT TOWARDS BROADENING THAT SCOPE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND INCLUDING EMPLOYER HOUSING EMPLOYEE HOUSING.

MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

WE MAY ALSO HAVE A LINE ON A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE THAT WOULD HAVE GREATER RESOURCES IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AS WELL.

SO MIGHT I SUGGEST THAT RATHER THAN BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL TO DISCUSS IN THIS MANNER THAT THAT YOU DO, INCLUDE IT IN WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT WILL GO TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION SO THOSE DISCUSSIONS CAN HAPPEN BEFORE THEY COME TO THE COUNCIL.

AND WOULD THAT BE WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE, ACCEPTABLE TO YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO NOTED. THANK YOU.

SO, MAYOR, THROUGH THE STREAMLINING OF FARE PROCESSES, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN.

I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND AS CITY MANAGER, AS MENTIONED IN THE THE CHAT, THE THE CORRECT TITLE OF IT WOULD BE INCENTIVE POLICY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, WITH INCLUSIONARY ZONING BEING PRECLUDED HERE IN ARIZONA.

THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I APPRECIATE GREG PUTTING IN THERE.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

LEGAL MAN. WELCOME, MAYOR.

WOMAN. VICE MAYOR.

YOU DO YOU. STERLING.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS FOR BRINGING THIS UP.

OKAY, SO WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON THAT.

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ALL RIGHT. MOVING DOWN TO OPEN CALL TO THE PUBLIC.

I DO NOT SEE ANY COMMENT CARDS, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE DOWN TO INFORMATIONAL ITEMS. TWO FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS.

[14. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS TO/FROM MAYOR, COUNCIL, AND STAFF, AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M GLAD TO BE BACK.

I JUST HAD TO KEEP THIS UNDER WRAPS FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT I'M EXCITED TO SHARE THAT.

I WAS ONE OF 27 SELECTED THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF ARIZONA TO BE THIS YEAR'S 2024 FLINN BROWN FELLOW, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

HARRIS. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE I'M THE VOICE OF DOOM.

BUT BUT I HAD I'VE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, PROBABLY THE LAST MONTH, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND SOME TIME OVER IN BRENNAN HOMES, SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.

AND SO I HAVE PAID ATTENTION TO THE BRENNAN HOMES DIVISION, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT.

AND IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE I MEAN, WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT BUILDINGS, PAINT JUST A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF THAT I THINK NEEDS SOME ATTENTION.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO TO GET PEOPLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

AND I DID TAKE SOME PICTURES, AND I WAS GOING TO SEND THEM TO OUR CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL.

BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AREA AND I DON'T KNOW WHO WHAT DEPARTMENT, I WOULD IMAGINE HOUSING AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF SOMEONE WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE LIVE IN CONDITIONS THAT ARE THAT ARE LIKE THAT.

IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IF THAT'S BECAUSE BRENNAN HOMES IS A LOT OLDER THAN THE REST OF OUR HOUSING LIKE SAYLOR HOMES AND SOME OF THE OTHER ONES. IT COULD BE THAT AND THEY JUST LOOK WHATEVER.

BUT ANYWAY, I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD MENTION THAT AND HAVE US TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER.

VICE MAYOR. JUST ONE QUICK ITEM.

IN INVESTIGATING HOW BEST TO APPROACH THIS, I WAS I WAS ADVISED TO BRING YOU UP DURING TWO FROM.

I ALREADY HAVE TRAVEL PLANS DURING THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING.

I'M GOING TO BE OFF.

OFF AND AWAY.

UP AND AWAY. WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE RECESSING THAT TUESDAY OF THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING.

BUT THAT'S CONVERSATION FOR ALL SEVEN OF US.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

WELL. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. WOMAN. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT.

I'D BE OPEN MINDED TO AT LEAST A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT THANKSGIVING WEEK THING.

COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET. NOTHING TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HOUSE.

NOTHING FOR ME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS AND TO VICE MAYOR FOR BEING IN THIS NEXT CLASS OF FLYNN BROWN FELLOWS.

IT IS AN OUTSTANDING PROGRAM, AND YOU'RE GOING TO REALLY, REALLY ENJOY IT.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO ENJOY YOU.

I HAVE ASKED ONE OF OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS TO SEND ME WEEKLY INFORMATION ABOUT HOMELESS COUNTS AND AND I HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT I WON'T GO INTO, BUT I, I WANTED TO SHARE THIS JUST IN SO THAT THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO MIGHT NOT ALREADY KNOW, KNOW HOW CLOSELY THESE HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ARE COMMUNICATED WITH BY THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

AND THESE AGENCIES ALL USE THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM.

HMMIS. THEY ALSO HAVE.

THEY HAVE WEEKLY CONFERENCE CALLS TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC PEOPLE AND RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE HOUSED. WE HAVE A FRONT DOOR PROGRAM, AND ANYONE WHO IS FEARING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE THEIR HOUSING, OR ANYONE WHO IS LOOKING FOR SOME ASSISTANCE GETTING INTO HOUSING, CAN GO TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES OR FLAGSTAFF SHELTER SERVICES, AND THERE WILL BE AN

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BUT THE NUMBERS THIS YEAR, I MEAN, THIS WEEK ARE 705 ADULTS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, AND THAT INCLUDES 25 FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN.

AND THIS IS DOWN FROM 772 LAST WEEK AND ALSO SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE AVERAGE TREND.

ACCORDING TO ACCORDING TO THE RESOURCES THAT SHE SHOWED ME.

SO IT'S NOT A NUMBER THAT I'M HAPPY ABOUT BECAUSE ONE PERSON NOT HAVING ADEQUATE HOUSING IS FAR TOO MANY.

BUT I HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN OUR IN OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS IN FLAGSTAFF.

AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER REALLY CLOSELY TO GET INDIVIDUALS, THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED, GET THEM INTO HOUSING WHEN THEY CAN.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SHOWING TO SHARING THIS INFORMATION WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.

SO. CITY MANAGER.

NOTHING FOR ME, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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