[1. Call to Order NOTICE OF OPTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council and to the general public that, at this work session, the City Council may vote to go into executive session, which will not be open to the public, for discussion and consultation with the City’s attorneys for legal advice on any item listed on the following agenda, pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3).]

ECHO. TODAY IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2023 AND IT IS A WORK SESSION.

I AM CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT AT THIS WORK SESSION, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY'S ATTORNEYS FOR LEGAL ADVICE ON ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA. CAN I HAVE ROLL CALL?

>> MARY DAGGETT.

>> HERE.

>> VICE MAYOR ASHLYNN.

>> AT HOME WITH THE COLD BUT PRESENT.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

>> I'M HERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEWS.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET.

>> HERE.

>> THANK YOU. WHO DID I ASK TO DO THE PLEDGE? COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE?

>> WOULD BE MY HONOR. PLEASE STAND IF YOU'RE ABLE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, OUR MISSION STATEMENT.

>> MY PLEASURE. THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF IS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY OR LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE FLAGSTAFF CITY COUNCIL HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF THIS AREA'S INDIGENOUS NATIONS AND THE ORIGINAL STEWARDS.

THESE LANDS STILL INHABITED BY NATIVE DESCENDANTS, BORDER MOUNTAIN SACRED TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.

WE HONOR THEM, THEIR LEGACIES, THEIR TRADITIONS, AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS.

WE CELEBRATE THEIR PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL FOREVER KNOW THIS PLACE AS HOME.

>> ALL RIGHT, WE'RE MOVING DOWN TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

[4. Public Participation Public Participation enables the public to address the council about items that are not on the prepared agenda. Public Participation appears on the agenda twice, at the beginning and at the end of the work session. You may speak at one or the other, but not both. Anyone wishing to comment at the meeting is asked to fill out a speaker card and submit it to the recording clerk. When the item comes up on the agenda, your name will be called. You may address the Council up to three times throughout the meeting, including comments made during Public Participation. Please limit your remarks to three minutes per item to allow everyone to have an opportunity to speak. At the discretion of the Chair, ten or more persons present at the meeting and wishing to speak may appoint a representative who may have no more than fifteen minutes to speak.]

THIS ENABLES THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ABOUT ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE PREPARED AGENDA.

IT APPEARS ON THE AGENDA TWICE, AT THE BEGINNING AND AT THE END OF THIS WORK SESSION.

YOU MAY SPEAK AT ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT NOT BOTH.

ANYONE WISHING TO COMMENT AT THE MEETING IS ASKED TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD, WHICH ARE LOCATED ON THE TABLE BACK THERE, AND SUBMIT IT TO THE RECORDING CLERK.

WHEN YOUR ITEM COMES UP ON THE AGENDA, YOUR NAME WILL BE CALLED.

YOU MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL UP TO THREE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE MEETING, INCLUDING COMMENTS MADE DURING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

PLEASE LIMIT YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES.

THERE IS A CLOCK UP HERE THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING.

I'M GOING TO CALL THE FIRST PARTICIPANT, CHUCK CRANDELL.

>> THANK YOU. MARY DAGGETT.

I'M HERE TO TALK TODAY ABOUT DOG BARKING, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD [NOISE].

I THINK YOU GET THE IDEA.

THE TIMER IS NOT WORKING.

[BACKGROUND] WONDERFUL. THANK YOU.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF BARKING THAT I JUST PLAYED A SHORT VIDEO ON HAS BEEN GOING ON IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR YEARS.

I CALL IT INCIDENT BARKING, WHERE THE DOG WILL BARK AT DEER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE POST OFFICE, THE MAIL DELIVERY PACKAGE DELIVERY, CITY CODE 6-02-003.

I WILL READ IT. "PROHIBITED ACTS BARKING AND HANDLING DOGS IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON OWNING OR HAVING THE CARE, CUSTODY, AND CONTROL OF ANY DOG TO PERMIT SAID DOG TO BARK AT BAY, HOW OR MAKE ANY OTHER NOISE DAY OR NIGHT, IN SUCH AN UNREASONABLE MANNER AS TO DISTURB THE PEACE AND QUIET OF ANY PERSON OR PERSONS." I WAS TOLD ON 10TH SEPTEMBER 2023,

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IT'S A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, BY CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, POLICE STAFFER, THAT CLF, CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, WILL NOT OR DOES NOT ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE ABOVE, UNLESS THE DOG IS BARKING CONTINUOUSLY.

THE DOGS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD DO NOT BARK CONTINUOUSLY.

THEY INCIDENT BARK AT THINGS THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

LACK OF ENFORCEMENT HAS ALSO BEEN MY OBSERVATION OVER THE YEARS, ENFORCEMENT BEING THEY COME, THEY DON'T HEAR THE DOG, AND THEN THEY LEAVE.

THEN THEY MAKE A STATEMENT OR A REPORT THAT THE DOG WAS NOT BARKING. GOT TO GET GOING.

MY QUESTION IS, HOW DOES THE US POLICE GET FROM 6-02-003 TO CONTINUOUS BARKING ONLY? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

SOON, I'M GOING TO BE ASKING, IN WRITING, ON HOW CLF POLICE EMPIRICALLY GETS FROM THAT ORDINANCE TO CONTINUOUS BARKING AND EXCLUDES INCIDENT BARKING.

I WAS TOLD ON 10TH SEPTEMBER 2023 BY POLICE THAT BARKING, OR WHAT I CALL INCIDENT BARKING TO BE PROVOKED BARKING.

IF A DOG SEES A DEER IN THE FOREST, THAT'S CALLED PROVOKE BARKING.

WELL, I ONLY GOT THROUGH HALFWAY.

>> EXCUSE ME JUST A MINUTE. COULD YOU PUT 20 SECONDS ON THE CLOCK? IS THAT POSSIBLE? FOR THE TIME THAT.

>> I CAN PUT A MINUTE. I CANNOT DO SECONDS.

I'M SORRY, MAYOR.

>> OKAY. WOULD YOU DO THAT?

>> YOU BET.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'M ALMOST THROUGH.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE ORDINANCE ABOVE THAT I READ TO YOU IS FOR CONTINUOUS BARKING ONLY.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS.

A CLF POLICE PERSON TOLD ME THAT IF IT'S PROVOKED BARKING, THAT BASICALLY THEY WILL NOT ENFORCE THAT.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IN CLOSING.

I'VE HAD CLF STAFFERS EXHIBIT ANGER AND CONTEMPT TOWARD ME FOR EXPRESSING MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS MATTER. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. DEBORAH DRE.

>> MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU.

CITY STAFF, I GUESS TODAY I'M JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT BEHAVIOR AND DESIGN.

I THINK FOLKS SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH TRAFFIC.

IT COMES UP A LOT. I KNOW I SPEAK TO IT A LOT.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE COMMENTED ON IT.

IT'S A BIG FRUSTRATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO MAYBE DO A TRAFFIC SPECIFIC TOWN HALL THAT WE CAN GET SOME OF THE REPRESENTATIVES OF STREETS AND MAYBE AIDAN, I THINK AIDAN IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE A LOT OF WALLS THAT WE COME UP AGAINST WITH THEM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONSIDERATIONS OF SPEED LIMITS, TRAFFIC SIGNALING, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ANY INDICATION AND INFORMATION SESSION WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE HEAR FROM ONE ANOTHER AS FAR AS MYSELF BEING, I GUESS, IDENTIFIABLE AS A PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLIST AND THEN WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER MOST PEOPLE BEING MOTOR VEHICLES OR PEOPLE IN VEHICLES.

I THINK BEHAVIOR AND DESIGN IS TOUGH BECAUSE WHEN WE COME AND WE ASK FOR DESIGN HELP, IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE A VULNERABLE POPULATION AND WE TALK A LOT ABOUT, AND I'VE HEARD IT FROM FIRST RESPONDERS TALKING ABOUT ALL ROAD USERS.

ALL ROAD USERS NEED TO BE SAFE, ALL ROAD USERS NEED TO HAVE ACCESSIBILITY.

I'M TALKING ABOUT VULNERABLE ROAD USERS BECAUSE PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS ARE MORE VULNERABLE THAN ANYBODY IN A MOTOR VEHICLE WHO'S ESSENTIALLY IN A CLIMATE CONTROLLED METAL BOX THAT CAN REACH VERY HIGH RATES OF SPEED AND CAN COMFORTABLY SIT IN TRAFFIC FOR AWHILE WITHOUT HAVING TOO MUCH A DETRIMENT TO THE PERSON AND YET WE ALWAYS PUT DETRIMENT ON THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PEDESTRIANS, WHO ARE CYCLISTS.

THEY HAVE TO DIVERT, THEY DON'T GET TO TAKE STRAIGHT ROUTES TO THE PLACES THEY NEED TO GET TO.

IT'S OFTENTIMES ONLY CARS GET TO GO PLACES FAST, ONLY CARS GET ROUNDABOUTS, ONLY CARS GET PARKING LOTS, ONLY CARS GET INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS NEED IT SO MUCH MORE JUST TO EVEN GET TO A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD WITH A LOT OF VEHICLES AND YET WE CONTINUE TO

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JUST HEAR LOUD ENGINES AND SEE BIGGER TRUCKS AND SEE MORE PARKING LOTS.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE MORE CONSIDERATION FROM NOT ONLY THE COUNCIL BUT STAFF TO SAY THAT PROVIDING FOR PEDESTRIANS, PROVIDING FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST VEHICLES IS NOT A FAILURE.

WE SEE IT AS THIS FAILURE.

WE'RE LIKE, HOW DO WE NOT GET AS MANY PARKING SPACES AS WE POSSIBLY COULD OUT OF THAT REAL ESTATE.

THAT'S OKAY SOMETIMES, ESPECIALLY IN PLACES WHERE PEDESTRIANS ARE THE HEAVIEST AND PEDESTRIANS NEED THAT MUCH MORE PROTECTION AND THAT MUCH MORE ENCOURAGEMENT TO STAY DOWNTOWN, TO STAY IN PLACES NEAR PARKS, TO STAY IN PLACES WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE GATHER, THAT'S JUST BETTER FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST PEOPLE IN CARS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 5,

[5. Review of Draft Agenda for the September 19, 2023 City Council Meeting Citizens wishing to speak on agenda items not specifically called out by the City Council may submit a speaker card for their items of interest to the recording clerk.]

REVIEW OF THE DRAFT AGENDA FOR SEPTEMBER 19TH.

HOPEFULLY COUNCIL HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THAT AGENDA.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 6, CITY MANAGER REPORT.

[6. City Manager Report Information Only]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL.

YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ONE OF THESE REPORTS SINCE THE END OF JUNE.

OVER THE SUMMER, I THINK COUNCIL DID RECEIVE SOME UPDATES FROM OUR VARIOUS DIVISIONS AND HOPEFULLY THOSE WERE INFORMATIVE.

SO WE'LL GET BACK INTO THE ROUTINE HERE.

AS WE TYPICALLY DO, WE GIVE YOU SOME UPDATES OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES AND WE INVITE A COUPLE OF OUR DIVISIONS TO GIVE THEIR UPDATES AS WELL.

TODAY, WE WILL BE HEARING FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, ALSO A SUMMER UPDATE FROM INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND THE AUGUST UPDATE FROM PROSE.

JUST TOUCHING RANDOMLY ON SOME ITEMS IN MY REPORT AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF THOSE WHO HELPED ASSEMBLE THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU, WITH WATER SERVICES, WE HAVE SOME INTERESTING TIDBITS.

WE USUALLY GET UPDATES FROM WATER SERVICES, SO THIS IS STUFF HAPPENING BETWEEN THOSE UPDATES.

BUT THE 2024 WATER RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT ACT, OUR CITY HAS RECEIVED AN INVITATION FROM SENATORS KELLY AND SINEMA TO SUBMIT PROJECT REQUESTS.

WE ARE DOING SO IN THE INTEREST OF PURSUING ADVANCED WASTEWATER TREATMENT AND THAT IS INFRASTRUCTURE IN WATER RESOURCE RESILIENCY FOR ABOUT $4.8 MILLION.

STAY TUNED ON THAT.

THIS, LIKE MANY OF THESE REQUESTS, IS SUBJECT TO A TIGHT TIMELINE, SO WE DO WHAT WE CAN TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

BUT THIS WILL BE A VERY EXCITING PURSUIT BY THE CITY AND ONE THAT YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT.

STAY TUNED ON THAT.

ADVANCED WATER PURIFICATION TECHNICAL ADVISORY GROUP, THAT'S A MOUTHFUL.

COUNCIL'S AWARE NOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON A DRAFT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY OF PHOENIX AND THE CITY OF SCOTTSDALE TOWARD A LETTER TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH RESPECT TO ADVANCED WATER PURIFICATION AND THE ADVISORY GROUP, SO STAY TUNED ON THAT.

YOU WILL BE SEEING A COPY OF THIS.

IT'S CURRENTLY IN THE WORKS.

I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT ED SHANK WITH STORMWATER AND I MET WITH OUR WATERSHED ALLIANCE FOR THE RIO DE FLAG.

THAT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL GROUP YET.

THEY ARE WANTING TO BECOME AN OFFICIAL GROUP RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

THIS MATTER WILL GO BEFORE THE WATER COMMISSION AND THEN FIND ITS WAY TO THE DAIS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WE'RE WORKING OUT SOME LANGUAGE WITHIN THE FORMATIVE DOCUMENTS FOR THIS GROUP.

THEY WILL BE UNDER THE ACRONYM OF WARF, THAT'S WATER ALLIANCE FOR RIO DE FLAG, WARF, COMING YOUR WAY.

IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING AND THE WHEELS ARE IN MOTION ON THAT.

I WANT TO RECOGNIZE A FEW WITHIN OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, SOME PERSONNEL CHANGES OVER THE SUMMER.

I THINK COUNCIL MAY BE AWARE OF THIS ALREADY, BUT I'LL RESTATE IT.

CAPTAIN SETH GREGOR, I HOPE I'M GETTING THAT CORRECT, GREGOR, HAS BEEN NEWLY ASSIGNED TO THE CARE UNIT, THE CAPTAIN POSITION.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

MARK ADAMS WHO YOU MET RECENTLY, I THINK HE PRESENTED TO YOU JUST RECENTLY, JOINED THE TEAM AS OUR NEW WILDLAND COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION SPECIALIST AND CASEY GONZALEZ WAS PROMOTED TO FIRE CAPTAIN.

MOVING ON WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT,

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MANY OF US, MAYOR, YOU WERE THERE, THANK YOU, WE ATTENDED THE HIGH COUNTRY TRAINING ACADEMY GRADUATION FOR CLASS 2.

THIS IS THE SECOND GRADUATING CLASS FROM OUR HIGH COUNTRY TRAINING ACADEMY.

IT WAS WONDERFUL.

IT WAS WELL ATTENDED, OF COURSE, AT THE HOST VENUE OF, ALMOST SLIPPED, DIDN'T QUITE, COCONINO COMMUNITY COLLEGE, AND IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE SAID COLORADO.

THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN TOO OFTEN.

IT WAS WELL ATTENDED AND WE HAD A HUGE GRADUATING CLASS, MANY OF WHOM WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN RPD, AS WELL AS THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE NAUPD, AND THE WHITE MOUNTAIN APACHE TRIBAL POLICE, AS WELL AS YAVAPAI COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

THIS IS JUST PROVING TO BE A TREMENDOUS SUCCESS AND WE ARE ALREADY GETTING READY FOR THE NEXT CLASS, SO STAY TUNED ON THAT.

SOLID WASTE. JUST A LITTLE PLUG ON SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GIVE A LOT OF ATTENTION TO, WE CONTINUE TO SEE SOME BAGGED RECYCLABLES INCLUDING PLASTIC BAGS AND STYROFOAM CONTAMINANTS AND SO FORTH IN OUR RECYCLING STREAM.

WE REALLY NEED TO UP OUR GAME AS A COMMUNITY ON THAT.

WE HAVE A VIDEO ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND WE WILL CONTINUE SOME VERY AGGRESSIVE OUTREACH AS WE TRY TO IMPROVE OUR SOLID WASTE DIVERSION AND REDUCE OUR CONTAMINANTS WITHIN THE RECYCLABLE STREAM.

RANDOMLY HERE, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL CREW INSTALLED THE SPEED SIGN ON LINDA VISTA, ELECTRONIC SPEED SIGN.

JUST CHECKING WITH OUR CITY CLERK ON THAT, SHE'S AWARE OF IT.

RURAL TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COUNCIL, OUR STAFF ARE WORKING WITH METRO PLAN TO SUBMIT A FUNDING REQUEST AS PART OF THE BILL THAT WILL BE PUT FORWARD BY THE RURAL TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COUNCIL, RTAC.

THIS GOES TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND IT WILL BE IN FRONT OF THEM IN THE UPCOMING SESSION.

WE'RE LOOKING TO JOINTLY PURSUE A SIGNIFICANT ALLOCATION, $15 MILLION I BELIEVE, FOR THE LONE TREE CORRIDOR AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.

STAY TUNED ON THAT VERY IMPORTANT PURSUIT.

I THINK I'LL END IT WITH THAT, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME ON THIS REPORT AND WE'LL LET OUR DIVISION HEADS, I THINK WE'LL START WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, GIVE YOU THEIR QUICK UPDATES. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? NO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY QUEUED UP TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M MICHELLE MCNULTY, PLANNING DIRECTOR.

I'M FILLING IN FOR DAN FOLKE, WHO'S UNFORTUNATELY UNDER THE WEATHER.

FIRST, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A BIG WELCOME TO ALL OF OUR NEW STAFF IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S A LONG LIST IN OUR MORE DETAILED REPORT.

WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THEM ONBOARD.

IT WAS A VERY BUSY CONSTRUCTION SEASON, AND WE MANAGED THROUGH A NUMBER OF KEY VACANCIES IN BOTH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND BUILDING SAFETY.

A SPECIAL BIG THANK YOU TO ALAXANDRA PUCCIARELLI, TORI MARTIN, DEE WILLIAMS, JOHN CROCKETT, RICK STANIONIS, AND AMY HAGEN FOR ALL THEIR EXTRA TIME THAT THEY WORKED TO GET US THROUGH THAT TIME.

I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT TORI MARTIN WAS RECENTLY PROMOTED FROM OUR CD ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER.

JUST TO UNDERSCORE HOW BUSY OF A SEASON IT HAS BEEN, THE PERMIT AND INSPECTION ACTIVITY REMAINS REALLY HIGH.

WE HAD 1,386 PERMITS ISSUED THROUGH JULY.

THAT'S COMPARED TO 1,303 PERMITS IN ALL OF 2022.

FROM A VALUATION STANDPOINT, AGAIN THROUGH JULY, WE ARE UP 31 MILLION FROM 2022 TOTAL.

THE REGIONAL PLAN WORK CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD.

THIS SPRING, COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING COMPLETED 13 SCENARIO PLANNING WORKSHOPS.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM VARIOUS GROUPS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

THE TEAM IS WORKING ON ALTERNATIVE SCENARIOS FOR GROWTH THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED WITH THE PUBLIC THIS FALL.

PLANNING, HOUSING, AND SUSTAINABILITY WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS AND THE CONSULTANT TEAM ARE GETTING A GREAT START TO THE LAND AVAILABILITY, SUITABILITY, AND CODE ANALYSIS PROJECT.

WE ARE ON THE SCHEDULE TO GIVE YOU A MORE DETAILED UPDATE OCTOBER 31ST.

IN THE MEANTIME, OUR ZONING CODE MANAGER IS WORKING ON SEVERAL SMALL ZONING CODE CHANGES.

THEY'RE SMALL, BUT THEY HAVE BIG IMPACTS, NOTABLY TO OUR PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT

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AND MANUFACTURED HOUSING LOT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

THERE'S A LONGER LIST IN YOUR PACKET.

HOUSING GAVE A PRESENTATION LAST WEEK ON A LOT OF THE HARD WORK THEY CONTINUE TO DO.

BUT IN ADDITION TO THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS AND HOUSING PLAN IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, THEY DID TAKE THE TIME TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ARIZONA HOUSING FORUM IN AUGUST DOWN IN TUCSON.

SARAH DARR, OUR HOUSING DIRECTOR, PRESENTED ON A PANEL WITH HOUSING DIRECTORS FROM PHOENIX, TUCSON, AND GLENDALE TO SHARE THE SUCCESSES AND ADVICE IN CREATING AND SUSTAINING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I HAVE TO NOTE THAT MAYOR DAGGETT RECEIVED THE HOUSING HERO AWARD AT THAT EVENT FOR HER DEDICATION TO HOUSING IN FLAGSTAFF.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THERE WAS ALSO GREAT PARTICIPATION BY CITY STAFF AT THE ARIZONA AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION STATE PLANNING CONFERENCE LAST WEEK.

NICOLE ANTONOPOULOS, CHRISTINA RUBALCAVA, TIFFANY ANTOL, JORDAN HOLLINGER, DAN FOLKE, AND MYSELF ALL PARTICIPATED IN VARIOUS PANEL DISCUSSIONS ON A WIDE RANGE OF TOPICS.

IT'S REALLY CLEAR THAT OUR PEERS AROUND THE STATE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT WE'RE DOING UP HERE.

ALSO, AT THE CONFERENCE, FLAGSTAFF HAD SOME BIG WINS.

HOUSING RECEIVED THE BEST MASTER-SPECIFIC PLAN HONORABLE MENTION FOR THEIR TENURE HOUSING PLAN, AND THE CITIZEN PLANNER AWARD WENT TO DEVONNA MCLAUGHLIN FOR HER SERVICE ON THE HOUSING COMMISSION AND HER WORK ON HOUSING SOLUTIONS OF THE NORTH.

CONGRATULATIONS TO HOUSING AND DEVONNA FOR THOSE GREAT ACHIEVEMENTS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MICHELLE. THEN I THINK WE HAVE CJ ONLINE WHO'S GOING TO GIVE US SOME QUICK UPDATES ON INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY HOPEFULLY. THANK YOU, CJ.

>> YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

CJ PERRY, I'M YOUR DIVISION DIRECTOR FOR THE BEST DIVISION IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF; THAT IS THE IT DEPARTMENT.

JUST WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR UPDATES.

LET ME PULL THAT UP ON THE SCREEN REAL QUICK.

WE DO AN UPDATE FOR THE ENTIRE QUARTER.

FOR THE SUMMER, WE FIRST START OFF WITH SOME TIPS AND TRICKS.

SOMETHING THAT WE LIKE TO DO AS PART OF OUR MISSION IS OUR PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE THE SECURITY TOOLS TO MAKE YOUR JOB EASIER TOMORROW THAN IT WAS TODAY, AND SOME OF THAT IS TRAINING STAFF ON NEW AND UPCOMING TECHNOLOGIES.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S NEW AND UPCOMING IS A LOT OF THIS AI STUFF THAT PEOPLE KEEP HEARING ABOUT; CHATGPT AND OTHER SIMILAR TECHNOLOGIES.

THIS IS JUST SOME LITTLE TIPS ON HOW TO UTILIZE AI AS PART OF DAY-TO-DAY WORK.

I WANTED TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT-OUT TO TRACE WARD AND HIS TEAM, WHO ARE REALLY PLOWING THE WAY AS FAR AS AI AND UTILIZING SOME OF THESE TOOLS.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM ON HOW CAN WE INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE NEW TECHNOLOGIES INTO OUR ORGANIZATION.

SOME GREAT INFORMATION THERE.

WE ALSO LIKE TO SPOTLIGHT SOME OF OUR DIFFERENT TEAMS. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT'S OUR HELP DESK PROGRAM.

MANY OF YOU HAVE WORKED WITH MANY OF THESE STAFF AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR THEM.

THEY'RE OUR FRONT LINE, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE HELPING ALL OF OUR STAFF AND EVERYONE WITHIN TEAM FLAGSTAFF WHEN THEY'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THEIR COMPUTERS.

YOU CAN GET TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM AS WELL.

AS FAR AS SOME MAJOR PROJECT UPDATES, REALLY EXCITED, WE JUST COMPLETED AN RFI FOR INFORMATION TO BRING FIBER TO FLAGSTAFF.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF RESPONDENTS, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION.

THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPANIES THAT ARE EXTREMELY INTERESTED IN COMING TO FLAGSTAFF AND BRINGING FASTER BROADBAND, BRINGING FIBER, AND NEW TECHNOLOGY TO OUR COMMUNITY.

OUR NEXT STEP IS, WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM ON PROBABLY AN RFP IN ORDER TO REALLY GIVE A CONTRACT AND GET ONE OF THESE COMPANIES TO START BUILDING OR MAYBE MULTIPLE COMPANIES.

BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

STAY TUNED FOR THAT.

WE DO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH AS WELL BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE GET BETTER IS BY CALLING THEM OUT.

THIS PARTICULAR QUARTER, WE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH OUR DISPATCH SYSTEM.

IT'S A 30-YEAR-OLD SYSTEM.

IT WAS DEVELOPED ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO, AND IT'S DEFINITELY STARTING TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF ITS AGE.

WE ARE WORKING ON SOME LONG-TERM PLANNING ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO MITIGATE THESE ISSUES AND COME UP WITH BETTER SYSTEMS GOING FORWARD. STAY TUNED FOR THAT.

I WILL LET YOU ALL READ AS WE GO BEYOND THAT, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, PARTICULARLY I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT OUR NEW STAFF MEMBER, ALEX STEVENSON.

HE'S HELPING OUT WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL.

I REALLY WANTED TO WELCOME HIM ON BOARD, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING

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ON THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS. THAT'S ALL I HAD.

>> THANK YOU, CJ. I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING OUT THE PROBLEMS THAT IT FACED IN THIS QUARTER.

I'M SURE OTHERS ARE AS WELL VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT DISPATCH HAS ENCOUNTERED AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING UPDATES ON HOW WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT PROBLEM.

>> ABSOLUTELY. WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF THEM.

OUR TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO SOLVE A LOT OF THE ISSUES WE'VE HAVE.

WE'VE ACTUALLY MADE SOME PROGRESS JUST IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT THOSE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS LOOK LIKE AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO BRING UPDATES TO COUNSEL AS WE TALK ABOUT THAT STRATEGY, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH A STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP NEXT MONTH AS WELL AND THIS WILL BE A BIG TOPIC AS PART OF THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP.

>> THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? THANK YOU, CJ.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, CJ. FOR THE RECORD, I DO NOT USE AI WHEN I'M PUTTING TOGETHER MY MANAGER'S REPORTS, BUT I THINK OUR CITY CLERK LOOKS FORWARD TO THE DAY WHEN THAT IS THE CASE.

WE HAVE ONE MORE REPORT FOR YOU AND THAT'S THE PROS UPDATE, AND I BELIEVE REBECCA IS WITH US.

>> I AM. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

REBECCA SAYERS, PROSE DIRECTOR.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, PROSE STANDS FOR PARKS, RECREATION, OPEN SPACE, AND EVENTS.

CJ, I WILL ARM WRESTLE YOU ARE RACE YOU AROUND BUFFALO PARK TOMORROW ABOUT BEST DIVISION.

WE TOO HAVE SOME NEW STUFF THAT WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.

HERE IS ANDREW, HE'S OUR NEW COORDINATOR OVER AT THE HALOGENS AND RECREATION CENTER.

THIS IS A GREAT STORY BECAUSE ANDREW HAS WORKED WITH US AS A TEMPORARY EMPLOYEE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND IS NOW THE FULL-TIME BENEFITED PERMANENT COORDINATOR, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD IN THAT CAPACITY.

WE ARE ALSO GETTING READY TO INTERVIEW FOR FLAGSTAFF VERY FIRST, AS FAR AS WE KNOW.

PARK RANGER POSITION, WE HAD A HUGE INTEREST FROM ACROSS THE STATE, ESPECIALLY, WE HAD OVER 30 APPLICANTS AND I BELIEVE WE'RE DOING SIX OR SEVEN INTERVIEWS ON FRIDAY.

THIS IS EXCITING FOR US.

IT'S A SHIFT IN SOME OPERATIONS AND WE WILL BE SURE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT PROGRAM WHEN WE HAVE THAT NEW INDIVIDUAL ONBOARD.

TRAIL COUNTS ARE ALWAYS POPULAR.

I WON'T GO INTO THEM.

THERE'S NOTHING HUGELY DIFFERENT HERE FROM WHAT YOU'VE SEEN.

MARS HILL AND ROUTE 66 TRIALS CONTINUE TO BE VERY POPULAR.

THE ONE PROJECT I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, AND YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THIS A LOT, [LAUGHTER] BUT THE BUFFALO PARK ACCESSIBILITY PROJECT IS FINALLY COMPLETE.

RIGHT NOW, OUR AMY HAGEN WITH AN I AND OUR ASSISTANT PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW TOURING WITH OUR STATE PARK PARTNERS WHO HELPED FUND THIS PROJECT.

WE ARE HAVING A BROWN BAG, COME OUT AND CHECK IT OUT LUNCH TOMORROW.

YOU NEED TO BRING YOUR OWN FOOD.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY, BUT WE DO INVITE EVERYONE OUT BETWEEN 11:00 AND 1:00 TO WALK AROUND WITH US.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE ARE NEW, FULLY ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACES.

THE REST OF THE PARKING LOT IS STILL THIS COMPACTED AGGREGATE, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO INSTALL THESE CONCRETE, ACCESSIBLE SPACES AND NEW WALKWAYS LEADING INTO THE PARK.

THEN WE HAVE A NEW TRIAL SERVICE THAT IS MORE ACCESSIBLE, AS WELL AS IMPROVED SIGNAGE THAT NOTES THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE TWO-MILE LOOP.

PRETTY EXCITING PROJECT FOR US.

THE FIRST GRANT PROJECT THAT PARKS HAS HAD IN MANY YEARS AND WE'RE EXCITED TO FINALLY PUNCH THIS ONE OUT.

IN ADDITION, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN SOME NEW RESTROOMS SWINGING INTO PLACE OVER A THORPE PARK NEAR THE RAMADA.

WE'RE JUST WORKING ON A FEW FOLLOW-UP ITEMS WITH THAT AND HOPEFULLY, THEY'LL BE OPEN WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.

WE DO NEED TO POUR SOME NEW SIDEWALKS THAT ARE ADA ACCESSIBLE UP TO THOSE RESTROOMS AND THAT'S THE LAST PIECE THAT WE'RE WAITING ON,

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BUT THOSE SHOULD BE OPEN SOON.

TO THE EXCITEMENT OF MANY OF OUR USERS, WE'VE HEARD A LOT, ESPECIALLY THE TENNIS PLAYERS AND A LOT OF PARENTS USING THAT PLAYGROUND GOT A LOT OF EXCITEMENT THERE.

HOW JENSEN RECREATION CENTER, MOVING ONTO RECREATION HERE, ENJOYED ITS END-OF-SUMMER BASH, BACK-TO-SCHOOL BASH, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, AND ALSO THEY ARE CELEBRATING THE SUCCESS OF THEIR HOSTING OF THE COMMUNITY GARDEN.

THIS WAS A PILOT PROJECT AS THE ISABEL HOMES PROJECTS STARTED TAKING PLACE WHERE THE ISABEL COMMUNITY GARDEN IS.

I WOULD SAY IT WAS A SUCCESS.

WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES IN THE FUTURE.

OVER AT JAY LIVELY, FLAGSTAFF FIGURE SKATING CLUB HAD ITS BIG COMPETITION.

FYHA IS OUR FLAGSHIP YOUTH HOCKEY ASSOCIATION.

THEY'VE HAD A FEW TOURNAMENTS.

OUR COUNTY MEAL PROGRAM OVER AT JOSIE MONTOYA.

THEY HAD AN ANNUAL KICK-OUT.

THEY DO THIS AROUND THE 4TH OF JULY EVERY YEAR, SO THAT'S ALWAYS FUN.

THEY HANG OUT AT THE RAMADA AT THORPE PARK.

WE JUST COMPLETED OUR ANNUAL ANNIVERSARY MEMBERSHIP DRIVE AT THE AQUA PLEX AND WE'LL HAVE SOME OF THOSE RESULTS FOR YOU IN OUR NEXT NEWSLETTER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, FOR JOINING US ON TOURS OF ALL OF OUR FACILITIES AND OUR OPEN SPACES IN OUR PARKS.

WE HAD A GREAT TIME WITH YOU.

WE WELCOME EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU TO COME OUT AND SPEND THE DAY WITH US.

I THINK YOU'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS THAT IT'S A DAY, WELL-SPENT.

IT'S NOT JUST FUN BECAUSE YOU'RE OUTSIDE AND YOU'RE WITH US BECAUSE THAT'S A GIVEN, BUT WE'LL ALSO TEACH YOU A LOT TOO, AND YOU'LL GET THE INS AND OUTS OF OUR OPERATIONS AND OUR PLANS FOR THE FUTURE.

OF COURSE, YOU'LL BE HEARING MORE FROM US IN THE COMING MONTHS ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

OPEN SPACE ALSO HAS BEEN HOSTING WEDNESDAYS [INAUDIBLE].

THEY DO THIS AT A VARIETY OF LOCATIONS, BUT THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO TRY TO KEEP A HANDLE ON THE INVASIVE WEED PROBLEM HERE, IN OUR PROPERTIES, AND IN FLAGSTAFF.

FINALLY, WE ARE OPEN RIGHT NOW FOR ADULT VOLLEYBALL, TRIED TO SAY THAT FAST.

REGISTRATION IS OPEN.

IF YOU PULL UP THIS DOCUMENT WHICH I EMAILED, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE.

YOU CAN CLICK HERE TO REGISTER.

THESE ARE LIVE LINKS.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN OUR NEXT WEEK, AND, OF COURSE, WE HAVE LOTS OF EVENTS THAT ARE STILL GOING ON.

PROBABLY, THE BIGGEST HIGHLIGHT FOR THIS COMING MONTH IS THE ONE I JUST COVERED UP SOMEHOW.

THE STAR PARTY AT BUFFALO PARK AND FESTIVAL OF SCIENCE ARE BOTH HAPPENING IN SEPTEMBER.

THOSE ARE SOME OF OUR BIG EVENTS.

CORNUCOPIA IS ALSO COMING BACK THIS YEAR OVER THORPE PARK.

THOSE ARE ALL EXCITING.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCIL? I LIKE YOUR TIGHTS, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THANKS, REBECCA.

>> THANK YOU, REBECCA. MAYOR, COUNCIL, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU, GREG. I GOT TO GET BACK TO THE OTHER PAGE ON OUR AGENDA.

NEXT STEP ITEM NUMBER 7,

[7. Roundabout Workshop and Discussion Facilitate council discussion concerning modern roundabout design, operational considerations and public outreach. ]

ROUNDABOUT WORKSHOP AND DISCUSSION.

[NOISE]

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JEREMY TIGETA.

I'M A PROJECT MANAGER IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS SECTION HERE IN THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING'S ROUNDABOUT WORKSHOP AND DISCUSSION ON BEHALF OF CITY ENGINEERING DIVISION.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS, WE'VE BUILT A NUMBER OF ROUNDABOUTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF, BOTH WHETHER IT WAS A DOT OR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

WE'VE GOT A ROUNDABOUT PROJECT UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW WITH AS PART OF THE BEULAH UNIVERSITY REALIGNMENT PROJECT.

WE'VE GOT SEVERAL ROUNDABOUTS UPCOMING IN THE PIPELINE.

WE'VE GOT THE FOURTH LOCKET CEDAR ROUNDABOUT SLATED FOR CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR,

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AND WILL BE BEFORE YOU LATER IN OCTOBER TO PRESENT AN UPDATE ON THE BUTLER FOURTH IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES A STAFF-PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE AS A ROUNDABOUT.

WITH THAT, TONIGHT WE HAVE BEEN HOLDING A STAFF AND STAKEHOLDER TRAINING TWO-DAY WORKSHOP TO, I GUESS, GET STAFF UP TO SPEED.

WE'VE INVITED A NUMBER OF EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS TO WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS, ALL THE DESIGN INTRICACIES THAT GO INTO MAKING A GOOD ROUNDABOUT ENSURING THAT WE'VE GOT THE GOOD FACILITIES FOR ALL USERS, INCLUDING THE BEST FACILITIES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE FOR OUR MOST VULNERABLE USERS OF OUR TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.

WITH THAT, OUR INSTRUCTOR OR OUR PRESENTER TONIGHT IS MARK JOHNSON WITH EMPTY J AND ENGINEERING.

HE'S GOT OVER 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE BOTH ON THE PUBLIC SIDE AND ALSO WORKING AS A PRIVATE CONSULTANT, HAS DESIGNED OR PEER-REVIEWED ALMOST 1,000 ROUNDABOUTS, SERVES ON MULTIPLE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES WITH THE TRANSPORTATION RESEARCH BOARD OR THE INTERNATIONAL TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS GROUP ON THEIR COMMITTEES THAT FORM GUIDELINES FOR HOW ROUNDABOUTS SHOULD BE DESIGNED AND HAS PUBLISHED NUMEROUS PAPERS ON THIS.

AS HE DESCRIBED TO US THIS MORNING, HIS DEPTH OF KNOWLEDGE OR BREADTH OF KNOWLEDGE ACROSS ENGINEERING IS RELATIVELY NARROW.

IT'S EXTREMELY FOCUSED ON ROUNDABOUTS, BUT THE DEPTH OF THAT KNOWLEDGE ON ROUNDABOUTS IS VERY DEEP.

WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE HIM HERE TODAY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION.

WITH THAT, WELCOME MARK.

>> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO THAT DEPTH ANALYSIS.

I'M JUST HERE TO BORE YOU GUYS TO TEARS.

I LIKE TO JOKE, ANYWAY.

LET ME JUST RUN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

DO YOU THINK, JEREMY? I GUESS THIS IS YOUR MEETING, COUNCILS.

IF YOU WANT TO OPEN UP WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I HAVE SOME PREPARED MATERIALS THAT WALKS THROUGH, IT'S A ONE-ON-ONE.

I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF SLIDES HERE THAT SPEAK TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT CAN MAYBE CONTROVERSIAL WITH ROUNDABOUTS.

SUCH AS I LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT HOW OUR TALENT CAME TO BE.

THE FACT THAT WE CAN PUT THEM IN DIFFERENT PLACES AND HOW THAT MIGHT WORK AND THEN TALK A LITTLE ABOUT SAFETY AND PEDS AND BIKES, ABOUT EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND TRUCKS AND HOW WE DEAL WITH THOSE, AND THEN SOME TRAFFIC PLANNING OPPORTUNITY TO HOW ROUNDABOUTS CAN REALLY AFFECT HOW WE TRAFFIC PLAN OUR ROADWAYS AND WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT TODAY WITH THE STAFF.

THEN I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT CASE STUDIES AND SOME PROJECTS THAT WENT IN AND THE TYPICAL STRUGGLES WITH PUTTING NEW THINGS IN AND THEN HOW THOSE TURNED OUT.

THAT'S THE OVERVIEW OF THE TOPICS AND IT'S MEANT TO GO QUICK AND I DON'T GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO ISSUES THAT YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN.

BUT IF YOU HAVE NOTHING SPECIFIC, I MIGHT JUST GO THROUGH THIS AND YOU GUYS ARE WELCOME TO JUMP IN AS YOU MAY LIKE.

>> WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND WE MAY HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL?

>> SOUNDS GREAT. OVERVIEW OF ROUNDABOUTS, BENEFITS, OPPORTUNITIES, AND CHALLENGES.

I'M SURE I'M LOOKING AT THE RIGHT SCREEN HERE.

I JUST WENT THROUGH THE OUTLINE.

I DON'T THINK I REALLY NEED TO DO THAT AGAIN.

ROUNDABOUTS VERSUS SIGNALS.

THIS IS AN OLD CARTOON FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE THAT I GOT A LONG TIME AGO.

IT SPEAKS TO THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ROUNDABOUTS PROVIDE IN TERMS OF CHANGING HOW WE DESIGN ROADS AND HOW WE LOOK AT TRAFFIC PLANNING.

IN ESSENCE, WE CAN OFTEN DO MORE WITH LESS WITH ROUNDABOUTS.

WE CAN OFTEN, I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO WIDEN ROAD WHEN WE USE ROUNDABOUTS VERSUS SIGNALS TO ACHIEVE THE SAME PERFORMANCE.

THAT'S ONE SECTION OF THIS.

BUT HOW YOU DECIDE THOSE THINGS, IT IS NOW KNOWN AS AN ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS.

IT'S BENEFITS AND COSTS.

IT'S ACHIEVING COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES.

A LOT CAN GO INTO THAT.

JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF ROUNDABOUTS.

WHERE DID THEY COME FROM AND WHY ARE WE AS COMMUNITIES, AS ENGINEERING COMMUNITIES LOOKING AT THEM, SO A COUPLE OF BRIEF SLIDES.

THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT THERE, THE ARC DE TRIOMPHE IN PARIS, FRANCE.

IT'S AN OLD CIRCULAR LAND PLANNING CIRCLE

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THAT WORKED GREAT WITH HORSES AND CHARIOTS AND NOT-SO-GREAT WITH ROUNDABOUTS.

THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS, WE BUILT ROTARIES AS THEY'RE REFERRED TO ON THE EAST COAST UP THROUGH THE EARLY '50S.

THEN WE STOPPED BUILDING THEM.

THEY WERE THE PRECURSOR TO THE MODERN INTERCHANGE ON RAMPS AND OFF RAMPS.

BUT YOU SEE THE ROUNDABOUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT OLD LARGE CIRCLE THERE, THAT IS WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS A MODERN ROUNDABOUT.

WHY IS IT THAT THAT IS A DIFFERENT SHAPE THAN THE OLD ONE? HOW DID WE KNOW TO DESIGN THAT DIFFERENTLY? REALLY, IT WAS BORN OUT OF THE UK.

IN THE UK, THEY'D BEEN DOING ROUNDABOUTS REALLY FROM THE EARLY 1900S.

WE STOPPED DOING THEM IN THE LATE '40S OR '50S.

THEY KEPT RESEARCHING AND STUDYING THEM.

THROUGH THE '60S AND '70S POST-WORLD WAR II BOOM, MORE POPULATION, MORE TRAFFIC, MORE CARS THAN A NATIONAL IMPERATIVE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT SIZES AND CIRCLES AND THEY DID A LOT OF RESEARCH LOOKING AT LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE IN NORTH AMERICA AND THE US, WE BASICALLY BORROWED AND TRANSLATED THEIR RESEARCH, SCIENCE, AND ENGINEERING PRACTICE INTO US AND NORTH AMERICA PRACTICES.

THEY'RE RELATIVELY NEW AS A TRANSPORTATION FACILITY.

IN THE UK, IT WAS THE 1980S WHEN THEY PUBLISHED A LOT OF THEIR RESEARCH FROM OVER THE COUPLE OF DECADES THAT THEY WORKED ON IT.

OTHER COUNTRIES STARTED DOING THEM.

THEY FIRST WENT TO AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND OTHER ENGLISH AREAS AND THEN OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES STARTED DOING THEM.

REALLY THEY JUST STARTED POPPING UP IN THE US IN THE 1990S.

ALL THINGS CONSIDERED RELATIVELY NEW, THEY HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES YOU CAN PUT THEM, WIDE VARIETY OF APPLICATIONS.

WE CAN USE THEM WITH CULTURAL PUBLIC ART IN THE MIDDLE, YOU CAN PUT THEM IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

YOU CAN DO AN URBAN REVITALIZATION.

YOU CAN USE IT AS PART OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS A COLLEGE CAMPUS IN PORTLAND, MAINE THAT'S TAKING OUT SOME SIGNALS AND REARRANGING SOME THINGS THERE TO TRY TO IMPROVE PERFORMANCE AND SAFETY FOR EVERYBODY.

YOU CAN PUT THEM IN TRANSITIONAL SPEED APPLICATIONS.

IT'S THE CONTEXTS AND FORMS OF DESIGN AND WHAT'S APPROPRIATE.

THERE'S DIFFERENT DESIGN TECHNIQUES DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING THEM IN AND WHAT YOUR OBJECTIVES ARE AND INTERCHANGES AS WELL.

BASICALLY, ANYWHERE YOU CAN PUT AN INTERSECTION, YOU CAN EVALUATE IT TO PUT A ROUNDABOUT.

EVEN CORRIDORS. WE'RE STARTING TO PUT THEM IN CORRIDORS AND THE BENEFITS OF THAT CAN IMPROVE.

WE CAN DO MORE WITH LESS, WE CAN ACHIEVE SIMILAR VEHICLE PERFORMANCE WITH THE SAME OR LESS LINEAGE FOR CARS WITH ROUNDABOUTS BECAUSE THEY OPERATE DIFFERENTLY.

THAT CAN IMPROVE ACCESS AND SAFETY AS WELL.

ON THE SAFETY SIDE OF THINGS, YOU DON'T GET THESE NICE [BACKGROUND].

THE TEA BONES ARE PROBLEMATIC AS A SAFETY MEASURE.

THEY THEY CAN'T HAPPEN AT SIGNALS.

BASICALLY THEY DON'T HAPPEN AT ROUNDABOUTS.

THAT'S A BIG BENEFIT FOR SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES AND FATALITIES.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

YOU JUST HAVE LESS CONFLICT POINTS WITH ROUNDABOUTS WHEN YOU QUANTIFY THE CONFLICT POINTS.

WITH THE SPEED REDUCTION THAT WE STRIVE FOR AND DESIGN, YOU JUST HAVE NATURAL INHERENT SAFETY BUILT-IN.

IT'S LIKE A SAFETY BELT IN A WAY.

IT JUST IMPROVED SAFETY OVERALL.

THAT ACCIDENT SEVERITY GOES DOWN WITH THE SLOWER SPEEDS.

ONE THING TO LOOK AT IS IT ALWAYS STOP WHERE NOBODY REALLY KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE MANY MORE AND YOU GO UP.

YOU PULL UP AND EVERYONE TRIES TO FIGURE OUT WHO GOES FIRST AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR SOMEBODY AND THEY'RE NOT THAT EFFICIENT.

YOU COULD RUN INTO SOME OF THE ROUNDABOUTS.

IF A CIRCLE, YOU PUT A CENTRAL ISLAND, YOU GET FOUR SPLITTER ISLANDS, AND ACTUALLY, CARS CAN COME UP AND FOUR CARS CAN MOVE FORWARD SIMULTANEOUSLY.

THAT IMPROVES ITS OPERATION AND ILLUSTRATES HOW THEY PERFORM MUCH DIFFERENTLY.

PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS, ADA ISSUES, IT'S BEEN A LONG ISSUE WITH ROUNDABOUTS AND ONE THAT WE STILL WORK ON TODAY.

CONTINUING TO IMPROVE THIS ASPECT OF DESIGN AND IMPLEMENTATION.

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THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF CYCLISTS, THERE'S DIFFERENT NEEDS.

IT'S A STRUGGLE WITH ALL OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT CAN BE A CHALLENGE OR THROW NODES.

BUT WE HAVE DESIGN TECHNIQUES, WE HAVE DESIGN ELEMENTS AND DESIGN FEATURES THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT TO IMPROVE THIS AREA SUBSTANTIALLY AND MAKE IT COMFORTABLE FOR ALL MODES.

A LOT OF RESEARCH HAS GONE ON IN THE US OVER THE LAST, REALLY ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW, AND IT HAS CONCLUDED INTO SOME REPORTS AND IT'S STARTING TO GAIN A LOT OF TRACTION.

YOU SEE AN IMAGE HERE OF A RAISED CROSSING.

A LOT OF IT IS HOW YOU ADDRESS THE CROSSING AND THE DESIGN TO ENSURE SLOW VEHICLES SPEEDS AT THOSE CROSSINGS THROUGH GEOMETRIC ELEMENTS, BUT THEN ENHANCEMENTS LIKE RAISED CROSSINGS, THE MARKINGS, YOU CAN INCLUDE ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS SUCH AS PEDESTRIAN BEACONS AND RAPID FLASHING BEACONS TO FURTHER ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN COMFORT.

A LOT OF THESE DESIGN ELEMENTS ARE AIMED AT VISUAL AWARENESS.

CARS TO VEHICLES, VEHICLES TO PEDS, WAYFINDING, TRY TO MAKE IT AN INVITING ENVIRONMENT AND PROVIDE SAFETY AND COMFORT.

FROM A PEDESTRIAN PERSPECTIVE, [NOISE] THANK YOU.

THIS IS A ROUNDABOUT, THAT INTERSECTION THAT WAS CONVERTED TO A ROUNDABOUT FROM A SIGNAL.

IT JUST ILLUSTRATES A SINGLE-LANE ROUNDABOUT, THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING TO THE PEDESTRIAN REFUGE, DEALING WITH ONE DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC AT A TIME AND ONE STREAM OF TRAFFIC AT A TIME.

IT TOOK JUST UNDER 20 SECONDS TO CROSS.

PRE-ROUNDABOUT, THAT'S THE SAME INTERSECTION THAT THE PEDESTRIANS WAITING FOR THE SIGNAL PHASE TO CHANGE, AND THEY'RE WAITING ABOUT A MINUTE.

FROM A PEDESTRIAN LEVEL OF SERVICE AND DELAY, ROUNDABOUTS CAN HAVE SIGNIFICANT ADVANTAGES FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

AGAIN, COMPARING A SIGNAL TO A ROUNDABOUT, THIS IS A RELATIVELY SMALL SIGNAL WITH A LEFT AND A RIGHT AND A THROUGH LANE AND A SINGLE, BUT IT HAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 60 FEET OF CROSSING DISTANCE, WHICH IS MORE EXPOSURE.

WHEREAS A SINGLE-LANE ROUNDABOUT, IN THIS CASE, WILL HAVE SHORTER DISTANCES THAT YOU DO ONE DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC AT A TIME, WHICH HAS BEEN PROVEN OVER AND OVER WITH RESEARCH OVER THE DECADES, BOTH IN NORTH AMERICA AND ACROSS THE GLOBE, TO BE VERY SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS.

THESE ARE HIGH-VOLUME INTERSECTIONS.

THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS A ROUNDABOUT, AND IT'S ON MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY.

THAT HAS BEEN A FOOTBALL SATURDAY SO THERE'S LOTS OF PEDS PARKING AND WALKING TO THE STADIUM.

JUST GIVES YOU A FLAVOR OF HOW CARS AND PEDS INTERACT WITH ROUNDABOUTS VERSUS SIGNALS.

PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAYS HERE IS THE SPEEDS ALONG THAT SIGNALIZED ROADWAY ARE HIGH.

IF A PED IS HIT, IT'S TYPICALLY NOT A GOOD RESULT.

WITH SPEEDS BEING LOWER AT THE ROUNDABOUT, IT'S A MUCH BETTER SAFETY ENVIRONMENT FOR PEDESTRIANS.

EVENTUALLY, THAT PED MAKES THEIR WAY ACROSS, A LITTLE TOUGH TO TELL HERE, BUT THERE THEY GO TO MAKE IT ACROSS.

>> EXCUSE ME, I HAVE A QUESTION.

APPROXIMATELY WHAT SPEED ARE THOSE CARS GOING IN THE ROUNDABOUT INTERSECTION? BECAUSE IT SEEMS QUITE HIGH.

[BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE CARS ARE REALLY STOPPING FOR THE PEDESTRIAN.

>> I DON'T KNOW THE SPEEDS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

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I CAN ESTIMATE BASED ON LOOKING AT IT.

BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT USUALLY POPS OUT TO FOLKS IS THAT IT LOOKS AND FEELS UNCOMFORTABLE.

THIS MORNING WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, LOOK, THEY'RE PLAYING FROGGER, NO ONE IS STOPPING.

WE SPENT PROBABLY TWO HOURS TALKING ABOUT THIS MORNING.

BUT THIS VIDEO, IF WE LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND I'LL SHOW MAYBE ANOTHER VIDEO OR TWO, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE.

BUT THE REALITY IS BECAUSE THE CROSSING IS AT A CAR OR TWO BACK FROM A YELLOW LINE, THAT'S WHERE CARS ARE SLOWING AND THEY'RE GETTING SLOWER, WHAT WE FIND IN TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND TRAFFIC RESEARCH IS, WHEN CARS ARE GOING SLOW, THEY'RE MORE APT TO YIELD TWO PEDS.

IT BECOMES AN AREA WHERE IT'S EASY FOR A VEHICLE TO JUST YIELD TO THE PEDS AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DANCE THEREOF.

WELL, ARE THEY GOING TO STOP FOR ME? THERE IS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE SAFETY STATISTICS BEAR OUT THAT BECAUSE PEDESTRIANS ARE ALSO INTERACTING WITH THE DRIVERS, IT IS SAFER AS OPPOSED TO JUST RELYING ON A SIGNAL HERE TO TELL THEM TO CROSS.

THERE'S MORE ACTIVE DECISION-MAKING THERE ON BOTH FRONTS.

THE SPEEDS CIRCULATING THERE, I'M GOING TO ESTIMATE ARE 18 MILES PER HOUR.

THAT'S A GUESS BASED ON THE SIZE OF THAT ROUNDABOUT.

YOU'LL SEE A VIDEO SHORTLY OF A ROUNDABOUT THAT IS SMALLER.

CIRCULATING SPEEDS ARE LOWER.

AGAIN, WE DO STRIVE FOR SLOWER SPEEDS.

IT JUST ENHANCES EVERYTHING.

IT MAKES IT BETTER FOR EVERYONE.

IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION, IT'S ONE THAT COMES UP OFTEN.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. THIS HAS SOME DRONE FOOTAGE.

THIS IS A BUSY TWO-LANE ROUNDABOUT.

THIS IS A SHARED-USE PATHWAY AND THESE KIDS ARE GOING EITHER DOWNTOWN OR TO THE DRUGSTORE.

THESE ARE LIKE MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS.

WE CAN'T TELL FROM HERE.

IT'S A LITTLE TOUGH TO SEE, BUT THERE'S A KID ON THE HANDLEBAR, THERE'S ANOTHER KID ON A SKATEBOARD.

THEY'RE GOOFY KIDS.

I WAS ON THE GROUND WHEN THESE GUYS WERE COMING ACROSS AND WE WERE SHOOTING THIS FOOTAGE.

I PUT IT IN THERE. THESE ARE GOOFY KIDS.

IT'S A LITTLE LIKE AS A PARENT, AT WHAT AGE ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR KIDS GOING ON THEIR OWN IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND CROSSING BUSY ROADS? YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS AND SOME CARS DIDN'T YIELD.

WE'LL SPEAK TO SOME OF THE ISSUES ON HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THAT WITH ENHANCEMENTS, SIGNALIZATION, AND THAT KIND OF THING.

BUT IT JUST ILLUSTRATES HOW THAT PED CROSSING, THERE'S A LOT OF ENGINEERING SCIENCE THAT GOES INTO IT.

IT'S AT THE POINT WHERE CARS ARE SLOW ON APPROACH AND SLOWER EXITING AS WELL. IT'S EASIER.

AS WE CAN GET THOSE SPEEDS DOWN, DRIVERS ARE MORE APT TO YIELD TO PEDS, IT'S EASIER TO HAVE THAT INTERACTION, AND THEN IT'S MUCH SAFER AS WELL.

THIS A SMALLER ROUNDABOUT THAN THE ONE IN MICHIGAN, BUT VEHICLE SPEEDS ARE PROBABLY CLOSER TO 12, 15 MILES PER HOUR HERE.

THE SPEED DIFFERENTIAL WITH THE CYCLIST IS THE CYCLING GROUP THAT'S GOING OUT FOR AN AFTERNOON RIDE, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DIFFERENTIAL IS ABOUT THE SAME FOR THOSE CYCLISTS AND THE CARS THERE.

A PROJECT THAT IS IN SPRINGFIELD, OREGON.

IT'S A BUS RAPID TRANSIT STOP IN AN EXISTING MEDIAN THAT WAS PUT IN THERE USING RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASHING BEACONS ACROSS THE CROSSING.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE IMAGE HERE.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU. CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDES WHERE YOU WERE SHOWING THE CYCLISTS?

>> SURE, THIS ONE?

>> I'M CURIOUS, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR THEM AND THE VEHICLES.

IS THAT THE STANDARD DESIGN OR HAVE WE LATELY ADVANCED TO GIVING A MORE DEDICATED AREA FOR CYCLISTS THAT ARE SHARING THE ROAD WITH THE CAR?

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S THERE'S ACTUALLY A SHARED USED PATHWAY ON THIS.

IF WE'RE LOOKING NORTH, WHICH WE ARE, SO IT'D BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A 10-FOOT SHARED USE PATHWAY.

THIS CYCLIST GROUP IS SELECTED TO STAY ON THE ROAD.

I KNOW THIS AREA OF THE CITY, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A BIKE LANE ON THAT ROAD APPROACHING THIS ROUNDABOUT.

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OFTEN, THERE MIGHT BE A BIKE LANE. TYPICALLY THERE IS.

WE TYPICALLY DESIGNED FOR A CYCLIST TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OFF IN ADVANCE THE ROUNDABOUT AND THEN PROCEED AROUND ON A SHARED USE PATHWAY OR A CYCLE TRACK, THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES.

OR THEY CAN SELECT TO MERGE WITH TRAFFIC AND ACT AS A VEHICLE, THAT'S WHAT WE TEACH CYCLING AT ANY INTERSECTION TO SIGNALIZE.

THEN WE WANT THAT CYCLIST IN THAT CASE TO TAKE A LANE AS OPPOSED TO HOGGING A CAR.

BUT THESE GUYS ARE WELL, THEIR INNER LANE AND THEY'VE TAKEN THE LANE.

YES, WITH ADVANCEMENTS AND WITH CYCLE TRACK THAT ARE GOING ON ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ROUNDABOUTS ARE WELL SUITED TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THEM.

IT COMES DOWN TO A LITTLE BIT OF HOW WE DESIGN THE CROSSINGS AND THEN WHAT ARE WE CONNECTING TO ON THOSE CONNECTING ROADWAYS.

WE USE GEOMETRICS TO SLOW CARS DOWN, AND THEN WE HAVE ENHANCEMENTS AS WELL THAT CAN HELP THINGS ALSO.

IN SUMMARY, THE CYCLES TYPICALLY HAVE THE OPTION TO STAY ON THE ROAD.

LET'S SAY YOU'RE A HIGHER-LEVEL CYCLISTS, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B QUICKER, YOU MAY SELECT MORE CONFIDENT, OR YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO EXIT OFF ONTO A SHARED USE PATHWAY OR HIGHER CLASSIFICATION PATHWAY THAT'S DEDICATED TO PETS AND BIKES TYPE SITUATION.

>> BUT AS WE DESIGN ROUNDABOUTS, WE CAN IMPLEMENT A DEDICATED SPACE FOR THE CYCLISTS ON THE ROAD, OR THE EXPANDED PAD WALKWAY TO HAVE A STRIPED PAD SILVER HERE.

[OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE I SEE WHERE YOUR ARROW IS HERE, THAT CAR IS TRYING TO GET AROUND THE BICYCLIST, AND HE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING JUST TO STAY AT A GOOD DISTANCE.

THEN IF YOU TURN THAT ON, THEY'RE OUT IN THE MIDDLE THERE.

IT JUST SEEMS AT A HIGH-RISK DESIGN THAT WAY.

>> IT'S NOT A EXAMPLE IN THE SENSE THAT THIS ROADWAY HAS NO BIKE LANES ON IT.

BUT IT REALLY WAS JUST MEANT TO ILLUSTRATE THE ROUNDABOUTS SLOWEST CARS DOWN.

THAT SPEED DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE CARS AND CYCLISTS IN THIS CASE IS PRETTY CLOSE, WHICH MAKES IT MORE COMFORTABLE AS A CYCLIST.

THEN WHAT WE DO AND DESIGN, IS AS A CYCLIST APPROACHES THE ROUNDABOUT, WE GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO EXIT OFF, OR WE WANT THOSE CYCLISTS TO TAKE A LANE AND NOT HOG THE CURVE GOING THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT.

WE CAN USE CHERYL TO TRY ON THE PAVEMENT WHICH MAY HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT TO FURTHER EDUCATE BOTH DRIVERS AND CYCLISTS THAT WE WANT THEM IN A LANE.

>> WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR ME OKAY.

I'M SORRY, I'M A BIT UNDER THE WEATHER.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION SO FAR.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, A LOT OF THE EXAMPLES THAT HAVE BEEN SHOWN RIGHT NOW SEEM TO BASICALLY BE DROPPING PEDESTRIANS INTO VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND I KNOW THAT'S A VERY OVERSIMPLIFIED WAY OF PUTTING THAT.

BUT IS THERE ANY RESEARCH OR PRECEDENTS FOR ROUND ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS, AT ITS HEART, MORE PEDESTRIAN-CENTRIC THAT STARTS FROM THE PLACE OF PEDESTRIAN NEEDS ON THE CROSSINGS AND ROADWAYS?

>> I THINK THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES.

AT THE END OF THE DAY THOUGH, AT THE INTERSECTION AT THE ROUNDABOUT, WE DO HAVE CROSSINGS.

WE HAVE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AT THE ENTRIES AND EXITS.

THROUGH DESIGN AND PLANNING, YOU COULD MINIMIZE CROSSINGS THROUGH TUNNELS OR OVERPASSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IN THE CONTEXT OF PLANNING FROM A PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION PERSPECTIVE OR FROM A CYCLING INFRASTRUCTURE PERSPECTIVE, YES, YOU COULD START THERE AND THEN LOOK TO MERGE THE TWO TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT WORKS BEST FOR THE APPLICATION THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON.

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DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION A LITTLE BIT?

>> IT DOES, THANK YOU.

I'LL SAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT. THANKS.

>> CONTINUING NOW A LITTLE BIT WITH JUST PET AND BIKE DESIGN, AND THIS PERHAPS GETS A LITTLE BIT TO THE COUNSELORS QUESTION.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU CAN DO FROM A STANDARD FOUR-LANE ARTERIAL FROM THE '60S OR WHENEVER, AND THEY CONVERTED IT TO A ROUNDABOUT CORRIDOR.

THEY WENT FROM FOUR LANES TO A TWO-LANE ROAD, ADDED PARKING, ADDED PEDESTRIAN FACILITATION, ADDED BIKE LANES.

THE ROUNDABOUT HAPPENS TO BE PART OF THIS PLAN, PREDOMINANTLY BECAUSE WE CAN PROCESS VEHICLES EASIER, BETTER, IN THIS CASE, A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT VERSUS THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

THEY DO GO HAND IN HAND, AND REALLY IT'S ONE OF THE MANY REASONS WHY THE LIGHT BULB WENT OFF FOR ME WITH ROUNDABOUTS, AND THAT THIS IS A GOOD ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT WE CAN DO TO TRANSFORM OUR ROADWAYS INTO BEING MORE MULTI-MODAL AND BETTER FOR EVERYONE.

THIS IS THE PROJECT IN THE CITY OF NAPA, CALIFORNIA STATE ROUTE 29 THERE OFF TO THE LEFT.

THIS IS AN ENTRANCE INTO THEIR DOWNTOWN.

I DON'T HAVE THE PRI, WAS BASICALLY WHERE THOSE TWO ROUNDABOUTS WAS TWO SIGNALS WIDE, TYPICAL ROADS AND SO WE LOOKED AT PUTTING IT INTO ROUNDABOUTS HERE.

ACTUALLY TO THE COUNSELORS QUESTION SO IN THIS CASE, ACTUALLY THIS CONNECTS RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A REALLY NICE, WHAT THEY CALL CLASS 1 PATH THAT GOES AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THIS AND BECAUSE WE ONLY NEEDED REALLY THREE TRAVELING TO NORTH ONE SOUTH, WE COULD FIT THOSE IN, IN THE EXISTING RIGHT AWAY.

THERE WAS ACTUALLY A LOT OF EXCESS RIGHT AWAY TO WORK WITH IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

WE'RE ABLE TO PUT IN THIS NICE, THEY COULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENT THINGS, DIFFERENT CYCLE TRACK DESIGNS AS WELL.

THIS IS PROBABLY AT LEAST 15 YEARS OLD.

THE DESIGN CYCLE TRACK WAS JUST MAYBE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT WAS AROUND QUITE YET IN NORTH AMERICA.

WE HAVE THE ALL STREET, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE ON STREET.

I THINK YOU'LL SEE IN A MOMENT, SOME OF THE DESIGN TREATMENTS THAT WE DID FOR THIS PROJECT TO ENHANCE THAT.

THIS IS A VIDEO, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS IMAGE, IT'S A LITTLE TOUGH TO SEE, WE'RE A LITTLE FAR AWAY BUT YOU CAN SEE THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS ARE COLORIZED.

IF YOU LOOK UP ON THE NORTH THERE IS LITTLE TOUGH TO SEE.

I CAN'T SEE IT FROM HERE, BUT WE USE THE GREEN PAINTS.

IF SOMEONE IS COMING ON THE BIKE LANE SOUTHBOUND TOWARDS US, IT THEN SPLITS SO THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OFF ONTO THE SHARED USE PATHWAY IN THIS CLASS, THE CLASS 1 PATHWAY.

OR IF YOU'RE HIGHER LEVEL CYCLIST, YOU FEEL CONFIDENT, IT ALLOWS YOU TO THEN MERGE INTO TRAFFIC AND YOU'LL NOTICE A FEW SHADOWS HERE AND THERE TO ENCOURAGE CYCLISTS TO TAKE THE LANE AND ALSO TO INFORM DRIVERS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE CYCLISTS IN YOUR LANE.

OTHER THINGS BEFORE WE START THE VIDEO, BUT JUST FROM THE DESIGN SIDE, THE LANDSCAPING, THE LIGHTING, THE SIGNAGE, LOT OF REALLY NICE DESIGN DETAIL ON THIS PROJECT.

THAT REALLY HELPS. IT HELPS EVERYTHING WORK BETTER. IT'S ALL IMPORTANT.

THIS IS A MULTI-LINE PROJECTS, A GOOD AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THESE PROCESS.

THERE IS ONE PATH THAT CROSS TO THE NORTH SIDE, BUT IT REALLY IS AN EXAMPLE OF TRYING OFF.

IF WE LOOK AT THE SPEEDS OF CARS CIRCULATING ON THIS ROUND ABOUT, OUR GUIDANCE IS TO TRY TO KEEP CARS LESS THAN 20 AT THE PAD CROSSINGS.

WE DO THAT THROUGH A GEOMETRIC DESIGN.

THAT'S THE FIRST LEVEL OF DESIGN SAFETY AND THEN THERE'S THE ENHANCEMENTS ON TOP OF THAT.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BELT AND PULLEY TYPE OF APPROACH, A LAYERED APPROACH TO SAFETY AND COMFORT.

PROJECT IN LAFAYETTE, CALIFORNIA,

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I THINK THIS IS A VIDEO THAT SHOWS SOME HIGHER-LEVEL CYCLISTS, LOT OF CYCLISTS RIDING THROUGH HERE, AGAIN, STRIVING TO KEEP VEHICULAR SPEEDS LOW WHILE STILL MEETING OUR OPERATIONAL OBLIGATIONS AND OBJECTIVES, I SHOULD SAY.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE SHADOWS ON THIS ONE AS WELL.

YOU'LL NOTICE SOME NICE CROSSINGS.

THEY'RE NOT RAISED, BUT MORE TYPICAL LADDER STYLE PED CROSSING IN THIS CASE.

USE OF SOME GREEN PAINT AS WELL AS SOME JUST STANDARD PEDESTRIAN SIGNAGE.

I KNOW PEDS AND BIKES IS ONE OF THE BIG TOPICS.

I HAVE SOME OTHER TOPICS HERE.

IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ON PEDS, WE CAN TAKE MORE.

BUT I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE REST OF THESE IF THAT'S OKAY.

THIS IS A ONE ISSUE AND MAYBE IT'S NOT AN ISSUE HERE, BUT THIS APP IS TO BE A ROUNDABOUT AND WITH A FIRE STATION RIGHT OFF IT.

IT USED TO BE CONSTERNATION ABOUT EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES AND IN TORONTO IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY FOR THAT.

FEDERAL HIGHWAYS CAME OUT WITH A BROCHURE A FEW YEARS BACK.

THAT IS REALLY NICE.

IT SPEAKS TO A LOT OF THE TYPICAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU GET FOLKS HAVE AND CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

IT REALLY IS A NON-ISSUE, BUT IT CAN BE A CONCERN NOT JUST FROM THE MINISTRY RESPONSE FOLKS, BUT CITIZENS AS WELL AND THEY HAVE A NICE ON THEIR BROCHURE.

WILL TRUCKS GET THROUGH? WHAT ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES? IT SPEAKS TO ALL THOSE ISSUES.

IN SUMMARY, IT WORKS WELL FOR ALL THOSE NEEDS.

DESIGN VEHICLES.

THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT, A HORSE TRAILER, I WAS WORKING ON A PROJECT NUMBER OF YEARS AGO IN SCOTTSDALE AREA WHERE A LOT OF HORSES, HORSE FARMS AND EXPENSIVE HORSE TRAILERS AND EXPENSIVE HORSES AND LOTS OF CONCERN AND ACCOMMODATING THOSE AND FOR GOOD REASON AND SO DESIGN DETAILS ARE IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WERE WELL ACCOMMODATED AND THAT THEY DIDN'T GET BUMPED THROUGH A ROUNDABOUT AND THOSE THINGS.

THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS MORE OF A TYPICAL SEMI-TRUCK AND YOU CAN SEE THE TRUCK APRON ON THE INSIDE THERE AND SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE LOOK TO ACCOMMODATE TRUCKS AND MAYBE NOT SO IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY OF FLAGSTAFF.

HERE'S A A STATE HIGHWAY WITH LARGE AND MORE TRUCKS AND WE CAN DO OTHER THINGS WITH ACCOMMODATE AND TRUCKS WITH PAINTED GORE'S AND THOSE THINGS TO SEPARATE CARS AND TRUCKS.

BALANCING TRUCK NEEDS.

ONE OF THE DESIGN CHALLENGES IS JUST ACCOMMODATING THOSE LARGER DESIGN VEHICLES, BUT THEN MAINTAINING THAT COMPACT GEOMETRY FOR SLOW SPEEDS TO IMPROVE PED AND BIKE ENVIRONMENT.

I THINK THIS IS ROADWAY PLANNING OPPORTUNITIES, CONGESTION OCCURS PREDOMINANTLY AT OUR INTERSECTIONS AND THAT'S WHAT DRIVES OUR IMPROVEMENTS AND DRIVES A LOT OF WHAT WE DO.

SIGNAL EYES INTERSECTIONS IS WHAT DICTATES A LOT OF OUR PLANNING AND TRAFFIC AND ROADWAY PLANNING IS WHAT THE NEEDS OF SIGNALS ALONG THAT ROAD IS WHAT DICTATES.

ROUNDABOUTS ARE A GAME CHANGER.

WE CAN PROVIDE CAPACITY AT THE INTERSECTION WITH LESS ROADWAY WIDTHS.

WE HAVE MORE ROADWAY GEOMETRIC FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE WE KEEP THE SPEED SLOW.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ADD SPEED CONDITION WITH SIGNALS OR EXCUSE ME, WITH ROUNDABOUTS LIKE WE DO WITH SIGNALS.

ROUNDABOUTS CAN PROVIDE INTERSECTION SPACING VERSATILITY, THEN YOU CAN DO WITH SIGNALS AND DIFFERENT ACCESS CONTROL OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.

JUST A LITTLE IMAGE OF SHOWING THIS IS THE SAME COMMUNITY, JUST THE ROUNDABOUT ON THE RIGHT.

IT'S A TWO-LANE ROAD WITH A THREE-LANE ROAD, IF YOU WILL, A TWO-WAY LEFT TURN LANE IN THE MIDDLE WITH BIKE LANES, AND THEN SOUTH OF TOWN, THEY JUST WENT TO THE MORE CONVENTIONAL WIDENING OF A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY.

ROUNDABOUTS OFFER THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

IN THIS CASE, THIS LEADS INTO THEIR DOWNTOWN.

THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO FOUR-LANE THAT ROAD.

THIS IS A STATE HIGHWAY AND THE COMMUNITY WAS NOT PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN LOSING THEIR PARKING AND ALL THE ECONOMIC AND LIVABILITY ASPECTS OF THAT SO BY IMPLEMENTING THE ROUNDABOUT HERE WITH WHAT WE CALL A FLARED ENTRY, GOING FROM A SINGLE LANE APPROACH TO A TWO-LANE ENTRY, WE CAN PUT THE CAPACITY AT THE INTERSECTION, WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO WIDEN THE WHOLE ROADWAY.

COMING TO THE END HERE.

COUPLE OF QUICK PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.

THIS GOES WAY BACK.

[01:10:01]

THIS IS FROM VAIL, COLORADO.

THERE WAS A LOT OF CONSTERNATION WITH ROUNDABOUTS.

THEY BUILT IT AND IT WAS VOTED THE BEST PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT FIVE YEARS IN A ROW.

THEY HAD A COMMUNITY-WIDE SURVEY.

THIS IS A TYPICAL CARTOON OF MAKING FUN OF FOLKS WHO ARE DOING IT.

THEN THEY SAY, WELL, MAYBE IT'S NOT SO BAD AFTER ALL.

THIS IS FROM WISCONSIN.

I LIKED THIS BEING FROM WISCONSIN.

I FOUND THIS IN A LOCAL NEWSPAPER AND HE SAYS, AS A RESIDENT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 55 YEARS, EARL CADEM, WHO'S 82, FIGURES THE ROUNDABOUT WILL CONTROL TRAFFIC FLOW.

THEY'VE GOT IT MARKED WELL, AND THAT'LL HELP BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO SLOW DOWN.

SOME SAID CADEM, WHO TOOK A TURNAROUND THE INTERSECTION, TUESDAY, THIS IS THE BEST PART.

IN WISCONSIN, THIS IS AN ENDORSEMENT. I WENT AROUND IT.

IT'S NOT ANY WORSE THAN ANY OTHER STREET. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.

THIS IS A PROJECT IN WISCONSIN, LITTLE TOWN CALLED MOUNT HALL.

GUYS SEE, WE DON'T OFTEN GET SPECTATORS TO OPENING OF OUR INTERSECTIONS.

IT'S A SMALL COMMUNITY, ABOUT 5,000 BEDROOM COMMUNITY.

THAT'S THE VILLAGE ADMINISTRATORS, SOME OF HIS COLLEAGUES, GOT SOME POLICE AROUND.

GUY UP ON THE SCOOTER THERE USED TO SHOW UP DURING CONSTRUCTION AND TELL ME EVERY DAY THAT THERE'S NO WAY THIS IS GOING TO WORK KIND OF THING.

CHANGE IS HARD AND IT GOT PUT IN.

THEY LIKED IT SO MUCH, IT REALLY SOLVE THE CONGESTION PROBLEM THERE AND IMPROVE THE ACCESS FOR THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, THE FOLKS WALKING AROUND LIKED IT.

THE REASON FOR THIS IMAGE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS A POPULAR CONVENIENCE STORE IN WISCONSIN AND THEY EXPANDED WITH THE ACCESS THEY HAD.

IT'S A BUSY LITTLE SPOT, IT'S A BUSY LITTLE INTERSECTION OF ROUNDABOUT.

THEY LIKED THAT ONE SO MUCH AND IT'S SOLID, AND THEY PLANNED THIS NEW ROADWAY WITH FOUR MORE ROUNDABOUTS AND THE RAILROADS ALLOWED THEM TO REDUCE THEIR CROSS-SECTION AS THEY BUILT THAT OUT.

I THINK THIS IS THE LAST ONE.

THIS IS THE MONTERREY PENINSULA IN CALIFORNIA.

ENTRANCE TO PEBBLE BEACH OFF STATE ROUTE 1.

AGE-OLD PROBLEMS, SIGNIFICANT CONGESTION.

THERE'S CONGESTION EVERYWHERE OFTEN IN CALIFORNIA, BUT THE TRADITIONAL FOUR-LANE WIDENING WITH SIGNALS WAS BASICALLY JUST ON THE SHELF FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES.

IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO BUILD IT DUE TO THE IMPACTS AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

LOCAL ENGINEER NAMED MITCH DILL, NOT THAT IT MATTERS, HAD THE IDEA THAT MAYBE ROUNDABOUTS WOULD BE A SOLUTION HERE.

AGAIN, ALIGNED TO SOLVE THE CONGESTION OF THE INTERSECTION WITHOUT HAVING TO WIDEN THE ROADWAY.

THE ROADWAY IT WAS ABOUT $15 MILLION, LESS THAN THE TRADITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, AND THERE'S A LOOK AT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

LOCAL MONTEREY NEWSPAPER NAMED IT THE BEST USE OF GOVERNMENT FUNDS 2017.

IT WAS A BIG SUCCESS FOR THAT COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN LISTEN TO THE MAYOR AND WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT IT IN THAT VIDEO, AND THAT'S THE END.

>> THANK YOU.

>> OF THE SLIDES.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SWEET HAS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I'M A NEW BICYCLIST WHO IS FAIRLY COMFORTABLE AND I JUST DID A ROUNDABOUT HERE IN TOWN THAT'S PRETTY BUSY, AND I OPTED TO TAKE THE LANE.

THERE WAS NO SEPARATED BIKE LANE IN THE ROUNDABOUT AND AT THAT MOMENT, I WAS WISHING THAT THERE WAS.

IN YOUR PRESENTATION, I'M NOT REALLY SEEING A LOT OF SEPARATED BIKE LANES IN THE ROUNDABOUT, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?

>> YES, I SURE CAN.

OVER THE DECADES IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, THEY'VE TRIED BIKE LANES IN THE ROUNDABOUT, WHICH WOULD INVOLVE YOU STAYING NEXT TO THE CURB ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE ROUNDABOUT.

WHAT THEY FOUND WAS, THAT WAS MUCH LESS SAFE FOR CYCLISTS THAN WHAT WE DO, WHICH IS A LITTLE COUNTER-INTUITIVE.

AS YOU APPROACH THAT ROUNDABOUT, WE WANT YOU TO GET CLOSE TO THE ROUNDABOUT, SO THAT VEHICLE'S SPEED ARE STARTING TO SLOW DOWN.

SO THAT YOU EITHER EXIT ONTO A OFF-STREET FACILITY AND GO AROUND THE ROUNDABOUT AND THEN COME BACK ONTO THE STREET OR ONTO THE CONTINUATION OF THAT CYCLE OR YOU'RE GOING TO MERGE AND TAKE A LANE AS A CYCLIST.

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WE WANT YOU CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION, TO THE ROUNDABOUT.

CARS ARE COMING SO THAT YOU CAN MERGE WHEN SPEEDS ARE CLOSER TO ONE ANOTHER AND THEN TAKE A LANE.

IF YOU HAD A SIGNAL, YOU'RE MAKING A LEFT, IF YOU'RE GOING THROUGH IT, A SIGNAL, YOU GET A LANE, YOU GET A LANE AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND THAT'S GOOD, BUT IF YOU'RE MAKING A LEFT, UNLESS YOU'RE DOING BIKE BOXES AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS WHICH ARE STARTING TO COME ON, WE'RE TRAINED TO TAKE A LANE AND GET OUT THERE AND TAKE THAT LANE, GET THROUGH THE INTERSECTION AND THAT'S THE SAME APPROACH WE DO IN ROUNDABOUTS.

IT'S A LITTLE COUNTER-INTUITIVE THAT YOU WANT A FACILITY, BUT THE RESEARCH DOESN'T SUPPORT THAT. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

>> THANK YOU. WHEN I DID DO IT, I WAS NERVOUS, BUT IT WAS JUST NATURAL FOR ME TO TAKE THE LANE, AND WHEN I WAS DONE DOING IT, I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, THAT WASN'T SO BAD. THANK YOU

>> GOOD. DESIGN DOES MATTER.

HOW FAST OUR CAR IS GOING IN THAT ROUNDABOUT.

YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES AT DIFFERENT ROUNDABOUTS AND HOW MANY CARS ARE THERE AT THE ROUNDABOUT AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, AND HOW ARE YOU FEELING THAT DAY? WHEN I USED TO COMMUTE IN THE MORNING, I WAS FRESH, AND THEN GOING HOME, I'M LIKE, I WANT TO GO ON THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH ANYTHING.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY.

>> THANK YOU. INTERESTING PRESENTATION.

ONE THING I'VE NOTICED ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE TWO-LANE ROUNDABOUTS, ONE-LANE ROUNDABOUTS, THOSE ARE NO-BRAINERS, BUT THE TWO-LANERS, SOMETIMES THE SIGNS ARE VERY CONFUSING WHEN YOU CYCLE.

WHERE I'M SUPPOSED TO GO, IF I WANT TO MAKE A 90-DEGREE, SHOULD I BE IN THIS LANE OR THIS LANE? MAYBE WE CAN WORK ON SIGNAGE.

THE OTHER THING I MIGHT NOTICE, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'RE PUTTING AROUND ABOUT IN ON 4TH STREET AND WHAT WE DID IS WE JOGGED THE PEDESTRIAN GO ACROSS.

WHEN YOU GO ACROSS TWO LANES AND THEN YOU GO TO THE LITTLE SAFETY ISLAND, YOU DON'T GO STRAIGHT ACROSS.

YOU HAVE TO MOVE TO THE LEFT, TO THE RIGHT, MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE FEET.

OUR IDEA WITH THAT WAS IS THAT, MY KIDS WON'T RUN ACROSS, SO I'D BE FORCED TO REEVALUATE THE OTHER TWO LANES BEFORE THEY MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT WELL, THESE TWO LANES ARE SAFE, SO THE OTHER ONES ARE SAFE.

NO, IT'S TWO SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS OR A DECISION POINT.

>> YES. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, AND THAT'S A DESIGN ELEMENT, SOMETHING THAT I RECOMMEND IN ALMOST ALL MY PROJECTS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THAT PROJECT, I HELPED WORK WITH CITY STAFF ON THAT PROJECT AS A SUB-CONSULTANT TO THE PRIME FIRM.

THAT IS ONE ELEMENT OF DESIGN THAT FACILITATES A BETTER ENVIRONMENT FOR PEDS.

TO THE SIGNING ISSUE, TOMORROW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND PROBABLY AN HOUR-AND-A-HALF TALKING ABOUT THOSE ISSUES.

IT'S AN ISSUE NEAR AND DEAR TO WHAT I DO IN MY PRACTICE AND IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

IT'S EASY TO OVER-SIGN AND NOT MAKE IT INTUITIVE FOR DRIVERS AND IT JUST A CHAOTIC MESS.

TRYING TO FIND THAT SWEET SPOT TO THE RIGHT SIGNAGE, TO THE RIGHT PLACEMENT, NOT TOO MUCH, NOT TOO LITTLE.

I THINK I HAVE GOOD FEELINGS ABOUT YOUR STAFF IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTING SOME GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT.

>> VICE MAYOR HAS A COMMENT.

>> HI THERE. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOUR EXPERTISE IN THE ROOM WITH US AS WE CONSIDER ROUNDABOUTS IN GENERAL FOR FLAGSTAFF.

>> MY PLEASURE.

>> JUST A QUICK COMMENT, REALLY, I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A QUESTION.

I DO BELIEVE THAT SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT.

SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS IS PARAMOUNT.

WE ARE WORKING ON A BIG SHIFT WHERE WE'RE RIGHT-SIZING OUR ROADS AND WE ARE ENCOURAGING MODES OF TRANSPORTATION THAT DON'T NEED TO INVOLVE CARS.

WE'RE NOT IGNORING CARS.

CARS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE A PART OF THE FLAGSTAFF LANDSCAPE.

IT'S MOUNTAINOUS HERE.

WE HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT AGES OF FOLKS IN TOWN WITH DIFFERENT ABILITIES, WE HAVE FOUR SEASONS.

I MYSELF DON'T GET TO RIDE MY BIKE VERY MUCH.

I LIVE OUT IN PONDEROSA TRAILS.

I HAVE TWO KIDS THAT NEED TO BE SCHLEPPED EVERYWHERE, AND WE ONLY HAVE A LIMITED TIME BETWEEN THEIR ACTIVITIES TO GET THEM FROM PLACE TO PLACE.

>> UNDERSTAND.

>> SO CARS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT.

WE DO NEED TO FIND WAYS TO GET CARS FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY.

ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT-SIZING OUR ROADS AND OTHER WAYS.

WHILE I THINK THAT OBVIOUSLY PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLIST SAFETY NEEDS TO COME FIRST,

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I ALSO PRESUME THAT THOSE CALCULATIONS ARE BEING MADE BY OUR ENGINEERS AND OUR PLANNERS, THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING AS WELL.

I'M A BIG FAN OF ROUNDABOUTS.

I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, LONG BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL, I WAS WONDERING WHY THERE WEREN'T AS MANY ROUNDABOUTS AS FLAGSTAFF AS THERE WERE IN OTHER PARTS OF NORTHERN ARIZONA, SAY LIKE CINAHL VALLEY AND PRESS KIT AND SEDONA.

I REALLY WANTED TO SEE MORE ROUNDABOUTS IN TOWN AND I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS CONVERSATION MOVING IN THE DIRECTION IT IS.

I JUST THINK IT'S A GREAT SOLUTION.

I DO HEAR YOU WHEN YOU SAY THAT THIS TENDS TO BE A SAFER OPTION, ESPECIALLY FOR PEDESTRIANS.

I REALLY LIKED THE ILLUSTRATION YOU MADE ABOUT THE NOTION THAT BOTH PARTIES ARE MORE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN DECISION-MAKING, SO THERE'S A SLOWER DANCE THAT'S GOING ON THERE AS PEDESTRIANS ARE FILTERING THROUGH SLOW-MOVING TRAFFIC.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT AND IT'S A NICE WAY TO CALIBRATE OUR MINDS.

YOU GOT DRIVERS MORE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR AND AT PEDESTRIANS WHO ARE RUNNING BY.

YOU HAVE PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS AND KIDS AND OUR MIDDLE-SCHOOL YOUTH AND OUR GRADE SCHOOL YOUTH WHO ARE REALLY ACTIVELY MAKING A DECISION WHEN TO CROSS THE STREET AND NOT JUST RELYING ON SOME SYMBOL BAR OFF TO SWITCH BEFORE THEY GO DARTING OUT.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT MAKES LOT OF SENSE.

IT FEELS VERY NATURAL TO ME.

IT FEELS VERY SYNERGISTIC.

FOR MY PART, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CAUSE FOR US TO EVALUATE THESE THINGS SITUATIONALLY AND IN THE INDIVIDUAL CONTEXT OF EACH SCENARIO, IN EACH INTERSECTION.

BUT I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF ROUNDABOUTS WHEREVER THEY MAKE SENSE AND WHEREVER THEY PROVIDE GREATER SAFETY AND WILL BE FIERCE PROPONENT FOR THEIR USE IN TOWN AS A WAY TO GET ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION AND ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION USERS THROUGHOUT TOWN.

>> WE'RE READY TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I BELIEVE WE ONLY HAVE ONE COMMENTER. ADAMSHEMONY.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, SEE LEADERSHIPS AND STAFF, OUR GUEST MARK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF JOINING STAFF TODAY FOR THE WORK SESSION SINCE EIGHT IN THE MORNING AND LEARNED ALL THINGS ROUNDABOUT AND GET INTO SOME HEATED DISCUSSION ABOUT SAFETY IN PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENT, AS YOU SAW IN THOSE VIDEOS, CARS DON'T STOP FOR PEDESTRIANS.

THEY DON'T, MUST TAKE POSSESSIONS ALREADY IN THE LANE, IS WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE.

BUT YEAH, THROUGH DISCUSSIONS, I THINK I AM COMING TO REALIZE THERE IS VALUE IN THESE ROUNDABOUTS.

IT DOES ULTIMATELY SLOW CARS DOWN AND IT DOES PREVENT RED LIGHT CROSSINGS AT 40, 50 MILES AN HOUR WHERE YOU'RE GUARANTEED A FATALITY OR NEARLY GUARANTEED.

I THINK AS MARK IS SPEAKING TO US ABOUT IF IT'S DONE PROPERLY, THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT RIGHT AND IN A WAY TO DO IT SAFELY.

BUT AS YOU ADD MORE LANES, IT GETS MORE COMPLICATED AND IT BECOMES MORE DANGEROUS.

I REALLY JUST WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE JEFF FROM ENGINEERING AND FROM TRAFFIC AND THE TEAM FOR INVITING ME IN AND LETTING ME SIT IN TODAY.

BUT I'M FEELING MORE HOPEFUL AS THE DAY PROGRESSES AND ESPECIALLY LOOKING FORWARD.

THAT BEING SAID, I STILL HAVE LOTS OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE SAFETY AND COMFORT FOR WALKERS AND BIKERS AND WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE REALLY ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO WALK AND BIKE WITH THESE DESIGNS.

I'VE WATCHED A NUMBER OF THESE VIDEOS OF PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS' MOVEMENT THROUGH THESE ROUNDABOUTS, AND IT IS SKETCHY.

IT DOES NOT SEEM VERY CLEAR.

I MEAN, YOU SAW THOSE KIDS DODGING AND DEBATING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT CAR WAS GOING TO STOP.

IF THERE'S TWO LANES I MEAN, THERE'S TWO LANES OF THAT.

BUT THERE ARE MITIGATION STRATEGIES I THINK CAN HELP.

YEAH, I WAS SAYING EARLIER DURING OUR RETREAT OR OUR WORK SESSION

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THAT IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE PLAYING FROG OR IN HUMAN SIZE WITH YOUR LIFE THOUGH.

THE NICE THING THOUGH IS I GUESS THE CARS ARE MOVING SLOWER, SO IT DOES GIVE THEM THE CHANCE TO STOP.

BUT ARE THEY LOOKING? ARE THEY DISTRACTED? ARE THEY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIGNAGE IN WHAT LANE TO BE IN? ARE THEY SIX FEET OFF THE GROUND AND A NEW TRUCK THAT'S REALLY TALL AND THEY DON'T EVEN SEE THE CHILD OR THE ELDERLY OR THE INDIVIDUAL WITH THE DISABILITY? THESE ARE ALL CONCERNS I HAVE.

WE DID SPEAK A LOT ABOUT HOCKS AND BEACONS AND HOW TO IMPLEMENT THOSE INTO THE DESIGNS.

THAT DOES GIVE ME HOPE THAT IF WE CAN STOP CARS WITH GOOD SIGNALIZED, STOPPING MECHANISMS, I DO ULTIMATELY SEE VALUE IN THIS AND SEEING THAT MY TIME IS STARTING TO RUN OUT, I THINK THE ONE REALLY BIG TAKEAWAY FOR ME THAT I LEARNED FROM MARK IS THAT BASICALLY ROUNDABOUTS CAN ALLOW YOU TO BUILD A SMALL DESIGN.

I'M BASICALLY OUT OF TIME, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, ADAM. WE HAVE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND STAFF.

THANKS FOR HAVING THIS TWO-DAY WORKSHOP ON ROUNDABOUTS.

>> THANK YOU.

WE ARE MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 8,

[8. City of Flagstaff Advertising Policy Discuss with the Mayor, Vice Mayor and Councilmembers the revisions we are making to our advertising standards to form a facility-wide policy that acts as a guideline for businesses, groups, events, and more when advertising with the City of Flagstaff (COF). ]

CITY OF FLAGSTAFF ADVERTISING POLICY.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF.

>> MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, HEIDI HANSEN, ECONOMIC VITALITY DIRECTOR, HERE THIS AFTERNOON WITH SEVERAL OTHERS THAT HAVE GOTTEN TOGETHER TO LOOK AT OUR ADVERTISING STANDARDS FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

I HAVE OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, KEVIN FINCEL WITH US.

I HAVE CLAIRE HARPER OUR AIRPORT COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER, BRIAN GALL OUR AIRPORT DIRECTOR.

I HAVE REBECCA SAYERS, OUR PROS DIRECTOR AND AMY HAGEN OUR ASSISTANT PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

ALL OF US HAVE WORKED ON THIS TOGETHER AND I WILL BE CONTINUING TO GO THROUGH SLIDE BY SLIDE AND YOU'LL HAVE DISCUSSION.

FOR OUR DISCUSSION THIS AFTERNOON, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME COUNCIL IS SEEING THE PROPOSED DRAFT POLICY.

THE CURRENT DRAFT IS A COLLECTION OF IDEAS THAT WERE CREATED BY THE STAFF FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

ANYTHING CAN BE CHANGED AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IT ONLY APPLIES TO ADVERTISING IN CITY FACILITIES, NAMELY THE FLAGSTAFF, PULLIAM AIRPORT, AND OUR RECREATION FACILITIES.

BASICALLY, A POLICY OF THIS TYPE IS TO HELP ENSURE THAT ALL FACILITIES ARE RUNNING OUR PROGRAMS SIMILAR AS WE CAN.

THERE WILL BE SOME SLIGHT ALTERATIONS THAT I WILL SHOW YOU AS I MOVE ALONG IN THE PRESENTATION THOUGH.